Awesome! I'm really pumped!
Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.
Approved!
Can we get a photo of the PCB too, please?
And yes, let's go!!
Awesome! I'm really pumped!
Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.
What firmware will the PCB use?
Awesome! I'm really pumped!
Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.
I should have photos/renders for all the colors except the midnight green. will post later.
wanna know the degree and what the middle plate part is.
Awesome! I'm really pumped!
Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.
I should have photos/renders for all the colors except the midnight green. will post later.
So since you don't have photos/renders of midnight green, could you describe it for me?
Is it Kelly green?
https://www.canva.com/colors/color-meanings/kelly-green/
Is it midnight green like this hex?
https://www.colorhexa.com/004953
or is it something else entirely.
Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?
wanna know the degree and what the middle plate part is.
https://imgur.com/7rl51AR
I think there is not Anodizing Blue color sample.
So no WKL for split spacebar?Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?
Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.
So no WKL for split spacebar?Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?
Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.
Oh one thing, a rubber layer between pcb and plate was mentioned in the OP but I can't find it on the form. How much would it cost extra?
The 'customize' the plate field indicates the 6.25u is not compatible with WKL topSo no WKL for split spacebar?Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?
Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.
Here is the universal PCB layout: https://i.imgur.com/MQTZV0o.png
Is there an order limit or is this GB open for two weeks with no cut-off?
Looks attractive, but I'm still debating on options.
Are there any renders that show some side views for non clear materials? I would like to see how much of each layer is visible.
Anyone have experience typing on a titanium plate?
To OP: It would be great to see a profile or 3/4 view of the board with different top, middle, and bottom colors so we can all see precisely how the transition between the 3 elements looks.
When does invoicing begin?
Here is a crappy mock up how the PC case could look with the yellow PCB inside. Maybe someone will find this helpful in their decision making.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kovg0dV.png)
Wow! the number of options is mind-blowing!
So, I ordered 4 sets (4 form responses). However, I haven't got any confirmation emails from Google forms (I guess you set it that way?).
Is there any way I can see the forms I filled? My paranoid self is quite afraid that I might have made a mistake or two.
How do i delete my order?
Was tryjng to order 2pcs and i messed up both of them. :/
I want to start fresh.
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Anyone have experience typing on a titanium plate?
To OP: It would be great to see a profile or 3/4 view of the board with different top, middle, and bottom colors so we can all see precisely how the transition between the 3 elements looks. Similar to the PC side view pic.
Pm sent sir!How do i delete my order?
Was tryjng to order 2pcs and i messed up both of them. :/
I want to start fresh.
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You didn't need to delete the previous orders. You can modify them if you copied the response URL after you filled in the form.
I can send you your response URL if you can't find it. Just PM your email address to me.
What is the cost for the extra plates? I realise the cost to upgrade, but not the cost for the extra.
How does Electrophoresis-Clear look like?
It is possible to split the backspace key am I right?with the universal pcb yes, not with the hot swap
If I wanted to order an extra aluminum plate, how much would that cost?
Silly question, are prices in USD?
Is this how the layers are arranged?
Is this how the layers are arranged?
Can a split spacebar 6.25u layout be used with the wkl top?The 'customize' the plate field indicates the 6.25u is not compatible with WKL topSo no WKL for split spacebar?Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?
Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.
Here is the universal PCB layout: https://i.imgur.com/MQTZV0o.png
Sorry this may be a stupid question as this is my first GB board. Does the hot swap PCB support 7U, 6.25U or both types of space bar?
Will the teal more or less look like this?
Form filled out. I wish there was an option to change the accent coloring on the kanji logo though...
That's not the kanji logoForm filled out. I wish there was an option to change the accent coloring on the kanji logo though...
There... is?
Customize the top right Key logo (optional): material-(finish)-color
Customize the Key logo on the weight (optional): material-(finish)-color
key logo -> not literally 'key logo' but more like, the KEYBOARD logo
(At least if i understood correctly)
I directly assumed they only meant "key logo" because of the option on each of those questions: "I didn't choose the key logo". I guess I'll go make a change and hope for the best, haha. Thanks. :)Form filled out. I wish there was an option to change the accent coloring on the kanji logo though...
There... is?
Customize the top right Key logo (optional): material-(finish)-color
Customize the Key logo on the weight (optional): material-(finish)-color
key logo -> not literally 'key logo' but more like, the KEYBOARD logo
(At least if i understood correctly)
No you were originally correct, you can only change the finish of the key logo and not the kanji which is just engraved on the topI directly assumed they only meant "key logo" because of the option on each of those questions: "I didn't choose the key logo". I guess I'll go make a change and hope for the best, haha. Thanks. :)Form filled out. I wish there was an option to change the accent coloring on the kanji logo though...
There... is?
Customize the top right Key logo (optional): material-(finish)-color
Customize the Key logo on the weight (optional): material-(finish)-color
key logo -> not literally 'key logo' but more like, the KEYBOARD logo
(At least if i understood correctly)
What is the cost for the extra plates? I realise the cost to upgrade, but not the cost for the extra.
What is the weight difference between the brass and aluminium weight?
What is the weight difference between the brass and aluminium weight?
Weight.
What is the weight difference between the brass and aluminium weight?
Weight.
He's asking the number, not what difference. I'd like to know too.
He's asking the number, not what difference. I'd like to know too.
Is this how the layers are arranged?
You got RGB underglow on PCB?
Hi senter, how will the key logo top look like on polycarb version?
Will it be color as well as the alu? Or will it be just engraving?
Thanks!
1. can we ask to undervalue the package?
2. whats the weight difference between brass vs alu weight?
3. if i choose brass weight will the shipping get more expensive due to the increased weight?
4. you may want to change the "I didn't order the Key logo top case" option under key logo weight questionIs this how the layers are arranged?
also need confirmation on this pls, is this example using ANO BLUE as the top and middle, and ANO GRAY as bottom?
What is the thickness on the plates (in mm)?
Sorry this may be a stupid question as this is my first GB board. Does the hot swap PCB support 7U, 6.25U or both types of space bar?
Will the teal more or less look like this?
How much would it cost to get an Alps plate cut? And where could I get it done?
Any chance we can order 1 extra front and back logo in different colors?
It would help when matching different keysets.
Cheers!
Will there be any additional details about the pcb, like rgb led support (same as leaf60?) and firmware?
Q: ISO support?
A: Supported by the universal PCB but not by plates. I'll share the plate file before the GB closes.
@senter
For the question
Customize the Key logo on the weight (optional): material-(finish)-color
Option
I didnt order the Key logo top case
The option ought to be “I didnt order the Key logo weight”
Correct?
He's asking the number, not what difference. I'd like to know too.
That makes more sense, yea would be nice to know.
Speaking of which is there a price difference between the key logo(s) being brass as opposed to not? As per what is written in OP and in the form it appears not but rather get confirmation.
Can the Kanji logo be colored in like the Key logo? I don't see any renders of it, but I see options in the form.
AH i see for someone reason I thought it was gonna be in the yellow color as seen in the pictures. So if I just get a PC case it will be engraved within the clear PC?Can the Kanji logo be colored in like the Key logo? I don't see any renders of it, but I see options in the form.
The options are for the key logo. The Kanji is engraved, not a separate piece.
AH i see for someone reason I thought it was gonna be in the yellow color as seen in the pictures. So if I just get a PC case it will be engraved within the clear PC?
Can the Kanji logo be colored in like the Key logo? I don't see any renders of it, but I see options in the form.
Q: ISO support?
A: Supported by the universal PCB but not by plates. I'll share the plate file before the GB closes.
im pretty new to this hobby but this keyboard looks sick, I need iso. what can i do with the plate files if you release them?
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!
This !Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!
To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom? It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!
To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom? It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
Do you have a sample of how it would look engraved in the clear PC?
im nervous it will look like I took a knife and made some lines. You know like when you scratch plastic? Hoping it be thick enough to show it’s a designDo you have a sample of how it would look engraved in the clear PC?
Would like this as well. Has anyone seen this done on a PC board before? I want to know if it would look good before deciding to go with the top right blocker on PC.
im nervous it will look like I took a knife and made some lines. You know like when you scratch plastic? Hoping it be thick enough to show it’s a design
Yeah I think I will be joining you on that oneim nervous it will look like I took a knife and made some lines. You know like when you scratch plastic? Hoping it be thick enough to show it’s a design
Yeah I'm going with no blocker since I am not sure it will look good even though I'd prefer the blocker
I am in for WKL hotswap, Full PC case, teal plate, teal weight, with Brass key logos on both sides :D stoked
I am in for WKL hotswap, Full PC case, teal plate, teal weight, with Brass key logos on both sides :D stoked
Is the hotswap and WKL an option? I was under the impression that the hotswap PCB only supported the 7u spacebar? Does this mean a 1u blocker is an option?
Do you have a sample of how it would look engraved in the clear PC?
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!
To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom? It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
This !Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!
To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom? It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
Is pcb compatible with tx65? Or is it compatible with other center usb pcb? becuase i want to rgb led
Any idea what the connector will be for the PCB? Hopefully usb-c?
Sick, please dm me, I'd like to pay earlyAlso please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!
To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom? It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.This !Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!
To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom? It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
Sure. I'm working on it. Here's an example. I'll update more when I get time.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/YtB13AU.jpg)
Good news, E-Clear finish has been upgraded.Wait you're showing an ISO compatible plate ! Is that the new plate for this GB ?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UH7d7pJ.jpg)
We've added an additional process before applying E-Clear so it will look cleaner!
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!
To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom? It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.This !Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!
To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom? It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
Sure. I'm working on it. Here's an example. I'll update more when I get time.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/YtB13AU.jpg)
Just realized I didnt receive a copy of the google form I filled out and sent. Now I'm not sure if my submission went through. :-[Send Senter a Msg. The first few orders didnt recieve a confirmation, you'll have to have him reset it.
I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board?
have any pics of the split spacebar?
Do you have a Picture of pc with kanji in the top right?
Hi Senter,
Can you comment on the amount of flex in aluminium and PC plate choice?
Is it indeed noticeable?
So if it’s screwed on that means we could opt in for it and unscrew it to remove it if we wanted too?I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board?
The Key logo is screwed on.
Is there midnight green Brass-Electrophoresis plate option?
Really appreciate the attention to all questions Senter!
So if it’s screwed on that means we could opt in for it and unscrew it to remove it if we wanted too?I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board?
The Key logo is screwed on.
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When you get pictures of the hotswap pcb, can you take a pic of both front and back? I'm trying to picture what you mean when you say leds strips can be added later. That said, are underglow smd's absolutely off the table? I saw a prior post where you say they have a high failure rate but a lot of the other high end boards(e6.5 and think6.5) as well as lower end boards have underglow with no obvious issues. I've been intrigued by gasket mount and PC cases so this checks all my marks except the missing underglow.
So if it’s screwed on that means we could opt in for it and unscrew it to remove it if we wanted too?I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board?
The Key logo is screwed on.
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Is there midnight green Brass-Electrophoresis plate option?
When you get pictures of the hotswap pcb, can you take a pic of both front and back? I'm trying to picture what you mean when you say leds strips can be added later. That said, are underglow smd's absolutely off the table? I saw a prior post where you say they have a high failure rate but a lot of the other high end boards(e6.5 and think6.5) as well as lower end boards have underglow with no obvious issues. I've been intrigued by gasket mount and PC cases so this checks all my marks except the missing underglow.
Sure. I'll post later when I receive the prototype.
I mean something like thisShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/HkAJoUd.jpg)
The difference is that you don't need to solder the wire on the MCU.
Here's a photo of a Leaf 60 PCB.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6SNHWRL.jpg)
Can you see the VOG pads? They are for soldering the WS2812 LED strips.
Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?I'm pretty sure the sockets would interfere with the mounting holes if they were to accommodate both layouts. They had to go with either one of them and they chose full backspace.
You got a fully built one yet and sound clips? Maybe send one to taehatypesThat man can even make a Tofu sound amazing.
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When I choose PC plate, Is there anything that speaks against the rubber sheet between the plate and PCB look-wise?
Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?
Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?I'm pretty sure the sockets would interfere with the mounting holes if they were to accommodate both layouts. They had to go with either one of them and they chose full backspace.
Additionally this means that you cannot have a split spacebar and wkl top, due to the wkl top not supporting 6.25u spacebar.Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?I'm pretty sure the sockets would interfere with the mounting holes if they were to accommodate both layouts. They had to go with either one of them and they chose full backspace.
This. The split-spacebar can only be either 6.25u or 7u, not both. We chose 6.25u.
Am I being totally blind?? I cannot find the order linkIt's a Google form, then the gb runner invoices you for your order via email
Am I being totally blind?? I cannot find the order linkIt's a Google form, then the gb runner invoices you for your order via email
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Am I being totally blind?? I cannot find the order linkIt's a Google form, then the gb runner invoices you for your order via email
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Awesome. Can't find that either though....
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In for a board for sure, but would love to see a PC top with the Kanji logo. Any hope to see an example before hand? Like others have said, I would love to have that option but only if it looks good and not look janky.
I have a couple questions...
First, have you had a chance to weigh the weights?
I'm curious about the weight difference between brass/aluminum, although the lack of a space grey brass option might make that a moot point.
Second, if we make multiple orders, will they be shipped together?
Just wondering if I'll be paying shipping twice if I order two boards, or if they can be combined to save on shipping costs.
Couple questions.
1. No lighting (per key/underglow) on Hotswap and Solder PCB?
2. If there is or if I add light, does the light come out through the middle case if I opt in PC middle and alu top/bottom?
3. No Bluetooth?
4. Support Screw In PCB mount stabs?
In for a board for sure, but would love to see a PC top with the Kanji logo. Any hope to see an example before hand? Like others have said, I would love to have that option but only if it looks good and not look janky.
No. We're not gonna make more prototypes before GB closes.
Couple questions.
1. No lighting (per key/underglow) on Hotswap and Solder PCB?
2. If there is or if I add light, does the light come out through the middle case if I opt in PC middle and alu top/bottom?
3. No Bluetooth?
4. Support Screw In PCB mount stabs?
1. Per key backlight is supported
2. No
3. No
4. Yes
In for a board for sure, but would love to see a PC top with the Kanji logo. Any hope to see an example before hand? Like others have said, I would love to have that option but only if it looks good and not look janky.
No. We're not gonna make more prototypes before GB closes.
Dang, what about for the factory maybe doing an example on a small piece of PC with engraving on it just to get an idea? I just can't remember the last time i've seen PC with engraving in it. If not its no biggie, i'll probably order it anyways and cross my fingers.
I have a couple questions...
First, have you had a chance to weigh the weights?
I'm curious about the weight difference between brass/aluminum, although the lack of a space grey brass option might make that a moot point.
Second, if we make multiple orders, will they be shipped together?
Just wondering if I'll be paying shipping twice if I order two boards, or if they can be combined to save on shipping costs.
The weight difference between aluminum and brass weights is 264g/0.58lb.
Yes, they can be shipped together. The shipping fee depends on the total weight. Combined shipping can save a little but not half.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1BxzXKQ.jpg)
will have the hotswap version on Sunday.
is it going to be kailh sockets?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lQ9gOrB.jpg)
The hotswap prototype PCB is finished as well. Will test it later.
yeah idk now. I wanted the pc case with the top kanji logo so bad..I’m just hesitant about buying things and not knowing what it looks like.In for a board for sure, but would love to see a PC top with the Kanji logo. Any hope to see an example before hand? Like others have said, I would love to have that option but only if it looks good and not look janky.
No. We're not gonna make more prototypes before GB closes.
Dang, what about for the factory maybe doing an example on a small piece of PC with engraving on it just to get an idea? I just can't remember the last time i've seen PC with engraving in it. If not its no biggie, i'll probably order it anyways and cross my fingers.
Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?
Can I use the 7u spacebar version plate for a universal pcb to do a 7u split backspace layout? Some pics show a dedicated backspace cutout and the plate layout picture shows an open cutout for the backspace so wasn't sure.
1. https://imgur.com/WR1gW3B
2. https://i.imgur.com/ByWUlIO.jpg
Hoping for it to be like picture 2 so I can do a wkl 7u bottom row with split backspace layout.
I have a couple questions...
First, have you had a chance to weigh the weights?
I'm curious about the weight difference between brass/aluminum, although the lack of a space grey brass option might make that a moot point.
Second, if we make multiple orders, will they be shipped together?
Just wondering if I'll be paying shipping twice if I order two boards, or if they can be combined to save on shipping costs.
The weight difference between aluminum and brass weights is 264g/0.58lb.
Yes, they can be shipped together. The shipping fee depends on the total weight. Combined shipping can save a little but not half.
Cool, thanks for the info. I don't think just over a half pound difference will make me sad about going with aluminum to get the color choice I want.
How should we arrange for combined shipping? Or am I getting ahead of myself here?
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1BxzXKQ.jpg)
will have the hotswap version on Sunday.
also, is it possible to not have silk screen around stabilizer holes, so don't need to use nylon washers etc., to not short the keyboard when using GMK screw-in stabs?
thanks
is it going to be kailh sockets?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lQ9gOrB.jpg)
The hotswap prototype PCB is finished as well. Will test it later.
Payment all made, bring on the excitement :p
Payment all made, bring on the excitement :p
When did you get your invoice? I received the first email, but not the invoice.
Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?
I can do that if most people think it's necessary. Everyone except the first 40 should have the order information in their email inboxes. Posting the spreadsheet means publishing everyone's email address and I don't feel right about that.
Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?
I can do that if most people think it's necessary. Everyone except the first 40 should have the order information in their email inboxes. Posting the spreadsheet means publishing everyone's email address and I don't feel right about that.
By first email do you mean the google form info? Other than that I didn't receive anything.
By first email do you mean the google form info? Other than that I didn't receive anything.
The follow up from senter saying invoices will be sent for first 200
Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?
I can do that if most people think it's necessary. Everyone except the first 40 should have the order information in their email inboxes. Posting the spreadsheet means publishing everyone's email address and I don't feel right about that.
I like the spreadsheet idea. But we can replace email with invoice number
Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?
I can do that if most people think it's necessary. Everyone except the first 40 should have the order information in their email inboxes. Posting the spreadsheet means publishing everyone's email address and I don't feel right about that.
I like the spreadsheet idea. But we can replace email with invoice number
What does the text on the weight say? 🤨
What happens if there is going to be a delay at manufacturing and the boards will not come in the desired state? Afaik Paypal protection lasts only about 6 months.
What happens if there is going to be a delay at manufacturing and the boards will not come in the desired state? Afaik Paypal protection lasts only about 6 months.
I've seen people ask for refunds and to be re-invoiced in those situations.
Super interested in joining this, as my first ever mechanical keyboard :)
If I'm buying from the UK, are there any weird fees I should be aware of? I know of import duties, but is there anything else that might suddenly increase the price considerably?
Does the $295 include VAT? Also, could those import duties be 'avoided' with some slight mislabeled parcel values?
Also very new to keyboards, so very unknowledgeable about most things. I've seen mentions of per-key backlighting. What actually is this? Is this just when you have switches with integrated LEDs?
Really excited to maybe join this GB, if only I can decide what combination I want >:D
If I'm buying from the UK, are there any weird fees I should be aware of? I know of import duties, but is there anything else that might suddenly increase the price considerably?It doesn't include VAT, since it's shipping worldwide and every country has different VAT rates. You may be invoiced by customs to pay VAT and any other fees before the package is released.
Does the $295 include VAT?
Also, could those import duties be 'avoided' with some slight mislabeled parcel values?Probably. This isn't an off the shelf product, whose price can be easily confirmed. But if your customs officers are clever they will find the real value and you may get fined for messing around.
Also very new to keyboards, so very unknowledgeable about most things. I've seen mentions of per-key backlighting. What actually is this? Is this just when you have switches with integrated LEDs?I haven't yet seen any switches with integrated LEDs, but most of them have a little slot for LED mounting. You can pick up LEDs of your preferred color, nest them in the switches and solder them to the PCB. That's what "per-key backlighting" usually means: that the PCB supports installing individual LEDs. There are also PCBs that instead have SMD (Surface Mounted Device) RGB LEDs already pre-soldered where the keys would be. They can shine through switches if the switches have clear housings, providing you with a full RGB backlighting without the need to solder the LEDs. One example of such a PCB would be the Zeal60.
Really excited to maybe join this GB, if only I can decide what combination I want >:DThere's already over 200 orders for this board. I don't think Fox Labs said there's going to be a limit on the production, but waiting too long might push you to the very end of the queue and a very long wait.
Do you have a sample of how it would look engraved in the clear PC?
No
Yay! Got invoiced. Paid and patiently waiting. :) Hope everyone put in their PayPal emails in the order form. If not, check your email - senter wants you to contact them to sort it out.
If I'm buying from the UK, are there any weird fees I should be aware of? I know of import duties, but is there anything else that might suddenly increase the price considerably?It doesn't include VAT, since it's shipping worldwide and every country has different VAT rates. You may be invoiced by customs to pay VAT and any other fees before the package is released.
Does the $295 include VAT?Also, could those import duties be 'avoided' with some slight mislabeled parcel values?Probably. This isn't an off the shelf product, whose price can be easily confirmed. But if your customs officers are clever they will find the real value and you may get fined for messing around.Also very new to keyboards, so very unknowledgeable about most things. I've seen mentions of per-key backlighting. What actually is this? Is this just when you have switches with integrated LEDs?I haven't yet seen any switches with integrated LEDs, but most of them have a little slot for LED mounting. You can pick up LEDs of your preferred color, nest them in the switches and solder them to the PCB. That's what "per-key backlighting" usually means: that the PCB supports installing individual LEDs. There are also PCBs that instead have SMD (Surface Mounted Device) RGB LEDs already pre-soldered where the keys would be. They can shine through switches if the switches have clear housings, providing you with a full RGB backlighting without the need to solder the LEDs. One example of such a PCB would be the Zeal60.
The photos of the PCB provided by senter show that it has LED mounting points, but no pre-installed SMD LEDs. Of course, if it did have SMD LEDs it would probably be underlined heavily in the GB thread, since it's an expensive and sometimes sought-after feature.Really excited to maybe join this GB, if only I can decide what combination I want >:DThere's already over 200 orders for this board. I don't think Fox Labs said there's going to be a limit on the production, but waiting too long might push you to the very end of the queue and a very long wait.
will the plate files you release be iso or just ansi?
Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?
I can do that if most people think it's necessary. Everyone except the first 40 should have the order information in their email inboxes. Posting the spreadsheet means publishing everyone's email address and I don't feel right about that.
I like the spreadsheet idea. But we can replace email with invoice number
What happens if there is going to be a delay at manufacturing and the boards will not come in the desired state? Afaik Paypal protection lasts only about 6 months.
anyone plan on getting pom middle with alu top/bottom?I was thinking to get top and middle PC, with Alu bottom.
Do you have a sample of how it would look engraved in the clear PC?
No
I’m assuming since you guys are offering this as an option that the factory is aware and capable of producing it? Seems like it would be really cool but don’t think I’ve ever seen something like this done on PC before.
Do you guys have a discord that I can join?
About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?
I can't seem to edit my submission.I think senter mentioned that editing will be disabled while invoices are being sent out. Maybe try contacting them via the groupbuy email.
Hey senter, I accidentally submitted the form with the wrong email (not my paypal one).. Is there any way to change it? :-[
Order information of the first batch invoices: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ke59MgAsZ6ndgRrGKoOHbbexn5sZshrAS9p2pbRq0U0
YesOrder information of the first batch invoices: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ke59MgAsZ6ndgRrGKoOHbbexn5sZshrAS9p2pbRq0U0
Does the order number match the invoice number in paypal?
About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?
pretty sure both pcbs will not come with any leds, you'll have to add your own but it should shine through.
This is the only thing about this guy that has me hesitant. Always have wanted a PC board but really wish it had underglow.
This is the only thing about this guy that has me hesitant. Always have wanted a PC board but really wish it had underglow.
I wish it did as well, but I think it's still worth it without it. It also has pinouts for a LED Strip, but I'm not sure I want to add that myself.
Hi, do you have any non-rendered photos of the keyboard of the side profile, the back etc? Different angles besides a birds eye?
I received the first email, but not the invoice.i believe the first batch of invoices were sent out to the first 200 orders, all to do now is wait
How can i receive the invoice?
How do i pay for this?Fill out the form from the first post and make sure to use an email address that's connected to your PayPal account. Once your order is processed, you will be invoiced on PayPal (you will receive an email from PP and senter). Pay the invoiced amount via PayPal. That's it. It will provide you with 6 months of buyer protection.
i’ve realized i’ve put the wrong email, should i wait for edits to open up again or email/pm to fix it?
oh we have to use the email that is linked to our paypal account?i’ve realized i’ve put the wrong email, should i wait for edits to open up again or email/pm to fix it?
Just send an email or PM. There was an email sent a couple days ago asking for people to get that corrected if they didn't use their paypal email.
oh we have to use the email that is linked to our paypal account?i’ve realized i’ve put the wrong email, should i wait for edits to open up again or email/pm to fix it?
Just send an email or PM. There was an email sent a couple days ago asking for people to get that corrected if they didn't use their paypal email.
Has the second batch of invoice emails been sent out yet? I sent my google from in on Tuesday of this week but I was looking through the thread and swa that some people haven't received their while others have.
About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?
pretty sure both pcbs will not come with any leds, you'll have to add your own but it should shine through.
About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?
Last 3 questions then I think I'm ready to order :)
1. Aluminum weight with key logo - Does 'Brass-Electrophoresis-Clear key logo' cost extra? In the OP I only see a note about the brass weight being extra.
2. The key logo on the weight is inset? It's screwed into the weight? Is there a chance we'll have to modify the key logo(sand) to fit into the inset hole?
3. Will the case screws provided be the gold colored ones in the pics?
Thanks!
I received the first email, but not the invoice.
How can i receive the invoice?
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?
About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?
pretty sure both pcbs will not come with any leds, you'll have to add your own but it should shine through.About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?
The LEDs on the hotswapable PCB are pre-soldered. They are for the per key backlight tho, not for bottom shine through.
Theoretically yes.About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?
pretty sure both pcbs will not come with any leds, you'll have to add your own but it should shine through.About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?
The LEDs on the hotswapable PCB are pre-soldered. They are for the per key backlight tho, not for bottom shine through.
oh damn, so if I ordered a PC top with a hotswap PCB and turned the LEDs on im assuming we would be able to slightly seem some shine through?
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?
Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.
The logo on the weight can only be seen if the keyboard is turned upside down right? (even if it is PC clear)
The logo on the weight can only be seen if the keyboard is turned upside down right? (even if it is PC clear)
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?
Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?
Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.
what colour are the per key lighting leds if they are not RGB?
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?
Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.
I was wondering what you mean by not RGB. What colour will the LEDs be?
The logo on the weight can only be seen if the keyboard is turned upside down right? (even if it is PC clear)
Super hyped to start my first build! Will the hotswap pcb work with 7u space bar + wk top plate?
On the key logo version, where would the FN key be? I know it's assignable, but is there a default location?
EDIT: Specifically for WKL
On the key logo version, where would the FN key be? I know it's assignable, but is there a default location?
EDIT: Specifically for WKL
Caps Lock
Is there something wrong with form atm? I tried editing my order but all i get is: "There was a problem submitting your response"
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?
Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.
I was wondering what you mean by not RGB. What colour will the LEDs be?
White
Invoiced and paid! Super excited. Did we ever get a picture of the hotswap PCB?Yes, here:
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lQ9gOrB.jpg)
The hotswap prototype PCB is finished as well. Will test it later.
Hope you consider changing the LEDs to rgbIs the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?
Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.
I was wondering what you mean by not RGB. What colour will the LEDs be?
White
Yeah, hope you can consider rgb if it don't require redesign the pcb.Hope you consider changing the LEDs to rgbIs the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?
Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.
I was wondering what you mean by not RGB. What colour will the LEDs be?
White
Yeah, hope you can consider rgb if it don't require redesign the pcb.Hope you consider changing the LEDs to rgbIs the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?
Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.
I was wondering what you mean by not RGB. What colour will the LEDs be?
White
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when is the last day to place an order?GB started on 2019-09-25 and it's meant to run for two weeks, so that would make the final day of the group buy 2019-10-09 (Wednesday).
I didnt receive the invoice yet ? Sent my order 2 days ago.
Would I be able to change my shipping address before the keyboards gets shipped out?
ISO plate files have been attached in OP as promised. They are NOT fully tested tho.
ISO plate files have been attached in OP as promised. They are NOT fully tested tho.
so should I just get this file to lasergist or should I wait? will you fully test it?
Is there a discord server or email which we can use to reach out to Fox Lab?
there are no pieces sticking out on the bottom and top of the iso plates to hold it in a topmount, am i dumb or is it not finished completely?
Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.Yeah cool I'd like to know how much a copper or steel plate would be
Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.Do you think plastic(PC) is also a possibility?
RGB per key would indeed require a board redesign, so don't get your hopes up.
Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.I'd be in for brass, i was going to send the file to LaserBoost as they are in EU too, but it seems the file is incomplete and lacks measurements ?
Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.
what materials are the gaskets made of?
also how is the center of the key logo going to be coloured? Is it always black or is it colour matched to the weight/front plate?
what materials are the gaskets made of?
also how is the center of the key logo going to be coloured? Is it always black or is it colour matched to the weight/front plate?
You can pick which color you want the key logos to be. Both on the front and in the weight can be picked seperately
I meant the middle quarter circles in the logo. I'm assuming the whole key is one piece so that part will have to be painted a colour.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PDPgw4s.jpg)what materials are the gaskets made of?
also how is the center of the key logo going to be coloured? Is it always black or is it colour matched to the weight/front plate?
You can pick which color you want the key logos to be. Both on the front and in the weight can be picked seperately
RGB per key would indeed require a board redesign, so don't get your hopes up.
I'm pretty new to this so I'm just wondering why it'd require a PCB redesign. Is this because there would need to be a controller?
If that's the case, can I just swap out the led's with which ever colour I'd like to use?
I meant the middle quarter circles in the logo. I'm assuming the whole key is one piece so that part will have to be painted a colour.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PDPgw4s.jpg)
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.
When exactly do the orders close?
I'm still trying to make up mind, and would appreciate it if someone could weigh in on how easily the PC and POM might scratch. Also, comparing densities, they are both less than half that of aluminium - would that result in a board that feels light and flimsy like someone else was also wondering, or would the aluminium weight be substantial enough to make up for it?
I think the biggest hurdle to this is the uncertainty with colour matching, as well as the price. If only there was a way to quickly generate a colour matching with potential keycap colourways with the intended case coloursI am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.
You can always choose PC + aluminum.
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
I think the biggest hurdle to this is the uncertainty with colour matching, as well as the price. If only there was a way to quickly generate a colour matching with potential keycap colourways with the intended case coloursI am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.
You can always choose PC + aluminum.
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
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I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.
You can always choose PC + aluminum.
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
I went white/yellow/teal with pink plate/weight. no idea what keyset is going to fit, but i had to get some colors!I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.
You can always choose PC + aluminum.
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.
You can always choose PC + aluminum.
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
Put in my order on the 4th and I havn't recieved my invoice, this is just how it is right, just gotta wait? just worried I'll end up missing out somehow, because something went wrong :/Just email him runninghack@gmail.com
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.After you posted the first batch of orders, I checked if anyone had the same combo as me. It was just one person, but they took the 7u spaced version, while I got the 6.25u. I understand people, who just want a clean board, but with this many options available taking 3x Poly, 3x e-black or 3x e-black is kind of dull. That said, mine wasn't that much more creative - a White/White/Black with a black key, white weight and black key on the weight. This is my first custom, so I didn't want to go overboard on the wacky stuff. Plus, I want to put KAT Milkshake on this, so it had to fit the keyset.
I think the biggest hurdle to this is the uncertainty with colour matching, as well as the price. If only there was a way to quickly generate a colour matching with potential keycap colourways with the intended case coloursI am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.
You can always choose PC + aluminum.
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
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I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.
You can always choose PC + aluminum.
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
Will the fit and finish/quality of the PC case be the same as the aluminium? My biggest worry is that the case would be warping and misalignment due to the soft nature of the material e.g. the weight not sitting flush with the back.
Daaang that's very nice lookin! Good theming on itI think the biggest hurdle to this is the uncertainty with colour matching, as well as the price. If only there was a way to quickly generate a colour matching with potential keycap colourways with the intended case coloursI am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.
You can always choose PC + aluminum.
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
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True. That makes sense to me. My render guy does great work but was seldom available. I'll do more renders the next time.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2rQYpK0.jpg)
Here's a new render another friend made for me. It's not how PC case looks. It should be matte.
Only putting in orders ends tomorrow right? And invoices need to be paid by the 16th? I'm just waiting to get paid to pay my invoice hahaha. Also, do we just message you if we want to change our order?
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.After you posted the first batch of orders, I checked if anyone had the same combo as me. It was just one person, but they took the 7u spaced version, while I got the 6.25u. I understand people, who just want a clean board, but with this many options available taking 3x Poly, 3x e-black or 3x e-black is kind of dull. That said, mine wasn't that much more creative - a White/White/Black with a black key, white weight and black key on the weight. This is my first custom, so I didn't want to go overboard on the wacky stuff. Plus, I want to put KAT Milkshake on this, so it had to fit the keyset.
I'm pretty sure if you ever run this board again and have more photos of different color-combos it's going to encourage more creative orders.
White/White/Black with a black key, white weight and black key on the weight.
I'm sorry if this has already been asked.
I just joined the GB, when will the invoice be sent out?
I'm sorry if this has already been asked.
I just joined the GB, when will the invoice be sent out?
Whoever hasn't received the invoice will be invoiced in the 3rd batch tomorrow.
True. That makes sense to me. My render guy does great work but was seldom available. I'll do more renders the next time.Damn, that key logo on a poly top piece looks sick.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2rQYpK0.jpg)
Here's a new render another friend made for me. It's not how PC case looks. It should be matte.
I got white/white/black with white weight as well but with kanji logo on the weight.The W/W/B combo should look clean AF, tho. Can't wait for mine. :)
And I agree that this is a safer/less innovative color combo. Might start trying out more bold ideas later on down the road tho.
Yep, I still hope people will post innovative and incredible combinations after the boards are delivered, even not too many.Oh, interesting. Respectable approach. In any case, I'll make sure to post photos of my build after it's done.
I never run round 2s. If there's nothing new, it doesn't worth my time to run it.
Can I still edit the form after submission?
I noticed that on list number 2 it states that “don’t fill in the form multiple times unless you want to place more than 1 order”
Does that mean creating a new form? Or editing the current submitted form?
Thanks
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.
You can always choose PC + aluminum.
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
Looking at the list, looks like my combo is completely Unique :D
Looking at the list, looks like my combo is completely Unique :D
Same here. Had a keycap set in mind that I wanted to match and just went far out with the colors. Could look bad or amazing but that's part of the fun I guess.
It's closed? I need to edit the form. Any other way to access?
should have asked earlier but is there any hope for buying multiple key logos as extras after the GB?
should have asked earlier but is there any hope for buying multiple key logos as extras after the GB?
Senter mentioned that no extras can be purchased aside from the extra plate and PCB in the form. This buy already had too many combinations that Senter didn't want to make it more confusing with extra anything else.
RGB per key would indeed require a board redesign, so don't get your hopes up.
I'm pretty new to this so I'm just wondering why it'd require a PCB redesign. Is this because there would need to be a controller?
If that's the case, can I just swap out the led's with which ever colour I'd like to use?
Hey ordered a day or two ago, still haven’t received an invoice. Should I be worried?
I ordered e-black and e-pink combo, think its gonna be tits.
im pretty excited about e-pink and hope it turns out very poppy. no idea what keyset ill run, but thats a worry for tomorrow.
and really hoping for a one off Damascus proton weight like was mentioned in the IC ;D
Wallets feeling empty after two boards ordered 🤣 for people who ordered multiple, i assume we can combine shipping?
All the orders have been invoiced and posted in the spreadsheet.
All the orders have been invoiced and posted in the spreadsheet.
All the orders have been invoiced and posted in the spreadsheet.
Almost 500 orders with million combinations? Now I'm starting to get worried about the QC.
All the orders have been invoiced and posted in the spreadsheet.
Almost 500 orders with million combinations? Now I'm starting to get worried about the QC.
no worry, it is FOX
I came too late into the hobby for this groupbuy, are there any other way I can get my hand on this?You might be able to still get in on it if you message foxlab, it's worth a shot. Other than that, there's always the secondary market or potentially getting a personal order in, which would probably cost more of course.
Okay, I will tryI came too late into the hobby for this groupbuy, are there any other way I can get my hand on this?You might be able to still get in on it if you message foxlab, it's worth a shot. Other than that, there's always the secondary market or potentially getting a personal order in, which would probably cost more of course.
Is it too late to change my coating? hahaShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/zDtMjNC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8t5ARfg.jpg)
We've started using these rubber inserts on screw holes during the E-coating. The screw holes will be clean after E-coating.
Follow me on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/fox_lab_keyboard) for my most recent updates and experiments. https://www.instagram.com/fox_lab_keyboard/
When you get pictures of the hotswap pcb, can you take a pic of both front and back? I'm trying to picture what you mean when you say leds strips can be added later. That said, are underglow smd's absolutely off the table? I saw a prior post where you say they have a high failure rate but a lot of the other high end boards(e6.5 and think6.5) as well as lower end boards have underglow with no obvious issues. I've been intrigued by gasket mount and PC cases so this checks all my marks except the missing underglow.
Sure. I'll post later when I receive the prototype.
I mean something like thisShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/HkAJoUd.jpg)
The difference is that you don't need to solder the wire on the MCU.
Here's a photo of a Leaf 60 PCB.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6SNHWRL.jpg)
Can you see the VOG pads? They are for soldering the WS2812 LED strips.
senter is the finalized color of the pcb going to be yellow or a more neutral color? Think yellow would clash a bit with PC boards?
So, because I'm very new at this, I need to ask:
V = Voltage
O = Data out
G = Ground
Is this correct. Sorry if this is obvious.
senter is the finalized color of the pcb going to be yellow or a more neutral color? Think yellow would clash a bit with PC boards?
I'm planning to go with yellow but what are the more neutral colors to you?
senter is the finalized color of the pcb going to be yellow or a more neutral color? Think yellow would clash a bit with PC boards?
I'm planning to go with yellow but what are the more neutral colors to you?
White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.
White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.
OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.
White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.
OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.
Perhaps you could run a poll for this? I'm assuming colourful cases would like neutral PCBs and vice versa
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White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.
OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.
Sharing some photos of the boards we just finished manufacturing for another groupDamn too bad that purple wasnt offered with Key that is amazing!!!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sC2t9nB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/U4UyILU.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yHIO8mF.jpg)
White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.
OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.
I would also prefer a white PCB
This is my first group buy and knowing that the pcb is going to be yellow. I even built around it choosing to go with all pc top mid and bottom with a pc plate to show off the pcb with brass weight as accent to complement my build. I can understand some that want a different color pcb but most will never see it in the finished build unlike those who chose pc clear. Please keep it they original yellow.I have an alu only case. would like it white, but i only see the pcb during building.
Does the pcb have esd protection?
Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.
Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.Do you think plastic(PC) is also a possibility?
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Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.Yeah cool I'd like to know how much a copper or steel plate would be
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White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.
OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.
OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.
Hey Senter, will you be confirming shipping address in a couple months when we're invoiced the $40 dollars for shipping costs? I just found out today I will most likely be moving in the next few weeks and the address listed on my paypal at time of purchase will be incorrect.
Hey Senter, will you be confirming shipping address in a couple months when we're invoiced the $40 dollars for shipping costs? I just found out today I will most likely be moving in the next few weeks and the address listed on my paypal at time of purchase will be incorrect.
general practice is to ship to the address on the shipping invoice but confirmation is always good
i.e. deal with it when the time comes, but good to get ahead of it
Hey Senter, will you be confirming shipping address in a couple months when we're invoiced the $40 dollars for shipping costs? I just found out today I will most likely be moving in the next few weeks and the address listed on my paypal at time of purchase will be incorrect.
Same, please confirm address when invoicing us. I may already move out too by the time the shipping starts.
My 2 cents about this whole PCB thing: I don't care much about the color but people knew it was yellow from the IC, so what else is left to discuss?
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My bad! It was already here in this thread:My 2 cents about this whole PCB thing: I don't care much about the color but people knew it was yellow from the IC, so what else is left to discuss?
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It was never discussed in the IC. As of yet, I've never actually formally announced the PCB color.
No one cared about the PCB color until someone mentioned it after GB was closed.
I didn't know some people care about the PCB color so much.
Did the same thing happen to other GBs with PC cases before? I'm really confused.
Can we get a photo of the PCB too, please?
And yes, let's go!!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1BxzXKQ.jpg)
will have the hotswap version on Sunday.
My 2 cents about this whole PCB thing: I don't care much about the color but people knew it was yellow from the IC, so what else is left to discuss?
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It was never discussed in the IC. As of yet, I've never actually formally announced the PCB color.
No one cared about the PCB color until someone mentioned it after GB was closed.
I didn't know some people care about the PCB color so much.
Did the same thing happen to other GBs with PC cases before? I'm really confused.
I vote to stay with yellow since that was what people made the GB decisions based on. I purposely picked plate and weight colors for PC that would go with yellow PCB. I could live with white or black though if I had to.
I vote to stay with yellow since that was what people made the GB decisions based on. I purposely picked plate and weight colors for PC that would go with yellow PCB. I could live with white or black though if I had to.
Where did you ask?
I got a quote back @ 85 euros + VAT & Shipping.
That was for 1.5mm aluminium.
I vote to stay with yellow since that was what people made the GB decisions based on. I purposely picked plate and weight colors for PC that would go with yellow PCB. I could live with white or black though if I had to.
Where did you ask?
I got a quote back @ 85 euros + VAT & Shipping.
That was for 1.5mm aluminium.
I know you didn't quote my message, but from context I'm assuming you might've meant to. I got my quote from lasermaster.co.uk. It was £70 including VAT and Shipping, for 1.5mm brass, so I assume aluminium would be slightly cheaper, maybe £60-65? I think thats around €75 or so, but I'm not quite sure. I'd definitely suggest checking them out if you're interested.
Hi, due to changes in my financial situation, I wanted to ask if it's possible to cancel my order (I've already paid)?
Hi, due to changes in my financial situation, I wanted to ask if it's possible to cancel my order (I've already paid)?I somehow missed the gb due to timezone, maybe I can take your spot. I will shoot u a dm
can i jump in this group buy? i just seen it.
can i jump in this group buy? i just seen it.Im gonna need someone to cover my spot. If you want to hop on to it pm me.
Wait Does This Underglow?
I am very interested in taking someone's spot on this GB. Black or poly preferred. I PM'd some of you, but haven't heard back. Send me a PM if you need someone to tak your spot! Thanks in advance.Ill pm u
I'm putting together the pieces for my build with this case, but I don't know whether I should pick up some plate mounted or PCB mounted stabilizers.
I'm pretty sure the plate supports plate-mounted stabs, but there're these new POM stabs that are PCB-mounted and I'm wondering whether this case/PCB support this kind of mount.
i want to change my option. can i?
Any update is appreciated now of all times. I'm now more worried after hearing about equalz zero situation.The GB just barely finished... Give it some time
To be fair, we're over half way through the production phase.
Any update is appreciated now of all times. I'm now more worried after hearing about equalz zero situation.The GB just barely finished... Give it some time
Update:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zyOZ13Z.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DC8YGdA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/p7pRNdM.jpg)We'll have another major update after two weeks.
- All the aluminum and brass plates have been CNC milled. The PC plates have been finished as well but I didn't get photos from the laser cutting shop.
- The CNC factory is working on the bottom cases right now. I only took some photos with the cut aluminum bricks.
Update:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zyOZ13Z.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DC8YGdA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/p7pRNdM.jpg)We'll have another major update after two weeks.
- All the aluminum and brass plates have been CNC milled. The PC plates have been finished as well but I didn't get photos from the laser cutting shop.
- The CNC factory is working on the bottom cases right now. I only took some photos with the cut aluminum bricks.
Can't wait!
I went with e-black and teal accents. Anyone have any suggestions for keycaps? The teal is very light for light in the pictures, assuming it looks like the photos.
Didn't GMK Delta just end? Hopefully they'll have extras for that black/teal combo. Sounds pretty nice.Can't wait!
I went with e-black and teal accents. Anyone have any suggestions for keycaps? The teal is very light for light in the pictures, assuming it looks like the photos.
GMK Delta / Pulse
Didn't GMK Delta just end? Hopefully they'll have extras for that black/teal combo. Sounds pretty nice.Can't wait!
I went with e-black and teal accents. Anyone have any suggestions for keycaps? The teal is very light for light in the pictures, assuming it looks like the photos.
GMK Delta / Pulse
I was mistaken! The GB is live till December 1. There are a bunch of artisan raffles for it too. I ended up joining on November 6 and forgot about it lol. Here's the link to the GMK Delta GB if you or noideawhatsgoing is interested. Such a fire set.Didn't GMK Delta just end? Hopefully they'll have extras for that black/teal combo. Sounds pretty nice.Can't wait!
I went with e-black and teal accents. Anyone have any suggestions for keycaps? The teal is very light for light in the pictures, assuming it looks like the photos.
GMK Delta / Pulse
Probably ended recently. The deskmat design is fire too.
I was mistaken! The GB is live till December 1. There are a bunch of artisan raffles for it too. I ended up joining on November 6 and forgot about it lol. Here's the link to the GMK Delta GB if you or noideawhatsgoing is interested. Such a fire set.
https://cannonkeys.com/products/gb-gmk-delta
*edit* Oops. That's just the US vendor. :))
Can't wait!
I went with e-black and teal accents. Anyone have any suggestions for keycaps? The teal is very light for light in the pictures, assuming it looks like the photos.
I went with anodised grey and blue mid-section.I think I'm really sad I missed out on this GB. I keep coming back to it. lol. But I feel like ano gray+blue mid would go well with a lot of keysets. Of current GBs, I personally would match the Mito Pegaso available on Drop with that. But depending on the color of the blue, other options you could consider are KAT Space Cadet, GMK Fuyu or GMK Masterpiece (I'm a fan of all of them). But those are all still in IC. mmm... So many choices. Good luck deciding!
Looking for keycap suggestions too. I think I possibly should have gone with teal.
I also have a Dwarf Factory Vinerious artisan for it.
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Update:
- The CNC milling of top cases and middle cases are half done. One side of the CNC milling has been finished. The factory will do the other side next.
- The overall CNC milling is estimated to be completed in January. Everything else should be finished in February.
Really like the board but I'm not in the best spot financially right now, have to give it up.
I ordered full E-white case (WK top-middle-bottom), mid-night green weight, both logos are Kanji, 1 pair 6.25u pcb+E-white plate, 1 pair 7u hotswap pcb+PC plate.
If anyone interest PM me.
I am also trying to let go of mine because I got what I originally wanted(poly 60%). If anyone is interested, send me a PM.
PC Top - Wk no logo - PC Middle - PC Bottom - PC and Aluminum pink 7u plates - Pink key logo weight - 1 hot swap PCB and 1 non hot swap PCB.
Will there be some live builds or streams of this board getting built once it's launched??
I'd like to see how its built before I build this.
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ThanksWill there be some live builds or streams of this board getting built once it's launched??
I'd like to see how its built before I build this.
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The GB was launched months ago... we're all just waiting for them to finish manufacturing and shipping now. I (and I'm sure many others) will be streaming builds.
Do i need a extra plate to go with my extra pcb?
I might in the future want to use a different type of switch with the key 65.
Can it be done without desoldering the switches since I have a extra pcb?
So I'd require another plate incase i did not want to desolder gotchaDo i need a extra plate to go with my extra pcb?
I might in the future want to use a different type of switch with the key 65.
Can it be done without desoldering the switches since I have a extra pcb?
You could order another plate from someone like https://www.laserboost.com/ (https://www.laserboost.com/) but you would need to upload the plate file for the key65
Alright, I'll bite. Anyone have a spot for sale? Shoot me a PM with what you've got and how much.I think there are at least 3-4 people looking to sell their spots. you should check the last 2-3 pages of the thread and contact them.
God I really don't need another board but I regret selling my Leaf60...
I think there are at least 3-4 people looking to sell their spots. you should check the last 2-3 pages of the thread and contact them.
Happy hunting.
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Should we expect shipping in February?No, you should not
More like April, assuming everything goes right.Should we expect shipping in February?No, you should not
More like April, assuming everything goes right.Should we expect shipping in February?No, you should not
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Group-buys have a way of getting delayed due to multiple reasons.More like April, assuming everything goes right.Should we expect shipping in February?No, you should not
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Can I ask where this is coming from? Last update by Senter says everything should be done production in February.
Group-buys have a way of getting delayed due to multiple reasons.More like April, assuming everything goes right.Should we expect shipping in February?No, you should not
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Can I ask where this is coming from? Last update by Senter says everything should be done production in February.
There have been multiple group buys that got delayed in the recent past couple of months.
Given past experience I'm pessimistic of group-buys getting shipped on time.
This group-buy has lots of orders too.
I'm more than happy to eat my words if the GB gets shipped in February. I too would like to get my keyboard as soon as possible.
When I said April, I meant don't get your hopes high.
No offense senter.
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Sorry if this is a newbie question but with the hotswap pcb, can I use 3-pin switches on it?Yes.
Will the hotswap PCB also support the 5 pin switches as well then for this keyboard? Thanks for your help.Sorry if this is a newbie question but with the hotswap pcb, can I use 3-pin switches on it?Yes.
Yes, the photo of the hotswap PCB posted by senter shows that 5 pin switches are supported. It's here:Will the hotswap PCB also support the 5 pin switches as well then for this keyboard? Thanks for your help.Sorry if this is a newbie question but with the hotswap pcb, can I use 3-pin switches on it?Yes.
Update:
- The CNC milling of all aluminum and brass parts has been completed as expected.
- Around 50% of the PC parts have been finished. The factory left the PC parts to the last to mill because they recycle the metal chips and PC parts will pollute the metal chips. The rest PC parts will be milled within two weeks after CNY.
- E-coating and anodizing will be started right after CNY. The milling of PC parts won't affect the e-coating and anodizing.
- Everything is still expected to be finished in February. Shipping will start by the end of February if all goes well. Please note that even if shipping can start by the end of February, it will take around two weeks to ship all the boards out.
I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?
I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?
Let's wait for a real update rather than speculate.
I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?
Let's wait for a real update rather than speculate.
Some of the keyboard factories in Shenzen are halting their production saying their gov told them to so I would be extremely surprised if this one is not.
I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?
I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?
Let's wait for a real update rather than speculate.
I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?
Let's wait for a real update rather than speculate.
Some of the keyboard factories in Shenzen are halting their production saying their gov told them to so I would be extremely surprised if this one is not.
It seems to be every factory in shenzen is now ordered to close down until 2/9, so let the waiting begin and hope, that the people in the affected areas are safe!
any idea if the factory has been started back up yet?
any idea if the factory has been started back up yet?
Not yet, unfortunately. They tried to start but the electric power supply has been cut off.
The estimation of shipping is still one month after the production is fully recovered.
We don't know the exact time but it should be the same or earlier than all the other factories open.
Believe me, the factory owners want to start over more than anyone else.
They'd be willing to take the risk of their life to start manufacturing because if not, the factory could die.
The coronavirus is a disaster. Many restaurants with less abilities to take risks are already broke.
Our factory will do their best to complete the production asap.
I'll keep you updated as always.
Looking for E-White Spot...
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.If you look closely, most of the people requesting the board are fresh accounts. Every now an then, when this thread jumps up to the top of the group buy section a lot of people who weren't on geekhack when it ran find out about it. And because it's a pretty cool board, people want in on it. Simple as that.
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.Because of . . .
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.If you look closely, most of the people requesting the board are fresh accounts. Every now an then, when this thread jumps up to the top of the group buy section a lot of people who weren't on geekhack when it ran find out about it. And because it's a pretty cool board, people want in on it. Simple as that.
yes. I have a Leaf60 and I've got two spots in this one. I don't doubt Foxlab/senter. Its just that it will take time to get back to "normal" for all the factories in china, so this GB might take some additional weeks.why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.
I really wouldn't say its in "limbo", foxlab has done successful runs in the past and most likely has a relationship with the factory manufacturing the board.
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.If you look closely, most of the people requesting the board are fresh accounts. Every now an then, when this thread jumps up to the top of the group buy section a lot of people who weren't on geekhack when it ran find out about it. And because it's a pretty cool board, people want in on it. Simple as that.
I guess, it still seems weird though. I sure as hell wouldn't sell my spot to someone with no pic and few posts though.
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.If you look closely, most of the people requesting the board are fresh accounts. Every now an then, when this thread jumps up to the top of the group buy section a lot of people who weren't on geekhack when it ran find out about it. And because it's a pretty cool board, people want in on it. Simple as that.
I guess, it still seems weird though. I sure as hell wouldn't sell my spot to someone with no pic and few posts though.
It makes sense if you think about it though. Tfue brought mechanical keyboards to a wider audience, so there are a lot of new comers interested in picking up boards from group buys they didn't get a chance to join. Even people that have been in the community but still missed out (me, maybe other people, mostly me) would consider buying such a nice board like this.
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.If you look closely, most of the people requesting the board are fresh accounts. Every now an then, when this thread jumps up to the top of the group buy section a lot of people who weren't on geekhack when it ran find out about it. And because it's a pretty cool board, people want in on it. Simple as that.
I guess, it still seems weird though. I sure as hell wouldn't sell my spot to someone with no pic and few posts though.
looking to sell my spot, order #519 for reference
Interested in trading my e-white with kanji logo (order #454) for an e-white or PC with key logo.
Will pay or invoice the price difference.
Feel free to PM, thanks!
Haha I love both the kanji and key logo, but I cant afford both though :)Interested in trading my e-white with kanji logo (order #454) for an e-white or PC with key logo.
Will pay or invoice the price difference.
Feel free to PM, thanks!
What happened ?? You don't like kanji logo anymore :D
Are factories still down this week?
Are factories still down this week?
The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.
Are factories still down this week?
The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.
Thanks Senter!
Are factories still down this week?
The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.
Thanks Senter!
No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.
Are factories still down this week?
The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.
Thanks Senter!
No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.
That's nice.
Wanted to ask if this have box? just like the leaf60?
Are factories still down this week?
The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.
Thanks Senter!
No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.
That's nice.
Wanted to ask if this have box? just like the leaf60?
Uh, yes? The keyboard shouldn't come in a plastic bag.
Are factories still down this week?
The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.
Thanks Senter!
No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.
That's nice.
Wanted to ask if this have box? just like the leaf60?
Uh, yes? The keyboard shouldn't come in a plastic bag.
Are factories still down this week?
The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.
Thanks Senter!
No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.
Are factories still down this week?
The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.
Thanks Senter!
No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.
That's nice.
Wanted to ask if this have box? just like the leaf60?
Uh, yes? The keyboard shouldn't come in a plastic bag.Are factories still down this week?
The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.
Thanks Senter!
No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.
That's nice.
Wanted to ask if this have box? just like the leaf60?
Uh, yes? The keyboard shouldn't come in a plastic bag.
Of course it will not. I am asking if the packing have branding or just plain box/foam
Update:
1. The anodizing and E-coating workshops have all been opened now.
2. They are working on polishing and sandblasting. The quality looks great. (will get some photos tomorrow)
3. The manufacturing should be finished by the end of this month.
Update:
1. The anodizing and E-coating workshops have all been opened now.
2. They are working on polishing and sandblasting. The quality looks great. (will get some photos tomorrow)
3. The manufacturing should be finished by the end of this month.
Interested in taking someones spot, green case without logo. Solder pcb. Doesn't matter if WK or WKL.
PM me
Update some photos:
Damn!! That PC Senter Piece will look awesome with backlighting. I so wish I had gone with the PC Middle :(
any estimated ship dates or still unknown?
Does the pcb have esd protection?Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.
Does the pcb have esd protection?Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.
I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.
Does the pcb have esd protection?Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.
I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.
I have had 2 PCBs break on me recently so esd protection is something i look for in PCBs now. I would also like to know if the foxlab PCB has esd protection.
Does the pcb have esd protection?Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.
I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.
I have had 2 PCBs break on me recently so esd protection is something i look for in PCBs now. I would also like to know if the foxlab PCB has esd protection.
As far as I'm aware, he's said the PCBs with the PC cases will have ESD protection. It's not necessary with the Alu cases.
Does the pcb have esd protection?Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.
I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.
I have had 2 PCBs break on me recently so esd protection is something i look for in PCBs now. I would also like to know if the foxlab PCB has esd protection.
As far as I'm aware, he's said the PCBs with the PC cases will have ESD protection. It's not necessary with the Alu cases.
Does the pcb have esd protection?Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.
I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.
I have had 2 PCBs break on me recently so esd protection is something i look for in PCBs now. I would also like to know if the foxlab PCB has esd protection.
As far as I'm aware, he's said the PCBs with the PC cases will have ESD protection. It's not necessary with the Alu cases.
Does the pcb have esd protection?Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.
I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.
I have had 2 PCBs break on me recently so esd protection is something i look for in PCBs now. I would also like to know if the foxlab PCB has esd protection.
As far as I'm aware, he's said the PCBs with the PC cases will have ESD protection. It's not necessary with the Alu cases.
Since when is plastic more conductive than alu
Update some photos:
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Is there a typing test by any chance? Would love to hear how the board sounds :)
We'll be lucky if this thing even ships during times like these.In most places, United States for sure, manufacturing and logistics (shipping) are considered essential businesses.
We'll be lucky if this thing even ships during times like these.
Update:
1. All the anodization has been finished.
2. The E-coating has been finished for most colors.
3. All the manufacturing will be finished in 2 days except for E-pink.
4. QC should take around 10 days or so by our estimation.
5. We're looking to start the shipping mid-April.
6. The shipping to the USA is still possible through DHL. I'll confirm the shipping to other countries in the following days.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PeVXwBL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gm5sQAd.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7xjiaoh.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/f3urW4B.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/e4SHUyf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pWgJqw3.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WKlGmp9.jpg)
It was extremely difficult to push everything moving forward as scheduled.
Due to the CNY and COVID-19, This GB has spent the highest turnaround time for us in the 4 years since we joined the community.
The wait is almost over. Thank you all for your patience.
Update:
1. All the anodization has been finished.
2. The E-coating has been finished for most colors.
3. All the manufacturing will be finished in 2 days except for E-pink.
4. QC should take around 10 days or so by our estimation.
5. We're looking to start the shipping mid-April.
6. The shipping to the USA is still possible through DHL. I'll confirm the shipping to other countries in the following days.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PeVXwBL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gm5sQAd.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7xjiaoh.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/f3urW4B.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/e4SHUyf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pWgJqw3.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WKlGmp9.jpg)
It was extremely difficult to push everything moving forward as scheduled.
Due to the CNY and COVID-19, This GB has spent the highest turnaround time for us in the 4 years since we joined the community.
The wait is almost over. Thank you all for your patience.
Update:E-pink included in mid April releasing of items? I hope you will also test the fitting of e-colored plate and case.
1. All the anodization has been finished.
2. The E-coating has been finished for most colors.
3. All the manufacturing will be finished in 2 days except for E-pink.
4. QC should take around 10 days or so by our estimation.
5. We're looking to start the shipping mid-April.
6. The shipping to the USA is still possible through DHL. I'll confirm the shipping to other countries in the following days.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PeVXwBL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gm5sQAd.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7xjiaoh.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/f3urW4B.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/e4SHUyf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pWgJqw3.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WKlGmp9.jpg)
It was extremely difficult to push everything moving forward as scheduled.
Due to the CNY and COVID-19, This GB has spent the highest turnaround time for us in the 4 years since we joined the community.
The wait is almost over. Thank you all for your patience.
Damn, looking at these photos makes me regret not getting an anodized green board. Looks stunning. Great job, senter.
The aluminum boards look great! Especially those keylogo weights! Any pictures of the PC boards?
I just received an email about address confirmation which will then become a PP invoice for the shipping cost from a “runninghack@gmail.com”, can you confirm that this is you? And maybe list out the email accounts you might use for PayPal invoicing, this way we know which ones are real.
I just received an email about address confirmation which will then become a PP invoice for the shipping cost from a “runninghack@gmail.com”, can you confirm that this is you? And maybe list out the email accounts you might use for PayPal invoicing, this way we know which ones are real.Senter's used the same email address to send out news re: Key65 before, it's legit
Which country you are and how much sf? What courier?
I havent receive invoice yet.
Senter said shipping will start mid April. Wait for confirmation before paying.
I have PC and E-yellow coming and I would be super excited to see a picture of one or both of those! ;D
Looks awesome! Thank you for the update. Any photos of poly parts?
Has anyone else not received an email asking for address verification? You guys got me nervous now.Not yet receive it.
Has anyone else not received an email asking for address verification? You guys got me nervous now.Not yet receive it.
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I guess it would depend which batch you're in (I was batch 3, the last to be invoiced originally); or which country.
I don't have one yet either.
I guess it would depend which batch you're in (I was batch 3, the last to be invoiced originally); or which country.
I don't have one yet either.
Same here, I'm in 3rd batch and haven't gotten confirmation email for address yet.
Could be invoiced based upon package completion. From a logistics stand point it makes sense to send the address verification after you’ve finished qc for that specific order, regardless of position on sheet.
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I guess it would depend which batch you're in (I was batch 3, the last to be invoiced originally); or which country.
I don't have one yet either.
Same here, I'm in 3rd batch and haven't gotten confirmation email for address yet.
I was in the first batch of orders to be invoiced and I have not received anything yet, that being said, I ordered a full PC board and it seems like most of the people getting address confirmation emails have ordered the alu variants.
Is there any way of potentially still getting one of these? I know its a long shot but thought maybe a list for cancelled orders or something. It's a long shot i know but i just love these and the fact its my namesake is just perfect.
Is there any way of potentially still getting one of these? I know its a long shot but thought maybe a list for cancelled orders or something. It's a long shot i know but i just love these and the fact its my namesake is just perfect.
will the pcb be compatible with VIA by any chance?
When you get an address confirmation do you also get a shipping notification. Or is that coming after we get everyone confirmed?
When you get an address confirmation do you also get a shipping notification. Or is that coming after we get everyone confirmed?
When you get an address confirmation do you also get a shipping notification. Or is that coming after we get everyone confirmed?
Or until you've paid your shipping invoice...
Repost_
Looking for spot that's Full PolyCarb with Key logos on weight and top corner with full brass options in clear e-coat.
If someone is willing to trade their spot please message me! :)
Orders:
273
281
460
527
551
614
696
730
If they were local that would be DOPE but alas they are the only orders full poly carb with key logos in brass. My preferred buy.
Just hoping by chance one of them becomes available.
guys~ it's happening!
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20633
guys~ it's happening!Oh ****, this is almost the exact same config that I've ordered. Looks great! :D Can't wait.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20633
can't wait!!!Maybe not since you can reuse it.
are we getting two of those silicon pads between the plate and pcb if we got an extra pcb I wonder?
can't wait!!!Maybe not since you can reuse it.
are we getting two of those silicon pads between the plate and pcb if we got an extra pcb I wonder?
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You only mentioned having extra pcb.can't wait!!!Maybe not since you can reuse it.
are we getting two of those silicon pads between the plate and pcb if we got an extra pcb I wonder?
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hard to reuse it without desoldering the pcb to get at it, which kind of defeats the purpose of having the extra plate and pcb.
rip the green orders :(
I got an email saying that boards with ano green top/middle did not pass QC because of bad color match, and offering several options (replacement of either the mismatched parts or the whole board with different colors or poly, refund, etc). Was disappointing, but senter's email is 100% professional and absolutely the right way to do this if the green pieces can't be remade to match more closely -- full props to him and the Foxlabs team in a difficult situation. I picked refund as the green + brass options were the whole reason I joined this gb. GL to everyone staying in!
Weird. I thought the green ones came out great on the fab photos.
I got an email saying that boards with ano green top/middle did not pass QC because of bad color match, and offering several options (replacement of either the mismatched parts or the whole board with different colors or poly, refund, etc). Was disappointing, but senter's email is 100% professional and absolutely the right way to do this if the green pieces can't be remade to match more closely -- full props to him and the Foxlabs team in a difficult situation. I picked refund as the green + brass options were the whole reason I joined this gb. GL to everyone staying in!
rip the green orders :(
Those who got extra plate+pcb will have extra foam/insulation too?rip the green orders :(
The dark green anodizing looks great on individual parts.
There are color differences on some cases though.
If you didn't order dark green top+bottom, then you're not affected.
Only 14 people ordered dark green top+bottom and we have 10 good ones.
The other 4 cases with green top+bottom have relatively more apparent color differences that I don't want to sell.
Two buyers dropped their spots. Two buyers changed the colors. So right now anyone who bought dark green parts is good.
Anyone has gotten an invoice for shipping yet?
I did not :(
Invoice has been paid, I AM READY :D
Invoice has been paid, I AM READY :D
assuming you got your shipping invoice??
Invoice has been paid, I AM READY :D
assuming you got your shipping invoice??
I did yes-- am in NA. I'd bet a lot of people elsewhere may have to wait a bit longer though :/
Likely by invoice batch. I know I was in the last batch so hopefully not lol.
Guys, relax. Ano keebs were finished first, so people who ordered the anodised cases got invoiced for shipping first. E-coated boards will probably be next and then the polycarb versions.
any updates with the QC? Almost ready for shipping?
Guys, relax. Ano keebs were finished first, so people who ordered the anodised cases got invoiced for shipping first. E-coated boards will probably be next and then the polycarb versions.
Guys, relax. Ano keebs were finished first, so people who ordered the anodised cases got invoiced for shipping first. E-coated boards will probably be next and then the polycarb versions.
Everything has been finished except for packing and shipping.
Please find some photos here (https://imgur.com/a/hjM2Y14)
any updates with the QC? Almost ready for shipping?
QC has been completed.
We are still assembling and packing individual kits though.
Please find some photos here (https://imgur.com/a/hjM2Y14)
You'll receive the invoice for shipping soon if you haven't.
Guys, relax. Ano keebs were finished first, so people who ordered the anodised cases got invoiced for shipping first. E-coated boards will probably be next and then the polycarb versions.
Everything has been finished except for packing and shipping.
Does this mean all invoices have been sent? Becaus I havn't recieved one yet
Oh man, I only got on this forum just recently and I missed this gem :( This looks super dope. Is it too early to ask if there will ever be a second round of this magnificent looking kit?^^
Oh man, I only got on this forum just recently and I missed this gem :( This looks super dope. Is it too early to ask if there will ever be a second round of this magnificent looking kit?^^
Red is looking pretty maroon in that photo... Slightly worried about that.If You End Up Not Liking Your Red One I'd Love To Buy It :) :-*
Senter said he never runs a round 2 unless he's made changes or imrpovements.
Red is looking pretty maroon in that photo... Slightly worried about that.If You End Up Not Liking Your Red One I'd Love To Buy It :) :-*
ThanksRed is looking pretty maroon in that photo... Slightly worried about that.If You End Up Not Liking Your Red One I'd Love To Buy It :) :-*
I'll PM you if that turns out to be the case.
You'll never walk aloneEvery time I get an email I hope it's the shipping invoice but it never is :(
I see I'm not alone.
Worry not my friends, I'm also there with you.You'll never walk aloneEvery time I get an email I hope it's the shipping invoice but it never is :(
I see I'm not alone.
many of us are eagerly waiting to see that precious shipping invoice!
I saw someone say that the PC boards will be the last invoiced for shipping. Any truth to this?Can't say for sure, but I'd say probably not. Kinda feels like they're invoicing as they finish packing orders. You could be invoiced today, tomorrow or whenever they finish all the packing.
boards are making their way to people in China, there's been a few posts in zfrontier with build pics.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21033
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20949
Holy ****. Whoever planned this setup in advance is a genius. That teal bottom with the teal accents. Damn.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/d02r4Ij.png)
I wonder what is the status of sorting. I havent received shipping invoice yet.
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Oh I thought under 500.I wonder what is the status of sorting. I havent received shipping invoice yet.
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700+ orders to sort through, it'll take a bit of time. I'm hoping I'll get the shipping invoice next week sometime.
Just to confirm, the shipping invoice email will be from the "runninghack" address?Presumably, yeah.
Were the ANSI plate files ever uploaded? Thinking of cutting a POM plate.
Were the ANSI plate files ever uploaded? Thinking of cutting a POM plate.
I don't recall seeing them; I had an ISO one cut, so I'm hoping that it fits correctly! It's a shame that it's not anodized, since I couldn't do it to match.
Oh I thought under 500.I wonder what is the status of sorting. I havent received shipping invoice yet.
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700+ orders to sort through, it'll take a bit of time. I'm hoping I'll get the shipping invoice next week sometime.
Prioritizing local shipping is best option to lessen the numbers. Maybe they did that. If I only figure it out, I addressed it to my chinese friend.
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got my shipping invoice for a pc order. came from paypal, not from runninghack email.
seems like a batch went out! I paid my shipping invoice as well.
Damn that white one on the youtube link looks phenomenal.
Youtube link?
First one is out on Youtube:
Were the ANSI plate files ever uploaded? Thinking of cutting a POM plate.
I don't recall seeing them; I had an ISO one cut, so I'm hoping that it fits correctly! It's a shame that it's not anodized, since I couldn't do it to match.
What kind of company do I look for that can cut a plate for me? I would like to get an ISO plate as well but not sure where to start
Hi guys, I'm sending out emails for confirming shipping addresses. By default I will used the shipping address in the google form. However some people thought I would use the shipping address on PayPal. Also, people keep messaging me for changing the address due to covid-19. Please DO NOT reply my email if your address is correct.Thanks for the update
Right now we're assembling the kits each by each, putting together everything in the boxes. It takes time. We've assembled more than 100 kits so far and can assemble at most 40 kits each day. So you get an idea how soon we can ship all the kits out.
Hi guys, I'm sending out emails for confirming shipping addresses. By default I will used the shipping address in the google form. However some people thought I would use the shipping address on PayPal. Also, people keep messaging me for changing the address due to covid-19. Please DO NOT reply my email if your address is correct.
Right now we're assembling the kits each by each, putting together everything in the boxes. It takes time. We've assembled more than 100 kits so far and can assemble at most 40 kits each day. So you get an idea how soon we can ship all the kits out.
For the US People, what shipping service will you be using?
DHL Express to Philippines also?For the US People, what shipping service will you be using?
DHL
Sorry to revive this old comment, but would the WS2812 strips be supported in qmk? Where on the PCB would I add them?Is pcb compatible with tx65? Or is it compatible with other center usb pcb? becuase i want to rgb led
I don't think so.
WS2812 LED strips are not that difficult to add.
got my shipping confirmation! woop woopMe too. Waiting for invoice.
Do I just reply to the shipping confirmation email if the address on it is wrong?That's what I did, since the email said don't reply if the address is correct.
Were the ANSI plate files ever uploaded? Thinking of cutting a POM plate.
Anybody from USA get a shipping invoice? Is it still the estimated $40? Wondering if prices increased at all with DHL due to covid. I saw they have a surcharge on time definite shipments so I think normal shipments are the same just delayed. Curious tho.
Anybody from USA get a shipping invoice? Is it still the estimated $40? Wondering if prices increased at all with DHL due to covid. I saw they have a surcharge on time definite shipments so I think normal shipments are the same just delayed. Curious tho.
Oregonian here - my invoice was $62!
Anybody from USA get a shipping invoice? Is it still the estimated $40? Wondering if prices increased at all with DHL due to covid. I saw they have a surcharge on time definite shipments so I think normal shipments are the same just delayed. Curious tho.
Oregonian here - my invoice was $62!
also oregonian. sames. Did anyone in this batch get a tracking #?
also oregonian. sames. Did anyone in this batch get a tracking #?
Maybe waiting for pickup by the courier.also oregonian. sames. Did anyone in this batch get a tracking #?
I was hoping paypal would show it, but it doesn't appear there is one. I'm not at all worried, though. This is my third board from senter and foxlabs, they always arrive pretty quickly from invoice!
I'm looking to sell #349 at cost. At this point in time, a custom keeb is a luxury I cannot afford :(where can i get more information?
The opening post has a google doc with order information.I'm looking to sell #349 at cost. At this point in time, a custom keeb is a luxury I cannot afford :(where can i get more information?
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Maybe waiting for pickup by the courier.also oregonian. sames. Did anyone in this batch get a tracking #?
I was hoping paypal would show it, but it doesn't appear there is one. I'm not at all worried, though. This is my third board from senter and foxlabs, they always arrive pretty quickly from invoice!
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Damn 71 ****ing USD to CanadaHoly Smokes, you got me terrified of what my shipping invoice to New York City is going to be :'(
Damn 71 ****ing USD to CanadaHoly Smokes, you got me terrified of what my shipping invoice to New York City is going to be :'(
Damn 71 ****ing USD to Canada
Any shipping invoices to the EU yet?
121 AUD to Melbourne.
Hopefully getting my invoice soon! I was in one of the last batches afaik, so it may be some time. I assume once the packages are fully sent tracking will be added.Not necessarily, I'm order 612 and still got a shipping invoice a few days ago.
Yes would lov ea DHL tracking number so i dont leave this thing out on the front step all day....Don't worry I'll take care of it for you :-*
Paid $65 to USA, so it sucks for all of us
121 AUD to Melbourne.
Hello fellow Aussie - 74USD/122AUD to NSW.
121 AUD to Melbourne.
Hello fellow Aussie - 74USD/122AUD to NSW.
Holly... That is almost 1/3 of the cost of the board... I am in Melbourne too and I haven't received the shipping invoice yet, only the address confirmation.
Man you got hit, I only paid $62 to NSW.121 AUD to Melbourne.
Hello fellow Aussie - 74USD/122AUD to NSW.
Man you got hit, I only paid $62 to NSW.121 AUD to Melbourne.
Hello fellow Aussie - 74USD/122AUD to NSW.
Yes would lov ea DHL tracking number so i dont leave this thing out on the front step all day....
Yes would lov ea DHL tracking number so i dont leave this thing out on the front step all day....
Has anyone gotten a tracking number yet?
I’m sure it’s a lot of effort to update every single order with tracking. Once you pay the invoice, give it two weeks and if nothing arrives then message senter. Also if you make an account with DHL, I’m pretty sure it will detect when you are getting a shipment to your address. It will then notify you about it. Idk if anyone else has experienced this as well?
I’m sure it’s a lot of effort to update every single order with tracking. Once you pay the invoice, give it two weeks and if nothing arrives then message senter. Also if you make an account with DHL, I’m pretty sure it will detect when you are getting a shipment to your address. It will then notify you about it. Idk if anyone else has experienced this as well?
Bit worried, none of my packages are making it to my house right now. No update on something that departed on March 15th from the US and no update on something that arrived on April 17th in Germany.
Hope that by the time my kit ships those issues are resolved.
I am still waiting for my shipping invoice. Is anyone still in the same position as me?
I am still waiting for my shipping invoice. Is anyone still in the same position as me?
I am still waiting for my shipping invoice. Is anyone still in the same position as me?
Yep, I’m still in the same boat as you. :)
Trying to be patient and failing miserably!!
I am still waiting for my shipping invoice. Is anyone still in the same position as me?
Yep, I’m still in the same boat as you. :)
Trying to be patient and failing miserably!!
Wait until you get your tracking :D
That'll be horrible! :D
I am still waiting for my shipping invoice. Is anyone still in the same position as me?Yup. I'm really curious how much will shipping to Poland cost.
I am at Switzerland, I am wondering too.I paid 116USD for two kits to CH...
anyone get tracking numbers yet?
anyone get tracking numbers yet?
I haven't, others might have though. Not sure. I was invoiced sometime last week.
Paid mine last week, still haven’t gotten a tracking number >.< the wait is killing meanyone get tracking numbers yet?
I haven't, others might have though. Not sure. I was invoiced sometime last week.
yea, i paid for my invoice on Sunday, but i believe some other people were invoiced before that, so hoping they got tracking numbers.
Paid mine last week, still haven’t gotten a tracking number >.< the wait is killing meanyone get tracking numbers yet?
I haven't, others might have though. Not sure. I was invoiced sometime last week.
yea, i paid for my invoice on Sunday, but i believe some other people were invoiced before that, so hoping they got tracking numbers.
Just filled up tracking numbers for shipped orders. We don't get the tracking numbers immediately after we ship the packages out. We're using a Hongkong DHL proxy. The packages are shipped to their Hongkong warehouse first. The DHL proxy will give us the tracking numbers only after they received and processed the packages. They are doing it much slower than normal.
Still have not received my invoice D: (Chicago)
Check your spam folder just incase. I just noticed my invoice in there. It was sent and due 4 days ago. Gonna have to pm senter about it.
Check your spam folder just incase. I just noticed my invoice in there. It was sent and due 4 days ago. Gonna have to pm senter about it.
Thanks, yeah i have been vigilant, still no dice :(
But, i was pretty far down in the order numbers, so maybe just last on the list.
thanks senter. just got my traccking number.
thanks senter. just got my traccking number.
How did you receive it? Separate email?
Got an email with a tracking number today, checked the shipping status and it's already at my local depot. Keep an eye out people, it could arrive before you get your shipping notification.
First hundred orders and still no shipping invoice"... sitting, waiting wishing, ..." I pretty much feel the same way, as you do - nevertheless: senter has never made the impression of being lazy - we'll get our kits, when they're ready to be shipped
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thanks senter. just got my traccking number.
How did you receive it? Separate email?
Comes as an email from paypal
I haven't gotten my invoice yet either.
Haven’t checked this thread in a while, is there anything worth reading through that I missed or is it just 20 pages of complaining about shipping cost and “invoice/tracking number when???” posts?
Speaking of, found a few more posts on zfrontier with a few different combinations. PC is lookin goooood.
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190Show Image(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190Show Image(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
It doesn't look like it's actually cut wrong, just some leftovers. Though I'll be using the alu plate most likely.
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190Show Image(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
Speaking of, found a few more posts on zfrontier with a few different combinations. PC is lookin goooood.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21317
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21476
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21377
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21277
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21278
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190Show Image(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
He also mentioned regretting getting the kanji blocker for the top due to how rough the cut appears to be. I hope it doesn't turn out that way for everyone's tops.
Speaking of, found a few more posts on zfrontier with a few different combinations. PC is lookin goooood.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21317
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21476
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21377
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21277
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21278
PC looking hella sleek. But I kinda regret getting the WKL top though. The regular one looks so clean!
Looking to sell my ewhite key 65. Order 567. Haven't yet received my shipping invoice so maybe I can change it. Really need money right now. Discord is kem92#4771
Speaking of, found a few more posts on zfrontier with a few different combinations. PC is lookin goooood.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21317
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21476
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21377
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21277
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21278
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190Show Image(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
He also mentioned regretting getting the kanji blocker for the top due to how rough the cut appears to be. I hope it doesn't turn out that way for everyone's tops.
Y I K E S that is disappointing. I also got e-white with kanji fingers crossed for everyone.
Looks like it is not deep enough to infilled.Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190Show Image(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
He also mentioned regretting getting the kanji blocker for the top due to how rough the cut appears to be. I hope it doesn't turn out that way for everyone's tops.
Y I K E S that is disappointing. I also got e-white with kanji fingers crossed for everyone.
I'm thinking of getting some enamel paint and painting it in just in case it's as bad as it looks. Should be able to cover it up and add some value to the board too.
Looks like it is not deep enough to infilled.Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190Show Image(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
He also mentioned regretting getting the kanji blocker for the top due to how rough the cut appears to be. I hope it doesn't turn out that way for everyone's tops.
Y I K E S that is disappointing. I also got e-white with kanji fingers crossed for everyone.
I'm thinking of getting some enamel paint and painting it in just in case it's as bad as it looks. Should be able to cover it up and add some value to the board too.
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Looks like it is not deep enough to infilled.Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190Show Image(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
He also mentioned regretting getting the kanji blocker for the top due to how rough the cut appears to be. I hope it doesn't turn out that way for everyone's tops.
Y I K E S that is disappointing. I also got e-white with kanji fingers crossed for everyone.
I'm thinking of getting some enamel paint and painting it in just in case it's as bad as it looks. Should be able to cover it up and add some value to the board too.
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I'll try my luck I guess. Fingers crossed that it's just an isolated case.
Same here, same in Philly, not received my invoice, only got my confirmation address email :(Still have not received my invoice D: (Chicago)
Same here - i only got my address confirmation email. In Philly
any idea when the key65 will be on QMK, or possibly VIA?I thought it already was on qmk, but just checked and it's not. That's a bit of a concern, hopefully it's up soon.
Just got my tracking number this morning.
For anyone interested I got the address confirmation on 4/23, and the shipping invoice on 4/26.
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Address confirmation arrived on the 24th, still no invoice tho.
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.
How long has it been in that state? I'm sure the logistics of getting packages out of Hong Kong, even DHL, are pretty challenging. My 2 cents is that anything less than a three days is probably the current normal.Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.
Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
How long has it been in that state? I'm sure the logistics of getting packages out of Hong Kong, even DHL, are pretty challenging. My 2 cents is that anything less than a three days is probably the current normal.Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.
Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
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How long has it been in that state? I'm sure the logistics of getting packages out of Hong Kong, even DHL, are pretty challenging. My 2 cents is that anything less than a three days is probably the current normal.Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.
Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
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Since April 28th now. Hopefully some movement soon :/
Haven’t checked this thread in a while, is there anything worth reading through that I missed or is it just 20 pages of complaining about shipping cost and “invoice/tracking number when???” posts?
I'm in the last batch and got my shipping invoice today. $71 USD to Germany. I hope this package arrives, unlike the others I've been ordering recently.
Pic's or it didn't happenI'm in the last batch and got my shipping invoice today. $71 USD to Germany. I hope this package arrives, unlike the others I've been ordering recently.
I'm in Sweden and my package arrived today. Left Hong Kong on May 1st, arrived in Germany yesterday, and delivered to me today. So I wouldn't worry about it :]
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.
Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
Mine is out for delivery today :eek:Please post pics!
How long has it been in that state? I'm sure the logistics of getting packages out of Hong Kong, even DHL, are pretty challenging. My 2 cents is that anything less than a three days is probably the current normal.Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.
Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
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Since April 28th now. Hopefully some movement soon :/
I recently got a package through hong kong dhl and it was the same as yours for about a week. Things are just very slow right now with China and Hong Kong Dhl and they are over loaded and it's taking time to move the packages from China to Hong Kong for them to ship out and for the tracking to update.
Huh, I just got notification from DHL that mine was picked up, had previously been in 'shipment information received' since the second. Hopefully yours also gets updated.Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.
Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
yes mines been sitting in HK since the 28th
My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening pictures
https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9 (https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TSwbaxm.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OmgqxaR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kGckrVL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JowISMJ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0pfuGEy.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J3SizEY.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qlfMcqQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BMOVofi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tNjczc1.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mlLLjqO.jpg)
Huh, I just got notification from DHL that mine was picked up, had previously been in 'shipment information received' since the second. Hopefully yours also gets updated.Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.
Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
yes mines been sitting in HK since the 28th
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My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening pictures
https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9 (https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TSwbaxm.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OmgqxaR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kGckrVL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JowISMJ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0pfuGEy.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J3SizEY.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qlfMcqQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BMOVofi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tNjczc1.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mlLLjqO.jpg)
Your board is similar to my order ;D. How do you like the key logo top in person?
Yep, second of may, so it's moving along. Just got an update that it will be delivered by Friday, although my experience with DHL Express leads me to think it might be sooner.Huh, I just got notification from DHL that mine was picked up, had previously been in 'shipment information received' since the second. Hopefully yours also gets updated.Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.
Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
yes mines been sitting in HK since the 28th
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Since 2nd of May? seems like it is going through processing - hopefully mine updates soon. Fingers crossed. Seeing that many others have their packages in a similar state gives me hope.
Heads up to anyone else who emailed to change their shipping address that mine was not changed to the one I gave even though I got a confirmation email back.
Still no shipping invoice here :'(
Yep, second of may, so it's moving along. Just got an update that it will be delivered by Friday, although my experience with DHL Express leads me to think it might be sooner.Huh, I just got notification from DHL that mine was picked up, had previously been in 'shipment information received' since the second. Hopefully yours also gets updated.Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.
Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
yes mines been sitting in HK since the 28th
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Since 2nd of May? seems like it is going through processing - hopefully mine updates soon. Fingers crossed. Seeing that many others have their packages in a similar state gives me hope.
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I can't seem to find the qmk firmware for this board.
Does anyone have it?
I asked the folks on the qmk discord channel, and they have not yet received a pull request for it. They said it typically takes around a week to merge after a PR, so might be a bit until the fw is readyI can't seem to find the qmk firmware for this board.
Does anyone have it?
I ddn'tt see the board in the QMK GitHub repository as of yesterday, but I might have mussed it.
My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening picturesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ejxgY5k_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9 (https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TSwbaxm.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OmgqxaR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kGckrVL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JowISMJ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0pfuGEy.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J3SizEY.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qlfMcqQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BMOVofi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tNjczc1.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mlLLjqO.jpg)
Heads up to anyone else who emailed to change their shipping address that mine was not changed to the one I gave even though I got a confirmation email back.
My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening picturesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ejxgY5k_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9 (https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TSwbaxm.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OmgqxaR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kGckrVL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JowISMJ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0pfuGEy.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J3SizEY.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qlfMcqQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BMOVofi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tNjczc1.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mlLLjqO.jpg)
My key65 was just delivered!It looks great! Thanks for sharing photos.
Some initial opening picturesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ejxgY5k_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9 (https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TSwbaxm.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OmgqxaR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kGckrVL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JowISMJ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0pfuGEy.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J3SizEY.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qlfMcqQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BMOVofi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tNjczc1.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mlLLjqO.jpg)
I did not use it...didn’t see a point and I’ve never used one before. Maybe someone else can chip in on it’s benefits.My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening picturesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ejxgY5k_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9 (https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TSwbaxm.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OmgqxaR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kGckrVL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JowISMJ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0pfuGEy.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J3SizEY.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qlfMcqQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BMOVofi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tNjczc1.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mlLLjqO.jpg)
Did you end up using the rubber sheet in between the PCB and plate? What purpose would the rubber sheet serve?
Still no shipping invoice here :'(Same with me. I got address confirmation on 24th.
Can you send the keymap file and link?I did not use it...didn’t see a point and I’ve never used one before. Maybe someone else can chip in on it’s benefits.My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening picturesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ejxgY5k_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9 (https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TSwbaxm.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OmgqxaR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kGckrVL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JowISMJ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0pfuGEy.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J3SizEY.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qlfMcqQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BMOVofi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tNjczc1.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mlLLjqO.jpg)
Did you end up using the rubber sheet in between the PCB and plate? What purpose would the rubber sheet serve?
And yes it did come with gloves and the key map is pretty basic.
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$69 shipping to Poland. Oof. Now the wait begins.It takes more than a week before it reaches us from shipper. So I guess no need to disinfect it. Just throw the outer box once it arrived.
Loving the pics. Keep them coming. What do you do with the alcohol pads? Are you supposed to disinfect the board with them?
Heads up to anyone else who emailed to change their shipping address that mine was not changed to the one I gave even though I got a confirmation email back.
It serve as a sound dampener and to reduce case ping further in a thin metal case like the Alu one. It's not an issue with a PC case and PC plate. If you're going use silent switches, this is a must.My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening picturesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ejxgY5k_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9 (https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TSwbaxm.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OmgqxaR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kGckrVL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JowISMJ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0pfuGEy.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J3SizEY.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qlfMcqQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BMOVofi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tNjczc1.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mlLLjqO.jpg)
Did you end up using the rubber sheet in between the PCB and plate? What purpose would the rubber sheet serve?
In the build guide (https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20633), the stab wire for the enter key is facing upward. I'm assuming this is the solder version of the PCB in the guide. My partner got the hotswap version and the wire is oriented the downwards, but the foam doesn't account for this. We had to cut the notch in order for it to fit well, otherwise the wire and foam would get in each other's way.
Question for those with the hotswap version (and maybe solder version is the same). I'm hoping that this is a issue that will be resolved with the QMK file, but does the key above the right arrow do anything out of the box? It doesn't register anything on switch hitter for us. I noticed that some keys were also switched around (~ is keyed to ESC, while home is keyed to ~), so I'm hoping that the lack of an action is just a flashing issue and not a busted hotswap socket as there doesn't appear to be anything physically wrong with it.
In the build guide (https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20633), the stab wire for the enter key is facing upward. I'm assuming this is the solder version of the PCB in the guide. My partner got the hotswap version and the wire is oriented the downwards, but the foam doesn't account for this. We had to cut the notch in order for it to fit well, otherwise the wire and foam would get in each other's way.
Question for those with the hotswap version (and maybe solder version is the same). I'm hoping that this is a issue that will be resolved with the QMK file, but does the key above the right arrow do anything out of the box? It doesn't register anything on switch hitter for us. I noticed that some keys were also switched around (~ is keyed to ESC, while home is keyed to ~), so I'm hoping that the lack of an action is just a flashing issue and not a busted hotswap socket as there doesn't appear to be anything physically wrong with it.
Senter finally added the hex files. I hope soon it will be compatible with VIA like the Leaf60.Same, I'll try to add VIA support manually once it's on qmk.
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What kind of screws are those on the bottom holding the board together? Hex?
Typing test! This thing sounds amazing :thumb:
FYI I had to add foam under the pcb to stop it from shorting. Other than that, smooth build.
Decided to just bite the bullet and port this to VIA myself.Please do share the tutorial
Looks like it's working well for my really sloppy job.
I recieved mine after getting my address changed, so I wouldn't be too worried.Heads up to anyone else who emailed to change their shipping address that mine was not changed to the one I gave even though I got a confirmation email back.
Are you saying even though the confirmation email had stated your new address they still shipped to your old one?
This is worrisome... My old address is in another country. I really hope he got it correct.
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Don't think it really needs any words.
Typing test! This thing sounds amazing :thumb:
FYI I had to add foam under the pcb to stop it from shorting. Other than that, smooth build.
So first a couple of pics, don’t mind the key caps, they’re temporary until I get some nicer group buy ones delivered...
Board looks amazing, I love it. However, I didn’t put in the dampening thing since it’s PC (in reality I actually forgot til after I finished soldering but decided it’s okay since it’s PC), and now the keyboard doesn’t work. Tested it right after soldering and was fine, so I’m guessing like someone said above it’s because I didn’t use the sound dampener. So now I have to desolder anyways :)
So first a couple of pics, don’t mind the key caps, they’re temporary until I get some nicer group buy ones delivered...
Board looks amazing, I love it. However, I didn’t put in the dampening thing since it’s PC (in reality I actually forgot til after I finished soldering but decided it’s okay since it’s PC), and now the keyboard doesn’t work. Tested it right after soldering and was fine, so I’m guessing like someone said above it’s because I didn’t use the sound dampener. So now I have to desolder anyways :)
Wait what??!!!!
So it was tested right after soldering, before you put it inside the case? And it worked?
But after you fully assembled it doesnt work???
Can you please elaborate with more details?
So first a couple of pics, don’t mind the key caps, they’re temporary until I get some nicer group buy ones delivered...
Board looks amazing, I love it. However, I didn’t put in the dampening thing since it’s PC (in reality I actually forgot til after I finished soldering but decided it’s okay since it’s PC), and now the keyboard doesn’t work. Tested it right after soldering and was fine, so I’m guessing like someone said above it’s because I didn’t use the sound dampener. So now I have to desolder anyways :)
Wait what??!!!!
So it was tested right after soldering, before you put it inside the case? And it worked?
But after you fully assembled it doesnt work???
Can you please elaborate with more details?
Not sure what exactly is wrong, maybe a bad soldering job or something? I'm gonna desolder and use the include rubber gasket between the pcb and the plate and see if that fixes the issue. The keyboard works when I first plug it in, but if I press to hard in the center area, it will stop responding. But every key was working fine when I tested it after soldering.
So first a couple of pics, don’t mind the key caps, they’re temporary until I get some nicer group buy ones delivered...
Board looks amazing, I love it. However, I didn’t put in the dampening thing since it’s PC (in reality I actually forgot til after I finished soldering but decided it’s okay since it’s PC), and now the keyboard doesn’t work. Tested it right after soldering and was fine, so I’m guessing like someone said above it’s because I didn’t use the sound dampener. So now I have to desolder anyways :)
Wait what??!!!!
So it was tested right after soldering, before you put it inside the case? And it worked?
But after you fully assembled it doesnt work???
Can you please elaborate with more details?
Not sure what exactly is wrong, maybe a bad soldering job or something? I'm gonna desolder and use the include rubber gasket between the pcb and the plate and see if that fixes the issue. The keyboard works when I first plug it in, but if I press to hard in the center area, it will stop responding. But every key was working fine when I tested it after soldering.
It is because of the reset button at the back of PCB. It touches the back case. I read in zfrontier, they suggest to clip it or desolder the button.
So first a couple of pics, don’t mind the key caps, they’re temporary until I get some nicer group buy ones delivered...
Board looks amazing, I love it. However, I didn’t put in the dampening thing since it’s PC (in reality I actually forgot til after I finished soldering but decided it’s okay since it’s PC), and now the keyboard doesn’t work. Tested it right after soldering and was fine, so I’m guessing like someone said above it’s because I didn’t use the sound dampener. So now I have to desolder anyways :)
Wait what??!!!!
So it was tested right after soldering, before you put it inside the case? And it worked?
But after you fully assembled it doesnt work???
Can you please elaborate with more details?
Not sure what exactly is wrong, maybe a bad soldering job or something? I'm gonna desolder and use the include rubber gasket between the pcb and the plate and see if that fixes the issue. The keyboard works when I first plug it in, but if I press to hard in the center area, it will stop responding. But every key was working fine when I tested it after soldering.
interesting, mine is working fine... and the reset button def is not touching the back case, maybe gaskets under the pcb are missing? shuld bring the pcb up higher.
interesting, mine is working fine... and the reset button def is not touching the back case, maybe gaskets under the pcb are missing? shuld bring the pcb up higher.
Did yours come with gaskets? Did you use them? If yes, did they alter the alignment of the USB port on the PCB with the case?
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After uploading the json to the keyboard firmware builder, download the source code.Decided to just bite the bullet and port this to VIA myself.Please do share the tutorial
Looks like it's working well for my really sloppy job.
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it should come with gaskets...and i did use them. It does move the usb port up, but it is still perfectly accessible .
Also, i took a look at my spare pcb and it seems the reset button is already pre-clipped.
Thanks! I will check it. But for now, I am sitting here still waiting for shipping invoice haha!After uploading the json to the keyboard firmware builder, download the source code.Decided to just bite the bullet and port this to VIA myself.Please do share the tutorial
Looks like it's working well for my really sloppy job.
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I just stuck that into a cloned directory of qmk_firmware and compiled it.
Then just follow any of MechMerlin's port tutorials on YouTube and you should get VIA working.
This is of course just a temporary solution until it gets officially ported to VIA.
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I am using the solder version.
The key above the right arrow is mapped to pgdn on mine. Which position on the board are the other keys? My esc is the top left key and top right is del.
Also it seems like it's not running QMK right now since I don't see QMK Toolbox list anything when I plug it in, but my other boards do.
I am using the solder version.
The key above the right arrow is mapped to pgdn on mine. Which position on the board are the other keys? My esc is the top left key and top right is del.
Also it seems like it's not running QMK right now since I don't see QMK Toolbox list anything when I plug it in, but my other boards do.
From top right descending, it goes:
`; page up; page down; *nothing*; right arrow
The *nothing* is the fn keyI am using the solder version.
The key above the right arrow is mapped to pgdn on mine. Which position on the board are the other keys? My esc is the top left key and top right is del.
Also it seems like it's not running QMK right now since I don't see QMK Toolbox list anything when I plug it in, but my other boards do.
From top right descending, it goes:
`; page up; page down; *nothing*; right arrow
Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?
Do these PCBs have a keycode to enter bootmapper/reset mode? I dont want to desolder the reset button only to find out that there isn't a way to flash the board going forward.try fn + esc
Do these PCBs have a keycode to enter bootmapper/reset mode? I dont want to desolder the reset button only to find out that there isn't a way to flash the board going forward.
Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?
Yeah full alu plate. I'm assuming one of my switch legs in the middle of the board was touching the bottom of the case, but can't be certain. The foam did fix it.
With all of the gaskets installed, you really do have to screw this thing together tight, so it might be the gaskets forcing things closer together?
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:
Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?
I have a PC plate/case and not having this issueQuick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:
Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?
This is pretty concerning as people are finding out this issue now.
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:
Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?
Thing of Beauty!Ohh looks nice! What is the cable solution, looks like you have an aviation adapter on the board at the USB port?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fGc1LLK.jpg)
Just received my invoice. If its any consolation for those yet to receive one, there was a (370) beside the invoice which may refer to the current order that was just processed, out of the 480 total boards ordered. The (370) didn't refer to my order # nor the invoice # on the spreadsheet for reference. $71 shipping to TX.
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:
Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?
Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.
Not directly addressed at you, but why would you have plenty of space between bottom of case and reset button while others are having issues with button contacting plate? Seems like a very big variance. I'm waiting on switches before putting mine together. but this is a curious development.
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:
Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?
Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.
Not directly addressed at you, but why would you have plenty of space between bottom of case and reset button while others are having issues with button contacting plate? Seems like a very big variance. I'm waiting on switches before putting mine together. but this is a curious development.
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:
Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:
Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?
Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.
Not directly addressed at you, but why would you have plenty of space between bottom of case and reset button while others are having issues with button contacting plate? Seems like a very big variance. I'm waiting on switches before putting mine together. but this is a curious development.
Well, I read people reviews on Zfrontier and some have this problem. But they also didn't install all of the gaskets correctly as mentioned by some other people. I might exaggerate by plenty of space, but I didn't have any difficulty put the bottom part on the case. It didn't feel like I pressed the PCB back or anything. The reset button is not at the lowest part of the PCB so if the lowest part made it, the reset button should be fine. Mine is a hotswap though, so I can't say for sure for the universal one.
I'm just gonna wait for a streamer to build it, and only them am I gonna build mine.Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:
Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?
Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.
Not directly addressed at you, but why would you have plenty of space between bottom of case and reset button while others are having issues with button contacting plate? Seems like a very big variance. I'm waiting on switches before putting mine together. but this is a curious development.
Well, I read people reviews on Zfrontier and some have this problem. But they also didn't install all of the gaskets correctly as mentioned by some other people. I might exaggerate by plenty of space, but I didn't have any difficulty put the bottom part on the case. It didn't feel like I pressed the PCB back or anything. The reset button is not at the lowest part of the PCB so if the lowest part made it, the reset button should be fine. Mine is a hotswap though, so I can't say for sure for the universal one.
This makes a lot of sense as to why some builds are having issues. Lack of gasket installation would certainly affect bottom clearance.
Edit: Question on gaskets: (16 for the plates and 6 for the middle case). I understand the gaskets on top and middle case for plates, what do the other 6 do and where do they go? I have my keeb packed up until switches arrive, but I dont want to miss any gasket locations.
Seeing everyone's builds is making me sad that I have yet to receive my shipping invoice :( anyone else on the same boat?
You can pull off the middle layer and you put the 6 gaskets between the bottom and the middle layer, there's grooves where they need to go. Or at least I hope, if not I just ****ed up my keyboard badly LMAOQuick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:
Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?
Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.
Not directly addressed at you, but why would you have plenty of space between bottom of case and reset button while others are having issues with button contacting plate? Seems like a very big variance. I'm waiting on switches before putting mine together. but this is a curious development.
Well, I read people reviews on Zfrontier and some have this problem. But they also didn't install all of the gaskets correctly as mentioned by some other people. I might exaggerate by plenty of space, but I didn't have any difficulty put the bottom part on the case. It didn't feel like I pressed the PCB back or anything. The reset button is not at the lowest part of the PCB so if the lowest part made it, the reset button should be fine. Mine is a hotswap though, so I can't say for sure for the universal one.
This makes a lot of sense as to why some builds are having issues. Lack of gasket installation would certainly affect bottom clearance.
Edit: Question on gaskets: (16 for the plates and 6 for the middle case). I understand the gaskets on top and middle case for plates, what do the other 6 do and where do they go? I have my keeb packed up until switches arrive, but I dont want to miss any gasket locations.
You can pull off the middle layer and you put the 6 gaskets between the bottom and the middle layer, there's grooves where they need to go. Or at least I hope, if not I just ****ed up my keyboard badly LMAOQuick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:
Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?
Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.
Not directly addressed at you, but why would you have plenty of space between bottom of case and reset button while others are having issues with button contacting plate? Seems like a very big variance. I'm waiting on switches before putting mine together. but this is a curious development.
Well, I read people reviews on Zfrontier and some have this problem. But they also didn't install all of the gaskets correctly as mentioned by some other people. I might exaggerate by plenty of space, but I didn't have any difficulty put the bottom part on the case. It didn't feel like I pressed the PCB back or anything. The reset button is not at the lowest part of the PCB so if the lowest part made it, the reset button should be fine. Mine is a hotswap though, so I can't say for sure for the universal one.
This makes a lot of sense as to why some builds are having issues. Lack of gasket installation would certainly affect bottom clearance.
Edit: Question on gaskets: (16 for the plates and 6 for the middle case). I understand the gaskets on top and middle case for plates, what do the other 6 do and where do they go? I have my keeb packed up until switches arrive, but I dont want to miss any gasket locations.
also, when will firmware be available on gmk
Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?
Yeah full alu plate. I'm assuming one of my switch legs in the middle of the board was touching the bottom of the case, but can't be certain. The foam did fix it.
With all of the gaskets installed, you really do have to screw this thing together tight, so it might be the gaskets forcing things closer together?
I actually had to loosen mine, had tightened it up and the board stopped working, because the reset switch was being hit constantly, even after trimming it. So I guess I'm going to possibly remove the reset switch.
I can't speak for everyone else, but I have all the gaskets on correctly as far as I know, button has been trimmed and I still get the reset button problem (full pc board if it matters) if I press down on caps hard enough. Obvious solution is to not press down caps hard.Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?
Yeah full alu plate. I'm assuming one of my switch legs in the middle of the board was touching the bottom of the case, but can't be certain. The foam did fix it.
With all of the gaskets installed, you really do have to screw this thing together tight, so it might be the gaskets forcing things closer together?
I actually had to loosen mine, had tightened it up and the board stopped working, because the reset switch was being hit constantly, even after trimming it. So I guess I'm going to possibly remove the reset switch.
have you put all gaskets rubber on ? as tested, if all rubbers were put on the right position and reset key was clipped, it will not be happened
That's scary to know, that there is something fundamentally wrong with pcb's.I can't speak for everyone else, but I have all the gaskets on correctly as far as I know, button has been trimmed and I still get the reset button problem (full pc board if it matters) if I press down on caps hard enough. Obvious solution is to not press down caps hard.Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?
Yeah full alu plate. I'm assuming one of my switch legs in the middle of the board was touching the bottom of the case, but can't be certain. The foam did fix it.
With all of the gaskets installed, you really do have to screw this thing together tight, so it might be the gaskets forcing things closer together?
I actually had to loosen mine, had tightened it up and the board stopped working, because the reset switch was being hit constantly, even after trimming it. So I guess I'm going to possibly remove the reset switch.
have you put all gaskets rubber on ? as tested, if all rubbers were put on the right position and reset key was clipped, it will not be happened
Yes I installed all of the gaskets. 8 on either side where the plate rests and 6 between the bottom and middle pieces.Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?
Yeah full alu plate. I'm assuming one of my switch legs in the middle of the board was touching the bottom of the case, but can't be certain. The foam did fix it.
With all of the gaskets installed, you really do have to screw this thing together tight, so it might be the gaskets forcing things closer together?
I actually had to loosen mine, had tightened it up and the board stopped working, because the reset switch was being hit constantly, even after trimming it. So I guess I'm going to possibly remove the reset switch.
have you put all gaskets rubber on ? as tested, if all rubbers were put on the right position and reset key was clipped, it will not be happened
Might be a dumb question, but I'll shoot it off anyway: If the reset button is desoldered, can the pads be jumped manually for resetting if needed?Of course. Or use combination on keymap for reset.
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I definitely use a reset combo/layer, but it is nice to know that I have a hardware method of resetting if things get too sideways.Might be a dumb question, but I'll shoot it off anyway: If the reset button is desoldered, can the pads be jumped manually for resetting if needed?Of course. Or use combination on keymap for reset.
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I always use Fn+Space+R. With this, you do not need to open the case just to flash.
Easy to add a ws2812 rgb led strip !Nice! Do you have any control over it with the default firmware?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)
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Easy to add a ws2812 rgb led strip !Nice! Do you have any control over it with the default firmware?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)
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I take back my request to buy this board, this reset pin issue is a big yikes. I'll just wait for another 65 to come out. No biggie.
I totally agree with you. I just unsoldered it right now and it took no time at all. This is a fantastic board and just one reset button doesn't change it at all. Could probably get a flatter reset button anyway the area seems like it fit anything.I take back my request to buy this board, this reset pin issue is a big yikes. I'll just wait for another 65 to come out. No biggie.
i mean...i wouldn't really say its that big of an issue that you disqualify any interest in the board, the pcb functions perfectly fine otherwise. You have to press really hard (which you would never do when typing normally) to get it to reset when gaskets are put in. plus, de-soldering is a 5 second job and mapping the reset key is easy(already mapped stock).
Still a sweet board imo.
I take back my request to buy this board, this reset pin issue is a big yikes. I'll just wait for another 65 to come out. No biggie.
i mean...i wouldn't really say its that big of an issue that you disqualify any interest in the board, the pcb functions perfectly fine otherwise. You have to press really hard (which you would never do when typing normally) to get it to reset when gaskets are put in. plus, de-soldering is a 5 second job and mapping the reset key is easy(already mapped stock).
Still a sweet board imo.
I totally agree with you. I just unsoldered it right now and it took no time at all. This is a fantastic board and just one reset button doesn't change it at all. Could probably get a flatter reset button anyway the area seems like it fit anything.I take back my request to buy this board, this reset pin issue is a big yikes. I'll just wait for another 65 to come out. No biggie.
i mean...i wouldn't really say its that big of an issue that you disqualify any interest in the board, the pcb functions perfectly fine otherwise. You have to press really hard (which you would never do when typing normally) to get it to reset when gaskets are put in. plus, de-soldering is a 5 second job and mapping the reset key is easy(already mapped stock).
Still a sweet board imo.
Has anyone had any luck with programming their key65 yet? When I head into QMK confiq the pcb isn't listed. I saw the .hex and .json files, but I am unsure what use these are without the keyboard being listed in the config. I've always just used VIA in the past but, it doesnt seem that VIA is able to recognize this PCB.you can use the website linked (https://kbfirmware.com/) and upload the json file. after you change the keymap and stuff you'll see and option to compile as a hex file. The hex file you use in qmk to flash keyboard with. Use it as a local file in the QMK toolbox instead of selecting your keyboard from the list.
Has anyone had any luck with programming their key65 yet? When I head into QMK confiq the pcb isn't listed. I saw the .hex and .json files, but I am unsure what use these are without the keyboard being listed in the config. I've always just used VIA in the past but, it doesnt seem that VIA is able to recognize this PCB.you can use the website linked (https://kbfirmware.com/) and upload the json file. after you change the keymap and stuff you'll see and option to compile as a hex file. The hex file you use in qmk to flash keyboard with. Use it as a local file in the QMK toolbox instead of selecting your keyboard from the list.
I have a rudimentary VIA support going, if someone wants to test.If failed, is there any chance to damage the pcb? Are you using it now in VIA?
Disclaimer: I don't have all layouts and it may or may not work. Use at your own risk.
Edit: forgot you need an updated hex. Here's mine that I used for my board. Again use at your own risk.
Edit2: Updated json to match hex.
I have a rudimentary VIA support going, if someone wants to test.
Disclaimer: I don't have all layouts and it may or may not work. Use at your own risk.
Edit: forgot you need an updated hex. Here's mine that I used for my board. Again use at your own risk.
Edit2: Updated json to match hex.
Are they any extras that will become available?
why is this not in qmk???
theoretically this could have been done a long time ago
If in qmk, it would be easily to port it to be compatible with VIA. That's the main objective.why is this not in qmk???
theoretically this could have been done a long time ago
kbfirmware.com is more convenient for those who don't write codes or use Github. If you do write C and know how to compile it, kbfirmware.com can simply generate the QMK codes. The json files for kbfirmware.com is attached in the OP if you didn't see them.
If in qmk, it would be easily to port it to be compatible with VIA. That's the main objective.why is this not in qmk???
theoretically this could have been done a long time ago
kbfirmware.com is more convenient for those who don't write codes or use Github. If you do write C and know how to compile it, kbfirmware.com can simply generate the QMK codes. The json files for kbfirmware.com is attached in the OP if you didn't see them.
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Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?
Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?
Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?
yep same with mine. got my tracking on the 28th of april and no movement :( will keep waiting
Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?
yep same with mine. got my tracking on the 28th of april and no movement :( will keep waiting
If you've received the tracking number, that means your board has been shipped to Hongkong from Shenzhen, and been processed by the Hongkong DHL proxy.
Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?
I paid my shipping invoice on the 23rd and haven't gotten a tracking number yet >_< You're a step ahead of me! I assume it's covid stuff
Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?
yep same with mine. got my tracking on the 28th of april and no movement :( will keep waiting
Just finished building mine, really happy with how it turned out!
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Just finished building mine, really happy with how it turned out!
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Is that the hotswap pcb that has backlight? Can you change the colors from blue to other colors? Is it RGB?
Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?
yep same with mine. got my tracking on the 28th of april and no movement :( will keep waiting
If you've received the tracking number, that means your board has been shipped to Hongkong from Shenzhen, and been processed by the Hongkong DHL proxy.
I have a rudimentary VIA support going, if someone wants to test.
Disclaimer: I don't have all layouts and it may or may not work. Use at your own risk.
Edit: forgot you need an updated hex. Here's mine that I used for my board. Again use at your own risk.
Edit2: Updated json to match hex.
Nice to see someone else gave this a go too. This is my first board so I decided to give this a **** and it seemed pretty simple. I managed to get the hotswap board and all the layouts for the universal pcb onto VIA. I just don't really understand how backlighting actually works on QMK so I have no idea what's going on with that. The intensity seems to work for the hotswap board though, I have no idea if the hotswap board is RGB or not I'm assuming it is, or at least hoping. Either way I suppose this is going to be up to senter as to which product numbers he wants to choose, I've just given the hotswap as 0003 and the universal as 0004 following the leaf60, anyway these are the flashes for each PCB and the json files for via.If in qmk, it would be easily to port it to be compatible with VIA. That's the main objective.why is this not in qmk???
theoretically this could have been done a long time ago
kbfirmware.com is more convenient for those who don't write codes or use Github. If you do write C and know how to compile it, kbfirmware.com can simply generate the QMK codes. The json files for kbfirmware.com is attached in the OP if you didn't see them.
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I see. I've never used VIA THB. I always compile the codes or use kbfirmware.com.
I still don't understand why people ask for merging the codes into QMK's main branch. Is it required by VIA? If someone knows how do port, he/she must know how to compile the codes. If he/she only want it to be convenient, why care about QMK's main branch?
Can you provide step by step instruction on how to do it?I have a rudimentary VIA support going, if someone wants to test.
Disclaimer: I don't have all layouts and it may or may not work. Use at your own risk.
Edit: forgot you need an updated hex. Here's mine that I used for my board. Again use at your own risk.
Edit2: Updated json to match hex.Nice to see someone else gave this a go too. This is my first board so I decided to give this a **** and it seemed pretty simple. I managed to get the hotswap board and all the layouts for the universal pcb onto VIA. I just don't really understand how backlighting actually works on QMK so I have no idea what's going on with that. The intensity seems to work for the hotswap board though, I have no idea if the hotswap board is RGB or not I'm assuming it is, or at least hoping. Either way I suppose this is going to be up to senter as to which product numbers he wants to choose, I've just given the hotswap as 0003 and the universal as 0004 following the leaf60, anyway these are the flashes for each PCB and the json files for via.If in qmk, it would be easily to port it to be compatible with VIA. That's the main objective.why is this not in qmk???
theoretically this could have been done a long time ago
kbfirmware.com is more convenient for those who don't write codes or use Github. If you do write C and know how to compile it, kbfirmware.com can simply generate the QMK codes. The json files for kbfirmware.com is attached in the OP if you didn't see them.
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I see. I've never used VIA THB. I always compile the codes or use kbfirmware.com.
I still don't understand why people ask for merging the codes into QMK's main branch. Is it required by VIA? If someone knows how do port, he/she must know how to compile the codes. If he/she only want it to be convenient, why care about QMK's main branch?
Can you provide step by step instruction on how to do it?
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Can you provide step by step instruction on how to do it?
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Well you reset the board first, open up the QMK toolbox under local file you just browse for the correct via hex file for you pcb then flash it. After that you just open via, click the desgin tab ( you might have to enable it in the setting panel.) hit load then load the .json file for you pcb and that's about it really.
Just trying to decide on my layout while I'm waiting for stabs to arrive, but I'm pretty sure this is it.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NFWOAm2.jpg)
Just trying to decide on my layout while I'm waiting for stabs to arrive, but I'm pretty sure this is it.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NFWOAm2.jpg)
Lovely! What color is your plate?
Can you provide step by step instruction on how to do it?
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Well you reset the board first, open up the QMK toolbox under local file you just browse for the correct via hex file for you pcb then flash it. After that you just open via, click the desgin tab ( you might have to enable it in the setting panel.) hit load then load the .json file for you pcb and that's about it really.
Can you provide step by step instruction on how to do it?
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Well you reset the board first, open up the QMK toolbox under local file you just browse for the correct via hex file for you pcb then flash it. After that you just open via, click the desgin tab ( you might have to enable it in the setting panel.) hit load then load the .json file for you pcb and that's about it really.
I mean I doubt it, I think that's what the reset button is for. I mean this is the first time I've ever worked on a keyboard, but I didn't run into any troubles and I ended up flashing the board like 20+ times while trying to port stuff to via. I forgot to do a lot of things along the way so there was a lot of back tracking. You should be good with just flashing that hex onto your board and then loading the json up onto Via.
Anyone selling a gb spot? White color.
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Can you do a sound test, pleasseee? ^_^
hows the machining on your top plate kanji?
PC with rgbShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5NJgzz.jpg)
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Brass with lubed and filmed black inks. Feels and sounds good. I added the rubber between the switch and plate, so it def. helps!PC with rgbShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5NJgzz.jpg)
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Aluplate? What switches? How's the feel and sound of the plate?
Brass with lubed and filmed black inks. Feels and sounds good. I added the rubber between the switch and plate, so it def. helps!PC with rgbShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5NJgzz.jpg)
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Aluplate? What switches? How's the feel and sound of the plate?
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*deletedThe gasket def helps a lot!
PC with rgbShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5NJgzz.jpg)
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PC with rgbShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5NJgzz.jpg)
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It’s a ALITOVE 60 Pixels WS2812B from Amazon. Any ws2812 would work .PC with rgbShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5NJgzz.jpg)
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what rgb strip did you happen to use?
Those who built all alu with linear switches, how's the sound and feel of the plate?
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Has anyone had any luck with programming their key65 yet? When I head into QMK confiq the pcb isn't listed. I saw the .hex and .json files, but I am unsure what use these are without the keyboard being listed in the config. I've always just used VIA in the past but, it doesnt seem that VIA is able to recognize this PCB.you can use the website linked (https://kbfirmware.com/) and upload the json file. after you change the keymap and stuff you'll see and option to compile as a hex file. The hex file you use in qmk to flash keyboard with. Use it as a local file in the QMK toolbox instead of selecting your keyboard from the list.
Thanks for the help. Worked perfectly.
Got an email from DHL that I have a package arriving next Thurs. I got my shipping invoice on April 29.
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship
Got an email from DHL that I have a package arriving next Thurs. I got my shipping invoice on April 29.
Got an email from DHL that I have a package arriving next Thurs. I got my shipping invoice on April 29.
lucky :P where are you located? I got invoice on April 23, tracking on 28th, and still stuck in HK. hopefully its not lost and just slow in transit
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship
Package is out for delivery today!! Got my tracking number wednesday and it left hong kong yesterday :eek: :eek: :eek:
in Canada though
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship
yeah im still in the US (VA) and no progress. I wonder if they are waiting for more packages to load on a plane or maybe theres a queue since not many planes flying to US.
Got an email from DHL that I have a package arriving next Thurs. I got my shipping invoice on April 29.
lucky :P where are you located? I got invoice on April 23, tracking on 28th, and still stuck in HK. hopefully its not lost and just slow in transit
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship
yeah im still in the US (VA) and no progress. I wonder if they are waiting for more packages to load on a plane or maybe theres a queue since not many planes flying to US.
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship
yeah im still in the US (VA) and no progress. I wonder if they are waiting for more packages to load on a plane or maybe theres a queue since not many planes flying to US.
Just a random datapoint, but I am in VA and I received mine on Monday (5/4). Already built and assembled.
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship
yeah im still in the US (VA) and no progress. I wonder if they are waiting for more packages to load on a plane or maybe theres a queue since not many planes flying to US.
Just a random datapoint, but I am in VA and I received mine on Monday (5/4). Already built and assembled.
Lucky :P when did you get tracking number?
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship
yeah im still in the US (VA) and no progress. I wonder if they are waiting for more packages to load on a plane or maybe theres a queue since not many planes flying to US.
ust a random datapoint, but I am in VA and I received mine on Monday (5/4). Already built and assembled.
Lucky :P when did you get tracking number?
Got mine in MN May 5th
Shipping notice Apr 30
Does anyone know if you can add RGB strips on hotswap boards? This is all pretty new to me, I wasn't sure if I saw any place on the PCB for those strips...Should have a VOG through hope you can solder rgb on the hot swap, Clarence might be close though.
any1 know how often senter checks emails on runninghack@gmail.com. Trying to change my shipping address but no reply yet
Received mine today, in FL USA. Happy to report the e-coating is amazing. My pictures don't do it justice. Also the top right Kanji logo is perfect :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/B9d8acn.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qZstK1B.jpg)
Love, love, love how it came out! Thank you so much for the run, Senter!
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Love, love, love how it came out! Thank you so much for the run, Senter!
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Is your weight scuffed on the right or something?
Love, love, love how it came out! Thank you so much for the run, Senter!I feel a little bad for not getting your colors.
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I feel a little bad for not getting your colors.
Absolutely loving your colors.
My lack of imagination is pretty bad
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I feel a little bad for not getting your colors.
Absolutely loving your colors.
My lack of imagination is pretty bad
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Anyone else get their board disconnected by pressing down too hard?Desolder the reset button
Using the PC plate atm and everytime i apply pressure to the centre my keyboard just disconnects
Anyone else get their board disconnected by pressing down too hard?
Using the PC plate atm and everytime i apply pressure to the centre my keyboard just disconnects
Love, love, love how it came out! Thank you so much for the run, Senter!
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still waiting for my shipping invoice 🙁
still waiting for my shipping invoice 🙁
PM me your email address please.
Senter can you provide screw specs for bottom of case. I want to change from gold color.
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anybody still waiting for tracking like me. In PA, USA.
Felt like I should post a build, I'm still waiting on the keycaps but it looks great nonetheless. Super happy with this board, thanks Senter <3
To all my friends who are still waiting on theirs godspeed.
I have two of these, and I'm going to get one Cerakote'd a different color. I'm curious how the top Key logo fits in. Is it pressed in with an adhesive?both are screwed in i'm pretty sure.
Felt like I should post a build, I'm still waiting on the keycaps but it looks great nonetheless. Super happy with this board, thanks Senter <3nice build, what stab is it? look very fancy!
To all my friends who are still waiting on theirs godspeed.
PC top and bottom, green middle. Green key logos top and bottom (brass weight). Brass plate layered with a botanical themed decal for upcoming GMK botanical.Laser cut stickers?
My first build with mill-max sockets, currently running mint holy pandas and zeal stabs. I intend to shift to c3 stabs and may do zykos or whatever the t1 variant is called.
Dampening: in addition to the gaskets, I installed some leftover rubber from the gasket sticker pack onto the bottom of the PCB, as well as added o-rings between the bottom case and metal middle case to reduce vibration through the screws. I ran it for a while without the foam before installing it. I can confirm that even on a PC board it makes a huge difference.
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They're stabs from zeal.Felt like I should post a build, I'm still waiting on the keycaps but it looks great nonetheless. Super happy with this board, thanks Senter <3nice build, what stab is it? look very fancy!
To all my friends who are still waiting on theirs godspeed.
Nice! That's actually really nice that the led lights up the logo blocker. At first I thought it looked a little weird that it was a gaping switch hole underneath but think it works out well.Yea it's super nice since the pcb has a led there for people without top blockers.
Yea they are, great switches can recommend, I do want to try the new dragonfruits though when they do come out.Felt like I should post a build, I'm still waiting on the keycaps but it looks great nonetheless. Super happy with this board, thanks Senter <3
To all my friends who are still waiting on theirs godspeed.
Nice build. Are those Helios switches?
I have two of these, and I'm going to get one Cerakote'd a different color. I'm curious how the top Key logo fits in. Is it pressed in with an adhesive?both are screwed in i'm pretty sure.
Laser cut stickers?
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Extra plates did not come with extra gaskets? :(You shouldn’t need them, gaskets are placed on the keyboard not plates.
I......... put them on the plates. Why did I do thatI think because someone did on zfrontier.
Anyone who got their shipping invoice on May 5th, do you have your tracking information yet?Paid invoice 6th May at 6am (+8). No tracking yet.
Anyone who got their shipping invoice on May 5th, do you have your tracking information yet?I received and paid mine on 6th. Still no tracking. Guess it will take some times to ship.
Anyone who got their shipping invoice on May 5th, do you have your tracking information yet?
guess it will take some more time - paid may 3rd and didn't get a tracking number eitherI paid 29th, just got tracking yesterday. so...it will happen. give it some more days.
guess it will take some more time - paid may 3rd and didn't get a tracking number eitherI paid 29th, just got tracking yesterday. so...it will happen. give it some more days.
PC top and bottom, green middle. Green key logos top and bottom (brass weight). Brass plate layered with a botanical themed decal for upcoming GMK botanical.
My first build with mill-max sockets, currently running mint holy pandas and zeal stabs. I intend to shift to c3 stabs and may do zykos or whatever the t1 variant is called.
Dampening: in addition to the gaskets, I installed some leftover rubber from the gasket sticker pack onto the bottom of the PCB, as well as added o-rings between the bottom case and metal middle case to reduce vibration through the screws. I ran it for a while without the foam before installing it. I can confirm that even on a PC board it makes a huge difference.
More and better pics later.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200511/fca11578f8b6cffb438dca30ff489f66.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200511/b4e0bb148824f5a202428cbc0403c2a9.jpg)
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... However, I do think the o-rings will have minimal effect. Definitely they will have close to no effect if you have a full PC board.
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Has anyone built a WKL with polycarbonate plate? Everything on the bottom row for the polycarbonate is not lining up at all. Spacebar (7u doesn’t line up), Control and alt don’t either for 1.5u. My brass plate is fine, but the polycarbonate is certainly not. So when the switches are on the plate and you try to put the WKL top casing it won’t fit the right keys. I’ve posted an image below to demonstrate what I mean.
Has anyone built a WKL with polycarbonate plate? Everything on the bottom row for the polycarbonate is not lining up at all. Spacebar (7u doesn’t line up), Control and alt don’t either for 1.5u. My brass plate is fine, but the polycarbonate is certainly not. So when the switches are on the plate and you try to put the WKL top casing it won’t fit the right keys. I’ve posted an image below to demonstrate what I mean.
Has anyone built a WKL with polycarbonate plate? Everything on the bottom row for the polycarbonate is not lining up at all. Spacebar (7u doesn’t line up), Control and alt don’t either for 1.5u. My brass plate is fine, but the polycarbonate is certainly not. So when the switches are on the plate and you try to put the WKL top casing it won’t fit the right keys. I’ve posted an image below to demonstrate what I mean.
I could be missing something very obvious but is that not the split spacebar plate which is labeled for '6.25u spacebar + split spacebar version plate' in the OP?
Looks like there was a mix up in my order. My case top right logo was supposed to be e-teal but it's just white and the bottom weight was supposed to be teal with white logo. I actually don't mind the bottom weight - I think it looks great but I would definitely want the top right teal logo. :(Colors were only for the key logos
Looks like there was a mix up in my order. My case top right logo was supposed to be e-teal but it's just white and the bottom weight was supposed to be teal with white logo. I actually don't mind the bottom weight - I think it looks great but I would definitely want the top right teal logo. :(
Looks like there was a mix up in my order. My case top right logo was supposed to be e-teal but it's just white and the bottom weight was supposed to be teal with white logo. I actually don't mind the bottom weight - I think it looks great but I would definitely want the top right teal logo. :(
I could be wrong, but it was my understanding that the kanji logo was basically just an engraving, and so you couldn't choose a special color for the logo. Only the key logo was available to select different colors for. I went for the key logo though so I didn't pay close attention to the kanji logo options.
Looks like there was a mix up in my order. My case top right logo was supposed to be e-teal but it's just white and the bottom weight was supposed to be teal with white logo. I actually don't mind the bottom weight - I think it looks great but I would definitely want the top right teal logo. :(Colors were only for the key logos
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anyone have a link to a build video yet?
I'd just like to know the consensus from those who have already received their key65, for those with non-PC cases, is it necessary to snip the reset button?
I'd just like to know the consensus from those who have already received their key65, for those with non-PC cases, is it necessary to snip the reset button?
No, mine was pre-clipped on both PCBs I ordered (hotswap). Just finished putting mine together tonight. It's really easy. Get the plate and dampener lined up, put it on the PCB, throw in the switches, then put the adhesive gaskets where they go in the case (check the first post). Put all that back together and you're good to go.
If you have the hotswap PCB, make sure you are pushing the switches in on a flat surface. I didn't do that for my ESC key and half the hotswap socket came off. I had to solder it back on, wasn't a big deal and it's a common issue with non-mill max hotswap.
Flashing QMK is also easy. One thing I'd point out is that you just need to hold FN + Esc for 1-2 seconds while the keyboard is plugged in to enter bootloader mode. I was confused and thought this was like a DZ60 where you have to hold down the buttons while plugging the USB in. Fox Labs' PCB is much easier, no need to test your dexterity like the DZ60.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/76QzGIp.jpg)
I'd just like to know the consensus from those who have already received their key65, for those with non-PC cases, is it necessary to snip the reset button?
No, mine was pre-clipped on both PCBs I ordered (hotswap). Just finished putting mine together tonight. It's really easy. Get the plate and dampener lined up, put it on the PCB, throw in the switches, then put the adhesive gaskets where they go in the case (check the first post). Put all that back together and you're good to go.
If you have the hotswap PCB, make sure you are pushing the switches in on a flat surface. I didn't do that for my ESC key and half the hotswap socket came off. I had to solder it back on, wasn't a big deal and it's a common issue with non-mill max hotswap.
Flashing QMK is also easy. One thing I'd point out is that you just need to hold FN + Esc for 1-2 seconds while the keyboard is plugged in to enter bootloader mode. I was confused and thought this was like a DZ60 where you have to hold down the buttons while plugging the USB in. Fox Labs' PCB is much easier, no need to test your dexterity like the DZ60.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/76QzGIp.jpg)
This board looks stellar. Is that a black case with blue or teal accents?
Paid on 5th May, receive tracking today. Item scheduled to deliver this Friday.Wow! Hoping to receive tracking today to have an idea of delivery date.
Thanks senter. :thumb:
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.
Paid on 5th May, receive tracking today. Item scheduled to deliver this Friday.
Thanks senter. :thumb:
Paid on 5th May, receive tracking today. Item scheduled to deliver this Friday.
Thanks senter. :thumb:
country?
anyone have a link to a build video yet?
It's really straightforward.
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.
You only need 6 of the long gaskets. They go either on top of the bottom piece or underneath the middle piece. (not on both otherwise you wouldn't be able to screw down the board)
im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?I have the same issue where the right switch in a split backspace isn't registering. I'm very interested in figuring it out, although super busy this week.
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
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No need to freak out, boss. I was only trying to reassure you that it's easier than it would seem from reading this thread. I, and a few other people, have shared our experience building it and tried to help. Good luck.anyone have a link to a build video yet?
It's really straightforward.
seems like plenty of people are confused in here. just asked for a link. not whether you thought it was important or not.
Got invoiced for shipping May 1, still no tracking :(
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.
You only need 6 of the long gaskets. They go either on top of the bottom piece or underneath the middle piece. (not on both otherwise you wouldn't be able to screw down the board)
I realized this last night after building. I ended up putting six on the bottom, and it worked out great. Although I didn't use the dampener between the plate and pcb as I didn't want to make the typing experience really stiff (already had to use brass instead of polycarbonate). Have to say I'm not too impressed with the sound quality right now. Anyone feel right now this doesn't really sound like a gasket board?
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.
You only need 6 of the long gaskets. They go either on top of the bottom piece or underneath the middle piece. (not on both otherwise you wouldn't be able to screw down the board)
I realized this last night after building. I ended up putting six on the bottom, and it worked out great. Although I didn't use the dampener between the plate and pcb as I didn't want to make the typing experience really stiff (already had to use brass instead of polycarbonate). Have to say I'm not too impressed with the sound quality right now. Anyone feel right now this doesn't really sound like a gasket board?
I used the dampener along with a PC plate and I'm very happy with the way mine sounds with lubed alpacas. what kind of sound were you looking for?
im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
thanksShow Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )
So I guess the sound I was looking for (or maybe expecting I should say was close to Polaris, and that Tealio build sound test posted above), but then again I did not use the dampener. How stiff would you say it is with the dampener and PC plate? I do like flex in my boards, and I'm wondering If I add that will it make it too stiff.
On a side note, did Senter release the plate files for non ISO, or is there any plans to do so? I have the wrong PC plate for configuration (choosing mistake) and seeing if I will be able to get a custom plate cut in the event I cannot get a 7u plate from Senter.
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.There should only be six my guy, all between the bottom and middle layers.
Split space works fine for me, but the issue here is specifically around split backspace.im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
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That's pretty strange, split space registers for me.
im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
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im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?I have the same issue where the right switch in a split backspace isn't registering. I'm very interested in figuring it out, although super busy this week.
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
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Edit: I wonder if the default keymap has it working? I can't recall if that registered during my PCB jump testing.
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I don't know if it's a manufacturing defect or design flaw. Some PCBs turn out to be good. Some, however, don't have a bridge between the front side and back side of the PCB on that split BS key. I've consulted the PCB supplier and they admit it's an issue. Here's (https://imgur.com/a/rdBQgW3) the solution they provide. You need to apply large amount of solder on that BS key so that the broken bridge between the front and back of the PCB can be joined. It's not a good solution tbh. I've ordered some more PCBs from them. If you plan on building a split BS layout, or if you've already done that but can't make it work, PM me and I'll send you a new one.
im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
thanksShow Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?I have the same issue where the right switch in a split backspace isn't registering. I'm very interested in figuring it out, although super busy this week.
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
thanksShow Image(http:// (Attachment Link) )
Edit: I wonder if the default keymap has it working? I can't recall if that registered during my PCB jump testing.
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I don't know if it's a manufacturing defect or design flaw. Some PCBs turn out to be good. Some, however, don't have a bridge between the front side and back side of the PCB on that split BS key. I've consulted the PCB supplier and they admit it's an issue. Here's (https://imgur.com/a/rdBQgW3) the solution they provide. You need to apply large amount of solder on that BS key so that the broken bridge between the front and back of the PCB can be joined. It's not a good solution tbh. I've ordered some more PCBs from them. If you plan on building a split BS layout, or if you've already done that but can't make it work, PM me and I'll send you a new one.
Senter, you mentioned that the plate file would be available after the GB ended, right? I'd love to have an Alps plate made :)
Senter, you mentioned that the plate file would be available after the GB ended, right? I'd love to have an Alps plate made :)
There is a .dxf on the first post on the thread for the plates that could be used as a start.
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Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.
You only need 6 of the long gaskets. They go either on top of the bottom piece or underneath the middle piece. (not on both otherwise you wouldn't be able to screw down the board)
I realized this last night after building. I ended up putting six on the bottom, and it worked out great. Although I didn't use the dampener between the plate and pcb as I didn't want to make the typing experience really stiff (already had to use brass instead of polycarbonate). Have to say I'm not too impressed with the sound quality right now. Anyone feel right now this doesn't really sound like a gasket board?
I used the dampener along with a PC plate and I'm very happy with the way mine sounds with lubed alpacas. what kind of sound were you looking for?
So I guess the sound I was looking for (or maybe expecting I should say was close to Polaris, and that Tealio build sound test posted above), but then again I did not use the dampener. How stiff would you say it is with the dampener and PC plate? I do like flex in my boards, and I'm wondering If I add that will it make it too stiff.
On a side note, did Senter release the plate files for non ISO, or is there any plans to do so? I have the wrong PC plate for configuration (choosing mistake) and seeing if I will be able to get a custom plate cut in the event I cannot get a 7u plate from Senter.
Damn! That is a nice keeb you got there :eek:
Damn! That is a nice keeb you got there :eek:
Thanks =) I am loving it! This is a first for a lot of things for me:
- first 60ish percent
- first carbon fiber plate
- first with flipped spacebar (not by choice - the stab inserts on the plate force me to use a different kind of wire stab)
I am a fan, though. senter and fox labs have done it again!
Damn! That is a nice keeb you got there :eek:Show ImageShow ImageShow Image(https://i.ibb.co/G7XFKy0/IMG-5110.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XX9Vh1b)
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Got mine today =)
Just got tracking. Expected delivery date: tomorrow
lol
Paid shipping invoice on May 5th, just got my tracking.
Still just says "shipping info received"
Paid shipping invoice on May 5th, just got my tracking.
Still just says "shipping info received"
Mine has been like this since April 28th. Kinda worried that it's lost now.
That build looks awesome! Congrats! What stabilizers and switches were you using? The stabilizers don't look like screw-in ones.
Shipping info (tracking) received after invoice on the 5th of May - still appears to be in Hong Kong but this is a move in the right direction. To help gives others an idea - I'm in North east US invoice #0756. Will post pictures once it comes in! Realized I had also ordered a second PCB (one is hot swap one isn't) without an extra plate. How easy is it to get a plate cut from a third party? I would imagine it will be hard to get a plate from the secondary market.
Update: this mornings tracking was uploaded to PayPal by senter.
I just got a text from DHL saying my package was picked up, but it has a different tracking number than the one that went to PayPalthis morning.
Expected delivery: monday the 18th.
Update: this mornings tracking was uploaded to PayPal by senter.
I just got a text from DHL saying my package was picked up, but it has a different tracking number than the one that went to PayPalthis morning.
Expected delivery: monday the 18th.
I hope I’m in that same boat as well.
Anyone know how I can contact senter? I still haven't received my shipping invoice and I got no reply from runninghack@gmail.com
How do we keep the bottom brass e-clear coating clean? I am getting little marks on it while using it on a deskmat.
How do we keep the bottom brass e-clear coating clean? I am getting little marks on it while using it on a deskmat.
Handle it with the included gloves. Use microfiber to remove small fingerprint marks.
For more serious tarnishing, dissolve 1tsp salt in 1/2 cup white vinegar. Then add enough flour to thicken it to a paste. Brush it onto your brass, let it sit 10 minutes, rinse it off thoroughly, dry it and buff it clean with microfiber cloth.
I did this with my matrix 1.2 og weight and it came great!
Did some infilling on the Kanji logo on mine just in case anyone was curious to see.
Did some infilling on the Kanji logo on mine just in case anyone was curious to see.
I based my Satisfaction infill on this https://topclack.com/textclack/2019/7/30/infilling-by-jae-a-text-guide-to-infilling-logos-and-designs-on-keyboard-parts(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200514/b40564e9de9f009da55a4ca3cc380f41.jpg)Did some infilling on the Kanji logo on mine just in case anyone was curious to see.
I was thinking of doing this - how did you go about this? Also does anyone know what the Pantone colour is of the e-teal?
DHL just called me to say that there is £17 of import duty and taxes before I can have it delivered to me (I'm not exactly surprised at this as HMRC inevitable) and I expected that I would need to pay something. Just glad it's not royal mail; as they charged me an additional £8 for the privilege of getting my money to HMRC when I ordered switches from Novelkeys.
Just got mine yesterday. Exactly as I hoped for.Damn that's nice, wish I had seen that rose color when I built mine.
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Just got mine yesterday. Exactly as I hoped for.
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oof i cannot describe how nice the blue ano is (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)Did you modify the Kanji blocker logo at all? This looks a lot nicer than the past PC kanji logos
oof i cannot describe how nice the blue ano is (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)Did you modify the Kanji blocker logo at all? This looks a lot nicer than the past PC kanji logos
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Does anyone who has a full pc board with pc plate or anyone using a pc plate have a hollow sounding right arrow key or is it just me?
Has anyone done a build stream for a Key65 yet? Would love to watch one. Just waiting for my tangerine switches from TKC to come in before I build mine. Pretty stoked.
Does anybody have the situation like me? I got my tracking number from Paypal's updated shipping detail yesterday. It's status still Tracking information received. Shipment not yet picked up by DHL. But today, I received an SMS message from DHL that a package will be delivery on Monday May 18...
Did some infilling on the Kanji logo on mine just in case anyone was curious to see.
Got my tracking yesterday. Shipment info received on 11th.Got tracking yesterday, and arrived today. I am just a lucky boy.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200514/aaa32ab0dfcb6dc6312685a8088b93e3.jpg)
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I am trying to get a plate cut for ISO, is the thickness on the PC plate the same as metal? 1.5mm? I probably cant go with 2mm because of the clearances but will going smaller with 1mm work?1.5mm is the standard for Cherry MX compatible switches. If you go thicker it will interfere with the retention clips. Smaller and you'll have to compensate with thicker gaskets i suppose...
I got my 4 kits today.
They have nice colorway and good quality.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/9oC64CH.jpg)
Got mine.
Invoice paid on May 6th.
Got tracking info from Paypal on the late 13th.
Arrived in my hand on the 15th morning. Somewhere in South East Asia.
Top, Middle and Weight E-Yellow finish is uniform in Color and sandblast finish.
Good Box design, Nice packaging and addition for the glove.
Great presentation.
Overall Happy with the product.
Got mine.Wonder if the reset button have to be removed? I have hotswap pcb as well, and the reset button is still is not removed.
Invoice paid on May 6th.
Got tracking info from Paypal on the late 13th.
Arrived in my hand on the 15th morning. Somewhere in South East Asia.
Top, Middle and Weight E-Yellow finish is uniform in Color and sandblast finish.
Good Box design, Nice packaging and addition for the glove.
Great presentation.
Overall Happy with the product.
Got mine.
Invoice paid on May 6th.
Got tracking info from Paypal on the late 13th.
Arrived in my hand on the 15th morning. Somewhere in South East Asia.
Top, Middle and Weight E-Yellow finish is uniform in Color and sandblast finish.
Good Box design, Nice packaging and addition for the glove.
Great presentation.
Overall Happy with the product.
NGL this looks effin awesome.
Also, did the infill on the bottom logo as well. needs some smoothing out but overall happy with the result
Mine is currently sitting on hold in HK.
I called DHL, and they said everything is fine, it's currently waiting for room on a plane to be shipped over to the US.
Mine is also still scheduled for Monday 5/18 delivery.
Has anyone had any issues keeping switches in the hotswap socket that have been using clipped switches?Build with clipped T1s, have no issue. I am not using the thick dampener layer tho.
Mine is currently sitting on hold in HK.
I called DHL, and they said everything is fine, it's currently waiting for room on a plane to be shipped over to the US.
Mine is also still scheduled for Monday 5/18 delivery.
jeez, you called DHL over that? international logistics are ****ed right now, I would just expect it to come when it comes. However, once it clears US customs it will probably be pretty quick. Mine is in the same place, tracking has just said Hong Kong all week with Monday delivery.
Mine is currently sitting on hold in HK.
I called DHL, and they said everything is fine, it's currently waiting for room on a plane to be shipped over to the US.
Mine is also still scheduled for Monday 5/18 delivery.
Has anyone had any issues keeping switches in the hotswap socket that have been using clipped switches?Build with clipped T1s, have no issue. I am not using the thick dampener layer tho.
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Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.
It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.
It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.
I thought we had guidance from Senter about assembly in the original post or something. Trying to assemble this blind with maybe cutouts here on the foam, maybe cutouts there just makes me rather uncomfortable. For a board that took cost $400 and took six months to receive, we should have assembly instructions set-in-stone. Just going off the notifications I have received in the past two weeks about people's builds, I'm still not totally sure what's "correct" and what's not in terms of the order of gasket, plate, and case...
In other news, I saw you said you received your kit. Any pics - I want to see what you mean by the glossyness.
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.
It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.
I thought we had guidance from Senter about assembly in the original post or something. Trying to assemble this blind with maybe cutouts here on the foam, maybe cutouts there just makes me rather uncomfortable. For a board that took cost $400 and took six months to receive, we should have assembly instructions set-in-stone. Just going off the notifications I have received in the past two weeks about people's builds, I'm still not totally sure what's "correct" and what's not in terms of the order of gasket, plate, and case...
In other news, I saw you said you received your kit. Any pics - I want to see what you mean by the glossyness.
Yeah I was a tiny bit annoyed at the lack of the build guide. Would definitely be more reassuring to have a guide on where to put what and how to flash your PCB all in one place, especially since I'm coming off my Polaris.
As you can see in the picture, the red isn't exactly as matte as the black, but it's not serious enough to make me regret buying it.
Edit: For flashing on QMK, go to the site that senter linked in the post and download the JSON file and load it up to kbdfirmware. After you finish mapping, compile it into a HEX file and download it. Once done, boot up QMK firmware, connect your PCB and reset it. Once QMK has detected your PCB, manually select the HEX file that you compiled previously and then flash it. That should do the trick.
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.
It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.
I thought we had guidance from Senter about assembly in the original post or something. Trying to assemble this blind with maybe cutouts here on the foam, maybe cutouts there just makes me rather uncomfortable. For a board that took cost $400 and took six months to receive, we should have assembly instructions set-in-stone. Just going off the notifications I have received in the past two weeks about people's builds, I'm still not totally sure what's "correct" and what's not in terms of the order of gasket, plate, and case...
In other news, I saw you said you received your kit. Any pics - I want to see what you mean by the glossyness.
Yeah I was a tiny bit annoyed at the lack of the build guide. Would definitely be more reassuring to have a guide on where to put what and how to flash your PCB all in one place, especially since I'm coming off my Polaris.
As you can see in the picture, the red isn't exactly as matte as the black, but it's not serious enough to make me regret buying it.
Edit: For flashing on QMK, go to the site that senter linked in the post and download the JSON file and load it up to kbdfirmware. After you finish mapping, compile it into a HEX file and download it. Once done, boot up QMK firmware, connect your PCB and reset it. Once QMK has detected your PCB, manually select the HEX file that you compiled previously and then flash it. That should do the trick.
...where are your stabs?
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.
It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.
I thought we had guidance from Senter about assembly in the original post or something. Trying to assemble this blind with maybe cutouts here on the foam, maybe cutouts there just makes me rather uncomfortable. For a board that took cost $400 and took six months to receive, we should have assembly instructions set-in-stone. Just going off the notifications I have received in the past two weeks about people's builds, I'm still not totally sure what's "correct" and what's not in terms of the order of gasket, plate, and case...
In other news, I saw you said you received your kit. Any pics - I want to see what you mean by the glossyness.
Yeah I was a tiny bit annoyed at the lack of the build guide. Would definitely be more reassuring to have a guide on where to put what and how to flash your PCB all in one place, especially since I'm coming off my Polaris.
As you can see in the picture, the red isn't exactly as matte as the black, but it's not serious enough to make me regret buying it.
Edit: For flashing on QMK, go to the site that senter linked in the post and download the JSON file and load it up to kbdfirmware. After you finish mapping, compile it into a HEX file and download it. Once done, boot up QMK firmware, connect your PCB and reset it. Once QMK has detected your PCB, manually select the HEX file that you compiled previously and then flash it. That should do the trick.
In case anybody is interested, I've adapted the ISO plate file to an ANSI - Split spacebar one
Disclaimer:
NOT TESTED - DON'T COME CRYING TO ME IF DOESN'T WORK
Has anyone not received any tracking info yet? Or is it just me?
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I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.Good to see lots are contributing to make this VIA compatible.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141
In case anybody is interested, I've adapted the ISO plate file to an ANSI - Split spacebar one
Disclaimer:
NOT TESTED - DON'T COME CRYING TO ME IF DOESN'T WORK
Is it possible you can make an ANSI 7u space bar file? I got the wrong plate in my order so i'm just sitting here with a beautiful paper weight till I can get a new plate or pcb.
He can simply print it then test fit on pcbIn case anybody is interested, I've adapted the ISO plate file to an ANSI - Split spacebar one
Disclaimer:
NOT TESTED - DON'T COME CRYING TO ME IF DOESN'T WORK
Is it possible you can make an ANSI 7u space bar file? I got the wrong plate in my order so i'm just sitting here with a beautiful paper weight till I can get a new plate or pcb.
Senter is going to release the plate files soon and I recommend that you wait. But if you are really desperate, I have adapted the 7u ISO plate file to ANSI. IT IS NOT TESTED. I will not take responsibility if you end up with another piece of paperweight.
senter just updated his website.what are these files?
7u MX ANSI:
https://fox-lab.github.io/assets/files/Key_65_MX_7u.dxf
6.25u MX ANSI:
https://fox-lab.github.io/assets/files/Key_65_MX_6.25u.dxf
https://fox-lab.github.io/gbs/Key-65.html
Platesenter just updated his website.what are these files?
7u MX ANSI:
https://fox-lab.github.io/assets/files/Key_65_MX_7u.dxf
6.25u MX ANSI:
https://fox-lab.github.io/assets/files/Key_65_MX_6.25u.dxf
https://fox-lab.github.io/gbs/Key-65.html
For some reason, even with this as the keymap, my caps, ctrl, win, and alt keys stay default. Other keys change just fine. Anyone have any ideas?Don't know if anyone has responded to you, but you may have to clear eeprom through QMK Toolbox.
(Attachment Link)
There are some 3M paddings included. One st is little ones - 16 of them are needed for gaskets (8 leaves, 2 sides each) - those are the short ones. But there is also a set of 8 long ones. What are those for?
There are some 3M paddings included. One st is little ones - 16 of them are needed for gaskets (8 leaves, 2 sides each) - those are the short ones. But there is also a set of 8 long ones. What are those for?
Its for the middle / bottom case
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141
I did via PR a while back for both hotswap and universal, tested both. Seems to be working fine just waiting for a merge I guess. Though didn't PR QMK.
Ah so you did. I'm happy to close mine and leave yours to be merged, though you'll want to link it to my QMK PR for completeness (or do your own). Leave a comment on my VIA PR with what you'd think is better, and I can update the productIds accordingly if needed.
Ah so you did. I'm happy to close mine and leave yours to be merged, though you'll want to link it to my QMK PR for completeness (or do your own). Leave a comment on my VIA PR with what you'd think is better, and I can update the productIds accordingly if needed.
I don't mind too much, though I'd probably prefer keeping mine open since I've tested both and I'm assuming your qmk pr are just the files that senter didn't merge himself. I did link your QMK PR on the via one though. :D
Cool, closed the VIA PR. The QMK one was converted from the kbfirmware json and has some manual TLC, esp on the universal PCB.Ah that's great to hear.
Mine has been "on hold" 3 times so far. Was supposed to arrive today.Mine hasn't moved from hongkong since May 11th :(
Mine has been "on hold" 3 times so far. Was supposed to arrive today.Mine hasn't moved from hongkong since May 11th :(
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Nice and boring grey.
Mill max sockets. Trying out 67g Zilents. Assembling/lubing pandas. Cutting a reset switch. Figuring out why qmk wouldn't recognize it. whew, i'm done.
buuuuuuut it sounds great, feels great, and I am happy with it.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/y7RPQXB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BZP9LLi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RmaR0yq.jpg)
triple "on hold" as well. Absolute bummer.Mine has been "on hold" 3 times so far. Was supposed to arrive today.Mine hasn't moved from hongkong since May 11th :(
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Well ****, just saw mine was on hold too :(
PCB mount stabilisersNice and boring grey.
Mill max sockets. Trying out 67g Zilents. Assembling/lubing pandas. Cutting a reset switch. Figuring out why qmk wouldn't recognize it. whew, i'm done.
buuuuuuut it sounds great, feels great, and I am happy with it.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/y7RPQXB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BZP9LLi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RmaR0yq.jpg)
Hey quick question, are the stabilizers plate or pcb mounted? Haven't received mine yet but I'm ordering some keycaps and switches now.
Anyone have more information about these special Key65s posted on zFrontier? https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21258
Anyone have more information about these special Key65s posted on zFrontier? https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21258
Damn those are nice - that fox logo is sick
got an update on dhl, it's now been on hold for four times now and was expecting it today :(
got an update on dhl, it's now been on hold for four times now and was expecting it today :(
Same thing here.
got an update on dhl, it's now been on hold for four times now and was expecting it today :(
Same thing here.
I'm on the fourth hold too... most recently today with an estimated arrival date of today, which if it truely is still in HK makes absolutely no sense. I understand the situation makes shipping a struggle but I really don't understand how the shipping estimation is this messed up.
got an update on dhl, it's now been on hold for four times now and was expecting it today :(
Same thing here.
I'm on the fourth hold too... most recently today with an estimated arrival date of today, which if it truely is still in HK makes absolutely no sense. I understand the situation makes shipping a struggle but I really don't understand how the shipping estimation is this messed up.
got an update on dhl, it's now been on hold for four times now and was expecting it today :(
Same thing here.
I'm on the fourth hold too... most recently today with an estimated arrival date of today, which if it truely is still in HK makes absolutely no sense. I understand the situation makes shipping a struggle but I really don't understand how the shipping estimation is this messed up.
It's because that plane is going to make a runway out of your street
My sorbothane sheet finally arrived. I stuffed that space right below the spacebar and now the spacebar sounds lovely and consistent like the rest of the board. Highly recommended I say!
Anyone have more information about these special Key65s posted on zFrontier? https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21258
I'm having an issue with one of the hotswap sockets on my board being dead, the one right above the right arrow key, not sure how to proceed. I've tested it with other switches and tried to manually test it with tweezers but it seems like the socket is full on dead. Anyone have any suggestions?Adding a bit of solder to the sockets connection might help, also check if there is a missing diode next to the switch traces, sometimes they come loose, at least that happened to me on the NK65
I'm having an issue with one of the hotswap sockets on my board being dead, the one right above the right arrow key, not sure how to proceed. I've tested it with other switches and tried to manually test it with tweezers but it seems like the socket is full on dead. Anyone have any suggestions?Adding a bit of solder to the sockets connection might help, also check if there is a missing diode next to the switch traces, sometimes they come loose, at least that happened to me on the NK65
I'm having an issue with one of the hotswap sockets on my board being dead, the one right above the right arrow key, not sure how to proceed. I've tested it with other switches and tried to manually test it with tweezers but it seems like the socket is full on dead. Anyone have any suggestions?could be because that's set to Fn by default
I'm having an issue with one of the hotswap sockets on my board being dead, the one right above the right arrow key, not sure how to proceed. I've tested it with other switches and tried to manually test it with tweezers but it seems like the socket is full on dead. Anyone have any suggestions?could be because that's set to Fn by default
Anyone have more information about these special Key65s posted on zFrontier? https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21258
Are you talking about backlighting or underglow lighting? Blacklighting I can't help you with but the PCB doesn't have underglow LEDs unless you solder on a strip.
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141
I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141
I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.
Not what I had intended :)) Is this the case on both the universal and hotswap?
Mine came not flawless :(
https://imgur.com/a/yDs4Hzt
I notice 2 scratch and the alum color is visibleShow Image(https://imgur.com/er1eL2u)
Mine also just came in. Had to pay an extra 80zł (~20$) VAT, but then it arrived the next day.Hi quick question,
Holy-moly this thing is niiiice. The e-coat is immaculate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lgPSJnJ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FpRT68V.jpg)
Unfortunately, the PCB came in a little scuffed. Hopefully it's functional (will test later).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5mZgIHt.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z5sONmM.jpg)
It also seems that the reset button was already cut down.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EF0yXuS.jpg)
The key corner logo is perfect, though. I'm so happy. :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jarxUTl.jpg)
E-white is a very nice shade; bright and milky. Here's a color comparison with a box of sweets. I'll be putting KAT Milkshake on it once that arrives, so hopefully it matches well. :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QRwjlZf.jpg)
Here's the full gallery if you need more: https://imgur.com/gallery/RE5NojO
Mine also just came in. Had to pay an extra 80zł (~20$) VAT, but then it arrived the next day.Hi quick question,
Holy-moly this thing is niiiice. The e-coat is immaculate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lgPSJnJ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FpRT68V.jpg)
Unfortunately, the PCB came in a little scuffed. Hopefully it's functional (will test later).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5mZgIHt.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z5sONmM.jpg)
It also seems that the reset button was already cut down.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EF0yXuS.jpg)
The key corner logo is perfect, though. I'm so happy. :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jarxUTl.jpg)
E-white is a very nice shade; bright and milky. Here's a color comparison with a box of sweets. I'll be putting KAT Milkshake on it once that arrives, so hopefully it matches well. :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QRwjlZf.jpg)
Here's the full gallery if you need more: https://imgur.com/gallery/RE5NojO
My board was delivered to a friend, he was not able to find the gaskets.
Is the black plate like thingy the gasket?
I thought it was the foam which would go between the pcb and plate.
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Hi quick question,You are correct. That is the foam (but it feels more like rubber) that is sandwiched between the plate and PCB. The gaskets and the bumpons were packed in a small plastic bag. They're translucent and were packaged on the top layer of the box along with the gloves and alcohol pads.
My board was delivered to a friend, he was not able to find the gaskets.
Is the black plate like thingy the gasket?
I thought it was the foam which would go between the pcb and plate.
Thanks for the clearing that up so quick :)Hi quick question,You are correct. That is the foam (but it feels more like rubber) that is sandwiched between the plate and PCB. The gaskets and the bumpons were packed in a small plastic bag. They're translucent and were packaged on the top layer of the box along with the gloves and alcohol pads.
My board was delivered to a friend, he was not able to find the gaskets.
Is the black plate like thingy the gasket?
I thought it was the foam which would go between the pcb and plate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CBkcyc1.jpg)
Seems like all of the keyboards going to the east coast are going to come together since I have had a "Shipment on Hold" status just like some others on the east coast.
Seems like all of the keyboards going to the east coast are going to come together since I have had a "Shipment on Hold" status just like some others on the east coast.
I called DHL about my package (coming to CHI) because I also have a laundry list of "Shipment on hold" statuses, and they told me that Hong Kong currently only allows a certain quantity of packages to be sent out per day. They also said they might not update the estimated delivery date and also don't know when the package would ship.
I sort of assumed this was the case, so we have no choice but to continue playing the waiting game for now...
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141
I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.
Not what I had intended :)) Is this the case on both the universal and hotswap?
Yea it is. Fixed it up myself but I wasn't sure if it was intentional. I haven't tested the universal sicne I don't have led's on it, but I noticed it's the same function.
Tracking says shipment information received since May 7th but I got it today so yeah, DHL’s a mess right now.What country?
I received it yesterday and DHL website still says shipment information received. So please take the tracking information with a grain if salt.Tracking says shipment information received since May 7th but I got it today so yeah, DHL’s a mess right now.What country?
I received it yesterday and DHL website still says shipment information received. So please take the tracking information with a grain if salt.Tracking says shipment information received since May 7th but I got it today so yeah, DHL’s a mess right now.What country?
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I received it yesterday and DHL website still says shipment information received. So please take the tracking information with a grain if salt.Tracking says shipment information received since May 7th but I got it today so yeah, DHL’s a mess right now.What country?
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Mine didn't have an estimate, it still says shipment information received and no estimateI received it yesterday and DHL website still says shipment information received. So please take the tracking information with a grain if salt.Tracking says shipment information received since May 7th but I got it today so yeah, DHL’s a mess right now.What country?
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what was your estimated delivery date though on the website?
Received my package yesterday (excited),but no tools to open the case.
Can anyone tell me what size of (hex) wrench I need?
The one I used just says 2.0 on it. but yeah it is a hex tip
Have some issues on my plate.It's possible that those may eventually rust, you could probably apply a thin coat of clear fingernail polish if you are concerned.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZyqQZcP.jpg)
Seems these two parts are untreated. Will they rust?
Have some issues on my plate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZyqQZcP.jpg)
Seems these two parts are untreated. Will they rust?
Finally built mine. Its my first time to use a gasket/sandwich mount keyboard. Really loving it!Sweet build. Love how the pink plate peeks out from in between the keycaps.
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There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303
There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303
I won't call it Key65 as there's no key logo or the kanji logo on it.
There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303
I won't call it Key65 as there's no key logo or the kanji logo on it.
There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303
I won't call it Key65 as there's no key logo or the kanji logo on it.
I have a Key65 but would love to pick up a Fox Logo one as well! Bring on Fox65 Senter :p
Any chance you will release a 75% next?There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303
I won't call it Key65 as there's no key logo or the kanji logo on it.
I have a Key65 but would love to pick up a Fox Logo one as well! Bring on Fox65 Senter
The fox logo was not designed by me. A friend designed it. I only made several kits with that logo.
Personally I like the key logo better. I also designed a similar lock logo for potential future keyboard kits.
Anyone else having some pcb issues? Everytime I push 'X' my kb shuts off.
You'll need to open the case trim the reset switch with wire cutters then youll be all good.
You need to get the via firmware someone posted above and load the json in VIA. Will probably be a while for it to be officially pulled into QMK and VIA.
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You need to get the via firmware someone posted above and load the json in VIA. Will probably be a while for it to be officially pulled into QMK and VIA.
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Using camphone only
There is no place to solder the led under the pcb. Is there a way to install the led under pcb?(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.
It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.
I thought we had guidance from Senter about assembly in the original post or something. Trying to assemble this blind with maybe cutouts here on the foam, maybe cutouts there just makes me rather uncomfortable. For a board that took cost $400 and took six months to receive, we should have assembly instructions set-in-stone. Just going off the notifications I have received in the past two weeks about people's builds, I'm still not totally sure what's "correct" and what's not in terms of the order of gasket, plate, and case...
In other news, I saw you said you received your kit. Any pics - I want to see what you mean by the glossyness.
Yeah I was a tiny bit annoyed at the lack of the build guide. Would definitely be more reassuring to have a guide on where to put what and how to flash your PCB all in one place, especially since I'm coming off my Polaris.
As you can see in the picture, the red isn't exactly as matte as the black, but it's not serious enough to make me regret buying it.
Edit: For flashing on QMK, go to the site that senter linked in the post and download the JSON file and load it up to kbdfirmware. After you finish mapping, compile it into a HEX file and download it. Once done, boot up QMK firmware, connect your PCB and reset it. Once QMK has detected your PCB, manually select the HEX file that you compiled previously and then flash it. That should do the trick.
Will there be extra tops/plates for purchase?Plates probably, can't really say anything about tops
+1 for 75% as well.Any chance you will release a 75% next?There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303
I won't call it Key65 as there's no key logo or the kanji logo on it.
I have a Key65 but would love to pick up a Fox Logo one as well! Bring on Fox65 Senter
The fox logo was not designed by me. A friend designed it. I only made several kits with that logo.
Personally I like the key logo better. I also designed a similar lock logo for potential future keyboard kits.
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There is no place to solder the led under the pcb. Is there a way to install the led under pcb?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)
Ws2812BThere is no place to solder the led under the pcb. Is there a way to install the led under pcb?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)
What kind of LED strip is that?
Ws2812BThere is no place to solder the led under the pcb. Is there a way to install the led under pcb?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)
What kind of LED strip is that?
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Believe it was fn + q / w / e / rWs2812BThere is no place to solder the led under the pcb. Is there a way to install the led under pcb?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)
What kind of LED strip is that?
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Is it possible to change the brightness and turn off/on the lightstrip through a keybind with firmware? If so, what QMK keycodes are used?
Just finished the build but I’m having clearance issues with the spacebar stabiliser bar hitting the plate. I have the 7U hotswap PCB.
Anyone else having this issue and any solutions?
A build guide would've helped avoid unnecessary confusion.Just finished the build but I’m having clearance issues with the spacebar stabiliser bar hitting the plate. I have the 7U hotswap PCB.
Anyone else having this issue and any solutions?
Silly question, but just making sure: did you install the gaskets correctly?
Just finished the build but I’m having clearance issues with the spacebar stabiliser bar hitting the plate. I have the 7U hotswap PCB.
Anyone else having this issue and any solutions?
Silly question, but just making sure: did you install the gaskets correctly?
Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.It'll show up suddenly without any updates, atleast that's what happened to me.
Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.There's a DHL tracking # in the PayPal email. For me, this number still states that shipping info isn't received.
Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.There's a DHL tracking # in the PayPal email. For me, this number still states that shipping info isn't received.
I don't use that number.
After signing up for SMS notifications on the original tracking #, I received an SMS with a different tracking #.
This new tracking # actually gives me information.
Perhaps you (along with the others who have the same experience) need to do the same thing.
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Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.don't worry - i had this issue several times(including now - waiting since may 13th), when ordering from china! I got kind of used to waiting for 3-4+weeks
Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.There's a DHL tracking # in the PayPal email. For me, this number still states that shipping info isn't received.
I don't use that number.
After signing up for SMS notifications on the original tracking #, I received an SMS with a different tracking #.
This new tracking # actually gives me information.
Perhaps you (along with the others who have the same experience) need to do the same thing.
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After signing up for SMS notifications on the original tracking #, I received an SMS with a different tracking #.
This new tracking # actually gives me information.
Perhaps you (along with the others who have the same experience) need to do the same thing.
Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.There's a DHL tracking # in the PayPal email. For me, this number still states that shipping info isn't received.
I don't use that number.
After signing up for SMS notifications on the original tracking #, I received an SMS with a different tracking #.
This new tracking # actually gives me information.
Perhaps you (along with the others who have the same experience) need to do the same thing.
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Same experience here. My board has been on hold in HK for a week now, waiting for room on a plane for transit.
I got mine in California on Monday, text came sometime last week I don't remember. I had the same thing where the tracking number in the text was the one that actually tracked it.
Built mine a few days ago, and finally got around to taking some glamour shots and a noob's type test.
It's my best sounding and feeling keyboard so far! I hope everyone enjoys theirs!
Thanks Senter/Fox Lab!
Built mine a few days ago, and finally got around to taking some glamour shots and a noob's type test.
It's my best sounding and feeling keyboard so far! I hope everyone enjoys theirs!
Thanks Senter/Fox Lab!
Gateron Black Inks (Krytox 205g0)
Top/Mid/Bot: E-white
Plate: Brass (E-white)
Weight/Logo: Brass (E-black)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Io7EWtF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/y2XSVSH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/roq8cK0.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DjDyRhq.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HxXTXlP.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VpKjoXB.jpg)
Type Test: https://streamable.com/tf1raa
I'm still stuck in shipment on hold hellSame here, shipment on hold for over a week already! :-[
I'm still stuck in shipment on hold hellSame here, shipment on hold for over a week already! :-[
I'm still stuck in shipment on hold hellSame here, shipment on hold for over a week already! :-[
Is this your first group buy as well?
Looks like problem to US only? I have another key65 to be delivered on Tuesday. Its already here in PH.
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Can someone PLEASE put an entire build video on YouTube for this keyboard I have no idea how to build it.....There is a twitch build stream posted few page back.
Can someone PLEASE put an entire build video on YouTube for this keyboard I have no idea how to build it.....
Just want to confirm, use 8 short gaskets on top, 8 short gaskets and 6 long gaskets on middle case, so the total gaskets used should be 16 short and 6 long ones right?Check the starting post, gasket positions are provided :)
Just want to confirm, use 8 short gaskets on top, 8 short gaskets and 6 long gaskets on middle case, so the total gaskets used should be 16 short and 6 long ones right?Check the starting post, gasket positions are provided :)
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Just want to confirm, use 8 short gaskets on top, 8 short gaskets and 6 long gaskets on middle case, so the total gaskets used should be 16 short and 6 long ones right?Check the starting post, gasket positions are provided :)
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Still not clear whether to use 8 short gaskets on either top / middle case or 8 on each top and middle case (so 16 in total).
Edit: After watching the linked stream I guess I should use 16 of them.
Does the pcb have another reset method if i remove the reset button?
Looks like problem to US only? I have another key65 to be delivered on Tuesday. Its already here in PH.
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Yes, DHL told me when I called that there's only X number of shipments going to the US per day, and our parcels just have to wait for a spot.
Don't want to come off as condescending, but it isn't hard to build at all.
I went and put the gaskets on the case parts, since you can't swap out PCB/plates otherwise. The different methods contact the same places, so they should all work out.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/XqK5DqJ.png)
Don't want to come off as condescending, but it isn't hard to build at all.
i have a question about my board. when I hold down the F Key like if im playing a game where that key bind requires me to hold it down for a certain amount of time my board loses its functionality and disconnects, LEDs stay on. is this an issue or am i activating a modifier ? im using the modifier button from the stock flash set up
Departed Facility in HONG KONG :p :p :)) :)) Finally, it's moving
Departed Facility in HONG KONG :p :p :)) :)) Finally, it's moving
Departed Facility in HONG KONG :p :p :)) :)) Finally, it's moving
Aww yeah, mine has moved as well! Strange I didn't get a text notification this time around.
Departed Facility in HONG KONG :p :p :)) :)) Finally, it's moving
Aww yeah, mine has moved as well! Strange I didn't get a text notification this time around.
As I was screwing in the last screw I think it striped on me and won't tighten is there a fix for this or is that a total loss :(You over tighten it, lost its thread. Maybe you can use a little wider screw. Wait for other's opinion.
As I was screwing in the last screw I think it striped on me and won't tighten is there a fix for this or is that a total loss :(You over tighten it, lost its thread. Maybe you can use a little wider screw. Wait for other's opinion.
Is it PC?
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Does anyone of you have a weird 'Pink' colour on their board?Im happy with the color. Mine have pink logo, plate, bottom
I am kinda sad that it turned out to look more salmon than the pink in the render....
Have some issues on my plate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZyqQZcP.jpg)
Seems these two parts are untreated. Will they rust?
Have some issues on my plate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZyqQZcP.jpg)
Seems these two parts are untreated. Will they rust?
Same here.
It's not too visible but the surface is not coated ^^.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SVmUtBS.jpg)
Here is a big scratch of a tool :sShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/cFVnAqZ.jpg)
And a failling pcb :sShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZiY82wt.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zGtT1jZ.jpg)
One key press => two keys pressed. I reflashed with QMK but no effect.
Someone have his email address please?
Thank you :s
Mine just arrived!Nice! Hoping that I will get lucky and the next shipment will include NYC orders.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RoMh3to.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3HLk0Ph.jpg)
As I was screwing in the last screw I think it striped on me and won't tighten is there a fix for this or is that a total loss :(
Do plate clip-in stabs work in this board? I have ordered screw in stabs but due to shipping issues, they seem to have gotten lost in the mail.Nope
I have two Key 65, two alu plates, one titanium plate, and one PC plate. One alu plate is thick and heavy, the other is thin and light. The difference is quite noticeable. Does anyone else have a thick alu plate? Not complaining, at all. Both sound great. Maybe my thick alu plate is actually brass.
I have two Key 65, two alu plates, one titanium plate, and one PC plate. One alu plate is thick and heavy, the other is thin and light. The difference is quite noticeable. Does anyone else have a thick alu plate? Not complaining, at all. Both sound great. Maybe my thick alu plate is actually brass.
have pic?
I have two Key 65, two alu plates, one titanium plate, and one PC plate. One alu plate is thick and heavy, the other is thin and light. The difference is quite noticeable. Does anyone else have a thick alu plate? Not complaining, at all. Both sound great. Maybe my thick alu plate is actually brass.
have pic?
https://imgur.com/a/FJN3Ivh
The teal plate is much heavier and has like no flex, the black plate is very light and flexes a lot. I'm happy with the difference. The weight difference is very noticeable. I am not using the dampener with the black plate because it had so much more flex, I figure I'd go without it for some "clacks" while the teal plate gives the "thocks."
Perhaps "thick" was not the best descriptor, it is more the weight difference. I don't want to take these apart for science quite yet, though.
no update from DHL in more than 2 weeks now :blank:
no update from DHL in more than 2 weeks now :blank:
I just got movement on my package. It took over 2.5 weeks for me.
no update from DHL in more than 2 weeks now :blank:
I just got movement on my package. It took over 2.5 weeks for me.
glad to hear that! makes me less nervous :thumb:
no update from DHL in more than 2 weeks now :blank:
I just got movement on my package. It took over 2.5 weeks for me.
glad to hear that! makes me less nervous :thumb:
no update from DHL in more than 2 weeks now :blank:
I just got movement on my package. It took over 2.5 weeks for me.
glad to hear that! makes me less nervous :thumb:
so, ironically, mine arrived today with no text message or anything! DHL's tracking # wasn't even updated after delivery. so be prepared for this thing to just show up folks.
gorgeous keyboard. really regret not getting a hotswap pcb right now because i want to build this ASAP but have to wait until after i lube some keys.
Another cool find from zFrontier of someone modding their PCB to have a 4x LED on the top left key like the Think6.5. https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21612Looks like its from space65
Anyone know where one could buy PCB with 4 LEDs from?
Every Fox Lab GB thread is so active, I love it.
split backspace not working. how can i modify this wiring?
i was finally able to build my key65 last night. coming from a kbd75, i was blown away by how good a keyboard can sound and feel.
@spring4k also had some troubles, getting the split backspace to work, but managed to fix it eventually, by soldering in a small cable, from the top to the bottom pad. filling it up, as described by senter, didn't really work out for me, or more likely, my soldering skills ;-)
@zeldris23 flash the "via" qmk layout and you can remap the keys on the fly with the corresponding software
i was finally able to build my key65 last night. coming from a kbd75, i was blown away by how good a keyboard can sound and feel.
@spring4k also had some troubles, getting the split backspace to work, but managed to fix it eventually, by soldering in a small cable, from the top to the bottom pad. filling it up, as described by senter, didn't really work out for me, or more likely, my soldering skills ;-)
@zeldris23 flash the "via" qmk layout and you can remap the keys on the fly with the corresponding software
Sorry but i do not understand..
I've already downloaded the VIA application but it didnt detect the keyboard so im kinda stuck to what to do next..
You need to download the hex file from caniusevia, flash it using qmk. Run VIA and it will be detected.i was finally able to build my key65 last night. coming from a kbd75, i was blown away by how good a keyboard can sound and feel.
@spring4k also had some troubles, getting the split backspace to work, but managed to fix it eventually, by soldering in a small cable, from the top to the bottom pad. filling it up, as described by senter, didn't really work out for me, or more likely, my soldering skills ;-)
@zeldris23 flash the "via" qmk layout and you can remap the keys on the fly with the corresponding software
Sorry but i do not understand..
I've already downloaded the VIA application but it didnt detect the keyboard so im kinda stuck to what to do next..
I was going to flash my hotswap PCB with the VIA hex file but I wanted to confirm if this board uses the "atmega32u4" microcontroller? I could not find anything in this thread which specified the micro controller for the hotswap PCB
Edit - Nevermind. I was able to figure it out.
Is it as simple as just loading the key65 VIA HEX on qmk toolbox and flashing it?Yup pretty much what you've to do.
Is it as simple as just loading the key65 VIA HEX on qmk toolbox and flashing it?Yup pretty much what you've to do.
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Anyone here running into issues with their board? Didn't know where to post about it. I am getting two different key inputs when I actuate anything on the 12th and 13th column of the board. For example if I press the left bracket key "[" I get both brackets and if press the right bracket key "]" I'll also get both brackets.
Examples of the inputs are:
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I am using the 7u hot-swap board. I already updated the board with the hex file provided on the thread.
Any help is appreciated.
Loving the build quality! My only issue is I cannot get it to show in VIA, I have flashed with qmk.Download the correct hex file in caniusevia then flash in using qmk. Via will detect it after.
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
Ported my hotswap PCB to VIA, it was super simple.Did you try using the hex file from the via webpage? It was peer reviewed and should have this functionality working.
When I first started VIA, all the factory default keys showed up, and changing the keymaps was really simple.
However, when I go to load the JSON file provided by Senter on the first page, it says "Could not load file: invalid data"
I wanted to load the JSON to see what the layout for the lighting buttons were.
Right now, the only thing I can do for the lighting is turn them on and off, and adjust brightness.
I also tried assigning the other keys under "QMK LIGHTING" and non of them really do anything.
Mine looks exactly like the picture Ipse posted on page 26, and dont know how to change the lighting... lol
If anyone knows how to assign perkey lighting, or knows how to toggle backlight modes, please let me know.
I can't get my board to be recognized by QMK, any tips?
Ported my hotswap PCB to VIA, it was super simple.Did you try using the hex file from the via webpage? It was peer reviewed and should have this functionality working.
When I first started VIA, all the factory default keys showed up, and changing the keymaps was really simple.
However, when I go to load the JSON file provided by Senter on the first page, it says "Could not load file: invalid data"
I wanted to load the JSON to see what the layout for the lighting buttons were.
Right now, the only thing I can do for the lighting is turn them on and off, and adjust brightness.
I also tried assigning the other keys under "QMK LIGHTING" and non of them really do anything.
Mine looks exactly like the picture Ipse posted on page 26, and dont know how to change the lighting... lol
If anyone knows how to assign perkey lighting, or knows how to toggle backlight modes, please let me know.
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For those are still getting in trouble with firmware
1. You can not use the json files attached by Senter in QMK configurator. It is only usable here >> https://kbfirmware.com, download the hex file then flash at QMK tollbox
2. Easiest way is download the corresponding hex file in https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware, flash in QMK toolbox. Then run VIA. The program will now detect your keyboard and start remapping.
Update on the firmware:I what you said and when I launch VIA i get the "searching for devices" for a while. Did I do something wrong? QMK Toolbox seemed like it worked. I'm using the hot swap board.
I've tested the VIA firmware. It works great.
- Download QMK toolbox (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases).
- Download the Key65 VIA firmware (the hex file) here: https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware/
- Flash the VIA hex file using the QMK toolbox. You need to press Fn+ESC before the flashing.
- Download VIA: https://github.com/the-via/releases/releases
- Open VIA then it should detect your keyboard.
Seems like you need to re-flash it since it would be automatically detected almost instantly by Via when you launch the app.Update on the firmware:I what you said and when I launch VIA i get the "searching for devices" for a while. Did I do something wrong? QMK Toolbox seemed like it worked. I'm using the hot swap board.
I've tested the VIA firmware. It works great.
- Download QMK toolbox (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases).
- Download the Key65 VIA firmware (the hex file) here: https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware/
- Flash the VIA hex file using the QMK toolbox. You need to press Fn+ESC before the flashing.
- Download VIA: https://github.com/the-via/releases/releases
- Open VIA then it should detect your keyboard.
I downloaded the "foxlab_key65_hotswap_default_b3810c59.hex" and tried to re-flash multiple times. I ended up getting to remap the keys using kbfirmware but I cant seem to get the back lighting to work.Seems like you need to re-flash it since it would be automatically detected almost instantly by Via when you launch the app.Update on the firmware:I what you said and when I launch VIA i get the "searching for devices" for a while. Did I do something wrong? QMK Toolbox seemed like it worked. I'm using the hot swap board.
I've tested the VIA firmware. It works great.
- Download QMK toolbox (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases).
- Download the Key65 VIA firmware (the hex file) here: https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware/
- Flash the VIA hex file using the QMK toolbox. You need to press Fn+ESC before the flashing.
- Download VIA: https://github.com/the-via/releases/releases
- Open VIA then it should detect your keyboard.
While I wait to get the universal PCB that I ordered, does anyone in the US have a hot-swap plate that I could buy?Plate files have been released here :
Or have the plate files been released so that I could order my own?
I downloaded the "foxlab_key65_hotswap_default_b3810c59.hex" and tried to re-flash multiple times. I ended up getting to remap the keys using kbfirmware but I cant seem to get the back lighting to work.Seems like you need to re-flash it since it would be automatically detected almost instantly by Via when you launch the app.Update on the firmware:I what you said and when I launch VIA i get the "searching for devices" for a while. Did I do something wrong? QMK Toolbox seemed like it worked. I'm using the hot swap board.
I've tested the VIA firmware. It works great.
- Download QMK toolbox (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases).
- Download the Key65 VIA firmware (the hex file) here: https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware/
- Flash the VIA hex file using the QMK toolbox. You need to press Fn+ESC before the flashing.
- Download VIA: https://github.com/the-via/releases/releases
- Open VIA then it should detect your keyboard.
EDIT: I figured it out through kbfirmware, thanks for the help!
Can someone chime in on the sound of a titanium plate vs brass or alu? I just bought one of these from a friend and his came with a titanium plate and I don't know what to think of it
Many people asked me if there will be a round 2 (no) and why not. I guess I need to give a public answer here.
Firstly, Key65 was not a limited GB. The IC was long enough that anyone care about the community would see it. The GB period was long enough that anyone wanted to join can join. It was a long journey to get the 600 kits manufactured and shipped in this special time. I'm deeply grateful for those who patiently waited and who had faith on me. I'm not interested in making their wait a little less meaningful by running a much quicker group buy for the same design.
Secondly, I'm not interested in running the group buys for the same design. I've mentioned it many times. I don't want to run a group buy if there's nothing new.
That being said, I do plan to run a group buy for Time 80% in the near future. The concept is the same but all the details have been improved. It will be a totally different Time. I'll IC it and collect feedbacks soon.
Can we get the plate files instead?
Can anyone tell me what the default function key is on the standard layout? Soldered boardHS was right above the right arrow.
Can anyone tell me what the default function key is on the standard layout? Soldered boardHS was right above the right arrow.
In regards to your other question, about the reset button, you should desolder if possible. Heat the joints from the top and pull with tweezers.
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Yes, the solder pcb has one. You should desolder it and remove it bc it will get pressed through normal use and prevent your keyboard from functioning.Can anyone tell me what the default function key is on the standard layout? Soldered boardHS was right above the right arrow.
In regards to your other question, about the reset button, you should desolder if possible. Heat the joints from the top and pull with tweezers.
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Thank you but it's a soldered board does that mean there is no physical reset button that could be getting constantly pushed?
Is there a limit on the cable length for this keyboard? Asking because I'm using a 6 feet cable with 6 inches of coils, and I keep experiencing disconnects on it while playing Valorant. Haven't run into this with any of my other keyboards though.
I have a problem my bottom right arrow key isn't working and I think I see why but I have no idea how or if this is fixable. The little black part of this thing in the picture is missing from the bottom right arrow.Diode was stripped off. Its not easy to fix. You need to replace it or use jumper wires to tap on the correct trace
Missing black thingy https://imgur.com/a/glQkHa7
Is there a limit on the cable length for this keyboard? Asking because I'm using a 6 feet cable with 6 inches of coils, and I keep experiencing disconnects on it while playing Valorant. Haven't run into this with any of my other keyboards though.
Did you remove the reset switch on the back of the board? It sits right under your WASD keys and if its still there you could be pressing it while using the keyboard if you push down too hard. Which will cause the kb to stop responding until you unplug and plug it back in.
Is there a limit on the cable length for this keyboard? Asking because I'm using a 6 feet cable with 6 inches of coils, and I keep experiencing disconnects on it while playing Valorant. Haven't run into this with any of my other keyboards though.
Did you remove the reset switch on the back of the board? It sits right under your WASD keys and if its still there you could be pressing it while using the keyboard if you push down too hard. Which will cause the kb to stop responding until you unplug and plug it back in.
Is the button on the top of the PCB or the underside?
I have a problem my bottom right arrow key isn't working and I think I see why but I have no idea how or if this is fixable. The little black part of this thing in the picture is missing from the bottom right arrow.Diode was stripped off. Its not easy to fix. You need to replace it or use jumper wires to tap on the correct trace
Missing black thingy https://imgur.com/a/glQkHa7
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Can somebody chime in which direction their stab wire is for the enter key, specifically a hot swap pcb? Since PCB mount stabs only go one direction its forcing my wire to be south facing so the rubber damper doesn't fit. Yea not a big deal, I can mod the dampener just curious. I'm looking at a pic of the solder PCB and its north facing which matches the cutout of the dampener.
Can somebody chime in which direction their stab wire is for the enter key, specifically a hot swap pcb? Since PCB mount stabs only go one direction its forcing my wire to be south facing so the rubber damper doesn't fit. Yea not a big deal, I can mod the dampener just curious. I'm looking at a pic of the solder PCB and its north facing which matches the cutout of the dampener.
Like you said, the PCB mount stabs go one direction, the hook part is the larger hole, and the screw-in part is the smaller hole.
You have the orientation of the stab correct, you just have to trim the rubber a bit, I had to do this and it fixed the issue.
Just take a box cutter and trim it so that the portion hitting the wire.
Has anyone managed to get in contact with Senter about pcbs for people who want to build with split backspace? I send him my info but never heard back
Is the plate file available?
Just an update, I got an email confirming my shipping address for a replacement solder PCB. Thanks senter for resolving the issue! :)Hoping to receive too!
The plate files are not the correct. The stabilizers for the Enter Key are in the wrong spot. It's for a ISO enter key I think. We need the correct plate files, It's also not registering the size on Laser Boost. I have the hot swap version which is 7U, I want to get a couple plates made, I can't right now until this is fixed. I don't know how to get a hold of them. Hopefully they see it here.Did you check here?
Finally got around to building mine, was waiting for the keycaps! Really happy with how things turned out.
I missed the group buy, but will there be a round 2 of the key65?Nope
thanks in advance and stay safe :)
When I plug my Key65 into my Laptop with QMK it is never recognized in QMK does anyone have any ideas on what can cause this or a possible fix?Press Fn+Esc then toolbox will detect it.
Finally got around to building mine, was waiting for the keycaps! Really happy with how things turned out.
info on the cable?
Hello,
I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.
I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...
Hello,
I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.
I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...
For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.
Hello,
I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.
I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...
For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.
@senter Thank you for your fast response.
I understand that the quality issues does not satisfy you but the lack of coating on the plate is very minor and invisible and the scratch caused by the tooling is already fixed with paste and paint.
These are not big issues for me, once the keyboard is assembled, everything is invisible.
I like this keyboard, I was very impatient to receive it and I don't want loose it.
I want use it. And I can't because I don't have a working pcb...
So no, I don't want a full refund, I need only a pcb exchange.
I wish I could use it one day.
Thank you.
@all Worst case scenario, does anyone know of a compatible pcb? A lot of people are already looking for a pcb on r/mechmarket... It's crazy...
Thanks.
I soldered LED Light strips to my hotswap boardYou're going to have edit the firmware to allow more LEDs. I think. I haven't attached them myself but there is an option on kbfirmware to set the number of LEDs. Or you can edit the config.h on QMK and rebuild the firmware.
I only did one strip which had 8 LEDs
I decided I was going to wire one more strip of 8. So I connected another strip using 3 wires as an extension to get the desired position. After a lot of back and forth.
Nothing worked, the 2nd strip never turned on.
Frustrated enough, I decided to redo the whole thing, make one long strip of 16 LEDs, soldered it all together, when I finally turned it on, only 8 of them lit up.
Not only that if I moved the strip around they would turn off until I unplugged and turned it back on. (Not sure if I have a bad solder, I'm still new to soldering)
But my question is, why is this PCB only allowing 8 LEDS?
I know its not the strip it self, because I cut multiple different strips to test out different things. It just wouldn't allow more than 8.
I tried a different USB cable, but I don't think that is the issue.
This has been quite frustrating, any help would be greatly appreciated.
I soldered LED Light strips to my hotswap boardYou're going to have edit the firmware to allow more LEDs. I think. I haven't attached them myself but there is an option on kbfirmware to set the number of LEDs. Or you can edit the config.h on QMK and rebuild the firmware.
I only did one strip which had 8 LEDs
I decided I was going to wire one more strip of 8. So I connected another strip using 3 wires as an extension to get the desired position. After a lot of back and forth.
Nothing worked, the 2nd strip never turned on.
Frustrated enough, I decided to redo the whole thing, make one long strip of 16 LEDs, soldered it all together, when I finally turned it on, only 8 of them lit up.
Not only that if I moved the strip around they would turn off until I unplugged and turned it back on. (Not sure if I have a bad solder, I'm still new to soldering)
But my question is, why is this PCB only allowing 8 LEDS?
I know its not the strip it self, because I cut multiple different strips to test out different things. It just wouldn't allow more than 8.
I tried a different USB cable, but I don't think that is the issue.
This has been quite frustrating, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Have you tried the fix for split bs on soldered pcbs? Dropping in solder to connect or slipping in a millmax socket? There's more info earlier in the thread.Hello,
I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.
I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...
For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.
@senter Thank you for your fast response.
I understand that the quality issues does not satisfy you but the lack of coating on the plate is very minor and invisible and the scratch caused by the tooling is already fixed with paste and paint.
These are not big issues for me, once the keyboard is assembled, everything is invisible.
I like this keyboard, I was very impatient to receive it and I don't want loose it.
I want use it. And I can't because I don't have a working pcb...
So no, I don't want a full refund, I need only a pcb exchange.
I wish I could use it one day.
Thank you.
@all Worst case scenario, does anyone know of a compatible pcb? A lot of people are already looking for a pcb on r/mechmarket... It's crazy...
Thanks.
Tada68, DZ65, KBD67, KB67MKII, NK65 are non-centered USB port.
Best thing to do is make buying post at rmm
Mine too have issue on PCB (split backspace). Like you, Senter is also ignoring my email and private message.
Unfortunately I dont have millmax or holtites.Have you tried the fix for split bs on soldered pcbs? Dropping in solder to connect or slipping in a millmax socket? There's more info earlier in the thread.Hello,
I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.
I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...
For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.
@senter Thank you for your fast response.
I understand that the quality issues does not satisfy you but the lack of coating on the plate is very minor and invisible and the scratch caused by the tooling is already fixed with paste and paint.
These are not big issues for me, once the keyboard is assembled, everything is invisible.
I like this keyboard, I was very impatient to receive it and I don't want loose it.
I want use it. And I can't because I don't have a working pcb...
So no, I don't want a full refund, I need only a pcb exchange.
I wish I could use it one day.
Thank you.
@all Worst case scenario, does anyone know of a compatible pcb? A lot of people are already looking for a pcb on r/mechmarket... It's crazy...
Thanks.
Tada68, DZ65, KBD67, KB67MKII, NK65 are non-centered USB port.
Best thing to do is make buying post at rmm
Mine too have issue on PCB (split backspace). Like you, Senter is also ignoring my email and private message.
Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk
I soldered LED Light strips to my hotswap boardYou're going to have edit the firmware to allow more LEDs. I think. I haven't attached them myself but there is an option on kbfirmware to set the number of LEDs. Or you can edit the config.h on QMK and rebuild the firmware.
I only did one strip which had 8 LEDs
I decided I was going to wire one more strip of 8. So I connected another strip using 3 wires as an extension to get the desired position. After a lot of back and forth.
Nothing worked, the 2nd strip never turned on.
Frustrated enough, I decided to redo the whole thing, make one long strip of 16 LEDs, soldered it all together, when I finally turned it on, only 8 of them lit up.
Not only that if I moved the strip around they would turn off until I unplugged and turned it back on. (Not sure if I have a bad solder, I'm still new to soldering)
But my question is, why is this PCB only allowing 8 LEDS?
I know its not the strip it self, because I cut multiple different strips to test out different things. It just wouldn't allow more than 8.
I tried a different USB cable, but I don't think that is the issue.
This has been quite frustrating, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
I soldered LED Light strips to my hotswap boardYou're going to have edit the firmware to allow more LEDs. I think. I haven't attached them myself but there is an option on kbfirmware to set the number of LEDs. Or you can edit the config.h on QMK and rebuild the firmware.
I only did one strip which had 8 LEDs
I decided I was going to wire one more strip of 8. So I connected another strip using 3 wires as an extension to get the desired position. After a lot of back and forth.
Nothing worked, the 2nd strip never turned on.
Frustrated enough, I decided to redo the whole thing, make one long strip of 16 LEDs, soldered it all together, when I finally turned it on, only 8 of them lit up.
Not only that if I moved the strip around they would turn off until I unplugged and turned it back on. (Not sure if I have a bad solder, I'm still new to soldering)
But my question is, why is this PCB only allowing 8 LEDS?
I know its not the strip it self, because I cut multiple different strips to test out different things. It just wouldn't allow more than 8.
I tried a different USB cable, but I don't think that is the issue.
This has been quite frustrating, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Also, I got the keyboard flashed, going to solder later. But I noticed now that I enabled 16 LEDs using KBDfans. It won't let me use the QMK configurator now, or use VIA. It seems I'm only locked to using KBDfans now. I could be wrong, let me know. But when looking around it seemed like KBDfans was the only place where I could change the LED light numbers. I couldn't find it on QMK configuator unless I was on the wrong website.
I soldered LED Light strips to my hotswap boardYou're going to have edit the firmware to allow more LEDs. I think. I haven't attached them myself but there is an option on kbfirmware to set the number of LEDs. Or you can edit the config.h on QMK and rebuild the firmware.
I only did one strip which had 8 LEDs
I decided I was going to wire one more strip of 8. So I connected another strip using 3 wires as an extension to get the desired position. After a lot of back and forth.
Nothing worked, the 2nd strip never turned on.
Frustrated enough, I decided to redo the whole thing, make one long strip of 16 LEDs, soldered it all together, when I finally turned it on, only 8 of them lit up.
Not only that if I moved the strip around they would turn off until I unplugged and turned it back on. (Not sure if I have a bad solder, I'm still new to soldering)
But my question is, why is this PCB only allowing 8 LEDS?
I know its not the strip it self, because I cut multiple different strips to test out different things. It just wouldn't allow more than 8.
I tried a different USB cable, but I don't think that is the issue.
This has been quite frustrating, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Also, I got the keyboard flashed, going to solder later. But I noticed now that I enabled 16 LEDs using KBDfans. It won't let me use the QMK configurator now, or use VIA. It seems I'm only locked to using KBDfans now. I could be wrong, let me know. But when looking around it seemed like KBDfans was the only place where I could change the LED light numbers. I couldn't find it on QMK configuator unless I was on the wrong website.
I'm assuming you mean kbfirmware not kbdfans.
So you will have to clone the github repo for QMK and then go find the config.h for your board universal or hotswap.
Then you will build it with "make foxlab/key65/universal:via"
Flash that firmware and you should get it working with VIA again.
Here is a firmware I just now built for you, let me know if it supports more LEDs or not because I can't test myself.
Flash whichever one you have. You may have to reset EEPROM through qmk toolbox if the firmware doesn't take.
Here is the picture of the result. Pretty happy. But yeah KB and VIA wasn't allowing me to enable NKEY rollover. So I'll figure that out in the future. Not sure if I really need it enabled or not, and not really sure if I need VIA now that I have ever thing that I need. So well see.
Hello,
I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.
I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...
For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.
@senter Thank you for your fast response.
I understand that the quality issues does not satisfy you but the lack of coating on the plate is very minor and invisible and the scratch caused by the tooling is already fixed with paste and paint.
These are not big issues for me, once the keyboard is assembled, everything is invisible.
I like this keyboard, I was very impatient to receive it and I don't want loose it.
I want use it. And I can't because I don't have a working pcb...
So no, I don't want a full refund, I need only a pcb exchange.
I wish I could use it one day.
Thank you.
@all Worst case scenario, does anyone know of a compatible pcb? A lot of people are already looking for a pcb on r/mechmarket... It's crazy...
Thanks.
Tada68, DZ65, KBD67, KB67MKII, NK65 are non-centered USB port.
Best thing to do is make buying post at rmm
Mine too have issue on PCB (split backspace). Like you, Senter is also ignoring my email and private message.
Hello,
I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.
I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...
For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.
@senter Thank you for your fast response.
I understand that the quality issues does not satisfy you but the lack of coating on the plate is very minor and invisible and the scratch caused by the tooling is already fixed with paste and paint.
These are not big issues for me, once the keyboard is assembled, everything is invisible.
I like this keyboard, I was very impatient to receive it and I don't want loose it.
I want use it. And I can't because I don't have a working pcb...
So no, I don't want a full refund, I need only a pcb exchange.
I wish I could use it one day.
Thank you.
@all Worst case scenario, does anyone know of a compatible pcb? A lot of people are already looking for a pcb on r/mechmarket... It's crazy...
Thanks.
Tada68, DZ65, KBD67, KB67MKII, NK65 are non-centered USB port.
Best thing to do is make buying post at rmm
Mine too have issue on PCB (split backspace). Like you, Senter is also ignoring my email and private message.
You could maybe use a RAMA works PCB or a Keycult pcb I'm sure if they'll be any clearance issues with the case, so you'll have to measure that out since those pcb's have daughter boards.
Though I myself am in the middle of working on a pcb that'll fit the case, simply because I'd like rgb and ws2812 and 6028 leds. I have absolutely no eta because I want to make sure it's perfect and haven't actually designed a keyboard pcb before.
The guy above me made one that can possible work with VIA. Mine doesn't. Mine you have to flash through QMK. I just set up the file on KBfirmware and went to settings to allow more LEDs.
Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.
Both of you are using hotswap pcb?Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.
my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.
my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
Both of you are using hotswap pcb?Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.
my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
Both of you are using hotswap pcb?Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.
my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
Both of you are using hotswap pcb?Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.
my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
i got mine working now. not sure why it wasn't working earlier. just made a fresh hex file.
Sometimes I need to reset my EEPROM for random problems. Try that with qmk toolbox and then flash a new hexBoth of you are using hotswap pcb?Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.
my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
i got mine working now. not sure why it wasn't working earlier. just made a fresh hex file.
Lol ok. Looks like I got a faulty pcb.
Here is the picture of the result. Pretty happy. But yeah KB and VIA wasn't allowing me to enable NKEY rollover. So I'll figure that out in the future. Not sure if I really need it enabled or not, and not really sure if I need VIA now that I have ever thing that I need. So well see.
Sometimes I need to reset my EEPROM for random problems. Try that with qmk toolbox and then flash a new hexBoth of you are using hotswap pcb?Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.
my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
i got mine working now. not sure why it wasn't working earlier. just made a fresh hex file.
Lol ok. Looks like I got a faulty pcb.
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Here is the picture of the result. Pretty happy. But yeah KB and VIA wasn't allowing me to enable NKEY rollover. So I'll figure that out in the future. Not sure if I really need it enabled or not, and not really sure if I need VIA now that I have ever thing that I need. So well see.
Can you take a picture of the bottom of the PCB and show it? I wonder how I installed RGB.
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141
I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.
Not what I had intended :)) Is this the case on both the universal and hotswap?
Yea it is. Fixed it up myself but I wasn't sure if it was intentional. I haven't tested the universal sicne I don't have led's on it, but I noticed it's the same function.
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141
I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.
Not what I had intended :)) Is this the case on both the universal and hotswap?
Yea it is. Fixed it up myself but I wasn't sure if it was intentional. I haven't tested the universal sicne I don't have led's on it, but I noticed it's the same function.
Could you fix the matrix for the universal board? I submitted a issue on github since the backspace is set to the wrong key.
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141
I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.
Not what I had intended :)) Is this the case on both the universal and hotswap?
Yea it is. Fixed it up myself but I wasn't sure if it was intentional. I haven't tested the universal sicne I don't have led's on it, but I noticed it's the same function.
Could you fix the matrix for the universal board? I submitted a issue on github since the backspace is set to the wrong key.
Sure, mind linking your issue? I can't find it on the QMK github.
Here is the picture of the result. Pretty happy. But yeah KB and VIA wasn't allowing me to enable NKEY rollover. So I'll figure that out in the future. Not sure if I really need it enabled or not, and not really sure if I need VIA now that I have ever thing that I need. So well see.
Have the non-iso plate files been released? Anyone know if there are any plans to release them?
Has anyone else experienced any bowing issues with a polycarb bottom piece, I feel like there shouldn't be gaskets stuck to the bottom of the mid piece. Here's the issue I ran into from my stream building the board. https://clips.twitch.tv/HappyDaintyVanillaCeilingCat
Has anyone else experienced any bowing issues with a polycarb bottom piece, I feel like there shouldn't be gaskets stuck to the bottom of the mid piece. Here's the issue I ran into from my stream building the board. https://clips.twitch.tv/HappyDaintyVanillaCeilingCat
Did you get this worked out? I skimmed thru your stream and looks like you double gasketed the base and mid piece? You don't need gaskets on the bottom of the mid piece which is why you didn't need to cut your own. You should have had 2 extra long pieces. I'm 98% sure anyway lol, based on building my own. I've never seen anything that was meant to be rubber on rubber.
On the hotswap board, the enter key stabs are south facing, which causes an issue with the rubber pad. It makes the rubber pad off center for all the keys below it... has anyone had this issue? I think the holes for the enter key stabs are upside down...
If anyone has spare pcb they don't need, please sell it to me :thumb:
If anyone has spare pcb they don't need, please sell it to me :thumb:
Senter has some extras: www.shorturl.at/hsJO6
I emailed him earlier this week and still haven’t heard back. Hopefully, I’ll hear something soon.
If anyone has spare pcb they don't need, please sell it to me :thumb:
Senter has some extras: www.shorturl.at/hsJO6
Many people asked me if there will be a round 2 (no) and why not. I guess I need to give a public answer here.[mention]thestateofmay [/mention] see quote
Firstly, Key65 was not a limited GB. The IC was long enough that anyone care about the community would see it. The GB period was long enough that anyone wanted to join can join. It was a long journey to get the 600 kits manufactured and shipped in this special time. I'm deeply grateful for those who patiently waited and who had faith on me. I'm not interested in making their wait a little less meaningful by running a much quicker group buy for the same design.
Secondly, I'm not interested in running the group buys for the same design. I've mentioned it many times. I don't want to run a group buy if there's nothing new.
That being said, I do plan to run a group buy for Time 80% in the near future. The concept is the same but all the details have been improved. It will be a totally different Time. I'll IC it and collect feedbacks soon.
Are there any òther PCBs that work with the key65? I need a spare one..
There are still several spare PCBs.
Now they can only be shipped to CONUS tho.
There are still several spare PCBs.
Now they can only be shipped to CONUS tho.
There are still several spare PCBs.
Now they can only be shipped to CONUS tho.
There are still several spare PCBs.
Now they can only be shipped to CONUS tho.
Does anyone know what the foam between pcb and plate is called? I want to get some for my other boards.Don't know what it is exactly, but it's probably sorbothane.
Does anyone know what the foam between pcb and plate is called? I want to get some for my other boards.
Help! Help! Help! Anyone can share me key65's wkl 7u spacebar plate file ?
There are still several spare PCBs.
Now they can only be shipped to CONUS tho.
Am I just really unlucky or what? I purchased an extra pcb from senter and it malfunctioned upon plugging in. Then he replaced it with a new one and it also malfunctioned.
Am I just really unlucky or what? I purchased an extra pcb from senter and it malfunctioned upon plugging in. Then he replaced it with a new one and it also malfunctioned.
then it might be the cable you're using
Same here got extra pcb no issue everything worked just fine.Am I just really unlucky or what? I purchased an extra pcb from senter and it malfunctioned upon plugging in. Then he replaced it with a new one and it also malfunctioned.
then it might be the cable you're using
Nah, my key65 GB pcb is working just fine. Same cable same laptop. These 2 extra pcbs were busted the moment I plugged them in. Even tried with different cable / port still broken.
Has anyone had any luck filling in their kanji logo with acrylic paint themselves? I purchased mine on the after market and it's blank. Would I just use a small brush to fill it in myself?Here's a written guide.
Update to my extra PCBs situation:
Apparently the extra PCB I ordered from senter recently used a USB-C connector that only works in 1 direction, i.e. if you plug in your cable in the wrong orientation the pcb won't be detected and your pc will throw a malfunction warning.
I'm wondering if any of you guys has also encountered the same issue as I do regarding leftover PCBs.
You might have to keep an eye on r/mechmarket for pcbs. Plates I cut one from ponoko with the file and it works great. It's a good option.
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I got them cut from ponoko with 1.5mm.You might have to keep an eye on r/mechmarket for pcbs. Plates I cut one from ponoko with the file and it works great. It's a good option.
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where did you get them cut? also, what thickness did you ask them to do?
does anyone have a solder pcb & plate combo for sale with the plate dampener?Check /r/mechmarket there's a few that people are selling all the time.
Would love to purchase one, thank you!
does anyone have a solder pcb & plate combo for sale with the plate dampener?Check /r/mechmarket there's a few that people are selling all the time.
Would love to purchase one, thank you!
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My PCB keeps turning off too.
How can i?
I was checked my usb port
My PCB keeps turning off too.
How can i?
I was checked my usb port
did it come with the reset button removed or did you desolder it? I had the same issue until I removed it
anyone want to do a gb on pom plates for the 7u?
anyone want to do a gb on pom plates for the 7u?
I'd join it. but, I'm just looking to make one through ponoko
does anyone know where i can get extra of the bumpons for the plate gasket? I ordered two plates in the group buy but only have enough for my 1st plate. Looking to get 16 more for my second.
does anyone know where i can get extra of the bumpons for the plate gasket? I ordered two plates in the group buy but only have enough for my 1st plate. Looking to get 16 more for my second.
So, tried to infill my key65. Is this supposed to happen? I thought the paint on the case wouldn't wipe off.It is paint what did you use to wipe it? Personally tried using enamel paint kind of failed and used acetone free nail polish remover to wipe it clean. Even then I washed it with mild soap and water to be certain none of the nail polish remover got leftover.
So, tried to infill my key65. Is this supposed to happen? I thought the paint on the case wouldn't wipe off.It is paint what did you use to wipe it? Personally tried using enamel paint kind of failed and used acetone free nail polish remover to wipe it clean. Even then I washed it with mild soap and water to be certain none of the nail polish remover got leftover.
I ordered my keyboard a year ago, and still got no updates. Did I get scammed?This was shipped months ago
Just finished building my Key65 and wanted to share my findings with using split backspace. My PCB also had the issue with the pads on the front and back sides not connecting. I was able to fix this using a mill-max socket on the pad. With the use of the dampening pad, you can't even tell that one side of switch is in a mill-max socket since the dampening pad is so thick.I know it's been a while, but I just wanted to thank you for posting this. I built my Key65 a couple weeks ago and it turns out I also got a bum PCB. I tried the factory suggested method of just jamming a buttload of solder into the socket, but that didn't feel good and in the end - didn't work. I also tried contacting Senter, but he hasn't responded yet.
Hope this helps anyone experiencing the split backspace issue. (Please ignore the poor choice of keycaps. This is temporary until Camping R2 ships...)