{GB} Gateron PBT Blank Keysets CLOSED [EXTRAS SOLD OUT]

[nyunyu]

Any news about ISO addons?

[KHAANNN]

Got mine today and ended up dying the mods purple, strangely enough I ended up with an additional R2 key rather than missing one 

(Attachment Link)

Dang! I know what I'm doing with one of my sets now!

Thanks for sharing

+1 - never considered buying blank PBT's and dye-ing them before, but now it seems like such an obvious things to do, I love having unique colors on my keyboard, might dye some orange*

Wish I considered this before, I would have made different buying decisions

Any news on the missing keys?

Will be arriving within a week or so I think. I will probably delay shipping a little...gonna have my college interviews and test soon

Thanks for the update and best of luck for your coming interviews and tests!

Sigh. I think it's gonna be tough. US uni applications need to write so many essays and mini-statements.....

I don't regret many things in life but I regret applying to US colleges, instead of half-assing it, you have to tenfold-ass it, even if you do, scholarship applications etc. would be a major headache

I completed several applications/essays in a day and mailed them on the deadline (so it was deadline + shipping = late)

On the bright side, after that nightmarish experience, I ended up being a bit better organised

[vercadium]

Guess I'm late to the party, but I only just spotted this yesterday! Completed the form last night for 3 sets of 'extras' - 2 White (plan on dying 1 set blue) and 1 Dark Gray. I'm an ISO user with a penchant for Cherry Stabilisers so I have some hassle to endure:

• I guess I'm going to have to Dremel the spacebar to make it fit?
• I read the entire thread and from what I can gather - because I'm buying multiple blank sets - I'm only going to have to acquire the Left Shift and Enter key elsewhere?
• On a related note, any update on ISO kits? I noticed this link had been posted which looks promising. They seem to have a good variety of colours and both BA and ISO/JIS Enter caps.

Thanks!

[hoz]

Guess I'm late to the party, but I only just spotted this yesterday! Completed the form last night for 3 sets of 'extras' - 2 White (plan on dying 1 set blue) and 1 Dark Gray. I'm an ISO user with a penchant for Cherry Stabilisers so I have some hassle to endure:

• I guess I'm going to have to Dremel the spacebar to make it fit?
• I read the entire thread and from what I can gather - because I'm buying multiple blank sets - I'm only going to have to acquire the Left Shift and Enter key elsewhere?
• On a related note, any update on ISO kits? I noticed this link had been posted which looks promising. They seem to have a good variety of colours and both BA and ISO/JIS Enter caps.

Thanks!

that depends on where the stabs are placed on the board they'll be on.

[nephiel]

The ISO left shift is a 1.25u mod, same profile as the spacebar row. IIRC there are only 7 of them included in these sets, so if your layout uses all 7 for the bottom row, you'll need one extra. The same goes for the 1u key in the home row just to the left of the ISO Enter.

As for the key to the right of the left shift, it's a bottom row 1u, and the set includes spares of those.

edit: and you also need one ISO enter, of course

[vercadium]

The ISO left shift is a 1.25u mod, same profile as the spacebar row. IIRC there are only 7 of them included in these sets, so if your layout uses all 7 for the bottom row, you'll need one extra. The same goes for the 1u key in the home row just to the left of the ISO Enter.

As for the key to the right of the left shift, it's a bottom row 1u, and the set includes spares of those.

edit: and you also need one ISO enter, of course

Thank you for your excellent and concise summary. It would seem I'll only be missing an ISO Enter then. I can harvest (and possibly dye?) one from a Cherry G81-3000 until I can acquire a matching keycap.

I actually found a site that allows you to buy items from the previously mentioned Taobao link in English. Sadly, they don't accept Paypal and I don't trust the site with any other details.

[3v0]

Hey Shadovved, I was just wondering, will you PM the tracking numbers through here or reddit?
I think I put my reddit username in the form, cannot recall right now. Anyhow, don't mean to be annoying, It's my first GB over here and I can't wait to dress my v60 with those caps! 

[Shadovved]

Hey Shadovved, I was just wondering, will you PM the tracking numbers through here or reddit?
I think I put my reddit username in the form, cannot recall right now. Anyhow, don't mean to be annoying, It's my first GB over here and I can't wait to dress my v60 with those caps! 

It'll be sent to your PayPal email

[asgeirtj]

Guess I'm late to the party, but I only just spotted this yesterday! Completed the form last night for 3 sets of 'extras' - 2 White (plan on dying 1 set blue) and 1 Dark Gray. I'm an ISO user with a penchant for Cherry Stabilisers so I have some hassle to endure:

• I guess I'm going to have to Dremel the spacebar to make it fit?
• I read the entire thread and from what I can gather - because I'm buying multiple blank sets - I'm only going to have to acquire the Left Shift and Enter key elsewhere?
• On a related note, any update on ISO kits? I noticed this link had been posted which looks promising. They seem to have a good variety of colours and both BA and ISO/JIS Enter caps.

Thanks!

It's the costar stabs which make it hard to fit, you'll be fine with cherry stabs.

[D3avy]

Received my set today.

Really happy with it except one problem and that is the 7u spacebar which I really need for my layout.
It's slightly warped in a weird way and makes it like a milimeter shorter which creates the problem with it not being able to fit on the stabilizer.
I mean it barely fits if I push it a bit but then the spacebar isn't usable because it gets stuck every time due to tight fit.

I've tried my other 7u spacebar and it fits without problems, and comparing the two I saw my Gateron spacebar is not as straight as it should be.

What do? 

[Draxor]

I've read about people using blowdryers or boiling to bend them back before - however YMMV

Large PBT keys not being straight seems to be pretty common. One of PBT shift keys ordered from Signature plastic had similar problem. However, this problem is easily fixable by using a hair dryer.

1. You put the spacebar on a flat surface.
2. Heat the spacebar with a hair dryer. Be careful not to over heat it. Heat it just enough so that you can straighten the spacebar by pressing down on both sides. The post where I saw this tip said 5 to 20 seconds will be enough although it depends on power of your hair dryer.
3. Now hold the spacebar down until it cools down.

I saw this tip here. http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3511823

[just66in]

I've read about people using blowdryers or boiling to bend them back before - however YMMV

Large PBT keys not being straight seems to be pretty common. One of PBT shift keys ordered from Signature plastic had similar problem. However, this problem is easily fixable by using a hair dryer.

1. You put the spacebar on a flat surface.
2. Heat the spacebar with a hair dryer. Be careful not to over heat it. Heat it just enough so that you can straighten the spacebar by pressing down on both sides. The post where I saw this tip said 5 to 20 seconds will be enough although it depends on power of your hair dryer.
3. Now hold the spacebar down until it cools down.

I saw this tip here. http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3511823

Thanks. I tried the "boiling" method however my spacebar is still warped even after putting it under the base of my monitor for a week and have resulted to using the set w my own spacebar. Guess will try if this works.

[D3avy]

I've read about people using blowdryers or boiling to bend them back before - however YMMV

Large PBT keys not being straight seems to be pretty common. One of PBT shift keys ordered from Signature plastic had similar problem. However, this problem is easily fixable by using a hair dryer.

1. You put the spacebar on a flat surface.
2. Heat the spacebar with a hair dryer. Be careful not to over heat it. Heat it just enough so that you can straighten the spacebar by pressing down on both sides. The post where I saw this tip said 5 to 20 seconds will be enough although it depends on power of your hair dryer.
3. Now hold the spacebar down until it cools down.

I saw this tip here. http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3511823

Thanks but I tried it before I posted here.

I straighten it out a bit.
Now when I put it on the surface it's almost perfectly flat, actually more flat than my other 7u spacebar that works without problems.

But here lies the problem. When I put two spacebars next to one another, Gateron is 1mm shorter and because of that, those things where stems go are misaligned and it still gets stuck.

From what I've read, it's a common problem for PBT spacebars to have issues, especially the bigger ones like 7u.

[KHAANNN]

I've read about people using blowdryers or boiling to bend them back before - however YMMV

Large PBT keys not being straight seems to be pretty common. One of PBT shift keys ordered from Signature plastic had similar problem. However, this problem is easily fixable by using a hair dryer.

1. You put the spacebar on a flat surface.
2. Heat the spacebar with a hair dryer. Be careful not to over heat it. Heat it just enough so that you can straighten the spacebar by pressing down on both sides. The post where I saw this tip said 5 to 20 seconds will be enough although it depends on power of your hair dryer.
3. Now hold the spacebar down until it cools down.

I saw this tip here. http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3511823

Thanks but I tried it before I posted here.

I straighten it out a bit.
Now when I put it on the surface it's almost perfectly flat, actually more flat than my other 7u spacebar that works without problems.

But here lies the problem. When I put two spacebars next to one another, Gateron is 1mm shorter and because of that, those things where stems go are misaligned and it still gets stuck.

From what I've read, it's a common problem for PBT spacebars to have issues, especially the bigger ones like 7u.

This is a cherry stab right? A lot of people are cherry stab fans, yet they are really hard to get right, and impossible to fix superficially, while with costar stabs, you have numerous options, like bending the wire to compensate etc. - generally people seem to use things at the stiff form where you refuse to use, and you should refuse

Other than these, Is the other spacebar an OEM profile one, OEM profile is higher

Stiffness will go away in time, the plastic inserts deform, stiffness will turn into looseness in some time, but during this, your spacebar switch may degrade too

My ultimate advice would be to switch to costar, but you will have ot do things like these: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73871.0

In any case, stabilisers are hard to get right, if you care, you have a long bumpy road ahead, the simplest thing for you to do would be to use another spacebar that works

[Shadovved]

I have one bag of 200+ 1x keys in beige. I'm guessing the profile is mixed, if not all of Fn row.

Anyone wants to take it off me? Should be good for a dye-job or molding.

$35 shipped.

[asgeirtj]

I've read about people using blowdryers or boiling to bend them back before - however YMMV

Large PBT keys not being straight seems to be pretty common. One of PBT shift keys ordered from Signature plastic had similar problem. However, this problem is easily fixable by using a hair dryer.

1. You put the spacebar on a flat surface.
2. Heat the spacebar with a hair dryer. Be careful not to over heat it. Heat it just enough so that you can straighten the spacebar by pressing down on both sides. The post where I saw this tip said 5 to 20 seconds will be enough although it depends on power of your hair dryer.
3. Now hold the spacebar down until it cools down.

I saw this tip here. http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3511823

Thanks but I tried it before I posted here.

I straighten it out a bit.
Now when I put it on the surface it's almost perfectly flat, actually more flat than my other 7u spacebar that works without problems.

But here lies the problem. When I put two spacebars next to one another, Gateron is 1mm shorter and because of that, those things where stems go are misaligned and it still gets stuck.

From what I've read, it's a common problem for PBT spacebars to have issues, especially the bigger ones like 7u.

This is a cherry stab right? A lot of people are cherry stab fans, yet they are really hard to get right, and impossible to fix superficially, while with costar stabs, you have numerous options, like bending the wire to compensate etc. - generally people seem to use things at the stiff form where you refuse to use, and you should refuse

Other than these, Is the other spacebar an OEM profile one, OEM profile is higher

Stiffness will go away in time, the plastic inserts deform, stiffness will turn into looseness in some time, but during this, your spacebar switch may degrade too

My ultimate advice would be to switch to costar, but you will have ot do things like these: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73871.0

In any case, stabilisers are hard to get right, if you care, you have a long bumpy road ahead, the simplest thing for you to do would be to use another spacebar that works

What's hard to get right with cherry stabs?  Clip them and they are perfect imo.

[KHAANNN]

What's hard to get right with cherry stabs?  Clip them and they are perfect imo.

So, are you claiming that if D3amy clips his cherry stabs, his problems will go away?
(The answer is no, it's a hypothetical question)

If this was a regular cherry/costar discussion, what you said would be more believable, but in this case, it's not

[D3avy]

I guess I'll have to switch my layout to 6.25u spacebar. As far as I can see it doesn't get stuck like the 7u.
Wish I could use the costars but 7u wire is hard to come by since they're all DIY and I'd have to sand the keycaps which I don't feel like doing.

[KHAANNN]

I guess I'll have to switch my layout to 6.25u spacebar. As far as I can see it doesn't get stuck like the 7u.
Wish I could use the costars but 7u wire is hard to come by since they're all DIY and I'd have to sand the keycaps which I don't feel like doing.

Makes sense, one of the reasons I like Costar's so much is because WASD is providing awesome Costar components, but they don't have a 7u wire as you mentioned, with Cherry's there is an incredible amount of fragmentation, many types of stabilisers that all look the same and all of them are hard to find/source - I never could make any of them work for me tho, there is always at least a rattling/stiffness that remains

[amharris]

Mine arrived yesterday. I put them on today and what an improvement!

My first experience with PBT and I'm very pleased. They feel great and won't really wear down.

Great thanks to Shadovved!

[zarrx]

Any news on the missing keys?

Will be arriving within a week or so I think. I will probably delay shipping a little...gonna have my college interviews and test soon

Could you let us know when you receive the missing keys? thanks

[Shadovved]

Any news on the missing keys?

Will be arriving within a week or so I think. I will probably delay shipping a little...gonna have my college interviews and test soon

Could you let us know when you receive the missing keys? thanks

I've been told they'll arrive on 30th Oct. Expect 1 week for me to pack and send

[vercadium]

My three sets arrived yesterday. I haven't checked them all but tried out a few - my first experience with PBT - absolutely glorious. Thanks Shadovved.

Just a matching ISO Enter and then I'm finished!

[just66in]

Any news on the missing keys?

Will be arriving within a week or so I think. I will probably delay shipping a little...gonna have my college interviews and test soon

Could you let us know when you receive the missing keys? thanks

I've been told they'll arrive on 30th Oct. Expect 1 week for me to pack and send

Thanks for the update 

[nyunyu]

Is there any way getting matching ISO addons (Enter, R3 1U, R4 1U, R4 1.25U) from enjoypbt/Tao Bao or somebody else?

[KHAANNN]

Is there any way getting matching ISO addons (Enter, R3 1U, R4 1U, R4 1.25U) from enjoypbt/Tao Bao or somebody else?

If I were you, I would get the 1U/1.25U's from Shadovved by paying extra, and I would buy a GMK ISO Enter from someone and use that ISO Enter

It might be a bit too late for the extras, but maybe not

You can always find tons of ISO Enter's through classifieds, everyone has many that they can't use, I sometimes get the urge to build an ISO keyboard since those Enter keycaps are just too beautiful to leave unused

[edsucks]

Got my order a few days ago, just thought I should crosspost from the "Post your pokers" thread.



Dark gray mods and beige alphas on my Pok3r. Thanks for the GB shadovved!

[just66in]

Just wondering if the missing keys have been received?

[Shadovved]

Just wondering if the missing keys have been received?

Prepping to send out alr.

[Shadovved]

Everything is sold out. Any suggestions for R2?

Printed/Unprinted?

[azhdar]

Everything is sold out. Any suggestions for R2?

Printed/Unprinted?

I know Seth won't put forward this project : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74163.0
But It will probably gather a lot of interest. (for the dirty qwerty user  ) )

[Shadovved]

Everything is sold out. Any suggestions for R2?

Printed/Unprinted?

I know Seth won't put forward this project : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74163.0
But It will probably gather a lot of interest. (for the dirty qwerty user  ) )

I'm working on getting that but seems like imsto is the only distributor available. I'll check again.

That's still not available for GB on GH yet?

[azhdar]

Everything is sold out. Any suggestions for R2?

Printed/Unprinted?

I know Seth won't put forward this project : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74163.0
But It will probably gather a lot of interest. (for the dirty qwerty user  ) )

I'm working on getting that but seems like imsto is the only distributor available. I'll check again.

That's still not available for GB on GH yet?

No those dyesubed gaterons aren't yet.

[Shadovved]

Everything is sold out. Any suggestions for R2?

Printed/Unprinted?

I know Seth won't put forward this project : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74163.0
But It will probably gather a lot of interest. (for the dirty qwerty user  ) )

I'm working on getting that but seems like imsto is the only distributor available. I'll check again.

That's still not available for GB on GH yet?

No those dyesubed gaterons aren't yet.

Hm. I thought imsto would have moved.

I'll check it out. But the prices seem similar to BSP sets....

[potatowire]

I would love to see blanks in more colors.

[Shadovved]

I would love to see blanks in more colors.

Like which colours. Probably can be done, but the material set-up costs might need to borne by the first buy if they do not have existing material.

[KHAANNN]

I would love to see blanks in more colors.

+1

I would love to see blanks in more colors.

Like which colours. Probably can be done, but the material set-up costs might need to borne by the first buy if they do not have existing material.

Pale/transparent-ish orange, blue, green, purple etc. would be nice

+ Individual key ordering with a specialised form would be nice (much like the missing keycaps form, but easier both for the buyer and the leader)

[nyunyu]

Everything is sold out. Any suggestions for R2?

Printed/Unprinted?

European users would appreciate an ISO addon kit for any Gateron set.

I'd like to build a split keyboard with hungarian layout, but getting properly printed caps is impossible, so I guess I have to go for blanks, or maybe UK layout.
(Technically DE layout would suit me better, but I don't like german modifier keys )

Also please consider adding the other Gateron extras as options: Minila space key, windowed Caps/Num/Scr keys.

[lolpes]

I would really appreciate windowed blanks in various colors, i know there is a link in tao bao, but having some big orders for these would be awesome



in other news I got my set in the mail yesterday

[potatowire]

I would love to see blanks in more colors.

Like which colours. Probably can be done, but the material set-up costs might need to borne by the first buy if they do not have existing material.

I like KHAANNN's idea, but I was thinking primary/basic colors at first (although I'd also love Vim green). I would be good with just color packs of mods + esc, because I mainly want to accent what exists now. I would be willing pay for setup costs rolled into the first few runs, for sure.

[KHAANNN]

Since no one is mentioning it, I got my shipment notice 4 days ago by the way, for the missing keys

Can't track it from the email, but at least it's shipped :)

These missing keys + GMK Blue's will get me much closer to my ideal layout

[edel781]

Black blanks would be nice 

[mtzgr]

I would love to see blanks in more colors.

Agree with this. I would kill for black (actual black, not gray) alphas and yellow mods. Then I could match my board to my mouse:



Using the dark gray set on my main board and love them.

[waterform]

Extra/missing keys arrived, thanks Shadovved.

[sth]

got my 'replacement' key, thanks shadovved. now if only i had an MX board to put it on D:

[hasagi]

Ahh too late to the party.. From Singapore too. What a pity haha! :`)

[Shadovved]

Ahh too late to the party.. From Singapore too. What a pity haha! :`)

I have spare ghost white sets though.....if you are interested.

[hasagi]

Do you still have the two tone set? Really love the colours on those ><

[trenzafeeds]

Do you still have the two tone set? Really love the colours on those ><

{GB} Gateron PBT Blank Keysets CLOSED [EXTRAS SOLD OUT]

[azhdar]

Missing keys arrived, thanks shadovved !