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Title: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Over
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 30 September 2018, 15:27:54
https://donutcables.com/product/gmk-coniferous-round-2/

Fall approaches and trees begin to drop their leaves, but the mighty conifers will defiantly display their foliage against the change of the seasons, a fitting time for the return of GMK Coniferous! My first keyset design is back after amazing first round performance and near-constant inquiries as to a second round. Bold green on classic beige and black backdrop and crafted by GMK in Cherry profile with their renowned double-shot injection molding process, this keyset lets you display your keyboard's "foliage" all year round for years to come.

(https://i.imgur.com/gngqvPa.png) (https://i.imgur.com/gngqvPa.png)
Base Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/wd2CxID.png) (https://i.imgur.com/wd2CxID.png)
Spacebars Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/3iQ4J68.png) (https://i.imgur.com/3iQ4J68.png)
Novelties Kit - Designs brought to you by Keebmeupscotty

(https://i.imgur.com/A1y4l5B.png) (https://i.imgur.com/A1y4l5B.png)
Bonsair Kit

The prices for *my* site are as follows:
 
Base - 5/150
- 150 - $150
- 250 - $135

Spacebar - 5/100
- 100 - $31
- 150 - $28

Novelties - 5/100
- 100 - $42
- 150 - $35

Bonsai - 3/100
- 100 - $70
- 150 - $65

(https://i.imgur.com/iFPTA3R.png) (https://i.imgur.com/iFPTA3R.png)
Table of all regional prices

Proxies for this set are:
EU - http://groupbuys.mechboards.co.uk/shop/gmk-coniferous-r2/
China - https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4832
Asia/Oceania - https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-coniferous-r2

Estimated timeline:

Oct 1st-31st - GB period is open
Nov 1st-7th - Order numbers submitted to GMK, possible kit adjustments, payment submitted
Nov 8th - Feb 14th - Current estimated GMK production time, may be shorted depending on order quantities and other factors
Feb 14th-28th - Current estimated time for sets to ship from GMK to me and for sorting
Late Feb - early March - Shipping fulfillment from me to customers

I've changed things up a little bit this time and instead of doing pre-order like the last two buys this is pay when you order. This is to help prevent the delays that the last two buys went through/are going through due to people just refusing to pay invoices they committed to when they submitted the orders. Leave it to some people to ruin something that makes it easier for other people to participate in GBs. Dealing with price drops and other things is going to be a pain, but hey that's what it is.

Let me know if I missed anything important. How many GBs have I posted here and I'm still not sure if I've got everything right the first time.

For your viewing pleasure, an album of R1 sets on various boards in various settings
https://imgur.com/a/D8MJ7
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: Signature on Sun, 30 September 2018, 16:35:34
Approved
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: mgsickler on Sun, 30 September 2018, 16:44:18
Joined. Glad this got a second round.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: vonswoopington on Sun, 30 September 2018, 17:29:03
Good to see this back!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: rmendis on Sun, 30 September 2018, 19:15:09
Traded my earlier one. Joined!

Will you issue cc refunds if discount MOQs are hit?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 30 September 2018, 20:59:31
Traded my earlier one. Joined!

Will you issue cc refunds if discount MOQs are hit?

Yes, since payment is collected when you order I'll have to manage price drop points through partial refunds.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: okidna on Sun, 30 September 2018, 21:23:45
YES! Been waiting for this set. Will order from ZF when the link is up. Thanks donutcat!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 01 October 2018, 13:06:24
Couple updates:

ZFrontier links are up and should be working:

https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4832
https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-coniferous-r2

and I've included a table in the op and here with their pricing for easy viewing
(https://i.imgur.com/0Z5gsq8.png) (https://i.imgur.com/0Z5gsq8.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 02 October 2018, 20:48:49
Another bump, David got his page up at http://groupbuys.mechboards.co.uk/shop/gmk-coniferous-r2/ which is now linked in both the op and on my store page.

(https://i.imgur.com/iFPTA3R.png) (https://i.imgur.com/iFPTA3R.png)
Table updated with pricing.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: s3vv4 on Thu, 04 October 2018, 12:15:31
Another bump, David got his page up at http://groupbuys.mechboards.co.uk/shop/gmk-coniferous-r2/ which is now linked in both the op and on my store page.

(https://i.imgur.com/iFPTA3R.png) (https://i.imgur.com/iFPTA3R.png)
Table updated with pricing.

Why does it cost more to buy from UK, shouldn't shipping be lower from Germany..?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 04 October 2018, 12:21:15
Within EU you guys end up paying VAT while there's essentially no import fees at all from Germany to the US. The USD is also doing relatively well against both EUR and GBP compared to a few months ago, meaning the USD conversion is even lower.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 05 October 2018, 23:49:20
Small bump, I've added to the OP an album of R1 sets for those unfamiliar to get a better idea of how the set looks in real life.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: dantambok on Sat, 06 October 2018, 00:44:51
Ordered a set from zf!  :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 09 October 2018, 13:13:44
Small update bump, got the following numbers so far:

Base - 22
Spacebars - 17
Novelty - 13
Bonsai - 9

Numbers are a little low, but honestly kinda what I expected since the change in payment method does mean people might have to wait until later on in the buy period to order.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 17 October 2018, 07:30:23
Numbers update:

Base - 26
Spacebars - 21
Novelty - 15
Bonsai - 11
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 17 October 2018, 22:28:32
It's sad to see these numbers. I'm really rooting for this kit! Quick question for you, donut: is there are particular number for base kits to reach where you'd consider buying out the rest so MOQ is reached? I only ask because there's numerous kits out and on the horizon that I have my eye including this one, and because you're no longer waiting until the buy period is over to collect payment, I have to be pragmatic about how I spend the very little free cash I have. I hope you understand :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: donutcat on Sat, 20 October 2018, 13:30:16
It's sad to see these numbers. I'm really rooting for this kit! Quick question for you, donut: is there are particular number for base kits to reach where you'd consider buying out the rest so MOQ is reached? I only ask because there's numerous kits out and on the horizon that I have my eye including this one, and because you're no longer waiting until the buy period is over to collect payment, I have to be pragmatic about how I spend the very little free cash I have. I hope you understand :)

I'm not completely sure since right now my finances aren't in a good spot for being able to foot a bunch of sets, but I'd say if the base got over 100-110 then between me and the proxies we'd be able to make it happen, though that doesn't give any provisions for the other kits. As it is, I'm currently disappointed in the current turnout on the set considering the interest that there was while it was in IC that seems to have mostly vanished. Based on the feedback I was really expecting more by this point in the GB period, but I'll be letting it run its course to see what happens once we're closer to the end.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - Going live when this is approved
Post by: s3vv4 on Sun, 21 October 2018, 09:07:26
Within EU you guys end up paying VAT while there's essentially no import fees at all from Germany to the US. The USD is also doing relatively well against both EUR and GBP compared to a few months ago, meaning the USD conversion is even lower.

As UK is still part of EU there are no import fees.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: rmacdowe on Sun, 21 October 2018, 14:30:07
Maybe do reddit etc posts? I know this has been pushed back a few times since like June. Some people might not know that its actually gone live.

 I know its not looking great, but crossing my fingers on this one.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: Hokabuki on Sun, 21 October 2018, 16:06:34
Maybe do reddit etc posts? I know this has been pushed back a few times since like June. Some people might not know that its actually gone live.

 I know its not looking great, but crossing my fingers on this one.
Good suggestion but there have been multiple reddit posts for the GB. The hype seemed high for this set so it seems odd that it’s struggling.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 23 October 2018, 14:42:04
Numbers update bump:

Numbers update:

Base - 31
Spacebars - 26
Novelty - 20
Bonsai - 16

We're at the 1/5 point for base currently, really hoping for that "end of GB period" rush to start up soon.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: nu_types on Wed, 24 October 2018, 13:33:51
Maybe do reddit etc posts? I know this has been pushed back a few times since like June. Some people might not know that its actually gone live.

 I know its not looking great, but crossing my fingers on this one.
Good suggestion but there have been multiple reddit posts for the GB. The hype seemed high for this set so it seems odd that it’s struggling.

Honestly, I think it's just the time of year. There are a good number of sets running simultaneously, and people are likely saving their spending money for the Holidays.

I myself had to make the hard decision not to jump in this time, even though I've been waiting eagerly for it since the IC was initially posted. I was ready for it in June / July personally, but by the time this GB launched I had already joined other GBs, and started to cut back on my spending for the holidays. Hopefully, if this set doesn't make it we'll see it again eventually, but I think this time of year is just rough for any GB.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 25 October 2018, 19:32:52
I am interested in Bonsai kit, is this drop getting canceled? Any chance the drop will go ahead even with low participation?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 25 October 2018, 21:23:40
I am interested in Bonsai kit, is this drop getting canceled? Any chance the drop will go ahead even with low participation?

Not cancelled yet, going to try keeping it alive as long as I can. As it stands, I would not be able to push the set forward without significantly more participation or someone willing to fund the set since I just can't afford to.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: jihadu on Fri, 26 October 2018, 05:23:38
What's are mechmarket's rules regarding post updates? I have a feeling there's plenty of people that dont know the set is running right now.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: oumakavoula on Fri, 26 October 2018, 06:30:37
had no idea this set was running and i go to geekhack quite frequently
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: dantambok on Fri, 26 October 2018, 06:35:26
I agree, maybe this set needs more exposure. Post on mechmarket with photos of r1  :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 26 October 2018, 06:57:49
What's are mechmarket's rules regarding post updates? I have a feeling there's plenty of people that dont know the set is running right now.

48hrs minimum between posts, which I've been sticking close to. R/mk doesn't have an official rule about it, but I stick with the same 48hrs as mechmarket since I've run into complaints of "spamming" in the past.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 26 October 2018, 14:04:01
Today's number updates:

 - Base - 36/150

 - Spacebar - 29/100

 - Novelties - 22/100

 - Bonsai - 19/100

Also, I've received word from GMK that their production timeline could be much shorter than I've predicted here with an estimated only 7-9 weeks total production time after payment submission to them, meaning that if everything goes well and sticks to the timeline, we could see sets before the new year!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 27 October 2018, 16:34:50
So are we going to make it or extension. I really want the bonsai, space, and novelties to make it
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: OmegaZero55 on Sat, 27 October 2018, 20:05:24
I just put in my order. Here's hoping it makes it, but the current numbers have me worried.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 28 October 2018, 17:09:38
Alright, this is our current numbers:

 - Base - 40/150

 - Spacebar - 31/100

 - Novelties - 23/100

 - Bonsai - 21/100

And we're riding up on the *planned* end day this week. Obviously there's interest in the set being made, but we just need more participation to get it there since the base is right now only about 1/3 of the way. I can extend it a little bit, but I'd really prefer to not drag it on too much at the expense of those already joined.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 29 October 2018, 14:06:30
What will be the bare minimum actual # ordered for each set so that it will get made? I doubt moq will hit for any at this rate.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Mon, 29 October 2018, 16:54:05
What will be the bare minimum actual # ordered for each set so that it will get made? I doubt moq will hit for any at this rate.
Base set above 110. Not sure about other kits
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: OmegaZero55 on Mon, 29 October 2018, 18:16:56
I can extend it a little bit, but I'd really prefer to not drag it on too much at the expense of those already joined.
I don't know about anyone else, but I personally don't mind waiting if that's what we need to get it made. That's better than getting nothing at all to me.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 29 October 2018, 18:34:40
Bonsai kit and the novelties are the real winners of this R2. Such a shame if they don't make it.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: mimalik on Tue, 30 October 2018, 13:03:21
Bonsai kit and the novelties are the real winners of this R2. Such a shame if they don't make it.

Yes, I wanted to join this drop for Bonsai kit only but it appears that it will not happen, so sad.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: tikkaman on Wed, 31 October 2018, 20:02:19
Any update on the GB numbers? I joined for a base kit but it's looking like this might not hit moq  :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 31 October 2018, 22:11:02
Any update on the GB numbers? I joined for a base kit but it's looking like this might not hit moq  :(

He posted another update on Reddit.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 31 October 2018, 22:36:49
Current numbers:

 - Base - 48
 - Spacebars - 39
 - Novelty - 24
 - Bonsai - 23

The current plan is an extension until next Wednesday and then see what we're dealing with then. Given the current numbers it'd still take a miracle to get us even close to MOQ, but I'm willing to wait a bit longer to see if anything happens.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: sagadoi on Tue, 06 November 2018, 19:35:27
Current numbers:

 - Base - 48
 - Spacebars - 39
 - Novelty - 24
 - Bonsai - 23

The current plan is an extension until next Wednesday and then see what we're dealing with then. Given the current numbers it'd still take a miracle to get us even close to MOQ, but I'm willing to wait a bit longer to see if anything happens.
Hi,what is current number?
Hope to get this. ;D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Period Halfway Through
Post by: young_won on Wed, 07 November 2018, 01:11:28
any update?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Over
Post by: donutcat on Wed, 07 November 2018, 20:05:31
The following numbers are what we ended up with after the extension

Base - 54
Spacebars - 44
Novelty - 27
Bonsai - 28

Right now I just don't see a benefit to dragging this on with the pace that we've gained orders. I'll start refunds later this week and unlock the IC thread to go back to gathering interest while waiting for a better time to run this.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Over
Post by: heliar_mk on Wed, 07 November 2018, 20:10:12
The following numbers are what we ended up with after the extension

Base - 54
Spacebars - 44
Novelty - 27
Bonsai - 28

Right now I just don't see a benefit to dragging this on with the pace that we've gained orders. I'll start refunds later this week and unlock the IC thread to go back to gathering interest while waiting for a better time to run this.
Hope next GB the base kit would include the green spaces.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Over
Post by: Mag_Flux on Wed, 07 November 2018, 20:15:44
The following numbers are what we ended up with after the extension

Base - 54
Spacebars - 44
Novelty - 27
Bonsai - 28

Right now I just don't see a benefit to dragging this on with the pace that we've gained orders. I'll start refunds later this week and unlock the IC thread to go back to gathering interest while waiting for a better time to run this.

Damn, based on the numbers I had a feeling this was going to happen but man I've been waiting to grab this set since I missed the first round.  :( Whelp, count me in the next time this runs.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Over
Post by: Aox on Wed, 07 November 2018, 21:07:48
Well ****.

I'm definitely good for another bonsai and novelties purchase next try.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Over
Post by: tikkaman on Wed, 07 November 2018, 21:43:48
That's a real bummer. I'm definitely in for the next run though!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Over
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 08 November 2018, 10:59:13
omegalul
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Coniferous Round 2 - GB Over
Post by: donutcat on Thu, 08 November 2018, 13:21:13
omegalul

Go be a ****ty memer somewhere else pls/thx.