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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #200 on: Tue, 12 November 2013, 22:29:56 »
Everything has been affected by the saver frenzy. Even the coriolis effect has been altered.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #201 on: Wed, 13 November 2013, 00:11:01 »
 Explains the dizzy spells I'm having lately... ;D
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #202 on: Wed, 13 November 2013, 02:58:06 »
I would like to know what size of SMD resistor and diode this needs so I can order the proper ones.

Or even just a measuring of the pads (how wide, how close together, etc)

Is the diode size SOD-123 like the ergodox or something else?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #203 on: Wed, 13 November 2013, 03:02:16 »
I was under the impression that diodes will be pre-soldered, like for the Duck v2 kits.  Unsure about resistors.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #204 on: Wed, 13 November 2013, 14:33:34 »
LEDs do come pre soldered, but they are only red :(

No options.  They said you would have to solder it yourself if you want a custom color.

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« Reply #205 on: Wed, 13 November 2013, 14:40:15 »
Boo :(  Could you please find out the specifications for these LEDs?  And also details about any pre-soldered PCB components, as Dorkvader mentioned (SMD diodes being pre-installed or not, and SMD resistors.  And if not, which sizes do we need--like 2012 for resistors.)
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #206 on: Wed, 13 November 2013, 20:17:19 »
LEDs do come pre soldered, but they are only red :(

No options.  They said you would have to solder it yourself if you want a custom color.

I suspected this: it said as much on the kbd4u page, but the size / package of those LED's would be handy for an enterprising solderer like me who will be installing his own.

I also would like to know if the diodes are pre-soldered. If not, me buying 1000 SOT-123 diodes makes more sense; if so, I will only need a few hundred.

I want to prepare ahead of time to get these put together quicker! Thanks for any info you can get me. (I tried to contact the guys on KBD4U through their forum, but I couldn't get the registration form filled out correctly in Korean)

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #207 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 15:35:01 »
Was just on duck's website, and I see the lightsaber PCB is done. It looks like the diodes and resistors are pre-soldered.

Also, check out this layout: mind = blown (again).

http://duck0113.tistory.com/66

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #208 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 15:47:25 »
Yeah, I saw that--pretty cool.  Looked like diodes are soldered on those photos, but resistors are not (except in a few spots).
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #209 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 07:22:07 »
Yeah, I saw that--pretty cool.  Looked like diodes are soldered on those photos, but resistors are not (except in a few spots).

All the resistors look soldered to me

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #210 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 07:34:27 »
Was just on duck's website, and I see the lightsaber PCB is done. It looks like the diodes and resistors are pre-soldered.

Also, check out this layout: mind = blown (again).
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WOW I think I wet my pants a little.....kicking myself for not getting in on this :eek:

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #211 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 12:00:54 »
These resistor locations seem empty to me.  Also some diodes are oriented horizontally on this board (along the bottom row).  I think I was confused, because they are soldered on the other side of the PCB if they are present.  Otherwise, it's just the silver background peeking through.

Ok, I think I'm wrong--after zooming in, especially looking at the bottom of the PCB, there are definitely resistors protruding forward

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #212 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 15:11:38 »
Was just on duck's website, and I see the lightsaber PCB is done. It looks like the diodes and resistors are pre-soldered.

Also, check out this layout: mind = blown (again).
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http://duck0113.tistory.com/66

WOW I think I wet my pants a little.....kicking myself for not getting in on this :eek:
I go on Duck's site again today.

*BOOM* headshot. Mind blown again.

So I heard you like TKL? Done.


This one isn't as nice as the previous, but I think I'll be needing some of those switch blockers regardless.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #213 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 15:35:48 »
I want to know more about those blanks and if they are included!

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #214 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 20:25:13 »
 :-X omg, i want to get one now

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #215 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 20:48:39 »
I want to know more about those blanks and if they are included!

They are not included as far as I know, but I am interested in them as well! He called them "duck key block" on one page, but searching that yields nothing.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #216 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 00:59:12 »
is it possible to still get in on this order?
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #217 on: Wed, 20 November 2013, 15:04:02 »
Been trying to give you money for one of these since before you removed it from the web site. I know you've been busy but please reply to one of my emails or PMs at your convenience.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #218 on: Fri, 22 November 2013, 11:41:12 »
I thought a pseudo-1800-style layout on the right side would be possible, but now that I'm looking at various diagrams carefully, I guess it isn't?  Could anyone please correct me on that?  By that I mean having a 6.25x spacebar followed by 2 1.5x modifiers, followed by 2 1x spaced switches to allow for an arrow cluster to be sandwiched between the mods and the numpad:



But I only see these options explicitly allowed:

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P.S.: Just looked at the PCB--doesn't seem possible :(

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #219 on: Fri, 22 November 2013, 15:45:51 »
Yeah those one unit keys will not work. also 1.5 unit keys in that location are shifted a bit.

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« Reply #220 on: Fri, 22 November 2013, 15:53:24 »
Yeah, it's too bad--would have been maximum efficiency that way.  I plan on rebinding the bottom of the numpad section to a toggleable arrow cluster.  Something like "0", "00", ".", and "2".  Hopefully that's possible.  Arrows normally, numpad when Num Lock is activated.
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« Reply #221 on: Fri, 22 November 2013, 16:43:16 »
I still owe many of you guys a voucher.  I'll get back to you shortly.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #222 on: Sat, 23 November 2013, 11:15:44 »
I thought a pseudo-1800-style layout on the right side would be possible, but now that I'm looking at various diagrams carefully, I guess it isn't?  Could anyone please correct me on that?  By that I mean having a 6.25x spacebar followed by 2 1.5x modifiers, followed by 2 1x spaced switches to allow for an arrow cluster to be sandwiched between the mods and the numpad:

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But I only see these options explicitly allowed:

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P.S.: Just looked at the PCB--doesn't seem possible :(


oh... i was thinking of doing the same thing.
need to find a way to have arrow keys without numlock toggling
will keep a lookout for what others are going to do  :thumb:


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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #223 on: Sat, 23 November 2013, 14:54:19 »
need to find a way to have arrow keys without numlock toggling
will keep a lookout for what others are going to do  :thumb:


I was thinking this:

http://duck0113.tistory.com/66

Also, you can split the right shift, and do it PURE style. I really like that solution as well.

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« Reply #224 on: Sat, 23 November 2013, 15:34:01 »
Yeah, but pure has 1.25x arrow spacing.  In this case, it'd be asymmetrical.  If that's what you meant.  So many options already that it's fine anyway.  Also not sure if we're getting any of those blocking pieces.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #225 on: Sat, 23 November 2013, 16:05:06 »
So are the switch blockers anodized along with the case? Wondering if there might be some off-color issues if otherwise.

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« Reply #226 on: Sat, 23 November 2013, 18:25:17 »
So are the switch blockers anodized along with the case? Wondering if there might be some off-color issues if otherwise.
I dont think they are aprt of this GB.

Additionally I cant find any other info about them.

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« Reply #227 on: Sat, 23 November 2013, 19:20:12 »
So are the switch blockers anodized along with the case? Wondering if there might be some off-color issues if otherwise.
I dont think they are aprt of this GB.

Additionally I cant find any other info about them.


Hmmm... almost seems like you need to have them to vary layouts. I hope we can get more info from duck on this.

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« Reply #228 on: Sat, 23 November 2013, 23:17:06 »
So are the switch blockers anodized along with the case? Wondering if there might be some off-color issues if otherwise.
I dont think they are aprt of this GB.

Additionally I cant find any other info about them.


Hmmm... almost seems like you need to have them to vary layouts. I hope we can get more info from duck on this.

What do you mean? The keyboard is programmable. If you have a switch disabled in the firmware, it doesn't matter if it's covered or not: Those covers are purely aesthetic. It would, however, be great to get some more information. I'd like to get some.

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« Reply #229 on: Sat, 23 November 2013, 23:18:05 »
I'll get more information on the blockers.

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« Reply #230 on: Sun, 24 November 2013, 06:38:22 »
I was thinking this:
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http://duck0113.tistory.com/66

Also, you can split the right shift, and do it PURE style. I really like that solution as well.

thank you dorkvader
then have 0 and . on the sides of the up arrow.... and re-arrange the top row of the 'numpad' for the math operators
getting pretty excited!

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« Reply #231 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 12:44:37 »
I still owe many of you guys a voucher.  I'll get back to you shortly.

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« Reply #232 on: Sun, 01 December 2013, 13:45:02 »
I still owe many of you guys a voucher.  I'll get back to you shortly.

Ahem.

Guess I have to be more blunt -- what about  that voucher ? Anytime soon ? I will be happy to reinvest it into a group buy, preferably before they are over.
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« Reply #233 on: Sun, 01 December 2013, 15:15:01 »
Yeah, I'm sending out vouchers this week.  I'm wrapping up another group buy up (Realforce/Filco).


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« Reply #234 on: Sun, 01 December 2013, 15:30:06 »
Sherry, when the kits are ready to ship, could you please tell us what--if any--extras are available (like the block pieces), what's included, and also if we can get things like stabilizers from you for it?
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« Reply #235 on: Sun, 01 December 2013, 20:47:59 »
Yeah, I'm sending out vouchers this week.  I'm wrapping up another group buy up (Realforce/Filco).

Thanks, that will be just fine. Looking forward to spend more money ;)
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« Reply #236 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 05:05:32 »
Sherry, when the kits are ready to ship, could you please tell us what--if any--extras are available (like the block pieces), what's included, and also if we can get things like stabilizers from you for it?

I actually got a chance to talk to him today, and he said they are about ready.  I forgot to ask him about the blockers ;(

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« Reply #237 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:55:21 »
Sherry, when the kits are ready to ship, could you please tell us what--if any--extras are available (like the block pieces), what's included, and also if we can get things like stabilizers from you for it?

The blocks are $3.75 ea.

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« Reply #238 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 20:05:57 »
Will you have some available for us to add to our order then?
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« Reply #239 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 20:42:34 »
Will you have some available for us to add to our order then?

Yeah, we will have some for sure.

Can I get an estimate of how many people are considering to purchase?

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« Reply #240 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 21:09:13 »
Will you have some available for us to add to our order then?

Yeah, we will have some for sure.

Can I get an estimate of how many people are considering to purchase?

i don't mind getting some
what colors are available?

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« Reply #241 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 21:25:28 »
Will you have some available for us to add to our order then?

Yeah, we will have some for sure.

Can I get an estimate of how many people are considering to purchase?

i don't mind getting some
what colors are available?

I think it follows the color of the cases, so black, red, and silver are the ones available.  I have to make sure though.

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« Reply #242 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 21:33:02 »
sherry: please confirm to us the color available and how many duck block we can order :D
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« Reply #243 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 21:40:03 »
sherry: please confirm to us the color available and how many duck block we can order :D

For sure!  I think it should be an unlimited number of blockers.  Hopefully I do not take too much of a toll with the shipping cost, so I have to try to order as many as possible in this shipment.  I need to gauge this.

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« Reply #244 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:33:26 »
I'm guessing the keyblockers will be a separate buy? The lightsavers themselves are scheduled to ship to you (sherry) today right?

Not sure if this data is useful or not, but I will not be ordering any keyblockers.

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« Reply #245 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:37:26 »
Might be good to create a poll for those who ordered keyboard kits to see how many blockers and of which color they would be interested in getting.   That would give you some idea so you don't get too many.

P.S.: I'm interested in getting a few.  Probably ~5 pieces.
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« Reply #246 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 17:28:40 »
New firmware is up:
http://duck0113.tistory.com/

Looks like the layout will be in the form of an XML file.
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« Reply #247 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 07:53:14 »
New firmware is up:
http://duck0113.tistory.com/

Looks like the layout will be in the form of an XML file.
yeah, it's what the KMAC uses, and the 60% duck kb used. I consider these to be easily hand editable, and they are easy to read/write from the GUI.

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« Reply #248 on: Thu, 19 December 2013, 10:28:03 »


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« Reply #249 on: Thu, 19 December 2013, 11:55:55 »
Any news on this? I am _really_ looking forward to this board!