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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Defect on Wed, 29 April 2015, 06:04:52
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Hey Geekhack!
Another 60% build. We've seen tons of these but this time I've got SKCM Blue ALPS in an Aluminum case.
Parts:
(http://i.imgur.com/LZy0mcNh.jpg)
Using a Duck 1.5 PCB (not DUCKY), Duck Plate, SKCM Blue ALPS, caps from multiple ALPS boards, and an aluminium case off MD.
Switches:
(http://i.imgur.com/ghxJFlUh.jpg)
SKCM Blue ALPS are considered superior to SKCM White ALPS. As an owner of both, I will say that SKCM Blue ALPS definitely feel better (smoother and less hollow), but they are probably not worth the massive premium.
How Much of a Premium?
(http://i.imgur.com/ODcLEqth.jpg)
My Focus FK 2001 with White ALPS cost around $20 shipped (it's heavy)
My Siig Suntouch Jr. cost about $45 shipped and it has mostly unused high quality "pine" SKCM White ALPS.
SKCM Blue Alps cost about $1.30 per loose switch, or $110+ for a donor board.
Caps
(http://i.imgur.com/K3MOffOh.jpg)
My biggest issue with ALPS is that there is no support for them.
Despite having a superior clicky switch (btw MATIAS makes great clones), they just never caught on. So it's near impossible to find cap sets. And forget about thick doubleshots or wonky colors. Your ALPS come in beige or white (black for MATIAS)
Cap Donors:
(http://i.imgur.com/qr0ZsUfh.jpg)
Most caps are from the Focus FK2001, but it has an ISO enter, short right shift, non-stepped capslock, and no \| key.
For those keys, I had to go out and buy a Dell AT101-W...just for caps (until I make resin modifiers)
What's Left?
(http://i.imgur.com/D7uj494h.jpg)
A few things left to really make this board "endgame"
I am in the process of molding my own custom resin Keycaps for ALPS. Using "Greenstuff" sculpting resin and clay, I am making thick ALPS caps similar to a Click Clack Blank. The first batch came out great, but only includes the QWERTY row.
Thanks for Stopping By!
(http://i.imgur.com/59TcpoNh.jpg)
Turning it over to you guys if you have any suggestions/recommendations or if you have any questions.
-Defect
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Nice job. Keep us updated with your creation of a full cap set from scratch. Very ambitious!
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This is an awesome board. Not a 60% guy bust still, great job.
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Oooo oooo, I want custom Alps swag! I'm excited to see your progress on that.
Also...HOW DARE YOU SPEAK BAD OF BLUE ALPS. But seriously, if I couldn't find Blue Alps again, I'd be very happy with Matias Clicky. I think Matias clicky and Blue Alps are closer than White Alps.
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Oooo oooo, I want custom Alps swag! I'm excited to see your progress on that.
Also...HOW DARE YOU SPEAK BAD OF BLUE ALPS. But seriously, if I couldn't find Blue Alps again, I'd be very happy with Matias Clicky. I think Matias clicky and Blue Alps are closer than White Alps.
I wasn't speaking poorly of them... But they are quite expensive for what they are. Like with most hobbies, the good stuff comes at a premium.
Nice job. Keep us updated with your creation of a full cap set from scratch. Very ambitious!
They look nice, but I'm having a hard time figuring out colors that don't look gaudy or make my board like a 5 year old's toy. Less is more for customizing I guess.
This is an awesome board. Not a 60% guy bust still, great job.
I prefer TKL for work as well, but at least this is programmable so its use able. Wish someone would let me piggy back on the Orion V2.
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I think Matias clicky and Blue Alps are closer than White Alps.
This is really interesting, as I would like to try blue alps but don't like the idea of buying some old board that has been sitting in an attic for 30 years. How similar are they in terms of smoothness and weight?
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I think Matias clicky and Blue Alps are closer than White Alps.
This is really interesting, as I would like to try blue alps but don't like the idea of buying some old board that has been sitting in an attic for 30 years. How similar are they in terms of smoothness and weight?
You might check out a thread I made recently comparing blue alps vs. white alps vs. Matias tactile pro:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71350.0
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I think Matias clicky and Blue Alps are closer than White Alps.
This is really interesting, as I would like to try blue alps but don't like the idea of buying some old board that has been sitting in an attic for 30 years. How similar are they in terms of smoothness and weight?
You might check out a thread I made recently comparing blue alps vs. white alps vs. Matias tactile pro:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71350.0
I already saw it, but it was a very interesting thread :)
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For SKCM Blue vs SKCM White vs Matias my opinion is that:
Blues are smoother and more "dense" feeling, white alps are a compromise, and Matias is hollow, plastic, and crisp tactile. This is just my feeling, have not done any measurable tests.
Caps have a huge impact on feel as well. Only made a few custom thick resin caps but those are my favorite so far.
I want to splice a clack as well but feel like I'd get too much hate from GH.
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Using a Duck 1.5 PCB (not DUCKY)
Where does one find a "Duck" keyboard? Google isn't returning anything obvious. Also did you pull the PCB out of a whole keyboard or buy it separately?
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For SKCM Blue vs SKCM White vs Matias my opinion is that:
Blues are smoother and more "dense" feeling, white alps are a compromise, and Matias is hollow, plastic, and crisp tactile. This is just my feeling, have not done any measurable tests.
That's exactly how I'd describe them as well.
Wouldn't say Matiases are closer in feeling to Blues than Whites are, btw.
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Using a Duck 1.5 PCB (not DUCKY)
Where does one find a "Duck" keyboard? Google isn't returning anything obvious. Also did you pull the PCB out of a whole keyboard or buy it separately?
Bought the PCB from a Duck Mini v2 group buy. Duck also makes the Viper and Eagle. I think Orion TKL is also by Duck but am not 100% certain on that.
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Where does one find a "Duck" keyboard? Google isn't returning anything obvious. Also did you pull the PCB out of a whole keyboard or buy it separately?
They're Korean customs. Your only options are a Korean keyboard forum, the group buys that are run here, and the classified threads/private sales.
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You're living my dream! I have blues in two boards, but none are 60%. 60% ANSI with blues is my absolute dream.
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Where did you get the plate? Is it steel or aluminum?