Another IBM SSK

[Wildcard]

Back to 586

When keeping it real goes wrong.

[Michael]

Thats just mind boggling how it went close to 10k, back down to 586 because of 2 people bidding. Were they both bunk bidders? How in the hell... lol.

[Michael]

so harryM - what happened, bro?

[harryM]

Thats just mind boggling how it went close to 10k, back down to 586 because of 2 people bidding. Were they both bunk bidders? How in the hell... lol.

As this board is Virgin, it is very desirable. I am unsure whether to contact the seller and make an offer due to the shrill bidder.

[Wildcard]

I don't like to assume shill bidding, but you never know sometimes. Either eBay cancelled the bids for some reason, or someone pulled back their bids due to an "error", also known as a lapse in judgement.

[Michael]

Well, the sellers name is on the money




'Rayp999' (r a p e)

[harryM]

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I don't like to assume shill bidding, but you never know sometimes. Either eBay cancelled the bids for some reason, or someone pulled back their bids due to an "error", also known as a lapse in judgement.

Whilst my maximum price was not reached, an offer to the seller now could seal a price much lower than lets say, a second chance offer at the end.

[Wildcard]

Well, the sellers name is on the money

'Rayp999' (r a p e)

So I didn't see the bidding happen, so I'm only assuming here. But my bet is that Daddy Warbucks here has a very high bid entered and someone else decided to test the waters to see how high that bid goes? And that shill bidder, whom we'll call "Anne" quickly retracted their bids.

I'm going to just grab some popcorn and see how this one plays out.

[vivalarevolución]

Alright, who's the joker here?  Currently at $666.66.

[E TwentyNine]

Both shill bids were made within a minute of each other:

r***2 ( private ) Retracted: US $9,777.00  Bid: Feb-08-14 02:00:43 PST Retracted: Feb-08-14 02:14:09 PST

f***d ( 118     ) Retracted: US $9,999.00  Bid: Feb-08-14 01:59:51 PST Retracted: Feb-08-14 02:11:51 PST


And both were retracted about ten minutes later within a few minutes of each other.  Doubt the seller is that quick.  We know that ebay wouldn't do a thing.

Both were from bidders who previously had bid on German items.

The one with the private rating has 3 bid retractions in the past six months and not much else.  The other bids on computer equipment, almost exclusively keyboards - he may have been the winner of one of the recent ssk and industrial auctions that went to German winners.

They're obviously the same person.

And now that they exposed what the real highest bidder's high bid was, someone came along as a wiseass and bid $656.66, knowing full well someone had a higher bid in and it would autobid to $666.66.

[harryM]

This board is perfect with the date of manufacture matching my sons birthday. My bid will be placed at the end.

Me and my partner have been saving for a deposit on a house, however I am sure she will understand the importance and rarity of this purchase.

[Michael]

I am sure she will understand the importance and rarity of this purchase.

I am not too sure you understand women...

[intelli78]

Hello

As a serious keyboard collector, I can assure you that this SSK will belong to me at the end of the auction. It is unfortunate, though not a surprise that this specimen has appeared here hence my posting today.

Therefore I warn potential purchasers: This model is much more desirable to me than the other SSK I previously won, and I am looking for another on the go (to save my fingers from my dissatisfying laptop keyboard).

Whilst I am not a fan of people bidding early, my bid should neutralise any shrills. To those people I warn, you may be wasting your time. I believe this keyboard is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

I will post pictures on receipt of the keyboard.

I must warn you that I am prepared to bid $1,0000,0000 for this keyboard. As we speak, my assistant curator is preparing to receive the specimen for inclusion in the basement level exhibit of my private keyboard museum. I already have a pallet of virgin SSK's, but I am bidding on this one just so you can't have it. Prepare for your destiny.

[Laser]

So, is it a trick to scare people from bidding, knowing that there is someone who (hypothetically) can bid large amounts of money?

[harryM]

I must warn you that I am prepared to bid $1,0000,0000 for this keyboard. As we speak, my assistant curator is preparing to receive the specimen for inclusion in the basement level exhibit of my private keyboard museum. I already have a pallet of virgin SSK's, but I am bidding on this one just so you can't have it. Prepare for your destiny.

 

In all seriousness though, I will be winning this item 

[harryM]

So, is it a trick to scare people from bidding, knowing that there is someone who (hypothetically) can bid large amounts of money?

If someone bid $800 and it went for $2K I doubt they would feel like they just missed out. I can see retracted bids from shrills putting people off, it would be interesting to know if their are any other serious collectors bidding on this piece. I assume there are.

I am not too sure you understand women...

 ) I'm sure she won't mind 

[smknjoe]

Harry, it looks like you got the other Industrial SSK that was pulled out of a mechanic's shop and was very dirty. Post some pics of that clean board in the SSK thread if you will. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.90

[intelli78]

Harry, it looks like you got the other Industrial SSK that was pulled out of a mechanic's shop and was very dirty. Post some pics of that clean board in the SSK thread if you will. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.90

Yes!

[Pacifist]

Harry, it looks like you got the other Industrial SSK that was pulled out of a mechanic's shop and was very dirty. Post some pics of that clean board in the SSK thread if you will. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.90

+1

[meiosis]

I'm preparing for a $1,500 snipe

[fohat.digs]

You guys should work something out in private so that you don't just hurt each other needlessly while lining the pockets of a stranger.

[tinlong117]

lel, 1,133.11 usd

[intelli78]

lel, 1,133.11 usd

 

Prediction: a lot more of these are gonna come out of the woodwork in the next 2-3 weeks.

Re: final price. With people telegraphing their intentions, I will not be surprised to see trolls shilling the bid up to many thousands of dollars. Good chance the sale will be made as a private, second-chance type of deal. We shall see I suppose

[harryM]

Prediction: a lot more of these are gonna come out of the woodwork in the next 2-3 weeks.

Re: final price. With people telegraphing their intentions, I will not be surprised to see trolls shilling the bid up to many thousands of dollars. Good chance the sale will be made as a private, second-chance type of deal. We shall see I suppose

a 15K bid at the end will seal the deal for what the person before me was willing to pay. If it goes above 15K then I am happy to let it slip as I have quite the collection already.

[harryM]

Harry, it looks like you got the other Industrial SSK that was pulled out of a mechanic's shop and was very dirty. Post some pics of that clean board in the SSK thread if you will. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34712.90

Yes!

I shall post pictures when I get back from work 

[tjcaustin]

Prediction: a lot more of these are gonna come out of the woodwork in the next 2-3 weeks.

Re: final price. With people telegraphing their intentions, I will not be surprised to see trolls shilling the bid up to many thousands of dollars. Good chance the sale will be made as a private, second-chance type of deal. We shall see I suppose

a 15K bid at the end will seal the deal for what the person before me was willing to pay. If it goes above 15K then I am happy to let it slip as I have quite the collection already.

You mean the same as how you, out of the numerous that messaged the guy, somehow talked the guy selling 30 model Ms in bulk to sell you only one for $100 when he refused earlier in the week to sell all 5 for $750?  Hm.

[Photoelectric]

Right, fifteen thousand dollars--I can totally see you or anyone else spending that much on a keyboard...  Along with the other eBay thread, this reads very much like trolling.

[harryM]

Right, fifteen thousand dollars--I can totally see you or anyone else spending that much on a keyboard...  Along with the other eBay thread, this reads very much like trolling.

What do you believe this SSK to be worth?

[daetsid]

Right, fifteen thousand dollars--I can totally see you or anyone else spending that much on a keyboard...  Along with the other eBay thread, this reads very much like trolling.

What do you believe this SSK to be worth?

15k to you, right? : >

[smknjoe]

$600-$800 at the most.

[vivalarevolución]

I'm gonna paint an SSK gray and see what I can get for it after this show.

[smknjoe]

Don't forget to print out an appropriate label for the back.

[spuriousgeorge]

Any differences, other than color and scarcity, between this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box/131110156558?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20263%26meid%3D4720919487108673519%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9059%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380716650294) and a regular Space Saving keyboard?

[Pacifist]

it has the industrial case and is pretty much new

[Photoelectric]

Any differences, other than color and scarcity, between this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box/131110156558?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20263%26meid%3D4720919487108673519%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9059%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380716650294) and a regular Space Saving keyboard?

Merged your new thread with the original thread here.

[intelli78]

Any differences, other than color and scarcity, between this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box/131110156558?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20263%26meid%3D4720919487108673519%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9059%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380716650294) and a regular Space Saving keyboard?

No functional difference, just prettier and rarer.

[harryM]

Any differences, other than color and scarcity, between this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-System-2-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Model-M-Clicky-PS-2-New-in-Box/131110156558?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20263%26meid%3D4720919487108673519%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9059%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380716650294) and a regular Space Saving keyboard?

The industrial keyboards have more placebo than the regular buckling spring systems.

 

[spuriousgeorge]

Thanks for merging my thread, Photoelectric. Knew these boards were scarcer but didn't know what a premium that scarcity commanded.

So industrials are different aesthetically but not functionally?

[intelli78]

Thanks for merging my thread, Photoelectric. Knew these boards were scarcer but didn't know what a premium that scarcity commanded.

So industrials are different aesthetically but not functionally?

Yup

[smknjoe]

...and I don't think any Industrial has ever sold for more than ~$800.

[intelli78]

...and I don't think any Industrial has ever sold for more than ~$800.

This one sold for $1,100 last week

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Clicky-Keyboard-1395682-Space-Saver-Industrial-Grey-Vintage-/171225517180?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item27ddd60c7c

[smknjoe]

Besides that one.

[harryM]

Prices are on the rise. The build quality of these, well second to none. Even a modern mechanical keyboard isn't built to last with marketing people interfering and cost cutting etc. It makes no sense to make a keyboard to last forever, though the IBM was.

You can always take a model M and put key caps on it or spray it grey, or whatever... But it will never be of that original quality.

[spuriousgeorge]

You're right, harryM, their placebo is off the charts. 

[intelli78]

Prices are on the rise.

Let's see pics of the last one! 

[Thechemist]

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Bidder                                                                         Action                                                         Date of Bid and Retraction
j***c ( 66Feedback score is 50 to 99)                                                Retracted: US $14,000.00                                         Bid: Feb-09-14 09:56:40 PST
                                                                                                                                                        Retracted: Feb-09-14 10:05:04 PST

[fohat.digs]

Apparently a lot of people feel the way that I do, in that the absence of the label is not a negative, and may be a plus.

Either badge or label seems fine on a standard M, but they just seem too big and awkward on the SSK.

[harryM]

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Bidder                                                                         Action                                                         Date of Bid and Retraction
j***c ( 66Feedback score is 50 to 99)                                                Retracted: US $14,000.00                                         Bid: Feb-09-14 09:56:40 PST
                                                                                                                                                        Retracted: Feb-09-14 10:05:04 PST

<sigh>

[jdcarpe]

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Bidder                                                                         Action                                                         Date of Bid and Retraction
j***c ( 66Feedback score is 50 to 99)                                                Retracted: US $14,000.00                                         Bid: Feb-09-14 09:56:40 PST
                                                                                                                                                        Retracted: Feb-09-14 10:05:04 PST

<sigh>

Maybe they meant to bid $1,400.00?

[fohat.digs]

Whatever happened to stealth and keeping your business on the down-low?