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Title: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 22:10:40
Hey all,

Hope you are all doing well. I know we've seen a lot of small form factor boards on GH recently, but here's finally something I'm personally very about using/owning. Recently, I've been looking for a no frills TKL, with just a little excitement. That little RGB slit is everything I asked for.

Designed by PERCENT STUDIOS, here is SkoG.

LMK what you think!

Limited to: 100 or 200 units at FCFS

Express Interest - https://goo.gl/forms/JNtJFYf7zoDUZgYU2 (https://goo.gl/forms/JNtJFYf7zoDUZgYU2)

Noteworthy Quotes from the buzz around this board
- "Feels like a tank"
- "Smoothest anodization I've ever felt on a custom"
- and weighs about 4kgs depending on config.

Package Includes
- PCB
- Top Piece
- Bottom Piece
- Weight
- Screws
- Bumpons.

PCB Specifics
- Custom ps2avrgb TKL
- Does not support underglow
- Supports the LED RGB above the arrows.
- Silk screen color: TBD.

Pricing for kit
- $400 USD inclusive of PCB ; all you need is switches + keycaps.
- Does not include shipping fee.

Supported Layouts
- TBD

Anodization Colors
- TBD

Taobao Reference Page
- https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.tn6J7y&id=543976927078&ns=1&abbucket=5#detail

Timeline
- Schedule TBD
- Projected GB Period: 80 earth days.
- Shipped directly from Manufacturer to your door via express services.

Photos of the board

(https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/688612932/TB2JlfqcbBnpuFjSZFGXXX51pXa_!!688612932.jpg)

(https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/688612932/TB2KObDcm0mpuFjSZPiXXbssVXa_!!688612932.jpg)

(https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/688612932/TB2k0DEcdXnpuFjSZFoXXXLcpXa_!!688612932.jpg)

Keycaps - GMK Carbon by t0mbary.
(https://i.gyazo.com/abce4d4b275da3e254fa5b70d5f946d4.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Cocopah on Wed, 01 March 2017, 22:17:04
Dude your on a roll lately, great work.

(http://i.imgur.com/0mKXcg1.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 22:18:26
Dude your on a roll lately, great work *clap*.

Someone has to keep the train moving  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: gnmar2723 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 22:27:59
Damn, this looks awesome sauseome. Any idea on how much shipping will be?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 01 March 2017, 22:30:38
Yes! This looks AMAZING!

Great work on bringing great things to the community. I just hope I actually make the list.

Edit: What would the shipping price be?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 22:32:22
Yes! This looks AMAZING!

Does the $400 include shipping?

Great work on bringing great things to the community. I just hope I actually make the list.

400 is exclusive, but what's great here is that, the board will directly to you via the most affordable courier we can find.

Also, here's an express interest link - https://goo.gl/forms/JNtJFYf7zoDUZgYU2
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 01 March 2017, 22:33:44
Yes! This looks AMAZING!

Does the $400 include shipping?

Great work on bringing great things to the community. I just hope I actually make the list.

400 is exclusive, but what's great here is that, the board will directly to you via the most affordable courier we can find.

Also, here's an express interest link - https://goo.gl/forms/JNtJFYf7zoDUZgYU2

You're the man!
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: gnmar2723 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 22:35:45
Also, how soon are you looking to open this buy up?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: ixtopolis on Wed, 01 March 2017, 22:39:13
Dude. I'm waiting for a 96key. I tell myself I don't need any more boards if/when the Kira comes out. And then you do this. I may have to reevaluate how I live my life now...
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 01 March 2017, 22:42:03
Also, how soon are you looking to open this buy up?

Yeah, this thread has been open for a bit..is this ready to go into the group buy phase? Come on, JChan! It has almost been an hour!

All jokes aside, this is something I'm seriously digging. I can't wait! Thanks again for your hard work. Looking forward to this!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: breusch91 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 22:53:32
did we hit MOQ yet?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: kmba on Wed, 01 March 2017, 23:02:46
I don't need a tkl.. I don't need a tlk.. I don't need a tkl.. I don't need a tkl.. I don't need a tkl..

If this came in dark blue (dark navy for example), I would need a TKL.  Every blue is always light or bright blue.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 01 March 2017, 23:11:01
Er.... is that white?  /drool

Maybe just silver.  Still, very nice board.  Me likey.  Might just have to get on board this train.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 23:15:44
Er.... is that white?  /drool

Maybe just silver.  Still, very nice board.  Me likey.  Might just have to get on board this train.

We will have at these at the very least:

Black, silver, grey, ceramic white.

I believe Ceramic can scratch easily, but I'll wait for confirmation.

Material is... 6063 imported from Japan America. Not 6061. I'll update these details on the main post soon.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: nurbs on Wed, 01 March 2017, 23:45:16
Maybe just me, but the bottom is so nice looking I want to flip it over after every use and run my hands across the surface.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: drakeonyou on Thu, 02 March 2017, 00:47:51
I'm pretty sure that I didn't need a TKL board til I saw this.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 02 March 2017, 01:09:40
Very sorry but the material is actually 6063 from America!

Sounds like these boards will take a journey around the world before they get to your happy fingers.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: -musubi on Thu, 02 March 2017, 02:32:11
What top piece layouts will be offered (winkey, wkl, winkey with mini blockers)?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 02 March 2017, 03:28:16
keeping my eyes on this one
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: aurora on Thu, 02 March 2017, 03:50:23
Love EVERYTHING about it except the ''skog'' will there be a option to remove it jchan?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: maximm on Thu, 02 March 2017, 03:52:23
What angle are we looking at here?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: yuppie on Thu, 02 March 2017, 04:58:10
I'm down.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 02 March 2017, 05:07:45
Will a GON TKL PC (quasi A87 spec) fit? You know I dislike ps2avrGB.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 02 March 2017, 05:18:47
What is the spacing between the alphas cluster and nav keys/f keys? Is it the same as A87 PCBs? Say if I've got an A87 pcb, will I be able to do so? Or is the cluster spacing/USB port positioning different?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: sony on Thu, 02 March 2017, 05:59:16
Possibility for a qmk pcb? Also blue 👌
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: braidn on Thu, 02 March 2017, 06:06:59
Possibility for a qmk pcb? Also blue 👌

10 out of 10 would buy if there was a QMK compatible PCB
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: NotTheVacuum on Thu, 02 March 2017, 06:35:33
Without the win key block, I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 02 March 2017, 07:49:07
Possibility for a qmk pcb? Also blue 👌

10 out of 10 would buy if there was a QMK compatible PCB

All PS2AVRGB PCBs are now QMK compatible. It's been ported, and you can flash back (unlike the port for GON)
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: yuppie on Thu, 02 March 2017, 11:56:48
pls do this ok thx
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: kuhlman on Thu, 02 March 2017, 12:04:59
I'm interested, wish the price was lower
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: airs on Thu, 02 March 2017, 12:06:35
Skog logo on the top is a deal-killer :(
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: aurora on Thu, 02 March 2017, 14:55:41
Skog logo on the top is a deal-killer :(

Agreed its the only thing I dislike
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:00:29
Possibility for a qmk pcb? Also blue 👌

Possibility for a qmk pcb? Also blue 👌

10 out of 10 would buy if there was a QMK compatible PCB

All PS2AVRGB PCBs are now QMK compatible. It's been ported, and you can flash back (unlike the port for GON)

Possibility for a qmk pcb? Also blue 👌

10 out of 10 would buy if there was a QMK compatible PCB

The underglow is not compatible (yet), so you won't get the magic of the small slit above the arrow cluster. Correct me if I'm wrong though. I haven't heard / looked through it yet.

Without the win key block, I'm interested.

What top piece layouts will be offered (winkey, wkl, winkey with mini blockers)?

Will confirm the options soon.

Love EVERYTHING about it except the ''skog'' will there be a option to remove it jchan?

Skog logo on the top is a deal-killer :(

Agreed its the only thing I dislike

Skog logo on the top is a deal-killer :(

Will look into it.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:05:55
Also, we're currently looking at 100 units only.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Jedi on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:28:07
What's the weight in grams of this bad boy jchan?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:30:55
I actually like the logo :(


Anyway, I'm sure this is past the point of a redesign, and I really do like the case, but I would have done it differently.  Just a wish list here:

1.  I would have reduced the complexity of the bezels.  We're looking at 3 distinct widths, and it's overly busy to me.  I think it would make better design sense to keep it to 2 bezel widths maximum.  I've tried to illustrate below:

[attachimg=1]

It may be that the 3rd size bezel is actually the same as #2 but with a larger bevel on it, making it appear to be thinner.  However, if this is the case, it needs to be adjusted to appear to be the same by making it slightly wider. (or reduce the bevel radius/amount)


2.  Again, I would keep it simpler.  The cutout on the bottom is too busy for me and doesn't work with the curve on the back.  Granted, it looks awesome when viewed from underneath, but I don't think omitting it would kill that view.  I would just keep it solid like the photo on the right.

[attachimg=2]


Just a wish list.  I really like the case and I'll probably join the buy (hopefully lucky enough to get a spot), but I think it could be done better.  I LOVE the RGB slit.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Rafa_n on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:45:42

2.  Again, I would keep it simpler.  The cutout on the bottom is too busy for me and doesn't work with the curve on the back.  Granted, it looks awesome when viewed from underneath, but I don't think omitting it would kill that view.  I would just keep it solid like the photo on the right.

(Attachment Link)


Just a wish list.  I really like the case and I'll probably join the buy (hopefully lucky enough to get a spot), but I think it could be done better.  I LOVE the RGB slit.

+1 for this, looks way better without the cutout on the bottom imo.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 02 March 2017, 16:47:46
I actually like the logo :(


Anyway, I'm sure this is past the point of a redesign, and I really do like the case, but I would have done it differently.  Just a wish list here:

1.  I would have reduced the complexity of the bezels.  We're looking at 3 distinct widths, and it's overly busy to me.  I think it would make better design sense to keep it to 2 bezel widths maximum.  I've tried to illustrate below:

(Attachment Link)

It may be that the 3rd size bezel is actually the same as #2 but with a larger bevel on it, making it appear to be thinner.  However, if this is the case, it needs to be adjusted to appear to be the same by making it slightly wider. (or reduce the bevel radius/amount)


2.  Again, I would keep it simpler.  The cutout on the bottom is too busy for me and doesn't work with the curve on the back.  Granted, it looks awesome when viewed from underneath, but I don't think omitting it would kill that view.  I would just keep it solid like the photo on the right.

(Attachment Link)


Just a wish list.  I really like the case and I'll probably join the buy (hopefully lucky enough to get a spot), but I think it could be done better.  I LOVE the RGB slit.

I agree about keeping the bottom simpler, but I actually love the bezel sizes the way they currently are. It's one of my favorite attributes of the stunning 360c where the side bezels are thin and the section separation cross is thicker:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2950/15473451482_2f3bbe935d_h.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 02 March 2017, 16:52:05
This looks promising! The light bar reminds me of one of the Matrix boards.

I'd prefer it without the logo and the LED bar centered beneath the PgUp/PgDn/etc. cluster. The offset logo and light bar look a bit goofy to me.

The text on the bottom of the board is also a little bit over the top for something that's purporting to be clean and simple, but that's not a dealbreaker as no one really looks at the bottom of the board anyways.

Logo is icky though, if that goes away I think I'm adding another TKL to my collection.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 02 March 2017, 16:54:51


I agree about keeping the bottom simpler, but I actually love the bezel sizes the way they currently are. It's one of my favorite attributes of the stunning 360c where the side bezels are thin and the section separation cross is thicker:
Show Image
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2950/15473451482_2f3bbe935d_h.jpg)


That is a stunning board.  I can haz?  :p

I could budge on the bezels but I still feel like the cutout on the bottom is overly complicated
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: poolside on Thu, 02 March 2017, 17:01:10
What does SKOG mean? Forest?

(https://galloskog.se/wp-content/uploads/revslider/Slider_2015/forrest-1024x682.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 02 March 2017, 17:06:28
or this

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=skog

Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 02 March 2017, 17:08:42


I agree about keeping the bottom simpler, but I actually love the bezel sizes the way they currently are. It's one of my favorite attributes of the stunning 360c where the side bezels are thin and the section separation cross is thicker:
Show Image
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2950/15473451482_2f3bbe935d_h.jpg)


That is a stunning board.  I can haz?  :p

I could budge on the bezels but I still feel like the cutout on the bottom is overly complicated
it's not mine  :'(

yeah definitely agree with you about the bottom.. your quick photoshop of that sideview improved the look 100% for me
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: kmba on Thu, 02 March 2017, 19:06:15
Highly doubt any modifications will be made.  As noted, this board has already been designed, manufactured, and sold in the past.. I suspect this group buy will use the existing supply chain, manufacturer, cad files, etc. 
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: potatobot on Thu, 02 March 2017, 20:04:38
jchan i need one  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 02 March 2017, 20:24:57
Highly doubt any modifications will be made.  As noted, this board has already been designed, manufactured, and sold in the past.. I suspect this group buy will use the existing supply chain, manufacturer, cad files, etc.

yeah, I figured, just wish it was possible to make some changes :)
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 03 March 2017, 17:17:05
Highly doubt any modifications will be made.  As noted, this board has already been designed, manufactured, and sold in the past.. I suspect this group buy will use the existing supply chain, manufacturer, cad files, etc.

yeah, I figured, just wish it was possible to make some changes :)

I'm talking it over, and we'll see what small changes can be done. It will also help differentiate the 1st round, and our round.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Data on Fri, 03 March 2017, 17:36:02
Beautiful.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Sat, 04 March 2017, 04:30:08
Looks sick! I'm not really a fan of underglow either, so this would be perfect.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Unforgivable on Sat, 04 March 2017, 07:32:09
Ceramic White is via Microarc Oxidation, correct? If so, what are the pros and cons over standard anodizing?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: kmba on Sat, 04 March 2017, 14:58:05
Highly doubt any modifications will be made.  As noted, this board has already been designed, manufactured, and sold in the past.. I suspect this group buy will use the existing supply chain, manufacturer, cad files, etc.

yeah, I figured, just wish it was possible to make some changes :)

I'm talking it over, and we'll see what small changes can be done. It will also help differentiate the 1st round, and our round.


Cool.  Bezel sizes don't bother me much.. if anything though, I'd say make the side bezels a little larger to balance it out.  And the SKOG should go.  Not a fan of branding on the top.  Save it for the bottom.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: hippiepete on Sun, 05 March 2017, 06:57:59
I'm all in for this keyboard. And even more excited with Jchan's message about possibly making some modifications to differ from the first round.

I would love the option to remove the SKOG logo, or the possibility of reducing it's size. What @reececonrad did with removing the cutout bottom piece is A-OK!

Could we get measurements on the angle?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 09 March 2017, 18:40:27
hmm...
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: jchan94 on Thu, 09 March 2017, 18:47:40
Hello everyone!

I got some more information for everything. I hope this clears things up.

1 ) What is the angle?
- 7.8 degreeees of awesome

2 ) What is the actual total weight?
- With brass insert, 4.5KG

3 ) what is the extra price for brass weight over 6063 weight?
- $65.00 USD + shipping

4 ) Can we make any design changes (logo, etc)?
- Unfortunately not.

5 ) What are all the anodization options for each piece (top piece, bottom piece, plate)
- Jchan will get chips of all the colors offered.
- 5 limited white ceramic units.

6 ) What layouts are compatible for the PCB?
- ANSI WK/WKL

7 ) What top piece layouts will be offered? (Winkey, winkeyless winkey with mini blockers)?
- WK/WKL

8 ) Is the white ceramic scratchable?
- Yes, but less than other customs that have been offered with white ceramic.

Lastly, this buy will be limited to 100 units only.


Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: arcsay on Thu, 09 March 2017, 22:34:53
@Jchan94 I don't see it noted anywhere but what kind of USB port is used? Any chance for USB - Type C?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 09 March 2017, 22:37:57
@Jchan94 I don't see it noted anywhere but what kind of USB port is used? Any chance for USB - Type C?

i'm not entirely sure, but i don't think it's impossible to solder one on in place of whatever it comes with
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: potatobot on Fri, 10 March 2017, 00:39:09
Hello everyone!

I got some more information for everything. I hope this clears things up.

1 ) What is the angle?
- 7.8 degreeees of awesome

2 ) What is the actual total weight?
- With brass insert, 4.5KG

3 ) what is the extra price for brass weight over 6063 weight?
- $65.00 USD + shipping

4 ) Can we make any design changes (logo, etc)?
- Unfortunately not.

5 ) What are all the anodization options for each piece (top piece, bottom piece, plate)
- Jchan will get chips of all the colors offered.
- 5 limited white ceramic units.

6 ) What layouts are compatible for the PCB?
- ANSI WK/WKL

7 ) What top piece layouts will be offered? (Winkey, winkeyless winkey with mini blockers)?
- WK/WKL

8 ) Is the white ceramic scratchable?
- Yes, but less than other customs that have been offered with white ceramic.

Lastly, this buy will be limited to 100 units only.


are there no special legends on these skog's? like 8/100 would look really appalling to me  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: LeoChien on Fri, 10 March 2017, 00:59:34
@Jchan94 I don't see it noted anywhere but what kind of USB port is used? Any chance for USB - Type C?

As I know, it's only mini USB.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Unforgivable on Fri, 10 March 2017, 17:19:34
Hello everyone!

I got some more information for everything. I hope this clears things up.

1 ) What is the angle?
- 7.8 degreeees of awesome

2 ) What is the actual total weight?
- With brass insert, 4.5KG

3 ) what is the extra price for brass weight over 6063 weight?
- $65.00 USD + shipping

4 ) Can we make any design changes (logo, etc)?
- Unfortunately not.

5 ) What are all the anodization options for each piece (top piece, bottom piece, plate)
- Jchan will get chips of all the colors offered.
- 5 limited white ceramic units.

6 ) What layouts are compatible for the PCB?
- ANSI WK/WKL

7 ) What top piece layouts will be offered? (Winkey, winkeyless winkey with mini blockers)?
- WK/WKL

8 ) Is the white ceramic scratchable?
- Yes, but less than other customs that have been offered with white ceramic.

Lastly, this buy will be limited to 100 units only.



Is the white ceramic color done via Microarc Oxidation?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: LeoChien on Sun, 12 March 2017, 21:28:37
Hello everyone!

I got some more information for everything. I hope this clears things up.

1 ) What is the angle?
- 7.8 degreeees of awesome

2 ) What is the actual total weight?
- With brass insert, 4.5KG

3 ) what is the extra price for brass weight over 6063 weight?
- $65.00 USD + shipping

4 ) Can we make any design changes (logo, etc)?
- Unfortunately not.

5 ) What are all the anodization options for each piece (top piece, bottom piece, plate)
- Jchan will get chips of all the colors offered.
- 5 limited white ceramic units.

6 ) What layouts are compatible for the PCB?
- ANSI WK/WKL

7 ) What top piece layouts will be offered? (Winkey, winkeyless winkey with mini blockers)?
- WK/WKL

8 ) Is the white ceramic scratchable?
- Yes, but less than other customs that have been offered with white ceramic.

Lastly, this buy will be limited to 100 units only.



Is the white ceramic color done via Microarc Oxidation?

Yes, it is via MaO
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: RyuDragoon on Thu, 16 March 2017, 21:25:31
Wow! This looks great! I bet it would be a solid board to slap some linear switches on!
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Unforgivable on Fri, 17 March 2017, 20:43:51
Hello everyone!

I got some more information for everything. I hope this clears things up.

1 ) What is the angle?
- 7.8 degreeees of awesome

2 ) What is the actual total weight?
- With brass insert, 4.5KG

3 ) what is the extra price for brass weight over 6063 weight?
- $65.00 USD + shipping

4 ) Can we make any design changes (logo, etc)?
- Unfortunately not.

5 ) What are all the anodization options for each piece (top piece, bottom piece, plate)
- Jchan will get chips of all the colors offered.
- 5 limited white ceramic units.

6 ) What layouts are compatible for the PCB?
- ANSI WK/WKL

7 ) What top piece layouts will be offered? (Winkey, winkeyless winkey with mini blockers)?
- WK/WKL

8 ) Is the white ceramic scratchable?
- Yes, but less than other customs that have been offered with white ceramic.

Lastly, this buy will be limited to 100 units only.



Is the white ceramic color done via Microarc Oxidation?

Yes, it is via MaO

Thank you!

I heard it was stronger than regular annodization. Was that false? :(
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: pr0ximity on Sat, 18 March 2017, 16:55:25
Might be down for a white ceramic, but I can only have one between this and the M65 :\
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Liocer on Sun, 26 March 2017, 13:41:39
down for this, I don't think it needs changes. The PCB will support switch LEDs? is that correct? The firmware does anyway
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 30 March 2017, 00:03:46
Yes, very interested.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: axm2 on Fri, 31 March 2017, 23:40:43
down for this, I don't think it needs changes. The PCB will support switch LEDs? is that correct? The firmware does anyway

According to jchan's post on reddit, it looks like a yes

https://redd.it/62qn85
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: jchan94 on Fri, 31 March 2017, 23:49:00
Hi everyone,

Here's a quick build I did today of the SkoG with SA Camping.

Full Album - http://imgur.com/a/xnW0Q

(http://i.imgur.com/7ad8l4l.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/cbYTyl5.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/IEGs1EC.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 02 April 2017, 21:36:56
Hi everyone,

Here's a quick build I did today of the SkoG with SA Camping.

Full Album - http://imgur.com/a/xnW0Q

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/7ad8l4l.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/cbYTyl5.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/IEGs1EC.jpg)


That LOGO on the weight! Beautiful! JChan, any ETA on this beauty?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: sony on Thu, 06 April 2017, 19:02:38
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1Sxpdfq-ebJY2RCNVRFUFNHZ1k

Large album of pics I got off the Percent qq chat.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: YH YOON on Wed, 12 April 2017, 07:59:50
Will it start GB?...
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: futurecrime on Sun, 16 April 2017, 18:47:04
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1Sxpdfq-ebJY2RCNVRFUFNHZ1k

Large album of pics I got off the Percent qq chat.

The teal and grey one is thrilling me, hopefully it's an option.

Also, contrary to popular opinion, I love the logo. I think I just like the word SKOG. I notice it's painted or filled in on some of those boards in the gallery. Any chance that'll be an option in this GB?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: fancymans on Sun, 16 April 2017, 19:06:31
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1Sxpdfq-ebJY2RCNVRFUFNHZ1k

Large album of pics I got off the Percent qq chat.

The teal and grey one is thrilling me, hopefully it's an option.

Also, contrary to popular opinion, I love the logo. I think I just like the word SKOG. I notice it's painted or filled in on some of those boards in the gallery. Any chance that'll be an option in this GB?

Same, I kinda like it too. I'm a fan of the 'O'
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: LeoChien on Sun, 16 April 2017, 19:27:55
[attachimg=1]

SkoG /w SA Camping
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: NealCaffery on Mon, 17 April 2017, 07:58:51
Does it look like awesome!How to attend this group buy?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: fancymans on Mon, 17 April 2017, 14:26:15
Does it look like awesome!How to attend this group buy?

It's not announced yet, but I think it should be soon. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 19 April 2017, 04:34:50
(Attachment Link)

SkoG /w SA Camping

Did you just steal my keyboard from my office?  :-\
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 19 April 2017, 06:38:09
(Attachment Link)

SkoG /w SA Camping

Did you just steal my keyboard from my office?  :-\

pls, yours has blockers
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: deterouni on Wed, 19 April 2017, 09:26:11
Is this still going to be an April Drop or will it slide to May? Trying to plan finances.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 19 April 2017, 17:06:25
Is this still going to be an April Drop or will it slide to May? Trying to plan finances.

April, Soon. Slowly finalizing the details. We almost there ;)
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: futurecrime on Wed, 19 April 2017, 17:16:00
I'm fizzing with anticipation.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 19 April 2017, 17:43:52
Is this still going to be an April Drop or will it slide to May? Trying to plan finances.

April, Soon. Slowly finalizing the details. We almost there ;)

JChan, pls tell them to raise the White ceramic limit! :(
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: deterouni on Wed, 19 April 2017, 17:46:25
Is this still going to be an April Drop or will it slide to May? Trying to plan finances.

April, Soon. Slowly finalizing the details. We almost there ;)

Thanks jchan your the best!
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Theconejo on Wed, 19 April 2017, 19:28:17
What are the chances of getting in on this at this point? The OP says there is a limit right?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: hpfalcon on Wed, 19 April 2017, 20:50:32
What are the chances of getting in on this at this point? The OP says there is a limit right?

drop hasnt started yet so your chance is as good as anyones
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: SBJ on Sat, 22 April 2017, 02:21:16
Expressed interest!  :thumb:
Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: pr0ximity on Sat, 22 April 2017, 07:40:54
Gonna be tough decision between this and Moon  :-X
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: TheZissou on Sat, 22 April 2017, 08:17:29
Gonna be tough decision between this and Moon  :-X

I'm having that exact same issue.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: futurecrime on Mon, 24 April 2017, 08:42:21
Would love to see the matching numpad offered up as well. So nice!

Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: futurecrime on Mon, 24 April 2017, 12:07:16
So this SKOG GB is gonna be on the new Keyclack site. As it's limited to 100 units, is there any chance of getting a heads up on when the site will go live? I'm in the UK and paranoid I'll wake up one morning this week to find all the SKOGs gone and my dreams smashed to bits.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: _rubik on Mon, 24 April 2017, 12:17:46
This group buy is by far the most tempting I've come across in a while. I desperately want to join, but alas I don't think I can't now. Will this be offered again at a later date?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: deterouni on Mon, 24 April 2017, 18:22:16
So this SKOG GB is gonna be on the new Keyclack site. As it's limited to 100 units, is there any chance of getting a heads up on when the site will go live? I'm in the UK and paranoid I'll wake up one morning this week to find all the SKOGs gone and my dreams smashed to bits.

I fell the same way.  I really don't wanna miss out on this buy.  I have been following for months.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: futurecrime on Mon, 24 April 2017, 18:31:07
So this SKOG GB is gonna be on the new Keyclack site. As it's limited to 100 units, is there any chance of getting a heads up on when the site will go live? I'm in the UK and paranoid I'll wake up one morning this week to find all the SKOGs gone and my dreams smashed to bits.

I fell the same way.  I really don't wanna miss out on this buy.  I have been following for months.

First challenge: Get in this GB
Second challenge: Acquire matching DEER numpad.

Only then will I sleep soundly.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: fancymans on Mon, 24 April 2017, 18:33:33
I think you'll be fine as long as you keep updated on the thread/reddit. It's going to be popular, but I don't think it'll sell out instantly.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: futurecrime on Mon, 24 April 2017, 18:45:17
I think you'll be fine as long as you keep updated on the thread/reddit. It's going to be popular, but I don't think it'll sell out instantly.

Just got an email from Jchan saying the same. I'm resting a little easier...
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: kiettv12 on Wed, 26 April 2017, 06:53:20
In sw led full support please
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 27 April 2017, 06:44:36
Oh damn, dat newsletter.

Ceramic white still limited? New site looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: futurecrime on Thu, 27 April 2017, 09:26:11
So close to being able to pay for this and then wait 12 weeks for it.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: base on Thu, 27 April 2017, 09:29:53
How is the plate/pcb attached to the case? Any pics? Also, looks like the plate does not support switch top removal, can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: xondat on Thu, 27 April 2017, 10:20:54
How is the plate/pcb attached to the case? Any pics? Also, looks like the plate does not support switch top removal, can anyone confirm?

It's top mounted, and no, it doesn't support switch top removal.

(http://i.imgur.com/T0lnOeG.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BjS8QLq.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Theconejo on Thu, 27 April 2017, 10:33:05
How is the plate/pcb attached to the case? Any pics? Also, looks like the plate does not support switch top removal, can anyone confirm?

It's top mounted, and no, it doesn't support switch top removal.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/T0lnOeG.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BjS8QLq.jpg)



Does the pcb support switch leds on the rest of the keys or only on the ones you see in that picture?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: xondat on Thu, 27 April 2017, 10:37:50
How is the plate/pcb attached to the case? Any pics? Also, looks like the plate does not support switch top removal, can anyone confirm?

It's top mounted, and no, it doesn't support switch top removal.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/T0lnOeG.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BjS8QLq.jpg)



Does the pcb support switch leds on the rest of the keys or only on the ones you see in that picture?

Looks to be for all the keys.

(http://i.imgur.com/uJCLzjq.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Theconejo on Thu, 27 April 2017, 10:40:23
How is the plate/pcb attached to the case? Any pics? Also, looks like the plate does not support switch top removal, can anyone confirm?

It's top mounted, and no, it doesn't support switch top removal.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/T0lnOeG.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BjS8QLq.jpg)



Does the pcb support switch leds on the rest of the keys or only on the ones you see in that picture?

Looks to be for all the keys.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uJCLzjq.jpg)


Thanks for that. I'm still on the fence if I want to get in on this. I'm getting a sentraq 65, and although its no were near the quality I got in on that aluminum ikbc rgb TKL from md. Finding it hard to justify this =\

The good thing is, when I bought my zealios for the sentraq I bought 90 in case I decided to do a tkl. So I have that going for me.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: xondat on Thu, 27 April 2017, 11:21:12
How is the plate/pcb attached to the case? Any pics? Also, looks like the plate does not support switch top removal, can anyone confirm?

It's top mounted, and no, it doesn't support switch top removal.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/T0lnOeG.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BjS8QLq.jpg)



Does the pcb support switch leds on the rest of the keys or only on the ones you see in that picture?

Looks to be for all the keys.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uJCLzjq.jpg)


Thanks for that. I'm still on the fence if I want to get in on this. I'm getting a sentraq 65, and although its no were near the quality I got in on that aluminum ikbc rgb TKL from md. Finding it hard to justify this =\

The good thing is, when I bought my zealios for the sentraq I bought 90 in case I decided to do a tkl. So I have that going for me.

Jump out of both, get in on this ;)
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 27 April 2017, 20:04:41
Ended up joining the GB through my phone while I was in a parking lot waiting for it to open, nice.

Worked out, though, managed to snag a ceramic white.

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Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: fancymans on Thu, 27 April 2017, 20:05:06
RIP. Missed ceramic white bc old login doesn't work on new site. FeelsBadMan
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 27 April 2017, 20:06:04
In for black with red accent!
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Thu, 27 April 2017, 20:07:19
Got ceramic white letsgoooo
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: fancymans on Thu, 27 April 2017, 20:09:30
Got ceramic white letsgoooo
I'm so bitter.  :-\
Oh well, more GBs will come eventually.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: MrSteve920 on Thu, 27 April 2017, 20:11:56
Managed to get ceramic white!
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: futurecrime on Thu, 27 April 2017, 20:12:47
Had Ceramic White in the basket, decided I needed the silver top/grey bottom/teal plate as well. Bad move. White was gone by the time I went to finalise...  But in the end, I got the one I really wanted, not the one I wanted just cos it's rare. So I'm stoked. And my wallet is hanging in there for now.

Now then, lets get on to these matching DEER numpads. Anyone know how to grip one of those beauties?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: futurecrime on Thu, 27 April 2017, 20:15:29
RIP. Missed ceramic white bc old login doesn't work on new site. FeelsBadMan

I tested it earlier for fear of this. Still didn't get the white. Who needs it anyway? Right?   :mad:
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: fancymans on Thu, 27 April 2017, 20:19:25
RIP. Missed ceramic white bc old login doesn't work on new site. FeelsBadMan

I tested it earlier for fear of this. Still didn't get the white. Who needs it anyway? Right?   :mad:

Unfortunately for me, white is my favorite color... 😅
But it'll just feel that much more satisfying when I finally get a white alu TKL.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Theconejo on Thu, 27 April 2017, 21:19:16
I'm out with my family and missed the white also. Do the colors of the weights go black, red, cyan, silver? If that's right, the black weight looks blue to me :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 27 April 2017, 23:41:48
****, ceramic white are all gone :( No point of getting another colour tkl.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 27 April 2017, 23:47:30
I was bummed out too. I ordered the moment the site was up and bam, right when I paid it said ceramic white wasn't available. I was fast, but not fast enough.

Is there any chance the limit could be increased from 5?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Theconejo on Thu, 27 April 2017, 23:49:07
I was bummed out too. I ordered the moment the site was up and bam, right when I paid it said ceramic white wasn't available. I was fast, but not fast enough.

Is there any chance the limit could be increased from 5?

I think it was 10 no? I asked jchan and he said the maker wants to keep it Limited edition.

edit: hope that's ok to say.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 27 April 2017, 23:52:35
I was bummed out too. I ordered the moment the site was up and bam, right when I paid it said ceramic white wasn't available. I was fast, but not fast enough.

Is there any chance the limit could be increased from 5?

I think it was 10 no? I asked jchan and he said the maker wants to keep it Limited edition.

edit: hope that's ok to say.

Limit was 5, sadly. Maybe even 4, as soon as it went live I only saw 4 available. That, or they may have just been lightning fast.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Liocer on Thu, 27 April 2017, 23:53:26
Site worked well. I'm down for some skog might want to get yourself an ssl certificate though ;)


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Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: rioc on Fri, 28 April 2017, 02:12:47
if anyone changes their mind on not having ceramic white, please let me know...

or also if I can convince / bribe someone to let their ceramic white slide and let me have it.

really bummed I missed that option. had to go with matte silver, black accent and brass weight (for now... common, let me bribe you ceramic white orderers)
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: faxe on Fri, 28 April 2017, 08:17:14
Are there any possible layout diagramms for the pcb? What comes presoldered on the pcb?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: fancymans on Fri, 28 April 2017, 13:42:34
might want to get yourself an ssl certificate though ;)

^ I second this.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: dante on Fri, 28 April 2017, 13:47:15
jchan:

Any interest in doing a 101/103/104 (100%) down the road?

Also what are your personal thoughts on hotswap?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: odd on Sat, 29 April 2017, 17:25:09
How is the plate/pcb attached to the case? Any pics? Also, looks like the plate does not support switch top removal, can anyone confirm?

It's top mounted, and no, it doesn't support switch top removal.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/T0lnOeG.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BjS8QLq.jpg)


Where can I get those funky LEDs and what are they called?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: rioc on Mon, 01 May 2017, 04:52:24
oh, a few questions:

I know 100x is the limit, but is it also the moq? Or will it happen below that too?

also, plate supports ISO, but does the PCB too? (also, do holtites fit well on the pcb?)
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: ThatsFineThatOne on Mon, 01 May 2017, 06:57:51
oh, a few questions:

I know 100x is the limit, but is it also the moq? Or will it happen below that too?

also, plate supports ISO, but does the PCB too? (also, do holtites fit well on the pcb?)

I have the same question about ISO support.
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: yap68 on Mon, 01 May 2017, 07:16:37
According to some Chinese forums, Ceramic White through Micro-arc technology is prone to scratches and will get dirty in no time which is impossible to be cleaned. Anyone can prove this?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: richard912 on Mon, 01 May 2017, 08:22:20
Has this GB started? If not, when is it expected to be launched?
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: SpareWalrus on Mon, 01 May 2017, 08:25:25
Has this GB started? If not, when is it expected to be launched?
It has. https://www.keyclack.com/groupbuy/skogTKL

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Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: richard912 on Mon, 01 May 2017, 09:17:49
Has this GB started? If not, when is it expected to be launched?
It has. https://www.keyclack.com/groupbuy/skogTKL

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Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: richard912 on Mon, 01 May 2017, 09:45:58
Curios to know if the PCB supports Holtites
Title: Re: [IC] SkoG Percent 80% TKL
Post by: Moderation Team on Mon, 01 May 2017, 10:11:19
Interest Check phase for this project has moved on to group buy phase, and discussion about the actual group buy should not be done from the IC thread.  Please contact KeyClack for any customer support with the group buy.