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Title: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 20 March 2021, 20:57:12
ya'll see dat new  Justice League (2017) cut ?

4:3 aspect ratio, classy.

Tp4 felt it made alot more sense, while Whed cut was very messy and you weren't sure why everything was happening.

Thoughts ?

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Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 20 March 2021, 21:24:18
I'm one of the few who actually didn't mind the 1st JL, I thought it was better than both WW and AM.

But I also like BvS as a background movie to just leave on while doing stuff, it's bad enough to be entertaining and the action scenes are still fun to watch.

This new one looks to be a huge timesink which is an immediate turn-off.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: Leslieann on Sat, 20 March 2021, 23:03:11
More re-cuts please!
Seriously, just oversaturate the hell out of the already heavily oversaturated superhero movie genre so it can die and we can move beyond it. Just beat it into the ground like westerns so we can spare the next few generations from it as well.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 March 2021, 08:48:06
Overall, snyder's only good film ever is 300,  he's really in the same 1 hit category as shaymalan.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: dgneo on Sun, 21 March 2021, 09:01:33
enjoyed it myself - didn't care to see the original after synder had to leave, so i can't really compare. snyder loves his slow-mo shots a bit too much, but otherwise i thought the film was incredibly well done. the 4:3 bothered me for about 5 minutes before i forgot about it.

don't really see why people are complaining about the run time when binging a show for x hours at a clip is completely 'normal'. the movie itself is split into parts, just stop at a part and continue later.

really hope we get a knightmare movie

Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 March 2021, 10:43:14
This is really why we NEED 8K,  when you take 4:3, square it in 4K, it's only 2880x2160, 6 Megapixels.

Imax film can easily resolve up to 80 Megapixels.  Overall, 8K and 12K are going to be great.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 21 March 2021, 16:15:12
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 March 2021, 10:43:14
This is really why we NEED 8K,  when you take 4:3, square it in 4K, it's only 2880x2160, 6 Megapixels.

Imax film can easily resolve up to 80 Megapixels.  Overall, 8K and 12K are going to be great.

lol idk one person who even has a 4k tv
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 March 2021, 16:40:12
Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 21 March 2021, 16:15:12
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 March 2021, 10:43:14
This is really why we NEED 8K,  when you take 4:3, square it in 4K, it's only 2880x2160, 6 Megapixels.

Imax film can easily resolve up to 80 Megapixels.  Overall, 8K and 12K are going to be great.

lol idk one person who even has a 4k tv

That's gud, cuz you know Tp4, and he haz 11.

(https://i.imgur.com/IRKuRxo.gif)
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: cthalupa on Sun, 21 March 2021, 21:55:20
I thought it was marginally better than the Whedon cut, but thought both were pretty bad. And if I've gotta sit through two pretty bad things, I'd rather sit through 2 hours instead of 4 hours.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: PadawanGeek on Sun, 21 March 2021, 23:50:01
I have both BvS Ultimate Edition which filled up some plot holes in the original the theatrical version, was puzzled as to why Superman was blamed for the killings when he rescued Lois Lane at the onset of the film, and why the woman who accused him of murder was so vehement, among a couple of the WTF?! head scratchers.

ZS's Cut made more sense than the shoddy work that is Josh Whedon (loved him for Firefly and Buffy) but man, I guess fame does get to one's head. I honestly like Zack Snyder's original interpretation, also, the characters like Cyborg got a little fleshed out with this cut. I have the regular version on 4K BR, looking forward to the 4K BR of Zack's cut.

Edit - I feel the thing that DC fails is this, that there's no continuity. I mean, look at Batman, now Ben Affleck (I've found that I like him as Batman and The Accountant) has been replaced by Chris Pattinson, just when I think most of us are getting to like Ben Affleck in the role. Then, there're rumors of Henry Cavil being replaced by someone else.....what is wrong with DC?

They should hang on to these two for better continuity, of course having Jason Momoa and Gal Gadot help.....but I think it'd be odd to see WW and/or Aquaman working with different Batman and Superman should there be a future JL project. Only way replacing these two actors with others would work is to NOT/NEVER have a JL movie ever again and just focus on individual projects/movies.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: yui on Mon, 22 March 2021, 03:16:34
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 March 2021, 16:40:12
Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 21 March 2021, 16:15:12
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 21 March 2021, 10:43:14
This is really why we NEED 8K,  when you take 4:3, square it in 4K, it's only 2880x2160, 6 Megapixels.

Imax film can easily resolve up to 80 Megapixels.  Overall, 8K and 12K are going to be great.

lol idk one person who even has a 4k tv

That's gud, cuz you know Tp4, and he haz 11.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/IRKuRxo.gif)

how and why? how can you afford and use 11 tvs and why do you buy only 4k, if it is a very large TV (for me very large means above 100cm) that you will watch from rather close i really do not see a point, at one point i had an old 1080p 80cm that i watched from a comfortable distance (about 3m) and reading the text was rather hard so 4k i can't imagine.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 March 2021, 08:20:39
Quote from: yui on Mon, 22 March 2021, 03:16:34
how and why? how can you afford and use 11 tvs and why do you buy only 4k, if it is a very large TV (for me very large means above 100cm) that you will watch from rather close i really do not see a point, at one point i had an old 1080p 80cm that i watched from a comfortable distance (about 3m) and reading the text was rather hard so 4k i can't imagine.

Tp4 were xaggerating, he actually only owns 8x 4K tvs.

They replace monitors, they're not really TV-TVs.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: Darthbaggins on Mon, 22 March 2021, 08:22:36
I know I have 1 55" LG 4k (not one of the top tier ones, but does enough for me right now).  Then at my in-laws there are 2 more 40-43" 4k Samsungs - as I don't watch alot of tv but mainly watch on my 27" 1440p panel at my desk when I'm at home.  I tend to watch more streaming media on my phone (Galaxy s7) which has a 1440p AMOLED screen since it's my best option when I'm at work the majority of that time.

I will eventually replace my home monitor to a 4k panel once I update my 1080ti, need consistent 100+ frames in games I play - so far it has been great at 1440p but I do want that awe inspiring 4k goodness.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 March 2021, 08:22:50
Quote from: PadawanGeek on Sun, 21 March 2021, 23:50:01
.....what is wrong with DC?

It's the parent company, they don't have any fans in charge, it's just the money people. They probably just want quick bucks, and it never grows into anything.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 March 2021, 08:49:07
Quote from: Darthbaggins on Mon, 22 March 2021, 08:22:36
I will eventually replace my home monitor to a 4k panel once I update my 1080ti, need consistent 100+ frames in games I play - so far it has been great at 1440p but I do want that awe inspiring 4k goodness.


Dat LG CX is really gud' for games and movies, if you keep it ~100nits.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: Darthbaggins on Mon, 22 March 2021, 14:54:02
That 48" is tempting with that native 120hz refresh rate, just need to acquire a house so I can finally rebuild my at home office so I can have the room for it - right now I have a very restrictive space that I can't change since it's my mother-in-law's desk originally.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 March 2021, 15:06:51
The C1 , (after CX) is going to be really well priced, $3500 for 77 inch, $6000 for 83 inch.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 22 March 2021, 16:26:33
Forget Marvel and DC, what we need is a Dark Horse Universe
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: Darthbaggins on Mon, 22 March 2021, 20:46:42
I could go for some Dark Horse content, and could use more Image content as it's been a while since we've had something made from Image (in the film/movie space).
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 22 March 2021, 21:32:48
DH is even more messy than DC continuity wise.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: PadawanGeek on Sat, 27 March 2021, 10:50:57
I hear that now, Henry Cavill is out as Superman, and that JJ Abrams' looking at a black actor to replace him in a reboot. Honestly, I have nothing against any race, or gender for the matter, but I can only see Henry Cavill as Superman. All this PC thing going on with DCEU and MCU, from casting Jane Forster as a female Thor, SheHulk, (in essense, women power!) replacing Henry Cavil with a black actor, replacing Ben Affleck as Batman (DCEU is hellbent of rebooting their franchise characters every few years) just because it's the PC or cool thing to do.....might as well go all out and replace Black Panther with White Panther just for the heck of it. Do everything in absolute reverse for Chrissakes!

Anyway, I'm done with DCEU other than Wonder Woman and Aquaman......I'd take a dump on everything else new from DCEU. Despite my bellyaching, I'm looking forward to Dr Strange and the Multiverse of Madness (along with Scarlet Witch) and more from Thor. Think I'm gonna skip Captain Marvel 2, and other new characters, though I'll reserve judgment on the Eternals as it'd be a kick to see Kit Hartington (aka Jon Snow) and Richard Madden (aka Robb Stark) together in a flick.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: Sintpinty on Sat, 27 March 2021, 21:57:27
its better than endgame and i like the 4:3 aspect ratio
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: Darthbaggins on Sun, 28 March 2021, 08:21:31
The 4:3 makes me want to break out one of the Sony tube tv's we have in the garage. .
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 28 March 2021, 08:25:19
Quote from: Darthbaggins on Sun, 28 March 2021, 08:21:31
The 4:3 makes me want to break out one of the Sony tube tv's we have in the garage. .

You gotta do the RGB mod on dat TV's Jungle chip, to get max quality from the vga port on PC.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: Sintpinty on Mon, 29 March 2021, 06:59:23
Quote from: Darthbaggins on Sun, 28 March 2021, 08:21:31
The 4:3 makes me want to break out one of the Sony tube tv's we have in the garage. .

I miss my large rca
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 April 2021, 12:11:24
God damn it, Zack Snyder released an (Imax Restored) cut of his prior BatmanvSuperman:Dawn of Justice.

Now I have to watch this terrible movie, for a SECOND TIME...... It was terrible enough the 1st run

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Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 April 2021, 17:36:03
Ok so, it's definitely upgraded, but there are still alot of 2k blurry looking scenes.

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Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: yui on Thu, 08 April 2021, 02:55:33
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 April 2021, 12:11:24
Now I have to watch this terrible movie, for a SECOND TIME...... It was terrible enough the 1st run[/size][/color]
why do you "have to", are you a film critic? if no i do not think you should torture yourself buying and watching bad films... just saying.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: Sintpinty on Thu, 08 April 2021, 05:03:25
Quote from: yui on Thu, 08 April 2021, 02:55:33
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 April 2021, 12:11:24
Now I have to watch this terrible movie, for a SECOND TIME...... It was terrible enough the 1st run[/size][/color]
Bro humans have free will so you don't necessarily have to
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 08 April 2021, 07:59:00
Quote from: Sintpinty on Thu, 08 April 2021, 05:03:25
Bro humans have free will so you don't necessarily have to

Quote from: yui on Thu, 08 April 2021, 02:55:33
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 April 2021, 12:11:24
Now I have to watch this terrible movie, for a SECOND TIME...... It was terrible enough the 1st run[/size][/color]
why do you "have to", are you a film critic? if no i do not think you should torture yourself buying and watching bad films... just saying.

Hughmhans have free will.
Tp4  does not identify as Hughmahn..
Tp4 follows the will of the Lord Omnitech.

Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: yui on Thu, 08 April 2021, 09:21:21
after veganism TP4 wil want to convert everyone to the church of Omnitech:)
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 08 April 2021, 10:23:23
Quote from: yui on Thu, 08 April 2021, 09:21:21
after veganism TP4 wil want to convert everyone to the church of Omnitech:)

Beyond Burger + Beyond Sasauge BBQ @ church Omnitech

We got Nintendoo64 + CRT  stations and mountain dew code red
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: yui on Fri, 09 April 2021, 02:13:16
after being a chinese gang kingpin tp4 convert to being a cult guru, what a turn of events
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 09 April 2021, 07:42:59
Quote from: yui on Fri, 09 April 2021, 02:13:16
after being a chinese gang kingpin tp4 convert to being a cult guru, what a turn of events

/not a real gangster..  night club cashier/ accountant more like.  They didn't have NE guns @ all. Bouncers yes, but no pewpewpew. 
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: Sintpinty on Sat, 10 April 2021, 21:21:52
Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 08 April 2021, 10:23:23
Quote from: yui on Thu, 08 April 2021, 09:21:21
after veganism TP4 wil want to convert everyone to the church of Omnitech:)

Beyond Burger + Beyond Sasauge BBQ @ church Omnitech

We got Nintendoo64 + CRT  stations and mountain dew code red

Last time i tried that via hello fresh delivery and it tasted like ass.
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 11 April 2021, 21:34:32
Snyder Cut destroys the original...

I don't understand the aspect ratio decision....and there are parts that definitely could be cut from the movie...

But more consistent with what things should have been and the comics...

I think in general, they should've introduced all of the JL characters either in their own solo movie or in other movies first...but they wanted to jump on this whole "Avengers" type movie way too soon...just poor planning...probably too much money motivation. 

But honestly, the problem w/ DC..and it has always been a problem w/ DC...is Superman.  It isn't his characters or the actors or the writers...it is just he's too powerful and he's always been too powerful and you can't have him involved in anything because he's either too strong or everyone else is too weak. 
Title: Re: Snyder vs Whedon Cut ?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 11 April 2021, 22:21:32
Quote from: Polymer on Sun, 11 April 2021, 21:34:32
But honestly, the problem w/ DC..and it has always been a problem w/ DC...is Superman.  It isn't his characters or the actors or the writers...it is just he's too powerful and he's always been too powerful and you can't have him involved in anything because he's either too strong or everyone else is too weak. 

Bring in Goku, balance