[IC] Keeblast TKL [Updated-Discord channel]

[MIGHTY CHICKEN]

Love the colors and knob

[Toriaki]

Love the colors and knob

Thank you very much! <3

[marthike135]

have you got a discord or insta I can follow?

[Toriaki]

have you got a discord or insta I can follow?

Not yet, but very soon

[Jolt]

Remove the unsightly keebblast logo and I am sold

I would love this project if it there was an option to not had the logo on the bottom.

[-Jerry-]

How much would you anticipate this to weigh?

According to the CAD software, about 3kg (or around 6.6lbs), which is not light at all, but we thing it'll pay off.

I’m curious about how accurate this.

My KBD8X MKII is 3kg fully built, with the brass weight only comprising maybe 30% of the base. I’d expect a keyboard of similar dimensions with a solid brass bottom to be significantly heavier.

[Ustinj]

How much would you anticipate this to weigh?

According to the CAD software, about 3kg (or around 6.6lbs), which is not light at all, but we thing it'll pay off.

I’m curious about how accurate this.

My KBD8X MKII is 3kg fully built, with the brass weight only comprising maybe 30% of the base. I’d expect a keyboard of similar dimensions with a solid brass bottom to be significantly heavier.

6.6lbs / 3kg is very heavy. I have a prototype of a TKL I've made that was estimated to be around that weight, and in reality the estimate is quite accurate. 3kg is VERY HEAVY for an unbuilt TKL, I'm surprised your 8X weighs that much!!

[-Jerry-]

How much would you anticipate this to weigh?

According to the CAD software, about 3kg (or around 6.6lbs), which is not light at all, but we thing it'll pay off.

I’m curious about how accurate this.

My KBD8X MKII is 3kg fully built, with the brass weight only comprising maybe 30% of the base. I’d expect a keyboard of similar dimensions with a solid brass bottom to be significantly heavier.

6.6lbs / 3kg is very heavy. I have a prototype of a TKL I've made that was estimated to be around that weight, and in reality the estimate is quite accurate. 3kg is VERY HEAVY for an unbuilt TKL, I'm surprised your 8X weighs that much!!

I said built, not unbuilt.

I rounded up a little to be fair, total weight with a set of GMK caps is 2767g / 6.1lbs. My point though was that the brass weight represents 1229g / 2.1lbs of that weight while being about 30% (probably a little less) of the bottom half of the case.

Provided that the aluminium top half is equal in weight, I’d expect a TKL with a completely brass bottom, unless it’s very thin brass, to be more in the 4kg - 5kg range.

[Toriaki]

How much would you anticipate this to weigh?

According to the CAD software, about 3kg (or around 6.6lbs), which is not light at all, but we thing it'll pay off.

I’m curious about how accurate this.

My KBD8X MKII is 3kg fully built, with the brass weight only comprising maybe 30% of the base. I’d expect a keyboard of similar dimensions with a solid brass bottom to be significantly heavier.

We're talking about the unbilt keyboard, only taking in consideration the case, the plate and the pcb.

[Toriaki]

How much would you anticipate this to weigh?

According to the CAD software, about 3kg (or around 6.6lbs), which is not light at all, but we thing it'll pay off.

I’m curious about how accurate this.

My KBD8X MKII is 3kg fully built, with the brass weight only comprising maybe 30% of the base. I’d expect a keyboard of similar dimensions with a solid brass bottom to be significantly heavier.

6.6lbs / 3kg is very heavy. I have a prototype of a TKL I've made that was estimated to be around that weight, and in reality the estimate is quite accurate. 3kg is VERY HEAVY for an unbuilt TKL, I'm surprised your 8X weighs that much!!

There's also some other tkl's that weigh the same, unbuilt. We can try and make it lighter but is there really a point in that?

[-Jerry-]

We're talking about the unbilt keyboard, only taking in consideration the case, the plate and the pcb.

I get that, though keycaps and switches only had a few hundred grabs, in my experience.

I guess what I’m saying is, I’m curious how thick the brass is planned to be if the case only weighs 3kg?

[-Jerry-]

6.6lbs / 3kg is very heavy. I have a prototype of a TKL I've made that was estimated to be around that weight, and in reality the estimate is quite accurate. 3kg is VERY HEAVY for an unbuilt TKL, I'm surprised your 8X weighs that much!!

There's also some other tkl's that weigh the same, unbuilt. We can try and make it lighter but is there really a point in that?
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I don’t think either of us are suggesting it be lighter, nothing wrong with it being heavy, I just think you’re lowballing the weight, hehe

[e_v_o8]

Pretty dope, can't wait for the proto build

[Toriaki]

Pretty dope, can't wait for the proto build

Thank you <3

[Toriaki]

6.6lbs / 3kg is very heavy. I have a prototype of a TKL I've made that was estimated to be around that weight, and in reality the estimate is quite accurate. 3kg is VERY HEAVY for an unbuilt TKL, I'm surprised your 8X weighs that much!!

There's also some other tkl's that weigh the same, unbuilt. We can try and make it lighter but is there really a point in that?

I don’t think either of us are suggesting it be lighter, nothing wrong with it being heavy, I just think you’re lowballing the weight, hehe
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Just working with the cad weights so far, we can't really be sure it'll only be those 3kg, but we'll get back to you with more information.

[Jacki]

I really like this but i'm not liking the back weight, too much empty space with that little logo in the middle, i would prefer some more interesting engraving art on the back weight.

[Toriaki]

I really like this but i'm not liking the back weight, too much empty space with that little logo in the middle, i would prefer some more interesting engraving art on the back weight.

That's some great idea!
Thank you for your feedback!

[dlgusgh]

I love how the board is shaping up! I really like how you have taken advantage of the top right of the board (since I don't even use those keys most of the time on my tkls)

One point that has come up a lot is the bottom render of the board. I think that, not only should there be more renders of the bottom, but maybe a better design of the logo to make the board stand out more would also be nice. Furthermore, if you were to make the whole bottom out of brass (which I think seems to be the common weight material nowadays), it would be incredibly heavy (I dig it, but could also drive the price incredibly high). as such, a separated weight might also be a good option.

This is more of a personal taste, but I have found that I tend to like slightly deeper colors (ie. more wine than red, deep navy than sapphire blue and so on).
I also tend to like centered usb ports more than left or right sided ones.

I love how things are right now! Can't wait for your next iteration!

[FaIIen]

Bok Choy, I'm done

[oathsworn]

Just saw this again but is it winkeyless or the window key is an option? Def would go for this since Idk if I read last time but it's hotswap which is what I was looking for!

[$W4GK!NG]

Unless you redesign the mounting point for the plate, I don't think this is going to flex much, you should look into how leaf-spring work, but if you're not going to, just go with top mount for your first design, it's hard to do gasket mount as your first board and not f*ck it up lol and also good top mount > bad gasket mount.

And am I the only few people that use the 3 top right keys for media keys? I mapped the key to [Previous] [Pause/Play] [Next] lol, not sad to see it go tho, I'm going to wait for the more fleshed-out render and plate design until I say anything more about the board.

Also, just my opinion but the logo on the brass is looking a little childish(?), personally, I would love to see a more minimalist design to go with a pure brass weight.



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[oathsworn]

Oh yeah so far something like this would you need to remap the print screen button to something then?

[$W4GK!NG]

Oh yeah so far something like this would you need to remap the print screen button to something then?

Personally I don't use window's printscreen function, I use an open source program called ShareX, try it out, it's pretty good ))

[Vidhur100]

Oh yeah so far something like this would you need to remap the print screen button to something then?

Personally I don't use window's printscreen function, I use an open source program called ShareX, try it out, it's pretty good ))

I am so glad I saw this. I just downloaded the application and screen shots are sooo much easier now! Thanks!


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[Pauzzz]

I love the back plate. If I got one I'd polish it to mirror shine and clear coat it. That shine with the blue OOF

[oathsworn]

Also do you have any plans to make a discord for updates to this board? This thing just fits everything I need in a perfect board right now that I've been waiting awhile for on a TKL.

[Extra Fox]

Interesting, I dig it on a lot of levels. I do hope the Proto turns out well.

[FamilyJoule924]

i don't like the logo on the bottom.

[DeMechanica]

I think it is best to go back to the drawing board with this and come back with a more flushed out idea.
For starters, just after looking at your renders you don't seem to have actually implemented any screws into the design. As a big FYI here, you need screws to put the board together, unless you're thinking of magnets, which won't be able to hold that massive bottom together with the case top.
(Also haven't seen a USB port in any of the renders - but I am going to give the benefit of the doubt in that it is somewhere on the rear of the case top that we just can't see from the render angles provided)

For the flex cut in your plate, I would suggest moving the top most cut above row 3 rather than keeping it below, as not doing so can result in pretty inconsistent flex - this isn't me just talking out of my ass, but out of experience testing flex cut positioning on a range of formfactors.

In regards to your estimated pricing, I implore you to just delete that section right now. You evidently have no clue how much these units will cost as you put a mere 40 euro price difference between a brass bottom vs alu bottom board, in which just by looking at the design, that would be massive f*cking piece of brass. Estimated prices are generally better once you have a good idea as to what your board would cost to machine plus hardware/packaging/PCBs/etc.

There are a few things that I personally am not fond of with this design, but that is not my place to say.

Please take this back to the drawing board and spend some more time on this project to push it in the right direction.
GLWIC

Good feedback! But aren’t you perfectly placed to share your personal preferences w/ respect to the design?

Personally, I think it looks awesome! Except for the logo, which to me doesn’t fit the premium design of the keyboard.

[zoo]

i’m a simple man, i see OLED, i hit like

[itsVayne]

Really interested in this keyboard, was wondering if there will be a discord!

[vi0till]

Please consider centered usb C using daughterboard. Thanks

[Ustinj]

How much would you anticipate this to weigh?

According to the CAD software, about 3kg (or around 6.6lbs), which is not light at all, but we thing it'll pay off.

I’m curious about how accurate this.

My KBD8X MKII is 3kg fully built, with the brass weight only comprising maybe 30% of the base. I’d expect a keyboard of similar dimensions with a solid brass bottom to be significantly heavier.

6.6lbs / 3kg is very heavy. I have a prototype of a TKL I've made that was estimated to be around that weight, and in reality the estimate is quite accurate. 3kg is VERY HEAVY for an unbuilt TKL, I'm surprised your 8X weighs that much!!

I said built, not unbuilt.

I rounded up a little to be fair, total weight with a set of GMK caps is 2767g / 6.1lbs. My point though was that the brass weight represents 1229g / 2.1lbs of that weight while being about 30% (probably a little less) of the bottom half of the case.

Provided that the aluminium top half is equal in weight, I’d expect a TKL with a completely brass bottom, unless it’s very thin brass, to be more in the 4kg - 5kg range.

sry did not see the response to this. i am still surprised that your 8x weighs that much built haha. but the point i was trying to make is that the weight estimates I have in my CAD software are pretty decent, they calculate the weight based on volume and material and the actual result wasn't too far off.

[Jacki]

I really like this.
I'm not a fan of the back weight design, would appreciate some more engravings

[InvXXVII]

This looks like something that would be quite close to my endgame keyboard (we all know that "endgame" is a lie in this hobby, so let's just say it would be my daily driver). My only gripe is the empty space between arrow keys and the six-key cluster above it; to me, that empty space just stands out. I'll readily admit to not knowing anything about designing PCBs and plates and this following idea is probably going to drive up the price immensely, but if I had unlimited cash, I would try to push the six keys upwards and fit three more keys below it (I'd program the nine keys into a numpad) or add a button or light. But again, I'm fantasizing. At the very least, if (or rather when) I purchase the keyboard as is, I would glue on a metal badge (or even just a metal horizontal bar) to fill up the negative space below the six-key cluster.

[GingGing]

Great variety of colors!

[pixelkris]

I'm really looking forward to this. Definitely looking at CF plate option too if possible!

[Twengkie]

Cf or pc plate options please


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[BuyMeNoodles]

Cf or pc plate options please


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Yes

[shawnlyx]

Any update on this?

[nguyenhoantuan]

when it group buy?? I'm very exciting

[Kewin]

Any update on this?

[sirpeebs]

I was thinking it seemed under weighted with the entire base being brass as well - and I think we're saying we were hoping it's be in the 4-5kg range NOT lighter, please not lighter. I have a kbd8x as well and comes in right at 6.2 built and I'm not into anything lighter in a TKL after feeling that heft. Just no substitute, girthy for life (g4l).

[Rektygon]

this looks very poggers

[sGhost]

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kinda sus

Very sus

[JustMilica]

Definitely interested in this! I'd love for there to be an option for a polycarbonate or carbon fiber plate and also plate foam

[eljudio42]

discord link is dead. would like to join for more real time updates

[Bl4ck]

discord link is dead. would like to join for more real time updates

https://discord.gg/sGKJY5aZvM

This should be a permanent link.

[derpturtle]

looks to me like the design could use a bit more polishing, but the knob+oled location is pretty dece. something to keep in mind though, it looks like your plate uses a regular mx 14x14mm cutout for the encoder. assuming you will be using an alps ec11, this will work fine for the most part but you will be unable to remove the encoder from the pcb without desoldering the whole board and taking off the plate because of interference with the encoder's pins. its just a minor quality of life thing that probably wont affect most, but its a small enough change to make.

all in all though, im very interested to see where you take this board. glwic my guy.

[jul1236]

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