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geekhack Marketplace => Group Buys and Preorders => Topic started by: donutcat on Sun, 30 September 2018, 15:27:54
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https://donutcables.com/product/gmk-coniferous-round-2/
Fall approaches and trees begin to drop their leaves, but the mighty conifers will defiantly display their foliage against the change of the seasons, a fitting time for the return of GMK Coniferous! My first keyset design is back after amazing first round performance and near-constant inquiries as to a second round. Bold green on classic beige and black backdrop and crafted by GMK in Cherry profile with their renowned double-shot injection molding process, this keyset lets you display your keyboard's "foliage" all year round for years to come.
(https://i.imgur.com/gngqvPa.png) (https://i.imgur.com/gngqvPa.png)
Base Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/wd2CxID.png) (https://i.imgur.com/wd2CxID.png)
Spacebars Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/3iQ4J68.png) (https://i.imgur.com/3iQ4J68.png)
Novelties Kit - Designs brought to you by Keebmeupscotty
(https://i.imgur.com/A1y4l5B.png) (https://i.imgur.com/A1y4l5B.png)
Bonsair Kit
The prices for *my* site are as follows:
Base - 5/150
- 150 - $150
- 250 - $135
Spacebar - 5/100
- 100 - $31
- 150 - $28
Novelties - 5/100
- 100 - $42
- 150 - $35
Bonsai - 3/100
- 100 - $70
- 150 - $65
(https://i.imgur.com/iFPTA3R.png) (https://i.imgur.com/iFPTA3R.png)
Table of all regional prices
Proxies for this set are:
EU - http://groupbuys.mechboards.co.uk/shop/gmk-coniferous-r2/
China - https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4832
Asia/Oceania - https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-coniferous-r2
Estimated timeline:
Oct 1st-31st - GB period is open
Nov 1st-7th - Order numbers submitted to GMK, possible kit adjustments, payment submitted
Nov 8th - Feb 14th - Current estimated GMK production time, may be shorted depending on order quantities and other factors
Feb 14th-28th - Current estimated time for sets to ship from GMK to me and for sorting
Late Feb - early March - Shipping fulfillment from me to customers
I've changed things up a little bit this time and instead of doing pre-order like the last two buys this is pay when you order. This is to help prevent the delays that the last two buys went through/are going through due to people just refusing to pay invoices they committed to when they submitted the orders. Leave it to some people to ruin something that makes it easier for other people to participate in GBs. Dealing with price drops and other things is going to be a pain, but hey that's what it is.
Let me know if I missed anything important. How many GBs have I posted here and I'm still not sure if I've got everything right the first time.
For your viewing pleasure, an album of R1 sets on various boards in various settings
https://imgur.com/a/D8MJ7
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Approved
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Joined. Glad this got a second round.
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Good to see this back!
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Traded my earlier one. Joined!
Will you issue cc refunds if discount MOQs are hit?
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Traded my earlier one. Joined!
Will you issue cc refunds if discount MOQs are hit?
Yes, since payment is collected when you order I'll have to manage price drop points through partial refunds.
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YES! Been waiting for this set. Will order from ZF when the link is up. Thanks donutcat!
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Couple updates:
ZFrontier links are up and should be working:
https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4832
https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-coniferous-r2
and I've included a table in the op and here with their pricing for easy viewing
(https://i.imgur.com/0Z5gsq8.png) (https://i.imgur.com/0Z5gsq8.png)
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Another bump, David got his page up at http://groupbuys.mechboards.co.uk/shop/gmk-coniferous-r2/ which is now linked in both the op and on my store page.
(https://i.imgur.com/iFPTA3R.png) (https://i.imgur.com/iFPTA3R.png)
Table updated with pricing.
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Another bump, David got his page up at http://groupbuys.mechboards.co.uk/shop/gmk-coniferous-r2/ which is now linked in both the op and on my store page.
(https://i.imgur.com/iFPTA3R.png) (https://i.imgur.com/iFPTA3R.png)
Table updated with pricing.
Why does it cost more to buy from UK, shouldn't shipping be lower from Germany..?
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Within EU you guys end up paying VAT while there's essentially no import fees at all from Germany to the US. The USD is also doing relatively well against both EUR and GBP compared to a few months ago, meaning the USD conversion is even lower.
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Small bump, I've added to the OP an album of R1 sets for those unfamiliar to get a better idea of how the set looks in real life.
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Ordered a set from zf! :)
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Small update bump, got the following numbers so far:
Base - 22
Spacebars - 17
Novelty - 13
Bonsai - 9
Numbers are a little low, but honestly kinda what I expected since the change in payment method does mean people might have to wait until later on in the buy period to order.
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Numbers update:
Base - 26
Spacebars - 21
Novelty - 15
Bonsai - 11
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It's sad to see these numbers. I'm really rooting for this kit! Quick question for you, donut: is there are particular number for base kits to reach where you'd consider buying out the rest so MOQ is reached? I only ask because there's numerous kits out and on the horizon that I have my eye including this one, and because you're no longer waiting until the buy period is over to collect payment, I have to be pragmatic about how I spend the very little free cash I have. I hope you understand :)
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It's sad to see these numbers. I'm really rooting for this kit! Quick question for you, donut: is there are particular number for base kits to reach where you'd consider buying out the rest so MOQ is reached? I only ask because there's numerous kits out and on the horizon that I have my eye including this one, and because you're no longer waiting until the buy period is over to collect payment, I have to be pragmatic about how I spend the very little free cash I have. I hope you understand :)
I'm not completely sure since right now my finances aren't in a good spot for being able to foot a bunch of sets, but I'd say if the base got over 100-110 then between me and the proxies we'd be able to make it happen, though that doesn't give any provisions for the other kits. As it is, I'm currently disappointed in the current turnout on the set considering the interest that there was while it was in IC that seems to have mostly vanished. Based on the feedback I was really expecting more by this point in the GB period, but I'll be letting it run its course to see what happens once we're closer to the end.
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Within EU you guys end up paying VAT while there's essentially no import fees at all from Germany to the US. The USD is also doing relatively well against both EUR and GBP compared to a few months ago, meaning the USD conversion is even lower.
As UK is still part of EU there are no import fees.
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Maybe do reddit etc posts? I know this has been pushed back a few times since like June. Some people might not know that its actually gone live.
I know its not looking great, but crossing my fingers on this one.
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Maybe do reddit etc posts? I know this has been pushed back a few times since like June. Some people might not know that its actually gone live.
I know its not looking great, but crossing my fingers on this one.
Good suggestion but there have been multiple reddit posts for the GB. The hype seemed high for this set so it seems odd that it’s struggling.
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Numbers update bump:
Numbers update:
Base - 31
Spacebars - 26
Novelty - 20
Bonsai - 16
We're at the 1/5 point for base currently, really hoping for that "end of GB period" rush to start up soon.
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Maybe do reddit etc posts? I know this has been pushed back a few times since like June. Some people might not know that its actually gone live.
I know its not looking great, but crossing my fingers on this one.
Good suggestion but there have been multiple reddit posts for the GB. The hype seemed high for this set so it seems odd that it’s struggling.
Honestly, I think it's just the time of year. There are a good number of sets running simultaneously, and people are likely saving their spending money for the Holidays.
I myself had to make the hard decision not to jump in this time, even though I've been waiting eagerly for it since the IC was initially posted. I was ready for it in June / July personally, but by the time this GB launched I had already joined other GBs, and started to cut back on my spending for the holidays. Hopefully, if this set doesn't make it we'll see it again eventually, but I think this time of year is just rough for any GB.
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I am interested in Bonsai kit, is this drop getting canceled? Any chance the drop will go ahead even with low participation?
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I am interested in Bonsai kit, is this drop getting canceled? Any chance the drop will go ahead even with low participation?
Not cancelled yet, going to try keeping it alive as long as I can. As it stands, I would not be able to push the set forward without significantly more participation or someone willing to fund the set since I just can't afford to.
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What's are mechmarket's rules regarding post updates? I have a feeling there's plenty of people that dont know the set is running right now.
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had no idea this set was running and i go to geekhack quite frequently
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I agree, maybe this set needs more exposure. Post on mechmarket with photos of r1 :)
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What's are mechmarket's rules regarding post updates? I have a feeling there's plenty of people that dont know the set is running right now.
48hrs minimum between posts, which I've been sticking close to. R/mk doesn't have an official rule about it, but I stick with the same 48hrs as mechmarket since I've run into complaints of "spamming" in the past.
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Today's number updates:
- Base - 36/150
- Spacebar - 29/100
- Novelties - 22/100
- Bonsai - 19/100
Also, I've received word from GMK that their production timeline could be much shorter than I've predicted here with an estimated only 7-9 weeks total production time after payment submission to them, meaning that if everything goes well and sticks to the timeline, we could see sets before the new year!
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So are we going to make it or extension. I really want the bonsai, space, and novelties to make it
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I just put in my order. Here's hoping it makes it, but the current numbers have me worried.
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Alright, this is our current numbers:
- Base - 40/150
- Spacebar - 31/100
- Novelties - 23/100
- Bonsai - 21/100
And we're riding up on the *planned* end day this week. Obviously there's interest in the set being made, but we just need more participation to get it there since the base is right now only about 1/3 of the way. I can extend it a little bit, but I'd really prefer to not drag it on too much at the expense of those already joined.
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What will be the bare minimum actual # ordered for each set so that it will get made? I doubt moq will hit for any at this rate.
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What will be the bare minimum actual # ordered for each set so that it will get made? I doubt moq will hit for any at this rate.
Base set above 110. Not sure about other kits
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I can extend it a little bit, but I'd really prefer to not drag it on too much at the expense of those already joined.
I don't know about anyone else, but I personally don't mind waiting if that's what we need to get it made. That's better than getting nothing at all to me.
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Bonsai kit and the novelties are the real winners of this R2. Such a shame if they don't make it.
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Bonsai kit and the novelties are the real winners of this R2. Such a shame if they don't make it.
Yes, I wanted to join this drop for Bonsai kit only but it appears that it will not happen, so sad.
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Any update on the GB numbers? I joined for a base kit but it's looking like this might not hit moq :(
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Any update on the GB numbers? I joined for a base kit but it's looking like this might not hit moq :(
He posted another update on Reddit.
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Current numbers:
- Base - 48
- Spacebars - 39
- Novelty - 24
- Bonsai - 23
The current plan is an extension until next Wednesday and then see what we're dealing with then. Given the current numbers it'd still take a miracle to get us even close to MOQ, but I'm willing to wait a bit longer to see if anything happens.
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Current numbers:
- Base - 48
- Spacebars - 39
- Novelty - 24
- Bonsai - 23
The current plan is an extension until next Wednesday and then see what we're dealing with then. Given the current numbers it'd still take a miracle to get us even close to MOQ, but I'm willing to wait a bit longer to see if anything happens.
Hi,what is current number?
Hope to get this. ;D
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any update?
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The following numbers are what we ended up with after the extension
Base - 54
Spacebars - 44
Novelty - 27
Bonsai - 28
Right now I just don't see a benefit to dragging this on with the pace that we've gained orders. I'll start refunds later this week and unlock the IC thread to go back to gathering interest while waiting for a better time to run this.
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The following numbers are what we ended up with after the extension
Base - 54
Spacebars - 44
Novelty - 27
Bonsai - 28
Right now I just don't see a benefit to dragging this on with the pace that we've gained orders. I'll start refunds later this week and unlock the IC thread to go back to gathering interest while waiting for a better time to run this.
Hope next GB the base kit would include the green spaces.
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The following numbers are what we ended up with after the extension
Base - 54
Spacebars - 44
Novelty - 27
Bonsai - 28
Right now I just don't see a benefit to dragging this on with the pace that we've gained orders. I'll start refunds later this week and unlock the IC thread to go back to gathering interest while waiting for a better time to run this.
Damn, based on the numbers I had a feeling this was going to happen but man I've been waiting to grab this set since I missed the first round. :( Whelp, count me in the next time this runs.
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Well ****.
I'm definitely good for another bonsai and novelties purchase next try.
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That's a real bummer. I'm definitely in for the next run though!
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omegalul
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omegalul
Go be a ****ty memer somewhere else pls/thx.