GH60 Group Buy (Salvage Mode: Enabled - Update in OP)

[WhiteFireDragon]

UPDATE - invoicing has started.

Final prices that include fees, all shipping from factory to us, and/or VAT. Shipping to you is separate, and will depend on location:

PCB (SMD presoldered) - $28
PCB (DIY, includes SMT components) - $15
bare PCB (no components) - $6
Plate - $16
Switches - $0.63
cherry stabilizers - $9
Costar stabilizers - $7
Assembly - $25 

Shipping
US - $11
Canada - $15
Europe - $21
Slovakia/Czech Republic - $11
Africa - $26
Asia - $28
Australia - $32



If your order is too heavy or require a bigger box, it will be $5-10 more for shipping.

The final PCB will have 11 holes for optional LEDs (Esc, Caps, WASD, spacebar, arrow cluster). White or red LEDs with appropriate resistors will be included for the all PCBs except the bare PCBs (duh). If you choose to install these, you must solder them on yourself unless you got the assembly service.

[Photekq]

Are the PCBs being produced in EU, shipped to komar, and then shipped by komar to the us or are they being produced in the us?

I'm only asking because I swear someone said komar would be shipping EU orders.

[Jocelyn]

Oh wow, I'm ready

[Photekq]

Are the PCBs being produced in EU, shipped to komar, and then shipped by komar to the us or are they being produced in the us?

I'm only asking because I swear someone said komar would be shipping EU orders.

I think Komar is producing them; then shipping the US ones to the states and dispatching the EU ones.

If this is correct then I'm surprised by the $21 shipping costs. Oh well.

[WhiteFireDragon]

PCBs are made in China, and package is split to go to US and Poland. jdcarpe and I are taking care of US and Canada orders, komar is shipping to the rest of the world.

Stainless steel plates and a bag or two of switches are not light.

[Photekq]

PCBs are made in China, and package is split to go to US and Poland. jdcarpe and I are taking care of US and Canada orders, komar is shipping to the rest of the world.

Thanks for clarification.

[pexon]

If he is shipping from Poland to Europe, why is it 21 USD?

[Jmneuv]

Wondering the same, you'd expect the detour to save on shipping for Europe.

[WhiteFireDragon]

Not sure. I only personally did the calculations for the US and Canada, komar estimated for the rest of the world since I'm not familiar with shipping services over there. I'll check with him again on this, but in the meantime you can punch in some numbers yourself to doublecheck. He did it  based on a 1kg package.

[pexon]

I cant speak or read Polish, but I am sure the local Post Office in Poland would be able to do it cheaper than 21 USD

[Photekq]

A pcb? 1kg? My spare blackwidow pcb and metal plate only weighs 600g. I think a cheaper shipping method should be worked out for those who only ordered a pcb because if I'm honest $21 is far too high.

[pexon]

A pcb? 1kg? My spare blackwidow pcb and metal plate only weighs 600g. I think a cheaper shipping method should be worked out for those who only ordered a pcb because if I'm honest $21 is far too high.

If it was with DHL and it included tacking, OK, I can expect that price, but if it is going through the standard post office, 21 USD is too high, I agree.

[komar007]

I cant speak or read Polish, but I am sure the local Post Office in Poland would be able to do it cheaper than 21 USD

Yes, it could. Without tracking.
Well it could be around $18 for UK if I ship with economy.
I could also do a super-dooper cheap $8 letter, but I have no idea in what state it'll get to you.
If anyone in Europe can offer better shipping prices, I don't insist on being the distributor.

EDIT: so far, if your cost seems too high (you've ordered just a PCB for example), please contact me before paying and we'll modify that. The $21 price is for 1kg package, I assumed at least one assembled GH60, switches and a plate.

[Photekq]

I cant speak or read Polish, but I am sure the local Post Office in Poland would be able to do it cheaper than 21 USD

Yes, it could. Without tracking.
Well it could be around $18 for UK if I ship with economy.
I could also do a super-dooper cheap $8 letter, but I have no idea in what state it'll get to you.
If anyone in Europe can offer better shipping prices, I don't insist on being the distributor.

So does the $21 postage include full tracking? I don't mind paying $21 if it's fully tracked.

[pexon]

I cant speak or read Polish, but I am sure the local Post Office in Poland would be able to do it cheaper than 21 USD

Yes, it could. Without tracking.
Well it could be around $18 for UK if I ship with economy.
I could also do a super-dooper cheap $8 letter, but I have no idea in what state it'll get to you.
If anyone in Europe can offer better shipping prices, I don't insist on being the distributor.

Who is that with Komar? The 21 USD method? TNT/ DHL?

[GeorgeK]

I cant speak or read Polish, but I am sure the local Post Office in Poland would be able to do it cheaper than 21 USD

Yes, it could. Without tracking.
Well it could be around $18 for UK if I ship with economy.
I could also do a super-dooper cheap $8 letter, but I have no idea in what state it'll get to you.
If anyone in Europe can offer better shipping prices, I don't insist on being the distributor.

EDIT: so far, if your cost seems too high (you've ordered just a PCB for example), please contact me before paying and we'll modify that. The $21 price is for 1kg package, I assumed at least one assembled GH60, switches and a plate.

I was hoping shipping to the UK would be less - especially since my order is just a PCB and a plate (no switches, no stabilizers etc).  Once the invoice arrives I'll drop you a PM to see what you reckon it could be.  I have a spare PCB here from a tipro and the corresponding plate and they weigh just over 500g together (and are larger than a GH60 will be as it was a 128 switch model)

[mauri]

20 bucks sounds about right, for the pcb, plate,stabs and switches, at least for me. I'd have to pay 10 ish quid for the switches' shipping costs as well as another tenner for the pcb and such. Tho there seems to be no reason for to even ever having ordered them to komar in the first place :d

Switches from 7bit do come along with the other stufff right?

[komar007]

Yup, you're right. $21 is a bit steep for EU, but there's not much I can do about it. This is for a regular mail priority int'l mail, 1kg.
If anyone can offer better prices (Germany, anyone?) and would like to do all or part of the EU distribution and get their GH60 order for free, please write to me.

[pexon]

I echo others, all I have is the DIY PCB and plate, no switches, so I am somewhat dubious to the combined weight of my items totalling anywhere near 1kg

[Tym]

I think what he is saying; there is no cheaper shipping option for him to use.

[osxoep]

I'm not in a position to help with distribution (sorry )
But if someone wants to do it from the UK, the prices are:

Area	Small	Medium
UK	£4.10($6.10)	£6.75($10.20)
Europe	£7.85($11.91)	£?.??
RoW	£12.60($19.12)	£?.??

UK Small package is 450mm x 350mm x 80mm
UK Medium package is 460mm x 460mm x 610mm
International small package is: length + width + height < 900mm with no single side greater than 600mm. So around the same as the UK one.
Prices based on <1kg

Royal mail doesn't list medium parcels for international on its website.
UK is signed for, International isn't.
International is £5.30($8.04) extra for signed for or £5.40 ($8.19) extra for Airsure (increased tracking to delivery point)
These are kinda estimates and packaging will bring additional costs.

yay research.

[Photekq]

Yup, you're right. $21 is a bit steep for EU, but there's not much I can do about it. This is for a regular mail priority int'l mail, 1kg.
If anyone can offer better prices (Germany, anyone?) and would like to do all or part of the EU distribution and get their GH60 order for free, please write to me.

Is the regular mail priority fully tracked/recorded all the way to its destination?

[komar007]

We're working on this. New options will appear.

Yup, you're right. $21 is a bit steep for EU, but there's not much I can do about it. This is for a regular mail priority int'l mail, 1kg.
If anyone can offer better prices (Germany, anyone?) and would like to do all or part of the EU distribution and get their GH60 order for free, please write to me.

Is the regular mail priority fully tracked/recorded all the way to its destination?

Yes, at least it works like that for the US, so I'm assuming to the EU as well.

I think what he is saying; there is no cheaper shipping option for him to use.

I could do regular, not tracked mail for <1kg orders for $7. I'm just rather hesitant. There's no guarantee it'll even get there. 

[kaiserreich]

Since komar is handling the shipping for non US, Canada, are these shipments subject to VAT?

[mauri]

Since komar is handling the shipping for non US, Canada, are these shipments subject to VAT?

I'd assume not, no receipts, no price. Who determines the price on an innocent looking pcb and slab of metal? Of course every country has different protocols so I can't tell. Could be that there's already chinese vat in the prices the organizers are paying.

[Tym]

Since komar is handling the shipping for non US, Canada, are these shipments subject to VAT?

I'd assume not, no receipts, no price. Who determines the price on an innocent looking pcb and slab of metal? Of course every country has different protocols so I can't tell.

They would have to mark the price on the packet for insurance purpose' that's how they get you.

[numerus]

@komar how many orders are at all for EU? my be i can manage something, but first i should check the price in our Company fo DHL EU normaly it is 8,90€ until 2kg. ink. inshurance of 500€. and Tracking.

[komar007]

@komar how many orders are at all for EU? my be i can manage something, but first i should check the price in our Company fo DHL EU normaly it is 8,90€ until 2kg. ink. inshurance of 500€. and Tracking.

Would be great!
I'll count the EU orders in a minute.

[GeorgeK]

One thing I was thinking - do all of the above estimates include the tax that would be incurred importing this stuff into Poland / Germany / wherever else?  As that may wipe out any savings on postage - just a thought.

[Photekq]

@komar how many orders are at all for EU? my be i can manage something, but first i should check the price in our Company fo DHL EU normaly it is 8,90€ until 2kg. ink. inshurance of 500€. and Tracking.

This would be awesome. DHL is by far the best courier.

[komar007]

One thing I was thinking - do all of the above estimates include the tax that would be incurred importing this stuff into Poland / Germany / wherever else?  As that may wipe out any savings on postage - just a thought.

Our prices include what we have to cover. All taxes and stuff. Shipping to EU will be from EU, so no taxes will be incurred, USA has no problem either. Only the rest of the world will have to cope with their local taxes.

@komar how many orders are at all for EU? my be i can manage something, but first i should check the price in our Company fo DHL EU normaly it is 8,90€ until 2kg. ink. inshurance of 500€. and Tracking.

Would be great!
I'll count the EU orders in a minute.

There are less than 100. I counted about 94 addresses. People from the US could really write USA at the end of their address, but I've learned to recognize USA by the address format, I don't even look at the 2-letter state name anymore:D

[Trueno86]

Sorry if I missed it, but are we expecting an email or PM?

[tjweir]

Awww yeah!

This is going to be great.

[MKULTRA]

So all the invoices have not gone out correct?

[Jocelyn]

So all the invoices have not gone out correct?

No??

[MKULTRA]

So all the invoices have not gone out correct?

No??

Sorry, I just realize how awkwardly I had worded that question..

[tjcaustin]

So all the invoices have not gone out correct?

Correct, I woke up to a water heater trying to flood my house so I've not had time to create/send more.

[Jocelyn]

So all the invoices have not gone out correct?

No??

Sorry, I just realize how awkwardly I had worded that question..

Wow, I totally misread your post and thought you had said "So all the invoices have gone out correct?"

Correct, I woke up to a water heater trying to flood my house so I've not had time to create/send more.

Poor guy

[Glod]

Correct, I woke up to a water heater trying to flood my house so I've not had time to create/send more.

that sucks, been there before.


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patiently waiting for my wallet to get raped by this.

[komar007]

New shipping prices coming soon!

[WhiteFireDragon]

I got a lot of PMs, mostly on order changes. I suppose you can still change orders (just fill it out HERE instead of PMing me), but once you've been invoiced, there will no more changes. We need stable numbers for quotes and invoicing.


And shipping stuff is fairly complicated, because every order is different and there are many regions to ship to. We now have to micromanage the shipping cost, so here are the conditions that are easiest for us and cheapest for you:

Non US and Canada packages:
tier1: envelope $5 - 1 plate, PCB, stabilizer set
tier2: envelope $10 - 1 plate, PCB, stab set, 1 bag of switches
tier3: economy box $18 - few plates, few PCB, few bags of switches, if under 1kg
Priority - variable depending on weight and country

US
Priority $11, very large orders will require large flat rate box for $16

Canada
First Class International $15 or $20 based on weight


"envelope" from Poland means the bubble mailer or thin carton boxes. They'll be wrapped with a layer of bubble wrap, but not much protection other than that. "Economy box" is a normal box, and takes between a week to over a month to arrive. Priority (poland) will be more, but is probably faster. These are based on request, otherwise your shipping will default to envelope or economy box. Just request it HERE. These cheaper methods are at your own risk


PCB with SMD - 80g
plate - 150g
stab set - 12g
bag (65) switches - 112g



Summary:
US - $11
Canada - $15, $20
Europe - $5, $10, $18, $21
Slovakia/Czech Republic - $11
Africa - $5, $10, $18, $26
Asia - $5, $10, $18, $28
Australia - $5, $10, $18, $32

[elton5354]

I believe first class mail is up to 4lb right?

[WhiteFireDragon]

Yes, first class international from the US is 4lbs max. elton, yours is the only order from Canada that will be $25 because you bought a bunch of plates and switches. This is too heavy for $20, and I've marked this in the spreadsheet already.

[viasacra89]

Payment sent.

[mauri]

otherwise your shipping will default to envelope or economy box.

So uhh if you've ordered a pcb and accessories the package is by default envelope (10$) If more pcbs it's 18$? And priority on request?

[Jmneuv]

Thanks much for the shipping revision, you gh60's are awesome!

[WhiteFireDragon]

So uhh if you've ordered a pcb and accessories the package is by default envelope (10$) If more pcbs it's 18$? And priority on request?

For your specific case, you have a PCB, plate and stab set, no switches. That can be shipped for $5 envelope. But for example if someone ordered 2 or 3 PCB and no plate, this can also be shipped $5 envelope. There's no way I can list all possibilities, but you should be able to know the approximate weights based on what I already listed.

You can request for priority, but they any weight under 1kg will be charged the same rate as 1kg. So even if you bought just a PCB and wanted to ship priority, it's still $21. I'm not arbitrarily setting these prices, everything is verifiable on all the post office websites.

[mauri]

So uhh if you've ordered a pcb and accessories the package is by default envelope (10$) If more pcbs it's 18$? And priority on request?

For your specific case, you have a PCB, plate and stab set, no switches. That can be shipped for $5 envelope. But for example if someone ordered 2 or 3 PCB and no plate, this can also be shipped $5 envelope. There's no way I can list all possibilities, but you should be able to know the approximate weights based on what I already listed.

You can request for priority, but they any weight under 1kg will be charged the same rate as 1kg. So even if you bought just a PCB and wanted to ship priority, it's still $21. I'm not arbitrarily setting these prices, everything is verifiable on all the post office websites.

Yeah I'm not asking how my order "can" be shipped, rather how it will be shipped if I don't specify what kind of shipment I want. Will it be the original 21$ or 5/10$

Also, I've ordered my switches from 7bit with the gh60 tag so they'll be shipped to komar (Or that's what I gathered), no relevance here tho : D

[bugsaint]

Not received an invoice yet but I assume its in process. I'm in no rush as I'm still hunting down a case for it.

[komar007]

So uhh if you've ordered a pcb and accessories the package is by default envelope (10$) If more pcbs it's 18$? And priority on request?

For your specific case, you have a PCB, plate and stab set, no switches. That can be shipped for $5 envelope. But for example if someone ordered 2 or 3 PCB and no plate, this can also be shipped $5 envelope. There's no way I can list all possibilities, but you should be able to know the approximate weights based on what I already listed.

You can request for priority, but they any weight under 1kg will be charged the same rate as 1kg. So even if you bought just a PCB and wanted to ship priority, it's still $21. I'm not arbitrarily setting these prices, everything is verifiable on all the post office websites.

Yeah I'm not asking how my order "can" be shipped, rather how it will be shipped if I don't specify what kind of shipment I want. Will it be the original 21$ or 5/10$

Also, I've ordered my switches from 7bit with the gh60 tag so they'll be shipped to komar (Or that's what I gathered), no relevance here tho : D

That reminds me of one problem.
If we send switches or assembled boards with switches with your order (Non US/CA), please use at least tier3 ($18) shipping option.
We have no idea if you ordered switches from 7bit or not so far.