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Title: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - Shipping from GMK
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 02 October 2020, 10:57:11
What?
A keyset inspired by Micro Switch's LISP Space Cadet keyboard.

(https://i.imgur.com/KvVTYUo.jpg)

When?
October 2nd to October 30th

Where?
EU: oblotzky.industries (https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-space-cadet-ii)
USA: novelkeys.xyz (https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/frontpage/products/gmk-space-cadet-ii-gb)
CAN: deskhero.ca (https://www.deskhero.ca/collections/open-group-buys/products/gmk-space-cadet-ii)
SEA: iLumKB.com (https://ilumkb.com/products/gmk-space-cadet-ii)
CN: zFrontier.com (http://www.zfrontier.com/app/mch/om8O59J783kl)
AUS: DailyClack.com (https://dailyclack.com/collections/group-buys/products/gmk-space-cadet-ii)

Money?
Check vendor pages. Base Kits start at 119€/120$.

Ships?
By current GMK timelines, 30-35 Weeks after GB closes

Colors?
Custom colors, matched to BFP, GD and WCK from Signature Plastics. Also black.

Kits?
(https://i.imgur.com/dR7MKcw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ERzNndZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/17DvqjJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DHRUqNq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XgVjshx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6Qac6cV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rN4crn9.jpg)

Pics?
(https://i.imgur.com/Wd1LhjW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jHp3gZa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wPxTlSC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/h7QdRcq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gQ6AFd0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2d7UzgP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/J7dy8Mo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/E22ftMS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OOCkvIl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QecjiMf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XWVfLpE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/O8aEF8p.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8tiGpGS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zTLl9r4.jpg)

Collabs?
Deskmats by OutragedPudding and Biip

(https://i.imgur.com/q8qQyRu.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/WlEa4rk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rlZhkZ3.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 02 October 2020, 11:01:13
Approved :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: jimboytacos on Fri, 02 October 2020, 13:58:37
Nice! Loving the new R5 in True Cadet.
Picked this up and icons to go with my existing Space Cadet!

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: treeleaf64 on Fri, 02 October 2020, 16:01:09
Yay!!!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: num on Sat, 03 October 2020, 01:00:31
Yes! Ordered! Thanks Oblotzky!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: Kokoboro on Sat, 03 October 2020, 05:16:29
My first GMK set, very excited!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 03 October 2020, 13:15:34
Nice! Loving the new R5 in True Cadet.
Picked this up and icons to go with my existing Space Cadet!
Thanks!

In the same boat here. Love that R5.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: Narf on Sat, 03 October 2020, 20:16:04
Excited to see this set come back for round 2, but why no blue Pipe or Grave in Base kit?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: Special K on Sun, 04 October 2020, 10:44:39
I have a standard 104-key keyboard and have a question:

The Classic Base kit shows the Shift key row and the spacebar row both being R4.  The True Cadet set, which looks like it would support a standard 104-key keyboard, has an R4 row for the shift keys but an R5 row for the spacebar, ALT, CTRL, etc.

If I buy the Classic Base kit and True Cadet kits, can I replace the spacebar row of keys from the Classic Base kit with the corresponding keys from the True Cadet set?  If so, then shouldn't the keys from one kit be the same height as the corresponding keys from the other kit?  Is the R4 labeling on the Classic Base kit and/or the R5 labeling on the True Cadet kit a typo?  I must be missing something here.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: Oblotzky on Sun, 04 October 2020, 11:28:00
I have a standard 104-key keyboard and have a question:

The Classic Base kit shows the Shift key row and the spacebar row both being R4.  The True Cadet set, which looks like it would support a standard 104-key keyboard, has an R4 row for the shift keys but an R5 row for the spacebar, ALT, CTRL, etc.

If I buy the Classic Base kit and True Cadet kits, can I replace the spacebar row of keys from the Classic Base kit with the corresponding keys from the True Cadet set?  If so, then shouldn't the keys from one kit be the same height as the corresponding keys from the other kit?  Is the R4 labeling on the Classic Base kit and/or the R5 labeling on the True Cadet kit a typo?  I must be missing something here.

This is not a mistake, those are indeed two different bottom row profiles. Some prefer R4 for their bottom row, others prefer R5. True Cadet offers the ability to convert the set to a R5 bottom row while at the same time changing the set to have the last two rows to be black modifier legends like the original keyboard this set is based on has.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: Special K on Sun, 04 October 2020, 16:42:51
I have a standard 104-key keyboard and have a question:

The Classic Base kit shows the Shift key row and the spacebar row both being R4.  The True Cadet set, which looks like it would support a standard 104-key keyboard, has an R4 row for the shift keys but an R5 row for the spacebar, ALT, CTRL, etc.

If I buy the Classic Base kit and True Cadet kits, can I replace the spacebar row of keys from the Classic Base kit with the corresponding keys from the True Cadet set?  If so, then shouldn't the keys from one kit be the same height as the corresponding keys from the other kit?  Is the R4 labeling on the Classic Base kit and/or the R5 labeling on the True Cadet kit a typo?  I must be missing something here.

This is not a mistake, those are indeed two different bottom row profiles. Some prefer R4 for their bottom row, others prefer R5. True Cadet offers the ability to convert the set to a R5 bottom row while at the same time changing the set to have the last two rows to be black modifier legends like the original keyboard this set is based on has.

Do many other GMK keycap sets offer an R5 bottom row?  I don't think I've ever even seen that before.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: Oblotzky on Sun, 04 October 2020, 17:59:34
I have a standard 104-key keyboard and have a question:

The Classic Base kit shows the Shift key row and the spacebar row both being R4.  The True Cadet set, which looks like it would support a standard 104-key keyboard, has an R4 row for the shift keys but an R5 row for the spacebar, ALT, CTRL, etc.

If I buy the Classic Base kit and True Cadet kits, can I replace the spacebar row of keys from the Classic Base kit with the corresponding keys from the True Cadet set?  If so, then shouldn't the keys from one kit be the same height as the corresponding keys from the other kit?  Is the R4 labeling on the Classic Base kit and/or the R5 labeling on the True Cadet kit a typo?  I must be missing something here.

This is not a mistake, those are indeed two different bottom row profiles. Some prefer R4 for their bottom row, others prefer R5. True Cadet offers the ability to convert the set to a R5 bottom row while at the same time changing the set to have the last two rows to be black modifier legends like the original keyboard this set is based on has.

Do many other GMK keycap sets offer an R5 bottom row?  I don't think I've ever even seen that before.

Not many. Triumph Adler R2 had a R5 addon kit, GMK Carbon R2 had R5 bottom row, GMK ASCII, that's about as much as I can list off the top of my head.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Sun, 04 October 2020, 19:52:13
I have a standard 104-key keyboard and have a question:

The Classic Base kit shows the Shift key row and the spacebar row both being R4.  The True Cadet set, which looks like it would support a standard 104-key keyboard, has an R4 row for the shift keys but an R5 row for the spacebar, ALT, CTRL, etc.

If I buy the Classic Base kit and True Cadet kits, can I replace the spacebar row of keys from the Classic Base kit with the corresponding keys from the True Cadet set?  If so, then shouldn't the keys from one kit be the same height as the corresponding keys from the other kit?  Is the R4 labeling on the Classic Base kit and/or the R5 labeling on the True Cadet kit a typo?  I must be missing something here.


This is not a mistake, those are indeed two different bottom row profiles. Some prefer R4 for their bottom row, others prefer R5. True Cadet offers the ability to convert the set to a R5 bottom row while at the same time changing the set to have the last two rows to be black modifier legends like the original keyboard this set is based on has.

Do many other GMK keycap sets offer an R5 bottom row?  I don't think I've ever even seen that before.


9009 R3 used R5 bottom row. I think that sorta kickstarted the recent trend.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: dvorcol on Sun, 04 October 2020, 21:37:57
I have a standard 104-key keyboard and have a question:

The Classic Base kit shows the Shift key row and the spacebar row both being R4.  The True Cadet set, which looks like it would support a standard 104-key keyboard, has an R4 row for the shift keys but an R5 row for the spacebar, ALT, CTRL, etc.

If I buy the Classic Base kit and True Cadet kits, can I replace the spacebar row of keys from the Classic Base kit with the corresponding keys from the True Cadet set?  If so, then shouldn't the keys from one kit be the same height as the corresponding keys from the other kit?  Is the R4 labeling on the Classic Base kit and/or the R5 labeling on the True Cadet kit a typo?  I must be missing something here.

This is not a mistake, those are indeed two different bottom row profiles. Some prefer R4 for their bottom row, others prefer R5. True Cadet offers the ability to convert the set to a R5 bottom row while at the same time changing the set to have the last two rows to be black modifier legends like the original keyboard this set is based on has.

Do many other GMK keycap sets offer an R5 bottom row?  I don't think I've ever even seen that before.

Not many. Triumph Adler R2 had a R5 addon kit, GMK Carbon R2 had R5 bottom row, GMK ASCII, that's about as much as I can list off the top of my head.

Nuclear Data, 9009, and Dolch r5 also had R5 bottom row.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 05 October 2020, 05:52:55
9009 R3 used R5 bottom row. I think that sorta kickstarted the recent trend.

I would say Triumph Adler and Carbon R2 did. Triumph Adler put out a R5 kit that was limited to 1u, 1.5u and 2.u keys and this sort of reintroduced that profile to the community, like a reminder that it exists. Then Carbon R2 gave us molds for 1.25u keys, which future sets could then use to have standard layout coverage with R5.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 05 October 2020, 11:44:59
I would say Triumph Adler and Carbon R2 did. Triumph Adler put out a R5 kit that was limited to 1u, 1.5u and 2.u keys and this sort of reintroduced that profile to the community, like a reminder that it exists. Then Carbon R2 gave us molds for 1.25u keys, which future sets could then use to have standard layout coverage with R5.

Completely agree.

That I know of, these are the sets with R5, listed in order of GB end date:
   4/5/2015  GMK Triumph Adler (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70278.0)  just R5 (no 1.25u)
   7/27/2018  GMK Triumph Adler 90 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96387.0)  R5 (no 1.25u), R0 in one child kit
 *11/30/2018  GMK Carbon r2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97972.0)  R0 & R5  *introduced 1.25u R5 molds
   9/30/2019  GMK 9009 r3 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102259.0)  just R5
   12/16/2019  GMK ASCII (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103218.0)  R0 & R5
   4/10/2020  GMK RGBYK Mods Add-on (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105127.0)  just R5
   4/24/2020  GMK WoB R0-R5 Add-on (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105239.0)  R0 & R5
   8/1/2020  GMK Nuclear Data (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107254.0)  just R5
   9/4/2020  GMK Dolch r5 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107843.0)  just R5
   10/30/2020  GMK Space Cadet R2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108865.0)  just R5 in one child kit

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:32:49
I would say Triumph Adler and Carbon R2 did. Triumph Adler put out a R5 kit that was limited to 1u, 1.5u and 2.u keys and this sort of reintroduced that profile to the community, like a reminder that it exists. Then Carbon R2 gave us molds for 1.25u keys, which future sets could then use to have standard layout coverage with R5.

Completely agree.

That I know of, these are the sets with R5, listed in order of GB end date:
   4/5/2015  GMK Triumph Adler (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70278.0)  just R5 (no 1.25u)
   7/27/2018  GMK Triumph Adler 90 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96387.0)  R5 (no 1.25u), R0 in one child kit
 *11/30/2018  GMK Carbon r2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97972.0)  R0 & R5  *introduced 1.25u R5 molds
   9/30/2019  GMK 9009 r3 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102259.0)  just R5
   12/16/2019  GMK ASCII (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103218.0)  R0 & R5
   4/10/2020  GMK RGBYK Mods Add-on (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105127.0)  just R5
   4/24/2020  GMK WoB R0-R5 Add-on (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105239.0)  R0 & R5
   8/1/2020  GMK Nuclear Data (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107254.0)  just R5
   9/4/2020  GMK Dolch r5 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107843.0)  just R5
   10/30/2020  GMK Space Cadet R2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108865.0)  just R5 in one child kit

Ah, yeah good call. I forgot Carbon R2 filled in the missing compatibility of TA. I stand by my statement that 9009 R3 kicked off the recent popularization tho. Especially when you consider the nearly one year gap between the two sets and the 300% difference in base kit sales.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: dallman5 on Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:53:06
I would say Triumph Adler and Carbon R2 did. Triumph Adler put out a R5 kit that was limited to 1u, 1.5u and 2.u keys and this sort of reintroduced that profile to the community, like a reminder that it exists. Then Carbon R2 gave us molds for 1.25u keys, which future sets could then use to have standard layout coverage with R5.

Completely agree.

That I know of, these are the sets with R5, listed in order of GB end date:
   4/5/2015  GMK Triumph Adler (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70278.0)  just R5 (no 1.25u)
   7/27/2018  GMK Triumph Adler 90 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96387.0)  R5 (no 1.25u), R0 in one child kit
 *11/30/2018  GMK Carbon r2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97972.0)  R0 & R5  *introduced 1.25u R5 molds
   9/30/2019  GMK 9009 r3 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102259.0)  just R5
   12/16/2019  GMK ASCII (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103218.0)  R0 & R5
   4/10/2020  GMK RGBYK Mods Add-on (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105127.0)  just R5
   4/24/2020  GMK WoB R0-R5 Add-on (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105239.0)  R0 & R5
   8/1/2020  GMK Nuclear Data (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107254.0)  just R5
   9/4/2020  GMK Dolch r5 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107843.0)  just R5
   10/30/2020  GMK Space Cadet R2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108865.0)  just R5 in one child kit



Just for the sake of completeness, GMK Iris (+R0), GMK Blue Alert, one early round of GMK Originative (and Originative Cyrillic), one round of GMK Sky Dolch via Originative, as well as GMK KA1953 from the Chinese community and some other GMK classic beige runs from long ago had R5 support predating TA90.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: shensmobile on Tue, 06 October 2020, 01:09:37
Out of curiosity, how close will R1 vs R2 be for the blue plastic?  Can I mix and match the R1 Blue kit with the R2 modifiers without them being obviously different?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: packman86 on Sun, 11 October 2020, 13:45:42
Just ordered from Novelkeys  :thumb:

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: ricesteam on Thu, 22 October 2020, 18:20:36
What are the MOQ numbers?  :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 27 October 2020, 07:08:36
What are the MOQ numbers?  :)

MOQ's are hit ;)

Only a few more days left!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 30 October 2020, 12:09:13
Last day :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: Finite on Wed, 09 December 2020, 05:09:24
Noooooooo! I missed it! :c
Smh, I just had to wait until November/December to start getting into custom keyboards. :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: VellFlamm on Wed, 09 December 2020, 17:58:09
Noooooooo! I missed it! :c
Smh, I just had to wait until November/December to start getting into custom keyboards. :(

Vendors will have some extras. Sign up for all the vendors' updates. They'll let you know when they are available.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: ATK on Thu, 10 December 2020, 06:02:44
Noooooooo! I missed it! :c
Smh, I just had to wait until November/December to start getting into custom keyboards. :(

it looks like there are still some slots available here: https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-space-cadet-ii?variant=36103594573992
(although at a higher price than the GB, but at least the set would be reserved and you don't need to hunt for the extras)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: vladimir108 on Sun, 10 January 2021, 17:01:33
Isn't missing 1U "Fn" keycap in base/any set for HHKB layout?
It's on render: (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0335/2087/7700/products/gmk_space_cadet_ii_keyboard_m60a_persp_front_low_2048x2048.jpg)
... but is not in any set.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: phinix on Mon, 31 January 2022, 08:43:39
Is this one done and started to ship out?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - LIVE until October 30th
Post by: Special K on Mon, 31 January 2022, 10:00:57
Is this one done and started to ship out?

It's currently being manufactured according to NovelKeys:

https://novelkeys.com/pages/Product-Updates
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - Shipping from GMK
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 31 January 2022, 19:09:27
Space Cadet II is being picked up from GMK today (Feb 1st)  :) I should be able to start shipping EU orders this week still.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - Shipping from GMK
Post by: phinix on Tue, 01 February 2022, 04:20:52
Space Cadet II is being picked up from GMK today (Feb 1st)  :) I should be able to start shipping EU orders this week still.

Yay!!! :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - Shipping from GMK
Post by: Jo_hannes on Wed, 02 February 2022, 04:16:22
My second GMK set delivering (first was MoDo) out of like 20 that I joined since June 2020. And first one from Oblo! Going on my AIS65, making it the first full-Oblo board in my collection. Sweetness. /J
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Space Cadet II - Shipping from GMK
Post by: Jo_hannes on Mon, 14 February 2022, 05:58:53
For European (EU, GB, CH, NO) customers, extras are still available from Oblotzky (Base, Blue base, Symbols and deskmats). https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-space-cadet-ii (https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-space-cadet-ii)

Best,
Johannes