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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #200 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:32:33 »
MRW people can't read the first page

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #201 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:34:16 »
Let's see for dem 11 degrees... Pretty excited how they will feel IRL

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #202 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:34:30 »
@Elton

Hi, i've send you a message about mistake on my username, i forgot that i've changed my username couple weeks ago and filled out the form with my old username, could you please fix that for me

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #203 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:35:06 »
Can't believe I made it.  My fingers were shaking and sweating as I am typing.  #11 woot!

I wonder if it makes a difference that I zoom in on the browser window so I didn't have to scroll to fill out the form.

My first Duck board.    ;D

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #204 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:36:40 »
I put in an extra PCB + Plate by accident. Do we have an opportunity to remove this?

Don't remove it from your order.  There are definitely others in this thread that would be interested in just the plate and PCB alone without having to buy the board.

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #205 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:37:00 »
Well, 00:37 now here - time for sleep :)

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #206 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:40:32 »
Well, 00:37 now here - time for sleep :)

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #207 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:40:55 »
Now that I've made a decision (alu) can anyone explain to me the difference in plate materials?

Previous versions of LightSavers are tray mount, where the PCB is screwed into the base so they were essentially a PCB mounted keyboard with the plate aligning everything. The difference in materials is mostly be for looks and sound. You could even go plateless with PCB mount switches.

The LSV3 is top mount.

The plate is be mounted to the case, leaving the PCB suspended by the switches. This is where materials matter. Acrylic that is a uniform 1.5mm thickness is unsuitable, polycarb and aluminum are more forgiving, while steel is going to be stiffer and have more ping. Most people agree that steel would be best for linear switches but may be too harsh for switches with sharper tactility like MX clears, MOD and Zealios. Its preference.

EDIT: Sorry for the initial inaccuracy
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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #208 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:48:50 »
Now that I've made a decision (alu) can anyone explain to me the difference in plate materials?

The LightSaver's PCB is screwed into the base so this is essentially a PCB mounted keyboard with the plate aligning everything. The difference in materials will mostly be for looks and sound. You could even go plateless with PCB mount switches.

In other keyboards the plate may be mounted to the case, leaving the PCB suspended by the switches. This is where materials matter. Acrylic or polycarb that is a uniform 1.5mm thickness is unsuitable, aluminum is more forgiving and steel is going to be stiffer and have more ping. Most people agree that steel would be best for linear switches but may be too harsh for switches with sharper tactility like MX clears, MOD and Zealios. Its preference.

Any color options on the aluminum plate?

Not really sure what you're trying to say here when you say the PCB is screwed into the base vs the plate mounted to the case. Common mounting references are tray mount (Pok3r style), top mount (like many customs), and bottom mount (TX87). The Lightsaver looks to be top mount, like many boards produced in Korea and by duck.

Just trying to clarify some terminology.

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #209 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:51:40 »
Typing experience comparison for SS plate vs aluminium (tray mount)?

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #210 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:54:40 »
Got an extra pcb + SS plate. Please pm me if you want it, I will be selling it for same price + shipping.

Edit: sold
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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #211 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:57:59 »
Thanks a lot elton! Looking forward to build this beauty :)

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #212 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 17:58:55 »
F yeah! I made it.  First real custom.

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #213 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 18:20:24 »
Now that I've made a decision (alu) can anyone explain to me the difference in plate materials?
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The LightSaver's PCB is screwed into the base so this is essentially a PCB mounted keyboard with the plate aligning everything. The difference in materials will mostly be for looks and sound. You could even go plateless with PCB mount switches.

In other keyboards the plate may be mounted to the case, leaving the PCB suspended by the switches. This is where materials matter. Acrylic or polycarb that is a uniform 1.5mm thickness is unsuitable, aluminum is more forgiving and steel is going to be stiffer and have more ping. Most people agree that steel would be best for linear switches but may be too harsh for switches with sharper tactility like MX clears, MOD and Zealios. Its preference.

Any color options on the aluminum plate?

Not really sure what you're trying to say here when you say the PCB is screwed into the base vs the plate mounted to the case. Common mounting references are tray mount (Pok3r style), top mount (like many customs), and bottom mount (TX87). The Lightsaver looks to be top mount, like many boards produced in Korea and by duck.

Just trying to clarify some terminology.
Yeah IDK, Edited.

I got in on this GB but am now realizing I don't now the full details of this iteration. There isn't an exploded view of the construction like in the Viper/Eagle thread, just assumed it was the same idea as the previous versions. If its not tray mounted, I wonder how the plastic plate will work. Maybe milled polycarb, hopefully Elton can clarify for us?
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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #214 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 18:34:43 »
Had a client walk in 10 min b4 it opened, #133 . Rip.  :'(
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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #215 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 18:39:49 »
#101 I think I'm gonna be sick

Offline laughatpain

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #216 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 18:44:32 »
Now that I've made a decision (alu) can anyone explain to me the difference in plate materials?
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The LightSaver's PCB is screwed into the base so this is essentially a PCB mounted keyboard with the plate aligning everything. The difference in materials will mostly be for looks and sound. You could even go plateless with PCB mount switches.

In other keyboards the plate may be mounted to the case, leaving the PCB suspended by the switches. This is where materials matter. Acrylic or polycarb that is a uniform 1.5mm thickness is unsuitable, aluminum is more forgiving and steel is going to be stiffer and have more ping. Most people agree that steel would be best for linear switches but may be too harsh for switches with sharper tactility like MX clears, MOD and Zealios. Its preference.

Any color options on the aluminum plate?

Not really sure what you're trying to say here when you say the PCB is screwed into the base vs the plate mounted to the case. Common mounting references are tray mount (Pok3r style), top mount (like many customs), and bottom mount (TX87). The Lightsaver looks to be top mount, like many boards produced in Korea and by duck.

Just trying to clarify some terminology.
Yeah IDK, Edited.

I got in on this GB but am now realizing I don't now the full details of this iteration. There isn't an exploded view of the construction like in the Viper/Eagle thread, just assumed it was the same idea as the previous versions. If its not tray mounted, I wonder how the plastic plate will work. Maybe milled polycarb, hopefully Elton can clarify for us?

If you look at the pictures elton posted from duck's website, you can see where the plate would mount, specifically the 8 slots for the plate to screw into the top of the case. Plastic will work the same way, its either poly carb or acrylic, but I've seen plates made from both.

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #217 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 18:47:35 »
Damn i missed!!!!
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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #218 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 18:47:53 »
Apparently I entered that I'm from the great country of USC :)) I'll need to update this lol

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #219 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 19:03:30 »
One of three V3 Lightsavers in Australia. How's that exclusivity haha.

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #220 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 19:51:13 »
Congratulations to all lucky people that got one. I slept in :( I was also late for work. Not only that but it's my birthday. How unlucky I am! Maybe next year :)

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #221 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 20:27:52 »
150 sets. Please :(

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #222 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 20:35:16 »
Damn, that was fast, right at 18:15 ET. At least I tried!

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #223 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 21:31:33 »
Just got a response in the case anyone else was wondering.

The construction will be exactly like Viper/Eagle V2.

No anodized alum. plate (colors) available.

It (plastic plate) will be clear polycarbonate.

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #224 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 21:58:34 »
Anyone  happen to know if Holtite sockets fit on the pcb?

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #225 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 22:27:08 »
first 100 orders in 91 seconds. HOT DAMN.

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #226 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 22:50:41 »
Anyone  happen to know if Holtite sockets fit on the pcb?
I've asked Elton be he said he's not sure, you could email Duck and ask them, post the answer on here once you got it. I would like to know too



Does anyone knows what will come after LV v3? Duck Orion or Octagon or Black Bird?
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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #227 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 23:18:57 »
Elton,

Is your email duckustomkeyboards or duckcustomkeyboards?  Your OP doesn't have a "c" for custom.  Just making sure.

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #228 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 23:27:54 »
Elton,

Is your email duckustomkeyboards or duckcustomkeyboards?  Your OP doesn't have a "c" for custom.  Just making sure.

Elton is just the organizer and from Canada. Duck is the designer and maker of the keyboard and he's from Korea. Two separate people. :)


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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #229 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 23:28:19 »
Elton,

Is your email duckustomkeyboards or duckcustomkeyboards?  Your OP doesn't have a "c" for custom.  Just making sure.

duckustomkeyboards

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #230 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 23:30:58 »
Anyone  happen to know if Holtite sockets fit on the pcb?

Here's a running spreadsheet with tested pcbs. I wouldnt think duck would design the pcb holes to have different size between different boards so, you can just go off of the Blackbird test.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1qt70E2mcuaHBXYrpPHXlpl7FNaXLo0u_TOe67cVdY/pubhtml?gid=986897710&single=true

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« Reply #231 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 23:50:10 »
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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #232 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 00:56:01 »
Anyone  happen to know if Holtite sockets fit on the pcb?
I've asked Elton be he said he's not sure, you could email Duck and ask them, post the answer on here once you got it. I would like to know too



Does anyone knows what will come after LV v3? Duck Orion or Octagon or Black Bird?

Yeah I'll see if I can get some more info. I've done some googling and black bird v1 fits holtite sockset but octagon v2 doesn't.

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #233 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 01:26:23 »
Anyone  happen to know if Holtite sockets fit on the pcb?
I've asked Elton be he said he's not sure, you could email Duck and ask them, post the answer on here once you got it. I would like to know too

Does anyone knows what will come after LV v3? Duck Orion or Octagon or Black Bird?

Yeah I'll see if I can get some more info. I've done some googling and black bird v1 fits holtite sockset but octagon v2 doesn't.

I just checked out the spreadsheet and it says the holtites don't fit on the Octagon V2 pcb, but it says measured not verified. The link has a picture of someone with a $120 set of calipers that is using them completely wrong. To measure gaps, they should be using the other end. Dumbest thing I have seen all day→
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Using digital calipers, I measured the switch holes of my VE.A PCB where holtites sit perfect and they are 1.44-1.46 mm in diameter. The switch hole diameter of my extra ZZ96 PCB is right at 1.60mm and they fall through. Switching to the LightSaver for this very reason, having them on the VE.A really spoiled me.

Holtites work on the Octagon V2
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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #234 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 02:42:51 »
Wow the hype is real.Congrats all the winners  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #235 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 04:30:49 »
Anyone  happen to know if Holtite sockets fit on the pcb?
I've asked Elton be he said he's not sure, you could email Duck and ask them, post the answer on here once you got it. I would like to know too

Does anyone knows what will come after LV v3? Duck Orion or Octagon or Black Bird?

Yeah I'll see if I can get some more info. I've done some googling and black bird v1 fits holtite sockset but octagon v2 doesn't.

I just checked out the spreadsheet and it says the holtites don't fit on the Octagon V2 pcb, but it says measured not verified. The link has a picture of someone with a $120 set of calipers that is using them completely wrong. To measure gaps, they should be using the other end. Dumbest thing I have seen all day→
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Using digital calipers, I measured the switch holes of my VE.A PCB where holtites sit perfect and they are 1.44-1.46 mm in diameter. The switch hole diameter of my extra ZZ96 PCB is right at 1.60mm and they fall through. Switching to the LightSaver for this very reason, having them on the VE.A really spoiled me.

Holtites work on the Octagon V2

Also work on the BlackBird, switches sit perfect, LEDs are tight but still work fine

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #236 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 05:15:50 »
Anyone  happen to know if Holtite sockets fit on the pcb?
I've asked Elton be he said he's not sure, you could email Duck and ask them, post the answer on here once you got it. I would like to know too

Does anyone knows what will come after LV v3? Duck Orion or Octagon or Black Bird?

Yeah I'll see if I can get some more info. I've done some googling and black bird v1 fits holtite sockset but octagon v2 doesn't.

I just checked out the spreadsheet and it says the holtites don't fit on the Octagon V2 pcb, but it says measured not verified. The link has a picture of someone with a $120 set of calipers that is using them completely wrong. To measure gaps, they should be using the other end. Dumbest thing I have seen all day→
More
Show Image


Using digital calipers, I measured the switch holes of my VE.A PCB where holtites sit perfect and they are 1.44-1.46 mm in diameter. The switch hole diameter of my extra ZZ96 PCB is right at 1.60mm and they fall through. Switching to the LightSaver for this very reason, having them on the VE.A really spoiled me.

Holtites work on the Octagon V2

Also work on the BlackBird, switches sit perfect, LEDs are tight but still work fine

They also work fine on the Eagle/Viper PCB.

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #237 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 05:47:18 »
Sheet has been updated, minus Elton's order (So the GB was basically 99 units) the last successful one was at 5/15/2017 18:01:35

Sheesh, 95 seconds, what the hell :eek:

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #238 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 05:50:43 »
Sheesh, 95 seconds, what the hell :eek:

Hype was real


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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #239 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 07:05:46 »
The link has a picture of someone with a $120 set of calipers that is using them completely wrong. To measure gaps, they should be using the other end. Dumbest thing I have seen all day→
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I'll agree that he is using them wrong, but it is obvious from the photo that his calipers are too large to be used properly to measure holes of this size. Chances are he was trying to do the best he could to help someone else out who asked the question so maybe ease up on who you're calling dumb.


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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #240 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 08:45:01 »
I was moving all weekend and wasn't checking online.  Lightsaver GB happens.  FML.   :))

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #241 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 08:49:56 »
Hnggg not sure if I want to stay with silver or go with black. Anyone have any pictures to convince me in one way or the other?

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #242 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 10:21:21 »
Thanks everyone who gave info about holtites!

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #243 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 10:31:37 »
These stabilizers should work for this board right? http://winkeyless.kr/product/cherry-pcb-mount-stabilizers/
A full set is sufficient?

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #244 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 10:46:45 »
Yes and yes

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« Reply #245 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 11:10:53 »
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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #246 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 11:29:53 »
SS vs Aluminum plate? Which one is better guys

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #247 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 11:31:50 »
From what I've read, SS > linear, and aluminum > non-linear. I've been going with Zealios for my past couple of builds, but will probably go with both plates just in case.

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #248 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 11:56:38 »
Hnggg not sure if I want to stay with silver or go with black. Anyone have any pictures to convince me in one way or the other?

Search for previous Lightsaver builds on google, that's what I did last night before deciding on all black. Probably helps if you've got some keycaps in mind to pair with it.

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Re: [GB] Lightsaver V3 Kustom Keyboard
« Reply #249 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 12:53:27 »
I'm pretty sure there were more photos added to the Duck links provided earlier in the thread, however they are of the black variant.

http://duck0113.tistory.com/150

Normally I'm not really into lighted boards but I think Laser GMK is perfectly suited for the black Lightsaver v3, so that what I made my decision around.
« Last Edit: Tue, 16 May 2017, 12:58:04 by Perfex »