[IC] Pulse SA - Round 3

[MiTo]

Alphas

Three distinct selections to pick from – regular legends, inverse color scheme and nordic runes – Dieter Rams kit from Canvas XDA.




Modifiers

Two different options – classic text or exclusive Micons convention modifiers from Canvas/Godspeed XDA, also the standalone numpad.




Hobbyist & Exotic

The Hobbyist kits are standalone kits for 60% keyboards and extension for TKL form factors and above. The Exotic kit is an extension for odd & snowflakey layouts.




Ortholinear & 40%

These are standalone modifier kits for ortholinear and 40% keyboards, such as OLKB Planck & Preonic, Vortexgear Core and several others.




Split

Available in two different options – blanks & legended, these are standalone modifier kits for split keyboards such as Infinity ErgoDox, Kinesis and others.



Languages & Systems

       
Extension kits for international users, different languages, efficiency layouts and operating systems.



Decoration

       
       

These kits provide the user with alternate options for keyboard ornamentation. There are logos from Nico Tzogalis in opaque and translucent options. The classic megaphone, printer and trash can designs made a return from the previous rounds, with the addition of the Cyan Cross. The Arrows kit comes with bold and ergonomic arrow options. There are communities coats of arms and also a monolegend number row, for a minimalistic look.



Spacebars

Extra spacebars to substitute shine or complement Alphas/Zambs/Rams, depending on the specific layout and kits selected. Also a small selection of Blanks to act as spacebars for Planck, etc.



Mitolet



This exclusive monokit is designed in the 2.2.3.3.3.3 spherical profile configuration from Signature Plastics, for those who find the 1.1.2.3.4.3 configuration too aggressive. Similarly to what I’ve done with Godspeed SA.

It features a custom recipe for the shade of violet with the resin pigmentation fine tuned by me – result of Legacy DSA & Laser GMK sampling phases.

The Mitolet monokit is designed to provide adequate layout coverage for some 40% keyboards and the vast majority of ANSI and WKL 60%, 65% and standard TKL keyboards – such as Vortexgear Core & Poker, Tokyo 60, Rama M60A, Tada 68, KBD 75, Keycool 87 and plenty of others.




Merchandise & Comissions

From custom merchandising, sleeves, hand made artisan keycaps to stickers and other keyboard items, if you are interested in contributing with your talents and know-how, please drop me a message (mito.rmk@gmail.com) – I would love to hear your ideas and help you bring your vision to reality. Lots of community members got involved in the Laser GMK project, hopefully we can work together!




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Thank you very much for looking, I'd like to know if there's enough interest to make this run happen!

Let me know if you have specific requests to make.

[MikeTheTiger]

Yes!!

[Fluffypupper22]

I've been waiting. Thank you for bringing back the set that got me into this hobby.

[LightningXI]

HYPE, time to double my PuLSE collection

[Puddsy]

i like the idea of the monokit, but i don't understand why it's a part of this GB and not it's own thing

also why is it kaps with a k, not with a c

that's weird

GMK pulse when

[jdcarpe]

Already have plenty of PuLSE, myself, but...nice!

I might need those minibars or a 40% kit

[Shell058]

So excited to add more to my PuLSE collection! This is the set that hooked me. <3

[Valaris]

I love Mitolet. So much purple coming out lately!

[Koobaczech]

Pulse all the way! Great job Mito!

[jdcarpe]

Pulse all the way! Great job Mito!

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najs one!

[Koobaczech]

najs one!

Lmao! Shoutout to my boy JD Carpe

[Oblotzky]

[foxlive]

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Ahahahah! This totally sum up my feelings write now! I want pulse so bad

[Vigrith]

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Eerily accurate.

[Techno Trousers]

Oh damn, I've been waiting for this one!

[kevinzavier]

yes!

[BobCarltheThird]

Looks like I need to sell some of my stuff )

[M]

Mitolet looks sick! Gonna have to save up for this one...

[dsaf]

Let me know if you have specific requests to make.

Yes, please:

1) Please add back the missing novelties:

 

2) An F-row color flex-kit would be great!

[futurecrime]

Love the Mitolet set. Would be wonderful if it could have homing T and N for Colemak, although I understand there's probably a whole bunch of other keys people would want added for compat before you start servicing the tiny subset of Colemak users... but I had to ask anyway.

[Unforgivable]

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And it’s people like Oblotzky that make a thread a million times better, lol. Thank you for the laugh!!

@Mito,

I love Mitolet, but would be happy if it included the needed HHKB/Winkeyless keycaps. (R1 1u |\, 1.5 CTRL/ALT, 7u Spacebar, etc.)

I’d honestly prefer (1.1.2.3.4.3) as well.

+1 for CAPS, instead of KAPS.

Just my 2 cents!

[a_ak57]

Maybe I just didn't notice it, but it seems none of the kits have the R1 1u |\ key for HHKB style layouts.  Was that R2 one in the exotic kit supposed to be R1?

[futurecrime]

i like the idea of the monokit, but i don't understand why it's a part of this GB and not it's own thing

also why is it kaps with a k, not with a c

that's weird

GMK pulse when

Massively agree with caps not kaps. Kinda ruins it a little for me.

[Techno Trousers]

1) Please add back the missing novelties:

 

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+1 Please roll the community keys into novelty and add DT back into the mix.

Woah, that image got edited before I posted. Were the community keys originally in the novelties, and was a DT key produced?

[dsaf]

+1 Please roll the community keys into novelty and add DT back into the mix.

Woah, that image got edited before I posted. Were the community keys originally in the novelties, and was a DT key produced?

Sorry, I was after Home, End, Page Up/Down etc...

[Data]

I can't not buy this again.

Take my money.   

[Techno Trousers]

Okay, looks like a DT key was produced. Please include it in the communities set! And +1 for the alternate image keys for insert/delete, home/end, PageUp/PageDown. Maybe they could go into the "arrows" kit if they don't belong in novelties any longer?

[cijanzen]

This looks really good and refreshed enough with some new ideas to definitely warrant a rerun. I'd love to see the Mitolet in sculpted profile! Great job.

[RealLaugh]

hyped for alphas, 40s and spacebars kits

...and also Mitolet!!!! got me drooling!!!

Would be great to maybe see how the Mitolet set works with turquoise modifiers in case one would like to mix. Of course it is <3 on it's own 

[gutsack]

What year will this ship? I have a five year-old, will SP produce this in time for him to see it before he goes off to college?

Still, though, interested. Especially in the runics. Agree with others that Mitolet seems like it should be a separate thing.

[d0thead]

Just make it happen already! Black Dieter rams look so good!

[hamilton]

Yes, I've been waiting for this

[zslane]

Is there a row3 1.25u FN key anywhere? I don't see one.

[Vigrith]

Sorry but why was this moved? It's going to highly impair the thread's success and by association the hype generated around the set because no one ever reads this sub-forum when compared to IC. Which is what this is, an interest check, regardless of whether or not it's affiliated with Massdrop.

[chuckdee]

Sorry but why was this moved? It's going to highly impair the thread's success and by association the hype generated around the set because no one ever reads this sub-forum when compared to IC. Which is what this is, an interest check, regardless of whether or not it's affiliated with Massdrop.

Agreed.  I guess he torpedoed himself when he linked to the MD IC?

[chuckdee]

Maybe I just didn't notice it, but it seems none of the kits have the R1 1u |\ key for HHKB style layouts.  Was that R2 one in the exotic kit supposed to be R1?

I think it was  supposed to be the  one in Exotics, but he marked it r2 instead of r1.

[Oblotzky]

Sorry but why was this moved? It's going to highly impair the thread's success and by association the hype generated around the set because no one ever reads this sub-forum when compared to IC. Which is what this is, an interest check, regardless of whether or not it's affiliated with Massdrop.

+1, this is an IC and should therefor stay in IC forum. Once the GB has launched this thread would be closed and a GB thread can be opened here in the MD forum.

[azachhh]

Sorry but why was this moved? It's going to highly impair the thread's success and by association the hype generated around the set because no one ever reads this sub-forum when compared to IC. Which is what this is, an interest check, regardless of whether or not it's affiliated with Massdrop.

+1, this is an IC and should therefor stay in IC forum. Once the GB has launched this thread would be closed and a GB thread can be opened here in the MD forum.

+1

[BobCarltheThird]

Sorry but why was this moved? It's going to highly impair the thread's success and by association the hype generated around the set because no one ever reads this sub-forum when compared to IC. Which is what this is, an interest check, regardless of whether or not it's affiliated with Massdrop.

+1, this is an IC and should therefor stay in IC forum. Once the GB has launched this thread would be closed and a GB thread can be opened here in the MD forum.

+1

I'm aware that geekhack isn't a democracy but still, I'mma put my +1 vote in

[Fallakin]

+1

[MiTo]

Addressing to some of the input that has been provided, thank you all so much for the feedback! Will adress the other messages soon, too.

Yes!!

<3

I've been waiting. Thank you for bringing back the set that got me into this hobby.

At your service, hope you enjoy the stay in this hobby and it brings you lots of satisfaction and joy. We love keyboards!

HYPE, time to double my PuLSE collection

Thank you very much for the support ⚡️1️⃣1️⃣, I hope the keycaps exceed your expectations and you enjoy the new things!

i like the idea of the monokit, but i don't understand why it's a part of this GB and not it's own thing

also why is it kaps with a k, not with a c

that's weird

GMK pulse when

Thank you very much for the input Puddsy, really appreciate it. The idea for the monokit was to bring something unique and a bit exclusive to the project, in order to offer the Cockpit setup variation for those who don't like the usual 112343. I don't exactly see why we would need all kits done with that, I'm under the impression that everything I envisioned for it is already covered - will add a couple 1.5u's and of course the 7u SPC. This way we will cover a lot of people without having a solo buy, a huge kit or expensive kits broken down. It' just an extra flavor, to offer a cool new product.

As for KAPS, I thought it would be funny to have a stylish keycap like that. KAPS as a reference for KeycAPS because let's be honest - who really needs a proper CAPS LOCK anyway? Double word modifier, rarely used keycap... Let's add some style there, make something unique! As for Pulse GMK, things are shaping nicely for that, I think we gonna have a very dope version on the profile, once it's all ready and figured out the way I like it to be. We are concluding the Laser stuff, too.

I love Mitolet. So much purple coming out lately!

💜 ~> this is a purple heart emoji, I swear.

Already have plenty of PuLSE, myself, but...nice!

I might need those minibars or a 40% kit

Thank you very much for the interest JD, you know it.

So excited to add more to my PuLSE collection! This is the set that hooked me. <3

I love the artwork you've got man, Krytone such a beast. At your service, immense honor that you enjoy the project, can't even put it into words. Hope you enjoy the hobby as much as possible and keep being happy and positive!

Pulse all the way! Great job Mito!

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At your service Koob! You've got the Koob Keeb suited up! Hope you like the renders on the page, anything you need or a specific config just let me know!

[get_weird]

Any chance for nav cluster novelties like the first set?

[ruhe]

I know it might be going out on a limb... but is there a possibility the ErgoDox/ErgoPro kit could be done with icon mods instead of text mods?

I know Ergo caps with legends are difficult because everyone has their keys mapped differently, but I feel like the icons are artistic and abstract enough that it wouldn't matter how the keys were technically labeled because the presentation would be so good.

That aside, it's a great set and I'm in!

[Fallakin]

Probably also going out on a limb....

Any chance for a 6.5u Spacebar for those of us using corsair keyboards? 

[Hokabuki]

Probably also going out on a limb....

Any chance for a 6.5u Spacebar for those of us using corsair keyboards? 

Poor Corsair users never have a chance. Would the stabs even allow for it?

[Jedi]

I would really like to ask if Mitolets be in the same SA fully sculpted keyset.  It's difficult to do flat perfectly with greater than a 60% which is why I keep godspeed all blue. I do have the cockpit kit too but sculpted just fits custom boards so much more nicely and is easier to get compatibility with the Extras kits. I get the desire to offer an alternate for ortho and ergodox users but the loss is felt harder on all the other keyboards and keyboard customs that would go with the colorway. I am really loving that designers have shifted toward keeping a "common" fully sculpted keyset (seen that positive change take place over the last two years) and that really makes it more possible to be more creative with mixing sets as opposed to only having one style possible because two designers used different SA profiles. Sets are expensive as it is not to mention the time to production so it would be nice to consider this if the community supports it.

If anyone else agrees, please speak up in the IC.

[Oblotzky]

Probably also going out on a limb....

Any chance for a 6.5u Spacebar for those of us using corsair keyboards? 

Signature Plastics does not have a mold for this Spacebar size.

[euphxenos]

In the Text Hobbyist kit, I suspect the 1U R4 PgUp was supposed to be a PgDn.

[sevenseacat]

Love the Mitolet set. Would be wonderful if it could have homing T and N for Colemak, although I understand there's probably a whole bunch of other keys people would want added for compat before you start servicing the tiny subset of Colemak users... but I had to ask anyway.

yes! Please this!

[foxlive]

I would really like to ask if Mitolets be in the same SA fully sculpted keyset.  It's difficult to do flat perfectly with greater than a 60% which is why I keep godspeed all blue. I do have the cockpit kit too but sculpted just fits custom boards so much more nicely and is easier to get compatibility with the Extras kits. I get the desire to offer an alternate for ortho and ergodox users but the loss is felt harder on all the other keyboards and keyboard customs that would go with the colorway. I am really loving that designers have shifted toward keeping a "common" fully sculpted keyset (seen that positive change take place over the last two years) and that really makes it more possible to be more creative with mixing sets as opposed to only having one style possible because two designers used different SA profiles. Sets are expensive as it is not to mention the time to production so it would be nice to consider this if the community supports it.

If anyone else agrees, please speak up in the IC.

Agreed on this, I would really like the Mitolets in same SA fully sculpted profile

[Shell058]

I know it might be going out on a limb... but is there a possibility the ErgoDox/ErgoPro kit could be done with icon mods instead of text mods?

I know Ergo caps with legends are difficult because everyone has their keys mapped differently, but I feel like the icons are artistic and abstract enough that it wouldn't matter how the keys were technically labeled because the presentation would be so good.

That aside, it's a great set and I'm in!

I second the icon Ergodox idea! I always see complaints about ergo text mods not matching customized layouts, and I think icons would solve that and also look fantastic.

[Fallakin]

Probably also going out on a limb....

Any chance for a 6.5u Spacebar for those of us using corsair keyboards? 

Signature Plastics does not have a mold for this Spacebar size.

 

[breusch91]

I LOVE those colors on the mito kit. Wish it was fully sculpted, might have to just use the different row 1 and 4 from the normal kit and see how it works out. That purple is beautiful

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[Vigrith]

IC forums - 35 replies in like an hour.

MD forums - like 10 replies outside of complaints and Mito's post in 48 hours, 1 in the last 24.

Oh boy would you look at the time

[denym_]

Oh well... Just ordered parts for my first custom mechanical and this pops up. Guess I need 2 keyboards...

Is it only the Mitolet that comes in the 2.3.3.3.3 option
or does the pulse also comes in 1.2.3.4.3 and 2.3.3.3.3.

[Oblotzky]

Oh well... Just ordered parts for my first custom mechanical and this pops up. Guess I need 2 keyboards...

Is it only the Mitolet that comes in the 2.3.3.3.3 option
or does the pulse also comes in 1.2.3.4.3 and 2.3.3.3.3.

Only Mitolet is currently going to be 223333

[jdcarpe]

I’m all about that sculpted SA, but after using my Filco sphericals for a while, I can definitely see the appeal of 2-2-3-3-3-3

[Fooblitzky]

All Zambloos for me please.

I'm in for Zambs, Text Mods, Hobbyist, Novelties, 7U Space, and Numpad. I hope that's all I need.

[sevenseacat]

IC forums - 35 replies in like an hour.

MD forums - like 10 replies outside of complaints and Mito's post in 48 hours, 1 in the last 24.

And on Reddit there was like 200 comments in a matter of hours.

[kmba]

I think the mono kit should be expanded to provide enough black keys to cover the whole top row on at least a 60%. This would entail minimal additions of a black esc, 1u backspace and 2u backspace. That way we could use zambs and modifiers with an all black top row

[peggisan]

Would it be possible to get 1 extra R3 key in the rams set? The rune symbols are pretty interchangeable but getting a extra R3 using a R2 symbol will make it work with Dvorak and Colemak without having to use duplicate keys.

[NovaLion]

Oh man, I'm so stoked. I've been trying to get this set for so long. Count me in for Alphas, Zambs, Rams, Text Mods, Numpad, Novelties, Arrows and the 7U Space. Maybe 2 sets each.

[mgsickler]

Nice! I knew you were running R3, but I never saw the IC thread.

Great work and I love the updates.


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[Oblotzky]

Nice! I knew you were running R3, but I never saw the IC thread.

Great work and I love the updates.


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If only there was a place where IC's could be posted in 

[jdcarpe]

Nice! I knew you were running R3, but I never saw the IC thread.

Great work and I love the updates.


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If only there was a place where IC's could be posted in 

Yes, if only...

[Vigrith]

Hey mods, surely you're monitoring the thread/section (if you're not then we have an even bigger problem), how about we actually start listening to community feedback, facing the facts and just revert things back to how they were? You can revisit this faux "solution" at a later stage once you actually make up your mind as for what you want to do with ICs and once other vendors actually get their threads moved to their sub-forums instead of ostracising Massdrop for no valid reason.

You had your experiment, maybe the timing just isn't right and it's okay to be wrong. I think we can all agree with the fact that if this were to be in the IC forum this would be at least 5 pages long by now and instead its gotten like 1 reply a day. Just let it go, all you're doing it retracting attention from Geekhack since everyone just goes to MD to discuss this instead.

We don't need a full month or however long to gather data to have definite proof that the literal only reason you wouldn't revert this change would be because you don't wanna give in and admit it's a ****ed up thing to do.

[tanvir175]

Hey mods, surely you're monitoring the thread/section (if you're not then we have an even bigger problem), how about we actually start listening to community feedback, facing the facts and just revert things back to how they were? You can revisit this faux "solution" at a later stage once you actually make up your mind as for what you want to do with ICs and once other vendors actually get their threads moved to their sub-forums instead of ostracising Massdrop for no valid reason.

You had your experiment, maybe the timing just isn't right and it's okay to be wrong. I think we can all agree with the fact that if this were to be in the IC forum this would be at least 5 pages long by now and instead its gotten like 1 reply a day. Just let it go, all you're doing it retracting attention from Geekhack since everyone just goes to MD to discuss this instead.

We don't need a full month or however long to gather data to have definite proof that the literal only reason you wouldn't revert this change would be because you don't wanna give in and admit it's a ****ed up thing to do.

It's just sad that they're continuing it at this point :\

[elfick]

Apologies for being off-topic, but what was the rationale for moving ICs. It seems pretty dumb to me. IC's, by their very nature, are vendor neutral. If an IC never goes to GB, how is there a vendor?
What if an IC expresses intent to run on MD but MD doesn't accept the IC and it ends up getting run somewhere else?
Really just an all-around bad decision.

[Parva Ovis]

Apologies for being off-topic, but what was the rationale for moving ICs. It seems pretty dumb to me. IC's, by their very nature, are vendor neutral. If an IC never goes to GB, how is there a vendor?
What if an IC expresses intent to run on MD but MD doesn't accept the IC and it ends up getting run somewhere else?
Really just an all-around bad decision.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94455.0 is where the topic is being discussed.

[MiTo]

UPDATE #1 - Community Requests' Change log:

Tweaks:
• Added R1 1u \ | keycap to all Alpha kits (for HHKB layout compatibility);
• Removed the f-row from Zambs and added an inverted colorscheme F-Row kit;
• Swapped R1 1u PG DN from Text Hobbyist & Icon Hobbyist for R1 1u PG UP;
• Added R2 1u PG DN to Text Hobbyist & Icon Hobbyist kits;
• Added R4 1u SHIFT to Text Hobbyist & Icon Hobbyist kits;
• Added R1 1u PN to Exotic kit (Vortex Race compatibility);
• Added R4 1u SHIFT to Exotic kit;
• Added R1 1u ESC and R1 1u BKSP to Ortho kit;
• Added R3 1u CTRL and R3 1u ALT to Ortho kit;
• Added R4 1u SHIFT to Ortho kit;
• Added R1 1u "2 to Norde kit;
• Added a Mac kit;
• Added punctuation keycaps to Mono kit;
• Added Blanks kit;
• Expanded Mitolet kit towards winkeyless compatibility (7u bottom row, 1u REKT,  1u \ |);

Developing:
• Black modifier kits (Text Noire & Icon Noire);
• Novelties - studying inclusion of the old Round 1/2 pictograms.




Disclaimer:
Several other suggestions were considered and studied, some of them I even added. But when balancing things out, I decided not to include them, to make things affordable and more straight forward to everyone all things considered. Hope you understand!

Please keep suggestions coming, feedback is greatly appreciated and I will keep doing tweak runs per your requests.

Coming next:
I'll be fixing some keyboard renders and displaying more combinations this week (12th March ~ 19 March).

[chuckdee]

Really like the black modifier kits!

[Parva Ovis]

There are four modifier styles (Text Blue, Icon Blue, Text Noire, and Icon Noire), but only Text Blue has an R4 1.25u key; one in the UK kit and one in the Norde kit. I don't mind if it's a blank key or an icon key, but could a black R4 1.25u key be included somewhere? A lot of 40% keyboards use a R4 1.25u key and I want to be able to kit my Vortex Core out in properly sculpted Icon Noire, if possible. I've used R3 keys as stand-ins on my Core before and IMO it just doesn't look or feel right.

I do really love the Icon Noire look and hope to see a render of it with Rams alphas!

[MiTo]

Really like the black modifier kits!

Thank you very much for the feedback Chuck, I'm gonna be working on some visualizations for this combo coming next.

There are four modifier styles (Text Blue, Icon Blue, Text Noire, and Icon Noire), but only Text Blue has an R4 1.25u key; one in the UK kit and one in the Norde kit. I don't mind if it's a blank key or an icon key, but could a black R4 1.25u key be included somewhere? A lot of 40% keyboards use a R4 1.25u key and I want to be able to kit my Vortex Core out in properly sculpted Icon Noire, if possible. I've used R3 keys as stand-ins on my Core before and IMO it just doesn't look or feel right.

I do really love the Icon Noire look and hope to see a render of it with Rams alphas!

I see what you're talking about, the thing is that I had to restrict the international communities to the most fundamental/recognizable color scheme of the keycap set (cyan & black). So offering all combinations wasn't possible, it will only make everything more expensive. I gave it a try on Godspeed XDA and we sold over 7,400 kits but only four Lunar Norde Kits. Hope you understand. As for you request, there's a R3 1.25u black keycap on the Blanks kit, please verify and let me know if that works for you!

[kmba]

I don't quite understand the punctuation additions in the mono kit.   

[tanvir175]

I don't quite understand the punctuation additions in the mono kit.   

The point of the mono kit is to have a set that is completely mono-legend. Numrow has dual legends and so do the punctuation keys.

[Parva Ovis]

There are four modifier styles (Text Blue, Icon Blue, Text Noire, and Icon Noire), but only Text Blue has an R4 1.25u key; one in the UK kit and one in the Norde kit. I don't mind if it's a blank key or an icon key, but could a black R4 1.25u key be included somewhere? A lot of 40% keyboards use a R4 1.25u key and I want to be able to kit my Vortex Core out in properly sculpted Icon Noire, if possible. I've used R3 keys as stand-ins on my Core before and IMO it just doesn't look or feel right.

I do really love the Icon Noire look and hope to see a render of it with Rams alphas!

I see what you're talking about, the thing is that I had to restrict the international communities to the most fundamental/recognizable color scheme of the keycap set (cyan & black). So offering all combinations wasn't possible, it will only make everything more expensive. I gave it a try on Godspeed XDA and we sold over 7,400 kits but only four Lunar Norde Kits. Hope you understand. As for you request, there's a R3 1.25u black keycap on the Blanks kit, please verify and let me know if that works for you!

I get what you mean, but as a counterpoint, SA Oblivion had three modifier styles with two alpha colors and sold twice as many UK kits as XDA Godspeed with 1k fewer total orders. I don't think fully-maxed out kits is the best move, either, but there's a middle ground somewhere. As the kits stand right now, if someone wanted a Zambs UK ISO set, for example, they could hack it together with the current kits and just deal with the inaccurate legends while having the correct row/size/color, but the same is not possible for the black modifiers because there is literally no black 1.25u R4 or R2 key, regardless of legend. If I could, I would order a blank directly from SP, but they haven't been in stock for a while.

[Wetherbee]

Developing:
• Black modifier kits (Text Noire & Icon Noire);

This what I came here for, except it needs a Tsangan bottom row. Black mods and black alphas. Winkeyless pls (same complaint about Mitolet).

[euphxenos]

MiTo,

The Text Hobbyist kit still contains a 1U R4 PgUp that should be a PgDn.  The icon in the corresponding Icon Hobbyist key is a down icon.  This looks like simply a mistake in the Text Hobbyist kit.

[krey]

please make it happen!

[GreyAmbience]

Beautiful mito <3

[kmba]

I don't quite understand the punctuation additions in the mono kit.   

The point of the mono kit is to have a set that is completely mono-legend. Numrow has dual legends and so do the punctuation keys.

Oh, duh.

[salasource]

Black modifier kit could use one R4 1.25U SHIFT

[foxlive]

It look very nice with black modifier

[theknown]

In for some Rams

[crystalhand]

Looks absolutely awesome.  I will be placing an order. At least I will have a few months to love on the godspeed xda keycaps.

[Fallakin]

Well considering I bit the bullet and bought a Whitefox today, I'll have to get these now...  )

[ctzn_voyager]

Love these kits, I'll be in for most of them. Keep bringin the heat, MiTo

[avid]

Black uniform kits are great. Would you consider including Iso shift + Iso enter in black in some form? If not in that set, in the ISO uk kit.

[amnesia0287]

Developing:
• Black modifier kits (Text Noire & Icon Noire);

This what I came here for, except it needs a Tsangan bottom row. Black mods and black alphas. Winkeyless pls (same complaint about Mitolet).

+1

All my boards are 7u Tsangan style.

[pomk]

No ISO support for rams?

[Keebmeupscotty]

@mito Everything looks amazing and it is awesome to see how much feedback from the community you have incorporated into the sets already! I'm curious though, have you ever given a thought to doing like a roman numeral set to go along with Dieter Rams? I understand they might need molds made (doubt the normal I, V and Xs could be used), so they might not be for this set, but perhaps the next dye sub set you do with the rams as an option? I feel like I,II,III,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,IX, and maybe just X even though it stands for 10 would work, no? I could see the VIII being difficult to fit on a 1u. Maybe making up something like IIX if it would fit. Anyway, I think they might go a lot better with the rams set than the monos. Just a thought, but awesome set either way and thanks for the upcoming chance to get a hold of them!

[pomk]

@mito Everything looks amazing and it is awesome to see how much feedback from the community you have incorporated into the sets already! I'm curious though, have you ever given a thought to doing like a roman numeral set to go along with Dieter Rams? I understand they might need molds made (doubt the normal I, V and Xs could be used), so they might not be for this set, but perhaps the next dye sub set you do with the rams as an option? I feel like I,II,III,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,IX, and maybe just X even though it stands for 10 would work, no? I could see the VIII being difficult to fit on a 1u. Maybe making up something like IIX if it would fit. Anyway, I think they might go a lot better with the rams set than the monos. Just a thought, but awesome set either way and thanks for the upcoming chance to get a hold of them!

Nordic people did not like writing numbers down, but when they did they definitely did not use roman numbers for it. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dftS6agMeLY/Uv1R45sHkZI/AAAAAAAABgE/jW_c5oCSjEk/s1600/Runic-Numerals-Ed.jpg
Keep it as it is, or at least make up something remotely accurate instead of mixing different ’old’ notations without thought.

[Hammer]

Mitolet looks sick! Gonna have to save up for this one...

Mitolet looks sick! Gonna have to save up for this one...

R.I.P

[Keebmeupscotty]

@mito Everything looks amazing and it is awesome to see how much feedback from the community you have incorporated into the sets already! I'm curious though, have you ever given a thought to doing like a roman numeral set to go along with Dieter Rams? I understand they might need molds made (doubt the normal I, V and Xs could be used), so they might not be for this set, but perhaps the next dye sub set you do with the rams as an option? I feel like I,II,III,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,IX, and maybe just X even though it stands for 10 would work, no? I could see the VIII being difficult to fit on a 1u. Maybe making up something like IIX if it would fit. Anyway, I think they might go a lot better with the rams set than the monos. Just a thought, but awesome set either way and thanks for the upcoming chance to get a hold of them!

Nordic people did not like writing numbers down, but when they did they definitely did not use roman numbers for it. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dftS6agMeLY/Uv1R45sHkZI/AAAAAAAABgE/jW_c5oCSjEk/s1600/Runic-Numerals-Ed.jpg
Keep it as it is, or at least make up something remotely accurate instead of mixing different ’old’ notations without thought.

Point taken. However, my statement wasn't thoughtless. I respect your dedication to the integrity of the runes' historical uses, but my thought was completely based on aesthetics. I feel the straight lines of roman numerals might go better with the runes. Seeing as how the Rams set was created as a "novelty add-on that celebrates the GOAT of industrial design school and his contribution to modern society," I don't think the point was to be historically accurate, but to make a set with a bit of history to it that uses simplicity to please the eye as an homage to Dieter Rams.

[Parva Ovis]

@mito Everything looks amazing and it is awesome to see how much feedback from the community you have incorporated into the sets already! I'm curious though, have you ever given a thought to doing like a roman numeral set to go along with Dieter Rams? I understand they might need molds made (doubt the normal I, V and Xs could be used), so they might not be for this set, but perhaps the next dye sub set you do with the rams as an option? I feel like I,II,III,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,IX, and maybe just X even though it stands for 10 would work, no? I could see the VIII being difficult to fit on a 1u. Maybe making up something like IIX if it would fit. Anyway, I think they might go a lot better with the rams set than the monos. Just a thought, but awesome set either way and thanks for the upcoming chance to get a hold of them!

Nordic people did not like writing numbers down, but when they did they definitely did not use roman numbers for it. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dftS6agMeLY/Uv1R45sHkZI/AAAAAAAABgE/jW_c5oCSjEk/s1600/Runic-Numerals-Ed.jpg
Keep it as it is, or at least make up something remotely accurate instead of mixing different ’old’ notations without thought.

Point taken. However, my statement wasn't thoughtless. I respect your dedication to the integrity of the runes' historical uses, but my thought was completely based on aesthetics. I feel the straight lines of roman numerals might go better with the runes. Seeing as how the Rams set was created as a "novelty add-on that celebrates the GOAT of industrial design school and his contribution to modern society," I don't think the point was to be historically accurate, but to make a set with a bit of history to it as an homage to Dieter Rams, that pleases the eye.

The Pentimal system symbols would be more fitting, I think.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentimal_system

[prelude46]

I'd love to see some renders of the Zambs with the Noire Mods/Icons 

[pomk]

@mito Everything looks amazing and it is awesome to see how much feedback from the community you have incorporated into the sets already! I'm curious though, have you ever given a thought to doing like a roman numeral set to go along with Dieter Rams? I understand they might need molds made (doubt the normal I, V and Xs could be used), so they might not be for this set, but perhaps the next dye sub set you do with the rams as an option? I feel like I,II,III,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,IX, and maybe just X even though it stands for 10 would work, no? I could see the VIII being difficult to fit on a 1u. Maybe making up something like IIX if it would fit. Anyway, I think they might go a lot better with the rams set than the monos. Just a thought, but awesome set either way and thanks for the upcoming chance to get a hold of them!

Nordic people did not like writing numbers down, but when they did they definitely did not use roman numbers for it. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dftS6agMeLY/Uv1R45sHkZI/AAAAAAAABgE/jW_c5oCSjEk/s1600/Runic-Numerals-Ed.jpg
Keep it as it is, or at least make up something remotely accurate instead of mixing different ’old’ notations without thought.

Point taken. However, my statement wasn't thoughtless. I respect your dedication to the integrity of the runes' historical uses, but my thought was completely based on aesthetics. I feel the straight lines of roman numerals might go better with the runes. Seeing as how the Rams set was created as a "novelty add-on that celebrates the GOAT of industrial design school and his contribution to modern society," I don't think the point was to be historically accurate, but to make a set with a bit of history to it that uses simplicity to please the eye as an homage to Dieter Rams.

Fair enough. I just don't like the look of combining a font without serif's to another one with them and roman numerals look awkward when done with a font without serif's. The nordic runes would look very strange if someone added serif's to them  .

[nathanchere]

Like you even need to 'Interest Check' anything Mito... just build it and they will come 

[Vigrith]

The noir kits are fantastic and I'm sure many will appreciate them - there are many fans of uniform mod/alpha colour sets out there, glad to see it happen here.

[ullr]

My gripe with the runes kit is that I don’t like how it stretches the elder futhark to 26 characters, by just doubling Kaunan and Wunjō.

There are a lot of other options, such as

• Glyph variants employed in the Elder Futhark: ᛝ, ᚻ, ᛊ (epsilonoid shape) (I think these are best)
• Anglo‐Saxon runes: ᛥ, ᚸ
• Runic punctuation: ᛫, ᛬
• Simple bind runes

Also the the characters themselves seem to vary in size a lot compared to extant inscriptions — some (ᛜ, ᛞ, ᚲ) are a lot bigger than most sources make them and some (ᚦ, ᚹ, ᛒ) are relatively tiny

However, I do love the idea of a rune kit and I think this may be my first time joining a Pulse GB because of it.

[Koatl]

Like you even need to 'Interest Check' anything Mito... just build it and they will come 

Yup. My only complaint is that I won't have it now. Hope this goes up real soon!

[Oblotzky]

Like you even need to 'Interest Check' anything Mito... just build it and they will come 

Yup. My only complaint is that I won't have it now. Hope this goes up real soon!

This IC mainly serves as a forum for feedback, there have been plenty of suggestions and resulting changes to the kits due to that already.

[Merfolk]

Is there a row3 1.25u FN key anywhere? I don't see one.

Please put this key in the Text Mods kit.

[DillonHightower]

Any reason no number pad is being offered in the purple mitolet option? It will look odd with the other number pad in Black normal profile. Please consider a numpad to match this beautiful set.

[Keebmeupscotty]

Any reason no number pad is being offered in the purple mitolet option? It will look odd with the other number pad in Black normal profile. Please consider a numpad to match this beautiful set.

I believe he stated that the Mitolet set is meant as a standalone 40%-TKL kit. While I would like the flexibility of having a numpad, I love the idea of a set geared toward covering the vast majority of small boards so that you can get away with one set for the majority of them. Usually have to buy like 2-3 sets just to cover these small boards, so this set is really appealing to me (doubly because of the profile). Plus, that purple... Also, I think that I saw a reply from Mito at one point to not worry if you like that colorway, but not that specific set layout because a full SA Laser set is planned at some point in the future.

[MikeTheTiger]

Any reason no number pad is being offered in the purple mitolet option? It will look odd with the other number pad in Black normal profile. Please consider a numpad to match this beautiful set.

I believe he stated that the Mitolet set is meant as a standalone 40%-TKL kit. While I would like the flexibility of having a numpad, I love the idea of a set geared toward covering the vast majority of small boards so that you can get away with one set for the majority of them. Usually have to buy like 2-3 sets just to cover these small boards, so this set is really appealing to me (doubly because of the profile). Plus, that purple... Also, I think that I saw a reply from Mito at one point to not worry if you like that colorway, but not that specific set layout because a full SA Laser set is planned at some point in the future.

How does this cover 40% boards like the Planck or MiniVan? I can see the TKL, but the Mitolet kit is missing certain keys to make it appropriate for smaller boards. Either way, I'm probably getting it...but it would be nice to have a numpad in the same color.

[chuckdee]

Any reason no number pad is being offered in the purple mitolet option? It will look odd with the other number pad in Black normal profile. Please consider a numpad to match this beautiful set.

I believe he stated that the Mitolet set is meant as a standalone 40%-TKL kit. While I would like the flexibility of having a numpad, I love the idea of a set geared toward covering the vast majority of small boards so that you can get away with one set for the majority of them. Usually have to buy like 2-3 sets just to cover these small boards, so this set is really appealing to me (doubly because of the profile). Plus, that purple... Also, I think that I saw a reply from Mito at one point to not worry if you like that colorway, but not that specific set layout because a full SA Laser set is planned at some point in the future.

How does this cover 40% boards like the Planck or MiniVan? I can see the TKL, but the Mitolet kit is missing certain keys to make it appropriate for smaller boards. Either way, I'm probably getting it...but it would be nice to have a numpad in the same color.

In SA Godspeed with the cockpit set, you had to purchase the 40% set also.  That might not be applicable since it's a different color in this case, or maybe he needs to make a 40s set for Mitolet?

[MikeTheTiger]

Any reason no number pad is being offered in the purple mitolet option? It will look odd with the other number pad in Black normal profile. Please consider a numpad to match this beautiful set.

I believe he stated that the Mitolet set is meant as a standalone 40%-TKL kit. While I would like the flexibility of having a numpad, I love the idea of a set geared toward covering the vast majority of small boards so that you can get away with one set for the majority of them. Usually have to buy like 2-3 sets just to cover these small boards, so this set is really appealing to me (doubly because of the profile). Plus, that purple... Also, I think that I saw a reply from Mito at one point to not worry if you like that colorway, but not that specific set layout because a full SA Laser set is planned at some point in the future.

How does this cover 40% boards like the Planck or MiniVan? I can see the TKL, but the Mitolet kit is missing certain keys to make it appropriate for smaller boards. Either way, I'm probably getting it...but it would be nice to have a numpad in the same color.

In SA Godspeed with the cockpit set, you had to purchase the 40% set also.  That might not be applicable since it's a different color in this case, or maybe he needs to make a 40s set for Mitolet?

But that would add more kits and would almost make sense to run Mitolet by itself. I think adding numpad keys would only help it as a stand alone kit

[chuckdee]

But that would add more kits and would almost make sense to run Mitolet by itself. I think adding numpad keys would only help it as a stand alone kit

I'm just stating what he said when I asked him for Godspeed.

[MikeTheTiger]

Now that I look at the renders on Mito's site, I need that purple for my purple boards. Damn sexy!!

[iliketimex]

I know it won't happen but I would buy a row 4 to row 3 conversion kit for the cyan on black alphas, if it were offered.

[DillonHightower]

Any reason no number pad is being offered in the purple mitolet option? It will look odd with the other number pad in Black normal profile. Please consider a numpad to match this beautiful set.

I believe he stated that the Mitolet set is meant as a standalone 40%-TKL kit. While I would like the flexibility of having a numpad, I love the idea of a set geared toward covering the vast majority of small boards so that you can get away with one set for the majority of them. Usually have to buy like 2-3 sets just to cover these small boards, so this set is really appealing to me (doubly because of the profile). Plus, that purple... Also, I think that I saw a reply from Mito at one point to not worry if you like that colorway, but not that specific set layout because a full SA Laser set is planned at some point in the future.

How does this cover 40% boards like the Planck or MiniVan? I can see the TKL, but the Mitolet kit is missing certain keys to make it appropriate for smaller boards. Either way, I'm probably getting it...but it would be nice to have a numpad in the same color.

In SA Godspeed with the cockpit set, you had to purchase the 40% set also.  That might not be applicable since it's a different color in this case, or maybe he needs to make a 40s set for Mitolet?

But that would add more kits and would almost make sense to run Mitolet by itself. I think adding numpad keys would only help it as a stand alone kit

I agree with this completely. Big boards are on the rise, and I, along with many others, already have normal pulse. That purple kit would be the only reason I would join this round, but without a number pad to match it is a big no for me. I’m not in to smaller boards so as much as I love the keyset, I feel it would be an incomplete set for me. Maybe run a pull just to gauge interest to see if it would be worth your time ? I truly feel you are cutting out half your player base by not offering the accompanying sets in that awesome color. 😢

[Phenix]

are you sure about that the "Split kit" will actually fit a Kinesis?
I doubt it: the ergodox uses 1.5u mod keys while the Kinesis advantage uses 1.25u mod keys

so.... !?

[iliketimex]

So Pulse is now live on Massdrop ... is there a GB thread yet?

[Vigrith]

So Pulse is now live on Massdrop ... is there a GB thread yet?

They banned Mito on here. So... no. I guess someone else could make one, but you know.

[chuckdee]

So Pulse is now live on Massdrop ... is there a GB thread yet?

They banned Mito on here. So... no. I guess someone else could make one, but you know.

Did they?  He doesn't show as banned...

[iliketimex]

They banned Mito on here. So... no. I guess someone else could make one, but you know.

They banned Mito? Well i won't get into the politics of that, but I first learned of Pulse on geekhack. That is too bad.

The discussion of Pulse on MD is turning really negative, which I disagree with. People seem to want every single option in a keyset, for every single keyboard made, in every single Pulse colorway possible, for the cheapest price possible if not cheaper, and that's not really how life works. But I guess i said my peace and will enjoy the Pulse keycaps I ordered.

[Techno Trousers]

A TKL+novelties+arrows is north of $200 shipped right now. I need to do some soul searching. I know I'll regret it if I don't jump in, but damn.

[iliketimex]

A TKL+novelties+arrows is north of $200 shipped right now. I need to do some soul searching. I know I'll regret it if I don't jump in, but damn.

I think the TKL (black alphas + normal mods) is $109 shipped. It is all the child kits that seem to be higher than normal, but not that much higher compared to a set like Carbon. But people can still get a TKL or standard 60% keyboard filled for about $100. I guess the negativity is about pricing. This is already a successful group buy in terms of orders, I just don't see why there is so much bad blood going around.

[Techno Trousers]

A TKL+novelties+arrows is north of $200 shipped right now. I need to do some soul searching. I know I'll regret it if I don't jump in, but damn.

I think the TKL (black alphas + normal mods) is $109 shipped. It is all the child kits that seem to be higher than normal, but not that much higher compared to a set like Carbon. But people can still get a TKL or standard 60% keyboard filled for about $100. I guess the negativity is about pricing. This is already a successful group buy in terms of orders, I just don't see why there is so much bad blood going around.

You're right, thanks. Either prices have hit lower price points since I first tried, or I had made a mistake in picking my sets. It looks like it's in line with other SA sets now. TKL+arrows+novelties is $162 shipped.

[jimirolln]

So Pulse is now live on Massdrop ... is there a GB thread yet?

They banned Mito on here. So... no. I guess someone else could make one, but you know.

this might sound crazy but i don't think they would let anyone...i would imagine by the treatment of the md ic's that gh gb's are not considered in the same cat...i think they will end up not locking the ic...it does seam a little messy...but i looked and couldn't see banned n e where...if that is true i must admit it to be a little disheartening...but after seeing some of your comments on the poster thread ima take with a grain of salt...no offense...but ur av reads n e thn but intellectual super star

[xondat]

So Pulse is now live on Massdrop ... is there a GB thread yet?

They banned Mito on here. So... no. I guess someone else could make one, but you know.

Proof? Sounds like you're starting something unnecessary.

[SpAmRaY]

So Pulse is now live on Massdrop ... is there a GB thread yet?

They banned Mito on here. So... no. I guess someone else could make one, but you know.

Proof? Sounds like you're starting something unnecessary.

They need more sales and drama = traffic

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[Vigrith]

Proof? Sounds like you're starting something unnecessary.

What would I be starting? Someone asked a question, I answered. I don't think I need to forward any kind of proof or justify myself for relaying information pertinent to a question someone asked. Maybe he can come forward and confirm/deny, seems he's been pretty quiet since the introduction of the Noir kits a month ago.

PS: I think this thread being active is an infringement of the rules, not sure why a mod hasn't locked it yet. Or Mito, if he can.

[jimirolln]

jesus christ this bit...i used to think that was the thirsty face...now i know it's the lame face you make when tryna get someones thread locked

[EightDiagram]

[Signature]

Yes MiTo is banned from GH for bothing making alts (we have proof via IP) and for harrassing staff members via those alts.

[elfick]

Yes MiTo is banned from GH for bothing making alts (we have proof via IP) and for harrassing staff members via those alts.

IP isn't proof. It's circumstantial at best. What if someone else was simply using the same computer?

[jimirolln]

mito said peace out

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66241.msg1550068.msg#1550068

no reason to debate it w sig...he is not mod team...let it go

[elfick]

mito said peace out

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66241.msg1550068.msg#1550068

no reason to debate it w sig...he is not mod team...let it go

Wow... you're impressive.
First, did you check the timestamps in that thread. It's from years ago and even the last post in that thread is from last year... long before the first post in this thread.
Secondly, Sig *IS* on the mod team. It says so right there under his name.

[xondat]

Yes MiTo is banned from GH for bothing making alts (we have proof via IP) and for harrassing staff members via those alts.

Ah, good old MiTo.

I think the best farewell message would be: Godspeed!

 )

[jimirolln]

mito said peace out

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66241.msg1550068.msg#1550068

no reason to debate it w sig...he is not mod team...let it go

Wow... you're impressive.
First, did you check the timestamps in that thread. It's from years ago and even the last post in that thread is from last year... long before the first post in this thread.
Secondly, Sig *IS* on the mod team. It says so right there under his name.

no i did not check the time stamp...is and on a team is a stretch...and it is a non starter regardless...but i will stand down and let you crusade to bring some one back to a community they may not even be inclined to come back to...maybe you can set up some meetings w mod team and hold a hearing pleading your case...im dead...gg...good luck

[Vigrith]

Ah, good old MiTo.

I think the best farewell message would be: Godspeed!

 )

Suppose people don't ever change ey.

Or do they?

Would've thought someone who's been on the internet for so many years and from such a young age would be aware of how IPs and forums work and would not endanger what is a big part of their life to insult someone who can impact or entirely halt his participation in a relevant channel.

Quirky situation is it not, usually you know which side of a conundrum like this you can put your faith on.

And again, shouldn't this thread be closed down? The issue of Mito not closing his Laser thread at the appropriate time being brought up as a big issue that led to conflict and/or warnings at the time/later on. I'm not trying to call out Signature (whom I believe to be a good guy and appropriate for the position of an actual mod) on not doing his job, I'm just saying firstly consistency is important to not appear biased and secondly permanating the circlejerk when only one side of the corral is able to defend themselves is hardly proper in any case.

[jimirolln]

that feeln you get when you see something so cringe it hurts...this is not high school...but part of me wants mod team to lock it just to imagine the gasm face you'd make at the thought of your only contribution to the community

[Signature]

Yes this is a touchy subject, however my only purpose was to inform that he was indeed banned, but feel free to send me a pm!

Please continue the discussion on the keyset

[jimirolln]

those runes tho...am i right...lul

[Photoelectric]

Yes MiTo is banned from GH for bothing making alts (we have proof via IP) and for harrassing staff members via those alts.

IP isn't proof. It's circumstantial at best. What if someone else was simply using the same computer?

That was an oversimplification of many reasons (over few years) for which he was banned.  Also, to clear a misconception, when we look at potential alt accounts, we don't only take IP addresses into consideration.

Thread locked due to the group buy being open on Massdrop.