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(https://i.imgur.com/ba5RDvm.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108119.0)Needs more baguetteAgree! A complete uniform set in this base color would be beautiful.
Love the choice of colors. I still say add a monochrome mod kit and see if it meets MOQ/has large enough interest.
Wouldn't this be better with Infinikey? ePBT's reverse dyesub quality is not very good.
Which ePBT sets are reverse dyesub? (I quickly googled it but haven't found any)
Which ePBT sets are reverse dyesub? (I quickly googled it but haven't found any)
Kuro/Shiro accents
Wouldn't this be better with Infinikey? ePBT's reverse dyesub quality is not very good.
Which ePBT sets are reverse dyesub? (I quickly googled it but haven't found any)
Kuro/Shiro accents
Looks nice, but I agree that another manu would be better :)
Consider changing manufacturers. EPBT will likely not be able to produce this.
Unfortunately it does not have Colevrak support so it does not work for me :(
if people interested in other language i'm willing to add those if enough people interested in.
i mainly made it for people not being able to get for example GMK Oblivion / Nord which are in the same tones / theme.
On nice! didn't consider that Colevrak was included on that note.Unfortunately it does not have Colevrak support so it does not work for me :(Quoteif people interested in other language i'm willing to add those if enough people interested in.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I like that this will be a more affordable similar-ish scheme to
Nord. Very interested in the small compat kit. May I recommend dropping both gold/blue R4 1u shifts and both gold/blue R3 1.5u Fn keys. You already offer plenty of accents in red and tan that the gold not only clashes with, but potentially increases the price of the small compat kit because of additional colors (not sure if that is a concern though for this manuf). The kit still needs 1u shift though, so perhaps offer it in tan/blue?
Anyways, GL with IC!
If you're including the extra 'B' in the base kit, it would be nice to have the space bars in there, too.
I like that this will be a more affordable similar-ish scheme to
Nord. Very interested in the small compat kit. May I recommend dropping both gold/blue R4 1u shifts and both gold/blue R3 1.5u Fn keys. You already offer plenty of accents in red and tan that the gold not only clashes with, but potentially increases the price of the small compat kit because of additional colors (not sure if that is a concern though for this manuf). The kit still needs 1u shift though, so perhaps offer it in tan/blue?
Anyways, GL with IC!
You mean dropping the accents of r4 1U shift and r3 1.5u Fn? only the accent not the regular one? What about the tab and the backspace?
I mean for the 40s compat is the accent on ESC and enter enough? To be honest i've replicated the accent to the whole kit to match the possibility offered by the accent kit; but does it make really sense? I don't know i use only 60% and TKL :/
Opinion from 40 people appreciated here
I guess there is an error in the frozen north kit with one of the number rows labelled as R3. They are usually on R1, right?
but then the required R3 #~, R3 '@ and R4 \| keys are missing for no apparent reason.
Also: the base kit and both French kits display the vertical bar (|) as the broken bar (¦), but the "Be the frozen north" kit uses the plain vertical bar instead (and that's before considering the `¬¦ keycap, which has a broken bar to represent... a broken bar).
has some slight shrinkage on the enter key but nothing terrible.
Wouldn't this be better with Infinikey? ePBT's reverse dyesub quality is not very good.
Wouldn't this be better with Infinikey? ePBT's reverse dyesub quality is not very good.
Infinikey doesn't exactly have a great track record either.
Just look at what's happened with Graen.
Wouldn't this be better with Infinikey? ePBT's reverse dyesub quality is not very good.
Infinikey doesn't exactly have a great track record either.
Just look at what's happened with Graen.
> “Inspired by an IDE theme”I don't see how these things are related :V
> Lacks command and option keys
Wut.
I would also drop the 1.75u spacebar as I’m not sure there are any 40% layouts which use only one; there are a couple which use two, but they aren’t very popular.Only Vortex Core uses 1× 1.75u. Also Minitomic, but I don't think that exists outside of protos, and the project appears to be dead.
I would also drop the 3u as I don’t know what uses that. Further, I would add a second 2u spacebar because the 2x2u layout on ortho is fairly popular.Equinox and some 60% boards use 3u, but they need two of them. Agreed on 2× 2u.
It's good to know that you communicated these concerns to EPBT/Wei in advance and that you will be getting samples. Hopefully at least one for each color pair?Consider changing manufacturers. EPBT will likely not be able to produce this.
Regarding the concerns about ePbt and reverse dyesub; i've validated the possibility of realizing this project with Wei before starting the renders and so on. I'm currently waiting for samples. Kuro/Shiro accents were a bit fuzzy on some batches but some others came OK. See: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/364402716354543617/744500386097922148/IMG_20200816_121745.jpg?width=512&height=683
Sidenote, the kuro/shiro accent is deep black which may involves more stress on the key itself leading to the potential issue some keys had.
Also If we check the ePbt Royal alpha it came pretty good: https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/hCCQY0RMYuionNl8UxiRF7SszKLEb2QtuG1uqWVc3ps/%3Fv%3D1595318844/https/cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/products/7_e6b342c5-d95e-4a2f-b07a-b8118d96ce64_1800x1800.jpg?width=683&height=683
Not saying here i'm blindly sure it will come out perfect, i'm waiting for samples to validate it.
Why choose ePbt? Because the MOQ policy is way more flexible for child kits with less popularity like FR/BE/Norde/dvorak and so on. This set without this compatibility makes no real sense to me as i mainly made it for people not being able to get for example GMK Oblivion / Nord which are in the same tones / theme.
- R1 End and PgDn can be moved from base to the numpad kit. These keys are only used on 1800/CP/96-key boards and only when paired together with a numpad.
- I think you should remove stepped 1.75u Control from the base and rainbow kits. It isn't that common, and if someone really wants to have stepped Control, they can use the ⇩ key: the down arrow icon is fairly generic (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106725.msg2948865#msg2948865) anyway.
- I would like to see regular | replace broken bar ¦ as the main pipe legend. This will also make the set consistent with how the intl kits are currently set up.
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- That rainbow kit is really cool! A dark yellow R4 1u Fn key will need to be added, though (to pair with the dark yellow 1.75u Shift).
- The 40s kit is definitely bloated, as DrHigsby said.
I think the Pause, PrtSc, ScrLk and NumLk keys would look better if they used single-line “Pause”, “Print”, “Scroll” and “Num” legends, respectively. This change would make all of the text legends in the set consistently single-line.
I suggest removing sublegends on the numpad keys, again for aesthetics and visual consistency.
I suggest dropping 1.75u space from the spacebars kit and replacing it with a second 3u space and a 1u space (useful for Alice boards and 3u+1u+3u split spacebars).
It's good to know that you communicated these concerns to EPBT/Wei in advance and that you will be getting samples. Hopefully at least one for each color pair?
One thing to note is that this would require full 5-sided dyesub rather than just reversed dyesub due do all the different coloured legends.
With epbt teasing their WoB with red hiragana set, it seems that this will be possible pretty soon but rather than comparing the sharpness of the legends to kuro/shiro and royal alpha, that hiragana set will be the real litmus test.
How about doubleshot PBT? Is that a thing now?It ain't a thing as far as custom keycaps go. So that is not a viable solution here.
Any chance for 1.5u "Super" keys?
Perfect set, but why did You removed 1U shift from base and "be the rainbow" kits?
Is there any chance to have r4 "delete" key as well? Maybe its possible to have additional set for GK64/minila layout?
and maybe there is a chance to have a cyrillic set?
There are 1u Shifts in the 40s kit. Might be worth moving one of them to base, though. You can use R4 1u Code for the Delete.
There are 1u Shifts in the 40s kit. Might be worth moving one of them to base, though. You can use R4 1u Code for the Delete.
Sure I can, but from aesthetics point of view I just prefer either blank keycaps, or with actual legends. newer mind.
And IMO its strange to remove 1U shifts from rainbow / mono sets, but leave 2U shifts there. In most cases if You use 2U shift, You need 1U as well. With the same color/accent. Sure its possible to use one from 40s kits, but it ruins perfect look.
This keyset is heavily inspired by the IDE theme One Dark Pro.OK, COUNT ME IN!
Hello all
Added the gk64 compatibility in base kit
added dhm compatibility for Be Ak kit
added dead keys on Be Po kit
You should take advantage for the opportunity to improve some of the euro legends that ePBT has wrong, like ´`| and ¨^~ keys. Make them closer to GMK to get them right.
Not a deal breaker at all, but could it be possible to have Alt Gr keys?
You should take advantage for the opportunity to improve some of the euro legends that ePBT has wrong, like ´`| and ¨^~ keys. Make them closer to GMK to get them right.
I did a lot of work on alignments on the whole template regarding legends.
What's the issue with those legends? The size?
Any chance you'd consider putting the green legend on any other key instead? Cause in HHKB the colors are pretty red/yellow-ishShow Image(https://imgur.com/qca485t.jpg)
Red appears on 3 rows. Two shades of yellow appears twice. Red, brown, yellow and purple they all look kinda similar.
There is green on ESC also. But on HHKB you can put Super instead of ALT here.
any idea on when this is starting?
Pricing?
R3 control has been modified
when is it estimated to be on GB? 2020/2021?
Regarding the time frame of the potential GB, i don't think about it untill i got the samples to check if this is possible with ePbt. When i have an idea i'll post it.
Hi there, have you ever considered making a 1.5u (if I'm not mistaken) FN key for the upcoming Bella kit by KBDFans?
I am interested in this keycaps set but it seems that it is missing the support for the FN key in Bella.
Hi there, have you ever considered making a 1.5u (if I'm not mistaken) FN key for the upcoming Bella kit by KBDFans?
I am interested in this keycaps set but it seems that it is missing the support for the FN key in Bella.
That keyboard is fully programmable, so you can assign that key to whatever you like. Most people use 1.5u Alt, not Fn, on layouts like that.
Welcome to Geekhack, by the way.
Looks cool enough
But a little similar to monokai material
Why choose ePbt? Because the MOQ policy is way more flexible for child kits with less popularity like FR/BE/Norde/dvorak and so on. This set without this compatibility makes no real sense to me as i mainly made it for people not being able to get for example GMK Oblivion / Nord which are in the same tones / theme.
will GB of this take place before end of the year?
Why choose ePbt? Because the MOQ policy is way more flexible for child kits with less popularity like FR/BE/Norde/dvorak and so on. This set without this compatibility makes no real sense to me as i mainly made it for people not being able to get for example GMK Oblivion / Nord which are in the same tones / theme.
Why choose ePbt? Because the MOQ policy is way more flexible for child kits with less popularity like FR/BE/Norde/dvorak and so on. This set without this compatibility makes no real sense to me as i mainly made it for people not being able to get for example GMK Oblivion / Nord which are in the same tones / theme.
Another reason for this set -> PBT instead of ABS. I don't feel comfortable sinking more money into ABS sets until someone figures out a way to prevent shine.
Also, I know this is probably waaaay too late zekth, so feel free to disregard this, but I do love the way that the classic GMK legends were fixed in KAT Refined, to make them sharper and more legible. If that were possible for this, even in a R2, it would be legit.
Inifikey has proven that they have mastered reverse dyesub perfectly (e.g. pbt hive).Legends were crisp but the color matching was off... It was supposed to be dark blueish gray and they were just as black like my other black pbt keycaps. I was able to sell them with profit luckily.
QuoteInifikey has proven that they have mastered reverse dyesub perfectly (e.g. pbt hive).Legends were crisp but the color matching was off... It was supposed to be dark blueish gray and they were just as black like my other black pbt keycaps. I was able to sell them with profit luckily.
QuoteInifikey has proven that they have mastered reverse dyesub perfectly (e.g. pbt hive).Legends were crisp but the color matching was off... It was supposed to be dark blueish gray and they were just as black like my other black pbt keycaps. I was able to sell them with profit luckily.
if people interested in other language i'm willing to add those if enough people interested in.If cyrillic with R3:Tilde/GraveAccent/Ё, count me in.
Not a deal breaker at all, but could it be possible to have Alt Gr keys?
i've thought about it yes but the issue is it will add too much keys in Base / Rainbow / Mono kits :/ sorry
Not a deal breaker at all, but could it be possible to have Alt Gr keys?
i've thought about it yes but the issue is it will add too much keys in Base / Rainbow / Mono kits :/ sorry
A base version could find its place in the baguette kit a least ? It is so rare to see iso fr, i am pretty sure that we could be comfortable to pay a little extra and get a complete kit.
I looked at interest check for Whimsy 40% and thought that 1.5u R4 shift would be a nice addition to the be compact kit.
Ehi man don't you think you forgot to add a layout?
Be the spaghetti?
Ehi man don't you think you forgot to add a layout?
Be the spaghetti?
you gelatto?
Why not. Is this the legit Italian keyboard layout?Show Image(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Italian_Keyboard_layout.svg/1200px-Italian_Keyboard_layout.svg.png)
this kinda looks like GMK hallyu ??
this kinda looks like GMK hallyu ??
Not a deal breaker at all, but could it be possible to have Alt Gr keys?
i've thought about it yes but the issue is it will add too much keys in Base / Rainbow / Mono kits :/ sorry
A base version could find its place in the baguette kit a least ? It is so rare to see iso fr, i am pretty sure that we could be comfortable to pay a little extra and get a complete kit.
Keep in mind ePBT pricing for child kits is pretty low. That kit will likely be less than $15 on its own.
Little heads up on some minor fixes i was working on. Some legends in ePbt templates are off regarding the OG Cherry ones. I've fixed them without making a huge aesthetic change, because making them as similar as OG Cherry would break alignments of all the legends.Hey that's pretty sweet, GJ.
See:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2RdSMvM.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/d1tzDkr.png)
Those are the ones (with alternatives keys in NORDE kit) which were problematic. I managed to get a Cherry DS QWERTZ to compare alignment and legends. If someone see something off feel free to let me know.
Regarding samples, those were supposed to be shipped this week. Still waiting :-X
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/d1tzDkr.png)
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Otherwise I'm loving everything about this except the down arrow for caps lock :thumb:
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Otherwise I'm loving everything about this except the down arrow for caps lock :thumb:
Noooo! Do not touch down arrow! It will ruin this entire set for me!
OK, this sounds like a joke - it isn't, current version of mods is exactly what I need and R3 1.75U DownArrow as a CAPS is critical for me (especially in "Be the rainbow" & "Be Mono")
@Zekth: please do not remove down arrow caps !
OK, I'm officially panicking right now.
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Otherwise I'm loving everything about this except the down arrow for caps lock :thumb:
Noooo! Do not touch down arrow! It will ruin this entire set for me!
OK, this sounds like a joke - it isn't, current version of mods is exactly what I need and R3 1.75U DownArrow as a CAPS is critical for me (especially in "Be the rainbow" & "Be Mono")
@Zekth: please do not remove down arrow caps !
OK, I'm officially panicking right now.
Is it just me but that P sample looks nothing like pantone 7545cIt's not just you, me too, but I like it anyway.
Is it just me but that P sample looks nothing like pantone 7545cIt's not just you, me too, but I like it anyway.
Is it just me but that P sample looks nothing like pantone 7545cIt's not just you, me too, but I like it anyway.
I think the difference comes from the lighting, at least in part. It looks good though.
Those ain't accurate right, i made those pics without taking care about the lighting as i wanted to show the quality of the printing not the accuracy of the colors.Quality seems OK, but "1" seems too close to the keycap edge (?), or at least seems closer to the edge than on GMK.
I also noticed that; wondering if this is something that will be consistent with the rest of the number row, or isolated to that key. Otherwise they look crisp.Those ain't accurate right, i made those pics without taking care about the lighting as i wanted to show the quality of the printing not the accuracy of the colors.Quality seems OK, but "1" seems too close to the keycap edge (?), or at least seems closer to the edge than on GMK.
I also noticed that; wondering if this is something that will be consistent with the rest of the number row, or isolated to that key. Otherwise they look crisp.Those ain't accurate right, i made those pics without taking care about the lighting as i wanted to show the quality of the printing not the accuracy of the colors.Quality seems OK, but "1" seems too close to the keycap edge (?), or at least seems closer to the edge than on GMK.
Here's a comparison with GMK Tokyo Nights, the two orange lines are the same length (difference in perspective causes the overal keycap to differ in size I suppose). ePBT 9009 shows similar results. Not very scientific but that's the best I could pull off.I also noticed that; wondering if this is something that will be consistent with the rest of the number row, or isolated to that key. Otherwise they look crisp.Those ain't accurate right, i made those pics without taking care about the lighting as i wanted to show the quality of the printing not the accuracy of the colors.Quality seems OK, but "1" seems too close to the keycap edge (?), or at least seems closer to the edge than on GMK.
Both the ! And 1 are left aligned and spaced from the edge by the same amount. It can just look a little odd because the 1 is slightly wider. Take a closer look at your favorite GMK set and you'll notice the same thing. Unless its a set with sublegends, those legends are actually completely different from standard GMK legends.
Here's a comparison with GMK Tokyo Nights, the two orange lines are the same length (difference in perspective causes the overal keycap to differ in size I suppose). ePBT 9009 shows similar results. Not very scientific but that's the best I could pull off.I also noticed that; wondering if this is something that will be consistent with the rest of the number row, or isolated to that key. Otherwise they look crisp.Those ain't accurate right, i made those pics without taking care about the lighting as i wanted to show the quality of the printing not the accuracy of the colors.Quality seems OK, but "1" seems too close to the keycap edge (?), or at least seems closer to the edge than on GMK.
Both the ! And 1 are left aligned and spaced from the edge by the same amount. It can just look a little odd because the 1 is slightly wider. Take a closer look at your favorite GMK set and you'll notice the same thing. Unless its a set with sublegends, those legends are actually completely different from standard GMK legends.
Indeed, the samples i received were totally inconsistent in term of alignment and i'm working on it with ePbt, i already submitted a review on this. But i assume as those were protos for the colors and not the set itself the QC was not done properly.Maybe just centering everything is a way to go? I still would buy such an unorthodox set also with centered icon mods.
Ive spent tremendous hours fixing those templates with nu_types and biip; so be sure im definitely keeping an eye on it.
I believe there's a mistake in the current render of the base kit -- the third row up from the bottom is labelled R3, but that should be R4.
Hello everyone,Np! Looking forward to the GB :).
Here is a kit update with the fixed legends discussed with ideus and konstantin. Also added the ISO IT kit and the Cyrillic sub legends kit ( thanks to nu_types )
Also added the ALT GR keys in the INTL kits.
Added the Scooped annotations on the keys.
Still trying to target the GB for end of february, once i got confirmation i'll announce it.
I believe there's a mistake in the current render of the base kit -- the third row up from the bottom is labelled R3, but that should be R4.And R1 with colored Delete & Esc should be R2 apparently.
Hello everyone,
Here is a kit update with the fixed legends discussed with ideus and konstantin. Also added the ISO IT kit and the Cyrillic sub legends kit ( thanks to nu_types )
Also added the ALT GR keys in the INTL kits.
Added the Scooped annotations on the keys.
Still trying to target the GB for end of february, once i got confirmation i'll announce it.
Is it just me or the hashtag legend on the italian set doesn't look right
The—Be the comrade—set would have its own 6.25 space-bar.
Hi, very nice set!
keycaps <Alt Gr> with white/mono legends are missing
On the Italian set, the R3 keycap for the “ç” and the “ò” should also have the “@“ legend on it that you get by pressing AltGr
Is hiragana sublegends possible for this set? I would definitely buy with cyrillic ones along! :thumb:
Why choose ePbt? Because the MOQ policy is way more flexible for child kits with less popularity like FR/BE/Norde/dvorak and so on. This set without this compatibility makes no real sense to me as i mainly made it for people not being able to get for example GMK Oblivion / Nord which are in the same tones / theme.
Another reason for this set -> PBT instead of ABS. I don't feel comfortable sinking more money into ABS sets until someone figures out a way to prevent shine.
Also, I know this is probably waaaay too late zekth, so feel free to disregard this, but I do love the way that the classic GMK legends were fixed in KAT Refined, to make them sharper and more legible. If that were possible for this, even in a R2, it would be legit.
read again, it's not about PBT or ABS, it's about that ePBT is producing it. Inifikey has proven that they have mastered reverse dyesub perfectly (e.g. pbt hive).
Hello!No, how can I join 10 GBs in Feb :'( ?
The group buy will start February 1st!
My problem too :-/Hello!No, how can I join 10 GBs in Feb :'( ?
The group buy will start February 1st!
Hello!Hi, what’s the expected ship date?
The group buy will start February 1st!
Hello!Hi, what’s the expected ship date?
The group buy will start February 1st!
Did the comrade–set lose its space-bar? I hope not.
Did the comrade–set lose its space-bar? I hope not.
No just an error on my side :thumb:
R4 number row on komrad and weeb sets is off cherry profile
Price reveal soon?
Good pricing!
Is the price difference between Rainbow and Mono mods due to reverse dyed?
What are the MoQs?
The Rainbow has three extra caps—and it is cheaper.
I'm in, my first group buy too.
Just to make sure I'm not being stupid, the base kit will be compatible with my KBD75 ISO right? I also added Be the pudding for UK caps.
MOQ looking good, are all kits made?
Hey there !
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE BAGUETTE KIT ! (I jumped on it as I saw it was available). I like the simple but colored aesthetic... but that language kit was the definitive blow ;)
If by any chane you have an estimated date for the delivery, that would be great... if not, I'll be patient ;)
any updates from the factory?You should probably ask in the GB thread here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110929.0)
Is there any option to add ISO Spanish support? I would be cool if you could make another kit including Spanish and Portuguese.