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[IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism - On Hold
« on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 17:49:05 »
Update 5/20/18
Setting a halfway firm launch date of late July for launching this. Should be a nice break from purple between now and then and be the nice break the set needs to get all the support it can.

Update 4-14-18
Due to the keyset congestion at the moment as well as delays on GMK's end, we're temporarily putting this set on hold until there's a period of fewer sets running, especially those in similar colorspaces.

Update 3-27-18
Current kit mockups can be seen at https://imgur.com/a/XoUNe
An album of renders can be found at https://imgur.com/a/6psTi


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Update 3-11-18
https://imgur.com/gallery/gdyfN
Some lovely full renders by amnesia to really get the hype flowing

Update 3-8-18
These are the mockups for the various kits at this point in time:


Base Kit


AE Mods Kit


Spacebars Kit


40% Kit


Novelties Kit - Blank keys are placeholders for wip designs

Hopefully we'll be looking to get GMK mockups and initial quotes early next week.


Update 3-1-18
Created a new IC form to focus on kit design since we had pretty outstanding colorway support
Form link - https://donutcables.com/gmk-neon-gelatin-evangelism-ic/
Backup link(mostly for mobile) - https://goo.gl/forms/G48DEmhNUjKm4uOT2
Imgur album of current kits - https://imgur.com/a/AvjfB




Nicknamed GMK "shinji, get in the ****ing robot". It's green, it's purple, and it's most likely less psychologically traumatizing than its namesake.

A collab between myself and sir amnesia0287 on the Discord, we bring you what is currently monotone AE on DY, mostly because it's a neat color combination but also because we can have a good excuse to use the available sublegends with this particular inspirational material. We will be looking to add at least AE accent keys for Esc, Enters, Spacebars, and Arrows in the future, as well as some appropriate novelty designs that I'm sure you'll enjoy. There's also a possibility of some orange accent keys, but we'll need to evaluate the price drawbacks of adding a third color to the set.

Let me know what you think. If you're going to just comment something like "ugly", maybe please add some constructive criticism so I have the chance to improve.

Turns out I forgot to post a link to the actual IC form :| Find it at https://donutcables.com/gmk-neon-gelatin-evangelism-ic/ or if you're having issues on mobile find it at https://goo.gl/forms/svhE5y7DWILk2qeo2 .

Also, I've updated the mockup to reflect some current accent key inclusions


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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 17:54:35 »
KLE is ugly, need to pay for some renders :rolleyes:

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 18:10:31 »
I mean, I'm not gonna pay for renders for the initial spitballing. Good news is I don't have to anyhow since I'm working with someone who can do some renders

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 18:12:11 »
Looks like Troubled Minds, I'm sure there will be a good amount of crossover there.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 18:35:07 »
I really like it assuming the green and the purple is correct.  Purple base color makes a lot more sense than green IMO.
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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 18:48:39 »
I think orange Esc/Enter/space accents would fit better thematically with that being 01's actual accent color, but it may invoke some Spyro.
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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 18:49:26 »
If you could do an EVA-02 version as well that would be something I'd be interested in. This colorway is really difficult to use in general, which was the weakness of the EVA Noctilucous set.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 18:52:01 »
Full purple not for me, something more in line with Troubled Minds with a more Eva theme color palet then I'm sold.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 19:08:26 »
Looks like Troubled Minds, I'm sure there will be a good amount of crossover there.

my thought as well
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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 19:12:40 »
Instead of doing AE accent keys, maybe go with an orange to mimic the 01's actual accents?  Though I guess that may invoke a Spyro look instead.

We are definitely considering orange, have already started testing it too, the problem is when you add 3 colors costs go up. Trying to figure out what the best option is. The green accents keep it cheap.

Unit 01 is actually more green than orange anyway:



That said, Evangelion isn't really the inspiration for me anyway, it's just the first thing people think of. Basically I was talking to donutcat about other sets I want cause I <3 weeb legends, and the one idea wouldnt work cause of current timing, so i suggested purple and green cause I like anything purple and donutcat likes green and the colors go well together imo.

I have also had the colors stuck in my head for a while though, and it's not from Eva, but I haven't quite pinned down what it reminds me of. My old constructicon toys were also the same colors (purple green orange) but I don't think that's it either. I think maybe it's just the horrible 90's colors in general (and it IS a standard Triadic color scheme):





Now, I don't mind leaning into the eva theme, because it is what people will recognize, but It's not a must have/ deal breaker for me. I'm pretty simple as all i use are 60/65%, so I'm not super hung up on anything, so if people have preference for certain things, certain keys, specific legends or modifiers, etc, just say so.

Full purple not for me, something more in line with Troubled Minds with a more Eva theme color palet then I'm sold.

Donutcat prefers the simpler look of mostly purple, it also helps keep costs down, my actual preference is something like this:



(Still creating keps and then ill fix alignment and then fix symbols. Also think i'd probably change the orange keys to have purple legends, i just was playing).

The question is can it be done cost effectively, is there enough interest for something so loud, etc. If there are tons of people interested in doing it, I'm all for the super loud eye melting sets. I love bright sets and there are already plenty of options for more muted things (i like those too). I mean ****, if there are enough people we could actually do custom colors and get a more saturated green :P. But I think that's wishful thinking really.

The other problem is that gets closer to troubled minds and I don't really wanna step on anyones toes. All I really care about is green weeb legends on purple alphas, ill take whatever other changes people want :P.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 19:15:55 »
Oh also, while it would be much more of a pipe dream, I think doing transparent purple with the green legends could be really cool, but custom color thus 250 moq.

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« Reply #11 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 19:42:59 »
Oh also, while it would be much more of a pipe dream, I think doing transparent purple with the green legends could be really cool, but custom color thus 250 moq.

Need pics because that sounds super dope.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 19:44:18 »
I think that I like this... I can not decide. I love the sub legends.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 20:18:12 »
Oh also, while it would be much more of a pipe dream, I think doing transparent purple with the green legends could be really cool, but custom color thus 250 moq.

Need pics because that sounds super dope.

Maybe R2 :P. I think doing a full trans set is gonna be a lot harder than other options. Gotta wait for GMK to actually produce some keys and see how they look too. I wanna see how the laser ones turn out first.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 20:33:25 »
Realized that I forgot the actual link to the IC form, like a dummy. Find it at https://donutcables.com/gmk-neon-gelatin-evangelism-ic/ or https://goo.gl/forms/svhE5y7DWILk2qeo2 if you're having issues with mobile. Also, updated mockup

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 20:48:52 »
This set is going to be dope as ****. Please make it happen cappin! Also, don't forget to add Green Spacebar Kit!

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 21:32:01 »
This set is going to be dope as ****. Please make it happen cappin! Also, don't forget to add Green Spacebar Kit!

Poking at a spacebar kit currently, as well as a 40% kit since there seems to be noticeable interest in that.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 21:43:39 »
I love the colors! Will there be a hiragana legend without the Latin option? And if so would it be possible to make an icon mod set to go with it?

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 21:46:30 »
I love the colors! Will there be a hiragana legend without the Latin option? And if so would it be possible to make an icon mod set to go with it?

Need a LOT of people interested to do hiragana set. I actually prefer hiragana myself, but I'm also totally aware that it's less popular. The hybrid set is much more likely to succeed.

Oh, and at least personally I don't really care what modifier set is used, as long as it's NOT text only. Standard, Icons Only, Custom Icons, etc are all good with me tho.
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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 22:21:54 »
I love the colors! Will there be a hiragana legend without the Latin option? And if so would it be possible to make an icon mod set to go with it?

Due to the constraints of running a set through a private vendor and the unfortunate fact that private vendors usually have difficulties moving sets with too many options, I'm opting to keep the available kit contents fairly simply. Dual legends for the alphas so they're accessible for both those that want latin and those that want hiragana. Sticking with a single mod kit, icons+text, though there is the chance of adding in more accents and some novelties to gowith the single mod set. There will be a spacebars kit for green "normal" size spacebars as well as green and purple split spacebars. I'm currently working on setting up a 40% kit for both stagger and ortho boards and I'm hoping to have a mockup available for input soon since I'm not familiar with smaller boards and will likely need to make adjustments. Finally, there'll be a blanks pack to assist in covering those hard to fill layouts, or for someone just looking to have a ballin blanks setup.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 24 February 2018, 23:51:15 »

This is the proposed 40% kit currently. I believe I've got coverage there for most 40% needs, but let me know if it needs adjusting.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 01:09:16 »
I do like the idea of a GMK Troubled Minds set

have you considered talking to thesiscamper about this?

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 01:16:54 »
It is not Troubled Minds and it will not be Troubled Minds. I don't want a copy of another set, I want it to be my own set thematically. Purple mods are here to stay and the closest we'd get to having the green mods would be an accents pack.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 01:18:03 »
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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 01:19:32 »
Well, I've already expressed my interest on the discord, but I'll say it again here. Purple and green just happen to look especially good together to me, and I'm also a fan of hirigana. Really, I think I'm just looking for an excuse to buy another purple set.
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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 06:26:42 »
Love the look of this and if we want get a greenspace as well I'm all in!

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 07:25:56 »
Keep in mind that the UK alphas with weeb sublegends don't exist yet, so those will need some molding cost paid for.

Otherwise, +1 for unicolored sets, there needs to be more of them.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 10:09:06 »
Keep in mind that the UK alphas with weeb sublegends don't exist yet, so those will need some molding cost paid for.

Otherwise, +1 for unicolored sets, there needs to be more of them.

That's fine, I'm willing to do a couple molds if it helps compatibility out now and in the future. And yes, unicolor/monotone sets are just so clean looking, especially on layouts like 75%/96key that don't have gaps, it's just continuous smooth color.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 11:37:29 »
This is what I've got for working kits currently


Base Kit


Spacebars Kit


40% Kit

Mostly looking for feedback on the 40% kit since i don't know much about the layout requirements for smaller boards.

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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 13:58:07 »
I would be down for this. Nice job!


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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 14:57:07 »
This is what I've got for working kits currently

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Base Kit

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40% Kit

Mostly looking for feedback on the 40% kit since i don't know much about the layout requirements for smaller boards.

check the 9009 40's kit

also, i don't know if vendor numbers will be good enough for a 40% kit, but i guess you'd know better than i would
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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 15:29:06 »
This is what I've got for working kits currently

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Base Kit

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Spacebars Kit

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40% Kit

Mostly looking for feedback on the 40% kit since i don't know much about the layout requirements for smaller boards.

check the 9009 40's kit

also, i don't know if vendor numbers will be good enough for a 40% kit, but i guess you'd know better than i would

That is what we used lol. There are blanks separate for planks and the space bars are in the spacebar kit, but this should provide decent coverage for most of the other boards. Even added a 1.5 enter for pearl :P.

Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 15:29:47 »
Very nice I need more purple sets! Tyvm

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 16:03:00 »
Oh also, while it would be much more of a pipe dream, I think doing transparent purple with the green legends could be really cool, but custom color thus 250 moq.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 25 February 2018, 16:36:13 »

Got this for a bit of an updated 40% kit after poking around with the 9009 kit. If we did the AE mods kit then I'd also have to dupe some of these keys so they'd also be AE.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 12:41:43 »

Proposed AE Mods Kit


Updated 40% Kit, based off the 9009 40% kit but now with added AE mods.

Let me know your thoughts on these. 40% will be whittled back down a little if the AE mods kit doesn't happen. Currently working on novelty designs after receiving design requirements from GMK.

Also let me know thoughts on the AE mods kit. More kits for neat **** is nice, but also makes a bit of a harder sale sometimes(ala Royal Alpha). Right now we're at 4 with Base, Spacebars, AE Mods, and 40%, but I've still a blanks pack in the works as well that I'm not completely sold on either. This could actually end up happening relatively soon since after Red Samurai ends there'll be a bit of a lul in GMK, and it's right after taxes for lots of people.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 12:49:53 »
I like the AE mods kit! I will be in for the base, AE and spacebars.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 13:26:24 »
I would prefer green mods, and potentially a green spacebar in the original kit if you're only doing green accents

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 16:34:08 »
I would prefer green mods, and potentially a green spacebar in the original kit if you're only doing green accents

AE spacebars in the base could happen, but I'd probably have to move the 6u spacebars to the spacebar pack instead in order to have 6.25u and 7u AE spacebars since 8 spacebars in the base kit would be way too many.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 17:06:16 »
Looking at this, you'd need both the spacebars kit and the 40% kit to actually cover a 40%
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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 17:25:07 »
Looking at this, you'd need both the spacebars kit and the 40% kit to actually cover a 40%

That’s true, but if you put them in the 40s kit, then all split spacebar users are forced to buy the more expensive 40s kit just for spacebars.

I’d argue that 40s are more niche than split space.

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« Reply #41 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 17:27:03 »
Oh also, keeping the spacebars separate means people could get extra split spacebars for other purple and Green sets.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 17:32:22 »
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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 17:39:56 »
Looking at this, you'd need both the spacebars kit and the 40% kit to actually cover a 40%

That’s true, but if you put them in the 40s kit, then all split spacebar users are forced to buy the more expensive 40s kit just for spacebars.

I’d argue that 40s are more niche than split space.
Wait, do you honestly think that? How big is the split space community? I rarely EVER see boards with split space EXCEPT for 40%s.
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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 18:33:27 »
Looking at this, you'd need both the spacebars kit and the 40% kit to actually cover a 40%

That’s true, but if you put them in the 40s kit, then all split spacebar users are forced to buy the more expensive 40s kit just for spacebars.

I’d argue that 40s are more niche than split space.
Wait, do you honestly think that? How big is the split space community? I rarely EVER see boards with split space EXCEPT for 40%s.

I'm personally an advocate of proper spacebar usage, but I have seen 60% and I think 75% boards that support split bars. An easy solution would be split spaces in both the spacebars kit and the 40% kit, but then there may be complaints due to the price increase.

Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 18:36:05 »
Yes to the AE mods kit, that's exactly what I was hoping you would possibly bring along with the set

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 18:41:58 »
100% down. i vote for either all icon mods or all text mods :3

i wouldn't say no to a purple on green set either.
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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 18:48:29 »
Would you consider adding a lime-green wasd cluster? I feel like that would look well alongside the lime green esc, spacebar, arrowkeys and enter.
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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 26 February 2018, 22:23:25 »
Hmm, AE wasd could happen, not sure though, and someone else was wanting AE vim keys, which could also maybe happen. I'll have to see if either of those looks like they're adding too much to the base kit alongside the other updates.

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Re: [IC] GMK Neon Gelatin Evangelism
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 27 February 2018, 07:53:07 »
Just saw that you're considering an AE mods kit above. I support that 100%
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