[IC] GMK HASRO/SAV Add-on kit - Vendors Announced

[Mikhail]

Jeez, one more time: Especially early OG dyesubs on HASRO have totally different colors! Alphas not "cherry beige", it's milky-white, dark-white. It's would be better if you made GMK set with custom colors, or just call this set HAV.

[arr1]

Really hyped about this set. Looks fire

[twitchytheinsideman]

Updates?

[Mikhail]

Some SAVs had additional 3 Ukrainian and 2 Belorussian caps.

[actress]

Jeez, one more time: Especially early OG dyesubs on HASRO have totally different colors! Alphas not "cherry beige", it's milky-white, dark-white. It's would be better if you made GMK set with custom colors, or just call this set HAV.

This is an add-on kit for existing GMK Beige sets with "cherry beige".

[twitchytheinsideman]

Updates?

Hope you are doing well, Peter 

[aicyborg]

I left this comment on the IC, just duplicating it here for visibility: Please do try to get a UK vendor.

If the usual UK vendor is not interested, Protozoa Studio has handled some niche GMK sets in the past for us and may be willing. Failing that and if no UK vendors at all are interested, please don't use MyKeyboard as the sole EU vendor – MK.eu is very much suboptimal within the UK, as they're not tax registered and impose a minimum spend of 200EUR in order to ship to us. That'd make this set basically unattainable for UK buyers... which would really blow given you have ISO-UK keys in base!

[VXQN]

I left this comment on the IC, just duplicating it here for visibility: Please do try to get a UK vendor...

QFT. Prototypist are also good.

[Peter6109]

No updates sadly as I have no EU or UK vendors. I've already reached out to most of them and they have declined.

[aicyborg]

No updates sadly as I have no EU or UK vendors. I've already reached out to most of them and they have declined.

ProtoTypist, Protozoa Studio, and Hand Engineering are all UK vendors who've ran GMK sets in the past. If all three have declined then that's a shame but I guess acceptable. Zfrontier does world-wide shipping as far as I know, so we have that option available to us. It really is a shame given that you have ISO-UK keys in base! Still, you tried.

[twitchytheinsideman]

Praying. 

[mr_foggy]

pls run this

kthx

[Puddsy]

im dumb and don't read my own notes ignore me

[NightFox99]

Finally, yes please

[twitchytheinsideman]

I am thinking. Maybe this might be better on CP.

As some comment mentioned OG being more white than L9.

Also GMK Red Alert looks good with red on CP. So I could imagine that it would look hot with this colorway too.

I also like my Yuru which has CP.

[Motan22]

Some SAVs had additional 3 Ukrainian and 2 Belorussian caps.

+1 for this. I would love to see Ukranian key support. It's a personal bias but would also give the set something that no one else is really offering.

[TjarleN]

Really hope this will happen in 2023, it is a classic and I am sure it will do great even knowing that some of the recent beige gb's struggled a bit.

I am thinking. Maybe this might be better on CP.

As some comment mentioned OG being more white than L9.

Please don't change this from L9 to anything else.

[NightFox99]

I have an impression that HASRO alphas are slightly brghter than L9. Imo it looks better. But I undersatnd it's a kit intended for beige sets...

[Seunghyun Lee]

i would take 2. keep praying

[TheGreenLion172]

Just to be clear, this set has pad printed subs right? (edit: I forgot that all subs are pad printed lol my bad)

[twitchytheinsideman]

(edit: I forgot that all subs are pad printed lol my bad)

Exactly, whenever there is 3 or more colors involved with GMK (and windowed keycaps), then UV-pad-printed legends are used since GMK only offers doubleshot. Unlike DMK and JTK who also offer tripleshot keycaps.

[twitchytheinsideman]

Updates?

Did you ask all EU vendors? MykeyboardEU, Candykeys, Oblotzky, Eloquentclicks and whatever smaller shops exist? (My guess is that Candykeys and Oblotzky wouldnt run this, Candykeys because they dont like beige and Oblotzky because he has way too much instock to "risk" another GB.)
And maybe ask if Keygem would be willing to run at a later time maybe?

Or ask vendors if they would run if you ran this set with mods?

I want this so much 

[actress]

better to run without eu vendor than not to run at all imo. best of luck!

[mr_foggy]

edit --unneeded negativity

[Peter6109]

Just to be clear, this set has pad printed subs right? (edit: I forgot that all subs are pad printed lol my bad)

Yes the sub legends would be pad printed. I own GMK Classic retro Cyrillic and used to own NOS SAV and can say the pad printed version looks stunning in person.



My board with GMK Classic Retro Cyrillic. Photo taken by Sub#0001 at a local meetup.


Potential update soon. 

[twitchytheinsideman]

Just to be clear, this set has pad printed subs right? (edit: I forgot that all subs are pad printed lol my bad)

Yes the sub legends would be pad printed. I own GMK Classic retro Cyrillic and used to own NOS SAV and can say the pad printed version looks stunning in person.

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My board with GMK Classic Retro Cyrillic. Photo taken by Sub#0001 at a local meetup.


Potential update soon.

stunning. i am crying seeing this pic.  :-[

omg if this update is something along these lines: "going to upgrade to full base kit". then please include xbox backspace, like in GMK Retro. And also please include icon legends with purse Caps Lock, like GMK 9009 R1.  :p

[Peter6109]

stunning. i am crying seeing this pic. 

omg if this update is something along these lines: "going to upgrade to full base kit". then please include xbox backspace, like in GMK Retro. And also please include icon legends with purse Caps Lock, like GMK 9009 R1. 

No intention to make this a full kit at this time.

[actress]

Just to be clear, this set has pad printed subs right? (edit: I forgot that all subs are pad printed lol my bad)

Yes the sub legends would be pad printed. I own GMK Classic retro Cyrillic and used to own NOS SAV and can say the pad printed version looks stunning in person.

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My board with GMK Classic Retro Cyrillic. Photo taken by Sub#0001 at a local meetup.


Potential update soon.

Such a beaut, thanks for sharing. This set was essentially what got me into the hobby, stoked for updates :)
Also nice to see that GMK pad print seems to hold on pretty nice over the years.

[Seunghyun Lee]

this kit would end my beige caps hope this kit goes gb! keep praying

[DeMechanica]

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes please

[NightFox99]

Please consider Oblotzky & Eloquentclicks first as EU vendors if you can. Candykeys at lesser extention and mostly Mykeyboard.eu suffer from multiple issues (delays, shipping and overall service problems) and thus better be avoided.

[DeMechanica]

Is it true that UK and EU buyers won’t buy into a set with only NA & SEA & Aussie vendors?

[mr_foggy]

Is it true that UK and EU buyers won’t buy into a set with only NA & SEA & Aussie vendors?

yes. shipping costs and VAT would literally double the price for us.

[VACasian]

Any update on this? Not sure what update is necessary other than confirming/deciding a GB period tbh

[tactilesbad]

Any update on this? Not sure what update is necessary other than confirming/deciding a GB period tbh

price negotiation between manu and vendors, picking more vendors, evaluating color samples, finalizing kitting, there's a bunch of things to do whether you realize it or not

[DeMechanica]

Is it true that UK and EU buyers won’t buy into a set with only NA & SEA & Aussie vendors?

yes. shipping costs and VAT would literally double the price for us.

If that’s around $70+ USD, my gosh, sorry to hear dude.
If you’re talking about shipping costs going from $10USD to shipping + tax going to $50USD total… like, I sympathise, but are we really that price sensitive in this crazy hobby? I personally have had to cop $50 shipping for Oblotzky extras for addon kits a few times… I’m all for doing our best to find a vendor, but not going ahead with a set (and not allowing it to exist) because of that is wild to me. It has gone back to being a smaller, less popular hobby & the convenience & fees is probably going to reflect that. We’re lucky that the hobby is where it is in terms of affordable boards & affordable alternatives.

[VACasian]

Any update on this? Not sure what update is necessary other than confirming/deciding a GB period tbh

price negotiation between manu and vendors, picking more vendors, evaluating color samples, finalizing kitting, there's a bunch of things to do whether you realize it or not

Oh? I wasn't aware that GMK L9/U9 had to be "evaluated", it must be a new combination of stock GMK colors no one's ran before. Not sure if you have read the thread but OP has announced vendors literally 1 year ago, and since kitting hasnt been updated for more than that, how is it not pertinent to ask for updates on what more we're waiting on? Oh, unless OP has been facilitating price negotiation between GMK and the already announced vendors for over a year now, which is your assumption.

[tactilesbad]

Any update on this? Not sure what update is necessary other than confirming/deciding a GB period tbh

price negotiation between manu and vendors, picking more vendors, evaluating color samples, finalizing kitting, there's a bunch of things to do whether you realize it or not

Oh? I wasn't aware that GMK L9/U9 had to be "evaluated", it must be a new combination of stock GMK colors no one's ran before. Not sure if you have read the thread but OP has announced vendors literally 1 year ago, and since kitting hasnt been updated for more than that, how is it not pertinent to ask for updates on what more we're waiting on? Oh, unless OP has been facilitating price negotiation between GMK and the already announced vendors for over a year now, which is your assumption.

no my assumption is just that you're making things too easy by expecting something that's not granted. maybe it's been put on hold? cancelled? postponed? no way to know except patiently waiting.

[mr_foggy]

but are we really that price sensitive in this crazy hobby?

the hobby being expensive means it's ok to spend big, not spend stupid.
if a board/keycap sets is actually worth a lot I'd gladly spend that much, but I'm not paying 50-100% more just because the runner/designer/maker/whatever can't be arsed to find a regional vendor. as you say the hobby is large enough, it ain't hard to find one. GMK is also located in the EU, no reason to fly the keycaps back and forth around the world.

[Seunghyun Lee]

i still love GMK but ppl think there's no merit to choose GMK as a manu...
for some reasons, i agree to some extent but i really want this gb goes well

[J0hnojoheneczko]

i still love GMK but ppl think there's no merit to choose GMK as a manu...
for some reasons, i agree to some extent but i really want this gb goes well

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=120388.msg3164073#msg3164073

[Peter6109]

Any update on this? Not sure what update is necessary other than confirming/deciding a GB period tbh

Sadly the update is I can't find vendors.

[Peter6109]

Mechs and Co was the main vendor and no longer exists. All the UK and EU vendors I've asked have said no. I forgot to remove them from the front of the post. I'll do it now.

[Peter6109]

Jeez, one more time: Especially early OG dyesubs on HASRO have totally different colors! Alphas not "cherry beige", it's milky-white, dark-white. It's would be better if you made GMK set with custom colors, or just call this set HAV.

If this ever gets going I will probably change the name to GMK Beige Red Cyrillic or something along those lines. Sav is a good attention grabber though. I love my SAV set.

[stomaha]

GMK Beige Red Cyrillic

[Edric]

Why are the vendors saying no? Are they concerned about this set not hitting MOQ? Or are we getting political now? X)

[twitchytheinsideman]

Why are the vendors saying no? Are they concerned about this set not hitting MOQ? Or are we getting political now? X)

Vendors think it wont reach MOQ.

KKB Red Cyrillic didnt reach MOQ.

And: "There is XMI and CRP Red Cyrillic, just buy that. There is no demand for GMK version of it."

[NightFox99]

Why are the vendors saying no? Are they concerned about this set not hitting MOQ? Or are we getting political now? X)

Don't think so. They're afraid it won't hit the MOQ, no more. Otherwise it rather silly. Cyrillic characters did not invade Ukraine. It's just keycaps. It's like Koen Roemers justifying Perestroika will not be remade : he can argue a lot about what his intention was while designing the set but 1) what about those who precisely struggle for the freedom in Russia in Ukraine and pay with their lives for it ? Why can't it serve them and us as a symbolism that "would empower [its] users with the possibility of progression and unleash new veins of thought". "Reform and openness" is needed more than ever never and remaking the set made again could be a remider of that.

As you can see, it's just a matter of interpretation which leads to 2) the set itself has it's own life within the community and not bound by any of the above mentioned : it's just a highly appreciated (+hyped?) set of keycaps, no more. Do you really think most of users think of the symbiolism of Perestroika set ? Come on, basically it's : "USSR = Red = Perestroika", at best.

Should vendors stop selling GMK Taiga because Taiga is a part of Russia? Should GMK Yuri be banished because there's a photo of Yuri Gagarin, USSR cosmonaut, on the box ? GMK WoB Red Cyrillic because it has a Saint Basil's Cathedral (based in Moscow) dome as a special keycap ? Let's just condemn all cyrillic sets to non-existence... 

Makes no sense to you ? Make none to me either. Anyway, no Perestroika, ok, we'll be just fine BUT please let's depoliticize keycaps and skip finding some easy excuses for gatekeeping the highly sought cyrillic sets or not making new ones.

[gfreeman11898]

Adding icon mods (OG, not that centered stuff) should get you to MOQ. Also, throw in a red ESC. 

[DeMechanica]

Still as keen as ever for this set. Cyrillic legends aren’t exclusively associated with Putin, that’s silly. And GMK is neither KKB nor CRP, I am a GMK fan and I want this in GMK (although I do own the CRP version). I am hyped for this to eventually be made.

Re: Perestroika, the opening up of Russia is actually anti-USSR, pro-freedom and democracy, so that makes no sense at all. Perestroika also deserves another run and it’ll blast through MOQs.