[GB] Tai Hao (ANSI + Add-On Pack) Keyset Group Buy [ALL SHIPPED >> REFUND ISSUE]

[Blackehart]

I WANTS MAH PURPLE!!

Added an order of Granite to help out 

[Razor Lotus]

Still another 11 days till the GB closes.

I kinda doubt we can hit the 300 moq for the add on

[minho]

Still another 11 days till the GB closes.

I kinda doubt we can hit the 300 moq for the add on

Or any of the sets besides Dolch... ): I thought this would have a much better turnout.

[swornxin]

Still another 11 days till the GB closes.

I kinda doubt we can hit the 300 moq for the add on

Or any of the sets besides Dolch... ): I thought this would have a much better turnout.

But if we hit 100 and they have them in stock we're still good.

[Hak Foo]

I'm very confused.  A Geekhack that isn't all over anything remotely Dolchy is not the Geekhack I grew up in.

[rowdy]

I'm very confused.  A Geekhack that isn't all over anything remotely Dolchy is not the Geekhack I grew up in.

OEM profile putting some people off, maybe?

You know what Cherry profile does to people )

[GhostofHarry]

i could foresee and had talked about this in the IC

the orders of last taihao was backed up by a few batch purchase from vendors
and we have none of them this time

i think the ANSI pack will not be a problem
but add-on pack may not work haha..

i may add another month before the deadline maybe...
or I would just let ppl to revise all their orders and allow only ANSI pack

[minho]

i could foresee and had talked about this in the IC

the orders of last taihao was backed up by a few batch purchase from vendors
and we have none of them this time

i think the ANSI pack will not be a problem
but add-on pack may not work haha..

i may add another month before the deadline maybe...
or I would just let ppl to revise all their orders and allow only ANSI pack

As much as I want an Add-On pack, paying $13.50 for three sets is beyond what I want (one or two sets maybe, but three is pushing my budget a bit).

[Hak Foo]

I'm very surprised that there isn't vendor uptake.  The business plan is pretty obvious.  Whenever a GB ends and people show off their results, it's inevitably followed with "I wish I could get them..."  The vendors can then swoop in, mark up the sets fifty percent (it's still cheap at that price) and sell at a nice profit.

[minho]

I'm very surprised that there isn't vendor uptake.  The business plan is pretty obvious.  Whenever a GB ends and people show off their results, it's inevitably followed with "I wish I could get them..."  The vendors can then swoop in, mark up the sets fifty percent (it's still cheap at that price) and sell at a nice profit.

Sounds like there's a role for me to fill  )

I wish though don't start summer job until too late for this group buy 

[lightsout714]

I'm very confused.  A Geekhack that isn't all over anything remotely Dolchy is not the Geekhack I grew up in.

I know these are cheap. But with Ivan about to start his gmk group buy I think others are going over there. Who knows.

[tbc]

I'm very surprised that there isn't vendor uptake.  The business plan is pretty obvious.  Whenever a GB ends and people show off their results, it's inevitably followed with "I wish I could get them..."  The vendors can then swoop in, mark up the sets fifty percent (it's still cheap at that price) and sell at a nice profit.

the problem with that is the conversion rate for some 'WTB things' is REALLY bad.  also, people can almost always get a cheaper price in classifieds from people who bought extras for selling them off.

basically, market is likely overestimated + there are MANY vendors outside of the official ones.

[Harrowed]

i may add another month before the deadline maybe...
or I would just let ppl to revise all their orders and allow only ANSI pack

I wouldn't mind if the dl would be pushed a month or two but ANSI only...  Unfortunately I think I had to revise my order to non-existent  Hard to say how those measures would work for total.

Shipping costs are good and the price is good but people are holding back. OP might be little complicated, does that make people shun? Or is it just bad time or the shipping location outside the conus? Red Scarf II will hopefully be bigger success - it might be something that has the demand.

[slinky23]

Ordered! How come there are some already being sold on TaoBao?

[Razor Lotus]

Ordered! How come there are some already being sold on TaoBao?

If i'm not wrong the taobao ones are preorder for this too.

And I remember someone saying china had a dolch groupbuy not too long ago. Maybe taobao is selling those.

It's quite unfortunate cause I thought there was a good response from the IC

[feizor]

i could foresee and had talked about this in the IC

the orders of last taihao was backed up by a few batch purchase from vendors
and we have none of them this time

i think the ANSI pack will not be a problem
but add-on pack may not work haha..

i may add another month before the deadline maybe...
or I would just let ppl to revise all their orders and allow only ANSI pack

As much as I want an Add-On pack, paying $13.50 for three sets is beyond what I want (one or two sets maybe, but three is pushing my budget a bit).

Yep I think 13.5 is too much for an add on kit, if it comes to it, I'd rather get another ansi set for $1.5 more.

[GhostofHarry]

im gonna add some vendor orders from china tmr
(cuz im really tired after exams and need prepare for the last one tmr of this semester and i couldnt confirm with them at this time)

so basically the BOTTOM LINE moq is met
and i hope this attracts more order

but i really hope that vendors in europe or america may consider this

i know it may not be good to spread this thinking about earning money from the community
but its kind of a good deal if this helps the 100+ ppl that has placed their orders

edit:
maybe its not a good timing to open this gb
a clash with many keycaps gb like dsa dolch and those gmk and bsp orders from others

but for vendors this really worth a go if they are considering a long term sale
(not to mention there are little vendors in euro/murica selling these stuffs)
its a good choice for new comers to mod their keyboard,
before they notice the beauty of cherry profile and are willing to pay a price of a keyboard for them!

[muad]

Will the stepped caps lock be center stemmed or offset?

[bazemk1979]

Will the stepped caps lock be center stemmed or offset?

would only make sense if its off center for cherry/Korean boards, that's why there is full touch capslock for standard mainstream boards

[minho]

Will the stepped caps lock be center stemmed or offset?

would only make sense if its off center for cherry/Korean boards, that's why there is full touch capslock for standard mainstream boards

While this makes sense, I seem to recall from somewhere (don't remember where) that it is center stemmed... you'll want to check with Henry on this to make sure.

[muad]

I'm hoping that it is center stemmed. It's really difficult to find stepped center stemmed capslock keycaps anywhere.

[Signature]

Why can't you use the regular caps lock key?

[feizor]

Why can't you use the regular caps lock key?

Stepped is retro and is harder to accidentally hit. That's my understanding anyway, I prefer normal.

[bazemk1979]

if the stepped capslock is center stemmed then the Tsangan kit that's in the add on makes no sense at all to have..... I ordered  1 of each full sets and add ons, but the way I see this goes that add on might not make it, then Capslock might be center stemmed..... Looks to me that I'll be dropping off, if I cant have complete set to use with standard and Korean board, then there is no worth ordering at all.

Elton almost had it right with his GB, the only thing he was missing was the off center stepped CapsLock and the x7 spacebars stems were not properly aligned for Cherry/Korean board. If this GB do not have off center CL, or add ons don't make I'll just wait till one day someone organizes proper GB with all keys included.

Question to OP:

1. Stepped CapsLock is off center or centered?
2. I understand that add on has the 1.5 mods, but does it have the x1 2 keys also for cheat layout? I saw it says 2 keys x1, just hoping they are R4 to go in between the 1.5 mods?

[minho]

if the stepped capslock is center stemmed then the Tsangan kit that's in the add on makes no sense at all to have..... I ordered  1 of each full sets and add ons, but the way I see this goes that add on might not make it, then Capslock might be center stemmed..... Looks to me that I'll be dropping off, if I cant have complete set to use with standard and Korean board, then there is no worth ordering at all.

Elton almost had it right with his GB, the only thing he was missing was the off center stepped CapsLock and the x7 spacebars stems were not properly aligned for Cherry/Korean board. If this GB do not have off center CL, or add ons don't make I'll just wait till one day someone organizes proper GB with all keys included.

Question to OP:

1. Stepped CapsLock is off center or centered?
2. I understand that add on has the 1.5 mods, but does it have the x1 2 keys also for cheat layout? I saw it says 2 keys x1, just hoping they are R4 to go in between the 1.5 mods?

Elton and Harry both are ordering from the same manufacturer, who likely does not have the correct molds. It might be quite a while before you find doubleshot sets at this price (or similar prices) for a Korean keyboard with offcenter caps lock.

[Fire Brand]

Just as a question as I have never needed to until now, would the add on pack which includes the right 1.75 shift also include the 1x1 fn for the KBT Pure layout? Also is the buy completely ending on the 31st or just this stage as I would like to order, but also like items within the stage 2, and finally if I was to order would I need to pay stage by stage or is it once everything is done, thanks sorry if its already been answered I had a very quick look but didn't see anything :x

[GhostofHarry]

1) it's an off centre caps lock.  Cherry ones.   Make no sense for a centred stem stepped capslock for oem caps
2) it includes 2 1x r1 caps that suits the cheat board, just pick up the add on pack
3) taihao had they 7x space stem problem fixed last Korean gb, as Elton had mentioned
4) EVERYTHING SHOULD be ending on 31st. It's probably not moving onto the next stage unless the MOQ of stage one suddenly met...but the deadline was set by me so if more time is needed we keep this gb for a longer time


Hopefully I did not missed any question

[skuko]

i ordered the massdrop set just to test the material and profile of these caps. currently on stock filco caps, will directly compare the profile.

[MinJae Kim]

i want order to stage2 and stage2 add on pack!!!

is possible??

[minho]

i want order to stage2 and stage2 add on pack!!!

is possible??

It seems like there is a pretty good chance we won't reach stage 2, AMD even if we do, it seems like we will have a hard time hitting MOQ for it.

[Razor Lotus]

i want order to stage2 and stage2 add on pack!!!

is possible??

It seems like there is a pretty good chance we won't reach stage 2, AMD even if we do, it seems like we will have a hard time hitting MOQ for it.

I agree. This was supposed to be the stage with the highest interest and yet it doesn't seem to be moving anywhere past the first tier so I'm not sure if opening the other stages would help or reach MOQ fast enough

[bazemk1979]

1) it's an off centre caps lock.  Cherry ones.   Make no sense for a centred stem stepped capslock for oem caps
2) it includes 2 1x r1 caps that suits the cheat board, just pick up the add on pack
3) taihao had they 7x space stem problem fixed last Korean gb, as Elton had mentioned
4) EVERYTHING SHOULD be ending on 31st. It's probably not moving onto the next stage unless the MOQ of stage one suddenly met...but the deadline was set by me so if more time is needed we keep this gb for a longer time


Hopefully I did not missed any question

great its just what I wanted to hear, please let this GB run longer would be nice to reach MOQ for both the full sets and add ons.

Hopefully next GB for the 3rd gen you will bundle them together the full sets with the add ons.

[rowdy]

FWIW there are a couple of factors that might be influencing peoples' decisions.

Ivan is on the verge of a GMK Dolch GB.

Matt's DSA Granite (nearly 400 orders) might be impacting on the Tai Hao Granite set.

There's still another week or so to go, and there are a lot of people who usually sit on the fence until the last moment.

[Harrowed]

Ivan is on the verge of a GMK Dolch GB.

Ivan has already started the GB on deskthority

[rowdy]

Ivan is on the verge of a GMK Dolch GB.

Ivan has already started the GB on deskthority

[Elrick]

Ivan is on the verge of a GMK Dolch GB.

Ivan has already started the GB on deskthority

 

Ivan's is totally different to this one. First off his is made at GMK with a traditional Cherry Profile and the prices show how much that type of authenticity shall cost you.

This one is done in OEM profile with the prices to match.  In fact I like this one due to the very low prices and how many you could buy to fill many more keyboards  .

[tbc]

dolch is a REALLY easy set to get now.  3 profiles lol.

[minho]

Ivan is on the verge of a GMK Dolch GB.

Ivan has already started the GB on deskthority

 

Ivan's is totally different to this one. First off his is made at GMK with a traditional Cherry Profile and the prices show how much that type of authenticity shall cost you.

This one is done in OEM profile with the prices to match.  In fact I like this one due to the very low prices and how many you could buy to fill many more keyboards  .

This. I'm buying multiple of this set to fill any keyboards I don't have a specific set I desire, and I'm buying Ivan's legit ones for a nice custom kebyoard that I plan on building later.

[Elrick]

This. I'm buying multiple of this set to fill any keyboards I don't have a specific set I desire, and I'm buying Ivan's legit ones for a nice custom kebyoard that I plan on building later.

Now you're thinking like a true addict  .  Never buy just one set for only one keyboard, buy many to fill all your keyboards whether they be cheapies or extravagant luxuries.

Everything is catered for here on Geekhack.

[niklfc83]

Ordered dolch + add on pack.  This is my first post and group buy, hope it hits MOQ 

Thanks

[Razor Lotus]

Ivan's is totally different to this one. First off his is made at GMK with a traditional Cherry Profile and the prices show how much that type of authenticity shall cost you.

This one is done in OEM profile with the prices to match.  In fact I like this one due to the very low prices and how many you could buy to fill many more keyboards  .

I like this

[sonic_the_hedgehog]

Okay, I'm just about to order, but I've got a couple of questions:

1) Might have already been answered, but is the off-centre stemmed caps lock also stepped?
2) To clarify, if we don't order the add-on pack, each base set will come with the horrid-looking windows key, not a blank key? (Basically, if I'm going to have to order add-on packs to avoid using that horrid windows key, I'll have to order less base sets to even out the price)
3) Do the sets from Stage 2 also have both centre stemmed and off-centre stemmed caps locks?
3a) If they do come with both, any chance you can get me just one apple green set at retail (Tao Bao) price? As it doesn't look like we will be doing gb for apple green at all 
4) Is there any way to get a large number of blank 1x caps from Tai Hao? I have a few of these G80-8200LPAUS boards (pic below) and they have a lot more than 104 keys  )



Thanks 

[wc0517]

Red On White looks nice!!!

[Zwi]

Ordered!

[CommonCurt]

Doesn't look like Olivetti is going to make moq 

That is the only one out of this round I was interested in.

[Pacifist]

Doesn't look like Olivetti is going to make moq 

That is the only one out of this round I was interested in.

[feizor]

Doesn't look like Olivetti is going to make moq 

That is the only one out of this round I was interested in.

The base set might make moq, probably not the addon.

[sonic_the_hedgehog]

Doesn't look like Olivetti is going to make moq 

That is the only one out of this round I was interested in.

The base set might make moq, probably not the addon.

I will be ordering olivetti for sure once my questions above have been answered 

I am still in disbelief at the current order quantities. I realise Ivan has the other GB going on but:
1) These are still insanely cheap.
2) So many people ordered in the first GB with Elton.
3) So many people missed out in the first round and were really upset - now's your chance!!
4) The colour options are better than the first round.
5) These sets are so much more flexible, given the availability of both kinds of caps lock and the add-on packs.

WHY ARE THERE NOT LIKE 1000+ ORDERS FOR EACH!?     

[Pacifist]

Doesn't look like Olivetti is going to make moq 

That is the only one out of this round I was interested in.

The base set might make moq, probably not the addon.

I will be ordering olivetti for sure once my questions above have been answered 

I am still in disbelief at the current order quantities. I realise Ivan has the other GB going on but:
1) These are still insanely cheap.
2) So many people ordered in the first GB with Elton.
3) So many people missed out in the first round and were really upset - now's your chance!!
4) The colour options are better than the first round.
5) These sets are so much more flexible, given the availability of both kinds of caps lock and the add-on packs.

WHY ARE THERE NOT LIKE 1000+ ORDERS FOR EACH!?     

this is how GBs usually work
First 3 days: massive ordering
in the middle: a few orders a day, nothing much
Last week: lots of ordering

first run with elton had keypop buying a bunch, which helped MOQ

but seriously, you can sell these easy and get all your money back, so there;s no reason not to order some more

[GhostofHarry]

Okay, I'm just about to order, but I've got a couple of questions:

1) Might have already been answered, but is the off-centre stemmed caps lock also stepped?
2) To clarify, if we don't order the add-on pack, each base set will come with the horrid-looking windows key, not a blank key? (Basically, if I'm going to have to order add-on packs to avoid using that horrid windows key, I'll have to order less base sets to even out the price)
3) Do the sets from Stage 2 also have both centre stemmed and off-centre stemmed caps locks?
3a) If they do come with both, any chance you can get me just one apple green set at retail (Tao Bao) price? As it doesn't look like we will be doing gb for apple green at all 
4) Is there any way to get a large number of blank 1x caps from Tai Hao? I have a few of these G80-8200LPAUS boards (pic below) and they have a lot more than 104 keys  )

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Thanks  :thumb:

1) off- centered
2) yes   get add-on pack if u want a blank winkey
3) this depends on the order   we need at least 300 for stepped capslock for generation 1-3
4) yes, but we better focus on our sets at the moment        i dont think offering new options at this stage is wise enough