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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #550 on: Sat, 28 May 2016, 06:37:09 »
matt3o, what's the exact height of only the case (base to plate top)?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #551 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 04:29:45 »
matt3o, what's the exact height of only the case (base to plate top)?

12mm

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #552 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 05:12:28 »
Thanks!

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #553 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 04:31:27 »
Lol god damn, I bought a bunch of gear to stream the build. And then I remembered I bought it assembled...
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #554 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 05:10:04 »
A WhiteFox with rgb underglow would be pretty cool!

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #555 on: Fri, 10 June 2016, 17:29:09 »
My PurpleFox  :thumb:Thanks again Matt30 for this awesome board!


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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #556 on: Sat, 11 June 2016, 01:35:06 »
In less than ideal lighting conditions:



Still have to order and install 1.8mm LEDs.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #557 on: Sat, 11 June 2016, 02:22:52 »
Everything is assembled, LEDs are all working fine but my WhiteFox is stuttering: "thhe quiicck brown fox jumpss over the lazy dog"

Any ideas whaht I did wrong and hhow to fiix it?  :confused:
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #558 on: Sat, 11 June 2016, 10:18:59 »
Everything is assembled, LEDs are all working fine but my WhiteFox is stuttering: "thhe quiicck brown fox jumpss over the lazy dog"

Any ideas whaht I did wrong and hhow to fiix it?  :confused:

what switch did u use?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #559 on: Sat, 11 June 2016, 10:56:01 »
Everything is assembled, LEDs are all working fine but my WhiteFox is stuttering: "thhe quiicck brown fox jumpss over the lazy dog"

Any ideas whaht I did wrong and hhow to fiix it?  :confused:

I had this issue on the 'j' when I built mine, but it went away when I reflowed the solder joints and added a bit more solder.
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #560 on: Sun, 12 June 2016, 13:45:55 »
I have recieved my bare bones kit yesterday, and yes it was awesome, the packaging, and the board itself is at a very high quality level. And Matt3o pls dont forger your promise of sharing the plate dimension for custom layout :p

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #561 on: Sun, 12 June 2016, 15:20:25 »
Everything is assembled, LEDs are all working fine but my WhiteFox is stuttering: "thhe quiicck brown fox jumpss over the lazy dog"

Any ideas whaht I did wrong and hhow to fiix it?  :confused:

what switch did u use?

Purple Zealio Switches (Tactile) - 62g (round 1 GB I think? 08/26/2015)

I had this issue on the 'j' when I built mine, but it went away when I reflowed the solder joints and added a bit more solder.

WhiteFox was my first real attempt at soldering so I'll have to go over the joints and see if they look problematic.
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #562 on: Sun, 12 June 2016, 17:14:16 »
In less than ideal lighting conditions:

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Still have to order and install 1.8mm LEDs.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #563 on: Sun, 12 June 2016, 23:38:27 »
Everything is assembled, LEDs are all working fine but my WhiteFox is stuttering: "thhe quiicck brown fox jumpss over the lazy dog"

Any ideas whaht I did wrong and hhow to fiix it?  :confused:

what switch did u use?

Purple Zealio Switches (Tactile) - 62g (round 1 GB I think? 08/26/2015)

I had this issue on the 'j' when I built mine, but it went away when I reflowed the solder joints and added a bit more solder.

WhiteFox was my first real attempt at soldering so I'll have to go over the joints and see if they look problematic.

This was my situation: Soldering my first keyboard with R1 Zealios 65g. The 'f' and ';' keys were stuttering quite frequently. After a few seconds of heat and a dab more of solder, and the stuttering went away.

Loving the board so far, I was able to flash the keyboard with an Input.Club configuration. Wondering if anyone has an OSX key layout you wouldn't mind sharing :)

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #564 on: Mon, 13 June 2016, 04:13:32 »
My PurpleFox  :thumb:Thanks again Matt30 for this awesome board!

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #565 on: Sun, 19 June 2016, 15:31:39 »




Thank you Matteo. The quality is excellent.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #566 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 11:49:39 »
I received my Whitefox a while back but I just finished building it.
Thanks Matt3o. The Packaging was excellent, quality of the keyboard is top notch and overall great design.





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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #567 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 12:02:31 »






Love this board. Almost wishing now that I'd got two.

Built it with stock clears. All keys are as labelled, except for esc (which is `~ with esc on the function layer) and 'menu' which is actually my function key.
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #568 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 12:24:28 »
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Love this board. Almost wishing now that I'd got two.

Built it with stock clears. All keys are as labelled, except for esc (which is `~ with esc on the function layer) and 'menu' which is actually my function key.

I received my Whitefox a while back but I just finished building it.
Thanks Matt3o. The Packaging was excellent, quality of the keyboard is top notch and overall great design.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #569 on: Thu, 14 July 2016, 02:21:12 »
I received my Whitefox a while back but I just finished building it.
Thanks Matt3o. The Packaging was excellent, quality of the keyboard is top notch and overall great design.

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Love this board. Almost wishing now that I'd got two.

Built it with stock clears. All keys are as labelled, except for esc (which is `~ with esc on the function layer) and 'menu' which is actually my function key.

Fantastic builds! Both of you!

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #570 on: Thu, 14 July 2016, 03:19:48 »
Hi matt3o, it seems that some people who ordered early in Batch #1 are receiving boards without engraving. Could you please comment on this?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #571 on: Thu, 14 July 2016, 04:19:02 »
Hi matt3o, it seems that some people who ordered early in Batch #1 are receiving boards without engraving. Could you please comment on this?

unfortunately I can't. meaning that I don't know what happened.

Initially I told MD that I wanted to give early birds a reward, so "whitefox prima" was born. The first 1000 orders should have received it. Then I was told that probably everybody would have gotten a PRIMA. But that clearly didn't happen.

So, my educated guess is that the manufacturer put the PRIMA engraving in the order they produced the keyboards (which is not the same as users' order number). MassDrop couldn't fix that because of the many options the whitefox came with. It is very unfortunate but I believe it comes from a miscommunication between MD and the manufacturer.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #572 on: Thu, 14 July 2016, 05:04:44 »
...my educated guess is that the manufacturer put the PRIMA engraving in the order they produced the keyboards (which is not the same as users' order number). MassDrop couldn't fix that because of the many options the whitefox came with. It is very unfortunate but I believe it comes from a miscommunication between MD and the manufacturer.

Alright, thanks for your insight. Still have no idea where my order is, though  :(

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #573 on: Thu, 14 July 2016, 11:08:29 »
My Whitefox is taking a literal long journey, at least time wise. It took 5 days to get from the US to Brussels and it's been laying there for over 10 days now... I've never had to exercise this much patience waiting for a package from Massdrop...
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #574 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 10:50:43 »
I'm having an issue where my whitefox operates as if i'm always pressing down the control key, even after I desoldered and removed those switches. Can someone help me troubleshoot this?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #575 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 10:54:07 »
I'm having an issue where my whitefox operates as if i'm always pressing down the control key, even after I desoldered and removed those switches. Can someone help me troubleshoot this?

Did you use the firmware configurator, or are you using the firmware that came on the board originally?
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #576 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 10:59:34 »
I'm having an issue where my whitefox operates as if i'm always pressing down the control key, even after I desoldered and removed those switches. Can someone help me troubleshoot this?

Did you use the firmware configurator, or are you using the firmware that came on the board originally?
Yes, sorry, should have said. Flashed several times, doesn't change.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #577 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 11:01:20 »
I'm having an issue where my whitefox operates as if i'm always pressing down the control key, even after I desoldered and removed those switches. Can someone help me troubleshoot this?

Did you use the firmware configurator, or are you using the firmware that came on the board originally?
Yes, sorry, should have said. Flashed several times, doesn't change.

Can you post the zip file you downloaded with firmware? I remember having some trouble with mine with keys not matching what the configurator said, and I wonder if this is a related problem.
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #578 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 11:05:40 »
I'm having an issue where my whitefox operates as if i'm always pressing down the control key, even after I desoldered and removed those switches. Can someone help me troubleshoot this?

Did you use the firmware configurator, or are you using the firmware that came on the board originally?
Yes, sorry, should have said. Flashed several times, doesn't change.

Can you post the zip file you downloaded with firmware? I remember having some trouble with mine with keys not matching what the configurator said, and I wonder if this is a related problem.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4AfTVpoQat5clBUUTJVV0stSkU

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #579 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 11:09:44 »
I'm having an issue where my whitefox operates as if i'm always pressing down the control key, even after I desoldered and removed those switches. Can someone help me troubleshoot this?

Did you use the firmware configurator, or are you using the firmware that came on the board originally?
Yes, sorry, should have said. Flashed several times, doesn't change.

Can you post the zip file you downloaded with firmware? I remember having some trouble with mine with keys not matching what the configurator said, and I wonder if this is a related problem.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4AfTVpoQat5clBUUTJVV0stSkU

Do you know if both ctrl keys are being held down or if it's only one or the other?
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #580 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 11:14:59 »
I'm having an issue where my whitefox operates as if i'm always pressing down the control key, even after I desoldered and removed those switches. Can someone help me troubleshoot this?

Did you use the firmware configurator, or are you using the firmware that came on the board originally?
Yes, sorry, should have said. Flashed several times, doesn't change.

Can you post the zip file you downloaded with firmware? I remember having some trouble with mine with keys not matching what the configurator said, and I wonder if this is a related problem.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4AfTVpoQat5clBUUTJVV0stSkU

Do you know if both ctrl keys are being held down or if it's only one or the other?
No, shouldn't be either. I desoldered and removed the switches entirely thinking that would answer the question you're asking.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #581 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 11:17:55 »
No, shouldn't be either. I desoldered and removed the switches entirely thinking that would answer the question you're asking.

That's not quite what I meant -- does it appear to the computer that both keys are held down, or is it a particular keycode that's being sent. Try something like aquakeytest if you're on Windows, or xev if you're on mac/linux.
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #582 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 11:21:54 »
No, shouldn't be either. I desoldered and removed the switches entirely thinking that would answer the question you're asking.

That's not quite what I meant -- does it appear to the computer that both keys are held down, or is it a particular keycode that's being sent. Try something like aquakeytest if you're on Windows, or xev if you're on mac/linux.
Ah, right ctrl. Similar program I was using wasn't seeing either register.
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #583 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 11:30:45 »
No, shouldn't be either. I desoldered and removed the switches entirely thinking that would answer the question you're asking.

That's not quite what I meant -- does it appear to the computer that both keys are held down, or is it a particular keycode that's being sent. Try something like aquakeytest if you're on Windows, or xev if you're on mac/linux.
Ah, right ctrl. Similar program I was using wasn't seeing either register.

What happens if you reflash so that the key that currently is assigned as right ctrl is now assigned as something else? Is the new key held down, or is it still sending right ctrl all the time?
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #584 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 11:40:04 »
No, shouldn't be either. I desoldered and removed the switches entirely thinking that would answer the question you're asking.

That's not quite what I meant -- does it appear to the computer that both keys are held down, or is it a particular keycode that's being sent. Try something like aquakeytest if you're on Windows, or xev if you're on mac/linux.
Ah, right ctrl. Similar program I was using wasn't seeing either register.

What happens if you reflash so that the key that currently is assigned as right ctrl is now assigned as something else? Is the new key held down, or is it still sending right ctrl all the time?
Still sending right control.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #585 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 11:46:15 »
No, shouldn't be either. I desoldered and removed the switches entirely thinking that would answer the question you're asking.

That's not quite what I meant -- does it appear to the computer that both keys are held down, or is it a particular keycode that's being sent. Try something like aquakeytest if you're on Windows, or xev if you're on mac/linux.
Ah, right ctrl. Similar program I was using wasn't seeing either register.

What happens if you reflash so that the key that currently is assigned as right ctrl is now assigned as something else? Is the new key held down, or is it still sending right ctrl all the time?
Still sending right control.

So there's no right control assigned anywhere in the keymap, but it's still sending that key all the time? All I can think of is that there's some bug in the source code or some physical issue with your keyboard. Has it always had this issue?
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #586 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 13:56:44 »
we need to see your solder job!

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #587 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 14:10:19 »
On the I:C forums we've also heard of issues with Win10 drivers. What operating system are you running? And, do you have another machine you can test on?

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #588 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 14:28:12 »
No, shouldn't be either. I desoldered and removed the switches entirely thinking that would answer the question you're asking.

That's not quite what I meant -- does it appear to the computer that both keys are held down, or is it a particular keycode that's being sent. Try something like aquakeytest if you're on Windows, or xev if you're on mac/linux.
Ah, right ctrl. Similar program I was using wasn't seeing either register.

What happens if you reflash so that the key that currently is assigned as right ctrl is now assigned as something else? Is the new key held down, or is it still sending right ctrl all the time?
Still sending right control.

So there's no right control assigned anywhere in the keymap, but it's still sending that key all the time? All I can think of is that there's some bug in the source code or some physical issue with your keyboard. Has it always had this issue?
we need to see your solder job!

This is going to be embarrassing but ok. http://imgur.com/a/DOnn7 Not my first time but it's been a while.

After restarting and reinstalling the firmware I got right control to stop registering but now can't get another switch to register at all. Also can't get spacebar to register. Worried I overheated some of the gen 1 or something. So frustrating, spent 3+ hours a day this week trying to finish this and get it working and feels like I keep digging a deeper hole.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #589 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 17:06:25 »
This is going to be embarrassing but ok. http://imgur.com/a/DOnn7 Not my first time but it's been a while.

Yeah that's fairly bad soldering :( Soldering advice aside (hop on irc if you want that), I think you have a solder bridge on the spacebar switch. The right pin seems to have a bit of solder going up to an empty pad in the adjacent position. In that position, the empty pad is the other pin of the same switch, so effectively that would short the switch and could confuse the controller. Use clean and shiny solder tip with a bit of flux to get the excess solder off and clear the bridge.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #590 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 17:19:34 »
I have a quick question. Is the capslock button supposed to light up when caps is activated? On my whitefox it doesnt but all the LEDs do work when I turn on the brightness.
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #591 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 18:19:12 »
This is going to be embarrassing but ok. http://imgur.com/a/DOnn7 Not my first time but it's been a while.

Yeah that's fairly bad soldering :( Soldering advice aside (hop on irc if you want that), I think you have a solder bridge on the spacebar switch. The right pin seems to have a bit of solder going up to an empty pad in the adjacent position. In that position, the empty pad is the other pin of the same switch, so effectively that would short the switch and could confuse the controller. Use clean and shiny solder tip with a bit of flux to get the excess solder off and clear the bridge.
Yeah, had to switch to a new brand fairly early and the temp difference threw me, that and being afraid to scorch the first gen zeals further harmed my already novice technique. But I swear I've gotten the hang of it now that I've already screwed up.

Advice on the space bar was spot on, thanks!! Got it working. Right control and "K" still giving me trouble.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #592 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 18:45:01 »
This is going to be embarrassing but ok. http://imgur.com/a/DOnn7 Not my first time but it's been a while.

Yeah that's fairly bad soldering :( Soldering advice aside (hop on irc if you want that), I think you have a solder bridge on the spacebar switch. The right pin seems to have a bit of solder going up to an empty pad in the adjacent position. In that position, the empty pad is the other pin of the same switch, so effectively that would short the switch and could confuse the controller. Use clean and shiny solder tip with a bit of flux to get the excess solder off and clear the bridge.
Yeah, had to switch to a new brand fairly early and the temp difference threw me, that and being afraid to scorch the first gen zeals further harmed my already novice technique. But I swear I've gotten the hang of it now that I've already screwed up.

Advice on the space bar was spot on, thanks!! Got it working. Right control and "K" still giving me trouble.

There might be a solder bridge on right control as well, it's hard to tell from that picture. If possible, try cleaning up anything that's giving you trouble.
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #593 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 19:15:47 »
Received my WhiteFox kit recently. Very favorably impressed with the beautiful design of everything, including the packaging. Given my procrastination in getting to my various DIY projects, I probably should have opted for a fully assembled board (if this was indeed an option -- I've forgotten), although I am still undecided about which switches to use.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #594 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 20:05:02 »
This is going to be embarrassing but ok. Not my first time but it's been a while.

that's what she said  ;)

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #595 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 22:10:30 »
This is going to be embarrassing but ok. Not my first time but it's been a while.

that's what she said  ;)
Glad I didn't say "be gentle"  :-X

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #596 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 01:50:01 »
€76 euro custom taxes. RIP.
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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #597 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 04:21:16 »
This is going to be embarrassing but ok. http://imgur.com/a/DOnn7 Not my first time but it's been a while.

you have to clear all those pads and start over. Use less solder and try to be sharp on those pads.

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #598 on: Sun, 17 July 2016, 12:33:38 »
Finally received my whitefox this week :) True Fox layout is as amazing in use as it looked  :thumb:
142617-0
Some white keycaps have a little blue or red dot on them and I didn't receive an "any key", but I hope massdrop will fix that.

I'd like to add an rgb led to indicate what layer I'm on. I see some pins above the spacebar that I think I can use for this. I do have transparent zealio switches, so I hope it will bleed through. I can program so I think I can add this to the firmware.
Any tips from more experienced modders in how I would add this?
« Last Edit: Sun, 17 July 2016, 13:41:18 by eeymiel »

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Re: The long journey of the WhiteFox
« Reply #599 on: Fri, 22 July 2016, 09:44:15 »
phew new drop
 

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