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Title: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 25 January 2013, 03:29:54
I've been working on this for the past few months and this is what I have so far. It's nearly done but I still have to refine some stuff.

top view with some edge lines
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/assembly.png)


bottom view without any reference edge lines
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/assembly2.png)

Color-coded by parts, and next to a matching concept GHkeyad
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH60withGHpad_4.png)


Color-coded by parts, concept GH70 (GH60 + GHkeypad)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_2.png)


What this design allows:

1) compatibility with all 60% layout - includes poker, pure, and upcoming GH60

2) integrated plate - there will be a plate that screws into the bottom piece of the main case.

3) removable switches - the plate allows for removal of the top switch housing without desoldering. The plate design also allows for rotated switches to be removed. You'll also have the option to choose between costar stabilizers, PCB-mounted stabilizers, or plate-mounted stabilizers. Refer to HERE (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg773845#msg773845) for more info.

4) modular top cover - The top cover has 3 different designs, allows you to choose a winkeyless cover, HHKB style, or standard full keys

5) optional plate - The PCB can be mounted into the case without a plate, made possible by the 5 screw-in standoffs. This was for people that prefer PCB bottom-out feeling.

6) compatibility with the older poker plate - The PCB/plate combo is a direct drop-in without any mods. The old plate won't be able to screw into the case, but you can still screw this PCB/plate combo down to the standoffs.

7) (maybe) optional brass discs - You can add different numbers of brass discs at the bottom to make the case heavier, or take them all off for a lighter case. Any amount up to 4.


more details and description later....
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 25 January 2013, 03:32:38
I like!  ;D

Now whats lacking is the GH60 within  :))
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: dirge on Fri, 25 January 2013, 03:34:23
Put me down for one :) also ISO plate option ;)

Would having the case longer at the front for wrist rest be something people like?
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Turbo Slaab on Fri, 25 January 2013, 03:35:20
Nice man!
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: singaporean123 on Fri, 25 January 2013, 04:04:26
FREAKING AWESOME
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 25 January 2013, 04:15:33
Nice Job!  Those winkeyless blocks look huge in the picture haha.
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: hoggy on Fri, 25 January 2013, 04:16:58
I'd love one of those!
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: eon on Fri, 25 January 2013, 04:38:12
4) modular top cover that can be chosen to support standard layouts, winkeyless, or HHKB.

Very nice, meaning there will be multiple top covers available ?
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: developej on Fri, 25 January 2013, 05:02:20
am i missing something? pure has 4 modifiers to the right of space, and i see only 3 holes here? also, pure has '~' key right of the RSHIFT, and there is no hole for it on this pic
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: dirge on Fri, 25 January 2013, 05:09:59
am i missing something? pure has 4 modifiers to the right of space, and i see only 3 holes here? also, pure has '~' key right of the RSHIFT, and there is no hole for it on this pic

Think he's only posted a pic of what a winkeyless top would look like.  I'm sure other case tops would be available if this comes to production.
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 25 January 2013, 07:02:31
Think he's only posted a pic of what a winkeyless top would look like.  I'm sure other case tops would be available WHEN this comes to production.
Let me fix that for you.....I hope  :p

I'm in for one or two as long as they are not available for a couple months unless someone purchases my Tamron lens for Canon DSLR.
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: phetto on Fri, 25 January 2013, 07:11:15
Very nice..
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: regack on Fri, 25 January 2013, 07:23:21
TAKE ALL MY MONEY NOW!!!!

(translation : It's a very faithful and beautiful design.  I like how it stays true to the original simple case design, but takes into account so many variations and improvements.  Now, the added bonus to doing all this work, is that it might be adapted to work with the GHpad (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38963.0)  :D )
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: boost on Fri, 25 January 2013, 08:14:20
THAT IS NICE!!!!!!!!

Can't wait to see the prototype ^_^
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 25 January 2013, 08:26:47
Beautiful. I need two, please. :) One WKL, one HHKB.
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: singaporean123 on Fri, 25 January 2013, 08:56:23
I'm curious as to how much these may cost. I hope it will be under 340 usd
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: TDub on Fri, 25 January 2013, 09:10:48
Looks very good! Definitely would like 2 of those for the 2 GH60s i am going to order :)
Title: Re: Aluminum case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 25 January 2013, 11:36:02
Every line and cut will add to the cost, so I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible without making it look too boring (ie, just a tray). I think Beast is done with is case design too, so I'm sure he can contribute to the design.


Nice Job!  Those winkeyless blocks look huge in the picture haha.

Because we're all so use to seeing blocks on TKL size cases. The frame on these are smaller so the block to frame size ratio will be different. The winkeyless block and the standoffs look out of proportion to me too.


Now, the added bonus to doing all this work, is that it might be adapted to work with the GHpad (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38963.0)  :D )

I could consider it, but as of right now, there's no finished PCB or dimensions to work from. I already have a poker, pure, and prototype GH60 PCB to reference to.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Sai on Fri, 25 January 2013, 11:55:23
price pls or a guess pls :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 25 January 2013, 12:01:46
One million billion $$.

Honestly I don't know. This is still in design phase, so notice how it's not in the IC or GB subforum yet. The simple imsto/oneproduct aluminum trays were $100, and the duck poker case was $280. The design of this is a tad more complicated than duck poker, but I don't think it should be higher than $280.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: mashby on Fri, 25 January 2013, 12:14:11
Honestly I don't know. This is still in design phase, so notice how it's not in the IC or GB subforum yet. The simple imsto/oneproduct aluminum trays were $100, and the duck poker case was $280. The design of this is a tad more complicated than duck poker, but I don't think it should be higher than $280.

I'm looking down at my Pure and I just don't see how the top of the case would fit, but I love the idea. This is fantastic work.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Sai on Fri, 25 January 2013, 12:21:38
I agree. anything is still possible at this stage. just wishing for a good one. :)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 25 January 2013, 12:24:47
I'm looking down at my Pure and I just don't see how the top of the case would fit, but I love the idea. This is fantastic work.

The example shown won't fit, it's designed for a different layout specific to the GH60.  However WFD has alternate designs with no blocking to suit the Pure or GH60 in Pure layout.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 25 January 2013, 12:25:44
Then you probably missed this part:

Quote
4) modular top cover that can be chosen to support standard layouts, winkeyless, or HHKB.

Poker and pure can only fit in a top cover without the winkeyless block. The one in the current picture can only fit a plate for 1.5x modifiers, which only a GH60 PCB can support. The end design will have different top covers and plates available (hence why it's "modular"), but the bottom case will be the same for all keyboards.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: mashby on Fri, 25 January 2013, 12:38:34
Then you probably missed this part:

Quote
4) modular top cover that can be chosen to support standard layouts, winkeyless, or HHKB.

Poker and pure can only fit in a top cover without the winkeyless block. The one in the current picture can only fit a plate for 1.5x modifiers, which only a GH60 PCB can support. The end design will have different top covers and plates available (hence why it's "modular"), but the bottom case will be the same for all keyboards.

Yeah, I realize it'll have a different top, but given the layout, wouldn't just be a rim around the bottom tray since the Pure is just a pile of keys.  :confused:
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 25 January 2013, 12:57:35
I think you finally understand how it works. Yup, poker or pure, or any other layout that is not winkeyless will have only a cover that's literally just a rim that screws down to the case. That block in the pic is what covers the windows key. For a HHKB layout, those blocks are slightly enlarged and moved to the bottom corners to cover the CTRL.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: sordna on Fri, 25 January 2013, 21:02:29
When do you expect to have a prototype in your hands?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 25 January 2013, 21:04:59
Looks nice WFD. The Winkeyless blocks look a bit thick, but nonetheless good. :)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Shadovved on Fri, 25 January 2013, 21:05:05
Any ETA on the design outcome? :))
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Cobertt on Fri, 25 January 2013, 21:25:16
This is a really sweet design, nice work!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 26 January 2013, 02:12:53
Put me down for one in my plate option.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Caaaarrrt on Sat, 26 January 2013, 02:37:24
This looks pretty awesome, I'll be watching it closely
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 26 January 2013, 07:32:43
Looks nice WFD. The Winkeyless blocks look a bit thick, but nonetheless good. :)

Hmm maybe because of the angle? Here's the same case with parts color-coded, and at a different angle:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_colorcoded.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/colorcoded.png)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Batmann on Sat, 26 January 2013, 07:40:19
^This right here just exposed you to multi color case request!
and nice work WFD
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: dirge on Sat, 26 January 2013, 08:00:45
Looks nice WFD. The Winkeyless blocks look a bit thick, but nonetheless good. :)

They'll be ontop of the plate so no issue.

How does the plate screw in?  Can't see how that connects to either the top or bottom.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 26 January 2013, 20:42:20
Aha, it seems to have been just the angle. Thanks for the different view. :)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Aleksander on Sun, 27 January 2013, 02:32:03
Interested in one with ISO-plate
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: 4LI4Z on Sun, 27 January 2013, 12:41:21
The perfect case for the GH60! Does the plate allow to open the rotated switches on the GH60 too?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sun, 27 January 2013, 12:52:27
would love one! My wallet is slightly empty atm so i would def get in a month or 2 when the gh60 goes into GB mode & such
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: GoatMaster on Sun, 27 January 2013, 13:09:00
nice job! i am looking forward for some news.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 27 January 2013, 13:32:36
There's no way I can afford this, but I'm going to keep my eye on it as I love the idea.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Loligagger on Sun, 27 January 2013, 13:48:51
How does the plate screw in?  Can't see how that connects to either the top or bottom.

I'd like to know this as well. Seems like the bezel is too thin for tabs on the plate to screw into the base.

Also, is the base at the same angle as the stock poker/pure cases? Any possibility for standoffs?
Title: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 27 January 2013, 14:59:07
There are standoffs. You can see them in the original image. That's how this is also compatible with Poker and Pure PCBs.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Loligagger on Sun, 27 January 2013, 15:03:48
Standoffs as in on the bottom of the case to change the angle of the board (probably should have used better wording).
Title: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 27 January 2013, 15:06:09
Oh, feet. :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 27 January 2013, 15:42:31
Here is the same case with a different top cover, this is the Happy Hacking Keyboard style. The cherry MX version of the HHKB, but this will only be possible with the upcoming GH60 layout options. The current poker or pure does not support 1.5x bottom modifiers to pair up with this HHKB block style.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_colorcoded2.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/colorcoded2.png)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: mashby on Sun, 27 January 2013, 15:52:16
Here is the same case with a different top cover, this is the Happy Hacking Keyboard style.

This is brilliant. I think you've really out done yourself for 60% cases. Fantastic work and I can't wait to buy one.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 27 January 2013, 15:54:53
Given my desire to get a GH60, I'd have to get one of these to go with it. 

Nice work!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 27 January 2013, 16:07:14
A more detailed description of the feature that I'll also copy/paste to the OP:


1) compatibility with all 60% layout - includes poker, pure, and upcoming GH60

2) integrated plate - there will be a plate that screws into the bottom piece of the main case.

3) removable switches - the plate allows for removal of the top switch housing without desoldering. The plate design also allows for rotated switches to be removed. You'll also have the option to choose between costar stabilizers, PCB-mounted stabilizers, or plate-mounted stabilizers. Refer to HERE (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg773845#msg773845) for more info.

4) modular top cover - The top cover has 3 different designs, allows you to choose a winkeyless cover, HHKB style, or standard full keys

5) optional plate - The PCB can be mounted into the case without a plate, made possible by the 5 screw-in standoffs. This will satisfy people that hate plate-mounted PCBs.

6) compatibility with the older poker plate - The PCB/plate combo is a direct drop-in without any mods. The old plate won't be able to screw into the case, but you can still screw this PCB/plate combo down to the standoffs.




How does the plate screw in?  Can't see how that connects to either the top or bottom.
I'd like to know this as well. Seems like the bezel is too thin for tabs on the plate to screw into the base.

Also, is the base at the same angle as the stock poker/pure cases? Any possibility for standoffs?

There are small recessed edges around the whole inner rim that the plate sits on. Technically don't need any tabs, but there are also 4 tabs to screw the plate into the case. The upper cover will screw into the main bottom piece, screw going from bottom up so the holes and screws won't be visible.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_platemounting.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/platemounting.png)

I don't know if it's the same angle as the stock poker/pure case. I designed the case with reference to the PCB measurements, not the stock case.


Lastly, guys this is not an order thread lol. No ETA at the moment, it's last on my priority list. I still need to take care of all the current GB stuff, pending keyboards I have to do, and GH prototype first.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 27 January 2013, 23:33:15
Circular cuts for brass disc inserts to add weight. Kinda looks like a DJ table  :D


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/disccuts.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/disccuts.png)


A thick rectangular plate/bar made of brass can fit a larger volume, but I think they're much more expensive than the same amount of volume manufactured in discs. That's why I did circle cuts instead of one long rectangular cut. I think the machining time to do round cuts is also less than a straight rectangular one. Does anyone actually know?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WRXChris on Sun, 27 January 2013, 23:41:04
I'm loving the modular case design!  Great job WFD, looking forward to one of these and the GH60!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: regack on Mon, 28 January 2013, 06:35:09
Circular cuts for brass disc inserts to add weight. Kinda looks like a DJ table  :D

[image removed]

A thick rectangular plate/bar made of brass can fit a larger volume, but I think they're much more expensive than the same amount of volume manufactured in discs. That's why I did circle cuts instead of one long rectangular cut. I think the machining time to do round cuts is also less than a straight rectangular one. Does anyone actually know?

Possibly, but that is probably because with a circular area, they can use whatever diameter tool can fit in the circle... if it's rectangular, they'll have to switch to a smaller tool to radius the corners... unless you made it more like a rectangle with semi-circle ends...
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: alaricljs on Mon, 28 January 2013, 09:28:23
Rectangular brass:  http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=1599&step=4&showunits=inches&id=1116&top_cat=79

No idea where to get off the shelf discs.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: mashby on Mon, 28 January 2013, 09:54:33
Having switched my Pure to the Duck Poker case, I really like the added weight the brass inserts provide. Love that you're looking to include this in your case.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 30 January 2013, 07:30:38
The GH60 case is pretty much done, and the GHpad is still in concept phase until the PCB is planned out. Both of the cases are a matching pair and can be placed side-by-side. I'll put this pic in the OP as well. It's color coded by parts for easier viewing:

blue = main bottom piece
red = plate
purple = top cover
yellow = brass weights
green = standoffs

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH60withGHpad_4.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/?action=view&current=GH60withGHpad_4.png)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH60withGHpad_3.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/?action=view&current=GH60withGHpad_3.png)




Rectangular brass:  link (http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=1599&step=4&showunits=inches&id=1116&top_cat=79)

No idea where to get off the shelf discs.

I was actually looking at that same site. I was thinking of getting a long bar with 2" and 1.25" diameters and having the metal shop cut them into discs. Buying individual discs might be too expensive.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: dirge on Wed, 30 January 2013, 08:44:03
This is looking incredible please make this real.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: ishumprod on Wed, 30 January 2013, 08:45:43
Hi !

i was actually looking for this on google right now, and saw this thread while browsing GH..

i wonder if this is made on solidworks, and if it is, could it be possible for me to get the .str file ?

i have a CNC mill and a charlyrobot that i can use, so i could get the prototype in little time =)

( i have acess to the machines thanks to my studies, i work on a thecnical school.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 30 January 2013, 08:53:47
I was actually looking at that same site. I was thinking of getting a long bar with 2" and 1.25" diameters and having the metal shop cut them into discs. Buying individual discs might be too expensive.

Hmm, funny thing is I was looking for round bars, and completely skipped over "Round Bar"  wth?   Anyhow, these guys do cutting, and you can special request better tolerances, however they don't go through any effort to machine cut, it's just a chop-saw.  ~$2.50/pc in material for 2" x .25" discs out of a 1ft raw bar.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: regack on Wed, 30 January 2013, 12:09:12
The GH60 case is pretty much done, and the GHpad is still in concept phase until the PCB is planned out. Both of the cases are a matching pair and can be placed side-by-side.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH60withGHpad_4.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/?action=view&current=GH60withGHpad_4.png)

WFD, this is fantastic!!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 30 January 2013, 12:53:13
The GH60 case is pretty much done, and the GHpad is still in concept phase until the PCB is planned out. Both of the cases are a matching pair and can be placed side-by-side.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH60withGHpad_4.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/?action=view&current=GH60withGHpad_4.png)

WFD, this is fantastic!!
Indeed, just a shame I probably can't afford it.
But maybe if 1000 are sold...:D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 30 January 2013, 16:57:52
Or maybe someone might organize a little donation in the form of a WFD case to the person who did all the hard work in designing the very basis for this AWESOME case's existence? I think that might be arranged...
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: mashby on Wed, 30 January 2013, 16:58:40
Or maybe someone might organize a little donation in the form of a WFD case to the person who did all the hard work in designing the very basis for this AWESOME case's existence? I think that might be arranged...

Count me in for that.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:03:48
Or maybe someone might organize a little donation in the form of a WFD case to the person who did all the hard work in designing the very basis for this AWESOME case's existence? I think that might be arranged...

Count me in for that.

I'll donate to that cause ^_^
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: asura on Wed, 30 January 2013, 17:40:04
A thick rectangular plate/bar made of brass can fit a larger volume, but I think they're much more expensive than the same amount of volume manufactured in discs. That's why I did circle cuts instead of one long rectangular cut. I think the machining time to do round cuts is also less than a straight rectangular one. Does anyone actually know?



No idea where to get off the shelf discs.

Agreed - sheet and standard cast/rolled stock are pretty easy to get, discs not so much.  Just compare "brass square bar" and "brass disc" in your search engine of choice.  Discs might look cuter and distrubute the mass more evenly, but they're harder to find.  What sort of depth is available for ballast?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: sordna on Wed, 30 January 2013, 18:04:36
Why go with the round holes? Make it a rectangle, so folks can easily fill them in with strips of lead or whatever material they decide... although probably most folks wouldn't bother to add weight to the keyboard, it still will be heavier than a stock poker or pure.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 30 January 2013, 18:09:39
Or maybe someone might organize a little donation in the form of a WFD case to the person who did all the hard work in designing the very basis for this AWESOME case's existence? I think that might be arranged...

Count me in for that.

I'll donate to that cause ^_^
Wow, thanks!
But seriously, maybe I just won't buy that realforce:D
+ I'll have some buffer from the GH60 groupbuy, so don't worry. I will have these cases, that's for sure:)
Title: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: aggiejy on Wed, 30 January 2013, 20:25:49
Or maybe someone might organize a little donation in the form of a WFD case to the person who did all the hard work in designing the very basis for this AWESOME case's existence? I think that might be arranged...

I'm in!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 30 January 2013, 21:29:15
Hmm, funny thing is I was looking for round bars, and completely skipped over "Round Bar"  wth?   Anyhow, these guys do cutting, and you can special request better tolerances, however they don't go through any effort to machine cut, it's just a chop-saw.  ~$2.50/pc in material for 2" x .25" discs out of a 1ft raw bar.

Man it's like you peered right into my computer or something. How did you know the brass discs were exactly 0.25" deep? Or that's some really good guestimate based on how deep it looks in the pic. Anyways, it's $2.50 for material only, any good guestimates on the labor of cutting them? I guess I'll go shopping for material at a later time.


Why go with the round holes? Make it a rectangle, so folks can easily fill them in with strips of lead or whatever material they decide... although probably most folks wouldn't bother to add weight to the keyboard, it still will be heavier than a stock poker or pure.

Actually, I think majority prefer heavier. I know you hang around the ergonomic section mostly, but if you venture into these novel item area (cases, keycaps, korean keyboards, etc), you'll realize heavier/thicker = more desirable.


i wonder if this is made on solidworks, and if it is, could it be possible for me to get the .str file ?
i have a CNC mill and a charlyrobot that i can use, so i could get the prototype in little time =)
( i have acess to the machines thanks to my studies, i work on a thecnical school.

I may take you up on this, although you're all the way in Switzerland makes things a little harder. And also I don't want to sound like an elitist or anything, but you're still a relatively new member and all....
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: noxwood on Thu, 31 January 2013, 00:32:27
> Actually, I think majority prefer heavier. I know you hang around the ergonomic section mostly, but if you venture into these novel item area (cases, keycaps, korean keyboards, etc), you'll realize heavier/thicker = more desirable.

Definitely, although once it gets too heavy it starts to throw the portability out the window.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: ishumprod on Thu, 31 January 2013, 03:48:11

I may take you up on this, although you're all the way in Switzerland makes things a little harder. And also I don't want to sound like an elitist or anything, but you're still a relatively new member and all....

i understand it :), it was with intentions to help, and i also wanted to have a serious piece to make so i can see how good it goes, maybe do some more to help peolple in europe ( you aren't in eurpoe are you ?)

i don't have lots of knowledge on the keyboard subject, but i think every bit is something :)

anyways good luck on this ;)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: simkev on Thu, 31 January 2013, 07:56:25
Show Image
The GH60 case is pretty much done, and the GHpad is still in concept phase until the PCB is planned out. Both of the cases are a matching pair and can be placed side-by-side. I'll put this pic in the OP as well. It's color coded by parts for easier viewing:

blue = main bottom piece
red = plate
purple = top cover
yellow = brass weights
green = standoffs

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH60withGHpad_4.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/?action=view&current=GH60withGHpad_4.png)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH60withGHpad_3.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/?action=view&current=GH60withGHpad_3.png)




Rectangular brass:  link (http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=1599&step=4&showunits=inches&id=1116&top_cat=79)

No idea where to get off the shelf discs.

I was actually looking at that same site. I was thinking of getting a long bar with 2" and 1.25" diameters and having the metal shop cut them into discs. Buying individual discs might be too expensive.
Looking really nice, how thick is the top cover?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 31 January 2013, 09:37:55
I am more excited about GH60 and GHpad coming to fruition than Korean customs. I hope they will be widely available even if it takes months for production, and dealing with waiting lists.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 31 January 2013, 10:30:43
TAKE MY MONEY!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: leesofi on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:12:20
i think G H 6 0 is better than nomal circles.
it same as duck poker case. lol.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Binge on Thu, 31 January 2013, 12:57:34
As a supporter of the GH60 I really want to see this come to pass.  While heaviness is nice I would prefer the bottom to be as non-slip as possible.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: aggiejy on Thu, 31 January 2013, 13:32:59
How does the angle of this case without feet compare to the angle of a Filco without feet?  Some things like the RACE I hate because the angle is too steep out of the box.
Title: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 January 2013, 14:11:15
Looks like an exact copy of the Poker case bottom, so I would guess the angle is the same.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 31 January 2013, 14:50:07
I don't know what the angle of the Filco is, or the angle of the stock poker case. I just designed it based on what feels right, but they do look similar. Does anyone actually know the angle of the poker case? I don't have a protractor with me to measure it.


Or maybe someone might organize a little donation in the form of a WFD case to the person who did all the hard work in designing the very basis for this AWESOME case's existence? I think that might be arranged...

I was going to suggest this when the GB/IC thread starts. Mr komar should get whatever his heart desires, and his heart desires one of these cases, regardless of cost.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 31 January 2013, 14:50:44
I think they are about 7 degrees. At least that's what Beast uses for his rests, IIRC.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 31 January 2013, 15:07:57
I think they are about 7 degrees. At least that's what Beast uses for his rests, IIRC.

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Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 31 January 2013, 16:10:06
Oh, whoops, thanks.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: simkev on Thu, 31 January 2013, 16:22:02
Will the PCB standoffs be milled out of the bottom piece or will they be screwed in? Which are the size of the screws used in the poker and pure to secure the PCB to the standoffs, M2, M2.5? Might be hard to find standoffs in that size. Also what is the thickness of the top piece, the one that is available in three different options?
Title: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 January 2013, 16:30:35
Poker screws are M2 x 4mm. I found that out by trial and error after ordering some #2-56 x 5/32 screws.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: HannibalChew on Fri, 01 February 2013, 07:44:28
If i get a GH60 this is definitely the case i want! It looks awesome!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 01 February 2013, 11:15:29
I really want that numpad too! Gah that thing is just beautiful.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 February 2013, 11:45:37
WFD, I plan to use Cherry plate mount stabilizers with my GH60 plate, so could you include the opening all the way across the spacebar area between the inserts so I can insert the stabilizer bar when assembling.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: simkev on Fri, 01 February 2013, 16:03:11
WFD, I plan to use Cherry plate mount stabilizers with my GH60 plate, so could you include the opening all the way across the spacebar area between the inserts so I can insert the stabilizer bar when assembling.

Thanks!
shouldn't the bar go under the plate or have I gotten everything wrong?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 February 2013, 17:12:23
With Cherry plate mount stabilizers, if there is no horizontal opening, you can't fit the bar under the plate to fit in the stabilizer inserts. I didn't understand it at first, but if you try it a few times, you can see how the stab inserts tilt into their openings. If there is no opening for the spacebar wire, you have to use either PCB mount Cherry stabs or Costar stabs.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: simkev on Fri, 01 February 2013, 17:45:38
With Cherry plate mount stabilizers, if there is no horizontal opening, you can't fit the bar under the plate to fit in the stabilizer inserts. I didn't understand it at first, but if you try it a few times, you can see how the stab inserts tilt into their openings. If there is no opening for the spacebar wire, you have to use either PCB mount Cherry stabs or Costar stabs.
OK
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 01 February 2013, 19:11:40
i think G H 6 0 is better than nomal circles.
it same as duck poker case. lol.

I know english is not your native language, but can you rephrase? I'm guessing you're saying GH60 should have a better design than just the circular weights, otherwise it'll just be the same as duck poker? I take everything into consideration when designing this to try to accommodate to mostly everyone.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 01 February 2013, 19:13:57
WFD, I plan to use Cherry plate mount stabilizers with my GH60 plate, so could you include the opening all the way across the spacebar area between the inserts so I can insert the stabilizer bar when assembling.
With Cherry plate mount stabilizers, if there is no horizontal opening, you can't fit the bar under the plate to fit in the stabilizer inserts. I didn't understand it at first, but if you try it a few times, you can see how the stab inserts tilt into their openings. If there is no opening for the spacebar wire, you have to use either PCB mount Cherry stabs or Costar stabs.


It's not a design flaw, I intentionally didn't put in that extra cut you're talking about. I think you just overlooked something very obvious: you can install the plate-mounted cherry stabilizer and wires from bottom up  ;)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 01 February 2013, 19:54:56
Ok, 1) I think the G H 6 0 dude wants those letters carved into the case bottom instead of circles...
2) you can get away without the wire slot on the space bar, it only requires that you install the plastic pieces without the wire and then carefully slip the wire in from the edge of the assembly between the pcb/plate.  The only board I have seen this not work is pokers where they put the wire on the inboard side of the space bar.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: leesofi on Sat, 02 February 2013, 11:28:05
Sorry about my short english skill.
you understand what i wrote. :D
"G H 6 0" shape weight have no problem to making, i think. (but price will more expensive that compare to circle.)
Imitation precedes creation but i hope GH60 project have its own style.
 
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: leesofi on Sat, 02 February 2013, 11:48:08
like this.
(http://i.imgur.com/5jtSatO.png)
 
 
aha....
screw will be problem..
G,H,6 is fine but 0.. will be problem with screw.
anyone have better idea?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: mashby on Sat, 02 February 2013, 12:15:27
Woah.  :eek:

That might be crazy expensive, but it's definitely cool.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 02 February 2013, 13:39:34
leesofi, that looks great, although extremely expensive to carve that out in both the case and the brass weights. Although that looks uber cool, I don't think spending that much is a wise way to delegate budget, especially for a part that won't be seen after everything is installed. Also, I'm trying to tailor this case to poker and pure, not just GH60.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: leesofi on Sun, 03 February 2013, 01:03:33
Oh, i see.
Except 60, GH is good too for brass weight.
It will be cool when brassweight is in outside of case(bottom) like 356mini.
Its just personal wish ;)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Index on Wed, 06 February 2013, 04:38:00
Oh man, definitely in this one for a hhkb style.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 06 February 2013, 08:52:25
Oh, i see.
Except 60, GH is good too for brass weight.
It will be cool when brassweight is in outside of case(bottom) like 356mini.
Its just personal wish ;)
That's what I was just about to suggest. It wouldn't make any sense to hide those nice brass weights on the inside. If they are styled as such, they should be on the bottom so they can be admired from time to time.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 10 February 2013, 05:30:09
Ok I haven't touched this stuff for almost 2 weeks because I got too busy, but finally got a chance to design this based on what lyson suggested. This one only took a couple hours since it's just a modified version of the GH60 bottom piece. It's basically a joined GH60 and GHpad, with an area in the middle divider for a wire to connect the two PCBs together. Then only one USB cable going to communicate with the computer.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_4.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_4.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_3.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_3.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_2.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_2.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_1.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_1.png)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 10 February 2013, 07:41:42
Okay, now you're just trying to take ALL my money. Goodbye, wallet!

Seriously, that thing is just beauty. Or sex. Or both.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 10 February 2013, 07:59:17
That's awesome.  I wish I could use Solidworks that well.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Caaaarrrt on Sun, 10 February 2013, 08:05:14
It is awesome, well done WFD. Personally I would prefer the two separate cases, but it's great that this is an option.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: sordna on Sun, 10 February 2013, 10:49:35
Make the 2 cases interlock with some grooves/tabs, and a connector in between :-)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 10 February 2013, 10:51:49
What's the advantage of having a 2 part case? I prefer the design as WFD has it. Keeps the costs down and KISS.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: epicsilas on Sun, 10 February 2013, 11:03:40
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Ok I haven't touched this stuff for almost 2 weeks because I got too busy, but finally got a chance to design this based on what lyson suggested. This one only took a couple hours since it's just a modified version of the GH60 bottom piece. It's basically a joined GH60 and GHpad, with an area in the middle divider for a wire to connect the two PCBs together. Then only one USB cable going to communicate with the computer.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_4.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_4.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_3.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_3.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_2.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_2.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_1.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_1.png)
How would this case compare to a tenkeyless keyboard in size?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 10 February 2013, 11:20:42
How would this case compare to a tenkeyless keyboard in size?

Well, lets compare to a KMAC.  Since WFD's design has smaller "margins" around the edge and is so compact, I would guess it is wider than the TKL by a little less than one key row, or perhaps 0.7 inches.  It is also missing a function row, so it would be shorter by perhaps 1 inch.  Thickness is probably about the same.

Overall a very compact and attractive design.  Function row on left side anyone?  :p
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 10 February 2013, 11:45:35
I'd buy this case, the GH 60, plus the tenkey in a heartbeat.  I've become more accustomed to navigating with the tenkey than with the arrow cluster anyways.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Loligagger on Sun, 10 February 2013, 13:26:55
Show Image
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Show Image
Ok I haven't touched this stuff for almost 2 weeks because I got too busy, but finally got a chance to design this based on what lyson suggested. This one only took a couple hours since it's just a modified version of the GH60 bottom piece. It's basically a joined GH60 and GHpad, with an area in the middle divider for a wire to connect the two PCBs together. Then only one USB cable going to communicate with the computer.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_4.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_4.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_3.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_3.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_2.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_2.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_1.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_1.png)

Just take my money. Also I assume it'll be possible to switch from a numpad to the regular arrows/modifier cluster much like the TK does, right?

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Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 10 February 2013, 14:59:08
Just take my money. Also I assume it'll be possible to switch from a numpad to the regular arrows/modifier cluster much like the TK does, right?

Fully programmable! :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 11 February 2013, 00:37:45
How would this case compare to a tenkeyless keyboard in size?

Well, lets compare to a KMAC.  Since WFD's design has smaller "margins" around the edge and is so compact, I would guess it is wider than the TKL by a little less than one key row, or perhaps 0.7 inches.  It is also missing a function row, so it would be shorter by perhaps 1 inch.  Thickness is probably about the same.

Overall a very compact and attractive design.  Function row on left side anyone?  :p

metalliqaz nailed it. This combined case of GH60 + GHpad is 14.8" long, and the KMAC2 I have on me is 14.2". Even though the GH60 + GHpad combo has one extra column of keys,  it's only ever so slightly longer by 0.6" because the rims are smaller, while typical metal cases have THICK rims compared to plastic cases. Basically nearly the same length, but no function row makes it overall more compact than a TKL.

Here is a comparison with a TKL plate, just keep in mind that if this TKL plate was in a metal case, the rims of a TKL would make it even longer.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_comparisonwithTKL.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/comparisonwithTKL.png)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 11 February 2013, 00:41:06
I'd buy this case, the GH 60, plus the tenkey in a heartbeat.  I've become more accustomed to navigating with the tenkey than with the arrow cluster anyways.

How do you know you're going to buy all 3 already without knowing the price?  :))



Just take my money. Also I assume it'll be possible to switch from a numpad to the regular arrows/modifier cluster much like the TK does, right?

Yeah it'll look like that CM TK, except without the function row. Keys are fully programmable, so you can set it up for arrow keys and secondary layer as numbers. This depends on the PCB though.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: AKIMbO on Mon, 11 February 2013, 07:20:53
I'd buy this case, the GH 60, plus the tenkey in a heartbeat.  I've become more accustomed to navigating with the tenkey than with the arrow cluster anyways.

How do you know you're going to buy all 3 already without knowing the price?  :))

I'm watering the money tree in my back yard son!  But seriously, this seems like the first full-out keyboard that Geekhack has/is producing that is on par with the Korean customs and I'd be dumb not to get the whole shabang.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 11 February 2013, 12:29:22
Would it be possible to have them be connectable via the top piece, but actually be two separate pieces, in case we wished to use them separately at will?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 11 February 2013, 12:32:45
Would it be possible to have them be connectable via the top piece, but actually be two separate pieces, in case we wished to use them separately at will?

Genius!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: regack on Mon, 11 February 2013, 16:07:38
Would it be possible to have them be connectable via the top piece, but actually be two separate pieces, in case we wished to use them separately at will?

Genius!

Could cost less/unit if everyone is buying just the same bases.  It's an interesting idea, but with the rounded corners and chamfered edges, it might look pretty goofy with a solid piece across the top holding it together?  I guess the whole thing would grow a little wider by the thickness of the two edges... not that it makes a huge difference...

WFD's design also includes a little cable-routing area to connect them together internal to the case, joining them with the top-plate would mean each unit would have a separate cable... or it would mean additional holes in the side.  Personally I would rather not see additional holes in the individual bases.  Just my opinion though.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 11 February 2013, 19:33:33
Maybe those holes could be from the bottom, and have a routed channel such that they could be connected just the same? Thus, they would not be visible around the sides.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 12 February 2013, 00:48:18
esoomenona, I though about that before I designed the concept GH70 case (joined GH60 + GHkeypad), but the downsides are exactly what regack mentioned. Although having that extra top cover could lock the two bottom piece together is more versatile, here are the "problems":

1) The center divider is really thick because it has to be a combination of both walls

2) There will be 2 separate USB cables going to the computer. If you don't want this, then there needs to be 2 holes cut in each case to have a joined cable, and this is just ugly if the GH60 and GHkeypad are used separately.

3) You'll have to get 3 top covers. Two for the two independent ones in case you want to use the separately, and the large cover to join them

4) The rounded fillet corners in the separate bottom piece force you to also make a rounded cut at the corresponding top cover if you want it to look nice. Even then, that rounded cut in the top cover looks a bit weird when the chamfers are also added. I actually don't think it's even possible to machine that rounded cut.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_5.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_5.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_6.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_6.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_7.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_7.png)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: regack on Tue, 12 February 2013, 07:28:34

4) The rounded fillet corners in the separate bottom piece force you to also make a rounded cut at the corresponding top cover if you want it to look nice. Even then, that rounded cut in the top cover looks a bit weird when the chamfers are also added. I actually don't think it's even possible to machine that rounded cut.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_7.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_7.png)

I didn't think about making that cut, I wouldn't think it would be worth it, and would be a weak spot.  Just curious, but did you make a render where it doesn't have the chamfers in the top cover?   
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 12 February 2013, 10:21:42
Yeah, here it is without the chamfer or rounded fillet to match the two bottom pieces.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_8.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_8.png)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 12 February 2013, 10:30:11
Yeah, here it is without the chamfer or rounded fillet to match the two bottom pieces.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/th_GH70-ASMBL_8.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_8.png)

That's really not bad looking (without the chamfer or fillet). If you're buying both cases anyway, to have a separate GH60 and GHpad, you wouldn't necessarily have to buy another case to have them attached.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 12 February 2013, 10:36:18
I guess it won't bother most people. But little "imperfections" like that, that won't match the bottom will catch my attention. If this were a final production piece, I think I would keep staring at it not knowing what to do haha
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 12 February 2013, 10:39:50
Simply don't round the corners on the cases. Make them sharp, so you could use it as a cutting tool if you needed to. :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: regack on Tue, 12 February 2013, 12:10:39
I guess it won't bother most people. But little "imperfections" like that, that won't match the bottom will catch my attention. If this were a final production piece, I think I would keep staring at it not knowing what to do haha

Personally, it would drive me nuts.  I'd KNOW it's there, and I'd then look at it, and it would bother me.  Actually, even the version with the top chamfered there would drive me nuts, becuase I would still see it as two pieces... because the bottoms would be nicely rounded and all.  But that's just me, other people might think it's just fine.

I'd rather have two separate cases with shallow round dots machined out of the sidewall (between the keyboards, but on the inside) and have the cases attract each other with neodymium magnets.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: cobraj on Thu, 14 February 2013, 00:27:16
Is the brass disc idea still a go?
Only a few things in this world feel better in your hands than a heavy solid case =D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: cobraj on Tue, 19 February 2013, 00:01:55
Also, any idea when production time would be about haha?
Not sure if I should wait for this masterpiece or waste money on something else haha :P
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 20 February 2013, 02:04:37
Soon hopefully. I want to finish up GB obligations first before spending time with getting this made.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: cobraj on Wed, 20 February 2013, 05:36:28
Soon hopefully. I want to finish up GB obligations first before spending time with getting this made.

In the meantime, I shall eagerly await =D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: vorn on Wed, 20 February 2013, 06:57:01
I'm in for at least 3!! :) Are you going to consolidate your plate design over separate group buys for people not interested in the cases?

Thanks for all your hard work! Looking forward to the GB!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: agodinhost on Tue, 26 February 2013, 17:47:53
Ohhh my god, my wife will kill me!!!

Translation:
Awesome case, congrats!
I'm in for one (I'm poor 8-)

PS: any chance to get the cad files??? please???
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Strelok on Wed, 06 March 2013, 14:17:06
I'm checking around to see if there is interest for expansion boards for the GH60. The one agodinhost and I are currently conceptualizing requires a breakout PCB and a thin LiPo battery to sit under the GH60 PCB in the case. We may have some run with the next revision of the GH60 Prototype PCB.

Any chance your case design could be modified to have space for expansion boards that have significant interest?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 07 March 2013, 00:32:56
Yeah I can work with you guys to tweak it a tad to fit the extra components. But you'll have to finalize dimensions and exact location first. It's not cheap to mill out those areas only to find out the extra cost was for nothing.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: cobraj on Thu, 07 March 2013, 03:42:01
Everyone this appears in my "Show new replies to post" and I see WFD post.. I think it's him saying production is starting soon.

But alas. The wait goes on :(
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Strelok on Thu, 07 March 2013, 09:17:04
Yeah I can work with you guys to tweak it a tad to fit the extra components. But you'll have to finalize dimensions and exact location first. It's not cheap to mill out those areas only to find out the extra cost was for nothing.

Once the prototype is done we will decide on the form factor we want to use, that will probably be designed with the next GH60 prototype run.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: agodinhost on Thu, 07 March 2013, 17:59:25
Yup, it would be way easier for me with the cad files (I don't have any compatible case).
Any chance?

Only the internal dimensions aren't enough because of the horizontal reenforce lines and the screw holes.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 09 March 2013, 16:44:57
I'll probably start sending out request for prototype quotes sometimes next week, and may revise it based on the quotes I get back. First one is grey/titanium-anodized aluminum case, red-anodized aluminum plates, and brass discs. Second one is red-anodized aluminum case, stainless steel plate, and brass discs.

Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 09 March 2013, 16:47:28
Yup, it would be way easier for me with the cad files (I don't have any compatible case).
Any chance?

If I do make the CAD files public, it won't be at least until the GB or prototype is done, unless you want a very expensive useless prototype. Depending on how fast you guys can finalize GH60 prototype round2, I might be able to wait to add those dimensions in.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 March 2013, 16:59:27
I'll probably start sending out request for prototype quotes sometimes next week, and may revise it based on the quotes I get back. First one is grey/titanium-anodized aluminum case, red-anodized aluminum plates, and brass discs. Second one is red-anodized aluminum case, stainless steel plate, and brass discs.

Those renders are looking super hot WhiteFireDragon. If you need help checking over the drawings, let me know.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 09 March 2013, 18:55:27
Must acquire!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: agodinhost on Sat, 09 March 2013, 19:25:14
Depending on how fast you guys can finalize GH60 prototype round2, I might be able to wait to add those dimensions in.
It will take a while, I'm still wiring all modules together to run a concept test ...
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: noxwood on Sat, 09 March 2013, 22:14:58
Will there be an option in the combined caes to put the tenkeypad on the left?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Wraul on Sun, 10 March 2013, 13:51:12
Very impressive work. I'm so looking forward to this.
Weight and solidity is one of the things that makes the Korean customs so incredible.
This case will bring the GH60 to the same level.

1. I might have missed this but do we have an expected weight for this case?
2. Will we be able to buy one bottom and multiple tops?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: badcop on Mon, 11 March 2013, 15:16:54
i seriously cannot wait for this anymore
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Strelok on Tue, 12 March 2013, 14:12:38
About how much space could you give us in this area to house expansion boards? Approximately under the keys IOPKL.

(http://i.imgur.com/tApKyhA.jpg)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Moosecraft on Mon, 18 March 2013, 12:29:29
You have peaked my interest with this to get along the GH60, even though i don't post my since i mostly lurk :P
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 19 March 2013, 13:03:43
As for the modular top cover, will there be a standard rectangle without winkey covers? Not sure if HHKB is that or something else
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 19 March 2013, 19:44:22
About how much space could you give us in this area to house expansion boards? Approximately under the keys IOPKL.

There will be a brass plate there, so if that rectable is milled out, the hole for the brass plate won't look as nice. This might require a slightly different bottom piece design. If there are no brass plate, then you have roughly 0.30" thickness than can be milled out in the middle, and around 0.40" thick around the top edge. The case is at an angle, so you have a tad more room near the top.


As for the modular top cover, will there be a standard rectangle without winkey covers? Not sure if HHKB is that or something else

Yeah, there will be 3 different covers you can choose from, including a simple one without any blocks that cover the keys.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: regack on Tue, 19 March 2013, 21:12:13
About how much space could you give us in this area to house expansion boards? Approximately under the keys IOPKL.

There will be a brass plate there, so if that rectable is milled out, the hole for the brass plate won't look as nice. This might require a slightly different bottom piece design. If there are no brass plate, then you have roughly 0.30" thickness than can be milled out in the middle, and around 0.40" thick around the top edge. The case is at an angle, so you have a tad more room near the top.


WFD, do you mind sharing the diameter & thickness of the discs or the cavity for them?  I'm curious for possible placement of other stuff as well.  My assumption is that they are as thick as the depth that has been milled out.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Strelok on Tue, 19 March 2013, 21:29:34
If the holes for the weights are large enough we could just stick the expansion boards in there. They would also need enough room for the wires to the board, that's it.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 19 March 2013, 22:37:24
The large hole diameter is 2" (+tolerance factored in) for the large disc, and 1.30" for the smaller disc. They're all 1/4" thick. Hopefully you can make use of that space. I can increase the diameter more, but that would mean it can't be as deep because the bottom edge will be milled through the angled case.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Strelok on Wed, 20 March 2013, 00:13:50
The large hole diameter is 2" (+tolerance factored in) for the large disc, and 1.30" for the smaller disc. They're all 1/4" thick. Hopefully you can make use of that space. I can increase the diameter more, but that would mean it can't be as deep because the bottom edge will be milled through the angled case.

6mm should be enough Z height depending on what surface mount components we end up needing.

I don't feel like doing the calculus to figure out the size of the rectangle we can fit inside a 2" diameter circle, but it will most likely give us enough room to work.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: cobraj on Wed, 20 March 2013, 00:30:19
The large hole diameter is 2" (+tolerance factored in) for the large disc, and 1.30" for the smaller disc. They're all 1/4" thick. Hopefully you can make use of that space. I can increase the diameter more, but that would mean it can't be as deep because the bottom edge will be milled through the angled case.

6mm should be enough Z height depending on what surface mount components we end up needing.

I don't feel like doing the calculus to figure out the size of the rectangle we can fit inside a 2" diameter circle, but it will most likely give us enough room to work.

Just draw it and measure it with a ruler :P
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Wed, 20 March 2013, 00:54:37
Case looks awesome.

A custom programmed GH60 and GPAD with these cases (anodized in black) with my thick imsto caps is now my ideal board. Tenkeylesses feel huge and some parts of the fn layer is dumb on poker/pure.

Not really sure of the switch. Blue, green, or white.

Also slow change rainbow leds because that's ballin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=06Oaj2cKCwE
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: TheQsanity on Wed, 20 March 2013, 02:29:09
Will the case and ghpad be synchronized with the new Bluetooth/led/usbport/etc?
It would seem quite innovative if we could incorporate ghpad with Bluetooth connection to gh60 or something.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 20 March 2013, 09:11:12
Will the case and ghpad be synchronized with the new Bluetooth/led/usbport/etc?
It would seem quite innovative if we could incorporate ghpad with Bluetooth connection to gh60 or something.
We didn't thought about the gh60 and ghpad integration yet.
Worst case scenario, assuming that we do have room inside the ghpad case, we can have two bluetooth keyboards.
Any other idea?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 20 March 2013, 09:28:08
The GHPad will be designed in such a way, that it won't require any electronics (except switches and diodes) if connected as an extension to GH60.
However this requires the expansion pins, which are also used to talk to the BT module.
But it should be possible to communicate with BT between matrix scans. Electrically there's no problem. If the BT module doesn't send anything without notice, everything should be ok.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 20 March 2013, 09:37:30
The GHPad will be designed in such a way, that it won't require any electronics (except switches and diodes) if connected as an extension to GH60.
However this requires the expansion pins, which are also used to talk to the BT module.
But it should be possible to communicate with BT between matrix scans. Electrically there's no problem. If the BT module doesn't send anything without notice, everything should be ok.
Hmmm, don't know ...
And IF I wanna use ONLY the gpad?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 20 March 2013, 09:46:40
Then you solder the controller and everything and you use it.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 20 March 2013, 17:51:58
Then you solder the controller and everything and you use it.
It works, sure.
So are we going to have two versions of the GHPad PCB?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 20 March 2013, 18:20:38
No, I don't think so. It shouldn't be necessary.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:29:56
WhiteFire, how likely is it that I could get an un-anodized case, have it powder coated and the brass disks still fit? Are the disks a snug fit?

ignore, i got confused between this and another GH60 case. Any idea on the finishes yet?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Halverson on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:35:17
Am I the only one who wants the case done in the colours from the OP? Light blue bottom, red plate and purple top? :D

Oh, and I didn't see anywhere in the thread. Do you have an HHKB plate design with the split backspace?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:24:21
Is there a price range for this? Also any idea on when these will be ready to order?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Loligagger on Thu, 21 March 2013, 20:04:51
Would it be possible for the case have a flat bottom like this?

Pic is penoulum's 356 mini:
(http://i.imgur.com/EPNy2.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: DavinDidIt on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:06:00
4) modular top cover - The top cover has 3 different designs, allows you to choose a winkeyless cover, HHKB style, or standard full keys

Would be awesome if this can fit the topre HHKB....

If so, I'd definitely be in
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:21:58
4) modular top cover - The top cover has 3 different designs, allows you to choose a winkeyless cover, HHKB style, or standard full keys

Would be awesome if this can fit the topre HHKB....

If so, I'd definitely be in

this will be the case for my gh60. i want the hhkb layout and this looks the best for the gh60 hhkb layout. really excited...just want to know when we will ordering here. also...if we can pick colors..i think a white case would be sexy. i can just imagine my gh60 now...white on white pbt keycaps on a white aluminum case..gonna be awesome
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: L4yercake on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:35:08
4) modular top cover - The top cover has 3 different designs, allows you to choose a winkeyless cover, HHKB style, or standard full keys

Would be awesome if this can fit the topre HHKB....

If so, I'd definitely be in

Not possible as the top of the HHKB is also part of the switch housing.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Fri, 22 March 2013, 04:04:45
Yeah not a fan of the colours you've picked(red and grey? - i think), no chance for all black or just a raw milled case for we can get it painted ourselves?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: longweight on Fri, 22 March 2013, 04:28:02
Yeah not a fan of the colours you've picked(red and grey? - i think), no chance for all black or just a raw milled case for we can get it painted ourselves?


Those are indicative renderings.....
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Fri, 22 March 2013, 04:53:16
I thought that to, but reading post http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39599.msg818891#msg818891

says otherwise. I mean I don't mind Titanium look but I would want the plate to be the same colour (although the GH60 comes with a plate so this might not be a problem), just would prefer a black option.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 22 March 2013, 07:59:25
i think when the group buy comes out for this (hopefully soon) i bet there are going to be more colors
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Kaysa on Sat, 23 March 2013, 05:00:17
What is the estimated price for a case for HHKB Pro2 ansi layout with the GH60 PCB, switches, Plate, Switches Lube, Stabilizer Lube and etc.?
May I have  a quotation for all the above? and the estimated price to finish all stated above?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 23 March 2013, 18:04:35
What is the estimated price for a case for HHKB Pro2 ansi layout with the GH60 PCB, switches, Plate, Switches Lube, Stabilizer Lube and etc.?
May I have  a quotation for all the above? and the estimated price to finish all stated above?

A semi-wild guess:

$140 for the GH60
$200-$250 for the case
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 23 March 2013, 18:07:24
What is the estimated price for a case for HHKB Pro2 ansi layout with the GH60 PCB, switches, Plate, Switches Lube, Stabilizer Lube and etc.?
May I have  a quotation for all the above? and the estimated price to finish all stated above?

A semi-wild guess:

$140 for the GH60
$200-$250 for the case

 :eek:
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 23 March 2013, 18:10:08
Welcome to WalletHack
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 23 March 2013, 18:10:32
What is the estimated price for a case for HHKB Pro2 ansi layout with the GH60 PCB, switches, Plate, Switches Lube, Stabilizer Lube and etc.?
May I have  a quotation for all the above? and the estimated price to finish all stated above?

A semi-wild guess:

$140 for the GH60
$200-$250 for the case

 :eek:

It's a custom milled case
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 23 March 2013, 19:50:12
What is the estimated price for a case for HHKB Pro2 ansi layout with the GH60 PCB, switches, Plate, Switches Lube, Stabilizer Lube and etc.?
May I have  a quotation for all the above? and the estimated price to finish all stated above?

A semi-wild guess:

$140 for the GH60
$200-$250 for the case

 :eek:

It's a custom milled case

 :confused: $200

ok now that we have a price range, any known time this will be ready for GB?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Index on Sun, 24 March 2013, 15:22:52
Im ready to drop the monies for 2 cases.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 24 March 2013, 15:27:28
i want to hear when this will be ready to order :)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Glod on Mon, 25 March 2013, 02:03:53
Give the man time before before jumping him with these questions; these things take time. Also consider that the GH60 wont be ready until summer (hopefully).

I honestly feel bad i'm not contributing to these projects. WFD and GH60 team are heros.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: ishumprod on Mon, 25 March 2013, 03:03:55
Give the man time before before jumping him with these questions; these things take time. Also consider that the GH60 wont be ready until summer (hopefully).

I honestly feel bad i'm not contributing to these projects. WFD and GH60 team are heros.

ktf bro
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Sai on Wed, 27 March 2013, 22:56:37
hmm , i am just curious. will it be possible for the case to have blockers like KMAC Happy? so it would be easy to go between ANSI 1.5 and HHKB style. :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: tradet on Fri, 29 March 2013, 16:30:09
This looks so good. I'm very interested!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: rurushu on Sat, 30 March 2013, 12:18:15
this case is really nice, although it does strike some similarity to Duck Poker case when i first saw it, but the overall design + the compatibility it provides with other 60% keyboard justifies its design as an ideal design!

cant wait for the pricing as might be getting the GH60 depending on the progress of this awesome WFD casing....

oh by the way, WFD, have you thought up of a name for your case? or is it just going to be called WhiteFireDragon Case? (The name sounds impressive though)  :p
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: tricheboars on Sat, 30 March 2013, 15:57:22
i agree this bad boy needs a name. something with some panache?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: mashby on Sat, 30 March 2013, 16:04:23
Well the Duck Poker Case is called that because Duck0113 designed it/ran the GB. So by that rationale, would that make this the WFD 60?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 31 March 2013, 00:44:47
WFD60 looks good to me unless he has a more elaborate name in the works.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 31 March 2013, 01:08:26
I would prefer not to name things after myself. I don't need THAT much credit. I'm open to suggestions, but here are some of my own:

- Magnus 60
- Esprit 60
- Aldebaran 60
- Legend 60


For those waiting and still PMing me about details of this case, this is not completely on hold, but there are just other priorities, like finishing up the phantom parts. I scrapped the current drawings of this case and started from scratch again during the past few weeks. The angle before was a 5° tilt, I increased it to 6.25°. For reference, stock poker is 6°, and Filco with the extended feet I measured at 10°. I also had to slightly increase the thickness of the front and back wall so that the screw head does not show through. And the current height was designed for 0.15" standoffs, which does not exist so I had to change to total gap between the case and PCB.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Nask on Sun, 31 March 2013, 01:12:39
I would prefer not to name things after myself. I don't need THAT much credit. I'm open to suggestions, but here are some of my own:

- Magnus 60
- Esprit 60
- Aldebaran 60
- Legend 60


For those waiting and still PMing me about details of this case, this is not completely on hold, but there are just other priorities, like finishing up the phantom parts. I scrapped the current drawings of this case and started from scratch again during the past few weeks. The angle before was a 5° tilt, I increased it to 6.25°. For reference, stock poker is 6°, and Filco with the extended feet I measured at 10°. I also had to slightly increase the thickness of the front and back wall so that the screw head does not show through. And the current height was designed for 0.15" standoffs, which does not exist so I had to change to total gap between the case and PCB.

I think Magnus really better and my favorite is Legend 60.
You should make a quick poll.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 31 March 2013, 01:13:58
My votes for Legend 60 :D
Title: Re: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 31 March 2013, 01:15:11
I think Magnus really better and my favorite is Legend 60.
You should make a quick poll.


My votes for Legend 60 :D

Stop allowing WFD to be so modest lol
Make him keep it WFD60 imo :)
Title: Re: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 31 March 2013, 01:20:43
Stop allowing WFD to be so modest lol
Make him keep it WFD60 imo :)

Don't even act like we won't call it that anyways. Of course we're going to call it that regardless of what the OP title is :P
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Nask on Sun, 31 March 2013, 01:42:10
Stop allowing WFD to be so modest lol
Make him keep it WFD60 imo :)

Don't even act like we won't call it that anyways. Of course we're going to call it that regardless of what the OP title is :P

You only said that because he has a cool nickname, WFD60 is as cool as Legend60. :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: gameaholic on Sun, 31 March 2013, 02:02:59
Would an orange LED color be possible for the Caps Lock LED? oop meant to post in GH60 group buy thread, and oops there is an option for amber LED in the poll
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: rurushu on Sun, 31 March 2013, 08:51:39
i also agreed to the name WFD60, not saying that it gives too much credit to the designer (although i think the designer deserved it),
but partly the name also sounds nicer....

so i vote for WFD60
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: mashby on Sun, 31 March 2013, 09:30:42
Dragon 60?

White Fire 60?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Moosecraft on Sun, 31 March 2013, 10:18:04
WhiteDragonOfAwesome60?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: tricheboars on Sun, 31 March 2013, 11:16:51
So 'Magnus the God Cleaver' it is.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 31 March 2013, 11:16:56
I think WFD60 would be good. I'm going to call my case the TEK-80 - I think short version of username+size in percent is a good format.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 31 March 2013, 12:28:06
voting for WFD60

if not, then Legend60
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: kaiserreich on Mon, 01 April 2013, 11:04:16
WFD60 sounds like WD40
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: regack on Mon, 01 April 2013, 11:55:05
I'd like to put forth GPP60 as an option.

It sort of sounds like a weapon...
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: cobraj on Mon, 01 April 2013, 15:54:42
+1 Dragon60 or WFD60
Anything with a Dragon in it :P
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: aggiejy on Mon, 01 April 2013, 16:08:52
I'm calling it WFD60 regardless. :)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 April 2013, 16:12:57
Dragon60
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: pasph on Mon, 01 April 2013, 18:09:00
HotIce 60
Sirius for GH60 and Cygnus for GHkeypad
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: tricheboars on Mon, 01 April 2013, 18:13:41
Dragon60

that way if this is the first case on one of my GH60s i can claim it's 'Dragon Born'
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 April 2013, 18:21:47
Dragon60!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: aggiejy on Mon, 01 April 2013, 19:57:00
I like Dragon60 too... Game of Thrones!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:06:13
WFD60 or Dragon60
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 01 April 2013, 22:45:00
I just found out this will also be compatible with poker 2/pro, which is not released yet.


Stop allowing WFD to be so modest lol
Make him keep it WFD60 imo :)

Why don't I just name it Jclyn60? Any form of refusal is just being modest : p
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: rurushu on Tue, 02 April 2013, 03:08:36
Dragon60 or WFD60 is a good name....  :p :p


any progress on the casing?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: badcop on Tue, 02 April 2013, 03:56:30
WFD60 or Dragon60

this
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Moosecraft on Tue, 02 April 2013, 07:57:47
I think WFD60 is the best name by far.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 02 April 2013, 08:06:29
Or you could call it the Moose Case! :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Moosecraft on Tue, 02 April 2013, 09:08:22
Or you could call it the Moose Case! :D

O.o if I would have designed it I definitely would haha :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 02 April 2013, 09:11:44
Get a load of this guy! I'm the top moose 'round these here parts, boy.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: llovro on Tue, 02 April 2013, 10:15:38
I also agree with WFD60. You deserve it.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 02 April 2013, 10:18:53
Can we agree on WFD60? I think it's short and sweet
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: mushupork on Tue, 02 April 2013, 10:21:55
I keep reading WFD60 and keep seeing WD40.  Credit where credit is due but maybe a different acronym?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/WD-40_Smart_Straw.JPG/220px-WD-40_Smart_Straw.JPG)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: calavera on Tue, 02 April 2013, 17:05:41
DAC60 or DC60 : dragon (aluminium) case
WAC60 : whitefiredragon's aluminium case



I have no creativity.
Title: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 02 April 2013, 17:07:58
Loong 60
Title: Re: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 02 April 2013, 17:07:59
DAC60 or DC60 : dragon (aluminium) case
WAC60 : whitefiredragon's aluminium case



I have no creativity.

That's pretty good, especially the first two. The third one makes me think of "whack" our "Waco" lol

Loong 60

Hmmmm
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Turkishrambo on Tue, 02 April 2013, 18:47:25
MINI-GH

or maybe MX-GH

so it goes along with my LZ GH :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: rurushu on Wed, 03 April 2013, 00:21:43
Dragon60~~~~~

got the power and the awe in it!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: calavera on Wed, 03 April 2013, 03:39:55
MINI-GH

or maybe MX-GH

so it goes along with my LZ GH :D

Uhh...No. The whole point of a name is to be able to id and differentiate it from other cases, not create confusion.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 03 April 2013, 04:13:54
The truth is cases are always identified by who made them. How many times do you see posts or pictures or classifieds and you see this: imsto case; oneproduct case; treble case. There is no doubt in my mind that without a name, people won't forget who made these cases.
Title: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 03 April 2013, 04:53:54
Lets just call it the '60 Love' case <3
Title: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 03 April 2013, 04:54:38
The truth is cases are always identified by who made them. How many times do you see posts or pictures or classifieds and you see this: imsto case; oneproduct case; treble case. There is no doubt in my mind that without a name, people won't forget who made these cases.

Was duck poker case a person or just a name?

(Sorry double post, on me phone)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Sai on Wed, 03 April 2013, 04:59:41
Was duck poker case a person or just a name?
(Sorry double post, on me phone)

Well the Duck Poker Case is called that because Duck0113 designed it/ran the GB. So by that rationale, would that make this the WFD 60?

mashby said it.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Chase5delta on Sun, 07 April 2013, 10:44:39
Is there a price listed for this yet? I can't seem to find it. Being on my phone doesn't help either.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Moosecraft on Sun, 07 April 2013, 11:07:32
Is there a price listed for this yet? I can't seem to find it. Being on my phone doesn't help either.
Not that I've seen either.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 07 April 2013, 11:08:30
Estimated between $150-200, I believe. Probably more toward the high end of that range.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Chase5delta on Sun, 07 April 2013, 12:06:42
Jeeez why does a chunk of metal cost so dang much lol
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Moosecraft on Sun, 07 April 2013, 12:33:46
Jeeez why does a chunk of metal cost so dang much lol
Because it's a sexy piece of WFD metal :P
Nah but it's because it's custom milled out of a big chunk of aluminum.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: rurushu on Mon, 08 April 2013, 01:20:15
Estimated between $150-200, I believe. Probably more toward the high end of that range.
i see.... thanks for the info....
can prepare pockets for it...
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 08 April 2013, 07:30:43
Disregard, wrong thread
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: regack on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:22:50
WFD, what are the chances that the bottom portion of your case could be 3d printed? 
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 08 April 2013, 10:04:42
Do we know about colors yet? i am deciding between the_ beast's case and WFD's based on color at this point
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Moosecraft on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:17:14
Do we know about colors yet? i am deciding between the_ beast's case and WFD's based on color at this point
I want sky blue :D
So sexy IMO.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:13:52
Do we know about colors yet? i am deciding between the_ beast's case and WFD's based on color at this point
I want sky blue :D
So sexy IMO.

IF i have the money, i will be getting A Second, Very Bright Purple/Blue Case for a second GH60.

only if i get the money
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 09 April 2013, 15:35:07
Ok this is the first time I'm asking help in this thread: I looked for a while and can't find any standoffs that are 1/8" tall (around 3.25mm). I've looked on mouser, digikey, mcmaster, ebay, and other smaller stores with no luck. Male and female screw threads can be metric or US inches. I know these exist somewhere because KMAC2 has some. I need one just like the KMAC2 standoffs, or one very similar to it.

This is the very last piece to the case I'm trying to source. Sooner I can find it, sooner I can send in for quotes. I'll upload a pic of the standoff when I get home in the evening.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: regack on Tue, 09 April 2013, 15:53:42
Ok this is the first time I'm asking help in this thread: I looked for a while and can't find any standoffs that are 1/8" tall (around 3.25mm). I've looked on mouser, digikey, mcmaster, ebay, and other smaller stores with no luck. Male and female screw threads can be metric or US inches. I know these exist somewhere because KMAC2 has some. I need one just like the KMAC2 standoffs, or one very similar to it.

This is the very last piece to the case I'm trying to source. Sooner I can find it, sooner I can send in for quotes. I'll upload a pic of the standoff when I get home in the evening.

M/F standoff with just the "body" as ~1/8"?  Does the thread length matter?  Smallest I've found so far is 3/16"...
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: pasph on Tue, 09 April 2013, 17:13:19
SPACER/STANDOFF, ROUND, AL 6.4MM X 3.2MM
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/2036/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/1790900
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/4258/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/1790699
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/3403/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/2301368
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/1934/spacer-standoff-round-brass-6-4mmx3/dp/2301356
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/3403/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/1790730
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: AriesX on Tue, 09 April 2013, 17:50:34
SPACER/STANDOFF, ROUND, AL 6.4MM X 3.2MM
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/2036/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/1790900
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/4258/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/1790699
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/3403/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/2301368
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/1934/spacer-standoff-round-brass-6-4mmx3/dp/2301356
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/3403/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/1790730


http://www.newark.com/keystone/3403/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/62W5630

is this the same one?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 09 April 2013, 17:52:50
That's an awfully short standoff.  The thread depth would be miniscule.  You sure that's what the KMAC2 parts are?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 09 April 2013, 17:55:44
That's an awfully short standoff.  The thread depth would be miniscule.  You sure that's what the KMAC2 parts are?

For this application, I don't think you'd need a lot of thread engagement. It's not like it's holding a wheel on an car...

I've heard at 3-4 threads engaged is pretty much all you need for most applications
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: pasph on Tue, 09 April 2013, 17:56:39
SPACER/STANDOFF, ROUND, AL 6.4MM X 3.2MM
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/2036/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/1790900
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/4258/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/1790699
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/3403/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/2301368
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/1934/spacer-standoff-round-brass-6-4mmx3/dp/2301356
http://uk.farnell.com/keystone/3403/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/1790730


http://www.newark.com/keystone/3403/spacer-standoff-round-al-6-4mm/dp/62W5630

is this the same one?

Yes just change country to United Kingdom :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: AriesX on Tue, 09 April 2013, 18:05:37
it seems like the round standoffs dont do 1/8 but the hex ones do for the Male-Female standoffs

edit: maybe i just cant find 1/8 rounds lol on the keystone website

(http://i.imgur.com/jNQJmWf.png)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: pasph on Tue, 09 April 2013, 18:10:46
Don't know, for the round ones it says
Spacing Height: 0.125"
 :-[
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 09 April 2013, 19:04:59
Thanks for the leads guys. I don't mind trying to source from other countries either, it's hard to find these in the US. And just to be clear, i'm not looking for spacers. They need to be standoffs with male threads on the bottom (to screw into the case) and female threads no top (for PCB to screw into). The spacing height needs to be 0.125", or metric 3.25mm, and the male thread length needs to be less than 0.15". All these criteria is very similar to the KMAC2 standoff pictured below. Hex or round is fine. They don't even look like standoffs in typical computers you see, more like screws with threaded top.


[attach=1] [attach=2] [attach=3]




That's an awfully short standoff.  The thread depth would be miniscule.  You sure that's what the KMAC2 parts are?
Yes, both standoff length and male thread lengths are pretty short, and that's more than enough clearance you need to raise the PCB high enough so the switch pins do not touch the case bottom. Thread length does not need to be long, it's not holding down much force like Beast said.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jcrouse on Tue, 09 April 2013, 22:11:33
If the large diameter is only .125 thick then you will only have the length to work with for the female thread. That would be difficult to manufacture. The threads for iMAV cases were #2-56. A #2 thread has an O.D. of .086. You could extend the lengh available if the lower thread, the male, was made to be a larger diameter. Then the tap drill and threads of the female thread could go down into the male thread, from the opposite side, of course.

Just some rambling ...

John
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: calavera on Tue, 09 April 2013, 23:07:34
Not sure if this would help but looks like you can get them made.

http://www.accuratescrew.com/CatalogPage.aspx?ProdCat=STFTHDQ_MFH
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 10 April 2013, 07:16:59
Why not spacers?  Screw goes through pcb, through a sleeve,  directly into case.  Sleeve holds up pcb. Perhaps a little difficult to install but probably cheap.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 15 April 2013, 07:08:45
So many awesome cases and only on can give shelter to my precious GH60 PCB :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: cobraj on Mon, 15 April 2013, 14:47:06
So many awesome cases and only on can give shelter to my precious GH60 PCB :D

Indeed there are haha :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: rknize on Mon, 15 April 2013, 17:17:52
You only got one GH60?!?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 15 April 2013, 18:35:44
So many awesome cases and only on can give shelter to my precious GH60 PCB :D

The price of the GH60 just dropped to $30, you should buy 2 or 3!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: gomez18 on Mon, 15 April 2013, 20:28:10
I have a GH60 on order with the Pure plate and switch placement. Will that plate fit in this case? Sorry if this is an obvious question. I'm kind of a newb at this.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: cobraj on Mon, 15 April 2013, 22:19:35
I have a GH60 on order with the Pure plate and switch placement. Will that plate fit in this case? Sorry if this is an obvious question. I'm kind of a newb at this.

Yeah it should.. This case was made for the GH60 :)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: gomez18 on Mon, 15 April 2013, 22:43:43
Ok. One more question. I currently have my order including the plate and plate mounted stabilizers. Should I forego the plate and get the plate that comes with this keyboard? Would the switches be soldered to the board and the plate can pass over it? It seems like I should be able to apply the stabilizers to the plate that comes with this case and put the plate over the PCB and be good to go. Is that accurate? If so, I will remove the plate from my GH60 order.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:32:04
I have a GH60 on order with the Pure plate and switch placement. Will that plate fit in this case? Sorry if this is an obvious question. I'm kind of a newb at this.

Yeah it should.. This case was made for the GH60 :)
Looking at the designs i'd say that the case is only compatible with the custom plate that WFD will supply. However, if he gets his standoffs sorted out then it will support the GH60 plate.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: gomez18 on Tue, 16 April 2013, 13:38:00
If the standoffs don't get sorted out and I have to swap this new plate for the GH60 plate, would that involve desoldering all the switches to get them mounted on the new plate or can they pop off and on after they have already been soldered? I'm getting it assembled from the GH60 groupbuy but, if I would need to desolder and solder the switches on again to get them in this case, I might consider forgoing the assembled option or, perhaps, look at a case that can take the GH60 plate.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Jmneuv on Wed, 17 April 2013, 10:31:46
I keep wondering about the way the plate is mounted:
My understanding of a plate doing as intended is that the plate itself is mounted to the case, the switches are mounted to the plate and the force exerted on the switch is transmitted into the plate - all the while the pcb is practically dangling off the collective switch solder feet.
Now when i use standoffs on the PCB that would defeat the purpose of the plate, no? Sure it still strengthens the overall assembly, but it's much closer to a pure pcb mount since the pcb is directly taking force again.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: regack on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:11:41
WFD's design allows for the plate to be optional.  In the case where you don't use a plate, you'll need the standoffs to mount the PCB.  The plate is generally less flexible than a PCB and translates to a more solid feel. 

I imagine WFD arrived at the size he did (standoff height) in order to help reduce overall material/machining costs.  Changing to a longer 0.25" standoff would probably mean starting with thicker stock and machining out additional material, or making the design thinner on the bottom or something else undesireable. 

I'm not sure what I'm responding to, maybe just keeping hope alive :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Jmneuv on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:19:59
So when i use a plate, the standoffs become optional?
(sorry if there was a detail discussion about standoff heights, i missed it)
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: eon on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:24:18
Yes if you use the plate that comes with this case, you don't need the standoffs
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 17 April 2013, 11:24:56
So when i use a plate, the standoffs become optional?
(sorry if there was a detail discussion about standoff heights, i missed it)

If you use the integrated plate that comes with the case, the standoffs are not necessary. If you use one of the existing Poker plates, or a plate from the GH60 group buy, using the standoffs is necessary to mount the board into the case.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: HannibalChew on Fri, 19 April 2013, 19:33:23
How much will this be? I'm going to remove the plate from my GH60 order so i can use the plate from this. Looks like an awesome case.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Moosecraft on Sun, 21 April 2013, 10:04:55
How is it going with this case?
I've been holding up on my GH60 order because this is the only case I want with it.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: tradet on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:34:11
This case should be possible with a GH60 full keys layout right?

Edit: Yeah it should be with the modular top. I just got  bit confused with the winkeyless blockers.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: remedyhalopc on Tue, 30 April 2013, 23:12:15
any new updates?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Wed, 01 May 2013, 05:54:28
I'd take one!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: bugsaint on Wed, 01 May 2013, 16:27:08
Read through the entire thread and it would seem my order for a GH60 and plate (with the soldering option) would mean I have to use the standoffs with this case  :(

Unless of course I desolder everything and use the plate that comes with this case - something I would loathe to do as I don't even own a soldering iron - plus the fact I've already paid for the soldering option /sigh.

Any chance this case can accommodate the plates that are coming with the GH60 GB?  :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:56:37
I just saw this and I instantly thought of your design


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43536.msg902039#msg902039 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43536.msg902039#msg902039)


I can't wait to see where you go this your design.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 02 June 2013, 21:57:32
Out of curiosity why do you choose those circular brass weights instead of a single big one?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 02 June 2013, 22:02:54
I know it's been many months since I intended to send it out for quotes, but I've been swamped with Phantom and GH60 GB. When things settle down in the summer, I can finally continue with this again.


I just saw this and I instantly thought of your design

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43536.msg902039#msg902039 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43536.msg902039#msg902039)

Yeah I saw that one too. I considered grabbing one, but it was too similar to my own design, and I'd rather wait until mine comes through. There's more self-satisfaction that way.


Out of curiosity why do you choose those circular brass weights instead of a single big one?

There are standoffs, so 1 large disc will interfere with at least one or more standoffs. Also, the larger the diameter, the thinner it must be, otherwise milling out the area for the disc will make it go all the way through the case at the front (the thinner side).
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 02 June 2013, 22:06:34
There are standoffs, so 1 large disc will interfere with at least one or more standoffs. Also, the larger the diameter, the thinner it must be, otherwise milling out the area for the disc will make it go all the way through the case at the front (the thinner side).
Never understood why people don't just get the standoffs machined out of the piece of brass. Brass is a better material for threaded holes and it means you don't need to be making angled standoffs. You can simply mount the brass at an angle. However, if it'll go through the front then fair enough.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: kaiserreich on Wed, 12 June 2013, 07:59:53
When can we see real pictures?

So many cases GB going on right now it's so hard to choose.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 12 June 2013, 11:37:47
When can we see real pictures?

So many cases GB going on right now it's so hard to choose.

it is still in the design/concept phase in the OP is some renderings from the software being used to design it.
it has been said before that it may be after the gh60 GB before this gets started.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: tricheboars on Sun, 23 June 2013, 00:10:58
Any update on this? I think this is my favorite case design and I would love to own one.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: korrelate on Sun, 30 June 2013, 23:01:05
I've been working on this for the past few months and this is what I have so far. It's nearly done but I still have to refine some stuff.

top view with some edge lines
Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/assembly.png)



bottom view without any reference edge lines
Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/assembly2.png)


Color-coded by parts, and next to a matching concept GHkeyad
Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH60withGHpad_4.png)



Color-coded by parts, concept GH70 (GH60 + GHkeypad)
Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_2.png)



What this design allows:

1) compatibility with all 60% layout - includes poker, pure, and upcoming GH60

2) integrated plate - there will be a plate that screws into the bottom piece of the main case.

3) removable switches - the plate allows for removal of the top switch housing without desoldering. The plate design also allows for rotated switches to be removed. You'll also have the option to choose between costar stabilizers, PCB-mounted stabilizers, or plate-mounted stabilizers. Refer to HERE (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg773845#msg773845) for more info.

4) modular top cover - The top cover has 3 different designs, allows you to choose a winkeyless cover, HHKB style, or standard full keys

5) optional plate - The PCB can be mounted into the case without a plate, made possible by the 5 screw-in standoffs. This was for people that prefer PCB bottom-out feeling.

6) compatibility with the older poker plate - The PCB/plate combo is a direct drop-in without any mods. The old plate won't be able to screw into the case, but you can still screw this PCB/plate combo down to the standoffs.

7) (maybe) optional brass discs - You can add different numbers of brass discs at the bottom to make the case heavier, or take them all off for a lighter case. Any amount up to 4.


more details and description later....

"What this design allows" is a great checklist... that's a custom keyboard case & plate !
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: amishmansteve on Sun, 30 June 2013, 23:16:32
This looks very cool, and exactly what I've been searching for recently! Will be watching this thread... :D
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 01 July 2013, 18:01:32
Read through the entire thread and it would seem my order for a GH60 and plate (with the soldering option) would mean I have to use the standoffs with this case  :(

Unless of course I desolder everything and use the plate that comes with this case - something I would loathe to do as I don't even own a soldering iron - plus the fact I've already paid for the soldering option /sigh.

Any chance this case can accommodate the plates that are coming with the GH60 GB?  :D

I'd like to know this as well for the same reason.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: gropingmantis on Wed, 03 July 2013, 06:26:32
Really want one of these, best looking case with HHKB blockers I have seen.

Any chance of ISO plates?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: madderoftime on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:14:09
Was just thinking the brass disks you could make slightly smaller than the whole for them and then put a thin UHMW or similar disk under it. Fasten with a nylon screw in the center and then it would be electrochemically isolated from the aluminum case. Eliminating corrosion issues for the disk no matter what material was used for it. To protect against shock (OMG don't drop it but...) put a strip of thin closed cell foam around the outside edge compressing it very slightly when mounting with the nylon screw. For a bit more torque I would suggest about a M6 flathead screw. My thoughts anyway nice work so far! Watching as many others.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Qipz on Sat, 06 July 2013, 17:32:11
Really want one of these, best looking case with HHKB blockers I have seen.

Any chance of ISO plates?
Wait, reading this post made me wonder, I could use this case if I ordered the gh60 assembled on a 1.25 iso plate right?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: gnubag on Sat, 06 July 2013, 17:36:59
Really want one of these, best looking case with HHKB blockers I have seen.

Any chance of ISO plates?
Wait, reading this post made me wonder, I could use this case if I ordered the gh60 assembled on a 1.25 iso plate right?

5) optional plate - The PCB can be mounted into the case without a plate, made possible by the 5 screw-in standoffs. This was for people that prefer PCB bottom-out feeling.

6) compatibility with the older poker plate - The PCB/plate combo is a direct drop-in without any mods. The old plate won't be able to screw into the case, but you can still screw this PCB/plate combo down to the standoffs.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Qipz on Sun, 07 July 2013, 15:28:45
5) optional plate - The PCB can be mounted into the case without a plate, made possible by the 5 screw-in standoffs. This was for people that prefer PCB bottom-out feeling.

6) compatibility with the older poker plate - The PCB/plate combo is a direct drop-in without any mods. The old plate won't be able to screw into the case, but you can still screw this PCB/plate combo down to the standoffs.

Ah, good to know!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Qipz on Sun, 14 July 2013, 12:43:17
Any news about this case?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 28 July 2013, 04:06:43
This is prob a dumb question but I would like to ask it anyway.

Could a design like this be 3d printed by shapeways?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: thoere on Wed, 14 August 2013, 12:14:48
Any updates on this?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: dkssudgktpdy on Sun, 20 October 2013, 10:29:34
any new updates?

i waiting it.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Loligagger on Sun, 10 November 2013, 19:47:56
Had any time to work on this recently, WFD?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Sat, 14 December 2013, 23:15:51
i just came across this now... amazing design!
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: Strelok on Wed, 18 December 2013, 16:49:33
This isn't dead - is it?
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 December 2013, 16:52:15
This isn't dead - is it?

Well considering the last few posts were more or less necro posts....and WFD is pretty much MIA, it seems to be dead.
Title: Re: Aluminum 60% case - GH60, Poker, Pure
Post by: dkssudgktpdy on Thu, 27 February 2014, 06:14:34
OMG... really dead?  :(