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Title: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: yuppie on Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:25:14
Need some numbers over here.
Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: Signature on Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:27:22
If you intake 150-200 mg per kg of bodymass it's a Lethal Dose for 50% of humans (LD50).
Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:33:33
It's a stimulant..  as addicting as cigarettes..

Depending on how you're using it, and WHY you're using it..   it can be bad..


If you're staying up late (playing vidya),  then you're tired in the morning at work.. you take stims to make up for the lack of sleep. THIS is bad.. as you will age significantly faster due to chronic sleep loss.


If you always sleep 7-9 hours,   and only drink coffee when an unexpected deadline comes along and you have to put in overtime,   THIS is acceptable / productive use..



If you're bored, and in between getting high on marijuana while your legs are restless waiting for the dealer to show up, you drink coffee,  this is bad..


Pretty straight forward...


Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:35:17
It's a stimulant..  as addicting as cigarettes..
No, it is not as addicting as nicotine. Nicotine is one of the three most addictive substances known: the other two being cocaine and heroin.
Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: yuppie on Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:42:35
It's a stimulant..  as addicting as cigarettes..

Depending on how you're using it, and WHY you're using it..   it can be bad..


If you're staying up late (playing vidya),  then you're tired in the morning at work.. you take stims to make up for the lack of sleep. THIS is bad.. as you will age significantly faster due to chronic sleep loss.


If you always sleep 7-9 hours,   and only drink coffee when an unexpected deadline comes along and you have to put in overtime,   THIS is acceptable / productive use..



If you're bored, and in between getting high on marijuana while your legs are restless waiting for the dealer to show up, you drink coffee,  this is bad..


Pretty straight forward...




This is the answer I was looking for.
Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:44:10
It's a stimulant..  as addicting as cigarettes..
No, it is not as addicting as nicotine. Nicotine is one of the three most addictive substances known: the other two being cocaine and heroin.


Newwwrrpp..

Coffee is as addicting as cigarettes..
Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: ArchDill on Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:59:43
It's a stimulant..  as addicting as cigarettes..

Depending on how you're using it, and WHY you're using it..   it can be bad..


If you're staying up late (playing vidya),  then you're tired in the morning at work.. you take stims to make up for the lack of sleep. THIS is bad.. as you will age significantly faster due to chronic sleep loss.


If you always sleep 7-9 hours,   and only drink coffee when an unexpected deadline comes along and you have to put in overtime,   THIS is acceptable / productive use..



If you're bored, and in between getting high on marijuana while your legs are restless waiting for the dealer to show up, you drink coffee,  this is bad..


Pretty straight forward...




I need to rethink my life choices...
Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 30 November 2018, 16:03:55

I need to rethink my life choices...

It's a big deal, because you can't Recover Sleep..

If you lost 15% of sleep for a whole year.. that' is 15% less recovery time for your whole body.

You can never get that time back, ontop of the fact that your recovery rate is always dropping as age increases..


You have to SLEEP NOW to the Maximum amount..   


Of course that's not what the Oligarchs who own you wants, but if one never exercises that choice, well... No one else to blame
Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 30 November 2018, 17:30:14
A pot a day and you'll be OK

More than 12 cups and your stomach erupts
Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: fanpeople on Sat, 01 December 2018, 00:28:04
It's a stimulant..  as addicting as cigarettes..
No, it is not as addicting as nicotine. Nicotine is one of the three most addictive substances known: the other two being cocaine and heroin.

2 out of 3, maybe it is time to go for the trifecta.
Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: Carcharocles on Sat, 01 December 2018, 01:00:13
No, it is not as addicting as nicotine. Nicotine is one of the three most addictive substances known: the other two being cocaine and heroin.
An honorable mention is alcohol: while not as addictive as Nicotine (almost everyone who uses nicotine becomes addicted, but alcoholism isn't nearly as widespread in regards to drinkers), the habit is incredibly hard to kick if you do become an alcoholic. And dangerous as well--the DT's can and do kill. I had a sort-of-uncle (my cousins' grandfather, but through their father's side, to whom I'm not related by blood) who literally drank so hard for so long that quitting drinking would have been instant death even with medication. I also have a great grandmother to whom I am blood related who actually died because her daughter forced her to stop drinking without easing her off (a neighbor had told her to give her a teaspoon of liquor a day; my grandmother, like so many people, didn't realize why and refused to do so. She felt guilty about it until the day she died.)

Probably a good idea to point out that Nicotine not only gets its hooks on you very quickly, but absolutely refuses to let go. Some people can quit cold turkey, but most can't. Caffeine isn't nearly as addicting, as it's easier to quit and it definitely doesn't cause the severe psychological problems quitting a nicotine habit causes. That said, quitting Caffeine is hard, both because it can be addictive and because it's literally everywhere in society.

Unlike nicotine however, a lot of doctors recommend a moderate caffeine intake to help with weight loss. Both are stimulants, but caffeine is much easier to manage. These doctors however recommend it be taken as black coffee, which can be hard to pull off unless you either like very bitter hot beverages or have the skill, money, equipment and know-how to make a proper cup of coffee.
Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: iri on Sat, 01 December 2018, 05:12:30
Can confirm, nicotine is ****ing addictive while caffeine is not.

Quitting nicotine took me three weeks of misery.
Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 December 2018, 05:23:21
It's a stimulant..  as addicting as cigarettes..
No, it is not as addicting as nicotine. Nicotine is one of the three most addictive substances known: the other two being cocaine and heroin.

2 out of 3, maybe it is time to go for the trifecta.

Y'all think it's the most widely used stimulant by accident ?

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Title: Re: How much caffeine can one intake before it becomes unhealthy?
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 03 December 2018, 16:38:54
Caffeine is easy to kick. It just causes one or two headaches, and, a week later, you're good.

I've never smoked habitually, but I did smoke cigarettes and cigars occasionally for a couple years as a social thing during the winter (sit in a shack with a potbelly stove and stoke it up). I never understood why it was pleasurable or how anyone could feel addicted to it. The only effect I ever felt was slight appetite suppression, or nausea in the case of cigars. I know it's a physical addiction, but it just seems weird that someone could do it enough to cause that effect.