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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:14:46 »
Would this be something that a novice, like myself, would be able to assemble? I've never soldered anything in my life  :-[

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« Reply #51 on: Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:16:00 »
Soldering isn't hard, but it does take a moment to understand how your hands and equipment work together. I would suggest trying to solder on something you wouldn't feel bad about throwing away first, before working on something worth hundreds of dollars.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:38:34 »
sherryton,

do you have more details on the plate?

Is it mod friendly, I mean will it be possible to open the switches for lubing, etc. without desoldering the switches?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 25 October 2013, 20:34:07 »

What Sherry is offering now is the Light Saver, what I'm waiting for is the Mini Saver (60%) and Light Saver Limited(If it is TKL)

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I didn't know there were so many varieties of Ducks.  Although the Light Saver Limited looks to be quite special from the illustration and if Sherryton could get it (down the road) that would be worth getting as well.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 25 October 2013, 20:52:53 »
Got my duck V2 today. His stuff is solid! I think what I need from him is an alps numpad to match it!

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 25 October 2013, 21:09:58 »
sherryton,

do you have more details on the plate?

Is it mod friendly, I mean will it be possible to open the switches for lubing, etc. without desoldering the switches?

I do not think so.  It's just a guess because the Koreans do not like that.

The plate's material is STS-304 with a thickness of 1.5T.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #56 on: Sat, 26 October 2013, 18:52:37 »
Can you post a picture of the light saver PCB's? (when you have one) I'm seeing some confusing stuff on the ones there: is the tenkey a separate pcb, or is that just the image of the pad pcb? does it support center stem capslock? etc etc.

Otherwise, I really want one. bad.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 26 October 2013, 19:11:45 »
Can you post a picture of the light saver PCB's? (when you have one) I'm seeing some confusing stuff on the ones there: is the tenkey a separate pcb, or is that just the image of the pad pcb? does it support center stem capslock? etc etc.

Otherwise, I really want one. bad.

i think the imgur album in the op shows three pcbs:
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  • lightsaber = lightsaver

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #58 on: Sat, 26 October 2013, 20:56:35 »
Otherwise, I really want one. bad.

You see Sherryton, there's a rush for these. 

Please don't post a lottery system or some kind of nasty prize draw, to get a limited number of these.  Mainly because I always lose in draws (of any kind).

Have a real Group Buy that delivers these babies into our hands as soon as possible.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #59 on: Sat, 26 October 2013, 22:11:54 »
Otherwise, I really want one. bad.

You see Sherryton, there's a rush for these. 

Please don't post a lottery system or some kind of nasty prize draw, to get a limited number of these.  Mainly because I always lose in draws (of any kind).

Have a real Group Buy that delivers these babies into our hands as soon as possible.

This. I would love for a normal groupbuy, as soon as possible.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #60 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 00:45:16 »
Thanks for the feedback.  I'll go tell duck how appreciative you guys are!

The accessories does not include LED.  Most of the items that are included is to piece together everything.

There are 2 LEDs to each side on the bottom, and those are included.

the side LED's appear to be RED unless you desolder them and add your own.

Check out these plate options!

they appear to be available in red, silver or black (want black!) and you can pick winkey or WKL plate. PCB supports both.

I notice the downward facing LEDs are SMD to the PCB, so I'm curious as to what colours you can get, orange and blue ar shown in the pictures.

The website says something about shipping for orders over 600,000 won, so I assume you can just buy them (since they seem to expect orders that big).

Even better, the case is 6061 and the plate is STS-304!! I'm super excited about this.

In the features it also says : "- Complete support kimaeping" ('complete support keymapping' I imagine) so it looks reprogrammable, I would love to see their interface for this (graphical or otherwise)
also "- Full LED and LED side supports independent (individual keys can be controlled separately, many features will be updated later)" which is an exciting feature, and seems to indicate the interface isn't done yet.


seems its anodyzed from the USB port, so the finish will be a little different there.

On the website, it only allows me to choose up to three of them to add to the cart.

Ok go check it out yourselves! Based on the price they have listed, sherry's price is fantastic!

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #61 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 09:14:46 »
Very interested in this.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 10:56:48 »
Wow. With the new info above, I'm even more excited!

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #63 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 11:21:33 »
Wow. With the new info above, I'm even more excited!

I know! and there is even MORE information available on the website. Since the phantom, I've never been this excited about a custom keyboard until now.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #64 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 11:25:05 »
Is the keypad without plate? A separate plate? So many options on that side.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #65 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 12:21:34 »
Sher: i cannot stop thinking about light saver. I hope you can run GB for Light saver soon
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« Reply #66 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 12:31:20 »
But please have option for hard anod with Light Saver :)
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #67 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 13:58:53 »
http://cfile9.uf.tistory.com/image/22325E3C526CC7AA1BBFC8

There's another keypad that is not attached.  Otherwise, it is attached.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 14:07:08 »


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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 14:36:48 »
I've sold a few things so I would be interested in a Lightsaver.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 15:31:04 »
Is the keypad without plate? A separate plate? So many options on that side.
Here's a picture from the website. Seriously guys: go read it.


Looks like they do have two different plates for winkey or winkeyless. I am not, however, seeing cutouts for easy stem/spring swapping. Still, it's backlit so I can hardly blame them.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 15:37:33 »
http://imgur.com/a/JH9ox

These pictures look different than the latest photos from the website.
The pictures from imgur look like its two pieces and the plate is attached to the top. While the new photos look like the plate/pcb drops into the case and its one piece.

Incase you missed the websites:

http://duck0113.tistory.com/

http://www.kbd4u.com/product/detail.html?product_no=13&cate_no=34&display_group=1




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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #72 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 17:01:22 »
http://imgur.com/a/JH9ox

These pictures look different than the latest photos from the website.
The pictures from imgur look like its two pieces and the plate is attached to the top. While the new photos look like the plate/pcb drops into the case and its one piece.

the album shows two different keyboards;
the SAVER is two pieces with plate,
whereas the LIGHTSAVER is one piece with plate

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #73 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 17:10:32 »
We will also need the Upgrade kit.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #74 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 17:14:44 »
http://imgur.com/a/JH9ox

These pictures look different than the latest photos from the website.
The pictures from imgur look like its two pieces and the plate is attached to the top. While the new photos look like the plate/pcb drops into the case and its one piece.

the album shows two different keyboards;
the SAVER is two pieces with plate,
whereas the LIGHTSAVER is one piece with plate

Thanks for the clarification :)

Is this one going to be available soon?




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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #75 on: Sun, 27 October 2013, 22:59:14 »
nice KB, want 1 :D
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 07:25:34 »
As long as you are accepting payments after the end of November, I am in. :D

Edit: Winkey ver.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 29 October 2013, 18:41:38 »
Ok I have important questions.

In my opinion, many keyboards that are programmable are more or less crippled by the programming utility. This is the case with the Cherry G80-1950 and (to a lesser extent) the KMAC. The GUI may look nice and be easy to use, but the features aren't there. (For example, the Cherry doesn't have all keys available for programming. The KMAC has options for keys (toggleable function is one) that don't actually work, etc.) This has been alleviated with the rise of third party firmwares (TMK_Firmware for KMAC Looks like an excellent alternative) but is still somewhat of an issue.

I've been researching the Duck Saver and Lightsaver keyboards as much as I can, and I think I see references to a reprogramming utility, but have not seen any actual release or download. Will there be such a thing? more importantly, how good will it be? I'm okay pressing buttons in korean (or, better yet: just using text files and the command line, like what Soarer's firmware gives you), as long as it's easy to translate.

With the many plate options, it only makes sense for this keyboard to be programmable. Has a utility been released? What's it like? if not: is there a release date in mind? I can't wait to start using it. and picking what layout I'll have.

I think the underglow LED's are SMD and soldered already. Do you know what package / size they are? I need to start researching what custom colour I'll make mine.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #78 on: Tue, 29 October 2013, 18:52:05 »
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Ok I have important questions.

In my opinion, many keyboards that are programmable are more or less crippled by the programming utility. This is the case with the Cherry G80-1950 and (to a lesser extent) the KMAC. The GUI may look nice and be easy to use, but the features aren't there. (For example, the Cherry doesn't have all keys available for programming. The KMAC has options for keys (toggleable function is one) that don't actually work, etc.) This has been alleviated with the rise of third party firmwares (TMK_Firmware for KMAC Looks like an excellent alternative) but is still somewhat of an issue.

I've been researching the Duck Saver and Lightsaver keyboards as much as I can, and I think I see references to a reprogramming utility, but have not seen any actual release or download. Will there be such a thing? more importantly, how good will it be? I'm okay pressing buttons in korean (or, better yet: just using text files and the command line, like what Soarer's firmware gives you), as long as it's easy to translate.

With the many plate options, it only makes sense for this keyboard to be programmable. Has a utility been released? What's it like? if not: is there a release date in mind? I can't wait to start using it. and picking what layout I'll have.

I think the underglow LED's are SMD and soldered already. Do you know what package / size they are? I need to start researching what custom colour I'll make mine.

I'm also very curious about the reprogram utility. I saw earlier in this thread, it was mentioned that we would have individual LED control built-in, so I'm very curious about all of that.

The underglow/vanity LED lighting is also another good point. Until Dorkvader posted the details about it, I just assumed it worked like a GON and they soldered LED's on the bottom.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #79 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 04:59:49 »
Any known time frame on this?

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« Reply #80 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 22:50:57 »
The item will be available on my site for a week.  The reason for the increase in price was because of fees, customs, and shipping.  If we are able to reach 15 orders, then the price will drop to 285.

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« Reply #81 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 22:52:22 »
The item will be available on my site for a week.  The reason for the increase in price was because of fees, customs, and shipping.  If we are able to reach 15 orders, then the price will drop to 285.
How many will be available? Is there any limit?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #82 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 23:15:24 »
The item will be available on my site for a week.  The reason for the increase in price was because of fees, customs, and shipping.  If we are able to reach 15 orders, then the price will drop to 285.

Hi Sherry! I just tried to purchase a silver one and got this message:
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Unfortunately there is no Shipping Rate available for your destination and/or weight of your cart.

Please contact the Shop Owner for further assistance.

Is that just a problem with your site? I swear I entered my address correctly :))
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #83 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 23:30:38 »
The item will be available on my site for a week.  The reason for the increase in price was because of fees, customs, and shipping.  If we are able to reach 15 orders, then the price will drop to 285.

I'm sure it'll go to 15. This keyboard is awesome.

Need to know if these are winkeyless or winkey. Looking at the pictures the pcb supports both, but the plate only supports one or the other. I would prefer mine to be winkey.

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« Reply #84 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 23:51:36 »
The item will be available on my site for a week.  The reason for the increase in price was because of fees, customs, and shipping.  If we are able to reach 15 orders, then the price will drop to 285.
How many will be available? Is there any limit?

There will be a limit.  I am sorry, but I do have not much control over that.

The item will be available on my site for a week.  The reason for the increase in price was because of fees, customs, and shipping.  If we are able to reach 15 orders, then the price will drop to 285.

Hi Sherry! I just tried to purchase a silver one and got this message:
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Unfortunately there is no Shipping Rate available for your destination and/or weight of your cart.

Please contact the Shop Owner for further assistance.

Is that just a problem with your site? I swear I entered my address correctly :))

I think I fixed it.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #85 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 23:59:00 »
I think I fixed it.

Thanks! Works for me now. However there is one more issue I'm having with payment. PM'd you
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #86 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 00:03:15 »
If only I hadn't already invested in another TKL project--this is a great keyboard.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #87 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 00:03:55 »
I realize these can be PCB mounted but what if you want the plate, how does that work for allowing the different layouts?

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« Reply #88 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 01:04:48 »
I realize these can be PCB mounted but what if you want the plate, how does that work for allowing the different layouts?

This I would like to know too before I jump in.

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« Reply #89 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 01:51:46 »
Group Buy count will be posted on the OP.  For the plate, I will have to talk to them.  I did not really consider much of that.

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« Reply #90 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 08:57:51 »
I realize these can be PCB mounted but what if you want the plate, how does that work for allowing the different layouts?

Really good question, I am interested in this as well!

I prefer the feeling of plate-mounted switches over PCB-mounted switches and would like to know beforehand what options I'd have :)

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #91 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 09:24:16 »
I would prefer 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 for the bottom row with a standard numberpad layout, if possible.
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« Reply #92 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 09:38:58 »
It seems there are two plates, winkey and winkeyless. The difference is in the bottom row modifiers. The plates have large openings with extra space for the stabilizers on the numpad that allow passage of the stabilizers on the larger keys there if you so choose to use them. There is a picture of how it looks exactly on one of the posted sites. The two plates have the ability for the numpad to be adjusted as desired.

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« Reply #93 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 09:49:18 »
It seems there are two plates, winkey and winkeyless. The difference is in the bottom row modifiers. The plates have large openings with extra space for the stabilizers on the numpad that allow passage of the stabilizers on the larger keys there if you so choose to use them. There is a picture of how it looks exactly on one of the posted sites. The two plates have the ability for the numpad to be adjusted as desired.

http://imgur.com/a/JH9ox

Anyone interested in the Lightsaver or Duck V2 with the raiser?

The Lightsaver weighs approximately 4.7 lbs.  The box and accessories it comes with is an additional 4.6 lbs.

The cost is around $275.

This includes the case, plate, pcb, and accessories.


great looking board, if the keyboard weights 4.7lbs how can the accessories weigh additional 4.6lbs? what sort of accessories are those?  BTW did the guy came out with programming software for it?

My guess is that the accessories include both plates?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #94 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 09:50:28 »
It seems there are two plates, winkey and winkeyless. The difference is in the bottom row modifiers. The plates have large openings with extra space for the stabilizers on the numpad that allow passage of the stabilizers on the larger keys there if you so choose to use them. There is a picture of how it looks exactly on one of the posted sites. The two plates have the ability for the numpad to be adjusted as desired.

Sounds awesome!

I think I am going for a black one  ;D

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« Reply #95 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:06:26 »
Here's the picture I was describing. You can see the spaces are wide open. They can either accommodate two switches or a switch and stabilizers. Also, you can see how the right shift can be modified as well, same sort of principle.


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« Reply #96 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:09:42 »
Hell, it seems like the plate might possibly accommodate both bottom row setups. Anyone else see that? Especially with how the stabilizer sits in one of the slots that would be 1.25x.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #97 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:22:34 »
Hell, it seems like the plate might possibly accommodate both bottom row setups. Anyone else see that? Especially with how the stabilizer sits in one of the slots that would be 1.25x.

Yes, it appears to be that way. That would be awesome if it was true! Sherry, can you confirm/deny this? 
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« Reply #98 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:33:36 »
Those slots are definitely wider than one switch width. I'd bet money one plate does everything. Perfect.

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« Reply #99 on: Thu, 31 October 2013, 10:34:07 »
Man I really want one of these now, I'm such a flip flopper :(