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Re: Why won't logitech just remake the G9X?
« Reply #50 on: Sat, 24 December 2016, 21:20:31 »
sucking it up because this mouse is too nice to not use just because of the ****ing scroll wheel, but it's too stiff man it actually hurts.

might try a 403 next?

Get a Logitech Trackman. Yes i know it has no sort of scroll wheel and that sucks, but it's the best mouse related input device I can possibly think of, for any purpose.

BTW Can't you replace the USB wire, and if that isn't the problem, the controller board inside of it with one from a different mouse..

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Re: Why won't logitech just remake the G9X?
« Reply #51 on: Sat, 24 December 2016, 21:23:03 »
the sensor would bother me after being on the 3366 for so long


and yeah there's no way i'm gonna use a trackman coming from a g9x with no shell, too big too heavy
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Re: Why won't logitech just remake the G9X?
« Reply #52 on: Sat, 24 December 2016, 21:53:22 »
Middle mouse button on the G403/G Pro is better than the G502, but still lackluster compared to the G602/G402/G303.

My Castor has one of the better middle mouse buttons of the past few years, and the cable while braided isn't stiff - similar in flexibility to paracord with it's internal core removed.
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Re: Why won't logitech just remake the G9X?
« Reply #53 on: Sun, 25 December 2016, 18:35:55 »
the sensor would bother me after being on the 3366 for so long


and yeah there's no way i'm gonna use a trackman coming from a g9x with no shell, too big too heavy

Nothing to pick up? But I understand it's a whole different thing from using any mouse at all.

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Re: Why won't logitech just remake the G9X?
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 13 October 2017, 06:22:00 »
I know this is old but there probably shouldn't be more threads.

I'm not sure why logitech hasn't released a modernized g9x yet. They perfected their sensor/switches/firmware ages ago and pump out tons of weird and awkwardly shaped mouses with it. The g9x is for sure the best shaped mouse for fingertip gripping ever released, and I suppose logitech thinks the g303/g502 are proper replacements for it when they are not at all similar.

I've always hated inadequate sensors or firmware with smoothing/random acceleration/delay and what not but I still use the G9x over the dozens that I've tried. (EC2a, ninox aurora, ZA13, G-pro, G303, G400, FK2, WMO, abyssus, kinzu/kinzuadder)

From my understanding of the G9x sensor, the ADNS-9500, I will give some advice that might make using it more bearable. Laser sensors jitter a lot on bumpy and uneven surfaces, such as low-quality cloth mousepads like the QCK. Firmware is used to negate the jitter and this results in about 5% negative/positive acceleration at random. From my experience using flat surfaces lessens the acceleration quite a bit. I'm not really sure what the flattest kinds of mousepads would be but I'm currently using a frostpad (which is a glass mousepad similar to the icemat).


I'll make a list here of what are likely flat mousepads, starting from the flattest:
icemat/frostpad (the only issue with glass is that it degrades your mouseskates faster, you likely would need a few replacement ones)
any hardpad (I'm not fond of these at all, maybe some people would be)
artisan (the semi-hard/semi-glass ones such as the shiden)
artisan (cloth)
zowie GS-R (this mousepad is high quality & manufactured to be quite flat/durable, unlike the QCK, I am unsure if laser sensors perform any different on cloth pads though)


Another thing is that the G9x tends to jitter significantly if the sensor lens is dirty. You can test if there is any jitter by setting your G9x to the highest dpi and opening paint, switching to the pencil tool and drawing lines/circles. If it's dirty the jitter will be quite noticeable. To fix this just get a q-tip with isopropyl alcohol and rub the sensor. Usually the jitter isn't noticeable at low dpis but maybe it increases acceleration.

Lastly, the bigger shell is better than the precision one. Seriously
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Re: Why won't logitech just remake the G9X?
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 13 October 2017, 06:55:07 »
no shell best shell.

I use G pro now but have been unlucky with buttons that stop working. still hoping for my g9x remake
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Re: Why won't logitech just remake the G9X?
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 13 October 2017, 08:33:34 »
I know this is old but there probably shouldn't be more threads.

I'm not sure why logitech hasn't released a modernized g9x yet. They perfected their sensor/switches/firmware ages ago and pump out tons of weird and awkwardly shaped mouses with it. The g9x is for sure the best shaped mouse for fingertip gripping ever released, and I suppose logitech thinks the g303/g502 are proper replacements for it when they are not at all similar.

I've always hated inadequate sensors or firmware with smoothing/random acceleration/delay and what not but I still use the G9x over the dozens that I've tried. (EC2a, ninox aurora, ZA13, G-pro, G303, G400, FK2, WMO, abyssus, kinzu/kinzuadder)

From my understanding of the G9x sensor, the ADNS-9500, I will give some advice that might make using it more bearable. Laser sensors jitter a lot on bumpy and uneven surfaces, such as low-quality cloth mousepads like the QCK. Firmware is used to negate the jitter and this results in about 5% negative/positive acceleration at random. From my experience using flat surfaces lessens the acceleration quite a bit. I'm not really sure what the flattest kinds of mousepads would be but I'm currently using a frostpad (which is a glass mousepad similar to the icemat).


I'll make a list here of what are likely flat mousepads, starting from the flattest:
icemat/frostpad (the only issue with glass is that it degrades your mouseskates faster, you likely would need a few replacement ones)
any hardpad (I'm not fond of these at all, maybe some people would be)
artisan (the semi-hard/semi-glass ones such as the shiden)
artisan (cloth)
zowie GS-R (this mousepad is high quality & manufactured to be quite flat/durable, unlike the QCK, I am unsure if laser sensors perform any different on cloth pads though)


Another thing is that the G9x tends to jitter significantly if the sensor lens is dirty. You can test if there is any jitter by setting your G9x to the highest dpi and opening paint, switching to the pencil tool and drawing lines/circles. If it's dirty the jitter will be quite noticeable. To fix this just get a q-tip with isopropyl alcohol and rub the sensor. Usually the jitter isn't noticeable at low dpis but maybe it increases acceleration.

Lastly, the bigger shell is better than the precision one. Seriously

For some reason Logitech only now sells one fingertip mouse out of their dozens of gaming mice, and it's symmetrical (yet only has side buttons on the left so lefties can't use them anyway). Dumb... The vast majority of humans on planet earth who use a computer are fingertip mousers.