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Title: [GB] GMK JIS | Shipping
Post by: 2Moons on Sun, 14 November 2021, 18:30:42
(https://i.imgur.com/U59hxag.jpg)

Follow these links to join the Group Buy!
November 14, 2021 - December 14, 2021

   
   US: Mekibo (https://mekibo.com/products/gmk-jis-group-buy)

   CA: ApexKeyboards (https://www.apexkeyboards.ca/products/gb-gmk-jis)

  SEA: Monokei.co (https://monokei.co/products/gmk-jis)

    JP: Yushakobo (https://shop.yushakobo.jp/products/3065)

   EU: Mykeyboard.eu (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/keycaps/gmk-jis_627/)

   AU: Daily Clack (https://dailyclack.com/products/gmk-jis)

   Worldwide: KBDfans (https://kbdfans.com/products/gmk-jis)

Expected Ship Date: Q4 2022

Pricing
More
NA [Mekibo] (USD)
Basekit - $134.99
Alphas - $62.99
Extensions - $49.99
Spacebars - $29.99
JIS Screwdriver - $40.00
JIS Emergency Exit - $45.00

EU [Mykeyboard] (EUR)
Basekit - €141.99
Alphas - €65.99
Extensions - €53.00
Spacebars - €31.00
JIS Screwdriver - €42.00
JIS Emergency Exit - €47.00

JP [Yushakobo] (Yen)
Basekit - ¥18,700
Alphas - ¥9,240
Extensions - ¥7,150
Spacebars - ¥4,400
JIS Screwdriver - ¥5,280
JIS Emergency Exit - ¥6,600

CA [ApexKeyboards] (CAD)
Basekit - $180.00
Alphas - $85.00
Extensions - $66.00
Spacebars - $42.00
JIS Screwdriver - $40.00
JIS Emergency Exit - $50.00

SEA [Monokei] (SGD)
Basekit - $180.00
Alphas - $85.00
Extensions - $66.00
Spacebars - $42.00
JIS Screwdriver - $40.00
JIS Emergency Exit - $50.00

Oceania [DailyClack] (AUD)
Basekit - $203.00
Alphas - $95.00
Extensions - $75.00
Spacebars - $45.00
JIS Screwdriver - $60.00
JIS Emergency Exit - $67.50

Worldwide [KBDfans] (USD)
Basekit - $142.00
Alphas - $72.00
Extensions - $62.00
Spacebars - $42.00
JIS Screwdriver -
JIS Emergency Exit -



Design & Inspiration
The original idea for this set comes from having a fully functional Japanese kit. Current GMK sets are not functional on a modern Japanese keyboard. This set hopes to inspire the idea of having future GMK IC's the chance to offer a Japanese extension kit as an option. Hopefully this might inspire new types of keyboards to be used. This kit combines both ANSI and JIS.

Base Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/qw0JVfJ.png)

Extensions Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/NfPEWxS.png)

Spacebar Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/tg0fdQd.png)

Board Renders
(https://i.imgur.com/MFbXdnc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oRbKyW3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ISvUvT5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6pwAXnr.jpg)


Artisan Collaboration
KeyBee Manufacturing
Both are anodized aluminum with enamel infill.

R1 JIS Screwdriver
(https://i.imgur.com/swLaxuY.png)

R3 JIS Emergency Exit
(https://i.imgur.com/fhf4HUw.png)

Legal
Permitted from JSA to use the name JIS https://www.jsa.or.jp/en/  (https://www.jsa.or.jp/en/).
Permission from Filco and PFU (Realforce Rep) to use circular images for henkan and muhenkan.
Not permitted to use the official JIS logo.

Discord
(https://i.imgur.com/sYbcFHB.png) (https://discord.gg/sZGG7J3zSk)

Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: 2Moons on Mon, 15 November 2021, 21:37:07
Reserved
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: HungHingDaiLo on Tue, 16 November 2021, 08:22:25
Good luck with GB, 2Moons!
Can't wait to see the finished product when it finally shipped!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: mini_ninja_64 on Tue, 16 November 2021, 09:45:18
Is been a long time coming, great work UwU
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: Pach on Tue, 16 November 2021, 12:14:28
We're finally here! This is hype

Edit: Speaking of, I heard that you were planning to make h87 compatible PCBs (and others) for the JIS layout. Got any info on how that's going? and shouldn't need any different plates, right?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: 2Moons on Wed, 17 November 2021, 22:39:58
Quote from: HungHingDaiLo on Tue, 16 November 2021, 08:22:25
Good luck with GB, 2Moons!
Can't wait to see the finished product when it finally shipped!

Thank you so much, that means a lot!

Quote from: Pach on Tue, 16 November 2021, 12:14:28
We're finally here! This is hype

Edit: Speaking of, I heard that you were planning to make h87 compatible PCBs (and others) for the JIS layout. Got any info on how that's going? and shouldn't need any different plates, right?

87c JIS PCB sitting in my house waiting to go to GB with all of it done. Might need a plate.
88 JIS PCB is already done and should go to group buy really soon. With plates and everything done!
60 percent JIS PCB - Ai03 has one out and I'll be coming out with one after I get plates done.
Safa TKL will offer a JIS ready plate with a 3u spacebar. I have a prototype with the proper plate and I'll be doing a build stream for it soon.
There is a 65% JIS in the hopper which needs a prototype.

In addition people are already adding JIS kitting to new GMK keycap sets! Very exciting!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 21 November 2021, 14:24:26
GLWGB!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: yh on Tue, 23 November 2021, 22:22:46
This is great, GLWGB 2Moons! Will support!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | Week 2 | Live until December 14th
Post by: 2Moons on Wed, 24 November 2021, 19:51:14
Quote from: konstantin on Sun, 21 November 2021, 14:24:26
GLWGB!

Quote from: yh on Tue, 23 November 2021, 22:22:46
This is great, GLWGB 2Moons! Will support!

Thank you so much. Thank you everyone for the support and supporting future GMK JIS keycap sets!

11/24
The Alphas kit was removed.


Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 24 November 2021, 21:38:19
(https://i.postimg.cc/0kCCXxfN/GMKjis-Wo-Borders211124.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: Sup on Fri, 26 November 2021, 19:42:01
I will buy one and hope that in 2023 we have someone make a 60% tray mount PCB that supports JIS LMAO
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: Hyperdimension on Mon, 29 November 2021, 00:44:44
Quote from: dvorcol on Wed, 24 November 2021, 21:38:19
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/0kCCXxfN/GMKjis-Wo-Borders211124.png)

How am I supposed to read this? the MOQ is 500 and only 58 units have been sold so far?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: Pach on Tue, 30 November 2021, 14:35:09
Quote from: Hyperdimension on Mon, 29 November 2021, 00:44:44
Quote from: dvorcol on Wed, 24 November 2021, 21:38:19
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/0kCCXxfN/GMKjis-Wo-Borders211124.png)

How am I supposed to read this? the MOQ is 500 and only 58 units have been sold so far?

Was also a little worried by this. However I'm sure this will pick up a lot during the last few days like any set, and if each vendor buys a good amount of extras it's doable.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: pancake on Tue, 30 November 2021, 15:54:40
Quote from: Sup on Fri, 26 November 2021, 19:42:01
I will buy one and hope that in 2023 we have someone make a 60% tray mount PCB that supports JIS LMAO

Closest we'll get for now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://shop.yushakobo.jp/products/2988
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 08 December 2021, 05:04:52
Quote from: dvorcol on Wed, 24 November 2021, 21:38:19
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/0kCCXxfN/GMKjis-Wo-Borders211124.png)


So the alpha set is actually not going to be made in this run?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: Hamel on Wed, 08 December 2021, 19:10:36
Quote from: dvorcol on Wed, 24 November 2021, 21:38:19
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/0kCCXxfN/GMKjis-Wo-Borders211124.png)


Is this set going to happen whether it meets MOQ or not?
I'm eager to join but the numbers seems rather low as of now.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 08 December 2021, 20:26:56
Quote from: Hamel on Wed, 08 December 2021, 19:10:36
Quote from: dvorcol on Wed, 24 November 2021, 21:38:19
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/0kCCXxfN/GMKjis-Wo-Borders211124.png)


Is this set going to happen whether it meets MOQ or not?
I'm eager to join but the numbers seems rather low as of now.

I'm pretty sure this set will make it. Mekibo is a good vendor and knows when to pull a set, there's a reason why it's still up. Vendors are probably working behind the scenes to make sure that they can buy the set out. I've made sure to pick up a Base Kit and the Emergency Exit artisan!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 10 December 2021, 13:19:00
(https://i.postimg.cc/s34dkL9y/GMKjis-Wo-Borders211210.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | 3 days left!
Post by: 2Moons on Sat, 11 December 2021, 18:05:19
Thanks everyone. One final push to the finish line.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | 3 days left!
Post by: arcticarc on Sat, 11 December 2021, 21:24:31
Will be ordering base, spacebars and emergency exit in a couple days once i get paid! Holidays are tough man. So excited for this set.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | 3 days left!
Post by: tmc_2269 on Wed, 15 December 2021, 09:58:43
Were we able to hit MOQ? I would assume we are still waiting for final numbers to come in.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | 3 days left!
Post by: Arithmetics on Wed, 15 December 2021, 12:14:06
JIS Do It
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | 3 days left!
Post by: LAWSON on Wed, 15 December 2021, 21:22:46
Ordered an emergency exit artisan ;D hopefully we were able to reach MOQ!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | 3 days left!
Post by: Jo_hannes on Thu, 16 December 2021, 03:41:55
I also went in last day. I assume this will be fine, the numbers looked quite okay and I am sure extras will carry this set without issue. /Johannes
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | 3 days left!
Post by: 2Moons on Thu, 16 December 2021, 05:26:07
Quote from: Jo_hannes on Thu, 16 December 2021, 03:41:55
I also went in last day. I assume this will be fine, the numbers looked quite okay and I am sure extras will carry this set without issue. /Johannes

Thank you everyone who went in on the last day. There was quite a surge at the end. Once numbers are finalized I'll have dvorcol post it here. Looks like it will be fine. Many more thanks to come. Cheers.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Thu, 16 December 2021, 16:36:09
I really wanted to get in on this.
...to bad it cost money  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | MOQ REACHED | GB Closed
Post by: 2Moons on Thu, 16 December 2021, 20:06:04
I'm happy to announce that MOQ will be reached on all kits. It was a 2 year project for me that is finally coming to a close. There are too many people to thank that I'm sure I might miss some.

Thank you to all that gave me the idea to run JIS. There are many people who encouraged me to run this.

Konstantin and Kidviddy for kitting and taking the time to help with compatibility.

Mykeyboard for doing a lot of work with GMK on this. Giving advice along the way.

JSA group for legally allowing me to use the word JIS. Realforce and Filco for allowing me to use the henkan and muhenkan icons.

Many people who gave your honest review.

Thank you to everyone in the community for believing in this project and supporting it, without you, it wouldn't be possible.

The future is bright for GMK JIS kitting and new keycap sets like GMK Teradrive are already in IC. Recently, new keyboards have been designed with JIS in mind.

Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | MOQ REACHED | GB Closed
Post by: kidviddy on Thu, 16 December 2021, 20:13:04
Quote from: 2Moons on Thu, 16 December 2021, 20:06:04
I'm happy to announce that MOQ will be reached on all kits. It was a 2 year project for me that is finally coming to a close. There are too many people to thank that I'm sure I might miss some.

Thank you for seeing this through, and for finally making JIS support for GMK sets a reality! Many of us complained that it wasn't there, but you were the one who actually did something about it. Congratulations on a successful GB and here's looking forward to a bright future of JIS-supporting GMK keysets!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | MOQ REACHED | GB Closed
Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 17 December 2021, 03:44:12
(https://i.postimg.cc/zqZmpz8X/GMKjis-Wo-Borders211214fin-Yext.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | MOQ REACHED | GB Closed
Post by: achingfingers on Wed, 12 January 2022, 11:28:15
Argh.....just discovered this....hopefully one of the vendors stock extra..
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | MOQ REACHED | GB Closed
Post by: Hyperdimension on Thu, 13 January 2022, 19:05:44
Quote from: achingfingers on Wed, 12 January 2022, 11:28:15
Argh.....just discovered this....hopefully one of the vendors stock extra..

Mykeyboard.eu has extras on pre-order, if you live in the EU.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | MOQ REACHED | GB Closed
Post by: Totoro on Thu, 13 January 2022, 23:41:10
Nice
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | MOQ REACHED | GB Closed
Post by: SdoRy on Mon, 17 January 2022, 18:01:42
Is there no 1.75u shift in this kit? Because the one in the render looks like a 1.5u, and none of the additional shifts are 1.75u either.

Edit: NVM I'm stupid, the ctrl below is 1.25 so it adds up
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | MOQ REACHED | GB Closed
Post by: Fredington on Mon, 17 January 2022, 18:02:38
Quote from: SdoRy on Mon, 17 January 2022, 18:01:42
Is there no 1.75u shift in this kit? Because the one in the render looks like a 1.5u, and none of the additional shifts are 1.75u either.

It’s in the base kit under the ISO Enter.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | MOQ REACHED | GB Closed
Post by: XBLRad on Tue, 18 January 2022, 19:49:41
Just found out about this set and I can't be anymore upset about missing out. I guess I just have to hope and pray for extras
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | MOQ REACHED | GB Closed
Post by: max.clacks on Wed, 19 January 2022, 10:38:02
Quote from: XBLRad on Tue, 18 January 2022, 19:49:41
Just found out about this set and I can't be anymore upset about missing out. I guess I just have to hope and pray for extras

Not sure if they ship to your region, but it looks like it's possible to preorder some of the kits (base kit is available) from mykeyboard.eu.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | MOQ REACHED | GB Closed
Post by: XBLRad on Wed, 19 January 2022, 11:00:45
Quote from: max.clacks on Wed, 19 January 2022, 10:38:02
Quote from: XBLRad on Tue, 18 January 2022, 19:49:41
Just found out about this set and I can't be anymore upset about missing out. I guess I just have to hope and pray for extras

Not sure if they ship to your region, but it looks like it's possible to preorder some of the kits (base kit is available) from mykeyboard.eu.


I'm in NA and when I look for it on the website I can't find it. Are you telling me there is still a way for me to secure a set?!?!?!

Edit: I was able to locate and preorder a set. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | MOQ REACHED | GB Closed
Post by: 2Moons on Tue, 22 March 2022, 03:18:00
Update on this set:


"As per the new 4.5U Spacebar in the GMK JIS Spacebars kit. There is no Cherry Definition to the sizing. Can you please review the following specification, if this is correct?"

(https://i.imgur.com/j6Ewxnk.png)

I thought I would share with everyone not just my Discord group. There have been some submissions on different 4.5u spacebars but wanted to see if anyone had other comments. This is likely to effect on all 4.5u spacebars where there are no molds currently, not only GMK. I'm also waiting on 2 more 4.5u spacebars and will measure them just to be sure. One from KBRepublic and one from Filco.

(https://i.imgur.com/6JIi6ND.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WOiOynh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/O4ycETl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Pejw6V1.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | UPDATE 4.5u Spacebar Size Approval (in comments)
Post by: 2Moons on Wed, 08 June 2022, 18:44:59
GMK was sent and received two 4.5u spacebars and a 4.5u stabilizer for comparison to make their mold.

I sent them an XDA from KBRepublic, a Filco from a Filco JIS set, and a stabilizer from Aliexpress. I also asked if they would like an SA for comparison.

Cheers everyone.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | UPDATE 4.5u Spacebar Size Approval (in comments)
Post by: Tyson on Thu, 09 June 2022, 08:35:57
Quote from: 2Moons on Wed, 08 June 2022, 18:44:59
GMK was sent and received two 4.5u spacebars and a 4.5u stabilizer for comparison to make their mold.

I sent them an XDA from KBRepublic, a Filco from a Filco JIS set, and a stabilizer from Aliexpress. I also asked if they would like an SA for comparison.

Cheers everyone.

Fantastic work on the updates! Can't wait for this set to arrive! It's going to be great!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | UPDATE 4.5u Spacebars Sent to GMK (in comments)
Post by: 2Moons on Mon, 10 October 2022, 19:30:11
After the spacebars were sent to GMK, I have not heard anything.

The last I heard is that they wanted the banderrole in some short amount of time. I have not heard anything since. I will try to follow up on what the bandderrole ended up looking like.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | UPDATE 4.5u Spacebars Sent to GMK (in comments)
Post by: 2Moons on Wed, 16 November 2022, 21:27:22
I was asked yesterday which font I wanted to use for GMK JIS. Please vote:

https://forms.gle/6bprJeLZ3ySS1Ndd6 (https://forms.gle/6bprJeLZ3ySS1Ndd6)
 
(https://i.imgur.com/s4CaKxv.jpg)

Number 1. GMK Laser, Red Samurai Font
(https://i.imgur.com/CgdpMZp.jpg)


Number 2. Serika R2, Striker R2 Font
(https://i.imgur.com/bkqCtuV.jpg)

Voting will close November 24th
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | CHOOSE THE FONT until Nov 24th
Post by: udller on Wed, 16 November 2022, 22:56:59
so the option 2 has the double sub-legends? is that the main difference ?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | CHOOSE THE FONT until Nov 24th
Post by: Techlet on Wed, 16 November 2022, 23:07:12
2 is closer to the renders.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | CHOOSE THE FONT until Nov 24th
Post by: 2Moons on Wed, 16 November 2022, 23:15:08
Quote from: udller on Wed, 16 November 2022, 22:56:59
so the option 2 has the double sub-legends? is that the main difference ?

I believe they both have that. The main difference is the font type.

GMK Laser has a thicker font style.

Striker has roman legends adjusted to cherry font, in addition to some fixes from the original.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | CHOOSE THE FONT until Nov 24th
Post by: kidviddy on Thu, 17 November 2022, 04:24:49
I have voted (I voted 2), but more than any personal preference or aesthetic consideration I think that this set should be no more or less than a JIS equivalent of the standard GMK WoB, and that people may well want to pair it with keys from that set, so whichever is closer to the standard GMK legends is the one that should be used.

(All this is assuming the only thing under discussion is the typeface and not the legends themselves… obviously the legends should be those that were shown in the original renders, i.e. the 0 key should have the を legend on it, as Serika and Striker do and Laser does not, etc.)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | CHOOSE THE FONT until Nov 24th
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 17 November 2022, 07:54:15
Highly suggest going with Striker/Serika. Zambumon put in the work to fix the legends for a reason.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | CHOOSE THE FONT until Nov 24th
Post by: Ensaum on Thu, 17 November 2022, 21:55:20
Perhaps I am just blind, but I am struggling to tell a substantial difference between the two. To me it literally does not matter which one you choose.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | UPDATE 4.5u Spacebars Sent to GMK (in comments)
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 19 November 2022, 16:09:11
Quote from: 2Moons on Wed, 16 November 2022, 21:27:22
I was asked yesterday which font I wanted to use for GMK JIS. Please vote:
https://forms.gle/6bprJeLZ3ySS1Ndd6 (https://forms.gle/6bprJeLZ3ySS1Ndd6)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/s4CaKxv.jpg)


Number 1. GMK Laser, Red Samurai Font
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CgdpMZp.jpg)


Number 2. Serika R2, Striker R2 Font
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bkqCtuV.jpg)


Voting will close November 24th

Looking at the examples listed, it appears there are three versions of Hiragana sub-legends available for the bracket/brace keycaps.

(https://i.postimg.cc/B3Mmgyzt/Original1vs2.png)

Option 1 examples show two different versions.  Call Laser's Version A, and Red Samurai's Version B.

Option 2 Serika and Striker both show Version C.

Also, the Hiragana sub-legends for the period/greater than and forward slash/question mark keycaps are different between Option 1 and Option 2.

Also, almost all Numrow Hiragana sub-legends are different between Option 1 and Option 2
(https://i.postimg.cc/0PFQkcmd/numrow1vs2-b.png)
More
(https://i.postimg.cc/nx52PnMX/numrow1vs2.png)
<-- old pic

I'm not sure which version of Hiragana sub-legends is best, but maybe this is the more important question?
______________________________________

Regarding the preferred thickness of Latin legends, looking at photos of actual GMK keycaps would be better.  I don't think these kit renders capture the actual product with 100% accuracy.  For example, all four legends on the single quote/double quote and semicolon/colon keycaps look different.

Edit: additions in italics
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | UPDATE 4.5u Spacebars Sent to GMK (in comments)
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 19 November 2022, 17:05:38
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Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | CHOOSE THE FONT until Nov 24th
Post by: 2Moons on Sun, 20 November 2022, 18:48:38
Quote from: kidviddy on Thu, 17 November 2022, 04:24:49
I have voted (I voted 2), but more than any personal preference or aesthetic consideration I think that this set should be no more or less than a JIS equivalent of the standard GMK WoB, and that people may well want to pair it with keys from that set, so whichever is closer to the standard GMK legends is the one that should be used.

(All this is assuming the only thing under discussion is the typeface and not the legends themselves… obviously the legends should be those that were shown in the original renders, i.e. the 0 key should have the を legend on it, as Serika and Striker do and Laser does not, etc.)

This would be more of an issue if the second base kit made MOQ, the one without hiragana sublegends. There is GMK WoB Hiragana but that is only hiragana legends.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | UPDATE 4.5u Spacebars Sent to GMK (in comments)
Post by: 2Moons on Sun, 20 November 2022, 18:52:52
Quote from: dvorcol on Sat, 19 November 2022, 16:09:11
Quote from: 2Moons on Wed, 16 November 2022, 21:27:22
I was asked yesterday which font I wanted to use for GMK JIS. Please vote:
https://forms.gle/6bprJeLZ3ySS1Ndd6 (https://forms.gle/6bprJeLZ3ySS1Ndd6)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/s4CaKxv.jpg)


Number 1. GMK Laser, Red Samurai Font
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CgdpMZp.jpg)


Number 2. Serika R2, Striker R2 Font
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bkqCtuV.jpg)


Voting will close November 24th

Looking at the examples listed, it appears there are three versions of Hiragana sub-legends available for the bracket/brace keycaps.

Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/B3Mmgyzt/Original1vs2.png)


Option 1 examples show two different versions.  Call Laser's Version A, and Red Samurai's Version B.

Option 2 Serika and Striker both show Version C.

Also, the Hiragana sub-legends for the period/greater than and forward slash/question mark keycaps are different between Option 1 and Option 2.

Also, almost all Numrow Hiragana sub-legends are different between Option 1 and Option 2
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/nx52PnMX/numrow1vs2.png)


I'm not sure which version of Hiragana sub-legends is best, but maybe this is the more important question?
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Regarding the preferred thickness of Latin legends, looking at photos of actual GMK keycaps would be better.  I don't think these kit renders capture the actual product with 100% accuracy.  For example, all four legends on the single quote/double quote and semicolon/colon keycaps look different.

Edit: additions in italics

This is some really great work. I really appreciate the time and effort that went into this. One factor vendors were interested in was which one was closest to the renders. Actually neither were perfect because the GMK Samurai font is closed source. At the time myself and other people didn't even know that Serika was a separate font. Even though it does look close.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | November 14th - December 14th
Post by: Pach on Mon, 06 March 2023, 15:35:02
Quote from: 2Moons on Wed, 17 November 2021, 22:39:58
Quote from: HungHingDaiLo on Tue, 16 November 2021, 08:22:25
Good luck with GB, 2Moons!
Can't wait to see the finished product when it finally shipped!

Thank you so much, that means a lot!

Quote from: Pach on Tue, 16 November 2021, 12:14:28
We're finally here! This is hype

Edit: Speaking of, I heard that you were planning to make h87 compatible PCBs (and others) for the JIS layout. Got any info on how that's going? and shouldn't need any different plates, right?

87c JIS PCB sitting in my house waiting to go to GB with all of it done. Might need a plate.
88 JIS PCB is already done and should go to group buy really soon. With plates and everything done!
60 percent JIS PCB - Ai03 has one out and I'll be coming out with one after I get plates done.
Safa TKL will offer a JIS ready plate with a 3u spacebar. I have a prototype with the proper plate and I'll be doing a build stream for it soon.
There is a 65% JIS in the hopper which needs a prototype.

In addition people are already adding JIS kitting to new GMK keycap sets! Very exciting!

Been checking in on this on and off because it might be interesting for my next build, what's the news on the 87c JIS PCB/plate and is there a way or somewhere to buy it now?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | Serika Font
Post by: XBLRad on Wed, 19 April 2023, 18:41:41
Is there an ETA on shipping yet?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | Serika Font
Post by: 2Moons on Wed, 19 April 2023, 21:23:35
Quote from: XBLRad on Wed, 19 April 2023, 18:41:41
Is there an ETA on shipping yet?

They said early June.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | Serika Font
Post by: 2Moons on Thu, 06 July 2023, 21:48:15
Mekibo is saying coming soon. Which means it is likely to ship out from GMK this month. We asked that whoever gets theirs opens one and gives pictures of the new legends and spacebar.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | Serika Font
Post by: armintehgreat on Sat, 08 July 2023, 20:00:40
Now that this is being delivered soon, does anyone have a source for 4.5u stabilizer wires? Was going to build my Safa in JIS but having difficulty finding one.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | Serika Font
Post by: Arrinura on Sun, 09 July 2023, 12:44:20
Quote from: armintehgreat on Sat, 08 July 2023, 20:00:40
Now that this is being delivered soon, does anyone have a source for 4.5u stabilizer wires? Was going to build my Safa in JIS but having difficulty finding one.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32855603554.html

There you go, just make sure to ask them for 4.5u wires.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | GB Closed | Serika Font
Post by: armintehgreat on Mon, 10 July 2023, 02:09:18
Quote from: Arrinura on Sun, 09 July 2023, 12:44:20
Quote from: armintehgreat on Sat, 08 July 2023, 20:00:40
Now that this is being delivered soon, does anyone have a source for 4.5u stabilizer wires? Was going to build my Safa in JIS but having difficulty finding one.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32855603554.html

There you go, just make sure to ask them for 4.5u wires.

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | Shipping
Post by: 2Moons on Tue, 11 July 2023, 20:04:13
Just basing it off this picture alone, I'm pretty happy with the result. Even though what we submitted wasn't perfect, they were able to get it correct in the Serika font. I'd really like to see measurements of the 4.5u though, including stabilizer width.


(https://i.imgur.com/mdsLSiU.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | Shipping
Post by: Sup on Fri, 14 July 2023, 11:04:18
Is it actually shipping? Haven't really heard anything from vendors.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | Shipping
Post by: popkorn62 on Fri, 14 July 2023, 11:34:24
Quote from: Sup on Fri, 14 July 2023, 11:04:18
Is it actually shipping? Haven't really heard anything from vendors.

US customers was contacted for the last address change on July 6th. Fulfillment started July 13th.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | Shipping
Post by: Sup on Mon, 17 July 2023, 11:22:34
Quote from: popkorn62 on Fri, 14 July 2023, 11:34:24
Quote from: Sup on Fri, 14 July 2023, 11:04:18
Is it actually shipping? Haven't really heard anything from vendors.

US customers was contacted for the last address change on July 6th. Fulfillment started July 13th.

Ah i see. I got my set from Mykeyboard.EU and it seems they are in problems with cashflow so i guess i may never see my set.  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | Shipping
Post by: MentholMoose on Wed, 09 August 2023, 01:58:46
I'm in the US and received my preorder from KBDfans in late July.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | Shipping
Post by: zeronova on Sat, 27 January 2024, 21:54:34
is GMK JIS affected by the crooked 1.5u alt and ctrl keys?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK JIS | Shipping
Post by: popkorn62 on Tue, 30 January 2024, 13:05:42
Quote from: zeronova on Sat, 27 January 2024, 21:54:34
is GMK JIS affected by the crooked 1.5u alt and ctrl keys?

Not that I have seen. I opened 2 sets myself to take some pics and they are not crooked.