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Title: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 21 March 2013, 02:40:01
NON-CONUS GB Participants, please read this update from BunnyLake: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2323159#msg2323159


== == == == ==
Current status of the Group Buy (2017/06/05)
Any updates for the CONUS folks?

On the SMD parts @samwisekoi was supposed to be trying to work something out. He is still packing and moving he posted elsewhere he would try to be back online around July.

I'm on hold for the rest of my orders due to not having those SMD parts and waiting on fulfilling a couple big orders to see what is left to fulfill with and honestly quite a few people just never responded to being contacted a second time.

I got in touch with @mashby the other week and he said he is going to do his best to get back in the game sometime this month (June).

@hoffmanmyster is slowly shipping things out AFAIK, he also moved and got a new job and I'm pretty sure got a gf or wife because he sold a bunch of stuff the other day and I don't know why else anyone would do that :p


so tl;dr as is typical with this buy....things are happening in spurts....we have not given up.....

 :spam: 8)

Current status of the Group Buy (2016/03/01)
Hey guys! Before we dig into the details of this update, I first want to thank everyone for being patient while we worked on putting together a plan of action and nail down the details of how we're going to drag this group buy across the finish line. Rest assured that those volunteering and in the same boat as you. We're all waiting for our own orders as well and we want to wrap this up as fast as possible.

TL;DR
Three proxies are handling the shipment of the US and Canadian orders and you're going to have to pay for shipping again. Shipping will be a flat-rate of $15 and sent via USPS Priority Mail for US customers. Canadian order will be shipped via First-Class.



GH60 Group Buy Status
In case you haven't been keeping up with this thread, this group buy was started three years ago and it unfortunately fell apart. Details can be found within this thread, but the important point is that many volunteers have been working behind the scenes to repair this buy as much as possible and fulfill everyone's order. It's far from perfect, but we're doing our best with what we have left.

Proxy Shipping
Three volunteers are handling the shipment of the US and Candian orders. They are: mashby, HoffmanMyster and SpAmRaY. Our jobs are to handle the shipping of your order, as complete as we can make it, and to collect the funds for postage.

I Have To Pay For Shipping Again?
Yes. We would prefer that this wasn't the case, but given the status of this group buy we have no other option.

How Much Is Shipping?
$15 for US orders, which includes shipping, PayPal fees and handling charge. Canadian Customers will be sent First-Class for the exact postage + $2 handling fee.  In order to expedite your order we are shipping all US orders via USPS and using a Medium Flat-Rate box. In addition, we are including a $2 handling fee.

Why A Handling Fee?
We're trying to run this as lean as possible, but the handling fee is to offset the PayPal fees as well as incidental costs for packaging and shipping. Thankfully the boxes are free, but there are other costs to get your order to you and we don't want the proxies to lose money handling everyone's orders.

All of us will be keeping detailed records to account for all monies collected for shipping and although we don't expect their to be any, all profits will be donated to GeekHack for the operation of the forum.  For more details regarding on why GeekHack is accepting donations can be found here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73331.0).

When Do I Have To Pay For Shipping?
After the proxy has your order ready to ship. We first need to receive the goods from Samwisekoi and sort them into individual orders. This will ensure that your order is as complete as possible and that we have the goods in hand first. Once that is complete, we'll invoice you via PayPal for the shipping costs.

What About Assembly?
Assembly was being coordinated by the original leader of the group buy -- WhiteFireDragon (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15168). His abandonment of the group buy is what put us in the position that we're in now.  All of the volunteers involved in this salvage process have attempted to recover what we could, but assembly is no longer available.

Your Options
1. You can choose to solder the keyboard yourself (link (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0))
2. Hire a professional (link (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0))
3. Ask someone to volunteer here in the thread.

What's The Plan?
Below is an outline of how we plan to process everyone's order. The good news is that some of these items are already completed, so we're already making progress.

1. Receive the most current spreadsheet available from Matt3o

2. Sort through the spreadsheet and send back totals for each order

3. Order Shipping Materials

4. Send Confirmation E-mail To Order Holders

5. Receive Goods From Samwisekoi & Confirm Numbers

6. Send Invoices via PayPal

7. Receive Payment & Ship

8. Wrap Up Exceptions / Problems


Next Steps
As you can see from the outline above, our next step is to send out confirmation e-mails. The purpose of this e-mail is to verify your current address and provide you with what we have as your order. We'll update the thread when these go out.

Once the confirmation phase is complete, we'll be waiting for the order to arrive from Samwisekoi. We'll keep everyone posted along the way and if you have any questions, please post them in the thread so that we can all keep track.



PAYMENT DEADLINE: 06/30/13  >countdown< (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130701T00&p0=137&msg=GH60+Payment+Deadline)


What this is about


GH60 is a community-developed keyboard designed by komar007 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4818), with the original idea by jdcarpe (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17386). This keyboard's form factor is the same size as the KBC Poker or Pure (60% size of a full keyboard, hence the name). Main feature is that it uses the ATmega32u4 controller, which allows for every key to be programmable and a possibility for a custom secondary function layer as well. This single PCB will support many variants of ANSI, ISO, and other custom layouts detailed below.


[attach=1]

[attach=2]


Plate

Plates will make your keyboard will feel more solid overall and help disperse some of the typing stress. They’re optional, but most people do prefer it. Each layout will require a different plate. HHKB and winkeyless layouts can use any ANSI or ISO plate with 1.5x modifiers. I designed these so the top switch housing is removable without desoldering, which helps with swapping switches, springs, stems, lubing, or stickering later on. All the plates offered in here are stainless steel. They can be directly dropped in to existing cases. More details on this in the next post.
 
 compatibility:

 

 Cases
 - Plastic Poker case
 - Plastic Pure case
 - Imsto aluminum tray (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35213.0)
 - Oneproduct aluminum case (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29356.0)
 - Treble aluminum tray (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29827.0)
 - Pure’s aluminum CNC (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40814.0)
 - WhiteFireDragon’s design (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39599.0)
 - The_Beast’s design (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39787.0)
 - alixinhzai's acrylic case (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40468.0)
 
 
 
 Assembly
 The PCBs will come with all SMD preassembled, including diodes. Switches and LEDs will require your own soldering. If you’re brave and want to do the SMD soldering yourself, PCB and a bag of SMT components will be cheaper. There will be options for assembly service if you cannot build it yourself.
 
 If you’re assembling it yourself, the minimum equipment you’ll need is a Weller WLC-100 (http://goo.gl/okhmk) soldering station/iron and Rosin-core solder (http://goo.gl/lyrcx) (smaller than 0.04" diameter). Although it is doable with cheap $15 irons, that’s not recommended. In addition to the PCB, you will need the following to complete the build:
   
 
 
 Costs
PCB (SMD presoldered) - $28
PCB (DIY, includes SMT components) - $15
bare PCB
(no components) - $6
Plate
- $16
Switches - $0.63
cherry stabilizers - $9
Costar stabilizers - $7
Assembly - $25


The prices listed above is a ballpark now final. PCBs could be a tad lower, depending on quantity at the end, or possibly be a few dollars higher to account for import/VAT taxes or any other unforeseen fees. Same goes with plates and switches, it really depends on how many of each are ordered.
 
 
 
 Ordering
 Deadline to submit order is Monday, 04/22/13, payment deadline is 06/30/13. You’ve been given the payment date almost 2 months in advance, so start planning your budget accordingly! ETA for all parts will be around September if there are no major delays. Switches might take a little longer if you ordered them.
 
 >ORDER FORM [CLOSED]<

Order confirmation (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing)

>POLL< (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1unUyoHLIoy08OD-eu5l3zANaIjEw2We35CHHrZlFE_4/viewform)
poll results could affect the final PCB, plate, or features. So please vote!

>Order Changes<
 (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform)

 
Quote
Order example from this GB:
-1x GH60 PCB $30
-1x poker plate $16
-1x cherry (plate-mounted) stabilizer set, 6.25x spacbar wire $9
-63x MX red switches $38 (2 extra switch for defectives or broken pins)
-assembly service $25
 total $113

You'll still need to source the following for a complete keyboard:
-1x case
-1x USB cable
-1x keycap set

 
Logistics
 Komar designed and will have the PCBs made, I designed and will have the plates made. Jdcarpe and I will manage orders, but all of us will have access to the spreadsheets. Jdcarpe and I tjcaustin will handle US and Canada assembly and distributions, komar will assemble and distribute for EU and the rest of the world (unless you have a personal request or already have prior arrangements). Main reason is because it’s no longer cheap to ship international from the US. Switches are from 7bit. Tjcaustin will collect money and invoice.

 Misc links

 IC thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.0)
 Prototyping (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.0)
 Further feature development (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40514.0)
 
 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 21 March 2013, 02:40:24
Layouts and plates
 
 Here are some possible layouts, rendered with my case design and toxic green caps theme:
 
 ANSI 1.25x - Poker
[attach=13]
[attach=1]

 
 ANSI 1.25x with short R-Shift - Pure
[attach=14]
[attach=2]

 
 ANSI 1.5x - full 1.5x mod, WKL, or HHKB
[attach=15]
[attach=3] [attach=4] [attach=26]


ANSI 1.5x with short R-shift - full 1.5x mod, WKL, or "true" HHKB
[attach=24]
[attach=27] [attach=28] [attach=25]
 

 ANSI 1.5x with short R-shift and split backspace - full 1.5x mod, WKL, or "true" HHKB
[attach=33]
[attach=12] [attach=29]

 
 ISO 1.25x
[attach=16]
[attach=5]

 
 ISO 1.5x - full 1.5x mod, WKL, or HHKB
[attach=17]
[attach=6] [attach=7] [attach=30]

ISO 1.5x with short R-shift - full 1.5x mod, WKL, or HHKB
[attach=23]
[attach=31] [attach=32] [attach=8]

 
 IvanIvanovich (CANCELED)
[attach=9] 

 
 Samwisekoi
[attach=18]
[attach=11] 

 
 GH60 (max keys)
[attach=19]
[attach=10] 
 


Each of the layouts above will have their own plates (except WKL and HHKB, these just use any 1.5x plate), compatible with all 3 types of stabilizers. In addition, there will be 2 more “universal” plates available. These plates’ main feature is the support for any possible hybrid layout from above. You’ll also be able to completely change layout using the same plate, by desoldering only a few switches and shifting them over (or adding/subtracting switches) rather than desoldering all switches and installing a new plate. You’ll still be able to open up switch top covers like all the other plates. The drawback is that you must use PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers, no other stabilizers option. And although plate-mounted cherry switches should be sufficient, it’s recommended you use PCB-mounted switches for the ones that go in the larger cutout holes.
 
Universal ANSI
[attach=20]

Universal ISO
[attach=21]

Universal 10x spacebar (special order)
[attach=22]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 21 March 2013, 02:40:46
Assembly

PCB ($30) – You’ll only need to solder switches, a single LED (included) for the capslock, and a resistor (included). Everything you need to solder is through-hole. All SMD parts are pre-soldered at the factory by a pick-and-place machine.

DIY PCB ($15)
– You’ll need to solder EVERYTHING, including all SMD and through-hole components. The SMD components are provided (controller, few capacitors, resistors, single crystal, switch, USB, and roughly 65 diodes).

Disclaimer:
Make sure you know exactly what you're getting into when getting a bare DIY kit. There is no point in saving $15 when you can’t get the board working. This is not your typical soldering of large through-hole switch pins.
Parts are very small, so it's not recommended if you've never done SMD soldering before. The crystal was near impossible to do with a fine iron tip, I used hot air to solder up all the prototype boards. If you mess up, it's very hard to desolder these parts because both ends of the pads must be desoldered at the same time. You'll either need 2 irons, hot air, chipquik, or desoldering tweezers to remove the components. Wick braid could work, but I wouldn't bank on it. So with that many components you'll have to solder, don't plan on messing up.

Make sure you're absolutely clear on what you're doing. If getting the DIY kit, here is the SMD you'll need to do before starting on the switches:






If you have a hot air station:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z7nCAxS2Rg#t=9m37s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z7nCAxS2Rg#t=9m37s)


Komar's instructions for DIY HERE (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg717519#msg717519)





Stabilizers

Costar (Filco, CM, WASDkeyboards, DAS, etc)
Cherry plate-mounted (Ducky, Leopold, etc)
Cherry PCB-mounted (Poker, Korean customs, etc)

[attach=1] [attach=2] [attach=3]



 
Programming custom layouts
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg717519#msg717519 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg717519#msg717519)


Programming the firmware (Windows)

1. download and install FLIP (http://www.atmel.com/tools/FLIP.aspx (http://www.atmel.com/tools/FLIP.aspx))
2. connect the keyboard, press the program button (S1) and wait until it enumerates
3. go to device manager, find the atmega32u4 chip and click "update driver"
4. choose location manually: folder named "usb" inside the installation directory of FLIP
5. once the driver is installed, run flip
6. Device -> Select: choose ATMega32U4
7. Settings -> Communication -> USB, FLIP should show the signature at this point (58 1E 95 87)
8. File -> Load HEX file: choose the hex firmware: ukbdc_gh60-0.1.hex (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37570.0;attach=14474)
9. click "Run"
10. after programming is done, disconnect the device from USB and connect again.


Programming the firmware (Linux)
Download and install/compile/unpack dfu-programmer from http://dfu-programmer.sourceforge.net/ (http://dfu-programmer.sourceforge.net/).
Issue the following commands in the command prompt after connecting the device and pressing the programming button (S1). You may need root permissions or udev rules to do that.
sudo dfu-programmer atmega32u4 erase
sudo dfu-programmer atmega32u4 flash ukbdc_gh60-0.1.hex
sudo dfu-programmer atmega32u4 start
where ukbdc_gh60-0.1.hex (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37570.0;attach=14474) is the firmware file.
The keyboard should start working. If it doesn't, reconnect the cable.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: calavera on Thu, 21 March 2013, 02:58:28
Now I know why you're so busy :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: L4yercake on Thu, 21 March 2013, 03:03:04
HHKB ANSI 1.5 possible? 1.5 / 1.5 / 6.25 / 1.5 / 1.5 ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 03:16:14

Assembly service
If you want your GH60 assembled, please make sure to order all the switches you want on your board.
When we're ready to assemble we will ask you for a specification which defines which switches you want on your keyboard.
The specification can be as simple as "reds with a black under spacebar" or as complicated as a list or picture which shows which switch goes where.
Please note, that we may source the switches a bit later than we have have the boards ready, so ordering switches (no matter with or without assembly) may delay your shipment.


Building the prototype (SMD)
Please see the prototype soldering guide here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg717519#msg717519 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg717519#msg717519)
I'll also post an updated version when I get my hands on the first final boards.


Current status
Here's how the board looks now (July 9th 2013):
Top:
[attach=1]
Bottom:
[attach=2]

And here's the bug tracker: https://github.com/komar007/ghkb/issues?milestone=1&state=open (https://github.com/komar007/ghkb/issues?milestone=1&state=open)

Status updates
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg879125#msg879125 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg879125#msg879125) (June 4th 2013)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg943761#msg943761 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg943761#msg943761) (June 27th 2013)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg954327#msg954327 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg954327#msg954327) (July 9th 2013)


How to order switches
We have changed the "official" way of ordering switches.
The switches will be handled by 7bit @ deskthority (http://deskthority.net).
In order to order your switches, register an account on the deskthority (http://deskthority.net) forum and go to http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html) to see what's available and how to write messages to the bot. Please remember that the PCB-mounted switches have names ending with "/NW". For plate-mounted GH60 you need the standard switches, without that suffix.
Please take the switches available in preorder. Their prices are lower, and they will be available in September/October.
In the end of your message to the bot please include a single line containing the text: "GH60" (without the apostrophes). This will mean your switches will be sent to one of the distributors of GH60, which will allow to save on shipping. Alternatively, you can order switches in the same thread on your own, and not have them sent to us. Please remember, that you need to add GH60 if you have checked the "Assembly" option in the GH60 form, unless you want to send the switches to us on your own.


Example switch order for a GH60 poker layout with cherry mx blue on a plate to be sent to user CherryMX @ deskthority:
MXBLUEP 61
GH60
your@email_address.com


If you have ordered switches in the GH60 order form, please transfer your order to 7bit and remove your switch order from the form, using the "order changes" form.
If you leave switches in your GH60 order form, we will try to get the switches for you at the end of money collection, but we can't guarantee prices or delivery term, so your GH60 order may be prolonged.
We're sorry for the inconvenience, but it appeared that handling switches doesn't make much sense, since 7bit already has a very good system to do that, and we don't need additional overhead, having enough problems getting GH60s done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: TDub on Thu, 21 March 2013, 03:22:39
Finally the GB arrives!! Really nice mock-ups of the layout options!!! Now comes the part where I want to order way more of them then I need....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Loligagger on Thu, 21 March 2013, 03:27:46
Order submitted. Now to wait for the ghpad & WFD's combined case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Sai on Thu, 21 March 2013, 03:49:52
I'll submit my order later depending on WFD's case progress. :D
I am waiting for your HHKB aluminium case, bro.  :p :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: codyeatworld on Thu, 21 March 2013, 03:51:30
I ordered two for now!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: viasacra89 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 03:59:24
Ordered two DIY and two universal ansi plates. ^_^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glod on Thu, 21 March 2013, 04:20:01
holy ****, its here

yayyyyyy

The price i think is fair and the universal plates are cool

ill be signing up soon! for more than one :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 21 March 2013, 04:20:32
Could you make a Pure 1.5x plate? Or would you say the Universal plates would be just as sturdy? And in that case, why not just offer those plates to help increase orders and decrease costs? (And yes, I understand the stab dilemma between the two)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 21 March 2013, 04:24:33
Question that may solve my own above: for the ISO and ANSI HHKB layouts, is there a space available for the outside 1.5x key?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Broadmonkey on Thu, 21 March 2013, 04:32:52
Just to clear it up. All EU orders will be shipped from Komar (Poland) including plates?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: remedyhalopc on Thu, 21 March 2013, 04:42:41
plates are ~$35 or what?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 21 March 2013, 05:06:14
I think it's $16
Plate - $16(taken from first post)

I'll order when I get back from work. I really need to think about which plates I want to get.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tym on Thu, 21 March 2013, 06:05:01
Lookign forward! Would like to see shipping price before i commit! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 06:14:18
Told you guys it would be soon....


:D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 06:25:01

Lookign forward! Would liek to see shipping price before i commit! :D
Shipping to EU will be from EU, most probably from me. Depending on the country and availability of tracking it will be between $8 and $18 (assuming < 1kg per package)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 March 2013, 06:26:08
Just to double check, the switches are going to be included in this GB? So I don't have to look for switches outside of the buy right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 06:43:44
Correct. Just go ahead and order whatever amount and type of switches you want. The more the better. We will source them for you from where we can. No guarantees AT ALL for delivery schedule, though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 21 March 2013, 06:44:35
Nice job guys, looks great!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 March 2013, 06:45:15
Awww man, there goes my mental image of you, jdcarpe. I always imagined you as Spock, in a purple uniform, surrounded by mountains of boards and switches  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Thu, 21 March 2013, 06:55:33
Please add LEDs along with switches and stabilizers
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 21 March 2013, 06:56:08
What switches and in what layout need to be rotated?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Thu, 21 March 2013, 06:58:56
What are the options for assembly service?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jcrouse on Thu, 21 March 2013, 06:59:28
In post #2, reply#1, in the first sentence below the nice pics of all the keyboards with black and lime green caps you state that "each layout above will have its own plate". What am I missing? Don't the ANSI 1.5x, ANSI WKL and HHKB ANSI layouts use the same plate?

Thanks,
John
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 21 March 2013, 07:00:14
What are the options for assembly service?

Depends on the ship date, but I could assemble some GH60's
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 21 March 2013, 07:01:49
Wheee!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 07:04:45
Please add LEDs along with switches and stabilizers
LEDs and resistors come in standard with the PCB, and their price is already included.
Maybe we should add that info...
What switches and in what layout need to be rotated?
We'll try to have no switches rotated at 90 degrees. Only 0 and 180.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: affect656 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 07:11:26
On the order form the phrasing for switches/stabilizers was a bit odd (Switches and stabilizers (in sets, each set is enough for 1 whole keyboard)). So the way I took it to mean was you would order a set of switches and stabilizers not an exact number of them, if this is incorrect I'll submit a Order Change. Also would it be possible if we order assembly to just have you keep the assembled plate until a case is bought and also ship that to you then get a fully assembled keyboard at once? Doubt many would be interested but just thought I should ask.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: badcop on Thu, 21 March 2013, 07:17:39
ordered pcb and plate :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tmk1207 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 07:22:07
Great <3 . i'll order soon >:<
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 07:37:21
Is the HHKB ANSI not on the order form?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ideus on Thu, 21 March 2013, 07:46:29
Are the components available to be purchased individually, or should be purchased in sets?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 21 March 2013, 07:48:12
Thanks for free Toxic advertising :p

Ordered three PCBs and three plates.

Will there be a stabilizers and wire group buy soon? My only worry is I don't have enough spacebar wires but I think I have enough plate mount cherry stabilizers after desoldering several WYSE boards, and will probably have one set of costar stabilizers after taking apart something else.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ishumprod on Thu, 21 March 2013, 07:57:30
do the universal ansii plate fit the Ansii wkl layout ? if yes, what's the point of having a dedicated plate for WKL ansii layout ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:04:28
do the universal ansii plate fit the Ansii wkl layout ? if yes, what's the point of having a dedicated plate for WKL ansii layout ?

Because stabilizer support.

I have absolutely no idea whether I'm ordering right now or not...I hope I do, but I want a really nice Phantom, so this might not be in the budget... :(

GLWGB (not that this needs it...It's already extremely well known throughout here.)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ishumprod on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:07:47
do the universal ansii plate fit the Ansii wkl layout ? if yes, what's the point of having a dedicated plate for WKL ansii layout ?

Because stabilizer support.

I have absolutely no idea whether I'm ordering right now or not...I hope I do, but I want a really nice Phantom, so this might not be in the budget... :(

GLWGB (not that this needs it...It's already extremely well known throughout here.)

ok, but will the unversal plate allow me to go WKL ? (1.5 mod?)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: boost on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:11:07
Nice, ordered 3 :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: hoasican2004 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:11:57
wow, it's attractive, i will buy one....future ^^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:13:03
do the universal ansii plate fit the Ansii wkl layout ? if yes, what's the point of having a dedicated plate for WKL ansii layout ?

Because stabilizer support.

I have absolutely no idea whether I'm ordering right now or not...I hope I do, but I want a really nice Phantom, so this might not be in the budget... :(

GLWGB (not that this needs it...It's already extremely well known throughout here.)

ok, but will the unversal plate allow me to go WKL ? (1.5 mod?)

I believe that's the point, to allow any ANSI layout with supported switch locations.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:19:11
do the universal ansii plate fit the Ansii wkl layout ? if yes, what's the point of having a dedicated plate for WKL ansii layout ?

Because stabilizer support.

I have absolutely no idea whether I'm ordering right now or not...I hope I do, but I want a really nice Phantom, so this might not be in the budget... :(

GLWGB (not that this needs it...It's already extremely well known throughout here.)

ok, but will the unversal plate allow me to go WKL ? (1.5 mod?)

I believe that's the point, to allow any ANSI layout with supported switch locations.

Yes, this is correct. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ishumprod on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:23:20


//blablabla

I believe that's the point, to allow any ANSI layout with supported switch locations.

so what's te pointop haveing dedicated ones if the universal fits them all ?

maybe i just didn't undersood anything
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cyberwave on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:32:18


//blablabla

I believe that's the point, to allow any ANSI layout with supported switch locations.

so what's te pointop haveing dedicated ones if the universal fits them all ?

maybe i just didn't undersood anything

you cant use plate mounted stabilizers on the universal ones
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mashby on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:32:54
Ordered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: salmo on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:33:53
Man, I've been gathering stuff up for this for what feels like forever.  I'm so happy to have an order in for the board.  Outside of that all I lack is a case, which I'm debating between splurging on, or trying to do something myself.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy[
Post by: ishumprod on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:40:14
so can you guys  tell me what kind of stabs are tese ?

as i didn't desolder them i suppose they are plate-mounted but i'm not sure o the brand.

also wwill they fit a ansii layout ( WKL ) ?

(http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/15/img0462ac.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: agor on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:42:31
Ordered 2. Crossing fingers for Aluminum Case!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dsan on Thu, 21 March 2013, 08:51:25
Noob question -> Is there a way to see if the pcb is working without having switches soldered?I'm planning on buying all the components for the GH60 gradually,starting with case/pcb/plate and finally switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:23:22
Hey wow on so many levels! Thanks to all who made this so sweet and so soon!

We'll have to get Retro DSA as well as Retro Blue and Retro Green out to match this pace, AND we'll have to support all of those nice layouts!

Speaking of which, that 'samwisekoi' layout is meant to allow an embedded arrow pad.  I'll find and post a mockup, perhaps in Retro Green a la the Nuclear Data keyboard.

Anyhow, thanks very much!  Order coming soon.

 - Ron I samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:23:54
Order placed...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: llovro on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:32:49
How is with assembly for Europe? Is anyone going to do it? And stabilizers aren't included, are they?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mashby on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:33:53
We'll have to get Retro DSA as well as Retro Blue and Retro Green out to match this pace, AND we'll have to support all of those nice layouts!

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwcuhd4Gyx1qbcq69.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:34:55
How is with assembly for Europe? Is anyone going to do it? And stabilizers aren't incleded, are they?
I'm doing it.
The stabilizer problem is not solved yet. We'll see...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:36:12
What about GHPad integration?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:42:41
Buy some Cherry/GMK doubleshot modifiers (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.0), we have you covered for just about any possible layout you wish as long as you like purple!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:46:00
What switches and in what layout need to be rotated?
We'll try to have no switches rotated at 90 degrees. Only 0 and 180.

"We'll try" and "there are" are two different things. Are there any 90 degree switches anywhere on the board? If so what layouts and what switches?


I just wanna know so I can design a plate with the correct rotation of phantom cutouts
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:46:56
What about GHPad integration?
4-I/O extension port + all 5 rows are broken out.
We'll worry later, but it must be possible to integrate somehow. In the worst case just a ribbon cable between the boards somewhere inside the joined case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:49:38

"We'll try" and "there are" are two different things. Are there any 90 degree switches anywhere on the board? If so what layouts and what switches?


I just wanna know so I can design a plate with the correct rotation of phantom cutouts
PM'd
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:49:48
What about GHPad integration?
4-I/O extension port + all 5 rows are broken out.
We'll worry later, but it must be possible to integrate somehow. In the worst case just a ribbon cable between the boards somewhere inside the joined case.

Would it be possible to have just another USB connection going to the computer for the GHpad? I'm not loving the idea of an attached GHpad to my GH60
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:53:36
What about GHPad integration?
4-I/O extension port + all 5 rows are broken out.
We'll worry later, but it must be possible to integrate somehow. In the worst case just a ribbon cable between the boards somewhere inside the joined case.

Would it be possible to have just another USB connection going to the computer for the GHpad? I'm not loving the idea of an attached GHpad to my GH60

Of course, that's the main option!
Ribbon only in case of a common case, where it can be nicely hidden.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 21 March 2013, 09:55:25
What about GHPad integration?
4-I/O extension port + all 5 rows are broken out.
We'll worry later, but it must be possible to integrate somehow. In the worst case just a ribbon cable between the boards somewhere inside the joined case.

Would it be possible to have just another USB connection going to the computer for the GHpad? I'm not loving the idea of an attached GHpad to my GH60

Of course, that's the main option!
Ribbon only in case of a common case, where it can be nicely hidden.

Gottcha, thanks bub :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 10:09:19
Are we supposed to be able to acquire cases on our own? i kinda want one of The_Beast's cases
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 21 March 2013, 10:10:52
Are we supposed to be able to acquire cases on our own? i kinda want one of The_Beast's cases

Yes. Or you could go caseless.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 21 March 2013, 10:11:51
Use cardboard
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 10:12:28
cardboard case sounds nice
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ishumprod on Thu, 21 March 2013, 10:12:39
or go cardboard-case style ! that's the swaggy way, will post pics once i get my poker pcb and plate so i can get measurements and build one =P


edit : got ninja'd like a newb
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: zeththedarkmage on Thu, 21 March 2013, 10:52:07
Will there be an solderless option for people like me who don't know how to use a soldering iron that will have it all put together minus the case and the keycaps?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 10:53:10
Will there be an solderless option for people like me who don't know how to use a soldering iron that will have it all put together minus the case and the keycaps?
There is (in the first post). I'll add more info soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 21 March 2013, 10:56:17
I'm hoping someone may answer the questions regarding the plates soon. There have three or four people ask the same thing. I was ready to be like fourth in line to order, but things are a bit unclear...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 10:59:48
Could you make a Pure 1.5x plate? Or would you say the Universal plates would be just as sturdy? And in that case, why not just offer those plates to help increase orders and decrease costs? (And yes, I understand the stab dilemma between the two)

It's in the order form. "ANSI 1.5x (pure shift) plate quantity"

Some people may not want the "Universal" plate, because they want to use plate-mount stabilizers.


Question that may solve my own above: for the ISO and ANSI HHKB layouts, is there a space available for the outside 1.5x key?

Yes, the hole is there in the plate. If you get the HHKB cover option when you order the case, it simply covers that hole.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rknize on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:09:20
I assume that the SMD-soldered option will be pick-and-place and not hand-soldered by one of you?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:10:09
I assume that the SMD-soldered option will be pick-and-place and not hand-soldered by one of you?

You assume correctly, sir.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rknize on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:15:02
Great.  Do we need to keep the GB open for ~2 months?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:17:39
What's the difference between plate-mount stabs and pcb-mount?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:22:37
Great.  Do we need to keep the GB open for ~2 months?

I month until orders close, 3 weeks to get all payments...seemed reasonable to me. You need this like NAO, or what?


What's the difference between plate-mount stabs and pcb-mount?

Um, well, plate mount Cherry stabs mount to the stab holes in the plate. PCB mount Cherry stabs mount to some holes in the PCB. Costar stabs use a different design, and ONLY mount to a plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:28:11
Yeah, I mean if I were to order the universal plate or the specific plate. What are the difference between the 2 if I were to use the different stabilizers
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:35:24
Yeah, I mean if I were to order the universal plate or the specific plate. What are the difference between the 2 if I were to use the different stabilizers

Some people just prefer one over the other. I personally prefer Cherry plate mount, because every once in a while, while removing keycaps on a board with PCB mount Cherry stabs, the stab will pull out of the PCB and I have to reinsert it.

Some people prefer Costar. Some people don't have a preference. If you would rather have the convenience of a universal plate, and don't care about which stabilizers you use, then you have the option go that route.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: fruktstund on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:48:01
I've been thinking for a couple of hours now, and the best layout for me seems to be a ANSI WKL with 1.75x right shift and a function key to the right of that, HHKB style. I don't really like PCB mounted Cherry stabilizers though, so if the HHKB layout uses a 7x spacebar (which it seems to do), will this plate also have the holes for the outer bottom row 1.5x keys?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:51:34
Here is a layout for the GH60 "samwisekoi" -- including arrow keys.

[edit] I changed Shift_L to ISO 1.25 and added the tilde key.  WFD modified the 'samwisekoi' plate to match.  I will try to make all the 'special' keycaps available in the Klaxon/GH60/RGBY GB to come soon.[/edit]

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:56:28
Here is a layout for the GH60 "samwisekoi" -- including arrow keys.

WFD, I'd like to change Shift_R to ISO 1.25 and add the tilde key.  Can this be done for that version of the plate?

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)


It's not the plate. The PCB doesn't support a 1.25 R_Shift. That wasn't in our design.


My bad.  Shift_L.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

:D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 21 March 2013, 11:57:23
Here is a layout for the GH60 "samwisekoi" -- including arrow keys.

WFD, I'd like to change Shift_L to ISO 1.25 and add the tilde key.  Can this be done for that version of the plate?

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

It's not the plate. The PCB doesn't support a 1.25 R_Shift. That wasn't in our design.

My bad.  Shift_L.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nebo on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:05:09
Oh man, I really want this but I want my phantom too and I can't have both! More keys or an awesome HHKB w/ clears? Decisions decisions.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:07:10
You already know which decision is the right one...:D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:07:43
You already know which decision is the right one...:D
Both!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glod on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:09:06
both multiplied by two :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:13:53
going to get 1 hhkb now and 1 poker one possibly later...need to find the best plate for the hhkb
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nebo on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:14:55
You already know which decision is the right one... :D
Both!
Welcome to GH where if you don't own all the GBs you own none of them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:16:23
going to get 1 hhkb now and 1 poker one possibly later...need to find the best plate for the hhkb

ansi 1.5x
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:31:54
Gonna place an order on sunday :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:36:40
A huge THANK YOU for unsoldered option!!! Yes it's more tedious, but also more fun for me.  Will have to scan the local craigslist for a used toaster oven and get some paste, been a few years since I did production like that! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:37:31
You can always do it with a good soldering iron!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:37:42
I might have to start selling off my boards to buy more of these. It's all the stuff I like about my poker and pure, without the annoying parts.


Also, when it says "the switch color you want" is that any cherry color? Like can we do clears/grays/greens?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:41:32
I might have to start selling off my boards to buy more of these. It's all the stuff I like about my poker and pure, without the annoying parts.


Also, when it says "the switch color you want" is that any cherry color? Like can we do clears/grays/greens?

considering selling my das for another one of these...i want 2
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tricheboars on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:41:51
Placed order for 2 SMD presoldered GH60 PCBs, 1 Ansi 1.5x Plate, 2 sets of costar stabs, 1 set of mx green switches, 1 set of mx red switches.

i was not sure if 7bit has MX Green Switches. If this is not possible that is cool, I can adapt.

This is very very exciting stuff. I am curious about assembly service. I could be interested in having that done to one of my boards depending on cost.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH YOU MAKE THIS THE BEST WEBSITE ON THE NET.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:42:59
I might have to start selling off my boards to buy more of these. It's all the stuff I like about my poker and pure, without the annoying parts.


Also, when it says "the switch color you want" is that any cherry color? Like can we do clears/grays/greens?

Hope so, I want to try milk/white switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:43:39


considering selling my das for another one of these...i want 2

I know man, I want a linear (gray) and clicky (green or white) for sure, and maybe a tactile non clicky (clear).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:44:59
going to get 1 hhkb now and 1 poker one possibly later...need to find the best plate for the hhkb

ansi 1.5x

should i get ansi 1.5x or ansi 1.5 pure shift? i think i need to get the ansi 1.5 pure shift plate right? the real hhkb has a small 1.75 shift i think
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:46:09


considering selling my das for another one of these...i want 2

I know man, I want a linear (gray) and clicky (green or white) for sure, and maybe a tactile non clicky (clear).

i just got a poker with clears like 2 days ago. i want either greens/whites or tactile greys on my gh60...can't decide..why not just get 2!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:48:24
going to get 1 hhkb now and 1 poker one possibly later...need to find the best plate for the hhkb

ansi 1.5x

(http://i.imgur.com/8W2Nlxi.png)

look what i mean
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tricheboars on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:48:41
(http://genophoria.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:56:11
will there be a case made for hhkb ansi?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:58:04
Ordered two populated boards and one plate; will come back and order more...

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)w
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: osxoep on Thu, 21 March 2013, 12:59:19
Ahhh. I'm looking forward to a 1.5x ISO HHKB.

I'm not sure on what stabilisers to use though. Or switch colour, maybe whites (if possible).

And I want to wait and see how much The_Beast's case will be.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:01:07
will there be a case made for hhkb ansi?

that's what i was asking....WhiteFireDragon himself is making a case that can have a top for hhkb ansi...so i think so
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:09:00
Would I have to order a separate plate if i buy WhiteFireDragons case?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:11:34
will there be a case made for hhkb ansi?

that's what i was asking....WhiteFireDragon himself is making a case that can have a top for hhkb ansi...so i think so

His case is only for WKL ANSI

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_2.png
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:13:42
will there be a case made for hhkb ansi?

that's what i was asking....WhiteFireDragon himself is making a case that can have a top for hhkb ansi...so i think so

His case is only for WKL ANSI

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_2.png

"4) modular top cover - The top cover has 3 different designs, allows you to choose a winkeyless cover, HHKB style, or standard full keys"

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39599.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Permeability on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:14:49
These will be using PCB Mount switches right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: fruktstund on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:14:49
His case is only for WKL ANSI

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_2.png

Look at the second post of this thread.

Quote from: WhiteFireDragon
Here are some possible layouts, rendered with my case design

In the second post you have some possible layouts. These are rendered with his case design.

:)

These will be using PCB Mount switches right?
Both PCB mounted and plate mounted switches will be possible to use, although I believe you won't be able to use plate-mounted switches if you choose to not have a plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:14:59
will there be a case made for hhkb ansi?

that's what i was asking....WhiteFireDragon himself is making a case that can have a top for hhkb ansi...so i think so

His case is only for WKL ANSI

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/case/GH70-ASMBL_2.png

"4) modular top cover - The top cover has 3 different designs, allows you to choose a winkeyless cover, HHKB style, or standard full keys"

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39599.0


Nice.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:18:42
yeah i really want that aluminum case or the hhkb layout. i think it would be sexy. i am still trying to find the right plate. someone suggested 1.5x ANSI but i think we need a shorter shift bar..

Would I have to order a separate plate if i buy WhiteFireDragons case?

I think he is making a GB at some point
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:28:05
then get the universal plate?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:32:51
then get the universal plate?

universal plate for hhkb ansi layout? i don't think that would work
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:35:24
Daumn this happened quick.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:36:09
Wow I just posted the OP, woke up and it's on page 4 already. My inbox is flooded so give me time to catch up with posts in here and PMs. Also, if you have a non-personal question, just post it in here rather than PM me, some people might have the same question.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:39:42
Wow I just posted the OP, woke up and it's on page 4 already. My inbox is flooded so give me time to catch up with posts in here and PMs. Also, if you have a non-personal question, just post it in here rather than PM me, some people might have the same question.

i shot you a pm just take your time haha

everyone has been waiting for this for a long time
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:41:08
Wow I just posted the OP, woke up and it's on page 4 already. My inbox is flooded so give me time to catch up with posts in here and PMs. Also, if you have a non-personal question, just post it in here rather than PM me, some people might have the same question.

It's okay, buddy. Glad you got to rest. komar and I have been answering questions as best we can. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:53:52
One question please:

I have yet to receive my prototype (with prof). What are the differences from this and the prototype? Can the prototype use all these different layouts and fit the plates?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 13:59:06
The prototype lacks the option of split backspace. Also, several of the switches (mostly bottom row and modifiers) are rotated 90 degrees on prototype. The only 90 degree rotated switch on the final revision should be the ISO enter switch, unless komar has something to add otherwise.

Edit: also, the extra pins of the 32u4 controller are broken out to pads on the final revision, which the prototype lacks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:00:59
That's right.
If you don't have a problem with rotated switches, the prototype's fine.
I think I won't have to rotate anything. It seems everything fits. Except for some overlapping holes, but that's better than rotated switches I think.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:04:00
I have a question about the 2 PCB options. And the assembly service. If I have no experience at all jnapdlering and don't have access to soldering, what hold I be ordering? I think km going to be ordering the assemg service, but what is the extent of the assembly service?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:06:30
I have a question about the 2 PCB options. And the assembly service. If I have no experience at all jnapdlering and don't have access to soldering, what hold I be ordering? I think km going to be ordering the assemg service, but what is the extent of the assembly service?

Order the assembled PCBs ($40) and assembly service ($25). DIY PCBs are ONLY if you want to do everything, including SMD soldering, yourself.

Also, the assembly service consists of installing switches in the plate (if used), and soldering them to the PCB. Firmware will be flashed to your controller. If a case is purchased (if it ships with these), then installation into the case is included. And testing to ensure everything works properly.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:12:46
You can always do it with a good soldering iron!

Oh believe me, that's not a problem. I just miss smd production, lol. Hand soldering 0603 size discrete components, fine pitch chips, etc no problem. Would just like to play with paste and baking again. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:17:21
I have a question about the 2 PCB options. And the assembly service. If I have no experience at all jnapdlering and don't have access to soldering, what hold I be ordering? I think km going to be ordering the assemg service, but what is the extent of the assembly service?

Order the assembled PCBs ($40) and assembly service ($25). DIY PCBs are ONLY if you want to do everything, including SMD soldering, yourself.

Ok cool. Are a few LEDs going to be an option? Can I as that in the comments?

And there is no update on the tracking number :( I hope I get it tomorrow!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:20:23
Ok cool. Are a few LEDs going to be an option? Can I as that in the comments?

Only 1 LED is supported, on Caps Lock. Not sure about color options...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:21:34
And there is no update on the tracking number :( I hope I get it tomorrow!


These are months from shipping. You understand GB take time
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:24:36
Ok cool. Are a few LEDs going to be an option? Can I as that in the comments?

Only 1 LED is supported, on Caps Lock. Not sure about color options...

Aww boo I wish I could get 4 on my wasd keys


And there is no update on the tracking number :( I hope I get it tomorrow!


These are months from shipping. You understand GB take time

I bought a poker from jdcarpe last week... We are talking about that. I heard the gh60s are coming in September/October
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:24:39
And there is no update on the tracking number :( I hope I get it tomorrow!


These are months from shipping. You understand GB take time

He was referring to the Poker I sold him.

I bought a poker from jdcarpe last week... We are talking about that. I heard the gh60s are coming in September/October

Technically, you bought it yesterday. That's when I received your payment. :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:29:37

Aww boo I wish I could get 4 on my wasd keys

Most probably there will be wasd leds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:29:48
Gottcha, assumed that since this was the Gh60 thread....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:31:56

Aww boo I wish I could get 4 on my wasd keys

Most probably there will be wasd leds.

Yay for hole drilling! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:42:08
Got in my order finally. Let me know if I need to clarify my stab and wire wishes. My GH60 arsenal shall be grand (well three in total isn't really GRAND, but..)!!

I hope many people get in on this as I think it's a really awesome little keyboard. And custom stuff is always cool ;).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:44:34

Aww boo I wish I could get 4 on my wasd keys

Most probably there will be wasd leds.

Yay for hole drilling! :D

YAAA! I will put it in the comments section that I want wasd LEDs...maybe some more.jd I like how the poker has some of the modifier keys with LEDs. Pretty cool
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glod on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:45:20
OK, semi-big order placed with form; I'm down for 3 of these plus 1 do-the-smd-yourself kit (which ill mess up likely); I'm building one for someone though if that sounds a bit much lol. Looks like ill have a 60% keyboard army; like a mini-jdcarpe collection lolol.

let me know if i messed up the form instructions around the stabs.

with so many people involved it sounds like this could run extremely smooth; I just wish you collected payment a week or two earlier than what you have set.  This is the keyboard I've been waiting for unless the ergodox does actually work out (i have my doubts about it). No KMAC for me (*ducks*).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:49:10
By the way, "Forum name" means your name on the forum. We know the forum is called Geekhack. We have several orders from "Geekhack."  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:53:47
what are the options for the switches?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MarkPharaoh on Thu, 21 March 2013, 14:55:08
By the way, "Forum name" means your name on the forum. We know the forum is called Geekhack. We have several orders from "Geekhack."  ;D

lol.

Man, there are so many options to choose from! Kind of want a HHKB layout to go with my actual HHKB, but the ANSI WKL would also rock.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 15:08:09
Are can we get any type of switch? I'm looking at grey and whites
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 21 March 2013, 15:10:06
Over 80 PCBs ordered in 12 hours, and almost the same amount for plates.


I'll submit my order later depending on WFD's case progress. :D

1/3 of the PMs I got was regarding the case, so I'll just say it to everyone. I'm not going to integrate any of the cases in this GB. Mine specifically, it just has too many parts and many options, which will complicate the ordering. I also don't want my case to delay this GB at all, so it's going to stay separate.



Is the HHKB ANSI not on the order form?

ISO or ANSI 1.5x plate is compatible with 3 layouts: WKL, HHKB, and normal 1.5x bottom row modifier. They all use this same plate, but the specific layout will depend on which top case cover you choose. Obviously if you use a stock poker/pure case, you can't have a WKL or HHKB layout since you can't cover up those certain keys. So in the order form, if you want a WKL or HHKB, then you need to pick the ANSI or ISO 1.5x plate. That was mentioned in the order form, but I hope this clarifies that.



What switches and in what layout need to be rotated?

If you look at the PCB pic in the OP, all of the switches are either not rotated or rotated at 180degree. This doesn't affect your caps. The Only one that as a 270degree rotation is the ISO-enter, which is suppose to be rotated anyways.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Thu, 21 March 2013, 15:15:14
WFD, is there any option for a plate similar to your WFD150?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/plates/th_HHK150.png

Id be interested in that so I would be confident in the switches staying in place adverse to using the universal ansi.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 21 March 2013, 15:18:56
So the $25 option comes with everything you need just not soldered together? Just want to make sure I wouldn't have to source diodes and such myself.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 15:22:45
So the $25 option comes with everything you need just not soldered together? Just want to make sure I wouldn't have to source diodes and such myself.

Yes, components included.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: phetto on Thu, 21 March 2013, 15:26:51
Wooooohoo!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 21 March 2013, 15:28:33
what are the options for the switches?
Are can we get any type of switch? I'm looking at grey and whites

Switches and stabilizers

I was a little reluctant to include switches and stabilizers with this GB at first, because it'll just further complicate ordering, choices, invoice, and organization/management. But I figured it'll be a tad cheaper and easier to have a centralized place to get stuff.

7bit will just send 1 large order directly to us. Feel free to get it directly from him. We're not in control of how much they cost, choices, and when they're available. But ordering large amounts in a GB can be cheaper for everyone. Refer HERE (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html) for direct info and which switch choices are available. Then just fill out which ones you want in the order form.

As for stabilizers, I only have plate-mounted cherries, but I believe alaricljs will get a bunch of PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers soon. You can get Costars directly from WASDkeyboards, or if there are enough orders for the costars at the end, we'll put a large order for those as well. The problem is the spacebar wires. They can't be bought anywhere, so they'll have to be made. I'll post a guide so you can make your own. I'll make as many as I can, but it takes me ~10 minutes each, so I don't think I'll be making 200+ of them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rknize on Thu, 21 March 2013, 15:31:29
I don't think the OP specifies what the plates are made out of.  Can we assume SS?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Winther on Thu, 21 March 2013, 15:38:56
a few noob questions:

Does/will the firmware support nordic ISO characters aswell?

I might be wrong, but havent there been talk about LED option in the escape key too?

What stabilizers do Ducky keyboards use? Is cherry?


I think thats all for now, will probably drop an order in the next few days.. :P great work on this!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: london00 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:00:17
Order submitted, thanks for making this happen and organizing it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: multipla on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:03:24
Is this limitation to PCB mount Cherry stabs with the universal plates only for keys in the large cutout holes, or for all?
Can I use regular plate mount Cherry stabs for the spacebar and enter (with the universal ISO Plate)?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cobraj on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:06:21
Hmm.
Want to get a layout different from the Poker, but I don't want to have to go around finding special sized keycaps etc :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:09:53
Can universal plate fit the GH60 layout?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:12:26
I don't think the OP specifies what the plates are made out of.  Can we assume SS?

Myrrh
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:15:22
Ok cool. Are a few LEDs going to be an option? Can I as that in the comments?

Only 1 LED is supported, on Caps Lock. Not sure about color options...

Aw damn, I was hoping the board had backlight support and just didn't come with LEDs.

Guess I'll have to keep my pure around for that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: 7bit on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:21:07
Ok cool. Are a few LEDs going to be an option? Can I as that in the comments?

Only 1 LED is supported, on Caps Lock. Not sure about color options...

Aw damn, I was hoping the board had backlight support and just didn't come with LEDs.

Guess I'll have to keep my pure around for that.

Just wait for the HyperMini. It will at least come with holes for the LEDs, but might happen that some need to be wired manually.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:28:36
I'm going to sell the ErgoDox I ordered to get one or two of these.

Great work by all involved!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:32:38
Ok cool. Are a few LEDs going to be an option? Can I as that in the comments?

Only 1 LED is supported, on Caps Lock. Not sure about color options...

Aw damn, I was hoping the board had backlight support and just didn't come with LEDs.

Guess I'll have to keep my pure around for that.

Just wait for the HyperMini. It will at least come with holes for the LEDs, but might happen that some need to be wired manually.



You'll have to wait for Round 4 to complete first, sometime next year, is it?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:33:52
Ok cool. Are a few LEDs going to be an option? Can I as that in the comments?

Only 1 LED is supported, on Caps Lock. Not sure about color options...

Aw damn, I was hoping the board had backlight support and just didn't come with LEDs.

Guess I'll have to keep my pure around for that.

Just wait for the HyperMini. It will at least come with holes for the LEDs, but might happen that some need to be wired manually.



You'll have to wait for Round 4 to complete first, sometime next year, is it?


This makes me a sad panda :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Loligagger on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:36:43
On WFD's case there are tabs that stick out of the plate that sandwich between the top and bottom pieces of the case. Would it be possible to have those on the plates ordered here? Or should I just wait until the GB for the GH70 case starts up to grab a plate?

Just to confirm, the plates will be stainless steel right? Also if LED color options become available I'd go for white.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:38:17
Yes, I believe these plates will be stainless steel.

If you want the integrated plate, you'll have to wait for the case GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:39:37

Just wait for the HyperMini. It will at least come with holes for the LEDs, but might happen that some need to be wired manually.

As nice as that would be, the wiring manually is kinda a deal killer for leds. As far as I'm concerned it's every key, indicators only, or no keys. And every key would be such a pain to wire. And messy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:49:37
On WFD's case there are tabs that stick out of the plate that sandwich between the top and bottom pieces of the case. Would it be possible to have those on the plates ordered here? Or should I just wait until the GB for the GH70 case starts up to grab a plate?

Also if LED color options become available I'd go for white.

Dedicated plates for my case is separate, only available when that GB opens. I'm not completely done with prototyping that whole case/plate combo yet. But good news for plates offered here, is that you can just directly drop it with my case with no modding. It'll just sit on the standoff (like stock plastic poker case) instead of being screwed down to the case.


As of now, the only LED is the capslock (maybe WASD later on), so all the PCBs will come with one color. It's just too complicated for many options and to manage/match up orders for a single LED. They're only around 20cents so if you don't like the color it comes with, feel free to source your own.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:53:53
The problem is the spacebar wires. They can't be bought anywhere, so they'll have to be made. I'll post a guide so you can make your own. I'll make as many as I can, but it takes me ~10 minutes each, so I don't think I'll be making 200+ of them.

All kind of spacebar wires or only Cherry type?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:56:21
6.25x Costar wires available. I don't think anyone is bending 7x Costar wires.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Thu, 21 March 2013, 16:57:20
Dedicated plates for my case is separate, only available when that GB opens. I'm not completely done with prototyping that whole case/plate combo yet. But good news for plates offered here, is that you can just directly drop it with my case with no modding. It'll just sit on the standoff (like stock plastic poker case) instead of being screwed down to the case.

What plate layouts you are going to offer?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: longweight on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:04:30
We need a HHKB case!
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:06:04
We need a HHKB case!

There's one on the way, just have to wait :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tricheboars on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:15:33
I feel sorry for The_Beast and WhiteFireDragon's GH inboxes.  I can only imagine how many messages they got about cases today.  I shall wait.

For us first time DIY builders, do you guys have a book or guide I could check out for soldering?  This is something i have always been interested in since my A+ days in the 90's.  Plus, i am obsessed with keyboards so the time is now.  I am stocking up expecting my first attempt to be disastrous (i learn best through failure for some damn reason) but if at all possible I would like to go into the GH60 with a practiced hand or at least some base knowledge of what i am doing.  I found some photo guides but I have trouble understanding the processes that take place between the photos.  I also checked out our wiki with no positive results for soldering and desoldering plate mounted switches onto PCBs.   I am sure there are many like minded people like me who could use some advice from the experts.  I also understand that the only real way for me to learn how to do this is to actually do this. I just dont have any idea what i am doing.

I could document my full build process with videos and what have you, but you guys cant ridicule me when i set my table on fire and melt my PCBs while crying.  However, if it gets laughs it could be worth it.



Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:17:09
For us first time DIY builders, do you guys have a book or guide I could check out for soldering?

Subscribe to WhiteFireDragon's channel on YouTube.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ishumprod on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:19:12
look on youtube for people soldering swithes, i know there are some. i can't really help you through internet, i am very bad at it
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: myndzi on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:22:50
Oh yes please! I'm not feeling adventurous to make this my first soldering project, but will gladly pay for assembly. Do I need to order the DIY kit if I'm going to go that route?

Edit: I can see the volunteers getting swamped easily, so I suppose it'll depend on the load. Anyone have a ballpark figure for how much the soldering stuff would cost?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:26:12
Assembly service is $25, according to the OP
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Loligagger on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:27:30
Dedicated plates for my case is separate, only available when that GB opens. I'm not completely done with prototyping that whole case/plate combo yet. But good news for plates offered here, is that you can just directly drop it with my case with no modding. It'll just sit on the standoff (like stock plastic poker case) instead of being screwed down to the case.


As of now, the only LED is the capslock (maybe WASD later on), so all the PCBs will come with one color. It's just too complicated for many options and to manage/match up orders for a single LED. They're only around 20cents so if you don't like the color it comes with, feel free to source your own.

Alright sounds good, threw in a request to change my order then. You planning on SS for your plates as well?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: myndzi on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:29:29
Yeah, but I'm not sure whether I need to put the DIY kit on the order form to provide the parts or if that's assumed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:37:54
(http://pcbwing.com/images/SupriseCoupon.gif)
http://pcbwing.com/Surprise.php#

This was on PCBwing's website today. IDK if you guys know already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:49:03
Thanks, duq. That's been there like forever. Haha.

myndzi, don't order the DIY PCB if you want assembly. That's only for people who want to do ALL the soldering, including the SMD soldering, by themselves. If you want an assembled PCB with switches soldered, firmware loaded, etc., you need to order the standard PCB ($40) plus the assembly service ($25), plus switches, stabilizers, and plate if you want a plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ishumprod on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:50:01
hmm there was a thread on classifieds where some guy sold all mounted pokers for monies, you could check there.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 17:51:30
What would the price of a poker, with MX blues, costar, and fully put together be?

Assuming you mean GH60 with Poker layout plate. I'm assuming 61 MX Blues would cost around $50, plus $90 for the rest you mentioned. About $140 total.


hmm there was a thread on classifieds where some guy sold all mounted pokers for monies, you could check there.

That was me (one of the threads, anyway). And both of the Pokers have been sold.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Brown on Thu, 21 March 2013, 18:13:36
On a scale of 1 - 10 how hard would this be for a person who has some soldering experience but hasn't dealt with mechanical keyboards at all?  I'm very interested and want to make my first keyboard the best.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 March 2013, 18:15:40

(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01742_zps54a39194.jpg)

Looking forward to number 2.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: csimi on Thu, 21 March 2013, 18:20:28
Why do you mention FLIP in the Windows firmware guide but not DFU? Java is an exploit and virus landmine.
DFU works well on Windows with the HID Liberation Device. Is it different for the GH60?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Luke on Thu, 21 March 2013, 18:24:20
WOOP!!!! :D Oh and are we still having LED's on WASD? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: deazncy on Thu, 21 March 2013, 18:29:51
Wow! How much would it cost to have a basic kb with a Pure layout and mx blacks assembled?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 21 March 2013, 18:32:09
Ordered! Thanks guys!
Beast I ordered 3 so I hope you will be down to do some more work in the future.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 March 2013, 18:35:00
Wow! How much would it cost to have a basic kb with a Pure layout and mx blacks assembled?

Probably around $124, not including a case.

Remember, this keyboard is fully programmable, every key. This isn't just an off-the-shelf 60%.


Ordered! Thanks guys!
Beast I ordered 3 so I hope you will be down to do some more work in the future.

Once you go Beast, you never go...east? :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 21 March 2013, 18:38:34
You never go yeast. Flatbread it is.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: eyesmiles on Thu, 21 March 2013, 18:40:58
You know it's all bad when you're in a meeting and all you can think about is placing an order for the gh60 GB. :p I was counting off in my head how many plate-mounted cherry stabs I needed. I am assuming that it would be ok to just gather parts and PM people at a later date for assembly. I have an acquaintance with a shop that wants to mess around and powder coat the poker plate that beast has a GB for. I know the cases that beast and WFD are still coming together as well. And of course, 7bit's switch order won't come around until Sept/Oct.

Anyhoo, thank you to everyone who's made the gh60 come to fruition. I can't even imagine the numerous amounts of PMs WFD, jdcarpe, komar, etc. have in their inboxes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 21 March 2013, 18:58:23
There are more DIY PCB kits ordered than I thought. I know price is attractive, but I want you to make sure you know exactly what you're getting into when getting a DIY kit. This is not your typical soldering of large through-hole switch pins. All the SMD components are provided, but you'll have to solder them on yourself. The pre-soldered boards have all the SMD done at the factory by a pick-and-place machine.

There is a ATmega32u4 controller, few capacitors, resistors, single crystal, switch, USB, and roughly 61 diodes that needs SMD soldering. Parts are very small, so it's not recommended if you've never done SMD soldering before. The crystal was near impossible to do with a fine iron tip, I used hot air to solder up all the prototype boards. If you mess up, it's very hard to desolder these parts because both ends of the pads must be desoldered at the same time. You'll either need 2 irons, hot air, chipquik, or desoldering tweezers to remove the components. Wick braid could work, but I wouldn't bank on it. So with that many components you'll have to solder, don't plan on messing up.

This is a run through of the whole SMD process if you're getting DIY kits. It's 2-3 hour process assuming you don't mess up. Make sure you're absolutely clear on what you're doing. I'll link this in the OP as well


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:11:11
Ordered! Thanks guys!
Beast I ordered 3 so I hope you will be down to do some more work in the future.

Depends on when these come. If it's during my summer break, I'd be game for some soldering and modding
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: justin one on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:14:23
I ordered one assembled and one not. Can't wait!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:19:11
On a scale of 1 - 10 how hard would this be for a person who has some soldering experience but hasn't dealt with mechanical keyboards at all?  I'm very interested and want to make my first keyboard the best.

Shouldn't matter if you've ever touched a keyboard if you can solder.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:23:34
On a scale of 1 - 10 how hard would this be for a person who has some soldering experience but hasn't dealt with mechanical keyboards at all?  I'm very interested and want to make my first keyboard the best.

Shouldn't matter if you've ever touched a keyboard if you can solder.

In a lot of ways, having just the smt soldered for $25 is nice as it's tedious and time consuming for something that is relatively easy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:33:03

In a lot of ways, having just the smt soldered for $25 is nice as it's tedious and time consuming for something that is relatively easy.

Though still not something that great for someone who has never smt soldered before seeing as it's only 15 bucks more for all those tough parts to be pre-soldered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:34:54
On a scale of 1 - 10 how hard would this be for a person who has some soldering experience but hasn't dealt with mechanical keyboards at all?  I'm very interested and want to make my first keyboard the best.

Shouldn't matter if you've ever touched a keyboard if you can solder.

Wow.  People are buying the DIY kit for the build-it-yourself experience?  I have decades of soldering experience, and don't think WFD went far enough in explaining just how delicate and unforgiving SMD soldering is.  It is (literally) like soldering an ant to a piece of screen.  One tiny ant-leg at a time.  There is a reason these are done with pick-and-place machines.  It is really, really hard.  And VERY hard to undo mistakes.

If you are a pretty good at soldering, then spend the $40 and get the ":assembled" board.  You will stil have to solder 120+ switch leads, at least one LED, burn the firmware, customize it if desired, etc.  And that is with the NON-DIY kit.

If you've never soldered before, don't even think about the DIY kit.  If you're handy with tools or have just a little soldering experience, then go to the local electronics recycling center, grab a few large circuit boards and spend a few evenings de-soldering and re-soldering the components with wire leads that go through the board.  That should give you plenty of experience to make this almost fun.

Also, get a good soldering iron.  I only use Weller irons, although there are some other good brands.  There is a reason that some irons are $50 and some with the same specs are $5.  Think of Weller as the Cherry MX of soldering equipment.

This is a keyboard forum, not a ham-radio forum.  Absolutely zero people here will think any less of anyone for skipping the SMD part of this.  And for sure you aren't going to save money unless you already have the equipment to do that delicate of a job.

If you have enough dexterity to care about keyboard switches, you can probably build one.  But let the robots do their job first.

</rant>

WFD, thank you very much for the warning message and the video!

Yet another good job in the GH60 stack of good jobs!

Cheers!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:35:47
if the keyboard is fully programable, how do we assign what key to what? i  am planning on getting a hhkb layout, but i want the two keys in between the space bar and Alt keys to be winkeys..i think on the real hhkb they are 2 'meta' keys which i would switch to winkeys. also, i heard if i want hhkb, i should be ordering a ANSI 1.5x plate. on the real hhkb, there is a small right shift, just like the pure, with fn (instead of ` on the pure). should i be ordering ANSI 1.5x PURE plate instead? to incorporate the fn key on the hhkb?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cobraj on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:36:52
On a scale of 1 - 10 how hard would this be for a person who has some soldering experience but hasn't dealt with mechanical keyboards at all?  I'm very interested and want to make my first keyboard the best.

Shouldn't matter if you've ever touched a keyboard if you can solder.

Wow.  People are buying the DIY kit for the build-it-yourself experience?  I have decades of soldering experience, and don't think WFD went far enough in explaining just how delicate and unforgiving SMD soldering is.  It is (literally) like soldering an ant to a piece of screen.  One tiny ant-leg at a time.  There is a reason these are done with pick-and-place machines.  It is really, really hard.  And VERY hard to undo mistakes.

If you are a pretty good at soldering, then spend the $40 and get the ":assembled" board.  You will stil have to solder 120+ switch leads, at least one LED, burn the firmware, customize it if desired, etc.  And that is with the NON-DIY kit.

If you've never soldered before, don't even think about the DIY kit.  If you're handy with tools or have just a little soldering experience, then go to the local electronics recycling center, grab a few large circuit boards and spend a few evenings de-soldering and re-soldering the components with wire leads that go through the board.  That should give you plenty of experience to make this almost fun.

Also, get a good soldering iron.  I only use Weller irons, although there are some other good brands.  There is a reason that some irons are $50 and some with the same specs are $5.  Think of Weller as the Cherry MX of soldering equipment.

This is a keyboard forum, not a ham-radio forum.  Absolutely zero people here will think any less of anyone for skipping the SMD part of this.  And for sure you aren't going to save money unless you already have the equipment to do that delicate of a job.

If you have enough dexterity to care about keyboard switches, you can probably build one.  But let the robots do their job first.

</rant>

WFD, thank you very much for the warning message and the video!

Yet another good job in the GH60 stack of good jobs!

Cheers!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
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It's good you are clearing this all up =D
Would hate if people bought it, and couldn't even use it, especially after all the anticipation for this board :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Brown on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:42:51
On a scale of 1 - 10 how hard would this be for a person who has some soldering experience but hasn't dealt with mechanical keyboards at all?  I'm very interested and want to make my first keyboard the best.

Shouldn't matter if you've ever touched a keyboard if you can solder.

Wow.  People are buying the DIY kit for the build-it-yourself experience?  I have decades of soldering experience, and don't think WFD went far enough in explaining just how delicate and unforgiving SMD soldering is.  It is (literally) like soldering an ant to a piece of screen.  One tiny ant-leg at a time.  There is a reason these are done with pick-and-place machines.  It is really, really hard.  And VERY hard to undo mistakes.

If you are a pretty good at soldering, then spend the $40 and get the ":assembled" board.  You will stil have to solder 120+ switch leads, at least one LED, burn the firmware, customize it if desired, etc.  And that is with the NON-DIY kit.

If you've never soldered before, don't even think about the DIY kit.  If you're handy with tools or have just a little soldering experience, then go to the local electronics recycling center, grab a few large circuit boards and spend a few evenings de-soldering and re-soldering the components with wire leads that go through the board.  That should give you plenty of experience to make this almost fun.

Also, get a good soldering iron.  I only use Weller irons, although there are some other good brands.  There is a reason that some irons are $50 and some with the same specs are $5.  Think of Weller as the Cherry MX of soldering equipment.

This is a keyboard forum, not a ham-radio forum.  Absolutely zero people here will think any less of anyone for skipping the SMD part of this.  And for sure you aren't going to save money unless you already have the equipment to do that delicate of a job.

If you have enough dexterity to care about keyboard switches, you can probably build one.  But let the robots do their job first.

</rant>

WFD, thank you very much for the warning message and the video!

Yet another good job in the GH60 stack of good jobs!

Cheers!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
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I don't plan on buying the DIY kit, just the $40 one.  I've already watched the video on soldering the chip, and I know I won't be trying that.  I was just wondering if it is that hard to solder the switches onto the board and such. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:43:17
On a scale of 1 - 10 how hard would this be for a person who has some soldering experience but hasn't dealt with mechanical keyboards at all?  I'm very interested and want to make my first keyboard the best.

Shouldn't matter if you've ever touched a keyboard if you can solder.

Wow.  People are buying the DIY kit for the build-it-yourself experience?  I have decades of soldering experience, and don't think WFD went far enough in explaining just how delicate and unforgiving SMD soldering is.  It is (literally) like soldering an ant to a piece of screen.  One tiny ant-leg at a time.  There is a reason these are done with pick-and-place machines.  It is really, really hard.  And VERY hard to undo mistakes.

If you are a pretty good at soldering, then spend the $40 and get the ":assembled" board.  You will stil have to solder 120+ switch leads, at least one LED, burn the firmware, customize it if desired, etc.  And that is with the NON-DIY kit.

If you've never soldered before, don't even think about the DIY kit.  If you're handy with tools or have just a little soldering experience, then go to the local electronics recycling center, grab a few large circuit boards and spend a few evenings de-soldering and re-soldering the components with wire leads that go through the board.  That should give you plenty of experience to make this almost fun.

Also, get a good soldering iron.  I only use Weller irons, although there are some other good brands.  There is a reason that some irons are $50 and some with the same specs are $5.  Think of Weller as the Cherry MX of soldering equipment.

This is a keyboard forum, not a ham-radio forum.  Absolutely zero people here will think any less of anyone for skipping the SMD part of this.  And for sure you aren't going to save money unless you already have the equipment to do that delicate of a job.

If you have enough dexterity to care about keyboard switches, you can probably build one.  But let the robots do their job first.

</rant>

WFD, thank you very much for the warning message and the video!

Yet another good job in the GH60 stack of good jobs!

Cheers!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
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Now I wasn't recommending the DIY kit, just saying that Brown wouldn't have much trouble with the standard no switches soldered (but smt pre-soldered) on board. As long as he's had soldering experience.

And agree 100% on the good iron thing. I use a Hakko FX-888 myself. Hakko and Weller are the two of the big consumer irons (Complete **** next to professional ones, but you're lookin at another 0 on those). Can't go wrong with either of them.

Also, look at ones with a seperate unit for temperature control. They tend to be a lot nicer than wands with a dial on the wand or no dial at all.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:46:00
On a scale of 1 - 10 how hard would this be for a person who has some soldering experience but hasn't dealt with mechanical keyboards at all?  I'm very interested and want to make my first keyboard the best.

Shouldn't matter if you've ever touched a keyboard if you can solder.

<skip>


It's good you are clearing this all up =D
Would hate if people bought it, and couldn't even use it, especially after all the anticipation for this board :P

Sorry for the rant.  It is really hard to do, and it would in fact be a serious bummer if people saved $15 on what could be an awesome board and then couldn't get it to work.

Brown, to answer you specifically, the normal kit requires normal dexterity.  Go for it.  Practice first!  My rant was not pointed at you.

I am now going to go have some sake and sashimi.

Peace to all, and to all a good evening!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: netdevil on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:52:59
I miss geekhack gb thread for a day or two then I see a 7 page GH60 gb page lol. Ordered after waiting for this for awhile. Good job guys  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:54:36
Yeah, thinking again about the DIY option.  I forgot how long it takes to paste a board and place components, then have it bake without anything going cock-eyed.  I don't have the time anymore, lol.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glod on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:54:59
On a scale of 1 - 10 how hard would this be for a person who has some soldering experience but hasn't dealt with mechanical keyboards at all?  I'm very interested and want to make my first keyboard the best.

Shouldn't matter if you've ever touched a keyboard if you can solder.

Wow.  People are buying the DIY kit for the build-it-yourself experience?  I have decades of soldering experience, and don't think WFD went far enough in explaining just how delicate and unforgiving SMD soldering is.  It is (literally) like soldering an ant to a piece of screen.  One tiny ant-leg at a time.  There is a reason these are done with pick-and-place machines.  It is really, really hard.  And VERY hard to undo mistakes.

If you are a pretty good at soldering, then spend the $40 and get the ":assembled" board.  You will stil have to solder 120+ switch leads, at least one LED, burn the firmware, customize it if desired, etc.  And that is with the NON-DIY kit.

If you've never soldered before, don't even think about the DIY kit.  If you're handy with tools or have just a little soldering experience, then go to the local electronics recycling center, grab a few large circuit boards and spend a few evenings de-soldering and re-soldering the components with wire leads that go through the board.  That should give you plenty of experience to make this almost fun.

Also, get a good soldering iron.  I only use Weller irons, although there are some other good brands.  There is a reason that some irons are $50 and some with the same specs are $5.  Think of Weller as the Cherry MX of soldering equipment.

This is a keyboard forum, not a ham-radio forum.  Absolutely zero people here will think any less of anyone for skipping the SMD part of this.  And for sure you aren't going to save money unless you already have the equipment to do that delicate of a job.

If you have enough dexterity to care about keyboard switches, you can probably build one.  But let the robots do their job first.

</rant>

WFD, thank you very much for the warning message and the video!

Yet another good job in the GH60 stack of good jobs!

Cheers!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
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One of the four GH60s i signed up for today was the DIY SMD kit. I figured i would use it to get better with smd soldering considering all I have done with smd was this kit http://www.amazon.com/Elenco-Surface-Mount-Technology-Kit/dp/B001RCMNHS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363913100&sr=8-2&keywords=smd+kit and even that tiny simple kit was a little hard with my current equipment of just a flux pen, some tweezers, and 2 tips (screwdriver and pointy conical) for my Weller WLC100 and the sad part is it ended up not working  :-X

I guess my logic was: accomplish smd soldering and be rewarded with another working GH60

I have watched WFD video when he first posted it, but i think hearing you and WFD now give your arguments against the DIY kit, I think i am convinced to just not do it. My hands shake bad when i'm under stress, i am imagining the damage i could do to the board and myself.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Turkishrambo on Thu, 21 March 2013, 19:59:48
This has probably been answered, but is the plates from The_beast's GB compatible? Im assuming yes
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 20:03:11
Is the ANSI 1.5x the best plate for a hhkb layout? or ANSI 1.5x PURE? i figure pure because the hhkb also has the same small shift
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: calavera on Thu, 21 March 2013, 20:06:02
Anyone else still deciding on a damn plate? Decisions decisions...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 March 2013, 20:06:14
I built mine (that already had all the SMD stuff done) with a $10 radioshack piece of crap solder iron, anyone can do it. :D
As far as programming it goes there is a nice working gui tool now so you won't have to learn things about C programming to make it work first like poor me pulling out my hair and screaming into the night. :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Turkishrambo on Thu, 21 March 2013, 20:07:19
Anyone else still deciding on a damn plate? Decisions decisions...
I really want a winkeyless, the only thing is that i will pretty much have to get a custom alum case... dno if its in budget @_@
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 21 March 2013, 20:08:52
Is the ANSI 1.5x the best plate for a hhkb layout? or ANSI 1.5x PURE? i figure pure because the hhkb also has the same small shift

Depends on if you want a TRUE HHKB layout or not. Personally, the HHKB's FN key seems logically placed, even if I don't like the backspace position, so I would go with the 1.5x Pure...but to each his own.

I've found that you should probably think it over, and ignore what everyone else tells you about what you should/shouldn't get layout-wise. It's all up to you. If you think that the Pure plate is best, then get it. If you are unsure and you can do with PCB Mount Cherry Stabs, go for the Universal ANSI plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 March 2013, 20:27:05
Or don't get a plate at all as it is not needed anyway and you don't have to worry about a thing!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 21 March 2013, 20:59:31
Is the ANSI 1.5x the best plate for a hhkb layout? or ANSI 1.5x PURE? i figure pure because the hhkb also has the same small shift

Depends on if you want a TRUE HHKB layout or not. Personally, the HHKB's FN key seems logically placed, even if I don't like the backspace position, so I would go with the 1.5x Pure...but to each his own.

I've found that you should probably think it over, and ignore what everyone else tells you about what you should/shouldn't get layout-wise. It's all up to you. If you think that the Pure plate is best, then get it. If you are unsure and you can do with PCB Mount Cherry Stabs, go for the Universal ANSI plate.

i think i would like that fn placement. if i didn't get Ansi 1.5x pure, where would the fn go? even if i do get ANSI 1.5x PURE, i am pretty sure that i will have standard ansi backspace. in that case, where will the "~" key be? an fn option?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ANDMYGUN on Thu, 21 March 2013, 21:54:59
Hello, I'm very new to keyboards and group buys in general.. hopefully someone can help me out. From my understanding the GH60 will not be coming with a case or keys, which I will have to buy separately:

1. Will only certain plates work with specific cases?

2. Whats a popular layout that everyone's getting? I honestly don't know enough about keyboards to purchase one with an open mind.

3. When choosing switched it say's to leave it formatted quantity x item, I'm guessing this would mean the amount of keys on the keyboard and the switch type? IE Cherry MX Browns?

4. Like I said I've never been in a group buy, but I've bought things with paypal before, I'm guessing once they send in my invoice I'll just have to pay for it through paypal?

5. Can someone give me a rough estimate on how much it would cost? with soldering, plate, assembly, and switches.

Thank you in advanced I've always wanted to participate in a group buy but I've never been too sure on how to.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 21 March 2013, 22:08:32
Hello, I'm very new to keyboards and group buys in general.. hopefully someone can help me out. From my understanding the GH60 will not be coming with a case or keys, which I will have to buy separately:

1. Will only certain plates work with specific cases?
  It's engineered to work with almost every 60% case out there.

Quote
2. Whats a popular layout that everyone's getting? I honestly don't know enough about keyboards to purchase one with an open mind.
What do you use now?
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3. When choosing switched it say's to leave it formatted quantity x item, I'm guessing this would mean the amount of keys on the keyboard and the switch type?
IE Cherry MX Browns? Exactly.
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4. Like I said I've never been in a group buy, but I've bought things with paypal before, I'm guessing once they send in my invoice I'll just have to pay for it through paypal?
Bingo, I'll send you an invoice through paypal and you'll pay it.
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5. Can someone give me a rough estimate on how much it would cost? with soldering, plate, assembly, and switches.
~$140 plus shipping and paypal fees.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: fruktstund on Thu, 21 March 2013, 22:15:43
Just put in my order. I didn't think I'd buy one at all, but hell, I do need something smaller until I can buy a Hypermini with super crazy Realforce JIS layout. :>

I would love if you could post pictures of all plate layouts by the way, just to make sure I chose the right one. I'm 99.5% sure I did, but it's still a bit confusing. (For example, I don't think the ANSI 1.5x plate is "HHKB layout compatible" without the shorter right shift, but this might just be me being crazy)
Pretty sure you guys are working on it, but I thought I'd mention it just in case.

Also, it seems as if this group buy is attracting a lot more interest (and orders!) than the first Phantom round, which surely proves interest for custom keyboards (and 60% keyboards too of course) has risen dramatically the last year. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Thu, 21 March 2013, 22:25:43

2. Whats a popular layout that everyone's getting? I honestly don't know enough about keyboards to purchase one with an open mind.

3. When choosing switched it say's to leave it formatted quantity x item, I'm guessing this would mean the amount of keys on the keyboard and the switch type?


2. I'd say poker if you have no feelings any other way. It's like most keyboards, and any keycap set will work for you.

3. I think it means like 1 x brown (for one set of brown switches) but I could be mistaken.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: calavera on Thu, 21 March 2013, 22:33:16
Who's doing the assembly state side?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Sai on Thu, 21 March 2013, 22:40:04
Quote
Jdcarpe and I will handle US assembly and distributions, komar will assemble and distribute for EU and the rest of the world (unless you have a personal request or already have prior arrangements)
by WFD

Who's doing the assembly state side?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ANDMYGUN on Thu, 21 March 2013, 22:53:06
Alright, thanks guy! I currently own a QFR Cherry MX Reds, hopefully these are the last questions I have:

1. I'm unsure which to get: Costar stabs, Plate-mounted, PCB-mounted cherry stabs, I'd really just like to be able to switch out key caps with the ones I bought from WASD.

2. Hypothetically lets say I where to buy:

GH60 PBC quantity: 1 - $40

Poker plate quantity: 1 - $16

Switches and stabilizers: Costar, 1 x Browns - ??

Assembly - $25

How much would I be paying for the Switches and stabilizers along with Paypal and shipping separately? I may be asking for to much, I'd just like to make sure I have enough cash when it comes to paying.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Shinryuu on Thu, 21 March 2013, 23:19:38
Thanks for making this GH60 thing possible. Order sent :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MarkPharaoh on Thu, 21 March 2013, 23:20:24
~$140 + shipping/fees.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: guilleguillaume on Fri, 22 March 2013, 00:10:59

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Looking forward to number 2.

Or don't get a plate at all as it is not needed anyway and you don't have to worry about a thing!

Ivan Ivanovich are you using PCB mounted switches?

I feel rare because I don't intent to use any plate of the availables and won't be using any stabilizer but the spacebar one. Am I the only one with this idea in mind?  :p

I don't really know If I should get at least the universal ones in case I decide to change my mind.

By the way, I would like to know if the following layouts are actually possible in the GH60, I combined some with IvanIvanovich layout.

(http://i.imgur.com/ijoG8OV.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/tlxiJLm.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FpImUD3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3qclSAZ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/RwbHFNZ.jpg)

I don't see any reason why they wouldn't work  since they are combining some of the layouts showed on the OP but it's better to ask. I guess none of the plates would work.

Maybe some of the ISO users and EU ANSI users would like them  ;D


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: zeththedarkmage on Fri, 22 March 2013, 00:15:24
I'm really liking the winkeyless style but aren't 1.5x mods harder to find? Am I the only one around here who uses winkey+l to the computer? xD I like some of the other styles but will probably just go with poker so that keycap sets are easier to obtain. :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 00:20:04
Ivan Ivanovich are you using PCB mounted switches?

I feel rare because I don't intent to use any plate of the availables and won't be using any stabilizer but the spacebar one. Am I the only one with this idea in mind?  :p

I don't really know If I should get at least the universal ones in case I decide to change my mind.

By the way, I would like to know if the following layouts are actually possible in the GH60, I combined some with IvanIvanovich layout.

(snip)

I don't see any reason why they wouldn't work  since they are combining some of the layouts showed on the OP but it's better to ask. I guess none of the plates would work.

Maybe some of the ISO users and EU ANSI users would like them  ;D


Looks like all of those should work just fine, without a plate of course. But wouldn't you want to use a stabilizer on the 2.25 ANSI Enter, the ISO Enter, and 2.00 backspace?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Sai on Fri, 22 March 2013, 00:23:55


I feel rare because I don't intent to use any plate of the availables and won't be using any stabilizer but the spacebar one. Am I the only one with this idea in mind?  :p

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you have me on not using stabilizer. :P
currently, only right shift and spacebar have them on my poker. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 22 March 2013, 00:26:03
@ guilleguillaume - those look like they're all hybrids of the layouts posted in the OP. There's no way different plate can be offered for every layout, there are just too many possibilities. That's why you should just get the universal one, it'll accommodate to all hybrids you can think of.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: guilleguillaume on Fri, 22 March 2013, 00:38:50

I feel rare because I don't intent to use any plate of the availables and won't be using any stabilizer but the spacebar one. Am I the only one with this idea in mind?  :p


you have me on not using stabilizer. :P
currently, only right shift and spacebar have them on my poker. :D

I'm not alone  :))

@ guilleguillaume - those look like they're all hybrids of the layouts posted in the OP. There's no way different plate can be offered for every layout, there are just too many possibilities. That's why you should just get the universal one, it'll accommodate to all hybrids you can think of.

I figured out  that. Was not my plan to make you create a plate that complicated.

I guess I should just get some universal plates like you say  in case someday I decide to make the keyboards plate mounted. It's better to buy things when you can instead of feeling bad later for not having what you need.

[wall of text and pictures]

Looks like all of those should work just fine, without a plate of course. But wouldn't you want to use a stabilizer on the 2.25 ANSI Enter, the ISO Enter, and 2.00 backspace?

Thank you!  ;D

I'm actually using my Poker X without any stabilizer on it except for the one on the Spacebar. So far I haven't encountered any problems and the only key that can feel weird sometimes  if you don't hit in the center of the key is the 2.75 RShift but after all I don't use it that much to annoy me and also I don't plan to use it in any of my GH60 so no problems at all.

I may want to use one for the ISO enter though, didn't think about that. For me it's a good thing to have the backspace split in 2 keys because I love the JIS layout and I don't have to use the Fn layer to use Esc or Tilde key like on the Poker.

I don't like the feel of the stabilizers and the horrible noise they produce sometimes. My Kmac mini has a lot of rattle in the stabilizers and I hate it. They are PCB mounted though but there's a plate so it may be for this reason  :))

The idea of creating the custom layout that suits my needs perfectly is amazing. With the Kmac mini I can do that but I'm limited to the physical layout what doesn't happen with the GH60 at all if I can do those physical layouts.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Also I would like to thank you all for making this possible. You really put a lot of effort for he community.

Excuse my walls of text  :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 22 March 2013, 00:39:35
... (For example, I don't think the ANSI 1.5x plate is "HHKB layout compatible" without the shorter right shift, but this might just be me being crazy)
Pretty sure you guys are working on it, but I thought I'd mention it just in case.

Also, it seems as if this group buy is attracting a lot more interest (and orders!) than the first Phantom round, which surely proves interest for custom keyboards (and 60% keyboards too of course) has risen dramatically the last year. :)

I'm sorry, I made a huge mistake when writing the OP. It was actually written and pictures rendered almost a month ago, and at the time there were no split backspace. ANSI 1.5x plate doesn't have support for the short R-Shift + extra 1x key.

I'll have to add another plate option in the order form for a "True" HHKB, which will have it's own separate plate. This plate is the same as the ANSI/ISO 1.5x plate, except it will have a split R-shift and split backspace.



EDIT: oops what am I thinking, I'm second-guessing myself haha. There's already a Pure-style plate with 1.5x modifiers that will work in a HHKB layout. It just doesn't have a split backspace. If you truly want a split backspace for the 1.5x pure plate, mention this in the comments section of your order. if there are more than a couple, I can make a separate plate for it. Dorkvader already PM'ed me about this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: vardhana on Fri, 22 March 2013, 01:21:44
EDIT: oops what am I thinking, I'm second-guessing myself haha. There's already a Pure-style plate with 1.5x modifiers that will work in a HHKB layout. It just doesn't have a split backspace. If you truly want a split backspace for the 1.5x pure plate, mention this in the comments section of your order. if there are more than a couple, I can make a separate plate for it. Dorkvader already PM'ed me about this.

I also want a split backspace for the 1.5x pure plate.
May I mention this in order form?
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Fri, 22 March 2013, 01:30:49
... (For example, I don't think the ANSI 1.5x plate is "HHKB layout compatible" without the shorter right shift, but this might just be me being crazy)
Pretty sure you guys are working on it, but I thought I'd mention it just in case.

Also, it seems as if this group buy is attracting a lot more interest (and orders!) than the first Phantom round, which surely proves interest for custom keyboards (and 60% keyboards too of course) has risen dramatically the last year. :)

I'm sorry, I made a huge mistake when writing the OP. It was actually written and pictures rendered almost a month ago, and at the time there were no split backspace. ANSI 1.5x plate doesn't have support for the short R-Shift + extra 1x key.

I'll have to add another plate option in the order form for a "True" HHKB, which will have it's own separate plate. This plate is the same as the ANSI/ISO 1.5x plate, except it will have a split R-shift and split backspace.



EDIT: oops what am I thinking, I'm second-guessing myself haha. There's already a Pure-style plate with 1.5x modifiers that will work in a HHKB layout. It just doesn't have a split backspace. If you truly want a split backspace for the 1.5x pure plate, mention this in the comments section of your order. if there are more than a couple, I can make a separate plate for it. Dorkvader already PM'ed me about this.


Just changed my order to two of these.

Anyone interested in the ANSI pure 1.25 with split backspace? Ten we can use the various non thick PBT sets.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: developej on Fri, 22 March 2013, 03:01:38
i live in Serbia, Europe, and we don't have paypal here. i can only pay with VISA Virtuon. will this be possible?

if yes, i will also need help with order form:
Quote
Switches and stabilizers (stabilizers are in sets, each set is enough for 1 whole keyboard. Switches are per switch)
Costar stabs, Plate-mounted, PCB-mounted cherry stabs (specify spacebar wire size). The switch color you want. FORMAT: quantity x item
if i want a poker layout, is this how it should look:
61 x mx blue
1 x plate-mounted stabilizers

thanks!

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 22 March 2013, 03:55:11
8 pages in one day. O_O

Nice work on this guys, will def be ordering one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 22 March 2013, 03:56:42
Will be ordering one later I guess, awesome to see this finally happening.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tranquilite on Fri, 22 March 2013, 04:15:27
Still deliberating getting the DIY PCB or not, but other wise most likely going to settle for universal ANSI plate. Should give me all kinds of layout options.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: dirge on Fri, 22 March 2013, 04:32:43
Great! order submitted!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Fred on Fri, 22 March 2013, 05:49:38
ISO pure (pure shift and 1.25x) will have to be on a universal plate? Or will the ISO 1.25x plate work?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 06:42:00
ISO pure (pure shift and 1.25x) will have to be on a universal plate? Or will the ISO 1.25x plate work?

You will need the universal ISO plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tym on Fri, 22 March 2013, 06:45:07
How likely will it that we can have mx green? also what do stabiliser do sorry (& do we need them)? New to the whole DIY kb idea.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: vorn on Fri, 22 March 2013, 06:54:30
Ordered. Can't wait!!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: kaiserreich on Fri, 22 March 2013, 07:29:42
Is there a stencil planned for the ones choosing to self assemble?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 22 March 2013, 07:42:29
Is there a stencil planned for the ones choosing to self assemble?
Nope, gotta do it the old fashion way of SMD hand soldering. Or if you're using paste, you have to manually apply it to every pad, then use hot air afterwards. That's why I don't recommend it for saving $15.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 22 March 2013, 08:04:42
how many switches will be required for the hhkb ansi layout? i counted 59...can someone back me up?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 08:20:33
how many switches will be required for the hhkb ansi layout? i counted 59...can someone back me up?

Should be 60, if you use split backspace. Never hurts to order a few (2-4) extra switches, just in case.

Also, we will try to get any switch type requested. If we can't get the switch type you requested, we will contact you and let you know that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Fred on Fri, 22 March 2013, 08:51:07
You will need the universal ISO plate.

Ok. 1.50x mods or universal plate with cherry stabs*? Decisions, decisions... haha.
Is split backspace available no matter what btw?

*No one seems to like cherry stabs. Apparently it was possible to cut away some excess plastic on them to make them feel better though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 22 March 2013, 08:54:24
how many switches will be required for the hhkb ansi layout? i counted 59...can someone back me up?

Should be 60, if you use split backspace. Never hurts to order a few (2-4) extra switches, just in case.

Also, we will try to get any switch type requested. If we can't get the switch type you requested, we will contact you and let you know that.

i counted 59 from here
(http://i.imgur.com/0bH7jN4.png)

and i just want it exactly as it is in the pic. also, i know you guys mentioned 7bit, should i make a DT account and message him directly for requesting switches or post in the thread you linked?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tym on Fri, 22 March 2013, 08:55:34
does anyone have the dimensions of the GH60 ? Also would anyone like a case made out of an ammo box?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: 7bit on Fri, 22 March 2013, 08:59:09
and i just want it exactly as it is in the pic. also, i know you guys mentioned 7bit, should i make a DT account and message him directly for requesting switches or post in the thread you linked?

Switches will be cheaper or equally cheap within this group buy. So you should order here instead of directly from me (unless you want to order in-stock stuff from me).

I try to make sure that all switch types which are currently produced will be available even if there are not so many orders for some types.



Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Turkishrambo on Fri, 22 March 2013, 09:02:17
what key sets do you plan on using for you GH60's? Im thinking i might use the retro set, idk yet O:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 09:07:01
does anyone have the dimensions of the GH60 ? Also would anyone like a case made out of an ammo box?

The PCB and plates should be about 286mm x 94mm. Do you need exact measurements?

I would be interested in the ammo box case. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: regack on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:23:43
Woohoo! got my order form filled out...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:31:22
Also want to add this: If you order assembly service, you should not order "DIY" PCBs. DIY means you're going to assemble everything yourself, including the SMD components.

If you need to change your order, please submit a request using this (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform) form.

Thanks! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:36:00
Also want to add this: If you order assembly service, you should not order "DIY" PCBs. DIY means you're going to assemble everything yourself, including the SMD components.

If you need to change your order, please submit a request using this (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform) form.

Thanks! :D

should we be putting all other information in the comments section? aka like layout we want and LEDs

i want the hhkb layout, but i think i want a normal right shift instead of a small pure one, just because it's a pain to get a 1.75x shift key for keycap sets. i might map the fn down to one of the meta keys instead.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: developej on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:36:34
don't want to be annoying :D
i live in Serbia, Europe, and we don't have paypal here. i can only pay with VISA Virtuon. will this be possible?

if yes, i will also need help with order form:
Quote
Switches and stabilizers (stabilizers are in sets, each set is enough for 1 whole keyboard. Switches are per switch)
Costar stabs, Plate-mounted, PCB-mounted cherry stabs (specify spacebar wire size). The switch color you want. FORMAT: quantity x item
if i want a poker layout, is this how it should look:
61 x mx blue
1 x plate-mounted stabilizers

thanks!

thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:48:36
don't want to be annoying :D
i live in Serbia, Europe, and we don't have paypal here. i can only pay with VISA Virtuon. will this be possible?

if yes, i will also need help with order form:
Quote
Switches and stabilizers (stabilizers are in sets, each set is enough for 1 whole keyboard. Switches are per switch)
Costar stabs, Plate-mounted, PCB-mounted cherry stabs (specify spacebar wire size). The switch color you want. FORMAT: quantity x item
if i want a poker layout, is this how it should look:
61 x mx blue
1 x plate-mounted stabilizers

thanks!

thanks!

Sorry, not trying to ignore you, but I don't know if that's possible or not. tjcaustin will be invoicing and collecting payments, and he is only accepting payment via Paypal. Perhaps komar007 might be willing to accept your payment, as he is located in Poland, and would be shipping your order. But you would have to ask him directly.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: vorn on Fri, 22 March 2013, 10:50:28
Hmm.. also, for the Assembly Service... it's a radio button. I've ordered 2 boards and want them both assembled. so thats $25 x 2. Should this have a Qty field? Or just put that in the Comments/notes?

I think the bulk of the instruction is going to be in the Comments/notes field. Layout, switch configuration, etc. The rest of the fields are mainly useful for consolidating the orders.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gropingmantis on Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:52:29
Got my switches all ready and my keycaps. PCB and plate order placed. Now to source a nice case...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: aggiejy on Fri, 22 March 2013, 11:53:17
Form filled out! :)
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Luke on Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:10:33
Got my switches all ready and my keycaps. PCB and plate order placed. Now to source a nice case...

Exactly the same! xD
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: developej on Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:43:13
don't want to be annoying :D
i live in Serbia, Europe, and we don't have paypal here. i can only pay with VISA Virtuon. will this be possible?

if yes, i will also need help with order form:
Quote
Switches and stabilizers (stabilizers are in sets, each set is enough for 1 whole keyboard. Switches are per switch)
Costar stabs, Plate-mounted, PCB-mounted cherry stabs (specify spacebar wire size). The switch color you want. FORMAT: quantity x item
if i want a poker layout, is this how it should look:
61 x mx blue
1 x plate-mounted stabilizers

thanks!

thanks!

Sorry, not trying to ignore you, but I don't know if that's possible or not. tjcaustin will be invoicing and collecting payments, and he is only accepting payment via Paypal. Perhaps komar007 might be willing to accept your payment, as he is located in Poland, and would be shipping your order. But you would have to ask him directly.

ok, thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Brown on Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:45:47
Would the ANSI 1.5x or Poker plate be easier to find keycaps for?  So many decisions D:  How many switches would I need?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Plater on Fri, 22 March 2013, 12:46:08
Ordered placed, can't wait until I get my hands on these bad boys! And also, Can't wait for the aluminum case!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjweir on Fri, 22 March 2013, 13:42:00
Ordered 2 x Samwisekoi's layout.

Now to find a buyer for my ErgoDox.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: clstyle on Fri, 22 March 2013, 14:13:18
ordered~!!! now i waiting for next step. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 22 March 2013, 15:21:24
All of these layout except MAX keys layout is easy to find keys for in GMK modifiers groupbuy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.0) :D
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 15:24:33
All of these layout except MAX keys layout is easy to find keys for in GMK modifiers groupbuy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.0) :D

Finally some shameless self promotion I can get behind! ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: osxoep on Fri, 22 March 2013, 16:06:38
Does anyone know where I can get some custom HHKB style keys?
I mean the way they have other functions printed on the side facing the user.

Like this: http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/pdkb400ws_corner1000_th0x0.jpg

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jksteger on Fri, 22 March 2013, 16:08:58
I'm a GH newbie, I want to order one, I want a HHKB 'clone' with Cherry MX Brown switches and MX black for the keyboard but I know nothing about how to configure this.  :eek:

Can someone please help me out.   ;D with what to put in the order form?

Sorry, i'm learning and will get there soon.

Thanks a zillion GH'ers!!!!

Jeremy
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 16:16:50
I'm a GH newbie, I want to order one, I want a HHKB 'clone' with Cherry MX Brown switches and MX black for the keyboard but I know nothing about how to configure this.  :eek:

Can someone please help me out.   ;D with what to put in the order form?

Sorry, i'm learning and will get there soon.

Thanks a zillion GH'ers!!!!

Jeremy

If you want a plate (optional), the one you want is not on the order form, yet. WFD needs to update the form with the "HHKB" plate. Other than that, you need a GH60 PCB (not DIY), 60 switches, and stabilizers (PCB mount Cherry). Assembly service if you don't plan to solder the switches (and install the optional plate) to the PCB. Not sure what you mean by "with Cherry MX Brown switches and MX black for the keyboard."
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Winther on Fri, 22 March 2013, 16:44:50
If I want "ISO 1.25x" and a plate, I need plate mounted stabilizers right?

does none of the stabs come with the wires?

will the firmware support nordic letters?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 22 March 2013, 16:56:34

will the firmware support nordic letters?
Is doesn't have to, the translation from standard key codes to actual letter happens on the OS side, so no need to worry.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: keymaster on Fri, 22 March 2013, 16:57:46
When are these expected to begin being produced? I think I read someone say September or October... Could someone clarify this? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 22 March 2013, 17:14:55
That would be the optimistic side of me that wrote this.
No idea.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jksteger on Fri, 22 March 2013, 17:19:35
I'm a GH newbie, I want to order one, I want a HHKB 'clone' with Cherry MX Brown switches and MX black for the keyboard but I know nothing about how to configure this.  :eek:

Can someone please help me out.   ;D with what to put in the order form?

Sorry, i'm learning and will get there soon.

Thanks a zillion GH'ers!!!!

Jeremy

If you want a plate (optional), the one you want is not on the order form, yet. WFD needs to update the form with the "HHKB" plate. Other than that, you need a GH60 PCB (not DIY), 60 switches, and stabilizers (PCB mount Cherry). Assembly service if you don't plan to solder the switches (and install the optional plate) to the PCB. Not sure what you mean by "with Cherry MX Brown switches and MX black for the keyboard."

Thanks so much, I meant to say a cherry mx black for the spacebar!  d'oah!!!

Thanks so much!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jksteger on Fri, 22 March 2013, 17:27:26
Thanks jdcarpe,
I've filled out the order form with what you suggested!

thanks,
Jeremy
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ANDMYGUN on Fri, 22 March 2013, 18:34:02
hey guys, can you tell me if this is right?

GH60 PBC quantity: 1

Poker plate quantity: 1

Switches and stabilizers: 61 x MX Browns,

Assembly service: Yes

I'm unsure about the stabilizers can someone help me out there?


Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 18:39:57
hey guys, can you tell me if this is right?

GH60 PBC quantity: 1

Poker plate quantity: 1

Switches and stabilizers: 61 x MX Browns,

Assembly service: Yes

I'm unsure about the stabilizers can someone help me out there?

Correct. For stabilizers, get 1 x Cherry PCB
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 22 March 2013, 19:46:46
hey guys, can you tell me if this is right?

GH60 PBC quantity: 1

Poker plate quantity: 1

Switches and stabilizers: 61 x MX Browns,

Assembly service: Yes

I'm unsure about the stabilizers can someone help me out there?

Correct. For stabilizers, get 1 x Cherry PCB

it says we have to include spacebar wire size.. should i just put 7x?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: myndzi on Fri, 22 March 2013, 22:07:22
Sent an update to my order in support of split backspace Pure plate :)

One more question. I can, through this group buy, get everything except the case and keycaps? I see that WFD has a case thing going soon too. Do I need to source some keycaps or can I basically just camp out in this thread and wind up with a complete working keyboard?

It's really cool to see this happen, what with all the people coming together to get it all done. You guys are great.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 22 March 2013, 22:09:22
There are enough keycap group buys going on now, along with planned to be done by the time you have this in your hands to not worry about them coming to this gb.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Brown on Fri, 22 March 2013, 22:43:00
hey guys, can you tell me if this is right?

GH60 PBC quantity: 1

Poker plate quantity: 1

Switches and stabilizers: 61 x MX Browns,

Assembly service: Yes

I'm unsure about the stabilizers can someone help me out there?

Correct. For stabilizers, get 1 x Cherry PCB

Would you be able to use Costar (Plate Mount) Stabilizers on it or no?
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 22 March 2013, 23:33:40
hey guys, can you tell me if this is right?

GH60 PBC quantity: 1

Poker plate quantity: 1

Switches and stabilizers: 61 x MX Browns,

Assembly service: Yes

I'm unsure about the stabilizers can someone help me out there?

Correct. For stabilizers, get 1 x Cherry PCB

it says we have to include spacebar wire size.. should i just put 7x?

Sorry, for Poker layout (any with 1.25) get 6.25x wire.

Also, for 1.50 layouts, get 7x wire.

Yes, plate mount stabs including Costar will work with all these plates. You might need to do a little bit of sanding or grinding, as the plate is 0.0625" thick, and Costar spec is for 0.060"
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: vardhana on Sat, 23 March 2013, 07:18:04
I'm a GH newbie, I want to order one, I want a HHKB 'clone' with Cherry MX Brown switches and MX black for the keyboard but I know nothing about how to configure this.  :eek:

Can someone please help me out.   ;D with what to put in the order form?

Sorry, i'm learning and will get there soon.

Thanks a zillion GH'ers!!!!

Jeremy

If you want a plate (optional), the one you want is not on the order form, yet. WFD needs to update the form with the "HHKB" plate. Other than that, you need a GH60 PCB (not DIY), 60 switches, and stabilizers (PCB mount Cherry). Assembly service if you don't plan to solder the switches (and install the optional plate) to the PCB. Not sure what you mean by "with Cherry MX Brown switches and MX black for the keyboard."

Will be order form updated?
WFD said;

blablabla...

EDIT: oops what am I thinking, I'm second-guessing myself haha. There's already a Pure-style plate with 1.5x modifiers that will work in a HHKB layout. It just doesn't have a split backspace. If you truly want a split backspace for the 1.5x pure plate, mention this in the comments section of your order. if there are more than a couple, I can make a separate plate for it. Dorkvader already PM'ed me about this.


I'm confused.
What should people who want truly HHKB layout (split Backspace) plate do?
Wait for form update? Order with comment?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 23 March 2013, 07:24:48
hey guys, can you tell me if this is right?

GH60 PBC quantity: 1

Poker plate quantity: 1

Switches and stabilizers: 61 x MX Browns,


Assembly service: Yes

I'm unsure about the stabilizers can someone help me out there?

Correct. For stabilizers, get 1 x Cherry PCB

it says we have to include spacebar wire size.. should i just put 7x?

Sorry, for Poker layout (any with 1.25) get 6.25x wire.

Also, for 1.50 layouts, get 7x wire.

Yes, plate mount stabs including Costar will work with all these plates. You might need to do a little bit of sanding or grinding, as the plate is 0.0625" thick, and Costar spec is for 0.060"

Alright cool jd. I'm getting 1.5 ANSI plate, so should I mention a 7x wire in the switch/stabilizer section? And how hard are 7x spacebars to find? :0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: stoic-lemon on Sat, 23 March 2013, 08:32:29
What are people thinking for switch layouts on these? I have downloaded one of the mockups and thought about where I want my browns and blues etc. I'm just wondering what other people doing? Anyone have a crazy switch layout planned?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Acanthophis on Sat, 23 March 2013, 09:09:06
Is there a way to review one's order?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: eon on Sat, 23 March 2013, 09:33:39
If I want a 1.5 ansi layout with 1.75 shift, seems only the universal plate fits, right ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 23 March 2013, 09:36:01
Will be order form updated?

I'm confused.
What should people who want truly HHKB layout (split Backspace) plate do?
Wait for form update? Order with comment?

For now, order with comment, please.


Alright cool jd. I'm getting 1.5 ANSI plate, so should I mention a 7x wire in the switch/stabilizer section? And how hard are 7x spacebars to find? :0

Yes, ask for 7x wire in the switch/stabilizer section. You can find 7x spacebars (and 1.5x mods) with the tsangan kits on every keycap set GB.


Is there a way to review one's order?

Sent you a PM with your current order.


If I want a 1.5 ansi layout with 1.75 shift, seems only the universal plate fits, right ?

Yes, this is correct. You can also put your desired layout in the comments section, in case others want a plate with the same option, we will know how many are interested.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: eon on Sat, 23 March 2013, 09:55:01
If I want a 1.5 ansi layout with 1.75 shift, seems only the universal plate fits, right ?

Yes, this is correct. You can also put your desired layout in the comments section, in case others want a plate with the same option, we will know how many are interested.

What do you mean by the comments section ? There's a thread for that ? THanks
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 23 March 2013, 09:56:33
What do you mean by the comments section ? There's a thread for that ? THanks

On the order form :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: whiskytango on Sat, 23 March 2013, 13:32:13
If I want a 1.5 ansi layout with 1.75 shift, seems only the universal plate fits, right ?

There's this option on the order form: ANSI 1.5x (pure shift) plate quantity, short R-shift, WKL and HHKB compatible

Isn't this what you're talking about?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: eon on Sat, 23 March 2013, 13:52:40
Right that should do it, thanks. This plate isn't listed on this thread though
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 23 March 2013, 19:54:36
JD could I get an order review as well. I should check it and in a few days I'll make sure I've got it updated/correct. A lot of info on here has got me thinking I jumped the gun on my order.  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 23 March 2013, 20:57:30
If we want Dragon's case for the hhkb layout and top, are we going to have to order everything seperate? i am hearing that if we want to get Dragon's future case (which looks like the best option for the hhkb layout) we will have to order all gh60 parts separate and un-assembled, and then build it ourselfs? what is going to be the actual process?  do i need to order the case first or the parts? how will they be integrated together?
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 23 March 2013, 21:24:12
JD could I get an order review as well. I should check it and in a few days I'll make sure I've got it updated/correct. A lot of info on here has got me thinking I jumped the gun on my order.  :p

Sent you a PM with your order. :)


If we want Dragon's case for the hhkb layout and top, are we going to have to order everything seperate? i am hearing that if we want to get Dragon's future case (which looks like the best option for the hhkb layout) we will have to order all gh60 parts separate and un-assembled, and then build it ourselfs? what is going to be the actual process?  do i need to order the case first or the parts? how will they be integrated together?

You should order the GH60 parts now, and you can order WFD's case later, when he starts the GB for it. It will have an integrated plate available, but you can also use these plates with his case, as they have the standoffs for it. If you use the plate (or no plate) from this GB, all you would have to do to install it in his case is use a few screws to assemble it. Or you could wait, and someone will be able o assemble everything, including the integrated plate, for you after the cases ship.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: poopmat on Sat, 23 March 2013, 21:26:40
i feel like a retard
so pardon my ignorance
 i want to get something like a poker with clear switches
i dont know what to order
pls help
thanks

Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 23 March 2013, 21:37:20
i feel like a retard
so pardon my ignorance
 i want to get something like a poker with clear switches
i dont know what to order
pls help
thanks

If you want the same setup as a Poker, you should order the GH60 PCB, 61x MX Clear switches, 1x Cherry PCB mount stabilizers, and assembly service (if desired). Poker plate is optional. You would have to source a case for it outside the GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Trueno86 on Sun, 24 March 2013, 01:24:15
I think I messed up my form, should have read the thread first (the switches and stabilizers section) Should I submit a new one?
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Sun, 24 March 2013, 01:28:24
I think I messed up my form, should have read the thread first (the switches and stabilizers section) Should I submit a new one?
There is a second link to modify orders in the original post.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: realex on Sun, 24 March 2013, 05:32:41
someone talented should come up with nicer logo so we can have shadovved go to work on massive sticker production.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Broadmonkey on Sun, 24 March 2013, 07:45:29
There has already been an IC for some time now:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38906.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38906.0)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Fred on Sun, 24 March 2013, 08:00:45
So can we get split backspace on any plate or how does it work?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 24 March 2013, 08:57:37
So can we get split backspace on any plate or how does it work?

Take a look at the last example, GH60 (max keys).
The backspace is split.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Sun, 24 March 2013, 12:34:54
Does anyone know where I can get some custom HHKB style keys?
I mean the way they have other functions printed on the side facing the user.

Like this: http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/pdkb400ws_corner1000_th0x0.jpg

[/slightlyofftopic]

If you check out WASD keyboards they offer "custom" key caps and can do dual row key prints on single unit keys that allows you to label your function layer, although it is not side printed it should suffice if you need discrete labeling.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Sun, 24 March 2013, 12:41:12
Alright i got my new keycaps from WASD with the new colors too so here they are my two phantoms complete minus custom MM cable.


Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/TheProfosist/GeekHack/GH-sub-mine/IMG_2440.jpg)


Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/TheProfosist/GeekHack/GH-sub-mine/IMG_2444.jpg)


See the above for an example. Prof did this for his phantoms.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: v4mp1 on Sun, 24 March 2013, 14:11:38
What about 1000hz polling?  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 24 March 2013, 14:23:32
So can we get split backspace on any plate or how does it work?

The only plates with split backspace are the Universal plates (ANSI and ISO), and the GH60 (max keys). You can request split backspace for ANSI Pure 1.50, so that it exactly matches the HHKB layout.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 24 March 2013, 14:25:03
What about 1000hz polling?  ;)
Who needs that?:D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: v4mp1 on Sun, 24 March 2013, 14:40:28
Me xD
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 24 March 2013, 14:45:23
Me xD

I think the question was more one of "Why would anyone need that?"
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 24 March 2013, 14:49:24
Me xD
I have a deal for you.
Buy the GH60, and then I'll prepare 10 versions of firmware for you (if I manage to do 1000Hz). If you correctly tell which 5 of them are 1000Hz, I'll refund your GH60 PCB.;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: osxoep on Sun, 24 March 2013, 14:54:56
Hmm. Anyone know which case would be best for an ISO HHKB layout? Even some old plastic cases would be fine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 24 March 2013, 14:59:22
1000hz polling

wut
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Fred on Sun, 24 March 2013, 14:59:41
The only plates with split backspace are the Universal plates (ANSI and ISO), and the GH60 (max keys). You can request split backspace for ANSI Pure 1.50, so that it exactly matches the HHKB layout.
Gotcha, I should go for universal ISO then. 1.25x, pure shift and split backspace! This can surely not go wrong.


Edit: Which switches can we assume will be readily available? Is it possible to get some greens and clears?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: v4mp1 on Sun, 24 March 2013, 15:15:05
Me xD
I have a deal for you.
Buy the GH60, and then I'll prepare 10 versions of firmware for you (if I manage to do 1000Hz). If you correctly tell which 5 of them are 1000Hz, I'll refund your GH60 PCB.;)

Deal!  :cool:

But first test if you are able to manage the 1000hz. If yes, i buy a pcb :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Index on Sun, 24 March 2013, 16:01:06
Curious, what is the kro on the GH60?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 24 March 2013, 17:02:31
Currently no limitations. Any numbers of keys is registered at the same time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ishumprod on Sun, 24 March 2013, 17:38:25
Currently no limitations. Any numbers of keys is registered at the same time.

terran facerolling mode : activated
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: OnTheBrink on Sun, 24 March 2013, 19:34:43
Really want a custom poker but I do not know how to solder.
is there a way I can buy one and someone can put it together for me?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 24 March 2013, 19:38:21
Order the assembly service in the order form :).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 24 March 2013, 19:41:23
Really want a custom poker but I do not know how to solder.
is there a way I can buy one and someone can put it together for me?
At least a dozen folks on here that can do that or you can pay 25 bucks to have it done before it ships to you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: OnTheBrink on Sun, 24 March 2013, 20:01:05
Order the assembly service in the order form :).

Perfect! Ordering now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tarzan on Sun, 24 March 2013, 20:19:04
Ordered enough parts to assemble two Poker boards.  (I think...)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: OnTheBrink on Sun, 24 March 2013, 20:21:45
So I ordered. I hope I did so correctly.
In terms of keys, are we on our own with that or can we order sets?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cobraj on Sun, 24 March 2013, 20:33:08
So I ordered. I hope I did so correctly.
In terms of keys, are we on our own with that or can we order sets?

SOOOO many group buys happening with keys right now (or just happened) :P
Just make sure that the GH60 layout you picked is compatible with the keys you buy or vice versa
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: justin one on Sun, 24 March 2013, 21:29:02
How does the  function layer work with this? Is it possible to program it to be exactly like the Poker (dedicated fn key, LEDs, etc)?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Sun, 24 March 2013, 21:33:41
Me xD
I have a deal for you.
Buy the GH60, and then I'll prepare 10 versions of firmware for you (if I manage to do 1000Hz). If you correctly tell which 5 of them are 1000Hz, I'll refund your GH60 PCB.;)

Couldn't that just be tested in software?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: OnTheBrink on Sun, 24 March 2013, 23:34:28
So I ordered. I hope I did so correctly.
In terms of keys, are we on our own with that or can we order sets?

SOOOO many group buys happening with keys right now (or just happened) :P
Just make sure that the GH60 layout you picked is compatible with the keys you buy or vice versa

I reallyyyy want the Retro TKLRGBYSYM for my GH60
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=28363.0


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: RickyJ on Sun, 24 March 2013, 23:39:57
What about 1000hz polling?  ;)

I advise taking the red pill.  Escape this world of spoon-fed marketing BS you've subscribed yourself to. ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: v4mp1 on Mon, 25 March 2013, 01:46:43
I feel the difference between 125hz, 500hz and 1000hz when it comes to mice.

And no it is not placebo.

But I don't tested the same with keyboards, but having 1000hz on a keyboard can't be that wrong.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Broadmonkey on Mon, 25 March 2013, 02:09:53
No, you can not feel the difference on a keyboard! You would have to type so inhumanly fast for it to matter in the slightest, and since you only have 10 fingers it wouldn't ever be possible.
Your mouse is a different story because it involves a much different input.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cobraj on Mon, 25 March 2013, 02:20:42
No, you can not feel the difference on a keyboard! You would have to type so inhumanly fast for it to matter in the slightest, and since you only have 10 fingers it wouldn't ever be possible.
Your mouse is a different story because it involves a much different input.

^
Would need an X and Y axis for mouse + lift distance + all that extra stuff apart from just pressing keys
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: plastboks on Mon, 25 March 2013, 03:14:50
This is such a great community. I can't wait to receive it and start hacking  ;D
Ordered two sets.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 25 March 2013, 04:06:59
UPDATE:

There has been a few requests for a dedicated HHKB plate, so I just added one for ANSI. It has split backspace and R-shift. Also Samwisekoi requested his layout changed, so it now has a split L-shift (1.25x + 1x). The OP will now reflect these changes, and the order form will now have that additional dedicated HHKB plate.

HHKB ANSI...............................................................................Samwisekoi
[attach=1][attach=2]




Lastly, I was gone for a day, came back and there were tons of PMs (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/21PMs.png) waiting. I noticed a lot of questions were the same, so if you have questions, please post them in this thread instead. They've either already been answered, or other people have the same questions. I don't have time to answer this many redundant PMs per day. I also gotten a couple of emails and I have no idea who sent those because GH does not forward your account name. Use PMs if you need to reach me.

I'll put an ordering example in the OP if you're new and don't know exactly what to order. If you need an order changed, fill out THIS form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform) instead. It cuts back on PMs, and I can change your order whenever I have time. If you PM me, I might miss it because once I click on the first PM, they all get marked as read.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 07:32:40
UPDATE:

There has been a few requests for a dedicated HHKB plate, so I just added one for ANSI. It has split backspace and R-shift. Also Samwisekoi requested his layout changed, so it now has a split L-shift (1.25x + 1x). The OP will now reflect these changes, and the order form will now have that additional dedicated HHKB plate.

HHKB ANSI...............................................................................Samwisekoi
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

If i want a HHKB layout with a normal sized right shift and normal sized backspace, should i be ordering the ANSI 1.5x?


Lastly, I was gone for a day, came back and there were tons of PMs (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/21PMs.png) waiting. I noticed a lot of questions were the same, so if you have questions, please post them in this thread instead. They've either already been answered, or other people have the same questions. I don't have time to answer this many redundant PMs per day. I also gotten a couple of emails and I have no idea who sent those because GH does not forward your account name. Use PMs if you need to reach me.

I'll put an ordering example in the OP if you're new and don't know exactly what to order. If you need an order changed, fill out THIS form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform) instead. It cuts back on PMs, and I can change your order whenever I have time. If you PM me, I might miss it because once I click on the first PM, they all get marked as read.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 25 March 2013, 07:33:31
If i want a HHKB layout with a normal sized right shift and normal sized backspace, should i be ordering the ANSI 1.5x?

You got it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 07:37:50
If i want a HHKB layout with a normal sized right shift and normal sized backspace, should i be ordering the ANSI 1.5x?

You got it.

yeah i think i messed up my quote but thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: clstyle on Mon, 25 March 2013, 08:25:05
i'm not sure my order was correct.

poker pcb w/ smd x 1
poker plate x 1
pcb stabilizer x1
blue sw x 61
assemble x 1

if any problem, please let me know.
thank you. ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: plastboks on Mon, 25 March 2013, 08:39:17
UPDATE:

There has been a few requests for a dedicated HHKB plate, so I just added one for ANSI. It has split backspace and R-shift. Also Samwisekoi requested his layout changed, so it now has a split L-shift (1.25x + 1x). The OP will now reflect these changes, and the order form will now have that additional dedicated HHKB plate.

HHKB ANSI...............................................................................Samwisekoi
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)




Lastly, I was gone for a day, came back and there were tons of PMs (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/21PMs.png) waiting. I noticed a lot of questions were the same, so if you have questions, please post them in this thread instead. They've either already been answered, or other people have the same questions. I don't have time to answer this many redundant PMs per day. I also gotten a couple of emails and I have no idea who sent those because GH does not forward your account name. Use PMs if you need to reach me.

I'll put an ordering example in the OP if you're new and don't know exactly what to order. If you need an order changed, fill out THIS form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform) instead. It cuts back on PMs, and I can change your order whenever I have time. If you PM me, I might miss it because once I click on the first PM, they all get marked as read.

This left be a little confused. I would like a HHKB like the original, but can't see the "Dedicated HHKB" plate in the order form. I have ordered a "ANSI 1.5x (pure shift)", but assume this isn't correct?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 09:05:21
UPDATE:

There has been a few requests for a dedicated HHKB plate, so I just added one for ANSI. It has split backspace and R-shift. Also Samwisekoi requested his layout changed, so it now has a split L-shift (1.25x + 1x). The OP will now reflect these changes, and the order form will now have that additional dedicated HHKB plate.

HHKB ANSI...............................................................................Samwisekoi
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)



Lastly, I was gone for a day, came back and there were tons of PMs (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/21PMs.png) waiting. I noticed a lot of questions were the same, so if you have questions, please post them in this thread instead. They've either already been answered, or other people have the same questions. I don't have time to answer this many redundant PMs per day. I also gotten a couple of emails and I have no idea who sent those because GH does not forward your account name. Use PMs if you need to reach me.

I'll put an ordering example in the OP if you're new and don't know exactly what to order. If you need an order changed, fill out THIS form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform) instead. It cuts back on PMs, and I can change your order whenever I have time. If you PM me, I might miss it because once I click on the first PM, they all get marked as read.

This left be a little confused. I would like a HHKB like the original, but can't see the "Dedicated HHKB" plate in the order form. I have ordered a "ANSI 1.5x (pure shift)", but assume this isn't correct?

I am pretty sure for the HHKB Layout you can order either ANSI 1.5x or ANSI 1.5x PURE SHIFT, depending on the size of the right shift you want. i think the problem most people will find with the hhkb layout is finding a case that will fit it correctly. i think i am going to get WFD's case, because that is the only one i see that will fit it
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 25 March 2013, 10:11:53
UPDATE:

There has been a few requests for a dedicated HHKB plate, so I just added one for ANSI. It has split backspace and R-shift. Also Samwisekoi requested his layout changed, so it now has a split L-shift (1.25x + 1x). The OP will now reflect these changes, and the order form will now have that additional dedicated HHKB plate.

Samwisekoi
(Attachment Link)


Thank you very much!

Also, FYI to all, I am going to open up a Klaxon/GH60++/RGBY Mods group buy to support all of the GH60 configurations.
[attach=1]

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 10:31:25
UPDATE:

There has been a few requests for a dedicated HHKB plate, so I just added one for ANSI. It has split backspace and R-shift. Also Samwisekoi requested his layout changed, so it now has a split L-shift (1.25x + 1x). The OP will now reflect these changes, and the order form will now have that additional dedicated HHKB plate.

Samwisekoi
(Attachment Link)


Thank you very much!

Also, FYI to all, I am going to open up a Klaxon/GH60++/RGBY Mods group buy to support all of the GH60 configurations.
(Attachment Link)

 - Ron | samwisekoi

 :D ;D that would be awesome
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 25 March 2013, 10:47:43
UPDATE:

There has been a few requests for a dedicated HHKB plate, so I just added one for ANSI. It has split backspace and R-shift. Also Samwisekoi requested his layout changed, so it now has a split L-shift (1.25x + 1x). The OP will now reflect these changes, and the order form will now have that additional dedicated HHKB plate.

Samwisekoi
(Attachment Link)


Thank you very much!

Also, FYI to all, I am going to open up a Klaxon/GH60++/RGBY Mods group buy to support all of the GH60 configurations.
(Attachment Link)

 - Ron | samwisekoi


If you can add a split enter for the Gh60 config would be great.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: bpiphany on Mon, 25 March 2013, 10:57:43
Me xD
I have a deal for you.
Buy the GH60, and then I'll prepare 10 versions of firmware for you (if I manage to do 1000Hz). If you correctly tell which 5 of them are 1000Hz, I'll refund your GH60 PCB.;)

Deal!  :cool:

But first test if you are able to manage the 1000hz. If yes, i buy a pcb :D

I did far more than 1kHz sampling with my own code, different keyboard, a fair bit simpler but still without trying very hard. I measured that with an oscilloscope while the keyboard was "idling". When communicating with the computer that may decrease a bit. But no, 1kHz ultra polling is completely pointless. There are far more interesting compromises.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 25 March 2013, 10:58:26
UPDATE:

There has been a few requests for a dedicated HHKB plate, so I just added one for ANSI. It has split backspace and R-shift. Also Samwisekoi requested his layout changed, so it now has a split L-shift (1.25x + 1x). The OP will now reflect these changes, and the order form will now have that additional dedicated HHKB plate.

Samwisekoi
(Attachment Link)



Thank you very much!

Also, FYI to all, I am going to open up a Klaxon/GH60++/RGBY Mods group buy to support all of the GH60 configurations.
(Attachment Link)

 - Ron | samwisekoi


If you can add a split enter for the Gh60 config would be great.

he said all GH60 Configurations
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 25 March 2013, 11:01:40
Yeah I was just looking at the picture.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: RickyJ on Mon, 25 March 2013, 11:17:40
I feel the difference between 125hz, 500hz and 1000hz when it comes to mice.

And no it is not placebo.

But I don't tested the same with keyboards, but having 1000hz on a keyboard can't be that wrong.

As said, mice are a completely different story. Keyboards don't have to transmit nearly as much data, and timing isn't as critical. Why have 1ms response time when the controller has to spend ~30ms to debounce the switch?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:16:02
If you can add a split enter for the Gh60 config would be great.

So do you mean a 1.25 Row 3 "Enter" and a 1.00 Row 3 keycap with a different legend?

In what, White on Red?  (My palette is Red, Blue, Green, Yellow and White.)

I can add those keys, and I already have pricing; I just need to know exactly what you want.  And, of course, volume determines cost.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: morpheus on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:18:38
Quick question:

I'm still confused about the pricing.

If I want a GH60 with Red MX in the Poker design, all assembled...how much would it cost in $US + shipping to US?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 25 March 2013, 12:23:10
If you can add a split enter for the Gh60 config would be great.

So do you mean a 1.25 Row 3 "Enter" and a 1.00 Row 3 keycap with a different legend?

In what, White on Red?  (My palette is Red, Blue, Green, Yellow and White.)

I can add those keys, and I already have pricing; I just need to know exactly what you want.  And, of course, volume determines cost.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)


Yeah, 1x and 1.25x on Row 3 for the enter key as well as L.Shift with 1x, 1.25, and 1x backspace. White on Red is perfect for my Klaxon set =D

Also for the R.Shift 1.75x and 1x - I didn't get the tsangan set for Klaxon
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Mon, 25 March 2013, 14:13:40
+1 for a 1.25 Row 3 "Enter" in any color gets better price
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Fred on Mon, 25 March 2013, 14:14:00
Hope I got the ordering right. Baylife!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: miscsubbin on Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:41:35
Hey I'm pretty new here and I was wondering if something like this would ever show up again (I'm not in the position to be buying a new keyboard now). If not,  what would I need to buy now that I wouldn't be able to in the future? PCB, plate, case (let's hope not)? That way I could buy as little as possible, and then finish it when I have the money.

Thanks, a lot.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cobraj on Mon, 25 March 2013, 16:56:40
Hey I'm pretty new here and I was wondering if something like this would ever show up again (I'm not in the position to be buying a new keyboard now). If not,  what would I need to buy now that I wouldn't be able to in the future? PCB, plate, case (let's hope not)? That way I could buy as little as possible, and then finish it when I have the money.

Thanks, a lot.

Sounds about right.
But if you are really strapped for cash, you can do without the plate, but then just note that you have to buy PCB-mounted switches then. (Plate-mounted switches will not work without a plate).
Tinlong has an interest check for plastic cases, so they should be a lot cheaper than the aluminium ones. Not nearly as nice, but cheaper :P
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 25 March 2013, 18:24:20
Can someone tell me the size of the LED required to fit in a cherry switch LED hole? Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Mon, 25 March 2013, 18:30:44
Can someone tell me the size of the LED required to fit in a cherry switch LED hole? Thanks.
t1 aka 3mm
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 25 March 2013, 18:59:08
That's T1
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Mon, 25 March 2013, 20:43:40
That's T1
oops my bad but still 3mm
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: OnTheBrink on Mon, 25 March 2013, 21:05:19
I would like to add LEDs to my keys but I have mine being pre-built. Is this possible?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 25 March 2013, 22:02:38
GH60 GREAT!
ALL LAY-OUT Compatible
....GOOD

I drawing to GH60 mix layout..

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Lugoues on Tue, 26 March 2013, 00:20:34
UPDATE:
 Also Samwisekoi requested his layout changed, so it now has a split L-shift (1.25x + 1x). The OP will now reflect these changes, and the order form will now have that additional dedicated HHKB plate.
Noooooo  :-[
Hmmm... now what do I pick
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ItsBc on Tue, 26 March 2013, 03:43:08

Thank you very much!

Also, FYI to all, I am going to open up a Klaxon/GH60++/RGBY Mods group buy to support all of the GH60 configurations.
(Attachment Link)

 - Ron | samwisekoi

awesome  :-*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: BimboBB on Tue, 26 March 2013, 05:52:28
UPDATE:

There has been a few requests for a dedicated HHKB plate, so I just added one for ANSI. It has split backspace and R-shift. Also Samwisekoi requested his layout changed, so it now has a split L-shift (1.25x + 1x). The OP will now reflect these changes, and the order form will now have that additional dedicated HHKB plate.

HHKB ANSI...............................................................................Samwisekoi
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)


@WFD

can you make this "dedicated HHKB-plate" for ISO as well? (i mean including a split backspace)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: blueasjim on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:08:40
If there's an assembly service, will this include soldering? I'm very interested in this but no skill in soldering.  :eek:
Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Sai on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:18:51
If there's an assembly service, will this include soldering? I'm very interested in this but no skill in soldering.  :eek:
Thanks

yes. it will include
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:19:07
If there's an assembly service, will this include soldering? I'm very interested in this but no skill in soldering.  :eek:
Thanks

Yes, assembly service gets you an assembled GH60, no soldering required.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: blueasjim on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:22:06
If there's an assembly service, will this include soldering? I'm very interested in this but no skill in soldering.  :eek:
Thanks

Yes, assembly service gets you an assembled GH60, no soldering required.

Whoa. I'm not seeing a down side to this at all!
I will place order once we get home. Thx for swift replies jd & Sai
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:29:21
I would like to add LEDs to my keys but I have mine being pre-built. Is this possible?

No.  It does not support LEDs
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:33:40
I would like to add LEDs to my keys but I have mine being pre-built. Is this possible?

No.  It does not support LEDs

The GH60 does not support full backlighting. This was done by design, as backlighting was not one of the objectives of the project.

As of Rev. A of the PCB, the only LED supported is Caps Lock. In the final revision, there may be the option to add LEDs to the WASD cluster and Esc, but nothing has been finalized, yet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Luke on Tue, 26 March 2013, 08:55:31
I would like to add LEDs to my keys but I have mine being pre-built. Is this possible?

No.  It does not support LEDs

The GH60 does not support full backlighting. This was done by design, as backlighting was not one of the objectives of the project.

As of Rev. A of the PCB, the only LED supported is Caps Lock. In the final revision, there may be the option to add LEDs to the WASD cluster and Esc, but nothing has been finalized, yet.

Beat me to it :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: edrago on Tue, 26 March 2013, 09:24:53
If anyone can help me and give some directions I would be grateful.
It's possible to make something similar to the Zelia Neo 87? Image References (http://fight.pcgames.com.cn/waishe/news/1112/2415715.html)

I know that I should get only a PCB, without plate. How hard would be to find a case for it?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 26 March 2013, 09:31:15
If anyone can help me and give some directions I would be grateful.
It's possible to make something similar to the Zelia Neo 87? Image References (http://fight.pcgames.com.cn/waishe/news/1112/2415715.html)

I know that I should get only a PCB, without plate. How hard would be to find a case for it?

Thanks in advance

Not really, that's a significantly larger keyboard than the GH60, being a tenkeyless.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: edrago on Tue, 26 March 2013, 09:39:02
Not really, that's a significantly larger keyboard than the GH60, being a tenkeyless.

I don't mean the layout as is, I have no problem with something like Poker (I have a Choc Mini ATM). I just wanted to know if was possible that "flat"design or how I could achieve it, I don't know how to describe it.

Thks for the reply.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 26 March 2013, 09:42:52
Not really, that's a significantly larger keyboard than the GH60, being a tenkeyless.

I don't mean the layout as is, I have no problem with something like Poker (I have a Choc Mini ATM). I just wanted to know if was possible that "flat"design or how I could achieve it, I don't know how to describe it.

Thks for the reply.

If you want something "flat" like that, your best bet is to try and find a Vortex CNC Pure case. It is a low profile design, similar to the one in those pictures, although not quite as low. The GH60 PCB will fit perfectly in the Pure CNC case.

You would order the GH60 PCB, switches, and stabilizers, and then try to find one of those Pure CNC cases.


This picture from Mashby shows the profile of the Pure CNC case quite well:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8213/8438789960_ff5b641b7b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mashby/8438789960/)
Side-by-Side with Keyboard (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mashby/8438789960/) by Michael Ashby (http://www.flickr.com/people/mashby/), on Flickr
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 26 March 2013, 10:41:33
Neo style case would be kind of cool, it's just a block of plastic with an angle to it more or less, then all that would be needed asides from cutting a block of some material at an angle would be a notch for the usb connector and some holes drilled and tapped to secure the pcb to it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CTollemache on Tue, 26 March 2013, 10:48:27
Just went in for a GH60, poker plate, and some plate mounted stabs. I think I joined geekhack at just the right time! It's like the ultimate keyboard. Now to sit on the classifieds for a poker...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 26 March 2013, 10:52:23
Not really, that's a significantly larger keyboard than the GH60, being a tenkeyless.

I don't mean the layout as is, I have no problem with something like Poker (I have a Choc Mini ATM). I just wanted to know if was possible that "flat"design or how I could achieve it, I don't know how to describe it.

Thks for the reply.

If you want something "flat" like that, your best bet is to try and find a Vortex CNC Pure case. It is a low profile design, similar to the one in those pictures, although not quite as low. The GH60 PCB will fit perfectly in the Pure CNC case.

You would order the GH60 PCB, switches, and stabilizers, and then try to find one of those Pure CNC cases.


This picture from Mashby shows the profile of the Pure CNC case quite well:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8213/8438789960_ff5b641b7b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mashby/8438789960/)
Side-by-Side with Keyboard (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mashby/8438789960/) by Michael Ashby (http://www.flickr.com/people/mashby/), on Flickr
It's crazy to me that he takes all of his photos with an iPotato 4.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 26 March 2013, 10:59:40
It's crazy to me that he takes all of his photos with an iPotato 4.

Right?? It shocks me every single time. I even asked him about it pointblank and he said nope, I'm on Team Potato.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 26 March 2013, 11:31:27
I have updated the GH60 'samwisekoi' mockup to match the change WFD made to the plate.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg829197#msg829197

Thanks WFD et al!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 26 March 2013, 12:00:22
jsut bumbled my way through my order, lets hope i didnt muck that up
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 26 March 2013, 12:10:12
gonna post my order tonight so hopefully someone can check it out for me
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 26 March 2013, 15:21:34
I'm assuming that that SMD soldering isn't exactly the easiest thing is it?  Since I'm working on a small budget, I'm trying to see if I could do it on my own to cut cost.  The PCB, plate, and stabilizers is already pushing it a little for me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 26 March 2013, 15:27:33
I'm assuming that that SMD soldering isn't exactly the easiest thing is it?  Since I'm working on a small budget, I'm trying to see if I could do it on my own to cut cost.  The PCB, plate, and stabilizers is already pushing it a little for me.

Actually, it's really, extremely difficult. Especially the crystal. You don't want to try and save $15 that way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: whiskytango on Tue, 26 March 2013, 15:33:39
I think the time saved alone makes it worth the extra $15. I am thinking about getting an extra kit in the DIY flavor just as a challenge. Sort of like building a model airplane. But I am also getting one or two assembled so that I know they will work. But yeah, go look at the instructions on doing the SMD work earlier in the thread. No way is it worth trying to save $15 over

Edit: See the 3rd post here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828889#msg828889) for instructions.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 26 March 2013, 15:34:59
Actually, it's really, extremely difficult. Especially the crystal. You don't want to try and save $15 that way.

Alright, thanks.  The video made it look doable, but I was hesitant.  There's a hackerspace near me with an SMD station, so I figured it might be possible for me to do it, but if it's that tough, it definitely would make more sense to spend the $15 and get it done for me than to cheap out and hope I don't screw up.

Looks like I'll need to scrounge up a little more cash or sell off my Das to get this.

I think the time saved alone makes it worth the extra $15. I am thinking about getting an extra kit in the DIY flavor just as a challenge. Sort of like building a model airplane. But I am also getting one or two assembled so that I know they will work. But yeah, go look at the instructions on doing the SMD work earlier in the thread. No way is it worth trying to save $15 over

Part of the fun to me is putting the work into it.  The time saved doesn't really factor in since it's a fun, stress relieving project.  My back may hurt from it, but there's a satisfaction of doing it myself.  If I could save $15 while also having fun with it, it's worth it.  If, on the other hand, it will be nearly impossible to do and cause me frustration, I'll get it done for me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nebo on Tue, 26 March 2013, 15:42:27
Who is doing the assembly services? If I were to sell my phantom I'd want to keep my switches I ordered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 26 March 2013, 15:45:40
Who is doing the assembly services? If I were to sell my phantom I'd want to keep my switches I ordered.

WFD and I are assembling US orders, komar is doing int'l. Unless you contact someone else to do it, that is.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nebo on Tue, 26 March 2013, 15:46:54
Who is doing the assembly services? If I were to sell my phantom I'd want to keep my switches I ordered.

WFD and I are assembling US orders, komar is doing int'l. Unless you contact someone else to do it, that is.
Alright, looks like I might need to somehow get a hold of TP which is super easy these days....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 26 March 2013, 15:59:55
Who is doing the assembly services? If I were to sell my phantom I'd want to keep my switches I ordered.

WFD and I are assembling US orders, komar is doing int'l. Unless you contact someone else to do it, that is.
Alright, looks like I might need to somehow get a hold of TP which is super easy these days....

SmallFry is your best hope there.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: bvtton on Tue, 26 March 2013, 17:13:19
ordered!  :) will we be receiving an email confirmation or something? (successfully submitted the form, but just want to make sure the order went though)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tradet on Tue, 26 March 2013, 17:34:18
Oh my goodness. I discovered the open group buy with 13 pages already!

This should be a valid order I hope? 2 switches for a space and 64 other keys for the GH60 max keys layout (hope I counted correctly). I don't want to solder the SMD parts, but I think it'd be fun to solder the switches and stuff.

Code: [Select]
-1x GH60 PCB SMD presoldered
-1x GH60 (max keys) plate
-1x cherry (plate-mounted) stabilizer set, 6.25x spacebar wire
-4x MX gray switches (2 for a space?)
-68x MX clear switches (counted 64 keys, 4 extra)

Also when flashing the microcontroller, will a mini-B USB cable suffice?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Rule16 on Tue, 26 March 2013, 20:15:33
Are the plates the phantom style? I'm interested in getting clears in this, but I'm not sure if I'd want ergo clears or not... I'll probably get this anyways just because its 60% w/ backplate and I don't have to mod the clears in.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 26 March 2013, 20:18:01
jd, looking back at your poker sale post, you said you had i believe said 'red, green and magenta' as led options for colors. and i know someone said wasd, esc, caps lock and some other keys (winkeys) might become available as an option...should i be putting down those colors in the comments section?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WRXChris on Tue, 26 March 2013, 20:28:45
I'm so torn between layouts and can't decide which plate to order!  I would love an HHKB layout, but that really limits the compatible keysets.  I think I'm gonna have to go with the ANSI 1.5. Ugh, decisions, decisions!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: yearn4 on Tue, 26 March 2013, 20:32:09
are these going to use micro or mini usb?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 26 March 2013, 21:27:09
In addition to the PCB, you will need the following to complete the build:
  • Switches
  • Stabilizers
  • Case
  • Keycaps
  • Plate (optional)
  • mini-B USB cable.
[/list]   
 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Rule16 on Wed, 27 March 2013, 00:07:03
Never-mind about the first question, this one is much more important, how would one program this keyboard? =This one decides DEFINITELY if I get it or not, because I don't want to take it apart and I don't know any programming=
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Wed, 27 March 2013, 01:16:13
Would be able to see the spread sheet being populated? It would be nice to see what we have ordered so we can verify we're getting what we want.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 27 March 2013, 01:28:02
Mini update: some stats after 6 days

185 PCBs ordered
169 plates ordered

When I have time, I'll make a separate form to post your orders. I think I caught up with all PMs, but if I missed yours then send another one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Broadmonkey on Wed, 27 March 2013, 03:30:51
Never-mind about the first question, this one is much more important, how would one program this keyboard? =This one decides DEFINITELY if I get it or not, because I don't want to take it apart and I don't know any programming=

Read reply #2 on the first page!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tym on Wed, 27 March 2013, 05:10:33
ordered!  :) will we be receiving an email confirmation or something? (successfully submitted the form, but just want to make sure the order went though)
You wont get an email confirmation, but as long as the form said order submitted they got it :D You'll get the invoice whenever they are sent out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dgsbllx on Wed, 27 March 2013, 05:20:12
Right I don't understand why the plates and names shown in post 2 don't match to the names on the order form.

I want an exact cherry replica of a HHKB, so am I ordering the ' true" HHKB plate'?

Cheers
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ItsBc on Wed, 27 March 2013, 07:03:14
Going to sign up for the GB, just trying to decide which switches I want. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: edrago on Wed, 27 March 2013, 09:16:00
If you want something "flat" like that, your best bet is to try and find a Vortex CNC Pure case. It is a low profile design, similar to the one in those pictures, although not quite as low. The GH60 PCB will fit perfectly in the Pure CNC case.

You would order the GH60 PCB, switches, and stabilizers, and then try to find one of those Pure CNC cases.

This picture from Mashby shows the profile of the Pure CNC case quite well:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8213/8438789960_ff5b641b7b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mashby/8438789960/)
Side-by-Side with Keyboard (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mashby/8438789960/) by Michael Ashby (http://www.flickr.com/people/mashby/), on Flickr

I think this will do. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll research a little more and place my order soon
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 27 March 2013, 09:28:13
jd, looking back at your poker sale post, you said you had i believe said 'red, green and magenta' as led options for colors. and i know someone said wasd, esc, caps lock and some other keys (winkeys) might become available as an option...should i be putting down those colors in the comments section?

Those are colors I have for doing custom Pokers, which has nothing to do with the GH60 assembly. Once we know more about LED options, there may be some changes or options available. As of this moment, the only LED supported on the PCB is Caps Lock.



Never-mind about the first question, this one is much more important, how would one program this keyboard? =This one decides DEFINITELY if I get it or not, because I don't want to take it apart and I don't know any programming=

If you order an assembled GH60, the controller will be flashed with a firmware before it ships to you. There will be no further programming required, unless you want to change the keymap. Also, the plates are the "Phantom-style" where you can open the switch without desoldering.



Right I don't understand why the plates and names shown in post 2 don't match to the names on the order form.

I want an exact cherry replica of a HHKB, so am I ordering the ' true" HHKB plate'?

Cheers

Yes, order the "true HHKB" plate. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: boost on Wed, 27 March 2013, 09:29:54
My wallet hurts but can't wait to get these :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 27 March 2013, 12:52:43
Sorry for being daft, I just scrapped my previous order and changed it based on the example order from the OP.

Apologies for the noise.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 27 March 2013, 12:55:00
I wish we could get GBs like this, with high costs that are due a good amount of time away, into Matt3o's app, so that you can keep track of your order and cost, and easily modify if need be. I think I already forgot what I ordered...
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 27 March 2013, 13:34:45
If we were able to switch to Matt3o's form at this point, I would even offer to transfer all the current orders into the new form. But I don't know how much he is planning to charge for use and/or hosting, if it's even an option.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 27 March 2013, 13:54:37
I wish we could get GBs like this, with high costs that are due a good amount of time away, into Matt3o's app, so that you can keep track of your order and cost, and easily modify if need be. I think I already forgot what I ordered...
If this is still possible, it would make it easier and more convenient for everyone. That's up to Matt3o if he is ok with this. Google doc is nice, but is still greatly limited.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: aggiejy on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:26:40
I was just thinking this same thing! I want to add some, but don't remember what I ordered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:30:55
Matt3o's system>Google Docs ALL DAY LONG!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:47:41
Matt3o, where you at, son? People looking for yo goods. If we can get a price for it, depending on what it is, I would be willing to chip in. I think it's worth it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Wed, 27 March 2013, 15:32:58

The GH60 does not support full backlighting. This was done by design, as backlighting was not one of the objectives of the project.

As of Rev. A of the PCB, the only LED supported is Caps Lock. In the final revision, there may be the option to add LEDs to the WASD cluster and Esc, but nothing has been finalized, yet.

If there are going to be any through holes (besides caps, esc, or space because those make good indicators), they should be on all the keys. Not everyone uses wasd to game. I personally use esdf and know people who use rdfg. Plus if I were a lefty I'd use ijkl. It's not like holes complicate things if they aren't hooked to anything.

Not a fan of gaming set backlighting (or keycaps, or anything gaming set related for that matter), but I'm sure there are people who are, and some might not use wasd.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Rule16 on Wed, 27 March 2013, 15:37:51
Never-mind about the first question, this one is much more important, how would one program this keyboard? =This one decides DEFINITELY if I get it or not, because I don't want to take it apart and I don't know any programming=

Read reply #2 on the first page!
Oh... its USB? For some weird reason I just assumed it would be a PS/2 keyboard... damn.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: inteli722 on Wed, 27 March 2013, 15:39:24
Never-mind about the first question, this one is much more important, how would one program this keyboard? =This one decides DEFINITELY if I get it or not, because I don't want to take it apart and I don't know any programming=

Read reply #2 on the first page!
Oh... its USB? For some weird reason I just assumed it would be a PS/2 keyboard... damn.

the end on the keyboard is a Mini-USB B, but I've seen plenty of cables with Mini-USB B to PS/2, so just get one of those! I need one :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: miscsubbin on Wed, 27 March 2013, 15:47:35
Hey I'm pretty new here and I was wondering if something like this would ever show up again (I'm not in the position to be buying a new keyboard now). If not,  what would I need to buy now that I wouldn't be able to in the future? PCB, plate, case (let's hope not)? That way I could buy as little as possible, and then finish it when I have the money.

Thanks, a lot.

Sounds about right.
But if you are really strapped for cash, you can do without the plate, but then just note that you have to buy PCB-mounted switches then. (Plate-mounted switches will not work without a plate).
Tinlong has an interest check for plastic cases, so they should be a lot cheaper than the aluminium ones. Not nearly as nice, but cheaper :P

So the things I would have to buy now are the PCB, plate (if I want it), and case. Are you sure that I definitely need to buy a case right now? My whole point is to get the parts that I would be unable to get at a later date, and sadly a case wouldn't allow for that. It seems like a pretty standard case design so I felt like it would show up more often. It's just a poker case right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Wed, 27 March 2013, 15:49:40

So the things I would have to buy now are the PCB, plate (if I want it), and case. Are you sure that I definitely need to buy a case right now? My whole point is to get the parts that I would be unable to get at a later date, and sadly a case wouldn't allow for that. It seems like a pretty standard case design so I felt like it would show up more often. It's just a poker case right?

Gonna be a while before these ship to you. You can wait on the case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 27 March 2013, 15:51:54
The plates are probably something that you won't see being offered all too often, because it'll pretty much be assumed that everyone who bought a PCB bought a plate for it. If anything, you'd be most likely to find a Poker plate, but that limits you to that layout. So, if you're looking for a custom layout, now is really the time to get the plate for it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Rule16 on Wed, 27 March 2013, 16:18:38
Never-mind about the first question, this one is much more important, how would one program this keyboard? =This one decides DEFINITELY if I get it or not, because I don't want to take it apart and I don't know any programming=

Read reply #2 on the first page!
Oh... its USB? For some weird reason I just assumed it would be a PS/2 keyboard... damn.

the end on the keyboard is a Mini-USB B, but I've seen plenty of cables with Mini-USB B to PS/2, so just get one of those! I need one :(
Would that make it have NKRO? If not then I'll still have to pass even though I would love to have a 60% keyboard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: miscsubbin on Wed, 27 March 2013, 16:22:24
The plates are probably something that you won't see being offered all too often, because it'll pretty much be assumed that everyone who bought a PCB bought a plate for it. If anything, you'd be most likely to find a Poker plate, but that limits you to that layout. So, if you're looking for a custom layout, now is really the time to get the plate for it.

Ok, thanks a lot.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 27 March 2013, 16:23:31
Would that make it have NKRO? If not then I'll still have to pass even though I would love to have a 60% keyboard.
What exactly is your question? Are you worried about NKRO over USB?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glod on Wed, 27 March 2013, 16:32:11
Never-mind about the first question, this one is much more important, how would one program this keyboard? =This one decides DEFINITELY if I get it or not, because I don't want to take it apart and I don't know any programming=

Read reply #2 on the first page!
Oh... its USB? For some weird reason I just assumed it would be a PS/2 keyboard... damn.

the end on the keyboard is a Mini-USB B, but I've seen plenty of cables with Mini-USB B to PS/2, so just get one of those! I need one :(

komar will have to answer this one but i am pretty sure it wouldn't support ps2, i thought i saw this discussed before.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Rule16 on Wed, 27 March 2013, 16:35:05
Would that make it have NKRO? If not then I'll still have to pass even though I would love to have a 60% keyboard.
What exactly is your question? Are you worried about NKRO over USB?
I'm worried about if I can get NKRO over the PS/2 thing that you were talking about. Also how much latency that there would be because I'm a gamer.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 27 March 2013, 16:37:40
You're going to get NKRO over USB via a USB to Mini USB cable. And that is pretty much your only option.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Broadmonkey on Wed, 27 March 2013, 16:41:32
Would that make it have NKRO? If not then I'll still have to pass even though I would love to have a 60% keyboard.
What exactly is your question? Are you worried about NKRO over USB?
I'm worried about if I can get NKRO over the PS/2 thing that you were talking about. Also how much latency that there would be because I'm a gamer.

NKRO is NKRO. There shouldn't be any difference between PS/2 or USB in that regard here. You shouldn't worry about latency either.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: L4yercake on Wed, 27 March 2013, 16:47:45
Would that make it have NKRO? If not then I'll still have to pass even though I would love to have a 60% keyboard.
What exactly is your question? Are you worried about NKRO over USB?
I'm worried about if I can get NKRO over the PS/2 thing that you were talking about. Also how much latency that there would be because I'm a gamer.

NKRO is NKRO. There shouldn't be any difference between PS/2 or USB in that regard here. You shouldn't worry about latency either.

I'm worried.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 27 March 2013, 16:59:31
I believe the hardware itself supports NKRO and high polling frequency. But it will depend on the firmware to implement these two.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Rule16 on Wed, 27 March 2013, 17:02:28
Would that make it have NKRO? If not then I'll still have to pass even though I would love to have a 60% keyboard.
What exactly is your question? Are you worried about NKRO over USB?
I'm worried about if I can get NKRO over the PS/2 thing that you were talking about. Also how much latency that there would be because I'm a gamer.

NKRO is NKRO. There shouldn't be any difference between PS/2 or USB in that regard here. You shouldn't worry about latency either.
Yeah... I'm worried too, I don't play COD so its not like I can just use any keyboard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Broadmonkey on Wed, 27 March 2013, 17:53:06
Your mouse don't use PS/2 so why should your keyboard?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glod on Wed, 27 March 2013, 18:27:22
lol polling rates and nkro; you guys are drinking the marketing kool aid. 6kro is fine for literally everything. if you think you need all this stuff you are not worthy of the awesomeness that is the GH60.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 27 March 2013, 18:33:11
6KRO is fine, the latency is fine. Improve your reaction time and stop blaming the equipments :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 27 March 2013, 18:45:12
Your mouse don't use PS/2 so why should your keyboard?
if i have a PS/2 port and a ps/2 compatible device... why shouldn't i use ps/2

also unlike latency nkro can be critical for gaming if you play rhythm games like o2mania (or other maina games) where you would have to press 7 keys at once. :)  (just putting that out there)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: salmo on Wed, 27 March 2013, 19:20:28
Your mouse don't use PS/2 so why should your keyboard?
if i have a PS/2 port and a ps/2 compatible device... why shouldn't i use ps/2

also unlike latency nkro can be critical for gaming if you play rhythm games like o2mania (or other maina games) where you would have to press 7 keys at once. :)  (just putting that out there)

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm betting you'd have to write firmware that autodetects and speaks PS/2.  Or you'd have to use some sort of active USB to PS/2 adapter (read as latency).  The design basically has a teensy integrated into it, which has the hardware and software libraries to fairly easily create USB devices.  If you're wondering what can be done I'd ask around about what folks have done with the Phantom boards.  They're similar.

And this isn't directed at yo in particular but a lot of questions that have come up lately:
If you want weird layouts in hardware, or to write fun function layers, or just like doing stuff for yourself, then this is for you.  But if you want "gaming gear" that meets all the cool specs, you're probably best off buying that instead, unless you want to try and implement it (and risk not being able to).  This really is a DIY effort, that folks are trying to make as easy as possible (and doing an excellent job of it).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 27 March 2013, 20:11:06
Your mouse don't use PS/2 so why should your keyboard?
if i have a PS/2 port and a ps/2 compatible device... why shouldn't i use ps/2

also unlike latency nkro can be critical for gaming if you play rhythm games like o2mania (or other maina games) where you would have to press 7 keys at once. :)  (just putting that out there)

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm betting you'd have to write firmware that autodetects and speaks PS/2.  Or you'd have to use some sort of active USB to PS/2 adapter (read as latency).  The design basically has a teensy integrated into it, which has the hardware and software libraries to fairly easily create USB devices.  If you're wondering what can be done I'd ask around about what folks have done with the Phantom boards.  They're similar.

And this isn't directed at yo in particular but a lot of questions that have come up lately:
If you want weird layouts in hardware, or to write fun function layers, or just like doing stuff for yourself, then this is for you.  But if you want "gaming gear" that meets all the cool specs, you're probably best off buying that instead, unless you want to try and implement it (and risk not being able to).  This really is a DIY effort, that folks are trying to make as easy as possible (and doing an excellent job of it).

for 1: i am just saying that if you can use PS/2 why not use it?

for 2: i just brought that up because people say that nkro has the same usefulness as 1k polling etc. while this is not true.
also true if you don't want to deal with DIY don't go DIY.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 27 March 2013, 20:57:48
I don't know if this question was answered but, what mx switch types can we ask for? I assume the for usual suspects are already included. (Ex. Blues, reds, blacks, browns) Is there a possibility of  requesting other switch types like greens, whites, greys??
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Rule16 on Wed, 27 March 2013, 21:23:08
6KRO is fine, the latency is fine. Improve your reaction time and stop blaming the equipments :p
I never blame the equipment except when the equipment is to blame. A few months ago I tested the theory of "6KRO is fine", by taking the PS/2 off of my Das and playing CS competitively with it. I noticed that my K/D was significantly less, thus proving my theory.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: vardhana on Wed, 27 March 2013, 22:37:48
I don't know if this question was answered but, what mx switch types can we ask for? I assume the for usual suspects are already included. (Ex. Blues, reds, blacks, browns) Is there a possibility of  requesting other switch types like greens, whites, greys??


See this...
what are the options for the switches?
Are can we get any type of switch? I'm looking at grey and whites

Switches and stabilizers

I was a little reluctant to include switches and stabilizers with this GB at first, because it'll just further complicate ordering, choices, invoice, and organization/management. But I figured it'll be a tad cheaper and easier to have a centralized place to get stuff.

7bit will just send 1 large order directly to us. Feel free to get it directly from him. We're not in control of how much they cost, choices, and when they're available. But ordering large amounts in a GB can be cheaper for everyone. Refer HERE (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html) for direct info and which switch choices are available. Then just fill out which ones you want in the order form.

As for stabilizers, I only have plate-mounted cherries, but I believe alaricljs will get a bunch of PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers soon. You can get Costars directly from WASDkeyboards, or if there are enough orders for the costars at the end, we'll put a large order for those as well. The problem is the spacebar wires. They can't be bought anywhere, so they'll have to be made. I'll post a guide so you can make your own. I'll make as many as I can, but it takes me ~10 minutes each, so I don't think I'll be making 200+ of them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Polymer on Wed, 27 March 2013, 23:15:35
6KRO is fine, the latency is fine. Improve your reaction time and stop blaming the equipments :p
I never blame the equipment except when the equipment is to blame. A few months ago I tested the theory of "6KRO is fine", by taking the PS/2 off of my Das and playing CS competitively with it. I noticed that my K/D was significantly less, thus proving my theory.

But 6KRO doesn't mean a maximum of 6 keys while you're playing...it means certain combinations of keys may only get you up to six. 

So how often did you run your test?  Did you do it blind?  Pretty poor "proof" of a theory...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: bpiphany on Thu, 28 March 2013, 02:32:58
But 6KRO doesn't mean a maximum of 6 keys while you're playing...it means certain combinations of keys may only get you up to six. 

No, in this case it means  maximum 6 different keys at a time. That is a limitation of the communication protocol (which can and have been side-stepped). That is actually 6 keys plus any combination of the 8 modifiers Shift, Alt, Win, Ctrl - left and right.

But you still need to be using very specific applications to need more than that. And ultra polling is just marketing bollocks. PS2 is the technology of yesterday...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Skull_Angel on Thu, 28 March 2013, 03:08:22
6KRO is fine, the latency is fine. Improve your reaction time and stop blaming the equipments :p
I never blame the equipment except when the equipment is to blame. A few months ago I tested the theory of "6KRO is fine", by taking the PS/2 off of my Das and playing CS competitively with it. I noticed that my K/D was significantly less, thus proving my theory.

Gamer here (mostly MMO based), but anything that changed going from PS/2 to USB resulting in a lower K:D was all in your mind.

I've researched this a bit and if you don't believe me a few searches into the difference between low-speed/full-speed USB v. PS/2 latency on modern motherboards along with how key presses register across different switches and controllers will tell you it's absolutely all in your head. Most of the more informative data can be found in posts on these forums even.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Thu, 28 March 2013, 08:01:37
6KRO is fine, the latency is fine. Improve your reaction time and stop blaming the equipments :p
I never blame the equipment except when the equipment is to blame. A few months ago I tested the theory of "6KRO is fine", by taking the PS/2 off of my Das and playing CS competitively with it. I noticed that my K/D was significantly less, thus proving my theory.

Have a friend randomly (with a generator/coin, not just deciding on his own) set up the board in either PS/2 or USB. Then have him record your k/d with a note as to the connection method. Repeat this a couple hundred times. You will not be told which was which until the end of the study.

Then your results will be worth looking at and not totally meaningless.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: guilleguillaume on Thu, 28 March 2013, 09:10:46
So the gaming bull**** has arrived to geekhack... run while you can!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Megaweapon on Thu, 28 March 2013, 09:36:28
If you want to attract more people who are new to the 60% scene I suggest adding a section on sourcing keycaps (as related to various layouts) in one of the first three posts.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 March 2013, 10:01:01
If you want to attract more people who are new to the 60% scene I suggest adding a section on sourcing keycaps (as related to various layouts) in one of the first three posts.

The 60% form factor keyboard has been established for some time now. I think most people know about it already. In fact, I would say that, with all the major manufacturers releasing 60% boards onto the market right now, 60% is the growing trend right now.

However, the GH60 project was designed from the beginning as a DIY, choose-your-own-layout keyboard project. We will provide assembly for those who aren't comfortable building their own board, so that we don't exclude that group from participating and from their chance to own a GH60.

That said, sourcing keycaps is beyond the scope of this group buy. If there is a specific question regarding a certain choice of layout, I would be happy to answer it. Most of the layouts available would be covered by a standard base + mods + tsangan kit offered in the many keycap group buys going on now. Poker layout would not require the tsangan, and ISO would of course require an ISO kit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: funkymeeba on Thu, 28 March 2013, 10:48:11
Hm, this is looking more and more attractive to me... especially with my Leopold at home being on the fritz. The time may be right to try some new modded switches. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 28 March 2013, 11:11:46
i told some people who were not familiar of the gh60 over at reddit and they were kinda turned off with supplying their own case, usb cable and keycap set

i am fine with providing all of those things on my own. i think it makes it more fun because it's more personal
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 28 March 2013, 11:18:41
over at reddit

Well, there's your problem right there!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 28 March 2013, 12:01:06
over at reddit

Well, there's your problem right there!

I'm over at that reddit and I want this...then again I started here, so that may be why. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Chesshire on Thu, 28 March 2013, 12:31:18
I read through it and there was a lot to take in... and I am fairly new to all of this, but if I were to get the GH60 plate would that allow me to mess around and try out different layouts? I am torn between the HHKB and the Poker pure.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Thu, 28 March 2013, 12:34:35
I read through it and there was a lot to take in... and I am fairly new to all of this, but if I were to get the GH60 plate would that allow me to mess around and try out different layouts? I am torn between the HHKB and the Poker pure.
if you want to try layouts with a plate, take the universal plate, so you don't have to resolder everything if you want to swap layouts. (because of the split backspace)

also you have to get 2 case tops because of the hhkb layout.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 March 2013, 12:58:25
I read through it and there was a lot to take in... and I am fairly new to all of this, but if I were to get the GH60 plate would that allow me to mess around and try out different layouts? I am torn between the HHKB and the Poker pure.

If you want to try and mess around and try different layouts, the Universal ANSI plate will allow you to do that. However, I would recommend not using a plate until you decide which layout you want to stick with. The plate is entirely optional. There are several GH60 prototype boards out there right now with no plate installed at all.

With the Universal plates, you need to know where the switches mount to the PCB, as there is no guide for where to install them in the holes with "universal" positions.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 28 March 2013, 13:14:17
I got some questions about stabilizers a few times so I'm adding this bit of info to the OP to show the difference in stabilizers and what a "set" includes:

Stabilizers

Costar (Filco, CM, WASDkeyboards, DAS, etc)
Cherry plate-mounted (Ducky, Leopold, etc)
Cherry PCB-mounted (Poker, Korean customs, etc)

[attach=1] [attach=2] [attach=3]





Also, I just added a poll. Depending on the results, it could affect the outcome of the GH60 production PCB, plates, or other options. Voice your opinions! If you think of a good question for the poll, let me know.

>POLL HERE< (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1unUyoHLIoy08OD-eu5l3zANaIjEw2We35CHHrZlFE_4/viewform)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: osxoep on Thu, 28 March 2013, 13:42:03
Ah. I forgot to answer all the questions.

ISO layout ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: funkymeeba on Thu, 28 March 2013, 13:50:49
WASD backlighting is a neat idea, except that I use ESDF. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tlt on Thu, 28 March 2013, 15:09:58
On the first post it says "Poker and Pure (must be plates with 1.25x modifier)" way is that? Can I use a universal ISO plate with a Pure CNC case?
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 March 2013, 15:14:22
On the first post it says "Poker and Pure (must be plates with 1.25x modifier)" way is that? Can I use a universal ISO plate with a Pure CNC case?

You can install a GH60 with any of the plates (or no plate) in a Pure CNC case with no problem.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tlt on Thu, 28 March 2013, 15:18:00
Ok, great! Thanks for fast reply.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 28 March 2013, 19:21:58
going with costar i think :)
thanks for the pics WFD
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Rule16 on Thu, 28 March 2013, 23:03:10
6KRO is fine, the latency is fine. Improve your reaction time and stop blaming the equipments :p
I never blame the equipment except when the equipment is to blame. A few months ago I tested the theory of "6KRO is fine", by taking the PS/2 off of my Das and playing CS competitively with it. I noticed that my K/D was significantly less, thus proving my theory.

But 6KRO doesn't mean a maximum of 6 keys while you're playing...it means certain combinations of keys may only get you up to six. 

So how often did you run your test?  Did you do it blind?  Pretty poor "proof" of a theory...
No... My K/D was WORSE when using USB, please read the rest of the conversation when coming in late.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Rule16 on Thu, 28 March 2013, 23:07:17
6KRO is fine, the latency is fine. Improve your reaction time and stop blaming the equipments :p
I never blame the equipment except when the equipment is to blame. A few months ago I tested the theory of "6KRO is fine", by taking the PS/2 off of my Das and playing CS competitively with it. I noticed that my K/D was significantly less, thus proving my theory.

Have a friend randomly (with a generator/coin, not just deciding on his own) set up the board in either PS/2 or USB. Then have him record your k/d with a note as to the connection method. Repeat this a couple hundred times. You will not be told which was which until the end of the study.
You know a couple hundred games of competitive would take almost half right? I'm not going to do that.
Then your results will be worth looking at and not totally meaningless.
You know a couple hundred games of competitive would take almost half a year right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Thu, 28 March 2013, 23:17:09

Have a friend randomly (with a generator/coin, not just deciding on his own) set up the board in either PS/2 or USB. Then have him record your k/d with a note as to the connection method. Repeat this a couple hundred times. You will not be told which was which until the end of the study.
You know a couple hundred games of competitive would take almost half right? I'm not going to do that.
Then your results will be worth looking at and not totally meaningless.

Take... almost... half? What? Half of...

But yeah, a legit study isn't going to work with just one or two trials. You can scale it down to let's say 20 games each way and get pretty decent results. Maybe get some other test subjects so the results can be better generalized. Really anything that's not "I changed my keyboard connection and did bad so I undid it and hated it forever".

I guess there is a bit more objective and less trial heavy, but the code would be a pain. Maybe make something to stop any keypresses 6kro won't allow from reaching the game and record them. If nothing is recorded then there can't really be any issue. If anything is recorded, there is an issue.

Now it's possible it did have a negative impact on you. I would just genuinely like to see if it really did or was all in your head. The placebo effect is powerful.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Polymer on Fri, 29 March 2013, 01:07:39
6KRO is fine, the latency is fine. Improve your reaction time and stop blaming the equipments :p
I never blame the equipment except when the equipment is to blame. A few months ago I tested the theory of "6KRO is fine", by taking the PS/2 off of my Das and playing CS competitively with it. I noticed that my K/D was significantly less, thus proving my theory.

But 6KRO doesn't mean a maximum of 6 keys while you're playing...it means certain combinations of keys may only get you up to six. 

So how often did you run your test?  Did you do it blind?  Pretty poor "proof" of a theory...
No... My K/D was WORSE when using USB, please read the rest of the conversation when coming in late.

I read that part..I'm saying your test was not proof of anything..How often did you play?  Did you know what you were using beforehand? 

Playing once or a couple of times and determining it was worse is worthless...I'm not even saying your actual result is not going to end up being what you think...but if you don't see how your testing method is flawed (or you're missing some detail there) then you don't understand how stats work...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 29 March 2013, 08:04:57
Okay, I'm all for open discussion, but this is starting to go beyond anything constructive or helpful to the group buy. So let me give you my thoughts on the goals of this project.

The GH60 is not a "gaming keyboard." It was designed by keyboard enthusiasts, for keyboard enthusiasts. It does not include "full LED backlighting," or "1000 Hz polling," or "full NRKO over PS/2," or whatever the latest marketing slogan is, that's designed to persuade gamers to spend more money on features that may or may not make any difference to gaming performance, and may or may not even be present in the keyboards advertising such features.

The GH60 is a fully programmable, 60% keyboard project with the ability for custom layout configurations to suit the user. At this point, it is not even a complete keyboard, as you still have to source a case and keycaps external to this GB. If this is what you are looking for, you have found it.

If you are looking for something else, more suited to a specific purpose, I would wish you good luck, and I hope you find that elusive keyboard you are looking for.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mashby on Fri, 29 March 2013, 08:09:51
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2384675/amen-o.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 March 2013, 08:26:40
Jdcarpe laying down the law...I like it :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tym on Fri, 29 March 2013, 08:34:23
Jdcarpe laying down the law...I like it :D
[attachimg=1]
Took me hours, hope you like it!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jcrouse on Fri, 29 March 2013, 08:34:52
Hooah
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 29 March 2013, 08:58:06
^^^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Fri, 29 March 2013, 09:13:59
Why are people grouping backlighting with gaming marketing BS anyway? The number of people who could notice any of the gaming things like polling time is tiny if existent at all. I could show somebody who didn't know what a keyboard is backlighting and they'd imminently notice it. It looks nice.

I get that a lot of people don't want backlighting and that's all good. I don't even like it on all my boards. Just seems silly to have a full DIY custom keyboard and totally omit a large area of customization. You can choose your switches, your keys, your case, your plate, your layout. But if you want to choose a light screw you. Especially when not even through holes are there, so even if someone had the kind of time to hard wire it they couldn't backlight it. I mean I see no reason not to add through holes on all the keys if there's discussion of adding the holes to wasd. The hardest part of plotting out the spacing and the like is already done. It's not like you have to drill them by hand. I mean it's your buy and if you don't want to add anything I respect that, but it just seems silly when it would be so easy (Of course easy would just be through holes only, I'm sure real support would be a lot harder) to add.

Still probably gonna get one or two, but if it had backlighting I'd definitely get two or three.


If I can figure out how to space the bloody led holes in KiCAD I'll start my own buy. With blackjack and backlighting.
Going to wait till at least the end of this GB before I even look into this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 29 March 2013, 09:46:09
Blackjack?

I'm with jdcarpe re the GH60, but I have to say that if you want to do a GH60-LED group buy, you might very well get some takers.  Maybe quite a few.  Certainly the Chinese keyboard-makers do.

However, just adding the holes still leaves a huge amount of work to make a backlit keyboard.  So really what should happen is holes, traces, re-allocation of the PWM pins for LED control, and new firmware.

And again, if you (or anyone) did that, I imagine it would be a pretty successful group buy.

But if there is room for the holes (i.e. the traces are not in the way) then drilling the holes would be one of the easier parts of hard-wiring a full set of LEDs.  Place a switch, make two marks, punch the holes with a drill press and a very small bit.  Or make a template from an old backlit PCB.   Drop in LEDs.  Then run and insulate ground wires to every negative lead, run and insulate 3v wires to each positive lead, perhaps in patterns or separate circuits.  Add logic or physical switches to turn them off and on.  And you are done!

Seriously, this board doesn't have LED support, but your board might.  Will.  Go for it!  I'll buy a couple of PCBs.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CommunistWitchDr on Fri, 29 March 2013, 09:57:09
Blackjack?

Bender (Futurama) quote.

As for the holes it's more of a "If you're holeing up WASD why stop there?" thing. If there wouldn't be WASD holes it would make more sense to leave the board hole free.

I'll do some work with the pcb (looks like I'll need a whole third copper layer, ugh), and hopefully someone who can code at all can help with the firmware after the pcb is ready. Ah well, enough of this here. Ill post in making stuff once I have a bit of the pcb done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 29 March 2013, 10:02:35
i would only want a few LEDs on the number row, wasd, modifiers, etc. not the full board
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Turkishrambo on Fri, 29 March 2013, 10:06:30
fuccckk, still deciding whati want., probably going to get 4 DIY pcbs, 4 pcb cherry stab sets, hhkb plate and 1.5 ansi plate
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tym on Fri, 29 March 2013, 10:07:49
Its always nice when someone makes you an avatar to say thank you :(.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 29 March 2013, 10:19:46
Its always nice when someone makes you an avatar to say thank you :(.

Thank you!

Isn't the best thanks that the person is using it? :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tym on Fri, 29 March 2013, 10:24:52
Its always nice when someone makes you an avatar to say thank you :(.

Thank you!

Isn't the best thanks that the person is using it? :D

True :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: keymaster on Fri, 29 March 2013, 10:30:09
Okay, I'm all for open discussion, but this is starting to go beyond anything constructive or helpful to the group buy. So let me give you my thoughts on the goals of this project.

The GH60 is not a "gaming keyboard." It was designed by keyboard enthusiasts, for keyboard enthusiasts. It does not include "full LED backlighting," or "1000 Hz polling," or "full NRKO over PS/2," or whatever the latest marketing slogan is, that's designed to persuade gamers to spend more money on features that may or may not make any difference to gaming performance, and may or may not even be present in the keyboards advertising such features.

The GH60 is a fully programmable, 60% keyboard project with the ability for custom layout configurations to suit the user. At this point, it is not even a complete keyboard, as you still have to source a case and keycaps external to this GB. If this is what you are looking for, you have found it.

If you are looking for something else, more suited to a specific purpose, I would wish you good luck, and I hope you find that elusive keyboard you are looking for.

That was pretty badass..for a half-human, half-vulcan.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: clstyle on Fri, 29 March 2013, 11:05:49
WHERE CAN I GET A HOUSING FOR MY GH60....
WHERE...HOW... :confused:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 29 March 2013, 11:11:57
WHERE CAN I GET A HOUSING FOR MY GH60....
WHERE...HOW... :confused:

There is a list either in the OP here or in the IC thread's OP.

One of them will be from me.

[attach=1]
GH60++ modular case by samwisekoi.

In metal for Retro Green, Acrylic for traditionalists, and in White POM for Retro Blue.  Feet TBD.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mashby on Fri, 29 March 2013, 11:54:51
Woah. First I'm seeing of this and my-oh-my do I like!  :eek:

Do you have a thread regarding your design samwisekoi?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gortloveslinux on Fri, 29 March 2013, 12:14:07
Joined GH just for this :D! Ordered a universal ANSI plate, a board, and PCB cherry stabs. Planning to do a gh60 max keys setup (but want to be able to change my mind). Thank you guys for all the hard work!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 29 March 2013, 12:34:10
Woah. First I'm seeing of this and my-oh-my do I like!  :eek:

Do you have a thread regarding your design samwisekoi?

Thanks and not yet.  Soon.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 29 March 2013, 12:50:21
There is a list either in the OP here or in the IC thread's OP.

One of them will be from me.

(Attachment Link)
GH60++ modular case by samwisekoi.

In metal for Retro Green, Acrylic for traditionalists, and in White POM for Retro Blue.  Feet TBD.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)


Glad to hear your design is coming to fruition! I get so excited every time I see one of the new case designs. Thanks for sharing, Ron!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 29 March 2013, 12:56:13
White POM case? I may have to get two of those! Good job, Ron.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 29 March 2013, 13:18:24
I am hoping I am get a white aluminum case. I really really really hope Whitefiredragon's aluminum case will have white as an option. It's the only one I know with a HHKB top :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: funkymeeba on Fri, 29 March 2013, 13:56:59
Order form is in! Can't wait for two custom boards. :D

Now to figure out keycaps...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jmneuv on Fri, 29 March 2013, 14:46:05
A few questions still haunt me:

# Are 6.25 off-center stem cherry spacebars possible?
# How stiff is the PCB, seeing there aren't that many mounting points?
# When using a plate, where would the plate rest on; is it slightly larger than the PCB so it could rest on a rim or does the plate actually rest on the pcb through the switches?

Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 29 March 2013, 15:48:01
Yes Cherry style 6.25 space is possible, there is less flex than my Poker when typing on my prototype GH60.

Excited to see more about this white POM case. It's one of those things I have thought about pursuing for awhile but I don't have the know how to make 3D files for those kinds of things to have them made.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tradet on Fri, 29 March 2013, 16:32:33
I caved in and ordered. Exciting times! Now I need to find some nice keycaps. And a case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 30 March 2013, 05:34:34
jdcarpe, Is the poll going to affect the if WASD is going to be added to the GH60 board? Would be very cool to have that addition, does it detrimental effect on anything else on the board? I mean is there any reason for it not to be included if people who don't want the leds cant just not include them when they assemble the GH60?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: smnanthny on Sat, 30 March 2013, 10:28:40
New user just for this thread ^_^ Order in!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: funkymeeba on Sat, 30 March 2013, 10:43:10
Oh, I just realized something that might cause issues for me. What is an approximate time range that everything will be shipping? My apartment lease ends at the end of June, and while I'll be staying in the complex, I'll have a slightly different address to ship to.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Sat, 30 March 2013, 10:46:16
Oh, I just realized something that might cause issues for me. What is an approximate time range that everything will be shipping? My apartment lease ends at the end of June, and while I'll be staying in the complex, I'll have a slightly different address to ship to.

With how things are progressing seems you'll be fine updating your info at that time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jspark on Sat, 30 March 2013, 11:31:21
I have placed my order at the first day, but I still don't get the invoice for the order. Aren't you sending invoices yet, or is it only I don't get it? Because of it, I don't know how much exactly and how to pay.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Sai on Sat, 30 March 2013, 11:35:40
I have placed my order at the first day, but I still don't get the invoice for the order. Aren't you sending invoices yet, or is it only I don't get it? Because of it, I don't know how much exactly and how to pay.

As Stated in OP.

=================

 Ordering
 Deadline to submit order is Monday, 04/22/13, payment deadline is 05/13/13. You’ve been given the payment date almost 2 months in advance, so start planning your budget accordingly!

==================
Title: AW: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: 4814 on Sat, 30 March 2013, 11:42:55
Totally in for this GB! I'm just waiting for my WASD sample kit to finally decide which switches I take. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 30 March 2013, 13:47:23
Excited to see more about this white POM case. It's one of those things I have thought about pursuing for awhile but I don't have the know how to make 3D files for those kinds of things to have them made.

Sheet POM (Delrin/acetal) is expensive to buy raw as well as to have laser-cut.  But it might be awesome cool.  Worth a try.

Here are some further renderings with a Poker/GH60 PCB shown in translucent green for reference.  FYI, the PCB is supported on all four edges as well as secured by two screws on the edges.  Additional support could easily be provided via stand-offs under the central mounting holes in the PCB.

These drawings are not to scale.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 30 March 2013, 14:02:47
Ron, I can add your case to the OP as well if you'd like. How likely is it to come to fruition? If you're going to add the two side screws, you might as well add center standoffs for a plate-less compatibility. Although, these small details should probably be discussed in a dedicated thread once you make one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 30 March 2013, 14:17:07
Ron, I can add your case to the OP as well if you'd like. How likely is it to come to fruition? If you're going to add the two side screws, you might as well add center standoffs for a plate-less compatibility. Although, these small details should probably be discussed in a dedicated thread once you make one.

Not yet, thanks.  I have not worked out inter-layer fastener placement.  Re internal stand-offs, I am planning to drill and tap holes in the base, but utilize individual stand-offs so the base plate can be laser cut.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 30 March 2013, 14:38:14
Hey WFD,
if i order a hhkb layout, will the layout be a default hhkb to be progammed to what we want later? or will every gh60 come with no designations on each switch?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Kabuks on Sat, 30 March 2013, 16:11:25
Seems like people are really coming out of the woodwork for this GB. :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: reddeth on Sat, 30 March 2013, 18:08:04
I'm in for the two of these. Is there a more solid timeline for when they will actually be produced/shipped?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 30 March 2013, 19:45:49
I'd like to officially welcome all the new guys that came out of lurking and registered just for this group buy. There are quite a few of you guys.

WELCOME new dudes/dudettes


Seems like people are really coming out of the woodwork for this GB. :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 30 March 2013, 20:50:31
pink leds! pink leds for wasd! <3
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 30 March 2013, 20:51:34
pink leds! pink leds for wasd! <3

Magenta :)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img402/1927/img2659vw.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 30 March 2013, 21:19:48
pink leds! pink leds for wasd! <3

Magenta :)

Show Image
(http://imageshack.us/a/img402/1927/img2659vw.jpg)


that would be my dream right there

i asked jd for magenta before in this thread

pink/magenta on the wasd, capslock or esc would be amazing :)

i plan on using the hhkb layout, so leds on capslock wont be all too useful
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 March 2013, 21:22:24
I totally voted for the magenta LED's already :D.  Jocelyn's board convinced me since its suuuper hot
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 30 March 2013, 21:49:00
I totally voted for the magenta LED's already :D.  Jocelyn's board convinced me since its suuuper hot

Haha Thanks!!!

Question... I won't have any soldering stuffs until later summer or fall, so can I order the PCB (SMD presoldered), stabs, & Plate, pay for it, and have WFD or whoever hold onto to it for a few months?
If this isn't viable, can I choose assembly service and send my own switches or switch bottoms to WFD or whoever is doing assembly? :)
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 30 March 2013, 21:54:35
I'm sure WFD or I can hold your GH60 until you are ready for it. I suppose he will be shipping the eastern US boards, and I'll be shipping the western US. Or however it makes sense. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 30 March 2013, 22:09:32
i might be getting dark greys from another source...so can i send them to you jd? i am picking assembly service, so maybe they can just be used?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 30 March 2013, 22:12:29
I'm sure WFD or I can hold your GH60 until you are ready for it. I suppose he will be shipping the eastern US boards, and I'll be shipping the western US. Or however it makes sense. :)

Thank You. What about the second question? It may be asking too much lol.

I keep thinking I want the GH60 for nothing more than the reprogramming functionality, but hmmm I'll have to think about it a little more before I fill out the form.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 30 March 2013, 22:13:39
I keep thinking I want the GH60 for nothing more than the reprogramming functionality, but hmmm I'll have to think about it a little more before I fill out the form.

Come on, this is Wallethack...just drink the Kool Aid and get three! :P

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 30 March 2013, 22:46:18
Speaking for myself only, I don't mind assembling with parts you supply, if you want to source your own. No custom work on this scale, though. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 30 March 2013, 23:02:51
I'd be willing to do some custom stuff if parts are supplied (I don't really have too much stuff for customizing). I should be able to do these during my summer vacation.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 30 March 2013, 23:11:03
alright cool

still deciding between whites and dark greys
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: affect656 on Sun, 31 March 2013, 03:01:35
alright cool

still deciding between whites and dark greys

Get the dark greys
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 31 March 2013, 03:26:23
Thank You. What about the second question? It may be asking too much lol.

I keep thinking I want the GH60 for nothing more than the reprogramming functionality, but hmmm I'll have to think about it a little more before I fill out the form.

GBs like this are a one time thing. And also, even if you get GH60 and end up choosing the same exact layout and key mapping as the poker, at least you get a novelty board that can't be bought anywhere else.

jdcarpe and I can hold on to stuff. I'm personally holding on to a lot of people's unassembled keyboards right now, pending for parts.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: calavera on Sun, 31 March 2013, 03:58:49
Wait, this is a one time thing?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 31 March 2013, 05:12:10
Its very likely that it may be. The Phantom went for a second round, so I imagine its not all too impossible, but still likely.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: kernelpanic on Sun, 31 March 2013, 07:02:45
Is there a specific groupbuy for the GH60 keys? It's a very speficic layout, so especially the modifier-keys should be hard to get in a "normal" keylayout groupbuy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cobraj on Sun, 31 March 2013, 07:13:58
Is there a specific groupbuy for the GH60 keys? It's a very speficic layout, so especially the modifier-keys should be hard to get in a "normal" keylayout groupbuy.

Yeah there is.
Right here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 31 March 2013, 07:14:20
My Cherry/GMK groupbuy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.0) have keycaps for modifiers on every layout but MAX keys. There is also a companion buy being offered for full set of used keys if you do not have Cherry keycaps already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: kernelpanic on Sun, 31 March 2013, 07:27:06
So basically, those keys will match every layout except for the last one (GH60 max keys) from the first post? And any other base-keyset should suit aswell?

Anyway, quick anwser. Thanks :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 31 March 2013, 07:49:30
Right, it has every modifier but the 1unit backspace and 1.25 enter. They will be matching with Cherry doubleshot sets. Used Cherry doubleshot sets can be had starting at $10 to get all of the alpha numeric keys.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: kernelpanic on Sun, 31 March 2013, 08:21:53
So if I take the max keys model, I have to get those 2 caps plus a 6.25 space bar?

I'm new to this stuff and I am calculating if it is worth building the GH60 or getting a KBT Pure. The main backdraw of the GH60 is the relatively costy keycaps.

It would be really cool if there would be a GB one day which sells standard base-keycaps for cheap so newbies can start cheaper.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 31 March 2013, 12:31:15
at the moment, i only have the money for one. i really, really wish i had the money for a second one.

hopefully there will be a round two in the future..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: funinthesun69 on Sun, 31 March 2013, 15:27:41
Hello everyone.  I'm new here..I've been using my friends KBTalking, great board!  Just put my order in on this, going with the ISO 1.5x plate. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 31 March 2013, 16:18:50
So I'm guessing there has been little interest for a full backlit GH60? Count me interested for that group buy!

Blackjack?

I'm with jdcarpe re the GH60, but I have to say that if you want to do a GH60-LED group buy, you might very well get some takers.  Maybe quite a few.  Certainly the Chinese keyboard-makers do.

However, just adding the holes still leaves a huge amount of work to make a backlit keyboard.  So really what should happen is holes, traces, re-allocation of the PWM pins for LED control, and new firmware.

And again, if you (or anyone) did that, I imagine it would be a pretty successful group buy.

But if there is room for the holes (i.e. the traces are not in the way) then drilling the holes would be one of the easier parts of hard-wiring a full set of LEDs.  Place a switch, make two marks, punch the holes with a drill press and a very small bit.  Or make a template from an old backlit PCB.   Drop in LEDs.  Then run and insulate ground wires to every negative lead, run and insulate 3v wires to each positive lead, perhaps in patterns or separate circuits.  Add logic or physical switches to turn them off and on.  And you are done!

Seriously, this board doesn't have LED support, but your board might.  Will.  Go for it!  I'll buy a couple of PCBs.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: osxoep on Sun, 31 March 2013, 18:43:34
I'm interested in some juicy stats on the group buy.
What's the lastest total? :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 31 March 2013, 18:55:29
So if I take the max keys model, I have to get those 2 caps plus a 6.25 space bar?

I'm new to this stuff and I am calculating if it is worth building the GH60 or getting a KBT Pure. The main backdraw of the GH60 is the relatively costy keycaps.

It would be really cool if there would be a GB one day which sells standard base-keycaps for cheap so newbies can start cheaper.

Most of us have a few sets of stock keycaps in unused condition. I know I've sent some to deserving souls in the past.

Watch the classifieds, and you will see some for sale, often cheaply.

Good luck!

 - Ron I samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 31 March 2013, 18:57:29
211 PCB's ordered to date.
233 plates ordered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 31 March 2013, 20:29:31
That's pretty good =D. Did you guys expect those kinds of numbers or?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 31 March 2013, 20:37:38
It would be really cool if there would be a GB one day which sells standard base-keycaps for cheap so newbies can start cheaper.
Watch the classifieds! Someone (I think khaangaaroo) is selling sets for $10!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 31 March 2013, 20:47:42
It would be really cool if there would be a GB one day which sells standard base-keycaps for cheap so newbies can start cheaper.
Watch the classifieds! Someone (I think khaangaaroo) is selling sets for $10!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Key-Caps-Cherry-MY7000-HPBUS-POS-Credit-Card-Swipe-Keyboard-/271176973076?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f23683b14

Edit - Missed all the chit chat about the spacebar
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 31 March 2013, 20:50:07
I would say even better, because Cherry, but that means putting more money out for something to complete compatibility, based on your layout of choice.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 31 March 2013, 22:29:56
That's pretty good =D. Did you guys expect those kinds of numbers or?

I did. I estimated we would sell between 200-250 units.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: osxoep on Sun, 31 March 2013, 22:34:32
I did. I estimated we would sell between 200-250 units.

Hear that guys?
BUY MORE TO PROVE JDCARPE WRONG.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 31 March 2013, 22:37:59
Lol. Hopefully I underestimated. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nebo on Sun, 31 March 2013, 22:40:45
Lol. Hopefully I underestimated. :)
Added +1 to the orders. Since payment isn't due until May I can do this and the Phantom. Might not have caps right away but I haven't looked in the GBs for a while and saw I missed some blue on whites which I now need to get somehow. Hopefully there are extras. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Neal on Mon, 01 April 2013, 08:51:21
Will def be ordering in a few days/weeks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 01 April 2013, 10:04:08
im still considering my order...so many options...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: blueasjim on Mon, 01 April 2013, 10:32:26
im still considering my order...so many options...

Same, only  thing really setting me back is the casing. I want a nice Alum or something.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 01 April 2013, 10:46:40
im still considering my order...so many options...

Same, only  thing really setting me back is the casing. I want a nice Alum or something.

still deciding on layout and switches...everything else is decided
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: vatin on Mon, 01 April 2013, 11:04:22
The only thing stops me is the lack of more affordable cases.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 01 April 2013, 11:05:08
The only thing stops me is the lack of more affordable cases.

tinlong has an ic thread about $20-$30 original poker cases..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rurushu on Mon, 01 April 2013, 11:10:19
The only thing stops me is the lack of more affordable cases.

tinlong has an ic thread about $20-$30 original poker cases..
thought he already said that the GB wont be happening?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: kernelpanic on Mon, 01 April 2013, 11:10:52
It would be really cool if there would be a GB one day which sells standard base-keycaps for cheap so newbies can start cheaper.
Watch the classifieds! Someone (I think khaangaaroo) is selling sets for $10!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Key-Caps-Cherry-MY7000-HPBUS-POS-Credit-Card-Swipe-Keyboard-/271176973076?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f23683b14

Edit - Missed all the chit chat about the spacebar

Problem is, all these are used. Personally I think this is a situation where used buying is just gross, a keyboard remains a thing you are putting your hands on every day.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 01 April 2013, 11:18:33
Problem is, all these are used. Personally I think this is a situation where used buying is just gross, a keyboard remains a thing you are putting your hands on every day.

You can clean keycaps.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: funkymeeba on Mon, 01 April 2013, 11:32:36
If anyone else is interested, I'm eventually going to drop in an order with SP for blank PBT (ABS spacebar) sphericals to fit the ANSI 1.5 and winkeyless layouts. It will be black and yellow caps. Current plan is to put together ~25 sets. I can put an image together to show the theme I'm going for with this, but it will have to wait until after work.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: guilleguillaume on Mon, 01 April 2013, 11:56:33
It would be really cool if there would be a GB one day which sells standard base-keycaps for cheap so newbies can start cheaper.
Watch the classifieds! Someone (I think khaangaaroo) is selling sets for $10!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Key-Caps-Cherry-MY7000-HPBUS-POS-Credit-Card-Swipe-Keyboard-/271176973076?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f23683b14

Edit - Missed all the chit chat about the spacebar

Problem is, all these are used. Personally I think this is a situation where used buying is just gross, a keyboard remains a thing you are putting your hands on every day.
You need to to know everyone clean the keycaps before putting them in their keyboards and using them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: thoere on Mon, 01 April 2013, 12:25:56
How long until they're shipping?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 April 2013, 12:32:24
I'll be placing my order after the Chicago meet. I want to verify my switch selection there.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 01 April 2013, 12:34:57
The only thing stops me is the lack of more affordable cases.

tinlong has an ic thread about $20-$30 original poker cases..
thought he already said that the GB wont be happening?

My bad I thought it was still going. I might have one for sale if anyone is interested
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 01 April 2013, 13:10:20
I would like to be able to use either cherry or costar spacebars/capslocks without modding the board or keycaps
Does one of these layouts meet that requirements with ansi layouts?

Is that even possible?

edit: basically I would like to be able to have standard layout like a filco layout but be able to use either spacebars/capslocks
I have ordered http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.0 and http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41439.0 and want to make sure they will fit with my FPS Counter-Strick V3.0 Kit from feng http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35967.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 01 April 2013, 13:13:14
should i go hhkb layout? or winkeyless? hmm..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 01 April 2013, 13:31:38
How long until they're shipping?

Don't expect an answer anytime soon

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 April 2013, 15:14:17
How long until they're shipping?


The real answer is that we just don't know for sure. There are too many variables. I have said that I hope we can get these shipped out to people by the end of the summer, but I may be too optomistic.


Don't expect an answer anytime soon

Thanks for your helpful comment!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Broadmonkey on Mon, 01 April 2013, 15:18:44
should i go hhkb layout? or winkeyless? hmm..

Not to be an ass or anything, but this is the third post on this page were you just state that you don't know what to get. If you really don't know what to get and need advice or have some questions, then there really is a lot of advice/info to get around the forum or you could create a thread?
I really hope you don't take this as a negative comment.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 01 April 2013, 15:23:14

Thanks for your helpful comment!

If only someone had replied to me :)

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg830674#msg830674
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 April 2013, 15:25:03

Thanks for your helpful comment!

If only someone had replied to me :)

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg830674#msg830674

Reply here, just below your post: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg830695#msg830695
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 01 April 2013, 15:27:38

Thanks for your helpful comment!

If only someone had replied to me :)

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg830674#msg830674

Reply here, just below your post: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg830695#msg830695

I didn't think he was working on the project. Some clarification would be nice, especially in the original post.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:09:48
should i go hhkb layout? or winkeyless? hmm..

Not to be an ass or anything, but this is the third post on this page were you just state that you don't know what to get. If you really don't know what to get and need advice or have some questions, then there really is a lot of advice/info to get around the forum or you could create a thread?
I really hope you don't take this as a negative comment.

dat negative comment

just kidding. sorry i am posting so much. i am confused and excited at the same time. will stop posting in this thread  :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:22:20

Thanks for your helpful comment!

If only someone had replied to me :)

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg830674#msg830674

Reply here, just below your post: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg830695#msg830695

I didn't think he was working on the project. Some clarification would be nice, especially in the original post.

*Seriously?*  You didn't think komar was working on the project?  You know, the guy who's screenname is the 9th word in the OP. How much more clear can it be?

should i go hhkb layout? or winkeyless? hmm..

Not to be an ass or anything, but this is the third post on this page were you just state that you don't know what to get. If you really don't know what to get and need advice or have some questions, then there really is a lot of advice/info to get around the forum or you could create a thread?
I really hope you don't take this as a negative comment.

dat negative comment

just kidding. sorry i am posting so much. i am confused and excited at the same time. will stop posting in this thread  :/

To be fair, I don't see why he thinks that comments about this keyboard shouldn't be in this thread, but to each his own.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:23:23
thanks tj

i thought i was in the right place  :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:29:43

*Seriously?*  You didn't think komar was working on the project?  You know, the guy who's screenname is the 9th word in the OP. How much more clear can it be?

The release date should be more clear, as in written in the original post. Is that too much to ask? I won't be the first or last to stumble upon this thread to find this information.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: T0ken on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:33:20
Hello, another former lurker here...

For me too, the casing is my only concern. Can anyone comment on the practicality of going case-less? It appears that on the bottom side of the PCB is the microcontroller, SMD components, and through hole pins...it doesn't seem like a stable typing surface to me...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:34:19

*Seriously?*  You didn't think komar was working on the project?  You know, the guy who's screenname is the 9th word in the OP. How much more clear can it be?

The release date should be more clear, as in written in the original post. Is that too much to ask? I won't be the first or last to stumble upon this thread to find this information.

Did it ever occur to you that, "Gee, I guess they don't know exactly how long it will take to manufacture an unknown number of custom PCBs?"

Why put up something that isn't set in stone?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:36:13
Especially being that orders aren't even done yet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:38:28
Hello, another former lurker here...

For me too, the casing is my only concern. Can anyone comment on the practicality of going case-less? It appears that on the bottom side of the PCB is the microcontroller, SMD components, and through hole pins...it doesn't seem like a stable typing surface to me...

There really isn't any practicality in it.  You should at least have some kind of plate with standoffs for the pcb to sit on.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:39:17
WFD, I was wondering if you could add your lovely post about stabilizers (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg836355#msg836355) to the OP to help those who are new to DIY boards. Thanks in advance :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:40:54

*Seriously?*  You didn't think komar was working on the project?  You know, the guy who's screenname is the 9th word in the OP. How much more clear can it be?

The release date should be more clear, as in written in the original post. Is that too much to ask? I won't be the first or last to stumble upon this thread to find this information.

Did it ever occur to you that, "Gee, I guess they don't know exactly how long it will take to manufacture an unknown number of custom PCBs?"

Why put up something that isn't set in stone?

Because one would be spending hundreds of dollars? I just asked a simple question. A simple answer in the original post such as this would have been sufficient: "No release date atm" or "Release date is at least 6 months away".
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:46:46

*Seriously?*  You didn't think komar was working on the project?  You know, the guy who's screenname is the 9th word in the OP. How much more clear can it be?

The release date should be more clear, as in written in the original post. Is that too much to ask? I won't be the first or last to stumble upon this thread to find this information.

Did it ever occur to you that, "Gee, I guess they don't know exactly how long it will take to manufacture an unknown number of custom PCBs?"

Why put up something that isn't set in stone?

Because one would be spending hundreds of dollars? I just asked a simple question. A simple answer in the original post such as this would have been sufficient: "No release date atm" or "Release date is at least 6 months away".

How was komar's simple answer right after your question not good enough, then? Or does it not count because it wasn't in the OP?

And really, why should the OP be manipulated to your tastes considering you stopped reading after 8 words to not know that komar was a part of the group designing it? 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 01 April 2013, 20:49:52

*Seriously?*  You didn't think komar was working on the project?  You know, the guy who's screenname is the 9th word in the OP. How much more clear can it be?

The release date should be more clear, as in written in the original post. Is that too much to ask? I won't be the first or last to stumble upon this thread to find this information.

I'll add it to the OP. I didn't put it before because there are too many variables like jdcarpe said. The larger the GB, the longer lead time and more chance for delays. Coordination for several parts combined into one GB requires communication and collaboration. Things that we are NOT in control of that could delay things are order cancellations/changes, waiting for late payment, or manufacturer delays. There are several manufactures and sources required to get all the parts, so that adds even more variables. At the time I wrote the OP, there is no way I can predict these things, and they're also dependent on how many orders received at the end. Since payment deadline is mid May, my own estimate is mid June - late September for the ETA of all parts.

If you've participated in many GBs, you'll notice that many of them have unforseen delays that are out of the organizers' control. Comparing it to the Phantom GB that is about the same magnitude and has similar parts, it took about a year to complete. 3-6 months from the open of the GB until you get  your package is reasonable, assuming there won't be any major problems.


Hello, another former lurker here...

For me too, the casing is my only concern. Can anyone comment on the practicality of going case-less? It appears that on the bottom side of the PCB is the microcontroller, SMD components, and through hole pins...it doesn't seem like a stable typing surface to me...

Probably not the best idea, although it would work if you put it on something non-conductive. Make your own cardboard case, but that'll just be a more fragile solution to any dedicated 60% case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: T0ken on Mon, 01 April 2013, 21:17:48
Thanks for the replies guys. As tjcaustin mentioned, I think a standoff separating the PCB from some kind of flat plate seems like a good idea, if no dedicated case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 April 2013, 21:19:38
I guess you could always stick some rubber feet to the bottom of the PCB, or use anti-static mat to place it on. If you do that, I better see you typing on it with no keycaps, though. You go Korean kung-fu, you go all the way. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: aggiejy on Mon, 01 April 2013, 21:21:55
I guess you could always stick some rubber feet to the bottom of the PCB, or use anti-static mat to place it on. If you do that, I better see you typing on it with no keycaps, though. You go Korean kung-fu, you go all the way. :D

Who needs switches?  Just put some metal on your finger tips and type on the PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 01 April 2013, 21:23:38

I'll add it to the OP. I didn't put it before because there are too many variables like jdcarpe said. The larger the GB, the longer lead time and more chance for delays. Coordination for several parts combined into one GB requires communication and collaboration. Things that we are NOT in control of that could delay things are order cancellations/changes, waiting for late payment, or manufacturer delays. There are several manufactures and sources required to get all the parts, so that adds even more variables. At the time I wrote the OP, there is no way I can predict these things, and they're also dependent on how many orders received at the end. Since payment deadline is mid May, my own estimate is mid June - late September for the ETA of all parts.

If you've participated in many GBs, you'll notice that many of them have unforseen delays that are out of the organizers' control. Comparing it to the Phantom GB that is about the same magnitude and has similar parts, it took about a year to complete. 3-6 months from the open of the GB until you get  your package is reasonable, assuming there won't be any major problems.

Thanks for the reply, WFD. You've answered all my questions. This clarifies a lot of things and would definitely be informative if added to the OP. Many users on here may not have participated in a GB like this before. It allows us to know what to expect, instead of just blindly going into it.

How was komar's simple answer right after your question not good enough, then? Or does it not count because it wasn't in the OP?

And really, why should the OP be manipulated to your tastes considering you stopped reading after 8 words to not know that komar was a part of the group designing it? 

I'm not sure what your problem is but just relax. If you don't want to help in answering a question, you don't have to.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 01 April 2013, 21:24:25
I guess you could always stick some rubber feet to the bottom of the PCB, or use anti-static mat to place it on. If you do that, I better see you typing on it with no keycaps, though. You go Korean kung-fu, you go all the way. :D

Who needs switches?  Just put some metal on your finger tips and type on the PCB.

Who needs PCBs, just wire a controller into your brain.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: agor on Tue, 02 April 2013, 04:22:42
Could you tell me if my order fine as it is? And can you send it to me via pm please, need to review :-)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jmneuv on Tue, 02 April 2013, 05:38:18
Could someone please provide me with the outer measurements of the PCB as well as the plate.
Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Luke on Tue, 02 April 2013, 06:44:04
Could someone please provide me with the outer measurements of the PCB as well as the plate.
Thanks.

+1 if possible :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 02 April 2013, 09:56:29
Is this "Wedge" case design interesting to anyone?  (Non-flat is hard in laser-cut plastic, but this could be done.)

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jmneuv on Tue, 02 April 2013, 10:22:08
I like the flat one with the "foot-bar" better;
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: thoere on Tue, 02 April 2013, 11:09:33
I just need a general time period to expect when these will ship. Days? Weeks? Months? I really want one but I'm not sure if I should buy one now because I have no other mechanical keyboard to use while waiting for the gh60... just sold my Blackwidow.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Kabuks on Tue, 02 April 2013, 11:13:53
I just need a general time period to expect when these will ship. Days? Weeks? Months? I really want one but I'm not sure if I should buy one now because I have no other mechanical keyboard to use while waiting for the gh60... just sold my Blackwidow.

It has already been posted that it will be around September at the earliest.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 02 April 2013, 11:15:35
I just need a general time period to expect when these will ship. Days? Weeks? Months? I really want one but I'm not sure if I should buy one now because I have no other mechanical keyboard to use while waiting for the gh60... just sold my Blackwidow.

I think your question was answered on this very page.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 02 April 2013, 11:44:45
I like the flat one with the "foot-bar" better;

Same here.  Looks more sanitary/clean.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 02 April 2013, 11:52:48
I like the flat one with the "foot-bar" better;

Same here.  Looks more sanitary/clean.
+1 I may just have to go the full samwisekoi on this keyboard lol.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 02 April 2013, 12:11:56
I like the flat one with the "foot-bar" better;
i would rather have a acrylic wedge on the bottom to make a flat base (like the 356mini) because it looks imho much cleaner.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 02 April 2013, 12:34:18
I am going with a lego case
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251

when I actually receive the gh60 I may glue the lego's together and integrate standoffs to screw the board down.
 ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 02 April 2013, 13:01:23
I like the flat one with the "foot-bar" better;
i would rather have a acrylic wedge on the bottom to make a flat base (like the 356mini) because it looks imho much cleaner.

Yes.  How to make those from laser-cut Acrylic, POM or aluminum is the question.

Thanks for everyone's input.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 02 April 2013, 13:14:04
I am going with a lego case
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251

when I actually receive the gh60 I may glue the lego's together and integrate standoffs to screw the board down.
 ;D

Oh my, I think I'll have to make a Lego case as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 02 April 2013, 13:24:40
I like the flat one with the "foot-bar" better;
i would rather have a acrylic wedge on the bottom to make a flat base (like the 356mini) because it looks imho much cleaner.

Yes.  How to make those from laser-cut Acrylic, POM or aluminum is the question.

Thanks for everyone's input.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)


i don't think that there is a legit way to do that (you could always mcgyver stuff ofc)
so milling would be the one option but you would lose the other half of the block....

or cheaper method would be a wood wedge which could be milled for cheaper (i think)
so as long as there are 2 holes for mounting a bar in the back these could also be used for a "custom" wood wedge.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: numerus on Tue, 02 April 2013, 14:09:50
I order it too.
but still confusing about the choise of Case :rolleyes:
will really like one in Carbonfiber or black mat lack.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dsan on Tue, 02 April 2013, 14:36:13
The wait time seems really reasonable to me,don't forget that you'll also get switches,stabilizers,a plate and a pcb.I'll be placing my order really soon,too :)
Is it possible to order different type of switches?For example 63 blues,1 red,1 brown,1 clear and so on?Thank you!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Tue, 02 April 2013, 15:14:03
I like the flat one with the "foot-bar" better;
i would rather have a acrylic wedge on the bottom to make a flat base (like the 356mini) because it looks imho much cleaner.

Yes.  How to make those from laser-cut Acrylic, POM or aluminum is the question.

Thanks for everyone's input.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)

I would definietly consider this over WFD60 if it looked like the 356mini.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: T0ken on Tue, 02 April 2013, 21:02:42
Is this "Wedge" case design interesting to anyone?  (Non-flat is hard in laser-cut plastic, but this could be done.)

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)



It looks good to me... I'm interested. My options for cases right are cardboard or lego so I'm very interested in any alternatives.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rknize on Tue, 02 April 2013, 21:15:13
Fiberglass/carbon fiber and resin?  Clay?  Great Stuff?  ^_^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: hoasican2004 on Wed, 03 April 2013, 02:59:51
Help me, I need detail of plate (POKER keyboard) , who can send  for me file ( CAD, Adobe illustrator, PDF…. )??? I’m thanks so so so much >”<
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: eon on Wed, 03 April 2013, 05:24:22
One question about the HHKB ANSI plate:
- is it possible to setup the bottom row like that: 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: realex on Wed, 03 April 2013, 05:51:11
i have access to high quality cnc milling machines as i am working in metal industry, but as this isn't usually what i do (i am more from the electrical department) i am not that experienced with cad or whatever is used to create the feed for those machines. maybe someone with a little more insight can hook me up with a technical drawing or/and more info while i try and figure out in what quantities i could get some cases done.

i probably could also have the cases anodized there afterwards.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Wed, 03 April 2013, 06:23:24
i have access to high quality cnc milling machines as i am working in metal industry, but as this isn't usually what i do (i am more from the electrical department) i am not that experienced with cad or whatever is used to create the feed for those machines. maybe someone with a little more insight can hook me up with a technical drawing or/and more info while i try and figure out in what quantities i could get some cases done.

i probably could also have the cases anodized there afterwards.
I wish i had experience with this as it would be really nice to get a case from you since you are located in Europe.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 April 2013, 06:26:47
One question about the HHKB ANSI plate:
- is it possible to setup the bottom row like that: 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 ?

Yes, that is exactly how the plate is set up. If you want to have the HHKB bottom row, you simply don't install switches in the outside 1.5 positions.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jcrouse on Wed, 03 April 2013, 08:14:49
One question about the HHKB ANSI plate:
- is it possible to setup the bottom row like that: 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 ?

Yes, that is exactly how the plate is set up. If you want to have the HHKB bottom row, you simply don't install switches in the outside 1.5 positions.

JDC ... Isn't the HHKB a 6.25 spacebar?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 03 April 2013, 08:16:46
The actual HHKB does, but this layout has a 7x spacebar.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jcrouse on Wed, 03 April 2013, 08:20:46
The actual HHKB does, but this layout has a 7x spacebar.

It is **** like that that just adds confusion. Along with the nice pictures not aligning with the naming of the plstes and order form. I haven't ordered for 3 weeks because I still am not sure what is what.

John
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 03 April 2013, 08:24:31
I think pictures of the plates instead of the layouts, and a list of what each plate can do layout wise, with the pictures of the layouts under them in a smaller size (width=200) or something could clear the confusion up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 03 April 2013, 08:29:59
Someone give me pictures of the plates and I'll make it all better. You can copy and paste it into the OP or point people to my post.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 03 April 2013, 08:41:02
Updated my order to add switches and assembly services.  Whites on one board, Grays on the other.  Poker layout for both.

 ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pasph on Wed, 03 April 2013, 08:41:37
i have access to high quality cnc milling machines as i am working in metal industry, but as this isn't usually what i do (i am more from the electrical department) i am not that experienced with cad or whatever is used to create the feed for those machines. maybe someone with a little more insight can hook me up with a technical drawing or/and more info while i try and figure out in what quantities i could get some cases done.

i probably could also have the cases anodized there afterwards.
I wish i had experience with this as it would be really nice to get a case from you since you are located in Europe.

+1
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tricheboars on Wed, 03 April 2013, 09:41:25
i submitted my order day 1 but i dont think i responded to the switch order section properly.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 April 2013, 09:50:09
i submitted my order day 1 but i dont think i responded to the switch order section properly.

Sent you a PM about your order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Broadmonkey on Wed, 03 April 2013, 10:07:24
One question about the HHKB ANSI plate:
- is it possible to setup the bottom row like that: 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 ?

Yes, that is exactly how the plate is set up. If you want to have the HHKB bottom row, you simply don't install switches in the outside 1.5 positions.

JDC ... Isn't the HHKB a 6.25 spacebar?

It's 6 in size not 6.25, no?
It goes from 0.75 on the X to 0.75 on the ,< key.

Something like this would give the board true HHKB layout while giving the opportunity to add three more keys.
[attach=1]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 April 2013, 10:19:31
One question about the HHKB ANSI plate:
- is it possible to setup the bottom row like that: 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 ?

Yes, that is exactly how the plate is set up. If you want to have the HHKB bottom row, you simply don't install switches in the outside 1.5 positions.

JDC ... Isn't the HHKB a 6.25 spacebar?

It's 6 in size not 6.25, no?
It goes from 0.75 on the X to 0.75 on the ,< key.

Something like this would give the board true HHKB layout while giving the opportunity to add three more keys.
(Attachment Link)

Actually, that layout is supported by the PCB. The 6x spacebar center mount is offset, and matches with the 7x spacebar center mount position. I'm not sure about stabilizer holes, though. It would be up to the plate and case designer (aka WFD) to decide if he wants to change the case and plate design to the "true" HHKB layout, or stick with the 7x spacebar design as it currently stands.

Sorry, but I don't think we will be adding any more layout options at this late date. The 7x spacebar seems more appealing anyhow, as they are more commonly found (e.g. in tsangan kits), and it fixes a problem with the HHKB, by creating a balanced symmetry on the bottom row. PFU Fujitsu doesn't have to worry about spacebar compatibility, since you don't have many options for replacing the keycaps, anyway.

Also, by using the 7x spacebar in that configuration, instead of a 6x, it matches the 1.5x (and WKL) layout.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Broadmonkey on Wed, 03 April 2013, 10:32:09
oh, I wasn't making a request about a new plate as I don't think there would be a lot of backup, especially since it uses 6x spacebar. Just that one could create it by using a universal plate ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 03 April 2013, 11:36:36
is it possible with this kit to have off-centered capslock and spacebar?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 April 2013, 11:48:38
is it possible with this kit to have off-centered capslock and spacebar?

Yes, the PCB supports both of those.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: agor on Wed, 03 April 2013, 16:03:36
i submitted my order day 1 but i dont think i responded to the switch order section properly.

Sent you a PM about your order.
Could you do this for me aswell, please?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 April 2013, 16:10:30
i submitted my order day 1 but i dont think i responded to the switch order section properly.

Sent you a PM about your order.
Could you do this for me aswell, please?

Done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gropingmantis on Wed, 03 April 2013, 17:43:26
Is there a way of getting a PM just to verify that my order changed correctly? I would so hate to miss out on ths
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 April 2013, 17:49:45
Is there a way of getting a PM just to verify that my order changed correctly? I would so hate to miss out on ths

PM sent
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: miscsubbin on Wed, 03 April 2013, 17:58:26
Anyone know where I could get a low profile case? I've looked at the ones in the OP, but they're not quite what I'm looking for. Something similar to this: (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8391/8538658431_ef131e80f5_z.jpg)

I'll post somewhere else if this is the incorrect place.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: sth on Wed, 03 April 2013, 18:11:40
well i suppose i should get in on this to use up the rest of my vintage blacks. ordered :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: hankz on Wed, 03 April 2013, 20:12:56
I change my order and I want to know my order is changed to right quantity or not.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 April 2013, 20:43:07
Anyone know where I could get a low profile case? I've looked at the ones in the OP, but they're not quite what I'm looking for. Something similar to this:
Show Image
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8391/8538658431_ef131e80f5_z.jpg)


I'll post somewhere else if this is the incorrect place.

Ask mashby since those are his boards?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: T0ken on Wed, 03 April 2013, 20:48:52
Is shipping to Canada available? I'm fine with increased shipping cost and taxes etc, but I know that shipping  an item to Canada from both USA or EU is a pain. I realized I might as well ask here as I'm about to place my order...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 03 April 2013, 20:50:41
Anyone know where I could get a low profile case? I've looked at the ones in the OP, but they're not quite what I'm looking for. Something similar to this:

I'll post somewhere else if this is the incorrect place.

There were only ~30 of them from a GB and I'm afraid they're all gone.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 03 April 2013, 21:03:46
Is shipping to Canada available? I'm fine with increased shipping cost and taxes etc, but I know that shipping  an item to Canada from both USA or EU is a pain. I realized I might as well ask here as I'm about to place my order...

The GH60 has no boundaries my fellow Canadian!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: T0ken on Wed, 03 April 2013, 21:36:47
Is shipping to Canada available? I'm fine with increased shipping cost and taxes etc, but I know that shipping  an item to Canada from both USA or EU is a pain. I realized I might as well ask here as I'm about to place my order...

The GH60 has no boundaries my fellow Canadian!

Awesome, thanks for the reply! Order placed, eh  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 04 April 2013, 05:42:20
The actual HHKB does, but this layout has a 7x spacebar.

It is **** like that that just adds confusion. Along with the nice pictures not aligning with the naming of the plstes and order form. I haven't ordered for 3 weeks because I still am not sure what is what.

John

I'll add actual plate pics next to the layouts with keycaps. This was initially done because I would think it's harder for newbs to visualize the keycap size based on a  size 1x switch hole and an unknown space in between. It's easier to see the layout with the actual keycap size at the corresponding positions. I'll notify again when I've added the plate pics.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jcrouse on Thu, 04 April 2013, 06:04:15
The actual HHKB does, but this layout has a 7x spacebar.

It is **** like that that just adds confusion. Along with the nice pictures not aligning with the naming of the plstes and order form. I haven't ordered for 3 weeks because I still am not sure what is what.

John

I'll add actual plate pics next to the layouts with keycaps. This was initially done because I would think it's harder for newbs to visualize the keycap size based on a  size 1x switch hole and an unknown space in between. It's easier to see the layout with the actual keycap size at the corresponding positions. I'll notify again when I've added the plate pics.
WFD ... I completely agree with your reasoning. Looking at the keyboard pics is WAY better than pics of the plates.

Maybe use the name of the plate as a header, EXACTLY the way it is named on the order form and then show a pic of all the different ways it could be setup or at least the majority of them I realize the generic ANSI and ISO plates could be configured quite a few different ways. Also, naming is important to avoid confusion. I just started using a HHKB at work this week and wanted the "true" HHKB layout, only to find out it really is different. I understand the reasons it is so, and again agree, but the naming led me to believe it was exactly the same.

Good work on this to both you and JDC. Your efforts are goung to be enjoyed, and hopefully appreciated, by many.

John
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 04 April 2013, 07:21:36
The actual HHKB does, but this layout has a 7x spacebar.

It is **** like that that just adds confusion. Along with the nice pictures not aligning with the naming of the plstes and order form. I haven't ordered for 3 weeks because I still am not sure what is what.

John

I'll add actual plate pics next to the layouts with keycaps. This was initially done because I would think it's harder for newbs to visualize the keycap size based on a  size 1x switch hole and an unknown space in between. It's easier to see the layout with the actual keycap size at the corresponding positions. I'll notify again when I've added the plate pics.
WFD ... I completely agree with your reasoning. Looking at the keyboard pics is WAY better than pics of the plates.

Maybe use the name of the plate as a header, EXACTLY the way it is named on the order form and then show a pic of all the different ways it could be setup or at least the majority of them I realize the generic ANSI and ISO plates could be configured quite a few different ways. Also, naming is important to avoid confusion. I just started using a HHKB at work this week and wanted the "true" HHKB layout, only to find out it really is different. I understand the reasons it is so, and again agree, but the naming led me to believe it was exactly the same.

Good work on this to both you and JDC. Your efforts are goung to be enjoyed, and hopefully appreciated, by many.

John
:/ that's what I said... and I disagree. To me, looking at the plate is easier. I can see the placement of the switches better.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 04 April 2013, 17:34:48
Hey,

What's the absolute minimum I need to get from the GB so that I can complete the keyboard later on? I'm a little tight on cash, but don't want to miss this amazing opportunity. I'm not good with a solder, really. I think I need the soldered PCB, the plate, and stabilizers?

As a side note. I've done a little soldering before, but I'm certainly not very good with it. Can I learn to solder switches easily, or should I splurge for switches and assembly?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Thu, 04 April 2013, 17:48:41
Hey,

What's the absolute minimum I need to get from the GB so that I can complete the keyboard later on? I'm a little tight on cash, but don't want to miss this amazing opportunity. I'm not good with a solder, really. I think I need the soldered PCB, the plate, and stabilizers?

As a side note. I've done a little soldering before, but I'm certainly not very good with it. Can I learn to solder switches easily, or should I splurge for switches and assembly?

you need for a functioning gh60 at least: soldered pcb, pcb mount switches, pcb mount stabilizers (cherry only), keycaps, and a usb cable. (plate is optional)

soldering is pretty easy but if you are not confident in your skills, you are better off spending $25 more.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jcrouse on Thu, 04 April 2013, 17:55:37
/ that's what I said... and I disagree. To me, looking at the plate is easier. I can see the placement of the switches better.

I would say not for the masses but that is just my opinion. I was an Autocad designer for over a decade. Personally, I have no problem with the pics of the plates but I suspect many others would find it easier to look at a pic of a kbd.

John
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: dndlmx on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:03:14
This looks like a really fun project, I'd love to buy a kit.

But I'm not sure about the case. I don't want to cannibalize a poker/pure, buy an expensive aluminum case, or make one myself. Will there be a community case to go with this, eventually? Something cheap, plastic maybe?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:12:30
Hey,

What's the absolute minimum I need to get from the GB so that I can complete the keyboard later on? I'm a little tight on cash, but don't want to miss this amazing opportunity. I'm not good with a solder, really. I think I need the soldered PCB, the plate, and stabilizers?

As a side note. I've done a little soldering before, but I'm certainly not very good with it. Can I learn to solder switches easily, or should I splurge for switches and assembly?

you need for a functioning gh60 at least: soldered pcb, pcb mount switches, pcb mount stabilizers (cherry only), keycaps, and a usb cable. (plate is optional)

soldering is pretty easy but if you are not confident in your skills, you are better off spending $25 more.

I have never soldered anything on a keyboard, but have taken the solder iron to the innards of a laptop before. It didn't explode or burn up in my face  ;D I'm less confident in being able to bring up enough money to pay for switches and assembly before the deadline, so I'll have to learn. I don't want to order stuff and end up unable to pay for it before the deadline.

I'm picking this up as a long term project, to build my ideal keyboard. I'll take my time with the case, caps, and cable. Pick them out after extended research, and buy them as I get the money for it. Shipping to EU is a *****.

By the way. To whoever is handling payment for this. Do you accept bitcoin?
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:18:28
The minimum I would suggest is the pre-soldered PCB. You can likely buy plates, switches, stabilizers, case, keycaps, USB cable all later. But you will want at least a PCB so you don't miss out now.

As for payment, I'm pretty sure TJ is accepting Paypal only.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Noko on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:19:36
I haven't soldered in about 15 years but I figured it'll be a lot more rewarding to do it myself.  Here's hoping I don't fry anything!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:20:25
I posted this answer to someone else back there somewhere, but depending on the layout you want, you may also want a plate at this moment too. Unless you're looking for a Poker layout, I'm of the feeling that plates won't be seen so often.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:22:21
What's the absolute minimum I need to get from the GB so that I can complete the keyboard later on? I'm a little tight on cash, but don't want to miss this amazing opportunity. I'm not good with a solder, really. I think I need the soldered PCB, the plate, and stabilizers?

Do you accept bitcoin?

Absolute minimum you'll need is a PCB and recommended to get a plate with it. These two things are pretty much a one time offer, while switches, stabilizers, case, cable, and keycaps will be the same (for the most part) no matter when you get it. These things you can source yourself later.

Don't ask for bitcoin payment, this isn't the forum for that. During my brief experimentation with bitcoins, I realized the nature of them attracts all kinds of scumbags.



But I'm not sure about the case. I don't want to cannibalize a poker/pure, buy an expensive aluminum case, or make one myself. Will there be a community case to go with this, eventually? Something cheap, plastic maybe?

I'm still in the early processes of trying to get some plastic cases 3D printed. That won't be in this GB though, too much complications and time consuming if we try to integrate it at this point.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:30:53
What's the absolute minimum I need to get from the GB so that I can complete the keyboard later on? I'm a little tight on cash, but don't want to miss this amazing opportunity. I'm not good with a solder, really. I think I need the soldered PCB, the plate, and stabilizers?

Do you accept bitcoin?

Absolute minimum you'll need is a PCB and recommended to get a plate with it. These two things are pretty much a one time offer, while switches, stabilizers, case, cable, and keycaps will be the same (for the most part) no matter when you get it. These things you can source yourself later.

I think that's what I'll do. Thanks.

Does anyone, by any chance, know sources of these in Europe?

Don't ask for bitcoin payment, this isn't the forum for that. During my brief experimentation with bitcoins, I realized the nature of them attracts all kinds of scumbags.

I'm sorry, I did not intend to come off as a... scumbag? Bitcoin is pretty handy for international fund transfer, so I thought I'd ask. I can use paypal too, so it's okay.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:55:23
lol I didn't specifically say you were a scumbag. There are a lot of decent people that believe and use bitcoins, but the nature of them attract tons of scammers. There's actually a subforum within the bitcoin forum specifically to make threads if you've been scammed. All confirmed scammers are still free to use the forum, except with a scammer tag instead of being banned. This is just a bit ridiculous. Anyways don't want to go too far off topic.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: dndlmx on Thu, 04 April 2013, 19:12:03
But I'm not sure about the case. I don't want to cannibalize a poker/pure, buy an expensive aluminum case, or make one myself. Will there be a community case to go with this, eventually? Something cheap, plastic maybe?

I'm still in the early processes of trying to get some plastic cases 3D printed. That won't be in this GB though, too much complications and time consuming if we try to integrate it at this point.

Perhaps by "Rev. B" or the second GB?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: justin one on Thu, 04 April 2013, 19:16:23
I had to cancel my order. I'm sorry I really wish I could do it but just can't right now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 04 April 2013, 19:30:38
After some quick investigation, I've decided to buy the damn thing assembled with switches and stabilizers. I'll just have to find the money somehow.

Not afraid of being able or not to solder, but the equipment I'll have to buy is far more expensive than I can justify.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 04 April 2013, 20:28:53
I hope I'm not going too far off topic. Just let me know if I should split into a thread of my own. I'm not very familiar with the politics of this forum. Please forgive the stupid questions  :-[

I'd like to get some input before I submit my order; partially, because I'm not as knowledgeable as I'd like to pretend, and also because I don't want to waste anyone's time with an incorrect order. Please tell me what you think.

Bearing in mind that I'd like to order an assembled poker layout with switches, stabilizers, and a plate:

Is there anything I should consider that I missed?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 04 April 2013, 20:31:59
^Yes to everything except the stabilizers. They have different feelings to them, but I think you'll be happy with the Costars.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mbreslin on Thu, 04 April 2013, 20:36:11
I'd be happy to pay an extra 25$ assembly fee (plus the cost to order some leds) if you would solder in leds for mine?

1. I could be dead last if you want to deal with all the easy orders first
2. If you're too busy with all the other stuff and can't do it no worries!  ;D

(cross posted from the ic thread)

Also: I decided I want a second one do I just order again or do you/jd modify the order as it stands?

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 04 April 2013, 20:46:39
  • The universal ANSI and the Poker plate should both fit. I think I'll get the universal plate, in case I ever buy a solder iron and decide to get an extra key somewhere.
  • I do not believe there is much of a difference between stabilizers, so I'll just stick to my guns and get plate mounted costars.

Is there anything I should consider that I missed?

Per the second post, these two are not compatible. The universal plate is compatible with Cherry PCB mounted stabilizers only.

Edit: The costars should work with the Poker plate though
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 04 April 2013, 20:49:58
^Yes to everything except the stabilizers. They have different feelings to them, but I think you'll be happy with the Costars.

Aren't they non-standard stabilizer bar length though?  Where would you find the right size stabilizer?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 04 April 2013, 20:54:12
That's right, whiskeytango. I forgot about that!

nubbinator: for the Poker layout, he will need a 6.25x stabilizer. Those are prevalent in both Costar and Cherry.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 04 April 2013, 21:14:38
I feel bad for asking this, but I don't wanna read thru 20 some pages.  Here's a few questions.

1. Switches do not come assembled if I order the assembly?
2. Does anybody know of any upcoming GB's for some aluminum poker cases?  Something similar to what imsto offered, because if there isn't any opportunity for a case, i'm out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Sai on Thu, 04 April 2013, 21:24:11
I feel bad for asking this, but I don't wanna read thru 20 some pages.  Here's a few questions.

1. Switches do not come assembled if I order the assembly?
2. Does anybody know of any upcoming GB's for some aluminum poker cases?  Something similar to what imsto offered, because if there isn't any opportunity for a case, i'm out.

Answer

1. Everything will be assembled in assembly service by JD and WFD. i.e. switches soldered, firmware flash, etc.
2. alixinhzai is selling poker acrlyic case soon. check here (http://"http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40468.0")
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 22:18:33
I'd be happy to pay an extra 25$ assembly fee (plus the cost to order some leds) if you would solder in leds for mine?

1. I could be dead last if you want to deal with all the easy orders first
2. If you're too busy with all the other stuff and can't do it no worries!  ;D

(cross posted from the ic thread)

Also: I decided I want a second one do I just order again or do you/jd modify the order as it stands?

Thanks!

I'm not sure if I will be offering any custom services during the assembly phase. And I certainly can't speak to what WFD is thinking on that matter. But probably not, given the volume of orders we are likely to have for assembly. If I decide to offer limited modding services, I will post that here when it comes closer to delivery, and you could pay me directly. Of course, you are always free to contract with someone else for assembly and mods, if you want to do that.

I just want to be upfront about it, so that no one thinks that others will receive "special treatment," while they themselves are left to fend for these services on their own.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mbreslin on Thu, 04 April 2013, 22:37:30
That's fair it's just a service I'd use if someone was offering, I could tell by the post count between the two threads as well as tons of other threads where people mention GH60 that you'll all be very busy hence #2 from my post.

I have a hakko fx888 but I have a busy schedule as well as 3 young boys. Also I'm a mediocre at best solderer (as well as lazy).

Regarding a second pcb/plate/switch set do I just order again?

Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 04 April 2013, 23:22:10
That poker case is beautiful.  I don't know how to solder so I have to think about this one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 April 2013, 23:50:05
Regarding a second pcb/plate/switch set do I just order again?

Underneath "ORDER FORM" and "POLL" in the OP is a link for "Order Changes." It's sort of hidden there. Just fill that out and we will update your order.


Also, for everyone, all order changes submitted to date have been updated in the spreadsheet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 05 April 2013, 02:56:19
WFD said "The drawback is that you must use PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers, no other stabilizers option." for Universal Plates.

I'm wondering if this is true or not, assuming you don't plan to change any switches with stabs after putting it together. After viewing the PCB and universal Plates, my intuition tells me it'd be fine to use Plate mounted stabs and that Cherry PCB stabs are only recommended so people can move around stab area switches. Is my thinking correct?

Also, and this is related to the above, can we do more of a true HHKB (6.25 spacebar) with a 1.5x/1x to the right, thus making it look identical to an HHKB? Again, after looking at the PCB and universal Plate, it looks like it would work to me, but would probably require a Universal plate.

Edit - Errrr I guess there will probably be a problem with the stabs moving left and right making them not very stable lol. So no HHKB w/ 6.25 spacebar hmmm decisions decisions :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Fri, 05 April 2013, 03:08:37
Will the plates be anodized is some form or just plain aluminum look?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 05 April 2013, 03:21:46
WFD said "The drawback is that you must use PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers, no other stabilizers option." for Universal Plates.

I'm wondering if this is true or not, assuming you don't plan to change any switches with stabs after putting it together. After viewing the PCB and universal Plates, my intuition tells me it'd be fine to use Plate mounted stabs and that Cherry PCB stabs are only recommended so people can move around stab area switches. Is my thinking correct?
Of course it's true. Because I said so  ^-^

Actually the real reason why you can't use costar or plate-mounted cherry stabilizers is because these two mount directly on the plate. The universal design has an empty space where the stabilizers are suppose to clip onto the plate, and this space in the plate is needed for other switch positions of other layouts.


Also, for everyone, all order changes submitted to date have been updated in the spreadsheet.

Man there were about 50 new pending requests for order changes. Now I feel bad for leaving most of them. I didn't think you were going to do them all in 1 sitting.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 05 April 2013, 03:31:10
Will the plates be anodized is some form or just plain aluminum look?

Stainless steel, it's in the OP. Steel can't be anodized, only painted or powder coated.

The reason why I went with stainless steel instead of aluminum is because even though it's stiffer than aluminum, it can be laser cut faster and use up less gas, so the cutting will cost a tad less, even though the material itself will cost ~3 times more. Also tolerance will be  tad better because it's less prone to melting and deforming.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Fri, 05 April 2013, 03:55:32
Will the plates be anodized is some form or just plain aluminum look?

Stainless steel, it's in the OP. Steel can't be anodized, only painted or powder coated.

The reason why I went with stainless steel instead of aluminum is because even though it's stiffer than aluminum, it can be laser cut faster and use up less gas, so the cutting will cost a tad less, even though the material itself will cost ~3 times more. Also tolerance will be  tad better because it's less prone to melting and deforming.
Thank you I must have missed it, will place my order on sunday :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 April 2013, 07:05:42
On the right side, at top or bottom of posts, click unnotify.

Edit: or click Notifications at the top panel, click the checkbox next to the ones you don't want, and click unnotify.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 April 2013, 07:23:27
Also, and this is related to the above, can we do more of a true HHKB (6.25 spacebar) with a 1.5x/1x to the right, thus making it look identical to an HHKB? Again, after looking at the PCB and universal Plate, it looks like it would work to me, but would probably require a Universal plate.

Edit - Errrr I guess there will probably be a problem with the stabs moving left and right making them not very stable lol. So no HHKB w/ 6.25 spacebar hmmm decisions decisions :)

Actually, the "exactly 100% true" HHKB layout is this: (1.5)-1.0-1.5-6.0-1.5-1.0-(1.0)-(1.5)

These switch positions are supported by the PCB. The 6.0-unit spacebar has an offset center stem, so that it uses the switch position for the 7.0-unit spacebar. However, I don't think the spacebar stabilizer holes exist on the PCB for the 6.0-unit spacebar's outer stems. I'm not totally sure about that, but I will check it in a bit and edit this section accordingly. Edit: The stabilizer holes for the 6.0-unit are basically a hybrid of the 7.0-unit spacebar's (left and center stems) and the 6.25-unit spacebar's (right stem). So you can actually make this layout work without a plate, or with the Universal plate (I think) with PCB-mount stabilizers.

There is currently (that I know of) only one case design that implements the blocked ends on the bottom row to replicate the HHKB design, and that's WFD's case. It would be up to him whether he wanted to change the design of the case top and plate to incorporate the rare 6.0-unit spacebar for a 100% true replica, or stay with the current design which utilizes the much more commonly found 7.0-unit spacebar. And (to my eye) fixes the asymmetry of the HHKB's bottom row.

For everyone else besides Jocelyn and jcrouse, don't worry, nothing has changed. Continue to place orders. No need to worry about this. It was posted as an FYI. Anyway, it's TL; so DR. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 April 2013, 07:26:27
I agree with jd about the symmetry and availability. It just seems a much wiser choice.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 April 2013, 07:36:19
You want to remove them from there? I don't think you can do that...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 05 April 2013, 10:17:10
Thanks WhiteFireDragon and jdcarpe. I was really more curious than anything and wanted to understand before I chose :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 April 2013, 10:20:59
Also, for everyone, all order changes submitted to date have been updated in the spreadsheet.

Man there were about 50 new pending requests for order changes. Now I feel bad for leaving most of them. I didn't think you were going to do them all in 1 sitting.

Don't feel bad. I had been slacking, and decided to get some work done. :P
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jcrouse on Fri, 05 April 2013, 10:31:30
Also, for everyone, all order changes submitted to date have been updated in the spreadsheet.

Man there were about 50 new pending requests for order changes. Now I feel bad for leaving most of them. I didn't think you were going to do them all in 1 sitting.

Don't feel bad. I had been slacking, and decided to get some work done. :P

Well, stop that and focus on this outstanding offer, priorities man, priorities.

John
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 April 2013, 10:37:47
Boom! LOL. ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/kXiVNqR.png)

* * *  REQUIRES RARE 6.0-UNIT SPACEBAR * * *

!!! EXAMPLE ONLY -- NOT CURRENTLY OFFERED FOR SALE IN THIS GB !!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 05 April 2013, 10:44:10
thats a 6x spacebar? why would someone want that?
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 05 April 2013, 10:45:21
thats a 6x spacebar? why would someone want that?

HHKB replica :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 April 2013, 10:45:57
thats a 6x spacebar? why would someone want that?
Because everyone is different and people like different things and not always the same thing? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 April 2013, 10:47:34
Just like why does someone want a 10x spacebar...'Cause they f*cking can. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: funkymeeba on Fri, 05 April 2013, 10:48:36
thats a 6x spacebar? why would someone want that?
Because everyone is different and people like different things and not always the same thing? :)

That is crazy talk. Keep it confined to the loony bin. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:16:00
Also, and this is related to the above, can we do more of a true HHKB (6.25 spacebar) with a 1.5x/1x to the right, thus making it look identical to an HHKB? Again, after looking at the PCB and universal Plate, it looks like it would work to me, but would probably require a Universal plate.

Edit - Errrr I guess there will probably be a problem with the stabs moving left and right making them not very stable lol. So no HHKB w/ 6.25 spacebar hmmm decisions decisions :)

Actually, the "exactly 100% true" HHKB layout is this: (1.5)-1.0-1.5-6.0-1.5-1.0-(1.0)-(1.5)

These switch positions are supported by the PCB. The 6.0-unit spacebar has an offset center stem, so that it uses the switch position for the 7.0-unit spacebar. However, I don't think the spacebar stabilizer holes exist on the PCB for the 6.0-unit spacebar's outer stems. I'm not totally sure about that, but I will check it in a bit and edit this section accordingly. Edit: The stabilizer holes for the 6.0-unit are basically a hybrid of the 7.0-unit spacebar's (left and center stems) and the 6.25-unit spacebar's (right stem). So you can actually make this layout work without a plate, or with the Universal plate (I think) with PCB-mount stabilizers.

The universal plate will work with the HHKB replica bottom row. And not only that, you can actually mount plate-mounted cherry stabilizers for the spacebar. The Enter and L-shift key however must still use PCB-mounted stabilizers.

However, even if there was a dedicated plate like jdcarpe drew, the case must also match the bottom row. Since the right and left block are not the same size, I would have to make a new top cover. If you're fine with paying absurd prices to have one made, then I can design this one-off. But I can't force everyone to go with this HHKB replica because it REQUIRES a 6x spacebar, which is not easy to find, won't match all sets, and will most likely already be used.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:37:52
with all the effort, time, and money going into making a GH60 HHKB it would be cheaper and easier to just buy a HHKB.  the GH60 is an opportunity for people to make their own unique layouts. so what if you have a 6.25x or 7x spacebar? your board isnt a hhkb, it is a GH60 with cherry switches.  i guess i just see it as a waste of the GH60's full potential.

i am not telling any of yall what to do. just thought this line of thinking should be shared. also take what i say with a  grain of salt since i am not building a HHKB GH60, i am making 2 poker style ansi boards with a better function layer.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:38:44
The universal plate will work with the HHKB replica bottom row. And not only that, you can actually mount plate-mounted cherry stabilizers for the spacebar. The Enter and L-shift key however must still use PCB-mounted stabilizers.

However, even if there was a dedicated plate like jdcarpe drew, the case must also match the bottom row. Since the right and left block are not the same size, I would have to make a new top cover. If you're fine with paying absurd prices to have one made, then I can design this one-off. But I can't force everyone to go with this HHKB replica because it REQUIRES a 6x spacebar, which is not easy to find, won't match all sets, and will most likely already be used.

I'm down for a "true replica" top cover and plate, even if it's expensive. Maybe a couple other people would go in, as well?

I have 1 or 2 (can't remember) 6.0-unit spacebars in DSA profile coming from the DSA Retro GB.


with all the effort, time, and money going into making a GH60 HHKB it would be cheaper and easier to just buy a HHKB.

Except you get to use Cherry switches, and don't have to deal with rubber domes, er cups. ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: hankz on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:40:26
Boom! LOL. ;D

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kXiVNqR.png)


* * *  REQUIRES RARE 6.0-UNIT SPACEBAR * * *

!!! EXAMPLE ONLY -- NOT CURRENTLY OFFERED FOR SALE IN THIS GB !!!
woo~

Can i get poker layout plate for GH60 cad file.

i want to match my case to draw some hole for screw.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:45:11
Boom! LOL. ;D

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kXiVNqR.png)


* * *  REQUIRES RARE 6.0-UNIT SPACEBAR * * *

!!! EXAMPLE ONLY -- NOT CURRENTLY OFFERED FOR SALE IN THIS GB !!!
woo~

Can i get poker layout plate for GH60 cad file.

i want to match my case to draw some hole for screw.

the holes on the plate are not 100% concentric with the hole in the PCB (at least for the poker plates I have), but are close enough to mount screws
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 05 April 2013, 11:47:22
Can i get poker layout plate for GH60 cad file.

i want to match my case to draw some hole for screw.

If you're designing your own case, you need to reference standoffs to the PCB, not the plate. Only 1 of Those screw holes are correct, the rest are off.  alixinhzai designed the initial poker plate with those screw holes, and the positions are only approximated.

edit: Beast beat me to it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: hankz on Fri, 05 April 2013, 12:11:58
well~

i know that.

because i don't have any software to open pcb's cad file.

so i don't know the position is right or not.

maybe until i get the pcb.

thanks a lot
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 05 April 2013, 12:37:57
Fair Reasons for a 6x spacebar...i was just curious

anyhere here planning on getting that?

i have chaged my layout from hhkb to winkeyless
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 April 2013, 19:34:24
247 ordered so far...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 05 April 2013, 19:41:34
Just like why does someone want a 10x spacebar...'Cause they f*cking can. :D

We f*king can?  Really?  That would be awesome.  I suppose it is really a matter of plate-mounted stabs for the spacebar.

Sounds like a job for my WYSE terminal keycaps!

Universal plate supports this?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)

p.s.  Apologies if this was all covered above, I try to keep up with the thread, but sometimes it zooms by too fast!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 April 2013, 19:44:27
Just like why does someone want a 10x spacebar...'Cause they f*cking can. :D

We f*king can?  Really?  That would be awesome.  I suppose it is really a matter of plate-mounted stabs for the spacebar.

Sounds like a job for my WYSE terminal keycaps!

Universal plate supports this?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)


p.s.  Apologies if this was all covered above, I try to keep up with the thread, but sometimes it zooms by too fast!


No, there is no current plate that will support a 10x spacebar. Nor are there stabilizer holes in the correct places in the PCB for a 10x spacebar. The PCB supports the 1.5-1.0-10.0-1.0-1.5 layout with switch positions.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 05 April 2013, 19:44:31
Just like why does someone want a 10x spacebar...'Cause they f*cking can. :D

We f*king can?  Really?  That would be awesome.  I suppose it is really a matter of plate-mounted stabs for the spacebar.

Sounds like a job for my WYSE terminal keycaps!

Universal plate supports this?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)


p.s.  Apologies if this was all covered above, I try to keep up with the thread, but sometimes it zooms by too fast!


Haha, i'm not actually sure if the plate supports it. I just saw someone suggest the layout earlier in this thread. Sorry if I got your hopes up!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 April 2013, 19:47:37
6 unit space is not rare, you can get them off cheapo G81-7000 and the like. Unless someone doesn't want to use Cherry keycaps for some insane reason...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Muffet on Fri, 05 April 2013, 20:14:59
well~

i know that.

because i don't have any software to open pcb's cad file.

so i don't know the position is right or not.

maybe until i get the pcb.

thanks a lot

This. I have the opportunity to design my own case and machine out at my university, but I don't know the measurements needed. Is there any way the measurements for standoffs, overall dimensions for PCB, and plate and the like can be made available?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: n0rvig on Fri, 05 April 2013, 20:20:33
Speaking of rare spacebars, how tricky would it be to get a 5x spacebar onto a GH60? The idea being to make a layout similar to the Apple keyboards.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 05 April 2013, 20:22:53
I can add plates for 6x and 10x spacebars, but they'll be made as "one-offs" as long as you understand it will cost more. Also IvanIvanovich's plate layout will be considered one-off too since the current quantity is exactly... zero lol.

Does anyone have a 6x and 10x spacebar you can take a pic of? Flip it over and take a pic of them right on top of a standard 6.25x spacebar. Align one of the outer stems for the stabilizer right on top of each other. I just need to visually see it to make the stem distances


6 unit space is not rare, you can get them off cheapo G81-7000 and the like. Unless someone doesn't want to use Cherry keycaps for some insane reason...
Maybe rare was a bad choice of words, but they're less common and harder to get than a 6.25x or 7x spacebar.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 April 2013, 20:35:49
6
6.25
10
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01760_zps8b83af16.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 April 2013, 20:39:23
This one is for Ron (and other 10x spacebar fans), again, just fictional...

(http://i.imgur.com/ZntxEMV.png)

WFD, the spacebar stem locations on my 6x and 10x plates are correct. I can send you the drawings if you like.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 April 2013, 20:43:42
Ha! I asked jd about a 10x spacebar when we met up last month... I think I would grab one of those plates. What kind of price estimate would you think for one off plates?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 05 April 2013, 20:44:03
6
6.25
10
Show Image
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01760_zps8b83af16.jpg)


Holy Moly!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 05 April 2013, 20:46:14
Do you like big space bars? :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 05 April 2013, 20:46:57
6
6.25
10
Show Image
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01760_zps8b83af16.jpg)


Whoah!  That 10x bar is a monster!

(It would totally look vintage on a GH60 board, with some retro spherical keys in a nice Dolch colorway...)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 April 2013, 20:52:15
I wish I still had my 15 units... but I used it to stir some paint then threw it out LOL.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: hankz on Fri, 05 April 2013, 20:53:58
well~

i know that.

because i don't have any software to open pcb's cad file.

so i don't know the position is right or not.

maybe until i get the pcb.

thanks a lot

This. I have the opportunity to design my own case and machine out at my university, but I don't know the measurements needed. Is there any way the measurements for standoffs, overall dimensions for PCB, and plate and the like can be made available?

There is one thing that  I know  is the PCB's size.

So I design the case to match the PCB.

The other dimensions, you should get the final PCB that can be confirmed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 April 2013, 20:57:34
I wish I still had my 15 units... but I used it to stir some paint then threw it out LOL.
15x!? Now we're just talkin' crazy...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:00:34
I wish I still had my 15 units... but I used it to stir some paint then threw it out LOL.

ROFL! Hilarious post is hilarious... I'd like to see one on a GH60
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:12:29
Entire bottom row, 1 keycap... problem?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:20:59
This one is for Ron (and other 10x spacebar fans), again, just fictional...

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZntxEMV.png)


WFD, the spacebar stem locations on my 6x and 10x plates are correct. I can send you the drawings if you like.


What is outboard of that bar? 1.25 x 2 on each side? 1.50?

[edit] Oh. 10 + (1.25 x 4) = 15. Got it. [/edit]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:21:38
Exactly, one keycap for bottom row lol. No problems :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:27:22
Would it be possible instead to make it either 1-1.5-10-1.5-1 or 1.5-1-10-1-1.5?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:34:03
What is outboard of that bar? 1.25 x 2 on each side? 1.50?

[edit] Oh. 10 + (1.25 x 4) = 15. Got it. [/edit]

Actually, those are 1.5-1-10-1-1.5


Would it be possible instead to make it either 1-1.5-10-1.5-1 or 1.5-1-10-1-1.5?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:37:46
Mmm, yes.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:59:55
Jd just wanted to make sure you got my PM.  When I sent it I had spotty 4G and the PM system doesn't seem to log my sent messages. No rush for an answer though, I know your busy.  Just wanted to be sure the damned thing actually sent.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 April 2013, 22:04:08
To see messages you've sent that haven't been replied to, go to Messages, then hover over Messages (next to Actions and Preferences) then click on Sent Items (as long as you had the save PM checkbox checked).
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 05 April 2013, 22:20:11
To see messages you've sent that haven't been replied to, go to Messages, then hover over Messages (next to Actions and Preferences) then click on Sent Items (as long as you had the save PM checkbox checked).
Huh the more you know.  I'm used to IPB forums rather than this.  Is it set to save PM automatically?
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 April 2013, 22:22:47
Jd just wanted to make sure you got my PM.  When I sent it I had spotty 4G and the PM system doesn't seem to log my sent messages. No rush for an answer though, I know your busy.  Just wanted to be sure the damned thing actually sent.

Yes, I got your PM, but I hadn't replied until just now. Sorry it took so long, but thanks for reminding me. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: whiskytango on Fri, 05 April 2013, 22:31:06
I am a fan of the 10x space bar too. I thought some of my old WYSE space bars were 10x, but, upon inspection, it appears they may be 9.75x? I took some pics and lined up the left edge with the left edge of the A key. The right edge was just a little shy of lining up with the ;: key. I guess it would still work with just a slight gap on either side (0.125 units)?


[attach=1] [attach=2] [attach=3]

Also, Pics of space bars: Top to Bottom: 6.25x from WYSE moogle, 6.25x universal from SP, 7x from WYSE tsangan set, and 9.75x/10x? from WYSE terminal board

[attach=4]

EDIT: I was thinking about doing a stem mod on the 10x to make the stabilizer locations match the ones for the 7x. But I would consider a dedicated plate for this, depending on price increase. And I think you could make the rest of the plate match the universal layout, that way we still would have options for the other switch locations/layouts. Just a thought.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 05 April 2013, 22:34:04
To see messages you've sent that haven't been replied to, go to Messages, then hover over Messages (next to Actions and Preferences) then click on Sent Items (as long as you had the save PM checkbox checked).
Huh the more you know.  I'm used to IPB forums rather than this.  Is it set to save PM automatically?
If it's not, then there is a setting somewhere to make it be checked automatically.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 06 April 2013, 00:59:45
6
6.25
10
 *img snipped*

I am a fan of the 10x space bar too. I thought some of my old WYSE space bars were 10x, but, upon inspection, it appears they may be 9.75x? I took some pics and lined up the left edge with the left edge of the A key. The right edge was just a little shy of lining up with the ;: key. I guess it would still work with just a slight gap on either side (0.125 units)?

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
Also, Pics of space bars: Top to Bottom: 6.25x from WYSE moogle, 6.25x universal from SP, 7x from WYSE tsangan set, and 9.75x/10x? from WYSE terminal board
(Attachment Link)

Wow thanks for pics. I'll look into this.



WFD, the spacebar stem locations on my 6x and 10x plates are correct. I can send you the drawings if you like.

I just got your email for the spacebar sizes. Haven't looked at it yet, but for the 10x size, how did you know the outside stem positions for the stabilizers? Was this something you measured or calculated? If it's calculated or you got it from a schematic somewhere, then it'll be more exact than something that was physically measured.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 06 April 2013, 04:22:15
^DT wiki says they're 3.5x in from the edges, at least on that one lysol posted.

Also, I think I agree with wt about the rest being universal to allow for some fun in layouts.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 06 April 2013, 12:49:47
The Cherry MX data sheet gives the "A" dimension for 10x space bars, same as 8x... 5.25"
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 06 April 2013, 12:54:39

I have 1 or 2 (can't remember) 6.0-unit spacebars in DSA profile coming from the DSA Retro GB.


Beware.  I was excited about the 6x space in the DSA groupbuy because my board uses 6x.  But according to that thread they don't use the offcenter switch from Cherry boards, but instead a crazy center stemmed thing that doesn't fit anything.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 06 April 2013, 13:01:18
What is outboard of that bar? 1.25 x 2 on each side? 1.50?

[edit] Oh. 10 + (1.25 x 4) = 15. Got it. [/edit]

Actually, those are 1.5-1-10-1-1.5


Would it be possible instead to make it either 1-1.5-10-1.5-1 or 1.5-1-10-1-1.5?


The answer to the second question was too subtle for me.  Could you elaborate, please?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 06 April 2013, 13:04:05
Looking at some of the terminal boards, some have 1-1.5-10-1.5-1 as Left - Mod - Space - Mod2 - Right.

And then the 2.75 R_Shift is split into 1.75-1 as R_Shift - Up.

That would make a coolio retro GH60.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 06 April 2013, 13:11:40
No, the PCB doesn't have switch locations for 1x keys on the ends. Sorry. :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 06 April 2013, 13:12:13
Looking at some of the terminal boards, some have 1-1.5-10-1.5-1 as Left - Mod - Space - Mod2 - Right.

And then the 2.75 R_Shift is split into 1.75-1 as R_Shift - Up.

That would make a coolio retro GH60.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)


[edit] Sadly, according to the GH60 Layout Master, it has to be 1.5-1-10-1-1.5. [/edit]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 06 April 2013, 13:13:47
The Cherry MX data sheet gives the "A" dimension for 10x space bars, same as 8x... 5.25"

I measured mine and used that dimension...5.25"

Meaning the measurement from the center stem to each outboard stem is 66.675 mm as calculated by me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 06 April 2013, 13:18:19
No, the PCB doesn't have switch locations for 1x keys on the ends. Sorry. :(

I see that now that I am on my workstation instead of my dang tablet.

Looks like 1.5-1-10-1-1.5 and 1.25-1.25-10-1.25-1.25 are both supported.

Can you send me the DWG file for the imaginary plate?  I might play with it for imaginary use with old WYSE terminal keycap sets and the GH60.

Thanks very much!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)

p.s.  Everyone should measure their 10x lengths and stem spacing and post that info along with the spacebar's provenance.  I will do just that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Chase5delta on Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:25:10
Man I wish the order form wasn't so confusing, I feel like I am going to **** up and forget something. Also, sorry if this has already been asked, if we pay for assembly, do you solder on the switches? I am looking to basically buy a completed keyboard and not have to do any soldering.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:30:22
What's so confusing about it? You get a PCB and choose a plate. Switches and stabilizers are optional. The assembly will get you an almost complete keyboard, you'll still need to get a case and USB cable. But if you choose the assembly option, you'll obviously have to order switches and stablizers too, unless you send those in.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:31:21
Man I wish the order form wasn't so confusing, I feel like I am going to **** up and forget something. Also, sorry if this has already been asked, if we pay for assembly, do you solder on the switches? I am looking to basically buy a completed keyboard and not have to do any soldering.

If you mess up we can help you fix it. If you buy the GH60 PCB (SMD presoldered), plate (optional), stabilizers, switches, and assembly service, you will receive a complete keyboard, without a case or USB cable.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Chase5delta on Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:34:26
Ok thanks, gonna try to get my order in when I get home.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cyberwave on Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:34:52
have a question regarding the GH60...

i noticed the switches for the bottom row are mounted at 90degrees. i wonder how standard keycaps would fit

if im not wrong, the horizontal and vertical axes of the stem have different widths. meaning keycaps can only be mounted the right way/rotated 180degrees and doesnt allow it to be installed at 90degrees  :confused:

correct me if im wrong  :-X
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:36:15
have a question regarding the GH60...

i noticed the switches for the bottom row are mounted at 90degrees. i wonder how standard keycaps would fit

if im not wrong, the horizontal and vertical axes of the stem have different widths. meaning keycaps can only be mounted the right way/rotated 180degrees and doesnt allow it to be installed at 90degrees  :confused:

correct me if im wrong  :-X

All switches (except ISO Enter) in the final PCB revision will be rotated either 0 or 180 degrees.

You can install keycaps on 90 degree rotated switches. See my "Post Your GH60" thread...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: longweight on Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:37:37
Cancelled my order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cyberwave on Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:44:41
opps seems like i jumped the gun  :-[

i tried fitting it on 90degrees and the keycaps do fit in though it does take a bit more strength to get the cap on.

thanks for the clarification :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:48:00
^DT wiki says they're 3.5x in from the edges, at least on that one lysol posted.
The Cherry MX data sheet gives the "A" dimension for 10x space bars, same as 8x... 5.25"

Can you point me to the link? The I can't find the datasheet for offset 6x, 6.25x, and 10x spacebars. The only one I found is this one:

http://cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 06 April 2013, 16:05:34
Submitted order.  Hopefully I got everything I need.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 06 April 2013, 16:13:00
Ok here's a new flexible plate so far. It will work with 10x, as well as some weird 8x and 9x spacebars. It supports both 1.5x and 1.25x modifiers if you're using a 10x spacebar. Obviously the inside switch slots will be covered up by the spacebar if you're using a 10x size. Those inner switch slots next to the stabilizer slots are there if you're somehow using a 8x or 9x size, but I'm not sure if the PCB has proper spacing for the correct keycap sizes there. Those two extras switch holes are there just in case.

With this, you MUST use plate-mounted cherry stabilizers for the spacebar. Costar is not option because making the wire for it will be a pain the ass. PCB-mounted stabilizers is not an option because the PCB does not have holes there. The rest of smaller stabilizers must use PCB-mounted cherry to keep the flexibility of layouts.

[attach=1]



Quote
^DT wiki says they're 3.5x in from the edges
Based on this 3.5x unit and cherry's 5.25" distances apart, the numbers match up to 2.625" distance from switch center to one stabilizer center, so that's how I made the plate. It should be correct. I'm still looking into the offset spacebars.

Btw "3.5x unit in" is not from the edge of the spacebar. It's from the center space between the spacebar and the adjacent key.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 06 April 2013, 16:42:44
Will this do 1.5 - 1 - 10 - 1 - 1.5 ?

Thanks!

 - Ron I samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 06 April 2013, 16:51:39
1.5 - 1 - 10 - 1 - 1.5

1.25 - 1.25 - 10 - 1.25 - 1.25

These both work for 10x spacebar size, supported by the plate and PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 06 April 2013, 17:01:33
^DT wiki says they're 3.5x in from the edges, at least on that one lysol posted.
The Cherry MX data sheet gives the "A" dimension for 10x space bars, same as 8x... 5.25"

Can you point me to the link? The I can't find the datasheet for offset 6x, 6.25x, and 10x spacebars. The only one I found is this one:

http://cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm

That's the link.  Doesn't have 6x or 6.25x, but it has 10x.  Never heard of off-center 10x.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: aggiejy on Sat, 06 April 2013, 21:58:50
Regarding a few of the "confusing order form" posts, I think much of the form assumes that the user understands what a plate and stabilizers are and a bit about the difference between the stabilizers.  In fact, some newish users don't know anything except basic switch color differences and that it's a cool looking "custom" keyboard.  (I know this because 2 different non-keyboard-nut friends of mine have asked me to help them order this GB!)  I'm not saying you need to address this, but it probably does explain people being confused.  If you understand the basic components of a keyboard and how they fit together, then it's not at all.

Perhaps a couple "pre built" options for popular configs?  Or just add a few dumbed down topics to the OP to explain what's what. (or link to it)  Just a thought. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Sun, 07 April 2013, 12:37:22
I have one last question before ordering, I assume only standard MX switches are available?
As in no ergo-clears on buying this?
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 07 April 2013, 12:40:16
I have one last question before ordering, I assume only standard MX switches are available?
As in no ergo-clears on buying this?

You assume correctly.

If you wanted ergo-clears, you would have to buy clears, plus the same amount of either blues, reds, or browns. Then contract with someone outside of the GB to assemble for you, as that would not be covered in standard assembly.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Sun, 07 April 2013, 12:47:24
I have one last question before ordering, I assume only standard MX switches are available?
As in no ergo-clears on buying this?

You assume correctly.

If you wanted ergo-clears, you would have to buy clears, plus the same amount of either blues, reds, or browns. Then contract with someone outside of the GB to assemble for you, as that would not be covered in standard assembly.
I will just buy korean springs later on and switch them out myself since the plates allow for easy top removal.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 07 April 2013, 12:49:18
I have one last question before ordering, I assume only standard MX switches are available?
As in no ergo-clears on buying this?

You assume correctly.

If you wanted ergo-clears, you would have to buy clears, plus the same amount of either blues, reds, or browns. Then contract with someone outside of the GB to assemble for you, as that would not be covered in standard assembly.
I will just buy korean springs later on and switch them out myself since the plates allow for easy top removal.

Good idea! :D
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: fydo on Sun, 07 April 2013, 13:10:50
This may be a silly question, but will the "Poker" style plate from this GB work with an actual Poker PCB?
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 07 April 2013, 13:13:31
This may be a silly question, but will the "Poker" style plate from this GB work with an actual Poker PCB?

Yes, it will! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Sun, 07 April 2013, 14:50:27
Just sent my order in. I hope I got it all right. I'm kinda nervous, since it's my first GB ;D

I'll be watching out for cases over the summer. Some of those projects look really nice!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 07 April 2013, 14:56:53
This may be a silly question, but will the "Poker" style plate from this GB work with an actual Poker PCB?

Yes, it will! :D

So by that logic, the Pure plate will work on Pures right? :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 07 April 2013, 15:02:37
A ridiculously large 10x spacebar in a compact keyboard. I like this contrast of an oversized key in a small form factor. It's on the plate I just posted above.

[attach=1]




So by that logic, the Pure plate will work on Pures right? :D

Yes, will fit Pure and the stock case perfectly.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 07 April 2013, 15:04:40
That thing looks crazy! I'd type dat.
(http://www.troll.me/images/obama-meh/id-type-that.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nebo on Sun, 07 April 2013, 15:12:30
A ridiculously large 10x spacebar in a compact keyboard. I like this contrast of an oversized key in a small form factor. It's on the plate I just posted above.

If only I had a 10x spacebar... I'm going to be kicking it old fashioned 7x space bar normal HHKB style.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: whiskytango on Sun, 07 April 2013, 16:18:31
Ok here's a new flexible plate so far. It will work with 10x, as well as some weird 8x and 9x spacebars. It supports both 1.5x and 1.25x modifiers if you're using a 10x spacebar. Obviously the inside switch slots will be covered up by the spacebar if you're using a 10x size. Those inner switch slots next to the stabilizer slots are there if you're somehow using a 8x or 9x size, but I'm not sure if the PCB has proper spacing for the correct keycap sizes there. Those two extras switch holes are there just in case.

With this, you MUST use plate-mounted cherry stabilizers for the spacebar. Costar is not option because making the wire for it will be a pain the ass. PCB-mounted stabilizers is not an option because the PCB does not have holes there. The rest of smaller stabilizers must use PCB-mounted cherry to keep the flexibility of layouts.

This is awesome! I like it! Do you think it would be possible to add cutouts for a 7x spacebar to this plate also? That way you have just a little more compatibility?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 07 April 2013, 16:25:23
A ridiculously large 10x spacebar in a compact keyboard. I like this contrast of an oversized key in a small form factor. It's on the plate I just posted above.

lol that's kinda sorta (not really) like putting a 680 in an SG05
Edit - I guess the above would be more comparable to using a 15x spacebar.

Carrying this over because I'm nice :)
Ok here's a new flexible plate so far. It will work with 10x, as well as some weird 8x and 9x spacebars. It supports both 1.5x and 1.25x modifiers if you're using a 10x spacebar. Obviously the inside switch slots will be covered up by the spacebar if you're using a 10x size. Those inner switch slots next to the stabilizer slots are there if you're somehow using a 8x or 9x size, but I'm not sure if the PCB has proper spacing for the correct keycap sizes there. Those two extras switch holes are there just in case.

With this, you MUST use plate-mounted cherry stabilizers for the spacebar. Costar is not option because making the wire for it will be a pain the ass. PCB-mounted stabilizers is not an option because the PCB does not have holes there. The rest of smaller stabilizers must use PCB-mounted cherry to keep the flexibility of layouts.

This is awesome! I like it! Do you think it would be possible to add cutouts for a 7x spacebar to this plate also? That way you have just a little more compatibility?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 07 April 2013, 17:07:22
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-0499

Here is that link, and you were right. I read it too quickly, but it is 3.5x from the center stem. Sorry...

Also, that plate is perfect, WFD. And by my calculations (assuming we can use plates from this buy in it...) that would fit perfectly in your HHKB case!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Aleksander on Sun, 07 April 2013, 17:51:49
eeeeeehhhrrmm... is there any way to check if I remembered to submit my order?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 07 April 2013, 19:28:11
This is awesome! I like it! Do you think it would be possible to add cutouts for a 7x spacebar to this plate also? That way you have just a little more compatibility?

You read my mind. I was in the middle of drawing up this plate when you wrote this. I'm just deciding whether to add the 7x spacebar cutouts into this 10x spacebar plate, or just integrate this 10x spacebar design into existing 1.5x plates. If I do this second option, goods news for you is that you won't have to pay the high price tier of 1-2 plate to have one-off made, but it might increase the cost for everyone else by like 50cents because of the added cut lengths.



http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-0499 (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-0499)

Here is that link, and you were right. I read it too quickly, but it is 3.5x from the center stem. Sorry...

Also, that plate is perfect, WFD. And by my calculations (assuming we can use plates from this buy in it...) that would fit perfectly in your HHKB case!

It's actually both and very symmetrical. It's 3.5x units in from the center space (between spacebar and adjacent key) to the center stabilizer stem, and also 3.5x units from the center switch to center stabilizer stem. I realized this when making the plate.

Yeah it'll fit both standard case and HHKB case. There was a pic of a render of real key sizes just in the last page lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 07 April 2013, 21:09:15
I would love if it was added for more compatibility to existing plates for only 50 cents. I already have a lot of plates in my basket... :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 08 April 2013, 02:57:27
eeeeeehhhrrmm... is there any way to check if I remembered to submit my order?
Yes, you did;)
1 GH60 and 1 ISO 1.25 plate, right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mm87 on Mon, 08 April 2013, 05:25:53
Changed my order a bit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 08 April 2013, 07:31:45
Can you confirm my order? Sounds silly but i miss ordered a crap load of stabs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:15:36
What is everyone's favorite Stabilizer?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:22:25
Can you confirm my order? Sounds silly but i miss ordered a crap load of stabs.

Have you down for 1x set of Cherry plate mount stabs
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: polarpigs on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:23:26
What is everyone's favorite Stabilizer?

I'm stuck on this too, not sure if I should go with Costar or plate mounted Cherries :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:30:40
This is awesome! I like it! Do you think it would be possible to add cutouts for a 7x spacebar to this plate also? That way you have just a little more compatibility?

You read my mind. I was in the middle of drawing up this plate when you wrote this. I'm just deciding whether to add the 7x spacebar cutouts into this 10x spacebar plate, or just integrate this 10x spacebar design into existing 1.5x plates. If I do this second option, goods news for you is that you won't have to pay the high price tier of 1-2 plate to have one-off made, but it might increase the cost for everyone else by like 50cents because of the added cut lengths.

Adding to existing plates is probably the best idea. You lose the option of making all the other stabilizer positions "universal", but it would keep cost down. Unless you can figure out a way to add the 10x capability to the universal plates, but I don't see how with lack of PCB mount stab support for the 10x. Thanks for doing this though!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:32:54
i went with cherrys because i don't want to try and make a stab bar for the spacebar, i heard you can't buy them :S
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:38:34
Costar 6.25x spacebar wires are readily available. 7x wires for Costar would have to be custom made.

Cherry 6.25x and 7x spacebar wires should be available, and if not, they are easy to bend, as it is only two 90 degree bends at the correct length.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: KennyR on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:42:54
Hello lovely folk, I'm posting this to make sure I fill in my order correctly.

After reading through 26 pages in this thread, I believe I need the following:
I don't require switches.

With this, I hope to assemble a poker style GH60. So from the above list I need 1 PCB, 1 poker plate and a stabilizer set, correct?
The other PCB is used for testing some universal layouts and the GH60 layout. For this I need 1 PCB, 1 Universal plate, 1 GH60 plate and a stabilizer set, if I'm not mistaking?

The spacebar wire needed in the GH60 and Poker layout is 6.25x right?

And below you can see how I filled in my order form to get the above specifications.

If I filled it in correctly, can someone let me know so I can order? ;)

Ps: thank you everybody who contributed to this project!

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:44:18
@KennyR Looks good to me! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: KennyR on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:57:12
@KennyR Looks good to me! :D

Thank you! I'll order right away!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: polarpigs on Mon, 08 April 2013, 09:49:46
@jdcarpe Just placed my order, can you please check if my comments/notes for the shipping are ok? Would that be possible?  :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 09:52:44
@jdcarpe Just placed my order, can you please check if my comments/notes for the shipping are ok? Would that be possible?  :-[

Yes, that is fine. One of us will contact you when they are ready to ship to verify your shipping address at that time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mbreslin on Mon, 08 April 2013, 10:29:54
As someone new to mechanical keyboards I have no idea yet what switch suits me but I didn't want to miss out on this gb. Definitely I prefer the poker layout, of all keyboards to stop making it kind of perplexes me that the poker was stopped.

Anyway as I have no idea yet what kind of switches I prefer I got a set with reds and a set with browns. I'm thinking I'll just offer up whichever I don't keep here for cost.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 10:34:49
As someone new to mechanical keyboards I have no idea yet what switch suits me but I didn't want to miss out on this gb. Definitely I prefer the poker layout, of all keyboards to stop making it kind of perplexes me that the poker was stopped.

Anyway as I have no idea yet what kind of switches I prefer I got a set with reds and a set with browns. I'm thinking I'll just offer up whichever I don't keep here for cost.

Yes, that's a good idea. You'll probably like BOTH reds and browns. I do. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ForestFunK on Mon, 08 April 2013, 10:48:16
Is it possible to get a costar stabilizer set with both 6.25x AND 7x spacebar wire? I'm not yet sure if I go with 1,25x or 1,5x modifiers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 08 April 2013, 10:52:24
You would have to bend or get a custom bent 7x Costar wire. I'm not sure if those are being offered within this buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 08 April 2013, 10:55:03
I'm making all the wires for everyone that ordered cherry stabs in this GB, same like I did for all the Phantom order that Profosist was offering.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Winther on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:26:19
just to make sure, do I have to specify that I want wires with my cherry pcb stabs? they dont come with the stabd automaticly..?

if not, then would anyone be so kind as to add them to my order? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:28:40
just to make sure, do I have to specify that I want wires with my cherry pcb stabs? they dont come with the stabd automaticly..?

if not, then would anyone be so kind as to add them to my order? :)

You just have to specify the spacebar wire size, and it's already in your order. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 08 April 2013, 13:43:21
Just to double check, if you order Costar stabilizers, you get the stabilizing bar with them, correct?  I'm looking at the Poker layout and want to make sure I won't have to scrounge up a space bar stabilizer somewhere.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 13:45:59
Just to double check, if you order Costar stabilizers, you get the stabilizing bar with them, correct?  I'm looking at the Poker layout and want to make sure I won't have to scrounge up a space bar stabilizer somewhere.

Yes, I'm pretty sure every Costar stabilizer set will come with a 6.25x spacebar wire.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mbreslin on Mon, 08 April 2013, 14:15:45
Is it an easy process to remount a different set of stabs? If so I'll change my order (yet again, sorry!) to add 2 sets of costars so I can try both. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 08 April 2013, 14:18:12
Costar is easy

plate-mounted cherry requires you to desolder one switch

PCB-mounted cherry is super easy if there are no plate. If there is a plate, it's impossible without desoldering every switch and taking off the plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 08 April 2013, 14:36:38
ANSI 1.5 uses regular modifiers like you would find in a Filco, correct?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rknize on Mon, 08 April 2013, 14:39:50
PCB-mounted cherry is super easy if there are no plate. If there is a plate, it's impossible without desoldering every switch and taking off the plate.

Not impossible...I've done it...but it's quite a challenge and you need to be a bit brave.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 08 April 2013, 14:47:16
In the scope of this GB where many are newbs and don't even know the difference between each stabilizer, it's impossible in that sense. Save the frustration for many people  ^-^

It depends on which plate you have too. The Korean plates I think has a tad more room to work with for PCB-mounted, but these plates are a bit more tight. I haven't tried it yet, but I don't think there is enough room to pop up one of the legs from the PCB. I'm specifically talking about the smaller stabilizers towards the middle of the PCB, not the spacebar. And I'm not going to bother trying after doing this once already.
 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Aleksander on Mon, 08 April 2013, 14:57:32
eeeeeehhhrrmm... is there any way to check if I remembered to submit my order?
Yes, you did;)
1 GH60 and 1 ISO 1.25 plate, right?
Perfect! not much but I only have two hands to type with  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: reddeth on Mon, 08 April 2013, 14:59:05
If you get a moment, would someone please confirm my order to be sure it's right? I'm paranoid  :))

Should be 2 soldered PCB's and 2 Poker plates, and I think that was it.

Also I apologize for not keeping up on the thread as a whole, but are we still looking at September time for a "if nothing goes wrong" delivery?

Thank you!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rknize on Mon, 08 April 2013, 15:01:37
Fair enough.  I had to desolder a few surrounding switches and be willing to flex the PCB/plate quite a bit to swing them out.  Not fun, but possible.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: sth on Mon, 08 April 2013, 15:24:52
WFD can you confirm my order as well? mainly the choice of plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 08 April 2013, 15:36:23
1x ANSI 1.5x plate
1x PCB
4x cherry stabs for mods
1x cherry stab for 6.25x space
1x cherry stab for 7x space

edit: I think Matt3o is trying to make is software available in time before the ordering for this GB is finished. The order changes are confirmations by google doc is just inefficient, it still needs manual changes from us. It's better if you guys can see your own order or modify them yourselves.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 15:55:52
If you get a moment, would someone please confirm my order to be sure it's right? I'm paranoid  :))

Should be 2 soldered PCB's and 2 Poker plates, and I think that was it.

Also I apologize for not keeping up on the thread as a whole, but are we still looking at September time for a "if nothing goes wrong" delivery?

Thank you!

Yes, that is what you ordered.

And, yes, as far as we know, that's as good an estimate as any. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: sth on Mon, 08 April 2013, 16:24:37
1x ANSI 1.5x plate
1x PCB
4x cherry stabs for mods
1x cherry stab for 6.25x space
1x cherry stab for 7x space

edit: I think Matt3o is trying to make is software available in time before the ordering for this GB is finished. The order changes are confirmations by google doc is just inefficient, it still needs manual changes from us. It's better if you guys can see your own order or modify them yourselves.
very helpful thanks. i submitted an order change to add one 'true' hhkb plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 08 April 2013, 16:38:48
Important update - please read
Update on the switches (very important!)
We were going to order the switches from 7bit @ deskthority for you. But the prices of switches are going up and he has to pay 100% for preorders. Buying preordered switches is cheaper, but we are not collecting payments yet and payment for the switches is due soon.
I'm worried that if we collect your money for the switches and pay together it might be too late and the groupbuy will be delayed.

That's why my proposition is that if you want to make sure you get your switches along with the GH60, remove your switch order from the order form (by submitting the "order changes" form) and go to http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html) and place your order according to the info there.
You can either have the switches shipped to you (independently from GH60) or we can arrange something with 7bit so that you get them together with GH60 and save shipping (that's the only option for those who checked "assembly" in the order form, of course).
I will post details about it soon.

If you can't pay for switches now or don't want to bother ordering directly from 7bit, you can leave your order as it it. We will then order the switches for you when the money is fully collected, but the prices might be a tad higher and the switches may come later.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 08 April 2013, 16:48:29
^ True story.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Binge on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:00:37
On that note would you please remove the switches and assembly service from my order.  Thanks for the update :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tricheboars on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:00:44
ok fellas. this is a major update.

I have noticed that 7-bit has an account here on GH. But I imagine you suggest we contact him through DT due to the Group Buy being run off that site.

Looks like I gotta create a DT account and practice my European accent and keyboard ways. So European's like Cherry Switches, wine, and references to David Hasselhoff right? I think I can do this.

I will be changing my order after I find the switches or at least place my order. Conrad and Mouser have switches as well right?  Just wondering how long the delay with 7-Bit maybe... could be really long.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tym on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:03:38
ok fellas. this is a major update.

I have noticed that 7-bit has an account here on GH. But I imagine you suggest we contact him through DT due to the Group Buy being run off that site.

Looks like I gotta create a DT account and practice my European accent and keyboard ways. So European's like Cherry Switches, wine, and references to David Hasselhoff right? I think I can do this.

I will be changing my order after I find the switches or at least place my order. Conrad and Mouser have switches as well right?  Just wondering how long the delay with 7-Bit maybe... could be really long.

Some of us like starting World Wars, we also like madly following America into random wars across the globe!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rknize on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:06:51
I've ordered switches from 7bit a few times without issue.  Shipping can take a little while, but he ships fairly quickly once he has stock.  However, I haven't ordered since the latest price hikes and the lead time seems to be worsening.  If you want to go this route, do it ASAP.  7bit will soon be buried in Round 4 key caps, so I would expect CherryMX responsiveness to slow even more.

7bit actively avoids GH and his ordering scripts are not hooked into GH's PM system anymore anyway.  You will need to contact him there and converse with his script via DT PMs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:09:13
On that note would you please remove the switches and assembly service from my order.  Thanks for the update :)
Please use the "change order" form, just for the record. Thanks!
ok fellas. this is a major update.

I have noticed that 7-bit has an account here on GH. But I imagine you suggest we contact him through DT due to the Group Buy being run off that site.

Looks like I gotta create a DT account and practice my European accent and keyboard ways. So European's like Cherry Switches, wine, and references to David Hasselhoff right? I think I can do this.

I will be changing my order after I find the switches or at least place my order. Conrad and Mouser have switches as well right?  Just wondering how long the delay with 7-Bit maybe... could be really long.
Please don't pay for these orders yet, I will soon post info how to indicate that the switches should be sent to us, so that you don't pay shipping.
As for mouser and digikey, I'm not sure they have all types, but 7bit has for sure;)
The current estimation is September/October for these switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:16:43
If we want to order the switches now...should we pm him or use that order form?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rknize on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:18:56
Follow the link to the DT thread and follow the instructions in the OP.  Ordering from 7bit is...different.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Binge on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:22:05
On that note would you please remove the switches and assembly service from my order.  Thanks for the update :)
Please use the "change order" form, just for the record. Thanks!
ok fellas. this is a major update.

I have noticed that 7-bit has an account here on GH. But I imagine you suggest we contact him through DT due to the Group Buy being run off that site.

Looks like I gotta create a DT account and practice my European accent and keyboard ways. So European's like Cherry Switches, wine, and references to David Hasselhoff right? I think I can do this.

I will be changing my order after I find the switches or at least place my order. Conrad and Mouser have switches as well right?  Just wondering how long the delay with 7-Bit maybe... could be really long.
Please don't pay for these orders yet, I will soon post info how to indicate that the switches should be sent to us, so that you don't pay shipping.
As for mouser and digikey, I'm not sure they have all types, but 7bit has for sure;)
The current estimation is September/October for these switches.

thanks! done~
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:22:42
I might just stick with ordering from here...if the only issue is time..then it's no big deal to me
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:24:32
I might just stick with ordering from here...if the only issue is time..then it's no big deal to me
Not only. The other issue is money.

BTW you can still order from 7bit and use the assembly service at the same time. I'm arranging with 7bit, and we'll have your 7bit orders shipped to us.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:28:50
I might just stick with ordering from here...if the only issue is time..then it's no big deal to me
Not only. The other issue is money.

BTW you can still order from 7bit and use the assembly service at the same time. I'm arranging with 7bit, and we'll have your 7bit orders shipped to us.

ohhhh ok cool
i guess we should mention in the order form that it is for the GH60 groupbuy? i am getting the assembly service, so i'd want them to be shipped to you guys.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: aggiejy on Mon, 08 April 2013, 17:48:23
Could I bother one of you for my order contents?  I placed one a while back and added to it, but I didn't write it down. *doh* With the switch situation, I might want to revise things.

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:18:20
Could I bother one of you for my order contents?  I placed one a while back and added to it, but I didn't write it down. *doh* With the switch situation, I might want to revise things.

Thanks!

Sent you a PM. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:24:25
So forgive me for starting ****, but 7bit doesn't support GH like at all(this is important for a keyboard that's "for the community, by the community) and is actively trying to build his own 60% board that he's claimed is better than the GH60, but we're still supporting him with buying switches through him?

I wish mouser did whites.

To answer the question above, mouser sells blacks/blues/clears in pcb and plate mount.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:40:29
Damn I need reds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: sth on Mon, 08 April 2013, 18:47:26
So forgive me for starting ****, but 7bit doesn't support GH like at all(this is important for a keyboard that's "for the community, by the community) and is actively trying to build his own 60% board that he's claimed is better than the GH60, but we're still supporting him with buying switches through him?

I wish mouser did whites.

To answer the question above, mouser sells blacks/blues/clears in pcb and plate mount.

he is trolling you, do you think he actually cares about the gh60 that much? he's not a bad dude he just has a weird sense of humor, dont take it so personally
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:32:29
Wish we had someone within GH who sold all switches...maybe one day
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rknize on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:34:56
I would not expect to see a whole lot come out of the Hyper project for at least a year or more.  In the meantime, GH60 will come and go.  There is also GH60++/70, which will probably start moving once Retro DSA is done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:35:35
i would probably get a numpad :D
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:36:53
I would not expect to see a whole lot come out of the Hyper project for at least a year or more.  In the meantime, GH60 will come and go.  There is also GH60++/70, which will probably start moving once Retro DSA is done.

What's GH60++? D:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:37:30
So forgive me for starting ****, but 7bit doesn't support GH like at all(this is important for a keyboard that's "for the community, by the community) and is actively trying to build his own 60% board that he's claimed is better than the GH60, but we're still supporting him with buying switches through him?

I wish mouser did whites.

To answer the question above, mouser sells blacks/blues/clears in pcb and plate mount.

RS (http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/664581/?cm_mmc=aff-_-uk-_-octopart-_-664581), Conrad (http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/product/706351/Cherry-Switches-12-VDC-button-module-MX1A-A1NN-Without-locating-pin-NA-001-A) (Conrad UK (http://www.conrad-uk.com/ce/en/product/706351/Cherry-Switches-12-VDC-button-module-MX1A-A1NN-Without-locating-pin-NA-001-A)), and Rapid (http://www.rapidonline.com/electronic-components/cherry-12-v-dc-button-module-mx1a-a1nn-50-2495) sell them, the problem is getting them shipped at a decent price.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:40:58
Pexon just had some MX Dark Greys. I wonder if his source can supply switches for this GB? Pexon, are you listening?

I'll ping him later unless someone else wants to first. :)
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:44:07
What's GH60++? D:

It's a GH60 you program with C++

jk :P
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:45:37
It's a GH60 you program with C++

jk :P

You had me for a second! That would horrible :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:46:34
It's a GH60 you program with C++

jk :P

You had me for a second! That would horrible :(

It's basically the Gh60 but a 75% format. I still don't know why they just don't call it the Gh75...... ???
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:48:15
It's basically the Gh60 but a 75% format. I still don't know why they just don't call it the Gh75...... ???

Thanks! Not interested in one if those :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 08 April 2013, 19:51:35
Pexon just had some MX Dark Greys. I wonder if his source can supply switches for this GB? Pexon, are you listening?

I'll ping him later unless someone else wants to first. :)

I tried asking, both in the IC and GB thread.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rknize on Mon, 08 April 2013, 20:02:02
It's a GH60 you program with C++

jk :P

You had me for a second! That would horrible :(

It's basically the Gh60 but a 75% format. I still don't know why they just don't call it the Gh75...... ???

Well if you look at the OP, there were several variations on the theme with the possibility of break away parts of the PCB.  If you break all of them off you end up at 60%.  If you leave them on it's 75%.

Anyway...it is very early on still for that one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 08 April 2013, 20:06:31
I drank the KoolAid and ordered my goodies finally! :D

Eager/impatient face engaged
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 08 April 2013, 21:19:15
It's a GH60 you program with C++

jk :P

You had me for a second! That would horrible :(

It's basically the Gh60 but a 75% format. I still don't know why they just don't call it the Gh75...... ???

"They" DO call the 75% version the GH75!

The GH60++ covers the GH65 (GH60 + arrows and an extra column), the GH75 (GH65 + function keys and a few more), and technically, the unloved GH70 variation that adds a function key row to the GH60.

GH60++ thread:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38847.msg754842#msg754842

Current state of assembly:
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=31861.0;attach=16083;image)
Latest prototype GH75 by samwisekoi. 
Keycaps by Lysol, mkawa & i3oilermaker.  Custom free-standing plate/case by The_Beast & Advanced Welding, Inc.


 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 08 April 2013, 22:23:30
So forgive me for starting ****, but 7bit doesn't support GH like at all(this is important for a keyboard that's "for the community, by the community) and is actively trying to build his own 60% board that he's claimed is better than the GH60, but we're still supporting him with buying switches through him?

I wish mouser did whites.

To answer the question above, mouser sells blacks/blues/clears in pcb and plate mount.

he is trolling you, do you think he actually cares about the gh60 that much? he's not a bad dude he just has a weird sense of humor, dont take it so personally

Eh, fair enough.  I have issues with deciphering foreign country humor anyways.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 09 April 2013, 01:31:50
Anyway I can get an order confirmation?  Gonna have to remove the switches I assume.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 01:39:26
Anyway I can get an order confirmation?  Gonna have to remove the switches I assume.

Sent you a PM with your order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: hankz on Tue, 09 April 2013, 02:09:05
what kind you will chose to ship GH60 to everyone, EMS, UPS?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 09 April 2013, 09:54:54
Samwise that looks fantastic!  Can't wait for raindrop...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tym on Tue, 09 April 2013, 09:58:47
Hope one day you release the GH104 :D Even if its just for me :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Chase5delta on Tue, 09 April 2013, 10:02:35
Any of you guys happen to have a plastic poker case lying around that you would be willing to sell? I'm having no luck in classifieds :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 09 April 2013, 10:16:45
I have a white spray painted one if you're interested
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:02:55
Just caught wind of the thing with the switches and 7bit.

Let me make sure I got this straight. I can either go to DT and preorder from 7bit, indicating that I want my stuff shipped to the GH60 group buy staff, for around 40€ ($52) for 65 switches. In this case I'm basically paying 7bit instead of you guys for the switches, and nothing else changes.

OR

Do nothing, sit on my buttocks, and you guys order the keys from 7bit after payment is collected next month, which could incur in severe shipping delays of the assembled board, perhaps several months.

Correct?

I'm not 100% sure I can find enough money before the order deadline to pay for switches. Getting into this GB required extensive budget fiddling with the goal of having enough money around the 10th of next month. Unfortunately, it ended up meaning I have little to no spare cash at all before that. I won't bore you with my financial details.

Worst case, I'll have to wait however long it takes for you guys to order and receive the switches after next month's payment is down. Best case, we (the GH60 staff and me) could somehow reach an agreement involving me ordering the switches from 7bit between now and at some point next month, depending on my cash flow, and have them delivered to you.

What would you prefer I do? I'd also like to take as much work off your hands as I can. Organizing this must be administrative hell.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:05:48
Hold off on the switches for a bit, everyone. We may have a new supplier in the works.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tym on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:07:39
From the UK ? :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:08:28
Was going to place my order today...deciding between whites and greens...guess ill just wait more i guess

let us know when we have a definite supplier of switches! 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:09:40
From the UK ? :D

From Taiwan :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: disperse on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:37:02
OK, my mouse pointer is hovering over the "Submit" button on the order form.  Just want to make sure I'm making the right decisions here.

I have the DSA Retro key caps ordered and am thinking about configuring a Poker layout like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/N2EbTCd.png)

With the GH60 software will it be possible to configure the "HYPER" key to act as an Escape key when pressed and a Fn key when held?  (I was inspired by http://brettterpstra.com/2012/12/08/a-useful-caps-lock-key/)

I have heard good things about the plate mounted costar stabilizers but am concerned about this:  "You might need to do a little bit of sanding or grinding, as the plate is 0.0625" thick, and Costar spec is for 0.060"  I have a random orbital sander but will stainless steel really sand with some 80 grit sandpaper?

Am I going to save myself a lot of hassle by getting the Cherry Plate mounted stabilizers?

I'm looking at:

1 x GH60 PCB
1 x Poker Plate
63 x Plate-mounted Brown Cherry X Switches (a few spares)
6.25 spacebar wire
1 x Costar plate-mount stabilizers set OR 1 x Cherry plate-mount stabilizers set

Does this seem reasonable?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:40:50
OK, my mouse pointer is hovering over the "Submit" button on the order form.  Just want to make sure I'm making the right decisions here.

I have the DSA Retro key caps ordered and am thinking about configuring a Poker layout like this:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/N2EbTCd.png)


With the GH60 software will it be possible to configure the "HYPER" key to act as an Escape key when pressed and a Fn key when held?  (I was inspired by http://brettterpstra.com/2012/12/08/a-useful-caps-lock-key/)

I have heard good things about the plate mounted costar stabilizers but am concerned about this:  "You might need to do a little bit of sanding or grinding, as the plate is 0.0625" thick, and Costar spec is for 0.060"  I have a random orbital sander but will stainless steel really sand with some 80 grit sandpaper?

Am I going to save myself a lot of hassle by getting the Cherry Plate mounted stabilizers?

I'm looking at:

1 x GH60 PCB
1 x Poker Plate
63 x Plate-mounted Brown Cherry X Switches (a few spares)
6.25 spacebar wire
1 x Costar plate-mount stabilizers set OR 1 x Cherry plate-mount stabilizers set

Does this seem reasonable?


Yes, that order looks good. You can order it assembled or you can install and solder the switches yourself.

I have made the Costar stabilizers work on these plates before without sanding or grinding, you just have to push the legs into place with something. With a bit of filing with a flat needle file, I hear they work great.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Luke on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:47:05
It's a GH60 you program with C++

jk :P

You had me for a second! That would horrible :(

It's basically the Gh60 but a 75% format. I still don't know why they just don't call it the Gh75...... ???

"They" DO call the 75% version the GH75!

The GH60++ covers the GH65 (GH60 + arrows and an extra column), the GH75 (GH65 + function keys and a few more), and technically, the unloved GH70 variation that adds a function key row to the GH60.

GH60++ thread:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38847.msg754842#msg754842

Current state of assembly:
Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=31861.0;attach=16083;image)

Latest prototype GH75 by samwisekoi. 
Keycaps by Lysol, mkawa & i3oilermaker.  Custom free-standing plate/case by The_Beast & Advanced Welding, Inc.


 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)


Damn, just bought a MX-Mini :P

But to be fair it was for a very reasonable price so I can't complain :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: disperse on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:52:00
OK, my mouse pointer is hovering over the "Submit" button on the order form.  Just want to make sure I'm making the right decisions here.

I have the DSA Retro key caps ordered and am thinking about configuring a Poker layout like this:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/N2EbTCd.png)


With the GH60 software will it be possible to configure the "HYPER" key to act as an Escape key when pressed and a Fn key when held?  (I was inspired by http://brettterpstra.com/2012/12/08/a-useful-caps-lock-key/)

I have heard good things about the plate mounted costar stabilizers but am concerned about this:  "You might need to do a little bit of sanding or grinding, as the plate is 0.0625" thick, and Costar spec is for 0.060"  I have a random orbital sander but will stainless steel really sand with some 80 grit sandpaper?

Am I going to save myself a lot of hassle by getting the Cherry Plate mounted stabilizers?

I'm looking at:

1 x GH60 PCB
1 x Poker Plate
63 x Plate-mounted Brown Cherry X Switches (a few spares)
6.25 spacebar wire
1 x Costar plate-mount stabilizers set OR 1 x Cherry plate-mount stabilizers set

Does this seem reasonable?


Yes, that order looks good. You can order it assembled or you can install and solder the switches yourself.

I have made the Costar stabilizers work on these plates before without sanding or grinding, you just have to push the legs into place with something. With a bit of filing with a flat needle file, I hear they work great.

Thanks!  I placed the order.  I'm pretty handy at soldering and want to get the practice in case I need to replace a broken switch so I ordered it unassembled (not a DIY kit, I'm not a masochist).

I'll probably be pulling out my router and making a wooden case when everything arrives.  If anyone has detailed measurements, it would be appreciated.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 09 April 2013, 11:58:40
Wooden case/tray sounds awesome. I think Beast was working on something like that too?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mbreslin on Tue, 09 April 2013, 12:50:34
Hold off on the switches for a bit, everyone. We may have a new supplier in the works.

Now you tell me! He has the GH60 tag in the OP so it seemed everything was arranged. Already ordered and paid.

 :confused:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 09 April 2013, 13:01:42
Hold off on the switches for a bit, everyone. We may have a new supplier in the works.

Are you saying that our orders through theProf aren't going to come in?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 13:02:48
komar worked with 7bit to get that GH60 tag setup. Thanks, komar!

If you already ordered switches through 7bit, or want to continue ordering through his system on Deskthority, please feel free to do so. 7bit is a reliable source for these switches, and is offering them at great prices for pre-orders.

If you already have, or want to continue to order switches through this GB, it looks like we may have found another supplier who can help us. We are still in the process of working out all the details, so stay tuned for more information.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 09 April 2013, 14:37:14
Would you recommend we hold off on buying switches for a little bit?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Broadmonkey on Tue, 09 April 2013, 14:38:41
Why do we need a new supplier instead of 7bit?
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 14:43:05
Because this.

Important update - please read
Update on the switches (very important!)
We were going to order the switches from 7bit @ deskthority for you. But the prices of switches are going up and he has to pay 100% for preorders. Buying preordered switches is cheaper, but we are not collecting payments yet and payment for the switches is due soon.
I'm worried that if we collect your money for the switches and pay together it might be too late and the groupbuy will be delayed.

That's why my proposition is that if you want to make sure you get your switches along with the GH60, remove your switch order from the order form (by submitting the "order changes" form) and go to http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html) and place your order according to the info there.
You can either have the switches shipped to you (independently from GH60) or we can arrange something with 7bit so that you get them together with GH60 and save shipping (that's the only option for those who checked "assembly" in the order form, of course).
I will post details about it soon.

If you can't pay for switches now or don't want to bother ordering directly from 7bit, you can leave your order as it it. We will then order the switches for you when the money is fully collected, but the prices might be a tad higher and the switches may come later.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Lastpilot on Tue, 09 April 2013, 15:47:55
Made this to help give your first post some bling!

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: sth on Tue, 09 April 2013, 16:46:21
no bevel :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 09 April 2013, 17:01:30
What do you think the per unit price for Whites will be?  I'm still on the fence between spending too much and buying some Whites and tossing the springs from my Clears into some Reds I have (since there's no name for that yet that I've seen, I am naming them Ghost Reds).  If it's not too expensive, I'll probably get some.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 09 April 2013, 19:46:57
Just to confirm: the GH60 (max keys) layout can be achieved with the universal plate, correct?

Is there any advantage to the GH60 plate?  I feel like if a plate can use every key position (the universal plate) it should be basically the same as the plate that uses maximum keys (the GH60 plate).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 09 April 2013, 19:52:32
Is Last Pilot's design going to be a sticker option? i would get one maybe to go along with the main design
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Tue, 09 April 2013, 19:52:40
Just to confirm: the GH60 (max keys) layout can be achieved with the universal plate, correct?

Is there any advantage to the GH60 plate?  I feel like if a plate can use every key position (the universal plate) it should be basically the same as the plate that uses maximum keys (the GH60 plate).

The specialized plates have cutouts specific to the layout where as the universal plate has spots that are widened to fit multiple configurations and the switch will not be as secure. These insecure positions are recommended to have pcb mount switches.

It is something to be aware of although the plate mount switches should electrically connect.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 19:58:30
Is Last Pilot's design going to be a sticker option? i would get one maybe to go along with the main design

Lastpilot's design will be THE official sticker design, and will be offered separately from this GB.

I should suggest to komar that he use that design on the final PCB revision, huh?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 09 April 2013, 20:00:06
Is Last Pilot's design going to be a sticker option? i would get one maybe to go along with the main design

Lastpilot's design will be THE official sticker design, and will be offered separately from this GB.

I should suggest to komar that he use that design on the final PCB revision, huh?

Looks good to me. i guess i meant to say Color, and not Design, since that design was posted in another thread (i think right?)

regardless looks cool. final gonna be all pink? :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: aggiejy on Tue, 09 April 2013, 22:10:26
A brushed aluminum looking sticker would be cool... though perhaps too detailed on the keyboard.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: aggiejy on Tue, 09 April 2013, 22:15:27
But if I'm not typing on mine by this Fall...  :-*

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 09 April 2013, 22:24:56
aggiejy, that first one looks really nice. Clean, yet not boring. I'm not digging the rust or the ice though. That ice looks a bit fake lol.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 09 April 2013, 22:28:55
So, any guesstimate on switch prices?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 09 April 2013, 22:35:37
From the GH60 Metallic Sticker thread...i like both those colors..i also like Aggiejy's...and the pink one

One of everything for me!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: aggiejy on Tue, 09 April 2013, 22:36:24
aggiejy, that first one looks really nice. Clean, yet not boring. I'm not digging the rust or the ice though. That ice looks a bit fake lol.

Haha, the rust and ice was a gaudy attempt as a lame joke... ie, SEND ME MY PCB before hell freezes over! ;-)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 09 April 2013, 22:37:37
What do you think the per unit price for Whites will be?  I'm still on the fence between spending too much and buying some Whites and tossing the springs from my Clears into some Reds I have (since there's no name for that yet that I've seen, I am naming them Ghost Reds).  If it's not too expensive, I'll probably get some.
So, any guesstimate on switch prices?

We're still working on it. You're welcome to order directly from 7bit on DT, but we're no longer integrating preorders with this GB. What I have NOT posted yet was that he increased in preorder prices (compared to what I previously mentioned in the OP), and they will be even higher once preorders are over. Also MOQ for each switch was increased to 4000. This is straight from 7bit.

We're working on another source right now, and if it works out, it should be either same or cheaper than the lowest price I have linked in the OP right now (60cents per switch). We still need to account for added fees and shipping though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rurushu on Tue, 09 April 2013, 23:13:54
Is Last Pilot's design going to be a sticker option? i would get one maybe to go along with the main design

Lastpilot's design will be THE official sticker design, and will be offered separately from this GB.

I should suggest to komar that he use that design on the final PCB revision, huh?
this would be awesome!!!! was going to suggest that! nice one jdcarpe!

A brushed aluminum looking sticker would be cool... though perhaps too detailed on the keyboard.

(Attachment Link)
this looks good! i think if it is a plate, it would be perfect! like the one jdcarpe make to put on his alu case!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: 7bit on Wed, 10 April 2013, 06:30:05
We're still working on it. You're welcome to order directly from 7bit on DT, but we're no longer integrating preorders with this GB. What I have NOT posted yet was that he increased in preorder prices (compared to what I previously mentioned in the OP), and they will be even higher once preorders are over. Also MOQ for each switch was increased to 4000. This is straight from 7bit.

We're working on another source right now, and if it works out, it should be either same or cheaper than the lowest price I have linked in the OP right now (60cents per switch). We still need to account for added fees and shipping though.
Shipping from me to the distributors is free and I doubt there will be another source except you find old stock.

Preorder prices:
They where and are 0.54 EUR per switch. Within this group buy, I will not raise these prices, unless Cherry raises their price even more.

The 0.27 EUR per switch where 50% pre-payments which don't work out when I've got to order 4000 of a type instead of just 1000. So, I'm asking now for 100% payment.

I still wait for an answer if the MOQ can be a bit lower. Higher price and a higher MOQ is really a bit too much. With the amount of money that went in I can only order 3 different types of switches (12000 in total).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 10 April 2013, 23:02:31
Can I request a PM to confirm my order is what I'd like it to be?  I've made a few modifications to my order since I placed it, so I just want to make sure everything is what it should be.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 11 April 2013, 07:01:00
Just placed an order for PCB mount stabilizers :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 11 April 2013, 10:19:32
Can I request a PM to confirm my order is what I'd like it to be?  I've made a few modifications to my order since I placed it, so I just want to make sure everything is what it should be.

Sent you a PM. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 11 April 2013, 10:23:55
If it becomes reality, it looks like alixinhzai (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16908) has brought my Acrylic case to life, and quite nicely, too.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/20923_355899284531027_953751514_o.jpg)

So unless that case (thread here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40468.msg802930#msg802930)) doesn't happen, I'm asking my supporters to switch to alixinhzai.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Sai on Thu, 11 April 2013, 10:26:04
If it becomes reality, it looks like alixinhzai (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16908) has brought my Acrylic case to life, and quite nicely, too.

Show Image
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/20923_355899284531027_953751514_o.jpg)


So unless that case (thread here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40468.msg802930#msg802930)) doesn't happen, I'm asking my supporters to switch to alixinhzai.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Show Image
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)


yep. i am switching to him. just asking him for w/r/w case like LZ. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 11 April 2013, 11:20:01
yep. i am switching to him. just asking him for w/r/w case like LZ. :D

Probably faster shipping to you, too.  Please post a review once you get yours!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Sai on Thu, 11 April 2013, 11:24:25
yes, sir. I'll try to do the review.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Wraul on Thu, 11 April 2013, 12:32:17
Could someone please pm me my order.
I would like to check if I need to do any last minute changes.

Also I like to clarify that I'm fully aware that the stabilizers come in complete sets.
And yes I have order quite a lot of them. I might even add a couple more.
Better safe than sorry. You never know when you might need a stabilizer.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 11 April 2013, 12:49:04
So has it been figured out about how this GB might proceed with the 10x spacebar layout plates?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: osxoep on Thu, 11 April 2013, 16:43:53
Just to confirm, I've posted a request to change my order to:

0 x Switches
2 x GH60 PCBs
1 x ISO 1.5x (Pure Shift) Plate
1 x Cherry Plate Stabs
1 x Cherry PCB Stabs

I've already got another source for switches, so except a USB cable, case and keycaps, that's all I need?
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 12 April 2013, 07:58:27
Just to confirm,
I've already got another source for switches, so except a USB cable, case and keycaps, that's all I need?
You are correct. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 12 April 2013, 08:22:15
Could someone please pm me my order.
I would like to check if I need to do any last minute changes.

Also I like to clarify that I'm fully aware that the stabilizers come in complete sets.
And yes I have order quite a lot of them. I might even add a couple more.
Better safe than sorry. You never know when you might need a stabilizer.

Sent you a PM. :)


Just to confirm, I've posted a request to change my order to:

0 x Switches
2 x GH60 PCBs
1 x ISO 1.5x (Pure Shift) Plate
1 x Cherry Plate Stabs
1 x Cherry PCB Stabs

I've already got another source for switches, so except a USB cable, case and keycaps, that's all I need?

Yes, that's what I have for your order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 12 April 2013, 08:50:06
So has it been figured out about how this GB might proceed with the 10x spacebar layout plates?

Retro DSA recently caused me to spend some time looking at the specs for spacebars of many lengths, and I think we could create a GH60 plate that would support various long bars.  Specifically 8x, 9x, 9.75x, and 10x, which share some/all mounting dimensions.

(Yes, those people who think their 10x is only 9.75x long -- it IS only 9.75x long.  Those are from WYSE terminal boards.  They will fit on the same mounts, but there will be visible gaps on the bottom row.)

Anyhow, jdcarpe was going to/has sent me the DWG for the long spacebar plate.  I'll take that and check it against the list of spacebars above and possibly make adjustments so as many as possible will fit on the GH60.

Then, because it would look extra-awesome, we'll include long spacebars in the Retro Green/Blue GB so that people can make GH60 versions of the Nuclear Data boards.

FWIW,

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: bugsaint on Fri, 12 April 2013, 08:53:35
Order submitted for:

1x PCB
1x Poker plate
1x Plate mounted cherry stabilizers (6.25 wire)
1x Asssembly service.

As I'm in the UK, I'll get the switches from 7bit (used him before and happy to use him again) and tag the order with GH60 so they get shipped to Komar... I assume.

Now to source an (any non plastic) case.  Ideas?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 12 April 2013, 08:56:03
So has it been figured out about how this GB might proceed with the 10x spacebar layout plates?

Then, because it would look extra-awesome, we'll include long spacebars in the Retro Green/Blue GB so that people can make GH60 versions of the Nuclear Data boards.


^This!  Yes, Please!    :cool:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 12 April 2013, 12:29:17
Just submitted an order for two complete ISO sets.

My poor wallet...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 12 April 2013, 12:31:00
Going to submit my order soon for 1 WKL Setup and 1 Regular Poker setup

i have put so much thought and time into this order...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 12 April 2013, 12:39:18
So has it been figured out about how this GB might proceed with the 10x spacebar layout plates?
10x spacebar layout plates?
10x spacebar layout plates
10x spacebar layout
10x spacebar
10x

/sploosh

If there is going to be a plate that supports 10x spacebar I mush have it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:20:10
I think we should add this plate (I can add ISO version as well), which supports bottom row layouts of:

1.50-1.00-10.00-1.00-1.50

1.25-1.25-10.00-1.25-1.25

1.50-1.00-1.50-7.00-1.50-1.00-1.50


(http://i.imgur.com/HppIxBO.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:35:03
I understand if this is a no, but would it be possible to just change the bottom row of the following plates to that bottom row: ANSI 1.5, ANSI 1.5 Pure, ISO 1.5, ISO 1.5 Pure?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:37:00
I would think it could replace any of the 1.5x plates, including "True HHKB" etc.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:38:41
Too many plates! AHH!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Index on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:40:53
Can someone pm my order? Need to make sure I ordered the correct items. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:46:23
I would think it could replace any of the 1.5x plates, including "True HHKB" etc.
Mhm, mhm. I like where this is going.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: whiskytango on Fri, 12 April 2013, 14:01:47
I would think it could replace any of the 1.5x plates, including "True HHKB" etc.

Excellent idea! I believe WFD was talking about this possibility earlier in the thread. I would love to see this, it would make my decision on what to order somewhat easier. I have been holding off so far so I don't end up asking for a million order changes...

jd, if/when this decision is made, can you post it? I will go ahead and make a final order decision at that time. Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 12 April 2013, 14:08:37
So the 1.5x plate is being removed and a 10x spacebar plate is replacing it? :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 12 April 2013, 14:08:44
I think 1.25 1.25 10 1.25 1.25 with 1.75x shift and 1x to the right of shift would be ideal for me. Although 1.5 1x 10 1 1.5 is also  enticing, but harder to have a 1x alt key. As long as I can use one of my  10x spacebars I have sitting around I'll be quite happy. I'll hold off on order changing until the plate options supporting 10x spacebar are solidified.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 12 April 2013, 14:09:07
I think we should add this plate (I can add ISO version as well), which supports bottom row layouts of:

1.50-1.00-10.00-1.00-1.50

1.25-1.25-10.00-1.25-1.25

1.50-1.00-1.50-7.00-1.50-1.00-1.50


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HppIxBO.png)


Thank jdcarpe for the DWG file.

Comparing that with documents from DT and SP,  I can confirm that this plate will work for 7x Cherry and 10x Cherry.  Also you could fit a 9.75 Wyse with small gaps, and an 8x spacebar, although I don't know if there is a mod combo on the PCB that adds up to 3.5 on each side (e.g. 1.5-1-1 or 1.25-1-1.25.)

SP has molds for 8x and 9x, and I have requested mounting specs for those to see if they will fit as well.

I agree that this plate ought to be made, and also that perhaps it should have "universal" mounts for the mods.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 12 April 2013, 14:37:50
I already have all the plate designs worked out after this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg845617#msg845617) post, so here's what is happening:

All plates with 1.5x modifier spacing will have additional cutouts for a 10x (also 8x and 9x) spacebar. Meaning it's compatible with both 7x - 10x spacebars. There is also a "universal" plate that supports every layout except ones with inner 1.25x modifiers. It's basically the same exact one as this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg844848#msg844848) post but with cuttouts for 7x spacebar, which is almost identical to the one jdcarpe just posted. This will probably be special made one since I don't imagine will get high quantity orders. I tried to integrate this with the current universal plate, but the overlaps make this impossible.

The replica HHKB layout with 6x offset spacebar can just use the current univeral plate design, it's perfectly compatible.

I'll post a pic this new plate and updated plates when I get home. I already sent the universal plate design for prototype.
 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: noxwood on Fri, 12 April 2013, 20:02:53
If I want just a split backspace on US-ANSI, will HHKB work or will I have to go for ANSI-UNI?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 12 April 2013, 21:29:13
Quick question...while i make final edits..

Fug Costars

Which Cherrys Should i go for?

is there a huge difference between PCB mounted and Plate Mounted? My Pure and Poker both have PCB...but would Plate mounted be better?

looking for opinions yall
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 12 April 2013, 21:43:54
If you have a plate, might as well take advantage of using plate-mounted stabilizers. Also, you can swap them out much easier. If you use PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers, it's impossible to remove without desoldering all your switches and taking off the plate. If you don't use a plate, then well, you don't really have a choice. And also the universal plate doesn't give you a choice either, you need to use PCB-mounted cherries.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: L4yercake on Fri, 12 April 2013, 21:44:08
I believe plate-mounted to be superior then the PCB mounted. Mainly because it feels more stable and I've had errors with PCB mount and nothing has ever come with the plate-mounted.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 12 April 2013, 22:07:13
If you have a plate, might as well take advantage of using plate-mounted stabilizers. Also, you can swap them out much easier. If you use PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers, it's impossible to remove without desoldering all your switches and taking off the plate. If you don't use a plate, then well, you don't really have a choice. And also the universal plate doesn't give you a choice either, you need to use PCB-mounted cherries.

will have a plate for my WinKeyless GH60

and if i can afford a second, will have a plate for my 'poker' style GH60

so i should go with plate mounted?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 12 April 2013, 22:35:47
If anyone wants some 10x space bars... I've got lots of them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: fl0w3n on Fri, 12 April 2013, 22:45:57
Is PCB Mount Cherry Stabilizers really that big of a "drawback" on the universal plates, or is the "drawback" part the lack of options?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 12 April 2013, 22:49:26
one last thing...what's the difference between the Universal ANSI plate and the Poker Plate?

if i want a standard poker layout...i should get a poker plate correct

(herp derp question)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 12 April 2013, 22:51:45
one last thing...what's the difference between the Universal ANSI plate and the Poker Plate?

if i want a standard poker layout...i should get a poker plate correct

(herp derp question)

As far as I understand, the universal will allow the poker layout PLUS other options should you so desire.  But if you know that you want a poker layout and are never going to change that, you might as well get the poker plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 12 April 2013, 23:48:06
How do i know if i did my order right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rurushu on Fri, 12 April 2013, 23:55:45
How do i know if i did my order right?
can PM the organizers...  :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: naokira on Sat, 13 April 2013, 04:36:32
does the gh60 come with a dipswitch? because i'm thinking of getting one but im going to use it on a mac.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 13 April 2013, 06:56:43
Not like the ones in Poker, but I don't think mac support will be a problem.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 13 April 2013, 19:30:25
How do i know if i did my order right?
can PM the organizers...  :D

Which one?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rurushu on Sun, 14 April 2013, 03:47:58
WhiteFireDragon, jdcarpe, komar007....
basically those who run this GB....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: guilleguillaume on Sun, 14 April 2013, 05:15:59
I have yet to decide how much PCB units I want. I still have some days left...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: JBert on Sun, 14 April 2013, 14:21:43
Can an ANSI Poker be converted to ISO without having to buy new Cherry stabilizers?
I think the Return key might still work when the stabilizer is mounted 90º, but what about the shift keys?

Also, what if you want to add to your order, is that an "order change" or a new order under the same forum name?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Sun, 14 April 2013, 14:27:04
Can an ANSI Poker be converted to ISO without having to buy new Cherry stabilizers?
I think the Return key might still work when the stabilizer is mounted 90º, but what about the shift keys?

Also, what if you want to add to your order, is that an "order change" or a new order under the same forum name?
Left shift doesn't have any stabilizers in ISO layout and right shift is the same I think.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 14 April 2013, 14:48:44
Also, what if you want to add to your order, is that an "order change" or a new order under the same forum name?

Yes, please submit an order change. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:34:41
How's the thing with the switches going? Is the goddess of cherry mx providing smiling upon us?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:40:54
How's the thing with the switches going? Is the goddess of cherry mx providing smiling upon us?

Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: vorn on Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:49:39
Nice!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:50:27
How's the thing with the switches going? Is the goddess of cherry mx providing smiling upon us?

Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.

Awesome! MX Blue will be fine, thanks. I got 65 of them in the order, I believe.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:54:32
Nice! 11 or so cents cheaper than 7bits. I'll change my order for some greens
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:56:45
How's the thing with the switches going? Is the goddess of cherry mx providing smiling upon us?

Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.
So should we re-add switches to our orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 14 April 2013, 15:58:38
Yes, please go ahead at this time with any switch orders. :D

We need the volume to get those prices. ;)
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:00:30
Please add 60 MX Green to my order. Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:05:16
By the way, does anyone have a spare poker sized case lying around? I'm not confident I'll be able to afford one of those fancy aluminum cases by the time they hit GB phase  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:05:34
Please add 60 MX Green to my order. Thanks.

Done. Everyone please use the order change form if you want to add switches back to your order. ORDER CHANGES (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: osxoep on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:10:12
Well ****.

That's cheaper than what I'm getting. Might have to see how this plays out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:28:45
Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.

Tactile gray, linear dark gray, or both??
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:30:36
Tactile gray, linear dark gray, or both??

Grey is Grey, and never Dark Grey. Tactile only. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:31:01
How's the thing with the switches going? Is the goddess of cherry mx providing smiling upon us?

Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.

X( I want MX whites

Should I order from 7bit? And send them to you? Tell him to send to you? What do? Fug I hate when the plans change :( 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: disperse on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:31:16
Please add 60 MX Green to my order. Thanks.

Done. Everyone please use the order change form if you want to add switches back to your order. ORDER CHANGES (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform)

If we already had switches listed we don't need to change anything, right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:34:37
If you already had switches in your order, we will fill them.

If you have MX White or MX Clear in your order, we will fill those by ordering from 7bit. Or you can choose to order them from 7bit yourself, and have them sent to us, using the tag "GH60." See his thread on Deskthority here (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html).
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:35:08
Tactile gray, linear dark gray, or both??

Grey is Grey, and never Dark Grey. Tactile only. :D

True, but I've seen people using it wrong before (not you). I wanted to clarify so people knew they could do ergo clears by using mx gray instead.

Thank You :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:36:50
Tactile gray, linear dark gray, or both??

Grey is Grey, and never Dark Grey. Tactile only. :D

True, but I've seen people using it wrong before (not you). I wanted to clarify so people knew they could do ergo clears by using mx gray instead.

Good point, and thanks for bringing that up. The MX Grey stem is identical to the MX Clear stem, so if you were planning on making Ergo Clears using MX Clear stems with light springs, you can do the same using MX Greys.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:38:12
If you already had switches in your order, we will fill them.

If you have MX White or MX Clear in your order, we will fill those by ordering from 7bit. Or you can choose to order them from 7bit yourself, and have them sent to us, using the tag "GH60." See his thread on Deskthority here (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html).

So I can still put MX whites on my order? Only difference will be a bit more expensive and take longer?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:40:02
So I can still put MX whites on my order? Only difference will be a bit more expensive and take longer?

Correct.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:44:54
So I can still put MX whites on my order? Only difference will be a bit more expensive and take longer?

Correct.

Ok cool .. Would ordering myself from 7bot make a difference time wise?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:47:56
So I can still put MX whites on my order? Only difference will be a bit more expensive and take longer?

Correct.

Ok cool .. Would ordering myself from 7bot make a difference time wise?

It will make a difference if you are able to order in his "pre-order" batch, instead of waiting until the end of the GH60 GB. If you don't get your order in the pre-order batch, you might be waiting some months after the GH60s arrive for your switches to arrive.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:55:43
So I can still put MX whites on my order? Only difference will be a bit more expensive and take longer?

Correct.

Ok cool .. Would ordering myself from 7bot make a difference time wise?

It will make a difference if you are able to order in his "pre-order" batch, instead of waiting until the end of the GH60 GB. If you don't get your order in the pre-order batch, you might be waiting some months after the GH60s arrive for your switches to arrive.

:0 looks like I'm going for the pre-order batch. When I get em, can I send em to you to hold onto for the gh60? 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 14 April 2013, 16:56:59
So I can still put MX whites on my order? Only difference will be a bit more expensive and take longer?

Correct.

Ok cool .. Would ordering myself from 7bot make a difference time wise?

It will make a difference if you are able to order in his "pre-order" batch, instead of waiting until the end of the GH60 GB. If you don't get your order in the pre-order batch, you might be waiting some months after the GH60s arrive for your switches to arrive.

:0 looks like I'm going for the pre-order batch. When I get em, can I send em to you to hold onto for the gh60? 

Instead of your address, put "GH60" in the order PM to his script.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:00:50
:) ok

Gotta talk to you tonigh about some other things too, I'm jug at work right now and in my phone :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: thoere on Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:06:13
How much do MX Clears cost for each switch in this GB? Also what size is the spacebar on the HHKB layout?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:10:21
How much do MX Clears cost for each switch in this GB?

If you order them yourself, directly from 7bit on Deskthority, they are currently at a pre-order price of 0.54 EUR, or $0.71/ea. If you order them from this GB, and we aren't able to get them from 7bit at pre-order prices, they will be 0.65 EUR, or $0.86/ea. Either way, you can have them sent to the GH60 organizers for assembly.

Our other supplier cannot provide MX Clears or MX Whites.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:24:34
If you're desperate for clear switches, I'll probably be getting some that are desoldered from keyboards. They're not directly offered in this GB because they're not brand new. Brand new ones still need to be directly from 7bit unless we can find some.

I really wish we could have gotten some white switches. Those are the only ones I really wanted too :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:47:36
If you're desperate for clear switches, I'll probably be getting some that are desoldered from keyboards. They're not directly offered in this GB because they're not brand new. Brand new ones still need to be directly from 7bit unless we can find some.

I really wish we could have gotten some white switches. Those are the only ones I really wanted too :/

I'm getting 2 gh60s (hopefully)

Main one will have whites, and the second one will have greens.

:( I'm sad too.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: salmo on Sun, 14 April 2013, 17:59:22
I gave in and added switches and a plate to my order through the change form.  If someone gets a chance, could they PM me with my full order and the estimated grand total post-change.  Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: thoere on Sun, 14 April 2013, 18:19:45
Oh and sorry to ask so many questions but for the HHKB layout, where do I get the top plate?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: osxoep on Sun, 14 April 2013, 18:28:55
I've been searching and if people want to, there are White switches (Plate mounted) on Conrad-uk.com for £0.36 ($0.55) per switch when ordering over 500, with free delivery (because it's over £67).

I have no idea how much postage would be for an individual to then split the order up and resend out to other people, but it may be worth looking into.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 14 April 2013, 18:47:39
What kind of volume do we need for switches (Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Gray) to be priced @ $0.60/ea?
Oh and will they be offered in PCB, Plate mount, or both?

PS - For anyone wanting ergo clears, you can buy gray switches instead. The stems are identical.

^ light grey  ;)

Yes, gray switches are a lighter gray, but their names are mx gray and mx dark gray. Dark gray will also not be offered :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cyberwave on Sun, 14 April 2013, 18:51:23
^ light grey  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:03:59
I already have all the plate designs worked out after this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg845617#msg845617) post, so here's what is happening:

All plates with 1.5x modifier spacing will have additional cutouts for a 10x (also 8x and 9x) spacebar. Meaning it's compatible with both 7x - 10x spacebars. There is also a "universal" plate that supports every layout except ones with inner 1.25x modifiers. It's basically the same exact one as this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg844848#msg844848) post but with cuttouts for 7x spacebar, which is almost identical to the one jdcarpe just posted. This will probably be special made one since I don't imagine will get high quantity orders. I tried to integrate this with the current universal plate, but the overlaps make this impossible.

The replica HHKB layout with 6x offset spacebar can just use the current univeral plate design, it's perfectly compatible.

I'll post a pic this new plate and updated plates when I get home. I already sent the universal plate design for prototype.

Maybe it is just me, but I don't think all of the spacebars listed will work.  I agree that they will all fit on the plate, but I think there will be odd gaps with most of them.  I hope I am wrong, but I think only the following spacebars will work:

6.25x (1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25)
7x (1.5x - 1x - 1.5x - 7x - 1.5x - 1x - 1.5x)
10x (1.5x - 1x - 10x - 1x - 1.5x)

Here is the best representation of the available key size combinations on the GH60 I could derive from available information in all of the threads:

[attachimg=1]
GH60 Spacebar/mod position availability in Rev. B

The black shows the standard ANSI 7 * 1.25 mods with a 6.25 spacebar.  The green shows the Cherry standard 7.00 spacebar with 1.50 modifiers and 1.00 modifiers or filler plates.  They both work normally.

By adding the additional stabilizer mounts outside of those for the 7x spacebar, a long list of spacebars will fit on the plate, but only the 10x, shown in dark red, fits without a gap to a 1.00 / 1.50 pair on each end.

However, the 8x shown in pink and the 9x shown in blue leave gaps between the keycaps.  The 9x could work if a pair of 1.50 keycaps could be mounted on each end, but I believe the second-to-right position can only be 1.00 or 1.25.

So, as is, the GH60 supports 6.25, 7x and 10x spacebars.  If a pair of 1.50 keycaps can be mounted on each end, then additionally a 9x spacebar could work.
(1.5x - 1.5x - 9x - 1.5x - 1.5x)

This matters because SP does not have 10x molds in all profiles, but they do have 8x and 9x molds, at least one of which we hope to include with Retro Green and Retro Blue.

Please jdcarpe et al, tell me that I am wrong, and that 8x and/or 9x can be used in some configuration.

Thanks gentlemen!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Poker.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:22:59
Unfortunately (lol) you are correct Ron. A spacebar size 6x through 10x will physically fit and can mount, but I don't think there are switch supports for proper spacing if you use 8x and 9x spacebar sizes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:39:50
Unfortunately (lol) you are correct Ron. A spacebar size 6x through 10x will physically fit and can mount, but I don't think there are switch supports for proper spacing if you use 8x and 9x spacebar sizes.

Hmm.  Sad.

If we went old-school, we could do 1.5 - 1.5(step L) - 9 - 1.5(step R) - 1.5.  That would require 1.5 - 1 - (.5 gap) - 9 - (.5 gap) - 1 - 1.5 spacing.  SP has molds for that.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Loligagger on Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:42:55
If you're desperate for clear switches, I'll probably be getting some that are desoldered from keyboards. They're not directly offered in this GB because they're not brand new. Brand new ones still need to be directly from 7bit unless we can find some.

I really wish we could have gotten some white switches. Those are the only ones I really wanted too :/

I could trade 61 mx whites for clears if you want.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:51:00
I could trade 61 mx whites for clears if you want.

Do you have a second batch of 61 whites? I'll trade you clear stems/springs if so :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Loligagger on Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:54:48
Do you have a second batch of 61 whites? I'll trade you stems if so :)

I just have the 61 I pulled out of my poker and temporarily replaced with clears until the gh60 arrives. Found out that I like clears a lot more than whites once I did so. I would like to try ergo clears though.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 14 April 2013, 19:57:25
Do you have a second batch of 61 whites? I'll trade you stems if so :)

I just have the 61 I pulled out of my poker and temporarily replaced with clears until the gh60 arrives. Found out that I like clears a lot more than whites once I did so. I would like to try ergo clears though.

By all means, see if WFD wants them first (he'll have clears to trade you soon). I'm sure he's going to want them, but I'll take them if he doesn't lol.

PS - I also have clears I can trade, but I'd rather see WFD get his whites first :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 April 2013, 22:16:01
JD i just sent you a massive pm...sorry for the length and amount of questions...my mind is full of fug
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 14 April 2013, 22:28:48
GH60 MX Lock compatible?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 14 April 2013, 22:32:53
MX lock fits into the same footprint as the rest of MX... you mean the software?  The software is fully configurable
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 14 April 2013, 22:39:22
Hmmm I should try to get some from 7bit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 14 April 2013, 22:45:02
MX lock is ok for any key EXCEPT capslock, in case that's what you were thinking. The key presses for capslock doesn't work exactly the same way as any other key.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 14 April 2013, 23:22:23
MX lock is ok for any key EXCEPT capslock, in case that's what you were thinking. The key presses for capslock doesn't work exactly the same way as any other key.

I am going to try them out as the Fn keyswitch, since that is a key that works on key-down events and could be useful if it stays down for the WASD arrows on a Poker.  (It might also turn out to be completely annoying!)

It is really too bad the logic of Caps Lock gets all twisted around if you try to use a lock switch, since on the old typewriters and even some terminals that was exactly how they worked.

 - Ron I samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 14 April 2013, 23:26:46
With the appropriate firmware, it could happen
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 14 April 2013, 23:30:01
how would one type with an all mx lock board?  :confused:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 14 April 2013, 23:32:24
how would one type with an all mx lock board?  :confused:
Caps lock haha

Nvm I just saw the rest of the posts.  Sad
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: fl0w3n on Sun, 14 April 2013, 23:33:51
I ordered the Universal Plates...but now today after dealing with my first PCB mount Cherry Stabs on this WYSE board I was desoldering...I'm unsure about them :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 14 April 2013, 23:38:58
Stabilizers aren't something that needs to be installed more than once, unlike keycaps. But you're right, for whatever reason you need to take them off, PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers are the hardest out of the 3 types if you have a plate on there. Desoldering is no fun either.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 14 April 2013, 23:39:15
how would one type with an all mx lock board?  :confused:
Caps lock haha

Nvm I just saw the rest of the posts.  Sad

Could use it for a shift lock and get approximately the same thing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 14 April 2013, 23:40:54
Yeah I guess you could do two shifts and throw a lock on one eh?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: classicps on Mon, 15 April 2013, 00:00:07
I ordered one :) for now!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 15 April 2013, 01:18:05
how would one type with an all mx lock board?  :confused:
Caps lock haha

Nvm I just saw the rest of the posts.  Sad

Could use it for a shift lock and get approximately the same thing.

actually a decent idea for an hhkb layout on the right shift :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: 7bit on Mon, 15 April 2013, 05:14:51
MX lock is ok for any key EXCEPT capslock, in case that's what you were thinking. The key presses for capslock doesn't work exactly the same way as any other key.

I am going to try them out as the Fn keyswitch, since that is a key that works on key-down events and could be useful if it stays down for the WASD arrows on a Poker.  (It might also turn out to be completely annoying!)

It is really too bad the logic of Caps Lock gets all twisted around if you try to use a lock switch, since on the old typewriters and even some terminals that was exactly how they worked.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

It should be possible to program the correct logic into the controller software.

If Caps Lock is down, send a signal to the computer once and then keep silent until the status changes to "Caps Lock up".

Another way would be to use Shift or program the complete logic Caps Lock has in the computer into the controller software ...

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cusx on Mon, 15 April 2013, 05:16:22
hmm, I've got a few questions:

1) Are casing sold separately from this thread or from this thread ? I really like the CNC casing, but I think it's completely sold.

2) As someone who has never soldered anything before, is it possible for someone like me to assemble the keyboard ? Just soldering the switches and stuff, not the smt.

Thanks !
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 15 April 2013, 05:19:41
hmm, I've got a few questions:

1) Are casing sold separately from this thread or from this thread ? I really like the CNC casing, but I think it's completely sold.

2) As someone who has never soldered anything before, is it possible for someone like me to assemble the keyboard ? Just soldering the switches and stuff, not the smt.

Thanks !

1-yes they are. In the OP, you will see a list of cases and links where to get them

2-yes! It's not hard, just read up a bit, ask questions, and you'll be good!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cyberwave on Mon, 15 April 2013, 05:46:22
if i wanted to build a 'Samwisekoi' layout  but with 2.25x L-shift, i'd have to get a universal plate?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: fl0w3n on Mon, 15 April 2013, 09:40:15
Stabilizers aren't something that needs to be installed more than once, unlike keycaps. But you're right, for whatever reason you need to take them off, PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers are the hardest out of the 3 types if you have a plate on there. Desoldering is no fun either.

Ducky dk-1087 uses PCB mount cherry stabilizers right?

I'm just worried about sacrificing a solid rigid feel to the key presses by going with them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 15 April 2013, 09:41:41
how would one type with an all mx lock board?  :confused:
Caps lock haha

Nvm I just saw the rest of the posts.  Sad

Could use it for a shift lock and get approximately the same thing.

actually a decent idea for an hhkb layout on the right shift :P

Unforunately the computer will register any key-up event on the other shift and release the shifted state, leaving you with the shift button locked down and the computer unshifted.  Try it on your computer by holding one shift key down and pressing and releasing the other, while typing with a third ? hand.

 - Ron I samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Mon, 15 April 2013, 09:45:02
how would one type with an all mx lock board?  :confused:
Caps lock haha

Nvm I just saw the rest of the posts.  Sad

Could use it for a shift lock and get approximately the same thing.

actually a decent idea for an hhkb layout on the right shift :P

Unforunately the computer will register any key-up event on the other shift and release the shifted state, leaving you with the shift button locked down and the computer unshifted.  Try it on your computer by holding one shift key down and pressing and releasing the other, while typing with a third ? hand.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

... or you could use your pinky fingers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 15 April 2013, 10:01:53
how would one type with an all mx lock board?  :confused:
Caps lock haha

Nvm I just saw the rest of the posts.  Sad

Could use it for a shift lock and get approximately the same thing.

actually a decent idea for an hhkb layout on the right shift :P

Unforunately the computer will register any key-up event on the other shift and release the shifted state, leaving you with the shift button locked down and the computer unshifted.  Try it on your computer by holding one shift key down and pressing and releasing the other, while typing with a third ? hand.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

... or you could use your pinky fingers.

Or that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 15 April 2013, 10:03:09
you could use your pinkey fingers yea

but meh probably won't get one haha :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: osxoep on Mon, 15 April 2013, 10:23:24
Unforunately the computer will register any key-up event on the other shift and release the shifted state, leaving you with the shift button locked down and the computer unshifted.  Try it on your computer by holding one shift key down and pressing and releasing the other, while typing with a third ? hand.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I tried it and everything was still shifted...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Mon, 15 April 2013, 10:35:43
Unforunately the computer will register any key-up event on the other shift and release the shifted state, leaving you with the shift button locked down and the computer unshifted.  Try it on your computer by holding one shift key down and pressing and releasing the other, while typing with a third ? hand.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I tried it and everything was still shifted...

Depends on how the OS handles the keyup event. My guess is that Windows would unshift as described. I'm on Linux, and it doesn't unshift if I hold one shift, then press and release the other.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 15 April 2013, 10:54:25
Unforunately the computer will register any key-up event on the other shift and release the shifted state, leaving you with the shift button locked down and the computer unshifted.  Try it on your computer by holding one shift key down and pressing and releasing the other, while typing with a third ? hand.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I tried it and everything was still shifted...

Depends on how the OS handles the keyup event. My guess is that Windows would unshift as described. I'm on Linux, and it doesn't unshift if I hold one shift, then press and release the other.

Yeah, I just tried this on Win 7 32 bit machine using QFR and a Rosewill 9000 and it did not un-shift. Not sure why this wouldn't work?? I'm also looking for something cool to do with my 2 mx locks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 15 April 2013, 12:02:18
I have lock on my right shift, when engaged it is shifted. Pressing the other shift does not cause lower case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 15 April 2013, 12:15:44
Windows 8 does not "unshift" on my GH60. Works perfectly fine on my Poker too. I don't feel the need to check my Filcos.

I'm starting to wonder if I made the right plate choices. Hmmm...
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 April 2013, 12:24:45
I'm starting to wonder if I made the right plate choices. Hmmm...

Just order MOAR! You can get more plates than PCBs if you want... :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 15 April 2013, 12:27:58
Or you can get more PCBs than plates!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 15 April 2013, 14:10:13
Or I could get more of both! I'm trying to avoid having to desolder anything once it's done ;). Desoldering is a PITA.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 15 April 2013, 14:12:41
If you went PCB mount, you would only have to desolder a minimal amount of switches to switch layouts.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 15 April 2013, 14:31:56
Attention everybody. The price of GH60 assembled PCB goes down to $30. WFD, could you update the op, please?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: fl0w3n on Mon, 15 April 2013, 14:34:48
Fantastic news!

Maybe that means 1 more for only $20 more than I already budgeted...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: aggiejy on Mon, 15 April 2013, 14:37:55
Attention everybody. The price of GH60 assembled PCB goes down to $30. WFD, could you update the op, please?

I don't suppose the DIY goes down a little too? Or is this just an assembly efficiency?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 15 April 2013, 14:38:05
WOOOOOOoooooooo0o0oOOo00oo00oOOO0o00oooo
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 15 April 2013, 14:39:43
Well that makes it a whole lot easier to add another PCB and plate :D. I'll do that tomorrow!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 15 April 2013, 15:19:48
Good news!  Savin me some money.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 15 April 2013, 15:23:28
Only $5 more for predone SMD hell? I'll have to change my order!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ter_ on Mon, 15 April 2013, 15:23:39
I ordered one but How do I know my order went through?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 15 April 2013, 15:45:58
I ordered one but How do I know my order went through?
It did.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 15 April 2013, 15:51:34
Only $5 more for predone SMD hell? I'll have to change my order!
The DIY prices will hopefully go down as well, though everybody who orders them has to understand that these boards were designed for automatic assembly and you do need at least some experience and hardware to solder them correctly.
WFD and me are currently estimating the cost of parts (checking Europe and America).

There have been suggestions to enlarge the pads for X1, but I'm not really keen on this idea. I'm using recommended land patterns. Enlarging them together with solder paste layer means more solder and possibly solder blobs, enlarging keeping the solder paste as it was means solder pouring over the whole larger pad and potentially not enough to mount the part well. Except for that, this is the most sensitive area of the board, so the less exposed conductor the better.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 15 April 2013, 16:02:10
Attention everybody. The price of GH60 assembled PCB goes down to $30.
I don't suppose the DIY goes down a little too? Or is this just an assembly efficiency?

It could go down just a tad. We're sourcing the cheapest parts from the US and Europe for the DIY kit. I'm composing the BoM for the SMD components this evening.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Binge on Mon, 15 April 2013, 16:06:36
Would it be possible to update the OP with all of the new info?  Thanks for all your hard work guys!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 15 April 2013, 17:03:54
i can order two now!!!  :D :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Winther on Mon, 15 April 2013, 19:36:30
dang.. just changed my order to one PCB instead of the two I originally ordered, and then I find out its gone down in price.. :P

If I change my order again, do you guys think it would be easy to sell one (PCB or maybe with switches..) if I decide I only need one efter getting the board?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tarzan on Mon, 15 April 2013, 19:37:32
dang.. just changed my order to one PCB instead of the two I originally ordered, and then I find out its gone down in price.. :P

If I change my order again, do you guys think it would be easy to sell one (PCB or maybe with switches..) if I decide I only need one efter getting the board?

Yes.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 15 April 2013, 19:54:21
I wonder if the price of the plates will go down. The first round of plates by Beast were only $10
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: OddOne on Mon, 15 April 2013, 20:19:47
Just placed my order.  Going for a wkl pure layout.  Thanks to everyone who made this possible.

Cheers, OddOne
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cobraj on Mon, 15 April 2013, 22:17:48
I wonder if the price of the plates will go down. The first round of plates by Beast were only $10

If they were only $10 I'd buy a few more :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 15 April 2013, 22:27:13
I wonder if the price of the plates will go down. The first round of plates by Beast were only $10

There are a lot more plate variations in this GB then there were in my first GB. I essentially had one design, and one that was 99% the same with a slight variation


Also, would it be cheaper just to have everything pre-SMD soldered and combine the DIY and the non-DIY for a larger, cheaper, single price (also easier to pack/ship/sort)?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 15 April 2013, 22:32:19
Also, would it be cheaper just to have everything pre-SMD soldered and combine the DIY and the non-DIY for a larger, cheaper, single price (also easier to pack/ship/sort)?

I'm also curious about this :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Caaaarrrt on Mon, 15 April 2013, 23:06:52
Order submitted :)

Keen as for this!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cobraj on Tue, 16 April 2013, 00:28:27
Order submitted :)

Keen as for this!

YEA BUDDY!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 16 April 2013, 02:39:26
I wonder if the price of the plates will go down. The first round of plates by Beast were only $10

There are a lot more plate variations in this GB then there were in my first GB. I essentially had one design, and one that was 99% the same with a slight variation


Also, would it be cheaper just to have everything pre-SMD soldered and combine the DIY and the non-DIY for a larger, cheaper, single price (also easier to pack/ship/sort)?
Not sure it would be cheaper, but for sure it would be less hassle. We wouldn't have to pack the components into bags. 14 prototypes took me a few hours of cutting tape and counting, and the shielded bags aren't cheap either.


But I think some people just want to solder on their own.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: kaiserreich on Tue, 16 April 2013, 03:34:54
I have very little knowledge on PCB assembly and I would like to learn more about it.
1. What is stopping you all from getting it machine assembled?
2. If it is cost, how much are we talking about?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 16 April 2013, 03:57:04
Nothing's stopping us. Some people just want to solder themselves. The $30 price includes machine assembly.
Switches remain to be soldered at home in both cases of course.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: aggiejy on Tue, 16 April 2013, 07:09:36
I'm fine with combining, not a big deal. I mainly was doing DIY for cost, but at $5 difference, I can practice my smd soldering elsewhere. If done with pick and place, you should just have that one option. :-)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 16 April 2013, 07:16:33
We're sourcing the cheapest parts from the US and Europe for the DIY kit.

It's cool that you save everyone money, but won't "getting the cheapest parts" make the final product suffer?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Kmynis on Tue, 16 April 2013, 08:18:34
We're sourcing the cheapest parts from the US and Europe for the DIY kit.

It's cool that you save everyone money, but won't "getting the cheapest parts" make the final product suffer?


Not really in this case. Keyboard is more of a digital thing than analog so there is no space for distortions and so on. What matters more is the soldering which affects the durability of the keyboard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 16 April 2013, 08:27:30
We're sourcing the cheapest parts from the US and Europe for the DIY kit.

It's cool that you save everyone money, but won't "getting the cheapest parts" make the final product suffer?

Not really in this case. Keyboard is more of a digital thing than analog so there is no space for distortions and so on. What matters more is the soldering which affects the durability of the keyboard.

Thanks for answering :) It was really just curiosity.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Germiphene on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:03:44
Hi, is there a list or spreadsheet of the orders anywhere?  I'm very likely blind and it's in a very obvious area, but I couldn't for the life of me find it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Shinryuu on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:05:46
It seems I have to cancel my order because I'm not going to have much money for a while because I'm unemployed and I have to spend it for living. Hope this message reaches before the deadline :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:05:53
How many people really ordered the DIY? Would switching them over (likely against the wont of some) really make a difference in the overall price? Just curious.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: battletux on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:08:46
Just wondering how I can go about amending my order to add a 2nd pcb? At $30 I best get a 2nd for work!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:10:03
Just wondering how I can go about amending my order to add a 2nd pcb? At $30 I best get a 2nd for work!

There's a huge link in the OP to modify your order  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:15:05
It seems I have to cancel my order because I'm not going to have much money for a while because I'm unemployed and I have to spend it for living. Hope this message reaches before the deadline :)

So sorry to hear that. I have cancelled your order. :'(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Germiphene on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:18:06
Just wondering how I can go about amending my order to add a 2nd pcb? At $30 I best get a 2nd for work!

There's a huge link in the OP to modify your order  ;D

Hah! I guess where it says order changes.... that's the spot right??  ;D

I guess I was hoping to find a place where I could see what I had originally ordered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:21:27
Just wondering how I can go about amending my order to add a 2nd pcb? At $30 I best get a 2nd for work!

There's a huge link in the OP to modify your order  ;D

Hah! I guess where it says order changes.... that's the spot right??  ;D

I guess I was hoping to find a place where I could see what I had originally ordered.

I believe the only way to see your order is to ask the staff for a PM with it.

Sidenote: Hasn't anyone come around to make something like a "group buy organizing web app"?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:35:18
There is one.  It was used for the Retro DSA GB.  I have no idea why they went with the awkward Google Docs system here when a much better system was available
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: boost on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:35:44
Order forum filled out again. Can you please delete my previous orders.

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 16 April 2013, 09:36:17
AFAIK, the system isn't available yet. It's not even in full use for DSA Retro ATM.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 16 April 2013, 10:05:26
Maybe I should make such a thing, as an excuse to try out some new web dev tech  :p You guys think it would have an audience, if done right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 16 April 2013, 10:07:53
If done right, yes. Matt3o's was done very well. We're all waiting to see what happens with it, and whether it will be available for future use of GBs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: battletux on Tue, 16 April 2013, 10:29:02
Just wondering how I can go about amending my order to add a 2nd pcb? At $30 I best get a 2nd for work!

There's a huge link in the OP to modify your order  ;D

Hah! I guess where it says order changes.... that's the spot right??  ;D

I guess I was hoping to find a place where I could see what I had originally ordered.

I believe the only way to see your order is to ask the staff for a PM with it.

Sidenote: Hasn't anyone come around to make something like a "group buy organizing web app"?

Thanks, glasses must be dirtier than I thought.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 16 April 2013, 11:16:37
don't forget to change the price of the pcbs in the order form.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 16 April 2013, 11:32:13
I plan to have a lock switch on the right winkey. it will actually be programmed to be a ScrLk key that is toggleable I use this for voice comm in vent. the left winkey will also be a ScrLk key just not locking.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 16 April 2013, 12:10:37
Sidenote: Hasn't anyone come around to make something like a "group buy organizing web app"?
There is one.  It was used for the Retro DSA GB.  I have no idea why they went with the awkward Google Docs system here when a much better system was available

Matt3o has a very efficient app that lets you check your own order and modify it. I've already PMed a while ago and he said he was working on the software, but not finished yet. Trust me, I would want that system up and running more than anyone. I'm getting a lot of PMs just to verify order, but there is no other way. Google doc is the 2nd most efficient way so the requests are saved somewhere until we have time to change it. Changing order by PM could be a big mess if they aren't done right when they're read.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 16 April 2013, 13:07:37
Sidenote: Hasn't anyone come around to make something like a "group buy organizing web app"?
There is one.  It was used for the Retro DSA GB.  I have no idea why they went with the awkward Google Docs system here when a much better system was available

Matt3o has a very efficient app that lets you check your own order and modify it. I've already PMed a while ago and he said he was working on the software, but not finished yet. Trust me, I would want that system up and running more than anyone. I'm getting a lot of PMs just to verify order, but there is no other way. Google doc is the 2nd most efficient way so the requests are saved somewhere until we have time to change it. Changing order by PM could be a big mess if they aren't done right when they're read.

Why not link all the order data (no addresses or names) to another google doc and then make that one public?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: salmo on Tue, 16 April 2013, 13:37:02
...
Why not link all the order data (no addresses or names) to another google doc and then make that one public?

This would be very nice.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 16 April 2013, 13:38:29
Sidenote: Hasn't anyone come around to make something like a "group buy organizing web app"?
There is one.  It was used for the Retro DSA GB.  I have no idea why they went with the awkward Google Docs system here when a much better system was available

Matt3o has a very efficient app that lets you check your own order and modify it. I've already PMed a while ago and he said he was working on the software, but not finished yet. Trust me, I would want that system up and running more than anyone. I'm getting a lot of PMs just to verify order, but there is no other way. Google doc is the 2nd most efficient way so the requests are saved somewhere until we have time to change it. Changing order by PM could be a big mess if they aren't done right when they're read.

Why not link all the order data (no addresses or names) to another google doc and then make that one public?

Show me how to do this please.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 16 April 2013, 14:43:11
When I ordered the acrylic case from alixinhzai after I filled the form I got a link where you can edit your order.
Shame that doesn't work on GH60. Any idea how to do this? Maybe we could change that behavior and generate those links and send them to the people.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 16 April 2013, 15:20:43
Why not link all the order data (no addresses or names) to another google doc and then make that one public?

How do I link data to auto update as they get filled out? I tried doing this and I think this isn't an option. Only way is to copy/paste to another spreadsheet and make it public. This is still manual work of constantly copy/pasting every time an order is filled in, and order changes still must be done manually. How do I allow users to change their own order?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Viett on Tue, 16 April 2013, 15:24:31
Show me how to do this please.

The function is importrange(). You can find information here (http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/786/how-do-i-link-a-cell-in-google-spreadsheets-to-a-cell-in-another-document). Here is an example of a public document I made with references to a private document:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq3q9uSv12TbdGlqS0lVOURydTB6QldVeEVnNlhFeFE#gid=0

You can see that I used the function:

Code: [Select]
=importrange("0Aq3q9uSv12TbdHZ0RzBSRDctTzZaalBtWnZvQ3JzTnc","B:B")
where "0Aq3q9uSv12TbdHZ0RzBSRDctTzZaalBtWnZvQ3JzTnc" is the private document key (found in the URL of the private document).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 16 April 2013, 16:55:16
^ THANK YOU, I got it working  :-* ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Nunez on Tue, 16 April 2013, 17:59:34
oooo nice!

Pity G-docs is blocked at work :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Index on Tue, 16 April 2013, 18:41:04
Can someone pm my order? Need to make sure I ordered the correct items. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 16 April 2013, 18:44:28
^ THANK YOU, I got it working  :-* ;)

Yup, you can do certain columns as well. A:A = names, B:B = address, C:C = order, so copy everything but B:B for example

only thing it can't do is order changes, but you can just have everyone submit new orders and (maybe) have a script delete older entries
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Tue, 16 April 2013, 20:06:52
Does anyone have the dimensions of the GH60 pcb or autoCAD files? I am working on designing an acrylic/ polycarb case. I can post it here once I am done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 16 April 2013, 21:10:18
Here are your orders. I think from now on, if you need to change an order, just submit a new order, fill now the order change sheet to delete old order. That's faster than us manually changing stuff. But in the new order, put in the comments section "new updated order". Use Ctrl + F and search for yourself since there are a lot of entries.

red  = GH PCB
green = plates

Order confirmation (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 16 April 2013, 21:40:13
Here are your orders. I think from now on, if you need to change an order, just submit a new order, fill now the order change sheet to delete old order. That's faster than us manually changing stuff. But in the new order, put in the comments section "new updated order". Use Ctrl + F and search for yourself since there are a lot of entries.

red  = GH PCB
green = plates

Order confirmation (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing)

Any chance you can Freeze the top row so the users at the bottom can easily see what the columns correspond to without scrolling up and down?  Regardless, the order confirmation form is superb!  Thanks for that!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 16 April 2013, 21:58:17
Looks like I need to submit a new order.  The order modification I filled out seemed to have wiped out my first order.   :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 16 April 2013, 22:00:22
order is done as soon as i figure out how im getting my mx whites :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 16 April 2013, 22:02:04
The case thing is a huge bummer.  :confused:

I would love to order a GH60. But there's no abundant, cheap cases to be had. Something simple like Poker/Pure.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 16 April 2013, 22:26:23
The case thing is a huge bummer.  :confused:

I would love to order a GH60. But there's no abundant, cheap cases to be had. Something simple like Poker/Pure.
You just missed the custom acrylic case GB
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cyberwave on Tue, 16 April 2013, 22:35:14
The case thing is a huge bummer.  :confused:

I would love to order a GH60. But there's no abundant, cheap cases to be had. Something simple like Poker/Pure.
You just missed the custom acrylic case GB

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40468.0 this?

there would be round #2 and beyond :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 16 April 2013, 22:50:21
The case thing is a huge bummer.  :confused:

I would love to order a GH60. But there's no abundant, cheap cases to be had. Something simple like Poker/Pure.
You just missed the custom acrylic case GB

I saw the ones by alixinhzai, I wasn't 100% into them. And $55 shipped, is more than I need. A mass-produced, cheap tray like Poker/Pure would be ideal.

*** I looked at them again, it's not so bad. But still...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 16 April 2013, 23:36:19
holey smokes imsto is going crazy ;)


will submit my order tomorrow since it didn't got through yesterday... (****ty internet on my side)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Nunez on Wed, 17 April 2013, 00:44:17
The case thing is a huge bummer.  :confused:

I would love to order a GH60. But there's no abundant, cheap cases to be had. Something simple like Poker/Pure.
You just missed the custom acrylic case GB

I saw the ones by alixinhzai, I wasn't 100% into them. And $55 shipped, is more than I need. A mass-produced, cheap tray like Poker/Pure would be ideal.

*** I looked at them again, it's not so bad. But still...


Give it a bit and I'm sure more stock poker cases will come available as people migrate to Custom ones.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 17 April 2013, 00:48:22
The case thing is a huge bummer.  :confused:

I would love to order a GH60. But there's no abundant, cheap cases to be had. Something simple like Poker/Pure.
You just missed the custom acrylic case GB

I saw the ones by alixinhzai, I wasn't 100% into them. And $55 shipped, is more than I need. A mass-produced, cheap tray like Poker/Pure would be ideal.

*** I looked at them again, it's not so bad. But still...


Give it a bit and I'm sure more stock poker cases will come available as people migrate to Custom ones.

but i don't think that they will be much cheaper because of the huge demand
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: BimboBB on Wed, 17 April 2013, 03:03:47
I made an "order change" yesterday, but seems it didnt made it into the new "order confirmation". Are you still going to update the "order confirmation" or is it updated as per time you posted it?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 17 April 2013, 04:33:28
It should auto update when we change it. But if you just put in a request yesterday, then it probably won't be changed that quick. Total order change, not including the ones in PMs are at 142 right now.

Geez you guys are so indecisive.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 17 April 2013, 06:45:38
It should auto update when we change it. But if you just put in a request yesterday, then it probably won't be changed that quick. Total order change, not including the ones in PMs are at 142 right now.

Geez you guys are so indecisive.

Sorry WFD, make that 143. Filled the form again.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: agor on Wed, 17 April 2013, 06:47:14
Nice to see that I appearantly am order no. 16  :cool:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: osxoep on Wed, 17 April 2013, 09:18:41
Wow. The sheet seems to say that 395 PCBs (Normal and DIY) are ordered.

Make it 400 by this evening?

Edit: is there a MOQ on the plates?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Wed, 17 April 2013, 09:57:18
Are off center caps-lock available with all plates?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: foxer on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:03:16
I've not got time to read the first post and I've never done a group buy but how do I get in on this? All I've literally done is look at the pictures and fell in love with the ANSI WKL.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tricheboars on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:05:21
I've not got time to read the first post and I've never done a group buy but how do I get in on this? All I've literally done is look at the pictures and fell in love with the ANSI WKL.

it's all in the first post. you should read it for a number of reasons if you want to order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:15:41
I've not got time to read the first post and I've never done a group buy but how do I get in on this? All I've literally done is look at the pictures and fell in love with the ANSI WKL.

If you don't have time to read the post, how do you expect us to write anything for you, for which you will likely not have time either? Go read it.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:24:48
I usually advocate for new users to be helped, but that was just ridiculous, foxer. Get out if you don't even plan to read the first post.

Changed my order to help grow that number ;D .


Now at 4PCBs and 2 universal plates. I might have to change my stabilizer order too, but I'll do that when I'm sure I can't get more while waiting.


I might just scrap my initial order and start over. I forgot to mention they should be ANSI plates, but I am guessing you guys remember what I use ;).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:25:57
Also, everyone order switches! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Sai on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:36:45
i guess the only way to get whites is either from 7bit or buy pure from MK. >.<
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: foxer on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:38:21
Lol, I didn't mean like a whole walkthrough. I meant just a run down of how to order and whatnot while I was in queue for SC2. :3 Sorry for acting a moron, m'bad.

So after reading, I don't think I should order since I have no clue how to use a solder. I could ask my old man as he's an electrician but not sure if he'd do all what needed to be done for me. Once again, sorry for acting a prat. I'll just wait until one comes up for sale, if one comes up for sale fully made.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:52:40
You can have it shipped with switches assembled, but you still have to find case, cable, and key caps on your own.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: asura on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:56:38
There will be options for assembly service if you cannot build it yourself.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tym on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:58:31
Lol, I didn't mean like a whole walkthrough. I meant just a run down of how to order and whatnot while I was in queue for SC2. :3 Sorry for acting a moron, m'bad.

So after reading, I don't think I should order since I have no clue how to use a solder. I could ask my old man as he's an electrician but not sure if he'd do all what needed to be done for me. Once again, sorry for acting a prat. I'll just wait until one comes up for sale, if one comes up for sale fully made.

Im sure there are other ways to do it, i would advise having a word with pexon as he can build them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:58:36
GH60 Ordering for The Absolute Beginner

What to order:

1. GH60 PCB (SMD Presoldered)
2. Universal ANSI plate
3. 1 x Cherry PCB-mount stabilizers (6.25 spacebar wire)
4. 65 x MX Browns  (or Reds, Blues, Blacks, Greens, Greys)
5. Assembly service

>ORDER FORM< (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1s6QEJLRtw16Xt1WuEps6xWKl4EDLLBxhFx6fSUlIWFE/viewform)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: foxer on Wed, 17 April 2013, 12:59:07
You can have it shipped with switches assembled, but you still have to find case, cable, and key caps on your own.

Without sounding like a complete noob, how hard is it to fit a case? I'd order a Mimic cable and keycaps won't be a worry, at all. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Index on Wed, 17 April 2013, 13:25:56
Here are your orders. I think from now on, if you need to change an order, just submit a new order, fill now the order change sheet to delete old order. That's faster than us manually changing stuff. But in the new order, put in the comments section "new updated order". Use Ctrl + F and search for yourself since there are a lot of entries.

red  = GH PCB
green = plates

Order confirmation (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing)
Awesome, thanks WFD!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Wed, 17 April 2013, 13:43:16
Are off center caps-lock available with all plates?
Anyone have an answer to this?
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 17 April 2013, 13:45:25
Are off center caps-lock available with all plates?
Anyone have an answer to this?

Not just "anyone" can answer your question. Only WFD knows for sure. I would guess that the answer is yes, but it's only a guess.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 17 April 2013, 13:54:38
Are off center caps-lock available with all plates?
Anyone have an answer to this?

If you look at original plate pics I posted, all plates supports both centered and off-centered capslock.

I'll update pics and OP before the ordering deadline. I'm still backlogged with a bunch of things to do on this forum :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Wed, 17 April 2013, 14:25:15
So I specify that in the additional notes section? because I will buy assembly service.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 17 April 2013, 14:27:41
So I specify that in the additional notes section? because I will buy assembly service.

Yes, specify whether you want center or off-center Caps Lock in the notes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Wed, 17 April 2013, 14:52:02
So I specify that in the additional notes section? because I will buy assembly service.

Yes, specify whether you want center or off-center Caps Lock in the notes.
Thank you :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MarkPharaoh on Wed, 17 April 2013, 16:42:08
oops, forgot the spacebar wires, resubmitted my order. Also, holy crap @ imsto's order, lol.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Wed, 17 April 2013, 16:47:02
Those space bar wires, can anyone explain if they're required for cherry stabs on an ISO 1.25x?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 17 April 2013, 16:48:23
Those space bar wires, can anyone explain if they're required for cherry stabs on an ISO 1.25x?

You would need a 6.25 spacebar wire
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: oluf on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:30:44
Also, everyone order switches! :D

...Through this GB? Or, via 7-Bit directly? ...Or, just in general? =)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:32:07
Also, everyone order switches! :D

...Through this GB? Or, via 7-Bit directly? ...Or, just in general? =)
Throught the GB
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: limmy on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:58:30
I put in an order today. Thank you for organizing this GB.

I have a question on the spacebar wire used for Cherry PCB mount stabilizer. I have a x7 space bar wire from an old Cherry keyboard, but it has additional groves in the middle of the wire. Can that wire be used with the universal ANSI plate?

Also, is it possible to order just the spacebar wire?

Thank you!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 17 April 2013, 22:06:26
The grooves that you're referring to won't work with a plate no matter which way your orient it. That kink will either hit the plate or the PCB and make the stabilizer get stuck. You need a perfectly straight wire.

I'm just going to organize them in "sets." It's too hard to micro manage every small request when it comes time to invoice and packaging/shipping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 17 April 2013, 22:27:37
I made one work by bending it. I bent the legs down, such that the groove in the middle wasn't 90 degrees to the legs, but more of a 135 degree angle (more obtuse).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: limmy on Wed, 17 April 2013, 22:33:25
The grooves that you're referring to won't work with a plate no matter which way your orient it. That kink will either hit the plate or the PCB and make the stabilizer get stuck. You need a perfectly straight wire.

I'm just going to organize them in "sets." It's too hard to micro manage every small request when it comes time to invoice and packaging/shipping.

Thank you for your answer.

There are some plate designs that are compatible with the kinked wire, so it is not entirely impossible. However, incorporating the design may be too much work at this late stage or very hard given the compatibility of the plate. Anyways, I am glad to know.

I will add stabilizer set to my order. Thank you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 17 April 2013, 23:57:51
damn... after seeing the poker 2 comign out for around $80 I think I need to change my order again.... (changed 2 min before I saw that thread...)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: eon on Thu, 18 April 2013, 03:05:45
So the HHKB plate with splitted backspace and ANSI 1.5 bottom row doesn't exists any more, or is it still possibble to have one ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Thu, 18 April 2013, 03:20:29
So the HHKB plate with splitted backspace and ANSI 1.5 bottom row doesn't exists any more, or is it still possibble to have one ?

you could do that with the universal ansi plate
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: eon on Thu, 18 April 2013, 03:54:05
I don't like PCB mounted stabs :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 18 April 2013, 04:09:37
Also, everyone order switches! :D

...Through this GB? Or, via 7-Bit directly? ...Or, just in general? =)
Throught the GB
What switches are available?, all of them or what?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 18 April 2013, 04:16:13

What switches are available?, all of them or what?


Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 18 April 2013, 04:32:36

What switches are available?, all of them or what?


Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.
Are the gray switches light or dark grey?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: vorn on Thu, 18 April 2013, 04:53:57

What switches are available?, all of them or what?


Looking really good, unless you want MX Clear or MX White. Still need to order from 7bit for those.

We should be able to provide MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, Grey for $0.60/ea.
Are the gray switches light or dark grey?

Yes, gray switches are a lighter gray, but their names are mx gray and mx dark gray. Dark gray will also not be offered :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 18 April 2013, 05:00:44
Light grey ones have the same stem as clears right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cyberwave on Thu, 18 April 2013, 05:35:11
Light grey ones have the same stem as clears right?

yep that is right :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dsan on Thu, 18 April 2013, 07:03:02
Will ordering switches delay the shipment,or will they be ready when the shipment of the keyboards will start?Also,are the switches pcb or plate mounted? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cyberwave on Thu, 18 April 2013, 07:20:48
Will ordering switches delay the shipment,or will they be ready when the shipment of the keyboards will start?Also,are the switches pcb or plate mounted? :)

if using plate, both pcb and plate mounted switches can be used.
if not using a plate, only use pcb mounted switches
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 18 April 2013, 07:21:45
Unless you're getting a universal plate in which case it is suggested that you use PCB mounted switches for the ones that go in the bigger holes
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dsan on Thu, 18 April 2013, 07:31:16
Will ordering switches delay the shipment,or will they be ready when the shipment of the keyboards will start?Also,are the switches pcb or plate mounted? :)

if using plate, both pcb and plate mounted switches can be used.
if not using a plate, only use pcb mounted switches

Yeah I know this,maybe I didn't ask it properly.I want to know if the switches offered in the group buy are plate or pcb mounted :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 18 April 2013, 07:35:14
Both are offered, I believe. Just specify in the order which kind you want.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: llovro on Thu, 18 April 2013, 07:52:10
does gh60 have reattachable usb cable or how does it work?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 18 April 2013, 07:57:00
does gh60 have reattachable usb cable or how does it work?

PCB has a mini USB plug. You need to find a cable on your own. Mimic's cables seem to be quite popular, but I guess any A-MiniB cable will work, if you happen to have one lying around.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: llovro on Thu, 18 April 2013, 08:01:23
does gh60 have reattachable usb cable or how does it work?

PCB has a mini USB plug. You need to find a cable on your own. Mimic's cables seem to be quite popular, but I guess any A-MiniB cable will work, if you happen to have one lying around.
oh okay, thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 18 April 2013, 16:53:00
Those space bar wires, can anyone explain if they're required for cherry stabs on an ISO 1.25x?

You would need a 6.25 spacebar wire

How would one change my order, especially as its not listed on the front page as an order-able item?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 18 April 2013, 16:54:11
If you need to change an order, just submit a new order, and in the comments write "cancel my old order."
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 18 April 2013, 16:57:27
Those space bar wires, can anyone explain if they're required for cherry stabs on an ISO 1.25x?

You would need a 6.25 spacebar wire

How would one change my order, especially as its not listed on the front page as an order-able item?

Just specify the wire size along with the stab set order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 18 April 2013, 17:05:19
yep done that with the updated order, followed instructions from last page.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Winther on Thu, 18 April 2013, 17:10:30
What would be the spacebar wire size for the ISO 1.25 plate? 6.25 right?

Do you guys have a standard wire size if its not specified in the order?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jspark on Thu, 18 April 2013, 18:42:46
I don't know how much and where to pay. Please send me the invoice or can you provide any functionality to see what I really ordered?
Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 18 April 2013, 20:34:41
I don't know how much and where to pay. Please send me the invoice or can you provide any functionality to see what I really ordered?
Thanks
Read the thread.  All that info was posted
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: miscsubbin on Thu, 18 April 2013, 20:52:48
Can we get MX Green switches?
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 18 April 2013, 20:55:25
Can we get MX Green switches?

You can get Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, or (Light) Grey.

Plate mount or PCB mount.

:D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 18 April 2013, 21:03:13
Can we get MX Green switches?

You can get Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, or (Light) Grey.

Plate mount or PCB mount.

:D

Adding grease to the stem of a Green would basically be a ghetto white, correct?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cusx on Thu, 18 April 2013, 21:03:35
Can we get MX Green switches?

You can get Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, or (Light) Grey.

Plate mount or PCB mount.

:D

There isn't any clear switches ? Because I ordered some.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Thu, 18 April 2013, 21:29:47
Can we get MX Green switches?

You can get Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, or (Light) Grey.

Plate mount or PCB mount.

:D

There isn't any clear switches ? Because I ordered some.

Check the group buys section. There is a clear group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 18 April 2013, 21:31:09
If you order MX Whites or Clears from this GB, we will most likely have to submit the order for those to 7bit, after his preorder sale is over. Expect higher prices and delayed shipping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: HannibalChew on Fri, 19 April 2013, 06:06:49
Ordered ANSI 1.5x plate with blue switches, really love the HHKB layout with the normal RSHIFT :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: miscsubbin on Fri, 19 April 2013, 07:19:56
Can I get a PM confirming my order update?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dsan on Fri, 19 April 2013, 07:30:31
Ordered :D Can someone please tell me if what I wrote on the comment section is possible?Thank you
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: 4814 on Fri, 19 April 2013, 07:59:33
Quick question:
Am I able to use six 1.25x instead of the four 1.5x and the two 1x(?) keys on the bottom row with the Ansi 1.5x-Plate? If yes, does it affect the spacebar/stabilizer?
And if I buy the switches from 7bit (sorry... but I want white ones :D) and don't want the assembly service, it is recommend to let him sent the switches directly to me. Am I right?

BTW ty for this great group buy! Really looking forward to my GH60 :)

Edit: Think I got it... I could use six 1.25x but I would need a 7.5x Spacebar which seems to be pretty rare...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 19 April 2013, 08:24:51
Can I get a PM confirming my order update?

You can check it yourself here:

Here are your orders. I think from now on, if you need to change an order, just submit a new order, fill now the order change sheet to delete old order. That's faster than us manually changing stuff. But in the new order, put in the comments section "new updated order". Use Ctrl + F and search for yourself since there are a lot of entries.

red  = GH PCB
green = plates

Order confirmation (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing)


Ordered :D Can someone please tell me if what I wrote on the comment section is possible?Thank you

Yes, we can do that. Don't you want your name on the package if it gets delivered to your office, so they know who the package is for?


Quick question:
Am I able to use six 1.25x instead of the four 1.5x and the two 1x(?) keys on the bottom row with the Ansi 1.5x-Plate? If yes, does it affect the spacebar/stabilizer?
And if I buy the switches from 7bit (sorry... but I want white ones :D) and don't want the assembly service, it is recommend to let him sent the switches directly to me. Am I right?

BTW ty for this great group buy! Really looking forward to my GH60 :)

Edit: Think I got it... I could use six 1.25x but I would need a 7.5x Spacebar which seems to be pretty rare...

No, not the way you are thinking. The spacing is off and won't work with the switch mounts on the PCB. You can use 7x 1.25u mods with a 6.25u spacebar, just like a Poker.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Fri, 19 April 2013, 08:37:45
Someone just pointed me at massdrop when I asked about group buy platforms. I assume you've seen it, and decided it's no good for this. Would you mind sharing your reasoning?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dsan on Fri, 19 April 2013, 08:44:57
Quote
Yes, we can do that. Don't you want your name on the package if it gets delivered to your office, so they know who the package is for?

The secretary knows it's for me so it's not needed in my end,but I don't know if it's required to ship the package.I received an USPS package from EliteKeyboards without name on it,not sure how it works with other postage services.Sorry to bother you,you replied a question I made on the poker acrylic case,but since I can't speak English very well I wonder if I understood the answer correctly.Universal ANSI plate + Acrylic GH60 Poker(from acrylic case) will be ok together,right? :p Sorry again,just want to be sure :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 19 April 2013, 08:50:00
Someone just pointed me at massdrop when I asked about group buy platforms. I assume you've seen it, and decided it's no good for this. Would you mind sharing your reasoning?

I was actually approached by someone from Massdrop, and I'll tell you what I told them: I think our GB is just too complex in logistics for them to package it in any way that makes sense.


Universal ANSI plate + Acrylic GH60 Poker(from acrylic case) will be ok together,right? :p Sorry again,just want to be sure :D

Yes, just fine, as long as you remembered to order the Cherry PCB mount stabilizers. :)
Also, being international, I'm pretty sure we will have to put some name on the customs form.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dsan on Fri, 19 April 2013, 08:55:25
Quote
Yes, just fine, as long as you remembered to order the Cherry PCB mount stabilizers. :)
Also, being international, I'm pretty sure we will have to put some name on the customs form.

Thank you so much :D
Do I need to update the order by myself?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: boost on Fri, 19 April 2013, 08:59:01
HOLY ****...430+ PCB's ordered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 19 April 2013, 09:04:41
Thank you so much :D
Do I need to update the order by myself?

No, you did it right already.


HOLY ****...430+ PCB's ordered.

Yes, so far. 50 of those are for imsto, but still!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 19 April 2013, 09:05:17
I'm having it either way but is the part assembled PCB $30 (as in the first post) or $40 (as on the order form)?  Also, seriously, b****r the DIY kit - that looks impossible!  Especially for the sake of $5 but even for $15!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 19 April 2013, 09:06:43
I'm having it either way but is the part assembled PCB $30 (as in the first post) or $40 (as on the order form)?  Also, seriously, b****r the DIY kit - that looks impossible!  Especially for the sake of $5 but even for $15!

It's $30.

And it's not impossible, just improbable!
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: aggiejy on Fri, 19 April 2013, 09:19:44
Question... I placed a switch order with 7bit for some Whites and put "GH60" on it. However, I don't want to hold up my Gh60 order if it's ready before the switches. (They aren't my only switches, so most impt to get my Gh60s first!)

So the question is: should I ask to add direct shipping to my 7bit order, or would I have the option of paying you guys additional shipping to proxy the switches later?

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: eon on Fri, 19 April 2013, 09:42:24
Does the HHKB plate still has a bottom row for 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 .15 ? I'm quite confused with this plate, it's tagged as "true" HHKB in the order confirmation page. Wondering if things have changed.

Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 19 April 2013, 09:49:53
I'm having it either way but is the part assembled PCB $30 (as in the first post) or $40 (as on the order form)?  Also, seriously, b****r the DIY kit - that looks impossible!  Especially for the sake of $5 but even for $15!

It's $30.

And it's not impossible, just improbable!

That makes the pre-assembled option all the more appealing in my eyes - $5 to avoid all that hassle!  Even the Ergo Dox is all through hole (at least it looks that way) and that looks complicated to build...

Thanks for getting back to me

GK
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ItsBc on Fri, 19 April 2013, 09:52:28
Finally signed up for the GB. Can't wait ^_^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 19 April 2013, 09:53:53
Question... I placed a switch order with 7bit for some Whites and put "GH60" on it. However, I don't want to hold up my Gh60 order if it's ready before the switches. (They aren't my only switches, so most impt to get my Gh60s first!)

So the question is: should I ask to add direct shipping to my 7bit order, or would I have the option of paying you guys additional shipping to proxy the switches later?

Thanks!

If it were me, I would just have 7bit direct ship those switches to you. The GH60 shipping tag is more for people who need assembly.


Does the HHKB plate still has a bottom row for 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 .15 ? I'm quite confused with this plate, it's tagged as "true" HHKB in the order confirmation page. Wondering if things have changed.

Thanks.

Yes, that is still the layout. The other HHKB layout with the 6u spacebar is just for a few of us fools who may want that option with a case, and has nothing to do with any plates offered in this GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 19 April 2013, 10:36:11
Couple of questions pertaining to the spreadsheet (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=ae397ad5dec9dcac1cf8902258ac4def&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D41464.msg858832%23new&v=1&libid=1366385510772&out=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fspreadsheet%2Fccc%3Fkey%3D0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE%26usp%3Dsharing&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack.org%2Findex.php%3Fboard%3D70.0&title=GH60%20Group%20Buy&txt=Order%20confirmation&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13663856770662)...
One, the row 2 is hidden in the spreadsheet, is that my order? One, who's order is row 2? Is that JCrouse, Halverson etc that don't have any orders submitted?
Two, a couple of users have had nothing in their order, ones that popped out at me were Jcrouse, Halverson, and Longweight to name a few... That seems to be a slight problem?
Three, is the form auto updating? If so, I don't see my order. (Placed by Prdlm2009, but shipping to me) EDIT: I'm a dummy. I see it now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 19 April 2013, 10:42:07
Longweight has definitely cancelled his order if it helps...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 19 April 2013, 10:42:57
Couple of questions pertaining to the spreadsheet (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=ae397ad5dec9dcac1cf8902258ac4def&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D41464.msg858832%23new&v=1&libid=1366385510772&out=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fspreadsheet%2Fccc%3Fkey%3D0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE%26usp%3Dsharing&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack.org%2Findex.php%3Fboard%3D70.0&title=GH60%20Group%20Buy&txt=Order%20confirmation&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13663856770662)...
One, the row 2 is hidden in the spreadsheet, is that my order?
Two, a couple of users have had nothing in their order, ones that popped out at me were Jcrouse, Halverson, and Longweight to name a few... That seems to be a slight problem?
Three, is the form auto updating? If so, I don't see my order. (Placed by Prldm2009, but shipping to me)

Row 2 is private. It's just order totals.
The users with nothing in their order have placed new updated orders. So I had to delete those old orders. But I don't delete rows from the spreadsheet, just in case something goes wrong. It's nothing for you to worry about. :)
I see the order. In the public spreadsheet. Maybe you are typing his username wrong? The "comments" field is also private.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: eon on Fri, 19 April 2013, 10:43:07
Does the HHKB plate still has a bottom row for 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 .15 ? I'm quite confused with this plate, it's tagged as "true" HHKB in the order confirmation page. Wondering if things have changed.

Thanks.

Yes, that is still the layout. The other HHKB layout with the 6u spacebar is just for a few of us fools who may want that option with a case, and has nothing to do with any plates offered in this GB.

Great. Thanks a lot jdcarpe.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 19 April 2013, 10:44:49
Couple of questions pertaining to the spreadsheet (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=ae397ad5dec9dcac1cf8902258ac4def&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D41464.msg858832%23new&v=1&libid=1366385510772&out=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fspreadsheet%2Fccc%3Fkey%3D0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE%26usp%3Dsharing&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack.org%2Findex.php%3Fboard%3D70.0&title=GH60%20Group%20Buy&txt=Order%20confirmation&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13663856770662)...
One, the row 2 is hidden in the spreadsheet, is that my order?
Two, a couple of users have had nothing in their order, ones that popped out at me were Jcrouse, Halverson, and Longweight to name a few... That seems to be a slight problem?
Three, is the form auto updating? If so, I don't see my order. (Placed by Prldm2009, but shipping to me)

Row 2 is private. It's just order totals.
The users with nothing in their order have placed new updated orders. So I had to delete those old orders. But I don't delete rows from the spreadsheet, just in case something goes wrong. It's nothing for you to worry about. :)
I see the order. In the public spreadsheet. Maybe you are typing his username wrong? The "comments" field is also private.
Gotcha, I edited my post after I realized my mistakes etc. Thank ya. BTW look at IMSTO go. 50 DIY kits. :eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Fri, 19 April 2013, 15:49:38
Sorry about this but I resubmitted my order again, bought another due to the price reducing to $30 :) I was unable to find the spacebar wire length for HHKB so added a comment. Hope i've not complicated matters.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 19 April 2013, 17:15:36
I just updated the remaining order changes that were submitted up to this point. Jdcarpe did most of them though :)

And please no more PMs for order changes. It will get buried to the next page within 2 days and I won't remember. Just fill the form. I also hid a lot of the rows in the public confirmation form. Don't worry about those, they're just duplicate orders from changes, so your name doesn't show up twice.

Elton, please just submit a new order. You changed your order 8 times, sometimes adding stuff and sometimes changing stuff. Too confusing so just submit a new order.

I have a semi-important update soon...
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 19 April 2013, 17:18:44
I have a semi-important update soon...

Hmmmm I was about to submit my order, but I guess I'll wait a little longer :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: fydo on Fri, 19 April 2013, 17:21:17
Phew, finally got around to filling out my order. This is an exciting project!

I have a semi-important update soon...

The suspense! :o
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cobraj on Fri, 19 April 2013, 23:39:43
I have a semi-important update soon...

Hmmmm I was about to submit my order, but I guess I'll wait a little longer :)

Haha.
How intriguing :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 19 April 2013, 23:54:09
Haha.
How intriguing :P

I originally had some very irrational ideas going through my head like a free Aluminum Case for anyone who bought a full kit!! ROFL
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 00:19:27
semi-important updates

let's hear em  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 20 April 2013, 00:23:32
I'm currently rendering all the additional layouts and I'm posting them one by one as they finish. Look at the OP for now. Takes a bit of setup time for each one :/

Basically just some price updates, PCB, plates, layouts, etc.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jmneuv on Sat, 20 April 2013, 02:43:00
Thank you.
Looks like most of the plates don't support off center spacebar (cherry); Would a wider slot weaken the support too much to allow for plate mount?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 20 April 2013, 03:00:46
Sorry I havent been keeping up with this. what switches will be avaliable? and will the plates fit the prototype?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 20 April 2013, 03:24:50
When I thought I had my order down, the OP changes now I think i've got the wrong plate <_<
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 20 April 2013, 04:13:12
Sorry I havent been keeping up with this. what switches will be avaliable? and will the plates fit the prototype?
Green, Grey, Blue, Red, Black, Brown, and.... I think that's it.... No White or Clear, I remember that and those Greys are tactile 80cn ones, not Dark Grey linear.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ItsBc on Sat, 20 April 2013, 06:01:05
Do we still need to order switches from the DT bot? or no.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moebius on Sat, 20 April 2013, 06:20:36
Hi.

I just registered here, and don't even own a mechanical keyboard :(

But hey, this looks like the place to be :)

Need some assistance before I order:

1. GH60 PCB (SMD Presoldered)
2. ANSI 1.5x with short R-shift and split backspace
3. 1x cherry (plate-mounted) stabilizer set
4. ??x MX blue switches
5. Assembly service

What kind of spacebar wire do I need? And how many switches should I order?

How much work should I expect to do myself (other than ordering keycaps, case and usb-wire)?

- Moebius

EDIT: Oh, and what color(switches) do you recomend? (The keyboard is for programming in emacs) :)

EDIT: Oh, and does EAA/EFTA count as EU? (In case of shipping) Or do you guys ship world wide anyway?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Sat, 20 April 2013, 07:05:20
Do we still need to order switches from the DT bot? or no.

Nope.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Sat, 20 April 2013, 07:13:22
1. GH60 PCB (SMD Presoldered)
2. ANSI 1.5x with short R-shift and split backspace
3. 1x cherry (plate-mounted) stabilizer set
4. ??x MX blue switches
5. Assembly service

What kind of spacebar wire do I need? And how many switches should I order?

7x spacebar
65 keys (61 standard ansi + split backspace + split right shift + 2 spare)

How much work should I expect to do myself (other than ordering keycaps, case and usb-wire)?
You're getting the PCB with plate and switches mounted, and a standard layout firmware installed. Just drop into the case (or whatever your case requires you to do), plop the caps on, plug the cable in, done.

EDIT: Oh, and what color(switches) do you recomend? (The keyboard is for programming in emacs) :)

There's no way anyone can tell you what switches are good for you. What you use your keyboard for doesn't really influence it as much as how you type. People say MX Blue are good for typing/coding, but that doesn't mean anything, really. It's all purely down to taste.

Grab yourself a sampler kit from WASD (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/wasd-sampler-kit.html) if you've really never laid fingers on a mechanical switch. It doesn't give you the full picture of actually typing on them, but at least you'll have an idea.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ItsBc on Sat, 20 April 2013, 08:02:42
Does this new switch supplier have different colors? I selected light grey on my order, but would prefer clears if possible.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Sat, 20 April 2013, 08:17:09
Does this new switch supplier have different colors? I selected light grey on my order, but would prefer clears if possible.

Green, Grey, Blue, Red, Black, Brown, and.... I think that's it.... No White or Clear, I remember that and those Greys are tactile 80cn ones, not Dark Grey linear.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moebius on Sat, 20 April 2013, 08:58:22

There's no way anyone can tell you what switches are good for you. What you use your keyboard for doesn't really influence it as much as how you type. People say MX Blue are good for typing/coding, but that doesn't mean anything, really. It's all purely down to taste.

Grab yourself a sampler kit from WASD (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/wasd-sampler-kit.html) if you've really never laid fingers on a mechanical switch. It doesn't give you the full picture of actually typing on them, but at least you'll have an idea.
Thanks a lot!

Is it possible to replace the switches later on?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Sat, 20 April 2013, 09:08:30

There's no way anyone can tell you what switches are good for you. What you use your keyboard for doesn't really influence it as much as how you type. People say MX Blue are good for typing/coding, but that doesn't mean anything, really. It's all purely down to taste.

Grab yourself a sampler kit from WASD (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/wasd-sampler-kit.html) if you've really never laid fingers on a mechanical switch. It doesn't give you the full picture of actually typing on them, but at least you'll have an idea.
Thanks a lot!

Is it possible to replace the switches later on?

Most certainly. It requires some soldering, though. It's not hard, but pretty laborious. Still, make sure you do your homework first.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 20 April 2013, 09:21:19
FYI, if you want Clears, but don't plan on using them stock, i.e. you are planning to make ergo clears, then MX Greys will work the same for you. They have the exact same stem profile as clears, only a stiffer spring, which you wouldn't be using anyway.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:02:42

There's no way anyone can tell you what switches are good for you. What you use your keyboard for doesn't really influence it as much as how you type. People say MX Blue are good for typing/coding, but that doesn't mean anything, really. It's all purely down to taste.

Grab yourself a sampler kit from WASD (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/wasd-sampler-kit.html) if you've really never laid fingers on a mechanical switch. It doesn't give you the full picture of actually typing on them, but at least you'll have an idea.
Thanks a lot!

Is it possible to replace the switches later on?

Most certainly. It requires some soldering, though. It's not hard, but pretty laborious. Still, make sure you do your homework first.

These wouldn't require soldering as you should be able to just open up the switch and change the stem and spring (well apart from removing the caps lock led to open the switch housing)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:20:58
I'm currently rendering all the additional layouts and I'm posting them one by one as they finish. Look at the OP for now. Takes a bit of setup time for each one :/

Basically just some price updates, PCB, plates, layouts, etc.

Could you provide the specs or files for the plate and PCB? I am working on a case in AutoCAD and it would definitely help.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:23:42
Great work with the front page, WFD. It looks much better and, IMO, much easier to understand which plate relates to which layout one may wish to choose.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: noxwood on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:27:03
I'm not quite sure about the assembly: Does it include ergo clear-type modding/lubing/stickers?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:31:19
No. Just building the board.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:33:45
thanks for the awesome update WFD!

you guys are doing a stellar job on this right now
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: noxwood on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:38:58
Who would be available for that kind of assembly?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 20 April 2013, 14:22:36
Hey JD or WFD, are the people assembling these willing to lube and sticker (at extra cost) or should I line someone up to do this?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 20 April 2013, 14:54:41
Hey JD or WFD, are the people assembling these willing to lube and sticker (at extra cost) or should I line someone up to do this?

I can probably do this, and I"m sure jdcarpe is willing to do it also, but I sure komar won't lol. And there's no reason why you can't do it yourself, the plate supports removable switches. Not being able to solder is understandable because it requires equipment, but lubing and stickers doesn't only requires the lube/sticker and patience.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 20 April 2013, 15:07:05
order DEADLINE in 3 days


PCB


Presoldered SMD - $30
DIY kit - $22
bare PCB - $6


Those are updated prices at this quantity. The bare PCB is a new option you can get. It does not come with any other components. You'll have to source all your own SMD components and solder them on for a fully functional PCB. This is offered in case you can source the components for cheaper. I attached the BOM file that details the components, you're welcome to use different types as long as they have the same specs. Mouser and Digikey prices in the US are shown, but any supplier works too.

If you're extremely tight on budget right now, then grab a bare PCB (and plate?), and everything else can be sourced later to complete your build.



Plates

I've reorganized the OP to show pics of the actual plates, and the possible layout each plate supports. Basically all 1.25x size modifier plates only supports the one layout it's intended for, and 1.5x size modifier plates supports full winkey, WKL, HHKB, and 10x spacebar. Universal plate supports all layouts, so I'm not going to do redundant renders for these.

The new universal plate for 10x spacebar supports 1.25x and 1.5x - 1x modifiers. You can also use normal 7x spacebar and 1.5x modifiers, just no 1.25x and 6.25x modifiers. This one will be made by special request only, since quantity will not be high enough for GB prices.

IvanIvanovich plate layout is canceled, there are zero orders for that plate. ISO 1.5x, ISO 1.5x pure shift, and Samwisekoi's layout have less than 10 orders. Those two ISO plates might have to be merged, and Samwisekoi's might cost more because of the quantities.

Currently, price is still $16. I can't get an exact amount because the company I'm getting these cut from is a relatively large company, and their quoting process must follow certain procedures. They need exact numbers, and they give out official documented quotes so any changes needs to be requoted and has an expiration. The size and amount of cutting required for these GH60 plate is roughly 68% of a TKL plate (~$23.36), so 68% of a TKL plate cost is projected at ~$16.

Quote
Hi ***,
 
With my apologies, we will not be able to provide any preliminary pricing.  Our Estimating Department has limited resources and that preparing quotes for budgetary estimates is not cost effective for our company.  We would prefer to quote quantities only when they’re ready for production.

 
Please submit your RFQ once you’ve finalized your quantities and anticipate placing an order.


A prototype is currently being made to make sure everything fits.



Misc
Some orders requested for costar 7x wires. I'm not sure this will be available, as WASDkeyboards is not able to provide them. Costar stabilizers are $7 per set.


If you want white switches, we might be able to get them separately from a supplier, something like this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42415.0). For clears, you can get mx greys, they have the exact same stem. I don't imagine very many will use the stock clear springs. Or if you're willing to settle for some used clears, then it can be offered.

I also added alixinhzai's acrylic case (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40468.0) to the OP.


 PS – don’t quote this whole post if you want to respond to just one point.
 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 20 April 2013, 16:16:36
Will Teensys be sold separatly?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 20 April 2013, 16:19:34
Hey JD or WFD, are the people assembling these willing to lube and sticker (at extra cost) or should I line someone up to do this?

I can probably do this, and I"m sure jdcarpe is willing to do it also, but I sure komar won't lol. And there's no reason why you can't do it yourself, the plate supports removable switches. Not being able to solder is understandable because it requires equipment, but lubing and stickers doesn't only requires the lube/sticker and patience.
Yeah I was thinking about that after I posted that. I guess it's time to step up! Thanks WFD.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jmneuv on Sat, 20 April 2013, 16:29:44
Rephrasing my question from before, those get lost easily in this thread:
Couldn't most of the plates have a wider hole for the spacebar switch to allow for cherry off-center 6.25 spacebars?

p.s: awesome price on the bare pcb, thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Sat, 20 April 2013, 16:41:52
Will Teensys be sold separatly?

gh60 has a atmega controller

there are no teensys :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 20 April 2013, 16:42:25
Rephrasing my question from before, those get lost easily in this thread:
Couldn't most of the plates have a wider hole for the spacebar switch to allow for cherry off-center 6.25 spacebars?

p.s: awesome price on the bare pcb, thanks

I can probably change it last minute, although then one whole side would be unsupported, similar to the capslock. This doesn't matter too much, but I designed these 1.25x plates to have unambiguous switch mounting. More newb friendly also. I don't think there are a lot of people that use the off-centered cherry spacebars anyways. The unversal plate fully support what you're asking for.

Is anyone else planning to use Cherry offset spacebar?


Will Teensys be sold separatly?
gh60 has a atmega controller
there are no teensys :)

Actually, teensy also uses a atmega controller, but it's on a daughterboard soldered on by pins onto the main PCB. GH60 just has the atmega soldered on directly to the main PCB, no daughterboard ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jmneuv on Sat, 20 April 2013, 17:04:53
Ah well, you know i don't want to inconvenience you or anyone else. I kinda blurted out because i assumed from the capslock that space would be also optional (before you kindly provided the plate pics).
Being a lefty, i might be better off not using a switch offset to the right and doing a stem mod instead.

p.s: i decided against the universal plate since i'm not a fan of the mixed mounts - it's a nice design though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: cancelx on Sat, 20 April 2013, 18:32:46
Ordered 2, can't wait! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: amzee on Sat, 20 April 2013, 21:18:12
Unfortunately got a KBT Pure before I learned of the GH60s existance :/ I was wondering if ordering the Universal ANSI Plate would work to serve as a plate for a Pure PCB?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Sat, 20 April 2013, 21:51:47
there's actually a pure plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 20 April 2013, 22:06:37
 ANSI 1.25x with short R-Shift - Pure
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 21 April 2013, 01:12:50
Unfortunately got a KBT Pure before I learned of the GH60s existance :/ I was wondering if ordering the Universal ANSI Plate would work to serve as a plate for a Pure PCB?

There is a dedicated PURE plate you can order, even if you don't need the GH60 PCB. Same goes with the poker plate, it's compatible with the actual poker PCB. The universal plate fits both of these.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moebius on Sun, 21 April 2013, 02:31:26
I placed a new order. Can anyone please remove my old one? I also tried to change my old order yesterday, please ignore that (things got messed up).

Im sorry  :'(

EDIT: I've sent a new order-change with my final requests. Sorry for the mess (I paniced a bit due to the close deadline).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: agor on Sun, 21 April 2013, 02:55:28
FYI, if you want Clears, but don't plan on using them stock, i.e. you are planning to make ergo clears, then MX Greys will work the same for you. They have the exact same stem profile as clears, only a stiffer spring, which you wouldn't be using anyway.

Updated my order saying whatever will cost less (clear/grey), hope that is fine.
Also added some switches to account for defectives, and to make clear which switches should be soldered on which board :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: HannibalChew on Sun, 21 April 2013, 04:20:58
I changed some things on my order yesterday but they haven't changed on the spreadsheet yet :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: 4814 on Sun, 21 April 2013, 04:27:18
Are any hhkb cases planned besides the one from WFD?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: zenuty on Sun, 21 April 2013, 07:20:25
Hello WFD

im order completed

i need WFD's Assembly PCB

i want feeling WFD's Assembly PCB

i excited WFD's Assembly PCB


Thankyou for Work
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Moebius on Sun, 21 April 2013, 08:39:47
Aww! :mad: Something came up, I have to cancel my order. Feels bad :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 21 April 2013, 09:52:37
Aww! :mad: Something came up, I have to cancel my order. Feels bad :(
surely someone got an extra they would part with later. no worries moe!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Niall on Sun, 21 April 2013, 10:41:06
After debating whether or not to place the order the past month, and then promptly forgetting the whole thing this week, I've finally placed my order! Hopefully it's not too late.  :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jmneuv on Sun, 21 April 2013, 10:54:17
How many stabilizers does a costar set (or any set) contain?

oh i guess for 5 switches (reading first page helps)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: codyeatworld on Sun, 21 April 2013, 11:04:11
Can I see what I ordered? I need to add more and possibly change things.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 21 April 2013, 11:19:40
Orders are https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing)

You seem to have two rows - one blank and one not...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Sai on Sun, 21 April 2013, 11:23:40
finally order one. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Paranoid on Sun, 21 April 2013, 11:33:30
Also ordered, couldn't resist after all :) And I apparantly forgot to mention the amount of stabs. That would be only 1 set. Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 21 April 2013, 11:58:14
I changed some things on my order yesterday but they haven't changed on the spreadsheet yet :(

If you used the "Order Changes" link, it is updated manually by us organizers. I have been busy this weekend, and haven't even looked at it in a couple days. You are better off submitting a new order, and in the comments section, write "new updated order."
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: HannibalChew on Sun, 21 April 2013, 13:56:10

If you used the "Order Changes" link, it is updated manually by us organizers. I have been busy this weekend, and haven't even looked at it in a couple days. You are better off submitting a new order, and in the comments section, write "new updated order."

Thanks, i just submitted my new order. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 21 April 2013, 14:34:29
Order submitted! Thanks WFD, jdcarpe, komar, and anyone else I missed :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: iAmAhab on Sun, 21 April 2013, 15:29:33
Never owned a mechanical keyboard before and this seems like a fun way to jump in.
60% is what I want but I have not been able to find one with ISO layout, now I can just make it myself, how convenient.

Order submitted, should be fun soldering this thing together.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: orlando on Sun, 21 April 2013, 15:49:05
Finally placed my order!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 21 April 2013, 16:10:09
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.11.GzLLrv&id=24215712204&

looks like the chinese are going to be very happy :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 21 April 2013, 16:12:54
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.11.GzLLrv&id=24215712204&

looks like the chinese are going to be very happy :)

Imsto only bought 35?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: guilleguillaume on Sun, 21 April 2013, 17:57:28
Order sent! I decided to get 4 PCB :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 21 April 2013, 18:02:29
Misc
Some orders requested for costar 7x wires. I'm not sure this will be available, as WASDkeyboards is not able to provide them. Costar stabilizers are $7 per set.

If costar 7x wires aren't available, then can you change mine to PCB-mounted stabilizers with 7x wires?

Is it simple to make your own?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 21 April 2013, 18:30:22
Misc
Some orders requested for costar 7x wires. I'm not sure this will be available, as WASDkeyboards is not able to provide them. Costar stabilizers are $7 per set.

If costar 7x wires aren't available, then can you change mine to PCB-mounted stabilizers with 7x wires?

Is it simple to make your own?


you would need the right wire and a wire bender.
also you would need measurements on where to bend it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mauri on Sun, 21 April 2013, 18:36:09
So I'm sorta confused, does one order the switches via the order form, or separately via deskthority?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Sun, 21 April 2013, 18:38:14
So I'm sorta confused, does one order the switches via the order form, or separately via deskthority?

Please use the order form for this group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 21 April 2013, 18:46:12
still have to place my order....deciding on a second one....thanks JD, Komar and WFD for this! great job organizing it
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: chel- on Sun, 21 April 2013, 18:50:06
Does anyone have any more details on assembly services? I have no interest in actually doing any work if I were to join this XD
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: stoic-lemon on Sun, 21 April 2013, 18:54:07
A month and a half of procrastinating and my order is in. I guess I'm one of the few going for the Samwisekoi plate. Would've ordered more, but the new strong Yen is killing me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:33:29
What spacebar stabilizer is for the HHKB, standard and Pure?1
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:50:12
What spacebar stabilizer is for the HHKB, standard and Pure?1

HHKB spacebars are 7u (not quite sure)
standard (i assume you mean ansi 1.25) and pure are 6.25u
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:53:49
Would you still need a 7 stabilizer if you are going to do the split spacebar? or would you need two 3.5 or something?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 21 April 2013, 19:54:54
Seeing even backspace needs stabilizer..So anything bigger than 2x needs one..


Would lister make 7x wires for us? :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 21 April 2013, 20:10:43
Would you still need a 7 stabilizer if you are going to do the split spacebar? or would you need two 3.5 or something?

there is no split spacebar? or did i miss something?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 21 April 2013, 20:51:28
Hi, I'm sorry to be dense.  One question I had was clarification on where to order switches.  Thank you Mauri and Mkaito for clarifying to order here, not 7-bit.

Do I need to get 12 of the switches PCB-mount and the others plate-mount if I'm using the universal plate?

Did we ever decide about WASD LED's?  What is the LED color?  Is there a choice?

Could someone please check my order?  I want 2x Poker clones with the option to switch to HHKB layout later.  Just switches for 1 now.  I can solder myself.  (maybe this will also help others who are a little unsure of their order)

---
GH60 PBC quantity *$40 per PCB, SMD presoldered: 2
 
GH60 DIY kit quantity*$25, requries SMD soldering: 0
 
Universal ANSI plate: 2
 
Universal ISO plate: 0
 
Poker plate quantity ANSI 1.25x: 0
...
 
Switches and stabilizers (stabilizers are in sets, each set is enough for 1 whole keyboard. Switches are per switch)
Costar stabs, Plate-mounted, PCB-mounted cherry stabs (specify spacebar wire size). The switch color you want. FORMAT: quantity x item
2 sets PCB-mounted cherry stabs (6.25 spacebar)
14x PCB-mount brown switches (a few extras)
53x plate-mount brown switches (a few extras)

 
Assembly service *
 No
...

Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: fydo on Mon, 22 April 2013, 01:36:29
For clears, you can get mx greys, they have the exact same stem. I don't imagine very many will use the stock clear springs.

I didn't realise that you could use MX Greys for an ergo clear mod. Excellent! I've updated my order.
Thanks again for this excellent group buy. Really looking forward to putting my GH60 together. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: korne on Mon, 22 April 2013, 01:54:09
Placed my order
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: electrogeek007 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 02:28:14
Placed my order, now the wait begins...  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Glod on Mon, 22 April 2013, 02:31:10
just made a last minute order change

if organizers could PM me to confirm my order makes sense that would be great or i guess i can just wait till the final order confirmation thingy comes up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Batmann on Mon, 22 April 2013, 03:14:29
ordered,
and awesome OP btw, being able to see all the layouts with the renders is really helpfull, great job  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 22 April 2013, 04:14:22
Once orders are closed and payments taken, what's the rough estimate as to production time for the PCBs and plates?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mauri on Mon, 22 April 2013, 04:47:21
Lastly, which switches are available for this gb?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Sai on Mon, 22 April 2013, 04:50:57
Lastly, which switches are available for this gb?

blue, green, tactile grey(corret me if i am wrong), red, black, brown except for clear and white mx.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mauri on Mon, 22 April 2013, 04:55:03
Lastly, which switches are available for this gb?

blue, green, tactile grey(corret me if i am wrong), red, black, brown except for clear and white mx.

Aight, thanks I think I'll order aswell :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: vardhana on Mon, 22 April 2013, 05:02:24
Misc
Some orders requested for costar 7x wires. I'm not sure this will be available, as WASDkeyboards is not able to provide them. Costar stabilizers are $7 per set.

According to "Phantom Group Buy" in DT wiki, there was STAB700(Costar 7 units stabiliser). http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_Group_Buy
Does anyone know how did the Phantom organizers provide Costar 7 units stabilizer?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Wraul on Mon, 22 April 2013, 05:39:49
According to "Phantom Group Buy" in DT wiki, there was STAB700(Costar 7 units stabiliser). http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_Group_Buy
Does anyone know how did the Phantom organizers provide Costar 7 units stabilizer?

Someone made each of those by hand.
It might have been litster, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 22 April 2013, 05:47:03
So umm yea gb for the pre soldered pcbs went through already?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 22 April 2013, 06:04:18
So umm yea gb for the pre soldered pcbs went through already?
No?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 22 April 2013, 06:11:14
still deciding on switches for my second GH60...

what i decide on won't be able to be changed until september... so much pressure
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: HannibalChew on Mon, 22 April 2013, 06:25:34
Can someone remove my first order from the spreadsheet? I have 2 orders :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: camelCase on Mon, 22 April 2013, 06:36:06
still deciding on switches for my second GH60...

what i decide on won't be able to be changed until september... so much pressure

How did you order your switches? The OP says to go over to deskthority and order there, but I see people ordering them through this thread's gh60 official order form. I'm wondering which way will get you your switches faster?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: korne on Mon, 22 April 2013, 06:37:36
Updated my order with


-2x PCB (SMD presoldered) - $30
-2x bare PCB
- 1 universal ISO
- 1 universal ANSI
- 1x Cherry (PCB-mounted) stabilizers
- 1x Cherry (Plate-mounted) stabilizers
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Mon, 22 April 2013, 06:40:58
I submitted a brand-new order because I freaked out and I wasn't sure if I had my order correct for a poker layout board.  Please delete all previous orders and order changes and go with the latest one (submitted Sunday April 21st).  I added a note in the comments section on the order form to delete all previous orders and order changes.

Thanks again!

-Tad
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 22 April 2013, 07:09:59
still deciding on switches for my second GH60...

what i decide on won't be able to be changed until september... so much pressure

How did you order your switches? The OP says to go over to deskthority and order there, but I see people ordering them through this thread's gh60 official order form. I'm wondering which way will get you your switches faster?

well you can order on the GH60 order form in the OP, or you can go to Deskthority and get the switches via that GB. I am getting half of my switches from somewhere else separate from this GB, and the second half on my GH order form. Not sure at the moment which one goes faster, but i will come back and update you.

Also, today is the final day to submit an order, so figure out what you want!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mauri on Mon, 22 April 2013, 07:16:40
Edited my order, had bit of a mishap
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: salmo on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:08:09
I put in a new order to replace my existing one (noted it in the comments).  The new one landed, but it appears the original hasn't been removed.

Not trying to be impatient, I know there is a lot of churn going on right now as the deadline nears.  Just wanted to make sure I noted it.  As much as I would love more GH60's, I'm pretty sure that would not be "good for my marriage." :)

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: snoozeymon on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:08:58
Order placed!

Unfortunately i do not know if my order-information was transferred correctly, since i did not get any confirmation via email or pm??? (except emails from deskthority)

e: nvm just found my order in the spreadsheet
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:15:51
Hi, I'm sorry to be dense.  One question I had was clarification on where to order switches.  Thank you Mauri and Mkaito for clarifying to order here, not 7-bit.

Do I need to get 12 of the switches PCB-mount and the others plate-mount if I'm using the universal plate?

Did we ever decide about WASD LED's?  What is the LED color?  Is there a choice?

Could someone please check my order?  I want 2x Poker clones with the option to switch to HHKB layout later.  Just switches for 1 now.  I can solder myself.  (maybe this will also help others who are a little unsure of their order)

---
GH60 PBC quantity *$40 per PCB, SMD presoldered: 2
 
GH60 DIY kit quantity*$25, requries SMD soldering: 0
 
Universal ANSI plate: 2
 
Universal ISO plate: 0
 
Poker plate quantity ANSI 1.25x: 0
...
 
Switches and stabilizers (stabilizers are in sets, each set is enough for 1 whole keyboard. Switches are per switch)
Costar stabs, Plate-mounted, PCB-mounted cherry stabs (specify spacebar wire size). The switch color you want. FORMAT: quantity x item
2 sets PCB-mounted cherry stabs (6.25 spacebar)
14x PCB-mount brown switches (a few extras)
53x plate-mount brown switches (a few extras)

 
Assembly service *
 No
...

Thanks for the help!

Is there anyone who could please help with my questions and review my order?  Do I need to order a mix of plate- and pcb-mount switches??
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:28:22
Can someone remove my first order from the spreadsheet? I have 2 orders :p

Done.


still deciding on switches for my second GH60...

what i decide on won't be able to be changed until september... so much pressure

How did you order your switches? The OP says to go over to deskthority and order there, but I see people ordering them through this thread's gh60 official order form. I'm wondering which way will get you your switches faster?

You can order switches from this GB. We can supply MX Red, Blue, Brown, Black, Green, or Grey (tactile). Ordering them from this GB should be as fast as any method.


I submitted a brand-new order because I freaked out and I wasn't sure if I had my order correct for a poker layout board.  Please delete all previous orders and order changes and go with the latest one (submitted Sunday April 21st).  I added a note in the comments section on the order form to delete all previous orders and order changes.

Thanks again!

-Tad

Done.


I put in a new order to replace my existing one (noted it in the comments).  The new one landed, but it appears the original hasn't been removed.

Not trying to be impatient, I know there is a lot of churn going on right now as the deadline nears.  Just wanted to make sure I noted it.  As much as I would love more GH60's, I'm pretty sure that would not be "good for my marriage." :)

Thanks!

Done.


Hi, I'm sorry to be dense.  One question I had was clarification on where to order switches.  Thank you Mauri and Mkaito for clarifying to order here, not 7-bit.

Do I need to get 12 of the switches PCB-mount and the others plate-mount if I'm using the universal plate?

Did we ever decide about WASD LED's?  What is the LED color?  Is there a choice?

Could someone please check my order?  I want 2x Poker clones with the option to switch to HHKB layout later.  Just switches for 1 now.  I can solder myself.  (maybe this will also help others who are a little unsure of their order)

---
GH60 PBC quantity *$40 per PCB, SMD presoldered: 2
 
GH60 DIY kit quantity*$25, requries SMD soldering: 0
 
Universal ANSI plate: 2
 
Universal ISO plate: 0
 
Poker plate quantity ANSI 1.25x: 0
...
 
Switches and stabilizers (stabilizers are in sets, each set is enough for 1 whole keyboard. Switches are per switch)
Costar stabs, Plate-mounted, PCB-mounted cherry stabs (specify spacebar wire size). The switch color you want. FORMAT: quantity x item
2 sets PCB-mounted cherry stabs (6.25 spacebar)
14x PCB-mount brown switches (a few extras)
53x plate-mount brown switches (a few extras)

 
Assembly service *
 No
...

Thanks for the help!

Is there anyone who could please help with my questions and review my order?  Do I need to order a mix of plate- and pcb-mount switches??

Order looks correct to me. The mix of PCB mount and plate mount switches will work great for your assembly. There will be holes with solder pads for LEDs on every switch, but no traces to them. I'm still not 100% sure if the WASD-Esc will have traces for LEDs, but I believe that is the plan.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: thoere on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:30:52
I ordered my switches from the GB on Deskthority and had them shipped to the gh60 distributor. How do you associate my order with those switches?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: raphdu57 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:33:56
First of all I really wanted to thank anyone involved in the realization of this project, you've done an amazing work so far !

Would it also be possible to remove my old order ? I submitted a new one a few days ago !

Also @heedpantsnow You may need 2x 7x spacebar  wires if you want a true HHKB layout.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:47:45
There will be holes with solder pads for LEDs on every switch, but no traces to them. I'm still not 100% sure if the WASD-Esc will have traces for LEDs, but I believe that is the plan.

Can you actually make your own traces, in case you want LEDs at some point?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mauri on Mon, 22 April 2013, 08:58:11
I ordered my switches from the GB on Deskthority and had them shipped to the gh60 distributor. How do you associate my order with those switches?

I'd assume by your email or note in invoice or sth, but I'd want a confirmation on that aswell.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: chel- on Mon, 22 April 2013, 09:21:15
Can someone please clarify - If I'm going for ANSI 1.5x - full 1.5x mod, WKL, or HHKB do I a need 7x or 6.25x spacebar wire?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 09:38:18
Can someone please clarify - If I'm going for ANSI 1.5x - full 1.5x mod, WKL, or HHKB do I a need 7x or 6.25x spacebar wire?

You need a 7x wire, which is why I ignored your last order change request. :)


UPDATE:

THE SWITCH SUPPLIER JUST INFORMED ME THAT THE ONLY GREY SWITCHES HE HAS ARE ACTUALLY LINEAR (DARK GREY).

THESE WILL NOT WORK FOR "ERGO-CLEAR" MOD.

SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION, AS I WAS JUST INFORMED OF THIS JUST NOW. IF YOU NEED TO CANCEL SWITCHES, PLEASE SUBMIT AN ORDER CHANGE REQUEST.


You can still order MX Clear or MX Grey (tactile) from 7bit on Deskthority, or we will place the order with 7bit if you order them through this GB.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: chel- on Mon, 22 April 2013, 09:49:09
Can someone please clarify - If I'm going for ANSI 1.5x - full 1.5x mod, WKL, or HHKB do I a need 7x or 6.25x spacebar wire?

You need a 7x wire, which is why I ignored your last order change request. :)



thanks XD
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: r3dx on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:18:06
Finally submitted my order!  :D

Thanks to everyone who put this together!  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:22:20
I was trying to read through everything to see what I need to change in my order, but is the Universal 10x the only one that will support a 10x spacebar or do all ansi 150 layouts support it also?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:25:03
I was trying to read through everything to see what I need to change in my order, but is the Universal 10x the only one that will support a 10x spacebar or do all ansi 150 layouts support it also?

All 1.5x layout plates support the 10x spacebar. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: T0ken on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:27:50
There will be holes with solder pads for LEDs on every switch, but no traces to them. I'm still not 100% sure if the WASD-Esc will have traces for LEDs, but I believe that is the plan.

Can you actually make your own traces, in case you want LEDs at some point?

There won't be traces on the PCB; you can solder jumper wires to connect the LEDs. I imagine you could design another PCB daughtherboard to go underneath for the LEDs to, but it would be expensive to prototype it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:37:25
There will be holes with solder pads for LEDs on every switch, but no traces to them. I'm still not 100% sure if the WASD-Esc will have traces for LEDs, but I believe that is the plan.
Can you actually make your own traces, in case you want LEDs at some point?

There won't be traces on the PCB; you can solder jumper wires to connect the LEDs. I imagine you could design another PCB daughtherboard to go underneath for the LEDs to, but it would be expensive to prototype it.
I can't promise anything, but it looks like there is enough space so I may provide traces for most (probably not all) of the LEDs. The connections will form a matrix with rows and columns so it will be reasonably configurable.
Still, not promising anything, if that delays things or causes other problems, I'll drop it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: iAmAhab on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:42:41
Quick question, I didn't specifiy that I wanted plate mounted cherrys, I only wrote 63x browns. I did however order a plate, is it implied that I want plate mounted switches?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:44:50
There will be holes with solder pads for LEDs on every switch, but no traces to them. I'm still not 100% sure if the WASD-Esc will have traces for LEDs, but I believe that is the plan.
Can you actually make your own traces, in case you want LEDs at some point?

There won't be traces on the PCB; you can solder jumper wires to connect the LEDs. I imagine you could design another PCB daughtherboard to go underneath for the LEDs to, but it would be expensive to prototype it.
I can't promise anything, but it looks like there is enough space so I may provide traces for most (probably not all) of the LEDs. The connections will form a matrix with rows and columns so it will be reasonably configurable.
Still, not promising anything, if that delays things or causes other problems, I'll drop it.

I was thinking that a few LEDs would be useful to use as layer status indicators, for those who would like to play with 3+ layers, or for semi-permanent layers (switching to a layer and not switching back on keyup). Probably not a lot of LEDs, but a handful of them would probably be nice for playing around with.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:49:37
Quick question, I didn't specifiy that I wanted plate mounted cherrys, I only wrote 63x browns. I did however order a plate, is it implied that I want plate mounted switches?

Yes, if you ordered a plate, we will assume you want plate mounted switches, unless you specify otherwise.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: mkaito on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:51:04
Quick question, I didn't specifiy that I wanted plate mounted cherrys, I only wrote 63x browns. I did however order a plate, is it implied that I want plate mounted switches?

Yes, if you ordered a plate, we will assume you want plate mounted switches, unless you specify otherwise.

What would be the point of a plat sitting over PCB mounted switches?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:55:08
What would be the point of a plat sitting over PCB mounted switches?

I've done several Pokers that way, since they come with PCB-mount switches originally, of course. But plate mounted switches work just fine with a plate. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: iAmAhab on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:56:46
Excellent, thanks for the quick reply.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:59:46
How should we order Bare PCBs?

I just put it in the comments section since I didn't see an option on the order form... Just want to confirm this will work.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Mon, 22 April 2013, 11:02:22
How should we order Bare PCBs?

I just put it in the comments section since I didn't see an option on the order form... Just want to confirm this will work.

I can't imagine it being much cheaper getting the bare PCB considering the expected quantities.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 11:05:48
Bare PCB is $6. Includes nothing but the PCB, meaning you have to source your own controller and electronics.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Acetrak on Mon, 22 April 2013, 11:55:43
Almost forgot to order this, OOPS
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: daerid on Mon, 22 April 2013, 12:17:57
Almost forgot to order this, OOPS

Same here. Now I just gotta find a decent case.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Mon, 22 April 2013, 12:27:30
Bare PCB is $6. Includes nothing but the PCB, meaning you have to source your own controller and electronics.

Oh wow. Jk.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: aggiejy on Mon, 22 April 2013, 12:31:33
Provides good insurance for the future though... for instance I'm fairly certainly I wont need/want more than 3 boards, but I ordred an extra 2 bare PCBs just in case I change my mind later and they are hard to come by.  Can always track down the components... probably costing more granted.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: daerid on Mon, 22 April 2013, 12:47:34
That's actually a really good idea.
Title: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: duq on Mon, 22 April 2013, 12:54:30
Provides good insurance for the future though... for instance I'm fairly certainly I wont need/want more than 3 boards, but I ordred an extra 2 bare PCBs just in case I change my mind later and they are hard to come by.  Can always track down the components... probably costing more granted.

Damn, that's smart.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 22 April 2013, 12:56:18
So how are the orders for plates "samwisekoi" and "universal 10x" coming?

Certainly the "ANSI universal" will support the arrow keys the "samwisekoi" plate is designed for, and the only real reason to use the "universal 10x" (I think) would be to use a 10x spacebar with 1.25 modifiers.

Anyhow, I am about to place an order for more PCBs and plates, and I want to know how those two plates are going before I add to the mess.

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:06:18
So how are the orders for plates "samwisekoi" and "universal 10x" coming?

Certainly the "ANSI universal" will support the arrow keys the "samwisekoi" plate is designed for, and the only real reason to use the "universal 10x" (I think) would be to use a 10x spacebar with 1.25 modifiers.

Anyhow, I am about to place an order for more PCBs and plates, and I want to know how those two plates are going before I add to the mess.

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

If you're the only one who needs that plate, just have WFD hit me up with a drawing. I'll take care of it.


I think WFD will be running most of the lower quantity plates through me anyways (as far as I know)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:19:49
So how are the orders for plates "samwisekoi" and "universal 10x" coming?

Certainly the "ANSI universal" will support the arrow keys the "samwisekoi" plate is designed for, and the only real reason to use the "universal 10x" (I think) would be to use a 10x spacebar with 1.25 modifiers.

Anyhow, I am about to place an order for more PCBs and plates, and I want to know how those two plates are going before I add to the mess.

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

"samwisekoi" plate has 8 orders as of this moment, "Universal 10x" has zero.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:22:00
Where's the link to the order spreadsheet? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: rknize on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:24:07
^ please put this on the OP.  It's getting buried.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:24:12
Where's the link to the order spreadsheet? :)

(http://i.imgur.com/cGHxsSS.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: osxoep on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:24:38
Where's the link to the order spreadsheet? :)
Just for you, a bump:
https://docs.google.com/a/cydonia.im/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:27:40
Thanks jdcarpe and osxoep! I was looking all over the OP >.>
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: Tarzan on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:31:29
Thanks for the reminder on the Universal 10x option!  I updated my order to add one more PCB and a 10x-compatible plate plus stabilizers.  Wasn't sure what to put for the stabilizer wire length...?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:39:29
12 hours left. You guys are laggers. Almost all the orders were within the first two days or the last two lol. Give me some time to catch up with PMs, but this should address majority.

There is an option in the order form for bare PCBs. This would be good if you're on a tight budget now, and willing to source your own components later. Good chance to practice various types of soldering techniques on this cheap PCB too (about 49 tiny pads, 178 through-holes, and 160 other SMD pads). I've attached the BOM for all the components in a spreadsheet linked on the bottom of this post.

Capslock LED will be white based on the poll. You can verify your orders below instead of PMing me. Forgot to put in in the OP until now.


Order confirmation (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing)

list of PCB components below
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:46:35
Ordered three more soldered PCBs and two more plates, one of which (I believe) has the wrong picture on the OP:

ANSI 1.5x with short R-shift and split backspace - full 1.5x mod, WKL, or "true" HHKB

It is shown with a 2x backspace with stabs on the plate but a split backspace on the rendering.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: daerid on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:49:24
Submitted an addition to my order (2x bare pcbs) that's not showing up in the confirmation
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:50:09
Is it likely there will be a R2? I have a feeling if I buy the PCB now it'll just be sitting under my bed for half a year, and I don't have the cash for a plate etc atm.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:50:27
Submitted an addition to my order (2x bare pcbs) that's not showing up in the confirmation

It's not automated, bro. We have to update by hand... :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:53:25
Just to confirm (i know you hate that word now) ISO/ANSI 1.5x with short shift will require a 7x spacebar wire with the costars which is not available am I right?

Do Cherrys need wires? Are there 7x wires for those?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: numerus on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:54:20
Just order another one Universal ANSI to my order i m very happy  :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 13:57:45
Just to confirm (i know you hate that word now) ISO/ANSI 1.5x with short shift will require a 7x spacebar wire with the costars which is not available am I right?

Do Cherrys need wires? Are there 7x wires for those?

Yes, any 1.5x layout requires 7x (or 10x) spacebar and wire. The only spacebar wire available for Costar stabs is 6.25x.

Cherry stabilizers do require wires, and we will be able to find or bend 7x wires for those.



Also, just want to reiterate this, since it's now a page back:

UPDATE:

THE SWITCH SUPPLIER JUST INFORMED ME THAT THE ONLY GREY SWITCHES HE HAS ARE ACTUALLY LINEAR (DARK GREY).

THESE WILL NOT WORK FOR "ERGO-CLEAR" MOD.

SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION, AS I WAS JUST INFORMED OF THIS JUST NOW. IF YOU NEED TO CANCEL SWITCHES, PLEASE SUBMIT AN ORDER CHANGE REQUEST.


You can still order MX Clear or MX Grey (tactile) from 7bit on Deskthority, or we will place the order with 7bit if you order them through this GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: daerid on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:08:54
It's not automated, bro. We have to update by hand... :)

No worries! Question though: does that mean standard clears are not available through this group buy? I'm not interested in Ergo, just want regular old clears.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:10:48
It's not automated, bro. We have to update by hand... :)

No worries! Question though: does that mean standard clears are not available through this group buy? I'm not interested in Ergo, just want regular old clears.

Any switches ordered that we cannot source from our new supplier will be ordered from 7bit. We won't be finished collecting payments before his "preorder sale" ends, so prices may be higher, and lead times may be longer.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: jwaz on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:22:32
Sorry if I missed this but what are the HHKB layout case options looking like?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:25:44
For those of us who got ali's acrylic case, will we be able to send the case to whoever is assembling or something?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: mkaito on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:28:38
For those of us who got ali's acrylic case, will we be able to send the case to whoever is assembling or something?

The assembly service only assembles switches and plates. Mounting a case is ezpz anyway, so don't worry.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:29:58
For those of us who got ali's acrylic case, will we be able to send the case to whoever is assembling or something?

The assembly service only assembles switches and plates. Mounting a case is ezpz anyway, so don't worry.
Ali's case has a custom plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:30:39
For those of us who got ali's acrylic case, will we be able to send the case to whoever is assembling or something?

The assembly service only assembles switches and plates. Mounting a case is ezpz anyway, so don't worry.
Ali's case has a custom plate.

^^^ This.

I don't have a problem doing that.



Also, I'm going to put this on every page:

UPDATE:

THE SWITCH SUPPLIER JUST INFORMED ME THAT THE ONLY GREY SWITCHES HE HAS ARE ACTUALLY LINEAR (DARK GREY).

THESE WILL NOT WORK FOR "ERGO-CLEAR" MOD.

SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION, AS I WAS JUST INFORMED OF THIS JUST NOW. IF YOU NEED TO CANCEL SWITCHES, PLEASE SUBMIT AN ORDER CHANGE REQUEST.


You can still order MX Clear or MX Grey (tactile) from 7bit on Deskthority, or we will place the order with 7bit if you order them through this GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:33:05
jd could you shine some light on this?

Is it likely there will be a R2? I have a feeling if I buy the PCB now it'll just be sitting under my bed for half a year, and I don't have the cash for a plate etc atm.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:33:49
Also, I'm going to put this on every page:

It's going to make me cry every time I see it lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: 7bit on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:34:04
Any switches ordered that we cannot source from our new supplier will be ordered from 7bit. We won't be finished collecting payments before his "preorder sale" ends, so prices may be higher, and lead times may be longer.

You must be new to GeekHack!

Since when do I have strict deadlines?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:34:44
For those of us who got ali's acrylic case, will we be able to send the case to whoever is assembling or something?

The assembly service only assembles switches and plates. Mounting a case is ezpz anyway, so don't worry.
Ali's case has a custom plate.

^^^ This.

I don't have a problem doing that.



Also, I'm going to put this on every page:


You're truly amazing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:43:10
jd could you shine some light on this?

Is it likely there will be a R2? I have a feeling if I buy the PCB now it'll just be sitting under my bed for half a year, and I don't have the cash for a plate etc atm.

Not likely anytime soon. Maybe in a year or so?


Any switches ordered that we cannot source from our new supplier will be ordered from 7bit. We won't be finished collecting payments before his "preorder sale" ends, so prices may be higher, and lead times may be longer.

You must be new to GeekHack!

Since when do I have strict deadlines?

I am new! I only have about 300 posts to catch up with you, sir!

And I was only going by what komar told WFD and me regarding your preorder sale. Also, it said on DT that your sale prices end 4/30/2013.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:44:14
A year or so sounds good to me. Thanks jd.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:46:23
Hm, I wonder if I should get a second one...

I've got whites coming for the one I've already ordered and I kinda want a heavy linear still...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:47:34
Hm, I wonder if I should get a second one...

I've got whites coming for the one I've already ordered and I kinda want a heavy linear still...

lol, only 2?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:49:49
I asked this before but it quickly got lost a few pages back - any (rough) idea as to production time for these once payments are done with? 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 14:54:44
I asked this before but it quickly got lost a few pages back - any (rough) idea as to production time for these once payments are done with? 

Your answer is also in the thread, even before you had asked the question, but it was also lost pages back. :)

No clue. We are hoping for late-August/early-September, but that may be too optimistic.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 15:01:02
Can you disregard my order 282 and my recent order change and just keep my order 24 as is?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 15:04:05
Sure, will do that now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 15:06:10
Thanks. Excuse my indecisiveness..lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 22 April 2013, 15:12:46
added a second one for hhkb heavy linear goodness.

I have a lot of billing work to do, soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 22 April 2013, 15:21:14
I've ordered one. I thought I could resist.. I was wrong.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 22 April 2013, 15:21:23
I asked this before but it quickly got lost a few pages back - any (rough) idea as to production time for these once payments are done with? 

Your answer is also in the thread, even before you had asked the question, but it was also lost pages back. :)

No clue. We are hoping for late-August/early-September, but that may be too optimistic.

Thanks for that - I tried trawling through the whole thread but didn't make it I'm afraid!

Where are they being made?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 22 April 2013, 15:32:45
I placed my order again so the one from awhile back can be voided/erased.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: fydo on Mon, 22 April 2013, 16:14:10
THE SWITCH SUPPLIER JUST INFORMED ME THAT THE ONLY GREY SWITCHES HE HAS ARE ACTUALLY LINEAR (DARK GREY).

THESE WILL NOT WORK FOR "ERGO-CLEAR" MOD.

SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION, AS I WAS JUST INFORMED OF THIS JUST NOW. IF YOU NEED TO CANCEL SWITCHES, PLEASE SUBMIT AN ORDER CHANGE REQUEST.

You can still order MX Clear or MX Grey (tactile) from 7bit on Deskthority, or we will place the order with 7bit if you order them through this GB.

Okay, I think I'll need to update my order then. Though I do have one question, since I see a lot of orders with Clears and Greys on the confirmation list:
Does this mean that the Clears and Greys are available, but since you'd be going through 7bit, the switches may be more expensive and/or delay your order?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 16:16:08
Clears and Greys are available, but since you'd be going through 7bit, the switches may be more expensive and/or delay your order?

This.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: tricheboars on Mon, 22 April 2013, 16:40:20
hmmm.... i am starting to second guess my switch choices.

i am getting 2 gh60s.

1 red
1 green

but i dont know if i still want to make a green board. i like the idea of making a panda clear or ergo clear board but i have never messed with opening up switches. but what better a time to start!

so if i want to make ergo clears i need clear switches and blues springs? how do you guys get the springs?

i feel sorry for JD and WFD who are rushing to modify everyone's order. this is a massive undertaking guys. we need to figure out how to show our gratitude for the guys who helped organize this (komar, JD, WFD etc.) i dont know how.. perhaps a spock themed geekhack keycap later this year? lol.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 22 April 2013, 16:41:25
hmmm.... i am starting to second guess my switch choices.

i am getting 2 gh60s.

1 red
1 green

but i dont know if i still want to make a green board. i like the idea of making a panda clear or ergo clear board but i have never messed with opening up switches. but what better a time to start!

so if i want to make ergo clears i need clear switches and blues springs? how do you guys get the springs?

i feel sorry for JD and WFD who are rushing to modify everyone's order. this is a massive undertaking guys. we need to figure out how to show our gratitude for the guys who helped organize this (komar, JD, WFD etc.) i dont know how.. perhaps a spock themed geekhack keycap later this year? lol.

You could just change the stems of the red board to make an ergo-clear board.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Neal on Mon, 22 April 2013, 16:46:17
Is deadline forum time? Because I'm currently still traveling, can't really order atm! :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: feature on Mon, 22 April 2013, 16:47:56
*finally* ordered. I hope I did it in time, the timezone wasn't specified in the deadline :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: tradet on Mon, 22 April 2013, 16:49:58
And a last minute order change. Gonna go with clears from 7bit instead of the greens.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 16:50:01
Is deadline forum time? Because I'm currently still traveling, can't really order atm! :(

Yes. What would you like, Neal?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Neal on Mon, 22 April 2013, 16:52:55
Is deadline forum time? Because I'm currently still traveling, can't really order atm! :(

Yes. What would you like, Neal?
I'll order it when I get home, shouldn't be too long.

Don't worry ^-^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Neal on Mon, 22 April 2013, 18:11:49
Finally ordered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 22 April 2013, 18:33:23
Are Darkgrey stems like Reds, Blacks, or Vintage blacks?
Title: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 22 April 2013, 18:59:58
Are Darkgrey stems like Reds, Blacks, or Vintage blacks?

Vintage blacks is a myth, sir. :P

In answer to your question, yes. :)








The dark grey stems are the same as reds and blacks, cast from the same molds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 22 April 2013, 19:20:50

Vintage blacks is a myth, sir. :P


Okay that's good news haha.
I think the material or weight of reds and blacks are different. I just don't have a scale or anything to test this.


Does the Ansai Universal plate work for the GH60 (max keys) . Does it also work for any 1.5x mod like the HHKB?
Could the "true" HHKB plate split-backspace  double as a full backspace mod?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 22 April 2013, 19:27:57
As I'm updating and modifying orders, I realized some people still don't fully understand plates and stabilizers. Just to say it again, Universal plates can't use Costar or plate-mounted cherry stabilizers, only PCB-mounted cherry is compatible.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 22 April 2013, 19:37:30
As I'm updating and modifying orders, I realized some people still don't fully understand plates and stabilizers. Just to say it again, Universal plates can't use Costar or plate-mounted cherry stabilizers, only PCB-mounted cherry is compatible.
sorry please change my 3 to cherry PCB please. I am on my phone at a grocery store. Sorry for the poor quality post from tapatalk
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Tarzan on Mon, 22 April 2013, 19:48:45
As I'm updating and modifying orders, I realized some people still don't fully understand plates and stabilizers. Just to say it again, Universal plates can't use Costar or plate-mounted cherry stabilizers, only PCB-mounted cherry is compatible.

That's probably directed at me, as I placed a last-minute order to add another PCB (soldered, please!), and a universal plate for the 10x space-bar fitment.  I also added stabilizers, that appears to be in error.  Do you need me to submit another order change, or can you just remove that from the order?

Still a novice when it comes to mechanical boards, especially the innards!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: jabar on Mon, 22 April 2013, 19:49:10
Probably answered a million times now: the switches are still 7bit processed right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: mkaito on Mon, 22 April 2013, 20:15:45
Probably answered a million times now: the switches are still 7bit processed right?

You can order from 7bit, but this GB also provides switches again.

A million and one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: bear95 on Mon, 22 April 2013, 20:19:58
Geekhack op price for switch is $0.60 but on 7bit it is $0.71. Would ordering on geekhack be cheaper? Price is not guaranteed but possibly?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: guilleguillaume on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:11:46
As I'm updating and modifying orders, I realized some people still don't fully understand plates and stabilizers. Just to say it again, Universal plates can't use Costar or plate-mounted cherry stabilizers, only PCB-mounted cherry is compatible.


Woops! Thanks for this info. I didn't saw it before.

I changed my order to modify the stabilizers and wires part.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:13:24
Finally was able to "somewhat" get my plates figured out. I couldn't do universal because I plan to go Costar all the way. So, let's just say, I might have extra plates in the near future :)

Thanks again everyone for organizing this!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: camelCase on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:17:30
Finally was able to "somewhat" get my plates figured out. I couldn't do universal because I plan to go Costar all the way. So, let's just say, I might have extra plates in the near future :)

Thanks again everyone for organizing this!

I was the same way, couldn't decide what layout(s) I wanted. But I need Costars, so I scrapped the universal and settled on 1.25 pure, for now. What plates are you going for?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:33:13
Is .60 price going to change? I do like the price.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:48:36
Where can we review order? just want to make sure i didnt forget anything :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 22 April 2013, 21:49:38
Where can we review order? just want to make sure i didnt forget anything :)

jdcarpes signature and here - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 22 April 2013, 22:05:43
Whee just had to add another PCB since the price is so cheap. I will make something weird with one of them for fun times.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 22 April 2013, 22:07:22
Was tempted to get a PCB for future GH60 building but the Poker layout is just about perfect in my opinion so I just got a plate and some costar stabilizers. Not a second too late, either.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: modulor on Mon, 22 April 2013, 22:36:43
Order in - better late than never!  I've been super busy lately, but hopefully I'll have time to get my GH60 and case squared away sometime this summer :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 22 April 2013, 23:11:04
Seriously don't want to wait till September.  That's gonna kill me
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 22 April 2013, 23:22:51
Seriously don't want to wait till September.  That's gonna kill me

My thoughts exactly.  So much time to wait!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 22 April 2013, 23:24:46
Especially since my acrylic case will be here way earlier.  And hoping imsto does a round3 of his aluminum case.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 22 April 2013, 23:26:23
And hoping imsto does a round3 of his aluminum case.

He is :p
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 22 April 2013, 23:29:52
And hoping imsto does a round3 of his aluminum case.

He is :p
Why do you do this things to my wallet GH?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Caaaarrrt on Mon, 22 April 2013, 23:34:11
Updated my order, hopefully I've done it right.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 22 April 2013, 23:36:12
I'm hoping for a r2 of ali's case
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: digitalleftovers on Mon, 22 April 2013, 23:42:57
I didn't have plans for this, but as these things go, by the time I get it, I will wish I'd ordered one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 22 April 2013, 23:45:17
I'm hoping for a r2 of ali's case
Awaiting your orange as **** keyboard...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 22 April 2013, 23:46:57
I suppose I should wait before getting invoices started a little bit longer?

I'm hoping for a r2 of ali's case
Awaiting your orange as **** keyboard...

Hells yessssssss.  I may get my pure limited case anodized, but there's two options for a good orange case on the nearby horizon.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 23 April 2013, 00:18:49
And hoping imsto does a round3 of his aluminum case.

He is :p

Uh oh, I definitely need one of those!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: demik on Tue, 23 April 2013, 00:19:47
who wants to be a pal and gift me one? i'll name my first child after your username!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: bavman on Tue, 23 April 2013, 00:22:48
who wants to be a pal and gift me one? i'll name my first child after your username!

I'll be more than happy to buy you one, but I want his name to be Lionel instead of bavman.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 23 April 2013, 00:24:07
who wants to be a pal and gift me one? i'll name my first child after your username!

I'll be more than happy to buy you one, but I want his name to be Lionel instead of bavman.

Rofl!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: demik on Tue, 23 April 2013, 00:25:42
who wants to be a pal and gift me one? i'll name my first child after your username!

I'll be more than happy to buy you one, but I want his name to be Lionel instead of bavman.
i mean i hate kids, but i dont hate them THAT much.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 23 April 2013, 00:29:31
You guys are killing me and jdcarpe with the never ending order changes.

I may be able to get the electronics components cheaper, so out the door price for the DIY kit could be around ~$15, maybe more, maybe less. I hate saying this, but if this could affect your decision, fill out a request for order change.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 23 April 2013, 01:02:10
You guys are killing me and jdcarpe with the never ending order changes.

Well the options keep changing!!! Every time I check this thread there is a new or changed option.
Either way I don't think any of us can thank you two enough for all the hard work.
 :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 23 April 2013, 01:06:14
Well the options keep changing!!! Every time I check this thread there is a new or changed option.
Either way I don't think any of us can thank you four enough for all the hard work.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 01:06:41
You guys are killing me and jdcarpe with the never ending order changes.

I may be able to get the electronics components cheaper, so out the door price for the DIY kit could be around ~$15, maybe more, maybe less. I hate saying this, but if this could affect your decision, fill out a request for order change.

This will probably be my last order change then.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 23 April 2013, 01:08:11
OMG I don't want to be "that" person, but can I add a GH60 plate? I'll add it to my order now, but will not be upset if it's too late :)

Edit - Submitted
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: camelCase on Tue, 23 April 2013, 01:09:20
I just made my last order update adding a universal ANSI, no more changes I promise. You should enforce the order cutoff so you don't keep getting swamped, after my order is updated, of course  ;) I was wondering if I missed something for the assembly option? For people who ordered assembly service and more than one plate, how/where do they specify what switch layout they want? For instance I have a pure 1.25 plate and a universal, but I'm going for a poker layout on the universal ANSI. Will this be sorted when we move to the assembly stage? This really requires an amazing amount of planning and work, thank you for making something of this scale possible.

edit: Found the answer to my assembly question. Switch layout is specified at the assembly stage.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 23 April 2013, 01:17:05
Ordered.  HHKB stylee + universal plate just in case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 23 April 2013, 01:19:05
So universal plate will work for any layout or any 1.25 layout? Is universal also a max switch placement plate?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 01:21:57
Quote
In addition, there will be 2 more “universal” plates available. These plates’ main feature is the support for any possible hybrid layout from above. You’ll also be able to completely change layout using the same plate, by desoldering only a few switches and shifting them over (or adding/subtracting switches) rather than desoldering all switches and installing a new plate

does anyone read anymore?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 23 April 2013, 01:22:24
Any layout at all - if you look at the other plates you can see that the holes all fit within the universal's
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 23 April 2013, 01:35:24
Sorry for being dumb. I just wasn't clear to me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 23 April 2013, 02:10:38
I didn't specify a spacebar wire size with my request for a Costar set. Do I need to? I'm getting the Samwisekoi plate if that matters.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 23 April 2013, 02:47:42
Sorry for being dumb. I just wasn't clear to me.

Not at all! It took me ages to figure out what I wanted (which is the only reason I know...) and even then I went for the universal plate because I'm still not fully decided!

Edit:
I didn't specify a spacebar wire size with my request for a Costar set. Do I need to? I'm getting the Samwisekoi plate if that matters.

If you've ordered the Sawwisekoi plate then I assume they'll put you down for a 6.25 spacebar wire (as that's what you'll need)

Edit 2:
I'm tempted by a Samwisekoi (ish) layout with the short right shift on the right and a 1x key to the left of it but 1.25x mods across the whole bottom (maybe!)...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: HannibalChew on Tue, 23 April 2013, 03:18:50
Just made a last change to my order, hope its not too late!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Dgsbllx on Tue, 23 April 2013, 03:25:43
Crap, just seen 12 hours but time zones have screwed me over. Let me in!

Edit: wooo just seen my name on the bottom of the order confirmation, so I'm going to assume I'm in. Thank you very much  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 23 April 2013, 03:34:53
Ordering is DONE. First two days had 78 orders submitted, last two days had 98. Basically all the action happens at the very beginning or at the very end.

tjcaustin, you're summoned.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 23 April 2013, 03:42:47
My wallet hurts...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: osxoep on Tue, 23 April 2013, 04:41:25
Once I get to a computer I'm going to look up the totals. Maybe ~550 pcbs total?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 23 April 2013, 04:56:25
I guess I shudn't post it here, but did anyone order their switches from 7bit recently, are you supposed to get some kind of confirmation and when is the payment due?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 23 April 2013, 05:03:55
I guess I shudn't post it here, but did anyone order their switches from 7bit recently, are you supposed to get some kind of confirmation and when is the payment due?

Yeah, I ordered the switches for my GH 60 like 2 weeks ago. I got the invoice the same day. If I am not mistaken you'll have to pay within 7 days via paypal.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: vorn on Tue, 23 April 2013, 05:14:02
Once I get to a computer I'm going to look up the totals. Maybe ~550 pcbs total?

lol, I was also curious. I just copied the column values and added a "+" at the end of every line. The total I arrived at was 491. Wasn't as curious about the PCB kits, but that would definitely push it well over 500 I'm imagining.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 23 April 2013, 05:37:46
If you copy and paste into excel it unhides row 2

Edit: And as a result you can see that

PCB Assembled: 491
DIY Kit: 39
Bare PCB: 179
Total: 709
Although that 179 must include some from somewhere else as there aren't that many orders in that column...

Edit 2: Maybe there are actually...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Muffet on Tue, 23 April 2013, 06:00:24
I'm guessing though I did not specify I need a 7x wire for the Ansi 1.5x that it is assumed?

Also I know when the payment deadline is, but do we have an idea of when invoices will be sent out? I am assuming after all orders have been sorted and organized quotes will be need where these will be manufactured and then invoices?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: v4mp1 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 06:09:22
I have submitted a order change  :-X
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 23 April 2013, 06:12:46
I guess I shudn't post it here, but did anyone order their switches from 7bit recently, are you supposed to get some kind of confirmation and when is the payment due?

Yeah, I ordered the switches for my GH 60 like 2 weeks ago. I got the invoice the same day. If I am not mistaken you'll have to pay within 7 days via paypal.

Oh god, I'm a retard, I must've used a wrong email ;_;
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:00:18
I guess with the lack of Costar x7 spacebar wires ill have to use Cherries instead.

Just to confirm my order is correct:

2x Assembled PCB
1x 1.25 ISO plate
1x 1.5x short right shift ISO plate
2x Cherry stab set (7x wire and 6.25x wire)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: v4mp1 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:08:11
Is costar 6.25 sapcebar wire not compatible with 1.5x short right shift ISO plate?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:21:32
Is costar 6.25 sapcebar wire not compatible with 1.5x short right shift ISO plate?

1.5x mod layouts have one less mod key to the right of the keyboard, which is why you need a 7x spacebar to fill the bigger gap.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:22:35
The WKL, HHKB iso spacebar from what ive been told is a 7x.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: v4mp1 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:48:14
So where can i buy a 7.00 wire for costar stabilizers?

Is the 7.00 where i can buy here only compatible with cherry stabs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:49:04
I could really care less if I wind up getting a second plate (GH60), but I did put in a change to add one and would love to know if it was added or not. It's not currently showing on the order sheet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:50:20
Just for clarification, if you're planning on a 1.5x layout of any kind, Costar stabilizers will not be in your future. The only spacebar wire available for Costar is 6.25. There will be no 7x spacebar wire for Costar.

This should go without saying, but if you're using a plate, you can use any of the three types of stabilizers. If you're not using a plate, or using an acrylic plate or Universal plate, you need Cherry PCB mount stabilizers.

It seems the stabilizers have caused the most confusion.


I could really care less if I wind up getting a second plate (GH60), but I did put in a change to add one and would love to know if it was added or not. It's not currently showing on the order sheet.

I haven't made any updates from the order changes spreadsheet since yesterday evening. I've been battling a cold. I'll work on them today. Not sure what WFD has done, as I haven't checked yet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:52:51
You guys are killing me and jdcarpe with the never ending order changes.

I may be able to get the electronics components cheaper, so out the door price for the DIY kit could be around ~$15, maybe more, maybe less. I hate saying this, but if this could affect your decision, fill out a request for order change.
Any word on this price change?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: v4mp1 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:54:00
Just for clarification, if you're planning on a 1.5x layout of any kind, Costar stabilizers will not be in your future. The only spacebar wire available for Costar is 6.25. There will be no 7x spacebar wire for Costar.

I could make a costar 7x spacebar wire on my own?
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 23 April 2013, 07:58:39
I haven't made any updates from the order changes spreadsheet since yesterday evening. I've been battling a cold. I'll work on them today. Not sure what WFD has done, as I haven't checked yet.

That's promising, Thank You for the reply, and I hope you feel better soon.

PS - I haven't been sick in over five years. Number of years I haven't "been" with any guys? Five lol

It must be their fault. Probably for trying to get you out of your nerd cave. It's cold out there, gotta be careful. Mean guys...

Lol I found it to be ironic and had never thought about it before. Anyway I love all people and wasn't trying to bash men :)
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 23 April 2013, 08:00:53
PS - I haven't been sick in over five years. Number of years I haven't "been" with any guys? Five lol

It must be their fault. Probably for trying to get you out of your nerd cave. It's cold out there, gotta be careful. Mean guys...
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 23 April 2013, 08:14:24
I haven't made any updates from the order changes spreadsheet since yesterday evening. I've been battling a cold. I'll work on them today. Not sure what WFD has done, as I haven't checked yet.

That's promising, Thank You for the reply, and I hope you feel better soon.

PS - I haven't been sick in over five years. Number of years I haven't "been" with any guys? Five lol
Easy killer!  ;D I think most men have earned a little bashing here and there. It's all in good fun.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: fydo on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:29:10
I haven't made any updates from the order changes spreadsheet since yesterday evening. I've been battling a cold. I'll work on them today. Not sure what WFD has done, as I haven't checked yet.

Uh oh! I hope you're feeling better soon.

I sent a last-minute order modification to WFD via PM yesterday, but I don't think it has been applied. Should I have sent that to you instead, jdcarpe? I just wanted to have 65x Cherry MX Clears instead of the 65x Cherry MX Greys.  Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: agor on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:34:08
Hope my order is clear that I want Ergo Clears. It says "Clears/Greys" in the comments, and that I'm about to source the springs myself :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:36:28
My Order is on the Order Confirmation Spreadsheet :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 23 April 2013, 10:42:00
was it expected there to be this many GH60 sold? like holy **** i did a SUM on the spreadsheet and was a bit shocked. i was expecting 2/3 that

Whoever has to sort these out deserves a metal, like literally we should start handing out metals to these group buy organizers.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: daerid on Tue, 23 April 2013, 11:05:49
Holy EFFF 370 boards?!?

Damn I love this forum
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: rknize on Tue, 23 April 2013, 11:14:44
Why not round it off with breakfast at Milliways.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: aggiejy on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:06:44
Holy EFFF 370 boards?!?

Damn I love this forum

Indeed! I would not have guessed such interest in 60% boards without dedicated arrow keys. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:16:53
My order looks good except it doesn't show "Universal 10x spacebar (special order)" and I guess no one will be custom bending 7x costar wires so that could be removed and then everything will be about square :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:20:30
After WFD's informative post about the universal plates requiring cherry pcb stabilizers I had submitted a request to have my 3 changed to meet this requirement. now they show as cherry plate stabilizers?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:21:11
Holy EFFF 370 boards?!?

Damn I love this forum

Indeed! I would not have guessed such interest in 60% boards without dedicated arrow keys. :)

who needs dedicated arrow keys? not i! but im sure someone will take the GH60 plate or similar and make dedicated arrow keys, i'm feeling it will happen
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:21:23
Hope my order is clear that I want Ergo Clears. It says "Clears/Greys" in the comments, and that I'm about to source the springs myself :)

Just so you know, the $25 assembly fee doesn't include opening every switch to replace springs. That will definitely be extra.


After WFD's informative post about the universal plates requiring cherry pcb stabilizers I had submitted a request to have my 3 changed to meet this requirement. now they show as cherry plate stabilizers?

Fixed that for you.


My order looks good except it doesn't show "Universal 10x spacebar (special order)" and I guess no one will be custom bending 7x costar wires so that could be removed and then everything will be about square :p

Done. Universal 10x isn't in the plate section, so it's in your comments.


I haven't made any updates from the order changes spreadsheet since yesterday evening. I've been battling a cold. I'll work on them today. Not sure what WFD has done, as I haven't checked yet.

Uh oh! I hope you're feeling better soon.

I sent a last-minute order modification to WFD via PM yesterday, but I don't think it has been applied. Should I have sent that to you instead, jdcarpe? I just wanted to have 65x Cherry MX Clears instead of the 65x Cherry MX Greys.  Thanks!

Took care of it.

And thanks! :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:28:31
you guys are awesome!
I think that idea someone had a few pages back about making some key caps to say thank you would be really cool.
+1 spock
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: sth on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:20:23
ok take my money already
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:28:57
We're going through orders right now and finalizing everything right now. Tallying up all the switches and stabilizers will be a *****. Invoicing will be a ***** since every order is different, but that's on tjcaustin :p

I think it'll be a lot easier if we just got all PCB-mounted switches. The PBC has holes for them, and taking advantage of the extra plastic pegs is a really secure and solid way to mount the switches, even with the plate. If you ordered switches for other keyboards that can only use plate-mounted switch, just clip those plastic legs off. It takes 5-10 minutes to do a whole bag of switches:

t=5m3s


Any mass objections to getting only PCB-mounted switches? It'll simplify invoicing, ordering swithches, and sorting the thousands of switches.



I sent a last-minute order modification to WFD via PM yesterday, but I don't think it has been applied.
You PMed me at 4am today. I sleep sometimes  ^-^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:37:18
We're going through orders right now and finalizing everything right now. Tallying up all the switches and stabilizers will be a *****. Invoicing will be a ***** since every order is different, but that's on tjcaustin :p

I think it'll be a lot easier if we just got all PCB-mounted switches. The PBC has holes for them, and taking advantage of the extra plastic pegs is a really secure and solid way to mount the switches, even with the plate. If you ordered switches for other keyboards that can only use plate-mounted switch, just clip those plastic legs off. It takes 5-10 minutes to do a whole bag of switches:

t=5m3s


Any mass objections to getting only PCB-mounted switches? It'll simplify invoicing, ordering swithches, and sorting the thousands of switches.


No problem for me. :)  Just means the board will be more solid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:45:14
Any mass objections to getting only PCB-mounted switches? It'll simplify invoicing, ordering swithches, and sorting the thousands of switches.

No objection.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: fydo on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:49:23
Any mass objections to getting only PCB-mounted switches? It'll simplify invoicing, ordering swithches, and sorting the thousands of switches.

I think this is a great idea! Will the switches ordered through 7bit also be PCB mounted? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:57:01
Any mass objections to getting only PCB-mounted switches? It'll simplify invoicing, ordering switches, and sorting the thousands of switches.

I thought that was already the plan. isn't that also cheaper?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: RickyJ on Tue, 23 April 2013, 19:27:57
I ordered PCB mount because they're better for lining up the plate to the PCB.  Would probably be a ton of PM's to send to people who ordered a load of plate-mounted switches, but might get a better response?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:13:49
Any mass objections to getting only PCB-mounted switches? It'll simplify invoicing, ordering switches, and sorting the thousands of switches.

I don't know what difference it makes, honestly. If you think it's just as solid, go ahead.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: hankz on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:37:14
Any mass objections to getting only PCB-mounted switches? It'll simplify invoicing, ordering switches, and sorting the thousands of switches.

I don't know what difference it makes, honestly. If you think it's just as solid, go ahead.

PCB mount
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8117/8648276372_61155c5c13_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54208153@N05/8648276372/)
Flickr 上 Hank.Z (http://www.flickr.com/people/54208153@N05/) 的 DSC03377 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54208153@N05/8648276372/)

PLATE mount(first row in pic)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8261/8641706197_2c27560053_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54208153@N05/8641706197/)
Flickr 上 Hank.Z (http://www.flickr.com/people/54208153@N05/) 的 DSC03370 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54208153@N05/8641706197/)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: orlando on Tue, 23 April 2013, 20:38:26
Any mass objections to getting only PCB-mounted switches? It'll simplify invoicing, ordering switches, and sorting the thousands of switches.

I don't know what difference it makes, honestly. If you think it's just as solid, go ahead.
You can use PCB mounted switches without or with a plate. You can only use plate mounted switches with a plate. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 23 April 2013, 21:01:25
Any mass objections to getting only PCB-mounted switches? It'll simplify invoicing, ordering switches, and sorting the thousands of switches.

I don't know what difference it makes, honestly. If you think it's just as solid, go ahead.
You can use PCB mounted switches without or with a plate. You can only use plate mounted switches with a plate. Hope that helps.


So you can mount PCB switches into the plate? Well, that's convenient.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 23 April 2013, 21:29:07
Any mass objections to getting only PCB-mounted switches? It'll simplify invoicing, ordering switches, and sorting the thousands of switches.

I don't know what difference it makes, honestly. If you think it's just as solid, go ahead.
You can use PCB mounted switches without or with a plate. You can only use plate mounted switches with a plate. Hope that helps.


So you can mount PCB switches into the plate? Well, that's convenient.
You have to snip the plastic peg things off.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: salmo on Tue, 23 April 2013, 21:34:11
I don't see any reason why this would be an issue, since we have holes for them.  PCB mount + plate = super stable, right?  :)

Besides I just snipped off the legs of the 80-whatever switches for the phantom I just put together this weekend, because PCB mount was what I had on hand.  Took me less than 10 mins.

You have to snip the plastic peg things off.

You only have to if the board doesn't have holes for them.  They're just not needed if there's a plate.  The GH60 board does have holes for them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 23 April 2013, 21:34:39
So you can mount PCB switches into the plate? Well, that's convenient.
You have to snip the plastic peg things off.

No you don't have to. If you're just mounting on the plate, they don't need to be snipped off. The only time you'd need to snip them off is when the PCB doesn't have holes for the pegs, like Filco or Phantom. But for all Korean boards, pokers/pure, and GH60, there are holes in the PCB so you should leave them on. Installing a plate and using those two pegs makes a rock solid mount of switches. I would advise to leave them on.

I should have mentioned this little tip earlier.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 23 April 2013, 21:37:47
So you can mount PCB switches into the plate? Well, that's convenient.
You have to snip the plastic peg things off.

No you don't have to. If you're just mounting on the plate, they don't need to be snipped off. The only time you'd need to snip them off is when the PCB doesn't have holes for the pegs, like Filco or Phantom. But for all Korean boards, pokers/pure, and GH60, there are holes in the PCB so you should leave them on. Installing a plate and using those two pegs makes a rock solid mount of switches. I would advise to leave them on.

I should have mentioned this little tip earlier.
Huh the more you know eh?  Thanks for this tip m8
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: bear95 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 21:47:07
uhhh... do you think we can change to pcb mount if we ordered from 7bit?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: agor on Wed, 24 April 2013, 03:11:05
Hope my order is clear that I want Ergo Clears. It says "Clears/Greys" in the comments, and that I'm about to source the springs myself :)

Just so you know, the $25 assembly fee doesn't include opening every switch to replace springs. That will definitely be extra.

No, I'm doing this myself. Just wanted to be precise that I want tactile switches, as you mentioned that you erred with the greys a few pages back or so. I'm fine waiting for switches from 7bit
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (12 HOURS LEFT)
Post by: 7bit on Wed, 24 April 2013, 04:41:06
Geekhack op price for switch is $0.60 but on 7bit it is $0.71. Would ordering on geekhack be cheaper? Price is not guaranteed but possibly?
In theory it is cheaper, except that nobody answered the question if this will be the final price.

Also, there is still no definite information about which switches are  available and if they are in stock and when they will be delivered ...

It surely does not make sense that people order from me and pay a bit extra to get them later. So, some more definite information from the GB organisers about the switches they can source would be nice.

:-)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: v4mp1 on Wed, 24 April 2013, 08:22:55
I'm new to geekhack, one question, only the right keycaps are double shots rights?

(http://abload.de/thumb/keycapsupk13.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=keycapsupk13.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Wed, 24 April 2013, 08:31:12
I'm new to geekhack, one question, only the right keycaps are double shots rights?

(http://abload.de/thumb/keycapsupk13.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=keycapsupk13.jpg)

Doesn't look double shot to me, just thicker?

Also, why would you not make a thread for that?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Muffet on Wed, 24 April 2013, 08:32:41
Double shots are made by first molding the legend in one color plastic, then molding the rest of the cap around that in a different color plastic. The image you provided shows a thin wall and thick wall only.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: bear95 on Wed, 24 April 2013, 09:16:03
Geekhack op price for switch is $0.60 but on 7bit it is $0.71. Would ordering on geekhack be cheaper? Price is not guaranteed but possibly?
In theory it is cheaper, except that nobody answered the question if this will be the final price.

Also, there is still no definite information about which switches are  available and if they are in stock and when they will be delivered ...

It surely does not make sense that people order from me and pay a bit extra to get them later. So, some more definite information from the GB organisers about the switches they can source would be nice.

:-)

Awesome! Thanks for the info.
And to answer my other question, would it be too bothersome/late to change my order from plate-mounted to pcb mounted?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Wed, 24 April 2013, 09:29:29
Isn't it about time we leave the orders alone, and let the staff tally things up?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:11:42
I'm scared to see what my invoice is gonna look like...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:15:11
I'm scared to see what my invoice is gonna look like...

It'll be white with black and blue letters. Perhaps some yellow too.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:22:53
I'm scared to see what my invoice is gonna look like...

It'll be white with black and blue letters. Perhaps some yellow too.

Mine's got red all over it.  Oh wait... that's my bank statement.   :'(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mickd on Wed, 24 April 2013, 19:40:31
Sorry about that, could you change my stabilizers to PCB mount instead? I've got the universal plates, so they'll be necessary anyways :)

Also, could someone explain a bit about the difference between white and dark gray switches as compared to say blues and browns? My favourite switch so far are browns and I generally prefer lighter switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheQsanity on Wed, 24 April 2013, 20:16:56
Dark Grey are heavy and Linear. Light grey have a bump similar to clears
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Thu, 25 April 2013, 17:53:52
I think i'm gonna be sick.

I forgot about this for a while, and just came back today to check on it...

And this is the first time i'm learning the GH60 has entered group buy status... and the deadline is already passed!!!

****.

If anyone wants to give up one spot for a full ansi kit w/ plate...

Or if you guys could possibly (and i realize this is unlikely) add another order, despite the passed deadline (that i've just learned about)...

That would be pretty great.


Meanwhile, i'll be sulking with the force of 1000 facepalms.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: cobraj on Thu, 25 April 2013, 18:08:23
I think i'm gonna be sick.

I forgot about this for a while, and just came back today to check on it...

And this is the first time i'm learning the GH60 has entered group buy status... and the deadline is already passed!!!

****.

If anyone wants to give up one spot for a full ansi kit w/ plate...

Or if you guys could possibly (and i realize this is unlikely) add another order, despite the passed deadline (that i've just learned about)...

That would be pretty great.


Meanwhile, i'll be sulking with the force of 1000 facepalms.

Aww man. That sucks :(

Hope you get what you need :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 25 April 2013, 18:40:01
There were only like 700 ordered... I am sure that someone will not be able to pay come next month's deadline
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jmneuv on Thu, 25 April 2013, 18:43:44
Which type of usb connector has been chosen?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 25 April 2013, 18:48:20
Which type of usb connector has been chosen?
Mini B
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: daerid on Thu, 25 April 2013, 22:37:25
Hmm... if I can find the right kind of female micro usb connector for the ErgoDox, I might use one for this as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 26 April 2013, 01:37:48
Hmm... if I can find the right kind of female micro usb connector for the ErgoDox, I might use one for this as well.

http://www.cellphoneshop.net/mamiusbtofem.html?cagpspn=pla&gclid=CKDsuKfc57YCFSHhQgodjzYABQ
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 26 April 2013, 03:38:32
Question... Does a 1.25x Enter key currently exist for a GH60 plate layout?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 26 April 2013, 03:52:45
Which type of usb connector has been chosen?

Mini B. The solder pads are completely in different locations between the SMD micro and mini connectors, so they're not interchangeable even if you sourced your own. Your best bet for going micro USB is with an adapter similar to what domoaligator linked.


Question... Does a 1.25x Enter key currently exist for a GH60 plate layout?

Yes
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mauri on Fri, 26 April 2013, 06:57:44
When shud one get an invoice?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 26 April 2013, 08:16:08
I'd imagine it'll be a little while yet as the organisers need to sort through ~400 orders including PCBs, plates, switches, stabilizers, assembly requests and checking that people haven't ordered totally the wrong things...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 26 April 2013, 11:39:30
I think i'm gonna be sick.

I forgot about this for a while, and just came back today to check on it...

And this is the first time i'm learning the GH60 has entered group buy status... and the deadline is already passed!!!

****.

If anyone wants to give up one spot for a full ansi kit w/ plate...

Or if you guys could possibly (and i realize this is unlikely) add another order, despite the passed deadline (that i've just learned about)...

That would be pretty great.


Meanwhile, i'll be sulking with the force of 1000 facepalms.

I'm sure there will be a lot of pokers coming on the market soon. They won't be as versatile as the Gh60, but they're still a damn nice keyboard
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:12:25
Massdrop has a pure gb atm
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:36:43
Massdrop has a pure gb atm

Pure pro, with a weird layout.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:41:31
I like weird layouts. That's why I like GH60 :D
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 26 April 2013, 13:54:19
I like weird layouts. That's why I like GH60 :D
GH60 FTW

Btw thanks for including it as i though i was the only one that wanted it or, at least I was when we started the proto boards
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Trueno86 on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:39:31
I haven't received an invoice.. should I be concerned???
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mauri on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:43:58
I'd imagine it'll be a little while yet as the organisers need to sort through ~400 orders including PCBs, plates, switches, stabilizers, assembly requests and checking that people haven't ordered totally the wrong things...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:45:48
I think i'm gonna be sick.

I forgot about this for a while, and just came back today to check on it...

And this is the first time i'm learning the GH60 has entered group buy status... and the deadline is already passed!!!

****.

If anyone wants to give up one spot for a full ansi kit w/ plate...

Or if you guys could possibly (and i realize this is unlikely) add another order, despite the passed deadline (that i've just learned about)...

That would be pretty great.


Meanwhile, i'll be sulking with the force of 1000 facepalms.

I'm sure there will be a lot of pokers coming on the market soon. They won't be as versatile as the Gh60, but they're still a damn nice keyboard

And that versatility was key (oh that's a pun isn't it). There is a (are some) reason(s) i waited for the GH60, instead of getting a poker or pure. A GH60 can be anything from a poker to the GH60-Max. And it's special! And, it would take the GH60 (or something very close) to justify dropping/replacing my g710+. I know the g710+ got plenty of hate and jeers, but the only thing i really dislike about it is the size. I love the muted browns, the white led's, the volume roller, and have found at least a few uses for the g-keys... i even like the way it looks (orange thingy notwithstanding, though also not an issue; i'm rather neutral on it). It's just too wide (i say that as it rests upon a razer goliath deskpad...), and i spent a lot of time looking/waiting for the perfect smaller solution. I like that the GH60 is something not everyone will have, is small and "easy" to mod/alter... and i get all "breezy" thinking about programmable function layers. Had the GH60 been available before the g710+, i'd have opted for that instead. But it wasn't, so i got the g710+ and waited... ever so patiently. :P


In the last month, i've spent 2 weeks blowing over a year worth of dust out of my case and radiator, having a water loop maintenance accident, killing my pair of gtx 275's, dropping a chunk of change on a used 590, reconfiguring my loop, and have been trying to "catch up" ever since. Before that, i was, as many often do, having life-complicating personal (and interpersonal) problems (still am), and hadn't even thought about keyboards since sometime in Jan/Feb.

When i came to check on the GH60 status, seeing it in testing/prototyping phase last i checked... my spirit was crushed upon finding that not only had the GB already started over a month ago, but the deadline had only just passed, this week.


I was like:

"...and now this..."


And here we are.

However, my hopes are not entirely crushed, just yet... :)
Title: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:50:18
Also, much of this is being sourced/manufactured in China, as you might imagine. We are still in the process of getting prices locked in for everything. The good news for you guys is that we are trying out best to save everyone money where we can. Invoicing can't happen until we know for certain what all the prices are. We had no way of knowing when this GB began that we would be placing an order for over 700 PCBs. But it's a nice surprise, to be sure. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mauri on Fri, 26 April 2013, 14:54:39
This is a one small step for man, one giant leap for geekkind
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 26 April 2013, 15:15:47
Also, much of this is being sourced/manufactured in China, as you might imagine. We are still in the process of getting prices locked in for everything. The good news for you guys is that we are trying out best to save everyone money where we can. Invoicing can't happen until we know for certain what all the prices are. We had no way of knowing when this GB began that we would be placing an order for over 700 PCBs. But it's a nice surprise, to be sure. :D


hmmm. 700 is awesome. way to go guys. JD if you dont mind me asking how many did you think we would order? 500? 250?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: tradet on Fri, 26 April 2013, 15:31:39
Congrats guys!

Now the problem is: Where can we get key caps for a GH60 max layout? I would so love a nice, complete set for it. But I haven't even seen that 1.25x enter key before. What are you guys gonna go for?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 26 April 2013, 15:34:05
That moment when you have more boards that you have keycaps...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 26 April 2013, 15:47:57
GMK does have row C 1.25 I think as Cherry had some boards with it way back... Even if made a bizzaro pack with blank keys for use on some less popular boards that need unusual things like the C row 1.25, E row 1.5 I am not sure it would make it. I guess we can find out when run GMK round2 IC.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Fri, 26 April 2013, 16:02:30
Has any of you come across a PBT set for a poker layout? I'd like thick PBT, blank, not sure about the colour yet. Depends on the case, too.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 26 April 2013, 16:08:29
Has any of you come across a PBT set for a poker layout? I'd like thick PBT, blank, not sure about the colour yet. Depends on the case, too.

If you want thick PBT, you're going to have to buy a 105 set from Imsto or look for a 105/TKL Imsto set in the classifieds.

Other than that, Ducky will supposedly be selling thick PBT caps, but they're oem profile and will probably only come in 104/105 sets.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 26 April 2013, 16:11:28
Or by mine (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42862.msg869442#msg869442)!  :p

Jocelyn is right though. If you're looking for thick PBT, IMSTO is probably your best bet at the moment.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 April 2013, 16:17:23
Also, much of this is being sourced/manufactured in China, as you might imagine. We are still in the process of getting prices locked in for everything. The good news for you guys is that we are trying out best to save everyone money where we can. Invoicing can't happen until we know for certain what all the prices are. We had no way of knowing when this GB began that we would be placing an order for over 700 PCBs. But it's a nice surprise, to be sure. :D


hmmm. 700 is awesome. way to go guys. JD if you dont mind me asking how many did you think we would order? 500? 250?

I thought it would be 250-300. Never imagined 700. :)


Congrats guys!

Now the problem is: Where can we get key caps for a GH60 max layout? I would so love a nice, complete set for it. But I haven't even seen that 1.25x enter key before. What are you guys gonna go for?

Pretty sure the 1.25 set from DSA Retro has a 1.25 Enter key in it. DSA Retro had ALL the cool options! ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 26 April 2013, 16:18:01
Or by mine (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42862.msg869442#msg869442)!  :p

Jocelyn is right though. If you're looking for thick PBT, IMSTO is probably your best bet at the moment.

Are they the same thickness?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.35.eL46HE&id=16968282424&
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.39.eL46HE&id=19889396405&
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.45.TtRH2s&id=17187230878&
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.12.QazpLb&id=17533723291&

I am split between the Cherry replica and the Olivetti.
I am not sure if imsto has Black blanks in his site.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Fri, 26 April 2013, 16:24:15
Or by mine (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42862.msg869442#msg869442)!  :p

Jocelyn is right though. If you're looking for thick PBT, IMSTO is probably your best bet at the moment.

Are they the same thickness?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.35.eL46HE&id=16968282424&
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.39.eL46HE&id=19889396405&
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.45.TtRH2s&id=17187230878&
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.12.QazpLb&id=17533723291&

I am split between the Cherry replica and the Olivetti.
I am not sure if imsto has Black blanks in his site.

My Chinese is a little bit rusty :p

Is that imsto's stuff? If not, where do I have a peek?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 26 April 2013, 16:31:09
Or by mine (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42862.msg869442#msg869442)!  :p

Jocelyn is right though. If you're looking for thick PBT, IMSTO is probably your best bet at the moment.

Are they the same thickness?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.35.eL46HE&id=16968282424&
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.39.eL46HE&id=19889396405&
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.45.TtRH2s&id=17187230878&
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4996320547.12.QazpLb&id=17533723291&

I am split between the Cherry replica and the Olivetti.
I am not sure if imsto has Black blanks in his site.

My Chinese is a little bit rusty :p

Is that imsto's stuff? If not, where do I have a peek?

Yes it's Imsto's stuff. The first two are thick PBT, while the third is Cherry ABS double shot caps. The last is also Thick PBT (blue if you read description), but I had no idea he sold sets of 61.

Congrats guys!

Now the problem is: Where can we get key caps for a GH60 max layout? I would so love a nice, complete set for it. But I haven't even seen that 1.25x enter key before. What are you guys gonna go for?

Pretty sure the 1.25 set from DSA Retro has a 1.25 Enter key in it. DSA Retro had ALL the cool options! ;)

I'm pretty sure most of us asking about 1.25x Enter keys want to know about caps with a cherry profile, not SP  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Fri, 26 April 2013, 16:48:42
I'm starting to see that blank thick pbt is rather rare.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 26 April 2013, 16:51:41
Will have Cherry thick PBT blanks in new groupbuy soon if you want 2tone white/beige.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 26 April 2013, 16:56:41
Will have Cherry thick PBT blanks in new groupbuy soon if you want 2tone white/beige.

So every set will be white/beige, meaning no all white sets? I'm guessing you're doing this due to the last GB being all white, which makes sense.

Will have Cherry thick PBT blanks in new groupbuy soon if you want 2tone white/beige.

Yesssssss, any chance there will ever be gray/ charcoal blank IMSTOs?

You can get gray blanks from Imsto. If you want something darker, Ivan said he might be doing a dark charcoal for a GB later this summer

Where were the Ovilettis from? Was that a GH GB?

Sherryton/Korean GB (I'm not 100% sure about the Korean bit, but KBDMOD has or will have them in stock soon)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jwaz on Fri, 26 April 2013, 16:58:10
Will have Cherry thick PBT blanks in new groupbuy soon if you want 2tone white/beige.

Yesssssss, any chance there will ever be gray/ charcoal blank IMSTOs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 26 April 2013, 16:59:24
Where were the Ovilettis from? Was that a GH GB?


Will have Cherry thick PBT blanks in new groupbuy soon if you want 2tone white/beige.

Yesssssss, any chance there will ever be gray/ charcoal blank IMSTOs?
Hopefully it will be cheaper than MassDrop
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 26 April 2013, 17:03:56
Or by mine (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42862.msg869442#msg869442)!  :p

Jocelyn is right though. If you're looking for thick PBT, IMSTO is probably your best bet at the moment.

I buy them from feng here on geekhack. here is his ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/geek_feng/m.html
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 26 April 2013, 17:06:44
I buy them from feng here on geekhack. here is his ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/geek_feng/m.html
Yes, I failed to mention Feng (my bad), but he doesn't have as many color options, legends in every color, blanks in every color, or sets with Hangul or other legends.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Fri, 26 April 2013, 17:07:48
Charcoal blank sounds pretty sweet. Do want.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 26 April 2013, 17:13:39
Olivetti is from originative, and as far as I can tell everyone else that has them got them though originative too. The weird tab keys gives it away, as no one else with any sense would pick that awful tab legend.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 26 April 2013, 19:45:50
Also, much of this is being sourced/manufactured in China, as you might imagine. We are still in the process of getting prices locked in for everything. The good news for you guys is that we are trying out best to save everyone money where we can. Invoicing can't happen until we know for certain what all the prices are. We had no way of knowing when this GB began that we would be placing an order for over 700 PCBs. But it's a nice surprise, to be sure. :D


hmmm. 700 is awesome. way to go guys. JD if you dont mind me asking how many did you think we would order? 500? 250?

I thought it would be 250-300. Never imagined 700. :)



Believe in yourself!!!!

Personally I think you and Komar should team up for a Polish/USA custom keyboard company!  Also please hire Beast and WFD to mass produce gorgeous wood and aluminum cases and just to have them around. those dudes have ideas.

i heard the originative dns listing is available! BAZINGA!

...too soon?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 26 April 2013, 20:28:12
Why not under the geekhack name?
Edit: if GH owners allow
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: remedyhalopc on Sat, 27 April 2013, 02:25:46
If anyone needs to drop a pure plate, my friend recently (today) got into the mech keyboard game and wants to snag a plate for it while they're available. He won't be too bummed if he doesn't get it because he understands the deadline passed. But just a thought.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 27 April 2013, 04:49:04
Noticed my order hasn't been updated yet? I submitted a change over a week ago (before the close im sure). Can't remember what was in the update, but i think i wanted to change costar to cherry stabs due to the 7x spacebar wire being unavailable. Also change the ISO 1.5x pure shift plate to the short right shift version.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 27 April 2013, 06:17:15
Also change the ISO 1.5x pure shift plate to the short right shift version.
"pure shift" is the short R-shift, so these mean the same thing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 27 April 2013, 07:34:17
er, on the original page, the plates show one with a short shift (ISO 1.5x with short R-shift - full 1.5x mod, WKL, or HHKB) and the other with a full size shift? How are they the same thing? Am I getting confused?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: OddOne on Sat, 27 April 2013, 08:08:27
er, on the original page, the plates show one with a short shift (ISO 1.5x with short R-shift - full 1.5x mod, WKL, or HHKB) and the other with a full size shift? How are they the same thing? Am I getting confused?

A "pure" shift is a short 1.75x right shift. The longer right shift would be like on a Poker keyboard (or most other ANSI keyboards). So if you have ordered a "pure" shift and want a short right shift, you should be good to go.

Cheers, OddOne
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 27 April 2013, 08:40:07
It's marked as a short right shift on the original post, sorry I think the confusion is i want the short right shift with the x1 key to the right of the shift which is a different plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 27 April 2013, 08:44:50
i want the short right shift with the x1 key to the right of the shift...

I just checked the order spreadsheet, and this is what you have. It's called "ISO 1.5x (pure shift) plate" on the order form. Have you down for 1 of those plates, along with the rest of your order.

"Pure shift" means it has the shift from the KBT Pure. Which is the short right shift with a 1x key to the right of it. Not "pure" as in "purity" or something.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 27 April 2013, 10:15:38
ok thats fine, just confusing myself. Cheers for checking, didn't mean to take any of your time :) much thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 27 April 2013, 19:06:30
Small update: I've confirmed that the DIY kit is now $15, down from $22. The PCB is almost complete, but there is a last minute change to the USB connector because the fab is unable to source our current one intended for the PCB. A few more days for this.


In the meantime, a lot of people need to look at your orders for stabilizers before I finish tallying them:

Yellow = your stabilizer order is not counted yet, either because 1) you need to specify plate-mounted or PCB-mounted for cherry stabilizers, 2) you need to specify wire size, 3) specify costar or cherry.
orange = your stabilizer order was counted, but there are discrepancies with the plate matching the stabs.

Order confirmation (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing)

I've spent over 3 hours adding them up already, but I cannot spot-check hundreds of orders. After a couple days, I will make an educated assumption, or just default these orders to cherry PCB-mounted stabs with 6.25x wires. Please check over your order again, even if I didn't mark it. Submit an order change and write "stabilizer" in the "what you want to change" section, and put in your new stabilizer order in the last section.

Order Changes (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform)



Just to reiterate again: Universal plates must use cherry PCB-mounted stabilizers. Costar stabilizers are not currently not available in 7x sizes. Here are the plates that fit each wire size:

6.25x

7x

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 28 April 2013, 00:52:08
Got my wires added in.
Thanks again guys.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 28 April 2013, 01:00:00
Changed stabilizers.  Don't know why I had plate mounted cherry stabs on there...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: txepox on Sun, 28 April 2013, 06:41:38
Order changed. Thanks for your great work!.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 28 April 2013, 06:41:45
Quick question that I'm sure has been answered, but I can't seem to find it.

Is the wire interchangeable between the different cherry stabilizers?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: cusx on Sun, 28 April 2013, 07:00:03
Why isn't my name on the [Order Confirmation] list ?

cusx is my GH ID
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Sun, 28 April 2013, 11:25:31
Is it confirmed yet if there will be WASD leds? And I updated my stabilizers to costar by the way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Sun, 28 April 2013, 11:28:33
Is it confirmed yet if there will be WASD leds? And I updated my stabilizers to costar by the way.

Komar was looking into led wiring, but hasn't confirmed anything.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: sth on Sun, 28 April 2013, 16:55:53
updated
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jspark on Sun, 28 April 2013, 18:44:52
updated
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: clstyle on Mon, 29 April 2013, 07:53:36
can i change my shipping address??
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 29 April 2013, 08:44:31
Quick question that I'm sure has been answered, but I can't seem to find it.

Is the wire interchangeable between the different cherry stabilizers?

Yes. :)


Why isn't my name on the [Order Confirmation] list ?

cusx is my GH ID

Not sure, but your order is in our spreadsheet.


Is it confirmed yet if there will be WASD leds? And I updated my stabilizers to costar by the way.

Not confirmed yet.


can i change my shipping address??

Yes, send me a PM.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: clstyle on Mon, 29 April 2013, 09:27:25
i sent pm. thank you. ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: korne on Mon, 29 April 2013, 14:53:25
Updated!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: edrago on Mon, 29 April 2013, 17:58:34
Just updated my order. Added the stabs wire size.
I would like to congratulate the organizers and thank for their time invested in this. Great work on the GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: thegagne on Mon, 29 April 2013, 19:02:01
Too late to add a plate?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 29 April 2013, 19:13:49
Fill in the order change request. But at some point, we need to cut off all changes, otherwise we'll never get to invoicing. I also need to submit the exact plate numbers to get official quotes, so if you want to make order changes to plates, do it now. Stabilizers has a longer window because these do not require exact amounts.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Loligagger on Mon, 29 April 2013, 21:14:34
Would simple orders (aka no switches/plates/stabilizers) be able to ship out sooner than more complicated orders? Also, still lookin' at around august/september to get these all out?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 29 April 2013, 22:14:06
I just noticed my order has green switches. Can I change that to grey? I thought i changed it before.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 30 April 2013, 00:17:51
Would simple orders (aka no switches/plates/stabilizers) be able to ship out sooner than more complicated orders? Also, still lookin' at around august/september to get these all out?

I'd like to know this too.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Caaaarrrt on Tue, 30 April 2013, 00:26:21
Updated. Hopefully I've got my stabilisers right this time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:34:08
Would simple orders (aka no switches/plates/stabilizers) be able to ship out sooner than more complicated orders? Also, still lookin' at around august/september to get these all out?

I'd like to know this too.

Me three (well I'm getting also getting a plate but nothing else...)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 30 April 2013, 13:45:48
so i just checked my order. I am one of the first ones and nothing is highlighted. good stuff, but holy crap is there a lot of nonsense orders.  anywho, i ordered green switches and i am thinking now that i actually want to get clears to make ergos.  If i cant change my order that is fine, Green Switches are hard to come by so i am sure i can sell them or find a use for them. with that said, i am nervous about finding plate mounted clear switches to make my ergos. 

so how do you guys feel about me adding swtiches to my order? if no is the answer that is cool. i will try to source them independently through 7-bit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 30 April 2013, 14:03:08
I sent an order update to fix spacebar sizes.

(2 x 6.25x -> 2 x 7x)

Thanks to the organizers for the colossal amount of work they are doing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: bugsaint on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:02:01
Just a quick question.  We're all buying these boards but where's everyone getting cases for them?  Been trawling around for an aluminium poker case to go with it but nothing appearing in the classifieds.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:09:54
Just a quick question.  We're all buying these boards but where's everyone getting cases for them?  Been trawling around for an aluminium poker case to go with it but nothing appearing in the classifieds.

They're listed in the OP and most of those listed will have a GB in the near future :)
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 30 April 2013, 18:11:46
Just a quick question.  We're all buying these boards but where's everyone getting cases for them?  Been trawling around for an aluminium poker case to go with it but nothing appearing in the classifieds.

They're listed in the OP and most of those listed will have a GB in the near future :)

Here's for hoping I'll have time to get enough money for one before they go GB-mode.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: thoere on Tue, 30 April 2013, 19:18:46
When do we get invoices?
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 30 April 2013, 19:19:57
When do we get invoices?

Probably soon, seeing as the payment deadline is May 13.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 30 April 2013, 19:55:40
Is there a change order option to change my green switches to grey?

I originally wanted green and then changed it to grey earlier in the group buy. The ops confirmed the change but now on the list as green switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 30 April 2013, 19:59:04
If you want to change switches, just submit an order change. It's not too late. Things haven't been updated in a few days, as I have just honestly been very busy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 30 April 2013, 20:02:03
Just did, I can't decide. lol

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 30 April 2013, 20:21:02
Just did, I can't decide. lol

Thanks!

Order a batch of each!
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 30 April 2013, 21:21:41
If you want to change switches, just submit an order change. It's not too late. Things haven't been updated in a few days, as I have just honestly been very busy.

Do i just pm you?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 30 April 2013, 21:24:35
If you want to change switches, just submit an order change. It's not too late. Things haven't been updated in a few days, as I have just honestly been very busy.

Do i just pm you?

You can do that, yes. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 30 April 2013, 23:11:04
so i just checked my order. I am one of the first ones and nothing is highlighted. good stuff, but holy crap is there a lot of nonsense orders.  anywho, i ordered green switches and i am thinking now that i actually want to get clears to make ergos.  If i cant change my order that is fine, Green Switches are hard to come by so i am sure i can sell them or find a use for them. with that said, i am nervous about finding plate mounted clear switches to make my ergos. 

so how do you guys feel about me adding swtiches to my order? if no is the answer that is cool. i will try to source them independently through 7-bit.
You can still change your order, but last I heard was they couldn't source white or clear switches. If you're looking to get some check out this IC
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42952.0;topicseen (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42952.0;topicseen)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 01 May 2013, 12:33:09
Question i thought of....Will we be able to use Mini USB to PS/2 Cables? i might want to pick one up, but can they be used with the GH60?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 01 May 2013, 13:10:51
I don't know of any firmware for the GH60 which supports PS/2.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 01 May 2013, 13:16:21
I'm curious why some people want a mini USB to PS/2 cable. Is it the cool thing to do? Or do you not have any USB ports open? You do know once it's plugged into the back of your computer, you'll never see the connector. And PS/2 isn't needed if you're looking for NKRO. You'll be just fine with USB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 01 May 2013, 13:27:29
:'( that really sucks.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 01 May 2013, 13:28:18
:'( that really sucks.

Why does it suck?
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 01 May 2013, 13:30:25
:'( that really sucks.

Why does it suck?

Just would have been cool

not a big deal :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:38:15
I'm curious why some people want a mini USB to PS/2 cable. Is it the cool thing to do? Or do you not have any USB ports open? You do know once it's plugged into the back of your computer, you'll never see the connector. And PS/2 isn't needed if you're looking for NKRO. You'll be just fine with USB.

It's certainly not an issue for me, but I'm sure it can be fun to want PS/2 instead of USB.  Plus, in a more practical sense, some computers only allow the use of 2 USB ports during boot/BIOS, so they require that you plug mouse/keyboard into those ports.  So PS/2 is less hassle in this sense I suppose.

Also, people probably think that NKRO is only available through PS/2.  I was not aware that it would be an option through USB for these boards.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: realex on Wed, 01 May 2013, 14:42:01
i think the ones claiming keyboard input via usb with 125hz/up to 8ms delay makes them worse at games compared to ps/2 input have never been and will never be good at a game anyway.

but well, blaming personal shortcomings on hardware is what keeps 90% of gaming peripheral manufacturers alive.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Wed, 01 May 2013, 16:11:24
I know it's probably a shot in the dark, but would there be a chance for me to get a ballpark figure for shipping costs? And what shipping method will be used for Europe? Yeah, I'm way late asking this, but it's time I estimate the shipping costs for this baby.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Tym on Wed, 01 May 2013, 16:13:11
I know it's probably a shot in the dark, but would there be a chance for me to get a ballpark figure for shipping costs? And what shipping method will be used for Europe? Yeah, I'm way late asking this, but it's time I estimate the shipping costs for this baby.

There is a European Distributor, and i think it was like $18.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Wed, 01 May 2013, 16:19:14
I know it's probably a shot in the dark, but would there be a chance for me to get a ballpark figure for shipping costs? And what shipping method will be used for Europe? Yeah, I'm way late asking this, but it's time I estimate the shipping costs for this baby.

There is a European Distributor, and i think it was like $18.

That's cheaper than what I pay from within the country  :eek:

Do we know whether they use DHL/whatever, or the postal service?
Title: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: remedyhalopc on Wed, 01 May 2013, 16:19:45
The only reason why I would want PS/2 is for those glorious cables that Mimic sells. Those connectors are gorgeous.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 01 May 2013, 16:26:32
I really only wanted PS/2 Because it looks sexy and it would take up one less usb spot on my rig...it's not a huge deal, but i assumed the GH60 was gonna include that.

i bet the poker doesn't allow PS/2 either then
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 01 May 2013, 16:29:59
I bet he could wire the cable to actively or passively adapt the signal. Might cost you more, but I've seen it done with other cables, so I imagine it is possible.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 01 May 2013, 16:30:55
I bet he could wire the cable to actively or passively adapt the signal. Might cost you more, but I've seen it done with other cables, so I imagine it is possible.

cost more from who?
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 01 May 2013, 16:31:35
I bet he could wire the cable to actively or passively adapt the signal. Might cost you more, but I've seen it done with other cables, so I imagine it is possible.

cost more from who?

Mimic
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 01 May 2013, 16:35:13
I bet he could wire the cable to actively or passively adapt the signal. Might cost you more, but I've seen it done with other cables, so I imagine it is possible.


cost more from who?

Mimic

this is mimic's thread http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36065.0
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 01 May 2013, 16:48:27
Mimic

my question was answered lol buy thanks!  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 02 May 2013, 09:03:18
It has been brought to my attention that my request to split the L-Shift key into two on the 'samwisekoi' plate effectively broke the design.  I assume that that plate still is in the low-volume category, so I have waited to mention anything until this thread calms down at least somewhat.

However, I think that the five or so people who wanted the GH60 plate with arrow keys (the 'samwisekoi' plate) should have the opportunity to have the left shift not be broken.

So unless people object, please REVERT the 'samwisekoi' plate to its original layout with a 2.25x L-Shift key.

Thank you and my apologies for fixing something that wasn't broken.

 - Ron I samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: cyberwave on Thu, 02 May 2013, 09:08:36
It has been brought to my attention that my request to split the L-Shift key into two on the 'samwisekoi' plate effectively broke the design.  I assume that that plate still is in the low-volume category, so I have waited to mention anything until this thread calms down at least somewhat.

However, I think that the five or so people who wanted the GH60 plate with arrow keys (the 'samwisekoi' plate) should have the opportunity to have the left shift not be broken.

So unless people object, please REVERT the 'samwisekoi' plate to its original layout with a 2.25x L-Shift key.

Thank you and my apologies for fixing something that wasn't broken.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

if this is the case, i'd take a samwisekoi plate  :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: rknize on Thu, 02 May 2013, 09:31:59
^ This.  The messed-up left shift was the main issue blocking my interest in this plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:01:31
^ This.  The messed-up left shift was the main issue blocking my interest in this plate.

Same, I had the samwise plate and then the shift split and I changed my order.
If the original layout is restored, I'm going to switch back.



Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: JBert on Thu, 02 May 2013, 10:29:35
I bet the poker doesn't allow PS/2 either then
You would lose that bet, I hooked up a Soarer Converter to my Poker and it worked just fine. It does use an off-the-shelf keyboard controller though with some slightly customized firmware, whereas the GH60 uses a general-purpose micro-controller.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:21:36
Any update on how costing ready for invoicing is coming along?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 02 May 2013, 22:20:44
I had to be AFK for a few days, but back now to take care of loose ends. We're just waiting on komar to come back from his small trip to finalize the PCB, and confirm shipping prices from Europe. There are a bunch of stabilizer change requests that still needs to be updated, so after I finish that, all numbers will be locked. If you need anything else changed, do it now.

For now, I'm putting the payment deadline on hold.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 03 May 2013, 00:58:46
please cancel my order of plate and stuff I will not be able to pay when the time comes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 03 May 2013, 01:01:03
please cancel my order of plate and stuff I will not be able to pay when the time comes.

I'll take the PCB if no one else has expressed wanting one
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mauri on Fri, 03 May 2013, 06:21:06
Is there still time to change my order? If so, would I need 7x spacebar? for the 1.5x iso

Edited my order, sorry had an epiphany of a layout similar to 1.5x but w/ a 6.25 spacebar :d
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Fri, 03 May 2013, 06:24:18
Is there still time to change my order?

If you need anything else changed, do it now.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 03 May 2013, 08:55:40
please cancel my order of plate and stuff I will not be able to pay when the time comes.
so umm yea just realised again i kinda do need my order. One thing though my prototype doent have a split backspace so the GH60 plate wont work which one would I need instead then? Or should I not hastle with a plate cause its a prototype?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: rknize on Fri, 03 May 2013, 10:49:18
What's the final word on the Samwisekoi plate?  If left shift is returning to "normal", I will be updating my plate order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:04:55
I'm still catching up with older PMs and order changes. I'll ask Ron again and once he confirms, I'll make the plate change. It's also questionable where the 1x key on the split R-shift should be, so I need to ask him about this as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 03 May 2013, 15:09:02
I'm still catching up with older PMs and order changes. I'll ask Ron again and once he confirms, I'll make the plate change. It's also questionable where the 1x key on the split R-shift should be, so I need to ask him about this as well.

Naturally, all my designs for this particular item are at home while I am at work, but here is the Rev A version of the GH60 'samwisekoi' design.  It is fundamentally normal ANSI except for the lower RH corner, where an inverted T arrow set has been squeezed in.  (This is the best alignment that the GH60 can support for the UP and DOWN arrow keys.)  The bottom row is 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1.5 - 1 - 1 - 1.5.  The ANSI R-Shift has been split into 1 - 1.75.

In this layout, you will have to put tilde/backtick in a function layer, but except for the 1.5 RIGHT arrow key, all the other keys are readily obtainable.

[attach=1]
Rev A GH60 'samwisekoi' layout.  60% ANSI plus an arrow cluster.

Hope this helps!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: tjweir on Fri, 03 May 2013, 15:40:38
(Attachment Link)
Rev A GH60 'samwisekoi' layout.  60% ANSI plus an arrow cluster.

Yes to this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 03 May 2013, 16:33:40
I'm still catching up with older PMs and order changes. I'll ask Ron again and once he confirms, I'll make the plate change. It's also questionable where the 1x key on the split R-shift should be, so I need to ask him about this as well.

Naturally, all my designs for this particular item are at home while I am at work, but here is the Rev A version of the GH60 'samwisekoi' design.  It is fundamentally normal ANSI except for the lower RH corner, where an inverted T arrow set has been squeezed in.  (This is the best alignment that the GH60 can support for the UP and DOWN arrow keys.)  The bottom row is 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1.5 - 1 - 1 - 1.5.  The ANSI R-Shift has been split into 1 - 1.75.

In this layout, you will have to put tilde/backtick in a function layer, but except for the 1.5 RIGHT arrow key, all the other keys are readily obtainable.

(Attachment Link)
Rev A GH60 'samwisekoi' layout.  60% ANSI plus an arrow cluster.

Hope this helps!

 - Ron | samwisekoi


this staggered arrows layout is pretty close if not the same to wasd!
Great work!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: cyberwave on Fri, 03 May 2013, 17:38:52
I'm still catching up with older PMs and order changes. I'll ask Ron again and once he confirms, I'll make the plate change. It's also questionable where the 1x key on the split R-shift should be, so I need to ask him about this as well.

Naturally, all my designs for this particular item are at home while I am at work, but here is the Rev A version of the GH60 'samwisekoi' design.  It is fundamentally normal ANSI except for the lower RH corner, where an inverted T arrow set has been squeezed in.  (This is the best alignment that the GH60 can support for the UP and DOWN arrow keys.)  The bottom row is 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1.5 - 1 - 1 - 1.5.  The ANSI R-Shift has been split into 1 - 1.75.

In this layout, you will have to put tilde/backtick in a function layer, but except for the 1.5 RIGHT arrow key, all the other keys are readily obtainable.

(Attachment Link)
Rev A GH60 'samwisekoi' layout.  60% ANSI plus an arrow cluster.

Hope this helps!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

i'd like this :)
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 03 May 2013, 17:46:17
I'm still catching up with older PMs and order changes. I'll ask Ron again and once he confirms, I'll make the plate change. It's also questionable where the 1x key on the split R-shift should be, so I need to ask him about this as well.

Naturally, all my designs for this particular item are at home while I am at work, but here is the Rev A version of the GH60 'samwisekoi' design.  It is fundamentally normal ANSI except for the lower RH corner, where an inverted T arrow set has been squeezed in.  (This is the best alignment that the GH60 can support for the UP and DOWN arrow keys.)  The bottom row is 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1.5 - 1 - 1 - 1.5.  The ANSI R-Shift has been split into 1 - 1.75.

In this layout, you will have to put tilde/backtick in a function layer, but except for the 1.5 RIGHT arrow key, all the other keys are readily obtainable.

(Attachment Link)
Rev A GH60 'samwisekoi' layout.  60% ANSI plus an arrow cluster.

Hope this helps!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Wow, I want one of these plates now :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 03 May 2013, 17:46:43
Is the Samwisekoi Layout supported with the Universal ANSI plate?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 03 May 2013, 17:58:39
It's amazing one small key change can have. I'm just waiting for Ron to confirm my PM before I make the official change to the plate and layout.

Yes, universal plate supports the samwisekoi layout.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 03 May 2013, 18:13:59
It's amazing one small key change can have. I'm just waiting for Ron to confirm my PM before I make the official change to the plate and layout.

This info is only pertinent for people who have already preordered his plate before the deadline, right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 03 May 2013, 18:37:46
It's amazing one small key change can have. I'm just waiting for Ron to confirm my PM before I make the official change to the plate and layout.

Yes, universal plate supports the samwisekoi layout.

YGPM!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 03 May 2013, 19:49:18
Why must I want everything?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 04 May 2013, 16:30:35
Here is the correction to samwisekoi's layout. One thing to note about this is that the extra 1x key next to the R-shift is still on the left. On the Pure layout, this is the "~" key, placed on the right of the R-shift. Also bottom row uses 1.25, 1.5x, and 1x key sizes so make sure you willing to look for appropriate caps. I'll send out a few PMs to those that could be affected by this change.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: gameaholic on Sat, 04 May 2013, 17:26:20
I'm sure this was probably discussed earlier but I don't want to dig through all the threads but will the GH60 support custom backlighting?  I'm hoping to light the wasd cluster with white, the esc in red, and the RGB modifiers in their respective colors.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 04 May 2013, 17:34:10
I'm sure this was probably discussed earlier but I don't want to dig through all the threads but will the GH60 support custom backlighting?  I'm hoping to light the wasd cluster with white, the esc in red, and the RGB modifiers in their respective colors.

I don't think the backlighting situation is fully resolved, but from what I remember, there will be some keys that are backlit, but mostly your standard ones.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 04 May 2013, 17:38:11
I may be wrong about this, but isn't the plate for HHKB incorrect? Shouldn't there be two holes where the backspace with stabs are?

Edit - Perhaps WFD used the wrong plate photo :P

(http://imageshack.us/a/img834/1583/hhkb.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mauri on Sat, 04 May 2013, 18:01:38
universal plates have the huge gaps for a big left shift,  do they still support short left shift? Someone said earlier they support the samwisekoi layout, which has one but I have to be sure.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 04 May 2013, 21:31:22
Jocelyn, you're correct in that there should be two hole cutouts in the backspace, and that it's the wrong picture. I accidentally used the same pic twice, from the plate right above it.

Dam correcting this will be a ***** because it'll mess up all the picture order :/


universal plates have the huge gaps for a big left shift,  do they still support short left shift? Someone said earlier they support the samwisekoi layout, which has one but I have to be sure.

Universal plates support all possible layouts pictured. There's just no interconversion between ISO and ANSI because of the Enter key, that's why there's a universal plate for both ANSI and ISO.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: noxwood on Sat, 04 May 2013, 22:07:00
Considering the large amount of orders, is it reasonable to assume that somebody will cancel/a subsequent order could be substituted?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 04 May 2013, 22:19:31
Just like with all group buys, there will always be someone that cancels later, but likewise there will always be someone that missed the GB and wants in.

I'm guess you're part of the 2nd group lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Aranair on Sat, 04 May 2013, 23:31:03
mm, just a quick question/confirmation:

There is no way to get this configuration right?
- long right shift,
- split backspace,
- HHKB/WKL style 1.5 mods for bottom row.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 04 May 2013, 23:33:48
mm, just a quick question/confirmation:

There is no way to get this configuration right?
- long right shift,
- split backspace,
- HHKB/WKL style 1.5 mods for bottom row.

Yes, the PCB supports it. You can go without a plate, and use PCB mount switches, or use the Universal (ANSI or ISO) plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Aranair on Sat, 04 May 2013, 23:45:39
Ah, okay. mmm. Are there any drawbacks on using a universal plate, as opposed to one thats fixed to a certain config?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 04 May 2013, 23:50:44
Ah, okay. mmm. Are there any drawbacks on using a universal plate, as opposed to one thats fixed to a certain config?

You must use cherry PCB stabilizers with the universal plate. That's really about it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Aranair on Sat, 04 May 2013, 23:53:22
Ah, I see. Thanks! I'll have to quickly consider the config again D:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 05 May 2013, 00:11:33
Ah, I see. Thanks! I'll have to quickly consider the config again D:

You do know ordering closed over a week ago, right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: remedyhalopc on Sun, 05 May 2013, 01:36:15
speaking of, when is invoicing!?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 05 May 2013, 07:22:23
speaking of, when is invoicing!?
Once they finish all the order changes and count/price everything.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 05 May 2013, 12:45:47
speaking of, when is invoicing!?

Probably won't happen until the end of the week. We're still waiting to get final quotes back from the PCB company. It may be a tad lower than $30 for presoldered PCBs  :). Everything else has been counted already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 05 May 2013, 12:48:23
speaking of, when is invoicing!?

Probably won't happen until the end of the week. We're still waiting to get final quotes back from the PCB company. It may be a tad lower than $30 for presoldered PCBs  :). Everything else has been counted already.
A $10~ reduction is a nice surprise. Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 05 May 2013, 13:00:10
I'll be stoked if it comes in a little cheaper than $30. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 05 May 2013, 22:44:39
I'll be stoked if it comes in a little cheaper than $30.
Same here! So I would guess money collection might run passed the 13th? No later than the 27th?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: 7bit on Tue, 07 May 2013, 03:00:45
Hey dude can you reply to the PMs I sent you? I'm trying to collaborate with you, and it's so hard to get things done when you don't communicate. I just want to know if your source can deliver earlier as mine and if so, I want to order some switches from your source.

Thanks!

;-)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 07 May 2013, 05:03:30
Oh did you PM me? Sure, just fill in the order form with which switch and how many you need. It’s a late order, but since I’m such a nice guy, I’ll allow it.

Thanks!

;-)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: 7bit on Tue, 07 May 2013, 05:14:38
Sorry, this was not my question.

My question is:

Will it make sense to order from you?
It does not make sense if your supplier does not have them in stock and waiting time is the same as for ordering from my supplier.

Also, I don't know the price including shipping to me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 07 May 2013, 07:37:41
(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-19429-Ill-allow-it-Senor-Chang-commu-UYei.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: T0ken on Tue, 07 May 2013, 13:55:39
Sorry, this was not my question.

My question is:

Will it make sense to order from you?
It does not make sense if your supplier does not have them in stock and waiting time is the same as for ordering from my supplier.

Also, I don't know the price including shipping to me.

...So I can;t be the only one here who is confused...I cancelled my switches from this GB to order from 7 bit directly and now 7 bit is trying to order from this GB...I thought switches from this GB were coming later than 7 bit...

I know things are volatile, but can someone shed light here on how we can best guarantee that can get switches by the earliest possible time?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 07 May 2013, 14:16:18
Sorry, this was not my question.

My question is:

Will it make sense to order from you?
It does not make sense if your supplier does not have them in stock and waiting time is the same as for ordering from my supplier.

Also, I don't know the price including shipping to me.

...So I can;t be the only one here who is confused...I cancelled my switches from this GB to order from 7 bit directly and now 7 bit is trying to order from this GB...I thought switches from this GB were coming later than 7 bit...

I know things are volatile, but can someone shed light here on how we can best guarantee that can get switches by the earliest possible time?

Haha, I did the same, but frankly I don't think it matters cause afaik the pcbs, plates and stabs are not posted until late summer or fall (?) and so are 7bits switches (sep-oct?) And I don't think he is trying to order them from the gb, he's merely trying to pry whether should he change supplier for this gb. Or I'm just as clueless and confused as you :d
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: 7bit on Tue, 07 May 2013, 14:45:50
Rumors say that certain switches will be available through another secret source somewhere in East Asia, which had been discovered by the GB organisers.

If this source can deliver within less time or at lesat is cheaper then it would be better if I would order from this source too.

Even better, those GH60-tagged orders could be sent directly to the WhiteFireDragon.

This might be cheaper (I would not be involved with these orders) and I could refund the too much paid money or just forward it to the WhiteFireDragon.

I need to know: Which switches are available (exact product codes) and if they are in stock or not. Does not make sense for me to wait even longer.

 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 07 May 2013, 14:54:28
Our supplier has MX Red, Brown, Blue, Black, Green, Dark Grey. Both plate mount and PCB mount.

I'm not sure if they have stock to fill orders above the numbers I gave him. Greens are short stocked, but he says the Greens will be delivered in September.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 07 May 2013, 18:00:47
Our supplier has MX Red, Brown, Blue, Black, Green, Dark Grey. Both plate mount and PCB mount.

I'm not sure if they have stock to fill orders above the numbers I gave him. Greens are short stocked, but he says the Greens will be delivered in September.

What about light grey?
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 07 May 2013, 18:25:06
What about light grey?

Nope, they can't get tactile grays
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Tue, 07 May 2013, 18:35:06
Question re: assembly:

If someone orders a universal plate (and switches and assembly fee), but isn't yet sure which optional config to use (standard alphanumeric placement notwithstanding)...

What happens? Partial assembly, sans mods?

Would adding pcb-mounted switches in the 'universal' holes (requirement of universal plate), after the rest of the switches have been plate mounted, be problematic? (adding pcb-mounted switches/stabs to an already mostly plate-mounted board?)
Title: Re: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 07 May 2013, 18:51:38
What about light grey?

Nope, they can't get tactile grays

So, what do I do? Do I change my order?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 07 May 2013, 18:54:49
So, what do I do? Do I change my order?

Probably. Choices would be to cancel, change to a different switch color, or order clears/gray tactile from 7bit or somewhere else. 

PS - Grays and clears use the same stem.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:10:05
So, what do I do? Do I change my order?

Probably. Choices would be to cancel, change to a different switch color, or order clears/gray tactile from 7bit or somewhere else. 

PS - Grays and clears use the same stem.

If i order from 7bit, how do I make sure it gets to the right person?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:51:47
UPDATE:

THE SWITCH SUPPLIER JUST INFORMED ME THAT THE ONLY GREY SWITCHES HE HAS ARE ACTUALLY LINEAR (DARK GREY).

THESE WILL NOT WORK FOR "ERGO-CLEAR" MOD.

SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION, AS I WAS JUST INFORMED OF THIS JUST NOW. IF YOU NEED TO CANCEL SWITCHES, PLEASE SUBMIT AN ORDER CHANGE REQUEST.


You can still order MX Clear or MX Grey (tactile) from 7bit on Deskthority, or we will place the order with 7bit if you order them through this GB.

I guess I should have kept reposting this on every page. :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Sai on Tue, 07 May 2013, 20:09:21
I guess I should have kept reposting this on every page. :(

or on your sig?  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 07 May 2013, 20:15:57
after JD helped me with my order a month or so ago i made a choice to not change my order no matter what. if i want something different i will just order it and have more keyboard parts. i felt this even stronger when i saw the spreadsheet and all the nonsense switch orders.

i am pretty stoked for this. got my hakko 888d yesterday and i am going to rip through some ebay boards for the hell of it and switch collecting. plus practice.  another thing i am thinking about is making ergo clears, but here is the thing. i love blues and hate browns (the only mx switch i do not like). will i like ergo clears? i think browns feel scratchy.

keep it wu-tang mother****ers.
Title: Re: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 07 May 2013, 21:50:52
UPDATE:

THE SWITCH SUPPLIER JUST INFORMED ME THAT THE ONLY GREY SWITCHES HE HAS ARE ACTUALLY LINEAR (DARK GREY).

THESE WILL NOT WORK FOR "ERGO-CLEAR" MOD.

SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION, AS I WAS JUST INFORMED OF THIS JUST NOW. IF YOU NEED TO CANCEL SWITCHES, PLEASE SUBMIT AN ORDER CHANGE REQUEST.


You can still order MX Clear or MX Grey (tactile) from 7bit on Deskthority, or we will place the order with 7bit if you order them through this GB.

I guess I should have kept reposting this on every page. :(

So, I can key my gb order setup with the light greys then. This sounds good.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:28:28
Can I get tactile grey switches?  Maybe I should send you a PM...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: j2c8w6f8 on Sun, 12 May 2013, 09:10:51
Our supplier has MX Red, Brown, Blue, Black, Green, Dark Grey. Both plate mount and PCB mount.

I'm not sure if they have stock to fill orders above the numbers I gave him. Greens are short stocked, but he says the Greens will be delivered in September.


all of these switches are $0.6 each?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 12 May 2013, 09:39:01
Our supplier has MX Red, Brown, Blue, Black, Green, Dark Grey. Both plate mount and PCB mount.

I'm not sure if they have stock to fill orders above the numbers I gave him. Greens are short stocked, but he says the Greens will be delivered in September.


all of these switches are $0.6 each?
Negative ghost rider! 60 cent each (if we're lucky) will most likely be a little more.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkaito on Sun, 12 May 2013, 09:49:50
Can we expect the invoicing to be done by early next month? I'm in no hurry. In fact, it would benefit me if the payment deadline was extended until around June 5th.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 12 May 2013, 13:46:22
Can we expect the invoicing to be done by early next month? I'm in no hurry. In fact, it would benefit me if the payment deadline was extended until around June 5th.
Payment is a little behind, BUT! I would be setting aside money as soon as possible cause invoice could start at anytime.
Be ready guys!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Leslieann on Sun, 12 May 2013, 17:00:08
all of these switches are $0.6 each?
Negative ghost rider! 60 cent each (if we're lucky) will most likely be a little more.

.6 dollars is 60 cents.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 12 May 2013, 17:10:04
lulz.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 12 May 2013, 17:51:16
^ Math fail  :))

We're just waiting for komar to confirm everything before invoicing starts. I'm trying to push for it but he requested to wait a tad longer.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 12 May 2013, 19:33:05
Good to hear that komar is waiting to completely finalise everything and is not trying to complete it in a rush.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: RickyJ on Sun, 12 May 2013, 20:02:17
Will wait for moar betta PCB. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 12 May 2013, 20:03:27
^ Math fail  :))

We're just waiting for komar to confirm everything before invoicing starts. I'm trying to push for it but he requested to wait a tad longer.

Stop trying to push komar :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Sun, 12 May 2013, 20:48:10
I added 60 or so brown switches to my order awhile ago and they still aren't in the order confirmation. Just wanted to make sure you got my order. Can't wait to get mine!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 12 May 2013, 21:15:00
I apologize to anyone whose order change hasn't been processed. I am responsible for the switch order changes and I will get them done, you can be sure. I've just been very busy, and life has gotten in the way of GB stuff for me right this moment. If you have placed an order change, we do have it, and it will be processed. Thanks for your understanding.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Sun, 12 May 2013, 23:00:34
I apologize to anyone whose order change hasn't been processed. I am responsible for the switch order changes and I will get them done, you can be sure. I've just been very busy, and life has gotten in the way of GB stuff for me right this moment. If you have placed an order change, we do have it, and it will be processed. Thanks for your understanding.

 No pressure, I just wanted to make sure my order was in. Thanks for all your work in the project!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 12 May 2013, 23:24:48
^ Math fail  :))

We're just waiting for komar to confirm everything before invoicing starts. I'm trying to push for it but he requested to wait a tad longer.
Derp  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: gimpster on Tue, 14 May 2013, 12:38:12
This sucks...I checked out of the forums for a couple of months when I changed jobs and I come back to find out that I've missed the order window for the GH60 and the KS Mini is KS M.I.A. At least I've got the GH75 to look forward to for that one, but I've got a killer case that needs a GH60, so if anyone has a PCB w/ SMD soldered and a Pure plate they'd be willing to let me snag from them, I'd appreciate it. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 12:41:16
Or you could send that killer case over here! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: gimpster on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:39:04
Hahahahaha! No...

(http://www.gpb.org/files/imagecache/340x255/grumpy-cat-final.jpg)

But you can eat your heart out on the pics. ;)

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/poker-aluminum-case-t3406.html
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:40:44
I was going to allow you to place a late order, but you just killed my hopes and dreams with that Duck Poker case. :'(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: gimpster on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:43:17
I was going to allow you to place a late order, but you just killed my hopes and dreams with that Duck Poker case. :'(

I can let you touch it if you fly up here. ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:44:33
Just ship it down here and let me touch it. I will ship it back. I swear. Sooner or later...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:44:42
I was going to allow you to place a late order, but you just killed my hopes and dreams with that Duck Poker case. :'(

I can let you touch it if you fly up here. ;)

TWSS?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: gimpster on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:26:17
Indeed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:54:59
So are we going to be invoiced?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:58:37
So are we going to be invoiced?

No, free GH60s for everyone!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:05:53
So are we going to be invoiced?

No, free GH60s for everyone!

Amen
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:32:03
I was going to allow you to place a late order, but you just killed my hopes and dreams with that Duck Poker case. :'(

I can let you touch it if you fly up here. ;)

Easy. This is a family forum.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: gimpster on Tue, 14 May 2013, 18:02:48
I was going to allow you to place a late order, but you just killed my hopes and dreams with that Duck Poker case. :'(

I can let you touch it if you fly up here. ;)

Easy. This is a family forum.

lolwut?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: sth on Tue, 14 May 2013, 22:58:58
I was going to allow you to place a late order, but you just killed my hopes and dreams with that Duck Poker case. :'(

I can let you touch it if you fly up here. ;)

Easy. This is a family forum.

i want to touch your penus

but i won't if you don't want me to

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 14 May 2013, 23:16:43
Lulz
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 15 May 2013, 07:08:54
LOL
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: gimpster on Wed, 15 May 2013, 18:48:27
I was going to allow you to place a late order, but you just killed my hopes and dreams with that Duck Poker case. :'(

I can let you touch it if you fly up here. ;)

Easy. This is a family forum.

i want to touch your penus

but i won't if you don't want me to



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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:31:22
lol'd so hard!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 16 May 2013, 14:10:39
I was going to allow you to place a late order, but you just killed my hopes and dreams with that Duck Poker case. :'(

I can let you touch it if you fly up here. ;)

Easy. This is a family forum.

i want to touch your penus

but i won't if you don't want me to



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sth is an attractive man. i won't deny it. wait, is this on the record?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: daerid on Fri, 17 May 2013, 11:08:34
When is invoicing? Did I miss that post?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 17 May 2013, 11:12:38
When is invoicing? Did I miss that post?

a few pages back they said they are finalizing the pcb and will keep us updated.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 18 May 2013, 04:01:28
When is invoicing? Did I miss that post?
Start saving dah moneys!!! It can't be that far away!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: sth on Mon, 20 May 2013, 19:17:06

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sth is an attractive man.

yeah i know it
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: nlak on Tue, 21 May 2013, 10:43:24
Not that I wish anyone bad fortune but I hope someone has to cancel so I can get in on this! ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 21 May 2013, 11:05:54
Wait till they're able to 3D print you a ballin' case bro. :llama:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: PandaSPUR on Wed, 22 May 2013, 11:06:55
Wish I found out bout these forums and got into the 60% keyboard craze earlier... I want one ):
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Chesshire on Wed, 22 May 2013, 14:17:10
Wish I had not had some stupid life thing come up and had to back out... things are stabilized now and I want one still... :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 22 May 2013, 14:25:04
You do realize there were like 700 PCBs orderd, right? Plenty of people are bound to back out / sell their spot
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 22 May 2013, 16:26:39
You do realize there were like 700 PCBs orderd, right? Plenty of people are bound to back out / sell their spot

i think sth is selling his order in his wtb/wtt thread
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 22 May 2013, 16:31:25
You do realize there were like 700 PCBs orderd, right? Plenty of people are bound to back out / sell their spot

i think sth is selling his order in his wtb/wtt thread

He does, along with 1.5x ANSI and stabs. I wish I had picked up a universal plate, but I'm sure at least one will pop up for sale.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 22 May 2013, 16:34:00
You do realize there were like 700 PCBs orderd, right? Plenty of people are bound to back out / sell their spot

i think sth is selling his order in his wtb/wtt thread

He does, along with 1.5x ANSI and stabs. I wish I had picked up a universal plate, but I'm sure at least one will pop up for sale.

no doubt one will come up that you can buy
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 22 May 2013, 16:51:03
Selling something he hasn't even paid for?  Why doesn't he just transfer the item to the guy who wants it.  Unless..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: mauri on Wed, 22 May 2013, 16:55:37
Selling something he hasn't even paid for?  Why doesn't he just transfer the item to the guy who wants it.  Unless..

Being somewhere in the right time can sometimes bear fruitful rewards
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: sth on Wed, 22 May 2013, 16:55:43
Selling something he hasn't even paid for?  Why doesn't he just transfer the item to the guy who wants it.  Unless..

that's a mighty fine torch and pitchfork playset you have there. i'm not selling it, i'm transferring the order to whoever claims it first.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 25 May 2013, 01:25:04
Got my invoice from tjcaustin. PAID :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 25 May 2013, 01:34:33
Invoiving?  That's more than a little exciting... (I presume it was just a test invoice though - even still :D :D :D)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: affect656 on Sat, 25 May 2013, 01:36:45
Received invoice and paid. Geekhack is breaking my wallet
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 25 May 2013, 01:36:55
Invoiving?  That's more than a little exciting... (I presume it was just a test invoice though - even still :D :D :D)

I sent a handful to test binds on my mouse, more inc tomorrow
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 25 May 2013, 02:15:41
Welp! Better start ****'n mah self out!  :-*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:10:03
UPDATE - invoicing has started.

Final prices that include fees, all shipping from factory to us, and/or VAT. Shipping to you is separate, and will depend on location:

PCB (SMD presoldered) - $28
PCB (DIY, includes SMT components) - $15
bare PCB (no components) - $6
Plate - $16
Switches - $0.63
cherry stabilizers - $9
Costar stabilizers - $7
Assembly - $25
 

Shipping
US - $11
Canada - $15
Europe - $21
Slovakia/Czech Republic - $11
Africa - $26
Asia - $28
Australia - $32



If your order is too heavy or require a bigger box, it will be $5-10 more for shipping.

The final PCB will have 11 holes for optional LEDs (Esc, Caps, WASD, spacebar, arrow cluster). White or red LEDs with appropriate resistors will be included for the all PCBs except the bare PCBs (duh). If you choose to install these, you must solder them on yourself unless you got the assembly service.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:23:10
Are the PCBs being produced in EU, shipped to komar, and then shipped by komar to the us or are they being produced in the us?

I'm only asking because I swear someone said komar would be shipping EU orders.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:23:42
Oh wow, I'm ready :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:26:07
Are the PCBs being produced in EU, shipped to komar, and then shipped by komar to the us or are they being produced in the us?

I'm only asking because I swear someone said komar would be shipping EU orders.

I think Komar is producing them; then shipping the US ones to the states and dispatching the EU ones.
If this is correct then I'm surprised by the $21 shipping costs. Oh well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:29:42
PCBs are made in China, and package is split to go to US and Poland. jdcarpe and I are taking care of US and Canada orders, komar is shipping to the rest of the world.

Stainless steel plates and a bag or two of switches are not light.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:31:05
PCBs are made in China, and package is split to go to US and Poland. jdcarpe and I are taking care of US and Canada orders, komar is shipping to the rest of the world.
Thanks for clarification.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pexon on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:34:47
If he is shipping from Poland to Europe, why is it 21 USD?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jmneuv on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:36:06
Wondering the same, you'd expect the detour to save on shipping for Europe.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:42:19
Not sure. I only personally did the calculations for the US and Canada, komar estimated for the rest of the world since I'm not familiar with shipping services over there. I'll check with him again on this, but in the meantime you can punch in some numbers yourself to doublecheck. He did it  based on a 1kg package.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pexon on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:46:39
I cant speak or read Polish, but I am sure the local Post Office in Poland would be able to do it cheaper than 21 USD
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:49:51
A pcb? 1kg? My spare blackwidow pcb and metal plate only weighs 600g. I think a cheaper shipping method should be worked out for those who only ordered a pcb because if I'm honest $21 is far too high.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pexon on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:52:15
A pcb? 1kg? My spare blackwidow pcb and metal plate only weighs 600g. I think a cheaper shipping method should be worked out for those who only ordered a pcb because if I'm honest $21 is far too high.

If it was with DHL and it included tacking, OK, I can expect that price, but if it is going through the standard post office, 21 USD is too high, I agree.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:55:21
I cant speak or read Polish, but I am sure the local Post Office in Poland would be able to do it cheaper than 21 USD

Yes, it could. Without tracking.
Well it could be around $18 for UK if I ship with economy.
I could also do a super-dooper cheap $8 letter, but I have no idea in what state it'll get to you.
If anyone in Europe can offer better shipping prices, I don't insist on being the distributor.

EDIT: so far, if your cost seems too high (you've ordered just a PCB for example), please contact me before paying and we'll modify that. The $21 price is for 1kg package, I assumed at least one assembled GH60, switches and a plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:56:34
I cant speak or read Polish, but I am sure the local Post Office in Poland would be able to do it cheaper than 21 USD

Yes, it could. Without tracking.
Well it could be around $18 for UK if I ship with economy.
I could also do a super-dooper cheap $8 letter, but I have no idea in what state it'll get to you.
If anyone in Europe can offer better shipping prices, I don't insist on being the distributor.
So does the $21 postage include full tracking? I don't mind paying $21 if it's fully tracked.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pexon on Sat, 25 May 2013, 06:57:43
I cant speak or read Polish, but I am sure the local Post Office in Poland would be able to do it cheaper than 21 USD

Yes, it could. Without tracking.
Well it could be around $18 for UK if I ship with economy.
I could also do a super-dooper cheap $8 letter, but I have no idea in what state it'll get to you.
If anyone in Europe can offer better shipping prices, I don't insist on being the distributor.

Who is that with Komar? The 21 USD method? TNT/ DHL?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 25 May 2013, 07:06:43
I cant speak or read Polish, but I am sure the local Post Office in Poland would be able to do it cheaper than 21 USD

Yes, it could. Without tracking.
Well it could be around $18 for UK if I ship with economy.
I could also do a super-dooper cheap $8 letter, but I have no idea in what state it'll get to you.
If anyone in Europe can offer better shipping prices, I don't insist on being the distributor.

EDIT: so far, if your cost seems too high (you've ordered just a PCB for example), please contact me before paying and we'll modify that. The $21 price is for 1kg package, I assumed at least one assembled GH60, switches and a plate.

I was hoping shipping to the UK would be less - especially since my order is just a PCB and a plate (no switches, no stabilizers etc).  Once the invoice arrives I'll drop you a PM to see what you reckon it could be.  I have a spare PCB here from a tipro and the corresponding plate and they weigh just over 500g together (and are larger than a GH60 will be as it was a 128 switch model)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Sat, 25 May 2013, 07:09:47
20 bucks sounds about right, for the pcb, plate,stabs and switches, at least for me. I'd have to pay 10 ish quid for the switches' shipping costs as well as another tenner for the pcb and such. Tho there seems to be no reason for to even ever having ordered them to komar in the first place :d

Switches from 7bit do come along with the other stufff right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 25 May 2013, 07:13:34
Yup, you're right. $21 is a bit steep for EU, but there's not much I can do about it. This is for a regular mail priority int'l mail, 1kg.
If anyone can offer better prices (Germany, anyone?) and would like to do all or part of the EU distribution and get their GH60 order for free, please write to me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pexon on Sat, 25 May 2013, 07:36:15
I echo others, all I have is the DIY PCB and plate, no switches, so I am somewhat dubious to the combined weight of my items totalling anywhere near 1kg
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Tym on Sat, 25 May 2013, 07:38:25
I think what he is saying; there is no cheaper shipping option for him to use.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: osxoep on Sat, 25 May 2013, 07:38:32
I'm not in a position to help with distribution (sorry :()
But if someone wants to do it from the UK, the prices are:

AreaSmallMedium
UK£4.10($6.10)£6.75($10.20)
Europe£7.85($11.91)£?.??
RoW£12.60($19.12)£?.??

UK Small package is 450mm x 350mm x 80mm
UK Medium package is 460mm x 460mm x 610mm
International small package is: length + width + height < 900mm with no single side greater than 600mm. So around the same as the UK one.
Prices based on <1kg

Royal mail doesn't list medium parcels for international on its website.
UK is signed for, International isn't.
International is £5.30($8.04) extra for signed for or £5.40 ($8.19) extra for Airsure (increased tracking to delivery point)
These are kinda estimates and packaging will bring additional costs.

yay research.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 25 May 2013, 07:39:21
Yup, you're right. $21 is a bit steep for EU, but there's not much I can do about it. This is for a regular mail priority int'l mail, 1kg.
If anyone can offer better prices (Germany, anyone?) and would like to do all or part of the EU distribution and get their GH60 order for free, please write to me.
Is the regular mail priority fully tracked/recorded all the way to its destination?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 25 May 2013, 07:40:03
We're working on this. New options will appear.


Yup, you're right. $21 is a bit steep for EU, but there's not much I can do about it. This is for a regular mail priority int'l mail, 1kg.
If anyone can offer better prices (Germany, anyone?) and would like to do all or part of the EU distribution and get their GH60 order for free, please write to me.
Is the regular mail priority fully tracked/recorded all the way to its destination?

Yes, at least it works like that for the US, so I'm assuming to the EU as well.


I think what he is saying; there is no cheaper shipping option for him to use.


I could do regular, not tracked mail for <1kg orders for $7. I'm just rather hesitant. There's no guarantee it'll even get there. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: kaiserreich on Sat, 25 May 2013, 09:06:02
Since komar is handling the shipping for non US, Canada, are these shipments subject to VAT?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Sat, 25 May 2013, 09:16:21
Since komar is handling the shipping for non US, Canada, are these shipments subject to VAT?

I'd assume not, no receipts, no price. Who determines the price on an innocent looking pcb and slab of metal? Of course every country has different protocols so I can't tell. Could be that there's already chinese vat in the prices the organizers are paying.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Tym on Sat, 25 May 2013, 09:18:18
Since komar is handling the shipping for non US, Canada, are these shipments subject to VAT?

I'd assume not, no receipts, no price. Who determines the price on an innocent looking pcb and slab of metal? Of course every country has different protocols so I can't tell.

They would have to mark the price on the packet for insurance purpose' that's how they get you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: numerus on Sat, 25 May 2013, 10:47:27
@komar how many orders are at all for EU? my be i can manage something, but first i should check the price in our Company fo DHL EU normaly it is 8,90€ until 2kg. ink. inshurance of 500€. and Tracking.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 25 May 2013, 11:51:13
@komar how many orders are at all for EU? my be i can manage something, but first i should check the price in our Company fo DHL EU normaly it is 8,90€ until 2kg. ink. inshurance of 500€. and Tracking.

Would be great!
I'll count the EU orders in a minute.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 25 May 2013, 12:00:59
One thing I was thinking - do all of the above estimates include the tax that would be incurred importing this stuff into Poland / Germany / wherever else?  As that may wipe out any savings on postage - just a thought.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 25 May 2013, 12:01:23
@komar how many orders are at all for EU? my be i can manage something, but first i should check the price in our Company fo DHL EU normaly it is 8,90€ until 2kg. ink. inshurance of 500€. and Tracking.
This would be awesome. DHL is by far the best courier.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 25 May 2013, 12:04:30
One thing I was thinking - do all of the above estimates include the tax that would be incurred importing this stuff into Poland / Germany / wherever else?  As that may wipe out any savings on postage - just a thought.

Our prices include what we have to cover. All taxes and stuff. Shipping to EU will be from EU, so no taxes will be incurred, USA has no problem either. Only the rest of the world will have to cope with their local taxes.

@komar how many orders are at all for EU? my be i can manage something, but first i should check the price in our Company fo DHL EU normaly it is 8,90€ until 2kg. ink. inshurance of 500€. and Tracking.

Would be great!
I'll count the EU orders in a minute.

There are less than 100. I counted about 94 addresses. People from the US could really write USA at the end of their address, but I've learned to recognize USA by the address format, I don't even look at the 2-letter state name anymore:D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Trueno86 on Sat, 25 May 2013, 13:40:15
Sorry if I missed it, but are we expecting an email or PM?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjweir on Sat, 25 May 2013, 14:35:00
Awww yeah!

This is going to be great.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 25 May 2013, 15:05:09
So all the invoices have not gone out correct?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 25 May 2013, 15:07:16
So all the invoices have not gone out correct?

No??
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 25 May 2013, 15:08:31
So all the invoices have not gone out correct?

No??
Sorry, I just realize how awkwardly I had worded that question..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 25 May 2013, 15:10:12
So all the invoices have not gone out correct?

Correct, I woke up to a water heater trying to flood my house so I've not had time to create/send more.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 25 May 2013, 15:14:53
So all the invoices have not gone out correct?

No??
Sorry, I just realize how awkwardly I had worded that question..
Wow, I totally misread your post and thought you had said "So all the invoices have gone out correct?" :p

Correct, I woke up to a water heater trying to flood my house so I've not had time to create/send more.

Poor guy :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 25 May 2013, 15:20:34
Correct, I woke up to a water heater trying to flood my house so I've not had time to create/send more.

that sucks, been there before.


--


patiently waiting for my wallet to get raped by this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 25 May 2013, 15:25:40
New shipping prices coming soon!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 25 May 2013, 16:20:37
I got a lot of PMs, mostly on order changes. I suppose you can still change orders (just fill it out HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform) instead of PMing me), but once you've been invoiced, there will no more changes. We need stable numbers for quotes and invoicing.


And shipping stuff is fairly complicated, because every order is different and there are many regions to ship to. We now have to micromanage the shipping cost, so here are the conditions that are easiest for us and cheapest for you:

Non US and Canada packages:
tier1: envelope $5 - 1 plate, PCB, stabilizer set
tier2: envelope $10 - 1 plate, PCB, stab set, 1 bag of switches
tier3: economy box $18 - few plates, few PCB, few bags of switches, if under 1kg
Priority - variable depending on weight and country

US
Priority $11, very large orders will require large flat rate box for $16

Canada
First Class International $15 or $20 based on weight


"envelope" from Poland means the bubble mailer or thin carton boxes. They'll be wrapped with a layer of bubble wrap, but not much protection other than that. "Economy box" is a normal box, and takes between a week to over a month to arrive. Priority (poland) will be more, but is probably faster. These are based on request, otherwise your shipping will default to envelope or economy box. Just request it HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform). These cheaper methods are at your own risk


PCB with SMD - 80g
plate - 150g
stab set - 12g
bag (65) switches - 112g



Summary:
US - $11
Canada - $15, $20
Europe - $5, $10, $18, $21
Slovakia/Czech Republic - $11
Africa - $5, $10, $18, $26
Asia - $5, $10, $18, $28
Australia - $5, $10, $18, $32
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 25 May 2013, 16:28:49
I believe first class mail is up to 4lb right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 25 May 2013, 16:34:04
Yes, first class international from the US is 4lbs max. elton, yours is the only order from Canada that will be $25 because you bought a bunch of plates and switches. This is too heavy for $20, and I've marked this in the spreadsheet already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: viasacra89 on Sat, 25 May 2013, 17:06:32
Payment sent. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Sat, 25 May 2013, 17:16:30
otherwise your shipping will default to envelope or economy box.

So uhh if you've ordered a pcb and accessories the package is by default envelope (10$) If more pcbs it's 18$? And priority on request?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jmneuv on Sat, 25 May 2013, 17:18:51
Thanks much for the shipping revision, you gh60's are awesome!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:30:55
So uhh if you've ordered a pcb and accessories the package is by default envelope (10$) If more pcbs it's 18$? And priority on request?

For your specific case, you have a PCB, plate and stab set, no switches. That can be shipped for $5 envelope. But for example if someone ordered 2 or 3 PCB and no plate, this can also be shipped $5 envelope. There's no way I can list all possibilities, but you should be able to know the approximate weights based on what I already listed.

You can request for priority, but they any weight under 1kg will be charged the same rate as 1kg. So even if you bought just a PCB and wanted to ship priority, it's still $21. I'm not arbitrarily setting these prices, everything is verifiable on all the post office websites.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Sat, 25 May 2013, 18:42:14
So uhh if you've ordered a pcb and accessories the package is by default envelope (10$) If more pcbs it's 18$? And priority on request?

For your specific case, you have a PCB, plate and stab set, no switches. That can be shipped for $5 envelope. But for example if someone ordered 2 or 3 PCB and no plate, this can also be shipped $5 envelope. There's no way I can list all possibilities, but you should be able to know the approximate weights based on what I already listed.

You can request for priority, but they any weight under 1kg will be charged the same rate as 1kg. So even if you bought just a PCB and wanted to ship priority, it's still $21. I'm not arbitrarily setting these prices, everything is verifiable on all the post office websites.

Yeah I'm not asking how my order "can" be shipped, rather how it will be shipped if I don't specify what kind of shipment I want. Will it be the original 21$ or 5/10$

Also, I've ordered my switches from 7bit with the gh60 tag so they'll be shipped to komar (Or that's what I gathered), no relevance here tho : D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: bugsaint on Sun, 26 May 2013, 02:26:05
Not received an invoice yet but I assume its in process. I'm in no rush as I'm still hunting down a case for it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 26 May 2013, 02:43:56
So uhh if you've ordered a pcb and accessories the package is by default envelope (10$) If more pcbs it's 18$? And priority on request?

For your specific case, you have a PCB, plate and stab set, no switches. That can be shipped for $5 envelope. But for example if someone ordered 2 or 3 PCB and no plate, this can also be shipped $5 envelope. There's no way I can list all possibilities, but you should be able to know the approximate weights based on what I already listed.

You can request for priority, but they any weight under 1kg will be charged the same rate as 1kg. So even if you bought just a PCB and wanted to ship priority, it's still $21. I'm not arbitrarily setting these prices, everything is verifiable on all the post office websites.

Yeah I'm not asking how my order "can" be shipped, rather how it will be shipped if I don't specify what kind of shipment I want. Will it be the original 21$ or 5/10$

Also, I've ordered my switches from 7bit with the gh60 tag so they'll be shipped to komar (Or that's what I gathered), no relevance here tho : D

That reminds me of one problem.
If we send switches or assembled boards with switches with your order (Non US/CA), please use at least tier3 ($18) shipping option.
We have no idea if you ordered switches from 7bit or not so far.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 26 May 2013, 03:24:26
I got a lot of PMs, mostly on order changes. I suppose you can still change orders (just fill it out HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform) instead of PMing me), but once you've been invoiced, there will no more changes. We need stable numbers for quotes and invoicing.

Oooh - didn't realise final tweaks were still allowed.  In that case I've submitted a small change (one more PCB with SMD presoldered).

Thanks

George
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: agor on Sun, 26 May 2013, 08:03:22
How is the status on Clear Switches? Especially for EU Orders - will you order them via 7bit, or do I have to do something?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 26 May 2013, 08:31:33
If they aren't available then Pexon is running a groupbuy for them right now
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 26 May 2013, 08:37:31
If they aren't available then Pexon is running a groupbuy for them right now

Yes, but those are plate mount. I know they'll work fine, but it's not as ideal imo.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 26 May 2013, 10:47:34
Good point...  I forgot about that (mainly as I have a load of PCB mount housings that I could swap them with!)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: kaiserreich on Sun, 26 May 2013, 11:13:26
Please at least add some sort of a hard board when shipping Plates. Thick cardboards are useless.
The ones used by Beast for the Poker plates are great.

I previously had a shipment of a single Phantom plate with just bubble wrap, the condition it arrived in was ridiculous, and the Phantom GB organizers had to ship me another one.

It will definitely add weight to the shipment, but who wants a damaged plate?

(http://i.imgur.com/ZOTFRHi.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/6AKXWnP.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ForestFunK on Sun, 26 May 2013, 12:31:20
Maybe the bubble wrap is not that good of an idea
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 26 May 2013, 12:35:34
I've folded cardboard around plates and it seems to be good in protecting them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 26 May 2013, 12:37:25
I've folded cardboard around plates and it seems to be good in protecting them.

i can vouch for this, the moose himself shipped me a plate internationally wrapped in cardboard and it arrived perfectly
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 26 May 2013, 12:44:53
Does it matter if switches are pcb or plate mounted if you are using a plate though?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: naokira on Sun, 26 May 2013, 12:46:37
Does it matter if switches are pcb or plate mounted if you are using a plate though?

You have to remove two pins if you want to use a pcb mount switch to a plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 26 May 2013, 12:46:46
Does it matter if switches are pcb or plate mounted if you are using a plate though?

It's not of great importance. Though some people prefer to use PCB mount with a plate if the PCB permits both.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 26 May 2013, 12:47:55
Does it matter if switches are pcb or plate mounted if you are using a plate though?

You have to remove two pins if you want to use a pcb mount switch to a plate.
Not with this PCB. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 26 May 2013, 12:49:54
Does it matter if switches are pcb or plate mounted if you are using a plate though?
Depends on the case. If you're using a plate from this groupbuy then you'd be best off using pcb since the plate isn't actually attached to anything. It's held in position by the switches. If you're using a user-designed case that comes with a custom plate that is screwed into the case then you won't need pcb mount switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: osxoep on Sun, 26 May 2013, 12:55:08
Does it matter if switches are pcb or plate mounted if you are using a plate though?

Nope. You can use either with a plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Sun, 26 May 2013, 13:09:49
Does it matter if switches are pcb or plate mounted if you are using a plate though?

Wasnt it so that universal plates require pcb mounted switches?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 26 May 2013, 13:15:35
Does it matter if switches are pcb or plate mounted if you are using a plate though?

Wasnt it so that universal plates require pcb mounted switches?

it is better to use them for the modifiers but you have to use pcb mount stabs with the uni plates.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: iAmAhab on Sun, 26 May 2013, 13:20:04
Here is hoping that my poker 2 with browns arrives before my invoice. Want to try browns out on a board before I commit to them.
The sample set from WASD did not really do much for me. I've only tried blacks, but I really enjoy them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Sun, 26 May 2013, 13:22:57
Does it matter if switches are pcb or plate mounted if you are using a plate though?

Wasnt it so that universal plates require pcb mounted switches?

it is better to use them for the modifiers but you have to use pcb mount stabs with the uni plates.

I stand corrected. It was also said that pcb mounted switches + plate make the structure very solid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Loligagger on Sun, 26 May 2013, 13:40:02
Invoice paid, thanks to everyone running this groupbuy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: aggiejy on Sun, 26 May 2013, 14:00:23
Regarding packing the plates... I recommend buying a roll or two of this:


http://www.amazon.com/office-products/dp/B004RX1ATQ


It's cheap, and delivery people *do* pay attention that those most of the time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Sun, 26 May 2013, 14:02:04
Is invoicing just though paypal? I still haven't received an invoice yet and I'm beginning to worry. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 26 May 2013, 14:02:35
Please at least add some sort of a hard board when shipping Plates. Thick cardboards are useless.

I previously had a shipment of a single Phantom plate with just bubble wrap, the condition it arrived in was ridiculous, and the Phantom GB organizers had to ship me another one.

(http://i.imgur.com/6AKXWnP.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/6AKXWnP.jpg)

This looks like the original black aluminum plates. Aluminum isn't as strong as stainless steel like the ones in this GB.

Btw, I received a prototype of the universal plate, pics will come soonish.




Does it matter if switches are pcb or plate mounted if you are using a plate though?
You have to remove two pins if you want to use a pcb mount switch to a plate.

That only applies to PCBs that do not have proper holes for the pins, but not in this case. It's not a huge deal, but I recommend using PCB-mounted switches. Those two plastic pins provide a rock-solid mount of the switches, even though there's already a plate. It might a few extra minutes to install PCB-mounted switches, but you're only building this once so might as well take the extra step.




Depends on the case. If you're using a plate from this groupbuy then you'd be best off using pcb since the plate isn't actually attached to anything. It's held in position by the switches. If you're using a user-designed case that comes with a custom plate that is screwed into the case then you won't need pcb mount switches.

No, it makes no difference. Use PCB-mounted switches either way. If you have a custom-designed case where the plate is mounted into the case, then it still must hold up the PCB, only attached by the switches. If you're using the original plastic poker case, the PCB is mounted onto the case, and the plate is still held up by at the switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 26 May 2013, 14:04:17
Btw, I received a prototype of the universal plate, pics will come soonish.

Can't wait to see!!!  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 26 May 2013, 14:37:30
Is invoicing just though paypal? I still haven't received an invoice yet and I'm beginning to worry. 

Check the spread sheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE#gid=0

You are all the way down in the middle of the list. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Leslieann on Sun, 26 May 2013, 16:16:09
I previously had a shipment of a single Phantom plate with just bubble wrap, the condition it arrived in was ridiculous, and the Phantom GB organizers had to ship me another one.
Mine was the same way, though not as bad. I have to do some serious work to straighten it out before I can use it (haven't had time).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 26 May 2013, 16:19:26
Prototype plate came bent like a banana. Beast's signature bent plate from his source, in comparison to a phantom plate I got made from a local company.

(http://i.imgur.com/KOrEuC9.jpg)



But nothing 5 minutes of unbending can't fix.

(http://i.imgur.com/xi3yJKv.jpg)



Mounted on a prototype GH60 PCB

(http://i.imgur.com/Oj9Odlh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/8oGenL2.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Sun, 26 May 2013, 16:42:26
Is invoicing just though paypal? I still haven't received an invoice yet and I'm beginning to worry. 

Check the spread sheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE#gid=0

You are all the way down in the middle of the list.

Thanks, I did not realize there is a section for invoicing on the spreadsheet. My apologies.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 26 May 2013, 16:47:27
The plate looks great!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 26 May 2013, 16:50:38
The plate looks great!

This^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 26 May 2013, 16:51:51
Are you going to bend each and every plate? :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 26 May 2013, 16:59:33
Are you going to bend each and every plate? :p

This is just a prototype plate that Beast help cut. But the final run will be from my own local company. The cut quality is better, and it's not bent, so ready to be soldered. I'd be crazy if I spent 5-10 min to unbend 550 plates before shipping. Refer to here for quality differences:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg900874#msg900874 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg900874#msg900874)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Sun, 26 May 2013, 17:02:58
 :eek:  INVOICING!

(w00t)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Nask on Sun, 26 May 2013, 17:06:32
Wallet is ready to pay :)
Title: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: fydo on Sun, 26 May 2013, 17:17:31
Earlier in the thread I think people were talking about automatically changing Plate-mount switch orders to PCB-mount. Is that still happening? If not, can you please change my switches to PCB-mount in my order? Thanks! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: kaiserreich on Sun, 26 May 2013, 18:31:22
@wfd,

They are indeed aluminum plated from the 1st GB.
Bending them back into shape did not work.

I sincerely hope the steel are strong enough.
That being said, my order is probably going into a box anyway. That should be good enough for me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 27 May 2013, 01:15:31
If I haven't been invoice yet, is it possible to change what plate I ordered?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 27 May 2013, 01:53:49
The plate does look awesome!

On another note, I see my order hasn't been updated - I don't mean to pester but I don't want it to still be wrong when I get my invoice through, thanks. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: zenuty on Mon, 27 May 2013, 02:17:35

WOW AWAESOME  :)) :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 27 May 2013, 02:25:41
Is invoicing just though paypal? I still haven't received an invoice yet and I'm beginning to worry. 

Check the spread sheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE#gid=0

You are all the way down in the middle of the list.

ALSO:
So all the invoices have not gone out correct?

Correct, I woke up to a water heater trying to flood my house so I've not had time to create/send more.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Mon, 27 May 2013, 05:38:12
With cherry pcb mounted stabs can you have the switch anywhere you want right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jmneuv on Mon, 27 May 2013, 06:21:51
pcb mounted is what you use with the universal plate, if that's what you were asking;
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Mon, 27 May 2013, 06:33:19
pcb mounted is what you use with the universal plate, if that's what you were asking;

I know, but the location of the spacebar switch, can it be altered as I please, so that the cherry g80 series 6x spacebars fit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: txepox on Mon, 27 May 2013, 07:08:59
Several weeks ago, I changed my order.

Looking at order confirmation form, my order is still highlighted. I am not sure what I am doing wrong . Can somebody help me?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Mon, 27 May 2013, 07:21:44
Several weeks ago, I changed my order.

Looking at order confirmation form, my order is still highlighted. I am not sure what I am doing wrong . Can somebody help me?

Doesn't look highlighted for me, but I guess you haven't specified whether you want pcb or plate mounted switches
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 27 May 2013, 07:28:27
^ Sorry, it looks like the cells shifted but the highlight was still there. Basically every column was off by one. Your order is correct. I went back to clear all highlights since I have to go back and retally all the stabs.


Any old highlights means that the stabilizers were not ordered correctly, or it doesn't match the plate. There are quite a few of these, so at this point I'm just going to use my best judgement to change incorrect stabilizer orders.

Again, here are stabilizer conditions:

- you must specify stab type (PCB-mounted cherry, plate-mounted cherry, or Costar), and spacebar wire size (6.25x or 7x)
- universal plate must use PCB-mounted cherry. They can use 6.25x or 7x spacebars wires
- any 1.5x plates must use 7x spacebar wires
- any 1.25x plates must use 6.25x spacebar wires
- costar stabs do not come in 7x wire size
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jmneuv on Mon, 27 May 2013, 08:33:44
I know, but the location of the spacebar switch, can it be altered as I please, so that the cherry g80 series 6x spacebars fit.
Now i understand, you probably mean the bump in the wire that goes around the switch.
I found this mashby photo on the internet: here the bump is very wide, so that should allow various switch positions.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mashby/8615184096/in/set-72157632855279271
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mm87 on Mon, 27 May 2013, 23:04:40
Got my invoice, but I think my shipping should be $11 (Czech Republic) instead of $21.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 28 May 2013, 00:02:33
Just got my invoice, but earlier today I removed switches from the order  advised by this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828904#msg828904), but they're still invoiced.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: cgbuen on Tue, 28 May 2013, 00:15:05
PM'd tjc about some order issues. Hope you can get around to looking it over soon!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 28 May 2013, 00:29:41
Just got my invoice, but earlier today I removed switches from the order  advised by this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828904#msg828904), but they're still invoiced.
That was fast, paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 28 May 2013, 00:32:03
PM'd tjc about some order issues. Hope you can get around to looking it over soon!

Just got my invoice, but earlier today I removed switches from the order  advised by this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828904#msg828904), but they're still invoiced.

Got my invoice, but I think my shipping should be $11 (Czech Republic) instead of $21.


Fixed and edited

I'm about 1/3rd the way through invoicing.  No clue on paid status.

Don't know how many invoices I'll get out tomorrow (will try on at least another 100) as I've got other work stuff to get caught up on.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mm87 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 00:52:23
Fixed and edited

Thanks, paid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: fydo on Tue, 28 May 2013, 00:56:23
Uh oh, I was just looking at the public spreadsheet and I noticed that my order is missing! Should I be concerned?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: n0rvig on Tue, 28 May 2013, 00:59:00
Should the invoice say the type of plate we ordered? Does it say GH60 plate for everyone else?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: vorn on Tue, 28 May 2013, 01:02:30
Please forgive me if this has been asked before, but will a shipping payment be dealt with at a later point? I don't see it included in the invoice.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: v4mp1 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 01:16:37
Row 265 is hide, that's me. Whats wrong?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Trueno86 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 01:31:20
Row 265 is hide, that's me. Whats wrong?

I'm hidden as well, is there a problem?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 28 May 2013, 01:32:44
Should the invoice say the type of plate we ordered? Does it say GH60 plate for everyone else?

All shows gh60 plate.  I am handling finances alone and all plates cost the same.  The organizer that will inevitably be in charge of plate ordering will be given a lump sum and an edited list to show what plates are needed.

Uh oh, I was just looking at the public spreadsheet and I noticed that my order is missing! Should I be concerned?

Found your order fine on my sheet.

Please forgive me if this has been asked before, but will a shipping payment be dealt with at a later point? I don't see it included in the invoice.

Inv resent

Row 265 is hide, that's me. Whats wrong?
Row 265 is hide, that's me. Whats wrong?

I'm hidden as well, is there a problem?


Nothing is hidden?  Are you talking about the resized columns?  That's so I can split screen and easily parse information by line.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: vorn on Tue, 28 May 2013, 01:41:24
Please forgive me if this has been asked before, but will a shipping payment be dealt with at a later point? I don't see it included in the invoice.

Inv resent

Thanks :) Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Trueno86 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 01:48:12
The row I was on was hidden, I refreshed and its back now!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: v4mp1 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 01:51:08
The row I was on was hidden, I refreshed and its back now!

Me not ;(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: plastboks on Tue, 28 May 2013, 01:53:17
Paid  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 28 May 2013, 05:01:25
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: JBert on Tue, 28 May 2013, 05:02:42
I hope the shipping tier changes are already changed in the list... Those details are not shown in the confirmation sheet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mr.bean on Tue, 28 May 2013, 05:48:49
Paid
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pexon on Tue, 28 May 2013, 05:53:28
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: j2c8w6f8 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 06:01:51
No response for my pm, haven't got the invoice..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ForestFunK on Tue, 28 May 2013, 06:13:51
Paid 8)

Thanks to the organisers!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jmneuv on Tue, 28 May 2013, 06:29:40
Do you guys need an extra pm for shipping choice or do you deduce from $ paid?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: badcop on Tue, 28 May 2013, 06:46:30
paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: osxoep on Tue, 28 May 2013, 08:18:22
ow my bank account.
paid :)

edit: hang on. My order was changed on the sheet.
I ordered 2 PCBs, 1 ISO 1.5x Pure Shift + PCB and Plate stabs and 65x MX greens.
But the order sheet says a "true" HHKB plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: whiskytango on Tue, 28 May 2013, 08:21:08
I'm scared of my invoice... :eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 28 May 2013, 08:31:04
I'm scared of my invoice... :eek:
I know that feeling.  Just bought more keycaps too...  Fortunately I won't be buying anything else until imsto aluminum case gb comes back.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: whiskytango on Tue, 28 May 2013, 08:37:02
I'm scared of my invoice... :eek:
I know that feeling.  Just bought more keycaps too...  Fortunately I won't be buying anything else until imsto aluminum case gb comes back.

Well, since I couldn't make up my mind which GH60 layout I wanted, I think I ordered 5. I'm sure I won't keep them all though. And I did get a DIY kit to test my skill
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 28 May 2013, 08:39:05
I'm scared of my invoice... :eek:
I know that feeling.  Just bought more keycaps too...  Fortunately I won't be buying anything else until imsto aluminum case gb comes back.

Well, since I couldn't make up my mind which GH60 layout I wanted, I think I ordered 5. I'm sure I won't keep them all though. And I did get a DIY kit to test my skill
LOL

Where can I get ahold of some LEDs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 08:41:41
I suggest these (http://stores.ebay.com/IC-Touch-Store/2x3x4-Rectangle-LEDs-/_i.html?_fsub=4091520013&_sid=1028435323&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322) LEDs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 28 May 2013, 08:43:31
I suggest these (http://stores.ebay.com/IC-Touch-Store/2x3x4-Rectangle-LEDs-/_i.html?_fsub=4091520013&_sid=1028435323&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322) LEDs.
No purple :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: regack on Tue, 28 May 2013, 08:52:35
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 28 May 2013, 08:55:23
I'm scared of my invoice... :eek:
Same here...  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 May 2013, 08:57:27
I'm scared of my invoice... :eek:
I know that feeling.  Just bought more keycaps too...  Fortunately I won't be buying anything else until imsto aluminum case gb comes back.

Well, since I couldn't make up my mind which GH60 layout I wanted, I think I ordered 5. I'm sure I won't keep them all though. And I did get a DIY kit to test my skill

So now I know to pay attention to your FS threads in the future :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 08:57:49
I suggest these (http://stores.ebay.com/IC-Touch-Store/2x3x4-Rectangle-LEDs-/_i.html?_fsub=4091520013&_sid=1028435323&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322) LEDs.
No purple :(

These (http://www.ebay.com/itm/350794789236) aren't the 2x3x4 rectangle LEDs, but the color is good. I've used them before.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: fruktstund on Tue, 28 May 2013, 09:26:13
Will orders to European countries be sent from the US or from komar in Poland? Just thinking $21 seems a bit much if it's the latter, but I'm not too familiar with Polish shipping prices either... :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 09:36:07
From me. You can change it to $5 or $10 depending on how much you ordered (your order will most probably fit in $5 option).
Lower shipping cost means no tracking though!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Winther on Tue, 28 May 2013, 10:25:11
From me. You can change it to $5 or $10 depending on how much you ordered (your order will most probably fit in $5 option).
Lower shipping cost means no tracking though!

I would like to change my shipping too, but how do I do that? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: duq on Tue, 28 May 2013, 11:18:46
PAID. Thanks again to all involved.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 28 May 2013, 13:27:57
and.... PAID! 180ish is a little more than i thought but then again i got a bunch of **** so this is fair. 

i am so psyched. now i just need caps and a few badass aluminum cases. so i have a ton more cash to throw at whoever wants to start a spherical retro/round 3 dolch group buy and even more cash for cases. i would love to get a low profile and a imsto case.

TJ, JD, and Komar thank you so much for all of this. you have made me excited for months as i plan to build this. i am grateful.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:20:14
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: fruktstund on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:23:59
From me. You can change it to $5 or $10 depending on how much you ordered (your order will most probably fit in $5 option).
Lower shipping cost means no tracking though!

I would like to change my shipping too, but how do I do that? :)
Yup, wondering the same thing! $10 for tracked shipping sounds like music to my ears, but I haven't the slightest about how one'd go about to change his invoice. :>
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: boost on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:27:50
submitted order change :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:38:26
also changed my order, but it should not change the invoice.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jmneuv on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:42:25
If you can ship plate/pcb/stabs (with package i'm estimating 500g) in a box with tracking for less than 21$ (europe) i'll gladly donate the difference to the project organizers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Muffet on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:45:05
Exciting things are happening!

Paid.

Contemplating if I want to deal with LEDs considering I don't have keys for backlighting.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:47:35
Exciting things are happening!

Paid.

Contemplating if I want to deal with LEDs considering I don't have keys for backlighting.
Wait, what keys besides caps can have leds?!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:50:00
Exciting things are happening!

Paid.

Contemplating if I want to deal with LEDs considering I don't have keys for backlighting.
Wait, what keys besides caps can have leds?!

I'm pretty sure the same seven as Poker X + WASD
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:52:09
To anyone with knowledge of the PCB,

is this layout (http://ne0.cc/laygen/#ESC%7E%3A%3A1%20%20%211%3A%3A1%20%20@2%3A%3A1%20%20%233%3A%3A1%20%20%244%3A%3A1%20%20%255%3A%3A1%20%20%5E6%3A%3A1%20%20%267%3A%3A1%20%20*8%3A%3A1%20%20%289%3A%3A1%20%20%290%3A%3A1%20%20-_%3A%3A1%20%20+%3D%3A%3A1%20%20back%3A%3A1%20%20del%3A%3A1%24%24%0ATab%3A%3A1.5%20%20q%3A%3A1%20%20w%3A%3A1%20%20e%3A%3A1%20%20r%3A%3A1%20%20t%3A%3A1%20%20%20y%3A%3A1%20%20%20u%3A%3A1%20%20i%3A%3A1%20%20o%3A%3A1%20%20p%3A%3A1%20%20%5B%7B%3A%3A1%20%20%5D%7D%3A%3A1%20%20%5C%7C%3A%3A1.5%24%24%0ACapslock%3A%3A1.75%20%20a%3A%3A1%20%20s%3A%3A1%20%20d%3A%3A1%20%20f%3A%3A1%20%20g%3A%3A1%20%20h%3A%3A1%20%20j%3A%3A1%20%20%20k%3A%3A1%20%20%20l%3A%3A1%20%20%20%3A%3B%3A%3A1%20%20%27%22%3A%3A1%20%20%20Enter%3A%3A1.25%20%20Scrlk%20locking%3A%3A1%24%24%0AShiftLock%3A%3A1%20%20Shift%3A%3A1.25%20%20%20z%3A%3A1%20%20%20x%3A%3A1%20%20%20c%3A%3A1%20%20%20v%3A%3A1%20%20%20b%3A%3A1%20%20n%3A%3A1%20%20m%3A%3A1%20%20%3C%2C%3A%3A1%20%20%20%3E.%3A%3A1%20%20%20%3F/%3A%3A1%20%20Shift%3A%3A1.75%20%20ShiftLock%3A%3A1%20%24%24%0ACtrl%3A%3A1.25%20%20ALT%3A%3A1.25%20%20Scrlk%3A%3A1.25%20%20Space%3A%3A6.25%20%20FN%3A%3A1.25%20%20Win%3A%3A1.25%20%20%20Alt%3A%3A1.25%20%20Ctrl%3A%3A1.25%24%24) possible with the current PCB/universal ansi plates?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:53:59
That layout is possible. That would be the Max Keys plate, though the Left shift and the key next to it would be switched around. Or you could just do it without a plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:11:39
Are the switches plate mounted/PCB mounted by default if you never specify which?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:19:03
Are the switches plate mounted/PCB mounted by default if you never specify which?

There is no default.  The prices are the same and I'm simply handing a bulk of money over to the person that is actually going to order them
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: n0rvig on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:19:49
All shows gh60 plate.  I am handling finances alone and all plates cost the same.  The or

Awesome. Thanks & Paid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:21:34
Switches bought through this GB will ALL be PCB mount (MX1A-xxxx/NW). Even if you specified plate mount, you're getting PCB mount switches, as we stated long ago this would be the default and only option.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:24:52
I thought they were pcb mounted but pate supported. If that makes any sense.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:26:56
PCB mount or plate mount are just colloquial names assigned to the fact that one has mounting pins and the other does not. All switches from this GB will be PCB mount switches.

If you're discussing the actual mounting of them, the PCB supports the mounting pins, and plates support either/or. I think it's important for the switches here to be PCB mount, seeing as the PCB supports it, and because not everyone is going to use a plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:29:32
I thought they were pcb mounted but pate supported. If that makes any sense.

All MX switches mount to a plate with no issues. These have the two plastic pins for PCB mounting on supported PCBs (of which the GH60 PCB is one). If you want to mount these PCB-mount switches on a PCB that doesn't have the proper holes for the plastic pins, you just snip off the plastic pins and proceed. Plate or no plate, you can use these switches with the GH60 PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Muffet on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:52:04
Contemplating if I want to deal with LEDs considering I don't have keys for backlighting.
Wait, what keys besides caps can have leds?!
[/quote]

Woopsie! I meant caps, not keys, silly me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Leslieann on Tue, 28 May 2013, 16:52:55
I thought they were pcb mounted but pate supported. If that makes any sense.
All are plate supported.
The only difference is extra pcb supports on the pcb ones.

If a board has the holes, you are better off using them, if it does not, you can always grind them off.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: osxoep on Tue, 28 May 2013, 17:00:18
ow my bank account.
paid :)

edit: hang on. My order was changed on the sheet.
I ordered 2 PCBs, 1 ISO 1.5x Pure Shift + PCB and Plate stabs and 65x MX greens.
But the order sheet says a "true" HHKB plate.

tjcaustin could you have a look at this?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 28 May 2013, 17:19:18
Paid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:11:40
That layout is possible. That would be the Max Keys plate, though the Left shift and the key next to it would be switched around. Or you could just do it without a plate.

I thought the Universal ANSI plate could do all the layouts including the max keys layout?
My main concern was the pcb switch positions. Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 28 May 2013, 18:22:48
That layout is possible. That would be the Max Keys plate, though the Left shift and the key next to it would be switched around. Or you could just do it without a plate.

I thought the Universal ANSI plate could do all the layouts including the max keys layout?
My main concern was the pcb switch positions. Thanks!

if i see it correctly your enter and scroll lock don't work out. the 1u would be on the left and the  1.25 on the right
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 28 May 2013, 20:29:28
WOW that invoice.  Whew.  Will pay shortly.

EDIT:  I also ordered assembly, I don't see that on my invoice?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 20:42:03
I meant to include the plate mounted stabilizer set. I can't tell if it was included. I don't think it was and I was already invoiced.

I'm petty sure that's the only thing I'm missing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Trueno86 on Tue, 28 May 2013, 21:05:50
Paid!  Thanks for all the hard work!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mkaito on Wed, 29 May 2013, 00:22:23
Just received the invoice. It's due immediately? I'll need 2-5 days to move money around before I can send payment. I'm a couple dollars short on my Paypal balance.

Thank you for your hard work!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: 4LI4Z on Wed, 29 May 2013, 04:05:58
Where are we supposed to get that invoice, via email or on geekhack?
Because I haven't got anything by now and the list says I'm invoiced.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: zoidbergslo on Wed, 29 May 2013, 05:53:42
check your paypal account
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 29 May 2013, 06:30:46
I've found in the past that I've had invoices to pay in my paypal account that I hadn't been notified about any other way...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: 4LI4Z on Wed, 29 May 2013, 10:57:52
Alright, thank you. Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 29 May 2013, 11:13:30
This is my pending layout, was going to go for a hhkb style but I really do need the arrow keys and I don't want them on a fn layer... Suggestions open, I'll post the firmware whenever I have my board and it is working if people want it.

http://imgur.com/XOc822j
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: simkev on Wed, 29 May 2013, 11:58:54
paid
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 29 May 2013, 12:06:20
Can I add more to my order if I already paid?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 13:22:23
Can I add more to my order if I already paid?

Pretty sure we're firm on if you're paid already, your order is locked. But I sent you a PM and copied TJ, who is doing the invoicing.

Sorry for not replying earlier, I've been out of the office all morning on the road.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: polarpigs on Wed, 29 May 2013, 14:48:31
Hi! My invoice had shipping (international price) added to it but I really dont know where I'll be by the time this ships (will be in California if it's September.) This caused my order to be 150.37 :/ Can I, instead, have a shipping invoice resent for when the board is ready to ship to me or when a shipping time is confirmed? Because I really don't want to pay extra if i'm going to be in the USA by the time this ships :/
Thanks~
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 May 2013, 14:52:25
Hi! My invoice had shipping (international price) added to it but I really dont know where I'll be by the time this ships (will be in California if it's September.) This caused my order to be 150.37 :/ Can I, instead, have a shipping invoice resent for when the board is ready to ship to me or when a shipping time is confirmed? Because I really don't want to pay extra if i'm going to be in the USA by the time this ships :/
Thanks~

Sent you a PM.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: reality404 on Wed, 29 May 2013, 17:58:30
Paid thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: osxoep on Wed, 29 May 2013, 18:15:02
edit: hang on. My order was changed on the sheet.
I ordered 2 PCBs, 1 ISO 1.5x Pure Shift + PCB and Plate stabs and 65x MX greens.
But the order sheet says a "true" HHKB plate.

Just wondering about this
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tradet on Thu, 30 May 2013, 03:34:39
Paid!

Now there's only a few months of waiting left!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:51:58
My bank worked fast for once, so money moved early. Just paid the invoice. Thanks for your work!

ETA is still at some point between July and September?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: aggiejy on Thu, 30 May 2013, 10:14:16
It's been a couple days since I paid... still cringing when I hear footsteps as I'm pretty sure my wife is going to sneak up behind me with a Model M...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 30 May 2013, 11:00:35
It's been a couple days since I paid... still cringing when I hear footsteps as I'm pretty sure my wife is going to sneak up behind me with a Model M...

that is why I sold all my kbt race's
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 30 May 2013, 13:33:17
It's been a couple days since I paid... still cringing when I hear footsteps as I'm pretty sure my wife is going to sneak up behind me with a Model M...
I haven't got mine yet, but I fear the wife seeing it... Glad my Filco case is plastic.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 30 May 2013, 15:43:38
It's been a couple days since I paid... still cringing when I hear footsteps as I'm pretty sure my wife is going to sneak up behind me with a Model M...

i lol'd because my wife doesn't know yet that i got these and i'm sure she wouldn't be happy if she found out!

---

honestly the bill wasn't that bad, i didn't register in how expensive the cherry stabs would be until i got the bill but when you take those out this was a damn good deal for how much i got. 

bravo to the GH60 team and good luck!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Laladila on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:10:45
Mmm I didn't receive my invoice can you check please ?

TIA
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:13:09
Mmm I didn't receive my invoice can you check please ?

TIA

Not all the invoices are sent yet, the order confirmation sheet has invoicing column but can't tell if it's in realtime
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Laladila on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:15:40
Oups I missed that info thanks for the info I'm gonnna check the Confirmation list
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 30 May 2013, 18:03:22
That layout is possible. That would be the Max Keys plate, though the Left shift and the key next to it would be switched around. Or you could just do it without a plate.

I thought the Universal ANSI plate could do all the layouts including the max keys layout?
My main concern was the pcb switch positions. Thanks!

if i see it correctly your enter and scroll lock don't work out. the 1u would be on the left and the  1.25 on the right

Thanks! I will probably go with the gh60 max keys layout with the mx locks until I can determine if the layout works for me.
I am a die-hard counterstrike player. (since 1.3!) this is for cs + voice chat. the toggles are for voice toggle basically.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: beauthegamer on Fri, 31 May 2013, 01:34:26
Paid. Anticipation rising!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 31 May 2013, 01:41:53
done and done
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: battletux on Fri, 31 May 2013, 01:42:33
Paid!  :p

Can't wait for the bits to get here. Now to source a case and keys for them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 31 May 2013, 02:24:06
Just got my invoice and paid it.

One question though:

I ordered 2 different plates and chose 1x assembly service. I wrote in the order form which of the two I want to have assembled, but this information doesn't show in the confirmation spread sheet anymore.

How does the assembly guy know which switches to solder on which PCB/plate combo?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Dsan on Fri, 31 May 2013, 02:39:33
Paid,thank you! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 31 May 2013, 02:42:00
Just got my invoice and paid it.

One question though:

I ordered 2 different plates and chose 1x assembly service. I wrote in the order form which of the two I want to have assembled, but this information doesn't show in the confirmation spread sheet anymore.

How does the assembly guy know which switches to solder on which PCB/plate combo?

This:

I want 1 board with these specifications assembled by you guys:

1x GH60 PCB
1x ISO 1,25 Plate
1x Costar stabs, Plate-mounted

+ white Cherry MX switches ordered via 7Bit on Deskthority.net

The rest of my order is for me to build a second board:

1x GH 60
1x ISO universal plate
1x Costar stabs, Plate-mounted
1x PCB mounted cherry stabs (spacebar 6,25)

is still in the comments.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Tranquilite on Fri, 31 May 2013, 02:46:34
Paid. I was secretly hoping the shipping cost would be cheaper because I only purchased a PCB, but them's the breaks. At least i can rest assured that mine will most likely ship sooner because I didn't order any plates/extras.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 31 May 2013, 02:51:08
Just got my invoice and paid it.

One question though:

I ordered 2 different plates and chose 1x assembly service. I wrote in the order form which of the two I want to have assembled, but this information doesn't show in the confirmation spread sheet anymore.

How does the assembly guy know which switches to solder on which PCB/plate combo?

This:

I want 1 board with these specifications assembled by you guys:

1x GH60 PCB
1x ISO 1,25 Plate
1x Costar stabs, Plate-mounted

+ white Cherry MX switches ordered via 7Bit on Deskthority.net

The rest of my order is for me to build a second board:

1x GH 60
1x ISO universal plate
1x Costar stabs, Plate-mounted
1x PCB mounted cherry stabs (spacebar 6,25)

is still in the comments.

Good, this is still in there :)

Thanks for replying so fast!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: bugsaint on Fri, 31 May 2013, 03:07:00
Invoice recieved, however my shipping costs are $21?  Isn't my board being assembled and shipped within the EU from komar?  Switches were ordered from 7bit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Kmynis on Fri, 31 May 2013, 03:31:00
Already paid. Really excited about this little adventure
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pasph on Fri, 31 May 2013, 03:39:17
Paid
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: cyberwave on Fri, 31 May 2013, 03:41:27
wow! shipping for this little monster costs a bomb! :eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 31 May 2013, 03:53:10
Just received my invoice, thanks.  Can I double (triple) check that where it says 'GH60 plate' that is in fact an ANSI Universal plate?  Once that's confirmed I'll pay straight away - thanks.

George
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: bugsaint on Fri, 31 May 2013, 04:25:00
PAID

Invoice recieved, however my shipping costs are $21?  Isn't my board being assembled and shipped within the EU from komar?  Switches were ordered from 7bit.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 31 May 2013, 06:11:51
I just got an invoice... But I didn't order anything
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 31 May 2013, 06:33:20
Paid!  I'm sure my question above will be sorted :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: limmy on Fri, 31 May 2013, 06:52:01
I got the invoice. I put down a Korean address and I was asked to pay $28 for the shipping. I was expecting much less reading the following post on shipping. Was the post relevant for EU countries only?

Shipping to EU will be from EU, most probably from me. Depending on the country and availability of tracking it will be between $8 and $18 (assuming < 1kg per package)

May I ask what has changed since and from where my package is sent? I do not see any information on shipping in the OP. I understand there is a lot of uncertainty, but I would appreciate any information, at least information you used to come up with the current quote. Thank you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Lumune on Fri, 31 May 2013, 07:15:20
Number of Cherry Stabilizers on the invoice not matching that on the spreadsheet, replied to the invoice email to T.J.
p.s. OMG... $32 to ship to Australia
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: agor on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:01:12
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: boost on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:06:55
Wfd,

I put in for a order change but got an invoice for my old order
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Kabuks on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:48:36
I got my invoice but haven't paid yet and I'm wondering if its possible to add an extra PCB (SMD presoldered) to my order?
If so let me know who to PM.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Acanthophis on Fri, 31 May 2013, 08:54:00
Did all invoices get out already?
Never received one so far...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: HannibalChew on Fri, 31 May 2013, 09:05:53
I haven't got an invoice yet, have they all gone out?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: thoere on Fri, 31 May 2013, 09:08:50
I got my invoice, but it says payment due... yesterday. Can I still pay the invoice? If so, when should I pay by?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Fri, 31 May 2013, 09:15:27
I got my invoice, but it says payment due... yesterday. Can I still pay the invoice? If so, when should I pay by?
Dont worry u have time. I dont think theres an exact date but u have plenty of time. Alot of invoices havnt gone out yet:P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:37:38
Paid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Paranoid on Fri, 31 May 2013, 10:54:28
I haven't got an invoice yet, have they all gone out?

Did all invoices get out already?
Never received one so far...

Check the Order Confirmation link in the OP. You can check if you've been invoiced and if the payment is processed
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: miscsubbin on Fri, 31 May 2013, 12:23:55
Paid! So excited!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Fri, 31 May 2013, 12:25:45
Invoice paid. Can't wait!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: cyberwave on Fri, 31 May 2013, 14:42:54
I submitted a change. (dam my fickle mind!  :-[)

Could one of you confirm that change before i pay the invoice?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Acanthophis on Fri, 31 May 2013, 16:07:29
Check the Order Confirmation link in the OP. You can check if you've been invoiced and if the payment is processed
Ah, didn't notice there is a column for that.
Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Lumune on Fri, 31 May 2013, 19:15:02
Got the updated invoice, paid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 31 May 2013, 19:34:30
Got mah invoice!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gameaholic on Fri, 31 May 2013, 22:05:49
paid
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: cgbuen on Sat, 01 June 2013, 02:12:16
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: iMav on Sat, 01 June 2013, 07:16:17
PAID!

Just looked at the spreadsheet and see there is a "TRUE HHKB layout plate".  I want to emulate the HHKB layout as much as possible (as it is my absolute favorite layout).  I assume I want these plates instead of the ANSI ones??

Can my order be modified? 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Kabuks on Sat, 01 June 2013, 14:01:51
Paid invoice. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: spdx on Sat, 01 June 2013, 16:25:38
Paid. Thanks for all the efforts to make this happen.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 01 June 2013, 16:48:11
Paid revised invoice.  Thanks very much!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 01 June 2013, 18:46:44
PAID!

Just looked at the spreadsheet and see there is a "TRUE HHKB layout plate".  I want to emulate the HHKB layout as much as possible (as it is my absolute favorite layout).  I assume I want these plates instead of the ANSI ones??

Can my order be modified? 

I don't think that would be a problem. Just PM WFD with that info, since he will be ordering the plates.
Title: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: fydo on Sat, 01 June 2013, 18:57:33
Awesome! Just got my invoice and paid! Super excited about GH60, and looking forward to when the GH10 (or whatever you're calling it now) GB starts. :)

EDIT: TJ, I just noticed the wrong plate is on my invoice. Should be a Poker plate. Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: HannibalChew on Sat, 01 June 2013, 18:58:24
Just paid my invoice! It didn't seem to indicate anywhere that it included shipping, is this normal?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Sat, 01 June 2013, 19:06:30
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 01 June 2013, 19:11:56
Paid, but please don't ship my order until speaking with me first :)

EDIT: TJ, I just noticed the wrong plate is on my invoice. Should be a Poker plate. Thanks!

Both of mine (Poker & Ansi Universal) just said GH60 Plate
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 01 June 2013, 19:23:40
Just paid my invoice! It didn't seem to indicate anywhere that it included shipping, is this normal?

I see $5 for basic shipping, sir.

And for those that may have missed, I have no need to individually list plate skus as I'm not having anything to do with the actual ordering, just fund collection.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: HannibalChew on Sat, 01 June 2013, 19:26:18

I see $5 for basic shipping, sir.

And for those that may have missed, I have no need to individually list plate skus as I'm not having anything to do with the actual ordering, just fund collection.

ah ha! I must have missed that. :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: electrogeek007 on Sat, 01 June 2013, 20:34:27
Paid!  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: whiteduck on Sat, 01 June 2013, 20:51:33
Paid!  Don't know what I'm going to do about switches tho....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: salmo on Sat, 01 June 2013, 20:59:39
And paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: fydo on Sat, 01 June 2013, 21:58:36
And for those that may have missed, I have no need to individually list plate skus...

Oops, I had missed that! Thanks for the heads up! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: bear95 on Sat, 01 June 2013, 23:14:26
PAID

but I realized I payed with wrong paypal shipping address but the address I submitted to geekhack is correct. This should not mess things up, right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: orlando on Sun, 02 June 2013, 00:41:56
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 02 June 2013, 01:11:05
All invoices sent out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Sai on Sun, 02 June 2013, 01:12:55
Paid
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Paranoid on Sun, 02 June 2013, 02:37:33
Hey tjcaustin,

I actually made a little order change yesterday for updating the amount of stabilizers, but I guess it hasn't been updated in the invoice yet. Is it still possible to change it from one to three cherry plate mounted stabilizers? (two 7x, one 6.25x)

Other than that, I'm completely ready to pay ^^

*Aaaand paid! Thanks for the quick fix :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 02 June 2013, 03:03:14
Paid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: cyberwave on Sun, 02 June 2013, 03:42:45
I submitted a change. (dam my fickle mind!  :-[)

Could one of you confirm that change before i pay the invoice?

anyone? :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: kdash4 on Sun, 02 June 2013, 03:59:13
Just got my invoice.
Wow I didn't expect this much. lol
I will pay tomorrow.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 02 June 2013, 04:05:03
I submitted a change. (dam my fickle mind!  :-[)

Could one of you confirm that change before i pay the invoice?

anyone? :(
Check the Order Confirmation (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Sun, 02 June 2013, 04:27:33
I have made payment. God speed you and your soldering irons.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: cyberwave on Sun, 02 June 2013, 04:29:12
I submitted a change. (dam my fickle mind!  :-[)

Could one of you confirm that change before i pay the invoice?

anyone? :(
Check the Order Confirmation (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing).

it hasn't been changed yet that's why
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: 4814 on Sun, 02 June 2013, 05:12:14
Paid. Thank you for this great group buy! :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Sun, 02 June 2013, 05:22:22
paid
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: txepox on Sun, 02 June 2013, 05:27:07
Paid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 02 June 2013, 07:02:05
Paid. Thanks to everyone running this and everyone who helped in designing the PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: modulor on Sun, 02 June 2013, 09:29:09
Just received my invoice, and everything looks good except that it reflects I requested Cherry Stablizers instead of what I put in my original request, which was Costar Stabilizer with 7" spacebar wire.  Should I just put that in the payment notes, or do I need an updated invoice?  Thanks :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Aranair on Sun, 02 June 2013, 09:47:46
paid, godspeed :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Atakp on Sun, 02 June 2013, 09:53:02

Just received my invoice, and everything looks good except that it reflects I requested Cherry Stablizers instead of what I put in my original request, which was Costar Stabilizer with 7" spacebar wire.  Should I just put that in the payment notes, or do I need an updated invoice?  Thanks :D

Costar stabs don't come in 7" wire size. If you need a 7" wire I think cherry is your only option
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: cyberwave on Sun, 02 June 2013, 10:24:48
Paid. I'll shoot WFD a PM regarding the plate i guess  :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: modulor on Sun, 02 June 2013, 10:44:04

Just received my invoice, and everything looks good except that it reflects I requested Cherry Stablizers instead of what I put in my original request, which was Costar Stabilizer with 7" spacebar wire.  Should I just put that in the payment notes, or do I need an updated invoice?  Thanks :D

Costar stabs don't come in 7" wire size. If you need a 7" wire I think cherry is your only option

Ah, well...I could make my own wire if that's the case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: funkymeeba on Sun, 02 June 2013, 10:46:47
I paid a couple of days ago. Please note the comment I left through Paypal, though. Who do I need to update when I have my new address ready?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: agor on Sun, 02 June 2013, 12:01:58
but I realized I payed with wrong paypal shipping address but the address I submitted to geekhack is correct. This should not mess things up, right?

Reading this I looked up my Paypal Address and realized I'm having the same problem. You are using the GeekHack address, right? Confirmation of address before you post things would be awesome, too, I guess.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sun, 02 June 2013, 12:13:38
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: durandalx on Sun, 02 June 2013, 12:39:33
Paid!

@tjcaustin - I sent an order change + PM a couple weeks ago and never got a confirmation.  I wanted to swap my red switches for greens on my order - but I can live with it if switch orders have been placed.  Thanks again!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 02 June 2013, 13:36:48
but I realized I payed with wrong paypal shipping address but the address I submitted to geekhack is correct. This should not mess things up, right?

Reading this I looked up my Paypal Address and realized I'm having the same problem. You are using the GeekHack address, right? Confirmation of address before you post things would be awesome, too, I guess.

Since I'm shipping nothing and I'm the only one that sees anything paypal related, no, we're not using the address tied to paypal, it's the one you put on the google doc to join the buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 02 June 2013, 13:45:40
invoiced and paid :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gimpster on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:10:35
Paid up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jabar on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:32:39
I'm considering dropping out. I just got a FC660C and I'm not sure whether I can really afford to dump much more into keybs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: agor on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:59:40
but I realized I payed with wrong paypal shipping address but the address I submitted to geekhack is correct. This should not mess things up, right?

Reading this I looked up my Paypal Address and realized I'm having the same problem. You are using the GeekHack address, right? Confirmation of address before you post things would be awesome, too, I guess.

Since I'm shipping nothing and I'm the only one that sees anything paypal related, no, we're not using the address tied to paypal, it's the one you put on the google doc to join the buy.

Thank you for clarifying :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 02 June 2013, 16:45:08
I'm considering dropping out. I just got a FC660C and I'm not sure whether I can really afford to dump much more into keybs.

For every texan that drops out, that's one more charge of murder from the state DA
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 02 June 2013, 16:49:48
UPDATE

For those people who ordered switches that we have to source from 7bit rather than from our supplier (specifically MX Clear, MX (light) Grey, MX White, MX Lock), you should expect a supplemental invoice soon for the price difference between the GB switch price and 7bit's preorder price, plus a share of the shipping cost. Basically, we will be charging you the same price as if you ordered from 7bit individually, since that is what we will be paying for them.

The price difference for those switches is only $0.08/per switch, with shipping at $5.20 per order. Most people who ordered those switches should see a supplemental invoice for about $10 or so for the difference.

If you want to change your switch order to one of the switch types offered by our GB (specifically MX Red, MX Brown, MX Blue, MX Black, MX Green, or MX Dark Grey), just send me a PM, and you won't be billed any extra.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: 7bit on Sun, 02 June 2013, 17:03:18
Should I send the switches directly?
In that case I really need the 4 EUR ($5.20) for shipping.

But if I ship them to komar or to you, as I told you before, shipping is free.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 02 June 2013, 17:26:27
Should I send the switches directly?
In that case I really need the 4 EUR ($5.20) for shipping.

But if I ship them to komar or to you, as I told you before, shipping is free.



Oh, okay. I didn't remember that, but that makes it even better. So then just the $0.08/per switch is the only difference to be invoiced.

Thanks for clarifying, 7bit!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:10:23
I'm considering dropping out. I just got a FC660C and I'm not sure whether I can really afford to dump much more into keybs.

I might want to pick this one up if thats possible?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Acanthophis on Sun, 02 June 2013, 20:46:06
Changed my order :/
Please resend invoice, thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: terminal_geek on Sun, 02 June 2013, 23:36:05
Just updated my Order. Sorry for the late change when you have so much going on. Please update and resend invoice when you have a spare moment.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 02 June 2013, 23:39:50
I see no updates on the form or in my PM box.

All switch errata for those getting switches from 7bit are finished.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: agor on Mon, 03 June 2013, 03:49:45
Paid Switch Errata ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Neal on Mon, 03 June 2013, 04:57:00
Paid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 03 June 2013, 05:05:40
Will the value be declared as something low by default? If not, can I request that mine is declared as around $10. I simply cannot afford to pay customs at the moment.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pasph on Mon, 03 June 2013, 05:09:33
Will the value be declared as something low by default? If not, can I request that mine is declared as around $10. I simply cannot afford to pay customs at the moment.

Isn't the EU orders shipped from komar007 (Poland)?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Mon, 03 June 2013, 05:24:36
Will the value be declared as something low by default? If not, can I request that mine is declared as around $10. I simply cannot afford to pay customs at the moment.

Isn't the EU orders shipped from komar007 (Poland)?

That's what I'm thinking, no tariff inside of eu right?

edit oh uk
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Kmynis on Mon, 03 June 2013, 05:36:26
I just received another invoice with $5.5 which is for switch errata. Can anyone explain me what is this?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 03 June 2013, 05:38:19
I just received another invoice with $5.5 which is for switch errata. Can anyone explain me what is this?

My best guess is that tjcaustin (who did the invoicing) wasn't aware/was told by others that Mx Lock switches are more than $0.63 a switch.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Kmynis on Mon, 03 June 2013, 05:42:15
Well, I ordered only clears and I already paid for them in my first invoice. Maybe the price just increased for them since it is "Switches Errata    63   $0,08   $5,04"
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 03 June 2013, 05:45:11
Well, I ordered only clears and I already paid for them in my first invoice. Maybe the price just increased for them since it is "Switches Errata    63   $0,08   $5,04"

UPDATE

For those people who ordered switches that we have to source from 7bit rather than from our supplier (specifically MX Clear, MX (light) Grey, MX White, MX Lock), you should expect a supplemental invoice soon for the price difference between the GB switch price and 7bit's preorder price, plus a share of the shipping cost. Basically, we will be charging you the same price as if you ordered from 7bit individually, since that is what we will be paying for them.

The price difference for those switches is only $0.08/per switch, with shipping at $5.20 per order. Most people who ordered those switches should see a supplemental invoice for about $10 or so for the difference.

If you want to change your switch order to one of the switch types offered by our GB (specifically MX Red, MX Brown, MX Blue, MX Black, MX Green, or MX Dark Grey), just send me a PM, and you won't be billed any extra.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mickd on Mon, 03 June 2013, 06:00:21
Ouch this thing really adds up in the end! Nevertheless, paid, and thanks so much everyone that helped make this happen.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Laladila on Mon, 03 June 2013, 06:01:08
Paid
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: limmy on Mon, 03 June 2013, 06:10:08
I got the invoice. I put down a Korean address and I was asked to pay $28 for the shipping. I was expecting much less reading the following post on shipping. Was the post relevant for EU countries only?

Shipping to EU will be from EU, most probably from me. Depending on the country and availability of tracking it will be between $8 and $18 (assuming < 1kg per package)

May I ask what has changed since and from where my package is sent? I do not see any information on shipping in the OP. I understand there is a lot of uncertainty, but I would appreciate any information, at least information you used to come up with the current quote. Thank you.

Can anyone answer my question? It is my first time receiving package in Korea and I wonder if $28 is the norm for shipping. Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Paranoid on Mon, 03 June 2013, 06:47:13
Just wondering if the changed/updated orders are being listed in the Order Confirmation or in another/private file? I guess some people, including me, have updated or changed something while it's not updated in the list while it says it's paid. This is not a comment at all, I can understand it's a ****load of work, but just wondering if these things are noted somewhere.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mashby on Mon, 03 June 2013, 09:31:07
Supplemental switches invoice paid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: HannibalChew on Mon, 03 June 2013, 09:41:46
What's happening with the switches pre-ordered from 7bit on DT? Will they be shipped with my GH60 or separately?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 03 June 2013, 10:25:20
What's happening with the switches pre-ordered from 7bit on DT? Will they be shipped with my GH60 or separately?

The plan is to hold your order until everything is received, and your order is complete and ready to ship. Unless you want to make other arrangements, anyway.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: badcop on Mon, 03 June 2013, 10:41:49
DONT HIT ME
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2007/10/millhouse.jpg)

is it too late to add 2 sets of pcb cherry stabs to my order?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 03 June 2013, 10:42:09
What's happening with the switches pre-ordered from 7bit on DT? Will they be shipped with my GH60 or separately?

The plan is to hold your order until everything is received, and your order is complete and ready to ship. Unless you want to make other arrangements, anyway.

What if we only have PCB ordered? Would those still be held up by switches?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: HannibalChew on Mon, 03 June 2013, 10:43:56
What's happening with the switches pre-ordered from 7bit on DT? Will they be shipped with my GH60 or separately?

The plan is to hold your order until everything is received, and your order is complete and ready to ship. Unless you want to make other arrangements, anyway.

Hmm, maybe i should just get the switches shipped to me so i don't have to wait around for too long.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 03 June 2013, 11:25:01
What's happening with the switches pre-ordered from 7bit on DT? Will they be shipped with my GH60 or separately?

The plan is to hold your order until everything is received, and your order is complete and ready to ship. Unless you want to make other arrangements, anyway.

What if we only have PCB ordered? Would those still be held up by switches?

I'd be interested to know this too as I've only ordered 2 PCBs and a plate...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 03 June 2013, 12:25:17
What's happening with the switches pre-ordered from 7bit on DT? Will they be shipped with my GH60 or separately?

The plan is to hold your order until everything is received, and your order is complete and ready to ship. Unless you want to make other arrangements, anyway.

Hmm, maybe i should just get the switches shipped to me so i don't have to wait around for too long.

You can do that, or you can just PM me or WFD asking that we ship the PCB/plate/stabs separately, and that you're willing to pay separate shipping for the switches when they arrive.


DONT HIT ME
Show Image
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2007/10/millhouse.jpg)


is it too late to add 2 sets of pcb cherry stabs to my order?

Yes, sorry, it is too late to add I'm afraid. You're already paid up.


What's happening with the switches pre-ordered from 7bit on DT? Will they be shipped with my GH60 or separately?

The plan is to hold your order until everything is received, and your order is complete and ready to ship. Unless you want to make other arrangements, anyway.

What if we only have PCB ordered? Would those still be held up by switches?

No, if your order is complete before the switches are delivered, I see no reason to wait on anything else to arrive before shipping out to you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: daerid on Mon, 03 June 2013, 12:26:53
Paid. Although my order switched from 2 bare PCBs to 1, which is actually fine. I really only need one extra (in case I royally screw up the first).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: iAmAhab on Mon, 03 June 2013, 12:33:44
Paid, now I just need some need some nice nordic caps and a case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 03 June 2013, 12:34:30
No, if your order is complete before the switches are delivered, I see no reason to wait on anything else to arrive before shipping out to you.

Awesome :D  Thanks for the info
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tricheboars on Mon, 03 June 2013, 13:41:50
should i be expecting another invoice? i onlygot one like a week ago and paid it immediately.  i am confused about the second invoice. i did order switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: longweight on Mon, 03 June 2013, 13:45:02
Am I too late to order a PCB?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 03 June 2013, 14:02:25
should i be expecting another invoice? i onlygot one like a week ago and paid it immediately.  i am confused about the second invoice. i did order switches.

What color?

And you would have already received it if you were on the list.  It was only 40ish people
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 14:29:50
Paid, now I just need some need some nice nordic caps and a case.
Well there are a lot of options for cases. :)

Would love if I could get one like this. (http://i.imgur.com/KOy0jwY.jpg) Never made a case before so I don't know where to start.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: cancelx on Mon, 03 June 2013, 14:40:14
Haven't got my invoice yet. When is the deadline?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 03 June 2013, 15:01:54
According to the google document you have...  Check in your paypal account - sometimes email notifications don't get sent from paypal...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: OnTheBrink on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:00:48
I just received my invoice. Can you confirm my switches a bit more? I asked for Ergo Clears. I want to make sure that is what is listed on the invoice.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:01:42
I just received my invoice. Can you confirm my switches a bit more? I asked for Ergo Clears. I want to make sure that is what is listed on the invoice.

What's listed on your invoice? To make ergo clears, you need clear or gray tactile switches.

Edit - What I'm trying to say is that you cannot order "ergo clears". They're a modified switch and not something Cherry makes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:23:46
I just received my invoice. Can you confirm my switches a bit more? I asked for Ergo Clears. I want to make sure that is what is listed on the invoice.

What's listed on your invoice? To make ergo clears, you need clear or gray tactile switches.

Edit - What I'm trying to say is that you cannot order "ergo clears". They're a modified switch and not something Cherry makes.

It's also not something I'm going to list as, as has been stated, I have no need to know anything about what I'm billing you.  But yes, your order still states you're getting clears to ergo out
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: bear95 on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:31:34
Paid, now I just need some need some nice nordic caps and a case.
Well there are a lot of options for cases. :)

Would love if I could get one like this. (http://i.imgur.com/KOy0jwY.jpg) Never made a case before so I don't know where to start.

Same! That is the case I want too!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: OddOne on Mon, 03 June 2013, 19:37:09
Just paid my invoice.  Now just need to figure out a case for this.  Keep up the good work komar, JD, & WFD!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: oluf on Mon, 03 June 2013, 20:12:50
...you may be interested in this, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43407.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: camelCase on Mon, 03 June 2013, 20:20:11
...you may be interested in this, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43407.0

Wow if I didn't already have two plates on the way, I'd be all over this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 22:59:03
Paid, now I just need some need some nice nordic caps and a case.
Well there are a lot of options for cases. :)

Would love if I could get one like this. (http://i.imgur.com/KOy0jwY.jpg) Never made a case before so I don't know where to start.

Same! That is the case I want too!
And found it:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44147.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pandather on Tue, 04 June 2013, 00:11:20
If anyone decides they don't want theirs, please PM me!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 04 June 2013, 11:25:45
should i be expecting another invoice? i onlygot one like a week ago and paid it immediately.  i am confused about the second invoice. i did order switches.

What color?

And you would have already received it if you were on the list.  It was only 40ish people

TJ i ordered red and green switches from this groupbuy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: daerid on Tue, 04 June 2013, 11:43:05
And found it:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44147.0

This would be the case I'd get, unfortunately GON has stated the GH60 PCB won't fit into the 38GT case :( :( :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 04 June 2013, 11:44:52
I thought he's making a new one just for GH60?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:01:13
And found it:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44147.0

This would be the case I'd get, unfortunately GON has stated the GH60 PCB won't fit into the 38GT case :( :( :(
Yeah, I just saw that. I'm not sure why not, it looks like a pretty standard layout, but if I can bug him (with enough peoples interest) into making a HHKB style one for the GH60 I'd be super happy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 04 June 2013, 12:25:26
Yeah, I just saw that. I'm not sure why not, it looks like a pretty standard layout, but if I can bug him (with enough peoples interest) into making a HHKB style one for the GH60 I'd be super happy.

^This would be absolutely fantastic.  I know I'd be in for one at least, and I know there are a lot of people looking for nice GH60 cases, so he'd have a ready market.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: boost on Tue, 04 June 2013, 13:12:25
WFD,

When you get some time my order needs to be corrected as I filled out the change forum before I got the invoice.

Thanks
Boost
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 04 June 2013, 13:40:09
Yeah, I just saw that. I'm not sure why not, it looks like a pretty standard layout, but if I can bug him (with enough peoples interest) into making a HHKB style one for the GH60 I'd be super happy.

^This would be absolutely fantastic.  I know I'd be in for one at least, and I know there are a lot of people looking for nice GH60 cases, so he'd have a ready market.
I asked him about it and he currently doesn't have anything planned which is fully understandable when you look at the work he puts in to these. Really I think it'd only happen if we were able to have enough quantity to make it worth it which is made 10x harder with all the different layouts people want.



I don't know if it's appropriate for an IC to be made, but I'm not sure how else to gauge interest.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 04 June 2013, 13:51:30
WFD,

When you get some time my order needs to be corrected as I filled out the change forum before I got the invoice.

Thanks
Boost

You know he can't change invoices right?

Since, you know, it's my paypal and all.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pasph on Tue, 04 June 2013, 17:14:24
Yeah, I just saw that. I'm not sure why not, it looks like a pretty standard layout, but if I can bug him (with enough peoples interest) into making a HHKB style one for the GH60 I'd be super happy.

^This would be absolutely fantastic.  I know I'd be in for one at least, and I know there are a lot of people looking for nice GH60 cases, so he'd have a ready market.
I asked him about it and he currently doesn't have anything planned which is fully understandable when you look at the work he puts in to these. Really I think it'd only happen if we were able to have enough quantity to make it worth it which is made 10x harder with all the different layouts people want.



I don't know if it's appropriate for an IC to be made, but I'm not sure how else to gauge interest.

It's 2 plates universal ANSI & ISO and 3 cases winkey, winkeyless and hhkb
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 04 June 2013, 17:22:37
Yeah, I just saw that. I'm not sure why not, it looks like a pretty standard layout, but if I can bug him (with enough peoples interest) into making a HHKB style one for the GH60 I'd be super happy.

^This would be absolutely fantastic.  I know I'd be in for one at least, and I know there are a lot of people looking for nice GH60 cases, so he'd have a ready market.
I asked him about it and he currently doesn't have anything planned which is fully understandable when you look at the work he puts in to these. Really I think it'd only happen if we were able to have enough quantity to make it worth it which is made 10x harder with all the different layouts people want.



I don't know if it's appropriate for an IC to be made, but I'm not sure how else to gauge interest.

It's 2 plates universal ANSI & ISO and 3 cases winkey, winkeyless and hhkb
The case is the plate, so he'd have to make:
ANSI winkey
ANSI winkeyless
ANSI hhkb
ANSI 1.5 full mods
ISOwinkey
ISO winkeyless
ISO hhkb
ISO 1.5 full mods

which is going to be hard, and most likely not going to happen, to get all of those with enough interest. More so for the ISO as they already don't sell all that many to my knowledge (164 total ISO plates bought vs 692 ANSI and that isn't counting HHKB). Then of all those people, who will spend an additional ~$150 on the case.


An IC is the only way to be certain and I'm asking GON if he is okay with it. Don't want to put pressure on him to do anything he doesn't want to do.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 04 June 2013, 17:38:12
Yeah, I just saw that. I'm not sure why not, it looks like a pretty standard layout, but if I can bug him (with enough peoples interest) into making a HHKB style one for the GH60 I'd be super happy.

^This would be absolutely fantastic.  I know I'd be in for one at least, and I know there are a lot of people looking for nice GH60 cases, so he'd have a ready market.
I asked him about it and he currently doesn't have anything planned which is fully understandable when you look at the work he puts in to these. Really I think it'd only happen if we were able to have enough quantity to make it worth it which is made 10x harder with all the different layouts people want.



I don't know if it's appropriate for an IC to be made, but I'm not sure how else to gauge interest.

It's 2 plates universal ANSI & ISO and 3 cases winkey, winkeyless and hhkb
The case is the plate, so he'd have to make:
ANSI winkey
ANSI winkeyless
ANSI hhkb
ANSI 1.5 full mods
ISOwinkey
ISO winkeyless
ISO hhkb
ISO 1.5 full mods

which is going to be hard, and most likely not going to happen, to get all of those with enough interest. More so for the ISO as they already don't sell all that many to my knowledge (164 total ISO plates bought vs 692 ANSI and that isn't counting HHKB). Then of all those people, who will spend an additional ~$150 on the case.


An IC is the only way to be certain and I'm asking GON if he is okay with it. Don't want to put pressure on him to do anything he doesn't want to do.

that case is also cool if you want to hardwire without a pcb. I know that is what I am going to use them for. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pasph on Tue, 04 June 2013, 17:43:38
We will have plenty of choices:
 - Plastic Poker case
 - Plastic Pure case
 - Imsto aluminum tray
 - Oneproduct aluminum case
 - Treble aluminum tray
 - Pure’s aluminum CNC
 - WhiteFireDragon’s design
 - The_Beast’s design
 - alixinhzai's acrylic case
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 04 June 2013, 17:49:49
Don't want those. :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Leslieann on Tue, 04 June 2013, 19:06:21
Paid!

By the way, does anyone have the cad diagram, I need some measurements so I can get started on my case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: balanar on Tue, 04 June 2013, 19:32:47
We will have plenty of choices:
 - Plastic Poker case
 - Plastic Pure case
 - Imsto aluminum tray
 - Oneproduct aluminum case
 - Treble aluminum tray
 - Pure’s aluminum CNC
 - WhiteFireDragon’s design
 - The_Beast’s design
 - alixinhzai's acrylic case

It won't fit in the Duck Poker case? Don't forget that beautiful case!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jabar on Tue, 04 June 2013, 19:35:25
deadline for payment?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: salmo on Tue, 04 June 2013, 19:53:08
We will have plenty of choices:
 - Plastic Poker case
 - Plastic Pure case
 - Imsto aluminum tray
 - Oneproduct aluminum case
 - Treble aluminum tray
 - Pure’s aluminum CNC
 - WhiteFireDragon’s design
 - The_Beast’s design
 - alixinhzai's acrylic case

Also, piece of cardboard.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Tue, 04 June 2013, 20:11:50
We will have plenty of choices:
 - Plastic Poker case
 - Plastic Pure case
 - Imsto aluminum tray
 - Oneproduct aluminum case
 - Treble aluminum tray
 - Pure’s aluminum CNC
 - WhiteFireDragon’s design
 - The_Beast’s design
 - alixinhzai's acrylic case

Also, piece of cardboard.  :)
This^

We will have plenty of choices:
 - Plastic Poker case
 - Plastic Pure case
 - Imsto aluminum tray
 - Oneproduct aluminum case
 - Treble aluminum tray
 - Pure’s aluminum CNC
 - WhiteFireDragon’s design
 - The_Beast’s design
 - alixinhzai's acrylic case

It won't fit in the Duck Poker case? Don't forget that beautiful case!


Don't forget about Planar ;)

(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5268/planary.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 04 June 2013, 20:20:13
As far as I can tell, and after some light research, getting a case is either going to require a lot of luck, a lot of money, or both. Unless you happen to have a poker case lying around, which I suspect is the case for a lot of you guys.

I was toying with an idea for a wood tray/plate with exposed switches, but eventually realized that I don't know enough about wood, nor anyone nearby to make one should I ever succeed in designing it.

After looking at WFD's case design, which I really like, I realized it might have been a mistake to order an assembled GH60 with plate, since a lot of cool cases seem to come with an integrated plate. Tough luck for someone who doesn't know any soldering...

I might just buy 4 rubber feet and put one at each corner and call it a super geeky exposed nude keyboard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Leslieann on Tue, 04 June 2013, 20:47:39
As far as I can tell, and after some light research, getting a case is either going to require a lot of luck, a lot of money, or both. Unless you happen to have a poker case lying around, which I suspect is the case for a lot of you guys.

I have two things going that will help in that regard.
The first is end caps/feet for the [ur=http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43407.0l]plate/case[/url] The-Beast is working on.

The second project is a complete GH60 case. Plans are for around $40, hopefully less, depends on plastic and print time. While they won't be as cool as aluminum or quite as smooth as a molded part, there are some significant advantages. Price, customization (colors, logos), low weight, and they will have dual height, removable feet (giving 3 heights total). I can even remove the foot mounts entirely if someone wants.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 04 June 2013, 23:48:03
Update: payment deadline is the end of June 30. If invoices are not paid by the end of that date, your order gets dropped, simply because waiting for you slows down the whole GB.

The last batch of order changes are done with, and from now on, no more order changes. I think we were pretty lenient with this, because no other GB accepts constant order changes, even after invoicing. Thank you to all who have paid quickly, and/or had no requests for any changes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: metafour on Tue, 04 June 2013, 23:58:21
I made an order change request but received my invoice without the change applied. I just paid it assuming that it wouldn't happen. Just want to make sure it doesn't get applied retroactively and cause issues.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 05 June 2013, 00:06:03
After looking at WFD's case design, which I really like, I realized it might have been a mistake to order an assembled GH60 with plate, since a lot of cool cases seem to come with an integrated plate. Tough luck for someone who doesn't know any soldering...

If you're looking specifically at my case design, then it will fit all these plates in here, as well as the custom plate for that case. But just letting you know now that it won't be cheap because of all the details. I hope to have a budget case around $50-$100 around the same time though.


I made an order change request but received my invoice without the change applied. I just paid it assuming that it wouldn't happen. Just want to make sure it doesn't get applied retroactively and cause issues.

You mean the recent change request on the stabilizers? I'll send you a PM about this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 05 June 2013, 00:07:02
After looking at WFD's case design, which I really like, I realized it might have been a mistake to order an assembled GH60 with plate, since a lot of cool cases seem to come with an integrated plate. Tough luck for someone who doesn't know any soldering...

If you're looking specifically at my case design, then it will fit all these plates in here, as well as the custom plate for that case. But just letting you know now that it won't be cheap because of all the details. I hope to have a budget case around $50-$100 around the same time though.


I made an order change request but received my invoice without the change applied. I just paid it assuming that it wouldn't happen. Just want to make sure it doesn't get applied retroactively and cause issues.

You mean the recent change request on the stabilizers? I'll send you a PM about this.

Yeah. I am totally fine with just going with my original order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: TheQsanity on Wed, 05 June 2013, 02:18:48
Anyone working on hhkb case layout?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mkaito on Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:48:49
After looking at WFD's case design, which I really like, I realized it might have been a mistake to order an assembled GH60 with plate, since a lot of cool cases seem to come with an integrated plate. Tough luck for someone who doesn't know any soldering...

If you're looking specifically at my case design, then it will fit all these plates in here, as well as the custom plate for that case. But just letting you know now that it won't be cheap because of all the details. I hope to have a budget case around $50-$100 around the same time though.

So you're saying I could just drop the assembled GH60 with plate into your case? That's mega-awesome! I think I remember seeing a ballpark figure of $180 for your case design. If it's still somewhere around that mark, I might be able to set aside some money in the coming months. I'll keep an eye out for that budget version too, just in case :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:51:23
Anyone working on hhkb case layout?
there was a sale for acrylic cases. I believe hes doing Round 2 once gh60 is finished

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40468.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: yyr on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:15:59
Seen late, I can still submit an order?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:17:00
Seen late, I can still submit an order?

Sorry, but no. Orders have been closed for over a month now. People with orders are not even allowed to change them at this late date. All invoices have gone out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:36:21
I'm sure there will be some people that will decide they don't need as many PCB as they ordered. Hell I may even be one of those people.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 05 June 2013, 11:12:31
I'm sure there will be some people that will decide they don't need as many PCB as they ordered. Hell I may even be one of those people.
Yeah me as well! I think 3 is a bit much :\
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mkaito on Wed, 05 June 2013, 11:40:15
In order to not burden the GB organizers with extra work, I suggest those who still want a board to get in touch directly with those who might have ordered too many.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 05 June 2013, 16:59:12
Form up to date with people that have paid
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: guilleguillaume on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:08:09
Woops! I received the Invoice three days ago and I didn't notice. Paying tomorrow!  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Robstero on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:57:55
Where are the invoices typically sent to? Am not seeing anything in my PMs or at my email address - am probably being  daft though :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 17:59:44
Where are the invoices typically sent to? Am not seeing anything in my PMs or at my email address - am probably being  daft though :)

Check your paypal account. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:10:21
So my note associated with my order might be confusing and I just want to clarify, who should I PM?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Wed, 05 June 2013, 18:36:50
Okay, i knowwwww you said no more order changes...

But... if possible, i would like to subtract assembly from my order. I don't want to change any parts or anything "crazy" like that, just a little light on funds and still not sure which layout i want to use on my universal plate, so i don't even know how you'd assemble it... unless of course all the plate-mount-able switches can be assembled, prior to the pcb-mount-required switches, allowing me to finish that part myself, once i decide which layout i want, and can find keys for.

I asked this pages ago, but i don't think anyone answered: is this a reasonable thing to attempt? Assembling all the plate-mount switches first, then adding the pcb-mount switches to the board After the plate and plate-switches are already mounted? Or is that a wicked-bad ultra-hassle thing? Is it just better to wait to mount the plate and plate-switches, until after the pcb-mount switches are mounted?

If it's not a big deal to add pcb-mounted switches in the "universal" holes, after the plate and plate-switches are already assembled, then maybe i don't need to change anything. But if it's a huge hassle to mount the pcb-mounted switches after the plate-mounted switches and plate, then i do. Or, i need to decide which layout i want, prior to assembly... which is what i hoped to avoid by going with the universal plate. :P

That's right, i'm noob, i just need to know what, if any, are my options here, and which way to proceed. Or, if there is but a single way forward, then i guess knowing that would work too. <.<
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: precarious on Wed, 05 June 2013, 19:55:41
Update: payment deadline is the end of June 30. If invoices are not paid by the end of that date, your order gets dropped, simply because waiting for you slows down the whole GB.

The last batch of order changes are done with, and from now on, no more order changes. I think we were pretty lenient with this, because no other GB accepts constant order changes, even after invoicing. Thank you to all who have paid quickly, and/or had no requests for any changes.

my order is still outstanding, but i figure i better post and just mention i'll pay it before the deadline. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:16:56
Do you guys think people are willing to sell off some of their extra GH60? I'm no engineer so I would probably want one that is completely made lol. Or should we just wait until they show up in classifieds? GH60 looks awesome and I'm sad I missed out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tricheboars on Thu, 06 June 2013, 00:08:48
I have a feeling there maybe another round of orders (it has been talked about somewhere on this thread I believe).  I also imagine that there will be gh60s pre-built on the classifieds. You may not get a great selection of switch choices though.

You don't need to be an engineer to solder.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 06 June 2013, 00:10:37
I have a feeling there maybe another round of orders.  I also imagine that there will be gh60s pure built on the classifieds. You may not get a great selection of switches though.

You don't need to be an engineer to solder.

I hope it's not any time soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 06 June 2013, 00:12:39
Like with every GB, there will always be people that changed their minds after payment, but likewise, there will always be people that missed it and want in.


I have a feeling there maybe another round of orders (it has been talked about somewhere on this thread I believe). 

Where was it mentioned? It's a small possibility, but I wouldn't count on it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 06 June 2013, 00:20:40
Like with every GB, there will always be people that changed their minds after payment, but likewise, there will always be people that missed it and want in.


I have a feeling there maybe another round of orders (it has been talked about somewhere on this thread I believe). 

Where was it mentioned? It's a small possibility, but I wouldn't count on it.

If some people choose not to pay their orders, would it be possible to let someone else claim their order and pay it? This way you can possibly lose less orders and people that missed out can join.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nickr on Thu, 06 June 2013, 00:24:43
Like with every GB, there will always be people that changed their minds after payment, but likewise, there will always be people that missed it and want in.

I want in but, probably like kenmai9, the finished product is more interesting than coordinating the pieces (the case in particular) and then soldering it all together.  If it were all a packaged deal then I'd jump on this.  Anyone interested in soldering and casing one up for others?  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 06 June 2013, 01:07:21
Like with every GB, there will always be people that changed their minds after payment, but likewise, there will always be people that missed it and want in.

I want in but, probably like kenmai9, the finished product is more interesting than coordinating the pieces (the case in particular) and then soldering it all together.  If it were all a packaged deal then I'd jump on this.  Anyone interested in soldering and casing one up for others?  ;D
There was an assembly option.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nil on Thu, 06 June 2013, 01:35:57
If some people choose not to pay their orders, would it be possible to let someone else claim their order and pay it? This way you can possibly lose less orders and people that missed out can join.
I'm also interested in this possibility. (Am one of those unlucky few who haven't visited and/or known about the new GH60 group buy until it's too late.)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 06 June 2013, 01:57:29
If some people choose not to pay their orders, would it be possible to let someone else claim their order and pay it? This way you can possibly lose less orders and people that missed out can join.
I'm also interested in this possibility. (Am one of those unlucky few who haven't visited and/or known about the new GH60 group buy until it's too late.)

i'm going to sound like a **** here, but out of the hundreds of these sold and a majority of the orders now listed as paid i don't think they are worried about losing a few orders. They really gave a lot of time with this; your best bet is to wait till after these are produced and people who paid have second thoughts, happened with a bunch of people in the phantom group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nil on Thu, 06 June 2013, 02:15:55
i'm going to sound like a **** here, but out of the hundreds of these sold and a majority of the orders now listed as paid i don't think they are worried about losing a few orders. They really gave a lot of time with this; your best bet is to wait till after these are produced and people who paid have second thoughts, happened with a bunch of people in the phantom group buy.
I understand that, and you don't sound rude at all. That's certainly what I plan to do, and if that doesn't work, having to wait the next year or so for a new GH60 group buy won't kill me. It doesn't hurt to ask, and it's really more a case of "why not?"--so long as the substituters must pay ASAP (like, say, within that very day) and don't hold up the line.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Dgsbllx on Thu, 06 June 2013, 04:06:27
Paid  ;)

Apologies for the late change, very much appreciated for you still accepting changes after invoicing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: j2c8w6f8 on Thu, 06 June 2013, 04:59:14
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 06 June 2013, 15:40:08
I know there are one or two people that are looking to offload their orders and I expect I'll be getting rid of either one of mine or a poker once I have them in my hands.

But yeah, I'd like to catch up on other projects before another round of this, kthx
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 06 June 2013, 17:10:46
does the center mounting position match the pure pcb?
I was curious because I ran across this today and it made me think of this project

http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Modifications:KBC_Poker_X:Pure_Center_Support_Modification
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: viasacra89 on Fri, 07 June 2013, 02:41:08
I have a feeling there maybe another round of orders (it has been talked about somewhere on this thread I believe).  I also imagine that there will be gh60s pre-built on the classifieds. You may not get a great selection of switch choices though.

You don't need to be an engineer to solder.

I kind of hope that they don't do another round.  It might sound selfish, but I like the idea of the GH60 being limited edition.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 07 June 2013, 04:41:45
I have a feeling there maybe another round of orders (it has been talked about somewhere on this thread I believe).  I also imagine that there will be gh60s pre-built on the classifieds. You may not get a great selection of switch choices though.

You don't need to be an engineer to solder.

I kind of hope that they don't do another round.  It might sound selfish, but I like the idea of the GH60 being limited edition.

this.

rather bring out a GH60 v2

lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Thechemist on Fri, 07 June 2013, 04:44:21
Gh60 V2 full backlit programable version  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Broadmonkey on Fri, 07 June 2013, 08:13:38
The GH60 is fully programmable, whether or not it is also fully backlit remains to be seen, but it will have some spots for backlighting.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jmneuv on Fri, 07 June 2013, 08:27:05
I think it's getting non connected led solder pads for a handwiring diy solution.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 07 June 2013, 08:48:59
Gh60 V2 full backlit programable version  ;D

The GH60 is fully programmable, whether or not it is also fully backlit remains to be seen, but it will have some spots for backlighting.

It most definitely is fully programmable. This was a design parameter. :)

I think it's getting non connected led solder pads for a handwiring diy solution.

This is correct, also.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Thechemist on Fri, 07 June 2013, 09:23:14
I should have been clearer in my post, i was referring to led portion being programmable.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 07 June 2013, 09:24:57
I should have been clearer in my post, i was referring to led portion being programmable.

I think what you are looking for is called "Ducky."  :cool:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Thechemist on Fri, 07 June 2013, 09:32:45
I should have been clearer in my post, i was referring to led portion being programmable.

I think what you are looking for is called "Ducky."  :cool:

I would rather have a custom gh60 with the ability to program leds the way i see fit rather than have set of led functions that i cannot configure.  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 07 June 2013, 09:43:39
I should have been clearer in my post, i was referring to led portion being programmable.

I think what you are looking for is called "Ducky."  :cool:

I would rather have a custom gh60 with the ability to program leds the way i see fit rather than have set of led functions that i cannot configure.  :p

When you figure out how to make this happen, maybe you can help these guys here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26751.0). :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: v4mp1 on Fri, 07 June 2013, 12:06:50
jdcarpe btw, do you have 1000hz firmware ready for me? :D

edit: ah it was komar, sorry.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: guilleguillaume on Fri, 07 June 2013, 14:20:41
Invoice paid. I'm sorry for the delay!  :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jspark on Fri, 07 June 2013, 17:52:24
Paid. Sorry for late
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Winther on Fri, 07 June 2013, 19:54:41
I think it's getting non connected led solder pads for a handwiring diy solution.

This is correct, also.
[/quote]

So the GH60, can be fully backlit?

Will there be a tutorial for this (WFD)?? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 07 June 2013, 20:19:49
I think it's getting non connected led solder pads for a handwiring diy solution.

This is correct, also.

So the GH60, can be fully backlit?

Will there be a tutorial for this (WFD)?? :)
[/quote]

I think komar said that it would be only WASD and esc  but he was looking how it would turn out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: T0ken on Fri, 07 June 2013, 20:58:05
I think it's getting non connected led solder pads for a handwiring diy solution.

This is correct, also.

So the GH60, can be fully backlit?

Will there be a tutorial for this (WFD)?? :)

I think komar said that it would be only WASD and esc  but he was looking how it would turn out.
[/quote]

Komar mentioned that there willbe pads for LEDs, but only wasd, esc, and "arrow" keys would be wired. In that case, you would need to use jumper wires or some other means to get it fully backlit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 07 June 2013, 22:08:41
Clearing up the LED question:

The final PCB will have 11 holes for optional LEDs (Esc, Caps, WASD, spacebar, arrow cluster). White or red LEDs with appropriate resistors will be included for the all PCBs except the bare PCBs (duh). If you choose to install these, you must solder them on yourself unless you got the assembly service.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 07 June 2013, 23:01:42
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Leslieann on Sat, 08 June 2013, 01:34:53
I kind of hope that they don't do another round.  It might sound selfish, but I like the idea of the GH60 being limited edition.

Anything like this will always be limited regardless as there are always new people coming who will want them and missed the last buy. It's not like you will be able to get one at Best Buy.

Not to mention the case and building is an issue that will haunt a lot of people.  There are a lot of case-less and incomplete Phantoms out there, so regardless of sales numbers, the actual number of complete, working keyboards will always be small for these sorts of things.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: agor on Sat, 08 June 2013, 12:31:36
Clearing up the LED question:

The final PCB will have 11 holes for optional LEDs (Esc, Caps, WASD, spacebar, arrow cluster). White or red LEDs with appropriate resistors will be included for the all PCBs except the bare PCBs (duh). If you choose to install these, you must solder them on yourself unless you got the assembly service.


Did not know that before and would like both boards to have white backlit ESC, WASD, Cpas and SpaceBar.
Is it too late?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 08 June 2013, 12:55:14
Clearing up the LED question:

The final PCB will have 11 holes for optional LEDs (Esc, Caps, WASD, spacebar, arrow cluster). White or red LEDs with appropriate resistors will be included for the all PCBs except the bare PCBs (duh). If you choose to install these, you must solder them on yourself unless you got the assembly service.


The arrows beting right shift, window, menu and control? Will these LEDs also work for someone with 1.5/1/1.5?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 08 June 2013, 16:53:45
Can someone talk to Feng so he can get some of these from MKC :p

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4-5577807997.1.HPvpTD&id=20724947952
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 08 June 2013, 18:33:32
agreed o.o
so many case designs...so much hype...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Robstero on Sun, 09 June 2013, 10:08:22
Paid - thanks for the pointer jdcarpe, and apologies for the delay.

There's so much in this project that makes it really great beyond the final product. The collaborative group effort, the design process, the fact that the process is laid bare for all to see... All great stuff IMHO.

Anyway, big thanks and respect to everyone involved in this. It's an amazing achievement to get to this point.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 09 June 2013, 10:16:43
Can someone talk to Feng so he can get some of these from MKC :p

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4-5577807997.1.HPvpTD&id=20724947952

very interested in this or any aluminum lz/kmac style case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: kekstee on Sun, 09 June 2013, 17:08:54
Yeah, if some case options made a GB I'd just have to get one of them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:09:03
Can someone link me a png of the final PCB or at least the latest revision? Thanks :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: sth on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:09:34
Okay, i knowwwww you said no more order changes...

But... if possible, i would like to subtract assembly from my order. I don't want to change any parts or anything "crazy" like that, just a little light on funds and still not sure which layout i want to use on my universal plate, so i don't even know how you'd assemble it... unless of course all the plate-mount-able switches can be assembled, prior to the pcb-mount-required switches, allowing me to finish that part myself, once i decide which layout i want, and can find keys for.

I asked this pages ago, but i don't think anyone answered: is this a reasonable thing to attempt? Assembling all the plate-mount switches first, then adding the pcb-mount switches to the board After the plate and plate-switches are already mounted? Or is that a wicked-bad ultra-hassle thing? Is it just better to wait to mount the plate and plate-switches, until after the pcb-mount switches are mounted?

If it's not a big deal to add pcb-mounted switches in the "universal" holes, after the plate and plate-switches are already assembled, then maybe i don't need to change anything. But if it's a huge hassle to mount the pcb-mounted switches after the plate-mounted switches and plate, then i do. Or, i need to decide which layout i want, prior to assembly... which is what i hoped to avoid by going with the universal plate. :P

That's right, i'm noob, i just need to know what, if any, are my options here, and which way to proceed. Or, if there is but a single way forward, then i guess knowing that would work too. <.<

here's a tip: make changes before the group buy is in invoicing stage. don't make order changes after the fact.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:30:08
Can someone link me a png of the final PCB or at least the latest revision? Thanks :)

Not fully done yet. It's basically totally different than the first prototypes that we got.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:31:18
In which case, when the new boards work, where will the files be released (since Komar has made this project Open Source Hardware)?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:38:35
Can someone link me a png of the final PCB or at least the latest revision? Thanks :)

Not fully done yet. It's basically totally different than the first prototypes that we got.
How (and why) is it being changed?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 10 June 2013, 00:53:40
^ Some traces rerouted, standoff holes and USB shifted, no more rotated switches, optional LEDs, expansion option. It's for the better.


In which case, when the new boards work, where will the files be released (since Komar has made this project Open Source Hardware)?

When it's done, there should be a link. Here is the latest, but this will be changed.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59077581/gerber-2013-05-05.zip (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59077581/gerber-2013-05-05.zip)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ForestFunK on Mon, 10 June 2013, 06:17:51
^ Some traces rerouted, standoff holes and USB shifted, no more rotated switches, optional LEDs, expansion option. It's for the better.


In which case, when the new boards work, where will the files be released (since Komar has made this project Open Source Hardware)?

When it's done, there should be a link. Here is the latest, but this will be changed.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59077581/gerber-2013-05-05.zip (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59077581/gerber-2013-05-05.zip)

I hope it still fits in alis case  :eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 10 June 2013, 09:42:18
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 10 June 2013, 10:02:48
^ Some traces rerouted, standoff holes and USB shifted, no more rotated switches, optional LEDs, expansion option. It's for the better.


In which case, when the new boards work, where will the files be released (since Komar has made this project Open Source Hardware)?

When it's done, there should be a link. Here is the latest, but this will be changed.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59077581/gerber-2013-05-05.zip (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59077581/gerber-2013-05-05.zip)

I hope it still fits in alis case  :eek:
i would hope they dont **** us over this bad :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: T0ken on Mon, 10 June 2013, 10:25:45
^ Some traces rerouted, standoff holes and USB shifted, no more rotated switches, optional LEDs, expansion option. It's for the better.


In which case, when the new boards work, where will the files be released (since Komar has made this project Open Source Hardware)?

When it's done, there should be a link. Here is the latest, but this will be changed.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59077581/gerber-2013-05-05.zip (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59077581/gerber-2013-05-05.zip)

I hope it still fits in alis case  :eek:
i would hope they dont **** us over this bad :p

Of course not...although out of paranoia I made some quick measurements from the gerber files and compared to Ali's case - PCB is ~285mm x 94mm and the USB connector pad ~13mm from the edge - this will fit in Ali's case. If the dimensions and USB connector stay about the same then  it'll fit fine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 10 June 2013, 11:15:31
Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Mon, 10 June 2013, 20:33:56
Okay, i knowwwww you said no more order changes...

But... if possible, i would like to subtract assembly from my order. I don't want to change any parts or anything "crazy" like that, just a little light on funds and still not sure which layout i want to use on my universal plate, so i don't even know how you'd assemble it... unless of course all the plate-mount-able switches can be assembled, prior to the pcb-mount-required switches, allowing me to finish that part myself, once i decide which layout i want, and can find keys for.

I asked this pages ago, but i don't think anyone answered: is this a reasonable thing to attempt? Assembling all the plate-mount switches first, then adding the pcb-mount switches to the board After the plate and plate-switches are already mounted? Or is that a wicked-bad ultra-hassle thing? Is it just better to wait to mount the plate and plate-switches, until after the pcb-mount switches are mounted?

If it's not a big deal to add pcb-mounted switches in the "universal" holes, after the plate and plate-switches are already assembled, then maybe i don't need to change anything. But if it's a huge hassle to mount the pcb-mounted switches after the plate-mounted switches and plate, then i do. Or, i need to decide which layout i want, prior to assembly... which is what i hoped to avoid by going with the universal plate. :P

That's right, i'm noob, i just need to know what, if any, are my options here, and which way to proceed. Or, if there is but a single way forward, then i guess knowing that would work too. <.<

here's a tip: make changes before the group buy is in invoicing stage. don't make order changes after the fact.

Huh. That doesn't answer any of my questions!

I would like to assemble it myself, instead of having someone else do it, because my questions apparently cannot be answered, and so i cannot determine what assembly i am actually getting.

I am not asking to change which board version, which switches, or the amounts of anything i've ordered.

I am simply asking to not pay for assembly, as i initially thought i would like someone else to do for me, and instead, assemble it myself (as far as switches and plates go).

I don't know why that's a big deal. The only "change" is that it's one less thing for someone else to have to do, which i am willing to do myself.

Is that so wrong?


Since no one has answered my question yet, here it is again:

Would it be okay, or not okay, to have all the "normal" keys (switches) assembled (affixed to the board and plate), but then add the rest of the switches later (those which can be positioned differently than "standard," due to universal plate design)? Or is this a case of "you have to do it all at once or it's a huge hassle" ?

I feel these are valid questions. I attempted to ask this before invoicing began.

I am still asking.

I don't understand what would be the problem with asking to void the assembly fee (aka "change the order") and do that part myself, without changing anything else. I feel this is a reasonable request. Surely no one would be butt-hurt over being relieved from the paid obligation to assemble one more board?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 10 June 2013, 22:49:00
They said no more order changes. I believe they meant it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: 4LI4Z on Tue, 11 June 2013, 12:08:54
Is it sure, that the design of the PCB remains the way that it fits in imstos case?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 11 June 2013, 12:51:08
Is it sure, that the design of the PCB remains the way that it fits in imstos case?
Yeah, I couldn't see them changing that. It would put out every other case as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: 4LI4Z on Tue, 11 June 2013, 13:26:27
Thought that already but wanted to make it sure.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Moosecraft on Tue, 11 June 2013, 13:37:22
If there are any leftovers or someone that does not want theirs I will probably start looking for one since the new Imsto case is so damn sexy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 11 June 2013, 14:03:30
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Huh. That doesn't answer any of my questions!

I would like to assemble it myself, instead of having someone else do it, because my questions apparently cannot be answered, and so i cannot determine what assembly i am actually getting.

I am not asking to change which board version, which switches, or the amounts of anything i've ordered.

I am simply asking to not pay for assembly, as i initially thought i would like someone else to do for me, and instead, assemble it myself (as far as switches and plates go).

I don't know why that's a big deal. The only "change" is that it's one less thing for someone else to have to do, which i am willing to do myself.

Is that so wrong?


Since no one has answered my question yet, here it is again:

Would it be okay, or not okay, to have all the "normal" keys (switches) assembled (affixed to the board and plate), but then add the rest of the switches later (those which can be positioned differently than "standard," due to universal plate design)? Or is this a case of "you have to do it all at once or it's a huge hassle" ?

I feel these are valid questions. I attempted to ask this before invoicing began.

I am still asking.

I don't understand what would be the problem with asking to void the assembly fee (aka "change the order") and do that part myself, without changing anything else. I feel this is a reasonable request. Surely no one would be butt-hurt over being relieved from the paid obligation to assemble one more board?

You may think it's just one change from one order, we should just do it, no big deal. But consider this: there are a couple hundred orders, and there are constant requests for order changes. Now if everyone reasoned it like this, it's pretty tiresome to constantly make changes for every one of these requests. Multiple spreadsheets needs update, and old invoice canceled to type out another one for you. When orders are closed, there were not suppose to be anymore changes. But we've been pretty lenient with allowing changes, even after invoices were already sent out. No other GB does this, and especially one on this magnitude. I had to send to tjcaustin a whole list of people that wanted changes and needed to be reinvoiced, and that's already done with.

If you need another invoice sent, you'll have to bug tjcaustin to see if he's up for it. Invoicing is out of my and jdcarpe's control.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 11 June 2013, 14:30:03
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Huh. That doesn't answer any of my questions!

I would like to assemble it myself, instead of having someone else do it, because my questions apparently cannot be answered, and so i cannot determine what assembly i am actually getting.

I am not asking to change which board version, which switches, or the amounts of anything i've ordered.

I am simply asking to not pay for assembly, as i initially thought i would like someone else to do for me, and instead, assemble it myself (as far as switches and plates go).

I don't know why that's a big deal. The only "change" is that it's one less thing for someone else to have to do, which i am willing to do myself.

Is that so wrong?


Since no one has answered my question yet, here it is again:

Would it be okay, or not okay, to have all the "normal" keys (switches) assembled (affixed to the board and plate), but then add the rest of the switches later (those which can be positioned differently than "standard," due to universal plate design)? Or is this a case of "you have to do it all at once or it's a huge hassle" ?

I feel these are valid questions. I attempted to ask this before invoicing began.

I am still asking.

I don't understand what would be the problem with asking to void the assembly fee (aka "change the order") and do that part myself, without changing anything else. I feel this is a reasonable request. Surely no one would be butt-hurt over being relieved from the paid obligation to assemble one more board?

You may think it's just one change from one order, we should just do it, no big deal. But consider this: there are a couple hundred orders, and there are constant requests for order changes. Now if everyone reasoned it like this, it's pretty tiresome to constantly make changes for every one of these requests. Multiple spreadsheets needs update, and old invoice canceled to type out another one for you. When orders are closed, there were not suppose to be anymore changes. But we've been pretty lenient with allowing changes, even after invoices were already sent out. No other GB does this, and especially one on this magnitude. I had to send to tjcaustin a whole list of people that wanted changes and needed to be reinvoiced, and that's already done with.

If you need another invoice sent, you'll have to bug tjcaustin to see if he's up for it. Invoicing is out of my and jdcarpe's control.

Agreed. We were very lenient with changes for quite a long time. Everything is now locked in. If TJ wants to send you a new invoice, I have zero problem with him doing it in this one case, but if he doesn't want to, please don't bug him about it, and just accept that it is the way it is.

As to the other part of your question, it would be impossible to assemble the board with a universal plate, without locking in the layout options before soldering all the switches in. Simply because it would not be possible to go back and add the Cherry PCB mount stabilizers for the modifiers once the plate is mounted and covering the PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (CLOSED)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:47:50
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Huh. That doesn't answer any of my questions!

I would like to assemble it myself, instead of having someone else do it, because my questions apparently cannot be answered, and so i cannot determine what assembly i am actually getting.

I am not asking to change which board version, which switches, or the amounts of anything i've ordered.

I am simply asking to not pay for assembly, as i initially thought i would like someone else to do for me, and instead, assemble it myself (as far as switches and plates go).

I don't know why that's a big deal. The only "change" is that it's one less thing for someone else to have to do, which i am willing to do myself.

Is that so wrong?


Since no one has answered my question yet, here it is again:

Would it be okay, or not okay, to have all the "normal" keys (switches) assembled (affixed to the board and plate), but then add the rest of the switches later (those which can be positioned differently than "standard," due to universal plate design)? Or is this a case of "you have to do it all at once or it's a huge hassle" ?

I feel these are valid questions. I attempted to ask this before invoicing began.

I am still asking.

I don't understand what would be the problem with asking to void the assembly fee (aka "change the order") and do that part myself, without changing anything else. I feel this is a reasonable request. Surely no one would be butt-hurt over being relieved from the paid obligation to assemble one more board?

You may think it's just one change from one order, we should just do it, no big deal. But consider this: there are a couple hundred orders, and there are constant requests for order changes. Now if everyone reasoned it like this, it's pretty tiresome to constantly make changes for every one of these requests. Multiple spreadsheets needs update, and old invoice canceled to type out another one for you. When orders are closed, there were not suppose to be anymore changes. But we've been pretty lenient with allowing changes, even after invoices were already sent out. No other GB does this, and especially one on this magnitude. I had to send to tjcaustin a whole list of people that wanted changes and needed to be reinvoiced, and that's already done with.

If you need another invoice sent, you'll have to bug tjcaustin to see if he's up for it. Invoicing is out of my and jdcarpe's control.
Thank you for your response (and leniency).

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Huh. That doesn't answer any of my questions!

I would like to assemble it myself, instead of having someone else do it, because my questions apparently cannot be answered, and so i cannot determine what assembly i am actually getting.

I am not asking to change which board version, which switches, or the amounts of anything i've ordered.

I am simply asking to not pay for assembly, as i initially thought i would like someone else to do for me, and instead, assemble it myself (as far as switches and plates go).

I don't know why that's a big deal. The only "change" is that it's one less thing for someone else to have to do, which i am willing to do myself.

Is that so wrong?


Since no one has answered my question yet, here it is again:

Would it be okay, or not okay, to have all the "normal" keys (switches) assembled (affixed to the board and plate), but then add the rest of the switches later (those which can be positioned differently than "standard," due to universal plate design)? Or is this a case of "you have to do it all at once or it's a huge hassle" ?

I feel these are valid questions. I attempted to ask this before invoicing began.

I am still asking.

I don't understand what would be the problem with asking to void the assembly fee (aka "change the order") and do that part myself, without changing anything else. I feel this is a reasonable request. Surely no one would be butt-hurt over being relieved from the paid obligation to assemble one more board?

You may think it's just one change from one order, we should just do it, no big deal. But consider this: there are a couple hundred orders, and there are constant requests for order changes. Now if everyone reasoned it like this, it's pretty tiresome to constantly make changes for every one of these requests. Multiple spreadsheets needs update, and old invoice canceled to type out another one for you. When orders are closed, there were not suppose to be anymore changes. But we've been pretty lenient with allowing changes, even after invoices were already sent out. No other GB does this, and especially one on this magnitude. I had to send to tjcaustin a whole list of people that wanted changes and needed to be reinvoiced, and that's already done with.

If you need another invoice sent, you'll have to bug tjcaustin to see if he's up for it. Invoicing is out of my and jdcarpe's control.

Agreed. We were very lenient with changes for quite a long time. Everything is now locked in. If TJ wants to send you a new invoice, I have zero problem with him doing it in this one case, but if he doesn't want to, please don't bug him about it, and just accept that it is the way it is.

As to the other part of your question, it would be impossible to assemble the board with a universal plate, without locking in the layout options before soldering all the switches in. Simply because it would not be possible to go back and add the Cherry PCB mount stabilizers for the modifiers once the plate is mounted and covering the PCB.
Thank you also.

I do appreciate what you guys are doing for all of us.

Your clarification is exactly what i was looking for, when i asked a month ago.

I certainly don't want to be billed for something that is impossible, and had i known this a month ago, i would have simply changed the assembly part of my order, then. I just did not know that it would be Impossible to install the stabilizers with the plate and other switches already installed. I just didn't know, and that's why i asked. I wanted clarification on a particular thing, so i could make the right decision. I thought i had seen this issue mentioned once, somewhere in the flood of discussion, but i was not able to locate those particular comments.

I'm certainly not trying to be "difficult" or cause problems. The smoother this goes and the sooner we all get our parts, the better!




May 7th is when i asked:
Question re: assembly:

If someone orders a universal plate (and switches and assembly fee), but isn't yet sure which optional config to use (standard alphanumeric placement notwithstanding)...

What happens? Partial assembly, sans mods?

Would adding pcb-mounted switches in the 'universal' holes (requirement of universal plate), after the rest of the switches have been plate mounted, be problematic? (adding pcb-mounted switches/stabs to an already mostly plate-mounted board?)

When i realized this question was even needed, i thought "maybe i should just assemble it myself... that way i won't have to make some special arrangement or lock myself into a layout, only to change my mind later, or be unable to source non-standard caps..." or something to that effect.

But the next thing i know, changes-deadline passes and invoices get sent out, and i'm still wondering whether i need to change something. Apparently i did need to change something. And so now, the thing i wanted to avoid is occurring. Either i have to make a special arrangement, or i have to be locked into a layout.

If i didn't think this board was such a great idea, and hadn't followed it's development for the majority of a year, i'd probably be like "**** this." That's not meant to upset anyone, i'm just sayin'. I never meant to cause extra hassle. I never intended to be the one who needs special treatment or exceptions made. I just wanted a cool programmable mini-board, and here it is. So here i am.

You guys rock for doing this (and probably for other reasons too).

Assuming i'm "stuck with" my impossible assembly order, how long might i have, to choose a layout and communicate it? How many stabilizers are used in the "max keys" layout?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:09:39
Assuming i'm "stuck with" my impossible assembly order, how long might i have, to choose a layout and communicate it? How many stabilizers are used in the "max keys" layout?

when you ordered you choose a stabilizer type.
you should get the unused stabilizers from the stabilizer kit you ordered with the keyboard.
that way you can desolder and change the layout/plate whenever you want. If you choose pcb stabilizers you can just ditch the plate and use only the pcb.
You can also at a later time use one of the many plates that comes with some of aluminum cases.

you are never stuck. that is why we all bought the gh60. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 13 June 2013, 19:58:43
btw I get paid late tonight/early tomorrow and will be paying the invoice then. sorry for the delay.
Paid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 18 June 2013, 17:52:31
Looking for keys for your upcoming gh60?

[GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/RGBY/Blank Sets
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44912

If you buy a base blank tenkeyless set + blank alternate modifers kit or RGBY kit you will be all set for any layout!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 04:39:26
Looking for keys for your upcoming gh60?

[GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/RGBY/Blank Sets
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44912

If you buy a base blank tenkeyless set + blank alternate modifers kit or RGBY kit you will be all set for any layout!

This would be even cooler if there was a 61-key option;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Wed, 19 June 2013, 05:02:59
What some people here do not realize is that blank sets are dime a dozen however, finding printed ÅÄÖÜ is almost impossible, I'm not that keen on blank nor would I accept half blank - half printed set.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 19 June 2013, 05:07:14
I would actually like some blank DSAs, but if I could just buy 61 for gh60, not more. Most sets are either 104 or 87 keys, then those keys lay around useless...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: vorn on Wed, 19 June 2013, 05:17:16
I would actually like some blank DSAs, but if I could just buy 61 for gh60, not more. Most sets are either 104 or 87 keys, then those keys lay around useless...

I'm all over this DSA DOLCH set with the ISO and RGB add-ons, but would definitely be in for a blank set of PBT DSA keys!

Whenever I see someone supporting ISO I always feel the need to jump on it since it's not always offered in GB's.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: OddOne on Thu, 20 June 2013, 21:04:37
So, I was priding myself on sticking to my guns on layout for my GH60, but now I'm thinking I would like an ANSI/ISO hybrid. So, if anyone has a Universal Iso plate available, I'd happily buy it from you!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 20 June 2013, 22:29:26
Looking for keys for your upcoming gh60?

[GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/RGBY/Blank Sets
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44912

If you buy a base blank tenkeyless set + blank alternate modifers kit or RGBY kit you will be all set for any layout!

This would be even cooler if there was a 61-key option;)
sorry but I had to stick to the tenkeyless kit :(

I would actually like some blank DSAs, but if I could just buy 61 for gh60, not more. Most sets are either 104 or 87 keys, then those keys lay around useless...

I'm all over this DSA DOLCH set with the ISO and RGB add-ons, but would definitely be in for a blank set of PBT DSA keys!

Whenever I see someone supporting ISO I always feel the need to jump on it since it's not always offered in GB's.

I wanted to do PBT but it wouldn't match the primary dolch groupbuy and would be off color.
SP's ABS and PBT Colorways are very different
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: thoere on Sat, 22 June 2013, 09:44:08
Sorry for the major delay, but just paid! I'm so happy. Can't wait to assemble these boards.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: agodinhost on Sat, 22 June 2013, 10:54:23
paid!
thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Qipz on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:24:30
Just wondering, is this GB closed or is it still possible to order?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:25:15
Just wondering, is this GB closed or is it still possible to order?

It's closed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Qipz on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:25:43
Thanks for the fast reply
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 22 June 2013, 14:26:02
Just wondering, is this GB closed or is it still possible to order?

Ordering is over. You can probably get one from the classifieds, after everyone receives theirs. I expect quite a few people either bought too many or will change their mind.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Qipz on Sun, 23 June 2013, 13:49:33
Just wondering, will there be another GH60 group buy in the future? I'd hope so because I like the idea.
Also, is there a keypad that fits with the GH60?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 23 June 2013, 13:51:47
Just wondering, will there be another GH60 group buy in the future? I'd hope so because I like the idea.
Maybe in a year or two. If you want one you should just keep an eye on the classifieds. I'm sure there will be quite a few for sale on there soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Qipz on Sun, 23 June 2013, 13:53:03
Just wondering, will there be another GH60 group buy in the future? I'd hope so because I like the idea.
Maybe in a year or two. If you want one you should just keep an eye on the classifieds. I'm sure there will be quite a few for sale on there soon.
Hmm I will keep an eye there, thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 23 June 2013, 14:08:15
Got 55 people left to pay and a week for them to do it in.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 23 June 2013, 14:42:00
Got 55 people left to pay and a week for them to do it in.

Wow, that many!?!?!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 23 June 2013, 14:43:55
Got 55 people left to pay and a week for them to do it in.

Wow, that many!?!?!


10% drop out seems to be the norm for GB. Some times less, some times more, but the average seems to be around 10%
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Noko on Sun, 23 June 2013, 15:05:46
I'm waiting for payday this week, so hopefully many of that 55 are in a similar position.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: oluf on Sun, 23 June 2013, 15:06:07
Just wondering, will there be another GH60 group buy in the future? I'd hope so because I like the idea.
Also, is there a keypad that fits with the GH60?

You may also be interested in..

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38847.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43450.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38963.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Qipz on Sun, 23 June 2013, 16:54:29
Are those dropouts ones that have been ordered already? if so, could I swoop in when they dont pay if there is one that fits my likings?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jabar on Sun, 23 June 2013, 20:20:24
I'm most likely out, can't justify the expense right now.

GH60 full design plate + some switches
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: sth on Sun, 23 June 2013, 20:22:21
dont enter a GB without the money set aside for invoicing people!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: naokira on Sun, 23 June 2013, 22:15:47
I don't know if this is answered, sorry in advance. Can I order in place of the ones who canceled? Though I can't imagine somebody to be the same order as mine :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jalthi on Sun, 23 June 2013, 22:27:18
Is there any possibility of picking up someone's order who ordered but doesn't pay?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: affect656 on Sun, 23 June 2013, 22:31:45
Might be interested in picking up an extra pcb + plate, I have 3 cases and only bought 2 pcb/plates.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nil on Mon, 24 June 2013, 07:41:28
Same question as the last few folks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 June 2013, 08:28:23
To anyone interested in picking up an unpaid order...

This is probably going to happen, once the deadline for payments closes. Since we aren't making any more order changes, orders likely will be listed by contents and will show an invoice price. First come, first served, and expect to pay on-the-spot. The time frame for this will be very short, as in a couple of days max.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 24 June 2013, 08:46:10
That means I'll have to keep my eyes on this thread very closely!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: naokira on Mon, 24 June 2013, 13:25:46
Yeah! hopefully there are some universal iso plates there :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Mon, 24 June 2013, 13:49:18
Praying for a chance to make it into this. I'll check a couple times a day and can pay on the spot. Interested in the whole thing of course but if I could at least get the plate and PCB that would be a huge win for me. Obviously I will build myself. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: oluf on Mon, 24 June 2013, 13:54:02
Praying for a chance to make it into this. I'll check a couple times a day and can pay on the spot. Interested in the whole thing of course but if I could at least get the plate and PCB that would be a huge win for me. Obviously I will build myself. :)

You may want to enable notifications for this thread for the sake of your refresh button! =)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Mon, 24 June 2013, 13:57:34
Praying for a chance to make it into this. I'll check a couple times a day and can pay on the spot. Interested in the whole thing of course but if I could at least get the plate and PCB that would be a huge win for me. Obviously I will build myself. :)

You may want to enable notifications for this thread for the sake of your refresh button! =)

Hence the fast reply  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:34:33
Well, there are still 6 days from now until the payment deadline, so F5-ing now would seem a bit premature. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:36:05
Well, there are still 6 days from now until the payment deadline, so F5-ing now would seem a bit premature. :)

But won't it boost the forum page views!! F5 FTW!! ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:38:53
Well, there are still 6 days from now until the payment deadline, so F5-ing now would seem a bit premature. :)

But won't it boost the forum page views!! F5 FTW!! ;)
Ray's new spam tactic : Spam views.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:43:17
"BE STEADFAST IN THE FAITH AND DILIGENT IN PRAYER!! YOU MUST BELIEVE!! LET THE POSITIVE ENERGY FLOW!!!" (Read like a red faced preacher during a sermon.)

 ^-^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: boost on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:45:36
I paid my invoice as I completely forgot about it. )_)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: precarious on Mon, 24 June 2013, 16:27:15
dont enter a GB without the money set aside for invoicing people!!!

don't lose your job for no reason at the behest of your former employer's willingness to violate various federal laws hururhru

also, i thought i paid this the other night, but i guess i didn't or it didn't go through or some such.  just paid (hopefully not) again.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 June 2013, 16:37:53
dont enter a GB without the money set aside for invoicing people!!!

don't lose your job for no reason at the behest of your former employer's willingness to violate various federal laws hururhru

If this happened to you, I empathize with your situation, and wish you better luck.

However, if you (anyone) can't pay, please let us know so we can cancel your order. Why wait until the last minute and make us drop it, when we could proceed with ordering switches, stabilizers, PCBs, etc.? You just hold things up for everyone else when you simply don't pay and don't communicate with the organizers. This is true for all GBs, not just this one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: korne on Mon, 24 June 2013, 16:57:12
Paid
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Winther on Mon, 24 June 2013, 18:12:32
I will be paying in two days, havent forgotten about it! :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jabar on Mon, 24 June 2013, 19:09:41
dont enter a GB without the money set aside for invoicing people!!!
I changed my mind about wanting a custom 60% now that I have an FC660C. Sue me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: bear95 on Mon, 24 June 2013, 19:16:44
dont enter a GB without the money set aside for invoicing people!!!
I changed my mind about wanting a custom 60% now that I have an FC660C. Sue me.

ok
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 24 June 2013, 19:38:30
dont enter a GB without the money set aside for invoicing people!!!
I changed my mind about wanting a custom 60% now that I have an FC660C. Sue me.

And you've told who that's in charge of billing or order organization?


That's the whole point of frustration.  People decide, whenever they decide, to get out of the buy but then don't tell anyone and leave dozens of others in limbo until we can't wait any longer.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jabar on Mon, 24 June 2013, 20:15:10
Well if it's going to be a ****storm since I ****ed up, sure I'll pay for it. I sure hope this doesn't end up like Phantom V2 did.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 24 June 2013, 20:35:53
and the claws are out...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: codyeatworld on Mon, 24 June 2013, 20:46:23
Payment incoming in a few days.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: precarious on Mon, 24 June 2013, 22:07:23
dont enter a GB without the money set aside for invoicing people!!!

don't lose your job for no reason at the behest of your former employer's willingness to violate various federal laws hururhru

If this happened to you, I empathize with your situation, and wish you better luck.

However, if you (anyone) can't pay, please let us know so we can cancel your order. Why wait until the last minute and make us drop it, when we could proceed with ordering switches, stabilizers, PCBs, etc.? You just hold things up for everyone else when you simply don't pay and don't communicate with the organizers. This is true for all GBs, not just this one.

telling people "you have until X date to pay" justifies waiting until before that date to pay
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 June 2013, 22:53:34
Actually, invoice payments were due on the date the invoice was sent. We make allowances for people who may not have the funds to pay right away by setting a hard deadline, beyond which your order will be dropped if not paid. However, a little communication in that regard would be nice. A simple PM saying that you're still in, but need until X date to get the funds together would work. But when it's been several weeks since the invoices went out, and we haven't heard anything from someone regarding an outstanding invoice, we start to think that person simply has no intention of paying and begin to look for other ways to move the GB forward.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 24 June 2013, 23:24:58
Paid.

I know. I'm late.

Sorry.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: limmy on Mon, 24 June 2013, 23:34:58
Paid my invoice. Sorry it was too late.

I didn't understand why shipping cost was so high. But now that I have shipped several international mails myself, I understand.. International shipping costs are so HIGH! I hope USPS don't raise the price again before this group buy is over.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Mon, 24 June 2013, 23:49:34
you are actually not late since the deadline is the 30th.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: netdevil on Tue, 25 June 2013, 06:27:18
Will be paying the invoice at end of the week haven't forgotten this the least bit...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Noko on Tue, 25 June 2013, 08:16:40
Paid.  Apologies for being late, had some unanticipated medical expenses this month.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tgujay on Tue, 25 June 2013, 09:25:48
Since some people are dropping is it too late to add an order and pay for it right away?  I would really like in on this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Winther on Tue, 25 June 2013, 10:07:06
Actually, invoice payments were due on the date the invoice was sent. We make allowances for people who may not have the funds to pay right away by setting a hard deadline, beyond which your order will be dropped if not paid. However, a little communication in that regard would be nice. A simple PM saying that you're still in, but need until X date to get the funds together would work. But when it's been several weeks since the invoices went out, and we haven't heard anything from someone regarding an outstanding invoice, we start to think that person simply has no intention of paying and begin to look for other ways to move the GB forward.

Any chance you could answer if there is a lower shipping rate before I pay the invoice? I wouldnt mind waiting on it a little longer if I can save a little on it..! :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: whiteduck on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:40:49
Since so many people are trying to get in on this that missed out I'd consider letting someone take my order if its cool with WFD.  I already paid the invoice but didn't go forward with buying the switches through deskthority so you'd have to source those yourself.  I'm going to opt for a GH75 when those are released instead of the 60.

my order is:

1 x Costar stabs
1 gh 60 pcb
1 ansi 1.5x plate

<3

-wd
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 25 June 2013, 12:45:18
Since some people are dropping is it too late to add an order and pay for it right away?  I would really like in on this.

We aren't opening this back up for orders. Once the non-paying order drop deadline has passed (June 30), there likely will be some orders available for people wanting in to pick up.


Actually, invoice payments were due on the date the invoice was sent. We make allowances for people who may not have the funds to pay right away by setting a hard deadline, beyond which your order will be dropped if not paid. However, a little communication in that regard would be nice. A simple PM saying that you're still in, but need until X date to get the funds together would work. But when it's been several weeks since the invoices went out, and we haven't heard anything from someone regarding an outstanding invoice, we start to think that person simply has no intention of paying and begin to look for other ways to move the GB forward.

Any chance you could answer if there is a lower shipping rate before I pay the invoice? I wouldnt mind waiting on it a little longer if I can save a little on it..! :)

I would answer if I could. tjcaustin sent out the invoices, so I have no clue what your shipping charge was. And komar007 will be shipping non-US orders from his location in Poland. So I really have no idea.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 25 June 2013, 14:05:15
Actually, invoice payments were due on the date the invoice was sent. We make allowances for people who may not have the funds to pay right away by setting a hard deadline, beyond which your order will be dropped if not paid. However, a little communication in that regard would be nice. A simple PM saying that you're still in, but need until X date to get the funds together would work. But when it's been several weeks since the invoices went out, and we haven't heard anything from someone regarding an outstanding invoice, we start to think that person simply has no intention of paying and begin to look for other ways to move the GB forward.

Any chance you could answer if there is a lower shipping rate before I pay the invoice? I wouldnt mind waiting on it a little longer if I can save a little on it..! :)

Your order contains 2 GH60s and 2 plates. That's close to $100. I just wouldn't risk putting that into an envelope and sending without tracking.
What's your current shipping cost? If it's $18, it really can't be lower.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Winther on Tue, 25 June 2013, 14:21:34
Actually, invoice payments were due on the date the invoice was sent. We make allowances for people who may not have the funds to pay right away by setting a hard deadline, beyond which your order will be dropped if not paid. However, a little communication in that regard would be nice. A simple PM saying that you're still in, but need until X date to get the funds together would work. But when it's been several weeks since the invoices went out, and we haven't heard anything from someone regarding an outstanding invoice, we start to think that person simply has no intention of paying and begin to look for other ways to move the GB forward.

Any chance you could answer if there is a lower shipping rate before I pay the invoice? I wouldnt mind waiting on it a little longer if I can save a little on it..! :)

Your order contains 2 GH60s and 2 plates. That's close to $100. I just wouldn't risk putting that into an envelope and sending without tracking.
What's your current shipping cost? If it's $18, it really can't be lower.

Its 21usd.. just saw someone else having it changed to 5usd but if its a lot of trouble sending out a new invoice with 18usd shipping then I will just pay the one I have now, no problem! :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 25 June 2013, 14:30:08
Then it seems to be a mistake...
I think you could ask tjcaustin why it's so. Apparently one of us made a mistake somewhere.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Winther on Tue, 25 June 2013, 15:02:06
Then it seems to be a mistake...
I think you could ask tjcaustin why it's so. Apparently one of us made a mistake somewhere.

Well if its only 3usd I can save without having it sent without insurance, then I wont bother and just pay the invoice now...? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nil on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:48:30
Since so many people are trying to get in on this that missed out I'd consider letting someone take my order if its cool with WFD.  I already paid the invoice but didn't go forward with buying the switches through deskthority so you'd have to source those yourself.  I'm going to opt for a GH75 when those are released instead of the 60.

my order is:

1 x Costar stabs
1 gh 60 pcb
1 ansi 1.5x plate

<3

-wd

I'd love to take that off your hands if I could add the Assembly Service on top. If someone gives the go ahead, I can order my desired 60x MX Blue switches from deskthority, put that through to be shipped to one of the GH60 distributors, and pay ASAP.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 25 June 2013, 16:54:32
If anyone ordered a PUre plate and decides they don't want it, let me know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: amadews on Tue, 25 June 2013, 17:28:38
hy my name is Georgian and i am from romania i like if anyone have leftover bare PCB and can give it to my i will be happy  i will pay for the bare pcb  and the rest hope to find in my mainboards and what i have if anyone can help my here is a msm id : deletet.file on yahoo
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: miscsubbin on Wed, 26 June 2013, 18:45:29
Will the OP be updated once the PCB is finalized?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 26 June 2013, 19:49:59
I wish these would be finished already. I have everything else I need for these just sitting there, feeling abandoned and homeless.  :'(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 26 June 2013, 20:27:23
I wish these would be finished already. I have everything else I need for these just sitting there, feeling abandoned and homeless.  :'(

same here :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jabar on Wed, 26 June 2013, 21:06:36
I wish these would be finished already. I have everything else I need for these just sitting there, feeling abandoned and homeless.  :'(
Yeah that was the case with my Phantom because it was a huge mess. I really hope that isn't the case here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 26 June 2013, 22:48:45
I wish these would be finished already. I have everything else I need for these just sitting there, feeling abandoned and homeless.  :'(
Yeah that was the case with my Phantom because it was a huge mess. I really hope that isn't the case here.

You had some problem with the Phantom PCB group buy organized by bavman, or maybe the Phantom plate GB organized by WFD?

Group buys are a process, not a sale. These things take time, sometimes several months, to complete. I think I've tried to convey that the timeline for this buy will extend into the third quarter of this year, if not later.

None of the organizers of this GB have disappeared or failed to give status updates, ever. I have a full time job and a family, but I help organize this GB not for my own profit, but for the benefit of this community and its members. I appreciate everyone who has thanked us for doing this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Wed, 26 June 2013, 23:22:31
I'm just happy I was able to get into the process and "join the community." BTW if you need someone to distribute in USA let me know.
I still hope to be able to get a couple more plates somehow. Missing 2 from what I have so far. Even one more would be nice.
Anyone have a source for bulk switches right now? I need to locate more of those. Grays, Blues and Greens.
Next question is I saw a picture of a GH "Extra keys" pad that was separate form your driver. For a Tkey to the right of the mouse or to program with macros. Can someone point me to some info on that?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 26 June 2013, 23:42:44
I put in an order just in case. Let me know if there will be any extras. Depending on the time frame I might buy 3 or 4 total.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Thu, 27 June 2013, 01:04:34
Could someone tell me if the plate from a phantom matches up to this board I realize the differences that are obvious all the other keys and mount holes. I am referring to the switch placements for say the HHK150 from the plate group buy for the phantom.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 27 June 2013, 06:43:53
Could someone tell me if the plate from a phantom matches up to this board I realize the differences that are obvious all the other keys and mount holes. I am referring to the switch placements for say the HHK150 from the plate group buy for the phantom.

Sure, if you're willing to cut the plate down to size and possibly drill holes for the screw locations. The switch holes in the plate will match up to switch locations in the GH60 PCB,

However, if you have a place that can do laser cutting, I can provide you with GH60 plate drawings upon request, for you to have them made locally. Or, The_Beast is sometimes willing to have plates made by his laser cutting guy, you would just have to ask via PM.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nil on Thu, 27 June 2013, 14:28:52
I just want to make this clear since not all the GH60 orders have specified the spacebar wire size. If they're not specified, does the distributor/seller try to obtain the spacebar wire which fits the plate accompanied with the order? For example, I'm paying for whiteduck's order since he's offering it to me instead, and he has on the order:

1 x Costar stabs
1 gh 60 pcb
1 ansi 1.5x plate

I assume this will go along with a 7x spacebar wire? (the length required for the ANSI 1.5x plate I think)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 27 June 2013, 14:56:53
Status update: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg943761#msg943761
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Loligagger on Thu, 27 June 2013, 16:48:15
So would you have to choose between full backlighting and using those extra pins for something like the ghpad?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 27 June 2013, 19:00:31
However, if you have a place that can do laser cutting, I can provide you with GH60 plate drawings upon request, for you to have them made locally. Or, The_Beast is sometimes willing to have plates made by his laser cutting guy, you would just have to ask via PM.

What sort of ballpark price could I expect to pay to have someone make them locally?  $30, $60, $100 (god I hope not)?  I have no idea so I'm just curious.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 27 June 2013, 20:47:51
However, if you have a place that can do laser cutting, I can provide you with GH60 plate drawings upon request, for you to have them made locally. Or, The_Beast is sometimes willing to have plates made by his laser cutting guy, you would just have to ask via PM.

What sort of ballpark price could I expect to pay to have someone make them locally?  $30, $60, $100 (god I hope not)?  I have no idea so I'm just curious.
Probably 100+ for a one off.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 27 June 2013, 21:02:26
$50ish! FO SHO!  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Winther on Thu, 27 June 2013, 21:18:45
Paid..

So the final version will have option for Full LED lighting?! really nice Komar!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 27 June 2013, 23:09:44
However, if you have a place that can do laser cutting, I can provide you with GH60 plate drawings upon request, for you to have them made locally. Or, The_Beast is sometimes willing to have plates made by his laser cutting guy, you would just have to ask via PM.

What sort of ballpark price could I expect to pay to have someone make them locally?  $30, $60, $100 (god I hope not)?  I have no idea so I'm just curious.
Probably 100+ for a one off.

 :eek:  Eeeek!  Well then...    ;D  Guess I'll be sticking with the plates I've already ordered...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 28 June 2013, 01:44:41
So would you have to choose between full backlighting and using those extra pins for something like the ghpad?

Both yes and no. With a bit of clever programming it should be possible to use the 4 GPIO lines both to read the numpad and communicate with the backlight module.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: vorn on Fri, 28 June 2013, 02:37:37
Great work Komar!!

With these new LED options, what's the protocol for updating our preferred configuration if we've chosen to make use of the Assembly Service? I'll obviously wait till the PCB is finalised though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 28 June 2013, 02:58:42
Love the new LED option.  Just wondering, how does it work?  Will we be able to solder in any old through hole resistor to get the appropriate voltage for our LED of choice or will it be an SMD resistor with a set range that we'll have to try and fit in?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 28 June 2013, 06:57:06
The resistors will be on the expansion board, so you'll need only LEDs. I'll try to choose the resistors' value in such a way that the LEDs which require the highest voltage will be acceptably bright, while the more regular ones may be too bright. The actual brightness level can be then set in software by choosing PWM duty cycle.

The above applies to all the LEDs not connected to the controller.
The connected ones (wasd, alt-win-ctrl-shift arrows, escape, fn and caps-lock) will use resistors on board which will come (not soldered) with the board. I'll try to choose their values properly depending on the color of LEDs. I'm not sure if we'll give choice of those 11 LEDs' color yet, but if we do, the resistors will be chosen accordingly.


Great work Komar!!

With these new LED options, what's the protocol for updating our preferred configuration if we've chosen to make use of the Assembly Service? I'll obviously wait till the PCB is finalised though.
We haven't really taken that into account when preparing this group-buy. I'm not sure how much interest there is for soldering LEDs as well, but the expansion boards may not be available before GH60, so this would incur a lot of extra waiting for you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 28 June 2013, 11:27:51
So will they be through hole resistors or SMD?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 28 June 2013, 12:21:21
So will they be through hole resistors or SMD?

i am curious about this as well because i want to go ahead and buy some led's ahead of time for this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 28 June 2013, 16:30:15
that pst looks so bad ass. the black and gold is a real winner.

are there going to be guides to use which switch holes for different layouts? cause i could use a guide.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 28 June 2013, 16:32:17
that pst looks so bad ass. the black and gold is a real winner.

are there going to be guides to use which switch holes for different layouts? cause i could use a guide.

Are you using a plate? They match up with the holes in the PCB when you use a plate. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 28 June 2013, 16:33:15
that pst looks so bad ass. the black and gold is a real winner.

are there going to be guides to use which switch holes for different layouts? cause i could use a guide.

i think it is better if someone posted all the swich positions for the layouts in the wiki or a thread, otherwise the pcb would be all white from all the labeling.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 28 June 2013, 16:34:13
i think it is better if someone posted all the swich positions for the layouts in the wiki or a thread, otherwise the pcb would be all white from all the labeling.

The plate determines the switch position.

And JD, thanks for taking the time out of your busy life to run this and all the other GBs/Projects you do :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 28 June 2013, 16:35:04
i think it is better if someone posted all the swich positions for the layouts in the wiki or a thread, otherwise the pcb would be all white from all the labeling.

The plate determines the switch position.


o.0 what if somebody does not use a plate? uh.....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 28 June 2013, 16:41:14
^ Most people got a plate with a PCB. But if you're one of the new that didn't, then soft mount the switches and keycaps to make sure the cap sizes line up properly before you solder.

Maybe a guide later, but this only applies to a few people.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 28 June 2013, 16:41:53
that pst looks so bad ass. the black and gold is a real winner.

are there going to be guides to use which switch holes for different layouts? cause i could use a guide.

i think it is better if someone posted all the swich positions for the layouts in the wiki or a thread, otherwise the pcb would be all white from all the labeling.

Click the highlighted link in my signature. Look at the OP. First image in there...

(http://i.imgur.com/t24N3vd.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 28 June 2013, 16:42:26
o.0 what if somebody does not use a plate? uh.....

Look at the plate pictures, look at your PCB, then match the switch locations to the PCB?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 28 June 2013, 16:52:48
that pst looks so bad ass. the black and gold is a real winner.

are there going to be guides to use which switch holes for different layouts? cause i could use a guide.

i think it is better if someone posted all the swich positions for the layouts in the wiki or a thread, otherwise the pcb would be all white from all the labeling.

Click the highlighted link in my signature. Look at the OP. First image in there...

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/t24N3vd.png)


o.0 what if somebody does not use a plate? uh.....

Look at the plate pictures, look at your PCB, then match the switch locations to the PCB?



l0l

all I am saying is that it is not needed to print which holes correspond to what layout on the pcb, but whatever you think I meant...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 28 June 2013, 17:04:24
I did the lazy way to prevent myself from making a dumb error on assemble. I put all the keycaps I wanted laid out in the correct order, placed switch inside them, put PCB on top. Solder. No ****ing up, did not have to redo anything.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jabar on Sat, 29 June 2013, 18:58:18
paying this shortly
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: codyeatworld on Sat, 29 June 2013, 21:55:55
Gonna pay for this soon!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 29 June 2013, 22:09:32
Gonna pay for this soon!

As in "within the next 26 hours" soon?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 29 June 2013, 23:09:45
Still hoping that there are some extras after everything is said and done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 29 June 2013, 23:20:45
is that order confirmation sheet up to date? that is a good amount of people unpaid if so  :eek: not a majority though but still.....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 29 June 2013, 23:23:23
is that order confirmation sheet up to date? that is a good amount of people unpaid if so  :eek: not a majority though but still.....

Save one or two that have paid today.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: codyeatworld on Sat, 29 June 2013, 23:32:03
Gonna pay for this soon!

As in "within the next 26 hours" soon?

Yes! Just paid, sorry for being close to the deadline!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: korrelate on Sun, 30 June 2013, 22:40:52
PAYMENT DEADLINE: 06/30/13  >countdown< (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130701T00&p0=137&msg=GH60+Payment+Deadline)


What this is about


GH60 is a community-developed keyboard designed by komar007 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4818), with the original idea by jdcarpe (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17386). This keyboard's form factor is the same size as the KBC Poker or Pure (60% size of a full keyboard, hence the name). Main feature is that it uses the ATmega32u4 controller, which allows for every key to be programmable and a possibility for a custom secondary function layer as well. This single PCB will support many variants of ANSI, ISO, and other custom layouts detailed below.


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Plate

Plates will make your keyboard will feel more solid overall and help disperse some of the typing stress. They’re optional, but most people do prefer it. Each layout will require a different plate. HHKB and winkeyless layouts can use any ANSI or ISO plate with 1.5x modifiers. I designed these so the top switch housing is removable without desoldering, which helps with swapping switches, springs, stems, lubing, or stickering later on. All the plates offered in here are stainless steel. They can be directly dropped in to existing cases. More details on this in the next post.
 
 compatibility:
  • Costar stabilizer
  • PCB-mounted cherry stabilizer
  • Plate-mounted cherry stabilizer
  • Any existing and upcoming 60% case
  • Poker and Pure (must be plates with 1.25x modifier)

 

 Cases
 - Plastic Poker case
 - Plastic Pure case
 - Imsto aluminum tray (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35213.0)
 - Oneproduct aluminum case (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29356.0)
 - Treble aluminum tray (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29827.0)
 - Pure’s aluminum CNC (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40814.0)
 - WhiteFireDragon’s design (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39599.0)
 - The_Beast’s design (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39787.0)
 - alixinhzai's acrylic case (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40468.0)
 
 
 
 Assembly
 The PCBs will come with all SMD preassembled, including diodes. Switches and LEDs will require your own soldering. If you’re brave and want to do the SMD soldering yourself, PCB and a bag of SMT components will be cheaper. There will be options for assembly service if you cannot build it yourself.
 
 If you’re assembling it yourself, the minimum equipment you’ll need is a Weller WLC-100 (http://goo.gl/okhmk) soldering station/iron and Rosin-core solder (http://goo.gl/lyrcx) (smaller than 0.04" diameter). Although it is doable with cheap $15 irons, that’s not recommended. In addition to the PCB, you will need the following to complete the build:
  • Switches
  • Stabilizers
  • Case
  • Keycaps
  • Plate (optional)
  • mini-B USB cable.
   
 
 
 Costs
PCB (SMD presoldered) - $28
PCB (DIY, includes SMT components) - $15
bare PCB
(no components) - $6
Plate
- $16
Switches - $0.63
cherry stabilizers - $9
Costar stabilizers - $7
Assembly - $25


The prices listed above is a ballpark now final. PCBs could be a tad lower, depending on quantity at the end, or possibly be a few dollars higher to account for import/VAT taxes or any other unforeseen fees. Same goes with plates and switches, it really depends on how many of each are ordered.
 
 
 
 Ordering
 Deadline to submit order is Monday, 04/22/13, payment deadline is 06/30/13. You’ve been given the payment date almost 2 months in advance, so start planning your budget accordingly! ETA for all parts will be around September if there are no major delays. Switches might take a little longer if you ordered them.
 
 >ORDER FORM< (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1s6QEJLRtw16Xt1WuEps6xWKl4EDLLBxhFx6fSUlIWFE/viewform)

Order confirmation (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing)

>POLL< (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1unUyoHLIoy08OD-eu5l3zANaIjEw2We35CHHrZlFE_4/viewform)
poll results could affect the final PCB, plate, or features. So please vote!

>Order Changes<
 (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform)

 
Quote
Order example from this GB:
-1x GH60 PCB $30
-1x poker plate $16
-1x cherry (plate-mounted) stabilizer set, 6.25x spacbar wire $9
-63x MX red switches $38 (2 extra switch for defectives or broken pins)
-assembly service $25
 total $113

You'll still need to source the following for a complete keyboard:
-1x case
-1x USB cable
-1x keycap set

 
Logistics
 Komar designed and will have the PCBs made, I designed and will have the plates made. Jdcarpe and I will manage orders, but all of us will have access to the spreadsheets. Jdcarpe and I will handle US and Canada assembly and distributions, komar will assemble and distribute for EU and the rest of the world (unless you have a personal request or already have prior arrangements). Main reason is because it’s no longer cheap to ship international from the US. Switches are from 7bit. Tjcaustin will collect money and invoice.

 Misc links

 IC thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.0)
 Prototyping (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.0)
 Further feature development (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40514.0)
 


This has to be one of the most thoroughly planned and well-documented I've ever seen. Granted, I've only been on GH for a few months, but I've read quite a few of these, and I have to say that this seriously sets the bar high. I love that you guys even went so far as to post instructions (not just a link) for progamming the controller. Just amazing attention to detail here. If you guys ever get together and run an 84ish-key pcb I would consider it a privilege to be a part of it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 July 2013, 12:00:51
Payment deadline has passed. If you haven't paid by now, consider your order canceled.

Open invoice orders are now posted for sale.

Here are the orders for sale. If you want to take over an order, post here in the thread with the row number from the spreadsheet. We will contact you for your info and to send an invoice. Payment will be expected immediately. Thanks! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj13Z1f7GUuzdGY0WlF1SjRkZ0VOVVpUMzV5bjg4dWc&usp=sharing
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: naokira on Mon, 01 July 2013, 12:40:56
I'm interested on order 12, but can I change somethings there? like the switches and stabs perhaps?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 01 July 2013, 12:46:57
I'm interested on order 12, but can I change somethings there? like the switches and stabs perhaps?

I don't think you can change things. Otherwise they'd simply reopen the group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: naokira on Mon, 01 July 2013, 12:52:32
I'm interested on order 12, but can I change somethings there? like the switches and stabs perhaps?

I don't think you can change things. Otherwise they'd simply reopen the group buy.

Even just subtracting items and change the stabs? :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Mon, 01 July 2013, 12:55:06
17,27,33 if available
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Thechemist on Mon, 01 July 2013, 12:56:59
Sent pm regarding #36.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Goodfella on Mon, 01 July 2013, 12:59:57
Payment deadline has passed. If you haven't paid by now, consider your order canceled.

Open invoice orders are now posted for sale.

Here are the orders for sale. If you want to take over an order, post here in the thread with the row number from the spreadsheet. We will contact you for your info and to send an invoice. Payment will be expected immediately. Thanks! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj13Z1f7GUuzdGY0WlF1SjRkZ0VOVVpUMzV5bjg4dWc&usp=sharing

Given recent events I am out a poker pcb and plate, what would be the cheapest way to reproduce that from one of the remaining orders? I don't have time to review everything there, but that is what I would like to do if someone could help me out. Thank you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: osxoep on Mon, 01 July 2013, 13:01:24
Interested in 19, 21, 7 or 2.
In that order of preference and I'd only like to pick up one of them.

edit: Goodfella might appreciate 7 though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Mon, 01 July 2013, 13:03:19
Payment deadline has passed. If you haven't paid by now, consider your order canceled.

Open invoice orders are now posted for sale.

Here are the orders for sale. If you want to take over an order, post here in the thread with the row number from the spreadsheet. We will contact you for your info and to send an invoice. Payment will be expected immediately. Thanks! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj13Z1f7GUuzdGY0WlF1SjRkZ0VOVVpUMzV5bjg4dWc&usp=sharing

Given recent events I am out a poker pcb and plate, what would be the cheapest way to reproduce that from one of the remaining orders? I don't have time to review everything there, but that is what I would like to do if someone could help me out. Thank you.

#7 is a built pcb and a poker plate with costar stabs
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 July 2013, 13:18:31
I'm interested on order 12, but can I change somethings there? like the switches and stabs perhaps?

I don't think you can change things. Otherwise they'd simply reopen the group buy.

Even just subtracting items and change the stabs? :(

Yeah, at this point we just want to sell complete orders. We aren't letting anyone else change their order, so it wouldn't be fair to change these.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: naokira on Mon, 01 July 2013, 13:22:03
I'm interested on order 12, but can I change somethings there? like the switches and stabs perhaps?

I don't think you can change things. Otherwise they'd simply reopen the group buy.

Even just subtracting items and change the stabs? :(

Yeah, at this point we just want to sell complete orders. We aren't letting anyone else change their order, so it wouldn't be fair to change these.

So I guess I'll just wait for the next round :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Poom on Mon, 01 July 2013, 14:01:42
PMed about order 7, hope its to the right person.

Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 01 July 2013, 14:16:28
if it's still available, I'll take #2
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 01 July 2013, 14:17:26
As a newcomer to mechanical keyboards I'm kind of lost in that list, is there one that would get me a full set? minus the case, etc.

Edit; With assembly
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 01 July 2013, 14:22:47
As a newcomer to mechanical keyboards I'm kind of lost in that list, is there one that would get me a full set? minus the case, etc.

Edit; With assembly

Each one except for #2, #4, #36 gives you at least one full set without the switches and stabilizers. You just have to search for the one which contains a plate with the layout you like and a set of switches and stabilizers. For example #6 gives you the soldered PCB with a Poker plate, a set of switches (clear) and stabs. The stabilizers in this case are PCB-mounted, not plate, so probably it's not the best option, but it gives an example.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Thechemist on Mon, 01 July 2013, 14:25:05
As a newcomer to mechanical keyboards I'm kind of lost in that list, is there one that would get me a full set? minus the case, etc.

Edit; With assembly

#12 would get you an ISO plate ( which would suit you since you're in EU ) it comes with brown switches, cherry plate mount stabilizers and assembly service. All you would need is a case for a complete keyboard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 01 July 2013, 14:28:46
Well in that case I'm very interested in #12; but not sure about the LED's, but afaik those arnt a part of the order so that wouldnt be a problem right
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pscottwi on Mon, 01 July 2013, 15:01:52
I'd like #31 if still available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Goodfella on Mon, 01 July 2013, 15:22:36
It looks like 7 would be best for me? It comes with costar stabilizers which are fine with me, I prefer cherry, but it makes little difference.

Besides the actual switches, this is all I would need to make it work? Is anyone else offering a service to solder the switches/plate/pcb together??

Unfortunately with the loss of one of our great board members, he happened to be in possession of my poker/plate/led's before that horrible accident. Simply trying to replace those small items and move forward  :(

thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pexon on Mon, 01 July 2013, 15:24:13
Interested in 3-4 DIY kits if still available
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Mon, 01 July 2013, 15:38:39
I've done a few SMD in the past but out of practice since getting my new station. I would be willing to help if the GB needed it for assembly from a post-SMD state. If those that run this wanted to engage me to help, obviously PM me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 July 2013, 16:07:13
It looks like 7 would be best for me? It comes with costar stabilizers which are fine with me, I prefer cherry, but it makes little difference.

Besides the actual switches, this is all I would need to make it work? Is anyone else offering a service to solder the switches/plate/pcb together??

Unfortunately with the loss of one of our great board members, he happened to be in possession of my poker/plate/led's before that horrible accident. Simply trying to replace those small items and move forward  :(

thanks.

I'm sure once the chaos has settled and the family has had time to grieve, we will be able to get your Poker parts back. I will assemble it free of charge in remembrance of my friend.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jabar on Mon, 01 July 2013, 16:07:58
Payment deadline has passed. If you haven't paid by now, consider your order canceled.
you didn't remove my paid order from that list
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 01 July 2013, 16:13:09
Payment deadline has passed. If you haven't paid by now, consider your order canceled.
you didn't remove my paid order from that list

That was my fault as I was asleep and hadn't updated orders yet.  You're fine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: OddOne on Mon, 01 July 2013, 16:56:05
I'm interested in number 2 if it is still available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 01 July 2013, 17:05:28
For those that have PM'ed me to pick up unpaid orders or changing orders BEFORE the payment deadline, I'm sorry but I can't honor those. It wouldn't be fair for everyone else.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Goodfella on Mon, 01 July 2013, 17:19:05
It looks like 7 would be best for me? It comes with costar stabilizers which are fine with me, I prefer cherry, but it makes little difference.

Besides the actual switches, this is all I would need to make it work? Is anyone else offering a service to solder the switches/plate/pcb together??

Unfortunately with the loss of one of our great board members, he happened to be in possession of my poker/plate/led's before that horrible accident. Simply trying to replace those small items and move forward  :(

thanks.

I'm sure once the chaos has settled and the family has had time to grieve, we will be able to get your Poker parts back. I will assemble it free of charge in remembrance of my friend.

Thank you for your generous offer.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Poom on Mon, 01 July 2013, 17:34:51
paid sir!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Flamingchook on Mon, 01 July 2013, 20:11:11
I will take number 23 if it's still available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 01 July 2013, 20:26:01
21 if available


doh meant 22...stupid phone.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Mon, 01 July 2013, 20:26:57
if in the end nobody (who has not yet gotten a gh60) takes #34 I would like to combine it with my existing order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 01 July 2013, 22:16:33
I will pay for #10.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 02 July 2013, 11:19:39
I will grab 9 or 10 and add it to my order if no one is interested. I would prefer it go to someone who really wanted to get in this but missed the deadline.

but if no one steps up i will take it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 02 July 2013, 13:36:16
Paid
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: osxoep on Tue, 02 July 2013, 13:39:46
Just a question, I have a GH60 order already will the extra one be sent separately (with the extra postage)?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:19:57
If anybody want's to split an order or has ordered something he doesn't want anymore, I would be very interested in one of the following combinations:

GH60 PCB + poker or universal ansi plate + stabs
Pure or universal ansi plate + stabs

#29 is similar, but I have no need for a SWK plate and extra stabilizers.


See page 75, I got a different order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:21:33
I will pay for #10.

paid
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:30:12
if in the end nobody (who has not yet gotten a gh60) takes #34 I would like to combine it with my existing order.

so if nobody takes #34 at the end of the day I will pay for it :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:58:55
17,27,33 if available

jabar got his 33 - glad it was cleared up :)

Paid for the other 2 just now.

I will need to purchase stabilizers and wires. Anyone know a source ATM?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 02 July 2013, 15:03:07
17,27,33 if available

jabar got his 33 - glad it was cleared up :)

Paid for the other 2 just now.

I will need to purchase stabilizers and wires. Anyone know a source ATM?

for cherry stabs contact wfd
costar go to wasd
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 02 July 2013, 15:06:58
Mouser has Cherry plate mount stabs in stock, but only with 2x wires. Part number G99-0224. Each is for one switch, so if you have 5 stabilized switches as in a Poker, you need to order 5 qty.

You'll have to source spacebar wires. :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 02 July 2013, 15:20:29
Mouser has Cherry plate mount stabs in stock, but only with 2x wires. Part number G99-0224. Each is for one switch, so if you have 5 stabilized switches as in a Poker, you need to order 5 qty.

You'll have to source spacebar wires. :(

Now that you brought that up, have you any idea where to source cherry 6.0 wires? Apart from old cherries?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 02 July 2013, 15:21:58
Mouser has Cherry plate mount stabs in stock, but only with 2x wires. Part number G99-0224. Each is for one switch, so if you have 5 stabilized switches as in a Poker, you need to order 5 qty.

You'll have to source spacebar wires. :(

Now that you brought that up, have you any idea where to source cherry 6.0 wires? Apart from old cherries?

Nope. I get 10x spacebar wires from old WYSE boards and bend them myself. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 02 July 2013, 16:06:50
So, I bought the 1.25 iso plate, what else will I need to have a complete keyboard?
Case, USB cable & keycaps right?
Where can I get those, also I'd like to buy blank keycaps, do I need to look at anything in order to make sure I get some that match my switches?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 02 July 2013, 16:14:59
So, I bought the 1.25 iso plate, what else will I need to have a complete keyboard?
Case, USB cable & keycaps right?
Where can I get those, also I'd like to buy blank keycaps, do I need to look at anything in order to make sure I get some that match my switches?

At least pexon and paranoid sell wires in europe, cases you can find in the op and keycaps, and well what comes to key caps there are group buys all the time and there are also quite a few vendors who sell ready key cap sets.

1.25 is the more common modifier size but still you'll have to make sure the caps you want have 1.25 unit mods and 6.25 spacebar
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 02 July 2013, 16:18:31
At least pexon and paranoid sell wires in europe, cases you can find in the op and keycaps, and well what comes to key caps there are group buys all the time and there are also quite a few vendors who sell ready key cap sets.

1.25 is the more common modifier size but still you'll have to make sure the caps you want have 1.25 unit mods and 6.25 spacebar
Thanks for the quick reply.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 July 2013, 16:29:51
So, I bought the 1.25 iso plate, what else will I need to have a complete keyboard?
Case, USB cable & keycaps right?
Where can I get those, also I'd like to buy blank keycaps, do I need to look at anything in order to make sure I get some that match my switches?

There are a couple community designed cases in the works, including metal and acrylic cases, and sometimes a Poker or Pure case pops up in the classifieds.

For USB cables, Paranoid and Pexon are EU/UK based and TJCaustin (Mimic cables) and I are U.S. based.  I can ship to Europe and I believe TJ will as well.

Blank key caps can be gotten from many places with for standard layout.  Check out WASDkeyboards if you want something super cheap, there's some stuff on eBay, there's Signature Plastics,  there are group buys, you have people like Feng who have their own webstores, and, if you're feeling adventurous, you can check out Taobao.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 02 July 2013, 16:40:10
TJ got it sorted! Thanks! Paid!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Tue, 02 July 2013, 16:40:42
Mouser has Cherry plate mount stabs in stock, but only with 2x wires. Part number G99-0224. Each is for one switch, so if you have 5 stabilized switches as in a Poker, you need to order 5 qty.

You'll have to source spacebar wires. :(

So for a Pure I would need 4 sets of cherry stabs, 3 wires 2x, 1 wire for 6.25x spacebar? I don't understand the wires. Looking at the plate it looks like the stab placement is the same for 3 keys but I know the keys are not all the same size.
For the GH60 just one set of cherry stabs with 1 wire for a 6.25x spacebar?
Sorry this is the new part for me. Is there a wiki that explains how to determine that so I would not have to ask basic questions that might annoy? Thanks for the guidance.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 02 July 2013, 16:47:12
So for a Pure I would need 4 sets of cherry stabs, 3 wires 2x, 1 wire for 6.25x spacebar?

Correct.

I don't understand the wires. Looking at the plate it looks like the stab placement is the same for 3 keys but I know the keys are not all the same size.

The stab inserts are molded in the same place on all these keycaps, whether 2.00, 2.25, or 2.75.

For the GH60 just one set of cherry stabs with 1 wire for a 6.25x spacebar?

Correct. You've got it! :)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 02 July 2013, 23:32:21
well, since I haven't seen anybody who wants #34 here I will take it combined with my order (do you need my paypal again or can you look it up since it will be the same)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Flamingchook on Wed, 03 July 2013, 01:10:35
I requested 23 yesterday but I haven't been contacted yet for payment... Has it already been taken?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 03 July 2013, 02:48:54
I requested 23 yesterday but I haven't been contacted yet for payment... Has it already been taken?
Give it a day or so. JD and WFD are no doubt getting hammered with PM about this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: dzreams on Wed, 03 July 2013, 16:18:58
I'm interested in row number 10, namely the one that sums to $44.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 03 July 2013, 16:26:55
I'm interested in row number 10, namely the one that sums to $44.

neverputyouremailonaforum@gmail.com.

you seriously should remove that email before the bots get you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 03 July 2013, 16:55:58
I'll take order #32 (PCB and two plates). Any way I could get a Cherry PCB mounted stabs package with that would be nice.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:06:54
I'm interested in row number 10, namely the one that sums to $44.


i already paid for this and it is not updated on the spreadsheet
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:10:20
I'm interested in row number 10, namely the one that sums to $44.


i already paid for this and it is not updated on the spreadsheet

FIXED.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:30:18
thanks tj
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:44:20
Can my order be updated as well?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: OddOne on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:54:16
I'm interested in number 2 if it is still available.

Row 2 appears to be row 1 now, but I am still interested!

To be clear this includes the GH60 DIY Kit and Universal Iso Plate.

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:08:41
Ok, I think I have everything caught up and notated
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: dzreams on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:16:06
I'm interested in row number 10, namely the one that sums to $44.

i already paid for this and it is not updated on the spreadsheet

FIXED.
Ok, can I take row 21, summing to $88.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:17:35
Payment deadline has passed. If you haven't paid by now, consider your order canceled.

Open invoice orders are now posted for sale.

Here are the orders for sale. If you want to take over an order, post here in the thread with the row number from the spreadsheet. We will contact you for your info and to send an invoice. Payment will be expected immediately. Thanks! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj13Z1f7GUuzdGY0WlF1SjRkZ0VOVVpUMzV5bjg4dWc&usp=sharing

Need to remove the personal information in this sheet. Keep it but not public.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:37:19
paid for #34

also can yo please hide the address column from public? would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:23:47
Oh no, now the man knows where I live.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:27:21
Oh no, now the man knows where I live.

Is it in Birmingham, Alabama?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:41:32
Oh no, now the man knows where I live.

Is it in Birmingham, Alabama?
LOL
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:45:13
Oh no, now the man knows where I live.

Is it in Birmingham, Alabama?

NOPE

It's Chuck Testa
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jabar on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:48:59
it's really Dougal County, GA
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:21:08
i live in mountlake terrace wa and i am sitting in Elliot bay pizza company in mill creak wa drinking a pint of boulder beer co. 2012 honey of a saison. come join me lol. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:38:40
i live in mountlake terrace wa and i am sitting in Elliot bay pizza company in mill creak wa drinking a pint of boulder beer co. 2012 honey of a saison. come join me lol.
If only!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 03 July 2013, 22:43:15
it's really Dougal County, GA

Haha, yes. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go ride around in my truck boat truck
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 03 July 2013, 22:44:44
it's really Dougal County, GA

Haha, yes. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go ride around in my truck boat truck

Huehuehue
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 04 July 2013, 02:15:01
Jd, my order is only coming with two sets of cherry stabs is that not enough for both my keyboards? I was under the impression one set does one keyboard.  (I've ordered 2). Also do you need wires for the right shift and do they come with the sets?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Thu, 04 July 2013, 02:25:49
Jd, my order is only coming with two sets of cherry stabs is that not enough for both my keyboards? I was under the impression one set does one keyboard.  (I've ordered 2). Also do you need wires for the right shift and do they come with the sets?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828889#msg828889
look at the third picture

1 set is enough for a ansi poker which has 5 stabilized keys ( 2x shift, backspace, enter, spacebar)
all wires are the same except for the spacebar.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 04 July 2013, 02:41:38
Ah so really one set is more than enough for an ISO KB. Thank you for clearing that up, it was just jd's comment at the top of the page got me worried. It did seem a little steep for $9 for one stabilised key.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Flamingchook on Thu, 04 July 2013, 02:43:06
I'll pay for number 5 if it hasn't already been taken.

Edit: Sorry I have to withdraw that :( :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: xauser on Thu, 04 July 2013, 03:31:43
I'll take order 31, thank you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: SelektaM on Thu, 04 July 2013, 03:58:53
I'd like to either take number 14 or -if allready taken- order 29.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: netdevil on Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:27:51
Just curious May I know When would assembly orders be taken, I need to send my clears to the good man who would assemble it for me :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 04 July 2013, 11:58:00
Just curious May I know When would assembly orders be taken, I need to send my clears to the good man who would assemble it for me :)

You were supposed to order assembly with the rest of your parts.  You may still be able to order it and pay for it from the organizers.  If not, there are plenty of people capable of doing it for you, just post in the classifieds or somewhere. Or, you could take some time to learn to solder in the interim.  It's not too hard and makes your keyboard feel that much more personal.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: whiskytango on Fri, 05 July 2013, 00:09:11
At this point, since I cannot edit my order, how could I go about getting a "Universal 10x" plate? It's the last one in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828888#msg828888). Did anyone even order one of these? I know it was special order anyway, so is there a possibility I could special order one?

Or is there a file available for this that I could take to the local shop and have one cut?

Also, does anyone know where to find a Cherry 10x space bar, preferably black?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 05 July 2013, 00:13:48
At this point, since I cannot edit my order, how could I go about getting a "Universal 10x" plate? It's the last one in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828888#msg828888). Did anyone even order one of these? I know it was special order anyway, so is there a possibility I could special order one?

Or is there a file available for this that I could take to the local shop and have one cut?

Also, does anyone know where to find a Cherry 10x space bar, preferably black?

you could look a the order conformation form and see if somebody has one and wants to trade.

the only 10u spacebar I know of are those from WYSE keyboards and they are beige.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 05 July 2013, 03:07:35
At this point, since I cannot edit my order, how could I go about getting a "Universal 10x" plate? It's the last one in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg828888#msg828888). Did anyone even order one of these? I know it was special order anyway, so is there a possibility I could special order one?

Or is there a file available for this that I could take to the local shop and have one cut?

Also, does anyone know where to find a Cherry 10x space bar, preferably black?

also from that post:
10x spacebar - all 1.5x plates has optional mounts for 10x size spacebars.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: netdevil on Fri, 05 July 2013, 07:19:18
Just curious May I know When would assembly orders be taken, I need to send my clears to the good man who would assemble it for me :)

You were supposed to order assembly with the rest of your parts.  You may still be able to order it and pay for it from the organizers.  If not, there are plenty of people capable of doing it for you, just post in the classifieds or somewhere. Or, you could take some time to learn to solder in the interim.  It's not too hard and makes your keyboard feel that much more personal.

Hi nubbinator appreciate your reply  :D I meant when to give the instructions for assembly I did check the option and paid for it. Cheers!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: whiskytango on Fri, 05 July 2013, 08:35:31
@domoaligato, thanks, yes I know that the 1.5 plates have the 10x option. Now I have decided that I would like to also be able to do 1.25-1.25-10-1.25-1.25. It's just something I didn't realize I wanted until after it was too late to change orders. With the 1.5 plate it'll have to be 1.5-1-10-1-1.5, but that requires that you have 1.5 mods which I don't have with all my keycaps sets. Just want more options is all. I have a feeling that if I want one of these plates I'm gonna have to get it cut myself. Just thought I'd ask first.

@gnubag, thanks, but those plates are not listed on the confirmation sheet, or at least I didn't see them. And the wyse spacebars are actually 9.75 I think which will still work but they'll have slight gaps. I'm fairly certain that cherry has made KBs with 10x just not sure which ones
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Goodfella on Fri, 05 July 2013, 08:55:18
I am interested in 25, finding I much prefer plate mount reds to pcb, though I would only really need 1 plate.

What else would be needed to mod my pure to accept this plate? Who does this and how much would something like that cost? Sorry for the noob questions!

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: bernoulli on Fri, 05 July 2013, 23:43:14
I would like to take over order for row# 11  (as is)
Please contact me for invoicing
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 06 July 2013, 02:27:46
Have the boards been printed yet? I think we should print SmallFry name on them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 06 July 2013, 12:57:10
Have the boards been printed yet? I think we should print SmallFry name on them.

i was thinking the same thing, though in the other GH60 thread Komar was saying that he wanted to keep it clean and not put names on it--this was before the terrible news about SmallFry. maybe he would consider it...

Wheee!

 :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 06 July 2013, 13:31:46
Maybe put it on the backside?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 06 July 2013, 13:45:40
Yes, why not. I think that's the only name we should put on it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 06 July 2013, 13:52:33
Good guy komar!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: badcop on Sat, 06 July 2013, 13:58:25
Have the boards been printed yet? I think we should print SmallFry name on them.

that is a great idea.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 06 July 2013, 14:39:17
I have reached out to the people expressing interest in the remaining sets that I haven't billed yet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 06 July 2013, 17:42:43
Yes, why not. I think that's the only name we should put on it.

+9001
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 07 July 2013, 01:57:20
is it possible to trade plates with another order?

if yes does anybody want to trade a GH60 plate (from my order) for a unviversal iso?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Gyokuro on Sun, 07 July 2013, 10:14:18
I will take #2 For $91.95, which has the note:

1 x Costar stabilizers, 6.25x spacebar wire
65 x MX brown switches

Would anyone be willing to trade with me or sell me a set of cherry plate mounted stabs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: JulianFR on Sun, 07 July 2013, 13:20:59
I'm way too late for this GB, will it come again one day ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sun, 07 July 2013, 13:23:46
I'm way too late for this GB, will it come again one day ?
Watch the classifieds when they are done/shipped etc. Very likely there will be a round 2 i would imagine, or at least a gh60 v2. I think there is a gh-75 in the works but i know nothing about it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 07 July 2013, 13:25:25
I'm way too late for this GB, will it come again one day ?

You can try picking up a leftover/abandoned order or wait for the GH60s to come onto the market when they finally ship. I'm sure some people will realize they ordered too much or just not like it for whatever reason. I know for a fact two people are probably going to sell theirs after they build theirs up.

I'm not so sure about a R2 or a V2. I just don't like speculating is all. I'm hoping there will be though since this is awesome :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:18:36
I know this might sound annoying, but how long is it going to take before the shipping starts after all leftovers are sold (or after they get canceled or sth.)? Since this is a huge amount of plates, PCBs and other things to manufacture.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 07 July 2013, 14:58:07
I'm hoping to order the prototypes tomorrow. I should have them in 2 weeks, if everything is OK, in 3 weeks from now I can launch the production of electronics. It should take approximately 5 weeks. So in the best case shipping will start in the middle of September (assuming that production of plates and ordering switches and stabilizers will take shorter than the production of electronics, and it probably will).
In this case I hope some of the participants should get them in the end of September, which is more or less on schedule (+/- 1 month:D).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Poom on Sun, 07 July 2013, 16:30:27
Komar, are you shipping everything to the US first? or how is the distribution going to be? EU stuff ships out via yourself?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 07 July 2013, 16:40:40
There will be 2 sources of distribution. US and Europe. We'll start more or less at the same time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Poom on Sun, 07 July 2013, 16:48:48
There will be 2 sources of distribution. US and Europe. We'll start more or less at the same time.

alright thanks Komar.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 07 July 2013, 22:57:22
Yes, why not. I think that's the only name we should put on it.
Thank you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: JulianFR on Mon, 08 July 2013, 06:02:01
You can try picking up a leftover/abandoned order or wait for the GH60s to come onto the market when they finally ship. I'm sure some people will realize they ordered too much or just not like it for whatever reason. I know for a fact two people are probably going to sell theirs after they build theirs up.

I'm not so sure about a R2 or a V2. I just don't like speculating is all. I'm hoping there will be though since this is awesome :D

I hope somebody is going to leave this GB, or just sell me his GH60 kit !
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Poom on Mon, 08 July 2013, 06:16:01
You can try picking up a leftover/abandoned order or wait for the GH60s to come onto the market when they finally ship. I'm sure some people will realize they ordered too much or just not like it for whatever reason. I know for a fact two people are probably going to sell theirs after they build theirs up.

I'm not so sure about a R2 or a V2. I just don't like speculating is all. I'm hoping there will be though since this is awesome :D

I hope somebody is going to leave this GB, or just sell me his GH60 kit !

Im sure after they received their kits, some might not like it very much and sell it off later, I have an ergodox coming later, if I like it, I might sell all my keyboards and purely stick with the Ergodox.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Mon, 08 July 2013, 10:08:51
You can try picking up a leftover/abandoned order or wait for the GH60s to come onto the market when they finally ship. I'm sure some people will realize they ordered too much or just not like it for whatever reason. I know for a fact two people are probably going to sell theirs after they build theirs up.

I'm not so sure about a R2 or a V2. I just don't like speculating is all. I'm hoping there will be though since this is awesome :D

I hope somebody is going to leave this GB, or just sell me his GH60 kit !

Im sure after they received their kits, some might not like it very much and sell it off later, I have an ergodox coming later, if I like it, I might sell all my keyboards and purely stick with the Ergodox.

You can try picking up a leftover/abandoned order or wait for the GH60s to come onto the market when they finally ship. I'm sure some people will realize they ordered too much or just not like it for whatever reason. I know for a fact two people are probably going to sell theirs after they build theirs up.

I'm not so sure about a R2 or a V2. I just don't like speculating is all. I'm hoping there will be though since this is awesome :D

I hope somebody is going to leave this GB, or just sell me his GH60 kit !

Im sure after they received their kits, some might not like it very much and sell it off later, I have an ergodox coming later, if I like it, I might sell all my keyboards and purely stick with the Ergodox.

I know I will have a couple of boards, switches and plates that will be extra. I'm going to wait until I get everything and then put up for sale what I don't need. I know I have a Pure plate for sure.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Gyokuro on Tue, 09 July 2013, 02:20:07
I will take #2 For $91.95, which has the note:

1 x Costar stabilizers, 6.25x spacebar wire
65 x MX brown switches

Would anyone be willing to trade with me or sell me a set of cherry plate mounted stabs?

I never received a PM or invoice, can I throw money at you, or not? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tgujay on Tue, 09 July 2013, 08:46:47
You can try picking up a leftover/abandoned order or wait for the GH60s to come onto the market when they finally ship. I'm sure some people will realize they ordered too much or just not like it for whatever reason. I know for a fact two people are probably going to sell theirs after they build theirs up.

I'm not so sure about a R2 or a V2. I just don't like speculating is all. I'm hoping there will be though since this is awesome :D

I hope somebody is going to leave this GB, or just sell me his GH60 kit !

Im sure after they received their kits, some might not like it very much and sell it off later, I have an ergodox coming later, if I like it, I might sell all my keyboards and purely stick with the Ergodox.

You can try picking up a leftover/abandoned order or wait for the GH60s to come onto the market when they finally ship. I'm sure some people will realize they ordered too much or just not like it for whatever reason. I know for a fact two people are probably going to sell theirs after they build theirs up.

I'm not so sure about a R2 or a V2. I just don't like speculating is all. I'm hoping there will be though since this is awesome :D

I hope somebody is going to leave this GB, or just sell me his GH60 kit !

Im sure after they received their kits, some might not like it very much and sell it off later, I have an ergodox coming later, if I like it, I might sell all my keyboards and purely stick with the Ergodox.

I know I will have a couple of boards, switches and plates that will be extra. I'm going to wait until I get everything and then put up for sale what I don't need. I know I have a Pure plate for sure.

Interested in a board and Poker or Pure plate if you think of selling any.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Binge on Tue, 09 July 2013, 11:25:49
I've got 1x poker and 1x pure layout GH60 + plate in this.  I'd be willing to give up my spot if you wanted to buy both.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tgujay on Tue, 09 July 2013, 12:04:38
I've got 1x poker and 1x pure layout GH60 + plate in this.  I'd be willing to give up my spot if you wanted to buy both.

Preferential to the poker if you would be willing to just sell that one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Tue, 09 July 2013, 12:24:27
Interested in a board and Poker or Pure plate if you think of selling any.

YGPM

Now  :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 09 July 2013, 12:42:02
All this talk about selling reserved orders got me looking at my order.  I'm pretty sure I specified one of the Universal plates, to support the 10x space-bar option proposed by IvanIvanovich.  But I don't see any plates at all on my order confirmation, just the PCBs.  Am I missing something?

I already have two Poker plates from The_Beast's GB, so I didn't order plates for the other two PCBs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tgujay on Tue, 09 July 2013, 12:46:01
Interested in a board and Poker or Pure plate if you think of selling any.

YGPM

No PM here :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 09 July 2013, 14:48:08
Any extra ISO layout orders available?  Looking for 1.25x or 1.5x layout.  Looking for either an extra order, or if someone else wants to sell theirs...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 09 July 2013, 14:48:53
I wish i had ordered a third..or a sixth or seventh  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 09 July 2013, 15:09:30
Payment deadline has passed. If you haven't paid by now, consider your order canceled.

Open invoice orders are now posted for sale.

Here are the orders for sale. If you want to take over an order, post here in the thread with the row number from the spreadsheet. We will contact you for your info and to send an invoice. Payment will be expected immediately. Thanks! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj13Z1f7GUuzdGY0WlF1SjRkZ0VOVVpUMzV5bjg4dWc&usp=sharing

it looks like we have only 16 orders unclaimed now.
(if the spreadsheet is current) TJ is the man!!!
3,5,6,8,13,15,16,18,20,24,25,26,28,29,30,35
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 09 July 2013, 15:57:29
I will take #26.  I can pay now.  Please send invoice :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Wed, 10 July 2013, 00:40:16
Paid for #26 :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: affect656 on Wed, 10 July 2013, 00:46:16
I think I'll pick up #6
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 10 July 2013, 01:12:58
I would like to take number 15 if it isn't already. PM me for invoicing information if it isn't.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ninjadoc on Thu, 11 July 2013, 16:40:00
I will take #23 if still available. PM sent to tjcaustin
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ninjadoc on Thu, 11 July 2013, 19:57:02
Appears to be order #24 on the latest order form - must have read the line wrong.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: madderoftime on Thu, 11 July 2013, 23:07:11
Question on the switches.
"If you have ordered switches in the GH60 order form, please transfer your order to 7bit and remove your switch order from the form, using the "order changes" form.
If you leave switches in your GH60 order form, we will try to get the switches for you at the end of money collection, but we can't guarantee prices or delivery term, so your GH60 order may be prolonged.
We're sorry for the inconvenience, but it appeared that handling switches doesn't make much sense, since 7bit already has a very good system to do that, and we don't need additional overhead, having enough problems getting GH60s done."
from the 3rd post.
I already have an order paid for the switches here. If it would save you effort we could take the switches off and you could just send the funds for them back. Or should we leave as is? Just let me know what would be best for you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 12 July 2013, 03:13:55
Please leave the switches as they are.
We'll probably use our source for US orders and order from 7bit for the rest of the world anyway, because of taxes.
We'll work it out somehow.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ninjadoc on Fri, 12 July 2013, 12:13:28
Are all orders sold? Interested in a PCB and GH60 plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 12 July 2013, 13:02:25
Are all orders sold? Interested in a PCB and GH60 plate.

see if you can get a order with a universal ansi or universal iso plate

I can trade you my gh60 plate for one of those.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: ninjadoc on Fri, 12 July 2013, 15:07:41
see if you can get a order with a universal ansi or universal iso plate

I can trade you my gh60 plate for one of those.

Wish I had seen this sooner. There was an order that had that that I could have picked up. Sorry.  :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 12 July 2013, 18:31:20
The deadly deadline is midnight between Sunday, 14th and Monday, 15th (CST)


After this time we're closing all leftover orders, so that we can count everything up without stuff changing all the time. There will be no deadline moving any more, so grab the final leftovers and pay until deadline!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Poom on Fri, 12 July 2013, 18:34:47
The deadly deadline is midnight between Sunday, 14th and Monday, 15th (CST)


After this time we're closing all leftover orders, so that we can count everything up without stuff changing all the time. There will be no deadline moving any more, so grab the final leftovers and pay until deadline!

I was going to ask what you just announced. thanks for the update! so now we all can start the patient game!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 12 July 2013, 19:07:52
see if you can get a order with a universal ansi or universal iso plate

I can trade you my gh60 plate for one of those.

Wish I had seen this sooner. There was an order that had that that I could have picked up. Sorry.  :-[

well...


is it possible to trade plates with another order?

if yes does anybody want to trade a GH60 plate (from my order) for a unviversal iso?

whatever if anybody is interested please post here or pm me
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Gyokuro on Sat, 13 July 2013, 02:06:48
The deadly deadline is midnight between Sunday, 14th and Monday, 15th (CST)


After this time we're closing all leftover orders, so that we can count everything up without stuff changing all the time. There will be no deadline moving any more, so grab the final leftovers and pay until deadline!

Sooo... I've already requested #2 several times (the one with the brown switches), but received no pm, invoice, or instructions on paying... Take my money please?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Sat, 13 July 2013, 02:10:38
The deadly deadline is midnight between Sunday, 14th and Monday, 15th (CST)


After this time we're closing all leftover orders, so that we can count everything up without stuff changing all the time. There will be no deadline moving any more, so grab the final leftovers and pay until deadline!

Sooo... I've already requested #2 several times (the one with the brown switches), but received no pm, invoice, or instructions on paying... Take my money please?

#2 is gone btw. and there is no order with brown switches available  except for #18 and #20
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: mauri on Sat, 13 July 2013, 12:27:20
What was the USB needed? Was it mini B? So http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pink-USB-2-0-Coiled-Cable-Type-mini-B-/330943028263?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0dbddc27 this kind of cable shud do the trick?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 13 July 2013, 13:11:01
Yes
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 13 July 2013, 13:40:30
I haven't heard back from anyone on order 15. If it is available I will take that one and I can pay today.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 13 July 2013, 14:21:53
I wrote your name on the spreadsheet, I hope nobody else wanted it earlier, but I didn't notice anyone, so you should be fine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: bupsthename on Sat, 13 July 2013, 14:25:38
Interested in order #8. PM sent to tj. Hopefully it's not claimed as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 14 July 2013, 10:24:17
can we remove assembly from the unclaimed?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 14 July 2013, 10:40:48
can we remove assembly from the unclaimed?
You mean you want to buy a leftover set but without assembly? I don't mind that. Less work for me;)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 14 July 2013, 10:51:42
can we remove assembly from the unclaimed?
You mean you want to buy a leftover set but without assembly? I don't mind that. Less work for me;)

I'll take over #13 if you can remove assembly service.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 14 July 2013, 12:11:10
can we remove assembly from the unclaimed?
You mean you want to buy a leftover set but without assembly? I don't mind that. Less work for me;)

I'll take over #13 if you can remove assembly service.

Just send a PM to tjcaustin. He should be able to invoice you for it. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 14 July 2013, 12:13:39
actually I don't understand what the assembly service is for in that order...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 14 July 2013, 13:56:17
But order #13 says "NO ASSEMBLY". Or has this just changed?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 14 July 2013, 13:57:51
No order changes.

Muhuhuhahaha

Additionally, paypal info is needed poste haste
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 14 July 2013, 13:59:38
But order #13 says "NO ASSEMBLY". Or has this just changed?

there's 1 quantity of "assembly service" in the order. Anyway if I can't change the order, no problem. Maybe I'll get it in round 2 :)

cheers!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 14 July 2013, 14:05:50
But order #13 says "NO ASSEMBLY". Or has this just changed?

there's 1 quantity of "assembly service" in the order. Anyway if I can't change the order, no problem. Maybe I'll get it in round 2 :)

cheers!

Note both the muhuhuhaha and the plea for your paypal information.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 14 July 2013, 15:07:43
But order #13 says "NO ASSEMBLY". Or has this just changed?

there's 1 quantity of "assembly service" in the order. Anyway if I can't change the order, no problem. Maybe I'll get it in round 2 :)

cheers!
Okay, now I get it. It's just specified which board to assemble and which not. Anyway, if tjcaustin doesn't mind changing, I don't mind not assembling.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Gyokuro on Mon, 15 July 2013, 09:03:12
The deadly deadline is midnight between Sunday, 14th and Monday, 15th (CST)


After this time we're closing all leftover orders, so that we can count everything up without stuff changing all the time. There will be no deadline moving any more, so grab the final leftovers and pay until deadline!

Sooo... I've already requested #2 several times (the one with the brown switches), but received no pm, invoice, or instructions on paying... Take my money please?

#2 is gone btw. and there is no order with brown switches available  except for #18 and #20

Is mine somehow sorted differently??? I've refreshed several times. #18 and #20 are:
18
1x PCB-mounted Cherry Stabilizers 6.25
65x MX Green
2x MX Grey
2x MX White
2x MX Clear   $82.21      

And

20 is N/A.

I was afraid this would happen, which is why I specifically posted the exact text in my original request, which was the one that said:


2
1 x Costar stabilizers, 6.25x spacebar wire
65 x MX brown switches   $91.95      

And was why I mentioned that, and it does not say "SOLD" on the spreadsheet.
Did the mod just look at the row and assume I made a mistake? Why didn't I get a PM at least telling me that two weeks ago? I'm a bit upset.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: josh on Mon, 15 July 2013, 09:19:54
when the PCBs be shipped? thx!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: osxoep on Mon, 15 July 2013, 09:26:47
Is mine somehow sorted differently??? I've refreshed several times. #18 and #20 are:
I was afraid this would happen, which is why I specifically posted the exact text in my original request, which was the one that said:
And was why I mentioned that, and it does not say "SOLD" on the spreadsheet.
Did the mod just look at the row and assume I made a mistake? Why didn't I get a PM at least telling me that two weeks ago? I'm a bit upset.

Order 2 was:   1x DIY GH60 PCB, 1x Universal ISO plate = $31
Order 18 was: 1x GH60 PCB, 1x Pure plate, 1x Costar Stabs (6.25x space bar wire), 65x Brown Switch = $91.95
Order 20 was: 2x GH60 PCB, 1x Poker plate, 1x "true" HHKB plate, 1x Cherry PCB Stabs, 1x Cherry Plate stabs, 65x Green Switches, 65x Brown Switches = $243.10
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Gyokuro on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:26:25
Is mine somehow sorted differently??? I've refreshed several times. #18 and #20 are:
I was afraid this would happen, which is why I specifically posted the exact text in my original request, which was the one that said:
And was why I mentioned that, and it does not say "SOLD" on the spreadsheet.
Did the mod just look at the row and assume I made a mistake? Why didn't I get a PM at least telling me that two weeks ago? I'm a bit upset.

Order 2 was:   1x DIY GH60 PCB, 1x Universal ISO plate = $31
Order 18 was: 1x GH60 PCB, 1x Pure plate, 1x Costar Stabs (6.25x space bar wire), 65x Brown Switch = $91.95
Order 20 was: 2x GH60 PCB, 1x Poker plate, 1x "true" HHKB plate, 1x Cherry PCB Stabs, 1x Cherry Plate stabs, 65x Green Switches, 65x Brown Switches = $243.10

Ok, so apparently it was sorted wrong and I actually wanted order #18. If it is still possible, I will take it and pay for it today (one of the OPs please PM me), otherwise c'est la vis I guess.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 15 July 2013, 17:36:17
Is mine somehow sorted differently??? I've refreshed several times. #18 and #20 are:
I was afraid this would happen, which is why I specifically posted the exact text in my original request, which was the one that said:
And was why I mentioned that, and it does not say "SOLD" on the spreadsheet.
Did the mod just look at the row and assume I made a mistake? Why didn't I get a PM at least telling me that two weeks ago? I'm a bit upset.

Order 2 was:   1x DIY GH60 PCB, 1x Universal ISO plate = $31
Order 18 was: 1x GH60 PCB, 1x Pure plate, 1x Costar Stabs (6.25x space bar wire), 65x Brown Switch = $91.95
Order 20 was: 2x GH60 PCB, 1x Poker plate, 1x "true" HHKB plate, 1x Cherry PCB Stabs, 1x Cherry Plate stabs, 65x Green Switches, 65x Brown Switches = $243.10

Ok, so apparently it was sorted wrong and I actually wanted order #18. If it is still possible, I will take it and pay for it today (one of the OPs please PM me), otherwise c'est la vis I guess.

You could PM me your paypal address :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 17 July 2013, 09:25:33
PM sent to tjcaustin
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: badcop on Wed, 17 July 2013, 09:27:52
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE they are in production.  i'm like a little school girl.  So excited!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 17 July 2013, 09:45:37
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE they are in production.  i'm like a little school girl.  So excited!!!

Who will tell that little girl it's just prototypes and she's not getting one?:P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Poom on Wed, 17 July 2013, 09:54:42
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE they are in production.  i'm like a little school girl.  So excited!!!

Sorry to disappoint but its the prototypes that is in production not the one(s) you are getting!  :cool:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: badcop on Wed, 17 July 2013, 09:55:12
you guys suck :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 17 July 2013, 09:56:20
you guys suck :(

But once the prototypes are done, and the fab proves that their production meets our needs, the production boards will be ordered!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Poom on Wed, 17 July 2013, 09:59:36
you guys suck :(

But once the prototypes are done, and the fab proves that their production meets our needs, the production boards will be ordered!

how long does it take to make the prototypes and also how long for the actual production?

by the way, it would be great if someone can give us (expected) time line of when everything is going to be like, prototype, production, shipping, etc.... so we all can start counting the days!!!  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 17 July 2013, 10:00:08
you guys suck :(

But once the prototypes are done, and the fab proves that their production meets our needs, the production boards will be ordered!

Prototypes are good because we don't all want to end up with something not living up to the name GH60!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 17 July 2013, 10:02:26
you guys suck :(

But once the prototypes are done, and the fab proves that their production meets our needs, the production boards will be ordered!

how long does it take to make the prototypes and also how long for the actual production?

by the way, it would be great if someone can give us (expected) time line of when everything is going to be like, prototype, production, shipping, etc.... so we all can start counting the days!!!  ;D

When we know something, you will know something. ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: Gyokuro on Wed, 17 July 2013, 10:02:52

You could PM me your paypal address :P

Thanks for your help Tj, sorry I blew my top a little. I forgot you were a scholar and a gentleman sir.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Poom on Wed, 17 July 2013, 10:04:00
you guys suck :(

But once the prototypes are done, and the fab proves that their production meets our needs, the production boards will be ordered!

how long does it take to make the prototypes and also how long for the actual production?

by the way, it would be great if someone can give us (expected) time line of when everything is going to be like, prototype, production, shipping, etc.... so we all can start counting the days!!!  ;D

When we know something, you will know something. ;D

Uh... I love the suspense of this!  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 17 July 2013, 10:13:56
you guys suck :(

But once the prototypes are done, and the fab proves that their production meets our needs, the production boards will be ordered!

how long does it take to make the prototypes and also how long for the actual production?

by the way, it would be great if someone can give us (expected) time line of when everything is going to be like, prototype, production, shipping, etc.... so we all can start counting the days!!!  ;D

When we know something, you will know something. ;D

What is the fate of all the prototypes...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 17 July 2013, 10:17:35
you guys suck :(

But once the prototypes are done, and the fab proves that their production meets our needs, the production boards will be ordered!

how long does it take to make the prototypes and also how long for the actual production?

by the way, it would be great if someone can give us (expected) time line of when everything is going to be like, prototype, production, shipping, etc.... so we all can start counting the days!!!  ;D

When we know something, you will know something. ;D

What is the fate of all the prototypes...

I think they will be symbolically burned once they are confirmed to be adequate.

Just kidding.....I believe they will go to people who are making the final decisions on them meeting the standards/needs and where they go from there is probably up to those individuals.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Poom on Wed, 17 July 2013, 10:27:24
but wait, i just remembered one video on youtube from WhiteFireDragon showing the GH60 prototypes, therewere 10 of them or something and he even showed us how to solder SMDs and stuff, what were them for?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 July 2013, 10:31:19
Those were the initial prototypes, but there has been some design change so need another prototypes to make 100% everything is working as expected. I have been enjoying mine for some time, but am still excited for the new revision with some WASD led action and looking forward to building ISO and JISlike versions.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 17 July 2013, 11:02:08
This round of prototypes are closed. The GB organizers and perhaps a few case designers are the only ones who will be receiving them. This round is more to make sure the final PCB revision is correct, but also to test the capabilities of the fab house, making sure that their pick-and-place process is what we desire.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: aj-kun on Wed, 17 July 2013, 11:08:20
how do I get into this GH 60 goodness?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 17 July 2013, 11:16:23
how do I get into this GH 60 goodness?

read the topic title, the OP, and the recent posts, this is in production and sales are over.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 17 July 2013, 11:19:14
This round of prototypes are closed. The GB organizers and perhaps a few case designers are the only ones who will be receiving them. This round is more to make sure the final PCB revision is correct, but also to test the capabilities of the fab house, making sure that their pick-and-place process is what we desire.

I meant after testing, I imagine you guys with a stack of prototype GH60's haha.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 17 July 2013, 11:21:39
This round of prototypes are closed. The GB organizers and perhaps a few case designers are the only ones who will be receiving them. This round is more to make sure the final PCB revision is correct, but also to test the capabilities of the fab house, making sure that their pick-and-place process is what we desire.

I meant after testing, I imagine you guys with a stack of prototype GH60's haha.

Why would we waste time and money to order "stacks" of GH60 prototypes? Think 10 or less, total.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 17 July 2013, 11:23:29
Those were the initial prototypes, but there has been some design change so need another prototypes to make 100% everything is working as expected. I have been enjoying mine for some time, but am still excited for the new revision with some WASD led action and looking forward to building ISO and JISlike versions.

I'm jealous. You already have one! ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 17 July 2013, 11:23:49
The new prototypes are probably going to the main dudes dealing with this group buy, so that they can make sure the pcbs are working as intended :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 17 July 2013, 12:55:59
And after those of us who ordered PCBs received their orders, there are bound to be extras sold in the classifieds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 17 July 2013, 22:42:00
I never do this, but...

(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae156/jbedwell81/3qobv2_zps2c412b12.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 18 July 2013, 07:14:08
tjcaustin has paid for the prototype and I have made some final changes and sent the files, so we're now officially waiting for the prototypes to be shipped. I'll publish the final rev. B files later.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: madderoftime on Thu, 18 July 2013, 08:55:39
I had not seen if so but did we end up with back lighting in the prototype?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 18 July 2013, 09:00:50
If everything goes well, there will be an expansion module for backlight sold separately.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Poom on Thu, 18 July 2013, 09:07:22
if everything goes well, then GH60 will start a keyboard company, then the company will design a new switch better than anything we have ever seen before, then it will start sponsoring Progamers, changed the keyboard paradigm, and we all will be there to say... we were there when the GH60 started everything off. :cool:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: madderoftime on Thu, 18 July 2013, 10:39:31
So the board will have a header and the LEDs to be soldered on now before switches and plate or during so that you don't have to take it all apart again. Will the header be included in the kit to facilitate that?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Thechemist on Thu, 18 July 2013, 11:30:52
If everything goes well, there will be an expansion module for backlight sold separately.

I am assuming the expansion module for led control will require another controller? Do you have anything specific you can disclose about he led module? 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Thu, 18 July 2013, 12:02:47
The word of the day isss.... PRODUCTION!!!

YYYYYAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Abortion0 on Thu, 18 July 2013, 12:43:50
Are you going to do a thread like this for some phantom boards in the near future?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 18 July 2013, 12:46:13
How much do you estimate the led module to be?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 18 July 2013, 14:36:07
How much do you estimate the led module to be?

It all comes down to how many of them we want to produce.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Jmneuv on Thu, 18 July 2013, 16:31:00
i think they'll go like hot cakes
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Fri, 19 July 2013, 04:24:41
So it's impossible to get your hands on one of these? There wont be a 2nd round?  :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 19 July 2013, 04:36:14
There will be a 2nd round, but probably next year or so. There will also probably be some in the classifieds when they're shipped.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Fri, 19 July 2013, 05:19:48
Crap, i was looking for a Poker like keyboard, with an ISO layout, and i found this thread. A year is way to long for me
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jspark on Fri, 19 July 2013, 12:45:23
Crap, i was looking for a Poker like keyboard, with an ISO layout, and i found this thread. A year is way to long for me

You probably will be able to get one from the classifieds. I'm sure someone will sell his GH60.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 19 July 2013, 13:01:21
Crap, i was looking for a Poker like keyboard, with an ISO layout, and i found this thread. A year is way to long for me

I ordered three, and I know I'll only end up keeping one - maybe two.  I'm sure there are plenty of folks in the same situation.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 19 July 2013, 13:23:15
Someone might even use their extra PCBs and cases to build up a custom modded GH60 and sell that. These possibilities exist. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 19 July 2013, 13:29:28
Someone might even use their extra PCBs and cases to build up a custom modded GH60 and sell that. These possibilities exist. :)

jd if you make a wireless one I want dibs. ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 19 July 2013, 21:45:32
Led module sounds like fun specially with the Nathan set coming in the near future. I'll probably need four of them depending on price.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 19 July 2013, 21:57:32
Led module sounds like fun specially with the Nathan set coming in the near future. I'll probably need four of them depending on price.

It freaks me out every time I see Nathan since that's my name too.

And I'm really looking forward to the LED modules.  The GH60s will look sexy with them...well, at least to those of us who like LEDs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: n0rvig on Sat, 20 July 2013, 00:59:44
Is order #7 still available? I'll take it if it is.

It looked like a Goodfella might've gone for it, but I don't see a price or name on the spreadsheet.

No worries if I am a little slow piping up here. Just thought having 1 more GH60 would be better.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Poom on Sat, 20 July 2013, 01:08:47
Is order #7 still available? I'll take it if it is.

It looked like a Goodfella might've gone for it, but I don't see a price or name on the spreadsheet.

No worries if I am a little slow piping up here. Just thought having 1 more GH60 would be better.

yep it should still be free, was mine until i changed to no.6
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Xenderwind on Sat, 20 July 2013, 01:14:08
Is order #7 still available? I'll take it if it is.

It looked like a Goodfella might've gone for it, but I don't see a price or name on the spreadsheet.

No worries if I am a little slow piping up here. Just thought having 1 more GH60 would be better.

yep it should still be free, was mine until i changed to no.6

If you do not take it I would love to get in on it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (INVOICING)
Post by: gnubag on Sat, 20 July 2013, 01:20:16
The deadly deadline is midnight between Sunday, 14th and Monday, 15th (CST)


After this time we're closing all leftover orders, so that we can count everything up without stuff changing all the time. There will be no deadline moving any more, so grab the final leftovers and pay until deadline!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Xenderwind on Sat, 20 July 2013, 01:23:14
The deadly deadline is midnight between Sunday, 14th and Monday, 15th (CST)


After this time we're closing all leftover orders, so that we can count everything up without stuff changing all the time. There will be no deadline moving any more, so grab the final leftovers and pay until deadline!
Well...****.  All I saw was the payments due deadline :( 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 20 July 2013, 06:52:33
I think they are done with letting people pick up orders.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ninjadoc on Sat, 20 July 2013, 14:16:12
They are done with picking up orders or editing orders. We can trade plates or complete orders. I don't believe they will change the shipment or orders either. I believe that is up to the original purchaser once the item is received.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 03:44:51
interest :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Xenderwind on Sun, 21 July 2013, 03:47:45
interest :)

You're too late for this unfortunately.  You can hope that someone decides to sell theirs once they receive it and post it in the classifieds section later.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 21 July 2013, 03:58:26
Thank your info :)

guess when it will be open again? ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Xenderwind on Sun, 21 July 2013, 04:06:48
Thank your info :)

guess when it will be open again? ;D

Group buys take a lot of time and patience.  I wouldn't expect another one until next year.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 30 July 2013, 16:00:29
i have been dreaming about building these boards for 6 months. i cant wait!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 30 July 2013, 16:26:15
 :( i am too late
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 30 July 2013, 16:39:02
:( i am too late

well, not even close.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 30 July 2013, 16:43:28
:( i am too late

well, not even close.
the dead line is already over :-X
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 30 July 2013, 18:25:52
:( i am too late

well, not even close.
the dead line is already over :-X

Just wait until people receive their shipments. They'll pop up in the classifieds by the dozen.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 31 July 2013, 01:13:49
 :blank:I know that, and I think I will get one then
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jspark on Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:23:10
I hope I can receive GH60 in this year. Last time I ordered Round 4 double shot keycaps, it took over a year.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:09:18
I hope I can receive GH60 in this year. Last time I ordered Round 4 double shot keycaps, it took over a year.
On page 76 I asked and he said "in the best case shipping will start in the middle of September" so don't worry, this will not take a year.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 01 August 2013, 02:14:51
I hope I can receive GH60 in this year. Last time I ordered Round 4 double shot keycaps, it took over a year.
On page 76 I asked and he said "in the best case shipping will start in the middle of September" so don't worry, this will not take a year.

Then again, this keyboard would totally be worth it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jspark on Thu, 01 August 2013, 10:17:21
I hope I can receive GH60 in this year. Last time I ordered Round 4 double shot keycaps, it took over a year.
On page 76 I asked and he said "in the best case shipping will start in the middle of September" so don't worry, this will not take a year.

Then again, this keyboard would totally be worth it.

agreed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 02 August 2013, 20:23:42
Hi guys, this plate is for preparation of the add-on module that will come after the PCB. I'm not sure if I'm going to leave it on just the universal plate, or I should add it on all of them. It allows you to solder the extra pins from the top.


(http://i.imgur.com/GUMQ0f8.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GUMQ0f8.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 02 August 2013, 20:51:44
Hi guys, this plate is for preparation of the add-on module that will come after the PCB. I'm not sure if I'm going to leave it on just the universal plate, or I should add it on all of them. It allows you to solder the extra pins from the top.


(http://i.imgur.com/GUMQ0f8.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GUMQ0f8.jpg)

i think it would be appreciated if all plates would have the cutout. I don't think it would have any (serious) downsides. (or am I wrong?)

desoldering a couple switches > desoldering everything.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 02 August 2013, 21:20:47
Hey WFD, so are you referring to the top of the plate where you cut the space between the Fn keys? If so, I'd prefer to not have this on my plates (non-universal) as I'm thinking you'd see the missing gaps through the keys.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 02 August 2013, 23:05:24
Hi guys, this plate is for preparation of the add-on module that will come after the PCB. I'm not sure if I'm going to leave it on just the universal plate, or I should add it on all of them. It allows you to solder the extra pins from the top.


(http://i.imgur.com/GUMQ0f8.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GUMQ0f8.jpg)

I ordered 2 universal plates and I like your idea because I would not need to unsolder everything
I understand wildcards point of view about seeing the pcb in areas of the numeric row.

should a poll be opened for this?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: hasu on Sat, 03 August 2013, 00:27:52
How this cutout has effect on feel? It's my concern.
I don't like to have the cutout on my any plates, to be honest.

I think many won't need the cutout while people still can cut those beams themselve with decent tool if they need.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:46:40
So, will it support LEDS?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 07 August 2013, 14:59:15
So, will it support LEDS?

default i supports esc + wasd + poker arrows and maybe more.
the discussion above is about the addon module that will make it support full led backlighting.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Wed, 07 August 2013, 17:24:17
So, will it support LEDS?

default i supports esc + wasd + poker arrows and maybe more.
the discussion above is about the addon module that will make it support full led backlighting.

So there will somehow be a support of backlighting???
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 07 August 2013, 17:37:56
That's the eventual plan, but until it's cone, there is no guarantee.

You could always lay some EL lighting under the keys.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Wed, 07 August 2013, 17:51:20
That's the eventual plan, but until it's cone, there is no guarantee.

You could always lay some EL lighting under the keys.

You lost me at EL lighting, care to explain what it is, or give me some links to read up on  ;D ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 07 August 2013, 18:07:03
That's the eventual plan, but until it's cone, there is no guarantee.

You could always lay some EL lighting under the keys.

You lost me at EL lighting, care to explain what it is, or give me some links to read up on  ;D ?

I am not trying to sound harsh but a large pool of resources and information about el lighting is available via google search and it would be best not to go that far off topic in this thread.
you could also open a new thread discussing el lighting and I am sure some members could explain it to you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 07 August 2013, 18:48:24
That's the eventual plan, but until it's cone, there is no guarantee.

You could always lay some EL lighting under the keys.

You lost me at EL lighting, care to explain what it is, or give me some links to read up on  ;D ?
Look up EL Panel or EL wire, should give you all you need.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dhell82 on Wed, 07 August 2013, 20:30:44
Just joined GH recently and i really want to get one of these GH60s. Any idea if and when there will be another Group Buy like this one or if i can put in a late order for one ? Any info is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 07 August 2013, 20:36:29
Just joined GH recently and i really want to get one of these GH60s. Any idea if and when there will be another Group Buy like this one or if i can put in a late order for one ? Any info is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

people will have some in the classifieds after this is done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Icte on Fri, 09 August 2013, 04:40:02
Just out of curiosity, were there a lot of order of the GH60 ISO 1.25x variant? 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 09 August 2013, 04:50:30
Look in the first post at the order confirmation sheet, there's the list of who ordered what in which amount.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nickwalt on Fri, 09 August 2013, 10:22:37
Regarding 1.25 ISO, if you're curious about why...
I like the poker style but wanted ISO equivalent.
Wanted a layout that works with a "tray" and doesn't need any top cover like WKL or HHKB layouts.
Will be using a mapping that makes the r-shift/win/menu/ctrl keys arrow keys using the Fn key.
Based on that, 1.25 seemed preferable to me, to keep the keys evenly balanced.
I ordered 2, I don't think I would have done that for a ready-made poker/pure but will use both in different locations.
There's definitely something about being able to say you made (at least some of) it yourself!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Icte on Fri, 09 August 2013, 14:18:06
Regarding 1.25 ISO, if you're curious about why...
I like the poker style but wanted ISO equivalent.
Wanted a layout that works with a "tray" and doesn't need any top cover like WKL or HHKB layouts.
Will be using a mapping that makes the r-shift/win/menu/ctrl keys arrow keys using the Fn key.
Based on that, 1.25 seemed preferable to me, to keep the keys evenly balanced.
I ordered 2, I don't think I would have done that for a ready-made poker/pure but will use both in different locations.
There's definitely something about being able to say you made (at least some of) it yourself!

Actually reason I was curious was because I missed the sign-up for the GH60 and hoped some peopöe who bought extra of this particular model of GH60 would be willing to sell :) But awesome story nevertheless!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: acantha on Fri, 09 August 2013, 15:22:32
I recently took over someone's order for a GH60 without assembly service. This will be my first time doing something like this. Is there existing documentation on how to assemble everything? or will some be provided? would hate to screw it up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MJ45 on Fri, 09 August 2013, 15:53:45
I recently took over someone's order for a GH60 without assembly service. This will be my first time doing something like this. Is there existing documentation on how to assemble everything? or will some be provided? would hate to screw it up.
If your PCB has pre - installed smd's its not hard to do the switches & led's. All you need is the basic soldering gear & experience. You can practice and get good skill by de-soldering and resoldering some junk-out dated electronics. Also there probably be a thread about the build some time soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: lcs on Fri, 09 August 2013, 15:54:18
I recently took over someone's order for a GH60 without assembly service. This will be my first time doing something like this. Is there existing documentation on how to assemble everything? or will some be provided? would hate to screw it up.

Holy crap man, how did you get one? I'm trying so hard to :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: do_Og@n on Fri, 09 August 2013, 16:02:04
I recently took over someone's order for a GH60 without assembly service. This will be my first time doing something like this. Is there existing documentation on how to assemble everything? or will some be provided? would hate to screw it up.

Find some cheap Cherry boards on Ebay to practice Desoldering and re-soldering. They have 4 points to desolder which will give you a lot of practice. Plus you will get some switches and stabilizers while you're at it.

A Wyse PCE keyboard will work too but they only have 2 desolder points and the spacebar stabilizer isn't compatible with the GH60.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: acantha on Fri, 09 August 2013, 16:13:04
thanks for the advice! guess i'm off to ebay to find something to de and re solder.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 09 August 2013, 19:49:14
My first soldering experience was on my a.87 lol.  It really isn't hard.  I screwed up one of the pads on the LED's but besides that all is well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mauri on Sat, 10 August 2013, 12:57:07
Only soldering I've ever done was a pcb 1/8 the size of the gh60 and it was back in elementary school :d
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Defying on Sat, 10 August 2013, 13:12:34
Just curious, did anyone buy extra Poker plates? Seems like I'm too late to pick one up, and I can't find plates anywhere else.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Sat, 10 August 2013, 13:45:02
Just curious, did anyone buy extra Poker plates? Seems like I'm too late to pick one up, and I can't find plates anywhere else.

I may have a beast poker plate left after everything gets here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 10 August 2013, 14:40:00
Oh, btw, I realized I probably need to make myself a 7unit space wire for cherry stabs, since i only ordered 6.25 (yes, that was stupid). What thickness is the wire and where can i get the required dimensions?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 10 August 2013, 14:46:41
is there any one have a extra pcb and plate?  :( i really want one
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 10 August 2013, 16:23:16
Oh, btw, I realized I probably need to make myself a 7unit space wire for cherry stabs, since i only ordered 6.25 (yes, that was stupid). What thickness is the wire and where can i get the required dimensions?

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zry3CHNKgT8) should help you. Works very similar for Cherry stabs, too.

is there any one have a extra pcb and plate?  :( i really want one

Classifieds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tricheboars on Sun, 11 August 2013, 02:00:00
some awesome person should post a pic of the pcb. you know for drooling purposes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 11 August 2013, 03:11:33
Check this out: http://blog.komar.be/gh60-evolution/ (http://blog.komar.be/gh60-evolution/) for graphical comparison between rev. A and rev. B and hi-res renders. Rev. A pictures are available in various threads (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.0, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg717519#msg717519 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg717519#msg717519)), and rev. B pictures don't exist yet!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tricheboars on Sun, 11 August 2013, 13:54:38
Check this out: http://blog.komar.be/gh60-evolution/ (http://blog.komar.be/gh60-evolution/) for graphical comparison between rev. A and rev. B and hi-res renders. Rev. A pictures are available in various threads (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.0, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg717519#msg717519 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg717519#msg717519)), and rev. B pictures don't exist yet!

yea the rev. b photos is what i be after!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: madderoftime on Sun, 11 August 2013, 17:47:39
Check this out: http://blog.komar.be/gh60-evolution/ (http://blog.komar.be/gh60-evolution/) for graphical comparison between rev. A and rev. B and hi-res renders. Rev. A pictures are available in various threads (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.0, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg717519#msg717519 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.msg717519#msg717519)), and rev. B pictures don't exist yet!

Where is the like button?  ;D
Keep up the good work! Getting excited here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeeGee on Mon, 12 August 2013, 08:21:42
Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone will be selling these in the future, since I missed the deadline.
Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 12 August 2013, 08:23:26
You should check the classifieds after people received theirs, there are plenty people who bought a butt load of GH60's and dont plan to keep them all
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeeGee on Mon, 12 August 2013, 08:25:52
You should check the classifieds after people received theirs, there are plenty people who bought a butt load of GH60's and dont plan to keep them all
Thanks for the advice :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: agodinhost on Mon, 12 August 2013, 08:31:22
Awesome work Komar007!!!
Thanks very much man!
 :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: i3oilermaker on Thu, 15 August 2013, 09:27:39
Is there an ETA on when we expect these to ship?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 August 2013, 09:47:55
Is there an ETA on when we expect these to ship?

Did the latest prototypes end up working out??
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: T0ken on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:23:44
Is there an ETA on when we expect these to ship?

Did the latest prototypes end up working out??


Komar mentioned in the blog post that the latest prototype ships to him on August 22; then there is testing and verification before final manufacturing. I too can hardly  wait,  but as with any group buy we've gotta be patient guys...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:26:54
Is there an ETA on when we expect these to ship?

Did the latest prototypes end up working out??


Komar mentioned in the blog post that the latest prototype ships to him on August 22; then there is testing and verification before final manufacturing. I too can hardly  wait,  but as with any group buy we've gotta be patient guys...

Need to find this blog!! Thanks for posting, had no idea.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: agor on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:49:21
http://blog.komar.be/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:50:06
Is there an ETA on when we expect these to ship?

Did the latest prototypes end up working out??


Komar mentioned in the blog post that the latest prototype ships to him on August 22; then there is testing and verification before final manufacturing. I too can hardly  wait,  but as with any group buy we've gotta be patient guys...

Need to find this blog!! Thanks for posting, had no idea.

http://blog.komar.be/gh60-evolution/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 August 2013, 11:54:04
That was such a good read...the diagrams and adding in all the considerations we've asked for? Incredible. Great work guys. :D

/me is so excited
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 15 August 2013, 12:26:00
http://blog.komar.be/ (http://blog.komar.be/)

 
Is there an ETA on when we expect these to ship?

Did the latest prototypes end up working out??


Komar mentioned in the blog post that the latest prototype ships to him on August 22; then there is testing and verification before final manufacturing. I too can hardly  wait,  but as with any group buy we've gotta be patient guys...

Need to find this blog!! Thanks for posting, had no idea.

http://blog.komar.be/gh60-evolution/ (http://blog.komar.be/gh60-evolution/)

Thanks guys!!

Komar is a cool guy!! That flash drive mod....sweet.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Neal on Thu, 15 August 2013, 13:53:33
Sweet read, didn't know you had a blog. :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 15 August 2013, 15:41:31
Thanks guys! You're bumping up my pageviews count;)
As for prototypes, pcbcart have already amazed me with their speed and making stuff way before the scheduled date, but this time it seems it's not the case. So we're still waiting.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Jhors2 on Thu, 15 August 2013, 21:28:53
Is this still open for orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Thu, 15 August 2013, 21:35:14
Is this still open for orders?

no

check classifies for left overs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nil on Fri, 16 August 2013, 16:30:19
I'm purchasing a mini-B USB cable for the GH60 since I don't have one at the moment, and I'm getting confused by the number of necessary "pins". Looking at Monoprice, would this cable (http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=8634&seq=1&format=1#largeimage) work?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 16 August 2013, 16:37:16
I'm purchasing a mini-B USB cable for the GH60 since I don't have one at the moment, and I'm getting confused by the number of necessary "pins". Looking at Monoprice, would this cable (http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=8634&seq=1&format=1#largeimage) work?

yes. but you can get a 15ft black one for less here...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812816059
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nil on Fri, 16 August 2013, 16:53:15
@domoaligato: Thanks for the quick reply and suggestion. I'm gonna go with Monoprice however because I want it white and 6ft is the exact length I want. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: debt4lyfe on Thu, 22 August 2013, 16:57:01
i'm really upset that i missed this. is there likely to be a big markup when people start selling their extra boards? i don't know how these things usually go.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Thu, 22 August 2013, 17:22:51
i'm really upset that i missed this. is there likely to be a big markup when people start selling their extra boards? i don't know how these things usually go.

(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss345/vindi49/Dr_-Evil-One-Million-Dollars_zps107ab072.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 22 August 2013, 18:39:23
i'm really upset that i missed this. is there likely to be a big markup when people start selling their extra boards? i don't know how these things usually go.

There will be some that try to profit, but most will sell it for what they have into it. At least that's what I've seen from other group buys. There are bound to be people who bought one (or more) PCBs too many.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 22 August 2013, 19:25:37
you might see the prices range a little because the sellers will include the price they paid for shipping to them in the sale cost. but most won't try to profit from them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: madderoftime on Thu, 22 August 2013, 20:36:58
Like me, for instance, I will be doing just that. Selling what I don't need for just what I have into them when this is over here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: fydo on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:27:27
GH60 makes me happy inside. :3
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: madderoftime on Thu, 22 August 2013, 21:27:49
Thanks guys! You're bumping up my pageviews count;)
As for prototypes, pcbcart have already amazed me with their speed and making stuff way before the scheduled date, but this time it seems it's not the case. So we're still waiting.

I read through your blog and I must say you have done a amazing job thus far on this. It will truly be worthy of the accessories I have planned for it. Absolute shame you don't see it after it is in the nice case and plate over it. :(
Might have to make a mirror shadow box for an extra board.  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 23 August 2013, 19:43:24
So who do I contact regarding my order?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 23 August 2013, 23:20:38
So who do I contact regarding my order?
depends on what service you need.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Sat, 24 August 2013, 12:48:33
So when do komar expect the rev C board to arrive?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Sat, 24 August 2013, 12:52:15
So when do komar expect the rev C board to arrive?

as soon as the testing of rev b finished, and he thinks he needs to change quite a bit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 24 August 2013, 13:00:21
So when do komar expect the rev C board to arrive?

as soon as the testing of rev b finished, and he thinks he needs to change quite a bit.
Quite the contrary. I'm hoping I won't have to change anything except for silkscreen between B and C.
And yes, we have to test B first before we order 700 Cs;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 25 August 2013, 08:24:26
So who do I contact regarding my order?
depends on what service you need.

The service I need is a change of shipping address for my order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 25 August 2013, 13:32:42
Have plates been made yet or is it possible to change layout?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 25 August 2013, 16:03:22
So who do I contact regarding my order?
depends on what service you need.

The service I need is a change of shipping address for my order.

Just send me a PM with your shipping address, please sir. I am cognizant of the reason for the address change; no explanation required.


Have plates been made yet or is it possible to change layout?

I will let WFD answer that one. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: thoere on Mon, 26 August 2013, 15:55:20
i'm really upset that i missed this. is there likely to be a big markup when people start selling their extra boards? i don't know how these things usually go.
I most likely will be selling parts for 2 GH60s once they arrive. I'll probably just sell them with no markup, depends on demand.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:47:51
Ok everybody, your orders are ready to ship out.


(http://i.imgur.com/FYsw82q.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/FYsw82q.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/rQi9J9J.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/rQi9J9J.jpg)







jk
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: meiosis on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:49:46
My jealousy level just increased
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: lcs on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:54:10
My jealousy level just increased

Same here :(

Guys, remember that I'll buy your order :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JPG on Tue, 27 August 2013, 18:55:10
Yep, extra pcb (with smd)?  pm me :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Flamingchook on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:00:03
I'm glad I'm getting two pcb's. Now all I need is a frame for the second one since they're so damn beautiful!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:01:37
aw giggity i can't wait
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: sth on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:01:43
yay :) project time
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:06:34
I'm always late to the party.

Looks like I'm the only one offering to buy someone's order. Let me know!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:07:33
I'm glad I'm getting two pcb's. Now all I need is a frame for the second one since they're so damn beautiful!

most people when they say frame mean the plate. is this what you mean or are you saying you still need a case?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:08:54
I'm so excited!  Finally get to install my ergo clears.

I see it has the PCB has holes for LEDs.  Is that still something that we'll need a little add-on card thing for later?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: meiosis on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:09:01
I'm glad I'm getting two pcb's. Now all I need is a frame for the second one since they're so damn beautiful!

most people when they say frame mean the plate. is this what you mean or are you saying you still need a case?

I think he means hes going to hang it up in all its glory.. Which is what I want to do :| so if anyone ordered a bare pcb let me know :!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:11:01
(http://i.imgur.com/FYsw82q.jpg)
Is it normal for the plate to be cut like that on the mounting hole?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JPG on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:11:15
I'm so excited!  Finally get to install my ergo clears.

I see it has the PCB has holes for LEDs.  Is that still something that we'll need a little add-on card thing for later?

The last thing I read about it is that you will have direct asses to some leds with the main controller (wasd and other few) but the others will have  the matrix but will require an addon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:13:19
I'm so excited!  Finally get to install my ergo clears.

I see it has the PCB has holes for LEDs.  Is that still something that we'll need a little add-on card thing for later?

yes. that is one of the uses for expansion module area at the top of the PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:15:15
I'm so excited!  Finally get to install my ergo clears.

I see it has the PCB has holes for LEDs.  Is that still something that we'll need a little add-on card thing for later?

The last thing I read about it is that you will have direct asses to some leds with the main controller (wasd and other few) but the others will have  the matrix but will require an addon.

you are correct. the area labeled wasd is a good example of this as each of the resisters for the led's go in each of the w.a.s.d. labeled areas.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: madderoftime on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:38:31
So revision B made the cut with no changes? Good job!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Acetrak on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:45:02
Whoa great news!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 27 August 2013, 19:47:51
edited: nvm

anyway the white pcb looks so goooood
I wouldn't mind to get a white one instead of black ones.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 27 August 2013, 20:24:57
That white PCB is beautiful... I might have to work one without a plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: acantha on Tue, 27 August 2013, 20:48:12
wow. that is seriously gorgeous. excited!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 27 August 2013, 20:51:19
Jesus Christ, that is beautiful!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 27 August 2013, 21:41:45
I love the red alert style pcb. Very awesome!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: eyesmiles on Tue, 27 August 2013, 21:47:08
That white PCB is beautiful... I might have to work one without a plate.

I wholeheartedly agree moose. I think I'll go PCB mount everything for my second one. Perhaps I'll cut a hole behind a stock Poker case and make a window so I can see the ode to SmallFry and the GH60 logo. The PCB looks too exceptional to hide behind a plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 27 August 2013, 22:30:45
That white PCB is beautiful... I might have to work one without a plate.

I wholeheartedly agree moose. I think I'll go PCB mount everything for my second one. Perhaps I'll cut a hole behind a stock Poker case and make a window so I can see the ode to SmallFry and the GH60 logo. The PCB looks too exceptional to hide behind a plate.

Or you could get a clear acrylic case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: damorgue on Tue, 27 August 2013, 22:45:48
Those plates do look a bit unconventional regarding the holes at the sides. PCB looks great though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: naokira on Tue, 27 August 2013, 22:55:01
Damn! Those are hot! Wish I ordered :( Though I will hunt classifieds! muahhahaha!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 27 August 2013, 23:02:26
Show Image
Ok everybody, your orders are ready to ship out.


(http://i.imgur.com/FYsw82q.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/FYsw82q.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/rQi9J9J.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/rQi9J9J.jpg)







jk
  :))

It's not really gonna be white... Is it? Looks great with the red and gold!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 27 August 2013, 23:06:47
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/FYsw82q.jpg)

Is it normal for the plate to be cut like that on the mounting hole?
That is the universal plate Domo. You can run any setup with those (minus ISO, unless you got a Uni ISO).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tradet on Tue, 27 August 2013, 23:34:43
If we've ordered switches from 7bit over at deskthority, how do we get those delivered?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 27 August 2013, 23:43:47
If we've ordered switches from 7bit over at deskthority, how do we get those delivered?

since the distribution of the pcb/plate gp through jdcarpe/wfd or komar and you would get it with the plates from them in a package I would guess. (if you told 7bit to ship the switches for the GH60 project)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 27 August 2013, 23:53:10
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/FYsw82q.jpg)

Is it normal for the plate to be cut like that on the mounting hole?
That is the universal plate Domo. You can run any setup with those (minus ISO, unless you got a Uni ISO).

I know that it is the universal plate.
I was trying to point out that the upper left corner of the right shift is cut where the mounting hole is.
it is hanging in mid air. I know that it is thick steel and can take the flex of being used.
it just looks odd.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:37:03
Guys, how do you like the white PCB?
Are we producing the final order white or going back to black matte, as rev A?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:37:45
White PCB all the way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Paranoid on Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:38:27
Oh wow, that is just gorgeous! I can't believe how smoothly this went in comparison to the Phantom GB, which seems to be neverending.
I'm glad I ordered some extra stabilizers here as well since I'll never see those from Prof.
Thanks for all the hard work guys! I'm sure everybody appreciates this :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Flamingchook on Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:39:02
Guys, how do you like the white PCB?
Are we producing the final order white or going back to black matte, as rev A?

I absolutely adore the white PCB! It's so pretty! <3

I'm glad I'm getting two pcb's. Now all I need is a frame for the second one since they're so damn beautiful!

most people when they say frame mean the plate. is this what you mean or are you saying you still need a case?

I mean I want to hang it on my wall because of how amazing it looks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:41:14
Guys, how do you like the white PCB?
Are we producing the final order white or going back to black matte, as rev A?

i would like to have both versions to be honest.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:42:06
Guys, how do you like the white PCB?
Are we producing the final order white or going back to black matte, as rev A?

I love the white but I wonder if a poll might be better? leave it open a few days?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: vorn on Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:43:32
Guys, how do you like the white PCB?
Are we producing the final order white or going back to black matte, as rev A?

I love the white but I wonder if a poll might be better? leave it open a few days?

+1
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:46:13
Guys, how do you like the white PCB?
Are we producing the final order white or going back to black matte, as rev A?

I vote purple (no chance, I know) or black


But honestly, all my Gh60s will be behind plates so I don't really care
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: KangarooZombies on Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:52:22
(http://i.imgur.com/JDWO5PN.gif)
But in all seriousness....

White PCB all the way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:53:09
Guys, how do you like the white PCB?
Are we producing the final order white or going back to black matte, as rev A?
I think a brand new white PCB looks nicer. However, soldering discolours white PCBs very, very easily. Because of this I'd prefer a black one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 28 August 2013, 01:55:11
Guys, how do you like the white PCB?
Are we producing the final order white or going back to black matte, as rev A?
I think a brand new white PCB looks nicer. However, soldering discolours white PCBs very, very easily. Because of this I'd prefer a black one.

this too. also i think that many people expected a black pcb since that was the only color presented and made plans already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 28 August 2013, 02:05:52
Guys, how do you like the white PCB?
Are we producing the final order white or going back to black matte, as rev A?

I vote purple (no chance, I know) or black


But honestly, all my Gh60s will be behind plates so I don't really care

you could submit the pcb to oshpark and have a purple one off made :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: agor on Wed, 28 August 2013, 03:14:38
Oh wow it's beautiful. I really don't care about the pcb color, but as I have 2 ordered, both would be best :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Wed, 28 August 2013, 03:45:01
So everything is looking mighty fine here but what if we asked for assembly, how much longer would I have to wait for that to be done, asking for an estimate, not a pinpoint date.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tradet on Wed, 28 August 2013, 04:00:43
If we've ordered switches from 7bit over at deskthority, how do we get those delivered?

since the distribution of the pcb/plate gp through jdcarpe/wfd or komar and you would get it with the plates from them in a package I would guess. (if you told 7bit to ship the switches for the GH60 project)

Yes, but how do we link the orders? Forum username? Paypal email address? Shall I send a private message to someone with the contents of my order or something?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 28 August 2013, 04:35:40
I think a brand new white PCB looks nicer. However, soldering discolours white PCBs very, very easily. Because of this I'd prefer a black one.

Yes, that's a good point. On the other hand I'll use plates anyway so it won't matter for me ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: j2c8w6f8 on Wed, 28 August 2013, 04:41:21
pmed
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: cyberwave on Wed, 28 August 2013, 05:42:09
I want a white, no electronics bare PCB to hang on my wall  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Paranoid on Wed, 28 August 2013, 05:42:40
I like white best, looks so clean. You only solder on the back, so would it decolor the front?
Either way, I'll be using a plate anyways, so I won't even see it :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 28 August 2013, 06:20:14
Guys, to be clear, WFD was obviously joking that orders are ready to ship. These are prototype Rev B PCBs. Nothing is ready to ship yet. These need to be evaluated, then actual production of the final revision PCBs will begin. I know everyone is ready to have them in their hands, but the end is in sight. Just give us a little longer now to make sure we do everything correctly.

Thanks!
JD
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: cyberwave on Wed, 28 August 2013, 06:56:14
I like white best, looks so clean. You only solder on the back, so would it decolor the front?
Either way, I'll be using a plate anyways, so I won't even see it :)

well... the pcb will show ever so slightly through the long slit for the spacebar wire  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Muffet on Wed, 28 August 2013, 07:14:35
Totally like the white PCB the gold GH60 logo looks sooooo nice.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: madderoftime on Wed, 28 August 2013, 08:14:14
Honestly unless you go with a case that is clear you will never see it. So either works fine. Black is what was pictured and has been what was expected but comes down to personal preference while they are being built. I think white is pretty but with the high light I use for working the black would be easier on the eyes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: salmo on Wed, 28 August 2013, 08:20:10
The white looks sexy because it's fresh to my eyeballs, but honestly both look fantastic.  I'd be happy to take either.  Quite honestly, the layout is really what is what looks best on it. 

The logo and placement are really classy, you could really make them in just about any color (white, black, red, blue, pink, purple, dark green, etc.) as long as it looked okay against gold.  And I'll be thrilled with any of them.

Just swear not to introduce delays to change the color :).  I may be a little antsy to get mine,
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Acanthophis on Wed, 28 August 2013, 08:22:09
My Phantom PCB is black, I want white for my GH60 PCB ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 28 August 2013, 09:06:27
Guys, how do you like the white PCB?
Are we producing the final order white or going back to black matte, as rev A?

White please! I think the board looks completely amazing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 28 August 2013, 09:30:35
I don't really like the white... I think it would look a lot more minimalistic or "pure" with just gold and black, without any third color (like in this case the red). Also I think black looks better for PCB mounted boards.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 28 August 2013, 09:41:50
well, make a poll for like 1-2 days i guess. (if possible open to the people who got pcbs)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 28 August 2013, 09:55:16
I don't really like the white... I think it would look a lot more minimalistic or "pure" with just gold and black, without any third color (like in this case the red). Also I think black looks better for PCB mounted boards.

actually it always had a third color. the red was white before.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: HannibalChew on Wed, 28 August 2013, 09:58:36
really like the white with the gold text!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Broadmonkey on Wed, 28 August 2013, 10:34:14

Guys, how do you like the white PCB?
Are we producing the final order white or going back to black matte, as rev A?

Honestly I think black is the better choice, especially with universal plates where the white one would easily peek through the holes.
As bare PCB, the white one really looks fantastic!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 28 August 2013, 11:30:03
actually it always had a third color. the red was white before.

Yes you're right, but white is more neutral and doesn't stick out as much.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 28 August 2013, 11:49:10
I agree that it doesn't matter.
It is in a case and covered by the plates.

I ordered 2x universal ansi plates so little bits of the pcb will show anyways but it doesn't really matter what color it is.

That white pcb is boss and that is my vote.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: rknize on Wed, 28 August 2013, 15:39:04
I don't care either way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 28 August 2013, 15:40:49
I vote we keep the white
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:05:51
The white looks great, but as I recently found on my 3d printer, it's a lot harder to make out the traces and make repairs if something gets damaged. In the case of my printer, it's easier just to replace the part than to try and follow that trace and bypass the problem.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 28 August 2013, 20:40:28
Ok everybody, your orders are ready to ship out.

jk <-- spoiler here

If you haven't figured it out yet, I was just kidding about orders being shipped out right now. Hover your mouse over the spoiler in the original post yesterday  ^-^


Anywho, these are the final prototypes. They are great, but I still need to work with komar on a few minor technical things before the mass production or PCBs and plates.

Originally, only these prototypes will have white soldermask with red silkscreen, and the final product will be matte black soldermask (like the first revision prototypes). We'll probably stick to the original plan of black PCBs, unless there is an overwhelming preference for white PCBs like these final prototypes. Maybe a quick poll can be taken for a few days until we submit final order. Pics below, phantom also included for comparison. Maybe more comments on the rev.B PCB later.

top: GH60 rev.A, matte black
middle: GH60 rev.B, shiny white
bottom: Phantom, shiny black

(http://i.imgur.com/415RT9t.jpg)  (http://i.imgur.com/JFH3VMX.jpg?1)  (http://i.imgur.com/BbljVTd.jpg)


PS - do not PM me to buy prototypes, only a few were made and they're reserved for certain people already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 28 August 2013, 20:48:20
I'm a huge fan of the white PCB.  Since we're doing so many, is there any way we could produce a black and white version?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 28 August 2013, 20:50:04
Any chance of including shiny black in the poll? ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 28 August 2013, 21:17:24
Since we're doing so many, is there any way we could produce a black and white version?

Most likely not. It'll probably count as 2 different part numbers, which will increase the cost of all of them. The price that you paid for was for a certain quantity tier. Lastly, I don't want to deal with mass PMs to see what color each individual person wants. The options and customizations from this GB is complicated enough.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Tranquilite on Wed, 28 August 2013, 21:25:55
I will not be using a plate, and that white PCB looks fantastic. I vote for white, but black is fine too I guess (though if one of the lucky few getting the prototype pcb would be willing to trade for my final order that would be fantastic).

I'm very excited, for the conclusion of this GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 28 August 2013, 22:38:24
to be honest I would just leave it with the black pcb since it would be as planed and probably save you guys some work (poll and everything).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 28 August 2013, 23:45:14
I'm not it, but if I were, Id'd take the white.

And WFD, sent you a couple of PMs regarding the plate, please have a look, I know you are busy and probably flooded with PMs, thus posting here as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tradet on Thu, 29 August 2013, 00:21:46
In my opinion: white > black shiny > black matte

The white one looks amazing!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: do_Og@n on Thu, 29 August 2013, 00:31:24
Add me to the white list as well. Give me 3 white and 2 black.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Thu, 29 August 2013, 01:08:23
As much as i think that white pcb looks slick as hell, i think i'd honestly prefer the black matte. I've always been a matte-black kinda guy. :P

Also, saints fan, so black+gold works for me.

More also: it seems kinda pointless to worry about making a pcb so pretty and shiny, if it's going to be covered with plates, switches, caps, a case, and a bunch of solder marks. Mostly covered and singed, just screams "black matte."

What about a compromise between white and black? Matte Primer Grey, perhaps? :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: duq on Thu, 29 August 2013, 01:30:41
Damn. I'm going to be majorly disappointed if I get this before my phantom plate :(.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 29 August 2013, 01:35:41
Damn. I'm going to be majorly disappointed if I get this before my phantom plate :(.
Seems likely knowing Prof.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 29 August 2013, 03:42:27
A few things to consider when voting for your preferred color. The white is more resistant to visible marks if you ever scratch it, however it's more prone to burn marks from soldering. The matte black will show marks if you scratch it on something, but there won't be any brown coloration marks if you set your soldering iron temps too high. PCB color shouldn't matter much anyways, because it will be covered by a plate and/or keycaps. No one types without keycaps. With that said, take your pick:

poll for PCB color (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1JKrDOgc1dAA4p8IbNzcgPlv3U-Zo46U2RlCchVLfhkU/viewform)




And WFD, sent you a couple of PMs regarding the plate, please have a look, I know you are busy and probably flooded with PMs, thus posting here as well.

I have mountains of PMs to go through from being on vacation for a few weeks. After getting back, sometimes I want to just relax and actually enjoy browsing the forum rather than handle PMs and logistics  ;) . I only took care of the more urgent ones.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Sai on Thu, 29 August 2013, 03:54:44
no preference. lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 29 August 2013, 03:56:08
Voted for shiny black. I really like the colour and I think it'd be cool to follow the theme that the Phantom set :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Tym on Thu, 29 August 2013, 04:02:43
Voted for brass. I really like the best and I think it'd be cool to follow the theme that the Base case I made  :)

FTFY!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 29 August 2013, 04:04:20
Voted for brass. I really like the best and I think it'd be cool to follow the theme that the Base case I made  :)

FTFY!
You're too good at this.. :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Tym on Thu, 29 August 2013, 05:12:01
My iPad doesn't like Brass though, it auto corrected it to best and base :3
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: salmo on Thu, 29 August 2013, 08:19:04
Yeah since we're voting, I came to the realization that although I generally believe matte > shiny I think it might be a lot more of a risk to mess up the matte finish than the traditional shiny pcb during construction.

I dunno maybe someone who messed with Rev. A can correct me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 29 August 2013, 13:52:18
Is there gonna be a group buy for metallic GH60 stickers anytime soon?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Kabuks on Thu, 29 August 2013, 14:17:39
Voted for no preference.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 29 August 2013, 14:28:02
I voted for white, but I'll be happy with any colour.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 29 August 2013, 15:29:01
WHITE!!! As one that mostly use dark keycap and will always not use a plate I do like a tiny bit of something between the keycaps, and also it will help reflect the led instead of absorbing it like the matte black one. On my prototype I have to look really hard to see if the led is on with non windowed keycap.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Thu, 29 August 2013, 15:32:19
Black :-)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 29 August 2013, 16:01:50
WHITE!!! As one that mostly use dark keycap and will always not use a plate I do like a tiny bit of something between the keycaps, and also it will help reflect the led instead of absorbing it like the matte black one. On my prototype I have to look really hard to see if the led is on with non windowed keycap.

That sounds awful Ivan. Let me take that horrid PCB off your hands so that you can use a proper white one. Huehuehue.  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: j2c8w6f8 on Thu, 29 August 2013, 19:32:46
pmed
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Thu, 29 August 2013, 23:59:39
Btw. how long will that poll be open for?
In the end I really don't care about the color.
I just want to hold my precious GH60s as soon as possible.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: vorn on Fri, 30 August 2013, 01:38:11
I know we're talking about PCB colours right now, but I was just thinking about the assembly service... The LED capabilities of the PCB were only finalised after the GB started moving forward. What's the best way to confirm or make alterations to our preferred configuration?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Broadmonkey on Fri, 30 August 2013, 01:48:23
WHITE!!! As one that mostly use dark keycap and will always not use a plate I do like a tiny bit of something between the keycaps, and also it will help reflect the led instead of absorbing it like the matte black one. On my prototype I have to look really hard to see if the led is on with non windowed keycap.

You make a fair point. Looking at my Pure it really doesn't reflect light from LEDs well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: iAmAhab on Fri, 30 August 2013, 03:01:59
That white is looking all kinds of sexy, might build mine without a plate just because of that fact.
Also because I've never tried a board without one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Fri, 30 August 2013, 03:52:55
I know we're talking about PCB colours right now, but I was just thinking about the assembly service... The LED capabilities of the PCB were only finalised after the GB started moving forward. What's the best way to confirm or make alterations to our preferred configuration?

I would like to know something similar, I took over someones order and it has assembly where he asks for LEDs, which I dont want and I asked to remove the LED, keep the assembly of the actual switches etc, but I never got a confirmation on that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Broadmonkey on Fri, 30 August 2013, 05:19:20
I think questions regarding assembly will be answered when it's time to actually assemble the boards, which I guess will be after most non-assembled orders has been shipped.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: vorn on Fri, 30 August 2013, 05:23:12
I think questions regarding assembly will be answered when it's time to actually assemble the boards, which I guess will be after most non-assembled orders has been shipped.

Cool, I really don't mind waiting. As long as those users who opted for assembly are contacted regarding their initial assembly instructions since those were given before the PCB options were finalised :)

And with regards to PCB colour, I voted "no preference". Since I'm going the plate-mount route, I don't mind what colour the PCB is.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: AndyCapets on Sat, 31 August 2013, 19:39:48
So sad I only got into custom keyboards a few days ago, and now I can't get that bady, damn :|
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Sun, 01 September 2013, 00:37:34
So sad I only got into custom keyboards a few days ago, and now I can't get that bady, damn :|

Keep an eye on the classifieds when people get theirs, there are plenty people who ordered more than they need ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 01 September 2013, 00:39:25
I certainly hope that is the case as I need one as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Moosecraft on Sun, 01 September 2013, 03:56:52
I do plan on looking for one also, however I still got my pure.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: AndyCapets on Sun, 01 September 2013, 07:22:22
So sad I only got into custom keyboards a few days ago, and now I can't get that bady, damn :|

Keep an eye on the classifieds when people get theirs, there are plenty people who ordered more than they need ;)
I will! But I wanted only the PCB, to mount it myself, hopefully I'll find one, and not an already finished one :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 01 September 2013, 12:57:28
feng ordered 100 bare pcb's btw.
make sure you watch his vendor forums for pcb's
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: AndyCapets on Sun, 01 September 2013, 18:02:04
Thanks for the info man!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pixel5 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 18:23:14
Man I wish I had gotten in on this. Btw, what good is a PCB bare/with no controller?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 01 September 2013, 18:45:28
Man I wish I had gotten in on this. Btw, what good is a PCB bare/with no controller?

I'm thinking it comes soldered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 01 September 2013, 18:51:19
There is a PCB that was being offered without any components.
Maybe some people want to source their own parts or something, pixel5. I really have no idea what they would want bare one for. I would buy one just to frame it really.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:16:06
There is a PCB that was being offered without any components.
Maybe some people want to source their own parts or something, pixel5. I really have no idea what they would want bare one for. I would buy one just to frame it really.

point of a bare pcb is that you can either get  the components later if you don't have money now or if you know that you can get the components cheaper somewhere else.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:17:14
feng ordered 100 bare pcb's btw.
make sure you watch his vendor forums for pcb's
thanks for the info!  :D i will probably buy two from him
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:26:38
gnubag, just like I said in the first part of my reply; "some people want to source their own parts".

The reason why I say "I really have no idea" is because I wouldn't bother with sourcing other parts when they are right there for a pretty darn good price already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:28:15
gnubag, just like I said in the first part of my reply; "some people want to source their own parts".

The reason why I say "I really have no idea" is because I wouldn't bother with sourcing other parts when they are right there for a pretty darn good price already.

oh, well maybe he can get them for even cheaper and also he can charge more for soldering when he sells them.

little more work for lots of profit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 01 September 2013, 19:38:18
You base that statement on what kind of information? Can you or do you know of a way to source the SMT components for the PCB at a lower cost than we have here? How much lower? And how many keyboards is this "he"-person making? How much time is spent doing the soldering work? Is this time calculated into this "lots of profit"-number?

Give me a break, man.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pixel5 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 22:05:15
I would love to see a group buy for backlit GH-60 PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 01 September 2013, 22:07:57
I would love to see a group buy for backlit GH-60 PCB.

gh60 will have a addon module to be purchased later that will make it fully backlit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pixel5 on Sun, 01 September 2013, 23:16:55
I would love to see a group buy for backlit GH-60 PCB.

gh60 will have a addon module to be purchased later that will make it fully backlit.

How is that even supposed to work? there are no LED holes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 01 September 2013, 23:18:37
I would love to see a group buy for backlit GH-60 PCB.

gh60 will have a addon module to be purchased later that will make it fully backlit.

How is that even supposed to work? there are no LED holes.

O rly?

(http://i.imgur.com/rQi9J9J.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Nask on Sun, 01 September 2013, 23:32:47
Wow ... That's sexy ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 01 September 2013, 23:41:48
please also refer to this picture that shows the location of the expansion module,  and dedicated led locations that do not require the expansion module (you will see the locations for the registers that match the led locations.).

(http://i.imgur.com/JFH3VMX.jpg?1)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 02 September 2013, 03:21:14
(http://www.empowernetwork.com/nicolescooper1/files/2013/06/img-348630-1-im-so-excited.jpg)

You guys have done an amazing job with this! I can't hardly wait to have these beauties in my possession :D.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: PilotChup on Mon, 02 September 2013, 03:52:20
Oh man, how I wish I found geekhack a few months sooner...

Is there ANY possible way I could be added to this group buy? I could submit payment instantly! I cant go and read all the posts to catch up, only read the last few pages and first few.

After a month of being so disappointed that no one keyboard has what I want, this GH60 is a miracle to me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 02 September 2013, 03:57:09
Is there ANY possible way I could be added to this group buy? I could submit payment instantly! I cant go and read all the posts to catch up, only read the last few pages and first few.

Well the one before this one would have been enough... No you can't get into the GB anymore, but you can probably buy one in the classifieds when people receive them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mauri on Mon, 02 September 2013, 05:10:27
The logo is cool too bad it's going to be covered, wish the gh60 sticker gb would be revived :3

E: on the white that is.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: AGmurdercore on Mon, 02 September 2013, 05:46:04
I am so very sad that i was unable to join this group buy you can't even imagine ;(
I guess that i will have to try and snipe one from the classified if anybody is selling his once they arrive.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: dante on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:42:10
can anyone here confirm a teensy is needed to build a gh60?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:44:04
can anyone here confirm a teensy is needed to build a gh60?

GH60 uses a ATmega32U4 (same as Teensy) controller, soldered directly to the PCB. So no Teensy required. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:44:06
can anyone here confirm a teensy is needed to build a gh60?

You don't need a Teensy for a GH60. A teensy is needed for a Phantom


Edit: Only 2 seconds this time JD!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:44:37
can anyone here confirm a teensy is needed to build a gh60?

You don't need a Teensy for a GH60. A teensy is needed for a Phantom

Ninja'd by me again! :P :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pixel5 on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:47:11
I guess it would be stupid ask if there is a possibility of any extras in this GB...?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:50:16
I guess it would be stupid ask if there is a possibility of any extras in this GB...?

Best bet is to check the classifieds as these become available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 September 2013, 11:51:09
I guess it would be stupid ask if there is a possibility of any extras in this GB...?

We as organizers didn't order any extras, no.

But a couple of vendors ordered several to sell, and others will likely be selling their extras as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 03 September 2013, 12:35:15
Quick question, we can have any key set to what we want with several layers iirc.
What functions are allowed on the keys, can I bind media player - play and such on keys?
What about multiple keys like pressing fn + p = home + refresh?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 03 September 2013, 12:44:29
Quick question, we can have any key set to what we want with several layers iirc.
What functions are allowed on the keys, can I bind media player - play and such on keys?

yes

What about multiple keys like pressing fn + p = home + refresh?

most custom keyboards do not have good support for full macro recording.
It is being developed/improved by hasu's tmk firmware project.
I think komar is also working on it, but I am not sure of the progress.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Tue, 03 September 2013, 13:09:20
Quick question, we can have any key set to what we want with several layers iirc.
What functions are allowed on the keys, can I bind media player - play and such on keys?

yes

What about multiple keys like pressing fn + p = home + refresh?

most custom keyboards do not have good support for full macro recording.
It is being developed/improved by hasu's tmk firmware project.
I think komar is also working on it, but I am not sure of the progress.

I hope Komar makes a little of this, he seems to put alot of work in this  :blank:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 03 September 2013, 13:27:13
The logo is cool too bad it's going to be covered, wish the gh60 sticker gb would be revived :3

E: on the white that is.

I don't think the logo is being covered...?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 03 September 2013, 13:42:03
Quick question, we can have any key set to what we want with several layers iirc.
What functions are allowed on the keys, can I bind media player - play and such on keys?

yes

What about multiple keys like pressing fn + p = home + refresh?

most custom keyboards do not have good support for full macro recording.
It is being developed/improved by hasu's tmk firmware project.
I think komar is also working on it, but I am not sure of the progress.

Ah very nice, thanks for the quick reply, the software to edit the keys, is it user friendly? It's not some DOS type ****fest where I have to study a 100 page PDF in order to change 1 key, right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 03 September 2013, 13:51:10
The final prototyping thread has more info on komars solution and a link is in the op.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 03 September 2013, 14:01:04
The logo is cool too bad it's going to be covered, wish the gh60 sticker gb would be revived :3

E: on the white that is.

I don't think the logo is being covered...?

Also talk to Shadovved if you want stickers.  With permission of jd and friends.

Well, plate for starters does cover it fairly well, then theres switches, keycaps .. :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 03 September 2013, 14:28:41
I just checked the confirmed order list and since I took over an order, #93 on the public list that is, the one ordered by numerus originally, I started to wonder, is there a list where it is noted that I infact took over his order?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 September 2013, 14:33:05
I just checked the confirmed order list and since I took over an order, #93 on the public list that is, the one ordered by numerus originally, I started to wonder, is there a list where it is noted that I infact took over his order?

We have both lists, they just haven't been merged yet. Soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 03 September 2013, 14:46:06
We have both lists, they just haven't been merged yet. Soon.

Ah, great to hear that, also since I'm thinking about my future favourite keyboard of all time, the details of assembly will have to be confirmed when assembly is nearing its time right? Since there is one little thing I dont want from assembly that is in the original request, in this case, the LEDs

And secondly, I just checked out the program to set keys, seems like it doesnt support ISO, will this change, I mean, it should change right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 03 September 2013, 16:25:33
We have both lists, they just haven't been merged yet. Soon.

Ah, great to hear that, also since I'm thinking about my future favourite keyboard of all time, the details of assembly will have to be confirmed when assembly is nearing its time right? Since there is one little thing I dont want from assembly that is in the original request, in this case, the LEDs

And secondly, I just checked out the program to set keys, seems like it doesnt support ISO, will this change, I mean, it should change right?

it has different xml files that replace the default one that support iso. they are depth in that thread.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 03 September 2013, 16:27:35
Aah, good to know, every day were getting closer to my dream keyboard, it's the only think I'm looking forward to currently, I wonder if this is the start of my keyboard hoarding
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 03 September 2013, 16:46:14
do you have a case yet? that is where it starts getting expensive.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 03 September 2013, 16:48:48
Went with the new tex fat lipped case, I like the flat look of it and looking at his pictures my plate should level just about the hight of the case making it seem like the keys are placed on top instead of in the case, also got some nice key caps ordered, I hope everything arrives at around the same time though
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 03 September 2013, 16:55:53
FMJ design 1 with engraving black premium version.
also waiting for whitefiredragon's design :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 03 September 2013, 16:59:08
FMJ is the one with the poker signs on the back right? That one looks good! I can't remember what one whotefiredragon's design looks like
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 September 2013, 17:17:47
Please do not construe this as "Official Group Buy Seal of Approval" or anything of that sort, but as I am distributing US orders for both the Vortex $50 cast aluminum case sold by Pexon and the Tex milled aluminum case sold by justin.wu of Tex, perhaps I could combine shipping for some US orders of those cases if you also purchased a GH60.

Pexon's Vortex $50 Alu case GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.0)
justin.wu's Tex Alu case GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47376.0)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 03 September 2013, 17:22:29
That's a very nice offer and I doubt I'm the only one who is new to the keyboard scene, this will make a lot of people's choices a lot easier I guess, finding all the parts I needed/wanted wasn't an easy thing to do as a first timer
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 03 September 2013, 21:34:20
I along with others are working on a open source acrylic case.

and my sticker GB would include the GH60 logo. Asked lastpilot and he approves.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: fydo on Tue, 03 September 2013, 23:18:20
My only worry with that Tex case is that there might not be room for the LED addon board since the case is so slim. I ordered it anyways, so we'll see :)

and my sticker GB would include the GH60 logo. Asked lastpilot and he approves.

Yay! That sticker GB keeps getting better and better.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Wed, 04 September 2013, 19:28:51
Please do not construe this as "Official Group Buy Seal of Approval" or anything of that sort, but as I am distributing US orders for both the Vortex $50 cast aluminum case sold by Pexon and the Tex milled aluminum case sold by justin.wu of Tex, perhaps I could combine shipping for some US orders of those cases if you also purchased a GH60.

Pexon's Vortex $50 Alu case GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.0)
justin.wu's Tex Alu case GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47376.0)

I may or may not be interested in such a thing...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 04 September 2013, 21:28:29
has the pcb color decided yet?

I really want my gh60s soon. :|
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 04 September 2013, 22:31:25
Please do not construe this as "Official Group Buy Seal of Approval" or anything of that sort, but as I am distributing US orders for both the Vortex $50 cast aluminum case sold by Pexon and the Tex milled aluminum case sold by justin.wu of Tex, perhaps I could combine shipping for some US orders of those cases if you also purchased a GH60.

I also may be interested in this. Thinking about picking up a couple of the pexon cases, but since I would have no use for them until GH60 rolls out, I could wait to receive them together. jd, if this isn't too much trouble for you to coordinate, I think it would be great.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: battletux on Thu, 05 September 2013, 02:44:45
Please do not construe this as "Official Group Buy Seal of Approval" or anything of that sort, but as I am distributing US orders for both the Vortex $50 cast aluminum case sold by Pexon and the Tex milled aluminum case sold by justin.wu of Tex, perhaps I could combine shipping for some US orders of those cases if you also purchased a GH60.

Pexon's Vortex $50 Alu case GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.0)
justin.wu's Tex Alu case GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47376.0)

Any idea if the case will fit the GH60 though?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mauri on Thu, 05 September 2013, 03:02:14
Please do not construe this as "Official Group Buy Seal of Approval" or anything of that sort, but as I am distributing US orders for both the Vortex $50 cast aluminum case sold by Pexon and the Tex milled aluminum case sold by justin.wu of Tex, perhaps I could combine shipping for some US orders of those cases if you also purchased a GH60.

Pexon's Vortex $50 Alu case GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.0)
justin.wu's Tex Alu case GB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47376.0)

Any idea if the case will fit the GH60 though?

I don't think he'd be recommending cases that wouldn't. Justin.wu's case will fit, it does say it on the threads title. Pexons however I'm not sure, iirc gh60 is about, if not identical size with poker?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Thu, 05 September 2013, 09:17:13
As i know, the GH60 should fit all poker cases, it was designed with this in mind? Correct me if i'm wrong
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 05 September 2013, 09:22:06
As i know, the GH60 should fit all poker cases, it was designed with this in mind? Correct me if i'm wrong

Correct. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Thu, 05 September 2013, 09:26:23
So, jdcarpe, have you held a GH60 pcb in your hands? If so, is it as magnificent as it looks in pictures?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 05 September 2013, 09:31:44
So, jdcarpe, have you held a GH60 pcb in your hands? If so, is it as magnificent as it looks in pictures?

I haven't received my Rev B PCB yet, but my Rev A prototype has been built for a while now. I made a Post Your GH60 these in the media subforum.

And yes, it is wonderful. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 05 September 2013, 11:34:47
how long is that poll for the pcb color going to stay open?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 05 September 2013, 11:38:46
How long until mass production?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mauri on Thu, 05 September 2013, 11:39:34
how long is that poll for the pcb color going to stay open?

uh oh what poll? where ಠ_ಠ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bupsthename on Thu, 05 September 2013, 11:53:21
how long is that poll for the pcb color going to stay open?

uh oh what poll? where ಠ_ಠ?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg1019893#msg1019893
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 05 September 2013, 14:40:49
How long until mass production?

All testers need to receive, build and test their Rev. B boards first.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pixel5 on Thu, 05 September 2013, 14:47:00
How long until mass production?

All testers need to receive, build and test their Rev. B boards first.

I volunteer to be a tester. I shall take on this heavy burden for the good of the people.  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 05 September 2013, 14:51:55
How long until mass production?

All testers need to receive, build and test their Rev. B boards first.

I volunteer to be a tester. I shall take on this heavy burden for the good of the people.  :p

Oh, we did that already with the first round of prototypes, thanks.

Closed beta, sir! ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pixel5 on Thu, 05 September 2013, 14:58:54
How long until mass production?

All testers need to receive, build and test their Rev. B boards first.

I volunteer to be a tester. I shall take on this heavy burden for the good of the people.  :p

Oh, we did that already with the first round of prototypes, thanks.

Closed beta, sir! ;)

So...you're telling me there's a chance.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Bl-Dhb9ZYLc/TwEnAdeepdI/AAAAAAAALJI/vqiTe7S4_t0/s320/jim+carrey.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 05 September 2013, 15:05:39
So...you're telling me there's a chance.
Show Image
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Bl-Dhb9ZYLc/TwEnAdeepdI/AAAAAAAALJI/vqiTe7S4_t0/s320/jim+carrey.jpg)


Well, you know how that movie ended, right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 06 September 2013, 01:52:19
So...you're telling me there's a chance.
Show Image
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Bl-Dhb9ZYLc/TwEnAdeepdI/AAAAAAAALJI/vqiTe7S4_t0/s320/jim+carrey.jpg)


Well, you know how that movie ended, right?

they got gh60s?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 06 September 2013, 05:00:24
No, they let the bus with a lot of gh60s go away.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: v4mp1 on Sat, 07 September 2013, 21:03:51
What about the 1000hz or even more firmware komar? *meh* *don'tkillme* ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nebo on Sat, 07 September 2013, 21:30:49
Is it still possible to sell your spot and/or change shipping address? Didn't plan on this going out so long and I'm having to move. :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 08 September 2013, 05:47:08
Is it still possible to sell your spot and/or change shipping address? Didn't plan on this going out so long and I'm having to move. :/

What did you order, I'll be interested int taking your spot.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 08 September 2013, 06:26:03
What did you order, I'll be interested int taking your spot.

According to the OP, PCB, ANSI plate with short right shift and stabs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 08 September 2013, 06:42:27
Thanks. Just saw the doc.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 08 September 2013, 15:01:04
Thanks. Just saw the doc.
Also not included are switches from 7bit. Full order was:

1  GH60 PCB
1  ANSI 1.5x (pure shift)
1  Cherry plate mounted stabilizer set
1  7x spacebar wire
1  MXLOCKP
70 MXWHITEP
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 08 September 2013, 15:06:31
Thanks. Just saw the doc.
Also not included are switches from 7bit. Full order was:

1  GH60 PCB
1  ANSI 1.5x (pure shift)
1  Cherry plate mounted stabilizer set
1  7x spacebar wire
1  MXLOCKP
70 MXWHITEP


I've PMed WFD asking if I can take over your order, but only the stuff ordered from WFD. Will that be alright?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 08 September 2013, 15:33:46
Thanks. Just saw the doc.
Also not included are switches from 7bit. Full order was:

1  GH60 PCB
1  ANSI 1.5x (pure shift)
1  Cherry plate mounted stabilizer set
1  7x spacebar wire
1  MXLOCKP
70 MXWHITEP


I've PMed WFD asking if I can take over your order, but only the stuff ordered from WFD. Will that be alright?
Probably. I'm sure I'd have no problem selling white switches in the classifies.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 08 September 2013, 15:47:26
Thanks. Just saw the doc.
Also not included are switches from 7bit. Full order was:

1  GH60 PCB
1  ANSI 1.5x (pure shift)
1  Cherry plate mounted stabilizer set
1  7x spacebar wire
1  MXLOCKP
70 MXWHITEP


I've PMed WFD asking if I can take over your order, but only the stuff ordered from WFD. Will that be alright?
Probably. I'm sure I'd have no problem selling white switches in the classifies.

 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* Thanks so much!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: blueslobster on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:08:16
Great project. Can’t wait for the next group buy. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: naokira on Wed, 11 September 2013, 09:44:37
Thanks. Just saw the doc.
Also not included are switches from 7bit. Full order was:

1  GH60 PCB
1  ANSI 1.5x (pure shift)
1  Cherry plate mounted stabilizer set
1  7x spacebar wire
1  MXLOCKP
70 MXWHITEP


I've PMed WFD asking if I can take over your order, but only the stuff ordered from WFD. Will that be alright?
Probably. I'm sure I'd have no problem selling white switches in the classifies.

You surely can sell me the white switches too if you want ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 11 September 2013, 09:56:05
Great project. Can’t wait for the next group buy. :)

There won't be a similar GB anytime soon I guess. But you will most likely find many PCBs and plates in the classifieds after they were delivered.

Some people are selling their order already before it's even produced ;) So keep an eye on the WTS threads there!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pixel5 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 10:00:34
Great project. Can’t wait for the next group buy. :)

After this GB is done, I think mechanicalkeyboards.com will start selling the PCB and possibly other components.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 10:07:29
Great project. Can’t wait for the next group buy. :)

After this GB is done, I think mechanicalkeyboards.com will start selling the PCB and possibly other components.

Really? If that happened, i am very happy :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: lcs on Wed, 11 September 2013, 10:08:05
Great project. Can’t wait for the next group buy. :)

After this GB is done, I think mechanicalkeyboards.com will start selling the PCB and possibly other components.

Really? If that happened, i am very happy :)

Yes, it's probably happening. They're selling phantom and ergodox pcbs already :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 11 September 2013, 10:09:00
Great project. Can’t wait for the next group buy. :)

After this GB is done, I think mechanicalkeyboards.com will start selling the PCB and possibly other components.

Really? If that happened, i am very happy :)

Well, they are selling Phantom PCBs right now, so why not GH60 components ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 11 September 2013, 10:09:29
Great project. Can’t wait for the next group buy. :)

After this GB is done, I think mechanicalkeyboards.com will start selling the PCB and possibly other components.

Really? If that happened, i am very happy :)

Yes, it's probably happening. They're selling phantom and ergodox pcbs already :)

Yeah, i hope that. I wanna both Phantom & GH60
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 11 September 2013, 10:31:12
Great project. Can’t wait for the next group buy. :)

After this GB is done, I think mechanicalkeyboards.com will start selling the PCB and possibly other components.

Really? If that happened, i am very happy :)

Well, they are selling Phantom PCBs right now, so why not GH60 components ;)

They will after the GB, many of us asked them not to sell the stuff right away as it would be unfair to the GB owners, and there might be some changes on the PCB and plate before it goes into mass production.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 12 September 2013, 19:30:12
Hey just a quick note:  I would like to add GH60 support to my custom firmware project (see here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41390.msg1039957#msg1039957)), but I will not be owning a GH60.  Any volunteers to help me work it out?  Shouldn't be too much trouble.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 September 2013, 20:23:32
Hey just a quick note:  I would like to add GH60 support to my custom firmware project (see here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41390.msg1039957#msg1039957)), but I will not be owning a GH60.  Any volunteers to help me work it out?  Shouldn't be too much trouble.

I will volunteer. I have a prototype I can test it with later tonight.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 12 September 2013, 20:28:24
I've got to get my hands on the hardware details first.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 September 2013, 20:36:08
I've got to get my hands on the hardware details first.

Gerbers are on komar's github, for the schematic. And hasu has the GH60 firmware in his TMK keyboard github repo.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 15 September 2013, 23:14:06
I added GH60 support.  There are many layouts so I just picked the poker layout.

[attach=1]

By the way, this is important.  Do you use Flip to flash the firmwares on the GH60?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 15 September 2013, 23:27:03
I added GH60 support.  There are many layouts so I just picked the poker layout.

(Attachment Link)

By the way, this is important.  Do you use Flip to flash the firmwares on the GH60?

I would assume so because it has the same amtel chip as the bpiphany filco controllers.





Also what is the current status of the GH60?
are we still waiting for the poll? :|
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 16 September 2013, 07:53:18
I would assume so because it has the same amtel chip as the bpiphany filco controllers.

Actually I'm trying to determine what bootloader he has on it.  The code is written to assume that the OEM bootloader is installed.  I just want to make sure that there isn't a custom bootloader so I don't brick someone's PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 16 September 2013, 08:06:11
I would assume so because it has the same amtel chip as the bpiphany filco controllers.

Actually I'm trying to determine what bootloader he has on it.  The code is written to assume that the OEM bootloader is installed.  I just want to make sure that there isn't a custom bootloader so I don't brick someone's PCB.

I've always used FLIP to flash fw to mine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 16 September 2013, 08:15:54
Cool I'll send you something to try :)

I've gotta say, now that I've tinkered with it a bit, I'm really starting to want a GH60... I should have ordered one >.<
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JPG on Mon, 16 September 2013, 08:22:52
Cool I'll send you something to try :)

I've gotta say, now that I've tinkered with it a bit, I'm really starting to want a GH60... I should have ordered one >.<

Welcome to the club!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 16 September 2013, 10:33:48
Oh no you don't, me first in line for exras :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pixel5 on Mon, 16 September 2013, 10:49:33
Oh no you don't, me first in line for exras :p

Nerd I will fight you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 16 September 2013, 10:53:00
Oh no you don't, me first in line for exras :p

Nerd I will fight you.

LOL
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 16 September 2013, 11:21:08
Oh no you don't, me first in line for exras :p

Nerd I will fight you.

O
M
G


Ahahahaahaaa   :p

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:50:49
did the results from the pol get posted and I missed them?
edit: make sure you vote ... I posted the link below.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 16 September 2013, 13:52:15
A few things to consider when voting for your preferred color. The white is more resistant to visible marks if you ever scratch it, however it's more prone to burn marks from soldering. The matte black will show marks if you scratch it on something, but there won't be any brown coloration marks if you set your soldering iron temps too high. PCB color shouldn't matter much anyways, because it will be covered by a plate and/or keycaps. No one types without keycaps. With that said, take your pick:

poll for PCB color (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1JKrDOgc1dAA4p8IbNzcgPlv3U-Zo46U2RlCchVLfhkU/viewform)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Tue, 17 September 2013, 17:51:47
submitted an address change to WFD... please come online and confirm change...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Sun, 22 September 2013, 01:12:30
Just wondering when these are going to be shipping? I'm buying a PCB off someone in the GB :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 22 September 2013, 01:17:35
Just wondering when these are going to be shipping? I'm buying a PCB off someone in the GB :P

They are doing a Rev B prototype to double check since major revisions were made from Rev A. It would assume they would start production a few weeks after Rev B prototypes are tested and confirmed to be working.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Sun, 22 September 2013, 01:22:46
Just wondering when these are going to be shipping? I'm buying a PCB off someone in the GB :P

They are doing a Rev B prototype to double check since major revisions were made from Rev A. It would assume they would start production a few weeks after Rev B prototypes are tested and confirmed to be working.

Cheers Beast!

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sun, 22 September 2013, 17:44:09
Is WFD still in charge of this GB? I sent him my new shipping address because im moving again so im getting it sent to my parents. Havn't had a response yet

It looks like he hasnt been on in 3 weeks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 22 September 2013, 17:55:11
Is WFD still in charge of this GB? I sent him my new shipping address because im moving again so im getting it sent to my parents. Havn't had a response yet

It looks like he hasnt been on in 3 weeks

Try contacting Jdcapre since he is also involved in here for distribution.

So what happend to WFD? Did he tell somebody that he would be gone for some time?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tricheboars on Sun, 22 September 2013, 18:06:56
so what month shall i expect my pcbs now? i am fine with the wait, i would rather this be done right than fast.  i also have a huge interest in hooking up leds to my gh60s.

i just want to plan in my head for other accessories.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 22 September 2013, 18:13:53
I wanted one so I just sent it out to be fabbed.  Should have it in a few weeks.  Probably 3 months before GB.  Yay Internet!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 22 September 2013, 18:29:46
I wanted one so I just sent it out to be fabbed.  Should have it in a few weeks.  Probably 3 months before GB.  Yay Internet!

I'm waiting for when they get into production and komar007 uploads the final revision, I will then get them made myself as well
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 22 September 2013, 18:31:00
Just wondering when these are going to be shipping? I'm buying a PCB off someone in the GB :P

Who? I need the name, why did that person not sell it to me! I will pay higher markup :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 22 September 2013, 18:41:41
I wanted one so I just sent it out to be fabbed.  Should have it in a few weeks.  Probably 3 months before GB.  Yay Internet!

Okay so I didn't actually do that.  When I found out WFD got a whole pile of them I decided to wait because you know he'll do a good job.  But the point is I could have.  Development cycle on his one is very strange.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 23 September 2013, 17:57:30
MOZ i ordered 3 PCBs. I got ya brother. You put alot of hard work into group buys so i think u deserve to own one :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JPG on Mon, 23 September 2013, 18:12:12
MOZ i ordered 3 PCBs. I got ya brother. You put alot of hard work into group buys so i think u deserve to own one :)

Yea he deserves it! And if he ever don't need it and you have an extra, I will be pleased to sacrifice myself to the cause!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 23 September 2013, 19:28:16
MOZ i ordered 3 PCBs. I got ya brother. You put alot of hard work into group buys so i think u deserve to own one :)


(http://i.imgur.com/DJ4SHzt.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Tue, 24 September 2013, 20:11:26
I've got some questions... been thinking of these for a bit now.


Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 24 September 2013, 20:15:48
I've got some questions... been thinking of these for a bit now.

  • Is there going to be a different PCB for each layout (i.e. a different layout for ANSI HHKB-style vs ANSI Poker-style)?
    When people have ordered a PCB, is all that is necessary from that point for them to screw it into their desired case, and then put on keycaps?

One PCB for all layouts..that's the beauty of the gh60
depending on the type of pcb you get, the work load is different. the most common type ordered was the SMD pre-soldered, in which you just need to solder in switches and put in the stabilizers, and then put it in the case and put on the keycaps (etc., etc.)


  • Is this something that a person with zero experience in putting keyboards together could make a successful project out of?


As long as you read up and get a good idea from all the information here then it shouldn't really be all too hard. do you have any soldering experience at all?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 24 September 2013, 22:36:50
If you have zero experience, don't make your first build something you really care about.  It probably won't come out perfect.  GH-60 is actually good in that regard.  It's not like a rare Kustom :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Wed, 25 September 2013, 11:31:50

One PCB for all layouts..that's the beauty of the gh60
depending on the type of pcb you get, the work load is different. the most common type ordered was the SMD pre-soldered, in which you just need to solder in switches and put in the stabilizers, and then put it in the case and put on the keycaps (etc., etc.)

Okay, so when people purchased the assembly option they weren't paying someone to do all the soldering for them? I've done some soldering before but I'll be the first to admit it generally looks terrible when I do it.

As long as you read up and get a good idea from all the information here then it shouldn't really be all too hard. do you have any soldering experience at all?

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 25 September 2013, 12:16:37
Okay, so when people purchased the assembly option they weren't paying someone to do all the soldering for them? I've done some soldering before but I'll be the first to admit it generally looks terrible when I do it.

I believe with the gh60 assembly option, they paid for someone like jdcarpe to assemble it for them. That means soldering in switches, applying the plate, etc. that doesn't mean there are not other people who will do assembly, outside of the GB (like myself for example).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Wed, 25 September 2013, 21:23:33
Thanks again! So if I wanted to avoid the assembly part of things would it be good to just put an offer in the classifieds? This of course would be after the GB is over... don't have one yet. While it may be fun to do it myself, I'd rather have some degree of confidence that it gets done right :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 25 September 2013, 21:39:10
Thanks again! So if I wanted to avoid the assembly part of things would it be good to just put an offer in the classifieds? This of course would be after the GB is over... don't have one yet. While it may be fun to do it myself, I'd rather have some degree of confidence that it gets done right :P

You could look here first: Personal Services Directory (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.msg962858#msg962858)

:)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: miscsubbin on Thu, 03 October 2013, 09:30:47
What's the current status on this GB? I mean as far as distribution goes. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mauri on Thu, 03 October 2013, 09:34:08
Soon™
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 October 2013, 09:35:09
What's the current status on this GB? I mean as far as distribution goes. 

They are still checking/working with the final prototypes I believe.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 October 2013, 10:10:22
I'm hoping WFD will come out of hiding soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: battletux on Mon, 07 October 2013, 07:28:58
Does anyone have the link to the backlight module thread, can't seem to find it...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: thoere on Mon, 07 October 2013, 08:19:22
Will diodes be needed on this keyboard?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JBert on Mon, 07 October 2013, 08:24:51
As far as I know, diodes will be already soldered on unless you ordered the "do it all yourself" kit.

Also, why is this listed as in production when it is still in QA stage?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 07 October 2013, 08:29:49
As far as I know, diodes will be already soldered on unless you ordered the "do it all yourself" kit.

Also, why is this listed as in production when it is still in QA stage?

Because they are producing prototypes maybe?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 07 October 2013, 08:35:04
Diodes are presoldered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: phatdood9 on Mon, 07 October 2013, 12:05:30
Sorry if this has already been answered. When the gh60s are all shipped out, are there any plans to mass produce/sell them?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 07 October 2013, 12:13:14
Sorry if this has already been answered. When the gh60s are all shipped out, are there any plans to mass produce/sell them?
No plans to mass produce them.  However some vendors like feng and qtan bought a ton of PCB's, so you will be able to get one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Mon, 07 October 2013, 13:04:17
i think it was ek that was going to stock them after the GB

EDIT: It's http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/ (http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/) as SpAmRaY pointed out  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 07 October 2013, 13:18:16
i think it was ek that was going to stock them after the GB

That would be http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/ not www.elitekeyboards.com (http://www.elitekeyboards.com) :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: longweight on Mon, 07 October 2013, 13:24:35
Any ideas on how difficult it will be to get an ISO PCB and plate?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Mon, 07 October 2013, 13:25:53
i think it was ek that was going to stock them after the GB

That would be http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/ not www.elitekeyboards.com (http://www.elitekeyboards.com) :D

I stand corrected, my mistake  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 07 October 2013, 13:28:41
Any ideas on how difficult it will be to get an ISO PCB and plate?

i have a spare of both
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: longweight on Mon, 07 October 2013, 13:33:36
Would it be possible to buy them off of you?!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 07 October 2013, 13:36:33
Would it be possible to buy them off of you?!

yeah no problem at all sir
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: longweight on Mon, 07 October 2013, 13:37:38
God. Damn. You are awesome!


How do we do this?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 08 October 2013, 02:11:17
God. Damn. You are awesome!


How do we do this?

Be at an x location with a suitcase full of unmarked bills.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: vax on Tue, 08 October 2013, 03:02:40
**** my face this is awesome... One of the few things I regret to have missed...

Anyone got a ISO HHKB (fully assembled?) I could snack of their hands? :prettyplease:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 08 October 2013, 03:05:44
Sorry if this has already been answered. When the gh60s are all shipped out, are there any plans to mass produce/sell them?

Yep I believe MechanicalKeyboards.com will be selling them alongside the Phantom and ErgoDox PCB's.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 08 October 2013, 03:08:22
**** my face this is awesome... One of the few things I regret to have missed...

Anyone got a ISO HHKB (fully assembled?) I could snack of their hands? :prettyplease:

You're in luck sir


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47126.0

http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housingscases/57-gon-ns-gh60-iso-housing-only.html

Now, all you'd need is the actual pcb, which in theory should be easier than the plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: phatdood9 on Tue, 08 October 2013, 12:24:24
thanks for the info, will keep an eye on those retailers when the time comes :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: vax on Wed, 09 October 2013, 03:25:02
**** my face this is awesome... One of the few things I regret to have missed...

Anyone got a ISO HHKB (fully assembled?) I could snack of their hands? :prettyplease:

You're in luck sir


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47126.0

http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housingscases/57-gon-ns-gh60-iso-housing-only.html

Now, all you'd need is the actual pcb, which in theory should be easier than the plate.

Well that price is STEEP. I mean like **** me steep. Also not assembled...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JBert on Wed, 09 October 2013, 05:52:17
Also, why is this listed as in production when it is still in QA stage?

Because they are producing prototypes maybe?
They've been producing prototypes even before this group buy started, so that's not a valid reason.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mauri on Wed, 09 October 2013, 06:02:46
**** my face this is awesome... One of the few things I regret to have missed...

Anyone got a ISO HHKB (fully assembled?) I could snack of their hands? :prettyplease:

You're in luck sir


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47126.0

http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housingscases/57-gon-ns-gh60-iso-housing-only.html

Now, all you'd need is the actual pcb, which in theory should be easier than the plate.

Well that price is STEEP. I mean like **** me steep. Also not assembled...

Supply and demand, doubt the amount of ISO HHKB plate exceeds 50 and most intend to keep theirs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 09 October 2013, 12:17:14
is there still a chance we will see the GH60 by the end of 2013?, or are we looking at 2014 now?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 09 October 2013, 13:14:02
:'(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 09 October 2013, 13:29:22
Is there any official update on what is happening, reason for delays?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pixel5 on Wed, 09 October 2013, 13:38:43
Is there any official update on what is happening, reason for delays?

Waiting on WFD, from what I know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 09 October 2013, 13:40:37
I'm afraid nothing will move with this until WFD returns.

Unless komar wants to move forward with PCB manufacturing without prototype testing. I could take over the plate and stabilizer stuff if needed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:01:40
I'm afraid nothing will move with this until WFD returns.

Unless komar wants to move forward with PCB manufacturing without prototype testing. I could take over the plate and stabilizer stuff if needed.

I really wouldn't like to move forward without the prototypes. I'm just wondering what's happened.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: T0ken on Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:08:39
So, WFD is the only one with Rev. B prototypes?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:15:47
So, WFD is the only one with Rev. B prototypes?

That's a fact, Jack.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:28:39
I wonder if he knows that he's holding all of this up.  He should have atleast PMed jd and maybe sent the prototype over to him for testing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:29:36
I'm afraid nothing will move with this until WFD returns.

Unless komar wants to move forward with PCB manufacturing without prototype testing. I could take over the plate and stabilizer stuff if needed.

I volunteer myself for a new round of prototyping. I have cases, switches, soldering iron ready to roll.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:33:28
I'm afraid nothing will move with this until WFD returns.

Unless komar wants to move forward with PCB manufacturing without prototype testing. I could take over the plate and stabilizer stuff if needed.

I volunteer myself for a new round of prototyping. I have cases, switches, soldering iron ready to roll.

^^ daniel you sure you've got the time for that commitment :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:48:05
I'm afraid nothing will move with this until WFD returns.

Unless komar wants to move forward with PCB manufacturing without prototype testing. I could take over the plate and stabilizer stuff if needed.

I volunteer myself for a new round of prototyping. I have cases, switches, soldering iron ready to roll.

Unfortunately, that doesn't help our situation much. What we really need is a volunteer to show up at WFD's residence and get the prototypes from him and ship them out. Barring that, I'm not really sure how we proceed.

komar, if you want, we could sell some prototype opportunities to fund the manufacture of more prototype boards, which you could ship to me for distribution.

TJ, are you watching this thread? Do you know if WFD has had plates made already, as in you sent the money for them somewhere?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:49:28
I'm afraid nothing will move with this until WFD returns.

Unless komar wants to move forward with PCB manufacturing without prototype testing. I could take over the plate and stabilizer stuff if needed.

I volunteer myself for a new round of prototyping. I have cases, switches, soldering iron ready to roll.

Unfortunately, that doesn't help our situation much. What we really need is a volunteer to show up at WFD's residence and get the prototypes from him and ship them out. Barring that, I'm not really sure how we proceed.

komar, if you want, we could sell some prototype opportunities to fund the manufacture of more prototype boards, which you could ship to me for distribution.

TJ, are you watching this thread? Do you know if WFD has had plates made already, as in you sent the money for them somewhere?

i will buy a prototyping opportunity if that happens, i have everything sat here ready to go
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:52:07
ItsBc found him whenever he posted a few weeks ago.  Maybe he could drop a line?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JPG on Wed, 09 October 2013, 15:02:50
I would be in for a prototype too if you don't need a 100% guarantee that I will manage to solder it properly!

I have switches, a cable, soldering stuff, no experience and balls!  :p

I have no case to test it with, but I could at least make sure I can solder switches and plug it in! A poker plate would help too else I will need to work on desoldering skill a lot after!

So all in all, I would like a prototype if you need a number to finance them, but I am not the best candidate to really test it!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 09 October 2013, 15:03:35
Am I still getting a rev. B?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: aggiejy on Wed, 09 October 2013, 15:08:55
I've got all parts and everything ready to go for a prototype as well, if you guys do want to raise some money to fund something.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 October 2013, 15:11:29
I've got all parts and everything ready to go for a prototype as well, if you guys do want to raise some money to fund something.

^^ Thinking about this, I do to actually. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 09 October 2013, 17:24:32
I am in for a prototype and have two plates ready to go.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 09 October 2013, 18:19:33
I am in for a prototype and have two plates ready to go.

same here
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 09 October 2013, 18:19:39
I have so much invested in multiple GH60s that it exceeds the money I spent on my multiple ergodox.

I wish there was something I could do, out of money and feeling helpless.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 09 October 2013, 18:33:29

I have so much invested in multiple GH60s that it exceeds the money I spent on my multiple ergodox.

I wish there was something I could do, out of money and feeling helpless.

+1
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 09 October 2013, 18:45:36
I have some money, but not exactly sure what I can do.  Sell me a prototype? 

I'd ordered three PCBs, and since then I've been collecting the switches, cases, etc. I'd need to assemble them.  Now what?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: LONGZILLA on Wed, 09 October 2013, 18:54:48
I have so much invested in multiple GH60s that it exceeds the money I spent on my multiple ergodox.

I wish there was something I could do, out of money and feeling helpless.

I believe there are a few classifieds looking to buy in on GH60 PCBs
/shameless-self-plug
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 09 October 2013, 20:21:02
Guys, to be clear, this GB is not fubar'd. It's just not moving right now, and it should be. There are plans being put into motion to get this moving forward again. Rest assured, everyone will get what they ordered. All hope is not lost.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 09 October 2013, 20:45:49
I would rather they get it right the before they send out 100+ PCB's.

I've worked in QA for hardware and software before and it is a long process but worth it when the results are 110%.

Thanks for all the hard work you are all putting into this GB. Much different than a set of keycaps.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JPG on Wed, 09 October 2013, 20:48:14
I would rather they get it right the before they send out 100+ PCB's.

I've worked in QA for hardware and software before and it is a long process but worth it when the results are 110%.

Thanks for all the hard work you are all putting into this GB. Much different than a set of keycaps.

It's more like 700+ pcb's so all the more reason to be sure it's all perfect.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 09 October 2013, 20:50:07
306 individual orders...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 09 October 2013, 20:54:50
well, i guess another run of the b. prototypes should be made and sent to jd or somebody who is willing to send them out to the testers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: demik on Wed, 09 October 2013, 21:25:33
im going to be mighty mouse for you people.

I GOT THIS.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: meiosis on Wed, 09 October 2013, 21:53:23
im going to be mighty mouse for you people.

I GOT THIS.

pick me up please
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: demik on Wed, 09 October 2013, 21:55:28
im going to be mighty mouse for you people.

I GOT THIS.

pick me up please

ROOOAD TRIP
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 10 October 2013, 01:27:30
I would be willing to chip in for a prototype or help in anyway AT ALL possible.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 10 October 2013, 02:47:40
im going to be mighty mouse for you people.

I GOT THIS.

pick me up please

ROOOAD TRIP

Seriously, I might drive back up to NorCal if there is nothing to do this weekend. I'll meet you at Rowland Heights or Irvine where we pick up mkawa and then spend our time skipping clacks into the ocean.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 10 October 2013, 02:51:16
im going to be mighty mouse for you people.

I GOT THIS.

pick me up please

ROOOAD TRIP

Seriously, I might drive back up to NorCal if there is nothing to do this weekend. I'll meet you at Rowland Heights or Irvine where we pick up mkawa and then spend our time skipping clacks into the ocean.

Ohh, count me in.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 10 October 2013, 03:57:13
Is WFD actually OK? 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 10 October 2013, 03:57:47
Is WFD actually OK? 

Yeah he posted last week saying that he was just getting slammed with work and life, he'll be back soon enough.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: TDub on Thu, 10 October 2013, 05:35:33
If its still being considered, I would be interested in a prototype.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 10 October 2013, 07:29:06
Is WFD actually OK? 

Yeah he posted last week saying that he was just getting slammed with work and life, he'll be back soon enough.

That's alright then - life does happen to all of us from time to time...  Is there not someone who could take over this until things settle down for him?  I'm mostly thinking to take the pressure off WFD for a bit - by the sounds of things a MASSIVE gb might not be that helpful to be running if things are that crazy at home / work...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: do_Og@n on Thu, 10 October 2013, 07:47:30
If its still being considered, I would be interested in a prototype.

Ooooo....Oooooo....me too!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 10 October 2013, 11:41:22
...everyone is interested in a prototype lol...  :blank: :blank: :cool:


it's a question of if WFD will get testing started .. we need him to..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 October 2013, 12:06:29
The problem with "open beta" prototyping is that everyone wants a proto, just so they can have their GH60 "first." But in the first round, not everyone even built theirs up, do to lack of DIY assembly skills. Also, WFD had to solder almost everyone's SMD components, because hardly anyone was comfortable doing that. And to top it off, there wasn't much testing done, just people who wanted one to say they had a prototype. Most of the actual testing of them came from komar, myself, WFD, IvanIvanovich, Glissant, hasu, and dirge (sorry if I left anyone out). That's why we decided on doing a closed "beta" for this round, so we could work out any actual bugs.

Anyway, we are working on a solution. Hopefully I will have an update within a week or so.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 10 October 2013, 12:36:48
The problem with "open beta" prototyping is that everyone wants a proto, just so they can have their GH60 "first." But in the first round, not everyone even built theirs up, do to lack of DIY assembly skills. Also, WFD had to solder almost everyone's SMD components, because hardly anyone was comfortable doing that. And to top it off, there wasn't much testing done, just people who wanted one to say they had a prototype. Most of the actual testing of them came from komar, myself, WFD, IvanIvanovich, Glissant, hasu, and dirge (sorry if I left anyone out). That's why we decided on doing a closed "beta" for this round, so we could work out any actual bugs.

Anyway, we are working on a solution. Hopefully I will have an update within a week or so.
I was thinking the same thing lol.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 10 October 2013, 13:19:48
what I was thinking is that if someone really wants a rev b. bad enough they can always send the files to oshpark and pay them to have a few made. yes it will be way more expensive but they will have it in purple :D

demik I like the new avatar bro :D
(http://p.twimg.com/A5w5ME5CYAAznol.jpg:large)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Tym on Thu, 10 October 2013, 13:24:45
Oh I thought she had braces on huehuehue
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: demik on Thu, 10 October 2013, 15:39:06
im going to be mighty mouse for you people.

I GOT THIS.

pick me up please

ROOOAD TRIP

Seriously, I might drive back up to NorCal if there is nothing to do this weekend. I'll meet you at Rowland Heights or Irvine where we pick up mkawa and then spend our time skipping clacks into the ocean.

im going to be mighty mouse for you people.

I GOT THIS.

pick me up please

ROOOAD TRIP

Seriously, I might drive back up to NorCal if there is nothing to do this weekend. I'll meet you at Rowland Heights or Irvine where we pick up mkawa and then spend our time skipping clacks into the ocean.

Ohh, count me in.
I am just waiting for the okay from jd to go pick them up
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 10 October 2013, 16:03:06
what I was thinking is that if someone really wants a rev b. bad enough they can always send the files to oshpark and pay them to have a few made. yes it will be way more expensive but they will have it in purple :D

demik I like the new avatar bro :D
Show Image
(http://p.twimg.com/A5w5ME5CYAAznol.jpg:large)


Purple rev B
http://oshpark.com/shared_projects/tH85WHtP

design will cost $209.25 per set of three.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: demik on Thu, 10 October 2013, 16:04:19
Domo I like your gold fronts pic better. Mine looks constipated.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 10 October 2013, 16:06:03

Purple rev B
http://oshpark.com/shared_projects/tH85WHtP (http://oshpark.com/shared_projects/tH85WHtP)

design will cost $209.25 per set of three.

Too bad that doesn't get all those nice little SMD parts soldered on :o

I bet JD orders some just so he can have a purple PCB  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 10 October 2013, 16:16:43
i think selling prototypes is a horrible idea; for one it would anger those who are in the queue for one already like me because if the prototypes are fully functional that pretty much means someone skipped the queue and will potentially sell it for profit in the classified down the road. I hope WFD comes back.....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 October 2013, 16:19:30
i think selling prototypes is a horrible idea; for one it would anger those who are in the queue for one already like me because if the prototypes are fully functional that pretty much means someone skipped the queue and will potentially sell it for profit in the classified down the road. I hope WFD comes back.....

Well, I can tell you that there is already one known bug in Rev B, so the protos aren't exactly fully functional. Even if we were to sell any prototypes, it would be with "strings attached" so to speak.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 10 October 2013, 20:42:27
Domo I like your gold fronts pic better. Mine looks constipated.

actually I like yours better for that reason :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 11 October 2013, 17:34:00
Really sorry I put this GB to a halt for almost 2 months. I'll have the prototypes sent out asap, and you should already know if you're getting one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 11 October 2013, 18:05:08
My body is ready.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 11 October 2013, 18:07:12
wow I wanted a prototype to test out all the firmwares :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 11 October 2013, 21:05:19
let'sssss rumble  :-*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 12 October 2013, 01:52:46
its way long past after the deadline but the order form is still active. Does this mean people can still place an order? here's me hoping it is... :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 12 October 2013, 02:14:05
its way long past after the deadline but the order form is still active. Does this mean people can still place an order? here's me hoping it is... :)

Ordering is closed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: n0rvig on Sun, 13 October 2013, 00:48:28
its way long past after the deadline but the order form is still active. Does this mean people can still place an order? here's me hoping it is... :)

Ordering is closed.

At least give the guy a little hope. Orders are closed, however you'll be able to buy boards from venders like Feng or MechanicalKeyboards.com
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 13 October 2013, 00:57:52
its way long past after the deadline but the order form is still active. Does this mean people can still place an order? here's me hoping it is... :)

Ordering is closed.

At least give the guy a little hope. Orders are closed, however you'll be able to buy boards from venders like Feng or MechanicalKeyboards.com

Oh Really? Feng or Mechanicalkeyboard.com 'll sell GH60 PCB? When?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Sun, 13 October 2013, 01:01:56
its way long past after the deadline but the order form is still active. Does this mean people can still place an order? here's me hoping it is... :)

Ordering is closed.

At least give the guy a little hope. Orders are closed, however you'll be able to buy boards from venders like Feng or MechanicalKeyboards.com

To be fair that is probably a fair way off yet, I know Feng got a bunch of the current batch but I doubt MK will start selling them until all the bugs are worked out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Sun, 13 October 2013, 08:46:58
its way long past after the deadline but the order form is still active. Does this mean people can still place an order? here's me hoping it is... :)

Ordering is closed.

At least give the guy a little hope. Orders are closed, however you'll be able to buy boards from venders like Feng or MechanicalKeyboards.com

Oh Really? Feng or Mechanicalkeyboard.com 'll sell GH60 PCB? When?

When the GB is done i think
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 13 October 2013, 08:58:49
Oh. I wanna buy big quantity. I 'll wait & hope that is truth :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: numiru on Mon, 14 October 2013, 19:54:17
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzu99sHLMO1qmb3vvo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: AlexJP on Mon, 14 October 2013, 20:49:20
Is it still possible to order this?
 ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 14 October 2013, 20:53:40
Is it still possible to order this?
 ;)

Have you read the thread? There is a post giving you your answer literally TWO posts above yours.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: AlexJP on Mon, 14 October 2013, 21:04:21
thanks... I read 92 pages... forgot the last one ...

 ;)
 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 16 October 2013, 09:59:26
The problem with "open beta" prototyping is that everyone wants a proto, just so they can have their GH60 "first." But in the first round, not everyone even built theirs up, do to lack of DIY assembly skills. Also, WFD had to solder almost everyone's SMD components, because hardly anyone was comfortable doing that. And to top it off, there wasn't much testing done, just people who wanted one to say they had a prototype. Most of the actual testing of them came from komar, myself, WFD, IvanIvanovich, Glissant, hasu, and dirge (sorry if I left anyone out). That's why we decided on doing a closed "beta" for this round, so we could work out any actual bugs.

Anyway, we are working on a solution. Hopefully I will have an update within a week or so.
Thanks for thinking of me in regards to testing the rev a pcb, but I really didn't do much. I tested it out in the only ways I knew how. Solder and desolder, testing funky firmware stuff on different platforms, but that was about it.
Now that I have the experience I could have done more. Only problem would've been time.
Glad to hear that things are moving along though.
Best of luck on solving the issue :).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: v4mp1 on Thu, 17 October 2013, 15:36:29
Gimme gimme gimme gimme  :'(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Fri, 18 October 2013, 12:57:05
Can't wait for WFD to reappear  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 18 October 2013, 13:19:31
Can't wait for WFD to reappear  ;D

He is back

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49600.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: thoere on Fri, 18 October 2013, 20:54:48
So now that WFD is back, when should we expect to see shipments going out?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 18 October 2013, 21:00:00
So now that WFD is back, when should we expect to see shipments going out?

They still have to finish beta testing and finalizing the PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 18 October 2013, 21:06:35
Ok, so have they ordered the PCB components and switches yet?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 18 October 2013, 21:11:02
Ok, so have they ordered the PCB components and switches yet?

So now that WFD is back, when should we expect to see shipments going out?

They still have to finish beta testing and finalizing the PCB.



literally one post above yours.....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 18 October 2013, 21:15:05
Yeah, I read that... but are they really going to wait until the last minute to order them?  The GB has been closed for a while and only thing going on is...well the "testing".  These components and switches aren't going to arrive any faster than the testing, so why aren't they ordered yet? 

The last thing we want are the PCBs being done and we have to wait for the components.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 18 October 2013, 22:31:20
Really?!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 19 October 2013, 01:18:52
Yeah, I read that... but are they really going to wait until the last minute to order them?  The GB has been closed for a while and only thing going on is...well the "testing".  These components and switches aren't going to arrive any faster than the testing, so why aren't they ordered yet? 

The last thing we want are the PCBs being done and we have to wait for the components.
I don't think you're in a position to question the management of this buy.  These guys know what they're doing.  Let them do their thing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mauri on Sat, 19 October 2013, 05:00:14
By the way, have the switches from 7bit arrived yet? Just wondering if you guys are drowning into switches :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: battletux on Sat, 19 October 2013, 13:34:48

Well, I can tell you that there is already one known bug in Rev B, so the protos aren't exactly fully functional. Even if we were to sell any prototypes, it would be with "strings attached" so to speak.

Out of interest, what is the bug with the rev B's?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Sat, 19 October 2013, 13:46:12
They don't know them yet (if they exist) - that's the problem.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: T0ken on Sat, 19 October 2013, 14:02:45
They don't know them yet (if they exist) - that's the problem.

As jdcarpe said above, there is one confirmed bug. Someone independently had a Rev. B manufactured over in the "making stuff together" thread. He was complaining about something with the expansion connector (I think) and komar007 confirmed that it is a bug.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: neoezekiel on Wed, 23 October 2013, 09:37:20
I am assuming that there will eventually be a round 2 for the GH60, just have to be patient.....

so hard to be patient thought :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mauri on Wed, 23 October 2013, 11:05:44
I am assuming that there will eventually be a round 2 for the GH60, just have to be patient.....

so hard to be patient thought :(

sprit is organizing another 60% GB, check IC
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 23 October 2013, 11:46:08
This GB really went off the rails
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 23 October 2013, 11:59:24
This GB really went off the rails

It was going along fine for a while. :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 23 October 2013, 12:05:12
This GB really went off the rails

im not sure a slight delay due to personal commitments constitutes going off the rails, this is a huge task to undertake and i think a great job is being done
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 23 October 2013, 12:06:29
I wouldn't say off the rails either...slight bump in the road brothers..we are almost there...just have to get the focus back from some people  ^-^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:05:51
I wouldn't say off the rails either...slight bump in the road brothers..we are almost there...just have to get the focus back from some people  ^-^

I agree. This is more a bump in the road

(http://www.funnytreat.com/pictures/animated/Bump.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:07:56
More like an 18 wheeler running over a squirrel.... "did we hit something?" ....."nawwww"
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 23 October 2013, 14:10:33
More like an 18 wheeler running over a Smartcar.... "did we hit something?" ....."nawwww"

ftfy
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mkaito on Fri, 25 October 2013, 10:50:53
Bought myself a Slimblade and a Razer Sabertooth to play with while waiting for this. I could have taken that money and bought a wooden case for the GH60 instead, but I totally wanted something to play with  :D

So how are we doing? I scanned the thread and caught something about a bug in the beta, and WFD having personal issues, but being back. Are we stuck? Anything we can do to help?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:30:23
So how are we doing? I scanned the thread and caught something about a bug in the beta, and WFD having personal issues, but being back. Are we stuck? Anything we can do to help?

WFD was going to send the prototypes out for testing. Based on the results there's one of two possibilities: There's enough changes needed to require a third revision that'll have separate testing, or the changes that are required are trivial so the design will be finalized and mass production will begin. From there it's a matter of shipping, assembly and shipping back out, so there's still a lot of work to be done.

None of this requires your direct input AFAIK.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 25 October 2013, 13:38:43

... changes that are required are trivial so the design will be finalized and mass production will begin. From there it's a matter of shipping, assembly and shipping back out, so there's still a lot of work to be done.

Thanks for that nice, brief summary. We have this well in hand now. No need to worry at all.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 25 October 2013, 15:49:31
Everything is fine, guys. The prototypes are being shipped, some people have tested the rev. B "unofficially" by getting the PCB made on their own. This has shown one simple error, but otherwise the board works AFAIK.
After we get the prototypes, we need to make sure there are no problems fitting various existing and new cases and we're good to go.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: precarious on Sat, 26 October 2013, 15:53:23
This GB really went off the rails

I see we're still providing uselessly inaccurate subjective impressions in place of thoughtful, cogent analysis.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tlt on Tue, 29 October 2013, 13:18:44
 You have to produce test runs before volume production. Hardware patches is much worse than software patches ;-)
I rather wait an have a perfect PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 29 October 2013, 18:55:56
You have to produce test runs before volume production. Hardware patches is much worse than software patches ;-)
I rather wait an have a perfect PCB.

Exactly. The people involved in running this GB are all the guarantee I need that it will be done, and done right.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: kinruan on Tue, 29 October 2013, 21:55:35
so what is really going on?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 29 October 2013, 22:00:26
so what is really going on?

(http://madeofwynn.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/picard-facepalm.jpg)

Seriously. Read the thread.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 29 October 2013, 22:03:44
so what is really going on?

They spent our money on cheap booze and smokes, now they are stalling obviously.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: swill on Tue, 29 October 2013, 22:10:10
so what is really going on?

They spent our money on cheap booze and smokes, now they are stalling obviously.

I heard they are waiting for the market to correct because they stuck it all in mutual funds...

Haha...  I guess 94 pages of posts can be daunting, but you only need to read the last 10-20 to be pretty well informed...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: do_Og@n on Tue, 29 October 2013, 22:14:59
With all the money we spent they should at least invest in a 12 pack of Pabst....not Natural Ice!

On a serious note everybody....it will be more than worth the wait. These guys are putting so much time into this that they don't deserve any grief.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 29 October 2013, 22:19:10
With all the money we spent they should at least invest in a 12 pack of Pabst....not Natural Ice!

On a serious note everybody....it will be more than worth the wait. These guys are putting so much time into this that they don't deserve any grief.

Not to mention if you're in that much of a hurry for a 60% PCB there are two other GB's which will be shipping MUCH sooner than this.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Loligagger on Tue, 29 October 2013, 23:04:24
Are votes for the PCB color still being taken in? Which one's leading?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Kdash on Wed, 30 October 2013, 08:56:53
Everything is fine, guys. The prototypes are being shipped, some people have tested the rev. B "unofficially" by getting the PCB made on their own. This has shown one simple error, but otherwise the board works AFAIK.
After we get the prototypes, we need to make sure there are no problems fitting various existing and new cases and we're good to go.
Yes, komar. everything is OK!I made the rev B version on my own. the keyboard is fantastic. thank you !
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 30 October 2013, 10:19:30
Everything is fine, guys. The prototypes are being shipped, some people have tested the rev. B "unofficially" by getting the PCB made on their own. This has shown one simple error, but otherwise the board works AFAIK.
After we get the prototypes, we need to make sure there are no problems fitting various existing and new cases and we're good to go.
Yes, komar. everything is OK!I made the rev B version on my own. the keyboard is fantastic. thank you !
Good to know!
Which case did you use for it?

SIDE NODE: with the next keyboard I design, I'm going to drop the testing part completely. I'll just release all the production files and wait a month or two until the most impatient people go to the effort of making it on their own. This will assert the board is correct, and then we'll start the production. I think it'll be not only cheaper but also faster. I'm not complaining at WFD here, just shipping things twice makes things last ages.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 30 October 2013, 10:35:50
OH MY GOD! Time to start my new thread - "Where in the world is GH60!?"

And I will call GH60s work. And I will send my girlfriend to it's house.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 30 October 2013, 10:40:09
Are votes for the PCB color still being taken in? Which one's leading?

Obviously it should be purple.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Kdash on Wed, 30 October 2013, 11:10:34
Everything is fine, guys. The prototypes are being shipped, some people have tested the rev. B "unofficially" by getting the PCB made on their own. This has shown one simple error, but otherwise the board works AFAIK.
After we get the prototypes, we need to make sure there are no problems fitting various existing and new cases and we're good to go.
Yes, komar. everything is OK!I made the rev B version on my own. the keyboard is fantastic. thank you !
Good to know!
Which case did you use for it?

SIDE NODE: with the next keyboard I design, I'm going to drop the testing part completely. I'll just release all the production files and wait a month or two until the most impatient people go to the effort of making it on their own. This will assert the board is correct, and then we'll start the production. I think it'll be not only cheaper but also faster. I'm not complaining at WFD here, just shipping things twice makes things last ages.
I used the Plastic Poker2 case, it fits well~ and Imsto aluminum tray also fits!
I tested the GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case,it fits well too, but I think it may need a little modification, it cant't fit poker2's PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MarkPharaoh on Wed, 30 October 2013, 12:17:43
Soooo....anyone looking to get rid of their order? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 October 2013, 12:20:12
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 30 October 2013, 15:12:36
JD and a few others should already have the proto PCBs by now. The international ones will take a little longer to arrive.

The GB got delayed several times, the past month was my fault, but everything is still in motion.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 30 October 2013, 15:14:31
JD and a few others should already have the proto PCBs by now. The international ones will take a little longer to arrive.

Yup, got mine in the mail today and should be soldering it together later tonight
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 30 October 2013, 15:27:05
Got mine in the mail today, as well. Will build tonight if possible.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 30 October 2013, 15:36:02
JD and a few others should already have the proto PCBs by now. The international ones will take a little longer to arrive.

Yup, got mine in the mail today and should be soldering it together later tonight

Got mine in the mail today, as well. Will build tonight if possible.
Can't wait to see this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: osxoep on Wed, 30 October 2013, 17:57:58
I will have at least 1 extra for sure, so if any UK/EU people want one I'll have a thread up in the classifieds when it arrives.

I can't even remember what I ordered because I picked up a spare order too.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mattics on Wed, 30 October 2013, 18:10:06
Just the PCB? Or switches, plate, case etc?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: osxoep on Wed, 30 October 2013, 18:13:52
It depends on what I ordered :P

Most certainly not a case though, I only have 1 case with another on order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tricheboars on Sun, 03 November 2013, 00:47:17
would love to see a soldered picture of your protos.  pretty please with sugar on top.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: thoere on Sun, 03 November 2013, 19:16:53
Has anyone finished building theirs? I want to see gh60 pics too  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 03 November 2013, 19:52:06
Soooo....anyone looking to get rid of their order? :)

If you can find someone who wants to sell you a PCB I've got a poker plate and costar stab set I no longer want.

No longer available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 05 November 2013, 16:46:12
I can't solder mine up. I don't have any PCB mounted switches unless I desolder my Dolch (which I could since I'll be getting a custom PCB and have the plate already)....


and I can't use PCB mount since I don't have a south swedish ISO 150 with short right shift plate made........
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 05 November 2013, 16:50:04
I can't solder mine up. I don't have any PCB mounted switches unless I desolder my Dolch (which I could since I'll be getting a custom PCB and have the plate already)....


and I can't use PCB mount since I don't have a south swedish ISO 150 with short right shift plate made........

I haven't built mine up, yet, either. For the same reason. The only PCB-mount switches I have have jumpers in them, which I am too lazy to pull out right now.

If you want to do a couple plates quickly, I will send you the files. (Like I already said I was going to do)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 05 November 2013, 16:51:19
I can't solder mine up. I don't have any PCB mounted switches unless I desolder my Dolch (which I could since I'll be getting a custom PCB and have the plate already)....


and I can't use PCB mount since I don't have a south swedish ISO 150 with short right shift plate made........

I haven't built mine up, yet, either. For the same reason. The only PCB-mount switches I have have jumpers in them, which I am too lazy to pull out right now.

If you want to do a couple plates quickly, I will send you the files. (Like I already said I was going to do)

Naw, I was only kidding. I have a plate that fits my case with a poker layout that I'm just about to solder


I would like to try an ISO150, but I'll just do it on my Rev. A.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Flamingchook on Tue, 05 November 2013, 17:21:05
Somebody send these guys pcb mount switches! :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: thoere on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:59:51
I really want to see some gh60 pics, has anyone finished? Sorry for the impatience  ^-^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 06 November 2013, 20:11:22
I really want to see some gh60 pics, has anyone finished? Sorry for the impatience  ^-^

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39702.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: sprit on Wed, 06 November 2013, 20:28:25
I really want to see some gh60 pics, has anyone finished? Sorry for the impatience  ^-^

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39702.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39702.0)


I Love GH60,  Deadly !  That showed me a way to GH.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: 7bit on Sat, 09 November 2013, 12:51:40
Quote from: plasticchair
WHERE ARE MY SWITCHES, DID YOU SEND THEM YET? #0356
Thanks (:
Hint: He ordered MXDARKGREYP/NW (MX1A-21NW)
:roll:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: thoere on Sat, 09 November 2013, 15:29:42
Quote from: plasticchair
WHERE ARE MY SWITCHES, DID YOU SEND THEM YET? #0356
Thanks (:
Hint: He ordered MXDARKGREYP/NW (MX1A-21NW)
:roll:
Hi 7bit, just a quick question. How are the switches we ordered from the GB on Deskthority linked to our gh60 orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 09 November 2013, 21:46:40
GH60 proto for sale on taobao? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 09 November 2013, 21:50:13
:eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: swill on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:03:08
GH60 proto for sale on taobao? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978

Wow.  Includes switches and keycaps for $74.  (According to google translate)  Crazy...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:06:44
EDIT: Didn't realise it includes switches and caps, man that's cheap.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:07:11
Damn double post.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: swill on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:30:59
EDIT: Didn't realise it includes switches and caps, man that's cheap.

Doesn't say anything about a controller though and I see it does not have stabilizers, so it definitely still needs components...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:32:50
controller's there
(http://i.imgur.com/PDFVIMQ.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:33:45
The controller controls

EDIT: that was meant to be a steam message

multitasking is hard
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: swill on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:38:48
controller's there
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/PDFVIMQ.png)


Your right.  I didn't actually check for it, I was too busy trying to understand the google translate.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: polarpigs on Sat, 09 November 2013, 22:40:00
EDIT: Didn't realise it includes switches and caps, man that's cheap.

Doesn't say anything about a controller though and I see it does not have stabilizers, so it definitely still needs components...

It does come with stabilizers, says on the page. And comes with MX Whites
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 09 November 2013, 23:22:12
 :eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 09 November 2013, 23:27:06
Anyone else find it weird that the silk screening is black on the taobao one, but it's red on the prototypes?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33130.0;attach=43059;image

I smell something fishy..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: kmiller8 on Sat, 09 November 2013, 23:29:32
Anyone else find it weird that the silk screening is black on the taobao one, but it's red on the prototypes?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33130.0;attach=43059;image

I smell something fishy..

something fishy like the files are open source and anyone can go get them printed in whatever colors they wanted?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 09 November 2013, 23:31:56
Anyone else find it weird that the silk screening is black on the taobao one, but it's red on the prototypes?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33130.0;attach=43059;image

I smell something fishy..

 :eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 09 November 2013, 23:32:13
Anyone else find it weird that the silk screening is black on the taobao one, but it's red on the prototypes?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33130.0;attach=43059;image

I smell something fishy..

something fishy like the files are open source and anyone can go get them printed in whatever colors they wanted?

 :eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 09 November 2013, 23:41:52
something fishy like the files are open source and anyone can go get them printed in whatever colors they wanted?
Yes, I know that.. No need to be so condescending, man. I'm not a dunce.

I just find it weird that someone would go and have a PCB made which, for a one-off, would be expensive, and then they go and sell it along with switches and keycaps for a ridiculously low price.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 09 November 2013, 23:42:22
GH60 proto for sale on taobao? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978)

This is definitely not from me, because I know who I sent them to. It's not even the same as our batch. Those ones have black letters, the one I originally posted (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg1017557#msg1017557) has red text.

I think this is boarderline shady to capitalize on the fact that no one has one yet, so they can sell it for profit. Komar was the one that designed it. Open source hardware has advantages where others can help crosscheck the PCB or help test it, but the downside is that there are opportunistic people like this that steal someone else's work to profit.
 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 09 November 2013, 23:43:05
something fishy like the files are open source and anyone can go get them printed in whatever colors they wanted?
Yes, I know that.. No need to be so condescending, man. I'm not a dunce.

I just find it weird that someone would go and have a PCB made which, for a one-off, would be expensive, and then they go and sell it along with switches and keycaps for a ridiculously low price.

It's possible that they can have it made for super cheap over there, right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 09 November 2013, 23:45:27
GH60 proto for sale on taobao? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978)

This is definitely not from me, because I know who I sent them to. It's not even the same as our batch. Those ones have black letters, the one I originally posted (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg1017557#msg1017557) has red text.

I think this is boarderline shady to capitalize on the fact that no one has one yet, so they can sell it for profit. Komar was the one that designed it. Open source hardware has advantages where others can help crosscheck the PCB or help test it, but the downside is that there are opportunistic people like this that steal someone else's work to profit.
 

:eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 09 November 2013, 23:48:11
It's possible that they can have it made for super cheap over there, right?
Possibly, but they're selling it for $70. Fully assembled with switches. They can't be making profit off that.. And even if they are it would be extremely marginal.

The seller has 0 feedback too (unless google translate is deceiving me). The whole thing just doesn't make sense, unless the seller actually had it made for themself because they wanted to use it, then decided they disliked it, which is of course possible..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: salmo on Sun, 10 November 2013, 08:27:29
They may just be cutting some corners, and they're probably not paying much in the way of shipping for the individual components coming to them, etc.  And it looks like they're just making a few bucks on them.  Keep in mind, just shipping that thing to a proxy and then to the US or UK would add a bunch to it, so it's probably not that far off what we're paying here and it's of questionable quality.

Also I think the word "stealing" is a bit harsh.  They're well within their rights to do this.  If someone else making or selling is offensive, then "open source" probably isn't the way to go.  Plus this is a group buy, so it's not like someone is taking all these potential profits away from Komar & co.  I think we should be excited that this thing we've been a part of is garnering interest outside this community.

I don't worry about other folks getting theirs first because I want to get the one that was developed and built here.  There have been hiccups, but I'm excited about the quality of this thing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: sprit on Sun, 10 November 2013, 08:33:43
(库存 1件)  = 1 stock exist  = he has just 1 piece

http://shop107225847.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.1000126.d21.cyyrQM (http://shop107225847.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.1000126.d21.cyyrQM)
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 08:47:29
Strange... Someone had one made and doesn't want it anymore?
Anyway, I don't mind what's happening at all. That's the point of OSHardware. I just hope that the GB participants understand why their boards will come later and were more expensive. You are actually funders of the project, you're paying for the logistics, prototyping, etc. Anyone who produces the board on their own won't have to pay these costs anymore, because it's all been done for them.
This makes me wonder if it wouldn't make sense to design our next project of this kind in a smaller group without publishing anything before the group-buy ends. It would probably be more fair for the participants if they got their orders before anyone else.
But publishing everything has advantages, we all know that, hopefully.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Mine on Sun, 10 November 2013, 20:04:32
GH60 proto for sale on taobao? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978

Wow.  Includes switches and keycaps for $74.  (According to google translate)  Crazy...
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-4533670328.1.ZwrTZd&id=35861870171
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 10 November 2013, 20:53:43
GH60 proto for sale on taobao? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978

Wow.  Includes switches and keycaps for $74.  (According to google translate)  Crazy...
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-4533670328.1.ZwrTZd&id=35861870171

The TEX case on that one gave me the info I needed to deduce that these are from the Taiwanese group buy. It wasn't really publicized, but I knew it was happening. I think they used the Rev B PCB files, so the backlighting bug likely exists in these. I guess the Taiwanese were too anxious to get them to wait for the final production revision. Although, I haven't talked with the Taiwanese organizer, so this just speculation on my part.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 10 November 2013, 21:13:05
The weird/cool thing is they went for the same white colored PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Mine on Sun, 10 November 2013, 21:35:54
GH60 proto for sale on taobao? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978

Wow.  Includes switches and keycaps for $74.  (According to google translate)  Crazy...
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-4533670328.1.ZwrTZd&id=35861870171

The TEX case on that one gave me the info I needed to deduce that these are from the Taiwanese group buy. It wasn't really publicized, but I knew it was happening. I think they used the Rev B PCB files, so the backlighting bug likely exists in these. I guess the Taiwanese were too anxious to get them to wait for the final production revision. Although, I haven't talked with the Taiwanese organizer, so this just speculation on my part.
No,You got it wrong, it does not matter in Taiwan, this is my own doing【i use google 翻译】
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 10 November 2013, 22:24:49
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01742_zps54a39194.jpg)

one layout that I thought of today, would be Ivan's layout but with the bottom row flipped, so that it would be

1.5x, 1x, 1x, 1.5x, 7x, 1.5x, 1.5x

I only use my right thumb on the right side of the 6.25 spacebar, so this layout would work well for me.
Never use anything to the left of the box in the photo..
(http://i.imgur.com/TwLS46G.jpg)

anyways, just a thought
still can't wait for my pcbs/plates
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Sun, 10 November 2013, 22:37:28
Show Image
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/DSC01742_zps54a39194.jpg)


one layout that I thought of today, would be Ivan's layout but with the bottom row flipped, so that it would be

1.5x, 1x, 1x, 1.5x, 7x, 1.5x, 1.5x

I only use my right thumb on the right side of the 6.25 spacebar, so this layout would work well for me.
Never use anything to the left of the box in the photo..
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/TwLS46G.jpg)


anyways, just a thought
still can't wait for my pcbs/plates

Damn that top one is sexy, wish there was a way of easily getting new WoB doubleshots.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: salmo on Mon, 11 November 2013, 03:53:04
Damn that top one is sexy, wish there was a way of easily getting new WoB doubleshots.

They have them on SP's site (http://www.keycapsdirect.com/marketplace.php) for pretty reasonable.  Plus the TH groupbuy is shipping so keypop may have some cheap ones soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: sdiearly on Mon, 11 November 2013, 04:53:05
GH60 proto for sale on taobao? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978

Wow.  Includes switches and keycaps for $74.  (According to google translate)  Crazy...
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-4533670328.1.ZwrTZd&id=35861870171

The TEX case on that one gave me the info I needed to deduce that these are from the Taiwanese group buy. It wasn't really publicized, but I knew it was happening. I think they used the Rev B PCB files, so the backlighting bug likely exists in these. I guess the Taiwanese were too anxious to get them to wait for the final production revision. Although, I haven't talked with the Taiwanese organizer, so this just speculation on my part.
No,You got it wrong, it does not matter in Taiwan, this is my own doing【i use google 翻译】

Not Taiwanese.
BTW, the link in Tao-Bao is selling switches and PCB. not included caps
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 11 November 2013, 05:02:02
Damn that top one is sexy, wish there was a way of easily getting new WoB doubleshots.

They have them on SP's site (http://www.keycapsdirect.com/marketplace.php) for pretty reasonable.  Plus the TH groupbuy is shipping so keypop may have some cheap ones soon.

Sorry I meant Cherry or GMK doubleshots.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 11 November 2013, 06:23:32
GH60 proto for sale on taobao? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978

Wow.  Includes switches and keycaps for $74.  (According to google translate)  Crazy...
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-4533670328.1.ZwrTZd&id=35861870171

The TEX case on that one gave me the info I needed to deduce that these are from the Taiwanese group buy. It wasn't really publicized, but I knew it was happening. I think they used the Rev B PCB files, so the backlighting bug likely exists in these. I guess the Taiwanese were too anxious to get them to wait for the final production revision. Although, I haven't talked with the Taiwanese organizer, so this just speculation on my part.
No,You got it wrong, it does not matter in Taiwan, this is my own doing【i use google 翻译】

Not Taiwanese.
BTW, the link in Tao-Bao is selling switches and PCB. not included caps


Ah, okay. Thank you for clearing that up. Seems someone must have run a mini GB for them, since there is more than one showing up for sale on taobao.

Bueller: I think Sherryton may be offering WoB GMK sets on Originative soon. He did mention something about 3 new GMK sets coming soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: thoere on Sat, 16 November 2013, 13:30:51
What's the status of the PCB testing looking like so far? Are the PCBs ready yet?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JayG30 on Sat, 16 November 2013, 16:35:21
Sorry for not t reading all 97 pages but what is the status of this? Is the GH60 production ready or still in testing? I haven't missed out on a chance to purchase the finalized design yet have I? Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 16 November 2013, 17:09:29
Sorry for not t reading all 97 pages but what is the status of this? Is the GH60 production ready or still in testing? I haven't missed out on a chance to purchase the finalized design yet have I? Thanks
Order period has ended.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JayG30 on Sat, 16 November 2013, 17:12:26
Sorry for not t reading all 97 pages but what is the status of this? Is the GH60 production ready or still in testing? I haven't missed out on a chance to purchase the finalized design yet have I? Thanks
Order period has ended.

OK what I can't determine is was this the final design and will there be another?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 16 November 2013, 17:54:12
Sorry for not t reading all 97 pages but what is the status of this? Is the GH60 production ready or still in testing? I haven't missed out on a chance to purchase the finalized design yet have I? Thanks
Order period has ended.

OK what I can't determine is was this the final design and will there be another?
The final revision is being tested right now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JayG30 on Sat, 16 November 2013, 18:07:19
Sorry for not t reading all 97 pages but what is the status of this? Is the GH60 production ready or still in testing? I haven't missed out on a chance to purchase the finalized design yet have I? Thanks
Order period has ended.

OK what I can't determine is was this the final design and will there be another?
The final revision is being tested right now.

Ah ok, that's what I thought from reading other threads. I'd expect that once testing of that is done we'll see another group buy for these. If not I'll just get some printed myself
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Kmynis on Mon, 18 November 2013, 11:17:53
My address will change before they get shipped. Whom do I tell my new address?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 18 November 2013, 11:21:52
My address will change before they get shipped. Whom do I tell my new address?

Your order should be shipped by komar007 if you aren't in the US, so you should PM him with your address change.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 18 November 2013, 11:33:25
My address will change before they get shipped. Whom do I tell my new address?

Your order should be shipped by komar007 if you aren't in the US, so you should PM him with your address change.

yup
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Sotongball21 on Tue, 19 November 2013, 07:19:34
Hey, just wondering roughing when will the international orders be shipping out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Tue, 19 November 2013, 09:47:21
Hey, just wondering roughing when will the international orders be shipping out.

This currently does not have a projected date. There will be details added to the OP when they become available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: midnight2903 on Thu, 21 November 2013, 12:10:04
Any need to desolder to change switches?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: thegagne on Thu, 21 November 2013, 12:15:22
My prediction: GH60 will be finalized once we reach page 100 of this thread.

GO GO GO!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 21 November 2013, 12:26:40
My prediction: GH60 will be finalized once we reach page 100 of this thread.

GO GO GO!

(http://i.imgur.com/I8kq0uJ.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 12:27:09
My prediction: GH60 will be finalized once we reach page 100 of this thread.

GO GO GO!

[attachimg=1]

The number of pages depends on how many posts you have set to view per page  ::)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 21 November 2013, 12:58:48
My prediction: GH60 will be finalized once we reach page 100 of this thread.

GO GO GO!

(Attachment Link)

The number of pages depends on how many posts you have set to view per page  ::)

Time to set posts per page to 4!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: midnight2903 on Thu, 21 November 2013, 13:08:06
Why do I keep missing GB...
Goddamnit!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 21 November 2013, 13:10:20
Why do I keep missing GB...
Goddamnit!!!

you missed this by about 6 months
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: midnight2903 on Thu, 21 November 2013, 13:12:24
Why do I keep missing GB...
Goddamnit!!!

you missed this by about 6 months

Yeah I know, been surfing GH for about 5 months, but only created this account recently...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 13:16:25
Why do I keep missing GB...
Goddamnit!!!

you missed this by about 6 months

Yeah I know, been surfing GH for about 5 months, but only created this account recently...

So you have other accounts? :eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: midnight2903 on Thu, 21 November 2013, 13:34:51
Why do I keep missing GB...
Goddamnit!!!

you missed this by about 6 months

Yeah I know, been surfing GH for about 5 months, but only created this account recently...

So you have other accounts? :eek:

Er no, I was surfing around as anon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Infallible on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:02:23
Does anyone want to take my order? gh60 pcb, poker plate, cherry stabs, 63x brown.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:07:56
I will... noticed the poker plate. Would it be possible to get the hhkb plate, and assembly on it, or is it to late?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tgujay on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:12:35
Does anyone want to take my order? gh60 pcb, poker plate, cherry stabs, 63x brown.

Very interested.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:15:06
I will... noticed the poker plate. Would it be possible to get the hhkb plate, and assembly on it, or is it to late?

I don't think they want to do any order changes at this point.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:24:29
I will... noticed the poker plate. Would it be possible to get the hhkb plate, and assembly on it, or is it to late?

I don't think they want to do any order changes at this point.

Perfectly fine. What would I do to go about getting the HHKB plate then? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:25:30
I will... noticed the poker plate. Would it be possible to get the hhkb plate, and assembly on it, or is it to late?

I don't think they want to do any order changes at this point.

Perfectly fine. What would I do to go about getting the HHKB plate then? :)


Buy one off someone that no longer wants it or have one made?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:29:00
Gotchya, didn't realize that those would be available afterwards (thought it was just going to be the PCB).

Yeah, Infallible, I'd be very interested in it. I'm not sure on the specifics of switching the order... I think its a matter of messaging WFD or jdcarpe, but I could be mistaken. If you'd be willing to give me the order just let me know :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:30:00
Gotchya, didn't realize that those would be available afterwards (thought it was just going to be the PCB).

Yeah, Infallible, I'd be very interested in it. I'm not sure on the specifics of switching the order... I think its a matter of messaging WFD or jdcarpe, but I could be mistaken. If you'd be willing to give me the order just let me know :D

Have no idea if they will be available, but you don't have to have a plate to get the HHKB layout either, just so long as you have PCB stabilizers and PCB mount switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:34:14
Even better! Thanks for the info Spamray
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:11:07
Shoot, I'm about half a year late to the party.

I'd love to take over someone's gh60 pcb spot if anyone's looking to get out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Sun, 01 December 2013, 22:39:13
No GH60s for christmas :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Grimey on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:53:22
Just consider it like getting a time quote on software development, never a good idea to put much stock in it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: swill on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:36:30
Just consider it like getting a time quote on software development, never a good idea to put much stock in it.

Hey now...  I am always right on my estimates, they just keep changing the deliverables...  :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: whitevivian on Tue, 03 December 2013, 01:08:19
GH60 proto for sale on taobao? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.75.dOvlTw&id=35830618978

Wow.  Includes switches and keycaps for $74.  (According to google translate)  Crazy...
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-4533670328.1.ZwrTZd&id=35861870171

The TEX case on that one gave me the info I needed to deduce that these are from the Taiwanese group buy. It wasn't really publicized, but I knew it was happening. I think they used the Rev B PCB files, so the backlighting bug likely exists in these. I guess the Taiwanese were too anxious to get them to wait for the final production revision. Although, I haven't talked with the Taiwanese organizer, so this just speculation on my part.
No,You got it wrong, it does not matter in Taiwan, this is my own doing【i use google 翻译】

Not Taiwanese.
BTW, the link in Tao-Bao is selling switches and PCB. not included caps


Ah, okay. Thank you for clearing that up. Seems someone must have run a mini GB for them, since there is more than one showing up for sale on taobao.

Bueller: I think Sherryton may be offering WoB GMK sets on Originative soon. He did mention something about 3 new GMK sets coming soon.


Before shopping it, we need to communicate with the seller.  Or you can not buy it.
and the price is not the whole Price, is just a deposit for the keyboard.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:13:10
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/FYsw82q.jpg)

Is it normal for the plate to be cut like that on the mounting hole?
That is the universal plate Domo. You can run any setup with those (minus ISO, unless you got a Uni ISO).

I know that it is the universal plate.
I was trying to point out that the upper corner of the right shift is cut where the mounting hole is.
it is hanging in mid air. I know that it is thick steel and can take the flex of being used.
it just looks odd.

could someone please comment on the weird cut by the right shift mounting hole?
here is what I am asking about zoomed in...
should the hole be a little smaller so that it is not broken like this?

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:25:21
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/FYsw82q.jpg)

Is it normal for the plate to be cut like that on the mounting hole?
That is the universal plate Domo. You can run any setup with those (minus ISO, unless you got a Uni ISO).

I know that it is the universal plate.
I was trying to point out that the upper corner of the right shift is cut where the mounting hole is.
it is hanging in mid air. I know that it is thick steel and can take the flex of being used.
it just looks odd.

could someone please comment on the weird cut by the right shift mounting hole?
here is what I am asking about zoomed in...
should the hole be a little smaller so that it is not broken like this?

(Attachment Link)
Here's the original plate mockup
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41464.0;attach=19222;image)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:34:46
it just seems like this part would be lacking support.
I guess I will just have to keep waiting and find out when it gets here.


[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 09 December 2013, 22:44:39
The connection was probably below the minimum feature width, and thus had to be removed
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: sprit on Mon, 09 December 2013, 23:04:08

I always Love This Project!!   ;)   

Thanks !!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 09 December 2013, 23:13:20
The connection was probably below the minimum feature width, and thus had to be removed

Thanks Metalliqaz!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 10 December 2013, 01:39:27
I know is a long shot... but is anyone willing to exchange a standard poker plate with anything else? (I took a left over pack and I had two poker plates)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 10 December 2013, 01:52:11
I know is a long shot... but is anyone willing to exchange a standard poker plate with anything else? (I took a left over pack and I had two poker plates)
Matt I will probably have an extra plate because I bought one of those Hammer plates.  However the ones I got from this GB are the universal plates if you are cool with that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 10 December 2013, 02:10:45
I have a Samwisekoy plate which I won't use if you want one of those.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 10 December 2013, 02:11:43
I know is a long shot... but is anyone willing to exchange a standard poker plate with anything else? (I took a left over pack and I had two poker plates)
Matt I will probably have an extra plate because I bought one of those Hammer plates.  However the ones I got from this GB are the universal plates if you are cool with that.

sure I'm cool with that, thanks! better than having 2 boring poker plates :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 10 December 2013, 11:48:25
I know is a long shot... but is anyone willing to exchange a standard poker plate with anything else? (I took a left over pack and I had two poker plates)
Matt I will probably have an extra plate because I bought one of those Hammer plates.  However the ones I got from this GB are the universal plates if you are cool with that.

sure I'm cool with that, thanks! better than having 2 boring poker plates :)
Shoot me a PM once these things get shipped, i'll probably forget :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 10 December 2013, 12:16:56
I know is a long shot... but is anyone willing to exchange a standard poker plate with anything else? (I took a left over pack and I had two poker plates)
Matt I will probably have an extra plate because I bought one of those Hammer plates.  However the ones I got from this GB are the universal plates if you are cool with that.

sure I'm cool with that, thanks! better than having 2 boring poker plates :)
Shoot me a PM once these things get shipped, i'll probably forget :P

okay see you in 2016 :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 10 December 2013, 12:21:50
Don't joke about those kind of things!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mreverything on Tue, 10 December 2013, 15:50:28
Shoot, I'm about half a year late to the party.

I'd love to take over someone's gh60 pcb spot if anyone's looking to get out.

I'd be excited to buy a gh60 from someone who ordered too many (if that's even possible).

I wish I'd joined geekhack a year ago. Such a cool project and group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 December 2013, 15:53:46
Shoot, I'm about half a year late to the party.

I'd love to take over someone's gh60 pcb spot if anyone's looking to get out.

I'd be excited to buy a gh60 from someone who ordered too many (if that's even possible).

I wish I'd joined geekhack a year ago. Such a cool project and group buy.

There will be plenty to be unloaded when these all come in...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mreverything on Tue, 10 December 2013, 16:05:36
There will be plenty to be unloaded when these all come in...

Comforting news. Thank you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 12 December 2013, 20:20:56
I got 3 60% cases and 3 PCBs just waiting.

Give me mah GH60 teacha biatch!

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/dc1d1211d2b9865ddf6ddc1b819c65e6/tumblr_mjqqy47AfT1s229k8o2_500.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/fsAt4LP.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 12 December 2013, 22:08:09
I got 3 60% cases and 3 PCBs just waiting.

Give me mah GH60 teacha biatch!

Show Image
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/dc1d1211d2b9865ddf6ddc1b819c65e6/tumblr_mjqqy47AfT1s229k8o2_500.gif)


HAHAH
there isn't a better gif for this thread
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: sth on Thu, 12 December 2013, 22:17:54
I got 3 60% cases and 3 PCBs just waiting.

Give me mah GH60 teacha biatch!

Show Image
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/dc1d1211d2b9865ddf6ddc1b819c65e6/tumblr_mjqqy47AfT1s229k8o2_500.gif)


HAHAH
there isn't a better gif for this thread

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m13idwpolJ1qcvkpto1_250.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: reziak on Thu, 12 December 2013, 22:48:51
Shoot, I'm about half a year late to the party.

I'd love to take over someone's gh60 pcb spot if anyone's looking to get out.

I'd be excited to buy a gh60 from someone who ordered too many (if that's even possible).

I wish I'd joined geekhack a year ago. Such a cool project and group buy.

There will be plenty to be unloaded when these all come in...

Good news! As a more recent recruit, I was bummed I missed out on this as well...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 13 December 2013, 13:28:05
whats the word these days on this group buy? when can i realistically expect my order? Jan-Feb?

i want to bust out the hakko again. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 13 December 2013, 13:37:11
I mean i still got mad respect for the GH60 GB team but at this rate how is it even possible that it could arrive in Jan-Feb. Plates, Stabilizers, Stitches, and Custom Stabilizer wires have to be acquired/made as well on top of rev3 production and then the packaging and shipment of hundreds of orders. March? April? I'm thinking the worst honestly, prove me wrong guys!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 December 2013, 13:50:12
I mean i still got mad respect for the GH60 GB team but at this rate how is it even possible that it could arrive in Jan-Feb. Plates, Stabilizers, Stitches, and Custom Stabilizer wires have to be acquired/made as well on top of rev3 production and then the packaging and shipment of hundreds of orders. March? April? I'm thinking the worst honestly, prove me wrong guys!

On top of that is WFD still involved? He seems to be busy with real life lately.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mkaito on Fri, 13 December 2013, 13:55:36
I mean i still got mad respect for the GH60 GB team but at this rate how is it even possible that it could arrive in Jan-Feb. Plates, Stabilizers, Stitches, and Custom Stabilizer wires have to be acquired/made as well on top of rev3 production and then the packaging and shipment of hundreds of orders. March? April? I'm thinking the worst honestly, prove me wrong guys!

On top of that is WFD still involved? He seems to be busy with real life lately.

I'm being conservative and trying not to get my hopes up too much for any time before summer. I'm fine with waiting. It's well worth it. And I still need to figure out what to do about a case anyway, since I'm broke for now and the foreseeable future, and all the nice cases are bloody expensive...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 December 2013, 13:56:31
From my end, I can tell you that the switches were held up due to Cherry's production schedule. There is absolutely nothing we can do about that. I have about half the switches we ordered. The remaining switches should be coming soon.

komar is working on the final PCB revision, but he is a busy guy, with a life and all that comes with it. It will get done.

WFD is still involved, but his time is also limited. He has some stabilizers, but needs to order the remaining. He is also handling the plate orders, but that has not been a huge rush, until we can get the PCBs manufactured.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: sth on Sat, 14 December 2013, 12:17:51
are there any plans to send out PCBs/plates to people without switch/stab orders before everything comes in?


i don't want to wait for our lives to be over
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 14 December 2013, 12:22:15
are there any plans to send out PCBs/plates to people without switch/stab orders before everything comes in?


i don't want to wait for our lives to be over

I don't foresee the PCBs and plates being ready before switches and stabs, but I can't say for sure. For me, I will ship any orders I am responsible for shipping as soon as those orders are complete.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: precarious on Sun, 15 December 2013, 00:34:18
i need to update my address for the gh60 order i placed approximately 6.7 years ago, one of you kind chaps with 6000 posts tell me how to do this
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 15 December 2013, 00:39:09

i need to update my address for the gh60 order i placed approximately 6.7 years ago, one of you kind chaps with 6000 posts tell me how to do this

You're alive!

 Don't have enough post counts to help you though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Sun, 15 December 2013, 09:01:40
Just realized we're on the last page before orders get sent out! Woo!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 15 December 2013, 09:12:41
i need to update my address for the gh60 order i placed approximately 6.7 years ago, one of you kind chaps with 6000 posts tell me how to do this

PM jdcarpe!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 15 December 2013, 13:13:17
My prediction: GH60 will be finalized once we reach page 100 of this thread.

GO GO GO!

(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Deal-With-It-Chuck-Norris-Gif-In-Delta-Force.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 15 December 2013, 13:28:31
i need to update my address for the gh60 order i placed approximately 6.7 years ago, one of you kind chaps with 6000 posts tell me how to do this

You ordered before the GB existed?

Amazing! ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: swill on Sun, 15 December 2013, 15:22:17

i need to update my address for the gh60 order i placed approximately 6.7 years ago, one of you kind chaps with 6000 posts tell me how to do this

You ordered before the GB existed?

Amazing! ;)

Haha. That's possible. :). I have done that with the 40% already. :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Jmneuv on Mon, 16 December 2013, 01:04:20
Whom do i send a new email/pp for the order, please?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Mon, 16 December 2013, 01:35:05
Whom do i send a new email/pp for the order, please?

no more orders.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: duq on Mon, 16 December 2013, 02:14:45

Whom do i send a new email/pp for the order, please?

Be active in the classifieds because a few people are selling their orders.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: simkev on Mon, 16 December 2013, 03:00:50
Anyone knowing where you could get stabwire for 7u spacebar, both cherry platemounted and costar?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Jmneuv on Mon, 16 December 2013, 03:45:37
Nah i ordered and paid months ago, my PP address has changed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 16 December 2013, 04:00:42
Anyone knowing where you could get stabwire for 7u spacebar, both cherry platemounted and costar?

pm sent
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: raphdu57 on Mon, 16 December 2013, 06:45:40
Whom do i send a new email/pp for the order, please?
You should PM jdcarpe or komar007 depending on your location.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JBert on Tue, 17 December 2013, 03:34:02
My prediction: GH60 will be finalized once we reach page 100 of this thread.

GO GO GO!
...

How do you mean, we're only at 60?!?

[attachimg=2]

 :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tgujay on Tue, 17 December 2013, 06:41:52
My prediction: GH60 will be finalized once we reach page 100 of this thread.

GO GO GO!
...

How do you mean, we're only at 60?!?

(Attachment Link)

 :D

Amount of pages depends on how many posts you have per page in your settings.  thegagne is saying that it will take another 40 pages of comments(on the stock settings) until the GH60 is finally finished.  He is being sarcastic.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 18 December 2013, 14:37:13
I am still wondering what the results of the poll for the pcb color was?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 December 2013, 14:37:47
I am still wondering what the results of the poll for the pcb color was?

Um, white! Yes, that must be the winner. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 18 December 2013, 18:45:49
I am still wondering what the results of the poll for the pcb color was?

Um, white! Yes, that must be the winner. :)

Is wfd the only one that can see the results?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tricheboars on Wed, 18 December 2013, 19:41:27
another revision eh? i guess that is cool if we can get some full led backlighting. may i ask what was wrong with rev. b?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Thu, 19 December 2013, 15:07:34
Okay, the accidental short error is fixed and from my point of view everything is okay now. I sill want to make absolutely sure the backlight module fill fit and work with the current electrical design of GH60. Except for that I'd like to wait until agodinhost gets his prototype to work on the bluetooth module. Then I'll be totally sure we can start production.

Looks like the end of the tunnel! 😃😃
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tlt on Fri, 20 December 2013, 00:56:53
Production sounds good :-) l'm sure this PCB is going to be as classic
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 20 December 2013, 06:04:14
Production sounds good :-) l'm sure this PCB is going to be as classic

This has been in "production" for months now. Production means in this case that the prototypes are getting produced.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: simkev on Fri, 20 December 2013, 08:19:18
Been away from GH for a couple of months and haven't followed all the revisions of the PCB.
Will a 7Bit layout be possible as it is on the Phantom boards?
Like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/WWYypL5.jpg)

Imaging taking out a board like that in class with blank caps and soft touching like a boss with some nice clicky blues.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Acetrak on Fri, 20 December 2013, 08:40:53
No I don't think the PCB layout is going through any changes. They are doing QA and working on additional features like backlight. You can go by the OP to see what layouts are available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 20 December 2013, 08:42:22
The bottom row is not possible.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nebo on Fri, 20 December 2013, 12:36:23
I never heard back from WFD about this, if I wanted to sell my order who would I go about giving the new information to?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: swill on Fri, 20 December 2013, 12:51:24
I never heard back from WFD about this, if I wanted to sell my order who would I go about giving the new information to?

I think you have to receive it and then ship it to the new owner yourself.  That is how the two people are doing it for the two which I have purchased from other people in this GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 20 December 2013, 12:52:34
I never heard back from WFD about this, if I wanted to sell my order who would I go about giving the new information to?

maybe PM jdcarpe or TJ.....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 December 2013, 14:09:51
I never heard back from WFD about this, if I wanted to sell my order who would I go about giving the new information to?

Myself, tjcaustin, WFD, or komar007. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mooswa on Fri, 20 December 2013, 14:50:08
I never heard back from WFD about this, if I wanted to sell my order who would I go about giving the new information to?

Myself, tjcaustin, WFD, or komar007. :)

And I am interested to take over nebo's order.  Will I be able to change his order?  I'd rather have a regular ANSI plate, and a DIY kit (instead of his pure-shift plate + assembled PCB).

Edit: I am also cool with nebo's order as is.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 December 2013, 14:56:38
NO ORDER CHANGES



Also, I think we may be at the point where, if you sell your order, you just have to ship it yourself. Changing shipping addresses for 206 people ain't happening, folks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nebo on Fri, 20 December 2013, 16:37:42
NO ORDER CHANGES



Also, I think we may be at the point where, if you sell your order, you just have to ship it yourself. Changing shipping addresses for 206 people ain't happening, folks.

What if I've already moved since this was placed and would have to change address anyways. :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 December 2013, 16:43:16
What will probably happen is that, just before we are about to ship the orders, we will open a new form for everyone to confirm their shipping info.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Fri, 20 December 2013, 23:40:34
We're in page one hundred guys!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 20 December 2013, 23:43:39
We're in page one hundred guys!

clearly you need to adjust your page display settings....we are on page 60...

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 12:44:33
We're in page one hundred guys!

clearly you need to adjust your page display settings....we are on page 60...



I think you're the one that needs adjustment :P

My prediction: GH60 will be finalized once we reach page 100 of this thread.

GO GO GO!

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jabar on Sat, 21 December 2013, 14:05:08
what's the status on this? I don't see pg 1 updates
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gnubag on Sat, 21 December 2013, 17:00:13
what's the status on this? I don't see pg 1 updates

because there are none...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 21 December 2013, 17:49:34
what's the status on this? I don't see pg 1 updates

Rev B. testing happens here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50685.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Aleksander on Wed, 25 December 2013, 20:41:12
Is it possible to add another presoldered PCB to my order, or am I way to late?
and anybody have a CAD of ANSI or ISO switch-plate?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Thu, 26 December 2013, 03:46:31
Is it possible to add another presoldered PCB to my order, or am I way to late?
and anybody have a CAD of ANSI or ISO switch-plate?

NO ORDER CHANGES



Also, I think we may be at the point where, if you sell your order, you just have to ship it yourself. Changing shipping addresses for 206 people ain't happening, folks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 26 December 2013, 09:05:32
Any chance of an official update on an eta (even roughly) on this? One month, six months?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 26 December 2013, 09:52:34
Any chance of an official update on an eta (even roughly) on this? One month, six months?

It's finished but untested. I'll take a final look during Christmas and send the files for production after New Year.

(from [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.1830))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 27 December 2013, 06:26:00
Thanks but that doesn't really answer the question of when they'll be ready to send out - only that they'll be ordered in 2014 at some point...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Fri, 27 December 2013, 08:53:16
Thanks but that doesn't really answer the question of when they'll be ready to send out - only that they'll be ordered in 2014 at some point...

They don't know when they will be ready with production AFAIK, it's not just "when I give in my order they'll make it within the next 2 weeks" just be patient, we're nearing the end sooner or later and it looks like sooner
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 December 2013, 09:37:11
Thanks but that doesn't really answer the question of when they'll be ready to send out - only that they'll be ordered in 2014 at some point...

They will be ready to send out once we have everything in hand. I don't know what else you want us to say. I can't really give you a firm estimate at this point, as the PCBs haven't been produced yet, plates haven't been cut yet, and all these parts have to be shipped around the world from manufacturers to us organizers, then to the organizer responsible for shipping your particular order. Sorry.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 27 December 2013, 12:23:14
Thanks but that doesn't really answer the question of when they'll be ready to send out - only that they'll be ordered in 2014 at some point...

They don't know when they will be ready with production AFAIK, it's not just "when I give in my order they'll make it within the next 2 weeks" just be patient, we're nearing the end sooner or later and it looks like sooner

I'm not being impatient - unless asking for some idea of a rough time frame after waiting for 6 months is being impatient...

Thanks but that doesn't really answer the question of when they'll be ready to send out - only that they'll be ordered in 2014 at some point...

They will be ready to send out once we have everything in hand. I don't know what else you want us to say. I can't really give you a firm estimate at this point, as the PCBs haven't been produced yet, plates haven't been cut yet, and all these parts have to be shipped around the world from manufacturers to us organizers, then to the organizer responsible for shipping your particular order. Sorry.

Thanks for that - I understand that you can't send stuff out until you have it all but was just curious as to whether you'd been given some eta from your suppliers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 27 December 2013, 12:29:45
Thanks but that doesn't really answer the question of when they'll be ready to send out - only that they'll be ordered in 2014 at some point...

They don't know when they will be ready with production AFAIK, it's not just "when I give in my order they'll make it within the next 2 weeks" just be patient, we're nearing the end sooner or later and it looks like sooner

I'm not being impatient - unless asking for some idea of a rough time frame after waiting for 6 months is being impatient...

Thanks but that doesn't really answer the question of when they'll be ready to send out - only that they'll be ordered in 2014 at some point...

They will be ready to send out once we have everything in hand. I don't know what else you want us to say. I can't really give you a firm estimate at this point, as the PCBs haven't been produced yet, plates haven't been cut yet, and all these parts have to be shipped around the world from manufacturers to us organizers, then to the organizer responsible for shipping your particular order. Sorry.

Thanks for that - I understand that you can't send stuff out until you have it all but was just curious as to whether you'd been given some eta from your suppliers.

The thing is, I don't think they even ordered anything as of yet. That's the reason for no ETA.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 27 December 2013, 12:37:40
That would certainly explain no eta - thanks :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: 7bit on Thu, 09 January 2014, 13:18:26
Any update on the switches?

People keep asking me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 09 January 2014, 13:27:06
Any update on the switches?

People keep asking me.


Where did you send them :eek: :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 09 January 2014, 13:28:40
Any update on the switches?

People keep asking me.


Yes, I received them several days ago. We need to exchange our switches! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 11 January 2014, 10:41:26
This is such a beautiful PCB.
(http://i.imgur.com/PJkOlx0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/59HyH8n.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/C5yyfq1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/KiYFKVX.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BliTzKiN on Sun, 12 January 2014, 01:08:48
This is such a beautiful PCB.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/PJkOlx0.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/59HyH8n.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/C5yyfq1.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KiYFKVX.jpg)


Damn thats pretty
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 12 January 2014, 13:45:48
Damn I need a GH60 to go with this GH Pad!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:42:52
This is such a beautiful PCB.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/PJkOlx0.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/59HyH8n.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/C5yyfq1.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KiYFKVX.jpg)


Is that the final revision? 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:43:44
Is that the final revision?

Rev. B, so no.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:45:50
This is such a beautiful PCB.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/PJkOlx0.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/59HyH8n.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/C5yyfq1.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KiYFKVX.jpg)


Is that the final revision? 

No, that is Rev. B
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:45:59
Ah right...  Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Infallible on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:50:38
Mod Edit: content removed.  Please do not sell your items outside of the Classifieds, trying to bypass the 60-post minimum rule.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 15 January 2014, 09:01:21
Can't do that infallible. You can only sell in the Classifieds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: geogga on Wed, 15 January 2014, 22:30:37
Hi guys. So for those who discovered geekhack a bit too late and missed this like me , is there a way to purchase the GH60 PCB? Looking at building my own keyboard but I only know half of the whole process, tools and required parts. Too lazy to read 100 pages :p
Are there other 60% PCBs like this?
Sorry for being a noob, still learning about keyboards.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 15 January 2014, 22:32:55
Hi guys. So for those who discovered geekhack a bit too late and missed this like me , is there a way to purchase the GH60 PCB? Looking at building my own keyboard but I only know half of the whole process, tools and required parts. Too lazy to read 100 pages :p
Are there other 60% PCBs like this?
Sorry for being a noob, still learning about keyboards.

It's open source, so you can have your own made.  There are also some in various stages of development floating around Taobao.  Then there are sure to be some in the Classifieds once the GB actually ships.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tricheboars on Wed, 15 January 2014, 23:36:55
so whatever was decided regarding the color of the pcbs? white? purple?

i am glad i ordered 2 with all the fixings. got some nice cases for them as well. but i am going to procure an ergo dox soon so who knows if i will keep using 60%s. its a crazy keyboard world out there folks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gugelhupf on Thu, 16 January 2014, 07:50:29
Are i am still able to order a GH60?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 16 January 2014, 07:50:57
Are i am still able to order a GH60?

No.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 16 January 2014, 07:53:34

Are i am still able to order a GH60?

No.

But they will be widely available once they're released. Both on classifieds and through mechanicalkeyboards.com.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gugelhupf on Thu, 16 January 2014, 08:35:20
How long will i have to wait to geht one oft these. Sorry but i am New in this segment and i only found this to geht a ANSI layout with ISO in FN. Hope you geht what i Jean.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 16 January 2014, 08:38:09
How long will i have to wait to geht one oft these. Sorry but i am New in this segment and i only found this to geht a ANSI layout with ISO in FN. Hope you geht what i Jean.

Couple of months at the very least I'd say. None of the PCB's or plates for the GB haven't been done yet and the final pcb files aren't being released till everyone from the GB has theirs in hand.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: gugelhupf on Thu, 16 January 2014, 08:55:09
Alright thanks a lot. Then i will just wait. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: geogga on Thu, 16 January 2014, 09:22:11

Are i am still able to order a GH60?

No.

But they will be widely available once they're released. Both on classifieds and through mechanicalkeyboards.com.
Mechanical keyboards? That's awesome! I hope It is available toward summer/end of school year so I can experience building my own keyboard.
Will this be mass produced? Or will it be like waves of production every couple months or so?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 16 January 2014, 09:35:58

Are i am still able to order a GH60?

No.

But they will be widely available once they're released. Both on classifieds and through mechanicalkeyboards.com.
Mechanical keyboards? That's awesome! I hope It is available toward summer/end of school year so I can experience building my own keyboard.
Will this be mass produced? Or will it be like waves of production every couple months or so?

Once the backers of this group buy get their PCB's, all of the files will be open-sourced. Anyone will be able to print them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: geogga on Thu, 16 January 2014, 09:57:09
Hm... I see...that's great, so other than cases (a alu from tex would suit me well or one from spirit GB), PCB (this), and plate(off imsto) and switches and keycaps I think I could build this in the near future, maybe during presidents week or spring break. By then I will most likely know how to build one and do different mods to it.
Thanks riot!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 16 January 2014, 10:01:24
Hm... I see...that's great, so other than cases (a alu from tex would suit me well or one from spirit GB), PCB (this), and plate(off imsto) and switches and keycaps I think I could build this in the near future, maybe during presidents week or spring break. By then I will most likely know how to build one and do different mods to it.
Thanks riot!

don't forget the stabilizers, and you don't have to have a plate you can go PCB mount also.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: geogga on Thu, 16 January 2014, 13:11:20
Hm... I see...that's great, so other than cases (a alu from tex would suit me well or one from spirit GB), PCB (this), and plate(off imsto) and switches and keycaps I think I could build this in the near future, maybe during presidents week or spring break. By then I will most likely know how to build one and do different mods to it.
Thanks riot!

don't forget the stabilizers, and you don't have to have a plate you can go PCB mount also.

Oh I see, you don't necessarily need a plate.

I forgot stabs, thanks for the reminder. The ones found on IMSTO's website are the normal stabs, where do I find spacebar stabs? I have yet to watch a KMAC assembly video,barter that I think questions will be answered.
Also, with a fully assembled keyboard, is it the PCB or plate that shows the background color behind the keycaps?
On spirits GB, there are options for different color plates (acrylic and alu) and PCBs, I'd like to know why there are options and which one will show if you look at the keyboard from a birds eye view?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tricheboars on Thu, 16 January 2014, 13:19:33
Hey guys I got ignored. What is the color of the final version of the PCB?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 16 January 2014, 13:21:56
Hey guys I got ignored. What is the color of the final version of the PCB?

white IIRC
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 16 January 2014, 15:01:34
Hey guys I got ignored. What is the color of the final version of the PCB?

white IIRC
I hope you're WRONG! :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 16 January 2014, 15:06:40
Hey guys I got ignored. What is the color of the final version of the PCB?

white IIRC
I hope you're WRONG! :/

I am still wondering what the results of the poll for the pcb color was?

Um, white! Yes, that must be the winner. :)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 16 January 2014, 15:09:40
Ugh. Guess I'll get some Taobao ones and sell the white ones.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: swill on Thu, 16 January 2014, 15:18:23
Ugh. Guess I'll get some Taobao ones and sell the white ones.

Your probably going to use a plate and never see that color again once you setup your board.  :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 16 January 2014, 15:26:23
Ugh. Guess I'll get some Taobao ones and sell the white ones.

Your probably going to use a plate and never see that color again once you setup your board.  :P
But I'll know it's there  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: swill on Thu, 16 January 2014, 15:41:16
Ugh. Guess I'll get some Taobao ones and sell the white ones.

Your probably going to use a plate and never see that color again once you setup your board.  :P
But I'll know it's there  :))

Haha...  First world problems...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 16 January 2014, 21:57:42
So will we see these before we hit the one year mark in this thread? i mean ill say please no rush but i'm not going to lie, i am wanting these more each month goes by past the original "ETA for all parts will be around September " mark. I have nothing but respect for the organizers--even WFD who has seemed to disappear completely i am guessing because of (grad?) school and work; but i think i'm still allowed to say im disappointed without insulting anyone.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 16 January 2014, 22:03:17
So will we see these before we hit the one year mark in this thread? i mean ill say please no rush but i'm not going to lie, i am wanting these more each month goes by past the original "ETA for all parts will be around September " mark. I have nothing but respect for the organizers--even WFD who has seemed to disappear completely i am guessing because of (grad?) school and work; but i think i'm still allowed to say im disappointed without insulting anyone.



Same thoughts here. Especially with PCBs showing up on other sites
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: geogga on Thu, 16 January 2014, 22:09:19
So will we see these before we hit the one year mark in this thread? i mean ill say please no rush but i'm not going to lie, i am wanting these more each month goes by past the original "ETA for all parts will be around September " mark. I have nothing but respect for the organizers--even WFD who has seemed to disappear completely i am guessing because of (grad?) school and work; but i think i'm still allowed to say im disappointed without insulting anyone.



Same thoughts here. Especially with PCBs showing up on other sites

Hi beast, do you know which websites? I feel that PCBs are the hardest to find out of all the parts of a keyboard so I kinda wanna stock up for 2-3 keyboards
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 16 January 2014, 22:12:11
So will we see these before we hit the one year mark in this thread? i mean ill say please no rush but i'm not going to lie, i am wanting these more each month goes by past the original "ETA for all parts will be around September " mark. I have nothing but respect for the organizers--even WFD who has seemed to disappear completely i am guessing because of (grad?) school and work; but i think i'm still allowed to say im disappointed without insulting anyone.



Same thoughts here. Especially with PCBs showing up on other sites

Hi beast, do you know which websites? I feel that PCBs are the hardest to find out of all the parts of a keyboard so I kinda wanna stock up for 2-3 keyboards
Taobao, you will need a proxy though.

Purple
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.YmLqNS&id=36383139120

White
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.YmLqNS&id=20184262735
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 16 January 2014, 22:12:49
So will we see these before we hit the one year mark in this thread? i mean ill say please no rush but i'm not going to lie, i am wanting these more each month goes by past the original "ETA for all parts will be around September " mark. I have nothing but respect for the organizers--even WFD who has seemed to disappear completely i am guessing because of (grad?) school and work; but i think i'm still allowed to say im disappointed without insulting anyone.

that's a pretty good summary for me as well. I've been dying for the GH60's since last February once someone told me about it in IRC back then. No frustration with the organizers, they have done fabulous jobs with organization and keeping it all straight forward, it's just time hasn't been on our side. I literally bought my Poker from JD as a temporary board to last me until September 2013..and well... :))

it's all ok and fine with me, once they drop, everything should be near perfection and we will be saying it was well worth the wait. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 16 January 2014, 22:16:06
So, as it stands what is going on in this group buy? Is there going to be a final revision and then it's pretty much over and everything ships?

What are the known bugs of revision b, since those are the revisions that are showing up everywhere.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 16 January 2014, 22:16:15
So will we see these before we hit the one year mark in this thread? i mean ill say please no rush but i'm not going to lie, i am wanting these more each month goes by past the original "ETA for all parts will be around September " mark. I have nothing but respect for the organizers--even WFD who has seemed to disappear completely i am guessing because of (grad?) school and work; but i think i'm still allowed to say im disappointed without insulting anyone.

that's a pretty good summary for me as well. I've been dying for the GH60's since last February once someone told me about it in IRC back then. No frustration with the organizers, they have done fabulous jobs with organization and keeping it all straight forward, it's just time hasn't been on our side. I literally bought my Poker from JD as a temporary board to last me until September 2013..and well... :))

it's all ok and fine with me, once they drop, everything should be near perfection and we will be saying it was well worth the wait. :)

Having a proto PCB, I can personally say that they are really really well designed!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 16 January 2014, 22:28:41
Can't believe this is still going.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 16 January 2014, 22:42:59
Having a proto PCB, I can personally say that they are really really well designed!

I'd die for a proto, need me some 1.5 mods on 60%

Can't believe this is still going.

alive and breathing o.O
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: geogga on Thu, 16 January 2014, 22:46:02
So will we see these before we hit the one year mark in this thread? i mean ill say please no rush but i'm not going to lie, i am wanting these more each month goes by past the original "ETA for all parts will be around September " mark. I have nothing but respect for the organizers--even WFD who has seemed to disappear completely i am guessing because of (grad?) school and work; but i think i'm still allowed to say im disappointed without insulting anyone.



Same thoughts here. Especially with PCBs showing up on other sites

Hi beast, do you know which websites? I feel that PCBs are the hardest to find out of all the parts of a keyboard so I kinda wanna stock up for 2-3 keyboards
Taobao, you will need a proxy though.

Purple
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.YmLqNS&id=36383139120

White
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.YmLqNS&id=20184262735

Hey it's you! Thanks for those links. PCB color doesn't matter right? Just the plate is visible if I remember correctly, unless you have a acrylic case.
Aren't proxys like those places where ship you the product you bought? Maybe I could
Qtan. I believe he is my only source for getting taobao ish.

So what's the consensus on rev. b boards? Could I just get it now or will the final production board have changes that will make me want to wait?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 17 January 2014, 00:08:23
Not every GH60 is going to use a plate, i know one of mine is going plate-less (just 1 of them).  So more or less the PCB color can matter for some because that will show; For example i have a RACE which doesn't have a plate and is white back lit, you can clearly see the red PCB, its very obvious. Also you have people who have clear cases or just like to take keyboard porn and want a color they like (see PCB picture thread)

i think white is fine, white or black or silver is cool with me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 17 January 2014, 12:33:41
So will we see these before we hit the one year mark in this thread? i mean ill say please no rush but i'm not going to lie, i am wanting these more each month goes by past the original "ETA for all parts will be around September " mark. I have nothing but respect for the organizers--even WFD who has seemed to disappear completely i am guessing because of (grad?) school and work; but i think i'm still allowed to say im disappointed without insulting anyone.



Same thoughts here. Especially with PCBs showing up on other sites

Hi beast, do you know which websites? I feel that PCBs are the hardest to find out of all the parts of a keyboard so I kinda wanna stock up for 2-3 keyboards
Taobao, you will need a proxy though.

Purple
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.YmLqNS&id=36383139120

White
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.YmLqNS&id=20184262735

I am not capable of reading Chinese and with google translate I am still missing some of the details on this page.
do these come with all the smd components pre soldered?
The pics of the purple one has everything on it already...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: geogga on Fri, 17 January 2014, 21:51:52
So will we see these before we hit the one year mark in this thread? i mean ill say please no rush but i'm not going to lie, i am wanting these more each month goes by past the original "ETA for all parts will be around September " mark. I have nothing but respect for the organizers--even WFD who has seemed to disappear completely i am guessing because of (grad?) school and work; but i think i'm still allowed to say im disappointed without insulting anyone.



Same thoughts here. Especially with PCBs showing up on other sites

Hi beast, do you know which websites? I feel that PCBs are the hardest to find out of all the parts of a keyboard so I kinda wanna stock up for 2-3 keyboards
Taobao, you will need a proxy though.

Purple
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.YmLqNS&id=36383139120

White
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.YmLqNS&id=20184262735

I am not capable of reading Chinese and with google translate I am still missing some of the details on this page.
do these come with all the smd components pre soldered?
The pics of the purple one has everything on it already...
quote from OP
"Assembly
 The PCBs will come with all SMD preassembled, including diodes. Switches and LEDs will require your own soldering. If you’re brave and want to do the SMD soldering yourself, PCB and a bag of SMT components will be cheaper. There will be options for assembly service if you cannot build it yourself.
 
 If you’re assembling it yourself, the minimum equipment you’ll need is a Weller WLC-100 soldering station/iron and Rosin-core solder (smaller than 0.04" diameter). Although it is doable with cheap $15 irons, that’s not recommended. In addition to the PCB, you will need the following to complete the build:
Switches
Stabilizers
Case
Keycaps
Plate (optional)
mini-B USB cable."

I hope those two Taobao links are what described above. I'll talk to qtan and see if he can get me a white PCB. Translating wise I don't think he or any chinese fellow would want to translate that whole thing lol

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dsan on Sat, 18 January 2014, 14:06:49
This is such a beautiful PCB.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/PJkOlx0.jpg)


Wow,that's hot :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 27 January 2014, 15:22:46
so what is the latest news if there is any
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 30 January 2014, 06:24:28
so is the pcb testing final now?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 30 January 2014, 09:32:45
yes;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 30 January 2014, 09:34:53
yes;)

Have the plates and PCB's been ordered yet?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 30 January 2014, 09:36:27
As for PCB, I'll order them just after the Chinese New Year holidays.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: yasuo on Thu, 30 January 2014, 10:17:49
waiting GH60 Part3 i hope sir.komar007 make symmetry :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: wrwhoami on Thu, 30 January 2014, 10:58:12
PRODUCTION IS GOOD
I WAIT A LONG TIME! :'(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 30 January 2014, 11:24:02
yes;)

As for PCB, I'll order them just after the Chinese New Year holidays.

THANK YOU!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Muffet on Thu, 30 January 2014, 12:15:46
Does this mean I can get some actual final measurements so I can finally design a case for it? Please?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 30 January 2014, 12:23:24
Does this mean I can get some actual final measurements so I can finally design a case for it? Please?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg954124#msg954124

These should be final, so they should hold for rev c. and if they don't then i expect the changes will be very small.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 30 January 2014, 15:09:02
PRODUCTION IS GOOD
I WAIT A LONG TIME! :'(

All of us have been :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tricheboars on Thu, 30 January 2014, 16:55:55
how long does the chinese new year holiday last? until Feb 15th?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 30 January 2014, 17:25:23
how long does the chinese new year holiday last? until Feb 15th?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_New_Year#Public_holiday

it depends on where exactly. but probably feb 6th.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Muffet on Thu, 30 January 2014, 19:31:13
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.msg954124#msg954124

These should be final, so they should hold for rev c. and if they don't then i expect the changes will be very small.

Sweet Thank you!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 30 January 2014, 19:32:51
Any update on this?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 30 January 2014, 19:36:09
Any update on this?

God damnit, The_Beast. Do a google search for once.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 30 January 2014, 19:39:17

Any update on this?

Update: I'm keeping your boards.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Thechemist on Thu, 30 January 2014, 19:43:21

Any update on this?

Update: I'm keeping your boards FOREVER .

ftfy
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 30 January 2014, 19:47:58
Any update on this?

God damnit, The_Beast. Do a google search for once.

Can I get an update on the ETA of that google search?




Any update on this?

Update: I'm keeping your boards.

What are boards?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Thechemist on Thu, 30 January 2014, 19:53:40
Any update on this?

God damnit, The_Beast. Do a google search for once.

Can I get an update on the ETA of that google search?




Any update on this?

Update: I'm keeping your boards.

What are boards?

PCB = Printed Circuit Board  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 30 January 2014, 20:18:33
No more Pacifist posts, B. We all got it last night when Halverson spammed the forum. Pacifist pisses me off enough with his annoying bull****, but the mock posts are staring to piss me off just as much.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 30 January 2014, 20:20:17
No more Pacifist posts, B. We all got it last night when Halverson spammed the forum. Pacifist pisses me off enough with his annoying bull****, but the mock posts are staring to piss me off just as much.

Feel exactly the same way. Adding to the problem is not the most elegant of solutions.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 30 January 2014, 20:51:40
No more Pacifist posts, B. We all got it last night when Halverson spammed the forum. Pacifist pisses me off enough with his annoying bull****, but the mock posts are staring to piss me off just as much.

Unlike some people I know when to stop

sorry about that :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Acanthophis on Fri, 31 January 2014, 19:47:22
I know orders are locked, but from a logistic standpoint it doesn't hurt to add additional PCBs to an order, right?
Right? :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 31 January 2014, 19:53:29
I know orders are locked, but from a logistic standpoint it doesn't hurt to add additional PCBs to an order, right?
Right? :/

There will be plenty of ways to get these once production finishes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 01 February 2014, 02:41:24
GB Nightmare :D

"I want to change address, and split the order in two and send one pcb to France and one to Hong Kong, I also want a refund and a replacement. And this GB is too slow."
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tbc on Mon, 03 February 2014, 01:43:30
I know orders are locked, but from a logistic standpoint it doesn't hurt to add additional PCBs to an order, right?
Right? :/

There will be plenty of ways to get these once production finishes.

can someone explain to me how this works?

are you saying that mechanicalkeyboards.com (or someone else) will be given access to all the relevant files and then will be able to source their own manufacturers once everyone in this groupbuy gets their assembled product?

if so, isn't the whole groupbuy stalled on the assembly process with WFD?

theoretically, if he NEVER finishes assembly, that means that no vendor will ever be able to release these to the general public?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 03 February 2014, 03:11:18
The GB isn't stalled on WFD at all. The PCB has just been in development. If you look like a dozen posts back, it's possibly about to go into production. At that point all the plates, etc, will be ordered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 03 February 2014, 03:23:28
How hard is it to change from ISO to ANSI (poker plate) on my own? I took over an order and it had an ISO plate but now I noticed how much of an annoyance getting ISO keycaps is as most people use ANSI
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 03 February 2014, 05:06:08
How hard is it to change from ISO to ANSI (poker plate) on my own? I took over an order and it had an ISO plate but now I noticed how much of an annoyance getting ISO keycaps is as most people use ANSI

Has your order the assembly service included? If the board was assembled you would have to desolder all switches, if not you just need the ANSI plate (or PCB mounted switches).

are you saying that mechanicalkeyboards.com (or someone else) will be given access to all the relevant files and then will be able to source their own manufacturers once everyone in this groupbuy gets their assembled product?

The files will be available for download for anybody, that's why it's called open source.

if so, isn't the whole groupbuy stalled on the assembly process with WFD?

How is the GB stalled? The PCBs get ordered in a few days?

theoretically, if he NEVER finishes assembly, that means that no vendor will ever be able to release these to the general public?

Are you saying that only WFD is able to assemble GH60s? I don't get your thought process here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 03 February 2014, 05:11:11
How hard is it to change from ISO to ANSI (poker plate) on my own? I took over an order and it had an ISO plate but now I noticed how much of an annoyance getting ISO keycaps is as most people use ANSI

Has your order the assembly service included? If the board was assembled you would have to desolder all switches, if not you just need the ANSI plate (or PCB mounted switches).


It has assembly sadly. Well ****. I guess I'll have to live with ISO with this keyboard for now then.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tbc on Mon, 03 February 2014, 05:26:01
ah, i was confusing the stall on the phantom stuff with wfd cause he was on the OP.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 03 February 2014, 05:47:46
It has assembly sadly. Well ****. I guess I'll have to live with ISO with this keyboard for now then.

PM one of the GB organizers, it means less work for them if you don't want assembly ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: boost on Mon, 03 February 2014, 08:10:29
GB Nightmare :D

"I want to change address, and split the order in two and send one pcb to France and one to Hong Kong, I also want a refund and a replacement. And this GB is too slow."


O_O, very true..lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 03 February 2014, 09:20:18
Sadly I don't have the experience nor the equipment to assemble myself, and i don't really want to mess up my first mechanical keyboard!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 03 February 2014, 09:43:32
Sadly I don't have the experience nor the equipment to assemble myself, and i don't really want to mess up my first mechanical keyboard!

I could help you out with that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 04 February 2014, 03:35:39
If anybody is looking for some PCB's, switches, cases, etc, I will have my GH60 order up for sale most likely pretty soon.  You can PM me if you want details.  Sorry if I don't get back to you quickly I'm never on here anymore.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: csmith1991 on Tue, 04 February 2014, 19:36:26
PM Sent MKULTRA
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Sai on Tue, 04 February 2014, 19:54:17
i had a dream last night about finally receiving and using GH60.  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: billnye on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:22:48
I ordered a rev B PCB on Taobao.

 I will post here when it comes in, but I suspect it may take a while!  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:27:59
I ordered a rev B PCB on Taobao.

 I will post here when it comes in, but I suspect it may take a while!  :p

Why would you post in here, in our group buy thread? I think maybe you want this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39702.0) thread, instead.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jinq-sea on Wed, 05 February 2014, 17:11:09
Assuming MKULTRA's order is now spoken for, if anyone has changed their mind (or if any spare PCBs become available) I'd love a GH60!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: billnye on Wed, 05 February 2014, 19:14:38
I ordered a rev B PCB on Taobao.

 I will post here when it comes in, but I suspect it may take a while!  :p

Why would you post in here, in our group buy thread? I think maybe you want this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39702.0) thread, instead.

My bad, I didn't know that thread existed.  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 06 February 2014, 14:50:32
i had a dream last night about finally receiving and using GH60.  :))

I had a dream I would get mine on my birthday. March 16th....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 06 February 2014, 14:52:00
i had a dream last night about finally receiving and using GH60.  :))

I had a dream I would get mine on my birthday. March 16th....

of 2015?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:36:24
not going to lie, im getting a little bit angry about this group buy, my order was like $250 and because it didn't include switches i have to assume that its not spent yet and being held safely in someone's account, someone who has not disappeared off geekhack. 1 of my GH60s was supposed to be a Christmas present for a family member and that never happened, maybe Christmas 2014.....Ill probably just end up selling most of my order, probably for a loss if mechanicalkeyboards.com and others ends up selling them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 February 2014, 15:40:39
not going to lie, im getting a little bit angry about this group buy, my order was like $250 and because it didn't include switches i have to assume that its not spent yet and being held safely in someone's account, someone who has not disappeared off geekhack. 1 of my GH60s was supposed to be a Christmas present for a family member and that never happened, maybe Christmas 2014.....Ill probably just end up selling most of my order, probably for a loss if mechanicalkeyboards.com and others ends up selling them.

Y U MAD, BRO?

TJ has the money (which he collected, if you remember) for the PCBs, which will soon be sent to the fab. Switches are in hand. Plates and stabs should also be ordered soon. Everything is okay. Just relax... :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: cgbuen on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:31:21
I think some of the frustration must come from the fact that everything seemed pretty complete by the payment deadline (6/30), which was well after the order deadline (4/22). But then talk of a bug came up in this thread in October, and after all that testing nothing really actually seemed all that complete basically until last week when komar said they're being ordered. Also, there's the fact that the OP still says WFD having plates made, yet he's been very badly MIA. Maybe I'm wrong but I didn't think that plates had a dependency on the PCBs, so I'm unsure as to why they haven't been produced yet and worried that it's going to draw things out even longer. Do you guys have any comments on any of those things?

Obviously we'd want everything to be good and as bug-free as possible, but the mismatched expectations have been getting to me a little bit. Of course there isn't much but to sit tight and be patient, and I do think people in general are doing a decent job of that - possibly because we at least are getting more frequent updates here than in other GBs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:40:44
There were two rounds of prototype testing within that time, as well as many holidays, both here and in China, etc.

Believe me, it's more frustrating to me than to anyone else that WFD has basically been MIA for quite some time now. But there's not a whole lot that komar nor I can do about that. If he doesn't come back with some info about the plates by the time the PCBs are complete, I will probably take over and just have them made somewhere else.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pasph on Thu, 06 February 2014, 18:24:02
Believe me, it's more frustrating to me than to anyone else that WFD has basically been MIA for quite some time now.

To you than to anyone else?
No, i don't think so...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 06 February 2014, 18:32:15
Believe me, it's more frustrating to me than to anyone else that WFD has basically been MIA for quite some time now.

To you than to anyone else?
No, i don't think so...

Touché.

I only meant in this group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: tricheboars on Thu, 06 February 2014, 19:46:36
So does the new pcb support leds? What has improved over these months?

I am in no hurry at this point. I was about 6 months ago but now.... Not so much. Simply because I have moved on to other projects. Still super psyched about these. I am hoping to give a board to my sister for graduation since she is going to be a writer. Any chance that will happen? She graduates late may.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: regack on Thu, 06 February 2014, 20:04:10
So does the new pcb support leds? What has improved over these months?

I am in no hurry at this point. I was about 6 months ago but now.... Not so much. Simply because I have moved on to other projects. Still super psyched about these. I am hoping to give a board to my sister for graduation since she is going to be a writer. Any chance that will happen? She graduates late may.

It has provisions for LEDs, but will need an external controller (aside from caps, wasd cluster, and one more that I can't remember).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 06 February 2014, 20:11:11
So does the new pcb support leds? What has improved over these months?

I am in no hurry at this point. I was about 6 months ago but now.... Not so much. Simply because I have moved on to other projects. Still super psyched about these. I am hoping to give a board to my sister for graduation since she is going to be a writer. Any chance that will happen? She graduates late may.

It has provisions for LEDs, but will need an external controller (aside from caps, wasd cluster, and one more that I can't remember).


R-Shift arrow cluster?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: sth on Fri, 07 February 2014, 10:13:06
plates are pretty much the least important part of this group buy. additionally dont we have like seven million users who are good with CAD who could be tapped to help with the plates? i don't fault WFD for being busy, but he shouldn't be the bottleneck here... i don't understand.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 07 February 2014, 10:16:51
plates are pretty much the least important part of this group buy. additionally dont we have like seven million users who are good with CAD who could be tapped to help with the plates? i don't fault WFD for being busy, but he shouldn't be the bottleneck here... i don't understand.

What bottleneck? I just said above that I would take care of plates if WFD is still AFK when PCBs are done. PCBs were being prototyped and tested, and now the final revision is being sent to the fab for production.

Edit: Non-GB related posts following this post were moved to this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.0).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: salmo on Fri, 07 February 2014, 18:51:55
What bottleneck? I just said above that I would take care of plates if WFD is still AFK when PCBs are done. PCBs were being prototyped and tested, and now the final revision is being sent to the fab for production.

I mean this as an honest question: Why are we waiting for the PCB's to be done before we figure out what's up with WFD?  Shouldn't orders be put in for plates now, so that these things can get shipped out when we get PCB's back?  I mean at this point, it's been 7 months since money changed hands.  These things can happen in parallel, right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 07 February 2014, 20:27:07
What bottleneck? I just said above that I would take care of plates if WFD is still AFK when PCBs are done. PCBs were being prototyped and tested, and now the final revision is being sent to the fab for production.

I mean this as an honest question: Why are we waiting for the PCB's to be done before we figure out what's up with WFD?  Shouldn't orders be put in for plates now, so that these things can get shipped out when we get PCB's back?  I mean at this point, it's been 7 months since money changed hands.  These things can happen in parallel, right?

Honestly, because I don't want to do it if I don't have to. I work a full time job, have a wife and toddler at home, and I just have very limited free time.

And WFD was in contact with a place local to him to have the plates cut, which I don't have here.

From the beginning, WFD, komar, and I split our duties and responsibilities in this GB. I wanted to be a part of it, but I made it clear that my part would necessarily be limited. If I have to take on other duties, I will, just because I want this GB to succeed. It has already taken quite a long time to get to this point, why do we need to rush things at this point?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: salmo on Fri, 07 February 2014, 22:22:20
Honestly, because I don't want to do it if I don't have to. I work a full time job, have a wife and toddler at home, and I just have very limited free time.

And WFD was in contact with a place local to him to have the plates cut, which I don't have here.

From the beginning, WFD, komar, and I split our duties and responsibilities in this GB. I wanted to be a part of it, but I made it clear that my part would necessarily be limited. If I have to take on other duties, I will, just because I want this GB to succeed. It has already taken quite a long time to get to this point, why do we need to rush things at this point?

I totally appreciate your position, and I don't mean to put it on you.  I'm just thinking maybe now is a time to call for a volunteer here.  I know other folks have cut and sold plates on here before and maybe someone can help.  Or maybe it's time to just refund plate money and make that a separate group buy so orders aren't completely held up by it.

I get the "why rush?", but this seems to be more of a "why drag this out longer?" when there is no reason to serialize these operations.  Then again, I'm not on the inside here, and maybe there is good reason to think WFD will reappear.  So feel free to tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I'll shut up now, but I just think it's time to start thinking about ways to wrap this up and try to avoid more of the issues that go with long-running group buys.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: sth on Sat, 08 February 2014, 03:24:48
jdcarpe - sorry, i hope i didn't sound too impatient; i know you've got real life to deal with too :)
i just wonder the same things as salmo. people are just impatient because things are not as transparent as we'd like. we're a community of DIYers and i think when it seems like there is unnecessary hold-ups in a process we all immediately start looking for ways to get around those problems.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 08 February 2014, 06:10:47
Or maybe it's time to just refund plate money and make that a separate group buy so orders aren't completely held up by it.

Whoa whoa what? Are you crazy? Do you know how much refunding and other chaos that would provoke? No thanks. Why is it time to do that when we don't have the PCBs yet? There is absolutely no hurry to get the plates made. Please don't start rushing this now. Getting the plates made will not take as long as developing and debugging the PCBs. Please calm down.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Sat, 08 February 2014, 07:22:12
Or maybe it's time to just refund plate money and make that a separate group buy so orders aren't completely held up by it.

Whoa whoa what? Are you crazy? Do you know how much refunding and other chaos that would provoke? No thanks. Why is it time to do that when we don't have the PCBs yet? There is absolutely no hurry to get the plates made. Please don't start rushing this now. Getting the plates made will not take as long as developing and debugging the PCBs. Please calm down.

I don't understand your reasoning, there is no reason to delay plate orders if the orders are locked in and people aren't allowed to change their selections. For all you know the PCB's could get finished and then we find out the laser cutting place have a month lead time on new orders. What then?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 08 February 2014, 07:52:04
I don't understand your reasoning, there is no reason to delay plate orders if the orders are locked in and people aren't allowed to change their selections. For all you know the PCB's could get finished and then we find out the laser cutting place have a month lead time on new orders. What then?

I'm talking about making a seperate GB for the plates (the part of his message that I quoted), because that would mean you would have to refund ~300 people and collect payments for those who still want a plate AGAIN. I think that would not only cause chaos but would also delay the plates a lot more.

I agree with you that we could get the plates cut now, but personally I'm not in a hurry.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 08 February 2014, 08:06:30
I don't understand your reasoning, there is no reason to delay plate orders if the orders are locked in and people aren't allowed to change their selections. For all you know the PCB's could get finished and then we find out the laser cutting place have a month lead time on new orders. What then?

I'm talking about making a seperate GB for the plates (the part of his message that I quoted), because that would mean you would have to refund ~300 people and collect payments for those who still want a plate AGAIN. I think that would not only cause chaos but would also delay the plates a lot more.

I agree with you that we could get the plates cut now, but personally I'm not in a hurry.
Not only chaos and delays, but also paypal is not free...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 08 February 2014, 11:49:28
I mean the only reason im also in the group concerned about the plates is that i was part of the phantom group buy. during the phantom group buy the plates were delayed and PCBs sat at bavmans for literally months (this was before he went all MIA). I dont think we can even talk about refunds anymore.

Really sick this **** keeps happening, i don't care who's fault it is at this point. you have MK basically at the gates ready to make and sell GH60 PCBs, they even have TEX Cases. you have PCBs of rev2 on chinese sites. yeah JD, i think i have a right to be agitated in addition to losing so much money on geekhack failed group buys last year.

Completly ignoring the fact the GH60 group buy is much more massive in size, Lets look at the history of the phantom group buy to see why i am MAD bro, this really puts a clear picture on how ****ed up these group buys are and why some things are better suited handled by vendors or massdrop.

Phantom Orders Close - January 2, 2013
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg744422#msg744422

Bavman confirms he has all the through hole parts and feels there is much less than 3 months left in the group buy and jokes about it with confidence - January 31, 2013 - He actually would be right if the plates arrived at the same time of the pcbs
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg785294#msg785294

Bpiphany confirms that he submitted the order to pcbwing (his only part in that group buy) and that there was a delay due to Chinese festival (sound familar guys?) - February 1, 2013
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg785410#msg785410

WFD Closes Plate Orders well after the PCB Orders, however important to remember the plates arent being made in China like the PCBS- February 2, 2013
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg786766#msg786766

WFD Goes quiet for a week doesn't tell us when he submitted the orders for the plates since the orders closed, and then comes back to say there is a delay in the plate making - February 25, 2013
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg807648#msg807648

< insert 2 weeks of me bumping the plates thread literally begging for status, this is also where Profisist went from a respected member of this community to being well what he became>

WFD comes back 2 weeks later after "there was a big problem"? doesn't at all explain what he meant and says he will get the plates in 1 week - March 16, 2013
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg824194#msg824194

Phantom PCBS confirmed arrive at Bavman - March 27, 2013
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg835839#msg835839
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg837737#msg837737

WFD comes back ANOTHER 2 weeks of not giving us any informattin, saying the plates were cut all wrong and ****ed up and he needed to find another plate maker - March 29, 2013
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg837014#msg837014
blames late payments http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg837981#msg837981

Bavman sends out PCB-Only work orders - April 12, 2013
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg850869#msg850869

WFD receives the bulk of the plates and if i am reading correctly it is only then that he has Beast make the lower-quantity designs - April 26, 2013
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg869699#msg869699

Beast finishes and ships the low-quantity designs - May 13, 2013 the bulk of the plates were still with WFD for 3 weeks and the PCBs are still with bavman awaiting the plates.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg890637#msg890637

WFD Ships the "plate-only" orders - May 22, 2013
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg900874#msg900874

WFD Ships plates to Bavman - June 01, 2013,
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.msg912873#msg912873

Bavman Finally Receives Plates from WFD - June 03, 2013
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg915450#msg915450

Bavman Sorts and ships one of the only 2 rounds of Plate/PCB Combo orders he ends up sending out before going MIA - June 10, 2013
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg924147#msg924147


In the case of the phantom group buy, i dont know if people realize this but it wasn't initially bavman that held up the plate/pcb combo orders, it was WFD's plate maker and in some part WFD himself, Issues with the plates caused Plate/Combo orders to not go out for 2-3 months as we learned only part of the orders went out in june but he did send out like half the orders in under 2 weeks after getting the plates. Afterwards bavman went MIA which was caused by some life event (bavman was seen as very trustworthy before this "event")

Point is if the plates came in March at the same time as the PCBs, would bavman been able to to get out all the orders before his "event" that caused him to go MIA? Wasn't it WFD's plate maker/himself that caused the phantom group buy to nose dive? please guys tell me i'm not the only one that noticed this.


Yes call me crazy for writing this up, but im not crazy when i say plates should be ordered as soon as possible, because problems may happen and you have a massive amount of orders. tell me why i am wrong after seeing the above. especially because WFD is "still" in charge of getting the plates.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:34:40
Oh boy, as much as I'd love to build a phantom I am glad that I wasn't part of the mess you listed...

Maybe I am naive but with JD involved I can't imagine the GH60 GB will become such a fiasco :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 08 February 2014, 12:53:08
snip

6 months!!! I don't think I could cope with another 6 months...  It's already been over 8 months since invoices were sent out...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 08 February 2014, 13:03:20
I agree with Glod. There is no reason to wait for WFD to find time to do this. Waiting now, could turn this into a huge cluster fuk.. :(

Now at the same time, I think everyone one involved has done what they could to keep this rolling. I just see lots of other GBs going south and
people are starting to get gun shy about things going south... :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pasph on Sat, 08 February 2014, 13:49:39
I'm still waiting for WFD to ship my Phantom kits...and while i was waiting he has bought and sold items on Hardforum..
Thanks to TheProf and WFD until now i've lost more than $700
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 08 February 2014, 13:56:48
yeah JD, i think i have a right to be agitated in addition to losing so much money on geekhack failed group buys last year.

Completly ignoring the fact the GH60 group buy is much more massive in size, Lets look at the history of the phantom group buy to see why i am MAD bro, this really puts a clear picture on how ****ed up these group buys are and why some things are better suited handled by vendors or massdrop.

Wow, cry much? None of that pertains to this group buy. If WFD doesn't come back and handle his part of this GB, I already said I would do it. But it will be on my own time. Period. komar, TJ, and I are the remaining organizers of this GB, and we will keep our own counsel as to when and how things should be done, thank you very much.


I agree with Glod. There is no reason to wait for WFD to find time to do this. Waiting now, could turn this into a huge cluster fuk.. :(

Now at the same time, I think everyone one involved has done what they could to keep this rolling. I just see lots of other GBs going south and
people are starting to get gun shy about things going south... :/

Oh good, so will it be you or Glod who volunteers to take over the plate production??


Maybe I am naive but with JD involved I can't imagine the GH60 GB will become such a fiasco :)

Thanks for your support, LechnerDE. And thanks to all the other ~200 people who aren't in here whining about a group buy that is proceeding as best it can.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 08 February 2014, 14:38:36
WTF dude, i'm sorry if i want to know how my $239.26 USD paid on 5/29/2013 (255 days ago) is doing. Everyone i talk to in the non-keyboard world says i got robbed and i have no argument to tell them otherwise.

If your going to tell me "cry much" that really just shows the kind of person you really are. I'm not telling you how to run your group buy; I'm simply pointing out that WFD and his plates delayed the Phantom, so im asking and your "team" a simple question, how the **** are you going to prevent that from happening again with the plates when you have twice the orders. how about some ****ing transparency instead making this one of the worst group buys in geekhack history.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:08:33
dude, i'm sorry

I accept your apology.



I'm not telling you how to run your group buy

ORLY?

Quote
i say plates should be ordered as soon as possible, because problems may happen and you have a massive amount of orders.



im asking and your "team" a simple question, how the **** are you going to prevent that from happening again with the plates when you have twice the orders?

I already addressed that:

If [WFD] doesn't come back with some info about the plates by the time the PCBs are complete, I will probably take over and just have them made somewhere else.



Reading is fun(damental)!

Any other questions that I've already answered, or are you really just trolling now?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:25:34
I hate it when those I look up to fight because it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth that popcorn simply can't mask.

If only there was something I could do to make it all better... I know!

(http://l.mashby.com/j1Iu+)


Hope I don't come off too glib, just trying to lighten things up a little bit.

I really respect both you guys and I hate for things getting out of hand like this when I know that neither of you are intending to hurt one another's feelings, or rub each other the wrong way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: salmo on Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:33:36
Wow, cry much?..

Seriously dude?  Really?  People make an argument and your response is just to make personal attacks instead of trying to address the point...  You can belittle folks all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that "proceeding as best as it can" is a bit of an overstatement here.  You have your boards already, our money, and are dragging your feet on actually delivering anything to anyone's door.  My money was paid on Jun 2, and the only thing in someone's hand now is switches.  Ever minor speedbump so far has turned into a multi-month ordeal, so you have to forgive folks when they want you to start talking about how you're planning for the looming problem, and don't exactly take "I got this" as a good enough answer. 

You'll note that I also suggested opening up the plate-making to volunteers, since we have more than a few people who have ordered one of these and that also make plates.  But I see that this is apparently more of a Geekhack clique teenage drama thing.

I'll just point out that my patience and ability to just trust folks is diminishing here, especially when you're just calling people who bring up issues names.  To put it simply, I paid money for something, and it's well past the time I was supposed to receive it.  Is it going to be at my door in the next couple months or do I need to be talking to someone about a refund?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 08 February 2014, 16:54:24
I hate it when those I look up to fight because it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth that popcorn simply can't mask.

If only there was something I could do to make it all better... I know!

Show Image
(http://l.mashby.com/j1Iu+)



Hope I don't come off too glib, just trying to lighten things up a little bit.

I really respect both you guys and I hate for things getting out of hand like this when I know that neither of you are intending to hurt one another's feelings, or rub each other the wrong way.

I know, mashby. The only reason I responded to Glod's post at all is because I like the guy. I hate that he has lost confidence in this buy, for whatever reason.

Other people posting about issues I've already addressed in this thread don't even merit a response, and won't be getting one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 08 February 2014, 17:11:18
I hate it when those I look up to fight because it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth that popcorn simply can't mask.

If only there was something I could do to make it all better... I know!

Hope I don't come off too glib, just trying to lighten things up a little bit.

I really respect both you guys and I hate for things getting out of hand like this when I know that neither of you are intending to hurt one another's feelings, or rub each other the wrong way.

I know, mashby. The only reason I responded to Glod's post at all is because I like the guy. I hate that he has lost confidence in this buy, for whatever reason.

Other people posting about issues I've already addressed in this thread don't even merit a response, and won't be getting one.

:/ Glod damn it...**** I don't want to make enemies here. Lost my cool for sure.

Just angry lately, really angry, about group buys on geekhack and my own personal finances. so yeah, ill try to stop before i hurt things. I don't regret everything i said though so just please do your best JD, That's all that i can ask really at this point.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Sat, 08 February 2014, 19:31:51
I hate it when those I look up to fight because it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth that popcorn simply can't mask.

If only there was something I could do to make it all better... I know!

Hope I don't come off too glib, just trying to lighten things up a little bit.

I really respect both you guys and I hate for things getting out of hand like this when I know that neither of you are intending to hurt one another's feelings, or rub each other the wrong way.

I know, mashby. The only reason I responded to Glod's post at all is because I like the guy. I hate that he has lost confidence in this buy, for whatever reason.

Other people posting about issues I've already addressed in this thread don't even merit a response, and won't be getting one.

:/ Glod damn it...**** I don't want to make enemies here. Lost my cool for sure.

Just angry lately, really angry, about group buys on geekhack and my own personal finances. so yeah, ill try to stop before i hurt things. I don't regret everything i said though so just please do your best JD, That's all that i can ask really at this point.

Don't second guess yourself mate, totally agree with your points.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: salmo on Sat, 08 February 2014, 22:22:41
Quote from: jdcarpe
Other people posting about issues I've already addressed in this thread don't even merit a response, and won't be getting one.

Real classy.  Will you be giving me my refund or do I need to file a dispute?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 08 February 2014, 22:33:55
If there is anything I can do, I'll be glad to help! Got a couple of laser cutters in town... Just no bending plates... I failed Beast on getting a place to bend plates :/ (sorry ben!!!)
Who is taking up assembly on this again?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sun, 09 February 2014, 05:53:49
Jesus christ people, just be patient. You knew what you were signing up for when entering a group buy and one of the requirements is PATIENCE!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 09 February 2014, 06:04:48
Jesus christ people, just be patient. You knew what you were signing up for when entering a group buy and one of the requirements is PATIENCE!

Whilst I think people are being patient, I also think it's fair to be asking some serious questions - in the first post it still says:

ETA for all parts will be around September if there are no major delays

and at this stage we're 5 months past that and things haven't been ordered yet...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: bueller on Sun, 09 February 2014, 06:12:55
Reading the end of this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49600.50) has me wondering why you would still have WFD in charge of plates  when he's clearly so busy he can't reply to PM's for months on end. Oh, because some people on the internet said so. Riiiiight.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: JonasDK on Sun, 09 February 2014, 06:29:08
Quote from: jdcarpe
Other people posting about issues I've already addressed in this thread don't even merit a response, and won't be getting one.

Real classy.  Will you be giving me my refund or do I need to file a dispute?
Or you could just sell your order like everyone else that can't wait.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 07:24:29
Jesus christ people, just be patient. You knew what you were signing up for when entering a group buy and one of the requirements is PATIENCE!

Whilst I think people are being patient, I also think it's fair to be asking some serious questions - in the first post it still says:

ETA for all parts will be around September if there are no major delays

and at this stage we're 5 months past that and things haven't been ordered yet...

Well, it also says "if there are no major delays", and there were major delays. Like 3 at least. One was WFD being busy, the other one was longer time to produce the prototypes than we had expected, then after the prototypes were sent there was very little feedback about them, and all in all that was the point of prototypes. And then I couldn't finish bugfixing as fast as I had wished to, because of studies and exams, so I'm sorry, not everything can go as planned.
We're currently about 6 months past deadline and I actually think it's not that bad. Producing a real device takes time and a number of revisions and huge money. I just regret having said the boards could be finished in September. It was just a rough best-case calculation, and I believe I did say it too. Then this information was just copied all over the place and everybody assumed this was our "release" date. And it wasn't.
We've done just one round of prototypes (as rev. A was basically a completely different device...) and we can't rush just because something before slowed the process down, we don't want to end up having faulty boards.
As for plates, just let JD do what he does. I won't take over the plates and the responsibility for them, because I don't know places where they can be cut or even the designs for all our options. It's not such an easy thing to just pass this on to somebody and assume they'll be done correctly.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 09 February 2014, 07:56:25
Jesus christ people, just be patient. You knew what you were signing up for when entering a group buy and one of the requirements is PATIENCE!

Whilst I think people are being patient, I also think it's fair to be asking some serious questions - in the first post it still says:

ETA for all parts will be around September if there are no major delays

and at this stage we're 5 months past that and things haven't been ordered yet...

Well, it also says "if there are no major delays", and there were major delays. Like 3 at least. One was WFD being busy, the other one was longer time to produce the prototypes than we had expected, then after the prototypes were sent there was very little feedback about them, and all in all that was the point of prototypes. And then I couldn't finish bugfixing as fast as I had wished to, because of studies and exams, so I'm sorry, not everything can go as planned.
We're currently about 6 months past deadline and I actually think it's not that bad. Producing a real device takes time and a number of revisions and huge money. I just regret having said the boards could be finished in September. It was just a rough best-case calculation, and I believe I did say it too. Then this information was just copied all over the place and everybody assumed this was our "release" date. And it wasn't.
We've done just one round of prototypes (as rev. A was basically a completely different device...) and we can't rush just because something before slowed the process down, we don't want to end up having faulty boards.
As for plates, just let JD do what he does. I won't take over the plates and the responsibility for them, because I don't know places where they can be cut or even the designs for all our options. It's not such an easy thing to just pass this on to somebody and assume they'll be done correctly.

Fair point - thanks for the information and reply.  I think the main thing which is getting to people is the lack of information - delays can obviously happen and there's nothing that anyone can do to avoid them but at least having a grasp on what's going on is what I'm after certainly.  What'd be really nice is a timeframe e.g. when things are going to be ordered, the lead times from the factories etc.  At the minute, for all we know, we could be waiting another 6 months for these...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: damorgue on Sun, 09 February 2014, 08:14:44
I think this was all sparked by several recent GB failures and events which have people on edge. It was mentioned that the work on plates won't begin until the PCBs are done and this seems like a delay without any reason. There hasn't been many explanations posted which adds to the already quite strained trust to GBs around here.


I think the majority of this is probably the tense view people have gotten to GB based on recent events in other GBs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: salmo on Sun, 09 February 2014, 08:45:28
Being patient means waiting 6 months when the guess was three.  I'm not being unreasonable here.  I'm fine with 10 months.  But this won't be completed in 10, and it's not because of "major delays."  We've accounted for 1 delay so far (the bug in rev b.).  When I brought up the issue of trying to minimize the WFD delay, that's when found out that no one is in a hurry to get this to anyone. 

Maybe you already have yours so you're in no rush.  Maybe a year isn't a long time to you all and your lives are relatively static. 

But in three months, I'm not going to have time to work on this anymore.  As the plan stands it's looking like we'll be lucky if this stuff is shipped to people in 4 months.  (manufacturing and delivering of the PCB, sourcing plates, ordering them, getting those shipped and sorted, etc.)  We're still doing things that should have been done before money was collected (sourcing plates, etc.).

This is not what I signed up for.  I want out.  If someone has anything that is mine (switches, etc), I'll be happy to pay for that and shipping to send it to me.  If someone want to work something out where someone buys my order, that's fine.   I'm not trying to screw anyone over, I'm flexible, but at some point I have to get my money back one way or another.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: iAmAhab on Sun, 09 February 2014, 08:51:11
Here is a suggestion, stop being a little *****.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 09 February 2014, 08:53:54
Here is a suggestion, stop being a little *****.

Go away please. Adults are talking.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 09 February 2014, 09:29:26
We're still doing things that should have been done before money was collected (sourcing plates, etc.).

Have you read the OP?

I designed and will have the plates made.

The CAD files were made and WFD had a source for them. So are you saying the plates should have been produced before the GB started? See the error in your logic there?

We've accounted for 1 delay so far (the bug in rev b.).

Three posts above yours:

Well, it also says "if there are no major delays", and there were major delays. Like 3 at least. One was WFD being busy, the other one was longer time to produce the prototypes than we had expected, then after the prototypes were sent there was very little feedback about them, and all in all that was the point of prototypes. And then I couldn't finish bugfixing as fast as I had wished to, because of studies and exams, so I'm sorry, not everything can go as planned.

This is not what I signed up for.  I want out.

As somebody else already suggested, just sell your order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: battletux on Sun, 09 February 2014, 12:39:38
I was wondering when people would start to lose patience with this group buy.

I'm really thankful for Komar, JDCarpe and WFD (and anyone else I've missed who has helped in this) for their time and energy in putting this together. Now I was expecting a delay so the time this has taken is not too surprising, however I'll admit to not being too happy with this, my first, GB.

The main things that I have issues with are First and Foremost the fact that If I wanted I could go and purchase a Rev B PCB right now if I wanted to. The wait would not be anywhere near as long as this GB. This does make me feel a little cheated having helped fund the KB with my GB knowing people are getting the fruits of investment before myself and the other backers receive their KBs. In hindsight, releasing the PCB schematics before the GB was completed and KBs shipped was maybe the wrong move. I know the rev B has a bug but I don't think it is a deal breaker bug. If I ever do another KB GB then it will be one where any PCB schematics are only released after the KBs are shipped.


The 2nd issue for me is the fact that a lot of us have handed over a large sum of money that is just sitting in someones account accruing them interest. Yes some would have been spent on prototypes, but the bulk of the money is just sitting there earning someone a little profit. I know this can't be helped due to the length of this GB but for the time this has been going on for and agin going forwards if I do join another group buy it will be one where only a deposit is paid initially until the actual hardware needs ordering. It would also help with budgeting for the GB too.



Sorry to be negative, but I'm starting to become disillusioned with this GB. It also don't help that the only other one I've signed up for was the toxic GB....

I'm grateful for everyones work on this but the time it is taking is starting to take it's toll. Anything that can be done to speed up getting orders out is a good thing in my book.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 February 2014, 13:15:03

The 2nd issue for me is the fact that a lot of us have handed over a large sum of money that is just sitting in someones account accruing them interest. Yes some would have been spent on prototypes, but the bulk of the money is just sitting there earning someone a little profit. I know this can't be helped due to the length of this GB but for the time this has been going on for and agin going forwards if I do join another group buy it will be one where only a deposit is paid initially until the actual hardware needs ordering. It would also help with budgeting for the GB too.

Rather than earning interest, sitting on this amount of money, which all came in at once, and didn't have an invoice receipt for the expenditure of it in the same calendar year, even though every bit of money that was collected will be spent on the GB, it actually creates a tax liability for the person who collected the money. PayPal is required to report to the IRS any collections of more than $20,000 in total and/or 200 transactions. I just hope TJ doesn't end up owing a bunch in taxes for collecting the money. :(

And to be clear, none of the organizers are making any profit from the GB orders. The only money we may get to keep is from the assembly service, which we will earn by providing that service for those who ordered it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 10 February 2014, 02:50:09
The good news is, TJ is now sitting on less amount of money, as the PCB production is starting right now. I'll pass the information about the estimated lead time as soon as I get it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 10 February 2014, 03:26:56
Great! Thanks for the update komar, so what colour did we settle on? Oh. And what colour are the plates anyway?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 10 February 2014, 03:30:47
I ordered white, because many people liked them after the prototypes were made. The silkscreen is black this time.
I know we can't please everyone, doing many colors is just too much hassle. I hope this is fine, at least for most people.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 10 February 2014, 03:38:29
White is nice, original at the least. And if they really don't like it they c an  cover it up with a plate, so people shouldn't complain about it. Great work!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Mon, 10 February 2014, 09:04:21
:gasp: i can't even believe what i just read. Is it still too soon to get slightly excited?

Also... just throwing this out there: how cool/interesting/offensive would it be to do a "toxic" green version? (or maybe just black, or super-dark-gray, w/ toxic green silkscreen...)

No, i don't expect this to happen, just a thought i wanted to share.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 10 February 2014, 09:12:41
The good news is, TJ is now sitting on less amount of money, as the PCB production is starting right now. I'll pass the information about the estimated lead time as soon as I get it.

Exciting!  A couple of questions if you don't mind:

1) Are the plates being ordered now too?

2) My order only contains 2 PCBs and a plate - once they're in will it be sent out?  Obviously I'd rather not wait for the stabs / switches etc to arrive if I'm not getting any of them.

Thanks again

George
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 10 February 2014, 09:23:36
Also... just throwing this out there: how cool/interesting/offensive would it be to do a "toxic" green version? (or maybe just black, or super-dark-gray, w/ toxic green silkscreen...)

You can do that if you find a manufacturer that offers these colors since the PCB files will be published once the GB ends ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Mon, 10 February 2014, 09:33:10
Also... just throwing this out there: how cool/interesting/offensive would it be to do a "toxic" green version? (or maybe just black, or super-dark-gray, w/ toxic green silkscreen...)

You can do that if you find a manufacturer that offers these colors since the PCB files will be published once the GB ends ;)

Welp, looks like i'm off to learn how to make color-matched silkscreen! (not really!)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 10 February 2014, 11:31:32
The good news is, TJ is now sitting on less amount of money, as the PCB production is starting right now. I'll pass the information about the estimated lead time as soon as I get it.

Exciting!  A couple of questions if you don't mind:

1) Are the plates being ordered now too?
plates will be taken care of soon

2) My order only contains 2 PCBs and a plate - once they're in will it be sent out?  Obviously I'd rather not wait for the stabs / switches etc to arrive if I'm not getting any of them.
I'll try to make up some sensible packing algorithm in case the various parts don't come all together. So probably you can assume yes;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 10 February 2014, 11:34:24
I ordered white, because many people liked them after the prototypes were made. The silkscreen is black this time.
I know we can't please everyone, doing many colors is just too much hassle. I hope this is fine, at least for most people.

:(


No purple
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 10 February 2014, 11:39:51
pcbcart has no purple option...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tgujay on Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:15:46
pcbcart has no purple option...

Sounds like the wrong manufacturer then, purple or go home.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:18:50
pcbcart has no purple option...

Sounds like the wrong manufacturer then, purple or go home.

If you guys want purple that bad just get the files and send them to oshpark. :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:23:36

plates will be taken care of soon

Did the PCB manufacturer give you any ETA on their production time?

Also, when you say the plates are going to be taken care of soon, is WFD back handling it?

Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:42:46
I just don't want white PCB's. Any dark color would be better IMO for not showing solder burn marks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:44:03
I just don't want white PCB's. Any dark color would be better IMO for not showing solder burn marks.
If you clean the flux away after you really don't see any discolouring
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:45:36
I just don't want white PCB's. Any dark color would be better IMO for not showing solder burn marks.

This is not a good reason not go go white. I haven't seen any burn marks on the white PCB, and black matte is much harder to clean and also much more prone to scratches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:45:48
double post:/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:46:29

Did the PCB manufacturer give you any ETA on their production time?

The good news is, TJ is now sitting on less amount of money, as the PCB production is starting right now. I'll pass the information about the estimated lead time as soon as I get it.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: agor on Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:58:56
This is good news. Thanks to all people involved for their effort
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 10 February 2014, 13:00:20
So what is the color going to be?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: hoggy on Mon, 10 February 2014, 13:05:15
The good news is, TJ is now sitting on less amount of money, as the PCB production is starting right now. I'll pass the information about the estimated lead time as soon as I get it.

Yay!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 February 2014, 13:08:06
So what is the color going to be?

I ordered white, because many people liked them after the prototypes were made. The silkscreen is black this time.
I know we can't please everyone, doing many colors is just too much hassle. I hope this is fine, at least for most people.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Aleksander on Mon, 10 February 2014, 13:14:47
The day was ruined as I found out I had to stay three more days in Sweden for the job I am doing, but now my mood has returned and I am happy again :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 10 February 2014, 13:18:29
The good news is, TJ is now sitting on less amount of money, as the PCB production is starting right now. I'll pass the information about the estimated lead time as soon as I get it.

Awesome!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 10 February 2014, 13:19:49
Thanks Spamray I completely read over that.

I guess it doesn't really matter since I'm using a plate anyways. I was more thinking about inexperienced builders who might run into issues and end up with yellow spots. I've never tried to solder on a white PCB before so I'm just going off what I've read regarding the white PCB's that MK was selling.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 10 February 2014, 13:28:20
woooooooo production
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 11 February 2014, 02:09:38
The good news is, TJ is now sitting on less amount of money, as the PCB production is starting right now. I'll pass the information about the estimated lead time as soon as I get it.

Exciting!  A couple of questions if you don't mind:

1) Are the plates being ordered now too?
plates will be taken care of soon

2) My order only contains 2 PCBs and a plate - once they're in will it be sent out?  Obviously I'd rather not wait for the stabs / switches etc to arrive if I'm not getting any of them.
I'll try to make up some sensible packing algorithm in case the various parts don't come all together. So probably you can assume yes;)

That'd be awesome - thanks chap :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 11 February 2014, 04:23:19
A very rough ETA on the boards is 4-5 weeks, but it depends on when the components arrive. Probably they'll update me with something more precise later. But basing on my (little) experience I would assume at least 5 weeks from now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 11 February 2014, 12:45:08
A very rough ETA on the boards is 4-5 weeks, but it depends on when the components arrive. Probably they'll update me with something more precise later. But basing on my (little) experience I would assume at least 5 weeks from now.

guys please remember that this does not include sorting, shipping, and acquiring the other parts.  furthermore if you ordered assembly services your wait will be even longer.  the pcbs are just one part of the puzzle/gh60.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Turbinia on Tue, 11 February 2014, 13:29:47
Very excited to get these things in my hands! Great work guys.

If we got assembly service, any way to not have that done now and just have the stuff shipped (yes I know, no changing orders)? That or if any of it is happening in the central Florida area I would gladly lend my soldering/packing skills.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Loligagger on Tue, 11 February 2014, 14:18:33
If anyone's interested I'm selling my order of a single PCB (with smd components presoldered).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: AKmalamute on Tue, 11 February 2014, 14:41:20
If anyone's interested I'm selling my order of a single PCB (with smd components presoldered).

Slightly interested. What was the cost? And CONUS shipping, et al? Stared at Salmo's sale but I only really want one ...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 11 February 2014, 15:15:10
FYI, in case anyone was wondering. The second part is not a maybe -- it's now a definite.

NO ORDER CHANGES



Also, I think we may be at the point where, if you sell your order, you just have to ship it yourself. Changing shipping addresses for 206 people ain't happening, folks.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 11 February 2014, 15:31:05
Sorry, I may have given Loligagger false info:/
I'll take care of his shipping info if necessary.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 11 February 2014, 19:17:01
I'm interested in getting my hands on a GH60.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 11 February 2014, 19:21:06
If anyone in CONUS bought a prefab PCB that they don't want anymore I will buy it from them. Just putting this out there
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: fengor on Fri, 14 February 2014, 04:40:30
If there are leftovers or pullout destined for .eu I'd be interested in taking over
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 14 February 2014, 05:14:25
The current ETA on the PCB and SMD assembly is "around March 28". Unfortunately they have to wait for atmega32u4 from their supplier.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Fri, 14 February 2014, 05:29:16
The current ETA on the PCB and SMD assembly is "around March 28". Unfortunately they have to wait for atmega32u4 from their supplier.

And before anyone gets their panties in a knot, this is an ETA and not a promise.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 14 February 2014, 08:31:29
The current ETA on the PCB and SMD assembly is "around March 28". Unfortunately they have to wait for atmega32u4 from their supplier.

Oooh - a tentative date :)  Where in the world are these being produced?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 14 February 2014, 08:46:31
Oooh - a tentative date :)  Where in the world are these being produced?

Guess ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: regack on Fri, 14 February 2014, 08:48:03
Oooh - a tentative date :)  Where in the world are these being produced?

Guess ;D

Suriname?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 14 February 2014, 08:48:22
China, of course. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:26:47
Upon reflection that was a bit obvious I suppose :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 14 February 2014, 09:59:21
Small update:

Remember this snarky reply?

I agree with Glod. There is no reason to wait for WFD to find time to do this. Waiting now, could turn this into a huge cluster fuk.. :(

Now at the same time, I think everyone one involved has done what they could to keep this rolling. I just see lots of other GBs going south and
people are starting to get gun shy about things going south... :/

Oh good, so will it be you or Glod who volunteers to take over the plate production??

Well, ApocalypseMaow somehow looked past my snide remark, stepped up his game, and volunteered to help with getting plates cut at a local laser cutter. He has received a quote back from at least one place, which falls within our budget for what we charged GB participants for the plates. So he will be having a sample made soon, and if all goes well, we could have plates in production in the near future. Now, this does hinge on getting a quality sample from the laser cutter, so nothing is set in stone (steel?) yet, but things are in motion already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:03:07
Small update:

Remember this snarky reply?

I agree with Glod. There is no reason to wait for WFD to find time to do this. Waiting now, could turn this into a huge cluster fuk.. :(

Now at the same time, I think everyone one involved has done what they could to keep this rolling. I just see lots of other GBs going south and
people are starting to get gun shy about things going south... :/

Oh good, so will it be you or Glod who volunteers to take over the plate production??

Well, ApocalypseMaow somehow looked past my snide remark, stepped up his game, and volunteered to help with getting plates cut at a local laser cutter. He has received a quote back from at least one place, which falls within our budget for what we charged GB participants for the plates. So he will be having a sample made soon, and if all goes well, we could have plates in production in the near future. Now, this does hinge on getting a quality sample from the laser cutter, so nothing is set in stone (steel?) yet, but things are in motion already.

Awesome news! Thanks very much, ApocalypseMaow.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: n0rvig on Fri, 14 February 2014, 11:35:02
Small update:

Well, ApocalypseMaow somehow looked past my snide remark, stepped up his game, and volunteered to help with getting plates cut at a local laser cutter. He has received a quote back from at least one place, which falls within our budget for what we charged GB participants for the plates. So he will be having a sample made soon, and if all goes well, we could have plates in production in the near future. Now, this does hinge on getting a quality sample from the laser cutter, so nothing is set in stone (steel?) yet, but things are in motion already.

haha! Well that's pretty awesome! Great initiative ApocalypseMaow!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 14 February 2014, 11:57:25
Small update:

Well, ApocalypseMaow somehow looked past my snide remark, stepped up his game, and volunteered to help with getting plates cut at a local laser cutter. He has received a quote back from at least one place, which falls within our budget for what we charged GB participants for the plates. So he will be having a sample made soon, and if all goes well, we could have plates in production in the near future. Now, this does hinge on getting a quality sample from the laser cutter, so nothing is set in stone (steel?) yet, but things are in motion already.

Plates, plates...  switch plates, I'm guessing?  This doesn't impact those of us who just ordered PCBs, switches, etc.?  I already have a couple of those stainless steel Poker plates from The_Beast's earlier GB, just waiting on the PCB so I can get started on a first Poker build. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 14 February 2014, 12:01:28
Small update:

Well, ApocalypseMaow somehow looked past my snide remark, stepped up his game, and volunteered to help with getting plates cut at a local laser cutter. He has received a quote back from at least one place, which falls within our budget for what we charged GB participants for the plates. So he will be having a sample made soon, and if all goes well, we could have plates in production in the near future. Now, this does hinge on getting a quality sample from the laser cutter, so nothing is set in stone (steel?) yet, but things are in motion already.

Plates, plates...  switch plates, I'm guessing?  This doesn't impact those of us who just ordered PCBs, switches, etc.?  I already have a couple of those stainless steel Poker plates from The_Beast's earlier GB, just waiting on the PCB so I can get started on a first Poker build. 

Yes, switch plates.

The current ETA on the PCB and SMD assembly is "around March 28". Unfortunately they have to wait for atmega32u4 from their supplier.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 14 February 2014, 15:56:33
Thanks ApocalypseMaow!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 14 February 2014, 19:28:36
Awesome news!
My thanks to all involved, this is no small undertaking.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 14 February 2014, 22:29:18
I ordered white, because many people liked them after the prototypes were made. The silkscreen is black this time.
I know we can't please everyone, doing many colors is just too much hassle. I hope this is fine, at least for most people.

the white pcb's will not be as prone to solder burn marks because they are a gloss finish and not a matte finish as the black pcb's were.
also I am not a professional at through hole soldering but I have soldered/desoldered my rev a prototype pcb about 4 times already and it has held up fine.
The white pcb's are more durable and should be much much easier to clean as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 15 February 2014, 01:19:39
Is it possible to remove the 4x PCB Cherry stabilizers from my order?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 15 February 2014, 06:12:14
Is it possible to remove the 4x PCB Cherry stabilizers from my order?

No more order changes at this point.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 15 February 2014, 17:54:49
Is it possible to remove the 4x PCB Cherry stabilizers from my order?

No more order changes at this point.
See you in the classifieds...  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 15 February 2014, 18:45:15
Is it possible to remove the 4x PCB Cherry stabilizers from my order?

No more order changes at this point.
See you in the classifieds...  ;D

I suspect that selling stabs should be fairly easy to accomplish, especially considering that they're not commercially available anywhere (except 2x PCB mount).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: JayKthnx on Sun, 16 February 2014, 04:14:00
I've picked up one of the orders. Definitely looking forward to building this deck.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 16 February 2014, 08:27:31
Oooh its really finally in production :D
(http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo351/rocbayne1980/Funny/Funny%20animated/297animated_gif_applause.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tricheboars on Mon, 17 February 2014, 12:16:47
thank you very much ApocalypseMaow! thanks for stepping up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 17 February 2014, 15:45:17
thank you very much ApocalypseMaow! thanks for stepping up.
No problem, now if redline would let me proxy DSA dolch too...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: T0ken on Tue, 18 February 2014, 14:20:17
This been asked a few times, but I'm not sure who to contact since I'm from Canada (awkwardly neither US or EU). I'll need to change my shipping address...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 15:07:46
This been asked a few times, but I'm not sure who to contact since I'm from Canada (awkwardly neither US or EU). I'll need to change my shipping address...

Canada is handled by jdcarpe
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: agodinhost on Tue, 18 February 2014, 15:11:48
It's for real?
Really??
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: T0ken on Tue, 18 February 2014, 17:47:50
This been asked a few times, but I'm not sure who to contact since I'm from Canada (awkwardly neither US or EU). I'll need to change my shipping address...

Canada is handled by jdcarpe

Thanks for the quick reply Komar
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 19 February 2014, 11:23:22
Sorry if this is repetitive, but I can't seem to find the info anywhere. The thread is long, and I can't tell if there have been major updates that negate the info in older posts.
Is this GB still open for new orders? If I'd like to order a GH60, should I use the form in the OP? Another form? If not, will they be readily available somewhere else? I saw someone mention mechanicalkeyboards...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 19 February 2014, 11:25:00

Sorry if this is repetitive, but I can't seem to find the info anywhere. The thread is long, and I can't tell if there have been major updates that negate the info in older posts.
Is this GB still open for new orders? If I'd like to order a GH60, should I use the form in the OP? Another form? If not, will they be readily available somewhere else? I saw someone mention mechanicalkeyboards...

Orders are locked. They will show up on classifieds, and mk.com is rumored to begin carrying them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 19 February 2014, 11:26:18
Great. Thanks for the info, and quick reply. I'm really excited that these will be available (relatively) soon!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mzero on Wed, 19 February 2014, 12:24:48

Sorry if this is repetitive, but I can't seem to find the info anywhere. The thread is long, and I can't tell if there have been major updates that negate the info in older posts.
Is this GB still open for new orders? If I'd like to order a GH60, should I use the form in the OP? Another form? If not, will they be readily available somewhere else? I saw someone mention mechanicalkeyboards...

Orders are locked. They will show up on classifieds, and mk.com is rumored to begin carrying them.

Sorry, who is mk.com? MechanicalKeyboards.com? If yes, I'd already asked it to them, and they say NO and that it was the first time they here about to sell it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 19 February 2014, 12:25:45
As I said, it's a rumor. We'll see how it pans out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 February 2014, 12:29:30

Sorry if this is repetitive, but I can't seem to find the info anywhere. The thread is long, and I can't tell if there have been major updates that negate the info in older posts.
Is this GB still open for new orders? If I'd like to order a GH60, should I use the form in the OP? Another form? If not, will they be readily available somewhere else? I saw someone mention mechanicalkeyboards...

Orders are locked. They will show up on classifieds, and mk.com is rumored to begin carrying them.

Sorry, who is mk.com? MechanicalKeyboards.com? If yes, I'd already asked it to them, and they say NO and that it was the first time they here about to sell it.

It would probably depend on whom you talked to there. I already discussed it with them, but not one PCB (final revision) will be publicly available before group buy orders ship. That is only fair to the people who supported this project with their money and supreme patience.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 February 2014, 12:33:21

Sorry if this is repetitive, but I can't seem to find the info anywhere. The thread is long, and I can't tell if there have been major updates that negate the info in older posts.
Is this GB still open for new orders? If I'd like to order a GH60, should I use the form in the OP? Another form? If not, will they be readily available somewhere else? I saw someone mention mechanicalkeyboards...

Orders are locked. They will show up on classifieds, and mk.com is rumored to begin carrying them.

Sorry, who is mk.com? MechanicalKeyboards.com? If yes, I'd already asked it to them, and they say NO and that it was the first time they here about to sell it.

Thanks SpamRay.  That's the impression I got.

I'll let jdcarpe know to contact us when it's ready if he would like us to make a run.

I will be sure to do that. Once the GB members start receiving them, MK.com can stock them for everyone who missed out. But it wouldn't be very fair to those who put their faith and money into the GB to get bypassed in the process.

also
Would there be possible Phantom PCB plates? considering the Phantom PCB is now on sale from the site?

Working on it.  Not sure when we'll have them.

I'd like to put together complete kits for Phantom and ErgoDox (and GH60) eventually.

Also, nice Avatar.


What's the latest on GH60?  I would still love to get a couple hundred of these made if the creators are on board.

I wouldn't call it a rumor its just a matter of waiting until the group buy is finished.  :thumb:

EDIT: ninja'd by JD  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 19 February 2014, 12:33:34
Sorry if this is repetitive, but I can't seem to find the info anywhere. The thread is long, and I can't tell if there have been major updates that negate the info in older posts.
Is this GB still open for new orders? If I'd like to order a GH60, should I use the form in the OP? Another form? If not, will they be readily available somewhere else? I saw someone mention mechanicalkeyboards...

For anyone else who can't find this information in this thread, I've placed some info in Simple Question Simple Answers here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1227564#msg1227564) with a link at the top of the OP.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: TDub on Thu, 20 February 2014, 15:21:30
Would now be a good time to update my shipping address?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 20 February 2014, 22:37:12
Yo! I'm working on getting a sample plate to JD. Hopefully everything will be to spec regarding cut and finish.
If Captain JD approves, I'm told we can have everything cut in two weeks. Now all those things still need to be
shipped and all that. Anywho! We're getting closer

So keep your pants on... for now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 20 February 2014, 23:42:13
Yo! I'm working on getting a sample plate to JD. Hopefully everything will be to spec regarding cut and finish.
If Captain JD approves, I'm told we can have everything cut in two weeks. Now all those things still need to be
shipped and all that. Anywho! We're getting closer

So keep your pants on... for now.

Pants have officially been removed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: kinruan on Fri, 21 February 2014, 02:10:04
really want my switches at this moment, is it possible to ship my switches first?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 21 February 2014, 02:19:11
Yo! I'm working on getting a sample plate to JD. Hopefully everything will be to spec regarding cut and finish.
If Captain JD approves, I'm told we can have everything cut in two weeks. Now all those things still need to be
shipped and all that. Anywho! We're getting closer

So keep your pants on... for now.

Super exciting! Well done for stepping up on this!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 21 February 2014, 05:34:33
I took my pants off. Can't tell me what to do! Except wait I guess :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 21 February 2014, 08:38:28
I took my pants off. Can't tell me what to do! Except wait I guess :p

Way to fight the system brah.  The joke's on them! :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tlt on Mon, 24 February 2014, 10:02:34
I have moved and I can't remember if I give you an address when I ordered. Do I need to update my address with someone?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 24 February 2014, 12:26:44
Afaik they'll reask the adresses before the actual delivery
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 27 February 2014, 22:24:36
I have not been following this giant thread. Can someone tell me what the color of the PCB will be? Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 27 February 2014, 22:58:34
White
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 28 February 2014, 10:21:18
Sorry if this is repetitive, but I can't seem to find the info anywhere. The thread is long, and I can't tell if there have been major updates that negate the info in older posts.
Is this GB still open for new orders? If I'd like to order a GH60, should I use the form in the OP? Another form? If not, will they be readily available somewhere else? I saw someone mention mechanicalkeyboards...

For anyone else who can't find this information in this thread, I've placed some info in Simple Question Simple Answers here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1227564#msg1227564) with a link at the top of the OP.

Thanks for this info...I will be stalking this thread and MechanicalKeyboards.com.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: precarious on Sat, 01 March 2014, 20:25:47
it's been so long since i've been in the keyboard game i'm not even sure what i'm going to do with this thing when i get it, haha.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 March 2014, 20:32:31
it's been so long since i've been in the keyboard game i'm not even sure what i'm going to do with this thing when i get it, haha.

wall art?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 01 March 2014, 22:00:52
it's been so long since i've been in the keyboard game i'm not even sure what i'm going to do with this thing when i get it, haha.

wall art?
I got an extra to shadow box, no doubt!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tricheboars on Mon, 03 March 2014, 01:32:06
so what is the verdict on the plate jd? do we have the switches? stabs? oh man. i am pumped.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 03 March 2014, 06:55:43

so what is the verdict on the plate jd? do we have the switches? stabs? oh man. i am pumped.

I'm still waiting on the sample plate to arrive. I believe there is some lead time involved in having it made.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 03 March 2014, 09:29:33

so what is the verdict on the plate jd? do we have the switches? stabs? oh man. i am pumped.

I'm still waiting on the sample plate to arrive. I believe there is some lead time involved in having it made.
I gave the word on getting the plate made. I was told 2 weeks lead time, but I'm sure that is to cover
the company if anything goes wrong on their end. As soon as I get the plate in hand it will be shipped to JD
for testing and inspection. If everything checks out, the lead time on finishing all 518 plates is two weeks.

TLDR about a month on plates!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Broadmonkey on Mon, 03 March 2014, 12:28:48
I don't think it can be done much faster than that. Will you post a picture of the sample here before shipping it to JDcarpe?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 03 March 2014, 14:46:50
I don't think it can be done much faster than that. Will you post a picture of the sample here before shipping it to JDcarpe?
I post all the potatoes you can stomach!  ^-^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 07 March 2014, 13:15:28
Great news!!! The sample plate is done, but I won't be able to pick it up till Tuesday... :/
You can all thank my job for that!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 07 March 2014, 13:16:30
This is the first time I have actually looked at the pic in the OP and that is one sexy board.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 07 March 2014, 13:25:10
There's an OP ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 07 March 2014, 13:25:58
This is the first time I have actually looked at the pic in the OP and that is one sexy board.

You know the production PCB is white instead of black.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 07 March 2014, 13:28:18
much less sexy I like the black
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: PandaSPUR on Fri, 07 March 2014, 14:09:37
it's been so long since i've been in the keyboard game i'm not even sure what i'm going to do with this thing when i get it, haha.

I'll take your place if you dont want it anymore ;p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:37:30
Alright dudes! This is the sample plate with the 1800 plate from Beast and a phantom plate (beast had those made as well?).

Tell us what you think.

Left: Phantom
Top right: GH60
Bottom right: 1800
(http://i.imgur.com/dNTHjRN.jpg)
Left: GH60
Top right: 1800
Bottom right: Phantom
(http://i.imgur.com/YVL1mGx.jpg)
Back of plates. The GH plate has no burs to clean off!  :thumb:
Top right: GH60
(http://i.imgur.com/kzbjaXt.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:44:57
Show Image
Show Image
Alright dudes! This is the sample plate with the 1800 plate from Beast and a phantom plate (beast had those made as well?).

Tell us what you think.

Left: Phantom
Top right: GH60
Bottom right: 1800
(http://i.imgur.com/dNTHjRN.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/dNTHjRN.jpg)

Left: GH60
Top right: 1800
Bottom right: Phantom
(http://i.imgur.com/YVL1mGx.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/YVL1mGx.jpg)

Back of plates. The GH plate has no burs to clean off!  :thumb:
Top right: GH60
(http://i.imgur.com/kzbjaXt.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/kzbjaXt.jpg)

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: regack on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:55:14
Ok, so the holes are cut larger so you can open the top of the switch without desoldering... but then it's just the corner bits that are keeping them squared in there?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:57:27
Ok, so the holes are cut larger so you can open the top of the switch without desoldering... but then it's just the corner bits that are keeping them squared in there?

Nope, both horizontal lines keep the switch in the plate. The extended cutouts are only to the left and right side.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 11 March 2014, 14:00:17
Looks great from the pics!

That Phantom plate was made by WFD for the last GB. The radii on the corners looks to be slightly tighter than the new GH60, but that's not a big issue. It still looks to be well within tolerances for MX switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 11 March 2014, 14:17:57
Hooray!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 11 March 2014, 15:04:46
Hooray!!!!!!!!!!

You rock ApocalypseMaow. Thank you for taking the lead on this.

Makes me wish I had ordered more plates.  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 11 March 2014, 16:09:58
pretty good stuff
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Muffet on Tue, 11 March 2014, 16:33:38
Woo exciting day! Plate pictures and I machined out the majority of my aluminum case. good things are happening. :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 11 March 2014, 16:38:55
Woo exciting day! Plate pictures and I machined out the majority of my aluminum case. good things are happening. :thumb:

Pics or it didn't happen. ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 11 March 2014, 17:46:08
Woo exciting day! Plate pictures and I machined out the majority of my aluminum case. good things are happening. :thumb:

Pics or it didn't happen. ;)
Yeah, I'm gonna need some pictures of that...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: JayKthnx on Tue, 11 March 2014, 20:19:25
the plate looks fantastic!

on a side note, can anyone give me a bill of materials for the smd's? looking into populating one of the blank pcb's I'm receiving to sell to someone else and need to figure out cost of all the diodes, controller, etc. if you don't want to post it here, a pm is perfectly acceptable. thanks in advance!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Oldman1291 on Tue, 11 March 2014, 21:47:01
Excuse me, sir.
I want to ask if there are any chances to get a GH60 which including: PCB, Plate, Clear switches, Cherry stabilizers at the moment. I know the GB ended, but I've just found my interesting in GH60 keyboards for a few weeks.
Thank you for reading!
Best regards!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 11 March 2014, 21:57:41
I want to ask if there are any chances to get a GH60 which including: PCB, Plate, Clear switches, Cherry stabilizers at the moment. I know the GB ended, but I've just found my interesting in GH60 keyboards for a few weeks.

No, however there will be people selling some after the PCBs and the other stuff have been shipped to people (this will still take a while). Another option you have is Sprit's group buy which also has a nice PCB and still takes orders afaik.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: thegagne on Tue, 11 March 2014, 22:23:53
Alright dudes! This is the sample plate with the 1800 plate from Beast and a phantom plate (beast had those made as well?).

Tell us what you think.

Left: Phantom
Top right: GH60
Bottom right: 1800
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dNTHjRN.jpg)

Left: GH60
Top right: 1800
Bottom right: Phantom
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YVL1mGx.jpg)

Back of plates. The GH plate has no burs to clean off!  :thumb:
Top right: GH60
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kzbjaXt.jpg)


Makes me wish I'd ordered a plate instead of going PCB mount.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 12 March 2014, 07:28:30
Alright dudes! This is the sample plate with the 1800 plate from Beast and a phantom plate (beast had those made as well?).

Tell us what you think.

Left: Phantom
Top right: GH60
Bottom right: 1800
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dNTHjRN.jpg)

Left: GH60
Top right: 1800
Bottom right: Phantom
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YVL1mGx.jpg)

Back of plates. The GH plate has no burs to clean off!  :thumb:
Top right: GH60
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kzbjaXt.jpg)

Beauuuuuuutiful!
Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: sprit on Wed, 12 March 2014, 07:44:10


I have to confess I have been a fan of this Project.   ;)    Cheers!!! 




Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Wed, 12 March 2014, 07:47:56
I have to confess I have been a fan of this Project.   ;)    Cheers!!!

Should be no problem once the project will be over, many people bought more than they need and AFAIK they'll see them on one of the keyboard store sites, mechanicalkeyboards I think
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Muffet on Wed, 12 March 2014, 11:43:04
Pics or it didn't happen. ;)

Just for you. ;)

picture taken with an actual potato. :thumb:
[attach=1]

Remaning operations: mill edges to final thickness. mill USB slot. mill bevel on bottom. tap standoff holes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 12 March 2014, 11:47:38
Just for you. ;)

picture taken with an actual potato. :thumb:
(Attachment Link)

Remaning operations: mill edges to final thickness. mill USB slot. mill bevel on bottom. tap standoff holes.

Looking good! What's the current weight of it? Will you get it anodized?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Muffet on Wed, 12 March 2014, 12:07:31
Looking good! What's the current weight of it? Will you get it anodized?

Not sure the weight on it right now, but it will of course be lighter anyways when it is finished.

For now I think will sandblast it. i would love to anodize it, but my budget for this project has been emptied long ago.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Thu, 13 March 2014, 06:35:54
Sorry...
I have tried to find info of the PCB in production  but as the thread is too long i can't really get the answer for my question

Is the PCB in production a rev. c board with full led support which does not require external wiring?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 07:24:29
Is the PCB in production a rev. c board with full led support which does not require external wiring?

Yes, it requires a separate module though which is not made yet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GhostofHarry on Thu, 13 March 2014, 07:38:35
Is the PCB in production a rev. c board with full led support which does not require external wiring?

Yes, it requires a separate module though which is not made yet.

Thx for your reply! :D

So when I have received the pcb, without any other modules, I can only have my led at the 11 spots turned on?
(esc, caps, wasd and poker arrow)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 07:58:25
So when I have received the pcb, without any other modules, I can only have my led at the 11 spots turned on?
(esc, caps, wasd and poker arrow)

Yes. The module will be directly attached to the PCB btw.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 13 March 2014, 07:58:27
Is the PCB in production a rev. c board with full led support which does not require external wiring?

Yes, it requires a separate module though which is not made yet.

Thx for your reply! :D

So when I have received the pcb, without any other modules, I can only have my led at the 11 spots turned on?
(esc, caps, wasd and poker arrow)
Anything you want to know is here! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.0)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 13 March 2014, 08:53:01
Anything you want to know is here! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.0)

I don't know if there's much info (if any at all since it's mostly about Rev A. as far as I can see) about the addon module though?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:03:04
I would classify the LED backlighting add-on module as Vaporware™ at the moment. I don't think komar has had time to work on its design just yet. :)

But to answer the question, yes, only those 11 LEDs will function with a "stock" GH60 PCB (final revision).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 13 March 2014, 15:50:00
Anything you want to know is here! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37570.0)

I don't know if there's much info (if any at all since it's mostly about Rev A. as far as I can see) about the addon module though?
oops...  :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: JayKthnx on Thu, 13 March 2014, 22:05:05
on a side note, can anyone give me a bill of materials for the smd's? if you don't want to post it here, a pm is perfectly acceptable. thanks in advance!

Can anyone help me out with this?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 13 March 2014, 22:29:01
on a side note, can anyone give me a bill of materials for the smd's? if you don't want to post it here, a pm is perfectly acceptable. thanks in advance!

Can anyone help me out with this?


There is a bom here but not sure which revision it's for

 https://github.com/komar007/ghkb
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: JayKthnx on Fri, 14 March 2014, 02:36:47
Should be accurate enough for a rough estimate on costs. Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dsan on Mon, 17 March 2014, 07:16:58
Giving the fact that the pcb fits every poker case it should also work with the universal plate and a duck v2 case right? :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 17 March 2014, 07:47:36
Giving the fact that the pcb fits every poker case it should also work with the universal plate and a duck v2 case right? :D

From the Duck Mini V2 group buy thread:

Quote
Now, you may use Poker 1 PCB, and if the shape of Poker 2 PCB is the same as Poker 1, you may use Poker 2 PCB too. However, since the dip switch hall is not through out the case, you need to detach PCB from the case to adjust dip switch mode.

(link) (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46060.0)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: agodinhost on Mon, 17 March 2014, 09:42:50
But to answer the question, yes, only those 11 LEDs will function with a "stock" GH60 PCB (final revision).
More than enough, IMHO.
ty JD
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Muffet on Wed, 19 March 2014, 11:11:23
I posted some finished pictures of my case over here
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56071.new#new (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56071.new#new)

and one teaser
(http://i.imgur.com/RyaLhPb.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 19 March 2014, 11:39:25
Looks good, I hope it'll fit;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Muffet on Wed, 19 March 2014, 13:48:33
Looks good, I hope it'll fit;)

Me too! Luckily I still have the ability to make adjustments if need be. I would just have to refinish it, as clamping would scratch the sandblasted finish.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 19 March 2014, 21:36:20
Geez!!! I like it!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tbc on Thu, 20 March 2014, 00:38:09
oh wow.  that things looks awesomely hefty.  let us know the weight when you have time please
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 01:48:16
Update:
There seems to be no delay in production, the ETA is still the 28th of March.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 20 March 2014, 03:17:09
Update:
There seems to be no delay in production, the ETA is still the 28th of March.
Cheese and crackers!!!

They've ordered the stainless (they needed a lot more to fill are order) and they said no more then two weeks to finish... so
(http://media0.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 20 March 2014, 06:29:06
everybody share the excitement!

(http://i.imgur.com/juM1Soy.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 06:53:24
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: KyesaRRi on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:43:40
everybody share the excitement!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/juM1Soy.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/sojZX9T.gif) (http://imgur.com/sojZX9T)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: abtrout on Thu, 20 March 2014, 08:22:29
lol that wrestler is so excited
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: okwchin on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:20:20
Wow, guess who's late to the boat!

This thing looks awesome!

I think it would be safe to assume its too late for me to get into this GB… :))

Would my next best bet be to pick up something on the classifieds after its all done and dusted? or anyone who has already changed their minds?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:24:18
Would my next best bet be to pick up something on the classifieds after its all done and dusted? or anyone who has already changed their minds?

Some people already have sold their orders, but yes, generally keep your eyes on the classifieds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:31:17
BlueBar is right. Give it about a month and you should start seeing them pop up on the classifieds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:35:41
Would my next best bet be to pick up something on the classifieds after its all done and dusted? or anyone who has already changed their minds?

Some people already have sold their orders, but yes, generally keep your eyes on the classifieds.

Also, there are rumors mechanicalkeyboards.com MIGHT eventually have them - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1227564#msg1227564
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 20 March 2014, 09:38:49
Also, there are rumors mechanicalkeyboards.com MIGHT eventually have them - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1227564#msg1227564

I think it has actually been confirmed somewhere in the thread.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tricheboars on Thu, 20 March 2014, 14:52:36
(http://shirletteammons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1284680742_5335-1.jpeg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: 1pq on Thu, 20 March 2014, 14:56:54
How long after they ship to GHers before they start popping up on mk.com?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: v4mp1 on Fri, 28 March 2014, 08:40:14
(http://i2.wp.com/sewbon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/carlton-dance-gif.gif?resize=320%2C239)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: sth on Fri, 28 March 2014, 09:54:57
Show Image
(http://i2.wp.com/sewbon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/carlton-dance-gif.gif?resize=320%2C239)

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1440634/fresh-prince-o.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: r3dx on Fri, 28 March 2014, 10:56:53
(http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/696889/dancingblue.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: v4mp1 on Fri, 28 March 2014, 18:09:55
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/20140328/5008560/mask-o.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 29 March 2014, 07:47:18
Plates will be aluminium, right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 29 March 2014, 08:13:56
From the first post.
Plate

Plates will make your keyboard will feel more solid overall and help disperse some of the typing stress. They’re optional, but most people do prefer it. Each layout will require a different plate. HHKB and winkeyless layouts can use any ANSI or ISO plate with 1.5x modifiers. I designed these so the top switch housing is removable without desoldering, which helps with swapping switches, springs, stems, lubing, or stickering later on. All the plates offered in here are stainless steel. They can be directly dropped in to existing cases. More details on this in the next post.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 29 March 2014, 08:20:03
From the first post.
Plate

Plates will make your keyboard will feel more solid overall and help disperse some of the typing stress. They’re optional, but most people do prefer it. Each layout will require a different plate. HHKB and winkeyless layouts can use any ANSI or ISO plate with 1.5x modifiers. I designed these so the top switch housing is removable without desoldering, which helps with swapping switches, springs, stems, lubing, or stickering later on. All the plates offered in here are stainless steel. They can be directly dropped in to existing cases. More details on this in the next post.


Of course WFD isn't getting the plates made anymore, not sure if that changes anything.

This is the guy getting plates and he said stainless :thumb: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg1265702#msg1265702
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 29 March 2014, 08:37:53
*Sigh*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 29 March 2014, 08:39:06
Woops, completely missed that information, thanks.

So no anodizing of that Poker plate I ordered^^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 29 March 2014, 08:41:30
*Sigh*
Deep breaths.
 *pats on the back
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Sat, 29 March 2014, 08:54:05
Is there a thread which outlines the current state of production, or is this it?

Something like:
Electrical Components: waiting to order / ordered / received
Switches: waiting to order / ordered / received
Stabilizers: waiting to order / ordered / received
Plates: waiting to order / ordered / received
PCBs: waiting to order / ordered / received
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 29 March 2014, 08:57:17
*Sigh*
Deep breaths.
 *pats on the back

Thanks, brother. I feel better ;).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 29 March 2014, 12:10:51
Is there a thread which outlines the current state of production, or is this it?

Something like:
Electrical Components: waiting to order / ordered / received
Switches: waiting to order / ordered / received
Stabilizers: waiting to order / ordered / received
Plates: waiting to order / ordered / received
PCBs: waiting to order / ordered / received


Nope - that would be this thread, all 3296 posts of it...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 29 March 2014, 13:01:30
Is there a thread which outlines the current state of production, or is this it?

Something like:
Electrical Components: waiting to order / ordered / received
Switches: waiting to order / ordered / received
Stabilizers: waiting to order / ordered / received
Plates: waiting to order / ordered / received
PCBs: waiting to order / ordered / received

Switches: received
Plates: ordered (I think? Prototype has been done, ApocalypseMeow probably knows more)
PCBs: ordered

Don't know about the rest.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 29 March 2014, 14:08:10
Okay guys, so a status update:
The PCBs have been produced and the US/Canada part is being shipped to tjcaustin. imsto's package is on its way too, directly from China.
The plates have been ordered, and they should take another week to finish production, according to ApocalypseMaow.

Since I'm responsible for everything that isn't USA or Canada, here's an extra status update for those people:
I thought I'd manage to ship the plateless orders before the ones with plates, but I won't. This has to do with our European taxes, and my beautiful country's taxes in particular. I will wait until the plates are ready to be shipped to me and then ask our PCB fab to send the boards, so that they come more or less at the same time. I won't go into details, but this is because I'd have to pay extra tax if my whole process takes too long.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: billnye on Sat, 29 March 2014, 14:11:42
Okay guys, so a status update:
The PCBs have been produced and the US/Canada part is being shipped to tjcaustin. imsto's package is on its way too, directly from China.
The plates have been ordered, and they should take another week to finish production, according to ApocalypseMaow.

Since I'm responsible for everything that isn't USA or Canada, here's an extra status update for those people:
I thought I'd manage to ship the plateless orders before the ones with plates, but I won't. This has to do with our European taxes, and my beautiful country's taxes in particular. I will wait until the plates are ready to be shipped to me and then ask our PCB fab to send the boards, so that they come more or less at the same time. I won't go into details, but this is because I'd have to pay extra tax if my whole process takes too long.

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/fckya.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Sat, 29 March 2014, 14:18:42
Thank you guys for the responses. This is exactly what I was looking for.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: MOZ on Sat, 29 March 2014, 15:08:06
Just curious, what are you getting from IMSTO? Stabs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 29 March 2014, 15:13:36
Just curious, what are you getting from IMSTO? Stabs?

I believe komar meant imsto's order of PCBs was going directly to imsto
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 29 March 2014, 16:30:39
Just curious, what are you getting from IMSTO? Stabs?

I believe komar meant imsto's order of PCBs was going directly to imsto

Yup. Because he's in China and his order was large.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: whiskytango on Sun, 30 March 2014, 08:16:25
If anyone still needs a case, pexon still has extra spots in his group buy for cheap aluminum cases due to canceled orders. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Sun, 30 March 2014, 08:22:49
Awesome.

Does this mean it's finally time for me to figure out what's up with switches? It's been a long time and i simply don't remember. I'm pretty sure i ordered switches prior to the issue stated in the OP (and idk if there's more recent information about that, buried somewhere in this thread), but i don't recall if i ever did anything with 7bit/deskthority's switch handling. From what i barely recall, there was at first no issue with the GH60 handlers handling the switches. Then, it was "optional" (aka: "we'll handle it if you don't"), but now (and for a while now), the OP's switch detail seems to suggest that anyone who hasn't converted their GH60 switch order to 7bit/deskthority's order form, may be left in limbo regarding switches. (which honestly won't hurt my feelings too much, since i ordered browns originally, but have since wished i'd gone with clears... but that was after the "no more order changes" directive, so i didn't worry about it)

And: is there a way to DIY LEDs for the whole board, prior to the addon module (which may or may not ever exist)? Should i go ahead and drop a full board worth of LEDs into the GH60, just in case that module happens? Or should i assume i'll have to desolder the whole thing anyway?

TL;DR:

Switches? LEDs?

If anyone still needs a case, pexon still has extra spots in his group buy for cheap aluminum cases due to canceled orders. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.0


lol... "AAAAND they're gone!" (jk, idk yet, but seems likely)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 30 March 2014, 08:38:26
And: is there a way to DIY LEDs for the whole board, prior to the addon module (which may or may not ever exist)? Should i go ahead and drop a full board worth of LEDs into the GH60, just in case that module happens? Or should i assume i'll have to desolder the whole thing anyway?

I'm pretty sure you can DIY something but I would wait for the module. You can add LEDs later without desoldering anything.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 08:54:06
Awesome.

Does this mean it's finally time for me to figure out what's up with switches? It's been a long time and i simply don't remember. I'm pretty sure i ordered switches prior to the issue stated in the OP (and idk if there's more recent information about that, buried somewhere in this thread), but i don't recall if i ever did anything with 7bit/deskthority's switch handling. From what i barely recall, there was at first no issue with the GH60 handlers handling the switches. Then, it was "optional" (aka: "we'll handle it if you don't"), but now (and for a while now), the OP's switch detail seems to suggest that anyone who hasn't converted their GH60 switch order to 7bit/deskthority's order form, may be left in limbo regarding switches. (which honestly won't hurt my feelings too much, since i ordered browns originally, but have since wished i'd gone with clears... but that was after the "no more order changes" directive, so i didn't worry about it)

And: is there a way to DIY LEDs for the whole board, prior to the addon module (which may or may not ever exist)? Should i go ahead and drop a full board worth of LEDs into the GH60, just in case that module happens? Or should i assume i'll have to desolder the whole thing anyway?

TL;DR:

Switches? LEDs?

If anyone still needs a case, pexon still has extra spots in his group buy for cheap aluminum cases due to canceled orders. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.0


lol... "AAAAND they're gone!" (jk, idk yet, but seems likely)

FYI, here's the list of people (DT usernames) who ordered switches from 7bit and had them shipped to us:
0190|Strelok
0208|bugsaint
0242|n0rvig
0247|HoffmanMyster
0248|numerus
0249|Affect656
0254|ramshao
0258|LechnerDE
0259|sriak
0260|gruener_Salat
0262|gomez18
0263|mark0331
0264|Viett
0265|Laladila
0267|gtarget
0269|LordBadger
0274|midg1t
0276|Niall
0281|snoozeymon
0282|mauri
0284|tradet
0286|bear95
0291|myndzi
0294|kdash4
0299|annerick
0304|PixelScript
0317|nebo
0337|nil
0352|Robstero
I already have those which will ship from Poland, jdcarpe should also have his part (or they'll get to him soon)

As for LED backlighting, you can solder all the LEDs according to the switch legend, this means anode on the left side and it should work after attaching the LED module. Just remember, if you have a plate, solder 5 standard 100mil 5-pin headers before you solder the switches and mount the plate, or you won't manage to solder the extension module later.
Oh, and BTW, the LED module is nearly finished.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Sun, 30 March 2014, 09:07:06
Thanks guys. So does this mean that both stated methods of acquiring switches have been successful, and i don't have to worry about it? That's what i think i'm seeing here, which would be great.

Also, someone recently hinted that the LED module might not happen, or might take what feels like a long time, which is why i was worried about it. I do indeed have a plate on order, and this is just the kind of thing i was hoping to read: "you can do it later without much hassle, if you prep for it in advance."

Good stuff. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: polarpigs on Sun, 30 March 2014, 13:41:20
Awesome.

Does this mean it's finally time for me to figure out what's up with switches? It's been a long time and i simply don't remember. I'm pretty sure i ordered switches prior to the issue stated in the OP (and idk if there's more recent information about that, buried somewhere in this thread), but i don't recall if i ever did anything with 7bit/deskthority's switch handling. From what i barely recall, there was at first no issue with the GH60 handlers handling the switches. Then, it was "optional" (aka: "we'll handle it if you don't"), but now (and for a while now), the OP's switch detail seems to suggest that anyone who hasn't converted their GH60 switch order to 7bit/deskthority's order form, may be left in limbo regarding switches. (which honestly won't hurt my feelings too much, since i ordered browns originally, but have since wished i'd gone with clears... but that was after the "no more order changes" directive, so i didn't worry about it)

And: is there a way to DIY LEDs for the whole board, prior to the addon module (which may or may not ever exist)? Should i go ahead and drop a full board worth of LEDs into the GH60, just in case that module happens? Or should i assume i'll have to desolder the whole thing anyway?

TL;DR:

Switches? LEDs?

If anyone still needs a case, pexon still has extra spots in his group buy for cheap aluminum cases due to canceled orders. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.0


lol... "AAAAND they're gone!" (jk, idk yet, but seems likely)

FYI, here's the list of people (DT usernames) who ordered switches from 7bit and had them shipped to us:
0190|Strelok
0208|bugsaint
0242|n0rvig
0247|HoffmanMyster
0248|numerus
0249|Affect656
0254|ramshao
0258|LechnerDE
0259|sriak
0260|gruener_Salat
0262|gomez18
0263|mark0331
0264|Viett
0265|Laladila
0267|gtarget
0269|LordBadger
0274|midg1t
0276|Niall
0281|snoozeymon
0282|mauri
0284|tradet
0286|bear95
0291|myndzi
0294|kdash4
0299|annerick
0304|PixelScript
0317|nebo
0337|nil
0352|Robstero
I already have those which will ship from Poland, jdcarpe should also have his part (or they'll get to him soon)

As for LED backlighting, you can solder all the LEDs according to the switch legend, this means anode on the left side and it should work after attaching the LED module. Just remember, if you have a plate, solder 5 standard 100mil 5-pin headers before you solder the switches and mount the plate, or you won't manage to solder the extension module later.
Oh, and BTW, the LED module is nearly finished.

Hey Komar,
Sorry I don't really remember what happened to the switches either and I dont see my username up there... I ordered enough Browns+2 extra with assembly. So what's happening?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 13:45:42
You ordered 63 browns from us. But we don't know where to ship your order, to HK or CA.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 30 March 2014, 16:33:56
Can you confirm this query regarding 10u spacebar and PCB mount stabs: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640.msg1277003#msg1277003
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: RickyJ on Sun, 30 March 2014, 18:22:55
I'm just now reading about the change in how switches are being handled.  I didn't know about this before, and have already paid in June 2013 for 130x Green PCB-mount switches.  Do I need to order from 7bit instead and get refunded from the GH60 amount I paid?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 19:56:19
I'm just now reading about the change in how switches are being handled.  I didn't know about this before, and have already paid in June 2013 for 130x Green PCB-mount switches.  Do I need to order from 7bit instead and get refunded from the GH60 amount I paid?

I'm confused, too.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 30 March 2014, 20:04:05
I'm really, really happy that I ordered 7x wires :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 30 March 2014, 20:12:30
I'm really, really happy that I ordered 7x wires :))

Me too.  I even ordered extras of stabilizers too, just in case I'd want them in the future.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 30 March 2014, 20:13:28
I'm really, really happy that I ordered 7x wires :))

Me too.  I even ordered extras of stabilizers too, just in case I'd want them in the future.  :)

I ordered plate mount stabs, so boohoo :/
I'm just really happy that I have those wires and extra plates and whatnot
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 30 March 2014, 20:17:00
Guys, don't worry about the switches. If you ordered and paid for switches, we have them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 30 March 2014, 20:40:34
I'm really, really happy that I ordered 7x wires :))

Me too.  I even ordered extras of stabilizers too, just in case I'd want them in the future.  :)

I ordered plate mount stabs, so boohoo :/
I'm just really happy that I have those wires and extra plates and whatnot

Plate mount hardware is harder to come by than PCB mount, in my experience - so good decision there.  If you ever need PCB mount hardware, let me know.  I have a ton of extras I'd be happy to send your way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 30 March 2014, 20:43:25
I'm really, really happy that I ordered 7x wires :))

Me too.  I even ordered extras of stabilizers too, just in case I'd want them in the future.  :)

I ordered plate mount stabs, so boohoo :/
I'm just really happy that I have those wires and extra plates and whatnot

Plate mount hardware is harder to come by than PCB mount, in my experience - so good decision there.  If you ever need PCB mount hardware, let me know.  I have a ton of extras I'd be happy to send your way.

But whiskeytango has plenty of plate stabs albeit used
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 30 March 2014, 20:48:11
Plate mount hardware is harder to come by than PCB mount, in my experience - so good decision there.  If you ever need PCB mount hardware, let me know.  I have a ton of extras I'd be happy to send your way.
A few months ago I realized that I ordered plate mount, so I went off and got plenty of pcb mount stabs for myself :))

I prefer the feel of pcb mount :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: RickyJ on Mon, 31 March 2014, 00:11:09
Guys, don't worry about the switches. If you ordered and paid for switches, we have them.

Great!  Thanks for putting my mind at ease! :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 00:35:12
Plate mount hardware is harder to come by than PCB mount, in my experience - so good decision there.  If you ever need PCB mount hardware, let me know.  I have a ton of extras I'd be happy to send your way.
A few months ago I realized that I ordered plate mount, so I went off and got plenty of pcb mount stabs for myself :))

I prefer the feel of pcb mount :p

I've been looking online.

I can't find stabs anywhere.

Where do you find them?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: n0rvig on Mon, 31 March 2014, 00:40:14
I'm really, really happy that I ordered 7x wires :))

Oh shoot! I should've done that. Damn.. :mad:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: sth on Mon, 31 March 2014, 01:27:47
sheeeooot looks like i should start looking at soldering irons
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 31 March 2014, 01:30:18
Plate mount hardware is harder to come by than PCB mount, in my experience - so good decision there.  If you ever need PCB mount hardware, let me know.  I have a ton of extras I'd be happy to send your way.
A few months ago I realized that I ordered plate mount, so I went off and got plenty of pcb mount stabs for myself :))

I prefer the feel of pcb mount :p

I've been looking online.

I can't find stabs anywhere.

Where do you find them?

imsto,gon
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 31 March 2014, 01:36:36
Plate mount hardware is harder to come by than PCB mount, in my experience - so good decision there.  If you ever need PCB mount hardware, let me know.  I have a ton of extras I'd be happy to send your way.
A few months ago I realized that I ordered plate mount, so I went off and got plenty of pcb mount stabs for myself :))

I prefer the feel of pcb mount :p

I've been looking online.

I can't find stabs anywhere.

Where do you find them?

imsto,gon

If you just want the hardware (and 2x wires), check out Mouser or other sources.  See here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_MM) for more information.  If you want wires, then Pacifist is right for buying pre-bent wires.  You can also get some wire of the correct thickness and bend your own if you're feeling ambitious.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 07:21:17
Plate mount hardware is harder to come by than PCB mount, in my experience - so good decision there.  If you ever need PCB mount hardware, let me know.  I have a ton of extras I'd be happy to send your way.
A few months ago I realized that I ordered plate mount, so I went off and got plenty of pcb mount stabs for myself :))

I prefer the feel of pcb mount :p

I've been looking online.

I can't find stabs anywhere.

Where do you find them?

imsto,gon

If you just want the hardware (and 2x wires), check out Mouser or other sources.  See here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_MM) for more information.  If you want wires, then Pacifist is right for buying pre-bent wires.  You can also get some wire of the correct thickness and bend your own if you're feeling ambitious.  :)

It looks like imsto has some of the stabilizers but it doesn't look like he has anything for 7x space bar stabilizers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pasph on Mon, 31 March 2014, 07:46:56
Plate mount hardware is harder to come by than PCB mount, in my experience - so good decision there.  If you ever need PCB mount hardware, let me know.  I have a ton of extras I'd be happy to send your way.
A few months ago I realized that I ordered plate mount, so I went off and got plenty of pcb mount stabs for myself :))

I prefer the feel of pcb mount :p

I've been looking online.

I can't find stabs anywhere.

Where do you find them?

imsto,gon

If you just want the hardware (and 2x wires), check out Mouser or other sources.  See here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_MM) for more information.  If you want wires, then Pacifist is right for buying pre-bent wires.  You can also get some wire of the correct thickness and bend your own if you're feeling ambitious.  :)

It looks like imsto has some of the stabilizers but it doesn't look like he has anything for 7x space bar stabilizers.

I've asked him and the kit he sells has both 6,25x and 7x Cherry PCB Mount stabilizers
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: gameaholic on Mon, 31 March 2014, 07:56:38
Just checking in.  I had my order set to ship to WFD for assembly but I haven't heard from him in a while.  Can I get it switched to be sent to me?  Also I have moved since this group buy started.  Who do I pm to send my new shipping address to?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 31 March 2014, 07:59:33
Can you confirm this query regarding 10u spacebar and PCB mount stabs: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640.msg1277003#msg1277003

Just asking again, seems like the post got lost in the sea of switch queries.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Mon, 31 March 2014, 08:30:17
Plate mount hardware is harder to come by than PCB mount, in my experience - so good decision there.  If you ever need PCB mount hardware, let me know.  I have a ton of extras I'd be happy to send your way.
A few months ago I realized that I ordered plate mount, so I went off and got plenty of pcb mount stabs for myself :))

I prefer the feel of pcb mount :p

I've been looking online.

I can't find stabs anywhere.

Where do you find them?

imsto,gon

In addition to these two, you could probably get them from Sprit as well. I got some from imsto and I have some coming from sprit as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 31 March 2014, 08:35:21
Can you confirm this query regarding 10u spacebar and PCB mount stabs: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640.msg1277003#msg1277003

Just asking again, seems like the post got lost in the sea of switch queries.

Right, 10-unit spacebar stabilizer is only supported using plate mount stabs.



Just checking in.  I had my order set to ship to WFD for assembly but I haven't heard from him in a while.  Can I get it switched to be sent to me?  Also I have moved since this group buy started.  Who do I pm to send my new shipping address to?

Yes, just PM me with your shipping address. I don't think WFD will be around to do any assemblies.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 31 March 2014, 08:37:41
Okay guys, so a status update:
The PCBs have been produced and the US/Canada part is being shipped to tjcaustin. imsto's package is on its way too, directly from China.
The plates have been ordered, and they should take another week to finish production, according to ApocalypseMaow.

Since I'm responsible for everything that isn't USA or Canada, here's an extra status update for those people:
I thought I'd manage to ship the plateless orders before the ones with plates, but I won't. This has to do with our European taxes, and my beautiful country's taxes in particular. I will wait until the plates are ready to be shipped to me and then ask our PCB fab to send the boards, so that they come more or less at the same time. I won't go into details, but this is because I'd have to pay extra tax if my whole process takes too long.

Thanks for the updates komar!

Is there a thread which outlines the current state of production, or is this it?

Something like:
Electrical Components: waiting to order / ordered / received
Switches: waiting to order / ordered / received
Stabilizers: waiting to order / ordered / received
Plates: waiting to order / ordered / received
PCBs: waiting to order / ordered / received

I've been pulling the relevant posts when I see updates in this thread and putting them into the Simple Questions thread. Link is at the end of this post. However, I'm not directly associated in this buy so I can't say when things are received or answer anything detailed. Just posting what I see and think is relevant.

As for LED backlighting, you can solder all the LEDs according to the switch legend, this means anode on the left side and it should work after attaching the LED module. Just remember, if you have a plate, solder 5 standard 100mil 5-pin headers before you solder the switches and mount the plate, or you won't manage to solder the extension module later.

Oh, and BTW, the LED module is nearly finished.

Sweet!

Guys, don't worry about the switches. If you ordered and paid for switches, we have them.

Good to know.



I'm adding all these updates to this post in Simple Questions (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1227564#msg1227564).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 09:08:40
Plate mount hardware is harder to come by than PCB mount, in my experience - so good decision there.  If you ever need PCB mount hardware, let me know.  I have a ton of extras I'd be happy to send your way.
A few months ago I realized that I ordered plate mount, so I went off and got plenty of pcb mount stabs for myself :))

I prefer the feel of pcb mount :p

I've been looking online.

I can't find stabs anywhere.

Where do you find them?

imsto,gon

If you just want the hardware (and 2x wires), check out Mouser or other sources.  See here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0#post_MM) for more information.  If you want wires, then Pacifist is right for buying pre-bent wires.  You can also get some wire of the correct thickness and bend your own if you're feeling ambitious.  :)

It looks like imsto has some of the stabilizers but it doesn't look like he has anything for 7x space bar stabilizers.

I've asked him and the kit he sells has both 6,25x and 7x Cherry PCB Mount stabilizers

Do pcb mount stabilizers still work with a plate installed?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 09:09:37
Plate mount hardware is harder to come by than PCB mount, in my experience - so good decision there.  If you ever need PCB mount hardware, let me know.  I have a ton of extras I'd be happy to send your way.
A few months ago I realized that I ordered plate mount, so I went off and got plenty of pcb mount stabs for myself :))

I prefer the feel of pcb mount :p

I've been looking online.

I can't find stabs anywhere.

Where do you find them?

imsto,gon

In addition to these two, you could probably get them from Sprit as well. I got some from imsto and I have some coming from sprit as well.

It looks like Sprit ran out based on his order form info.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Mon, 31 March 2014, 09:11:54
So, I was looking over the confirmation spreadsheet, and noticed that the second order that I picked up is not listed under my name.  Is this information located somewhere else?  I had picked up an unpaid order.  I believe I should have two orders under my name now.

Thanks,

-Tad
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 31 March 2014, 10:48:39
So, I was looking over the confirmation spreadsheet, and noticed that the second order that I picked up is not listed under my name.  Is this information located somewhere else?  I had picked up an unpaid order.  I believe I should have two orders under my name now.

Thanks,

-Tad

Maybe the public spreadsheet isn't updated with your info. Please PM me the pertinent details. Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Mon, 31 March 2014, 11:13:24
PM sent.  Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 31 March 2014, 11:17:21
Thanks fro clearing the 10u spacebar doubt.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: polarpigs on Mon, 31 March 2014, 14:39:24
As for LED backlighting, you can solder all the LEDs according to the switch legend, this means anode on the left side and it should work after attaching the LED module. Just remember, if you have a plate, solder 5 standard 100mil 5-pin headers before you solder the switches and mount the plate, or you won't manage to solder the extension module later.

Oh, and BTW, the LED module is nearly finished.

Will this part be done for us if we ordered the plate + assembly service, or will we have to source and solder our own 100mil 5-pin header thingies (obviously i don't know what this is LOL) ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 31 March 2014, 15:22:56
It's not done by default, especially because this wouldn't fit acrylic cases.
I think you need to talk to tjcaustin, I think he is going to assemble your order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: agor on Tue, 01 April 2014, 14:26:04
Would it fit the Pexon-Aluminum-Case? Low-profile Poker-Compatible.
Pictures here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 01 April 2014, 15:19:09
It looks similar to the regular Poker case, in this case it should fit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 01 April 2014, 15:21:41
Would it fit the Pexon-Aluminum-Case? Low-profile Poker-Compatible.
Pictures here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47776.0

It looks similar to the regular Poker case, in this case it should fit.

Yeah you're right komar. It'll definitely fit. :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 01 April 2014, 15:25:15
edit....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 01 April 2014, 20:06:00
I have 3/5 GH60 orders left.  Anyone want to takeover at GB price?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 01 April 2014, 20:18:21
I have 3/5 GH60 orders left.  Anyone want to takeover at GB price?

I can take one of those orders over. I'd take over more if it weren't for having a sprit on the way and Alps boards supposedly in the works.  I have some MX compatible PCB mount Alps style switches that should be coming my way.  It will be the supreme bastard board.

If anyone is wary of putting one together, but wants one, I can assemble it (sans SMD stuff) for free for you, just provide the switches.  I'll even lube with krytox for a small fee for my time if you'd like.  I usually lube while watching Prime video or Netflix since I can't sit still and watch TV or a movie.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 01 April 2014, 20:20:23
I have 3/5 GH60 orders left.  Anyone want to takeover at GB price?

if smd'd, yes!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 01 April 2014, 20:23:59
The 3 left are presoldered. I'm not sure if I have to get it first since they're not changing orders anymore?

I'll need an address change as well, jdcarpe :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Tue, 01 April 2014, 20:48:30
I have 3/5 GH60 orders left.  Anyone want to takeover at GB price?

I can't remember. Am I getting a diy or presoldered one from you?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 01 April 2014, 20:51:14
DIY
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Tue, 01 April 2014, 20:52:14
DIY

Ty. :). Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: FreeCopy on Tue, 01 April 2014, 21:49:40
I have 3/5 GH60 orders left.  Anyone want to takeover at GB price?

I'll take one if you still have one left.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: okwchin on Tue, 01 April 2014, 23:47:24
Will be Over the moon to take one of these if still available  :thumb:

I have 3/5 GH60 orders left.  Anyone want to takeover at GB price?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 01 April 2014, 23:48:49
The 3 left are presoldered. I'm not sure if I have to get it first since they're not changing orders anymore?

I'll need an address change as well, jdcarpe :)

cool, I'll bite. You're going to get it first then ship it to us, jdcarpe had a big rant about that earlier
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: okwchin on Tue, 01 April 2014, 23:51:10
Double Post  :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 02 April 2014, 00:32:01
If I have to receive it first, then I'll sell it when I get it.  I'll reserve them for now..

I have these left
1.5 ANSI pure shift plate   pcb stab 7x   gh60 pcb presoldered  62 green mx sw
1.5 ISO pure shift plate   pcb stab 7x   gh60 pcb presoldered   63 green mx sw

Selling these as a set..now first come first serve..PM me
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: okwchin on Wed, 02 April 2014, 02:20:34
Shall keep an eye out then :)

Still looking for information regarding what key codes this keyboard is able to output? essentially I am looking for an Eject key for OSX. (which I understand is different from a windows one?)

Want to be able to put a mac to sleep/shutdown/display off with the keyboard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: okwchin on Wed, 02 April 2014, 02:40:37
Shall keep an eye out then :)

Still looking for information regarding what keys this keyboard is able to output? essentially I am looking for an Eject key for OSX. (which I understand is different from a windows one?) Or do I miss the whole point and its all possible?

Want to be able to put a mac to sleep/shutdown/display off with the keyboard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: phatdood9 on Wed, 02 April 2014, 02:56:07
Shall keep an eye out then :)

Still looking for information regarding what keys this keyboard is able to output? essentially I am looking for an Eject key for OSX. (which I understand is different from a windows one?) Or do I miss the whole point and its all possible?

Want to be able to put a mac to sleep/shutdown/display off with the keyboard.


You can run this firmware

https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard

Keycodes

https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/doc/keycode.txt
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/common/keycode.h
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: kekstee on Wed, 02 April 2014, 04:50:38
It's not done by default, especially because this wouldn't fit acrylic cases.
Sounds like it will collide with about every aluminium case as well. Added depth below the the top row?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 02 April 2014, 05:06:48
It's not done by default, especially because this wouldn't fit acrylic cases.
Sounds like it will collide with about every aluminium case as well. Added depth below the the top row?

Its this about the add on cards?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 02 April 2014, 05:09:56
It's not done by default, especially because this wouldn't fit acrylic cases.
Sounds like it will collide with about every aluminium case as well. Added depth below the the top row?



The most protruding part of the module will be the header pins, which will stand 5.5mm out of the mainboard
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: netdevil on Wed, 02 April 2014, 21:53:21
First off , thank you for those that made this happen.

This has been such a long time since I made the order so forgive me if I miss anything out. I have ordered 70 x red switches initially and intend to do ergo clears. I already have the clear switches and intend to ship them to whoever the kind soul who is gonna assemble them for me. However I do not know how to identify that person. I hope to receive some guidance.

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 April 2014, 22:15:26

First off , thank you for those that made this happen.

This has been such a long time since I made the order so forgive me if I miss anything out. I have ordered 70 x red switches initially and intend to do ergo clears. I already have the clear switches and intend to ship them to whoever the kind soul who is gonna assemble them for me. However I do not know how to identify that person. I hope to receive some guidance.

Thanks!

You should contact tjcaustin about that. And please be aware that stem/spring swap is not included in the $25 assembly fee that people paid for with the GB orders.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: okwchin on Thu, 03 April 2014, 03:42:42



You can run this firmware

https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard

Keycodes

https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/doc/keycode.txt
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/common/keycode.h

Thanks!!

There is a Media Eject function. Not sure if this works in the same manner as the OSx one. Might have to ask about this in the questions thread.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: netdevil on Thu, 03 April 2014, 09:32:42

First off , thank you for those that made this happen.

This has been such a long time since I made the order so forgive me if I miss anything out. I have ordered 70 x red switches initially and intend to do ergo clears. I already have the clear switches and intend to ship them to whoever the kind soul who is gonna assemble them for me. However I do not know how to identify that person. I hope to receive some guidance.

Thanks!

You should contact tjcaustin about that. And please be aware that stem/spring swap is not included in the $25 assembly fee that people paid for with the GB orders.

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. It is most appreciated.  :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 03 April 2014, 09:43:14
Can't believe how excited I am about this, and I don't even have an order.  :eek: 

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: zachatttack on Thu, 03 April 2014, 23:35:04
Has they're only been one GB for the GH60? Also is there an eta on another?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: AKmalamute on Thu, 03 April 2014, 23:39:08
Has they're only been one GB for the GH60? Also is there an eta on another?
There has been only one.

Considering how much blood, sweat, and tears, not to mention time, has been expended on getting this ... what, seven months? completed, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Mechanical Keyboards will likely mass produce the board once folks start getting theirs assembled and pictures posted. Might be another six months, but aside from sales in the classifieds, I think that's going to be the fastest way to get one of these babies.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Luke on Fri, 04 April 2014, 05:36:28
Hi all, haven't been on GeekHack much of late because of being busy with life. Just checking around the Group Buy threads to see the status of what I have ordered, this seems to be the only one going in a positive direction :( So thanks to all those making it work :thumb:

I was just wondering if anybody is thinking of making a guide when the orders finally get shipped of how to solder these things together now. I'm not too bad at soldering its just that there seems to be some extra work around the soldering of the module (?) and the LED's (?) that needs to be done before the plate and switches can be put on. I would hate to have waited this long and then screw a board up when I receive them and I'm positive other people are feeling the same. It would be greatly appreciated! :D

Sorry if this has already been mentioned somewhere else but this thread is huge now  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IronJoeJac on Sat, 05 April 2014, 09:40:46
Are there any still available?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 05 April 2014, 09:47:29
Are there any still available?

They haven't shipped yet, but there should be some in the Classifieds once they do.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IronJoeJac on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:15:37
Are there any still available?

They haven't shipped yet, but there should be some in the Classifieds once they do.

Ok, do you know when they are shipping?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:23:09
Ok, do you know when they are shipping?

Soon™.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:33:45
Ok, do you know when they are shipping?

Soon™.


According to this post (from this thread):
Okay guys, so a status update:
The PCBs have been produced and the US/Canada part is being shipped to tjcaustin. imsto's package is on its way too, directly from China.
The plates have been ordered, and they should take another week to finish production, according to ApocalypseMaow.

Since I'm responsible for everything that isn't USA or Canada, here's an extra status update for those people:
I thought I'd manage to ship the plateless orders before the ones with plates, but I won't. This has to do with our European taxes, and my beautiful country's taxes in particular. I will wait until the plates are ready to be shipped to me and then ask our PCB fab to send the boards, so that they come more or less at the same time. I won't go into details, but this is because I'd have to pay extra tax if my whole process takes too long.


Soon indeed. Production "should" (according to the above estimate) be complete soon. Then after some handling time, they should be shipping.

My reasonably optimistic guess is "sometime this month," but it could totally be next month.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 05 April 2014, 10:33:51
When it's been 2 years since the GB started
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: JonasDK on Sat, 05 April 2014, 17:01:34
When it's been 2 years since the GB started

How can march 21st 2013 be 2 years?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Neal on Sat, 05 April 2014, 19:06:01
It was a response to 'Do you know when they are shipping? '
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 05 April 2014, 21:30:52
The plates will be done by the end of next week. Production is taking a bit longer than ACC thought. They apologized and hoped we're not missing any deadlines... lol
As soon as I have them counted and checked, I'll be driving them to TJ for building/packing/shipping.
Enjoy your transparency
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Sun, 06 April 2014, 03:03:19
W00t
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 06 April 2014, 03:06:07
So my Sprit and GH60 may arrive around the same time?  It will be nice to finally have my pantheon of 60% boards finished.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dr Xav on Sun, 06 April 2014, 08:40:43
Will there be any left overs after the GB? I really want one, but I got here WAY too late.

Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 06 April 2014, 08:41:52
Will there be any left overs after the GB? I really want one, but I got here WAY too late.

Thanks.
Keep your eye on the classifieds!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 06 April 2014, 09:25:48
Just so no one gets their hopes up prematurely, please realize that ordering stabilizers was one of the responsibilities we "inherited" from WFD. As far as I know, WFD never ordered the stabilizers, and doesn't have any currently. And we are having a slight problem in sourcing them, as everyone seems to be out of stock. If anyone has a source of available stabilizers, please let us know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 06 April 2014, 09:32:42
Just so no one gets their hopes up prematurely, please realize that ordering stabilizers was one of the responsibilities we "inherited" from WFD. As far as I know, WFD never ordered the stabilizers, and doesn't have any currently. And we are having a slight problem in sourcing them, as everyone seems to be out of stock. If anyone has a source of available stabilizers, please let us know.

Can't maybe 7bit get some? However I don't know how much the MOQ for stabs is.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 06 April 2014, 09:51:26
(http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/nooooo.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 06 April 2014, 11:11:37
Just so no one gets their hopes up prematurely, please realize that ordering stabilizers was one of the responsibilities we "inherited" from WFD. As far as I know, WFD never ordered the stabilizers, and doesn't have any currently. And we are having a slight problem in sourcing them, as everyone seems to be out of stock. If anyone has a source of available stabilizers, please let us know.

Mouser has Cherry PCB mount stabilizers and I've stumbled across some different ones on Taobao.
Title: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 06 April 2014, 11:23:48
Just so no one gets their hopes up prematurely, please realize that ordering stabilizers was one of the responsibilities we "inherited" from WFD. As far as I know, WFD never ordered the stabilizers, and doesn't have any currently. And we are having a slight problem in sourcing them, as everyone seems to be out of stock. If anyone has a source of available stabilizers, please let us know.

Mouser has Cherry PCB mount stabilizers and I've stumbled across some different ones on Taobao.

None with 7-unit spacebar wires in stock on Mouser. :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 06 April 2014, 11:49:38
Just so no one gets their hopes up prematurely, please realize that ordering stabilizers was one of the responsibilities we "inherited" from WFD. As far as I know, WFD never ordered the stabilizers, and doesn't have any currently. And we are having a slight problem in sourcing them, as everyone seems to be out of stock. If anyone has a source of available stabilizers, please let us know.

Mouser has Cherry PCB mount stabilizers and I've stumbled across some different ones on Taobao.

None with 7-unit spacebar wires in stock on Mouser. :(

I think I have a 7x wire at home (I have to double check).  It shouldn't be too hard to bend your own once you have a reference to work from.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 06 April 2014, 13:17:54
Screw Cherry stabs, need dem CoStar!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 06 April 2014, 13:27:26
Screw Cherry stabs, need dem CoStar!!!

Agreed, but they OOS everywhere I've seen.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 06 April 2014, 19:49:47
Screw Cherry stabs, need dem CoStar!!!

Agreed, but they OOS everywhere I've seen.
(http://static2.hypable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/crykuzco.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 07 April 2014, 12:20:41
It's not done by default, especially because this wouldn't fit acrylic cases.
Sounds like it will collide with about every aluminium case as well. Added depth below the the top row?



The most protruding part of the module will be the header pins, which will stand 5.5mm out of the mainboard

I can not wait to test this with my fmj case. I hope it fits :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: kekstee on Mon, 07 April 2014, 18:26:45
If stabs would be the last thing to hold this up at some point, I'd probably choose to get my order without them :o
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pexon on Mon, 07 April 2014, 18:39:01
If stabs would be the last thing to hold this up at some point, I'd probably choose to get my order without them :o

Snap  :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 08 April 2014, 01:51:49
I saw someone made a lego case for his board. Any lego hackers care to give a gh60-lego case a try?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 08 April 2014, 01:55:41
I saw someone made a lego case for his board. Any lego hackers care to give a gh60-lego case a try?

If it was one of the few Lego cases made for a poker, then it already fits the GH60.   :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 08 April 2014, 04:21:14
I saw someone made a lego case for his board. Any lego hackers care to give a gh60-lego case a try?

If it was one of the few Lego cases made for a poker, then it already fits the GH60.   :thumb:

Sounds good. I was thinking of trying to build one, instead of forking over nine thousand dollas for a fancy case. I wonder if I could find some sort of schematic...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 08 April 2014, 04:26:37
Sounds good. I was thinking of trying to build one, instead of forking over nine thousand dollas for a fancy case. I wonder if I could find some sort of schematic...

I'm pretty sure I saw a picture of one in that Lego Designer thing, but I couldn't find it. However Halverson has a part list for his case here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 08 April 2014, 04:33:03
i can gets 6hg0 pls?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: codyeatworld on Tue, 08 April 2014, 06:00:24
Just so no one gets their hopes up prematurely, please realize that ordering stabilizers was one of the responsibilities we "inherited" from WFD. As far as I know, WFD never ordered the stabilizers, and doesn't have any currently. And we are having a slight problem in sourcing them, as everyone seems to be out of stock. If anyone has a source of available stabilizers, please let us know.

GON told me he thinks he can supply the cherry stabs sets, but not the costar.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pexon on Tue, 08 April 2014, 06:16:59
i can gets 6hg0 pls?

(http://i.imgur.com/TaTdV.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Whitecitadel on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:03:26
Bit late to this party, but can I check is the PCB $40 as per order form, or $28 as per first post? Thanks...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:05:04
Bit late to this party, but can I check is the PCB $40 as per order form, or $28 as per first post? Thanks...

can't get them now, $40 or $28
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Whitecitadel on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:07:17
Yeah I mixed my GB threads, thought this was the one where they had open orders due to cancellations :-$

Looks like an epic journey for those involved mind you!  :eek: :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:35:31
my gh60s are going to be gifted to my siblings now.  unfortunately i think my 60% phase has passed.  this is no one's fault but my own.  i should have stopped buying keyboards a year or so ago and just waited for these to arrive.  oh well.  massdrop is also partly to blame for this as well.

honestly i want to solder these guys up more than i want to use them. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 08 April 2014, 12:43:10
Sounds good. I was thinking of trying to build one, instead of forking over nine thousand dollas for a fancy case. I wonder if I could find some sort of schematic...

I'm pretty sure I saw a picture of one in that Lego Designer thing, but I couldn't find it. However Halverson has a part list for his case here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.0

My design was based off the designs by domoaligato (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg928747#msg928747), which were based off a design by fydo (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg802375#msg802375), which were based off a build by Halverson (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg797333#msg797333).

You can see my post with pictures here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.msg1240400#msg1240400), and my Lego Designer files here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ygi6w86emvw4si/PokerCase-v3.lxf) and exported parts list here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yaa4oy44m3os5gx/PokerCase-v3.xlsx).

I prefer the stepped sides of mine over the steep angled sides of the designs I modified.  That's the main difference between the two, so seek out the one you want and go from there!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 08 April 2014, 12:49:57
Sounds good. I was thinking of trying to build one, instead of forking over nine thousand dollas for a fancy case. I wonder if I could find some sort of schematic...

I'm pretty sure I saw a picture of one in that Lego Designer thing, but I couldn't find it. However Halverson has a part list for his case here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.0

My design was based off the designs by domoaligato (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg928747#msg928747), which were based off a design by fydo (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg802375#msg802375), which were based off a build by Halverson (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg797333#msg797333).

You can see my post with pictures here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.msg1240400#msg1240400), and my Lego Designer files here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ygi6w86emvw4si/PokerCase-v3.lxf) and exported parts list here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yaa4oy44m3os5gx/PokerCase-v3.xlsx).

I prefer the stepped sides of mine over the steep angled sides of the designs I modified.  That's the main difference between the two, so seek out the one you want and go from there!

This is indeed the case I saw on reddit and that made me fall in love with the concept. I shall build myself the nerdiest case ever!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 09 April 2014, 10:23:46
Sounds good. I was thinking of trying to build one, instead of forking over nine thousand dollas for a fancy case. I wonder if I could find some sort of schematic...

I'm pretty sure I saw a picture of one in that Lego Designer thing, but I couldn't find it. However Halverson has a part list for his case here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.0

My design was based off the designs by domoaligato (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg928747#msg928747), which were based off a design by fydo (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg802375#msg802375), which were based off a build by Halverson (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg797333#msg797333).

You can see my post with pictures here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.msg1240400#msg1240400), and my Lego Designer files here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ygi6w86emvw4si/PokerCase-v3.lxf) and exported parts list here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yaa4oy44m3os5gx/PokerCase-v3.xlsx).

I prefer the stepped sides of mine over the steep angled sides of the designs I modified.  That's the main difference between the two, so seek out the one you want and go from there!

dude! that is way cooler then the one I have. did you actually mount standoffs in yours?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 09 April 2014, 14:17:49
Sounds good. I was thinking of trying to build one, instead of forking over nine thousand dollas for a fancy case. I wonder if I could find some sort of schematic...

I'm pretty sure I saw a picture of one in that Lego Designer thing, but I couldn't find it. However Halverson has a part list for his case here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.0

My design was based off the designs by domoaligato (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg928747#msg928747), which were based off a design by fydo (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg802375#msg802375), which were based off a build by Halverson (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg797333#msg797333).

You can see my post with pictures here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.msg1240400#msg1240400), and my Lego Designer files here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ygi6w86emvw4si/PokerCase-v3.lxf) and exported parts list here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yaa4oy44m3os5gx/PokerCase-v3.xlsx).

I prefer the stepped sides of mine over the steep angled sides of the designs I modified.  That's the main difference between the two, so seek out the one you want and go from there!

dude! that is way cooler then the one I have. did you actually mount standoffs in yours?

Not yet, but I definitely should!  I'm not sure the best way to do that though, be it hot glue or something else.  And thanks!  :)  It was largely thanks to you and the others that I even made it though, so thanks for that work.   :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Thechemist on Wed, 09 April 2014, 14:18:56
use some JB Weld.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: fydo on Wed, 09 April 2014, 17:02:03
My design was based off the designs by domoaligato (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg928747#msg928747), which were based off a design by fydo (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg802375#msg802375), which were based off a build by Halverson (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40251.msg797333#msg797333).

You can see my post with pictures here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.msg1240400#msg1240400), and my Lego Designer files here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ygi6w86emvw4si/PokerCase-v3.lxf) and exported parts list here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yaa4oy44m3os5gx/PokerCase-v3.xlsx).

I prefer the stepped sides of mine over the steep angled sides of the designs I modified.  That's the main difference between the two, so seek out the one you want and go from there!

Wow, that looks great!
Excellent job, and I'm glad people are getting use out of the LDD design that I put up. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 09 April 2014, 20:53:35
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7445/11138085706_93116dd7a4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/hYeAQs)
gh60 come 2 me
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 09 April 2014, 20:55:37
For some it's already here....

(http://i.imgur.com/SJ3v4Jt.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 09 April 2014, 21:04:44
For some it's already here....

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SJ3v4Jt.jpg)


 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 09 April 2014, 21:08:25
For some it's already here....

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SJ3v4Jt.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/ghb1NE8.jpg)

I mean I got sent my revB ages ago, but I want MY FINAL revC  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 09 April 2014, 21:11:02
For some it's already here....

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SJ3v4Jt.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ghb1NE8.jpg)


I mean I got sent my revB ages ago, but I want MY FINAL revC  ;D

That's Rev A son, Rev B is chilling somewhere else....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 09 April 2014, 21:11:56
That's Rev A son, Rev B is chilling somewhere else....

I know you've got your Rev A, but I've got only Rev B :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 09 April 2014, 21:12:33
That's Rev A son, Rev B is chilling somewhere else....

I know you've got your Rev A, but I've got only Rev B :P

And meanwhile I don't have any GH60...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 09 April 2014, 21:13:05
That's Rev A son, Rev B is chilling somewhere else....

I know you've got your Rev A, but I've got only Rev B :P

And meanwhile I don't have any GH60...

The gh60 isn't commie compatible...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 09 April 2014, 21:16:22
I still want the the_beast gh60 case... :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mauri on Thu, 10 April 2014, 04:08:36
#itshappening

(http://i.imgur.com/Gb5F9Qn.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 10 April 2014, 10:06:12
wtb gh 60<3
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Strychnine on Sat, 12 April 2014, 09:07:49
 :) hi
I'd like to build a GH60 ...my Ducky Shine 2  is close to be dead  ^^
Also what about Pcbcart Gh60 Rev B V2   http://oshpark.com/shared_projects/tH85WHtP  is it the last revision of PCB ?
Is there any last update 200% working without issue?
Do i need to uy to this store or better group order here?

Also i'm looking to Mod a Leopold 660M MX Clear...

What do you think about?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 12 April 2014, 10:18:27
Also what about Pcbcart Gh60 Rev B V2   http://oshpark.com/shared_projects/tH85WHtP  is it the last revision of PCB ?
Is there any last update 200% working without issue?
Do i need to uy to this store or better group order here?

The newest version of the GH60 is Rev. C and it is not public yet - you will have to wait until the PCBs from the group buy are shipped.
You cannot buy the newest version anywhere yet. You will have to wait a bit, some orders will get sold in the classifieds and Mechanicalkeyboards.com will also most likely sell them later.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 12 April 2014, 10:20:58
Also what about Pcbcart Gh60 Rev B V2   http://oshpark.com/shared_projects/tH85WHtP  is it the last revision of PCB ?
Is there any last update 200% working without issue?
Do i need to uy to this store or better group order here?

The newest version of the GH60 is Rev. C and it is not public yet - you will have to wait until the PCBs from the group buy are shipped.
You cannot buy the newest version anywhere yet. You will have to wait a bit, some orders will get sold in the classifieds and Mechanicalkeyboards.com will also most likely sell them later.

/off topic

happy birthday BlueBär
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 12 April 2014, 11:08:49
happy birthday BlueBär

Thank you :-*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Strychnine on Sat, 12 April 2014, 11:26:01
 ;) Thank you BBear ...and Happy BD :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: do_Og@n on Sun, 13 April 2014, 00:42:43
happy birthday BlueBär

Thank you :-*

Two geekhackers with the same bday. Happy Birthday BlueBär!!

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 13 April 2014, 00:58:02
#itshappening

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Gb5F9Qn.jpg)


Haha best meme.. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 13 April 2014, 05:03:29
;) Thank you BBear ...and Happy BD :)

Thanks!

Two geekhackers with the same bday. Happy Birthday BlueBär!!

It was your birthday, too? Happy birthday to you as well then :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Infallible on Tue, 15 April 2014, 11:25:52
Selling my order of PCB, poker plate, plate cherry stabs, 63xbrown for $110
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 15 April 2014, 12:14:21
Selling my order of PCB, poker plate, plate cherry stabs, 63xbrown for $110

You don't have any of those on hand yet, right?  I see your order is #174 with all the stuff you've listed :) 

Before transferring your order to another person, please make sure you both get in touch with whoever is running the group buy currently to ensure that the new recipient / new address are accepted.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: JayKthnx on Tue, 15 April 2014, 15:30:11
last I'd heard, address changes to new people weren't being accepted. is this still true? if not, salmo and I need to contact whoever is in control of his order and get it moved to me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 15 April 2014, 16:28:16
No transfers. If you want to sell your order, you'll have to wait until you have it in hand (per new rules).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: 7bit on Thu, 17 April 2014, 03:08:58
Any idea when the switches will be shipped?
:?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: boxfulofsanity on Thu, 17 April 2014, 09:35:19
Do we know when the next GB for this board will be?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: duq on Thu, 17 April 2014, 09:48:02

Do we know when the next GB for this board will be?

With how many were ordered you have a good chance getting one in the classifieds when the boards start shipping if you camp the classifieds. Some places like mechanical keyboards.com might have ordered a bunch of bare boards too...

I don't foresee another GB soon, and if it does it will be another long gap till shipment.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 17 April 2014, 23:26:45
Unless the US orders ship within the next week I'm going to need to change where my order ships to as I'm going to have to move. Hopefully this isn't an issue.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Tranquilite on Fri, 18 April 2014, 10:25:25
Unless the US orders ship within the next week I'm going to need to change where my order ships to as I'm going to have to move. Hopefully this isn't an issue.

I'm in the same boat as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 20 April 2014, 12:32:45
No transfers. If you want to sell your order, you'll have to wait until you have it in hand (per new rules).
I forgot if this was answered (forgive me keyboard gods, it's been a year), what if you've moved since you placed your order? I don't remember if I changed where mine is shipped to.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Sun, 20 April 2014, 12:52:52
My guess is that they'll ask where to send when that time is here. Since this GB has been going on for so long and some people have moved, including maybe myself if we'll add another couple of months.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 20 April 2014, 14:24:52
My guess is that they'll ask where to send when that time is here. Since this GB has been going on for so long and some people have moved, including maybe myself if we'll add another couple of months.

Yes, that's the most probable option.
I'm nearly certain I will confirm every order before I pack and ship (for the EU part)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Kmynis on Sun, 20 April 2014, 14:53:32
That will help me sleep better. Some stuff from other GBs arrived to my old address and got stolen/returned. RIP purple cherry mods ;(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 20 April 2014, 16:18:03
wait so what's the deal with 7x wires?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Jmneuv on Sun, 20 April 2014, 18:23:39
Could someone please update the first post with a summary of the current GB status? I've completely lost track where we are right now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: 7bit on Wed, 23 April 2014, 13:44:58
WHERE ARE MY SWITCHES? DID YOU SHIP THEM YET?
:o
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 23 April 2014, 13:55:44
WHERE ARE MY SWITCHES? DID YOU SHIP THEM YET?
:o

Sent you a PM over at DT.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 23 April 2014, 14:09:20
WHERE ARE MY SWITCHES? DID YOU SHIP THEM YET?
:o
Fight me 1v1 bro!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 23 April 2014, 15:09:37
How I read that:

(http://i.imgur.com/VC8r9id.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 24 April 2014, 09:39:57
Could someone please update the first post with a summary of the current GB status? I've completely lost track where we are right now.

seconded. thanks :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 April 2014, 10:15:35
Could someone please update the first post with a summary of the current GB status? I've completely lost track where we are right now.

seconded. thanks :)

Done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 24 April 2014, 10:20:35
Komar said PCB's were being shipped to TJ at the end of March

Okay guys, so a status update:
The PCBs have been produced and the US/Canada part is being shipped to tjcaustin. imsto's package is on its way too, directly from China.
The plates have been ordered, and they should take another week to finish production, according to ApocalypseMaow.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 April 2014, 10:33:55
Komar said PCB's were being shipped to TJ at the end of March

Okay guys, so a status update:
The PCBs have been produced and the US/Canada part is being shipped to tjcaustin. imsto's package is on its way too, directly from China.
The plates have been ordered, and they should take another week to finish production, according to ApocalypseMaow.

You're right. That's what he said. I haven't heard any status update since then. But maybe I'm out of the loop on that one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 24 April 2014, 11:13:59
Komar said PCB's were being shipped to TJ at the end of March

Okay guys, so a status update:
The PCBs have been produced and the US/Canada part is being shipped to tjcaustin. imsto's package is on its way too, directly from China.
The plates have been ordered, and they should take another week to finish production, according to ApocalypseMaow.

Based on that, it should be all produced and the prepping to ship stage then.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 24 April 2014, 14:16:01
Still waiting on plates here! I'll see if I can get another status update for you dudes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: abtrout on Wed, 30 April 2014, 19:56:27
gimme the lootGH60s. gimme the lootGH60s.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 01 May 2014, 02:16:41
since I had to get the left-overs I ended up with 2 poker plates. if anyone is willing to swap one plate, please let me know. thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 01 May 2014, 10:41:58
since I had to get the left-overs I ended up with 2 poker plates. if anyone is willing to swap one plate, please let me know. thanks

I can offer you a SamWiseKoy plate if you're interested.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tricheboars on Thu, 01 May 2014, 12:59:01
i have a silver beat poker plate i might trade for another plate with an interesting layout.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: polarpigs on Thu, 01 May 2014, 23:15:17
How is the ETA looking? :/ My time in the States is running short..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 02 May 2014, 07:34:04
Could someone please update the first post with a summary of the current GB status? I've completely lost track where we are right now.

seconded. thanks :)

I've also put this information in the Simple Questions thread's OP.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: p3lim on Fri, 02 May 2014, 09:12:27
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/d759a9ae71ff032062ee99f79e9fae81

Is this layout possible on the PCB? I've marked anything non-ANSI-standard on the legends.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 02 May 2014, 09:22:46
since I had to get the left-overs I ended up with 2 poker plates. if anyone is willing to swap one plate, please let me know. thanks

I can offer you a SamWiseKoy plate if you're interested.

the right shift would drive me crazy... but if I can't find anything else, well better than 2 poker :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 02 May 2014, 10:20:45
since I had to get the left-overs I ended up with 2 poker plates. if anyone is willing to swap one plate, please let me know. thanks

I can offer you a SamWiseKoy plate if you're interested.

the right shift would drive me crazy... but if I can't find anything else, well better than 2 poker :)

Matt, I should have an extra Pure layout, if that's of any interest to you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 02 May 2014, 12:06:00
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/d759a9ae71ff032062ee99f79e9fae81

Is this layout possible on the PCB? I've marked anything non-ANSI-standard on the legends.

Yes that should be possible if the stabilizers of the spacebar are in the correct positions.

the right shift would drive me crazy... but if I can't find anything else, well better than 2 poker :)

Yeah it's a pretty crazy layout which is why I don't really want it (picked up one of the leftover orders) :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: JBert on Sat, 03 May 2014, 08:40:42
Still waiting on plates here! I'll see if I can get another status update for you dudes.
Well, a week has passed. Any news on that update? I'm getting annoyed with my flaky Soarer-modded Poker...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 05 May 2014, 05:41:48
since I had to get the left-overs I ended up with 2 poker plates. if anyone is willing to swap one plate, please let me know. thanks

I can offer you a SamWiseKoy plate if you're interested.

the right shift would drive me crazy... but if I can't find anything else, well better than 2 poker :)

Matt, I should have an extra Pure layout, if that's of any interest to you.

The pure is lovely... if you are willing to ship to Italy. PM'd
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 05 May 2014, 09:36:48
Still waiting on plates here! I'll see if I can get another status update for you dudes.
Well, a week has passed. Any news on that update? I'm getting annoyed with my flaky Soarer-modded Poker...
Still in production. :/
I hear you though. I'm ready to build one already!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Donbabbeo on Mon, 05 May 2014, 14:22:32
Just to know... are order closed already right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 05 May 2014, 14:25:05
Just to know... are order closed already right?

yes
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HannibalChew on Mon, 05 May 2014, 15:09:24
I've been completely out the loop lately and just remembered about this group buy. I can't wait!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Gondorff on Mon, 05 May 2014, 16:45:28
I just found out about this. Is there some way I can purchase one in the future?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 05 May 2014, 16:46:50
I just found out about this. Is there some way I can purchase one in the future?
Either in the classifieds after everyone gets theirs, or hopefully from mechanicalkeyboards.com if they stock them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ekw808 on Mon, 05 May 2014, 16:47:32
Once this gb is finished I'm sure you'll have a chance, just be patient.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Tarzan on Mon, 05 May 2014, 16:49:32
I just found out about this. Is there some way I can purchase one in the future?

I can guarantee there will be extra GH60 PCBs available in the Classifieds once they've been shipped.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:04:15
PLATES ARE DONE!!! JUST GOT THE EMAIL!!! Well, woke up to read my email. I should have all the PayPal stuff worked out tomorrow and will be delivering them in a week or so to TJ!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:08:27
hype
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: yuiop on Mon, 05 May 2014, 22:25:11
PLATES ARE DONE!!! JUST GOT THE EMAIL!!! Well, woke up to read my email. I should have all the PayPal stuff worked out tomorrow and will be delivering them in a week or so to TJ!

best news ever
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 06 May 2014, 11:15:11
my alu case is ready in all its anodized glory
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 06 May 2014, 15:25:23
PLATES ARE DONE!!! JUST GOT THE EMAIL!!! Well, woke up to read my email. I should have all the PayPal stuff worked out tomorrow and will be delivering them in a week or so to TJ!

Can I ask how it'll work from there?  Will the EU plates then be sent to the EU proxy and then on to us with the PCBs?

(I realise you may not know the answer to this but one of the other organisers might :thumb:)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:37:54
We ain't got no stabs yet do we? Another few months yet I feel.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:40:38
I just want my single pcb T_T

/selfish /impatience
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:49:07
Can I ask how it'll work from there?  Will the EU plates then be sent to the EU proxy and then on to us with the PCBs?

(I realise you may not know the answer to this but one of the other organisers might :thumb:)

The boards still have to get assembled and yeah stabs are still missing (that was another part that should have been organized by WFD).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:51:29
I just want my single pcb T_T

/selfish /impatience

Yarr.  I don't think I ordered anything except PCBs...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 May 2014, 16:53:39
I just want my single pcb T_T

/selfish /impatience

Yarr.  I don't think I ordered anything except PCBs...

3 PCB's and a 10x Universal plate and 1 set of cherry plate mounted stabs according to the order confirmation in the first post.....UNLESS that isn't correct
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 06 May 2014, 17:02:02
I just want my single pcb T_T

/selfish /impatience

Yarr.  I don't think I ordered anything except PCBs...

3 PCB's and a 10x Universal plate and 1 set of cherry plate mounted stabs according to the order confirmation in the first post.....UNLESS that isn't correct

Can I give away my stabilizers and just get the rest of my order?  Please?  P-p-p-please?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 May 2014, 17:03:20
I think there are a lot of us who would pass on stabilizers....I know I would I've got some already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: duq on Tue, 06 May 2014, 18:20:56
Sorry for asking again, but I needed to change my shipping address and I figured since final products are being shipped to distributors, I should figure out how to verify where things are really going .

So how do I change my address?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Tranquilite on Wed, 07 May 2014, 00:25:51
I just want my single pcb T_T

/selfish /impatience

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 07 May 2014, 01:09:19
I think there are a lot of us who would pass on stabilizers....I know I would I've got some already.

^ indeed!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 07 May 2014, 03:01:24
I'm in a similar situation - I just ordered two PCBs and one plate knowing that I would source everything else myself (and have) and was hoping now that the plates and PCBs are produced that I could get my stuff sooner rather than later...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 07 May 2014, 05:33:39
As far as plates go. I still have to pick them up and get them to TJ in TX. After that, I wash my hands of it all!
Hopefully everything else falls into place from here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Wed, 07 May 2014, 15:44:14
Either way, many thanks ApocalypseMaow! You were a deus ex machina to us
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 07 May 2014, 19:43:16
Either way, many thanks ApocalypseMaow! You were a deus ex machina to us
I'm just stoked we will have GH60 soon™
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 08 May 2014, 00:23:00
Here's an "I have no idea what I'm doing post" for those more technically inclined out there.  While waiting on my GH60, I decided that I really want an Alps compatible one.  So I was messing around trying to figure out KiCad, but got lost. 

I made what should be an MX/Alps module for the PCB (files at this link (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3mgmdhy0rhrtwxs/GH60.zip) titled MX1AAlps in the MX1A library), but have no idea how to populate it to the PCB layout or even if it would work.  Anyone care to help a little?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Lubed Up Slug on Thu, 08 May 2014, 01:47:26
Is there ever going to be a round 2 on this....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: TDub on Thu, 08 May 2014, 02:14:05
Round 1 isn't done..... so what is the point of talking about a round 2.


Sorry for asking again, but I needed to change my shipping address and I figured since final products are being shipped to distributors, I should figure out how to verify where things are really going .

So how do I change my address?

Also need to change shipping address.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Thu, 08 May 2014, 03:26:09
Sorry for asking again, but I needed to change my shipping address and I figured since final products are being shipped to distributors, I should figure out how to verify where things are really going .

So how do I change my address?

Also need to change shipping address.
[/quote]

In long lasting GB's they ask for shipping addresses before sending because when dealing with a large group over a large amount of time there will always be people moving, Don't worry the shipping will be a-okay
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Harrowed on Thu, 08 May 2014, 05:42:55
Is there ever going to be a round 2 on this....
There is one similar DIY keyboard coming: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57948.0
There will be also several GH60's going straight to aftermarket when this GB finishes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Thu, 08 May 2014, 08:49:05
i believe jdcarpe can do address changes. I did mine recently through him.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Lubed Up Slug on Thu, 08 May 2014, 20:25:30
Is there ever going to be a round 2 on this....
There is one similar DIY keyboard coming: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57948.0
There will be also several GH60's going straight to aftermarket when this GB finishes.

Well if there are any left overs or cancellations, I will gladly buy a PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: niichie on Fri, 09 May 2014, 00:43:46
 If there are any cancellations for an ISO or ANSI HHKB style board I would gladly purchase it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: JBert on Fri, 09 May 2014, 02:00:30
No cancellations are allowed at this point, otherwise the groupbuy would get too complex.

Just wait for people to throw them on the market.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: niichie on Fri, 09 May 2014, 03:06:39
No cancellations are allowed at this point, otherwise the groupbuy would get too complex.

Just wait for people to throw them on the market.

Totally justified, I wish there were other HHKB layout group buys that looked this promising, not looking forward to getting bled dry by the markup prices that will likely get posted.

 :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 09 May 2014, 10:01:20
No cancellations are allowed at this point, otherwise the groupbuy would get too complex.

Just wait for people to throw them on the market.

Totally justified, I wish there were other HHKB layout group buys that looked this promising, not looking forward to getting bled dry by the markup prices that will likely get posted.

 :p

The GH60 is cool and all but you also might want to check this out if your after a HHKB layout MX board.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58074.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: duq on Fri, 09 May 2014, 15:46:45
No cancellations are allowed at this point, otherwise the groupbuy would get too complex.

Just wait for people to throw them on the market.

Totally justified, I wish there were other HHKB layout group buys that looked this promising, not looking forward to getting bled dry by the markup prices that will likely get posted.

 :p

The GH60 is cool and all but you also might want to check this out if your after a HHKB layout MX board.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58074.0

ALU Case, plate, and PCB for $220 :-X. Quite a deal IMO
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: totocaster on Mon, 19 May 2014, 14:10:54
Hi! My first post here. I've been watching this forum for a while and I have to say it's a great community!

Back on topic. Can I still fill out the order form to get new GH60 batch? What should I do now to in order to be able to get one?

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 19 May 2014, 14:16:25
Hi! My first post here. I've been watching this forum for a while and I have to say it's a great community!

Back on topic. Can I still fill out the order form to get new GH60 batch? What should I do now to in order to be able to get one?

Thanks!

Ordering is long over with but if you wait these will eventually be delivered and there will be tons of them for sale in the classifieds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: sth on Mon, 19 May 2014, 14:17:54
Hi! My first post here. I've been watching this forum for a while and I have to say it's a great community!

Back on topic. Can I still fill out the order form to get new GH60 batch? What should I do now to in order to be able to get one?

Thanks!

Welcome Thomas
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: totocaster on Mon, 19 May 2014, 14:25:39
Ordering is long over with but if you wait these will eventually be delivered and there will be tons of them for sale in the classifieds.

So I won't be able to get it from any keyboard shops online any soon? Classifieds availability is good news nevertheless. Thanks!

Welcome Thomas

It's (or rather, I'm) Toto. :) Thanks for welcome!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: sth on Mon, 19 May 2014, 14:28:44
Ordering is long over with but if you wait these will eventually be delivered and there will be tons of them for sale in the classifieds.

So I won't be able to get it from any keyboard shops online any soon? Classifieds availability is good news nevertheless. Thanks!

Welcome Thomas

It's (or rather, I'm) Toto. :) Thanks for welcome!


Sorry Reid
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: JonasDK on Mon, 19 May 2014, 16:17:42
So what's the status atm?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mkaito on Mon, 19 May 2014, 17:40:03
First post was updated rather recently.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Poom on Tue, 20 May 2014, 15:35:49
hi guys, can anyone tell me whether or not the orders can be shipped out by the end of May or early June at the latest?

I am moving again... in the middle of June, so I may need to change my address, this time from Europe to Asia, so quite a big one.

This is going to be a third time I am moving since the start of this GB, lol.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: f4zzzx on Tue, 20 May 2014, 17:25:34
Hi guys,

What is the first column in the GH60 order page ( PD, involved... ) ?

I appear well at the end of the page, is it good or I need to confirm ?

Thx

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: JonasDK on Tue, 20 May 2014, 17:33:10
Hi guys,

What is the first column in the GH60 order page ( PD, involved... ) ?

I appear well at the end of the page, is it good or I need to confirm ?

Thx

I think PD means paid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 20 May 2014, 17:35:38
What is the first column in the GH60 order page ( PD, involved... ) ?

I appear well at the end of the page, is it good or I need to confirm ?

When did you enter your data into the form?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: f4zzzx on Tue, 20 May 2014, 17:41:44
Quote
I think PD means paid

Ok thank you.

Quote
When did you enter your data into the form?

An hour ago...  :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 20 May 2014, 17:45:43
An hour ago...  :-[

Yeah that's about 323 days too late.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: f4zzzx on Tue, 20 May 2014, 17:51:07
Quote
Yeah that's about 323 days too late.

 ;D ;D ;D

I came across the topic yesterday and I'm a bit rushed.

When I saw that the form was still online I filled directly.

No GH60 for me :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 20 May 2014, 17:55:27
Quote
Yeah that's about 323 days too late.

 ;D ;D ;D

I came across the topic yesterday and I'm a bit rushed.

When I saw that the form was still online I filled directly.

No GH60 for me :thumb:

There should be plenty in the Classifieds section once everyone begins receiving theirs.

In the meantime, welcome to GeekHack! Hope you'll stay and participate in the community.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: p3lim on Wed, 21 May 2014, 10:37:24
Should really update OP with a notice that the orders are closed
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 21 May 2014, 10:46:13
Should really update OP with a notice that the orders are closed

It would have to be a mod edit since WFD went AWOL. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 May 2014, 10:46:54
Should really update OP with a notice that the orders are closed

It would have to be a mod edit since WFD went AWOL. 

looks like jdcarpe took care of it
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 May 2014, 10:52:43
Yeah, and everyone that put in orders after the deadline, those rows are about to be deleted from the spreadsheet. Nice try.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 21 May 2014, 10:56:43
Yeah, and everyone that put in orders after the deadline, those rows are about to be deleted from the spreadsheet. Nice try.

(http://hotmeme.net/media/i/c/9/kN5-if-it-weren-t-for-that-meddling-jdcarpe-and-i-would-ve-gotten-away.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:33:54
I just noticed that getting ISO key caps is very very hard compared to ANSI key caps
I have assembly for my GH60 with an ISO plate, I was wondering if it was possible to change that to ANSI? I know no changes in orders but since this is isnt related to any physical orders I'd guess it's up to the assembler for Europe?

Btw I took over the order for Numerus, if that helps. (Still isnt changed to my name in the order confirmations)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 22 May 2014, 18:06:12
I just noticed that getting ISO key caps is very very hard compared to ANSI key caps
I have assembly for my GH60 with an ISO plate, I was wondering if it was possible to change that to ANSI? I know no changes in orders but since this is isnt related to any physical orders I'd guess it's up to the assembler for Europe?

Btw I took over the order for Numerus, if that helps. (Still isnt changed to my name in the order confirmations)
Getting ISO dyesub is much easier than ANSI
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Thu, 22 May 2014, 18:10:57
I don't know about dyesub but so far pretty much all shops and GB's mainly sell ANSI sets and only a small group sell ISO kits, it seems like a wiser investment to get ANSI straight off the bat
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 22 May 2014, 20:08:57
It depends a lot on what caps you like, and in which languages... but ISO DE Cherry doubleshots or dyesub from older G80/G81 is not at all hard to find used on ebay for decent price the majority of the time. BE is not easy, but you may find FR, ES, IT sometimes others.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 22 May 2014, 20:15:26
ANSI is the most desireable, and thus there are more ANSI sets produced than ISO. Same reason why ISO is cheaper and easier to get: all the desireable ANSI has already been taken
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 22 May 2014, 22:49:21
ANSI is the most desireable, and thus there are more ANSI sets produced than ISO. Same reason why ISO is cheaper and easier to get: all the desireable ANSI has already been taken

not even going to respond.

Getting ISO dyesub is much easier than ANSI

+1

ebay search for g80's
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=cherry+g80&_frs=1 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=cherry+g80&_frs=1)

and g81's
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=cherry+g81&_frs=1 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=cherry+g81&_frs=1)

most of the results are iso.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Fri, 23 May 2014, 03:12:18
Seems like most of you guys are talking about actual keyboards though, I only wanted keycaps, back to topic though, is there any way to change how my keyboard will be assembled?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 23 May 2014, 03:24:39
Seems like most of you guys are talking about actual keyboards though, I only wanted keycaps, back to topic though, is there any way to change how my keyboard will be assembled?

Most people buy those boards just for the caps and switches.

At this point I think you can only ask them to skip assembly for your board.

Edit: I forgot, I have some lasered white BE caps you can have for the cost of shipping. They are a bit faded but will do the job.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 23 May 2014, 03:27:21
you are asking for a plate change. so that is a order change and order changes are not possible at this point as everything has been made already. you ordered a iso plate and it has already been cut. so you can not make changes at this point to your plate configuration.

you have two options really.
1. if you ordered with pcb mount stabilizers ask the assembler to assemble it without the plate in ansi instead of iso.
2. receive everything unassembled and trade plates via classifieds then arrange someone else to assemble it for you.

do not take this the wrong way,  it is just way to late to make order changes and it has been copy and pasted over and over through out this thread.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Fri, 23 May 2014, 03:34:54
Qh crap, I didnt think about the plate mounted stabs, nah I'll be ok with ISO in that case, I'll just have to look extra hard for some nice blank ISO keycaps
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 23 May 2014, 03:43:53
Qh crap, I didnt think about the plate mounted stabs, nah I'll be ok with ISO in that case, I'll just have to look extra hard for some nice blank ISO keycaps

https://www.teraset.net/ducky.php
Scroll down to accessories.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Fri, 23 May 2014, 03:58:00
Qh crap, I didnt think about the plate mounted stabs, nah I'll be ok with ISO in that case, I'll just have to look extra hard for some nice blank ISO keycaps

https://www.teraset.net/ducky.php
Scroll down to accessories.

Oh man, thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 23 May 2014, 09:00:56
The dolch groupbuy has a iso kit also ^_^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 23 May 2014, 09:25:58
The dolch groupbuy has a iso kit also ^_^

Actually, I've managed to get ISO kits for almost every group buy I've bought into.  Some like the Tai Hao and Vortex sets don't have ISO keys, but more do than not.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dr. MaRV on Tue, 27 May 2014, 05:07:23
What is the latest status of the GH60? I haven't followed this thread for a few month, but i'm still waiting for delivery of my GH60. Are the Boards shipped or not? My location is germany...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 27 May 2014, 05:21:39
What is the latest status of the GH60? I haven't followed this thread for a few month, but i'm still waiting for delivery of my GH60. Are the Boards shipped or not? My location is germany...

No GH60s apart from prototypes have been shipped yet. You can find the status in the first post of this thread although I think plates are done now. We really need a source for stabilizers (that was one of WFDs jobs but he has gone MIA) but apart from that we're looking good.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Heliosphere on Wed, 28 May 2014, 18:14:00
Is there a chance for another GH60 group buy in the future?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 28 May 2014, 18:25:29
Is there a chance for another GH60 group buy in the future?

Yes, they might also get sold by mk.com.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 30 May 2014, 00:34:28
I'm moving in two weeks, so like a few others, I was also wondering how I can change my address.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 30 May 2014, 02:09:12
I'm moving in two weeks, so like a few others, I was also wondering how I can change my address.

Send one of the GB organizers (not WhiteFireDragon though) a message.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 30 May 2014, 09:53:19
Did the PCB's ever make it to TJ? How about the plates?

Would the organizers consider shipping orders that don't require assembly or stabilizers when the parts arrive versus waiting on everything to be together etc?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 30 May 2014, 13:43:11
Are the majority of the impossible to find stabilizer'd cherry pcb mount?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Signature on Fri, 30 May 2014, 13:45:02
Are the majority of the impossible to find stabilizer'd cherry pcb mount?
I guess since you can buy costars at wasd, but you can buy mx stabs at imsto and gon for example! :O
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: T0ken on Fri, 30 May 2014, 19:56:23
It seems that Gon will have more Cherry PCB mount stabs next month:

http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers.html

If stabs are going to lock the group buy up I'd rather they just ship the PCB and components, I'd rather just source the stabs for myself.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 30 May 2014, 19:58:30
What I was thinking was that maybe imsto or gon could help us source stabs for the whole gb. If not them then maybe some friendly people from otd.kr ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: feizor on Fri, 30 May 2014, 20:02:46
Any chance of getting in on this? Extras perhaps?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 30 May 2014, 20:06:50
I just want my PCBs...
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/images/300x/6460956.jpg)

please tell me you guys aren't waiting for everything before shipping out anything.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: codyeatworld on Fri, 30 May 2014, 20:06:53
What I was thinking was that maybe imsto or gon could help us source stabs for the whole gb. If not them then maybe some friendly people from otd.kr ?

I posted this a while back but it got buried I guess...
I've spoken with GON since and he said he could match the price in the OP for the cherry stabs only iirc. Not sure exactly how many we need though.

Just so no one gets their hopes up prematurely, please realize that ordering stabilizers was one of the responsibilities we "inherited" from WFD. As far as I know, WFD never ordered the stabilizers, and doesn't have any currently. And we are having a slight problem in sourcing them, as everyone seems to be out of stock. If anyone has a source of available stabilizers, please let us know.

GON told me he thinks he can supply the cherry stabs sets, but not the costar.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 30 May 2014, 20:45:39
So I decided to try to do the math of how many stabilizers we would need and tried to add all this up from the spreadsheet in the OP...

This is not exact because some people did not specify exactly which stabs they wanted. In this case I choose for them and choose cherry PCB stabs because they are the most flexible with the universal plates. I also did not factor in the space bar wires that people wanted. but that is just bending the wire to size and not the actual stab kits themselves. I know that some people took over other peoples orders so that may also throw this off as well.

Cherry PCB stabs = 121
Cherry Plate stabs = 147
Costar stabs = 77
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 31 May 2014, 02:20:49
I just want my PCBs...
Show Image
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/images/300x/6460956.jpg)


please tell me you guys aren't waiting for everything before shipping out anything.

Me too (well PCBs + plate but nothing else)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: skrotnisse on Sat, 31 May 2014, 03:09:13
I just want my PCBs...
Show Image
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/images/300x/6460956.jpg)


please tell me you guys aren't waiting for everything before shipping out anything.

Loled
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 31 May 2014, 13:25:10
mouser has them in stock, they don't look overly expensive...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 31 May 2014, 14:05:23
Link?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: codyeatworld on Sat, 31 May 2014, 14:11:41
I'm pretty sure gon only can do the PCB stabs, I'll ask him about the wire sizes too next time I speak to him.

Does mouser have the plate mount stabs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 31 May 2014, 16:30:43
from what I have seen looking around between gon and imsto they might be able to do the cherry stabs. costar is really the problem.

edit: imsto also has cherry pcb stabs....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: n0rvig on Sun, 01 June 2014, 00:58:29
It would be great if we could get thick wires for the stabilizers. They seem to rattle less. For example, Imsto's version of cherry PCB mount have great wires.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 01 June 2014, 01:46:33
Link?

http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/CHERRY/0G990224/?qs=%2fha2pyFadujkrJC9EpBCI7nsinH0lnuf2MvuOZ4i0Hs%3d
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 01 June 2014, 09:37:19
Where are we for cases on this? I know they're not a part of this GB but from what I've dug up most people are making buys for poker like plastic shells. Kind of a bummer if you want a not full key layout.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 01 June 2014, 09:41:44
Where are we for cases on this? I know they're not a part of this GB but from what I've dug up most people are making buys for poker like plastic shells. Kind of a bummer if you want a not full key layout.

GBs for plastic shells? Most are metal and there's one or two acrylic ones, but I've not seen a GB for plastic ones.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Broadmonkey on Sun, 01 June 2014, 10:03:56
Tinlong had such a buy at one time, but I can't remember if it was before or after the start of the GH60 gb. also I think it was canceled, but he sold some in the classified, along with KBT Pure PCBs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 01 June 2014, 10:41:29
Where are we for cases on this? I know they're not a part of this GB but from what I've dug up most people are making buys for poker like plastic shells. Kind of a bummer if you want a not full key layout.

GBs for plastic shells? Most are metal and there's one or two acrylic ones, but I've not seen a GB for plastic ones.
I just found the alu ones, but they're all just shells. Might have to get creative.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sun, 01 June 2014, 10:48:30
Pexon has a GB for an ALU case thats dead cheap ($60), i think he has a few left over!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 01 June 2014, 10:50:26
It's not the getting of a case, it's that I was either doing winkesless or HHKB style. Neither of which a lot of people want so there are no buys for them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mauri on Sun, 01 June 2014, 11:18:36
It's not the getting of a case, it's that I was either doing winkesless or HHKB style. Neither of which a lot of people want so there are no buys for them.

GON had a small hhkb/winkeyless case groupbuy, but it was pretty expensive and past deadline already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 01 June 2014, 12:56:42
I think the most simple way is use a tray type case that's already available, then have thin piece of whatever material you like lasered out with the 'missing' key blocks in. I think there is enough bezel that you could epoxy a top on that takes care of aesthetics without needing to spend a fortune.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 02 June 2014, 17:03:45
Link?

http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/CHERRY/0G990224/?qs=%2fha2pyFadujkrJC9EpBCI7nsinH0lnuf2MvuOZ4i0Hs%3d

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 03 June 2014, 07:44:18
RL issues have been really unforgiving, which was why I couldn't fulfill my part of this GB. It shames me to see that my slack was picked up by JD, komar, tj, and some new guys that have stepped up.

I've had most of the stabilizers since last year, including cherries and costars. I just need to get a count on how many I ordered. The custom wires were to be ordered through a company, but I will have to get in contact with them again.

Whatever loose ends are left, I promise to get them done. But I still need to get catch up where this GB currently is at, as well as the rest of the forum status. I have involvement in a few other projects as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 03 June 2014, 07:55:41
Thanks for giving us a status update WFD!

But at this point I am not really sure whether the stabilizer situation is actually a problem anymore.

But of course JD, Komar and TJ have better insights :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 June 2014, 08:20:38
Okay guys, so a status update:
The PCBs have been produced and the US/Canada part is being shipped to tjcaustin. imsto's package is on its way too, directly from China.

As far as plates go. I still have to pick them up and get them to TJ in TX. After that, I wash my hands of it all!
Hopefully everything else falls into place from here.

Any update on either of these?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 03 June 2014, 08:28:56
Assembly needs to be done for most boards I think (resitors, the controller, etc.). This will take some time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 June 2014, 08:40:04
Assembly needs to be done for most boards I think (resitors, the controller, etc.). This will take some time.

I thought all that stuff (diodes, controller, resitors) was factory done with pick and place? That the assembly was just switches, plates, stabilizers etc.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 03 June 2014, 09:36:30
I thought all that stuff (diodes, controller, resitors) was factory done with pick and place? That the assembly was just switches, plates, stabilizers etc.

Hmm not sure.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: whiskytango on Tue, 03 June 2014, 09:39:41
From the OP:


 Assembly
 The PCBs will come with all SMD preassembled, including diodes. Switches and LEDs will require your own soldering. If you’re brave and want to do the SMD soldering yourself, PCB and a bag of SMT components will be cheaper. There will be options for assembly service if you cannot build it yourself.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 03 June 2014, 09:44:39
That doesn't say if the SMD soldering is done by the factory or not though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 03 June 2014, 10:01:45
Following this project from the beginning like so many of us. This was supposed to be smd pick and placed all along.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: whiskytango on Tue, 03 June 2014, 10:11:13
Ok then, maybe this quote is specific enough:

There are more DIY PCB kits ordered than I thought. I know price is attractive, but I want you to make sure you know exactly what you're getting into when getting a DIY kit. This is not your typical soldering of large through-hole switch pins. All the SMD components are provided, but you'll have to solder them on yourself. The pre-soldered boards have all the SMD done at the factory by a pick-and-place machine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 03 June 2014, 10:16:31
Ah right, thank you :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 03 June 2014, 10:26:28
Ah right, thank you :)

BlueBär, have you let the church of halverson into your heart?   :))

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3931300864/hF742370C/)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 03 June 2014, 10:27:10
Any updates on this, where do we stand regarding

- PCBs
- Switches
- Stabilizers
- Plates

The project has been going well but since one of the leads went MIA its all been a bit in the air. I have no idea of what the time scale is for delivery? Unless I missed a post?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 03 June 2014, 10:31:18
Reread the op please.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 03 June 2014, 10:39:22
BlueBär, have you let the church of halverson into your heart?   :))

Show Image
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3931300864/hF742370C/)


Maybe I should!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 03 June 2014, 11:08:08
Reread the op please.

not sure its relevant still, the PCB have been in production for months and i believe the plates also have been received?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tricheboars on Tue, 03 June 2014, 11:09:20
RL issues have been really unforgiving, which was why I couldn't fulfill my part of this GB. It shames me to see that my slack was picked up by JD, komar, tj, and some new guys that have stepped up.

I've had most of the stabilizers since last year, including cherries and costars. I just need to get a count on how many I ordered. The custom wires were to be ordered through a company, but I will have to get in contact with them again.

Whatever loose ends are left, I promise to get them done. But I still need to get catch up where this GB currently is at, as well as the rest of the forum status. I have involvement in a few other projects as well.

good to hear from you WFD.  that is good news about the stabs. as it seems many places that normally sell them have been sold out recently.

thank you very much for returning. please hangout with us more if you can!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 June 2014, 11:23:37
Reread the op please.

not sure its relevant still, the PCB have been in production for months and i believe the plates also have been received?

Okay guys, so a status update:
The PCBs have been produced and the US/Canada part is being shipped to tjcaustin. imsto's package is on its way too, directly from China.

As far as plates go. I still have to pick them up and get them to TJ in TX. After that, I wash my hands of it all!
Hopefully everything else falls into place from here.

Any update on either of these?

Those are the latest updates I have seen besides WFD's comment today about him having some stabs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 03 June 2014, 21:55:48
Thank you based god  :'( :'(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: 7bit on Wed, 04 June 2014, 02:00:53
Reread the op please.
Quote from: OP
PCBs: In production
Plates: In production
Switches: On hand
Stabilizers: Looking for source...
Assembly: to be completed by tjcaustin and komar007 once all components are received
Shipping: Not started
:cry:

Any way you can send switches and other stuff to people who only ordered these?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 04 June 2014, 05:26:48
:cry:

Any way you can send switches and other stuff to people who only ordered these?

This was asked a few times already, I don't think this will be done because it would probably result in chaos.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 04 June 2014, 06:41:39
:cry:

Any way you can send switches and other stuff to people who only ordered these?

This was asked a few times already, I don't think this will be done because it would probably result in chaos.

If that's chaos what the hell do you call the cluster**** this GB has been the whole time?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Wed, 04 June 2014, 06:48:37
If you look at the scale of this project, places items come from, the amount of people who we are dependent on and those are doing it in their free time I'd say it's still on track mostly.
Title: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: iAmAhab on Wed, 04 June 2014, 06:57:52
I'm with qipz on this one. You have to remember that this is not a commercial buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 04 June 2014, 07:15:45
If that's chaos what the hell do you call the cluster**** this GB has been the whole time?

Cluster****? If you keep the scale in mind and that one of the main organizers disappeared for like what, half a year?, it went pretty well. We had to do a lot of development and testing and that takes time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 04 June 2014, 09:21:15
I'm with BlueBar on this one.

Looking at the OP and all the great graphics and layout options, it's easy to forget that this is a community built keyboard and not a commercial endeavor.

Granted, this has been a long road we've all been on, but for a version 1 keyboard of this magnitude I'm quite pleased. There's been three revisions to the board and expansion models added and real life has gotten in the way for a few folks. Stuff happens.

There have been updates to keep everyone posted and the GB has been progressing and I'm more excited for the boards I ordered than when I first signed up.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 04 June 2014, 10:52:19
If that's chaos what the hell do you call the cluster**** this GB has been the whole time?

and that one of the main organizers disappeared for like what, half a year?

Uh... what exactly is that called?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:12:23
Uh... what exactly is that called?

"delay"

His work had to be done by other people. It still got done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:38:59
Can't people be unhappy about something that has been delayed excessively? A little empathy for them and understanding from them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tricheboars on Wed, 04 June 2014, 11:47:24
i am patient for this because i got addicted to ergodoxes. thank god for that and massdrop to keep me patient. 60% are still the **** big time, dont get me wrong. but i am not even sure what i am going to do with these bad boys now. i think i will connect them to my living room and bed room HTPCs.  yea that is what i will do.

i just want to solder some more. i am addicted.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 04 June 2014, 12:18:46
This GB is the most ambitious one I've seen on Geekhack and I'm very excited for it!  Even seeing the obstacles and delays it has gone through I still regret not being around to join when it first started so long ago.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 04 June 2014, 12:23:04
It seemed from prior posts by those involved that certain aspects were completed almost 2 months ago. If I had those pieces ordered available I would want to ship them out to get them the **** out of my house instead of waiting to have everything that was ordered by every person on hand before getting started filling orders and shipping them at all. To me doing that seems like it would make things easier as shipping gets spread out some and doing waves makes keeping track of what has and hasn't been filled very easy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 04 June 2014, 12:25:22
It seemed from prior posts by those involved that certain aspects were completed almost 2 months ago. If I had those pieces ordered available I would want to ship them out to get them the **** out of my house instead of waiting to have everything that was ordered by every person on hand before getting started filling orders and shipping them at all. To me doing that seems like it would make things easier as shipping gets spread out some and doing waves makes keeping track of what has and hasn't been filled very easy.

Get out of here with your logic.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 June 2014, 12:34:38
It seemed from prior posts by those involved that certain aspects were completed almost 2 months ago. If I had those pieces ordered available I would want to ship them out to get them the **** out of my house instead of waiting to have everything that was ordered by every person on hand before getting started filling orders and shipping them at all. To me doing that seems like it would make things easier as shipping gets spread out some and doing waves makes keeping track of what has and hasn't been filled very easy.

Those aspects have neither been confirmed nor denied either :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: acidjazz on Wed, 04 June 2014, 12:42:32
Sorry for not reading all 120 pages but is there any chance of getting in on this still? extras/etc? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Qipz on Wed, 04 June 2014, 12:50:30
Sorry for not reading all 120 pages but is there any chance of getting in on this still? extras/etc? :)

check the classifieds when everyone got their gh60's also it's rumoured that a certain webstore will sell them in the future (?)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 04 June 2014, 15:21:14
Can't people be unhappy about something that has been delayed excessively? A little empathy for them and understanding from them.

Yes of course! I think everyone would be happier if this was finished already - probably the organizers too. I'm just saying that I wouldn't call it a cluster****.

Sorry for not reading all 120 pages but is there any chance of getting in on this still? extras/etc? :)

check the classifieds when everyone got their gh60's also it's rumoured that a certain webstore will sell them in the future (?)

Iirc it was somewhere confirmed that mechanicalkeyboards.com will sell them (like they do now with the Phantoms).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Tranquilite on Wed, 04 June 2014, 17:08:23
Considering how long the first and second Phantom group buys were delayed, I am not in the slightest bit surprised at how long this one has been running, hence the reason why I only ordered a PCB. I also agree with IvanIvanovich's logic that orders should be shipped in waves with the simpler orders going first (for wholly unselfish reasons /sarcasm).

Anyway, be sure to do a final call for updated shipping addresses before sending things out because I'm sure a few people (myself included) have moved since this whole shindig began.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 04 June 2014, 19:59:14
I've dropped the ball on my end. I've been working 6 12's at my job and had no time to mess with the plates. They're done but I'm finally getting sometime away from work now (outage is coming to an end). I've messaged TJ and I'm getting the payment worked out this week. fingers crossed

NOW, I've still got to get those plates to TJ and that might take sometime. I don't wish to hold this project up by any means, but I can't just abandon my home and work responsibilities either. Unfortunately for you guys the people left running this just happen to be quite busy outside of this forum...
(http://hotmeme.net/media/mememaker/9/7/75-i-know-****-me-right.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Wed, 04 June 2014, 22:33:13
Can't people be unhappy about something that has been delayed excessively? A little empathy for them and understanding from them.

Yes of course! I think everyone would be happier if this was finished already - probably the organizers too. I'm just saying that I wouldn't call it a cluster****.

Something else being worse, doesn't mean another less-bad thing isn't also bad.

I agree that we've entered cluster**** territory... but that is not intended to offend. **** happens. People get busy, overcommit, or simply get blindsided by stuff beyond their control. I don't think we should "blame" anyone... but i think it's legit to claim "cluster****," even if it's not "the guinness world cluster**** record."

Example: some people have had both arms and legs amputated, against their will. Should you complain about losing just one leg? I think a complaint would still be valid, in that case, even if it isn't the record for "worst possible outcome." I don't recall anyone claiming the GH60 GB was "the worst possible outcome of all group buys, ever!" But yes, it did become a bit of a cluster****, just not the worst possible kind.

But on a positive note: it seems as though things are about to get un-****ed, which i think is pretty great. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Wed, 04 June 2014, 22:54:54
Can't people be unhappy about something that has been delayed excessively? A little empathy for them and understanding from them.

Yes of course! I think everyone would be happier if this was finished already - probably the organizers too. I'm just saying that I wouldn't call it a cluster****.

Something else being worse, doesn't mean another less-bad thing isn't also bad.

I agree that we've entered cluster**** territory... but that is not intended to offend. **** happens. People get busy, overcommit, or simply get blindsided by stuff beyond their control. I don't think we should "blame" anyone... but i think it's legit to claim "cluster****," even if it's not "the guinness world cluster**** record."

Example: some people have had both arms and legs amputated, against their will. Should you complain about losing just one leg? I think a complaint would still be valid, in that case, even if it isn't the record for "worst possible outcome." I don't recall anyone claiming the GH60 GB was "the worst possible outcome of all group buys, ever!" But yes, it did become a bit of a cluster****, just not the worst possible kind.

But on a positive note: it seems as though things are about to get un-****ed, which i think is pretty great. :)

not to mention that the size of this GB is HUGE.  so it makes sense that it is not super smooth...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: salmo on Thu, 05 June 2014, 19:03:22
It's not a cluster**** because that implies activity.

WFD doesn't account for much delay at this point.  He disappeared for 6 or 9 months and didn't really miss anything.  It's not like the work he committed to is the only part not done.

And sure, a big group buy takes a lot of work. But it doesn't look like much of anything is happening.  The PCB's have been "in production" for what? 3 months?  We're over a year into the actual Group Buy now and all that's in anyone hands at this point is a pile of switches.  I get that folks have lives, but this has gone beyond comical.

Oh well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 05 June 2014, 19:30:07
It's not a cluster**** because that implies activity.

WFD doesn't account for much delay at this point.  He disappeared for 6 or 9 months and didn't really miss anything.  It's not like the work he committed to is the only part not done.

And sure, a big group buy takes a lot of work. But it doesn't look like much of anything is happening.  The PCB's have been "in production" for what? 3 months?  We're over a year into the actual Group Buy now and all that's in anyone hands at this point is a pile of switches.  I get that folks have lives, but this has gone beyond comical.

Oh well.
Good luck selling your order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nebo on Thu, 05 June 2014, 19:39:51
It's not a cluster**** because that implies activity.

WFD doesn't account for much delay at this point.  He disappeared for 6 or 9 months and didn't really miss anything.  It's not like the work he committed to is the only part not done.

And sure, a big group buy takes a lot of work. But it doesn't look like much of anything is happening.  The PCB's have been "in production" for what? 3 months?  We're over a year into the actual Group Buy now and all that's in anyone hands at this point is a pile of switches.  I get that folks have lives, but this has gone beyond comical.

Oh well.
Comical was R4 or TP with the phantom, this is pretty tame.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 06 June 2014, 12:59:58
Comical was R4 or TP with the phantom, this is pretty tame.

Agreed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 06 June 2014, 13:56:40
I've dropped the ball on my end. I've been working 6 12's at my job and had no time to mess with the plates. They're done but I'm finally getting sometime away from work now (outage is coming to an end). I've messaged TJ and I'm getting the payment worked out this week. fingers crossed

NOW, I've still got to get those plates to TJ and that might take sometime. I don't wish to hold this project up by any means, but I can't just abandon my home and work responsibilities either. Unfortunately for you guys the people left running this just happen to be quite busy outside of this forum...
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Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 06 June 2014, 15:17:29
I've dropped the ball on my end. I've been working 6 12's at my job and had no time to mess with the plates. They're done but I'm finally getting sometime away from work now (outage is coming to an end). I've messaged TJ and I'm getting the payment worked out this week. fingers crossed

NOW, I've still got to get those plates to TJ and that might take sometime. I don't wish to hold this project up by any means, but I can't just abandon my home and work responsibilities either. Unfortunately for you guys the people left running this just happen to be quite busy outside of this forum...
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Thank you very much;)
I'm waiting patiently.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: JayKthnx on Mon, 09 June 2014, 22:44:33
It's not a cluster**** because that implies activity.

WFD doesn't account for much delay at this point.  He disappeared for 6 or 9 months and didn't really miss anything.  It's not like the work he committed to is the only part not done.

And sure, a big group buy takes a lot of work. But it doesn't look like much of anything is happening.  The PCB's have been "in production" for what? 3 months?  We're over a year into the actual Group Buy now and all that's in anyone hands at this point is a pile of switches.  I get that folks have lives, but this has gone beyond comical.

Oh well.
Good luck selling your order.

I actually bought his order a couple months ago. We're just not allowed to have it shipped to me directly, hence why the order is still listed as his.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 10 June 2014, 05:01:32
It's not a cluster**** because that implies activity.

WFD doesn't account for much delay at this point.  He disappeared for 6 or 9 months and didn't really miss anything.  It's not like the work he committed to is the only part not done.

And sure, a big group buy takes a lot of work. But it doesn't look like much of anything is happening.  The PCB's have been "in production" for what? 3 months?  We're over a year into the actual Group Buy now and all that's in anyone hands at this point is a pile of switches.  I get that folks have lives, but this has gone beyond comical.

Oh well.
Good luck selling your order.

I actually bought his order a couple months ago. We're just not allowed to have it shipped to me directly, hence why the order is still listed as his.
Thank you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 10 June 2014, 15:32:57
I mean I'm not going to go full rage like i did a few months ago and don't mean to stir up trouble, but let me get this out of me, I have to, i'm sorry, you are all good people.

I "understand" the delays with getting plates, stab wires, pcb design, and switches and all the people CURRENTLY involved in this are good people, but please don't discount those who are not happy with this. When this finished invoices we were talking about September 2013 delivery. Then after some mentioned delays last fall due to PCB design there was literally NO ETA on when these were shipping out anymore since 2013, it has been completely up in the air since then, who knows if we will even get them this summer. The outcome of this group buy is not remotely healthy, stop saying it is and putting down people who are unhappy. There is already PCB alternatives to the GH60 (ones that fit a poker case and have many switch configs and programable) you can buy now from GON and get them right away with LED backlighting. The time where these GH60s would have been an edge over other 60% keyboards has passed, some could even validly call this group buy's value depreciated and even a failure. It's sad, its really sad story because those involved are not asshats like JackAss (druger) and takaki, or inexperienced like profisist, on paper this group buy seemed to be pretty legit. You can't blame a single person but i dont know what or who you blame.

So when are these shipping? it is clear that some people may not see their GH60s until a year or more after WFD declared they would be shipping.

I would even suggest the organizers put up a address confirmation form like MOZ did with his key chains. This group buy was invoiced a year ago and thats more time than someone usually leases an apartment, its unfair to those who moved and can no longer receive forwarding.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: iAmAhab on Tue, 10 June 2014, 15:38:03
The organizers have already stated that they will reconfirm everybody's addresses before it ships, no need to worry about it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 June 2014, 15:50:29
I mean I'm not going to go full rage like i did a few months ago and don't mean to stir up trouble, but let me get this out of me, I have to, i'm sorry, you are all good people.

I "understand" the delays with getting plates, stab wires, pcb design, and switches and all the people CURRENTLY involved in this are good people, but please don't discount those who are not happy with this. When this finished invoices we were talking about September 2013 delivery.

That was my earnest hope, but I was admittedly a bit naive in thinking that, and it never really was even close.


Then after some mentioned delays last fall due to PCB design there was literally NO ETA on when these were shipping out anymore since 2013, it has been completely up in the air since then, who knows if we will even get them this summer. The outcome of this group buy is not remotely healthy, stop saying it is and putting down people who are unhappy. There is already PCB alternatives to the GH60 (ones that fit a poker case and have many switch configs and programable) you can buy now from GON and get them right away with LED backlighting. The time where these GH60s would have been an edge over other 60% keyboards has passed, some could even validly call this group buy's value depreciated and even a failure. It's sad, its really sad story because those involved are not asshats like JackAss (druger) and takaki, or inexperienced like profisist, on paper this group buy seemed to be pretty legit. You can't blame a single person but i dont know what or who you blame.

I'm sorry you have lost faith, brother.


So when are these shipping? it is clear that some people may not see their GH60s until a year or more after WFD declared they would be shipping.

I wish I could give you a firm answer. TJ is shipping all the US orders, and Komar is shipping the rest. At this point, I think we can just write off WFD coming up with any stabilizers. Unfortunately, it's looking more and more like stabilizers may have to be sourced by the end user.


I would even suggest the organizers put up a address confirmation form like MOZ did with his key chains. This group buy was invoiced a year ago and thats more time than someone usually leases an apartment, its unfair to those who moved and can no longer receive forwarding.

Yeah, I long ago suggested that we do that. I'm sure it's the best way to go about it, at this point.


Sorry I couldn't be more specific. There are just too many things I don't know the answers to. Please be assured that any and all updates will be posted here, and the OP updated to reflect any new information.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:08:06
I lost faith yes, that is true, but I dont blame specifically you or specifically anyone. i am not sure how to describe it. just don't blame the unhappy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: damorgue on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:19:44
I got into this with the expectation that it would be severely delayed. No offense to anyone, but this is sort of regular around here. It ought not to have to be like this, but it often is and I guess this is why I am not even slightly disappointed. Go into it with no expectations and you can't be let down. That sounded way more depressing than I intended.

What I mean is that it will just be a happy surprise once it does ship and you forgot about it. I guess I have strong faith that it WILL ship at some point in time, based on the people and number of them involved. It might also help that I already have too many keyboards and am not in any real need for it I suppose, and thus not desperately waiting.

I feel more sorry for the 30+ people who are waiting to buy half my order. I decided to postpone actually selling it until I have actually received it, and they seem far more anxious.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:23:49
WFD said he purchased most of the stabilizers already, why would we write him off? Is it because the wires would still be needed? Someone else could get the wires handled, we really just need to get the stabilizers shipped to someone ASAP. If WFD needs some money for shipping or something then I'd be willing to chip in.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:25:30
I got into this with the expectation that it would be severely delayed. No offense to anyone, but this is sort of regular around here. It ought not to have to be like this, but it often is and I guess this is why I am not even slightly disappointed. Go into it with no expectations and you can't be let down. That sounded way more depressing than I intended.

What I mean is that it will just be a happy surprise once it does ship and you forgot about it. I guess I have strong faith that it WILL ship at some point in time, based on the people and number of them involved. It might also help that I already have too many keyboards and am not in any real need for it I suppose, and thus not desperately waiting.

I feel more sorry for the 30+ people who are waiting to buy half my order. I decided to postpone actually selling it until I have actually received it, and they seem far more anxious.

so when i throw $250 at a group buy of hard earned money i'm supposed to go into it with low expectations?  :-\ After like a dozen combined 60% case group buys or vendor sales (mk) with the specific intention to use with the GH60 collecting dust?

maybe all of geekhack is to blame for pressuring this go to group buy before the PCB was even finished.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:39:36
So the PCBs that were shipped at the end of March by Komar to TJ, have they arrived? 2 months seems like a reasonable amount of time for shipping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 10 June 2014, 16:41:11
so when i throw $250 at a group buy of hard earned money i'm supposed to go into it with low expectations?  :-\ After like a dozen combined 60% case group buys or vendor sales (mk) with the specific intention to use with the GH60 collecting dust?

maybe all of geekhack is to blame for pressuring this go to group buy before the PCB was even finished.

I know where you're coming from and I share your frustration. For that reason, I almost didn't reply. I get where you're coming from and it's reasonable to be irked that we seem to be in a holding pattern. I feel exactly the same way you do.

That being said, comparing this GB to a cases GB is not a fair comparison and to compare this GB to purchases from MK is absurd.

This GB had a lot of moving parts to it and being that it's a community project, some delays are inevitable. The fact that this is a first version board only increases the opportunity for delays. It is what it is. And what is it? A soap opera, a fluster cluck? Eh, a little of column A and little of column B.   :))

Do I wish that this GB had been completed faster. Yes. No doubt. However, I'd rather wait to get the final version of the board that Komar has gone over with a fine tooth comb and I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. Additional delays of plates and stabs may be salt in the wound, but at least we're not having to go through Profosist to resolve things. Am I rite?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 10 June 2014, 17:06:57
So the PCBs that were shipped at the end of March by Komar to TJ, have they arrived? 2 months seems like a reasonable amount of time for shipping.

I'll have to let TJ answer that question.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 11 June 2014, 04:40:35
So the PCBs that were shipped at the end of March by Komar to TJ, have they arrived? 2 months seems like a reasonable amount of time for shipping.

Well that's more than a little concerning if they haven't
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 11 June 2014, 04:59:14
I've had most of the stabilizers since last summer. I have relocated since then, so they're still in storage boxes, but nevertheless I have them in hand. The custom wires are to be CNC'd, those have not been ordered yet. I just have to find the contact info for the company again. Having them made this way was not the cheapest option, but it was the quickest. It takes 10-15min for me to hand make each, and I'm not going to spend the time to be making hundreds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:31:55
WhiteFireDragon, is it too late to add a few more wires to my order?  Totally understand if it is.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 11 June 2014, 07:36:46
I'm still waiting on money for the plates. If I get the money for them before the end of this week. I could have them to TJ before next weekend (Thursday/Friday-ish).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ullr on Wed, 11 June 2014, 12:26:00
Obviously I am quite late, too late to participate in the group buy, but I've discovered after the dust settled that this keyboard poses my biggest opportunity to get a keyboard with my ideal physical layout as well as being able to program it. Will I be able to pick up parts after the fact, specifically a soldered PCB, and a Universal ANSI plate?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: madderoftime on Wed, 11 June 2014, 12:35:33
Obviously I am quite late, too late to participate in the group buy, but I've discovered after the dust settled that this keyboard poses my biggest opportunity to get a keyboard with my ideal physical layout as well as being able to program it. Will I be able to pick up parts after the fact, specifically a soldered PCB, and a Universal ANSI plate?


Perhaps check classifieds after they are received. I'm sure there will be some to choose from.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 12 June 2014, 04:04:41
I'm still waiting on money for the plates. If I get the money for them before the end of this week. I could have them to TJ before next weekend (Thursday/Friday-ish).


Someone pay this man!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 12 June 2014, 06:33:47
ok let's say I give up on stabilizers and even the plates and gift that part of my order to the organizers... would I get the PCBs sooner?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 12 June 2014, 06:59:17
ok let's say I give up on stabilizers and even the plates and gift that part of my order to the organizers... would I get the PCBs sooner?

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 12 June 2014, 07:04:25
I should have seen that coming.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 12 June 2014, 09:41:14
ok let's say I give up on stabilizers and even the plates and gift that part of my order to the organizers... would I get the PCBs sooner?

The funny thing is I now have plenty of stabilizers and plates and have just needed 60% PCBs for ages and at this point would just be happy to get my PCBs. I've been slumming it with a Pure PCB and recently acquired a 38GT to hold me over, but GH60 supports more bottom layouts.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 12 June 2014, 09:51:08
Maybe they need to start selling the parts we don't want to get money to send us the parts we do want.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 12 June 2014, 09:59:19
Maybe they need to start selling the parts we don't want to get money to send us the parts we do want.

I'm all for them just shipping the PCBs and plates and refunding the stabilizer money.  Hell, I'll even bend stabilizer wires for people at cost if it gets me my **** soon.  This GB has passed the point of ridiculousness.

Maybe we need to start a rule with GBs: Don't take money if you can't start shipping within 3-6 months. I should be getting interest on my money at this point.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pasph on Thu, 12 June 2014, 13:15:48
I'll do nothing with just the pcb
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tgujay on Thu, 12 June 2014, 13:15:51
Maybe they need to start selling the parts we don't want to get money to send us the parts we do want.

I'm all for them just shipping the PCBs and plates and refunding the stabilizer money.  Hell, I'll even bend stabilizer wires for people at cost if it gets me my **** soon.  This GB has passed the point of ridiculousness.

Maybe we need to start a rule with GBs: Don't take money if you can't start shipping within 3-6 months. I should be getting interest on my money at this point.

Preach it nubs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 12 June 2014, 13:37:41
Maybe they need to start selling the parts we don't want to get money to send us the parts we do want.

I'm all for them just shipping the PCBs and plates and refunding the stabilizer money.  Hell, I'll even bend stabilizer wires for people at cost if it gets me my **** soon.  This GB has passed the point of ridiculousness.

Maybe we need to start a rule with GBs: Don't take money if you can't start shipping within 3-6 months. I should be getting interest on my money at this point.

i like that rule and like i said earlier thanks to other options now available or coming soon the value of the GH60 has depreciated. everyone lost money with this GB even with delivery of the goods (with no ETA still now)

TJ you need to come back and explain the status, please. are the PCB's lost or not.



Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 June 2014, 14:00:53
Maybe they need to start selling the parts we don't want to get money to send us the parts we do want.

I'm all for them just shipping the PCBs and plates and refunding the stabilizer money.  Hell, I'll even bend stabilizer wires for people at cost if it gets me my **** soon.  This GB has passed the point of ridiculousness.

Maybe we need to start a rule with GBs: Don't take money if you can't start shipping within 3-6 months. I should be getting interest on my money at this point.

i like that rule and like i said earlier thanks to other options now available or coming soon the value of the GH60 has depreciated. everyone lost money with this GB even with delivery of the goods (with no ETA still now)

TJ you need to come back and explain the status, please. are the PCB's lost or not.





Who said anything about PCBs being lost? Please don't spread FUD in this thread, Glod.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 12 June 2014, 16:04:34
Can someone please get tj to post a status update in here?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 June 2014, 16:15:25
Can someone please get tj to post a status update in here?

He and komar have the PCBs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 13 June 2014, 03:12:23
Maybe we need to start a rule with GBs: Don't take money if you can't start shipping within 3-6 months. I should be getting interest on my money at this point.

I think that's a great idea - I can't see it ever being implemented mind but I would love it if it was.  I can understand that a big gb like this might take a few months, perhaps 6 months but am truly astounded that the payment deadline was a year ago (well 50 weeks ago) and the best response that we're getting is "X has this component and Y has that component" with no indication on what that means for shipping or any real indication as to when we'll finally get what we paid for a year ago.  For all I know it'll be another year before we get these...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tbc on Fri, 13 June 2014, 04:00:33
Maybe we need to start a rule with GBs: Don't take money if you can't start shipping within 3-6 months. I should be getting interest on my money at this point.

I think that's a great idea - I can't see it ever being implemented mind but I would love it if it was.  I can understand that a big gb like this might take a few months, perhaps 6 months but am truly astounded that the payment deadline was a year ago (well 50 weeks ago) and the best response that we're getting is "X has this component and Y has that component" with no indication on what that means for shipping or any real indication as to when we'll finally get what we paid for a year ago.  For all I know it'll be another year before we get these...

seems like the problem is actually BIG gbs in the first place.

given a set number of volunteers and a maximum number of hours per volunteer, there WILL be a point where the gb can't be completed reasonably.

this gb was about as complex as a gb can get AND huge at the same time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: bueller on Fri, 13 June 2014, 04:22:08
Maybe we need to start a rule with GBs: Don't take money if you can't start shipping within 3-6 months. I should be getting interest on my money at this point.

I think that's a great idea - I can't see it ever being implemented mind but I would love it if it was.  I can understand that a big gb like this might take a few months, perhaps 6 months but am truly astounded that the payment deadline was a year ago (well 50 weeks ago) and the best response that we're getting is "X has this component and Y has that component" with no indication on what that means for shipping or any real indication as to when we'll finally get what we paid for a year ago.  For all I know it'll be another year before we get these...

seems like the problem is actually BIG gbs in the first place.

given a set number of volunteers and a maximum number of hours per volunteer, there WILL be a point where the gb can't be completed reasonably.

this gb was about as complex as a gb can get AND huge at the same time.

Yeah to be honest the size of some GB's is what has put me off ever running one previously. I have the capabilities to cut stainless plates quite cheaply but I'd never want to run more than 10 because it would become an ordeal to organise.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 13 June 2014, 04:32:37
Maybe we need to start a rule with GBs: Don't take money if you can't start shipping within 3-6 months. I should be getting interest on my money at this point.

I think that's a great idea - I can't see it ever being implemented mind but I would love it if it was.  I can understand that a big gb like this might take a few months, perhaps 6 months but am truly astounded that the payment deadline was a year ago (well 50 weeks ago) and the best response that we're getting is "X has this component and Y has that component" with no indication on what that means for shipping or any real indication as to when we'll finally get what we paid for a year ago.  For all I know it'll be another year before we get these...

seems like the problem is actually BIG gbs in the first place.

given a set number of volunteers and a maximum number of hours per volunteer, there WILL be a point where the gb can't be completed reasonably.

this gb was about as complex as a gb can get AND huge at the same time.

Yeah to be honest the size of some GB's is what has put me off ever running one previously. I have the capabilities to cut stainless plates quite cheaply but I'd never want to run more than 10 because it would become an ordeal to organise.

Same here - I've run mini gb's to the UK before (< 10 people) and that was enough work for me!  I think that with this gb all along there's been a total lack of transparency which, in my opinion, with a buy that's worth thousands of dollars (tens of thousands of dollars?) is absolutely crucial. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 13 June 2014, 09:57:20
Can someone please get tj to post a status update in here?

He and komar have the PCBs.

He needs to transfer funds for the plates also...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:06:11
Can someone please get tj to post a status update in here?

He and komar have the PCBs.

He needs to transfer funds for the plates also...

With all due respect, sir, I think we know exactly what needs to be done to complete our group buy.

I realize everyone is frustrated with the length of this group buy at this point, not the least of whom are the organizers. We are doing what we can with the limited time we have available to devote to a hobby. Please bear with us a little longer, and everyone will take delivery on what they ordered. The scope of this group buy is way more than any of us thought it would be. I've been posting updates, and will continue to do so. We are doing the best we can, and everyone needs to understand that we don't intend to run off with anyone's money and not deliver a final product. Yes, mistakes were made, but we are dealing with that as best we can.

Further discussion of proposed "rules" for group buys does not belong in this thread. Feel free to start your own thread elsewhere.

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:10:16
I was proposing to give up on the stabs to ease organizers' work, but really, take the time you need. As long as the thread is updated I don't feel abandoned.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:55:04
I was proposing to give up on the stabs to ease organizers' work, but really, take the time you need. As long as the thread is updated I don't feel abandoned.

Ditto.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 13 June 2014, 11:54:44
I was proposing to give up on the stabs to ease organizers' work, but really, take the time you need. As long as the thread is updated I don't feel abandoned.

Ditto.

^Yep
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 13 June 2014, 16:59:49
Come at me angry mob  ;D(http://wiki.wodgotham.com/images/7/71/Full_Riot_Gear.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 13 June 2014, 17:37:56
Come at me angry mob  ;D
Show Image
(http://wiki.wodgotham.com/images/7/71/Full_Riot_Gear.jpg)


Crotch shots it is.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 13 June 2014, 19:25:27
Come at me angry mob  ;D
Show Image
(http://wiki.wodgotham.com/images/7/71/Full_Riot_Gear.jpg)


Crotch shots it is.
Damnit!!! BRB
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tywtyw2002 on Sun, 15 June 2014, 02:16:41
I saw the order link is closed, so where can i order a GH60 PCBs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Broadmonkey on Sun, 15 June 2014, 04:11:50
You can't, that is why the order link is closed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tricheboars on Sun, 15 June 2014, 16:40:45
(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/cookie_monster_waiting.gif)
(http://media0.giphy.com/media/86Ru4rNYwgnok/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Wed, 18 June 2014, 08:55:27
... I'm still waiting on money for the plates. ...


So... this is the most disturbing and revealing statement in the entire thread.

I'm shocked that no one else even mentioned it after it was stated.

Guy steps up and saves the day with plates...

2-3 months later, he still hasn't been given the money to retrieve them.

I just... i don't even know what to say.

Can i say "cluster****" now?

Well i just did, and i'm going to keep saying it until i have either a GH60 in my hands, or a refund. Actually, no, i'm going to call it a cluster**** either way.

Because that's exactly what it is.


Let me ask you guys something:

How much is your TIME worth?

Now, how much is my time worth, to you?

It seems as though some of you believe your own personal time is more important than the however many hundreds of people's time is being wasted by inefficient and downright lazy handling of certain aspects of this GB.

Right after the mention of "as long as the thread is updated, we won't feel abandoned," boom, thread is a ghost town, and the few of us who still give a ****, are left staring at the date of the last post, counting how many days it's been since anything usefully informative has been stated.

And what was the last important update?

See quote above. "i'm still waiting on money for the plates"

Definitely can't fault him for that! It's not like we can demand he "wait harder!" to make someone else get in gear faster... if it were that simple, we would have collectively manifested the GH60 with our geek hive-mind by now. I wonder how many hours have been lost by how many people, over the last year, staring at this thread while it moves ever so slightly faster than frozen molasses... and somehow still manages to be faster than the actual item being produced.

At this moment, i would certainly prefer to have the money instead of the promise. Dollars are almost always better than promises. "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush."
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: bueller on Wed, 18 June 2014, 09:00:18
... I'm still waiting on money for the plates. ...


So... this is the most disturbing and revealing statement in the entire thread.

I'm shocked that no one else even mentioned it after it was stated.

Guy steps up and saves the day with plates...

2-3 months later, he still hasn't been given the money to retrieve them.

I just... i don't even know what to say.

Can i say "cluster****" now?

Well i just did, and i'm going to keep saying it until i have either a GH60 in my hands, or a refund. Actually, no, i'm going to call it a cluster**** either way.

Because that's exactly what it is.


Let me ask you guys something:

How much is your TIME worth?

Now, how much is my time worth, to you?

It seems as though some of you believe your own personal time is more important than the however many hundreds of people's time is being wasted by inefficient and downright lazy handling of certain aspects of this GB.

Right after the mention of "as long as the thread is updated, we won't feel abandoned," boom, thread is a ghost town, and the few of us who still give a ****, are left staring at the date of the last post, counting how many days it's been since anything usefully informative has been stated.

And what was the last important update?

See quote above. "i'm still waiting on money for the plates"

Definitely can't fault him for that! It's not like we can demand he "wait harder!" to make someone else get in gear faster... if it were that simple, we would have collectively manifested the GH60 with our geek hive-mind by now. I wonder how many hours have been lost by how many people, over the last year, staring at this thread while it moves ever so slightly faster than frozen molasses... and somehow still manages to be faster than the actual item being produced.

At this moment, i would certainly prefer to have the money instead of the promise. Dollars are almost always better than promises. "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush."

Honestly I'd be just as pissed as you are, I bought a GH60 PCB off Taobao LAST. YEAR. 6 months I've had the PCB that you guys paid to engineer and you're all still waiting. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 18 June 2014, 09:29:20
Honestly I'd be just as pissed as you are, I bought a GH60 PCB off Taobao LAST. YEAR. 6 months I've had the PCB that you guys paid to engineer and you're all still waiting. Unbelievable.

Yup, it's ****ing ridiculous.  At this point, it's been just 10 days short of a year and a month since my money was taken.  It's why I said my two cents that group buys shouldn't take money unless they're looking to ship in 3-6 months.  I know some of the insanity that goes along with a group buy, but it really does feel like it's a bunch of people going "it's not my problem" right now. Just get the **** together and ship it out.  You have the PCBs, you have the plates, we've heard that the switches are good to go, supposedly only stabilizers are missing. Ship out what you have and give the option of either refunding the stabilizer money or ship them out at a later date.

We've already had the Hammer case GB run and ship, multiple other successful 60% case GBs, we are now on the second round of Imsto anodized 60% plates, and even Sprit is shipping his FaceW and giving almost daily updates and input in his thread while this thread remains almost dead silent from the people who have our stuff.  Instead we're told to be patient.

At what point should patience run out?  I think a year after payment with a very poor update record is a fair time frame to run out of patience.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 18 June 2014, 10:18:07
Most of my frustration regarding this buy is the lack of updates with clear information. It seems like everyone has no idea what the other people involved in this are doing and there is no clear showrunner here. Yes, it is a cluster****.
I also don't appreciate waiting excessive amounts of time for components to arrive that I didn't even order. I DON'T GIVE A **** ABOUT IT! Send me my PCBs already!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: boost on Wed, 18 June 2014, 10:26:29
I also don't appreciate waiting excessive amounts of time for components to arrive that I didn't even order. I DON'T GIVE A **** ABOUT IT! Send me my PCBs already!

THIS^^...For those who just ordered the PCB, CAN WE HAS NOW! -__-
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 10:30:46
...there is no clear showrunner here.

See the OP of this thread for the name of the person who was supposed to be running this show.


FYI, my involvement at this point is pretty minimal. I just try to post updates here if and when I have new information. TJ and komar have taken over the logistics of the GB since a while ago.

UPDATE: Nothing new to report.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 18 June 2014, 11:30:39
That is what I mean... WFD went MIA and dropped the ball as this buys showrunner... someone else in this team could have and should have stepped up and picked that up and kept things moving... or WFD should have found someone else that could have. Since they went MIA they just left it all in limbo for months and seemingly left the rest of you in the dark at least somewhat.
I mostly just want to know who is in possession of what right now, and when are we going to start seeing things in our mailboxes. Those of you who are involved in this buy need to get communicating and get things on track.
If you need help... I am available to do anything I can.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Broadmonkey on Wed, 18 June 2014, 11:48:21
I also don't appreciate waiting excessive amounts of time for components to arrive that I didn't even order. I DON'T GIVE A **** ABOUT IT! Send me my PCBs already!

THIS^^...For those who just ordered the PCB, CAN WE HAS NOW! -__-

I don't think you guys will get an answer. The person who supposedly has our PCBs has been missing from this thread for more 11 months now (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg960983#msg960983) (that is at least the earliest I could find, I hope I am wrong).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 18 June 2014, 11:55:06
Okay guys, so a status update:
The PCBs have been produced and the US/Canada part is being shipped to tjcaustin. imsto's package is on its way too, directly from China.
The plates have been ordered, and they should take another week to finish production, according to ApocalypseMaow.
According to that TJ should have the PCB for quite some time? Unless TJ send them all to WFD for some reason... I don't think WFD has anything to do with it anymore? TJ has posted on the forum in the last few days so....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 18 June 2014, 12:03:17
Yes, TJ has half of the PCBs, and the other half is waiting in China. I will get this half shipped to myself once I know the plates are ready to be sent to me, so no worries here. I was responsible for the production of PCBs and part of distribution. The PCBs are produced, and distribution on my side can't start before I receive the stuff I wasn't responsible for.
I hope you understand that I won't take responsibility for purchases and money transfers which are already being handled thousands of kilometers away from myself. I'm as sad as you are not having my GH60s and being unable to test the LED module which is sitting on my desk waiting and I have also paid for stuff I haven't received yet.
I have already organized some help with the non-US non-Canada distribution to get things shipped faster and I'll be considering sending stuff without stabs first if they don't come early enough.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 18 June 2014, 12:08:05
sorry what is the problem with the plates? If you needed it I can have them cut in Europe at a very low cost and in just 5 days.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 18 June 2014, 12:09:43
You guys should create a google doc that all of you can edit. Then put your contact information in it, and what each current step is, and the next step. Try your best to put estimated time to complete each step. Then anyone can post updates here based off of the available information.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: boost on Wed, 18 June 2014, 13:22:20
gh60less :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 June 2014, 13:26:31
sorry what is the problem with the plates? If you needed it I can have them cut in Europe at a very low cost and in just 5 days.

I'm still waiting on money for the plates. If I get the money for them before the end of this week. I could have them to TJ before next weekend (Thursday/Friday-ish).


$$$$$$$  :-\
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Lubed Up Slug on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:10:01
You guys should create a google doc that all of you can edit. Then put your contact information in it, and what each current step is, and the next step. Try your best to put estimated time to complete each step. Then anyone can post updates here based off of the available information.

This.  I think that people want to have clear written info on where the GB is right now.  I'm not even a part of this gb, but it is impossible to find out anything on the status of it right now.  Instead of trying to piece together what is happening by sifting through a bunch of pages of posts, people should have one place where they can look and see how their money is being used and when they will get what they payed for.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:12:55
You guys should create a google doc that all of you can edit. Then put your contact information in it, and what each current step is, and the next step. Try your best to put estimated time to complete each step. Then anyone can post updates here based off of the available information.

This.  I think that people want to have clear written info on where the GB is right now.  I'm not even a part of this gb, but it is impossible to find out anything on the status of it right now.  Instead of trying to piece together what is happening by sifting through a bunch of pages of posts, people should have one place where they can look and see how their money is being used and when they will get what they payed for.

From the OP:

Current status of the Group Buy
PCBs: In production
Plates: In production
Switches: On hand
Stabilizers: Looking for source...
Assembly: to be completed by tjcaustin and komar007 once all components are received
Shipping: Not started


From komar007:

Yes, TJ has half of the PCBs, and the other half is waiting in China.

So, I don't think you have to "sift through a bunch of pages of posts" when the info is in the OP.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Lubed Up Slug on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:26:29
You guys should create a google doc that all of you can edit. Then put your contact information in it, and what each current step is, and the next step. Try your best to put estimated time to complete each step. Then anyone can post updates here based off of the available information.

This.  I think that people want to have clear written info on where the GB is right now.  I'm not even a part of this gb, but it is impossible to find out anything on the status of it right now.  Instead of trying to piece together what is happening by sifting through a bunch of pages of posts, people should have one place where they can look and see how their money is being used and when they will get what they payed for.

From the OP:

Current status of the Group Buy
PCBs: In production
Plates: In production
Switches: On hand
Stabilizers: Looking for source...
Assembly: to be completed by tjcaustin and komar007 once all components are received
Shipping: Not started


From komar007:

Yes, TJ has half of the PCBs, and the other half is waiting in China.

So, I don't think you have to "sift through a bunch of pages of posts" when the info is in the OP.

That's not quite the same as what danielucf mentioned.  But yes I see now that you updated the OP, and yes komar's post was informative, my bad.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:43:50

From the OP:

Current status of the Group Buy
PCBs: In production
Plates: In production
Switches: On hand
Stabilizers: Looking for source...
Assembly: to be completed by tjcaustin and komar007 once all components are received
Shipping: Not started


That info is not current though.  We know PCBs are done, we know plates are done.  We just have no stabs, no updates at all on stab status for that matter aside from everyone is out of costar stabs and maybe someday we'll order Cherry stabs, and no updates with a clear timeline.

I want a clear timeline for shipping.  I also don't think the request to ship PCB and or PCB and plate only orders is unreasonable, nor is the stab refund and ship request.

We need clear timeliness and to be told what is happening instead of being jerked around and told to be patient more than a year after money was collected.  I understand others took over for this after WFD backed out and went AWOL, but it's not being handled in a way that respects those that put their trust and money into the buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:47:04
That info is not current though.  We know PCBs are done, we know plates are done.

To me, if the plates are still sitting at the manufacturer, and not in the hands of one of the people responsible for shipping orders, that means "in production." Same with half the PCBs that are sitting in China.

How is that not current?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:53:54
I think people want something more like this:

Current status of the Group Buy
PCBs: produced - 1/2 with TJ and 1/2 with IMSTO
Plates: produced - waiting for payment to get picked up
Switches: On hand
Stabilizers: WFD has everything but the wires.  current status unknown...
Assembly: to be completed by tjcaustin and komar007 once all components are received
Shipping: Not started

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:57:36
So am I safe in assuming TJ has all of the money? I know he is a busy guy making cables and all that but if he could chime in here that'd be great to.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 18 June 2014, 15:59:07
I think people want something more like this:

Current status of the Group Buy
PCBs: produced - 1/2 with TJ and 1/2 with IMSTO
Plates: produced - waiting for payment to get picked up
Switches: On hand
Stabilizers: WFD has everything but the wires.  current status unknown...
Assembly: to be completed by tjcaustin and komar007 once all components are received
Shipping: Not started


Exactly.  Give us specifics of what is being fine/where things are and a working timeline instead of vague "updates" that say nothing about the status. 

It's not like we're asking for anything difficult.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 18 June 2014, 16:13:12
Unfortunately, the people with the answers are not the people that are responding in this thread.

WFD or TJCaustin, please take the stage.  ;D

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SomS17yteWA/TZ4NOqHSaEI/AAAAAAAABv4/nXfZl6TgS9k/s1600/angry-mob.JPG)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 19 June 2014, 02:08:28
Trying to get ACC to take direct payment so we don't have to shift 5G through bank/paypal/paypal/bank.

Put down your torch and cross your fingers already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 19 June 2014, 03:31:34
Are the plates actually produced but the supplier is waiting on payment? 

To try and reduce my stress levels regarding this buy I've only started checking this thread about once a week...  It's not like I'm going to miss anything really is it...

Edit:  I presume that ACC is the manufacturer?

Edit 2: A quick google discovers Aqua Contour Cutting in AR so I guess so.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:22:19
Show Image
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SomS17yteWA/TZ4NOqHSaEI/AAAAAAAABv4/nXfZl6TgS9k/s1600/angry-mob.JPG)


that's the magnifying glass episode right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:38:04
Are the plates actually produced but the supplier is waiting on payment? 

To try and reduce my stress levels regarding this buy I've only started checking this thread about once a week...  It's not like I'm going to miss anything really is it...

Edit:  I presume that ACC is the manufacturer?

Edit 2: A quick google discovers Aqua Contour Cutting in AR so I guess so.
Yeah, they originally gave me a due date of May 1st to have the plates finished. That was great because I started the outage may 11th, which is 6 12hour days a week.
That didn't work out. They didn't finish the plates till sometime around the start of the outage. At that point it was outta my hands.

So now we are here, trying to get payment to them some other way. PayPal is a real bear when it comes to transferring 5 grand :/
Currently waiting to hear back from ACC about other payment options...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 19 June 2014, 12:40:06
They won't take a direct wire transfer? Wire seems to be a pretty normal option with manufacturers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 19 June 2014, 17:41:15
They won't take a direct wire transfer? Wire seems to be a pretty normal option with manufacturers.
Yeah, you would think in 2014... He wants cash or check and not an outta town one.  This is Arkansas though lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 19 June 2014, 19:02:55
Wire transfer is same as cash really, certainly a lot more secure than a check! If they have a bank account this shouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 20 June 2014, 04:00:57
Wire transfer is same as cash really, certainly a lot more secure than a check! If they have a bank account this shouldn't be an issue.
Same thoughts here, but it's not up to me. All I can do is pay the man by one of those two.
Believe when I tell you, I want this done as bad as anyone. Hell, why do you think I volunteered to get the plates made!
I've got right at $600 in this GB and I can wait to get what I payed for, just like the rest of you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Signature on Fri, 20 June 2014, 07:42:38
Show Image
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SomS17yteWA/TZ4NOqHSaEI/AAAAAAAABv4/nXfZl6TgS9k/s1600/angry-mob.JPG)


that's the magnifying glass episode right?
I Think it's from the movie but I'm not sure
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 20 June 2014, 08:00:03
Thanks for the update ApocalypseMaow and for all your hard work in helping to get this GB over the finish line.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 20 June 2014, 08:58:43
Thanks for the update ApocalypseMaow and for all your hard work in helping to get this GB over the finish line.  :thumb:

Seconded. It's nice to have one person give updates.  Now we just need TJ to step in and give us a timeline.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: boost on Fri, 20 June 2014, 09:29:34
maybe we'll get the GH60 in 2015 or nothing...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 20 June 2014, 21:26:09
maybe we'll get the GH60 in 2015 or nothing...

Did Profosist take over the GB?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Sat, 21 June 2014, 05:56:47
maybe we'll get the GH60 in 2015 or nothing...

Did Profosist take over the GB?


Deserves at least one 'lol'.

And: i sure hope not! I haven't seen that guy since the salem ergodox witch trials.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 21 June 2014, 08:16:02
Now we just need TJ to step in and give us a timeline.

This...  He seems to have all our money (well what's left of it) - I for one would like to know what he's up to with it...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 26 June 2014, 02:49:31
I've been informed payment for the plates will be in PayPal tomorrow.

edit: It's been transferred and now waiting for 3 to 5 business days to clear.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 26 June 2014, 04:53:37
Oooh - progress :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 26 June 2014, 05:05:53
fair enough. we are good for the next 3 weeks :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ninjadoc on Thu, 26 June 2014, 05:16:03
They won't take a direct wire transfer? Wire seems to be a pretty normal option with manufacturers.
Yeah, you would think in 2014... He wants cash or check and not an outta town one.  This is Arkansas though lol

Yep, that surprises me not at all! Check!? I don't want no out of town check! I don't know you boy, give me some real Arkansas money. :) no offense meant to you ApocalypseMaow, I grew up there and left at age 27 - I know how it used to be and it hasn't changed much.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 26 June 2014, 05:40:11
They won't take a direct wire transfer? Wire seems to be a pretty normal option with manufacturers.
Yeah, you would think in 2014... He wants cash or check and not an outta town one.  This is Arkansas though lol

Yep, that surprises me not at all! Check!? I don't want no out of town check! I don't know you boy, give me some real Arkansas money. :) no offense meant to you ApocalypseMaow, I grew up there and left at age 27 - I know how it used to be and it hasn't changed much.
yep. hell, there are places in town where it's just a hand shake instead of a signature...

by the way, I'm off work till Monday night. what are you gonna be up to?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 26 June 2014, 06:07:09
Even though the excitement has been diluted with delays, still exciting to see progress :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Thu, 26 June 2014, 14:13:27
I've been informed payment for the plates will be in PayPal tomorrow.

edit: It's been transferred and now waiting for 3 to 5 business days to clear.


Fantastic. Thank you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 26 June 2014, 14:47:15
fair enough. we are good for the next 3 weeks :)

I'd still like to see an official timeline from TJ. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 26 June 2014, 14:52:51
fair enough. we are good for the next 3 weeks :)

I'd still like to see an official timeline from TJ.

I would as well
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: thegagne on Fri, 27 June 2014, 12:11:16
With plates being in process - is there any update on the situation with the stabs? What's the plan there?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 27 June 2014, 12:31:11
With plates being in process - is there any update on the situation with the stabs? What's the plan there?
Plates are done son.

Ok, So TJ sent the funds but PayPal won't clear them till around the 1st - 3rd. Either way I know the money will be there.
So instead of waiting, I went and withdrew my personal funds to speed this up and to get ACC's money hounds off my butt  :p

NOW, I still have to get these to TJ but we are getting oh so close and I'm glad.

I'm not a fan of being responsible... So sue me  ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/2lzG2r0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/a6rTX58.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/OZQI2Pm.jpg)
Flipside fools
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tjweir on Fri, 27 June 2014, 12:33:06
With plates being in process - is there any update on the situation with the stabs? What's the plan there?
Plates are done son.

Ok, So TJ sent the funds but PayPal won't clear them till around the 1st - 3rd. Either way I know the money will be there.
So instead of waiting, I went and withdrew my personal funds to speed this up and to get ACC's money hounds off my butt  :p

NOW, I still have to get these to TJ but we are getting oh so close and I'm glad.

I'm not a fan of being responsible... So sue me  ;D
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2lzG2r0.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/a6rTX58.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OZQI2Pm.jpg)

Flipside fools

NICE!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HannibalChew on Fri, 27 June 2014, 12:34:54
With plates being in process - is there any update on the situation with the stabs? What's the plan there?
Plates are done son.

Ok, So TJ sent the funds but PayPal won't clear them till around the 1st - 3rd. Either way I know the money will be there.
So instead of waiting, I went and withdrew my personal funds to speed this up and to get ACC's money hounds off my butt  :p

NOW, I still have to get these to TJ but we are getting oh so close and I'm glad.

I'm not a fan of being responsible... So sue me  ;D
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2lzG2r0.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/a6rTX58.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OZQI2Pm.jpg)

Flipside fools

WOO!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dsan on Fri, 27 June 2014, 12:36:14
With plates being in process - is there any update on the situation with the stabs? What's the plan there?
Plates are done son.

Ok, So TJ sent the funds but PayPal won't clear them till around the 1st - 3rd. Either way I know the money will be there.
So instead of waiting, I went and withdrew my personal funds to speed this up and to get ACC's money hounds off my butt  :p

NOW, I still have to get these to TJ but we are getting oh so close and I'm glad.

I'm not a fan of being responsible... So sue me  ;D
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2lzG2r0.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/a6rTX58.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/OZQI2Pm.jpg)

Flipside fools

Wow,thank you! :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 27 June 2014, 12:36:37
dat invoice... lol

Thank you ApocalypseMaow for essentially showing the first "proof of life" photograph this group has had since rev2 of the PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 27 June 2014, 12:46:18
(http://media.tumblr.com/21136af7b83863dd7b7e1f3b8fb9db1b/tumblr_mq1i97c1Vy1szdo96o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tjweir on Fri, 27 June 2014, 12:49:26
My 2 x Samwise layouts, it's happppppppening!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 27 June 2014, 13:05:18
Yes!  PCBs made, plates made - that's all I've ordered :D  Happy days :)

I see a Universal ANSI plate there :)  (actually wish I'd ordered a Poker ISO tbh but there you go...  Unless anyone wants to sell me one :p)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mauri on Fri, 27 June 2014, 13:12:26
(http://i.imgur.com/mTYKYHR.gif)

ooOoOOOoO gimme gimme gimme
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 27 June 2014, 13:33:27
(http://i.imgur.com/Jdvdr.gif)

You da man!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 27 June 2014, 13:43:01
Thanks ApocalypseMaow, you've been fantastic about getting **** done quickly and keeping us updated.  If only everyone else involved was that way. 

Still, TJ, could you give us a timeline? We know everything is made, so it would be nice to know an expected ship date.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Hzza on Fri, 27 June 2014, 14:22:44
Yes!  PCBs made, plates made - that's all I've ordered :D  Happy days :)

I see a Universal ANSI plate there :)  (actually wish I'd ordered a Poker ISO tbh but there you go...  Unless anyone wants to sell me one :p)


Pretty sure I've either got a 1.25 ISO or a ISO universal plate spare, drop me a message a bit nearer the time and I'll hook you up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 27 June 2014, 14:23:31
Yes!  PCBs made, plates made - that's all I've ordered :D  Happy days :)

I see a Universal ANSI plate there :)  (actually wish I'd ordered a Poker ISO tbh but there you go...  Unless anyone wants to sell me one :p)


Pretty sure I've either got a 1.25 ISO or a ISO universal plate spare, drop me a message a bit nearer the time and I'll hook you up.

That'd be awesome :)

Cheers bud :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 27 June 2014, 17:06:55
Exciting times. I wonder what switch plates I'm going to end up with. Requested a change and never heard anything back  :-X

Chances are I'm just going to sell/give away the plates anyways so who cares  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pexon on Fri, 27 June 2014, 17:22:34
WOOP! If stabs are still an issue, would there at all be a possibility that we could choose to have our order shipped without them?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 June 2014, 17:26:44
WOOP! If stabs are still an issue, would there at all be a possibility that we could choose to have our order shipped without them?

That's probably the most likely scenario.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pexon on Fri, 27 June 2014, 17:27:31
WOOP! If stabs are still an issue, would there at all be a possibility that we could choose to have our order shipped without them?

That's probably the most likely scenario.

OK, that sounds good to me then  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 27 June 2014, 18:01:40
WOOP! If stabs are still an issue, would there at all be a possibility that we could choose to have our order shipped without them?

That's probably the most likely scenario.

It would be nice to get an official answer since I know that that question has been asked several times without any response.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 27 June 2014, 18:26:49
Thanks ApocalypseMaow, you've been fantastic about grab assing and keeping us updated on your grab assing. 
FTFY  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: thegagne on Fri, 27 June 2014, 19:24:38
Exciting times. I wonder what switch plates I'm going to end up with. Requested a change and never heard anything back  :-X

Chances are I'm just going to sell/give away the plates anyways so who cares  :p

dibs... didn't order plate and may want one...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: n0rvig on Fri, 27 June 2014, 19:43:12
Yahoo!! Progress!! Yay!!  ..just pushgrab ass a little bit more!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: luisbg on Fri, 27 June 2014, 19:48:14
Soon very soon, I will get into custom boards. And I blame GH for that!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 28 June 2014, 09:01:26
will have to source stabs ourselves, what of the money it cost for them?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mauri on Sun, 29 June 2014, 06:19:07
will have to source stabs ourselves, what of the money it cost for them?

Most people here prolly would rather forfeit the money if it meant speeding up the process. That being said I'm not one of those people.

Shipping out rest of the stuff without the stabs would mean more posting costs, no?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 29 June 2014, 07:56:21
SHIP what you have! stabs money to the organizers!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pasph on Sun, 29 June 2014, 08:10:40
I don't want that my stabs money goes to WFD...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pexon on Sun, 29 June 2014, 08:27:39
Stabs money to Nates foundation?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Sun, 29 June 2014, 08:57:35
From WFDs last post, he has all the stabs but is missing wires. We should try to get him to ship what he has to someone who is doing the shipping. There is a better chance that we find/make wires if that is all we need. If the money for the stabs is spent (or some anyway) we should at least get the pieces that have been purchased already. Ya? Wires we can make if we have to.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Jmneuv on Sun, 29 June 2014, 09:27:13
All stabs funds combined is quite a bit of money.. i wouldn't want to see that swept under the rug. Also am not fond of a forced donation, i'd like to decide myself.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 29 June 2014, 09:58:52
In my opinion, stab funds should be use for future development of GH60. To support LED(internal, not external module) and Bluetooth I guess? Or maybe MX RGB? :D That is wishful thinking on my end but It wont hurt to dream a little.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 29 June 2014, 10:35:40
From WFDs last post, he has all the stabs but is missing wires. We should try to get him to ship what he has to someone who is doing the shipping. There is a better chance that we find/make wires if that is all we need. If the money for the stabs is spent (or some anyway) we should at least get the pieces that have been purchased already. Ya? Wires we can make if we have to.

oh right, forgot the wire was the problem. I'll bend the wire myself, very easy to do actually.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 29 June 2014, 10:51:18
From WFDs last post, he has all the stabs but is missing wires. We should try to get him to ship what he has to someone who is doing the shipping. There is a better chance that we find/make wires if that is all we need. If the money for the stabs is spent (or some anyway) we should at least get the pieces that have been purchased already. Ya? Wires we can make if we have to.


All stabs funds combined is quite a bit of money.. i wouldn't want to see that swept under the rug. Also am not fond of a forced donation, i'd like to decide myself.

+1 I have almost $50 in stabilizers here. I don't want to lose that amount of money. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: T0ken on Sun, 29 June 2014, 12:18:09
I understand that some might not want to lose the money; but personally, I'll gladly forfeit my stabilizer money to have a GH60 PCB in my hands before the year 2060.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 29 June 2014, 13:13:06
oh right, forgot the wire was the problem. I'll bend the wire myself, very easy to do actually.

And I've offered to bend wires at cost for people.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Sun, 29 June 2014, 13:18:15
oh right, forgot the wire was the problem. I'll bend the wire myself, very easy to do actually.

And I've offered to bend wires at cost for people.

I know melvang is looking at building a jig for bending, so if a few people get those, the job would become a lot easier.

I think that if we could get WFD to ship the stabs he has (sans wire) to whoever is shipping, that would be a large step forward in this progress.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Sun, 29 June 2014, 14:47:08
I want and need those stabilizers that I paid for more than a year ago, specifically i need the cherry spacebar wires.
I hate how this is just now being handled, you guys have had a year. Online components, mouser sell the plate and pcb cherry stabs with a 2x wire for cheap, those shouldn't be a problem. Costars shouldn't be to hard to get and they are easy to bend, I've bent costar wires before. SO I imagine this comes down to the cherry stab spacebar wires which are hard to bend given the thickness, music wire won't work with cherry stabs, I need those cherry wire that I paid for
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pasph on Sun, 29 June 2014, 14:54:02
WFD shipping stuff?
Ok be ready to wait another year
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 29 June 2014, 16:15:51
Broken record time:

TJ, can we get an official timeline?

Also, can we get an answer on shipping without stabs and/or a refund on them?  I'd rather buy them myself or do a mini GB on them since, at this point, it seems like it will be quicker than this GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 29 June 2014, 17:39:28
we are getting closer woop
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mauri on Mon, 30 June 2014, 11:53:25
I volunteer to bend stab wires with my mind. Tin foil hats are advised at the immediate vicinity of said wires.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: maxmalkav on Tue, 01 July 2014, 06:08:24
I have changed addresses twice since this started  :confused:

who can I contact to update my shipping address?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: battletux on Tue, 01 July 2014, 16:10:46
Wow. Thought I check the progress of this (as it has been a month or more since I last did) and it's hardly progressed at all!

So as the plates have been paid and delivered and the PCB's effectively done, is there any chance I'll see my order this side of new year? Or even the Summer?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 01 July 2014, 19:47:32
Wow. Thought I check the progress of this (as it has been a month or more since I last did) and it's hardly progressed at all!

So as the plates have been paid and delivered and the PCB's effectively done, is there any chance I'll see my order this side of new year? Or even the Summer?

Great question!

TJ and/or komar, can we get an official timeline so that this wonderful soul's question can get answered?

Also, can we get an answer on shipping without stabs and/or a refund on them to get this shipped quicker?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Wed, 02 July 2014, 09:24:41
Are we there yet?

I'm pretty dexterous, and prone to improvised rigging. I bet if i had specs and a straight wire (and some example images), i could make it fit. Is there a space bar wire specs file somewhere?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 02 July 2014, 11:02:36
I bet if i had specs and a straight wire (and some example images), i could make it fit. Is there a space bar wire specs file somewhere?

You need 1,6mm thick wire and just need to bend both ends. I don't remember the length though but you can orient on the stems of a spacebar.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 02 July 2014, 11:17:00
TJ and/or komar, can we get an official timeline so that this wonderful soul's question can get answered?

This :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 02 July 2014, 12:12:17
TJ and/or komar, can we get an official timeline so that this wonderful soul's question can get answered?

This :thumb:

I'd like to hear as well
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 02 July 2014, 12:45:24
everyone is talking about bending spacebar wires themselves but are they talking about costars or cherrys because costars are indeed easy to bend yourself but those cherrys are much thicker, you cant even cut them with normal wirecutters they are so thick, i think WFD was going to have them machined originally. I really dont want the consensus to be "**** the people who want stabilizers"
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: boost on Wed, 02 July 2014, 13:33:50
-__- still no update on the PCB...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: T0ken on Wed, 02 July 2014, 14:56:52
GON seems to have stabilizers and wires in stock:

http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/90-wire-for-spacebar-stabilizers.html

$9 for stabilizers is not worth my time to wait any longer. As far as I know; it seems that the PCBs have been produced and are sitting with someone. Who do I have to bribe and how much do I have to pay just have my PCB shipped already?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Wed, 02 July 2014, 17:16:34
Are the cherry wires thicker than coat hanger wire? Those are pretty thick, and admittedly not exactly so compliant... but i recently did some articulate bending of a piece of coat hanger wire to replace a lost "poker" for my "dugout" one-hitter... sure it's not as pretty as the original, and i'd guess a space bar wire would be a bit more difficult, but it works, and fits in the original poker-stash-hole... i'm pretty sure i could manage. If cherry space bar wires are too difficult to source, i wouldn't mind improvising one for myself. I don't care if it's a little "ugly," as long as it fits and functions as it should. It won't be visible most of the time anyway. If i knew the exact measurements required, i could make guide marks instead of just eyeballing it like i did with the "poker."

The other point i was going to make: i saw a complaint about not wanting to lose $50, and i agree that losing any amount of money doesn't feel good... but even a minimum wage laborer can make $50 in a single day. Most of us have less than that riding on space bar wires. IMO, it's not worth holding up completion for a wire that can be improvised with a bit of dexterity and ingenuity. In fact, each day that passes without the keyboard in hand, is worth more than the missing wires. Some of you guys make hundreds of dollars a day. It's costing you exponentially more time-value than the amount of money you might lose over some MIA wires. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 02 July 2014, 17:20:57
This is all just speculation until WFD or TJ steps in to give us an update, which is maddening.

(http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1414/14143859/2444395-4772028483-tumbl.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 03 July 2014, 06:48:14
Are the cherry wires thicker than coat hanger wire? [...]

As I said above they're 1,6mm thick. I don't think coat hanger wire has a standard thickness. You can get 1,6mm thick stainless steel welding rods for about 1-2$ per meter.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Thu, 03 July 2014, 08:06:07
Are the cherry wires thicker than coat hanger wire?

No. Coat hangers will be too thick.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Thu, 03 July 2014, 13:16:34
Are the cherry wires thicker than coat hanger wire? [...]

As I said above they're 1,6mm thick. I don't think coat hanger wire has a standard thickness. You can get 1,6mm thick stainless steel welding rods for about 1-2$ per meter.
Are the cherry wires thicker than coat hanger wire?

No. Coat hangers will be too thick.

lol, i wasn't going to try to use coat hanger wire for a space bar... my point was: i've bent thicker (satisfactorily for the purpose i intended).

Just by eyeballing, i was assuming the wire i bent was indeed at least 2mm, maybe more (and i was indeed able to cut it with some very cheap generic cutters). It wasn't exactly the easiest thing i've done, but it wasn't all that difficult either, and didn't take me very long to do it. And i'm not some huge burly hulking superman either. I'm tall and skinny. I may have a leverage advantage (lol), but i doubt it was significant in this regard.

So, like i was saying... if it's less thick than the wire i mentioned, i'm pretty sure i could do it. And even if it ends up being a suboptimal solution, i'm sure we can eventually source some proper wires.

Bending wire is all about solid grip and fulcrum positioning, and understanding what to expect from the material in question. I'd likely have a test piece just to see how it reacts to various pressures. One thing i've found is that it's best to try to get a perfect bend on the first try, because once you bend it, it's hard to adjust the result. If you can get it "close enough" on the first bend, it can be adjusted a bit... but if you mess up the first bend, or don't bend enough, it's hard to avoid rounding what should be a 90 degree angle. But like i said: it would be worth spending a whole single day and some elbow grease, rather than waiting indefinitely for something i could likely fashion myself.

Now, whether that's relevant to the status of the GB... (inclined to think it isn't...) remains to be seen.

I just looked at some pictures... i'm pretty sure i could do it, even if i'm underestimating the difficulty. I bet some of you guys would be able to do it even easier, if you have bench clamps and stuff. I would think it would be best to start with the center bends, and work outward. If you have a bench clamp, or some way to make a "jig" (as someone else mentioned may already be in the works), that would be ideal.

(note: i'm not volunteering to make hundreds of these... lol... i would need to be compensated for that level and amount of labor intensive crafting)

I was also wondering if this delay has anything to do with potential legal repercussions, due to ultimately not supplying what was initially claimed. I can't promise no one else will sue over a $9 space bar wire... but i sure as hell wouldn't.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 03 July 2014, 13:28:24
The problem also is that a coat hanger is very bendable due to whatever material it is made out of and a 7x wire could possibly start to flex if we were to use that material

cherry corp stab wires are extremely solid, hard to cut, hard to bend. i am sure somebody here knows what they are made out of and some may know how to make them. i think WFD was going to have them machined or whatever the term is instead of bending them.

we only have to worry about the spacebar wires though as they are sold with the 2x wires for really cheap on parts websites both in PCB and Plate formats.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3853/14563383411_e1b1d72491_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/obV9vr)

also i agree though that people who didn't order stabs have every right to be demanding their orders be shipped.

btw those space bar wires  GON sells are shipped from korea and they cost more than the cost of the spacebar wire to ship

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Thu, 03 July 2014, 13:35:18
The problem also is that a coat hanger is very bendable due to whatever material it is made out of and a 7x wire could possibly start to flex if we were to use that material

cherry corp stab wires are extremely solid, hard to cut, hard to bend. i am sure somebody here knows what they are made out of and some may know how to make them. i think WFD was going to have them machined or whatever the term is instead of bending them.

we only have to worry about the spacebar wires though as they are sold with the 2x wires for really cheap on parts websites both in PCB and Plate formats.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3853/14563383411_e1b1d72491_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/obV9vr)

also i agree though that people who didn't order stabs have every right to be demanding their orders be shipped.

btw those space bar wires  GON sells are shipped from korea and they cost more than the cost of the spacebar wire to ship


I've seen flimsy weak coat hangers, and very stiff coat hangers. This was the very stiff kind (because i needed it to be stiff enough to push through a similarly sized hole, and compacted resin/ash can be very stubborn). Although i see what you're saying about the longer ones... i don't think the wire i used would flex much, though i'm sure it would not be an ideal solution. But sometimes the only choice is between improvise and go without. I'd rather improvise in that case. There doesn't seem to be a better option at this point, so i'm preparing to improvise.

edit: in fact, i'd even be willing to use a 1u cap for space, until an acceptably functional solution can be found.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 03 July 2014, 13:48:24
well i agree it wouldnt have to be the same material as cherry, it just needs to be the same thickness and sturdy enough

the reason it has to be the same thickness is that the wires actually snap into the stab

i mean i do wish they would just ship them out and then handle the stabs separate. the fact there is PCBs just sitting at TJs for months is just absolute bs. Why wouldn't he want to reduce how much work he has to do by getting the PCB-only orders out, does he really want to do it all at once.

its clear that TJ doesnt care about Geek Hack people.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:02:09
I think this is what you guys are looking for:

https://www.google.com/search?q=k%26s+music+wire+0.062
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:04:12
is that for costar or cherry?

that cant be for cherry, i have a 0.047 bender i bought for costar and cherry stab wire does not fit in it
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:06:09
is that for costar or cherry?

You can use it for Cherry. It still snaps in, just a little loose. See the stabs on a Poker/Pure/etc.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:12:36
its too loose!

i have a 0.047 wire right here, the same you are linking and a bender for it

it comes right out when you use it for a wire, it does NOT stay snapped in

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3886/14565368534_2dfeddaa79.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oc6jBG)

imagine putting a plate over one of these, having the wire just pop out and then your ****ed and have to de-solder all the switches off to put a new wire in. **** that **** i want the exact thickness.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: AKmalamute on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:20:46
something else on this (http://www.ksmetals.com/17.html) page ...? they use different measurements at different times.

it turns out 0.055 (http://www.graysonhobby.com/catalog/ksmusicwire0055x363pcspertube503-p-1097.html) is a thing, for instance ...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:21:52
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:22:06
its too loose!

i have a 0.047 wire right here, the same you are linking and a bender for it

it comes right out when you use it for a wire, it does NOT stay snapped in

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3886/14565368534_2dfeddaa79.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oc6jBG)

imagine putting a plate over one of these, having the wire just pop out and then your ****ed and have to de-solder all the switches off to put a new wire in. **** that **** i want the exact thickness.

Oh, for some reason I thought I had use that one for Cherry before. :\

I edited my link. Should be good with that one.

Edit: this -- https://www.google.com/search?q=k%26s+music+wire+0.062
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:23:42
sure buy a thicker wire, then what, show me an affordable bender for it and something to cleanly cut it
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:29:43
sure buy a thicker wire, then what, show me an affordable bender for it and something to cleanly cut it


To bend, use these:

(http://i.imgur.com/4iKwuZb.jpg)


And to cut, use these:

(http://i.imgur.com/Mlgi1QE.jpg)

and this, to make the cut smooth:

(http://i.imgur.com/Q9hYa2M.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: AKmalamute on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:30:28
I'm not in this GB, alright? But I can tell tempers are running short ... All I can say, is how I'd feel if I were at this point. And here's how I'd feel:

"Affordable bender? They're called pliers. Close enough for government work and also my keyboard."

edit: ninja'd by JD  :))

But I'd like to sign off offering suggestions to stay constructive, short tempers notwithstanding. It takes fewer muscles to smile than to frown, and all that.

This is why I told everyone I wasn't going to anodize their ergodox cases, or source M3 screws. I'm a Unix aficionado; do one thing and do it well.

Talking too much, for instance. I'm usually good at that. Gonna go find someplace else to talk now, though. Good luck, everyone!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:37:56
the spacebar wire also has to have a a hump in it for the cherry switch for spacebar, i envy your precision with a needle nose pliers then

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3860/14567209445_92d862e5df.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ocfKRx)

why not talk about this ****, its not like we get any status from the person with our money and **** then. tired of this ****, making me out to be the bad guy
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:40:05
the spacebar wire also has to have a a hump in it for the cherry switch for spacebar, i envy your precision with a needle nose pliers then

I just use flat wires for all my Cherry stabilizers. I've never had a problem by not making those bends.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:42:47
fair enough i'll give it a try
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 03 July 2014, 14:46:28
the spacebar wire also has to have a a hump in it for the cherry switch for spacebar, i envy your precision with a needle nose pliers then

I just use flat wires for all my Cherry stabilizers. I've never had a problem by not making those bends.

Exactly this. I've only ever had 1 cherry stabilizer that was bent, and didn't feel any different whatsoever between that and a flat one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 03 July 2014, 15:17:27
Why are we arguing about stabilizer wires?  We should be asking where the hell is the timeline and when will get our stuff?  We can argue about stabilizers if it ever gets confirmed that that's what's holding us back.


With the amount of communication we're getting (sans ApocalypseMaow's much appreciated pics and updates) it feels like TheProfosist took this buy over.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 03 July 2014, 22:03:03
I got this for while I wait...
(http://mattsko.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/angry-mob-playset.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 03 July 2014, 22:39:46
I got this for while I wait...
Show Image
(http://mattsko.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/angry-mob-playset.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/nIPcifz.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 03 July 2014, 22:42:13
its too loose!

i have a 0.047 wire right here, the same you are linking and a bender for it

it comes right out when you use it for a wire, it does NOT stay snapped in

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3886/14565368534_2dfeddaa79.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oc6jBG)

imagine putting a plate over one of these, having the wire just pop out and then your ****ed and have to de-solder all the switches off to put a new wire in. **** that **** i want the exact thickness.
DUDE THIS KEEPS HAPPENING TO MY CUSTOMER BOARDS I GOT A BAD BATCH TT
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 03 July 2014, 23:14:23
the spacebar wire also has to have a a hump in it for the cherry switch for spacebar, i envy your precision with a needle nose pliers then

I just use flat wires for all my Cherry stabilizers. I've never had a problem by not making those bends.

^ this. In fact, I don't think you can use those stock Cherry wires with the offset and a plate. The offset part rubs the plate. Those are for use with PCB mount only I believe.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 03 July 2014, 23:34:37
here is also a video i just made disproving using a costar on cherry stabs

https://flic.kr/p/ocffsn
But that is the wire to use with costar, right?

Also, to be fair I haven't drove the plates to TJ yet. I'm off Sat, Sun and Monday. It'll be handled then.  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: polarpigs on Fri, 04 July 2014, 02:29:17
Also, to be fair I haven't drove the plates to TJ yet. I'm off Sat, Sun and Monday. It'll be handled then.  :p

While you're there, would you mind telling him that it'd be nice if someone made indications to show that this GB is still being worked on...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 04 July 2014, 03:27:36
Also, to be fair I haven't drove the plates to TJ yet. I'm off Sat, Sun and Monday. It'll be handled then.  :p

While you're there, would you mind telling him that it'd be nice if someone made indications to show that this GB is still being worked on...
The wheels are turning dudes, no doubt.

Just take a second and be thankful PCB's, plates, switches, money and responsibility of this GB ended up with the people it did.

We could all be in the same boat as Pasph... Not to rub salt in the wound, cause I do hope he gets his gear soon but really think about it...

The whole GB was DOA until TJ and JD stepped up to take over what WFD abandoned.

I know it's a lot to ask, but hold tight, we'll get there.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 04 July 2014, 05:17:28
holding tight

(http://animals.timduru.org/dirlist/squirrel/HoldTight.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Fri, 04 July 2014, 10:12:43
Also, to be fair I haven't drove the plates to TJ yet. I'm off Sat, Sun and Monday. It'll be handled then.  :p

While you're there, would you mind telling him that it'd be nice if someone made indications to show that this GB is still being worked on...
The wheels are turning dudes, no doubt.

Just take a second and be thankful PCB's, plates, switches, money and responsibility of this GB ended up with the people it did.

We could all be in the same boat as Pasph... Not to rub salt in the wound, cause I do hope he gets his gear soon but really think about it...

The whole GB was DOA until TJ and JD stepped up to take over what WFD abandoned.

I know it's a lot to ask, but hold tight, we'll get there.

+1. Well said.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 04 July 2014, 10:38:11
Also, to be fair I haven't drove the plates to TJ yet. I'm off Sat, Sun and Monday. It'll be handled then.  :p

While you're there, would you mind telling him that it'd be nice if someone made indications to show that this GB is still being worked on...
The wheels are turning dudes, no doubt.

Just take a second and be thankful PCB's, plates, switches, money and responsibility of this GB ended up with the people it did.

We could all be in the same boat as Pasph... Not to rub salt in the wound, cause I do hope he gets his gear soon but really think about it...

The whole GB was DOA until TJ and JD stepped up to take over what WFD abandoned.

I know it's a lot to ask, but hold tight, we'll get there.



Very true, but it would be nice to hear from TJ seeing as he's got the money and the PCB's (well for NA anyway from what I understand)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 06 July 2014, 20:20:30
The Eagle has landed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Sun, 06 July 2014, 20:42:51
The Eagle has landed.

You should go back to your old avatar ApocalypseMaow because you are firing on all cylinders! Nice job man. Thank you.

BTW: What was that avatar from?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 06 July 2014, 21:42:51
The Eagle has landed.

You should go back to your old avatar ApocalypseMaow because you are firing on all cylinders! Nice job man. Thank you.

BTW: What was that avatar from?
:))
No idea, saw it on an image search for cats...
(http://cdn.slowrobot.com/962013034546.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Sun, 06 July 2014, 21:49:03
Found it! [link (http://laughingsquid.com/catgun-illustration-of-a-woman-shooting-cats-from-a-futuristic-weapon/)]

(http://l.mashby.com/OWy3+)

Had no idea she was shooting cats.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 06 July 2014, 22:43:33
sure buy a thicker wire, then what, show me an affordable bender for it and something to cleanly cut it


To bend, use these:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4iKwuZb.jpg)



And to cut, use these:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Mlgi1QE.jpg)


and this, to make the cut smooth:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Q9hYa2M.jpg)


Just beware of what you're cutting when you're making stab wires.  If you're using music wire, it's hardened steel and may not cut easily with anything.  I actually dented my tin snips trying to cut that stuff.  :(  That was not smart.  Depending on the hardness, you may have to use a dremel tool to cut it, rather than snipping it. 

Also, coat hangers are super soft metal, and thickness is only relevant if it's the same material.  I know that discussion is kind of over, but it needs to be said.  :)

Carry on.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 07 July 2014, 08:50:50
Found it! [link (http://laughingsquid.com/catgun-illustration-of-a-woman-shooting-cats-from-a-futuristic-weapon/)]

Show Image
(http://l.mashby.com/OWy3+)


Had no idea she was shooting cats.
lol, makes me smile every time I see it!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 07 July 2014, 08:52:39
Has anyone heard from TJ recently? I supposedly won a Mimic cable in a competition a while back but I haven't got it and he never answers my PM's any more.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 07 July 2014, 09:26:56
Has anyone heard from TJ recently? I supposedly won a Mimic cable in a competition a while back but I haven't got it and he never answers my PM's any more.

That inspires confidence.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Mon, 07 July 2014, 10:58:56
He has posted recently, so he is around.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 07 July 2014, 11:54:10
Found it! [link (http://laughingsquid.com/catgun-illustration-of-a-woman-shooting-cats-from-a-futuristic-weapon/)]

Show Image
(http://l.mashby.com/OWy3+)


Had no idea she was shooting cats.

this totally made my day. I almost forgot about GH60 for a second.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 07 July 2014, 19:10:50
He has posted recently, so he is around.

But not here......not here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Mon, 07 July 2014, 20:30:32
He has posted recently, so he is around.

But not here......not here.

He is probably afraid for his life in this thread right now. Haha...

Honestly, if it was me, I would want to have something positive to report before getting involved in this thread. This thread could suck up far more of his time than it would be worth, especially if he is strapped for time.

Positive thoughts and let's get that karma flowing in the right direction. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 07 July 2014, 20:40:04
He has posted recently, so he is around.

But not here......not here.

He is probably afraid for his life in this thread right now. Haha...

Honestly, if it was me, I would want to have something positive to report before getting involved in this thread. This thread could suck up far more of his time than it would be worth, especially if he is strapped for time.

Positive thoughts and let's get that karma flowing in the right direction. :)

It's not like people are asking for much, just a rough timeline and answering whether or not he'd do staggered shipping so that those with PCBs or PCBs and plates only can get theirs quicker.

If we got regular updates of everything is status quo, at least we'd have an update.  I'm annoyed since we're just being ignored.  I don't have as much money as some in this, but when I put the money in, it was a lot for me.  It'd be nice to have our investment treated with respect and know when we'll get stuff.  I mean, Sprit's R1 is already much faster than this.  I just got my PCB, plate, and stabilizers from him this weekend and only paid a couple of months ago.  At this rate, it will be two years since I paid before I get my GH60 stuff.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Mon, 07 July 2014, 20:53:19
He has posted recently, so he is around.

But not here......not here.

He is probably afraid for his life in this thread right now. Haha...

Honestly, if it was me, I would want to have something positive to report before getting involved in this thread. This thread could suck up far more of his time than it would be worth, especially if he is strapped for time.

Positive thoughts and let's get that karma flowing in the right direction. :)

It's not like people are asking for much, just a rough timeline and answering whether or not he'd do staggered shipping so that those with PCBs or PCBs and plates only can get theirs quicker.

If we got regular updates of everything is status quo, at least we'd have an update.  I'm annoyed since we're just being ignored.  I don't have as much money as some in this, but when I put the money in, it was a lot for me.  It'd be nice to have our investment treated with respect and know when we'll get stuff.  I mean, Sprit's R1 is already much faster than this.  I just got my PCB, plate, and stabilizers from him this weekend and only paid a couple of months ago.  At this rate, it will be two years since I paid before I get my GH60 stuff.

Yes. I agree with you. Updates would be appreciated and are well deserved.

I also got my sprit orders which I am very happy about. Gotta give that guy credit, he has been working really hard to keep his GB going in the right direction. With all the soldering he took on, it's remarkable.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Wed, 09 July 2014, 07:43:52
He has posted recently, so he is around.

But not here......not here.

He is probably afraid for his life in this thread right now. Haha...

Honestly, if it was me, I would want to have something positive to report before getting involved in this thread. This thread could suck up far more of his time than it would be worth, especially if he is strapped for time.

Positive thoughts and let's get that karma flowing in the right direction. :)


Something super simple like "hey i'm not dead and the PCBs exist, but there's really nothing to say until the other parts get handled, see ya next year!" would suffice. At least then i could write it off as a loss and figure out where to go from here.

In fact, i'll just pretend he said that, and proceed accordingly.

It's a life lesson: when people don't answer questions, you fill in the blank for them.

He hasn't posted here: that means he doesn't want to. The guy holding the stuff doesn't want to communicate with us. That means whatever it means. Every other instance i can recall, in which such conditions were present, the result was lost money and no stuff, and a rigid disinclination toward further dealings. I wonder if this time will be different.

Oh well. Lesson learned i suppose.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: hellerbarde on Wed, 09 July 2014, 07:59:57
Easy now. The answer will come when it comes. Life is messy and complicated.

I for one am just looking forward to the surprise GH60. After this much time, I consider it a gift from past-me to future-me. Isn't that super exciting?

;)

cheers,
Barde
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 09 July 2014, 08:59:48
After this much time, I consider it a gift from past-me to future-me. Isn't that super exciting?

Haha, great way to think about it. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: T0ken on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:20:14
I'm trying to be patient, but this is ridiculous. No timeline, No pictures, no indication that the GH60 isn't just vaporware. Obviously no one cares, but still i'll say it: I'm sitting here with an empty keyboard shell on my desk. I'm wiling to wait, but I want to assemble the bloody keyboard at some point. Maybe we can consider just open sourcing the final PCB revision? At this point I would rather just get it fabbed myself or pay for a Chinese manufacturer on Taobao.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: hellerbarde on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:38:10
But it is open source... It's on github, knock yourself out.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:41:26
But it is open source... It's on github, knock yourself out.  :)

Not Rev C. which has some bugfixes and changes (for the LED module for example).

1. No timeline, No pictures, no indication that the GH60 isn't just vaporware.
2. Maybe we can consider just open sourcing the final PCB revision? At this point I would rather just get it fabbed myself or pay for a Chinese manufacturer on Taobao.

1. There were pictures of the plates. Not sure if there were pictures of the PCBs yet.
2. Great idea, so people who are waiting for this GB get their products after somebody who hasn't been waiting for all this time? That's totally going to make everybody happy, right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: T0ken on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:45:59
But it is open source... It's on github, knock yourself out.  :)

Not Rev C. which has some bugfixes and changes (for the LED module for example).

1. No timeline, No pictures, no indication that the GH60 isn't just vaporware.
2. Maybe we can consider just open sourcing the final PCB revision? At this point I would rather just get it fabbed myself or pay for a Chinese manufacturer on Taobao.

1. There were pictures of the plates. Not sure if there were pictures of the PCBs yet.
2. Great idea, so people who are waiting for this GB get their products after somebody who hasn't been waiting for all this time? That's totally going to make everybody happy, right?

1. No pictures of Rev C PCBs
2. It was a suggestion to see what people think. At this point, is anyone going to be less happy?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:53:40
At this point, is anyone going to be less happy?

Is that a serious question?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 09 July 2014, 09:57:04
2. Great idea, so people who are waiting for this GB get their products after somebody who hasn't been waiting for all this time? That's totally going to make everybody happy, right?

Isn't that exactly what's happening with mkawa's latest titanium GB?  They'll be getting a functional latest revision GH60 before us at this rate.

I still want to know why the organizers find time to post elsewhere, but can't post an update.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 09 July 2014, 10:02:53
Isn't that exactly what's happening with mkawa's latest titanium GB?  They'll be getting a functional latest revision GH60 before us at this rate.

I still want to know why the organizers find time to post elsewhere, but can't post an update.

That's still an interest check and I don't think mkawa will get GH60s made before the GB ends. He was not part of the GH60 GB organizers afaik and should not even have access to the GH60 Rev C files unless they were shared with him.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: T0ken on Wed, 09 July 2014, 10:05:50
Isn't that exactly what's happening with mkawa's latest titanium GB?  They'll be getting a functional latest revision GH60 before us at this rate.

I still want to know why the organizers find time to post elsewhere, but can't post an update.

That's still an interest check and I don't think mkawa will get GH60s made before the GB ends. He was not part of the GH60 GB organizers afaik and should not even have access to the GH60 Rev C files unless they were shared with him.

In the interest check thread it says that he has an agreement with Komar007 to use the Rev C files.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 09 July 2014, 10:08:03
Hold on you just edited your post. Which one of them is true now?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: T0ken on Wed, 09 July 2014, 10:09:57
Hold on you just edited your post. Which one of them is true now?

edit: wait, which edit are you talking about? I also edited earlier to scale back on flaming; I'm not changing facts and I honestly don;t want to argue, I want a discussion about where this GB is going and what we can do.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 09 July 2014, 19:23:13
There's only 1 important question: where are our money?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 09 July 2014, 19:28:33
There's only 1 important question: where are our money?

TJ's Paypal account.  And it's not all fun and games holding that much money while we wait for this to complete - just sayin.

Actually this was the state a few months ago, before the ball really got rolling again.  At this point, I'm sure some of it has been spent (plates and such), and some may be waiting for future decisions to be made still.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 09 July 2014, 19:34:05
There's only 1 important question: where are our money?

TJ's Paypal account.  And it's not all fun and games holding that much money while we wait for this to complete - just sayin.

(http://i.imgur.com/SiLsL4t.gif)

We just want updates.  I feel like Rodney Dangerfield in here since I don't get no respect.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 09 July 2014, 19:47:48
There's only 1 important question: where are our money?

TJ's Paypal account.  And it's not all fun and games holding that much money while we wait for this to complete - just sayin.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SiLsL4t.gif)


We just want updates.  I feel like Rodney Dangerfield in here since I don't get no respect.

I've updated my post.  I remember a few months ago it was sitting in his paypal waiting for things to happen, but that's likely not true at this point anymore, as some has gone to production of parts already.  I was basing my post off old information without realizing that things have happened since then.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 09 July 2014, 19:58:39
There's only 1 important question: where are our money?

TJ's Paypal account.  And it's not all fun and games holding that much money while we wait for this to complete - just sayin.
4 sure.
Until we know that money are still in good hands it's only a matter of time.
And anyone around here i bet have something to type on already ;-)
Unfortunately lately we've learned that a total lack of communication is an omen of a disaster.
So i hope TJ can find the time to post something here (even if he's cursing the day he took this responsibility)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 10 July 2014, 06:02:27
just two words...

"DSA Dolch"

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.
.

(kidding! I'm kidding!)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 10 July 2014, 06:33:30
just two words...

"DSA Dolch"

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.
.
.

(kidding! I'm kidding!)

haha.. well I was quite enthusiastic to jump on the "custom mechanical keyboard" train, so I put in an order for a GH60, purchased a DSA Dolch set because there was an ISO DSA Dolch companion group buy, and I bought a 60% Tex aluminium case.

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.
.

Man oh man does that case look sweet on my bookshelf!  :)) :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: agodinhost on Thu, 10 July 2014, 06:53:36
Man oh man does that case look sweet on my bookshelf!  :)) :))
as one ashtray?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 10 July 2014, 07:00:45
Man oh man does that case look sweet on my bookshelf!  :)) :))
as one ashtray?

I would certainly get more use out of it as an ashtray  :p

Looking forward to seeing updates on this GB. Just gonna wait patiently. My keyboard is half-complete, not half-empty  ^-^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: agodinhost on Thu, 10 July 2014, 07:09:41
Man oh man does that case look sweet on my bookshelf!  :)) :))
as one ashtray?

I would certainly get more use out of it as an ashtray  :p

Looking forward to seeing updates on this GB. Just gonna wait patiently. My keyboard is half-complete, not half-empty  ^-^
same here
 :-X
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 10 July 2014, 07:34:06
I bought a 60% Tex aluminium case.

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.
.

Man oh man does that case look sweet on my bookshelf!  :)) :))

You're tellin' me.  I ordered 3 GH60s and over the span of a few months I procured 3 cases (one of them being the TEX aluminium case).  I've resorted to simply shuffling my Poker II around between them until these come in.   :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 10 July 2014, 07:48:56
lol, you guys... I know everyone is rustled right now, but everything is being worked out.
maybe not to your liking, but it's moving along.

TJ didn't sign up for this, it was dropped in his lap.

When the angry mob is knocking on your door, are you gonna answer to explain??? NOPE

Even if he came here and explained every detail of what's going on, most of you would still
have something ****ty to snap at him about.

This GB started WAY TO EARLY, not to mention it was further delayed by most of you wanting
led's and other bull****.
This GB should not have started without a final pcb in sight, but it didn't happen.
This GB should have had a solid backbone running it, but it didn't happen.

You should all be encouraging TJ to want to update, not angry mob demanding...
Then again, I don't run again thing here... xD
Here's to seeing a return on my $600...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Grimey on Thu, 10 July 2014, 07:52:21
Bag of modified switches sitting around, sets of caps sitting around... at least I was able to convince myself to hold off on making the cases until later, otherwise those would be sitting around as well. 

I really really want these boards, they are going to be the holy grail of keyboards to finish my search (no faith in any of the Alps projects honestly).

But then again my latest group buy participation that wasn't run by SP was the DSA Dolch... now I just have a bad taste in my mouth about this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 10 July 2014, 07:56:32
lol, you guys... I know everyone is rustled right now, but everything is being worked out.
maybe not to your liking, but it's moving along.

TJ didn't sign up for this, it was dropped in his lap.

When the angry mob is knocking on your door, are you gonna answer to explain??? NOPE

Even if he came here and explained every detail of what's going on, most of you would still
have something ****ty to snap at him about.

This GB started WAY TO EARLY, not to mention it was further delayed by most of you wanting
led's and other bull****.
This GB should not have started without a final pcb in sight, but it didn't happen.
This GB should have had a solid backbone running it, but it didn't happen.

You should all be encouraging TJ to want to update, not angry mob demanding...
Then again, I don't run again thing here... xD
Here's to seeing a return on my $600...

To clarify, I was not intending to add to any mob that may be forming, or incite any negative feelings toward TJ for my situation or anyone's here.  I was just sharing a story that I find amusing.  Not in a spiteful way towards any organizers, more just as a "one up" to how deep we are in this.   :thumb:

I have faith in this GB.  It is moving slow, but it is moving!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 10 July 2014, 08:10:01
GO TJ! We love you!

(http://dy.snimg.com/story-image/3/80/4330742/137377-0-600.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: agodinhost on Thu, 10 July 2014, 08:13:07
lol, you guys... I know everyone is rustled right now, but everything is being worked out.
maybe not to your liking, but it's moving along.

TJ didn't sign up for this, it was dropped in his lap.

When the angry mob is knocking on your door, are you gonna answer to explain??? NOPE

Even if he came here and explained every detail of what's going on, most of you would still
have something ****ty to snap at him about.

This GB started WAY TO EARLY, not to mention it was further delayed by most of you wanting
led's and other bull****.
This GB should not have started without a final pcb in sight, but it didn't happen.
This GB should have had a solid backbone running it, but it didn't happen.

You should all be encouraging TJ to want to update, not angry mob demanding...
Then again, I don't run again thing here... xD
Here's to seeing a return on my $600...

To clarify, I was not intending to add to any mob that may be forming, or incite any negative feelings toward TJ for my situation or anyone's here.  I was just sharing a story that I find amusing.  Not in a spiteful way towards any organizers, more just as a "one up" to how deep we are in this.   :thumb:

I have faith in this GB.  It is moving slow, but it is moving!
Neither I.
I was just trying to cheer me up a little with a bad joke ...
I love my ashtray!
 :-*

As someone already said above: when it cames it will be a gift.

To be totally honest I know that organizing a GB is a total ****ing disgusting task - dealing with money, expectations and delays (that are out of our control) are a real PITA. The most annoying thing is that, most of time, you not even make money with GB - you do just for fun or to make easier things that you are interested in. And I bet that sometimes you get that idea to throw everything away.

Thanks god I'm not involved into the organization of this GB.

The angry mob sucks!
Thanks for all you guys organizing this GB, cheer up!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 10 July 2014, 08:13:47
GO TJ! We love you!

Show Image
(http://dy.snimg.com/story-image/3/80/4330742/137377-0-600.jpg)


Just had that image handy huh?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:24:36
*group hug
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:16:29
GO TJ! We love you!

Show Image
(http://dy.snimg.com/story-image/3/80/4330742/137377-0-600.jpg)



Well this thread is just chock full of stuff i'll never have!

(in case that pic gets taken down: it was a reasonably attractive cheerleader cleavage shot.)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 10 July 2014, 16:18:51
wondering how long the mod axe will take to censor that image. :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 10 July 2014, 16:59:02
THIS moderator approves the picture... :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 10 July 2014, 17:15:51
THIS moderator approves the picture... :))
:)) :)) :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 10 July 2014, 17:30:49
THIS moderator approves the picture... :))

Was gonna say.  No reason to remove that one.  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:22:53
Such an odd group buy where I am supposed to feel guilty if I am angry about not having my stuff.   :confused:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:27:19
Such an odd group buy where I am supposed to feel guilty if I am angry about not having my stuff.   :confused:

Agreed.  And it's not like there were any pitchforks, just people wanting a straight answer about where we are and when we can expect to get stuff.  That really shouldn't be hard to give out.

I understand that TJ offered to take it over and a mess was dropped in his lap, that this GB was started prematurely, and so on, but we still deserve some answers, especially when so much money has been put into it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: kmiller8 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 21:22:25
I love how if Bunny would have taken all the payment for this and had been weeks, months, years, behind, people would just say "Don't worry, you're doing a good job anyways" Especially for the GB's he had no part in originally, but "took over" and has taken him months to ship, why aren't people going complain in those threads..

I don't see why we treat members differently in this piece of **** "community" I can _almost_ understand the attacks on people who take money and run from the forum, but for someone who is so active in this community and is obviously trying his best (but not bunny best) to be harassed by so many of you dumb little retards. It's infuriating, I wish I could slap the entitlement out of your little heads through the internet. It's members like that why I don't participate or interact with anyone here anymore.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 10 July 2014, 21:48:55
I love how if Bunny would have taken all the payment for this and had been weeks, months, years, behind, people would just say "Don't worry, you're doing a good job anyways" Especially for the GB's he had no part in originally, but "took over" and has taken him months to ship, why aren't people going complain in those threads..

People did and do complain on the buys Bunny took over.  Did you even follow the Calm Depths thread?  Yeah, there were those praising Bunny, but there were also those telling him to hurry up and complaining and all other sorts of minutiae.  The difference is that he gave/gives updates.  Even updates you don't want to hear are updates.

And if he was 6 months to a year behind on any GB, I'd start complaining, especially if he went silent and there were no real updates in the thread.  It doesn't matter who ran the GB, if it was handled like this one, there would be complaints, and justified complaints at that.

Aside from the inanity of reverting to ad hominems against those who have valid concerns and questions they'd like answered, you can't, at this point, say TJ is "so active in this community".  He has been in the past, but he is noticeably quiet in most of the forum.  I get that he is a busy guy and respect that.  I also understand that he took on a large responsibility, probably too large of one, but that doesn't absolve him of not providing updates. 

Additionally, most people aren't attacking TJ (though you seem to think so), they just want to know what's happening.  It's the lack of respect for our money and investment that is irksome.  If you categorize that as "harassment" then so be it, but it's just people who have invested money into a project wanting to know that there will be returns on their investment.  Asking for updates and a timeline on the project is no more harassment then stockholders asking a business for a quarterly report.

You're entitled to your opinion though.  On the other hand, so are we.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 10 July 2014, 22:54:56
we were told this would ship in September, that's the last eta we were EVER GIVEN for when we would have a package on our doorsteps, its not been just a few months late and we are just impatient *****es you make us out to be kmiller, I''m sure your just loving to throw insults at me.

My anger comes from i paid $300 a year ago and we haven't got an ETA since invoices. We ARE giving TJ and JD preferential treatment because they ran successful group buys in the past; otherwise i would be yelling SCAM SCAM at the top of my ****ing lungs at this point and have real ****ing pitchforks. This is the most CONFUSING group buy i have ever been a part of because of the fact these guys have done respectable business in the past, some of which i participated in. So whenever i spit obvious hate, its really ****ed up because 7 months ago i would have never expected to be angry at JD, TJ, Komar, and WFD, these guys are ****ing power players here at geekhack, its seriously confusing that I've become pissed but I have every reason to be and no one can tell me I don't have the right to be angry; anybody who is trying to make me out to be the enemy seriously must hate me for other reasons.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 00:43:47
GBs some times take time due to logistics.

The difference with a bunny buy is that he is at least present when the buy is taking longer than expected.

The extended time without updates on this GB is what I think is getting to people.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 11 July 2014, 01:16:34
it has been already pointed out, but I believe that the only problem here is that the GB started too soon.

well anyway, sooner or later I'll get my GH60, in the mean time I'll keep building my customs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: agodinhost on Fri, 11 July 2014, 06:59:44
it has been already pointed out, but I believe that the only problem here is that the GB started too soon.

well anyway, sooner or later I'll get my GH60, in the mean time I'll keep building my customs.
Please!
more awesome keycaps man!
 :-*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:09:28
it has been already pointed out, but I believe that the only problem here is that the GB started too soon.

well anyway, sooner or later I'll get my GH60, in the mean time I'll keep building my customs.
Please!
more awesome keycaps man!
 :-*

I guess he was talking about his custom keyboards and not keycaps.

Check this thread out for example:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59827.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:24:22
People did and do complain on the buys Bunny took over.  Did you even follow the Calm Depths thread?  Yeah, there were those praising Bunny, but there were also those telling him to hurry up and complaining and all other sorts of minutiae.  The difference is that he gave/gives updates.  Even updates you don't want to hear are updates.

And if he was 6 months to a year behind on any GB, I'd start complaining, especially if he went silent and there were no real updates in the thread.  It doesn't matter who ran the GB, if it was handled like this one, there would be complaints, and justified complaints at that.

Aside from the inanity of reverting to ad hominems against those who have valid concerns and questions they'd like answered, you can't, at this point, say TJ is "so active in this community".  He has been in the past, but he is noticeably quiet in most of the forum.  I get that he is a busy guy and respect that.  I also understand that he took on a large responsibility, probably too large of one, but that doesn't absolve him of not providing updates. 

Additionally, most people aren't attacking TJ (though you seem to think so), they just want to know what's happening.  It's the lack of respect for our money and investment that is irksome.  If you categorize that as "harassment" then so be it, but it's just people who have invested money into a project wanting to know that there will be returns on their investment.  Asking for updates and a timeline on the project is no more harassment then stockholders asking a business for a quarterly report.

You're entitled to your opinion though.  On the other hand, so are we.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: agodinhost on Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:33:20
it has been already pointed out, but I believe that the only problem here is that the GB started too soon.

well anyway, sooner or later I'll get my GH60, in the mean time I'll keep building my customs.
Please!
more awesome keycaps man!
 :-*

I guess he was talking about his custom keyboards and not keycaps.

Check this thread out for example:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59827.0
Naaaaa
I'm always envy of his stuff - gosh!!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jabar on Fri, 11 July 2014, 19:34:23
I am moving so my address will change. Who to PM?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Fri, 11 July 2014, 21:54:42
i haven't really been keeping track of whatever other people may or may not be saying/doing, but i haven't attacked or harassed anyone. I haven't even PM'd anyone, especially not TJ. Why? Because "golden rule," and, because i figure if he logs in and sees a cascade of hate mail in his inbox, that's probably not going to help our situation, and that's not something i want to contribute.

JD has been here periodically, so i can't blame him for anything. Komar made the damn board, and has given sparse but periodic updates, so i can't blame him for anything either. ApocalypseMaow stepped up and saved the friggin' day w/ plates, so how could i be upset w/ him? He disappeared for a little while, but didn't STAY disappeared, and completed what he volunteered to do, with very little nudging required, and with his own funds, no less (apparently). Can't be mad at him either.

WFD disappeared, but i don't know that i can be upset about that, because "personal issues" can put people in a place where they just can't stand the thought of having to deal with any extra anything at all. I've been there myself, i understand that... but if *I* knew i had hundreds of people and several hundred items and many thousands of dollars *depending* on my actions, i have to say, it would take some extremely serious problems to stop me from at least popping in to say "hey guys, sorry, my life just got ****ed, and i just can't deal with any of this right now... maybe someone can take over for me?" I think i would do that, but i don't know i would, because it's not my situation.

TJ? I have no idea what to think, but he feels disappeared to me. We need less disappearing and more not being afraid or profoundly disinclined to communicate.

I don't "hate" anyone yet, but come on... it's not like he has to face a supreme court over allegations of child endangerment or anything. It's some keyboards. And it's a bunch of people who knew this might take some time, and knew things could be delayed for any number of reasons, and are glad anyone was available to step into the vacuum created by the previous disappearance. But now it seems like the GH60 lead role is some kind of "bermuda triangle." Is it a myth, superstition, or a legit phenomenon?

Are we "crazy" to feel like dude disappeared?

Are we "crazy" to be a bit wary from the previous disappearance?

Are we "crazy" to want to know wtf is going on?

Nope.


I think we'd be quite a bit more understanding, overall, than any "pitchfork mob." That's just hyperbole. And you know what? Even if people DID flip tables and post multiple volatile comments... dude, it's just words on the internet. No one's house is getting burned down, no one's getting strapped to a stake and torched.

The fact that he can't even arrive to the forum to deposit some useful words, frankly has me the most worried... not just for my/everyone's stuff, but for the dude's well being; and i don't even know him.

How emotionally/psychologically compromised does someone really have to be, that they can't even post in a forum, for the sake of a project they currently hold all the keys to completing? Whatever it is, it must really suck. The last thing i would want to do is hyper-flame a guy who can't even bring himself to face a forum for a little while.

Or, maybe he's just like "F this, F that, F you guys, i'll do it when i feel like it, whatever..." and if that's the case, then we need to know, so we can attempt to nominate an appropriate person who can get this done.

IMHO
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 12 July 2014, 01:44:35
What exactly is holding this groupbuy back? I can't even remember how many batches of GH60 groupbuy has happened in China. Production shouldn't take this long.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 12 July 2014, 03:31:19
No one knows exactly what is holding the GB back, mostly the disappearance of the organisers and lack of communication. At this rate I may just buy a Spirit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 12 July 2014, 06:49:09
So what we know is plates are made, paid for and delivered, PCB's are on hand, switches are on hand and stabilizers are a ? Assembly still needs to happen for those that paid for it, which is a daunting tasks in itself.

TJ is a busy guy but he is a business man and I don't think he would leave us hanging at the end of the day and yes he has had lots of extra money sitting in his PayPal account for a while which can cause issues (taxes etc) of course the corresponding money should have been spent already for parts received so all that is left is shipping money and stabilizers money and assembly money?

Personally since I can't PM TJ I asked jdcarpe to PM him a while ago letting him know I no longer need assembly and/or stabilizers just the PCB, plate and switches, the extra money I paid for the other things can go to whatever they need to to get this continuing along.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 12 July 2014, 19:31:37
Agreed. I did order wires and stabs… but seriously, if this outgrew any possible organisation I'd be happy just to get my hands on the plates and komars PCB :)
That said - I did order my switches from 7bit around the same time and a lack of MX-Blacks (of which I ordered two samples :D) is still holding it up.

Some hint on the intended progression would be nice of course.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: numiru on Sun, 13 July 2014, 21:40:19
Does anyone have any info on if and when mechanicalkeyboards.com will stock the GH60 PCBs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 13 July 2014, 21:44:04
Does anyone have any info on if and when mechanicalkeyboards.com will stock the GH60 PCBs?

Some time after the GB actually starts delivering stuff...so, say December 2016?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 14 July 2014, 02:38:37
I feel like typing a proper wall of text but I'd only be echoing the sentiments from the above posts.  I only ordered 2 PCBs and 1 plate knowing that I would source everything else myself.  As far as I am aware both the PCBs and plates have been produced and received so I don't honestly know what the hold up is - surely they just need putting in a box and shipping to me right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: bear95 on Mon, 14 July 2014, 04:18:59
Does anyone have any info on if and when mechanicalkeyboards.com will stock the GH60 PCBs?

Some time after the GB actually starts delivering stuff...so, say December 2016?

And I thought expecting this to come out 2015 was good enough
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 14 July 2014, 07:35:25
For a lot of us I don't see any reason why we can't have out stuff in 2014 (like NOW).  For people having stabs and / or switches and / or assembly that's a different matter.

Unless there's something I'm missing I'm just imagining all of the PCBs and plates sat in TJ's garage / shed / front room literally waiting to be sent out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Mon, 14 July 2014, 07:45:00
For a lot of us I don't see any reason why we can't have out stuff in 2014 (like NOW).  For people having stabs and / or switches and / or assembly that's a different matter.

Unless there's something I'm missing I'm just imagining all of the PCBs and plates sat in TJ's garage / shed / front room literally waiting to be sent out.

It would be good to check with everyone who wanted pre soldered boards to see if they would still want them if they have to wait more. That might reduce the amount of work that is required to get this shipping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Mon, 14 July 2014, 09:57:38
It would be good to check with everyone who wanted pre soldered boards to see if they would still want them if they have to wait more. That might reduce the amount of work that is required to get this shipping.

Agreed. However, we're still in limbo until whomever is now in charge of this group buy steps up and gives us a status update.

It irks me that TJ has had another crumbled group buy land in his lap (CCnG R2 anyone?) and he's having polish another turd while the angry mob takes whacks out of him like a piñata hoping something will break loose.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 14 July 2014, 11:07:15
someone able to find out about where these people live and see if someone can pop over and actually ask them what the hell is going on, possible get an update that way perhaps see if we can find a candidate to take over?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 14 July 2014, 11:22:37
Seriously?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 14 July 2014, 11:30:46
Seriously?

Sweet JD is taking over!!

More
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 14 July 2014, 11:40:34
someone able to find out about where these people live and see if someone can pop over and actually ask them what the hell is going on, possible get an update that way perhaps see if we can find a candidate to take over?

This is extreme and unnecessary, and kind of scary.  We are nowhere near the point where we need to form a literal mob.  An internet mob is more than enough at this point.

I am confident that as soon as there is something to say, TJ will say it.  Yes, it's nice to hear "no updates", and radio silence is sketchy, but TJ is dependable and has done a great job of taking over GBs before.  That said, your frustration is understandable.  I just don't think taking action like this is productive.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Mon, 14 July 2014, 12:13:56
Yeah, let's not (literally) go there.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 14 July 2014, 13:53:53
Glad to check in a see everything is going well with this GB.



****.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 14 July 2014, 16:19:01
Plates, switches and pcb variants are in my possession.  Next will be separating and getting a system set up so I can efficiently work through orders for packaging, assembly and packing (once usps finally delivers all the mfrb I ordered).  I don't really have a timeline for all of this because of several reasons.

Stabilizer money will be refunded after the buy is complete as the whole mess of getting them would have legitimately added 6 months to the buy at this point just to get 2x.  I would have had to hand bend all spacebar stabs and while WFD might have been willing, I am not. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: mashby on Mon, 14 July 2014, 16:37:58
Plates, switches and pcb variants are in my possession.  Next will be separating and getting a system set up so I can efficiently work through orders for packaging, assembly and packing (once usps finally delivers all the mfrb I ordered).  I don't really have a timeline for all of this because of several reasons.

Stabilizer money will be refunded after the buy is complete as the whole mess of getting them would have legitimately added 6 months to the buy at this point just to get 2x.  I would have had to hand bend all spacebar stabs and while WFD might have been willing, I am not.

Thank you TJ for giving us a status update.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: swill on Mon, 14 July 2014, 16:58:56
Plates, switches and pcb variants are in my possession.  Next will be separating and getting a system set up so I can efficiently work through orders for packaging, assembly and packing (once usps finally delivers all the mfrb I ordered).  I don't really have a timeline for all of this because of several reasons.

Stabilizer money will be refunded after the buy is complete as the whole mess of getting them would have legitimately added 6 months to the buy at this point just to get 2x.  I would have had to hand bend all spacebar stabs and while WFD might have been willing, I am not.

Thanks for the update TJ. We really appreciate all the hard work. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: pasph on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:09:44
Plates, switches and pcb variants are in my possession.  Next will be separating and getting a system set up so I can efficiently work through orders for packaging, assembly and packing (once usps finally delivers all the mfrb I ordered).  I don't really have a timeline for all of this because of several reasons.

Stabilizer money will be refunded after the buy is complete as the whole mess of getting them would have legitimately added 6 months to the buy at this point just to get 2x.  I would have had to hand bend all spacebar stabs and while WFD might have been willing, I am not. 

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Broadmonkey on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:37:12
Thanks for the update, TJ! We appreciate it :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 14 July 2014, 17:40:24
Plates, switches and pcb variants are in my possession.  Next will be separating and getting a system set up so I can efficiently work through orders for packaging, assembly and packing (once usps finally delivers all the mfrb I ordered).  I don't really have a timeline for all of this because of several reasons.

Stabilizer money will be refunded after the buy is complete as the whole mess of getting them would have legitimately added 6 months to the buy at this point just to get 2x.  I would have had to hand bend all spacebar stabs and while WFD might have been willing, I am not.

That's all we wanted, thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 14 July 2014, 18:25:30
Thanks TJ, it's good to hear that this still has traction and letting us know where everything is and the plan.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 14 July 2014, 21:34:08
Now i feel like an *******. Good to hear TJ  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 15 July 2014, 01:54:32
say what you want, but it was my motivational picture (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg1394549#msg1394549) that rocked the boat!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 15 July 2014, 03:28:55
That picture would rock even a battleship   :cool:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Tue, 15 July 2014, 07:03:43
Plates, switches and pcb variants are in my possession.  Next will be separating and getting a system set up so I can efficiently work through orders for packaging, assembly and packing (once usps finally delivers all the mfrb I ordered).  I don't really have a timeline for all of this because of several reasons.

Stabilizer money will be refunded after the buy is complete as the whole mess of getting them would have legitimately added 6 months to the buy at this point just to get 2x.  I would have had to hand bend all spacebar stabs and while WFD might have been willing, I am not. 

Thank You! Glad to see you well.

say what you want, but it was my motivational picture (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg1394549#msg1394549) that rocked the boat!

That picture would rock even a battleship   :cool:

That picture sank my battleship.

Okay not really, i just thought it would be funny to say that. Insert torpedo joke, motion of the ocean joke, and various other supplemental marine-level innuendo.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION FOR REAL)
Post by: boost on Tue, 15 July 2014, 07:35:03
Plates, switches and pcb variants are in my possession.  Next will be separating and getting a system set up so I can efficiently work through orders for packaging, assembly and packing (once usps finally delivers all the mfrb I ordered).  I don't really have a timeline for all of this because of several reasons.

Stabilizer money will be refunded after the buy is complete as the whole mess of getting them would have legitimately added 6 months to the buy at this point just to get 2x.  I would have had to hand bend all spacebar stabs and while WFD might have been willing, I am not.

That's all we wanted, thanks

this^^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 15 July 2014, 09:37:43
Updated OP with current status reflecting TJ's update post.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Jmneuv on Tue, 15 July 2014, 10:19:04
You could add a colorful date to the updates.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 15 July 2014, 10:30:52
You could add a colorful date to the updates.

Huh?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Turbinia on Tue, 15 July 2014, 10:38:11
It would be good to check with everyone who wanted pre soldered boards to see if they would still want them if they have to wait more. That might reduce the amount of work that is required to get this shipping.

I would second this, assuming it doesn't create more issues. My soldering iron is feeling so underutilized and lonely.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 15 July 2014, 10:38:17
You could add a colorful date to the updates.

Huh?

I'm confused as well but I think he wants COLORS
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 15 July 2014, 10:39:01
Thank you for the update. Sorry i never meant an internet mob i just meant one person politely asking perhaps what was going on. Nothing serious, i guess thats by the by now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 15 July 2014, 10:47:39
You could add a colorful date to the updates.

Huh?

I believe this is it

(http://i.imgur.com/gC8bQcM.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 15 July 2014, 11:51:13
Right on time! This badboy is going in the DuckMiniV2!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 15 July 2014, 16:14:12
Now we have a word on the stabs not happening is anyone thinking about a group buy for these?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 15 July 2014, 16:31:26
Now we have a word on the stabs not happening is anyone thinking about a group buy for these?
I'd be down for some CoStar ones...  :-*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 15 July 2014, 16:42:37
I'm seriously glad to see the update fron from TJ, that's all I wanted. I'm sad to hear about the stabs though so I would be thrilled if someone did a gb for co-star and cherry
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: swill on Tue, 15 July 2014, 17:10:51
Now we have a word on the stabs not happening is anyone thinking about a group buy for these?

I will probably just buy cherry stabs from Sprit's round two GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Xenderwind on Tue, 15 July 2014, 17:13:58
Now we have a word on the stabs not happening is anyone thinking about a group buy for these?

I will probably just buy cherry stabs from Sprit's round two GB.

Shipping from Korea isn't cheap.  Also not sure he would want people jumping in just for stabs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: swill on Tue, 15 July 2014, 17:59:24
Now we have a word on the stabs not happening is anyone thinking about a group buy for these?

I will probably just buy cherry stabs from Sprit's round two GB.

Shipping from Korea isn't cheap.  Also not sure he would want people jumping in just for stabs.

For me (in Canada), shipping from anywhere isn't cheap, so that is something that I just live with.  They are small and light, so the shipping prices from sprit are actually reasonable.  Is it really worth the hassle of trying to organize another group buy in order to save 5$?  I am not sure it is...

Edit: IMSTO is another option (http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=55).  If someone proxies a large order (say 100-200 sets) then the shipping will be negligible.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 15 July 2014, 19:23:20
I could check in with GMK on Cherry stabs pricing as I'm pretty sure they would have them since they build keyboards that use them. Since I will be getting the Dolch order anyway shipping costs would be a non issue.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 15 July 2014, 19:24:12
Oh wow please do
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 15 July 2014, 19:39:29
I could check in with GMK on Cherry stabs pricing as I'm pretty sure they would have them since they build keyboards that use them. Since I will be getting the Dolch order anyway shipping costs would be a non issue.

This would be stellar.   :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 15 July 2014, 19:42:41
I don't think the issue was ever whether GMK or Cherry could supply stabilizers, but rather that the lead time for them was 6+ months.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 15 July 2014, 19:53:52
True, it would also depend on what they had available to ship at the same time. Will see what they say tomorrow.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: swill on Tue, 15 July 2014, 20:42:41
True, it would also depend on what they had available to ship at the same time. Will see what they say tomorrow.

Sweet. Thanks for checking into this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 16 July 2014, 08:18:21
GMK has 2, 6.25 AND 7 sizes available in both PCB and plate mount Cherry stabilizers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 16 July 2014, 08:20:33
GMK has 2, 6.25 AND 7 sizes available in both PCB and plate mount Cherry stabilizers.

I think most of us would take all of the above :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: swill on Wed, 16 July 2014, 08:49:54
GMK has 2, 6.25 AND 7 sizes available in both PCB and plate mount Cherry stabilizers.

Lead times? Do they have a bunch in stock?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 16 July 2014, 09:15:57
In stock, but they need to check inventory amounts and still waiting on bulk pricing quote.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: i3oilermaker on Wed, 16 July 2014, 09:19:32
In stock, but they need to check inventory amounts and still waiting on bulk pricing quote.

I would be happy to place a large order for techkeys if it helps with bulk pricing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 16 July 2014, 09:23:41
MX-Stabilizer Space (6.25 or 7.0)

MOQ 100 pcs., 0.969€/pc. (net, EXW)

MOQ 400 pcs., 0.925€/pc. (net, EXW)

 

MX-Stabilizer 2.0

MOQ 100 pcs., 0.880€/pc. (net, EXW)

MOQ 400 pcs., 0.840€/pc. (net, EXW)

Same prices for PCB or PLATE.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: MJ45 on Wed, 16 July 2014, 09:59:52
In stock, but they need to check inventory amounts and still waiting on bulk pricing quote.

I would be happy to place a large order for techkeys if it helps with bulk pricing.
I'm sure there would be lots of interest even outside this GH60 group buy for Cherry stablilizers easily availible.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 16 July 2014, 10:35:57
OK. I will get a groupbuy thread for stabilizer started soon. GMK says they have LOADS of them on hand so there shouldn't be any problem fulfilling our demand.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Wed, 16 July 2014, 10:40:34
Holy crap nice turnaround Ivan, very much appreciate doing this. o/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 16 July 2014, 11:30:01
OK. I will get a groupbuy thread for stabilizer started soon. GMK says they have LOADS of them on hand so there shouldn't be any problem fulfilling our demand.

Thanks Ivan.  That's a huge help.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 16 July 2014, 12:12:52
That's a really nice price and there's a lack of bending wire.  It makes total sense that they'd have them and would sell them, too.  I don't know why I didn't think to check.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 16 July 2014, 12:22:49
OK. I will get a groupbuy thread for stabilizer started soon. GMK says they have LOADS of them on hand so there shouldn't be any problem fulfilling our demand.

Thank you so much Ivan!

Not only do you run one GB after the other, now you also help finishing others :thumb:


So, will we get a full refund for Stabs now TJ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 16 July 2014, 12:25:23
OK. I will get a groupbuy thread for stabilizer started soon. GMK says they have LOADS of them on hand so there shouldn't be any problem fulfilling our demand.

Thank you so much Ivan!

Not only do you run one GB after the other, now you also help finishing others :thumb:


So, will we get a full refund for Stabs now TJ?

The discussion is to refund costar stabs and give ivan the money to buy and distribute cherry through the dolch buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: swill on Wed, 16 July 2014, 12:36:50
OK. I will get a groupbuy thread for stabilizer started soon. GMK says they have LOADS of them on hand so there shouldn't be any problem fulfilling our demand.

Thank you so much Ivan!

Not only do you run one GB after the other, now you also help finishing others :thumb:

So, will we get a full refund for Stabs now TJ?

The discussion is to refund costar stabs and give ivan the money to buy and distribute cherry through the dolch buy.

Thats great news.  Good work guys...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 16 July 2014, 12:45:04
I just wanted to say...

if there's anything I can do to help with the GB, just let me know.

GMK is in EU, maybe I can help proxing, or whatever. Well, you know where to find me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 16 July 2014, 12:54:16
OK. I will get a groupbuy thread for stabilizer started soon. GMK says they have LOADS of them on hand so there shouldn't be any problem fulfilling our demand.

Thank you so much Ivan!

Not only do you run one GB after the other, now you also help finishing others :thumb:


So, will we get a full refund for Stabs now TJ?

The discussion is to refund costar stabs and give ivan the money to buy and distribute cherry through the dolch buy.

Sounds good to me  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: chel- on Wed, 16 July 2014, 13:00:04
OK. I will get a groupbuy thread for stabilizer started soon. GMK says they have LOADS of them on hand so there shouldn't be any problem fulfilling our demand.

Thank you so much Ivan!

Not only do you run one GB after the other, now you also help finishing others :thumb:


So, will we get a full refund for Stabs now TJ?

The discussion is to refund costar stabs and give ivan the money to buy and distribute cherry through the dolch buy.

Do those of us who payed for assembly need to do anything?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: TDub on Wed, 16 July 2014, 15:26:27
Holy ****, didn't check Geekhack for a few days and came back to a nice surprise  :eek:
Can't wait  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: sprit on Wed, 16 July 2014, 17:00:30

I had produced  Total 20,000pcs of  2x,  6.25x, 7x  Stainless Metal wires in January for my GB R1 .
I can share some of these.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: watterrbottle on Wed, 16 July 2014, 18:00:20
OK. I will get a groupbuy thread for stabilizer started soon. GMK says they have LOADS of them on hand so there shouldn't be any problem fulfilling our demand.

i love you. THAT IS ALL :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 16 July 2014, 18:03:47
Lysol, be sure to check with me before shipping stabs. if TJ does give you money for them. My address seems to change every few months....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: jabar on Wed, 16 July 2014, 19:46:25
ATTENTION!

I will not have a stable address for the next month. Please do NOT ship to my current address. Thank you!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 16 July 2014, 20:26:57
Cherry plate mount... ummmmmmmmm

Nice one Ivan!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 17 July 2014, 01:00:03
In a couple days, I or jd will post an address change google doc in a couple places here for all that have moved in the past year or so to get it all in a central spot.  I know of a handful that have PMed one or the both of us already anyways.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: DanielT on Thu, 17 July 2014, 06:23:48
OK. I will get a groupbuy thread for stabilizer started soon. GMK says they have LOADS of them on hand so there shouldn't be any problem fulfilling our demand.
That is great!  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 17 July 2014, 19:28:38
OK. I will get a groupbuy thread for stabilizer started soon. GMK says they have LOADS of them on hand so there shouldn't be any problem fulfilling our demand.

Awesome. I need a lot of those.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Thu, 17 July 2014, 23:27:04
...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 17 July 2014, 23:28:12
so do we get refunded for the stabs?

The discussion is to refund costar stabs and give ivan the money to buy and distribute cherry through the dolch buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: swill on Thu, 17 July 2014, 23:29:44
so do we get refunded for the stabs?

Don't quote me on this, but I think the plan is to supply cherry plate and pcb mounted stabs to everyone who ordered them and refund the people who ordered coster stabilizers.

This might create too much work, but maybe it would be good if the people who ordered coster stabs could choose a refund or one of the cherry options.  Not sure if that is realistic though...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Fri, 18 July 2014, 08:26:36
It seems like this is good news, but I'm still quite confused. I ordered Costar stabs, so those will now become Cherry? Does this have any bearing on the switches at all?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: swill on Fri, 18 July 2014, 08:37:56
It seems like this is good news, but I'm still quite confused. I ordered Costar stabs, so those will now become Cherry? Does this have any bearing on the switches at all?

The official statement from what I can tell is that coster stabs will be refunded. The stab details are still getting worked out, so just watch this thread for a few weeks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: hoggy on Fri, 18 July 2014, 13:21:39
I take it that the cherry stabs have already been ordered?  I can't remember my order, if it was costar, I'd rather swap to cherry than get refunded.  Totally understand whatever happens.

Pleased to see some progress on this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Acanthophis on Fri, 18 July 2014, 13:37:04
Am I still getting stabs when I only ordered in this GB or do I have to put in an order at Ivan's?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 18 July 2014, 13:38:41
Am I still getting stabs when I only ordered in this GB or do I have to put in an order at Ivan's?

Recent communication indicated that the money would be refunded and it's up to us to work it out (ie, buy from Ivan).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Acanthophis on Fri, 18 July 2014, 13:48:24
Ok, thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Index on Fri, 18 July 2014, 15:12:46
Is there some method to confirm shipping addresses? I have moved a few times since I joined this GB back in forever ago.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 18 July 2014, 15:13:21
Is there some method to confirm shipping addresses? I have moved a few times since I joined this GB back in forever ago.

Coming soon...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Index on Fri, 18 July 2014, 15:15:40
Is there some method to confirm shipping addresses? I have moved a few times since I joined this GB back in forever ago.

Coming soon...

Thanks jdcarpe for the quick reply!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: swill on Fri, 18 July 2014, 16:30:33
Am I still getting stabs when I only ordered in this GB or do I have to put in an order at Ivan's?

Recent communication indicated that the money would be refunded and it's up to us to work it out (ie, buy from Ivan).

The most recent update that I have seen is TJ is planning to send funds to Ivan for the cherry stabs, so they would be fulfilled.  The coster stabs are going to be refunded according to what I last heard.

Keep in mind that the details here are still in flight and everyone is projecting statuses based on the limited detail we have been provided so far.  Lets not worry about it too much for a few weeks and let TJ and Ivan figure out how the cherry stab piece will be handled and I am sure we will be updated when they have a strategy and news for us.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: do_Og@n on Fri, 18 July 2014, 16:37:28
Is there some method to confirm shipping addresses? I have moved a few times since I joined this GB back in forever ago.

Coming soon...

Sweet, I was worried about this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 18 July 2014, 17:04:22
Am I still getting stabs when I only ordered in this GB or do I have to put in an order at Ivan's?

Recent communication indicated that the money would be refunded and it's up to us to work it out (ie, buy from Ivan).

The most recent update that I have seen is TJ is planning to send funds to Ivan for the cherry stabs, so they would be fulfilled.  The coster stabs are going to be refunded according to what I last heard.

Keep in mind that the details here are still in flight and everyone is projecting statuses based on the limited detail we have been provided so far.  Lets not worry about it too much for a few weeks and let TJ and Ivan figure out how the cherry stab piece will be handled and I am sure we will be updated when they have a strategy and news for us.

Oh.  Maybe I shouldn't have ordered so many stabs in the GB then...  xD
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: swill on Fri, 18 July 2014, 17:09:30
Am I still getting stabs when I only ordered in this GB or do I have to put in an order at Ivan's?

Recent communication indicated that the money would be refunded and it's up to us to work it out (ie, buy from Ivan).

The most recent update that I have seen is TJ is planning to send funds to Ivan for the cherry stabs, so they would be fulfilled.  The coster stabs are going to be refunded according to what I last heard.

Keep in mind that the details here are still in flight and everyone is projecting statuses based on the limited detail we have been provided so far.  Lets not worry about it too much for a few weeks and let TJ and Ivan figure out how the cherry stab piece will be handled and I am sure we will be updated when they have a strategy and news for us.

Oh.  Maybe I shouldn't have ordered so many stabs in the GB then...  xD

there are always people looking for stabs, so I doubt you will have extras for long...  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: nil on Sun, 20 July 2014, 16:47:39
I don't think I'm the only one in this situation but I ordered costar stabs, and also assembly, and I'd be happy to switch to cherry stabs if it means that the keyboard can still be assembled.

For people like me: should we order cherry stabs from Ivan's groupbuy, ask that he ships our orders to whomever the GH60 assembler is, and wait for our costar refund? Or can someone on the GH60 organizer side put in an order of cherry stabs for us so it saves time on both our parts? (If the latter, I'd be happy to replace my 7x Costar stabs with 7x plate-mounted Cherry stabs)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 20 July 2014, 16:51:02
The logistics of getting everyone's approval for this are going to be a nightmare. But I personally think that everyone who ordered Costar stabs should get Cherry stabs, instead. That way everyone who ordered stabs would at least get some stabs, even if they weren't the ones they really wanted.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Turbinia on Sun, 20 July 2014, 18:04:23
If it comes to a vote jdcarpe, I vote yes to the Cherry stabs. It is just a few dollars either way and it is better than nothing and having no choice but to source your own stabs. Great to see this moving forward even with all the difficulties. We are almost there!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: kekstee on Sun, 20 July 2014, 18:34:02
I'm going to order additional stabs from Ivan anyway, which makes it seem easier to drop mine from this gb. Would this be a reasonable option or more work in the end?
(also the set mentioned here would be 4*2u + the selected spacebar, correct?)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: swill on Sun, 20 July 2014, 19:35:10
I'm going to order additional stabs from Ivan anyway, which makes it seem easier to drop mine from this gb. Would this be a reasonable option or more work in the end?
(also the set mentioned here would be 4*2u + the selected spacebar, correct?)

Yes that is correct.

I also ordered stabs from Ivan to be safe.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: swill on Sun, 20 July 2014, 19:40:02
The logistics of getting everyone's approval for this are going to be a nightmare. But I personally think that everyone who ordered Costar stabs should get Cherry stabs, instead. That way everyone who ordered stabs would at least get some stabs, even if they weren't the ones they really wanted.

I agree, I think it would be insane to do the logistics of letting people choose.

I also agree that replacing coster stabs with cherry would be a great option. Having some stabs is better than not.  I think people in this GB are generally willing to compromise a bit to move things forward smoothly.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: bear95 on Mon, 21 July 2014, 04:59:22
Agree. Ordered costart stabs but if they're isn't much of a difference between the two I would rather get cherry stabs than go through the work of ordering costar ones from elsewhere.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: mauri on Mon, 21 July 2014, 07:37:57
Agree. Ordered costart stabs but if they're isn't much of a difference between the two I would rather get cherry stabs than go through the work of ordering costar ones from elsewhere.

iirc cherry stabs only worked with the universal plate
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 21 July 2014, 08:10:07
Agree. Ordered costart stabs but if they're isn't much of a difference between the two I would rather get cherry stabs than go through the work of ordering costar ones from elsewhere.

iirc cherry stabs only worked with the universal plate

Every plate from this group buy will support either Cherry or Costar stabilizers, and the PCB supports Cherry PCB mount stabilizers.

The "Universal" plates, however, REQUIRE use of Cherry PCB mount stabilizers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 21 July 2014, 08:11:11
iirc cherry stabs only worked with the universal plate

Quoted from the OP:

Quote
Each of the layouts above will have their own plates [...], compatible with all 3 types of stabilizers.
In addition, there will be 2 more “universal” plates available. [...] The drawback is that you must use PCB-mounted cherry stabilizers, no other stabilizers option.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: vorn on Tue, 22 July 2014, 01:04:59
Pumped!!  :D :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 22 July 2014, 01:22:43
Do I read "PREPARING TO SHIP"?

(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj619/Pilot_31/tumblr_lxwyyylTwK1qgj4zoo1_250.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 22 July 2014, 11:35:54
is there a 3d file i can download to have my own universal iso plate cut? I missed out on getting one originally. (unless anyone else has one available?)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 22 July 2014, 13:44:55
You need a 2D file for getting a plate cut, there should be something around here on the forums, what case do you plan to use it with?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: swill on Tue, 22 July 2014, 20:03:42
Do I read "PREPARING TO SHIP"?

Show Image
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj619/Pilot_31/tumblr_lxwyyylTwK1qgj4zoo1_250.gif)


You do, but don't expect shipping to happen before ivan's dolch gb is received.

I still think we are a little ways off from getting them, but everything is basically accounted for from what I can tell. I doubt shipping will start till the stabs are in hand.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: boost on Wed, 23 July 2014, 07:49:36
Do I read "PREPARING TO SHIP"?

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Doesn't do much since it took months to get a update...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: hellerbarde on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:00:48
Do I read "PREPARING TO SHIP"?

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Doesn't do much since it took months to get a update...

Oh, ye of little faith! ;D

I'm getting excited! Go GH60!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PREPARING TO SHIP)
Post by: boost on Wed, 23 July 2014, 08:10:20
Do I read "PREPARING TO SHIP"?

Show Image
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Doesn't do much since it took months to get a update...

Oh, ye of little faith! ;D

I'm getting excited! Go GH60!

Until they actually ship, no need to get excited. Maybe we'll get another updated in a few months...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 23 July 2014, 09:25:28
Do I read "PREPARING TO SHIP"?

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Doesn't do much since it took months to get a update...

Oh, ye of little faith! ;D

I'm getting excited! Go GH60!

Until they actually ship, no need to get excited. Maybe we'll get another updated in a few months...

Oh snap!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 24 July 2014, 03:21:02
I see that shipping has been delayed until stabilizers are received.  What about those of us that haven't ordered stabilizers?  Can't we just have our stuff already?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pexon on Thu, 24 July 2014, 03:33:13
I'd be happy to take my order without stabs if possible, I've got Cherry and Costar stabs here waiting.

If at all possible, I'd love for my order to be shipped without them
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Jmneuv on Thu, 24 July 2014, 04:38:37
What are you going to be ordering in place of costar stabs?

Can we get a date next to the changes in OP? (ok without colors)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 24 July 2014, 09:27:00
I know this is probably somewhere in the last 132 pages, but what about those of us who only need the PCB and plate?

Are we waiting for stabs as well?

Thanks in advance,

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 24 July 2014, 10:28:04
I know this is probably somewhere in the last 132 pages, but what about those of us who only need the PCB and plate?

Are we waiting for stabs as well?

Thanks in advance,

 - Ron | samwisekoi

I can't see why we wouldn't be able to have our stuff early to be honest but I have a bad feeling that this will be the case...  Surely it would make more sense for those orders where everything is on hand to be sent out now - that way some orders are sent now and some later rather than having to pack and ship all the orders at the same time later.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Thu, 24 July 2014, 10:34:32
I know this is probably somewhere in the last 132 pages, but what about those of us who only need the PCB and plate?

Are we waiting for stabs as well?

Thanks in advance,

 - Ron | samwisekoi

*waits for update in 2015*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 24 July 2014, 10:44:47
You guys sure are ****s. Yeah, the GB is delayed as hell, but how do you think the organizers feel about it, holding everyone's money and unable to deliver? Do you think they don't want to get this over with and give everyone their god damn boards? Do you really think mocking them will get anyone anywhere? Give it a rest already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 24 July 2014, 10:50:24
What do you mean unable to deliver?  Surely having most of the components for all of the orders and all of the components for some orders means that they are in a perfect position to deliver.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 24 July 2014, 10:52:29
Perhaps they are trying to be fair and wait until everyone can have their new toys? I don't think I'd mind other people getting theirs before I get mine, but I'm sure some people would be pretty miffed. The only way to avoid such nonsense is to wait.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 24 July 2014, 10:55:38
So you'd rather definitely annoy some people than possibly annoy others?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 July 2014, 10:59:47
I should really just lock this thread and post updates when available...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:05:20
You guys sure are ****s. Yeah, the GB is delayed as hell, but how do you think the organizers feel about it, holding everyone's money and unable to deliver? Do you think they don't want to get this over with and give everyone their god damn boards? Do you really think mocking them will get anyone anywhere? Give it a rest already.

If that's how you feel, send me $120 and I'll get you an asembled Phantom.  Don't worry if I disappear for six months with no updates or tell you to be patient after a year because I'm having a hard time sourcing a Teensy I should have bought at the start of things. 

Do I feel bad for the position TJ is in? Yes, but this thing has been a disaster for a year.  Let people vent their frustration, especially when it comes to simple questions that have gone unanswered for a while.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:10:09
stupid phone double posting

 
I should really just lock this thread and post updates when available...

You know that would start a witch hunt.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:19:03
I know this is probably somewhere in the last 132 pages, but what about those of us who only need the PCB and plate?

Are we waiting for stabs as well?

Thanks in advance,

 - Ron | samwisekoi

When I updated the OP to say that we are waiting on stabs, it was more to inform people who had ordered them that we are waiting on them, and that we won't be shipping partial orders or refunding stab money.

I can't speak for TJ, but I seriously doubt he is waiting on the stabilizers to arrive to ship orders that don't have stabilizers. But after personally going through the orders spreadsheet just this morning, the VAST majority of orders in this group buy include stabilizers. There are literally just a handful of orders that don't include stabs.




I should really just lock this thread and post updates when available...

You know that would start a witch hunt.

IDGAF.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:19:55
You guys sure are ****s. Yeah, the GB is delayed as hell, but how do you think the organizers feel about it, holding everyone's money and unable to deliver? Do you think they don't want to get this over with and give everyone their god damn boards? Do you really think mocking them will get anyone anywhere? Give it a rest already.

Um, Mr. (Ms.) mkaito with 87 post to your name, have YOU run the largest GB logistics and shipping operation in the history of GeekHack?  No, that was me.*

I know all of the people involved, and very much more about how this process works than you.  So do JD and Nub.  I asked a reasonable question in a reasonable (IMHO) tone.  TJCaustin knows what he is doing, and earned his title of King Klaxon through feats of action, not words.  (Actually, talking to tjcaustin, my tone was VERY measured.)

If The King decides to reply to me with "godammit Ron, all of the PCBs are in one goddam box, and I'm not busting it open just for the people who aren't having assembly done" then I'll say, fair enough.

When you have a wall of custom and rare keyboards behind YOUR desk, then and only then can you accuse others of mocking or being ****s.

Also, oh look.  I am an Admin here.  Flagged for moderation.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

* [edit] To be fair, that might have been TJ, with his awesome "wheel of sorting" process.  One of the two of us, anyhow.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:25:01
.... So I might get banned because I made a general statement about expecting a more civilized discussion? Interesting.

EDIT: I absolutely don't see how I need to run a group buy or have $10k in keyboards in order to be a civilized person.

EDIT2: I'm curious as to why you're taking my statement personally, when I meant it generally, samwisekoi.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bear95 on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:35:51
.... So I might get banned because I made a general statement about expecting a more civilized discussion? Interesting.

EDIT: I absolutely don't see how I need to run a group buy or have $10k in keyboards in order to be a civilized person.

EDIT2: I'm curious as to why you're taking my statement personally, when I meant it generally, samwisekoi.
I dont know man but I find your posts more aggressive and uncivilized than the others.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:37:43
.... So I might get banned because I made a general statement about expecting a more civilized discussion? Interesting.

EDIT: I absolutely don't see how I need to run a group buy or have $10k in keyboards in order to be a civilized person.

EDIT2: I'm curious as to why you're taking my statement personally, when I meant it generally, samwisekoi.
I dont know man but I find your posts more aggressive and uncivilized than the others.

Well, my bad. My intention was to try and get people to be a little more emphatic, not to stir up a **** storm. Please accept my humblest apologies.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:38:43
You guys sure are ****s. Yeah, the GB is delayed as hell, but how do you think the organizers feel about it, holding everyone's money and unable to deliver? Do you think they don't want to get this over with and give everyone their god damn boards? Do you really think mocking them will get anyone anywhere? Give it a rest already.

1) "You guys sure are ****s."

How could I take that personally?

2) "How do you think the organizers feel about...?"

Well, how I could know was by actually being in that position with ten of thousands of other peoples' money and needing to figure out an equitable way to get everything out as quickly as fairly as possible.  That';s how I could know.  How could you?

3) "Do you really think mocking them will get anyone anywhere?"

No, that's why I didn't mock THEM.  I mocked YOU.

4) "Give it a rest already."

Actually, I did.  I posted a question, and JD actually looked into it and replied.  I made no other reply until YOU decided to help me understand my place in this GB and how it should be run from your lofty perspective.

And just in case you think I am new to this group buy, go to Page 1, look at the plates that were made, and notice WHO designed them.  See any familiar names there?

You're not going to get banned, but you should decide to take your medicine and chill.

Or you could bring your knife back to a gun fight.

Geez.  Now I am going to have to report myself for being in a flame war!

JD, thanks for checking into the order list.  I appreciate the actual answer to my question, and I am truly sorry it got spun up into something it needn't have been.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bear95 on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:42:44
Is it possible to post in this thread and in the op about a groupbuy for costar stabilizers in the event one pops up? Not in the habit of checking the marketplace often for the fear of my wallet and I dont want be left stabilizerless because I didnt check.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:47:50
You guys sure are ****s. Yeah, the GB is delayed as hell, but how do you think the organizers feel about it, holding everyone's money and unable to deliver? Do you think they don't want to get this over with and give everyone their god damn boards? Do you really think mocking them will get anyone anywhere? Give it a rest already.

1) "You guys sure are ****s."

How could I take that personally?

I wasn't aware "****s" was such a terrible word. Perhaps I should have said "dummies", or "meanies" or something.

2) "How do you think the organizers feel about...?"

Well, how I could know was by actually being in that position with ten of thousands of other peoples' money and needing to figure out an equitable way to get everything out as quickly as fairly as possible.  That';s how I could know.  How could you?

Because I've been in that situation before. Holding a large sum of money, and unable to deliver for reasons outside of my control. It sucks. A lot.

3) "Do you really think mocking them will get anyone anywhere?"

No, that's why I didn't mock THEM.  I mocked YOU.

I wasn't talking about you. This was the post I had in miind when writing that:

*waits for update in 2015*

And when I posted that, you had evidently not replied to me, so I'm not sure how you figured I was talking about you mocking anyone.

4) "Give it a rest already."

Actually, I did.  I posted a question, and JD actually looked into it and replied.  I made no other reply until YOU decided to help me understand my place in this GB and how it should be run from your lofty perspective.

Seriously, you need to stop taking things personally. As I said above, I wanted to prompt the complainers to be a little more emphatic. I'm still clueless as to how you thought I meant your question when I said people were being ****s.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:49:54
Is it possible to post in this thread and in the op about a groupbuy for costar stabilizers in the event one pops up? Not in the habit of checking the marketplace often for the fear of my wallet and I dont want be left stabilizerless because I didnt check.

I've never seen a group buy for Costar stabilizers. I shudder to think what the MOQ for ordering direct from Costar in Taiwan may be. You can sometimes (when they are in stock) get them from WASDkeyboards.com, and I heard that QWER.io may be carrying them soon, as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bear95 on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:52:08
Also, this may be an unrelated question but is buying stabilizers or any keyboard parts for the matter cheaper in korea?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:54:35
Is it possible to post in this thread and in the op about a groupbuy for costar stabilizers in the event one pops up? Not in the habit of checking the marketplace often for the fear of my wallet and I dont want be left stabilizerless because I didnt check.

I've never seen a group buy for Costar stabilizers. I shudder to think what the MOQ for ordering direct from Costar in Taiwan may be. You can sometimes (when they are in stock) get them from WASDkeyboards.com, and I heard that QWER.io may be carrying them soon, as well.

I think MechanicalKeyboards.com has them in stock, but they are quite expensive.  Their reps usually pretty responsive - I don't know if anyone has tried reaching out to them for bulk Costar stab ordering, although based on what I see from their website (WASD logo on the item picture), they probably don't source directly from Costar.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:56:26
Also, this may be an unrelated question but is buying stabilizers or any keyboard parts for the matter cheaper in korea?

Only the Koreans may know the answer...



When I see your username:

(http://i.imgur.com/sML5ylG.jpg)





I think MechanicalKeyboards.com has them in stock, but they are quite expensive.  Their reps usually pretty responsive - I don't know if anyone has tried reaching out to them for bulk Costar stab ordering, although based on what I see from their website (WASD logo on the item picture), they probably don't source directly from Costar.

I think the problem is one of cost. That is, ordering them from a retail source, rather than from a distributor.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 24 July 2014, 11:59:06
When I see your username:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/sML5ylG.jpg)


I wonder if I'm the only one who caught that reference JD :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:00:05
I think MechanicalKeyboards.com has them in stock, but they are quite expensive.  Their reps usually pretty responsive - I don't know if anyone has tried reaching out to them for bulk Costar stab ordering, although based on what I see from their website (WASD logo on the item picture), they probably don't source directly from Costar.

I think the problem is one of cost. That is, ordering them from a retail source, rather than from a distributor.

You are right.  Cost is the probably the only reason MK still has them in stock even though they get them from WASD which is usually out of stock.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:01:30
You guys sure are ****s. Yeah, the GB is delayed as hell, but how do you think the organizers feel about it, holding everyone's money and unable to deliver? Do you think they don't want to get this over with and give everyone their god damn boards? Do you really think mocking them will get anyone anywhere? Give it a rest already.

If that's how you feel, send me $120 and I'll get you an asembled Phantom.  Don't worry if I disappear for six months with no updates or tell you to be patient after a year because I'm having a hard time sourcing a Teensy I should have bought at the start of things. 




^^this
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bear95 on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:05:38
Also, this may be an unrelated question but is buying stabilizers or any keyboard parts for the matter cheaper in korea?

Only the Koreans may know the answer...



When I see your username:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/sML5ylG.jpg)

Heh, thats actually pretty sweet! This is actually just a random username my dad made dor me when I was little.


I actually moved to korea somewhat recently for college. I should probably check out some electronic centers :P. I wonder if any places might have a stockpile for sale at a decent price and perhaps I can help provide costar stabs for this gb heh heh heh.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:06:00
You guys sure are ****s. Yeah, the GB is delayed as hell, but how do you think the organizers feel about it, holding everyone's money and unable to deliver? Do you think they don't want to get this over with and give everyone their god damn boards? Do you really think mocking them will get anyone anywhere? Give it a rest already.

If that's how you feel, send me $120 and I'll get you an asembled Phantom.  Don't worry if I disappear for six months with no updates or tell you to be patient after a year because I'm having a hard time sourcing a Teensy I should have bought at the start of things. 




^^this



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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:08:04
You guys sure are ****s. Yeah, the GB is delayed as hell, but how do you think the organizers feel about it, holding everyone's money and unable to deliver? Do you think they don't want to get this over with and give everyone their god damn boards? Do you really think mocking them will get anyone anywhere? Give it a rest already.

If that's how you feel, send me $120 and I'll get you an asembled Phantom.  Don't worry if I disappear for six months with no updates or tell you to be patient after a year because I'm having a hard time sourcing a Teensy I should have bought at the start of things. 




^^this



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Trolling - Trolling can be defined as when a member posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages with the primary intent or consequence of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. Trolling can also be accomplished by harassing another member by following them through various threads, creating threads directed at another member or group of members, or intentionally creating the same thread in various forums despite being warned or told to post in the correct forum.  Members who feel they are being "trolled" should contact a moderator immediately, as this is the only effective way to prevent this behavior.

I'm venting...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tsangan on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:10:26
I see this is still going on...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:11:40
I see this is still going on...

and will still be going on next year...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:16:36
I <3 U boost, but


feel free to vent...somewhere else.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:17:26
I <3 U boost, but


feel free to vent...somewhere else.

We have a thread for this!

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50202.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:17:50
I <3 U boost, but


feel free to vent...somewhere else.

ok :D

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:27:26
ok :D

vent about things in irc with me   ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Jmneuv on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:46:04
Costar stabs going to be transformed to cherry plate stabs?
(got to know if i will need to order with ivan)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:47:00
Costar stabs going to be transformed to cherry plate stabs?
(got to know if i need to order with ivan)

Correct.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Jmneuv on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:47:23
Excellent, thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 24 July 2014, 12:59:10
Just to confirm... the GH60 team and myself are working on getting the Cherry stabilizer issue resolved. If you had an existing order for Cherry stabilizers here you do not need to order again from the Cherry Stabilizers groupbuy thread unless you wanted to ADD more. ETA for stabs will be something like another 4-6 weeks since I will be having them shipped along with the Dolch keycaps order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 24 July 2014, 13:41:57
You guys sure are ****s. Yeah, the GB is delayed as hell, but how do you think the organizers feel about it, holding everyone's money and unable to deliver? Do you think they don't want to get this over with and give everyone their god damn boards? Do you really think mocking them will get anyone anywhere? Give it a rest already.

Um, Mr. (Ms.) mkaito with 87 post to your name, have YOU run the largest GB logistics and shipping operation in the history of GeekHack?  No, that was me.*

I know all of the people involved, and very much more about how this process works than you.  So do JD and Nub.  I asked a reasonable question in a reasonable (IMHO) tone.  TJCaustin knows what he is doing, and earned his title of King Klaxon through feats of action, not words.  (Actually, talking to tjcaustin, my tone was VERY measured.)

If The King decides to reply to me with "godammit Ron, all of the PCBs are in one goddam box, and I'm not busting it open just for the people who aren't having assembly done" then I'll say, fair enough.

When you have a wall of custom and rare keyboards behind YOUR desk, then and only then can you accuse others of mocking or being ****s.

Also, oh look.  I am an Admin here.  Flagged for moderation.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

* [edit] To be fair, that might have been TJ, with his awesome "wheel of sorting" process.  One of the two of us, anyhow.

My real concern with sending some orders before others (and partial orders get the added "benefit" of double shipping if I did this...) is logistics.  I think we can both agree part of the major success of DSA retro was the from-the-ground-up ordering platform that matt3o made for it. 

Meaning that I worry cherry-picking orders out of a 200+ line google spreadsheet might be more fraught than I want to deal with.  Especially if I goof up and get my lines crossed or forget to remove an entry after shipping it.

So yeah.  I'm organizing, trying to figure out a game plan and setting up from there, same as when I posted last time. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Fri, 25 July 2014, 07:45:44
You guys sure are ****s. Yeah, the GB is delayed as hell, but how do you think the organizers feel about it, holding everyone's money and unable to deliver? Do you think they don't want to get this over with and give everyone their god damn boards? Do you really think mocking them will get anyone anywhere? Give it a rest already.

Um, Mr. (Ms.) mkaito with 87 post to your name, have YOU run the largest GB logistics and shipping operation in the history of GeekHack?  No, that was me.*

I know all of the people involved, and very much more about how this process works than you.  So do JD and Nub.  I asked a reasonable question in a reasonable (IMHO) tone.  TJCaustin knows what he is doing, and earned his title of King Klaxon through feats of action, not words.  (Actually, talking to tjcaustin, my tone was VERY measured.)

If The King decides to reply to me with "godammit Ron, all of the PCBs are in one goddam box, and I'm not busting it open just for the people who aren't having assembly done" then I'll say, fair enough.

When you have a wall of custom and rare keyboards behind YOUR desk, then and only then can you accuse others of mocking or being ****s.

Also, oh look.  I am an Admin here.  Flagged for moderation.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

* [edit] To be fair, that might have been TJ, with his awesome "wheel of sorting" process.  One of the two of us, anyhow.

My real concern with sending some orders before others (and partial orders get the added "benefit" of double shipping if I did this...) is logistics.  I think we can both agree part of the major success of DSA retro was the from-the-ground-up ordering platform that matt3o made for it. 

Meaning that I worry cherry-picking orders out of a 200+ line google spreadsheet might be more fraught than I want to deal with.  Especially if I goof up and get my lines crossed or forget to remove an entry after shipping it.

So yeah.  I'm organizing, trying to figure out a game plan and setting up from there, same as when I posted last time. 

Surely a formula can be created to split the "Master" excel file in several categories and BAM, no cherry-picking...Pretty sure if you need to get this done someone will be willing to help.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:32:53
I see you got your hand raised boost  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 25 July 2014, 11:46:36
I see you got your hand raised boost  :p

No he's just the idea man. It's up to any and every one else to do things.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 25 July 2014, 12:23:19
The difficulty with creating a formula in Excel to do that is that the final column isn't consistent (I know because I've just done it).  It's easy enough to sort it by the rows that do and don't have "stab" in Column T but there are some people that have ordered stabilizers that haven't used the word stab in their order (i.e. Row 102 says "1 x cherry PCB-mounted, 6.25x spacbar [sic] wire") which wouldn't be picked up by a formula simply looking for the word stab
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: 7bit on Fri, 25 July 2014, 14:30:52
What about exporting it to a text table. Then you can use grep to throw away all lines that contain items you can't ship for now, until you have only lines of orders with items that are ready to ship.

Ideally you should put each line into a separate file in a directory named orders/. When packed, they are moved to packed/ and when shipped to shipped/.  Write a script that moves the orders. Same for generating address stickers and content lists.
:-)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:03:17
What about exporting it to a text table. Then you can use grep to throw away all lines that contain items you can't ship for now, until you have only lines of orders with items that are ready to ship.

Ideally you should put each line into a separate file in a directory named orders/. When packed, they are moved to packed/ and when shipped to shipped/.  Write a script that moves the orders. Same for generating address stickers and content lists.
:-)

Unfortunately he does not have 7bot at his disposal.  :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:46:23
what about manually looking at each row and adding values to additional columns as needed manually. I already did it once and could do it again in about a hour.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 25 July 2014, 16:50:57
what about manually looking at each row and adding values to additional columns as needed manually. I already did it once and could do it again in about a hour.
JESUS DOMO!!! I'm just an IdEA man  :p
Haven't seen you around in a while, how you been?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Sat, 26 July 2014, 14:23:55
I see you got your hand raised boost  :p

No he's just the idea man. It's up to any and every one else to do things.

No excel for me but can get it done in python...No need to make another excuse on why you can't send out "PCB ONLY" orders...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 26 July 2014, 17:05:52
I see you got your hand raised boost  :p

No he's just the idea man. It's up to any and every one else to do things.

No excel for me but can get it done in python...No need to make another excuse on why you can't send out "PCB ONLY" orders...

Fine, "excuse" free:  I'm not doing it.  Be patient like the people waiting for parts.  Or don't.  It won't accelerate the process.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Sat, 26 July 2014, 21:02:34

I see you got your hand raised boost  :p

No he's just the idea man. It's up to any and every one else to do things.

No excel for me but can get it done in python...No need to make another excuse on why you can't send out "PCB ONLY" orders...

Fine, "excuse" free:  I'm not doing it.  Be patient like the people waiting for parts.  Or don't.  It won't accelerate the process.

Why do pcb only orders need to wait until everything comes in besides not wanting to cherry pick orders?

Just trying to understand.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nil on Sun, 27 July 2014, 12:47:09
What about exporting it to a text table. Then you can use grep to throw away all lines that contain items you can't ship for now, until you have only lines of orders with items that are ready to ship.

Ideally you should put each line into a separate file in a directory named orders/. When packed, they are moved to packed/ and when shipped to shipped/.  Write a script that moves the orders. Same for generating address stickers and content lists.
:-)
Not saying to do this, but actually the best solution is to export the current file into a .csv. Then you load up the file into some programming language (say Python) as a pandas data frame/numpy array, make a new column called "status", and grep the "order" vector for stuff to auto-set a subset of orders as "packed", and leave the rest as "pending", etc. Then any time you'd like, you can export the data frame/array back as a .csv which can be imported back in a spreadsheet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 27 July 2014, 13:12:28
I see you got your hand raised boost  :p

No he's just the idea man. It's up to any and every one else to do things.

No excel for me but can get it done in python...No need to make another excuse on why you can't send out "PCB ONLY" orders...

Fine, "excuse" free:  I'm not doing it.  Be patient like the people waiting for parts.  Or don't.  It won't accelerate the process.

Can you define 'parts'?  Is it just stabs (which I haven't ordered) that are being waited on now or is there something else delaying me getting what I paid for over a year ago?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 27 July 2014, 14:27:43
I see you got your hand raised boost  :p

No he's just the idea man. It's up to any and every one else to do things.

No excel for me but can get it done in python...No need to make another excuse on why you can't send out "PCB ONLY" orders...

Fine, "excuse" free:  I'm not doing it.  Be patient like the people waiting for parts.  Or don't.  It won't accelerate the process.

Can you define 'parts'?  Is it just stabs (which I haven't ordered) that are being waited on now or is there something else delaying me getting what I paid for over a year ago?

I'm getting very tired of your passive-aggressive posts in this thread, GeorgeK. So, I'm going to explain this to you, even though, with your attitude, you don't really deserve an explanation.

It's not TJ's fault that WFD opened the GB, took orders, and collected payments way too soon. If you want to ***** at someone, ***** at WFD. TJ only agreed to collect the payments, that's all. He did that at my request, as a favor to a friend (me). Much later, TJ volunteered to take over WFD's portion of the assembly and shipping, due to the fact that WFD had disappeared. When I mentioned to TJ that I didn't know how I was going to assemble and ship my portion, due to work and family obligations, he volunteered to take over those, as well. So, really, no one has the right to be pissed off at TJ for trying to pick up the pieces of a broken group buy. He and komar are still working hard to get all the orders that people paid for, yes - over a year ago, shipped out to them.

Your order, GeorgeK, since you are located in the UK, will be shipped by komar007, not by tjcaustin. komar doesn't even have all the pieces of your order to ship to you, because TJ is waiting to receive all the various components before he can ship the portion of those that go to komar to him. TJ is not going to ship plates and switches to komar, without having the stabilizers to send with them. It's really that simple.

For everyone else, TJ has a lot going on before he can ship anything. He has to sort out the switches, which right now are just sitting in boxes, 2000 of these, 1200 of those, etc. He has to get all the plates, switches and stabilizers that need to go to komar separated out, so that he can send them that way, for komar to be able to ship those orders that he is responsible for shipping. Even though you guys don't always see what is going on behind the scenes, things are still moving forward. Would you rather someone take the time it takes to write out a long wall of text like this, or would you prefer they use that time toward getting things sorted, stabilizer orders collated and ordered, etc.?

/rant
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 27 July 2014, 14:46:29
Your order, GeorgeK, since you are located in the UK, will be shipped by komar007, not by tjcaustin.  komar doesn't even have all the pieces of your order to ship to you

That was literally all I needed to know.  I know that was probably made clear a few thousand posts ago but it must have passed me by.  I don't blame tjcaustin for holding up this groupbuy but surely he must have been able to tell me this himself?  I think it's a lack of communication that's causing the most aggravation at this stage, not a lack of progress.

If I have annoyed you in any way please accept my sincerest apologies (and I genuinely mean that - sometimes online sarcasm and sincerity can become confused but in this case it's definitely sincerity I'm trying to get across).

Regards

GK
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 27 July 2014, 14:54:22
You guys and your complex solutions... when I do my buys, I also use googledocs. There is this amazing feature of making order rows into another color. Here I use this complex system of invoiced orders in red, then change to yellow when paid, then to green when I have shipped it. WOW.
I can send the stabs along with keycaps from my buys for all of those that also happen to be in this one if desired. I suspect that would be a good number of orders in that case. I just need to take some time to crosscheck orders and share it back if that would be convenient. That way all PCB, or PCB and plate only orders could be shipped now, along with those that are in my buys and this one. That would leave only those that are not and those that wanted full assembly left to be shipped out at a later time.
There are going to be people whining either way for having to wait or for others getting things first so... Personally I would prefer to stagger sending things out over a bit more relaxed shipping schedule but it's not my call.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: osxoep on Sun, 27 July 2014, 16:11:51
I know that was probably made clear a few thousand posts ago but it must have passed me by.
It was in post 1 since the start of the GB
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 27 July 2014, 16:22:41
To be honest I forgot that - not hard to do when it was posted 16 months ago
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Sun, 27 July 2014, 16:26:19
I see you got your hand raised boost  :p

No he's just the idea man. It's up to any and every one else to do things.

No excel for me but can get it done in python...No need to make another excuse on why you can't send out "PCB ONLY" orders...

Fine, "excuse" free:  I'm not doing it.  Be patient like the people waiting for parts.  Or don't.  It won't accelerate the process.

Can you define 'parts'?  Is it just stabs (which I haven't ordered) that are being waited on now or is there something else delaying me getting what I paid for over a year ago?

I'm getting very tired of your passive-aggressive posts in this thread, GeorgeK. So, I'm going to explain this to you, even though, with your attitude, you don't really deserve an explanation.

It's not TJ's fault that WFD opened the GB, took orders, and collected payments way too soon. If you want to ***** at someone, ***** at WFD. TJ only agreed to collect the payments, that's all. He did that at my request, as a favor to a friend (me). Much later, TJ volunteered to take over WFD's portion of the assembly and shipping, due to the fact that WFD had disappeared. When I mentioned to TJ that I didn't know how I was going to assemble and ship my portion, due to work and family obligations, he volunteered to take over those, as well. So, really, no one has the right to be pissed off at TJ for trying to pick up the pieces of a broken group buy. He and komar are still working hard to get all the orders that people paid for, yes - over a year ago, shipped out to them.

Your order, GeorgeK, since you are located in the UK, will be shipped by komar007, not by tjcaustin. komar doesn't even have all the pieces of your order to ship to you, because TJ is waiting to receive all the various components before he can ship the portion of those that go to komar to him. TJ is not going to ship plates and switches to komar, without having the stabilizers to send with them. It's really that simple.

For everyone else, TJ has a lot going on before he can ship anything. He has to sort out the switches, which right now are just sitting in boxes, 2000 of these, 1200 of those, etc. He has to get all the plates, switches and stabilizers that need to go to komar separated out, so that he can send them that way, for komar to be able to ship those orders that he is responsible for shipping. Even though you guys don't always see what is going on behind the scenes, things are still moving forward. Would you rather someone take the time it takes to write out a long wall of text like this, or would you prefer they use that time toward getting things sorted, stabilizer orders collated and ordered, etc.?

/rant

+1. Everyone needs to chill the **** out. We are getting good progress and good enough updates now. We will get what we paid for BECAUSE tj took over, so let the guy work and stop *****ing.

/rant
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 27 July 2014, 16:49:47
I know I'm not the only one more than a little annoyed about the lack of updates / speed.  Whilst I now know that my order cannot be sent as komar doesn't have everything to send me that doesn't explain to all the US people who only ordered pcbs or pcbs and plates as to why they can't have their stuff.  I'll let them take it up from here as I've leant what sticking my head above the parapet gets you.

To be honest this will be the last post I make in this thread - I've said my bit and I'll just wait quietly now like a good boy...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 27 July 2014, 17:06:06
J.D., a wall of text has been needed to be put in the first post ever since something went wrong with this group buy. And that wall of text should be updated from time to time to let people know what is going on.
I have had no clue as to what has been going on simply because I don't care to sit here and read through a bunch of whine and questions to find that one piece of annoyed reply from someone that is affiliated with the group buy organizer(s). However; I have also not really cared as to what has been going on because I trust in the fact that you guys are excellent at figuring out a solution for problems. It still leaves people uncomfortable when they read that someone that originally started the buy has dropped the group buy after receiving the funds and that some of the stuff has arrived in the states, but some are still left in china.
So again, it was needed, and it is still needed. Transparency is at high demand as this group buy has gone through changes that might scare people that have invested an amount of money that matters to them.

I for one appreciate the work being done behind the scenes. But I don't appreciate people projecting their frustration towards each other based on a loosely worded sentence or phrase.

Thanks to everyone that is working on getting this group buy sorted. And I really hope it isn't too much of a headache for you guys/girls.
Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 27 July 2014, 17:40:02
Thank you, Glissant, and swill, and everyone else who is also frustrated but waiting patiently until everything gets sorted. To be honest, I thought people knew this is what was happening while we wait. I don't know why I assumed that, but I guess I thought that with the updates we had given, and the information people already had about what the process was, that all this was well known. Sorry I didn't make this all clearer before.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: TDub on Mon, 28 July 2014, 06:24:44
Considering that this whole thing would have simply broken down without jd and tj stepping up and no one would get anything any time soon (if at all), i think gratitude is the only acceptable reaction here. Yes it is taking long and we are all impatient to get our hands on the GH60, but its a group buy organized by normal people with normal lives, who invest a hell of a lot of their free time into get us what we want and they don't need to justify why they don't want to spend even more time shipping some of it without stabs. This isn't the first group buy to take a long time and everyone involved knew there was a risk this would take longer (especially considering the PCB was still under development when the buy started).

To summarize:
+1. Everyone needs to chill the **** out.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 28 July 2014, 12:32:20
Considering that this whole thing would have simply broken down without jd and tj stepping up and no one would get anything any time soon (if at all), i think gratitude is the only acceptable reaction here. Yes it is taking long and we are all impatient to get our hands on the GH60, but its a group buy organized by normal people with normal lives, who invest a hell of a lot of their free time into get us what we want and they don't need to justify why they don't want to spend even more time shipping some of it without stabs. This isn't the first group buy to take a long time and everyone involved knew there was a risk this would take longer (especially considering the PCB was still under development when the buy started).

This. ^^ (emphasis added)

This is not the first time that TJ has gone above and beyond to make sure that a GB doesn't collapse.  As someone who has money in this buy -- and who has run group buys in the past but doesn't anymore due to time and hassle -- I am extremely grateful that he was willing to step up.

There was an issue with communicating the current state of things, but I think that has now been resolved, yes?  So let's stop complaining and making TJ regret his decision to help all of us out.  This is not a retail transaction, it is a community project run by volunteers that we have all bought into.  Sometimes these things go off the rails, and you have to be ready to accept that when you click "send" on paypal.

Let's have less accusatory complaining and more gratitude and constructive suggestions.  Huge thanks to those who are being positive and offering to help.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: madderoftime on Tue, 29 July 2014, 08:15:33
While I can certainly appreciate communication of the status, especially after having paid long ago, I do have questions that relate but are just due to my having taken orders from others that didn't wait.

I would have purchased all the parts as well just to simplify things but did not have that option with the orders I took over. Is there a preferred place for purchasing the parts missing?
For instance: Between the 3 orders I only have one with quantity 2 Corsair stabs. I will need stabs for all 4 of my boards. Where did we end up with those? Or are we switching over to all Cherry?  I would honestly like to have all the same type. 3 GH60 plates and a Pure so need... 4 6" and 3 2" right?
Only one is a DIY kit the others are boards both bare bones and SMT done. I think I read that right - I should be getting 4 with SMT done and 2 bare. Can someone check that and make sure I'm right? Trying to understand what I need for diodes.
Then there obviously is all the other parts for 3 other boards I would like to match the 1 set of parts I was supposed to get. I guess what I am asking is can I get a list of where the parts are sourced and part numbers so I can make sure to have then consistent?
Then I have the one plate that is a pure and would rather a GH60 since I know those were just done (again for consistency) can someone point me to how to get one more plate made by the same company and stock?

I really appreciate the help!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: xavierblak on Tue, 29 July 2014, 09:33:28
There was an issue with communicating the current state of things, but I think that has now been resolved, yes?  So let's stop complaining and making TJ regret his decision to help all of us out. 

I apologize if I come off as a jerk. And I do appreciate this is a large undertaking and there is a lot of work that needs to be done.

But please remember it's only really communication if it's continued and maintained with updates. We got an updated after a long period of silence. Let's hope it continues.

I'm looking forwards to receiving my GH60 when it's all resolved. Keep at it.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: hisea on Tue, 29 July 2014, 20:23:57
Don't know if this is the right place, but I wonder if it's too late to get an order in. I really want one.

Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 29 July 2014, 20:36:52
Orders closed a year ago. Boards should show up in classifieds once they are shipped.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 29 July 2014, 20:48:30
Orders closed a year ago. Boards should show up in classifieds once they are shipped.

My current recommendation:  get the FaceW from Sprit, it will show up faster and has more functionality.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 30 July 2014, 13:46:40
I have a question for the powers that be. Is Komar still waiting on his rev3 pcb in order to test the led module prototype?

Is there anyway a few of us could chip in a few bucks to get his shipped to him one off to allow him to test the led module prototype?

depending on how much it is to ship this to him I would be willing to pay for it. please let me know if I am over stepping my bounds.

Edit: nevermind I found this a few pages back...

Yes, TJ has half of the PCBs, and the other half is waiting in China. I will get this half shipped to myself once I know the plates are ready to be sent to me, so no worries here. I was responsible for the production of PCBs and part of distribution. The PCBs are produced, and distribution on my side can't start before I receive the stuff I wasn't responsible for.
I hope you understand that I won't take responsibility for purchases and money transfers which are already being handled thousands of kilometers away from myself. I'm as sad as you are not having my GH60s and being unable to test the LED module which is sitting on my desk waiting and I have also paid for stuff I haven't received yet.
I have already organized some help with the non-US non-Canada distribution to get things shipped faster and I'll be considering sending stuff without stabs first if they don't come early enough.


It is very easy to loose track of this kind of stuff, in this many pages. If you need any help please let me know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 07 August 2014, 00:50:21
What are the chances the GH60 could be hacked to add an esc/function row with Enabler PCB's? I've always wanted something between a 60% and a TKL but it seems silly to direct wire or make a whole new PCB when the GH60 already does things so well.

Space isn't a problem as I want the gap between the number and function rows, more interested if the pins are broken out on the ATMega.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 07 August 2014, 01:29:18
What like a Quantel?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Mjg4WDM4NA==/$T2eC16JHJHEE9ny2p6uCBQOUvlDzpQ~~60_35.JPG)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 07 August 2014, 01:37:27
Pretty much. I just picture a TKL with the nav section cut off. Still keeps the mouse close to the keyboard while allowing function keys for gaming.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: JBert on Thu, 07 August 2014, 15:59:46
I second that thought. Having to go without the Funkeys is a bit of a pain.

I would guess it needs a new plate and case, but in theory the GH60 should allow it through its extension pins on the PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Mon, 25 August 2014, 07:20:01
Take it there's no further update?


Gh60-2015
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 25 August 2014, 07:23:09
Take it there's no further update?

Gh60-2015

Not sure which part of "waiting for stabilizers" you didn't understand, but we're waiting for stabilizers. If you want updates on that, check Ivans stab GB thread.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tricheboars on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:12:20
oh yea. i forgot about this buy. TJ is on it now eh? well thats good i guess.

man WFD really bailed on us?  that is surprising to me. i figured he would be back now and helping.  anywho i have faith in this. it isnt like you guys are named DrugER and in Korea.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:30:27
I still need the stabs total confirmed and paid so I can get the order finalized with GMK.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:43:15

man WFD really bailed on us?  that is surprising to me.

Isn't to me...

I still need the stabs total confirmed and paid so I can get the order finalized with GMK.

What's the best way to confirm stabs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 28 August 2014, 09:23:25
It's something one of the buy runners needs to do (or a few other people that have the time really I suppose as long as there is a consensus). The way the order confirmation sheet is structured there is no easy way to run a total for stabs other than manually counting them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:27:31
It's something one of the buy runners needs to do (or a few other people that have the time really I suppose as long as there is a consensus). The way the order confirmation sheet is structured there is no easy way to run a total for stabs other than manually counting them.

If someone can send me a copy of the sheet, I am sure I can write a python script to extract the numbers we need...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: xavierblak on Fri, 29 August 2014, 20:06:21
If someone can send me a copy of the sheet, I am sure I can write a python script to extract the numbers we need...

I don't know if it exists in a better format but a spreadsheet with all the orders is on the first post. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AraAg2A1x5csdGhmV2xKd2h5SmZQUFFSa3ZSZ3BjWkE&usp=sharing#gid=0

It looks like the stab orders were just a free text area and mixed with keyswitch orders. Parsing them will be difficult.

EDIT:

Actually after looking at the sheet closer it would be impossible do this. Many of the orders are unclear. I suppose we could guess at them but I really hope whom ever sent out the invoices for this has some sort of record of who gets what stabs.  :-X
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 31 August 2014, 22:08:18
If we can't get a script to do the work for us, I'm willing to sit down and count everything to get the numbers down just to get both this buy and Ivan's moving forward. 

At this point, I'd willingly give up my stabs since I'm getting some through Ivan and got some through WASD.  I just want to see this thing making progress instead of stagnating.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: xavierblak on Sun, 31 August 2014, 22:45:47
If we can't get a script to do the work for us, I'm willing to sit down and count everything to get the numbers down just to get both this buy and Ivan's moving forward. 

At this point, I'd willingly give up my stabs since I'm getting some through Ivan and got some through WASD.  I just want to see this thing making progress instead of stagnating.

I'd be willing to do some of this work as well. But I've been hoping someone with the knowledge would step forwards with a list that was used to charge for the stabilizers. Ivan has anyone said they don't have a list or have they just not gotten back to you?

If we can't get that list, my thought was to create a copy of that google sheet with the needed columns and then share access with anyone who was willing to help out. Asking one person to process 300 orders would be rough but if we could spread the work around it would be more do-able.


Edit: Another option would be to email/pm everyone on that list with a form for them to re-enter their order in a way that could be easily parsed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 31 August 2014, 23:52:37
So I have this idea.

We split the spreadsheet into 10, having each spreadsheet a 30 orders each. We need 10 volunteers to count the spreadsheet and report back here. We need to define or clarify some terms though on the spreadsheet, like how many stabs in one 'set'.

I'm at work right now so can't actually count one spreadsheet though.

If this idea is good enough, one should reply with 'Mine - Spreadsheet Number(or filename)' and edit the post later with how many stabs.

Hope this helps. I would really love to get this pcb before christmas.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: AKmalamute on Mon, 01 September 2014, 12:40:46
We split the spreadsheet into 10, having each spreadsheet a 30 orders each. We need 10 volunteers to count the spreadsheet and report back here. We need to define or clarify some terms though on the spreadsheet, like how many stabs in one 'set'.

I'm at work right now so can't actually count one spreadsheet though.

If this idea is good enough, one should reply with 'Mine - Spreadsheet Number(or filename)' and edit the post later with how many stabs.

 Won't be at work 'til tomorrow but I'm busy all day today, pretty sure. But by the end of the week I can have #10 counted up. Or somebody with more free time can jump in there...

 So, not being in this buy, I've only been loosely following it. You just need a total count? I see in this file, 6.25 spacebar specified, sometimes separately from costar/cherry but clear enough what's meant.

Then there's entries with questions. Spacebar: hhkb (7?) / pure: (6.25 I guess?). Should I go with the number named or the layout requested (meaning a bit of research but I'm for that)?

 Most just specify "a set" ... That's the number I plan on quoting, but I assume that would work out to be 4 2x + spacebar (just 4x if no spacebar specified)

Ideas? As requested I'll edit this one I've actually counted file #10 but what would be really cool, is the software widget equivalent of one of those hand-counters the librarians use when they're keeping track of questions-answered. "Aisle four, in the three hundreds." 'click' "No copies available." 'click' (counter now shows 002).

Does anybody know of such a widget? Need about five of them ... costar, plate-cherry, pcb-cherry, 6.25 wire, 7x wire ... what else will I run into?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 01 September 2014, 16:22:30
Okay, I just pounded through the entire spreadsheet.  Sorry for not declaring that I would do so, but it was kind of a spur the moment deal.

Anyway, here's what I've counted:

Cherry PCB 6.25x : 115
Cherry PCB 7x : 47
Cherry Plate 6.25x : 130
Cherry Plate 7x : 92
Costar 6.25x : 94
Costar 7x : 22
Cherry 6.25x Wires : 8
Cherry 7x Wires : 25

Obviously, as mentioned before, the Costar stabs will be ordered as Cherry.  Additionally, as others have mentioned, there is a lot of ambiguity in some of these orders.  When a stabilizer length was not mentioned, I looked at the choice of plate and if it became obvious I filled it in as such.  If it was still not obvious, I defaulted to 6.25x.  This was very common for the Costar orders.  There were 48 orders that were not immediately obvious what stabilizer size to choose.

Here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zbmd2k3d3l4pi0n/GH60%20orders%20%28public%29.xlsx?dl=0) is my spreadsheet, for review.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 01 September 2014, 16:44:21
It will take more time, but a PM with an update for stabs might be the best. People might want to add more or less since it's been so long since the original order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pasph on Mon, 01 September 2014, 17:06:06
It will take more time, but a PM with an update for stabs might be the best. People might want to add more or less since it's been so long since the original order.
This would mean reopen the stabs orders, send how many?  200-300 PMs?
Another 6 months?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 September 2014, 17:10:29
Okay, I just pounded through the entire spreadsheet.  Sorry for not declaring that I would do so, but it was kind of a spur the moment deal.

Anyway, here's what I've counted:

Cherry PCB 6.25x : 115
Cherry PCB 7x : 47
Cherry Plate 6.25x : 130
Cherry Plate 7x : 92
Costar 6.25x : 94
Costar 7x : 22
Cherry 6.25x Wires : 8
Cherry 7x Wires : 25

Obviously, as mentioned before, the Costar stabs will be ordered as Cherry.  Additionally, as others have mentioned, there is a lot of ambiguity in some of these orders.  When a stabilizer length was not mentioned, I looked at the choice of plate and if it became obvious I filled it in as such.  If it was still not obvious, I defaulted to 6.25x.  This was very common for the Costar orders.  There were 48 orders that were not immediately obvious what stabilizer size to choose.

Here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zbmd2k3d3l4pi0n/GH60%20orders%20%28public%29.xlsx?dl=0) is my spreadsheet, for review.

Wow, Hoff. Thank you so much for doing that. I had started on it, but I've just been so busy at work the past few weeks, I hadn't had time to work on it at all. You da man, bro!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 01 September 2014, 17:11:38
Thanks Hoff.  I may run through it as well just to get a consensus on numbers.

It will take more time, but a PM with an update for stabs might be the best. People might want to add more or less since it's been so long since the original order.
This would mean reopen the stabs orders, send how many?  200-300 PMs?
Another 6 months?

And know that some people just won't respond and you'll then have to guess. 

No, it's best to just have a couple of people count and go with the highest count from each person's total.  That way you're covered and may have a couple of extras.

Hell, since WASD has Costar stabilizers now, it might be worth seeing if you can grab enough for all the orders that wanted them from WASD and submit the Cherry numbers.

We need to get this thing moving forward instead of sitting around and waiting for someone else to come up with an easy solution for how to fix the buy.  There are no easy solutions for the stabilizer problem.  No matter what, some people will be unhappy.  Lets just get an idea of what's needed, order extras, and move forward and hope everything works out correctly.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 01 September 2014, 17:20:36
Much appreciated to those that offered and did count.  I just finished with totals a hair higher than hoffman and sent that to lysol to get a final price.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 01 September 2014, 19:07:45
do address changes go to tj or jd? I sent a pm to jd and have not heard back. I was not sure where to send it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 01 September 2014, 19:58:49
do address changes go to tj or jd? I sent a pm to jd and have not heard back. I was not sure where to send it.

Sorry about that, buddy. I've been slow to respond to PMs lately, but I'll forward it over to TJ for you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 01 September 2014, 22:47:59
do address changes go to tj or jd? I sent a pm to jd and have not heard back. I was not sure where to send it.

Sorry about that, buddy. I've been slow to respond to PMs lately, but I'll forward it over to TJ for you.



Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: agor on Tue, 02 September 2014, 04:00:29
Thanks to all for counting!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: vorn on Tue, 02 September 2014, 04:13:36
Thanks to all for counting!

Yes, thanks to all who have been keeping the wheels moving! :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Wed, 03 September 2014, 06:21:43
It's something one of the buy runners needs to do (or a few other people that have the time really I suppose as long as there is a consensus). The way the order confirmation sheet is structured there is no easy way to run a total for stabs other than manually counting them.

I know this is a bit late now, but IIRC, there was a specified "kit" or "set," and that kit was to be the definition of "one set," unless specified (such as with alternate spacebars).

Thanks Hoff.  I may run through it as well just to get a consensus on numbers.

It will take more time, but a PM with an update for stabs might be the best. People might want to add more or less since it's been so long since the original order.
This would mean reopen the stabs orders, send how many?  200-300 PMs?
Another 6 months?

And know that some people just won't respond and you'll then have to guess. 

No, it's best to just have a couple of people count and go with the highest count from each person's total.  That way you're covered and may have a couple of extras.

Hell, since WASD has Costar stabilizers now, it might be worth seeing if you can grab enough for all the orders that wanted them from WASD and submit the Cherry numbers.

We need to get this thing moving forward instead of sitting around and waiting for someone else to come up with an easy solution for how to fix the buy.  There are no easy solutions for the stabilizer problem.  No matter what, some people will be unhappy.  Lets just get an idea of what's needed, order extras, and move forward and hope everything works out correctly.

^this. Sometimes figuring out the best possible solution is even harder than just doing things "the hard way."

Okay, I just pounded through the entire spreadsheet.  Sorry for not declaring that I would do so, but it was kind of a spur the moment deal.

Anyway, here's what I've counted:

Cherry PCB 6.25x : 115
Cherry PCB 7x : 47
Cherry Plate 6.25x : 130
Cherry Plate 7x : 92
Costar 6.25x : 94
Costar 7x : 22
Cherry 6.25x Wires : 8
Cherry 7x Wires : 25

Obviously, as mentioned before, the Costar stabs will be ordered as Cherry.  Additionally, as others have mentioned, there is a lot of ambiguity in some of these orders.  When a stabilizer length was not mentioned, I looked at the choice of plate and if it became obvious I filled it in as such.  If it was still not obvious, I defaulted to 6.25x.  This was very common for the Costar orders.  There were 48 orders that were not immediately obvious what stabilizer size to choose.

Here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zbmd2k3d3l4pi0n/GH60%20orders%20%28public%29.xlsx?dl=0) is my spreadsheet, for review.

^Awesome! (and perfect example of what i just replied in response to nubbinator)

And, as mentioned at the top of my ginormous multi-quote: the process was initially intended to have a "default," and any variation from that default was to be specified by those placing the non-default order (such as alternate space bars or extra stabs).

We split the spreadsheet into 10, having each spreadsheet a 30 orders each. We need 10 volunteers to count the spreadsheet and report back here. We need to define or clarify some terms though on the spreadsheet, like how many stabs in one 'set'.

I'm at work right now so can't actually count one spreadsheet though.

If this idea is good enough, one should reply with 'Mine - Spreadsheet Number(or filename)' and edit the post later with how many stabs.

 Won't be at work 'til tomorrow but I'm busy all day today, pretty sure. But by the end of the week I can have #10 counted up. Or somebody with more free time can jump in there...

 So, not being in this buy, I've only been loosely following it. You just need a total count? I see in this file, 6.25 spacebar specified, sometimes separately from costar/cherry but clear enough what's meant.

Then there's entries with questions. Spacebar: hhkb (7?) / pure: (6.25 I guess?). Should I go with the number named or the layout requested (meaning a bit of research but I'm for that)?

 Most just specify "a set" ... That's the number I plan on quoting, but I assume that would work out to be 4 2x + spacebar (just 4x if no spacebar specified)

Ideas? As requested I'll edit this one I've actually counted file #10 but what would be really cool, is the software widget equivalent of one of those hand-counters the librarians use when they're keeping track of questions-answered. "Aisle four, in the three hundreds." 'click' "No copies available." 'click' (counter now shows 002).

Does anybody know of such a widget? Need about five of them ... costar, plate-cherry, pcb-cherry, 6.25 wire, 7x wire ... what else will I run into?
^As above. In accordance with the instructed ordering process, anyone who wanted anything deviating from defaults, was told repeatedly to specify it as such. There may have even been a stipulation that if you wanted more than one set, but less than two, you'd just have to get two sets and have leftovers.

But that problem has been fixed (and with "elbow grease" rather than theory-crafting and automation).

Much appreciated to those that offered and did count.  I just finished with totals a hair higher than hoffman and sent that to lysol to get a final price.
^Awesome!

So I have this idea.

We split the spreadsheet into 10, having each spreadsheet a 30 orders each. We need 10 volunteers to count the spreadsheet and report back here. We need to define or clarify some terms though on the spreadsheet, like how many stabs in one 'set'.

I'm at work right now so can't actually count one spreadsheet though.

If this idea is good enough, one should reply with 'Mine - Spreadsheet Number(or filename)' and edit the post later with how many stabs.

Hope this helps. I would really love to get this pcb before christmas.

^Good idea! (despite the fact that Hoff nullified it like a champ!)


I hadn't logged in or even lurked in weeks; glad to pop in and see the wheels haven't fallen off. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: damorgue on Wed, 03 September 2014, 06:35:05
do address changes go to tj or jd? I sent a pm to jd and have not heard back. I was not sure where to send it.

Sorry about that, buddy. I've been slow to respond to PMs lately, but I'll forward it over to TJ for you.

I am moving soon too, and I take it I might as well PM TJ directly, or do you both need the new address?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 September 2014, 06:40:58

do address changes go to tj or jd? I sent a pm to jd and have not heard back. I was not sure where to send it.

Sorry about that, buddy. I've been slow to respond to PMs lately, but I'll forward it over to TJ for you.

I am moving soon too, and I take it I might as well PM TJ directly, or do you both need the new address?

Your order will be shipped by komar, so he's really the one who will need the updated address.

TJ is shipping North America orders, and komar is shipping the rest of the world. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 03 September 2014, 08:33:17
Okay, I just pounded through the entire spreadsheet.  Sorry for not declaring that I would do so, but it was kind of a spur the moment deal.

Anyway, here's what I've counted:

Cherry PCB 6.25x : 115
Cherry PCB 7x : 47
Cherry Plate 6.25x : 130
Cherry Plate 7x : 92
Costar 6.25x : 94
Costar 7x : 22
Cherry 6.25x Wires : 8
Cherry 7x Wires : 25

Obviously, as mentioned before, the Costar stabs will be ordered as Cherry.  Additionally, as others have mentioned, there is a lot of ambiguity in some of these orders.  When a stabilizer length was not mentioned, I looked at the choice of plate and if it became obvious I filled it in as such.  If it was still not obvious, I defaulted to 6.25x.  This was very common for the Costar orders.  There were 48 orders that were not immediately obvious what stabilizer size to choose.

Here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zbmd2k3d3l4pi0n/GH60%20orders%20%28public%29.xlsx?dl=0) is my spreadsheet, for review.

Wow, thank you so much for this effort Hoffman  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 03 September 2014, 16:27:03

do address changes go to tj or jd? I sent a pm to jd and have not heard back. I was not sure where to send it.

Sorry about that, buddy. I've been slow to respond to PMs lately, but I'll forward it over to TJ for you.

I am moving soon too, and I take it I might as well PM TJ directly, or do you both need the new address?

Your order will be shipped by komar, so he's really the one who will need the updated address.

TJ is shipping North America orders, and komar is shipping the rest of the world. :)

Would a mod please edit this somehow into the op?

Thanks again!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 September 2014, 16:33:12
Your order will be shipped by komar, so he's really the one who will need the updated address.

TJ is shipping North America orders, and komar is shipping the rest of the world. :)

Would a mod please edit this somehow into the op?

Thanks again!

It's there, you just have to read to the bottom of the post, under the "Logistics" heading.

Logistics
 Komar designed and will have the PCBs made, I designed and will have the plates made. Jdcarpe and I will manage orders, but all of us will have access to the spreadsheets. Jdcarpe and I tjcaustin will handle US and Canada assembly and distributions, komar will assemble and distribute for EU and the rest of the world (unless you have a personal request or already have prior arrangements). Main reason is because it’s no longer cheap to ship international from the US. Switches are from 7bit. Tjcaustin will collect money and invoice.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 05 September 2014, 10:41:42
Stabs ETA is October.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: battletux on Sat, 06 September 2014, 23:04:50
Stabs ETA is October.


 :eek:

Would that mean, dare I say it, delivery by Christmas?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: kinruan on Sun, 14 September 2014, 13:12:34
i have moved and changed my address. wondering if GB owner (no idea who is in charge now) has gotten my new address
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 22 September 2014, 15:00:51
Stabilizers paid for and getting ready to be shipped to me.

Next will be me making a google doc for everyone to fill out for change of address just to CMA.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: vorn on Tue, 23 September 2014, 00:18:46
Awesome news!! :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 02:42:10
Good job!;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 23 September 2014, 02:55:38
<Insert Ron Paul it's happening meme>
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: MOZ on Tue, 23 September 2014, 04:10:03
(http://i.imgur.com/P0gQzgl.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: frosty on Thu, 25 September 2014, 12:13:37
Anyone with a spare pcb/ANSI 125 plate they don't want please pm me! Putting this here once you guys start receiving your stuff ! :-)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 26 September 2014, 13:21:38
Hooray!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: netdevil on Sat, 27 September 2014, 02:05:00
Finally. This is great news!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 01 October 2014, 18:17:57
Anyone with a spare pcb/ANSI 125 plate they don't want please pm me! Putting this here once you guys start receiving your stuff ! :-)

Probably me.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Karura on Fri, 03 October 2014, 04:36:46
Hello,

I would like to join this GB and have an idea of what parts I want; are there any extras that I can buy, if not, will there be more opportunities to get the GH60 stuff?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Elocutive on Fri, 03 October 2014, 05:35:48
Hello,

I would like to join this GB and have an idea of what parts I want; are there any extras that I can buy, if not, will there be more opportunities to get the GH60 stuff?
I highly doubt that you can get any extra stuff. This group buy has been going on for over a year. You can buy one on [CTR]ALT though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 03 October 2014, 05:44:44
I highly doubt that you can get any extra stuff. This group buy has been going on for over a year. You can buy one on [CTR]ALT though.

They don't sell the GH60.

You'll probably be able to get some PCBs from people who sell theirs after the GB ships.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 03 October 2014, 12:07:05
Hello,

I would like to join this GB and have an idea of what parts I want; are there any extras that I can buy, if not, will there be more opportunities to get the GH60 stuff?

Talk to mkawa, he was looking to do a round 2.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jabar on Fri, 03 October 2014, 19:40:36
tj, did you record my address change?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 03 October 2014, 20:31:19
tj, did you record my address change?

Yes, but I'll be posting something over the weekend so that everyone can check, verify and modify orders if they aren't showing correctly, including addresses.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: p3lim on Fri, 03 October 2014, 21:17:44
What are the LED options available on this board? Would love to do indicators based on the active layer or some other trigger through the firmware.

It has probably been answered before, but it's over 130 pages without a search option.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Sat, 04 October 2014, 00:04:46
What are the LED options available on this board? Would love to do indicators based on the active layer or some other trigger through the firmware.

It has probably been answered before, but it's over 130 pages without a search option.

I believe the LED options are pretty limited on this board.  I am not the right person to answer this, but I believe it only supports caps lock and the WASD cluster.  There might be a couple more leds, but not much more than that if I remember correctly...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 05:42:08
What are the LED options available on this board? Would love to do indicators based on the active layer or some other trigger through the firmware.

It has probably been answered before, but it's over 130 pages without a search option.

I believe the LED options are pretty limited on this board.  I am not the right person to answer this, but I believe it only supports caps lock and the WASD cluster.  There might be a couple more leds, but not much more than that if I remember correctly...

It supports full backlighting but needs an extra module for that (should be programmable as well iirc).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Sat, 04 October 2014, 08:42:00
What are the LED options available on this board? Would love to do indicators based on the active layer or some other trigger through the firmware.

It has probably been answered before, but it's over 130 pages without a search option.

I believe the LED options are pretty limited on this board.  I am not the right person to answer this, but I believe it only supports caps lock and the WASD cluster.  There might be a couple more leds, but not much more than that if I remember correctly...

It supports full backlighting but needs an extra module for that (should be programmable as well iirc).
Ya. I have heard about the extra module for full backlighting, but I didn't think it was fully tested and working yet. I am sure as people get their boards this will get ironed out pretty quickly.

Pardon my ignorance, by requiring 'an extra module', is that extra hardware or is it only an addition to the firmware somehow? Do you know how this 'module' is implemented?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:01:09
Ya. I have heard about the extra module for full backlighting, but I didn't think it was fully tested and working yet. I am sure as people get their boards this will get ironed out pretty quickly.

Pardon my ignorance, by requiring 'an extra module', is that extra hardware or is it only an addition to the firmware somehow? Do you know how this 'module' is implemented?

I don't know the state of the addon module. I know komar had a prototype made though.

It's a small addon PCB that gets soldered onto the main PCB. It has a seperate controller for the LEDs as the main controller hasn't got enough pins iirc.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:25:16
Ya. I have heard about the extra module for full backlighting, but I didn't think it was fully tested and working yet. I am sure as people get their boards this will get ironed out pretty quickly.

Pardon my ignorance, by requiring 'an extra module', is that extra hardware or is it only an addition to the firmware somehow? Do you know how this 'module' is implemented?

I don't know the state of the addon module. I know komar had a prototype made though.

It's a small addon PCB that gets soldered onto the main PCB. It has a seperate controller for the LEDs as the main controller hasn't got enough pins iirc.
Cool. Thx. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Karura on Mon, 06 October 2014, 05:42:19
For the Winkeyless layout without a split R-shift, how are people going to map the fn layers?

Also are people using one or two additional layers?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Tue, 07 October 2014, 00:23:20
tj, did you record my address change?

Yes, but I'll be posting something over the weekend so that everyone can check, verify and modify orders if they aren't showing correctly, including addresses.

Did this happen and I missed it?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 07 October 2014, 00:32:28
tj, did you record my address change?

Yes, but I'll be posting something over the weekend so that everyone can check, verify and modify orders if they aren't showing correctly, including addresses.

Did this happen and I missed it?

No, I decided to hold off another week before tossing it up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: sth on Tue, 07 October 2014, 04:47:18
tj, did you record my address change?

Yes, but I'll be posting something over the weekend so that everyone can check, verify and modify orders if they aren't showing correctly, including addresses.

Did this happen and I missed it?

No, I decided to hold off another week before tossing it up.

 :-\
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 12 October 2014, 19:44:22
Click here -

MOD EDIT: NO PERSONAL INFO AT ALL


Check your order and address.  Is it wrong?

Click here -

MOD EDIT: NO PERSONAL INFO AT ALL


Enter the correct info.  I'll leave this up for a month.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 12 October 2014, 20:10:21
I don't think it's a good idea to have all that information publicly available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 12 October 2014, 20:20:34
I don't think it's a good idea to have all that information publicly available.
Agreed,

On a side note, does someone willing to let go their 1 or 2 PCB(plan to assemble it for a friend to invite him to this hobby)? I bought someone's plate and stabs on impulse and I need a pcb to make the shipping worthwhile.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 12 October 2014, 20:28:03
Click here -

MOD EDIT: NO PERSONAL INFO AT ALL


Check your order and address.  Is it wrong?

Click here -

MOD EDIT: NO PERSONAL INFO AT ALL


Enter the correct info.  I'll leave this up for a month.

I didn't see my order in the sheet linked above.

Does that spreadsheet include the orders that were picked up from the sheet below??

Payment deadline has passed. If you haven't paid by now, consider your order canceled.

Open invoice orders are now posted for sale.

Here are the orders for sale. If you want to take over an order, post here in the thread with the row number from the spreadsheet. We will contact you for your info and to send an invoice. Payment will be expected immediately. Thanks! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj13Z1f7GUuzdGY0WlF1SjRkZ0VOVVpUMzV5bjg4dWc&usp=sharing

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 12 October 2014, 20:28:41
Please remove that link.  I really don't appreciate having my personal information available for all to see.  Who knows if that has been downloaded by now and what people might do with that info.

Also, I reported the link in the hopes that it gets modified quicker.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 12 October 2014, 20:45:28
Address change submitted. Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nil on Sun, 12 October 2014, 21:05:28
Is that the most up to date information? I had taken over whiteduck's order last year on June 28, 2013 which jdcarpe processed, and he also accepted an address change I requested on February 12, 2014. I don't see any of my information up there?

Just to confirm, the order was:
1 x Costar stabs
1 gh 60 pcb
1 ansi 1.5x plate
60 mx blue switches (ordered from deskthority)
assembly (added onto the order change)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: salmo on Sun, 12 October 2014, 21:53:54
That spreadsheet is almost as dangerous as a phone book! 

In all seriousness, I get why it's unnerving.  But I do think it's funny how we get kind of sensitive in this day and age about info that pretty recently was expected to be in the public domain.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 12 October 2014, 23:34:54
Welp, there went that idea.  Bleh.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 13 October 2014, 02:00:31
Welp, there went that idea.  Bleh.

You probably need to restrict access to it as someone that already has the link can still access it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 13 October 2014, 03:35:39
Like Nil I took over an order, I hope that mine has been noted down, since the old, very old, spreadsheets in the first post don't reflect the orders that has been taken over.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 13 October 2014, 05:39:04
That spreadsheet is almost as dangerous as a phone book! 

In all seriousness, I get why it's unnerving.  But I do think it's funny how we get kind of sensitive in this day and age about info that pretty recently was expected to be in the public domain.

You would still have to know the person's name or number to get the rest of the information. And on top of that you don't know what kind of situation some people are in, so what might be unnerving to you could be potentially dangerous to someone else.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Autolyze on Tue, 14 October 2014, 21:30:53
My shipping address has changed since this started and I missed out on the questionable spreadsheet action. Is a PM sufficient for an address change or are we waiting for a new solution of some form?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: eon on Wed, 15 October 2014, 03:08:30
Same here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tlt on Wed, 15 October 2014, 14:00:39
Same here. I don't keep up with this thread so it's easy to miss something like this. The best thing would be an e-mail with a confirmation link to everyone just before shipping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: add1ct3dd on Thu, 16 October 2014, 03:30:07
Hmm, I was going to ask if anyone wanted to sell their order, but it seems people who have had someone elses orders may not get it?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 16 October 2014, 06:08:12
Hmm, I was going to ask if anyone wanted to sell their order, but it seems people who have had someone elses orders may not get it?

People who paid for an order will get it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: add1ct3dd on Thu, 16 October 2014, 10:23:27
Hmm, I was going to ask if anyone wanted to sell their order, but it seems people who have had someone elses orders may not get it?

People who paid for an order will get it.

Yeah sorry didn't mean like that - I just saw the previous posts stating that the "updated" people weren't on the list :]

I'd certainly be after a set if anyone is selling though!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 16 October 2014, 10:43:20
Don't know why the address change form was removed, but here it is again.

If you know your address has changed, please fill this out even if you've PMed one of the four of us over the past 18 months just in case it slipped through the cracks.

http://goo.gl/forms/koFeGiUzL1
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 16 October 2014, 16:40:22
All filled out!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Flamingchook on Thu, 16 October 2014, 18:01:50
Not too sure if mine needed changing so I filled the firm out anyway.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: battletux on Thu, 16 October 2014, 21:30:25
Not too sure if mine needed changing so I filled the firm out anyway.


Same here
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Tranquilite on Thu, 16 October 2014, 22:29:54
Finally got to change my address. Looking forward to my PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: RickyJ on Sun, 19 October 2014, 14:14:56
My shipping address hasn't changed, so I should be ok I'd think.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:35:02
Been waiting since i joined gh for this to end, its the only thing holding me back (and cmyw)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 19 October 2014, 17:15:22
(and cmyw)

How are those related?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sun, 19 October 2014, 17:26:52
(and cmyw)

How are those related?

they are both things i'm not giving up on
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: heeliqin on Mon, 20 October 2014, 09:22:15
The delivery address has been updated
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 20 October 2014, 10:58:30
high five dubs, been waiting an ages for both of these, ain't wasting all that patients!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: viasacra89 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 20:16:12
Not sure if this is the right place, but I was wondering if anyone had a 3d model of the poker case (or any case that would fit the gh60).  I'm thinking of 3d printing a case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Qipz on Thu, 23 October 2014, 17:59:03
Not sure if this is the right place, but I was wondering if anyone had a 3d model of the poker case (or any case that would fit the gh60).  I'm thinking of 3d printing a case.

A quick googling gave me this, http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/3dprinting
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 01 November 2014, 18:32:10
Have we received stabilizers yet? Just curious when shipping might start
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 01 November 2014, 19:34:12
Stabilizers were sent, but the 6.25 have a bend in the wire that causes problems with plate. I'll be getting some without the bend to resolve that issue from GMK in a few more weeks and send some to tj for this order. Perhaps they are waiting to send anything until this is resolved?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jabar on Mon, 03 November 2014, 18:33:26
Updating my address via that form right now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: p3lim on Tue, 04 November 2014, 03:36:41
If you haven't already noticed, Massdrop has taken real interest into this board, and you might see another chance of getting it:

https://www.massdrop.com/vote/diy-keyboard-pcbs
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 04 November 2014, 03:48:08
If you haven't already noticed, Massdrop has taken real interest into this board, and you might see another chance of getting it:

https://www.massdrop.com/vote/diy-keyboard-pcbs

Unfortunately we won't be seeing anyone else carrying the GH60 until this GB is done. MechanicalKeyboards said ages ago that they want to carry the PCB's but the gerber files still aren't available for them to do another run.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: p3lim on Tue, 04 November 2014, 04:27:14
If you haven't already noticed, Massdrop has taken real interest into this board, and you might see another chance of getting it:

https://www.massdrop.com/vote/diy-keyboard-pcbs

Unfortunately we won't be seeing anyone else carrying the GH60 until this GB is done. MechanicalKeyboards said ages ago that they want to carry the PCB's but the gerber files still aren't available for them to do another run.

I thought the gerber files were publicly available, the keyboard is OSHW after all.

Edit:

Found em: http://blog.komar.be/projects/gh60-programmable-keyboard/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 04 November 2014, 04:38:07
Those are for the previous revision, they do work but they have a number of problems that have been resolved in the last update.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: DYSEQTA on Wed, 05 November 2014, 09:02:10
Stabilizers were sent, but the 6.25 have a bend in the wire that causes problems with plate. I'll be getting some without the bend to resolve that issue from GMK in a few more weeks and send some to tj for this order. Perhaps they are waiting to send anything until this is resolved?

Where are you getting the comstar stabilizers from? I have been hunting all over the net and I am finding it very difficult to find a supplier for stabilizers :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 05 November 2014, 09:10:01
costar stabilizers aren't being used iirc - I believe they have all been replaced with cherry ones due to not being able to be sourced.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 05 November 2014, 09:22:39
Stabilizers were sent, but the 6.25 have a bend in the wire that causes problems with plate. I'll be getting some without the bend to resolve that issue from GMK in a few more weeks and send some to tj for this order. Perhaps they are waiting to send anything until this is resolved?

Where are you getting the comstar stabilizers from? I have been hunting all over the net and I am finding it very difficult to find a supplier for stabilizers :(

FWIW, costar stabilizers are currently available from WASD (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts.html).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: DYSEQTA on Wed, 05 November 2014, 10:20:33
Stabilizers were sent, but the 6.25 have a bend in the wire that causes problems with plate. I'll be getting some without the bend to resolve that issue from GMK in a few more weeks and send some to tj for this order. Perhaps they are waiting to send anything until this is resolved?

Where are you getting the comstar stabilizers from? I have been hunting all over the net and I am finding it very difficult to find a supplier for stabilizers :(

FWIW, costar stabilizers are currently available from WASD (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-parts.html).

Thanks!  :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 05 November 2014, 10:23:20
Stabilizers were sent, but the 6.25 have a bend in the wire that causes problems with plate. I'll be getting some without the bend to resolve that issue from GMK in a few more weeks and send some to tj for this order. Perhaps they are waiting to send anything until this is resolved?

Can TJ confirm?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 07 November 2014, 17:08:25
well i am still hoping for this as a present under my xmas tree (2014)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 07 November 2014, 17:14:56
Stabilizers were sent, but the 6.25 have a bend in the wire that causes problems with plate. I'll be getting some without the bend to resolve that issue from GMK in a few more weeks and send some to tj for this order. Perhaps they are waiting to send anything until this is resolved?

Can TJ confirm?

I mean, that's one thing.  I still have to reconfirm orders and there's still a week before I close the mailing changes sheet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 07 November 2014, 17:17:40
I mean, that's one thing.  I still have to reconfirm orders and there's still a week before I close the mailing changes sheet.

To make your life easier, my order and everything is the same ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 07 November 2014, 17:19:01
I mean, that's one thing.  I still have to reconfirm orders and there's still a week before I close the mailing changes sheet.

To make your life easier, my order and everything is the same ;)

One down!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: vorn on Wed, 12 November 2014, 05:19:07
One down!

hahahaha  :)) :))
We've all waited this long... if patience wasn't one of our virtues before, it sure is now ;) I can't thank the organisers of this GB enough! Very excited to click and clack away when my GH60 arrives!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 14 November 2014, 10:19:04
good lord. this is approaching a 7-bit group buy time table.

as far as stabs go. costar stabs suck for what its worth. i am a straight cherry man myself.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Arcoril on Fri, 14 November 2014, 13:42:18
as far as stabs go. costar stabs suck for what its worth. i am a straight cherry man myself.

How do you figure? It's not really black and white like that. Costar stabs have virtually no effect on feel. Cherry stabs require removal and clipping in order to not feel mushy when bottoming out. And in terms of removal, you're going to have a bad time if you try to remove Cherry stabs for lubing/maintenance without desoldering switches. I also can't count the number of times that I've inadvertently unseated a wire on a Cherry stab while trying to remove a key.

I go with Cherry stabs where I can because I have a ton of them, but Costar stabs have some huge advantages.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: AKmalamute on Fri, 14 November 2014, 15:09:02
Costar stabs have virtually no effect on feel.

Disagree strongly. Straight cherry man myself, so I agree with Tricheboars on that front.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: geogga on Fri, 14 November 2014, 15:31:27
Edit: hehe., forgot about the active GB sticky, silly me!

But when will the next run be? I know obviously the first run (this) has to be finished. Maybe a few months after this first run finishes?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 14 November 2014, 15:42:59
But when will the next run be? I know obviously the first run (this) has to be finished. Maybe a few months after this first run finishes?

I highly doubt there would be a second run within the calendar year 2015.  If anything, maybe a year from the end of this run.  But probably never.  After this finishes, I believe the designs will become open source and some vendors will probably stock the PCBs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: do_Og@n on Fri, 14 November 2014, 15:59:39
If I didn't order stabilizers can I have mine now?

PWEEEAAAZZZEEE!!! ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Arcoril on Fri, 14 November 2014, 19:29:44
Costar stabs have virtually no effect on feel.

Disagree strongly. Straight cherry man myself, so I agree with Tricheboars on that front.

I'm genuinely curious to know what you dislike about Costar stabs.

I guess where I'm coming from is that if I take a stabilized key like enter and mount it without a stabilizer, it feels exactly the same to me when I strike it in the center vs. when I have it mounted with a Costar stabilizer. When it's a Cherry stabilizer I feel mushiness when bottoming out unless the feet have been clipped.

Again, I use Cherry stabilizers on virtually all of my builds since they're much more readily available than Costar stabilizers. If I'm building the board from scratch it's a non-issue since I get to clip the feet and apply lube. If it's an OEM board that doesn't have the cutouts, then there's no quick fix unfortunately.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 14 November 2014, 23:04:24
If I didn't order stabilizers can I have mine now?

PWEEEAAAZZZEEE!!! ;)

Last time I spoke with TJ, he told me that his plan is to wait until he has everything in hand (including the replacement stabilizer wires), and go down the list from the top. No exceptions. I don't have my GH60 stuff, either, so I'm playing the waiting game, same as you guys.

TJ is also hoping that anyone who had an address change will update their info via the form he created for that purpose.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 14 November 2014, 23:11:06
If I didn't order stabilizers can I have mine now?

PWEEEAAAZZZEEE!!! ;)

Last time I spoke with TJ, he told me that his plan is to wait until he has everything in hand (including the replacement stabilizer wires), and go down the list from the top. No exceptions. I don't have my GH60 stuff, either, so I'm playing the waiting game, same as you guys.

TJ is also hoping that anyone who had an address change will update their info via the form he created for that purpose.

I'm also hoping to have the order form edited this weekend so everyone can check their orders and fill out that same change form if need be.  It's getting there slowly.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: do_Og@n on Sat, 15 November 2014, 01:55:26
If I didn't order stabilizers can I have mine now?

PWEEEAAAZZZEEE!!! ;)

Last time I spoke with TJ, he told me that his plan is to wait until he has everything in hand (including the replacement stabilizer wires), and go down the list from the top. No exceptions. I don't have my GH60 stuff, either, so I'm playing the waiting game, same as you guys.

TJ is also hoping that anyone who had an address change will update their info via the form he created for that purpose.

I'm also hoping to have the order form edited this weekend so everyone can check their orders and fill out that same change form if need be.  It's getting there slowly.

No worries guys....I'm just excited to build my first keyboard. Thanks for making sure everything is completely ready before proceeding! Just in case I submitted a change to my shipping address. I know I've done it on another group buy but can't remember if I've done it here.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 16 November 2014, 03:45:49
as far as stabs go. costar stabs suck for what its worth. i am a straight cherry man myself.

How do you figure? It's not really black and white like that. Costar stabs have virtually no effect on feel. Cherry stabs require removal and clipping in order to not feel mushy when bottoming out. And in terms of removal, you're going to have a bad time if you try to remove Cherry stabs for lubing/maintenance without desoldering switches. I also can't count the number of times that I've inadvertently unseated a wire on a Cherry stab while trying to remove a key.

I go with Cherry stabs where I can because I have a ton of them, but Costar stabs have some huge advantages.

^ This!

The only advantage of cherry stabs is that it is easier to replace keycaps (or you have severe OCD and you need all your keyboard to be branded from the same company).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Sun, 16 November 2014, 04:01:42
as far as stabs go. costar stabs suck for what its worth. i am a straight cherry man myself.

How do you figure? It's not really black and white like that. Costar stabs have virtually no effect on feel. Cherry stabs require removal and clipping in order to not feel mushy when bottoming out. And in terms of removal, you're going to have a bad time if you try to remove Cherry stabs for lubing/maintenance without desoldering switches. I also can't count the number of times that I've inadvertently unseated a wire on a Cherry stab while trying to remove a key.

I go with Cherry stabs where I can because I have a ton of them, but Costar stabs have some huge advantages.

^ This!

The only advantage of cherry stabs is that it is easier to replace keycaps (or you have severe OCD and you need all your keyboard to be branded from the same company).

.....and pcb mounting.....it shouldn't be a surprise that some of these GH60s to be built will not have a plate :P I know that at least one of mine will not.

I also find that PCB mount cherry spacebars feel really sturdy over costar but that is a personal preference i guess.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: yuiop on Sun, 16 November 2014, 16:03:45
Costar stabs have thinner wires compared to cherry stabs (3/64" vs 1/16").  From my experience, it's more prone to make metal noises especially once it gets bent out of shape (even if it's very slightly) and in general tends to rattle more than cherry.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Sun, 16 November 2014, 18:39:50
Costar stabs have thinner wires compared to cherry stabs (3/64" vs 1/16").  From my experience, it's more prone to make metal noises especially once it gets bent out of shape (even if it's very slightly) and in general tends to rattle more than cherry.
A little lube silences them for me. I am happy with both. I find cherry can be a bit more temperamental, but nothing dramatic.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 17 November 2014, 01:48:38
cherry stab often doesn't even work with not-OEM keycaps and you have to sand/file/cut to prevent friction.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 17 November 2014, 02:29:34
cherry stab often doesn't even work with not-OEM keycaps and you have to sand/file/cut to prevent friction.

Are you saying Cherry stabs don't work with Cherry boards? wat?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 17 November 2014, 03:26:36
cherry stab often doesn't even work with not-OEM keycaps and you have to sand/file/cut to prevent friction.

Are you saying Cherry stabs don't work with Cherry boards? wat?

cherry profile keycaps are cherry-OEM keycaps :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 17 November 2014, 04:10:30
So what would be non OEM caps for you then?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 17 November 2014, 04:13:32
So what would be non OEM caps for you then?

any keycap set that doesn't come with the keyboard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 17 November 2014, 04:20:02
But neither GMK nor BSP caps come with keyboards anymore to my knowledge? :P

I've only heard of problems with Cherry stabs with warped spacebars.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: n0rvig on Fri, 21 November 2014, 19:12:14
Costar stabs have thinner wires compared to cherry stabs (3/64" vs 1/16").  From my experience, it's more prone to make metal noises especially once it gets bent out of shape (even if it's very slightly) and in general tends to rattle more than cherry.

+1 this! Stopping the metal rattle is what it's all about!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 21 November 2014, 20:14:14
Costar stabs have thinner wires compared to cherry stabs (3/64" vs 1/16").  From my experience, it's more prone to make metal noises especially once it gets bent out of shape (even if it's very slightly) and in general tends to rattle more than cherry.

+1 this! Stopping the metal rattle is what it's all about!

EK's Mechlube will stop the Costar stabilizers from rattling completely.  I imagine super thick from Techkeys or CtrlAlt would achieve the same thing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Fri, 21 November 2014, 20:45:16
Costar stabs have thinner wires compared to cherry stabs (3/64" vs 1/16").  From my experience, it's more prone to make metal noises especially once it gets bent out of shape (even if it's very slightly) and in general tends to rattle more than cherry.

+1 this! Stopping the metal rattle is what it's all about!

EK's Mechlube will stop the Costar stabilizers from rattling completely.  I imagine super thick from Techkeys or CtrlAlt would achieve the same thing.
Superlube works well for this too, it's cheap and widely available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 25 November 2014, 01:57:51
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit?usp=sharing

Check your order here.

http://goo.gl/forms/koFeGiUzL1

Notate any errors here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 25 November 2014, 07:57:01
Mine still looks good.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 25 November 2014, 08:06:37
tjcaustin, I forgot to add that the request the order made that I took over, for the added green/yellow LED's is not wanted anymore. I'm not into LEDs, but afaik that wasnt even possible to begin with without the addon board.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 25 November 2014, 09:13:53
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit?usp=sharing

Check your order here.

http://goo.gl/forms/koFeGiUzL1

Notate any errors here.
If we submitted changes previously do we need to do it again?

I took over an unpaid order when those were sold but none of those newer changed orders are in the spreadsheet linked.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 25 November 2014, 10:03:39
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit?usp=sharing

Check your order here.

http://goo.gl/forms/koFeGiUzL1

Notate any errors here.

my order doesn't show up... should I worry? I took over someone else's order (but I can't really remember who, he didn't pay, so I took his order)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 25 November 2014, 10:11:09
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit?usp=sharing

Check your order here.

http://goo.gl/forms/koFeGiUzL1

Notate any errors here.

my order doesn't show up... should I worry? I took over someone else's order (but I can't really remember who, he didn't pay, so I took his order)

I'm in the same boat, if you can remember look up what he ordered, lucky for me I remembered a certain unique question he asked + all the components he needed. Think back to what you looked for in the order you took over.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 25 November 2014, 10:28:29
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit?usp=sharing

Check your order here.

http://goo.gl/forms/koFeGiUzL1

Notate any errors here.

my order doesn't show up... should I worry? I took over someone else's order (but I can't really remember who, he didn't pay, so I took his order)

I'm in the same boat, if you can remember look up what he ordered, lucky for me I remembered a certain unique question he asked + all the components he needed. Think back to what you looked for in the order you took over.

the order was super generic (2 pcb + 2 poker plates).

It could be the order by mbreslin WITHOUT assembly, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: codyeatworld on Tue, 25 November 2014, 10:38:00
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit?usp=sharing

Check your order here.

http://goo.gl/forms/koFeGiUzL1

Notate any errors here.

Glad to see this finally moving...

My order is under my old username but it looks good.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 25 November 2014, 12:02:43
If your order is missing, fill out the form.  If you've already filled out the form you're fine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Paranoid on Tue, 25 November 2014, 13:13:20
just to be clear, this is to see if your original order is correct, not to ask for any changes, correct?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 25 November 2014, 13:19:38
just to be clear, this is to see if your original order is correct, not to ask for any changes, correct?

Correct. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 25 November 2014, 13:20:52
I'm all good, haven't moved, send it any time now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: osxoep on Tue, 25 November 2014, 13:56:25
I can only see one of my orders, I took over another one.

Do you want me to fill out the form? I can give you the PayPal invoice numbers if you would like.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 26 November 2014, 11:25:42
My order is not on the list. I took over an unpaid order and do not know the original owner.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:57:59
This is why I have a form.  Komar collated things and missed the post sale order pick up, so now I'm trying to get those ducks in an order to see if I need to get more parts at some point.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: JBert on Wed, 26 November 2014, 14:39:16
So how's Komar doing? Are his PCBs / plates still available at the manufacturer, and is he ready to ship once he lets those come over?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 26 November 2014, 14:53:11
So how's Komar doing? Are his PCBs / plates still available at the manufacturer, and is he ready to ship once he lets those come over?

Last I talked to him, he's busy with his thesis right now.  I have all the plates for the buy and waiting for a list from him for what he needs.  I have no idea what his plans are for fulfillment at the moment.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: JBert on Thu, 27 November 2014, 14:02:10

Last I talked to him, he's busy with his thesis right now.  I have all the plates for the buy and waiting for a list from him for what he needs.  I have no idea what his plans are for fulfillment at the moment.
Thanks for the update, even if news is a little scarce. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: chel- on Fri, 28 November 2014, 17:52:29
Could I get a confirmation on my address change?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Tranquilite on Sun, 30 November 2014, 11:50:25
I just submitted what should hopefully be my last shipping address change for this group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: gimpster on Mon, 01 December 2014, 23:11:26
So what's the current ETA? We've had money tied up in this forever and it's pretty hard to understand why people who don't have any stabilizers on their order need to keep waiting for those to arrive.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 02 December 2014, 02:30:35
So how's Komar doing? Are his PCBs / plates still available at the manufacturer, and is he ready to ship once he lets those come over?

I'm fine, don't worry;)
Yes, I'm ready to ship when I get everything I need, like stabs and plates. Then I'll let the manufacturer send me the PCBs, which will take only a couple days.
I will be helped by one other person to make this faster.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 02 December 2014, 04:33:38
So what's the current ETA? We've had money tied up in this forever and it's pretty hard to understand why people who don't have any stabilizers on their order need to keep waiting for those to arrive.

I don't think it's at all hard to understand. It's easier for the organizers to do everything in one big patch, less chance of losing things too.

This is volunteer work.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: gimpster on Tue, 02 December 2014, 18:28:10
I do this kind of work every day. You have a queue. You start at the top with the people whose orders can be filled right now and you work until you get to the people whose orders you can't fill. This isn't harder than doing "everything in one big patch", in fact it's easier. You have to work down a list either way and now your list is smaller. When people have had money tied up in this for over a year, and we keep getting endless delays with no clear answer for when we will be getting what we paid for, it's pretty frustrating. It's even more frustrating when the plans got open-sourced before the GB was completed so now companies are out there selling these kits while people who helped push the project through from the beginning are left in the cold and dark with no expectation for when their long-standing faith and financial support of the community will be rewarded.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 03 December 2014, 10:57:09
I do this kind of work every day. You have a queue. You start at the top with the people whose orders can be filled right now and you work until you get to the people whose orders you can't fill. This isn't harder than doing "everything in one big patch", in fact it's easier. You have to work down a list either way and now your list is smaller. When people have had money tied up in this for over a year, and we keep getting endless delays with no clear answer for when we will be getting what we paid for, it's pretty frustrating. It's even more frustrating when the plans got open-sourced before the GB was completed so now companies are out there selling these kits while people who helped push the project through from the beginning are left in the cold and dark with no expectation for when their long-standing faith and financial support of the community will be rewarded.

I do not believe the final PCB revision files have been publicly released.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 December 2014, 11:08:51
I do this kind of work every day. You have a queue. You start at the top with the people whose orders can be filled right now and you work until you get to the people whose orders you can't fill. This isn't harder than doing "everything in one big patch", in fact it's easier. You have to work down a list either way and now your list is smaller. When people have had money tied up in this for over a year, and we keep getting endless delays with no clear answer for when we will be getting what we paid for, it's pretty frustrating. It's even more frustrating when the plans got open-sourced before the GB was completed so now companies are out there selling these kits while people who helped push the project through from the beginning are left in the cold and dark with no expectation for when their long-standing faith and financial support of the community will be rewarded.

I do not believe the final PCB revision files have been publicly released.

Nope, not yet. The ones people are buying from Taobao are Rev.B Prototype clones or forks of that revision. Makes me sad that people are buying those, when they would be buying the "official" version when it becomes available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 03 December 2014, 11:13:54
I do this kind of work every day. You have a queue. You start at the top with the people whose orders can be filled right now and you work until you get to the people whose orders you can't fill. This isn't harder than doing "everything in one big patch", in fact it's easier. You have to work down a list either way and now your list is smaller. When people have had money tied up in this for over a year, and we keep getting endless delays with no clear answer for when we will be getting what we paid for, it's pretty frustrating. It's even more frustrating when the plans got open-sourced before the GB was completed so now companies are out there selling these kits while people who helped push the project through from the beginning are left in the cold and dark with no expectation for when their long-standing faith and financial support of the community will be rewarded.

I do not believe the final PCB revision files have been publicly released.

Nope, not yet. The ones people are buying from Taobao are Rev.B Prototype clones or forks of that revision. Makes me sad that people are buying those, when they would be buying the "official" version when it becomes available.

people buying those are not a knock on you sir

i had one myself, its just because we are all excited to have these, the real ones will be worth the wait, some of us just needed a little fix to get us through the night
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Wed, 03 December 2014, 11:48:56
I do this kind of work every day. You have a queue. You start at the top with the people whose orders can be filled right now and you work until you get to the people whose orders you can't fill. This isn't harder than doing "everything in one big patch", in fact it's easier. You have to work down a list either way and now your list is smaller. When people have had money tied up in this for over a year, and we keep getting endless delays with no clear answer for when we will be getting what we paid for, it's pretty frustrating. It's even more frustrating when the plans got open-sourced before the GB was completed so now companies are out there selling these kits while people who helped push the project through from the beginning are left in the cold and dark with no expectation for when their long-standing faith and financial support of the community will be rewarded.

At this point we can't really do anything about this as he "wants to wait for all the components before shipping", Which is just a bunch of bull****...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: demik on Wed, 03 December 2014, 13:07:51
lol. told tj not to bother saving this from the day he said he'd help. let it die due to the horrible organization from the people that started this mess.


have nothing but scammers start this **** and then disappear. and you all *****ing from the sidelines.
Title: .
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 03 December 2014, 13:08:58
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Wed, 03 December 2014, 13:40:44
At this point we can't really do anything about this as he "wants to wait for all the components before shipping", Which is just a bunch of bull****...

You know what sounds like a bunch of bull****? The fact that this guy has taken over a group buy he had absolutely nothing to do with in the first place aside from helping with invoicing then having it abandoned on him while he still tries to run his own business, and having all of you **** on him every moment of the day for his decisions to make it easier on himself. You provide zero help here. We're all waiting. Just relax a moment. It's not like he's running away from this whole thing. Once things are all together, I'll even be going to visit him and help out as well to make it easier on him. Can't any of you have some consideration for what has been a trainwreck of a group buy for a guy that has taken over when everything was a mess and trying to put it back together as best he can?

The bull**** is that a few members and I OFFERED to HELP him with this GB but declined with some lame ass excuse. This is not his first time running a group buy and knew that was involved with this group buy when he took it over.

I'll offer it again, ship me the pcb only orders along with the materials, ect and I'll get them out. That will offset the workload.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: kekstee on Thu, 04 December 2014, 04:37:49
Worse than the tied up money is actually just having  a sorted keyset, switches, springs and case sitting on the shelf. I can feel its cold hard stare right trough the box while browsing geekhack.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 04 December 2014, 15:49:48
Yep, my Hammer case is sitting next to me calling.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 04 December 2014, 15:53:07
I think this goes for most people. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39702.msg1470683#msg1470683)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: JonasDK on Thu, 04 December 2014, 16:39:28
Worse than the tied up money is actually just having  a sorted keyset, switches, springs and case sitting on the shelf. I can feel it's cold hard stare right trough the box while browsing geekhack.

Yep, my Hammer case is sitting next to me calling.

Well, atleast your orders aren't getting shipped to someone that isn't active anymore.....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 04 December 2014, 17:45:21
Worse than the tied up money is actually just having  a sorted keyset, switches, springs and case sitting on the shelf. I can feel it's cold hard stare right trough the box while browsing geekhack.

Yep, my Hammer case is sitting next to me calling.

Well, atleast your orders aren't getting shipped to someone that isn't active anymore.....

Who is that? Fill out TJ's form and have them sent to you. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:24:45
Worse than the tied up money is actually just having  a sorted keyset, switches, springs and case sitting on the shelf. I can feel it's cold hard stare right trough the box while browsing geekhack.

Yep, my Hammer case is sitting next to me calling.

Well, atleast your orders aren't getting shipped to someone that isn't active anymore.....
Ya. I am in the same situation for one of my PCBs. I am trusting they will come through when they arrive since this person was a long time member and seems to be well respected. Fingers crossed.

Edit:  Well I just checked and he has not posted since January, but he was 'last active' on Nov 16th, so it looks like he is still lurking, so thats a good sign...  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 04 December 2014, 23:34:31
Worse than the tied up money is actually just having  a sorted keyset, switches, springs and case sitting on the shelf. I can feel it's cold hard stare right trough the box while browsing geekhack.

Yep, my Hammer case is sitting next to me calling.

Well, atleast your orders aren't getting shipped to someone that isn't active anymore.....
Ya. I am in the same situation for one of my PCBs. I am trusting they will come through when they arrive since this person was a long time member and seems to be well respected. Fingers crossed.

Edit:  Well I just checked and he has not posted since January, but he was 'last active' on Nov 16th, so it looks like he is still lurking, so thats a good sign...  :)

I'm in the same boat as yours. Hope all goes well.. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bugsaint on Fri, 05 December 2014, 04:44:12
If I didn't order stabilizers can I have mine now?

PWEEEAAAZZZEEE!!! ;)

Last time I spoke with TJ, he told me that his plan is to wait until he has everything in hand (including the replacement stabilizer wires), and go down the list from the top. No exceptions. I don't have my GH60 stuff, either, so I'm playing the waiting game, same as you guys.

TJ is also hoping that anyone who had an address change will update their info via the form he created for that purpose.

I'm also hoping to have the order form edited this weekend so everyone can check their orders and fill out that same change form if need be.  It's getting there slowly.

No worries guys....I'm just excited to build my first keyboard. Thanks for making sure everything is completely ready before proceeding! Just in case I submitted a change to my shipping address. I know I've done it on another group buy but can't remember if I've done it here.



My order looks good.  Not changed since day 1.  I've already waited this long and my expectations of ever seeing this come to life isn't high so I'm prepared to sit and wait. But my hats off to TJ for taking over things.  I'd personally have one person running it than a load of cooks spoiling the broth...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 05 December 2014, 15:42:55
i ordered this 20 months ago.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 05 December 2014, 15:50:50
i ordered this 20 months ago.

I also ordered this 20 months ago.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 06 December 2014, 15:33:58
i ordered this 20 months ago.

I also ordered this 20 months ago.  :)

Is this group buy still open for new orders?

ROFL
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 06 December 2014, 15:38:06
Since all this is waiting on (supposedly) is stabilizers, could those without stabilizers be shipped?  Also, could those who ordered stabilizers and also participated in Ivan's stabilizer buy just get their stabilizers shipped to them by Ivan and have the rest shipped now?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Mon, 08 December 2014, 07:02:17
Since all this is waiting on (supposedly) is stabilizers, could those without stabilizers be shipped?  Also, could those who ordered stabilizers and also participated in Ivan's stabilizer buy just get their stabilizers shipped to them by Ivan and have the rest shipped now?

IRC, The answer to this is "NO".
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: battletux on Sun, 21 December 2014, 09:50:55
I'll be honest, I've given up on ever seeing my order turn up. I certainly won't be partaking in any GB from those involved in running this. I know the history etc of this GB but refusing to ship the majority of orders because they are waiting on stabs for the few who wanted them is a joke. Why not ship out those that can be completed now to at least appease some of us who have been left in limbo for so long.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 21 December 2014, 10:48:18
As the one that obtained the stabilizers, and the amount of them that were ordered I am pretty sure most orders included them. As far as status, just to recap all the 6.25 size had a switch clearance mid section bend in them making them problematic on plate mount. New wires without the bend are on order but there is a delay from Cherry on getting them to GMK, then to me, then sent to TJ. These should finally be fulfilled sometime in January, at which point I assume orders will start getting delivered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: malu1989 on Mon, 22 December 2014, 03:37:11
If someone wants to jump off, I would be happy to take over a PCB :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 22 December 2014, 05:50:55
thanks for the update Ivan!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: hoggy on Mon, 22 December 2014, 06:54:31
Ivan, sounds good.  Thanks for letting us know.

Speaking only for myself: I'm happy to wait until it turns up.
Title: .
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 22 December 2014, 20:11:52
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bear95 on Mon, 22 December 2014, 20:30:45
Anybody interested in picking up my order? The order includes the GH60 PCB, universal ANSI plate, costar stabilizers, 65 MX red switches, 5 MX black switches, and 2 MX lock switches.

Decided that a simple coolermaster keyboard was enough for me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Sturmfrau on Mon, 22 December 2014, 20:46:03
i ordered this 20 months ago.

I also ordered this 20 months ago.  :)

Lols is this for real? :)) Ermagerd I wanted a GH60 but nvm I guess if the groupbuys will be like this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 22 December 2014, 20:48:18
Has this surpassed Round 4 in duration of wait yet?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 22 December 2014, 23:10:19
no point in even posting. nuked
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: genkidama on Tue, 23 December 2014, 06:43:14
What's the deal with the stabilizers? Seems for me like you all are waiting for quite some time now. I'm just curious as a friend is in on this GB and I for myself am waiting for the revision of the board to pop up (I'm curious, too ^^). I was told it will be revealed after shipments start.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: billnye on Tue, 23 December 2014, 08:21:18

What's the deal with the stabilizers? Seems for me like you all are waiting for quite some time now. I'm just curious as a friend is in on this GB and I for myself am waiting for the revision of the board to pop up (I'm curious, too ^^). I was told it will be revealed after shipments start.

As the one that obtained the stabilizers, and the amount of them that were ordered I am pretty sure most orders included them. As far as status, just to recap all the 6.25 size had a switch clearance mid section bend in them making them problematic on plate mount. New wires without the bend are on order but there is a delay from Cherry on getting them to GMK, then to me, then sent to TJ. These should finally be fulfilled sometime in January, at which point I assume orders will start getting delivered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: genkidama on Tue, 23 December 2014, 09:30:58
Alright, thanks for the news! I hope it'll all ship ealier so that you all can get your beloved GH60's  :thumb:

I'll Keep my fingers crossed for y'all.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: 7bit on Tue, 23 December 2014, 10:09:35
Has this surpassed Round 4 in duration of wait yet?

Round 4 vs. GH60 -- fight!

Round 4:
Ordering started:
2011-10-15 (started as interest check)
Orders closed:
2012-09-19
Production finished:
2013-04-04
Shipped:
2013-07-31 (except for missing items that are not existing)

GH60:
Interest check started:
2012-08-24
Ordering started:
2013-03-21
Orders closed:
2013-04-22
Payment deadline:
2013-06-30
Production finished:
2015-01-?? (almost finished, except for stabilisers)
Shipped:
2015-01-?? (does not ship until everything is there)

Those 2 group buys are about different things.

While for key caps the battle is always about more kinds of keys vs. MOQ, for keyboards it is always prototypes that have to be tested that delays the whole thing.

We don't know when GH60 will ship, but when it does, you will have your order 100%, while in Round 4, people still wait for those row 2 vertical + keys.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tricheboars on Sat, 27 December 2014, 17:25:48
Has this surpassed Round 4 in duration of wait yet?

Round 4 vs. GH60 -- fight!

Round 4:
Ordering started:
2011-10-15 (started as interest check)
Orders closed:
2012-09-19
Production finished:
2013-04-04
Shipped:
2013-07-31 (except for missing items that are not existing)

GH60:
Interest check started:
2012-08-24
Ordering started:
2013-03-21
Orders closed:
2013-04-22
Payment deadline:
2013-06-30
Production finished:
2015-01-?? (almost finished, except for stabilisers)
Shipped:
2015-01-?? (does not ship until everything is there)

Those 2 group buys are about different things.

While for key caps the battle is always about more kinds of keys vs. MOQ, for keyboards it is always prototypes that have to be tested that delays the whole thing.

We don't know when GH60 will ship, but when it does, you will have your order 100%, while in Round 4, people still wait for those row 2 vertical + keys.

oh look. 7bit and gh60 all in one thread. its like all my ancient buys are hanging out together laughing at me and my wallet.  i wants my gh60 and my round 5.  in for the long haul.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 27 December 2014, 17:32:34
i for one am really looking forward to my gh60s, itll be more than worth the wait, thanks to everyone who both started and took over this gb, its a daunting and big task, and however it gets done, im sure itll get done and get done right in the end
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Sat, 27 December 2014, 23:00:10
oh look. 7bit and gh60 all in one thread. its like all my ancient buys are hanging out together laughing at me and my wallet.  i wants my gh60 and my round 5.  in for the long haul.

No worries dude.  You need your GH60 in order to have something to put your round 5 on, so its all good...  :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: kravlin on Tue, 06 January 2015, 17:17:39
Any news on what's going on with this? Still in stab limbo?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: mkaito on Tue, 06 January 2015, 21:07:29
As the one that obtained the stabilizers, and the amount of them that were ordered I am pretty sure most orders included them. As far as status, just to recap all the 6.25 size had a switch clearance mid section bend in them making them problematic on plate mount. New wires without the bend are on order but there is a delay from Cherry on getting them to GMK, then to me, then sent to TJ. These should finally be fulfilled sometime in January, at which point I assume orders will start getting delivered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: spdx on Tue, 06 January 2015, 21:11:55
 Happy new year! GH60ers.  Typing on a GH60 is one of my new year resolutions for 2015. ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: kravlin on Wed, 07 January 2015, 10:41:06
As the one that obtained the stabilizers, and the amount of them that were ordered I am pretty sure most orders included them. As far as status, just to recap all the 6.25 size had a switch clearance mid section bend in them making them problematic on plate mount. New wires without the bend are on order but there is a delay from Cherry on getting them to GMK, then to me, then sent to TJ. These should finally be fulfilled sometime in January, at which point I assume orders will start getting delivered.

Dang. Thanks!
Sounds like things are starting to finally wrap up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: registered99 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 06:49:23
Is there a way to change shipping address? I've moved since I bought the original GH60..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 January 2015, 06:50:36
Is there a way to change shipping address? I've moved since I bought the original GH60..

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit?usp=sharing

Check your order here.

http://goo.gl/forms/koFeGiUzL1

Notate any errors here.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 09 January 2015, 15:18:57
oh look. 7bit and gh60 all in one thread. its like all my ancient buys are hanging out together laughing at me and my wallet.  i wants my gh60 and my round 5.  in for the long haul.

No worries dude.  You need your GH60 in order to have something to put your round 5 on, so its all good...  :P

round 5 order is for my 2 ergodoxes i have. i got on the gh60 before i discovered the ergodox. now i wouldnt go back to a regular staggered keyboard.

the gh60s will be gifts to my brothers. they havent had a mechanical keyboard before so they might as well start at the elite level to save some time. lord knows i climbed that ladder way too slow stopping to buy things on the way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: polarpigs on Thu, 15 January 2015, 06:43:21
So what're the status of the stabs? Are they starting to get delivered to TJ and komar?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: frosty on Thu, 15 January 2015, 08:07:49
So what're the status of the stabs? Are they starting to get delivered to TJ and komar?

I believe it has been said many times that Ivan are still waiting for the stabs to arrive from GMK/Cherry then he'll start delivery it to TJ/Komar
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 15 January 2015, 10:23:44
So I finally got some update on the 6.25 wires. Apparently Cherry Europe, who GMK usually deal with are out of these parts and have no plans to make them any time soon. GMK is going to try sourcing from Cherry Asia... it will probably be a while longer. Sorry for the long waiting.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 15 January 2015, 12:40:42
So I finally got some update on the 6.25 wires. Apparently Cherry Europe, who GMK usually deal with are out of these parts and have no plans to make them any time soon. GMK is going to try sourcing from Cherry Asia... it will probably be a while longer. Sorry for the long waiting.

Given this new information will orders that are not waiting on these specific parts be sent out? I don't see a reason for making members wait an unspecified amount of time for items that aren't part of their order.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 15 January 2015, 12:49:35
It's been answered plenty of times. Orders will be shipped out when everything is ready.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 15 January 2015, 14:00:47
It's been answered plenty of times. Orders will be shipped out when everything is ready.

I'm well aware the question "when will this ship?" has been "answered plenty of times" however we didn't have this latest information when it was answered. It seems to me as if there is no timeframe now as to when the corrected stabilizers will be received. With this new information in hand I'm asking that the previous discussion be brought back up and seriously considered as opposed to just having someone come in here and repeat that my question has been answered before and that under no circumstances will the discussion resume.

What's the deciding factor on when new information will cause the shipping issue to be reconsidered then?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 15 January 2015, 14:03:56
It's been answered plenty of times. Orders will be shipped out when everything is ready.

I'm well aware the question "when will this ship?" has been "answered plenty of times" however we didn't have this latest information when it was answered. It seems to me as if there is no timeframe now as to when the corrected stabilizers will be received. With this new information in hand I'm asking that the previous discussion be brought back up and seriously considered as opposed to just having someone come in here and repeat that my question has been answered before and that under no circumstances will the discussion resume.

What's the deciding factor on when new information will cause the shipping issue to be reconsidered then?

I think TJ is pretty much set on how he plans on doing it. I doubt there are any other "deciding factors" in play.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:13:09
metafour, we have been told that no orders will ship before others. Everything will ship when everything is ready.
I'm not sure if you have your panties in a bunch because you have to wait or what, but just remember that your period will pass. Get a heat pad if your cramps are bothering you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: strict on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:20:07

metafour, we have been told that no orders will ship before others. Everything will ship when everything is ready.
I'm not sure if you have your panties in a bunch because you have to wait or what, but just remember that your period will pass. Get a heat pad if your cramps are bothering you.

:))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 15 January 2015, 23:14:04
metafour, we have been told that no orders will ship before others. Everything will ship when everything is ready.
I'm not sure if you have your panties in a bunch because you have to wait or what, but just remember that your period will pass. Get a heat pad if your cramps are bothering you.

I don't appreciate your level of discourse. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't give you free reign to insult me based on some perceived slight because I asked the person who has the materials in this situation to reconsider their previous stance based on new information. Changing your attitude and approach to other people regardless of the situation would make not only this forum but the world a better place and is something you should consider.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjweir on Fri, 16 January 2015, 07:51:35
I don't appreciate your level of discourse. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't give you free reign to insult me based on some perceived slight because I asked the person who has the materials in this situation to reconsider their previous stance based on new information. Changing your attitude and approach to other people regardless of the situation would make not only this forum but the world a better place and is something you should consider.

+1, I'm consistently amazed at the level of vitriol on this forum.

Title: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: billnye on Fri, 16 January 2015, 07:56:02
metafour, we have been told that no orders will ship before others. Everything will ship when everything is ready.
I'm not sure if you have your panties in a bunch because you have to wait or what, but just remember that your period will pass. Get a heat pad if your cramps are bothering you.

I don't appreciate your level of discourse. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't give you free reign to insult me based on some perceived slight because I asked the person who has the materials in this situation to reconsider their previous stance based on new information. Changing your attitude and approach to other people regardless of the situation would make not only this forum but the world a better place and is something you should consider.
Agreed, metafour. People in this thread especially jump at anyone who asks a question and it's a little saddening :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 16 January 2015, 09:15:47
I don't appreciate your level of discourse. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't give you free reign to insult me based on some perceived slight because I asked the person who has the materials in this situation to reconsider their previous stance based on new information. Changing your attitude and approach to other people regardless of the situation would make not only this forum but the world a better place and is something you should consider.
Agreed, metafour. People in this thread especially jump at anyone who asks a question and it's a little saddening :(
+1

I'm sure I'll get flamed for even asking something but : Out of curiosity, who decided to ship everything together? Could someone explain why that decision was made? It just does not make sense to me. There are people who ordered just PCBs, which are made and ready, so why not ship them out? As I said, I'm just curious. I really don't mind when I get my PCB and I'm not going to try and encourage any decisions to be changed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 16 January 2015, 09:27:21
It's a question that's been asked again and again. People have also asked if they bought stabs in Ivan's GB if they could just have their ordered for stabs for this GB shipped with those and have their PCB and plate shipped to them.

So far the only only answer I've heard for why that won't be done is "because".

I know I'm just frustrated at this point since it's been just shy of two years and updates are minimal.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Qipz on Fri, 16 January 2015, 13:09:39
The reason is (afaik): it's a logistical nightmare to divide the current group and sending out the ones that don't have stabs. Last I heard the person that has a lot of our stuff was doing his thesis (not sure if that's over already or not but I take it he's in school) which makes me come to the conclusion he doesn't have a whole lot of spare time on his hands at the moment for making sure everybody gets their components delivered and making sure there's no errors in the delivery of those who ordered without stabs and making sure they still have everything for those that ordered stabs, this would be doable if it was somebody who has the opportunity to actually spend a whole lot of time on it.

Then again, this is just me speculating...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: demik on Fri, 16 January 2015, 17:56:08
I don't appreciate your level of discourse. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't give you free reign to insult me based on some perceived slight because I asked the person who has the materials in this situation to reconsider their previous stance based on new information. Changing your attitude and approach to other people regardless of the situation would make not only this forum but the world a better place and is something you should consider.
Agreed, metafour. People in this thread especially jump at anyone who asks a question and it's a little saddening :(
+1

I'm sure I'll get flamed for even asking something but : Out of curiosity, who decided to ship everything together? Could someone explain why that decision was made? It just does not make sense to me. There are people who ordered just PCBs, which are made and ready, so why not ship them out? As I said, I'm just curious. I really don't mind when I get my PCB and I'm not going to try and encourage any decisions to be changed.

my guess would be, seeing as tj runs a business, he wants to get this over in one shot. remember most of the originators just up and disappeared from this buy and left this dude hanging.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 16 January 2015, 18:06:44
my guess would be, seeing as tj runs a business, he wants to get this over in one shot. remember most of the originators just up and disappeared from this buy and left this dude hanging.
Yeah, that's the way I understood it. At this point I think we owe it to TJ to just let him handle this however he feels is best and in his own time. I know I can wait a while longer for my PCB..

I just can't help but think it would be easier for TJ (to be clear : I'm not bringing this up because it is better for the buyers) to ship out the orders that can be shipped out now. That way there's less to do when the stabilisers (and anything else that's being waited on) do come in. Of course, there's probably stuff I haven't considered, and TJ will know better than me (or pretty much anyone else) since he's far more experienced. I'm just thinking out loud.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: demik on Fri, 16 January 2015, 18:09:41
multiple trips to post office vs 1/2 trips to post office would also be my guess. but, like you, im just speculating. only he knows why he's doing what he's doing.

and i dont have a say in this buy seeing as i didn't participate in it so i'll stay out of it now
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Digitize on Fri, 16 January 2015, 19:44:33
The level of organizational skills is immense for thee group buys. I give props to all that handles one

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 19 January 2015, 05:55:46
Some people actually wanted to use the GH60 they paid for, not just collect them for the sake of having them, this isn't just a key cap set you don't require, these are functional items that we are waiting for. Some people like me counted on the timeline given by WFD in 2013 and spent hundreds. This group buy failure had repercussions on me as I was to build them for other people. I understand tj doesn't want to do this and he gets a lot of respect for taking it including from me--all I wonder is why don't the people that spent the money and had faith in this group buy get respect as well? It isn't just one man suffering it's the entire community. This hurt. The fact they are sitting there hurts. Some bought expensive cases/trays a year ago, bought key cap sets for them. And still they sit, this group buy is worse than all other group buy failures because they are built, plates made, and will sit for even more months ahead mocking us. It's brutal.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 19 January 2015, 08:15:28
Is the PCB design open so that others could produce them? Is there anybody who does?

I am looking for a 60% PCB with an ATmegaXuY and support for seven extra keys (like the header for the GHPad). It was a long time ago I last checked this thread ... and I when I got I had been expecting at least the second run to take orders.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 20 January 2015, 18:07:48
I agree with Glod here, I'm tempted to write this off as a loss and get another PCB in my build for months now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:01:26
I agree with Glod here, I'm tempted to write this off as a loss and get another PCB in my build for months now.

(it was a drunk tapatalk rambling lol)

Well, im not saying its a total loss, im pretty sure eventually you will get them but if you need a custom 60% absolutely right now i would suggest going with the Nerd60 and spending the extra premium to ship from korea,

its just its brutal that they are sitting there and there is nothing anyone can do. Its not an attack on a TJ more of me just being a realist in saying this totally ****ing sucks and we have every right to say this ****ing sucks and offer help and suggestions without getting shot down. These are keyboards to be used and not key caps to be collected and think that is what defines the difference between waiting for round 4/5 (or waiting for nostalgia/toxic/raindrop/penumbra/calm-depths) and waiting for the GH60.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 21 January 2015, 07:50:25
This is still way better than the Sprit GB
Title: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 21 January 2015, 07:54:34
Edit: Sorry I offended someone with my political comment.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 21 January 2015, 08:37:32
This is still way better than the Sprit GB

In what way?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 21 January 2015, 08:44:27
Cause TJ is well known and reputable and we know what we are waiting for and why
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 21 January 2015, 15:50:20
TJ, I just hope your keeping those things in a fire proof water proof vault with biometric lock. Lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:05:12
Honestly I'm not that pumped to purchase other 60% pcb's. I have at least 5 cases waiting for my boards to go in them. Just wish I could find some better TKL cases for my phantoms.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 21 January 2015, 17:01:17
metafour, we have been told that no orders will ship before others. Everything will ship when everything is ready.
I'm not sure if you have your panties in a bunch because you have to wait or what, but just remember that your period will pass. Get a heat pad if your cramps are bothering you.

I don't appreciate your level of discourse. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't give you free reign to insult me based on some perceived slight because I asked the person who has the materials in this situation to reconsider their previous stance based on new information. Changing your attitude and approach to other people regardless of the situation would make not only this forum but the world a better place and is something you should consider.
I gave you a clear answer to your question. It was short, but it was clear based on the information we have already been given.
There is no new information that would change any of the previous facts, so you talking like you actually know something to me just proves that you don't. There was no need for you to continue on that question, but you just had to have the last word, right?


I don't appreciate your level of discourse. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't give you free reign to insult me based on some perceived slight because I asked the person who has the materials in this situation to reconsider their previous stance based on new information. Changing your attitude and approach to other people regardless of the situation would make not only this forum but the world a better place and is something you should consider.

+1, I'm consistently amazed at the level of vitriol on this forum.


Vitriol? More like the right response to a person with a superiority complex that couldn't take a clear answer for what it was. Asking for more information when there is no need for one, getting the answer, but not being happy with it is no reason to start replying to me like I am the one controlling the facts.

I don't appreciate your level of discourse. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't give you free reign to insult me based on some perceived slight because I asked the person who has the materials in this situation to reconsider their previous stance based on new information. Changing your attitude and approach to other people regardless of the situation would make not only this forum but the world a better place and is something you should consider.
Agreed, metafour. People in this thread especially jump at anyone who asks a question and it's a little saddening :(
+1

I'm sure I'll get flamed for even asking something but : Out of curiosity, who decided to ship everything together? Could someone explain why that decision was made? It just does not make sense to me. There are people who ordered just PCBs, which are made and ready, so why not ship them out? As I said, I'm just curious. I really don't mind when I get my PCB and I'm not going to try and encourage any decisions to be changed.

Who are these people that jump at anyone who asks a question? Because I didn't jump on anyone. I gave a short and factually accurate answer, and then metafour had to go on a rant about new information.

If you guys read up on what happened on the previous page; you could say that you are the ones that "ganged" up on me for telling metafour to calm down in a joking way. On a forum. About keyboards.

Stop being so sensitive, snowflakes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: strict on Wed, 21 January 2015, 17:40:08
Honestly I'm not that pumped to purchase other 60% pcb's. I have at least 5 cases waiting for my boards to go in them. Just wish I could find some better TKL cases for my phantoms.

Im in the same boat, I love my Phantom(s) and want something better than just a Filco case for them.

Im getting a prototype Phantom case made in a couple weeks (hopefully) that you might like. If it turns out as well as I hope I will be running a GB for them.  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 January 2015, 18:27:49
Honestly I'm not that pumped to purchase other 60% pcb's. I have at least 5 cases waiting for my boards to go in them. Just wish I could find some better TKL cases for my phantoms.

Im in the same boat, I love my Phantom(s) and want something better than just a Filco case for them.

Im getting a prototype Phantom case made in a couple weeks (hopefully) that you might like. If it turns out as well as I hope I will be running a GB for them.  ;)

Aluminum?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: strict on Wed, 21 January 2015, 18:33:54
Honestly I'm not that pumped to purchase other 60% pcb's. I have at least 5 cases waiting for my boards to go in them. Just wish I could find some better TKL cases for my phantoms.

Im in the same boat, I love my Phantom(s) and want something better than just a Filco case for them.

Im getting a prototype Phantom case made in a couple weeks (hopefully) that you might like. If it turns out as well as I hope I will be running a GB for them.  ;)

Aluminum?

Negative, one piece plate case in stainless (like the Infinity (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-keyboard-kit)) that you drew up for me  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 22 January 2015, 01:41:39
metafour, we have been told that no orders will ship before others. Everything will ship when everything is ready.
I'm not sure if you have your panties in a bunch because you have to wait or what, but just remember that your period will pass. Get a heat pad if your cramps are bothering you.

I don't appreciate your level of discourse. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't give you free reign to insult me based on some perceived slight because I asked the person who has the materials in this situation to reconsider their previous stance based on new information. Changing your attitude and approach to other people regardless of the situation would make not only this forum but the world a better place and is something you should consider.
I gave you a clear answer to your question. It was short, but it was clear based on the information we have already been given.
There is no new information that would change any of the previous facts, so you talking like you actually know something to me just proves that you don't. There was no need for you to continue on that question, but you just had to have the last word, right?


I don't appreciate your level of discourse. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't give you free reign to insult me based on some perceived slight because I asked the person who has the materials in this situation to reconsider their previous stance based on new information. Changing your attitude and approach to other people regardless of the situation would make not only this forum but the world a better place and is something you should consider.

+1, I'm consistently amazed at the level of vitriol on this forum.


Vitriol? More like the right response to a person with a superiority complex that couldn't take a clear answer for what it was. Asking for more information when there is no need for one, getting the answer, but not being happy with it is no reason to start replying to me like I am the one controlling the facts.

I don't appreciate your level of discourse. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't give you free reign to insult me based on some perceived slight because I asked the person who has the materials in this situation to reconsider their previous stance based on new information. Changing your attitude and approach to other people regardless of the situation would make not only this forum but the world a better place and is something you should consider.
Agreed, metafour. People in this thread especially jump at anyone who asks a question and it's a little saddening :(
+1

I'm sure I'll get flamed for even asking something but : Out of curiosity, who decided to ship everything together? Could someone explain why that decision was made? It just does not make sense to me. There are people who ordered just PCBs, which are made and ready, so why not ship them out? As I said, I'm just curious. I really don't mind when I get my PCB and I'm not going to try and encourage any decisions to be changed.

Who are these people that jump at anyone who asks a question? Because I didn't jump on anyone. I gave a short and factually accurate answer, and then metafour had to go on a rant about new information.

If you guys read up on what happened on the previous page; you could say that you are the ones that "ganged" up on me for telling metafour to calm down in a joking way. On a forum. About keyboards.

Stop being so sensitive, snowflakes.


The situation is more complex than you're making it out to be and you're ignoring some important factors. My request wasn't even directed at you considering you have nothing to do with the shipping or handling of the materials. I was asking the previous situation be reconsidered by those who actually are in a position to do so given this new information that there are items some members are not waiting on whose delivery timeframe is not entirely certain now. You inserted yourself into the situation and then resorted to hostility when I replied with the fact that I was already aware of the previous stance that was determined given the information available at that time.

Your attempt at humor comes off as hostility given our relationship or lack thereof. You can attempt to mask it as our problem because this is as you say "a forum. About keyboards" and that we're being "sensitive snowflakes" and that I'm just trying to "get the last word" but that doesn't remove or even address the issue with your attitude and response. It just continues to lower the level of discourse that is happening among fellow inhabitants of the forum and this planet. This isn't about me talking like I actually know something or getting in the last word. It's about asking the person who has the materials to reconsider their previous decision based on new facts which doesn't necessitate the attitude that you have toward me and my request.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Arcoril on Thu, 22 January 2015, 11:38:42
Honestly I'm not that pumped to purchase other 60% pcb's. I have at least 5 cases waiting for my boards to go in them. Just wish I could find some better TKL cases for my phantoms.

Im in the same boat, I love my Phantom(s) and want something better than just a Filco case for them.

Im getting a prototype Phantom case made in a couple weeks (hopefully) that you might like. If it turns out as well as I hope I will be running a GB for them.  ;)

Man, that's great news! Thanks to your plate GB I've got my Phantom in a TEX TKL case from mechanicalkeyboards.com right now and it's amazing. Count me in for a one-piece plate/case too.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: rtos on Sun, 25 January 2015, 15:11:30
If anyone is interested in taking over my order (1 GH60 PCB, 1 Poker plate, Assembly service, Costar stabilizer set, 63x MX browns) please PM me.  Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: RavenII on Thu, 29 January 2015, 15:09:50
Anyone willing to jump ship, I'm looking for the board, plate, and clears. I'd go for just the board and plate if possible. Let me know!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bear95 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 05:58:14
^PMd
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: viasacra89 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:18:16
As someone who's near the top of the list I really hope that everything will be shipped from the top.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Sat, 31 January 2015, 07:19:34
I will be building and selling at least one of these, so let me know I'd you are trying to get in on this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 31 January 2015, 07:23:24
I will be building and selling at least one of these, so let me know I'd you are trying to get in on this.

id buy one built by you sir, im aquiring a little collection of gh60s built by members lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Sat, 31 January 2015, 07:29:18
I will be building and selling at least one of these, so let me know I'd you are trying to get in on this.

id buy one built by you sir, im aquiring a little collection of gh60s built by members lol
Haha. Awesome. If you are still interested when everything comes in, we can sort out the details then. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 31 January 2015, 07:57:08
I will be building and selling at least one of these, so let me know I'd you are trying to get in on this.

id buy one built by you sir, im aquiring a little collection of gh60s built by members lol
Haha. Awesome. If you are still interested when everything comes in, we can sort out the details then. :)

perfect good sir cheers
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 31 January 2015, 19:53:21
Seen on Taobao: 彰爷外设【Satan】白色全灯版 GH60 PCB 第二批 改进版 更好用版 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141003.10.a1rLhx&scm=1007.10011.4564.0&id=40210832516&pvid=f374292d-74b8-4bf5-9f58-d227db124048)

Literally, what in the hell is this?
The PCB has the print "GH60 Satan intention to do".

I can't read Japanese (if that is what it is...)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: yuiop on Sat, 31 January 2015, 21:27:42
Seen on Taobao: 彰爷外设【Satan】白色全灯版 GH60 PCB 第二批 改进版 更好用版 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141003.10.a1rLhx&scm=1007.10011.4564.0&id=40210832516&pvid=f374292d-74b8-4bf5-9f58-d227db124048)

Literally, what in the hell is this?
The PCB has the print "GH60 Satan intention to do".

I can't read Japanese (if that is what it is...)

That's Chinese clone of GH60.  They've been selling that thing on Taobao for a while.  That particular version even has in-switch LEDs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: RavenII on Sat, 31 January 2015, 22:33:22
...That particular version even has in-switch LEDs.

Wait, does the board offered in this GB not have in switch LEDs?...the design at https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/tH85WHtP (https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/tH85WHtP) shows that the PCB supports it...

The newest version of the GH60 is Rev. C and it is not public yet - you will have to wait until the PCBs from the group buy are shipped.
You cannot buy the newest version anywhere yet. You will have to wait a bit, some orders will get sold in the classifieds and Mechanicalkeyboards.com will also most likely sell them later.

What're the differences?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: yuiop on Sat, 31 January 2015, 22:59:54
...That particular version even has in-switch LEDs.

Wait, does the board offered in this GB not have in switch LEDs?...the design at https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/tH85WHtP (https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/tH85WHtP) shows that the PCB supports it...

I believe you need a separate LED module which is still in development and not included in this GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 31 January 2015, 23:01:22
Hey Ivan, what's the status of the replacement wires?  Aren't they supposed to be going out soon?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: RickyJ on Sun, 01 February 2015, 11:31:03
Fingers crossed for Cherry's dog not eating them. :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Sun, 08 February 2015, 14:20:34
*throws a flare*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 08 February 2015, 14:25:16
*throws a flare*

T Minus 1 year until delivery.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 08 February 2015, 14:39:02
T Minus 1 year until delivery.

#hype
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 08 February 2015, 19:34:08
If the stabilizer wires would make another delay, I think this GB should just ship without it. Someone who is building this either have a spare wire or could DIY it. just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 08 February 2015, 19:35:09
If the stabilizer wires would make another delay, I think this GB should just ship without it. Someone who is building this either have a spare wire or could DIY it. just my 2 cents.

Believe me, that and many other options have been discussed.  So far the answer is tough ****.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 08 February 2015, 19:50:24
If the stabilizer wires would make another delay, I think this GB should just ship without it. Someone who is building this either have a spare wire or could DIY it. just my 2 cents.

Believe me, that and many other options have been discussed.  So far the answer is tough ****.

Yeah, I read that but at this point there is no definite time when will  those stabs wires will arrive. hopefully tjcaustin will reconsider this. I think it's time to ship it now to those longing buyers who have been waiting for a long time rather than keeping it unassembled/unlove.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: TheOpposition on Mon, 09 February 2015, 13:15:03
Thanks for letting me get your GB bear95.  :thumb:

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Tue, 10 February 2015, 07:48:45
so...

Tell me we're not waiting for Cherry to do a bunch of R&D to re-engineer their stabilizer design...

...and then design new machines/tooling to accomplish it...
...and then find someone to build the new machines, for a reasonable price...
...and then haggle and negotiate for max profits...
...and then finally make a whole bunch of them for higher-bidders, first...
...and then restock, after a materials shortage...
...and then finally fulfill this order, 10 years from now.

Because i need something new/smaller/better to type on.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: p3lim on Tue, 10 February 2015, 19:54:59
I think it's a bit funny, but in the timespan this group buy has been running I've discovered geekhack, gotten myself two mechanical keyboards, three keycap sets, and I've now almost finished building a custom 60% (hand-wired) :p

I'm still interested in the PCB tho', just waiting for the classifieds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: TDub on Wed, 11 February 2015, 09:21:35
Not to beat a dead horse any more than we already have, but are we seriously going to wait for space bar wires to be redone? I used a bent paperclip in one of my pokers instead of a proper stab wire, been using it for over a year (longer than this GB in fact!) and it's still working fine. Not even sure which of my 2 Pokers it is in.

Don't get me wrong, if the answer is still no, I'll live with it. I do get the constraints RL puts on GB organizers and appreciate the time and work they put in, so if no is the answer I'll shut up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 12 February 2015, 08:53:41
Stabs wire 6.25 ETA 2 weeks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 February 2015, 09:12:58
I have not followed this before, but if I understood well the GB is almost 2 years now? No offense intended to anyone, just asking. Because we have been very caustic at other GB's leaders for a kit like this that has one month delay and has been shipped already, LOL.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 12 February 2015, 13:14:35
I have not followed this before, but if I understood well the GB is almost 2 years now? No offense intended to anyone, just asking. Because we have been very caustic at other GB's leaders for a kit like this that has one month delay and has been shipped already, LOL.

That is correct.

The GB was started by WhiteFireDragon before the prototype of the board was completed, so it started a little early. Then WFD bailed on the GB and it's been in a bit of a tailspin since then. Various members of the community have stepped in to try and get it completed, or at least some of the work done, but it's going to be an epic task to get everything delivered and completed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 February 2015, 13:15:53
Stabs wire 6.25 ETA 2 weeks.

Woot!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 12 February 2015, 13:17:29
I paid for assembly for 2 GH60s and would happily skip that step.
I also do not want a refund for said assembly. 

Is that possible?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 12 February 2015, 13:20:02
I paid for assembly for 2 GH60s and would happily skip that step.
I also do not want a refund for said assembly. 

Is that possible?



Sure, just send TJ a PM that you no longer want assembly.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 12 February 2015, 13:23:49
Stabs wire 6.25 ETA 2 weeks.

Finally. Thanks Ivan.  Now we'll see what kind of turn around we have after they arrive.  I'd hate to have this thing dragged out until June or later.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 12 February 2015, 13:55:37
I paid for assembly for 2 GH60s and would happily skip that step.
I also do not want a refund for said assembly. 

Is that possible?



Sure, just send TJ a PM that you no longer want assembly.

Will do, thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 February 2015, 14:43:28
I have not followed this before, but if I understood well the GB is almost 2 years now? No offense intended to anyone, just asking. Because we have been very caustic at other GB's leaders for a kit like this that has one month delay and has been shipped already, LOL.

That is correct.

The GB was started by WhiteFireDragon before the prototype of the board was completed, so it started a little early. Then WFD bailed on the GB and it's been in a bit of a tailspin since then. Various members of the community have stepped in to try and get it completed, or at least some of the work done, but it's going to be an epic task to get everything delivered and completed.

There are many factors preventing this project to get into completion then. Nobody's fault.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Thu, 12 February 2015, 21:00:57
Stabs wire 6.25 ETA 2 weeks.
This.

Stabs wire 6.25 ETA 2 weeks.

Woot!
i concur.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bear95 on Fri, 13 February 2015, 04:34:03
Can I get confirmation on an address change? Also, the address changed from an international address to a CON-US one. I don't mind not getting a refund on the price difference if it complicates things but can I make sure that the order gets to the right distributor?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Applet on Sat, 14 February 2015, 04:43:14
I'd love to take over someones buy if there is someone that has lost interest. Only need the PCB (bare, pesoldered or with component kit doesn't matter), but could possibly take over a larger order depending on the order selections. :) (shipping international)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: RickyJ on Sat, 14 February 2015, 13:27:22
Stabs wire 6.25 ETA 2 weeks.

Great news!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 14 February 2015, 13:37:41
Can I get confirmation on an address change? Also, the address changed from an international address to a CON-US one. I don't mind not getting a refund on the price difference if it complicates things but can I make sure that the order gets to the right distributor?

Please send a PM to tjcaustin so that he can confirm for you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Thu, 19 February 2015, 09:57:46
I'd love to take over someones buy if there is someone that has lost interest. Only need the PCB (bare, pesoldered or with component kit doesn't matter), but could possibly take over a larger order depending on the order selections. :) (shipping international)

I ordered 5 pcbs and will be unloading 2 of 5. shoot me a pm.

EDIT***PCB's already spoken for.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: rtos on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:10:23
I'd love to take over someones buy if there is someone that has lost interest. Only need the PCB (bare, pesoldered or with component kit doesn't matter), but could possibly take over a larger order depending on the order selections. :) (shipping international)

If anyone is interested in taking over my order (1 GH60 PCB, 1 Poker plate, Assembly service, Costar stabilizer set, 63x MX browns) please PM me.  I'm open to offers. Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Willyc277 on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:26:52
Looking to pick up a pre-soldered PCB.  Please shoot me a pm if you have one to spare!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 20 February 2015, 12:40:00
Looking to pick up a pre-soldered PCB.  Please shoot me a pm if you have one to spare!
There are some on TaoBao, just translate it http://s.taobao.com/search?q=gh60&commend=all&ssid=s5-e&search_type=mall&sourceId=tb.index&spm=a215z.7106357.5803581.d4908513
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Fri, 20 February 2015, 14:03:44
Looking to pick up a pre-soldered PCB.  Please shoot me a pm if you have one to spare!
There are some on TaoBao, just translate it http://s.taobao.com/search?q=gh60&commend=all&ssid=s5-e&search_type=mall&sourceId=tb.index&spm=a215z.7106357.5803581.d4908513
Not the same revision. Just so you know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 20 February 2015, 14:05:43
Looking to pick up a pre-soldered PCB.  Please shoot me a pm if you have one to spare!
There are some on TaoBao, just translate it http://s.taobao.com/search?q=gh60&commend=all&ssid=s5-e&search_type=mall&sourceId=tb.index&spm=a215z.7106357.5803581.d4908513
Not the same revision. Just so you know.
Thats what I figured, this GB is revc and those are revb and a right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Fri, 20 February 2015, 14:28:49
Looking to pick up a pre-soldered PCB.  Please shoot me a pm if you have one to spare!
There are some on TaoBao, just translate it http://s.taobao.com/search?q=gh60&commend=all&ssid=s5-e&search_type=mall&sourceId=tb.index&spm=a215z.7106357.5803581.d4908513
Not the same revision. Just so you know.
Thats what I figured, this GB is revc and those are revb and a right?
Something like that.  I think it is one rev behind.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 20 February 2015, 16:57:28
(http://www.bookmunchies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Homer-twiddle-thumb.gif)

(http://www.gifpins.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Boing-boing-boing.gif)

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 20 February 2015, 17:07:47
Show Image
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i'm taking bets on June lolololol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nebo on Fri, 20 February 2015, 17:10:15
Curious if anyone what became of switches. I ordered white ones (they don't show up on the order form....) and I remember something happening with the orders going over to DA but I never have got those either. Have my invoice from 2 years ago though.... Trying to off my order as well* but the switches are the bulk of it. Don't really want to split it.


PCB                   $28
1.5plate (pure shift) $16
cherry stabs           $9
1 locking white switch --
70 white switches     $50
-------------------------
                      $103


*People have PMd me in the past but going through my inbox it looks like they're all inactive now.


EDIT - Invoice says:Order will be shipped to the GH60 distributor.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 20 February 2015, 17:31:47
Curious if anyone what became of switches. I ordered white ones (they don't show up on the order form....) and I remember something happening with the orders going over to DA but I never have got those either. Have my invoice from 2 years ago though.... Trying to off my order as well* but the switches are the bulk of it. Don't really want to split it.


PCB                   $28
1.5plate (pure shift) $16
cherry stabs           $9
1 locking white switch --
70 white switches     $50
-------------------------
                      $103


*People have PMd me in the past but going through my inbox it looks like they're all inactive now.


EDIT - Invoice says:Order will be shipped to the GH60 distributor.

I asked about this a year ago or so, and IIRC the response was that they were already with the distributor.  At the time, I believe that was JD (correct me if I'm wrong).  They are either still with that person or, more likely, have been passed to TJ. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 February 2015, 18:08:29
I sent all the switches to TJ already. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:40:44
Anybody have a standard spacebar wire (6.25) and pcb stabs or two full sets with 6.25 wires for sale? I have run out and need some stabs for my brothers keyboards, so that means I need to get them asap.
Let me know via PM so I don't have to spam more than needed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Robstero on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:56:33
Just checked my order on the order sheet - all looks good, although I didn't mention that the switches would be coming from 7Bit.

tjcaustin - I presume you got the 7bit supplied switches ok? Let me know of any problem or if you need more info.




Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: 7bit on Wed, 25 February 2015, 03:35:10
Just checked my order on the order sheet - all looks good, although I didn't mention that the switches would be coming from 7Bit.

tjcaustin - I presume you got the 7bit supplied switches ok? Let me know of any problem or if you need more info.
They went to komar007.
:-)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: boost on Fri, 27 February 2015, 12:37:12
Show Image
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Show Image
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i'm taking bets on June lolololol

of 2016 or 2017?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 27 February 2015, 13:24:29
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HX5NrnsCqfs/U6Ndz1rAtbI/AAAAAAAADW0/7xHh9QvWkoE/s1600/Community.+Troy.+What+is+taking+so+long.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 01 March 2015, 08:51:17
(http://i.imgur.com/BZOGC.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 01 March 2015, 09:10:08
Show Image
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This post has summed up my life...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 01 March 2015, 09:50:34
That post goes with my shirt

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/01/43747225eca5a4df20d94151a36bf3e3.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: 7bit on Mon, 02 March 2015, 04:09:59
Running times of long group buys:
Hyper: 0.5 years (and counting ...; since first prototye (IC: 2 years))
Round3: 0.6 years (completed; without interest check)
Round5: 1.5 years (estimated; includes interest check)
Round4: 2 years (completed; includes interest check)
GH60: 2 years (and counting ... ; without interest check (0.5 years))
:o
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: kakakowie on Mon, 02 March 2015, 04:17:00
Running times of long group buys:
Hyper: 0.5 years (and counting ...; since first prototye (IC: 2 years))
Round3: 0.6 years (completed; without interest check)
Round5: 1.5 years (estimated; includes interest check)
Round4: 2 years (completed; includes interest check)
GH60: 2 years (and counting ... ; without interest check (0.5 years))
:o

Could add Sprit's GB to that list. Although i'm not even sure its considered a GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:38:04
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Everything. Everything is taking so long.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:40:15
Are the stabs the only thing preventing this GB's kits to get delivered?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Jorgenstein on Mon, 02 March 2015, 23:42:51
Alright, selling my GH60. HHKB plate, MX Greens, a few other miscellaneous switches, and assembly service. PM me if interested.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: p3lim on Wed, 04 March 2015, 05:46:21
I was going to wait until the GB was shipped and hit the classifieds, but I thought I'd just ask here as well.

If anyone wants to sell a single PCB from an order once it's shipped, or has an order of just that (not interested in plate, switches etc) that they'd want to transfer, PM me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: billnye on Wed, 04 March 2015, 06:38:58
Stabs wire 6.25 ETA 2 weeks.
RIP
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Wed, 04 March 2015, 07:01:18
Stabs wire 6.25 ETA 2 weeks.
RIP
Its been just over two weeks. Ivan has to get them to TJ before he can start the process.

I have not gotten my new stab wires, so I would not expect TJ to have.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: roman736 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 09:30:03
I would be interested in acquiring an order from someone if there are any takers. I'm new here so not sure the technicalities of it all but the boards look nice.


***edit***  On second thought, getting involved in this is premature. I'll be watching this from the side for now.  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jabar on Wed, 04 March 2015, 21:34:02
Mine will be probably hitting the classifieds once received.

Not surprised by this mess.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: gameaholic on Thu, 05 March 2015, 01:43:20
Is this still something?  Who do I update my shipping address to?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 05 March 2015, 08:33:04
Is this still something?  Who do I update my shipping address to?

tjcaustin will be doing the shipping for US orders. komar007 is handling international.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Neal on Fri, 06 March 2015, 05:40:06
I kind of want to sell my order, how would I go about doing that? Just put it up for sale and pm to have my address changed?

EDIT: I'm not selling it because this GB had has some delays, I'm selling it because I'm no longer all that interested in keyboards as a whole. Just had to clear that up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: p3lim on Fri, 06 March 2015, 05:54:31
I kind of want to sell my order, how would I go about doing that? Just put it up for sale and pm to have my address changed?

Pretty much, use this form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Q7zSzyaoNe9NORlLav84CtTVoMF22OZJyuW9Zr-c5Is/viewform
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Neal on Fri, 06 March 2015, 06:37:45
Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 06 March 2015, 09:31:20


If i buy the PCB without components, will it work with a teensy?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: p3lim on Fri, 06 March 2015, 10:53:55


If i buy the PCB without components, will it work with a teensy?

Why would you? That is more expensive, not to mention you would turn the board incompatible with many cases.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:33:12
If i buy the PCB without components, will it work with a teensy?

Looking at the Rev. A & B of the board and hoping that Rev. C isn't that much different, it isn't an easy change since the microcontroller is embedded on the board. You would have to hack it to make it work with a Teensy. It might be possible, though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:42:15
(http://media.giphy.com/media/syCa5ird7wp0c/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:43:18
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Satan-GH60-PCB-White-Board-LED-DIY-Mechanical-Keyboard/32266124434.html


Is this a ripoff PCB?


Where can i buy the GH60? I dont see an order form
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 06 March 2015, 13:47:35
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Satan-GH60-PCB-White-Board-LED-DIY-Mechanical-Keyboard/32266124434.html


Is this a ripoff PCB?


Where can i buy the GH60? I dont see an order form

Yes, it's a fork of the Rev.B PCB by some Chinese person.


And you can't order one, unfortunately, since orders closed almost 2 years ago.

The plan has always been that once the group buy orders ship, the PCB files would be released (open source hardware). From there, other distributors could make them available for purchase. But delays have set back the group buy shipments.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Sat, 07 March 2015, 11:57:21
Stabs have arrived ;)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1671486#msg1671486
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Sat, 07 March 2015, 12:20:05
Stabs have arrived ;)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1671486#msg1671486
Arrived to Ivan, not to this buy yet. Will probably be at least a week of two before the people responsible for this buy have them in their hands. 

Patience everyone...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Sat, 07 March 2015, 12:33:45
Stabs have arrived ;)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1671486#msg1671486
Arrived to Ivan, not to this buy yet. Will probably be at least a week of two before the people responsible for this buy have them in their hands. 

Patience everyone...

=P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 07 March 2015, 15:29:23
Stabs have arrived ;)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1671486#msg1671486
Arrived to Ivan, not to this buy yet. Will probably be at least a week of two before the people responsible for this buy have them in their hands. 

Patience everyone...

Even so, I'm still calling June or later delivery.



Please surprise me and prove me wrong.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Sat, 07 March 2015, 15:59:48
Stabs have arrived ;)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1671486#msg1671486
Arrived to Ivan, not to this buy yet. Will probably be at least a week of two before the people responsible for this buy have them in their hands. 

Patience everyone...

Even so, I'm still calling June or later delivery.



Please surprise me and prove me wrong.
That sounds about right to me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 07 March 2015, 21:13:02
next up waiting for the boxes TJ has to use to ship all this stuff out and rolls of shipping labels. dude if you mail these out in cheap bubble mailers i will be pissed as hell.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Sat, 07 March 2015, 21:14:52
next up waiting for the boxes TJ has to use to ship all this stuff out and rolls of shipping labels. dude if you mail these out in cheap bubble mailers i will be pissed as hell.

All the shipping supplies I'm sure are on hand since there's been such a long wait for the stabilizers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 07 March 2015, 21:16:10
Lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 07 March 2015, 21:30:11
next up waiting for the boxes TJ has to use to ship all this stuff out and rolls of shipping labels. dude if you mail these out in cheap bubble mailers i will be pissed as hell.

All the shipping supplies I'm sure are on hand since there's been such a long wait for the stabilizers.

A smart man would have everything packaged up already with username and just toss the stabilizers in it.

And I will be pissed as hell too if it comes in a bubble mailer.

I'll be glad when this cluster**** is done.  I know I shouldn't hold it against TJ since he picked up the pieces from WFD and others, but it's hard not to be annoyed when we don't really get any updates.  It would be nice to have an update with a timeline when the stabs arrive.  I'll probably end up building it with my Gaterons and immediately listing it in the classifieds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: demik on Sat, 07 March 2015, 23:05:02
on the bright side, he didn't run away with money like sprit, redline, wfd, dude that ran the bsp buy and countless others
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Tue, 10 March 2015, 19:50:01
(http://i.imgur.com/1cJJ6.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 10 March 2015, 19:58:21
this group buy is a huge huge task

and as much as people moan, some time should be taken to really appreciate all the variables that go in to it, between switches, stabs, smd parts, pcbs, plates etc, all of these parts have different variables, lead times, people and issues to contend with, on top of that there is the assembly work etc, as well as the people who have come and gone, aand the people who have stepped in and had to pick up behind the scenes issues people may not know about

this isnt the same thing as many other gbs, yes it has ran long, but at the same time, it also started very early, so a huge amount of that time can and should be discounted from the front end

yes not having updates doesnt help the situation, but things have been happening behind the scenes, and from what i can tell, once those stabs are on hand shortly, thats everything, and then the clock can begin, and even when it does, this is a mammoth task for anyone, let alone the small group of individuals tasked with it

this has taken a long time, and im sure its going to take a long time yet, and thats fine, because at the end of it, as a community, this will be something that we have created, endured and made happen, and i for one, will be both very happy and proud of my gh60's, whenever it is that i get them
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 10 March 2015, 20:03:03
(http://media.tumblr.com/1b4e75fb757471871c07c374402481fe/tumblr_inline_myqkdvB2ba1rmugz5.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 10 March 2015, 20:20:55
If anything we can all admit that a lot of lessons have been learned with this GB. Personally I think people need to really sit down and do some planning before they commit to such massive GB's, I did the same for my GHPad IC the other day and it blew my mind when I added up how long it would take me to package and ship 25 PCB's with plates and cases. Anything over like 50 packages for one person is a pretty massive task to commit to when it comes to shipping time.

For buys that don't have massive MOQ's I'd personally like to see more people doing GB's with a set number of units available. Too many times we've seen that people get swamped when the demand is higher than anticipated and it never ends well (this buy, Sprit's buy, countless others).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 10 March 2015, 20:21:50

this group buy is a huge huge task

and as much as people moan, some time should be taken to really appreciate all the variables that go in to it, between switches, stabs, smd parts, pcbs, plates etc, all of these parts have different variables, lead times, people and issues to contend with, on top of that there is the assembly work etc, as well as the people who have come and gone, aand the people who have stepped in and had to pick up behind the scenes issues people may not know about

this isnt the same thing as many other gbs, yes it has ran long, but at the same time, it also started very early, so a huge amount of that time can and should be discounted from the front end

yes not having updates doesnt help the situation, but things have been happening behind the scenes, and from what i can tell, once those stabs are on hand shortly, thats everything, and then the clock can begin, and even when it does, this is a mammoth task for anyone, let alone the small group of individuals tasked with it

this has taken a long time, and im sure its going to take a long time yet, and thats fine, because at the end of it, as a community, this will be something that we have created, endured and made happen, and i for one, will be both very happy and proud of my gh60's, whenever it is that i get them

Bunny always brings the love!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 10 March 2015, 20:59:46
No disrespect intended, but if whoever has the materials on hand is smart, there's no reason at least 20 packages a day isn't possible and there's no reason that the buy for the unassembled GH60s shouldn't be all shipped within the month.  Even 10 packages a day hits the one month number.  Someone with a head for logistics should have all the PCBs, plates, switches, and any other materials packed and in a box with the user name or identifier number on it.  Once the stabs come in, they can quickly be wrapped and dropped in the box, the box can be sealed, and the label printed out.  20 boxes a day is 1-2 hours of work if everything has been properly pre-sorted.  You don't even have to have it all shipped that day, prep it to ship Saturday and schedule a pickup for all the boxes.

As far as I'm concerned, this GB has long been a failure due to the leader disappearing and the total lack of updates and accountability.  I respect TJ for picking up the reigns, but just because he took over doesn't mean it should take a back burner and go out lackadaisically.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 10 March 2015, 21:09:13
No disrespect intended, but if whoever has the materials on hand is smart, there's no reason at least 20 packages a day isn't possible and there's no reason that the buy for the unassembled GH60s shouldn't be all shipped within the month.  Someone with a head for logistics should have all the PCBs, plates, switches, and any other materials packed and in a box with the user name or identifier number on it.  Once the stabs come in, they can quickly be wrapped and dropped in the box, the box can be sealed, and the label printed out.  20 boxes a day is 1-2 hours of work if everything has been properly pre-sorted.

As far as I'm concerned, this GB has long been a failure due to the leader disappearing and the total lack of updates and accountability.  I respect TJ for picking up the reigns, but just because he took over doesn't mean it should take a back burner and go out lackadaisically.

me and tj dont get on, i only mention this really to state this isnt me blindly defending people here

but tj has a business, and a life, and he is donating his time to this, and just because he has stepped up to the plate here, doesnt mean that it takes priority of his life, and it is not for us to decide whether he has 6 hours a day for this, 2 hours a day for this or 2 hours a week, what i would suggest is fair to assume/hope, is that when the time comes, he will donate as much free time as he can do getting this completed, whatever that may be

we would all like this sooner rather than later, but we lose sight of the fact that we should be grateful this happened at all, and that there are people willing to donate there time to do something that everyone can enjoy



Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Tue, 10 March 2015, 21:58:10
No disrespect intended, but if whoever has the materials on hand is smart, there's no reason at least 20 packages a day isn't possible and there's no reason that the buy for the unassembled GH60s shouldn't be all shipped within the month.  Even 10 packages a day hits the one month number.  Someone with a head for logistics should have all the PCBs, plates, switches, and any other materials packed and in a box with the user name or identifier number on it.  Once the stabs come in, they can quickly be wrapped and dropped in the box, the box can be sealed, and the label printed out.  20 boxes a day is 1-2 hours of work if everything has been properly pre-sorted.  You don't even have to have it all shipped that day, prep it to ship Saturday and schedule a pickup for all the boxes.

As far as I'm concerned, this GB has long been a failure due to the leader disappearing and the total lack of updates and accountability.  I respect TJ for picking up the reigns, but just because he took over doesn't mean it should take a back burner and go out lackadaisically.

I would like to respectfully disagree with your expectations.  I work full time and I have a company on the side with a friend (we manufacture and sell repair kits for kitesurfing kites - kiteaid.com).  I take care of all of the operations including shipping.  Getting everything verified and packed up and then getting a label printed with the correct shipping information is not the super quick process you are making it out to be.  It usually takes me 15-20 minutes per order to get it packed up and ready to be dropped off in the mailbox.  That is also assuming the package is small enough that I can drop it into a post box.  If I have to actually take it to the post office because it is too big to fit in the post box, it gets even more complicated.

Lets assume that TJ is able to put an hour into this every day (which is a pretty reasonable commitment given work, family and life), that would only be 3 orders per day.  There will be days he just has to get all the stuff in order and nothing will go out.  Just storing everything that he has is a logistical nightmare.  He can't just have orders packed up and ready to go because that would require a warehouse of space. 

I think everyone needs to take a breath and be thankful they are not responsible for taking care of the epicness of this task.  This thankless job is hard enough without having to put up people second guessing and questioning your every move. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 10 March 2015, 22:49:37
I ship regularly and have run my own complicated group buy.  Shipping really is that easy when you've had everything for this long, assuming you've sorted and prepped everything for pre-shipment...and if it's been there for so long, it should all be presorted.  For those 20 orders, you can glance at the sheet and drop the appropriate number of stabs in the bubble wrap, wrap it up, tape it, and drop it in the package and then tape the box closed in well under 5 minutes a box. 

After that, it's a simple matter of printing the shipping label.  I believe with stamps.com you can merge your excel log to prep the shipping addresses more easily.  If you decide to use USPS, you have a scale nearby, toss the package on, input the weight, cut and paste shipping info into the site, add it to your payment queue.  Once it's done, print them out on self-adhesive shipping labels, slap them on.  Putting shipping info in, on a long day, takes 3 minutes.

Maybe I was overstating with an hour, but you could easily have 20 packages prepped and ready to ship in 2 hours if everything else is already there.

And I'm not second guessing, I've already said thanks many times for taking it over, but at the same time I think it deserves to be treated respectfully and people should get what they paid for in a timely manner.  There's nothing wrong with giving a reasonable timeline of my expectations, especially when we don't get updates on this and there have been no compromises with suggestions that would have made delivery easier.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 10 March 2015, 23:11:24
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 10 March 2015, 23:13:47
Without updates and lack of proof of life we can only assume he never opened the boxes and never accounted for everything and everything has been sitting in a non climate controlled garage still sealed. Prove me wrong. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 11 March 2015, 06:01:23
After 2 years there's nothing to be proud of.
It will be when it will be but for sure NEVER AGAIN.
Thanks to TJ.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: vorn on Wed, 11 March 2015, 09:25:03
Is this still something?  Who do I update my shipping address to?

tjcaustin will be doing the shipping for US orders. komar007 is handling international.

Just a quick question jdcarpe... will komar be dealing with international shipping AND international assebly?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 March 2015, 09:30:44

Is this still something?  Who do I update my shipping address to?

tjcaustin will be doing the shipping for US orders. komar007 is handling international.

Just a quick question jdcarpe... will komar be dealing with international shipping AND international assebly?

Yes that is correct.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: vorn on Wed, 11 March 2015, 09:37:40

Is this still something?  Who do I update my shipping address to?

tjcaustin will be doing the shipping for US orders. komar007 is handling international.

Just a quick question jdcarpe... will komar be dealing with international shipping AND international assebly?

Yes that is correct.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Alastoris on Wed, 11 March 2015, 18:41:28
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Satan-GH60-PCB-White-Board-LED-DIY-Mechanical-Keyboard/32266124434.html


Is this a ripoff PCB?


Where can i buy the GH60? I dont see an order form


Is that the bare PCB or does it come with all SMD preassembled, including diodes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 March 2015, 19:12:53
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Satan-GH60-PCB-White-Board-LED-DIY-Mechanical-Keyboard/32266124434.html


Is this a ripoff PCB?


Where can i buy the GH60? I dont see an order form


Is that the bare PCB or does it come with all SMD preassembled, including diodes.
No clue. Since it's not an official GH60, I doubt anyone in this thread would know. ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bupsthename on Sat, 14 March 2015, 14:52:01
I took over an unpaid order. I submitted an update to the form earlier in the thread. Not sure if these are going to be reflected in the spreadsheet. Will these be confirmed before shipping?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 15 March 2015, 17:13:07

Embedded youtube link's not working whatever

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdmOVejUlI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdmOVejUlI)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: gimpster on Tue, 17 March 2015, 13:18:50
Just checking in for my quarterly update on the group buys I'm waiting for. Good to see there's been no movement on this one other than a presumed delivery of some stabilizer wires. I can't believe that I've changed jobs, been promoted, and bought a house since I paid money for this keyboard...the 5-year tenure on my current domicile is actually going to come to an end before this even comes close to being delivered...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:04:01
<insert string of "in the amount of time this group buy took to complete" jokes>
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 18 March 2015, 11:00:15
The stabs wires that were being waited on have been shipped. Hopefully this will get moving now that all the pieces are in place.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 18 March 2015, 11:12:06
The stabs wires that were being waited on have been shipped. Hopefully this will get moving now that all the pieces are in place.
.

(http://media.tumblr.com/6a2282244a8a01732c800bcb524de437/tumblr_inline_n95a1qfKYv1skwua4.gif)


MFW waiting intensifies

(http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1368/38/1368389507881.gif)


The drama queen in me:

(https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1388471197/7844051.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: mauri on Wed, 18 March 2015, 14:02:43
well ****. now i gotta buy solder and ****
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: i3oilermaker on Wed, 18 March 2015, 14:29:39
(http://michiganjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tumblr_lu419rDeQl1r0w390.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 18 March 2015, 14:55:46
Show Image
(http://michiganjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tumblr_lu419rDeQl1r0w390.jpg)


(https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=409403)

In case you miss the context:

More
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 18 March 2015, 17:12:53
The stabs wires that were being waited on have been shipped. Hopefully this will get moving now that all the pieces are in place.

Thank you for the update sir.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: eon on Fri, 20 March 2015, 05:58:15
I took over an unpaid order. I submitted an update to the form earlier in the thread. Not sure if these are going to be reflected in the spreadsheet. Will these be confirmed before shipping?

I would like also to know if my new address has been taken into account too
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 20 March 2015, 08:38:35


If i buy the PCB without components, will it work with a teensy?

for other people that come in this thread later and possibly read this... there is no need for a teensy because the board already comes with a atmel atmega32u4.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 March 2015, 09:28:18
I took over an unpaid order. I submitted an update to the form earlier in the thread. Not sure if these are going to be reflected in the spreadsheet. Will these be confirmed before shipping?

I would like also to know if my new address has been taken into account too

Have you sent a PM to komar007 with your new address? If you are in France, he will be shipping yours.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 20 March 2015, 09:32:00
Is TJ only doing US? Komars shipping to CA as well for international?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Fri, 20 March 2015, 09:40:20
Someone just asked me where these PCBs were made and I am completely blanking on this.  Who did we use to actually get the PCBs printed?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 20 March 2015, 09:55:56
Someone just asked me where these PCBs were made and I am completely blanking on this.  Who did we use to actually get the PCBs printed?

I know it was in China but that probably isn't specific enough, my searchfu is weak this morning. I wanna say maybe pcbwing but that might have just been the phantom.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Fri, 20 March 2015, 09:58:13
Someone just asked me where these PCBs were made and I am completely blanking on this.  Who did we use to actually get the PCBs printed?

I know it was in China but that probably isn't specific enough, my searchfu is weak this morning.
OK. Fair enough. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 20 March 2015, 10:38:26
Someone just asked me where these PCBs were made and I am completely blanking on this.  Who did we use to actually get the PCBs printed?

I know it was in China but that probably isn't specific enough, my searchfu is weak this morning. I wanna say maybe pcbwing but that might have just been the phantom.

Pretty sure it WASN'T pcbwing, but I can't remember now who it was. Komar would know for sure. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 20 March 2015, 10:40:47
pcbcart
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Fri, 20 March 2015, 10:41:22
Someone just asked me where these PCBs were made and I am completely blanking on this.  Who did we use to actually get the PCBs printed?

I know it was in China but that probably isn't specific enough, my searchfu is weak this morning. I wanna say maybe pcbwing but that might have just been the phantom.

Pretty sure it WASN'T pcbwing, but I can't remember now who it was. Komar would know for sure. :)

No worries.  He was asking who we use for PCB printing.  I pointed him to OshPark since his job is pretty small...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Fri, 20 March 2015, 10:43:05
pcbcart

Thanks dude.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: chel- on Fri, 20 March 2015, 21:54:14
Is TJ only doing US? Komars shipping to CA as well for international?

This is what I'm wondering too. I need to change my address.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 23 March 2015, 13:47:59
Is TJ only doing US? Komars shipping to CA as well for international?

Our original settlements were: TJ - US + Canada, myself - rest of the world
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 25 March 2015, 10:02:09
(https://i.imgflip.com/jax0g.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 25 March 2015, 10:40:53
Show Image
(https://i.imgflip.com/jax0g.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/NkAsxF1.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 25 March 2015, 22:17:42
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/013/677/aubrey-plaza.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 26 March 2015, 18:15:30
(http://i.imgur.com/S25EO.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 26 March 2015, 18:20:53
Komar007, any updates on this or ETA once stabs arrive? I have every part bar the PCB now!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 28 March 2015, 20:10:00
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/278de27dfa240d84005090709ac7e0d0/tumblr_mkro4266uw1qfr6udo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: fydo on Mon, 30 March 2015, 10:24:19
Hi there! I'm moving to a new place on May 1st (same city, so shipping costs are the same) who should I send my updated address to? Unless of course shipping is happening very soon and I'll get my stuff before May 1... :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 30 March 2015, 15:34:38
fydo, tjcaustin is dealing with US+Canada, so I'd suggest sending him the updated info.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 30 March 2015, 15:50:13
Komar007, any updates on this or ETA once stabs arrive? I have every part bar the PCB now!

Can't tell you the ETA from then, but when I get the stabs and plates, I'll do my best to organize it fast;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 30 March 2015, 20:13:33
Komar007, any updates on this or ETA once stabs arrive? I have every part bar the PCB now!

Can't tell you the ETA from then, but when I get the stabs and plates, I'll do my best to organize it fast;)

thanks man cant wait
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: RickyJ on Mon, 30 March 2015, 21:19:05
Hi there! I'm moving to a new place on May 1st (same city, so shipping costs are the same) who should I send my updated address to? Unless of course shipping is happening very soon and I'll get my stuff before May 1... :)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit?usp=sharing

Check your order here.

http://goo.gl/forms/koFeGiUzL1

Notate any errors here.

This is what I used to change my address.  I don't know if I'm supposed to get a confirmation somehow though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 01 April 2015, 02:15:52
Stabs were shipped via Pony Express?

And for the love of all that is holy, do not April Fools us with the idea that you've shipped everyone's orders.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 01 April 2015, 10:46:19
Stabs were shipped via Pony Express?

And for the love of all that is holy, do not April Fools us with the idea that you've shipped everyone's orders.

I had thought about this but I do think the delay is a bit too touchy of a subject for April Fools.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: swill on Wed, 01 April 2015, 10:57:35
Stabs were shipped via Pony Express?

And for the love of all that is holy, do not April Fools us with the idea that you've shipped everyone's orders.

I had thought about this but I do think the delay is a bit too touchy of a subject for April Fools.

Haha, I even typed up a response to him saying "You haven't gotten your shipping notice?  I got mine last week.", but I also thought it would be a bit too much of a touchy subject to pull the April 1st stuff on.  :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: duq on Wed, 01 April 2015, 15:41:41
Sent PMs to update my shipping address. Moving again, for the third time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 02 April 2015, 03:14:37
Stabs were shipped via Pony Express?

And for the love of all that is holy, do not April Fools us with the idea that you've shipped everyone's orders.

I had thought about this but I do think the delay is a bit too touchy of a subject for April Fools.

Haha, I even typed up a response to him saying "You haven't gotten your shipping notice?  I got mine last week.", but I also thought it would be a bit too much of a touchy subject to pull the April 1st stuff on.  :P

As if anyone who received a shipping notice about this group would stay quiet about it. ;)
When shipping starts happening this thread is going to be off the hook!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 02 April 2015, 09:16:07
Oh look another notification about nothing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 02 April 2015, 14:56:31
Thank you for the update, i don't mind the time it is taking just would like to know the group buy hasn't been forgotten about!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 05 April 2015, 16:18:09
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: HannibalChew on Mon, 06 April 2015, 17:15:13
I'll be selling my GH60 when it arrives as i've made the switch to topre. If anyone is interested let me know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 06 April 2015, 22:03:00
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Sure feels that way
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 07 April 2015, 05:38:23
Anyone know who the stabs are being delivered to and does Ivan know if they have been delivered yet?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Fire Brand on Tue, 07 April 2015, 05:43:44
I'll be selling my GH60 when it arrives as i've made the switch to topre. If anyone is interested let me know.
I'm interested sent you a pm bud
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Tue, 07 April 2015, 10:57:06
This is ridiculous.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 April 2015, 10:58:11
Maybe demik's absence is because he's helping TJ get all this sorted out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 07 April 2015, 11:00:47
Maybe demik's absence is because he's helping TJ get all this sorted out.
Don't think he'd want to touch any cherry peasantry
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 07 April 2015, 11:05:28
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Tue, 07 April 2015, 21:57:30
Ivan could probably let us know if the stabs were delivered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 07 April 2015, 22:05:16
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PCB's have been finished for like a year now right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 07 April 2015, 22:23:36
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PCB's have been finished for like a year now right?

And the plates and stabs should be at least to TJ by now, yet we continue to get no updates and no timeline for when things will happen.

I feel like I've been *****y about a lot of stuff of late, but it feels like there's just been so much bull**** needing to be called out.  This is by far the biggest bit of bull****.  At this point, TJ took my money about two years ago.  People were all over Sprit when he gave more updates and most people hadn't even waited a year.  Hell, even Toxic is practically done (aside from the USB cables) and that suffered through silence and the US distributor practically going AWOL. 

I just want my investment in this to be treated with respect.  And with no updates since November of last year, I'm feeling pretty disrespected.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 07 April 2015, 22:29:04
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PCB's have been finished for like a year now right?

And the plates and stabs should be at least to TJ by now, yet we continue to get no updates and no timeline for when things will happen.

I feel like I've been *****y about a lot of stuff of late, but it feels like there's just been so much bull**** needing to be called out.  This is by far the biggest bit of bull****.  At this point, TJ took my money about two years ago.  People were all over Sprit when he gave more updates and most people hadn't even waited a year.  Hell, even Toxic is practically done (aside from the USB cables) and that suffered through silence and the US distributor practically going AWOL. 

I just want my investment in this to be treated with respect.  And with no updates since November of last year, I'm feeling pretty disrespected.

Totally agree, if it was me I'd be jumping up and down like crazy.

I've noticed TJ has no problem posting in other threads so it's pretty BS that he just ignores this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 07 April 2015, 22:38:32
Well, I thought I was helping this project along... Sorry I couldn't do more dudes!!!

Maybe by XMas??? :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 07 April 2015, 22:50:55
Well, I thought I was helping this project along... Sorry I couldn't do more dudes!!!

Maybe by XMas??? :/

You do what you can, but you're not the leader or the one with everything on hand.

As for Christmas, right now it's been 680 days since I've paid.  Christmas would be 942 days, which is just shy of 2 years and 7 months.  Unless you're a government or military contractor, a year and a half project overrun on a year long project (or, from the OP, a three to six month project from payment date with a 2 year plus overrun) is beyond unacceptable, especially when there are no updates ever in this thread.

I just want an update with a timeline instead of absolute silence and, the few times anything has actually been said, getting fed the same bull**** over and over.  I'm sure others are in the same boat, but they just aren't willing to pipe up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 08 April 2015, 00:25:02
Were pics of the received parts ever posted?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 08 April 2015, 00:52:50
Were pics of the received parts ever posted?
of the plates but I think that was it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Wed, 08 April 2015, 12:54:28
I do hope we don't need another take over of the group buy
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 08 April 2015, 18:48:23
Even isis gives proof of life of their hostages. For all we know the pcbs have been left in extreme temperatures and dampness. Give this a few more weeks and I'm pretty sure people will start calling this a scam
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: billnye on Wed, 08 April 2015, 18:51:47
Well, I thought I was helping this project along... Sorry I couldn't do more dudes!!!

Maybe by XMas??? :/
<3
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 08 April 2015, 18:55:10
Well, I thought I was helping this project along... Sorry I couldn't do more dudes!!!

Maybe by XMas??? :/

What year? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 08 April 2015, 18:58:09
Maybe he should just pack it all up and ship it to somebody trustworthy?  I'm not even in this, and I'd pitch in a few bucks for that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:11:27
Maybe he should just pack it all up and ship it to somebody trustworthy?  I'm not even in this, and I'd pitch in a few bucks for that.

its not that simple

the real bulk of the work isnt jsut shipping this stuff out, its all the smd and build work

its a huge and daunting thing to organise, let alone start

im sure now all the parts are coming together, TJ will be working out how he is gonna attack this, and once he is ready will finally update here

i think people should take a step back, and realise the environment they are creating here, and how hard it must be for TJ to come in to it and post the updates everyone wants

its pretty clear that all the parts are either on hand now, or about to be, this is when the clocks starts, give the man a chance to get this together, and judge him from this point forward
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:18:39
As someone that does large scale buys... this should really be in the pack order and send them out stage. They have had LOADS of time to do any assembly stuff while waiting for parts that were not essential to doing so.
Even if they for whatever reason have not done assembly... those who don't need/want it sure as **** shouldn't have to continue waiting for that. For those that requested assembly, if more time is needed then they should go last.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:23:12
As someone that does large scale buys... this should really be in the pack order and send them out stage. They have had LOADS of time to do any assembly stuff while waiting for parts that were not essential to doing so.
Even if they for whatever reason have not done assembly... those who don't need/want it sure as **** shouldn't have to continue waiting for that. For those that requested assembly, if more time is needed then they should go last.

and that may have been your method, but its not in your hands, everyone has their own way of doing things, and at this point we dont know what tj's is, whether he was waiting to get everything together so he could start, or if tons of prep has been going on behind the scenes, all im saying is, all the snidy back handed comments and **** arent gonna help the situation, the same people who want updates are making it an environment that isnt conducive to getting them

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:32:07
So I need to make an update when I have nothing to update, but not a bull**** update?

Also, I'm untrustworthy even though I've never made an attempt to hide or be out of contact, a scammer, and the GH version of ISIS?  (When is ISIS going to get its Godwin's law, I wonder?)

I got stabs a couple days after lysol said he mailed them to me.  Considering a few other factors that aren't anyone's problem here, I didn't feel the need to tell you that "yep, lysol did ship me stab bars".  Especially since I didn't have anything new to say otherwise.  I don't have a timeline because I'm busy and have no clue how long the steps I need to take will take because this level and complexity of fulfillment is completely foreign to me.

All that said, thank the majority of you for being patient and understanding.  This has been a cluster**** since day one and no one deserves that.

As someone that does large scale buys... this should really be in the pack order and send them out stage. They have had LOADS of time to do any assembly stuff while waiting for parts that were not essential to doing so.
Even if they for whatever reason have not done assembly... those who don't need/want it sure as **** shouldn't have to continue waiting for that. For those that requested assembly, if more time is needed then they should go last.

Keycap buys are not gh60 buys.  I have learned this from trying to get my **** together and packed.  This is like if you had to not only organize every cap order for dolch out of 102 different unlabeled bags while letting people decide what profile they want each keyrow to be.  Even when I had to hand sort CCnG, it wasn't this complex.  And I'm not even talking about the build orders, which will, and have always been planned to, go out last.
Title: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:32:26
Maybe he should just pack it all up and ship it to somebody trustworthy?  I'm not even in this, and I'd pitch in a few bucks for that.

I didn't mean to imply by my post that anyone isn't trustworthy, was just trying to get this moving forward.  Sorry if it came across as snide or mean.

And what Bunny said is true. It's not like the torches and pitchforks is actually encouraging TJ, et al., to post updates and be engaged.

Edit: Lol he posted as I was writing mine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:35:00
hahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:38:21
TJ, are you saying you haven't even planned anything in the months that have passed because you didn't have all the parts on hand? And because you were busy?
Why didn't you just try to recruit someone else to help or deal with this cluster **** if you are too busy? I mean aren't we talking about over a hundred people waiting for their stuff? If not more?

Edit: And who the hell says that we should take it easy on somebody just because they are helping out? If you decide to take on the task then you take on the responsibility too. Don't try to shirk that responsibility just because you weren't the original person to put it together.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:48:50
Sure it's complex... and it's a big project. But if you don't start getting it done it's not ever going to get done. This is what is making people upset.
If you need a crew to get it done, then get one together. Otherwise if doing it solo using time wisely and shipping in waves is something I have come to see as paramount. Otherwise I would just feel overwhelmed looking at a big pile of stuff that needs done and demotivate myself. Some people will have to wait longer than others to get their orders, and that is just the breaks. I think people would be happy to see that things are moving, and being shipped even if it's not their own order. At least it would be known progress is being made.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: hellerbarde on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:57:24
Edit: And who the hell says that we should take it easy on somebody just because they are helping out? If you decide to take on the task then you take on the responsibility too. Don't try to shirk that responsibility just because you weren't the original person to put it together.
Because they are doing it for free, if I understand this correctly. Also, sometimes a task can seem easy or trivial in the situation you take it on, but sometimes (most times, actually), Lifetm happens. And then everybody gets f'd over.

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All that said, thank the majority of you for being patient and understanding.  This has been a cluster**** since day one and no one deserves that.
Hey TJ! Thanks, man!  :thumb: It's great that you took this over. I've been waiting along with everybody else and I'm glad that someone took this over instead of just letting it die. :-*

And absurdly, yeah, actually it might be worth making updates even if you don't have a lot of concrete news.  :cool: Just to reassure people that this GB is being worked on. As I said above, life happens. man...

Rock on!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 08 April 2015, 20:04:36
 
TJ, are you saying you haven't even planned anything in the months that have passed because you didn't have all the parts on hand? And because you were busy?
Why didn't you just try to recruit someone else to help or deal with this cluster **** if you are too busy? I mean aren't we talking about over a hundred people waiting for their stuff? If not more?

Edit: And who the hell says that we should take it easy on somebody just because they are helping out? If you decide to take on the task then you take on the responsibility too. Don't try to shirk that responsibility just because you weren't the original person to put it together.

No, that's not what I'm saying.  I'm saying I've been busy so I don't know how long my plan will take to come to completion save "a while".  Also, the help I need has to be local.  I don't know any GHer that's really local enough to me and I don't have the funds or space to put anyone up while they help either. 

I'm not trying , nor does it sound like anyone else is telling me, to shirk responsibility.  But I am a volunteer, have done somewhat similar activities for the hack before successfully and hoped that I would have the karma/good will/whatever to be trusted to see this through, regardless of the time frame.  Especially since I had no control over most of the current delays like the PCB not being ready to print when the ordering was closed, wfd disappearing and not telling us where he was getting plates and stabilizers from, komar working on his dissertation and gmk sending us the wrong stabilizer bars. 

Sure it's complex... and it's a big project. But if you don't start getting it done it's not ever going to get done. This is what is making people upset.
If you need a crew to get it done, then get one together. Otherwise if doing it solo using time wisely and shipping in waves is something I have come to see as paramount. Otherwise I would just feel overwhelmed looking at a big pile of stuff that needs done and demotivate myself. Some people will have to wait longer than others to get their orders, and that is just the breaks. I think people would be happy to see that things are moving, and being shipped even if it's not their own order. At least it would be known progress is being made.

I'm not saying it's just sitting either.  I just have not much time to work on orders and even less space to let things sit where I can easily start/stop sorting. It makes my skin itch to tell someone that ordered stabs, plates and whatever else has held things up since PCBs were finished that they have to wait longer because they one stop shopped.  It feels like I'm punishing them for taking full advantage of the buy options.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 08 April 2015, 20:08:11
Edit: And who the hell says that we should take it easy on somebody just because they are helping out? If you decide to take on the task then you take on the responsibility too. Don't try to shirk that responsibility just because you weren't the original person to put it together.

With that attitude, the whole buy would have died a year ago.  Maybe you'd prefer that, but I sure wouldn't.  Yes, TJ does have responsibilities to us, but we have a responsibility to him as well.  He bailed us all out of this mess and we owe him a little respect.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 08 April 2015, 20:17:59
I usually regret most of the posts I put into this thread, and they are almost always done from tapatalk where I'm being **** on in life like plane connections. But apparently a couple hours ago I just happened to equate tj to ISIS and that is just too hilarious to apologize for,  wow
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 08 April 2015, 20:20:22
I usually regret most of the posts I put into this thread, and they are almost always done from tapatalk where I'm being **** on in life like plane connections. But apparently a couple hours ago I just happened to equate tj to ISIS and that is just too hilarious to apologize for,  wow

It is pretty funny.  Especially imagining filming me cutting the top portion of a pcb off after yelling about things in a foreign language for 10 min.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 08 April 2015, 20:21:23
Would have been great for April fools haha
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 08 April 2015, 20:21:25
First off TJ, I'm going to say you got handed a **** job.  I respect you for undertaking it.  That said, there are still responsibilities associated with handling it and things that could have been done throughout.

So I need to make an update when I have nothing to update, but not a bull**** update?

A not bull**** update would be status of packaging, assembly for those who went plateless, pictures, or any other thing to let people know that there has been some sort of progress.  People have been asking for months about where things stand.  People have also asked about paying additional shipping to have their stabs shipped later or even forfeiting the money they paid for the stabs and just having their PCB and plate shipped out.  Those requests got brushed off or ignored.  When stabs arrived, there could have been an update.  There are many things that could have been done to help the disenfranchised instead of bull**** updates that don't help people know the status of anything.  If people were kept apprised of the status and if concerns were listened to, people wouldn't be so upset with how this has been handled.

I mentioned sprit because he practically went AWOL for a while with that cluster****, but he has been forthcoming and communicative, letting people know where things stand.  He recovered it from the precipice.  That's all we're asking you to do.

I got stabs a couple days after lysol said he mailed them to me.  Considering a few other factors that aren't anyone's problem here, I didn't feel the need to tell you that "yep, lysol did ship me stab bars".  Especially since I didn't have anything new to say otherwise.  I don't have a timeline because I'm busy and have no clue how long the steps I need to take will take because this level and complexity of fulfillment is completely foreign to me.

The emboldened part has been the problem throughout this whole buy.  Openness and communication are how you keep a restless group placated.  If there are eruptions brewing, it's because you "didn't feel the need" to communicate anything with people.  It would have been nice to hear that the stabs arrived.

And since you have no clue about the steps, have you actually done anything at all yet or is everything still sitting in unsorted piles?  That's another update you can give.  I know people would have gladly helped, and probably would still gladly help, you with sorting and organizing people's orders and prepping them from stabs.


Keycap buys are not gh60 buys.  I have learned this from trying to get my **** together and packed.  This is like if you had to not only organize every cap order for dolch out of 102 different unlabeled bags while letting people decide what profile they want each keyrow to be.  Even when I had to hand sort CCnG, it wasn't this complex.  And I'm not even talking about the build orders, which will, and have always been planned to, go out last.

That sounds exactly like the logistics of my UV Printed GB.  Each cap was a different profile, a different color, and a different design.  It was a massive PITA to do, sort, and ship but I shipped all the correct orders done in a weekend and resolved the mistakes as I ran into them.  You just have to put your head down, set deadlines or goals for yourself while breaking down into smaller chunks, and you can get it done in a reasonable time frame.

Like I said, I respect the work you're doing, but this has all been about a total breakdown of communication which feels disrespectful to me as someone who invested in this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: RickyJ on Wed, 08 April 2015, 20:35:16
Thanks again to TJ for taking on this staggeringly large task!

Just to clarify, the PCB's are already pre-populated with SMD from the PCB house, correct?  I sure hope that TJ doesn't have to populate them himself!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 08 April 2015, 20:38:23
Yo!!! If you get all the parts you need for the builds and shipp me everything else, I'll sort it and start shipping those.

Is that the best way of doing it... prolly not, but it's all I got for (****) ideas ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 09 April 2015, 00:56:08
Isn't this exactly why waiting until all parts were on hand to start work was a bad idea? Weren't there orders whose combination of parts were all on hand and thus could have started being shipped months ago so that the current load was reduced?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 09 April 2015, 01:01:45
I'll be selling my GH60 when it arrives as i've made the switch to topre. If anyone is interested let me know.
Yes please.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 09 April 2015, 03:06:20
Sheesh..

First of all - sorry to anyone who receives a notification of a new post in this thread. My post is not the update you're probably frothing for.

Secondly... I am reluctant to comment on the negative attitude in this thread because I don't think it deserves any more attention. It's not helpful or encouraging to anyone.

Although it's been a long wait, I'm glad there's still a pulse. Thanks guys!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Polymer on Thu, 09 April 2015, 08:47:17
I think first off, people have to remember TJ volunteered his time....

But I do agree..updates, even ones that don't say much, are better than nothing and that should satisfy most...

BUT that also means, people have to STFU when the update is not something major.  Jumping on top of someone who has volunteered their time isn't getting you anywhere and is only going to drive that person away.  That includes if the update is - "nothing new today". 

I understand, people have money invested in stuff...but honestly, at least it looks like you might get your stuff at some point in the future...Seeing as this community has had so many senior members turned thieves that's not a bad result...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 09 April 2015, 09:01:21
Ignoring everything that has happened to bring this Group Buy to its current state and starting fresh from today, what's the plan? It's my understanding that everything is on hand now. Let's just put all the cards on the table. How many total orders are there? What's your plan of attack? How many orders do you think you can do each time you have the ability to work on this? When do you think you can get the time and space to start? If you don't feel you can handle it all what do you need to assist you?

No negativity allowed. No attacking allowed. Let's all deal with the facts of the situation and move forward.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 09 April 2015, 13:11:01
Sorry TJ i hope this wasn't me that blew this up, have to say that I really appreciate you picking this up as it would have been a tragic gb. I was only hoping for a small update to know the gb is moving along, we don't get much in here so any information is useful. Personally signed my last lease on the property im in and with 4 months left i'm worried i'll have moved before it gets here!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: duq on Thu, 09 April 2015, 15:29:13
Yo TJ! Did you get my PM?

I usually regret most of the posts I put into this thread, and they are almost always done from tapatalk where I'm being **** on in life like plane connections. But apparently a couple hours ago I just happened to equate tj to ISIS and that is just too hilarious to apologize for,  wow

It is pretty funny.  Especially imagining filming me cutting the top portion of a pcb off after yelling about things in a foreign language for 10 min.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 09 April 2015, 15:36:56
Yo TJ! Did you get my PM?

I usually regret most of the posts I put into this thread, and they are almost always done from tapatalk where I'm being **** on in life like plane connections. But apparently a couple hours ago I just happened to equate tj to ISIS and that is just too hilarious to apologize for,  wow

It is pretty funny.  Especially imagining filming me cutting the top portion of a pcb off after yelling about things in a foreign language for 10 min.

Ya
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 10 April 2015, 18:28:08
TJ, since you have confirmed that you have everything, can you take some pictures and give some plan of attack for distribution?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:39:51
nubbinator, just read his reply to me, and I'm pretty sure you'll get the gist as to what kind of "plan" is in place.

It will be done when TJ can get around to it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:43:25
nubbinator, just read his reply to me, and I'm pretty sure you'll get the gist as to what kind of "plan" is in place.

It will be done when TJ can get around to it.

In other words, a continuance of:

I didn't feel the need to tell you


Also, why the hell are people apologizing for the mini-explosion when people are just asking to have their investment treated with respect and be given an update?  An update with some sort of plan of attack, even if it's in the formative stages, is not hard to do and would be appreciated over total silence.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:33:20
The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.
Title: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjweir on Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:43:14
Looking to sell my 2 gh60s when they arrive.

If any Canadian is looking to pick one up, PM me.

Update: both gh60s have interested parties. 
Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Zeroo on Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:50:24
Looking to sell my 2 gh60s when they arrive.

If any Canadian is looking to pick one up, PM me.

Not from Canada, but might be interested in 1 if SMD is presoldered
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Prelim on Sat, 11 April 2015, 18:44:53
Looking to sell my 2 gh60s when they arrive.

If any Canadian is looking to pick one up, PM me.

pm'ed!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 12 April 2015, 01:43:15
Also, why the hell are people apologizing for the mini-explosion when people are just asking to have their investment treated with respect and be given an update?  An update with some sort of plan of attack, even if it's in the formative stages, is not hard to do and would be appreciated over total silence.

Asking for an update is fine..asking for pictures is disrespectful IMO...it is a sign you don't trust him.

And fair enough, you invested in this GB..but the people you should be treating poorly are the ones that disappeared...

I'm not saying there isn't room for improvement as far as handling a GB..even as a volunteer..but for all the people complaining, will you be volunteering the next time one of these goes pear shaped?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 12 April 2015, 02:20:03
Asking for an update is fine..asking for pictures is disrespectful IMO...it is a sign you don't trust him.

It's asking to see the status of the buy.  And, based upon comments, some people don't trust him at this point.  Posting pics would assuage some of those feelings.  There is nothing disrespectful about asking to have concerns addressed.

And, to be frank, I find it funny to label legitimate questions and concerns as disrespectful when the people who put their money into the buy haven't been respected throughout the buy.  People have been politely asking for updates on the buy for about a year and a half now, if not longer.  The questions rarely get answered and, when updates are given, there's usually an explosion by one of the organizers berating people instead of giving actual updates.  That kind of behavior doesn't encourage people.


And fair enough, you invested in this GB..but the people you should be treating poorly are the ones that disappeared...

I'm not saying there isn't room for improvement as far as handling a GB..even as a volunteer..but for all the people complaining, will you be volunteering the next time one of these goes pear shaped?

The ones who disappeared have already been demonized.  There are threads dedicated to them and how they ripped people off.  All that's happening here is a group of frustrated people wanting regular updates and to be treated with respect.  I guarantee you things would get quieter in here if there were updates showing where things stand and where shipping is at.

And yes, TJ stepped up into a rough position.  People have already pointed that out, but don't make it seem like he's a martyr. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 12 April 2015, 05:46:15
It's asking to see the status of the buy.  And, based upon comments, some people don't trust him at this point.  Posting pics would assuage some of those feelings.  There is nothing disrespectful about asking to have concerns addressed.
Again, asking for updates is fair.  Suggesting he might be ripping people off isn't.  He could as well rip people off..pictures aren't going to change that.  If his intent was to take off it doesn't matter what pictures are there, what is said, what is done...
And, to be frank, I find it funny to label legitimate questions and concerns as disrespectful when the people who put their money into the buy haven't been respected throughout the buy.  People have been politely asking for updates on the buy for about a year and a half now, if not longer.  The questions rarely get answered and, when updates are given, there's usually an explosion by one of the organizers berating people instead of giving actual updates.  That kind of behavior doesn't encourage people.
Nothing is disrespectful with asking for an update.  Are they all politely asking?  Nope...are they picking on every little thing?  Yeap...is it because they're frustrated?  Of course they are...but their anger is being directed at the wrong person.  Of course, I'm not saying this is being handled as well as it could...there are obvious things that could be done better..but this isn't the person benefiting from the GB..this is someone coming in to try to salvage it....I hold the person running the GB, who has gained benefit from it, to a higher standard than I would the person trying to put it together.  More than that person could chew?  Probably...but does it look like that person is trying to take off with people's stuff?  No way..nothing in the slightest would indicate that..easily they can just disappear into the ether like the many other thieves this site has produced.  So the suggestion is to stop suggesting that might be the case..

The ones who disappeared have already been demonized.  There are threads dedicated to them and how they ripped people off.  All that's happening here is a group of frustrated people wanting regular updates and to be treated with respect.  I guarantee you things would get quieter in here if there were updates showing where things stand and where shipping is at.

And yes, TJ stepped up into a rough position.  People have already pointed that out, but don't make it seem like he's a martyr.

I agree with you 100%.  There are many ways that would completely help out the situation...many ways that this could be handled far better and I have said that already...but am I going to blame the volunteer for this?  It really is hard to.  Again, I'm assuming you'll step up the next time something like this happens or one of the many concerned parties here will do so....I'm not doubting whether or not you could do a better job..but are you going to volunteer your time?  I wouldn't..it just wouldn't be worth my time....

Along with the appreciation for someone actually volunteering should be a good deal of slack and understanding...I'm sure the definition of that is different for everyone but certainly the level of distrust is not justified...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 12 April 2015, 09:04:17
Being a volunteer doesn't change the fact that there have been months to already set up a plan of action, and it doesn't seem like there is a full plan as of yet. And yes if I was in the states I would've taken over the buy or tried to help as much as possible. I wouldn't do it for nothing seeing as it wasn't my original GB, but I would do what I could. I would separate the parts of the buy that didn't have stabs, the parts that could be shipped now, and I would slowly package one of those a day and ship them out at the end of the week.
Then I would start figuring out how much space I could spare for some packages and when I should start packing the most stackable ones. I would then be ready to ship out some packages the day I got the stabs on hand.

And that idea was just what I thought of while replying now. If I had months to prepare I would have a whole lot better of an idea as to what I would need and who I would need to ask if I needed help.

Spend one hour less on the forum a day and suddenly you have one hour more to spend on doing something else.

But hey, he's a volunteer. Cut him some more slack :).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ninjadoc on Sun, 12 April 2015, 09:52:51
I know we are all annoyed about this group buy. There is something constructive that we can all do though. Look back at your order and see if you ordered assembley. I know I did but two years ago I couldn't solder two wires together and couldn't come close to soldering my own PCB. Lookiing at the intial description the SMD's  and controller were presoldered. If you can solder switches, 1 through hole resistor and LED - cancel your assembley. That will make this a less daunting task and will possibly allow all of us to get our boards sooner. I know assembley was $25 but does anyone here think TJ is seeing that cash? I doubt it and at this point I don't care.

The other option is get someone local to solder your order - some of them might even volunteer to do it if it got the ball rolling. I'm not god's gift to soldering by any stretch of the imagination but I would solder some in Cincinnati if necessary.

That is only my opinion and I'm certtainly not going to go through 150 pages of this thread to see if any of what I said was wrong. Let the discussion begin.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 12 April 2015, 13:37:00
Being a volunteer doesn't change the fact that there have been months to already set up a plan of action, and it doesn't seem like there is a full plan as of yet. And yes if I was in the states I would've taken over the buy or tried to help as much as possible. I wouldn't do it for nothing seeing as it wasn't my original GB, but I would do what I could. I would separate the parts of the buy that didn't have stabs, the parts that could be shipped now, and I would slowly package one of those a day and ship them out at the end of the week.
Then I would start figuring out how much space I could spare for some packages and when I should start packing the most stackable ones. I would then be ready to ship out some packages the day I got the stabs on hand.

And that idea was just what I thought of while replying now. If I had months to prepare I would have a whole lot better of an idea as to what I would need and who I would need to ask if I needed help.

I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying....You should plan it out..you'll save yourself time..it'll go smoother...
Is it really that hard to do?  No..it really isn't...but would I do it?  Nope...just not worth it for me to spend that time...Would I want updates? Sure...do I think it is inappropriate to treat the volunteer with distrust?  No..not at all...

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 14 April 2015, 13:19:02
I have not thrown out any posts about status in here yet. but could you at least ship the European parts to komar so he can start?

I am in the US and this doesn't help me get mine any faster. but it might help you obtain more space to sort.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 14 April 2015, 16:11:08
I think the problem really is TJ just doesn't have the time as he mentions so unless we find someone to help in the US that is nearby and TJ is willing to let this happen the GB won't move for however long. This makes me sad but he is holding all the cards so all we can do is beg for updates (I do actually check this thread on a daily basis in hope)!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Sat, 18 April 2015, 21:13:35
(http://s.likes-media.com/img/434dd676201bb7248f9817c1e761719e.600x.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 18 April 2015, 21:17:18
Show Image
(http://s.likes-media.com/img/434dd676201bb7248f9817c1e761719e.600x.jpg)


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqh93tHtCE1r0eszxo1_500.gif)

Like will actually get an update on this.  At this point I feel like taking bets on when, if ever, we'll get this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: metafour on Sat, 18 April 2015, 21:20:46
I have faith
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 19 April 2015, 04:46:21
could you at least ship the European parts to komar so he can start?

^This.  If you (TJ) aren't in a position to individually box up all the US orders for whatever reason then at the very least please just put all the EU stuff in one big box and get it to komar so that he can get on with his job - surely that's not too difficult is it?  Especially since you now have everything on hand...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 19 April 2015, 11:00:01
The last I talked to komar, he was in a worse position in terms of time than I am.  I've been waiting for a list of what he needs in terms of plates and stabs (he has the rest already) for a while now.  He's been working on his thesis, the last I heard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 20 April 2015, 20:26:58
The last I talked to komar, he was in a worse position in terms of time than I am.  I've been waiting for a list of what he needs in terms of plates and stabs (he has the rest already) for a while now.  He's been working on his thesis, the last I heard.

Thanks sir.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nebo on Thu, 23 April 2015, 13:04:52
Not to get too ambition here, but are any cases still around for this?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 23 April 2015, 16:45:44
You can buy a slim case from pexon (pexonpcs.co.uk).

Komar, can you confirm TJ's comments? Not that it helps but i'm sure there are plenty of us EU folk that are willing to help out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: battletux on Sat, 25 April 2015, 04:23:03
So have the stabs arrived yet? Are we just waiting on the orders being sorted and shipped now?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 25 April 2015, 07:17:22
Everything has arrived at TJ's, they currently don't have the time to deal with it, so we have to wait indefinitely until they do (I assume)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 25 April 2015, 14:05:51
Everything has arrived at TJ's, they currently don't have the time to deal with it, so we have to wait indefinitely until they do (I assume)

Summary of how things have gone with the buy:

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/41613/baby-pee-o.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: battletux on Sat, 25 April 2015, 15:40:57

Summary of how things have gone with the buy:

Show Image
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/41613/baby-pee-o.gif)


Quite possibly the funniest gif I have ever seen.

I stilol have no Idea why the didn't ship any orders that could have been shipped earlier. Instead of waiting on 1 item that has hung the whole GB. It's taken so long that I'm debating just selling my stuff once it comes in and getting something else entirely.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 27 April 2015, 09:37:32
found this today: http://www.offerany.com/p-40858289145.html

What GH60 pcb is this?! Is it even legit?  :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 27 April 2015, 09:43:33
found this today: http://www.offerany.com/p-40858289145.html

What GH60 pcb is this?! Is it even legit?  :eek: :eek:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66624.0

It's called GH60 Rev.CHN -- a fork of the GH60 Rev.B open source PCB.


So nice of them to steal WFD's renders, though.  :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 27 April 2015, 09:49:37
idd, rip-off arseholes  :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 27 April 2015, 09:49:43
I think the title needs to be updated since the stabilizers have arrived.

And TJ, can we please get some plan of attack and/or timeline?  If you're swamped, how about a sorting day and see if some more local GHers could help?  I know I would if I were in Texas still.  Right now it only seems like updates come when there's an explosion snd, even then, there aren't always updates.

idd, rip-off arseholes  :(

It does suck, but I don't feel horrible about it given that WFD ripped off a few people here before disappearing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 April 2015, 09:51:05
found this today: http://www.offerany.com/p-40858289145.html (http://www.offerany.com/p-40858289145.html)

What GH60 pcb is this?! Is it even legit?  :o :o

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66624.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66624.0)

It's called GH60 Rev.CHN -- a fork of the GH60 Rev.B open source PCB.


So nice of them to steal WFD's renders, though.  :(


Could it be programmed álá FaceW?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: genkidama on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:35:50
I was wondering is this GH60 PCB.revB the final layout? Or is there another rev around?
Is it possible to see the changes and how this looks?
And is it possible or allowed to use these designs for my own purpose? As I can etch them at work (I dunno if this is the correct term here). I'm thinking of trying to create my own 60% board from ground up and learn soldering, wiring, putting switches on and stuff like that. And BlueBär recommended me this PCB design for my project.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:54:49
Rev. C is the final and word is it isn't being released until after the GH60 GB ends.



In other words, don't expect to be able to do anything with it until 2020.  You're better off seeing if you could do a run of the FaceW/FaceU or Hasu's Alps board he just did.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 27 April 2015, 12:44:56
Got a link?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 27 April 2015, 12:50:15
Got a link?
I've got lots of links. What were you looking for specifically?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Applet on Mon, 27 April 2015, 14:09:12
I was wondering is this GH60 PCB.revB the final layout? Or is there another rev around?
Is it possible to see the changes and how this looks?
And is it possible or allowed to use these designs for my own purpose? As I can etch them at work (I dunno if this is the correct term here). I'm thinking of trying to create my own 60% board from ground up and learn soldering, wiring, putting switches on and stuff like that. And BlueBär recommended me this PCB design for my project.
The rev. B files works if you don't want to wait for this buy to be completed. I made a rev. B PCB at my university, works great. I got some missing holes in the drill-files in the fabrication outputs that is on komars blog (http://blog.komar.be/projects/gh60-programmable-keyboard/), but otherwise it was fine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: genkidama on Mon, 27 April 2015, 15:32:18
Rev. C is the final and word is it isn't being released until after the GH60 GB ends.

In other words, don't expect to be able to do anything with it until 2020.  You're better off seeing if you could do a run of the FaceW/FaceU or Hasu's Alps board he just did.

Ja man, unfortunately it seems that way. At that time I'll be too old for dis. I'll look into FaceW/FaceU/Hasu PCBs.

I was wondering is this GH60 PCB.revB the final layout? Or is there another rev around?
Is it possible to see the changes and how this looks?
And is it possible or allowed to use these designs for my own purpose? As I can etch them at work (I dunno if this is the correct term here). I'm thinking of trying to create my own 60% board from ground up and learn soldering, wiring, putting switches on and stuff like that. And BlueB�r recommended me this PCB design for my project.
The rev. B files works if you don't want to wait for this buy to be completed. I made a rev. B PCB at my university, works great. I got some missing holes in the drill-files in the fabrication outputs that is on komars blog (http://blog.komar.be/projects/gh60-programmable-keyboard/), but otherwise it was fine.

As I'm fairly new to all this soldering and stuff, whats the main difference between rev.B and rev.C?
Thank you for that link, I'll look into it and get a friend who understands those schematics better than me and can help me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 28 April 2015, 11:27:47
Got a link?
I've got lots of links. What were you looking for specifically?
It was for the FaceW/FaceU board but it seems like they are having issues as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: DanielT on Wed, 29 April 2015, 03:29:07
Got a link?
I've got lots of links. What were you looking for specifically?
It was for the FaceW/FaceU board but it seems like they are having issues as well.
I've had 2 faceU boards and still have a faceW, the only issue I've had is the board not being detected by some BIOS versions but aside that there are no issues. Perfectly working boards, the faceW is one of my favorites. The faceU were chinese knock-offs and even those didn't had any issues aside poor manufacture quality compared to the ones made in Korea, and the boards were still a beauty and worked flawless.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: DanielT on Wed, 29 April 2015, 03:36:55
One more note, if you want to make faceU/faceW PCB's you have to buy to rights to do that from BeastMask the developer of the boards (winkeyless.kr).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bueller on Wed, 29 April 2015, 03:37:12
Rev B. works fine, I'm typing on one right now. If I remember correctly there is a diode somewhere on the board that is back to front but apart from that it's awesome.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Wed, 29 April 2015, 11:52:03
Sorry when I said issues i mean logistical problems. A lot of people waiting on the deskthority thread.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: TheMadcap on Mon, 04 May 2015, 02:11:28
if someone wants drop his Pcb and parts kit I'd gladly have it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 04 May 2015, 02:22:08
if someone wants drop his Pcb and parts kit I'd gladly have it.

Better off finding a PCB elsewhere mate, this could be months away considering how things have been moving.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 04 May 2015, 04:05:18
or lack thereof
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: rtos on Mon, 04 May 2015, 07:28:51
if someone wants drop his Pcb and parts kit I'd gladly have it.

If anyone is interested in taking over my order (1 GH60 PCB, 1 Poker plate, Assembly service, Costar stabilizer set, 63x MX browns) please PM me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 05 May 2015, 13:58:46
So are we ever going to get a plan or timeline?  It's really not much to ask to get a timeline and plan, even if the plan includes asking for help locally.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Prelim on Tue, 05 May 2015, 14:02:47
is the pcb production finished?

I find it very strange not seing even one single photo of the final product here... is this a fake GB?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 05 May 2015, 15:23:21
This is getting a little absurd.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 05 May 2015, 16:26:07
again, everything is finished (apparently) we are waiting for nothing the organizers to have free time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Prelim on Tue, 05 May 2015, 16:29:38
free time to take a single picture with the phone?  :eek: :eek: :eek: (ouch, no one seems to have 10 seconds)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 05 May 2015, 16:30:56
This is getting a little beyond absurd.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: TLExile on Tue, 05 May 2015, 16:39:39
Can't wait
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: TheMadcap on Tue, 05 May 2015, 17:25:15
if someone wants drop his Pcb and parts kit I'd gladly have it.

Better off finding a PCB elsewhere mate, this could be months away considering how things have been moving.

I'm not in hurry either. Would wait for kit with clears.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 05 May 2015, 17:29:39
if someone wants drop his Pcb and parts kit I'd gladly have it.

Better off finding a PCB elsewhere mate, this could be months away considering how things have been moving.

I'm not in hurry either. Would wait for kit with clears.

At this rate it will be another year before you get someone's board.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 08 May 2015, 07:39:03
So are we ever going to get a plan or timeline?  It's really not much to ask to get a timeline and plan, even if the plan includes asking for help locally.

This.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: sth on Fri, 08 May 2015, 09:06:27
maybe it's time everybody request their money back via paypal.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 08 May 2015, 09:06:31
So are we ever going to get a plan or timeline?  It's really not much to ask to get a timeline and plan, even if the plan includes asking for help locally.

Ever? Perchance. Does it really matter at this point? We'll never get our money back, and we'll not get our orders until TJ or whom the **** ever figures out what to do.

What's incredibly frustrating is sitting here realizing that a person has made up excuses for themselves for why it's OK to act this way. It's even more frustrating to know that there are people that support these excuses simply because this is "volunteered" work. Well if you didn't have the time or aren't able to do the work for whatever reason then FIX THE PROBLEM. It's been MONTHS of time passed with no real work done to the group buy.

It would almost be easier to just say "I lost all the stuff, and I'm sorry, but you're not getting your GH60s, switches or stabs. Pay no mind to the classifieds where I'm selling all these things. They are not related". Based on the reasoning of people defending TJ it wouldn't really matter because it wasn't really his group buy to begin with.

So it doesn't really matter if you're frustrated with the buy or if you're fine with it. In the end we all still have to wait and see.

/rant ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 08 May 2015, 09:34:26
Can we at least get the thread title updated?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 08 May 2015, 09:57:30
Can we at least get the thread title updated?

Yeah, it should read GH60 Group Buy - ETA whenever the **** I feel like it, now shut up and don't rock the boat because I "volunteered".

What I want to know is how people can keep defending this when everything has been in hand for a month and, before that, there was a year where prep work or shipping without stabilizers could have happened.  Multiple solutions have been offered and the simple request for photos or a timeline were met with non-answers lashing out against those who would dare question things.   

And watch, since **** is kicking up again, TJ will appear, lash out against people, and continue to not give an answer because we don't deserve one, he doesn't feel like it, or some other BS answer.  All we want is an update and timeline, but apparently that's like asking a politician to be honest.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 08 May 2015, 10:15:22
maybe it's time everybody request their money back via paypal.
Boy... I wish...

Offer still stands, send me the unassemble stuff and I'll package/ship... at least some people will get their **** this millennium

granted it would be slow
but it's something
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 08 May 2015, 13:13:10
Can we at least get a picture?

And then the stuff
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 08 May 2015, 13:31:31
Can we at least get a picture?

And then the stuff

You know **** is bad when Hoff is asking.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 08 May 2015, 13:45:28
Can we at least get a picture?

And then the stuff

You know **** is bad when Hoff is asking.
SkidRow Hoff makes me sad...  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Fri, 08 May 2015, 15:43:48
I am willing to help with EU distribution, so long as i'm not out of pocket. Anything to get this moving.... I have 3 hours a day and weekends after my wedding :) We all want this to move along.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: metafour on Sat, 09 May 2015, 00:46:14
Who has all the money that was paid for shipping?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mr.bean on Sat, 09 May 2015, 02:24:51
Is there any way to get a refund? This GB is total disaster.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dsan on Sat, 09 May 2015, 06:41:41
Wasn't tj collecting money for this GB from the start?
I don't undestand how he volunteered to get this done,maybe I missed something.
This board was supposed to be my first and only custom since I'm a student and I don't have money to spend on more than one keyboard at a time but it's really frustrating to be still waiting for this after 2 years.
I get that people disappearing from GH contributed a lot to the delay but I don't understand how is it possible to keep delaying things because there's no time.
How can someone not be able to log in for 2 minutes in a day to give a status update or to dedicate 1 hour a day to get things going especially since you're holding other people's money..
I may be saying this because I'm a student and I have some free time but I don't find it to be unreasonable to dedicate some of your daily time to this,especially because it's something that people payed for.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 09 May 2015, 07:52:23
Wasn't tj collecting money for this GB from the start?
I don't undestand how he volunteered to get this done,maybe I missed something.

He was originally one of (I believe) four or five people helping with this group buy.  His role was far more minimal than it currently is.  He did collect the money, but was not going to do any shipping, AFAIK (maybe he was going to do some assembly?).  When people talk about him volunteering, it's volunteering to take over every aspect of the group buy (aside from EU-specific tasks).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 09 May 2015, 09:43:04
Okay, let's try this.

I'm available at taking over the GB. For this purpose I would pay at my expenses shipping of all the material from where it is now to my place (please note that I'm from Italy, Europe). I believe (hope) after many years on GH you could call me a "trusted member of the community".

I would expect that money for shipping would be transferred to my paypal account.

I would also appreciate donations to cover the expenses (especially packaging). Donors would be put at the top of the queue, entity of the donation does not matter (ie: bigger donations don't grant you a higher priority).

If anyone requested assembly he/she could: a) give up assembly and get the raw material; b) wait at the end of the queue

As soon as I get the material, I'm also available at handling multiple proxies if other volunteers show up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: John Fourth on Sat, 09 May 2015, 09:50:31
Why not sort some of this out at keycon? I am sure people would be willing to sort and box items? Is anyone near TJ that could bring the materials to keycon?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 09 May 2015, 11:35:29
Why not sort some of this out at keycon? I am sure people would be willing to sort and box items? Is anyone near TJ that could bring the materials to keycon?

I've suggested sorting parties like have been done with group buys in the past.  Nearly every suggestion by people have gone ignored.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 09 May 2015, 15:09:48
I'm happy to donate for someone else to pick this up, something needs to be done to get this sorted, so long as its not another **** up or abandonment!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tradet on Sat, 09 May 2015, 16:39:41
I might also consider donations if Matt3o picks it up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 10 May 2015, 01:23:43
At this point I really want the switches and universal plates I ordered, more then the PCB's because this design has already been out done by GON and many other Korean PCB's.

I am tired of begging.

(http://memecrunch.com/image/4f143bf41861331ec400000d.jpg?w=319)

If and when I receive my parts on my doorstep,  Then that will be a unexpected pleasure.

If these parts have to be sent to italy and extra fees apply then I would be glad to donate to the cause. Just please let this insanity end.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 10 May 2015, 01:30:08
And for some perspective, on the 28th, a hair over two weeks, it will have been two years since I paid.  In other words, this is the longest ****ing group buy ever and there's no end in sight.  I'll gladly donate to someone to get **** going.  Hell, TJ, even if you give up the money you're making on the buy, it's worth the PR at this point since this is killing your reputation since you refuse to give updates or even give people an idea of what's going on.

At this point I'm almost to the point of saying saying that everyone should boycott Mimic Cables and go to Zeal or Pexon instead.  Obviously TJ's other projects are getting in the way of fulfilling his duties here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 10 May 2015, 02:54:16
What I want to know is how people can keep defending this when everything has been in hand for a month and, before that, there was a year where prep work or shipping without stabilizers could have happened.  Multiple solutions have been offered and the simple request for photos or a timeline were met with non-answers lashing out against those who would dare question things.   

Nothing wrong with asking for an update.  Photos suggest you don't trust him..which wouldn't really matter at this point would it?  Photos might make you feel better but they don't mean jack...I'm not saying TJ is faultless...I've repeated several times he could have done a much better job...and maybe others have volunteered to take this off his hands, in which case, his reluctance to then gets ugly...but as some have just done, put up or shut up by taking it over from him...

I will add, if TJ is actually making a profit from the delivery of stuff...as I stated earlier, that is then a BUSINESS and obviously he's held to a much higher standard...

I do think this GB has been a total joke....

I do think it is interesting that this specific community has a huge problem with thieves and a lot of issues around GBs..I'm shocked at how many people are still willing to plonk down money when so many of these have gone severely pear shaped....or how easily they're willing to profit from each other.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 10 May 2015, 03:08:38
Photos do not suggest a lack of trust.  Photos suggest that people want to know how things look and where things stand.  And even if they do suggest a lack of trust for some people, I don't blame them.  This buy has been a joke for over a year now.  People deserve to know where things stand and to know how the PCBs have been kept and look since they've been sitting around for a year.  Photos make people feel better, so there is nothing wrong with asking for them.

And how can you say put up or shut up when dozens of people have offered to handle distribution?  You can't put up if the distributor insists on handling things themselves and doesn't respond to the people offering to take over the distribution and ignoring the proposed solutions.

This was not a not-for-profit group buy.  People were going to make money on it.  TJ took over for the people who were going to handle distribution and collected all the money.   Ergo, TJ is making money off of this buy unless he and the other organizers seriously ****ed up and messed up their calculations of cost.  Of course, he may not be losing some of that profit due to increases in shipping costs due to this taking ****ing forever.  So yeah, he volunteered to take over for WFD and whoever else, but he also is making money off the buy, so the "volunteer" excuse is BS.

It's no wonder that the general feel regarding this GB is this:

(http://media.giphy.com/media/5xtDaroSUO99aCMjnkA/giphy.gif)


This could have been made right a long time ago and a multitude of options for fixing it have been suggested, but none have been listened to.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: feng on Sun, 10 May 2015, 03:47:06
Lost over 3K on Jackass's group buy and spent 600 on this one, what's wrong with people these days. Who's in charge of this group buy anyway? Is WFD still around?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Polymer on Sun, 10 May 2015, 03:56:59
Photos do not suggest a lack of trust.  Photos suggest that people want to know how things look and where things stand.
Of course it does.  Again, I'm not blaming people for wanting them...but do I think that is helping?  Not really..
And how can you say put up or shut up when dozens of people have offered to handle distribution?  You can't put up if the distributor insists on handling things themselves and doesn't respond to the people offering to take over the distribution and ignoring the proposed solutions.
As I said, if you read my post, if people HAVE asked to take it over from him and he's not allowing people to do that yet he doesn't have time, that's rather suspicious.  I don't know at what level people have volunteered but I'm talking at the level of getting all contacts, info, etc, and showing up at TJ's door w/ a Uhaul...
This was not a not-for-profit group buy.  People were going to make money on it.  TJ took over for the people who were going to handle distribution and collected all the money.   Ergo, TJ is making money off of this buy unless he and the other organizers seriously ****ed up and messed up their calculations of cost.  Of course, he may not be losing some of that profit due to increases in shipping costs due to this taking ****ing forever.  So yeah, he volunteered to take over for WFD and whoever else, but he also is making money off the buy, so the "volunteer" excuse is BS.
I've actually said this several times...and this must be news to you since you didn't mention it earlier.  If he's making money on it, he's not a volunteer....Simple...Is he making money on it?  I don't know...Regardless of how the original GB started if he's making money on it...that = Business = high level of accountability.  If he's not that = Volunteer = much lower level of accountability. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 10 May 2015, 05:15:25
Lost over 3K on Jackass's group buy and spent 600 on this one, what's wrong with people these days. Who's in charge of this group buy anyway? Is WFD still around?

No, he's not.  Put that as point one on the many point list on why this was a cluster****.

I'm talking privately to a couple people about taking over. 

The idea of profit from this is news to me as the furthest I was involved in pricing was being told by wfd what to charge.

And then it took a year to order PCBs.  They cost significantly more than expected.

Then, apocalypsemaow found another plate source.  They cost significantly more than expected.

Stabs?  I paid what I charged for half of them.  The other half? Cost more than I even charged for them. 

Shipping prices have changed, too, and not for the better.  On top of the shipping parts needed that weren't included in the cost of shipping per order. 

So yeah, wfd may have had profit worked in when he told me what to charge, but that's a boat that's long sailed away for me.

I'm sorry this isn't your perfect answer, nubbs and I'm sure you'll see it as lashing out but it's what I have, just like every other answer I had was what I had at the time.

Wasn't tj collecting money for this GB from the start?
I don't undestand how he volunteered to get this done,maybe I missed something.

He was originally one of (I believe) four or five people helping with this group buy.  His role was far more minimal than it currently is.  He did collect the money, but was not going to do any shipping, AFAIK (maybe he was going to do some assembly?).  When people talk about him volunteering, it's volunteering to take over every aspect of the group buy (aside from EU-specific tasks).

My role was initially to bill, collect money and give it to komar, wfd and jdcarpe.  Then the last 18 months happened.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 10 May 2015, 05:46:00
That's a much better answer than you've given in a long long time.  And no, I don't see it as lashing out since you're actually giving some information this time.   That said, I'd much prefer an actual plan being laid out, but at least we know now that there are some people who might take it over and actually get it done in a timely fashion.  I'd still much prefer hearing what's going on with the buy and keeping the thread updated instead of how things have been going so far.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sun, 10 May 2015, 07:07:44
TJ if you need more money to get this going i'm sure we can donate
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Sun, 10 May 2015, 07:57:50
And for some perspective, on the 28th, a hair over two weeks, it will have been two years since I paid.  In other words, this is the longest ****ing group buy ever and there's no end in sight.  I'll gladly donate to someone to get **** going.  Hell, TJ, even if you give up the money you're making on the buy, it's worth the PR at this point since this is killing your reputation since you refuse to give updates or even give people an idea of what's going on.

At this point I'm almost to the point of saying saying that everyone should boycott Mimic Cables and go to Zeal or Pexon instead.  Obviously TJ's other projects are getting in the way of fulfilling his duties here.

Wow.

Personally this would be the point where I'd dump everything back to the original people and wash my hands from this mess. Boycott his business? **** geekhack, not worth the trouble. Plus everybody salivates over pexon and zeal's **** already anyway.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 10 May 2015, 10:34:53
Just to put some more fuel on the fire; TJ spends most of his time at home because he works from home.
PLEASE tell me how you don't have time to organize a single thing when you've got the orders right there next to you for months. Just ****ing tell me.

You want to make excuses then you're going to be called out on them.

If money was an issue you should have said something WAY EARLIER.
--

If anybody wants to take over my order let me know.
4PCB (SMD soldered),2x universal plates, 1x cherry plate stabs 7x spacebar wires, 2x plate mounted cherry stabs. 6.25x wires, 2x cherry pcb stabs 6.25x spacebar wires, 65 x browns, 65 x mx greens.
No assembly.
Originally $290,66. Will sell you the order for $260 or white printed hhkb pro 2 (new or like new) .
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: funkymeeba on Sun, 10 May 2015, 11:24:52
Hey guys, what's the difference between 7bit group buys and this one?

I'll actually have my stuff from 7bit 3 years later.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 13:41:39
Hi guys,
sorry for not posting long.
Unfortunately my time constraints are much worse now than they were 2 years ago, when I basically had plenty of time.
I will compile the EU lists TJ mentioned some posts ago (of what has to be shipped to EU) ASAP and send them to him.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 10 May 2015, 14:01:14
Hi guys,
sorry for not posting long.
Unfortunately my time constraints are much worse now than they were 2 years ago, when I basically had plenty of time.
I will compile the EU lists TJ mentioned some posts ago (of what has to be shipped to EU) ASAP and send them to him.

Komar I can handle the EU orders if needed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: komar007 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 14:06:42
Hi guys,
sorry for not posting long.
Unfortunately my time constraints are much worse now than they were 2 years ago, when I basically had plenty of time.
I will compile the EU lists TJ mentioned some posts ago (of what has to be shipped to EU) ASAP and send them to him.

Komar I can handle the EU orders if needed.
Matt3o, your help would be extremely useful, I will PM you soon;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sun, 10 May 2015, 14:23:23
One set at a time I guess... looking for a universal ISO plate if anyone one wants to part with one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 10 May 2015, 22:40:22
Also out. Got a new Jeep, have a lot I want to do with it so I'll sell my GH60 at a loss I guess.

1 GH60
1 ANSI 1.5x (pure shift) plate quantity
1 x cherry (plate-mounted) stabilizer set, 7x spacbar wire
1 MXLOCKP switch
70 MXWHITEP switches

I paid $115 for it all. Letting it go for $95. The $20 is so this trouble is yours.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Mon, 11 May 2015, 02:54:18
Lost over 3K on Jackass's group buy and spent 600 on this one, what's wrong with people these days. Who's in charge of this group buy anyway? Is WFD still around?

No, he's not.  Put that as point one on the many point list on why this was a cluster****.

I'm talking privately to a couple people about taking over. 

The idea of profit from this is news to me as the furthest I was involved in pricing was being told by wfd what to charge.

And then it took a year to order PCBs.  They cost significantly more than expected.

Then, apocalypsemaow found another plate source.  They cost significantly more than expected.

Stabs?  I paid what I charged for half of them.  The other half? Cost more than I even charged for them. 

Shipping prices have changed, too, and not for the better.  On top of the shipping parts needed that weren't included in the cost of shipping per order. 

So yeah, wfd may have had profit worked in when he told me what to charge, but that's a boat that's long sailed away for me.

I'm sorry this isn't your perfect answer, nubbs and I'm sure you'll see it as lashing out but it's what I have, just like every other answer I had was what I had at the time.

Wasn't tj collecting money for this GB from the start?
I don't undestand how he volunteered to get this done,maybe I missed something.

He was originally one of (I believe) four or five people helping with this group buy.  His role was far more minimal than it currently is.  He did collect the money, but was not going to do any shipping, AFAIK (maybe he was going to do some assembly?).  When people talk about him volunteering, it's volunteering to take over every aspect of the group buy (aside from EU-specific tasks).

My role was initially to bill, collect money and give it to komar, wfd and jdcarpe.  Then the last 18 months happened.

i don't care.

you volunteered to pick up the pieces. give me what i ordered or hand over the buy to matt3o as offered at next to no effort on your part.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 11 May 2015, 04:20:00
I'm in contact with the organizers, shipping to me is unfortunately too expensive (they are 25kg huge boxes! and we are in the thousands of $$$). I hope we could find a way.

As far as I understand tjcaustin did not volunteer, he was forced to get the stuff or it would have ended up lost.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: i3oilermaker on Mon, 11 May 2015, 10:38:11
Can I help?  Maybe if if a chunk is sent my way I can start getting some out?  I am very efficient at shipping items and go to the post office every day anyways.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 11 May 2015, 11:37:18
Well lets not get to the insults or de-constructive talk, we just want to get this rollin'. Its evident we need someone in the US to help or do the sorting. Is it 25KG for all the kit or for the stuff going to the EU?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 May 2015, 12:12:18

Can I help?  Maybe if if a chunk is sent my way I can start getting some out?  I am very efficient at shipping items and go to the post office every day anyways.

If this ends up in your hands I would be willing to make the trip down to help sort and ship on a few weekends.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 11 May 2015, 12:13:16

Can I help?  Maybe if if a chunk is sent my way I can start getting some out?  I am very efficient at shipping items and go to the post office every day anyways.

If this ends up in your hands I would be willing to make the trip down to help sort and ship on a few weekends.

I could probably come up and help too.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 11 May 2015, 12:27:17
TJ and I are working out getting the unbuilt orders to me... If you three are down to help sort/ship I wouldn't mind making the drive to Chicago with everything for a weekend...

Surely we could get everything sorted and packed in like 2 days with 4 people... Right???
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 11 May 2015, 12:29:27
If this is all happening in Chicago I can help with sorting/packing (but not shipping!).
Title: .
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 11 May 2015, 16:27:39
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 11 May 2015, 16:35:29
Where is JD? He abandoned his part in this to TJ and then went and made another keyboard. You all bought that, and no one is boycotting his other projects or showing such seething rage at him.

Actually, I never abandoned anything. TJ asked me if he could take over the assemblies and shipping that WFD was supposed to do, and I said that yes, he could. I later expressed to him that I was in a different situation with regard to my work and family life than I was at the beginning of the buy, and at that point TJ offered to take over my part (some assembly and shipping), as well. I expressed several times to TJ that if he didn't feel he could do all of it by himself, he was welcome to recruit others to help.
Title: .
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 11 May 2015, 16:41:02
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 11 May 2015, 16:43:11
Moose, there have been many thanks given already for picking things up.  And believe me when I say people are still annoyed/pissed with others, especially WFD.  Komar has gotten his fair share of talk from European members.   The current anger is because pleas for updates, a timeline, any kind of acknowledgement of where things are and are going have been completely ignored. 

All this backlash could have been avoided by giving updates, even if they were ones no one wanted to hear.

This latest update should help, especially once we hear that something is moving forward.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tbc on Mon, 11 May 2015, 16:44:16
about komar,

i thought he spoke privately to tj that he was doing a thesis and he just recently told GH publicly about it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 11 May 2015, 16:46:13
about komar,

i thought he spoke privately to tj that he was doing a thesis and he just recently told GH publicly about it.

It's been mentioned several times in here that he was going to be less involved fire a but due to his thesis.
Title: .
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 11 May 2015, 16:46:56
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Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 11 May 2015, 17:04:48
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 11 May 2015, 18:25:51
this thread is turning...
(https://organizingwithelizabeth.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/dirty-laundry.jpg?w=416&h=507)

...and still no solution :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 11 May 2015, 18:31:37

Can I help?  Maybe if if a chunk is sent my way I can start getting some out?  I am very efficient at shipping items and go to the post office every day anyways.

If this ends up in your hands I would be willing to make the trip down to help sort and ship on a few weekends.

I could probably come up and help too.

If I'm in town I could help with this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 11 May 2015, 18:33:40
Thanks for proving my point about the geekhack clique, esoomenona. You know absolutely nothing. TJ was always my friend, and I have had nothing against him on any other level than the way this buy has been handled. You don't think it's better for a friend to be honest about the **** that is going on rather than defend the actions of someone that clearly needed a lot more help than he asked for?

I am saying what is true in this case. We should have been told clearly that he couldn't deal with the load on his own. He should have recruited help because I have already told him that I would help him ages ago if he needed it. There are a lot more people that I am sure would help if someone had reached out in a more open way rather than trying to fix stuff over private messages or skype with the few people that are in contact on a daily basis.

esoomenona, I can take your ignorant comment because I know exactly what is going on. You have no clue as to what has actually been going on when it comes to that whole situation. I hope you leave your post unedited for everybody to read it.
Oh and PLEASE reply to this with more insightful white knight comments based on a fraction of the story.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 11 May 2015, 18:40:29
this thread is turning...
Show Image
(https://organizingwithelizabeth.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/dirty-laundry.jpg?w=416&h=507)


...and still no solution :/

i3oilermaker provided a nice solution and others are offering to have a sorting party.  That sounds like a solution to me. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Huxley2500 on Mon, 11 May 2015, 18:51:09
Just to put some more fuel on the fire; TJ spends most of his time at home because he works from home.
PLEASE tell me how you don't have time to organize a single thing when you've got the orders right there next to you for months. Just ****ing tell me.

You want to make excuses then you're going to be called out on them.

If money was an issue you should have said something WAY EARLIER.
--

If anybody wants to take over my order let me know.
4PCB (SMD soldered),2x universal plates, 1x cherry plate stabs 7x spacebar wires, 2x plate mounted cherry stabs. 6.25x wires, 2x cherry pcb stabs 6.25x spacebar wires, 65 x browns, 65 x mx greens.
No assembly.
Originally $290,66. Will sell you the order for $260 or white printed hhkb pro 2 (new or like new) .

A special shoutout goes to you, you stupid ****. You have some nerve. I remember you. You were stuck. Couldn't get your **** together. TJ, thinking you were friends, put together one of, if not the biggest fundraiser this site has seen. I remember donating a $400 keyboard, not because of you, but because he's my friend and that meant a lot to him to help you. He personally donated thousands of dollars. And you're ****ting on him now for a couple hundred? That's some superb friendship you exhibit.

(http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-love-popcorn-13.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 May 2015, 19:05:16
Just to put some more fuel on the fire; TJ spends most of his time at home because he works from home.

That's some pretty weak fuel.

I can't bring my hobbies to work and spend paid time shipping packages and sorting pieces.  Not sure what kind of job you have, but it sounds real nice.


Everyone who's looking for someone to be mad at, go look at the OP of this thread and be mad at the person that made it.  Be mad at the person who abandoned all of us and dumped the work on some poor schmuck unfortunate enough to volunteer their time to help out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 11 May 2015, 19:10:33
Just to put some more fuel on the fire; TJ spends most of his time at home because he works from home.

That's some pretty weak fuel.

I can't bring my hobbies to work and spend paid time shipping packages and sorting pieces.  Not sure what kind of job you have, but it sounds real nice.


Everyone who's looking for someone to be mad at, go look at the OP of this thread and be mad at the person that made it.  Be mad at the person who abandoned all of us and dumped the work on some poor schmuck unfortunate enough to volunteer their time to help out.
But he isn't here to poke with the pitchforks hoff!!!  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 11 May 2015, 19:16:44
HoffmanMyster, it's not the same. Are you saying that while working at home close to the components that you wouldn't be able to take a picture and say something like this: "I got the stuff, trying to figure out how to get this sorted. It will take a lot of time because I can't deal with it by myself right now, so please be patient while I figure out a strategy with my group of friends. Please offer help if you think you can spare it"

I'm pretty sure I could've done that at work with the stuff loaded in a car. Even while working 50 hour weeks.

But hey, keep saying that the excuses are good. It's fine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 May 2015, 19:20:55
HoffmanMyster, it's not the same. Are you saying that while working at home close to the components that you wouldn't be able to take a picture and say something like this: "I got the stuff, trying to figure out how to get this sorted. It will take a lot of time because I can't deal with it by myself right now, so please be patient while I figure out a strategy with my group of friends. Please offer help if you think you can spare it"

I'm pretty sure I could've done that at work with the stuff loaded in a car. Even while working 50 hour weeks.

But hey, keep saying that the excuses are good. It's fine.

Your attitude helps nothing.

If you seriously just want a picture, I'm sure TJ can do that.  You're right, it takes a second.  But then what?  You'll be quiet and let him do his thing?  Is the picture really the only thing you want?  Do you really distrust this man so much that you need to see a picture?

I'm not accepting or denying excuses, that's really not my place to judge.  I don't know TJ's life, and frankly neither do any of us.  I'm just saying that maybe ****ting on him won't actually help the situation.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 May 2015, 19:23:24
Monday morning quarterbacking
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR STABILIZERS)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 May 2015, 19:28:27
Are you saying that while working at home close to the components that you wouldn't be able to take a picture and say something like this: "I got the stuff, trying to figure out how to get this sorted. It will take a lot of time because I can't deal with it by myself right now, so please be patient while I figure out a strategy with my group of friends. Please offer help if you think you can spare it"

He basically did all of this except take the picture and explicitly ask for help.  But let's be honest, anyone who would actually take the time to help would have offered already.

I got stabs a couple days after lysol said he mailed them to me.  Considering a few other factors that aren't anyone's problem here, I didn't feel the need to tell you that "yep, lysol did ship me stab bars".  Especially since I didn't have anything new to say otherwise.  I don't have a timeline because I'm busy and have no clue how long the steps I need to take will take because this level and complexity of fulfillment is completely foreign to me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 11 May 2015, 19:29:53
HoffmanMyster, all we I have ever asked for are real updates with real meaning behind them. Not just a picture. Nobody ever said JUST a picture.
It's about taking responsibility for the situation that you are in, and not making excuses when you can easily assuage most of the people in the group buy by being honest from the beginning.

I can only imagine the stress that has to be attached to a group buy like this, and even more so when the components are dumped on you without much say, but blaming your inability to ask for help on the reasons that have been given just simply doesn't cut it for me.

Being harsh on TJ isn't ****ting on him.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 11 May 2015, 19:56:02
Hey guys, what's the difference between 7bit group buys and this one?

I'll actually have my stuff from 7bit 3 years later.

Meeba bringing the heat  :)) :))

(http://i.imgur.com/mkvF0Ho.png)

It's been 3 years???
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:03:10
It's been 3 years???

No.

Also, of all the people to pipe up during a group buy...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:05:35
It's been 3 years???

No.

Also, of all the people to pipe up during a group buy...

LMFAO
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:07:05
It's been 3 years???

No.

Also, of all the people to pipe up during a group buy...
Careful, he'll start crying like the ***** boy he is.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:07:49
It's been 3 years???

No.

Also, of all the people to pipe up during a group buy...
(http://i.imgur.com/KNQWzpb.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:08:09
It's been 3 years???

No.

Also, of all the people to pipe up during a group buy...

at least I helped the gb move along and gave updates :rolleyes:


LMFAO

back to your cave neet

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:14:03
No.

Also, of all the people to pipe up during a group buy...

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:14:27
It's been 3 years???

No.

Also, of all the people to pipe up during a group buy...
Careful, he'll start crying like the ***** boy he is.
big man demik steppin in
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:15:55
It's been 3 years???

No.

Also, of all the people to pipe up during a group buy...
Careful, he'll start crying like the ***** boy he is.
big man demik steppin in
You know it. But I should stop. I don't want to hurt his feeling so he can run another gb and go awol because somebody hurt his little heart.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:18:02
It's been 3 years???

No.

Also, of all the people to pipe up during a group buy...
Careful, he'll start crying like the ***** boy he is.
big man demik steppin in
You know it. But I should stop. I don't want to hurt his feeling so he can run another gb and go awol because somebody hurt his little heart.

please stop demik, my feelings are really hurt dude  :'( :'(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:19:06
Ugh there goes another GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:23:26
Ugh there goes another GB.

what happened to all those planned Dong Squad group buys? oh right..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:25:03
Ugh there goes another GB.

what happened to all those planned Dong Squad group buys? oh right..

They stopped before collecting money.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:26:20
It's been 3 years???

No.

Also, of all the people to pipe up during a group buy...
Careful, he'll start crying like the ***** boy he is.
big man demik steppin in

Ugh there goes another GB.

what happened to all those planned Dong Squad group buys? oh right..

And yours? Oh right, you stopped after collecting money. Why anybody would deal with a fraud like you is hilarious.

No wonder synjin keeps getting screwed, picks idiots to deal with.

And now we wait for your therapist prescribed bodyguards to step in.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:26:42
Ugh there goes another GB.

what happened to all those planned Dong Squad group buys? oh right..

They stopped before collecting money.

not enough support to hit moq? not suprising  :cool:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:29:10
I'm not sure if I should feel bad for being entertained by this thread...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:30:08
I'm not sure if I should feel bad for being entertained by this thread...

You shouldn't, it is entertaining.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:30:59
I'm not sure if I should feel bad for being entertained by this thread...

(http://i.imgur.com/1oFCx3g.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:31:02
And yours? Oh right, you stopped after collecting money. Why anybody would deal with a fraud like you is hilarious.

hold up homie, i addressed the problem, ensured the safety of the money and passed it on to a reliable friend. how does that register as fraud to you? h..how did you come to that conclusion?  :confused:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:37:32
And yours? Oh right, you stopped after collecting money. Why anybody would deal with a fraud like you is hilarious.

hold up homie, i addressed the problem, ensured the safety of the money and passed it on to a reliable friend. how does that register as fraud to you? h..how did you come to that conclusion?  :confused:

Months of no communication? Oh right. Broken heart.

You were more tolerable when you were photek's little parrot. At least then all we did was just re-read what photek has said before, only through a ****ing idiot.

And having a GB taken from you for being a weak ***** isn't addressing anything.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:40:47
Months of no communication? Oh right. Broken heart.

3 weeks?

how does that register as fraud to you? h..how did you come to that conclusion?  :confused:

^^^^^^^  address please ;)  ;D


You were more tolerable when you were photek's little parrot. At least then all we did was just re-read what photek has said before, only through a ****ing idiot.

And having a GB taken from you for being a weak ***** isn't addressing anything.

..what??? Photekq and Billnye were doing me a favor and communicating on the thread..it would make sense that i was saying what they were saying...

my dude, tonight is NOT a good night for you  :)) :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:44:36
i addressed the problem, ensured the safety of the money and passed it on to a reliable friend.

I'm not sure how, but you've managed to convince yourself that not only is what you did okay, it's actually commendable?  Disappearing for months with people's money is okay because you "ensured the safety of the money", but only after this friend stepped in of his own volition to save your ass.  That friend is the only one that addressed any problems, and we're all very thankful for that.  But how you've twisted this entire memory is beyond me. 

To quote a wise young man:

h..how did you come to that conclusion?  :confused:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:46:54
i addressed the problem, ensured the safety of the money and passed it on to a reliable friend.

I'm not sure how, but you've managed to convince yourself that not only is what you did okay, it's actually commendable?  Disappearing for months with people's money is okay because you "ensured the safety of the money", but only after this friend stepped in of his own volition to save your ass.  That friend is the only one that addressed any problems, and we're all very thankful for that.  But how you've twisted this entire memory is beyond me. 

To quote a wise young man:

h..how did you come to that conclusion?  :confused:
Maybe he will listen to you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:49:25
i addressed the problem, ensured the safety of the money and passed it on to a reliable friend.

I'm not sure how, but you've managed to convince yourself that not only is what you did okay, it's actually commendable?  Disappearing for months with people's money is okay because you "ensured the safety of the money", but only after this friend stepped in of his own volition to save your ass.  That friend is the only one that addressed any problems, and we're all very thankful for that.  But how you've twisted this entire memory is beyond me. 

months? can you please tell me when there wasnt a reply for months? the only example of that is in this thread with TJ..
what I did do wasn't ok by geekhack standards but I never disappeared at all. never did anything with the money. I addressed all the problems entirely.. I don't see where your memory is fading here..
man i wish when you were on my side like back then, now you're the one starting drama in the threads, damn.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:50:00
demik can't address it? damn ill chalk up another V

(http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/churchill_v_for_vctory.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:53:05
This is solid gold.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:56:19
This is solid gold.

Something about getting a lesser conversation gold plated for cheaper?

huehue bad apple watch joke
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:56:23
demik can't address it? damn ill chalk up another V

Show Image
(http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/churchill_v_for_vctory.jpg)


That's a sad little world you live in.

No wonder you're a ***** when real life hits you :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:57:33
This is solid gold.

Something about getting a lesser conversation gold plated for cheaper?

huehue bad apple watch joke
will gold trim for 10k
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:59:19

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:59:50
demik can't address it? damn ill chalk up another V

Show Image
(http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/churchill_v_for_vctory.jpg)


That's a sad little world you live in.

No wonder you're a ***** when real life hits you :/

how does that register as fraud to you? h..how did you come to that conclusion?  :confused:

^^^^^^^  address please ;)  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/QWUt8WT.png)

w-why can't you address it?  :confused: at this point you're not worth replying to. goodnight fam  :rolleyes:

Such drama.
Dubs isn't a greasy skammer so no one has any right to call him a fraud. He eventually got his group buy going and orders have been delivered.
Dubs was however stupid in not answering to people when they were worried about their money. You can't say you've handled the situation well either if you got someone else to clean up your ****.

TL;DR: people are ****s.

first person to post with a level head, including a mod, thank you

I didn't say you committed fraud idiot. I called YOU a fraud. You want to boost about GBs when you couldn't handle one on your own? Came up with an excuse about being gone. Came back and lashed out at people for doubting you. Got your ass saved by pho and bill and want to act like you were successful? You're fake as ****. And on top of that, you want to switch up prices on synjin at the last second then try to act like you're giving him advice because he's new. Once again, poor little dubs looking for excuses to take blame away.

And miss me with that homie/my man/fam bull****. Just another layer of your fake ****, kid.

all I did was laugh at meeba's funny joke and ask if it's been really 3 years.
boost? (boast?) what.. and synjin's thread was slander and his own confusion. of course you were predictable enough to gobble it all up anyways  :rolleyes: others have told me similar experiences with him :P
and hey! you are my homie, you've been following my story closely for a long time! :D


I get 30% warning and demik gets 0%...one sided mod much? mod starts drama, de(tard)mik joins in, drama ensues, same mod that started it, ends it....#gh2015 #modoftheyear
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tbc on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:04:56
This is solid gold.

so gild!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:07:24
demik can't address it? damn ill chalk up another V

Show Image
(http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/churchill_v_for_vctory.jpg)


That's a sad little world you live in.

No wonder you're a ***** when real life hits you :/

how does that register as fraud to you? h..how did you come to that conclusion?  :confused:

^^^^^^^  address please ;)  ;D

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QWUt8WT.png)


w-why can't you address it?  :confused: at this point you're not worth replying to. goodnight fam  :rolleyes:

I didn't say you committed fraud idiot. I called YOU a fraud. You want to boost about GBs when you couldn't handle one on your own? Came up with an excuse about being gone. Came back and lashed out at people for doubting you. Got your ass saved by pho and bill and want to act like you were successful? You're fake as ****. And on top of that, you want to switch up prices on synjin at the last second then try to act like you're giving him advice because he's new. Once again, poor little dubs looking for excuses to take blame away.

And miss me with that homie/my man/fam bull****. Just another layer of your fake ****, kid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: FrostyToast on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:11:23
Such drama.
Dubs isn't a greasy skammer so no one has any right to call him a fraud. He eventually got his group buy going and orders have been delivered.
Dubs was however stupid in not answering to people when they were worried about their money. You can't say you've handled the situation well either if you got someone else to clean up your ****.

TL;DR: people are ****s.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:13:04
He eventually got his group buy going

Sorry, but that's not true.

I do agree that this should be taken out of the GH60 group buy thread.  We've all had some fun here, but unfortunately the fun's over.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:19:07
I do agree that this should be taken out of the GH60 group buy thread.  We've all had some fun here, but unfortunately the fun's over.  :)

Just in case it wasn't clear, this means it's over.  Offending posts will be removed.


Edit: I'd also like to apologize for my contributions to taking this topic off course tonight. I shouldn't have made the comments I did, both because they're off-topic and were unnecessary.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:36:34
Don't hurt yourself over it ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:40:05
I hurt myself over it fam

(http://i.imgur.com/YtOcIS3.jpg)



anyways, on topic, I'm excited for my order that will someday come hopefully

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: funkymeeba on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:24:40
What is the current status of everything, anyway? It's too difficult to read any of this thread, mostly because it's infested with drama. I just want to know where my **** is, yo.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:27:08
What is the current status of everything, anyway? It's too difficult to read any of this thread, mostly because it's infested with drama. I just want to know where my **** is, yo.

everything but the eu pcbs are on hand with tj, tj is pretty busy right now, but is in talks with a couple other members to either transfer the work of shipping or share it with them

if you are in the eu, komar is waiting on plates, switches and stabs from tj, once he has those, i believe he is in talks with matteo about sharing the work load on shipping those orders
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 12 May 2015, 11:54:17


I'm still enjoying the inner peace from this video tbh.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: metafour on Sat, 16 May 2015, 10:12:50
How's the hand-off going?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 17 May 2015, 12:49:16
Man, this thread makes me sad all the way around.

Is there anything that us bystanders can do to help?  Can we expand keycon by a few days and knock this thing out?  Or a side trip on the way to/from keycon?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sun, 17 May 2015, 14:08:27
At this point i think that any help should be appreciated, otherwise something fishy is going on
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jabar on Mon, 18 May 2015, 21:32:46
so who gets my (possibly) 2nd new address since this groupbuy begins?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 18 May 2015, 21:51:04
Man, this thread makes me sad all the way around.

It's hilarious to me that people were telling me not to buy the Rev B. models off Taobao wayyyy back in Dec 13 because these were "almost done". Been using my GH60 for over a YEAR now. And that included like 4 months of build time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: RavenII on Tue, 19 May 2015, 14:32:42
Nevermind, the post wasn't constructive.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: cgbuen on Wed, 20 May 2015, 00:20:28
I'm in jabar's boat. In case this ever lifts off the ground again via a hand-off, I need to update my address for the second time. How'll this be resolved? I imagine any previous address change Google Doc in this thread is probably stale.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: JonasDK on Wed, 20 May 2015, 19:56:02
Can't we setup a donation account that will be donated to whoever that picks this GB up and finishes it? This would create an incentive to get this mess cleaned up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kekstee on Thu, 21 May 2015, 09:58:40
I acutally thought about that as well. TJ has hinted that this thing became way more expensive than planned. And as long as someone presents a nice and complete write up of estimated vs real costs I'd actually consider a donation after this thing is done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tricheboars on Mon, 25 May 2015, 02:24:09
Let's Get this going. I am down for whatever helps. Just let us know here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 25 May 2015, 04:58:00
Man, this thread makes me sad all the way around.

It's hilarious to me that people were telling me not to buy the Rev B. models off Taobao wayyyy back in Dec 13 because these were "almost done". Been using my GH60 for over a YEAR now. And that included like 4 months of build time.

Yeah I've been using my GH60 for almost a year now too! :0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 25 May 2015, 05:34:10
Is this GB gonna be repeated for those who missed it?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 25 May 2015, 06:06:36
Is this GB gonna be repeated for those who missed it?

someone instructs the rookie :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 25 May 2015, 06:50:57

Is this GB gonna be repeated for those who missed it?

New member or excellent troll?

:)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 25 May 2015, 07:00:56
New member or excellent troll?
Extraordinaire if you don't mind.
So much for asking a question.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 25 May 2015, 07:57:21
it's not about asking a question, it's that you picked the worst possible one to ask. not that hard to scroll up a dozen posts to see people still arguing about why there has been no updates i.e. there is no boards
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 25 May 2015, 08:10:55
it's not about asking a question, it's that you picked the worst possible one to ask. not that hard to scroll up a dozen posts to see people still arguing about why there has been no updates i.e. there is no boards
I guess one is to blame for not scrolling up enough even though a 156 pages thread tend to discourage people to read the whole discussion.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 25 May 2015, 08:27:25
It's alright, TalkingTree. There will eventually be a lot of boards on the market once this buy gets sorted out. There are also other 60% keyboards around that you could look at instead of this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 25 May 2015, 08:36:39
There will eventually be a lot of boards on the market once this buy gets sorted out. There are also other 60% keyboards around that you could look at instead of this.
Much obliged.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 25 May 2015, 08:51:57
I guess one is to blame for not scrolling up enough even though a 156 pages thread tend to discourage people to read the whole discussion.
you don't need to read the whole thing, but the bickering was happening right in the posts above yours. it's like walking into a store where the owners are having a fist fight and asking if they are open.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 25 May 2015, 10:31:31
New member or excellent troll?
Extraordinaire if you don't mind.
So much for asking a question.

if you read any of the last few pages then you would realize that this groupbuy has not went smoothly.
In the time that we have waited, many other 60% pcb's have been released that are basically better then the gh60.
Have a look at the nerd 60 pcb from gon. it does everything that the gh60 originally planned to do plus more.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 25 May 2015, 10:59:37
Have a look at the nerd 60 pcb from gon. it does everything that the gh60 originally planned to do plus more.
I had but the shipping fee is too high.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: JonasDK on Mon, 25 May 2015, 11:42:28
Have a look at the nerd 60 pcb from gon. it does everything that the gh60 originally planned to do plus more.
I had but the shipping fee is too high.


Then just buy satans GH60 (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Satan-GH60-PCB-White-Board-LED-DIY-Mechanical-Keyboard/32266124434.html), AFAIK the issues with rev. B has been corrected and it supports LED.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 25 May 2015, 12:40:51
So,is the handoff happening?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 25 May 2015, 14:19:01
Then just buy satans GH60 (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Satan-GH60-PCB-White-Board-LED-DIY-Mechanical-Keyboard/32266124434.html), AFAIK the issues with rev. B has been corrected and it supports LED.
That might do. Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: metafour on Tue, 26 May 2015, 01:56:48
At this point I feel like you've had more than enough time and patience given to you regarding the situation and we've received nothing but disrespect. Volunteer or not you have an obligation to every person whose order you have in your possession. It is well past the time that you need to either step up and get this group buy done or hand it off to someone that will in a timely manner and be completely open and transparent about whichever path you choose to follow.

We all deserve better than what we ended up with in this situation but it's time to leave the past behind, accept responsibility, and get this done in a timely manner.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 26 May 2015, 08:48:14
Have the plans been sorted, are there plans? What has been sorted in the last two weeks?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 29 May 2015, 09:37:35
At this point I feel like you've had more than enough time and patience given to you regarding the situation and we've received nothing but disrespect. Volunteer or not you have an obligation to every person whose order you have in your possession. It is well past the time that you need to either step up and get this group buy done or hand it off to someone that will in a timely manner and be completely open and transparent about whichever path you choose to follow.

We all deserve better than what we ended up with in this situation but it's time to leave the past behind, accept responsibility, and get this done in a timely manner.

I couldn't agree more
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 29 May 2015, 20:34:26
So almost three weeks since mention of the handoff and no update on that.  Is the handoff happening?  Where does everything stand?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 30 May 2015, 02:45:33
I gave my availability but haven't heard from Komar.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Mon, 01 June 2015, 05:56:38
I've only participated in three GBs so far.... DSA Dolch (lol), GH60, and the aluminium TEX 60% case. Joined GH 3 years ago and all I have to show for it is a dusty empty keyboard case. Really hope this GB comes right.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 01 June 2015, 07:14:27
I've only participated in three GBs so far.... DSA Dolch (lol), GH60, and the aluminium TEX 60% case. Joined GH 3 years ago and all I have to show for it is a dusty empty keyboard case. Really hope this GB comes right.

Hahaha, we're in the same boat, although I ordered another set of key caps that are just laying there now

GH60 Soon™
Never stop believing
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 01 June 2015, 09:24:11
Tj,
Would it be to much to ask to post a picture of the goods?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 01 June 2015, 12:27:38
Tj,
Would it be to much to ask to post a picture of the goods?

Or to at least give an update on anything ever without it devolving almost into a total **** show before showing up?  I'd shut up if we had regular updates and/or a timeline.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 01 June 2015, 12:44:33
I think it's safe to say that it doesn't matter how hard or soft anybody asks for updates or information about this group buy.
As a collective we obviously don't matter, and it's blatantly obvious that TJ has people telling him to ignore people that say something in the thread.

Interestingly I no longer can access the orders spreadsheet. Is that just me or has it been taken offline suddenly?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:38:39
Komar, can you please get back to Matt? Please lets have this group buy in the hands of someone that is able to finish it off? It makes me cry every night.

Also

700 DAYS 11 HOURS 39 MINUTES, woo 700 days people!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:51:32
700 DAYS 11 HOURS 39 MINUTES, woo 700 days people!

I think it's 2 years since I paid either this month in a couple of days or the start of next month, but I'm pretty sure this month.


Hey guys, remember how we supposed to get this by  December, January at the latest, of 2013?

More
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130216110932/epoka-lodowcowa/pl/images/7/72/Salty.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: cmadrid on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:53:41
700 DAYS 11 HOURS 39 MINUTES, woo 700 days people!

I think it's 2 years since I paid either this month in a couple of days or the start of next month, but I'm pretty sure this month.


Hey guys, remember how we supposed to get this by  December, January at the latest, of 2013?

More
Show Image
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130216110932/epoka-lodowcowa/pl/images/7/72/Salty.gif)

I can't even imagine how salty I would be.. good luck
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 01 June 2015, 13:59:06
700 DAYS 11 HOURS 39 MINUTES, woo 700 days people!

I think it's 2 years since I paid either this month in a couple of days or the start of next month, but I'm pretty sure this month.

5/28/2013 for me.

Next oldest outstanding purchase is from 5/18/2014.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 01 June 2015, 14:08:29
5/28/2013 for me.

Next oldest outstanding purchase is from 5/18/2014.

Then it might have actually been last month and I'm past the two year mark.

(https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/15-cry.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tbc on Mon, 01 June 2015, 23:26:41
Komar, can you please get back to Matt? Please lets have this group buy in the hands of someone that is able to finish it off? It makes me cry every night.

it hurts my feelings as well :(

can tj's friends just coordinate and get it shipped out to another 'distributor'?  or does tj just not want anyone visiting his place to do a pickup?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: agor on Tue, 02 June 2015, 15:37:29
I'm in since the 31st of May, 2013 and I just hope something will arrive someday....
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: RickyJ on Tue, 02 June 2015, 23:13:16
Paid June 1, 2013.  Hmm, almost like an anti-anniversary?

So acknowledging that shipping costs have gone up, and some other stuff has cropped up, how much do we need to contribute to balance this out?  I know this has been asked before, but if that's what this is going to take then let's get with it!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 June 2015, 23:34:11
5/28/2013 for me.

Next oldest outstanding purchase is from 5/18/2014.

Just double checked, 5/28/13 for me as well. 

I just want to know that this is going somewhere.  I had a small order, but it was huge money for me when I bought into this. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: 4814 on Wed, 03 June 2015, 13:47:47
Can we demand a refound? It has been over two years and there is no noticeable progress, not even updates on the current situation  :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 03 June 2015, 14:16:59
Can we demand a refound? It has been over two years and there is no noticeable progress, not even updates on the current situation  :(

You can demand all you want, but the money has already been spent and the product already produced. And paypal only gives you 60 days to request a refund, so I think we're slightly over that limit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: strict on Wed, 03 June 2015, 20:47:07
Can we demand a refound? It has been over two years and there is no noticeable progress, not even updates on the current situation  :(

You can demand all you want, but the money has already been spent and the product already produced. And paypal only gives you 60 days to request a refund, so I think we're slightly over that limit.

(http://i.imgur.com/cIO1efr.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 03 June 2015, 23:22:34
How about the people that were talking to tj about taking over chime in here about what's going on or what happened?

There's way too little communication going on regarding every aspect of this group buy right now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 04 June 2015, 01:22:00
I talked to TJ, shipping everything to me would be insanely expensive.

I'm glad to take over just the EU orders anyway, but I've got the feeling there's no budget even for that (just my opinion, no official word). Anyway I'm still available at contributing financially. I could advance some funds and hopefully get something back as donations.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Thu, 04 June 2015, 02:00:40
Depending on the costs I would also like to chime in to get the EU orders to people who are willing to handle the rest
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 04 June 2015, 09:52:58
I talked to TJ, shipping everything to me would be insanely expensive.

I'm glad to take over just the EU orders anyway, but I've got the feeling there's no budget even for that (just my opinion, no official word). Anyway I'm still available at contributing financially. I could advance some funds and hopefully get something back as donations.

I myself have looked into something similar before when picking up a previous group buy. It's interesting, but most postal services have an agreement with other countries to get the package to their local shipping port and from that point on it's up to each respective post office to shoulder the cost to get the package from the port to the final address. This is why you see inexpensive $1 items being sent from China to the US while asking yourself how they could even afford the shipping. China also gives shipping subsidies, etc.. but I digress.  So in a nutshell you're paying to get it to the port of that country. Sure it's always cheaper to ship locally vs internationally, but overall the costs aren't too bad. After searching around I found a good way to get a shipping discount through USPS which was a little better then their online price. It's basically this > https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_ship-now (https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_ship-now)

Paypal has a shipping site which is hidden pretty well but the direct link works after you've logged in once. This offers the best shipping rate I've found, without paying some type of monthly fee to send stuff (i.e. stamps.com). Buy some cheap sticker paper (i.e. DigiOrange Full Sheet Labels) and boxes on amazon and you're golden.

On that note, Matt I still want to send you a Phantom kit ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 04 June 2015, 10:22:30
It sounded to me like tj was talking to other members aside from Matt3o about taking over. You were open about the fact that it ended up being too expensive to ship everything overseas and then tj said he was in talks with other members. Where did all that end up?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mauri on Thu, 04 June 2015, 12:18:06
so whats crackalackin fam?? indefinite hiatus, dead and buried or wat?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 04 June 2015, 20:32:34
so whats crackalackin fam?? indefinite hiatus, dead and buried or wat?

I'm going with rotting/rusting in a garage.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: miscsubbin on Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:07:46
Oh man. For years I've always said that this was going to happen eventually. I guess it's finally time to admit that I flushed a bunch of money down the toilet. Such a shame my first (and probably last) group buy had to be like this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 05 June 2015, 09:59:56
Oh man. For years I've always said that this was going to happen eventually. I guess it's finally time to admit that I flushed a bunch of money down the toilet. Such a shame my first (and probably last) group buy had to be like this.

There are some very well respected and established group buy organizers that you can trust to deliver the product you pay for. I recommend having a look at [CTRL]ALT (https://ctrlalt.io/) (or their forum (https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=143.0))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Fri, 05 June 2015, 16:08:33
Can we get costs for shipping the EU stuff and get it sorted out? I have no idea of the weight or size of the EU order, we can get arrange a fund to get it sorted through Matt3o or any other trust worthy EU forumite. Just need Komar to bloody answer!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 June 2015, 16:21:56
Can we get costs for shipping the EU stuff and get it sorted out? I have no idea of the weight or size of the EU order, we can get arrange a fund to get it sorted through Matt3o or any other trust worthy EU forumite. Just need Komar to bloody answer!

FYI, Komar doesn't even have most of the EU stuff in his possession yet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 06 June 2015, 15:08:59
Well I guess we need to get the rest over here! We need Komar and TJ to work with us to get this moving again, We can't have this group buy on an moving finish date.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 06 June 2015, 15:44:27
TJ, what's the update on someone (like Brad) taking over the shipping?  It's almost been a month since you said you were talking with people about it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Sun, 07 June 2015, 10:51:41
(http://deskthority.net/resources/image/21687)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 07 June 2015, 16:17:11
TJ, what's the update on someone (like Brad) taking over the shipping?  It's almost been a month since you said you were talking with people about it.

Oh damn, I thought I'd confirmed that apoc was getting everything.  Only hang up now is me transporting stuff to a meeting point, but that will be resolved one of two ways by mid week.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 07 June 2015, 16:21:44
Thank you for the update.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 07 June 2015, 16:27:02
Thanks.  Last I saw from him it sounded like he was just going to be building orders that needed to be built and shipping those.  Now it's been confirmed that he'll be doing all the shipping of everything?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 07 June 2015, 16:37:50
Thanks.  Last I saw from him it sounded like he was just going to be building orders that needed to be built and shipping those.  Now it's been confirmed that he'll be doing all the shipping of everything?

That's what my understanding is, yes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: John Fourth on Sun, 07 June 2015, 17:53:16
Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: billnye on Sun, 07 June 2015, 18:26:07
Based Marvin :]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 08 June 2015, 08:50:06
Yikes... Last talk I had was about me doing just the unassembled US orders...

I would love to help out more, but INT orders are looking bleak... Komar has already stated that he has no time for it what so ever...
Not to mention the shipping to get everything over there... Plus you're still left with Canada and South American orders...

I say this now, If some how we get money for all the shipping cost... I'll be happy to do the leg work, but I won't spend another dime on this...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 08 June 2015, 08:59:43
Yikes... Last talk I had was about me doing just the unassembled US orders...

I would love to help out more, but INT orders are looking bleak... Komar has already stated that he has no time for it what so ever...
Not to mention the shipping to get everything over there... Plus you're still left with Canada and South American orders...

I say this now, If some how we get money for all the shipping cost... I'll be happy to do the leg work, but I won't spend another dime on this...

id be happy to chip some money in

however

what we all need to see is this

how much money total was taken

how much money was spent on pcbs
how much was spent on plates
how much was spent on stabs and switches

if costs really did come to more than we paid on each part, im sure myself and many others are happy to pay whats outstanding or more even to get things done

we have just had so much conflicting information, people saying things cost more than we thought, people saying they cost the same or less etc

if the money is gone, thats totally fine, we jsut need to see where it went and why the costs projected were so wrong

as i say, i know im happy to chip in a good sum, ive spoken to a couple others who will put in a good amount of money as well to make this happen

the trouble is, given that people paid money for both shipping as well as building, neither of which have happened yet, its hard to understand how there isnt any money currently in the pot

before people get up in arms, im one of the few people who have been supportive in this thread

this isnt knocking tj, he wasnt the person who did the cost projections etc im sure

i just think we should know exactly what things cost versus what was charged, so we can understand exactly how much money is needed and why
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 08 June 2015, 10:45:38
Although thats bad news for us Int orders at least its a starting point. The updates are welcome, we just need to keep it rolling, just hope us outside of the US aren't going to have to brunt an unbearable cost as it will likely only be us putting money into the pot.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 08 June 2015, 11:18:26
How come my order has been removed from the order spreadsheet?

Edit: Seems like I can't even view the spreadsheet most of the time, so who knows. My order was gone the last time I was able to check.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 June 2015, 11:26:28
How come my order has been removed from the order spreadsheet?

Edit: Seems like I can't even view the spreadsheet most of the time, so who knows. My order was gone the last time I was able to check.

I can still access the original order response sheet owned by WFD. And I have a backup copy from 6/2013 saved, just in case.

I show you ordered 4 PCBs, 2 ANSI plates, 1x cherry plate stabs 7u, 2x plate mounted cherry stabs 6.25u, 2x cherry pcb stabs 6.25u, 65x browns, 65x mx greens.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 08 June 2015, 11:28:03
I found this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit#gid=0 too, and my order is still there.
The spreadsheet linked in the first post of this thread is acting very weirdly for me for some reason.
Thanks for the confirmation, jdcarpe.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 08 June 2015, 11:46:53
@jdcarpe or anyone else that knows: Sometime after the payment deadline, the unpaid orders were made available for other people to pick up. As in my case, some people ended up paying for two orders separately, their original order and the unpaid order they picked up later. Were the orders ever combined or is there a confirmation sheet that shows who picked up what of the unpaid orders? I don't think I have ever seen an order confirmation that shows both of my orders.

Edit: The sheet linked in the OP isn't working right for me either.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 08 June 2015, 11:55:12
Yikes... Last talk I had was about me doing just the unassembled US orders...

I would love to help out more, but INT orders are looking bleak... Komar has already stated that he has no time for it what so ever...
Not to mention the shipping to get everything over there... Plus you're still left with Canada and South American orders...

I say this now, If some how we get money for all the shipping cost... I'll be happy to do the leg work, but I won't spend another dime on this...

id be happy to chip some money in

however

what we all need to see is this

how much money total was taken

how much money was spent on pcbs
how much was spent on plates
how much was spent on stabs and switches

if costs really did come to more than we paid on each part, im sure myself and many others are happy to pay whats outstanding or more even to get things done

we have just had so much conflicting information, people saying things cost more than we thought, people saying they cost the same or less etc

if the money is gone, thats totally fine, we jsut need to see where it went and why the costs projected were so wrong

as i say, i know im happy to chip in a good sum, ive spoken to a couple others who will put in a good amount of money as well to make this happen

the trouble is, given that people paid money for both shipping as well as building, neither of which have happened yet, its hard to understand how there isnt any money currently in the pot

before people get up in arms, im one of the few people who have been supportive in this thread

this isnt knocking tj, he wasnt the person who did the cost projections etc im sure

i just think we should know exactly what things cost versus what was charged, so we can understand exactly how much money is needed and why

Hell, and I'm not even in this buy, but once my new job starts, I'm willing to kick some money in to get this **** moving at this point.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: limitz on Mon, 08 June 2015, 12:04:28
By the time all the orders get sent out, the PCB's will be past their expiration date. I can't believe nobody has brought this up yet, and the fact that this isn't a MAJOR concern.

All PCB's have expiration dates on their solderability. They typically have a hydrophilic coating applied to pads, and depending on the finish used, that only lasts for about 1 year on the high end. I work with PCB's quite a bit, and even a board with a quality finish like ENIG, only has a max solderability of about 1 year, before rebaking is necessary to reinduce the hydrophilic action. This time could fall to about only 6 months depending on how the PCB's were stored. This source has more information:

http://www.multicircuits.com/pcb/tech/surface_finishes.html

I have a strong feeling that once the PCB's do get sent out, there will be a lot of frustrated users complaining about how the SMD pads do not seem to retain solder. I don't know the full history of this group buy, but at the risk of sounding like a broken record, the PCB's should have been shipped standalone without waiting for the stabilizers. I have a strong suspicion that depending on when the PCB's were first made, the time spent waiting for stabilizers will have caused tons of PCB's to go past their solderability time.

Essentially, depending on PCB manufacture time, they could be very well nearing their expiration date. This should be a pressing concern because there are thousands, to tens of thousands of dollars of PCBs hanging in limbo.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 08 June 2015, 12:08:09
By the time all the orders get sent out, the PCB's will be past their expiration date. I can't believe nobody has brought this up yet, and the fact that this isn't a MAJOR concern.

All PCB's have expiration dates on their solderability. They typically have a hydrophilic coating applied to pads, and depending on the finish used, that only lasts for about 1 year on the high end. I work with PCB's quite a bit, and even a board with a quality finish like ENIG, only has a max solderability of about 1 year, before rebaking is necessary to reinduce the hydrophilic action. This source has more information:

http://www.multicircuits.com/pcb/tech/surface_finishes.html

I have a strong feeling that once the PCB's do get sent out, there will be a lot of frustrated users complaining about how the SMD pads do not seem to retain solder. I don't know the full history of this group buy, but at the risk of sounding like a broken record, the PCB's should have been shipped standalone without waiting for the stabilizers. I have a strong suspicion that depending on when the PCB's were first made, the time spent waiting for stabilizers will have caused tons of PCB's to go past their solderability time.


Yikes, I've got quite a few projects that could be affected if this is the case. I've got at least a dozen PCB's that are probably over a year old that I never did anything with. :eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 08 June 2015, 12:12:59
I think most people did not chose the option to do their own SMD soldering and to have it factory done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: limitz on Mon, 08 June 2015, 12:14:22
By the time all the orders get sent out, the PCB's will be past their expiration date. I can't believe nobody has brought this up yet, and the fact that this isn't a MAJOR concern.

All PCB's have expiration dates on their solderability. They typically have a hydrophilic coating applied to pads, and depending on the finish used, that only lasts for about 1 year on the high end. I work with PCB's quite a bit, and even a board with a quality finish like ENIG, only has a max solderability of about 1 year, before rebaking is necessary to reinduce the hydrophilic action. This source has more information:

http://www.multicircuits.com/pcb/tech/surface_finishes.html

I have a strong feeling that once the PCB's do get sent out, there will be a lot of frustrated users complaining about how the SMD pads do not seem to retain solder. I don't know the full history of this group buy, but at the risk of sounding like a broken record, the PCB's should have been shipped standalone without waiting for the stabilizers. I have a strong suspicion that depending on when the PCB's were first made, the time spent waiting for stabilizers will have caused tons of PCB's to go past their solderability time.


Yikes, I've got quite a few projects that could be affected if this is the case. I've got at least a dozen PCB's that are probably over a year old that I never did anything with. :eek:

Yes, this is a major concern in industry. This article specifically discusses poor wetting on PCB pads:

http://www.epectec.com/pcb/defects/poor_lead_wetting.html

Note this quote:

"Poor solderability of the pins can be caused by poor or thin plating or long storage times"

There are numerous variables that influence pad solderability, including surface finish thickness, humidity, and many other variables. However, almost everyone in the industry in agreement that no matter what the surface finish, there is absolutely a finite shelf-life on PCB boards, where they *need* to be soldered before their time is up.

Fortunately, for those who are invested enough, there are ways to reinduce solderability. I mentioned rebaking in my first post, which is doable. More information is here:

http://www.circuitnet.com/experts/84214.shtml

However, I've never done this, and I would assume some form of reflow oven is necessary to maintain temperature within certain bounds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: limitz on Mon, 08 June 2015, 12:18:52
I think most people did not chose the option to do their own SMD soldering and to have it factory done.

It's typically a concern on SMD pads more, but through hole pins will be affected as well.

In the link I posted, there are specifically examples of poor solder wetting on through hole pins, as the pin has lost its hydrophilic nature.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 08 June 2015, 12:52:15
Yikes... Last talk I had was about me doing just the unassembled US orders...

I would love to help out more, but INT orders are looking bleak... Komar has already stated that he has no time for it what so ever...
Not to mention the shipping to get everything over there... Plus you're still left with Canada and South American orders...

I say this now, If some how we get money for all the shipping cost... I'll be happy to do the leg work, but I won't spend another dime on this...

i just wanna address this post

id be almost more angry if what you say is correct, than if nothing happened at all

we didnt pay for this gb regionally, we all paid for it

whether there is enough money left in the pot or not, doesnt affect who does and does not get the shaft

if costs ran high on this gb, then it runs equally high for everyone, but if there is money to ship conus orders, than part of that money, belongs to international buyers

that money isnt a communal pot, for people to dip in as they please

for simple math

if there are 100 orders, and 50 are conus and 50 are international

and we overspent on the buy, and say all we are left with to spend is 500 dollars

then 5 dollars of that money, belongs to each buyer, not the gb, 250 of that money would be international

what im getting at is this, making a statement suggesting the outlook is bleak for international people is bull****

a percentage of any money that is left belongs to international buyers, we shouldnt have to come up and fund our shipping when conus people dont simply because someone decides they gonna gonna give all the remaining funds to ship conus

im not asking for any special treatment, what im saying is this, any money left to finish this buy, is all of ours, as a group, and any money we are missing to complete this buy, is again ours, as a group

dont get me wrong, its great to see some potential progress, but it is disgusting to say that there is money to ship some conus orders, and not money to ship international, we all paid our money, we all paid it in to one pot, and a percentage of all of that money is all of ours

the way to go about this isnt to play favourites, or ship an order here and an order there at somebodies choosing

we need to sit down and be honest

if we dont have enough money, lets see the numbers, work out why, and work out how much is needed to COMPLETE this buy, and then work from there

im more than happy to donate a couple of grand to this and get it going, but we need to know why and what towards

this isnt to do with blame or ****ting on people, just to find a solution that is FAIR to everyone

and komar being busy isnt the issue, matteo has agreed both publicly and privately to take over international shipping
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 08 June 2015, 13:28:00
Wait a minute.. Are the organizers saying that there's not enough money for shipping because the buy ended up costing more than anticipated?
Weren't most of the parts paid for over a year ago (if not longer)? Why weren't we approached when the buy ended up costing more then?
What ended up costing more and why? How much more? How much is left of the money?
Why aren't you all outraged at the fact that we've been kept in the dark about something as important as money to be able to ship the parts to the buyers?

This is so incredibly suspect that I don't even know what else to say.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 08 June 2015, 13:31:00
Well said, and at this point there is not enough transparency to move the buy forward in that regard. I do hope TJ lays out the options but I fear he has used up his post quota in this thread for this month!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 08 June 2015, 13:38:42
Bunny, I think the issue is that he only agreed to handle a subset of stuff within the US and maybe handle all the shipping within the US, not take over everything.  He's saying that he can handle that, but he has no clue how the international orders will be handled since he can't take them on.

I do agree with you completely that the shipping cost should be distributed evenly, however I disagree on the method you proposed.  While more difficult, it would be better to distribute the shipping cost as a fraction of the originally paid amount.  So, for example, if there's only $900 left for shipping and 100 international and 100 US parts to ship where US shipping was billed at $10 and international at $20, US orders should be credited $3 and international $6..  It's still not fair, but more fair than splitting the amount evenly.

Like has been said, before I'd even consider giving any additional money, I'd want an accounting of the costs or for a pair of trustworthy members to be given an accounting of the costs and corroborate it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 08 June 2015, 14:31:52
I do agree with you completely that the shipping cost should be distributed evenly, however I disagree on the method you proposed.  While more difficult, it would be better to distribute the shipping cost as a fraction of the originally paid amount.  So, for example, if there's only $900 left for shipping and 100 international and 100 US parts to ship where US shipping was billed at $10 and international at $20, US orders should be credited $3 and international $6..  It's still not fair, but more fair than splitting the amount evenly.

Nubbs, this was my first reaction as well to what Bunny said. But after giving it some thought, I think it depends on why the costs increased. If the increase was due to an increase in international shipping, then maybe you have a valid point. However, if there's not enough money now because the actual production costs were higher, then that's something we should all share equally. Or something that we should share based on out orders. I.e., if plates costs more than budgeted, then the cost of each plate increases, on so on. Not trying to get in the middle of anything, just my $0.02 on making it as fair as possible.

If there's a lack of money, it might not all be attributed to increased shipping costs, but it affects shipping most since that's the last thing to be paid for. Doesn't mean that it should necessarily cost international buyers more simply because their shipping was higher to begin with. Unless international shipping was the only cost that increased, which I don't think is the case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 08 June 2015, 14:43:01
Bunny, I think the issue is that he only agreed to handle a subset of stuff within the US and maybe handle all the shipping within the US, not take over everything.  He's saying that he can handle that, but he has no clue how the international orders will be handled since he can't take them on.

I do agree with you completely that the shipping cost should be distributed evenly, however I disagree on the method you proposed.  While more difficult, it would be better to distribute the shipping cost as a fraction of the originally paid amount.  So, for example, if there's only $900 left for shipping and 100 international and 100 US parts to ship where US shipping was billed at $10 and international at $20, US orders should be credited $3 and international $6..  It's still not fair, but more fair than splitting the amount evenly.

Like has been said, before I'd even consider giving any additional money, I'd want an accounting of the costs or for a pair of trustworthy members to be given an accounting of the costs and corroborate it.

sorry ill be more clear

because i basically agree with what you are saying

the numbers i gave, were purely to keep things simple as an example

if i was being more clear, if anything, international people im sure have a higher percentage of the pot like you stated

what i was really getting at is, whatever is left, big or small, each person in this buy owns a part of it, it isnt the gbs money, it is that persons money, and it isnt anyones right, to pick and choose where that money goes

i just wanted to say that ill be disgusted if some people's shipping (as was mentioned, the conus non build orders) get shipped, and then later we are told they are out of money

if money is missing, there is an amount that should be offset, some people will be willing to pay it, some people wont, and some people will be willing to pay more to over people that cant or wont front any money, but that is each persons choice, that decision shouldnt be made for us when it is our money
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 08 June 2015, 15:24:03
I have donated the $50 (assembly x 2).

Here's to hoping this actually happens.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Index on Mon, 08 June 2015, 16:01:37
I've been waiting patiently, but with the recent update about shipping I'm breaking my silence.

So you're telling me that after 2+ years the following may be true?:

1) I may not be getting my order.
2) My order might be defective.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: guilleguillaume on Mon, 08 June 2015, 16:30:11
I haven't read this forum for almost 2 years nor I did log in after a lot of things happened here back in 2013.

I was wondering about what happend to this GB? I was thinking my money was lost in someone's pockets already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 08 June 2015, 16:53:59
I've been waiting patiently, but with the recent update about shipping I'm breaking my silence.

So you're telling me that after 2+ years the following may be true?:

1) I may not be getting my order.
2) My order might be defective.
I can only laugh at this point. I can at least salvage the switches. Just give those to me at least.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 08 June 2015, 17:03:27
Well I will run with it until all hope is lost, along with my confidence in group buys here. I might go buy a NerD 60% to save the pain!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 09 June 2015, 00:14:44
Okay to sum up:

- available GB funds have not been disclosed, but...
- ... it seems clear there's no money left to ship internationally
- US orders will be handed to ApocalypseMaow who will ship to CONUS
- so (if I get it right) US orders will be delivered at no additional cost using what is left of the GB money
- Komar signed off regarding EU orders
- others volunteered (myself included) to take over EU orders and contribute financially
- all is asked to proceed before injecting more money in a black-hole is to know how much is left in the GB account and how money has been spent
- the fate of Canadian/South American/Asian orders is uncertain
- it seems that PCBs have a solderability due date which is long past by now, so it is also uncertain if you could actually use those PCBs even if you get them. The problem (AFAIU) is only with SMD components. Pass through components should still work.

thanks for traveling with GH60 International, please check for your personal belongings before leaving the forum.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 09 June 2015, 00:29:11
Okay to sum up:

- available GB funds have not been disclosed, but...
- ... it seems clear there's no money left to ship internationally
- US orders will be handed to ApocalypseMaow who will ship to CONUS
- so (if I get it right) US orders will be delivered at no additional cost using what is left of the GB money
- Komar signed off regarding EU orders
- others volunteered (myself included) to take over EU orders and contribute financially
- all is asked to proceed before injecting more money in a black-hole is to know how much is left in the GB account and how money has been spent
- the fate of Canadian/South American/Asian orders is uncertain
- it seems that PCBs have a solderability due date which is long past by now, so it is also uncertain if you could actually use those PCBs even if you get them. The problem (AFAIU) is only with SMD components. Pass through components should still work.

thanks for traveling with GH60 International, please check for your personal belongings before leaving the forum.

TL;DR version:

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 09 June 2015, 01:15:03
Has it been ~1000 days since the pcb's were manufactured and shipped to TJ? isn't that about the average duration before solderability becomes a issue?


Edit: at this point I don't even want the pcb's anyway's.
I want the switches,stabs,plates I paid for.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: TDub on Tue, 09 June 2015, 03:51:11
And I though it was a good idea to get some extra pcbs, just for the fun of building keyboards.....  :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: limitz on Tue, 09 June 2015, 07:19:32
Has it been ~1000 days since the pcb's were manufactured and shipped to TJ? isn't that about the average duration before solderability becomes a issue?


Edit: at this point I don't even want the pcb's anyway's.
I want the switches,stabs,plates I paid for.

I posted a few links up top. It's nowhere near 1000 days.

ENIG, one of the highest quality finishes available, has a shelf-life of about 1 year.


- it seems that PCBs have a solderability due date which is long past by now, so it is also uncertain if you could actually use those PCBs even if you get them. The problem (AFAIU) is only with SMD components. Pass through components should still work.

thanks for traveling with GH60 International, please check for your personal belongings before leaving the forum.

Pass through is affected as well.

The 2nd link I posted has several examples of soldering defects on pass-through pins due to poor solderability. The solder doesn't wet the entire annular circle, and has other related defects with complete pin contact.

Posting again: http://www.epectec.com/pcb/defects/poor_lead_wetting.html
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 09 June 2015, 07:56:46
not to be "that guy" but I have PCBs like 30 years old that I'm still able to solder pass through components on. I agree lead doesn't stick so easily, but still feasible.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: limitz on Tue, 09 June 2015, 08:58:20
Oh I'm sure you'll be able to get the solder through the hole. Throw enough solder and heat at the situation and it'll flow through.

The issue is reliability after 1, 2 , 3 years down the road. When people start getting switches not working, cold solder joints, ghost key presses, repeated key presses, and other defects. These are the main issues I'd say related to poor solderability on through hole pins.

Even the link I posted showed solder flowed through all the through hole pins, but in each instance, there were issues with sticking, as well as incomplete coverage.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 09 June 2015, 09:21:14
Okay to sum up:

- the fate of Canadian/South American/Asian orders is uncertain

Ummmmmm, why?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Tue, 09 June 2015, 10:37:50
Ok. Is the deal with Canadian/South American/Asian orders just getting parts out there?

How many orders we talking to each?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 June 2015, 10:56:03
As someone who was involved with organizing this GB, but who is no longer involved, I will say this. I think everyone's order is in the same boat, so to speak, and no orders have higher or lower priority at this point.

Unless TJ states otherwise, I think we may assume that all the GB funds are gone, and thus every participant shares the same fate with regard to assembly and shipping. If this is the case, then people who ordered assembly service will most likely not be getting that service, unless there is someone who will donate their time to assemble those orders at no cost.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 09 June 2015, 11:01:00
As someone who was involved with organizing this GB, but who is no longer involved, I will say this. I think everyone's order is in the same boat, so to speak, and no orders have higher or lower priority at this point.

Unless TJ states otherwise, I think we may assume that all the GB funds are gone, and thus every participant shares the same fate with regard to assembly and shipping. If this is the case, then people who ordered assembly service will most likely not be getting that service, unless there is someone who will donate their time to assemble those orders at no cost.

i have absolutely no problem with this, if this is the case, i doubt many people would mind either paying shipping again, or even assembly

but the fact is, we have paid for both shipping and assembly already, and i think before anyone is asked or volunteers to forward any money

we should be shown the costs of each part, so we know what cost more and where the money went

prices change, especially when there are delays, i doubt many people would have any issue with that, but we know what prices were charged, so if we were shown the invoices and final pricing per part (including there shipping form wherever it was from) then itll be very obvious and transparent where those additional funds went and why we are in this situation

the trouble is right now we are being given different reasons, one is that people dont have enough time (people have also volunteered there time to this to solve the issue)

then that there is little to no money left( this is something we can solve as a community im sure)

but with services like shipping and assembly, which have been billed but not fulfilled, there should be a good amount of money left, so i think its totally reasonable to see exactly why those funds were used and what for without it being mentioned to us

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 09 June 2015, 11:52:06
but with services like shipping and assembly, which have been billed but not fulfilled, there should be a good amount of money left, so i think its totally reasonable to see exactly why those funds were used and what for without it being mentioned to us

My guess would be that a large portion went toward the production of plates.  We had to use a different supplier than initially quoted (ApocalypseMaow's local place produced them), which I'm sure added some costs.

You're absolutely right though, those details (rather than my speculation ;) ) would be great to know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 09 June 2015, 12:16:17
but with services like shipping and assembly, which have been billed but not fulfilled, there should be a good amount of money left, so i think its totally reasonable to see exactly why those funds were used and what for without it being mentioned to us

Exactly this.  I'd be willing to assemble 10-15 boards for free (as long as shipping is paid to and from me), but I'd like to know where the money went first.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Tue, 09 June 2015, 12:44:15
As long as it's just soldering switches, I don't mind picking up some assembly orders either.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 10 June 2015, 05:36:04
but the fact is, we have paid for both shipping and assembly already, and i think before anyone is asked or volunteers to forward any money we should be shown the costs of each part, so we know what cost more and where the money went

This exactly - if the money is all gone despite us having paid it all then I'd be very interested in where it has gone.  I paid $21 for shipping and I imagine that everyone has paid a similar amount on average (some more, some less) - multiply that up by 100 orders and that's $2000 that's just 'gone'?  Add onto that the assembly costs at $25 a pop, albeit for not that many orders, and that's getting on for $2.5k that's just unaccounted for???  At this point I would pay the $21 again to actually, finally get what I am owed but not if that means that someone gets to line their pockets with thousands of dollars.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: maxmalkav on Wed, 10 June 2015, 06:09:14
We can keep on talking about how to proceed to solve this situation, but until the people in charge don't give detailed explanations of the status of things, we can only propose solutions based on hypothesis. I have run some small group buys myself and I know how many unexpected costs may show up, but I think transparency it is the only way to go and  correspond the trust  people are putting on you. Really, it is way better to be clear and not try to hide what went wrong, it only delays a possible solution.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 10 June 2015, 06:13:07
lol.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: fknraiden on Wed, 10 June 2015, 06:50:16
Assembly orders will be done pro-bono by other users here including myself if it comes to it. I dont think that is the issue at the moment. IMHO The first thing that needs to happen is have a complete itemized cost of all parts. Whether that is privately or publicly disclosed, it needs to be dealt with before any more money is given to cover whatever costs we are being told is delaying completion.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 10 June 2015, 07:47:12
lol.

it's the period that makes it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 10 June 2015, 08:06:10
but with services like shipping and assembly, which have been billed but not fulfilled, there should be a good amount of money left, so i think its totally reasonable to see exactly why those funds were used and what for without it being mentioned to us

My guess would be that a large portion went toward the production of plates.  We had to use a different supplier than initially quoted (ApocalypseMaow's local place produced them), which I'm sure added some costs.

You're absolutely right though, those details (rather than my speculation ;) ) would be great to know.
Nah, the price we paid was lower then the quote WFD got... At least that's how I remember it...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 10 June 2015, 08:34:52
but with services like shipping and assembly, which have been billed but not fulfilled, there should be a good amount of money left, so i think its totally reasonable to see exactly why those funds were used and what for without it being mentioned to us

My guess would be that a large portion went toward the production of plates.  We had to use a different supplier than initially quoted (ApocalypseMaow's local place produced them), which I'm sure added some costs.

You're absolutely right though, those details (rather than my speculation ;) ) would be great to know.
Nah, the price we paid was lower then the quote WFD got... At least that's how I remember it...


That doesn't match what was said previously here...

Lost over 3K on Jackass's group buy and spent 600 on this one, what's wrong with people these days. Who's in charge of this group buy anyway? Is WFD still around?

No, he's not.  Put that as point one on the many point list on why this was a cluster****.

I'm talking privately to a couple people about taking over. 

The idea of profit from this is news to me as the furthest I was involved in pricing was being told by wfd what to charge.

And then it took a year to order PCBs.  They cost significantly more than expected.

Then, apocalypsemaow found another plate source.  They cost significantly more than expected.

Stabs?  I paid what I charged for half of them.  The other half? Cost more than I even charged for them. 

Shipping prices have changed, too, and not for the better.  On top of the shipping parts needed that weren't included in the cost of shipping per order. 

So yeah, wfd may have had profit worked in when he told me what to charge, but that's a boat that's long sailed away for me.

I'm sorry this isn't your perfect answer, nubbs and I'm sure you'll see it as lashing out but it's what I have, just like every other answer I had was what I had at the time.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 10 June 2015, 09:18:10
but with services like shipping and assembly, which have been billed but not fulfilled, there should be a good amount of money left, so i think its totally reasonable to see exactly why those funds were used and what for without it being mentioned to us

My guess would be that a large portion went toward the production of plates.  We had to use a different supplier than initially quoted (ApocalypseMaow's local place produced them), which I'm sure added some costs.

You're absolutely right though, those details (rather than my speculation ;) ) would be great to know.
Nah, the price we paid was lower then the quote WFD got... At least that's how I remember it...

its my understanding that this is true from people i spoke to in the know at the time

it strikes me as odd that we would have just paid a bunch extra for plates without looking in to other quotes or mentioning it at the time
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 10 June 2015, 09:36:35
can we just have the final PCB design and run a new GB?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 June 2015, 09:42:00
can we just have the final PCB design and run a new GB?

I asked komar about that several months ago. I think it would be a good idea.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 10 June 2015, 09:44:01
can we just have the final PCB design and run a new GB?

I asked komar about that several months ago. I think it would be a good idea.

IN hehe

at this point, i really dont even care about extra bits, i just want my pcbs

and im really not complaining about this gb, **** happens, im down with that, i just want us to sit down, throw it out in the open and work out how we can all get together and make it move forward,  its not about blaming anyone, clearly several factors have led to this, but they are done now, lets work out how to move forward
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 10 June 2015, 10:09:11
Who was / is in charge of the collected funds?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 10 June 2015, 10:10:27
Who was / is in charge of the collected funds?

TJ
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 10 June 2015, 10:49:56
Who was / is in charge of the collected funds?

TJ

Well that's concerning.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 June 2015, 11:03:19
The original group buy responsibilities were these:

WhiteFireDragon: Take orders, purchase plates, purchase stabilizers, most North American assembly, NA shipping
komar007: Purchase PCBs, Rest of World assembly, RoW shipping
jdcarpe: Purchase switches, a few US assemblies and shipping
tjcaustin: Collect money, pay vendors, send money for assembly and shipping to those responsible

WFD disappears. ApocalypseMaow steps in to purchase plates, and TJ takes over purchasing stabilizers. At TJ's request, he takes over all NA assembly and shipping from WFD (missing) and me. I ship TJ all switches.

TJ presumably now has all components at his location, besides some PCBs which are with komar.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 10 June 2015, 11:19:50
The original group buy responsibilities were these:

WhiteFireDragon: Take orders, purchase plates, purchase stabilizers, most North American assembly, NA shipping
komar007: Purchase PCBs, Rest of World assembly, RoW shipping
jdcarpe: Purchase switches, a few US assemblies and shipping
tjcaustin: Collect money, pay vendors, send money for assembly and shipping to those responsible

WFD disappears. ApocalypseMaow steps in to purchase plates, and TJ takes over purchasing stabilizers. At TJ's request, he takes over all NA assembly and shipping from WFD (missing) and me. I ship TJ all switches.

TJ presumably now has all components at his location, besides some PCBs which are with komar.

i was under the impression that komars pcbs were at the factory and not with him, and they were waiting to ship them to komar when the other parts were shipped to him via tj

but that was a while ago it may have changed
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: limitz on Wed, 10 June 2015, 13:08:56
can we just have the final PCB design and run a new GB?

can we just have the final PCB design and run a new GB?

I asked komar about that several months ago. I think it would be a good idea.

IN hehe

at this point, i really dont even care about extra bits, i just want my pcbs

and im really not complaining about this gb, **** happens, im down with that, i just want us to sit down, throw it out in the open and work out how we can all get together and make it move forward,  its not about blaming anyone, clearly several factors have led to this, but they are done now, lets work out how to move forward

There's no need for another GB, there are GH60 PCB/Plates everywhere on Taobao. Just get one off there. PCB's are going for about ~20-30 dollars (~120-140 RMB), and plates for a bit more.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 10 June 2015, 13:28:09
There's no need for another GB, there are GH60 PCB/Plates everywhere on Taobao. Just get one off there. PCB's are going for about ~20-30 dollars (~120-140 RMB), and plates for a bit more.

Satan GH60 pcb isn't the same thing :/

I did found this however: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.118.9upqHX&id=45899840513&ns=1&abbucket=20#detail
(http://gd2.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i2/TB1OdzlIXXXXXcKXFXXXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg)
(http://gd2.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i2/695432482/TB2ApVwdXXXXXb.XpXXXXXXXXXX_!!695432482.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Wed, 10 June 2015, 16:12:07
TJ / komar, whats happening and when is it happening?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: limitz on Wed, 10 June 2015, 16:23:44
There's no need for another GB, there are GH60 PCB/Plates everywhere on Taobao. Just get one off there. PCB's are going for about ~20-30 dollars (~120-140 RMB), and plates for a bit more.

Satan GH60 pcb isn't the same thing :/

I did found this however: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.118.9upqHX&id=45899840513&ns=1&abbucket=20#detail


That matte black solder mask looks beautiful.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 10 June 2015, 16:31:48
There's no need for another GB, there are GH60 PCB/Plates everywhere on Taobao. Just get one off there. PCB's are going for about ~20-30 dollars (~120-140 RMB), and plates for a bit more.

Satan GH60 pcb isn't the same thing :/

I did found this however: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.118.9upqHX&id=45899840513&ns=1&abbucket=20#detail
Show Image
(http://gd2.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i2/TB1OdzlIXXXXXcKXFXXXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg)

Show Image
(http://gd2.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i2/695432482/TB2ApVwdXXXXXb.XpXXXXXXXXXX_!!695432482.jpg)

The AMJ60 actually is pretty nice.

It comes pre-soldered. It has additional SMD LED mounts on the back to light up your Acrylic case. It also has dedicated pinouts for a Bluetooth module (UART) and power pins for a battery pack (5V). A neat addition is the resettable fuse to protect against over-currents from the USB port.

Unfortunately, documentation is a little sparse.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 10 June 2015, 19:49:05
There's no need for another GB, there are GH60 PCB/Plates everywhere on Taobao. Just get one off there. PCB's are going for about ~20-30 dollars (~120-140 RMB), and plates for a bit more.

Satan GH60 pcb isn't the same thing :/

I did found this however: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.118.9upqHX&id=45899840513&ns=1&abbucket=20#detail
Show Image
(http://gd2.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i2/TB1OdzlIXXXXXcKXFXXXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg)

Show Image
(http://gd2.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i2/695432482/TB2ApVwdXXXXXb.XpXXXXXXXXXX_!!695432482.jpg)

The AMJ60 actually is pretty nice.

It comes pre-soldered. It has additional SMD LED mounts on the back to light up your Acrylic case. It also has dedicated pinouts for a Bluetooth module (UART) and power pins for a battery pack (5V). A neat addition is the resettable fuse to protect against over-currents from the USB port.

Unfortunately, documentation is a little sparse.

i think most people are fully aware this pcb is out of date right now

really the pcb and its functionality arent the point

to many people here, this gb and this pcb represents the start of their journey here on gh or in the keyboard enthusiast community

and more so, its a community product and project

i personally am not short of 60 percent boards or even pcbs

but its this particular pcb i want
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 11 June 2015, 05:33:10
There's no need for another GB, there are GH60 PCB/Plates everywhere on Taobao. Just get one off there. PCB's are going for about ~20-30 dollars (~120-140 RMB), and plates for a bit more.

Satan GH60 pcb isn't the same thing :/

I did found this however: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.118.9upqHX&id=45899840513&ns=1&abbucket=20#detail
Show Image
(http://gd2.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i2/TB1OdzlIXXXXXcKXFXXXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg)

Show Image
(http://gd2.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i2/695432482/TB2ApVwdXXXXXb.XpXXXXXXXXXX_!!695432482.jpg)

The AMJ60 actually is pretty nice.

It comes pre-soldered. It has additional SMD LED mounts on the back to light up your Acrylic case. It also has dedicated pinouts for a Bluetooth module (UART) and power pins for a battery pack (5V). A neat addition is the resettable fuse to protect against over-currents from the USB port.

Unfortunately, documentation is a little sparse.

i think most people are fully aware this pcb is out of date right now

really the pcb and its functionality arent the point

to many people here, this gb and this pcb represents the start of their journey here on gh or in the keyboard enthusiast community

and more so, its a community product and project

i personally am not short of 60 percent boards or even pcbs

but its this particular pcb i want
I understand. Really sad that this had to end in such a mess. :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: noogel on Thu, 11 June 2015, 08:17:58
I'm very like this keyboard. ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Polymer on Thu, 11 June 2015, 10:11:58
i think most people are fully aware this pcb is out of date right now

really the pcb and its functionality arent the point

to many people here, this gb and this pcb represents the start of their journey here on gh or in the keyboard enthusiast community

and more so, its a community product and project

i personally am not short of 60 percent boards or even pcbs

but its this particular pcb i want

Unfortunately, I think this GB represents the community all too well...Too many people that are incredibly irresponsible...not to mention thieves...which were all "senior" members of the community...

It is the biggest reason I don't join more GBs..they're just poorly run and getting ripped off has become so common here, I think people just forget how often it happens...

There are great senior members that run great GBs..and those are the ones that I either participate in or consider participate in. I hate to say it but out of all the enthusiasts communities I belong to, this one by far is the least responsible and by far has the most thieves....sad to say but true...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 11 June 2015, 10:52:33
I think you're dramatically overstating the number of people who have ripped others off here.  I can only think of a small handful of buys that did.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 11 June 2015, 11:01:56
I have participated in a LOT of group buys and there have only been two that derailed like this one. The other was the Phantom v2 group buy and they both launched around the same time. There's probably one-or-two others out there, but most of them come to completion and there is still time for that to happen here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 11 June 2015, 11:17:46
I have participated in a LOT of group buys and there have only been two that derailed like this one. The other was the Phantom v2 group buy and they both launched around the same time. There's probably one-or-two others out there, but most of them come to completion and there is still time for that to happen here.

I'd love to help out with this one as well, but I just don't think I have the time anymore. I'm even less upset about the 11pcb's & plates I'm waiting on, but more so that I've spent hundreds of dollars on 60% cases with nothing to go in them. Hell I ended up buying a poker v2 just to be able to have something.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: battletux on Thu, 11 June 2015, 13:45:50
So I guess it is safe to say our money/PCBs are long gone.

Yay. Think I'll stick to buying stuff from aliexpress and the like in future, seems they get everything first and even factoring in shipping I'd get the item I paid for sooner.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 11 June 2015, 13:47:00
So I guess it is safe to say our money/PCBs are long gone.

No one is saying that. There is still hope for this GB, but it's an uphill climb.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: battletux on Thu, 11 June 2015, 13:59:54
So I guess it is safe to say our money/PCBs are long gone.

No one is saying that. There is still hope for this GB, but it's an uphill climb.

Come on. How long has this been running for? 700+ days with all we have to show for it is a hole in our pocket where our money used to be and promises.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 11 June 2015, 16:38:35
It should not be an uphill climb it's only the current GB runners making it like this!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nebo on Thu, 11 June 2015, 16:40:15
Doesn't matter what it should be, it's what it is. Can only work from where we are. I don't care about the lost money, it's been gone for 2+ years now. I just want either a "this is over" or something from what I paid.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Fri, 12 June 2015, 00:03:47
It should not be an uphill climb it's only the current GB runners making it like this!

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Polymer on Fri, 12 June 2015, 03:44:27
I think you're dramatically overstating the number of people who have ripped others off here.  I can only think of a small handful of buys that did.

No I'm not...I'm not stating it is a majority of the buys...it is definitely not..but it has happened enough....and generally by senior members..that is the worst part...Not just talking GBs either..

On other enthusiasts boards, you might get a random person that is basically stealing from people once every 4-5 years.....but it isn't one of your senior members (or maybe it is but they at least hide their identity).  Is that the case here?  no..it is far more often than that...and so I'm not overstating what I think...but I will clarify I don't mean it is a majority of the GBS or transactions....it is just a lot more often than it should be...Off the top of my head there are at least 4..and two that had stores here...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 12 June 2015, 08:29:52
"Senior Member" does not mean anything.
It is a title automatically given to members that post over a certain number of valid posts.

oh and if you want a "Exquisite Elder" with a color star you have to ask a admin to assign whatever star you want to you when you reach 1500 posts if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 12 June 2015, 09:25:41
oh and if you want a "Exquisite Elder" with a color star you have to ask a admin to assign whatever star you want to you when you reach 1500 posts if I remember correctly.

there's only one robot! :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 12 June 2015, 11:34:37
I think you're dramatically overstating the number of people who have ripped others off here.  I can only think of a small handful of buys that did.

No I'm not...I'm not stating it is a majority of the buys...it is definitely not..but it has happened enough....and generally by senior members..that is the worst part...Not just talking GBs either..

On other enthusiasts boards, you might get a random person that is basically stealing from people once every 4-5 years.....but it isn't one of your senior members (or maybe it is but they at least hide their identity).  Is that the case here?  no..it is far more often than that...and so I'm not overstating what I think...but I will clarify I don't mean it is a majority of the GBS or transactions....it is just a lot more often than it should be...Off the top of my head there are at least 4..and two that had stores here...

Could you please list what you are talking about?  I'm just asking for my own information, not to prove you wrong or anything.

I've been around a bit, have been part of a fair number of GB's, and not one of them has ever gone south.  Taken a while, maybe, but never just straight up scammed and scrammed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 12 June 2015, 11:45:57
Only ones I know of off the top of my head are theprofosist (or however you spell it) with his, WFD, DrugER from LZ, and alixinhzai's aluminum case GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: limitz on Fri, 12 June 2015, 12:37:19
There's also that girl who scammed a bunch of people with Mario caps. She claimed she was making them, took a bunch of money, and disappeared due to "health reasons."

Would be all fine and dandy, except she's super active on Twitter and Twitch, but doesn't respond to anyone from GH.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 12 June 2015, 12:50:51
takaki with his acrylic phantom cases that never materialized.

There's also that girl was scammed a bunch of people with Mario caps. She claimed she was making them, took a bunch of money, and disappeared due to "health reasons."
Would be all fine and dandy, except she's super active on Twitter and Twitch, but doesn't respond to anyone from GH.

cherpalla
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 12 June 2015, 12:55:17
She was a new person here.  That one is particularly touchy because of the donating to the Smallfry fund element.  It always bugs me when people make money off of someone's death, even if they really do give most of the money to charity.  It's always worse when they use that as an opportunity to walk away with the money.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: limitz on Fri, 12 June 2015, 12:59:16
She was a new person here.  That one is particularly touchy because of the donating to the Smallfry fund element.  It always bugs me when people make money off of someone's death, even if they really do give most of the money to charity.  It's always worse when they use that as an opportunity to walk away with the money.

Yea that's disgusting, profiting off someone's death like that. I don't advocated brigading and doxxing, but someone really needs to publicize more her scam, b/c it indicates how poor her quality of character is.

I can't imagine she would have twitch viewers anymore if people knew she was such a scummy scammer.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 12 June 2015, 13:04:37
Well, we don't know if she scammed or if the problems she was facing with getting it done became too much so she just ran away.  No matter what happened, it wasn't handled properly and it was shady.

Overall, the rate of scams to successful buys is pretty damn good here though. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: limitz on Fri, 12 June 2015, 13:08:29
Well, we don't know if she scammed or if the problems she was facing with getting it done became too much so she just ran away.  No matter what happened, it wasn't handled properly and it was shady.

Overall, the rate of scams to successful buys is pretty damn good here though.

Agree with the latter statement. For the most part, GB's are pretty well run here, and the risk is way overblown by Ripster. Every GB that's posted over there, he has to post his stupid "disclaimer".

As for the woman. If you take in other people's money, didn't deliver a product, don't respond, and didn't refund. That's a scammer to me, regardless of personal situation.

I cannot fathom any circumstance where you can't take 2-3 hours, and just refund everyone if you can't deliver.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 12 June 2015, 13:43:46
Well, we don't know if she scammed or if the problems she was facing with getting it done became too much so she just ran away.  No matter what happened, it wasn't handled properly and it was shady.

Overall, the rate of scams to successful buys is pretty damn good here though. 

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57263.msg1776503#msg1776503
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 12 June 2015, 14:00:36
'Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 12 June 2015, 14:08:33
Well, we don't know if she scammed or if the problems she was facing with getting it done became too much so she just ran away.  No matter what happened, it wasn't handled properly and it was shady.

Overall, the rate of scams to successful buys is pretty damn good here though. 

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57263.msg1776503#msg1776503

Thanks for that update JD.  Looks like the latter statement it was.  Good to hear that it's still going on, just facing major setbacks. 

There have been a couple of buys that have been perfect examples of how to handle setbacks and keeping people informed.  I know people wouldn't be so bitter if they had known what happened and were kept in the loop.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 12 June 2015, 14:20:08
There have been a couple of buys that have been perfect examples of how to handle setbacks and keeping people informed.  I know people wouldn't be so bitter if they had known what happened and were kept in the loop.

What group buy organizers don't understand is that we participants realize that they are only human. People make mistakes, and sometimes do dumb things. If the organizer will admit their mistake, work to change it, and not repeat the mistake, it goes a long way toward keeping the faith in a group buy. Just keep things moving, even if all you can do is post a 5-second update stating that you are waiting on X, before you can do Y. Then actually deliver on what you say. That is all people expect.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 12 June 2015, 16:05:26
There have been a couple of buys that have been perfect examples of how to handle setbacks and keeping people informed.  I know people wouldn't be so bitter if they had known what happened and were kept in the loop.

What group buy organizers don't understand is that we participants realize that they are only human. People make mistakes, and sometimes do dumb things. If the organizer will admit their mistake, work to change it, and not repeat the mistake, it goes a long way toward keeping the faith in a group buy. Just keep things moving, even if all you can do is post a 5-second update stating that you are waiting on X, before you can do Y. Then actually deliver on what you say. That is all people expect.

Exactly that.  If costs increase, but I'm kept in the loop of the process and why they went up, I'm more than willing to pay a little extra.  If the organizer is moving, going on vacation, or something like that, that's more than acceptable, but it helps us to know so we don't get worried.  If work is super busy, we can wait.  If they're close enough and need help sorting, I'm there for part of the weekend helping out.  People on here are incredibly forgiving (for the most part) when you're honest about delays and/or price increase.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 12 June 2015, 17:26:35
So any proof that these exist and are in good shape and actually work (a few of the PCBs tested?). I have joked about proof of life photos in the past but given its now hit 2 years its valid. I am glad to hear there is planned movement on this group buy, but until i see these actually in the hands of someone who actually gives a damn, I have very little hope of seeing mine, This would be the 5th group buy i have lost money on at geekhack.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 12 June 2015, 18:06:28
Did the hand-off ever happen?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jabar on Fri, 12 June 2015, 23:06:19
title should be Waiting for Godot
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Fri, 12 June 2015, 23:13:14
Cherpalla scammed people? Why am I not surprised lmao

Oh going the moz route of unfortunate events lol.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 12 June 2015, 23:47:18
Cherpalla scammed people? Why am I not surprised lmao

Oh going the moz route of unfortunate events lol.

You should have faith in people sometimes ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Sat, 13 June 2015, 00:17:40
Cherpalla scammed people? Why am I not surprised lmao

Oh going the moz route of unfortunate events lol.

You should have faith in people sometimes ;)

DTA
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 13 June 2015, 00:32:49
Cherpalla scammed people? Why am I not surprised lmao

Oh going the moz route of unfortunate events lol.

You should have faith in people sometimes ;)

DTA

*shrug* I think you should a little. Just take enough precautions to cover yourself.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Sat, 13 June 2015, 00:57:09
My precautions is finally getting over the mentality of trying to own everything this place offers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Polymer on Sat, 13 June 2015, 04:01:39
"Senior Member" does not mean anything.
It is a title automatically given to members that post over a certain number of valid posts.

oh and if you want a "Exquisite Elder" with a color star you have to ask a admin to assign whatever star you want to you when you reach 1500 posts if I remember correctly.

Do I really have to explain this?  I guess because this board uses that tag people might think this..

By Senior member..I mean a long standing (or semi long standing) reputation on the board.  They are known by other members because of their participation on the board...Has nothing to do with what the board calls you when you hit a certain level...

And so another one with this girl who was apparently a newish member..but the ones that stick out to me are the ones that were done by long standing members of the community...

I can definitely say..what allows it to happen is the people here seem to forget very quickly...I didn't even know Ripster posted stuff about GBs, my opinion was formed just on the number of scams that happened and I saw unfold....and it might be hard to accept but this community does have a problem with that....I'm not sure I have a solution..maybe some sort of GB Registrar with their personal information..but maybe that's too much...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 13 June 2015, 05:24:57
Did the hand-off ever happen?
negative...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 13 June 2015, 05:25:43
Alright. Thanks for the reply Apoc <3


Edit: Why are the questions about the money being ignored? Nobody else finds the reaction to the questions being asked highly suspicious?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 13 June 2015, 16:56:02
No answers from any of the current runners, not sure its specifically the money. I just want them to damn well hand it over already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 14 June 2015, 00:54:55
I don't want to give false hopes, but things are very very slowly moving.

Bunnylake, myself, tjcaustin are trying to get this train moving.

Basically we found a US hub that will receive the whole lot, will split the orders and distribute to various proxies around the globe.

I haven't spoken with ApocalypseMaow yet, it seems he is available at taking care of US orders (or at least a portion of that).

We might open a "GH60 revive fund" and ask for donations. I know for a fact that there are some funds left, I don't think it will be enough to ship 100% of the boards (considering the added cost of shipping to proxies), but it's a start.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Sun, 14 June 2015, 02:42:20
Great to hear Matt3o, be sure to take over the updated lists that take account of the orders that were taken over by people, don't want my order to be sent to someone else haha
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: agor on Sun, 14 June 2015, 07:11:57
A big thank you to all the helpers involved. PLEASE get this ship sailing. I'm probably also going to "donate" my bought assembly (*2)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 14 June 2015, 08:17:25
I'm not in this buy, but I would donate a little to get this Titanic turned into The Love Boat.
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/4601496/love-boat-isaac-o.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Pieminister on Sun, 14 June 2015, 10:18:44
I sometimes feel the urge to write a timeline for all the things that happened in this group buy, because as an outsider it is absolutely fascinating how it all went down.

But then I stop self flagellating myself.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 16 June 2015, 04:43:17
We will be finally moving the EU orders in the coming days. We also found a hub in US that will help us distributing the boards. "Rest of the world" orders are not many, so we should be able to handle them somehow.

As soon as TJ will transfer the remaining funds we'll proceed. Please note that we will need your (financial) help to ship all the orders because we will end up short of funds. As soon as I have a better figure I'll post all numbers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tradet on Tue, 16 June 2015, 04:48:57
That's awesome Matt3o.

What happens with the switches from 7bit? I assume they are included?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 16 June 2015, 04:55:00
That's awesome Matt3o.

What happens with the switches from 7bit? I assume they are included?

yes, we will also get those
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 16 June 2015, 05:31:07
We will be finally moving the EU orders in the coming days. We also found a hub in US that will help us distributing the boards. "Rest of the world" orders are not many, so we should be able to handle them somehow.

As soon as TJ will transfer the remaining funds we'll proceed. Please note that we will need your (financial) help to ship all the orders because we will end up short of funds. As soon as I have a better figure I'll post all numbers.

Hallelujah!  I'd be more than happy to pay whatever it will cost to ship my stuff from Italy to the UK if it finally gets my stuff here :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tradet on Tue, 16 June 2015, 07:07:53
That's awesome Matt3o.

What happens with the switches from 7bit? I assume they are included?

yes, we will also get those

Super.

I'm also happy to pay to ship my stuff.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: miscsubbin on Tue, 16 June 2015, 07:54:50
I would also be willing to donate some to this fund.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 16 June 2015, 08:29:15
We will be finally moving the EU orders in the coming days. We also found a hub in US that will help us distributing the boards. "Rest of the world" orders are not many, so we should be able to handle them somehow.

As soon as TJ will transfer the remaining funds we'll proceed. Please note that we will need your (financial) help to ship all the orders because we will end up short of funds. As soon as I have a better figure I'll post all numbers.

as an update to this

to my understanding this is what is happening

the pcbs are currently in china and shipping has been paid

these will be delivered directly to me

the international switches are on hand with komar and these will be shipped to me

the remaining funds for this gb are going to be sent to me

with these remaining funds this is what we have left to pay for

having everything that tj has (US pcbs, all plates, US switches, all stabs) sent to 1 of 2 people we have lined up in the US
paying the import fees of the china pcbs from china to the EU
shipping the international plates and stabs to the EU and covering potential import fees
shipping to and from people who volunteer their time to cover built orders
and shipping orders out to people

as far as eu orders go, im being provided with a full order list and with that i will do several things

firstly any pcb only orders i will ship right away
secondly, anyone who wants just switches and pcbs form their order i can ship right away
if anyone in the eu volunteers to do any builds, i can ship the relevent parts out to them right away

anybody who wants to wait for their plates and stabs in the EU, i can either hold your parts until i receive them, or split your order in to 2 parts

im not sure if im allowed to disclose how much money is left in this buy yet, as it is not my number to share, but what i can say is this, for whatever reason, there is not nearly enough money left, but before any money is donated by anyone ill make sure that number is disclosed

from what i can work out, there will certainly be enough money in the pot to pay the eu import fees, and have everything shipped from TJ to someone else in the US, and have those parts that need to go to the EU shipped there

my guess would be there will then be very little left in the pot, really leaving building work and shipping of the orders, my hope would be several people will volunteer to do building work for the people that cant do it themselves

im not privy to any info as to why this buy is over budget, so i dont have any answers, but much like everyone else, im very keen to get them

that being said, me and matteo have been working together to come up for solutions, whilst waiting to hear why they were needed in the first place

please do not take this post as set in stone, this is the info i have been told, and what i have been told will happen, that being said, it hasnt happened yet, but i didnt want to sit and keep things in the dark without updates when we potentially have one

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 16 June 2015, 09:30:12
We will be finally moving the EU orders in the coming days. We also found a hub in US that will help us distributing the boards. "Rest of the world" orders are not many, so we should be able to handle them somehow.

As soon as TJ will transfer the remaining funds we'll proceed. Please note that we will need your (financial) help to ship all the orders because we will end up short of funds. As soon as I have a better figure I'll post all numbers.

as an update to this

to my understanding this is what is happening

the pcbs are currently in china and shipping has been paid

these will be delivered directly to me

the international switches are on hand with komar and these will be shipped to me

the remaining funds for this gb are going to be sent to me

with these remaining funds this is what we have left to pay for

having everything that tj has (US pcbs, all plates, US switches, all stabs) sent to 1 of 2 people we have lined up in the US
paying the import fees of the china pcbs from china to the EU
shipping the international plates and stabs to the EU and covering potential import fees
shipping to and from people who volunteer their time to cover built orders
and shipping orders out to people

as far as eu orders go, im being provided with a full order list and with that i will do several things

firstly any pcb only orders i will ship right away
secondly, anyone who wants just switches and pcbs form their order i can ship right away
if anyone in the eu volunteers to do any builds, i can ship the relevent parts out to them right away

anybody who wants to wait for their plates and stabs in the EU, i can either hold your parts until i receive them, or split your order in to 2 parts

im not sure if im allowed to disclose how much money is left in this buy yet, as it is not my number to share, but what i can say is this, for whatever reason, there is not nearly enough money left, but before any money is donated by anyone ill make sure that number is disclosed

from what i can work out, there will certainly be enough money in the pot to pay the eu import fees, and have everything shipped from TJ to someone else in the US, and have those parts that need to go to the EU shipped there

my guess would be there will then be very little left in the pot, really leaving building work and shipping of the orders, my hope would be several people will volunteer to do building work for the people that cant do it themselves

im not privy to any info as to why this buy is over budget, so i dont have any answers, but much like everyone else, im very keen to get them

that being said, me and matteo have been working together to come up for solutions, whilst waiting to hear why they were needed in the first place

please do not take this post as set in stone, this is the info i have been told, and what i have been told will happen, that being said, it hasnt happened yet, but i didnt want to sit and keep things in the dark without updates when we potentially have one



Goodness, Bunny, you're a freaking machine.  You and your boys always step up to the plate for the sake of the community.  Awesome.  (and I don't mean to exclude others like Matt3o, et. al.; I'm thankful for you guys too).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 16 June 2015, 09:41:40
I can do 10-15 vanilla (no switch mod) builds.  More than that and I know I'll start to go stir crazy.

It still would be nice to see where all the money went instead of just knowing how much is left.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 16 June 2015, 09:50:00
I can do 10-15 vanilla (no switch mod) builds.  More than that and I know I'll start to go stir crazy.

It still would be nice to see where all the money went instead of just knowing how much is left.

it should be fairly easy for us to find out with a little work

im pretty sure komar or jd would knwo the cost of the pcbs

jd will know the cost of the switches

apoc will know the cost of the plates

the stabs were from ivans gb and were for sure lower than what was charged

and im sure someone could do a little math with the spreadsheet and work out what was charged, i seem to remember a number like 65k being thrown about but i cant remember for the life of me why i think that, so it could be totally in my head from something else entirely
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Tue, 16 June 2015, 10:09:47
I can help with assembly if it's needed. I won't be back in Norway until August 3.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 16 June 2015, 10:57:16
I can do 10-15 vanilla (no switch mod) builds.  More than that and I know I'll start to go stir crazy.

It still would be nice to see where all the money went instead of just knowing how much is left.

it should be fairly easy for us to find out with a little work

im pretty sure komar or jd would knwo the cost of the pcbs

jd will know the cost of the switches

apoc will know the cost of the plates

the stabs were from ivans gb and were for sure lower than what was charged

and im sure someone could do a little math with the spreadsheet and work out what was charged, i seem to remember a number like 65k being thrown about but i cant remember for the life of me why i think that
Here is the cost of the plates!!! Well minus 3... got some extras I picked up!!!
(http://i.imgur.com/2lzG2r0.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 16 June 2015, 11:16:47
I can do 10-15 vanilla (no switch mod) builds.  More than that and I know I'll start to go stir crazy.

It still would be nice to see where all the money went instead of just knowing how much is left.

it should be fairly easy for us to find out with a little work

im pretty sure komar or jd would knwo the cost of the pcbs

jd will know the cost of the switches

apoc will know the cost of the plates

the stabs were from ivans gb and were for sure lower than what was charged

and im sure someone could do a little math with the spreadsheet and work out what was charged, i seem to remember a number like 65k being thrown about but i cant remember for the life of me why i think that
Here is the cost of the plates!!! Well minus 3... got some extras I picked up!!!
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2lzG2r0.jpg)


so for every plate the gb made 8 dollars then

as double the price of each plate was charged

so we know plates and stabs arent the reason there is no money at least

so technically the gb should be up about 4000 just on plates alone
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 16 June 2015, 11:17:18
Thanks Apoc.  Given that the plates cost ~1/2 what we were charged for them, you'd think there would be more money left over from that part, even when factoring in shipping the parts. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 16 June 2015, 11:19:42
komar007 has the total for all the PCBs that we bought.

In total, we paid 3498.25 USD for the switches from Taiwan, and 802.06 EUR (approx. 1061.21 USD at 25 JUL 13 exchange rate) to 7bit. Also, 7bit received (sent yet?) 1600 switches in trade, from those we ordered from Taiwan. So all told about $4560.


Shipping the switches from me to TJ cost the GB $0, since I paid for it out of pocket.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Tue, 16 June 2015, 11:24:46
I'd be willing to throw some time behind soldering on switches as well.

I'm not amazing at soldering, but I successfully yanked apart and jailhoused a pure pro one weekend for fun.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 16 June 2015, 11:29:07
I can do SMD soldering for a couple of boards if SMD soldering isn't covered. I won't do switches though, not my forté
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 16 June 2015, 11:31:12
I can do SMD soldering for a couple of boards if SMD soldering isn't covered. I won't do switches though, not my fort�

The PCBs that don't have SMD soldering done at the fab were only for people who wanted to DIY. Anyone who paid for assembly service was required to buy the component-assembled PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 16 June 2015, 13:04:40
If there are a few Canadians that just need switches soldered, I can help.

No lubing, spring swaps or stickers, ain't got time for that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 13:11:56
I'm not the greatest but i can help out as well if need be.

I'll solder switches, leds, swap springs (if people want) but i have no experience with lubing so count me out on that (as well as stickering but that's not that hard)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 16 June 2015, 13:46:23
I am willing to help out with assembling EU boards.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: AKmalamute on Tue, 16 June 2015, 14:08:16
In the 'many hands make like work' vein, is there a meetup near the west coast? I've built a few boards, am more than willing to solder some switches for a GB I'm not in ... once this is over, the R3 files can be released, and MK can sell me my one GH60.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 16 June 2015, 15:11:43
Thanks Apoc.  Given that the plates cost ~1/2 what we were charged for them, you'd think there would be more money left over from that part, even when factoring in shipping the parts.
No cost in shipping them either cause I drove them to TJ on my own dime...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: komar007 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:40:14
Guys,

first of all big thanks to Matt3o and BunnyLake (and others I don't know of (if any)) for their amazing help.
I'm so glad this is finally moving forward.
The orders that were to be shipped by me (EU + rest of the world) will be now handled by them. I'm sure they can do it much better than I would (if I ever got the chance to).


Let me add the missing info.
This is the invoice from pcbcart:
[attach=1]
As you can see, the the total cost of PCB manufacturing (+ assembly + components) was lower than the declared price of PCBs (but bear in mind that when I estimated the costs you paid, I took into account the import duties on the EU part of the boards, and these haven't been paid yet)
The shipping cost to the US was about $500 and to Poland ~$300 (on top of the invoice value).
Just saying, so that you don't happen to think that I underestimated the cost and we ended up paying more than I thought.

I have no idea why we ended having much less money than we should, but I hope this will get clear soon...
Anyway, the above values are the only costs I induced.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 16 June 2015, 17:05:59
thanks for the info komar

so so far less than 20k has been spent on parts for the gb

does anyone know how much was collected, was it posted anywhere
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: metafour on Tue, 16 June 2015, 17:34:06
It seems to me that the person who has the money needs to come in here and help clear this all up sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 16 June 2015, 17:40:56
So, per unit cost we're looking at:

PCB - $11 + shipping from supplier; original price $28
Plate - $8.26; original price $16
Stabilizers - $5.95 + shipping; original price $7 (Costar) or $9 (Cherry)
Switches - unknown per unit cost, but 7bit prices are ~$0.73 a unit; GB price $0.63 a unit

I don't know if PCB assembly was an additional cost on top of that $5k or if diodes, controllers, etc were included in that price, but I'm having a really hard time seeing how this GB could possibly be out of money when we're theoretically up approximately $15-20 per unit (unit being PCB/plate/switches/stabilizers) after subtracting a couple of bucks for the added shipping cost of various parts and banking/paypal fees. 

The only reason I could think we'd be hurting is if there were a bunch of unpaid orders that were bought anyways, prototype production costs were beyond obscene, someone was charging for firmware development, or some people took part of the funds and bailed.

Of course, this is all supposition and, like metafour said, it would be nice to have someone clear things up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 16 June 2015, 17:45:53
So, per unit cost we're looking at:

PCB - $11 + shipping from supplier; original price $28
Plate - $8.26; original price $16
Stabilizers - $5.95 + shipping; original price $7 (Costar) or $9 (Cherry)
Switches - unknown per unit cost, but 7bit prices are ~$0.73 a unit; GB price $0.63 a unit

I don't know if PCB assembly was an additional cost on top of that $5k or if diodes, controllers, etc were included in that price, but I'm having a really hard time seeing how this GB could possibly be out of money when we're theoretically up approximately $15-20 per unit (unit being PCB/plate/switches/stabilizers) after subtracting a couple of bucks for the added shipping cost of various parts and banking/paypal fees. 

The only reason I could think we'd be hurting is if there were a bunch of unpaid orders that were bought anyways, prototype production costs were beyond obscene, someone was charging for firmware development, or some people took part of the funds and bailed.

Of course, this is all supposition and, like metafour said, it would be nice to have someone clear things up.

yeah i should make clear

i dont know anything about numbers or costs other than what has just been posted by people

i was just adding those numbers up

im not trying to cause a problem or accuse anyone, just trying to work out what happened and why we are in this position so we can fix it

those numbers perhaps are not accurate, i remember a post from tj stating each of those things ran way over budget, and he is the man paying the invoices, he is obviously more in the know than i am

whatever happens, we all want the same end result, to get this sorted and the boards out to people

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: suicidal_orange on Tue, 16 June 2015, 18:14:39
I'd also be happy to solder some boards, this GB has been casting a shadow the whole time I've been here so it's nice to see it finally moving!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 16 June 2015, 18:19:33
I'm a soldering n00b, but I'm happy to:
A- solder some boards (will practice a lot first)
B- host a soldering/sorting/packing party here in Orlando. You can sleep on my couches/floor for free and maybe I'll grill something for you
C- help in any other way that's needed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 16 June 2015, 18:21:48
I'm a soldering n00b, but I'm happy to:
A- solder some boards (will practice a lot first)
B- host a soldering/sorting/packing party here in Orlando. You can sleep on my couches/floor for free and maybe I'll grill something for you
C- help in any other way that's needed.

damn i wish i was in orlando, i want grilled stuff
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 18:22:29

I'm a soldering n00b, but I'm happy to:
A- solder some boards (will practice a lot first)
B- host a soldering/sorting/packing party here in Orlando. You can sleep on my couches/floor for free and maybe I'll grill something for you
C- help in any other way that's needed.

damn i wish i was in orlando, i want grilled stuff

+1

Grilled stuff is good
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:08:55
I'm a soldering n00b, but I'm happy to:
A- solder some boards (will practice a lot first)
B- host a soldering/sorting/packing party here in Orlando. You can sleep on my couches/floor for free and maybe I'll grill something for you
C- help in any other way that's needed.

damn i wish i was in orlando, i want grilled stuff


I'm a soldering n00b, but I'm happy to:
A- solder some boards (will practice a lot first)
B- host a soldering/sorting/packing party here in Orlando. You can sleep on my couches/floor for free and maybe I'll grill something for you
C- help in any other way that's needed.

damn i wish i was in orlando, i want grilled stuff

+1

Grilled stuff is good

If you guys come visit I will grill you a big fat juicy steak (or something else dreamy), or smoke you a rack of ribs.  :-*  :-*  :-*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Tue, 16 June 2015, 23:23:19
which one of you pussies had to make a throw away account on reddit?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 23:28:44

I'm a soldering n00b, but I'm happy to:
A- solder some boards (will practice a lot first)
B- host a soldering/sorting/packing party here in Orlando. You can sleep on my couches/floor for free and maybe I'll grill something for you
C- help in any other way that's needed.

damn i wish i was in orlando, i want grilled stuff


I'm a soldering n00b, but I'm happy to:
A- solder some boards (will practice a lot first)
B- host a soldering/sorting/packing party here in Orlando. You can sleep on my couches/floor for free and maybe I'll grill something for you
C- help in any other way that's needed.

damn i wish i was in orlando, i want grilled stuff

+1

Grilled stuff is good

If you guys come visit I will grill you a big fat juicy steak (or something else dreamy), or smoke you a rack of ribs.  :-*  :-*  :-*

Too far. I'll go buy myself a steak and cry while pretending you made it for me

which one of you pussies had to make a throw away account on reddit?

Link?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 16 June 2015, 23:40:55

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3a2f71/help_question_about_funds_being_stolen_from_a/

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 17 June 2015, 00:30:16
which one of you pussies had to make a throw away account on reddit?

demik, I'm sure a lot of people have throw away accounts on reddit. If they are felines or not I don't know. But what are you referring to exactly as it seems you are upset about something?


https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3a2f71/help_question_about_funds_being_stolen_from_a/



Interesting, but I think it has been stated that there actually is some money left for shipping, but not as much as initially hoped. We're still waiting on exact numbers from the person with the information.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 17 June 2015, 01:48:45
We will disclose how much is left as soon as we receive the paypal transfer. I'm working on this on a daily basis, talking to all the involved parties and making sure the (very complex) puzzle fits. Please consider that my order has not even been registered, so I might not actually get my board.

I know 2 years passed, but the things seem to be finally moving again. I'm asking another little patience.

Just to be clear: I was in no way involved with the original group buy, I just stepped in few weeks ago to try to move the stagnating situation.

So far kudos go to: bunnylake (Murdock), samwisekoi (BA Baracus), komar (Faceman), myself (and if you don't get the reference you won't get your board :P)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Wed, 17 June 2015, 01:55:15
We will disclose how much is left as soon as we receive the paypal transfer. I'm working on this on a daily basis, talking to all the involved parties and making sure the (very complex) puzzle fits. Please consider that my order has not even been registered, so I might not actually get my board.

I know 2 years passed, but the things seem to be finally moving again. I'm asking another little patience.

Just to be clear: I was in no way involved with the original group buy, I just stepped in few weeks ago to try to move the stagnating situation.

So far kudos go to: bunnylake (Murdock), samwisekoi (BA Baracus), komar (Faceman), myself (and if you don't get the reference you won't get your board :P)

I love it when a plan comes together  :-*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 17 June 2015, 02:25:48
Sad to see that this GB derailed like this.  Glad I got out though lol.

GL to the guys working to finish this monster.  Wish I could offer some help soldering and whatnot but I sold my soldering kit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: DanielT on Wed, 17 June 2015, 02:45:02
We will disclose how much is left as soon as we receive the paypal transfer. I'm working on this on a daily basis, talking to all the involved parties and making sure the (very complex) puzzle fits. Please consider that my order has not even been registered, so I might not actually get my board.

I know 2 years passed, but the things seem to be finally moving again. I'm asking another little patience.

Just to be clear: I was in no way involved with the original group buy, I just stepped in few weeks ago to try to move the stagnating situation.

So far kudos go to: bunnylake (Murdock), samwisekoi (BA Baracus), komar (Faceman), myself (and if you don't get the reference you won't get your board :P)
So this leaves you as Colonel John "Hannibal" Smith . "Tam Tatam, Ta Ta Tam ..." even my 5 year daughter knows the theme song from A-Team, this and the Imperial March from Star Wars  :cool:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 17 June 2015, 06:24:13

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3a2f71/help_question_about_funds_being_stolen_from_a/

yeah this sort of post is ridiculous

at most, we can speculate as to whats going on, but we dont have final numbers, and making allegations like this is totally out of line before that happens

for people reading this ****, all i can say is this

everyone i have dealt with regarding this buy, has been very helpful, and committed to wanting to see it complete, regardless of whether they can make that happen themselves

there are a huge amount of moving parts to this, and seeing a couple of invoices is nowhere near the full story

i, like everyone else would love to work out what has happened, but throwing mud and threats is not the way to do it, under any circumstances

its pathetic pandering for attention from someone without enough guts to post it here, and without enough information

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: agor on Wed, 17 June 2015, 09:49:16
A HUGE THANKS to all of you involved resolving this!

@Matt3o: will you validate all addresses prior to EU shipping?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 June 2015, 10:46:49
Having funds passed through paypal a few times definitely takes account of some huge chunks of missing funds as they chomp their 4%. Really should be doing bank wires, as even crappy US banks generally only charge a flat fee for it that will be minuscule in comparison to paypal for larger sums.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:32:40
As for other costs I didn't mention in the previous post:
We paid about $800 for the rev. B prototypes.
I also bought some kilogram of white 3mm LEDs out of pocket and I'll be sending these along with the switches from 7bit.
According to my knowledge, the only missing part as far as the electronic internals are concerned is the LED resistors, which are ridiculously cheap and are best bought as late as possible, so that they don't have to be shipped over and over again.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:38:23
As for other costs I didn't mention in the previous post:
We paid about $800 for the rev. B prototypes.
I also bought some kilogram of white 3mm LEDs out of pocket and I'll be sending these along with the switches from 7bit.
According to my knowledge, the only missing part as far as the electronic internals are concerned is the LED resistors, which are ridiculously cheap and are best bought as late as possible, so that they don't have to be shipped over and over again.

i have a ton of those on hand anyway
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:44:16
As for other costs I didn't mention in the previous post:
We paid about $800 for the rev. B prototypes.
I also bought some kilogram of white 3mm LEDs out of pocket and I'll be sending these along with the switches from 7bit.
According to my knowledge, the only missing part as far as the electronic internals are concerned is the LED resistors, which are ridiculously cheap and are best bought as late as possible, so that they don't have to be shipped over and over again.

i have a ton of those on hand anyway

Now that I think about it, tjcaustin may have actually paid for these, and I paid duties or something, I don't remember now, so just in case I'll send them so they can be used for people's boards;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 17 June 2015, 14:13:54
It's good that things are moving again. Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kekstee on Thu, 18 June 2015, 05:55:45
I definately appreciate the recent updates. Hopefully this can move to a conclusion now. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: TDub on Thu, 18 June 2015, 11:19:52
Many thanks to the A-Team for getting this back on track :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 18 June 2015, 11:25:51
Many thanks to the A-Team for getting this back on track :)

Agreed.  And I finally feel like Murdoch about this GB:

(https://prawnandquartered.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/ateamsayuncleaffair122810-04.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: TDub on Fri, 19 June 2015, 02:56:31
So.... : https://www.massdrop.com/buy/kc60-mechanical-keyboard

Thoughts?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 19 June 2015, 02:57:04
So.... : https://www.massdrop.com/buy/kc60-mechanical-keyboard

Thoughts?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72944.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: fknraiden on Fri, 19 June 2015, 04:03:44
So i think its safe to assume that when these end up shipping, 80% will be on classifieds. I remember this GB being a big deal when it started, then like a dozen different 60%'s came out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Fri, 19 June 2015, 04:30:39
So i think its safe to assume that when these end up shipping, 80% will be on classifieds. I remember this GB being a big deal when it started, then like a dozen different 60%'s came out.

well if that will be the case, if someone (specially from EU) wants to sell me their pcb, I'm interested ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: TDub on Fri, 19 June 2015, 07:02:05
Prelim I can sell you one of mine (located in Germany). I ordered 5 (and 6 plates 3 iso and 3 ansi), but now I will most likely only build one with ansi plate at most. Just drop me a pm.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Fri, 19 June 2015, 08:33:30
Prelim I can sell you one of mine (located in Germany). I ordered 5 (and 6 plates 3 iso and 3 ansi), but now I will most likely only build one with ansi plate at most. Just drop me a pm.

pm'ed :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 19 June 2015, 11:11:17
woohoo!

the switches have been shipped to bunny! This is the very first step in reviving the GH60!

Now we wait for the remaining funds so we can unlock the boards that are still in China!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Fri, 19 June 2015, 11:23:34
lol

*ACHIVEMENT UNLOCK!*
Board BASH!
(Retrieve the GH60 cache from China)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 19 June 2015, 11:32:15
woohoo!

the switches have been shipped to bunny! This is the very first step in reviving the GH60!

Now we wait for the remaining funds so we can unlock the boards that are still in China!
I would guess that is just the Euro switches... right???
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 11:35:46
woohoo!

the switches have been shipped to bunny! This is the very first step in reviving the GH60!

Now we wait for the remaining funds so we can unlock the boards that are still in China!
I would guess that is just the Euro switches... right???

Yes, switches for orders in the EU+rest of the world + switches from 7bit marked with GH60 label whose destination was originally EU+rest of the world.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BrewCaps on Fri, 19 June 2015, 16:42:46
So i think its safe to assume that when these end up shipping, 80% will be on classifieds. I remember this GB being a big deal when it started, then like a dozen different 60%'s came out.

Does seem to be the case:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/kc60-mechanical-keyboard?mode=guest_open

Is this clone legal?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: AKmalamute on Fri, 19 June 2015, 17:16:03
Is this clone legal?

If you read the comments, the manufacturer is NKPC, or 'nobody knows; probably China." ... so, they're using Revision.B ... which has been out a while, and yes that's legal.

You guys are getting Rev.C, as has been pointed out before, which has some stuff changed to make sure everything is what it should be. Y'know, aside from timely.

 I'd get one from MD but I don't want a whole keyboard at this point ... just the PCB w/controller. So I'll be keeping an eye on the classifieds myself. Glad to see this GB moving!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 19 June 2015, 18:59:20
So i think its safe to assume that when these end up shipping, 80% will be on classifieds. I remember this GB being a big deal when it started, then like a dozen different 60%'s came out.

Does seem to be the case:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/kc60-mechanical-keyboard?mode=guest_open

Is this clone legal?
IIRC the GH60 is open source hardware, so yes, it is legal. The revision C sources were not released yet, though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: polarpigs on Fri, 19 June 2015, 21:06:50
My address changed again. College housing yknow. Should I RE-fill out that Google form or should I wait until the stuff is ready to ship?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 20 June 2015, 05:32:01
My address changed again. College housing yknow. Should I RE-fill out that Google form or should I wait until the stuff is ready to ship?

send me a PM
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: JBert on Sat, 20 June 2015, 07:45:39
Any news on whether we actually need fresh money?

At any rate, I consider paying extra to upgrade my shipping method from a simple envelope to something more sturdy if there's a better option for a few plates and PCBs. I haven't been waiting this long to see it get bent or broken in the mail...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 23 June 2015, 05:26:22
small update

i received all the switches from komar today, so we are on our way

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Tue, 23 June 2015, 05:36:49
Whey!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 23 June 2015, 06:46:11
That's great news BunnyLake!

that signature though (https://i.imgur.com/rH7gBZ2.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: thelectronicnub on Wed, 24 June 2015, 20:39:46
If need be, I'd be happy to help with US shipping once my MX Lock switch GB is done
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 25 June 2015, 12:03:37
just to keep folks updated

we are still waiting on the transfer of the money from TJ

once we have that we will be doing 2 things

we will have the non conus pcbs shipped to me from china (this postage is paid already but we cant action it until we have the money transfer so we can pay the import charges)
we will then be paying the shipping labels to have the US stuff shipped from TJ to someone else
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 25 June 2015, 12:34:19
Glad to hear things are progressing! Excellent updates! :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Thu, 25 June 2015, 12:44:44
Whey!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 03 July 2015, 18:22:56
Still waiting?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 03 July 2015, 18:43:33
Still waiting?

i am yeah, although admittedly gh (our main platform for communicating with everyone involved) has been down, so id call the last week a wash
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 03 July 2015, 22:43:10
Alright. Thanks, sir!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 04 July 2015, 02:58:33
I know GH was down for a week buthow long does it take to transfer funds?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 04 July 2015, 20:15:08
a minimum of 3 days; about twice that if it's international.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 05 July 2015, 09:34:09
two weeks have passed, but admittedly GH was down and then there's the Indipendence day week end. Let's see next week what brings.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 05 July 2015, 10:51:48
a minimum of 3 days; about twice that if it's international.
PayPal transfers take three days now?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 05 July 2015, 11:00:47
a minimum of 3 days; about twice that if it's international.
PayPal transfers take three days now?
Bank transfer instead now? It would cut down on the money that is taken every time, if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 05 July 2015, 12:06:15
Who said anything about a bank transfer? And if we're talking time then that (the transfer) could've been done the day they decided to transfer it. Skype really isnt that hard of a program to use.
It just feels like TJ is avoiding another situation, but that's just speculation. So whatever.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sun, 05 July 2015, 16:36:22
Yeah it takes 5mins to transfer money, no one "waits" for it?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Mon, 06 July 2015, 01:42:28
to be fair is is a bit of a pain in the ass and costly to send bank transfers to/from the US to private individuals, many banks in the US don't even advertise the service
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 06 July 2015, 01:44:01
but that's just speculation.

that
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 06 July 2015, 08:11:20
to end as much speculation this is whats happening to my knowledge

im expecting the money to come to me via paypal, its also my understanding that TJ doesnt have the money in paypal but a separate bank account possibly not linked to his paypal, so he needs to transfer it, then send it to me via paypal

until i hear different this is whats happening, but lets keep any speculation or negativity to a minimum so we can get this buy positive and back on track

i mentioned it earlier but right now the status is this

i have the non conus switches and leds etc on hand, the pcbs for non conus orders are in china, the postage has been paid on these, but we are waiting before having them shipped until i get the transfer, so i can pay the import fees on these

the plates, stabs and conus orders are on hand with tj, one i get the transfer, we will purchase shipping labels for these items to be sent to someone in the US, who will then send me the non conus plates and stabs, and either send the conus order, or send them to several people tho donate their time to either build or ship

the process should be relatively speedy once we have the transfer

the only road bump we have is this, i am in the process of moving house, and will shortly be having a baby, i didnt expect the transfer to take this long so from about the 20th of this month, until mid august im not gonna be around to much (limited internet access)

if i dont have the funds by sometime this week, i will most likely have to wait until about august 1st to have the non conus pcbs shipped to me, as ill have to send them to my new address and wont be actually there until august 1st, obviously nobody wants that many pcbs sat outside  a house i dont live in if the shipping takes longer than we would expect

as mentioned before, what with gh being down and july 4th etc, im not concerned about the late transfer, but fingers crossed it comes through soon

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 06 July 2015, 08:32:33
to be fair is is a bit of a pain in the ass and costly to send bank transfers to/from the US to private individuals, many banks in the US don't even advertise the service

Well I stand corrected, in the UK it takes me about 30 seconds to send a money transfer via my mobile! I didn't realise the US were that far behind.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 06 July 2015, 09:12:14
Right. As always your involvement is appreciated BunnyLake. Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to try to get this group buy sorted. And a thanks to anyone else involved.

There is much more to say, but I realize that it doesn't matter what I say anymore. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 06 July 2015, 13:35:15
just to let you guys know, i have been sent some money from tj, im told there is also more coming, but we got a good chunk, and ill have the pcbs sent on to me now its here
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 06 July 2015, 13:36:17
As Bunny said (ninjad) We've got money (at least some) but at least we can finally unlock the boards from China!

OHMY! This thing is finally moving!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 06 July 2015, 13:38:40
As Bunny said (ninjad) We've got money (at least some) but at least we can finally unlock the boards from China!

OHMY! This thing is finally moving!
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/5/54/20051214002236!Unlock-icon.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 06 July 2015, 13:39:58
As Bunny said (ninjad) We've got money (at least some) but at least we can finally unlock the boards from China!

OHMY! This thing is finally moving!

yeah very exciting, what i will do now the pcbs coming, is spend the next week or so going through the spread sheet, working out what orders i can ship with whats on hand, and then once they arrive, ill contact people and see if they want their pcb and switches shipped ahead of there plate, although i dont have the gb stabs here, i do actually have a couple thousand sets of stabs here so i can also include those, and just take them back when i get the stabs in
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: digi on Mon, 06 July 2015, 13:42:12
damn son, Matt & Bunny straight studs for this one.  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 06 July 2015, 15:09:59
Wow, awesome news! Please this is finally coming to fruition, just as my main driver is dying too
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 08 July 2015, 11:24:26
hey guys, i have paid the import duties on the non conus pcbs, they have left china and will be with me any day

i will start getting them turned around as soon as possible

and will take pics for everyone as soon as they arrive

this isnt going to be an instant process with this gb, there is a lot to organise, but i will certainly do my best to do my share in a very timely fashion, as well as help anyone else involved

what is going to take me a bit of time is going through the spreadsheet, sorting out my orders, and contacting people to make sure all info is still correct and up to date, so i will most likely split the orders up in to batches, and post them all here so people can see whats going on, so for example, if i have 100 orders, ill split em up in to 5 batches of 20, post all 5 batches up here with the names of each member in each, and then tackle them one batch at a time , and update the status of each persons order on that post as it progresses

ill make sure im as clear as possible and provide constant updates

although please be aware, i am in the process of moving house as ive mentioned earlier, so if there are a few times where im not online and updating as much as some of you would like, i apologise for this in advance, i know its not ideal timing, but at least we are getting this moving
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 08 July 2015, 11:44:41
Bun for Earth President!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 08 July 2015, 11:55:37
Bunny, you paid duties before I knew the boards left China...
This GB can't go wrong anymore.:D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 08 July 2015, 12:11:54
Bunny, you paid duties before I knew the boards left China...
This GB can't go wrong anymore.:D

haha yeah they text me, so i got it paid right away

dhl are good cause they let you know beforehand, whereas other companies notify you one they have them in the uk, but before they arrange delivery, so it can add a lot of time to shipping, but dhl do it in advance to make the shipping seamless
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BlueBär on Wed, 08 July 2015, 12:59:46
My prediction: GH60 will be finalized once we reach page 100 of this thread.

GO GO GO!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/I8kq0uJ.gif)



Welp, it's moving I guess. How do you plan on organzing the soldering helpers (okay, maybe it's a bit early to talk about that but whatever)?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Wed, 08 July 2015, 13:24:15
BunnyLake, you UK based? I'm also moving address at the end of the month so i assume i need to inform someone about this?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 08 July 2015, 13:28:08
BunnyLake, you UK based? I'm also moving address at the end of the month so i assume i need to inform someone about this?

yeah im in the UK
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (PRODUCTION)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 08 July 2015, 13:29:27
My prediction: GH60 will be finalized once we reach page 100 of this thread.

GO GO GO!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/I8kq0uJ.gif)



Welp, it's moving I guess. How do you plan on organzing the soldering helpers (okay, maybe it's a bit early to talk about that but whatever)?

if anybody wants to volunteer soldering work, please contact me via pm, and where possible, include your level of experience, and what you can commit to, both in terms of timescale, as well as number of units
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: joey on Wed, 08 July 2015, 14:14:35
Can we get some info on what soldering working is required?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: flabbergast on Wed, 08 July 2015, 14:20:12
Can we get some info on what soldering working is required?
Yes, I'd like to know this as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 08 July 2015, 14:27:36
Can we get some info on what soldering working is required?

Can we get some info on what soldering working is required?
Yes, I'd like to know this as well.

please read the original post of this thread, under the heading assembly
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: flabbergast on Wed, 08 July 2015, 14:55:40
please read the original post of this thread, under the heading assembly
Sure, but I meant whether you'll need help with the SMT stuff, or the "assembly service" for switches and LEDs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 08 July 2015, 15:59:25
please read the original post of this thread, under the heading assembly
Sure, but I meant whether you'll need help with the SMT stuff, or the "assembly service" for switches and LEDs.
SMT is already done, unless people specifically chose not to. The only thing that needs done is switches and LEDs..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 08 July 2015, 16:18:22
please read the original post of this thread, under the heading assembly
Sure, but I meant whether you'll need help with the SMT stuff, or the "assembly service" for switches and LEDs.
SMT is already done, unless people specifically chose not to. The only thing that needs done is switches and LEDs..

yeah

it would make no sense for someone to order a DIY version of the pcb, but then have it built up, i dont have the exact numbers to hand but the numbers of diy pcbs for non conus orders is extremely low

the building services as far as i know will literally be a case of switches and leds
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 08 July 2015, 16:51:54
I'm going to sell my two gh60s (spoken for currently) so I have time to solder a couple of Canadian orders. 

Switches and LEDs only, max of four boards.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 08 July 2015, 19:40:36
just ordered all my shipping supplies for this

getting quite excited now this is all moving along

me and matteo are looking in to getting the conus orders shipped from tj at the moment to someone in the US, as soon as i have an update on that ill of course post here, there are a ton of boxes so we need to price up a palette or a courier rather than sending them all individually but we shall get that all worked out and let you folks know soon, just because i keep saying non conus, doesnt mean that isnt a priority, after all, all the non conus plates and stabs are there
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nmur on Wed, 08 July 2015, 19:56:59
Just want to say: I wasn't around when this GB started, but I've been following the its status and the posts here for a month or two. However, I'm extremely impressed by the manner of how this GB was rejuvenated, and the sheer effort (and cash) that has come from the members who have gotten this thing moving again, despite the negativity from some posts.

It's people like you that keep the reliability instilled in participating in GBs here, and make this place the place that it is. If this GB went dead in the water, and became well known, I'm sure a lot of people would be avoiding other GBs in the future.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 July 2015, 20:06:04
If this GB went dead in the water, and became well known, I'm sure a lot of people would be avoiding other GBs in the future.

for the record, justified or not, this GB is already well-known for being a reason to avoid GBs
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Thu, 09 July 2015, 00:14:43
But this is GH, so nobody here cares. They care more to collect from every group buy and hoard a bunch of unnecessary ****.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: digi on Thu, 09 July 2015, 00:21:09
I care for Demik but I'm partial to Mexicans and blacks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Thu, 09 July 2015, 00:30:41
i... wat
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 09 July 2015, 00:36:14
I think digi has gone insane...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: digi on Thu, 09 July 2015, 00:39:14
I think digi has gone insane...

define "insane" =)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Thu, 09 July 2015, 00:41:05
by "gone insane" do you mean acting normal?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 09 July 2015, 00:42:37
I think digi has gone insane...

define "insane" =)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: digi on Thu, 09 July 2015, 00:43:22
I think digi has gone insane...

define "insane" =)

"hanging out the window, taking out some puto's" uhhhh...classic.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 09 July 2015, 03:23:38
Thanks to the guys getting this moving again. Your commitment is very much appreciated.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: eon on Thu, 09 July 2015, 04:54:02
Thanks Bunny for all the feed back
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 09 July 2015, 09:38:09
for everyone complaining, or talking about the mess this gb is or was or whatever, i really think people should get what happened in to context rather than making assumptions

the reason this got dragged out as long as it did, really isnt tj's fault, he was originally just meant to collect money, and itst my understanding, he accomplished that well

wfd dropping off the face of the earth is what caused many of the problems, because of this, certain things didnt get ordered, and at what point in to what was a very active members disappearance do you have to give up on him, whatever that time was, that wasnt tjs decision, so he isnt to blame for that delay in anyway, at some point, someone stepped up and had the plates made, and after that, the stabs were ordered through ivan, he got the wrong wires, again not tjs fault, and that caused more delays

i guess the parts have really only been on hand with tj for a couple months, so i guess, at most you could say he delayed it that long, but lets please look at the magnitude of the job at hand, and how much time it takes to tackle, when he committed to the extra tasks, we didnt know a timeline on when everything would be sorted, so just because everything started to line up, doesnt mean his schedule or personal life is ready for it etc

what i can say is this, matteo has done a lot of the talking with tj, but on the occasions i have dealt with him directly on this, he has been very helpful, and committed to sorting this out for everyone, even if that just meant organising handing it over

this isnt my gb, but even to me its frustrating seeing all the negativity, and this gb being held up as a reason to think negatively about gbs, things like this, its not run by companys, its run by community members, often with little to know experience, and the more people involved, the more issues that there are that can come up, and the more parts and suppliers that are involved, the more issues that can come up

when this gb went live, the pcb as we will come to know it hadnt even been really created yet, it hadnt even truly hit the proper beta stage

this isnt a gb thatll be fixed by one person, its taking lots of people to tackle this, and i cant imagine how stressful it would be trying to deal with this largely on my own

when all is said and done, once this is finally out to people, this shouldnt be remembered negatively, or as a group buy that has gone wrong, but as a mark of what we can accomplish when we come together as a community, that something can be created from scratch, and become known across several different communities, be imitated upon and built on from here

and before moaning about anyone else, think how hard it would be for you to commit to doing something, that will take a huge amount of time, that you cant even start doing for 2 - 3 more years from when you commit to it, peoples lives, schedules and priorities change in that period time

is short, lets stop all the bull****, and focus on the future, and this all being sorted, and all the cool new 60% set ups we are gonna see

 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 09 July 2015, 10:18:38
But this is GH, so nobody here cares. They care more to collect from every group buy and hoard a bunch of unnecessary ****.

Quoted for the ultimate truth.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: limitz on Thu, 09 July 2015, 10:46:11
I'd watch a "Hoarders: MK Edition".
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 09 July 2015, 10:49:24
I'd watch a "Hoarders: MK Edition".
I think I found the first candidate: :blank:
(https://i.imgur.com/8MRzg0c.jpg)

Sorry Hoff
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 09 July 2015, 10:58:42
I'd watch a "Hoarders: MK Edition".
I think I found the first candidate: :blank:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8MRzg0c.jpg)


Sorry Hoff

LOL.  It's not far off.  After my recent move, I was unpacking boxes - keyboards, dishes, keyboards, clothes, keyboards...etc.   :-[ 

I will say I'm fairly certain I'm not the worst one here though.  ;)
Title: .
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 09 July 2015, 11:47:53
.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 09 July 2015, 12:57:54
Hoff, you have a severe problem. And that problem is all of those caps are for MX switches. You need more Topre in your life. Or, at the very least, more Cherry/GMK and less SP.

I have plenty of Topre, Cherry, and GMK (and less SP than when this picture was taken).  No problems here.   ^-^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 09 July 2015, 13:19:37
No problems here.   ^-^
Obviously :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Rivello on Thu, 09 July 2015, 19:07:37
I feel like this group buy has turned into a coddling session.
Poor TJ,  it's not his fault,  yada yada. But the thing is that for the most part, yes,  it is.  When people began to question why he was silent or even BEG for an update, he stayed silent.  He wasn't so busy however that he couldn't spend hours on reddit posting classifieds or buying ridiculously expensive earbuds. 

There were times when you could see him lurking in the thread and not posting. Why do that?  Why go on a thread where people were obviously asking for any sort of update or plan and just stay mum?  Did he spend money he wasn't supposed to?  Why was the money even in personal bank account?  Why is only SOME transferred?  Why are there no invoices being shown clearly so we can see that someone hasn't been lining their pockets?

I'm tired of people wking and coddling. In the real world if anyone did this, they'd be taken to court.  You can't just sit on a pile of money and cut off communication and expect everyone to smile and nod.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 09 July 2015, 19:14:18
I feel like this group buy has turned into a coddling session.
Poor TJ,  it's not his fault,  yada yada. But the thing is that for the most part, yes,  it is.  When people began to question why he was silent or even BEG for an update, he stayed silent.  He wasn't so busy however that he couldn't spend hours on reddit posting classifieds or buying ridiculously expensive earbuds. 

There were times when you could see him lurking in the thread and not posting. Why do that?  Why go on a thread where people were obviously asking for any sort of update or plan and just stay mum?  Did he spend money he wasn't supposed to?  Why was the money even in personal bank account?  Why is only SOME transferred?  Why are there no invoices being shown clearly so we can see that someone hasn't been lining their pockets?

I'm tired of people wking and coddling. In the real world if anyone did this, they'd be taken to court.  You can't just sit on a pile of money and cut off communication and expect everyone to smile and nod.

firstly, if you are gonna post stuff like this and allegations against someone, perhaps do it on your real account, rather than hiding behind one you made today

secondly, where would you have liked him to keep the money, keeping large amounts of money in a paypal account is a terrible idea, a personal bank account is the safest place for it, id much rather that than in his mattress, id also assume that when he was collecting the money, he didnt expect to be sitting on it this long

thirdly, part of the reason im sure he stayed away, is because of posts like this im sure, which dont help anyone, i may not agree with how a lot of this was handled, but i think what we can all agree on is the fact we wanna get this sorted, and throwing around messages like that is not the way to do it

right now its all speculation, and until there is proof of wrongdoing, just slinging around mud doesnt get us anywhere

we would all like more info in to exactly what was going on, but just making **** up doesnt help that
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 09 July 2015, 19:20:20
can i also just say, im not here to coddle or sweep anything aside, but unless anyone has any evidence of wrongdoing, i dont think its acceptable to make accusations of it, right now, things are finally moving a long, but we still need TJ to cooperate, now i dont think for one moment he wouldnt cooperate, but people talking trash about him can certainly only hurt us trying to resolve all this

i for one was strongly pushing to work out what happened with all the money etc

we would all like some open discussion on this gb, but until that happens, or until we have a reason not to, why cant we just be a little positive and do and say things to help, rather than hinder the situation
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 09 July 2015, 20:13:28
I feel like this group buy has turned into a coddling session.
Poor TJ,  it's not his fault,  yada yada. But the thing is that for the most part, yes,  it is.  When people began to question why he was silent or even BEG for an update, he stayed silent.  He wasn't so busy however that he couldn't spend hours on reddit posting classifieds or buying ridiculously expensive earbuds. 

There were times when you could see him lurking in the thread and not posting. Why do that?  Why go on a thread where people were obviously asking for any sort of update or plan and just stay mum?  Did he spend money he wasn't supposed to?  Why was the money even in personal bank account?  Why is only SOME transferred?  Why are there no invoices being shown clearly so we can see that someone hasn't been lining their pockets?

I'm tired of people wking and coddling. In the real world if anyone did this, they'd be taken to court.  You can't just sit on a pile of money and cut off communication and expect everyone to smile and nod.

You've already made enough similar comments with your actual account, why bother making a duplicate for this post?   :confused:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 09 July 2015, 20:41:19
I feel like this group buy has turned into a coddling session.
Poor TJ,  it's not his fault,  yada yada. But the thing is that for the most part, yes,  it is.  When people began to question why he was silent or even BEG for an update, he stayed silent.  He wasn't so busy however that he couldn't spend hours on reddit posting classifieds or buying ridiculously expensive earbuds. 

There were times when you could see him lurking in the thread and not posting. Why do that?  Why go on a thread where people were obviously asking for any sort of update or plan and just stay mum?  Did he spend money he wasn't supposed to?  Why was the money even in personal bank account?  Why is only SOME transferred?  Why are there no invoices being shown clearly so we can see that someone hasn't been lining their pockets?

I'm tired of people wking and coddling. In the real world if anyone did this, they'd be taken to court.  You can't just sit on a pile of money and cut off communication and expect everyone to smile and nod.

You've already made enough similar comments with your actual account, why bother making a duplicate for this post?   :confused:
Doesn't making multiple accounts = ban?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 09 July 2015, 20:42:12
I feel like this group buy has turned into a coddling session.
Poor TJ,  it's not his fault,  yada yada. But the thing is that for the most part, yes,  it is.  When people began to question why he was silent or even BEG for an update, he stayed silent.  He wasn't so busy however that he couldn't spend hours on reddit posting classifieds or buying ridiculously expensive earbuds. 

There were times when you could see him lurking in the thread and not posting. Why do that?  Why go on a thread where people were obviously asking for any sort of update or plan and just stay mum?  Did he spend money he wasn't supposed to?  Why was the money even in personal bank account?  Why is only SOME transferred?  Why are there no invoices being shown clearly so we can see that someone hasn't been lining their pockets?

I'm tired of people wking and coddling. In the real world if anyone did this, they'd be taken to court.  You can't just sit on a pile of money and cut off communication and expect everyone to smile and nod.

You've already made enough similar comments with your actual account, why bother making a duplicate for this post?   :confused:
Doesn't making multiple accounts = ban?

= serious warning and potential ban
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Fri, 10 July 2015, 01:29:33
I feel like this group buy has turned into a coddling session.
Poor TJ,  it's not his fault,  yada yada. But the thing is that for the most part, yes,  it is.  When people began to question why he was silent or even BEG for an update, he stayed silent.  He wasn't so busy however that he couldn't spend hours on reddit posting classifieds or buying ridiculously expensive earbuds. 

There were times when you could see him lurking in the thread and not posting. Why do that?  Why go on a thread where people were obviously asking for any sort of update or plan and just stay mum?  Did he spend money he wasn't supposed to?  Why was the money even in personal bank account?  Why is only SOME transferred?  Why are there no invoices being shown clearly so we can see that someone hasn't been lining their pockets?

I'm tired of people wking and coddling. In the real world if anyone did this, they'd be taken to court.  You can't just sit on a pile of money and cut off communication and expect everyone to smile and nod.



i hope this wraps up soon, because you're ****ing annoying glissant.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 10 July 2015, 05:34:13
on a better note

the pcbs just arrived at my house

ill take some unboxing pics now and post them up here shortly

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Fri, 10 July 2015, 05:37:38
Holy **** that was quick! Can't wait for the pics :D.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Fri, 10 July 2015, 05:39:06
I'm not even a part of this GB, but i'm excited to see some pictures.

I think i'm just waiting for people to sell their stuff once they arrive because i want in on this haha
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 10 July 2015, 05:45:26
(http://i.imgur.com/WRoECPy.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fLNVeZd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rF8IZJV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/SNhswBV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mOlufJE.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Fri, 10 July 2015, 05:46:57
Whey!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: flabbergast on Fri, 10 July 2015, 05:48:58
Cool!  :thumb:

Well, if anyone wants to sell their PCB (from EU), I'd be happy to buy in ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 10 July 2015, 05:53:00
Show Image
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ill take some nice pics later but im in a bit of a mad rush today guys, but this weekend ill get more stuff sorted

and as of next week ill be able to get some of these out, starting with pcb only orders
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 10 July 2015, 06:46:12
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ugh, I forgot we got them in white... ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Fri, 10 July 2015, 06:51:02
The main reason I'm gonna plop a plate on that hahaha
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Norman_the_Owl on Fri, 10 July 2015, 07:18:46
I feel like this group buy has turned into a coddling session.
Poor TJ,  it's not his fault,  yada yada. But the thing is that for the most part, yes,  it is.  When people began to question why he was silent or even BEG for an update, he stayed silent.  He wasn't so busy however that he couldn't spend hours on reddit posting classifieds or buying ridiculously expensive earbuds. 

There were times when you could see him lurking in the thread and not posting. Why do that?  Why go on a thread where people were obviously asking for any sort of update or plan and just stay mum?  Did he spend money he wasn't supposed to?  Why was the money even in personal bank account?  Why is only SOME transferred?  Why are there no invoices being shown clearly so we can see that someone hasn't been lining their pockets?

I'm tired of people wking and coddling. In the real world if anyone did this, they'd be taken to court.  You can't just sit on a pile of money and cut off communication and expect everyone to smile and nod.

firstly, if you are gonna post stuff like this and allegations against someone, perhaps do it on your real account, rather than hiding behind one you made today
He didn't want to get banned by one of the mods high on power
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: John Fourth on Fri, 10 July 2015, 07:33:49
Great news about the PCBs! Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 10 July 2015, 07:45:53
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mOlufJE.jpg)


The design may be outdated by now, but I do love seeing that logo on a finished production Rev C board.  :D  I'm excited to see such progress here.  :thumb:


mods high on power

 ^-^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 10 July 2015, 07:48:13
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mOlufJE.jpg)


The design may be outdated by now, but I do love seeing that logo on a finished production Rev C board.  :D  I'm excited to see such progress here.  :thumb:




exactly this, im thrilled to finally have part of my order at least

im sending my gh60s around the globe so i can have one built by a bunch of different users
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: flabbergast on Fri, 10 July 2015, 07:56:11
The design may be outdated by now, but I do love seeing that logo on a finished production Rev C board.  :D  I'm excited to see such progress here.  :thumb:
Well looking at the 60% PCBs that are available now (the chinese and korean boards), it is actually equally good (capability-wise), and even has some advantages (like the possibility of individual control over backlight LEDs). (Well, if you want RGB strips on the bottom, then you need to go for the korean ones...)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 10 July 2015, 07:59:09
okay now let's see if we can get the boards in US moving
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 10 July 2015, 08:03:54
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mOlufJE.jpg)


The design may be outdated by now, but I do love seeing that logo on a finished production Rev C board.  :D  I'm excited to see such progress here.  :thumb:




exactly this, im thrilled to finally have part of my order at least

im sending my gh60s around the globe so i can have one built by a bunch of different users

That's awesome! Do you know where abouts it will be touring?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 10 July 2015, 09:39:12
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mOlufJE.jpg)


The design may be outdated by now, but I do love seeing that logo on a finished production Rev C board.  :D  I'm excited to see such progress here.  :thumb:




exactly this, im thrilled to finally have part of my order at least

im sending my gh60s around the globe so i can have one built by a bunch of different users

That's awesome! Do you know where abouts it will be touring?

not one board all over the place, but having several people build several boards

JD promised to do me one, matteo is gonnna build me one, margo of course will be, and ill work some more things out from there, im hoping once komar has more time i can talk him in to building one
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 10 July 2015, 10:26:33
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mOlufJE.jpg)


The design may be outdated by now, but I do love seeing that logo on a finished production Rev C board.  :D  I'm excited to see such progress here.  :thumb:




exactly this, im thrilled to finally have part of my order at least

im sending my gh60s around the globe so i can have one built by a bunch of different users

That's awesome! Do you know where abouts it will be touring?

not one board all over the place, but having several people build several boards

JD promised to do me one, matteo is gonnna build me one, margo of course will be, and ill work some more things out from there, im hoping once komar has more time i can talk him in to building one

ahhh ok I misunderstood haha I thought you where taking one board on a special all expenses paid trip around the globe to be built haha (what you said makes way more sense, but is way less fun...)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jorgenslee on Fri, 10 July 2015, 10:32:19
Nice to see it's going in a rapid rate... Hopefully US orders will be shipping soon as having bought an order from someone else equates to double of waiting time and double the excitement. I could offer my soldering service for free but due location I think that is not an option but right now moral support is all I can give. Kudos to all the people who have taken over, I could now see the light in the longest tunnel I have been. :)

On a side note, does someone from CONUS have spare PCB they are willing to let go? I bought a plate on impulse ages ago but didn't found matching pcb for it yet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 10 July 2015, 10:48:50
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mOlufJE.jpg)


The design may be outdated by now, but I do love seeing that logo on a finished production Rev C board.  :D  I'm excited to see such progress here.  :thumb:




exactly this, im thrilled to finally have part of my order at least

im sending my gh60s around the globe so i can have one built by a bunch of different users

That's awesome! Do you know where abouts it will be touring?

not one board all over the place, but having several people build several boards

JD promised to do me one, matteo is gonnna build me one, margo of course will be, and ill work some more things out from there, im hoping once komar has more time i can talk him in to building one

ahhh ok I misunderstood haha I thought you where taking one board on a special all expenses paid trip around the globe to be built haha (what you said makes way more sense, but is way less fun...)

haha, but yorus is a much better idea, if i had the bank roll for that i certainly would

we do however plan on having a bit of a brighton meetup at some point i should keep moaning at you to come to
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 10 July 2015, 11:02:29
haha, but yorus is a much better idea, if i had the bank roll for that i certainly would

we do however plan on having a bit of a brighton meetup at some point i should keep moaning at you to come to

who knows m8, im a bit shy irl, nerd4life and all that, but it would be cool to go for a few drinks with people and brighton is a place I still have to take my gf too!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: iAmAhab on Fri, 10 July 2015, 11:06:43
**** just got real
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 10 July 2015, 11:17:52
haha, but yorus is a much better idea, if i had the bank roll for that i certainly would

we do however plan on having a bit of a brighton meetup at some point i should keep moaning at you to come to

who knows m8, im a bit shy irl, nerd4life and all that, but it would be cool to go for a few drinks with people and brighton is a place I still have to take my gf too!

im looking to work out some time in like late august, and we are all ****ing nerds so nothing to be shy about, brighton is a lovely place in the summer

ill be able to put a few people up in my new place and hotels for a night here are cheap, good times to be had by all
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 10 July 2015, 11:22:10
haha, but yorus is a much better idea, if i had the bank roll for that i certainly would

we do however plan on having a bit of a brighton meetup at some point i should keep moaning at you to come to

who knows m8, im a bit shy irl, nerd4life and all that, but it would be cool to go for a few drinks with people and brighton is a place I still have to take my gf too!

im looking to work out some time in like late august, and we are all ****ing nerds so nothing to be shy about, brighton is a lovely place in the summer

ill be able to put a few people up in my new place and hotels for a night here are cheap, good times to be had by all

haha sounds like a plan, keep me updated when you get some dates worked out, weekends are best ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: joey on Fri, 10 July 2015, 13:29:13
Just don't make it 29/30th.. I would be down for other weekends for sure.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 10 July 2015, 14:49:25
Wow, those PCB's look hawt.  Props to Bunny, Matteo, et al. for all the legwork in getting this going again.

If anything, I think this GB is a testimony to the persistance of the community.  I mean, come on, look at all that's gone wrong, and yet people will still get their parts.  Yes, it took a while, but let's face it if it was most other forums it wouldn't have ever happened or would have been cancelled.

If I had one of those PCB's I would use that thing like a badge of honor.  "Look at this dope PCB that's been YEARS in the making.  Community designed and produced.  Multiple revisions.  Multiple continents.  Tons of obstacles.  I'm proud to be part of this community."
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: digi on Fri, 10 July 2015, 15:34:21
just when you thought the GH60 thread stopped giving..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 10 July 2015, 15:53:48
Just don't make it 29/30th.. I would be down for other weekends for sure.
I didn't want to say anything but I would also love to be a part of this, although I'm hugging everyone :3
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hoggy on Fri, 10 July 2015, 15:58:48
I'd forgotten it was dedicated to smallfry. Caused a sad moment.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 10 July 2015, 17:07:34
okay now let's see if we can get the boards in US moving
I'm ready when you boys are!!! I'll be on vacation end of july being of august!!!

Nothing but free time cause I'm not going anywhere  :p just watching the international!!!

Oh and I'm still down to drive all this to chicago to party and pack!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 11 July 2015, 04:57:08
Hi bunny, should I pm you my new address (august onwards) or should I contact someone else?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 11 July 2015, 10:03:40
Hi bunny, should I pm you my new address (august onwards) or should I contact someone else?

on that note

if there is anyone who would like to help on this gb, what would really really help me a ton, is if there was anyone out there who wanted to do some spreadsheet work for me, the current one is a nightmare of a google doc

right now finding a few hours to sit and tackle that spreadsheet without being interrupted is hard, if nobody wants to do it i of course will, but if anyone can be bothered, make a new nice clear sheet, with orders split firstly in to international and conus, and from there split in to builds and non builds, preferably in excel that would help me a ton to get on and actually tackle the distribution of this thing 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 11 July 2015, 10:45:58
Hi bunny, should I pm you my new address (august onwards) or should I contact someone else?

on that note

if there is anyone who would like to help on this gb, what would really really help me a ton, is if there was anyone out there who wanted to do some spreadsheet work for me, the current one is a nightmare of a google doc

right now finding a few hours to sit and tackle that spreadsheet without being interrupted is hard, if nobody wants to do it i of course will, but if anyone can be bothered, make a new nice clear sheet, with orders split firstly in to international and conus, and from there split in to builds and non builds, preferably in excel that would help me a ton to get on and actually tackle the distribution of this thing
Where is the spread sheet?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 11 July 2015, 11:14:14
Hi bunny, should I pm you my new address (august onwards) or should I contact someone else?

on that note

if there is anyone who would like to help on this gb, what would really really help me a ton, is if there was anyone out there who wanted to do some spreadsheet work for me, the current one is a nightmare of a google doc

right now finding a few hours to sit and tackle that spreadsheet without being interrupted is hard, if nobody wants to do it i of course will, but if anyone can be bothered, make a new nice clear sheet, with orders split firstly in to international and conus, and from there split in to builds and non builds, preferably in excel that would help me a ton to get on and actually tackle the distribution of this thing 

I'd give that a go for you chap - the only spreadsheet I can find though is this one:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit#gid=0

and that doesn't have any info about conus / international
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 12 July 2015, 16:35:48
Hi bunny, should I pm you my new address (august onwards) or should I contact someone else?

on that note

if there is anyone who would like to help on this gb, what would really really help me a ton, is if there was anyone out there who wanted to do some spreadsheet work for me, the current one is a nightmare of a google doc

right now finding a few hours to sit and tackle that spreadsheet without being interrupted is hard, if nobody wants to do it i of course will, but if anyone can be bothered, make a new nice clear sheet, with orders split firstly in to international and conus, and from there split in to builds and non builds, preferably in excel that would help me a ton to get on and actually tackle the distribution of this thing

why haven't you asked me, you silly?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 13 July 2015, 08:03:30
Bunny,

I'd be happy to take a crack at that excel stuff for you.
PM me if you still need some help
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: argcargv on Mon, 13 July 2015, 14:58:38
Anyone one have an extra PCB for sale? Please contact me. Thank you!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 13 July 2015, 15:21:30
Anyone one have an extra PCB for sale? Please contact me. Thank you!

There will be more than a few.  I'll probably be selling mine with Gaterons since I'm mite Alps/Topre than MX of late.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Willyc277 on Mon, 13 July 2015, 16:29:40
okay now let's see if we can get the boards in US moving
I'm ready when you boys are!!! I'll be on vacation end of july being of august!!!

Nothing but free time cause I'm not going anywhere  :p just watching the international!!!

Oh and I'm still down to drive all this to chicago to party and pack!!!

What part of Arkansas are you in? I'm in south Louisiana (Lafayette) and would love to lend a hand even if I'd just be helping pack. On break from uni and I work nights so I've got a little too much free time  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 14 July 2015, 06:31:44
hey guys, packing materials have all arrived (apart from parcel tape, i just ordered more today, i thought i had tons on hand but the wife has been rather liberal with it preparing for the move)

but i can start prepping orders and just seal them once more tape arrives

thanks for the offers on the sheet, ill speak to matteo and see if he can take it on, but if not ill contact some of you fine folks, i have a bit of a busy day today but ill try contact tj tonight and start working on a convenient time to arrange collection of everything he has
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 14 July 2015, 07:20:31
I'm currently unemployed and therefor have plenty time to straighten out the sheets as well, just let me know if you need me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 14 July 2015, 15:21:39
hey guys, packing materials have all arrived (apart from parcel tape, i just ordered more today, i thought i had tons on hand but the wife has been rather liberal with it preparing for the move)

but i can start prepping orders and just seal them once more tape arrives

thanks for the offers on the sheet, ill speak to matteo and see if he can take it on, but if not ill contact some of you fine folks, i have a bit of a busy day today but ill try contact tj tonight and start working on a convenient time to arrange collection of everything he has

Exciting times :)  Are the plates still in America?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: n0rvig on Tue, 14 July 2015, 17:32:01
It's so great to see this stuff moving! Keep up the good work Bunny, TJ, et al!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Tue, 14 July 2015, 23:37:59
Anyone one have an extra PCB for sale? Please contact me. Thank you!

Just wait for round 2 to start
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 15 July 2015, 06:57:58
i have to do some shipping this friday, so if anyone from outside conus wishes to have there pcb and switches shipped ahead of their plate and stabs, with the understanding they would have to pay shipping for the plate and stabs once they arrive here, im happy to get your order sent out this friday

please pm me no later than this time tomorrow
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 15 July 2015, 10:49:15
everyone who has contacted me today

your orders are packed and ready to go

matteo is also as we speak working on a new spreadsheet for me, once i have that, ill be splitting the orders in to batches, and posting those batches here so people can see where in line they are with shipping etc
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: AKmalamute on Wed, 15 July 2015, 11:21:21
Just wait for round 2 to start

There you go, Demik. Being Demik. Now I understand the hype.

Hey, everyone, it's Demik!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 15 July 2015, 11:48:45
Just wait for round 2 to start

There you go, Demik. Being Demik. Now I understand the hype.

Hey, everyone, it's Demik!

Round 2 will be much faster and easier.  Just pay your money and, instead of waiting, I'll give you a swift kick to the balls and be done with it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 15 July 2015, 13:04:39
we cleaned up the original convulsed spreadsheet. It took more time than I anticipated but now bunny has something to work on.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Wed, 15 July 2015, 13:34:28
No one has told me who I contact about the change of shipping address?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: duq on Wed, 15 July 2015, 16:42:35
No one has told me who I contact about the change of shipping address?

PM Matt3o. That's what I did. :).

Also, thanks to everyone oiling this bish up and getting it going!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:09:52
No one has told me who I contact about the change of shipping address?

it depends where you live as to who is shipping it etc, for instance i now have my own spreadsheet to work from that isnt the public one, but if you are from the US for instance, telling me wont do a lot of good if somebody intends to work from the other one etc

in short, right now we are just getting our teeth in to this, its gonna take a little bit of time for us to all get together and work out some of the ins and outs on whos taking care of what

personally i will be confirming every address of every order i ship before  i ship it
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:33:00
You'll be shipping mine Bunny as im in the UK so if you're confirming all address' thats fine ill wait. (Moving in 2 weeks)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:35:53
You'll be shipping mine Bunny as im in the UK so if you're confirming all address' thats fine ill wait. (Moving in 2 weeks)

i have the new spread sheet me and matteo have jsut put together,

what im gonna do over the next few days is split it in to batches, most likely 5, then ill contact people a batch at a time as im getting ready to pack those order, confirm the order and the address with you, and then get them out, i cant speak for how others will work, but thats what ill do with the non conus orders, as so many changes have been made and so much time has been passed, we dont know whats been fixed and what hasnt, so im just gonna literally confirm everything haha
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: osxoep on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:47:58
Does the new spreadsheet include orders that were taken over?

I took one over in addition to my original order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:59:04
Does the new spreadsheet include orders that were taken over?

I took one over in addition to my original order.

from what im told, we worked form the most up to date sheet

that being said, again ill be confirming everything as i go through, so if anything like that comes up, we will be able to catch it
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Wed, 15 July 2015, 20:24:55
Just wait for round 2 to start

There you go, Demik. Being Demik. Now I understand the hype.

Hey, everyone, it's Demik!

demik*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 16 July 2015, 06:44:52
can you fū*!&g believe it?!

(http://i.imgur.com/0vc1tvb.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Zz5vuSD.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 16 July 2015, 06:49:28
can you fū*!&g believe it?!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0vc1tvb.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Zz5vuSD.jpg)

Mad jelly
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 16 July 2015, 07:54:31
can you fū*!&g believe it?!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0vc1tvb.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Zz5vuSD.jpg)


No. You must have pretty good Photoshop skills.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 16 July 2015, 07:57:20
you shall see lots more showing up soon, a good amount are going out tomorrow

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:58:00
can you fū*!&g believe it?!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0vc1tvb.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Zz5vuSD.jpg)


(http://verastic.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Fainting-GIF.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 16 July 2015, 09:04:42
can someone explain me what the "expansion module", "poker arrows" and "WASD" little holes (is that even in the right place) are for? soz for the noobieness  :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 16 July 2015, 09:08:48
can someone explain me what the "expansion module", "poker arrows" and "WASD" little holes (is that even in the right place) are for? soz for the noobieness  :-[

Explaination for poker arrows, the poker X had the arrows keys in that position :
http://i.imgur.com/IUxeH.jpg

Not idea about the rest.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 16 July 2015, 09:10:48
lol, I understood the positions of course... I don't know is what the little holes are for, to solder resistances?!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Dsan on Thu, 16 July 2015, 10:12:31
When I placed my order 2 years ago I was planning on soldering the board myself but now I'm not sure I can..
Would it be too much trouble to have it assembled?Of course I would pay for that on top of the donation to get all of this sorted.
Also,in case that's not possible,since I also have to receive the Toxic keyset if you want to save the GB's shipping money Bunny,you can combine the two orders :)
Thank you guys for all the hard work!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 16 July 2015, 10:14:21
can you fū*!&g believe it?!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0vc1tvb.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Zz5vuSD.jpg)

Is this the real life?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 16 July 2015, 11:28:42
lol, I understood the positions of course... I don't know is what the little holes are for, to solder resistances?!

Those should be for resistors, correct (since those are the positions that support LEDs).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 16 July 2015, 11:41:05
lol, I understood the positions of course... I don't know is what the little holes are for, to solder resistances?!

Those should be for resistors, correct (since those are the positions that support LEDs).

thanks Hoff,

but isn't the entire pcb compatible with leds on an individual switch level?! soz if it's a dumb question :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 16 July 2015, 11:45:51
lol, I understood the positions of course... I don't know is what the little holes are for, to solder resistances?!

Those should be for resistors, correct (since those are the positions that support LEDs).

thanks Hoff,

but isn't the entire pcb compatible with leds on an individual switch level?! soz if it's a dumb question :/

The exact details are escaping my mind right now, but IIRC it's not wired for full-LED without the LED expansion module.  The expansion module adds either hardware (controller) or something similar to accommodate.  But as I said, this is *not* official information and is from memory (a 2 year old memory, at that :P ).  Someone please correct or confirm!  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: DanielT on Thu, 16 July 2015, 12:11:25
Damn this is for real !!!! I wanted a GH60 since I started with the keyboards stuff, I have to get my hands on one PCB :) My 60% collection wouldn't be complete without a GH60 .
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: DanielT on Thu, 16 July 2015, 12:16:32
To make it short I'm interested in one PCB ;) when these will start to arrive. I dream to have a board with a special layout I saw only once on Ivan's GH60 :)
Title: .
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 16 July 2015, 13:23:27
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: AKmalamute on Thu, 16 July 2015, 13:49:39
The PCB has holes [...] It will be up to the user to determine a workaround to get all other LEDs working.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're telling me this board isn't done?!?

I think this calls for a complete overhaul of the entire concept! Re-do the board, everything!

Don't you all agree?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 16 July 2015, 13:51:09
I quickly assembled a GH60 keyboard to verify the that PCBs are actually working.

Here I present to you my first GH60 keyboard with a prezzy crazy layout (that's what custom keyboards are for, right?)

(http://i.imgur.com/qGMnNBY.jpg)

I found that the pads are a bit harder to solder than I'm used to, but nothing too bad. Probably the 2 yo PCBs started to oxidate, but anyway it is working. I'll make some more tests, but I believe it's a go.

I'm said shipping will start tomorrow.
Title: .
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 16 July 2015, 13:53:58
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: AKmalamute on Thu, 16 July 2015, 13:56:56
But yes, let's burn all the PCBs, and start from scratch.

<cracks open an ice cold can of STFU, and takes a sip>
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 16 July 2015, 14:12:23
/starting engines for rev.D GB! "dedicated to the memory of GH60 rev.C"  :)) :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 16 July 2015, 15:10:39
/starting engines for rev.D GB! "dedicated to the memory of GH60 rev.C"  :)) :))

/ROFL
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Thu, 16 July 2015, 15:55:06
Anyone one have an extra PCB for sale? Please contact me. Thank you!

Just wait for round 2 to start

****ING CALLED IT
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 17 July 2015, 03:33:18
I tried to burn a new firmware and make same changes to hasu's code. Everything's working properly. Go ahead. Realese the Kraken!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pexon on Fri, 17 July 2015, 04:45:01
How hard is it to solder the controller with the oxidized pads
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 17 July 2015, 05:04:53
clean the board with isopropyl alcohol, splash some liquid flux and you are good to go. they are just a pinch harder to solder than I'm used to. Lead doesn't flow as well as I would expect, but totally feasible.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pexon on Fri, 17 July 2015, 05:14:23
OK, cool, cheers Matt. I think maybe I should have gotten the pre-built, as time is a little more sparse than it was when I ordered it. I will set a few hours aside one of the evenings to do it, should be easy as long as the solder takes then
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 17 July 2015, 08:49:37
sent the first batch of orders out today

this sunday ive set aside some time to split the remaining orders in to batches, once i have done that ill post them here, and then starting contacting users in each batch 1 by 1
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 17 July 2015, 08:50:48
sent the first batch of orders out today

 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

It's happening!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Fri, 17 July 2015, 09:15:41
clean the board with isopropyl alcohol, splash some liquid flux and you are good to go. they are just a pinch harder to solder than I'm used to. Lead doesn't flow as well as I would expect, but totally feasible.
I didn't realize I was soldering on the controller. This will be fun. :)

Good think I have been practicing my smd work recently.
Title: .
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 17 July 2015, 10:05:13
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 17 July 2015, 10:12:48
the expansion board that komar007 was working on should allow the usage of all the leds.
the pcb board is complete based on the goals of the project originally.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Fri, 17 July 2015, 11:43:37
You won't be, I imagine. A very small number of people ordered raw PCBs to solder things together on their own. Everyone else will have a PCB with all SMD soldering already done.

One of the boards I got was a DIY board, so I expect I will probably have to do all the smd work on it...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: thegagne on Fri, 17 July 2015, 11:53:17
Looked back a few pages, maybe we can just bump the status of the US orders?

Something about ApocalypseMaow taking them over... maybe we can expect to receive in the next couple months?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 17 July 2015, 12:41:55
GH60 and R5 both rumbling to life and moving toward completion... what a time to be alive!  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Fri, 17 July 2015, 13:50:55
I wouldn't expect any modules, and I do hope the software is polished to buggery as its been sometime since this all started!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Sat, 18 July 2015, 05:56:05
Good post day today, GH60 pcbs :D.

(http://i.imgur.com/JMwlUn8.png)

Thanks all, so super happy right now.


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: DanielT on Sat, 18 July 2015, 09:00:35
Nice :) I must get one of these ! :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Sat, 18 July 2015, 10:30:58
One down, next up is the funky bottom row version :D.

(http://i.imgur.com/Nmuorei.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 18 July 2015, 10:33:21
One down, next up is the funky bottom row version :D.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Nmuorei.jpg)

Interesting build!

Are those tactile Greys?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Sat, 18 July 2015, 13:10:42
Nixdorf blacks, with a clicky clear Esc and locking switch in the space to the right of the right shift.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 18 July 2015, 13:12:38
One down, next up is the funky bottom row version :D.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Nmuorei.jpg)

Which caps are you planning to put on there?

It's been so long. I've actually forgotten what I had planned for mine now. I seem to remember wanting to do an ISO board with SAG caps.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Sat, 18 July 2015, 13:27:46
 :eek: :eek: wow @Hzza, fantastic those nixdorfs, that's what I wanted to do as well... don't even know if I'll be able to get vintage blacks to built my GH60.

is that a clear stem on spacebar?! DONT  :mad:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 18 July 2015, 13:45:09
is that a clear stem on spacebar?! DONT  :mad:
I'd guess it's a linear MX white ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Sat, 18 July 2015, 14:28:18
Indeed, the spacebar is a linear white. I've got WoB doubleshots that I could put on it, or even BoW (http://i.imgur.com/tMQrpDy.jpg)...I'll probably be chucking the caps from my FaceU on it so it'll look basically like this.

(http://i.imgur.com/vM2OyYu.jpgp).

With a bit of luck I'll get it programmed tonight and should be up and running by tomorrow :D.

edit - I had to tweak TMK a little to get an ISO keymap working, see below for keymap and keymap_common (note - this has a split backspace and right shift. Also, I'm not an expert by any means, but this is what I'm currently working on and seems to be doing fine...Also, its WIP, once I've got it confirmed I'll post it somewhere people will actually see it...Oh, and I've had a few beers...).

keymap_common
Code: [Select]
#define KEYMAP_ISO( \
    K00, K01, K02, K03, K04, K05, K06, K07, K08, K09, K0A, K0B, K0C, K0D, K49,\
    K10, K11, K12, K13, K14, K15, K16, K17, K18, K19, K1A, K1B, K1C, K1D, \
    K20, K21, K22, K23, K24, K25, K26, K27, K28, K29, K2A, K2B, K2C, K2D, \
    K30, K31, K32, K33, K34, K35, K36, K37, K38, K39, K3A, K3B, K3D, K3C, \
    K40, K41, K42,           K45,                     K4A, K4B, K4C, K4D  \
) KEYMAP( \
    K00, K01, K02, K03, K04, K05, K06, K07, K08, K09, K0A, K0B, K0C, K0D, \
    K10, K11, K12, K13, K14, K15, K16, K17, K18, K19, K1A, K1B, K1C, K1D, \
    K20, K21, K22, K23, K24, K25, K26, K27, K28, K29, K2A, K2B, K2C, K2D, \
    K30, K31, K32, K33, K34, K35, K36, K37, K38, K39, K3A, K3B, K3C, K3D, \
    K40, K41, K42,           K45,                K49, K4A, K4B, K4C, K4D  \
)
keymap
Code: [Select]
KEYMAP_ISO(
   ESC, 1,   2,   3,   4,   5,   6,   7,   8,   9,   0,   MINS,EQL,  BSPC, GRV,\
           TAB, Q,   W,   E,   R,   T,   Y,   U,   I,   O,   P,   LBRC,RBRC, BSLS,     \
           CAPS,A,   S,   D,   F,   G,   H,   J,   K,   L,   SCLN,QUOT,NUHS,  ENT,     \
           LSFT,NUBS,Z,   X,   C,   V,   B,   N,   M,   COMM,DOT, SLSH, RSFT, FN0,     \
           LCTL ,LGUI,LALT,          SPC,                     RALT,RGUI, APP, RCTL),
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 18 July 2015, 18:38:52
Nixdorf blacks, with a clicky clear Esc and locking switch in the space to the right of the right shift.
:eek: I think I have to correct myself from interesting build to impressive build!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heeliqin on Sat, 18 July 2015, 19:37:32
Delivery address change, has been submitted
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: chromatically on Sun, 19 July 2015, 09:45:46
Indeed, the spacebar is a linear white. I've got WoB doubleshots that I could put on it, or even BoW (http://i.imgur.com/tMQrpDy.jpg)...I'll probably be chucking the caps from my FaceU on it so it'll look basically like this.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vM2OyYu.jpgp)
.

With a bit of luck I'll get it programmed tonight and should be up and running by tomorrow :D.

edit - I had to tweak TMK a little to get an ISO keymap working, see below for keymap and keymap_common (note - this has a split backspace and right shift. Also, I'm not an expert by any means, but this is what I'm currently working on and seems to be doing fine...Also, its WIP, once I've got it confirmed I'll post it somewhere people will actually see it...Oh, and I've had a few beers...).

keymap_common
Code: [Select]
#define KEYMAP_ISO( \
    K00, K01, K02, K03, K04, K05, K06, K07, K08, K09, K0A, K0B, K0C, K0D, K49,\
    K10, K11, K12, K13, K14, K15, K16, K17, K18, K19, K1A, K1B, K1C, K1D, \
    K20, K21, K22, K23, K24, K25, K26, K27, K28, K29, K2A, K2B, K2C, K2D, \
    K30, K31, K32, K33, K34, K35, K36, K37, K38, K39, K3A, K3B, K3D, K3C, \
    K40, K41, K42,           K45,                     K4A, K4B, K4C, K4D  \
) KEYMAP( \
    K00, K01, K02, K03, K04, K05, K06, K07, K08, K09, K0A, K0B, K0C, K0D, \
    K10, K11, K12, K13, K14, K15, K16, K17, K18, K19, K1A, K1B, K1C, K1D, \
    K20, K21, K22, K23, K24, K25, K26, K27, K28, K29, K2A, K2B, K2C, K2D, \
    K30, K31, K32, K33, K34, K35, K36, K37, K38, K39, K3A, K3B, K3C, K3D, \
    K40, K41, K42,           K45,                K49, K4A, K4B, K4C, K4D  \
)
keymap
Code: [Select]
KEYMAP_ISO(
   ESC, 1,   2,   3,   4,   5,   6,   7,   8,   9,   0,   MINS,EQL,  BSPC, GRV,\
           TAB, Q,   W,   E,   R,   T,   Y,   U,   I,   O,   P,   LBRC,RBRC, BSLS,     \
           CAPS,A,   S,   D,   F,   G,   H,   J,   K,   L,   SCLN,QUOT,NUHS,  ENT,     \
           LSFT,NUBS,Z,   X,   C,   V,   B,   N,   M,   COMM,DOT, SLSH, RSFT, FN0,     \
           LCTL ,LGUI,LALT,          SPC,                     RALT,RGUI, APP, RCTL),

love that BoW. very beautiful board!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: billnye on Sun, 19 July 2015, 10:08:06
One down, next up is the funky bottom row version :D.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Nmuorei.jpg)

Nice nixies hzza :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Sun, 19 July 2015, 10:17:42
can't see any info for the rev.C firmware/how to flash, on the original post... is there any already?

just saw for rev.B here: https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/tree/master/keyboard/gh60
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: bugsaint on Sun, 19 July 2015, 10:20:35
Huge credit to those getting this GB going again.  However after such a long time I've already resigned to the fact I'll never see any actual results, furthermore my enthusiasm in all things keyboards, customs and key caps  has waned having moved in to other interests.... I just don't know what to do with my order...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 19 July 2015, 10:32:41
I can wait on mine. Im not in a rush.

I ordered mine with the assembly service. Will it still be assembled?

I actually dont mind if its assembled. But, I'd actually prefer it unassembled.

Considering how long this gb took, I actually got my soldering skills up to a decent level from when this gb started to where it is now.

Should I just pm Bunny on this?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 19 July 2015, 10:37:07
I can wait on mine. Im not in a rush.

I ordered mine with the assembly service. Will it still be assembled?

I actually dont mind if its assembled. But, I'd actually prefer it unassembled.

Considering how long this gb took, I actually got my soldering skills up to a decent level from when this gb started to where it is now.

Should I just pm Bunny on this?

its no problem to change to unassembled good sir

shortly ill be posting batches of orders, and then contacting people to confirm orders and addresses, so at that stage, just let me know thats what you want at the time
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 19 July 2015, 11:43:02
I can wait on mine. Im not in a rush.

I ordered mine with the assembly service. Will it still be assembled?

I actually dont mind if its assembled. But, I'd actually prefer it unassembled.

Considering how long this gb took, I actually got my soldering skills up to a decent level from when this gb started to where it is now.

Should I just pm Bunny on this?

its no problem to change to unassembled good sir

shortly ill be posting batches of orders, and then contacting people to confirm orders and addresses, so at that stage, just let me know thats what you want at the time
Great! Thanks, Bunny!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 19 July 2015, 12:34:10
Sweeet, GREAT to see the final build! My rev A is stoked to see other GH60s!  ;D  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 19 July 2015, 13:48:03
I quickly assembled a GH60 keyboard to verify the that PCBs are actually working.

Here I present to you my first GH60 keyboard with a prezzy crazy layout (that's what custom keyboards are for, right?)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/qGMnNBY.jpg)


I found that the pads are a bit harder to solder than I'm used to, but nothing too bad. Probably the 2 yo PCBs started to oxidate, but anyway it is working. I'll make some more tests, but I believe it's a go.

I'm said shipping will start tomorrow.
 

That is one damned fine colorway. Can't wait to see how it looks in SA.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 20 July 2015, 07:54:22
batch 1
soulhunter
dr. marv
kyesarri
wraul
phetto
bimbobb
luke
frukstund
dirge
gropingmantis
winther
razer1987
mr.bean
simkev
tit
plaskboks

batch 2
aleksander
asura
evert
4li4z
osxoep
multipla
zoidbergslo
tradet
forestfunk
xauser
hankz
jmneuv
pexon
sth
vardhana
hirsti
lordbadger
isman

batch 3
freester
kennyr
reality404
edrago
lumune
wanzago
jbert
nickwalt
fabspeed
gruener_salat
ter_
selektam
battletux
caaaarrrt

batch 4
cyberwave
komar007
kekstee
pasph
cyanogenoid
limmy
georgek
paperdollman
dsan
kaiserreich
eon
pix3l_fodder
hasu
laggy_gaga
realex
hellerbarde
damorgue
niall
paranopid

batch 5
wlly
pixelscript
iamahab
tdub
kurrk
4814
guilleguillaume
maxmalkav
bear95
korne
batmann
txepox
mauri
acanthopis
adagio
flamingchook
broadmonkey
v4mp1
photekq
feature
mikelittoris
tams
neal
dgsbllx
tinlong117
relcc
aranair
agodinhost
tai92
dzeams
jonesless85

batch 6
mm87
nask
vorn
plater
hoggy
bvtton
soctongball21
mkaito
bugsaint
lechnerde
emonkak
gallenos7
kmynis
midg1t
netdevil
agor
raphdu57
zenuty
stoic-lemon
snoozeymon
mickd
hiya
robstero
laladila
alexjp
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: osxoep on Mon, 20 July 2015, 08:30:21
itshappening.gif
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 20 July 2015, 08:51:50
Are these the batches that have gone out already, will go out shortly, EU batches,...?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: agor on Mon, 20 July 2015, 08:52:51
Whee, I'm actually in one of this batches. Is there any word on who might be doing the assembly for EU orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 20 July 2015, 09:09:14
Those arent all the batches right?
if so I'm not on it..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Mon, 20 July 2015, 09:14:13
WOOP! Batch 6  :p Looking forward to confirmation and processing!! Well done to all the champs bringing this GB home!  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 20 July 2015, 09:32:24
Some names in that list I have not seen in forever o7
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 20 July 2015, 10:19:08
Some names in that list I have not seen in forever o7

My thoughts exactly.  This is becoming a blast from the past.  :|
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tradet on Mon, 20 July 2015, 10:45:30
Batch 2! I'm so excited!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 20 July 2015, 10:52:30
Hey Bunny, just wanna say thank you for really helping pull the GB forward and getting the EU orders out! :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 20 July 2015, 11:10:32
Nice to see this moving finally. Any progress for the USA?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 20 July 2015, 11:16:04
Nice to see this moving finally. Any progress for the USA?

we have arranged someone to receive the US stuff, we just need to arrange a courier service to pick it up from TJ, right now im in the process of moving, ill be in the new house and sorted in about 10 days, so until then my time is extremely limited, im doing what i can when i can, but itll be about 10 - 14 days until i am able to tackle this 100%, including sorting stuff in the US

 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 20 July 2015, 11:29:59
Good stuff. Looking forward to getting it at long last. Thanks to those involved for all the hard work.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 20 July 2015, 11:37:31
Hey bunny, I took over an order and was wondering if it's actually mentioned in the lists you got from the other guys
I took over Numerus (or something) his order, I myself am from EU
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 20 July 2015, 11:43:46
Hey bunny, I took over an order and was wondering if it's actually mentioned in the lists you got from the other guys
I took over Numerus (or something) his order, I myself am from EU

im only working from the list i have man

those are the names in the batches i have for EU orders, if you took over your order from someone in the EU, and their name is up there, contact them and get them to contact me and confirm the change etc
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:38:42
bunny, did you checked pms? (sent yesterday btw)

thanks in advance  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:46:00
Sorry to waste your time, but are those ALL the EU orders? Or just the first batches?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:50:00
bunny, did you checked pms? (sent yesterday btw)

thanks in advance  :thumb:

i guess not, i may have missed some, once again, im in the process of moving so not really online much right now

Sorry to waste your time, but are those ALL the EU orders? Or just the first batches?

that is all of the ones on the form i was given

that isnt to say that is all of them, and that there are not mistakes, im just working from what i was given, i havent been a part of this gb at any point, so im not privy to all the changes etc right now, what i can say is that i will be confirming every single order, and if im missing any info, or if there are mistakes, i will get it ironed out

right now its a case of one step at a time, if anybody feels they should be included that isnt, it wont be an issue to work out why and confirm details and get them added to the list etc

please just bare with me for 10 - 14 days whilst im moving house so i can sit down and properly get on top of all this
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 20 July 2015, 12:57:29
as a PS to that post, ill post the list of names i have leftover for conus orders etc either tonight or tomorrow, so that way we may find the odd missing name and the US folks can see that they havent been missed as well, and hopefully from there we can get everything ironed out with transferred orders and whatnot

once again, please just gimme a chance to get on top of this, its a big task to take on and for the most part im walking in blind
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 20 July 2015, 16:00:22
I originally took over one of the unpaid orders (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jkoS8UjR9ufSjokrJgz96HgO4R8IFQ7Vi1WuPvOjbjM/edit#gid=0) and I'm not on the list. Make sure you don't send out PCBs to people who didn't pay... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 20 July 2015, 16:05:45
I originally took over one of the unpaid orders (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jkoS8UjR9ufSjokrJgz96HgO4R8IFQ7Vi1WuPvOjbjM/edit#gid=0) and I'm not on the list. Make sure you don't send out PCBs to people who didn't pay... :rolleyes:

@BlueBar: I took over one of those orders also, and I have yet to ever see any visual confirmation of that other than my paypal receipt. I do also have an original order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 20 July 2015, 16:09:58
I originally took over one of the unpaid orders (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jkoS8UjR9ufSjokrJgz96HgO4R8IFQ7Vi1WuPvOjbjM/edit#gid=0) and I'm not on the list. Make sure you don't send out PCBs to people who didn't pay... :rolleyes:

I originally took over one of the unpaid orders (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jkoS8UjR9ufSjokrJgz96HgO4R8IFQ7Vi1WuPvOjbjM/edit#gid=0) and I'm not on the list. Make sure you don't send out PCBs to people who didn't pay... :rolleyes:

@BlueBar: I took over one of those orders also, and I have yet to ever see any visual confirmation of that other than my paypal receipt. I do also have an original order.

i can only work with what ive been given, if this is the case, its the person you dealt with taking on the unpaid order you need to speak to rather than me, as i have no way of confirming anything as i dont have access to the original paypal account, or previous version of the spreadsheet
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: suicidal_orange on Mon, 20 July 2015, 16:29:42
Huge credit to those getting this GB going again.  However after such a long time I've already resigned to the fact I'll never see any actual results, furthermore my enthusiasm in all things keyboards, customs and key caps  has waned having moved in to other interests.... I just don't know what to do with my order...

You have a PM :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 20 July 2015, 17:30:38
i can only work with what ive been given, if this is the case, its the person you dealt with taking on the unpaid order you need to speak to rather than me, as i have no way of confirming anything as i dont have access to the original paypal account, or previous version of the spreadsheet

No worries Bunny, I completly understand the trouble you're dealing with. I sent a PM to TJ.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 20 July 2015, 17:38:18
i can only work with what ive been given, if this is the case, its the person you dealt with taking on the unpaid order you need to speak to rather than me, as i have no way of confirming anything as i dont have access to the original paypal account, or previous version of the spreadsheet

No worries Bunny, I completly understand the trouble you're dealing with. I sent a PM to TJ.

whatever happens, there is nothing to worry about, if you paid for an order you will get it, its just going to take a little time to work through all this, and as mentioned before im right in the middle of moving so living in utter chaos, as of august the 1st, i will be very very proactive about getting this all sorted and chasing these loose ends
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Ghibli on Mon, 20 July 2015, 21:52:22
Which page do I go to for a summary of what happened to this monstrosity of a thread?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Mon, 20 July 2015, 23:35:35
Which page do I go to for a summary of what happened to this monstrosity of a thread?
> wasn't moving
> now slowly moving


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 21 July 2015, 00:48:34
to avoid messing up with this thread I created the

Show off your GH60 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73749.0)

I believe it is better to put our creations there and keep this to deal with the group buy stuff only.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vistination on Tue, 21 July 2015, 01:10:34
Glad to finally see this GB moving forward.
The PCB looks beautiful too!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: whiskytango on Tue, 21 July 2015, 09:23:50
i can only work with what ive been given, if this is the case, its the person you dealt with taking on the unpaid order you need to speak to rather than me, as i have no way of confirming anything as i dont have access to the original paypal account, or previous version of the spreadsheet

No worries Bunny, I completly understand the trouble you're dealing with. I sent a PM to TJ.

whatever happens, there is nothing to worry about, if you paid for an order you will get it, its just going to take a little time to work through all this, and as mentioned before im right in the middle of moving so living in utter chaos, as of august the 1st, i will be very very proactive about getting this all sorted and chasing these loose ends

Bunny, I didn't mean that as any type of statement against you. Very much appreciate what you're doing. I know you can only work with what you have. I was just telling BlueBar and putting it out there that I have never seen a confirmation spreadsheet that had the updates on it from those of us that picked up unpaid orders after the payment deadline. It's been asked several times in this thread but I don't think the master order list was ever updated. At least not a public version. So if BlueBar's order is not on your list, then I guess it's likely that the other unpaid orders that were picked up are not on your list either.

Big ups to Bunny for what he's doing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Acanthophis on Tue, 21 July 2015, 09:49:34
Thanks bunny, your work is very much appreciated!
Quick question though: From where do you send your batches? IIRC, it was the UK?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 21 July 2015, 12:01:20
Thanks bunny, your work is very much appreciated!
Quick question though: From where do you send your batches? IIRC, it was the UK?

yeah im in the UK
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 21 July 2015, 12:06:47
tonight i will message everybody in batch one via pm

i will be asking to confirm address, confirm order, and whether or not you would like pcbs/switches etc ahead of time whilst we are waiting to get plates and stabs, i do have some stabs on hand so in some cases i can also offer to send those

once i have done that, i will update each name in batch 1 to pm'd, once i get a reply, i will  then post a status, as in waiting for plate and stabs, sending partial order, not replied etc

anybody in that list who opts to have what we have on hand sent in advance, i will be able to ship that on friday, after that, any shipments have to wait until i move in to the new place on august 1st

once i have dealt with a good percentage of that batch, i will move on to the next and so one, i know some people in the list wont currently use gh, where that is the case and i dont get a reply, ill update that status to held, until i hear from them, once i have completed all batches, i will then make up a new batch of held orders, and try other means of contacting them

ive noted what epople are saying about people who took on unpaid orders, and i will try and obtain a list of these people and confirm with them
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 21 July 2015, 12:24:04
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but someone should have a record of those transferred orders, right?  A good deal of work and waiting time could be saved by acquiring that list.  This isn't to suggest you haven't already thought of that, Bunny, but rather to ask - why hasn't this been provided to you yet?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 21 July 2015, 12:29:53
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but someone should have a record of those transferred orders, right?  A good deal of work and waiting time could be saved by acquiring that list.  This isn't to suggest you haven't already thought of that, Bunny, but rather to ask - why hasn't this been provided to you yet?

right now, nobody is to blame but me on that sir

im sure someone, most likely TJ has a list of those, as he took payments i assume

what i worked from was a spreadsheet i was told was the most up to date, obviously that is either not the case, or it hadnt been properly updated

whatever the reason, since finding out about it, as of yet, i havent looked for answers, like 90 % of my time right now is spent packing cleaning and fixing things ready for my move, about 8% more of my time is taking the wife to pregnancy appointments etc, and with what times left, its all i can do right now to just keep up with responding to people and things rather than actively get something done

i know its all bad timing, but as mentioned before, come around august 1st, ill be able to far more actively chase things up and get things in order, but before chasing new stuff, im just trying to get what info and parts i have in order, and try and actually get what i can moving

that being said, ill send TJ and message now, asking what dates are good for him for the conus stuff to be picked up, and if he has a list of the unpaid orders that got picked up by other people
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 21 July 2015, 12:31:41
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but someone should have a record of those transferred orders, right?  A good deal of work and waiting time could be saved by acquiring that list.  This isn't to suggest you haven't already thought of that, Bunny, but rather to ask - why hasn't this been provided to you yet?

I think the only person able to compile that list of people who took over unpaid initial orders would have been TJ. He was the one who took the payments for the unpaid orders, so only he would know who bought them.

Note that this doesn't apply to people who later transferred their paid order to someone else. Those people should have sent PMs to myself, komar, and TJ with the details. I updated some of those on the original spreadsheet, with notes about the order. And every PM I got about a transferred order, I forwarded to TJ and komar, so they would also have the information.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 21 July 2015, 12:33:11
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but someone should have a record of those transferred orders, right?  A good deal of work and waiting time could be saved by acquiring that list.  This isn't to suggest you haven't already thought of that, Bunny, but rather to ask - why hasn't this been provided to you yet?

I think the only person able to compile that list of people who took over unpaid initial orders would have been TJ. He was the one who took the payments for the unpaid orders, so only he would know who bought them.

Note that this doesn't apply to people who later transferred their paid order to someone else. Those people should have sent PMs to myself, komar, and TJ with the details. I updated some of those on the original spreadsheet, with notes about the order. And every PM I got about a transferred order, I forwarded to TJ and komar, so they would also have the information.

thanks for the help jd, ive just sent a message to TJ asking if he has such a list
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: whiskytango on Tue, 21 July 2015, 12:43:57
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but someone should have a record of those transferred orders, right?  A good deal of work and waiting time could be saved by acquiring that list.  This isn't to suggest you haven't already thought of that, Bunny, but rather to ask - why hasn't this been provided to you yet?

I think the only person able to compile that list of people who took over unpaid initial orders would have been TJ. He was the one who took the payments for the unpaid orders, so only he would know who bought them.

Note that this doesn't apply to people who later transferred their paid order to someone else. Those people should have sent PMs to myself, komar, and TJ with the details. I updated some of those on the original spreadsheet, with notes about the order. And every PM I got about a transferred order, I forwarded to TJ and komar, so they would also have the information.

To add some info in case it's helpful since the thread is now so massive, this is the link to the post where unpaid orders were placed up for grabs. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg947513#msg947513) You can follow the posts afterward to see who claimed what. Maybe that's helpful, idk.

For me personally, I posted what I wanted in the thread, received a PM from jd, PMed my paypal info to jd, was invoiced by TJ and paid TJ.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 22 July 2015, 12:31:44
tj got back to me with a few other sheets and info, ill go through them as soon as i can

i messaged people in batch one this morning, thank you to everyone who has gotten back to me, i will reply to each of you soon

anyone else who i pmd that gets back to me by tonight, and requests some shipping, i will get it out friday

after friday, im going to be going dark for about 6 - 8 days

and then ill be back and going at this full throttle to get it cleared
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Aleksander on Wed, 22 July 2015, 19:19:30
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 23 July 2015, 18:06:03
I guess my address change didn't make it to that list. It's OK though. I'll just wait for the US orders to get to me.
Thanks again to everyone helping sort this out.
I'll speak my mind about the mute in off topic at a later time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 23 July 2015, 18:17:58
I guess my address change didn't make it to that list. It's OK though. I'll just wait for the US orders to get to me.
Thanks again to everyone helping sort this out.
I'll speak my mind about the mute in off topic at a later time.

i just got 3 updated lists from tj, ive been at a wedding all day though annoyingly and had a few too many drinks to even think about it now, but once i get to it ill update the batches accordingly
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nebo on Fri, 24 July 2015, 13:31:56
Those arent all the batches right?
if so I'm not on it..
Same here. Don't want my hopes to get elevated to only be crushed again.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kekstee on Fri, 24 July 2015, 14:09:26
I'm slightly euphoric to find myself on that list after picking up the hammer plate from the post office, which I didn't know would exist when I decided to get in on this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 24 July 2015, 14:21:09
Keep it out of this thread.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 24 July 2015, 14:30:11

Keep it out of this thread.

Get outta my swamp!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 24 July 2015, 15:40:17
Cleaned the thread up.

Seriously.  Stop.

If you want to talk **** about each other, take it to PMs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 24 July 2015, 15:47:08
Cleaned the thread up.

Seriously.  Stop.

If you want to talk **** about each other, take it to PMs.

But then how people will know I have won an internet argument ???
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 24 July 2015, 15:54:55
Cleaned the thread up.

Seriously.  Stop.

If you want to talk **** about each other, take it to PMs.

But then how people will know I have won an internet argument ???

Your penis will grow.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Fri, 24 July 2015, 16:53:34
Cleaned the thread up.

Seriously.  Stop.

If you want to talk **** about each other, take it to PMs.
:(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 24 July 2015, 17:44:45
as a PS to that post, ill post the list of names i have leftover for conus orders etc either tonight or tomorrow, so that way we may find the odd missing name and the US folks can see that they havent been missed as well, and hopefully from there we can get everything ironed out with transferred orders and whatnot

once again, please just gimme a chance to get on top of this, its a big task to take on and for the most part im walking in blind

So is bunny taking over conus orders and shipping them all the way to the UK then back to the US?
I am sorry this is just getting me more confused now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 July 2015, 18:07:34
as a PS to that post, ill post the list of names i have leftover for conus orders etc either tonight or tomorrow, so that way we may find the odd missing name and the US folks can see that they havent been missed as well, and hopefully from there we can get everything ironed out with transferred orders and whatnot

once again, please just gimme a chance to get on top of this, its a big task to take on and for the most part im walking in blind

So is bunny taking over conus orders and shipping them all the way to the UK then back to the US?
I am sorry this is just getting me more confused now.

nope not at all, we have posted full updates on what is happening if you read through the last couple pages
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Neal on Sat, 25 July 2015, 11:26:24
I have not been in the Keyboard game for a while, so if anyone would like to take my order (before it ships or after, I'm in batch #6) go ahead and send me a pm.
You would pay the exact same I have paid at the start of this GB ($146 I believe), my order contains:
Code: [Select]
PCBs:
PCB (SMD presoldered) - 2x
bare PCB (no components) - 1x

Plates:
Universal ANSI plate - 1x
Pure plate quantity - 1x
ANSI 1.5x plate quantity - 1x

Stabs:
PCB-mounted cherry stabs 6.25 units - 1x
Plate-mounted cherry stabs 6.25 units - 3x

No switches
No assembly

I realise its a big order, and might be up for splitting it up if no one wants it before it gets shipped to me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sat, 25 July 2015, 18:59:46
Who is taking care of North America orders? Bunnylake seems to be doing way too good of a job for eu
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hoggy on Sun, 26 July 2015, 12:24:57
BunnyLake, looks like you're doing a great job, thanks!

Anything I can help you with?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hoggy on Sun, 26 July 2015, 12:25:10
BunnyLake, looks like you're doing a great job, thanks!

Anything I can help you with?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mkaito on Sun, 26 July 2015, 20:55:21
It... it's happening! Be right back, I'm telling my wife off for calling me a moron for the past two years.

Jokes aside, I'm so happy that I'll get my GH60  ;D Thank you all!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Mon, 27 July 2015, 16:21:56
So is bunny taking over conus orders and shipping them all the way to the UK then back to the US?
I am sorry this is just getting me more confused now.

BunnyLake is handling the non Conus orders. The US orders are still being sorted out. One, or multiple people will be taking over the US shipping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 27 July 2015, 16:46:23
hey guys really sorry i have had zero time, thanks to all the people who replied to me from batch one, i have an hour now so im gonna go through my pms and reply to each of you, and update the batch list here when im done

tomorrow i will speak to matteo and the hub for the US stuff, and work on getting that moving

after tomorrow, i most likely wont be on at all until im all moved in to the new house, so ill be dark for about 4 or 5 days
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 27 July 2015, 16:57:18
batch 1
soulhunter - no reply
dr. marv - replied, pm sent requesting more info
kyesarri - no reply
wraul - no reply
phetto - no reply
bimbobb - no reply
luke - no reply
frukstund - replied, pm sent requesting more info
dirge - no reply
gropingmantis - replied, pm sent requesting more info
winther - no reply
razer1987 - replied, partial order being sent
mr.bean - no reply
simkev - no reply
tit - partial order shipped
plaskboks - replied, waiting for plates
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mkaito on Mon, 27 July 2015, 17:15:37
This might be a tremendously stupid question, but I'd rather ask than be sorry.

Do I get an email along with a PM, or do I need to watch my GH inbox like a hawk?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 27 July 2015, 17:18:30
This might be a tremendously stupid question, but I'd rather ask than be sorry.

Do I get an email along with a PM, or do I need to watch my GH inbox like a hawk?

i will pm you on gh, and geekhack should email you when you get a pm unless you have that turned off

thats what ill do initially

once i have worked through the batches, anyone who i dont have a pm reply from, ill look down other contact avenues
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mkaito on Mon, 27 July 2015, 17:21:09
This might be a tremendously stupid question, but I'd rather ask than be sorry.

Do I get an email along with a PM, or do I need to watch my GH inbox like a hawk?

i will pm you on gh, and geekhack should email you when you get a pm unless you have that turned off

thats what ill do initially

once i have worked through the batches, anyone who i dont have a pm reply from, ill look down other contact avenues

Sweet, thanks! I'm in batch 6, so it'll be a little while. Thanks for all your work!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 27 July 2015, 17:47:59
This might be a tremendously stupid question, but I'd rather ask than be sorry.

Do I get an email along with a PM, or do I need to watch my GH inbox like a hawk?

i will pm you on gh, and geekhack should email you when you get a pm unless you have that turned off

thats what ill do initially

once i have worked through the batches, anyone who i dont have a pm reply from, ill look down other contact avenues

Sweet, thanks! I'm in batch 6, so it'll be a little while. Thanks for all your work!

it really wont be as long as you think

im going to be moving in to my new house august 1st, give myself a few days to unpack and then ill be really on top of it, most likely i will have messaged everyone in all batches within a week or so, and then ill be able to ship any orders that want just their switches and pcbs before the plates come in within a couple days

once the plates come in, ill be able to get every order out within a day or so as ill have them all ready, and then itll just be the orders that require soldering work

im in talks with a few people within the EU to get that done right now
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:26:36

This might be a tremendously stupid question, but I'd rather ask than be sorry.

Do I get an email along with a PM, or do I need to watch my GH inbox like a hawk?

i will pm you on gh, and geekhack should email you when you get a pm unless you have that turned off

thats what ill do initially

once i have worked through the batches, anyone who i dont have a pm reply from, ill look down other contact avenues

Sweet, thanks! I'm in batch 6, so it'll be a little while. Thanks for all your work!

it really wont be as long as you think

im going to be moving in to my new house august 1st, give myself a few days to unpack and then ill be really on top of it, most likely i will have messaged everyone in all batches within a week or so, and then ill be able to ship any orders that want just their switches and pcbs before the plates come in within a couple days

once the plates come in, ill be able to get every order out within a day or so as ill have them all ready, and then itll just be the orders that require soldering work

im in talks with a few people within the EU to get that done right now

If I was close I would come help you move dude but I'll be on the other side of the world 🏻
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: do_Og@n on Tue, 28 July 2015, 21:32:04
Submitted a change of address.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 02 August 2015, 11:15:45
hey guys

currently unpacking and whatnot at the new house

im gonna take some time tomorrow and contact everyone from batch 2 and 3, and ill ship then end of the batch ones who asked to have stuff shipped this week

me and matteo are currently working out having the US stuff sorted, and we are just waiting for a reply from our hub to get that moving, ill have more details on that asap
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Sun, 02 August 2015, 13:50:52
hey guys

currently unpacking and whatnot at the new house

im gonna take some time tomorrow and contact everyone from batch 2 and 3, and ill ship then end of the batch ones who asked to have stuff shipped this week

me and matteo are currently working out having the US stuff sorted, and we are just waiting for a reply from our hub to get that moving, ill have more details on that asap
Huge props to you sir. I didn't think I could respect you more and then you go above and beyond again.

I hope your move went smoothly and you guys are getting set up alright. Take care of your family first. After all this time, a week or two of delays for you to get your family settled will not be noticed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: agodinhost on Sun, 02 August 2015, 16:19:48
ZZzzzz...

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 02 August 2015, 16:44:34
I purposely avoided this thread for the last couple of months thinking all hope would be lost.

Now I read the last ~30 pages and am finally up-to-date again!


Thank you so much Bunnylake, Matt3o and everyone else who got this thing going again  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Mon, 03 August 2015, 01:17:26
Please forgive this question if it's been addressed already, but what is the POA for "assembled" orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mauri on Mon, 03 August 2015, 16:47:44
i reckon there oughta be some sort of fundraiser to help cover the costs and whatnot i mean im broke as **** but id still prolly pitch in for like shipping costs' worth
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ForestFunK on Tue, 04 August 2015, 09:24:20
Is there any way to check what I actually ordered? :O The order confirmation sheet on the first page of the thread doesnt seem to work anymore and BunnyLake is asking for an order confirmation. I can only find the amount I paid by paypal but I am not sure how many pcbs etc I actually ordered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 04 August 2015, 09:27:10
Is there any way to check what I actually ordered? :O The order confirmation sheet on the first page of the thread doesnt seem to work anymore and BunnyLake is asking for an order confirmation. I can only find the amount I paid by paypal but I am not sure how many pcbs etc I actually ordered.

I show you ordered:

2x PCB
1x Universal ANSI Plate
1x ISO 1.25 Plate
1x Costar Stabilizers
2x Cherry PCB mount 6.25 stabilizers
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ForestFunK on Tue, 04 August 2015, 09:32:48
Is there any way to check what I actually ordered? :O The order confirmation sheet on the first page of the thread doesnt seem to work anymore and BunnyLake is asking for an order confirmation. I can only find the amount I paid by paypal but I am not sure how many pcbs etc I actually ordered.

I show you ordered:

2x PCB
1x Universal ANSI Plate
1x ISO 1.25 Plate
1x Costar Stabilizers
2x Cherry PCB mount 6.25 stabilizers

Thanks jd!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 04 August 2015, 10:03:36
Is there any way to check what I actually ordered? :O The order confirmation sheet on the first page of the thread doesnt seem to work anymore and BunnyLake is asking for an order confirmation. I can only find the amount I paid by paypal but I am not sure how many pcbs etc I actually ordered.

just for other people in the future

i have what you ordered on my sheet, i only ask you to confirm what you ordered in the event some changes were made that werent updated, so if what you say doesnt match, i can look in to it for you

if when you get your batch message and you dont know, i can always confirm what i have down for people

as a side note, everyone in batch 2 and 3 has been contacted
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 05 August 2015, 07:53:06
thank you so much to everyone who has replied to me from batch 2 and 3

i have not replied to people yet, but i will make sure i reply to everyone by friday (giving poeple a few days to reply to the message so i can go through and do them all at once)

for everyone who requested what i have on hand now to be send, i will be packing those orders up on saturday, and shipping them between monday and wednesday of next week depending when i have the car etc (no idea where the closest post office is to my new house)

on sunday, i will contact batches 4 and 5, and next week i will have more time so will be able to get those turned around pretty much as soon as anyone replies to me

conus orders havent been forgotten, and we are working on that situation right now

thank you to everyone for your patience whilst i have been moving and getting to grips with this gb
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Wed, 05 August 2015, 08:10:16
Any news on the special cases? Like mine where I took over someone's unpaid order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 05 August 2015, 08:12:18
Any news on the special cases? Like mine where I took over someone's unpaid order.

yeah i posted somewhere above i will be dealing with those once i have worked through the batches
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 08 August 2015, 11:59:58
hey guys

sorry i didnt get back to the people who pmd me from batch 2 and 3 yesterday like i said, i had family here helping me with house stuff

itll either be done tomorrow or tonight

tomorrow i will be messages batches 4 and 5

and on monday everything from batch 2 and 3 that people have requested i ship will go out

i think ill ship batches 4 and 5 of wednesday

in other news

a few people who ordered that i contacted, stated they didnt care about getting their order anymore, and didnt want a refund etc

what i will do with these boards, is wait until i have shipped all my orders, then whatever is left, i will offer for sale in this thread, they will be sold at gb price, and the money taken from these boards, will go back in the gh60 shipping fund

for conus people, myself and matteo have spoken to the US hub, he is arranging collection of the US parts from TJ, and i am waiting on the quote so i can transfer him the money to get that done
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 08 August 2015, 14:21:34
Thanks for the update Bunny  :thumb:

Interesting that some people don't care for the board anymore, but don't want a refund either.

Well, I guess that's really fortunate considering that funds are needed for shipping :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 09 August 2015, 06:02:47
ok guys, i have been through all my pms

here is the batch 2 and 3 update

batch 2
aleksander - replied, order packed and shipping monday
asura - did not reply
evert - replied partial orde rpacked and shipping monday
4li4z - did not reply
osxoep - replied waiting on plates and stabs
multipla - replied waiting on plates and stabs
zoidbergslo - replied waiting for plates and stabs
tradet - replied, partial order packed and shipping monday
forestfunk - replied waiting on plates + stabs
xauser - replied waiting for plates and stabs
hankz - did not reply
jmneuv - replied waiting to confirm address
pexon - replied - partial order packed shipping monday
sth - replied waiting on plates and stabs
vardhana - replied waiting on plates and stabs
hirsti - did not reply
lordbadger - replied, waiting for plates and stabs
isman - waiting for plates and stabs

batch 3
freester - did not reply
kennyr - replied, partial order packed and shipping monday
reality404 - did not reply
edrago - did not reply
lumune - did not reply
wanzago - did not reply
jbert - replied wiating on plates and stabs
nickwalt - replied, waiting on plates and stabs
fabspeed - did not reply
gruener_salat - replied waioting on plates and stabs
ter_ - replied, partial orde rpacked and shipping monday
selektam - did not reply
battletux - replied, waiting on plates and stabs
caaaarrrt - replied waiting for plates and stabs

so the 6 orders in those batches who elected to have what we have on hand to ship now, will be going out tomorrow

i will message batches 4 and 5 tonight

and ship those orders on wednesday
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tradet on Sun, 09 August 2015, 06:41:33
You're the boss bunny.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 09 August 2015, 06:50:14
You're the boss bunny.

your order is sat next to me good sir, sorry i didnt reply to all the pms this time im on a tight schedule today but ive updated the status next to everyones name in the batch

right now its just about making time as and when i can
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: cyberwave on Sun, 09 August 2015, 11:33:27
how do I check my order? non-conus here.

I vaguely remembering paying for a pcb and universal ansi plate, but would like to confirm this before any further actions  :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 09 August 2015, 11:36:04
how do I check my order? non-conus here.

I vaguely remembering paying for a pcb and universal ansi plate, but would like to confirm this before any further actions  :-[

edit sorry

you are in batch 4

you will be getting a pm later tonight
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: netdevil on Sun, 09 August 2015, 23:35:49
I see myself in batch 6 what a long journey. Thank you Sir bunnylake for your efforts *applaud*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: JBert on Mon, 10 August 2015, 04:20:10
what i will do with these boards, is wait until i have shipped all my orders, then whatever is left, i will offer for sale in this thread, they will be sold at gb price, and the money taken from these boards, will go back in the gh60 shipping fund

I'm waiting for you to confirm whether the spreadsheet said I ordered an ISO plate (I thought I did but looking back my Paypal invoice says GH60, though that could have been generic).

It's a long shot, but if I did order a GH60 I'm hoping the leftovers include an ISO plate to trade with...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Paranoid on Mon, 10 August 2015, 04:32:55
Bunny, have the batch 4 PMs been sent? Just wondering because I see "paranopid" as last, don't know if that's supposed to be my name ^^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 10 August 2015, 04:37:41
Bunny, have the batch 4 PMs been sent? Just wondering because I see "paranopid" as last, don't know if that's supposed to be my name ^^

no sorry i was literally about to do them, i said i was gonna do them last night but i ended up just crashing before i got round to it, you should have one within half an hour
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 10 August 2015, 05:12:02
ok i have messaged all of batch 4, ill message batch 5 tonight as i gotta run out and do some shipping now
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 10 August 2015, 07:29:21
hey guys

everyone from batch 2 and 3 who requested shipping of switches and pcbs, they went off today

if you send me a pm with your zip code i can give you tracking

on a side note, that was my first trip to my new local post office, which turns out is just about the worst post office experience ive ever had, so i wont be going back there in the future, so from now on ill either use dhl or wait until the weekend and go to a different post office
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 10 August 2015, 16:17:31
Has the US hub been identified?  I'm sure it's still in the works but it would be reassuring to know who is handling the US side of things.  Unless I just missed it.  :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 10 August 2015, 17:15:46
Has the US hub been identified?  I'm sure it's still in the works but it would be reassuring to know who is handling the US side of things.  Unless I just missed it.  :P

i hadnt posted it yet because i didnt think it was my place to do so, but ill ask permission and make sure its ok, i can say that it is a very trusted member of the community both in terms of helping the forum as well as previous gb experience
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: dav1k on Tue, 11 August 2015, 07:41:21
Hello!

I'm new to the community. It's a nice place, I've enjoyed digging through the enormous volume of the information here.

Given that, I'm interested in a GH60 PCB, is it still possible to acquire one? It seems its very popular, and I understand others have asked first. But I don't mind waiting for something has the features I desire. Would give me time to source all the other parts I would require.

Let me know!

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Tue, 11 August 2015, 07:55:52
Hello!

I'm new to the community. It's a nice place, I've enjoyed digging through the enormous volume of the information here.

Given that, I'm interested in a GH60 PCB, is it still possible to acquire one? It seems its very popular, and I understand others have asked first. But I don't mind waiting for something has the features I desire. Would give me time to source all the other parts I would require.

Let me know!

Thanks!

Its not possible to get into the original GB at this point, but there will be a thriving aftermarket once people start getting their PCBs.  Just watch the classifieds and you will see boards available in about a month or so...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 11 August 2015, 09:00:20
Hello!

I'm new to the community. It's a nice place, I've enjoyed digging through the enormous volume of the information here.

Given that, I'm interested in a GH60 PCB, is it still possible to acquire one? It seems its very popular, and I understand others have asked first. But I don't mind waiting for something has the features I desire. Would give me time to source all the other parts I would require.

Let me know!

Thanks!

Its not possible to get into the original GB at this point, but there will be a thriving aftermarket once people start getting their PCBs.  Just watch the classifieds and you will see boards available in about a month or so...

or just get rev b (?) from taobao or whereever
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Tue, 11 August 2015, 09:32:08
Isnt Bunny gonna sell off the ones that werent wanted anymore?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 11 August 2015, 12:02:45
what i will do with these boards, is wait until i have shipped all my orders, then whatever is left, i will offer for sale in this thread, they will be sold at gb price, and the money taken from these boards, will go back in the gh60 shipping fund

I'm waiting for you to confirm whether the spreadsheet said I ordered an ISO plate (I thought I did but looking back my Paypal invoice says GH60, though that could have been generic).

It's a long shot, but if I did order a GH60 I'm hoping the leftovers include an ISO plate to trade with...

I have ordered an ISO plate, but in the 2 years that passed since this GB started I switched to ANSI :p

Maybe we can trade plates?
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Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 11 August 2015, 12:04:48
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: JBert on Tue, 11 August 2015, 15:57:37
what i will do with these boards, is wait until i have shipped all my orders, then whatever is left, i will offer for sale in this thread, they will be sold at gb price, and the money taken from these boards, will go back in the gh60 shipping fund

I'm waiting for you to confirm whether the spreadsheet said I ordered an ISO plate (I thought I did but looking back my Paypal invoice says GH60, though that could have been generic).

It's a long shot, but if I did order a GH60 I'm hoping the leftovers include an ISO plate to trade with...

I have ordered an ISO plate, but in the 2 years that passed since this GB started I switched to ANSI :p

Maybe we can trade plates?
Thank you for your offer.
I'm still waiting for a confirmation from BunnyLake though, so it's possible that I did order an ISO plate and that my Paypal invoice was wrong. We'll see what's possible once he has time to look it all up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 11 August 2015, 15:59:59
what i will do with these boards, is wait until i have shipped all my orders, then whatever is left, i will offer for sale in this thread, they will be sold at gb price, and the money taken from these boards, will go back in the gh60 shipping fund

I'm waiting for you to confirm whether the spreadsheet said I ordered an ISO plate (I thought I did but looking back my Paypal invoice says GH60, though that could have been generic).

It's a long shot, but if I did order a GH60 I'm hoping the leftovers include an ISO plate to trade with...

I have ordered an ISO plate, but in the 2 years that passed since this GB started I switched to ANSI :p

Maybe we can trade plates?

I'd be willing to trade plates once my order gets sorted. Of course it'd be international shipping, so maybe it's just a fall-back offer for you, but happy to help if I can.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:21:48
Samwisekoi is in contact with TJ for taking over the US PCBs and the plates. He will then send them to other volunteers who will be shipping to the end points.

This happened last week. I have no news yet but I bet Samwisekoi will get all the boards soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Zorox on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:44:19
1st of  all thank the GH60 team to make a community miracle become true. I joined the keyboard game too late to get myself one order. Are you guys planning on later batches? Or is there anybody out there randomly wanna pass your ISO order, just let me know pls :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:46:15
sorry if this has been answered - i tried to go back a bit but couldnt find the info. what is the ETA on plates for EU orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:52:41
i just sent the pms to batch 5 people, i copied my last message from batch 4 so it says ill ship wednesday but scratch that if you are in batch 5 itll be this weekend
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:53:07
sorry if this has been answered - i tried to go back a bit but couldnt find the info. what is the ETA on plates for EU orders?

there is a post about that 2 posts above yours
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:54:54
sorry if this has been answered - i tried to go back a bit but couldnt find the info. what is the ETA on plates for EU orders?

there is a post about that 2 posts above yours

it's unclear if that is referring to EU plates

dont sass me

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:57:34
sorry if this has been answered - i tried to go back a bit but couldnt find the info. what is the ETA on plates for EU orders?

there is a post about that 2 posts above yours

it's unclear if that is referring to EU plates

dont sass me

im not sure who is sassing you

but as we have posted several times in this thread

all the plates are in the US

once the plates have been sent to the new US proxy, they will send them to me

the post 2 above yours states who is doing this, and that we havent heard any news of a date and time

i have been clearly posting any and all updates in this thread
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:00:02
sorry if this has been answered - i tried to go back a bit but couldnt find the info. what is the ETA on plates for EU orders?

there is a post about that 2 posts above yours

it's unclear if that is referring to EU plates

dont sass me

im not sure who is sassing you

but as we have posted several times in this thread

all the plates are in the US

once the plates have been sent to the new US proxy, they will send them to me

the post 2 above yours states who is doing this, and that we havent heard any news of a date and time

i have been clearly posting any and all updates in this thread

thank you

as i said the post was unclear

i can read

im not accusing you of not posting updates

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:33:34
sorry if this has been answered - i tried to go back a bit but couldnt find the info. what is the ETA on plates for EU orders?

there is a post about that 2 posts above yours

it's unclear if that is referring to EU plates

dont sass me

im not sure who is sassing you

but as we have posted several times in this thread

all the plates are in the US

once the plates have been sent to the new US proxy, they will send them to me

the post 2 above yours states who is doing this, and that we havent heard any news of a date and time

i have been clearly posting any and all updates in this thread

thank you

as i said the post was unclear

i can read

im not accusing you of not posting updates

yeah its all good sir, i just wasnt trying to be sassy, i just didnt know if you were only looking at my posts for updates so pointed you to matteo

for everyone in the future, if the update isnt here, then we dont have it, the way the US stuff has been left right now is samwisekoi is arranging collection of the other stuff, and im waiting on his contact to transfer him the money needed

as soon as that has been done, i will update
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:35:21
the other problem is that this thread is just massively impossible to navigate. i wonder if it's possible to change the OP to you, matt3o or someone else who is keeping track of things so there is a clear place to get the current status... should be possible in SQL
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:37:27
the other problem is that this thread is just massively impossible to navigate. i wonder if it's possible to change the OP to you, matt3o or someone else who is keeping track of things so there is a clear place to get the current status... should be possible in SQL

that is a good point sir, perhaps ill look in to setting up a little webpage that gives the current status on everything, and ask to have the url placed in the OP
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: v4mp1 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 06:05:29
Can anyone tell me what I ordered? The excel sheet is not working on the first page.

Thank you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: maxmalkav on Wed, 12 August 2015, 06:27:40
If you paid with Paypal and you still have the original email notification with the invoice, it contains a link with the order detail (I always archive this kind of thing, I could retrieve it by searching using "GH60" as keyword :-) )
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 August 2015, 06:39:38


Samwisekoi is in contact with TJ for taking over the US PCBs and the plates. He will then send them to other volunteers who will be shipping to the end points.

This happened last week. I have no news yet but I bet Samwisekoi will get all the boards soon.

I hope reliable volunteers are used. Glad this is moving along finally.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 12 August 2015, 08:05:15
the other problem is that this thread is just massively impossible to navigate. i wonder if it's possible to change the OP to you, matt3o or someone else who is keeping track of things so there is a clear place to get the current status... should be possible in SQL

that is a good point sir, perhaps ill look in to setting up a little webpage that gives the current status on everything, and ask to have the url placed in the OP

I'm more than happy to update the OP when needed.  Samwisekoi obviously also has that ability.  A webpage to give updates might just be the easiest option at this point, however.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Wed, 12 August 2015, 08:16:56
the other problem is that this thread is just massively impossible to navigate. i wonder if it's possible to change the OP to you, matt3o or someone else who is keeping track of things so there is a clear place to get the current status... should be possible in SQL

that is a good point sir, perhaps ill look in to setting up a little webpage that gives the current status on everything, and ask to have the url placed in the OP

I am happy to build you whatever you need.  Maybe a little webpage that uses a Google Spreadsheet as its database?  I am willing to build it if you have a basic idea of what you want, just let me know...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tradet on Wed, 12 August 2015, 14:02:07
I can happily report that I have just received my switches and two PCBs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: v4mp1 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 15:30:42
(http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/376588/resized_willow-meme-generator-this-is-happening-986bc6.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hellerbarde on Thu, 13 August 2015, 05:07:56
If you paid with Paypal and you still have the original email notification with the invoice, it contains a link with the order detail (I always archive this kind of thing, I could retrieve it by searching using "GH60" as keyword :-) )

THIS! I was falling over myself trying to find what I ordered. The invoicing confirmation has the info.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 13 August 2015, 08:14:32
the first of my gh60's

(http://i.imgur.com/A3wojMS.jpg)

lovingly built by matteo



Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Thu, 13 August 2015, 08:29:13
That tease
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Thu, 13 August 2015, 08:32:11
Looking good Mr. Lake.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 13 August 2015, 08:41:46
Looking good Mr. Lake.

i have the package ready for you sir, ill have it out on the weekend me thinks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Thu, 13 August 2015, 08:53:50
Ready and waiting, I'm going to get my second PCB soldered up tonight in preparation I think :D.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: oluf on Thu, 13 August 2015, 14:17:54
the first of my gh60's
...
lovingly built by matteo

Very nice.. What case is that?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 13 August 2015, 14:36:43
the first of my gh60's
...
lovingly built by matteo

Very nice.. What case is that?

OG duck poker
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: joey on Thu, 13 August 2015, 14:39:25
What switches, MX clears or Gateron clears?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 13 August 2015, 14:51:08
pretty sure they are Gaterons  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Aleksander on Thu, 13 August 2015, 15:12:45
Got my PCB today :)
Had planned to put it in a case similar to the one Bunny has on his above..
BUT I think I am going to make a 60% version the same way I did my ErgoDox, that way the sexy PCB is exposed :)
(http://oyen.in/Deskthority/Dox9.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 13 August 2015, 18:18:53
the first of my gh60's

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/A3wojMS.jpg)


lovingly built by matteo
Lookin' real nice! :eek:

Is that an FMJ case?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 14 August 2015, 04:05:58
the first of my gh60's

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/A3wojMS.jpg)


lovingly built by matteo
Lookin' real nice! :eek:

Is that an FMJ case?

the first of my gh60's
...
lovingly built by matteo

Very nice.. What case is that?

OG duck poker



 :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 14 August 2015, 04:46:13
Oops. :-[ Thanks Lechner!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: TurtleMaster on Fri, 14 August 2015, 14:55:25
Hello!

I'm new to the community. It's a nice place, I've enjoyed digging through the enormous volume of the information here.

Given that, I'm interested in a GH60 PCB, is it still possible to acquire one? It seems its very popular, and I understand others have asked first. But I don't mind waiting for something has the features I desire. Would give me time to source all the other parts I would require.

Let me know!

Thanks!

Its not possible to get into the original GB at this point, but there will be a thriving aftermarket once people start getting their PCBs.  Just watch the classifieds and you will see boards available in about a month or so...

Why dont we start a new GB? I can get PCB and components easy since i'm in PCB assembly bussiness. The remain is just metal work. And BYO keycaps.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 15 August 2015, 08:21:08
I think most of us are eager to get what we paid for first. Once this GB wraps up and Version C is released then kicking off a new GB would be great.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Sed8op8 on Sat, 15 August 2015, 08:33:56
I just read through a couple pages of this thread and once again I  blown away by the patience and grace of mister bunny lake thank you so much truly blown away by this guy sometimes
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:40:52
sorry i havent replied to people from the last couple batches yet and posted the new updated list in the thread

i will have that up sometime tomorrow at the latest

but most likely later today

i just got done making myself a little packing area in the new house, where everything has its own little place rather than me lugging stuff in to my office all the time and having it strewn around everywhere

the boards i said i would ship today will now be sent monday, i ended up needing to have a tumble dryer delivered today and i was told it would be anytime between 9 and 5, its now nearly 4 and still not here so doesnt look like ill be going anywhere
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: argcargv on Sat, 15 August 2015, 19:22:20
GUYS! NEED A LITTLE HELP HERE!
Does anyone know if TMK supports led for Rev. C PCB?
I can't find any information online

I got confirmation from Hasu that it's not supported by him yet.
I wonder if there is some little known branch out there that does?

I tried Kairyu's branch, doesn't seem to support Rev. C
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Sat, 15 August 2015, 20:50:13
GUYS! NEED A LITTLE HELP HERE!
Does anyone know if TMK supports led for Rev. C PCB?
I can't find any information online

I got confirmation from Hasu that it's not supported by him yet.
I wonder if there is some little known branch out there that does?

I tried Kairyu's branch, doesn't seem to support Rev. C
I don't think rev c has backlighting support through the main controller. I think I read that somewhere. I am sure someone who knows this buy better will jump in and correct me, but this is what I recall. I am pretty sure backlighting is not available out if the box.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: argcargv on Sat, 15 August 2015, 21:48:56
GUYS! NEED A LITTLE HELP HERE!
Does anyone know if TMK supports led for Rev. C PCB?
I can't find any information online

I got confirmation from Hasu that it's not supported by him yet.
I wonder if there is some little known branch out there that does?

I tried Kairyu's branch, doesn't seem to support Rev. C
I don't think rev c has backlighting support through the main controller. I think I read that somewhere. I am sure someone who knows this buy better will jump in and correct me, but this is what I recall. I am pretty sure backlighting is not available out if the box.

Yes, I agree with your info, I contaced Hasu to get the confirmation.
KaiRyu's branch only supports PCBs designed in China like Rev.CHN
Title: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 16 August 2015, 20:57:26
GUYS! NEED A LITTLE HELP HERE!
Does anyone know if TMK supports led for Rev. C PCB?
I can't find any information online

I got confirmation from Hasu that it's not supported by him yet.
I wonder if there is some little known branch out there that does?

I tried Kairyu's branch, doesn't seem to support Rev. C
I don't think rev c has backlighting support through the main controller. I think I read that somewhere. I am sure someone who knows this buy better will jump in and correct me, but this is what I recall. I am pretty sure backlighting is not available out if the box.

Yes, I agree with your info, I contaced Hasu to get the confirmation.
KaiRyu's branch only supports PCBs designed in China like Rev.CHN

Full backlighting was to be added later via an add-on LED controller. I don't think there have been updates on that in quite some time.

Edit: and I do have to add that I've been around a bit and I am constantly amazed at Bunny's patience and tenacity. This guy is such an incredible asset to this community. Always polite and professional.

Bunny, want to run for US President?  We could get Elrick to be your campaign manager.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 17 August 2015, 06:16:28
batch 4
cyberwave
replied waiting on plates and stabs
komar007
replied, waiting for complete order and confirmation of leftovers
kekstee
pasph
replied waiting on plates and stabs
cyanogenoid
replied, waiting for plates ans stabs
limmy
georgek
replied waiting on plates and stabs
paperdollman
replied waiting on plates and stabs
dsan
replied, wanting to upgrade order to assembled, looking in to it
kaiserreich
eon
replied, waiting on plates and stabs
pix3l_fodder
replied, waiting for plates and stabs
hasu
replied, waiting on plates and stabs
laggy_gaga
realex
hellerbarde
replied, partial order of pcb packed and shipping this week
damorgue
replied, waiting for paltes and stabs
niall
replied, partial order of switches and 1 pcb packed and shipping this week
paranoid
replied, waiting for plates and stabs

batch 5
wlly
replied, partial order of 5 pcbs packed and shipping this week
pixelscript
replied waiting on plates and stabs
iamahab
replied, partial order of 1 pcb packed and shipping this week
tdub
partial order packed, holding until back from a trip to ensure they can be delivered
kurrk
4814
replied waiting on plates and stabs
guilleguillaume
maxmalkav
replied waiting on plates and stabs
bear95
korne
batmann
txepox
replied waiting on plates and stabs
mauri
replied waiting on plates and stabs
acanthopis
replied waiting on plates and stabs
adagio
flamingchook
replied waiting on plates and stabs
broadmonkey
replied waiting on plates and stabs
v4mp1
replied waiting on plates and stabs
photekq
order of 1 pcb packed and shipping this week
feature
mikelittoris
replied, waiting on assembly service
tams
replied, waiting to confirm order
neal
replied, partial order of 2 complete smd pcbs packed and shipping this week
dgsbllx
replied, partial order of 2 pcbs packed and shipping this week
tinlong117
relcc
replied waiting on plates and stabs
aranair
agodinhost
tai92
dzeams
jonesless85

also from earlier batch

luke
2 pcbs packed and shipping this week
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Mon, 17 August 2015, 15:27:59
Second GH60 all sorted, went with Gateron browns and a Tex acrylic case on this one.

(http://i.imgur.com/vx1P29S.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 17 August 2015, 15:51:47
Second GH60 all sorted, went with Gateron browns and a Tex acrylic case on this one.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/vx1P29S.jpg)

Another interesting build! Where are the keycaps from? Loving the R3 Control ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Mon, 17 August 2015, 15:54:21
The caps are from a Psion MC400, the GH60 is just borrowing them for a while :D.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 17 August 2015, 15:56:07
Seeing all these international orders go out and still no start to the US makes me sad.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: fydo on Mon, 17 August 2015, 18:40:27
Quick question: I didn't see my name in the list of "non-US" batches. I assume this means Canadian orders are considered to be part of US orders? Just want to be sure I'm not missed :) Thanks in advance
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 17 August 2015, 18:43:25
Quick question: I didn't see my name in the list of "non-US" batches. I assume this means Canadian orders are considered to be part of US orders? Just want to be sure I'm not missed :) Thanks in advance

i have a good amount of time tomorrow, shoot me a pm to remind me and ill look it up for you
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 17 August 2015, 18:49:34

Quick question: I didn't see my name in the list of "non-US" batches. I assume this means Canadian orders are considered to be part of US orders? Just want to be sure I'm not missed :) Thanks in advance

i have a good amount of time tomorrow, shoot me a pm to remind me and ill look it up for you

I think Canadian orders are considered US. we're America's hat. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 17 August 2015, 18:52:43

Quick question: I didn't see my name in the list of "non-US" batches. I assume this means Canadian orders are considered to be part of US orders? Just want to be sure I'm not missed :) Thanks in advance

i have a good amount of time tomorrow, shoot me a pm to remind me and ill look it up for you

I think Canadian orders are considered US. we're America's hat.

Thank you for keeping us warm.  ^-^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Luke on Tue, 18 August 2015, 08:58:51
also from earlier batch

luke
2 pcbs packed and shipping this week

Thanks Bunny :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 18 August 2015, 14:56:51
packed the orders mentioned above tonight and they will go out tomorrow
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 18 August 2015, 16:09:58


Quick question: I didn't see my name in the list of "non-US" batches. I assume this means Canadian orders are considered to be part of US orders? Just want to be sure I'm not missed :) Thanks in advance

i have a good amount of time tomorrow, shoot me a pm to remind me and ill look it up for you

I think Canadian orders are considered US. we're America's hat.

Thank you for keeping us warm.  ^-^

Hehe, no problem.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: do_Og@n on Tue, 18 August 2015, 21:56:27
This is moving along very nicely. Thanks BunnyLake for the updates.

Can't wait to get mine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 19 August 2015, 05:43:46
all the above packages have now been shipped, everything has been sent fully tracked, if anyone needs their tracking, simply send me a pm with the zipcode you provided when confirming your address, and ill send that over to you

thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: chel- on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:31:22
Quick question: I didn't see my name in the list of "non-US" batches. I assume this means Canadian orders are considered to be part of US orders? Just want to be sure I'm not missed :) Thanks in advance

Where is the non-us list?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Wed, 19 August 2015, 10:36:14
Quick question: I didn't see my name in the list of "non-US" batches. I assume this means Canadian orders are considered to be part of US orders? Just want to be sure I'm not missed :) Thanks in advance

Where is the non-us list?

All of bunny's posts in the last couple of pages.

The batches are the list.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 19 August 2015, 14:53:05
Is there an update on the US side of things?  Not to be a pain, but it does suck on our side to still not have an idea of where things lie and seeing a good chunk of the international side going out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 19 August 2015, 14:58:21
Is there an update on the US side of things?  Not to be a pain, but it does suck on our side to still not have an idea of where things lie and seeing a good chunk of the international side going out.

ive posted the most recent update somewhere above
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 August 2015, 15:00:10
Is there an update on the US side of things?  Not to be a pain, but it does suck on our side to still not have an idea of where things lie and seeing a good chunk of the international side going out.

Samwisekoi is in contact with TJ for taking over the US PCBs and the plates. He will then send them to other volunteers who will be shipping to the end points.

This happened last week. I have no news yet but I bet Samwisekoi will get all the boards soon.


That's the last thing I've seen about it. What concerns me is finding enough reliable volunteers to handle the shipping to the end points.

The way I see that going down is things get shipped 2 and 3 times and as is inevitable with how things operate they end up with someone who is too busy or doesn't have time etc etc and some people get their stuff and others are still stuck waiting.

Having said that I do appreciate any and all movement forwards on this group buy and can't wait until it is finally completed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 19 August 2015, 15:06:41
Is there an update on the US side of things?  Not to be a pain, but it does suck on our side to still not have an idea of where things lie and seeing a good chunk of the international side going out.

Samwisekoi is in contact with TJ for taking over the US PCBs and the plates. He will then send them to other volunteers who will be shipping to the end points.

This happened last week. I have no news yet but I bet Samwisekoi will get all the boards soon.


That's the last thing I've seen about it. What concerns me is finding enough reliable volunteers to handle the shipping to the end points.

The way I see that going down is things get shipped 2 and 3 times and as is inevitable with how things operate they end up with someone who is too busy or doesn't have time etc etc and some people get their stuff and others are still stuck waiting.

Having said that I do appreciate any and all movement forwards on this group buy and can't wait until it is finally completed.

i think ive posted since then, but last i heard, samwisekoi was arranging the collection, and im waiting to be told where and how much money to send
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 19 August 2015, 15:10:12
That update Ray put is the last I saw.  It's very ambiguous and up in the air, that's why I was asking if we have any sort of update or confirmation.

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited to see this thing finally moving and am grateful for the work you put in bunny, just wondering about the US side of things.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jspark on Wed, 19 August 2015, 16:25:24
I'm in the US. not sure if my order shipped  Is there any place that i can check?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 August 2015, 16:28:37
I'm in the US. not sure if my order shipped  Is there any place that i can check?

No US orders have shipped yet, if you read the few posts above yours they highlight whats going on.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jspark on Wed, 19 August 2015, 16:31:49
I'm in the US. not sure if my order shipped  Is there any place that i can check?

No US orders have shipped yet, if you read the few posts above yours they highlight whats going on.

Thanks  SpAmRay
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Thu, 20 August 2015, 04:50:55
What's next Bunny?
Also about shipping, what happens to the orders that have assembly, do we have someone in EU assembling for the people yet?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 20 August 2015, 05:06:11
What's next Bunny?
Also about shipping, what happens to the orders that have assembly, do we have someone in EU assembling for the people yet?

so this is where we stand

i have contacted 5 of 6 batches of non conus orders, i have now shipped everyone who requested shipping on those first 5 batches

i will be contacting batch 6 shortly and doing the same

in the meantime i am working with swill who is putting together a quick update website linked to the sheet (need to message him back)

whilst this is happening, samwisekoi is currently arranging collection of the conus order from TJ

once he has those on hand, he will sort and send me the non conus stabs and plates, and i will ship those to the people in batches 1-6 who replied to my pms

anyone who hasnt replied to me by the time i have completed that, will go in batch 7, where i will try and email them and then wait for a response

i have spoken to several people who have donated soldering time, and im now confident we wont have an issue with either conus or non conus on building
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Thu, 20 August 2015, 05:22:18
Oh man that's great news, am I in batch 7 then seeing I'm one of the special cases who took over an unpaid order directly from the GB-head?
it's amazing how you did most of this during your move!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 20 August 2015, 05:24:26
Oh man that's great news, am I in batch 7 then seeing I'm one of the special cases who took over an unpaid order directly from the GB-head?
it's amazing how you did most of this during your move!

well my kid is being born in 5/6 weeks so im doing my best to get as much done as possible before then, because at first after the birth my time is gonna be much more limited

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Thu, 20 August 2015, 08:43:31
Oh man that's great news, am I in batch 7 then seeing I'm one of the special cases who took over an unpaid order directly from the GB-head?
it's amazing how you did most of this during your move!

well my kid is being born in 5/6 weeks so im doing my best to get as much done as possible before then, because at first after the birth my time is gonna be much more limited

I would suggest not committing to anything for at least a month or two after your little one is born.  It changes **** in a very real way.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 20 August 2015, 10:17:36
Oh man that's great news, am I in batch 7 then seeing I'm one of the special cases who took over an unpaid order directly from the GB-head?
it's amazing how you did most of this during your move!

well my kid is being born in 5/6 weeks so im doing my best to get as much done as possible before then, because at first after the birth my time is gonna be much more limited

I would suggest not committing to anything for at least a month or two after your little one is born.  It changes **** in a very real way.  :)

+1 

It's the end of the world as you know it.   :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Thu, 20 August 2015, 10:34:01
I found that the first couple of weeks were mental and then there was like a 6-8 month period of calm, after which teeth started appearing, crawling started happening and sleeping for more than a few hours at a time was a dim and distant memory.

Still, it's great fun; so much so we did it twice :D.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Thu, 20 August 2015, 10:43:36
I found that the first couple of weeks were mental and then there was like a 6-8 month period of calm, after which teeth started appearing, crawling started happening and sleeping for more than a few hours at a time was a dim and distant memory.

Still, it's great fun; so much so we did it twice :D.

Ya, the first month you don't know which way is up.  Then you can start to figure out what is realistic to commit to and then once you think you have a system, then teething happens and your system is crap again.  Haha...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Thu, 20 August 2015, 10:52:20
We've just hit that point with our second; chicken pox, teething and crawling at the same time...luckily we're pretty quiet at work so I'm not getting hammered 24/7 :D.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kekstee on Thu, 20 August 2015, 12:12:18
The two years of waiting calmly turn into unexpected giddiness, now that the day comes near.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Luke on Fri, 21 August 2015, 03:10:12
Got my two PCB's through the post yesterday, many thanks Bunny and everyone else that's made this happen :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ter_ on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:16:46
Finally, I got the pcb thank everyone who supported this effort and contributed to this project.  :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tjweir on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:52:49
Finally, I got the pcb thank everyone who supported this effort and contributed to this project.  :D

Got my two PCB's through the post yesterday, many thanks Bunny :thumb:

OMG, it's happening.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pexon on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:18:11
Got my PCB in the other day. Got it all soldered up, but I am having some issues and I am just wondering if anyone else is having them. The m, k, i and 8 keys are not working at all. I've resoldered multiple switches in, the diodes are all in the correct position, but I can get them to work  :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:23:57
Got my PCB in the other day. Got it all soldered up, but I am having some issues and I am just wondering if anyone else is having them. The m, k, i and 8 keys are not working at all. I've resoldered multiple switches in, the diodes are all in the correct position, but I can get them to work  :(

Could be a pin on the controller that needs to be reflowed. Either that, or a bad diode in that column.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:39:55
Got my PCB in the other day. Got it all soldered up, but I am having some issues and I am just wondering if anyone else is having them. The m, k, i and 8 keys are not working at all. I've resoldered multiple switches in, the diodes are all in the correct position, but I can get them to work  :(

Could be a pin on the controller that needs to be reflowed. Either that, or a bad diode in that column.

if that doesnt work ill send you a replacement out of the cancelled orders
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: evert on Fri, 21 August 2015, 15:59:07
Would it make sense to start a thread with all the current firmware (source and binary) locations, dependencies, alternatives and it's status regarding the rev. c pcb?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 21 August 2015, 16:04:55
Received mine :)

Thanks all involved.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: komar007 on Fri, 21 August 2015, 16:15:42
Got my PCB in the other day. Got it all soldered up, but I am having some issues and I am just wondering if anyone else is having them. The m, k, i and 8 keys are not working at all. I've resoldered multiple switches in, the diodes are all in the correct position, but I can get them to work  :(

It looks like you're using some old firmware. Which one is this and which version?
m, k, i and 8 is column 9 which changed mcu pin between rev. A and rev. B
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Fri, 21 August 2015, 16:32:56
I can upload my working ISO hex if you want to try that Pexon?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Luke on Sat, 22 August 2015, 04:42:38
Would it make sense to start a thread with all the current firmware (source and binary) locations, dependencies, alternatives and it's status regarding the rev. c pcb?

Something like that would be great if we haven't already got one! I'm not going to be doing anything with my PCBs until I get the plates and stabs through, but I was just staring at the PCBs thinking "Well, where the hell do I start with these?", I've been out of the community and the GH60 threads for so long I can't remember how to custom keyboard anymore :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pexon on Sat, 22 August 2015, 08:48:07
Got my PCB in the other day. Got it all soldered up, but I am having some issues and I am just wondering if anyone else is having them. The m, k, i and 8 keys are not working at all. I've resoldered multiple switches in, the diodes are all in the correct position, but I can get them to work  :(

It looks like you're using some old firmware. Which one is this and which version?
m, k, i and 8 is column 9 which changed mcu pin between rev. A and rev. B


Can you link me to the right firmware then please dude?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Sat, 22 August 2015, 09:14:22
Got my PCB in the other day. Got it all soldered up, but I am having some issues and I am just wondering if anyone else is having them. The m, k, i and 8 keys are not working at all. I've resoldered multiple switches in, the diodes are all in the correct position, but I can get them to work  :(

It looks like you're using some old firmware. Which one is this and which version?
m, k, i and 8 is column 9 which changed mcu pin between rev. A and rev. B


Can you link me to the right firmware then please dude?

have you tried TMK? it takes a little study/reading to learn but it's a great firmware for a lot of boards (i have it on 2 different boards now) https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Sat, 22 August 2015, 09:28:48
Yeah, TMK all the way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: komar007 on Sat, 22 August 2015, 12:43:32
Got my PCB in the other day. Got it all soldered up, but I am having some issues and I am just wondering if anyone else is having them. The m, k, i and 8 keys are not working at all. I've resoldered multiple switches in, the diodes are all in the correct position, but I can get them to work  :(

It looks like you're using some old firmware. Which one is this and which version?
m, k, i and 8 is column 9 which changed mcu pin between rev. A and rev. B


Can you link me to the right firmware then please dude?

It's here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50685.0
I hope this helps.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Niall on Sat, 22 August 2015, 17:19:52
niall
replied, partial order of switches and 1 pcb packed and shipping this week

Received it earlier this week. Thanks to all the people that could make the GH60 GB possible!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sat, 22 August 2015, 18:25:12
batch 1
soulhunter - no reply
dr. marv - replied, pm sent requesting more info
kyesarri - no reply
wraul - no reply
phetto - no reply
bimbobb - no reply
luke - no reply
frukstund - replied, pm sent requesting more info
dirge - no reply
gropingmantis - replied, pm sent requesting more info
winther - no reply
razer1987 - replied, partial order being sent
mr.bean - no reply
simkev - no reply
tit - partial order shipped
plaskboks - replied, waiting for plates

Got no message...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 22 August 2015, 18:25:29
also check out this thread for firmware.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 22 August 2015, 18:38:18
batch 1
soulhunter - no reply
dr. marv - replied, pm sent requesting more info
kyesarri - no reply
wraul - no reply
phetto - no reply
bimbobb - no reply
luke - no reply
frukstund - replied, pm sent requesting more info
dirge - no reply
gropingmantis - replied, pm sent requesting more info
winther - no reply
razer1987 - replied, partial order being sent
mr.bean - no reply
simkev - no reply
tit - partial order shipped
plaskboks - replied, waiting for plates

Got no message...

weird, ill message you in with the next batch
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: iAmAhab on Mon, 24 August 2015, 04:44:53
Got my pcb today, bit surprised to find no switches. Thought I read that they were on hand and going out with the pcb's. Good thing I have a old cherry board just waiting to get ripped apart for parts.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 24 August 2015, 04:56:18
Got my pcb today, bit surprised to find no switches. Thought I read that they were on hand and going out with the pcb's. Good thing I have a old cherry board just waiting to get ripped apart for parts.

i havent got my sheet with me on this computer, but there was one order in the last batch i couldnt ship switches for, they had ordered blacks and i wasnt sent a single black switch with the switches, so i need to contact komar and find out if they are with him or on hand in the US with TJ

so essentially if it was you who ordered blacks thats why, if however you didnt order blacks, please send me a pm and ill get them sorted right away
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: iAmAhab on Mon, 24 August 2015, 05:04:01
Got my pcb today, bit surprised to find no switches. Thought I read that they were on hand and going out with the pcb's. Good thing I have a old cherry board just waiting to get ripped apart for parts.

i havent got my sheet with me on this computer, but there was one order in the last batch i couldnt ship switches for, they had ordered blacks and i wasnt sent a single black switch with the switches, so i need to contact komar and find out if they are with him or on hand in the US with TJ

so essentially if it was you who ordered blacks thats why, if however you didnt order blacks, please send me a pm and ill get them sorted right away

I did indeed order them sweet blacks. Oh well, better break out the old soldering iron and start the harvest. Thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 24 August 2015, 07:03:13
Got my pcb today, bit surprised to find no switches. Thought I read that they were on hand and going out with the pcb's. Good thing I have a old cherry board just waiting to get ripped apart for parts.

i havent got my sheet with me on this computer, but there was one order in the last batch i couldnt ship switches for, they had ordered blacks and i wasnt sent a single black switch with the switches, so i need to contact komar and find out if they are with him or on hand in the US with TJ

so essentially if it was you who ordered blacks thats why, if however you didnt order blacks, please send me a pm and ill get them sorted right away

I did indeed order them sweet blacks. Oh well, better break out the old soldering iron and start the harvest. Thanks for the reply.

ill get them sorted, i just didnt wanna hold up the rest of the package, its in my notes of stuff i need to confirm
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: komar007 on Mon, 24 August 2015, 10:54:55
Got my pcb today, bit surprised to find no switches. Thought I read that they were on hand and going out with the pcb's. Good thing I have a old cherry board just waiting to get ripped apart for parts.

i havent got my sheet with me on this computer, but there was one order in the last batch i couldnt ship switches for, they had ordered blacks and i wasnt sent a single black switch with the switches, so i need to contact komar and find out if they are with him or on hand in the US with TJ

so essentially if it was you who ordered blacks thats why, if however you didnt order blacks, please send me a pm and ill get them sorted right away

Cherry mx blacks were not ordered from 7bit, that's why I didn't send any.
In fact it's 7bit that ordered blacks from "us", so I'm assuming the GH60 portion of blacks are with TJ.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pexon on Wed, 26 August 2015, 15:32:52
Got my PCB in the other day. Got it all soldered up, but I am having some issues and I am just wondering if anyone else is having them. The m, k, i and 8 keys are not working at all. I've resoldered multiple switches in, the diodes are all in the correct position, but I can get them to work  :(

It looks like you're using some old firmware. Which one is this and which version?
m, k, i and 8 is column 9 which changed mcu pin between rev. A and rev. B


Can you link me to the right firmware then please dude?

It's here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50685.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50685.0)
I hope this helps.

Perhaps I am being a complete and utter noob; I have ZERO programming experience, so probably I am. Flashed Rev 3 to it but it doesn't help the issue.

Anyone want to help me?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: KyesaRRi on Wed, 26 August 2015, 21:47:54
Sorry for not being around, the duration of this group buy almost made me forget about it completely.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: bueller on Sat, 29 August 2015, 00:48:26
Are the final revision gerber files still slated for release now that this is wrapping up? I really want to work on adding a function row to the GH60 PCB sometime in the near future...

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43894.0;attach=23197;image)

Seriously, slap a winkey bottom row on that and I'd be in heaven.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 29 August 2015, 00:55:16
quick update regarding the boards in US.

They are finally moving to a better place :) I mean to samwisekoi that will sort and ship to the proxies.

Hold tight.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 29 August 2015, 01:06:54
Thanks for the US update.  It's good to hear.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: krbuck on Mon, 31 August 2015, 08:59:35
I missed this GB. I'd love to hear about any extras or anyone who wants to resell their PCB. Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 31 August 2015, 10:43:52
sorry i havent been through batch 6 yet

batch 6 is mainly the custom builds, so been waiting to get some info in place for that before contacting folks with options

everyone who replied late or hasnt replied in batch 1 - 5, i will be messaging you again some time this week
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 31 August 2015, 10:53:37
Thanks for the update Bunny  :thumb:

I am getting excited 'cause I am in batch 6  ;)

Didn't Bluebar offer to help out with soldering? I guess it would make sense if he did a build for a fellow German so there are minimal shipping costs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 31 August 2015, 11:09:39
quick update regarding the boards in US.

They are finally moving to a better place :) I mean to samwisekoi that will sort and ship to the proxies.

Hold tight.

Will addresses and orders be verified for US recipients at some point and by who?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 31 August 2015, 15:30:15
Didn't Bluebar offer to help out with soldering? I guess it would make sense if he did a build for a fellow German so there are minimal shipping costs.

I did, and I could build more than just for Germans since shipping costs from Germany to EU are very cheap. I'm already in contact with Bunny.

Can I get an update on the unpaid orders that were taken over? I would like to receive my own order before soldering up others :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Mon, 31 August 2015, 20:29:48
I think that I ordered a PCB in this buy.  I guess that I'll know when it shows up at my door one day.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 01 September 2015, 09:11:45
I missed this GB. I'd love to hear about any extras or anyone who wants to resell their PCB. Thanks!

There's going to be a lot of extras floating around, I know I can hook you up as I ordered way to much. Just waiting at this point though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: krbuck on Tue, 01 September 2015, 10:13:55
I missed this GB. I'd love to hear about any extras or anyone who wants to resell their PCB. Thanks!

There's going to be a lot of extras floating around, I know I can hook you up as I ordered way to much. Just waiting at this point though.
Awesome; thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: shoostep on Tue, 01 September 2015, 13:11:24
I would also like to jump in on a PCB.  If anyone is willing to let one go, let me know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 01 September 2015, 13:33:34
Same. Instead of us flooding the forum, could you put up a waiting list on google forms or something?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 01 September 2015, 13:43:36
Same. Instead of us flooding the forum, could you put up a waiting list on google forms or something?

Wait list? To fill from what? People who want to sell their orders once they receive them?

Best bet is simply to create a [WTB] thread in Classifieds. Not that anyone reads WTB threads...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 01 September 2015, 13:46:08
To fill from people with extras, obviously. It's far better than 20-30 WTB threads!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: braidn on Tue, 01 September 2015, 22:32:53
Yup, would also love to see some kind of thread/form for people wanting to sell there extra PCBs. Would definitely be in for one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: damorgue on Wed, 02 September 2015, 01:33:48
Great to finally see this GB moving again. Is there an ETA for the plates and stabs to Europe for those who elected to wait?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 02 September 2015, 02:15:00
who is the first European who declared interest in purchasing one?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Wed, 02 September 2015, 02:17:14
hmm well, i MOVED to europe after ordering :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: boost on Wed, 02 September 2015, 08:31:31
Same. Instead of us flooding the forum, could you put up a waiting list on google forms or something?

Wait list? To fill from what? People who want to sell their orders once they receive them?

Best bet is simply to create a [WTB] thread in Classifieds. Not that anyone reads WTB threads...

Just add "CLICKCLACK" to the thread title :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 02 September 2015, 08:52:39
To fill from people with extras, obviously. It's far better than 20-30 WTB threads!

Yup, would also love to see some kind of thread/form for people wanting to sell there extra PCBs. Would definitely be in for one.

I'll get a big thread (similar to the GMK Spacebar Communal Trading Hub (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57124.0)) set up once these start to ship more.   :thumb:  It will of course be subject to the same rules as the rest of Classifieds, so behave!  :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 02 September 2015, 09:00:18
Thank you! :D

I got the $20 alu plate from massdrop in the hopes of securing one of these plates, but there's no rush. I missed out on the GB, so I'm in the back of the line, I know that. But as long as there is a line, I'm happy to stand in it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: krbuck on Wed, 02 September 2015, 09:08:18
Thank you! :D

I got the $20 alu plate from massdrop in the hopes of securing one of these plates, but there's no rush. I missed out on the GB, so I'm in the back of the line, I know that. But as long as there is a line, I'm happy to stand in it.

I'm in *exactly* the same boat, but glad to wait a while. I suppose I can find a SPRiT board if there are not enough, but I'd prefer one of these.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hellerbarde on Wed, 02 September 2015, 09:25:46
I received my PCB and I soldered it up and flashed it with firmware
Code: [Select]
ukbdc_gh60-0.2_rc2_std_layout.hex. Turns out the 8-i-k-m Column is dead. How can I debug this?

The microcontroller doesn't have any solder bridges and no lifted pins as far as I can see.

Update: obligatory product shot. For keyboard science...?
(http://i.imgur.com/AzNR9pt.jpg?1) (http://imgur.com/AzNR9pt)

cheers
Heller Barde
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 September 2015, 09:39:59
I received my PCB and I soldered it up and flashed it with firmware
Code: [Select]
ukbdc_gh60-0.2_rc2_std_layout.hex. Turns out the 8-i-k-m Column is dead. How can I debug this?

The microcontroller doesn't have any solder bridges and no lifted pins as far as I can see.

cheers
Heller Barde

See komar's answer here:

Got my PCB in the other day. Got it all soldered up, but I am having some issues and I am just wondering if anyone else is having them. The m, k, i and 8 keys are not working at all. I've resoldered multiple switches in, the diodes are all in the correct position, but I can get them to work  :(

It looks like you're using some old firmware. Which one is this and which version?
m, k, i and 8 is column 9 which changed mcu pin between rev. A and rev. B


Can you link me to the right firmware then please dude?

It's here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50685.0
I hope this helps.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hellerbarde on Wed, 02 September 2015, 09:58:06

See komar's answer here:

Got my PCB in the other day. Got it all soldered up, but I am having some issues and I am just wondering if anyone else is having them. The m, k, i and 8 keys are not working at all. I've resoldered multiple switches in, the diodes are all in the correct position, but I can get them to work  :(

It looks like you're using some old firmware. Which one is this and which version?
m, k, i and 8 is column 9 which changed mcu pin between rev. A and rev. B


Can you link me to the right firmware then please dude?

It's here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50685.0
I hope this helps.

Whoops. I thought I had the very newest firmware. apparently not. Thanks a lot  :thumb:

It works now, Yay!

Check my previous post for the picture :)

cheers!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 02 September 2015, 09:58:19
See komar's answer here: ...

Pexon also said before: "Flashed Rev 3 to it but it doesn't help the issue."

maybe some of the pcbs are just defective? :/

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hellerbarde on Wed, 02 September 2015, 09:59:38
See komar's answer here: ...
...
maybe some of the pcbs are just defective? :/
It's all good for me now. Typing this on my new GH60 and the i, k m and 8 seem to work. ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Wed, 02 September 2015, 10:01:02
I've built three so far and had no problems with any of them using TMK (well, I can't get the caps LED working but I think that's probably my own coding deficiency than something wrong with the PCBs).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 September 2015, 10:09:19
The Easy AVR USB Keyboard Firmware and Keymapper (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0) by metalliqaz should also work great on Rev.B or Rev.C boards.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Wed, 02 September 2015, 10:47:30
To fill from people with extras, obviously. It's far better than 20-30 WTB threads!

Yup, would also love to see some kind of thread/form for people wanting to sell there extra PCBs. Would definitely be in for one.

I'll get a big thread (similar to the GMK Spacebar Communal Trading Hub (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57124.0)) set up once these start to ship more.   :thumb:  It will of course be subject to the same rules as the rest of Classifieds, so behave!  :P

Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 02 September 2015, 11:15:24
To fill from people with extras, obviously. It's far better than 20-30 WTB threads!

Yup, would also love to see some kind of thread/form for people wanting to sell there extra PCBs. Would definitely be in for one.

I'll get a big thread (similar to the GMK Spacebar Communal Trading Hub (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57124.0)) set up once these start to ship more.   :thumb:  It will of course be subject to the same rules as the rest of Classifieds, so behave!  :P

Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).

Thank you Swill.

Anywhere to check my order? It's been a while.. (OP's link doesn't work anymore)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 02 September 2015, 11:22:17
elton5354, I'm not sure if it's up to date or what, but this one still works for me https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit#gid=0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: trees on Wed, 02 September 2015, 11:29:47
To fill from people with extras, obviously. It's far better than 20-30 WTB threads!

Yup, would also love to see some kind of thread/form for people wanting to sell there extra PCBs. Would definitely be in for one.

I'll get a big thread (similar to the GMK Spacebar Communal Trading Hub (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57124.0)) set up once these start to ship more.   :thumb:  It will of course be subject to the same rules as the rest of Classifieds, so behave!  :P

Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).

Love this idea swill!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 02 September 2015, 11:33:08
oh c'mon I have one available, if you want it, PM me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Wed, 02 September 2015, 11:34:17
elton5354, I'm not sure if it's up to date or what, but this one still works for me https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit#gid=0

To fill from people with extras, obviously. It's far better than 20-30 WTB threads!

Yup, would also love to see some kind of thread/form for people wanting to sell there extra PCBs. Would definitely be in for one.

I'll get a big thread (similar to the GMK Spacebar Communal Trading Hub (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57124.0)) set up once these start to ship more.   :thumb:  It will of course be subject to the same rules as the rest of Classifieds, so behave!  :P

Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).

Thank you Swill.

Anywhere to check my order? It's been a while.. (OP's link doesn't work anymore)

I am not sure of the official status details just yet.  We are working out the details right now of getting the information exposed via a similar website as the one I just launched.  Hold tight and we should have something for you soontm.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Wed, 02 September 2015, 11:38:04
To fill from people with extras, obviously. It's far better than 20-30 WTB threads!

Yup, would also love to see some kind of thread/form for people wanting to sell there extra PCBs. Would definitely be in for one.

I'll get a big thread (similar to the GMK Spacebar Communal Trading Hub (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57124.0)) set up once these start to ship more.   :thumb:  It will of course be subject to the same rules as the rest of Classifieds, so behave!  :P

Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).

Love this idea swill!

Ya, I have most of the hard parts built at this point, so I can easily reuse the code to build interesting functionality.

I think this could work well for interest checks and such.  I can limit the columns of the spreadsheet that are exposed, so we could even run GBs through this type of tool and only expose the contents of the orders and no personal information.  This would let people see what the status of the buy is and if we are close to MOQ and which options need a push and such.  I think this functionality could have a lot of uses for us as a community...  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: trees on Wed, 02 September 2015, 11:39:57
To fill from people with extras, obviously. It's far better than 20-30 WTB threads!

Yup, would also love to see some kind of thread/form for people wanting to sell there extra PCBs. Would definitely be in for one.

I'll get a big thread (similar to the GMK Spacebar Communal Trading Hub (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57124.0)) set up once these start to ship more.   :thumb:  It will of course be subject to the same rules as the rest of Classifieds, so behave!  :P

Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).

Love this idea swill!

Ya, I have most of the hard parts built at this point, so I can easily reuse the code to build interesting functionality.

I think this could work well for interest checks and such.  I can limit the columns of the spreadsheet that are exposed, so we could even run GBs through this type of tool and only expose the contents of the orders and no personal information.  This would let people see what the status of the buy is and if we are close to MOQ and which options need a push and such.  I think this functionality could have a lot of uses for us as a community...  :)

(trying not to de-rail too much)

But that would be perfect. One of the biggest issues i always have with GBs is the level of organization like that. How many are ordered/ How many to hit MOQ/ etc.  This would greatly improve that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Wed, 02 September 2015, 11:40:08
To fill from people with extras, obviously. It's far better than 20-30 WTB threads!

Yup, would also love to see some kind of thread/form for people wanting to sell there extra PCBs. Would definitely be in for one.

I'll get a big thread (similar to the GMK Spacebar Communal Trading Hub (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57124.0)) set up once these start to ship more.   :thumb:  It will of course be subject to the same rules as the rest of Classifieds, so behave!  :P

Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).

Thank you Swill.

Anywhere to check my order? It's been a while.. (OP's link doesn't work anymore)

You are not reselling what I bought from you, are you.  :P  It was so long ago...  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 02 September 2015, 11:41:21
To fill from people with extras, obviously. It's far better than 20-30 WTB threads!

Yup, would also love to see some kind of thread/form for people wanting to sell there extra PCBs. Would definitely be in for one.

I'll get a big thread (similar to the GMK Spacebar Communal Trading Hub (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57124.0)) set up once these start to ship more.   :thumb:  It will of course be subject to the same rules as the rest of Classifieds, so behave!  :P

Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).

Awesome!  :thumb:  Definitely not against any rules on geekhack.  ;)  I'll get a thread up ASAP in Classifieds to incorporate this into.  I figure this will be a great tool to inventory sellers/buyers, and then we can use the existing geekhack infrastructure for communication.  You didn't have plans to increase the scope of your website to handle that aspect, did you?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Wed, 02 September 2015, 11:41:59
But that would be perfect. One of the biggest issues i always have with GBs is the level of organization like that. How many are ordered/ How many to hit MOQ/ etc.  This would greatly improve that.

Exactly...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Wed, 02 September 2015, 11:47:23
Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).

Awesome!  :thumb:  Definitely not against any rules on geekhack.  ;)  I'll get a thread up ASAP in Classifieds to incorporate this into.  I figure this will be a great tool to inventory sellers/buyers, and then we can use the existing geekhack infrastructure for communication.  You didn't have plans to increase the scope of your website to handle that aspect, did you?

Yes, I can build one off versions of this to handle individual GBs.  If this functionality is popular and more people want to use it, I would launch a GB landing page which would allow the user to view and participate in any registered GBs.  I would have to setup each by hand, but the process is pretty easy.  You create the form you want to use and you share the results spreadsheet with an email I give you and your site will go live (pretty much).

If this functionality is interesting at a larger scale I should probably create a thread for it specifically so we don't de-rail this thread...  :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 02 September 2015, 12:04:29
Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).

GH60 PCB/Plate/Component Communal Sale Hub (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74958.0) is live!  :thumb:

swill, if there are any changes you'd like me to make to the post at any time, just shoot me a PM.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 02 September 2015, 12:43:24
Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).

Could you add a field for location so that we can minimize postage? Thanks for the site, even better than what I envisioned :)

Edit: Also, I got confused and added my entry twice  :'(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Wed, 02 September 2015, 12:58:23
Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).

Could you add a field for location so that we can minimize postage? Thanks for the site, even better than what I envisioned :)

Edit: Also, I got confused and added my entry twice  :'(

Good call, I had not thought of that.  I added that.  Thanks...

No worries, I saw that and removed your second entry.

Edit: I updated everyone's entry who did not have the location option when they entered to what they have in their profile, hope you all don't mind...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: trees on Wed, 02 September 2015, 13:10:06
Not sure if this is against the rules or frowned upon, but I just wrote a little tool to help handle interest in buying or selling GH60 wares.

gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Let me know if you guys think this is OK.  I basically reused the same code that I wrote for bunny for the status website (which will probably be launched in the near future).

Could you add a field for location so that we can minimize postage? Thanks for the site, even better than what I envisioned :)

Edit: Also, I got confused and added my entry twice  :'(

Good call, I had not thought of that.  I added that.  Thanks...

No worries, I saw that and removed your second entry.

Edit: I updated everyone's entry who did not have the location option when they entered to what they have in their profile, hope you all don't mind...

The only other thing i could think of, is for sellers to say if they are selling items they already have in hand or if they know they ordered extras and are selling what is coming soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 September 2015, 13:13:45
The only other thing i could think of, is for sellers to say if they are selling items they already have in hand or if they know they ordered extras and are selling what is coming soon.

I was about to suggest the same thing.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Wed, 02 September 2015, 13:31:01
The only other thing i could think of, is for sellers to say if they are selling items they already have in hand or if they know they ordered extras and are selling what is coming soon.

I was about to suggest the same thing.
OK. I can add this...  Thanks for the feedback guys.

Edit: Ok, added...  I updated Elton's entry because I know he does not have the parts on hand.  I am not sure about matt3o though, so I did not update his entry.  Matt, ping me if you want to update your entry with the status of your possession of the parts.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: bueller on Sun, 06 September 2015, 08:58:16
The Easy AVR USB Keyboard Firmware and Keymapper (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0) by metalliqaz should also work great on Rev.B or Rev.C boards.

Oh man I hope it works now, I've got a Rev.B board and I couldn't get it working last time. Building a layout with TMK was painful so I haven't updated the layout since I built it, I'm a programmer by trade but I find C so confusing to read.

EDIT: Anyone familiar with PCB design know what software I should be using to open the files on github? Just downloading KiCAD now, want to try adding an F-row to the PCB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Sun, 06 September 2015, 13:38:02
The Easy AVR USB Keyboard Firmware and Keymapper (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0) by metalliqaz should also work great on Rev.B or Rev.C boards.

Oh man I hope it works now, I've got a Rev.B board and I couldn't get it working last time. Building a layout with TMK was painful so I haven't updated the layout since I built it, I'm a programmer by trade but I find C so confusing to read.

send wafflepc a message, he got it to work on my old rev B.

i'm not much of a programmer but i only use tmk for my customs. changing layouts in tmk doesn't really require any knowledge of C. just don't forget your commas...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vulpes on Mon, 07 September 2015, 09:19:20
What's up with releasing rev C source? My understanding is it should be released after GB ends, and since
hardware is shipping, now would be the time?

Thanks. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 07 September 2015, 09:38:24
What's up with releasing rev C source? My understanding is it should be released after GB ends, and since
hardware is shipping, now would be the time?

Thanks. :)
This group by is a long way from being over.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 07 September 2015, 09:44:10
What's up with releasing rev C source? My understanding is it should be released after GB ends, and since
hardware is shipping, now would be the time?

Thanks. :)
This group by is a long way from being over.

Seems a little futile waiting to release it at this point though I think. It was intended that way to keep the GH60's from being produced before GH members get their boards, that ship sailed a LONG time ago.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 07 September 2015, 09:45:02
What's up with releasing rev C source? My understanding is it should be released after GB ends, and since
hardware is shipping, now would be the time?

Thanks. :)
This group by is a long way from being over.

ive actually got almost all of my end now boxed up, just waiting for the plates and stabs, its taking up an entire room of my house

just waiting to hear what is going on on the US side of things, im eager to at least get my end sorted asap with the baby coming and all
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Mon, 07 September 2015, 11:33:53
hate to be a looping record, but what about batch 7, BunnyLake?
IF I'm in batch 7 altogether since I think I took over an unpaid CONUS order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mkaito on Mon, 07 September 2015, 11:56:40
I'm in batch 6 and haven't gotten notice. Not surprised, since he's waiting on stabs and plates and I ordered assembly. So I guess batch 7 is still out?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 07 September 2015, 12:16:40
hate to be a looping record, but what about batch 7, BunnyLake?
IF I'm in batch 7 altogether since I think I took over an unpaid CONUS order.

what about it sir?

i have posted earlier exactly what ive been doing and when things will get done

batches 1 - 5 i have shipped everyones order who requested to have it shipped early

batch 6 mainly consists of orders with soldering work or things i need to confirm

and batch 7 is for anyone who didnt reply, and anyones whose order was not on list

i have batches 1 - 5 all packed waiting on plates and stabs from the US, batch 6 im about to message but as its mainly soldering work orders, thatll need plates and stabs, but once ive done that, ill be on to batch 7 (the awkward batch)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kekstee on Mon, 07 September 2015, 12:46:30
I replied a week late on batch 5, what happend to those orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 08 September 2015, 07:35:33
as part 2 of my gh60s built by different users around the globe

UK edition

(http://i.imgur.com/lIHJLyD.jpg)

hzza very kindly put this board together for me and added a really nice personal touch

i couldnt be happier with how it came out

as an added UK twist, photekq gifted me this keyset some time ago, and ive been hanging on to it for the right project, and decided to have this board built around that keyset

so a huge thanks to both of those guys
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Qipz on Wed, 09 September 2015, 11:19:54
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lIHJLyD.jpg)


Oh man that looks so good
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: billnye on Wed, 09 September 2015, 11:20:57
Any updates from TJ recently?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 09 September 2015, 11:21:47
Any updates from TJ recently?

the last update im aware of was collection had been arranged and that was posted by matteo

i havent heard anything since that
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 09 September 2015, 13:09:12
as part 2 of my gh60s built by different users around the globe

UK edition

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lIHJLyD.jpg)


hzza very kindly put this board together for me and added a really nice personal touch

i couldnt be happier with how it came out

as an added UK twist, photekq gifted me this keyset some time ago, and ive been hanging on to it for the right project, and decided to have this board built around that keyset

so a huge thanks to both of those guys
Looks great. Glad to see the keyset in use. Which case is that?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kekstee on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:57:40
Looks like the hammer case thats waiting on my desk :c
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 09 September 2015, 20:09:49
almost sure is a Duck Poker
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 10 September 2015, 08:34:19
Apologies if I missed it somewhere, but is there a way to check if my order is still in queue?  I was checking my email, and see that I paid TJ for a GH60 order in 2013, but I don't see my order listed in any of the batches so far.  IIRC, it was for one of the universal 10x versions.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 10 September 2015, 09:14:51
Apologies if I missed it somewhere, but is there a way to check if my order is still in queue?  I was checking my email, and see that I paid TJ for a GH60 order in 2013, but I don't see my order listed in any of the batches so far.  IIRC, it was for one of the universal 10x versions.

Long time no see!

This was the latest update for US orders.

quick update regarding the boards in US.

They are finally moving to a better place :) I mean to samwisekoi that will sort and ship to the proxies.

Hold tight.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 11 September 2015, 13:14:05
almost sure is a Duck Poker

it is yeah, the original one
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: battletux on Mon, 14 September 2015, 13:41:45
as part 2 of my gh60s built by different users around the globe

UK edition

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lIHJLyD.jpg)


hzza very kindly put this board together for me and added a really nice personal touch

i couldnt be happier with how it came out

as an added UK twist, photekq gifted me this keyset some time ago, and ive been hanging on to it for the right project, and decided to have this board built around that keyset

so a huge thanks to both of those guys


Could you post the firmware being used? O want to do this with my 2nd board.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: wlly on Wed, 16 September 2015, 03:44:04
Anyone from batch 5 who didn't elect to wait for stabs etc already receive their PCBs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Wed, 16 September 2015, 04:09:14
as part 2 of my gh60s built by different users around the globe

UK edition

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lIHJLyD.jpg)


hzza very kindly put this board together for me and added a really nice personal touch

i couldnt be happier with how it came out

as an added UK twist, photekq gifted me this keyset some time ago, and ive been hanging on to it for the right project, and decided to have this board built around that keyset

so a huge thanks to both of those guys


Could you post the firmware being used? O want to do this with my 2nd board.

easyavr or tmk work with gh60
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Wed, 16 September 2015, 04:33:35
TMK in that particular case. If anyone wants the source files send me a PM with your email address and I'll send them over.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Wed, 16 September 2015, 04:57:44
with all the gh60s about to be released into the wild maybe  a github repo could be useful? if so i set one up, we can set it up for collab usage if anyone is interested.

https://github.com/guinanseyebrows/GH60-TMK-configs
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Wed, 16 September 2015, 05:05:38
Yeah, I should get around to setting up a github at some point...

It's a good idea though, and I'm happy to help out if I can. Just let me know if you need anything from me :D.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Sotongball21 on Thu, 17 September 2015, 00:35:34
Hey my userame is spelt wrongly. :D
Its sotongball21 not soctongball21

Thanks!

batch 1
soulhunter
dr. marv
kyesarri
wraul
phetto
bimbobb
luke
frukstund
dirge
gropingmantis
winther
razer1987
mr.bean
simkev
tit
plaskboks

batch 2
aleksander
asura
evert
4li4z
osxoep
multipla
zoidbergslo
tradet
forestfunk
xauser
hankz
jmneuv
pexon
sth
vardhana
hirsti
lordbadger
isman

batch 3
freester
kennyr
reality404
edrago
lumune
wanzago
jbert
nickwalt
fabspeed
gruener_salat
ter_
selektam
battletux
caaaarrrt

batch 4
cyberwave
komar007
kekstee
pasph
cyanogenoid
limmy
georgek
paperdollman
dsan
kaiserreich
eon
pix3l_fodder
hasu
laggy_gaga
realex
hellerbarde
damorgue
niall
paranopid

batch 5
wlly
pixelscript
iamahab
tdub
kurrk
4814
guilleguillaume
maxmalkav
bear95
korne
batmann
txepox
mauri
acanthopis
adagio
flamingchook
broadmonkey
v4mp1
photekq
feature
mikelittoris
tams
neal
dgsbllx
tinlong117
relcc
aranair
agodinhost
tai92
dzeams
jonesless85

batch 6
mm87
nask
vorn
plater
hoggy
bvtton
soctongball21
mkaito
bugsaint
lechnerde
emonkak
gallenos7
kmynis
midg1t
netdevil
agor
raphdu57
zenuty
stoic-lemon
snoozeymon
mickd
hiya
robstero
laladila
alexjp
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: rddm on Thu, 17 September 2015, 08:38:44
There will be a new Group buy?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 17 September 2015, 09:56:56
There will be a new Group buy?

I'd personally like to see this one finished first.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: rddm on Thu, 17 September 2015, 11:04:50
There will be a new Group buy?

I'd personally like to see this one finished first.

oh sorry, didn't saw that isn't finish. what happens?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Broadmonkey on Thu, 17 September 2015, 12:11:10
Easy mistake to make when the thread is more than 2 years old.
Read the last few pages to know what will happen next.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 19 September 2015, 03:26:56
Whats going on over the merca to hold up shipments? Are they on their way over the ocean? You've spoilt me now Bunny!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 20 September 2015, 15:32:02
How's the American orders handover to samwise going?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 20 September 2015, 22:11:50
How's the American orders handover to samwise going?
The silence isn't comforting. :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Tue, 22 September 2015, 10:30:48
Well it's not been that long since we were told that the handoff was going to happen. Give it another six months. I'm sure it'll be handed over by then.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 22 September 2015, 11:00:25
How's the American orders handover to samwise going?
The silence isn't comforting. :/

sorry i hadnt seen this post

ill chase up whatever info i can find out tonight
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 26 September 2015, 05:29:27
Did you find out any further information on whats going on with the plates etc...? Seems like we hit a dead end again after the fantastic run you put on.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: gimpster on Tue, 29 September 2015, 16:04:17
It seems we've been having quite a hard time getting someone to figure out the current status of U.S. orders...anyone know the skinny?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 29 September 2015, 20:43:12
It seems we've been having quite a hard time getting someone to figure out the current status of U.S. orders...anyone know the skinny?

This is the last update...

quick update regarding the boards in US.

They are finally moving to a better place :) I mean to samwisekoi that will sort and ship to the proxies.

Hold tight.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 29 September 2015, 21:00:08
It seems we've been having quite a hard time getting someone to figure out the current status of U.S. orders...anyone know the skinny?

This is the last update...

quick update regarding the boards in US.

They are finally moving to a better place :) I mean to samwisekoi that will sort and ship to the proxies.

Hold tight.
One month ago. :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 30 September 2015, 10:37:25
I have a question that will probably bring out the white knight squad; has the money for shipping the US stuff been handed over or is that still in limbo too?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:33:56
I have a question that will probably bring out the white knight squad; has the money for shipping the US stuff been handed over or is that still in limbo too?

i have the money, it has not been transferred, not because im holding it hostage, i simply havent been asked to transfer it, or told where to do so, or had a quote of how much it is

to be clear, this isnt down to TJ, form what i understand, he will make himself available for the handoff once it is arranged

because im in the UK, its very hard for me to personally arrange, its also not really mine to do, but i am on hand for any assistance i am asked for, last i heard it was in hand and being taken care of, but ill chase it up again now, and post any info i am given
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:41:15
ok i have spoken to matteo who was copied in to the conversation  between samwisekoi and tj, what i believe is currently the case is samwisekoi has provided his courier account to tj, and it is being sorted at his earliest convenience, once i here or find out anymore, ill update further
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:44:27
ok i have spoken to matteo who was copied in to the conversation  between samwisekoi and tj, what i believe is currently the case is samwisekoi has provided his courier account to tj, and it is being sorted at his earliest convenience, once i here or find out anymore, ill update further

TJ's or samwisekoi's?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:32:51
I have a question that will probably bring out the white knight squad; has the money for shipping the US stuff been handed over or is that still in limbo too?

i have the money, it has not been transferred, not because im holding it hostage, i simply havent been asked to transfer it, or told where to do so, or had a quote of how much it is

to be clear, this isnt down to TJ, form what i understand, he will make himself available for the handoff once it is arranged

because im in the UK, its very hard for me to personally arrange, its also not really mine to do, but i am on hand for any assistance i am asked for, last i heard it was in hand and being taken care of, but ill chase it up again now, and post any info i am given

Oh I was never implying that any money was being held hostage. I was just wondering if you had gotten all the money or not.
Awesome to know that it's all been moving along.

Thanks for the update about samwise etc too by the way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kekstee on Thu, 01 October 2015, 09:08:18
Has there been any post here that actually confirmed shipped orders from batches which I overlooked? I requested the PCB over a month ago and never got it or a real answer. (Well, his new family member might be some work as well, I can respect that)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 01 October 2015, 11:32:32
Has there been any post here that actually confirmed shipped orders from batches which I overlooked? I requested the PCB over a month ago and never got it or a real answer. (Well, his new family member might be some work as well, I can respect that)

if you replied to the pm from me outside of the time i said i was shipping that batch, i will have added you to batch 7

i had a specific window i could ship within, i couldnt just sit around waiting for people to reply doing them one by one
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kekstee on Thu, 01 October 2015, 19:22:40
August 10th - batch pm

August 17th - late reply

everyone who replied late or hasnt replied in batch 1 - 5, i will be messaging you again some time this week
(never got that)

batches 1 - 5 i have shipped everyones order who requested to have it shipped early

I mean, it's really diffucult to deduct from this that the PCB hasn't shipped and has not gone missing during delivery, which is what I've been trying to find out all the time.
At least you could have mentioned that this was the one and only definite list:

Sorry for spamming here, it's just been two years coming down to a reply two hours after cutoff. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 02 October 2015, 09:59:35
Sorry for spamming here, it's just been two years coming down to a reply two hours after cutoff. :)

But you did have about 7 days to make the reply, right? And you waited until the last minute, and got the reply in after the cutoff? And you want to ***** at the one guy who is actually getting these things shipped, after so many delays and having them sit in a warehouse for months on end? :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Fri, 02 October 2015, 11:17:18
Sorry for spamming here, it's just been two years coming down to a reply two hours after cutoff. :)

But you did have about 7 days to make the reply, right? And you waited until the last minute, and got the reply in after the cutoff? And you want to ***** at the one guy who is actually getting these things shipped, after so many delays and having them sit in a warehouse for months on end? :)

+1
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 02 October 2015, 11:30:28
yeah im pretty floored at his post to be fair

this isnt my buy, im doing my best to help out, i have things of my own to run, and a baby due any minute, i have half the stuff and limited funds to ship, i cant simply sit around and wait for people to reply whenever they like and work from there

what i did was break up the orders in to batches, these were posted clearly before i contacted anyone

i broke them up in to batches so i could manage the workflow, with the very limited free time i have available

i posted clearly in the thread when iw as going to message each batch

i then messaged the batches, waited an allotted amount of time, which was often either posted in the message or the pm, regardless of which i always posted it, i then shipped all the orders who replied in that time

id then start over with th next batch, doing the same thing, if i had caught the pm from someone who was late, i sent that order with the next batch and posted about

i can get, without exaggeration, sometimes hundreds of pms a day, if its been 2 weeks say since you pm, going back to find it would be nearly impossible, particularly if i dont know to look for it

whatever my reasons, i dont need to justify myself, if i wasnt doing this, the pcbs would be sat in warehouse in china, so whatever my workflow is, its certainly faster that what was happening before, i dont want all this stuff sat in house, id love to get it cleared, particularly with my kid on the way, when taking this on i was under the impression the bulk of this would be handled by now, but i cant really do much more, without getting the plates and stabs from the US

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Fri, 02 October 2015, 11:42:48
yeah im pretty floored at his post to be fair

this isnt my buy, im doing my best to help out, i have things of my own to run, and a baby due any minute, i have half the stuff and limited funds to ship, i cant simply sit around and wait for people to reply whenever they like and work from there

what i did was break up the orders in to batches, these were posted clearly before i contacted anyone

i broke them up in to batches so i could manage the workflow, with the very limited free time i have available

i posted clearly in the thread when iw as going to message each batch

i then messaged the batches, waited an allotted amount of time, which was often either posted in the message or the pm, regardless of which i always posted it, i then shipped all the orders who replied in that time

id then start over with th next batch, doing the same thing, if i had caught the pm from someone who was late, i sent that order with the next batch and posted about

i can get, without exaggeration, sometimes hundreds of pms a day, if its been 2 weeks say since you pm, going back to find it would be nearly impossible, particularly if i dont know to look for it

whatever my reasons, i dont need to justify myself, if i wasnt doing this, the pcbs would be sat in warehouse in china, so whatever my workflow is, its certainly faster that what was happening before, i dont want all this stuff sat in house, id love to get it cleared, particularly with my kid on the way, when taking this on i was under the impression the bulk of this would be handled by now, but i cant really do much more, without getting the plates and stabs from the US

No need to explain yourself dude.  You have gotten this moving which is more than we can say for anyone else in the past year or so...  I am amazed with how far you have moved this along already given everything else going on right now.  Take care of yourself and Mrs Bunny...  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kekstee on Fri, 02 October 2015, 12:09:12
I don't mind his reasoning and am actually very grateful he got it moving, I just tried to get that one bit of information, that people not on the quoted list would definately be batch 7. It never came. Also I did reply the second I was back from holidays without internet. You make it sound like I looked at the PM for seven days, pondering wether I should.

Not that it matters, of course, at least now I know whats up and what I'm waiting for (while creating more drama and useless text than I ever inteded to)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 02 October 2015, 12:37:54
I don't mind his reasoning and am actually very grateful he got it moving, I just tried to get that one bit of information, that people not on the quoted list would definately be batch 7. It never came. Also I did reply the second I was back from holidays without internet. You make it sound like I looked at the PM for seven days, pondering wether I should.

Not that it matters, of course, at least now I know whats up and what I'm waiting for (while creating more drama and useless text than I ever inteded to)

ignore me im super snappy today

had to deal with a couple of real *******s so as a result im just snapping at anyone

i totally understand how hard it is waiting for something like this, hell a huge motivating factor for me taking this on was i wanted mine

shoot me your address via pm and what was in your order again, and illl get it out next time im shipping, most likely monday or tuesday, although i must say if my wife goes in to labour between now and then itll be delayed slightly
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hoggy on Fri, 02 October 2015, 13:33:27
Bunny,

If it helps you in any way, I'm happy for you to sort my order out last.  You've got more important things to do and this is pretty much the only gesture I can make. You have my respect and trust.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Fri, 02 October 2015, 16:26:35
Bunny,

If it helps you in any way, I'm happy for you to sort my order out last.  You've got more important things to do and this is pretty much the only gesture I can make. You have my respect and trust.

He has a system he is working with.  It is easiest for him to not make exceptions to the system he has in place for the most part.  If he can act on his system without having to worry about edge cases it makes things simpler.  I am sure he appreciates the thought, but I doubt it will actually make things simpler to make any changes to what he already has in place.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Sat, 03 October 2015, 05:59:53
TJ! SAM! WHERE DA PLATEZ BOIZ
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Lumune on Mon, 05 October 2015, 20:27:34
I just wanna apologize to Bunny for replying his pm so late, haven't been checking this site for a while.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: boost on Thu, 08 October 2015, 07:48:52
TJ! SAM! WHERE DA PLATEZ BOIZ

this^^
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Thu, 08 October 2015, 07:52:15
hi boost :) first reaper now your're posting again, feels like the olden days
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 08 October 2015, 08:39:17
I just wanna apologize to Bunny for replying his pm so late, haven't been checking this site for a while.

absolutely no need to apologise for late pms, many people in this buy either dont come here at all anymore, or very rarely

this buy is a logistical nightmare, but itll get there in the end
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 08 October 2015, 09:40:06
Still no update on the US side?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 08 October 2015, 13:40:46
Still no update on the US side?

Darn, I was also hoping for an update.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 08 October 2015, 13:42:30
Still no update on the US side?

Darn, I was also hoping for an update.

I heard that samwisekoi is dealing with some personal stuff at the moment, which may explain the absence.  I know we like to criticize anyone and everyone for that sort of stuff, but samwisekoi has always been reliable so I'd trust this one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 October 2015, 13:47:33
I'm calling it, GH centered keyboard projects are simply cursed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Thu, 08 October 2015, 15:01:41
Still no update on the US side?

Darn, I was also hoping for an update.

I heard that samwisekoi is dealing with some personal stuff at the moment, which may explain the absence.  I know we like to criticize anyone and everyone for that sort of stuff, but samwisekoi has always been reliable so I'd trust this one.

absolutely. but how about an update from the sending-side of the plates? have the plates been delivered to sam? should we be expecting the plates to be distributed to EU anytime soon?

i've met sam, i like sam. he caffeinated me greatly and i played his free-play shrek pinball machine during the DSA retro sorting party.

WAIT hey! he drugged me and made me sort keys!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 08 October 2015, 15:03:04
I heard everything was in Cali somewhere :o
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Thu, 08 October 2015, 15:03:52
I heard everything was in Cali somewhere :o

well, that's where sam is.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: njbair on Thu, 08 October 2015, 15:09:36
I'm calling it, GH centered keyboard projects are simply cursed.

Alps Party seems to be going smoothly so far. Maybe it's just MX stuff?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 08 October 2015, 15:26:53
This group buy is cursed, you get involved and you get life / personal problems! Hope Sam sorts it out and all is worked out on his end (personal issues, not the GB)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: boost on Fri, 09 October 2015, 15:00:07
hi boost :) first reaper now your're posting again, feels like the olden days

We taking this back to those days :D ...*whipping out the korean KB stash and CC stash*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 October 2015, 15:03:34
hi boost :) first reaper now your're posting again, feels like the olden days

We taking this back to those days :D ...*whipping out the korean KB stash and CC stash*

bost going retro
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Mon, 12 October 2015, 05:41:22
monday plate information request bump

my switches are en route

holding parties please inform us where our goods are

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 12 October 2015, 12:32:43
Is this genuine?

I don't know what to look for, I don't grok PCBs.

http://world.taobao.com/item/521328977024.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.HSCILD#detail
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 12 October 2015, 12:37:17
monday plate information request bump

my switches are en route

holding parties please inform us where our goods are

Nic Cage time

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/dc80560cd01327ba226160fcd453321a/tumblr_mvteiv7SOk1r01ax2o3_500.gif)

Who else is with me?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 12 October 2015, 19:59:05
Is this genuine?

I don't know what to look for, I don't grok PCBs.

http://world.taobao.com/item/521328977024.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.HSCILD#detail

I think that's a rev. B.  The ones from the group buy are rev. C (source is not released for rev. C yet).  There was a slight bug in rev. B that is fixed in rev. C, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: flabbergast on Tue, 13 October 2015, 04:41:54
I think that's a rev. B.  The ones from the group buy are rev. C (source is not released for rev. C yet).  There was a slight bug in rev. B that is fixed in rev. C, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was.
Here's my 2 cents: the Chinese should *really not* call their 60% boards GH60, it's purely marketing. Mind you, they are usually perfectly good and working 60% PCBs, but *not* GH60s. (The same MCU and the same form factor does not make a PCB into GH60.) They may have started with GH60 rev B, but generally they make a lot of changes to it.

However, this particular one looks very close to GH60 rev B, much more than the other ones I've seen on Taobao, but there are some changes visible (e.g. crystal and some solder jumpers). Hard to tell what other changes they've may have done - but I'd wager they do improve on rev B.

Here's a list of things you might care for, in which almost all taobao 60% "GH60"s differ from the GH60 proper (excluding the above linked PCB):
 - wiring (does not matter much if you use TMK, but any GH60 binary firmware will probably not work)
 - layout support (some do not support ISO)
 - backlighting (almost all Chinese boards do add support for that, and it's almost always "all leds at the same time/brightness", i.e. no possibility of individual LED control like it is on GH60 rev C)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 13 October 2015, 05:34:55
The first two doesn't matter to me, but the third one does. I want my layer change lighting!!!

I'm already ordering some cases from TaoBao though, so I've decided to add three Satan GH60 cards (which DEFINITELY isn't a proper GH60) because they're insanely cheap. I will be aiming to replace all three with proper GH60 as soon as they're available to me, since I wasn't in the GH60 GB. Of course, if I can do everything I want, including individual lighting for at least two fn buttons, then I might not bother.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 13 October 2015, 05:53:19

I think that's a rev. B.  The ones from the group buy are rev. C (source is not released for rev. C yet).  There was a slight bug in rev. B that is fixed in rev. C, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was.
Here's my 2 cents: the Chinese should *really not* call their 60% boards GH60, it's purely marketing. Mind you, they are usually perfectly good and working 60% PCBs, but *not* GH60s. (The same MCU and the same form factor does not make a PCB into GH60.) They may have started with GH60 rev B, but generally they make a lot of changes to it.

However, this particular one looks very close to GH60 rev B, much more than the other ones I've seen on Taobao, but there are some changes visible (e.g. crystal and some solder jumpers). Hard to tell what other changes they've may have done - but I'd wager they do improve on rev B.

Here's a list of things you might care for, in which almost all taobao 60% "GH60"s differ from the GH60 proper (excluding the above linked PCB):
 - wiring (does not matter much if you use TMK, but any GH60 binary firmware will probably not work)
 - layout support (some do not support ISO)
 - backlighting (almost all Chinese boards do add support for that, and it's almost always "all leds at the same time/brightness", i.e. no possibility of individual LED control like it is on GH60 rev C)

That's some good info right there!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Tue, 13 October 2015, 05:55:06
here's my 2 cents:

where are my plates?  >:D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: boost on Tue, 13 October 2015, 08:06:07
here's my 2 cents:

where are my plates?  >:D

Don't give a **** about the plates ;), Where are the PCB's
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: boost on Tue, 13 October 2015, 08:06:56
here's my 2 cents:

where are my plates?  >:D

Don't give a **** about the plates ;), Where are the PCB's!

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Tue, 13 October 2015, 08:10:04
here's my 2 cents:

where are my plates?  >:D

Don't give a **** about the plates ;), Where are the PCB's

same issue honestly...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: krbuck on Tue, 13 October 2015, 08:47:38
I'm looking for a GH60 PCB; if anyone has extra.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 13 October 2015, 08:50:10
I'm looking for a GH60 PCB; if anyone has extra.

Lots of us want our GH60 PCB, and plate and switches etc, the difference is we paid for them a long, long time ago. :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: krbuck on Tue, 13 October 2015, 09:07:21
I'm looking for a GH60 PCB; if anyone has extra.

Lots of us want our GH60 PCB, and plate and switches etc, the difference is we paid for them a long, long time ago. :P

Hehe. Yeah, I guess I'm getting a little impatient. I missed out on the last buy and all I can find are knock-offs. I'm getting my purple switches in the next few days; I guess they will sit there taunting me for some time to come.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 13 October 2015, 09:11:46
I'm looking for a GH60 PCB; if anyone has extra.

Lots of us want our GH60 PCB, and plate and switches etc, the difference is we paid for them a long, long time ago. :P

Hehe. Yeah, I guess I'm getting a little impatient. I missed out on the last buy and all I can find are knock-offs. I'm getting my purple switches in the next few days; I guess they will sit there taunting me for some time to come.  :)

I can guarantee when these finally get delivered you'll see tons in the classifieds. And I can relate I've now bought and sold multiple cases for my GH60 (just got the newest potential candidate over the weekend) and don't even use 60% boards but I still want it just to have a community inspired board.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Tue, 13 October 2015, 11:21:08
I'm looking for a GH60 PCB; if anyone has extra.

Lots of us want our GH60 PCB, and plate and switches etc, the difference is we paid for them a long, long time ago.

Hehe. Yeah, I guess I'm getting a little impatient. I missed out on the last buy and all I can find are knock-offs. I'm getting my purple switches in the next few days; I guess they will sit there taunting me for some time to come.  :)

I can guarantee when these finally get delivered you'll see tons in the classifieds. And I can relate I've now bought and sold multiple cases for my GH60 (just got the newest potential candidate over the weekend) and don't even use 60% boards but I still want it just to have a community inspired board.
Get a jump on the classifieds by registering your interest in buying or selling a GH60 here.

http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 October 2015, 11:25:04
I'm looking for a GH60 PCB; if anyone has extra.

Lots of us want our GH60 PCB, and plate and switches etc, the difference is we paid for them a long, long time ago.
Show Image
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Hehe. Yeah, I guess I'm getting a little impatient. I missed out on the last buy and all I can find are knock-offs. I'm getting my purple switches in the next few days; I guess they will sit there taunting me for some time to come.  :)

I can guarantee when these finally get delivered you'll see tons in the classifieds. And I can relate I've now bought and sold multiple cases for my GH60 (just got the newest potential candidate over the weekend) and don't even use 60% boards but I still want it just to have a community inspired board.
Get a jump on the classifieds by registering your interest in buying or selling a GH60 here.

http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/ (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Your site is very cool, you should extend it gradually to cover other families of products to assist the classifieds, that requires a lot of personal time looking for the items you need, or for selling the ones you do not need.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 13 October 2015, 11:45:17
Or we should redo the classified section here - it doesn't do very well when many people want the same thing and many other people have that same thing... Ish...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Tue, 13 October 2015, 13:22:40
I'm looking for a GH60 PCB; if anyone has extra.

Lots of us want our GH60 PCB, and plate and switches etc, the difference is we paid for them a long, long time ago.
Show Image
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji14.png)


Hehe. Yeah, I guess I'm getting a little impatient. I missed out on the last buy and all I can find are knock-offs. I'm getting my purple switches in the next few days; I guess they will sit there taunting me for some time to come.  :)

I can guarantee when these finally get delivered you'll see tons in the classifieds. And I can relate I've now bought and sold multiple cases for my GH60 (just got the newest potential candidate over the weekend) and don't even use 60% boards but I still want it just to have a community inspired board.
Get a jump on the classifieds by registering your interest in buying or selling a GH60 here.

http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/ (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)

Your site is very cool, you should extend it gradually to cover other families of products to assist the classifieds, that requires a lot of personal time looking for the items you need, or for selling the ones you do not need.
Unfortunately I do not have a good way for you to remove yourself from the market at this point, so you have to PM me to remove your listing. This implementation was something I did in a few hours and is not well suited for an extended use case (yet).  I am currently working on a GH PM search application for some of the guys who get like 100 PMs a day. Once I finish that I will switch back to the generic "run a group buy" application I was working on before (basic framework is in place).  I can look into a better solution for classifieds, but I don't see myself getting to that for at least 6 months given all the other projects I am working at right now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Mon, 19 October 2015, 09:55:21
semi-regular bump. wheres muh plate
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 19 October 2015, 12:05:38
semi-regular bump. wheres muh plate

Everything's different.  Everything's the same.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Tue, 20 October 2015, 02:04:18
semi-regular bump. wheres muh plate

Everything's different.  Everything's the same.

well yeah, cause if it wasnt i wouldnt be here complaining
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 20 October 2015, 21:26:13
So the original order confirmation page is broken now...?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Luke on Thu, 22 October 2015, 08:51:54
So the original order confirmation page is broken now...?

Has been for a while buddy. JDCarpe was able to confirm mine for me :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Thu, 22 October 2015, 08:53:55
yo GIMME DAT GAD DANGLIN PLATE
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 24 October 2015, 22:00:26
It's sad that this project has seen so many delays, it would be great to see all these boards getting built eventually.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 24 October 2015, 22:27:46
It's sad that this project has seen so many delays, it would be great to see all these boards getting built eventually.

Who knows if they'll even be buildable when we finally get them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 26 October 2015, 12:47:21
I'll be amazed if I see the USA packages get shipped before 2016.

To the people involved; I have to change my address for real this time. I wasn't fussed about you not noting down the change when I talked to you about it last time (getting close to 2 years ago now?), but this time we are moving out of the house in Philly, and the wife is going to Norway, so I have to register a new address.
Who is in charge of those changes now?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: cyberwave on Mon, 26 October 2015, 15:18:06
are the plates in yet?

i opted to wait for the plates to be in before my order is sent out in whole.

this was more than 2 months ago :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 26 October 2015, 15:27:24
are the plates in yet?

i opted to wait for the plates to be in before my order is sent out in whole.

this was more than 2 months ago :(

None of the items that were in the USA have been distributed yet. The latest status was the person who was going to take it over and get things shipping ran into some personal problems.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 26 October 2015, 23:37:23
Need to change address, is there any guaranteed way to do it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 27 October 2015, 10:46:32
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hN9VR32vYmU/UxtsITwRPqI/AAAAAAAABq8/0dNjeSMV1qc/s1600/HelloDarkness.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 27 October 2015, 10:49:24
Need to change address, is there any guaranteed way to do it.

I would suggest any and all US-based address changes wait until we have a US distributor ready to send packages, and send your address change to that person then.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Tue, 27 October 2015, 22:50:03
Show Image
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hN9VR32vYmU/UxtsITwRPqI/AAAAAAAABq8/0dNjeSMV1qc/s1600/HelloDarkness.gif)


This. This is amazing. I was laughing my ass off.

Is there any other way to help? I'd offer to help ship things, but I have a tiny apartment, and no idea how to do it. But I really REALLY don't want to see this sink into the inky black depths again. FLOAT DAMMIT!

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Wed, 28 October 2015, 04:46:09
Show Image
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hN9VR32vYmU/UxtsITwRPqI/AAAAAAAABq8/0dNjeSMV1qc/s1600/HelloDarkness.gif)


This. This is amazing. I was laughing my ass off.

Is there any other way to help? I'd offer to help ship things, but I have a tiny apartment, and no idea how to do it. But I really REALLY don't want to see this sink into the inky black depths again. FLOAT DAMMIT!



there is no way to help until the rest of the parts are located and shipped from their current location to a distributor.

somebody supposedly has things that we paid for and they are not making any visible effort to give them to the people that paid for them.

if this was a company holding our goods we would have grounds to initiate a class action.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Thu, 29 October 2015, 10:44:20
Actually, I'll flat out offer to help out. I don't want to see this die again :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 29 October 2015, 12:23:02
Actually, I'll flat out offer to help out. I don't want to see this die again :(

I've offered to help many times and been answered with the sound of silence.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Thu, 29 October 2015, 17:33:46
Actually, I'll flat out offer to help out. I don't want to see this die again :(

I've offered to help many times and been answered with the sound of silence.

Even better. with multiple people in the US willing to handle it, you can cover the west side, and I'll cover the east :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Thu, 29 October 2015, 20:26:08
well, i guess it's good that someone got something out of all this. Wasn't me though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: boost on Fri, 30 October 2015, 08:17:52
Actually, I'll flat out offer to help out. I don't want to see this die again :(

I've offered to help many times and been answered with the sound of silence.

I also offered to help
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 31 October 2015, 17:04:10
Bunny, is it okay for you to send the stuff you have to me? I think the stuff in US is going to be a write off tbh!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: daerid on Thu, 05 November 2015, 01:37:57
Holy hell, two and a half years... this GB must be cursed
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 05 November 2015, 01:40:59
Holy hell, two and a half years... this GB must be cursed

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/3999359/flushing-money-o.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Thu, 05 November 2015, 01:42:59
Holy hell, two and a half years... this GB must be cursed

hey is your username from WoT?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 05 November 2015, 06:32:00
Holy hell, two and a half years... this GB must be cursed
This and the phantom stuff has always seemed cursed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: daerid on Thu, 05 November 2015, 08:13:39

Holy hell, two and a half years... this GB must be cursed

hey is your username from WoT?

Hadn't thought about it in years, but yeah actually it is.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Thu, 05 November 2015, 08:26:47

Holy hell, two and a half years... this GB must be cursed

hey is your username from WoT?

Hadn't thought about it in years, but yeah actually it is.

I just got to his introduction in TFoH :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: thegagne on Mon, 09 November 2015, 20:05:07
This GB single handedly killed my enthusiasm for custom keyboards.

If things had gone well, and I received my board within, say, six months of order, I would likely have built it, learned a thing or two, and been ready to move on to something better.

But instead I have just money tied up here that I have to just walk away from, and I will be satisfied with my Cherry G80 until it dies (never?).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 09 November 2015, 20:06:58
This GB single handedly killed my enthusiasm for custom keyboards.

If things had gone well, and I received my board within, say, six months of order, I would likely have built it, learned a thing or two, and been ready to move on to something better.

But instead I have just money tied up here that I have to just walk away from, and I will be satisfied with my Cherry G80 until it dies (never?).


It probably never dies.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 09 November 2015, 20:24:59
It's been two and a half years since I paid at this point. 

(https://organisedclutter.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/im-just-losing-faith-in-humanity.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 09 November 2015, 20:28:22
Hoping for a Christmas miracle

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/4KxeicCUTvhrW/200_s.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 09 November 2015, 20:29:23
At this point I've spent a few hundred dollars on 60% cases and I don't even use 60% boards at all, I just wanted this as a display piece.  :-\
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 10 November 2015, 05:32:05
hey guys, sorry i havent been very active on this thread

when i get some time, ill chase up and find out as best i can whats going on with US orders

for everyone outside the US

i have pcbs and switches on hand here, id love for them not to be in my hosue so at any point if anyone wants that part of there order that doesnt have it already just send me a pm and ill get it straight to you

sadly for people with orders including plates, mx blacks, or diy kits, i cant do anything until i have them, i am waiting on US stuff just like you guys

when taking this on i had assumed my side of this would be done by now, but whenever the US side of thinks works itself out ill have my side done in a jiffy

whilst im adjusting to having my kid, im a bit slow to reply, and my browsing time is non existent,  so writing to me in threads is a bad idea, but shoot me a pm, itll go to my email and ill be going through them as and when i can

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 11 November 2015, 14:49:48
Thanks Bunny, I know you're not the US organizer but its cool to build up some hope.

Maybe we can get a new address confirmation/change form is put up for the US when that is figured out wth is going on, i can't be the only one with a Address Change and I am worried this will go to my old address. USPS does not forward packages only letters.

Its crazy how long this group buy has been going on, the hype has long passed :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mkaito on Wed, 11 November 2015, 15:47:19
Still waiting patiently. Holding off on throwing my faulty 6Gv2 out the window while waiting for this.

I've skimmed the last couple pages, and it seems we're (those of us who ordered plates) waiting for plates to somehow materialize? Does someone have them and is busy/MIA, or are they stuck in the production pipeline?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 November 2015, 15:49:36
Still waiting patiently. Holding off on throwing my faulty 6Gv2 out the window while waiting for this.

I've skimmed the last couple pages, and it seems we're (those of us who ordered plates) waiting for plates to somehow materialize? Does someone have them and is busy/MIA, or are they stuck in the production pipeline?

Everything has been produced the plates are all sitting somewhere in US waiting for shipping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 11 November 2015, 15:49:58
Still waiting patiently. Holding off on throwing my faulty 6Gv2 out the window while waiting for this.

I've skimmed the last couple pages, and it seems we're (those of us who ordered plates) waiting for plates to somehow materialize? Does someone have them and is busy/MIA, or are they stuck in the production pipeline?

They were produced long ago. ApocalypseMaow had a local shop make them using my CAD drawings, and when TJ paid for them with the group buy funds, they were delivered to TJ. That's the last I heard of the status. They are supposed to be transferred to samwisekoi for distribution, but I don't know where the holdup is there.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 November 2015, 16:21:49
I fear somewhere there's someone's grandma using the plates to prop up the uneven leg on her kitchen table. :-(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 12 November 2015, 21:25:40
So I've been working with a PS rep for the past week and we got on a brief discussion about keyboards, I type on a 104 at work and after talking for a bit I pulled out my TKL to which they asked, have you typed on a 60%. I got quiet for a moment, and just said "well someday I hope to"
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 13 November 2015, 05:52:29
does this need another intervention?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 13 November 2015, 05:54:34
ive heard no news on the US side since being told collection was being arranged
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 November 2015, 05:55:47
does this need another intervention?
This just needs to get done. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 13 November 2015, 11:07:08
ookay. let me activate some of my drones.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mauri on Fri, 13 November 2015, 11:47:20
Still waiting patiently. Holding off on throwing my faulty 6Gv2 out the window while waiting for this.

I've skimmed the last couple pages, and it seems we're (those of us who ordered plates) waiting for plates to somehow materialize? Does someone have them and is busy/MIA, or are they stuck in the production pipeline?

They were produced long ago. ApocalypseMaow had a local shop make them using my CAD drawings, and when TJ paid for them with the group buy funds, they were delivered to TJ. That's the last I heard of the status. They are supposed to be transferred to samwisekoi for distribution, but I don't know where the holdup is there.

there's chatter on the streets that samwisekoi is building his own iron throne from the plates. more at 9.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: electrogeek007 on Sun, 15 November 2015, 09:59:57
*performs once-every-few-months check of this thread*

*sighs dejectedly and closes tab*

At least I have more time to find/buy a case for the GH60 since I keep procrastinating on that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 20 November 2015, 11:11:56
Rofl
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 20 November 2015, 11:16:07
ookay. let me activate some of my drones.
Did the drones revolt and take you hostage?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 20 November 2015, 11:40:48
Every time I come into this thread:

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltsph4uqEd1qfl54bo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: DanielT on Fri, 20 November 2015, 12:10:40
I think we should have something like GB Therapy, this isn't the only thread were people feel like that ...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 20 November 2015, 12:25:23
shipped a bunch of gh60 orders today

out of everyone who messaged me i have like 2 left to ship as i didnt have adequate sized boxes
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 20 November 2015, 12:29:40
I think we should have something like GB Therapy, this isn't the only thread were people feel like that ...
I think there is one out there.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: DanielT on Fri, 20 November 2015, 12:48:34
I think we should have something like GB Therapy, this isn't the only thread were people feel like that ...
I think there is one out there.
Now if I think better I also remember such thread... got to start digging... time for a necropost

Edit: found it https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68658.0 and you made that one :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 20 November 2015, 13:04:20
shipped a bunch of gh60 orders today

out of everyone who messaged me i have like 2 left to ship as i didnt have adequate sized boxes

Good work, thanks Bunny :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: duq on Fri, 20 November 2015, 16:55:59
shipped a bunch of gh60 orders today

out of everyone who messaged me i have like 2 left to ship as i didnt have adequate sized boxes

Good stuff Bunny!

Hope US stuff can make it for a holiday miracle of some sort...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 20 November 2015, 17:15:51
Hope US stuff can make it for a holiday miracle of some sort...

(https://collegeannex.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/c3po.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 20 November 2015, 18:13:16
I almost forgot about this gb, again.

I want to join the Leandren gb but I  feel weird going after another 60% considering this one didn't finish, yet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: njbair on Fri, 20 November 2015, 19:28:45
Hope US stuff can make it for a holiday miracle of some sort...

Show Image
(https://collegeannex.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/c3po.gif)

Let the Euro's have their day. We Americans will just have to settle for being first for literally every other group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 21 November 2015, 01:06:29
Let the Euro's have their day. We Americans will just have to settle for being first for literally every other group buy.

Hey, I have no problem with them being first, I have a problem with us being thrust into another lightless hole while Buffalo Bill tells us to take it and rub lotion on ourselves.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 21 November 2015, 12:21:51
the drones have been deployed. now waiting for response.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Sat, 21 November 2015, 16:24:17
swear to god if i have to submit second transcontinental address change since placing my order...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 23 November 2015, 14:23:11
Bunny, are you just shipping them regardless now? or are you referring to US orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 23 November 2015, 14:39:05
Bunny, are you just shipping them regardless now? or are you referring to US orders?

He's EU only.  North America is still sitting around with their thumbs up their asses.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 23 November 2015, 14:39:51
Bunny, are you just shipping them regardless now? or are you referring to US orders?

He's EU only.  North America is still sitting around with their thumbs up their asses.

ROFL
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 23 November 2015, 14:52:42
Bunny, are you just shipping them regardless now? or are you referring to US orders?

He's EU only.  North America is still sitting around with their thumbs up their asses.

Oh **** I've been doing it wrong this whole time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 23 November 2015, 14:54:11
Bunny, are you just shipping them regardless now? or are you referring to US orders?

He's EU only.  North America is still sitting around with their thumbs up their asses.

Oh **** I've been doing it wrong this whole time.

sounds like im on the wrong team
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 23 November 2015, 15:23:59
Bunny, are you just shipping them regardless now? or are you referring to US orders?

He's EU only.  North America is still sitting around with their thumbs up their asses.

Oh **** I've been doing it wrong this whole time.

sounds like im on the wrong team

I have very large thumbs :-(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 23 November 2015, 15:24:25
Bunny, have you sent the orders to all EU batches?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 23 November 2015, 16:06:53
Bunny, have you sent the orders to all EU batches?

no, we cant do that until i get the plates, stabs, mx blacks and controllers for the diy kits from the us
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 23 November 2015, 17:09:54
no, we cant do that until i get the plates, stabs, mx blacks and controllers for the diy kits from the us

sorry, I was referring to "pcb only" shippings ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Mon, 23 November 2015, 17:43:06
The rest of the world that doesn't include the EU or US will be shipped from the US, correct? If so, 'Doh!'
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 23 November 2015, 19:52:48
The rest of the world that doesn't include the EU or US will be shipped from the US, correct? If so, 'Doh!'

Yup.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 24 November 2015, 12:44:04
lastest update is that we need suitable boxes to ship all those duranium plates. trying to fix that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kinruan on Wed, 25 November 2015, 01:05:54
for gods sake anyone please tell me how is this going on? i totally forget about it and suddenly remember i still have two 60% :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Wed, 25 November 2015, 01:36:32
soooooo hooray. by the time the plates get sorted out i'll have moved continents twice :D

i am trying to sell my PCB which is in the UK with bunny ATM, but i am still interested in my plates when I get back to the US. who should i contact about that?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: rddm on Wed, 25 November 2015, 06:03:30
soooooo hooray. by the time the plates get sorted out i'll have moved continents twice :D

i am trying to sell my PCB which is in the UK with bunny ATM, but i am still interested in my plates when I get back to the US. who should i contact about that?

I can take the pcb
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Wed, 25 November 2015, 07:26:21
soooooo hooray. by the time the plates get sorted out i'll have moved continents twice :D

i am trying to sell my PCB which is in the UK with bunny ATM, but i am still interested in my plates when I get back to the US. who should i contact about that?
If you haven't sold them already, you can check out the gh60-market.swillkb.com (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: sth on Wed, 25 November 2015, 07:38:00
soooooo hooray. by the time the plates get sorted out i'll have moved continents twice :D

i am trying to sell my PCB which is in the UK with bunny ATM, but i am still interested in my plates when I get back to the US. who should i contact about that?
If you haven't sold them already, you can check out the gh60-market.swillkb.com

listed the pcb. still want my plates... i'm not sure who controls the 'master' list of who's where and what they ordered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hargon on Sun, 29 November 2015, 10:17:04
I'd probably like to buy a PCB ... I am in Germany, though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 29 November 2015, 10:23:10
just packed up about 20 more pcbs as per people requests

they are being dropped off tomorrow
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hargon on Sun, 29 November 2015, 12:09:24
Are there any PCBs available?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BlueBär on Sun, 29 November 2015, 12:17:41
Are there any PCBs available?

You're two and a half years late.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 29 November 2015, 12:24:16
Are there any PCBs available?

According to Swill's list (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/) Matt3o has one for sale from Italy, but sth has sold his so not sure if the list is up to date.

Edit: No :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: rddm on Sun, 29 November 2015, 12:35:19
just packed up about 20 more pcbs as per people requests

they are being dropped off tomorrow
included mine? (sth pcb)


matt3o don't have it anymore. The sellers need to send message to swill. He is the only one that can remove them!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Sun, 29 November 2015, 22:35:53
just packed up about 20 more pcbs as per people requests

they are being dropped off tomorrow
included mine? (sth pcb)


matt3o don't have it anymore. The sellers need to send message to swill. He is the only one that can remove them!
Yes, pm me if you need to update your entry in the list.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 30 November 2015, 03:31:20
just packed up about 20 more pcbs as per people requests

they are being dropped off tomorrow
included mine? (sth pcb)


matt3o don't have it anymore. The sellers need to send message to swill. He is the only one that can remove them!

yeah yours is being dropped off in about an hour
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: awkwrdm3 on Mon, 30 November 2015, 23:26:05
are these kits still being made? if so how do i get on the list?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: DanielT on Mon, 30 November 2015, 23:43:41
are these kits still being made? if so how do i get on the list?
Short answer : NO
Long one: This is a really old GB with a lot of issues and now orders started to move. So again NO.
And a piece of friendly advice, before you just post in a thread take some time and read it ;)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 01 December 2015, 08:09:11
And a piece of friendly advice, before you just post in a thread take some time and read it ;)

LOL! 110 pages of posts over nearly 3 years, just a little light reading.  :p


are these kits still being made? if so how do i get on the list?

As Daniel said, this is an old GB and has had a lot of issues. You should see some kits up in the classifieds once they ship out, but there are a lot more options out there if you're interested a 60% board.

For example, LeandreN just did a group buy for the Winkeyless B.face (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76809.0). That group buy just closed, but there are others out there. PM me if you have questions.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 01 December 2015, 08:45:20
And a piece of friendly advice, before you just post in a thread take some time and read it ;)

LOL! 110 pages of posts over nearly 3 years, just a little light reading.  :p
I've said "some" not "little" :p To be honest I would make this thread mandatory lecture, there are so many lessons to be learned from this GB. I've seen history repeat over and over again...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: rddm on Tue, 01 December 2015, 08:50:30
For european people that want want to sell the kit, will make money.
When they buy it, a dolar was 0.7 EUR, now is 0.95EUR. This gb was like a bank, you put money, and take profit after 3 years.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Tue, 01 December 2015, 09:38:08
To be honest I would make this thread mandatory lecture, there are so many lessons to be learned from this GB. I've seen history repeat over and over again...

x2

also, this GB is like ending up buying a 56k modem when fiber optics are already available :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 01 December 2015, 10:52:51
And a piece of friendly advice, before you just post in a thread take some time and read it ;)

LOL! 110 pages of posts over nearly 3 years, just a little light reading.  :p
I've said "some" not "little" :p To be honest I would make this thread mandatory lecture, there are so many lessons to be learned from this GB. I've seen history repeat over and over again...

DanielT -- I agree. Well said. I was just giving you a little grief. Thanks for being a good sport.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Tue, 01 December 2015, 19:11:55
To be honest I would make this thread mandatory lecture, there are so many lessons to be learned from this GB. I've seen history repeat over and over again...

x2

also, this GB is like ending up buying a 56k modem when fiber optics are already available
This kit is pretty consistent with what you can get elsewhere right now.  The MOQ was hit to get pretty good pricing, so there will be deals to be had when most of these get into the market.

Totally agree on the lessons learned.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 03 December 2015, 10:52:13
lastest update is that we need suitable boxes to ship all those duranium plates. trying to fix that.
It sounds like we are so close.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:00:31
lastest update is that we need suitable boxes to ship all those duranium plates. trying to fix that.
It sounds like we are so close.

Matt posted yesterday boxes had been located, soon...or something like that but it was nuked with the roll back. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:18:56
yeah TJ has ordered the missing boxes. I hope to get the plates/pcbs moving in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:21:27
lastest update is that we need suitable boxes to ship all those duranium plates. trying to fix that.
It sounds like we are so close.

Matt posted yesterday boxes had been located, soon...or something like that but it was nuked with the roll back. :D

Roll back? Thanks for mentioning this, I felt like I was taking crazy pills because I knew I had read that update but then couldn't find it today.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: madderoftime on Wed, 09 December 2015, 13:54:22
Ok, so I'm in the US, haven't moved or changed email addresses, paid hundreds of USD in full God knows when in history and have confirmation of such. If I am reading correctly we are still waiting for something? The boards that have the SM stuff done are even longer or has someone actually been honestly working on that and should have it completed?
Since getting involved with this I have had surgery on both hands and can't even use this narrow a setup now so will be selling most everything. However, not until I actually have it all.
Did not see in the thread yet - is this thing even going to work on USB3 or faster?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 09 December 2015, 13:58:37
I can remember when I joined GH that this GB was on the payment phase and today it is still in progress, wow, you are really patience guys.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 December 2015, 13:59:07
Ok, so I'm in the US, haven't moved or changed email addresses, paid hundreds of USD in full God knows when in history and have confirmation of such. If I am reading correctly we are still waiting for something? The boards that have the SM stuff done are even longer or has someone actually been honestly working on that and should have it completed?
Since getting involved with this I have had surgery on both hands and can't even use this narrow a setup now so will be selling most everything. However, not until I actually have it all.
Did not see in the thread yet - is this thing even going to work on USB3 or faster?

It's all been done and sitting for a good long while now. As far as we've been told no one has done anything with the items in the US except pile them up.

We are waiting on the items to go from TJ to someone somewhere who will then hopefully send them out to buyers or send them out to other people who will send them out to buyers.

So basically nothings changed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: madderoftime on Wed, 09 December 2015, 14:51:09
OK, since what has occurred thus far is the equivalent of fraud, has anyone done anything legally yet in the US? Geekhack is protected by their user agreement and this is not Geekhack at fault here. The person that takes money from people in return for work and then doesn't do that work is not protected by that. Especially when you get into thousands of USD. Also, accepting the funds makes this a job. So using the excuse of real life is ridiculous. Taking money makes this as real life a job as any. So thoughts?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Wed, 09 December 2015, 15:13:37
Things are moving and you need to take a deep breath.

Yeah, **** has gone wrong during this GB, but unlike a bunch of other ones, things have actually been created, and will be shipped (to the best of knowledge).

This whole place is run by enthusiasts (besides a couple of notable exceptions), and they're volunteering their time and energy. Yes, **** goes wrong but if you have a problem, there's always volunteering to help.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 09 December 2015, 15:18:07
OK, since what has occurred thus far is the equivalent of fraud, has anyone done anything legally yet in the US? Geekhack is protected by their user agreement and this is not Geekhack at fault here. The person that takes money from people in return for work and then doesn't do that work is not protected by that. Especially when you get into thousands of USD. Also, accepting the funds makes this a job. So using the excuse of real life is ridiculous. Taking money makes this as real life a job as any. So thoughts?


Captain obvious said so, all would agree with you pal, but it is basically the current state of affairs, unfortunately.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 09 December 2015, 15:18:10
Ignorance is bliss.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BrewCaps on Wed, 09 December 2015, 15:33:54
OK, since what has occurred thus far is the equivalent of fraud, has anyone done anything legally yet in the US? Geekhack is protected by their user agreement and this is not Geekhack at fault here. The person that takes money from people in return for work and then doesn't do that work is not protected by that. Especially when you get into thousands of USD. Also, accepting the funds makes this a job. So using the excuse of real life is ridiculous. Taking money makes this as real life a job as any. So thoughts?

I'm pretty sure the US Justice department is more concerned with Domestic Terrorism right now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 10 December 2015, 08:46:02
OK, since what has occurred thus far is the equivalent of fraud, has anyone done anything legally yet in the US? Geekhack is protected by their user agreement and this is not Geekhack at fault here. The person that takes money from people in return for work and then doesn't do that work is not protected by that. Especially when you get into thousands of USD. Also, accepting the funds makes this a job. So using the excuse of real life is ridiculous. Taking money makes this as real life a job as any. So thoughts?

Unfortunately, this is one of the risks in participating in a group buy and we've had quite a few fall to pieces over the past couple of years. As others have said, it's moving forward and reliable people are involved so it should only be a matter of time until it's resolved.

However, you can sue anyone for anything these days, so if you want to sue WhiteFireDragon (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15168) you most certainly can. Taking legal action has been discussed in other group buys and the consensus is that it probably isn't worth it in the long run. You'd be taking action, more-than-likely, across state lines and filing in small claims court for damages.

It is unfortunate that a group buy that started out so elegantly has degraded into such dis-array, but we're slowly climbing out of the hole and at least you're not alone in the process. We all have money tied up in this buy and many of us will not be getting the full amount back.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 10 December 2015, 09:01:16
from TJ to someone somewhere

to samwisekoi in California.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 10 December 2015, 09:03:34
from TJ to someone somewhere

to samwisekoi in California.

Ok wasn't sure because the last thing that was mentioned about samwisekoi was he was having some sort of issues.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: gimpster on Thu, 10 December 2015, 13:31:43
This whole place is run by enthusiasts (besides a couple of notable exceptions), and they're volunteering their time and energy. Yes, **** goes wrong but if you have a problem, there's always volunteering to help.

Being run by enthusiasts isn't a magic bullet for removing accountability...ESPECIALLY when people have paid real money for things. I'm so sick of people on this board continuing to further the expectation that there's no real responsibility involved when you start a Group Buy, or offer to fulfill some piece of it, and that when things go wrong (either through misfortune or your own negligence) that you don't owe anyone else anything for it. The organizers involved here may not have signed a legal document but the social contract when dealing with other people's property is pretty clear.

from TJ to someone somewhere

to samwisekoi in California.

You mean the same samwisekoi (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22227) that hasn't posted on the forum since May 29th or even logged into the forum since October 20th? So, we're effectively pinning all the hopes and dreams of ever receiving our property on a member who, despite being an Admin, is effectively an inactive member? I don't know about the rest of the folks here, but that just gives me all sorts of warm fuzzies down in my special place...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 10 December 2015, 13:37:10
OK, since what has occurred thus far is the equivalent of fraud, has anyone done anything legally yet in the US? Geekhack is protected by their user agreement and this is not Geekhack at fault here. The person that takes money from people in return for work and then doesn't do that work is not protected by that. Especially when you get into thousands of USD. Also, accepting the funds makes this a job. So using the excuse of real life is ridiculous. Taking money makes this as real life a job as any. So thoughts?

However, you can sue anyone for anything these days, so if you want to sue WhiteFireDragon (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15168) you most certainly can. Taking legal action has been discussed in other group buys and the consensus is that it probably isn't worth it in the long run. You'd be taking action, more-than-likely, across state lines and filing in small claims court for damages.

Yeah, if anyone wants to track WFD down and sue him, more power to ya.  Beyond that, we twiddle our thumbs in anticipation.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 10 December 2015, 18:10:55
Being run by enthusiasts isn't a magic bullet for removing accountability...ESPECIALLY when people have paid real money for things. I'm so sick of people on this board continuing to further the expectation that there's no real responsibility involved when you start a Group Buy, or offer to fulfill some piece of it, and that when things go wrong (either through misfortune or your own negligence) that you don't owe anyone else anything for it. The organizers involved here may not have signed a legal document but the social contract when dealing with other people's property is pretty clear.

Although I agree with you 100% from a technical and ethical perspective, the logistics of actually doing something is fairly limited. Feels like I'm throwing salt in the wound here, which I don't mean to, but reputation is about the only leverage we have. WFD has chosen to leave the community so our leverage is nil in this regard.


You mean the same samwisekoi (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22227) that hasn't posted on the forum since May 29th or even logged into the forum since October 20th? So, we're effectively pinning all the hopes and dreams of ever receiving our property on a member who, despite being an Admin, is effectively an inactive member? I don't know about the rest of the folks here, but that just gives me all sorts of warm fuzzies down in my special place...  :rolleyes:

Yes and the same samwisekoi that handled the fulfillment for one of the largest group buys (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40175.msg795044#msg795044) to great success, as well as other group buys (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61198.0) and has a long standing relationship with the community. He was also a big help in educating me on what to expect in the first group buy I helped ship (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45655.0).

Not seeing progress on the US side of this group buy doesn't add any confidence, I know, but personally, I was excited to learn that samwisekoi was stepping up to help us out. He's not the only one either and there are plenty of others standing in the wings to assist as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 10 December 2015, 19:50:47
I was going to check in and see if I could change my shipping address or if I still have an order, but I see this is going as usual, so I'll just back away.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:18:52
This whole place is run by enthusiasts (besides a couple of notable exceptions), and they're volunteering their time and energy. Yes, **** goes wrong but if you have a problem, there's always volunteering to help.

Being run by enthusiasts isn't a magic bullet for removing accountability...ESPECIALLY when people have paid real money for things. I'm so sick of people on this board continuing to further the expectation that there's no real responsibility involved when you start a Group Buy, or offer to fulfill some piece of it, and that when things go wrong (either through misfortune or your own negligence) that you don't owe anyone else anything for it. The organizers involved here may not have signed a legal document but the social contract when dealing with other people's property is pretty clear.


God no it's not any magic bullet. I'm out the materials for 2 GH60s myself not to mention I'm part of the SF40 GB. I'm pissed at WFD, TFR, and Schuyler Towne (he ran a kickstarter that still hasn't delivered) for what they pulled. I'm well aware of exactly what's at stake. There's a lot of responsibility that goes with starting a group buy. It's not something to be taken lightly. Running something this massive isn't simple or easy and one of the biggest reasons I've never tried is because I'm not sure I could finish it in a timely fashion.

But that doesn't make those that fail any less human. Would I trust WFD to ever run another GB? Hell no. Would I caution others against it? I'd flat out tell them getting involved with anything from him is complete idiocy. But, I also understand that very few of us here are "professional GB runners". Even the companies that do this professionally *cough cough MASSDROP cough cough* get NO end of complaints and issues The world isn't perfect, this is a great learning experience for every single one of us on what can happen when you try to create something. Sometimes **** goes south in horrible ways. Sometimes people aren't reliable. Sometimes stuff is way beyond your control and you get to sit there and watch the ship sink and get frustrated because you can't do anything.

Here we've got a chance to get our stuff. yeah, it's late, yeah, stuff got weird, yeah, they'll be outdated, but at least we're not in a situation like sherry where they just stopped fufilling on their orders (and that was a reputable store!) or DrugER who just scammed people out of their money. There are a couple of people who have actually handled group buys and done them well involved.

Bunny has run several group buys and is paying to fix TFR's mistakes out of pocket, not to mention actually got the boards out of china AND got the first boards out to people.
Samwisekoi has also run several group buys sucessfully.

People come here, post a rant of how they're pissed, threatening legal action or whatever, then dissapear. It neither helps find a solution nor makes those who have stepped up to fix it likely to continue doing it (why would you help the people threatening you?), or even make them want to continue helping. And I want my boards and switches and plates just as much as everyone else. So i'll keep offering constructive criticism, and offering to help instead, because I want to see this finished, not just showing up so I can make threats and leave. That doesn't help.

I hold the people who don't get it done responsible and won't do buisness with them again, but I'm not gonna go ape on those who don't have the capacity to follow through.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 11 December 2015, 05:34:49
samwisekoi is the most reliable and professional person I know on this forum. I trust him more than any other 10k-posts user here. If he really gets the pcbs and plates it would be the best thing happened to this GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Fri, 11 December 2015, 05:51:14
I can't think of many other members I would rather have trying to sort this mess out than Matt3o, Bunny, and Samwisekoi.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: madderoftime on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:01:14
I am more than willing to help as well. I asked what had been done as I was curious. I live in Michigan, have shipped freight many times through other companies and often take my own tractor trailer to pick up freight. I've shipped thousands of items in the past few years. What can I do to help? My other talents are not anything I can think here would be of use. (welding, masonry, carpentry, HVAC)
I do know the reality is if someone wants to get this done everything to do this shouldn't cost more than $350 USD to ship anywhere in the US. So if the parts are sitting somewhere can a more local person pick them up?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:05:25
I am more than willing to help as well. I asked what had been done as I was curious. I live in Michigan, have shipped freight many times through other companies and often take my own tractor trailer to pick up freight. I've shipped thousands of items in the past few years. What can I do to help? My other talents are not anything I can think here would be of use. (welding, masonry, carpentry, HVAC)
I do know the reality is if someone wants to get this done everything to do this shouldn't cost more than $350 USD to ship anywhere in the US. So if the parts are sitting somewhere can a more local person pick them up?

They are sitting in the DFW, TX area, if TJ still has them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:16:41
Has anyone besides TJ seen any of this stuff? Do we even know what shape it is in? Realistically what should be expected from PCB's that have been sitting for so long? Just trying to manage expectations.

Has anyone built a GH60 recently? Perhaps some of our EU friends?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:24:24
Has anyone besides TJ seen any of this stuff? Do we even know what shape it is in? Realistically what should be expected from PCB's that have been sitting for so long? Just trying to manage expectations.

Has anyone built a GH60 recently? Perhaps some of our EU friends?

I know Bunny had a GH60 built.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: DanielT on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:45:06
Has anyone besides TJ seen any of this stuff? Do we even know what shape it is in? Realistically what should be expected from PCB's that have been sitting for so long? Just trying to manage expectations.

Has anyone built a GH60 recently? Perhaps some of our EU friends?
The ones shipped in EU are OK, many people already built their boards and there were no problems reported. I just got my hands on one and I can say it looks fine, didn't see anything wrong. As soon as I have some time to build it I will be able to say more.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 11 December 2015, 10:06:24
Has anyone besides TJ seen any of this stuff? Do we even know what shape it is in? Realistically what should be expected from PCB's that have been sitting for so long? Just trying to manage expectations.

Has anyone built a GH60 recently? Perhaps some of our EU friends?

the pcbs i had were made at the same time and i have 4 built up and working with no issues
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 11 December 2015, 10:08:53
There are a lot of feels that we've been batting about in the last few posts and I don't mean to derail the conversation further, but I did find something interesting that might be worth a read.

Kickstarter is hiring an investigative journalist to write a story about the collapse of the Zano drone project on Kickstarter, its largest project ever to have been funded in Europe. (https://medium.com/@meharris/an-unusual-commission-f5171a156a05#.c4fe1pmjx)

This doesn't apply necessarily to this group buy, since GH didn't take a percentage of the funds collected, but it's a bold and interesting move by Kickstarter -- one that I like a lot.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 11 December 2015, 13:40:23
Has anyone besides TJ seen any of this stuff? Do we even know what shape it is in? Realistically what should be expected from PCB's that have been sitting for so long? Just trying to manage expectations.

Has anyone built a GH60 recently? Perhaps some of our EU friends?

I'd be happy with a picture at this point, just to confirm everything is still alive.


Of course, the last time anyone asked for pics, that turned into a mess with people accusing people of "not trusting" people and wanting to start a pitchfork mob. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 11 December 2015, 15:34:58
Has anyone besides TJ seen any of this stuff? Do we even know what shape it is in? Realistically what should be expected from PCB's that have been sitting for so long? Just trying to manage expectations.

Has anyone built a GH60 recently? Perhaps some of our EU friends?

I'd be happy with a picture at this point, just to confirm everything is still alive.


Of course, the last time anyone asked for pics, that turned into a mess with people accusing people of "not trusting" people and wanting to start a pitchfork mob. 

The DSA dolch/joker/redline groupbuy ruined the passion I once had for contributing to the keyboard enthusiast community. I am not comparing that group buy to this one. But I will not join any more group buys until I get what I bought from this one. Proof of life would help to at least give us some hope that this will eventually come to an end.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 11 December 2015, 15:56:35
Has anyone besides TJ seen any of this stuff? Do we even know what shape it is in? Realistically what should be expected from PCB's that have been sitting for so long? Just trying to manage expectations.

Has anyone built a GH60 recently? Perhaps some of our EU friends?

I'd be happy with a picture at this point, just to confirm everything is still alive.


Of course, the last time anyone asked for pics, that turned into a mess with people accusing people of "not trusting" people and wanting to start a pitchfork mob. 

The DSA dolch/joker/redline groupbuy ruined the passion I once had for contributing to the keyboard enthusiast community. I am not comparing that group buy to this one. But I will not join any more group buys until I get what I bought from this one. Proof of life would help to at least give us some hope that this will eventually come to an end.


Have a seat, or even better a bed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 11 December 2015, 16:34:17
I was just asking for a picture of the goods from TJ, which is a reasonable request based on the circumstances.
The original payment deadline was 06/30/13.
That is 2 and 1/2 years since I gave my money to TJ.
How is it not acceptable to ask for a picture of the goods?

Have a seat, or even better a bed.

WTF is this even supposed to mean?
I will not "Have a seat, or even better a bed". And I will not go down to your level of publicly, insulting others to try to get my way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 11 December 2015, 16:39:35
Have a seat, or even better a bed.

WTF is this even supposed to mean?

I took it to mean that if you're waiting to receive your goods from this buy before joining another group buy here, you might be waiting a while.

Sorry this buy made you jaded, bro. You gave a lot to this project. I think I will spill the secret next.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 11 December 2015, 16:40:45
sir go ahead. I don't even care at this point.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 11 December 2015, 16:41:57
None but a very few people know this, but domo donated a bunch of silver and gold metallic stickers with the GH60 logo, made by Shadovved, to this buy. Everyone's order was supposed to have one of each packed in as a surprise. He paid for them out of his own pocket, out of kindness and excitement for this group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 11 December 2015, 16:43:08
I was just asking for a picture of the goods from TJ, which is a reasonable request based on the circumstances.
The original payment deadline was 06/30/13.
That is 2 and 1/2 years since I gave my money to TJ.
How is it not acceptable to ask for a picture of the goods?

Have a seat, or even better a bed.

WTF is this even supposed to mean?
I will not "Have a seat, or even better a bed". And I will not go down to your level of publicly, insulting others to try to get my way.

hey good sir, i dont know what your full order looks like, but back when i was fairly new here you helped me get in to this buy, im not sure what you ordered as i say but i have a spare gh60 pcb on hand, tons of switches, lots of stabs, basically anything you may have ordered aside from a plate, and id be happy to gift it to you, i know that isnt what you are trying to achieve with your posts, but if you are also anxious for the board, perhaps this may help
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 11 December 2015, 16:43:29
None but a very few people know this, but domo donated a bunch of silver and gold metallic stickers with the GH60 logo, made by Shadovved to this buy. Everyone's order was supposed to have one of each packed in as a surprise.

what kind of makes this funnier is that I had Shadovved make them before he was deployed in the military and he has already came back after that tour of duty. This has been going on for so long...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 11 December 2015, 16:45:00
I was just asking for a picture of the goods from TJ, which is a reasonable request based on the circumstances.
The original payment deadline was 06/30/13.
That is 2 and 1/2 years since I gave my money to TJ.
How is it not acceptable to ask for a picture of the goods?

Have a seat, or even better a bed.

WTF is this even supposed to mean?
I will not "Have a seat, or even better a bed". And I will not go down to your level of publicly, insulting others to try to get my way.

hey good sir, i dont know what your full order looks like, but back when i was fairly new here you helped me get in to this buy, im not sure what you ordered as i say but i have a spare gh60 pcb on hand, tons of switches, lots of stabs, basically anything you may have ordered aside from a plate, and id be happy to gift it to you, i know that isnt what you are trying to achieve with your posts, but if you are also anxious for the board, perhaps this may help

I have a spare universal layout plate on hand that I will send, as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 11 December 2015, 16:45:21
I was just asking for a picture of the goods from TJ, which is a reasonable request based on the circumstances.
The original payment deadline was 06/30/13.
That is 2 and 1/2 years since I gave my money to TJ.
How is it not acceptable to ask for a picture of the goods?

Have a seat, or even better a bed.

WTF is this even supposed to mean?
I will not "Have a seat, or even better a bed". And I will not go down to your level of publicly, insulting others to try to get my way.

hey good sir, i dont know what your full order looks like, but back when i was fairly new here you helped me get in to this buy, im not sure what you ordered as i say but i have a spare gh60 pcb on hand, tons of switches, lots of stabs, basically anything you may have ordered aside from a plate, and id be happy to gift it to you, i know that isnt what you are trying to achieve with your posts, but if you are also anxious for the board, perhaps this may help

That's not needed but thanks for the gesture. I just want TJ to post and tell us wtf is going on.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Fri, 11 December 2015, 17:10:55
I can agree there. I'd love to see pictures to just see pictures.

What's a bummer is that I've been in the DFW area twice this year. I totally would have loved to just spend an extra weekend in the area and get stuff shipped.

TJ, if you even come this way anymore, it would be awesome to see pics, just to see them before they ship.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: n0rvig on Fri, 11 December 2015, 17:28:02
The DSA dolch/joker/redline groupbuy ruined the passion I once had for contributing to the keyboard enthusiast community. I am not comparing that group buy to this one. But I will not join any more group buys until I get what I bought from this one. Proof of life would help to at least give us some hope that this will eventually come to an end.

Feels. These ones sting a bit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 12 December 2015, 05:09:18
How long did the EU mainland PCB orders usually take to arrive? Supposedly mine is on its way for two weeks now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 12 December 2015, 05:10:33
How long did the EU mainland PCB orders usually take to arrive? Supposedly mine is on its way for two weeks now.

can take anywhere from 4 - 21 business days

normally on the earlier side of that, but what with christmas etc sometimes longer i guess
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: DanielT on Sat, 12 December 2015, 11:10:20
How long did the EU mainland PCB orders usually take to arrive? Supposedly mine is on its way for two weeks now.
I can tell you from my experience with packages from UK, these are shipped not by DHL but GLS, I never had one delivered by DHL. So if you didn't already done that, check on GLS website and see what's the status. They never hurry with a delivery. It takes around 7-10 days to get delivered, GLS has only some predefined days when they dispatch the parcels. Hope it helps.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Acanthophis on Sat, 12 December 2015, 14:57:01
Hey Bunny,
did you get my PM regarding shipping address change? Didn't receive a reply from you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Nask on Sat, 19 December 2015, 14:45:12
It's a bit difficult to catch recent news, what about batch 6 ? Especially for people like me (EU) order GH60 assembled :x
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 19 December 2015, 14:49:19
It's a bit difficult to catch recent news, what about batch 6 ? Especially for people like me (EU) order GH60 assembled :x

The plates are still somewhere in the US so no chance of getting an assembled board yet :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 19 December 2015, 23:23:30
Remember when we thought all we were waiting for were stab wires?

Thanks to the ones that have helped and tried to help this group buy get fulfilled.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: asura on Sun, 20 December 2015, 18:36:00
Remember when we thought all we were waiting for were stab wires was rev.c?

Thanks to the ones that have helped and tried to help this group buy get fulfilled.

Fixed.

But I echo the sentiment regarding the rescue party we now have on board, and those who have aided and abetted throughout the process.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Mon, 21 December 2015, 11:07:36
But I echo the sentiment regarding the rescue party we now have on board, and those who have aided and abetted throughout the process.

Rescue party. I like that.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:37:44
I hereby officially declare myself beaten if I can't have the boards moved by January 15th.

I tried all I could and we were able at least to move the boards from China, so this was not a complete disaster at least. I'll try again to get these US boards moving in the coming days, but if that doesn't happen you'll have to find yourself another idiot enthusiast who maybe will be luckier than myself.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:41:25
This is almost the saddest group buy on here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:42:51
This is almost the saddest group buy in here.

Almost? Which one(s) has/have been worse?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:43:23
This is almost the saddest group buy in here.

Almost? Which one(s) has/have been worse?

For me personally the smallfry 40% buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:43:57
This is almost the saddest group buy in here.

Almost? Which one(s) has/have been worse?
For me personally the smallfry buy.

I'll have to read up on that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:53:52
I hereby officially declare myself beaten if I can't have the boards moved by January 15th.

I tried all I could and we were able at least to move the boards from China, so this was not a complete disaster at least. I'll try again to get these US boards moving in the coming days, but if that doesn't happen you'll have to find yourself another idiot enthusiast who maybe will be more lucky than myself.
So is this entire buy hung up on TJ not shipping anything to samwisekoi?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:01:02
A little transparency would be nice.

What is the status of the US PCBs?  Where are they?

Who is holding the plates?

Who has the switches/stabs?

Have all the funds been transferred to the person who is supposed to be taking over?

This is beyond a cluster**** at this point and it honestly feels like a bunch of people standing around pointing fingers at others and saying it's not their problem.

Blame WFD all you want since he is the original source of the problem, but I feel beyond disrespected by TJ and his total lack of acknowledging anything that's going on and keeping everyone out of the loop. 

And I do want to thank Bunny and Matt3o for taking on parts of this huge mess to try and get it going somewhere.  I know it has to be equally frustrating for you guys.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:02:25
I hereby officially declare myself beaten if I can't have the boards moved by January 15th.

I tried all I could and we were able at least to move the boards from China, so this was not a complete disaster at least. I'll try again to get these US boards moving in the coming days, but if that doesn't happen you'll have to find yourself another idiot enthusiast who maybe will be more lucky than myself.
So is this entire buy hung up on TJ not shipping anything to samwisekoi?

yes, I guess the holiday season doesn't help, that's why I said Jan 15th
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:16:15
Okay, seriously.

i3oiler has offered to help, and has the required infrastructure (I trust samwisekoi, but he hasn't logged on in forever...?).

Can I just, like, drive to TX and pick up the stuff and drop it off in Chicago??
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:18:20
Okay, seriously.

i3oiler has offered to help, and has the required infrastructure (I trust samwisekoi, but he hasn't logged on in forever...?).

Can I just, like, drive to TX and pick up the stuff and drop it off in Chicago??

I'll put up $50 towards gas and even take you out to dinner if you pass by my place on the way.

I know Texas is a big place but how far is it for @jdcarpe to go get everything?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:19:52
Okay, seriously.

i3oiler has offered to help, and has the required infrastructure (I trust samwisekoi, but he hasn't logged on in forever...?).

Can I just, like, drive to TX and pick up the stuff and drop it off in Chicago??

do you have a huge car/pickup/van?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:21:05
Okay, seriously.

i3oiler has offered to help, and has the required infrastructure (I trust samwisekoi, but he hasn't logged on in forever...?).

Can I just, like, drive to TX and pick up the stuff and drop it off in Chicago??

do you have a huge car/pickup/van?

I drive a Subaru Outback.  Not huge, but definitely roomy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:32:00
Okay, seriously.

i3oiler has offered to help, and has the required infrastructure (I trust samwisekoi, but he hasn't logged on in forever...?).

Can I just, like, drive to TX and pick up the stuff and drop it off in Chicago??

do you have a huge car/pickup/van?

I drive a Subaru Outback.  Not huge, but definitely roomy.

I don't think that would be enough
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:34:12
I am not in this buy, but I would be willing to donate money and / or time if it would help it reach fulfillment.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:34:25
Okay, seriously.

i3oiler has offered to help, and has the required infrastructure (I trust samwisekoi, but he hasn't logged on in forever...?).

Can I just, like, drive to TX and pick up the stuff and drop it off in Chicago??

do you have a huge car/pickup/van?

I drive a Subaru Outback.  Not huge, but definitely roomy.

I don't think that would be enough

Perhaps if there were some pics of the goods we could better judge what size vehicle is required.  ;)  I could likely borrow something big enough if it's the only way to make progress here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:44:55
okay calm down. it seems things are finally moving. I'll keep you posted! Everything should go to Ron in the coming days.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: eyesmiles on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:46:08
Okay, seriously.

i3oiler has offered to help, and has the required infrastructure (I trust samwisekoi, but he hasn't logged on in forever...?).

Can I just, like, drive to TX and pick up the stuff and drop it off in Chicago??

I'll put up $50 towards gas and even take you out to dinner if you pass by my place on the way.


I am willing to donate $50 as well towards gas, any sort of uhaul rental etc. to help out.


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 December 2015, 14:10:44
okay calm down. it seems things are finally moving. I'll keep you posted! Everything should go to Ron in the coming days.

Excellent, great to hear!  I don't know about everyone else, but I am calm.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 21 December 2015, 14:13:19
I know Texas is a big place but how far is it for @jdcarpe to go get everything?

It's 387 miles each way, give or take, according to Google maps. I would go pick up everything, if needed, but the first chance I have would be  2016-01-09.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Mon, 21 December 2015, 17:25:47
Things moving is good news!

Seconded on tossing in some $$$ on shipping or something. I'm also willing to do solder work pro-bono (I've got a decently steady hand, and soldering through-hole isn't hard.), if we need volunteers.

Let's get this done. I wanna see people with GH60s and happy (or at least not angry) and this chapter closed out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: agor on Tue, 22 December 2015, 09:36:54
I have been reasonably quite here, but I have also invested about 240$ into this and would really love to see a picture of the hopefully shipped goods when they arrive at destination x and I think this would be in mostly everybodies interest
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 22 December 2015, 10:06:08
I know everyone wants a "proof of life" photo, but it doesn't seem like TJ is willing to do that. All I can tell you is that the switches for sure exist, as I had them all at one time, and shipped them to TJ. ApocalypseMaow has the plates made locally, and he shipped those to TJ, so we can assume those also exist. As the fab sent BunnyLake the EU PCBs, we can probably assume that they did in fact manufacture the US PCBs, and shipped them to TJ. Ivan seems to have shipped stabs elsewhere, so it's a pretty safe bet that he sent TJ the GB stabs, as well. So, I guess whenever TJ feels like shipping everything, we might see this move a bit.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 22 December 2015, 10:38:38
I know everyone wants a "proof of life" photo, but it doesn't seem like TJ is willing to do that. All I can tell you is that the switches for sure exist, as I had them all at one time, and shipped them to TJ. ApocalypseMaow has the plates made locally, and he shipped those to TJ, so we can assume those also exist. As the fab sent BunnyLake the EU PCBs, we can probably assume that they did in fact manufacture the US PCBs, and shipped them to TJ. Ivan seems to have shipped stabs elsewhere, so it's a pretty safe bet that he sent TJ the GB stabs, as well. So, I guess whenever TJ feels like shipping everything, we might see this move a bit.

Yeah, I think it's safe to say that it exists (I've never doubted that).  The pics for 'proof' would really just be to calm the nerves a bit, and tbh it takes literally a minute so that's the main reason people are still asking - not because it will mean much, but because "why not?"
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 22 December 2015, 10:39:54
I find it funny that he can't find time to take even a ****ty cell phone pic of the stuff, yet found the time to take almost 100 product shots last month.  Mkawa is getting shredded in the smallfry jd40 buy, but TJ gets a free pass.

I appreciate that people are working on it behind the scenes, but we really could do with some transparency to assuage the pain from the constant broken timelines and unkept promises.

And like Hoff said, the pics aren't too prove that they exist, but just to calm nerves, show that someone actually has them, and to show that they're not in rotting boxes and poor conditions.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 22 December 2015, 10:43:05
I find it funny that he can't find time to take even a ****ty cell phone pic of the stuff, yet found the time to take almost 100 product shots last month.  Mkawa is getting shredded in the smallfry jd40 buy, but TJ gets a free pass.

I appreciate that people are working on it behind the scenes, but we really could do with some transparency to assuage the pain from the constant broken timelines and unkept promises.

I have no horse in this race, but I agree entirely with this sentiment. It looks like this buy was started in March of 2013. I think at this point anyone who has invested their time and money into should be allowed to not only request, but demand some answers.

This is some shady "business" going on here.

Edit: It's WhiteFireDragon's fault.  :mad:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 22 December 2015, 10:46:46
I find it funny that he can't find time to take even a ****ty cell phone pic of the stuff, yet found the time to take almost 100 product shots last month.  Mkawa is getting shredded in the smallfry jd40 buy, but TJ gets a free pass.

I appreciate that people are working on it behind the scenes, but we really could do with some transparency to assuage the pain from the constant broken timelines and unkept promises.

I have no horse in this race, but I agree entirely with this sentiment. It looks like this buy was started in March of 2013. I think at this point anyone who has invested their time and money into should be allowed to not only request, but demand some answers.

This is some shady "business" going on here.

Just to clear things up for people who might not have been around when this started, it should be known that TJ had nothing to do with the original group buy (other than accepting payment - but no part in production or shipping).  He took over the shambles left by WhiteFireDragon, and frankly the buy would be entirely dead without TJ stepping up to do so.  So he certainly deserves our thanks for that.

What has happened since then is less than ideal, but it seems like people are forgetting (or simply didn't know) that TJ did not run this buy into the ground.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:23:02
what's up with the shark costume thing btw?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:23:44
if this is indeed moving in the next couple weeks, that is awesome.

Ron or whoever, just don't forget about address confirmation/changes that people need to make! I know im not the only one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:27:03
I find it funny that he can't find time to take even a ****ty cell phone pic of the stuff, yet found the time to take almost 100 product shots last month.  Mkawa is getting shredded in the smallfry jd40 buy, but TJ gets a free pass.

I appreciate that people are working on it behind the scenes, but we really could do with some transparency to assuage the pain from the constant broken timelines and unkept promises.

I have no horse in this race, but I agree entirely with this sentiment. It looks like this buy was started in March of 2013. I think at this point anyone who has invested their time and money into should be allowed to not only request, but demand some answers.

This is some shady "business" going on here.

Just to clear things up for people who might not have been around when this started, it should be known that TJ had nothing to do with the original group buy (other than accepting payment - but no part in production or shipping).  He took over the shambles left by WhiteFireDragon, and frankly the buy would be entirely dead without TJ stepping up to do so.  So he certainly deserves our thanks for that.

What has happened since then is less than ideal, but it seems like people are forgetting (or simply didn't know) that TJ did not run this buy into the ground.

Yep. In fact i've actually done group buys with TJ, and he's been nothing but prompt and efficient. He ran Klaxon which was my first group buy and it was a good experience.

This is a project TJ picked up to try and fix for the people who put in money, got involved and now people are at his door with pitchforks instead of going after the people who are fully responsible for this ****storm. WFD seems to have poofed and I see him getting very little flak at this point.

Tbh, I don't blame TJ for not wanting to even think about this buy. I'd imagine it's like putting off a term paper. You keep knowing you need to start it, but it keeps getting later and later and it just becomes more daunting and frustrating and you'll do anything else instead of doing that. It's easy once you're moving, but getting that initial push done has a mental block, and eventually everyone is yelling at you how you're not starting the paper and how stupid you're being, and that makes you want to do it even less. We've kinda done that to him.

Would I love some pictures? hell yes. Do I wanna see things shipped? 100% yes. I'm frustrated and have somewhat given up. I don't do large groupbuys that aren't run by companies anymore. But I'm more happy that this might actually finish out. Just let me know if I can help. Have Car/Will Travel/Solder/Pack/Ship/What have you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:31:00

what's up with the shark costume thing btw?

Shark lifestyle. There was a whole weekend on it. You must steer clear of off topic to have missed it till now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:34:16
what's up with the shark costume thing btw?

Halverson started this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77970.msg1976574#msg1976574) and it took on a life of it's own.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: agor on Tue, 22 December 2015, 12:09:48
I didn't mean to spark the discussion into the "blame territory" again and I am sorry for that.
I am in no way trying to blame anyone, I just want to see and get the feeling that something is moving. Even if its just a picture of friggin boxes, at least its something.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 22 December 2015, 12:58:20
there's me saying that it is moving. Just FYI, I'm the guy who had the EU boards moving when all seemed lost (of course all the heavy lifting was done by bunny).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 24 December 2015, 03:20:29
TJ is letting me know that the delivery guys were like O_____O when they saw the quantity of stuff to load and they will need to try again with a bigger truck :P

(http://donmillereducation.com/journal/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/we-re-gonna-need-a-bigger-boat.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 24 December 2015, 07:18:31
You guys seem to really like sharks  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 24 December 2015, 16:50:21
We've got a little Christmas miracle. The boards are on their way to Ron. They should arrive at destination early next year. I'll contact Ron next week to organize the next step (ie: shipping to proxies).

Merry Christmas to everybody.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 24 December 2015, 17:12:23
We've got a little Christmas miracle. The boards are on their way to Ron. They should arrive at destination early next year. I'll contact Ron next week to organize the next step (ie: shipping to proxies).

Merry Christmas to everybody.

Thanks again for all the work you and everybody else are putting into this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 24 December 2015, 17:16:55
We've got a little Christmas miracle. The boards are on their way to Ron. They should arrive at destination early next year. I'll contact Ron next week to organize the next step (ie: shipping to proxies).

Merry Christmas to everybody.

Thank you matt3o for your work.  Any reason Ron and TJ don't just communicate directly and post updates in here?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 24 December 2015, 17:23:59
We've got a little Christmas miracle. The boards are on their way to Ron. They should arrive at destination early next year. I'll contact Ron next week to organize the next step (ie: shipping to proxies).

Merry Christmas to everybody.

Thank you matt3o for your work.  Any reason Ron and TJ don't just communicate directly and post updates in here?

(http://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6i0amn1NX1rziwwco1_500.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 24 December 2015, 17:31:00
We've got a little Christmas miracle. The boards are on their way to Ron. They should arrive at destination early next year. I'll contact Ron next week to organize the next step (ie: shipping to proxies).

Merry Christmas to everybody.

Thank you matt3o for your work.  Any reason Ron and TJ don't just communicate directly and post updates in here?
Ron would have to login to post. :rolleyes:

And please for the love of all things keyboards don't use dorkvader as a proxy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 25 December 2015, 01:07:28
We've got a little Christmas miracle. The boards are on their way to Ron. They should arrive at destination early next year. I'll contact Ron next week to organize the next step (ie: shipping to proxies).

Merry Christmas to everybody.

Thank you matt3o for your work.  Any reason Ron and TJ don't just communicate directly and post updates in here?

Ron doesn't have time. TJ doesn't want to deal with all the **** this post is throwing. I'm happy to facilitate the process.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 25 December 2015, 01:11:06
We've got a little Christmas miracle. The boards are on their way to Ron. They should arrive at destination early next year. I'll contact Ron next week to organize the next step (ie: shipping to proxies).

Merry Christmas to everybody.

Thank you matt3o for your work.  Any reason Ron and TJ don't just communicate directly and post updates in here?

Ron doesn't have time. TJ doesn't want to deal with all the **** this post is throwing. I'm happy to facilitate the process.

I do have to say thanks for making sure things are moving and getting it going again.  It's good to see that we finally have progress.

That said, that's pretty ****ty of TJ.  All anyone was asking was an update for where things were from him and a rough idea of when things would ship.  No one was asking for his head, just him to acknowledge the situation.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 25 December 2015, 01:22:16
We've got a little Christmas miracle. The boards are on their way to Ron. They should arrive at destination early next year. I'll contact Ron next week to organize the next step (ie: shipping to proxies).

Merry Christmas to everybody.

Thank you matt3o for your work.  Any reason Ron and TJ don't just communicate directly and post updates in here?

Ron doesn't have time. TJ doesn't want to deal with all the **** this post is throwing. I'm happy to facilitate the process.

I'm having a hard time phrasing this in a way that doesn't sound confrontational, so please don't take it that way, but...if Ron doesn't have time to post in this thread, are we sure he has time to ship these boards out?  Again, I trust Ron and would never question his character; it just seems like the most reasonable follow up question.  :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 25 December 2015, 02:12:32
I'm having a hard time phrasing this in a way that doesn't sound confrontational, so please don't take it that way, but...if Ron doesn't have time to post in this thread, are we sure he has time to ship these boards out?  Again, I trust Ron and would never question his character; it just seems like the most reasonable follow up question.  :-[

if he said he can do it, I have no reason to think otherwise.

That said, that's pretty ****ty of TJ.  All anyone was asking was an update for where things were from him and a rough idea of when things would ship.  No one was asking for his head, just him to acknowledge the situation.

I really don't see the problem. We are resolving this, aren't we? It's not that he vanished into thin air.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: hasu on Fri, 25 December 2015, 02:16:41
We've got a little Christmas miracle. The boards are on their way to Ron. They should arrive at destination early next year. I'll contact Ron next week to organize the next step (ie: shipping to proxies).

Merry Christmas to everybody.

Great news! Thank you, Matt3o and guys involved with this thing.
Now, we need to post cute koi images to attract Ron to this thread? ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/yFAwRhll.jpg)

Happy holidays!

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 25 December 2015, 02:51:27
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 26 December 2015, 06:45:01
Glad to hear its making progress again. Hopefully bunny doesn't mind keeping a hold of some of our stuff while we wait :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tronbeaver on Sat, 26 December 2015, 09:51:26
We've got a little Christmas miracle. The boards are on their way to Ron. They should arrive at destination early next year. I'll contact Ron next week to organize the next step (ie: shipping to proxies).

Merry Christmas to everybody.

Thank you matt3o for your work.  Any reason Ron and TJ don't just communicate directly and post updates in here?
Ron would have to login to post. :rolleyes:

And please for the love of all things keyboards don't use dorkvader as a proxy.

What is wrong with DorkVader?

Oh, I just read that thread about him.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78169.0

What's with people not shipping product here at Geekhack?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 27 December 2015, 18:18:02
Glad to hear about the progress. Someday I hope to finally be able to put these in my hammer cases which have still been sitting in a box ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: evert on Tue, 29 December 2015, 05:01:36
Hi,

Do any of you guys have any more info on what bootloader and fuse settings is shipped with the GH60?

I am trying to make the ESC Led work but am unable to set/unset PF6.

In the documentation of the ATmega32u4 I read something about port F being a JTAG debugging port which can be disabled by the fuses...



Kind regards,

Evert
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 29 December 2015, 06:00:39
We've got a little Christmas miracle. The boards are on their way to Ron. They should arrive at destination early next year. I'll contact Ron next week to organize the next step (ie: shipping to proxies).

Merry Christmas to everybody.

Does this mean the plates and stabs too are moving?

Ya'll r doin lawds work.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 29 December 2015, 06:35:05

What's with people not shipping product here at Geekhack?

Is this a real question, or just a troll comment?  The vast majority of GB's, etc. go smoothly and with little drama. It's only the few that don't that get the attention and rage.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 29 December 2015, 08:47:04
What's with people not shipping product here at Geekhack?

Is this a real question, or just a troll comment?  The vast majority of GB's, etc. go smoothly and with little drama. It's only the few that don't that get the attention and rage.

I don't think I've seen a non-troll post from that guy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: viasacra89 on Tue, 05 January 2016, 22:12:01
At this rate, HL3 will come out before I get my keyboard completed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: qwack on Wed, 06 January 2016, 17:02:09
Good news from samwisekoi: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78434.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Rodgaroon on Thu, 07 January 2016, 08:38:10
At this rate, HL3 will come out before I get my keyboard completed.

Now you are just being silly  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 19 January 2016, 12:31:55
Any updates?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 19 January 2016, 12:39:18
Any updates?

I fear the ants got the best of samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: battletux on Wed, 20 January 2016, 02:34:26
Any idea's on the state of EU shipping?

Bunny contacted me (August '15) to say I was in group 3 but as the plates were not available I deferred until all the bits were together. I changed my mind a few weeks later and PM'd bunny but have heard nothing back.

So much for getting these by xmas..... Maybe they will be ready for christmas this year?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 20 January 2016, 03:17:25
Any updates?

I fear the ants got the best of samwisekoi

cursed?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Tym on Wed, 20 January 2016, 03:20:21
Any idea's on the state of EU shipping?

Bunny contacted me (August '15) to say I was in group 3 but as the plates were not available I deferred until all the bits were together. I changed my mind a few weeks later and PM'd bunny but have heard nothing back.

So much for getting these by xmas..... Maybe they will be ready for christmas this year?
Send another Pm to him :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 20 January 2016, 04:25:01
Any idea's on the state of EU shipping?

Bunny contacted me (August '15) to say I was in group 3 but as the plates were not available I deferred until all the bits were together. I changed my mind a few weeks later and PM'd bunny but have heard nothing back.

So much for getting these by xmas..... Maybe they will be ready for christmas this year?

Received your pm and replied

Sorry I missed your original pm, but j have put several posts in this thread chasing people up and asking anyone to contact me who has any pcb shipping left they want

Once I receive your details mentioned in the pm I'll get your pcbs out
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Wed, 20 January 2016, 14:36:23
Sorry bunny, are you saying you want to ship these out now regardless of plates being available? I'm still in the deferred group waiting for the plates
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Acanthophis on Thu, 21 January 2016, 15:54:52
[...]
Sorry I missed your original pm, [...]
What about my PM regarding address change?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Fri, 22 January 2016, 13:08:02
solved

a BIG thanks to @Hzza who compiled my ISO TMK firmware and make it work! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78955.0)

 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Bromono on Fri, 22 January 2016, 13:36:30
hi guys!

Guess I'm a noob (first time flashing a custom keyboard) but I can't get my GH60 working :(

I've flash firmware ukbdc_gh60-0.1.hex firmware using FLIP successfully and the keyboard did not respond any key press. Afterwards I've tried the latest ukbdc_gh60_revB-0.3-dev.hex, also flashed successfully but with the same result. Windows detects the keyboard on device manager but nothing works.

I've open FLIP again and seems that after the 0.3 firmware flash, it always gives and error on USB communication:

Show Image
(http://s22.postimg.org/wi2776p9t/image.jpg)


can someone help me?

Probably better to make a personal thread for this. You would get more views and not take away from this thread.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: tricheboars on Sat, 23 January 2016, 18:33:08
hey guys. its been over a year since i have been to the site. sorry. i was just wondering what is going on with my gh60 order?  crazy what happened to this buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 23 January 2016, 21:06:40
hey guys. its been over a year since i have been to the site. sorry. i was just wondering what is going on with my gh60 order?  crazy what happened to this buy.

Previous page has a link to the latest update https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78434.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 23 January 2016, 21:19:56
hey guys. its been over a year since i have been to the site. sorry. i was just wondering what is going on with my gh60 order?  crazy what happened to this buy.

Samwisekoi has them in California. He's working on getting them prepped to ship and will then get them sent out.  He also posted pics of the goods.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: battletux on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:45:32

Received your pm and replied

Sorry I missed your original pm, but j have put several posts in this thread chasing people up and asking anyone to contact me who has any pcb shipping left they want

Once I receive your details mentioned in the pm I'll get your pcbs out

Received thanks, Wife picked them up from the post office today for me, Thanks Bunny.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jabar on Thu, 28 January 2016, 21:46:00
What's the status of gathering new US addresses?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 January 2016, 21:48:04
What's the status of gathering new US addresses?

Is radio silence considered a status?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 01 February 2016, 14:48:47
Cursed!!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 01 February 2016, 17:07:04
I haven't heard from samwisekoi yet. I feel it's my fault this time, I didn't have much time lately. I'll drop him an email later.

just to be clear for the new comers, neither samwisekoi, bunnylake or I are responsible for this situation, we are just trying to rescue a group buy that was thought long dead.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: regack on Tue, 02 February 2016, 09:54:44
I haven't heard from samwisekoi yet. I feel it's my fault this time, I didn't have much time lately. I'll drop him an email later.

just to be clear for the new comers, neither samwisekoi, bunnylake or I are responsible for this situation, we are just trying to rescue a group buy that was thought long dead.

I gave up on this long ago to the point that I don't even remember what I ordered.  I don't even think I want/need any of it anymore, but in spite of my feelings about that, I must say I really do appreciate that you all are putting in time and effort to try to rescue/resuscitate/revive this buy.  I'd also just like to say thank you to the others who have pitched in along the way to try to keep things going.  I know it's not over yet, and perhaps I should wait, but I feel that unless you occasionally hear that your efforts are appreciated, it's hard to keep pushing forward.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:32:58
Okay, we have the PCBs and plates sorted out and ready to go.

Now we need your help. If you are available at proxying some orders around US please contact me. I need to know how many orders you can handle and your address.

To all: we do not have funds to cover shipping costs (at least not 100% of it). So you'll have to pay that again. I'm sorry, there's nothing I can do about it.

As a proxy you'll need to:

- collect handling/shipping
- sort the orders
- prepare package
- ship

Many thanks to all who want to support but this GB went pretty wrong already so I will only consider help from people I know or are "esteemed members of the community(tm)".


PS: mashby is the first proxy, he said he could handle all orders, but I would prefer to share the burden over more people.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 03 February 2016, 10:52:47
What about switches and stabilizers?

And mashby is awesome.

And is the idea to ship everything USPS flat rate?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 03 February 2016, 16:05:37
What about switches and stabilizers?

And mashby is awesome.

And is the idea to ship everything USPS flat rate?

I won't know that until I get some sense of what I'm shipping. My goal is to make it as inexpensive as possible, but if we go first class then we have to factor in the cost of shipping supplies and it may not be worth it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 03 February 2016, 17:21:33
I can help ship a few orders.  I have shipped 80 orders as proxy for a group buy, but given the potential increased complexity here I would prefer to ship ~20-40 orders.  Unless that is few enough that it's not very helpful? 
If I do end up helping, I would also prefer to ship everything flat rate to make it easier for me.  It will add a few dollars to the shipping cost, but save some time/headache on the shipping side of things.

mashby is, of course, a great choice.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 03 February 2016, 18:27:24
mashby is a great choice and so is hoff, though i worry about anyone involved, this group buy is cursed, they may not come out alive.......

please guys handle the address verification and changes correctly, my address has changed and so many others changed addresses since the beginning, and i don't want an open form where everyone can change another person's address. i want my stuff to go to the right place!!!!

id gladly pay shipping costs to unstuck my stuff.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Wed, 03 February 2016, 18:37:16
I've volunteered, but we'll see if my volunteering will be accepted.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 04 February 2016, 00:41:08
At this point I'm more than happy to pay shipping again and obviously ignore the assembly. Is there someone specific handling international orders? (South Africa)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 04 February 2016, 01:20:29
We have approximately 150 US (and Canada) orders.

I'd say we need at least 2 proxies, 75 each. Better 3, 50 orders each.

So far I have one... unless Hoff is up to the task.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 04 February 2016, 06:27:48
Again I'll ask what about switches and stabilizers? Is this round of shipping only for plates and PCBs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 04 February 2016, 13:16:41
put some indicator leds on my GH60 ;) (btw, mx lock on FN key)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 04 February 2016, 13:58:33
technically we also have stabs and switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 04 February 2016, 14:00:02
technically we also have stabs and switches.

Well there's a huge difference between proxying a pcb and a plate versus having to count out stabilizers and sort switches etc, hence why I asked. :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Thu, 04 February 2016, 15:44:23
put some indicator leds on my GH60 ;) (btw, mx lock on FN key)

Nice, how'd you do it?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 04 February 2016, 16:15:38
technically we also have stabs and switches.

What does that mean?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 04 February 2016, 16:22:32
Nice, how'd you do it?

thanks @Hzza ;)

I had to use a TMK Keymap Generator firmware, just used the following options:

(http://s16.postimg.org/fu1z2kiz9/wqa.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 04 February 2016, 16:55:54
technically we also have stabs and switches.

What does that mean?

that means that due to the original "creative" ordering system, it is very complicated to sort stabs and switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:02:37
Alright. I guess I don't know what kind of information you guys have then. I can clearly see what people have in their order from the GH60 checklist that TJ was using, so it's confusing when you say it's complicated to sort the stabs and switches.
Looking forward to seeing what the solution is going to be.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:29:27
We have approximately 150 US (and Canada) orders.

I'd say we need at least 2 proxies, 75 each. Better 3, 50 orders each.

So far I have one... unless Hoff is up to the task.

I can definitely help ship 50.  If there are no other offers, I will do 75, with the disclaimer that it will be a lot of work and will not be completed within two weeks.  :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 04 February 2016, 23:18:20
At this point I'm more than happy to pay shipping again and obviously ignore the assembly. Is there someone specific handling international orders? (South Africa)

Sorry if this question was passed over due to the answer being obvious, but... *bump*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 04 February 2016, 23:55:30
I could handle some of the shipping as long as my shipping costs are covered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Fri, 05 February 2016, 10:33:07
At this point I'm more than happy to pay shipping again and obviously ignore the assembly. Is there someone specific handling international orders? (South Africa)

Sorry if this question was passed over due to the answer being obvious, but... *bump*

I believe the original plan was bunny would handle all non-US orders, but I'm not entirely sure, and the last thing I want to do is volunteer someone else for more work.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Fri, 05 February 2016, 11:58:40
At this point I'm more than happy to pay shipping again and obviously ignore the assembly. Is there someone specific handling international orders? (South Africa)

Sorry if this question was passed over due to the answer being obvious, but... *bump*

I believe the original plan was bunny would handle all non-US orders, but I'm not entirely sure, and the last thing I want to do is volunteer someone else for more work.

Thanks for the reply! Much appreciated :) Will follow it up with him.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 05 February 2016, 13:00:35
can anyone vouch for kravlin?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: JBert on Fri, 05 February 2016, 16:57:36
To all: we do not have funds to cover shipping costs (at least not 100% of it). So you'll have to pay that again. I'm sorry, there's nothing I can do about it.
No problem, I wanted to upgrade to decent (insured?) shipping either way (can't risk getting my stuff trashed after this long a wait).

Just let me know when we have payment collectors to whom I need to pay.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: duq on Fri, 05 February 2016, 17:25:57
To all: we do not have funds to cover shipping costs (at least not 100% of it). So you'll have to pay that again. I'm sorry, there's nothing I can do about it.
No problem, I wanted to upgrade to decent (insured?) shipping either way (can't risk getting my stuff trashed after this long a wait).

Just let me know when we have payment collectors to whom I need to pay.

+1 to this sentiment. Big thanks to all those whom exerted energy into bringing this back to life!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 06 February 2016, 02:28:04
still missing a proxy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mkaito on Sat, 06 February 2016, 19:56:14
Please let me know if I have to pay for shipping. I'm not sure whether that was just for US folks, or if that includes us in Europe. Last thing I heard, Bunny had my stuff except for the plates and we were waiting on that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 06 February 2016, 21:15:30
put some indicator leds on my GH60 ;) (btw, mx lock on FN key)


I have a mx lock on my menu key and I bind the alternate fast walk/run button in dayz to this to give me a autorun button
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: xondat on Sun, 07 February 2016, 02:54:58
put some indicator leds on my GH60 ;) (btw, mx lock on FN key)


MX Lock looks really interesting, I think I'll try and get a couple for when I make a keyboard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Mon, 08 February 2016, 08:18:15
Hello everybody...

I am very happy and thankfull to HoffmanMyster that got all the parts from the Prof. Now my question is, who would be able to assebmle my parts? My parts are all with HoffmanMyster and hope there is someone who could proifessional assmble and soldier my board :)

Thanks you
FabsSpeed
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 08 February 2016, 08:23:07
okay I have 3 proxies.

now let me put things together and see if we can have this gargantua moving.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Mon, 08 February 2016, 08:29:14
Hello everybody...

I am very happy and thankfull to HoffmanMyster that got all the parts from the Prof. Now my question is, who would be able to assebmle my parts? My parts are all with HoffmanMyster and hope there is someone who could proifessional assmble and soldier my board :)

Thanks you
FabsSpeed

You're referring to a different group buy. You're looking for the Phantom GB which can be found here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38471.msg2042437#msg2042437).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Mon, 08 February 2016, 08:46:43
Hello everybody...

I am very happy and thankfull to HoffmanMyster that got all the parts from the Prof. Now my question is, who would be able to assebmle my parts? My parts are all with HoffmanMyster and hope there is someone who could proifessional assmble and soldier my board :)

Thanks you
FabsSpeed

sorry :) Thank you

You're referring to a different group buy. You're looking for the Phantom GB which can be found here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38471.msg2042437#msg2042437).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Turbinia on Mon, 08 February 2016, 13:46:45
I would be willing to put something towards shipping. I wouldn't mind proxying, but I don't have anyone on the forum that could vouch for me. I paid for assembly and don't require that, so if those funds exist you can use them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: precarious on Mon, 08 February 2016, 18:20:28
If memory serves me, I think I just ordered the PCB.  Just throwing a message into this thread so I can hopefully get ahold of it soon, then figure out what to do with it, haha. Maybe if someone is able to provide switches/assembly I could pay for some of their shipping/etc as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 08 February 2016, 19:17:56
If memory serves me, I think I just ordered the PCB.  Just throwing a message into this thread so I can hopefully get ahold of it soon, then figure out what to do with it, haha. Maybe if someone is able to provide switches/assembly I could pay for some of their shipping/etc as well.

you saying you need assembly? if that's what you are saying, I'm local bro, hit me up, that is of course when these materialize, could be a while aways
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: gimpster on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:59:50
I presume a consolidated address update process will be rolled out soon-ish?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 10 February 2016, 00:47:41
I presume a consolidated address update process will be rolled out soon-ish?

I'll publish the list of users with their respective proxy, so you'll know who to contact if you need to update anything.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 10 February 2016, 10:18:06
Proxy Update

Since we're going to have to charge shipping for each order, we will need to confirm your order, shipping address, etc., before anything is shipped to you.

We're sorting through our respective lists and setting up a conference call/chat to coordinate our efforts and setup a game plan on how we'd like to proceed. We should have that done this week.  Our goal is to get this processed and shipped as fast as possible. We're as eager as everyone else to get this resolved.

Once we have a game plan in place, we'll post it here so that everyone knows what the next steps are and where we are in the process.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 10 February 2016, 14:02:03
I know this has the potential to open a whole different can of worms, but since we're going to have to be paying for shipping, will we be able to transfer our order at this time?  I'm at a point where seeing the board will just piss me off, so I'm planning on selling mine.  I really don't want to have mine shipped to me and then have someone pay the original price (which included shipping), new shipping price, and then shipping on top of that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 10 February 2016, 14:50:41
I know this has the potential to open a whole different can of worms, but since we're going to have to be paying for shipping, will we be able to transfer our order at this time?  I'm at a point where seeing the board will just piss me off, so I'm planning on selling mine.  I really don't want to have mine shipped to me and then have someone pay the original price (which included shipping), new shipping price, and then shipping on top of that.

The proxies can discuss this when we chat - it would probably be best to be consistent between the three of us.

Speaking only for myself I don't have an issue transferring an order, but I imagine that quite a few people might ask for the same thing.  If there's suddenly an influx of GH60s for sale on the market, it could take quite some time for many of them to sell.  I am not interested in holding on to these for weeks/months waiting for people to sell their board.  But maybe if we implemented a "you have until we reach your order to sell it" type rule?  Not sure the best way to go about it.  But we'll discuss it, I'm sure.

Even if all orders are transferred immediately, it still opens us up to a huge potential for mistakes and a lot of time sorting/rectifying that.  It's far from ideal, IMO.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: agor on Thu, 11 February 2016, 02:03:48
What about the european plates, are they already on the way to BunnyLake?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 11 February 2016, 02:11:26
When last I spoke with Bunny he said he didn't have any plates, stabs or the bulk of the switches. Anyone know if those are expected to be sent to him to fulfil the European and international orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: MOZ on Thu, 11 February 2016, 06:10:04
I know this has the potential to open a whole different can of worms, but since we're going to have to be paying for shipping, will we be able to transfer our order at this time?  I'm at a point where seeing the board will just piss me off, so I'm planning on selling mine.  I really don't want to have mine shipped to me and then have someone pay the original price (which included shipping), new shipping price, and then shipping on top of that.

The proxies can discuss this when we chat - it would probably be best to be consistent between the three of us.

Speaking only for myself I don't have an issue transferring an order, but I imagine that quite a few people might ask for the same thing.  If there's suddenly an influx of GH60s for sale on the market, it could take quite some time for many of them to sell.  I am not interested in holding on to these for weeks/months waiting for people to sell their board.  But maybe if we implemented a "you have until we reach your order to sell it" type rule?  Not sure the best way to go about it.  But we'll discuss it, I'm sure.

Even if all orders are transferred immediately, it still opens us up to a huge potential for mistakes and a lot of time sorting/rectifying that.  It's far from ideal, IMO.

It's likely that a lot of addresses would have changed, and why you are confirming addresses. In that process the original buyer can probably give you the address of the buyer they are selling too. The seller will organise to have the money sent to them for the new shipping and whatever price they sell their order for and transfer the shipping funds to the proxies. The proxies can set a time until which address changes can be sent till. Any address changes received after that will be processed after the orders that have been confirmed before the due date.

This should release some work from the proxies.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 11 February 2016, 12:51:34
So is this actually happening now?

Besides that, the community effort into this revival has been amazing, one day I'll find enough time to read through all 114 pages of this darn thread.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Ludovician on Thu, 11 February 2016, 16:13:36
In case anyone wants to sell their place in this GB, I'd take one. I'm really just after an assembled PCB, but if your order includes a plate and stabilisers I'd still take it. No switches though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: boost on Thu, 11 February 2016, 19:37:43
ohhhh, I was late to the proxy party :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 12 February 2016, 01:59:42
ohhhh, I was late to the proxy party :(

wanna help?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: boost on Fri, 12 February 2016, 18:48:59
ohhhh, I was late to the proxy party :(

wanna help?



I'm always done to help :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 12 February 2016, 18:53:01
ohhhh, I was late to the proxy party :(

wanna help?



I'm always done to help :)
Bost gets done
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: boost on Fri, 12 February 2016, 19:07:35
ohhhh, I was late to the proxy party :(

wanna help?



I'm always done to help :)
Bost gets done

Bost!...I still remember this joke...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: feng on Mon, 15 February 2016, 06:12:57
Who's in charge of shipping now? I'll most likely need to change my shipping address before these ship out since I'll be moving back to China in April.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 15 February 2016, 06:29:14
PLEASE do not contact your proxy YET! They will let you know when they are ready.

If you are not in the list you better contact me ASAP instead.

EU and International orders are all through BunnyLake

================================

PROXY: Mashby

WhiteFireDragon
Loligagger
viasacra89
affect656
Muffet
badcop
mashby
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Mon, 15 February 2016, 07:09:48
PROXY: Mashby
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vorn

Hey Matt. I'm an international order, so you can remove me from this grouping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 15 February 2016, 07:17:07
Having dealt with spamray, I can vouch for him and say he is a great guy and an excellent proxy!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Mon, 15 February 2016, 07:20:56
PROXY: Mashby
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vorn

Hey Matt. I'm an international order, so you can remove me from this grouping.

Unless this is for the plate, stabilisers and switches (which I'm told Bunny isn't in possession of) ???
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 15 February 2016, 07:36:08
thanks for the heads up vorn, for some reason you ended up in the US orders.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Mon, 15 February 2016, 07:42:27
No problem. Are you aware of any plan for the plates, switches and stabilisers for EU and international orders? When last I spoke to Bunny he said he wasn't in possession of them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 15 February 2016, 07:53:03
we need to ship them to bunny but we are desperately out of cash...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Mon, 15 February 2016, 08:02:44
Okay cool. Well I'll watch this space for any collection of funds towards the fulfilment of our orders.

Possibly to contact all on the EU / International list, and those willing to pay to get the remainder of their parts can split the shipping cost.

In for a penny, in for a pound.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mauri on Mon, 15 February 2016, 08:57:02
The shipping will be pretty expensive though I reckon. I'll gladly pay 10-20$ but more than that and I'll just write it off as a loss. Might make more sense to ship everyones plate/switch/stab order separately after paying for the shipping. I really don't know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Mon, 15 February 2016, 10:04:52
The shipping will be pretty expensive though I reckon. I'll gladly pay 10-20$ but more than that and I'll just write it off as a loss. Might make more sense to ship everyones plate/switch/stab order separately after paying for the shipping. I really don't know.

We're nailing down our shipping options now, but initial estimates range from $9 to $14 for priority mail. This is preliminary though and nothing is finalized.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: kravlin on Mon, 15 February 2016, 10:16:35
I'm willing to toss in extra to try to get the plates and stabs to bunny, and PCBs to the US. No fair anyone gets stuck with only half what they paid for.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 15 February 2016, 10:56:10
let's be terribly honest here.

shipping 200-ish plates from US to UK would be incredibly expensive. I guess in the thousands-$$ so we need to make some serious magic here. We are trying to recover the little funds left, I'll know how bad the situation is in few days. The alternative would be to find a US proxy willing to ship internationally.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 15 February 2016, 11:36:14
yay
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Mon, 15 February 2016, 11:56:20
let's be terribly honest here.

shipping 200-ish plates from US to UK would be incredibly expensive. I guess in the thousands-$$ so we need to make some serious magic here. We are trying to recover the little funds left, I'll know how bad the situation is in few days. The alternative would be to find a US proxy willing to ship internationally.

I'm down for International once we get the US orders moving.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 15 February 2016, 13:46:17
Can we work out how much it will cost for the EU remaining plates, and split the cost?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: regack on Mon, 15 February 2016, 13:55:08
let's be terribly honest here.

shipping 200-ish plates from US to UK would be incredibly expensive. I guess in the thousands-$$ so we need to make some serious magic here. We are trying to recover the little funds left, I'll know how bad the situation is in few days. The alternative would be to find a US proxy willing to ship internationally.

I'm down for International once we get the US orders moving.

As Mashby is my proxy, when we work out the shipping, I can kick in some extra to help cover some of the int'l shipping costs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 15 February 2016, 13:56:30
How did we end up with so little money left?  Based on prices that we've been told (especially the plates), I know most of the stuff was under the charged price and shipping was paid as part of the original price.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Mon, 15 February 2016, 15:30:48
I'm an international order, but I'm on SpamRay's list.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: oluf on Mon, 15 February 2016, 18:56:28

PROXY: SpamRay

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olaph
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Thank you proxies!!!

I want to note that my username changed to oluf.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 15 February 2016, 19:04:09
I'm an international order, but I'm on SpamRay's list.

From what I understand that was in error.


I want to note that my username changed to oluf.
Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 16 February 2016, 23:17:10
I'm an international order, but I'm on SpamRay's list.

From what I understand that was in error.


I want to note that my username changed to oluf.
Thanks for the heads up.

I'm intl too, technically, and on ray's list.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 17 February 2016, 00:09:58
The heroes of geekhack stepping in is extremely inspiring. Hopefully the curse is broken
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: demik on Wed, 17 February 2016, 00:14:06
mashby, moose is currently permabanned. do you have any way to get in contact with him? if not, i can be of service.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 17 February 2016, 04:00:48
How did we end up with so little money left?  Based on prices that we've been told (especially the plates), I know most of the stuff was under the charged price and shipping was paid as part of the original price.

That question wasn't answered a year ago, and I'm pretty sure it won't be answered this time either. We can only speculate that the cost of transferring the money back and forth from accounts has cost a lot. Moving the merchandise must have ended up eating up a big chunk of the shipping too. Or maybe the "extra" money was used years ago by the organizer before he left. Maybe someone used some of the money for audio equipment. Maybe it's Maybelline.

Does it make a difference what happened after all this time? *shrug*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 17 February 2016, 05:31:47
I do not know where the money went. I only know what we are left with, which as of now is about $1500. More funds are said to be available somewhere but we haven't seen them yet.

Consider that we had to move the pcb and plates to Samwisekoi and to Bunnylake, and now we have to ship them to proxies.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 17 February 2016, 06:51:50
I'm an international order, but I'm on SpamRay's list.

From what I understand that was in error.


I want to note that my username changed to oluf.
Thanks for the heads up.

I'm intl too, technically, and on ray's list.
We are handling CONUS and Canada :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mkaito on Wed, 17 February 2016, 08:55:50
Was the rest of the stuff shipped to Bunny? How much do we EU folks need to put towards shipping?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 17 February 2016, 22:51:24
Good to see this moving along. PM me if you need anything SpAmRaY.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 17 February 2016, 22:53:13
Made a post in classifieds, but getting rid of my order.  I believe swill's link still works for those who want to get rid of theirs as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 18 February 2016, 03:26:54
for all the EU guys with outstanding orders

ive just picked up a new soldering rig

and will make my time available for people with orders who still need this service

once i have the plates stabs and remaining switches from sam, ill get all eu orders that dont need soldering out right away


and can then discuss the needs of people who do need soldering work with people
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: axtran on Thu, 18 February 2016, 08:35:41
Hope this isn't too early, but... if anyone is no longer interested in theirs, PM me. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:04:39
for all the EU guys with outstanding orders

ive just picked up a new soldering rig

and will make my time available for people with orders who still need this service

once i have the plates stabs and remaining switches from sam, ill get all eu orders that dont need soldering out right away


and can then discuss the needs of people who do need soldering work with people

Sup Bunny. I'm an international order, and I was / am keen on assembly, if that's still on the cards.

Eagerly watching this thread - excited to see some plans are being made to fulfil all the orders!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Hzza on Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:25:22
Let me know if you want some help assembling bunny, I can pick up a few if needed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: swill on Fri, 19 February 2016, 21:17:48
Made a post in classifieds, but getting rid of my order.  I believe swill's link still works for those who want to get rid of theirs as well.
Yes. It is still available and will be until things settle down after NA ships (so, indefinitely...).

http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/ (http://gh60-market.swillkb.com/)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: i3oilermaker on Mon, 22 February 2016, 09:44:34
Techkeys will he selling the GH60 in the very near future.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: axtran on Mon, 22 February 2016, 09:45:18

Techkeys will he selling the GH60 in the very near future.

This is super exciting news! Will you be selling only PCBs, or also plates?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: i3oilermaker on Mon, 22 February 2016, 09:46:07
PCBs to start out - possibly plates down the road.


Techkeys will he selling the GH60 in the very near future.

This is super exciting news! Will you be selling only PCBs, or also plates?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 22 February 2016, 10:55:21
Techkeys will he selling the GH60 in the very near future.
What color?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 22 February 2016, 11:17:50
In the meantime, I'm still selling mine complete with PCB, Plate, and stabilizers and I should also have some Gateron switches I can toss in for the cost of shipping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: axtran on Mon, 22 February 2016, 11:41:19
In the meantime, I'm still selling mine complete with PCB, Plate, and stabilizers and I should also have some Gateron switches I can toss in for the cost of shipping.

I'll take this to PM :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: i3oilermaker on Mon, 22 February 2016, 11:47:27
Techkeys will he selling the GH60 in the very near future.
What color?

Not Black - subscribe to Techkeys newsletter to be notified as soon as it is available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 22 February 2016, 11:49:01
Techkeys will he selling the GH60 in the very near future.
What color?

Not Black - subscribe to Techkeys newsletter to be notified as soon as it is available.

:( was hoping for black :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: fydo on Mon, 22 February 2016, 12:57:50

PROXY: SpamRay

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fydo
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Excellent news!
Thanks so much to everyone involved in reviving this GB. Will SpamRay be shipping out everything that I ordered? ie. PCB, Stabs, Plates, etc?

So looking forward to finally getting ahold of this. :D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 22 February 2016, 13:03:09

PROXY: SpamRay

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fydo
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Excellent news!
Thanks so much to everyone involved in reviving this GB. Will SpamRay be shipping out everything that I ordered? ie. PCB, Stabs, Plates, etc?

So looking forward to finally getting ahold of this. :D

That is the plan. :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 22 February 2016, 13:13:37

PROXY: SpamRay

...
fydo
...

Excellent news!
Thanks so much to everyone involved in reviving this GB. Will SpamRay be shipping out everything that I ordered? ie. PCB, Stabs, Plates, etc?

So looking forward to finally getting ahold of this. :D

That is the plan. :thumb:

all hail the spamray
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 22 February 2016, 13:15:55

PROXY: SpamRay

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fydo
...

Excellent news!
Thanks so much to everyone involved in reviving this GB. Will SpamRay be shipping out everything that I ordered? ie. PCB, Stabs, Plates, etc?

So looking forward to finally getting ahold of this. :D

That is the plan. :thumb:

all hail the spamray
Mashby and hoffmanmyster have their list as well :D

And just a general FYI the wheels are tentatively in motion.

We hope to get things moving as soon as possible.

Mashby is good with the words though so expect an actual update to come from him when the time is right.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 22 February 2016, 13:16:40

PROXY: SpamRay

...
fydo
...

Excellent news!
Thanks so much to everyone involved in reviving this GB. Will SpamRay be shipping out everything that I ordered? ie. PCB, Stabs, Plates, etc?

So looking forward to finally getting ahold of this. :D

That is the plan. :thumb:

all hail the spamray
Mashby and hoffmanmyster have their list as well :D

And just a general FYI the wheels are tentatively in motion.

We hope to get things moving as soon as possible.

fingers crossed i get my bits soon also, will be great to get this all outta my house haha
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 22 February 2016, 16:59:49
admittedly the proxies are a bit slow to reply :P

(not you SpamRay, you are da man)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 22 February 2016, 18:27:12
admittedly the proxies are a bit slow to reply :P

(not you SpamRay, you are da man)

Been too busy picking up pieces of another group buy.  :P

I'm going to hammer out some of the parts of this one tonight though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 25 February 2016, 15:47:20
still no update on parts to the eu guys

just keeping you informed, will let you know when that changes
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 25 February 2016, 15:49:07
It would still be nice to get an accounting of where all the money went since we're going to be paying for shipping a second time.

I have no problem with doing so as long as the money went to logistics and not someone's pocket.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 25 February 2016, 17:00:04
I'm sorry I just got back online recently.  If you need more US proxies I would be happy to help; I'm in Florida if that matters.  I can probably persuade some of the Florida peeps to help and make it a ProxyPartay (did I just invent a word?).

I'm not in this buy but really want to see it completed.  If there's some other way I can help besides proxying, then that's fine too.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 26 February 2016, 16:38:35
So who the heck do I contact about an address change?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 February 2016, 16:39:08
So who the heck do I contact about an address change?

You just wait for your shipping proxy (HoffmanMyster, in your case) to contact you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 26 February 2016, 16:41:34
It would still be nice to get an accounting of where all the money went since we're going to be paying for shipping a second time.

I have no problem with doing so as long as the money went to logistics and not someone's pocket.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 26 February 2016, 16:44:11
It would still be nice to get an accounting of where all the money went since we're going to be paying for shipping a second time.

I have no problem with doing so as long as the money went to logistics and not someone's pocket.

Just keep holding your breath, bro. I'm sure it's coming.

[/sarcasm]
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 26 February 2016, 17:26:05
It would still be nice to get an accounting of where all the money went since we're going to be paying for shipping a second time.

I have no problem with doing so as long as the money went to logistics and not someone's pocket.

good luck
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 26 February 2016, 17:44:02
Well, one can dream.  Even if we're told that TJ spent the money and we're SOL, it would be nice to see why we have to pay for shipping a second time and it would be nice to see why we're in the position we're in with funds.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 27 February 2016, 04:01:31
Well, i think at this point we should just look forward to getting this wrapped up, we need the organisers to give us shipping costs so we can pay and get this rolling.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 27 February 2016, 04:39:13
Well, one can dream.  Even if we're told that TJ spent the money and we're SOL, it would be nice to see why we have to pay for shipping a second time and it would be nice to see why we're in the position we're in with funds.

I wish I knew. I'm just dealing with what is left. If anyone has more insight, he/she should talk.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 27 February 2016, 07:55:01

Well, one can dream.  Even if we're told that TJ spent the money and we're SOL, it would be nice to see why we have to pay for shipping a second time and it would be nice to see why we're in the position we're in with funds.

Who do you think has this information?  Seems like the people who would know are no longer involved...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 27 February 2016, 08:22:57

Well, one can dream.  Even if we're told that TJ spent the money and we're SOL, it would be nice to see why we have to pay for shipping a second time and it would be nice to see why we're in the position we're in with funds.

Who do you think has this information?  Seems like the people who would know are no longer involved...

It's like highlander, there can be only one...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 27 February 2016, 08:45:54
If it helps you can blame me, nubbinator :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: JayKthnx on Sat, 27 February 2016, 13:53:45
Hey SpAmRaY, can I pm you about one of the orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 27 February 2016, 13:57:25
Hey SpAmRaY, can I pm you about one of the orders?

We (myself, mashby and hoffmanmyster) will be pm'ing everyone on our lists soon to get things going so I don't want to make a blanket statement that is going to set off a bunch of pm's. :D But I'll pm you :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 27 February 2016, 14:00:14
Well, one can dream.  Even if we're told that TJ spent the money and we're SOL, it would be nice to see why we have to pay for shipping a second time and it would be nice to see why we're in the position we're in with funds.

I wish I knew. I'm just dealing with what is left. If anyone has more insight, he/she should talk.

Thanks.  That's the clearest answer I've been given.  I'm just annoyed that it appears that a huge chunk of money went missing and no one is being held accountable for it.  I know you guys are just trying to pick up the pieces and I appreciate that.


If it helps you can blame me, nubbinator :)

I'm not looking for someone to blame, I'm just looking for an answer as to why we're in the place we're in.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 27 February 2016, 14:02:52
Ok.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 28 February 2016, 05:23:16
Ron has received the sorted list of components to send to each proxy. He will probably need some time to sort everything out but we are getting there!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sun, 28 February 2016, 19:53:37
Im not giving any more money until it is proven the boards actually exist. A picture of a bunch of boxes is not enough in my opinion. If any more of my money is going towards this it better be proven that i will actually get it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 29 February 2016, 04:44:10
Im not giving any more money until it is proven the boards actually exist. A picture of a bunch of boxes is not enough in my opinion. If any more of my money is going towards this it better be proven that i will actually get it.

why would the boards existing be in question


Mod edit >> In response to a snarky comment that has since been deleted:
its being sorted now, people have donated their time, new members have all the goods on hand, and perhaps a little respect for their time and effort in dealing with this thankless task is due, instead of treating them like they are the people who caused the issues in the first place
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 February 2016, 06:23:30
@turkishrambo I'll be glad to send you photos of your items before you pay shipping.


And in case anyone else missed Matteo's last update, samwisekoi is currently breaking everything out to get things on the way to us proxies.

There will be an official update from the USA/CA proxies soon from @mashby

For the rest of the world bunnylake mentioned a few posts back he's waiting on plates and other bits to get all the rest out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 29 February 2016, 06:37:26
Sorry for starting crap. Admittedly things are pretty tense for this GB. I did't want people to argue, nor do i think the people picking up the GB are not doing their absolute best. Ive already written the boards as a lost, i just sure as heck don't want to give up more money for false promises.

I just can't recall ever actually seeing the boards (just a pile of boxes). In my mind they don't exist. Maybe its because they should have been here by now if they did exist. (tin foil hat)

This is just my thoughts and I hope it doesn't discourage you guys from helping out. I just want it to be done so i can forget about all this. I feel like the wrong people are getting all the crap now, and its really just another product of how poorly everything has gone down.

I feel really bad. Matt3o, I'm sorry my comment may have been in poor taste. Try not to give up. Please set up a tip jar for parties involved in getting this moving, i would be happy to make things easier for you guys. Thank you aswell, SpamRay.
Title: Proxy Shipping Status Update
Post by: mashby on Tue, 01 March 2016, 15:51:12
Hey guys! Before we dig into the details of this update, I first want to thank everyone for being patient while we worked on putting together a plan of action and nail down the details of how we're going to drag this group buy across the finish line. Rest assured that those volunteering and in the same boat as you. We're all waiting for our own orders as well and we want to wrap this up as fast as possible.

TL;DR
Three proxies are handling the shipment of the US and Canadian orders and you're going to have to pay for shipping again. Shipping will be a flat-rate of $15 and sent via USPS Priority Mail for US customers. Canadian order will be shipped via First-Class.



GH60 Group Buy Status
In case you haven't been keeping up with this thread, this group buy was started three years ago and it unfortunately fell apart. Details can be found within this thread, but the important point is that many volunteers have been working behind the scenes to repair this buy as much as possible and fulfill everyone's order. It's far from perfect, but we're doing our best with what we have left.

Proxy Shipping
Three volunteers are handling the shipment of the US and Candian orders. They are: mashby, HoffmanMyster and SpAmRaY. Our jobs are to handle the shipping of your order, as complete as we can make it, and to collect the funds for postage.

I Have To Pay For Shipping Again?
Yes. We would prefer that this wasn't the case, but given the status of this group buy we have no other option.

How Much Is Shipping?
$15 for US orders, which includes shipping, PayPal fees and handling charge. Canadian Customers will be sent First-Class for the exact postage + $2 handling fee.  In order to expedite your order we are shipping all US orders via USPS and using a Medium Flat-Rate box. In addition, we are including a $2 handling fee.

Why A Handling Fee?
We're trying to run this as lean as possible, but the handling fee is to offset the PayPal fees as well as incidental costs for packaging and shipping. Thankfully the boxes are free, but there are other costs to get your order to you and we don't want the proxies to lose money handling everyone's orders.

All of us will be keeping detailed records to account for all monies collected for shipping and although we don't expect their to be any, all profits will be donated to GeekHack for the operation of the forum.  For more details regarding on why GeekHack is accepting donations can be found here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73331.0).

When Do I Have To Pay For Shipping?
After the proxy has your order ready to ship. We first need to receive the goods from Samwisekoi and sort them into individual orders. This will ensure that your order is as complete as possible and that we have the goods in hand first. Once that is complete, we'll invoice you via PayPal for the shipping costs.

What About Assembly?
Assembly was being coordinated by the original leader of the group buy -- WhiteFireDragon (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15168). His abandonment of the group buy is what put us in the position that we're in now.  All of the volunteers involved in this salvage process have attempted to recover what we could, but assembly is no longer available.

Your Options
1. You can choose to solder the keyboard yourself (link (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0))
2. Hire a professional (link (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45886.0))
3. Ask someone to volunteer here in the thread.

What's The Plan?
Below is an outline of how we plan to process everyone's order. The good news is that some of these items are already completed, so we're already making progress.

1. Receive the most current spreadsheet available from Matt3o

2. Sort through the spreadsheet and send back totals for each order

3. Order Shipping Materials

4. Send Confirmation E-mail To Order Holders

5. Receive Goods From Samwisekoi & Confirm Numbers

6. Send Invoices via PayPal

7. Receive Payment & Ship

8. Wrap Up Exceptions / Problems


Next Steps
As you can see from the outline above, our next step is to send out confirmation e-mails. The purpose of this e-mail is to verify your current address and provide you with what we have as your order. We'll update the thread when these go out.

Once the confirmation phase is complete, we'll be waiting for the order to arrive from Samwisekoi. We'll keep everyone posted along the way and if you have any questions, please post them in the thread so that we can all keep track.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: Glissant on Tue, 01 March 2016, 16:04:45
Are all the parts accounted for now? Plates, switches and stabs?


I ask because I believe someone said there was an issue with some or all of those parts.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 01 March 2016, 16:11:57
Thanks for the awesome update.  I know I've been one of the more vocally pissed off ones in this thread, but in spite of all my complaining, I have nothing but thanks for those of you who picked up this mess from TJ and WFD.  If there are any profits, I wouldn't feel bad about any of you keeping them since you guys actually deserve thanks.  I'm pissed off and annoyed that the original two appear to have run off with a chunk of the money, but that's not on you.

I'd actually love to have an add a tip option or something for the proxy in the confirmation stage.  I'd love to send my proxy some beer money.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: billnye on Tue, 01 March 2016, 16:18:55
Thank you to everyone who has donated their time to get this project moving again!

I took over an order from someone a little over two years ago, and the order appears to still be under their username, but it should have my address now. Should I pm someone to confirm this?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 01 March 2016, 17:44:57
Are all the parts accounted for now? Plates, switches and stabs?


I ask because I believe someone said there was an issue with some or all of those parts.

That is what Samwisekoi is sorting through now. The proxies compiled the total switches, plates, pcbs and stabs needed to complete our orders and he's confirming what we have and what we don't have.



Thanks for the awesome update.  I know I've been one of the more vocally pissed off ones in this thread, but in spite of all my complaining, I have nothing but thanks for those of you who picked up this mess from TJ and WFD.  If there are any profits, I wouldn't feel bad about any of you keeping them since you guys actually deserve thanks.  I'm pissed off and annoyed that the original two appear to have run off with a chunk of the money, but that's not on you.

I'd actually love to have an add a tip option or something for the proxy in the confirmation stage.  I'd love to send my proxy some beer money.

Thank you nubbinator for the offer, but I tell you what, I'll let you buy me a beer if we ever find ourselves at a meetup -- which I hope is soon.



Thank you to everyone who has donated their time to get this project moving again!

I took over an order from someone a little over two years ago, and the order appears to still be under their username, but it should have my address now. Should I pm someone to confirm this?

Billnye -- please PM me with the name of the user you took over. I think I've got you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 01 March 2016, 18:00:09
I updated the OP with mashby's post.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: battletux on Tue, 01 March 2016, 23:47:16
Good news guys! All you still waiting on getting your PCB's will be pleased to know that techkeys have rev c PCB's ready for immediate shipment!

What a kick in the balls that is.

How's they get the rev c schematics? I didn't think they were getting published until everyone had received their orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 02 March 2016, 00:02:08
Mega thanks to everyone involved in picking up the pieces here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 02 March 2016, 00:38:23
Good news guys! All you still waiting on getting your PCB's will be pleased to know that techkeys have rev c PCB's ready for immediate shipment!

What a kick in the balls that is.

How's they get the rev c schematics? I didn't think they were getting published until everyone had received their orders?

They originally said that they would give out the gerbers when the pcb's were in the hands of the group buy participants.
The PCB's are now in the hands of quite a few buyers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: battletux on Wed, 02 March 2016, 02:19:31
They originally said that they would give out the gerbers when the pcb's were in the hands of the group buy participants.
The PCB's are now in the hands of quite a few buyers.

Yes, in the hands of quite a few but not all. Thats the problem I have with this. The schematics should not have been released until EVERYONE had received their order.

To me this is worse than getting stiffed by WFD when he upped and left dropping the GB in the ****.

It just seems like one geek hacker profiteering off the back of the high demand for this board at the expense of those who funded it and spent the last few years not ever knowing if they would get to see their investment materialise. **** the little guy right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 02 March 2016, 04:00:23
techkeys should wait until all original pcbs are sold here, to start his "business"... not cool IMHO
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: MOZ on Wed, 02 March 2016, 04:15:03
I for one think it is perfectly fine for TechKeys to sell the GH60 PCB, in fact I would applaud their commitment to the community for not having them available on his store for such a long time. They are a business and they have waited long enough for this GB to complete, for whatever unfortunate reasons the GB has taken so long to complete, they waited patiently and now when an end is in sight, it's only fair for them to have them on their store, unlike the TaoBao sellers, that have been selling the GH60 PCBs for a time now.

Edit: And before someone asks, I don't have anything invested in this GB, maybe that is why I think so. I can understand participants might feel bad about this, but TechKeys doesn't deserve the criticism.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 02 March 2016, 04:26:25
completely different things, as TaoBao guys are selling GH60 "clones" which aren't the original design and even offer many features such as full backlight, SMD leds etc
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: flabbergast on Wed, 02 March 2016, 04:37:07
EDIT: ... deleted. Was a rant.
I'm with Prelim on this one. If the agreement was to not make the gerbers available before the GB ends, then they should not have been made available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: battletux on Wed, 02 March 2016, 04:47:42
I for one think it is perfectly fine for TechKeys to sell the GH60 PCB, in fact I would applaud their commitment to the community for not having them available on his store for such a long time. They are a business and they have waited long enough for this GB to complete, for whatever unfortunate reasons the GB has taken so long to complete, they waited patiently and now when an end is in sight, it's only fair for them to have them on their store, unlike the TaoBao sellers, that have been selling the GH60 PCBs for a time now.

Edit: And before someone asks, I don't have anything invested in this GB, maybe that is why I think so. I can understand participants might feel bad about this, but TechKeys doesn't deserve the criticism.

But how have TechKeys gotten the Schematics? They didn't design the board, Komar did, and as far as I'm aware I've not seen that the schematics have been released for the Rev C (but I could be wrong). What they are doing is ****ty when their are people still invested in this GB who have not yet received their orders. Yes they are a business, but this was a community project. THATS the difference.

For them to sell it before everyone has their orders stinks. I respect your right to your opinion but their move is still crappy.

With regards to the Taobao/Satan/China versions, they are all based on the Rev B or A that were not the final product. The reason why the rev C board schematics were not going to be released until everyone had their orders was because a lot of us felt pissed that the files for the rev a and b's were made public and clones started popping up out of china before anyone had their order or the final board design was done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: battletux on Wed, 02 March 2016, 04:53:21
No, **** you.
Exactly.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 02 March 2016, 04:53:30
We good  :thumb:

EDIT: Looks like the PCB is on TechKeys now too: http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/gh60
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Wed, 02 March 2016, 07:47:47
Guess i am in the market for plates and cases now... someone start a gb! stat!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 02 March 2016, 07:52:43
Holding back the Rev C schematics is pointless.
It has been almost 3 1/2 years since the original prototyping thread, and there are newer, more mature designs out there that accomplish all of the original design ideas of the gh60 and more.
The gh60 is also based on the atmel mega32u4 which newer better chips are also available now.
We do not know the whole story around techkeys selling gh60's.
It could have been part of the original buy to help us hit a better tier, and now he is trying to sell them before he is at a even bigger loss because of the newer pcb design's.

We do not know the full story and i3oilermaker, does not have to tell us.

Realize that i3oilermaker, a community member that has always supported this community by making investments into our projects is techkeys.us

Before you try to rally pitchforks over something, make sure you have the full story.
And in this occasion he would have all rights to tell you to mind your own business.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 02 March 2016, 07:58:20
lol, pointless post

you are basically saying that we should know the whole story before criticizing, the same story which nobody knows (you included) and even will never know. brilliant  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 02 March 2016, 08:07:35
lol, pointless post

you are basically saying that we should know the whole story before criticizing, the same story which nobody knows (you included) and even will never know. brilliant  :thumb:

This post is also pointless, because you seem to lack the ability to read a post and comprehend it.
TLDR from above: Mind your own business.

This discussion of the pcb's on techkeys.us is also a waste of time because both Prelim and Battletux have both already received there gh60 rev c pcb's.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78955.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 02 March 2016, 08:54:39
yes I have received my pcb, but still DO CARE about this groupbuy. I can't say the same thing of you...

For instance, I've talked to @komar 2 weeks ago and find outrageous that he still didn't received his pcb while someone is already selling those on shop :/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 02 March 2016, 09:10:38
No pitchforks here. I am just happy to be actually getting the damn thing (maybe). I really could not care less who is first since we are years behind schedule now. Good luck and godspeed to Techkeys. I also need to find a cheap case for this now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 02 March 2016, 09:13:22
[...] I also need to find a cheap case for this now.

maybe this then ;) www.aliexpress.com/item/GH60-compact-keyboard-base-seat-POKERII-60-mechanical-keyboard-poker2-plastic-frame-case-gaming-keyboard-FACEU/32448283161.html
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 02 March 2016, 09:35:53
I didn't join this group buy because I wanted to be the first to have this PCB -- good thing right?  :))

Personally, I have no issues with !3oilermaker selling the GH60 Rev C. There are plenty of people that missed the "opportunity" to get one of these PCBs and I'm glad that he invested in getting more boards made.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: i3oilermaker on Wed, 02 March 2016, 09:44:35
I will chime in here since there seems to be split opinions here.

For what its worth, I asked for permissions from GH Mods, GH60 GB Organizers, and GH60 Creators before proceeding.

There are plenty of people who missed out on the board since it was open for orders so long ago.

I understand some of your frustration over the GB, I have hundreds invested in the GH60 GB myself, but it will deliver in the very near future.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iAmAhab on Wed, 02 March 2016, 10:37:03
No, **** you.
Exactly.
Disclaimer: This statement was not meant as support for your ridiculous whining.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: battletux on Wed, 02 March 2016, 10:51:29

This discussion of the pcb's on techkeys.us is also a waste of time because both Prelim and Battletux have both already received there gh60 rev c pcb's.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78955.0

Yes I have now received part of my order, the gh60 PCBs but am still awaiting a plate (which will likely be another 3 years before delivery  :p ). I just find it an insult that there are people STILL waiting for this that invested in it and that those who missed out can now just go out and buy it before everyone has gotten their pcb orders.

It grates that this could be allowed, shame on the mods and everyone else who approved i3oilermaker to do this while the GB is nowhere near finished. What about first asking those still waiting for their PCBs if it was ok to allow a commercial party to start producing a rev C clone? To have the boards ready to ship means this was agreed and set into motion MONTHS ago.

I hate to say it but it just stinks. It comes across to me as a geek hack clique looking out for each others interests and not those of the participants of the GB.

No one should have been allowed to sell a rev C clone board until AFTER the GB was closed and all orders for PCBs fulfilled.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 02 March 2016, 10:59:39
Holy ****, how does it actually matter? That techkeys.us is selling PCBs has literally no effect on anyone in this group buy. The entitlement here is astonishing – it's been three years, and people are honestly angry that some are going to be able to get some outdated PCBs a few months earlier than them? We're lucky that this GB is being concluded at all, and wagging your finger at the people picking up the pieces is the truly shameful behavior here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: komar007 on Wed, 02 March 2016, 11:05:32
I think I need to add my 2 words too.

First thing:
yes I have received my pcb, but still DO CARE about this groupbuy. I can't say the same thing of you...

For instance, I've talked to @komar 2 weeks ago and find outrageous that he still didn't received his pcb while someone is already selling those on shop :/
I haven't received any PCBs from the GB because I didn't order any. So no need to be outraged.

And as for rev. C in techkeys.us, I see no reason to frown. The board was invented by jdcarpe and designed by me and both of us have agreed to stock the boards in Brad's store. The fact that someone invested their money and hasn't received their board (YET!) is sad but gives no right to decide what happens to the files and who gets permission to use them.


But how have TechKeys gotten the Schematics? They didn't design the board, Komar did, and as far as I'm aware I've not seen that the schematics have been released for the Rev C (but I could be wrong). What they are doing is ****ty when their are people still invested in this GB who have not yet received their orders. Yes they are a business, but this was a community project. THATS the difference.


For them to sell it before everyone has their orders stinks. I respect your right to your opinion but their move is still crappy.


With regards to the Taobao/Satan/China versions, they are all based on the Rev B or A that were not the final product. The reason why the rev C board schematics were not going to be released until everyone had their orders was because a lot of us felt pissed that the files for the rev a and b's were made public and clones started popping up out of china before anyone had their order or the final board design was done.

If you're wondering how the production files got to techkeys.us, it's simple - I gave them to techkeys.us and it is not the only store to offer GH60 rev. C now or in the near future.
We did agree once that we should wait with releasing the rev. C files, but the situation has changed significantly since then and I don't see a reason to bury a good project because of one failed GB.

As for not releasing rev. C publicly - the only reason it's not done yet is because I'm still working on it - it requires conversion of the whole project to kicad's new format and it takes a while to clean everything up.
According to our previous settlements with jdcarpe, the released version will have no official GH60 logo and the version with the logo, affiliated directly to geekhack, will be only given to businesses which have been granted our permission and the way this version can be altered by a store will be controlled by us.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 02 March 2016, 11:06:26
If you want to blame someone, blame WFD and TJ for letting it become a total disaster.  i3oilermaker has contributed a ton to various projects, purchasing blocks to help hit MOQ, helping with the Cherry legend project, and so on.  You can't expect him to just sit on this forever, especially with more advanced PCBs coming out.  He was probably expecting to have these in his shop at least a year and a half ago since the buy was supposed to be finished over two years ago now instead of sitting in some warehouse in China and someone's house.

Is it annoying that there's a route for US purchases that will probably get out before the people who took part in the GB get theirs?  Hell yes it is, but that is not his fault.  It's the fault of WFD and TJ.  And it's their fault that people have to pay shipping again.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: cyberwave on Wed, 02 March 2016, 11:51:08
what about non-US and non-Canada orders?

sorry if this has been mentioned before  :-[
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 02 March 2016, 11:56:31
what about non-US and non-Canada orders?

sorry if this has been mentioned before  :-[

bunnylake is still waiting on the rest of the parts to be shipped to him before he can continue fulfilling orders
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 02 March 2016, 12:09:05
It grates that this could be allowed, shame on the mods and everyone else who approved i3oilermaker to do this while the GB is nowhere near finished.

At the risk of coming across overly defensive (and assuming this might be referring to myself, among other mods), I'll just comment on this from my own involvement.  i3oilermaker reached out to me asking if he could stock the board and if there was any permission needed to use the GH60 logo.

My response, in full, was:
Quote
I don't think I'm the right person, since I had no hand in the creation/design of the boards.  Have you reached out to JD, Ron, or matt3o?  I don't actually even remember who owns the rights to the PCB design...but hopefully one of them would know who to ask.  Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.  :thumb:

Now, maybe I'm making assumptions and jumping the gun - it's very likely that i3oilermaker reached out to other mods as well (mods that were actually involved in the project at the time).  I can't say one way or the other. 

I don't say any of this to contradict i3oiler's message or taint his message in any way.  As I said, it's very likely that he did reach out to others.  But to say "shame on the mods" is rather presumptuous.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 02 March 2016, 12:18:13
I think I need to add my 2 words too.

First thing:
I haven't received any PCBs from the GB because I didn't order any. So no need to be outraged.

And as for rev. C in techkeys.us, I see no reason to frown. The board was invented by jdcarpe and designed by me and both of us have agreed to stock the boards in Brad's store. The fact that someone invested their money and hasn't received their board (YET!) is sad but gives no right to decide what happens to the files and who gets permission to use them.

I totally misunderstood you before then... I thought you were waiting for you pcb order but anyway, for me doesn't make any sense the pcb designer still not having his own pcb at this time point. Also, if you feel Ok with techkeys selling rev.C right now, that's enough for me ;)

/over and out!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 02 March 2016, 16:06:52
If you have a problem with the PCB being available through a different source than this GB then you must be insane. There were REAL issues with this group buy that we needed people to talk about for YEARS. Where were you when that was happening?
Whatever.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 02 March 2016, 16:22:02
I just wanted to add that TechKeys (and others) have mine and komar's blessing to sell the Rev. C PCBs. If anyone has a problem with it, then you have a problem with me and komar, not i3oilermaker. We made the decision to allow TechKeys to sell these. Any version being sold with the community logo must have our permission to use that logo, and it must always reference geekhack.org.

We knew it would anger some people to allow these to be sold before all the GB PCBs shipped, but decided the benefit outweighed the negative aspects. I had asked komar to release the Rev. C gerbers over a year ago, as I had basically given up hope that the GB orders would ship. I certainly appreciate the efforts of BunnyLake, matt3o, samwisekoi, mashby, HoffmanMyster, and SpAmRaY to salvage this GB and resurrect it from the ashes.

FYI, I have a GB order which I have not received yet, but I'm not angry in the least that TechKeys has these for sale before I receive my GB order. In fact, I ordered a PCB from TechKeys last night, as soon as they went on sale.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:03:49
What about first asking those still waiting for their PCBs if it was ok to allow a commercial party to start producing a rev C clone?
No one should have been allowed to sell a rev C clone board until AFTER the GB was closed and all orders for PCBs fulfilled.

These pcb's are not "CLONE PCB's". There is no such thing because this is an Open Source Hardware Project.
When komar finishes converting the files, they will now be available to the community sooner, so that we can use them for our own projects.
Then we can make a gh60 that supports alps or whatever other crazy things you might think of.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: axtran on Wed, 02 March 2016, 21:37:15
What about first asking those still waiting for their PCBs if it was ok to allow a commercial party to start producing a rev C clone?
No one should have been allowed to sell a rev C clone board until AFTER the GB was closed and all orders for PCBs fulfilled.

These pcb's are not "CLONE PCB's". There is no such thing because this is an Open Source Hardware Project.
When komar finishes converting the files, they will now be available to the community sooner, so that we can use them for our own projects.
Then we can make a gh60 that supports alps or whatever other crazy things you might think of.

hasu already made Alps64 ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 02 March 2016, 21:45:40
Also there have been other group buys where people could order and receive the goods from a vendor before everyone got their GB order. It's more common than you think.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: swill on Thu, 03 March 2016, 09:04:35
I bought one of John Crouse's boards.  I have details of the transaction.  I have tried to get in touch with him, but have not been able to yet since he left the community about 2 years ago.  How do I handle this?  I don't know if his address details are correct, so I don't even know if the contents of his order will ever actually be delivered to him (and in turn to me).  I am sure there are a bunch of situations like this, so a little clarity on this type of situation would be helpful. 

Thanks everyone...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 03 March 2016, 09:11:16
I bought one of John Crouse's boards.  I have details of the transaction.  I have tried to get in touch with him, but have not been able to yet since he left the community about 2 years ago.  How do I handle this?  I don't know if his address details are correct, so I don't even know if the contents of his order will ever actually be delivered to him (and in turn to me).  I am sure there are a bunch of situations like this, so a little clarity on this type of situation would be helpful. 

Thanks everyone...

I did as well. jcrouse's sales were documented in his thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52270.msg1157303#msg1157303

It looks like Hoff is assigned as jcrouse's proxy, so he might be able to send things directly, but it's probably better to see whether jcrouse responds first as I'd rather not make more work for the proxies.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: swill on Thu, 03 March 2016, 09:14:28
I bought one of John Crouse's boards.  I have details of the transaction.  I have tried to get in touch with him, but have not been able to yet since he left the community about 2 years ago.  How do I handle this?  I don't know if his address details are correct, so I don't even know if the contents of his order will ever actually be delivered to him (and in turn to me).  I am sure there are a bunch of situations like this, so a little clarity on this type of situation would be helpful. 

Thanks everyone...

I did as well. jcrouse's sales were documented in his thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52270.msg1157303#msg1157303

It looks like Hoff is assigned as jcrouse's proxy, so he might be able to send things directly, but it's probably better to see whether jcrouse responds first as I'd rather not make more work for the proxies.
I emailed him again this morning, so I will wait a few days to see if he gets back to me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 March 2016, 09:21:07
I bought one of John Crouse's boards.  I have details of the transaction.  I have tried to get in touch with him, but have not been able to yet since he left the community about 2 years ago.  How do I handle this?  I don't know if his address details are correct, so I don't even know if the contents of his order will ever actually be delivered to him (and in turn to me).  I am sure there are a bunch of situations like this, so a little clarity on this type of situation would be helpful. 

Thanks everyone...


I'll just say up front with the mess this group buy is we won't be able to make everything right but I'm going to do my best to get people what they ordered and I'm sure the other proxies are of the same opinion.

The wheels are in motion and people will slowly be receiving address confirmation emails, I'll post here when I've sent them all out but fair warning I only got 5 done last night.  :thumb:

And I'm fine with people contacting me about any orders in my list, specifically if you aren't on the list (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2057098#msg2057098 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2057098#msg2057098))  but bought something from someone who is.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 03 March 2016, 09:22:30
I bought one of John Crouse's boards.  I have details of the transaction.  I have tried to get in touch with him, but have not been able to yet since he left the community about 2 years ago.  How do I handle this?  I don't know if his address details are correct, so I don't even know if the contents of his order will ever actually be delivered to him (and in turn to me).  I am sure there are a bunch of situations like this, so a little clarity on this type of situation would be helpful. 

Thanks everyone...

I did as well. jcrouse's sales were documented in his thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52270.msg1157303#msg1157303

It looks like Hoff is assigned as jcrouse's proxy, so he might be able to send things directly, but it's probably better to see whether jcrouse responds first as I'd rather not make more work for the proxies.

If anyone purchased a board from someone on my list, feel free to contact me via PM.  I've made a mental note of swill and riot, but I'm sure there will be others as well.  (I do see moogle and jorgenslee as buyers from jcrouse too)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 03 March 2016, 11:22:04
Any word on EU and plates?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:22:09
BTW, samwisekoi has been posting to Instagram with his progress.  I'll just re-post it here so people can finally see the actual product.  :)

Sorry for the crappy screenshot, shame you can't just save the pics.

(http://i.imgur.com/lfduiCl.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:28:27
Any word on EU and plates?
It's probably much easier to sort the North American orders first, and send them on to the shipping proxies, then assume that everything else goes to the EU. Rather than, you know, sorting the EU stuff first, then sorting all the NA orders anyway. You guys got PCBs first anyway, so it's only fair we get the plates first this time. ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:31:05
Any word on EU and plates?
It's probably much easier to sort the North American orders first, and send them on to the shipping proxies, then assume that everything else goes to the EU. Rather than, you know, sorting the EU stuff first, then sorting all the NA orders anyway. You guys got PCBs first anyway, so it's only fair we get the plates first this time. ;)

That is what he's doing.  :thumb:  And double/triple checking before sending anything out, to be sure we don't jump the gun.  Regardless of the speed, Ron is being thorough as always, which is paramount considering the level of disorganization involved.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: demik on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:32:25
who do i talk to about moose's stuff since he's permabanned? i can forward it to him, or be the middle man for any communication.

OR HE CAN GET UNBANNED

#FREEMOOSE
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:40:08
who do i talk to about moose's stuff

PM his proxy.  We will be sending emails for confirmation so he should be fine though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: demik on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:58:50
gracias houf
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 03 March 2016, 15:35:01
Hi there.  Better pic attached.

US plates packed.  Double-checking the tiny differences in a couple of them.

(Oddly enough, whomever cut and sorted the plates wasn't totally hep to the differences between "ANSI 1.50" and "ANSI 1.50 Pure".)  I am trying to become hep to them now.

I am going to do plates, then PCBs, then switches and stabs.  I am sure I will enjoy the switches and stabs!

I'll try and Instagram updates as I go.  I am keeping Matt3o and the proxies up to date.

Cheers!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 03 March 2016, 22:15:10
I bought one of John Crouse's boards.  I have details of the transaction.  I have tried to get in touch with him, but have not been able to yet since he left the community about 2 years ago.  How do I handle this?  I don't know if his address details are correct, so I don't even know if the contents of his order will ever actually be delivered to him (and in turn to me).  I am sure there are a bunch of situations like this, so a little clarity on this type of situation would be helpful. 

Thanks everyone...

I did as well. jcrouse's sales were documented in his thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52270.msg1157303#msg1157303

It looks like Hoff is assigned as jcrouse's proxy, so he might be able to send things directly, but it's probably better to see whether jcrouse responds first as I'd rather not make more work for the proxies.

If anyone purchased a board from someone on my list, feel free to contact me via PM.  I've made a mental note of swill and riot, but I'm sure there will be others as well.  (I do see moogle and jorgenslee as buyers from jcrouse too)

Would you consider shipping internationally? I do hope we could contact jcrouse as I have paid around $20 for the shipping fee.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 03 March 2016, 22:41:20
I'm about halfway done sending out address confirmations (I've gotten 4 responses so far.), found this cool little program called Ditto, makes pasting the same things over and over really easy.

Anyways I'm done for the night.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: swill on Fri, 04 March 2016, 00:14:54
I bought one of John Crouse's boards.  I have details of the transaction.  I have tried to get in touch with him, but have not been able to yet since he left the community about 2 years ago.  How do I handle this?  I don't know if his address details are correct, so I don't even know if the contents of his order will ever actually be delivered to him (and in turn to me).  I am sure there are a bunch of situations like this, so a little clarity on this type of situation would be helpful. 

Thanks everyone...

I did as well. jcrouse's sales were documented in his thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52270.msg1157303#msg1157303

It looks like Hoff is assigned as jcrouse's proxy, so he might be able to send things directly, but it's probably better to see whether jcrouse responds first as I'd rather not make more work for the proxies.

If anyone purchased a board from someone on my list, feel free to contact me via PM.  I've made a mental note of swill and riot, but I'm sure there will be others as well.  (I do see moogle and jorgenslee as buyers from jcrouse too)

Would you consider shipping internationally? I do hope we could contact jcrouse as I have paid around $20 for the shipping fee.
Yes. I also paid him about the same in shipping. When it comes down to it, I don't mind paying for shipping again. It sucks,  but at least the entire investment is not lost thanks to these wonderful gentlemen.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: swill on Fri, 04 March 2016, 00:16:52
I'm about halfway done sending out address confirmations (I've gotten 4 responses so far.), found this cool little program called Ditto, makes pasting the same things over and over really easy.

Anyways I'm done for the night.
I am probably late to the game with this,  but if you guys could use some sort of scripting or helper programs built to facilitate this process,  just let me know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hoggy on Fri, 04 March 2016, 00:28:54
I'm about halfway done sending out address confirmations (I've gotten 4 responses so far.), found this cool little program called Ditto, makes pasting the same things over and over really easy.

Anyways I'm done for the night.
Ditto is amazing.  I've been using it for over a year now.  Discovered that you can drag and drop just the other week...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 04 March 2016, 06:26:13
I bought one of John Crouse's boards.  I have details of the transaction.  I have tried to get in touch with him, but have not been able to yet since he left the community about 2 years ago.  How do I handle this?  I don't know if his address details are correct, so I don't even know if the contents of his order will ever actually be delivered to him (and in turn to me).  I am sure there are a bunch of situations like this, so a little clarity on this type of situation would be helpful. 

Thanks everyone...

I did as well. jcrouse's sales were documented in his thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52270.msg1157303#msg1157303

It looks like Hoff is assigned as jcrouse's proxy, so he might be able to send things directly, but it's probably better to see whether jcrouse responds first as I'd rather not make more work for the proxies.

If anyone purchased a board from someone on my list, feel free to contact me via PM.  I've made a mental note of swill and riot, but I'm sure there will be others as well.  (I do see moogle and jorgenslee as buyers from jcrouse too)

Would you consider shipping internationally? I do hope we could contact jcrouse as I have paid around $20 for the shipping fee.
Yes. I also paid him about the same in shipping. When it comes down to it, I don't mind paying for shipping again. It sucks,  but at least the entire investment is not lost thanks to these wonderful gentlemen.

Unfortunately that shipping fee is just what he initially paid (essentially bailing out his lost shipping costs). At this point, for all intents and purposes, you guys are in the same boat as everyone else. Since none of that shipping money made it to us, we will still need to ask for shipping money in order to get it sent out.  :-/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: swill on Fri, 04 March 2016, 06:43:07
I bought one of John Crouse's boards.  I have details of the transaction.  I have tried to get in touch with him, but have not been able to yet since he left the community about 2 years ago.  How do I handle this?  I don't know if his address details are correct, so I don't even know if the contents of his order will ever actually be delivered to him (and in turn to me).  I am sure there are a bunch of situations like this, so a little clarity on this type of situation would be helpful. 

Thanks everyone...

I did as well. jcrouse's sales were documented in his thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52270.msg1157303#msg1157303

It looks like Hoff is assigned as jcrouse's proxy, so he might be able to send things directly, but it's probably better to see whether jcrouse responds first as I'd rather not make more work for the proxies.

If anyone purchased a board from someone on my list, feel free to contact me via PM.  I've made a mental note of swill and riot, but I'm sure there will be others as well.  (I do see moogle and jorgenslee as buyers from jcrouse too)

Would you consider shipping internationally? I do hope we could contact jcrouse as I have paid around $20 for the shipping fee.
Yes. I also paid him about the same in shipping. When it comes down to it, I don't mind paying for shipping again. It sucks,  but at least the entire investment is not lost thanks to these wonderful gentlemen.

Unfortunately that shipping fee is just what he initially paid (essentially bailing out his lost shipping costs). At this point, for all intents and purposes, you guys are in the same boat as everyone else. Since none of that shipping money made it to us, we will still need to ask for shipping money in order to get it sent out.  :-/

Fair enough.  Thanks for letting us know.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 04 March 2016, 08:36:38
who do i talk to about moose's stuff since he's permabanned? i can forward it to him, or be the middle man for any communication.

OR HE CAN GET UNBANNED

#FREEMOOSE

We're doing e-mails and I've already reached out to him and received a response. He's good.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: demik on Fri, 04 March 2016, 08:42:33
who do i talk to about moose's stuff since he's permabanned? i can forward it to him, or be the middle man for any communication.

OR HE CAN GET UNBANNED

#FREEMOOSE

We're doing e-mails and I've already reached out to him and received a response. He's good.
Awesome. Thanks mashby.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 04 March 2016, 11:50:08
Quick update at my end:

I have now opened all of the remaining boxes and spread them out.  I have:

- Lots of switches in bulk.
- Lots of stabs in bulk.
- An annoying bag of tiny screws that I am afraid I will need to split up to go with the stabs.
- A few bags of mixed switches clearly sorted for individual users.
- Several reels and containers of SMD parts that will need to be sorted into "DIY Kits".  (I don't have details about these yet.)

I'm going to sort switches next, then move on to stabs.  If anyone can point me to an authoritative listing of what, exactly, is supposed to be in a "DIY Kit" I would greatly appreciate it.

More when there is more to share...

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 04 March 2016, 13:10:33
If anyone can point me to an authoritative listing of what, exactly, is supposed to be in a "DIY Kit" I would greatly appreciate it.

Is this helpful?  "controller, few capacitors, resistors, single crystal, switch, USB, and roughly 65 diodes"

It still doesn't give exact quantities for most components...  :-/

PCB ($30) – You’ll only need to solder switches, a single LED (included) for the capslock, and a resistor (included). Everything you need to solder is through-hole. All SMD parts are pre-soldered at the factory by a pick-and-place machine.

DIY PCB ($15)
– You’ll need to solder EVERYTHING, including all SMD and through-hole components. The SMD components are provided (controller, few capacitors, resistors, single crystal, switch, USB, and roughly 65 diodes).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 04 March 2016, 17:34:38
I spent the afternoon sorting switches.  Hundreds had spilled in the boxes and mixed, and the only markings are in Chinese.  I did NOT count them carefully yet.  Here is what I found so far:

#1 There seem to be zero plate-mount switches.  So everyone gets PCB-mount switches, which should be fine, since the PCB has mounting holes.  Better, IMHO.  However, different may annoy some.

#2 There are no locking switches that I could find.  I am not surprised, but whomever ordered them may be.

#3 At some point in the past, the White and Clear switches lost any identification on the bulk bags.  I believe I have enough in total to fill the White and Clear orders, but I do not think the mix is correct.

So, if you care greatly about Whites vs. Clears, please let your new stand-in proxy know.

And if any of the above annoys you, that's fair.  Please remember that neither I nor any of the stand-in proxies HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ORDERING PROCESS.

I'm just Joe Friday reporting the facts, ma'am.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 04 March 2016, 17:52:30
Sorry to bother you, samwisekoi. In reference to the white and clear switches, do you mean that they will be mixed together or that someone with a white switch order might get clear switches instead and/or vice versa?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy
Post by: qwack on Fri, 04 March 2016, 19:10:58
If anyone can point me to an authoritative listing of what, exactly, is supposed to be in a "DIY Kit" I would greatly appreciate it.

Is this helpful?  "controller, few capacitors, resistors, single crystal, switch, USB, and roughly 65 diodes"

It still doesn't give exact quantities for most components...  :-/

I guess Komar knows the exact BOM for each board.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 04 March 2016, 19:40:48
I don't think anyone who had locking switches on their order was actually billed for any, as we didn't have a source for them, or a reliable price. So that shouldn't be an issue, at least.

Regarding clears vs whites, I don't think the GB proper offered whites, that I remember. Only people who ordered switches directly from 7bit and had them shipped to me should have had any whites, from what I recall.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 04 March 2016, 19:50:57
PMed who I believe my proxy was, but for posterity, dgneo (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=21840) bought my spot from me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kdash4 on Fri, 04 March 2016, 21:58:16
I received the email to confirm my address but it doesn't seem to include the switches ordered separately that was supposedly shipped to someone in the group buy.
I barely remember this and I've been out of the keyboard thing for a while.
I have the invoice to the switches I paid separately if you need that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 04 March 2016, 22:26:10
I received the email to confirm my address but it doesn't seem to include the switches ordered separately that was supposedly shipped to someone in the group buy.
I barely remember this and I've been out of the keyboard thing for a while.
I have the invoice to the switches I paid separately if you need that.

Reply to that email verifying your address and let me know about those switches and we will do our best to work it out. :thumb:


Also I've sent out all my emails so if anyone sees this and didn't get one from me but thought you should let me know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: rtos on Sat, 05 March 2016, 08:21:57
If anyone is interested in taking over my order (1 GH60 PCB, 1 Poker plate, Costar stabilizer set, 63x MX browns) please PM me with any offers (I am in the U.S. and on Spamray's list). 

(I originally paid for assembly service and am more than a little annoyed to see that not only am I out that money but that I will also need to pay shipping fees again if I want to ever get my (unassembled) parts. Needless to say, I am not inclined to want to shell out any more money for this.)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: regack on Sat, 05 March 2016, 10:42:24
If anyone can point me to an authoritative listing of what, exactly, is supposed to be in a "DIY Kit" I would greatly appreciate it.

Is this helpful?  "controller, few capacitors, resistors, single crystal, switch, USB, and roughly 65 diodes"

It still doesn't give exact quantities for most components...  :-/

PCB ($30) – You’ll only need to solder switches, a single LED (included) for the capslock, and a resistor (included). Everything you need to solder is through-hole. All SMD parts are pre-soldered at the factory by a pick-and-place machine.

DIY PCB ($15)
– You’ll need to solder EVERYTHING, including all SMD and through-hole components. The SMD components are provided (controller, few capacitors, resistors, single crystal, switch, USB, and roughly 65 diodes).
I haven't seen the Rev C pcb, but the bom should be something like this :
Qty(2) C1, C2 22pf 0805 Capacitors
Qty(2) C3, C8 1uf 0805 Capacitors
Qty(4) C4, C5, C6, C7 0.1uf 0805 Capacitors
Qty (2) R1, R2 22Ohm 0805 Resistors
Qty (2) R3, R5 10kOhm 0805 Resistors
Qty (1) X1 16Mhz Crystal/oscilator
Qty (1) ATMEGA32U4-AU
Qty (1) some kind of tactile switch
Qty (1) J1 - USB mini-b connector
Qty (65) SMD diodes

There are some other resistors for LEDs, but I think they're all through-hole.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 05 March 2016, 11:16:09
Didn't we pay more for the a assembly service? Where did that money go?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 05 March 2016, 11:21:00
There's a ton of money unaccounted for.  Unless TJ hands over records, we won't know what happened to our.  The people picking up the mess can only account for the money they were given.  I would love TJ to share what happened with all the funds, especially since this was a for profit buy that had parts come in under budget, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.

I wish the mods would close his subforum until the money is accounted for.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 05 March 2016, 11:32:44
just so folks know with the eu side of things, the new OP post isnt quite accurate

shipping where needed will be priced differently, and ill be able to offer assembly services for people
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 05 March 2016, 11:37:02
Mass reply in-line below.  Note that until I get a counting scale (or an infinite amount of free time) these answers are coming BEFORE I make detailed counts.

I have a call in to a local scale-rental company I've used in the past.  Hopefully I will be able to get a scale appropriate to weigh-count switches, stabs AND those nasty little SMD parts.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Sorry to bother you, samwisekoi. In reference to the white and clear switches, do you mean that they will be mixed together or that someone with a white switch order might get clear switches instead and/or vice versa?

Individual shipments will come from the new stand-in proxies, but we should not ship any mixed bags on purpose.  At the moment I think that everyone who we think ordered Clears will get Clears.  However, some of the people who ordered Whites will get Clears instead.

I received the email to confirm my address but it doesn't seem to include the switches ordered separately that was supposedly shipped to someone in the group buy.
I barely remember this and I've been out of the keyboard thing for a while.
I have the invoice to the switches I paid separately if you need that.

I have your switches in a little bag.  I also have four other little bags of switches that are probably in the same state.  Please let me or your new stand-in proxy know your correct address.

0247:HoffmanMyster:     25 Black, 75 Green
0294:kdash4:            2 White, 60 Clear, 30 Grey
0190:Strelock:          67 White, 67 Green
0242:n0rvig:            63 Brown
0262:gomez18:           63 Blue


Didn't we pay more for the a assembly service? Where did that money go?

I have no idea, but if there is someone who wants to assemble 60+/- of these, I'd be delighted to not have to count surface-mount capacitors until I go blind.

If anyone can point me to an authoritative listing of what, exactly, is supposed to be in a "DIY Kit" I would greatly appreciate it.

Is this helpful?  "controller, few capacitors, resistors, single crystal, switch, USB, and roughly 65 diodes"

It still doesn't give exact quantities for most components...  :-/

PCB ($30) – You’ll only need to solder switches, a single LED (included) for the capslock, and a resistor (included). Everything you need to solder is through-hole. All SMD parts are pre-soldered at the factory by a pick-and-place machine.

DIY PCB ($15)
– You’ll need to solder EVERYTHING, including all SMD and through-hole components. The SMD components are provided (controller, few capacitors, resistors, single crystal, switch, USB, and roughly 65 diodes).
I haven't seen the Rev C pcb, but the bom should be something like this :
Qty(2) C1, C2 22pf 0805 Capacitors
Qty(2) C3, C8 1uf 0805 Capacitors
Qty(4) C4, C5, C6, C7 0.1uf 0805 Capacitors
Qty (2) R1, R2 22Ohm 0805 Resistors
Qty (2) R3, R5 10kOhm 0805 Resistors
Qty (1) X1 16Mhz Crystal/oscilator
Qty (1) ATMEGA32U4-AU
Qty (1) some kind of tactile switch
Qty (1) J1 - USB mini-b connector
Qty (65) SMD diodes

There are some other resistors for LEDs, but I think they're all through-hole.

I am going to use the above BOM until/unless someone provides a more authoritative version.

I don't think anyone who had locking switches on their order was actually billed for any, as we didn't have a source for them, or a reliable price. So that shouldn't be an issue, at least.

Regarding clears vs whites, I don't think the GB proper offered whites, that I remember. Only people who ordered switches directly from 7bit and had them shipped to me should have had any whites, from what I recall.

Hmmm.  That may be true, but at this moment, the stand-in proxies believe some people ordered Whites.  I cannot say.  I seem to recall some discussion about making all of the switches PCB-mount, since those can be used either way.  Anyhow, I am certain I have a bag of White switches that I am going to split into thirds and send down the pyramid.

=====================

More when I know more,

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 05 March 2016, 11:44:41
I need a bunch of blacks samwisekoi as none were included at all in the switches sent to me, I was told they are with the conus stuff
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 05 March 2016, 12:02:26
I need a bunch of blacks samwisekoi as none were included at all in the switches sent to me, I was told they are with the conus stuff

You've got an e-mail from me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 05 March 2016, 12:03:33
And you have a returned although slightly rushed one from me as I'm bathing the little one
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Sat, 05 March 2016, 17:58:31
Sam, you're talking about US orders right? At this point I have no clue who has what and where.

Either way I have an international order and indeed ordered white switches from 7bit if that helps.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 06 March 2016, 10:54:50
Sam, you're talking about US orders right? At this point I have no clue who has what and where.

Either way I have an international order and indeed ordered white switches from 7bit if that helps.

im dealing with international orders good sir
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Sun, 06 March 2016, 22:15:32
I don't think anyone who had locking switches on their order was actually billed for any, as we didn't have a source for them, or a reliable price. So that shouldn't be an issue, at least.

Regarding clears vs whites, I don't think the GB proper offered whites, that I remember. Only people who ordered switches directly from 7bit and had them shipped to me should have had any whites, from what I recall.

I ordered whites and clears :/ Even had to pay TJ a second time because they had to be sourced from 7bit. Have the PMs to back it up too. Lol. weird to think that clear boards were really really rare back when.

This could make life somewhat interesting :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: funkymeeba on Mon, 07 March 2016, 00:25:27
It's going to suck to pay shipping again on this, especially considering my track record of getting boned over by group buys. Mother**** a cactus.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mashby on Mon, 07 March 2016, 08:11:17
Regarding clears vs whites, I don't think the GB proper offered whites, that I remember. Only people who ordered switches directly from 7bit and had them shipped to me should have had any whites, from what I recall.

Whites were offered, but I ordered them for my board.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 07 March 2016, 21:55:31
Anyone who thinks they should have heard from me and did not get an email needs to PM me a better email address as I have attempted to contact all my peoples....just got done sending a PM to 19 of you who I haven't heard back from.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 07 March 2016, 22:48:57
Holy crap, this is finally happening. I don't even remember what I ordered. :))

I haven't been keeping up with this at all lately, but huge thanks to everyone who's helping to make this GB work out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Tue, 08 March 2016, 13:09:17
Anyone who thinks they should have heard from me and did not get an email needs to PM me a better email address as I have attempted to contact all my peoples....just got done sending a PM to 19 of you who I haven't heard back from.

Yo Spam,

Has all of the responsible parties tried contacting the people on their list? I am not on your list, but have yet to be contacted.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 08 March 2016, 13:10:12
Anyone who thinks they should have heard from me and did not get an email needs to PM me a better email address as I have attempted to contact all my peoples....just got done sending a PM to 19 of you who I haven't heard back from.

Yo Spam,

Has all of the responsible parties tried contacting the people on their list? I am not on your list, but have yet to be contacted.

I have not contacted everyone on my list, so don't panic yet.  :)  (not sure if you're on my list)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 08 March 2016, 13:16:06
Is there a list of lists?  That is, do we have a list of users/orders per stand-in proxy?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 08 March 2016, 13:56:29
Is there a list of lists?  That is, do we have a list of users/orders per stand-in proxy?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Yes there is! And some of these have changed, for example if you are in this list and are international your proxy is bunnylake, we are only handling  USA and Canada.

PLEASE do not contact your proxy YET! They will let you know when they are ready.

If you are not in the list you better contact me ASAP instead.

EU and International orders are all through BunnyLake

================================

PROXY: Mashby

WhiteFireDragon
Loligagger
viasacra89
affect656
Muffet
badcop
mashby
pd_snipe
elton5354
esoomenona
samwisekoi
rknize
Germiphene
jdcarpe
Glod
jspark
Index
myndzi
IvanIvanovich
oneproduct
Atlas
THE_PUN_STOPS_HERE
Grimey
Regack
duq
watterrbottle
aggiejy
tjweir
Turbinia
iMav
Trueno86
Greystoke
n0rvig
ekw808
precarious
funkymeeba
cgbuen
nebo
funinthesun69
skkhai
DrSchlock
rymnd
jolonnar
domoaligato
Binge
winzds
registered99
kravlin
T0ken
viasacra89
tricheboars
vorn


================================

PROXY: SpamRay

salmo
Caceous
reca
tadbitnerdy
annerick
RickyJ
terminal_geek
electrogeek007
xavierblak
chel-
fydo
orca416
engicoder
durandalx
olaph
r3dx
Turkishrambo
kinruan
Atakp
Acetrak
hellocodes
madderoftime
whiteduck
danielucf
LastAndroid
whiskytango
TheProfosist
thegagne
orlando
jabar
TheQsanity
rtos
ComradeSniper
Dubsgalore
Leslieann
kdash4
modulor
JWK
digitalleftovers
hashbaz
feng
John Fourth
ferociousfingerings
gimpster
wildcard
j2c8w6f8
Thechemist
do_Og@n
3rdo
SIfo
PaperDollMan
stoic-lemon
Robstero
spamray


================================

PROXY: HoffmanMyster


jcrouse
i488
Gameaholic
MKULTRA
latin00032
polarpigs
nubbinator
mark0331
CPTBadAss
disperse
NumberJ
TheFlyingRaccoon
Kabuks
ramshao
metalliqaz
fl0w3n
flowbish
gomez18
Tranquilite
OddOne
i3oilermaker
Viett
gtarget
boost
CommunistWitchDr
Beauthegamer
Halverson
Rashunaleyes
Strelok
gnubag
Keebo27
WRXChris
Infallible
Lugoues
mistakemistake
prdlm2009
eyesmiles
Glissant
miscsubbin
bw
ApocalypseMaow
YUIOP
metafour
ninjadoc
Jorgenstein
Sai
Autolyze
Inochi
Jocelyn
Dj1113
registered99
spdx
GeorgeK
HoffmanMyster

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Tue, 08 March 2016, 14:32:07
I posted the same quote SpamRay did. but didn't want to repost.

So here's a link to kittens instead

http://www.randomkittengenerator.com/cats/rotator.php

Now back to your regularly scheduled keyboards.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 08 March 2016, 15:51:29
I posted the same quote SpamRay did. but didn't want to repost.

So here's a link to kittens instead

http://www.randomkittengenerator.com/cats/rotator.php

Now back to your regularly scheduled keyboards.

LOL! Nicely done kravlin.

I am not done with my list yet. I'm about 25% of the way through.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (WAITING FOR ???)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 10 March 2016, 03:19:13
still no update on parts to the eu guys

just keeping you informed, will let you know when that changes

 :thumb: Will await further info!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HannibalChew on Wed, 16 March 2016, 08:01:14
What's going on with the rest of the European orders? (sorry if its been posted previously, i've been out the loop for a while)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: asura on Wed, 16 March 2016, 09:17:37
What's going on with the rest of the European orders? (sorry if its been posted previously, i've been out the loop for a while)

still no update on parts to the eu guys

just keeping you informed, will let you know when that changes

 :thumb: Will await further info!


Literally the post above you.

Though a bump back onto page 1 was good  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mkaito on Thu, 17 March 2016, 12:17:34
Just to be clear on what to expect, as an "international", I have to pay again for shipping and assembly, correct?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 20 March 2016, 23:27:12
Just to be clear on what to expect, as an "international", I have to pay again for shipping and assembly, correct?
I thought it was just a shipping and assembly wasn't an option.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 21 March 2016, 16:59:42
Coming up to a month since the last no update update for EU plates, any updates yet?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 21 March 2016, 21:19:19
Just to be clear on what to expect, as an "international", I have to pay again for shipping and assembly, correct?
I thought it was just a shipping and assembly wasn't an option.

The USA/Canada proxies are not doing any assembly that I am aware of. bunnylake mentioned previously he might be able to help with some assembly, he is the international proxy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 22 March 2016, 01:57:43
Just to be clear on what to expect, as an "international", I have to pay again for shipping and assembly, correct?

ill assembly international orders for free

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 22 March 2016, 02:03:45
oh also for international guys

i havent heard anything further about getting the rest of the EU parts, but i also havent chased it up again since i last spoke to sam or matt, when i get home this afternoon ill contact both and see what the plan is, everything is one hand with sam, i believe its just a case of trying to decipher the spreadsheets to work out numbers and get it packed and shipped
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 22 March 2016, 11:16:47
oh also for international guys

i havent heard anything further about getting the rest of the EU parts, but i also havent chased it up again since i last spoke to sam or matt, when i get home this afternoon ill contact both and see what the plan is, everything is one hand with sam, i believe its just a case of trying to decipher the spreadsheets to work out numbers and get it packed and shipped

I have almost everything here.  Once I have everything, then it is a matter of counting thousands of switches and hundreds of teeny-tiny SMD components.

PCBs and plates are counted and boxed.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Wed, 23 March 2016, 04:57:33
Thank you for the updates, was unsure if the plates and switches were together or not. Keep up the good work, i'll be back in a month ;P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 23 March 2016, 22:18:06
So sorry for the delay guys, but I'm happy to report that I've sent out all of the confirmation e-mails for the orders that I am proxying.  :thumb:

Only 5 bounce backs for the 52 orders that I have, so I sent a follow-up PM.

------------------------------------
Next Steps (for me)
------------------------------------
Samwisekoi is waiting on me to confirm a few numbers which I'll do tomorrow. I just wanted to get the conformation e-mails out first in case I overlooked something.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 24 March 2016, 05:50:25

So sorry for the delay guys, but I'm happy to report that I've sent out all of the confirmation e-mails for the orders that I am proxying.  :thumb:

Only 5 bounce backs for the 52 orders that I have, so I sent a follow-up PM.

------------------------------------
Next Steps (for me)
------------------------------------
Samwisekoi is waiting on me to confirm a few numbers which I'll do tomorrow. I just wanted to get the conformation e-mails out first in case I overlooked something.

Thanks mashby!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Thu, 24 March 2016, 18:53:27
So sorry for the delay guys, but I'm happy to report that I've sent out all of the confirmation e-mails for the orders that I am proxying.  :thumb:

Only 5 bounce backs for the 52 orders that I have, so I sent a follow-up PM.

------------------------------------
Next Steps (for me)
------------------------------------
Samwisekoi is waiting on me to confirm a few numbers which I'll do tomorrow. I just wanted to get the conformation e-mails out first in case I overlooked something.

Yahhh! Big Thanks Mashby!

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Thu, 24 March 2016, 23:35:58
So sorry for the delay guys, but I'm happy to report that I've sent out all of the confirmation e-mails for the orders that I am proxying.  :thumb:

Only 5 bounce backs for the 52 orders that I have, so I sent a follow-up PM.

------------------------------------
Next Steps (for me)
------------------------------------
Samwisekoi is waiting on me to confirm a few numbers which I'll do tomorrow. I just wanted to get the conformation e-mails out first in case I overlooked something.

Thank you!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 25 March 2016, 00:05:46
Can you guys send me WFD and Raccoons stuff... I'll ship it to them, but I would like to put a hornet nest in it first...

thx
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 25 March 2016, 06:28:04
Can you guys send me WFD and Raccoons stuff... I'll ship it to them, but I would like to put a hornet nest in it first...

thx

(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Cartoon-Character-Mutley-Laughing.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mkaito on Fri, 25 March 2016, 07:20:12
Just to be clear on what to expect, as an "international", I have to pay again for shipping and assembly, correct?

ill assembly international orders for free

Thank you a lot. That is incredibly nice of you. Those of us with a tighter budget are sure to appreciate it. But what about shipping costs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: viasacra89 on Fri, 25 March 2016, 19:05:22
Is there a list of lists?  That is, do we have a list of users/orders per stand-in proxy?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Yes there is! And some of these have changed, for example if you are in this list and are international your proxy is bunnylake, we are only handling  USA and Canada.

PLEASE do not contact your proxy YET! They will let you know when they are ready.

If you are not in the list you better contact me ASAP instead.

EU and International orders are all through BunnyLake

================================

PROXY: Mashby

WhiteFireDragon
Loligagger
viasacra89
affect656
Muffet
badcop
mashby
pd_snipe
elton5354
esoomenona
samwisekoi
rknize
Germiphene
jdcarpe
Glod
jspark
Index
myndzi
IvanIvanovich
oneproduct
Atlas
THE_PUN_STOPS_HERE
Grimey
Regack
duq
watterrbottle
aggiejy
tjweir
Turbinia
iMav
Trueno86
Greystoke
n0rvig
ekw808
precarious
funkymeeba
cgbuen
nebo
funinthesun69
skkhai
DrSchlock
rymnd
jolonnar
domoaligato
Binge
winzds
registered99
kravlin
T0ken
viasacra89
tricheboars
vorn


================================

PROXY: SpamRay

salmo
Caceous
reca
tadbitnerdy
annerick
RickyJ
terminal_geek
electrogeek007
xavierblak
chel-
fydo
orca416
engicoder
durandalx
olaph
r3dx
Turkishrambo
kinruan
Atakp
Acetrak
hellocodes
madderoftime
whiteduck
danielucf
LastAndroid
whiskytango
TheProfosist
thegagne
orlando
jabar
TheQsanity
rtos
ComradeSniper
Dubsgalore
Leslieann
kdash4
modulor
JWK
digitalleftovers
hashbaz
feng
John Fourth
ferociousfingerings
gimpster
wildcard
j2c8w6f8
Thechemist
do_Og@n
3rdo
SIfo
PaperDollMan
stoic-lemon
Robstero
spamray


================================

PROXY: HoffmanMyster


jcrouse
i488
Gameaholic
MKULTRA
latin00032
polarpigs
nubbinator
mark0331
CPTBadAss
disperse
NumberJ
TheFlyingRaccoon
Kabuks
ramshao
metalliqaz
fl0w3n
flowbish
gomez18
Tranquilite
OddOne
i3oilermaker
Viett
gtarget
boost
CommunistWitchDr
Beauthegamer
Halverson
Rashunaleyes
Strelok
gnubag
Keebo27
WRXChris
Infallible
Lugoues
mistakemistake
prdlm2009
eyesmiles
Glissant
miscsubbin
bw
ApocalypseMaow
YUIOP
metafour
ninjadoc
Jorgenstein
Sai
Autolyze
Inochi
Jocelyn
Dj1113
registered99
spdx
GeorgeK
HoffmanMyster


I seem to be in there twice (under mashby)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 29 March 2016, 09:01:20
I seem to be in there twice (under mashby)

Viasacra89 - I e-mailed you your shipping/order confirmation on March 23rd and you responded. Is there a problem?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 29 March 2016, 09:03:47
I seem to be in there twice (under mashby)

Viasacra89 - I e-mailed you your shipping/order confirmation on March 23rd and you responded. Is there a problem?

I think he's referring to the fact that he's listed twice under your name (3rd from the top, 3rd from the bottom)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Razer1987 on Tue, 29 March 2016, 11:14:25
Hi everyone,

First, I would like to thank people who take care of us by joining this GB as proxy.

I would love to get an "ISO 1.5x with short R-shift" plate (I initialy ordered an ISO 1.25 plate but taste change with time...)

If someone willing to trade or sell this plate I will be glad to take it but if not, is there a way to get the file of this plate and made it cut ?

I know I could buy universal ISO plate easily but I am looking for costar stabs.

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: boost on Tue, 29 March 2016, 14:32:56
I didn't get a shipping invoice/email :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 29 March 2016, 15:12:09
I didn't get a shipping invoice/email :(

You are in my list.  I have not sent out all my emails.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: boost on Tue, 29 March 2016, 15:15:02
I didn't get a shipping invoice/email :(

You are in my list.  I have not sent out all my emails.

Right, mybad. Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 29 March 2016, 15:16:54
I didn't get a shipping invoice/email :(

You are in my list.  I have not sent out all my emails.

Right, mybad. Thanks

No, no worries.  I'm behind so the question is more than fair.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hellerbarde on Sat, 02 April 2016, 19:39:10
Mad Props to all involved in getting this to some sort of completion!  :thumb:

Whats the status with the plates for EU orders?

I read through the OP edit and poked around in the last few pages but didn't find an answer.

Will I get an email/PM when I have to pay the shipping fee?

cheers,
hellerbarde
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Sat, 02 April 2016, 23:28:26
Mad Props to all involved in getting this to some sort of completion!  :thumb:

Whats the status with the plates for EU orders?

I read through the OP edit and poked around in the last few pages but didn't find an answer.

Will I get an email/PM when I have to pay the shipping fee?

cheers,
hellerbarde

Bunny is handling your stuff, there's still a plan to get stuff to EU somehow.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 03 April 2016, 09:36:02
I will get the stuff to Bunny in Europe. My current plan is to rent a counting scale and pack the proxy shipments next weekend.

 - Ron |samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Sun, 03 April 2016, 10:43:09
So sorry for the delay guys, but I'm happy to report that I've sent out all of the confirmation e-mails for the orders that I am proxying.  :thumb:

Only 5 bounce backs for the 52 orders that I have, so I sent a follow-up PM.

------------------------------------
Next Steps (for me)
------------------------------------
Samwisekoi is waiting on me to confirm a few numbers which I'll do tomorrow. I just wanted to get the conformation e-mails out first in case I overlooked something.

Hi mashby I'm in your list but I didn't get an email!  Sent a PM to ask for sure, just replying here just in case too.

Thanks for picking up the pieces!


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jabar on Sun, 03 April 2016, 17:52:00
got an email from SpamRay about a month ago, waiting patiently for the followup for new shipping payment
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 04 April 2016, 03:00:27
I will get the stuff to Bunny in Europe. My current plan is to rent a counting scale and pack the proxy shipments next weekend.

 - Ron |samwisekoi

Do we have any timescales? The shipping expected to take a month or so or a few days and are we looking at extra cost?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: odd on Wed, 06 April 2016, 18:49:34
I bought the version that Techkeys is selling and it's awesome

pics incoming.

My point is I'll volunteer to do the soldering for anyone who needs it done. I am new so I am in the process of taking pics of all my recent work and current work so you can see my quality. I'm located in the Bay Area and all I ask for is to pay for shipping
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 07 April 2016, 11:36:18
I read the op. Im in the US. So, im still waiting for an invoice, right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 07 April 2016, 11:57:21
I read the op. Im in the US. So, im still waiting for an invoice, right?

@hoffmanmyster is your proxy, I know he's been derailed by work and real life lately but he will be contacting you to confirm your shipping info and explain what the plan is if he hasn't already.

TL;DR: samwisekoi has the goods is sorting them and when your proxy gets your things he will invoice you for shipping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 07 April 2016, 12:32:54
I read the op. Im in the US. So, im still waiting for an invoice, right?

@hoffmanmyster is your proxy, I know he's been derailed by work and real life lately but he will be contacting you to confirm your shipping info and explain what the plan is if he hasn't already.

TL;DR: samwisekoi has the goods is sorting them and when your proxy gets your things he will invoice you for shipping.

Yep.  My emails are slightly delayed, but are on the way.  :thumb:  I apologize for the wait.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 07 April 2016, 12:39:10
I read the op. Im in the US. So, im still waiting for an invoice, right?

@hoffmanmyster is your proxy, I know he's been derailed by work and real life lately but he will be contacting you to confirm your shipping info and explain what the plan is if he hasn't already.

TL;DR: samwisekoi has the goods is sorting them and when your proxy gets your things he will invoice you for shipping.

Yep.  My emails are slightly delayed, but are on the way.  :thumb:  I apologize for the wait.

Hi, did you send the emails yet? This wait is unacceptable.

sryfortrollingplzdonthurtme(unlessitsinbed,maybeweneedasafeword?)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 07 April 2016, 13:01:32
I read the op. Im in the US. So, im still waiting for an invoice, right?

@hoffmanmyster is your proxy, I know he's been derailed by work and real life lately but he will be contacting you to confirm your shipping info and explain what the plan is if he hasn't already.

TL;DR: samwisekoi has the goods is sorting them and when your proxy gets your things he will invoice you for shipping.

Yep.  My emails are slightly delayed, but are on the way.  :thumb:  I apologize for the wait.

Hi HoffmanMyster,

I would like to transfer my order(which I bought from jcrouse) to swill. Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: asura on Thu, 07 April 2016, 13:10:38
Hi, did you send the emails yet? This wait is unacceptable.

sryfortrollingplzdonthurtme(unlessitsinbed,maybeweneedasafeword?)

Hehheh, good one!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 07 April 2016, 13:10:49
Counting scale ordered for this weekend.  Assuming nothing goes wrong, I should be able to count 20,000 keycaps into proxy-sized shipments this weekend.  Hopefully the DIY kits as well, although those are still an unclear PITA.

Regarding Europe, I will contribute postage for a bulk shipment to BunnyLake, but I don't yet have the details for that shipment.  I DO know what the US proxies want.

So: shipments to US-based proxies should go out next week.  Timeline for bulk shipment to Europe remains TBD.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s. As soon as I typed the message above, I saw another request for change had been posted.  Any change to the proxy counts I have today will cause this whole thing to slip by at least a week.  Renting the counting scale will cost me around $300 USD, so I only am going to do that once!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 07 April 2016, 13:17:20
Ron, for some reason I thought that the DIY PCB kits we ordered were converted to assembled PCBs, due to volume discounts. Is that not the case?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 07 April 2016, 13:18:45
p.s. As soon as I typed the message above, I saw another request for change had been posted.  Any change to the proxy counts I have today will cause this whole thing to slip by at least a week.  Renting the counting scale will cost me around $300 USD, so I only am going to do that once!

If you are talking about my post, you don't have to worry about it. Swill and I bought at the same guy(jcrouse) which Hoff proxies.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 07 April 2016, 13:18:49
Counting scale ordered for this weekend.  Assuming nothing goes wrong, I should be able to count 20,000 keycaps into proxy-sized shipments this weekend.  Hopefully the DIY kits as well, although those are still an unclear PITA.

Regarding Europe, I will contribute postage for a bulk shipment to BunnyLake, but I don't yet have the details for that shipment.  I DO know what the US proxies want.

So: shipments to US-based proxies should go out next week.  Timeline for bulk shipment to Europe remains TBD.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s. As soon as I typed the message above, I saw another request for change had been posted.  Any change to the proxy counts I have today will cause this whole thing to slip by at least a week.  Renting the counting scale will cost me around $300 USD, so I only am going to do that once!


Thanks a ton for all of your hard work Ron!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 07 April 2016, 14:10:01
p.s. As soon as I typed the message above, I saw another request for change had been posted.  Any change to the proxy counts I have today will cause this whole thing to slip by at least a week.  Renting the counting scale will cost me around $300 USD, so I only am going to do that once!

If you are talking about my post, you don't have to worry about it. Swill and I bought at the same guy(jcrouse) which Hoff proxies.

Yes, if people want to swap/sell orders I will just handle that on my end. 

If someone from mashby or Ray's list chooses to take over an additional order from my list, I presume shipping costs will just be eaten.  Changing counts at this point is fairly unreasonable.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 07 April 2016, 14:41:48
p.s. As soon as I typed the message above, I saw another request for change had been posted.  Any change to the proxy counts I have today will cause this whole thing to slip by at least a week.  Renting the counting scale will cost me around $300 USD, so I only am going to do that once!

If you are talking about my post, you don't have to worry about it. Swill and I bought at the same guy(jcrouse) which Hoff proxies.

Yes, if people want to swap/sell orders I will just handle that on my end. 

If someone from mashby or Ray's list chooses to take over an additional order from my list, I presume shipping costs will just be eaten.  Changing counts at this point is fairly unreasonable.

^ This.

dgneo, I am happy to help.  I've been waiting on three myself for all this time.  And now that they are here, I am also waiting for everyone else to get theirs before I build mine!

jdcarpe, I don't know about that, but I do know that I (a) have the DIY components and bare PCBs, and (b) I do not have enough assembled PCBs to cover the DIY orders.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 09 April 2016, 14:09:53
Switch Counting Day Update and Question

I'm in the office on a Saturday counting and packing GH60 switches.  As of this moment (11:46am my time) I have all the switches counted and packed for the US proxies EXCEPT MX Whites and Clears.  That is the good news.

The bad news is that during the endless months and hand-offs from person to person this project has undergone, I have fewer MX White and MX Clear switches than are required by the orders the US proxies are going to try to fill.  I am very slightly short on Clear switches, but very short on Whites.  Probably 5-7 keyboards worth.

I have a few options:

1. I could ship what I have, leaving the proxies unable to fill some orders.

2. I could wait until someone who isn't me locates the missing switches, if they exist anywhere.  This delays everyone's orders further.

3. I could fill the gaps with the closest available switch types.  Probably Browns for missing Clears and Greens for missing Whites.

4. I could ship everything except Whites and Clears; the proxies could ask everyone who wants those switches what they would accept as a substitution, and I could ship the balance of the switches as soon as that was decided.

5. Something else I haven't thought of.

Since everyone wants their order, my inclination is to go with option #4 so that the majority of orders can be filled sooner rather than later.  I think getting some of the orders out is better than getting none of the orders out.

For now, I will go count stabilizers (yay!) and then check back here to see if anyone has replied with a brilliant suggestion.  If not, I will proceed with option #4.

TL;DR We don't have enough White and Clear switches. If this affects you, please reply here with a suggestion.

In other news:


Non-US Orders:  Neither Bunnylake nor I have details about what I should send him.  Both of us are willing to get these shipments under way, but we don't know enough to do so.  If this annoys you, please yell at someone who isn't me, Bunnylake, or Matt3o.

DIY Kits:  I have all of the tiny parts, but I am not at all certain what I should do with them.  In particular, the controllers probably require special handling.  I purchased anti-static bags, but I am not sure if that is sufficient.  Also, the best guess I have so far is to use the BOM from WFD for the kits, and who knows if that is correct!

That is all of the news from GH60 - Salvage Mode Central for the moment.

Cheers!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 09 April 2016, 14:15:44
You can skip my personal order of mx whites I don't need them.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Sat, 09 April 2016, 18:10:10
All I ordered was whites and clears......

If i need to, I can procure my own switches, although i'd prefer not to.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mkaito on Sat, 09 April 2016, 21:24:55
Non-US Orders:  Neither Bunnylake nor I have details about what I should send him.  Both of us are willing to get these shipments under way, but we don't know enough to do so.  If this annoys you, please yell at someone who isn't me, Bunnylake, or Matt3o.

I see. Is there anything that can be done to figure out what needs to be transferred to Bunnylake? Because it sounds like non-US orders are effectively blocked indefinitely.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 10 April 2016, 08:56:28
Non-US Orders:  Neither Bunnylake nor I have details about what I should send him.  Both of us are willing to get these shipments under way, but we don't know enough to do so.  If this annoys you, please yell at someone who isn't me, Bunnylake, or Matt3o.

I see. Is there anything that can be done to figure out what needs to be transferred to Bunnylake? Because it sounds like non-US orders are effectively blocked indefinitely.

We are trying to figure out how to figure that out.  I believe Bunnylake has your PCBs, so I may just ship all the "extra" plates to the UK.  That would be expensive, but it would at least get them to the right side of the planet.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(Auto-typed by my GH36 Matrix Keypad.)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 10 April 2016, 10:35:13
Europe Shipment Update

Overnight, Matt3o worked to provide me with an "estimated" listing of the plates, stabilizers, and switches to send to Europe.  That enables me to pull and pack a shipment for Europe.

Plates:
ANSI Univ. 46
ISO Univ. 19
Poker 36
Pure 12
ANSI 1.5x 13
ANSI 1.5x pure shift 11
ISO 1.25 29
ISO 1.5 9
ISO 1.5 pure shift 7
Samwisekoi 3
GH60 15

Stabilizer Sets:
90 Cherry PCB mount kits 6.25
45 Cherry PCB mount kits 7
100 Cherry Plate kit 6.25
55 Cherry Plate kit 7

Switches:
240 MX black

I'll get these packed and begin the search for a reasonable price to ship small, heavy plates to the UK.

FYI to all,

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(Auto-typed by my GH36 Matrix Keypad.)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mkaito on Sun, 10 April 2016, 10:39:28
Europe Shipment Update

Overnight, Matt3o worked to provide me with an "estimated" listing of the plates, stabilizers, and switches to send to Europe.  That enables me to pull and pack a shipment for Europe.

Plates:
ANSI Univ. 46
ISO Univ. 19
Poker 36
Pure 12
ANSI 1.5x 13
ANSI 1.5x pure shift 11
ISO 1.25 29
ISO 1.5 9
ISO 1.5 pure shift 7
Samwisekoi 3
GH60 15

Stabilizer Sets:
90 Cherry PCB mount kits 6.25
45 Cherry PCB mount kits 7
100 Cherry Plate kit 6.25
55 Cherry Plate kit 7

Switches:
240 MX black

I'll get these packed and begin the search for a reasonable price to ship small, heavy plates to the UK.

FYI to all,

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(Auto-typed by my GH36 Matrix Keypad.)

That's excellent news! Thanks for the hard work, guys!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 10 April 2016, 10:59:53
Salvage mode is now in turbo mode. This is excellent progress! Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sun, 10 April 2016, 12:15:39
Glad to hear of progress, thankfully i wrote my order down in a post:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg864567#msg864567

Anyone that wants to swap an ISO 1.25 or 1.5 ISO with short shift for a universal ISO, send me a message.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 10 April 2016, 14:16:22
WEEKEND UPDATE

All four proxy orders are picked and packed.
The only things not ready to go are the White switches and the DIY kits.  We were a tiny bit short on Clears, but only a tiny bit.

For Europe, we did not have enough of each item to hit Matt3o's estimates.  We were short on a couple of plates and had extras of a few others.  Oddly, we didn't have enough of the dang tiny screws Cherry now uses on PCB-mount stabilizers.  We had many hundreds, but not quite enough hundreds of them.  Anyhow, the Europe pick list was an estimate, so I'll send the exact counts to Bunnylake while I figure out how to ship 20 Kg of plates to the UK for re-distribution.

During the week I will figure out what combination of UPS and USPS will be best for the CONUS shipments.  Once I know that I will get those out of my office and on their way to the next level down in the pyramid.

One final note: if someone wants to be in charge of the DIY kits, please contact me.

Cheers to all of you!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: fl0w3n on Thu, 14 April 2016, 14:42:31
Should I have expected an email by this point from HoffmanMyster?

I've been out of the loop for the past year. 

I honestly don't really even want my order any more, but I can appreciate what everyone's gone through so I'll just keep it to not complicate things.  I'll sell it off later if I want. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 15 April 2016, 15:19:57
Should I have expected an email by this point from HoffmanMyster?

No.  I am planning to crush this over this coming weekend.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Rodgaroon on Sun, 17 April 2016, 20:29:18
True super heroes. I'm not part of this GB but it's goes without saying that GH truely appreciates everything you guys have done.

thank you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 18 April 2016, 11:42:14
Should I have expected an email by this point from HoffmanMyster?

No.  I am planning to crush this over this coming weekend.  :thumb:

Did you get the time to crush it out? Didn't get a message, that's why I'm checking.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: xtrafrood on Mon, 18 April 2016, 11:56:03
It's happenin'! It's happenin'! Great work you guys. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 18 April 2016, 16:59:51
Should I have expected an email by this point from HoffmanMyster?

No.  I am planning to crush this over this coming weekend.  :thumb:

Did you get the time to crush it out? Didn't get a message, that's why I'm checking.

I managed to get some messages out, but not all.  I'm setting up right now to crank out a few more this evening.  I'm really sorry for the delays on my end, everyone.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 18 April 2016, 17:33:25
Thank you for the reply. Great to hear that things are moving.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Mon, 18 April 2016, 18:38:11
Should I have expected an email by this point from HoffmanMyster?

Apologies are not necessary. Thanks for putting in time when you can!

No.  I am planning to crush this over this coming weekend.  :thumb:

Did you get the time to crush it out? Didn't get a message, that's why I'm checking.

I managed to get some messages out, but not all.  I'm setting up right now to crank out a few more this evening.  I'm really sorry for the delays on my end, everyone.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vivalarevolución on Tue, 19 April 2016, 19:26:33
Glad to see this continues to move forward.  Well done guys, much appreciated.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: eon on Wed, 20 April 2016, 10:39:42
I can't remember exactly what I ordered and the google doc sheet (link from the OP) is empty.

Can someone help me ?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: metafour on Sat, 23 April 2016, 03:11:08
(http://49.media.tumblr.com/6fac3bc56badcadb9f73cbd460f2f3d5/tumblr_nnz53hQI3J1qiaxzfo2_250.gif)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: madderoftime on Sun, 01 May 2016, 22:04:29
WEEKEND UPDATE

All four proxy orders are picked and packed.
The only things not ready to go are the White switches and the DIY kits.  We were a tiny bit short on Clears, but only a tiny bit.

For Europe, we did not have enough of each item to hit Matt3o's estimates.  We were short on a couple of plates and had extras of a few others.  Oddly, we didn't have enough of the dang tiny screws Cherry now uses on PCB-mount stabilizers.  We had many hundreds, but not quite enough hundreds of them.  Anyhow, the Europe pick list was an estimate, so I'll send the exact counts to Bunnylake while I figure out how to ship 20 Kg of plates to the UK for re-distribution.

During the week I will figure out what combination of UPS and USPS will be best for the CONUS shipments.  Once I know that I will get those out of my office and on their way to the next level down in the pyramid.

One final note: if someone wants to be in charge of the DIY kits, please contact me.

Cheers to all of you!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
I have 63 clears in my order that can be switched for brown, green or blue - no issue.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: WNovizar on Sun, 01 May 2016, 22:17:05
Sorry for bumping this thread, but can someone teach me on how to flash the firmware?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 02 May 2016, 12:11:14
Any updates for Euro orders? I can't get my PCB from the UK distributor until the plates are sorted :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: dgneo on Mon, 02 May 2016, 12:25:03
Sorry for bumping this thread, but can someone teach me on how to flash the firmware?

You may wanna start here: https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/tree/master/keyboard/gh60

Further help can be found in this topic here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41989.0

:thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: bupsthename on Wed, 04 May 2016, 08:47:23
I and a few other people took over unpaid orders, and I don't appear to be on the list of lists that was posted earlier. Anyone know how those are going to be dealt with?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 04 May 2016, 09:15:07
I and a few other people took over unpaid orders, and I don't appear to be on the list of lists that was posted earlier. Anyone know how those are going to be dealt with?

Do you remember whose order your took over?  Unfortunately the proxies don't have perfect information to work from, so there will be some work needed on all sides to get this all sorted out. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 May 2016, 09:17:31
Hoff ninja'd me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: bupsthename on Wed, 04 May 2016, 09:21:32
I and a few other people took over unpaid orders, and I don't appear to be on the list of lists that was posted earlier. Anyone know how those are going to be dealt with?

Do you remember whose order your took over?  Unfortunately the proxies don't have perfect information to work from, so there will be some work needed on all sides to get this all sorted out.

Edit: Yeah, I figured it out. Unfortunately, he doesn't appear to be listed on the list? Is that every order or are there others?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Qipz on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:37:45
I've got the same problem, I took over Numeros's (or something similar, my memory is a bit vague) order but since I'm in EU I expected my name not to be on the lists, but iirc his name nor mine wasnt on the EU list, I hope it'll get sorted out when they overlook the "special orders" at the end.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:52:17
The original payment deadline is reaching its third anniversary. Thank you to those that are working to salvage it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 04 May 2016, 10:56:23
I and a few other people took over unpaid orders, and I don't appear to be on the list of lists that was posted earlier. Anyone know how those are going to be dealt with?

Do you remember whose order your took over?  Unfortunately the proxies don't have perfect information to work from, so there will be some work needed on all sides to get this all sorted out.

Edit: Yeah, I figured it out. Unfortunately, he doesn't appear to be listed on the list? Is that every order or are there others?

Some of the lists floating around are US or EU specific, which might explain it?  I saw your post before the edit, and based on the information in that spreadsheet (the comments and info like that), we might be able to track down exactly which order it is.  Of course, if you do know whose it was and that name isn't anywhere to be found, that might be a bit more difficult.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: osxoep on Wed, 04 May 2016, 12:54:49
The original unpaid order sheet didn't include the usernames, iirc.

It just had the original order number and what the order was.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: bupsthename on Wed, 04 May 2016, 12:59:54
The original unpaid order sheet didn't include the usernames, iirc.

It just had the original order number and what the order was.

Yeah, it doesn't, but cross-referencing with the original list shows who it was.

Anyway, it was reddeth, a US order. Hopefully the lists posted above aren't all the US ones!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: osxoep on Wed, 04 May 2016, 14:34:39
Yeah, it doesn't, but cross-referencing with the original list shows who it was.

Anyway, it was reddeth, a US order. Hopefully the lists posted above aren't all the US ones!

do you have a link to the original list? i cant find a working one
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 May 2016, 14:41:51
I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: bupsthename on Wed, 04 May 2016, 15:26:19
I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)

I'm just afraid the people who didn't pay were removed without the people who picked up their orders ever being added to any lists. Can anyone else who's in a similar situation say if they or the person they replaced is on any of these?

Yeah, it doesn't, but cross-referencing with the original list shows who it was.

Anyway, it was reddeth, a US order. Hopefully the lists posted above aren't all the US ones!

do you have a link to the original list? i cant find a working one

This is one I found in the thread from TJ: looks like you're on there.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit#gid=0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 04 May 2016, 15:46:30
If anyone is looking to cross reference an unpaid order they picked up, here is the link to the unpaid orders post when they went up for sale:https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg947513#msg947513 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg947513#msg947513)

I just cross referenced the unpaid order I picked up with the list @bupsthename just posted above, looks like my unpaid order was originally for gmjhowe. Not sure if that helps anyone. Or if it helps me. But there you go.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 04 May 2016, 16:09:12
I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered

Same.  :thumb:

As another small note, I've already had a couple responses from people on my list saying that they sold the order but I have no information regarding *who* they sold it to.  It is very likely that we'll find a few more of these, and also likely that these things may have been sold multiple times.  Tracking all of this information down is not a trivial task, but as Ray said we do really want everyone with money in this to wind up with as much of their stuff as is possible.  So please bear with us as we work through all of the many hurdles, and let's get this whole chapter closed once and for all.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: netdevil on Sat, 07 May 2016, 17:33:23
I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)

Hi I am international and according to the spreadsheet my order includes assembly and red switches and I have also sent my own Clear to TJcaustin almost 3 years ago to have an ergo clear board.

I tried contacting the people who were in charged of my order but I mostly get ignored.

If you would please point me in the right direction I would be extremely grateful Sir.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 07 May 2016, 19:03:45


I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)

Hi I am international and according to the spreadsheet my order includes assembly and red switches and I have also sent my own Clear to TJcaustin almost 3 years ago to have an ergo clear board.

I tried contacting the people who were in charged of my order but I mostly get ignored.

If you would please point me in the right direction I would be extremely grateful Sir.

Bunnylake would be your proxy.

As far as the parts sent to TJ you would have to take that up with TJ.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: agor on Tue, 10 May 2016, 01:26:47
I also paid for two international keyboards w/ assembly, not contacted yet
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Wed, 11 May 2016, 20:23:07
hows that sorting coming along?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Thu, 12 May 2016, 18:36:53
I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)

I am from Canada and my proxy is Mashby and I have not been contacted.  Checked inbox and spam, and tried multiple PMs, but nada.  Did receive confirmation from Matt3o a while back that my order (PCB and switches) is on file, just looking for some confirmation.  Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 12 May 2016, 21:08:31
I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)

I am from Canada and my proxy is Mashby and I have not been contacted.  Checked inbox and spam, and tried multiple PMs, but nada.  Did receive confirmation from Matt3o a while back that my order (PCB and switches) is on file, just looking for some confirmation.  Thanks
I thought @mashby had contacted all his people.

Hopefully he will see this and chime in.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 13 May 2016, 16:51:49
I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)

I am from Canada and my proxy is Mashby and I have not been contacted.  Checked inbox and spam, and tried multiple PMs, but nada.  Did receive confirmation from Matt3o a while back that my order (PCB and switches) is on file, just looking for some confirmation.  Thanks
I thought @mashby had contacted all his people.

Hopefully he will see this and chime in.



SpAmRaY do you know where we are with the US orders? Are we looking to collect additional shipping funds and finish up the orders anytime soon?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 May 2016, 18:48:58
I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)

I am from Canada and my proxy is Mashby and I have not been contacted.  Checked inbox and spam, and tried multiple PMs, but nada.  Did receive confirmation from Matt3o a while back that my order (PCB and switches) is on file, just looking for some confirmation.  Thanks
I thought @mashby had contacted all his people.

Hopefully he will see this and chime in.



SpAmRaY do you know where we are with the US orders? Are we looking to collect additional shipping funds and finish up the orders anytime soon?
We are waiting on samwisekoi to send us the goods before we collect any shipping moneys.

He's pretty close to being done as far as I know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Sat, 14 May 2016, 11:37:20

I thought @mashby had contacted all his people.

Hopefully he will see this and chime in.



Yeah, I'm on that list a few pages back (Trueno86), I saw it like two weeks after his post and couldn't find anything in Email/PMs.  PM'ed right away a few times (not too many as I know you're busy) but no response, so yeah hopefully he sees it here :-D.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mickd on Sun, 15 May 2016, 07:36:43
Have international orders been contacted yet? If not, no big deal. I'm just wondering.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Sun, 15 May 2016, 07:54:17
hello to the other side
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Touch_It on Sun, 15 May 2016, 10:25:42
Show Image
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Saw this gif and had to comment.  One of my favorite shows. Silicon Valley is the best.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 15 May 2016, 23:29:40
Show Image
(http://49.media.tumblr.com/6fac3bc56badcadb9f73cbd460f2f3d5/tumblr_nnz53hQI3J1qiaxzfo2_250.gif)



Saw this gif and had to comment.  One of my favorite shows. Silicon Valley is the best.


Word. And on that note I've not received an email regarding my order. Has Hoff not gotten through his list or did I miss it some how?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 16 May 2016, 08:19:26
Has Hoff not gotten through his list

Correct.  You haven't missed anything yet, I'm just still working through my list.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kekstee on Wed, 18 May 2016, 11:54:36
As I understand the situation this salvage mode concerns CONUS orders for all existing parts.
I still have two plates (Universal + Poker) (and stabs?) somewhere which I don't particularly need anymore.
Especially if the money for further international shipping is missing anyway.

Are there options for someone to adopt those or would it just add further confusion? Donation to the cause?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 18 May 2016, 13:31:28
I can take it @kekstee and pay the shipping costs, of course.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Wed, 18 May 2016, 15:01:45
Ill take it PM and ill pay right away!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 May 2016, 15:08:56
I would discourage anyone from buying a GH60 order at this point.


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: thegagne on Wed, 18 May 2016, 15:44:13
Any volunteers for assembly for US orders? My proxy is Spamray if that makes any difference.

Do we know if the shipments have been mailed to proxies yet? Last I saw it sounded like things were close to on their way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 18 May 2016, 15:48:06
Do we know if the shipments have been mailed to proxies yet?

No shipments to us yet.  I'm sure there will be a post in here when we start to receive them.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:06:54
will this be at my door in time for that lustro case
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kekstee on Wed, 18 May 2016, 19:00:03
@Prelim: I thought about giving it to an existing US order, but only if the organiser could even deal with something like that.

I would discourage anyone from buying a GH60 order at this point.
Thanks. I'll just wait and see what will happen for now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jabar on Wed, 18 May 2016, 21:38:33
I was contacted a few months ago regarding paying more for shipping but nothing since.

e: looks like samwisekoi is almost done?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 19 May 2016, 12:51:34
Any updated news? its been over a month since anything has since been communicated.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 19 May 2016, 14:41:09
Any volunteers for assembly for US orders? My proxy is Spamray if that makes any difference.

Do we know if the shipments have been mailed to proxies yet? Last I saw it sounded like things were close to on their way.
I would be up for building some.  I only ask for help on shipping.  If there are a few that can come in a single package that would help and then once assembled I will hit up the owners of the board for shipping info and help on payment. 

Sent from my LG-H811 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: chel- on Thu, 19 May 2016, 17:00:18
I'm not active on these forums any more and I gave up reading this thread a long time ago, but I did just respond to an email from spamray that I got in March.  Have shipping costs been collected yet?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 19 May 2016, 17:22:39
I'm not active on these forums any more and I gave up reading this thread a long time ago, but I did just respond to an email from spamray that I got in March.  Have shipping costs been collected yet?

Not yet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sun, 22 May 2016, 04:32:51
What the...
What's with the orders from Europe?
Because I ordered and payed quite a few PCBs and parts and still have a like 8 empty aluminum cases which I bought for this PCBs O.o
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 22 May 2016, 08:48:10
What the...
What's with the orders from Europe?
Because I ordered and payed quite a few PCBs and parts and still have a like 8 empty aluminum cases which I bought for this PCBs O.o

EU orders will be handled by Bunnylake if I have understood stuff correctly. We all have to pay for shipping again. You can see most information in the first post, and it will be updated when there is relevant information available.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mkaito on Sun, 22 May 2016, 09:49:11
What the...
What's with the orders from Europe?
Because I ordered and payed quite a few PCBs and parts and still have a like 8 empty aluminum cases which I bought for this PCBs O.o

EU orders will be handled by Bunnylake if I have understood stuff correctly. We all have to pay for shipping again. You can see most information in the first post, and it will be updated when there is relevant information available.

Actually, I asked Bunny, but I never got him to confirm or deny that EU orders have to pay for shipping and/or assembly now. He did say that he was procuring new assembly gear and that he would provide such a service, so I'm assuming that we'd have to pay for that at least. I might be completely wrong on all accounts, though.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 23 May 2016, 11:27:02
Im not even fussed about my plates anymore, i just want my order but i've been told to wait until the plates arrive, whenever that might be (this is 2 months ago). Are the current group buy volunteers talking and has there been any progress?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Tue, 24 May 2016, 13:23:07
hows that sorting coming along?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 24 May 2016, 14:04:48
ayyyyy
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: precarious on Sat, 04 June 2016, 07:10:48
since i ordered this three years ago, is there a 60% keyboard that is functionally superior to this one that i can actually buy?  kind of weird i've been waiting to own a 60% keyboard with a short right shift and function key to the right of it for more than three years now, but i kind of want to just get it over with already, to be honest.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sat, 04 June 2016, 07:16:52
thanks for getting our hopes up! Im just going to buy a board off tech keys.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 04 June 2016, 07:33:52
since i ordered this three years ago, is there a 60% keyboard that is functionally superior to this one that i can actually buy?  kind of weird i've been waiting to own a 60% keyboard with a short right shift and function key to the right of it for more than three years now, but i kind of want to just get it over with already, to be honest.

Well, you could get a GH60 PCB from techkeys and buy the rest elsewhere (if you wait long enough you might even be able to buy all parts from them).
You could also (if you live in EU this has the most advantages) get a GH60 kit form falbatech in Poland. Another possibility is the KC60 (~$3 more for GH60 Satan) kit from Aliexpress.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 04 June 2016, 15:00:32
since i ordered this three years ago, is there a 60% keyboard that is functionally superior to this one that i can actually buy?  kind of weird i've been waiting to own a 60% keyboard with a short right shift and function key to the right of it for more than three years now, but i kind of want to just get it over with already, to be honest.

Satan GH60, **** is great, PCB like 30-40$ on ebay, same store sells cheap cases and plates. easy to program, and even has back lighting in the right position.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 04 June 2016, 15:17:26
I just realized someone else bought my gh60 for me...

**** this **** I'm out
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 07 June 2016, 01:49:19
What the...
What's with the orders from Europe?
Because I ordered and payed quite a few PCBs and parts and still have a like 8 empty aluminum cases which I bought for this PCBs O.o

EU orders will be handled by Bunnylake if I have understood stuff correctly. We all have to pay for shipping again. You can see most information in the first post, and it will be updated when there is relevant information available.

Actually, I asked Bunny, but I never got him to confirm or deny that EU orders have to pay for shipping and/or assembly now. He did say that he was procuring new assembly gear and that he would provide such a service, so I'm assuming that we'd have to pay for that at least. I might be completely wrong on all accounts, though.

right guys i know just about as much as you

this is what i know

i have the pcbs and some of the switches on hand

when i first got these i contacted people on the spreadsheet i was given of orders to fulfill and shipped a ton of them out for people that wanted just that part of their order

recently (last few months) when people have contacted me for that, i have said no, as im waiting on the rest of the stuff from the states, because i dont wanna be going down to the post office and packing 1 thing every other day, it means i need to have everything out, and constantly taking time out of my day i dont have and pay for for fuel and parking etc, i just wanna sit and crank it out all at once

i said this under the assumption that i would have the plates, remaining switches and stabs shortly, because thats how this gb was progressing

as for shipping money, we have some left but not enough to cover it, so some people will be asked to pay for shipping again if they want their order

im just donating my time to this buy im no more in to loop than anyone else on this buy

when i stepped in and agreed to do this, my son wasnt born, and i lived in a different house and was under the impression this would be finished 8-9 months ago

please remember im shipping as much as all the US proxies combined, i dont want this dragged out, and i dont want all this stuff in my house, its taking up a ton of room that i really dont have

the sooner this is done the better as far as im concerned
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 08 June 2016, 13:13:38
When do we estimate the completion of items 4 and 5 under the What's the Plan section in the first post? Maybe I missed something but it seems like all progress has stopped on this again with very little transparency on what's going on.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 June 2016, 13:40:39
When do we estimate the completion of items 4 and 5 under the What's the Plan section in the first post? Maybe I missed something but it seems like all progress has stopped on this again with very little transparency on what's going on.

As far as I know we proxies are just waiting on samwisekoi. He would have to speak to what his next step is.

There hasn't been anything communicated to us in ~6 weeks now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Wed, 08 June 2016, 13:48:36
His last post said something about "Proxy boxes should be shipped next week" but at the same time, the counting scale is $300 a pop (which is a chunk to ask anyone to drop).

**** happens and life gets in the way. I've been guilty of it (am right now in fact). Any chance someone can poke him and just ask for an update?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 June 2016, 14:24:30
His last post said something about "Proxy boxes should be shipped next week" but at the same time, the counting scale is $300 a pop (which is a chunk to ask anyone to drop).

**** happens and life gets in the way. I've been guilty of it (am right now in fact). Any chance someone can poke him and just ask for an update?

I sent him a PM. Will update when I know more.

Edit: maybe expect a post from the man himself soon  8)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Fri, 10 June 2016, 16:42:08
Selling my order - PCB, 63x red switches + stabilizers.  PM if interested.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: rand77 on Mon, 13 June 2016, 20:24:56
Don't mean to jump the gun here, but I pulled the trigger on a Falbatech GH60 and here she is.   

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 15 June 2016, 08:48:15
I hope this road ends soon lol.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rKaq7sjg6Yo/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 16 June 2016, 01:37:52
What's the ETA on an update?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 16 June 2016, 06:14:03
What's the ETA on an update?
Whenever samwisekoi can get the next step figured out he's supposed to update here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: heeliqin on Fri, 17 June 2016, 04:14:37
The shipping list is not my name, I would like to know where my order to go
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sun, 19 June 2016, 05:21:50
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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Viett on Thu, 23 June 2016, 08:06:01
Is there a reason my proxy (HoffmanMyster) has not sent an invoice? Is he waiting on something? It's been 4 months since proxies were announced and I'm not quite sure what is going on.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 23 June 2016, 08:09:37
Is there a reason my proxy (HoffmanMyster) has not sent an invoice? Is he waiting on something? It's been 4 months since proxies were announced and I'm not quite sure what is going on.

We aren't invoicing for shipping until we have parts to ship.

The emails we sent out explained this.

But in our defense we expected to have parts not long after we sent the initial emails out but we have not received them yet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Viett on Thu, 23 June 2016, 08:13:09
Ok, that makes sense. I have not received an initial email either, but I'm guessing he's waiting on the parts before sending those out?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 23 June 2016, 08:30:18
Ok, that makes sense. I have not received an initial email either, but I'm guessing he's waiting on the parts before sending those out?
No that should have been sent. I know he was behind so I guess he never got around to finishing or maybe the email didn't go through for some reason.

Basically it was confirming shipping address and order details and also explaining our plan going forward.

Right now we are waiting for @samwisekoi to figure out the best way to get all the parts to us (plates are very heavy in bulk) so we can attempt to bring this buy some closure.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 25 June 2016, 07:44:00
He has gone very quiet, its been quite considerable time since any updates or progress. Honestly you can keep the my plates I just want my PCB!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Sat, 25 June 2016, 12:46:12
He has gone very quiet, its been quite considerable time since any updates or progress. Honestly you can keep the my plates I just want my PCB!!

You had the chance didn't you? There's no point getting angry over ones own stupidity, at least out loud anyway.

o **** waddup.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 25 June 2016, 19:46:36
He has gone very quiet, its been quite considerable time since any updates or progress. Honestly you can keep the my plates I just want my PCB!!

You had the chance didn't you? There's no point getting angry over ones own stupidity, at least out loud anyway.

o **** waddup.

(http://i.imgur.com/Pnv3zfo.png)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 27 June 2016, 13:32:10
Ok, that makes sense. I have not received an initial email either, but I'm guessing he's waiting on the parts before sending those out?
No that should have been sent. I know he was behind so I guess he never got around to finishing or maybe the email didn't go through for some reason.

Yep, that's correct.  I haven't finished sending mine yet.  To be entirely honest, I just wasn't rushing since I knew there would still be a substantial delay.  I'm about half way through my emails.  I'll get them sent out, no need to worry.  :thumb:

Apologies for the confusion and apparent desertion of the project.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 01 July 2016, 13:27:59
Ok, that makes sense. I have not received an initial email either, but I'm guessing he's waiting on the parts before sending those out?
No that should have been sent. I know he was behind so I guess he never got around to finishing or maybe the email didn't go through for some reason.

Basically it was confirming shipping address and order details and also explaining our plan going forward.

Right now we are waiting for @samwisekoi to figure out the best way to get all the parts to us (plates are very heavy in bulk) so we can attempt to bring this buy some closure.


At this point has sam provided any updates? We've been stalled for several months at this point. If it costs money to ship the plates to the final proxies let's just figure out the cost and get this done. I'll gladly donate funds to help complete this, but I need some direction from the organizers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 July 2016, 13:34:56
Ok, that makes sense. I have not received an initial email either, but I'm guessing he's waiting on the parts before sending those out?
No that should have been sent. I know he was behind so I guess he never got around to finishing or maybe the email didn't go through for some reason.

Basically it was confirming shipping address and order details and also explaining our plan going forward.

Right now we are waiting for @samwisekoi to figure out the best way to get all the parts to us (plates are very heavy in bulk) so we can attempt to bring this buy some closure.


At this point has sam provided any updates? We've been stalled for several months at this point. If it costs money to ship the plates to the final proxies let's just figure out the cost and get this done. I'll gladly donate funds to help complete this, but I need some direction from the organizers.

I PM'd a week ago but I've got no new info. :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 01 July 2016, 13:50:52
 I just sent Sam a PM, hoping for an update so we can get this started again.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: funkymeeba on Sat, 02 July 2016, 11:48:18
I would like to congratulate this group buy on being outpaced by both a 7bit group buy AND sprit's acrylic case group buy.

Unachievement unlocked.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 03 July 2016, 14:44:45
So it looks like Sam hasn't been active on GH since June 10th. Does anyone else have an alternate way to reach out to him?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Pieminister on Sun, 03 July 2016, 14:55:08
So it looks like Sam hasn't been active on GH since June 10th. Does anyone else have an alternate way to reach out to him?

At this point this group buy has to be cursed, right? Ive been following it with fascination. I would love to see a timeline of all the things that have gone not at planned to far.  Good luck to everyone involved!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 10 July 2016, 09:02:51
Going to keep this going, do any of the proxies have an alternative way to contact Sam? If not I know iMav has a contact number.

Edit: I just went ahead and reached out to iMav, we'll see if we can jump start this GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 10 July 2016, 09:42:17
Going to keep this going, do any of the proxies have an alternative way to contact Sam? If not I know iMav has a contact number.

Edit: I just went ahead and reached out to iMav, we'll see if we can jump start this GB.

I haven't heard anything for some time, my last PM went unanswered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jchan94 on Mon, 11 July 2016, 00:19:31
I hope this road ends soon lol.

Show Image
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rKaq7sjg6Yo/maxresdefault.jpg)


TBH, this should be photo for all GBs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: madderoftime on Mon, 11 July 2016, 13:10:05

I haven't heard anything for some time

Just dropping in to see if this stalling engine had ever been rebuilt, recycled or shot. Jury still out. K
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 12 July 2016, 13:54:39
Going to keep this going, do any of the proxies have an alternative way to contact Sam? If not I know iMav has a contact number.

Edit: I just went ahead and reached out to iMav, we'll see if we can jump start this GB.

I haven't heard anything for some time, my last PM went unanswered.

Well ****... Same boat. Still haven't heard back from iMav. I guess we'll just keep waiting...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 20 July 2016, 20:13:29
Bump. Yep that's right, I'm bumping a GB thread. This **** needs to get sorted out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 20 July 2016, 21:36:41
Bump. Yep that's right, I'm bumping a GB thread. This **** needs to get sorted out.
At this point I'm not sure what to think anymore.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 20 July 2016, 22:08:23
I wonder if the texan ants got sam...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: agor on Thu, 21 July 2016, 04:10:19
 :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 21 July 2016, 10:39:54
Bump. Yep that's right, I'm bumping a GB thread. This **** needs to get sorted out.
At this point I'm not sure what to think anymore.

I'm thinking I should have also offered to be a proxy to help sort and ship. But it still wouldn't have mattered much considering our current status. We need to figure out if Sam's ok as he hasn't been online in 1 1/2 months. If anyone has a contact (email, phone) and can reach out please do.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 21 July 2016, 13:14:12
I was able to get a contact for Sam. So I will be reaching out to him to touch base and see where we're at.

Thanks everyone
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 July 2016, 13:14:39
@wildcard good to hear  :thumb:

Just an FYI his twitter is active.  8)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jabar on Mon, 25 July 2016, 21:06:08
bump still nothing
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Tue, 26 July 2016, 12:47:11
I'd love to just sell my orders.  Unfortunately though, my most expensive order was one I took over after initial payments were done.  These 'taken over' orders have not been accounted for though.

Are there any solutions concerning:

1.  The orders that were taken over by others
2.  I don't want this anymore, but I have to pay shipping for it anyways

??

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 26 July 2016, 12:56:27
I'd love to just sell my orders.  Unfortunately though, my most expensive order was one I took over after initial payments were done.  These 'taken over' orders have not been accounted for though.

Are there any solutions concerning:

1.  The orders that were taken over by others
2.  I don't want this anymore, but I have to pay shipping for it anyways

??



The best answer I can give at this point is if there ends up being extras or leftovers we can do our best to fulfill any of the orders we didn't have when deciding what parts we needed. I know for a fact a few members who have disappeared have orders and we've got to figure out what to do with those if we can't contact those members.

And if people just want to forget about it and move on then we can sell any extras or leftovers ourselves and use those funds to first cover any extra costs we incur proxying and forward the rest to iMav to help with site costs.

If anyone wants to sell their own order then they would need to wait until they receive it to do so.

But as it stands this is dead in the water until parts get moving again.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 28 July 2016, 16:44:01
Good news,

I was able to speak with Samwisekoi about a half hour ago and he updated me that the SMD presoldered kits were broken up into 5 separate shipments which will be going out soon to the proxies. Due to the heavy weight of the plates, extra effort was made in insuring that their packaging was appropriate.

There has been a challenge in shipping the DIY kits to the proxies due to the quantity of small static sensitive SMD components. Static bags and other packaging materials have been ordered and this effort is nearing completion. It sounds like these will be shipped separately.

We're nearing the final stretch everyone, hopefully more to come soon!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 July 2016, 16:46:41
Good news,

I was able to speak with Samwisekoi about a half hour ago and he updated me that the SMD presoldered kits were broken up into 5 separate shipments which will be going out soon to the proxies. Due to the heavy weight of the plates, extra effort was made in insuring that their packaging was appropriate.

There has been a challenge in shipping the DIY kits to the proxies due to the quantity of small static sensitive SMD components. Static bags and other packaging materials have been ordered and this effort is nearing completion. It sounds like these will be shipped separately.

We're nearing the final stretch everyone, hopefully more to come soon!

Thanks for the update, Wildcard!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 28 July 2016, 16:55:04
Now if I can just find all of those vintage cherry blacks/blues in my moving boxes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 July 2016, 14:05:02
Just got an email from the man himself things should be moving very soon. :eek: :spam:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glissant on Fri, 29 July 2016, 14:32:41
(http://i.imgur.com/G5NiTxP.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 29 July 2016, 15:36:07
Also saw this

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160729/b30976f0b57fe4bec946a6b93618f1d9.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 29 July 2016, 15:36:37
Greetings all!  I am not dead.  I was swept away, and for that I extend my sincere apologies.

All shipments for the US proxies are waiting for UPS pickup.  In case you want to watch them, here are the tracking numbers:

More
Jeez. What was I thinking?  Let's dox four people I like today.  DELETED.


The big hold-up was getting industrial-strength, double-walled nesting boxes to handle the weight of the plates safely.  Wildcard's reminder call came just after I had found some at an industrial box supply.  (Thank you sir!)

Anyhow, these are all good to go, and will now fall onto the next layer of proxies.

(I am also going to try to get the Euro boxes to for BunnyLake shipped today or Monday.)

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 29 July 2016, 15:40:31
p.s.  Remember, I did not receive enough White or Clear switches.  I shipped all that I had to the proxies.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: billnye on Fri, 29 July 2016, 15:54:13
I sent a pm to mashby over a month ago and didn't get a reply. It looks like he hasn't been on the forum since June 20. Do I need to reach out to someone else to confirm my shipping address?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 July 2016, 17:32:14
I sent a pm to mashby over a month ago and didn't get a reply. It looks like he hasn't been on the forum since June 20. Do I need to reach out to someone else to confirm my shipping address?
If he's your proxy just pm him again.

I haven't heard from @mashby but maybe @samwisekoi has?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 29 July 2016, 18:15:51
Mashby never responded to my last PM, i had him confirm he had the right address but he still had the wrong address

:(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 30 July 2016, 18:31:25
For those needing address changes we proxies will be invoicing everyone for shipping so that will be your chance for any final changes.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 05 August 2016, 10:51:00
My wife just texted me and said I received 2 very heavy boxes... :eek: :spam:

itshappening.gif
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 05 August 2016, 10:55:38
My wife just texted me and said I received 2 very heavy boxes... :eek: :spam:

itshappening.gif

:eek:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 05 August 2016, 12:52:44
:o indeed
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 05 August 2016, 14:53:47
Oooooh Spamray is my proxy. I knew that if I ordered a GH60 from techkeys my group buy GH60s would arrive sooner!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 05 August 2016, 19:23:36
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/bb7061d3f358ad0700a1e7a4764e5447.jpg)

It looks like it barely made it but I have received boxes from @samwisekoi

According to my scale that's >60lbs of GH60 stuffs :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 05 August 2016, 22:02:56
oh. okay nice
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 06 August 2016, 15:55:28
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160806/b2751f4d1d19cb71daddf16219b0110b.jpg)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160806/51ef14cba4813e7e2bf711f3803357a7.jpg)

 :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vorn on Sun, 07 August 2016, 09:23:20
WOOP WOOP!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 August 2016, 10:15:10
I've been out of town and busy, but here's a teaser shot as proof.  :)  Will open and begin work as I have time.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8841/28818560866_caf474f796_h.jpg)
GH60 (https://flic.kr/p/KUAE85) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99522542@N03/), on Flickr


Thank you for all your hard work samwisekoi!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 08 August 2016, 10:21:38
@hoffmanmyster awesome!

I've managed to ship one order so far but it was easy just one PCB :P

For those interested I'm planning on getting more orders packaged up throughout the week and will try and contact those with packages ready to go around Thursday and will try and get things moving Saturday as that's the only day I can personally take things to the post office. This could change but is my current game plan.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 08 August 2016, 11:10:04
Thank you very much for the hard work, samwisekoi. And also a great big thank you to all the proxies and everybody putting in time to get this resolved.
If anybody in europe needs their GH60 boards assembled I can do that as long as you cover shipping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 August 2016, 11:26:46
I just texted mashby asking how he's doing and if he received his shipment from samwisekoi.  No shipment received, and work has been kicking his ass.  I won't speak for him as far as his expected timeline for GH60 things, but he is alive and well, if incredibly swamped.

I haven't heard from @mashby but maybe @samwisekoi has?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Mon, 08 August 2016, 11:52:08
Any word on European shipments, is samwise dealing with that part?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: thegagne on Mon, 08 August 2016, 20:29:12
Honestly no idea what I'm doing with mine when it comes... Gotta find someone to borrow a bunch of kit from to get the solder job done, find/make a case for it, etc. My original plan was to try to pull and reuse some mx Browns off a dead g80 I have laying around but not sure if that will work or if I can use those caps or if I'm going to have to sink more time and money into this.

3 years later not sure I have the time or desire to get it done... Maybe when it arrives I will figure it out.

A long painful initiation into the cult of GH.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 08 August 2016, 20:57:00
Any word on European shipments, is samwise dealing with that part?

(I am also going to try to get the Euro boxes to for BunnyLake shipped today or Monday.)

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 09 August 2016, 17:23:25
wow I can't ****ing believe this is actually happening wtf
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 11 August 2016, 22:17:22
Sent out some more invoices for shipping.

Packed 7 orders, Shipped 1

:spam:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 12 August 2016, 13:04:05
[WTB] GH60 Shipping Invoice
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 12 August 2016, 23:02:07
YAY~! finally

Btw. If anybody is interested in taking some GH60s off of me, send me a pm.
I will go through them after I get them to see what plates I got (been a long time since I ordered...)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 13 August 2016, 02:20:04
gnubag, you got 1 ANSI universal and 3 Poker according to the excel sheet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 13 August 2016, 15:23:32
It's not much but it's a start 4 more orders shipped today :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tricheboars on Mon, 15 August 2016, 12:30:29
is this really happening?  i remember jumping on this buy a few years ago. hoping i get my two gh60s soon!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 15 August 2016, 12:39:49
Sam's been in contact with me, we just need to sort a count of remaining EU parts and he will get em.out to me so then I can get em out to you guys
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: zoidbergslo on Tue, 16 August 2016, 09:56:14
Nice to hear that. Thanks to all involved.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: xavierblak on Tue, 16 August 2016, 16:49:39
Whoa a day 3 years in the making. I got my GH60s today! Thanks spamray and all those who helped in-between. I didn't think I'd ever see these.

 (http://i.imgur.com/GuNa3lE.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 16 August 2016, 17:58:47
Whoa a day 3 years in the making. I got my GH60s today! Thanks spamray and all those who helped in-between. I didn't think I'd ever see these.

 
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/GuNa3lE.jpg)


Was the packaging adequate?

Trying to do this on the cheap while getting the job done.

There were also 4 other orders delivered this week. :D :spam:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: xavierblak on Tue, 16 August 2016, 20:16:41
Was the packaging adequate?

Trying to do this on the cheap while getting the job done.

There were also 4 other orders delivered this week. :D :spam:

Yes it made it here with out any damage. I'd guess as long as you wrap up the pcbs and plates the way you did you should be fine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Fri, 19 August 2016, 11:56:40
SO HYPED FOR AN INVOICE. lol.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Mikelittoris on Fri, 19 August 2016, 20:13:44
Really hyped for my euro board. Sounds like stuffs are moving soon™ I guess we'll get an update once Bunnylake has the parts.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 21 August 2016, 01:43:09
got mine on monday or something i'm never posting in this thread again thanks for the pcb suckers
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 21 August 2016, 08:18:01
Got 2 more out yesterday.

Hopefully starting this week I can get a few out every couple days since my wife should be able to ship for me now that the kids are back in school.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Sun, 21 August 2016, 23:33:20
Whoa a day 3 years in the making. I got my GH60s today! Thanks spamray and all those who helped in-between. I didn't think I'd ever see these.

 
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/GuNa3lE.jpg)


OMG congrats.  Hoping mashby is still around and has time to move some of the boards out! 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pmck on Mon, 22 August 2016, 07:51:32
Ugh I want one so badly
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 22 August 2016, 12:50:49
Got 1 US order on the way today and 2 Canadian orders. :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: n0rvig on Wed, 24 August 2016, 01:31:30
Woot! This is amazing! Even Canadian orders are shipping! Most tenacious GB rescue team ever.

Is there a spreadsheet with the proxies? And who we should contact to update shipping addresses?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 24 August 2016, 06:47:28
Woot! This is amazing! Even Canadian orders are shipping! Most tenacious GB rescue team ever.

Is there a spreadsheet with the proxies? And who we should contact to update shipping addresses?

Whoever your proxy is will have to invoice you for shipping costs before they ship so that will be your opportunity to make sure shipping information is correct.

There is a list of who each proxy has in the last few pages I'm on my phone or I'd try and find it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Wed, 24 August 2016, 11:17:34
Has anyone heard from Mashby recently? He got me my original notice, but it doesn't look like he's been active in over a month here...

I have no doubt he'll hold up his side of the bargan, just checking (It's been 3 years, and I wanna get building on these boards)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 24 August 2016, 11:19:46
Has anyone heard from Mashby recently? He got me my original notice, but it doesn't look like he's been active in over a month here...

I have no doubt he'll hold up his side of the bargan, just checking (It's been 3 years, and I wanna get building on these boards)


I just texted mashby asking how he's doing and if he received his shipment from samwisekoi.  No shipment received, and work has been kicking his ass.  I won't speak for him as far as his expected timeline for GH60 things, but he is alive and well, if incredibly swamped.

I haven't heard from @mashby but maybe @samwisekoi has?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 26 August 2016, 13:35:26
Hey! I'm here.

Sorry for being AFK, but 2016 is one of the most difficult years I've had in a long time. Everything is "fine", just seems to be one thing after another, the flood in Louisiana being the latest. Both parents lost their homes and vehicles and it's been a bit crazy to say the least. Didn't mean to spend so much time away,  I've just had to focus on real life.

I'm still on standby for receiving my portion of the proxy. Just got word from Samwisekoi that the address he used was incorrect -- I don't know why yet -- and they were returned to him. I've given him my addresses and I'll pay for the re-shipping to get things back on track.

Once I have the boards in hand, I will get back to the list and confirm everyone again. With everything else on my plate, I figured this could wait until I had the items ready to ship and then just do it in one big batch.

Thanks for everyone's continued patience.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Fri, 26 August 2016, 14:34:31
Hey! I'm here.

Sorry for being AFK, but 2016 is one of the most difficult years I've had in a long time. Everything is "fine", just seems to be one thing after another, the flood in Louisiana being the latest. Both parents lost their homes and vehicles and it's been a bit crazy to say the least. Didn't mean to spend so much time away,  I've just had to focus on real life.

I'm still on standby for receiving my portion of the proxy. Just got word from Samwisekoi that the address he used was incorrect -- I don't know why yet -- and they were returned to him. I've given him my addresses and I'll pay for the re-shipping to get things back on track.

Once I have the boards in hand, I will get back to the list and confirm everyone again. With everything else on my plate, I figured this could wait until I had the items ready to ship and then just do it in one big batch.

Thanks for everyone's continued patience.

Thanks for responding! Best of luck with the homes and vehicles and everything else. :(

That really sucks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 28 August 2016, 12:18:10
5 orders waiting to be shipped next post office trip and 7 more packed with invoices sent out

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: miscsubbin on Mon, 29 August 2016, 09:11:58
I still have not received an email / message from HoffmanMyster. Should I keep waiting or is there something I need to do?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 29 August 2016, 09:18:22
I still have not received an email / message from HoffmanMyster. Should I keep waiting or is there something I need to do?

All of the people on my list should hang tight for another week or so.  I'm taking care of some personal things at the moment, then will dedicate a lot more time to this once I get that sorted.  It's not ideal, but please bear with me just a little while longer.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: miscsubbin on Mon, 29 August 2016, 09:55:23
I still have not received an email / message from HoffmanMyster. Should I keep waiting or is there something I need to do?

All of the people on my list should hang tight for another week or so.  I'm taking care of some personal things at the moment, then will dedicate a lot more time to this once I get that sorted.  It's not ideal, but please bear with me just a little while longer.  :thumb:

That's fine, it's just tough to keep up to date with this thread for all these years.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 29 August 2016, 10:10:23
I still have not received an email / message from HoffmanMyster. Should I keep waiting or is there something I need to do?

All of the people on my list should hang tight for another week or so.  I'm taking care of some personal things at the moment, then will dedicate a lot more time to this once I get that sorted.  It's not ideal, but please bear with me just a little while longer.  :thumb:

That's fine, it's just tough to keep up to date with this thread for all these years.

Oh I hear ya.  I'm looking forward to putting this one behind us once and for all.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 29 August 2016, 17:09:47
Ray sure can package a box. I don't think customs wanted to even bother trying to open it its packed so well. lmao...

FINALLY AFTER YEARS OF WAITING IT HAS ARRIVED!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 August 2016, 17:14:53
Ray sure can package a box. I don't think customs wanted to even bother trying to open it its packed so well. lmao...

FINALLY AFTER YEARS OF WAITING IT HAS ARRIVED!

Glad it made it safely!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: rtos on Mon, 29 August 2016, 19:37:29
I have just received an invoice from SpamRay for 1 GH60 PCB, 1 Poker Plate and 63 MX Brown switches.  If anyone is interested in a deal on these, and wishes to take over this order, please send me a PM, as I don't have any use for these any more.  Any reasonable offer will be accepted.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 29 August 2016, 19:42:28
I have just received an invoice from SpamRay for 1 GH60 PCB, 1 Poker Plate and 63 MX Brown switches.  If anyone is interested in a deal on these, and wishes to take over this order, please send me a PM, as I don't have any use for these any more.  Any reasonable offer will be accepted.

Just to be clear the invoice I sent is only for shipping and we are shipping these through PayPal so whoever this goes to will need to pay me for the shipping directly.

And it's packed and ready to go so I'd prefer to get it in the mail soon so it's out of the way.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: chel- on Wed, 31 August 2016, 08:31:08
Received mine last week. Thanks to all involved.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 31 August 2016, 23:52:39
Woot, got mine today. Thank you, Ray!
This has to be the longest successful group buy.


Now I just need to figure out what I want to do with it.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 01 September 2016, 20:31:27
3 more dropped off this evening
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 02 September 2016, 15:09:02
For those of you on my proxy list, I have tracking information. It's scheduled to arrive next Thursday, September 8th.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Sat, 03 September 2016, 04:44:03
Any updates on EU shipments?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: regack on Mon, 05 September 2016, 21:11:23
For those of you on my proxy list, I have tracking information. It's scheduled to arrive next Thursday, September 8th.

Thanks for the update Mashby.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Tue, 06 September 2016, 00:57:51
I got flooded out in BR, got invoice a few days ago (more like a week now), ready to click "go," but need address change... lol, after all this time, i have to move *right* when the GH60s start shipping. (i don't actually know my new address at this minute, but i can go find it when i get a reply from my shipper handler... SpAmRaY?)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy - how is the progress on GH75?
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 06 September 2016, 05:37:13
I've just dug up some older posts, and found my dream layout - GH75.

Is there any progress or news about the GH75 and its casing options?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 06 September 2016, 06:39:44
I got flooded out in BR, got invoice a few days ago (more like a week now), ready to click "go," but need address change... lol, after all this time, i have to move *right* when the GH60s start shipping. (i don't actually know my new address at this minute, but i can go find it when i get a reply from my shipper handler... SpAmRaY?)

Sorry to hear about the flooding.

Just change your shipping address with PayPal, I'll be shipping to whatever address is on file with PayPal.


Also a PM or email would be recommended in case I miss a post in this thread for anyone with any issues.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jabar on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:28:31
Paid the shipping invoice today, Spamray.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 07 September 2016, 16:35:51
Received my package yesterday, thanks Ray! And thanks to everyone who is working to drag this thing over the finish line. :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 07 September 2016, 22:12:29
Paid the shipping invoice today, Spamray.

Yours is on the way. :thumb:

 
Received my package yesterday, thanks Ray! And thanks to everyone who is working to drag this thing over the finish line. :thumb:

Glad it made it! :spam:


Heads up to others I'm slowly packing what I have but it has been busy around here lately.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: RickyJ on Fri, 09 September 2016, 00:01:56
Mine arrived today, packaged very well by Ray!  Big thanks to all that helped organize this and resurrect it! I can't wait to get going on one! :thumb:

(http://i.imgur.com/1IsNv6p.png)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 12 September 2016, 10:56:31
I'm a little slow to get going, but I have one order shipped out as of today. 

There are a lot of parts involved in this, so all I can say at this point is that samwisekoi is a saint for sorting everything and tidying it all up for us proxies.  I knew how many orders (and PCBs, plates, switches, etc) I would be shipping, but opening the boxes and seeing it all in front of me was very overwhelming.  I hope that no one ever attempts a group buy of this scale again.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kinruan on Wed, 14 September 2016, 13:16:43
has this been shipped yet? i never received my set
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Index on Wed, 14 September 2016, 13:18:22
I totally forgot about this groupbuy and I apologies for not responding earlier. I just read and replied mashby's confirmation email from Mar 23. The order and shipping information is correct. I am wondering if I am too late (responding with a confirmation) to get my order. If that's the case, completely understand. Otherwise, I am ready to pay for shipping.

Again, apologies.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 14 September 2016, 13:39:09
has this been shipped yet? i never received my set

I sent you a PM.

For everyone else I am around halfway done, I have not touched anything in the last week due to everyone in our household being ill. My shipping strategy has been shipping the simplest orders first so if you have a big order expect to be near the end.

For those who have DIY Kits those have not yet been shipped to us from @samwisekoi it is my understanding he was still working on getting all the small bits and pieces split into manageable bites to send to us proxies.

Also just in the way of information for those who ordered mx gray switches I only have linear grays and no tactile grays, I am not sure what the other proxies received and have not heard back from @samwisekoi as to if there were any tactile grays to begin with.

And just another FYI I know it has been discussed somewhere but for anyone who ordered costar stabilizers those were never sourced so they are not available.

Again I remind everyone those of us doing the shipping are simply trying to get everyone as correct an order as is possible to bring this buy to as best a resolution as there can be.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 14 September 2016, 13:56:45
As stated before, I am willing to build several of these for those that ordered fully built boards.  I am even willing to cover some of the shipping if it helps.   :thumb:
I would prefer the conus boards, but if some for other parts of the world are still here in the US that need to be assembled, I can build and ship if needed and would just invoice the exact shipping costs. 

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: oluf on Wed, 14 September 2016, 21:04:04
...
Also just in the way of information for those who ordered mx gray switches I only have linear grays and no tactile grays, I am not sure what the other proxies received and have not heard back from @samwisekoi as to if there were any tactile grays to begin with.
...

I ordered tactile greys, but I am fine with linear.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 15 September 2016, 00:36:34
So I built mine, figured out the hodge-podge of Bash on Windows 10, and got a basic Poker layout flashed on to test with (using 1.5x mods, so only one key short). Everything was working in Aquakeytest except the Enter key was stuck on.  My multimeter showed the switch as closed, but inside I could see it working. I swapped the spring/slider/top with the next key and it stayed on the Enter key. I removed the switch base, the switch works outside of the board, and the PCB contacts are shorted out.  Turns out that the screw for the Cherry PCB-mounted stab for the Enter key was shorting out a couple pads for the ISO Enter.  I didn't even think about it when I put the screw in, like an idiot.

Anyways, a note for anyone else that may be using Cherry PCB-mount stabs: Insulate that screw!!!

(http://i.imgur.com/gs4gWsr.png)

edit:  I can also confirm that Hasu's TMK firmware for basic Poker layout works with NKRO and Caps led (if I had one, but my logic probe says it's good).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 15 September 2016, 08:46:47
Yeah, those are NOT screw holes!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Thu, 15 September 2016, 10:50:11
that looks like you're sticking screws through your Vias on the board. Highly suggest you don't do that.

Unless you're not. I haven't seen one of the Rev C boards yet (still got my rev A looking for a plate though :) )
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 15 September 2016, 15:26:34
has this been shipped yet? i never received my set

I sent you a PM.

For everyone else I am around halfway done, I have not touched anything in the last week due to everyone in our household being ill. My shipping strategy has been shipping the simplest orders first so if you have a big order expect to be near the end.

For those who have DIY Kits those have not yet been shipped to us from @samwisekoi it is my understanding he was still working on getting all the small bits and pieces split into manageable bites to send to us proxies.

Also just in the way of information for those who ordered mx gray switches I only have linear grays and no tactile grays, I am not sure what the other proxies received and have not heard back from @samwisekoi as to if there were any tactile grays to begin with.

And just another FYI I know it has been discussed somewhere but for anyone who ordered costar stabilizers those were never sourced so they are not available.

Again I remind everyone those of us doing the shipping are simply trying to get everyone as correct an order as is possible to bring this buy to as best a resolution as there can be.

Thanks for the update! I'm taking bets on which will arrive first, GH60 or Toxic.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 15 September 2016, 22:51:29
that looks like you're sticking screws through your Vias on the board. Highly suggest you don't do that.

Unless you're not. I haven't seen one of the Rev C boards yet (still got my rev A looking for a plate though :) )

The pcb-mount stabs from this GB and the stab GB use screws to keep them in place. The board was probably designed for the older Cherry style without screws, otherwise the stab would be flipped around.  I found an insulating washer in my electronics stuff, so it's all good now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jabar on Thu, 15 September 2016, 22:56:59
Yours is on the way. :thumb:
And it arrived Tuesday. Now to figure out a case some 3 years later I guess...

Thanks Spamray, you delivered! I have my trebuchet aimed towards the sun, waiting for WfD.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 16 September 2016, 04:22:47
that looks like you're sticking screws through your Vias on the board. Highly suggest you don't do that.

Unless you're not. I haven't seen one of the Rev C boards yet (still got my rev A looking for a plate though :) )

The pcb-mount stabs from this GB and the stab GB use screws to keep them in place. The board was probably designed for the older Cherry style without screws, otherwise the stab would be flipped around.  I found an insulating washer in my electronics stuff, so it's all good now.

The first EVER stabilizers with screws were announced like two weeks ago by Zeal. I advise you to REALLY think about this!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: joey on Fri, 16 September 2016, 04:36:51
that looks like you're sticking screws through your Vias on the board. Highly suggest you don't do that.

Unless you're not. I haven't seen one of the Rev C boards yet (still got my rev A looking for a plate though :) )

The pcb-mount stabs from this GB and the stab GB use screws to keep them in place. The board was probably designed for the older Cherry style without screws, otherwise the stab would be flipped around.  I found an insulating washer in my electronics stuff, so it's all good now.

The first EVER stabilizers with screws were announced like two weeks ago by Zeal. I advise you to REALLY think about this!
Nah, some older cherry boards had screw in stabilizers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 16 September 2016, 07:45:37
That should be screwed into a hole clearly designed for one of the leads to the switch...?

Anyway, sorry about being so adamant on the non-existence of screwless stabs, I looked into it a while ago, and I thought I was thorough enough, but I clearly wasn't. Ass-y behaviour on my part, and I feel kind of bad about it :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 16 September 2016, 10:14:05
I can not quote the post because the groupbuy thread is locked but here is a link to the groupbuy.
search for the work bolt and the whole conversation will come up.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789

the stabilizer groupbuy had some bolt style stabilizers in it, and they came direct from GMK.

I <3 Zeal, but he is not the first one running a GB for bolt style cherry pcb stabilizers.
Maybe he is having a new design made by someone other than GMK?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 16 September 2016, 10:22:30
btw for people that do not know what a insulating washer looks like...

they come with a lot of pc motherboards and if you have a old pc in your garage you plan to throw out you can harvest one from that.
or you can go to a pc repair shop and ask them if they have one.

(http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1mWZ_LXXXXXbzXpXXq6xXFXXXL/100Pcs-3-x-6-x-0-5mm-Fiber-Motherboard-Insulating-Washers-Red.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 16 September 2016, 10:52:28
I can not quote the post because the groupbuy thread is locked but here is a link to the groupbuy.
search for the work bolt and the whole conversation will come up.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789

the stabilizer groupbuy had some bolt style stabilizers in it, and they came direct from GMK.

I <3 Zeal, but he is not the first one running a GB for bolt style cherry pcb stabilizers.
Maybe he is having a new design made by someone other than GMK?

I think he said they were (also) made by Gateron. They're in his current groupbuy on zealpc.net
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: RickyJ on Fri, 16 September 2016, 21:50:14
that looks like you're sticking screws through your Vias on the board. Highly suggest you don't do that.

Unless you're not. I haven't seen one of the Rev C boards yet (still got my rev A looking for a plate though :) )

The pcb-mount stabs from this GB and the stab GB use screws to keep them in place. The board was probably designed for the older Cherry style without screws, otherwise the stab would be flipped around.  I found an insulating washer in my electronics stuff, so it's all good now.

The first EVER stabilizers with screws were announced like two weeks ago by Zeal. I advise you to REALLY think about this!

Two years ago (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789) is when Ivan ran the GB from GMK. ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: RickyJ on Fri, 16 September 2016, 21:53:10
btw for people that do not know what a insulating washer looks like...

they come with a lot of pc motherboards and if you have a old pc in your garage you plan to throw out you can harvest one from that.
or you can go to a pc repair shop and ask them if they have one.

I had a few saved from one of my first pc builds 15 years ago, I knew they'd come in handy eventually!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: bupsthename on Sun, 18 September 2016, 14:50:59
Any update on the fate of people who picked up unpaid orders? Does anyone know if those were ever even ordered?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 18 September 2016, 15:44:34
Any update on the fate of people who picked up unpaid orders? Does anyone know if those were ever even ordered?
All I can say is if the order wasn't in one of our lists we wouldn't have known to ask for the parts to proxy.

I'm not sure what is or will be leftover parts wise with @samwisekoi

And I know some parts were short or nonexistent already.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tikhonovdanya on Tue, 20 September 2016, 10:40:26
Sorry for inconvenience, some people told me that i still can buy here the GH60 pcb in black color. Is it truth or not?  :-X
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 September 2016, 10:44:19
Sorry for inconvenience, some people told me that i still can buy here the GH60 pcb in black color. Is it truth or not?  :-X

No that is not true.

Check this site, I think they can help you  :thumb:

http://falbatech.pl/prestashop/index.php?id_product=97&controller=product&id_lang=2
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tikhonovdanya on Tue, 20 September 2016, 10:59:05
"This product is no longer in stock"

but thank you for the information! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 20 September 2016, 11:33:58
"This product is no longer in stock"

but thank you for the information! :rolleyes:

you can buy the green pcb here http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/gh60
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Tue, 20 September 2016, 13:36:58
Sorry for inconvenience, some people told me that i still can buy here the GH60 pcb in black color. Is it truth or not?  :-X

The only GH60s in black that i know of are the matte black ones done for Rev A. and Rev B.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tikhonovdanya on Tue, 20 September 2016, 14:34:14
As you can see GH60 can be black even in rev C  ;)

http://www.ebay.pl/itm/291879779784
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: durandalx on Tue, 20 September 2016, 18:30:37
PM incoming to you, SpAmRaY, regarding change of address.  Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 September 2016, 20:11:42
PM incoming to you, SpAmRaY, regarding change of address.  Thanks!
Got it and replied.

A couple more orders shipped out today.

Quite a few invoices have been sent that need paid.

And I'm getting down to orders I can't ship due to not having any DIY kits.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 21 September 2016, 08:19:32
Quick update -- I received my proxy bundle from Samwisekoi. I'm in the process of sorting it out and I hope to begin building orders this weekend.

I plan to take each order one-by-one and I'll confirm shipping information and then invoice you for the shipping. Once your shipping is paid, I'll ship you your order.  :cool:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 21 September 2016, 10:23:02
Quick update -- I received my proxy bundle from Samwisekoi. I'm in the process of sorting it out and I hope to begin building orders this weekend.

I plan to take each order one-by-one and I'll confirm shipping information and then invoice you for the shipping. Once your shipping is paid, I'll ship you your order.  :cool:

Oh, great news!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Wed, 21 September 2016, 10:25:13
Quick update -- I received my proxy bundle from Samwisekoi. I'm in the process of sorting it out and I hope to begin building orders this weekend.

I plan to take each order one-by-one and I'll confirm shipping information and then invoice you for the shipping. Once your shipping is paid, I'll ship you your order.  :cool:

Thank you Mashby! Hope things are slowly getting better :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Wed, 21 September 2016, 12:25:31
Quick update -- I received my proxy bundle from Samwisekoi. I'm in the process of sorting it out and I hope to begin building orders this weekend.

I plan to take each order one-by-one and I'll confirm shipping information and then invoice you for the shipping. Once your shipping is paid, I'll ship you your order.  :cool:

Awesome!  Thanks for taking this on!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: JBert on Wed, 21 September 2016, 16:09:50
I wonder how the European proxy bundle is doing. My Poker has been acting up a lot and could do with a new controller...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: fl0w3n on Wed, 21 September 2016, 21:09:39
I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)


I just updated myself from April (my last post) to today, and it appears I should still be waiting on a email from HoffmanMyster for my information confirmation.  I have yet to receive that.  It appears he has all the supplies now, and my name is 16th on his list. 



Also, does anyone care to just give a brief recap of what the hell happened from start to finish?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Thu, 22 September 2016, 10:49:47
I wonder how the European proxy bundle is doing. My Poker has been acting up a lot and could do with a new controller...

Yep my D key is half dead. Bunny / Sam any update on the EU shipments?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Thu, 22 September 2016, 11:01:37
I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)


I just updated myself from April (my last post) to today, and it appears I should still be waiting on a email from HoffmanMyster for my information confirmation.  I have yet to receive that.  It appears he has all the supplies now, and my name is 16th on his list. 



Also, does anyone care to just give a brief recap of what the hell happened from start to finish?

I'll give it my best shot. Other people can chime in and correct me please?

Buy was running, WFD was supposed to run manufacturing, looks like jdcarpe did management of orders to some degree, TJ collected money at request of JD. Switches were being bought from 7-bit and seperately.

WFD goes silent and dissapears(Page 55-60ish?) after prototypes are needed to be made for a 3rd time (possible cause of less money later on?). Luckily, TJ was the one who collected money (iirc, he had a paypal account built for it given that he'd done bigger buys like Klaxon before). People rallied and got stuff built anyways and all shipped to TJ. PCBs were built but some of the shipping was not paid for. People ragged on TJ. TJ decided he had no interest in actually making buy happen anymore (due to personal attacks and/or other? Not entirely sure. Frankly, TJ signed on to originally just take money, but WFD pulling a houdini ****ed him over. TJ actually agreed to take on a herculean part of the work of the buy before people started attacking him.) Buy goes silent in terms of movement for months and months. Buy is considered lost.

Bunny (at this point, somewhat knowledgeable in salvaging dead GBs unfortunately), Matt3o and komar managed to get ahold of TJ, and get **** moving again. Managed to get TJ to release all the components/money, got the boards shipped to the EU. Komar shipps bunny switches as well. (around page 95 of this thread). Matt3o takes over getting stuff through the US. When Bunny gets the $$$ it's MUCH less than it should be (never sure that was sorted out). Samwisekoi agrees to sort out everything that's shipped to him, which turns out to be a crapton of things, but not everything that was ordered is there, AND weird things like mixed clears/whites have occurred. A call is made for people to take on some of the load, Spamray, Hoffman and Mashby agree to take charge of that (as well as I'm sure multiple other people volunteered, but they were all chosen because they're known to get things done).

Samwise sorts all the things, and mails them to the proxies. Spamray and Hoff are working through what they get. Mashby's shipment was mis-shipped at some point, and has just arrived, but he's been dealing with life stuff due to all the flooding that's been going on in the south.

All of the people up above (besides WFD, but tbh....**** WFD) have pretty much saved this GB from turning into vapor at some point, and should be thanked for that. There's also a lot of side stuff that had to do with stabs not being available, then IvanIvanovitch got those handled. So props to him too.

Edit: I've been reading through and updating as stuff gets clearer. Also, I've been getting angrier as i've been reading through the bull**** in the high 70s, early 80s of this thread.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 22 September 2016, 14:07:30
I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)


I just updated myself from April (my last post) to today, and it appears I should still be waiting on a email from HoffmanMyster for my information confirmation.  I have yet to receive that.  It appears he has all the supplies now, and my name is 16th on his list. 



Also, does anyone care to just give a brief recap of what the hell happened from start to finish?

I'll give it my best shot. Other people can chime in and correct me please?

Buy was running, WFD was supposed to run manufacturing, looks like jdcarpe did management of orders to some degree, TJ collected money. Switches were being bought from 7-bit.

WFD goes silent and dissapears(Page 55-60ish?) after prototypes are needed to be made for a 3rd time (possible cause of less money later on?). Luckily, TJ was the one who collected money (iirc, he had a paypal account built for it given that he'd done bigger buys like Klaxon before). People rallied and got stuff built anyways and all shipped to TJ. PCBs were built but some of the shipping was not paid for. People ragged on TJ. TJ decided he had no interest in actually making buy happen anymore (due to personal attacks and/or laziness/other? Not entirely sure. Frankly, TJ signed on to originally just take money, but WFD pulling a houdini ****ed him over.) Buy goes silent in terms of movement for months and months. Buy is considered lost.

Bunny (at this point, somewhat knowledgeable in salvaging dead GBs, sadly), Matt3o and komar managed to get ahold of TJ, and get **** moving again. Managed to get TJ to release all the components/money, got the boards shipped to the EU. Komar shipps bunny switches as well. (around page 95 of this thread). Matt3o takes over getting stuff through the US. When Bunny gets the $$$ it's MUCH less than it should be (never sure that was sorted out). Samwisekoi agrees to sort out everything that's shipped to him, which turns out to be a crapton of things, but not everything that was ordered is there, AND weird things like mixed clears/whites have occurred.) A call is made for people to take on some of the load, Spamray, Hoffman and Mashby agree to take charge of that.

Samwise sorts all the things, and mails them to the proxies. Spamray and Hoff are working through what they get. Mashby's shipment was mis-shipped at some point, and has just arrived, but he's been dealing with life stuff due to all the flooding that's been going on in the south.

All of the people up above have pretty much saved this GB from turning into vapor at some point, and should be thanked for that.

Edit: I've been reading through and updating as stuff gets clearer.
The Aristocrats!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Acanthophis on Thu, 22 September 2016, 14:36:56
Is Bunny still active? How are the EU orders coming along?
I PM'd him a while ago about an address change, he never replied.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Thu, 22 September 2016, 15:11:11
Bunny has a new kid, but has been pretty good about responding as far as I'm concerned. He's still working on fixing the whole TFR debacle, and I bet he gets a ton of PMs.

He was online earlier today too according to his profile.

Edit: he's also waiting on plates, etc from the US. He shipped PCBs and whatever else to people who asked over the last several months, but was only able to ship what was on hand.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: oluf on Fri, 23 September 2016, 21:30:02
I received my GH60 today.. It was packed extremely well... Thank you SpAmRaY!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 23 September 2016, 21:47:11
I received my GH60 today.. It was packed extremely well... Thank you SpAmRaY!
Good to hear.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 24 September 2016, 01:37:17
Uhhhh any word hoff?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glissant on Sat, 24 September 2016, 18:22:39
Got to go over my order and try to put some boards together today. Everything I ordered was there so that's excellent. Everything came perfectly packed so that's great. Thank you very much to everybody involved in salvaging this group buy as well as is possible.
The PCB stabilizers and the stabilizer wires are turning out to be a little bit of a nightmare though. The wires are bent in such a way that it makes it impossible for me to use them with any plate that I have, aluminum or acrylic. And the stabilizers are unfortunately a little incompatible with the GH60 rev.c, so I have to get some washers for a few spots on the board to avoid shorting the board.
Rather minor "issues" compared to where this buy was heading for a while, so again thank everybody so very much for their hard work and dedication to getting this group buy out of the way.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 25 September 2016, 22:47:42
If anyone knows @Dubsgalore or @codyeatworld have them either PM me or reply to my email about their GH60 orders they were both supposed to reply to me months ago and never have.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Mon, 26 September 2016, 00:29:29
If anyone knows @Dubsgalore or @codyeatworld have them either PM me or reply to my email about their GH60 orders they were both supposed to reply to me months ago and never have.



I pinged dubs on steam, hopefully you get an answer soon. looks like he was online earlier today.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: fl0w3n on Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:08:00
I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)


I just updated myself from April (my last post) to today, and it appears I should still be waiting on a email from HoffmanMyster for my information confirmation.  I have yet to receive that.  It appears he has all the supplies now, and my name is 16th on his list. 



Also, does anyone care to just give a brief recap of what the hell happened from start to finish?

I'll give it my best shot. Other people can chime in and correct me please?

Buy was running, WFD was supposed to run manufacturing, looks like jdcarpe did management of orders to some degree, TJ collected money. Switches were being bought from 7-bit.

WFD goes silent and dissapears(Page 55-60ish?) after prototypes are needed to be made for a 3rd time (possible cause of less money later on?). Luckily, TJ was the one who collected money (iirc, he had a paypal account built for it given that he'd done bigger buys like Klaxon before). People rallied and got stuff built anyways and all shipped to TJ. PCBs were built but some of the shipping was not paid for. People ragged on TJ. TJ decided he had no interest in actually making buy happen anymore (due to personal attacks and/or laziness/other? Not entirely sure. Frankly, TJ signed on to originally just take money, but WFD pulling a houdini ****ed him over.) Buy goes silent in terms of movement for months and months. Buy is considered lost.

Bunny (at this point, somewhat knowledgeable in salvaging dead GBs, sadly), Matt3o and komar managed to get ahold of TJ, and get **** moving again. Managed to get TJ to release all the components/money, got the boards shipped to the EU. Komar shipps bunny switches as well. (around page 95 of this thread). Matt3o takes over getting stuff through the US. When Bunny gets the $$$ it's MUCH less than it should be (never sure that was sorted out). Samwisekoi agrees to sort out everything that's shipped to him, which turns out to be a crapton of things, but not everything that was ordered is there, AND weird things like mixed clears/whites have occurred.) A call is made for people to take on some of the load, Spamray, Hoffman and Mashby agree to take charge of that.

Samwise sorts all the things, and mails them to the proxies. Spamray and Hoff are working through what they get. Mashby's shipment was mis-shipped at some point, and has just arrived, but he's been dealing with life stuff due to all the flooding that's been going on in the south.

All of the people up above have pretty much saved this GB from turning into vapor at some point, and should be thanked for that.

Edit: I've been reading through and updating as stuff gets clearer.
The Aristocrats!

Thanks for that, shortly after I got in on this group buy I kind of faded from keyboards so the whole story wasn't clear.

So WFD never actually possessed the money or materials, but was the master mind and coordinator?

What happened to the guy who designed the pcb, was that Komar? I don't recall.

I'm not even sure what I'll do with mine once I get it any more lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Mon, 26 September 2016, 23:12:16
I want to encourage anyone who paid money who has not been contacted please let us know you are owed an order.

I can't speak for the other guys but personally I'll do whatever I can to help people get what they ordered however most if not all of the parts have already been sorted into shipments for the individual proxies based on the information we have. Hopefully we will get them soon so we can start shipping things out.

Having said that the hard truth is

 -some orders simply won't be fulfilled; at best until we get a majority of orders out and find we have extras or possibly not at all due to not having the proper information and/or parts
 -not everyone who does get an order will get everything they ordered

Some parts were never ordered (just a reminder the money is long gone and that has nothing to do with any of us currently involved), other parts have already been found out to be short on amount and as has been mentioned we are limited by the information we have been given to work from.

The names that have been posted in this thread are the only names the CONUS proxies have an order on record for.

Don't give up hope, we all want this to succeed as best it can.  8)


I just updated myself from April (my last post) to today, and it appears I should still be waiting on a email from HoffmanMyster for my information confirmation.  I have yet to receive that.  It appears he has all the supplies now, and my name is 16th on his list. 



Also, does anyone care to just give a brief recap of what the hell happened from start to finish?

I'll give it my best shot. Other people can chime in and correct me please?

Buy was running, WFD was supposed to run manufacturing, looks like jdcarpe did management of orders to some degree, TJ collected money. Switches were being bought from 7-bit.

WFD goes silent and dissapears(Page 55-60ish?) after prototypes are needed to be made for a 3rd time (possible cause of less money later on?). Luckily, TJ was the one who collected money (iirc, he had a paypal account built for it given that he'd done bigger buys like Klaxon before). People rallied and got stuff built anyways and all shipped to TJ. PCBs were built but some of the shipping was not paid for. People ragged on TJ. TJ decided he had no interest in actually making buy happen anymore (due to personal attacks and/or laziness/other? Not entirely sure. Frankly, TJ signed on to originally just take money, but WFD pulling a houdini ****ed him over.) Buy goes silent in terms of movement for months and months. Buy is considered lost.

Bunny (at this point, somewhat knowledgeable in salvaging dead GBs, sadly), Matt3o and komar managed to get ahold of TJ, and get **** moving again. Managed to get TJ to release all the components/money, got the boards shipped to the EU. Komar shipps bunny switches as well. (around page 95 of this thread). Matt3o takes over getting stuff through the US. When Bunny gets the $$$ it's MUCH less than it should be (never sure that was sorted out). Samwisekoi agrees to sort out everything that's shipped to him, which turns out to be a crapton of things, but not everything that was ordered is there, AND weird things like mixed clears/whites have occurred.) A call is made for people to take on some of the load, Spamray, Hoffman and Mashby agree to take charge of that.

Samwise sorts all the things, and mails them to the proxies. Spamray and Hoff are working through what they get. Mashby's shipment was mis-shipped at some point, and has just arrived, but he's been dealing with life stuff due to all the flooding that's been going on in the south.

All of the people up above have pretty much saved this GB from turning into vapor at some point, and should be thanked for that.

Edit: I've been reading through and updating as stuff gets clearer.
The Aristocrats!

Thanks for that, shortly after I got in on this group buy I kind of faded from keyboards so the whole story wasn't clear.

So WFD never actually possessed the money or materials, but was the master mind and coordinator?

What happened to the guy who designed the pcb, was that Komar? I don't recall.

I'm not even sure what I'll do with mine once I get it any more lol

About right. From my understanding it sounds like WFD never posessed anything. He was just coordinating all of the buys and iirc was supposed to be mastermind of distribution.

Komar still hangs around. though I don't know how often he posts.

And I still have cases and keycaps for mine. SF40 is the one i'm concerned about.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 28 September 2016, 11:53:17
Just a heads up for people wondering, I still don't know the status on DIY kits.

I'm getting closer to being done but have quite a few large orders along with a few orders for people who I can't get in contact with or who have not responded to previous communications.

Anyone on my list who wants an individual update feel free to PM me, again that is people on my list, you can find it posted previously in this thread.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Tarzan on Sun, 02 October 2016, 14:49:49
So, if I never got contacted regarding a shipping address, I'm not likely at this point to get a GH60?  Or should I just check back in another year?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 02 October 2016, 21:50:59
So, if I never got contacted regarding a shipping address, I'm not likely at this point to get a GH60?  Or should I just check back in another year?

You would be on @mashby list he recently posted he has parts and is working on getting them sorted out and shipped soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: agodinhost on Wed, 05 October 2016, 20:08:21
Hi, please, whom is dealing with the US orders?
I got 3 pcbs looooooong time ago (no stabs or plate) to be shiiped to JdCarpe however I'm kinda out and dunno how it's going on ...
thank you
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 October 2016, 08:07:13
Hi, please, whom is dealing with the US orders?
I got 3 pcbs looooooong time ago (no stabs or plate) to be shiiped to JdCarpe however I'm kinda out and dunno how it's going on ...
thank you

I'm replying here in case there are others who have a similar situation.

The US proxy order member lists were posted months ago (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2057098#msg2057098), those are the only orders we proxies have received to ship out and to be clear even on those orders not all parts were available.

Again I reiterate at some point a decision was made just to get this buy moving that a particular list of orders was 'the' list of orders we would fulfill.

**************************************************************************************************************************

To everyone else waiting on their order to ship from me, @samwisekoi has disappeared and I have not been able to get a reply from him.

I have never received any of the DIY parts and the only gray switches I received were linear and not tactile.

Most all of the orders I have left to ship either contain DIY kits and/or are large orders which I just haven't gotten around to counting out all the parts for. If your order contains DIY kits and you would prefer to go ahead and get what parts I do have and pay for separate shipping at a later time if I get the rest of the parts then please contact me and we can work that out.

There are still a few people who have not gotten back to me with information I need to send them a paypal invoice for shipping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Broadmonkey on Mon, 10 October 2016, 15:47:09

To everyone else waiting on their order to ship from me, @samwisekoi has disappeared and I have not been able to get a reply from him.

I have never received any of the DIY parts and the only gray switches I received were linear and not tactile.

When can we conclude that we have gotten to the point where there is no more parts left to wait for, so we can just start ship what has been salvaged?

I'm in the international group and thought a year ago, that plates would be just around the corner.

BunnyLake, would it be possible to get international orders shipped? We will never get the plates anyway.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 October 2016, 16:03:30

To everyone else waiting on their order to ship from me, @samwisekoi has disappeared and I have not been able to get a reply from him.

I have never received any of the DIY parts and the only gray switches I received were linear and not tactile.

When can we conclude that we have gotten to the point where there is no more parts left to wait for, so we can just start ship what has been salvaged?

I'm in the international group and thought a year ago, that plates would be just around the corner.

BunnyLake, would it be possible to get international orders shipped? We will never get the plates anyway.
All I know is shipping of the stuff to bunnylake from samwisekoi has been pending for some time now.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tradet on Wed, 12 October 2016, 13:08:03
I did get my pcbs and switches a while ago but I'm still waiting for my plates. Am I correct that we won't receive the plates? I'm somewhere in the international orders, it's BunnyLake who's my contact right?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Fri, 14 October 2016, 12:03:50
I think Bunny has disappeared too? Still waiting for all of the bits!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Mon, 17 October 2016, 17:15:49
Quick update -- I received my proxy bundle from Samwisekoi. I'm in the process of sorting it out and I hope to begin building orders this weekend.

I plan to take each order one-by-one and I'll confirm shipping information and then invoice you for the shipping. Once your shipping is paid, I'll ship you your order.  :cool:

Hey Mashby,

Just checking in to see if you tried to contact me. I haven't heard anything yet.

Duq
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: swill on Mon, 17 October 2016, 22:20:57
I'm a little slow to get going, but I have one order shipped out as of today. 

There are a lot of parts involved in this, so all I can say at this point is that samwisekoi is a saint for sorting everything and tidying it all up for us proxies.  I knew how many orders (and PCBs, plates, switches, etc) I would be shipping, but opening the boxes and seeing it all in front of me was very overwhelming.  I hope that no one ever attempts a group buy of this scale again.

Ya, I can't even imagine how daunting that is.  I have to ship stuff for my company all the time and even that is annoying.  :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 26 October 2016, 06:16:24
Just a heads up to my people.

I haven't had much time to sort and pack the last couple weeks but hopefully can get back on track soon.

Again anyone with DIY kits I didn't receive those yet from samwisekoi so your order is on hold unless you contact me asking for your other stuff separately.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Tue, 01 November 2016, 04:23:20
NA is rolling out slowly, are we considering EU dead in the water now? Anyone heard from Bunny or Sam?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 09 November 2016, 20:47:34
Just an update.

My home computer hasn't been usable for a little while now so I haven't been able to do much in regards to packing and shipping orders.

I've been trying to find a good cheap desktop or something to replace it but no luck.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: metafour on Fri, 11 November 2016, 01:22:57
Seems like some of us are in a similar boat to when others were in charge of this, no movement, missed "deadlines", and no communication. It's depressing to see it play out like this. Honest communication is all I'm really asking for until this is completed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 11 November 2016, 09:38:43
Hello there!  Many apologies for my absence and lack of update on the things I haven't yet done.  I have a list of excuses, but they don't matter, really, so I will just say that I am sorry.

The election phase of whatever is happening here in the States is over, and I am trying to complete anything I have outstanding.  THIS project is next up, and here is what I have:

#1 Box of DIY components.

That is what this is -- a box of bags of loose components.  I -- or some other poor sap noble volunteer -- must a) figure out the actual part count per kit, b) count and bag thousands of timy SMD components, c) group them into four shipments for the downstream proxies, and d) ship them.  I have a working draft for step (a), but I have been unsuccessful in finding another poor sap noble volunteer to do step (b).  I could make pay my teenage sons to do it, but then I'd have to deal with the post-shipment mistakes.

Anyhow, at some point I am going to have to suck it up, go rent a counting scale again, and get through step (b).  It will be downhill from there.

#2  European Proxy Shipment.

I have the plates and PCBs double-packed and ready for expensive shipment to the UK.  I do not have the DIY kits, or really good confirmation about what beyond plates and PCBs I should ship.  I need to verify Bunny is still the guy for the next level and start shipping.  So my plan as of today is to send him what I have, and deal with the DIY kits in a second shipment.

#3  The leftovers.

Once all of that is done, I will have extra PCBs, plates, random bags of switches, and probably DIY parts jamming my conference room. I have no idea what to do with all of that, but I assume there will be shortages and missing shipments down the line, so I am keeping all of the extras to address those problems.

Next Steps:

I am going to validate that Bunnylake is still the ship-to guy, and ship what I have ready for him.  Then I will deal with the dang DIY stuff.

Again, my apologies for the delay during my leg of the relay.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: cyberwave on Mon, 21 November 2016, 06:27:02
what the latest on international orders?  :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 21 November 2016, 06:45:51
paging DR. Hoof.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: dgneo on Mon, 21 November 2016, 06:48:39
paging DR. Hoof.

If I'm remembering right he got both a new job and a new living situation within the past month, so I'm sure that's what attributing to the delays.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 21 November 2016, 11:21:28
what the latest on international orders?  :(

The latest on non-US orders is that I do not have confirmation to ship.  I've got boxes all packed up and ready, but no where for them to go.

Anyone want to be the EU-proxy?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 21 November 2016, 11:26:25
what the latest on international orders?  :(

The latest on non-US orders is that I do not have confirmation to ship.  I've got boxes all packed up and ready, but no where for them to go.

Anyone want to be the EU-proxy?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
I'm sure @bunnylake has just been busy if you haven't heard from him.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 21 November 2016, 11:28:47
what the latest on international orders?  :(

The latest on non-US orders is that I do not have confirmation to ship.  I've got boxes all packed up and ready, but no where for them to go.

Anyone want to be the EU-proxy?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

I've been just waiting for them to ship to me

Havent had any further communication about it

Got all the PCBs here and I'm dying to get them out my house

Either ship the plates switches, diy kits and stabs to me and I'm sill happy to ship them

Or let me know who you are shipping those parts to and ill forward them the PCBs

Eother way I'd like it done asap as I've now had to sit on these PCBs for well over a year when this was meant to be finished for me before my kid was born
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 21 November 2016, 12:03:13
what the latest on international orders?  :(

The latest on non-US orders is that I do not have confirmation to ship.  I've got boxes all packed up and ready, but no where for them to go.

Anyone want to be the EU-proxy?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

I've been just waiting for them to ship to me

Havent had any further communication about it

Got all the PCBs here and I'm dying to get them out my house

Either ship the plates switches, diy kits and stabs to me and I'm sill happy to ship them

Or let me know who you are shipping those parts to and ill forward them the PCBs

Eother way I'd like it done asap as I've now had to sit on these PCBs for well over a year when this was meant to be finished for me before my kid was born

OK!  Apparently my e-mail of 11/11 did not make it to you.  I shall re-send now.

Thanks for the quick reply!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[UPDATE] Re-sent to the live DOT com e-mail address registered with GH.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 21 November 2016, 12:03:52
what the latest on international orders?  :(

The latest on non-US orders is that I do not have confirmation to ship.  I've got boxes all packed up and ready, but no where for them to go.

Anyone want to be the EU-proxy?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

I've been just waiting for them to ship to me

Havent had any further communication about it

Got all the PCBs here and I'm dying to get them out my house

Either ship the plates switches, diy kits and stabs to me and I'm sill happy to ship them

Or let me know who you are shipping those parts to and ill forward them the PCBs

Eother way I'd like it done asap as I've now had to sit on these PCBs for well over a year when this was meant to be finished for me before my kid was born

OK!  Apparently my e-mail of 11/11 did not make it to you.  I shall re-send now.

Thanks for the quick reply!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Shoot it to bunnylake@ctrlalt.io I'm on it now


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 21 November 2016, 12:07:54
Shoot it to bunnylake@ctrlalt.io I'm on it now

Done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 27 November 2016, 07:07:12
I know a few people have contacted me this past week but I've been out of town and will be gone for another week around Christmas just as a heads up.

I'm still having computer troubles but will do my best to get my orders that I can get done finished between now and the end of this year. I borrowed a computer from a friend but I've got to install an OS etc to get it going.

I do apologize as I hadn't expected this would take as long as it has but I'm slowly making progress.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: precarious on Wed, 30 November 2016, 18:45:54
this is so hilarious the only thing i wanted was a customizable 60% keyboard


three and a half years ago
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Muffet on Thu, 01 December 2016, 16:54:05
this is so hilarious the only thing i wanted was a customizable 60% keyboard


three and a half years ago

My wife is convinced that I will never see it. I have one friend that prods and jokes about it every time i see him. I had planned on giving him my old keyboard (the one I am still using now) after I built it.

Honestly I have been thinking about buying a different board, I have a bunch of MX greens that have been sitting in a storage container along with the aluminum case that I designed and milled myself. Seems a shame to let them collect dust for all eternity.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 01 December 2016, 18:03:46
paging DR. Hoof.

If I'm remembering right he got both a new job and a new living situation within the past month, so I'm sure that's what attributing to the delays.

This is correct.  I'm currently living out of boxes right now.  I would love to get this taken care of ASAP, but don't think I can accurately provide a timing estimate right now.  :|
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 06 December 2016, 13:54:11
Mashby still committed? Is there still hope?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 December 2016, 06:01:56
Just a heads up for my peeps, I should be starting back up shipping really soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Thu, 08 December 2016, 12:49:55
Mashby still committed? Is there still hope?



I messaged him a few weeks ago. No response as of yet.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 08 December 2016, 23:24:41
I'm still digging out from my mountain of boxes. I haven't abandoned you all.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: buzzking00 on Sat, 10 December 2016, 12:45:14
I am confused. This groupbuy is from 2013 and it is still shipping in 2016?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 10 December 2016, 12:56:46
Just stopping in to say I'm prepped and ready just waiting on my package from the states to arrive
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 10 December 2016, 12:57:57
I am confused. This groupbuy is from 2013 and it is still shipping in 2016?

All the original people in the gb abandoned it, so some other members have taken on completing it

It's a logistical nightmare how it was left so many people are trying to piece it together

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 10 December 2016, 13:01:20
I am confused. This groupbuy is from 2013 and it is still shipping in 2016?

Right.  This buy grew way too big, and all of the original people who launched it dropped out for one reason or another.  And so there was a dead group buy and a whole bunch of material (PCBs, plates, switches, etc.) sitting in garages.  Then a completely separate bunch of volunteers agreed to salvage the GB by sorting and shipping all the material through a series of proxies in the hopes of getting as many participants something for their initial investments.

Normally when a group buy dies mid-stream, everybody loses their investment, but in THIS case, several of us are trying to prevent that.

So the "Salvage Mode" in the thread title represents that volunteer effort to avoid a complete loss.

To the degree that makes sense, it also explains the pace, as zero of the people working on this now had any part in the original group buy, and are mostly losing money by helping salvage this thing.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(Auto-typed by my GH36 Matrix Keypad.)

p.s.  Bunny, it will be coming next week.  I unburied it yesterday.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 10 December 2016, 13:18:37
I am confused. This groupbuy is from 2013 and it is still shipping in 2016?

Right.  This buy grew way too big, and all of the original people who launched it dropped out for one reason or another.  And so there was a dead group buy and a whole bunch of material (PCBs, plates, switches, etc.) sitting in garages.  Then a completely separate bunch of volunteers agreed to salvage the GB by sorting and shipping all the material through a series of proxies in the hopes of getting as many participants something for their initial investments.

Normally when a group buy dies mid-stream, everybody loses their investment, but in THIS case, several of us are trying to prevent that.

So the "Salvage Mode" in the thread title represents that volunteer effort to avoid a complete loss.

To the degree that makes sense, it also explains the pace, as zero of the people working on this now had any part in the original group buy, and are mostly losing money by helping salvage this thing.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(Auto-typed by my GH36 Matrix Keypad.)

p.s.  Bunny, it will be coming next week.  I unburied it yesterday.

No problem at all good sir, I unpacked all the parts I have here and have them sorted and ready

For everyone I'm shipping orders to (basically every non conus order) what I will have people do is fill out a support request on ctrl alt, please don't do this now I will announce when, but what that'll mean is I have an open line of communication with everyone who has an order, that will keep the conversation both together and in order, where I can also update statuses, tracking info and whatnot

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: JBert on Sun, 11 December 2016, 10:52:16
For everyone I'm shipping orders to (basically every non conus order) what I will have people do is fill out a support request on ctrl alt, please don't do this now I will announce when
Once you're ready and post an announcement, can you include some (short) instructions on the URL, where to get an account and how to correctly contact you there?

I seem to remember something about a post when that site was introduced but I've never used or seen it.

Thanks once more for your continued effort.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: buzzking00 on Sun, 11 December 2016, 11:10:22
I am confused. This groupbuy is from 2013 and it is still shipping in 2016?

Right.  This buy grew way too big, and all of the original people who launched it dropped out for one reason or another.  And so there was a dead group buy and a whole bunch of material (PCBs, plates, switches, etc.) sitting in garages.  Then a completely separate bunch of volunteers agreed to salvage the GB by sorting and shipping all the material through a series of proxies in the hopes of getting as many participants something for their initial investments.

Normally when a group buy dies mid-stream, everybody loses their investment, but in THIS case, several of us are trying to prevent that.

So the "Salvage Mode" in the thread title represents that volunteer effort to avoid a complete loss.

To the degree that makes sense, it also explains the pace, as zero of the people working on this now had any part in the original group buy, and are mostly losing money by helping salvage this thing.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(Auto-typed by my GH36 Matrix Keypad.)

p.s.  Bunny, it will be coming next week.  I unburied it yesterday.

Thank you for the great explanation. This whole time I thought a new version of the GH60 came out with a new mode called the "Salvage Mode". I hope everything works out for everyone in the GB!

 :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 12 December 2016, 13:04:20
Good news, everyone!

While prepping the UK shipment I discovered The Lost Little Bags of Switches with Names On!

After I get the UK boxes out to BunnyLake, I'll post the list of users and get addresses for to send them out.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 12 December 2016, 13:54:15
These are the little bags I have:

kdash4 (MXWHITEP/NW-2,MXCLEARP/NW-60, MXGREYP/NW-30)
Strelok (MXWHITEP-67,MXGREENP-67)
gomez18 (MXBLUEP-63)
HoffmanMyster (MXBLACKP/NW-25, MXGREENP/NW-75
n0rvig (MXBROWNP-63)

I know where to send HoffmanMyster.  Should any of those go via BunnyLake?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

This little baggie was shipped!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 12 December 2016, 17:45:42
Yay for switches that were lost but now are found!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 12 December 2016, 18:54:25
Yay for switches that were lost but now are found!

You have no idea!

Now to find a way to get a couple of small 35-pound boxes to the UK for less than $300 plus VAT...

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 13 December 2016, 16:27:38
And all the European (non-DIY) parts are shipped to BunnyLake.  USPS International Priority Mail with tracking.

Four small but heavy boxes turned out to be the best way to ship 60% plates.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 14 December 2016, 21:26:37
Back at it

(https://i.imgur.com/QSjwPaz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5N1IVOk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oZzhPMd.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 15 December 2016, 02:06:24
Back at it


Thanks for stepping up!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 15 December 2016, 10:34:43
Next-tier proxies:

I am now down to the dregs of the GH60 parts.  All the non-DIY stuff has been shipped out, and I am cleaning out the boxes and bins that are left.  And as you know, there was never a solid inventory of what, exactly, was shipped to me.

So, if you are missing parts for user shipments, please let me know and I will check the piles of things I have left.  I have assorted plates, some PCBs, and several small bags of random switches.

Good luck on your efforts to send the parts on their way to the final destinations, and please remember to check with me about any items you are missing.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.

p.s.  Please use e-mail for your requests so I don't miss them on GH.

p.p.s.  This was not an invitation for non-proxies to ask for extras.  Just sayin'...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 15 December 2016, 10:43:35
every time I come back to geekhack after a break I'm like ok by now they must have finally given up on the gh60. but this time I come back and... what's this? progress? really nice job guys :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 15 December 2016, 12:41:15
I know mashby had a series of unfortunate events at home and cant help it but it would be good if he at least checked in, i swear this group buy isnt just a clusterf**K, its also cursed.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 15 December 2016, 12:51:26
I know mashby had a series of unfortunate events at home and cant help it but it would be good if he at least checked in, i swear this group buy isnt just a clusterf**K, its also cursed.

You know the horror films where the zombie/alien/anti-hero continues to be shot, exploded, burned in fire, and still keeps walking while the hero says "die you bastid, die!"?  This is that Group Buy.  It keeps taking shots and losing workers, but it keeps standing up and staggering/crawling towards the goal.

We SHALL make the goal!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 16 December 2016, 12:15:10
GH60 parts for Europe have made it to London.  From now on it is up to the Royal Mail...

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: osxoep on Fri, 16 December 2016, 13:38:36
GH60 parts for Europe have made it to London.  From now on it is up to the Royal Mail...

 - Ron | samwisekoi

see it in a few weeks then :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 18 December 2016, 12:16:17
Euro users, I think your parts are closer to BunnyLake:

Quote from: Royal Mail
Held in Customs   COVENTRY PARCELFORCE, UNITED KINGDOM   December 18, 2016 9:42 am

GH60 parts for Europe have made it to London.  From now on it is up to the Royal Mail...

 - Ron | samwisekoi

see it in a few weeks then :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 18 December 2016, 12:27:45
I was actually gonna update tonight. It sams post pinged my tapatalk, tracking states in the uk, as soon as they arrive I'll let people know, and I'll post details tonight about how to contact me once I'm at my desk


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Mon, 19 December 2016, 10:41:13
Any news from Mashby? Not worried, but he's gone dark.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: boost on Mon, 19 December 2016, 13:41:48
...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 19 December 2016, 16:32:52
ok non conus folks

the stuff from america should be with me any day now

could everyone, regardless of whether we have been in communication before or not

please fill out a support request on ctrlalt.io

you can do so by logging in and going here

https://ctrlalt.io/account/help/requests/new

for the subject, please title it GH60

for the body of the message

please include in this order

NAME AND ADDRESS (with phone number)

CONTACT EMAIL ADDRESS (just in case iu need to contact you and you arent responding in support)

A VERY CLEAR DESCRIPTION OF WHAT YOU ORDERED

PREFERABLY A SCREENSHOT OF YOUR ORIGINAL INVOICE

for anyone who required their gh60 to be built, i will be providing building services, this will be charged at $25 per board, you can take this option regardless of whether you initially ordered it or not, i have just added this figure as a barrier to entry to stop everyone doing it, but the service is there for anyone who needs it, itll be a fixed price no matter what the job including switch modding etc, as long as all supplies are either on hand or provided

if you would like me to build your board, please also state this in your original support request, with a detailed description of what you would like done, layout, parts etc

if you provide me with a hex file of the layout you want, i will put that on for you, if you do not, ill put a generic one on to fully test the board for you

as for time on this, i feel comfortable doing 3 a night, and would like to cap this service at 40 boards total so this doesnt drag out more than 2 weeks

they will be built on a first come first serve basis, apart from people who originally ordered soldering services with their order, anybody who originally paid for that i will also allow in after the 40 board cap as i expect this number to be low

all money taken from building services will be donated to the hospital who will be performing my sons operation later next year

i will also pack standard orders on a first come first serve basis based on the order i receive the support requests

that being said this should be a very quick turnaround for everyone who follows the instructions above

please also note some additional shipping fees will need to be collected as with american orders, and i will include any relevent details about this once i contact you back via the support for

once you have made a support ticket, you can update it at any time, and i would prefer if all ocmmunication with myself be kept there, so things are kept both together and in order, i will also give out the tracking numbers via the support tickets, and at that time close the ticket, once the board has shipped, please then feel free to contact me either via this thread or via pm

thanks


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: infiniti on Mon, 19 December 2016, 22:51:46
ok non conus folks
More
the stuff from america should be with me any day now

could everyone, regardless of whether we have been in communication before or not

please fill out a support request on ctrlalt.io

you can do so by logging in and going here

https://ctrlalt.io/account/help/requests/new

for the subject, please title it GH60

for the body of the message

please include in this order

NAME AND ADDRESS (with phone number)

CONTACT EMAIL ADDRESS (just in case iu need to contact you and you arent responding in support)

A VERY CLEAR DESCRIPTION OF WHAT YOU ORDERED

PREFERABLY A SCREENSHOT OF YOUR ORIGINAL INVOICE

for anyone who required their gh60 to be built, i will be providing building services, this will be charged at $25 per board, you can take this option regardless of whether you initially ordered it or not, i have just added this figure as a barrier to entry to stop everyone doing it, but the service is there for anyone who needs it, itll be a fixed price no matter what the job including switch modding etc, as long as all supplies are either on hand or provided

if you would like me to build your board, please also state this in your original support request, with a detailed description of what you would like done, layout, parts etc

if you provide me with a hex file of the layout you want, i will put that on for you, if you do not, ill put a generic one on to fully test the board for you

as for time on this, i feel comfortable doing 3 a night, and would like to cap this service at 40 boards total so this doesnt drag out more than 2 weeks

they will be built on a first come first serve basis, apart from people who originally ordered soldering services with their order, anybody who originally paid for that i will also allow in after the 40 board cap as i expect this number to be low

all money taken from building services will be donated to the hospital who will be performing my sons operation later next year

i will also pack standard orders on a first come first serve basis based on the order i receive the support requests

that being said this should be a very quick turnaround for everyone who follows the instructions above

please also note some additional shipping fees will need to be collected as with american orders, and i will include any relevent details about this once i contact you back via the support for

once you have made a support ticket, you can update it at any time, and i would prefer if all ocmmunication with myself be kept there, so things are kept both together and in order, i will also give out the tracking numbers via the support tickets, and at that time close the ticket, once the board has shipped, please then feel free to contact me either via this thread or via pm

thanks

Added a link to this reply in the OP for visibility.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Acanthophis on Tue, 20 December 2016, 00:32:15
How am I supposed to remember my order from over 3 years ago when the Order Confirmations Google doc is down?


Edit: Nevermind, I luckily still have the invoice email from TJcaustin from over 3 years ago. Without the link in that email, I wouldn't have the chance of accessing it online on Paypal as it only goes back in history 3 years.


Edit2: Oh, and I totally forgot: This is really nice news and I'd like to thank everyone involved who stood by this GB and still made it happen so far. I'll be finally at peace when this thing arrives. Your work and effort is really appreciated!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 20 December 2016, 05:01:12
huge thank you to everyone who has filled out a support request, everyone has done it exactly how i asked and it greatly speeds up my ability to fullfill orders

ive just checked the tracking on the US stuff and its currently stuck in customs, hopefully itll be released soon so we can get this all out
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mickd on Tue, 20 December 2016, 05:50:42
Thanks BunnyLake. This is great news!

Does anyone still have access to the original google doc? I have the PayPal invoice in my email, but it doesn't say which switches I ordered. Just the amount of switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 20 December 2016, 09:25:51
Is there even a chance of getting switches (green in my case)? And will I get the plate I ordered (SamwiseKoi), or whatever is on hand? What's the best way to send a screenshot? So many questions, but I'm grateful for the light at the end of the tunnel for some people.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 20 December 2016, 11:52:10
Is there even a chance of getting switches (green in my case)? And will I get the plate I ordered (SamwiseKoi), or whatever is on hand? What's the best way to send a screenshot? So many questions, but I'm grateful for the light at the end of the tunnel for some people.

Plates are on the way to me, I have greens on hand


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 21 December 2016, 05:09:12
Back at it

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/QSjwPaz.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5N1IVOk.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oZzhPMd.jpg)

Thx BOO. Don't forget, my plates aren't in there  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BimboBB on Wed, 21 December 2016, 13:28:05
ok non conus folks

the stuff from america should be with me any day now

could everyone, regardless of whether we have been in communication before or not

please fill out a support request on ctrlalt.io

you can do so by logging in and going here

https://ctrlalt.io/account/help/requests/new


Thanks, have opened a support request. Would be awesome if that "thing" could be finished finally. :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: JBert on Thu, 22 December 2016, 16:11:25
Ugh, I can't wait until the GH60 PCB arrives. My Soarer-modded Poker has been acting up a lot lately, going into never-ending key repeats or endless sleep.

Made a support request on CtrlAlt.Io and waiting desperately for updates.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 23 December 2016, 07:53:59
Just a heads up for my people.

I plan on starting shipping again the second week in January.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 23 December 2016, 08:51:57
just got the customs letters for payment of the stuff sent to me

ill pay the customs today and have them arrange delivery as soon as possible
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 27 December 2016, 11:29:19
The stuff is confirmed for delivery on Thursday, I'll post pics upon receipt


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 27 December 2016, 16:45:33
Filled up the support request

Guess I'll finally have use for that 200$ paperweight

u da man bunny
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 28 December 2016, 06:10:06
Filled up the support request

Guess I'll finally have use for that 200$ paperweight

u da man bunny

Thanks very much sir

I haven't replied to the support requests yet, once the package arrives tomorrow I'll take pics and an inventory and then work through the requests in order from there


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 29 December 2016, 04:34:41
Can confirm packages have arrived, we are short a good amount of stabs and a few plates but we will deal with that as it happens, honestly I think we have more than enough for everyone still actively waiting and we will just cross the bridge of missing stuff as and when it happens


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 29 December 2016, 04:35:32
I'll get a layout shot of everything soon for everyone but my entire shipping room is taken up with jtk stuff right now, I'll be packing that all day so should be able to clear some space and I'll start attacking gh60 support tickets tonight


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 29 December 2016, 23:26:26
Doesn't look like a whole lot, but a decent amount of progress has been made.  Packed up 13 orders and sent 10 invoices.  Will be back at it tomorrow with some confirmation emails going out and more orders to pack. 

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/672/31856301511_3d42bfba9d_h.jpg)
GH60 (https://flic.kr/p/Qx2SzM) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99522542@N03/), on Flickr

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/654/31856298631_efc8bd2dda_h.jpg)
GH60 (https://flic.kr/p/Qx2RJ8) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99522542@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 30 December 2016, 03:44:20
just replied to i believe all of the gh60 support requests and sent people details on payment for shipping etc where needed

if you reply ill be back on to check them in a few hours

i should be able to knock out everyone who requested a build option within the next week
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Fri, 30 December 2016, 04:32:30
btw bunny what do you think about sending the money as a gift on pp rather than a payment?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 30 December 2016, 04:44:19
btw bunny what do you think about sending the money as a gift on pp rather than a payment?

I'd be totally fine with it however my pp account doesn't accept gifts sadly

If for any reason you absolutely needed to send funds as a gift I could forward my wife's PayPal


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Fri, 30 December 2016, 09:33:55
btw bunny what do you think about sending the money as a gift on pp rather than a payment?

I'd be totally fine with it however my pp account doesn't accept gifts sadly

If for any reason you absolutely needed to send funds as a gift I could forward my wife's PayPal


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Yeah, I kinda thought so but figured I'd ask.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: gnubag on Fri, 30 December 2016, 13:38:47
I just received the invoice for one of my orders from Hoffman, but he says that the orders from this spreadsheet
Quote
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jkoS8UjR9ufSjokrJgz96HgO4R8IFQ7Vi1WuPvOjbjM/edit?usp=sharing
are "nowhere to be found" (roughly paraphrased).

Would it be possible to find out what happened to those?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 30 December 2016, 13:47:06
I just received the invoice for one of my orders from Hoffman, but he says that the orders from this spreadsheet
Quote
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jkoS8UjR9ufSjokrJgz96HgO4R8IFQ7Vi1WuPvOjbjM/edit?usp=sharing
are "nowhere to be found" (roughly paraphrased).

Would it be possible to find out what happened to those?

If anyone (maybe @tjcaustin or @jdcarpe ?) has a list of [original_user] -> [new_user] for those orders, that would be really helpful.  I'm hoping that the orders are at least accounted for and the proxies have the parts for them.

In this particular case, the order that gnubag took over does not appear in the spreadsheet exactly as listed, for any proxy's orders.  :-/  It may be possible that it was parted out from a larger order? 

For reference, I spot-checked three orders from the linked spreadsheet and could not find any of them in the master GH60 order spreadsheet that the proxies were sent.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 30 December 2016, 14:03:39
The spreadsheets are a total nightmare, but for anyone worried I'm sure between all us proxies we will have enough left over parts to complete anyone's order, it sucks but sit tight and once we have all cleared what is accounted for I'm sure we will be able to piece everything else together


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 30 December 2016, 14:44:09
I just received the invoice for one of my orders from Hoffman, but he says that the orders from this spreadsheet
Quote
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jkoS8UjR9ufSjokrJgz96HgO4R8IFQ7Vi1WuPvOjbjM/edit?usp=sharing
are "nowhere to be found" (roughly paraphrased).

Would it be possible to find out what happened to those?

If anyone (maybe @tjcaustin or @jdcarpe ?) has a list of [original_user] -> [new_user] for those orders, that would be really helpful.  I'm hoping that the orders are at least accounted for and the proxies have the parts for them.

In this particular case, the order that gnubag took over does not appear in the spreadsheet exactly as listed, for any proxy's orders.  :-/  It may be possible that it was parted out from a larger order? 

For reference, I spot-checked three orders from the linked spreadsheet and could not find any of them in the master GH60 order spreadsheet that the proxies were sent.

I'm fairly certain none of the orders that were taken over after original GH60 payments were collected were included in the spreadsheets we received.

I pointed this out when we started as my own order was one of those and was told we were going with the spreadsheet as is just to get things moving forward.

This has been said a few times publicly but it's a long thread so a reminder doesn't hurt.

I have a few people I'm proxying for who have provided me with their additional orders and I'm trying to get them filled as best I can.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 31 December 2016, 11:06:10
+1 for spreadsheet horribleness!

Proxies: remember to send me an e-mail if you are short an item or three.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: agor on Sun, 01 January 2017, 18:06:31
Just looked into this thread on a whim. Will shoot you a request on your site tomorrow bunnylake. Thanks for your work
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 03 January 2017, 15:41:17
hey good folks

i will begin shipping my orders next week, it wont take me long to get em cranked out, ive replied to most of the the contact forms but have a few from this week i need to go through which ill do some time in the next couple days once ive finished packing sophomore
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: txepox on Wed, 04 January 2017, 09:24:55
hey good folks

i will begin shipping my orders next week, it wont take me long to get em cranked out, ive replied to most of the the contact forms but have a few from this week i need to go through which ill do some time in the next couple days once ive finished packing sophomore

Great! Thanks for your work.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: disperse on Sat, 07 January 2017, 15:18:44
Just got my GH60! Thought I'd never see the day. Looks beautiful!

Thanks HoffmanMyster!

I think I need stabilizers and a case, any suggestions?

Edit: I have the poker plate and Cherry switches. I believe my plan was to get plate mounted cherry stabilizers. Looks like the spacebar switch is cut out for a center stabilizer also?

Edit edit: I ended up getting plate mount cherry stabilizers from switchtop.com and they worked great!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 08 January 2017, 08:20:49
hey folks

bit of a boring update but just to keep you informed, ive been grinding through the sophomore gb and its taken a couple days longer than expected, i will have concluded all packing on that tonight

so tomorrow i will go through all the support requests and reply to everyone who replied to the original ones and also respond to any new ones that have come in in the last week or 2

i will also begin packing all orders that contacted me on tuesday

thanks for your patience, sadly this arrived exactly when my gb did
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: feng on Sun, 08 January 2017, 10:12:44
Anyone knows who's handling the bare PCB orders? I ordered some bare PCBs and I need to change the shipping address.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 08 January 2017, 10:13:58
Anyone knows who's handling the bare PCB orders? I ordered some bare PCBs and I need to change the shipping address.
You said to send those to Sheraton and I believe samwisekoi did that.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 08 January 2017, 13:11:11
Anyone knows who's handling the bare PCB orders? I ordered some bare PCBs and I need to change the shipping address.
You said to send those to Sheraton and I believe samwisekoi did that.

Yup.  Long ago.  Trying to find historical tracking info now.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

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Shipments to feng c/o Sheraton and the other proxies. 

Originative Co.
c/o Sheraton Liv
1234 Pacific Park Dr. Ste. 555
Whittier CA 90601


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: polarpigs on Mon, 09 January 2017, 22:29:50
I have an assembly question...

I got a plate, but have PCB-mounted MX switches. I don't think there's really a problem with this as I think everyone got PCB switches right?

But my spacebar Cherry stab has an offset section in the middle and I have no idea how to mount this thing. If the offer points up, as it arrived, the plate pushes on it and it bows, making it useless.
If I orient the offset downwards, it rubs on the PCB making it pretty much useless.

What gives?


PS Thanks Hoffman for shipping!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Tue, 10 January 2017, 06:08:39
Suppose you'll need to get one without the offset or perhaps try a costar stab if that worked? You could bend your own as well iirc.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 10 January 2017, 16:52:55
hey good folks

i have just gone through all support and replied to everyone who had responded to me or opened a ticket

packing is about to start
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: zoidbergslo on Wed, 11 January 2017, 05:56:44
GH60 hype after 3 years
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Broadmonkey on Wed, 11 January 2017, 14:53:00
GH60 hype after 3 years

4 years is just around the corner.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: viasacra89 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 19:12:59
Was second on the original list, about to give up on this GB, my patience is nearly gone...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 19 January 2017, 02:51:15
Hey good folks, first batch is being dropped off Monday morning, on Sunday I'll reply to all support requests that have been packed to let them know they are in that group, as well as respond to any new responses or requests there

Thanks


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: NOLAnuffsaid on Fri, 20 January 2017, 18:46:24
Who's handling the CONUS orders?  I need to change my address.

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 20 January 2017, 19:10:00
Who's handling the CONUS orders?  I need to change my address.

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I don't see your username in the spreadsheet. Your forum join date is way past when ordering for this buy was over.

If you want to PM me other identifying information I will try and locate your order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: NOLAnuffsaid on Fri, 20 January 2017, 21:13:51
Who's handling the CONUS orders?  I need to change my address.

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I don't see your username in the spreadsheet. Your forum join date is way past when ordering for this buy was over.

If you want to PM me other identifying information I will try and locate your order.
Sorry I'm in the wrong topic
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 22 January 2017, 08:59:00
Jusy finished packing first batch, will notify everyone in that tonight and drop em off tomorrow as well as reply to all support requests tonight


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 23 January 2017, 05:12:30
I dropped 12 orders off this morning, but forgot to take pics, I've got 8 orders I'm planning on packing tonight and 3 custom builds to do, which I shall remember to do pics for tonight which will go out tomorrow

I started going back through support requests last night and got about 3/4 way through replies and will try finish that tonight but may not be till tomorrow depending on how late the soldering keeps me up


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Mon, 23 January 2017, 08:31:11
Much appreciated Mr Bunny.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 23 January 2017, 14:01:03
if there is anyone here who has some time on there hands and would like to help me out

im in desperate need of someone who can generate me some hex files for the various layouts people have requested for the custom builds, i dont need many but it would help me expedite this process a ton if someone could do a few for me

thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 24 January 2017, 05:36:48
I might be able to help out. Give me some easy ones :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 25 January 2017, 01:35:08
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170125/4a9463039ed3b27c6f9806b2e4302945.jpg)

Going out this morning


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: precarious on Thu, 26 January 2017, 05:46:59
does anyone want to buy out my GH60 i'm never going to receive, because i'd prefer to have a little cash instead of looking at this thread ever again :)):):)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 26 January 2017, 05:49:30
does anyone want to buy out my GH60 i'm never going to receive, because i'd prefer to have a little cash instead of looking at this thread ever again :)):):)

Why wouldn't you receive it, arent all the orders now shipping


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:53:20

does anyone want to buy out my GH60 i'm never going to receive, because i'd prefer to have a little cash instead of looking at this thread ever again :)):):)

Why wouldn't you receive it, arent all the orders now shipping


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I don't know about anyone else, but Mashby last posted in here in October (hasn't been seen since).

And I never received an invoice or email or anything from him. So, that's 1/3 of the US orders that from what I understand went dark again.

I'm at the point of selling off all the bits and bobs I've had sitting around for GH60. They've been clutter in my house for years now. if the boards show, I don't know what I'll do with them.


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:54:49

does anyone want to buy out my GH60 i'm never going to receive, because i'd prefer to have a little cash instead of looking at this thread ever again :)):):)

Why wouldn't you receive it, arent all the orders now shipping


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I don't know about anyone else, but Mashby last posted in here in October (hasn't been seen since).

And I never received an invoice or email or anything from him. So, that's 1/3 of the US orders that from what I understand went dark again.

I'm at the point of selling off all the bits and bobs I've had sitting around for GH60. They've been clutter in my house for years now. if the boards show, I don't know what I'll do with them.

If you just want your boards rather than to sell em, pm me and I'll have it taken care of



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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 26 January 2017, 15:53:27
Update: I am in the middle of moving once again, and will pick this up once I've had a chance to unpack.  I also still have quite a few un-responded emails and unpaid invoices, so if that's you, please respond.  :)  I don't want to store this stuff forever.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 26 January 2017, 16:23:40
Update: I am in the middle of moving once again, and will pick this up once I've had a chance to unpack.  I also still have quite a few un-responded emails and unpaid invoices, so if that's you, please respond.  :)  I don't want to store this stuff forever.

im in the same boat, i have a considerable amount of stuff here as im shipping everything that isnt to america, so at some point there may need to be a discussion between people as to what happens with what remains

quick update for my guys

ive shipped 19 orders and completed 3 builds for people (those 3 are included in the 19)

doesnt sound like much but ive only started this week and each order means counting otu stabs, switches, finding and checking correct plates and whatnot

i havent had a chance to reply to the tickets of the poeple ive shipped, but essentially if i sent you a message early this week saying its gonna be shipped by a specific day it has been, im gonna try go through tonight and let those people know though to confirm, ive got about 14 more orders packed today to be dropped off tomorrow, and ill be doing another batch tomorrow to be dropped off saturday

i apoligise its taken me a while to respond to some support tickets ive been neck deep finishing the jtk sophomore buy, but now all my free time will be spent being attentive to this until my share is complete
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 26 January 2017, 17:20:19
I just got new toner for my printer so I'll be resuming shipping soon as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pasph on Fri, 27 January 2017, 08:33:03
Uhm this thing still alive?
What i have to do to have my original order shipped?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Fri, 27 January 2017, 10:22:38
Uhm this thing still alive?
What i have to do to have my original order shipped?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2323159#msg2323159
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: JBert on Fri, 27 January 2017, 10:23:16
Uhm this thing still alive?
What i have to do to have my original order shipped?

Are you on the original spreadsheet or did you buy someone else's order?

If you are here since the beginning, as a European you should look at BunnyLake's GH60 shipping instructions (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2323159#msg2323159).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pasph on Fri, 27 January 2017, 10:47:01
Uhm this thing still alive?
What i have to do to have my original order shipped?

Are you on the original spreadsheet or did you buy someone else's order?

If you are here since the beginning, as a European you should look at BunnyLake's GH60 shipping instructions (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2323159#msg2323159).

On the original spreadsheet, thanks.

Uhm this thing still alive?
What i have to do to have my original order shipped?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2323159#msg2323159

Thanks.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: miscsubbin on Sat, 28 January 2017, 10:33:53
HoffmanMyster, you say you've sent out emails, but I don't think I got one. I'm not sure what email I was originally using, so I'm DMing you a current one.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 28 January 2017, 12:18:04
Quick update, everyone I messaged saying your gh60 order will be out this weekend, will actually now go out on Monday, I'm super sick and just couldn't pull it together enough to stand in the post office today but all those orders are packed and will be out Monday, after that I just have 3 more builds and one more batch of about 15 orders and then I'll be up to date with everyone who has contacted me back by I'd guess next Friday


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hoggy on Sat, 28 January 2017, 14:01:57
Sorry to hear you're I'll. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: JBert on Tue, 31 January 2017, 08:21:26
I'm super sick and just couldn't pull it together enough to stand in the post office today but all those orders are packed and will be out Monday

This group buy must be cursed!

Get well soon...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 31 January 2017, 09:08:54
I'm super sick and just couldn't pull it together enough to stand in the post office today but all those orders are packed and will be out Monday

This group buy must be cursed!

Get well soon...

No curse, just got a small kid who likes playgroups etc so I'm now prone to picking up anything that's going around

I didn't manage to ship yesterday but I'm feeling somewhat human today and my mom flew over to help me with the little man so I've had a lot more rest today so I'll be back in the grind most likely tomorrow and should be on target or close to it to have things finished by Friday


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 31 January 2017, 20:22:49
I shipped a couple orders out today, have a couple emails to reply to.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 31 January 2017, 20:27:16
HoffmanMyster, you say you've sent out emails, but I don't think I got one. I'm not sure what email I was originally using, so I'm DMing you a current one.

Just responded to your PM.  :thumb:


And to anyone else wondering, I have not sent emails to all users, as I have been tackling this in chunks.  Now that I've caught up on shipping to the initial round of people, I will be reaching out to the next group of people to confirm orders/addresses.  In the meantime, if you are an active user, please feel free to PM me to let me know you're still around, as it helps me prioritize.  It makes a lot more sense for me to send emails to people that actually still want the items in question and are ready to pay for shipping (though I certainly don't blame those that gave up / moved on from the hobby).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 February 2017, 07:41:51
Just as a way of information I want to repeat for everyone's benefit.

There are no costar stabilizers.

We current proxies are just shipping what parts we do have to try and get this group buy finished as best we can.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 02 February 2017, 03:13:49
Everyone who received a message via ctrl alt support that your gh60 was shipping last weekend in leaving now to drop it off, I'm sorry for a few extra days delay but I've been really sick, I've included some candy in the packages by way of an apology

I will then also be packing all night tonight and will be shipping everything I get done tomorrow, that will bring me very close to up to date with everyone who has contacted me with the exception of 3 custom builds which will be done this weekend


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 02 February 2017, 04:32:19
Drop off complete


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: zoidbergslo on Thu, 02 February 2017, 10:06:37
Package arrived :) Thanks for the extra switches (only one survived).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mr.bean on Thu, 02 February 2017, 16:57:07
Sorry guys, what about EU orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 02 February 2017, 16:58:14
Sorry guys, what about EU orders?

what about them good sir, ive been updating pretty constantly?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 02 February 2017, 17:01:02
Sorry guys, what about EU orders?

Bunny made a long post about how he's handling the EU orders, it's linked at the top of the OP as well: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2323159#msg2323159
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Mikelittoris on Thu, 02 February 2017, 18:35:15
At long last, the wait is finaly over! Thanks a lot everyone involved in making this happend!  :thumb:
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z479/slaktarnp90/B0F866FD-361B-4004-8D1C-D7EEC53FFAC8_zpsajm94atm.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/slaktarnp90/media/B0F866FD-361B-4004-8D1C-D7EEC53FFAC8_zpsajm94atm.jpg.html)
Now I have just got to learn how to program this beauty  :p
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Fri, 03 February 2017, 07:20:31
At long last, the wait is finaly over! Thanks a lot everyone involved in making this happend!  :thumb:
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z479/slaktarnp90/B0F866FD-361B-4004-8D1C-D7EEC53FFAC8_zpsajm94atm.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/slaktarnp90/media/B0F866FD-361B-4004-8D1C-D7EEC53FFAC8_zpsajm94atm.jpg.html)
Now I have just got to learn how to program this beauty  :p

Noice. I was planning a 7u spacebar ISO setup as well. Only thing now I need is a nice keyset, only got a spare with 1.5 mods and 6.25 spacebar.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:13:23
At long last, the wait is finaly over! Thanks a lot everyone involved in making this happend!  :thumb:
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z479/slaktarnp90/B0F866FD-361B-4004-8D1C-D7EEC53FFAC8_zpsajm94atm.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/slaktarnp90/media/B0F866FD-361B-4004-8D1C-D7EEC53FFAC8_zpsajm94atm.jpg.html)
Now I have just got to learn how to program this beauty  :p

Any issues programming it hit me up


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: reality404 on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:40:30
Thanks everyone who made this possible and especially BunnyLake for shipping this to me. (http://i.imgur.com/yejvlEj.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 04 February 2017, 07:08:53
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170204/91edb071ce98216b3044d68fb1dda1e8.jpg)

Few more about to be dropped off today

I'm a bit behind on my notifications to people so I'll be doing those tonight, lots have shipped to people I haven't let them know about over yesterday and this morning so I'll ping those folks tonight


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Sat, 04 February 2017, 10:58:32
I'm hoping I'm one of those. It's so great to see these getting to people. Cheers to the salvage teams.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: guilleguillaume on Sat, 04 February 2017, 23:56:57
It's been so many years I can't even remember what I ordered. I can't even remember last time I logged in. I think it was 4x PCB because I have a PM from someone asking me if I would sell one to him. Any Idea of how could I find what I ordered?

I thought this GB was already dead.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Dsan on Sun, 05 February 2017, 04:29:08
It's been so many years I can't even remember what I ordered. I can't even remember last time I logged in. I think it was 4x PCB because I have a PM from someone asking me if I would sell one to him. Any Idea of how could I find what I ordered?

I thought this GB was already dead.

This (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-lBJlTdauVcQHwEUY45BxDDy-QEKVCBu0oDNDG_qzRk/edit#gid=0) is really old and probably not updated but in my case accurate!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Sun, 05 February 2017, 08:33:51
It's been so many years I can't even remember what I ordered. I can't even remember last time I logged in. I think it was 4x PCB because I have a PM from someone asking me if I would sell one to him. Any Idea of how could I find what I ordered?

I thought this GB was already dead.

Paypal should have the invoices from tjcaustin can't remember if they tell exactly what you ordered but yeah, helps.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 05 February 2017, 13:41:45
if anyone could link me to a gh60 hex file for a poker iso layout that would help me a ton, its making me wanna hit my head against a wall
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 05 February 2017, 16:36:06
got the hex i needed

thanks folks

ended up doing 5 complete builds this weekend

netdevils board is next and then ill drop these 6 off, then i think just 2 more after that now going through all the support requests

im still a bit behind on support stuff but im about to start now and will hopefully get it finished before hitting bed

cheers folks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 February 2017, 05:29:13
2 more orders should ship today

I've emailed and pm'd a bunch of people on my list with no response.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: zoidbergslo on Mon, 06 February 2017, 09:47:04
Here we go. Finished GH60 pure with MX blues and SP keycaps inisde plastic poker case. Thanks to all that helped with this group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 06 February 2017, 10:52:41
Really happy that something is finally coming my way, but just curious if a decision was made about DIY orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 06 February 2017, 11:37:46
Really happy that something is finally coming my way, but just curious if a decision was made about DIY orders?

I have been waiting to see if the DIY kits are needed after all this time.  And also (well, primarily) procrastinating on dealing with that little box of evil.

However, I have now received two separate requests for info on the DIY kits.  I'll go open the box and see what it will really take to deal with.

And as always, anyone who wants to take this delightful little task off my hands is welcome to it!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 06 February 2017, 13:08:35
Really happy that something is finally coming my way, but just curious if a decision was made about DIY orders?

I have been waiting to see if the DIY kits are needed after all this time.  And also (well, primarily) procrastinating on dealing with that little box of evil.

However, I have now received two separate requests for info on the DIY kits.  I'll go open the box and see what it will really take to deal with.

And as always, anyone who wants to take this delightful little task off my hands is welcome to it!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.

samwise, are you suggesting that there may be enough left over assembled PCBs because of people who do not respond (and I suppose then never receive their order?) that they could be substituted for DIY kits to those of us with DIY orders that have responded?

If so, proxies would then need to decide at what point they give up on people responding and start subbing out the assembled PCBs from the unclaimed leftovers

From the posts I see here from proxies stating how many have not responded to their contact attempts, I guess there my be lots of leftovers?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 06 February 2017, 13:22:40
There are some leftover assembled PCBs.  Not enough to replace the original list of DIY orders, but certainly enough to replace some of them.  Enough of them to cover actual current demand?  I don't know.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Mon, 06 February 2017, 15:03:21
There are some leftover assembled PCBs.  Not enough to replace the original list of DIY orders, but certainly enough to replace some of them.  Enough of them to cover actual current demand?  I don't know.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Can you comment on mashby's absence? Is stuff gonna get shipped from him?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: ricyuyc on Mon, 06 February 2017, 22:36:20
Is there any PCB will SMD soldered left for sell?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 February 2017, 22:49:54
Is there any PCB will SMD soldered left for sell?
I know one of the members I am proxying for wants to sell his order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:45:05
Can you comment on mashby's absence? Is stuff gonna get shipped from him?

I have no knowledge about mashby.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Tue, 07 February 2017, 12:38:55
Can you comment on mashby's absence? Is stuff gonna get shipped from him?

I have no knowledge about mashby.

 - Ron | samwisekoi


Bummer.

Thank you though!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 07 February 2017, 14:05:43
Can you comment on mashby's absence? Is stuff gonna get shipped from him?

I have no knowledge about mashby.

 - Ron | samwisekoi


Bummer.

Thank you though!

i wouldnt worry about mashby, hes a super solid dude im sure his absence is time constraint related with work or something, he will show back up

and once myself and the other proxys have concluded shipping, we can look in to seeing what if any of his orders we can fullfill should he still be MIA
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:15:44
just went through and did a ton of replies and shipping notifications on the support tickets

also a huge apology to the guy who wanted a board built and i accidentally shipped it to him as a kit

im rectifying that right now 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:21:12
Can you comment on mashby's absence? Is stuff gonna get shipped from him?

I have no knowledge about mashby.

 - Ron | samwisekoi


Bummer.

Thank you though!

i wouldnt worry about mashby, hes a super solid dude im sure his absence is time constraint related with work or something, he will show back up

and once myself and the other proxys have concluded shipping, we can look in to seeing what if any of his orders we can fullfill should he still be MIA

To add to this, I'm only ~3hrs from mashby so one way or the other we will get this done eventually. I did send him an email to check on him and will reply if there is anything to add.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 07 February 2017, 22:10:39
Can you comment on mashby's absence? Is stuff gonna get shipped from him?

I have no knowledge about mashby.

 - Ron | samwisekoi


Bummer.

Thank you though!

i wouldnt worry about mashby, hes a super solid dude im sure his absence is time constraint related with work or something, he will show back up

and once myself and the other proxys have concluded shipping, we can look in to seeing what if any of his orders we can fullfill should he still be MIA

To add to this, I'm only ~3hrs from mashby so one way or the other we will get this done eventually. I did send him an email to check on him and will reply if there is anything to add.  :thumb:

I spoke to mashby a little while back, and he was absolutely swamped with work and personal issues.  If some assistance is needed, it sounds like ray can help out, but I'll also toss my name back in the bucket as able to help take on any additional work.  I am of course still working through my existing backlog but now that I'm settling in at the new place I should be able to work through what I have on my plate in a reasonable time frame.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Thu, 09 February 2017, 10:36:27
Can you comment on mashby's absence? Is stuff gonna get shipped from him?

I have no knowledge about mashby.

 - Ron | samwisekoi


Bummer.

Thank you though!

i wouldnt worry about mashby, hes a super solid dude im sure his absence is time constraint related with work or something, he will show back up

and once myself and the other proxys have concluded shipping, we can look in to seeing what if any of his orders we can fullfill should he still be MIA

To add to this, I'm only ~3hrs from mashby so one way or the other we will get this done eventually. I did send him an email to check on him and will reply if there is anything to add.  :thumb:

I spoke to mashby a little while back, and he was absolutely swamped with work and personal issues.  If some assistance is needed, it sounds like ray can help out, but I'll also toss my name back in the bucket as able to help take on any additional work.  I am of course still working through my existing backlog but now that I'm settling in at the new place I should be able to work through what I have on my plate in a reasonable time frame.  :thumb:

Thank you! I totally get having personal issues, it's just hard to get this close to the ending and have the last person go quiet :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 10 February 2017, 08:27:47
about to drop a bunch more gh60 stuff off, i believe i messaged everyone who is in this batch and said it would be going out by this friday, which it now is

ive also just been through all the other outstanding tickets and made a spread sheet of them and ill have all of those out and all complete builds out in the next drop off and then ive completed everyone who has either contacted me or replied

oh there is one person i said would be in this batch who isnt but ive just contacted that person through the support request and that will be dropped off monday
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BimboBB on Fri, 10 February 2017, 11:40:23
received my pcbs/plates.  :)


big thanks to all of you who are finishing this one off. you guys are awesome!  :thumb: 

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: multipla on Sat, 11 February 2017, 10:57:59
sorry for the stupid questions, but how do I program the keyboard?
in the OP, is the programming button (S1) actually labelled as S0 on the PCB?
how do I create layouts? for example, with the tool from the prototyping thread, how can I add letters with umlauts and special characters in general?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: nebo on Sat, 11 February 2017, 18:13:45
Does anyone know what happened to mashby? It's been a year since my hopes got refreshed and he seems to be MIA.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 11 February 2017, 18:23:05
Does anyone know what happened to mashby? It's been a year since my hopes got refreshed and he seems to be MIA.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2358023#msg2358023
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Sun, 12 February 2017, 17:47:36
I've responded to the support ticket on the site.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 02:40:18
Where can I find the latest updates on this gb?

The op looks out of date.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Mon, 13 February 2017, 02:47:34
That's an understatement. I'd recommend reading back 10 or so pages. Where is at depends on where you live I think.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 13 February 2017, 05:58:57
Where can I find the latest updates on this gb?

The op looks out of date.
@Hoffmanmyster is your proxy and he is getting shipments out as he can. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2352724.msg#2352724

For @mashby people all I know is what has been posted that he is swamped with work and personal things. I've emailed him to check on him.

For my people I'm waiting on invoices to get paid and for responses to emails and PM's. I've only got a handful of orders left.

@Bunnylake is cranking out orders and giving updates for rest of the world.

On the DIY kits @samwisekoi posted recently about those here
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2356706.msg#2356706
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 06:29:20
Where can I find the latest updates on this gb?

The op looks out of date.
@Hoffmanmyster is your proxy and he is getting shipments out as he can. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2352724.msg#2352724

For @mashby people all I know is what has been posted that he is swamped with work and personal things. I've emailed him to check on him.

For my people I'm waiting on invoices to get paid and for responses to emails and PM's. I've only got a handful of orders left.

@Bunnylake is cranking out orders and giving updates for rest of the world.

On the DIY kits @samwisekoi posted recently about those here
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2356706.msg#2356706
I don't know where I stand.
 Is there a new invoice that I'm supposed to get?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 13 February 2017, 07:56:10


Where can I find the latest updates on this gb?

The op looks out of date.
@Hoffmanmyster is your proxy and he is getting shipments out as he can. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2352724.msg#2352724

For @mashby people all I know is what has been posted that he is swamped with work and personal things. I've emailed him to check on him.

For my people I'm waiting on invoices to get paid and for responses to emails and PM's. I've only got a handful of orders left.

@Bunnylake is cranking out orders and giving updates for rest of the world.

On the DIY kits @samwisekoi posted recently about those here
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2356706.msg#2356706
I don't know where I stand.
 Is there a new invoice that I'm supposed to get?

Did you read the post I linked from @Hoffmanmyster ?

That's all anyone can tell you, he is your proxy.

I recommend you PM him and ask about your GH60 order since in the post I linked he mentioned anyone active should contact him so he can prioritize his orders.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 15 February 2017, 17:36:09
Where can I find the latest updates on this gb?

The op looks out of date.
@Hoffmanmyster is your proxy and he is getting shipments out as he can. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2352724.msg#2352724
I don't know where I stand.
 Is there a new invoice that I'm supposed to get?

I sent a shipping invoice to the email address that the confirmation email was sent to (also listed as your paypal email).  Did you receive it?  I just sent a reminder for the invoice - let me know if that doesn't go through.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 16 February 2017, 10:39:20
Where can I find the latest updates on this gb?

The op looks out of date.
@Hoffmanmyster is your proxy and he is getting shipments out as he can. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2352724.msg#2352724
I don't know where I stand.
 Is there a new invoice that I'm supposed to get?

I sent a shipping invoice to the email address that the confirmation email was sent to (also listed as your paypal email).  Did you receive it?  I just sent a reminder for the invoice - let me know if that doesn't go through.  :thumb:
Yes. I received and paid it.
Was there anything else I needed to do?
Also, let me know that your received payment.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 16 February 2017, 11:24:04
Who is my proxy?  US-based, ordered as Greystoke.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 16 February 2017, 17:55:00
Who is my proxy?  US-based, ordered as Greystoke.

Mashby is your proxy, he is currently MIA and his last correspondence was that he was covered up with work and life.

I have recently tried reaching out to him by email and have not had a reply.

I'm sure he will come up for air at some point and give an update.


As an update to my people I've reached out to everyone and the only people left are people who have not replied and/or people who chose to wait until I was done to see what was left.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 17 February 2017, 07:45:14
I sent a shipping invoice to the email address that the confirmation email was sent to (also listed as your paypal email).  Did you receive it?  I just sent a reminder for the invoice - let me know if that doesn't go through.  :thumb:
Yes. I received and paid it.
Was there anything else I needed to do?
Also, let me know that your received payment.

Got the payment!  It's been packaged up and ready to go, so I'll just print the shipping label, slap it on, and send it out.  :thumb:  Nothing else needed from you, and this should be wrapped up for you in a short while.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 17 February 2017, 13:34:44
I have faith that mashby will reappear; this group buy is cursed, i called it way back.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 17 February 2017, 19:48:01
I sent a shipping invoice to the email address that the confirmation email was sent to (also listed as your paypal email).  Did you receive it?  I just sent a reminder for the invoice - let me know if that doesn't go through.  :thumb:
Yes. I received and paid it.
Was there anything else I needed to do?
Also, let me know that your received payment.

Got the payment!  It's been packaged up and ready to go, so I'll just print the shipping label, slap it on, and send it out.  :thumb:  Nothing else needed from you, and this should be wrapped up for you in a short while.  :)
Yay! After all this time.
It's happening!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 18 February 2017, 01:30:13
dropped off a bunch more of mine yesterday

nearly complete this end

behind on updating the support tickets tho but ill get that done this weekend
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tricheboars on Mon, 20 February 2017, 11:42:49
well... ****.

here we are years later and i am about to move. i need to change my address for this. i am not sure what the status of my order is or what is going on at all. hell, i havent even logged into this site in almost 2 years. sorry i got distracted.

so SamWise is doing this now? should i reach out to him directly? any help would be appreciated.

thanks guys. keep clacking.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 20 February 2017, 12:23:24
well... ****.

here we are years later and i am about to move. i need to change my address for this. i am not sure what the status of my order is or what is going on at all. hell, i havent even logged into this site in almost 2 years. sorry i got distracted.

so SamWise is doing this now? should i reach out to him directly? any help would be appreciated.

thanks guys. keep clacking.

So either Hoff, Mashby or Spamray has your order as they are the US people in charge of shipment.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 February 2017, 12:57:29
well... ****.

here we are years later and i am about to move. i need to change my address for this. i am not sure what the status of my order is or what is going on at all. hell, i havent even logged into this site in almost 2 years. sorry i got distracted.

so SamWise is doing this now? should i reach out to him directly? any help would be appreciated.

thanks guys. keep clacking.

Technically you last posted 6 months ago but that's ok. :P

Mashby is your proxy and he is currently MIA however given his past trustworthiness and being an all around great guy I'm sure it is only a matter of time before he can come up for air and check in. Last update we have from mashby is he was covered up with real life issues much more important than keyboards.


Honestly for anyone moving for any proxy it shouldn't be an issue as we will send a paypal invoice for shipping charges you have to pay before we ship anything thus you have all the power in regards to what address we ship to as we will ship to your paypal confirmed address.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 20 February 2017, 14:34:36
well... ****.

here we are years later and i am about to move. i need to change my address for this. i am not sure what the status of my order is or what is going on at all. hell, i havent even logged into this site in almost 2 years. sorry i got distracted.

so SamWise is doing this now? should i reach out to him directly? any help would be appreciated.

thanks guys. keep clacking.

Technically you last posted 6 months ago but that's ok. :P

Mashby is your proxy and he is currently MIA however given his past trustworthiness and being an all around great guy I'm sure it is only a matter of time before he can come up for air and check in. Last update we have from mashby is he was covered up with real life issues much more important than keyboards.


Honestly for anyone moving for any proxy it shouldn't be an issue as we will send a paypal invoice for shipping charges you have to pay before we ship anything thus you have all the power in regards to what address we ship to as we will ship to your paypal confirmed address.

Have we come up with how we're going to handle the diy kits with smd components, I know the plan was to ship these separate from the other kits because there were a lot of parts. Any updates on that?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 February 2017, 15:06:00
well... ****.

here we are years later and i am about to move. i need to change my address for this. i am not sure what the status of my order is or what is going on at all. hell, i havent even logged into this site in almost 2 years. sorry i got distracted.

so SamWise is doing this now? should i reach out to him directly? any help would be appreciated.

thanks guys. keep clacking.

Technically you last posted 6 months ago but that's ok. :p

Mashby is your proxy and he is currently MIA however given his past trustworthiness and being an all around great guy I'm sure it is only a matter of time before he can come up for air and check in. Last update we have from mashby is he was covered up with real life issues much more important than keyboards.


Honestly for anyone moving for any proxy it shouldn't be an issue as we will send a paypal invoice for shipping charges you have to pay before we ship anything thus you have all the power in regards to what address we ship to as we will ship to your paypal confirmed address.

Have we come up with how we're going to handle the diy kits with smd components, I know the plan was to ship these separate from the other kits because there were a lot of parts. Any updates on that?

I believe the below quote is the latest information on the DIY kits

Really happy that something is finally coming my way, but just curious if a decision was made about DIY orders?

I have been waiting to see if the DIY kits are needed after all this time.  And also (well, primarily) procrastinating on dealing with that little box of evil.

However, I have now received two separate requests for info on the DIY kits.  I'll go open the box and see what it will really take to deal with.

And as always, anyone who wants to take this delightful little task off my hands is welcome to it!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 21 February 2017, 09:49:48
Sigh.  I didn't do that.  I will.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 21 February 2017, 14:17:58
Ok, I went and looked at this.  Lots of taped parts, so maybe I can use a ruler to cut measured lengths of (e.g.) teeny tiny diodes.  I'll try to make up a couple of kits just to see.   Shipping will be annoying because a blank PCB has to go with each kit.  Perhaps they could be shipped in Priority Mail envelopes?

If there is a person or two in the US who would actually build a DIY kit, let me know and I'll drop one in the mail.  (You have to already be on the list as a buyer, of course.)

Also, the little GH60 stickers ARE in there as well.  Those will be simplest to just drop in the mail in a regular envelope.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: odd on Tue, 21 February 2017, 16:06:21
Ok, I went and looked at this.  Lots of taped parts, so maybe I can use a ruler to cut measured lengths of (e.g.) teeny tiny diodes.  I'll try to make up a couple of kits just to see.   Shipping will be annoying because a blank PCB has to go with each kit.  Perhaps they could be shipped in Priority Mail envelopes?

If there is a person or two in the US who would actually build a DIY kit, let me know and I'll drop one in the mail.  (You have to already be on the list as a buyer, of course.)

Also, the little GH60 stickers ARE in there as well.  Those will be simplest to just drop in the mail in a regular envelope.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

I would love to build a GH60 from a DIY kit. What do you need from me to make this happen?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 22 February 2017, 17:28:00
just to let my guys know im super super behind on support tickets

including the most recent ones i now have just 13 orders left to send

tomorrow night ill tackle support tickets so i apologise to anyone who is due a reply
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: osxoep on Fri, 24 February 2017, 17:14:42
just to let my guys know im super super behind on support tickets

including the most recent ones i now have just 13 orders left to send

tomorrow night ill tackle support tickets so i apologise to anyone who is due a reply

bunny did you manage to drop off the ones you messaged about last week?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 February 2017, 17:16:01
I did, almost all went out last week but I dropped 5 of them off this morning including yours, so it will either be with you tomorrow or Monday, its first class recorded


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: osxoep on Sat, 25 February 2017, 14:03:46
I did, almost all went out last week but I dropped 5 of them off this morning including yours, so it will either be with you tomorrow or Monday, its first class recorded


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got it today :)
thanks for all your work with this GB
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 26 February 2017, 14:29:10
I did, almost all went out last week but I dropped 5 of them off this morning including yours, so it will either be with you tomorrow or Monday, its first class recorded


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got it today :)
thanks for all your work with this GB

my pleasure sir

sorry for the lack of communication on the slight delay

the trouble is once i get the kid down for the night, i only have a few hours, and if i went on and replied to all my messages etc, well id never get anything done but reply to messages

glad it arrived safe
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Korseir on Sun, 26 February 2017, 20:10:47
Will there be extras or another chance to get in on the group buy?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 26 February 2017, 20:46:24
Will there be extras or another chance to get in on the group buy?

This group buy is 4 years old. I don't think there will be another round but if you want a board check http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/gh60
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Korseir on Mon, 27 February 2017, 08:18:25
Ah thank you sir
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 15:33:06
I feel like the pcb mount 6.25 stabilizer doesn't work with the plate. The metal part of the stabilizer hits the bottom of the plate causing the mx mounts of the stabs to raise.

It's like there isn't enough clearance.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 27 February 2017, 16:33:32
I feel like the pcb mount 6.25 stabilizer doesn't work with the plate. The metal part of the stabilizer hits the bottom of the plate causing the mx mounts of the stabs to raise.

It's like there isn't enough clearance.

have you tried turning the wire over, like flipping it so the kink in the wire heads towards the pcb rather than the plate
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 21:36:33
I feel like the pcb mount 6.25 stabilizer doesn't work with the plate. The metal part of the stabilizer hits the bottom of the plate causing the mx mounts of the stabs to raise.

It's like there isn't enough clearance.

have you tried turning the wire over, like flipping it so the kink in the wire heads towards the pcb rather than the plate
I'll try
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 28 February 2017, 09:00:23
Ok, I went and looked at this.  Lots of taped parts, so maybe I can use a ruler to cut measured lengths of (e.g.) teeny tiny diodes.  I'll try to make up a couple of kits just to see.   Shipping will be annoying because a blank PCB has to go with each kit.  Perhaps they could be shipped in Priority Mail envelopes?

If there is a person or two in the US who would actually build a DIY kit, let me know and I'll drop one in the mail.  (You have to already be on the list as a buyer, of course.)

Also, the little GH60 stickers ARE in there as well.  Those will be simplest to just drop in the mail in a regular envelope.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

It's been so long I can't recall how many DIY kits I had ordered, but I believe there were more then a few. I'd be in interested in getting them if possible. In fact, given the quantity you could probably drop all the little parts in a Ziploc bag and ship me those and the boards in a small flat rate box. I originally wanted to take on another soldering challenge, but that was a few years ago, I'm still up to it again though...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 28 February 2017, 09:45:08
It's been so long I can't recall how many DIY kits I had ordered, but I believe there were more then a few. I'd be in interested in getting them if possible. In fact, given the quantity you could probably drop all the little parts in a Ziploc bag and ship me those and the boards in a small flat rate box. I originally wanted to take on another soldering challenge, but that was a few years ago, I'm still up to it again though...

You ordered qty = 8 DIY kits according to the master spreadsheet.  Please PM or e-mail me your shipping address and we'll see what we can do.

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: zoidbergslo on Tue, 28 February 2017, 09:55:15
I feel like the pcb mount 6.25 stabilizer doesn't work with the plate. The metal part of the stabilizer hits the bottom of the plate causing the mx mounts of the stabs to raise.

It's like there isn't enough clearance.

have you tried turning the wire over, like flipping it so the kink in the wire heads towards the pcb rather than the plate
I'll try

Costar stabilizer had to be turned around as well. Wire still hits that switch but it works without a problem.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 28 February 2017, 10:59:58
I feel like the pcb mount 6.25 stabilizer doesn't work with the plate. The metal part of the stabilizer hits the bottom of the plate causing the mx mounts of the stabs to raise.

It's like there isn't enough clearance.

have you tried turning the wire over, like flipping it so the kink in the wire heads towards the pcb rather than the plate
I'll try

Costar stabilizer had to be turned around as well. Wire still hits that switch but it works without a problem.
What if I use my backup plate mount cherry stabs? Do you think that could work as well?

I have multiple 2u, 6.25u, and 7u cherry stabs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: pexon on Wed, 01 March 2017, 17:39:47
I've been out of the loop and got tired of looking for updates. I tried looking at the order confirmation and its blank. How do I go about checking if my order will ever get to me or not? I noticed some people were getting stuff sent out?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 01 March 2017, 17:54:12
I've been out of the loop and got tired of looking for updates. I tried looking at the order confirmation and its blank. How do I go about checking if my order will ever get to me or not? I noticed some people were getting stuff sent out?

Hit up Bunny. He is your proxy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 03 March 2017, 14:04:00
hey folks

sorry ive had a pretty murderous week and am a bit behind here

i have 18 more orders left to ship, the same amount as i had last week still to do

i cant apologise enough for the lack of forward momentum this week

tonight ive gotten on top of all the support requests i needed to do for jtk sophomore, and tomorrow i am dedicating to the gh60 support requests and will get the last of mine wrapped up asap

i will make sure tomorrow night every single person left waiting will have a reply with a date your order will be shipped by

but as a rough guess we are talking any orders that dont need assembly by next friday and all orders with assembly by the friday after

happy zelda day
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: metafour on Fri, 03 March 2017, 19:32:10
Hoff, should everyone in your group have received a confirmation email by now? I haven't seen anything come through.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 04 March 2017, 09:38:03
Hoff, should everyone in your group have received a confirmation email by now? I haven't seen anything come through.

Nope, I haven't sat down and cranked the rest of those out yet.  I'll get yours sent out right now though.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 04 March 2017, 16:02:04
Emails sent today to the following users:

metafour
fl0w3n
Beauthegamer
Rashunaleyes
flowbish
gomez18
OddOne
gtarget
Strelok
WRXChris
Infallible
Lugoues
ApocalypseMaow
eyesmiles
bw
ninjadoc
Jorgenstein
Sai
Autolyze
Viett
registered99
spdx
Kabuks
TheFlyingRaccoon
GeorgeK
jdcarpe

If your name is in this list and you didn't receive an email, let me know.



At this point I have made contact with everyone in my proxy list, aside from the four people that took over parts of jcrouse's order (will work on piecing that together now).  If you think you should have been contacted by me and have not been, please let me know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Strelok on Sun, 05 March 2017, 03:31:46
God damn, haven't posted here in years, only logged in a couple times to check this thread and hope. Can't believe it's actually happening.

I have a problem now though... I have to a get a case.

What's everyone else going to be using? Dunno if I wanna shell out for the FJELL buy or if I like the look of the X60.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 05 March 2017, 09:44:03
God damn, haven't posted here in years, only logged in a couple times to check this thread and hope. Can't believe it's actually happening.

I have a problem now though... I have to a get a case.

What's everyone else going to be using? Dunno if I wanna shell out for the FJELL buy or if I like the look of the X60.

Unless you are in either group buy now, you can no longer enter those.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Niall on Sun, 05 March 2017, 12:00:29
ok non conus folks

Sorry, what exactly do you mean by non-conus?  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 05 March 2017, 12:01:28
ok non conus folks

Sorry, what exactly do you mean by non-conus?  :))

People who aren't conus or Canada to be specific


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 05 March 2017, 12:03:33
ok non conus folks

Sorry, what exactly do you mean by non-conus?  :))

CONUS = Continental US
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 08 March 2017, 21:19:44
Quick update for my people:
I've received quite a few responses to my emails, but have not had a chance yet to pack and invoice the orders. Work has been and will continue to be crazy and unpredictable, due to an unexpected issue that occurred. I'll get back to everyone as soon as I can - I haven't forgotten about you!  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: miscsubbin on Fri, 10 March 2017, 16:05:28
Quick update for my people:
I've received quite a few responses to my emails, but have not had a chance yet to pack and invoice the orders. Work has been and will continue to be crazy and unpredictable, due to an unexpected issue that occurred. I'll get back to everyone as soon as I can - I haven't forgotten about you!  :)

I was supposed to get an email from you, but I haven't. I've tried PMing you but my messages don't show up in my sent folder, so I'm unconvinced they're actually getting sent. Have you received any?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 10 March 2017, 16:20:14
Quick update for my people:
I've received quite a few responses to my emails, but have not had a chance yet to pack and invoice the orders. Work has been and will continue to be crazy and unpredictable, due to an unexpected issue that occurred. I'll get back to everyone as soon as I can - I haven't forgotten about you!  :)

I was supposed to get an email from you, but I haven't. I've tried PMing you but my messages don't show up in my sent folder, so I'm unconvinced they're actually getting sent. Have you received any?

You can turn on saving sent messages to sent folder in your options

You can also add yourself as a bcc in the pm if you want to see if the message sends

But by default they wouldn't be in your sent folder


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jspark on Fri, 10 March 2017, 23:01:32
I'm in the US. When I would get my GH60?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: domoaligato on Sat, 11 March 2017, 00:30:28
I'm in the US. When I would get my GH60?

your proxy is mashby please look at this...

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41464.msg2057098#msg2057098

The last heard of mashby was that he is very busy with his personal life and he has not logged on since October 05, 2016 (only 5+ months  :'( )
I am in the same group as you.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 12 March 2017, 04:10:08
to all my guys who i messaged saying your order will ship on friday

itll now be going out tomorrow morning

after that i just have 6 builds to do this week which will be dropped off on friday

i have a few people who have opened support tickets recently i still need to reply to and will do that tonight tomorrow night and then there were a handful of people i messaged a week or so ago i needed some more info from which i havent checked the replies on yet but i will be doing that tomorrow and packing those accordingly to drop off with the friday builds

thanks for everyones patience ive been doing this in between working on my sophomore buy so sorry ive been a bit scatty but we are nearly done now
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 19 March 2017, 13:54:40
got a bunch more out yesterday and will have the last of the standard orders out by tomorrow afternoon and will then update the tickets from the last week

after that i had a quick glance and there are some new tickets and replies i need to get back to, that will be done tomorrow

i was working on some complete builds late last week, ive built 5 of 8( a couple more came in), i have 3 more to do which will be done tuesday night and then i just need to program them up and i can get them dropped off

i know ive been a bit more scatty as of late but had to finish off the replacements for my sophomore gb
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Viett on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:01:31
I am trying to track down the 63 Cherry Brown switches that I ordered from 7-bit that he confirmed were sent to the group buy. Neither samwisekoi nor my proxy, HoffmanMyster, have them. I'm not sure who might as I have not deciphered every detail in this thread. Who should I be getting in touch with?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:04:24
I am trying to track down the 63 Cherry Brown switches that I ordered from 7-bit that he confirmed were sent to the group buy. Neither samwisekoi nor my proxy, HoffmanMyster, have them. I'm not sure who might as I have not deciphered every detail in this thread. Who should I be getting in touch with?

To my knowledge all switches went to tj, including the 7bit ones, and from there went to Sam, and from Sam to the proxies

I guess just trace that line back till you find the last confirmed person with them, may also be worth confirming with 7 bit who he sent them to


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 21 March 2017, 19:04:51
Quick update for my people:
I've received quite a few responses to my emails, but have not had a chance yet to pack and invoice the orders. Work has been and will continue to be crazy and unpredictable, due to an unexpected issue that occurred. I'll get back to everyone as soon as I can - I haven't forgotten about you!  :)

I was supposed to get an email from you, but I haven't. I've tried PMing you but my messages don't show up in my sent folder, so I'm unconvinced they're actually getting sent. Have you received any?

I've definitely been receiving your PMs, and have updated your shipping information and received your order confirmation.  Unfortunately, I've been absolutely slammed by work lately so just haven't had a chance to get things packed and invoiced.  That will all be coming as soon as I'm able.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: miscsubbin on Tue, 28 March 2017, 13:43:42
Quick update for my people:
I've received quite a few responses to my emails, but have not had a chance yet to pack and invoice the orders. Work has been and will continue to be crazy and unpredictable, due to an unexpected issue that occurred. I'll get back to everyone as soon as I can - I haven't forgotten about you!  :)

I was supposed to get an email from you, but I haven't. I've tried PMing you but my messages don't show up in my sent folder, so I'm unconvinced they're actually getting sent. Have you received any?

I've definitely been receiving your PMs, and have updated your shipping information and received your order confirmation.  Unfortunately, I've been absolutely slammed by work lately so just haven't had a chance to get things packed and invoiced.  That will all be coming as soon as I'm able.

No problem, just making sure I wasn't being incompetent with the messaging system.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 28 March 2017, 13:51:00
So who is handling Canadian orders? :O
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 28 March 2017, 13:54:07
So who is handling Canadian orders? :O

To my knowledge they are split across the 4 north American proxies


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 March 2017, 13:55:17
So who is handling Canadian orders? :O

@Mashby is your proxy, he is currently MIA and his last report was he was covered up with work + life etc.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 09 April 2017, 15:16:23
gonna sound like a broken record here, but once again i need to apologise

for the last 3 weeks i have made zero progress with this, the day after my last update the jtk sliders arrived to me and i was shipping those and there was alot, it has completely consumed me the last 3 weeks, i know that is nobody heres problem but i have to take care of my personal obligations before my donated time on this

that being said my lack of communication is totally unacceptable, especially to the 6 people whom i messaged saying i was going to drop of your orders 3 weeks ago and havent, not to excuse myself but merely to offer an explanation, i was just trying to focus on one thing and clear it as fast as possible so i could then take that same attack on what i have remaining here

its my wifes birthday weekend and im not around at all this evening, but tomorrow night i will contact everyone remaining on my list via their support ticket, and will work monday through through thursday evenings on getting as much cranked out as i possibly can to drop off this friday, and have everything else completed for the following week

you guys have all waited so long and im sorry to have been another slight bottleneck to this it just fell at an awkward time for me

im very much looking forward to having my house cleared of this stuff and now i have the sliders basically finished ive finally got the room again to pull everything back out and get this finished 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Sun, 09 April 2017, 20:06:07
smh
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: netdevil on Thu, 13 April 2017, 12:08:18
I appreciate your honesty Bunny. Look forward to your next update.


gonna sound like a broken record here, but once again i need to apologise

for the last 3 weeks i have made zero progress with this, the day after my last update the jtk sliders arrived to me and i was shipping those and there was alot, it has completely consumed me the last 3 weeks, i know that is nobody heres problem but i have to take care of my personal obligations before my donated time on this

that being said my lack of communication is totally unacceptable, especially to the 6 people whom i messaged saying i was going to drop of your orders 3 weeks ago and havent, not to excuse myself but merely to offer an explanation, i was just trying to focus on one thing and clear it as fast as possible so i could then take that same attack on what i have remaining here

its my wifes birthday weekend and im not around at all this evening, but tomorrow night i will contact everyone remaining on my list via their support ticket, and will work monday through through thursday evenings on getting as much cranked out as i possibly can to drop off this friday, and have everything else completed for the following week

you guys have all waited so long and im sorry to have been another slight bottleneck to this it just fell at an awkward time for me

im very much looking forward to having my house cleared of this stuff and now i have the sliders basically finished ive finally got the room again to pull everything back out and get this finished
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 13 April 2017, 23:18:14
Progress...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2914/33983551776_2f10280c8a_k.jpg)
GH60 Proxy Shipping (https://flic.kr/p/TM1zYu) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99522542@N03/), on Flickr

All orders for people that responded to my last wave of emails are now packed.  Invoices will be sent over the next week or so.  :thumb:

There are a few orders that are a bit more complicated and are being left until the end; rest assured they have not been ignored, and will be the next to get packed and invoiced.  :)

Any questions at all, let me know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 April 2017, 08:27:28
The only orders I've got left are either really big and I'm wanting to make sure I don't run out of parts, waiting on SMD parts , or haven't replied.

Most left haven't replied to correspondence.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hoggy on Fri, 14 April 2017, 08:55:12
Bunny, I'm happy to wait.  No big deal.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 14 April 2017, 09:36:01
Bunny, I'm happy to wait.  No big deal.

Appreciate it sir but not much longer, I'll have a big drop off hopefully on Tuesday if I can swing it with the baby because of the bank holidays




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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: n0rvig on Sat, 15 April 2017, 01:30:28
GL shippers. My fingers are crossed that I'm in the next batch shipping out.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: fl0w3n on Sun, 16 April 2017, 14:19:19
Progress...

Show Image
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2914/33983551776_2f10280c8a_k.jpg)

GH60 Proxy Shipping (https://flic.kr/p/TM1zYu) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99522542@N03/), on Flickr

All orders for people that responded to my last wave of emails are now packed.  Invoices will be sent over the next week or so.  :thumb:

There are a few orders that are a bit more complicated and are being left until the end; rest assured they have not been ignored, and will be the next to get packed and invoiced.  :)

Any questions at all, let me know.

Yo dawg, got an email from you back on March 3 to confirm address,  I responded confirming it.  Didn't hear anything back, I'm assuming that means we're all good?

Thanks for getting this done. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 16 April 2017, 19:15:18
Progress...

Show Image
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2914/33983551776_2f10280c8a_k.jpg)

GH60 Proxy Shipping (https://flic.kr/p/TM1zYu) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99522542@N03/), on Flickr

All orders for people that responded to my last wave of emails are now packed.  Invoices will be sent over the next week or so.  :thumb:

There are a few orders that are a bit more complicated and are being left until the end; rest assured they have not been ignored, and will be the next to get packed and invoiced.  :)

Any questions at all, let me know.

Yo dawg, got an email from you back on March 3 to confirm address,  I responded confirming it.  Didn't hear anything back, I'm assuming that means we're all good?

Thanks for getting this done.

Yep, you're good! Your order is packed, next step is for me to invoice you for shipping, then get it sent out. :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 17 April 2017, 18:09:19
Update: Still need to invoice for shipping.  Will start that when I know they will be sent out in the following few days.  I've got some long days at work this week, then out of town this coming weekend, so won't be able to get them in the mail until next week.  Keep your eyes peeled for invoices starting early next week.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: digi on Mon, 17 April 2017, 18:15:25
Update: Still need to invoice for shipping.  Will start that when I know they will be sent out in the following few days.  I've got some long days at work this week, then out of town this coming weekend, so won't be able to get them in the mail until next week.  Keep your eyes peeled for invoices starting early next week.  :thumb:

You're alright in my book Hoff!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: bernoulli on Wed, 19 April 2017, 13:41:21
Any update for those who took-over unpaid orders?

Does anyone have a copy of the original order-spreadsheet? -- the one that has since disappeared from google.docs
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 19 April 2017, 14:02:09
Any update for those who took-over unpaid orders?

Does anyone have a copy of the original order-spreadsheet? -- the one that has since disappeared from google.docs


The parts we all split up and had shipped to us are the only parts we have to send out and not all the original parts were even accounted for.

Anyone who knows for sure they are owed a GH60 group buy order but isn't currently accounted for will have to wait and see what is left after we get done.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 22 April 2017, 13:16:05
Dropped off some more orders today and will update those tickets by tomorrow, I have 8 more orders packed up and will have them out early next week and will post a list of those usernames tomorrow as well


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hoggy on Sat, 22 April 2017, 14:57:08
Sounds good, bunny!  If I'm not in that batch, I'm still happy.

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 22 April 2017, 15:05:06
Sounds good, bunny!  If I'm not in that batch, I'm still happy.

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I can remember the names off the top of my head and I'm on my mobile but if you aren't in one of the ones listed tomorrow I'll try squeeze it in for you before I get this next batch out


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: registered99 on Tue, 25 April 2017, 14:33:23
Update: Still need to invoice for shipping.  Will start that when I know they will be sent out in the following few days.  I've got some long days at work this week, then out of town this coming weekend, so won't be able to get them in the mail until next week.  Keep your eyes peeled for invoices starting early next week.  :thumb:

I've been responding to every e-mail I have gotten and no one has gotten back to me over the past year (both from this round that has been passed to HoffmanMyster and from Michael Ashby).

I sent my updated shipping address and want to confirm that it's correct before paying. Can you please reply to my e-mail?

Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 25 April 2017, 15:19:04
Update: Still need to invoice for shipping.  Will start that when I know they will be sent out in the following few days.  I've got some long days at work this week, then out of town this coming weekend, so won't be able to get them in the mail until next week.  Keep your eyes peeled for invoices starting early next week.  :thumb:

I've been responding to every e-mail I have gotten and no one has gotten back to me over the past year (both from this round that has been passed to HoffmanMyster and from Michael Ashby).

I sent my updated shipping address and want to confirm that it's correct before paying. Can you please reply to my e-mail?

Thanks

So long as your shipping information is updated on your PayPal account it should all be fine as we are printing labels through PayPal.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 25 April 2017, 21:19:14
Update: Still need to invoice for shipping.  Will start that when I know they will be sent out in the following few days.  I've got some long days at work this week, then out of town this coming weekend, so won't be able to get them in the mail until next week.  Keep your eyes peeled for invoices starting early next week.  :thumb:

I've been responding to every e-mail I have gotten and no one has gotten back to me over the past year (both from this round that has been passed to HoffmanMyster and from Michael Ashby).

I sent my updated shipping address and want to confirm that it's correct before paying. Can you please reply to my e-mail?

Thanks

Very sorry about the lack of email response.  I sent the initial wave of emails right when I was moving and wasn't able to pick it up again and actually pack the items until the last few weeks.  I opted to post updates in the thread here rather than respond to emails individually, which I now realize it not helpful for those that have stopped browsing the forum.  Sorry about that.

As for the mashby confusion, I'm not sure what's going on there.  Your name appears in my list, but may also appear in his for whatever reason.  I have the parts on hand to satisfy my orders, and can/will ship those out.  If, for some reason, you also have an order on his list, you may still receive additional emails and shipments from him.  It's very possible that through order takeovers and other various oddities with the group buy we are working with imperfect/fragmented lists. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 26 April 2017, 00:37:29
2 months ago, i got a message saying my order was "now packed and will be shipping on Friday". One month later, I was told that some batches had or were being dropped off, and that tracking information would follow. I assume that has actually happened by this point, but there was no further support saying if this was the case. Did I miss an email. I have had packages take a really long time to arrive, but in this case, i don't even know when or if to expect anything.

I have of course updated the support ticket, but feel this thread should also serve to let people know if they are the only one waiting or not.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 26 April 2017, 00:47:24
2 months ago, i got a message saying my order was "now packed and will be shipping on Friday". One month later, I was told that some batches had or were being dropped off, and that tracking information would follow. I assume that has actually happened by this point, but there was no further support saying if this was the case. Did I miss an email. I have had packages take a really long time to arrive, but in this case, i don't even know when or if to expect anything.

I have of course updated the support ticket, but feel this thread should also serve to let people know if they are the only one waiting or not.

I have posted updates in this thread and indeed one recently explaining yours

Essentially I had to take care of stuff in my personal buy first, I explained this and apologised specifically to the people I said their orders would be dropped off to, when you order goes out your support ticket will be updated, I dropped off more gh60 orders last Thursday and Friday and dropped a couple more out on Monday, however I have now got 8-10 more ready to be dropped off on Friday including the original 6 that were packed up before but didn't go out due to one of my gbs arriving

I'll update your ticket with tracking or proof of postage once yours goes out, I'd imagine Friday but I'm not at my desk with my notes to know for sure yours is in there, tonight I'll post here the list of names that are about to go out but if you pm me your support ticket number I can check yours specifically for you and reply tonight


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 26 April 2017, 00:48:46
Much appreciated, cheers.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 26 April 2017, 14:36:22
these orders are ready and going out in my next drop off

raphdu57
tobi
gruener_salat
txepox
cjhogben
nask
bvtton
alexander-procter
maurizio-bassani
agor


these are the screennames given on your ctrl alt account rather than gh

do not worry if your name isnt on that list, thats just whats going out in the next drop, and im preparing some more now
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Wed, 26 April 2017, 15:03:39
What kind of solder have you guys been using? 0.5-0.6 mm? Does it need to be a certain type, like unleaded or something?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: registered99 on Wed, 26 April 2017, 15:24:46
Very sorry about the lack of email response.  I sent the initial wave of emails right when I was moving and wasn't able to pick it up again and actually pack the items until the last few weeks.  I opted to post updates in the thread here rather than respond to emails individually, which I now realize it not helpful for those that have stopped browsing the forum.  Sorry about that.

As for the mashby confusion, I'm not sure what's going on there.  Your name appears in my list, but may also appear in his for whatever reason.  I have the parts on hand to satisfy my orders, and can/will ship those out.  If, for some reason, you also have an order on his list, you may still receive additional emails and shipments from him.  It's very possible that through order takeovers and other various oddities with the group buy we are working with imperfect/fragmented lists.

I went back, and saw that for some reason I am on both lists.

Thanks for the response here at least.

One question that I wasn't able to suss out from the responses here -- are pre-soldered SMD components still pre-soldered? I can't tell, since the updates seem to only say that assembly is not included anymore.

I sent my updated shipping address and want to confirm that it's correct before paying. Can you please reply to my e-mail?

Thanks
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 26 April 2017, 15:25:52
Very sorry about the lack of email response.  I sent the initial wave of emails right when I was moving and wasn't able to pick it up again and actually pack the items until the last few weeks.  I opted to post updates in the thread here rather than respond to emails individually, which I now realize it not helpful for those that have stopped browsing the forum.  Sorry about that.

As for the mashby confusion, I'm not sure what's going on there.  Your name appears in my list, but may also appear in his for whatever reason.  I have the parts on hand to satisfy my orders, and can/will ship those out.  If, for some reason, you also have an order on his list, you may still receive additional emails and shipments from him.  It's very possible that through order takeovers and other various oddities with the group buy we are working with imperfect/fragmented lists.

I went back, and saw that for some reason I am on both lists.

Thanks for the response here at least.

One question that I wasn't able to suss out from the responses here -- are pre-soldered SMD components still pre-soldered? I can't tell, since the updates seem to only say that assembly is not included anymore.

I sent my updated shipping address and want to confirm that it's correct before paying. Can you please reply to my e-mail?

Thanks

They are indeed


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: OddOne on Mon, 01 May 2017, 11:11:13
Update: Still need to invoice for shipping.  Will start that when I know they will be sent out in the following few days.  I've got some long days at work this week, then out of town this coming weekend, so won't be able to get them in the mail until next week.  Keep your eyes peeled for invoices starting early next week.  :thumb:

Received my GH60 and plate over the weekend!  Thank you HoffmanMyster and all others involved in salvaging this group buy.  I am glad to finally have my parts.

Now to rehone my soldering skills to build this thing...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 01 May 2017, 12:07:33
Sounds like it's time for a new round! Who has ten years or so to spare to run it?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: zoidbergslo on Mon, 01 May 2017, 18:48:36
What kind of solder have you guys been using? 0.5-0.6 mm? Does it need to be a certain type, like unleaded or something?

Use 60/40 or 63/37 unless you want to make your life difficult by using unleaded solder. As for diameter 0.5 is fine for switches.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Turbinia on Wed, 03 May 2017, 16:19:59
Have any of the people who have taken over this group buy tried contacting Mashby recently? I have read the posts, but it has been a good long while with no word.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 03 May 2017, 17:13:17
Have any of the people who have taken over this group buy tried contacting Mashby recently? I have read the posts, but it has been a good long while with no word.
I'll try again.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Nask on Wed, 03 May 2017, 18:14:41
these orders are ready and going out in my next drop off

raphdu57
tobi
gruener_salat
txepox
cjhogben
nask
bvtton
alexander-procter
maurizio-bassani
agor


these are the screennames given on your ctrl alt account rather than gh

do not worry if your name isnt on that list, thats just whats going out in the next drop, and im preparing some more now

Hello Bunnylake, glad you made a post here because you weren't replying anymore on your website/support. :)

Yay, few more days/weeks and this precious will be mine.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: agor on Thu, 04 May 2017, 12:56:21
Finally read the updates here. Should've dropped by earlier as I got a bit worries again. I appreciate that I am in the next drop off. Please post a final answer in the support ticket if you have indeed dropped it off, even if you drop it off late.
I just wanna know when to expect it and when to start worrying again.

Thanks for your open communication
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 08 May 2017, 15:56:34
Have any of the people who have taken over this group buy tried contacting Mashby recently? I have read the posts, but it has been a good long while with no word.
I'll try again.

I can't get a reply. I've tried texting, email and twitter.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Turbinia on Mon, 08 May 2017, 19:10:43
Have any of the people who have taken over this group buy tried contacting Mashby recently? I have read the posts, but it has been a good long while with no word.
I'll try again.

I can't get a reply. I've tried texting, email and twitter.

Thanks for trying. I was going to do the same, but didn't want him to get a ton of spam from random people in the group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 08 May 2017, 20:00:38
Also as an update for my group of orders I'm currently waiting to see what happens with the DIY kits as we haven't received those to ship out. Last I heard was samwisekoi was moving.

I've only got a few orders besides those and either those people haven't responded to contact or the orders are so big I'm waiting to see what's left to fulfill them.

Anyone who is on my list feel free to contact me about your status.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vorn on Tue, 09 May 2017, 03:06:48
Have any of the people who have taken over this group buy tried contacting Mashby recently? I have read the posts, but it has been a good long while with no word.
I'll try again.

I can't get a reply. I've tried texting, email and twitter.

Thanks for trying. I was going to do the same, but didn't want him to get a ton of spam from random people in the group buy.

Same boat :( Not gonna hold my breath.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: keytohopiness on Tue, 09 May 2017, 09:50:12
Sounds like it's time for a new round! Who has ten years or so to spare to run it?

Lol
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mickd on Mon, 15 May 2017, 23:22:03
Sorry BunnyLake.

When you get a chance, could you check my status, please? I don't have any open support tickets on your site (it disappeared).

But last I remember, I paid for the shipping and assembly as per your instructions in January.

Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 16 May 2017, 02:09:01
Sorry BunnyLake.

When you get a chance, could you check my status, please? I don't have any open support tickets on your site (it disappeared).

But last I remember, I paid for the shipping and assembly as per your instructions in January.

Thanks!

They shouldn't disappear, and I can search for it without a ticket number,

Might be worth making a new ticket with the info for me and then sending me a pm with the ticket number


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 16 May 2017, 02:11:14
To my guys, I'm finally completely up to date with my sophomore gb and as of this Friday my only shipping obligations will be to my last gh60 orders

Thanks for your patience with the little man I only get so much time and doing replacements and missing keys on my last gb took longer than expected

I have about 15 percent of my total orders left roughly so I'll be getting them knocked out very fast from here


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vorn on Tue, 16 May 2017, 02:15:12
To my guys, I'm finally completely up to date with my sophomore gb and as of this Friday my only shipping obligations will be to my last gh60 orders

Thanks for your patience with the little man I only get so much time and doing replacements and missing keys on my last gb took longer than expected

I have about 15 percent of my total orders left roughly so I'll be getting them knocked out very fast from here


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Well done! Wish you were handling my order  :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 16 May 2017, 02:17:36
To my guys, I'm finally completely up to date with my sophomore gb and as of this Friday my only shipping obligations will be to my last gh60 orders

Thanks for your patience with the little man I only get so much time and doing replacements and missing keys on my last gb took longer than expected

I have about 15 percent of my total orders left roughly so I'll be getting them knocked out very fast from here


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Well done! Wish you were handling my order  :(

I've been a pain to the last of my guys as well sadly, this just landed to me at an incredibly busy time where all my other obligations were coming together as well and I had to prioritise those

Will be very glad to see the end of it and reclaim some of the space in my house, I've had half of this stuff in my house for 2 years roughly now as I was waiting on the plates and stabs for over 18 months


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vorn on Tue, 16 May 2017, 02:21:55
To my guys, I'm finally completely up to date with my sophomore gb and as of this Friday my only shipping obligations will be to my last gh60 orders

Thanks for your patience with the little man I only get so much time and doing replacements and missing keys on my last gb took longer than expected

I have about 15 percent of my total orders left roughly so I'll be getting them knocked out very fast from here


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Well done! Wish you were handling my order  :(

I've been a pain to the last of my guys as well sadly, this just landed to me at an incredibly busy time where all my other obligations were coming together as well and I had to prioritise those

Will be very glad to see the end of it and reclaim some of the space in my house, I've had half of this stuff in my house for 2 years roughly now as I was waiting on the plates and stabs for over 18 months


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I'm fine with saying goodbye to the money I spent on my order, I've come to terms with it, but is that the unfortunate position of everyone on Mashby's list?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mickd on Tue, 16 May 2017, 04:35:55
Sorry BunnyLake.

When you get a chance, could you check my status, please? I don't have any open support tickets on your site (it disappeared).

But last I remember, I paid for the shipping and assembly as per your instructions in January.

Thanks!

They shouldn't disappear, and I can search for it without a ticket number,

Might be worth making a new ticket with the info for me and then sending me a pm with the ticket number


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Thanks BunnyLake.

I found the ticket from my email. I've replied to it. I think I might have been with the bunch that was originally scheduled for delivery on the Friday.

Whenever you've got the time is fine. No rush!

#2B0330DD
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 16 May 2017, 05:27:07
To my guys, I'm finally completely up to date with my sophomore gb and as of this Friday my only shipping obligations will be to my last gh60 orders

Thanks for your patience with the little man I only get so much time and doing replacements and missing keys on my last gb took longer than expected

I have about 15 percent of my total orders left roughly so I'll be getting them knocked out very fast from here


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Well done! Wish you were handling my order  :(

I've been a pain to the last of my guys as well sadly, this just landed to me at an incredibly busy time where all my other obligations were coming together as well and I had to prioritise those

Will be very glad to see the end of it and reclaim some of the space in my house, I've had half of this stuff in my house for 2 years roughly now as I was waiting on the plates and stabs for over 18 months


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I'm fine with saying goodbye to the money I spent on my order, I've come to terms with it, but is that the unfortunate position of everyone on Mashby's list?
They're isn't much we can do. As far as I know the parts for his group of orders were sent to @mashby there aren't even enough of some parts to completely fulfill our own groups much less any large stockpile of extras.

I've tried reaching out to him through various means but clearly whatever he has going on his life right now has taken precedent over coming here and giving an update or even responding to contact.

This seems to happen a lot when people commit to helping with things then life throws an unexpected curve ball and people get overwhelmed, this 'hobby' life is what must be put aside for a while.

We can only hope things clear up for him and he comes back or at least let's one of us help him and get his parts to finish fulfillment.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 16 May 2017, 05:31:57
To my guys, I'm finally completely up to date with my sophomore gb and as of this Friday my only shipping obligations will be to my last gh60 orders

Thanks for your patience with the little man I only get so much time and doing replacements and missing keys on my last gb took longer than expected

I have about 15 percent of my total orders left roughly so I'll be getting them knocked out very fast from here


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Well done! Wish you were handling my order  :(

I've been a pain to the last of my guys as well sadly, this just landed to me at an incredibly busy time where all my other obligations were coming together as well and I had to prioritise those

Will be very glad to see the end of it and reclaim some of the space in my house, I've had half of this stuff in my house for 2 years roughly now as I was waiting on the plates and stabs for over 18 months


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I'm fine with saying goodbye to the money I spent on my order, I've come to terms with it, but is that the unfortunate position of everyone on Mashby's list?
They're isn't much we can do. As far as I know the parts for his group of orders were sent to @mashby there aren't even enough of some parts to completely fulfill our own groups much less any large stockpile of extras.

I've tried reaching out to him through various means but clearly whatever he has going on his life right now has taken precedent over coming here and giving an update or even responding to contact.

This seems to happen a lot when people commit to helping with things then life throws an unexpected curve ball and people get overwhelmed, this 'hobby' life is what must be put aside for a while.

We can only hope things clear up for him and he comes back or at least let's one of us help him and get his parts to finish fulfillment.

I'm sure to the people waiting it means nothing, but mashby is a great guy, and if he isn't responding, there will be a genuine reason as to why

Whilst hopping on and providing an update in theory takes little to no time, sometimes it's easier to put something completely aside and deal with whatever is in front of you so you can attack the thing you put aside all at once when you can.

That being said, I for sure will have some extra parts, not switches or stabs, but pcbs for sure and I'm happy to forward those on to people that'll need em once I've wrapped up my guys


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vorn on Tue, 16 May 2017, 05:35:19
Thanks for the response. Beside this GB, the only other I participated in was that DSA Dolch GB that went south. All I can do is wait, and that's what I'll do :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 16 May 2017, 15:47:35
Some good news. I finally heard back from mashby and he's alive!

Slammed with life but he says tentatively he has his sights set on June for digging into his GH60 stuffs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 16 May 2017, 16:03:01
Some good news. I finally heard back from mashby and he's alive!

Slammed with life but he says tentatively he has his sights set on June for digging into his GH60 stuffs.

Thanks for your efforts in contacting him good sir


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: senter on Wed, 17 May 2017, 21:37:01
so nice
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: fl0w3n on Wed, 17 May 2017, 22:36:11
Got mine in!

Amazing to have it in my hands after all this time.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vorn on Wed, 17 May 2017, 23:53:46
Some good news. I finally heard back from mashby and he's alive!

Slammed with life but he says tentatively he has his sights set on June for digging into his GH60 stuffs.

Ah! Thanks for your efforts! So there is hope.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 21 May 2017, 13:03:44
i dropped a couple orders off this weekend but i plan to do a huge shipment in the morning as ill be going away for a few days

im going to start packing in about 5 mins and will post my progress at the end of the night
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 21 May 2017, 15:24:44
ok ive just messaged everyone whos orders im doing tonight thatll be dropped off tomorrow

and also gone through a secondary batch to let them know ill have their order out by saturday

i had a ton of personal and other gb obligations that took priority over my very limited time recently but ive caught up on all of that now and will be grinding this out until completion

sorry to anyone who hasnt had a message tonight, you can expect to be contacted this weekend and have your order in hand shortly afterwards
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 21 May 2017, 16:18:33
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170521/11dcea968f53e87105a0b525530f8d54.jpg)

Gh60 orders being dropped off in the morning


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mickd on Sun, 21 May 2017, 19:57:25
Looking good, BunnyLake. Thanks for all the hard work.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 22 May 2017, 04:38:20
To everyone who I messaged last night about shipping today, your order has shipped, I paid for tracking even if you didn't opt for that, i did say I would send you all your tracking this morning, however I won't have access to a computer until tonight and I don't wanna fight through it on my phone, so tonight you will all.have tracking added to your support tickets


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Strelok on Thu, 25 May 2017, 00:52:40
I'm beyond amazed that I actually received this four years later. Thank you so much to everyone who helped get this done.

I ordered whatever plate came with this and two sets of cherry plate mount stabilizers apparently, but I can't get the stabs into the plate. Do I need to use PCB mount stabs for this plate or something?
Never mind learned to read.
Also is https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/tree/master/keyboard/gh60 (https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/tree/master/keyboard/gh60) the programming software?
Never mind learned to Google. https://github.com/dhowland/EasyAVR/releases (https://github.com/dhowland/EasyAVR/releases)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: funkymeeba on Thu, 25 May 2017, 23:57:06
I guess I'm doomed to not see my GH60. Endless stream of dominoes falling over, crashing into each other, yelling obscenities... :(

Hope all is well with Mashby, but damn it all just the same.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 26 May 2017, 05:35:33
I guess I'm doomed to not see my GH60. Endless stream of dominoes falling over, crashing into each other, yelling obscenities... :(

Hope all is well with Mashby, but damn it all just the same.
Don't give up yet. I did hear from mashby as I posted a few posts above.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Jmneuv on Fri, 26 May 2017, 06:17:02
Ha!
Finally holding it in my hands.. is this real?
Thank you so much again for saving this, Bunnylake and all the guys along the way of reanimating the delivery.

(http://i.imgur.com/uOjFStU.jpg)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 26 May 2017, 06:27:09
Ha!
Finally holding it in my hands.. is this real?
Thank you so much again for saving this, Bunnylake

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uOjFStU.jpg)


No problem it's been a team effort, and sorry for delays on my part as I was finishing up other gbs, any issues at all shoot me a PM


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Sat, 27 May 2017, 07:15:38
I flashed the bugger but it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas?

Also you people with the hammer case, what's the white mesh for?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iAmAhab on Sun, 28 May 2017, 08:28:12
I flashed the bugger but it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas?

Also you people with the hammer case, what's the white mesh for?

What did you flash it with?

The white mesh is for insulation between the pcb and the bottom of the case.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Sun, 28 May 2017, 10:52:44
I flashed the bugger but it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas?

Also you people with the hammer case, what's the white mesh for?

What did you flash it with?

The white mesh is for insulation between the pcb and the bottom of the case.

i followed the instructions on the 1st page.

surely there's no need for insulation as the case has stand offs?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 28 May 2017, 11:01:01
I flashed the bugger but it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas?

Also you people with the hammer case, what's the white mesh for?

What did you flash it with?

The white mesh is for insulation between the pcb and the bottom of the case.

i followed the instructions on the 1st page.

surely there's no need for insulation as the case has stand offs?

I recommend using this to flash https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 28 May 2017, 14:51:50
just to let people no, im going to be away from wednesday for 8 days, so itll delay me continuing my orders for a week but once i get back i have little to no distractions in my life between then and october, which of course i plan to have this knocked out long before then, realistically id expect to have my end of this 100 percent finished by the end of june
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: txepox on Thu, 01 June 2017, 13:15:32
just to let people no, im going to be away from wednesday for 8 days, so itll delay me continuing my orders for a week but once i get back i have little to no distractions in my life between then and october, which of course i plan to have this knocked out long before then, realistically id expect to have my end of this 100 percent finished by the end of june
Hey BunnyLake,
Finally I received the package with gh60 pcb and stabs but no switches have been included and the layout of the plate isn't I selected.    :'(
I suspect that the package was accidentally interchanged by other one.
Is there any possibility for obtaining the rest of material and the correct plate?.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 01 June 2017, 13:24:54
just to let people no, im going to be away from wednesday for 8 days, so itll delay me continuing my orders for a week but once i get back i have little to no distractions in my life between then and october, which of course i plan to have this knocked out long before then, realistically id expect to have my end of this 100 percent finished by the end of june
Hey BunnyLake,
Finally I received the package with gh60 pcb and stabs but no switches have been included and the layout of the plate isn't I selected.    :'(
I suspect that the package was accidentally interchanged by other one.
Is there any possibility for obtaining the rest of material and the correct plate?.

Sorry about that, I'm away until the 8th, shoot me a pm then and we can work out what happened and get you sorted out


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Thu, 01 June 2017, 14:21:42
Any updates for the CONUS folks?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 01 June 2017, 14:28:16
Any updates for the CONUS folks?

On the SMD parts @samwisekoi was supposed to be trying to work something out. He is still packing and moving he posted elsewhere he would try to be back online around July.

I'm on hold for the rest of my orders due to not having those SMD parts and waiting on fulfilling a couple big orders to see what is left to fulfill with and honestly quite a few people just never responded to being contacted a second time.

I got in touch with @mashby the other week and he said he is going to do his best to get back in the game sometime this month (June).

@hoffmanmyster is slowly shipping things out AFAIK, he also moved and got a new job and I'm pretty sure got a gf or wife because he sold a bunch of stuff the other day and I don't know why else anyone would do that :p


so tl;dr as is typical with this buy....things are happening in spurts....we have not given up.....

 :spam: 8)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: txepox on Fri, 02 June 2017, 04:45:43

Sorry about that, I'm away until the 8th, shoot me a pm then and we can work out what happened and get you sorted out


No problem. Thanks for your work!.
In a week, I will write a pm to you.

Another question: which resistors should I use on GH60 pcb (in order to use leds)?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 02 June 2017, 21:16:46
@hoffmanmyster is slowly shipping things out AFAIK, he also moved and got a new job and I'm pretty sure got a gf or wife because he sold a bunch of stuff the other day and I don't know why else anyone would do that :p

Haha.  :))  I'm *mostly* done, just a few of the more complicated orders to go, plus a couple that are in a weird limbo state potentially waiting for DIY components.  And of course, all the people that simply haven't responded to emails or paid invoices, which I'll be sending reminders for. 

And she's currently a gf, but I sold the items on my own terms, lol.  ;)  Been needing a good downsize for awhile, it's about time I actually went through with it.  :P
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 05 June 2017, 20:00:00
Any updates for the CONUS folks?

On the SMD parts @samwisekoi was supposed to be trying to work something out. He is still packing and moving he posted elsewhere he would try to be back online around July.

I'm on hold for the rest of my orders due to not having those SMD parts and waiting on fulfilling a couple big orders to see what is left to fulfill with and honestly quite a few people just never responded to being contacted a second time.

I got in touch with @mashby the other week and he said he is going to do his best to get back in the game sometime this month (June).

@hoffmanmyster is slowly shipping things out AFAIK, he also moved and got a new job and I'm pretty sure got a gf or wife because he sold a bunch of stuff the other day and I don't know why else anyone would do that :p


so tl;dr as is typical with this buy....things are happening in spurts....we have not given up.....

 :spam: 8)

Added this information to the OP :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Mon, 05 June 2017, 22:45:14
Thanks for the heads up!
Any updates for the CONUS folks?

On the SMD parts @samwisekoi was supposed to be trying to work something out. He is still packing and moving he posted elsewhere he would try to be back online around July.

I'm on hold for the rest of my orders due to not having those SMD parts and waiting on fulfilling a couple big orders to see what is left to fulfill with and honestly quite a few people just never responded to being contacted a second time.

I got in touch with @mashby the other week and he said he is going to do his best to get back in the game sometime this month (June).

@hoffmanmyster is slowly shipping things out AFAIK, he also moved and got a new job and I'm pretty sure got a gf or wife because he sold a bunch of stuff the other day and I don't know why else anyone would do that :p


so tl;dr as is typical with this buy....things are happening in spurts....we have not given up.....

 :spam: 8)


Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: precarious on Fri, 16 June 2017, 15:54:03
I can't believe I paid for this PCB more than four years ago and still don't have it.

That's absolutely insane.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iMav on Fri, 16 June 2017, 23:16:19
I can't believe I paid for this PCB more than four years ago and still don't have it.

That's absolutely insane.

There is implied risk involved with group buys.  I've paid for several things over the years that I never received.  (including not getting MY GH60 order as of yet!)  :)

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: agor on Mon, 19 June 2017, 05:13:36
Hey sorry for replying late - I have received all of my stuff, thank you very much bunny.
Actually have the first keyboard assembled already, but I need to source some wires for my 7u spacebars.

Anyone knows if 1.2mm diameter works aswell? There arent any 1.29/16AWG options here, at least not findable

Also, is there any information about the extension board / led backlighting?



/e
btw, soldering was a bliss. had no problems whatsoever with my pcb
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: terminal_geek on Tue, 20 June 2017, 20:30:58
Received my 2 PCB's from Spamray months ago but have just now gotten around to working with them. Thanks for helping revive this GB everyone BTW.

I wannted to see what could be done since 1 of my 2 PCB was missing 3 of the designators. Being as this is my first time building a keyboard I failed to check to see if all the SMD components where in place before working on it. After getting everything soldered, mounted, and firmware flashed(default 60% layout) I noticed the '\', 'RCtrl', 'RAlt' key are all not working. After trying multiple firmware flashes nothing seemed to work. Reading through forums I read something about designators being backwards in an unrelated thread. I flipped my board over and noticed that 4 designators are missing 3 of which are to the mentioned keys. D55, D70, D67, also D50 but no switch in that location.

I know this GB has been a mess from the start pretty much and after investing the money and time waiting I just want both of my keyboards to work. Can anyone here help me out with this. Anyone have any spares of these SMD parts or know where i can purchase them individually?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Tactile on Tue, 20 June 2017, 21:20:02
Received my 2 PCB's from Spamray months ago but have just now gotten around to working with them. Thanks for helping revive this GB everyone BTW.

I wannted to see what could be done since 1 of my 2 PCB was missing 3 of the designators. Being as this is my first time building a keyboard I failed to check to see if all the SMD components where in place before working on it. After getting everything soldered, mounted, and firmware flashed(default 60% layout) I noticed the '\', 'RCtrl', 'RAlt' key are all not working. After trying multiple firmware flashes nothing seemed to work. Reading through forums I read something about designators being backwards in an unrelated thread. I flipped my board over and noticed that 4 designators are missing 3 of which are to the mentioned keys. D55, D70, D67, also D50 but no switch in that location.

I know this GB has been a mess from the start pretty much and after investing the money and time waiting I just want both of my keyboards to work. Can anyone here help me out with this. Anyone have any spares of these SMD parts or know where i can purchase them individually?

General GH60 info, including schematics, is available here (http://blog.komar.be/projects/gh60-programmable-keyboard/).

The diodes (not "designators") you need are not critical, just about any diode you could connect would work. I think the ones used are one of the "4148" family, so these (http://www.ebay.com/itm/10x-1N4148WS-General-Purpose-Power-Switching-Small-Signal-Diode-/162134823453) should work. These (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-PCS-LL4148-LL-34-1N4148-IN4148-SMD-1206-ST-SWITCHING-DIODES-SMT-/121370237993) look different but they'll do the same job. You just might prefer working with one or the other. If it would be easier you could just buy these (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-x-1N4148-Switching-Signal-Diode-High-Quality-USA-FREE-SHIPPING-/272521257204) and solder the leads to the solder pads. Just ensure the leads are insulated & don't touch anything else and it would work fine.

Diodes are polarized so be careful to have them oriented correctly before soldering.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: precarious on Tue, 20 June 2017, 22:17:29
I can't believe I paid for this PCB more than four years ago and still don't have it.

That's absolutely insane.

There is implied risk involved with group buys.  I've paid for several things over the years that I never received.  (including not getting MY GH60 order as of yet!)  :)



Yeah, I still don't understand why someone would take on such responsibility if they weren't able to follow through.

What makes this even worse, however, is that apparently whoever is presently handling my order apparently had the same sort of "problem."
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 June 2017, 22:54:25
I can't believe I paid for this PCB more than four years ago and still don't have it.

That's absolutely insane.

There is implied risk involved with group buys.  I've paid for several things over the years that I never received.  (including not getting MY GH60 order as of yet!)  :)



Yeah, I still don't understand why someone would take on such responsibility if they weren't able to follow through.

What makes this even worse, however, is that apparently whoever is presently handling my order apparently had the same sort of "problem."

I'll remind everyone 'we' myself, @hoffmanmyster, @mashby, @samwisekoi and @bunnylake (international proxy) had NOTHING to do with all the crap that went down that caused this group buy to go into a death spiral.

We (the current proxies) are simply trying to finish this long doomed group buy and are completely volunteering and get nothing in return except knowing we got some people some stuff.

Believe me I don't want these boxes of keyboard parts in my house anymore, I don't particularly like spending hours of my time trying to track people down only to have them fuss at me through PM's and emails when I'm just trying to do them a favor.

Also when we originally volunteered we thought things would get to us much quicker than they did so even this current phase in the process was delayed and that has had a trickle down effect so that life managed to get in the way for all of us as we've worked through this.

Hoffmanmyster posted just recently he's been chipping away at shipping orders and I heard from mashby (he is alive) who said he would do his best to show up this month, samwisekoi is currently moving and bunnylake has been very frequent in shipping orders on the international side of things.

I've shipped what I can to all my people who have responded to my multiple PM's and emails etc (some have yet to respond to being contacted so if you are on my proxy list and you think you should have gotten something please contact me through PM and we'll see what I can do for you)  I am currently waiting on the DIY kits as they've not been distributed to us yet.


Yes it is slow, but that is better than being completely radio silent.



Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: agor on Fri, 23 June 2017, 03:36:05
Hey Spamray and all other jump-in-organizers,

I hope I'm not only speaking for myself, but as I've written multiple times before: thank you for your giant effort. Taking over this failed Group-Buy is a major accomplishment in my eyes, because it is a f**kton of work. I understand what you have undertaken and am grateful that I finally have all my parts and hope everyone else gets theirs in due time.
After hearing nothing for such a long time I am just glad that I got some of my moneys worth, all thanks to all of you, so thank you again.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hoggy on Fri, 23 June 2017, 03:52:11
For the record, I'm grateful for the efforts poured in by the new organisers. Thanks, guys!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 23 June 2017, 06:32:53
I have my next batch packed up they just need to get dropped off and have support tickets updated, I will also this weekend make a list of every order I have outstanding and post it here so we can work through it check list style


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HannibalChew on Sun, 25 June 2017, 13:23:13
Been out the loop for so long my ctrlalt.io support ticket doesn't work anymore...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: gruener_Salat on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:03:37
How do you guys solder those switches? Just one by one?

Putting all the switches into place and turning the pcb + plate upside down seems rather difficult - would add some workflow though.
One switch at each end is still a little shaky.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Tactile on Wed, 28 June 2017, 13:46:27
How do you guys solder those switches? Just one by one?

Putting all the switches into place and turning the pcb + plate upside down seems rather difficult - would add some workflow though.
One switch at each end is still a little shaky.

This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0FSvTYlggw) should answer your questions.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: shekki on Fri, 30 June 2017, 04:10:29
Really want one of these PCBs... is the only way to get one these days via classifieds? Are there any extras by any chance? Techkeys has some in stock but I just can't bring myself to use the green one. Sorry if asking this here is inappropriate, I mean no offense. I just think this is the perfect PCB for my first (and hopefully only) build. Also the fact that the PCB was designed by the community is so appealing to me.

Nonetheless, huge props to the awesome folk who are salvaging this GB and those who waited years to receive their products.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Fri, 30 June 2017, 19:40:06
The GH60 is easily available in lots of places like ebay. There's nothing special about these ones.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: shekki on Fri, 30 June 2017, 20:01:47
The GH60 is easily available in lots of places like ebay. There's nothing special about these ones.

The Chinese clones have north facing LEDs, which I don't want. Regular GH60s have south facing LEDs but for a few switches
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: v4mp1 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 02:12:11
Can anyone update me with the status of the european (germany) shipping status?

Thanks!  ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 05 July 2017, 02:15:50
Can anyone update me with the status of the european (germany) shipping status?

Thanks!  ;)

I’m doing it and working through as fast as I can

I look after my son on my own on weekdays which for the most part eliminates those and the last few weekends I’ve had family obligations and then on free days had things like the consultation for my sons surgery, wedding anniversary and family birthdays etc fall in to place

This coming weekend is my last busy one until early September so I’ll be ramping up shipping again shortly however I did get another batch of these out last week


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: v4mp1 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 02:22:38
Thank you BunnyLake for all your effort.

In which order do you ship out? I hope not in the alphabet?  :))

Do you need any additional $ from me for shipping?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 05 July 2017, 02:30:46
Thank you BunnyLake for all your effort.

In which order do you ship out? I hope not in the alphabet?  :))

Do you need any additional $ from me for shipping?

So order wise for the most part it’s when people submitted the support request with a few exceptions which really include my ease, for instance I may print out a bunch of labels at once that say don’t require switches so I can do them all at once, or alternatively print a bunch that all include a type of switch etc

We are relatively close to completion at this point it’s maybe one or 2 solid last batches

Wrapping up the sophomore gb took way longer than I thought with replacement keys etc so my limited time kept having to be used over there but that’s not concluded and personal shipping wise I now just have this so won’t be much longer, I’m really looking forward to having the last of it out of my house

Thanks for everyone’s patience whilst we get the last of this out

Like many people here this was one of the first gbs I ever joined so I have a lot of nostalgia in seeing this one wrapped up


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: axtran on Sun, 09 July 2017, 22:46:39
The Chinese clones have north facing LEDs, which I don't want. Regular GH60s have south facing LEDs but for a few switches

The Chinese ones have a complete LED matrix, these don't, just know that... You have WASD, Poker Arrows, Fn, Esc, Caps Lock, and that's it. They're all separate, too--which is cool for a few things. RGB underlighting is possible, with some creativity and WS2812B strips.

If you want a black variant, check with Falbatech. I love mine. :) I'm fine with nothing but underlighting for my GH60 Rev. C boards, however, if I were to buy another board, I'd just pick up a Chinese PCB personally.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tricheboars on Wed, 12 July 2017, 13:42:30
bunny i just now filled out that form. sorry i havent logged onto geekhack in some time.

ive moved since this order in 2013.  i seem to have two invoices too? i guess i ordered 3 boards and a bunch of stuff.  i dont remember what type of switches i originally ordered.

sorry i was so late to this. i forgot about this until yesterday when one of my mechanicals started not working.


*** wait. since i am not CONUS was i not supposed to fill that out? i am so confused.  is it still possible for me to actually get this hardware?  i dont care about assembly i can do that myself even though i ordered it.  apparently i spent over 300$ on this?! lol.

anywho if anyone can help please let me know what to do. thanks so much for all those who stepped in. and screw whitefiredragon of course.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 July 2017, 13:47:03
bunny i just now filled out that form. sorry i havent logged onto geekhack in some time.

ive moved since this order in 2013.  i seem to have two invoices too? i guess i ordered 3 boards and a bunch of stuff.  i dont remember what type of switches i originally ordered.

sorry i was so late to this. i forgot about this until yesterday when one of my mechanicals started not working.


*** wait. since i am not CONUS was i not supposed to fill that out? i am so confused.  is it still possible for me to actually get this hardware?  i dont care about assembly i can do that myself even though i ordered it.  apparently i spent over 300$ on this?! lol.

anywho if anyone can help please let me know what to do. thanks so much for all those who stepped in. and screw whitefiredragon of course.





@bunnylake is the international proxy he doesn't have anything to do with your order

see below

well... ****.

here we are years later and i am about to move. i need to change my address for this. i am not sure what the status of my order is or what is going on at all. hell, i havent even logged into this site in almost 2 years. sorry i got distracted.

so SamWise is doing this now? should i reach out to him directly? any help would be appreciated.

thanks guys. keep clacking.

Technically you last posted 6 months ago but that's ok. :p

Mashby is your proxy and he is currently MIA however given his past trustworthiness and being an all around great guy I'm sure it is only a matter of time before he can come up for air and check in. Last update we have from mashby is he was covered up with real life issues much more important than keyboards.


Honestly for anyone moving for any proxy it shouldn't be an issue as we will send a paypal invoice for shipping charges you have to pay before we ship anything thus you have all the power in regards to what address we ship to as we will ship to your paypal confirmed address.

To add to this @Mashby was supposed to try and make a comeback last month but he is still MIA
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tricheboars on Wed, 12 July 2017, 13:51:21
so i am not too late? and we are just waiting for mashby?  ok.  when he gets back how do i let him know i moved and what i ordered? sorry if i appear to need this spelled out for me.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 12 July 2017, 13:56:42
so i am not too late? and we are just waiting for mashby?  ok.  when he gets back how do i let him know i moved and what i ordered? sorry if i appear to need this spelled out for me.

He has a speadsheet with what is listed as your order. He should have contacted you many months ago and confirmed that with you, he may or may not have everything you ordered as none of the 'takeover' orders were listed in our spreadsheets. Some parts there were not enough of and some parts were never ordered.

As far as you having moved it doesn't matter since he will send you a PayPal invoice for shipping costs and will ship to whatever your address is on file with PayPal, so just make sure it is updated on PayPal.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: precarious on Thu, 13 July 2017, 01:54:22
so i am not too late? and we are just waiting for mashby?  ok.  when he gets back how do i let him know i moved and what i ordered? sorry if i appear to need this spelled out for me.

He has a speadsheet with what is listed as your order. He should have contacted you many months ago and confirmed that with you, he may or may not have everything you ordered as none of the 'takeover' orders were listed in our spreadsheets. Some parts there were not enough of and some parts were never ordered.

As far as you having moved it doesn't matter since he will send you a PayPal invoice for shipping costs and will ship to whatever your address is on file with PayPal, so just make sure it is updated on PayPal.

One day.  Maybe.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 14 July 2017, 13:19:57
so i am not too late? and we are just waiting for mashby?  ok.  when he gets back how do i let him know i moved and what i ordered? sorry if i appear to need this spelled out for me.

He has a speadsheet with what is listed as your order. He should have contacted you many months ago and confirmed that with you, he may or may not have everything you ordered as none of the 'takeover' orders were listed in our spreadsheets. Some parts there were not enough of and some parts were never ordered.

As far as you having moved it doesn't matter since he will send you a PayPal invoice for shipping costs and will ship to whatever your address is on file with PayPal, so just make sure it is updated on PayPal.

no one has contacted me in anyway regarding this. does that mean i am SOL spam??
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 July 2017, 13:21:51
so i am not too late? and we are just waiting for mashby?  ok.  when he gets back how do i let him know i moved and what i ordered? sorry if i appear to need this spelled out for me.

He has a speadsheet with what is listed as your order. He should have contacted you many months ago and confirmed that with you, he may or may not have everything you ordered as none of the 'takeover' orders were listed in our spreadsheets. Some parts there were not enough of and some parts were never ordered.

As far as you having moved it doesn't matter since he will send you a PayPal invoice for shipping costs and will ship to whatever your address is on file with PayPal, so just make sure it is updated on PayPal.

no one has contacted me in anyway regarding this. does that mean i am SOL spam??


I don't think we are at that point just yet. I'll shoot you a PM.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 14 July 2017, 16:35:24
guys Spam is awesome if you didnt know that.

i emailed mashby my new address. lets see if that does anything.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: precarious on Fri, 21 July 2017, 16:30:31
is there any way i can get the address where the thing i bought four years ago is located so i can just maybe pick it up instead
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 21 July 2017, 16:55:11
is there any way i can get the address where the thing i bought four years ago is located so i can just maybe pick it up instead
I'd say you'd have about a 9hr (one way) drive from your address in the spreadsheet, but maybe you moved?

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Jorgenstein on Sat, 22 July 2017, 23:00:42
Can't remember the last time I posted or actively browsed (read: lurked) this forum, and apologies for rehashing what's probably been discussed somewhere in the thread. I was never contacted again about my order after initially placing it four years ago. No PM or email or anything. I'm international, Canada. Can someone explain to me whether or not I have any hope of ever receiving my order at this point or if I'm asking too late? Thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 23 July 2017, 02:40:42
Can't remember the last time I posted or actively browsed (read: lurked) this forum, and apologies for rehashing what's probably been discussed somewhere in the thread. I was never contacted again about my order after initially placing it four years ago. No PM or email or anything. I'm international, Canada. Can someone explain to me whether or not I have any hope of ever receiving my order at this point or if I'm asking too late? Thanks!
@Hoffmanmyster is your proxy, shoot him a PM

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: precarious on Sun, 23 July 2017, 03:27:11
I contacted PayPal regarding a refund concerning a purchase I made four years ago and they told me there was nothing I could do.  They referred me to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center and suggested that I make a report.

For anyone else here who paid for something more than four years ago and hasn't received it yet, I guess their advice was to simply report it to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center.

This is the website they told me to go to:  https://www.ic3.gov/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 23 July 2017, 08:22:20
I contacted PayPal regarding a refund concerning a purchase I made four years ago and they told me there was nothing I could do.  They referred me to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center and suggested that I make a report.

For anyone else here who paid for something more than four years ago and hasn't received it yet, I guess their advice was to simply report it to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center.

This is the website they told me to go to:  https://www.ic3.gov/

You are not helping,  and I for one will never volunteer to help another group buy again.

Of all the failed group buys on this forum, at least there are people trying to get this one done.

I'll  be sending out another round of emails and PM's to the few people remaining on my list and I'm done with this.

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Sun, 23 July 2017, 17:56:28
Hey don't be a jackass to the folks here trying to salvage this. I'm in the same boat as you, but I ain't going around threatening going to the FBI over a hundred odd dollars.  Its a miracle that most folks got their stuff thanks to the hard work of these volunteers.

I contacted PayPal regarding a refund concerning a purchase I made four years ago and they told me there was nothing I could do.  They referred me to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center and suggested that I make a report.

For anyone else here who paid for something more than four years ago and hasn't received it yet, I guess their advice was to simply report it to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center.

This is the website they told me to go to:  https://www.ic3.gov/
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 23 July 2017, 23:26:36
I am done proxying for this group buy and will no longer be checking this thread.

For those people waiting on SMD parts you will need to contact @samwisekoi, he never sent the parts to us and I am no longer available to receive them and send them on.

Below are the members I am proxying for and their final status.

No Response To Contact

For the first list of people below I have just sent and email and a PM stating if I do not hear from them I will assume they no longer want their order.
EDIT: I have never heard back from the below individuals.
EDIT2: I am now considering their orders abandoned.

@3rdo
@TheQsanity
@Thechemist


Partial Order Shipped

The members below have had all parts sent that were on hand and available, I never received all the parts to completely fill these orders, see top of post.

I sent final emails to all of these individuals and noted if I received a reply or not.

@wildcard (No SMD Parts Available) *reply received
@annerick (Not All Parts Available)
@do_Og@n (No SMD Parts Available)
@kdash4 (No SMD Parts Available) *reply received
@kinruan (No SMD Parts Available) *reply received
@madderoftime (No SMD Parts Available) *reply received
@danielucf (No SMD Parts Available)
@whiskytango (No SMD Parts Available) *reply received
@j2c8w6f8 (No SMD Parts Available) *reply received
@JayKthnx (No SMD Parts Available) *reply received
@orca416 *reply received



Order Fulfilled

The members below have had their orders fulfilled, I have had no contact saying their were any issues so I assume they are all good and done.

@tadbitnerdy
@Dubsgalore
@codyeatworld
@fydo
@SIfo
@RickyJ
@Turkishrambo
@chel-
@ComradeSniper
@jabar
@orlando
@thegagne
@Acetrak
@electrogeek007
@Atakp
@digitalleftovers
@engicoder
@ferociousfingerings
@gimpster
@hashbaz
@Leslieann
@modulor
@oluf
@rtos
@TheProfosist
@whiteduck
@LastAndroid
@John Fourth
@reca
@terminal_geek
@xavierblak
@durandalx
@r3dx
@JWK
@Caceous
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Jorgenstein on Mon, 24 July 2017, 11:12:24
Can't remember the last time I posted or actively browsed (read: lurked) this forum, and apologies for rehashing what's probably been discussed somewhere in the thread. I was never contacted again about my order after initially placing it four years ago. No PM or email or anything. I'm international, Canada. Can someone explain to me whether or not I have any hope of ever receiving my order at this point or if I'm asking too late? Thanks!
@Hoffmanmyster is your proxy, shoot him a PM

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk



Cool, thanks!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 24 July 2017, 23:28:23
Can't remember the last time I posted or actively browsed (read: lurked) this forum, and apologies for rehashing what's probably been discussed somewhere in the thread. I was never contacted again about my order after initially placing it four years ago. No PM or email or anything. I'm international, Canada. Can someone explain to me whether or not I have any hope of ever receiving my order at this point or if I'm asking too late? Thanks!

Hey!  I did send an email back in March, but I'm guessing that was never received for whatever reason.  I've just responded to your PM, and will be getting this whole thing wrapped up for you sooner than later.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 02 August 2017, 04:56:11
I'm looking to buy one more pcb, anyone from Europe that might have a spare pcb that wants to sell?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Nask on Thu, 03 August 2017, 06:30:53
I'm looking to buy one more pcb, anyone from Europe that might have a spare pcb that wants to sell?



You sent me a message about my PCB but as far as I know, Bunnylake didn't finish to send all PCB. :)
You might wait for an update so you would know who has received their PCB in Europe.

nask»
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 03 August 2017, 06:39:35
thanks man, I already contacted Bunny as well ;)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 03 August 2017, 06:40:22
Just chiming in while I'm here - I've sent Mashby another email. I hope he's well, and I hope he chooses to reply.

[EDIT] Sorry for posting something negative while there's a particular amount of negativity going on. But I've also seen a lot of praise for those reaponsible for fulfilling the orders of a lot of otherwise helpless situations. I'm thankful for any help people have offered!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tricheboars on Thu, 03 August 2017, 13:47:02
I contacted PayPal regarding a refund concerning a purchase I made four years ago and they told me there was nothing I could do.  They referred me to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center and suggested that I make a report.

For anyone else here who paid for something more than four years ago and hasn't received it yet, I guess their advice was to simply report it to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center.

This is the website they told me to go to:  https://www.ic3.gov/

way to be an ass when people are trying to resolve this.

you pissed of Spam who has been nothing but amazing regarding this.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mickd on Sun, 06 August 2017, 21:05:16
You did really well getting the orders out, spamray. I'm sure the people you proxied for, and many others are really glad you stepped up to help.

I'm not in your list, but I wanted to say thank you. I can only imagine how stressful it has been.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iMav on Sun, 13 August 2017, 17:34:34
I contacted PayPal regarding a refund concerning a purchase I made four years ago and they told me there was nothing I could do.  They referred me to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center and suggested that I make a report.

For anyone else here who paid for something more than four years ago and hasn't received it yet, I guess their advice was to simply report it to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center.

This is the website they told me to go to:  https://www.ic3.gov/

It's the risk you accept when you participate in a group buy.  I've paid for many things over the years that I never received (including THIS group buy).
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 16 August 2017, 14:40:34
sorry i have been terrible with updating here

here is a list of whats either ready or close to ready right now

thisusername (packed but waiting on reply as to what switches to add)
evert - missed switches packed
snoozeymon - boards built, just need to be tested, programmed and packed
bvtton - board built just need to be tested, programmed and packed
nask - board built just need to be tested, programmed and packed
mkaito - packed
raphdu57 - board built just need to be tested, programmed and packed
netdevil - boards built, tested and packed


these will all be dropped off shortly and tracking where applicable will be added to the support tickets

ive also just replied to a few support tickets that i needed answers on things for

once the above has been dropped off, ill reply to any new tickets that havent had responses yet and then with those last few this will be wrapped up my end

if your name isnt above and you are expecting something, please dont panic, these are just what i have infront of me right now
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HannibalChew on Wed, 16 August 2017, 15:17:08
Does anyone know the best way to check what i've ordered? Its been so long and i can't find a record of what switches i ordered.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: n0rvig on Thu, 31 August 2017, 01:30:06
It burns a bit when see this thread..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 31 August 2017, 01:36:05
Anyone heard back from Mashby? He doesn't reply to my emails so I've stopped trying.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 31 August 2017, 01:38:25
Anyone heard back from Mashby? He doesn't reply to my emails so I've stopped trying.

I haven’t heard from mashby but I did see him post on social media recently so hopefully will be back around shortly

For the list of people I posted above, I’m very sorry right after that posted my wife got in a really severe car accident so I’ve been dealing with that recently I’ll have the above out ASAP


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 31 August 2017, 01:42:40
Anyone heard back from Mashby? He doesn't reply to my emails so I've stopped trying.

I haven’t heard from mashby but I did see him post on social media recently so hopefully will be back around shortly

For the list of people I posted above, I’m very sorry right after that posted my wife got in a really severe car accident so I’ve been dealing with that recently I’ll have the above out ASAP

Thanks for the reply! Shame I hope your wife is okay?!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 31 August 2017, 01:51:03
Anyone heard back from Mashby? He doesn't reply to my emails so I've stopped trying.

I haven’t heard from mashby but I did see him post on social media recently so hopefully will be back around shortly

For the list of people I posted above, I’m very sorry right after that posted my wife got in a really severe car accident so I’ve been dealing with that recently I’ll have the above out ASAP

Thanks for the reply! Shame I hope your wife is okay?!

Yeah she got lucky really, medics said they are surprised she walked away, broke a few ribs etc but as she is heavily pregnant she needed a ton of monitoring and now we are home she needs a lot of looking after


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hoggy on Thu, 31 August 2017, 22:35:01
... suddenly puts keyboards into perspective.  Hope your wife recovers soon.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 08 September 2017, 07:12:21
Can't remember the last time I posted or actively browsed (read: lurked) this forum, and apologies for rehashing what's probably been discussed somewhere in the thread. I was never contacted again about my order after initially placing it four years ago. No PM or email or anything. I'm international, Canada. Can someone explain to me whether or not I have any hope of ever receiving my order at this point or if I'm asking too late? Thanks!

Hey!  I did send an email back in March, but I'm guessing that was never received for whatever reason.  I've just responded to your PM, and will be getting this whole thing wrapped up for you sooner than later.  :thumb:
But what about me Hoof... what about me  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 08 September 2017, 12:14:14
Hey!  I did send an email back in March, but I'm guessing that was never received for whatever reason.  I've just responded to your PM, and will be getting this whole thing wrapped up for you sooner than later.  :thumb:
But what about me Hoof... what about me  :-* :-* :-*

I sent an email and never heard back!  :(  Getting the cold shoulder from you, Maow.  :-[  And for some reason I completely missed you in the round of reminder emails that was sent out a couple weeks ago.  But since you've responded here, I will go ahead and get your stuff packed up and send an invoice.  :thumb:

And to anyone else wondering, I do still have a couple orders to work through, so don't be too alarmed if you haven't heard from me yet.  It's been slow progress, but progress nonetheless. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: aggiejy on Tue, 19 September 2017, 22:57:25
I've had this milled case with custom powdercoating and CC&G caps sitting here for years now waiting for GH60. Bittersweet, but finally gave up and bought a Pok3r RBG for the guts. (Also my first Silver switches... I don't hate them.)

[attach=1][attach=2][attach=3]

Green mods didn't match unfortunately... but I like simple clean things anyway:
[attach=4]

Yay!?!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 20 September 2017, 09:34:03
I've had this milled case with custom powdercoating and CC&G caps sitting here for years now waiting for GH60. Bittersweet, but finally gave up and bought a Pok3r RBG for the guts. (Also my first Silver switches... I don't hate them.)

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

Green mods didn't match unfortunately... but I like simple clean things anyway:
(Attachment Link)

Yay!?!

looks outstanding sir
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: maxmalkav on Fri, 22 September 2017, 07:11:31
Well, finally I had some time while visiting my parents to check what I received .. and instead my gorgeous ISO 150 plate I have a weird GH60 maxkeys plate with no place for a single modifier (and also a bit defective with an ugly dent in the left side), pretty useless for me.

At least the PCB is in good shape and probably I will just buy a nice universal plate from Aliexpress.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: numiru on Sun, 08 October 2017, 10:56:14
This GB is still going on? I was literally 14 years old when this started. That was when I got into keyboards. I'm in college now going on 19.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 08 October 2017, 18:27:09
This GB is still going on? I was literally 14 years old when this started. That was when I got into keyboards. I'm in college now going on 19.


You got voting rights growing up into adult-ship from being a teenager while this GB is still unfulfilled. Wow! this would be a candidate for a Guinness record of sort.  :))
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 13 October 2017, 08:48:18
finally getting a little bit more time to get back on the horse

started back on the custom builds today, trying to get any and all remaining ones knocked out in the next few days so i can ship them all in one batch with the few i currently have on hand

for all the new ones im making a little video of the build to send to its owner, here is the first one of the day

feature=youtu.be

once i have these finished ill go through and find any of the new support tickets i need to reply to and have my end all wrapped up

thanks for everyones patience and understanding whilst i dealt with some personal issues here
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 13 October 2017, 08:52:41
Well, finally I had some time while visiting my parents to check what I received .. and instead my gorgeous ISO 150 plate I have a weird GH60 maxkeys plate with no place for a single modifier (and also a bit defective with an ugly dent in the left side), pretty useless for me.

At least the PCB is in good shape and probably I will just buy a nice universal plate from Aliexpress.

i shipped your order

i just went and checked the ticket and under detailed description of what you ordered, you put gh60 plate, then in brackets iso 150, i simply missed the part in brackets when packing and thought you had ordered a gh60 layout plate, im happy to switch them out for you

as for the ugly dent and defects, they are all a bit rough and ready
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 13 October 2017, 11:48:20
Such a shame this went the way it did, It was ahead of its time. Now 60% PCBs are all over the place that are a million times better, you can a Satan GH60 on eBay for cheap (and in under a week) and i spent HUNDREDS on this group buy and never got a thing. Learning experience i guess.

It actually does make me happy to come back to geekhack and see that some people did actually get their GH60s thanks to people like Spam, Bunny, and at one point Sam. Warms the heart.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: precarious on Wed, 08 November 2017, 23:27:44
Such a shame this went the way it did, It was ahead of its time. Now 60% PCBs are all over the place that are a million times better, you can a Satan GH60 on eBay for cheap (and in under a week) and i spent HUNDREDS on this group buy and never got a thing. Learning experience i guess.

It actually does make me happy to come back to geekhack and see that some people did actually get their GH60s thanks to people like Spam, Bunny, and at one point Sam. Warms the heart.

truly a golden glod.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Wed, 15 November 2017, 22:46:02
I'm really happy to see that people got their boards, even if i'm a "little" bitter that i never saw mine.

Oh well. The world is still a better place for trying. Thanks to all the people who shipped stuff.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HannibalChew on Thu, 16 November 2017, 11:15:07
Still waiting for mine  :(
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 16 November 2017, 11:17:08
Still waiting for mine  :(


Anyone still waiting for me

I’m sorry I had a baby 2 weeks ago and it’s thrown me upside down, I did manage to finish all the builds and will flash and get them out shortly to people

I’ve sent videos of the builds to about 5 people but haven’t taken the other footage off my phone yet

Will come back with pics, vids and final update soon once I get the home life under control with the new little person


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HannibalChew on Thu, 16 November 2017, 11:19:42

Anyone still waiting for me

I’m sorry I had a baby 2 weeks ago and it’s thrown me upside down, I did manage to finish all the builds and will flash and get them out shortly to people

I’ve sent videos of the builds to about 5 people but haven’t taken the other footage off my phone yet

Will come back with pics, vids and final update soon once I get the home life under control with the new little person


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Congratulations!

My order wasn't a build, I've sent support ticket but haven't heard anything in a while.

I hope you don't lose too much sleep in the coming months!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 16 November 2017, 11:20:43

Anyone still waiting for me

I’m sorry I had a baby 2 weeks ago and it’s thrown me upside down, I did manage to finish all the builds and will flash and get them out shortly to people

I’ve sent videos of the builds to about 5 people but haven’t taken the other footage off my phone yet

Will come back with pics, vids and final update soon once I get the home life under control with the new little person


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Congratulations!

My order wasn't a build, I've sent support ticket but haven't heard anything in a while.

I hope you don't lose too much sleep in the coming months!

Shoot me a pm with the ticket number, I can’t promise I’ll get to it tonight but I’ll 100 percent reply some time this weekend if not


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:10:37
Still waiting for mine  :(


Anyone still waiting for me

I’m sorry I had a baby 2 weeks ago and it’s thrown me upside down, I did manage to finish all the builds and will flash and get them out shortly to people

I’ve sent videos of the builds to about 5 people but haven’t taken the other footage off my phone yet

Will come back with pics, vids and final update soon once I get the home life under control with the new little person


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Nah. waiting for mashby to return...Someday?

It's really frustrating to watch every other proxy complete their thing...and mashby has just kinda poofed. I'm super happy, and super greatful to everyone who's involved and helped with this project so many times....Just it's kinda the neverending feeling of stuff getting ALMOST there but just not entirely?

I know that mashby has a life, and he's still alive and functional (his blog updates) and I don't harbor any ill will, but it's just at that point where you're entirely at "WTF?!"

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 23 November 2017, 02:39:02
Still waiting for mine  :(


Anyone still waiting for me

I’m sorry I had a baby 2 weeks ago and it’s thrown me upside down, I did manage to finish all the builds and will flash and get them out shortly to people

I’ve sent videos of the builds to about 5 people but haven’t taken the other footage off my phone yet

Will come back with pics, vids and final update soon once I get the home life under control with the new little person


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Nah. waiting for mashby to return...Someday?

It's really frustrating to watch every other proxy complete their thing...and mashby has just kinda poofed. I'm super happy, and super greatful to everyone who's involved and helped with this project so many times....Just it's kinda the neverending feeling of stuff getting ALMOST there but just not entirely?

I know that mashby has a life, and he's still alive and functional (his blog updates) and I don't harbor any ill will, but it's just at that point where you're entirely at "WTF?!"

I’m gonna have some spare plates and pcbs, I didn’t have close to enough stabs for my orders sent to me so I’ve been sending them out of personal supply, same with switches but as for plates and pcbs once I’ve finished off my last few orders I’d be happy to send extras I have to people on mashbys list, I’ll post here once I’ve sent the last of mine with what I have left and I’m happy to send it to anyone still waiting for cost of shipping


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: billnye on Thu, 23 November 2017, 16:03:51
Wanted to let y'all know that I'm trying to get in contact with mashby and see if I can take over the shipping for the orders he has.

I have a 6 week break from school in December/January and believe I would be able to get all of the orders shipped during that time. I've had someone text him and I have been trying to get in touch with him on Twitter which he seems to be active on.

Really hoping this works out and that those of us remaining will be able to get our boards!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hoggy on Sat, 25 November 2017, 16:14:20
BunnyLake, Congrats!

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Tue, 28 November 2017, 14:29:53
Wanted to let y'all know that I'm trying to get in contact with mashby and see if I can take over the shipping for the orders he has.

I have a 6 week break from school in December/January and believe I would be able to get all of the orders shipped during that time. I've had someone text him and I have been trying to get in touch with him on Twitter which he seems to be active on.

Really hoping this works out and that those of us remaining will be able to get our boards!

If you want help, let me know! I've volunteered several times, but it always seems to fall on deaf ears.

I'm plenty good at counting things and putting them in boxes.

Krav
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 28 November 2017, 15:32:21
Wanted to let y'all know that I'm trying to get in contact with mashby and see if I can take over the shipping for the orders he has.

I have a 6 week break from school in December/January and believe I would be able to get all of the orders shipped during that time. I've had someone text him and I have been trying to get in touch with him on Twitter which he seems to be active on.

Really hoping this works out and that those of us remaining will be able to get our boards!

Go for it if you feel you are up to it, you'll have to get address updates and request shipping fees. but given things are separated out by region it does make things easier. Has he cut himself off from everyone though?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: billnye on Wed, 06 December 2017, 14:34:26
Turns out I won't be taking over the shipping. Mashby wants to finish it himself. He said he is going to post here soon(tm) with an update on shipping.

Hope it goes well for him.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 06 December 2017, 16:30:38
Turns out I won't be taking over the shipping. Mashby wants to finish it himself. He said he is going to post here soon(tm) with an update on shipping.

Hope it goes well for him.

Thank you for offering to help, billnye - much appreciated from everyone involved. 

Mashby is hoping to post a status update shortly; I just hope we can get this whole thing closed out sooner than later...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vorn on Tue, 09 January 2018, 03:12:19
Has Mashby been active? I know he had a lot going on towards the end of last year. Hoping to see an update in the months to come. Fingers-crossed!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 09 January 2018, 10:06:44
Has Mashby been active? I know he had a lot going on towards the end of last year. Hoping to see an update in the months to come. Fingers-crossed!!

I was in contact with him in early December; he said he was just coming out of a crazy hectic time but is committed to seeing this project through.  He expected to make a post here in the next couple weeks, but that obviously hasn't happened.  I still trust mashby and believe that he will get this wrapped up, sadly that does seem to involve some delays.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hellerbarde on Mon, 15 January 2018, 13:40:54
Hey @bunnylake! Thanks for all your efforts!

I just checked my ctrlalt account and realized I apparently never paypal'd you the money for the shipping (a year ago,... my bad...  :-[ ). My ctrlalt username == hellerbarde (same as here). Can you look into my ticket and stuff?

I hope your family is well.

Cheers,
hellerbarde
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: damorgue on Wed, 17 January 2018, 07:33:36
All hail the bunny! It looks like my part of the GB might be salvaged too.

Kind of funny to see the invoice from mid 2013. The many times I gave up on this over the years.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 17 January 2018, 07:35:01
Hey @bunnylake! Thanks for all your efforts!

I just checked my ctrlalt account and realized I apparently never paypal'd you the money for the shipping (a year ago,... my bad...  :-[ ). My ctrlalt username == hellerbarde (same as here). Can you look into my ticket and stuff?

I hope your family is well.

Cheers,
hellerbarde

All hail the bunny! It looks like my part of the GB might be salvaged too.

Kind of funny to see the invoice from mid 2013. The many times I gave up on this over the years.

ill be finished with my toxic shipping a week on saturday

after that ill get back on top of any and all outstanding tickets and cross another buy off my list

<3
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Mon, 26 February 2018, 15:25:34
Has Mashby been active? I know he had a lot going on towards the end of last year. Hoping to see an update in the months to come. Fingers-crossed!!

I was in contact with him in early December; he said he was just coming out of a crazy hectic time but is committed to seeing this project through.  He expected to make a post here in the next couple weeks, but that obviously hasn't happened.  I still trust mashby and believe that he will get this wrapped up, sadly that does seem to involve some delays.

Um....Any news?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 26 February 2018, 15:49:16
Has Mashby been active? I know he had a lot going on towards the end of last year. Hoping to see an update in the months to come. Fingers-crossed!!

I was in contact with him in early December; he said he was just coming out of a crazy hectic time but is committed to seeing this project through.  He expected to make a post here in the next couple weeks, but that obviously hasn't happened.  I still trust mashby and believe that he will get this wrapped up, sadly that does seem to involve some delays.

Um....Any news?

I haven't heard from him since making this post. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vorn on Tue, 27 February 2018, 00:00:30
Has Mashby been active? I know he had a lot going on towards the end of last year. Hoping to see an update in the months to come. Fingers-crossed!!

I was in contact with him in early December; he said he was just coming out of a crazy hectic time but is committed to seeing this project through.  He expected to make a post here in the next couple weeks, but that obviously hasn't happened.  I still trust mashby and believe that he will get this wrapped up, sadly that does seem to involve some delays.

Um....Any news?

I haven't heard from him since making this post.

Ya, I thought I'd drop him a mail last week before I said anything in here. I asked for a response as a "proof of life" but didn't get anything. I'll be pleasantly surprised if I ever receive my order, but I'm not holding my breathe.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Thu, 01 March 2018, 16:04:12
I can't manage to fit the Cherry spacebar stabilizer between the plate and pcb, are there different types of cherry stabs? The one I have looks like a Costar stab so the wire isn't straight.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 01 March 2018, 16:09:08
I can't manage to fit the Cherry spacebar stabilizer between the plate and pcb, are there different types of cherry stabs? The one I have looks like a Costar stab so the wire isn't straight.

You are probably using a bar meant for PCB mount stabs, but mounting it with plate mount inserts. If you are using Cherry plate mount stabs, you want a bar that is not bent except for the 90-degree bends on the ends.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 01 March 2018, 16:10:53
JD knows more than me, but pictures could help ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Thu, 01 March 2018, 16:52:27
I can't manage to fit the Cherry spacebar stabilizer between the plate and pcb, are there different types of cherry stabs? The one I have looks like a Costar stab so the wire isn't straight.

You are probably using a bar meant for PCB mount stabs, but mounting it with plate mount inserts. If you are using Cherry plate mount stabs, you want a bar that is not bent except for the 90-degree bends on the ends.

Dunno how that came to be, I thought I ordered a pcb mount stab set  :cool: But yeah, I guess I do need a straight sb wire.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 02 March 2018, 14:24:41
I can't manage to fit the Cherry spacebar stabilizer between the plate and pcb, are there different types of cherry stabs? The one I have looks like a Costar stab so the wire isn't straight.

You are probably using a bar meant for PCB mount stabs, but mounting it with plate mount inserts. If you are using Cherry plate mount stabs, you want a bar that is not bent except for the 90-degree bends on the ends.

Dunno how that came to be, I thought I ordered a pcb mount stab set  :cool: But yeah, I guess I do need a straight sb wire.

If I’m not mistaken, these stabs all came from Ivan’s stabilizer GB. The PCB mount stabs from that buy had an extra bend in the wire that got caught between the PCB and plate as you mentioned. I can’t remember exactly what ended up happening to resolve the issue, aside from getting a new wire or stabilizer set.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: vorn on Thu, 22 March 2018, 03:29:25
Anyone hear from Mashby recently?

[EDIT] Silly me, Mashby isn't handling my order.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Thu, 05 April 2018, 11:28:28
Alright, I'm have the worst ****ing time trying to fit the cherry plate mount spacebar stab, it literally won't fit the universal iso plate. Ya'll got any secret tips, like filing the notches or some voodoo ****.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 05 April 2018, 11:44:43
Alright, I'm have the worst ****ing time trying to fit the cherry plate mount spacebar stab, it literally won't fit the universal iso plate. Ya'll got any secret tips, like filing the notches or some voodoo ****.

If you have a bent rather than straight wire you can bend the 2 ends round a little so that the notch doesn’t interfere with the plate, it’s not ideal but will work


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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: mauri on Thu, 05 April 2018, 16:46:26
Alright, I'm have the worst ****ing time trying to fit the cherry plate mount spacebar stab, it literally won't fit the universal iso plate. Ya'll got any secret tips, like filing the notches or some voodoo ****.

If you have a bent rather than straight wire you can bend the 2 ends round a little so that the notch doesn’t interfere with the plate, it’s not ideal but will work


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah the problem was with the other black housing, right hand side which has only space for the housing and not much more. I managed to force it in the slot eventually but the tabs on the sides of the housing made it impossible to have it in the correct position. I just went ahead and desoldered everything and used the pcb mounted ones. With the POS soldering iron & solder suck I have I hope this is the last time I'll ever have to desolder a whole keyboard, what an absolute nightmare.

I thought plate mounted stabs were supposed to work with the universal plates. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.


Side note, how did the flashing work out again? I did the thing with flip in the original post and device manager now recognizes the keyboard as such but keystrokes don't go through. I did use the 0.1 version though, but still surely it should work with it as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iMav on Sun, 08 April 2018, 12:36:47
So, there's a chance I may actually get the GH60s I ordered so many moons ago??  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:44:45
So, there's a chance I may actually get the GH60s I ordered so many moons ago??  :)

it would seem that way

also hello, mr imav
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: billnye on Wed, 11 April 2018, 19:10:06
With another semester coming to an end in a few weeks, I thought I would put it out there again that I am willing to do the shipping for the orders mashby has.

If anyone has heard from his recently please let me know.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Fri, 20 April 2018, 11:39:53
So, there's a chance I may actually get the GH60s I ordered so many moons ago??  :)

Did I miss something? I too, am interested in receiving my vintage GH60. Haha.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Tue, 01 May 2018, 17:00:27
With another semester coming to an end in a few weeks, I thought I would put it out there again that I am willing to do the shipping for the orders mashby has.

If anyone has heard from his recently please let me know.

I'm volunteering my time too.

Any news?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: aggiejy on Wed, 20 June 2018, 23:40:05
 :-*
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: n0rvig on Thu, 12 July 2018, 04:07:55
Just checking in to see if Mashby or anything is here to salvage.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 07 August 2018, 15:30:53
Just checking in to update on my third of the proxy shipping.

After cleaning up a few stragglers, I'm down to one "lost" order (below) and a few "unclaimed" orders (no response from buyer - follow up messages have been sent, and eventually I will need to consider them abandoned). 

The "lost" order was originally owned by CommunistWitchDr, then sold to someone that he doesn't remember.  Does anyone remember taking over his order?  I have no idea how this transaction went down or how to track/confirm the details, so this is kind of a shot in the dark. 

If anyone was not contacted by me and believes they should have been, please let me know.  As far as I'm concerned, I am in contact with the last few people that need tending to, so if that doesn't jive with what you're expecting don't be afraid to reach out.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: jspark on Wed, 15 August 2018, 20:30:37
Is Mashby still away? I recently moved. So, I have to update my address as well.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 16 August 2018, 14:22:13
I honestly don't know how anyone can just have boxes of other people's **** around and feel like he shouldn't do anything about it or even go "oh i got too much real world **** to deal with maybe i should give this to someone else, no paypal or address update madness required". Either the boxes do not exist anymore and our stuff is gone, or they exist and are going to become resistant to soldering. The irony is that this happened with the 2 others that held the boxes forever but he ended up being worse than the others who held the parts for so long. A guy who had no red flags on geekhack before this. Just hand it to someone else or admit the parts are gone!

These PCBs are outrageously outdated now, though very easily programmable, but they hold some value due to what they are, similar to the phantom, and the plates should work on other keyboards.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 16 August 2018, 14:31:57
Like this rips off old scabs, but seriously how am I supposed to feel about this? given how much money I lost.

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Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: viasacra89 on Sun, 19 August 2018, 00:07:20
It's been 5 years, I think it's time to give up.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: domoaligato on Sun, 19 August 2018, 23:25:20
I really only want the switches and plates that were part of this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: netdevil on Fri, 24 August 2018, 11:09:21
It's been 5 years, I think it's time to give up.

Its been 5 years, I am still trying after moving from person to person each time paying them more assembly fees
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 August 2018, 11:16:39
It's been 5 years, I think it's time to give up.

Its been 5 years, I am still trying after moving from person to person each time paying them more assembly fees

I have your board it’s built just need to get it out to you

I had about as many orders to do as the other proxies combined and almost all my shipping was international

I’m like 95 percent complete but I have let a handful of orders and a couple complicated bits lag whilst I took care of some other projects I’m involved in

Totally not acceptable but that’s the state of affairs my end

So to you and the other handful of guys I’m sorry for being the bottleneck, I have a busy week coming up but the week after I’ll try get in top of wrapping up my last set of orders

I definitely don’t have enough stabs or switches for this next offer as I was sent way less than was needed to complete my orders but I will have some plates and pcbs leftover I’d be happy to send to people on mashbys order list if there is no movement there

Once I get my last few tricky bits out I’ll post something to that affect here and see what we can get going

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 26 August 2018, 20:30:07
Hey all, I wanted to offer a (semi) final update for my portion of the US proxying work.

I've coordinated shipping/pickup of the final few stragglers and now have a fair amount of keyboard hardware left in my possession.  I'm really not sure what the best thing to do with it is, so wanted to gather some input/feedback from people in this thread.  Should I start going down Mashby's list and offer the items to people there?  Give it all away?  I'm not sure what's the most "fair" or makes the most sense - my main interest here is getting keyboard things into the hands of people that have paid for said keyboard things and do not yet have them (in other words, my top choice is not to sell the items and pocket the money).

The items in question:
TypeItemQty
PCBGH606
PlatePoker4
PlateUniversal ANSI2
SwitchMX Red89
SwitchMX Brown85
SwitchMX Blue5
SwitchMX Black7
SwitchMX Green19
SwitchMX Clear65
SwitchMX Grey13
Stabilizer SetCherry Plate 6.25x3


Thanks to everyone for sticking with it through all the turmoil associated with this group buy.  :-*  I was not part of running the initial buy of course (I was a participant way back when - not sure what I'm going to do with three very outdated boards, lol), but I'm glad that a decent portion of the participants were able to see some sort of closure in the end.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 31 August 2018, 12:59:02
Hey all, I wanted to offer a (semi) final update for my portion of the US proxying work.

I've coordinated shipping/pickup of the final few stragglers and now have a fair amount of keyboard hardware left in my possession.  I'm really not sure what the best thing to do with it is, so wanted to gather some input/feedback from people in this thread.  Should I start going down Mashby's list and offer the items to people there?  Give it all away?  I'm not sure what's the most "fair" or makes the most sense - my main interest here is getting keyboard things into the hands of people that have paid for said keyboard things and do not yet have them (in other words, my top choice is not to sell the items and pocket the money).

The items in question:
TypeItemQty
PCBGH606
PlatePoker4
PlateUniversal ANSI2
SwitchMX Red89
SwitchMX Brown85
SwitchMX Blue5
SwitchMX Black7
SwitchMX Green19
SwitchMX Clear65
SwitchMX Grey13
Stabilizer SetCherry Plate 6.25x3


Thanks to everyone for sticking with it through all the turmoil associated with this group buy.  :-*  I was not part of running the initial buy of course (I was a participant way back when - not sure what I'm going to do with three very outdated boards, lol), but I'm glad that a decent portion of the participants were able to see some sort of closure in the end.  :thumb:

I think depending on how many people were in Mashby's set, some people would probably appreciate anything.

I still want justice for the 4x I ordered with 4x plates, I always will want Justice and closure for losing 250$. But I own now over 30 keyboards, there are people more deserving :) Maybe worth finding the list and getting a feel for anyone deserving of one of those 6 PCBs.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Sun, 09 September 2018, 18:53:34
Hey all, I wanted to offer a (semi) final update for my portion of the US proxying work.

I've coordinated shipping/pickup of the final fewi stragglers and now have a fair amount of keyboard hardware left in my possession.  I'm really not sure what the best thing to do with it is, so wanted to gather some input/feedback from people in this thread.  Should I start going down Mashby's list and offer the items to people there?  Give it all away?  I'm not sure what's the most "fair" or makes the most sense - my main interest here is getting keyboard things into the hands of people that have paid for said keyboard things and do not yet have them (in other words, my top choice is not to sell the items and pocket the money).

The items in question:
TypeItemQty
PCBGH606
PlatePoker4
PlateUniversal ANSI2
SwitchMX Red89
SwitchMX Brown85
SwitchMX Blue5
SwitchMX Black7
SwitchMX Green19
SwitchMX Clear65
SwitchMX Grey13
Stabilizer SetCherry Plate 6.25x3


Thanks to everyone for sticking with it through all the turmoil associated with this group buy.  :-*  I was not part of running the initial buy of course (I was a participant way back when - not sure what I'm going to do with three very outdated boards, lol), but I'm glad that a decent portion of the participants were able to see some sort of closure in the end.  :thumb:

I would truly appreciate this.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: oneproduct on Mon, 01 October 2018, 21:55:40
As someone in Mashby's list, I would also appreciate this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Wed, 03 October 2018, 09:23:31
Same here.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Wed, 03 October 2018, 09:23:53
As someone in Mashby's list, I would also appreciate this.



Same here. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 03 October 2018, 21:56:59
Hey guys, realized it's been awhile since my last post in here.  I've been passively monitoring things - a bit hectic in my personal life for the next few weeks, and will return after to wrap things up as best I can with what I have on hand.  :thumb:  Haven't forgotten about you all.  :)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Sat, 06 October 2018, 17:51:52
Hey guys, realized it's been awhile since my last post in here.  I've been passively monitoring things - a bit hectic in my personal life for the next few weeks, and will return after to wrap things up as best I can with what I have on hand.  :thumb:  Haven't forgotten about you all.  :)

Whats a few more weeks after 5 years :-D :-D.  Appreciate you taking things on!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: viasacra89 on Thu, 25 October 2018, 22:20:09
I give up, I was one of the first people to order this ****.  If mashby ever gets to mine and reads this, feel free to do whatever you want to my set.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Mon, 17 December 2018, 16:20:02
I give up, I was one of the first people to order this ****.  If mashby ever gets to mine and reads this, feel free to do whatever you want to my set.

Mashby, if you read this, he said to feel free to send his package to me with my order.  ;D
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: badcop on Fri, 08 February 2019, 09:01:38
So sorry for the necto post but..

I've been inactive for a number of years and I JUST realized I payed out for a few assembled GH60s like a lifetime ago and never got anything.  I see WFD went MIA.  Mashby was supposed to be taking care of the ConUS shipments? and he's MIA.  So I'm assuming I'm pretty much boned at this point? 

I just want to confirm, so I can move on from this **** show of a GB.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Thu, 04 April 2019, 12:53:39
So sorry for the necto post but..

I've been inactive for a number of years and I JUST realized I payed out for a few assembled GH60s like a lifetime ago and never got anything.  I see WFD went MIA.  Mashby was supposed to be taking care of the ConUS shipments? and he's MIA.  So I'm assuming I'm pretty much boned at this point? 

I just want to confirm, so I can move on from this **** show of a GB.

No prob bro, there are still a good handful of hopefuls... any updates @hoffmanmyster?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Thu, 04 April 2019, 14:53:29
Lol yeah, there are a handful of us hopefuls still lurking :-)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 04 April 2019, 15:25:23
So sorry for the necto post but..

I've been inactive for a number of years and I JUST realized I payed out for a few assembled GH60s like a lifetime ago and never got anything.  I see WFD went MIA.  Mashby was supposed to be taking care of the ConUS shipments? and he's MIA.  So I'm assuming I'm pretty much boned at this point? 

I just want to confirm, so I can move on from this **** show of a GB.

No prob bro, there are still a good handful of hopefuls... any updates @hoffmanmyster?

Still no word from mashby, sadly.  :|  I do still have extras as I mentioned last year, and am hoping to return to this in the near future.  Last summer and fall were pretty busy for me (wedding and all that), and I simply didn't have the bandwidth to make progress on this or any other keyboard project.  I feel terrible about that and want to get whatever I can wrapped up sooner than later, and appreciate everyone's patience.  It's been an interesting ride for all of us. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Fri, 05 April 2019, 09:21:53
So sorry for the necto post but..

I've been inactive for a number of years and I JUST realized I payed out for a few assembled GH60s like a lifetime ago and never got anything.  I see WFD went MIA.  Mashby was supposed to be taking care of the ConUS shipments? and he's MIA.  So I'm assuming I'm pretty much boned at this point? 

I just want to confirm, so I can move on from this **** show of a GB.

No prob bro, there are still a good handful of hopefuls... any updates @hoffmanmyster?

Still no word from mashby, sadly.  :|  I do still have extras as I mentioned last year, and am hoping to return to this in the near future.  Last summer and fall were pretty busy for me (wedding and all that), and I simply didn't have the bandwidth to make progress on this or any other keyboard project.  I feel terrible about that and want to get whatever I can wrapped up sooner than later, and appreciate everyone's patience.  It's been an interesting ride for all of us. 

Thanks for the update! It really does mean something, considering the journey this has taken. I'll check in, in a couple weeks again haha.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Tue, 16 April 2019, 16:27:57
So sorry for the necto post but..

I've been inactive for a number of years and I JUST realized I payed out for a few assembled GH60s like a lifetime ago and never got anything.  I see WFD went MIA.  Mashby was supposed to be taking care of the ConUS shipments? and he's MIA.  So I'm assuming I'm pretty much boned at this point? 

I just want to confirm, so I can move on from this **** show of a GB.

No prob bro, there are still a good handful of hopefuls... any updates @hoffmanmyster?

Still no word from mashby, sadly.  :|  I do still have extras as I mentioned last year, and am hoping to return to this in the near future.  Last summer and fall were pretty busy for me (wedding and all that), and I simply didn't have the bandwidth to make progress on this or any other keyboard project.  I feel terrible about that and want to get whatever I can wrapped up sooner than later, and appreciate everyone's patience.  It's been an interesting ride for all of us. 

Thanks for the update! It really does mean something, considering the journey this has taken. I'll check in, in a couple weeks again haha.

Same here!  Keeping the hope alive!!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iMav on Fri, 30 August 2019, 19:29:06
Is there a copy of the original GB order?  I know I bought a few pre-assembled ones and never received anything either. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 16 September 2019, 15:53:34
Is there a copy of the original GB order?  I know I bought a few pre-assembled ones and never received anything either.

There is a copy, but it contains a lot of personal info so I won't link it here.  You purchased 3 PCBs and ANSI 1.5x plates, assembled with an assortment of switches.  Your order was in mashby's grouping, which has still not been fulfilled (I haven't heard from him since the last time he responded saying he wanted to finish this up himself rather than have billnye take it over). 


I still owe everyone here an update about what I have left over so we can at least get some of you fine people your orders...  :-[ 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: netdevil on Mon, 16 September 2019, 18:31:01
Still waiting on my order. 6 years and 2 persons that i paid assembly fees to later......
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 16 September 2019, 18:43:08
It was 6 years already? Not a surprise that GH's popularity is declining.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 16 September 2019, 21:48:02
Still waiting on my order. 6 years and 2 persons that i paid assembly fees to later......

Looks like you were in the Europe group, which I believe was handled by bunnylake?  Did you ever hear from him or anyone else about it?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:22:12
No better day to raise from the grave... any updates?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: billnye on Thu, 31 October 2019, 20:46:53
Once again I will offer to do the shipping for this group buy over my winter break. I will be back home doing an internship between December and March and would gladly ship the orders that mashby has. This is my last year of undergrad, so this is probably the last chance I will have a block of time that I can confidently volunteer my time.

Seems weird to say it was almost two years ago the first time I offered to take over the shipping from mashby :)). He's active on twitter if anyone wants to reach out and try to get in touch with him.

https://twitter.com/mashby
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 01 November 2019, 15:23:13
Once again I will offer to do the shipping for this group buy over my winter break. I will be back home doing an internship between December and March and would gladly ship the orders that mashby has. This is my last year of undergrad, so this is probably the last chance I will have a block of time that I can confidently volunteer my time.

Seems weird to say it was almost two years ago the first time I offered to take over the shipping from mashby :)). He's active on twitter if anyone wants to reach out and try to get in touch with him.

https://twitter.com/mashby

billnye - thank you so much for your generous offer.  I will reach out to mashby by any means I have available and ask that he take you up on this.  It's high time that the remaining participants get the parts they've been waiting years for.  **** happens, things fall through the cracks, and it sucks to admit it - at some point it's time to call in some help.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iMav on Wed, 27 November 2019, 12:00:01
Once again I will offer to do the shipping for this group buy over my winter break.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 06 December 2019, 11:50:38
Once again I will offer to do the shipping for this group buy over my winter break. I will be back home doing an internship between December and March and would gladly ship the orders that mashby has. This is my last year of undergrad, so this is probably the last chance I will have a block of time that I can confidently volunteer my time.

Seems weird to say it was almost two years ago the first time I offered to take over the shipping from mashby :)). He's active on twitter if anyone wants to reach out and try to get in touch with him.

https://twitter.com/mashby

billnye - thank you so much for your generous offer.  I will reach out to mashby by any means I have available and ask that he take you up on this.  It's high time that the remaining participants get the parts they've been waiting years for.  **** happens, things fall through the cracks, and it sucks to admit it - at some point it's time to call in some help.

No response.  :( 

I haven't forgotten about my promise to dig through my leftover parts from proxying, by the way.  I just moved house once again (hopefully for the last time!) and am still settling in.  Once that's all wrapped up, I will be cataloging what I do still have and offering it up here as an attempt to at least sort of almost make things right with those who have been proxy-neglected thus far. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: rknize on Thu, 30 January 2020, 21:20:19
Would be nice to get at least one PCB/plate.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 05 February 2020, 00:02:02
Would be nice to get at least one PCB/plate.

I still have several pcbs and plates (mostly universal ansi)
Let me know if you are interested to take them off my hands for the original price + shipping.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Fri, 28 February 2020, 14:44:21
any movement?

Once again I will offer to do the shipping for this group buy over my winter break. I will be back home doing an internship between December and March and would gladly ship the orders that mashby has. This is my last year of undergrad, so this is probably the last chance I will have a block of time that I can confidently volunteer my time.

Seems weird to say it was almost two years ago the first time I offered to take over the shipping from mashby :)). He's active on twitter if anyone wants to reach out and try to get in touch with him.

https://twitter.com/mashby

billnye - thank you so much for your generous offer.  I will reach out to mashby by any means I have available and ask that he take you up on this.  It's high time that the remaining participants get the parts they've been waiting years for.  **** happens, things fall through the cracks, and it sucks to admit it - at some point it's time to call in some help.

No response.  :( 

I haven't forgotten about my promise to dig through my leftover parts from proxying, by the way.  I just moved house once again (hopefully for the last time!) and am still settling in.  Once that's all wrapped up, I will be cataloging what I do still have and offering it up here as an attempt to at least sort of almost make things right with those who have been proxy-neglected thus far. 

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: billnye on Sun, 24 May 2020, 21:02:03
I'm moving in July and won't be near mashby anymore to be able to pick up the boards and do the shipping. This is the last time that I can offer to finish his part of the shipping myself. If anyone has heard from him recently or knows how to contact him, please let me know and I am more than happy wrap up this group buy.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 01:06:52
Still holding out hope!  7+ years and counting!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Sotongball21 on Mon, 08 June 2020, 03:15:18
Still holding on to hope too... Anyone has any updates for international orders?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: netdevil on Thu, 25 June 2020, 23:40:43
It has been 7 years. I keep getting passed from person to person ( last person bunnylake) Am I ever getting the GH60 i paid USD 250++ for ?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: aggiejy on Fri, 26 June 2020, 15:00:06
Unlikely I'd say. I'm in the same boat... pretty sure it's a write off at this point.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: korne on Tue, 30 June 2020, 21:30:16
I paid in 2013 for the following items...

-2x PCB (SMD presoldered) - $30
-2x bare PCB
- 1 universal ISO
- 1 universal ANSI
- 1x Cherry (PCB-mounted) stabilizers
- 1x Cherry (Plate-mounted) stabilizers

Never received them, what can i do, who should i contact. After several years i lost my hope, but i want what i paid for...
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 01 July 2020, 11:42:31
Still holding on to hope too... Anyone has any updates for international orders?
It has been 7 years. I keep getting passed from person to person ( last person bunnylake) Am I ever getting the GH60 i paid USD 250++ for ?
I paid in 2013 for the following items...
<snip>
Never received them, what can i do, who should i contact. After several years i lost my hope, but i want what i paid for...

To all the EU people, bunnylake is the proxy who will be able to help.  I just pinged him and he should have a chance to post here sometime next Monday or so - he is out of switches and stabilizers (we all were under-supplied most of those parts), but does still have some PCBs and plates to take care of some/most (?) outstanding EU orders.

It's also likely he will have some extras when all is said and done, since not everyone replied to the messages, so may be able to help out some mashby refugees as well.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: cgbuen on Wed, 15 July 2020, 16:50:40
mashby refugee here, pinging the thread. Have been checking up on this every couple of months for the last several years, holding out some small hope that it'd be made right at some point.

I wanted to work on a couple 60% builds recently, which reminded me again that I had a couple PCBs and plates ordered from this.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Sotongball21 on Wed, 15 July 2020, 21:40:18
Thanks for the reply, i'll try to message bunnylake

Still holding on to hope too... Anyone has any updates for international orders?
It has been 7 years. I keep getting passed from person to person ( last person bunnylake) Am I ever getting the GH60 i paid USD 250++ for ?
I paid in 2013 for the following items...
<snip>
Never received them, what can i do, who should i contact. After several years i lost my hope, but i want what i paid for...

To all the EU people, bunnylake is the proxy who will be able to help.  I just pinged him and he should have a chance to post here sometime next Monday or so - he is out of switches and stabilizers (we all were under-supplied most of those parts), but does still have some PCBs and plates to take care of some/most (?) outstanding EU orders.

It's also likely he will have some extras when all is said and done, since not everyone replied to the messages, so may be able to help out some mashby refugees as well.  :thumb:
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: n0rvig on Tue, 08 September 2020, 00:49:30
Hey old timers, it's 2020 and sometimes I still wonder where our GH60 PCBs might be..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Tue, 13 October 2020, 23:43:55
Anybody know if Mashby is alive?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: billnye on Wed, 14 October 2020, 06:42:49
He is active on Twitter

https://twitter.com/mashby?s=21

Anybody know if Mashby is alive?
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Fri, 16 October 2020, 23:00:28
Ahhh! Just tweeted him haha. Seriously, theses boxes gotta be somewhere right?

He is active on Twitter

https://twitter.com/mashby?s=21

Anybody know if Mashby is alive?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 28 October 2020, 20:31:58
just think, there were kids born at the start of GH60 who are now mid-way through 2nd grade
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Fri, 06 November 2020, 16:54:07
No dice.

Kinda wild this disappeared off the face of the earth. It’s not like somebody was selling a bunch of GH60s...

Some one just decided Nah, we ain’t doing this anymore. Kinda sad.

He is active on Twitter

https://twitter.com/mashby?s=21

Anybody know if Mashby is alive?

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: netdevil on Tue, 22 December 2020, 23:38:16
It has been 7 years since I ordered my GH60. It was passed from person to person and each time I paid that next person assembly fees.

The money I have from $300 initial kit + assembly  fees x 2

The ppl who still replied my PM from last yr has stopped replying me.

This is a lost cause.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: kravlin on Thu, 31 December 2020, 19:04:39
Honestly? at this point I'm not even sure that the PCB would be any good even if I did get it. They do have shelf lives.

I'm calling it with netdevil. This feels entirely like a lost cause.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Tue, 09 March 2021, 23:08:40
Still checking in from 2021!
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: korne on Tue, 23 March 2021, 03:54:00
Hello, posting this message again...

I paid in 2013 for the following items...

-2x PCB (SMD presoldered) - $30
-2x bare PCB
- 1 universal ISO
- 1 universal ANSI
- 1x Cherry (PCB-mounted) stabilizers
- 1x Cherry (Plate-mounted) stabilizers

Never received them, what can i do, who should i contact. After several years i lost my hope, but i want what i paid for...

Is there anyone who can assist me please?

I think i lost my money but i would like to get at least the parts to build 1 keyboard...

Regards
korne
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Mon, 17 May 2021, 16:25:29
Hello, posting this message again...

I paid in 2013 for the following items...

-2x PCB (SMD presoldered) - $30
-2x bare PCB
- 1 universal ISO
- 1 universal ANSI
- 1x Cherry (PCB-mounted) stabilizers
- 1x Cherry (Plate-mounted) stabilizers

Never received them, what can i do, who should i contact. After several years i lost my hope, but i want what i paid for...

Is there anyone who can assist me please?

I think i lost my money but i would like to get at least the parts to build 1 keyboard...

Regards
korne

You wouldn't be the only here unfortunately.

Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: cgbuen on Wed, 02 June 2021, 10:41:54
It's my eight year anniversary since paying the invoice. Any minute now..
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Wed, 27 April 2022, 15:12:13
TTT.

2022.

3223 days since the deadline for payment of 06/30/13, 30/06/13 for your internationals.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: ninjadoc on Fri, 29 April 2022, 13:16:18
And I have never received anything. My first GB I participated in on Geekhack! I should have left then so I didn't spend so much money on keyboards. I can't imagine what it would be like if I stilled used a Logitech keyboard.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 27 May 2022, 13:44:02
this group buy is what drove me from the site for 5 years.

I got burned on two group buys in like 6 months. out several hundred bucks.

its a shame. I was so excited about these.

I logged back into this site a week or so ago to check out what you guys were saying about the HHKB Hybrid.  Then today I remembered this group buy as its in the logo of the website. seeing all this here makes me sad.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: iMav on Wed, 10 August 2022, 14:27:40
this group buy is what drove me from the site for 5 years.

I got burned on two group buys in like 6 months. out several hundred bucks.

its a shame. I was so excited about these.

I logged back into this site a week or so ago to check out what you guys were saying about the HHKB Hybrid.  Then today I remembered this group buy as its in the logo of the website. seeing all this here makes me sad.

Note I ordered three and never received a single thing either...so, the failing of this group buy didn't discriminate.  Heck, I've never even seen one of these in person!  (was hoping that, someday, I'd at least get part of what I ordered.)
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: rknize on Mon, 15 August 2022, 09:32:22
this group buy is what drove me from the site for 5 years.

I got burned on two group buys in like 6 months. out several hundred bucks.

its a shame. I was so excited about these.

I logged back into this site a week or so ago to check out what you guys were saying about the HHKB Hybrid.  Then today I remembered this group buy as its in the logo of the website. seeing all this here makes me sad.

Note I ordered three and never received a single thing either...so, the failing of this group buy didn't discriminate.  Heck, I've never even seen one of these in person!  (was hoping that, someday, I'd at least get part of what I ordered.)

Pretty much ditto.
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Omnias on Mon, 15 August 2022, 15:39:26
Commenting so DrSchlock gets a notif
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: Trueno86 on Tue, 08 November 2022, 20:40:57
this group buy is what drove me from the site for 5 years.

I got burned on two group buys in like 6 months. out several hundred bucks.

its a shame. I was so excited about these.

I logged back into this site a week or so ago to check out what you guys were saying about the HHKB Hybrid.  Then today I remembered this group buy as its in the logo of the website. seeing all this here makes me sad.

Note I ordered three and never received a single thing either...so, the failing of this group buy didn't discriminate.  Heck, I've never even seen one of these in person!  (was hoping that, someday, I'd at least get part of what I ordered.)

Pretty much ditto.

OG group buy bump!  I haven’t bumped in 3 years so I think I can, sad that got on the mashby list but holding out hope. 
Title: Re: GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)
Post by: duq on Tue, 08 August 2023, 15:54:36
annual pilgrimage to beg. hoping for good health to those that are possibly sitting on these in storage or whatever.