comptekw2k's latest

[MissileMike]

Here it is

Let's see how high it goes.  I am thinking about bidding 200 right off the bat

[jpc]

Here it is

Irony:

Our trolls profess their love for old Windows versions.

Meanwhile, the world's only reliable provider of mint condition Model M space saving keyboards has what appears to be a windows 2000 reference in his ebay username.

Dear comptek, we love you and we need you to change...

[MissileMike]

Not even 24 hours and it's already up to 177$

This one may hit 300$

[MissileMike]

Minis, I am on a quest for minis.

The current high bidder has purchased at least two from comptek already, and appears to be some kind of typewriter collector with an unlimited budget.  Not easy to bid against!

[kriminal]

Good Luck with acquiring that NIB IBM ssk, i got my blue label and black label mini used...
might tackle a NIB mini after a get a topre keyboard

[Zen]

Hehe ..
I made a bid, 175$, just to teach the opportunists a lesson.
Anyone making a bid less than 150$ is insulting the seller IMO..

[zefrer]

It's ebay. The bots don't bid until the last minute

[MissileMike]

Comptek starts the bidding and lets the buyer set the price.  He(she) isn't insulting anyone.

[didjamatic]

Now I'm afraid to bid because I will definitely be insulting someone no matter what.

[J888www]

Seems someone with the user jacobsenjw is buying all comptekw2k NIBs, ATM he's the highest bidder a***b(2768) at $203.50 with just under 6 days to the end.

[MissileMike]

Yes, that guy.... He buys tons of typewriter stuff too, lots of model m keyboards, and seems to have an unlimited budget.

[Zen]

Kishy, I tend to agree with you that some sort of scam is happening right before our eyes..
On the other hand, being located in Denmark, Europe, I can not recall having seen a Beemer space-saver around here, EVER ...

[kill will]

I am sure glad I went on my space saving binge (i bought 5) over 18 months ago when the prices were $75-125.

[MissileMike]

I don't think there is a shill.  The bidders who are winning and coming in 2nd have long histories on ebay of keyboard buying from many, many sellers.

Have you ever tried to find one outside of ebay?  I can't find any outside of ebay even for sale.

[microsoft windows]

Our trolls profess their love for old Windows versions.

Get off OCN!

[J888www]

Kishy, I tend to agree with you that some sort of scam is happening right before our eyes.....

I agree with you both, there's a very slight possibility we maybe wrong but the facts speaks otherwise. It is very difficult to believe a seasoned buyer/seller with 2768 feedbacks would place such a high bid on the 1st. day of a Listing. I may consider myself to be stupid but it would take more subtle deviousness to make a monkey out of me......

Ummm...........am I been dubbed into promotional advertisements again

[didjamatic]

Ebay auctions that go from low prices to beyond previous market values on opening day, sometimes in just a couple of hours, then basically sitting there until just before auction ends is a typical pattern for shill bids.  People drive the price up, then hope to be outbid at the end, protecting their investment or driving it up for the seller.  It might not have anything to do with the seller, it could be collectors driving prices or another dealer sitting on a stack of them waiting for the current seller to run out of stock.

[microsoft windows]

But who is it who keeps buying these Minis?

[didjamatic]

If you create enough stir, then the general public will pay what "the going rate is" whether it's artificial or truly driven by supply/demand.  So many people are buying the minis, but the price is higher than the true market should have made it, based on the pattern of bids that you see on these auctions.

[MissileMike]

I noticed your ortek fetched a hefty price today, didjamatic.  No shill bidding there.  I am sitting on an identical keyboard and might put it up.

[J888www]

I noticed your ortek fetched a hefty price today, didjamatic.  No shill bidding there.  I am sitting on an identical keyboard and might put it up.

I would like to buy it for a true market price of $38, PM sent.  :tongue:

[MissileMike]

I would like to buy it for a true market price of $38, PM sent.  :tongue:

I would like to sell it for the price didja sold his:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190453426432&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[kill will]

I used to do some shill bidding.  It is a good tactic for selling rare cars and other rare higher priced commodities.  All you need are friends/family with accounts to bid on your goods.  Then a very dumb person will walk in at the end and buy it for an outrageous price that you tested and maximized through shill bidding.  That's the beauty,  there is USUALLY that one dumb rich person aka webwit lol and if there isn't, you can always try again pretty easily.

webwit is not a shill bidder.  he is the fish, or whale lol


Also in the ebay world, if a product gets shill bid up to lets say $1000 when the going rate is only $300.  The next auction for the same product is obviously going to be much higher than $300 because people new to the product will think "this is a good deal since the last one went for $1000"

That's why I foresee the next m15 selling for over $1200 even though 2 years ago they were going for $600 range.  

It is definitely simple economics at play, BUT shill bidding may have occurred at some point to manipulate the price.

[J888www]

That's the beauty,  there is USUALLY that one dumb rich person aka webwit lol and if there isn't, you can always try again pretty easily.

webwit is not a shill bidder.  he is the fish, or whale lol

How courageous. You obviously do not know Webwit.

[kill will]

{EDIT}

lol

WEBWIT is the greatest keyboard collector in the world

lol

[kriminal]

heh a lurker spitting hate in webwits face... wow

[kill will]

Ripster this is wheels83.  you are quite the character.  Even though you have just brought my mother into this conversation.  I still think you are a great dude lol

I am starting to remember why I stopped visiting this forum though haha

That keyboard may very well be a Comptekw2K. I probably bought 2 keyboards from him over 18 months ago.  I know its key action was my favorite out the 8 minis I have owned.  I have given 5 of them away to friends because I felt they needed to experience buckling springs.

Why are you so defensive?  And about all things, webwit?!?!

I don't get it.

[didjamatic]

What I was saying was that when an auction gets a crapload of bids on day 1 or even hour 1, it's usually people just bidding to drive the price that don't actually intend to buy it.  If you really wanted to buy it for your own use, you would be smarter than that and wait until later on to drop the big bids.

But I don't think this is a grossly overpriced keyboard by any means.  I'd pay $200 for one in the box for sure.  A good deal more if it was industrial.  (nudge Ripster)  It's just that those early bids are clearly not by someone wanting to win it at a low price, that's all I'm saying.

As for the price of the Ortek, those are as rare as they come.  And all of them I've seen have sold for more than $170 on ebay so that is no surprise.  I absolutely love that keyboard and apparently I'm not alone.  For good reason it is a standout among the mechanical compacts, but very very hard to find.  The hand full I got were pristine and being fukka switches iced the cake.

[bigpook]

I opened my bid at 150 for the last two auctions. I was still interested when it hit 200 but backed off when it went higher. I know there is a lot of interest in these keyboards and have no expectation of scoring one for less than 150.  I guess I don't know how to bid properly...

[didjamatic]

I think Computekw2k is a fine seller, I've spoke with him a couple of times.

So you'll sell me your industrial mini for less than $200?  

[didjamatic]

This is reminding me of high school.

[MissileMike]

Comptek always puts his items up at the same time.  I was waiting for this one to show up, maybe others were too, and so they got excited and bid.

Maybe I should hold on to that Ortek...

[zefrer]

Guys guys.. There's no harm in disagreeing, or arguing but can we please lay off the name calling and **** (see what I did there?). This isn't high school.

Take some recreational whatever and relax..

Lovely keyboard tho.. NIB.. damn.
Someone mentioned not knowing how to bid on ebay. Here's a tip, pick an auction with a lot of interest and see how many bids come in the last minute.. Then see where the bids came from and how frequently one user account bid in that last minute or last few minutes.

[keyboardlover]

Edit: Kishy contacted me and explained what happened.

[itlnstln]

No, IIRC, he left because he was having his posts (and not others') deleted in the GHSS thread.

[zefrer]

Yes I can see that you ignore what people say and just snipe at the last minute whatever you feel like...

Look up the definition of what that is if you want. But you'll just ignore this anyway

[zefrer]

I don't think you understand. I was referring to the fact that if you bid with still days to go the price _will_ get inflated. If you don't bid at all and setup a snipe bid at the last minute with a limit at the highest value you are willing to spend you are much more likely to get a better price than bidding early.

I never said the point was to win, I was referring to ways to make your (plural) bids 'better'.

[J888www]

Maybe I should hold on to that Ortek...

Don't be silly, that Ortek is the worst keyboard in your whole collection, get rid of it quick as possible. I am willing to offer an extremely generous market value price of US$42 and you pay for the cost of Shipping. PM sent. :tongue:

Edit:  Offer retracted, but I will be still accept that Ortek and you still pay cost of shipping and that's the final offer. At a later stage, if you want to get rid of it, I shall charge you a fee.

[MissileMike]

I will consider your generous offer, J888www

btw, a terminal space saver M went for only 41$ last week, I planned to snipe it and was prepared to go up to 100$, but was in a meeting and couldn't excuse myself to bid.  That's the downside of sniping- maybe some bidders aren't going to be around when the auction ends.  Are there tools that can do this for you?

EDIT: There are plenty of sniping tools.  Damnit I am stupid.

[didjamatic]

Now THIS was a great deal.  Complicated White ALPS clickys.   I paid less (including shipping) for this than what the seller paid in shipping.

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Did you buy that from me?

[KillerBee]

his items sell for that much because they are desirable by other member in the keyboard community.

Its not shill bidding is how bad do you want that item.

Heck my own M13 sold for 152.00 just last month when others where not reaching that mark and eventhough I had placed a reasonable BIN for 110.00 it still sold for 152.00.

I know for my sake it boggles my mind how this seller is constantly putting space savers sale.

I am not a space saver kind of guy, I use the enter key from the key pad more than the enter from the main block of keys. (I cant lose that key!!)

Now if there was a space saver from 1985 or 1986 I would atleast consider it if I could place a silver label on it! Hahahaha

[didjamatic]

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Holy smokes that is awesome packaging!  Not only is there no padding, but there's 2 keyboards to clank together!

[itlnstln]

I like the few pieces of paper like it's a half-ass attempt at padding.

[DesktopJinx]

I am enjoying the cognitive dissonance between the box's "Girl Stuff" label (in magenta marker) and the contents.

[kriminal]

Holy smokes that is awesome packaging!  Not only is there no padding, but there's 2 keyboards to clank together!

see now the rubberdome was placed to "cushion" the other keyboard..

[MissileMike]

The a***b person buys tons of typewriter keys too.  I am betting he is making steampunk keyboards.

[didjamatic]

I just think you and Didja are just sour grape Ebay competitors spreading FUD.

Ease up there rippy.  All I said was that when you see people hammering in high bids on day 1 it is typically buyers wanting to drive the price up and who enjoy the novelty of seeing something they already own go for high dollars.  No one including Bigpook who drops a $150 bid on day 1 expects to win it, so why bid?  It's to draw attention to the auction and participate in a push for a higher price.  There's nothing wrong with it, bid how you will.  I've done the same thing on keyboards, but bidding with intent to win is different than bidding to drive a price high or spectating as the prices increase.  

Now here is where I screwed up:

The mistake was that I thought any bid with intent to drive a price up without winning it was a shill bid, but apparently I was mistaken.  A shill is someone working with the seller, pretending to not have any association with them.  And I didn't suspect that because the field of buyers is diverse, it's not just 1-2 people winning it and many who have won are on this forum.

There's no sour grapes here.  I just misunderstood the term.

Oh and I'd sell that AAPL.

[bigpook]

I did the same thing on the current comptekw2k offering and it went over 200, which is my stopping point. If I didn't bid at all, it would still be going for the high price. I am not the only one that wants one.
My way may not be the best way, but I have scored 4 Model M Mini's doing this.

[bigpook]

Shill bidding, bidding too early...whatever. It is all academic to me. The bottom line is someone will pay X amount of dollars for whatever given widget.
If someone is 'shilling' and the price goes over what I was willing to pay, then guess what, I lose the bid. I make some effort to look at past prices to see where the number 'should' be. In the case of the mini's they are in the 200+ range. Like I said, I am ok up to 200. Which is why I haven't scored any lately : )

Now, months from now if for some reason the price drops because demand drops and we are now talking 100 dollars then good for me. What sucks is if someone really wants one but can't afford the high price. So that person is left out in the cold, too bad. Buy a filco with blue cherries and move on. Or keep saving : )

I look at things differently, so feel free to flame me. If I need toilet paper, I go to Walmart and get the jumbo pack. Its the cheapest TP I can get with the most rolls. But we are talking about commodity products, I want the cheaper/lower price.

Keyboards that are no longer produced and that are 'limited in supply' are a different story. And really the only 'value' is the 'value' I place on it, not the seller. A seller is nothing if he doesn't have a buyer, right?

[bigpook]

haha : ) thats pretty trippy. There must be some magic aura that surrounds these keyboards or we geeks are just insane. lol.
comptekw2k must be laughing all the way to the bank.