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Offline jmchargue

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HHKB P2 delete key default
« on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:30:40 »
What's up with the backspace key being delete, by default? Is there a memo that I missed explaining how this is more useful? I kind of don't want to change it, because I know there should be some reason for it being this way..

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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:32:38 »
As standard it is backspace on my board....

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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:37:48 »
As standard it is backspace on my board....



>dat upper right hand corner.

That is odd that yours is not like this.

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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:43:11 »
Dipswitch allows you to quickly change that.

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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:43:14 »

dipswitch 3 changes it to a backspace and moves the delete to function+~ key
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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:45:30 »
I have top right hand key as BS and FN+DEL= DEL.


I have the blank version.
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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:53:22 »
Dipswitch allows you to quickly change that.

Yeah, I've been messing with all the different configurations, I'm just wondering why it was made to be delete by default. How could this be an advantage? In terminal use maybe?

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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 15:27:30 »
hhkb is basically a reduced size Sun/Unix keyboard and was modeled after that.

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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 16:12:41 »
Dipswitch allows you to quickly change that.

Yeah, I've been messing with all the different configurations, I'm just wondering why it was made to be delete by default. How could this be an advantage? In terminal use maybe?

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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 16:30:22 »
hhkb is basically a reduced size Sun/Unix keyboard and was modeled after that.

As IvanIvanovich mentions:

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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 05:36:29 »
Dipswitch allows you to quickly change that.

Yeah, I've been messing with all the different configurations, I'm just wondering why it was made to be delete by default. How could this be an advantage? In terminal use maybe?

IIRC, Delete is used as Backspace in Emacs. Hardcore vi/vim users would probably use x instead of backspace too...

hhkb is basically a reduced size Sun/Unix keyboard and was modeled after that.

As IvanIvanovich mentions:

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On the later Sun Type 5, they put Backspace where Delete is located on that Type 3, and moved Delete to where you'd find it on a modern PC keyboard.

« Last Edit: Tue, 24 September 2013, 05:41:03 by ch_123 »

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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 05:42:04 »
Dipswitch allows you to quickly change that.

Yeah, I've been messing with all the different configurations, I'm just wondering why it was made to be delete by default. How could this be an advantage? In terminal use maybe?

IIRC, Delete is used as Backspace in Emacs. Hardcore vi/vim users would probably use x instead of backspace too...

hhkb is basically a reduced size Sun/Unix keyboard and was modeled after that.

As IvanIvanovich mentions:

Show Image


On the later Sun Type 5, they put Backspace where Delete is located on that Type 3, and moved Delete to where you'd find it on a modern PC keyboard.

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okay, but the HHKB is based on the Type 3 keyboard, so the Type 5 is completely irrelevant.
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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 05:43:27 »
okay, but the HHKB is based on the Type 3 keyboard, so the Type 5 is completely irrelevant.

I wasn't contradicting you, I was merely ruminating on the progression of Sun's layouts over time ;)

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Re: HHKB P2 delete key default
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 16:26:38 »
okay, but the HHKB is based on the Type 3 keyboard, so the Type 5 is completely irrelevant.

I wasn't contradicting you, I was merely ruminating on the progression of Sun's layouts over time ;)

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