(GB)HYPERFUSE GMK (currently shipping)

[nathanrosspowell]

I played arround with a few 60% infinity/hhkb style mockups using the currently confirmed keys! 

60% 'infinity style'

Hate to be a party pooper, but the infinity layout with 1.5u mods has two 1u caps on the right hand side making it take a 6u space bar So Hyperfuse doesn't match up with it.

[FoC_Tow]

I fixed some of the mockups I posted earlier, thx for helping again guys! 

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I think everything mentioned should be fixed now, as long as the 1800 support delete is actually a R1 profile? =)
Definitely feel free to point out mistakes or request changes, any help or feedback is appreciated!

[ideus]

I fixed some of the mockups I posted earlier, thx for helping again guys! 

Infinity / Nerd60

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I think everything mentioned should be fixed now, as long as the 1800 support delete is actually a R1 profile? =)
Definitely feel free to point out mistakes or request changes, any help or feedback is appreciated!

The stepped control will not be manufactured, so you should fix the HHKB style mockups with a full touch control, that is also supported by the Nerd60, it is just such a great PCB.

[BunnyLake]

I fixed some of the mockups I posted earlier, thx for helping again guys! 

Infinity / Nerd60

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I think everything mentioned should be fixed now, as long as the 1800 support delete is actually a R1 profile? =)
Definitely feel free to point out mistakes or request changes, any help or feedback is appreciated!

The stepped control will not be manufactured, so you should fix the HHKB style mockups with a full touch control, that is also supported by the Nerd60, it is just such a great PCB.

stepped ctrl ais being made, i added it today, as well as a full touch one

[FoC_Tow]

I fixed some of the mockups I posted earlier, thx for helping again guys! 

Infinity / Nerd60

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I think everything mentioned should be fixed now, as long as the 1800 support delete is actually a R1 profile? =)
Definitely feel free to point out mistakes or request changes, any help or feedback is appreciated!

The stepped control will not be manufactured, so you should fix the HHKB style mockups with a full touch control, that is also supported by the Nerd60, it is just such a great PCB.

stepped ctrl ais being made, i added it today, as well as a full touch one

Thx Bunny! =)
I'm super glad full touch got added! <3

And Thx for mentioning Ideus! If nerd60 supports both i will probably change at least one of the mockups as i definitely prefer full touch! =)

Do the GON PCBs actually support both tho btw? I think the stepped one has an off center stem right?

[BunnyLake]

I fixed some of the mockups I posted earlier, thx for helping again guys! 

Infinity / Nerd60

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I think everything mentioned should be fixed now, as long as the 1800 support delete is actually a R1 profile? =)
Definitely feel free to point out mistakes or request changes, any help or feedback is appreciated!

The stepped control will not be manufactured, so you should fix the HHKB style mockups with a full touch control, that is also supported by the Nerd60, it is just such a great PCB.

stepped ctrl ais being made, i added it today, as well as a full touch one

Thx Bunny! =)
I'm super glad full touch got added! <3

And Thx for mentioning Ideus! If nerd60 supports both i will probably change at least one of the mockups as i definitely prefer full touch! =)

Do the GON PCBs actually support both tho btw? I think the stepped one has an off center stem right?

it is off centre and both are supported

off centre or die

oh its the gon im talking about btw, i dont know anything about the infinity, i heard a bunch of really terrible reviews so i avoided it

[strict]

Would love cyan on purple enter/esc pack.

Don't really have a preference either way about ISO stuff or 75% support since I won't be needing either.

[FoC_Tow]

it is off centre and both are supported

off centre or die

oh its the gon im talking about btw, i dont know anything about the infinity, i heard a bunch of really terrible reviews so i avoided it

I changed one of the nerd60 hhkb mockups to full touch to cover both options! 
I really hope Bunny won't kill me for this tho... xD

[slickmamba]

it is off centre and both are supported

off centre or die

oh its the gon im talking about btw, i dont know anything about the infinity, i heard a bunch of really terrible reviews so i avoided it

I changed one of the nerd60 hhkb mockups to full touch to cover both options! 
I really hope Bunny won't kill me for this tho... xD

Didn't bill say that the stepped control only comes with Ctrl legends in instead of the full "control"?  May need a second change xP

[BunnyLake]

it is off centre and both are supported

off centre or die

oh its the gon im talking about btw, i dont know anything about the infinity, i heard a bunch of really terrible reviews so i avoided it

I changed one of the nerd60 hhkb mockups to full touch to cover both options! 
I really hope Bunny won't kill me for this tho... xD

Didn't bill say that the stepped control only comes with Ctrl legends in instead of the full "control"?  May need a second change xP

if you go and read my post where i address the change

it states clearly

stepped "ctrl" key and full touch "control" key

here you go

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68198.msg1685946#msg1685946

[jorgenslee]

+1 for layout compatibility (row 1 "\ |" for the HHKB crowd?)

This. It would be epic if Hyperfuse would support a Full HHKB layout. It would make it even more historical. I'm sure there are more people who uses HHKB layout and finding a correct profile for R1 \| is difficult.

[slickmamba]

it is off centre and both are supported

off centre or die

oh its the gon im talking about btw, i dont know anything about the infinity, i heard a bunch of really terrible reviews so i avoided it

I changed one of the nerd60 hhkb mockups to full touch to cover both options! 
I really hope Bunny won't kill me for this tho... xD

Didn't bill say that the stepped control only comes with Ctrl legends in instead of the full "control"?  May need a second change xP

if you go and read my post where i address the change

it states clearly

stepped "ctrl" key and full touch "control" key

here you go

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68198.msg1685946#msg1685946

Yep, just letting foc_tow know since his mockup shows "control" on the stepped ones as well. 

[tristan1035]

Is there any possibility for windowed keys?

[FoC_Tow]

+1 for layout compatibility (row 1 "\ |" for the HHKB crowd?)

This. It would be epic if Hyperfuse would support a Full HHKB layout. It would make it even more historical. I'm sure there are more people who uses HHKB layout and finding a correct profile for R1 \| is difficult.

+2 Definitely big fan of the R1 \|, its like the one missing key for full hhkb/infinity support! 
I would love to see one in the dark modifier grey for 60% symmetry tho!

Like this maybe? <3

it is off centre and both are supported

off centre or die

oh its the gon im talking about btw, i dont know anything about the infinity, i heard a bunch of really terrible reviews so i avoided it

I changed one of the nerd60 hhkb mockups to full touch to cover both options! 
I really hope Bunny won't kill me for this tho... xD

Didn't bill say that the stepped control only comes with Ctrl legends in instead of the full "control"?  May need a second change xP

if you go and read my post where i address the change

it states clearly

stepped "ctrl" key and full touch "control" key

here you go

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68198.msg1685946#msg1685946

Yep, just letting foc_tow know since his mockup shows "control" on the stepped ones as well.

I was originally just working with the keys form the latest mockup, which just included the stepped control, but since you guys requested it I'll change the legend to Ctrl! =)
Original post updated with full touch Control & stepped Ctrl! (not sure if the font is correct btw)

Praise Bunny for making all this reality! 

[daviswalkers]

Before people keep +1'ing the glory that is ISO ansi being split is it safe to assume it won't be happening based on at least one objection bunny?

[daviswalkers]

Tapatalk double post :/

[jorgenslee]

+1 for layout compatibility (row 1 "\ |" for the HHKB crowd?)

This. It would be epic if Hyperfuse would support a Full HHKB layout. It would make it even more historical. I'm sure there are more people who uses HHKB layout and finding a correct profile for R1 \| is difficult.

+2 Definitely big fan of the R1 \|, its like the one missing key for full hhkb/infinity support! 
I would love to see one in the dark modifier grey for 60% symmetry tho!

Like this maybe? <3

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IF we go with dark modifier grey for \| then it would be in the wrong position as \| should be after += and If you want a symmetry it would cost us another key, ie dark modifier grey `~. I think regular color for \| will be fine. Just my opinion though. :)

[BunnyLake]

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this ones for elrick

[BunnyLake]

ps gonna update the 1u 0 because its goofy to be the 0 ins legend

[jdcarpe]

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this ones for elrick

Will look great on the JD1800. :D

[BunnyLake]

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this ones for elrick

Will look great on the JD1800. :D

yes it will

and fixed

[Wilba]

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this ones for elrick

Will look great on the JD1800. :D

JD1800 PCB is 80% complete ;)

[SpAmRaY]

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this ones for elrick

Will look great on the JD1800. :D

#sobeyondhypenowordappropriate

[daviswalkers]

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this ones for elrick

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

I got in on this group buy, and the TX1800 group buy because of Elricks hype of both on this thread. I switched back and forth between Silver/Grey for the Alu Case, and after seeing your mockup I'm glad I went with the Grey option!!!

Now to wait and see the Hype Elrick response!

[exitfire401]

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this ones for elrick

[daviswalkers]

and fixed

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OH MAH GAWD Does this mean we will be getting a 0 (Ins) key :D:D?

[BunnyLake]

and fixed

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OH MAH GAWD Does this mean we will be getting a 0 (Ins) key :D:D?

correct

[nathanrosspowell]

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this ones for elrick

Will look great on the JD1800. :D

yes it will

and fixed

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  NO idea how giddy I am now! Sweet sweet TX1800, I count the days until you can be set up on my desk with GMK HF 

[monotagary]

and fixed

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OH MAH GAWD Does this mean we will be getting a 0 (Ins) key :D:D?

correct

HOLY HYPE

[lobehold]

Is it too late to suggest a 1.75u Enter key for JD40 layout?

At least that's what I *think* is needed to complete that layout based on what's currently included.

[rabidwombat]

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OH MAH GAWD Does this mean we will be getting a 0 (Ins) key :D:D?

correct

And with this we can now have perfect 1800 and Lightsaver layouts. So many keyboards to get, too little hyperfuse sets.

[nathanrosspowell]

Is it too late to suggest a 1.75u Enter key for JD40 layout?

At least that's what I *think* is needed to complete that layout based on what's currently included.

There might be nearly all the correct key sizes, but they are all the wrong profile. I count four missing keys for the JD40 layout. 

[bueller]

Ok Bunny said someone covered this in the thread but I can't find it, I beg someone, anyone to answer:

Why is the extra ISO R4 key \� and not \| ?  I thought a correction was being made but it's still in the mockup, for the love of cheddar, someone tell me why.

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I could be wrong here but isn't that how all Cherry/GMK sets look? It's certainly on my Classic Beige set.

[FoC_Tow]

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this ones for elrick

Will look great on the JD1800. :D

yes it will

and fixed

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Love it Bunny! But I kinda liked the the old crossed style 1u 0 tbh...
I think it looked more simplistic without Ins and the crossed out font kinda added character, but thats just me xD


Made a mockup combining my votes:





-1.25 Code keys (purple on cyan)
-1.25 Win keys (cyan on purple)
-R1 |\ or blanks for hhkb compatibility (still prefer dark grey for |\ for despite the keys having to be flipped for 60% symmetry)
-WASD set (cyan on purple)
-1.25 FN key (not shown)

I kinda tried to incorporate more purple for all the people asking for purple Esc & Enter...

[monotagary]

Ok Bunny said someone covered this in the thread but I can't find it, I beg someone, anyone to answer:

Why is the extra ISO R4 key \� and not \| ?  I thought a correction was being made but it's still in the mockup, for the love of cheddar, someone tell me why.

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I could be wrong here but isn't that how all Cherry/GMK sets look? It's certainly on my Classic Beige set.

You're right, that's just the symbol they use.

[heedpantsnow]

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this ones for elrick

Will look great on the JD1800. :D

yes it will

and fixed

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Love it Bunny! But I kinda liked the the old crossed style 1u 0 tbh...
I think it looked more simplistic without Ins and the crossed out font kinda added character, but thats just me xD


Made a mockup combining my votes:

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-1.25 Code keys (purple on cyan)
-1.25 Win keys (cyan on purple)
-R1 |\ or blanks for hhkb compatibility (still prefer dark grey for |\ for despite the keys having to be flipped for 60% symmetry)
-WASD set (cyan on purple)
-1.25 FN key (not shown)

I kinda tried to incorporate more purple for all the people asking for purple Esc & Enter...

I like the ideas, but too much purple for me.

Forgot how much I like the WASD and 1.25 Code keys.

[lobehold]

Is it too late to suggest a 1.75u Enter key for JD40 layout?

At least that's what I *think* is needed to complete that layout based on what's currently included.

There might be nearly all the correct key sizes, but they are all the wrong profile. I count four missing keys for the JD40 layout. 

Well, I was able to get a layout with all the right sized keys and all the right profiles, but the legends gets weird...

[jdcarpe]

JD40/45 support requires too many different sizes and profiles to really include with every group buy. And while they are getting more and more popular, there still isn't anywhere near the adoption rate to include.

[Wilba]

Is it too late to suggest a 1.75u Enter key for JD40 layout?

At least that's what I *think* is needed to complete that layout based on what's currently included.

There might be nearly all the correct key sizes, but they are all the wrong profile. I count four missing keys for the JD40 layout. 

Well, I was able to get a layout with all the right sized keys and all the right profiles, but the legends gets weird...

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You could use Control instead of Caps Lock... three Controls on one keyboard FTW!

[nathanrosspowell]

Is it too late to suggest a 1.75u Enter key for JD40 layout?

At least that's what I *think* is needed to complete that layout based on what's currently included.

There might be nearly all the correct key sizes, but they are all the wrong profile. I count four missing keys for the JD40 layout. 

Well, I was able to get a layout with all the right sized keys and all the right profiles, but the legends gets weird...

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Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't the shift key (in tab position) and the menu key the wrong profile?

[lobehold]

JD40/45 support requires too many different sizes and profiles to really include with every group buy. And while they are getting more and more popular, there still isn't anywhere near the adoption rate to include.

I understand, to be honest it's fine if the legends doesn't match exactly, the only thing that's really bothering me is that weird stacked/double Shift key.

Is there any 1.25u key in the ASDF row under consideration for inclusion?

If there is I'll definitely get behind it.

Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't the shift key (in tab position) and the menu key the wrong profile?

For the small shift key, in the mockup it is in the same row, unless I'm reading the mockup wrong.

As for the menu key, from what I understand the Cherry bottom 2 rows have the same profile, was I mistaken?

[snipars]

What keycaps are being debated? i didn't check the thread for a few days and missed out, are you considering changing the colours in the base set, or just trying to decide the colours on additional keys?

[user 18]

What keycaps are being debated? i didn't check the thread for a few days and missed out, are you considering changing the colours in the base set, or just trying to decide the colours on additional keys?

Just additional keys. The only change being debated in the base set is whether or not to split the ansi keys with front print iso legends into separate top print ansi and top print iso keys

For the small shift key, in the mockup it is in the same row, unless I'm reading the mockup wrong.

You're reading it wrong. It doesn't make sense for there to be a shift key in anything other than R4, because that's where shifts go.

[nathanrosspowell]

JD40/45 support requires too many different sizes and profiles to really include with every group buy. And while they are getting more and more popular, there still isn't anywhere near the adoption rate to include.

I understand, to be honest it's fine if the legends doesn't match exactly, the only thing that's really bothering me is that weird stacked/double Shift key.

Is there any 1.25u key in the ASDF row under consideration for inclusion?

If there is I'll definitely get behind it.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't the shift key (in tab position) and the menu key the wrong profile?

For the small shift key, in the mockup it is in the same row, unless I'm reading the mockup wrong.

As for the menu key, from what I understand the Cherry bottom 2 rows have the same profile, was I mistaken?

Maybe you are right, sir. I'm sure the correct information is out there, but I should really go to bed.. 

[FoC_Tow]

JD40/45 support requires too many different sizes and profiles to really include with every group buy. And while they are getting more and more popular, there still isn't anywhere near the adoption rate to include.

I understand, to be honest it's fine if the legends doesn't match exactly, the only thing that's really bothering me is that weird stacked/double Shift key.

Is there any 1.25u key in the ASDF row under consideration for inclusion?

If there is I'll definitely get behind it.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't the shift key (in tab position) and the menu key the wrong profile?

For the small shift key, in the mockup it is in the same row, unless I'm reading the mockup wrong.

As for the menu key, from what I understand the Cherry bottom 2 rows have the same profile, was I mistaken?

The menu key should fit since the two bottom rows should share the same profile, yes!

The small shift key unfortunately won't fit tho I think. In the mockup its just displayed next to the iso enter since its part of the iso set,
and iso sets need one additional key left of z and therefore the small shift.

Im also unsure if Esc would be the correct profile since the two top rows should be the same profile (number and function row) but different from the qwerty line.
In terms of Delete the set comes with two different ones one of which should fit, incase your are confused because I used Esc and Delete in the same row in my mockups...

I really love the looks of the Hyperfuse JD40 tho! 
I'm sorry to be that guy to say something doesn't match the profile... =/

[lobehold]

Gah, with so many people pointing out that the small shift is in R4 I guess we're missing 1x 1.25u key in R3 for all size and profile to match.

So close.

As for ESC key being different profile than the rest of R2, it doesn't bother me too much since it's not so weird for ESC keys to stand out a bit from the rest of the keys in the same row.

[Jason_IRL]

Just wanted to say that I am extremely excited for whatever shows up at my doorstep. This thread has been awesome, and the hype is real. Bought the set because I liked how it looked as advertised. The ability to add extras is extremely exciting. My only hope is that this type of hype can continue around geekhack. Would love to see some other sets and ideas get as much hype as this one did.

[FoC_Tow]

Gah, with so many people pointing out that the small shift is in R4 I guess we're missing 1x 1.25u key in R3 for all size and profile to match.

So close.

As for ESC key being different profile than the rest of R2, it doesn't bother me too much since it's not so weird for ESC keys to stand out a bit from the rest of the keys in the same row.

Yesh, true Lobe...
One 1.25 R3 would be be missing for correct profile JD40 support (and I guess pretty much only enter in addition to that to make it close to perfect legend wise).

On the other hand, the mismatching Esc as you mentioned isn't that much of an issue and I just checked some pics and there is actually quite a few JD40s with mismatching caps lock as well.
So it can definitely work out even if two keys are the wrong profile I guess... =)

It would definitely be awesome to have full JD40 support (altho I unfortunately don't have one) since I love the looks of Hyperfuse on it.
The JD40 really seems like a all time legend to me, so it would be awesome to make that legacy part of Hyperfuse GMK...

In the end only Bunny can make the decision, and I can imagine this will be really hard to decide as we can only have that many keys.

Here are some links for reference:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47133.450
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-9/accessories/jd40-mechanical-keyboard-t2911349

[Polymer]

I would love to see Cyan on Purple esc/enter but I think with the extras of Purple on Cyan already on boarded, that just adds a lot of extra keys (3 esc and 3 ANSI enters). I think I'd rather see those two spots used for something else. 

1.25 FN makes sense as that is pretty common on a lot of keyboards although I suppose worst case is people can use the menu key and it isn't a big deal to do that IMO...

|\ R1 for HHKB layouts would be nice as it is just one key so relative to other additional layouts it is an easy add on but I do think there aren't many MX HHKB layout users...Still, one key is economic.

3 keys for 75% seems like a lot of extra keys but it probably makes sense to do...while I don't use 75% and would get more use out of Cyan on Purple, I do think 75% support makes more sense to do. 

Nibs - Well, you already know my opinion.  There were GMK GBs with nibs so they couldn't be that unpopular.  I do think they'll get a lot of use and people have already mentioned they'd use them....whether or not people are willing to trade that for other keys, hard to say..  I'd say a good amount of people that have ordered (but not actively participating in this thread) have not even used scoops before and a chunk of them would prefer nibs..that doesn't mean they'll hate scoops but I think it would be nice for a set to feel perfect as well as look perfect....You can use other keys in the place of some to get the layout you want, but it will be harder to swap out the feel (especially on home row) without the right keys..

[Khers]

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