Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 02 July 2017, 15:14:50
I'm just glad that we made this happen after all these. Most people should know EVE and his capability by now, but for those who's new here, he was in charge of production of numerous custom keyboards, one of which is Mira SE run by NinjaDoc, you can find production pics in the most recent update. :p
Background aside, today's group buy is for Moon custom keyboard, if you followed our IC thread, you'd probably stunned by its sexy curves, but here we go again:
(http://imgur.com/hQeOBMs.jpg)(http://imgur.com/qd5U6dr.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/Php3G5Y.jpg)(http://imgur.com/09NZOTJ.jpg)
Prototype album: http://imgur.com/a/2yFWZ
Price:
$435+pp fee, shipping to be billed separately.
Basic kit includes:
Alu top and bottom cases;
Custom Ordered PCB;
Alu plate, stripe insert, weight;
Stainless steel or brass Logo insert, pre-installed, not removable;
Custom Ordered Box;
Upgrade and Extra
Plate:
Upgrade to brass plate (+$20)
Order extra alu plate (+$20)
Order extra brass plate (+$35)
Weight:
Upgrade to brass weight (+$30)
Order extra brass weight (+$45)
Stripes:
Upgrade to brass stripes: (+$10)
Order extra brass Stripes:(+$20)
Specifications:
Both WK and WKL layout available;
Supports ANSI and ISO enter;
Regular and stepped caps-lock supported;
TMK firmware, fully programmable PCB;
8 degree typing surface;
Timeline:
GB opens till Jul 16, 23:59 central
Payment ends on July 31, 23:59 central
Production estimated to be 8 weeks
Prototype to help with decision-making: http://imgur.com/a/2yFWZ
Order form: https://goo.gl/UnMpVu
You'll need a second google account if you are ordering two, or send me a pm I can take care of that.
Find order status here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1drU_63J-pareTCKEeq2Ydo95LmoTud6rCTdXpYOYxQI/edit#gid=1582473866
Special thanks to stand.geek and gaiden for logo and weight design, they will either receive $200 cash reward, or 50% off on their first moon board order.
Also thank you to all who participated, each of you guys will receive a surprise cap made by EVE. More details to be released regarding the cap.
Last but not least thank all who supported Moon during its hardest time regardless entering the GB or not.
Together we make Democratic Republic of Moon GREAT :thumb:
Post by: neralo on Sun, 02 July 2017, 18:49:26
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Post by: Gajible on Sun, 02 July 2017, 18:59:33
I'd like the purple to match GMK's as much as possible. The ZZ96 purple didn't match enough for me and I ended up selling it. I don't want to have a repeat experience! It looks like the Blue Magenta might be the nearest match but I'm not sure... help! :-\
(http://i.imgur.com/v76u5Fa.jpg)
Post by: Blazestorm on Sun, 02 July 2017, 19:00:01
Thanks :D
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 02 July 2017, 19:01:33
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 02 July 2017, 19:13:09
What's the schedule going to be? i.e. How long is the GB open for, when are payments expected, when should we expect to receive them?
Thanks :D
GB opens till Jul 16, 23:59 central
Payment ends on July 31, 23:59 central
Production estimated to be 8 weeks
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 02 July 2017, 19:16:21
Do you have the samples on hand? I'm worried about which purple to choose.
I'd like the purple to match GMK's as much as possible. The ZZ96 purple didn't match enough for me and I ended up selling it. I don't want to have a repeat experience! It looks like the Blue Magenta might be the nearest match but I'm not sure... help! :-\Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/v76u5Fa.jpg)
I don't think blue magenta will be the closest match tho. I don't have plum on hand but I think light purple will be closer.
Sorry if I couldn't be more helpful
Post by: swangful on Sun, 02 July 2017, 19:27:37
Post by: gaiden on Sun, 02 July 2017, 19:39:19
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Post by: Gajible on Sun, 02 July 2017, 19:49:48
Post by: neralo on Sun, 02 July 2017, 19:57:50
What's the schedule going to be? i.e. How long is the GB open for, when are payments expected, when should we expect to receive them?
Thanks :D
GB opens till Jul 16, 23:59 central
Payment ends on July 31, 23:59 central
Production estimated to be 8 weeks
Would you happen to have shipping estimates for different regions? Just ball park figures will do, doing some math to see if its financially responsible for me to jump in :p
Post by: Tally810 on Sun, 02 July 2017, 20:00:05
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Post by: superdoedoe on Sun, 02 July 2017, 20:00:10
Assume ~$50What's the schedule going to be? i.e. How long is the GB open for, when are payments expected, when should we expect to receive them?
Thanks :D
GB opens till Jul 16, 23:59 central
Payment ends on July 31, 23:59 central
Production estimated to be 8 weeks
Would you happen to have shipping estimates for different regions? Just ball park figures will do, doing some math to see if its financially responsible for me to jump in :p
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 02 July 2017, 20:04:24
What's the schedule going to be? i.e. How long is the GB open for, when are payments expected, when should we expect to receive them?
Thanks :D
GB opens till Jul 16, 23:59 central
Payment ends on July 31, 23:59 central
Production estimated to be 8 weeks
Would you happen to have shipping estimates for different regions? Just ball park figures will do, doing some math to see if its financially responsible for me to jump in :p
For US buyers it will be ~$50, if you are in Singapore, it will be cheaper for ~$35
Post by: neralo on Sun, 02 July 2017, 20:05:46
What's the schedule going to be? i.e. How long is the GB open for, when are payments expected, when should we expect to receive them?
Thanks :D
GB opens till Jul 16, 23:59 central
Payment ends on July 31, 23:59 central
Production estimated to be 8 weeks
Would you happen to have shipping estimates for different regions? Just ball park figures will do, doing some math to see if its financially responsible for me to jump in :p
For US buyers it will be ~$50, if you are in Singapore, it will be cheaper for ~$35
welp yet another reason for me to get in on this :) Thanks, this has really been a long time coming.
Post by: FioraCorp on Sun, 02 July 2017, 20:32:31
Post by: Tally810 on Sun, 02 July 2017, 20:47:44
Woot woot the moon rebooted! Question: will we have the option to get an extra pcb?Yea it's on the form :>
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Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 02 July 2017, 21:01:09
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sun, 02 July 2017, 21:19:55
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 02 July 2017, 22:55:09
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 02 July 2017, 22:58:23
Post by: Arokai on Sun, 02 July 2017, 23:11:24
the logo is not removable?
I would also like to know this. Love the board but not a big fan of the rear logo
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 02 July 2017, 23:16:32
Basic kit includes:
Alu top and bottom cases;
Custom Ordered PCB;
Alu plate, stripe insert, weight;
Stainless steel or brass Logo insert, pre-installed, not removable;
Custom Ordered Box;
I'm assuming what you guys are actually asking is can it be purchased with no logo machined at all? Like no CNC in that spot?
Post by: 19820815 on Mon, 03 July 2017, 03:35:33
happy to see her(moon) again
Post by: rioc on Mon, 03 July 2017, 03:54:16
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Post by: stand.geek on Mon, 03 July 2017, 08:04:49
Btw, any word about how heavy this thing is?
Post by: Arokai on Mon, 03 July 2017, 10:06:56
Basic kit includes:
Alu top and bottom cases;
Custom Ordered PCB;
Alu plate, stripe insert, weight;
Stainless steel or brass Logo insert, pre-installed, not removable;
Custom Ordered Box;
I'm assuming what you guys are actually asking is can it be purchased with no logo machined at all? Like no CNC in that spot?
Right! thanks for clarifying for me.
Is it possible to get the board without the 'MOON' logo CNC'd in the back?
is the stainless logo the same color as the top of the board so it matches enough to not be noticeable?
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 03 July 2017, 10:09:31
What the angle on this?Typing surface is 8 degrees. Also updated in thread. Thanks
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 03 July 2017, 10:15:35
If I'm not ordering an aluminum plate, what do I still have to pick a anodizing plate color?Update the form accordingly, added I want to upgrade to brass plate option. Thanks for pointing this out!
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Post by: lanyusea on Mon, 03 July 2017, 10:40:18
are they the two plates near the logo?
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 03 July 2017, 10:40:48
a quick question: where are the stripes?yes
are they the two plates near the logo?
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Post by: pon10 on Mon, 03 July 2017, 11:12:13
Will you guys ship as declared or gift? :)
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 03 July 2017, 11:21:32
1) How are the "non-removable" parts secured
2) Do you have any irl samples of the light purple?
:)
Post by: Gajible on Mon, 03 July 2017, 11:47:56
Two questions:
1) How are the "non-removable" parts secured
2) Do you have any irl samples of the light purple?
:)
I second this for light purple. I'm worried of ending up with pink again!
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 03 July 2017, 16:20:00
Two questions:
1) How are the "non-removable" parts secured
2) Do you have any irl samples of the light purple?
:)Two questions:
1) How are the "non-removable" parts secured
2) Do you have any irl samples of the light purple?
:)
I second this for light purple. I'm worried of ending up with pink again!
Not sure if you guys have seen these but here are some pics of prototype under natural lighting: http://imgur.com/a/2yFWZ
Btw, the logo is a tight fit design, it will be hammered in and glued from the back
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 03 July 2017, 16:26:56
Basic kit includes:
Alu top and bottom cases;
Custom Ordered PCB;
Alu plate, stripe insert, weight;
Stainless steel or brass Logo insert, pre-installed, not removable;
Custom Ordered Box;Is there any more specific detail posted about the PCB anywhere? Like does it support any sort of LEDs? Does it support TMK/QMK? etc...Is there more info on the PCB, cant remember from the old old thread
Will you guys ship as declared or gift? :)
I don't know enough about the PCB, I'll ask the PCB guy and get back to you guys
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 03 July 2017, 16:28:07
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 03 July 2017, 16:30:19
i think we will need some details on how the "non-removable" logo is secured - i would like to modify the metal pieces, but need to decide what type i would select first
Answered above, not sure what kind of modification you need to do, but once it's in it's in..
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 03 July 2017, 16:50:30
Two questions:
1) How are the "non-removable" parts secured
2) Do you have any irl samples of the light purple?
:)Two questions:
1) How are the "non-removable" parts secured
2) Do you have any irl samples of the light purple?
:)
I second this for light purple. I'm worried of ending up with pink again!
Not sure if you guys have seen these but here are some pics of prototype under natural lighting: http://imgur.com/a/2yFWZ
Btw, the logo is a tight fit design, it will be hammered in and glued from the back
Thanks for the info! Missed the light purple in that album !
Post by: poolside on Mon, 03 July 2017, 16:57:19
Post by: pon10 on Mon, 03 July 2017, 16:57:30
Quote
I don't know enough about the PCB, I'll ask the PCB guy and get back to you guys
Thanks!
Post by: poolside on Mon, 03 July 2017, 17:01:29
Quote
I don't know enough about the PCB, I'll ask the PCB guy and get back to you guys
Thanks!
Oh, I missed that, thanks.
Post by: Sylanthra on Mon, 03 July 2017, 18:58:57
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 03 July 2017, 19:13:23
Post by: Arallu on Mon, 03 July 2017, 19:38:39
Any chance of adding an optional diffuse? Perhaps one that only covers the front and the sides?
I don't think design changes like that are going to happen during the GB, not to mention if the PCB even supports underglow LEDs, but I could be wrong.
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 03 July 2017, 22:33:13
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 04 July 2017, 00:17:30
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 04 July 2017, 09:05:02
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 04 July 2017, 21:12:10
And if you haven't noticed, as I didn't specify, weight design is changed back to cut outs. Thanks!
Post by: swangful on Tue, 04 July 2017, 22:07:53
Post by: neralo on Tue, 04 July 2017, 22:12:18
Just curious, whats the point of having an EXTRA pcb? Isn't one enough? :D
you have one more to fill with different switches so you can swap switches on the same case. though you also need an extra plate.
Post by: Krytone on Tue, 04 July 2017, 22:15:13
would it be possible to ship the board with the MOON logo not glued in? i only want the stripes placed in but not the MOON logo. Please advise. Thanks!There isnt any comment section in the form for this request. Would this be possible?
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 04 July 2017, 22:21:22
would it be possible to ship the board with the MOON logo not glued in? i only want the stripes placed in but not the MOON logo. Please advise. Thanks!There isnt any comment section in the form for this request. Would this be possible?
Generally I take special request by PM, otherwise people put ANY request they have..
edit: and yes to your previous request, it can be shipped with un-installed logo
Post by: Arallu on Tue, 04 July 2017, 22:32:46
Post by: swangful on Wed, 05 July 2017, 01:26:00
Just curious, whats the point of having an EXTRA pcb? Isn't one enough? :D
you have one more to fill with different switches so you can swap switches on the same case. though you also need an extra plate.
Thank you :) That explains it perfectly!
Post by: lishi on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:24:48
Post by: swangful on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:58:30
Don't know if I'm blind, but where's the USB port on this thing? :p
The previous GB had an image stating it would be at the top right of the keyboard.
Assuming things haven't changed...it will be where the pink arrow is (bottom left of picture) :D
(http://imgur.com/EET9Jl1.jpg)
Post by: HorrorStorm on Wed, 05 July 2017, 18:57:55
Post by: Philrulesworld on Wed, 05 July 2017, 22:09:23
Post by: Broadwell on Thu, 06 July 2017, 05:21:03
Would I be able to see a comparison between the stainless/brass logo. Also, how about renders with the brass plate, brass weights, brass stripes? Also, is there an option for extra PCB?I'll see if EVE can make a render with brass parts. He's probably asleep by now (23:34 in China)
Wondering about the status on this
Post by: zzyjayfree on Thu, 06 July 2017, 10:54:29
zzyjayfree, did you get a response back yet regarding more information about the PCB? LEDs, TMK/QMK, etc?
I wish I know more about PCBs.. So far what I collect is it supports WS2812 LED and you can program it by using tkg.io, so that is TMK if I'm not mistaken.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Thu, 06 July 2017, 11:06:09
Don't know if I'm blind, but where's the USB port on this thing? :p
Please reference to swangful's response.
Is the silver top/bottom plate not an option? Like the GB image.
Option like the GB image is available if you choose titanium grey. Sorry maybe the render was too good :p
If shipping is being billed separately, will that invoice come through before July 31 as well, or will that be later?
It will only be billed when I have final products as it varies based on weight of the board, package and the final volume.
Would I be able to see a comparison between the stainless/brass logo. Also, how about renders with the brass plate, brass weights, brass stripes? Also, is there an option for extra PCB?I'll see if EVE can make a render with brass parts. He's probably asleep by now (23:34 in China)
Wondering about the status on this
Sorry still pending, but I think this is very close to what you ask for. http://imgur.com/ooBr9Bi
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 06 July 2017, 11:24:57
Post by: zzyjayfree on Thu, 06 July 2017, 11:36:38
Are the PCBs compatible with other standard TKLs? If yes, can I buy one or two PCBs separately (without joining for a Moon)? I don't think I have the necessary pocket change to join the buy, but being able to buy a TMK/QMK compatible PCB that fits my TX87 would help me out a whole bunch
I think you'd want to get some leeku PCBs as I can't guarantee Moon PCB's compatibility with TX87
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 06 July 2017, 11:55:43
Are the PCBs compatible with other standard TKLs? If yes, can I buy one or two PCBs separately (without joining for a Moon)? I don't think I have the necessary pocket change to join the buy, but being able to buy a TMK/QMK compatible PCB that fits my TX87 would help me out a whole bunch
I think you'd want to get some leeku PCBs as I can't guarantee Moon PCB's compatibility with TX87
No, that's exactly not what I want. I want a PCB that is compatible with TMK/QMK on a native basis, which seems to be the case with these. Could you ask the PCB guy if they might fit?
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 06 July 2017, 14:03:57
Will the brass parts be PVD coated or otherwise treated to prevent tarnishing?
If picking a stainless steel logo, will the color match the bottom case?
Thanks!
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 07 July 2017, 01:05:12
Two ways of getting two plates:
(1) Select an aluminum plate color (+$0), select an EXTRA Brass plate (+$35). = +$35
(2) Select "Upgrade to Brass", select OTHER and ask for Upgrade to Brass (+$20) and an EXTRA Aluminum plate (+$20). = +$40
There's an difference of $5 depending on how one fills the form. I think you should revise this to Option (1) and double-check all orders requesting a Brass plate AND an Aluminum plate.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Fri, 07 July 2017, 09:50:29
zzjayfree. I just updated my order. I wanted to point out an inconsistency in the cost.
Two ways of getting two plates:
(1) Select an aluminum plate color (+$0), select an EXTRA Brass plate (+$35). = +$35
(2) Select "Upgrade to Brass", select OTHER and ask for Upgrade to Brass (+$20) and an EXTRA Aluminum plate (+$20). = +$40
There's an difference of $5 depending on how one fills the form. I think you should revise this to Option (1) and double-check all orders requesting a Brass plate AND an Aluminum plate.
That's a good one. Lowered extra alu plate by $5, it's $15 now. The cost is the same. Some small good news for people going for extra alu plate I guess.
Thank you for your sharp eyes.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Fri, 07 July 2017, 11:14:38
A few questions before I finalize my order:
Will the brass parts be PVD coated or otherwise treated to prevent tarnishing?
If picking a stainless steel logo, will the color match the bottom case?
Thanks!
Stainless steel will just be it's own color. As for brass treatment, EVE can do that, the only problem is not everyone likes it, some actually like it to be tarnished :-\ :-\ :-\
Post by: metalliccharles on Fri, 07 July 2017, 12:24:48
A few questions before I finalize my order:
Will the brass parts be PVD coated or otherwise treated to prevent tarnishing?
If picking a stainless steel logo, will the color match the bottom case?
Thanks!
Stainless steel will just be it's own color. As for brass treatment, EVE can do that, the only problem is not everyone likes it, some actually like it to be tarnished :-\ :-\ :-\
Should we leave that as a note in our order? I'd like mine to stay shiny AF :cool:
Post by: swangful on Fri, 07 July 2017, 12:46:29
A few questions before I finalize my order:
Will the brass parts be PVD coated or otherwise treated to prevent tarnishing?
If picking a stainless steel logo, will the color match the bottom case?
Thanks!
Stainless steel will just be it's own color. As for brass treatment, EVE can do that, the only problem is not everyone likes it, some actually like it to be tarnished :-\ :-\ :-\
Should we leave that as a note in our order? I'd like mine to stay shiny AF :cool:
Same +1
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Fri, 07 July 2017, 12:48:29
Sorry if im misunderstanding this, but does being 'its own color' mean that the only option for stainless steel color is silver?A few questions before I finalize my order:
Will the brass parts be PVD coated or otherwise treated to prevent tarnishing?
If picking a stainless steel logo, will the color match the bottom case?
Thanks!
Stainless steel will just be it's own color. As for brass treatment, EVE can do that, the only problem is not everyone likes it, some actually like it to be tarnished :-\ :-\ :-\
Post by: zzyjayfree on Fri, 07 July 2017, 12:49:36
Sorry if im misunderstanding this, but does being 'its own color' mean that the only option for stainless steel color is silver?A few questions before I finalize my order:
Will the brass parts be PVD coated or otherwise treated to prevent tarnishing?
If picking a stainless steel logo, will the color match the bottom case?
Thanks!
Yes it will be polished stainless steel, its own steel color
Stainless steel will just be it's own color. As for brass treatment, EVE can do that, the only problem is not everyone likes it, some actually like it to be tarnished :-\ :-\ :-\
Post by: zzyjayfree on Fri, 07 July 2017, 12:50:52
A few questions before I finalize my order:
Will the brass parts be PVD coated or otherwise treated to prevent tarnishing?
If picking a stainless steel logo, will the color match the bottom case?
Thanks!
Stainless steel will just be it's own color. As for brass treatment, EVE can do that, the only problem is not everyone likes it, some actually like it to be tarnished :-\ :-\ :-\
Should we leave that as a note in our order? I'd like mine to stay shiny AF :cool:
Same +1
A few questions before I finalize my order:
Will the brass parts be PVD coated or otherwise treated to prevent tarnishing?
If picking a stainless steel logo, will the color match the bottom case?
Thanks!
Stainless steel will just be it's own color. As for brass treatment, EVE can do that, the only problem is not everyone likes it, some actually like it to be tarnished :-\ :-\ :-\
Should we leave that as a note in our order? I'd like mine to stay shiny AF :cool:
I'll update form and send notice to whoever has placed the order by email, check form in like 5 mins
Post by: swangful on Fri, 07 July 2017, 13:32:59
Excellent.
Post by: rioc on Fri, 07 July 2017, 14:46:48
A few questions before I finalize my order:
Will the brass parts be PVD coated or otherwise treated to prevent tarnishing?
If picking a stainless steel logo, will the color match the bottom case?
Thanks!
Stainless steel will just be it's own color. As for brass treatment, EVE can do that, the only problem is not everyone likes it, some actually like it to be tarnished :-\ :-\ :-\
Should we leave that as a note in our order? I'd like mine to stay shiny AF 8)
Same +1A few questions before I finalize my order:
Will the brass parts be PVD coated or otherwise treated to prevent tarnishing?
If picking a stainless steel logo, will the color match the bottom case?
Thanks!
Stainless steel will just be it's own color. As for brass treatment, EVE can do that, the only problem is not everyone likes it, some actually like it to be tarnished :-\ :-\ :-\
Should we leave that as a note in our order? I'd like mine to stay shiny AF 8)
I'll update form and send notice to whoever has placed the order by email, check form in like 5 mins
oh, that's sweet having this option... activated it too for me, don't want my moon logo to turn brown ;)
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 07 July 2017, 15:12:26
A few questions before I finalize my order:
Will the brass parts be PVD coated or otherwise treated to prevent tarnishing?
If picking a stainless steel logo, will the color match the bottom case?
Thanks!
Stainless steel will just be it's own color. As for brass treatment, EVE can do that, the only problem is not everyone likes it, some actually like it to be tarnished :-\ :-\ :-\
Should we leave that as a note in our order? I'd like mine to stay shiny AF :cool:
Same +1A few questions before I finalize my order:
Will the brass parts be PVD coated or otherwise treated to prevent tarnishing?
If picking a stainless steel logo, will the color match the bottom case?
Thanks!
Stainless steel will just be it's own color. As for brass treatment, EVE can do that, the only problem is not everyone likes it, some actually like it to be tarnished :-\ :-\ :-\
Should we leave that as a note in our order? I'd like mine to stay shiny AF :cool:
I'll update form and send notice to whoever has placed the order by email, check form in like 5 mins
Cool! Thanks for adding this option. I updated my order.
Post by: JDragon on Fri, 07 July 2017, 16:57:24
Is Champagne Gold the closest approximation to the brass color?
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 07 July 2017, 17:12:43
Post by: zzyjayfree on Fri, 07 July 2017, 22:50:12
Thanks for adding that option, order placed. :thumb:
Is Champagne Gold the closest approximation to the brass color?
In this GB yes. Are you gonna go champagne gold plus brass parts? :eek: :eek:
I didn't think I would enter this GB. Since the colors are no longer set to specific combos... and the more I look at it... and the fact I am backing out of another GB... and those curves... :eek:
Welcome back, fam!
Post by: pon10 on Sat, 08 July 2017, 03:11:32
I know this was asked before, but could it possible before the end of the GB to see color blocks so we can mix and match, i just feel when this board its gonna be finished it gonna be a kb that's gonna run up in price, properly around 600-700 USD with shipping and switches etc :P
I just wanna make sure i am not gonna be bumped down if my color choice is not matching :confused:
hope you understand
Post by: SpareWalrus on Sat, 08 July 2017, 09:28:11
Hey zzyjayfree
I know this was asked before, but could it possible before the end of the GB to see color blocks so we can mix and match, i just feel when this board its gonna be finished it gonna be a kb that's gonna run up in price, properly around 600-700 USD with shipping and switches etc :P
I just wanna make sure i am not gonna be bumped down if my color choice is not matching :confused:
hope you understand
Are there not colour blocks in the order form?
Post by: Arokai on Sat, 08 July 2017, 10:19:37
Hey zzyjayfree
I know this was asked before, but could it possible before the end of the GB to see color blocks so we can mix and match, i just feel when this board its gonna be finished it gonna be a kb that's gonna run up in price, properly around 600-700 USD with shipping and switches etc :P
I just wanna make sure i am not gonna be bumped down if my color choice is not matching :confused:
hope you understand
Are there not colour blocks in the order form?
I think he meant seeing all the colors in one photo not in board form but a sample size, so we can see how different colors look next to one another and in similar lighting. The only sample I see of the starry night is the plate which you can hardly see.
I would like to be able to see titanium gray and starry night next to each other to have a clear picture
Post by: SpareWalrus on Sat, 08 July 2017, 10:22:50
Hey zzyjayfree
I know this was asked before, but could it possible before the end of the GB to see color blocks so we can mix and match, i just feel when this board its gonna be finished it gonna be a kb that's gonna run up in price, properly around 600-700 USD with shipping and switches etc :P
I just wanna make sure i am not gonna be bumped down if my color choice is not matching :confused:
hope you understand
Are there not colour blocks in the order form?
I think he meant seeing all the colors in one photo not in board form but a sample size, so we can see how different colors look next to one another and in similar lighting. The only sample I see of the starry night is the plate which you can hardly see.
I would like to be able to see titanium gray and starry night next to each other to have a clear picture
Gotcha, that’s fair. I’d also like to see that colour combination. I’m so torn on colours right now.
Post by: stand.geek on Sat, 08 July 2017, 10:55:50
Hey zzyjayfree
I know this was asked before, but could it possible before the end of the GB to see color blocks so we can mix and match, i just feel when this board its gonna be finished it gonna be a kb that's gonna run up in price, properly around 600-700 USD with shipping and switches etc :P
I just wanna make sure i am not gonna be bumped down if my color choice is not matching :confused:
hope you understand
Are there not colour blocks in the order form?
I think he meant seeing all the colors in one photo not in board form but a sample size, so we can see how different colors look next to one another and in similar lighting. The only sample I see of the starry night is the plate which you can hardly see.
I would like to be able to see titanium gray and starry night next to each other to have a clear picture
Gotcha, that’s fair. I’d also like to see that colour combination. I’m so torn on colours right now.
Same with me. too confused to decide a color.
That's the main reason I haven't fill the form yet. :confused:
Post by: pon10 on Sat, 08 July 2017, 12:18:22
Hey zzyjayfree
I know this was asked before, but could it possible before the end of the GB to see color blocks so we can mix and match, i just feel when this board its gonna be finished it gonna be a kb that's gonna run up in price, properly around 600-700 USD with shipping and switches etc :P
I just wanna make sure i am not gonna be bumped down if my color choice is not matching :confused:
hope you understand
Are there not colour blocks in the order form?
I think he meant seeing all the colors in one photo not in board form but a sample size, so we can see how different colors look next to one another and in similar lighting. The only sample I see of the starry night is the plate which you can hardly see.
I would like to be able to see titanium gray and starry night next to each other to have a clear picture
Yes correct! :) i dont think i will go ahead with this buy if its not possible to see colors correctly since the price this will run up too! i am sure colors will have a good outcome but for my own justification i have to be sure haha
Post by: directheatedtriode on Sat, 08 July 2017, 18:31:14
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 09 July 2017, 22:23:19
I think he meant seeing all the colors in one photo not in board form but a sample size, so we can see how different colors look next to one another and in similar lighting. The only sample I see of the starry night is the plate which you can hardly see.
I would like to be able to see titanium gray and starry night next to each other to have a clear picture
Gotcha, that’s fair. I’d also like to see that colour combination. I’m so torn on colours right now.
Same with me. too confused to decide a color.
That's the main reason I haven't fill the form yet. :confused:
Here are pics for starry night and titanium grey in comparison
Starry night grey:
(http://imgur.com/3cYFxPg.jpg)
Titanium grey:
(http://imgur.com/47CueNh.jpg)
Comparison: starry night grey on top, titanium grey under
(http://imgur.com/8YSY82r.jpg)
Yes correct! :) i dont think i will go ahead with this buy if its not possible to see colors correctly since the price this will run up too! i am sure colors will have a good outcome but for my own justification i have to be sure haha
Sorry EVE didn't have all the color samples made, if you are torn between a few colors I can always ask for specific pics.
Post by: neralo on Sun, 09 July 2017, 22:50:55
Comparison: starry night grey on top, titanium grey underShow Image(http://imgur.com/8YSY82r.jpg)
Is that a light grey case on the bottom right corner?
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 09 July 2017, 22:52:29
Is that a light grey case on the bottom right corner?
It indeed is
Post by: neralo on Sun, 09 July 2017, 22:53:28
Is that a light grey case on the bottom right corner?
It indeed is
That is perfect, exactly the colour I wanted!
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Post by: SpareWalrus on Mon, 10 July 2017, 00:32:41
I think he meant seeing all the colors in one photo not in board form but a sample size, so we can see how different colors look next to one another and in similar lighting. The only sample I see of the starry night is the plate which you can hardly see.
I would like to be able to see titanium gray and starry night next to each other to have a clear pictureGotcha, that’s fair. I’d also like to see that colour combination. I’m so torn on colours right now.Same with me. too confused to decide a color.
That's the main reason I haven't fill the form yet. :confused:
Here are pics for starry night and titanium grey in comparison
Starry night grey:Show Image(http://imgur.com/3cYFxPg.jpg)
Titanium grey:Show Image(http://imgur.com/47CueNh.jpg)
Comparison: starry night grey on top, titanium grey underShow Image(http://imgur.com/8YSY82r.jpg)Yes correct! :) i dont think i will go ahead with this buy if its not possible to see colors correctly since the price this will run up too! i am sure colors will have a good outcome but for my own justification i have to be sure haha
Sorry EVE didn't have all the color samples made, if you are torn between a few colors I can always ask for specific pics.
Thanks for the pics, that definitely changes things. Really like the two colours, but not together as I was planning. Decisions. Decisions.
Post by: Broadwell on Mon, 10 July 2017, 11:27:33
Post by: pon10 on Mon, 10 July 2017, 11:53:16
I think he meant seeing all the colors in one photo not in board form but a sample size, so we can see how different colors look next to one another and in similar lighting. The only sample I see of the starry night is the plate which you can hardly see.
I would like to be able to see titanium gray and starry night next to each other to have a clear pictureGotcha, that’s fair. I’d also like to see that colour combination. I’m so torn on colours right now.Same with me. too confused to decide a color.
That's the main reason I haven't fill the form yet. :confused:
Here are pics for starry night and titanium grey in comparison
Starry night grey:Show Image(http://imgur.com/3cYFxPg.jpg)
Titanium grey:Show Image(http://imgur.com/47CueNh.jpg)
Comparison: starry night grey on top, titanium grey underShow Image(http://imgur.com/8YSY82r.jpg)Yes correct! :) i dont think i will go ahead with this buy if its not possible to see colors correctly since the price this will run up too! i am sure colors will have a good outcome but for my own justification i have to be sure haha
Sorry EVE didn't have all the color samples made, if you are torn between a few colors I can always ask for specific pics.
Thanks for listening! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: so good to see how it can end up :)
Edit: Whats the plate color shown on the starry night grey on top, titanium grey under?
Post by: JDragon on Mon, 10 July 2017, 13:37:17
Thanks for adding that option, order placed. :thumb:
Is Champagne Gold the closest approximation to the brass color?
In this GB yes. Are you gonna go champagne gold plus brass parts? :eek: :eek:
Haha that might be too blingy even for me. Black top + champagne gold bottom + brass parts is my order, hoping it will look like the prototype. :)
Post by: rioc on Mon, 10 July 2017, 14:51:41
Is that a light grey case on the bottom right corner?
It indeed is
hell yeah, I made the right choice then :)
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 10 July 2017, 15:42:33
Ahh I am so close to sending in the form, can I see the stainless steel logo next to the brass logo just so I can decide on that?
Unfortunately, we don't have a brass logo yet as we just decided to add the brass logo option. But generally speaking, you want to use brass logo for classic, darker case like starry night grey or ink black, use SS logo for more vivid colors like violet purple. I would always recommend make contract between parts. Eg: if you want to pair your carbon set, you might want to pick ink black top, with brass logo and stripes, Carbon orange bottom and then a dark weight.
Personal opinion, hope it helps.
Post by: Arokai on Mon, 10 July 2017, 20:13:12
And can you also make a note on my order to remove the moon logo in the rear part of the board (where the two stripes are).
Thanks
Post by: Broadwell on Tue, 11 July 2017, 07:22:40
Ahh I am so close to sending in the form, can I see the stainless steel logo next to the brass logo just so I can decide on that?
Unfortunately, we don't have a brass logo yet as we just decided to add the brass logo option. But generally speaking, you want to use brass logo for classic, darker case like starry night grey or ink black, use SS logo for more vivid colors like violet purple. I would always recommend make contract between parts. Eg: if you want to pair your carbon set, you might want to pick ink black top, with brass logo and stripes, Carbon orange bottom and then a dark weight.
Personal opinion, hope it helps.
Actually it helps a lot, thanks! I am going for the carbon build to match my SA carbon that come soon (2018), so I think I will take your advice and go for brass logo
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 11 July 2017, 10:54:05
Ahh I am so close to sending in the form, can I see the stainless steel logo next to the brass logo just so I can decide on that?
Unfortunately, we don't have a brass logo yet as we just decided to add the brass logo option. But generally speaking, you want to use brass logo for classic, darker case like starry night grey or ink black, use SS logo for more vivid colors like violet purple. I would always recommend make contract between parts. Eg: if you want to pair your carbon set, you might want to pick ink black top, with brass logo and stripes, Carbon orange bottom and then a dark weight.
Personal opinion, hope it helps.
Actually it helps a lot, thanks! I am going for the carbon build to match my SA carbon that come soon (2018), so I think I will take your advice and go for brass logo
That's what I ended up doing. I had planned on doing my own color scheme, but the more I looked at the carbon color scheme the more it grew on me. It also helped having a ton of pictures of it. The only bad thing is that it forced me to spend $230 on SA Carbon, which I hadn't planned on buying. In the end, this keyboard is going to be almost $900 (switches and caps included)!
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 11 July 2017, 10:58:38
That's what I ended up doing. I had planned on doing my own color scheme, but the more I looked at the carbon color scheme the more it grew on me. It also helped having a ton of pictures of it. The only bad thing is that it forced me to spend $230 on SA Carbon, which I hadn't planned on buying. In the end, this keyboard is going to be almost $900 (switches and caps included)!
Are you trying to scare away some new peeps? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Just kidding.
I'm worse than you, now I want a matching desktop color for it. It's probably gonna cost me $2000 . So board+switches+caps+desktop+new monitor for the desktop, the board is gonna cost me $3000 :eek: :eek: :eek:
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 11 July 2017, 13:34:51
That's what I ended up doing. I had planned on doing my own color scheme, but the more I looked at the carbon color scheme the more it grew on me. It also helped having a ton of pictures of it. The only bad thing is that it forced me to spend $230 on SA Carbon, which I hadn't planned on buying. In the end, this keyboard is going to be almost $900 (switches and caps included)!
Are you trying to scare away some new peeps? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Just kidding.
I'm worse than you, now I want a matching desktop color for it. It's probably gonna cost me $2000 . So board+switches+caps+desktop+new monitor for the desktop, the board is gonna cost me $3000 :eek: :eek: :eek:
Ha, you beat me. I accept defeat! That will look really rad though. Definitely share your setup when/if you finally get all of that assembled!
Post by: Gajible on Tue, 11 July 2017, 13:54:50
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 11 July 2017, 17:00:09
Hey, I edited my response. Should I PM you about it?
It will be updated automatically. But I'll double check.
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 11 July 2017, 17:01:12
That's what I ended up doing. I had planned on doing my own color scheme, but the more I looked at the carbon color scheme the more it grew on me. It also helped having a ton of pictures of it. The only bad thing is that it forced me to spend $230 on SA Carbon, which I hadn't planned on buying. In the end, this keyboard is going to be almost $900 (switches and caps included)!
Are you trying to scare away some new peeps? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Just kidding.
I'm worse than you, now I want a matching desktop color for it. It's probably gonna cost me $2000 . So board+switches+caps+desktop+new monitor for the desktop, the board is gonna cost me $3000 :eek: :eek: :eek:
Ha, you beat me. I accept defeat! That will look really rad though. Definitely share your setup when/if you finally get all of that assembled!
First step, get funds..
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Post by: pon10 on Wed, 12 July 2017, 04:15:01
Where will the board be shipped from?
Post by: neralo on Wed, 12 July 2017, 05:49:16
Hey Jay.
Where will the board be shipped from?
Since shipping to Asia is cheaper, I'm guessing it's gonna ship from China
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 12 July 2017, 16:14:25
Hey Jay.
Where will the board be shipped from?
It will be manufactured in and shipped from China
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 12 July 2017, 17:41:19
Hey Jay.
Where will the board be shipped from?
It will be manufactured in and shipped from China
Thanks mate
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 12 July 2017, 22:56:43
Hey Jay.
Where will the board be shipped from?
It will be manufactured in and shipped from China
Does anyone have any info for how this works in regard to US Customs (or is there a general thread about this)? I've never "imported" anything like this before.
Thanks mate
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 12 July 2017, 23:05:59
Does anyone have any info for how this works in regard to US Customs (or is there a general thread about this)? I've never "imported" anything like this before.
Thanks mate
US custom is pretty generous for importing, at least compact to EU custom, they normally let go stuff declared under $100 freely, which I did several times already.
And that's what I'm planning to do for Moon GB, unless buyer requests otherwise
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Post by: pon10 on Thu, 13 July 2017, 15:23:14
Does anyone have any info for how this works in regard to US Customs (or is there a general thread about this)? I've never "imported" anything like this before.
Thanks mate
US custom is pretty generous for importing, at least compact to EU custom, they normally let go stuff declared under $100 freely, which I did several times already.
And that's what I'm planning to do for Moon GB, unless buyer requests otherwise
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So meaning it will be shipped from china declared as 99-100 USD? :)
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Thu, 13 July 2017, 15:36:22
Post by: rioc on Thu, 13 July 2017, 15:46:52
Does anyone have any info for how this works in regard to US Customs (or is there a general thread about this)? I've never "imported" anything like this before.
Thanks mate
US custom is pretty generous for importing, at least compact to EU custom, they normally let go stuff declared under $100 freely, which I did several times already.
And that's what I'm planning to do for Moon GB, unless buyer requests otherwise
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yeah, here in EU (Switzerland) stuff declared above 60$ gets about 30$ import tax slapped on it
Post by: metalliccharles on Thu, 13 July 2017, 15:59:49
(http://i.imgur.com/i2P05Fq.png)
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 13 July 2017, 19:03:55
Does anyone have any info for how this works in regard to US Customs (or is there a general thread about this)? I've never "imported" anything like this before.
Thanks mate
US custom is pretty generous for importing, at least compact to EU custom, they normally let go stuff declared under $100 freely, which I did several times already.
And that's what I'm planning to do for Moon GB, unless buyer requests otherwise
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yeah, here in EU (Switzerland) stuff declared above 60$ gets about 30$ import tax slapped on it
My question is more about how that is handled. Is the product held hostage until I pay the tax, or do I receive a bill later? In either event, how am I contacted, or how do I know if it is being held by customs?
Post by: lanyusea on Thu, 13 July 2017, 23:49:46
Post by: pon10 on Fri, 14 July 2017, 00:35:16
Does anyone have any info for how this works in regard to US Customs (or is there a general thread about this)? I've never "imported" anything like this before.
Thanks mate
US custom is pretty generous for importing, at least compact to EU custom, they normally let go stuff declared under $100 freely, which I did several times already.
And that's what I'm planning to do for Moon GB, unless buyer requests otherwise
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yeah, here in EU (Switzerland) stuff declared above 60$ gets about 30$ import tax slapped on it
So remember to count that up with a KB on 500-600 USD that will end up with roughly 180 USD in customs as a thank you extra ;)
Post by: pon10 on Fri, 14 July 2017, 00:39:28
guys.. any tips on the color combination?
Contrast colors and counter colors is always nice and a backup in ALL titanium grey ;)
Your choice! :p
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Post by: Arokai on Fri, 14 July 2017, 11:10:15
I think he meant seeing all the colors in one photo not in board form but a sample size, so we can see how different colors look next to one another and in similar lighting. The only sample I see of the starry night is the plate which you can hardly see.
I would like to be able to see titanium gray and starry night next to each other to have a clear pictureGotcha, that’s fair. I’d also like to see that colour combination. I’m so torn on colours right now.Same with me. too confused to decide a color.
That's the main reason I haven't fill the form yet. :confused:
Here are pics for starry night and titanium grey in comparison
Starry night grey:Show Image(http://imgur.com/3cYFxPg.jpg)
Titanium grey:Show Image(http://imgur.com/47CueNh.jpg)
Comparison: starry night grey on top, titanium grey underShow Image(http://imgur.com/8YSY82r.jpg)Yes correct! :) i dont think i will go ahead with this buy if its not possible to see colors correctly since the price this will run up too! i am sure colors will have a good outcome but for my own justification i have to be sure haha
Sorry EVE didn't have all the color samples made, if you are torn between a few colors I can always ask for specific pics.
I think this has been asked before but on the last photo, whats the color of the plate? it looks somewhat Blueish which looks incredible!
thanks!
Post by: poolside on Fri, 14 July 2017, 14:12:38
Is the Moon still getting eight of these indents?
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 14 July 2017, 14:37:48
Saw this at the local grocery store. Guess I'll have to get it and drink it when my board comes in :cool:Oh wow I don't drink but great minds do think alike 🤣Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/i2P05Fq.png)
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Post by: Pendylan on Fri, 14 July 2017, 20:56:07
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sat, 15 July 2017, 19:12:44
I've edited my order about 6 times now but I think I finally decided on a color combo. The only thing im worried about now is the stainless vs brass logo. Since this isn't removable I cant just get one of each, is it possible to get a comparison of the two before the GB is over?
Sorry, brass logos haven't been made yet as only stainless steel was offered for CN GB.
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Post by: FioraCorp on Sun, 16 July 2017, 03:42:29
Entered, and so excited :D Gonna be my first tkl actually :))
Post by: rioc on Sun, 16 July 2017, 03:55:28
Well here we get a notice that we can pick up a package at the post office and that it'll cost the started amount to receive it, so it's held hostage basically... The state is ****ing criminalDoes anyone have any info for how this works in regard to US Customs (or is there a general thread about this)? I've never "imported" anything like this before.
Thanks mate
US custom is pretty generous for importing, at least compact to EU custom, they normally let go stuff declared under $100 freely, which I did several times already.
And that's what I'm planning to do for Moon GB, unless buyer requests otherwise
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yeah, here in EU (Switzerland) stuff declared above 60$ gets about 30$ import tax slapped on it
My question is more about how that is handled. Is the product held hostage until I pay the tax, or do I receive a bill later? In either event, how am I contacted, or how do I know if it is being held by customs?
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Post by: AndyTC on Sun, 16 July 2017, 04:10:18
Is the same in the UK, get a note in the post telling you you have to pay and collect it (20% of price + £8 royal mail handling fee)Well here we get a notice that we can pick up a package at the post office and that it'll cost the started amount to receive it, so it's held hostage basically... The state is ****ing criminalDoes anyone have any info for how this works in regard to US Customs (or is there a general thread about this)? I've never "imported" anything like this before.
Thanks mate
US custom is pretty generous for importing, at least compact to EU custom, they normally let go stuff declared under $100 freely, which I did several times already.
And that's what I'm planning to do for Moon GB, unless buyer requests otherwise
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yeah, here in EU (Switzerland) stuff declared above 60$ gets about 30$ import tax slapped on it
My question is more about how that is handled. Is the product held hostage until I pay the tax, or do I receive a bill later? In either event, how am I contacted, or how do I know if it is being held by customs?
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 16 July 2017, 04:48:25
you either get to pay it at the door to the post man (didn't happen to me in the last 6 months though) or they'll tell you that they couldn't find out the true value of the package (maybe look at the customs form or open it and see if there is an invoice inside then? smh), unless you call them they won't tell you who sent it and definitely not how much it was declared for or how much you have to pay, because they "aren't sure".
In that case you can drive to the customs office (only 45-60min per way for me since it's on the other side of the town) where you can usually wait for anywhere from 15min to around 3 hours depending on how bad they are feeling that day and how many breaks they decide to take.
Once they call you in you have to open the package in front of them (I won't even imagine what this would look like if you ordered... uhm... personal items), if there is an invoice inside they'll take that to calculate fees (again, they are allowed to open it, so why don't they try that beforehand?), if not you have to bring a PHYSICAL COPY of your order confirmation for them to calculate the fees off of.
All in all it's a bad experience that got worse and worse in the last 6 months, at times where there usually were 1-2 people waiting at the customs office there now are at least 4-6 people at any given time. They also recently started sending EVERYTHING to the customs office which is quite annoying.
Post by: rioc on Sun, 16 July 2017, 07:03:04
Here it is one of two things:Ah yeah, here we also get the opportunity to pay it directly to the postman at the door, but he shows up at 10am, so you're never at home at that time when you've got a job
you either get to pay it at the door to the post man (didn't happen to me in the last 6 months though) or they'll tell you that they couldn't find out the true value of the package (maybe look at the customs form or open it and see if there is an invoice inside then? smh), unless you call them they won't tell you who sent it and definitely not how much it was declared for or how much you have to pay, because they "aren't sure".
In that case you can drive to the customs office (only 45-60min per way for me since it's on the other side of the town) where you can usually wait for anywhere from 15min to around 3 hours depending on how bad they are feeling that day and how many breaks they decide to take.
Once they call you in you have to open the package in front of them (I won't even imagine what this would look like if you ordered... uhm... personal items), if there is an invoice inside they'll take that to calculate fees (again, they are allowed to open it, so why don't they try that beforehand?), if not you have to bring a PHYSICAL COPY of your order confirmation for them to calculate the fees off of.
All in all it's a bad experience that got worse and worse in the last 6 months, at times where there usually were 1-2 people waiting at the customs office there now are at least 4-6 people at any given time. They also recently started sending EVERYTHING to the customs office which is quite annoying.
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Post by: PriusProblems on Sun, 16 July 2017, 16:12:22
Post by: pon10 on Sun, 16 July 2017, 16:27:04
About to submit an order form - just checking that this does indeed support ISO enters, since the prototype plates don't...
From the last IC:
Quote
06-Apr-2017 Update 2:
I’ve got some great feedback from the community. And I’d like to add a few things to the prototype.
1. The weight is not polished for the prototype, but will be for GB;
2. See update 4 I’ll suggest Indents on the bottom case to be added for rubber feet;
3. See update 4 At this point we are planning to use PCBs from the designer of ZZ96;
4. ISO comptibility check;
5. For GB we will provide as many color as possible. Different colors can be ordered for top and bottom cases as long as the MOQ for each color for either case is meet. The GB will also be available in China so most likely you’ll be fine;
But this would be EXTREMELY nice to have confirmed since its not listed in the OP. and alot of things have changed since the IC
Post by: PriusProblems on Sun, 16 July 2017, 16:32:36
From the OP:About to submit an order form - just checking that this does indeed support ISO enters, since the prototype plates don't...
From the last IC:Quote06-Apr-2017 Update 2:
I’ve got some great feedback from the community. And I’d like to add a few things to the prototype.
1. The weight is not polished for the prototype, but will be for GB;
2. See update 4 I’ll suggest Indents on the bottom case to be added for rubber feet;
3. See update 4 At this point we are planning to use PCBs from the designer of ZZ96;
4. ISO comptibility check;
5. For GB we will provide as many color as possible. Different colors can be ordered for top and bottom cases as long as the MOQ for each color for either case is meet. The GB will also be available in China so most likely you’ll be fine;
But this would be EXTREMELY nice to have confirmed since its not listed in the OP. and alot of things have changed since the IC
Specifications:
Both WK and WKL layout available;
Supports ANSI and ISO enter;
Regular and stepped caps-lock supported;
TMK firmware, fully programmable PCB;
8 degree typing surface;
However I still wanted to make sure, seems odd to manufacture the prototypes without it. On a similar note, does this board support a short left shift (full ISO) as well? The prototype does not.
Post by: pon10 on Sun, 16 July 2017, 16:46:53
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 17 July 2017, 00:04:18
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Post by: darthzero on Mon, 17 July 2017, 03:25:41
Does anyone have any info for how this works in regard to US Customs (or is there a general thread about this)? I've never "imported" anything like this before.
Thanks mate
US custom is pretty generous for importing, at least compact to EU custom, they normally let go stuff declared under $100 freely, which I did several times already.
And that's what I'm planning to do for Moon GB, unless buyer requests otherwise
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Should you be saying things like this out loud? Sounds illegal to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ... also if the package gets lost it won't be covered by insurance (atleast not over 100$). Correct me if i'm wrong ^^
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 17 July 2017, 04:29:08
Should you be saying things like this out loud? Sounds illegal to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ... also if the package gets lost it won't be covered by insurance (atleast not over 100$). Correct me if i'm wrong ^^
Receiving it like this is not illegal and no one in China (where it's shipped from) will enforce this there either. Also, if this was mass produced $100 wouldn't be that far off.
Insurance can also be done individually from the declared value (idk if that's the case here though).
Post by: darthzero on Mon, 17 July 2017, 05:52:53
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 17 July 2017, 06:14:37
Post by: rioc on Mon, 17 July 2017, 06:54:42
Order form closed, please check your order status and let me know if there's any issue. Thanks for entry, invoice will be sent out in the next few days, as I'm currently away on vacation :p
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that's fine... my payday is tuesday 25th, so take your time until then ;)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 17 July 2017, 08:09:39
Should you be saying things like this out loud? Sounds illegal to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ... also if the package gets lost it won't be covered by insurance (atleast not over 100$). Correct me if i'm wrong ^^
Receiving it like this is not illegal and no one in China (where it's shipped from) will enforce this there either. Also, if this was mass produced $100 wouldn't be that far off.
Insurance can also be done individually from the declared value (idk if that's the case here though).
They're not mass produced. They're CNC'd individually. Last time I talked to EVE I got a quote of quite a bit more than $100 per board.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 17 July 2017, 08:24:18
Should you be saying things like this out loud? Sounds illegal to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ... also if the package gets lost it won't be covered by insurance (atleast not over 100$). Correct me if i'm wrong ^^
Receiving it like this is not illegal and no one in China (where it's shipped from) will enforce this there either. Also, if this was mass produced $100 wouldn't be that far off.
Insurance can also be done individually from the declared value (idk if that's the case here though).
They're not mass produced. They're CNC'd individually. Last time I talked to EVE I got a quote of quite a bit more than $100 per board.
I didn't imply that, is said IF this was mass produced.
Post by: stand.geek on Tue, 18 July 2017, 05:57:54
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 18 July 2017, 13:46:49
Sorry if I couldn't get back to you in time
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Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 18 July 2017, 21:38:07
Post by: pon10 on Thu, 20 July 2017, 05:00:08
I dont know if i assumed to fast that a full ISO layout is supported with a 1.25 left shift + a 1u and, not only a ISO enter?
Post by: zzyjayfree on Thu, 20 July 2017, 13:55:21
The forum has not been updated as far as price goes. Is this something that you have to do or did I do something wrong ? I really dont want to miss on this buy due to something I did wrong. DIllonHightower is the name in the form. Please let me know If i need to update anything. Thanks zzyjayfree
Hi, it's updated now! Sorry for late response, there's no reception in the Rockies.
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Thu, 20 July 2017, 14:00:24
Hey Jay! hope the Rockies treats you good! you are lucky haha, there are so damn pretty ;D
I dont know if i assumed to fast that a full ISO layout is supported with a 1.25 left shift + a 1u and, not only a ISO enter?
It's a shame that it has been smoky recently due to wildfire, but it also gives me a reason to come back for another trip.
Just hang in there for a few days and the invoice will fly out.
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Post by: Philrulesworld on Sat, 22 July 2017, 13:20:03
I'll keep the form till end of this week. Payment will be postponed for a week too.
Does this mean we will have until August 7th to pay invoices?
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sat, 22 July 2017, 19:31:52
I'll keep the form till end of this week. Payment will be postponed for a week too.
Does this mean we will have until August 7th to pay invoices?
Correct. I'm On my way home now. Will start to send out invoice tomorrow.
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Post by: DillonHightower on Sat, 22 July 2017, 21:17:36
Post by: pon10 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 04:26:05
Just curious, whats the point of having an EXTRA pcb? Isn't one enough? :D
Just imaging, you are sitting there with your 600 USD board, you about to solder, but your iron is too hot and then and then.. you have this other awesome set of switches you paid 1.3 USD per switch for, but you want to use them on your board but then your have soldered everything. your thumb and desolder pump works only on a couple of switches Ah it hits you, you just take your second plate and PCB. wupti - you have a new experience on your 600 + USD, KB. :p
Post by: Philrulesworld on Sun, 23 July 2017, 06:34:17
Correct. I'm On my way home now. Will start to send out invoice tomorrow.
This is really good to hear! Thanks dude!
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 23 July 2017, 09:15:59
http://imgur.com/a/52uAv
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 23 July 2017, 09:17:19
Guys, I'm back! Invoice will start to go out soon. btw, there's a pic of brass and SS logo. It's for Chinese batch therefore different design.
http://imgur.com/a/52uAv
Post by: rioc on Sun, 23 July 2017, 09:31:45
Guys, I'm back! Invoice will start to go out soon. btw, there's a pic of brass and SS logo
http://imgur.com/a/52uAv (http://imgur.com/a/52uAv)
this isn't the logo from the first GB though is it?
I really like this one a lot... oh well... can't have everything ;)
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 23 July 2017, 09:33:31
Guys, I'm back! Invoice will start to go out soon. btw, there's a pic of brass and SS logo
http://imgur.com/a/52uAv (http://imgur.com/a/52uAv)
this isn't the logo from the first GB though is it?
I really like this one a lot... oh well... can't have everything ;)
it's the one EVE designed and used for CN GB.
Post by: rioc on Sun, 23 July 2017, 10:38:35
Any possibility I can have that logo in treated brass on my moon?Guys, I'm back! Invoice will start to go out soon. btw, there's a pic of brass and SS logo
http://imgur.com/a/52uAv (http://imgur.com/a/52uAv)
this isn't the logo from the first GB though is it?
I really like this one a lot... oh well... can't have everything ;)
it's the one EVE designed and used for CN GB.
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 23 July 2017, 12:20:07
Any possibility I can have that logo in treated brass on my moon?Guys, I'm back! Invoice will start to go out soon. btw, there's a pic of brass and SS logo
http://imgur.com/a/52uAv (http://imgur.com/a/52uAv)
this isn't the logo from the first GB though is it?
I really like this one a lot... oh well... can't have everything ;)
it's the one EVE designed and used for CN GB.
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Sorry that is for CN GB only, let's keep things as easy as possible for EVE. We don't want to mess up your orders, do we?
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 23 July 2017, 12:24:59
Any possibility I can have that logo in treated brass on my moon?Guys, I'm back! Invoice will start to go out soon. btw, there's a pic of brass and SS logo
http://imgur.com/a/52uAv (http://imgur.com/a/52uAv)
this isn't the logo from the first GB though is it?
I really like this one a lot... oh well... can't have everything ;)
it's the one EVE designed and used for CN GB.
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Sorry that is for CN GB only, let's keep things as easy as possible for EVE. We don't want to mess up your orders, do we?
Oh my goodness, I would seriously love the CN GB logo. :'(
I'd even pay a little extra, as it looks amazing. That really fits the Moon theme.
Post by: pon10 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 12:59:24
From the OP:About to submit an order form - just checking that this does indeed support ISO enters, since the prototype plates don't...
From the last IC:Quote06-Apr-2017 Update 2:
I’ve got some great feedback from the community. And I’d like to add a few things to the prototype.
1. The weight is not polished for the prototype, but will be for GB;
2. See update 4 I’ll suggest Indents on the bottom case to be added for rubber feet;
3. See update 4 At this point we are planning to use PCBs from the designer of ZZ96;
4. ISO comptibility check;
5. For GB we will provide as many color as possible. Different colors can be ordered for top and bottom cases as long as the MOQ for each color for either case is meet. The GB will also be available in China so most likely you’ll be fine;
But this would be EXTREMELY nice to have confirmed since its not listed in the OP. and alot of things have changed since the IC
Specifications:
Both WK and WKL layout available;
Supports ANSI and ISO enter;
Regular and stepped caps-lock supported;
TMK firmware, fully programmable PCB;
8 degree typing surface;
However I still wanted to make sure, seems odd to manufacture the prototypes without it. On a similar note, does this board support a short left shift (full ISO) as well? The prototype does not.
Last thing before you send out invoices, still need to have this confirmed? ( universal plate ) :) and more PCB info will also be great :) thanks for the info and update so far, colors etc.
Post by: poolside on Sun, 23 July 2017, 18:37:53
(http://i.imgur.com/7bVdEmpm.jpg)
Is the top case "Blue Magenta" color correctly labeled? The plate color is labeled "Violet Purple" whereas it looks pinkish, rather magenta-ish than purplish.
Shouldn't that be the other way around, violet/purple top and blue magenta plate?
Post by: neralo on Sun, 23 July 2017, 19:46:35
Guys, I'm back! Invoice will start to go out soon. btw, there's a pic of brass and SS logo
http://imgur.com/a/52uAv
whoo its happening guys!
Quick question zzjayfree, when is the due date for invoice payment? Trying to make sure that this payment only appears on next month's credit card bill.
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 23 July 2017, 21:19:28
- Is it possible to pick an ANSI only plate, like in the pictures?
- If we pay more, can we get that smexy CB Moon logo? <3
Regardless, thanks for your hard work Jay. Really excited for this board!
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 23 July 2017, 21:20:38
I am in doubt. In that picture from the album:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7bVdEmpm.jpg)
Is the top case "Blue Magenta" color correctly labeled? The plate color is labeled "Violet Purple" whereas it looks pinkish, rather magenta-ish than purplish.
Shouldn't that be the other way around, violet/purple top and blue magenta plate?
Good point, I just thought about that myself. I chose that combo, so I'm wondering about this too. I would be bummed out with a Magenta board instead of that amazing purple.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 24 July 2017, 10:40:34
I am in doubt. In that picture from the album:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7bVdEmpm.jpg)
Is the top case "Blue Magenta" color correctly labeled? The plate color is labeled "Violet Purple" whereas it looks pinkish, rather magenta-ish than purplish.
Shouldn't that be the other way around, violet/purple top and blue magenta plate?
Good point, I just thought about that myself. I chose that combo, so I'm wondering about this too. I would be bummed out with a Magenta board instead of that amazing purple.
I am in doubt. In that picture from the album:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7bVdEmpm.jpg)
Is the top case "Blue Magenta" color correctly labeled? The plate color is labeled "Violet Purple" whereas it looks pinkish, rather magenta-ish than purplish.
Shouldn't that be the other way around, violet/purple top and blue magenta plate?
Basically the top is blue-ish purple and the plate pink-ish purple
I'd say the pic is pretty close to actual color, so if you are not sure about the color, please always go by the pics. I'm not good at naming the colors as English is my second language.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 24 July 2017, 10:52:07
Guys, I'm back! Invoice will start to go out soon. btw, there's a pic of brass and SS logo
http://imgur.com/a/52uAv
whoo its happening guys!
Quick question zzjayfree, when is the due date for invoice payment? Trying to make sure that this payment only appears on next month's credit card bill.
All Invoices due two weeks upon recieve.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 24 July 2017, 10:55:05
Two questions.
- Is it possible to pick an ANSI only plate, like in the pictures?
- If we pay more, can we get that smexy CB Moon logo? <3
Regardless, thanks for your hard work Jay. Really excited for this board!
From the OP:About to submit an order form - just checking that this does indeed support ISO enters, since the prototype plates don't...
From the last IC:Quote06-Apr-2017 Update 2:
I’ve got some great feedback from the community. And I’d like to add a few things to the prototype.
1. The weight is not polished for the prototype, but will be for GB;
2. See update 4 I’ll suggest Indents on the bottom case to be added for rubber feet;
3. See update 4 At this point we are planning to use PCBs from the designer of ZZ96;
4. ISO comptibility check;
5. For GB we will provide as many color as possible. Different colors can be ordered for top and bottom cases as long as the MOQ for each color for either case is meet. The GB will also be available in China so most likely you’ll be fine;
But this would be EXTREMELY nice to have confirmed since its not listed in the OP. and alot of things have changed since the IC
Specifications:
Both WK and WKL layout available;
Supports ANSI and ISO enter;
Regular and stepped caps-lock supported;
TMK firmware, fully programmable PCB;
8 degree typing surface;
However I still wanted to make sure, seems odd to manufacture the prototypes without it. On a similar note, does this board support a short left shift (full ISO) as well? The prototype does not.
Last thing before you send out invoices, still need to have this confirmed? ( universal plate ) :) and more PCB info will also be great :) thanks for the info and update so far, colors etc.
I'd be getting pics of PCB and plate soon, I believe we will be using universal plate.
I have to say sorry to those who want a CN GB logo, let's keep things simple for EVE so no order will be messed up.
Post by: neralo on Mon, 24 July 2017, 11:03:44
Guys, I'm back! Invoice will start to go out soon. btw, there's a pic of brass and SS logo
http://imgur.com/a/52uAv
whoo its happening guys!
Quick question zzjayfree, when is the due date for invoice payment? Trying to make sure that this payment only appears on next month's credit card bill.
All Invoices due two weeks upon recieve.
Awesome. Already paid though heh! Looking forward to it! Now to decide switches...
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Post by: HTN47 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 13:18:01
Post by: swangful on Mon, 24 July 2017, 13:35:22
Are the invoices still going out? Just double checking since I haven't receive my invoice yet, REALLY don't wanna miss out on this GB.
I paid mine today. I think some issues with invoicing happened, but might want to verify with zzjayfree.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 24 July 2017, 15:49:28
Post by: poolside on Mon, 24 July 2017, 16:49:25
I am in doubt. In that picture from the album:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7bVdEmpm.jpg)
Is the top case "Blue Magenta" color correctly labeled? The plate color is labeled "Violet Purple" whereas it looks pinkish, rather magenta-ish than purplish.
Shouldn't that be the other way around, violet/purple top and blue magenta plate?
Good point, I just thought about that myself. I chose that combo, so I'm wondering about this too. I would be bummed out with a Magenta board instead of that amazing purple.I am in doubt. In that picture from the album:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7bVdEmpm.jpg)
Is the top case "Blue Magenta" color correctly labeled? The plate color is labeled "Violet Purple" whereas it looks pinkish, rather magenta-ish than purplish.
Shouldn't that be the other way around, violet/purple top and blue magenta plate?
Basically the top is blue-ish purple and the plate pink-ish purple
I'd say the pic is pretty close to actual color, so if you are not sure about the color, please always go by the pics. I'm not good at naming the colors as English is my second language.
Thanks. So, trusting the picture labels it should be "Blue Magenta" for the LA Lakers purple. :)
I hope nothing will get mixed up during anodizing.
Post by: afrokobe on Mon, 24 July 2017, 18:20:13
****, now that you say that I want a purple one :(I am in doubt. In that picture from the album:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7bVdEmpm.jpg)
Is the top case "Blue Magenta" color correctly labeled? The plate color is labeled "Violet Purple" whereas it looks pinkish, rather magenta-ish than purplish.
Shouldn't that be the other way around, violet/purple top and blue magenta plate?
Good point, I just thought about that myself. I chose that combo, so I'm wondering about this too. I would be bummed out with a Magenta board instead of that amazing purple.I am in doubt. In that picture from the album:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7bVdEmpm.jpg)
Is the top case "Blue Magenta" color correctly labeled? The plate color is labeled "Violet Purple" whereas it looks pinkish, rather magenta-ish than purplish.
Shouldn't that be the other way around, violet/purple top and blue magenta plate?
Basically the top is blue-ish purple and the plate pink-ish purple
I'd say the pic is pretty close to actual color, so if you are not sure about the color, please always go by the pics. I'm not good at naming the colors as English is my second language.
Thanks. So, trusting the picture labels it should be "Blue Magenta" for the LA Lakers purple. :)
I hope nothing will get mixed up during anodizing.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 24 July 2017, 22:59:02
Thanks
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 24 July 2017, 22:59:53
Post by: rioc on Tue, 25 July 2017, 09:08:04
(edit: I never felt my recent avatar was as matching to a comment as this... such cheese)
Post by: pon10 on Tue, 25 July 2017, 15:20:15
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 25 July 2017, 16:17:44
Thanks for the invoice! I cant pay until i know the plate support full ISO functionality!?! and not only a ISO enter :-*
I should have a pic of actual PCB and plate soon.
Post by: pon10 on Tue, 25 July 2017, 16:34:35
Thanks for the invoice! I cant pay until i know the plate support full ISO functionality!?! and not only a ISO enter :-*
I should have a pic of actual PCB and plate soon.
Awesome!!
Post by: SBN on Tue, 25 July 2017, 17:02:48
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 25 July 2017, 17:04:48
zzyjayfree did you send out all invoices already? Still didn't receive mine...Apparently PayPal has a limit for invoicing daily. Not sure if it's based on dollar amount or total invoice numbers.. I sent out 34 on Sunday and 32 on Monday. I'll send out more tonight.
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Post by: SBN on Tue, 25 July 2017, 17:46:56
zzyjayfree did you send out all invoices already? Still didn't receive mine...Apparently PayPal has a limit for invoicing daily. Not sure if it's based on dollar amount or total invoice numbers.. I sent out 34 on Sunday and 32 on Monday. I'll send out more tonight.
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Thx...looking forward to it...I guess...ok...maybe not! ;)
Post by: stand.geek on Tue, 25 July 2017, 22:21:31
I need to delay the payment until first of August if it is possible ;D
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 25 July 2017, 22:25:26
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 25 July 2017, 23:15:49
1) Some of you guys might have received an update for your invoice with 2-3 bucks increase. The reason is PayPal actually used 4.4%+$0.3 for fee calculation, I invoiced as 3.9%+$0.3. Please see below screenshot as proof..
(http://imgur.com/WHoEEXQ.jpg)
$567.43x0.044+$0.3=$25.6682 <--- that's some solid math right there!
I'm not gonna bother send another one if you've already paid yours. Consider it as a treat from EVE for early birds. A sip of beer would be nice, isn't it?
Sorry if it caused any confusion and inconvenience to you..
2) I've got pics of PCB and plates now: http://imgur.com/a/P1kLV
Note the plate in the pics is for Mira but Moon is using an identical one. I hope you can tell if the PCB supports the layout you want from the pics.
Edit: also note the PCB isn't final product.
3) Due to invoice update, I was only able to send out a few invoices today. However, they are all created and saved in PayPal, so I'll have them sent out as soon as PayPal allows me to do so.
Post by: rioc on Wed, 26 July 2017, 00:57:44
Hi guys, I've got a few updates for Moon.
1) Some of you guys might have received an update for your invoice with 2-3 bucks increase. The reason is PayPal actually used 4.4%+$0.3 for fee calculation, I invoiced as 3.9%+$0.3. Please see below screenshot as proof..Show Image(http://imgur.com/WHoEEXQ.jpg)
$567.43x0.044+$0.3=$25.6682 <--- that's some solid math right there!
I'm not gonna bother send another one if you've already paid yours. Consider it as a treat from EVE for early birds. A sip of beer would be nice, isn't it?
Sorry if it caused any confusion and inconvenience to you..
2) I've got pics of PCB and plates now: http://imgur.com/a/P1kLV
Note the plate in the pics is for Mira but Moon is using an identical one. I hope you can tell if the PCB supports the layout you want from the pics.
Edit: also note the PCB isn't final product.
3) Due to invoice update, I was only able to send out a few invoices today. However, they are all created and saved in PayPal, so I'll have them sent out as soon as PayPal allows me to do so.
Yess, ISO Moon confirmed :)
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 26 July 2017, 09:09:27
I'm also looking for reliable assembly service, ideally one can supply switches and LEDs and stuff to make the whole thing easy.
If you are planning to use assembly service, just shoot me a pm so I have a general idea what the total number will be.
Post by: Arokai on Wed, 26 July 2017, 10:45:19
Post by: rioc on Wed, 26 July 2017, 10:48:36
on the thread where we chose the logo designs you stated anyone who had entered would get a special keycap any luck we can see what it looks like :) hyped beyond the moon!
oh really? I missed that part
Post by: Arokai on Wed, 26 July 2017, 11:34:50
on the thread where we chose the logo designs you stated anyone who had entered would get a special keycap any luck we can see what it looks like :) hyped beyond the moon!
oh really? I missed that part
here you go ;)
We have two winners! Winner for Logo is Stand.geeks (1st place for both 1st and 2nd vote)and for weight it's Gaiden (76 votes out of 129 responses)! Result link: https://goo.gl/doPKk2
To show our appreciation to these two amazing person, they will each receive 50% off on their order!
Or a cash reward (TBD) if any of them decides not to enter. Please pm me your option, whatever the decision is, it will not be published.
For everyone who submitted designs, you will receive an aluminum keycap in your order for free, winning or not.
Again, if you are not entering this GB, let me know so I can mail it to you. :thumb:
The cap does involve copyright and has been approved by the owner.
Anyways the winning logo is:Show Image(http://imgur.com/mf0NZQx.png)
and the winning weight is:Show Image(http://imgur.com/znqoI6q.png)
I understand this might not be your favourite design but keep in mind ultimately it's the board design that attracted us all!
We are currently analyzing entries from previous GB attempt and discussing color options.
Edit: all winning designs are still pending EVE's final approval, but I don't see a problem from here!
Post by: stand.geek on Wed, 26 July 2017, 12:45:10
on the thread where we chose the logo designs you stated anyone who had entered would get a special keycap any luck we can see what it looks like :) hyped beyond the moon!
oh really? I missed that part
here you go ;)We have two winners! Winner for Logo is Stand.geeks (1st place for both 1st and 2nd vote)and for weight it's Gaiden (76 votes out of 129 responses)! Result link: https://goo.gl/doPKk2
To show our appreciation to these two amazing person, they will each receive 50% off on their order!
Or a cash reward (TBD) if any of them decides not to enter. Please pm me your option, whatever the decision is, it will not be published.
For everyone who submitted designs, you will receive an aluminum keycap in your order for free, winning or not.
Again, if you are not entering this GB, let me know so I can mail it to you. :thumb:
The cap does involve copyright and has been approved by the owner.
Anyways the winning logo is:Show Image(http://imgur.com/mf0NZQx.png)
and the winning weight is:Show Image(http://imgur.com/znqoI6q.png)
I understand this might not be your favourite design but keep in mind ultimately it's the board design that attracted us all!
We are currently analyzing entries from previous GB attempt and discussing color options.
Edit: all winning designs are still pending EVE's final approval, but I don't see a problem from here!
I hope it has a MOON logo on it :))
Post by: breitling on Wed, 26 July 2017, 13:11:43
Post by: pon10 on Wed, 26 July 2017, 14:36:01
Hi guys, I've got a few updates for Moon.
1) Some of you guys might have received an update for your invoice with 2-3 bucks increase. The reason is PayPal actually used 4.4%+$0.3 for fee calculation, I invoiced as 3.9%+$0.3. Please see below screenshot as proof..Show Image(http://imgur.com/WHoEEXQ.jpg)
$567.43x0.044+$0.3=$25.6682 <--- that's some solid math right there!
I'm not gonna bother send another one if you've already paid yours. Consider it as a treat from EVE for early birds. A sip of beer would be nice, isn't it?
Sorry if it caused any confusion and inconvenience to you..
2) I've got pics of PCB and plates now: http://imgur.com/a/P1kLV
Note the plate in the pics is for Mira but Moon is using an identical one. I hope you can tell if the PCB supports the layout you want from the pics.
Edit: also note the PCB isn't final product.
3) Due to invoice update, I was only able to send out a few invoices today. However, they are all created and saved in PayPal, so I'll have them sent out as soon as PayPal allows me to do so.
Thanks for confirming the plate and pcb. for programming how do you recommend setting it up? Last note if would be good with a IRL name and info on the invoice :rolleyes: and not to mail that bring you to this site www.126.com :rolleyes:
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 26 July 2017, 20:38:02
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Thu, 27 July 2017, 03:28:04
...
2) I've got pics of PCB and plates now: http://imgur.com/a/P1kLV
Note the plate in the pics is for Mira but Moon is using an identical one. I hope you can tell if the PCB supports the layout you want from the pics.
Edit: also note the PCB isn't final product.
...
Is there a possibility for the PCB to include support for split backspace and split shift?
Post by: poolside on Sun, 30 July 2017, 15:49:35
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 31 July 2017, 08:05:45
Zzyjayfree, can we still request that the brass/SS logo be included with the case but not installed?Yes send me a msg with your invoice number to confirm pls
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 31 July 2017, 08:06:33
The PCB will be the same as what I posted earlier. Sorry if it doesn't support what you wanted....
2) I've got pics of PCB and plates now: http://imgur.com/a/P1kLV
Note the plate in the pics is for Mira but Moon is using an identical one. I hope you can tell if the PCB supports the layout you want from the pics.
Edit: also note the PCB isn't final product.
...
Is there a possibility for the PCB to include support for split backspace and split shift?
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Post by: jnav on Mon, 31 July 2017, 17:53:48
Post by: poolside on Mon, 31 July 2017, 18:02:47
Zzyjayfree, can we still request that the brass/SS logo be included with the case but not installed?Yes send me a msg with your invoice number to confirm pls
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Messaged, thanks :thumb:
Post by: swangful on Mon, 31 July 2017, 18:16:38
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 02 August 2017, 23:01:30
Any news on assembly service? :D
I've found a solid assembly service, finalizing details now.
On a side note, EVE is working on his next project and it will be a HHKB layout: http://imgur.com/a/CWAtu
Post by: Cocopah on Wed, 02 August 2017, 23:13:22
Any news on assembly service? :D
I've found a solid assembly service, finalizing details now.
On a side note, EVE is working on his next project and it will be a HHKB layout: http://imgur.com/a/CWAtu
Wow thats pretty cool
Post by: gaiden on Wed, 02 August 2017, 23:37:42
Oh wow now that's very interesting!Any news on assembly service? :D
I've found a solid assembly service, finalizing details now.
On a side note, EVE is working on his next project and it will be a HHKB layout: http://imgur.com/a/CWAtu
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Post by: rioc on Thu, 03 August 2017, 02:12:49
Any news on assembly service? :D
I've found a solid assembly service, finalizing details now.
On a side note, EVE is working on his next project and it will be a HHKB layout: http://imgur.com/a/CWAtu (http://imgur.com/a/CWAtu)
oh my, blocker corners 70% board... I'm in for that :)
(I'd be even more in if it'd have the real HHKB style offset bottom row, not centered)
Post by: neralo on Sun, 13 August 2017, 05:29:54
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Post by: Kavik on Sun, 13 August 2017, 10:03:48
Post by: rioc on Sun, 13 August 2017, 18:18:29
I hadn't even thought of this: will stabilizers be included with this keyboard? I'm wondering if I should get in on the ZealPC stab drop on Massdrop.If you want zeal stabs get them from his website, it's cheaper. At least the switches are
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Post by: Kavik on Sun, 13 August 2017, 19:53:14
I hadn't even thought of this: will stabilizers be included with this keyboard? I'm wondering if I should get in on the ZealPC stab drop on Massdrop.If you want zeal stabs get them from his website, it's cheaper. At least the switches are
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They are cheaper on ZealPC.net, but, after shipping, they're more expensive than MD.
Post by: rioc on Mon, 14 August 2017, 01:40:53
I hadn't even thought of this: will stabilizers be included with this keyboard? I'm wondering if I should get in on the ZealPC stab drop on Massdrop.If you want zeal stabs get them from his website, it's cheaper. At least the switches are
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They are cheaper on ZealPC.net, but, after shipping, they're more expensive than MD.
oh... well then, there's also GMK screw in stabs.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 14 August 2017, 22:39:49
I've also pulled some strings to provide assembly service.
Material:
Switches (each)
Cherry MX Black/Red/Blue/Brown: $0.5
Cherry MX Grey/Green/White/Clear/Silver: $0.7
Cherry MX Silent Red/Black: $0.75
Cherry RGB Red/Brown/Blue: $0.55
Cherry RGB Clear/Silver/Silent Red: $0.75
Others: (for the board)
Cherry Stabs: $15
Gold Plated Springs: $15
Trans Switch Housing: $0.5
Switch Sticker: $8
LED:
White/Red/Yellow/Grass Green/Blue/Orange: $10
Warm White/Pink/Icy Blue/Blue Green/Purple: $15
Service Fee:
Soldering: $35
Housing/Spring Swap, Sticker/LED Installing: $15 each
Let me know if I missed anything or the price is not reasonable, or if you want something else, I'll try my pest.
Post by: swangful on Tue, 15 August 2017, 01:17:33
Payment ended, all invoices are final. Each buyer will receive an email to confirm that the order is completed.
I've also pulled some strings to provide assembly service.
Material:
Switches (each)
Cherry MX Black/Red/Blue/Brown: $0.5
Cherry MX Grey/Green/White/Clear/Silver: $0.7
Cherry MX Silent Red/Black: $0.75
Cherry RGB Red/Brown/Blue: $0.55
Cherry RGB Clear/Silver/Silent Red: $0.75
Others: (for the board)
Cherry Stabs: $15
Gold Plated Springs: $15
Trans Switch Housing: $0.5
Switch Sticker: $8
LED:
White/Red/Yellow/Grass Green/Blue/Orange: $10
Warm White/Pink/Icy Blue/Blue Green/Purple: $15
Service Fee:
Soldering: $35
Housing/Spring Swap, Sticker/LED Installing: $15 each
Let me know if I missed anything or the price is not reasonable, or if you want something else, I'll try my pest.
Would you happen to have pictures of warm white/icy blue/blue green?
Post by: rioc on Tue, 15 August 2017, 01:38:26
Payment ended, all invoices are final. Each buyer will receive an email to confirm that the order is completed.
I've also pulled some strings to provide assembly service.
Material:
Switches (each)
Cherry MX Black/Red/Blue/Brown: $0.5
Cherry MX Grey/Green/White/Clear/Silver: $0.7
Cherry MX Silent Red/Black: $0.75
Cherry RGB Red/Brown/Blue: $0.55
Cherry RGB Clear/Silver/Silent Red: $0.75
Others: (for the board)
Cherry Stabs: $15
Gold Plated Springs: $15
Trans Switch Housing: $0.5
Switch Sticker: $8
LED:
White/Red/Yellow/Grass Green/Blue/Orange: $10
Warm White/Pink/Icy Blue/Blue Green/Purple: $15
Service Fee:
Soldering: $35
Housing/Spring Swap, Sticker/LED Installing: $15 each
Let me know if I missed anything or the price is not reasonable, or if you want something else, I'll try my pest.
hmm, actually planned on putting it together myself, but maybe to save some time I'll consider having this done for me for once... a few questions though:
what spring weights have you got?
what sticker colours?
can lubing also be done?
are the cherry stabs the genuine ones? (and will they be clipped?)
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 15 August 2017, 08:11:12
Payment ended, all invoices are final. Each buyer will receive an email to confirm that the order is completed.
I've also pulled some strings to provide assembly service.
Material:
Switches (each)
Cherry MX Black/Red/Blue/Brown: $0.5
Cherry MX Grey/Green/White/Clear/Silver: $0.7
Cherry MX Silent Red/Black: $0.75
Cherry RGB Red/Brown/Blue: $0.55
Cherry RGB Clear/Silver/Silent Red: $0.75
Others: (for the board)
Cherry Stabs: $15
Gold Plated Springs: $15
Trans Switch Housing: $0.5
Switch Sticker: $8
LED:
White/Red/Yellow/Grass Green/Blue/Orange: $10
Warm White/Pink/Icy Blue/Blue Green/Purple: $15
Service Fee:
Soldering: $35
Housing/Spring Swap, Sticker/LED Installing: $15 each
Let me know if I missed anything or the price is not reasonable, or if you want something else, I'll try my pest.
hmm, actually planned on putting it together myself, but maybe to save some time I'll consider having this done for me for once... a few questions though:
what spring weights have you got?
what sticker colours?
can lubing also be done?
are the cherry stabs the genuine ones? (and will they be clipped?)
62 67 78
Genuine cherry stabs. You can choose to clip or not
Live can be done for $25
I'll get a color list for stickers. DIY kerbs brings fun, but definitely time consuming...
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 15 August 2017, 08:11:53
I've requested pics from the assembly guy. Will update once I have it.Payment ended, all invoices are final. Each buyer will receive an email to confirm that the order is completed.
I've also pulled some strings to provide assembly service.
Material:
Switches (each)
Cherry MX Black/Red/Blue/Brown: $0.5
Cherry MX Grey/Green/White/Clear/Silver: $0.7
Cherry MX Silent Red/Black: $0.75
Cherry RGB Red/Brown/Blue: $0.55
Cherry RGB Clear/Silver/Silent Red: $0.75
Others: (for the board)
Cherry Stabs: $15
Gold Plated Springs: $15
Trans Switch Housing: $0.5
Switch Sticker: $8
LED:
White/Red/Yellow/Grass Green/Blue/Orange: $10
Warm White/Pink/Icy Blue/Blue Green/Purple: $15
Service Fee:
Soldering: $35
Housing/Spring Swap, Sticker/LED Installing: $15 each
Let me know if I missed anything or the price is not reasonable, or if you want something else, I'll try my pest.
Would you happen to have pictures of warm white/icy blue/blue green?
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Post by: poolside on Tue, 15 August 2017, 09:20:43
Payment ended, all invoices are final. Each buyer will receive an email to confirm that the order is completed.
I've also pulled some strings to provide assembly service.
Material:
Switches (each)
Cherry MX Black/Red/Blue/Brown: $0.5
Cherry MX Grey/Green/White/Clear/Silver: $0.7
Cherry MX Silent Red/Black: $0.75
Cherry RGB Red/Brown/Blue: $0.55
Cherry RGB Clear/Silver/Silent Red: $0.75
Others: (for the board)
Cherry Stabs: $15
Gold Plated Springs: $15
Trans Switch Housing: $0.5
Switch Sticker: $8
LED:
White/Red/Yellow/Grass Green/Blue/Orange: $10
Warm White/Pink/Icy Blue/Blue Green/Purple: $15
Service Fee:
Soldering: $35
Housing/Spring Swap, Sticker/LED Installing: $15 each
Let me know if I missed anything or the price is not reasonable, or if you want something else, I'll try my pest.
hmm, actually planned on putting it together myself, but maybe to save some time I'll consider having this done for me for once... a few questions though:
what spring weights have you got?
what sticker colours?
can lubing also be done?
are the cherry stabs the genuine ones? (and will they be clipped?)
Live can be done for $25
That typing mistake reads like that for an extra $25 the build can be streamed live. :p
Post by: Undergroundflaw on Tue, 15 August 2017, 10:39:59
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That would actually be a really cool option
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 15 August 2017, 10:42:29
Some do stream actually but it's always the wrong time due to time difference.
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Post by: swangful on Tue, 15 August 2017, 14:37:20
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 15 August 2017, 15:42:09
Are switches plate mounted or PCB mounted? I think it was mentioned somewhere but I can't find itAll are plate mounted.
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Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 15 August 2017, 17:31:44
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 15 August 2017, 17:45:45
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Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 15 August 2017, 17:55:27
The count started Monday. So by mid October we should have them ready
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awesome awesome. maybe the best birthday present to myself :))
Post by: swangful on Wed, 16 August 2017, 01:22:15
Are switches plate mounted or PCB mounted? I think it was mentioned somewhere but I can't find itAll are plate mounted.
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Thanks!
This includes stabs right? Or are stabs PCB mounted? :O Sorry for all the new questions
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 16 August 2017, 16:48:52
Are switches plate mounted or PCB mounted? I think it was mentioned somewhere but I can't find itAll are plate mounted.
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Thanks!
This includes stabs right? Or are stabs PCB mounted? :O Sorry for all the new questions
If I'm not mistaken all stabs are PCB mounted.
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Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 16 August 2017, 19:22:21
Are switches plate mounted or PCB mounted? I think it was mentioned somewhere but I can't find itAll are plate mounted.
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Thanks!
This includes stabs right? Or are stabs PCB mounted? :O Sorry for all the new questions
If I'm not mistaken all stabs are PCB mounted.
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not "costar" or "filco style". they are cheap and wobbly
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Stabiliser
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 16 August 2017, 22:01:57
Are switches plate mounted or PCB mounted? I think it was mentioned somewhere but I can't find itAll are plate mounted.
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Thanks!
This includes stabs right? Or are stabs PCB mounted? :O Sorry for all the new questions
If I'm not mistaken all stabs are PCB mounted.
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not "costar" or "filco style". they are cheap and wobbly
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Stabiliser
I guess technically you are right, I automatically ruled those out
Post by: swangful on Sat, 19 August 2017, 20:39:00
So stoked for this board to arrive
Post by: nathanchere on Fri, 25 August 2017, 01:37:35
The count started Monday. So by mid October we should have them ready
:D Should be around the same time my switches arrive
Post by: rioc on Fri, 25 August 2017, 01:39:06
The count started Monday. So by mid October we should have them ready
:D Should be around the same time my switches arrive
silent black GB?
Post by: swangful on Sat, 26 August 2017, 01:07:53
Post by: DillonHightower on Sun, 27 August 2017, 13:21:31
Does this plate allow for switch top removal? :O
I would say not by the looks of the plate. Most that allow this have notches on the sides to allow tool and top of switch to come out. Looks like the hole will be tight around the edges of switch not allowing it to come off once seated..
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 28 August 2017, 02:17:59
Switches, LEDs if you're into that, I've seen stabs mentioned a few times, anything else?
Post by: Undergroundflaw on Mon, 28 August 2017, 07:22:10
What are others thinking as far as extras needed for assembly?
Switches, LEDs if you're into that, I've seen stabs mentioned a few times, anything else?
I'm looking at using Holtites for this build as well. (Assuming they fit correctly in the pcb).
Post by: swangful on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:52:05
What are others thinking as far as extras needed for assembly?
Switches, LEDs if you're into that, I've seen stabs mentioned a few times, anything else?
I'm looking at using Holtites for this build as well. (Assuming they fit correctly in the pcb).
I think it was mentioned in the previous GB that holtites were not supported...but I would love to be wrong :D
Post by: vinzlr on Mon, 28 August 2017, 13:01:23
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 28 August 2017, 13:05:32
Is it too late to join this? The google order form is still open so I was wondering.
I believe so. Invoices were sent and paid several weeks ago now. Not sure if production has started yet. zzyJayfree may be able to provide a better answer.
Post by: Undergroundflaw on Mon, 28 August 2017, 13:09:39
What are others thinking as far as extras needed for assembly?
Switches, LEDs if you're into that, I've seen stabs mentioned a few times, anything else?
I'm looking at using Holtites for this build as well. (Assuming they fit correctly in the pcb).
I think it was mentioned in the previous GB that holtites were not supported...but I would love to be wrong :D
Dang, well either way I've got a sample pack coming with my zealios order that I'll test out.
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 05 September 2017, 01:19:09
Post by: swangful on Tue, 05 September 2017, 11:49:58
This is probably a really stupid question but the guts of a novatouch wouldn't have a hope in Hell of a fit into this case, right? My preference is for tactile non-clicky and I've bought a bunch of switches for testing, but as nice as this case is my 'endgame' is still Topres.
Lubed MODs are probably the closest thing to topre without being topre
Post by: Miotch92 on Sat, 09 September 2017, 02:54:36
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Post by: neralo on Sun, 10 September 2017, 23:25:40
I've requested pics from the assembly guy. Will update once I have it.Payment ended, all invoices are final. Each buyer will receive an email to confirm that the order is completed.
I've also pulled some strings to provide assembly service.
Material:
Switches (each)
Cherry MX Black/Red/Blue/Brown: $0.5
Cherry MX Grey/Green/White/Clear/Silver: $0.7
Cherry MX Silent Red/Black: $0.75
Cherry RGB Red/Brown/Blue: $0.55
Cherry RGB Clear/Silver/Silent Red: $0.75
Others: (for the board)
Cherry Stabs: $15
Gold Plated Springs: $15
Trans Switch Housing: $0.5
Switch Sticker: $8
LED:
White/Red/Yellow/Grass Green/Blue/Orange: $10
Warm White/Pink/Icy Blue/Blue Green/Purple: $15
Service Fee:
Soldering: $35
Housing/Spring Swap, Sticker/LED Installing: $15 each
Let me know if I missed anything or the price is not reasonable, or if you want something else, I'll try my pest.
Would you happen to have pictures of warm white/icy blue/blue green?
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Hey zzjayfree, wanted to check if the assembly guy got back to you with pics of the LEDs?
Its been about 4 weeks into production now as well, so I also wanted to check if everything's still on track.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 11 September 2017, 07:13:19
I assume this will take a standard USB micro? Not USB mini or USB-C?
Post by: swangful on Mon, 11 September 2017, 11:49:53
I might just be blind but I can't see a cable input anywhere and it makes it hard to order a matching cable :D
I assume this will take a standard USB micro? Not USB mini or USB-C?
EDIT: Not sure why I put micro here, my bad. It is mini, as i've stated in several other places
Input is where the pink arrow is:
(http://imgur.com/EET9Jl1.jpg)
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 12 September 2017, 08:19:43
As for the LED I'll get it updated tonight. But I'm thinking I'll offer assembly at a later stage of the GB. Currently we are at CNC stage, I'll also update some production pics. There was some minor delay as EVE is working on Mira SE anodizing. I'll throw the album link here so you guys can get a grasp of EVE's finishing.
https://imgur.com/gallery/5ahVo
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Post by: swangful on Tue, 12 September 2017, 15:30:57
Thank swangful for your help. Community spirit right there.
As for the LED I'll get it updated tonight. But I'm thinking I'll offer assembly at a later stage of the GB. Currently we are at CNC stage, I'll also update some production pics. There was some minor delay as EVE is working on Mira SE anodizing. I'll throw the album link here so you guys can get a grasp of EVE's finishing.
https://imgur.com/gallery/5ahVo
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Glad to help :)
Can't wait to get this board, those MIRA pics are awesome.
Post by: Helldrop on Tue, 12 September 2017, 15:54:30
Thank swangful for your help. Community spirit right there.
As for the LED I'll get it updated tonight. But I'm thinking I'll offer assembly at a later stage of the GB. Currently we are at CNC stage, I'll also update some production pics. There was some minor delay as EVE is working on Mira SE anodizing. I'll throw the album link here so you guys can get a grasp of EVE's finishing.
https://imgur.com/gallery/5ahVo
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Look awesome! Can't wait to meet the Moon! I do look forward to some updated pics.
Post by: neralo on Wed, 13 September 2017, 02:52:13
Thank swangful for your help. Community spirit right there.
As for the LED I'll get it updated tonight. But I'm thinking I'll offer assembly at a later stage of the GB. Currently we are at CNC stage, I'll also update some production pics. There was some minor delay as EVE is working on Mira SE anodizing. I'll throw the album link here so you guys can get a grasp of EVE's finishing.
https://imgur.com/gallery/5ahVo
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Thanks for the update! That anode looks great. Out of curioisity is the white-ish looking anode on image 6 in the album the same as the "light grey" colour for moon?
Post by: SuperVan on Wed, 13 September 2017, 09:51:59
Post by: swangful on Wed, 13 September 2017, 16:30:40
Thank swangful for your help. Community spirit right there.
As for the LED I'll get it updated tonight. But I'm thinking I'll offer assembly at a later stage of the GB. Currently we are at CNC stage, I'll also update some production pics. There was some minor delay as EVE is working on Mira SE anodizing. I'll throw the album link here so you guys can get a grasp of EVE's finishing.
https://imgur.com/gallery/5ahVo
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Thanks for the update! That anode looks great. Out of curioisity is the white-ish looking anode on image 6 in the album the same as the "light grey" colour for moon?
Looks close enough to me :D
(https://i.imgur.com/aiwfoXI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iERy218.jpg)
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 13 September 2017, 16:44:16
Looks close enough to me :D
Thanks for the update! That anode looks great. Out of curioisity is the white-ish looking anode on image 6 in the album the same as the "light grey" colour for moon?
In fact they are the same color.
Btw I've received some pics for moon production. Check out how Moon is made: https://imgur.com/a/P4Pbh
Post by: poolside on Wed, 13 September 2017, 17:36:56
Looks close enough to me :DThanks for the update! That anode looks great. Out of curioisity is the white-ish looking anode on image 6 in the album the same as the "light grey" colour for moon?
In fact they are the same color.
Btw I've received some pics for moon production. Check out how Moon is made: https://imgur.com/a/P4Pbh
Thanks for these pics. I wonder how the smooth finish of the curvy surfaces is achieved.
Post by: swangful on Wed, 13 September 2017, 17:38:26
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 13 September 2017, 18:06:55
Thanks for these pics. I wonder how the smooth finish of the curvy surfaces is achieved.
Bigger drill heads are used first to remove the big chunks of aluminum and then the smaller heads for details. After CNC is done, these cases still need to be hand polished. It's quite common for these kind of designs. And that's also why we did not recommend any extra top/bottom purchase as they might not fit perfectly. (It's less obvious for straight line designs)
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Post by: neralo on Thu, 14 September 2017, 00:41:46
Looks close enough to me :DThanks for the update! That anode looks great. Out of curioisity is the white-ish looking anode on image 6 in the album the same as the "light grey" colour for moon?
In fact they are the same color.
Btw I've received some pics for moon production. Check out how Moon is made: https://imgur.com/a/P4Pbh
YESS that light grey is amazing! Exactly what I hoped it would be seems like.
Post by: stand.geek on Thu, 14 September 2017, 02:42:09
Looks close enough to me :DThanks for the update! That anode looks great. Out of curioisity is the white-ish looking anode on image 6 in the album the same as the "light grey" colour for moon?
In fact they are the same color.
Btw I've received some pics for moon production. Check out how Moon is made: https://imgur.com/a/P4Pbh
NICE! do you have a video of it being CNCed? would be very satisfying to watch. lol
Hope this still in track with the timeline ;D
Post by: Undergroundflaw on Thu, 14 September 2017, 18:46:48
Looks close enough to me :DThanks for the update! That anode looks great. Out of curioisity is the white-ish looking anode on image 6 in the album the same as the "light grey" colour for moon?
In fact they are the same color.
Btw I've received some pics for moon production. Check out how Moon is made: https://imgur.com/a/P4Pbh
Awesome progress pics! Great to see everything coming along.
Post by: DillonHightower on Fri, 15 September 2017, 18:27:06
Post by: swangful on Fri, 15 September 2017, 19:12:27
Wondering what type of cable this is going to use? micro or mini?
Mini :)
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 19 September 2017, 08:26:39
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 19 September 2017, 12:20:03
Micro according to this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2490243#msg2490243
zzjayfree said mini in the IC threads. That guy isn't in charge of anything.
Post by: swangful on Tue, 19 September 2017, 12:39:32
Micro according to this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2490243#msg2490243
zzjayfree said mini in the IC threads. That guy isn't in charge of anything.
My bad! Edited my post. Thanks for pointing that out.
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 20 September 2017, 03:39:22
Micro according to this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2490243#msg2490243
zzjayfree said mini in the IC threads
Oh, wow :( OK that's really disappointing. No USB-C sure I understand, but ugh... any tips on a compact/discrete USB-micro or USB-C (female) to USB-mini (male) adapter?
Post by: stand.geek on Wed, 20 September 2017, 05:21:09
Micro according to this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2490243#msg2490243
zzjayfree said mini in the IC threads
Oh, wow :( OK that's really disappointing. No USB-C sure I understand, but ugh... any tips on a compact/discrete USB-micro or USB-C (female) to USB-mini (male) adapter?
Actually it is pretty common for mini usb to be used on custom keyboard like this.
there are many cheap option for micro female to mini male. I got mine for about $2.
Not sure about USB C tho
Post by: nobleslight on Wed, 20 September 2017, 23:35:45
Post by: DillonHightower on Sun, 24 September 2017, 04:07:21
Any update regarding production timeline? Still on track for the end of this month?
Somehow I highly doute it will make it in the next few days. But hell I hope they prove me wrong..
Post by: nobleslight on Sun, 24 September 2017, 04:34:59
Any update regarding production timeline? Still on track for the end of this month?
Somehow I highly doute it will make it in the next few days. But hell I hope they prove me wrong..
Yep. Wasn't really expecting it, just hoping for a small update since it's been about 2 weeks since we've last heard anything.
Post by: DillonHightower on Sun, 24 September 2017, 05:03:24
Any update regarding production timeline? Still on track for the end of this month?
Somehow I highly doute it will make it in the next few days. But hell I hope they prove me wrong..
Yep. Wasn't really expecting it, just hoping for a small update since it's been about 2 weeks since we've last heard anything.
No I agree. I hate delay updated the day of expected date.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 24 September 2017, 14:16:34
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 24 September 2017, 19:06:58
Post by: Singular on Sun, 24 September 2017, 20:53:54
Geekhack order is still in process of manufacturing. However, I got some pics of Chinese GB and they are ready to roll out pretty soon: https://imgur.com/a/6YloJ You'll able to find most of the color options from these pics, I hope it helps.
What's the HHKB layout board with f-row in the pictures?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 24 September 2017, 21:02:54
Geekhack order is still in process of manufacturing. However, I got some pics of Chinese GB and they are ready to roll out pretty soon: https://imgur.com/a/6YloJ You'll able to find most of the color options from these pics, I hope it helps.
What's the HHKB layout board with f-row in the pictures?
EVE's next project
More info coming. I think the China GB will be soon.
Post by: finalarcadia on Sun, 24 September 2017, 22:23:02
Post by: stand.geek on Mon, 25 September 2017, 00:13:14
Geekhack order is still in process of manufacturing. However, I got some pics of Chinese GB and they are ready to roll out pretty soon: https://imgur.com/a/6YloJ You'll able to find most of the color options from these pics, I hope it helps.
Nice! Can't wait to get my hands on that beauty :p
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 25 September 2017, 00:15:57
Post by: nobleslight on Mon, 25 September 2017, 01:39:13
Geekhack order is still in process of manufacturing. However, I got some pics of Chinese GB and they are ready to roll out pretty soon: https://imgur.com/a/6YloJ You'll able to find most of the color options from these pics, I hope it helps.
Wow, those are looking good! That green & purple Moon looks like it's fated to go with a troubled minds set.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 September 2017, 02:00:37
Geekhack order is still in process of manufacturing. However, I got some pics of Chinese GB and they are ready to roll out pretty soon: https://imgur.com/a/6YloJ You'll able to find most of the color options from these pics, I hope it helps.
Wow, those are looking good! That green & purple Moon looks like it's fated to go with a troubled minds set.
That's no moon...
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 25 September 2017, 11:15:05
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:49:49
I really hope none of this North Korea sanctions nonsense affects trade with China and this GB.
I had some mail delayed in Chinese customs during the height of the tensions last month. It was delayed for about 2 weeks because of China's border spat, as well as the nuclear tensions between NK and USA.
I just wanted my taobao ****, like...
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 25 September 2017, 16:00:54
Geekhack order is still in process of manufacturing. However, I got some pics of Chinese GB and they are ready to roll out pretty soon: https://imgur.com/a/6YloJ You'll able to find most of the color options from these pics, I hope it helps.
So where does that put us? A couple weeks out or a month or more ???
Post by: poolside on Mon, 25 September 2017, 16:04:13
Geekhack order is still in process of manufacturing. However, I got some pics of Chinese GB and they are ready to roll out pretty soon: https://imgur.com/a/6YloJ You'll able to find most of the color options from these pics, I hope it helps.
Thanks. No dark purple Moon in those pictures, but that gray/black board has got a nice stealth look :cool:
Thanks for these pics. I wonder how the smooth finish of the curvy surfaces is achieved.
Bigger drill heads are used first to remove the big chunks of aluminum and then the smaller heads for details. After CNC is done, these cases still need to be hand polished. It's quite common for these kind of designs. And that's also why we did not recommend any extra top/bottom purchase as they might not fit perfectly. (It's less obvious for straight line designs)
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Looking at the end result, it is rather impressive.
Post by: swangful on Mon, 25 September 2017, 16:30:17
Geekhack order is still in process of manufacturing. However, I got some pics of Chinese GB and they are ready to roll out pretty soon: https://imgur.com/a/6YloJ You'll able to find most of the color options from these pics, I hope it helps.
So where does that put us? A couple weeks out or a month or more ???
I was under the impression we were shooting for mid-late Oct. Seems like with any more delays it may push into Nov :(
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 25 September 2017, 21:35:25
What's the HHKB layout board with f-row in the pictures?
EVE's next project
More info coming. I think the China GB will be soon.
We'll be able to buy that HHKB board, right? Do want. ;)
Like puddsy mentioned, it's EVE's upcoming project. However, it'll have to wait moon wraps up for the best of buyers :p
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 25 September 2017, 21:37:04
I was under the impression we were shooting for mid-late Oct. Seems like with any more delays it may push into Nov :(
So where does that put us? A couple weeks out or a month or more ???
I really hope none of this North Korea sanctions nonsense affects trade with China and this GB.
Sorry but I couldn't give a exact date at this moment, but I'm sure that EVE's doing his best to for the GB.
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 26 September 2017, 13:48:46
Post by: rioc on Tue, 26 September 2017, 16:56:45
but, **** **** stack I should've taken military green case bottom, would have looked bomb with light gray top... but can't have all, gonna stick with what I went with :)
Post by: swangful on Tue, 26 September 2017, 20:04:40
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 26 September 2017, 22:48:22
Does the anodized finish leave fingerprints? :O
shouldn't... it's ano
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 27 September 2017, 10:37:39
WOW... can't wait...
but, **** **** stack I should've taken military green case bottom, would have looked bomb with light gray top... but can't have all, gonna stick with what I went with :)
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) check that order sheet, bruh
Post by: rioc on Wed, 27 September 2017, 10:40:57
WOW... can't wait...
but, **** **** stack I should've taken military green case bottom, would have looked bomb with light gray top... but can't have all, gonna stick with what I went with :)
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) check that order sheet, bruh
I did... gonna stick with the light gray top, ink black bottom... just wish I had enough cash to have gotten two and made the second one military green ;)
Post by: swangful on Wed, 04 October 2017, 19:19:52
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 04 October 2017, 20:40:37
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Post by: stand.geek on Fri, 06 October 2017, 11:42:58
I dunno if this has been asked before but how long is the spacebar in the wkl version of this board? 6.25u or 7u? Preparing the keycaps that are going on this bad boy when it comes in
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Pretty sure it is 7u
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 06 October 2017, 14:00:25
I dunno if this has been asked before but how long is the spacebar in the wkl version of this board? 6.25u or 7u? Preparing the keycaps that are going on this bad boy when it comes in
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it's 7u
Post by: DillonHightower on Sat, 07 October 2017, 19:48:34
I dunno if this has been asked before but how long is the spacebar in the wkl version of this board? 6.25u or 7u? Preparing the keycaps that are going on this bad boy when it comes in
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it's 7u
That is a real ****ing drag...... I bought hammer space-bar for the carbon set for this board. I bought the 6.25u not thinking about how it would be different with the wkl version.. FML!!!
Post by: avid on Sat, 07 October 2017, 19:51:35
I dunno if this has been asked before but how long is the spacebar in the wkl version of this board? 6.25u or 7u? Preparing the keycaps that are going on this bad boy when it comes in
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it's 7u
That is a real ****ing drag...... I bought hammer space-bar for the carbon set for this board. I bought the 6.25u not thinking about how it would be different with the wkl version.. FML!!!
Just hit up mechmarket and try trading it. I'm sure people did the other way around.
Post by: DillonHightower on Sat, 07 October 2017, 20:08:16
Post by: neralo on Sat, 07 October 2017, 22:24:58
I dunno if this has been asked before but how long is the spacebar in the wkl version of this board? 6.25u or 7u? Preparing the keycaps that are going on this bad boy when it comes in
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it's 7u
Thanks Puddsy (and Stand.geek too)
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Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 08 October 2017, 11:22:11
Post by: xondat on Sun, 08 October 2017, 11:22:55
Any updates?
Mid Autumn festival ends today so updates with meaning will most likely be early next week.
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 08 October 2017, 11:23:40
Any updates?
Mid Autumn festival ends today so updates with meaning will most likely be early next week.
Ah, that's right. Thanks for the reminder, xondat.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 09 October 2017, 03:49:03
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 09 October 2017, 06:01:29
Oh ****, didn't realise that either and got a 6.25x space bar made already. i assumed wkl would be same layout just with the win keys Blocked out
You could do this
(https://i.imgur.com/cbYTyl5.jpg)
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 09 October 2017, 16:00:29
Oh ****, didn't realise that either and got a 6.25x space bar made already. i assumed wkl would be same layout just with the win keys Blocked out
You could do thisShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/cbYTyl5.jpg)
That is a good idea actually.. Thanks for the input..
On a side note, Anyone have any word if the PCB will take hotitles for the switch and leds?
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 10 October 2017, 00:12:16
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 10 October 2017, 00:23:45
Since this batch is delayed by others anyway, is there any remote chance of changing from winkeyless to winkeyed still?
production has already begun, so i'd say probably not. you might have luck asking for a swap with someone who got the same color, though
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 10 October 2017, 09:52:11
'Oh ****, didn't realise that either and got a 6.25x space bar made already. i assumed wkl would be same layout just with the win keys Blocked out
You could do thisShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/cbYTyl5.jpg)
I'm going for all metal keys which is why the unusual bottom row is going to be a bigger pain than usual. It's not like there are an abundance of affordable metal cap options. Hopefully something can be done like you suggested with a 6.25x space and whatever other combination of 1x / 1.25 / 1.5 / whatever modifiers needed to stay looking regal.
Post by: Helldrop on Fri, 13 October 2017, 21:52:52
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 13 October 2017, 22:24:57
Any updates? I wonder when the Moon will rise.
Nobody's been able to get in touch with EVE.
It's normal for him, so I wouldn't stress.
He'll probably bulk update when he send the MIRAs out.
Post by: DillonHightower on Wed, 18 October 2017, 00:11:54
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 18 October 2017, 08:38:42
https://i.imgur.com/KC19Ldv.jpg
I know it's too late to change colours anyway, but was there any reason this wasn't available when it's used on other models?
Post by: swangful on Fri, 20 October 2017, 17:36:33
Here we are nearing the end of the month. Any type of time frame update would be great. It is obvious that it is not going to make it by the end of the month, but an ETA would be great!
Just follow MIRAs GB. We are probably going to come after E8/MIRA :(
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 20 October 2017, 18:54:37
Here we are nearing the end of the month. Any type of time frame update would be great. It is obvious that it is not going to make it by the end of the month, but an ETA would be great!
Just follow MIRAs GB. We are probably going to come after E8/MIRA :(
moon slotted in after mira, they are one after the other
Post by: nathanchere on Sat, 28 October 2017, 04:40:28
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 28 October 2017, 13:51:31
Is there a link or something from the Chinese group buy or anything where we can also see what's happening instead of "are we there yet" here?
Unless you know anything about qq, not really.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 30 October 2017, 11:18:09
EVE recently moved his shop, and seems to now be in production again on stuff. Expect movement on this soon.
Post by: lanyusea on Mon, 30 October 2017, 11:33:32
Is there a link or something from the Chinese group buy or anything where we can also see what's happening instead of "are we there yet" here?
hmm.. can I say: there are already many in the Chinese /r/mm to prove "the keebs are there already" ?
https://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=560090952772
https://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=560429316042
https://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=560731978534
Post by: DillonHightower on Thu, 02 November 2017, 09:20:42
Post by: afrokobe on Thu, 02 November 2017, 09:35:29
Moon with blockers. What size of space bar do I need??? 6.25 or 7u ? I remember puddsy saying 7u but just making sure.7u
Post by: Badmotorfinger on Thu, 02 November 2017, 23:53:39
Post by: swangful on Fri, 03 November 2017, 00:42:14
Just to be sure...the wkl version is 7u and the winkeyed version 6.25? or are both 7u? Thanks.
WKL = 7u
Winkey = 6.25
Post by: rioc on Fri, 03 November 2017, 07:23:50
Just to be sure...the wkl version is 7u and the winkeyed version 6.25? or are both 7u? Thanks.
actually, they both work with both editions, but 7U just looks so much better on the WKL version
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sat, 04 November 2017, 23:04:04
First of all, an apology for lack of updates recently. EVE is just working hard on Mira SE orders. There was some difficulties working on the anodizing. It's taking a much longer time than expected. We got that going already so Moon production will resume as soon as that wraps up. Meanwhile, I really appreciates that the community is helping out each other when I'm absent. :p
Enough of that, as for Moon, the CNC part is finished and the boards are being polished and getting ready for anodizing. Please find some raw Moon board from the link below :) You will also see some pics of brass plates as well, they look pretty nice to me :thumb:
https://imgur.com/a/TdTaT
Post by: Unforgivable on Sat, 04 November 2017, 23:41:46
Hi guys,
First of all, an apology for lack of updates recently. EVE is just working hard on Mira SE orders. There was some difficulties working on the anodizing. It's taking a much longer time than expected. We got that going already so Moon production will resume as soon as that wraps up. Meanwhile, I really appreciates that the community is helping out each other when I'm absent. :p
Enough of that, as for Moon, the CNC part is finished and the boards are being polished and getting ready for anodizing. Please find some raw Moon board from the link below :) You will also see some pics of brass plates as well, they look pretty nice to me :thumb:
https://imgur.com/a/TdTaT
Simply beautiful.
Thank you for sharing, Jay. You rock.
Post by: Kavik on Sun, 05 November 2017, 01:03:55
Hi guys,
First of all, an apology for lack of updates recently. EVE is just working hard on Mira SE orders. There was some difficulties working on the anodizing. It's taking a much longer time than expected. We got that going already so Moon production will resume as soon as that wraps up. Meanwhile, I really appreciates that the community is helping out each other when I'm absent. :p
Enough of that, as for Moon, the CNC part is finished and the boards are being polished and getting ready for anodizing. Please find some raw Moon board from the link below :) You will also see some pics of brass plates as well, they look pretty nice to me :thumb:
https://imgur.com/a/TdTaT
Amazing! Thanks for the update. It's nice to see things coming along!
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 05 November 2017, 01:05:25
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 05 November 2017, 01:14:02
Does this mean MIRA updates soon?
Silver orders will go out first probably the rest follows shortly after
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Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 05 November 2017, 01:28:28
Does this mean MIRA updates soon?
Silver orders will go out first probably the rest follows shortly after
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oh ****, that means i should get mine soon
NICE
Post by: poolside on Sun, 05 November 2017, 06:23:28
Hi guys,
First of all, an apology for lack of updates recently. EVE is just working hard on Mira SE orders. There was some difficulties working on the anodizing. It's taking a much longer time than expected. We got that going already so Moon production will resume as soon as that wraps up. Meanwhile, I really appreciates that the community is helping out each other when I'm absent. :p
Enough of that, as for Moon, the CNC part is finished and the boards are being polished and getting ready for anodizing. Please find some raw Moon board from the link below :) You will also see some pics of brass plates as well, they look pretty nice to me :thumb:
https://imgur.com/a/TdTaT
Thanks for these pics. The moon phases weight looks delightfully flush with the case. :thumb:
I thought for a while that the MOON logo on the backside of the boards had been removed but the "cuts" (not sure what to call that) for the stripes are not there either.
Post by: Helldrop on Sun, 05 November 2017, 10:08:05
Hi guys,
First of all, an apology for lack of updates recently. EVE is just working hard on Mira SE orders. There was some difficulties working on the anodizing. It's taking a much longer time than expected. We got that going already so Moon production will resume as soon as that wraps up. Meanwhile, I really appreciates that the community is helping out each other when I'm absent. :p
Enough of that, as for Moon, the CNC part is finished and the boards are being polished and getting ready for anodizing. Please find some raw Moon board from the link below :) You will also see some pics of brass plates as well, they look pretty nice to me :thumb:
https://imgur.com/a/TdTaT
Glad to see some updates. I’m looking forward to meeting the Moon as soon as possible.
Can’t wait!
Post by: Badmotorfinger on Sun, 05 November 2017, 13:39:08
Hi guys,
First of all, an apology for lack of updates recently. EVE is just working hard on Mira SE orders. There was some difficulties working on the anodizing. It's taking a much longer time than expected. We got that going already so Moon production will resume as soon as that wraps up. Meanwhile, I really appreciates that the community is helping out each other when I'm absent. :p
Enough of that, as for Moon, the CNC part is finished and the boards are being polished and getting ready for anodizing. Please find some raw Moon board from the link below :) You will also see some pics of brass plates as well, they look pretty nice to me :thumb:
https://imgur.com/a/TdTaT
Thanks for these pics. The moon phases weight looks delightfully flush with the case. :thumb:
I thought for a while that the MOON logo on the backside of the boards had been removed but the "cuts" (not sure what to call that) for the stripes are not there either.
Goood eye. I guess the CNC process isn’t done then? Or those pics were taken before the CNC part was finished.
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Post by: metalliccharles on Sun, 05 November 2017, 18:21:08
Post by: rioc on Mon, 06 November 2017, 01:47:45
Post by: SBN on Mon, 06 November 2017, 01:48:55
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Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:58:26
Hi guys,
First of all, an apology for lack of updates recently. EVE is just working hard on Mira SE orders. There was some difficulties working on the anodizing. It's taking a much longer time than expected. We got that going already so Moon production will resume as soon as that wraps up. Meanwhile, I really appreciates that the community is helping out each other when I'm absent. :p
Enough of that, as for Moon, the CNC part is finished and the boards are being polished and getting ready for anodizing. Please find some raw Moon board from the link below :) You will also see some pics of brass plates as well, they look pretty nice to me :thumb:
https://imgur.com/a/TdTaT
Thanks for these pics. The moon phases weight looks delightfully flush with the case. :thumb:
I thought for a while that the MOON logo on the backside of the boards had been removed but the "cuts" (not sure what to call that) for the stripes are not there either.
Goood eye. I guess the CNC process isn’t done then? Or those pics were taken before the CNC part was finished.
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I am also wondering this.There are pictures of the group by going around on Taobaoa As a finished product and It does not have the back Plates on the board.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:59:41
Post by: Badmotorfinger on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:12:25
Hi guys,
First of all, an apology for lack of updates recently. EVE is just working hard on Mira SE orders. There was some difficulties working on the anodizing. It's taking a much longer time than expected. We got that going already so Moon production will resume as soon as that wraps up. Meanwhile, I really appreciates that the community is helping out each other when I'm absent. :p
Enough of that, as for Moon, the CNC part is finished and the boards are being polished and getting ready for anodizing. Please find some raw Moon board from the link below :) You will also see some pics of brass plates as well, they look pretty nice to me :thumb:
https://imgur.com/a/TdTaT
Thanks for these pics. The moon phases weight looks delightfully flush with the case. :thumb:
I thought for a while that the MOON logo on the backside of the boards had been removed but the "cuts" (not sure what to call that) for the stripes are not there either.
Goood eye. I guess the CNC process isn’t done then? Or those pics were taken before the CNC part was finished.
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I am also wondering this.There are pictures of the group by going around on Taobaoa As a finished product and It does not have the back Plates on the board.
Well someone posted this link a few posts above and these definitely have the logo and stripes.
https://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=560731978534
So that's a good sign considering the logo and stripes are pretty much the main feature of the board. Hopefully we wont have to late too much longer before seeing some updated pictures.
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 06 November 2017, 20:49:15
Hi guys,
First of all, an apology for lack of updates recently. EVE is just working hard on Mira SE orders. There was some difficulties working on the anodizing. It's taking a much longer time than expected. We got that going already so Moon production will resume as soon as that wraps up. Meanwhile, I really appreciates that the community is helping out each other when I'm absent. :p
Enough of that, as for Moon, the CNC part is finished and the boards are being polished and getting ready for anodizing. Please find some raw Moon board from the link below :) You will also see some pics of brass plates as well, they look pretty nice to me :thumb:
https://imgur.com/a/TdTaT
Thanks for these pics. The moon phases weight looks delightfully flush with the case. :thumb:
I thought for a while that the MOON logo on the backside of the boards had been removed but the "cuts" (not sure what to call that) for the stripes are not there either.
Goood eye. I guess the CNC process isn’t done then? Or those pics were taken before the CNC part was finished.
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I am also wondering this.There are pictures of the group by going around on Taobaoa As a finished product and It does not have the back Plates on the board.
Well someone posted this link a few posts above and these definitely have the logo and stripes.
https://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=560731978534
So that's a good sign considering the logo and stripes are pretty much the main feature of the board. Hopefully we wont have to late too much longer before seeing some updated pictures.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.w4004-8936611708.9.1f36147eE91hMA&id=548924763049
This is what I am referring to. As you can see in the pics, there is no logo or strips. SO one of 3 things is going on here.
The machining is not done and they are trying to perceive that production is further along than it is. Or there are 2 different versions of the board being offered. OR perhaps an 3rd string of boards just for the Japanese market with less options. Either way the pics up above from ZZ show a box full of strips and in the same group of pics no cutouts for them.. So that is where my slight confusion comes from. ALSO no logo on the back. I mean if CNC is done. than that means no logo and no strips...
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 06 November 2017, 20:50:20
Those photos are the prototype, not a GB board.
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:02:30
That's a placeholder for the actual group buy, which has already run. You can tell by the price.
Those photos are the prototype, not a GB board.
That makes sense.
Please feel free to make sense of the Finished CNC of the photos that ZZ posted but clearly needs more work ?
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:12:15
That's a placeholder for the actual group buy, which has already run. You can tell by the price.
Those photos are the prototype, not a GB board.
That makes sense.
Please feel free to make sense of the Finished CNC of the photos that ZZ posted but clearly needs more work ?
China's buy is already shipped. They were not run in tandem.
Their group buy was run about 6 weeks before this one, that's why the weights are bars, and not cutouts. They had to change the logo, but the CNC had already started. It was the last keyboard EVE did before he moved his shop, which is what the MIRA/Moon delay is being caused by.
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:30:49
That's a placeholder for the actual group buy, which has already run. You can tell by the price.
Those photos are the prototype, not a GB board.
That makes sense.
Please feel free to make sense of the Finished CNC of the photos that ZZ posted but clearly needs more work ?
China's buy is already shipped. They were not run in tandem.
Their group buy was run about 6 weeks before this one, that's why the weights are bars, and not cutouts. They had to change the logo, but the CNC had already started. It was the last keyboard EVE did before he moved his shop, which is what the MIRA/Moon delay is being caused by.
Ok, Now I see. That is to bad I do like the China Logo better , But I do like our weights better.
Post by: swangful on Tue, 07 November 2017, 12:26:51
Post by: DillonHightower on Thu, 09 November 2017, 14:11:34
Are we looking okay to get shipments out by the end of the year?
no looking good....
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 09 November 2017, 15:03:16
Are we looking okay to get shipments out by the end of the year?
Depends on when MIRA goes out. Too early to make a solid judgement.
Post by: DillonHightower on Fri, 10 November 2017, 23:17:58
Are we looking okay to get shipments out by the end of the year?
Depends on when MIRA goes out. Too early to make a solid judgement.
Considering MIRA has a ways to go before it is even shipped, We will be lucky to see this board before end of January. Love the board, but wondering if tkl is even for me. I may buy something else in the meantime, especially with all the 1800s getting ready..
Post by: jb1830 on Sat, 11 November 2017, 09:49:20
Are we looking okay to get shipments out by the end of the year?
Depends on when MIRA goes out. Too early to make a solid judgement.
Bummer. If this doesn't go out before the holidays I'm not gonna have a solid address for it to ship to :(
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 13 November 2017, 01:59:36
Bummer. If this doesn't go out before the holidays I'm not gonna have a solid address for it to ship to :(Likewise for me if it doesn't happen (as in arrive/delivered) by mid-January at the absolute latest.
Post by: nathanchere on Sun, 26 November 2017, 13:49:11
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 26 November 2017, 15:45:27
Still nothing from EVE? Because soon it will be Christmas period, then Chinese New Year, then we're into Q2 2018 for delivery.
Watch to see when MIRA ships.
Post by: Undergroundflaw on Tue, 28 November 2017, 10:27:12
Also, that matching numpad for Mira looks pretty awesome, any possibility of Moon getting a matching one down the road?
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 28 November 2017, 21:23:35
Looks like Mira is gonna be shipping soon, so Moon should be right around the corner!
Also, that matching numpad for Mira looks pretty awesome, any possibility of Moon getting a matching one down the road?
Hmmm I'd say that's a good question, I could talk too EVE and see if he has any intention to make a matching numpad.
Since we are on the moon, I'll just throw up some CNC ready moon pics as some of you wondered where are the logo and arrow from the last update..
(https://imgur.com/DCpZFeO.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/xIVxKZa.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/ke6zGsh.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/BeyKnwh.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/lDAO4Wt.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/hHGrtlg.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/pWkKJhz.jpg)
Link is here in case the pics didn't load for you: https://imgur.com/a/6Q2G0
Post by: swangful on Tue, 28 November 2017, 22:59:37
Post by: Kavik on Wed, 29 November 2017, 16:47:41
For what it's worth, I would definitely be interested in a matching numpad in the future.
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 29 November 2017, 18:07:05
Post by: FioraCorp on Wed, 29 November 2017, 18:25:13
Post by: stand.geek on Wed, 29 November 2017, 20:52:22
Post by: DillonHightower on Wed, 29 November 2017, 22:59:38
+1 for the numpad. insta-buy for me
+1 matching numpad for my keeb would be really choice and an instant get.
Nice man! +1 for the numpad
+1 on number pad as well. It is a must for a tkl on my end and matching would be awesome. Currently have a revo and i know it will not match at all. Would love this combo..
Post by: metalliccharles on Wed, 29 November 2017, 23:44:10
Post by: Aperture_Sci on Thu, 30 November 2017, 00:09:48
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 30 November 2017, 00:14:22
Hey zzyjayfree, any extras? I know its super annoying in a thread when someone asks however, "You miss 100% of the shots you dont take - Michael Scott."
already said there won't be any
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 01 December 2017, 11:24:21
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 01 December 2017, 11:57:14
Did we ever find out if the PCB is holtite compatible? I found a question asking about it on the old GB thread, but I didn't see an answer. Apologies if this has already been answered.
Won't know until it shows up
Post by: DillonHightower on Fri, 01 December 2017, 21:33:43
Did we ever find out if the PCB is holtite compatible? I found a question asking about it on the old GB thread, but I didn't see an answer. Apologies if this has already been answered.
I would like to know this as well. I know the china gb has shipped . Someone has to have answers by now.
Post by: poolside on Sat, 02 December 2017, 09:08:43
Looks like Mira is gonna be shipping soon, so Moon should be right around the corner!
Also, that matching numpad for Mira looks pretty awesome, any possibility of Moon getting a matching one down the road?
Hmmm I'd say that's a good question, I could talk too EVE and see if he has any intention to make a matching numpad.
Since we are on the moon, I'll just throw up some CNC ready moon pics as some of you wondered where are the logo and arrow from the last update..Show Image(https://imgur.com/DCpZFeO.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/xIVxKZa.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/ke6zGsh.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/BeyKnwh.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/lDAO4Wt.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hHGrtlg.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/pWkKJhz.jpg)
Link is here in case the pics didn't load for you: https://imgur.com/a/6Q2G0
Thanks for these tasty manufacturing pics :thumb:
Interested in a matching numpad as well.
Post by: jb1830 on Mon, 04 December 2017, 13:20:56
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Post by: Pendylan on Fri, 08 December 2017, 15:55:32
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 11 December 2017, 00:12:21
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 11 December 2017, 14:09:43
I would have probably been in for a 'moonpad' if the moon case had an extra hole for daisychaining the USB cables.
something like this requires more than just a hole for a usb plug. the pcb would have to be designed to include a hub. its not a very common feature of keyboards, even among those mass-produced
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 12 December 2017, 07:43:09
Yeah of course if the case was designed with the second hole you would assume the PCB also supports the second USB port :)I would have probably been in for a 'moonpad' if the moon case had an extra hole for daisychaining the USB cables.
something like this requires more than just a hole for a usb plug. the pcb would have to be designed to include a hub. its not a very common feature of keyboards, even among those mass-produced
Post by: Helldrop on Tue, 12 December 2017, 09:23:57
Satisfying on the surface.
http://www.zfrontier.com/equip/969
Post by: rioc on Tue, 12 December 2017, 09:42:08
I found some reviews of the Moon written by Chinese.
Satisfying on the surface.
http://www.zfrontier.com/equip/969 (http://www.zfrontier.com/equip/969)
man... that CN edition Moon logo is to die for! Want that one so much...
Post by: gaiden on Tue, 12 December 2017, 10:04:20
I found some reviews of the Moon written by Chinese.Wow, didn't know my weight made it to the CN Edition too
Satisfying on the surface.
http://www.zfrontier.com/equip/969
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Post by: Eggplant on Tue, 12 December 2017, 14:34:48
I found some reviews of the Moon written by Chinese.
Satisfying on the surface.
http://www.zfrontier.com/equip/969 (http://www.zfrontier.com/equip/969)
man... that CN edition Moon logo is to die for! Want that one so much...
You and me both, everytime I see it, it looks better. I feel ours looks clunky in comparison. :(
Post by: afrokobe on Tue, 12 December 2017, 15:41:47
Post by: swangful on Thu, 14 December 2017, 12:34:43
Post by: metalliccharles on Thu, 14 December 2017, 12:56:06
With EVE just starting to ship MIRA, it doesn't seem like we will have our board before chinese new year which means we may not see our boards still March/April? Does that sound about right...?
Damn holidays killin me >:D Spring 2018 going to be 🔥🔥🔥!
Post by: Helldrop on Thu, 14 December 2017, 16:07:54
With EVE just starting to ship MIRA, it doesn't seem like we will have our board before chinese new year which means we may not see our boards still March/April? Does that sound about right...?I heard this Chinese holiday will last for 7 days in the middle of February.
It seems to have little effect on the schedule.
Post by: lzlzh035 on Fri, 15 December 2017, 02:19:05
Chinese here. Can confirmWith EVE just starting to ship MIRA, it doesn't seem like we will have our board before chinese new year which means we may not see our boards still March/April? Does that sound about right...?I heard this Chinese holiday will last for 7 days in the middle of February.
It seems to have little effect on the schedule.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Mon, 18 December 2017, 10:32:44
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 18 December 2017, 17:10:43
Anyone interested in sawpping their WK top for a WKL in light grey colour?
FYI: IIRC, Jay said at one point tops and bottoms aren't interchangeable because each keyboard's top and bottom are individually fitted to each other. That's why multiple colors of one side were not allowed on the form.
Post by: Jubileus on Wed, 20 December 2017, 00:27:06
Post by: DillonHightower on Sun, 31 December 2017, 03:12:44
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:40:37
Post by: metalliccharles on Sun, 31 December 2017, 22:18:06
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 01 January 2018, 11:20:33
Talked to EVE yesterday and he said Moon boards are now been anodized. He will provide pics on Tuesday as Monday is New year. I'll update as soon as I have the picsBest new years news ever
Post by: jb1830 on Mon, 01 January 2018, 12:23:18
Talked to EVE yesterday and he said Moon boards are now been anodized. He will provide pics on Tuesday as Monday is New year. I'll update as soon as I have the pics
Thanks for the update! Look forward to some pics.
Post by: Helldrop on Tue, 02 January 2018, 13:38:05
Talked to EVE yesterday and he said Moon boards are now been anodized. He will provide pics on Tuesday as Monday is New year. I'll update as soon as I have the pics
Thanks for the updates.
Can’t wait. My nixies are waiting for the Moon!
Post by: swangful on Tue, 02 January 2018, 13:46:49
Hopefully before Chinese new year though T-T
Post by: jb1830 on Wed, 03 January 2018, 20:49:41
MIRA boards are arriving...our time is coming :D
Hopefully before Chinese new year though T-T
Don't jinx it!
Post by: janglad on Sat, 06 January 2018, 14:59:14
(https://i.imgur.com/cSCZyH7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JQcADQD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Qvh6h5S.jpg)
I have been having some issues with programming tho. Kingnestea gave me the matrix code to use but some keys like F4 also trigger insert now? Any chance there could be a quick tutorial made for this? :)
Post by: jb1830 on Sat, 06 January 2018, 15:35:22
Don't mean to make you pour waiting souls jealous, but I got this beauty in a couple of weeks ago. Found the time to build it last week and now finally have a moment to do some typing on it! :thumb: Some quick phone pics:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cSCZyH7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JQcADQD.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Qvh6h5S.jpg)
I have been having some issues with programming tho. Kingnestea gave me the matrix code to use but some keys like F4 also trigger insert now? Any chance there could be a quick tutorial made for this? :)
(https://i.imgur.com/0w5UAMX.gif)
Very nice! So excited for ours to ship soon. Hope your programming issue gets resolved.
ZZ any updated pics come thru from Eve yet?
Post by: janglad on Sat, 06 January 2018, 15:45:06
Don't mean to make you pour waiting souls jealous, but I got this beauty in a couple of weeks ago. Found the time to build it last week and now finally have a moment to do some typing on it! :thumb: Some quick phone pics:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cSCZyH7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JQcADQD.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Qvh6h5S.jpg)
I have been having some issues with programming tho. Kingnestea gave me the matrix code to use but some keys like F4 also trigger insert now? Any chance there could be a quick tutorial made for this? :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0w5UAMX.gif)
Very nice! So excited for ours to ship soon. Hope your programming issue gets resolved.
ZZ any updated pics come thru from Eve yet?
To be clear, I didn't get this from this GB. I got it via via from the Chinese GB (hence why I also have the old logo) :)
Sadly the guy shipping this didn't tighten a plate screw nearly enough, which came lose during shipping and scratched up my board next to the F1 key :| EVE was nice enough to offer to fix it though even tho I didn't get it from the GB :)
Post by: Kavik on Sat, 06 January 2018, 15:51:36
Don't mean to make you pour waiting souls jealous, but I got this beauty in a couple of weeks ago. Found the time to build it last week and now finally have a moment to do some typing on it! :thumb: Some quick phone pics:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cSCZyH7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JQcADQD.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Qvh6h5S.jpg)
I have been having some issues with programming tho. Kingnestea gave me the matrix code to use but some keys like F4 also trigger insert now? Any chance there could be a quick tutorial made for this? :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0w5UAMX.gif)
Very nice! So excited for ours to ship soon. Hope your programming issue gets resolved.
ZZ any updated pics come thru from Eve yet?
To be clear, I didn't get this from this GB. I got it via via from the Chinese GB (hence why I also have the old logo) :)
Sadly the guy shipping this didn't tighten a plate screw nearly enough, which came lose during shipping and scratched up my board next to the F1 key :| EVE was nice enough to offer to fix it though even tho I didn't get it from the GB :)
Did you get assembly service, or are these all shipped partially assembled? Btw, it looks fantastic.
Post by: janglad on Sat, 06 January 2018, 15:56:55
Don't mean to make you pour waiting souls jealous, but I got this beauty in a couple of weeks ago. Found the time to build it last week and now finally have a moment to do some typing on it! :thumb: Some quick phone pics:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cSCZyH7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JQcADQD.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Qvh6h5S.jpg)
I have been having some issues with programming tho. Kingnestea gave me the matrix code to use but some keys like F4 also trigger insert now? Any chance there could be a quick tutorial made for this? :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0w5UAMX.gif)
Very nice! So excited for ours to ship soon. Hope your programming issue gets resolved.
ZZ any updated pics come thru from Eve yet?
To be clear, I didn't get this from this GB. I got it via via from the Chinese GB (hence why I also have the old logo) :)
Sadly the guy shipping this didn't tighten a plate screw nearly enough, which came lose during shipping and scratched up my board next to the F1 key :| EVE was nice enough to offer to fix it though even tho I didn't get it from the GB :)
Did you get assembly service, or are these all shipped partially assembled? Btw, it looks fantastic.
I soldered it together myself, yes :) I'm not sure if I'll keep it like this tho, I'm thinking I could maybe get this ceracoated gray and orange and put SA Carbon on here :cool:
Post by: poolside on Sat, 06 January 2018, 17:13:28
Post by: janglad on Sat, 06 January 2018, 17:50:22
Is there a breakout thing for the USB connector? In your pics it seems to be located very low compared to other boards.There is indeed!
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Post by: jnav on Sat, 06 January 2018, 19:54:14
Don't mean to make you pour waiting souls jealous, but I got this beauty in a couple of weeks ago. Found the time to build it last week and now finally have a moment to do some typing on it! :thumb: Some quick phone pics:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cSCZyH7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JQcADQD.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Qvh6h5S.jpg)
I have been having some issues with programming tho. Kingnestea gave me the matrix code to use but some keys like F4 also trigger insert now? Any chance there could be a quick tutorial made for this? :)
Duuuude....
Post by: Manticzeus on Sat, 06 January 2018, 21:36:33
Post by: poolside on Sun, 07 January 2018, 04:20:59
Is there a breakout thing for the USB connector? In your pics it seems to be located very low compared to other boards.There is indeed!
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Thanks, any pics on hand?
Post by: janglad on Sun, 07 January 2018, 04:23:44
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180107/93e03451848da7d365cbfc74ae3fa135.jpg)Is there a breakout thing for the USB connector? In your pics it seems to be located very low compared to other boards.There is indeed!
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Thanks, any pics on hand?
Here’s one I took of it before building.
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Post by: poolside on Sun, 07 January 2018, 07:43:02
The Revo & Dr.D TKL used a XH2.54 connector pair for the USB cable (pic here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84328.msg2393839#msg2393839).
Post by: janglad on Sun, 07 January 2018, 07:45:44
Thanks. Did you have to solder these wires straight to the PCB yourself or did the bundle include another connector to attach them to?I had to solder them to the PCB. I had some issues at first since I first tried to solder them to the holes for what normally would be the USB connector, but then I realised there were some larger and labeled holes below it
The Revo & Dr.D TKL used a XH2.54 connector pair for the USB cable (pic here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84328.msg2393839#msg2393839).
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Post by: poolside on Sun, 07 January 2018, 07:58:46
Post by: janglad on Sun, 07 January 2018, 08:02:54
Thanks for these details. Maybe there will be room on the PCB to put of one those removable connectors.It could be that these holes were actually meant for that, but TBH soldering on the connector was pretty easy once I knew how.
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Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 08 January 2018, 08:41:20
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Mon, 08 January 2018, 09:47:30
Patients can only take you so far.
Yeah, you're right. They are sick and all, I'm sure they would need to break for a rest.
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 08 January 2018, 10:06:09
:raughs:Patients can only take you so far.
Yeah, you're right. They are sick and all, I'm sure they would need to break for a rest.
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 08 January 2018, 21:34:46
I asked for update numerous times but EVE told me that he had to get some boards back for more polishing before anodizing. All I get were two pics of polished boards on floor and I didn’t want to give this sh**ty update until I have better ones. But here it goes. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/97f3bcec2e7a2a33a3c749e577f22145.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/88fd11154ec8014a6963b43004241439.jpg)I know this is probably nothing. I’ll talk to EVE this week and ask for what exactly his plan is for the GB and let you guys know.
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 09 January 2018, 07:53:05
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 09 January 2018, 13:06:45
Post by: swangful on Tue, 09 January 2018, 13:45:43
Yep you were right definitely a let down. I along with many others I imagine , was hoping this project would be a little further along. Pretty much the same progress from two months ago , just laid out differently. I guess we can expect this in another couple months if we are lucky ..
Sadly, probably true. I'll be optimistic if we can get it by March/April.
Post by: metalliccharles on Fri, 12 January 2018, 09:55:18
Post by: rioc on Mon, 22 January 2018, 01:58:52
got my hands on a CN version and considering on swapping the top parts
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 22 January 2018, 10:19:31
anyone know if the CN Edition Top Case part will fit on the international edition seemlessly?
got my hands on a CN version and considering on swapping the top parts
no, it won't
each part has to be finished to fit a specific bottom, since the shape is so complicated
no moons can have case parts swapped, as far as i know
Post by: rioc on Mon, 22 January 2018, 10:22:28
anyone know if the CN Edition Top Case part will fit on the international edition seemlessly?
got my hands on a CN version and considering on swapping the top parts
no, it won't
each part has to be finished to fit a specific bottom, since the shape is so complicated
no moons can have case parts swapped, as far as i know
ok, fair enough... guessed as much. I'll probably still try once I've got both to see how much off it would be, but I won't be planning with it to work then ;)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 22 January 2018, 10:30:24
anyone know if the CN Edition Top Case part will fit on the international edition seemlessly?
got my hands on a CN version and considering on swapping the top parts
no, it won't
each part has to be finished to fit a specific bottom, since the shape is so complicated
no moons can have case parts swapped, as far as i know
ok, fair enough... guessed as much. I'll probably still try once I've got both to see how much off it would be, but I won't be planning with it to work then ;)
i think the anodizing finish will also be noticably different, but you'll have to wait until it shows up to be sure
Post by: rioc on Mon, 22 January 2018, 10:40:02
yeah :)anyone know if the CN Edition Top Case part will fit on the international edition seemlessly?
got my hands on a CN version and considering on swapping the top parts
no, it won't
each part has to be finished to fit a specific bottom, since the shape is so complicated
no moons can have case parts swapped, as far as i know
ok, fair enough... guessed as much. I'll probably still try once I've got both to see how much off it would be, but I won't be planning with it to work then ;)
i think the anodizing finish will also be noticably different, but you'll have to wait until it shows up to be sure
Post by: swangful on Mon, 22 January 2018, 12:28:44
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 22 January 2018, 22:25:00
(https://imgur.com/VnkucOu.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/RsnwAdz.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/CJKao7h.jpg)
I'm sorry to see one people decided to take a refund. I totally understand it, it's been dragged long. But I ask the rest of you guys to be patient as the end result for Mira SE turned out to be satisfying. EVE wouldn't let you down with the Moon.
Meanwhile I'll keep following up with EVE regularly. Wish I can be in factory 24/7 in person :p
Post by: Jhors2 on Mon, 22 January 2018, 22:35:39
This should be good: anodizing is officially in process
I'm sorry to see one people decided to take a refund. I totally understand it, it's been dragged long. But I ask the rest of you guys to be patient as the end result for Mira SE turned out to be satisfying. EVE wouldn't let you down with the Moon.
Meanwhile I'll keep following up with EVE regularly. Wish I can be in factory 24/7 in person :p
Any chance you will sell the spot zzjayfree? I'd be interested if so.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 22 January 2018, 23:29:00
This should be good: anodizing is officially in process
I'm sorry to see one people decided to take a refund. I totally understand it, it's been dragged long. But I ask the rest of you guys to be patient as the end result for Mira SE turned out to be satisfying. EVE wouldn't let you down with the Moon.
Meanwhile I'll keep following up with EVE regularly. Wish I can be in factory 24/7 in person :p
Any chance you will sell the spot zzjayfree? I'd be interested if so.
I'll probably post the order when the anodizing is done. Nothing for certain for now.
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 22 January 2018, 23:47:50
This should be good: anodizing is officially in processShow Image(https://imgur.com/VnkucOu.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/RsnwAdz.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/CJKao7h.jpg)
I'm sorry to see one people decided to take a refund. I totally understand it, it's been dragged long. But I ask the rest of you guys to be patient as the end result for Mira SE turned out to be satisfying. EVE wouldn't let you down with the Moon.
Meanwhile I'll keep following up with EVE regularly. Wish I can be in factory 24/7 in person :p
Oh, man, those are beautiful. I just saw that BOX Navy switches are back in stock and ordered some of those to go in this baby. Good day of updates!
Post by: janglad on Tue, 23 January 2018, 03:25:57
How will the ano be different? I’m curious since I have a Chinese one.anyone know if the CN Edition Top Case part will fit on the international edition seemlessly?
got my hands on a CN version and considering on swapping the top parts
no, it won't
each part has to be finished to fit a specific bottom, since the shape is so complicated
no moons can have case parts swapped, as far as i know
ok, fair enough... guessed as much. I'll probably still try once I've got both to see how much off it would be, but I won't be planning with it to work then ;)
i think the anodizing finish will also be noticably different, but you'll have to wait until it shows up to be sure
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Post by: Krytone on Wed, 24 January 2018, 19:53:01
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 24 January 2018, 19:56:10
I just hope the delay is not because of EVE taking on more keyboard GB/IC than trying to finish this off first. Cause i think i already saw 2 or 3 thread thats going to be done by him with alot shorter timeline than this GB which i dunno if feasible.
nah, boards get made in order, not all at once
that's why the lead time has increased over the last year
How will the ano be different? I’m curious since I have a Chinese one.anyone know if the CN Edition Top Case part will fit on the international edition seemlessly?
got my hands on a CN version and considering on swapping the top parts
no, it won't
each part has to be finished to fit a specific bottom, since the shape is so complicated
no moons can have case parts swapped, as far as i know
ok, fair enough... guessed as much. I'll probably still try once I've got both to see how much off it would be, but I won't be planning with it to work then ;)
i think the anodizing finish will also be noticably different, but you'll have to wait until it shows up to be sure
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the finish is different, you'll see when you have them both
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 24 January 2018, 20:02:30
Yes, thats true. But some of them are designed by him which also takes up time. Anyways, thats just my guess, im just curious why those IC/GB can say like 4month or so when they can clearly see this and Mira taking so long to complete. Someone needs to do a better prediction, i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯I just hope the delay is not because of EVE taking on more keyboard GB/IC than trying to finish this off first. Cause i think i already saw 2 or 3 thread thats going to be done by him with alot shorter timeline than this GB which i dunno if feasible.
nah, boards get made in order, not all at once
that's why the lead time has increased over the last year
Post by: DillonHightower on Wed, 24 January 2018, 20:07:00
Yes, thats true. But some of them are designed by him which also takes up time. Anyways, thats just my guess, im just curious why those IC/GB can say like 4month or so when they can clearly see this and Mira taking so long to complete. Someone needs to do a better prediction, i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯I just hope the delay is not because of EVE taking on more keyboard GB/IC than trying to finish this off first. Cause i think i already saw 2 or 3 thread thats going to be done by him with alot shorter timeline than this GB which i dunno if feasible.
nah, boards get made in order, not all at once
that's why the lead time has increased over the last year
I’m with you this group is already five months in the hole and not even close to being shipped.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 24 January 2018, 20:08:36
Yes, thats true. But some of them are designed by him which also takes up time. Anyways, thats just my guess, im just curious why those IC/GB can say like 4month or so when they can clearly see this and Mira taking so long to complete. Someone needs to do a better prediction, i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯I just hope the delay is not because of EVE taking on more keyboard GB/IC than trying to finish this off first. Cause i think i already saw 2 or 3 thread thats going to be done by him with alot shorter timeline than this GB which i dunno if feasible.
nah, boards get made in order, not all at once
that's why the lead time has increased over the last year
MIRA got reworked a few times from what i heard, and EVE moved his shop which caused another month or 2 of delay
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 24 January 2018, 21:13:49
yeah i know that too as im watching MIRA GB as well. Also im not asking why we are delayed in this GB but hoping that him working on other project is not causing any more delays for this GB. I think im a pretty patient guy, being in Exent and EM7 GB as well but it just confuse me that new IC are popping up for EVE, with a timeline no less, while he have a massive delay on current GBs.Yes, thats true. But some of them are designed by him which also takes up time. Anyways, thats just my guess, im just curious why those IC/GB can say like 4month or so when they can clearly see this and Mira taking so long to complete. Someone needs to do a better prediction, i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯I just hope the delay is not because of EVE taking on more keyboard GB/IC than trying to finish this off first. Cause i think i already saw 2 or 3 thread thats going to be done by him with alot shorter timeline than this GB which i dunno if feasible.
nah, boards get made in order, not all at once
that's why the lead time has increased over the last year
MIRA got reworked a few times from what i heard, and EVE moved his shop which caused another month or 2 of delay
Well anyways, GB leader is doing a good job updating everyone when its due and i understand their pain when what they can only do is rely on the updates of the manufacturer.
Post by: EVE on Thu, 25 January 2018, 09:28:27
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 25 January 2018, 11:15:06
Guys, I'm sorry, I will sprint at the greatest speed. I want to do the beauty of the night, so the schedule is a bit slow. I'm sorry, I will update the oxidized MOON~ tomorrow night.
Thanks for the update. I, for one, don't mind waiting for a quality product. I'd prefer receiving something very well made with no corners cut to receiving something inferior but sooner.
Post by: metalliccharles on Thu, 25 January 2018, 11:20:02
Thanks for the update. I, for one, don't mind waiting for a quality product. I'd prefer receiving something very well made with no corners cut to receiving something inferior but sooner.
So much this!!
Post by: rioc on Fri, 26 January 2018, 01:27:23
Guys, I'm sorry, I will sprint at the greatest speed. I want to do the beauty of the night, so the schedule is a bit slow. I'm sorry, I will update the oxidized MOON~ tomorrow night.
Thanks for the update. I, for one, don't mind waiting for a quality product. I'd prefer receiving something very well made with no corners cut to receiving something inferior but sooner.
agreed :)
Post by: SBN on Fri, 26 January 2018, 01:54:06
Guys, I'm sorry, I will sprint at the greatest speed. I want to do the beauty of the night, so the schedule is a bit slow. I'm sorry, I will update the oxidized MOON~ tomorrow night.
Thanks for the update. I, for one, don't mind waiting for a quality product. I'd prefer receiving something very well made with no corners cut to receiving something inferior but sooner.
agreed :)
Indeed, please take all the time you need finish this beauty!
Seeing all the reactions to the Mira and the wonderful pictures I’m more than willing to wait a little longer to get an awesome new keyboard!
Post by: zzyjayfree on Fri, 26 January 2018, 07:46:17
EVE sent me some pics I think you would like them.
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A wild Pikachu has appeared!
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Fri, 26 January 2018, 07:54:26
Post by: mathiasn on Fri, 26 January 2018, 08:16:21
Post by: Helldrop on Fri, 26 January 2018, 10:41:59
:thumb: Thanks for updates! Can’t wait to get the Moon.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Fri, 26 January 2018, 11:06:35
Lmao that single green top, looks like ill be having a one off moon!
The military green top IS gonna be pretty rare if you check out the order form :p
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Fri, 26 January 2018, 11:09:27
Ah I see in the from that there are a couple more with good taste, haha! Thanks for the update and looking forward to seeing the pieces coming together :)Lmao that single green top, looks like ill be having a one off moon!
The military green top IS gonna be pretty rare if you check out the order form
Post by: ___q on Fri, 26 January 2018, 11:15:42
The colors all look good!
Post by: neralo on Fri, 26 January 2018, 12:38:02
Thank you for your understanding. You guys are great.
EVE sent me some pics I think you would like them.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/4cd4cc04fba038c19075dea1f3089f17.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/dd96a59b53d790be10f4667f8621f804.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/a2ec1e8ebd9443afb57983f2d8267910.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/b4011ef4036f55eb0aa72e60ba9a6f9b.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/26d09b02b14a07cfe77d14e782a45c9a.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/9a553c2b4a9e4cdb67897b9cbd537585.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/c450e999cba07929b1766d041e2d32ca.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/888db30033bb1bce0ee6d1c6aebb5883.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/9a7c2a7b4a577112f1f4cffdd83999ab.jpg)
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
Yyeessse super excited for this!
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Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 26 January 2018, 13:03:55
Thank you for your understanding. You guys are great.
EVE sent me some pics I think you would like them.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/4cd4cc04fba038c19075dea1f3089f17.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/dd96a59b53d790be10f4667f8621f804.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/a2ec1e8ebd9443afb57983f2d8267910.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/b4011ef4036f55eb0aa72e60ba9a6f9b.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/26d09b02b14a07cfe77d14e782a45c9a.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/9a553c2b4a9e4cdb67897b9cbd537585.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/c450e999cba07929b1766d041e2d32ca.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/888db30033bb1bce0ee6d1c6aebb5883.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/9a7c2a7b4a577112f1f4cffdd83999ab.jpg)
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
Damn, nice. Glad to see this coming along.
Post by: swangful on Fri, 26 January 2018, 13:45:01
Post by: macclack on Fri, 26 January 2018, 13:46:39
:thumb:
I saw that pic and thought the same thing.
I ordered a green top too. I thought I was the only one ;)
I hope there’s 2 and ones just not in the photo!
Post by: macclack on Fri, 26 January 2018, 13:49:00
Post by: metalliccharles on Fri, 26 January 2018, 13:53:03
Thank you for your understanding. You guys are great.
EVE sent me some pics I think you would like them.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/4cd4cc04fba038c19075dea1f3089f17.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/dd96a59b53d790be10f4667f8621f804.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/a2ec1e8ebd9443afb57983f2d8267910.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/b4011ef4036f55eb0aa72e60ba9a6f9b.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/26d09b02b14a07cfe77d14e782a45c9a.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/9a553c2b4a9e4cdb67897b9cbd537585.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/c450e999cba07929b1766d041e2d32ca.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/888db30033bb1bce0ee6d1c6aebb5883.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/9a7c2a7b4a577112f1f4cffdd83999ab.jpg)
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
They all look so good! Is it possible to point out the colors? Specifically the Starry Night Grey ;D
Edit: Using the power of pleb mind, I'm thinking Starry Night Grey is the left row? Also, the Ink Black looks soooo good...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/888db30033bb1bce0ee6d1c6aebb5883.jpg)
Post by: rioc on Fri, 26 January 2018, 15:27:20
Actually I think I ordered a fern green top not military.Oh dude, you're gonna be stoked. Just got my cn gb moon in today with the fern green bottom. That colour is so rich and striking. (gonna try and capture it well with some pics after I built it and will share those)
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Post by: rioc on Fri, 26 January 2018, 15:32:46
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Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 26 January 2018, 15:37:49
Also thanks for the update, really excited to get this one in too, it's gonna be my Russian mom landing board ;)
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wow, hope this board can help me land a russian mom too! :p
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 26 January 2018, 15:57:42
Well there...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/df6adf563c643730987e18f5407786e0.jpg)Also thanks for the update, really excited to get this one in too, it's gonna be my Russian mom landing board ;)
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wow, hope this board can help me land a russian mom too!
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Post by: rioc on Fri, 26 January 2018, 17:58:26
Well there...Also thanks for the update, really excited to get this one in too, it's gonna be my Russian mom landing board
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wow, hope this board can help me land a russian mom too!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/df6adf563c643730987e18f5407786e0.jpg)
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Ahahahhahaha, I meant "moon landing"... Damn Autocorrect actually did something funny
🤣🤣🤣
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Post by: jb1830 on Fri, 26 January 2018, 18:09:03
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Post by: gaiden on Fri, 26 January 2018, 18:10:19
Instructions unclear, rioc now has a Russian mom because in Russia you get a mom when waiting for a MoonWell there...Also thanks for the update, really excited to get this one in too, it's gonna be my Russian mom landing board
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wow, hope this board can help me land a russian mom too!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/df6adf563c643730987e18f5407786e0.jpg)
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Ahahahhahaha, I meant "moon landing"... Damn Autocorrect actually did something funny
🤣🤣🤣
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Post by: rioc on Fri, 26 January 2018, 18:31:13
:D :D :DInstructions unclear, rioc now has a Russian mom because in Russia you get a mom when waiting for a MoonWell there...Also thanks for the update, really excited to get this one in too, it's gonna be my Russian mom landing board
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wow, hope this board can help me land a russian mom too!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/df6adf563c643730987e18f5407786e0.jpg)
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Ahahahhahaha, I meant "moon landing"... Damn Autocorrect actually did something funny
🤣🤣🤣
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Post by: macclack on Fri, 26 January 2018, 19:31:00
Actually I think I ordered a fern green top not military.Oh dude, you're gonna be stoked. Just got my cn gb moon in today with the fern green bottom. That colour is so rich and striking. (gonna try and capture it well with some pics after I built it and will share those)
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OK cool. I was hoping the fern green would match the green legends on the Royal Alphas (long shot I know). Looking forward to seeing a photo!
Post by: macclack on Fri, 26 January 2018, 19:32:38
Well there...Also thanks for the update, really excited to get this one in too, it's gonna be my Russian mom landing board
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Tears.
wow, hope this board can help me land a russian mom too!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/df6adf563c643730987e18f5407786e0.jpg)
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Ahahahhahaha, I meant "moon landing"... Damn Autocorrect actually did something funny
🤣🤣🤣
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Post by: swangful on Sat, 27 January 2018, 15:12:45
1. Is the pcb holtite compatible?
2. The weight of the board?
Post by: rioc on Sat, 27 January 2018, 15:54:44
Did we ever find out...Damn, forgot to test holtite sockets, already soldered my pcb, but the holes seemed tight enough to be able to fit them well.
1. Is the pcb holtite compatible?
2. The weight of the board?
As for the weight the cn edition is about 4.23kg with aluminium weight and plate. Feels a tad heavier than my skog
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Post by: swangful on Sat, 27 January 2018, 20:31:53
Did we ever find out...Damn, forgot to test holtite sockets, already soldered my pcb, but the holes seemed tight enough to be able to fit them well.
1. Is the pcb holtite compatible?
2. The weight of the board?
As for the weight the cn edition is about 4.23kg with aluminium weight and plate. Feels a tad heavier than my skog
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Damn that’s one hefty board. Awesome. I’ll wait to purchase some holtites then until someone can confirm. Thanks!
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 30 January 2018, 10:24:54
Thank you for your understanding. You guys are great.Now THIS is exciting news! They look great, I can't wait to see the finished product in the flesh.
EVE sent me some pics I think you would like them.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/26d09b02b14a07cfe77d14e782a45c9a.jpg)
Post by: cirrus82 on Thu, 01 February 2018, 16:13:14
Post by: 1905ChelseaBlues on Thu, 08 February 2018, 12:28:29
Post by: zzyjayfree on Thu, 08 February 2018, 13:39:55
(https://images.chinahighlights.com/allpicture/2016/12/a87c30fd59b845e892679e08.jpg)
Post by: swangful on Thu, 08 February 2018, 13:51:24
Actually there is, we have finished most of the anodizing and parts assembly (arrows, logo, weight) and we are now at packaging and shipping (to my proxy) stage. Expect shipping invoice shortly. However, due to Chinese New Year, they will be sitting in my proxy for a while as everything is closed during the Chinese New Year. It should be back to normal around Feb 22nd.
Sweet! So hopefully by the end of March I'll have this board ^^.
I'm going on vacation mid April, so im hoping i get the board before then D:
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 08 February 2018, 13:57:12
Actually there is, we have finished most of the anodizing and parts assembly (arrows, logo, weight) and we are now at packaging and shipping (to my proxy) stage. Expect shipping invoice shortly. However, due to Chinese New Year, they will be sitting in my proxy for a while as everything is closed during the Chinese New Year. It should be back to normal around Feb 22nd.Show Image(https://images.chinahighlights.com/allpicture/2016/12/a87c30fd59b845e892679e08.jpg)
So excited.
Also, thanks for the chart, funny part is I was hoping someone would post one to explain the holidays going on. Jay is an overachiever for sure. Many thanks, Jay! =)
Edit: OH NO, I NEED SWITCHES!
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 08 February 2018, 15:42:56
Edit: OH NO, I NEED SWITCHES!
good thing it's not 2013
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 08 February 2018, 21:16:06
Still nothing from EVE? Because soon it will be Christmas period, then Chinese New Year, then we're into Q2 2018 for delivery.
I'm offering fortune telling and palm reading as well, PM me for details.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 08 February 2018, 22:30:49
Still nothing from EVE? Because soon it will be Christmas period, then Chinese New Year, then we're into Q2 2018 for delivery.
I'm offering fortune telling and palm reading as well, PM me for details.
there is an update from zzjayfree a few posts above yours
Post by: rioc on Fri, 09 February 2018, 02:58:07
Actually there is, we have finished most of the anodizing and parts assembly (arrows, logo, weight) and we are now at packaging and shipping (to my proxy) stage. Expect shipping invoice shortly. However, due to Chinese New Year (Feb 16th this year), they will be sitting in my proxy for a while as everything is closed during the Chinese New Year. It should be back to normal around Feb 22nd.Show Image(https://images.chinahighlights.com/allpicture/2016/12/a87c30fd59b845e892679e08.jpg)
Sweet news :)
a shame I couldn't go visit China this year around for new years, was there last year and it was a blast at cny :)
Post by: Darknight00z on Fri, 09 February 2018, 03:06:37
Post by: rioc on Fri, 09 February 2018, 04:58:07
I forgot if this was listed anyway, but looking to confirm. From the cad drawings, the plate doesn't seem to support switch top opening right? I like to lube my switches, and will need to re-lube every now and then. Might have to find some stock ones that I can bear.
plate from cn gb doesn't support it, so I suggest going with well used vintage switches. (and maybe lube them up before placing them)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 09 February 2018, 11:49:00
I forgot if this was listed anyway, but looking to confirm. From the cad drawings, the plate doesn't seem to support switch top opening right? I like to lube my switches, and will need to re-lube every now and then. Might have to find some stock ones that I can bear.
just wait for the g0 equivalent and you'll never have to relube
should be in stores in 3 weeks
Post by: nathanchere on Fri, 09 February 2018, 23:19:07
there is an update from zzjayfree a few posts above yoursYeah, all but confirming my Q2 2018 prediction.
Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 10 February 2018, 11:47:17
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 10 February 2018, 14:37:44
Any chance we can get the plate file? So I can get a plate the supports switch top opening made?
it's possible that it may end up being a jane/27 plate so wait for it to show up and see
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 12 February 2018, 22:35:22
Still nothing from EVE? Because soon it will be Christmas period, then Chinese New Year, then we're into Q2 2018 for delivery.
I'm offering fortune telling and palm reading as well, PM me for details.
Well 58 boards are already at proxy but it’s the time of the year. Still it should be late Q1 not Q2
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 13 February 2018, 01:11:28
Still nothing from EVE? Because soon it will be Christmas period, then Chinese New Year, then we're into Q2 2018 for delivery.
I'm offering fortune telling and palm reading as well, PM me for details.
Well 58 boards are already at proxy but it’s the time of the year. Still it should be late Q1 not Q2
exciting
Post by: SBN on Tue, 13 February 2018, 02:27:49
Still nothing from EVE? Because soon it will be Christmas period, then Chinese New Year, then we're into Q2 2018 for delivery.
I'm offering fortune telling and palm reading as well, PM me for details.
Well 58 boards are already at proxy but it’s the time of the year. Still it should be late Q1 not Q2
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
Thanks for the update! Any chance of pictures? Even if it’s just the boxed boards...it’s always exiting to see the current status! :)
Post by: rioc on Tue, 13 February 2018, 04:29:00
Still nothing from EVE? Because soon it will be Christmas period, then Chinese New Year, then we're into Q2 2018 for delivery.
I'm offering fortune telling and palm reading as well, PM me for details.
Well 58 boards are already at proxy but it’s the time of the year. Still it should be late Q1 not Q2
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
sweet! this is gonna be grand :)
already got my silent black switches lubed and stickered :)
Post by: neralo on Tue, 13 February 2018, 21:13:54
Actually there is, we have finished most of the anodizing and parts assembly (arrows, logo, weight) and we are now at packaging and shipping (to my proxy) stage. Expect shipping invoice shortly. However, due to Chinese New Year (Feb 16th this year), they will be sitting in my proxy for a while as everything is closed during the Chinese New Year. It should be back to normal around Feb 22nd.Show Image(https://images.chinahighlights.com/allpicture/2016/12/a87c30fd59b845e892679e08.jpg)
Great news! The excitement is rebuilding now.
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Post by: tin1601 on Wed, 14 February 2018, 02:07:32
Payment ended, all invoices are final. Each buyer will receive an email to confirm that the order is completed.
I've also pulled some strings to provide assembly service.
Material:
Switches (each)
Cherry MX Black/Red/Blue/Brown: $0.5
Cherry MX Grey/Green/White/Clear/Silver: $0.7
Cherry MX Silent Red/Black: $0.75
Cherry RGB Red/Brown/Blue: $0.55
Cherry RGB Clear/Silver/Silent Red: $0.75
Others: (for the board)
Cherry Stabs: $15
Gold Plated Springs: $15
Trans Switch Housing: $0.5
Switch Sticker: $8
LED:
White/Red/Yellow/Grass Green/Blue/Orange: $10
Warm White/Pink/Icy Blue/Blue Green/Purple: $15
Service Fee:
Soldering: $35
Housing/Spring Swap, Sticker/LED Installing: $15 each
Let me know if I missed anything or the price is not reasonable, or if you want something else, I'll try my pest.
I wonder if we can have the hostile option in the assemble or not zzyjay.
Post by: skcubrats on Fri, 16 February 2018, 00:55:57
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 19 February 2018, 16:45:59
I forgot if this was listed anyway, but looking to confirm. From the cad drawings, the plate doesn't seem to support switch top opening right? I like to lube my switches, and will need to re-lube every now and then. Might have to find some stock ones that I can bear.
just wait for the g0 equivalent and you'll never have to relube
should be in stores in 3 weeks
Have you tried the G0 lube? I haven't seen any impressions of it anywhere so I'm curious as to what would make it so that you would never have to relube again.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 19 February 2018, 17:07:11
I forgot if this was listed anyway, but looking to confirm. From the cad drawings, the plate doesn't seem to support switch top opening right? I like to lube my switches, and will need to re-lube every now and then. Might have to find some stock ones that I can bear.
just wait for the g0 equivalent and you'll never have to relube
should be in stores in 3 weeks
Have you tried the G0 lube? I haven't seen any impressions of it anywhere so I'm curious as to what would make it so that you would never have to relube again.
i have, it's very good
normally don't like lubing but it's pretty easy compared to other options like 106/204 mixes
Post by: nathanchere on Sun, 25 February 2018, 10:48:29
This is one of the most tasteful combinations I've seen so far:
(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20180111/loHLM-uUx8MesgQrFdP9FSw_x1QU?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20180111/llfeKMcOC6AC-lFVM6IW1eVlzOS3?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
Post by: Kavik on Sun, 25 February 2018, 22:46:50
Chinese New Year peak period is over. Time for anticipation to start building again...
This is one of the most tasteful combinations I've seen so far:Show Image(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20180111/loHLM-uUx8MesgQrFdP9FSw_x1QU?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)Show Image(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20180111/llfeKMcOC6AC-lFVM6IW1eVlzOS3?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
I was just looking at the pictures from the Chinese GB yesterday too. I think SA is definitely the profile for this keyboard. The sculpted keys go perfectly with the curves of this keyboard.
Post by: rioc on Mon, 26 February 2018, 01:57:55
Chinese New Year peak period is over. Time for anticipation to start building again...
This is one of the most tasteful combinations I've seen so far:Show Image(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20180111/loHLM-uUx8MesgQrFdP9FSw_x1QU?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)Show Image(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20180111/llfeKMcOC6AC-lFVM6IW1eVlzOS3?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
I was just looking at the pictures from the Chinese GB yesterday too. I think SA is definitely the profile for this keyboard. The sculpted keys go perfectly with the curves of this keyboard.
do agree... switched from my EVA Noctilucous set to SA Penumbra on this board. looks great!
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 26 February 2018, 07:14:43
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
Post by: jb1830 on Mon, 26 February 2018, 07:48:08
Received 58 boards at my proxy. Will start to submit shipping request tonight and invoices will go out once I know the charge. Please double check your order detail and shipping address before you pay.Amazing news!
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
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Post by: Krytone on Mon, 26 February 2018, 09:18:07
Received 58 boards at my proxy. Will start to submit shipping request tonight and invoices will go out once I know the charge. Please double check your order detail and shipping address before you pay.Thats awesome news! Thx for the update!
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
Post by: rioc on Mon, 26 February 2018, 09:19:08
Received 58 boards at my proxy. Will start to submit shipping request tonight and invoices will go out once I know the charge. Please double check your order detail and shipping address before you pay.
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
WEEEEEEE, Nito! :thumb:
Post by: swangful on Mon, 26 February 2018, 12:08:47
Received 58 boards at my proxy. Will start to submit shipping request tonight and invoices will go out once I know the charge. Please double check your order detail and shipping address before you pay.
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
So are these boards being shipped in order? :O Or by colors?
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 26 February 2018, 12:17:14
Received 58 boards at my proxy. Will start to submit shipping request tonight and invoices will go out once I know the charge. Please double check your order detail and shipping address before you pay.
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
So are these boards being shipped in order? :O Or by colors?
if it's anything like how he shipped the mira, totally randomly
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 26 February 2018, 12:20:44
So are these boards being shipped in order? :O Or by colors?
if it's anything like how he shipped the mira, totally randomly
I don't know if there's any particular order for EVE to send the boards to me but I'll be dealing with them by chronological order. Hope that kinda answer your question.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 26 February 2018, 12:31:24
Received 58 boards at my proxy. Will start to submit shipping request tonight and invoices will go out once I know the charge. Please double check your order detail and shipping address before you pay.
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
So are these boards being shipped in order? :O Or by colors?
if it's anything like how he shipped the mira, totally randomly
Since I'm right at the bottom of the list, I have to hope f or random :))
Post by: swangful on Mon, 26 February 2018, 12:32:36
So are these boards being shipped in order? :O Or by colors?if it's anything like how he shipped the mira, totally randomly
I don't know if there's any particular order for EVE to send the boards to me but I'll be dealing with them by chronological order. Hope that kinda answer your question.
Woohoo!
Invoice no 10!
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 26 February 2018, 13:28:45
Invoice no 10!
I meant chronological order of receiving boards at my proxy, not of ordering.. Sorry if I got you too excited.. The good news is I do have your board at mthe proxy.
Post by: swangful on Mon, 26 February 2018, 13:36:32
Invoice no 10!
I meant chronological order of receiving boards at my proxy, not of ordering.. Sorry if I got you too excited.. The good news is I do have your board at mthe proxy.
LOL! No problem, and WOOHOO!
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 26 February 2018, 22:17:37
Post by: Eggplant on Mon, 26 February 2018, 22:32:57
Received 58 boards at my proxy. Will start to submit shipping request tonight and invoices will go out once I know the charge. Please double check your order detail and shipping address before you pay.Amazing news!
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
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Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! :)
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 26 February 2018, 22:38:02
Excited for this, nonetheless.
Post by: neralo on Mon, 26 February 2018, 23:22:36
Post by: Krytone on Tue, 27 February 2018, 00:21:54
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 27 February 2018, 02:29:25
sad to say i kinda like the moon logo of the chinese buy more :-[Me too, but "the grass is always greener" ;)
I'm still really excited with how they look overall.
Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 27 February 2018, 03:07:37
sad to say i kinda like the moon logo of the chinese buy more :-[
you are not the only one sir..
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 27 February 2018, 09:46:46
sad to say i kinda like the moon logo of the chinese buy more :-[
I was really bummed when we had to choose a new logo, but I actually prefer the new one now (Initially, I thought the two O's looked like plump buns :))). It's neat that there are two editions of this board differentiated by logo.
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:58:15
Does the plate support switch top opening?
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 27 February 2018, 15:01:28
Maybe Rioc can answer this.
Does the plate support switch top opening?
you can tell from the pictures that it doesn't
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 27 February 2018, 16:54:59
Maybe Rioc can answer this.
Does the plate support switch top opening?
you can tell from the pictures that it doesn't
I forgot about the prototype pictures that show the plates. I'd been looking at everything but those. Oops.
Post by: swangful on Tue, 27 February 2018, 21:26:10
Do you know when these will start shipping?
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 27 February 2018, 21:55:04
Do you know when these will start shipping?
Normally I wait till the next day to check if invoices are paid or not. If paid, I'll pay my proxy and they will start to arrange shipping. Normally it takes less than 2 days to get a tracking number.
Post by: swangful on Tue, 27 February 2018, 22:18:02
Sent out 10 invoices for shipping and plan to send out more this week.Do you know when these will start shipping?
Normally I wait till the next day to check if invoices are paid or not. If paid, I'll pay my proxy and they will start to arrange shipping. Normally it takes less than 2 days to get a tracking number.
Awesome, looking forward to it. Thank you!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/121YQW1OQhqGLS/giphy.gif)
Post by: DillonHightower on Wed, 28 February 2018, 01:34:18
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 28 February 2018, 02:01:10
Got my invoice. Let the carbon craze begin. Just in time for the set to arrive.jelly :'(
Post by: Manticzeus on Wed, 28 February 2018, 02:59:51
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 28 February 2018, 07:00:18
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 28 February 2018, 15:36:48
Post by: Jubileus on Wed, 28 February 2018, 21:21:55
What courier will it be shipped though?
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 28 February 2018, 21:30:53
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 28 February 2018, 21:52:15
Sent out 10 more invoices
Submitted 10 more boards for shipping.
Above will be my daily routine for a while
Post by: neralo on Wed, 28 February 2018, 22:07:06
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Post by: Butter on Wed, 28 February 2018, 23:56:35
Sorry if those question been answer already, but I can't find the answer anywhere.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 01 March 2018, 07:41:31
I just got the invoice!!. Where is the proxy located? Also which carrier will be use?
Sorry if those question been answer already, but I can't find the answer anywhere.
Hong Kong, DHL
if it's the same one used for mira
Post by: zzyjayfree on Thu, 01 March 2018, 21:28:45
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1drU_63J-pareTCKEeq2Ydo95LmoTud6rCTdXpYOYxQI/edit#gid=1582473866
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 01 March 2018, 21:38:54
Sent out more invoices and updated tracking number for the first batch of lucky buyers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1drU_63J-pareTCKEeq2Ydo95LmoTud6rCTdXpYOYxQI/edit#gid=1582473866
Can't wait till the next batch! So close!
Post by: swangful on Fri, 02 March 2018, 02:32:04
Sent out more invoices and updated tracking number for the first batch of lucky buyers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1drU_63J-pareTCKEeq2Ydo95LmoTud6rCTdXpYOYxQI/edit#gid=1582473866
:O there I am!!
EDIT: Holy ****, arriving on monday..that's fast. I'll post pics when it arrives!
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 05 March 2018, 04:38:32
Sent out 10 invoices for shipping and plan to send out more this week.Do you know when these will start shipping?
Normally I wait till the next day to check if invoices are paid or not. If paid, I'll pay my proxy and they will start to arrange shipping. Normally it takes less than 2 days to get a tracking number.
Have updates stopped on this? I paid early last week and haven't seen any confirmation of payment or tracking number, mostly just want to make sure payment was received OK.
Post by: rioc on Mon, 05 March 2018, 06:03:45
Sent out 10 invoices for shipping and plan to send out more this week.Do you know when these will start shipping?
Normally I wait till the next day to check if invoices are paid or not. If paid, I'll pay my proxy and they will start to arrange shipping. Normally it takes less than 2 days to get a tracking number.
Have updates stopped on this? I paid early last week and haven't seen any confirmation of payment or tracking number, mostly just want to make sure payment was received OK.
wondering too, haven't got a shipping invoice yet
Post by: Manticzeus on Mon, 05 March 2018, 08:20:13
Sent out 10 invoices for shipping and plan to send out more this week.Do you know when these will start shipping?
Normally I wait till the next day to check if invoices are paid or not. If paid, I'll pay my proxy and they will start to arrange shipping. Normally it takes less than 2 days to get a tracking number.
Have updates stopped on this? I paid early last week and haven't seen any confirmation of payment or tracking number, mostly just want to make sure payment was received OK.
Did you check the order status form, I got my tracking number from there.
Looks like mine is arriving today, yay! I wont have switches till later on in the week though so booooooooooo :(
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 05 March 2018, 11:47:44
Have updates stopped on this? I paid early last week and haven't seen any confirmation of payment or tracking number, mostly just want to make sure payment was received OK.
wondering too, haven't got a shipping invoice yet
Had to do overtime and got busy during the weekend. Will resume today
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 05 March 2018, 11:48:42
Looks like mine is arriving today, yay! I wont have switches till later on in the week though so booooooooooo :(
EDIT: Holy ****, arriving on monday..that's fast. I'll post pics when it arrives!
Looking forward to your pics, I don't even have moon myself :p
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 05 March 2018, 13:29:04
Had to do overtime and got busy during the weekend. Will resume todayOK great. Was just paranoid that my payment might not have worked since it's the first time I've used my card since getting back from China where I had endless issues.
Post by: Philrulesworld on Mon, 05 March 2018, 15:08:20
Stripes were supposed to match the bottom piece, but mine match the top. Anything I can do about that?
Post by: swangful on Mon, 05 March 2018, 15:28:04
Couple first impressions:
- HEFTYYYY. If I threw this keyboard at someone, I'd fear for their life.
- Brass isnt as shiny as I was hoping but still looks good.
- I'll need to learn how to solder the miniusb to the PCB
- I need some rubber feet, any recommendations?
- Case logo doesn't match the new logo, but no biggie
- Feels amazing overall. Lines are super clean. Curves even cleaner.
Full album https://imgur.com/a/SAxWH
Some pics
(https://i.imgur.com/ymsENBF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EwH8cPr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TmqyF3C.jpg)
Thank you zzjayfree for organizing this. <3
Can't wait to mount my zilents on this. No one can hear you type in space :X
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 05 March 2018, 15:35:59
Just picked up my board...
Couple first impressions:
- HEFTYYYY. If I threw this keyboard at someone, I'd fear for their life.
- Brass isnt as shiny as I was hoping but still looks good.
- I'll need to learn how to solder the miniusb to the PCB
- I need some rubber feet, any recommendations?
- Case logo doesn't match the new logo, but no biggie
- Feels amazing overall. Lines are super clean. Curves even cleaner.
Full album https://imgur.com/a/SAxWH
Some picsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ymsENBF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EwH8cPr.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TmqyF3C.jpg)
Thank you zzjayfree for organizing this. <3
Can't wait to mount my zilents on this. No one can hear you type in space :X
That is looking sweet! Hook us up with a typing test in the future :)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:00:23
want to know if it's heavier than 456
Post by: p_blaze on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:02:18
Just picked up my board...
Couple first impressions:
- HEFTYYYY. If I threw this keyboard at someone, I'd fear for their life.
- Brass isnt as shiny as I was hoping but still looks good.
- I'll need to learn how to solder the miniusb to the PCB
- I need some rubber feet, any recommendations?
- Case logo doesn't match the new logo, but no biggie
- Feels amazing overall. Lines are super clean. Curves even cleaner.
Full album https://imgur.com/a/SAxWH
Some picsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ymsENBF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EwH8cPr.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TmqyF3C.jpg)
Thank you zzjayfree for organizing this. <3
Can't wait to mount my zilents on this. No one can hear you type in space :X
0_o
that is probably the best looking keeb I've seen in a while
Post by: swangful on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:03:09
As for the weight the cn edition is about 4.23kg with aluminium weight and plate. Feels a tad heavier than my skog
Puddsy ^
I can't imagine were too far off from that
Post by: p_blaze on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:04:31
As for the weight the cn edition is about 4.23kg with aluminium weight and plate. Feels a tad heavier than my skog
Puddsy ^
I can't imagine were too far off from that
4kg?????
holy **** that would kill a raccoon in one swing
Post by: swangful on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:18:16
I also got a little ziploc bag with two tiny things inside it. Not sure what they do (assuming miniusb related)
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:19:20
Couple quick pictures. Looks, and feels amazing!
Stripes were supposed to match the bottom piece, but mine match the top. Anything I can do about that?
Probably will have EVE send me some replacement parts when it's done, for now you'll have to live with it for awhile. Sorry about that
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:34:15
As for the weight the cn edition is about 4.23kg with aluminium weight and plate. Feels a tad heavier than my skog
Puddsy ^
I can't imagine were too far off from that
the weight for this version is a little smaller than the CN version
CN is just a bar weight
Post by: poolside on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:42:27
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 05 March 2018, 17:06:18
Great quality, looks beautiful, however the biggest thing I feared the most came true and I’m a bit crushed/bummed out.
I ordered a Blue Magenta Moon, with the Violet Purple plate (and extras). The sample picture in the original post showed Blue Magenta as Purple, and Violet Purple as a red wine color. I questioned the names, but was told it was most likely due to the language difference.
Opened up my Moon, and bam! It’s a Midnight Blue color, and the plate is the true Purple the case was supposed to be, not the purple shown in the sample picture. :(
There are pink splotches on the bottom of the board, and a screw wasn’t fastened, so I need to double check for a scratches later. (Gonna try cleaning the slight pink areas).
This wasn’t the color I ordered, BUT let me tell you, the board looks amazing, the quality is superb. I’m just hoping I can at least somehow get the color I ordered. :(
Not sure how to post pictures like you guys have (I’m on mobile). But I can post an imgur link later.
Overall, you guys will freak out when you get your Moon. It’s pretty beautiful. Quality is top notch for sure. I like it a lot.
Edit: Just in case I didn’t make it super clear, the only thing I’m bummed out about is the color. The quality is honestly pretty amazing. Best I’ve seen, better than Mira too.
Post by: p_blaze on Mon, 05 March 2018, 19:06:31
I just got my Moon today!
Great quality, looks beautiful, however the biggest thing I feared the most came true and I’m a bit crushed/bummed out.
I ordered a Blue Magenta Moon, with the Violet Purple plate (and extras). The sample picture in the original post showed Blue Magenta as Purple, and Violet Purple as a red wine color. I questioned the names, but was told it was most likely due to the language difference.
Opened up my Moon, and bam! It’s a Midnight Blue color, and the plate is the true Purple the case was supposed to be, not the purple shown in the sample picture. :(
There are pink splotches on the bottom of the board, and a screw wasn’t fastened, so I need to double check for a scratches later. (Gonna try cleaning the slight pink areas).
This wasn’t the color I ordered, BUT let me tell you, the board looks amazing, the quality is superb. I’m just hoping I can at least somehow get the color I ordered. :(
Not sure how to post pictures like you guys have (I’m on mobile). But I can post an imgur link later.
Overall, you guys will freak out when you get your Moon. It’s pretty beautiful. Quality is top notch for sure. I like it a lot.
Edit: Just in case I didn’t make it super clear, the only thing I’m bummed out about is the color. The quality is honestly pretty amazing. Best I’ve seen, better than Mira too.
I wonder how this will be fixed for you... re-anodization would probably cost more than a new board due to shipping costs involved
if you don't want the board though, just send it my way ;) ;)
Post by: Butter on Mon, 05 March 2018, 19:50:39
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 05 March 2018, 20:43:22
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:01:03
is it standard in moon to have the usb unsoldered from the pcb?
cause you have to solder it to the daughterboard
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:15:15
didnt see in the posted pics that there is a daugtherboard and looks like the usb placing in the pcb is positioned correctly from the case usb hole altho abit deeper. So that means that its standard? Just curious cause it wasnt mentioned anywhere that it is.is it standard in moon to have the usb unsoldered from the pcb?
cause you have to solder it to the daughterboard
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:18:18
didnt see in the posted pics that there is a daugtherboard and looks like the usb placing in the pcb is positioned correctly from the case usb hole altho abit deeper. So that means that its standard? Just curious cause it wasnt mentioned anywhere that it is.is it standard in moon to have the usb unsoldered from the pcb?
cause you have to solder it to the daughterboard
it was definitely mentioned a few times
if you look, you can see wires in some of the pictures of empty cases that have been posted
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:05:34
Now that you mentioned about it, i can definitely see the wires. now im thinking if the rgb pcb would work on this thats available in taobao. Also, kinda first for me that usb is not soldered as standard. still excited to get mine and hope everything is as stated in the invoice. Thanks Puddsy!didnt see in the posted pics that there is a daugtherboard and looks like the usb placing in the pcb is positioned correctly from the case usb hole altho abit deeper. So that means that its standard? Just curious cause it wasnt mentioned anywhere that it is.is it standard in moon to have the usb unsoldered from the pcb?
cause you have to solder it to the daughterboard
it was definitely mentioned a few times
if you look, you can see wires in some of the pictures of empty cases that have been posted
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:17:12
Now that you mentioned about it, i can definitely see the wires. now im thinking if the rgb pcb would work on this thats available in taobao. Also, kinda first for me that usb is not soldered as standard. still excited to get mine and hope everything is as stated in the invoice. Thanks Puddsy!didnt see in the posted pics that there is a daugtherboard and looks like the usb placing in the pcb is positioned correctly from the case usb hole altho abit deeper. So that means that its standard? Just curious cause it wasnt mentioned anywhere that it is.is it standard in moon to have the usb unsoldered from the pcb?
cause you have to solder it to the daughterboard
it was definitely mentioned a few times
if you look, you can see wires in some of the pictures of empty cases that have been posted
the footprint of this board is kinda weird, so other PCBs might not work, i don't think a TX87 will just judging by the shape
i'd have to get some hands on time with one to confirm either way
soldering a USB port is pretty easy, there are plenty of guides if you just google it
and no problem, waiting for updates/answers is my number one pet peeve
although i admit sometimes i'm wrong, since posting incorrect answers tends to get people to post correct ones more quickly than just asking a question
Post by: Krytone on Tue, 06 March 2018, 00:21:05
Yeah i just checked the pcb in taobao and screw holes doesnt line so yeah, will prolly leave this as is :cool:Now that you mentioned about it, i can definitely see the wires. now im thinking if the rgb pcb would work on this thats available in taobao. Also, kinda first for me that usb is not soldered as standard. still excited to get mine and hope everything is as stated in the invoice. Thanks Puddsy!didnt see in the posted pics that there is a daugtherboard and looks like the usb placing in the pcb is positioned correctly from the case usb hole altho abit deeper. So that means that its standard? Just curious cause it wasnt mentioned anywhere that it is.is it standard in moon to have the usb unsoldered from the pcb?
cause you have to solder it to the daughterboard
it was definitely mentioned a few times
if you look, you can see wires in some of the pictures of empty cases that have been posted
the footprint of this board is kinda weird, so other PCBs might not work, i don't think a TX87 will just judging by the shape
i'd have to get some hands on time with one to confirm either way
soldering a USB port is pretty easy, there are plenty of guides if you just google it
and no problem, waiting for updates/answers is my number one pet peeve
although i admit sometimes i'm wrong, since posting incorrect answers tends to get people to post correct ones more quickly than just asking a question
Post by: Philrulesworld on Tue, 06 March 2018, 00:30:15
Couple quick pictures. Looks, and feels amazing!
Stripes were supposed to match the bottom piece, but mine match the top. Anything I can do about that?
Probably will have EVE send me some replacement parts when it's done, for now you'll have to live with it for awhile. Sorry about that
No worries, thanks dude!
Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 06 March 2018, 04:41:59
Post by: rioc on Tue, 06 March 2018, 08:02:11
Post by: jb1830 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 12:12:58
Real questions. @zz when are you going to talk to eve about making my a matching numberpad??? 😇😇 please and thankyou.
Realest question.
Also received and paid my invoice....TO THE MOON!!!!
Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:30:01
Build quality is top notch. lines meet with no hard edges, and colors are on point! No real issues in ano other than one spot but it is on bottom of board and it tiny. The case it came in is carbon looking and very nice as well ! Best purchase of 2017 hands down.. Enjoy the porn ladies and gents ! ! SUPER STOKED!!!! @ZZ and @ EVE outstanding job! keep up the great work !!!!! :cool: :p :thumb:
(https://i.imgur.com/V2muMfH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YRQqbAg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Dgwfpxc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gCpP3wk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Cy3DCEX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/P3JvC55.jpg)
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:36:45
Ok Boys The time is here ....I got the same colors. That looks fantastic! I can't wait for mine to come! Shipping invoice, where are ya?
Build quality is top notch. lines meet with no hard edges, and colors are on point! No real issues in ano other than one spot but it is on bottom of board and it tiny. The case it came in is carbon looking and very nice as well ! Best purchase of 2017 hands down.. Enjoy the porn ladies and gents ! ! SUPER STOKED!!!! @ZZ and @ EVE outstanding job! keep up the great work !!!!! :cool:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/V2muMfH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/YRQqbAg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gCpP3wk.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1jf3cZU.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pDeziBW.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Cy3DCEX.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/P3JvC55.jpg)
What are your build plans, DillonHighTower?
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Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 06 March 2018, 13:57:52
Colors are right on point .. When I first opened the box I thought the orange was kinda off, but after comparing to actual Carbon caps, IT IS ON POINT!!!Ok Boys The time is here ....I got the same colors. That looks fantastic! I can't wait for mine to come! Shipping invoice, where are ya?
Build quality is top notch. lines meet with no hard edges, and colors are on point! No real issues in ano other than one spot but it is on bottom of board and it tiny. The case it came in is carbon looking and very nice as well ! Best purchase of 2017 hands down.. Enjoy the porn ladies and gents ! ! SUPER STOKED!!!! @ZZ and @ EVE outstanding job! keep up the great work !!!!! :cool:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/V2muMfH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/YRQqbAg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gCpP3wk.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1jf3cZU.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pDeziBW.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Cy3DCEX.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/P3JvC55.jpg)
What are your build plans, DillonHighTower?
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Im still in the works but plan is Zeal stabs, and pandas of some sort. zealio/panda or holy/panda . Getting some samples on the way as we speak. And of course R2 carbon with some goodies in the mix.
Post by: rioc on Tue, 06 March 2018, 14:40:07
can't wait for it to arrive. (a shame the CN version didn't get a case either. (or I didn't get one with mine))
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 06 March 2018, 14:47:39
I also got the carbon orange and ink black, but with brass accents. I'm glad it looks so good! Thanks for the pics.
Although the more I see the new logo, the more it looks like a person's buns to me (it doesn't help that it's called "moon", lol).
Post by: swangful on Tue, 06 March 2018, 16:52:50
Post by: Manticzeus on Tue, 06 March 2018, 19:20:20
Waiting on my Zealios and GMK Oblivion. Should be built by Friday!
Post by: swangful on Tue, 06 March 2018, 19:34:50
https://imgur.com/a/zbVnW (https://imgur.com/a/zbVnW)
Waiting on my Zealios and GMK Oblivion. Should be built by Friday!
Thats one good looking stormtroopy board. Oblivion White alphas?
Post by: Manticzeus on Tue, 06 March 2018, 19:39:13
Post by: dblack on Tue, 06 March 2018, 19:43:01
Post by: Krytone on Tue, 06 March 2018, 19:50:55
Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 06 March 2018, 20:21:45
Post by: simhoon on Tue, 06 March 2018, 21:37:33
Post by: rioc on Wed, 07 March 2018, 00:53:41
https://imgur.com/a/zbVnW (https://imgur.com/a/zbVnW)
Waiting on my Zealios and GMK Oblivion. Should be built by Friday!
oh nice... now I know what I can expect mine to look like (if I imagine brass plate with it)
looking stellar
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 07 March 2018, 08:48:18
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But this is what I received.
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Even with the flaws (mentioned in my previous post), it’s still beautiful and the BEST quality I have ever seen, but hoping Jay can still hook me up with the purple I wanted. :(
I too am curious on how to solder the breakout usb properly, if someone could kindly make a guide I would appreciate it!
Post by: DillonHightower on Wed, 07 March 2018, 11:31:21
Just for the curious, this is the Blue Magenta (purple) that I ordered.
(Attachment Link)
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But this is what I received.
(Attachment Link)
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Even with the flaws, it’s still beautiful and the BEST quality I have ever seen, but hoping Jay can still hook me up with the purple I wanted. :(
I too am curious on how to solder the breakout usb properly, if someone could kindly make a guide I would appreciate it!
render pics and actual colors are always going to be different. Look at my carbon compared to the orange in the renders. Those pictures have been enhanced and viberance added .. You got the color advertised . sorry to say.
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 07 March 2018, 11:42:52
Just for the curious, this is the Blue Magenta (purple) that I ordered.
(Attachment Link)
_________________________
But this is what I received.
(Attachment Link)
__________________________
Even with the flaws, it’s still beautiful and the BEST quality I have ever seen, but hoping Jay can still hook me up with the purple I wanted. :(
I too am curious on how to solder the breakout usb properly, if someone could kindly make a guide I would appreciate it!
render pics and actual colors are always going to be different. Look at my carbon compared to the orange in the renders. Those pictures have been enhanced and viberance added .. You got the color advertised . sorry to say.
It wasn’t a render, it was an actual prototype per the OP.
I only posted for the curious, I’m very happy with the quality of the board itself, just wanted to point out the color differences with pictures, as my last post didn’t have any.
Post by: p_blaze on Wed, 07 March 2018, 11:43:45
Just for the curious, this is the Blue Magenta (purple) that I ordered.
(Attachment Link)
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But this is what I received.
(Attachment Link)
__________________________
Even with the flaws, it’s still beautiful and the BEST quality I have ever seen, but hoping Jay can still hook me up with the purple I wanted. :(
I too am curious on how to solder the breakout usb properly, if someone could kindly make a guide I would appreciate it!
render pics and actual colors are always going to be different. Look at my carbon compared to the orange in the renders. Those pictures have been enhanced and viberance added .. You got the color advertised . sorry to say.
Those were prototypes, not renders if I remember correctly
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 07 March 2018, 13:11:03
Just for the curious, this is the Blue Magenta (purple) that I ordered.
(Attachment Link)
_________________________
But this is what I received.
(Attachment Link)
__________________________
Even with the flaws, it’s still beautiful and the BEST quality I have ever seen, but hoping Jay can still hook me up with the purple I wanted. :(
I too am curious on how to solder the breakout usb properly, if someone could kindly make a guide I would appreciate it!
render pics and actual colors are always going to be different. Look at my carbon compared to the orange in the renders. Those pictures have been enhanced and viberance added .. You got the color advertised . sorry to say.
It wasn’t a render, it was an actual prototype per the OP.
I only posted for the curious, I’m very happy with the quality of the board itself, just wanted to point out the color differences with pictures, as my last post didn’t have any.
welcome to the world of anodizing consistency: a thing that doesn't exist
no two batches of anodized objects will look the same
Post by: p_blaze on Wed, 07 March 2018, 13:24:26
Just for the curious, this is the Blue Magenta (purple) that I ordered.
(Attachment Link)
_________________________
But this is what I received.
(Attachment Link)
__________________________
Even with the flaws, it’s still beautiful and the BEST quality I have ever seen, but hoping Jay can still hook me up with the purple I wanted. :(
I too am curious on how to solder the breakout usb properly, if someone could kindly make a guide I would appreciate it!
render pics and actual colors are always going to be different. Look at my carbon compared to the orange in the renders. Those pictures have been enhanced and viberance added .. You got the color advertised . sorry to say.
It wasn’t a render, it was an actual prototype per the OP.
I only posted for the curious, I’m very happy with the quality of the board itself, just wanted to point out the color differences with pictures, as my last post didn’t have any.
welcome to the world of anodizing consistency: a thing that doesn't exist
no two batches of anodized objects will look the same
yes, but these are completely different colors... he wanted purple and got blue.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 07 March 2018, 13:26:12
Just for the curious, this is the Blue Magenta (purple) that I ordered.
(Attachment Link)
_________________________
But this is what I received.
(Attachment Link)
__________________________
Even with the flaws, it’s still beautiful and the BEST quality I have ever seen, but hoping Jay can still hook me up with the purple I wanted. :(
I too am curious on how to solder the breakout usb properly, if someone could kindly make a guide I would appreciate it!
render pics and actual colors are always going to be different. Look at my carbon compared to the orange in the renders. Those pictures have been enhanced and viberance added .. You got the color advertised . sorry to say.
It wasn’t a render, it was an actual prototype per the OP.
I only posted for the curious, I’m very happy with the quality of the board itself, just wanted to point out the color differences with pictures, as my last post didn’t have any.
welcome to the world of anodizing consistency: a thing that doesn't exist
no two batches of anodized objects will look the same
yes, but these are completely different colors... he wanted purple and got blue.
probably left it in the bath for 10 seconds too long
Post by: swangful on Wed, 07 March 2018, 13:52:34
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/888db30033bb1bce0ee6d1c6aebb5883.jpg)
Post by: DillonHightower on Wed, 07 March 2018, 14:27:41
Not sure if this is all the tops in one picture but there arent any purple ones here...Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/888db30033bb1bce0ee6d1c6aebb5883.jpg)
there were over 100 orders . so I doute that is all of them
Post by: poolside on Wed, 07 March 2018, 17:44:37
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/a2ec1e8ebd9443afb57983f2d8267910.jpg)
From this post: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2552849#msg2552849 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2552849#msg2552849)
Post by: p_blaze on Wed, 07 March 2018, 17:54:18
This picture shows two pairs of purple and blue bottoms. The purple ones must be the "Violet purple" or the "Light purple" from the color reference album. The order list has two light purple bottoms and two violet purple.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/a2ec1e8ebd9443afb57983f2d8267910.jpg)
From this post: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2552849#msg2552849 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2552849#msg2552849)
The purple bottoms here look nothing like what Unforgivable received
Just for the curious, this is the Blue Magenta (purple) that I ordered.
(Attachment Link)
_________________________
But this is what I received.
(Attachment Link)
__________________________
Even with the flaws (mentioned in my previous post), it’s still beautiful and the BEST quality I have ever seen, but hoping Jay can still hook me up with the purple I wanted. :(
I too am curious on how to solder the breakout usb properly, if someone could kindly make a guide I would appreciate it!
That is a huge difference in color...
zzjayfree I know you are a bit swamped here but you should take a look at this
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 07 March 2018, 21:31:17
The purple bottoms here look nothing like what Unforgivable received
Hi p_blaze, just to be clear Unforgivable ordered blue magenta not purple. There's nothing surprising if the color look nothing like what he received. Those two would most likely to be violet purple, but without close up pic I can't tell for sure.
This wasn’t the color I ordered
Hi Unforgivable, sorry dude I know there's appears to be some color difference between the prototype and final product. As Puddsy said there's hardly any consistency in anodizing world. I personally warned EVE for providing all these color options. But he insisted to go this way as some of the buyers didn't like the fixed options we initially provided. Not only anodizing inconsistency but also the lighting condition, equipment used for photo can contribute to the color difference. Now I'm not trying to talk myself or EVE out of this, just seeking your understanding of the situation. I'll pass this along to EVE and see what we can do for you.
Stripes were supposed to match the bottom piece, but mine match the top. Anything I can do about that?
Sorry about the mix up. I'll make sure you get those fixed. Invisible stripes aren't as sexy.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 07 March 2018, 21:46:34
Post by: p_blaze on Wed, 07 March 2018, 21:52:01
The purple bottoms here look nothing like what Unforgivable received
Hi p_blaze, just to be clear Unforgivable ordered blue magenta not purple. There's nothing surprising if the color look nothing like what he received. Those two would most likely to be violet purple, but without close up pic I can't tell for sure.This wasn’t the color I ordered
Hi Unforgivable, sorry dude I know there's appears to be some color difference between the prototype and final product. As Puddsy said there's hardly any consistency in anodizing world. I personally warned EVE for providing all these color options. But he insisted to go this way as some of the buyers didn't like the fixed options we initially provided. Not only anodizing inconsistency but also the lighting condition, equipment used for photo can contribute to the color difference. Now I'm not trying to talk myself or EVE out of this, just seeking your understanding of the situation. I'll pass this along to EVE and see what we can do for you.Stripes were supposed to match the bottom piece, but mine match the top. Anything I can do about that?
Sorry about the mix up. I'll make sure you get those fixed. Invisible stripes aren't as sexy.
Thanks for dropping by! The blue magenta looked stunning in the prototypes, and it was a bit irritating, even for an outsider, to see a murky blueish color in its stead. Anyways, I mean no ill in calling this to attention, I just didn't want this to become a more heated issue before an official response was given, especially for a board I want a second round of. I hope that EVE can help fix this issue and the rest of the gb goes smoothly :)
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 07 March 2018, 23:14:18
I've sent out invoices to the buyers for first batch of 58 boards I received. I'll be sending reminders shortly and update status in order sheet as invoiced. If you see your status as blank and have not received an invoice, it means you are in the next batch.
OK now I'm kinda concerned then, because I paid my invoice on 28th Feb and have seen all these other updates but mine still showing nothing. I double checked with Paypal, transaction ID is 1GF05674TK477424B, is there any issue with my payment on your end?
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 07 March 2018, 23:15:17
I've sent out invoices to the buyers for first batch of 58 boards I received. I'll be sending reminders shortly and update status in order sheet as invoiced. If you see your status as blank and have not received an invoice, it means you are in the next batch.
OK now I'm kinda concerned then, because I paid my invoice on 28th Feb and have seen all these other updates but mine still showing nothing. I double checked with Paypal, transaction ID is 1GF05674TK477424B, is there any issue with my payment on your end?
No issue, just my proxy missed this order.. I've pointed it out to them yesterday, sorry for the delay
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 08 March 2018, 10:03:26
The purple bottoms here look nothing like what Unforgivable received
Hi p_blaze, just to be clear Unforgivable ordered blue magenta not purple. There's nothing surprising if the color look nothing like what he received. Those two would most likely to be violet purple, but without close up pic I can't tell for sure.This wasn’t the color I ordered
Hi Unforgivable, sorry dude I know there's appears to be some color difference between the prototype and final product. As Puddsy said there's hardly any consistency in anodizing world. I personally warned EVE for providing all these color options. But he insisted to go this way as some of the buyers didn't like the fixed options we initially provided. Not only anodizing inconsistency but also the lighting condition, equipment used for photo can contribute to the color difference. Now I'm not trying to talk myself or EVE out of this, just seeking your understanding of the situation. I'll pass this along to EVE and see what we can do for you.Stripes were supposed to match the bottom piece, but mine match the top. Anything I can do about that?
Sorry about the mix up. I'll make sure you get those fixed. Invisible stripes aren't as sexy.
Hey Jay, thank you so much for the response. I did order Blue Magenta, but only because it was said the color in the sample matched what Blue Magenta was going to look like, and to follow the labels in the picture. Pool also asked to make sure on Page 4 of this thread.
I am in doubt. In that picture from the album:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7bVdEmpm.jpg)
Is the top case "Blue Magenta" color correctly labeled? The plate color is labeled "Violet Purple" whereas it looks pinkish, rather magenta-ish than purplish.
Shouldn't that be the other way around, violet/purple top and blue magenta plate?
Good point, I just thought about that myself. I chose that combo, so I'm wondering about this too. I would be bummed out with a Magenta board instead of that amazing purple.I am in doubt. In that picture from the album:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7bVdEmpm.jpg)
Is the top case "Blue Magenta" color correctly labeled? The plate color is labeled "Violet Purple" whereas it looks pinkish, rather magenta-ish than purplish.
Shouldn't that be the other way around, violet/purple top and blue magenta plate?
Basically the top is blue-ish purple and the plate pink-ish purple
I'd say the pic is pretty close to actual color, so if you are not sure about the color, please always go by the pics. I'm not good at naming the colors as English is my second language.
I think it was just a case of mistranslation (or incorrect labeling), not an anode problem on Eve’s end. Please encourage and praise Eve, as his anode and quality is pretty amazing. Eve did the correct colors, it just seems like the incorrect labels were given to the colors in the sample pictures. It could have been avoided if Purple was actually listed as X shade of purple.
Looking forward to see what can be done about the board, scratch and pink blemishes, many thanks for the assistance Jay, I appreciate it! The overall group buy ran smoothly, so I have no doubts. :)
And apologies for the wall of text! I just didn’t want any blame going towards Eve. He did a great job and I hope he continues providing multiple colors. Also not throwing any shade towards you Jay, you also did a great job, like I said I think it was just a translation problem (Incorrect label). Mistakes happen sometimes. Regardless, thank you very much for running the Moon group buy. It’s truly a beautiful board!
Post by: stand.geek on Thu, 08 March 2018, 23:03:17
Hey jay, could you please read my PM before you send the board? ;D
Post by: Krytone on Fri, 09 March 2018, 00:48:48
Post by: SBN on Fri, 09 March 2018, 01:00:31
Just would like to ask if the tracking should be dhl cause mine was updated for a while but nothing comes up in dhl site.
Try DHL Express: http://www.dhl.com/en/express/tracking.html (http://www.dhl.com/en/express/tracking.html).
And damn are they fast...my Moon got picked up on Wednesday evening in Hong Kong and it’s already through customs and out with the delivery courier today in Berlin, Germany!
Post by: Krytone on Fri, 09 March 2018, 01:06:57
Thanks but yeah, no luck. I actually work in dhl and i can see any shipments internally and cant find mine with the tracking provided 😔Just would like to ask if the tracking should be dhl cause mine was updated for a while but nothing comes up in dhl site.
Try DHL Express: http://www.dhl.com/en/express/tracking.html (http://www.dhl.com/en/express/tracking.html).
And damn are they fast...my Moon got picked up on Wednesday evening in Hong Kong and it’s already through customs and out with the delivery courier today in Berlin, Germany!
Post by: thekingofmean on Fri, 09 March 2018, 13:26:26
https://imgur.com/a/kog5H
Can't wait to build it.
Post by: Chimera on Fri, 09 March 2018, 14:22:07
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 09 March 2018, 14:23:00
W00t! Got mine!
https://imgur.com/a/kog5H
Can't wait to build it.
that's a great color
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:44:40
Seems like theres nothing mapped when i jump with tweezers, and i want to know if i have a broken pcb before i start soldering.
Post by: jb1830 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:11:43
Anyone knows how to map/remap keys?
Seems like theres nothing mapped when i jump with tweezers, and i want to know if i have a broken pcb before i start soldering.
It's supposed to use TMK so maybe ZZ or someone else can post up a working .hex for you.
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:12:40
That would be neat yeah.Anyone knows how to map/remap keys?
Seems like theres nothing mapped when i jump with tweezers, and i want to know if i have a broken pcb before i start soldering.
It's supposed to use TMK so maybe ZZ or someone else can post up a working .hex for you.
What program do i use once i have a hex file to upload it?
Post by: jb1830 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:28:37
In any case I would wait for someone with more information to chime in.
Post by: swangful on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:42:00
That would be neat yeah.Anyone knows how to map/remap keys?
Seems like theres nothing mapped when i jump with tweezers, and i want to know if i have a broken pcb before i start soldering.
It's supposed to use TMK so maybe ZZ or someone else can post up a working .hex for you.
What program do i use once i have a hex file to upload it?
How did you solder the mini usb? :O
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:47:23
Like that!That would be neat yeah.Anyone knows how to map/remap keys?
Seems like theres nothing mapped when i jump with tweezers, and i want to know if i have a broken pcb before i start soldering.
It's supposed to use TMK so maybe ZZ or someone else can post up a working .hex for you.
What program do i use once i have a hex file to upload it?
How did you solder the mini usb? :O
Just looked up wire pictures on google and this should be it. Board gets recognized but seems like theres no keymap on it yet.
So hope anyone has a .hex file for me.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/2b9521da6abb026c6d103e338a95a26d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/70b4e937601fb6ef3912173c24a947a9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/7f82090e30c00ced48815d5370420b63.jpg)
Post by: swangful on Fri, 09 March 2018, 17:22:34
Like that!That would be neat yeah.Anyone knows how to map/remap keys?
Seems like theres nothing mapped when i jump with tweezers, and i want to know if i have a broken pcb before i start soldering.
It's supposed to use TMK so maybe ZZ or someone else can post up a working .hex for you.
What program do i use once i have a hex file to upload it?
How did you solder the mini usb? :O
Just looked up wire pictures on google and this should be it. Board gets recognized but seems like theres no keymap on it yet.
So hope anyone has a .hex file for me.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/2b9521da6abb026c6d103e338a95a26d.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/70b4e937601fb6ef3912173c24a947a9.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/7f82090e30c00ced48815d5370420b63.jpg)
Awesome, thank you so much! I'll hopefully get a working keymap eventually :D
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 09 March 2018, 21:15:11
I received mine today, and, holy crap, it's hefty! There's a small scuff on left side and a slightly stripped screw hole on the brass weight, but otherwise it looks fantastic! Thanks for the excellent GB! Even though it took a little longer than expected, it went very smoothly with no drama, which is awesome!
Any word on the special keycap for those of us who submitted logo designs?
Post by: zzyjayfree on Fri, 09 March 2018, 22:44:32
didnt see in the posted pics that there is a daugtherboard and looks like the usb placing in the pcb is positioned correctly from the case usb hole altho abit deeper. So that means that its standard? Just curious cause it wasnt mentioned anywhere that it is.
Hi Krytone,
Sorry I just saw this. For you it will be http://www.dpe.net.cn/Tracking.php due to your location
Post by: Krytone on Fri, 09 March 2018, 23:28:06
Thanks man :-*didnt see in the posted pics that there is a daugtherboard and looks like the usb placing in the pcb is positioned correctly from the case usb hole altho abit deeper. So that means that its standard? Just curious cause it wasnt mentioned anywhere that it is.
Hi Krytone,
Sorry I just saw this. For you it will be http://www.dpe.net.cn/Tracking.php due to your location
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 09 March 2018, 23:39:59
I got two PCBs and two plates so that I could swap out switch types easily, but, if this daughterboard is soldered to the PCB, would I need to get a second daughterboard? I'm wondering what the best approach is for this.
I received mine today, and, holy crap, it's hefty! There's a small scuff on left side and a slightly stripped screw hole on the brass weight, but otherwise it looks fantastic! Thanks for the excellent GB! Even though it took a little longer than expected, it went very smoothly with no drama, which is awesome!
Any word on the special keycap for those of us who submitted logo designs?
Additionally, every key is working except for R-WIN. I have a winkeyless model, so this will be my right-ALT. It doesn't register at all (with a switch in it or with tweeters shorting it). Has anyone else had this issue? I have a second PCB to test with, but I've already soldered the daughterboard to this one and can't desolder it now since the plate is in the way.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 09 March 2018, 23:42:45
I got two PCBs and two plates so that I could swap out switch types easily, but, if this daughterboard is soldered to the PCB, would I need to get a second daughterboard? I'm wondering what the best approach is for this.
I received mine today, and, holy crap, it's hefty! There's a small scuff on left side and a slightly stripped screw hole on the brass weight, but otherwise it looks fantastic! Thanks for the excellent GB! Even though it took a little longer than expected, it went very smoothly with no drama, which is awesome!
Any word on the special keycap for those of us who submitted logo designs?
Additionally, every key is working except for R-WIN. I have a winkeyless model, so this will be my right-ALT. It doesn't register at all (with a switch in it or with tweeters shorting it). Has anyone else had this issue? I have a second PCB to test with, but I've already soldered the daughterboard to this one and can't desolder it now since the plate is in the way.
did you try mapping something to it just to make sure it's not blank? I've had that issue with some PCBs before
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Sat, 10 March 2018, 02:37:40
Could you possible share with us how you mapped your keys? Or was there already a layout mapped to your pcb?I got two PCBs and two plates so that I could swap out switch types easily, but, if this daughterboard is soldered to the PCB, would I need to get a second daughterboard? I'm wondering what the best approach is for this.
I received mine today, and, holy crap, it's hefty! There's a small scuff on left side and a slightly stripped screw hole on the brass weight, but otherwise it looks fantastic! Thanks for the excellent GB! Even though it took a little longer than expected, it went very smoothly with no drama, which is awesome!
Any word on the special keycap for those of us who submitted logo designs?
Additionally, every key is working except for R-WIN. I have a winkeyless model, so this will be my right-ALT. It doesn't register at all (with a switch in it or with tweeters shorting it). Has anyone else had this issue? I have a second PCB to test with, but I've already soldered the daughterboard to this one and can't desolder it now since the plate is in the way.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 10 March 2018, 02:39:18
Could you possible share with us how you mapped your keys? Or was there already a layout mapped to your pcb?I got two PCBs and two plates so that I could swap out switch types easily, but, if this daughterboard is soldered to the PCB, would I need to get a second daughterboard? I'm wondering what the best approach is for this.
I received mine today, and, holy crap, it's hefty! There's a small scuff on left side and a slightly stripped screw hole on the brass weight, but otherwise it looks fantastic! Thanks for the excellent GB! Even though it took a little longer than expected, it went very smoothly with no drama, which is awesome!
Any word on the special keycap for those of us who submitted logo designs?
Additionally, every key is working except for R-WIN. I have a winkeyless model, so this will be my right-ALT. It doesn't register at all (with a switch in it or with tweeters shorting it). Has anyone else had this issue? I have a second PCB to test with, but I've already soldered the daughterboard to this one and can't desolder it now since the plate is in the way.
there might be a layout preflashed that doesn't have anything mapped to that part of the matrix
it's mostly an issue with bootmapper PCBs
i don't have one of these so i can't really help by sharing a keymap
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Sat, 10 March 2018, 02:47:13
Ah too bad..Could you possible share with us how you mapped your keys? Or was there already a layout mapped to your pcb?I got two PCBs and two plates so that I could swap out switch types easily, but, if this daughterboard is soldered to the PCB, would I need to get a second daughterboard? I'm wondering what the best approach is for this.
I received mine today, and, holy crap, it's hefty! There's a small scuff on left side and a slightly stripped screw hole on the brass weight, but otherwise it looks fantastic! Thanks for the excellent GB! Even though it took a little longer than expected, it went very smoothly with no drama, which is awesome!
Any word on the special keycap for those of us who submitted logo designs?
Additionally, every key is working except for R-WIN. I have a winkeyless model, so this will be my right-ALT. It doesn't register at all (with a switch in it or with tweeters shorting it). Has anyone else had this issue? I have a second PCB to test with, but I've already soldered the daughterboard to this one and can't desolder it now since the plate is in the way.
there might be a layout preflashed that doesn't have anything mapped to that part of the matrix
it's mostly an issue with bootmapper PCBs
i don't have one of these so i can't really help by sharing a keymap
Supposedly it's a TMK pcb, and that it's programmed on tgk.io, but i don't see a option for moon there, and on top of that i have no idea how to edit those keymaps and how to upload it.
So if anyone here knows how to do all this, please share your knowledge here. I would like to start soldering today.
Post by: jb1830 on Sat, 10 March 2018, 06:45:37
Damn, that's a bummer to hear. I also got 2 PCBs and would've expected each to come with it's own daughter board. Will probably have to solder in some extra wire and use a connector.I got two PCBs and two plates so that I could swap out switch types easily, but, if this daughterboard is soldered to the PCB, would I need to get a second daughterboard? I'm wondering what the best approach is for this.
I received mine today, and, holy crap, it's hefty! There's a small scuff on left side and a slightly stripped screw hole on the brass weight, but otherwise it looks fantastic! Thanks for the excellent GB! Even though it took a little longer than expected, it went very smoothly with no drama, which is awesome!
Any word on the special keycap for those of us who submitted logo designs?
Additionally, every key is working except for R-WIN. I have a winkeyless model, so this will be my right-ALT. It doesn't register at all (with a switch in it or with tweeters shorting it). Has anyone else had this issue? I have a second PCB to test with, but I've already soldered the daughterboard to this one and can't desolder it now since the plate is in the way.
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Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 10 March 2018, 06:49:51
Let us know how you fare!
Also, it'd be nice if the PCB designer or zzyjayfree could write up a guide on the PCB.
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Post by: nathanchere on Sat, 10 March 2018, 08:08:48
In fact, I wasn't even aware at the beginning of the GB that this would require an extra daughter board.
This is news to me too. Seems like a strange oversight to not include one per PCB
Post by: Kavik on Sat, 10 March 2018, 09:49:50
Could you possible share with us how you mapped your keys? Or was there already a layout mapped to your pcb?I got two PCBs and two plates so that I could swap out switch types easily, but, if this daughterboard is soldered to the PCB, would I need to get a second daughterboard? I'm wondering what the best approach is for this.
I received mine today, and, holy crap, it's hefty! There's a small scuff on left side and a slightly stripped screw hole on the brass weight, but otherwise it looks fantastic! Thanks for the excellent GB! Even though it took a little longer than expected, it went very smoothly with no drama, which is awesome!
Any word on the special keycap for those of us who submitted logo designs?
Additionally, every key is working except for R-WIN. I have a winkeyless model, so this will be my right-ALT. It doesn't register at all (with a switch in it or with tweeters shorting it). Has anyone else had this issue? I have a second PCB to test with, but I've already soldered the daughterboard to this one and can't desolder it now since the plate is in the way.
there might be a layout preflashed that doesn't have anything mapped to that part of the matrix
it's mostly an issue with bootmapper PCBs
i don't have one of these so i can't really help by sharing a keymap
I will check the keymapping once I figure out how to get TMK working, which is apparently the most complicated thing in the world to set up (I have to install a Linux VM; wut?). I was hoping to avoid having to mess with it since it's just a TKL and doesn't need any special mapping, but I'll report back if that fixes the issue once I get it up and running. Thanks for the suggestion.
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Sat, 10 March 2018, 09:51:26
Ah okay, thats odd that your pcb has a keymap already and mine doesnt. Could you check my previous post to see if i soldered the usb wires correctly?Could you possible share with us how you mapped your keys? Or was there already a layout mapped to your pcb?I got two PCBs and two plates so that I could swap out switch types easily, but, if this daughterboard is soldered to the PCB, would I need to get a second daughterboard? I'm wondering what the best approach is for this.
I received mine today, and, holy crap, it's hefty! There's a small scuff on left side and a slightly stripped screw hole on the brass weight, but otherwise it looks fantastic! Thanks for the excellent GB! Even though it took a little longer than expected, it went very smoothly with no drama, which is awesome!
Any word on the special keycap for those of us who submitted logo designs?
Additionally, every key is working except for R-WIN. I have a winkeyless model, so this will be my right-ALT. It doesn't register at all (with a switch in it or with tweeters shorting it). Has anyone else had this issue? I have a second PCB to test with, but I've already soldered the daughterboard to this one and can't desolder it now since the plate is in the way.
there might be a layout preflashed that doesn't have anything mapped to that part of the matrix
it's mostly an issue with bootmapper PCBs
i don't have one of these so i can't really help by sharing a keymap
I will check the keymapping once I figure out how to get TMK working, which is apparently the most complicated thing in the world to set up (I have to install a Linux VM; wut?). I was hoping to avoid having to mess with it since it's just a TKL and doesn't need any special mapping, but I'll report back if that fixes the issue once I get it up and running. Thanks for the suggestion.
Post by: Kavik on Sat, 10 March 2018, 09:58:47
Ah okay, thats odd that your pcb has a keymap already and mine doesnt. Could you check my previous post to see if i soldered the usb wires correctly?Could you possible share with us how you mapped your keys? Or was there already a layout mapped to your pcb?I got two PCBs and two plates so that I could swap out switch types easily, but, if this daughterboard is soldered to the PCB, would I need to get a second daughterboard? I'm wondering what the best approach is for this.
I received mine today, and, holy crap, it's hefty! There's a small scuff on left side and a slightly stripped screw hole on the brass weight, but otherwise it looks fantastic! Thanks for the excellent GB! Even though it took a little longer than expected, it went very smoothly with no drama, which is awesome!
Any word on the special keycap for those of us who submitted logo designs?
Additionally, every key is working except for R-WIN. I have a winkeyless model, so this will be my right-ALT. It doesn't register at all (with a switch in it or with tweeters shorting it). Has anyone else had this issue? I have a second PCB to test with, but I've already soldered the daughterboard to this one and can't desolder it now since the plate is in the way.
there might be a layout preflashed that doesn't have anything mapped to that part of the matrix
it's mostly an issue with bootmapper PCBs
i don't have one of these so i can't really help by sharing a keymap
I will check the keymapping once I figure out how to get TMK working, which is apparently the most complicated thing in the world to set up (I have to install a Linux VM; wut?). I was hoping to avoid having to mess with it since it's just a TKL and doesn't need any special mapping, but I'll report back if that fixes the issue once I get it up and running. Thanks for the suggestion.
Ha, I actually used your pictures as a guide, so I soldered the wires in the same way you did. I plugged the PCB into my computer, and it was detected immediately and loaded the driver (Kimera core). I used tweezers to test five or six of the keys before building it.
Also, I just checked the carrying case again, and there is indeed a second daughterboard. I just didn't see it through all of the foam and bubble wrap. My apologies for any panic I may have caused.
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Sat, 10 March 2018, 10:05:47
Haha okay good, yeah these wires should be the way to solder them, was just curious since you have a working keymap.Ah okay, thats odd that your pcb has a keymap already and mine doesnt. Could you check my previous post to see if i soldered the usb wires correctly?Could you possible share with us how you mapped your keys? Or was there already a layout mapped to your pcb?I got two PCBs and two plates so that I could swap out switch types easily, but, if this daughterboard is soldered to the PCB, would I need to get a second daughterboard? I'm wondering what the best approach is for this.
I received mine today, and, holy crap, it's hefty! There's a small scuff on left side and a slightly stripped screw hole on the brass weight, but otherwise it looks fantastic! Thanks for the excellent GB! Even though it took a little longer than expected, it went very smoothly with no drama, which is awesome!
Any word on the special keycap for those of us who submitted logo designs?
Additionally, every key is working except for R-WIN. I have a winkeyless model, so this will be my right-ALT. It doesn't register at all (with a switch in it or with tweeters shorting it). Has anyone else had this issue? I have a second PCB to test with, but I've already soldered the daughterboard to this one and can't desolder it now since the plate is in the way.
there might be a layout preflashed that doesn't have anything mapped to that part of the matrix
it's mostly an issue with bootmapper PCBs
i don't have one of these so i can't really help by sharing a keymap
I will check the keymapping once I figure out how to get TMK working, which is apparently the most complicated thing in the world to set up (I have to install a Linux VM; wut?). I was hoping to avoid having to mess with it since it's just a TKL and doesn't need any special mapping, but I'll report back if that fixes the issue once I get it up and running. Thanks for the suggestion.
Ha, I actually used your pictures as a guide, so I soldered the wires in the same way you did. I plugged the PCB into my computer, and it was detected immediately and loaded the driver (Kimera core). I used tweezers to test five or six of the keys before building it.
Also, I just checked the carrying case again, and there is indeed a second daughterboard. I just didn't see it through all of the foam and bubble wrap. My apologies for any panic I may have caused.
Ah so with uploading a driver you got also a keymap with it? Could you care to explain how you did that?
I just need a default keymap so i can check if everything is working, and that i can start soldering.
Post by: Kavik on Sat, 10 March 2018, 10:43:10
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QuoteHaha okay good, yeah these wires should be the way to solder them, was just curious since you have a working keymap.QuoteAh okay, thats odd that your pcb has a keymap already and mine doesnt. Could you check my previous post to see if i soldered the usb wires correctly?
Ha, I actually used your pictures as a guide, so I soldered the wires in the same way you did. I plugged the PCB into my computer, and it was detected immediately and loaded the driver (Kimera core). I used tweezers to test five or six of the keys before building it.
Also, I just checked the carrying case again, and there is indeed a second daughterboard. I just didn't see it through all of the foam and bubble wrap. My apologies for any panic I may have caused.
Ah so with uploading a driver you got also a keymap with it? Could you care to explain how you did that?
I just need a default keymap so i can check if everything is working, and that i can start soldering.
I didn't do anything special. I literally just plugged it into my computer and waited four or five seconds for the "device detected/loading driver" notification to pop up, and then it started working. I did the same thing with my laptop. I wish I could be of more help. If I have time tonight, I'll look more into setting up TMK and messing with the keymap.
I tried stepping through these videos last night, but it was 2 AM, and I was too tired to comprehend. Maybe they'll be helpful (they're for QMK, but I think the process is similar):
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Sat, 10 March 2018, 11:17:38
I think theres a default keymap on moon already, i probably just messed up. Correct me if im wrong.
On the back of the pcb by the spacebar area, there is a button. Do **not** press this, since it resets the board, with also wiping the keymap thats on it.
Ill add my usb wiring pics again, because these are correct. Please let me know your findings after soldering the usb and connecting to your pc, if there is already a default keymap.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/88d3fd39111ee27172a461bd7ca28c50.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/aba1db305b787f14fd3140bcfb51ab7a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/5e4e7cacbe8a52627eb002242fb13962.jpg)
Post by: swangful on Sat, 10 March 2018, 12:27:10
Any idea what these are for?
(https://i.imgur.com/K4OSiim.jpg)
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Sat, 10 March 2018, 13:04:55
I’ll be soldering mine today, I’ll let you knowI believe these are extra diodes and resistors, if it happens that one breaks off.
Any idea what these are for?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/K4OSiim.jpg)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 10 March 2018, 13:05:57
I’ll be soldering mine today, I’ll let you know
Any idea what these are for?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/K4OSiim.jpg)
looks like extra diodes/resistors in case anything falls off
Post by: maximm on Sat, 10 March 2018, 13:59:09
I’ll be soldering mine today, I’ll let you know
Any idea what these are for?
Arent those to connectors for the daughter board? Solder the black one on the PCB and the cables in the white one, and then you can move the cable?
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Sat, 10 March 2018, 14:08:34
The plastic parts is just the packaging, since theyre so tiny. The usb wiring can be seen couple posts above.I’ll be soldering mine today, I’ll let you know
Any idea what these are for?
Arent those to connectors for the daughter board? Solder the black one on the PCB and the cables in the white one, and then you can move the cable?
Post by: Manticzeus on Sat, 10 March 2018, 16:58:34
Alright so, i think i figured it out. All i need is a .hex file specifically for moon.
I think theres a default keymap on moon already, i probably just messed up. Correct me if im wrong.
On the back of the pcb by the spacebar area, there is a button. Do **not** press this, since it resets the board, with also wiping the keymap thats on it.
Ill add my usb wiring pics again, because these are correct. Please let me know your findings after soldering the usb and connecting to your pc, if there is already a default keymap.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/88d3fd39111ee27172a461bd7ca28c50.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/aba1db305b787f14fd3140bcfb51ab7a.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/5e4e7cacbe8a52627eb002242fb13962.jpg)
I think I am in the same boat as you except I have a keymap but it seems to be very off (my 2 is backspace for example). Hopfully we can get a hex soon soon so I can build!
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Sat, 10 March 2018, 17:34:07
Hmm very odd that keymaps seem to be different per pcb.Alright so, i think i figured it out. All i need is a .hex file specifically for moon.
I think theres a default keymap on moon already, i probably just messed up. Correct me if im wrong.
On the back of the pcb by the spacebar area, there is a button. Do **not** press this, since it resets the board, with also wiping the keymap thats on it.
Ill add my usb wiring pics again, because these are correct. Please let me know your findings after soldering the usb and connecting to your pc, if there is already a default keymap.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/88d3fd39111ee27172a461bd7ca28c50.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/aba1db305b787f14fd3140bcfb51ab7a.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/5e4e7cacbe8a52627eb002242fb13962.jpg)
I think I am in the same boat as you except I have a keymap but it seems to be very off (my 2 is backspace for example). Hopfully we can get a hex soon soon so I can build!
Jay hook us up with a hex file!
Post by: swangful on Sat, 10 March 2018, 21:19:45
EDIT: Fixed this with bootloader...now to figure out this hex business.
Post by: Kavik on Sat, 10 March 2018, 23:47:22
The first step would appear to be using the keyboard layout editor (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/) to create a layout and then using TMK Keymap Generator (https://tkg.io/#) to create a keymap from the raw data (it even has "Kimera" as one of the keyboards listed in the dropdown. I selected "Kimera 3000" in the config tab) and download it. That's where I get a bit lost. Do I have to re-build the firmware with my particular keymap and then reflash the PCB? Is that how this works?
I'm really terrible with this kind of thing unless there are explicit instructions.
Post by: Manticzeus on Sun, 11 March 2018, 00:12:46
I've been looking into TMK a bit, but, since I'm just missing one key, I thought I didn't need to go through the whole firmware compilation and flashing procedure; I just need a keymap.
The first step would appear to be using the keyboard layout editor (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/) to create a layout and then using TMK Keymap Generator (https://tkg.io/#) to create a keymap from the raw data (it even has "Kimera" as one of the keyboards listed in the dropdown. I selected "Kimera 3000" in the config tab) and download it. That's where I get a bit lost. Do I have to re-build the firmware with my particular keymap and then reflash the PCB? Is that how this works?
I'm really terrible with this kind of thing unless there are explicit instructions.
I did all the steps it stated on the tkg thread and tried reflashing mine with a layout the same way you did and nothing seemed to change, still a strange layout. Ive talked to a friend who said he should be able to swap it over to qmk if needed so ill probably just end up doing that if I cant figure it out. Also do any of you have problems with inserting a cable into the mini usb when the case is all put together? With it assembled cables wont go all the way into the usb port. Weird part is if the screws aren't in then it goes in just fine.
Edit: After checking out the layout on mine more it seems my the columns on my layout are mixed up. Like the column that backspace is on is in the column where 2 is and then 1 and grave are - and + respectively. Im not really sure why this is exactly, I have 0 experience with tmk.
Post by: nathanchere on Sun, 11 March 2018, 01:14:59
Post by: Darknight00z on Sun, 11 March 2018, 12:21:41
Post by: swangful on Sun, 11 March 2018, 15:13:28
Is anyone who received theirs already willing to share a top-down photo of the full PCB?
(https://i.imgur.com/h9qolyk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TNqxELb.jpg)
Post by: Manticzeus on Sun, 11 March 2018, 16:56:37
In any case heres some pics.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348904675883352065/422207019572002826/image.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348904675883352065/422207058578767872/image.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348904675883352065/422207037309714442/image.jpg)
Post by: jb1830 on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:50:15
Post by: rioc on Mon, 12 March 2018, 10:41:47
Great looking board. Bummer that the china gb file doesn't work. I'm hoping once I get mine in I'll be able to port it over to qmk relatively quick.
if you do, post it here :)
just got mine in, but won't come around to build it for a few days or weeks... also, gotta lube and sticker up the switches I wanna use in it
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 12 March 2018, 13:04:11
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 12 March 2018, 13:19:40
I used tkg.io to try and flash the matrix and layout of a friend who was in the china gb and it didn't seem to work for me. I think I just need to figure out the correct key matrix and it should be fine, Im terrible at this stuff though and I talked to a buddy that runs a keyboard repair/service and hes gonna swap it over to qmk and do a layout for me. Kinda sad since I wanted to do this all myself but Im not gonna have time in the future.
In any case heres some pics.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348904675883352065/422207019572002826/image.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348904675883352065/422207058578767872/image.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348904675883352065/422207037309714442/image.jpg)
Holy cow, that looks good!
Post by: jb1830 on Mon, 12 March 2018, 13:28:39
Hey there, I was away for a while, life got in the way. I see there seems to be a lot of questions regarding the mapping and soldering. As I don’t have the board myself yet (gotta send out as many as possible to buyers first..), I can’t say much about it. But I’ve request an instruction from the PCB designer. Hopefully I’ll get it soon!
A wild Pikachu has appeared!
This is great news. Thanks for chiming in.
Post by: 1905ChelseaBlues on Mon, 12 March 2018, 16:03:28
Post by: EvoPlatypus on Mon, 12 March 2018, 16:27:18
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 12 March 2018, 16:30:51
There was a daughterboard and wires with the PCB? can't find them :(
One of the daughterboards was already attached to the case/frame on mine, and the other one was in a small, separate plastic bag in the carrying case.
Post by: swangful on Mon, 12 March 2018, 16:31:08
There was a daughterboard and wires with the PCB? can't find them :(
Mine were attached to the case. PCB was separately wrapped.
Post by: EvoPlatypus on Mon, 12 March 2018, 16:36:25
There was a daughterboard and wires with the PCB? can't find them :(
Mine were attached to the case. PCB was separately wrapped.
Mine was not and is MIA.
Need to look at the spread sheet. I don't think i got the right colors either.
Post by: swangful on Mon, 12 March 2018, 16:41:40
There was a daughterboard and wires with the PCB? can't find them :(
Mine were attached to the case. PCB was separately wrapped.
Mine was not and is MIA.
Need to look at the spread sheet. I don't think i got the right colors either.
Shoot...good luck brotha
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/C1Fdach2R4HSg/giphy.gif)
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:07:59
Post by: EvoPlatypus on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:09:20
There was a daughterboard and wires with the PCB? can't find them :(
Mine were attached to the case. PCB was separately wrapped.
Mine was not and is MIA.
Need to look at the spread sheet. I don't think i got the right colors either.
Shoot...good luck brothaShow Image(https://media0.giphy.com/media/C1Fdach2R4HSg/giphy.gif)
Thanks. Sent ZZ a message. someday i will have a board for my godspeed. . . .
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:12:22
any one else missing hardware to the case? mine is missing 6 screws in the top half of the caseShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/DAaj7cG.jpg)
Have you checked inside the carrying case or around the carpet where you opened it? I had a loose screw that fell out of the brass weight when I first opened it because it was partially stripped. I was able to screw it back in a little bit.
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:30:15
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:39:52
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:43:22
Post by: swangful on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:58:46
I just soldered my second PCB to its daughterboard, and it has the same issue in which every key registers except R-WIN. This makes me lean more towards a keymap issue since I doubt the same key would be defective on two PCBs. I still haven't got around to messing with TMK.
mine is doing the same thing
I made the mistake of resetting it lol...now my board is just empty :( Hopefully we can get a functioning hex soon
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 12 March 2018, 19:37:01
Post by: Manticzeus on Mon, 12 March 2018, 19:44:51
Post by: Undergroundflaw on Mon, 12 March 2018, 20:53:46
Post by: Eggplant on Mon, 12 March 2018, 23:55:54
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[attach=4]
Overall, I'm pretty happy with how it turned out; however, it feels noticeably more rough than mira did. I'm not sure if it was intentional, but the logo on the back and the weight on the bottom don't sit quite flush, the logo is slightly raised, while the weight is slightly recessed. My top plate also came somewhat marked up, pictured below.
[attach=5]
I haven't gotten around to soldering the switches in yet; like others, I accidentally pressed the reset button, not knowing it flushed the settings out, so I'm waiting on a hex file to start checking the pcb. :(
Edit: I just unscrewed my weight to take a look at it, and as it turns out, the right most hole doesn't seem to be threaded at all, or is incorrectly threaded, the right most screw isn't securing the weight at all. I'm guessing this might have something to do with my weight not sitting flush. Hmm... :|
Also, I guess while I'm complaining, I wish the pcb supported split right shift. :(
Post by: swangful on Tue, 13 March 2018, 00:11:46
EDIT: Nevermind, just ended up using water, vinegar, and lemon juice and it cleaned the brass up perfectly.
Post by: Manticzeus on Tue, 13 March 2018, 01:24:05
Is it safe to use brass polish on the weights?
EDIT: Nevermind, just ended up using water, vinegar, and lemon juice and it cleaned the brass up perfectly.
Good to know, I was wondering how I should clean them.
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 13 March 2018, 01:47:33
Some shots for you guys:
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Overall, I'm pretty happy with how it turned out; however, it feels noticeably more rough than mira did. I'm not sure if it was intentional, but the logo on the back and the weight on the bottom don't sit quite flush, the logo is slightly raised, while the weight is slightly recessed. My top plate also came somewhat marked up, pictured below.
(Attachment Link)
I haven't gotten around to soldering the switches in yet; like others, I accidentally pressed the reset button, not knowing it flushed the settings out, so I'm waiting on a hex file to start checking the pcb. :(
Edit: I just unscrewed my weight to take a look at it, and as it turns out, the right most hole doesn't seem to be threaded at all, or is incorrectly threaded, the right most screw isn't securing the weight at all. I'm guessing this might have something to do with my weight not sitting flush. Hmm... :|
Also, I guess while I'm complaining, I wish the pcb supported split right shift. :(
I guess I'm really lucky I didn't hit that button. I didn't even know it was there until I'd already finished building it. I have the exact same issue with the right most screw on the weight. I was able to screw it in enough that it didn't fall out, but it still spun without tightening any further (not really sure how that is). I like your colors btw.
Post by: neralo on Tue, 13 March 2018, 01:52:37
Post by: rioc on Tue, 13 March 2018, 02:59:35
Is it safe to use brass polish on the weights?
EDIT: Nevermind, just ended up using water, vinegar, and lemon juice and it cleaned the brass up perfectly.
Good to know, I was wondering how I should clean them.
same... got quite a few fingerprints all over my brass parts. (will copy those first though)
Post by: rioc on Tue, 13 March 2018, 03:03:44
[...] I'm not sure if it was intentional, but the logo on the back and the weight on the bottom don't sit quite flush, the logo is slightly raised, while the weight is slightly recessed. [...]
I'm not sure either, but since my CN Edition also has the logo slightly raised I'm going out on a limb and say it's intentional. (I acutally quite like it raised)
I'll check the stripes at home again on both versions but I didn't notice mine being recessed. (Maybe didn't look close enough.)
As for the fingerprints, use the solution posted by Swangful... should work without damaging the brass treatment
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 13 March 2018, 12:04:39
mine is doing the same thing
every key registers except R-WIN
I believe the R-win is pre-flashed to be function key. I think I have it on the PCB I got for Tank. Like you guys I was confused in the beginning . I was wondering if I did not solder the switch properly, then I un-soldered it and re-soldered it, still not working. Then someone mentioned to me it was set to be a function key.
Anyways, I'll try to get the instruction as soon as possible..
For the second batch I haven't heard about anything yet, but I'll update as soon as I know.
Post by: Chimera on Tue, 13 March 2018, 13:03:04
Post by: Krytone on Tue, 13 March 2018, 20:52:03
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 13 March 2018, 23:48:29
Also got the mapping instruction in Chinese.. Not sure how helpful it will be, trying to find the English version, if some one have one please feel free to share it. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rDQhwKfjRVQxS5aDd2SKaFo8yoDeFe5n
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 13 March 2018, 23:53:48
11 days down and my board is still in China :(
Ye normally it's much quicker.. But I can see there's an update today says "customs release" from about 6 hours ago. Hopefully it will be fast from this point on.
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 14 March 2018, 01:39:05
yeah, thanks man. saw that too and was just confused why its taking long in the origin custom. But no worries, i can wait :thumb:11 days down and my board is still in China :(
Ye normally it's much quicker.. But I can see there's an update today says "customs release" from about 6 hours ago. Hopefully it will be fast from this point on.
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 14 March 2018, 04:30:13
11 days down and my board is still in China :(
Pad over a fortnight ago and still don't even have a tracking number :P
Post by: EvoPlatypus on Wed, 14 March 2018, 08:10:21
Post by: DillonHightower on Wed, 14 March 2018, 08:40:54
Any chance of getting a new PCB and Daughter-board? I have a $500 paper weight now.
WhAt did you dooooo!??
Post by: EvoPlatypus on Wed, 14 March 2018, 12:06:09
Any chance of getting a new PCB and Daughter-board? I have a $500 paper weight now.
WhAt did you dooooo!??
PCB came with two components soldered together. No daughter-board. Fixed the two components, still have a dead short of VCC and GND (HA!). Can't do **** now.
Wondering if the phantom PCB would fit.
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Wed, 14 March 2018, 12:59:29
This is simply an instruction about what i did while following the guide, and i hope this will work for you as well.
If i can figure out how to remap keys, ill put that in a separate guide.
Post by: swangful on Wed, 14 March 2018, 13:29:47
Attached is a quick guide on how to get a default tkl layout working on moon.
This is simply an instruction about what i did while following the guide, and i hope this will work for you as well.
If i can figure out how to remap keys, ill put that in a separate guide.
Can't wait to do this. Thank you so much!
EDIT: Guide worked perfectly. If I figure out how to remap keys, I'll let you know too!
Post by: Eggplant on Wed, 14 March 2018, 16:53:05
Attached is a quick guide on how to get a default tkl layout working on moon.
This is simply an instruction about what i did while following the guide, and i hope this will work for you as well.
If i can figure out how to remap keys, ill put that in a separate guide.
Thanks!
That seems to have done the trick for one of my boards!
My second board seems to be behaving much differently however. After following the steps, the flash doesn't seem to be taking. :(
[attach=1]
My second board also seems to have come with a usb already soldered on, anyone know if this is the cause of all my woes?
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 14 March 2018, 21:54:27
11 days down and my board is still in China :(
Pad over a fortnight ago and still don't even have a tracking number :P
Sorry sir, there was a mix up because of my mistake, I've now have it fixed. Your board was sent out on the 5th and currently on its way to you. I've updated your tracking and it's with DPEX.
Post by: DillonHightower on Thu, 15 March 2018, 01:37:19
Attached is a quick guide on how to get a default tkl layout working on moon.
This is simply an instruction about what i did while following the guide, and i hope this will work for you as well.
If i can figure out how to remap keys, ill put that in a separate guide.
Thanks!
That seems to have done the trick for one of my boards!
My second board seems to be behaving much differently however. After following the steps, the flash doesn't seem to be taking. :(
(Attachment Link)
My second board also seems to have come with a usb already soldered on, anyone know if this is the cause of all my woes?
Mine also has the second USB on the board not sure why some are different this is very confusing
Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 17 March 2018, 13:01:05
Post by: Kavik on Sat, 17 March 2018, 14:22:56
Just double checking, I've got the WKL coming soonTM, I need the 7u or 6.25u stabs?
WKL uses 7u spacebar and stab.
Post by: rioc on Mon, 19 March 2018, 03:27:44
Also thanks for the update, really excited to get this one in too, it's gonna be my Russian mom landing board ;)
Sent from my DREA100 using Tapatalk
wow, hope this board can help me land a russian mom too! :p
I present, the Russian Mom Landing Board:
(https://i.imgur.com/6wJm4Ma.png)
formerly known as the LK - Lunniy Korabl (but that ship sailed after the quoted typo) ;)
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Mon, 19 March 2018, 04:09:54
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 19 March 2018, 09:44:34
Also thanks for the update, really excited to get this one in too, it's gonna be my Russian mom landing board ;)
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wow, hope this board can help me land a russian mom too! :p
I present, the Russian Mom Landing Board:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6wJm4Ma.png)
formerly known as the LK - Lunniy Korabl (but that ship sailed after the quoted typo) ;)
Moar pics of Russian mom board pls.
Post by: rioc on Mon, 19 March 2018, 10:56:51
Also thanks for the update, really excited to get this one in too, it's gonna be my Russian mom landing board ;)
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wow, hope this board can help me land a russian mom too! :p
I present, the Russian Mom Landing Board:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6wJm4Ma.png)
formerly known as the LK - Lunniy Korabl (but that ship sailed after the quoted typo) ;)
Moar pics of Russian mom board pls.
ALBUM HERE (https://imgur.com/a/qfzXv)
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 19 March 2018, 21:01:53
Attached is a quick guide on how to get a default tkl layout working on moon.
This is simply an instruction about what i did while following the guide, and i hope this will work for you as well.
If i can figure out how to remap keys, ill put that in a separate guide.
I reconfigured the matrix mapping to accept an ANSI WKL layout (snippet below). The issue I'm running into is that my computer does not see the PCB controller as ATm32U4DFU, but rather as "Kimera (Interface 0)", "Kimera (Interface 1)", "Kimera (Interface 2)", "Kimera (Interface 3)", and "Kimera (Interface 4)" (five separate devices?). Anywho, I install the driver with Zadig on all of them, but tkg.io shows "No devices found" in the "Burn .eep file" dropdown. How do I get the website to recognize the keyboard controller?
[attachimg=1]
Matrix Mapping:
Code: [Select]
["1,1",{x:1},"1,2","1,3","1,4","1,5",{x:0.5},"1,6","1,7","1,8","1,9",{x:0.5},"1,10","1,11","7,1","7,2",{x:0.25},"7,3","7,4","7,5"],
[{y:0.5},"2,1","2,2","2,3","2,4","2,5","2,6","2,7","2,8","2,9","2,10","2,11","7,6","7,7",{w:2},"7,8",{x:0.25},"7,9","7,10","7,11"],
[{w:1.5},"3,1","3,2","3,3","3,4","3,5","3,6","3,7","3,8","3,9","3,10","3,11","8,1","8,2",{w:1.5},"8,3",{x:0.25},"8,4","8,5","8,6"],
[{w:1.75},"4,1","4,2","4,3","4,4","4,5","4,6","4,7","4,8","4,9","4,10","4,11","8,7",{w:2.25},"8,8"],
[{w:2.25},"5,1","5,3","5,4","5,5","5,6","5,7","5,8","5,9","5,10","5,11","8,9",{w:2.75},"8,11",{x:1.25},"8,10"],
[{w:1.5},"6,1",{x:1,w:1.5},"6,2",{w:7},"6,3",{w:1.5},"6,4",{x:1,w:1.5},"6,5",{x:0.25},"6,6","6,7","6,8"]Key mapping:
Code: [Select]
["Esc",{x:1},"F1","F2","F3","F4",{x:0.5},"F5","F6","F7","F8",{x:0.5},"F9","F10","F11","F12",{x:0.25},"PrtSc","Scroll Lock","Pause\nBreak"],
[{y:0.5},"~\n`","!\n1","@\n2","#\n3","$\n4","%\n5","^\n6","&\n7","*\n8","(\n9",")\n0","_\n-","+\n=",{w:2},"Backspace",{x:0.25},"Insert","Home","PgUp"],
[{w:1.5},"Tab","Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"|\n\\",{x:0.25},"Delete","End","PgDn"],
[{w:1.75},"Caps Lock","A","S","D","F","G","H","J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{w:2.25},"Shift","Z","X","C","V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{w:2.75},"Shift",{x:1.25},"↑"],
[{w:1.5},"Ctrl",{x:1,w:1.5},"Alt",{a:7,w:7},"",{a:4,w:1.5},"Alt",{x:1,w:1.5},"Ctrl",{x:0.25},"←","↓","→"]
Post by: Krytone on Tue, 20 March 2018, 01:28:36
(https://i.imgur.com/4oYPzBe.jpg)
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 20 March 2018, 16:24:08
Just double checking, I've got the WKL coming soonTM, I need the 7u or 6.25u stabs?
WKL uses 7u spacebar and stab.
I got WKL and used a 6.25u space bar fine. See attached.
Have I second the comments earlier about the finish. Overall it's built like a tank, love the weight, and the anodising looks great. The weights look very sloppy by comparison - loose fit and only partly flush with the case. The rear logo sticks out but at least evenly so seems intentional.
Overall it's a great case, I just screwed up by getting PCB mount stabs instead of plate mount. Waiting for the replacements to arrive so I can finally use this beauty on a regular basis...
Post by: dblack on Tue, 20 March 2018, 16:48:04
Just double checking, I've got the WKL coming soonTM, I need the 7u or 6.25u stabs?
WKL uses 7u spacebar and stab.
I got WKL and used a 6.25u space bar fine. See attached.
Have I second the comments earlier about the finish. Overall it's built like a tank, love the weight, and the anodising looks great. The weights look very sloppy by comparison - loose fit and only partly flush with the case. The rear logo sticks out but at least evenly so seems intentional.
Overall it's a great case, I just screwed up by getting PCB mount stabs instead of plate mount. Waiting for the replacements to arrive so I can finally use this beauty on a regular basis...
that looks interesting haha
Post by: rioc on Wed, 21 March 2018, 00:21:49
I reconfigured the matrix mapping to accept an ANSI WKL layout (snippet below). The issue I'm running into is that my computer does not see the PCB controller as ATm32U4DFU, but rather as "Kimera (Interface 0)", "Kimera (Interface 1)", "Kimera (Interface 2)", "Kimera (Interface 3)", and "Kimera (Interface 4)" (five separate devices?). Anywho, I install the driver with Zadig on all of them, but tkg.io shows "No devices found" in the "Burn .eep file" dropdown. How do I get the website to recognize the keyboard controller?
(Attachment Link)
this means your board has already been flashed with a layout... probably need to reset the board with the onboard switch to get it to show up as an atmega again
Edit: I can tell you this evening, wanna flash a different layer layout onto one of mine, I don't really need a scroll lock key
Post by: neralo on Wed, 21 March 2018, 01:12:52
Just double checking, I've got the WKL coming soonTM, I need the 7u or 6.25u stabs?
WKL uses 7u spacebar and stab.
I got WKL and used a 6.25u space bar fine. See attached.
Have I second the comments earlier about the finish. Overall it's built like a tank, love the weight, and the anodising looks great. The weights look very sloppy by comparison - loose fit and only partly flush with the case. The rear logo sticks out but at least evenly so seems intentional.
Overall it's a great case, I just screwed up by getting PCB mount stabs instead of plate mount. Waiting for the replacements to arrive so I can finally use this beauty on a regular basis...
Uh....Pretty sure this uses PCB mount stabs.
I mean. You can see the PCB stab mounting holes on the PCB.
https://i.imgur.com/TNqxELb.jpg PCB pic taken from Swangful's pictures a page back.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 March 2018, 12:25:35
Just double checking, I've got the WKL coming soonTM, I need the 7u or 6.25u stabs?
WKL uses 7u spacebar and stab.
I got WKL and used a 6.25u space bar fine. See attached.
Have I second the comments earlier about the finish. Overall it's built like a tank, love the weight, and the anodising looks great. The weights look very sloppy by comparison - loose fit and only partly flush with the case. The rear logo sticks out but at least evenly so seems intentional.
Overall it's a great case, I just screwed up by getting PCB mount stabs instead of plate mount. Waiting for the replacements to arrive so I can finally use this beauty on a regular basis...
the cutouts do not allow for plate mount stabs
Post by: Helldrop on Wed, 21 March 2018, 13:23:16
(https://i.imgur.com/hRzess0.jpg)
My Moon with FR-4 plate, the material which is needed to make PCB.
Post by: Arokai on Wed, 21 March 2018, 15:58:04
i dont have a tracking number? was i supposed to get an additional invoice for shipping?
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 21 March 2018, 19:43:17
I unpacked all of the components, and while I have not had the chance to test the PCBs due to the nature of the breakout pieces, I discovered an unfortunate defect on my WKL top -- right above the navigation cluster, as seen below. As you can see, the defect is a chip on the anodized black surface, so the bare aluminum is exposed:
(https://i.imgur.com/YYk16AJ.jpg)
Even though this is unfortunate, I just went ahead to report the finding to zzyjayfree and asked if I can get a replacement WKL top. The switches going into this keyboard are ready to go. I hope I will catch a break to assemble it soon.
Who here has gotten the PCB to work fully?
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 March 2018, 20:54:17
I received my Moon TKL from DHL last night.
I unpacked all of the components, and while I have not had the chance to test the PCBs due to the nature of the breakout pieces, I discovered an unfortunate defect on my WKL top -- right above the navigation cluster, as seen below. As you can see, the defect is a chip on the anodized black surface, so the bare aluminum is exposed:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/YYk16AJ.jpg)
Even though this is unfortunate, I just went ahead to report the finding to zzyjayfree and asked if I can get a replacement WKL top. The switches going into this keyboard are ready to go. I hope I will catch a break to assemble it soon.
Who here has gotten the PCB to work fully?
ok so from what zzyjayfree told me, i think that getting a new top might be hard since they have to be fitted to the bottoms, but i could be totally wrong on that
break out a sharpie and see if that helps
i'm still looking for info on the PCB, hard to find stuff on it still, i'll post in this thread if i find a good guide
Post by: Kavik on Thu, 22 March 2018, 00:51:17
I reconfigured the matrix mapping to accept an ANSI WKL layout (snippet below). The issue I'm running into is that my computer does not see the PCB controller as ATm32U4DFU, but rather as "Kimera (Interface 0)", "Kimera (Interface 1)", "Kimera (Interface 2)", "Kimera (Interface 3)", and "Kimera (Interface 4)" (five separate devices?). Anywho, I install the driver with Zadig on all of them, but tkg.io shows "No devices found" in the "Burn .eep file" dropdown. How do I get the website to recognize the keyboard controller?
(Attachment Link)
this means your board has already been flashed with a layout... probably need to reset the board with the onboard switch to get it to show up as an atmega again
Edit: I can tell you this evening, wanna flash a different layer layout onto one of mine, I don't really need a scroll lock key
You are correct. After pressing the reset button on the board, I can now flash the PCB from tkg.io. Thank you! Also, the step using Zadig is not necessary; in fact, tkg.io will not recognize it if I install the driver, so I just press the reset button and then select "burn .eep file".
Now I am running into issues with the key matrix. (Ignoring WKL layout for testing purposes) The one listed in the guide document still does not activate R-Win, even if I map it to something else besides Fn such as the letter A, or, you know, Win. I do know that this key works however because, when I use the key matrix from my previous post, it activates the left arrow key. Consequently, I realized that my modified matrix does not work right. I was able to get the arrows and rCtrl and rAlt to register how I want them (in WKL layout) by assigning their positions as {w:1.5},"6,6",{x:1,w:1.5},"6,8",{x:0.25},"6,9","6,10","6,11"], but then no keys to the left of R-WIN register no matter what x-axis value I give them (counting forward from 1 or backward from 11).
That said, shouldn't the key matrix be the same no matter what so that I can just assign R-WIN to rAlt and assign R-ALT and R-MENU to nothing for my layout? Modifying the matrix just seems like a hacky way of doing it. I think I just need a corrected matrix that 1. actually allows R-WIN to be used and 2. lets me paste my WKL layout from keyboard-layout-editor.com without "position mismatch" errors.
Short version: I think the key matrix in the instruction document is slightly wrong preventing R-WIN from working and WKL layout from being seen as valid.
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 22 March 2018, 02:16:17
Post by: DillonHightower on Fri, 23 March 2018, 08:51:42
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 23 March 2018, 14:25:44
What other PCB would fit in this? Issues and lack of support is making me question weather I should even bother with this build. Completely absurd the lack of knowledge about this software. And it seems no one on the vendor side seems to care I mean they have the money already why shilould they 🤔
take a picture of the bottom piece and i can give it a guess
don't think anything else will fit because it's got a daughterboard though
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 23 March 2018, 20:11:03
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 23 March 2018, 21:38:10
---
First of all, follow FactoryDefault's basic instructions here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2577205#msg2577205)up until the BEGINNING of step #6 where they ask you to open tkg.io and select Kimera. Don't forget to install the Chrome TKG.io Add-on (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tkg-chrome-app/kmbmjdabhpdnpeobnbdchihdcdaccidi).
By having the Device Manager open and experimenting with pressing the Reset button in the underside of the PCB near the spacebar, I found out that it may not be necessary to use Zandig 2.3 to install the driver -- as it will automatically be ATM32u4DFU after you press the RESET button one or two times.
At this point, ensure that the Burn .eep file drop-down menu shows the ATM32u4DFU device. Otherwise, press the RESET button, wait, and refresh the tkg.io website until the device shows.
Continue following FactoryDefaults' instructions...
**Here, I made the silly mistake of not setting the Col Mapping from numbers 20 through 30. (see below)
(https://i.imgur.com/DOIy6WY.png)
For those using the regular bottom row (standard 1.25u modifiers and 6.25u spacebar), follow FactoryDefaults guide.
-------------------
For those trying to figure out the Winkeyless or 1u symmetrical blockers keymapping for the bottom row, use the following in Matrix Mapping.
Code: [Select]
["1,1",{x:1},"1,2","1,3","1,4","1,5",{x:0.5},"1,6","1,7","1,8","1,9",{x:0.5},"1,10","1,11","7,1","7,2",{x:0.25},"7,3","7,4","7,5"],
[{y:0.5},"2,1","2,2","2,3","2,4","2,5","2,6","2,7","2,8","2,9","2,10","2,11","7,6","7,7",{w:2},"7,8",{x:0.25},"7,9","7,10","7,11"],
[{w:1.5},"3,1","3,2","3,3","3,4","3,5","3,6","3,7","3,8","3,9","3,10","3,11","8,1","8,2",{w:1.5},"8,3",{x:0.25},"8,4","8,5","8,6"],
[{w:1.75},"4,1","4,2","4,3","4,4","4,5","4,6","4,7","4,8","4,9","4,10","4,11","8,7",{w:2.25},"8,8"],
[{w:2.25},"5,1","5,3","5,4","5,5","5,6","5,7","5,8","5,9","5,10","5,11","8,9",{w:2.75},"8,11",{x:1.25},"8,10"],
[{w:1.5},"6,1",{w:1.0},"6,2",{w:1.5},"6,3",{w:7.0},"6,4",{w:1.5},"6,6",{w:1.0},"6,7",{w:1.5},"6,8",{x:0.25},"6,9","6,10","6,11"]Then, once you close the dialog box with the row/col/matrix mapping, under Layer0, this is the DEFAULT layer keymap for WKL style TKLs:
Code: [Select]
["Esc",{x:1},"F1","F2","F3","F4",{x:0.5},"F5","F6","F7","F8",{x:0.5},"F9","F10","F11","F12",{x:0.25},"PrtSc","Scroll Lock","Pause\nBreak"],
[{y:0.5},"~\n`","!\n1","@\n2","#\n3","$\n4","%\n5","^\n6","&\n7","*\n8","(\n9",")\n0","_\n-","+\n=",{w:2},"Backspace",{x:0.25},"Insert","Home","PgUp"],
[{w:1.5},"Tab","Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"|\n\\",{x:0.25},"Delete","End","PgDn"],
[{w:1.75},"Caps Lock","A","S","D","F","G","H","J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{w:2.25},"Shift","Z","X","C","V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{w:2.75},"rShift",{x:1.25},"↑"],
[{w:1.5},"LCtrl","Win",{w:1.5},"Alt",{a:7,w:7},"space",{a:4,w:1.5},"rAlt","rWin",{w:1.5},"rCtrl",{x:0.25},"←","↓","→"]If you want to edit your layers accordingly, simply click on Help in the TKG.io site (don't open in new tab), and a window will pop up with information about your options for key configuration! You can use fn0, fn1, ..., to access layers beyond the default one.
For example, in my case, I substituted Caps Lock for LCtrl, as I like to use that position of Caps as Control key, and since I will be using a WKL top (1u blocker), I reprogrammed LCtrl to Win, because I will need a Winkey somewhere. I also replaced Scroll Lock for fn0, so I could access 1 layer below (Layer 1).
I hope this helps! :thumb: ;D
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 23 March 2018, 22:02:03
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 24 March 2018, 01:33:12
(https://i.imgur.com/5GlqFiz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rvVMrOV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3ayQFir.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/r4MPuXf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/U7Qt3Dz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xT4THP1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6b22uDd.jpg)
------------------------------
But the reality is... after a while I really end up typing in Cherry profile once again, so here's the last shot I took:
(https://i.imgur.com/YHq3eCc.jpg)
Post by: Kavik on Sat, 24 March 2018, 11:46:01
So I've finally figured it out!
---
First of all, follow FactoryDefault's basic instructions here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2577205#msg2577205)up until the BEGINNING of step #6 where they ask you to open tkg.io and select Kimera. Don't forget to install the Chrome TKG.io Add-on (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tkg-chrome-app/kmbmjdabhpdnpeobnbdchihdcdaccidi).
By having the Device Manager open and experimenting with pressing the Reset button in the underside of the PCB near the spacebar, I found out that it may not be necessary to use Zandig 2.3 to install the driver -- as it will automatically be ATM32u4DFU after you press the RESET button one or two times.
At this point, ensure that the Burn .eep file drop-down menu shows the ATM32u4DFU device. Otherwise, press the RESET button, wait, and refresh the tkg.io website until the device shows.
Continue following FactoryDefaults' instructions...
**Here, I made the silly mistake of not setting the Col Mapping from numbers 20 through 30. (see below)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DOIy6WY.png)
For those using the regular bottom row (standard 1.25u modifiers and 6.25u spacebar), follow FactoryDefaults guide.
-------------------
For those trying to figure out the Winkeyless or 1u symmetrical blockers keymapping for the bottom row, use the following in Matrix Mapping.Code: [Select]["1,1",{x:1},"1,2","1,3","1,4","1,5",{x:0.5},"1,6","1,7","1,8","1,9",{x:0.5},"1,10","1,11","7,1","7,2",{x:0.25},"7,3","7,4","7,5"],
[{y:0.5},"2,1","2,2","2,3","2,4","2,5","2,6","2,7","2,8","2,9","2,10","2,11","7,6","7,7",{w:2},"7,8",{x:0.25},"7,9","7,10","7,11"],
[{w:1.5},"3,1","3,2","3,3","3,4","3,5","3,6","3,7","3,8","3,9","3,10","3,11","8,1","8,2",{w:1.5},"8,3",{x:0.25},"8,4","8,5","8,6"],
[{w:1.75},"4,1","4,2","4,3","4,4","4,5","4,6","4,7","4,8","4,9","4,10","4,11","8,7",{w:2.25},"8,8"],
[{w:2.25},"5,1","5,3","5,4","5,5","5,6","5,7","5,8","5,9","5,10","5,11","8,9",{w:2.75},"8,11",{x:1.25},"8,10"],
[{w:1.5},"6,1",{w:1.0},"6,2",{w:1.5},"6,3",{w:7.0},"6,4",{w:1.5},"6,6",{w:1.0},"6,7",{w:1.5},"6,8",{x:0.25},"6,9","6,10","6,11"]
Then, once you close the dialog box with the row/col/matrix mapping, under Layer0, this is the DEFAULT layer keymap for WKL style TKLs:Code: [Select]["Esc",{x:1},"F1","F2","F3","F4",{x:0.5},"F5","F6","F7","F8",{x:0.5},"F9","F10","F11","F12",{x:0.25},"PrtSc","Scroll Lock","Pause\nBreak"],
[{y:0.5},"~\n`","!\n1","@\n2","#\n3","$\n4","%\n5","^\n6","&\n7","*\n8","(\n9",")\n0","_\n-","+\n=",{w:2},"Backspace",{x:0.25},"Insert","Home","PgUp"],
[{w:1.5},"Tab","Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"|\n\\",{x:0.25},"Delete","End","PgDn"],
[{w:1.75},"Caps Lock","A","S","D","F","G","H","J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{w:2.25},"Shift","Z","X","C","V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{w:2.75},"rShift",{x:1.25},"↑"],
[{w:1.5},"LCtrl","Win",{w:1.5},"Alt",{a:7,w:7},"space",{a:4,w:1.5},"rAlt","rWin",{w:1.5},"rCtrl",{x:0.25},"←","↓","→"]
If you want to edit your layers accordingly, simply click on Help in the TKG.io site (don't open in new tab), and a window will pop up with information about your options for key configuration! You can use fn0, fn1, ..., to access layers beyond the default one.
For example, in my case, I substituted Caps Lock for LCtrl, as I like to use that position of Caps as Control key, and since I will be using a WKL top (1u blocker), I reprogrammed LCtrl to Win, because I will need a Winkey somewhere. I also replaced Scroll Lock for fn0, so I could access 1 layer below (Layer 1).
I hope this helps! :thumb: ;D
I think this did the trick! Thank you! I guess the problem is that I was leaving the keys under the blockers out of the matrix; whereas, you left them intact but mapped them differently (except R-ALT). This worked on my spare PCB, so I'm going to try it on my built board.
Also, nice photos! Which bumpons did you get? I really need a set for mine.
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 24 March 2018, 12:00:05
As for bumpons I just looked for 3m bumpons on eBay and got ones that were cheap and numerous! I personally prefer the small circular lumps over the flat ones.So I've finally figured it out!
---
First of all, follow FactoryDefault's basic instructions here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2577205#msg2577205)up until the BEGINNING of step #6 where they ask you to open tkg.io and select Kimera. Don't forget to install the Chrome TKG.io Add-on (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tkg-chrome-app/kmbmjdabhpdnpeobnbdchihdcdaccidi).
By having the Device Manager open and experimenting with pressing the Reset button in the underside of the PCB near the spacebar, I found out that it may not be necessary to use Zandig 2.3 to install the driver -- as it will automatically be ATM32u4DFU after you press the RESET button one or two times.
At this point, ensure that the Burn .eep file drop-down menu shows the ATM32u4DFU device. Otherwise, press the RESET button, wait, and refresh the tkg.io website until the device shows.
Continue following FactoryDefaults' instructions...
**Here, I made the silly mistake of not setting the Col Mapping from numbers 20 through 30. (see below)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DOIy6WY.png)
For those using the regular bottom row (standard 1.25u modifiers and 6.25u spacebar), follow FactoryDefaults guide.
-------------------
For those trying to figure out the Winkeyless or 1u symmetrical blockers keymapping for the bottom row, use the following in Matrix Mapping.Code: [Select]["1,1",{x:1},"1,2","1,3","1,4","1,5",{x:0.5},"1,6","1,7","1,8","1,9",{x:0.5},"1,10","1,11","7,1","7,2",{x:0.25},"7,3","7,4","7,5"],
[{y:0.5},"2,1","2,2","2,3","2,4","2,5","2,6","2,7","2,8","2,9","2,10","2,11","7,6","7,7",{w:2},"7,8",{x:0.25},"7,9","7,10","7,11"],
[{w:1.5},"3,1","3,2","3,3","3,4","3,5","3,6","3,7","3,8","3,9","3,10","3,11","8,1","8,2",{w:1.5},"8,3",{x:0.25},"8,4","8,5","8,6"],
[{w:1.75},"4,1","4,2","4,3","4,4","4,5","4,6","4,7","4,8","4,9","4,10","4,11","8,7",{w:2.25},"8,8"],
[{w:2.25},"5,1","5,3","5,4","5,5","5,6","5,7","5,8","5,9","5,10","5,11","8,9",{w:2.75},"8,11",{x:1.25},"8,10"],
[{w:1.5},"6,1",{w:1.0},"6,2",{w:1.5},"6,3",{w:7.0},"6,4",{w:1.5},"6,6",{w:1.0},"6,7",{w:1.5},"6,8",{x:0.25},"6,9","6,10","6,11"]
Then, once you close the dialog box with the row/col/matrix mapping, under Layer0, this is the DEFAULT layer keymap for WKL style TKLs:Code: [Select]["Esc",{x:1},"F1","F2","F3","F4",{x:0.5},"F5","F6","F7","F8",{x:0.5},"F9","F10","F11","F12",{x:0.25},"PrtSc","Scroll Lock","Pause\nBreak"],
[{y:0.5},"~\n`","!\n1","@\n2","#\n3","$\n4","%\n5","^\n6","&\n7","*\n8","(\n9",")\n0","_\n-","+\n=",{w:2},"Backspace",{x:0.25},"Insert","Home","PgUp"],
[{w:1.5},"Tab","Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"|\n\\",{x:0.25},"Delete","End","PgDn"],
[{w:1.75},"Caps Lock","A","S","D","F","G","H","J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{w:2.25},"Shift","Z","X","C","V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{w:2.75},"rShift",{x:1.25},"↑"],
[{w:1.5},"LCtrl","Win",{w:1.5},"Alt",{a:7,w:7},"space",{a:4,w:1.5},"rAlt","rWin",{w:1.5},"rCtrl",{x:0.25},"←","↓","→"]
If you want to edit your layers accordingly, simply click on Help in the TKG.io site (don't open in new tab), and a window will pop up with information about your options for key configuration! You can use fn0, fn1, ..., to access layers beyond the default one.
For example, in my case, I substituted Caps Lock for LCtrl, as I like to use that position of Caps as Control key, and since I will be using a WKL top (1u blocker), I reprogrammed LCtrl to Win, because I will need a Winkey somewhere. I also replaced Scroll Lock for fn0, so I could access 1 layer below (Layer 1).
I hope this helps! :thumb: ;D
I think this did the trick! Thank you! I guess the problem is that I was leaving the keys under the blockers out of the matrix; whereas, you left them intact but mapped them differently (except R-ALT). This worked on my spare PCB, so I'm going to try it on my built board.
Also, nice photos! Which bumpons did you get? I really need a set for mine.
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Post by: DillonHightower on Sun, 25 March 2018, 04:21:16
Post by: pandemic123 on Sun, 25 March 2018, 15:01:14
Post by: 1905ChelseaBlues on Mon, 26 March 2018, 09:37:46
Code: [Select]
["Esc",{x:1},"F1","F2","F3","F4",{x:0.5},"F5","F6","F7","F8",{x:0.5},"F9","F10","F11","F12",{x:0.25},"PrtSc","Scroll Lock","Pause\nBreak"],
[{y:0.5},"~\n`","!\n1","@\n2","#\n3","$\n4","%\n5","^\n6","&\n7","*\n8","(\n9",")\n0","_\n-","+\n=",{w:2},"Backspace",{x:0.25},"Insert","Home","PgUp"],
[{w:1.5},"Tab","Q","W","F","P","G","J","L","U","Y",":\n;","{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"|\n\\",{x:0.25},"Delete","End","PgDn"],
[{w:1.75},"Caps Lock","A","R","S","T","D","H","N","E","I","O","\"\n'",{w:2.25},"Enter"],
[{w:2.25},"Shift","Z","X","C","V","B","K","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{w:2.75},"rShift",{x:1.25},"↑"],
[{w:1.5},"LCtrl","Win",{w:1.5},"Alt",{a:7,w:7},"space",{a:4,w:1.5},"rAlt","rWin",{w:1.5},"rCtrl",{x:0.25},"←","↓","→"]Thanks for the guides, Lightning and Factory!
Post by: lzlzh035 on Mon, 26 March 2018, 13:46:14
Post by: pandemic123 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 09:56:09
In the way that the daughter board is soldered in the previous examples, the wires actually get twisted pretty bad when you mount the keyboard since the orientation of the connector in that sample pic needs a 180 rotation to sit on the housing. it seems like at least to me, the daughter board wires should be flipped in order to solder it on in a way where the orientation allows it to sit flush on the housing without stressing the joints.
Also is anyone else getting crazy pinging? I'm using the brass plate over the PCB. The board pings like crazy.
Also using the software TKL layout on page 13, every key boards except bottom right window key which I assumed is actually working but is just matched to function key with the function layer being equal to the top layer? anyone else got this behavior?
Another software question, once you load a layout, to change it does that mean you need to put the board back into a loading state, i.e you have to basically reload firmware? after you load the keymap once, the chrome app no longer detects the board.
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 27 March 2018, 10:24:49
In the way that the daughter board is soldered in the previous examples, the wires actually get twisted pretty bad when you mount the keyboard since the orientation of the connector in that sample pic needs a 180 rotation to sit on the housing. it seems like at least to me, the daughter board wires should be flipped in order to solder it on in a way where the orientation allows it to sit flush on the housing without stressing the joints.
Also is anyone else getting crazy pinging? I'm using the brass plate over the PCB. The board pings like crazy.
Also using the software TKL layout on page 13, every key boards except bottom right window key which I assumed is actually working but is just matched to function key with the function layer being equal to the top layer? anyone else got this behavior?
Another software question, once you load a layout, to change it does that mean you need to put the board back into a loading state, i.e you have to basically reload firmware? after you load the keymap once, the chrome app no longer detects the board.
I didn't flip the wires, but I changed my wires altogether because the ones pre-soldered onto the daughterboard are not great quality.
I haven't gotten pinging thus far.
You can always remap the bottom right key you mention to something that is appropriate for you. The keymap codes are in the Help section of the website.
No. Once it 'burns' the eep, the keyboard was working for me. When the Chrome app detects the board, it's in "bootloader" state.
Post by: rioc on Tue, 27 March 2018, 10:26:15
Hey couple of notes from my build.
In the way that the daughter board is soldered in the previous examples, the wires actually get twisted pretty bad when you mount the keyboard since the orientation of the connector in that sample pic needs a 180 rotation to sit on the housing. it seems like at least to me, the daughter board wires should be flipped in order to solder it on in a way where the orientation allows it to sit flush on the housing without stressing the joints.
Also is anyone else getting crazy pinging? I'm using the brass plate over the PCB. The board pings like crazy.
Also using the software TKL layout on page 13, every key boards except bottom right window key which I assumed is actually working but is just matched to function key with the function layer being equal to the top layer? anyone else got this behavior?
Another software question, once you load a layout, to change it does that mean you need to put the board back into a loading state, i.e you have to basically reload firmware? after you load the keymap once, the chrome app no longer detects the board.
check the posts above (page 15 for a better WKL layout), but yes, hit the reset button on the board to have it detected as atmega again.
haven't noticed too much pinging on my brass plate, but I'm using MX silent black. What switches did you use? (Or is the plate not screwed on to the top tight enough?)
as for the mini-USB daughter-board: did you solder the wires on between the Plate & PCB or on the underside of the PCB? (I've got it on the underside and after the case is screwed shut, it shouldn't be too bad for the joints. (except you wires are shorter than mine))
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 27 March 2018, 13:35:16
Post by: pandemic123 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 15:27:00
Hey couple of notes from my build.
In the way that the daughter board is soldered in the previous examples, the wires actually get twisted pretty bad when you mount the keyboard since the orientation of the connector in that sample pic needs a 180 rotation to sit on the housing. it seems like at least to me, the daughter board wires should be flipped in order to solder it on in a way where the orientation allows it to sit flush on the housing without stressing the joints.
Also is anyone else getting crazy pinging? I'm using the brass plate over the PCB. The board pings like crazy.
Also using the software TKL layout on page 13, every key boards except bottom right window key which I assumed is actually working but is just matched to function key with the function layer being equal to the top layer? anyone else got this behavior?
Another software question, once you load a layout, to change it does that mean you need to put the board back into a loading state, i.e you have to basically reload firmware? after you load the keymap once, the chrome app no longer detects the board.
check the posts above (page 15 for a better WKL layout), but yes, hit the reset button on the board to have it detected as atmega again.
haven't noticed too much pinging on my brass plate, but I'm using MX silent black. What switches did you use? (Or is the plate not screwed on to the top tight enough?)
as for the mini-USB daughter-board: did you solder the wires on between the Plate & PCB or on the underside of the PCB? (I've got it on the underside and after the case is screwed shut, it shouldn't be too bad for the joints. (except you wires are shorter than mine))
Isn't WKL win-keyless? mine is a standard TKL.
for the daughter board, underside, the wires are definitely twisted a bit if you use the picture as shown in page 13 but it should be fine, but if you transport your keyboard in a vehicle or stuff the vibrations would on those already stressed solder joints could lead to cracks
for the pinging, I did tighten it down, using 67g zealios.
that sucks to redo the layout you have to open it up and press reset? you would think for such an fancy enclosure, it would have a PCB with good SW.
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 27 March 2018, 16:10:33
The solder doesn’t really make good contact with the pad, which wasn’t all that large to begin with.
The other PCB I got also has this issue, but at least the key works. Heads up to everyone to check your PCB for this before getting to work.
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 27 March 2018, 18:25:16
One of the PCBs I received has a defective enter key, due to what appears to be a switch pin hole drilled out way too large: https://imgur.com/a/sUkYd
The solder doesn’t really make good contact with the pad, which wasn’t all that large to begin with.
The other PCB I got also has this issue, but at least the key works. Heads up to everyone to check your PCB for this before getting to work.
I noticed this as well but fortunately the PCB (first one) worked. I've still yet to test the second PCB.
Post by: neralo on Thu, 29 March 2018, 01:44:03
Second batch incoming
Email refreshing intensifies.
Post by: Jubileus on Thu, 29 March 2018, 05:06:32
Post by: rioc on Thu, 29 March 2018, 06:34:28
How do I make the moon logo stick? ??? I shouldn't have removed it to clean it in the first place. :(
you could try loctite metal epoxy... but then it's locked tight ;)
Post by: Jubileus on Thu, 29 March 2018, 07:07:18
How do I make the moon logo stick? ??? I shouldn't have removed it to clean it in the first place. :(
you could try loctite metal epoxy... but then it's locked tight ;)
I wouldn't want that! haha.
Though there seems to be a liquid applied, just have to know what it is.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 29 March 2018, 08:09:56
How do I make the moon logo stick? ??? I shouldn't have removed it to clean it in the first place. :(
you could try loctite metal epoxy... but then it's locked tight ;)
I wouldn't want that! haha.
Though there seems to be a liquid applied, just have to know what it is.
I guess you could use a clear nail polish and use nail polish remover to losen it again later if needed
Post by: EvoPlatypus on Sat, 31 March 2018, 21:38:06
If someone has an extra PCB&Daughter-board (i will take the plate too if you want), I will buy it off of you. My PCB was DOA and the daughterboard MIA. i don't know when i am going to be able to get a replacement.
Post by: vegs on Sun, 01 April 2018, 07:16:35
Have someone found a way to enter bootloader without using the reset switch? I'm sure there's some button combination I haven't found yet.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 01 April 2018, 10:50:09
Have someone found a way to enter bootloader without using the reset switch? I'm sure there's some button combination I haven't found yet.
like any other TMK PCB, you can program it to an FN layer but i don't know if there's a standard combo for it
Post by: chironex on Sun, 01 April 2018, 19:01:14
Post by: JDragon on Mon, 02 April 2018, 01:26:38
giving this another try.
If someone has an extra PCB&Daughter-board (i will take the plate too if you want), I will buy it off of you. My PCB was DOA and the daughterboard MIA. i don't know when i am going to be able to get a replacement.
Did you get any info on replacements from zzyjayfree? I am facing the same issue of a dead PCB (but at least I have a daughterboard).
Post by: metalliccharles on Tue, 03 April 2018, 10:57:06
Second batch incoming
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7aTskHEUdgCQAXde/giphy.gif)
Post by: Helldrop on Tue, 03 April 2018, 18:15:11
Of course, I can swap my brass stripes for carbon ones.
Post by: EvoPlatypus on Wed, 04 April 2018, 09:46:35
giving this another try.
If someone has an extra PCB&Daughter-board (i will take the plate too if you want), I will buy it off of you. My PCB was DOA and the daughterboard MIA. i don't know when i am going to be able to get a replacement.
Did you get any info on replacements from zzyjayfree? I am facing the same issue of a dead PCB (but at least I have a daughterboard).
Yes. Been waiting to hear back for a while. Just hoping.
Post by: Undergroundflaw on Sat, 07 April 2018, 17:40:30
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 09 April 2018, 02:22:34
One of the PCBs I received has a defective enter key, due to what appears to be a switch pin hole drilled out way too large: https://imgur.com/a/sUkYd
The solder doesn’t really make good contact with the pad, which wasn’t all that large to begin with.
The other PCB I got also has this issue, but at least the key works. Heads up to everyone to check your PCB for this before getting to work.
I have the same problem on the exact same key and also on Caps. I haven't soldered anything other than the daughterboard yet because I'm still waiting for a full set of holtites to arrive but it does look like the drill hole on the Enter goes too far over, Caps looks like it might still work though.
Post by: Butter on Mon, 09 April 2018, 18:41:54
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sun, 15 April 2018, 13:35:03
Post by: jlboi69 on Sun, 15 April 2018, 14:58:16
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 18 April 2018, 18:11:45
Post by: metalliccharles on Wed, 18 April 2018, 20:49:35
Have people received their shipping invoices?
JUST got mine, and paid :thumb:
Post by: breitling on Wed, 18 April 2018, 23:19:45
Post by: macclack on Wed, 18 April 2018, 23:45:38
Post by: neralo on Thu, 19 April 2018, 01:13:27
Post by: na7thana on Thu, 19 April 2018, 18:45:40
Post by: jlboi69 on Thu, 19 April 2018, 23:37:50
Post by: Darknight00z on Fri, 20 April 2018, 12:41:31
Does anyone know if there is a file for the plate to get it custom cut at a local store by any chance?
I would like to know too. I want to add switch top opening.
Secondly, I've sent you a pm zzyjayfree, its about my shipping invoice. Thanks!
Post by: Undergroundflaw on Fri, 20 April 2018, 18:15:21
Post by: lzlzh035 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 01:30:17
Post by: na7thana on Mon, 23 April 2018, 20:42:08
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 23 April 2018, 21:02:35
Was finally able to put together the board but have this problem where every key works on the board except to the ones to the left of the ";" key doesn't work. Don't know what is going on with the PCB since it was working fine for an hour or two and when I came back had this issue. Any help on how to possibly fix it would be greatly appreciated!
1. Are you using screw-in stabilizers, and if so, have you checked that the nut does not touch any traces? If you are and there's interference with traces, use a spacer to isolate the nut from the back of the PCB.
2. If you're not using screw-in stabilizers, check that all the traces are good (i.e. no cut traces).
Post by: na7thana on Mon, 23 April 2018, 21:18:37
Was finally able to put together the board but have this problem where every key works on the board except to the ones to the left of the ";" key doesn't work. Don't know what is going on with the PCB since it was working fine for an hour or two and when I came back had this issue. Any help on how to possibly fix it would be greatly appreciated!
1. Are you using screw-in stabilizers, and if so, have you checked that the nut does not touch any traces? If you are and there's interference with traces, use a spacer to isolate the nut from the back of the PCB.
2. If you're not using screw-in stabilizers, check that all the traces are good (i.e. no cut traces).
1. I was using screw in stabilizers and had a washer between the back of PCB and the screw when I installed them. Just to test I removed the screws and still came up with the same issue,
2. All the traces are good as far as I can see with my eyes.
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 23 April 2018, 21:22:59
Post by: na7thana on Mon, 23 April 2018, 21:28:47
I'd check the traces from the controller very carefully with a magnifying glass and that various SMD parts are soldered on well. Some cuts or cracks can be very fine and maybe there's missing solder. A multimeter could help too to check all the diodes.
Alright I'll try that out later this week when I have time to see if all the diodes work and everything. Weird since it was working when I originally tested the board by shorting the pads and even after I soldered the board for an hour or 2 then suddenly stops working. Thank you for the advice and hopefully everything is in working order!
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 23 April 2018, 22:02:51
I'd check the traces from the controller very carefully with a magnifying glass and that various SMD parts are soldered on well. Some cuts or cracks can be very fine and maybe there's missing solder. A multimeter could help too to check all the diodes.
Alright I'll try that out later this week when I have time to see if all the diodes work and everything. Weird since it was working when I originally tested the board by shorting the pads and even after I soldered the board for an hour or 2 then suddenly stops working. Thank you for the advice and hopefully everything is in working order!
Oh if it worked earlier and now doesn't, then I'd definitely check if you haven't accidentally damaged a trace or somehow joined a couple of traces with too much solder (or damaged a diode accidentally). Not saying any of it is your doing, just things to rule out.
Post by: na7thana on Mon, 23 April 2018, 22:06:52
I'd check the traces from the controller very carefully with a magnifying glass and that various SMD parts are soldered on well. Some cuts or cracks can be very fine and maybe there's missing solder. A multimeter could help too to check all the diodes.
Alright I'll try that out later this week when I have time to see if all the diodes work and everything. Weird since it was working when I originally tested the board by shorting the pads and even after I soldered the board for an hour or 2 then suddenly stops working. Thank you for the advice and hopefully everything is in working order!
Oh if it worked earlier and now doesn't, then I'd definitely check if you haven't accidentally damaged a trace or somehow joined a couple of traces with too much solder (or damaged a diode accidentally). Not saying any of it is your doing, just things to rule out.
I'll check that out since it even worked after I soldered for a couple hours hopefully I didn't damage a trace or something. Might just desolder the pcb this weekend and test to see if everything works.
Post by: macclack on Tue, 24 April 2018, 20:16:16
Post by: mathiasn on Fri, 27 April 2018, 00:21:06
any update on shipping?
Mathias
btw: Paid! (a week ago or such)
Post by: Undergroundflaw on Fri, 27 April 2018, 15:57:25
Post by: neralo on Mon, 30 April 2018, 01:42:01
Post by: lzlzh035 on Wed, 02 May 2018, 17:02:33
Post by: FioraCorp on Wed, 02 May 2018, 18:20:41
Moving soon, really hope the board gets shipped before that :(
I am in exactly the same boat. Moving out at the end of this month.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 02 May 2018, 22:21:12
Post by: neralo on Thu, 03 May 2018, 00:13:03
I paid for shipping for all paid invoices. Only two left now but that's due to address change. I'll update the tracking numbers once I have them
Nice! get hype the remaining lads. We're going to the moon!
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 03 May 2018, 12:24:20
I paid for shipping for all paid invoices. Only two left now but that's due to address change. I'll update the tracking numbers once I have them
Any update on replacements for defective PCBs?
Post by: Eggplant on Thu, 03 May 2018, 13:17:42
I paid for shipping for all paid invoices. Only two left now but that's due to address change. I'll update the tracking numbers once I have them
Any update on replacements for defective PCBs?
I would also like to know about this too, I had sent a pm a while ago and haven"t heard back. :(
Post by: zzyjayfree on Fri, 04 May 2018, 22:18:27
Post by: Dystopia on Sat, 05 May 2018, 04:00:02
Updated some invoices just now, find the tracking number in order status in the main post. I'll get to warranty parts soon. Sorry for the delay
What are you shipping by? Wanna track but I'm not sure where to check ><
Post by: HS_Tri on Sat, 05 May 2018, 06:21:48
What are you shipping by? Wanna track but I'm not sure where to check ><
You could try 17track.net. Seems it's DHL Express for me.
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sat, 05 May 2018, 16:16:12
Updated some invoices just now, find the tracking number in order status in the main post. I'll get to warranty parts soon. Sorry for the delay
What are you shipping by? Wanna track but I'm not sure where to check ><
Most should be UPS, if you can't get a it from UPS try 17track for sure
Post by: Dystopia on Sat, 05 May 2018, 21:48:59
Updated some invoices just now, find the tracking number in order status in the main post. I'll get to warranty parts soon. Sorry for the delay
What are you shipping by? Wanna track but I'm not sure where to check ><
Most should be UPS, if you can't get a it from UPS try 17track for sure
UPS doesn't show any result and 17track can't figure out which carrier it is :'(
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 05 May 2018, 21:54:49
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87310.msg2541036#msg2541036
Post by: metalliccharles on Sat, 05 May 2018, 23:29:47
Post by: neralo on Tue, 08 May 2018, 04:29:27
Post by: Krytone on Tue, 08 May 2018, 05:05:40
Hmm i got a text from some number, no idea who's delivering it, and 17track isn't helping at all, guess it'll be a surprise.im from Malaysia and they shipped mine using the link below.
http://www.dpe.net.cn/Tracking.php
Might be the same as mine since we are almost the same country :))
Post by: neralo on Tue, 08 May 2018, 10:08:19
Hmm i got a text from some number, no idea who's delivering it, and 17track isn't helping at all, guess it'll be a surprise.im from Malaysia and they shipped mine using the link below.
http://www.dpe.net.cn/Tracking.php
Might be the same as mine since we are almost the same country :))
Thanks fam, but its fine. Turns out it was at home hahaha.
God damn this is gorgeous. small error with mine though, pmed you about it zzjayfree!
Post by: breitling on Tue, 08 May 2018, 22:51:42
Post by: macclack on Tue, 08 May 2018, 23:44:16
Mine came via DHL yesterday.
You must have a very strong arm. These things are damn heavy.
Post by: jlboi69 on Wed, 09 May 2018, 03:29:32
Post by: mathiasn on Fri, 11 May 2018, 14:53:21
Carbon (ISO, German) on starry night gray / carbon orange.
Post by: Ace on Sun, 13 May 2018, 18:39:26
The mars boards is nice, solid & boxy.
The ALF is angly and techy and solid at the same time.
But this one is just absolutely phenomenal. The Curves, the insets, the anodization. It's bloody perfect.
That is all.
Post by: Krytone on Sun, 13 May 2018, 21:45:00
Post by: neralo on Sun, 13 May 2018, 23:29:18
i think this board is too gorgeous to stop in tkl layout. Hope to see this board in 1800 or any other layout ^-^
That’s a brilliant idea and I now have an erection that just won’t go away.
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Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 13 May 2018, 23:53:07
i think this board is too gorgeous to stop in tkl layout. Hope to see this board in 1800 or any other layout ^-^
with a working pcb this time pls
Post by: Jubileus on Mon, 14 May 2018, 00:25:22
i think this board is too gorgeous to stop in tkl layout. Hope to see this board in 1800 or any other layout ^-^
That’s a brilliant idea and I now have an erection that just won’t go away.
Damn it I want one now!
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 14 May 2018, 00:56:37
that reminds me to test my pcb :blank: still havent got the time to work on it since i got it.i think this board is too gorgeous to stop in tkl layout. Hope to see this board in 1800 or any other layout ^-^
with a working pcb this time pls
Post by: macclack on Mon, 14 May 2018, 23:30:59
i think this board is too gorgeous to stop in tkl layout. Hope to see this board in 1800 or any other layout ^-^
with a working pcb this time pls
i think this board is too gorgeous to stop in tkl layout. Hope to see this board in 1800 or any other layout ^-^
with a working pcb this time pls
How many people had non-functional PCBs in this GB? I thought there were issues with key mapping but I didn't realize people were receiving duds. I haven't tried mine yet, waiting for some switches to come in before starting my build.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 14 May 2018, 23:34:17
i think this board is too gorgeous to stop in tkl layout. Hope to see this board in 1800 or any other layout ^-^
with a working pcb this time pls
How many people had non-functional PCBs in this GB? I thought there were issues with key mapping but I didn't realize people were receiving duds. I haven't tried mine yet, waiting for some switches to come in before starting my build.
i know a couple people got duds, but the difficulty of programming also applies in this situation
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 15 May 2018, 08:55:00
i think this board is too gorgeous to stop in tkl layout. Hope to see this board in 1800 or any other layout ^-^
with a working pcb this time pls
How many people had non-functional PCBs in this GB? I thought there were issues with key mapping but I didn't realize people were receiving duds. I haven't tried mine yet, waiting for some switches to come in before starting my build.
i know a couple people got duds, but the difficulty of programming also applies in this situation
Mine is just sitting gathering dust. The Caps Lock and Enter are both non-responsive on my PCB and from the support on other PCB issue posts I don't see a replacement as likely so I'm just waiting for an opportunity to sell the body and plate on their own. Expensive group buy lesson learned :(
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 15 May 2018, 12:36:14
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 15 May 2018, 16:57:29
Does Tx87 pcb fit in the Moon?
No, since moon uses daughterboard.
Post by: Badmotorfinger on Tue, 15 May 2018, 16:58:53
i think this board is too gorgeous to stop in tkl layout. Hope to see this board in 1800 or any other layout ^-^
with a working pcb this time pls
How many people had non-functional PCBs in this GB? I thought there were issues with key mapping but I didn't realize people were receiving duds. I haven't tried mine yet, waiting for some switches to come in before starting my build.
i know a couple people got duds, but the difficulty of programming also applies in this situation
Mine is just sitting gathering dust. The Caps Lock and Enter are both non-responsive on my PCB and from the support on other PCB issue posts I don't see a replacement as likely so I'm just waiting for an opportunity to sell the body and plate on their own. Expensive group buy lesson learned :(
I also have the non responsive caps/enter keys. Sigh.
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Post by: macclack on Tue, 15 May 2018, 17:05:53
I also have the non responsive caps/enter keys. Sigh.
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zzyjayfree, have there been any attempts to source replacement PCBs for people with defective ones?
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 15 May 2018, 17:06:28
Does Tx87 pcb fit in the Moon?
No, since moon uses daughterboard.
Technically it seems like it would work if you can simply wire the mini USB port to extend it to the opening in the case. I've just overlaid a TX87 PCB, and everything lines up well, and there are no clearance issues in the case if you desolder the preattached mini USB socket. So if you use the daughter board for the mini USB port and the supplied wires to provide the extension, I think it should work. The daughter board is just a straight up signal line extension board, there's no microchip on it or anything like that.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 15 May 2018, 17:08:37
Does Tx87 pcb fit in the Moon?
No, since moon uses daughterboard.
Technically it seems like it would work if you can simply wire the mini USB port to extend it to the opening in the case. I've just overlaid a TX87 PCB, and everything lines up well, and there are no clearance issues in the case if you desolder the preattached mini USB socket. So if you use the daughter board for the mini USB port and the supplied wires to provide the extension, I think it should work. The daughter board is just a straight up signal line extension board, there's no microchip on it or anything like that.
theoretically yes, but tx87s are notorious for having issues if you **** with the USB port
you could do it the phantom way, and just get a long cable and live with using a fixed cable
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 15 May 2018, 17:12:39
Does Tx87 pcb fit in the Moon?
No, since moon uses daughterboard.
Technically it seems like it would work if you can simply wire the mini USB port to extend it to the opening in the case. I've just overlaid a TX87 PCB, and everything lines up well, and there are no clearance issues in the case if you desolder the preattached mini USB socket. So if you use the daughter board for the mini USB port and the supplied wires to provide the extension, I think it should work. The daughter board is just a straight up signal line extension board, there's no microchip on it or anything like that.
theoretically yes, but tx87s are notorious for having issues if you **** with the USB port
you could do it the phantom way, and just get a long cable and live with using a fixed cable
Interesting, this is probably subject for a dedicated post elsewhere, but if you have a quick response with references, could you say why they have issues with the USB port? I mean the USB port is just a physical attachment with a few soldering points, so I don't see why extending that attachment is going to be a problem, as long as everything is properly isolated and correctly attached.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 15 May 2018, 17:13:48
Does Tx87 pcb fit in the Moon?
No, since moon uses daughterboard.
Technically it seems like it would work if you can simply wire the mini USB port to extend it to the opening in the case. I've just overlaid a TX87 PCB, and everything lines up well, and there are no clearance issues in the case if you desolder the preattached mini USB socket. So if you use the daughter board for the mini USB port and the supplied wires to provide the extension, I think it should work. The daughter board is just a straight up signal line extension board, there's no microchip on it or anything like that.
theoretically yes, but tx87s are notorious for having issues if you **** with the USB port
you could do it the phantom way, and just get a long cable and live with using a fixed cable
Interesting, this is probably subject for a dedicated post elsewhere, but if you have a quick response with references, could you say why they have issues with the USB port? I mean the USB port is just a physical attachment with a few soldering points, so I don't see why extending that attachment is going to be a problem, as long as everything is properly isolated and correctly attached.
something about how it's attached makes it annoying to take off, i've never done it so i can't give a definitive answer
just what i've heard
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 15 May 2018, 17:19:37
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 15 May 2018, 20:17:04
Does Tx87 pcb fit in the Moon?
No, since moon uses daughterboard.
Technically it seems like it would work if you can simply wire the mini USB port to extend it to the opening in the case. I've just overlaid a TX87 PCB, and everything lines up well, and there are no clearance issues in the case if you desolder the preattached mini USB socket. So if you use the daughter board for the mini USB port and the supplied wires to provide the extension, I think it should work. The daughter board is just a straight up signal line extension board, there's no microchip on it or anything like that.
theoretically yes, but tx87s are notorious for having issues if you **** with the USB port
you could do it the phantom way, and just get a long cable and live with using a fixed cable
I will try the long cable way with Pexon's cables with the middle disconnects. The only issue I can think of is, are there enough space inside the Moon to fit the USB connection head or I can work with Pexon to get it as small as possible to make it fit.
Anyways I will try this when zzjayfree finally ships my board. And what a great excuse to get m first fancy middle disconnects from pexon!
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 15 May 2018, 20:41:44
Post by: olivia on Tue, 15 May 2018, 21:41:17
Unfortunately I've just put the kit away again and don't feel like unpacking it yet again (until it's time to do assembly), but the mini USB port might have some clearance issues with the plate (plate goes over it). It could be okay to leave the port there, if there is enough room for the plate above it, and just put electrical tape over it. Then attach the extension wires as jumpers, to the PCB, bypassing the installed socket.
I am also getting a TX87 pcb to try the same thing :D If I get to it before you do, I'll update with any issues that pop up!
Post by: macclack on Wed, 16 May 2018, 01:08:45
Everything seems to be working, however when I press a function key like "F1" it also registers the "1" key directly underneath it. Same thing for F2, it simultaneously triggers the "2" key, and so on and so forth down the row of Function keys. Same thing applies when I hit number keys on the number row. They trigger each respective Function key simultaneously.
Anyone have any clue what could be going on or what I did wrong? I'm totally stumped.
Post by: pandemic123 on Wed, 16 May 2018, 10:23:42
Post by: icedsoychai on Thu, 17 May 2018, 00:48:05
Post by: macclack on Mon, 21 May 2018, 00:07:28
Post by: EvoPlatypus on Mon, 21 May 2018, 05:49:46
Wondering if the KBDfans KBD8X PCB might be another potential replacement to the PCB. I sent Wei an email to see what he thinks. Long shot, I know.
Would definitely like to know.
Post by: macclack on Mon, 21 May 2018, 09:04:29
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 21 May 2018, 09:06:14
Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.Does this include the USB port breakout?
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Post by: C³—Ears on Mon, 21 May 2018, 09:16:52
Wondering if the KBDfans KBD8X PCB might be another potential replacement to the PCB. I sent Wei an email to see what he thinks. Long shot, I know.C³-LDN-RGB is a suitable replacement. If you interested,GB is alive now. See here:https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95713.0
If you have found replacement,sorry to bother you!
Post by: macclack on Mon, 21 May 2018, 09:47:08
Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.Does this include the USB port breakout?
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I think so as I called it out on my original email to him but I will double check just to be certain.
Post by: Badmotorfinger on Mon, 21 May 2018, 09:54:51
Id be interestedAlso, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.Does this include the USB port breakout?
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I think so as I called it out on my original email to him but I will double check just to be certain.
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Post by: metalliccharles on Mon, 21 May 2018, 10:13:22
Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.
I'm very interested. How do we voice our interest to them?
Post by: macclack on Mon, 21 May 2018, 11:13:40
Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.
I'm very interested. How do we voice our interest to them?
Once I get a few more questions answered from LFKeyboards regarding the design, I can relay general interest to them to try to keep it organized and easier for them. I'm saying this while trying being very careful not to be a de facto GB runner on a PCB :)
Luckily they're set up to process orders online, so I just need to get them a head count once it looks like they can produce what we need.
Post by: macclack on Mon, 21 May 2018, 11:15:13
Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.Does this include the USB port breakout?
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I think so as I called it out on my original email to him but I will double check just to be certain.
No, thank you for letting everyone know. I wasn't aware of this, and I'm not 100% sure the LFKeyboard product will happen until I am able to get some additional information from them.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 21 May 2018, 12:38:19
Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.I'm very much interested. Would love to bring this unearthly slab to life at last
Post by: Eggplant on Mon, 21 May 2018, 13:14:21
Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.Does this include the USB port breakout?
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I'm both glad and terrified that I'm not the only one experiencing pcb issues.
I wouldn't mind a higher quality replacement as well.
Post by: swangful on Mon, 21 May 2018, 14:14:17
Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.Does this include the USB port breakout?
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I'm both glad and terrified that I'm not the only one experiencing pcb issues.
I wouldn't mind a higher quality replacement as well.
I'm terrified that I don't have PCB issues...yet. I havnt built the board yet but after testing the PCB i had no issues D:
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 22 May 2018, 19:34:51
Post by: olivia on Tue, 22 May 2018, 19:38:25
Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.
I'm very interested. How do we voice our interest to them?
Once I get a few more questions answered from LFKeyboards regarding the design, I can relay general interest to them to try to keep it organized and easier for them. I'm saying this while trying being very careful not to be a de facto GB runner on a PCB :)
Luckily they're set up to process orders online, so I just need to get them a head count once it looks like they can produce what we need.
I'm interested as well!
Post by: metalliccharles on Tue, 22 May 2018, 20:21:48
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 22 May 2018, 21:37:47
had a chance to look at one of these in person last night: any A87 PCB should fit as long as you can solder the daughterboard to it
Thanks for checking, I'll probably use L3/TX87 for mine.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Tue, 22 May 2018, 23:46:38
had a chance to look at one of these in person last night: any A87 PCB should fit as long as you can solder the daughterboard to it
C3 was saying B87 + Moon Daughter board. Can you confirm again?
Post by: metalliccharles on Wed, 23 May 2018, 08:46:28
had a chance to look at one of these in person last night: any A87 PCB should fit as long as you can solder the daughterboard to it
C3 was saying B87 + Moon Daughter board. Can you confirm again?
Hi C3, what should I be selecting if I need a pcb to replace Moon TKL? Will the pcb fit exactly on Eve Moon?B.87 with no usb port.You have to use the daughter board in the Moon Kit. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
This is what I went with.
Post by: macclack on Thu, 24 May 2018, 06:37:33
Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.
I'm very interested. How do we voice our interest to them?
Once I get a few more questions answered from LFKeyboards regarding the design, I can relay general interest to them to try to keep it organized and easier for them. I'm saying this while trying being very careful not to be a de facto GB runner on a PCB :)
Luckily they're set up to process orders online, so I just need to get them a head count once it looks like they can produce what we need.
Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.
I'm very interested. How do we voice our interest to them?
Once I get a few more questions answered from LFKeyboards regarding the design, I can relay general interest to them to try to keep it organized and easier for them. I'm saying this while trying being very careful not to be a de facto GB runner on a PCB :)
Luckily they're set up to process orders online, so I just need to get them a head count once it looks like they can produce what we need.
Hi guys, here's a quick update:
LFK confirmed that if we can get a MOQ of 5 PCBs, they'll produce a replacement PCB with the following details:
- USB breakout like the Moon PCB
- In-switch backlighting compatible
- QMK support so fully programmable
- Alps support (but that would obviously require a different plate)
- Lead-time is 4-6 weeks, once they have all the dimensions + some additional time, once it's in their regular order queue
- Pricing $70 + $8 USPS priority shipping US, or $25 first-class shipping internationally
They also said that if we order more than 5 then the price will possibly come down, depending on qty. At this point I just need a head-count so PM me if you are indeed interested with your email address and order qty so I can relay that information to LFK. They can figure out how they want to process the orders. I'll buy 2 PCBs if we can hit MOQ so basically half-way there.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 24 May 2018, 08:15:46
Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.
I'm very interested. How do we voice our interest to them?
Once I get a few more questions answered from LFKeyboards regarding the design, I can relay general interest to them to try to keep it organized and easier for them. I'm saying this while trying being very careful not to be a de facto GB runner on a PCB :)
Luckily they're set up to process orders online, so I just need to get them a head count once it looks like they can produce what we need.Also, Scott, at LFKeyboards graciously offered to make a replacement PCB depending on how many people are interested. If people want to let me know I can get him involved. I for one have a completely defective PCB so I may go in for 2, so I have an extra.
I'm very interested. How do we voice our interest to them?
Once I get a few more questions answered from LFKeyboards regarding the design, I can relay general interest to them to try to keep it organized and easier for them. I'm saying this while trying being very careful not to be a de facto GB runner on a PCB :)
Luckily they're set up to process orders online, so I just need to get them a head count once it looks like they can produce what we need.
Hi guys, here's a quick update:
LFK confirmed that if we can get a MOQ of 5 PCBs, they'll produce a replacement PCB with the following details:They also said that if we order more than 5 then the price will possibly come down, depending on qty. At this point I just need a head-count so PM me if you are indeed interested with your email address and order qty so I can relay that information to LFK. They can figure out how they want to process the orders. I'll buy 2 PCBs if we can hit MOQ so basically half-way there.
- USB breakout like the Moon PCB
- In-switch backlighting compatible
- QMK support so fully programmable
- Alps support (but that would obviously require a different plate)
- Lead-time is 4-6 weeks, once they have all the dimensions + some additional time, once it's in their regular order queue
- Pricing $70 + $8 USPS priority shipping US, or $25 first-class shipping internationally
hmm, my 2 PCBs are still working, but I might get in on one just to be on the safe side
Post by: metalliccharles on Thu, 24 May 2018, 09:02:07
...
They also said that if we order more than 5 then the price will possibly come down, depending on qty. At this point I just need a head-count so PM me if you are indeed interested with your email address and order qty so I can relay that information to LFK. They can figure out how they want to process the orders. I'll buy 2 PCBs if we can hit MOQ so basically half-way there.
I'm in for 1 or 2.
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 24 May 2018, 21:56:06
They also said that if we order more than 5 then the price will possibly come down, depending on qty. At this point I just need a head-count so PM me if you are indeed interested with your email address and order qty so I can relay that information to LFK. They can figure out how they want to process the orders. I'll buy 2 PCBs if we can hit MOQ so basically half-way there.
This is quickly going from what was already an expensive group buy to a painfully expensive one :( But being the big subscriber to sunk cost fallacy that I am, I would be in for this. A $600 keyboard that works is better than a $530 keyboard with two of the most important keys not working. Just one PCB for me. If we end up close to a price drop threshold I could possibly be convinced to buy two but would rather just the one if possible.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 24 May 2018, 23:52:18
Post by: romevi on Thu, 24 May 2018, 23:59:33
They also said that if we order more than 5 then the price will possibly come down, depending on qty. At this point I just need a head-count so PM me if you are indeed interested with your email address and order qty so I can relay that information to LFK. They can figure out how they want to process the orders. I'll buy 2 PCBs if we can hit MOQ so basically half-way there.
This is quickly going from what was already an expensive group buy to a painfully expensive one :( But being the big subscriber to sunk cost fallacy that I am, I would be in for this. A $600 keyboard that works is better than a $530 keyboard with two of the most important keys not working. Just one PCB for me. If we end up close to a price drop threshold I could possibly be convinced to buy two but would rather just the one if possible.
Replying to this post because it's the most recent.
Post by: macclack on Fri, 25 May 2018, 13:33:05
My apologies for the number of posts--I'm not trying to hijack this thread. At some point this may require its own thread so moderators, just say the word and I'll create one.
I'd like to provide LFKeyboards a final head-count by Tuesday, 5/29. That way if people change their minds and for whatever reason we don't hit the 5 PCB MOQ, there's still time to go with the C³-LDN RGB80% PCB GB which is looking like it ends on 6/3.
For the sake of organization, please just sign up here and I'll do the leg work of getting this relayed back to LFKeyboards
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jDnFQyOmsr0-Mm18CRnijE8W1uwVjnyFLC_ob2eSCZU/edit?usp=sharing
Again, there's no guarantees this will happen if we don't hit MOQ so please just sign up if your committed ;)
Post by: icedsoychai on Tue, 29 May 2018, 12:55:11
Edit: Nothing yet.
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 29 May 2018, 18:45:12
Post by: icedsoychai on Wed, 30 May 2018, 15:09:38
Post by: JDragon on Wed, 30 May 2018, 20:17:07
I don’t think a replacement from the original source will be available anytime soon, if at all. If you read through the last two pages of this thread, you’ll have information about the two current options for replacing the PCB!
Yeah I understand, I'm just frustrated at yet another GB with issues and a disappearing GB runner.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Wed, 30 May 2018, 21:06:41
Post by: zzyjayfree on Wed, 30 May 2018, 21:31:39
Post by: poolside on Thu, 31 May 2018, 04:23:03
If it turns out replacements are needed for them, will there be enough?
Never mind.
Post by: neralo on Sun, 03 June 2018, 02:33:05
https://i.imgur.com/hrQyTkV.jpg
absolutely gorgeous keyboard, but 2 of the keys don’t work (8 and 9 keys)
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 11 June 2018, 20:55:54
Again, sorry about the imperfection. I've found a US proxy, and you can send the faulty parts to the proxy and then they will be forwarded to EVE in China. Same thing when the parts come back. I'll send each buyer with issue(s) once I'm done.
Thank you for your patience.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Mon, 11 June 2018, 21:17:55
Or can I send to Eve directly for Asia to fix the board?
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 12 June 2018, 00:42:37
We understand that there are a couple of issues with the PCB and the is nothing close to ideal at all. We have found a much better source as PCB solutions of future GB on geekhack or rmm, if there's any.. With the new born coming in Aug, I'll be pretty busy. We'll see.
Again, sorry about the imperfection. I've found a US proxy, and you can send the faulty parts to the proxy and then they will be forwarded to EVE in China. Same thing when the parts come back. I'll send each buyer with issue(s) once I'm done.
Thank you for your patience.
Thanks for the update. I am still hoping to get a WKL top replacement for mine which came with a defect as I had already reported previously. As for PCB solutions, do you mean to say that a new PCB has been developed for this keyboard?
Programming for this keyboard was not very simple, and it would be neat if PCB developers would stick to more commonly used protocols, such as Bootmapper or QMK.
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 12 June 2018, 04:02:11
Is there a proxy in asia I can forward the PCB to?
Or can I send to Eve directly for Asia to fix the board?
Likewise. Sending from Australia to America to Asia doesn't make much sense.
I have the added problem of being on the road from next Wednesday and won't be lugging around 5kg of non-working keyboard with me. If the PCB needs to be returned somewhere I'd either need to do it before next week or after October when I get back :(
Post by: Paynefactor on Wed, 13 June 2018, 09:53:40
Post by: HS_Tri on Sat, 23 June 2018, 15:55:56
I used 2.54mm pin headers. Straight ones for the USB daughterboard, angled ones for the pcb. PCB mount switches will cause one of the connectors to stick out slighty, but this doesn't seem to impede the connection: https://imgur.com/a/DuFc2xZ (https://imgur.com/a/DuFc2xZ)
Post by: EvoPlatypus on Sat, 23 June 2018, 20:43:18
If you have a spare/unwanted PCB and Daughterboard, I will buy it. sitting here with just a case is really sad.
Side note, anyone try the KBD8x? I don't think it shipped yet, but i am hoping. Looking for anything to get this keeb done.
Post by: mkarlsson on Sun, 24 June 2018, 03:55:10
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 24 June 2018, 08:33:10
any further news? Still just sitting here with a case.
If you have a spare/unwanted PCB and Daughterboard, I will buy it. sitting here with just a case is really sad.
Side note, anyone try the KBD8x? I don't think it shipped yet, but i am hoping. Looking for anything to get this keeb done.
If you don't find a daughterboard for a while, you could just attach a USB cable directly to the PCB temporarily. The daughterboard is a simple pass-through piece to mount the mini USB port in the right place--it's not required for the keyboard to work.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 24 June 2018, 10:03:12
any further news? Still just sitting here with a case.
If you have a spare/unwanted PCB and Daughterboard, I will buy it. sitting here with just a case is really sad.
Side note, anyone try the KBD8x? I don't think it shipped yet, but i am hoping. Looking for anything to get this keeb done.
If you don't find a daughterboard for a while, you could just attach a USB cable directly to the PCB temporarily. The daughterboard is a simple pass-through piece to mount the mini USB port in the right place--it's not required for the keyboard to work.
the classic method
it looks cool, at least
and that's probably what i'd do
Post by: EvoPlatypus on Sun, 24 June 2018, 23:03:53
any further news? Still just sitting here with a case.
If you have a spare/unwanted PCB and Daughterboard, I will buy it. sitting here with just a case is really sad.
Side note, anyone try the KBD8x? I don't think it shipped yet, but i am hoping. Looking for anything to get this keeb done.
If you don't find a daughterboard for a while, you could just attach a USB cable directly to the PCB temporarily. The daughterboard is a simple pass-through piece to mount the mini USB port in the right place--it's not required for the keyboard to work.
Not above that, just wishing I could have it how it was intended. Mine didn't come with one and my board sorted out .
Post by: Kavik on Mon, 25 June 2018, 16:27:51
any further news? Still just sitting here with a case.
If you have a spare/unwanted PCB and Daughterboard, I will buy it. sitting here with just a case is really sad.
Side note, anyone try the KBD8x? I don't think it shipped yet, but i am hoping. Looking for anything to get this keeb done.
If you don't find a daughterboard for a while, you could just attach a USB cable directly to the PCB temporarily. The daughterboard is a simple pass-through piece to mount the mini USB port in the right place--it's not required for the keyboard to work.
Not above that, just wishing I could have it how it was intended. Mine didn't come with one and my board sorted out .
If you're really desperate, I have a spare plate/PCB/daughterboard. Swapping plate/PCB on this keyboard is a real hassle, so I'll probably just stick with the one I have in the keyboard. (My original plan was to have a loud clicky version and silent version and swap them out for home and work).
I have already soldered switches into it, but I've been needing to desolder them anyway since I went with too heavy of springs.
PM me if interested.
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 03 July 2018, 01:11:55
Any idea what's happening with official PCB replacements yet? This is really starting to drag out...
Post by: Kavik on Tue, 03 July 2018, 01:18:38
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:52:48
Is the special keycap for the logo designers still happening?
There was a special keycap? I am just joining the thread now as I am getting a moon and I'd like some info about that if you don't mind :)
Post by: swangful on Tue, 03 July 2018, 12:11:50
Is the special keycap for the logo designers still happening?
There was a special keycap? I am just joining the thread now as I am getting a moon and I'd like some info about that if you don't mind :)
When this GB first opened, it was using the same logo as the china moon. Someone had pointed out that the logo was an exact copy of someone else's design so there was a contest to redesign the logo. Those that submitted designs were to receive a surprise, which I believe is the keycap.
Post by: nathanchere on Fri, 06 July 2018, 02:47:06
any further news? Still just sitting here with a case.
If you have a spare/unwanted PCB and Daughterboard, I will buy it. sitting here with just a case is really sad.
Side note, anyone try the KBD8x? I don't think it shipped yet, but i am hoping. Looking for anything to get this keeb done.
If you don't find a daughterboard for a while, you could just attach a USB cable directly to the PCB temporarily. The daughterboard is a simple pass-through piece to mount the mini USB port in the right place--it's not required for the keyboard to work.
Not above that, just wishing I could have it how it was intended. Mine didn't come with one and my board sorted out .
If you're really desperate, I have a spare plate/PCB/daughterboard. Swapping plate/PCB on this keyboard is a real hassle, so I'll probably just stick with the one I have in the keyboard. (My original plan was to have a loud clicky version and silent version and swap them out for home and work).
I have already soldered switches into it, but I've been needing to desolder them anyway since I went with too heavy of springs.
PM me if interested.
Did you test that all keys work? My concern with getting another of the original PCBs is my own has 2 dead keys and there has been such a significant failure rate across the board.
Post by: Paynefactor on Fri, 06 July 2018, 09:50:25
PM me if you're interested and we can work something out.
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 06 July 2018, 11:31:26
any further news? Still just sitting here with a case.
If you have a spare/unwanted PCB and Daughterboard, I will buy it. sitting here with just a case is really sad.
Side note, anyone try the KBD8x? I don't think it shipped yet, but i am hoping. Looking for anything to get this keeb done.
If you don't find a daughterboard for a while, you could just attach a USB cable directly to the PCB temporarily. The daughterboard is a simple pass-through piece to mount the mini USB port in the right place--it's not required for the keyboard to work.
Not above that, just wishing I could have it how it was intended. Mine didn't come with one and my board sorted out .
If you're really desperate, I have a spare plate/PCB/daughterboard. Swapping plate/PCB on this keyboard is a real hassle, so I'll probably just stick with the one I have in the keyboard. (My original plan was to have a loud clicky version and silent version and swap them out for home and work).
I have already soldered switches into it, but I've been needing to desolder them anyway since I went with too heavy of springs.
PM me if interested.
Did you test that all keys work? My concern with getting another of the original PCBs is my own has 2 dead keys and there has been such a significant failure rate across the board.
Yeah, they all worked. I messed up one of the F7 pads when desoldering though. I already worked out a deal with EvoPlatypus though if you were interested.
Post by: jb1830 on Fri, 06 July 2018, 11:42:08
Anyone have any spare brass stripes that they'd be willing to part with? I received the wrong color stripes, and didn't bother ordering spare brass stripes, so I'm looking for some replacements. Starry night grey would work too, but I'm not expecting anyone to have spares of that.
PM me if you're interested and we can work something out.
Lol I have spare starry night stripes. Send me a pic of your purple ones!
(https://i.imgur.com/APHFaIY.jpg)
Post by: Paynefactor on Fri, 06 July 2018, 20:17:52
Anyone have any spare brass stripes that they'd be willing to part with? I received the wrong color stripes, and didn't bother ordering spare brass stripes, so I'm looking for some replacements. Starry night grey would work too, but I'm not expecting anyone to have spares of that.
PM me if you're interested and we can work something out.
Lol I have spare starry night stripes. Send me a pic of your purple ones!
Thanks! I sent you a PM.
Post by: neralo on Fri, 06 July 2018, 22:32:19
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Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 06 July 2018, 22:45:28
So any update on the pcb replacement situation? Or am I gonna have to get a different pcb entirely that does work.You might have better luck with the C3-LDN80, a TX87 PCB, or Hineybush's upcoming H87 PCB if you don't get an update from zzyjayfree!
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Post by: neralo on Sat, 07 July 2018, 06:43:26
So any update on the pcb replacement situation? Or am I gonna have to get a different pcb entirely that does work.You might have better luck with the C3-LDN80, a TX87 PCB, or Hineybush's upcoming H87 PCB if you don't get an update from zzyjayfree!
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Yeah im planning to go with hineys h87 if zzjayfree doesn’t get back to me in time. Though either way I’d still like a replacement pcb, simply because I paid for a working pcb, so I should get a working pcb.
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Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 10 July 2018, 09:13:10
Yeah im planning to go with hineys h87 if zzjayfree doesn’t get back to me in time. Though either way I’d still like a replacement pcb, simply because I paid for a working pcb, so I should get a working pcb.
I would think it's moreso eve who **** the bed on this one, and I would guess lack of updates from zzjayfree reflect that.
I would still appreciate even just a confirmation of that though.
Post by: nathanchere on Fri, 13 July 2018, 05:04:07
We understand that there are a couple of issues with the PCB and the is nothing close to ideal at all. We have found a much better source as PCB solutions of future GB on geekhack or rmm, if there's any.. With the new born coming in Aug, I'll be pretty busy. We'll see.
Again, sorry about the imperfection. I've found a US proxy, and you can send the faulty parts to the proxy and then they will be forwarded to EVE in China. Same thing when the parts come back. I'll send each buyer with issue(s) once I'm done.
Thank you for your patience.
Is there any better avenue of contacting EVE about this directly perhaps? Since I guess you are not going to be any less pressed for time when Project Newborn drops.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 13 July 2018, 14:52:37
Post by: rioc on Sun, 15 July 2018, 03:41:23
Is there a plan to make a 60% or 65% Moon anytime soon?don't think so
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 15 July 2018, 22:14:42
Is there a plan to make a 60% or 65% Moon anytime soon?don't think so
correct
not in the cards at all
Post by: EVE on Mon, 16 July 2018, 22:28:29
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 16 July 2018, 22:32:50
Yes, I will finish all the progress in progress. There is moon 65% 60 now. :thumb:
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Post by: EVE on Mon, 16 July 2018, 22:39:42
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 16 July 2018, 22:42:28
I like this style very much, but ZZ doesn't know who sent it to me. I feel lucky to have done a few samples, but I like it very much. I don't know what you think, very close to the MiraSE keypad.
EVE, this seems to be the interest check for that keyboard: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90194.0
I always like HHKB layout boards, and I do like the side profile of that. There's always quite a few HHKB layout boards coming out each year, though. Speaking of the MIRA SE keypad, I hope that happens soon so I can have it next to my MIRA SE. :thumb:
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 16 July 2018, 22:45:12
I like this style very much, but ZZ doesn't know who sent it to me. I feel lucky to have done a few samples, but I like it very much. I don't know what you think, very close to the MiraSE keypad.
EVE, this seems to be the interest check for that keyboard: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90194.0
I always like HHKB layout boards, and I do like the side profile of that. There's always quite a few HHKB layout boards coming out each year, though. Speaking of the MIRA SE keypad, I hope that happens soon so I can have it next to my MIRA SE. :thumb:
Hey, I designed that. The project just sort of fizzled out, last I heard there was issues with the PCB?
Post by: EVE on Mon, 16 July 2018, 22:58:12
Post by: metalliccharles on Mon, 16 July 2018, 23:07:42
Post by: breitling on Tue, 17 July 2018, 17:05:27
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 17 July 2018, 17:15:52
My board was reset when I received it and I never touched the reset button.. but went through the trouble of re-programming it Kimera with the instructions here so I could test it... only to find two dead keys... Argh... then I took a real close look at the diodes on those two keys and noticed that they looked like the left contacts were not touching the pads because the diode was installed too far to the left and it missed the pad so I re-soldered the two Diodes and boom - now working! Took me a few months to get around to building this board but finally looks like I can do it.
Fantastic news! Did you manage to program it alright using the guides that have been provided?
I hope the build goes well!
Post by: breitling on Tue, 17 July 2018, 22:43:15
My board was reset when I received it and I never touched the reset button.. but went through the trouble of re-programming it Kimera with the instructions here so I could test it... only to find two dead keys... Argh... then I took a real close look at the diodes on those two keys and noticed that they looked like the left contacts were not touching the pads because the diode was installed too far to the left and it missed the pad so I re-soldered the two Diodes and boom - now working! Took me a few months to get around to building this board but finally looks like I can do it.
Fantastic news! Did you manage to program it alright using the guides that have been provided?
I hope the build goes well!
I did follow the guides, and they helped immensely. Done this many times before but it never seems to stick lol. Thanks a bunch for the help!
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 18 July 2018, 02:12:48
Yes, I will finish all the progress in progress. There is moon 65% 60 now. :thumb:
Maybe could address all the people with issues with the PCB for the last buy before starting yet another moon project? :/
Still the most expensive paperweight I own.
Post by: EVE on Wed, 18 July 2018, 02:43:40
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 18 July 2018, 02:45:35
Sorry brother actually PCB I paid the most expensive cost of production cost making the most failure cost, I understand everyone's mood, but I will use the most love heart to solve the problem, I have received the ZZ after sale list including the miraSE has been arranged in the process of the new express to you old iron.Thank you EVE for addressing this. I hope this is all taken care of soon.
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Post by: Pendylan on Thu, 19 July 2018, 21:45:32
I just soldered the USB connector wires to the PCB like in the pics posted in this thread and plugged it into the PC. No usb device detected with either board. Here is a pic of my soldering the daughterboard:
[attach=1][attach=2]
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 19 July 2018, 21:49:01
Hey, sorry I'm super late to this, but I just got the chance to start building and I can't get the computer to recognize either of the 2 PCBs I got. Am I doing something wrong, or are the PCB issues that common? I only received 1 daughterboard, so that could be what's not working, it's hard to test that though. I'm pretty new at this though so any help would be really appreciated it.
I just soldered the USB connector wires to the PCB like in the pics posted in this thread and plugged it into the PC. No usb device detected with either board. Here is a pic of my soldering the daughterboard:
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
Try pressing the RESET button on the bottom of the PCB. It should be near the spacebar holes. Do this while the PCB is connected.
Post by: Pendylan on Thu, 19 July 2018, 22:18:13
Hey, sorry I'm super late to this, but I just got the chance to start building and I can't get the computer to recognize either of the 2 PCBs I got. Am I doing something wrong, or are the PCB issues that common? I only received 1 daughterboard, so that could be what's not working, it's hard to test that though. I'm pretty new at this though so any help would be really appreciated it.
I just soldered the USB connector wires to the PCB like in the pics posted in this thread and plugged it into the PC. No usb device detected with either board. Here is a pic of my soldering the daughterboard:
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
Try pressing the RESET button on the bottom of the PCB. It should be near the spacebar holes. Do this while the PCB is connected.
Thank you for the help Lightning. I gave it a shot but unfortunately neither of the PCBs were detected even after hitting the reset button while plugged in.
Post by: Pendylan on Fri, 20 July 2018, 22:17:26
some photos to illustrate my meaning:
Swangful's pcb:
[attach=1]
my pcbs
[attach=2]
Post by: poolside on Sat, 21 July 2018, 02:52:32
I'm hoping I've found the problem with my PCB's, but I'm not sure what to look for to fix it though.. All of the pcbs I've worked on have been pre-soldered, and when I looked back swangful's photo I noticed his PCB had a red box below the daughterboard connection point that mine don't have. Is this an additional part that I need to get from somewhere and install on the pcb before it will work, or should it have come already installed or with the board? I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm just really hoping to get this board to work.
some photos to illustrate my meaning:
Swangful's pcb:
(Attachment Link)
my pcbs
(Attachment Link)
One of my PCBs is also missing that tiny red board. It has the controller and the PCB won't work without it. It should have come pre-soldered.
Post by: swangful on Sun, 22 July 2018, 10:46:48
I'm hoping I've found the problem with my PCB's, but I'm not sure what to look for to fix it though.. All of the pcbs I've worked on have been pre-soldered, and when I looked back swangful's photo I noticed his PCB had a red box below the daughterboard connection point that mine don't have. Is this an additional part that I need to get from somewhere and install on the pcb before it will work, or should it have come already installed or with the board? I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm just really hoping to get this board to work.
some photos to illustrate my meaning:
Swangful's pcb:
(Attachment Link)
my pcbs
(Attachment Link)
Oh boy...it should have come with them pre-soldered.
Post by: Pendylan on Mon, 23 July 2018, 10:09:05
I'm hoping I've found the problem with my PCB's, but I'm not sure what to look for to fix it though.. All of the pcbs I've worked on have been pre-soldered, and when I looked back swangful's photo I noticed his PCB had a red box below the daughterboard connection point that mine don't have. Is this an additional part that I need to get from somewhere and install on the pcb before it will work, or should it have come already installed or with the board? I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm just really hoping to get this board to work.
some photos to illustrate my meaning:
Swangful's pcb:
(Attachment Link)
my pcbs
(Attachment Link)
Oh boy...it should have come with them pre-soldered.
Thank you for the replies swangful and poolside. That's a pretty big bummer, but at least I can stop messing with it now that I know they're duds. I've already sent ZZ a pm about the dead PCBs, but in case that doesn't pan out, has anyone found a good alternative pcb that works with the moon daughterboard so we can use a detachable cable?
Post by: swangful on Mon, 23 July 2018, 18:01:15
I'm hoping I've found the problem with my PCB's, but I'm not sure what to look for to fix it though.. All of the pcbs I've worked on have been pre-soldered, and when I looked back swangful's photo I noticed his PCB had a red box below the daughterboard connection point that mine don't have. Is this an additional part that I need to get from somewhere and install on the pcb before it will work, or should it have come already installed or with the board? I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm just really hoping to get this board to work.
some photos to illustrate my meaning:
Swangful's pcb:
(Attachment Link)
my pcbs
(Attachment Link)
Oh boy...it should have come with them pre-soldered.
Thank you for the replies swangful and poolside. That's a pretty big bummer, but at least I can stop messing with it now that I know they're duds. I've already sent ZZ a pm about the dead PCBs, but in case that doesn't pan out, has anyone found a good alternative pcb that works with the moon daughterboard so we can use a detachable cable?
This is an option https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95713.0
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 24 July 2018, 04:41:40
This is an option https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95713.0Looks like that closed over a month ago. Even then:
* would need to de-solder the mini-USB connector to connect the daughterboard to fit the case
* no detail on what is meant by 'programmable' - yet another closed-source firmware PCB is really not appealing at this level.
Other than for those two points it looks really appealing if they do another round, but I'm still maintaining hope for a resolution through zz and/or EVE.
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 24 July 2018, 07:05:13
Hineybush's tkl PCB would work too, and that's QMKThis is an option https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95713.0Looks like that closed over a month ago. Even then:
* would need to de-solder the mini-USB connector to connect the daughterboard to fit the case
* no detail on what is meant by 'programmable' - yet another closed-source firmware PCB is really not appealing at this level.
Other than for those two points it looks really appealing if they do another round, but I'm still maintaining hope for a resolution through zz and/or EVE.
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Post by: EVE on Wed, 25 July 2018, 02:25:26
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 28 July 2018, 08:01:56
PCB has contacted the manufacturer to re customize, the process needs a point time arrow color problem has been in the oxidation process, MiraSE I mended 5 sets of keyboard including copper weight people do not need to re - fill the express, my side everything is ready to make up for the needs of everyone. I'll be here forever. Thank you for understanding and tolerance.I'm still waiting for a black WKL top. When will the machined pieces be done?
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Post by: darthzero on Mon, 30 July 2018, 16:20:48
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 30 July 2018, 22:29:13
Pardon me for not reading through the 18 pages, is there a chance for a round 2? Most beautiful tkl to date imho.
probably not gonna happen
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 02 August 2018, 10:16:05
Pardon me for not reading through the 18 pages, is there a chance for a round 2? Most beautiful tkl to date imho.
probably not gonna happen
This was already a round 2. The first was China-only.
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 02 August 2018, 17:28:57
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 06 August 2018, 00:43:33
Quote
Any word on replacement PCBs?
zzjayfree was looking into it apparently but haven't heard anything for nearly 2 months now:
We understand that there are a couple of issues with the PCB and the is nothing close to ideal at all. We have found a much better source as PCB solutions of future GB on geekhack or rmm, if there's any.. With the new born coming in Aug, I'll be pretty busy. We'll see.
Again, sorry about the imperfection. I've found a US proxy, and you can send the faulty parts to the proxy and then they will be forwarded to EVE in China. Same thing when the parts come back. I'll send each buyer with issue(s) once I'm done.
Thank you for your patience.
EVE has gotten involved in the thread directly which is somewhat reassuring but the latest is still very vague:
Quote from: EVE
PCB has contacted the manufacturer to re customize
There has been talk of a few options for an aftermarket PCB but one of those group buys has closed already and I'm not aware of any others in progress yet. So for now we're still stuck on the dark side of the Moon.
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 06 August 2018, 10:10:29
Quote from: EVEPCB has contacted the manufacturer to re customize
There has been talk of a few options for an aftermarket PCB but one of those group buys has closed already and I'm not aware of any others in progress yet. So for now we're still stuck on the dark side of the Moon.
Don't really want to hijack but since my project has been mentioned in the thread before, this exists and will go for sale in 2-ish weeks: http://shop.hineybush.com/product/h87a
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 06 August 2018, 15:45:09
Quote from: EVEPCB has contacted the manufacturer to re customize
There has been talk of a few options for an aftermarket PCB but one of those group buys has closed already and I'm not aware of any others in progress yet. So for now we're still stuck on the dark side of the Moon.
Don't really want to hijack but since my project has been mentioned in the thread before, this exists and will go for sale in 2-ish weeks: http://shop.hineybush.com/product/h87a
I will probably hope on even though I have a working PCB purely for the QMK. Since there are quite a few of us who need a PCB, will there be an option of no usb port soldered?
Cheers
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 07 August 2018, 08:18:45
Since there are quite a few of us who need a PCB, will there be an option of no usb port soldered?
Explicitly mentioned under Specs:
Quote
Pins to solder a daughter board on (Moon TKL, for example)
and
Quote
Breakaway USB port for cases that use USB daughterboards
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 07 August 2018, 09:22:39
Since there are quite a few of us who need a PCB, will there be an option of no usb port soldered?
Explicitly mentioned under Specs:QuotePins to solder a daughter board on (Moon TKL, for example)
andQuoteBreakaway USB port for cases that use USB daughterboards
This guy reads the product description
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 14 August 2018, 02:47:35
PCB has contacted the manufacturer to re customize, the process needs a point time
Is there even a vague idea when this is going to progress? Is there anything actually happening or is it more "we sent them an email" and could still be talking many months? This group buy was supposed to be finished production nearly a year ago now :/
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 22 August 2018, 16:17:28
- Dimensions of screws that connect the switch plate to the top part of the case
- Dimensions of screws that connect the bottom weight insert into the bottom
- Dimensions for the bolts that connect the top and bottom halves of the case (not sure if front ones are longer than rear)
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 30 August 2018, 06:07:47
Post by: Dystopia on Wed, 05 September 2018, 07:29:25
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Wed, 05 September 2018, 09:59:50
[1] Per Eve's response, he is currently CNC'ing the replacement stripes.
[2] As for the PCB, he is also waiting to buy JJ's replacement PCB.
I am not sure on the timeline, but I will be glad to give any updates if there is any. (I am not the GB runner).
Edit: Eve's is a not a native English speaker, I am writing this update on his behalf.
Updates on the pcb timeline: At least 3 weeks more to go for the PCB manufacturer to deliver. Since the replacement qty is small, smaller MOQs are shafted to the end of the production queue since July.
Eve has no intention to run away from this nor deny any responsibilities for moon GB. He sincerely apologizes for this mishap.
He has been busy with the recent GBs so far (I am pretty sure you guys can tell from the GBs) and has been trying to source for replacement PCBs.
He promises to conclude the buy properly and told you guys not to worry.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 10 September 2018, 10:44:35
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Mon, 10 September 2018, 23:26:40
Thank you for the update :D Patience is one thing, but patience is so much harder when left in the dark.
I could feel you. Thus I went to Eve directly to see what I can help.
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 12 September 2018, 00:40:58
Hello all, I spoke to Eve on behalf of the Moon GB.
[1] Per Eve's response, he is currently CNC'ing the replacement stripes.
[2] As for the PCB, he is also waiting to buy JJ's replacement PCB.
I am not sure on the timeline, but I will be glad to give any updates if there is any. (I am not the GB runner).
Edit: Eve's is a not a native English speaker, I am writing this update on his behalf.
Updates on the pcb timeline: At least 3 weeks more to go for the PCB manufacturer to deliver. Since the replacement qty is small, smaller MOQs are shafted to the end of the production queue since July.
Eve has no intention to run away from this nor deny any responsibilities for moon GB. He sincerely apologizes for this mishap.
He has been busy with the recent GBs so far (I am pretty sure you guys can tell from the GBs) and has been trying to source for replacement PCBs.
He promises to conclude the buy properly and told you guys not to worry.
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Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Wed, 12 September 2018, 05:50:54
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 12 September 2018, 05:58:55
Will help you ask, but i can't guarantee anything for you since I am not the runner.Thank you!!
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Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 13 September 2018, 08:30:26
https://shop.hineybush.com/product/h87a-gb
EVE still around? Would it be possible to just get a refund on the value of the PCB and we source an alternative ourselves such as the group buy listed above?
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Fri, 14 September 2018, 10:11:32
Another possibility: this PCB group buy just went live:
https://shop.hineybush.com/product/h87a-gb
EVE still around? Would it be possible to just get a refund on the value of the PCB and we source an alternative ourselves such as the group buy listed above?
This arrangement would be me overstepping as "someone concerned" over the gb runner. I can't make such decisions on their behalf. Best to rope in Jay to the picture.
I will try to ask for updates, or keep the group updated if there are any news.
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 19 September 2018, 07:51:05
Post by: rioc on Wed, 19 September 2018, 14:47:03
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Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 19 September 2018, 20:15:43
Sorry for not being clearer, the question was aimed at EVE, or failing that jay if he's still lurking around here :P
eason just had a kid and has been virtually impossible to reach for a few months because of it
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 19 September 2018, 20:16:10
Anyone here had the issue that the pcb just shows up as 2 hid devices after resetting it? How do I get it to show up as atmega again?
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check your daughterboard solder joints, might have a short
Post by: rioc on Thu, 20 September 2018, 04:34:57
nah, that was fine... turns out it started having problems with other drivers of custom boards, still not showing up in TKG though... ???Anyone here had the issue that the pcb just shows up as 2 hid devices after resetting it? How do I get it to show up as atmega again?
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check your daughterboard solder joints, might have a short
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sun, 23 September 2018, 07:52:58
(https://i.imgur.com/vUTpw4B.jpg)
Post by: nathanchere on Sun, 23 September 2018, 12:00:01
Thank you so much for keeping us in the loop
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 23 September 2018, 12:15:38
Post by: macclack on Sun, 23 September 2018, 19:14:08
Some new updates from Eve, the replacement PCB is ready and will be shipped out soon. Apologies for the long delay and thanks for your understanding on this.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vUTpw4B.jpg)
My PCB was DOA as well. How are people securing replacement PCBs?
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Mon, 24 September 2018, 02:12:15
Some new updates from Eve, the replacement PCB is ready and will be shipped out soon. Apologies for the long delay and thanks for your understanding on this.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vUTpw4B.jpg)
My PCB was DOA as well. How are people securing replacement PCBs?
The original rma listing was sent out from jay some time back. I'm not the runner or the machinist, I dont have the full details.
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 26 September 2018, 05:57:48
These kind of contacts were the sketchiest on the original board. Hopefully they're better this time around.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 11 October 2018, 07:55:55
Once I receive them, I will invoice shipping cost out before delivering them to you guys.
Cheers.
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 11 October 2018, 08:11:27
(Attachment Link)
These kind of contacts were the sketchiest on the original board. Hopefully they're better this time around.
Paper/rubber washers work well to isolate the stab screw from the switch pad.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 11 October 2018, 08:30:31
Looks the same but it's just red and it doesn't have the SMD stuff on it... anyway, updates are good
I will follow up with Eve on your top case.
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 11 October 2018, 21:21:51
Thanks!Looks the same but it's just red and it doesn't have the SMD stuff on it... anyway, updates are good
I will follow up with Eve on your top case.
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Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 25 October 2018, 06:18:17
I have spoken to Eve, and he will be sending me all Mira and Moon PCB replacements. I will try to get the list of names and address from those that requires replacement.
Once I receive them, I will invoice shipping cost out before delivering them to you guys.
Cheers.
Where (as in country) does that mean they're getting shipped to? I guess that means direct shipping from China is not an option.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 25 October 2018, 06:42:19
I have spoken to Eve, and he will be sending me all Mira and Moon PCB replacements. I will try to get the list of names and address from those that requires replacement.
Once I receive them, I will invoice shipping cost out before delivering them to you guys.
Cheers.
Where (as in country) does that mean they're getting shipped to? I guess that means direct shipping from China is not an option.
From Singapore.
Post by: PleaseBeMyFriend on Sat, 27 October 2018, 02:01:02
Attached is a quick guide on how to get a default tkl layout working on moon.
This is simply an instruction about what i did while following the guide, and i hope this will work for you as well.
If i can figure out how to remap keys, ill put that in a separate guide.
Trying to program my Moon, which is currently empty...and I can't get the tkg.io website to recognize my board. It comes up as ATm32U4DFU in Device Manager as well and I've tried hitting my reset button and refreshing the page as well. Any ideas?
EDIT: Seems to have worked it self out after uninstalling the drivers and just hitting the reset button over and over again
Post by: Badmotorfinger on Sat, 27 October 2018, 13:56:50
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Post by: SBN on Sat, 27 October 2018, 14:33:10
So I’ve been a little out of the loop but are there any viable replacement boards out there right now? I ordered 2 pcbs and one appears to have melted diodes and the other is completely missing the mini usb. I talked to miki and apparently there aren’t enough replacement pcbs from eve. So, is there anything out there that can turn my $600 paperweight into a functioning keyboard?
I hope the Hineybush h87a fits, if you use the daughterboard. But the GB ended, so you may have to hope for extras or /r/mm...
https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/hineybush-h87a-pcb_727/ (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/hineybush-h87a-pcb_727/)
Post by: Badmotorfinger on Sat, 27 October 2018, 14:39:26
So I’ve been a little out of the loop but are there any viable replacement boards out there right now? I ordered 2 pcbs and one appears to have melted diodes and the other is completely missing the mini usb. I talked to miki and apparently there aren’t enough replacement pcbs from eve. So, is there anything out there that can turn my $600 paperweight into a functioning keyboard?
I hope the Hineybush h87a fits, if you use the daughterboard. But the GB ended, so you may have to hope for extras or /r/mm...
https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/hineybush-h87a-pcb_727/ (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/hineybush-h87a-pcb_727/)
Cool thanks for the link. I will keep an eye out.
This is my first GB through geek hack..is it common for these GBs to end with non functioning boards or is this just particular to EVE or these GB runners? Are there any reputable custom board makers anyone recommends for future reference?
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Post by: DasGnome on Sat, 27 October 2018, 14:56:11
I'll be replacing my (working) Moon PCB because I prefer QMK.
I hope the Taichi TKL doesnt have these same problems with EVE...
Post by: macclack on Sat, 27 October 2018, 17:16:19
So I’ve been a little out of the loop but are there any viable replacement boards out there right now? I ordered 2 pcbs and one appears to have melted diodes and the other is completely missing the mini usb. I talked to miki and apparently there aren’t enough replacement pcbs from eve. So, is there anything out there that can turn my $600 paperweight into a functioning keyboard?
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This one works:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95713.0;topicseen
I'm currently using it in my Moon since the PCB that originally shipped to me from Eve never worked. They can also make replacement plates for the Moon. I ordered a plastic one that matches the original Moon plate perfectly, except for no logo.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 27 October 2018, 17:25:13
So I’ve been a little out of the loop but are there any viable replacement boards out there right now? I ordered 2 pcbs and one appears to have melted diodes and the other is completely missing the mini usb. I talked to miki and apparently there aren’t enough replacement pcbs from eve. So, is there anything out there that can turn my $600 paperweight into a functioning keyboard?
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This one works:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95713.0;topicseen
I'm currently using it in my Moon since the PCB that originally shipped to me from Eve never worked. They can also make replacement plates for the Moon. I ordered a plastic one that matches the original Moon plate perfectly, except for no logo.
moon uses a jane plate, so it's just standard
the files are floating around somewhere if you want a wacky material or something
Post by: macclack on Sat, 27 October 2018, 20:47:13
moon uses a jane plate, so it's just standard
the files are floating around somewhere if you want a wacky material or something
Good to know!
Post by: Eggplant on Sun, 28 October 2018, 20:51:41
I have spoken to Eve, and he will be sending me all Mira and Moon PCB replacements. I will try to get the list of names and address from those that requires replacement.
Once I receive them, I will invoice shipping cost out before delivering them to you guys.
Cheers.
Hey Mikiberry,
Did zzjayfree send over his list, or will we have to recontact you if we had an issue that was submitted through him?
Thanks for handling this btw!
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sun, 28 October 2018, 21:20:30
I have spoken to Eve, and he will be sending me all Mira and Moon PCB replacements. I will try to get the list of names and address from those that requires replacement.
Once I receive them, I will invoice shipping cost out before delivering them to you guys.
Cheers.
Hey Mikiberry,
Did zzjayfree send over his list, or will we have to recontact you if we had an issue that was submitted through him?
Thanks for handling this btw!
I dont have a list but a screenshot. I need to find eason on qq to get it. But my understanding is your issue is just screws right?
Post by: Eggplant on Sun, 28 October 2018, 21:22:47
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 28 October 2018, 22:01:53
I have bad threads or not long enough screws on one and a bad pcb on the other, I pm'd over the full details to zzjayfree, but never heard back, but I assumed it was because he was dealing with so many other issues.
He had a kid a few months back and has been largely MIA here since
Post by: Eggplant on Sun, 28 October 2018, 22:16:06
I have bad threads or not long enough screws on one and a bad pcb on the other, I pm'd over the full details to zzjayfree, but never heard back, but I assumed it was because he was dealing with so many other issues.
He had a kid a few months back and has been largely MIA here since
That's understandable, I just want to check in to make sure I was accounted for; I had originally pm'd him back in April and hadn't heard back, and now that a mikiberry is handling replacements, I just wanted to check in.
I've already sent over the details to mikiberry, via discord.
Post by: Dystopia on Sun, 28 October 2018, 23:44:25
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Mon, 29 October 2018, 00:57:57
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Mon, 29 October 2018, 00:58:55
Should I send my problems over to Miki too since he's handling the replacements?
Let me know in details what went wrong, i saw ur name on the list pertaining to logo.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 29 October 2018, 01:34:04
Hello, i keep getting additional rma requests on top of the existing screenshotted list for replacement. I need a cut off for issues reported because there would no end for me. You report issues to me, but i cannot guarantee you anything. I will forward your responses to eve. Also i will be charging shipping for replacement parts, as i do not wish to incur any cost at my end.I don't know how you got roped into being the proxy for everything. I really do appreciate stepping up and helping fix everything but it seems pretty unfair to be dropped into your lap. Either EVE should be available to handle this, or zzjayfree since they were organising the buy from the start. I can sympathise that he had a child on the way and there are bigger priorities in life than keyboards, but just dropping everything cold and going MIA once the products finally started landing and showed consistent deal-breaking issues is not exactly great form. It shouldn't be a lucky dip or lottery to determine if you get a working PCB or a paperweight.
I more and more think the decent thing for EVE to do would be offer refunds to the value of a replacement PCB. https://shop.hineybush.com/product/h87a-gb is taking pre-orders now even though the original group buy closed and it's a very reasonably priced PCB. At least then this saga could be resolved once and for all.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Mon, 29 October 2018, 03:27:26
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 29 October 2018, 08:17:03
Eve is ready to handle, just can't speak English lol.:)) fair point
Post by: jaymaikan on Mon, 29 October 2018, 18:47:11
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 30 October 2018, 20:27:59
Or any other resistor sku I can use instead. Thanks!
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Mon, 12 November 2018, 22:05:08
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 12 November 2018, 22:10:50
Forgive me if this has been covered, this thread is huge. But does anyone know where I could purchase the daughterboards for the Moon? Or, compatible products you guys may have tried that works? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
tl;dr you can't, wait for EVE
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Mon, 12 November 2018, 22:12:47
Forgive me if this has been covered, this thread is huge. But does anyone know where I could purchase the daughterboards for the Moon? Or, compatible products you guys may have tried that works? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
tl;dr you can't, wait for EVE
Drats thats what I thought.
EVE....hook us up.... (waits for a response).
Post by: Eric404atx on Wed, 14 November 2018, 17:48:39
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Wed, 14 November 2018, 18:53:01
Edit: I still don't have the previous list on the rma. Gonna see what i can do when im back.
Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 01 December 2018, 10:27:43
Anyone know what resistors the OG board uses/ I found one of my pcb to be missing a single resistor on a key.
Or any other resistor sku I can use instead. Thanks!
bump
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 01 December 2018, 10:30:34
Anyone know what resistors the OG board uses/ I found one of my pcb to be missing a single resistor on a key.
Or any other resistor sku I can use instead. Thanks!
bump
any smd resistor will do, stock ohmage is probably in the 400-600 range
diodes are 1n4148
Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 01 December 2018, 18:06:54
Post by: hineybush on Sat, 01 December 2018, 19:50:21
Anyone know what resistors the OG board uses/ I found one of my pcb to be missing a single resistor on a key.
Or any other resistor sku I can use instead. Thanks!
bump
any smd resistor will do, stock ohmage is probably in the 400-600 range
diodes are 1n4148
measure/check the package size as well
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 01 December 2018, 20:28:57
Anyone know what resistors the OG board uses/ I found one of my pcb to be missing a single resistor on a key.
Or any other resistor sku I can use instead. Thanks!
bump
any smd resistor will do, stock ohmage is probably in the 400-600 range
diodes are 1n4148
measure/check the package size as well
Oh tru very important
Post by: thekingofmean on Tue, 04 December 2018, 01:44:00
Any thoughts?
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 04 December 2018, 01:51:37
I finally got around to putting this thing together. One PCB seems to work, no flashing required. The second one shows up in tkg.io and I followed FactoryDefaults guide and everything seems to flash but none of the keys register. It doesn't look like there are any missing components.
Any thoughts?
reflow controller
do it in an oven, don't put an iron near it
although that might be rather extreme
is the daughterboard soldered on properly? check for cold joints there first before putting it into an oven
Post by: thekingofmean on Tue, 04 December 2018, 11:42:35
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sat, 08 December 2018, 11:38:13
Will invoice shipping cost before shipment. It is late now, I will email those in my listing for address.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/505184581738037261/520844751646490624/20181208_141047.jpg?width=1730&height=1298)
Edit: I have yet to receive other replacement parts besides PCB. I am still chasing for it. Please bear with me awhile to sort it out.
Post by: Eric404atx on Sat, 08 December 2018, 20:24:37
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 10 December 2018, 06:40:29
I have received 13 replacement pcbs and daughterboards. For those with only PCB problems give me until next week to find a cheap and reliable shipping method to get these to you.
Will invoice shipping cost before shipment. It is late now, I will email those in my listing for address.Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/505184581738037261/520844751646490624/20181208_141047.jpg?width=1730&height=1298)
Edit: I have yet to receive other replacement parts besides PCB. I am still chasing for it. Please bear with me awhile to sort it out.
Legend! At well over a year past original expected delivery date, still a lot of bricks around and no sign from zzjayfree for months now, it was more often than not feeling like a lost cause.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Mon, 10 December 2018, 06:50:23
I have received 13 replacement pcbs and daughterboards. For those with only PCB problems give me until next week to find a cheap and reliable shipping method to get these to you.
Will invoice shipping cost before shipment. It is late now, I will email those in my listing for address.Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/505184581738037261/520844751646490624/20181208_141047.jpg?width=1730&height=1298)
Edit: I have yet to receive other replacement parts besides PCB. I am still chasing for it. Please bear with me awhile to sort it out.
Legend! At well over a year past original expected delivery date, still a lot of bricks around and no sign from zzjayfree for months now, it was more often than not feeling like a lost cause.
Give me some time to source for a cheap shipping method. Singapore is not exactly a place with low cost of living.
Will try to ship out the rest of the stuff asap once I have invoice all for shipping. At least we can conclude this episode.
I am also thinking of looking around my hardware store for JST connectors to link to the daughterboard this weekend. If, a big IF, there is a good cheap way (i.e. less than 2 bucks) to properly connect the pcb to the daughter board via JST connectors I can help to include them at cost, tested at my end to make sure it is good before sending anymore duds to the people.
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 10 December 2018, 07:03:44
Legend! At well over a year past original expected delivery date, still a lot of bricks around and no sign from zzjayfree for months now, it was more often than not feeling like a lost cause.
Who is zzyjayfree?
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/417114356942241793.png?v=1)
Post by: trikoi00 on Mon, 10 December 2018, 19:51:54
Post by: DasGnome on Wed, 12 December 2018, 09:26:40
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 12 December 2018, 09:31:51
Does anyone know what the thickness of the plate is? 1.5mm like usual?
Yes, it should be.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Fri, 14 December 2018, 11:57:32
In the next week or 2, the additional moon parts like replacement strips and chipped top parts will be coming.
I have tested one of the pcb to make sure it is good and it works pretty well. Still waiting for 3 more pcb as well to get bulk quotation for shipping.
Post by: Badmotorfinger on Tue, 18 December 2018, 19:02:10
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Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 20 December 2018, 03:31:31
Meanwhile would appreciate the people whom received my pm to provide me with shipping address and paypal address. After 7 days of incommunicado, i will shift down the list to other people that needs the pcb.
It has been a long and arduous ride for some, so please bear with me a little while more while i get things sorted out for a gb not mine.
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 27 December 2018, 03:35:50
I am missing like 2 to 3 pcbs for everyone, as well as some wrong parts. I have sent out a pm to those with issues i can resolve. If you are not contacted, please be patient.
Meanwhile would appreciate the people whom received my pm to provide me with shipping address and paypal address. After 7 days of incommunicado, i will shift down the list to other people that needs the pcb.
It has been a long and arduous ride for some, so please bear with me a little while more while i get things sorted out for a gb not mine.
Sounds like yet more problems coming from EVE's end? :(
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 27 December 2018, 06:16:56
I am missing like 2 to 3 pcbs for everyone, as well as some wrong parts. I have sent out a pm to those with issues i can resolve. If you are not contacted, please be patient.
Meanwhile would appreciate the people whom received my pm to provide me with shipping address and paypal address. After 7 days of incommunicado, i will shift down the list to other people that needs the pcb.
It has been a long and arduous ride for some, so please bear with me a little while more while i get things sorted out for a gb not mine.
Sounds like yet more problems coming from EVE's end? :(
Some people have given up their pcbs. I might have enough. Still pending for your address and paypal email too.
Post by: Tekniqs on Wed, 09 January 2019, 01:19:45
Post by: pandemic123 on Mon, 21 January 2019, 14:51:58
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 22 January 2019, 02:03:11
anyone got an extra plate?Any Mira, Orion, Jane (pre v2) or mech27 plate should fit also. Widen your search
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 22 January 2019, 16:19:49
hey guys. I recently bought a moon tkl from another member somewhere and was wondering if there's a way to flash(?) a media layer on the keys/pcb. has anyone done this with their kb?
it should be possible with the software, yes
most firmwares support it
just add it to the fn layer
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 30 January 2019, 17:24:49
Edit: figured it out--it's because of SIP sockets at the bottom. Using a skinny screwdriver to manually push the plastic notch at the bottom through the plate. First time I've had to do this with any plate, so didn't expect it.
Post by: Tekniqs on Thu, 31 January 2019, 01:48:46
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 31 January 2019, 07:29:56
are there any spare pcbs available? or perhaps other pcbs that will fit?
Novelkeys is selling the Hineybush's PCB which fits.
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 31 January 2019, 17:06:29
https://1drv.ms/f/s!Aoa9lIIu91gq007qvU7iwYhA23F_
One is as saved .eep file containing the whole keymap. One is a text file containing both layers you can copy-paste into the tkg.io editor, and the third file is a screenshot of tkg.io interface to show the LED settings. The LED settings are not happenstance, and I've had to try a lot of iterations to get things to work, as the default configuration was wrong. The last LED4 bit does nothing.
(https://i.imgur.com/xXy3OEf.png)
The layout in those files gives a standard US ANSI keymap with Function 0 being the right Winkey. Holding Fn0 activates Layer 1. I've mapped the arrow cluster to LED modes in Layer 1: up/down/left are the same--cycling through LED modes. right arrow toggles LEDs on/off. You can add Function 3 to try "Backlight Action : Decrease Level", but I didn't play with that enough. I know that "Decrease Level" does not refer to decreasing brightness. But it might refer to decreasing the speed of various modes, such as breathing, which was probably the case, but I didn't spend enough time trying it out. One of the modes is a reactive light mode.
Post by: Tekniqs on Thu, 31 January 2019, 18:41:27
are there any spare pcbs available? or perhaps other pcbs that will fit?
Novelkeys is selling the Hineybush's PCB which fits.
thank you very much
Post by: jlboi69 on Thu, 31 January 2019, 21:36:05
Post by: Tekniqs on Fri, 01 February 2019, 01:30:03
The H87a is the single best thing you can add for this board, tbh.
how so? i'm genuinely curious. is the 'stock' pcb not up to par?
edit: I took a look at the compatibility list and it says 'break out mod'. What does this mean? i'm assuming it means it will still need the daughter board (mini usb) that sticks in the slot of the bottom case right? (sorry i'm really new to custom boards)
edit 2: went reading a bit haha. So it is the daughter board. Are those readily replaceable/available as well? or is it 'shape specific' to the case?
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 01 February 2019, 09:24:56
Anyway, before building, just do the testing with attaching the daughterboard and connecting to your computer. It might well be that new keymap and firmware needs to be uploaded to the controller first, and there's a great English-translated guide earlier in this thread on how to do it and flash the default layout. Then you can short the switch pins with tweezers and use something like AquaKey to test that all the keys work. If something is off with a few switch locations, can use a multimeter to test diodes. For completeness, you can test all diodes and resistors for consistency.
I wouldn't write off the stock PCB right away.
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 01 February 2019, 18:08:35
I just received a Chinese Moon I bought off of someone in the community but I'm having a hard time figuring out what the code is for the key next to the left ISO/short shift. IIRC it's "KC_NUBS" in QMK, but that doesn't work in tkg.io; I tried \\, iso |, and many others, I just can't seem to find the correct code for that particular key. Could anybody please end my suffering and tell me what it is? As of right now it outputs the same key as the one on the left of the ISO Enter key.
thanks a lot for your help guys!
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 01 February 2019, 21:36:50
https://tkg.io/#help
There are the available designations in the
Code: [Select]
Non-US \ and | section. Looks like it's "|", "\", and "iso |" for those.
Also the English guide posted in this thread lists ISO default layout you can copy-paste. Attached to this post: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2577205#msg2577205
Post by: JSaintS on Sat, 02 February 2019, 03:27:26
You've probably done this, but just in case, have you seen this?
https://tkg.io/#help
There are the available designations in theCode: [Select]Non-US \ and |section.
Looks like it's "|", "\", and "iso |" for those.
Also the English guide posted in this thread lists ISO default layout you can copy-paste. Attached to this post: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90379.msg2577205#msg2577205
Thanks a lot for this, but I tried that already; weirdly enough, when I try either of those options, I get an "unkown label" error which prevents me from flashing.
And yup, that's the guide I use.
I'm basically flashing the basic layout except I have CTRL - WIN - WIN on the right bottom row to make the left alt a win key; but that works just fine.
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 02 February 2019, 13:53:23
Post by: nathanchere on Fri, 01 March 2019, 06:14:13
Post by: macclack on Fri, 01 March 2019, 11:39:48
Curious, has anyone gotten their replacement PCBs yet?Yep got mine several weeks ago
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sat, 02 March 2019, 01:52:12
Curious, has anyone gotten their replacement PCBs yet?
I just sent an email to the courier support. CC'd you in.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 04 March 2019, 02:35:20
Curious, has anyone gotten their replacement PCBs yet?
I just sent an email to the courier support. CC'd you in.
Got it, thanks. Sounds like a comedy of errors from the 'support' exchange... once again, really appreciate all you've done to help with this.