Author Topic: [PO] R5 Zealios / Zealencios / Transparent Screw-in Stabs / Zeal60 Rev2 (Read 109500 times)

Zeal · « **on:** Sun, 29 January 2017, 22:19:18 »

Hey guys, as promised, here's the R5 Zealio GB & Zeal60 Rev2 PCBs! This time the PCB isn't limited to 100x units.

GB pricing will end Feb 26, 2017. Order is expected to ship from Gateron sometime mid-late March. Depending on Zeal60 order volume, it may ship sometime mid-March.

Click the images for links to the site!

R5 Zealio Switches:

Zeal60 Rev2 RGB LED PCB:
Everything factory pre-soldered & made in USA. Users only need to bridge a few jumpers and solder switches. Soldermask will be a "dark purple" shade.

Zeal Transparent Stabilizers:

Zealencio Silencing Clips:

Cheers,

Zeal

Zeal · « **Reply #1 on:** Mon, 30 January 2017, 20:09:06 »

April 27:
GB orders have completed shipping.

April 28:
Large majority of Zeal60s are being remade by the fab. Currently waiting to hear back on an exact date, but I'm expecting late may to mid June for the replacements.

ReadmeDotTxt · « **Reply #2 on:** Tue, 31 January 2017, 03:53:54 »

I'm in for some switches!

pomk · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed, 01 February 2017, 03:08:58 »

I noticed that the first batch of zeal60's were made by pcbway. Any reason for switching the manufacturer?

Zeal · « **Reply #4 on:** Wed, 01 February 2017, 09:46:50 »

Quote from: pomk on Wed, 01 February 2017, 03:08:58

I noticed that the first batch of zeal60's were made by pcbway. Any reason for switching the manufacturer?

Manufacturer did not change. It wasn't produced by pcbway.

pomk · « **Reply #5 on:** Wed, 01 February 2017, 12:58:08 »

Quote from: Zeal on Wed, 01 February 2017, 09:46:50

Quote from: pomk on Wed, 01 February 2017, 03:08:58
I noticed that the first batch of zeal60's were made by pcbway. Any reason for switching the manufacturer?

Manufacturer did not change. It wasn't produced by pcbway.

Oh, sorry for the confusion. They just have your boards on their site for a soldermask color example picture.

Zeal · « **Reply #6 on:** Wed, 01 February 2017, 15:48:13 »

Quote from: pomk on Wed, 01 February 2017, 12:58:08

Quote from: Zeal on Wed, 01 February 2017, 09:46:50
Quote from: pomk on Wed, 01 February 2017, 03:08:58
I noticed that the first batch of zeal60's were made by pcbway. Any reason for switching the manufacturer?

Manufacturer did not change. It wasn't produced by pcbway.
Oh, sorry for the confusion. They just have your boards on their site for a soldermask color example picture.

That was one of the early Rev 0 prototypes during testing phase. You can see the 60 didn't come out properly...

pomk · « **Reply #7 on:** Wed, 01 February 2017, 16:09:22 »

Thanks for the info! I have been using them and was just wondering if there was something off about that firm.

Wilba · « **Reply #8 on:** Wed, 01 February 2017, 16:59:06 »

Quote from: pomk on Wed, 01 February 2017, 16:09:22

Thanks for the info! I have been using them and was just wondering if there was something off about that firm.

While good, fast and cheap is technically impossible, PCBWay come close. They are definitely fast and cheap, and the quality is good, with only the occasional mistake during production, but they certainly don't offer free replacements. With prices that cheap, I don't blame them. FWIW I only use them for prototype PCBs and never ordered more than 10 - don't consider this an endorsement for anything else.

jrmobley · « **Reply #9 on:** Wed, 01 February 2017, 17:04:52 »

The Zealencio page says,

Quote

Both bottom out and up stroke sounds are dampened while using Cherry profile keycaps. OEM/DSA/DCS/SA caps have the upstroke silenced only.

Why is that? And do you happen to know if XDA profile caps would be silenced on the downstroke?

-JR

Zeal · « **Reply #10 on:** Wed, 01 February 2017, 20:31:10 »

Quote from: jrmobley on Wed, 01 February 2017, 17:04:52

The Zealencio page says,

Quote
Both bottom out and up stroke sounds are dampened while using Cherry profile keycaps. OEM/DSA/DCS/SA caps have the upstroke silenced only.

Why is that? And do you happen to know if XDA profile caps would be silenced on the downstroke?

-JR

Part of the Zealencio's function rely on the keycaps to have a cross support for the keycap stem. Cherry profile (and apparently SP's G20) have the proper "height" crosses that touch the Zealencio clips before the stem on the inside bottoms out. OEM is hit and miss, due to the height of the caps and various manufacturers. XDA appears to look just like DSA without any internal hatch/support, so the bottom of the keycap wouldn't touch the Zealencio clip during bottom out.

As for the upstroke, the rubber area around the clip touches the stem just ever so slightly before it "tops out" fully. This is why it silences the up stroke so well.

ddot · « **Reply #11 on:** Thu, 02 February 2017, 18:08:37 »

What's the compatibility of Zealencios and costar stabs?

Zeal · « **Reply #12 on:** Thu, 02 February 2017, 20:19:21 »

Quote from: ddot on Thu, 02 February 2017, 18:08:37

What's the compatibility of Zealencios and costar stabs?

Requires trimming of an edge from the clip to provide clearance for the costar wire. Does not affect the integrity or the silencing though.

ddot · « **Reply #13 on:** Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:08:33 »

Quote from: Zeal on Thu, 02 February 2017, 20:19:21

Quote from: ddot on Thu, 02 February 2017, 18:08:37
What's the compatibility of Zealencios and costar stabs?
Requires trimming of an edge from the clip to provide clearance for the costar wire. Does not affect the integrity or the silencing though.

Any plans for future revisions to the Zealencios so they'll work unmodded?

Zeal · « **Reply #14 on:** Fri, 03 February 2017, 12:50:12 »

Quote from: ddot on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:08:33

Quote from: Zeal on Thu, 02 February 2017, 20:19:21
Quote from: ddot on Thu, 02 February 2017, 18:08:37
What's the compatibility of Zealencios and costar stabs?
Requires trimming of an edge from the clip to provide clearance for the costar wire. Does not affect the integrity or the silencing though.

Any plans for future revisions to the Zealencios so they'll work unmodded?

Currently no plans, sorry. Costar stabilizers have too many variants with no standardization. Certain boards also don't rotate the switch for vertically stabilized keys / iso enter, which would mean the bar would end up where the retention clips are.

Owl- · « **Reply #15 on:** Sun, 05 February 2017, 09:56:22 »

Has there been any changes/improvements to the switches this round?

Zeal · « **Reply #16 on:** Sun, 05 February 2017, 16:20:52 »

Quote from: Owl- on Sun, 05 February 2017, 09:56:22

Has there been any changes/improvements to the switches this round?

No changes. Happy with the revisions from R4 onward.

richard912 · « **Reply #17 on:** Sun, 05 February 2017, 21:43:23 »

Will the Zealencio Silencing Clips work if LEDs are present?

Zeal · « **Reply #18 on:** Mon, 06 February 2017, 14:06:40 »

Quote from: richard912 on Sun, 05 February 2017, 21:43:23

Will the Zealencio Silencing Clips work if LEDs are present?

Yep, there are slots in the clip to allow for clearance for the LEDs.

KatzenKinder · « **Reply #19 on:** Wed, 08 February 2017, 14:24:58 »

Mmm... okay I will pick up many this time no regret : )

Zeal · « **Reply #20 on:** Sat, 18 February 2017, 00:01:29 »

Friendly reminder that GB pricing will end in roughly a week.

+bump, can we implement the new GB section rules now? This just proves how dead vendor forums are.

stoic-lemon · « **Reply #21 on:** Sat, 18 February 2017, 09:40:07 »

Yeah I was trying to figure out why this is still on only one page.

smittysteve · « **Reply #22 on:** Sat, 18 February 2017, 10:08:24 »

Quote from: Zeal on Sat, 18 February 2017, 00:01:29

Friendly reminder that GB pricing will end in roughly a week.

+bump, can we implement the new GB section rules now? This just proves how dead vendor forums are.

Agreed!! I really miss seeing the Vendor GB threads out in the sections I'm looking at more regularly. Always forget/ ADD out before clicking through to here.

For my money, vendor threads are cool for vendor things and general topics, but when there's an active GB going, let it be out in GB section.

xondat · « **Reply #23 on:** Sat, 18 February 2017, 10:10:53 »

So what I've learnt is don't get too popular because you're GBs get hidden!

smittysteve · « **Reply #24 on:** Sat, 18 February 2017, 10:12:08 »

Quote from: xondat on Sat, 18 February 2017, 10:10:53

So what I've learnt is don't get too popular because you're GBs get hidden!

Exactly!!

Zeal · « **Reply #25 on:** Wed, 22 February 2017, 12:56:51 »

Order with Gateron has been placed. ETA 15-20 business days.

mniels · « **Reply #26 on:** Wed, 22 February 2017, 14:03:43 »

Is ETA on the PCBs still April-May?

Zeal · « **Reply #27 on:** Wed, 22 February 2017, 14:12:28 »

Quote from: mniels on Wed, 22 February 2017, 14:03:43

Is ETA on the PCBs still April-May?

Goal for that is late March / early April.

Latin00032 · « **Reply #28 on:** Wed, 22 February 2017, 17:38:56 »

Are the zealio pcb stabilizers also compatible with plates?

I'm a newb trying to build my first board.

Zeal · « **Reply #29 on:** Wed, 22 February 2017, 19:15:09 »

Quote from: Latin00032 on Wed, 22 February 2017, 17:38:56

Are the zealio pcb stabilizers also compatible with plates?

I'm a newb trying to build my first board.

Nearly every custom keyboard uses PCB mounted stabilizers. Very few actually use plate mounted ones. Almost all OEMs use plate mounted stabs / costar.

So chances are your plate has a cutout for PCB mounted stabilizers.

mniels · « **Reply #30 on:** Thu, 23 February 2017, 10:11:52 »

@Zeal If I place an order from the site that includes in stock as well as GB items (LEDs in this case,) will the in stock ship sooner or should I place two separate orders?

Thanks!

Zeal · « **Reply #31 on:** Thu, 23 February 2017, 23:37:47 »

Quote from: mniels on Thu, 23 February 2017, 10:11:52

@Zeal If I place an order from the site that includes in stock as well as GB items (LEDs in this case,) will the in stock ship sooner or should I place two separate orders?

Thanks!

If you combined in stock with GB items (PCB, Switches), they would ship together at a later date. If you wanted LEDs sooner, best to place the order separately.

pomk · « **Reply #32 on:** Fri, 24 February 2017, 05:20:04 »

Quote from: Wilba on Wed, 01 February 2017, 16:59:06

Quote from: pomk on Wed, 01 February 2017, 16:09:22
Thanks for the info! I have been using them and was just wondering if there was something off about that firm.

While good, fast and cheap is technically impossible, PCBWay come close. They are definitely fast and cheap, and the quality is good, with only the occasional mistake during production, but they certainly don't offer free replacements. With prices that cheap, I don't blame them. FWIW I only use them for prototype PCBs and never ordered more than 10 - don't consider this an endorsement for anything else.

My PCBs came in some time ago, great quality and one silly mistake by me which some professional service would have caught.

I need to start reviewing my boards on some other people before ordering.

)

Btw, did you do any other changes to the zeal60 rev2 besides changing some capacitor values?

Wilba · « **Reply #33 on:** Fri, 24 February 2017, 06:22:20 »

Quote from: pomk on Fri, 24 February 2017, 05:20:04

Btw, did you do any other changes to the zeal60 rev2 besides changing some capacitor values?

I lengthened the mount hole slots on the left and right sides so it fits some cases like the Sentraq which have standoffs 1mm or so further in from where they are on a TEX case, for example.

ChitownM2 · « **Reply #34 on:** Sat, 25 February 2017, 17:36:05 »

Almost forgot to get my order in...

FoC_Tow · « **Reply #35 on:** Sat, 25 February 2017, 21:35:12 »

Tried to order last min and got 'shipping is not available to this destination' O=

Shot you a PM Zeal

Zeal · « **Reply #36 on:** Sat, 25 February 2017, 21:54:17 »

Fixed.

breusch91 · « **Reply #37 on:** Sun, 26 February 2017, 16:50:05 »

Zeal just ordered two packs of stabs for CONUS. Was surprised to see my shipping price start at $15 with the only choices being DHL 1 Day delivery , 1 day before 12pm, and 1 day before 10:30am. Why no regular shipping?

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xondat · « **Reply #38 on:** Sun, 26 February 2017, 17:03:04 »

Quote from: breusch91 on Sun, 26 February 2017, 16:50:05

Zeal just ordered two packs of stabs for CONUS. Was surprised to see my shipping price start at $15 with the only choices being DHL 1 Day delivery , 1 day before 12pm, and 1 day before 10:30am. Why no regular shipping?

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From my experience, Canada Post is **** and takes forever. I think some artisans took 3-4 weeks and it cost $10. Even if CP was $5, DHL is going to be so much better.

breusch91 · « **Reply #39 on:** Sun, 26 February 2017, 17:04:04 »

Quote from: xondat on Sun, 26 February 2017, 17:03:04

Quote from: breusch91 on Sun, 26 February 2017, 16:50:05
Zeal just ordered two packs of stabs for CONUS. Was surprised to see my shipping price start at $15 with the only choices being DHL 1 Day delivery , 1 day before 12pm, and 1 day before 10:30am. Why no regular shipping?

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From my experience, Canada Post is **** and takes forever. I think some artisans took 3-4 weeks and it cost $10. Even if CP was $5, DHL is going to be so much better.

Ah for some reason I thought he was CONUS. $15 isn't bad then for international 1 day

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Zeal · « **Reply #40 on:** Mon, 13 March 2017, 23:17:45 »

Gateron shipment is being shipped today, should receive in about 2-3 biz days if no delays.

TheNamesTy45 · « **Reply #41 on:** Wed, 15 March 2017, 20:08:31 »

Quote from: Zeal on Mon, 13 March 2017, 23:17:45

Gateron shipment is being shipped today, should receive in about 2-3 biz days if no delays.

Super pumped!! Can barely wait until the box arrives with my zeal60, stabs, and zealios!!

Sissy · « **Reply #42 on:** Thu, 16 March 2017, 07:53:31 »

Awesome, cheers for the update

lunr · « **Reply #43 on:** Fri, 17 March 2017, 18:57:36 »

Seems like orders are getting shipped. Mine just got shipped out today. Yay!

TheNamesTy45 · « **Reply #44 on:** Sun, 19 March 2017, 11:36:40 »

Quote from: lunr on Fri, 17 March 2017, 18:57:36

Seems like orders are getting shipped. Mine just got shipped out today. Yay!

That's exciting! Did you order switches or PCB?

Zeal · « **Reply #45 on:** Mon, 20 March 2017, 14:31:13 »

Quick update:

Orders containing switches/zealencios/stabs are shipping now.

Small issue: GH lube is running low, been waiting for the restock to come in. Should be sent out next week. If I run out of lube vials while packing, orders with lube will be held until shipment comes in next week.
Small issue2: Gateron accidentally produced 65g Plate mount Zealios with PCB mount legs. They are currently reproducing them and will be sending out a replacement in about 10-15 days. If your order contains "65g plate mount Zealios (Milky bottom clear top)" and wouldn't mind having PCB mount variants, let me know by replying to your email confirmation. Otherwise, orders containing those switches will be held until the correct switches arrive.

Zeal60 PCBs are still under production. Expected to complete and ship around early April.

johnthedong · « **Reply #46 on:** Mon, 20 March 2017, 18:26:22 »

Just ordered some sip sockets and 70 r5 switches.

I'm wondering if I could add in an order of 70 warm white LED's to my order? Just realized that literally moments after I sent in the order.

I_need_a_bath · « **Reply #47 on:** Mon, 20 March 2017, 18:59:58 »

Quote from: Zeal on Mon, 20 March 2017, 14:31:13

Quick update:

Orders containing switches/zealencios/stabs are shipping now.

Small issue: GH lube is running low, been waiting for the restock to come in. Should be sent out next week. If I run out of lube vials while packing, orders with lube will be held until shipment comes in next week.
Small issue2: Gateron accidentally produced 65g Plate mount Zealios with PCB mount legs. They are currently reproducing them and will be sending out a replacement in about 10-15 days. If your order contains "65g plate mount Zealios (Milky bottom clear top)" and wouldn't mind having PCB mount variants, let me know by replying to your email confirmation. Otherwise, orders containing those switches will be held until the correct switches arrive.

Zeal60 PCBs are still under production. Expected to complete and ship around early April.

Can't wait, my tx-87 is sitting naked on my desk waiting for my switches!

jKaw · « **Reply #48 on:** Mon, 20 March 2017, 20:53:12 »

Can't wait to receive it tomorrow! I ordered lube/stabs and 78gs

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johnthedong · « **Reply #49 on:** Tue, 21 March 2017, 10:18:08 »

Quote from: johnthedong on Mon, 20 March 2017, 18:26:22

Just ordered some sip sockets and 70 r5 switches.
I'm wondering if I could add in an order of 70 warm white LED's to my order? Just realized that literally moments after I sent in the order.

PS: Henry sorted me out, thanks!! Can't wait to get everything now!

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