Topre Appreciation Thread!

[Michael]

I'm really into my 45g right now, but haven't tried a 55g..someone feel free to let me borrow one

I'm curious, daerid/bro caps bro, which mx switches do you like the best?

Edit- Also, where can one grab a 104 uniform?

Ergo clear is pretty much the only cherry switch I can stand. I don't even use Cherry boards much anymore. With my hhkb at work, and 55g rf at home, no room for a lesser species on my desk

[Macsmasher]

Browns, hands down. Blues are a bit behind browns. But even browns start to make my knuckles sore after a couple hours

+1 here.

[lazerpointer]

I'm now getting used to the RF 55g. And it just has changed for the better in feel. I may end up modding it with the red thin WASD o-rings.

Edit;
browns are my favorite MX as well. Waiting for the WASD v2 so I can get a barebones one and throw the Vortex caps on it.

[Macsmasher]

I'm really into my 45g right now, but haven't tried a 55g..someone feel free to let me borrow one

I'm curious, daerid/bro caps bro, which mx switches do you like the best?

Edit- Also, where can one grab a 104 uniform?

http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rf104&pid=yk2100

45g uniform. It's the "high-profile" version, but it still has the same 4mm key travel. I think there's another thread around here on it. Not sure if anybody likes it. I didn't read any of the comments about it.

[Halverson]

I'm really into my 45g right now, but haven't tried a 55g..someone feel free to let me borrow one

I'm curious, daerid/bro caps bro, which mx switches do you like the best?

Edit- Also, where can one grab a 104 uniform?

http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rf104&pid=yk2100

45g uniform. It's the "high-profile" version, but it still has the same 4mm key travel. I think there's another thread around here on it. Not sure if anybody likes it. I didn't read any of the comments about it.

Sadly that ones already out of stock.

[Dubsgalore]

There is no cheap way to try topres...i'd like to try them out.

[lazerpointer]

There is no cheap way to try topres...i'd like to try them out.

About a month ago I bought a type s for 350

A few days ago I sold it for 340

I would call that a negligible difference

[MJ45]

I've been considering a RealForce 87u but I'm torn between 45g uniform vs. a 55g uniform. I have a HHKB Pro 2 and love it for typing but I like my Cherry MX black TKL for gaming but extended typing gets too fatiguing. Would a 55g be a good choice for a all purpose use, since I already have a 45g HHKB. I would appreciate any input from the Topre experts in this thread.

After all the input from this thread I ordered a 87u 55g unifrom from EK and can't wait to check it out. I will post later with my feelings after a few a days of use. Thanks to all for the useful info on this thread.

[morpheus]

I've been considering a RealForce 87u but I'm torn between 45g uniform vs. a 55g uniform. I have a HHKB Pro 2 and love it for typing but I like my Cherry MX black TKL for gaming but extended typing gets too fatiguing. Would a 55g be a good choice for a all purpose use, since I already have a 45g HHKB. I would appreciate any input from the Topre experts in this thread.

After all the input from this thread I ordered a 87u 55g unifrom from EK and can't wait to check it out. I will post later with my feelings after a few a days of use. Thanks to all for the useful info on this thread.

Yes, I'm on the verge of getting a Realforce...I would also like to know which feels better. If the 55g causes fatiguing, I probably will get the 45g.

[MJ45]

I've been considering a RealForce 87u but I'm torn between 45g uniform vs. a 55g uniform. I have a HHKB Pro 2 and love it for typing but I like my Cherry MX black TKL for gaming but extended typing gets too fatiguing. Would a 55g be a good choice for a all purpose use, since I already have a 45g HHKB. I would appreciate any input from the Topre experts in this thread.

After all the input from this thread I ordered a 87u 55g unifrom from EK and can't wait to check it out. I will post later with my feelings after a few a days of use. Thanks to all for the useful info on this thread.

Yes, I'm on the verge of getting a Realforce...I would also like to know which feels better. If the 55g causes fatiguing, I probably will get the 45g.

Since I have a HHKB I use for textual input I think a 55g RealForce will be good for all purpose use like web surfing gaming etc. (I hope)

[daerid]

Yes, I'm on the verge of getting a Realforce...I would also like to know which feels better. If the 55g causes fatiguing, I probably will get the 45g.

I can see there possibly being a problem with fatigue if you require very light switches, or have some issue with your fingers/knuckles requiring a super light touch. In my personal view though, if you can type all day on browns/blues, then the 55g will be just fine. It mainly depends on how much tactility you prefer. The 55g has a much more crisp and snappy feeling to the key, whereas the 45g is much more subdued (almost linear on some keys).

[morpheus]

Yes, I'm on the verge of getting a Realforce...I would also like to know which feels better. If the 55g causes fatiguing, I probably will get the 45g.

I can see there possibly being a problem with fatigue if you require very light switches, or have some issue with your fingers/knuckles requiring a super light touch. In my personal view though, if you can type all day on browns/blues, then the 55g will be just fine. It mainly depends on how much tactility you prefer. The 55g has a much more crisp and snappy feeling to the key, whereas the 45g is much more subdued (almost linear on some keys).

I see. My muscle memory is most adjusted to browns/blues, so I guess it should be fine. I tried blacks and they cause me fatigue which is why I don't use it. Buckling Springs, while are insanely fun to type on, also get tiring after typing all day. I think it's because I bottom out quite frequently. Thanks for the advice though!

[nar]

There is no cheap way to try topres...i'd like to try them out.

About a month ago I bought a type s for 350

A few days ago I sold it for 340

I would call that a negligible difference

You can also get a few cheap deals for realforces if you buy from Amazon Japan (and use a service like Tenso). Something like a Japanese Layout Beige Topre for $165 shipped or something like that (I think that specific deal has sold out though).

[dreamingftw]

Coming from a 45g to a 55g, the 55g does feel sturdier with better feedback on each key press. I bought my 45g a couple years ago afraid that the 55g might be too heavy. I should've gotten the 55g in the first place because that's where Topre's should be at. Though, I probably would've bought the 45g  just to know how it is. If want to try out topre, go for the 55g. My favorite switch by far right now. Haven't touched an MX switch for a week now and that's a long time for me. lol

[daerid]

<evil laugh />

[Michael]

<username>daerid-55g</username>

[babyhands]

Hey guys, I really didn't feel like reading through 12 pages, nor did I think it was acceptable to start a new thread when this exists:
I am a gamer, mostly sc2 (fairly high level, and only getting better) and dota. How are topre's for gaming? I first was interested in mechanical keyboards for the NKRO, because when playing mmo's my old keyboard wouldn't be able to register all of the buttons i was pressing. Any who, I am assuming topre's don't have NKRO? I guess it isn't that big of a deal because now that I play sc2 mainly I don't really need it, but this still stands, how do you guys feel they are for gaming? Also, maybe its just me, but in the pictures the f keys look kinda far away from the number row. As my username suggests, I do have small hands, and like my keybinds as close together as possible, so are the f keys really farther away than normal keyboards (like the ducky TKL i am typing on right now), or is it just the pictures? Also, people say these boards feel like a high quality rubber dome, but that just doesn't make sense to me. The reason I like my cherry browns and blues so much is because they are almost crispy, they almost feel magnetic if that makes sense? Rubber domes are the opposite, and I am hoping Topres aren't like rubber domes, but instead they have a super crisp, tactile, feel like browns and blues?

[Macsmasher]

Ok daerid and Caps, knock it off. You're breeding discontent among us variable boys. I can see this may come down to an Anchorman street fight...

[Michael]

55g 4LYF3!!!!!

[jdcarpe]

Also, people say these boards feel like a high quality rubber dome, but that just doesn't make sense to me. The reason I like my cherry browns and blues so much is because they are almost crispy, they almost feel magnetic if that makes sense? Rubber domes are the opposite, and I am hoping Topres aren't like rubber domes, but instead they have a super crisp, tactile, feel like browns and blues?

They say that, because it's true. Hope all you want. If you don't want to feel like you are typing on the best quality, smoothest feeling rubber dome you ever tried, don't get a Topre. The rubber dome, er cup, is what gives a Topre switch its tactile feeling and all of its mechanical action. The coiled spring is only there to provide capacitance for the electrical circuit.

I'm not hating!

You could give Topre a try. You might like it. You might even love it. You probably won't hate it. But it doesn't feel anything at all like a Cherry MX switch, brown or otherwise.

I now return you to the Topre worshippers club.

[fuzzybaffy]

God, I f*cking love my Topre. Its super silky key travel, and overall superior build quality of the switches is letting me type more accurately. Definitely upping my WPMs in typeracer. I just recently typed my best tonight at 138WPM.



I don't know about you folks with the 55g Topres. I find the 45g to be just perfect.

[Macsmasher]

God, I f*cking love my Topre. Its super silky key travel, and overall superior build quality of the switches is letting me type more accurately. Definitely upping my WPMs in typeracer. I just recently typed my best tonight at 138WPM.

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I don't know about you folks with the 55g Topres. I find the 45g to be just perfect. :p

You know, I'm so friggin happy with my RF variable, I'm wondering what all these 55g troublemakers are squalling about. With that said, all this squalling makes me want to try a 55g board.

I remember when I dated Terry. It was the best EVER! Then I met Cheryl, who could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch, and 'insisted' on doing so. Driving, bathroom at a get-together (that's a 'party' for you young trout sniffers), tent camping, wherever. She wasn't happy unless I reached the goal in the place through which she spoke. Well, obviously my benchmark for 'perfect' was reset at that point.

My point is...never think you've arrived at the 'perfect' place. It's only 'perfect' at that point in time because you've not had better...yet.

Never stop seeking...but while seeking, always be happy with what you have. Contentment is a choice, not a reaction.   :D

[fuzzybaffy]

Haha... YES, it is a choice! And I choose to keep my 45g.

[morpheus]

Coming from a 45g to a 55g, the 55g does feel sturdier with better feedback on each key press. I bought my 45g a couple years ago afraid that the 55g might be too heavy. I should've gotten the 55g in the first place because that's where Topre's should be at. Though, I probably would've bought the 45g  just to know how it is. If want to try out topre, go for the 55g. My favorite switch by far right now. Haven't touched an MX switch for a week now and that's a long time for me. lol

Just a few questions (anybody can answer this for me)...

1. Are you a heavy handed typist?
2. What is the difference in feeling between a 45g and 55g? Is there a lot of difference?
3. Did you experience any fatigue with the 55g?
4. Is it as stiff as the Cherry Blacks?

Thanks.

[Michael]

Coming from a 45g to a 55g, the 55g does feel sturdier with better feedback on each key press. I bought my 45g a couple years ago afraid that the 55g might be too heavy. I should've gotten the 55g in the first place because that's where Topre's should be at. Though, I probably would've bought the 45g  just to know how it is. If want to try out topre, go for the 55g. My favorite switch by far right now. Haven't touched an MX switch for a week now and that's a long time for me. lol

Just a few questions (anybody can answer this for me)...

1. Are you a heavy handed typist?
2. What is the difference in feeling between a 45g and 55g? Is there a lot of difference?
3. Did you experience any fatigue with the 55g?
4. Is it as stiff as the Cherry Blacks?

Thanks.

1. Yes, but felt more fatigue with cherry MX blacks
2. 55g is snappier. The higher pressure pops back fast and strong after depression, I think this might be what reduces fatigue for me
3. None
4. No, I don't think it is. Even in actual pressure weight, it is not (spring weight vs rubber resistance value)

[morpheus]

Coming from a 45g to a 55g, the 55g does feel sturdier with better feedback on each key press. I bought my 45g a couple years ago afraid that the 55g might be too heavy. I should've gotten the 55g in the first place because that's where Topre's should be at. Though, I probably would've bought the 45g  just to know how it is. If want to try out topre, go for the 55g. My favorite switch by far right now. Haven't touched an MX switch for a week now and that's a long time for me. lol

Just a few questions (anybody can answer this for me)...

1. Are you a heavy handed typist?
2. What is the difference in feeling between a 45g and 55g? Is there a lot of difference?
3. Did you experience any fatigue with the 55g?
4. Is it as stiff as the Cherry Blacks?

Thanks.

1. Yes, but felt more fatigue with cherry MX blacks
2. 55g is snappier. The higher pressure pops back fast and strong after depression, I think this might be what reduces fatigue for me
3. None
4. No, I don't think it is. Even in actual pressure weight, it is not (spring weight vs rubber resistance value)

1. I'm not a heavy handed typist by any means. I do bottom out frequently. Will it be hard for me to adjust coming from Browns and Blues?
2. How is the initial depression of the key on the 55g? Is there a lot more resistance than let's say the Cherry Browns or Blues?

[Michael]

Coming from a 45g to a 55g, the 55g does feel sturdier with better feedback on each key press. I bought my 45g a couple years ago afraid that the 55g might be too heavy. I should've gotten the 55g in the first place because that's where Topre's should be at. Though, I probably would've bought the 45g  just to know how it is. If want to try out topre, go for the 55g. My favorite switch by far right now. Haven't touched an MX switch for a week now and that's a long time for me. lol

Just a few questions (anybody can answer this for me)...

1. Are you a heavy handed typist?
2. What is the difference in feeling between a 45g and 55g? Is there a lot of difference?
3. Did you experience any fatigue with the 55g?
4. Is it as stiff as the Cherry Blacks?

Thanks.

1. Yes, but felt more fatigue with cherry MX blacks
2. 55g is snappier. The higher pressure pops back fast and strong after depression, I think this might be what reduces fatigue for me
3. None
4. No, I don't think it is. Even in actual pressure weight, it is not (spring weight vs rubber resistance value)

1. I'm not a heavy handed typist by any means. I do bottom out frequently. Will it be hard for me to adjust coming from Browns and Blues?
2. How is the initial depression of the key on the 55g? Is there a lot more resistance than let's say the Cherry Browns or Blues?

Definitely more than blues and browns, but not by much. I switch between 45g hhkb and 55g RF on a daily basis. I actually appreciate the higher pressure from the 55g for long periods of typing.


I am sure my case isn't the same as everyone else's, but you could definitely pick up a 55g, try it out, and if you don't like it, sell it again for minimal loss.

[Halverson]

Anyone here rock uniform 30g?

I tried one and for some reason loved it.

[Atakp]

Anyone here rock uniform 30g?

I tried one and for some reason loved it.

I used my 89s almost exclusively for a few months and enjoyed it for the most part, but it hasn't seen much desk time since I got the hhkb

[ktownhero]

Well, it's been a few weeks of using my 87U Silent full-time, coding all day.  I absolutely love this keyboard, even though it's quiet, the muddled "clunk" of each key press is satisfying.  But, most importantly, I haven't had the slightest bit of hand fatigue even after writing Java code for 8+ hours at a time. 

I'd love to get one of these at home, for sure.  I'm tempted to try a HHKB, but I'm a little worried about the different layout and how I'll adapt to that.  I do use Vi all day, so the layout is ideal for that, but at the same time I'm just not sure how I feel about non-standard layouts in general. 

My only complaint with the Realforce board is the seemingly narrow shape of the keys.  That's only if a gun was put to my head and I had to come up with something to complain about, it's ultimately not that big of a deal.

[morpheus]

These videos convince me more than ever to get a 55g...as you can see, the 45g does seem a bit mushy compared to the 55g, which doesn't seem that fatiguing here.

55g

Variable/45g?

[dreamingftw]

55g hits the spot.

[fuzzybaffy]

These videos convince me more than ever to get a 55g...as you can see, the 45g does seem a bit mushy compared to the 55g, which doesn't seem that fatiguing here.

55g

Variable/45g?

Go for it!

[Michael]

My biggest interest, is that the space bar might be PBT, like the other newer leopold space bars. If they would just come out with a white version....

[jwaz]

My biggest interest, is that the space bar might be PBT, like the other newer leopold space bars. If they would just come out with a white version....

$175 spacebar

[Michael]

My biggest interest, is that the space bar might be PBT, like the other newer leopold space bars. If they would just come out with a white version....

$175 spacebar

Dang I put this in the wrong thread lol

[noons]

So I just got my realforce 87u 45g keyboard in the mail today. I love it! The HHKB that I owned briefly I loved as well, but the layout just wasn't for me. This keyboard honestly is perfect for me . I know a bunch of you are talking about 55g, but I cant imagine anything heavier these keys feel perfect.

[Dubsgalore]

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1365736667

this could be my first future topre board.

opinions from you topre users?

[noons]

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1365736667

this could be my first future topre board.

opinions from you topre users?

Meh, I think at that point I would rather just use an HHKB (layout wise). Any idea on what the price will be?

[Michael]

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1365736667

this could be my first future topre board.

opinions from you topre users?

Can't really comment on a product I haven't used, and nobody here has, yet


Also, for the price ($160USD), it's an amazing deal. Nice layout, too

[Dubsgalore]

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1365736667

this could be my first future topre board.

opinions from you topre users?

Meh, I think at that point I would rather just use an HHKB (layout wise). Any idea on what the price will be?

$160-$170 i believe. i am a fan of 60% boards, so this is similar i guess..more close to a 60% rather an a (hideous imo) 75% layout.

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1365736667

this could be my first future topre board.

opinions from you topre users?

Can't really comment on a product I haven't used, and nobody here has, yet


Also, for the price ($160USD), it's an amazing deal. Nice layout, too

if only i could change those two buttons to PGUP and PGDN...

[lazerpointer]

Awesome layout.
Awesome price.
Awesome switch technology.
Awesome coloring / caps.
Meh, 45g.

[Michael]

Meh, 45g.

My sentiments exactly. But still might pick one up.

[Dubsgalore]

Meh, 45g.

My sentiments exactly. But still might pick one up.

i am assuming 55g is popular?

[Michael]

Meh, 45g.

My sentiments exactly. But still might pick one up.

i am assuming 55g is popular?

I don't know that it's popular, but most people who like topre, usually stick with 55g once they try it.

[AKIMbO]

Holy crap....when did that new topre board come out?  Looks tasty.

I'm not a huge fan of the layout though.

Do you think it has a metal or plastic plate?

[Dubsgalore]

might hold off then.. i don't know if i would even like topres to begin with

just an option considering the price.

hopefully will get to try a topre board out at the NYC meetup!

[Macsmasher]

Well, I couldn't stand the curiosity any longer. I just ordered a 55g TKL. 

[tjcaustin]

Well, I couldn't stand the curiosity any longer. I just ordered a 55g TKL. 

Good call, it's my favorite topre and I don't regret the purchase.

[fuzzybaffy]

Nice. Congrats on your 55g purchase, Macsmasher!