Author Topic: [GB] GH-122.2016 R1 PCB - Completed! (Read 111553 times)

rm-rf · « **Reply #100 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 01:14:57 »

i'm interested in one pcb please!

blighty · « **Reply #101 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 01:38:22 »

This looks like a fun project. Definitely in for a pcb and some sort of case solution (if possible).

samwisekoi · « **Reply #102 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 09:13:20 »

Wow, ok then. 24 hours was enough! As of this moment I have enough people to proceed. And metalliqaz has already completed the code! That means we can start to build layouts and layers now, although I can't see who would need MORE keys! (Perhaps different sets of LH keys for different uses?)

Anyhow, this is the kick-off list as of now:

njbair
hak foo
jdcarpe
Spaceman1200
SpAmRaY
Data
blai5000
HoffmanMyster
iamtootallforthis
engicoder
rm-rf
blighty

Everyone else: there is still time to add yourself to the list!

After the weekend I will e-mail invoices to everyone who signed up. Once at least 10 people actually pay, I will place the order.

In other news, I am now working on a "universal" plate design. Check the case thread for updates on that.

Happy Saturday!

- Ron | samwisekoi

Phenix · « **Reply #103 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 09:36:17 »

count me in for one pcb+ diodes.. if you have them laying around

But only if shipping around September+ receiving it during 2 weeks is possible (I assume..)

samwisekoi · « **Reply #104 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 09:42:40 »

Quote from: Phenix on Sat, 19 March 2016, 09:36:17

count me in for one pcb+ diodes.. if you have them laying around

But only if shipping around September+ receiving it during 2 weeks is possible (I assume..)

Sure thing! You're on the list.

- Ron | samwisekoi

WNovizar · « **Reply #105 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 10:24:23 »

The GB already closed??? I want to join D:

Norman_the_Owl · « **Reply #106 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 11:08:16 »

Quote from: WNovizar on Sat, 19 March 2016, 10:24:23

The GB already closed??? I want to join D:

Quote from: samwisekoi on Sat, 19 March 2016, 09:13:20

Everyone else: there is still time to add yourself to the list!

- Ron | samwisekoi

You can still join

I think

Hak Foo · « **Reply #107 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 11:29:24 »

If nothing else, I like that the success of this project shows there's clear demand for bigger boards. I'm so sick of the trend of SSK-size, leading to 75%, 60%, 40%, and "Well, I can only type half the alphabet without using a modifier but it fits into a pocket of my skinny jeans"

WNovizar · « **Reply #108 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 11:36:00 »

I am interested in buying this PCB, only if it comes with Plate and Case

Spaceman1200 · « **Reply #109 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 11:37:26 »

Quote from: Hak Foo on Sat, 19 March 2016, 11:29:24

If nothing else, I like that the success of this project shows there's clear demand for bigger boards. I'm so sick of the trend of SSK-size, leading to 75%, 60%, 40%, and "Well, I can only type half the alphabet without using a modifier but it fits into a pocket of my skinny jeans"

i do like my 60% for typing and some games, But, i do like bigger boards for fps/mmo games

Data · « **Reply #110 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 13:10:17 »

Big, command center-style boards clearly have their place.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #111 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 16:54:07 »

Still open. Just reply with an "I'm in!"

punkpc · « **Reply #112 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 23:17:26 »

Damn... was hoping this was going to take a bit longer... Funds are tapped out till after vacation.

Hopefully there will be a round 2.

Hak Foo · « **Reply #113 on:** Sat, 19 March 2016, 23:41:53 »

You're only No. 14 on your own purchase list? Waiting for someone else before you feel confident in signing on?

samwisekoi · « **Reply #114 on:** Sun, 20 March 2016, 13:57:59 »

Quote from: Hak Foo on Sat, 19 March 2016, 23:41:53

You're only No. 14 on your own purchase list? Waiting for someone else before you feel confident in signing on?

Nah. Forgot to add myself.

njbair · « **Reply #115 on:** Sun, 20 March 2016, 14:05:44 »

Does the Teensy mount on the bottom or the top of the PCB? I'm mainly asking in regards to accessing the reset button for flashing.

MAR82 · « **Reply #116 on:** Sun, 20 March 2016, 14:07:03 »

As long as the PCB fits a Unicomp 122 key rubber dome case you can count me in for a PCB and maybe a plate if you end up making them.
Can you ship to France? If yes, any idea how much shipping would be?

samwisekoi · « **Reply #117 on:** Sun, 20 March 2016, 15:32:03 »

Quote from: njbair on Sun, 20 March 2016, 14:05:44

Does the Teensy mount on the bottom or the top of the PCB? I'm mainly asking in regards to accessing the reset button for flashing.

On the bottom. The center of the Teensy is aligned with the center of Column 22 (Numpad_5 column.) The brown layer of the circuit diagram is the back silkscreen, and the image of the Teensy++ there is as accurate as I could make it, especially the placement of the USB connector and the reset switch.

Quote from: MAR82 on Sun, 20 March 2016, 14:07:03

As long as the PCB fits a Unicomp 122 key rubber dome case you can count me in for a PCB and maybe a plate if you end up making them.
Can you ship to France? If yes, any idea how much shipping would be?

I can't say for sure about that case. I am trying to make it fit the Unicomp PC-122 B/S case, but I won't know if I succeeded untilI have the PCBs in hand.

Regarding shipping, I can ship anywhere -- but paying for shipping, insurance, and Customs will be your responsibility. I'll try to estimate shipping cost to Europe this week.

MAR82 · « **Reply #118 on:** Sun, 20 March 2016, 15:44:12 »

Quote from: samwisekoi on Sun, 20 March 2016, 15:32:03

Quote from: MAR82 on Sun, 20 March 2016, 14:07:03
As long as the PCB fits a Unicomp 122 key rubber dome case you can count me in for a PCB and maybe a plate if you end up making them.
Can you ship to France? If yes, any idea how much shipping would be?

I can't say for sure about that case. I am trying to make it fit the Unicomp PC-122 B/S case, but I won't know if I succeeded untilI have the PCBs in hand.

Regarding shipping, I can ship anywhere -- but paying for shipping, insurance, and Customs will be your responsibility. I'll try to estimate shipping cost to Europe this week.

I'll try to post some pictures of the inside of the case this week in hopes that someone will be able to tell me if it's the same as the BS model

Edit: it just seems more cost effective for them to have used the same case for both models

samwisekoi · « **Reply #119 on:** Sun, 20 March 2016, 19:48:35 »

Quote from: MAR82 on Sun, 20 March 2016, 15:44:12

Quote from: samwisekoi on Sun, 20 March 2016, 15:32:03
Quote from: MAR82 on Sun, 20 March 2016, 14:07:03
As long as the PCB fits a Unicomp 122 key rubber dome case you can count me in for a PCB and maybe a plate if you end up making them.
Can you ship to France? If yes, any idea how much shipping would be?

I can't say for sure about that case. I am trying to make it fit the Unicomp PC-122 B/S case, but I won't know if I succeeded untilI have the PCBs in hand.

Regarding shipping, I can ship anywhere -- but paying for shipping, insurance, and Customs will be your responsibility. I'll try to estimate shipping cost to Europe this week.

I'll try to post some pictures of the inside of the case this week in hopes that someone will be able to tell me if it's the same as the BS model

Edit: it just seems more cost effective for them to have used the same case for both models

The important thing is the spacing between the blocks. On the Unicomp PC-122, the spacing is 0.330" (8.38mm), and so the PCB has that spacing. (Actually, I used 0.340, 0.330, and 0.330" so they sum to 1.00".)

Anyhow, if you can measure the physical width of each of the three bars between the key blocks, I can tell you if they are the same on my empty PC-122 B/S case. If that was a confusing request, let me know and I'll post a picture of what I need to know.

(Or, I suppose someone could just send Unicomp an e-mail and ask.)

- Ron | samwisekoi

Dee1 · « **Reply #120 on:** Mon, 21 March 2016, 08:29:23 »

Quote from: samwisekoi on Sat, 19 March 2016, 16:54:07

Still open. Just reply with an "I'm in!"

I'm in!

AKmalamute · « **Reply #121 on:** Mon, 21 March 2016, 11:43:30 »

Yes, I can do this now.

Also, once you've written up the final .dxf for the plate -- remember I've run a couple group buys for laser-cut steel as there's a shop not too far from where I work that used to have pretty okay prices. You could consider sending it to me for part of your 'shopping around'

Or I could PM you the shop's contact information but they've historically been hard to email.

FrostyToast · « **Reply #122 on:** Mon, 21 March 2016, 11:53:30 »

I guess I'm in.
Even though I'm unsure whether it will fit in a 2100 case or not I could easily use a case from a unicomp 122 which would suffice quite nicely.

Eugene45 · « **Reply #123 on:** Mon, 21 March 2016, 14:30:25 »

What are the possible case this PCB will fit ?

AKmalamute · « **Reply #124 on:** Mon, 21 March 2016, 15:30:35 »

Quote from: Eugene45 on Mon, 21 March 2016, 14:30:25

What are the possible case this PCB will fit ?

There's a more thorough discussion in the other thread, but right now I think the answer is:

probably the PC-122 case available from Unicomp
Possibly the '2100' case mentioned just above you
Samwioski should have a 'bent-plate' that will function as a case
(will require cutting and connecting the PCB if I understand aright)
or of course you can make your own to be sure.

toidbb · « **Reply #125 on:** Mon, 21 March 2016, 15:43:59 »

I'm in

samwisekoi · « **Reply #126 on:** Tue, 22 March 2016, 11:41:53 »

Quick update: I've modified and marked the PCB to enable safe removal of the entire left-hand bank. This is apparently needed for use in some Cherry case(s).

FYI to anyone interested in doing that,

- Ron | samwisekoi

MAR82 · « **Reply #127 on:** Wed, 23 March 2016, 06:00:39 »

Quote from: samwisekoi on Sun, 20 March 2016, 19:48:35

Quote from: MAR82 on Sun, 20 March 2016, 15:44:12
Quote from: samwisekoi on Sun, 20 March 2016, 15:32:03
Quote from: MAR82 on Sun, 20 March 2016, 14:07:03
As long as the PCB fits a Unicomp 122 key rubber dome case you can count me in for a PCB and maybe a plate if you end up making them.
Can you ship to France? If yes, any idea how much shipping would be?

I can't say for sure about that case. I am trying to make it fit the Unicomp PC-122 B/S case, but I won't know if I succeeded untilI have the PCBs in hand.

Regarding shipping, I can ship anywhere -- but paying for shipping, insurance, and Customs will be your responsibility. I'll try to estimate shipping cost to Europe this week.

I'll try to post some pictures of the inside of the case this week in hopes that someone will be able to tell me if it's the same as the BS model

Edit: it just seems more cost effective for them to have used the same case for both models

The important thing is the spacing between the blocks. On the Unicomp PC-122, the spacing is 0.330" (8.38mm), and so the PCB has that spacing. (Actually, I used 0.340, 0.330, and 0.330" so they sum to 1.00".)

Anyhow, if you can measure the physical width of each of the three bars between the key blocks, I can tell you if they are the same on my empty PC-122 B/S case. If that was a confusing request, let me know and I'll post a picture of what I need to know.

(Or, I suppose someone could just send Unicomp an e-mail and ask.)

- Ron | samwisekoi

Sorry but I'm still not sure what part needs measuring. Here are pictures of the inside of the Unicomp rubber dome 122 key.
If the pictures don't allow you to tell the size let me know what parts I need to measure
Thanks for the help

samwisekoi · « **Reply #128 on:** Wed, 23 March 2016, 11:45:01 »

Except for the missing LED holes, that looks identical to my B/S version. I think you're good.

- Ron | samwisekoi

MAR82 · « **Reply #129 on:** Wed, 23 March 2016, 12:43:27 »

Quote from: samwisekoi on Wed, 23 March 2016, 11:45:01

Except for the missing LED holes, that looks identical to my B/S version. I think you're good.

- Ron | samwisekoi

Sounds good!
You can count me in for 1 PCB and 1 plate (if you make plates for this case)

Thanks for all the help

tassadarforaiur · « **Reply #130 on:** Thu, 24 March 2016, 21:07:04 »

Is the unicomp 122 compatible w/ an ibm 1390702? I messed up a boltmod attempt, so if I could swap the pcb, I might be interested.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #131 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 15:28:45 »

PayPal invoices sent via e-mail to group members #1-22. If you weren't signed up yet, but still want one of these, please reply to this thread and/or send me a PM.

Everyone who signed up, please pay by the end of the week!

Thanks and best regards,

- Ron | samwisekoi

p.s. jdcarpe paid before I could even post this!

engicoder · « **Reply #132 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 15:34:48 »

Quote from: samwisekoi on Mon, 28 March 2016, 15:28:45

p.s. jdcarpe paid before I could even post this!

Brown noser

njbair · « **Reply #133 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 15:45:31 »

Paid!

I would have beaten JD but I lost precious minutes of my life convincing PayPal that no, I don't want to bill this to PayPal credit, and no, I don't want to use the default bank account payment method THAT YOU REFUSE TO LET ME CHANGE TO MY POINTS CARD.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #134 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 16:17:48 »

All: Thanks for the prompt payments!

Non-US geekhackers: I just estimated USPS shipping cost to the UK as an example, and came up with $25 USD for First-Class Mail (insured but not tracked) and $60 USD for Priority Mail (insured AND tracked).

These will be light but long, so the USPS sticks it to us. If it helps any, I imagine shipping more than one in a single package would hardly add to the cost.

FYI,

- Ron | samwisekoi

iamtootallforthis · « **Reply #135 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 16:23:26 »

Paid!

Dee1 · « **Reply #136 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 16:26:56 »

Paid!

blai5000 · « **Reply #137 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 16:34:37 »

Paid!

Spaceman1200 · « **Reply #138 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 18:45:55 »

Paid!

WNovizar · « **Reply #139 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 19:24:08 »

Where is my invoice

Hak Foo · « **Reply #140 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 19:26:50 »

Remitted. I can't believe how quickly this operation is running. I guess people are worried that you could break off one edge of a spare PCB and run them through if they don't pay.

Them 60% boards are barely long enough to break the skin, much less pierce a vital organ.

rm-rf · « **Reply #141 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 20:17:12 »

Paid !

Data · « **Reply #142 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 20:17:23 »

Paid.

iamtootallforthis · « **Reply #143 on:** Mon, 28 March 2016, 21:20:11 »

Ron what are you thinking about doing case wise for these? I really like the one piece bent metal case design.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #144 on:** Tue, 29 March 2016, 09:31:28 »

Thanks all! My master list is back at the office, so I'll update the [PAID] list later today. (I will also send WNovizar another invoice to the e-mail address just provided.)

I am going to review the layout one more time, then place the order. The boards should arrive around April 15th, and I'll build up a 100% test keyboard to check both the hardware and firmware. Once I know it works, I'll ship the US boards immediately in the USPS Priority Mail large game boxes I just ordered. Best case timeline puts PCBs in your hands around the 1st of May.

Once that is done, I am going to pull some of the switches back off of the PCB, and mount it into a Unicomp PC-122 case. No plate. (I'll document that process for those who want to replicate it.) See the GH-122 case thread for discussions about plates and cases.

TL;DR Ordering soon. PCBs to be tested then shipped for mailing via USPS Priority Mail around May 1st.

- Ron | samwisekoi
(Auto-typed by my GH36 Matrix Keypad.)

MAR82 · « **Reply #145 on:** Wed, 30 March 2016, 08:11:52 »

My airplane is about to take off, I'll pay the invoice as soon as I get to my destination

samwisekoi · « **Reply #146 on:** Wed, 30 March 2016, 13:10:35 »

Latest version -- as ordered.

hebbler · « **Reply #147 on:** Wed, 30 March 2016, 16:41:06 »

Just joined the buy. I was following the "GH-122 Making a Stupidly Large MX (or Alps) Keyboard" thread from last year with great interest. Saw this popup on Spy, glad I didn't miss it. Thanks samwisekoi!

nathanrosspowell · « **Reply #148 on:** Wed, 30 March 2016, 17:53:25 »

I've been day dreaming about this board all week but they all revolve around me getting my hands on a full Nuclear Data set

I'm going to be following the project with great interest. Really cool to see the 122 actually happening, Sam

samwisekoi · « **Reply #149 on:** Thu, 31 March 2016, 13:23:28 »

Ok, I just got the expected phone call from the manufacturer:

"Do you really want those holes to overlap each other?"

Why yes. Yes I do. Even those nasty ones around the ISO and ANSI Enter key locations.

"Thanks. We'll get this order going."

Apparently not every PCB looks like a crazed maniac hit it with #2 buckshot. But MINE do!

Anyhow, situation normal. PCBs going into the build process now.

- Ron | samwisekoi

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Author Topic: [GB] GH-122.2016 R1 PCB - Completed! (Read 111553 times)