Looks pretty promising! I'll just post a few questions I have:The case looks pretty good, not very exciting or uniqe but still very nice :thumb:
- Is the PCB finalized already? Any chance of using a LiPo or button cell to power this thing instead of batteries?
- Is it compatible with the 5°-case from KBDfans?
- What is the USB port on the PCB for if there is no hardwired mode?
- Is the PCB compatible with Alps switches or is it MX-style switches only?
- Any pricing estimate?
- Shipping timeframe? Group buy or constant supply (to Vendors)?
- Shipped from China or from the US?
Looks pretty neat, a couple of the layout choices are a bit weird imo. The bottom row supports a 3u space but not something like 2.25u/1.25u/2.75u split space? And the fact that it completely lacks support for stepped caps lock is kinda odd too.
it feels weird that there isn't the option for wired operation.Nordic nRF51822 doesn't support USB.
Looks pretty promising! I'll just post a few questions I have:The case looks pretty good, not very exciting or uniqe but still very nice :thumb:
- Is the PCB finalized already? Any chance of using a LiPo or button cell to power this thing instead of batteries?
- Is it compatible with the 5°-case from KBDfans?
- What is the USB port on the PCB for if there is no hardwired mode?
- Is the PCB compatible with Alps switches or is it MX-style switches only?
- Any pricing estimate?
- Shipping timeframe? Group buy or constant supply (to Vendors)?
- Shipped from China or from the US?
1. It's finalized and has been tested for a while. LiPo is not suitable for suck low current devices, not to mention the self-discharge problem. Button cell won't provide long enough battery life. The choice of batteries has been considered seriously so we're not going to change it.
Looks pretty promising! I'll just post a few questions I have:The case looks pretty good, not very exciting or uniqe but still very nice :thumb:
- Is the PCB finalized already? Any chance of using a LiPo or button cell to power this thing instead of batteries?
- Is it compatible with the 5°-case from KBDfans?
- What is the USB port on the PCB for if there is no hardwired mode?
- Is the PCB compatible with Alps switches or is it MX-style switches only?
- Any pricing estimate?
- Shipping timeframe? Group buy or constant supply (to Vendors)?
- Shipped from China or from the US?
1. It's finalized and has been tested for a while. LiPo is not suitable for suck low current devices, not to mention the self-discharge problem. Button cell won't provide long enough battery life. The choice of batteries has been considered seriously so we're not going to change it.
I’m gonna go ahead and call bull**** on this specific claim. AnnePro uses LiPo and it can go months and months without charging. They also use LiPo in kindles now, and those have battery life if like 3+ months.
Looks pretty promising! I'll just post a few questions I have:The case looks pretty good, not very exciting or uniqe but still very nice :thumb:
- Is the PCB finalized already? Any chance of using a LiPo or button cell to power this thing instead of batteries?
- Is it compatible with the 5°-case from KBDfans?
- What is the USB port on the PCB for if there is no hardwired mode?
- Is the PCB compatible with Alps switches or is it MX-style switches only?
- Any pricing estimate?
- Shipping timeframe? Group buy or constant supply (to Vendors)?
- Shipped from China or from the US?
1. It's finalized and has been tested for a while. LiPo is not suitable for suck low current devices, not to mention the self-discharge problem. Button cell won't provide long enough battery life. The choice of batteries has been considered seriously so we're not going to change it.
I’m gonna go ahead and call bull**** on this specific claim. AnnePro uses LiPo and it can go months and months without charging. They also use LiPo in kindles now, and those have battery life if like 3+ months.
Are you releasing the firmware's source by any chance?
Is this compatible with cherry switches? They have a minimum voltage rating of 2 Volts and with just two AAA batteries the low voltage is going to be 1.8 Volts minus whatever the diode takes away (0.5 - 0.2 Volts). It might be useful to do some tests in the low end of the designed Voltage range.
LiPo sure can provide long battery life as along as you use a larger one. The more detailed reasons are:
1. Using LiPo means adding power management chips. Power management chips consume power. Our PCB is very power efficient so we don't hope the power management chip consume even too much power compared with the nrf51822 chip.
2. The low current of our PCB is not suitable for LiPo because the self-discharge problem will be serious. Imagine the battery may consume 300 mAh and self-discharged 100 mAh.
3. The self-discharge on low current devices will also cause degradation of the LiPo
4. Since two AAA battery can already last for months, we think it's not necessary to use LiPo and power management chips to add the complexity.
We've been discussed with Mickey Team for many times regarding the battery problem. They're very professional embedded engineers and they've worked on BLE devices for many years. We value their expertise. I'm not saying Anne Pro or Kindle are not professional. They may have their reasons. I'm gonna call bull**** easily before I understand everything completely.
LiPo sure can provide long battery life as along as you use a larger one. The more detailed reasons are:
1. Using LiPo means adding power management chips. Power management chips consume power. Our PCB is very power efficient so we don't hope the power management chip consume even too much power compared with the nrf51822 chip.
2. The low current of our PCB is not suitable for LiPo because the self-discharge problem will be serious. Imagine the battery may consume 300 mAh and self-discharged 100 mAh.
3. The self-discharge on low current devices will also cause degradation of the LiPo
4. Since two AAA battery can already last for months, we think it's not necessary to use LiPo and power management chips to add the complexity.
We've been discussed with Mickey Team for many times regarding the battery problem. They're very professional embedded engineers and they've worked on BLE devices for many years. We value their expertise. I'm not saying Anne Pro or Kindle are not professional. They may have their reasons. I'm gonna call bull**** easily before I understand everything completely.
The Self-Discharge rate of LiPo is ~5% a MONTH (Bear in mind that's ~1 YEAR to get to 50% battery while idle). That's WAY WAY better than the ~25% rate of NiCd and NiMh. Power efficiency is great, but maximizing power efficiency without cause and to the detriment of other function is NOT a good thing. Is there any scenario where anyone NEEDS 6 months of battery life for their keyboard and would have no access to charge even just once or twice in that window? Are you designing keyboards for use by the military? Consumers value convenience. Being able to charge your keyboard with your computer rather than having to hunt down AAA batteries you may or may not own is a tremendous value add. It's not as if keyboards are ever used in scenarios where there would be not available device to power them.
I would pay MORE MONEY for a keyboard with a battery integrated. Yes, AAA works, and there are likely many design reasons why it is a good choice. But the best engineered product is not always the best product and the best product is not always the best selling product.
I'm not arguing that your design is less efficient. I 100% believe you that it is more efficient, but you are well past the point of diminishing returns. You are making meaningless gains that don't actually make for a better product, just a better spec sheet.
You can call bull**** all you want on my claims about the kindle, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a lipo battery on a device smaller than a keyboard with a 2 month idle battery time.
Want a better example? My Logitech MX Master 2 IS a BLE device and has a 500mAh LiPo and the battery again lasts about 2 months.
To be clear, I really want a nice Bluetooth keyboard, just not nearly enough to want to mess with AAA batteries. I finally got rid of my last few devices that needed AA/AAA batteries and so I don't even stock them anymore at home. Everything seems to have a micro usb charge port these days. I hope eventually someone will make something similar without the hassle of traditional alkaline batteries.
LiPo sure can provide long battery life as along as you use a larger one. The more detailed reasons are:
1. Using LiPo means adding power management chips. Power management chips consume power. Our PCB is very power efficient so we don't hope the power management chip consume even too much power compared with the nrf51822 chip.
2. The low current of our PCB is not suitable for LiPo because the self-discharge problem will be serious. Imagine the battery may consume 300 mAh and self-discharged 100 mAh.
3. The self-discharge on low current devices will also cause degradation of the LiPo
4. Since two AAA battery can already last for months, we think it's not necessary to use LiPo and power management chips to add the complexity.
We've been discussed with Mickey Team for many times regarding the battery problem. They're very professional embedded engineers and they've worked on BLE devices for many years. We value their expertise. I'm not saying Anne Pro or Kindle are not professional. They may have their reasons. I'm gonna call bull**** easily before I understand everything completely.
The Self-Discharge rate of LiPo is ~5% a MONTH (Bear in mind that's ~1 YEAR to get to 50% battery while idle). That's WAY WAY better than the ~25% rate of NiCd and NiMh. Power efficiency is great, but maximizing power efficiency without cause and to the detriment of other function is NOT a good thing. Is there any scenario where anyone NEEDS 6 months of battery life for their keyboard and would have no access to charge even just once or twice in that window? Are you designing keyboards for use by the military? Consumers value convenience. Being able to charge your keyboard with your computer rather than having to hunt down AAA batteries you may or may not own is a tremendous value add. It's not as if keyboards are ever used in scenarios where there would be not available device to power them.
I would pay MORE MONEY for a keyboard with a battery integrated. Yes, AAA works, and there are likely many design reasons why it is a good choice. But the best engineered product is not always the best product and the best product is not always the best selling product.
I'm not arguing that your design is less efficient. I 100% believe you that it is more efficient, but you are well past the point of diminishing returns. You are making meaningless gains that don't actually make for a better product, just a better spec sheet.
You can call bull**** all you want on my claims about the kindle, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a lipo battery on a device smaller than a keyboard with a 2 month idle battery time.
Want a better example? My Logitech MX Master 2 IS a BLE device and has a 500mAh LiPo and the battery again lasts about 2 months.
To be clear, I really want a nice Bluetooth keyboard, just not nearly enough to want to mess with AAA batteries. I finally got rid of my last few devices that needed AA/AAA batteries and so I don't even stock them anymore at home. Everything seems to have a micro usb charge port these days. I hope eventually someone will make something similar without the hassle of traditional alkaline batteries.
I don't want to see a debate here for AAA vs LiPo.I like this approach
Please don't talk about LiPo anymore. WE ARE NOT GONNA CHANGE TO LIPO.
If you don't like AAA batteries, this PCB is not for you.
LiPo sure can provide long battery life as along as you use a larger one. The more detailed reasons are:
1. Using LiPo means adding power management chips. Power management chips consume power. Our PCB is very power efficient so we don't hope the power management chip consume even too much power compared with the nrf51822 chip.
2. The low current of our PCB is not suitable for LiPo because the self-discharge problem will be serious. Imagine the battery may consume 300 mAh and self-discharged 100 mAh.
3. The self-discharge on low current devices will also cause degradation of the LiPo
4. Since two AAA battery can already last for months, we think it's not necessary to use LiPo and power management chips to add the complexity.
We've been discussed with Mickey Team for many times regarding the battery problem. They're very professional embedded engineers and they've worked on BLE devices for many years. We value their expertise. I'm not saying Anne Pro or Kindle are not professional. They may have their reasons. I'm gonna call bull**** easily before I understand everything completely.
The Self-Discharge rate of LiPo is ~5% a MONTH (Bear in mind that's ~1 YEAR to get to 50% battery while idle). That's WAY WAY better than the ~25% rate of NiCd and NiMh. Power efficiency is great, but maximizing power efficiency without cause and to the detriment of other function is NOT a good thing. Is there any scenario where anyone NEEDS 6 months of battery life for their keyboard and would have no access to charge even just once or twice in that window? Are you designing keyboards for use by the military? Consumers value convenience. Being able to charge your keyboard with your computer rather than having to hunt down AAA batteries you may or may not own is a tremendous value add. It's not as if keyboards are ever used in scenarios where there would be not available device to power them.
I would pay MORE MONEY for a keyboard with a battery integrated. Yes, AAA works, and there are likely many design reasons why it is a good choice. But the best engineered product is not always the best product and the best product is not always the best selling product.
I'm not arguing that your design is less efficient. I 100% believe you that it is more efficient, but you are well past the point of diminishing returns. You are making meaningless gains that don't actually make for a better product, just a better spec sheet.
You can call bull**** all you want on my claims about the kindle, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a lipo battery on a device smaller than a keyboard with a 2 month idle battery time.
Want a better example? My Logitech MX Master 2 IS a BLE device and has a 500mAh LiPo and the battery again lasts about 2 months.
To be clear, I really want a nice Bluetooth keyboard, just not nearly enough to want to mess with AAA batteries. I finally got rid of my last few devices that needed AA/AAA batteries and so I don't even stock them anymore at home. Everything seems to have a micro usb charge port these days. I hope eventually someone will make something similar without the hassle of traditional alkaline batteries.
I don't know about battery tech specs and etc... but speaking as an end user, I much prefer AA/AAA battery for input devices.
Clean desk setup is the main reason for me to go wireless/bluetooth, I don't want to have a cable around my desk just to charge the keyboard, even once a few month. I'd rather have a AA/AAA battery charger hidden in the corner of my room and have the batteries ready to be used. Also, finding the right rechargeable battery replacement is not as easy as AA/AAA if it goes bad.
I was tempted to upgrade to MX Master 2, but decided to stay with my power hungry G700 because of above reason.
Same goes to MX Ergo vs M570.
That 4 months is about the same as for me when I noticed chatter. I chose to go with a three battery plus low µC regulator in order to circumvent the problem completely. One option that I should have in hindsight taken would be to use a LiFePo battery, they require no additional regulator as the charge voltage for them is below 3.7 Volts.Is this compatible with cherry switches? They have a minimum voltage rating of 2 Volts and with just two AAA batteries the low voltage is going to be 1.8 Volts minus whatever the diode takes away (0.5 - 0.2 Volts). It might be useful to do some tests in the low end of the designed Voltage range.
Hi pomk. It's only compatible with cherry switches. The PCB actually has been tested for one year so far by a small group of people. The firmware has been updated several times to fix bugs. Some one have reported missing keys when battery is low but that was after 4-6 months normal usage. I forgot to mention only AAA alkaline battery will work, not rechargeable batteries because of the voltage difference.
I was interested in your projects. Your discussions with several other buddies in the wireless GH60 thread were very helpful!
That 4 months is about the same as for me when I noticed chatter. I chose to go with a three battery plus low µC regulator in order to circumvent the problem completely. One option that I should have in hindsight taken would be to use a LiFePo battery, they require no additional regulator as the charge voltage for them is below 3.7 Volts.Is this compatible with cherry switches? They have a minimum voltage rating of 2 Volts and with just two AAA batteries the low voltage is going to be 1.8 Volts minus whatever the diode takes away (0.5 - 0.2 Volts). It might be useful to do some tests in the low end of the designed Voltage range.
Hi pomk. It's only compatible with cherry switches. The PCB actually has been tested for one year so far by a small group of people. The firmware has been updated several times to fix bugs. Some one have reported missing keys when battery is low but that was after 4-6 months normal usage. I forgot to mention only AAA alkaline battery will work, not rechargeable batteries because of the voltage difference.
I was interested in your projects. Your discussions with several other buddies in the wireless GH60 thread were very helpful!
How have you decided to approach firmware and/or layout updates? I noticed that you have connected the data lines from the USB connector to the µC, so maybe you have made some vUSB implementation?
I don't want to see a debate here for AAA vs LiPo.
Please don't talk about LiPo anymore. WE ARE NOT GONNA CHANGE TO LIPO.
If you don't like AAA batteries, this PCB is not for you.
+1
Personally, I am not sure why I may need a wireless mechanical keyboard, as they are always hooked to my docking stations at home and at work and I never need to unplug them. While traveling I use the laptop keyboard which is not really that bad (Thinkpad). However, I respect the proposal as a novel approach for a blue-tooth mechanical keyboard, along with being programmable is a very welcome feature.
+1
Personally, I am not sure why I may need a wireless mechanical keyboard, as they are always hooked to my docking stations at home and at work and I never need to unplug them. While traveling I use the laptop keyboard which is not really that bad (Thinkpad). However, I respect the proposal as a novel approach for a blue-tooth mechanical keyboard, along with being programmable is a very welcome feature.
Thanks.
The reason I like wireless mechanical keyboards is that I hope my desk extremely clean. Here is a photo of my current desk setup.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pz2ammY.jpg)
I'm using a Filco Convertible 2 TKL keyboard with aluminum top case and a MX570 Trackball mouse. They're both wireless and they all have very long battery life. I feel refreshing when I work on such a clean desk. When I want to read a book or have some snacks, I just push the keyboard and mouse aside without worrying about the cables. A clean desk without cables grants freedom to me.
I don't know what other reasons why people like wireless keyboard, but I've heard many have the same reason as mine.
+1
Personally, I am not sure why I may need a wireless mechanical keyboard, as they are always hooked to my docking stations at home and at work and I never need to unplug them. While traveling I use the laptop keyboard which is not really that bad (Thinkpad). However, I respect the proposal as a novel approach for a blue-tooth mechanical keyboard, along with being programmable is a very welcome feature.
Thanks.
The reason I like wireless mechanical keyboards is that I hope my desk extremely clean. Here is a photo of my current desk setup.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pz2ammY.jpg)
I'm using a Filco Convertible 2 TKL keyboard with aluminum top case and a MX570 Trackball mouse. They're both wireless and they all have very long battery life. I feel refreshing when I work on such a clean desk. When I want to read a book or have some snacks, I just push the keyboard and mouse aside without worrying about the cables. A clean desk without cables grants freedom to me.
I don't know what other reasons why people like wireless keyboard, but I've heard many have the same reason as mine.
I'm liking your Filco approach, does the aluminum top just block off the USB port and just leave the battery area accessible?
This looks awesome! My annie pro SUCKS, it feels like a child's toy and the BT range is like 5 feet, hopefully this one will have a longer BT range.
Do you know the bluetooth range by any chance?
Also is there some type of low power sleep mode? So it will save battery life overnight etc?
This looks awesome! My annie pro SUCKS, it feels like a child's toy and the BT range is like 5 feet, hopefully this one will have a longer BT range.
Do you know the bluetooth range by any chance?
Also is there some type of low power sleep mode? So it will save battery life overnight etc?
We've never measured the maximum range precisely because no one would use a keyboard more than 10 feet far away from the computer. Without the case, or with plastic case, it can work 30 feet away but there might be chatters at that distance. Basically I believe the working range won't be a problem for normal usage.
The very first version of firmware doesn't support sleep mode and can last 1.5-2 months. The latest version firmware change the PCB to slow broadcasting mode after 30 seconds without pressing keys, then stop broadcasting after another 30 seconds without pressing keys. Once you press any keys again, the PCB starts to work again.
This looks awesome! My annie pro SUCKS, it feels like a child's toy and the BT range is like 5 feet, hopefully this one will have a longer BT range.
Do you know the bluetooth range by any chance?
Also is there some type of low power sleep mode? So it will save battery life overnight etc?
We've never measured the maximum range precisely because no one would use a keyboard more than 10 feet far away from the computer. Without the case, or with plastic case, it can work 30 feet away but there might be chatters at that distance. Basically I believe the working range won't be a problem for normal usage.
The very first version of firmware doesn't support sleep mode and can last 1.5-2 months. The latest version firmware change the PCB to slow broadcasting mode after 30 seconds without pressing keys, then stop broadcasting after another 30 seconds without pressing keys. Once you press any keys again, the PCB starts to work again.
Yea, the reason I was asking about range is because I use these BT 60% boards as a home theater PC keyboard. It sits on my coffee table in front of my couch approx 7-8 feet away from the receiver dongle.
Update:
I have a rough estimation for the pricing now.
- Presoldered PCB: $50 without shipping
- Aluminum case (without brass weight): $90 or less without shipping
These are rough estimations so they can be changed. The firmware and PCB is still being improved. We're ordering some equipment for analyzing on-air packets and something else. The server for generating firmware also need to be upgraded. I prefer to start a small and quick GB first in December.
For CONUS buyers, 20 or 30 PCBs can be shipped directly from me. I'll cover the international shipping because I'll have packages shipping from China anyway. Not sure if 20 PCBs will be sold out though.
For other buyers and buyers for aluminum cases, packages will be shipped from China.
Update:
I have a rough estimation for the pricing now.
- Presoldered PCB: $50 without shipping
- Aluminum case (without brass weight): $90 or less without shipping
These are rough estimations so they can be changed. The firmware and PCB is still being improved. We're ordering some equipment for analyzing on-air packets and something else. The server for generating firmware also need to be upgraded. I prefer to start a small and quick GB first in December.
For CONUS buyers, 20 or 30 PCBs can be shipped directly from me. I'll cover the international shipping because I'll have packages shipping from China anyway. Not sure if 20 PCBs will be sold out though.
For other buyers and buyers for aluminum cases, packages will be shipped from China.
is there any chance that you might develop a plastic case down the road? I just figure that many people who want a Bluetooth keyboard need to either travel with it or move it around more (say, as a device to use on the couch in front of the tv), and something lightweight would be nice.
is there any chance that you might develop a plastic case down the road? I just figure that many people who want a Bluetooth keyboard need to either travel with it or move it around more (say, as a device to use on the couch in front of the tv), and something lightweight would be nice.
We can design a plastic case, but we're not able to manufacture them. The moulds for plastic injection are very expensive. It's only doable if we can get a lot of orders. So actually the aluminum case is a kind of budget choice for a small scale GB.
Fortunately you can always use the normal cheap plastic case like this (https://imgur.com/zmPZlkB) or sandwich case like this (https://imgur.com/a/QbagC). I have all three types of case and like the aluminum case best. The aluminum case is not that heavy. The slots in the case actually was meant to reduce the weight, not for adding brass weights.
I imagine someone asked already, but will the bluetooth be able to work with an alu case?
I know some people have issues with their anne pros that they put in alu cases
I imagine someone asked already, but will the bluetooth be able to work with an alu case?
I know some people have issues with their anne pros that they put in alu cases
I imagine someone asked already, but will the bluetooth be able to work with an alu case?
I know some people have issues with their anne pros that they put in alu cases
I imagine that any full metal case will like a farday cage (since metals are very good conductors) and prevent any bluetooth signal from getting into the receiver.
I think the entire concept is fascinating, and the render of the case looks good, just wondering what could be the possible layout, or maybe if there would be 65% board or even 75% in future.
I really like the idea of a wireless 60%, but just a newby question on my part if the controller doesn't support bluetooth + wired connection would it be possible to add a toggle switch to the bluetooth? To toggle on and off and allow for wired connections?
I think the entire concept is fascinating, and the render of the case looks good, just wondering what could be the possible layout, or maybe if there would be 65% board or even 75% in future.
Those are not renders actually. Those are photos of our first prototype.
Several of us are big fans of wireless keyboards but I don't see a lot of interests here so far. This PCB was designed for ourselves at first. It's 60% because we were lazy to design a case for it. We still did though. Other layouts or even a controller (like teensy) are possible, but not in the near future.
I think the entire concept is fascinating, and the render of the case looks good, just wondering what could be the possible layout, or maybe if there would be 65% board or even 75% in future.
Those are not renders actually. Those are photos of our first prototype.
Several of us are big fans of wireless keyboards but I don't see a lot of interests here so far. This PCB was designed for ourselves at first. It's 60% because we were lazy to design a case for it. We still did though. Other layouts or even a controller (like teensy) are possible, but not in the near future.
In this case it sound more promising! I think I am not that oppose to the 60% design, just gettting used to 66% or TKL these day, but the current PCB design seems to already covers most of the popular possible layout and I think this is great. One thing I would hope for is not only support for mx switch but maybe also matias/alps as I love how the matias click and quiet click feels, and maybe kalih low profile to make a very slim profile, everyday carry board ?
Really liking the change to layouts so far. SplitBackSpace and SplitRightShift are such a welcome change.
Really, really interested now. I had a good experience with my Anne Pro but loved HHKB Layout. If this can do both AND fit in a case that has blockers this will be an instant buy for me.
I'd love to see it in a Tina-C but I think the acrylic diffuser will get in the way.
Maybe focus on Standard 60% for R1 to get it out there since you already have a good design.
R2 HHKB Blockers <3?
Really liking the change to layouts so far. SplitBackSpace and SplitRightShift are such a welcome change.
Really, really interested now. I had a good experience with my Anne Pro but loved HHKB Layout. If this can do both AND fit in a case that has blockers this will be an instant buy for me.
I'd love to see it in a Tina-C but I think the acrylic diffuser will get in the way.
Maybe focus on Standard 60% for R1 to get it out there since you already have a good design.
R2 HHKB Blockers <3?
Thanks for the suggestions!
This project is mainly around the Bluetooth PCB. We're targeting the people who love wireless keyboards. Developing a good Bluetooth PCB is much more difficult than developing a ps2avr or TMK/QMK PCB. It's also much more difficult than re-designing the case.
The current case was designed for a low price ($90 or so) such that you can have a decent aluminum case for the Bluetooth PCB instead of a cheap plastic case. HHKB style is fancy but will cost more. R2 HHKB Blockers sounds a good plan, if there're enough interests of course.
Hmmm?
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=4893672&mid=board_Lsno50
Hmmm?
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=4893672&mid=board_Lsno50
Yes, we've sent a prototype PCB to him as he asked.
Hmmm?
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=4893672&mid=board_Lsno50
Yes, we've sent a prototype PCB to him as he asked.
Epic :)
if you can get this two-tone design with combos like, say, black + red or black + cyan, it would be REALLY neat.
I prefer to start a small and quick GB first in December.
I prefer to start a small and quick GB first in December.
Any updates on this? :)
I prefer to start a small and quick GB first in December.
Any updates on this? :)
bumping, still waiting for updates
one CNC aluminum SSK case
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Some drafts of new designs
New case design:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/uVLLmPF.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/01vnESS.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/o9oF3Zr.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Nes0HKm.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pPf5wxr.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7FFm9NA.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Wsebzdr.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/c1dlNSn.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5GYSPtP.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0UCKauU.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mcO72ce.png)
Features:
- HHKB layout top case (7u spacebar)
- integrated plate
- Acrylic back plate for bluetooth PCB or aluminum back plate for normal USB PCB
New case design:Love the new design!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/uVLLmPF.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/01vnESS.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/o9oF3Zr.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Nes0HKm.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pPf5wxr.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7FFm9NA.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Wsebzdr.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/c1dlNSn.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5GYSPtP.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0UCKauU.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mcO72ce.png)
Features:
- HHKB layout top case (7u spacebar)
- integrated plate
- Acrylic back plate for bluetooth PCB or aluminum back plate for normal USB PCB
I really miss that asymmetrical tow tone case design, but seems like that's not gonna happen.
I really miss that asymmetrical tow tone case design, but seems like that's not gonna happen.
just buy 2 cases. gotem.
This project was delayed a lot because I was running another GB for my friend Alsoran. Now it will be back on track since AL1 GB will be all fulfilled soon.Is the case supports Mickeyboard Minila layout?
To answer some question:
- Layouts: 7u HHKB top case and GH60 top case
- GB when: May 1st
and what price do you expect on new design?
Is the case supports Mickeyboard Minila layout?
This looks like the perfect work keyboard! I hope the case can support the normal 60% layout too and stuff
+1
Personally, I am not sure why I may need a wireless mechanical keyboard, as they are always hooked to my docking stations at home and at work and I never need to unplug them. While traveling I use the laptop keyboard which is not really that bad (Thinkpad). However, I respect the proposal as a novel approach for a blue-tooth mechanical keyboard, along with being programmable is a very welcome feature.
Thanks.
The reason I like wireless mechanical keyboards is that I hope my desk extremely clean. Here is a photo of my current desk setup.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pz2ammY.jpg)
I'm using a Filco Convertible 2 TKL keyboard with aluminum top case and a MX570 Trackball mouse. They're both wireless and they all have very long battery life. I feel refreshing when I work on such a clean desk. When I want to read a book or have some snacks, I just push the keyboard and mouse aside without worrying about the cables. A clean desk without cables grants freedom to me.
I don't know what other reasons why people like wireless keyboard, but I've heard many have the same reason as mine.