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Title: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:04:40
(https://i.imgur.com/HQkvm4S.png)

Hey!

After putting this design on hold for a while I finally present you EPBT Extended 2048!

Heavily inspired by the AEKII, the main idea was to create an icon based keyset with a neo-retro look, inspired by old Apple keyboards. I wanted to have something with a minimalistic but intuitive look, which explains the icons mods!

I took time to re-think the kits, get rid of the useless stuff and basically made it simpler.
The original IC can be found here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96145.0)

Group Buy should start end march through KBDFans and CandyKeys (For EU only).
Pricing will come really soon!

I'm also actually working on a prototype.


Renders
by the handsome Oblotzky

Rama M60-A

(https://i.imgur.com/f8zhXL7.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/xnTjUvK.png)

Jane 2

(https://i.imgur.com/n6CiuBB.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/vvaX1o5.png)

Rama M65-A

(https://i.imgur.com/t4CScAG.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/UspEUcY.png)

TGR-910

(https://i.imgur.com/6yijquF.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/71oNBsQ.png)

Andromeda

(https://i.imgur.com/Swqgtdi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ShlNdLH.jpg)

Pearl

(https://i.imgur.com/4FBX57b.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Vt40Zmm.png)




Kits

Base kit ,
which covers from TKL to 60% layouts

(https://i.imgur.com/N8Els9N.png)

Torii kit
Katanaka sublegends

(https://i.imgur.com/VS8PJ61.png)

Calc kit
Le numpad.

(https://i.imgur.com/MWXvxCY.png)

Nomad kit
,
which covers everything below 60%

(https://i.imgur.com/9EXaRoj.png)

Icono kit
Novelties, basically.

(https://i.imgur.com/h0zuy53.png)

Intl kit,
aka NorDeUk kit.

(https://i.imgur.com/aIar2SR.png)

Dual kit,
for Ergo users (and weird layouts).

most of the 1.5u molds aren't available unfortunately

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Six Pack,
6u spacebars.
Thanks Oblotzky for the name…

(https://i.imgur.com/lBtNykb.png)

Nav kit,
VIM, HHKB and Poker arrows

(https://i.imgur.com/6CKGwdy.png)



GB will run from April 19th to May 19th!
on KBDFans and Candykeys

Pricing:
Base Kit - 78€ / $75
Calc Kit - 16€ / $15
Icono Kit - 19€ / $18
Intl Kit - 19€ / $18
Nomad Kit - 19€ / $18
Six Pack - 8€ / $5
Torii Kit - 14€ / $12.5
Nav Kit - 8€ / $5




Kits could still get some changes, so feel free to make suggestion(s)!
Here is a Poll tho: https://goo.gl/forms/753j1dQAZhFnm3632


Thanks!

You can support the project with this signature tho!
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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: fcoury on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:05:22
Oh my God, so good. I want it!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: quaddepos on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:06:17
Oblique knockoff, JK

Looking gooed Biip!




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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:06:38
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/828/088/9a6.php)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: gok_nz on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:07:23
Very nice as always.
Your icon kit looks wonderful.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: EnjoyMyInSec on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:07:40
Hella noice !
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:07:58
Hell yes. The set I have been waiting for.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:14:06
Love it but would prefer text modifiers over icon.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Macmutant on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:14:45
Looks nice. I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: nephlock on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:16:49
Looks great! very interested in this.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: raphaelf on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:23:33
Love it. Very interested.
Question though: would you consider R4 Enter for Planck users?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: voight-kampff on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:24:05
cool
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:24:22
Finally. What can I say?

All in.

I am gonna get a few sets.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:29:22
I love the fact that there is at least one 1u novelty for each row. Adds so much compatibility for us 65% users!
Thank you biip!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: romevi on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:30:54
Count me in, spanky.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ContaxS2 on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:31:11
Looking lovely, forsure interested!!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:31:19
Poll added: https://goo.gl/forms/753j1dQAZhFnm3632

Damn you guys are such reactive! Thanks for the early feedback :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:32:20
Woop Woop!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:33:45
Poll added: https://goo.gl/forms/753j1dQAZhFnm3632

Damn you guys are such reactive! Thanks for the early feedback :thumb:

I am predicting this will be one of the top-sell set in 2019...
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: piit79 on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:35:24
Perhaps I'm blind, what profile would this be?

Sent from my OnePlus 6T with a rubbish gimmicky bloody annoying unreliable in-display fingerprint reader using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:36:49
Perhaps I'm blind, what profile would this be?

Sent from my OnePlus 6T with a rubbish gimmicky bloody annoying unreliable in-display fingerprint reader using Tapatalk

EPBT is Cherry, like GMK.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:38:03
Perhaps I'm blind, what profile would this be?

Sent from my OnePlus 6T with a rubbish gimmicky bloody annoying unreliable in-display fingerprint reader using Tapatalk

Basically this is the PBT version of cherry profile, and epbt is arguably the best in PBT cherry profile quality.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: OtherAndrew on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:38:43
slurp me
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: The_judge_168 on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:39:51
Looks great! Definitely in for a set
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: scoopbb on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:40:16
my poor wallet. fuuuu, looks great
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:40:51
my poor wallet. fuuuu, looks great

As long as epbt doesn't keep increasing it's pricing we are fine
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: aroostercat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:54:16
Cherry profile goodness! Can't wait
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: bard on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:01:49
an ergo kit maybe? (just blanks)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: RETURNISO on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:02:48
Intl kit!!!  :-* looking forward to see some samples  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:03:58
Intl kit!!!  :-* looking forward to see some samples  :thumb:

While I think the epbt9009 was not the best, I think the quality has been improving. The heavy industry was quite impressive.
I hope they keep increasing quality without increasing the price. haha
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: pcire on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:06:43
Crap! It’s coming up real soon!
I should open a bank account for you! You keep taking my money! :)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: _ODIN_ on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:16:16
Take my money.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:24:10
Crap! It’s coming up real soon!
I should open a bank account for you! You keep taking my money! :)

Haha, you joined Bento too I assume!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: pcire on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:27:08
Crap! It’s coming up real soon!
I should open a bank account for you! You keep taking my money! :)

Haha, you joined Bento too I assume!

Bento... and Milkshake
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 15:27:51
Crap! It’s coming up real soon!
I should open a bank account for you! You keep taking my money! :)

Haha, you joined Bento too I assume!

Bento... and Milkshake


 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: method_ on Mon, 04 March 2019, 16:16:06
Whoa! This set looks amazing.

Pardon me for my ignorance, but is there any perks to doing a set with ePBT rather than GMK? I am wondering because lately I have bought a full set of topre 9009 from ePBT, and even tho they looked amazing and were thick, the plastic mixture used for the caps produced a really high pitch sound and felt cheap compared to the sound of standard Topre caps, Leopold Caps or OG cherrys, GMK, etc..

I was let down and I'm surprised to see many people doing runs for high end caps through them. Does that mean that only this topre 9009 was a bit of a let down and their GB productions are great?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 04 March 2019, 16:25:54
Long time coming. Good job.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 16:28:15
Whoa! This set looks amazing.

Pardon me for my ignorance, but is there any perks to doing a set with ePBT rather than GMK? I am wondering because lately I have bought a full set of topre 9009 from ePBT, and even tho they looked amazing and were thick, the plastic mixture used for the caps produced a really high pitch sound and felt cheap compared to the sound of standard Topre caps, Leopold Caps or OG cherrys, GMK, etc..

I was let down and I'm surprised to see many people doing runs for high end caps through them. Does that mean that only this topre 9009 was a bit of a let down and their GB productions are great?

Thanks!

I think the upsides are that:
1. its cheaper than GMK
2. some prefer PBT
3. custom fonts

I have a few epbt cap sets myself. And I have the same feeling as you do, but I hope epbt will increase quality without increase pricing.

Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 04 March 2019, 17:18:14
3rd time's the charm i guess
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: gabbbe on Mon, 04 March 2019, 17:36:09
I’m in!


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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: eyedrop on Mon, 04 March 2019, 17:40:59
Lovely set.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TheAutoManCan on Mon, 04 March 2019, 17:51:45
Can't say no to full icons
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: The_Boom_Boy on Mon, 04 March 2019, 18:01:06
Nice!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: dimo on Mon, 04 March 2019, 18:41:46
Damn, in forsure if samples turn out good (:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 18:45:24
Can't say no to full icons

This!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ShadeDream on Mon, 04 March 2019, 18:59:16
Apple style legends and ePBT is an easy in for me.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 04 March 2019, 19:11:46
Some of the symbols are a little weird in my eyes.
• Backspace (Backward "delete") has the Back-Tab symbol.
• Shift has a Cursor-Up symbol in my opinion.
• Forward Delete has what I think of ASCII art for fish <><

What would be so wrong about the "Place of interest" symbol?

And BTW, what are the shell prompt keys for?

2. some prefer PBT
AEK, AEKII, M0116 and M0118 were PBT, except for the space bars.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: caxplrr on Mon, 04 March 2019, 20:51:18
Beautiful set! I'm a sucker for Apple/Mac inspired sets as a Mac user myself, so these ones are hard to resist. Glad you went with ePBT and barred F/J! Wallet is ready  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: The_Royal on Mon, 04 March 2019, 21:32:18
Man, this look so nice and clean.  Your Iconography is always so fresh! Im definitely in for a base & nomad kit.  Cant wait!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: sandragm on Mon, 04 March 2019, 21:53:22
Okay, okay... I'll sign up 🙄
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: macclack on Mon, 04 March 2019, 22:11:16
Bravo! Love it.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: MMKB on Mon, 04 March 2019, 22:12:24
(https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.3140961.1499060631!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg)

Thanks biip. In for the icon kit.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: flying1911 on Mon, 04 March 2019, 22:12:49
The rise of EPBT: Kuro/Shiro and then this  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Theswetiyeti on Mon, 04 March 2019, 22:13:35
Looks great Vary interested
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 04 March 2019, 22:28:59
I love this, and I am planning to get this. Love the icon kits.

Sad that the idea for a more exotic profile (mt3, KAT) is out, but happy that this is not a uniform profile or GMK($$$$, and i'm broke) glad you went epbt.
I just wish the "neo retro" color was a bit more neo than retro :)
I get the aesthetic and the theme, but I think a cooler tone (like the royal navy cream - very light cream) would yield to much better board compatibility and mix-n-match potential.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Tue, 05 March 2019, 00:17:44
Goddamnit biip there goes my wallet again. Never used anything Apple, buying this anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 March 2019, 00:20:40
Waiting for pricing (hmm like that matters :))
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: xkhol on Tue, 05 March 2019, 00:29:11
Intl kit!!!  :-* looking forward to see some samples  :thumb:

While I think the epbt9009 was not the best, I think the quality has been improving. The heavy industry was quite impressive.
I hope they keep increasing quality without increasing the price. haha

I don’t own any epbt sets, so I’m not familiar with their pricing. How much does a set like this usually go for?


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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: wellbeing44 on Tue, 05 March 2019, 01:21:37
Intl kit!!!  :-* looking forward to see some samples  :thumb:

While I think the epbt9009 was not the best, I think the quality has been improving. The heavy industry was quite impressive.
I hope they keep increasing quality without increasing the price. haha

I don’t own any epbt sets, so I’m not familiar with their pricing. How much does a set like this usually go for?


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I would guess slightly cheaper than grayscale because of less colors.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: mwahlig on Tue, 05 March 2019, 01:43:51
Love it. Very interested.
Question though: would you consider R4 Enter for Planck users?
Definitely interested if this gets added


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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Tue, 05 March 2019, 03:58:07
Thank you all for the awesome support :thumb:

I already plan to:

Also, I'm not sure I want to add accents since I think it works kinda well as a monochromatic set.
I got rid of the Rainbow novelty since IMO it's too 'expected' and not that original.



Some of the symbols are a little weird in my eyes.
• Backspace (Backward "delete") has the Back-Tab symbol.
• Shift has a Cursor-Up symbol in my opinion.
• Forward Delete has what I think of ASCII art for fish <><

What would be so wrong about the "Place of interest" symbol?

And BTW, what are the shell prompt keys for?


Hope it helps. If you guys have any thoughts about that, let me know :)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: flying1911 on Tue, 05 March 2019, 06:18:48
How about offering accents in a separate kit?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: bobdenard on Tue, 05 March 2019, 07:48:18
Great set! At last some Apple icons. In all the way
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: tacahiroy on Tue, 05 March 2019, 08:56:43
Finally coming!!! One thing I'm feeling so sorry is that alpha only kits which were originally planned is gone now. As I'm a big fan of Ortho I'm definitely wanting to have an alpha kit, I think I'm in for this even if there's no alpha kits though.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: tacahiroy on Tue, 05 March 2019, 09:00:38


Thank you all for the awesome support :thumb:

I already plan to:
  • add R3 1.25 Enter -> Nomad kit
  • add R4 1u Enter -> Nomad kit
  • make a spacebars kit, for people who don't need all the modifiers but just a split spacebar.
  • work on an Ergo kit if there is enough interest. If I do so, I want it to have icons mods tho.


I'm definitely in for an Ergo kit!!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: HAYAN on Tue, 05 March 2019, 09:21:57
wanna get this ASAP...
love pbt dyu-sub
keyset looks really coooool
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: vicissitude on Tue, 05 March 2019, 09:30:00
Cooooool!!!   :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 05 March 2019, 09:36:43
Wish you could get some of the old Mac icons into the novelties set, e.g. “hello”, Susan Kare’s dog icon, etc.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: jani80k on Tue, 05 March 2019, 10:06:44
Interested.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 March 2019, 12:42:28
wanna get this ASAP...
love pbt dyu-sub
keyset looks really coooool

Nice thing is that quality of epbt has gone up with recent sets, let's hope price does not :)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: nguyenhimself on Tue, 05 March 2019, 12:45:22
Wish you could get some of the old Mac icons into the novelties set, e.g. “hello”, Susan Kare’s dog icon, etc.
I reckon they’d reach the same realization as that of XDA Oblique: Too risky legal-wise.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: megastyle on Tue, 05 March 2019, 13:39:21
Also, I'm not sure I want to add accents since I think it works kinda well as a monochromatic set.
I got rid of the Rainbow novelty since IMO it's too 'expected' and not that original.

Inverted accents (ala GMK monochrome) could look pretty sharp...
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Tue, 05 March 2019, 13:40:38
Looks great, I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: pcire on Tue, 05 March 2019, 13:41:37
Also, I'm not sure I want to add accents since I think it works kinda well as a monochromatic set.
I got rid of the Rainbow novelty since IMO it's too 'expected' and not that original.

Inverted accents (ala GMK monochrome) could look pretty sharp...

I’m usually an accent guy, but I thought this set didn’t need them to keep it clean... now this idea sounds interesting!
Probably worth exploring?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 05 March 2019, 13:46:56
Also, I'm not sure I want to add accents since I think it works kinda well as a monochromatic set.
I got rid of the Rainbow novelty since IMO it's too 'expected' and not that original.

Inverted accents (ala GMK monochrome) could look pretty sharp...

I’m usually an accent guy, but I thought this set didn’t need them to keep it clean... now this idea sounds interesting!
Probably worth exploring?

It would lose its appeal as a homeage to the AEK.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 March 2019, 13:49:17
Also, I'm not sure I want to add accents since I think it works kinda well as a monochromatic set.
I got rid of the Rainbow novelty since IMO it's too 'expected' and not that original.

Inverted accents (ala GMK monochrome) could look pretty sharp...

I’m usually an accent guy, but I thought this set didn’t need them to keep it clean... now this idea sounds interesting!
Probably worth exploring?

It would lose its appeal as a homeage to the AEK.

How about extra accent kit? Haha
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: catamscott on Tue, 05 March 2019, 15:20:03
nice, glad to see this go to epbt! looks really good though, will be a definite purchase for me   ;D
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Dolas on Tue, 05 March 2019, 17:40:28
What this set really needs is some d and k homing keys. :D
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 05 March 2019, 19:05:50
Super nice.  Excited!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: nhathoangJS on Wed, 06 March 2019, 07:02:03
Love to see a UK-ISO & Planck kit ;)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: koenoe on Wed, 06 March 2019, 07:20:55
This looks insane, definitely in and can't wait.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 06 March 2019, 07:42:50
Looks great biip. Can’t wait!!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Wed, 06 March 2019, 07:59:36
Updates:


(https://i.imgur.com/wznZnJG.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/drSAwpn.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/xx2Snon.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: mushubanane on Wed, 06 March 2019, 08:35:00
Nice changes, I prefer the ⌘ icon to the circle
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Aznakh on Wed, 06 March 2019, 08:47:31
This looks great! I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: wellbeing44 on Wed, 06 March 2019, 10:16:37
Oh my, that coffee mug...
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: OtherAndrew on Wed, 06 March 2019, 10:39:54
my genius bar is stiff
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 06 March 2019, 14:50:04
Any chance of adding the "stacked squares" icon to a1.75u key ?

I think of this icon as Fn or "Layers", and I map Fn to CapsLock. Not sure if that's a common layout (I think it is, but no data to back it up), and might be attractive to folks who care for it.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: RominRonin on Wed, 06 March 2019, 15:55:03
Well your nomad kit has 2x 1.25u keys in row 3 profile. As the designer of the katana60 I don't have a choice, I MUST buy it...

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Loligagger on Wed, 06 March 2019, 16:08:49
Thank you all for the awesome support :thumb:

I already plan to:

    add R3 1.25 Enter -> Nomad kit
    add R4 1u Enter -> Nomad kit
    make a spacebars kit, for people who don't need all the modifiers but just a split spacebar.
    work on an Ergo kit if there is enough interest. If I do so, I want it to have icons mods tho.

I'd be interested in an ergo kit. If not blank then just icons, since you can't really cover every layout.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 06 March 2019, 16:45:51
Looks great biip. Can’t wait!!

Mike you from LSU? haha
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Wed, 06 March 2019, 19:11:15
Any chance of adding the "stacked squares" icon to a1.75u key ?

I think of this icon as Fn or "Layers", and I map Fn to CapsLock. Not sure if that's a common layout (I think it is, but no data to back it up), and might be attractive to folks who care for it.

>_ is for FN.
Squares are for Layers or whatever you want.

I could definitively add one 1.75u FN (and a stepped FN then I guess?!) key in the base kit. But keep in mind that each specific demand might increase the price of the kit. I should get pricing soon tho.

Also, I plan to add a R4 1u squares in the Icono kit.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 07 March 2019, 01:11:16
>_ is for FN.
Squares are for Layers or whatever you want.

I could definitively add one 1.75u FN (and a stepped FN then I guess?!) key in the base kit. But keep in mind that each specific demand might increase the price of the kit. I should get pricing soon tho.

Also, I plan to add a R4 1u squares in the Icono kit.

Definitely not a deal breaker - I'm in the buy either way. I felt like "layers" are more representative of layer switching than >_ which feels more like a "Command" . Just my opinion FWIW.

 See the pricing and if it does not make a big change, perhaps consider it ?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Thu, 07 March 2019, 02:17:16
>_ is for FN.
Squares are for Layers or whatever you want.

I could definitively add one 1.75u FN (and a stepped FN then I guess?!) key in the base kit. But keep in mind that each specific demand might increase the price of the kit. I should get pricing soon tho.

Also, I plan to add a R4 1u squares in the Icono kit.

Definitely not a deal breaker - I'm in the buy either way. I felt like "layers" are more representative of layer switching than >_ which feels more like a "Command" . Just my opinion FWIW.

 See the pricing and if it does not make a big change, perhaps consider it ?

Yeah I will definitively consider it!

But yeah, for me the prompt command was intuitive for the Fn key since it can kinda acts how you want. I mean, Fn is not only for layers.
The squares one is just another icon inspired by the first Mac icons (1984), but indeed works well for a layers key.

Now I'm wondering if I should replace the >_ with the squares in the base kit since the icon looks way better 🤔
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: meidodoragon on Thu, 07 March 2019, 02:18:51
I had used that >_ icon in my laser blocknet kit for Fn because it evoked the word function to me without even realizing that was the actual intent. Wow...

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Thu, 07 March 2019, 06:00:34
R3 1.75u Fn keycap added:

(https://i.imgur.com/dIeh4js.png)

R4 1u Layers keycap added:

(https://i.imgur.com/nT1zncx.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 07 March 2019, 12:33:08
Mac lover daily check in
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: bobdenard on Thu, 07 March 2019, 13:42:54
Mac lover daily check in

Same here. Not enough Mac kits around.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: wellbeing44 on Thu, 07 March 2019, 23:05:31
Not a Mac user... but I like the aesthetics  :))
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: OtherAndrew on Thu, 07 March 2019, 23:41:36
are you the steeve jobs
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Beatnutz on Fri, 08 March 2019, 11:01:58
No accents. Stick with the concept.

Clean and nice. Love it so far, let's go GB so I can get this thing soon.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: HAYAN on Fri, 08 March 2019, 11:06:18
wanna get this ASAP...
love pbt dyu-sub
keyset looks really coooool

Nice thing is that quality of epbt has gone up with recent sets, let's hope price does not :)

Agree  :))
Recently they're making really good quality stuff!
I just want epbt to be careful about the spacebar being bent.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: krey on Fri, 08 March 2019, 11:32:02
I love the look.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 08 March 2019, 12:33:20
just start GB and take my money :))
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Fri, 08 March 2019, 14:16:20
just start GB and take my money :))

Man I see you everywhere, how much money do you have? :P
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Abec13 on Fri, 08 March 2019, 23:47:11
Forgot to put it in the interest check, how would feel about adding a R4 * and / to the nomad kit to have a full 4x4 numpad for people who own things like roadkits?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: leece3 on Sun, 10 March 2019, 04:35:45
Whoa! This set looks amazing.

Pardon me for my ignorance, but is there any perks to doing a set with ePBT rather than GMK? I am wondering because lately I have bought a full set of topre 9009 from ePBT, and even tho they looked amazing and were thick, the plastic mixture used for the caps produced a really high pitch sound and felt cheap compared to the sound of standard Topre caps, Leopold Caps or OG cherrys, GMK, etc..

I was let down and I'm surprised to see many people doing runs for high end caps through them. Does that mean that only this topre 9009 was a bit of a let down and their GB productions are great?

Thanks!

Indeed. Many consider PBT material higher quality than ABS (what GMK and JTK use), because it is harder, more explicit texture for the finger tips, takes much much longer for the caps to become shiny and losing the texture, and doesn't yellow over [let's say twenty years].. BUT: sound is indeed sub par or higher pitched or just sounds cheap!!! My opinion, but I am considering to move mostly back to ABS.. (typing on Heavy Industry at the moment which I don't know if it his from ePBT but is PBT material and is super beautiful [the white alphas look perfect to me {together with GMK WS1 my favorite whites}] and good feel but not so great sound - I am waiting for their GMK run now:)..

So I don't think your intuition failed you.. unfortunately.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: leece3 on Sun, 10 March 2019, 04:49:30
I know, in theory white is not a color, but in practice it very much is. And I have eyes, but the most important question to me: what is the white color used?!!! Could not find any specifics outside the images..

I like monochrome sets especially in white, but I just received Heavy Industries and Slate is still in the mail, both PBT.. so maybe GMK Minimal for me first..
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: wellbeing44 on Sun, 10 March 2019, 04:51:28
How's the timeline looking so far?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: CandyKeys on Sun, 10 March 2019, 09:58:03
How's the timeline looking so far?

We believe the white color has to be decided on, EPBT said mid-April would be great and after GB closure there is a 45 day lead time. The issue is that kuro-shiro is on very soon, so it would make sense for it to be after :)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: vicissitude on Sun, 10 March 2019, 10:48:18
Wow. Love the update.
Icons are always welcome.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 10 March 2019, 12:15:52
How's the timeline looking so far?

hopefully soon...
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: captaincalamari on Sun, 10 March 2019, 22:00:33
Not sure of the feasibility of this, but one of those Rama caps with enamel filling he's been doing recently would look really nice with this set. I'm imagining a rainbow enamel fill or maybe a "hello" cap.

Great set btw! Count me in for one.
Title: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: 8six753o9 on Sun, 10 March 2019, 23:56:01
Not sure of the feasibility of this, but one of those Rama caps with enamel filling he's been doing recently would look really nice with this set. I'm imagining a rainbow enamel fill or maybe a "hello" cap.

Great set btw! Count me in for one.

Hurry before it’s over!

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gen-s-monitor-screen-resin-artisan-keycap?mode=guest_open
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: captaincalamari on Mon, 11 March 2019, 04:07:17
Not sure of the feasibility of this, but one of those Rama caps with enamel filling he's been doing recently would look really nice with this set. I'm imagining a rainbow enamel fill or maybe a "hello" cap.

Great set btw! Count me in for one.

Hurry before it’s over!

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gen-s-monitor-screen-resin-artisan-keycap?mode=guest_open
Neat, thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Tue, 12 March 2019, 04:12:14
Jane 2 with novelties row

(https://i.imgur.com/vvaX1o5.png)

and TGR-910

(https://i.imgur.com/71oNBsQ.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/6yijquF.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Tue, 12 March 2019, 10:26:28
Jane 2 with novelties row

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/vvaX1o5.png)


and TGR-910

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/71oNBsQ.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/6yijquF.png)


Looking good, do you think you could do a render with some EC-white case, so we could see how well that works?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 12 March 2019, 10:35:01
Jane 2 with novelties row

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/vvaX1o5.png)


and TGR-910

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/71oNBsQ.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/6yijquF.png)


Looking good, do you think you could do a render with some EC-white case, so we could see how well that works?

I have a few ec -white cases, and I can imagine it working really well!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: wellbeing44 on Tue, 12 March 2019, 11:32:43
Will this also have the scooped homing keys that will hit the switch housings?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: RykoZin on Tue, 12 March 2019, 16:38:01
I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Sintpinty on Tue, 12 March 2019, 17:10:59
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HQkvm4S.png)


Hey!

After putting this design on hold for a while I finally present you EPBT Extended 2048!

Heavily inspired by the AEKII, the main idea was to create an icon based keyset with a neo-retro look, inspired by old Apple keyboards. I wanted to have something with a minimalistic but intuitive look, which explains the icons mods!

I took time to re-think the kits, get rid of the useless stuff and basically made it simpler.
This looks really good for a professional looking keyboard. I love the macro keys.
The original IC can be found here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96145.0)

Group Buy should start end march through KBDFans and CandyKeys (For EU only).
Pricing will come really soon!

I'm also actually working on a prototype.


Renders
by the handsome Oblotzky

Rama M60-A

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/f8zhXL7.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xnTjUvK.png)


Jane 2

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/n6CiuBB.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/vvaX1o5.png)


Rama M65-A

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/t4CScAG.png)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UspEUcY.png)


TGR-910
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/6yijquF.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/71oNBsQ.png)





Kits

Base kit ,
which covers from TKL to 60% layouts

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/dIeh4js.png)


Calc kit
Le numpad.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MWXvxCY.png)


Nomad kit
,
which covers everything below 60%

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/drSAwpn.png)


Icono kit
Novelties, basically.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/nT1zncx.png)


Intl kit,
aka NorDeUk kit.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/PWgwxMv.png)





Kits could still get some changes, so feel free to make suggestion(s)!
Here is a Poll tho: https://goo.gl/forms/753j1dQAZhFnm3632

Thanks!

You can support the project with this signature tho!
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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: davewongillies on Wed, 13 March 2019, 01:03:08
Love this. A Moof dogcow in the Icono kit would totally seal the deal for me

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/DogCow_from_LaserWriter_8.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Dragoonie on Wed, 13 March 2019, 02:59:03
Love this. A Moof dogcow in the Icono kit would totally seal the deal for me

Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/DogCow_from_LaserWriter_8.png)


Lol that’s perfect. Or a redesigned sad mac.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Sad_mac.png)


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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Wed, 13 March 2019, 03:57:53
Kits


Nomad kit
,
which covers everything below 60%

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/drSAwpn.png)


wait a minute... did Epbt already have molds for convex 2.25u and 2.75u keys?  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Wed, 13 March 2019, 04:25:51
Kits


Nomad kit
,
which covers everything below 60%

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/drSAwpn.png)


wait a minute... did Epbt already have molds for convex 2.25u and 2.75u keys?  :eek:

I just asked and no the don't. Should I still keep those as non-convex in the nomad kit?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Wed, 13 March 2019, 04:29:02
Kits


Nomad kit
,
which covers everything below 60%

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/drSAwpn.png)


wait a minute... did Epbt already have molds for convex 2.25u and 2.75u keys?  :eek:

I just asked and no the don't. Should I still keep those as non-convex in the nomad kit?

I have no complaints if they can make the convex caps :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Wed, 13 March 2019, 11:55:06
Will this also have the scooped homing keys that will hit the switch housings?
Yes, please make sure that homing keys only have bars, not scoops: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/b08vog/enjoypbt_homing_keys_impact_switch_housings/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/b08vog/enjoypbt_homing_keys_impact_switch_housings/)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Wed, 13 March 2019, 12:00:47
Will this also have the scooped homing keys that will hit the switch housings?

KBDFans just answered: Normal homing keys :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Wed, 13 March 2019, 14:30:49
Thoughts on this ergo kit?

(https://i.imgur.com/bnSMVDk.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: romevi on Wed, 13 March 2019, 15:38:40
Thoughts on this ergo kit?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bnSMVDk.png)


I see it, ergo it exists.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Loligagger on Wed, 13 March 2019, 16:48:35
Thoughts on this ergo kit?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bnSMVDk.png)


I'd make the '/" 1.5u key horizontal (R3) rather than vertical. Also the ergodox thumb cluster would need eight 1u keys total. R3 home/end & pgup/pgdn seem like fairly universal choices for 1u thumb cluster keys.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 13 March 2019, 17:16:44
Will this also have the scooped homing keys that will hit the switch housings?

KBDFans just answered: Normal homing keys :thumb:

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Wed, 13 March 2019, 17:31:04
Thoughts on this ergo kit?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bnSMVDk.png)


I'd make the '/" 1.5u key horizontal (R3) rather than vertical. Also the ergodox thumb cluster would need eight 1u keys total. R3 home/end & pgup/pgdn seem like fairly universal choices for 1u thumb cluster keys.

Keep in mind that some of these keys are in the base kit :)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Thu, 14 March 2019, 07:12:16
Compatibility update on the ergo kit:

(https://i.imgur.com/TnMiX1t.png)

2.25u and 2.75u (blanks) spacebars won't be convex :

(https://i.imgur.com/w6TEdj2.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: typischt on Thu, 14 March 2019, 07:46:22
are you the steeve jobs
No, he clearly is Tim Apple!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Locnguyen1507 on Thu, 14 March 2019, 12:16:45
Compatibility update on the ergo kit:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TnMiX1t.png)


2.25u and 2.75u (blanks) spacebars won't be convex :

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/w6TEdj2.png)


How about add on Spacebar 2.75u C and that will be great for any split keyboard. Especially with my TGR Alice with left space 2u C and right space 2.75u C as well.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Thu, 14 March 2019, 12:21:07
Compatibility update on the ergo kit:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TnMiX1t.png)


2.25u and 2.75u (blanks) spacebars won't be convex :

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/w6TEdj2.png)


How about add on Spacebar 2.75u C and that will be great for any split keyboard. Especially with my TGR Alice with left space 2u C and right space 2.75u C as well.

I believe enjoyPBT doesn't have molds for 2,25C and 2,75C
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: SirWalross on Thu, 14 March 2019, 14:34:15
Hey is the 6u spacebar off center or center stem? cheers :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: trabbit on Fri, 15 March 2019, 01:00:38
Can't wait to have this set...
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Fri, 15 March 2019, 03:11:56
Hey is the 6u spacebar off center or center stem? cheers :rolleyes:

both are available.
So I'll prolly get centered and off-centered…
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Fri, 15 March 2019, 14:12:57
6u spacebar removed from base kit and new kit added.
🍻

(https://i.imgur.com/N8Els9N.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/lBtNykb.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 15 March 2019, 14:25:24
6u spacebar removed from base kit and new kit added.


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/N8Els9N.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/lBtNykb.png)

Nice

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: iammoomoo on Fri, 15 March 2019, 14:34:17
Has there been any update on the price? Just curious  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: OkKarma on Sat, 16 March 2019, 06:04:38
omg ergo kit
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 16 March 2019, 10:08:42
Let's get this dropped asap before money gone for all other caps coming out :((
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: voxkey on Sat, 16 March 2019, 13:40:01
I'm definitely in for this. Looks great and ePBT is perfect!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Jonathan0903 on Sat, 16 March 2019, 13:58:34
I may be blind but has there been any info on the color swatches being used?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Sat, 16 March 2019, 14:10:20
I may be blind but has there been any info on the color swatches being used?

Still in the 'To Be Confirmed' phase.
But the samples will be made with GMK L9 and GMK BV colors :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TheCount on Sat, 16 March 2019, 14:34:45
Love this. A Moof dogcow in the Icono kit would totally seal the deal for me

Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/DogCow_from_LaserWriter_8.png)


Lol that’s perfect. Or a redesigned sad mac.

Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Sad_mac.png)



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Oh man, sad mac would be a perfect escape key option. Love it.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Loligagger on Sat, 16 March 2019, 15:01:58
Compatibility update on the ergo kit:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TnMiX1t.png)


2.25u and 2.75u (blanks) spacebars won't be convex :

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/w6TEdj2.png)


It's better, I'll still say the ergo kit should have the "/' key as horizontal & R3 home/end keys though.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Sat, 16 March 2019, 15:22:06
Compatibility update on the ergo kit:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TnMiX1t.png)


2.25u and 2.75u (blanks) spacebars won't be convex :

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/w6TEdj2.png)


It's better, I'll still say the ergo kit should have the "/' key as horizontal & R3 home/end keys though.

these keys are in the base kit :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Loligagger on Sat, 16 March 2019, 16:49:23
these keys are in the base kit :thumb:

A horizontal 1.5u "/' key & R3 home/end keys aren't (R3 pgup/pgdn are though). Unless I'm just blind or something but I don't see them.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:19:06
these keys are in the base kit :thumb:

A horizontal 1.5u "/' key & R3 home/end keys aren't (R3 pgup/pgdn are though). Unless I'm just blind or something but I don't see them.

My bad I thought you were talking about a 1.5u pipe key.
Will look at that asap :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:38:51

The international kit is missing two keys:


3#£
+?\


Please add them, they are needed for the swedish layout that is fully covered but those two keys.


Edit: A vim HJKL arrow kit would rock. An escape accent kit in orange as well.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: captaincalamari on Sat, 16 March 2019, 22:17:38

The international kit is missing two keys:


3#£
+?\


Please add them, they are needed for the swedish layout that is fully covered but those two keys.


Edit: A vim HJKL arrow kit would rock. An escape accent kit in orange as well.
I would love to see a vim kit as well
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 17 March 2019, 18:25:22

Edit: A vim HJKL arrow kit would rock. An escape accent kit in orange as well.

+1  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: rockydbull on Sun, 17 March 2019, 20:22:04
Another for a vim kit and please keep blank 2.25u and 2.75u keys in a kit to use as spacebars even if they are not shaped like traditional spacebars
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Sun, 17 March 2019, 21:05:03
Another for a vim kit and please keep blank 2.25u and 2.75u keys in a kit to use as spacebars even if they are not shaped like traditional spacebars


Those caps are in the nomad kit. I need them as well.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: gok_nz on Sun, 17 March 2019, 23:16:07
Regarding the Six Pack, I thought that epbt have both centre and off centre stems together on the same keycap.
Do you know if they separate molds for off-centre and centre as well?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:18:41

The international kit is missing two keys:


3#£
+?\


Please add them, they are needed for the swedish layout that is fully covered but those two keys.


Edit: A vim HJKL arrow kit would rock. An escape accent kit in orange as well.

These two keys are in the Intl kit but without the sublegend so it can covers other languages.
I'm not sure that third legend is that much needed. Let me know it that's necessary…

And sorry, VIM kit is not planed.


Regarding the Six Pack, I thought that epbt have both centre and off centre stems together on the same keycap.
Do you know if they separate molds for off-centre and centre as well?

EPBT can provide two different 6u's and two different homing keys (barred and scooped) :thumb:


Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: wellbeing44 on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:29:39
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:31:14
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:

I will prolly got just for the barred ones tho.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: wellbeing44 on Mon, 18 March 2019, 03:33:57
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:

I will prolly got just for the barred ones tho.
I think most people would want that
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 18 March 2019, 08:11:25
No homing best homing
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 18 March 2019, 22:34:20
barred
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 18 March 2019, 22:36:14
bars or i feed
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Mon, 18 March 2019, 23:29:03
Please add the +?\ key. The 3#£ would be nice but a 3# key with no pound sign is still acceptable.


Edit: The +?\ key is found in the Swedish/Finish layout only and I did not find it with no backslash in any other European layout.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Tue, 19 March 2019, 03:01:31
Please add the +?\ key. The 3#£ would be nice but a 3# key with no pound sign is still acceptable.


Edit: The +?\ key is found in the Swedish/Finish layout only and I did not find it with no backslash in any other European layout.

Am I missing something or are these 2 keys already present in the Intl kit?
I mean, without the third legend.

The thing is, are the third legend that important? Or would you guys rather have a lower cost?

I might also throw away the <> 'duplicates' if it doesn't bother people :thumb:

(https://i.imgur.com/XgeMxtB.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Tue, 19 March 2019, 06:06:31
In addition to the keyset, there will be a switch Group Buy!

Blank switch

Tactile, 62g (bottom-out).
Same base as the T1 one from KBDFans (similar to Holy Panda)
Colours are the same as the ones used for Extended 2048.[/i]
MOQ of 25k

(https://i.imgur.com/iywAHzv.png)

more info coming soon™.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: romevi on Tue, 19 March 2019, 10:19:58
Jeez. Seems like custom switches are now becoming standard!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 19 March 2019, 10:22:18
Jeez. Seems like custom switches are now becoming standard!

I like it.

And you.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: HAYAN on Tue, 19 March 2019, 10:33:19
AWESOME
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Tue, 19 March 2019, 10:49:04
Please add the +?\ key. The 3#£ would be nice but a 3# key with no pound sign is still acceptable.


Edit: The +?\ key is found in the Swedish/Finish layout only and I did not find it with no backslash in any other European layout.

Am I missing something or are these 2 keys already present in the Intl kit?
I mean, without the third legend.

The thing is, are the third legend that important? Or would you guys rather have a lower cost?

I might also throw away the <> 'duplicates' if it doesn't bother people :thumb:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/XgeMxtB.png)



Personally, I need the tertiary legend in symbol only keys like <>| and +?\ While I touch type letters and numbers I still need some hint for less frequent symbols that take AltGr. Fortunately most Norde kits come with them. I hope this also comes with them. I will keep an eye on this and decide if it works for me in its final form.



Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: romevi on Tue, 19 March 2019, 11:59:02
Jeez. Seems like custom switches are now becoming standard!

I like it.

And you.


(https://i.imgur.com/lNUJIuN.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:02:45
how do you guys deal with your warped space bars and 2u+ keys?  I have two ePBT sets that I can't even use on cherry stabilizers b/c they are curved so bad they make the stabilizers bind.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Marutks on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:08:24
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: _ODIN_ on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:09:04
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.
He was talking about epbt

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:10:41
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.

ePBT larger keys are almost always very banana shaped/ warped, yes.  I have 2 MT3 sets as well and no warping at all.  It has to do with thickness of caps, design of supports inside the cap, manufacturing technique (proper cooling technique), and QC weeding out ones that are bad.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:11:10
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.
He was talking about epbt

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:12:04
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.
He was talking about epbt

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oui
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:18:48
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.
He was talking about epbt

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Epbt = enjoy pbt?

oui


This, questions about warping issues are relevant.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 19 March 2019, 21:39:57
In addition to the keyset, there will be a switch Group Buy!

Latte switch

Tactile, 62g (bottom-out).
Same base as the T1 one from KBDFans (similar to Holy Panda)
Colours are the same as the ones used for Extended 2048.[/i]
MOQ of 25k

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iywAHzv.png)


more info coming soon™.

Noice! Finnally a beautiful mono switch, looking forward to more info :)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: macclack on Tue, 19 March 2019, 22:24:10
are they all warped?    I have two sets of MT3/tty.   None of those keys are warped.
He was talking about epbt

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Epbt = enjoy pbt?

oui


This, questions about warping issues are relevant.

Agreed. The last 3 sets of enjoyPBT sets I've purchased all have warped spacebars. Not unusable, but not ideal. KBD fans posted something on their website about possibly working on a new mold to fix the issue. Look on the bottom of the page here in red:
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/cherry-profile/products/gbenjoypbt-grayscale-keycaps-set
Might be worthwhile to try to get details.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 19 March 2019, 22:25:24
In addition to the keyset, there will be a switch Group Buy!

Latte switch

Tactile, 62g (bottom-out).
Same base as the T1 one from KBDFans (similar to Holy Panda)
Colours are the same as the ones used for Extended 2048.[/i]
MOQ of 25k

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iywAHzv.png)


more info coming soon™.

Oh lord, nice nice nice!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Marutks on Wed, 20 March 2019, 14:11:44
Look on the bottom of the page here in red:


LOL  "You can heat it with hot water, then place it on the table, press it with a book, and when it cools, it will straighten"    :D
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Wed, 20 March 2019, 15:17:50
In addition to the keyset, there will be a switch Group Buy!

Blank switch

Tactile, 62g (bottom-out).
Same base as the T1 one from KBDFans (similar to Holy Panda)
Colours are the same as the ones used for Extended 2048.[/i]
MOQ of 25k

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iywAHzv.png)


more info coming soon™.
Looks cool, but Sonic switches IC that were supposed to also be recolored T1 just announced that colored nylon housing is a no-go. Are you sure these can actually get made?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 25 March 2019, 02:57:49
In addition to the keyset, there will be a switch Group Buy!

Blank switch

Tactile, 62g (bottom-out).
Same base as the T1 one from KBDFans (similar to Holy Panda)
Colours are the same as the ones used for Extended 2048.[/i]
MOQ of 25k

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iywAHzv.png)


more info coming soon™.
Looks cool, but Sonic switches IC that were supposed to also be recolored T1 just announced that colored nylon housing is a no-go. Are you sure these can actually get made?

Well, if the housing can't be in nylon, I think I'll just pass and not offer these switches since there is no real interest of having a transparent housing…
I should get confirmation soon anyways!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Aznakh on Mon, 25 March 2019, 05:38:07
More
Please add the +?\ key. The 3#£ would be nice but a 3# key with no pound sign is still acceptable.


Edit: The +?\ key is found in the Swedish/Finish layout only and I did not find it with no backslash in any other European layout.

Am I missing something or are these 2 keys already present in the Intl kit?
I mean, without the third legend.

The thing is, are the third legend that important? Or would you guys rather have a lower cost?

I might also throw away the <> 'duplicates' if it doesn't bother people :thumb:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/XgeMxtB.png)


Is it not the exact same 3#-button in both the base and the international kit? Personally I think adding the £-legend makes more sense than including what is essentially a duplicate key.
Or am I missing something?

As for the <> 'duplicates', the Norwegian layout only has <> bound to that key, and either way I don't care too much.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: jagger27 on Mon, 25 March 2019, 05:57:08
Can't wait for this!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 25 March 2019, 08:29:14
I have sad news: I'll have to throw the Ergo kit away, because most of the 1.5u molds aren't available, unfortunately…
Sorry.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: kakiharaOne on Mon, 25 March 2019, 08:42:57
I have sad news: I'll have to throw the Ergo kit away, because most of the 1.5u molds aren't available, unfortunately…
Sorry.

Nooooooo! I was so excited that I would be able to kit out the vintage m0110 I’m working on. Sad news indeed :(

Def still in though :)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:20:22
Intl kit updated

(https://i.imgur.com/aIar2SR.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: dallman5 on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:35:16
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:

I will prolly got just for the barred ones tho.

Looking at the render I can’t quite tell, but are there just bars and no homing options for F and J?

I’d personally prefer scoops, if that’s an option that you are willing to consider still (that is if I’m correct in my assumption that there are none as it stands).
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:38:10
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:

I will prolly got just for the barred ones tho.

Looking at the render I can’t quite tell, but are there just bars and no homing options for F and J?

I’d personally prefer scoops, if that’s an option that you are willing to consider still (that is if I’m correct in my assumption that there are none as it stands).

EPBT barred homings aren't scooped.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:41:59
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:

I will prolly got just for the barred ones tho.

Looking at the render I can’t quite tell, but are there just bars and no homing options for F and J?

I’d personally prefer scoops, if that’s an option that you are willing to consider still (that is if I’m correct in my assumption that there are none as it stands).

EPBT barred homings aren't scooped.


The homing keys of the ePBT caps that I have feature both bar and scoop on the same cap.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:43:05
Intl kit updated

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/aIar2SR.png)



Awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: dallman5 on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:44:52
Good to hear about the homing keys :thumb:

I will prolly got just for the barred ones tho.

Looking at the render I can’t quite tell, but are there just bars and no homing options for F and J?

I’d personally prefer scoops, if that’s an option that you are willing to consider still (that is if I’m correct in my assumption that there are none as it stands).

EPBT barred homings aren't scooped.

I understand that, yes. Maybe I worded that poorly, I’m talking about having an option for only scoops and only bars like the conventional GMK set options. Right now EPBT normally does the combination barred and scooped keys, but you said that they can do barred without scoops. I’m wondering if they can also do just scoops with no bars, and if so can that be added to the base kit?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Loligagger on Mon, 25 March 2019, 13:14:51
I have sad news: I'll have to throw the Ergo kit away, because most of the 1.5u molds aren't available, unfortunately…
Sorry.

That's too bad. As far as I'm aware there are no other cherry profile PBT sets with the correct row 1.5u keys for an ergodox set.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Mon, 25 March 2019, 14:27:16
Barred and scooped homing keys are the best ever typing reference. They feel awesome, please do not change them. By all means you can add any other options.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Mon, 25 March 2019, 14:58:08
Barred and scooped homing keys are the best ever typing reference. They feel awesome, please do not change them. By all means you can add any other options.
ePBT scooped keys hit switch housings tho. Dunno how awesome would that feel...
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: RominRonin on Mon, 25 March 2019, 16:12:43
Shame about the ergodox kit (despite not being interested myself).

I'm just curious though; the nomad kit features 2x 1.25u row 3 caps (which is the main reason I'm buying in to this set) - do the molds definitely exist for those?

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Mon, 25 March 2019, 23:09:04
Barred and scooped homing keys are the best ever typing reference. They feel awesome, please do not change them. By all means you can add any other options.
ePBT scooped keys hit switch housings tho. Dunno how awesome would that feel...


My ergo clears don't do that.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: konfusd on Tue, 26 March 2019, 04:18:06
Damn shame about the ergo kit, that’s a deal breaker for me... otherwise it looks like an awesome set, best of luck!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Tue, 26 March 2019, 04:34:23
Shame about the ergodox kit (despite not being interested myself).

I'm just curious though; the nomad kit features 2x 1.25u row 3 caps (which is the main reason I'm buying in to this set) - do the molds definitely exist for those?

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Alright, so I checked with KBDFans… we can't do the R3 1.25u and 1.75u…
I'm really sorry. Communication isn't easy.

Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Tue, 26 March 2019, 05:46:29
Shame about the ergodox kit (despite not being interested myself).

I'm just curious though; the nomad kit features 2x 1.25u row 3 caps (which is the main reason I'm buying in to this set) - do the molds definitely exist for those?

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Alright, so I checked with KBDFans… we can't do the R3 1.25u and 1.75u…
I'm really sorry. Communication isn't easy.
RIP UT47 and some other 40s... Still buying at least one kit tho ;)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Tue, 26 March 2019, 05:53:28
Shame about the ergodox kit (despite not being interested myself).

I'm just curious though; the nomad kit features 2x 1.25u row 3 caps (which is the main reason I'm buying in to this set) - do the molds definitely exist for those?

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Alright, so I checked with KBDFans… we can't do the R3 1.25u and 1.75u…
I'm really sorry. Communication isn't easy.
RIP UT47 and some other 40s... Still buying at least one kit tho ;)

Yeah… I feel kinda stupid atm, not gonna lie  :(
I wish they told me which keys were not available before…
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Tue, 26 March 2019, 14:46:25
another update due to molds issues…

(https://i.imgur.com/5uXGSSv.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: RominRonin on Tue, 26 March 2019, 15:08:04
Alright, so I checked with KBDFans… we can't do the R3 1.25u and 1.75u…
I'm really sorry. Communication isn't easy.

we can't do the R3 1.25u

(https://media.giphy.com/media/Xjo8pbrphfVuw/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: aleck on Tue, 26 March 2019, 21:57:58
Any info about the price yet?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 26 March 2019, 22:28:12
Any info about the price yet?

Kuro Shiro should be launching on KBDfans any day now, probably can expect similar prices between the two.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Wed, 27 March 2019, 11:13:14
New renders:

(https://i.imgur.com/Swqgtdi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ShlNdLH.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: audiosl4ve on Wed, 27 March 2019, 11:43:38
Dang that looks so good. Maybe i'll hope onto this one if timing is right :)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 27 March 2019, 12:09:44
Dang that looks so good. Maybe i'll hope onto this one if timing is right :)
About 3 weeks

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Thu, 28 March 2019, 18:01:06
Katakana alphas?

(https://i.imgur.com/VS8PJ61.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 28 March 2019, 18:35:58
Yes.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: pcire on Thu, 28 March 2019, 18:43:02
Why not, sir?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TheCount on Thu, 28 March 2019, 18:55:38
Katakana alphas?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/VS8PJ61.png)


Yes, please!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 29 March 2019, 03:32:10
Katakana alphas?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/VS8PJ61.png)

Nice

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: iCoin on Fri, 29 March 2019, 04:54:24
Katakana alphas?

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(https://i.imgur.com/VS8PJ61.png)


ABSOLUTELY!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Fri, 29 March 2019, 08:25:51
A simple VIM kit is obligated. Key and legends in base colors. Nothing fancy.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 29 March 2019, 08:29:22
A simple VIM kit is obligated. Key and legends in base colors. Nothing fancy.
I would like to see a VIM kit as well
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Fri, 29 March 2019, 11:13:09
Katakana alphas?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/VS8PJ61.png)


IMO goes against the simple design of the rest of the kit... Also katakana is the new Space Cadet?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 29 March 2019, 11:22:04
IMO goes against the simple design of the rest of the kit... Also katakana is the new Space Cadet?

It's in homage to the AEK JP boards out there which use Katakana legends - they're super popular and a lot more expensive ($150+ for alphas) than regular AEKs for people who wanna harvest them for their custom alps builds. Considering it's an alternate kit and not imposed on the base or anything, I don't think it really is that big of a deal that goes against the ethos of the set. I can't specifically speak for Biip but I'd say it's also not a byproduct of weeb/cadet/etc legends being popular, it's just a homage to the Japanese AEK.

(http://i.imgur.com/fxftW.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Fri, 29 March 2019, 11:41:38
IMO goes against the simple design of the rest of the kit... Also katakana is the new Space Cadet?

It's in homage to the AEK JP boards out there which use Katakana legends - they're super popular and a lot more expensive ($150+ for alphas) than regular AEKs for people who wanna harvest them for their custom alps builds. Considering it's an alternate kit and not imposed on the base or anything, I don't think it really is that big of a deal that goes against the ethos of the set. I can't specifically speak for Biip but I'd say it's also not a byproduct of weeb/cadet/etc legends being popular, it's just a homage to the Japanese AEK.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/fxftW.jpg)


Oh, I wasn't aware there was a japanese AEK, thanks for enlightening me :thumb: In that case sure, as an addon why not.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Fri, 29 March 2019, 13:42:21
Any info about the price yet?

ePBT Kuro/Shiro just launched and their pricing is pretty flippin good... 54$ base and 42$ mods, means Extended 2048 could actually be around 100$ for the base kit!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Fri, 29 March 2019, 14:14:45
Any info about the price yet?

ePBT Kuro/Shiro just launched and their pricing is pretty flippin good... 54$ base and 42$ mods, means Extended 2048 could actually be around 100$ for the base kit!

Maybe even less 👀
I’m waiting for the final pricing!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Fri, 29 March 2019, 15:09:35
Oooh. Nice  !
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: kakiharaOne on Fri, 29 March 2019, 15:22:32
Is ePBT profile the same as GMK? Trying to see how bad an R2 will look on R1.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: iSamurai on Fri, 29 March 2019, 16:16:47
Any info about the price yet?

ePBT Kuro/Shiro just launched and their pricing is pretty flippin good... 54$ base and 42$ mods, means Extended 2048 could actually be around 100$ for the base kit!

Maybe even less
I’m waiting for the final pricing!
Wow man, you are just missing a Rama artisan and it will be the set of the year.

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Fri, 29 March 2019, 19:21:27
👀

(https://i.imgur.com/c3piOEq.png)



Quote
Is ePBT profile the same as GMK? Trying to see how bad an R2 will look on R1.

Yes
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 31 March 2019, 11:20:35
v nice
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 31 March 2019, 13:30:23
Still looking for some information about the factory addressing key warping. 
Title: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 31 March 2019, 13:38:45


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/c3piOEq.png)




Quote
Is ePBT profile the same as GMK? Trying to see how bad an R2 will look on R1.

Yes

>Do an IC for a Mac-inspired set
>Arrange the modifiers in Windows’ layout (Control, Windows, Alt) instead of Mac’s ^ ⌥ ⌘.

Come on now.
⌘ deserves so much better.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Sun, 31 March 2019, 14:09:23
Still looking for some information about the factory addressing key warping. 

Hey, let me know what you exactly want to know and I'll ask the manu :thumb:



Show Image
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Quote
Is ePBT profile the same as GMK? Trying to see how bad an R2 will look on R1.

Yes

>Do an IC for a Mac-inspired set
>Arrange the modifiers in Windows’ layout (Control, Windows, Alt) instead of Mac’s ^ ⌥ ⌘.

Come on now.
⌘ deserves so much better.

You could obviously re-arrange the position of the keycaps. I'm not sure to get it actually 🤔
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Hell-es on Sun, 31 March 2019, 14:41:12
Katakana alphas?

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(https://i.imgur.com/VS8PJ61.png)


Wasn‘t sure before ß but with katakanas 100 % in
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: voight-kampff on Sun, 31 March 2019, 14:52:51
What kind white will you choose for the caps?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Sun, 31 March 2019, 15:04:32
What kind white will you choose for the caps?

GMK L9
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Sun, 31 March 2019, 15:18:19
What kind white will you choose for the caps?

GMK L9


The real white.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: voight-kampff on Sun, 31 March 2019, 15:33:06
What kind white will you choose for the caps?

GMK L9


The real white.
Looks like somewhat yellowish to me. I like neutral white, not blueish and not yellowish.


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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 31 March 2019, 17:45:05
Biip,

I just didn't know if they manu has ever said anything about trying to fix warped larger keys.  It's been a problem on 2 of my recent ePBT sets.  Do they know it's a problem?  Are they taking steps to fix it?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Sun, 31 March 2019, 18:02:37
Biip,

I just didn't know if they manu has ever said anything about trying to fix warped larger keys.  It's been a problem on 2 of my recent ePBT sets.  Do they know it's a problem?  Are they taking steps to fix it?


It has been discussed previously and appears to be fixed already. In any case, there are easy ways to fix this problem.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Sun, 31 March 2019, 18:04:39
What kind white will you choose for the caps?

GMK L9


The real white.
Looks like somewhat yellowish to me. I like neutral white, not blueish and not yellowish.


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What I meant is that L9 is the classic OG Cherry white.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: OracleKev on Sun, 31 March 2019, 20:05:07
What kind white will you choose for the caps?

GMK L9

Can you consider color matching to AEKII instead?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Sun, 31 March 2019, 22:12:37
Keep L9. The design is classic and unique, as it is now. Please do not mess with it.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: voight-kampff on Sun, 31 March 2019, 23:56:58
Really cool set

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: OracleKev on Mon, 01 April 2019, 00:27:30
Keep L9. The design is classic and unique, as it is now. Please do not mess with it.

Come again?  Don't get how you jumped from L9 to classic and unique.
I just like to know what is the narrative behind L9.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 01 April 2019, 02:12:53
What kind white will you choose for the caps?

GMK L9

Can you consider color matching to AEKII instead?

I made some tests and it looked way too vintage for me. Cream color is tough to play with :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 01 April 2019, 03:00:37
Biip,

I just didn't know if they manu has ever said anything about trying to fix warped larger keys.  It's been a problem on 2 of my recent ePBT sets.  Do they know it's a problem?  Are they taking steps to fix it?

The manu is working on a corrective mold and there will be a new batch of keycaps apparently!
Title: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 01 April 2019, 05:33:52
What kind white will you choose for the caps?

GMK L9

LOL what L9?
That’s the same alpha base color as GMK Beige!

(http://i.imgur.com/N0x8oob.png)

I have an Alps build with AEK keycaps. They are grey white at the very least. The XDA Oblique guys used Pantone Cool Grey 2 U to match the original set more closely. Surely you guys can learn something from them?

(https://i.imgur.com/JWsrCwr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BAgXhqC.png)

Keep L9. The design is classic and unique, as it is now. Please do not mess with it.
This broke me. Hard.
By using L9, you are literally messing with a classic set.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 01 April 2019, 05:42:00
keep in mind that I did not want to reproduce an AEK set. It's just heavily inspired :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Mon, 01 April 2019, 07:28:21
Now that you linked Oblique, I've just realized... Could we perhaps get "Any" key in novelties?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: OracleKev on Mon, 01 April 2019, 08:10:10
keep in mind that I did not want to reproduce an AEK set. It's just heavily inspired :thumb:

Why L9?  AEK avant garde font and GMK classic beige alpha don't seem right together.  Feels like impressionist art in Louvre (instead of d'Orsay).
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Mon, 01 April 2019, 08:26:48
The OP does not imply in any way that this kit intends to be an AEK replica. While constructive dialogue is welcome, thread-crapping is not. Our comments have been heard and noted. Repeating the same comment multiple times may cross the thread-crapping boundary.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 01 April 2019, 08:39:56
The thing is, ofc I read all comments and do the pro/cons, the initial idea was not to replicate an AEK set.
You can be inspired and influenced by an aesthetic but not necessarily by the color scheme. My goal here was to create a neo-retro looking set.

I wanted a warm white because it's, IMO, a good balance between vintage and contemporary keyset design. I should get pics of the samples in a few days tho.
I looked at my Pantone® swatches and my GMK color ring and thought that L9 would be very good for this set; because it looked just bad with a yellowish white (Trust me, I made some mockups and asked for renders…).

Also, I wanted this set to be icon-based, so no text mods. So I won't add text novelties, sorry.

I hope this clarifies some interrogations.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: TuCZnak on Mon, 01 April 2019, 08:52:56
Also, I wanted this set to be icon-based, so no text mods. So I won't add text novelties, sorry.

Fair enough, now that you mention it being the only text novelty would look kinda weird. Still very hyped for the set tho, plenty more novelties anyway  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: garbo on Mon, 01 April 2019, 09:04:53
The OP does not imply in any way that this kit intends to be an AEK replica. While constructive dialogue is welcome, thread-crapping is not. Our comments have been heard and noted. Repeating the same comment multiple times may cross the thread-crapping boundary.

I don't know about that. The whole point of an interest check is to collect feedback. It's not thread crapping for different people to voice the same concerns - how else could you tell whether any point is more than a single dissenting opnion?

For the record, I do think it would be a missed opportunity to make this another beige cherry profile keyset instead of trying to match Apple's platinum grey more closely, and the difference is enough to personally put me off the set. I can still respect that biip has a different idea of how'd they want this to turn out and is free to make decisions as they see fit.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Mon, 01 April 2019, 09:56:25
The thing is, ofc I read all comments and do the pro/cons, the initial idea was not to replicate an AEK set.
You can be inspired and influenced by an aesthetic but not necessarily by the color scheme. My goal here was to create a neo-retro looking set.

I wanted a warm white because it's, IMO, a good balance between vintage and contemporary keyset design. I should get pics of the samples in a few days tho.
I looked at my Pantone® swatches and my GMK color ring and thought that L9 would be very good for this set; because it looked just bad with a yellowish white (Trust me, I made some mockups and asked for renders…).

Also, I wanted this set to be icon-based, so no text mods. So I won't add text novelties, sorry.

I hope this clarifies some interrogations.


+This.


The comment nailed the key points nicely. The concept of "Neo-Retro" summarizes it all. I see this set to be very close to an end-game for my needs. Being a PBT dye sub it should easily outlast me.


PD: If it fits your design concept, please consider to include a simple VIM kit, nothing fancy, just arrow sub-legends in the same colors. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 01 April 2019, 15:51:10
I'm not really convinced by this tbh.
If there is more interest I'll definitely make a VIM kit tho :thumb:

(https://i.imgur.com/SqHJ0ZD.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: mwahlig on Mon, 01 April 2019, 15:55:43
I'm not really convinced by this tbh.
If there is more interest I'll definitely make a VIM kit tho :thumb:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/SqHJ0ZD.png)

I’d be in for a VIM kit. Looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Gati on Mon, 01 April 2019, 16:08:21
I'm not really convinced by this tbh.
If there is more interest I'll definitely make a VIM kit tho :thumb:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/SqHJ0ZD.png)


I would def be in for a vim kit!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: rockydbull on Mon, 01 April 2019, 21:41:55
Another for the vim train! I also appreciate the balance you are trying to get with L9 and think it could set it up for some interesting blending with other sets in the future.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: OracleKev on Mon, 01 April 2019, 21:55:34
The thing is, ofc I read all comments and do the pro/cons, the initial idea was not to replicate an AEK set.
You can be inspired and influenced by an aesthetic but not necessarily by the color scheme. My goal here was to create a neo-retro looking set.

I wanted a warm white because it's, IMO, a good balance between vintage and contemporary keyset design. I should get pics of the samples in a few days tho.
I looked at my Pantone® swatches and my GMK color ring and thought that L9 would be very good for this set; because it looked just bad with a yellowish white (Trust me, I made some mockups and asked for renders…).

Also, I wanted this set to be icon-based, so no text mods. So I won't add text novelties, sorry.

I hope this clarifies some interrogations.

Cool, just wanted to know what you are thinking.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: OracleKev on Mon, 01 April 2019, 22:06:24
The OP does not imply in any way that this kit intends to be an AEK replica. While constructive dialogue is welcome, thread-crapping is not. Our comments have been heard and noted. Repeating the same comment multiple times may cross the thread-crapping boundary.

I don't know about that. The whole point of an interest check is to collect feedback. It's not thread crapping for different people to voice the same concerns - how else could you tell whether any point is more than a single dissenting opnion?

For the record, I do think it would be a missed opportunity to make this another beige cherry profile keyset instead of trying to match Apple's platinum grey more closely, and the difference is enough to personally put me off the set. I can still respect that biip has a different idea of how'd they want this to turn out and is free to make decisions as they see fit.

Well said.  I'm on the same page on both accounts.  Open to seeing L9 renders though.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: equalunique on Mon, 01 April 2019, 22:06:41
ePBT "another keyset that requires purchasing an extra kit for a 40% board" Extended 2048

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: OtherAndrew on Mon, 01 April 2019, 22:56:18
ePBT "another keyset that requires purchasing an extra kit for a 40% board" Extended 2048

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that's the way it's gotta be chief

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Tue, 02 April 2019, 02:18:18
Since I do VIM…
HHKB arrows?

(https://i.imgur.com/TyWWDRi.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Tue, 02 April 2019, 06:18:21
Since I do VIM…
HHKB arrows?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TyWWDRi.png)


An optional VIM/HHKB arrow sublegend kit could maybe work, I don't know if there's enough interest. I personally use HHKB layout boards exclusively but dislike sublegends.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Wed, 03 April 2019, 09:14:49
(https://i.imgur.com/8sDu4VN.png)

 :D
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: rockydbull on Wed, 03 April 2019, 09:35:40
I like the nav kit!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Wed, 03 April 2019, 12:46:21
Awesome nav kit. A neo-retro set in perfect balance.


Is there a launch date defined?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Wed, 03 April 2019, 12:50:37
Awesome nav kit. A neo-retro set in perfect balance.


Is there a launch date defined?

will communicate that very soon™ :thumb:
When I got final pricing!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Wed, 03 April 2019, 12:53:29
Awesome nav kit. A neo-retro set in perfect balance.


Is there a launch date defined?

will communicate that very soon™ :thumb:
When I got final pricing!


The wallet is ready and under siege.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: pcire on Wed, 03 April 2019, 12:56:05
Awesome nav kit. A neo-retro set in perfect balance.


Is there a launch date defined?

will communicate that very soon™ :thumb:
When I got final pricing!


The wallet is ready and under siege.

Wallet is bleeding, but one cannot miss out on a biip set!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 03 April 2019, 13:01:39
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8sDu4VN.png)


 :D

Any chance for a poker layout support in the Nav kit ? Up arrow ‘I’, and Right arrow ‘K’ ?
Would you consider it if it does not impact cost too much ?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Wed, 03 April 2019, 13:09:46
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8sDu4VN.png)


 :D

Any chance for a poker layout support in the Nav kit ? Up arrow ‘I’, and Right arrow ‘K’ ?
Would you consider it if it does not impact cost too much ?

I'm afraid that this layout is a bit too specific sadly.
Moreover, I'm actually finalizing the different kits in order to get the pricing.

I hope you understand!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: voight-kampff on Wed, 03 April 2019, 13:10:55
could you tell please what pantone color is more alike to the L9?

I have a pantone chart, maybe others too

thanks

The thing is, ofc I read all comments and do the pro/cons, the initial idea was not to replicate an AEK set.
You can be inspired and influenced by an aesthetic but not necessarily by the color scheme. My goal here was to create a neo-retro looking set.

I wanted a warm white because it's, IMO, a good balance between vintage and contemporary keyset design. I should get pics of the samples in a few days tho.
I looked at my Pantone® swatches and my GMK color ring and thought that L9 would be very good for this set; because it looked just bad with a yellowish white (Trust me, I made some mockups and asked for renders…).

Also, I wanted this set to be icon-based, so no text mods. So I won't add text novelties, sorry.

I hope this clarifies some interrogations.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Wed, 03 April 2019, 13:18:14
could you tell please what pantone color is more alike to the L9?

I have a pantone chart, maybe others too

thanks

The thing is, ofc I read all comments and do the pro/cons, the initial idea was not to replicate an AEK set.
You can be inspired and influenced by an aesthetic but not necessarily by the color scheme. My goal here was to create a neo-retro looking set.

I wanted a warm white because it's, IMO, a good balance between vintage and contemporary keyset design. I should get pics of the samples in a few days tho.
I looked at my Pantone® swatches and my GMK color ring and thought that L9 would be very good for this set; because it looked just bad with a yellowish white (Trust me, I made some mockups and asked for renders…).

Also, I wanted this set to be icon-based, so no text mods. So I won't add text novelties, sorry.

I hope this clarifies some interrogations.

Can't really tell unfortunately since my 4 Pantone swatches don't have a lot of white references…
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: voight-kampff on Wed, 03 April 2019, 13:48:33
I see. Are the set pics like the L9?

could you tell please what pantone color is more alike to the L9?

I have a pantone chart, maybe others too

thanks

The thing is, ofc I read all comments and do the pro/cons, the initial idea was not to replicate an AEK set.
You can be inspired and influenced by an aesthetic but not necessarily by the color scheme. My goal here was to create a neo-retro looking set.

I wanted a warm white because it's, IMO, a good balance between vintage and contemporary keyset design. I should get pics of the samples in a few days tho.
I looked at my Pantone® swatches and my GMK color ring and thought that L9 would be very good for this set; because it looked just bad with a yellowish white (Trust me, I made some mockups and asked for renders…).

Also, I wanted this set to be icon-based, so no text mods. So I won't add text novelties, sorry.

I hope this clarifies some interrogations.

Can't really tell unfortunately since my 4 Pantone swatches don't have a lot of white references…
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Hopeye on Wed, 03 April 2019, 16:28:18
Love this set. I'm in! Really hope Torii kit makes it to fruition, that really sells it for me.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: bru on Wed, 03 April 2019, 22:40:47
Small suggestion for the nav kit would be to make the arrows oblique like they are on the return and shift keys.

Been checking this thread daily for weeks now anticipating the GB and can't wait! Great work!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Thu, 04 April 2019, 02:05:35
Small suggestion for the nav kit would be to make the arrows oblique like they are on the return and shift keys.

Been checking this thread daily for weeks now anticipating the GB and can't wait! Great work!

I tried to skew em but they resulted harder to be recognized.
Thanks for the kind words, I will announce the GB date in a few hours :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 April 2019, 08:17:14
Small suggestion for the nav kit would be to make the arrows oblique like they are on the return and shift keys.

Been checking this thread daily for weeks now anticipating the GB and can't wait! Great work!

I tried to skew em but they resulted harder to be recognized.
Thanks for the kind words, I will announce the GB date in a few hours :o


(https://i.imgur.com/DJVfrT1.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: biip on Thu, 04 April 2019, 08:30:22
GB will run from April 19th to May 19th!
On KBDFans and Candykeys

Pricing:
Base Kit - 78€ / $75
Calc Kit - 16€ / $15
Icono Kit - 19€ / $18
Intl Kit - 19€ / $18
Nomad Kit - 19€ / $18
Six Pack - 8€ / $5
Torii Kit - 14€ / $12.5
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Thu, 04 April 2019, 08:50:59
Nav kit pricing?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: TuCZnak on Thu, 04 April 2019, 09:14:51
GB will run from April 19th to May 19th!
On KBDFans and Candykeys

Pricing:
Base Kit - 78€ / $75
Calc Kit - 16€ / $15
Icono Kit - 19€ / $18
Intl Kit - 19€ / $18
Nomad Kit - 19€ / $18
Six Pack - 8€ / $5
Torii Kit - 14€ / $12.5

 :eek:  Is this like the best priced set of the year? So hyped  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: OracleKev on Thu, 04 April 2019, 09:25:06
GB will run from April 19th to May 19th!
On KBDFans and Candykeys

Pricing:
Base Kit - 78€ / $75
Calc Kit - 16€ / $15
Icono Kit - 19€ / $18
Intl Kit - 19€ / $18
Nomad Kit - 19€ / $18
Six Pack - 8€ / $5
Torii Kit - 14€ / $12.5

 :eek:  Is this like the best priced set of the year? So hyped  :thumb:

That does seem like really good price!  Now I'm really torn.  Maybe L9 will be fine...  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: equalunique on Thu, 04 April 2019, 09:28:17
I have sad news: I'll have to throw the Ergo kit away, because most of the 1.5u molds aren't available, unfortunately…
Sorry.
I hope ePBT does something about that.

Got a Boardwalk PCB & a Clueboard 2x1800 on the way. Been looking for some cherry profile keycaps to match. ePBT would have been real nice but instead I went with GMK SkIIdata + the N9 ergodox kit, both from TKC - Ok I guess but legends not as classy as 2048.

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: biip on Thu, 04 April 2019, 09:29:01
Nav kit pricing?

will come soon!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: biip on Thu, 04 April 2019, 09:30:49
I have sad news: I'll have to throw the Ergo kit away, because most of the 1.5u molds aren't available, unfortunately…
Sorry.
I hope ePBT does something about that.

Got a Boardwalk PCB & a Clueboard 2x1800 on the way. Been looking for some cherry profile keycaps to match. ePBT would have been real nice but instead I went with GMK SkIIdata + the N9 ergodox kit, both from TKC - Ok I guess but legends not as classy as 2048.

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From KBDFans:
Quote
Epbt will fix the bending problem. Before shipment, they will make rectified molds. PBT plastic injection molding does have bending problem because of temperature
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: rockydbull on Thu, 04 April 2019, 09:39:53
GB will run from April 19th to May 19th!
On KBDFans and Candykeys

Pricing:
Base Kit - 78€ / $75
Calc Kit - 16€ / $15
Icono Kit - 19€ / $18
Intl Kit - 19€ / $18
Nomad Kit - 19€ / $18
Six Pack - 8€ / $5
Torii Kit - 14€ / $12.5

Wow the torii kit is dirt cheap! Auto add for me
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: kakiharaOne on Thu, 04 April 2019, 09:50:29
That must be a typo for the Torii kit price.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: ShadeDream on Thu, 04 April 2019, 09:59:27
Wow that's cheap for the Torii kit!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: jagger27 on Thu, 04 April 2019, 10:27:53
Wow fantastic prices!  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: HAYAN on Thu, 04 April 2019, 10:28:43
till 19th May?
9oooooooooooooooooooood
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 April 2019, 10:40:32
Tori and international kits have almost the same number of caps, that is why their pricing is also pretty close.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: TheAutoManCan on Thu, 04 April 2019, 10:47:16
Very good pricing! I’m definitely down to get several kits. Gotta show love for the icons!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: iCoin on Thu, 04 April 2019, 11:20:01
GB will run from April 19th to May 19th!
On KBDFans and Candykeys

Pricing:
Base Kit - 78€ / $75
Calc Kit - 16€ / $15
Icono Kit - 19€ / $18
Intl Kit - 19€ / $18
Nomad Kit - 19€ / $18
Six Pack - 8€ / $5
Torii Kit - 14€ / $12.5
Oh my....the prices!
I'll definitely get this set!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: wellbeing44 on Thu, 04 April 2019, 12:33:10
GB will run from April 19th to May 19th!
On KBDFans and Candykeys

Pricing:
Base Kit - 78€ / $75
Calc Kit - 16€ / $15
Icono Kit - 19€ / $18
Intl Kit - 19€ / $18
Nomad Kit - 19€ / $18
Six Pack - 8€ / $5
Torii Kit - 14€ / $12.5
One more beige set for me
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: _ODIN_ on Thu, 04 April 2019, 12:34:43
GB will run from April 19th to May 19th!
On KBDFans and Candykeys

Pricing:
Base Kit - 78€ / $75
Calc Kit - 16€ / $15
Icono Kit - 19€ / $18
Intl Kit - 19€ / $18
Nomad Kit - 19€ / $18
Six Pack - 8€ / $5
Torii Kit - 14€ / $12.5
One more beige set for me
For me too

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: Ephemeral on Thu, 04 April 2019, 13:04:38
GB will run from April 19th to May 19th!
On KBDFans and Candykeys

Pricing:
Base Kit - 78€ / $75
Calc Kit - 16€ / $15
Icono Kit - 19€ / $18
Intl Kit - 19€ / $18
Nomad Kit - 19€ / $18
Six Pack - 8€ / $5
Torii Kit - 14€ / $12.5

That ain't bad at all. I'll hop in.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: biip on Fri, 05 April 2019, 02:06:29
Nav Kit - 8€ / $5
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: Ashardalon on Fri, 05 April 2019, 02:21:00
This really is some fabulous pricing. I think I might just have to go in for this one!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: Sdhebert on Fri, 05 April 2019, 04:06:14
This is like watching an old Jobs product reveal where I yell at my screen, "just take my money now".

Great job on this set - I've been wanting this keyset for so long. And nice work on katakana too! Can't wait.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Fri, 05 April 2019, 12:36:02
Nav Kit - 8€ / $5

Man that’s awesome ! At that price point could you please add an “up arrow  I” and a “right arrow K”? I know you declined once , but pretty please ? Poker is a fairly popular budget 60% ?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: rockydbull on Fri, 05 April 2019, 12:41:17
Nav Kit - 8€ / $5

I wish nav kits in every set were this cheap. I am pretty much in for every kit but the international and that is only because I honestly have zero chance of ever using those keys.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: OtherAndrew on Fri, 05 April 2019, 13:29:27
apple look non apple prices

nice
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: jazzjarred on Fri, 05 April 2019, 19:58:16
Also very interested in the up I / right K for the Nav Kit. Many start with a Poker and continue the arrow layout with their customs.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 05 April 2019, 21:29:57
Make yourself a favor and give VIM nav keys a try. I suggest to use a software solution like TouchCursor with Space-FN. You will find that the best navigation happens at the home row.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: voight-kampff on Sat, 06 April 2019, 00:49:55
I wish there was nav keys for the Toro kit

Sent from my MIX using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: biip on Sat, 06 April 2019, 09:41:55
(https://i.imgur.com/fK8YHhR.png)

Like that? :)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: jazzjarred on Sat, 06 April 2019, 10:08:41
Thanks, it's close just needs left arrow on J :)

http://xahlee.info/kbd/i/KBC_Poker_3_keyboard_1.jpg
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: biip on Sat, 06 April 2019, 10:19:01
Thanks, it's close just needs left arrow on J :)

http://xahlee.info/kbd/i/KBC_Poker_3_keyboard_1.jpg

my bad.

(https://i.imgur.com/6CKGwdy.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: jazzjarred on Sat, 06 April 2019, 10:21:45
Amazing! :D
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: jld on Sat, 06 April 2019, 16:01:21
How long does production take with epbt once the group buy closes?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sat, 06 April 2019, 20:05:24
Thanks, it's close just needs left arrow on J :)

http://xahlee.info/kbd/i/KBC_Poker_3_keyboard_1.jpg

my bad.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/6CKGwdy.png)


Amazing !!! Thank you !! Thank you !!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 06 April 2019, 21:12:58
Thanks, it's close just needs left arrow on J :)

http://xahlee.info/kbd/i/KBC_Poker_3_keyboard_1.jpg (http://xahlee.info/kbd/i/KBC_Poker_3_keyboard_1.jpg)

my bad.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/6CKGwdy.png)



I cannot think in any other set that offers the full array of navigation keys covering poker, vim and hhkb. Very nice.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 06 April 2019, 21:51:11
Base + icons+ nav!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sat, 06 April 2019, 22:19:25
I’m in for all kits but the the nomad and intl. just cause I don’t really need those keys ( can anyone think of a reason for a guy to get the nomad kit if you don’t use anything less than a 60% ?

Thinking if I should get multiples of some sets. The coloreay makes it almost universally compatible with other icon mod kits ? Think of using the Torii set with serika microns ... thinking that might look  good..
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: TuCZnak on Sun, 07 April 2019, 04:58:53
can anyone think of a reason for a guy to get the nomad kit if you don’t use anything less than a 60% ?

It's cheap and you'll kick yourself if you ever want to try something smaller  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: voight-kampff on Sun, 07 April 2019, 06:35:04
No, like navigation kit with japanese characters / H J K L



Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/fK8YHhR.png)


Like that? :)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: biip on Sun, 07 April 2019, 06:47:20
No, like navigation kit with japanese characters / H J K L



Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/fK8YHhR.png)


Like that? :)

These keys already have a bottom right sublegend.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: rockydbull on Sun, 07 April 2019, 08:38:54
I’m in for all kits but the the nomad and intl. just cause I don’t really need those keys ( can anyone think of a reason for a guy to get the nomad kit if you don’t use anything less than a 60% ?

Thinking if I should get multiples of some sets. The coloreay makes it almost universally compatible with other icon mod kits ? Think of using the Torii set with serika microns ... thinking that might look  good..

Nomad is great if you ever want to dabble into split spacebars on your 60%
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 07 April 2019, 09:16:46
Take everything if you have the money. Just in case you want to try something else in the future. Or else, you'll be frustrated missing one key when you need it.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sun, 07 April 2019, 15:35:30
All excellent points, I never thought I’d use a 60 when I got in to the hobby. I’m convinced, all kits, and perhaps a second base kit !
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: Chekonjak on Wed, 10 April 2019, 01:44:03
I have sad news: I'll have to throw the Ergo kit away, because most of the 1.5u molds aren't available, unfortunately…
Sorry.
I hope ePBT does something about that.

Got a Boardwalk PCB & a Clueboard 2x1800 on the way. Been looking for some cherry profile keycaps to match. ePBT would have been real nice but instead I went with GMK SkIIdata + the N9 ergodox kit, both from TKC - Ok I guess but legends not as classy as 2048.

Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk

From KBDFans:
Quote
Epbt will fix the bending problem. Before shipment, they will make rectified molds. PBT plastic injection molding does have bending problem because of temperature

Does this mean that issues with the Dual kit will be fixed in time to have an ergo/Boardwalk kit for the  group buy? Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB date + pricing)
Post by: biip on Wed, 10 April 2019, 02:44:11
I have sad news: I'll have to throw the Ergo kit away, because most of the 1.5u molds aren't available, unfortunately…
Sorry.
I hope ePBT does something about that.

Got a Boardwalk PCB & a Clueboard 2x1800 on the way. Been looking for some cherry profile keycaps to match. ePBT would have been real nice but instead I went with GMK SkIIdata + the N9 ergodox kit, both from TKC - Ok I guess but legends not as classy as 2048.

Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk

From KBDFans:
Quote
Epbt will fix the bending problem. Before shipment, they will make rectified molds. PBT plastic injection molding does have bending problem because of temperature

Does this mean that issues with the Dual kit will be fixed in time to have an ergo/Boardwalk kit for the  group buy? Thanks!

I don't think they'll make new molds the those sorry.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 10 April 2019, 10:39:14
I'm pretty excited for this set. First keyset I'm buying in over a year.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 10 April 2019, 12:15:06
I'm pretty excited for this set. First keyset I'm buying in over a year.


Best value for the price. Most other sets are too expensive.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: macclack on Wed, 10 April 2019, 23:26:51
I'm pretty excited for this set. First keyset I'm buying in over a year.

You have some admirable self-control my friend.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: biip on Sat, 13 April 2019, 08:41:53
Update on Nomad kit

(https://i.imgur.com/9EXaRoj.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: TuCZnak on Sat, 13 April 2019, 09:05:21
Update on Nomad kit

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9EXaRoj.png)


What changed? I don't see any differences from the last version...
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: biip on Sat, 13 April 2019, 09:15:13
Update on Nomad kit

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9EXaRoj.png)


What changed? I don't see any differences from the last version...

R3 1.5u tab
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 13 April 2019, 09:28:48
Update on Nomad kit

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9EXaRoj.png)


What changed? I don't see any differences from the last version...

R3 1.25u tab

* 1.5u
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: biip on Sat, 13 April 2019, 09:41:20
Update on Nomad kit

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9EXaRoj.png)


What changed? I don't see any differences from the last version...

R3 1.25u tab

* 1.5u

woups
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 13 April 2019, 09:58:20
My 50 kb has 1.25 tab and 1.75 enter, that are not included in this set. But, I might have not use it much, as I am more productive with my 60s.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: biip on Mon, 15 April 2019, 07:14:41
Pearl renders by Oblotzky

(https://i.imgur.com/4FBX57b.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Vt40Zmm.png)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: TuCZnak on Mon, 15 April 2019, 09:21:05
The 40s kit was changed so much, has anyone even checked what boards can we cover now, or is it just a Planck + few oddities?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: biip on Mon, 15 April 2019, 09:29:50
The 40s kit was changed so much, has anyone even checked what boards can we cover now, or is it just a Planck + few oddities?

Yeah, that's due to mold issues.
I tried my best to cover the most possible layouts tho (in addition to base kit).
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: Chekonjak on Tue, 16 April 2019, 01:39:09
The 40s kit was changed so much, has anyone even checked what boards can we cover now, or is it just a Planck + few oddities?

Yeah, that's due to mold issues.
I tried my best to cover the most possible layouts tho (in addition to base kit).

So what would kits would I need to cover a Zen (between 1 and 4 2u keys, 8 1.5u keys (two per row), and the rest covered by an ortho kit and alphas)?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 16 April 2019, 08:35:09
The 40s kit was changed so much, has anyone even checked what boards can we cover now, or is it just a Planck + few oddities?

Yeah, that's due to mold issues.
I tried my best to cover the most possible layouts tho (in addition to base kit).

So what would kits would I need to cover a Zen (between 1 and 4 2u keys, 8 1.5u keys (two per row), and the rest covered by an ortho kit and alphas)?


There are 2u keys in the base, the calc and the nomad kit, one each; only the last one is blank. There are no 1.5u keys for all the rows. It is hard to give you some advice without a picture.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: monkt on Tue, 16 April 2019, 10:06:57
Are the legends on this any thinner than normal GMK legends, by comparison? I can’t tell if they are, or if it just looks that way to me because of the font style. I really like the look, but just wondering if the font weight is any different.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: TuCZnak on Fri, 19 April 2019, 01:16:33
KBDFans is live!
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/group-buy/products/starts-on-april-19-epbt-x-biip-2048-pbt-keycaps-set
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: biip on Fri, 19 April 2019, 07:05:11
the GB thread is waiting for approval.
GB live on KBDFans website: https://kbdfans.cn/collections/group-buy/products/starts-on-april-19-epbt-x-biip-2048-pbt-keycaps-set
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: TheCount on Fri, 19 April 2019, 07:25:17
Ordered! Now the wait begins.

Any chance we'll see a prototype still at some point?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: biip on Fri, 19 April 2019, 07:35:28
Ordered! Now the wait begins.

Any chance we'll see a prototype still at some point?

I should get some pics in a few days or before :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: w0odyallen on Fri, 19 April 2019, 16:04:36
Just bought in!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: kakiharaOne on Fri, 19 April 2019, 16:52:26
Just to confirm, there is no R2 1U pipe/forward slash key in any of the kits?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 19 April 2019, 16:56:02
Just to confirm, there is no R2 1U pipe/forward slash key in any of the kits?


What is that for?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: biip on Fri, 19 April 2019, 16:56:17
Just to confirm, there is no R2 1U pipe/forward slash key in any of the kits?

nope
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: kakiharaOne on Fri, 19 April 2019, 17:10:06
Just to confirm, there is no R2 1U pipe/forward slash key in any of the kits?


What is that for?

I'm starting to feel the pain of non-standard layout people. I'm not a big fan of DSA or XDA and trying to find a set that supports the oddball modifiers of the M0110. It also uses a 1U pipe key.

Was also trying to kit a 40% but looks like the R3 1.25 is missing.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: kakiharaOne on Fri, 19 April 2019, 17:10:57
Just to confirm, there is no R2 1U pipe/forward slash key in any of the kits?

nope

Thanks for confirming. :(
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: biip on Fri, 19 April 2019, 17:22:39
GB thread

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100318.0
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: welou on Sun, 21 April 2019, 07:20:48
I've been evaluating this keyset for Finnish/Swedish keyboard layout on macOS and I've identified a couple of smaller issues. I'm using the Finnish locale, but to my understanding the actual keyboards from Apple are identical for both Finland and Sweden (I'm not sure if the Swedish locale would produce different alternate characters). A bit late to point these out at this stage but I'll comment these anyway since I did not spot these in the earlier discussion.

The keys 4, 7 and 0 on the numerical row cannot be matched with this keyset to macOS FI/SWE layout. For my purposes I won't be needing function keys or the numpad area so I'm ignoring those entirely (but they seem OK).

In this layout the shift+4 should produce a € - symbol, while option+4 produces $. Therefore for FI/SWE layout the keyset should have a "4" - key with € - symbol at the top. The closest option for this key is the one from INTL kit with dollar symbol at the top and euro symbol at the lower right corner (so the currency symbols are in a reversed order for this layout). A preferred alternative would be a "4" - key with Euro symbol at the top. Apple themselves omit the Dollar alternate symbol.

The second issue concerns the curly brackets and the keys "7" and "0". On a FI/SWE layout three types of brackets ("()", "[]", "{}") are produced using the keys "8" and "9" on the numerical row. Combined with shift these keys produce the round brackets, combined with the option key they produce the square brackets and together with both shift and the option key they produce the curly brackets. Therefore the keycaps for "8" and "9" in the INTL kit are OK, but the keyset does not have options for keys "7" and "0" which would omit the additional curly bracket legends (the ones in BASE kit have incorrect alternative symbols for FI/SWE layout).

And for the sake of completeness, on a FI/SWE layout shift+7 produces "/", option+7 produces "|", shift+option+7 produces "\". Shift+0 produces "=", option+0 produces "≈", shift+option+0 produces "≠".

I'm new to this so cannot say if this in general is a known issue and just a consequence of the difficulty of matching all possible layouts. Seems to me that one additional key (a "4" with Euro on top, perhaps omitting the secondary alternate character, but if one was included it could be the Dollar symbol) and a change to two keys (omit the curly bracket legends from "7" and "0" in the INTL kit) would have made this set compatible with FI/SWE macOS layout. Or alternatively if the legends from "7" and "0" could not be removed, perhaps two additional keycaps would have been needed in the INTL kit to cover those as well.

I don't think these are dealbreakers for me and I can live with the inaccurate legends on the three keys, especially since I'm sure my locale is in a minority here. It was so close though...
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 21 April 2019, 17:42:13
@welou



Bellow is an example of an standard Swedish layout fitted with an OG Cherry double shot set owned by DT's user Dorf. As you can see, it can be fully reproduced with 2048 key set.


Apple's well known to make everything proprietary and it would not be a surprise that they decided to make its own version of Norde layouts. Therefore, what you referred to as small issues might be due to MacOS and not to this set.


(https://i.imgur.com/m4pELjE.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 21 April 2019, 17:49:36
@welou



Bellow is an example of an standard Swedish layout fitted with an OG Cherry double shot set owned by DT's user Dorf. As you can see, it can be fully reproduced with 2048 key set.


Apple's well known to make everything proprietary and it would not be a surprise that they decided to make its own version of Norde layouts. Therefore, what you referred to as small issues might be due to MacOS and not to this set.


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/m4pELjE.jpg)


i was gonna say the same thing
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 21 April 2019, 17:54:14
@welou



Bellow is an example of an standard Swedish layout fitted with an OG Cherry double shot set owned by DT's user Dorf. As you can see, it can be fully reproduced with 2048 key set.


Apple's well known to make everything proprietary and it would not be a surprise that they decided to make its own version of Norde layouts. Therefore, what you referred to as small issues might be due to MacOS and not to this set.


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/m4pELjE.jpg)


i was gonna say the same thing


I just began learning Japanese. Hoping to know at least the 1000+ kanji required for 6 graders, this year. Based on your location, you should be a Japanese speaker, right?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 21 April 2019, 18:25:14
@welou



Bellow is an example of an standard Swedish layout fitted with an OG Cherry double shot set owned by DT's user Dorf. As you can see, it can be fully reproduced with 2048 key set.


Apple's well known to make everything proprietary and it would not be a surprise that they decided to make its own version of Norde layouts. Therefore, what you referred to as small issues might be due to MacOS and not to this set.


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/m4pELjE.jpg)


i was gonna say the same thing


I just began learning Japanese. Hoping to know at least the 1000+ kanji required for 6 graders, this year. Based on your location, you should be a Japanese speaker, right?

my location is the name of a book

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ark_Sakura (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ark_Sakura)

i speak a little but not really enough to teach
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 21 April 2019, 18:30:36
@welou



Bellow is an example of an standard Swedish layout fitted with an OG Cherry double shot set owned by DT's user Dorf. As you can see, it can be fully reproduced with 2048 key set.


Apple's well known to make everything proprietary and it would not be a surprise that they decided to make its own version of Norde layouts. Therefore, what you referred to as small issues might be due to MacOS and not to this set.


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/m4pELjE.jpg)


i was gonna say the same thing


I just began learning Japanese. Hoping to know at least the 1000+ kanji required for 6 graders, this year. Based on your location, you should be a Japanese speaker, right?

my location is the name of a book

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ark_Sakura (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ark_Sakura)

i speak a little but not really enough to teach


I see. I really did not imply any help calling, but thank you very much for considering.  :p
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 22 April 2019, 00:23:50
@welou



Bellow is an example of an standard Swedish layout fitted with an OG Cherry double shot set owned by DT's user Dorf. As you can see, it can be fully reproduced with 2048 key set.


Apple's well known to make everything proprietary and it would not be a surprise that they decided to make its own version of Norde layouts. Therefore, what you referred to as small issues might be due to MacOS and not to this set.


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/m4pELjE.jpg)


i was gonna say the same thing


I just began learning Japanese. Hoping to know at least the 1000+ kanji required for 6 graders, this year. Based on your location, you should be a Japanese speaker, right?

my location is the name of a book

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ark_Sakura (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ark_Sakura)

i speak a little but not really enough to teach


I see. I really did not imply any help calling, but thank you very much for considering.  :p

i like to help when i can

i just also like to ****post about anything that moves
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: biip on Mon, 22 April 2019, 03:43:40
Hey, I was not aware that there was a specific Mac layout for Finnish/Swedish languages. And unfortunately it’s now too late to make changes. I hope it’s not a deal breaker.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: welou on Mon, 22 April 2019, 14:57:19
Bellow is an example of an standard Swedish layout fitted with an OG Cherry double shot set owned by DT's user Dorf. As you can see, it can be fully reproduced with 2048 key set.

Apple's well known to make everything proprietary and it would not be a surprise that they decided to make its own version of Norde layouts. Therefore, what you referred to as small issues might be due to MacOS and not to this set.

Apple's keyboards go further back in history than the relevant ISO and ANSI standards so that characterisation isn't entirely fair (meaning: in order to deviate from a standard the standard has to exist first). I admit, though, that I don't know when the first specifically SWE/FI keyboard was made by them and what layout it might have followed. Or their first ISO keyboards in general.

When it comes to this keyset it seems fairly obvious to me that it would mainly be of interest to macOS users. The icons used in the keyset wouldn't match the UI in Linux or Windows systems and on macOS I'd expect many users would like to retain the integration between the keyboard symbols and the system UI (which this keyset allows). For reference, here's an example from their developer documentation of the icons used in system menus (https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/macos/menus/menu-bar-menus/ (https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/macos/menus/menu-bar-menus/)):
(https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/macos/images/menuBarMenus_2x.png)

In this light it would make sense in this case to follow Apple's keyboard layouts in situations where there's a conflict (the quoted comment from biip is relevant here).

Hey, I was not aware that there was a specific Mac layout for Finnish/Swedish languages. And unfortunately it’s now too late to make changes. I hope it’s not a deal breaker.

No worries! Already went with the BASE, INTL and ICONO kits because the set looks so nice. But maybe this is useful information in general regarding international kits? As far as I can see the three keys (4, 7 and 0) were the only problematic ones for FI/SWE on macOS, but there could of course be more regional differences in other macOS locales.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 22 April 2019, 16:20:48
The use of Mac icons does not make this set targeted to mac users. It is something you will learn as you see more GBs and stay around keyboard forums.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: biip on Tue, 23 April 2019, 02:49:07
Keep in mind that this set is inspired by Apple Extended Keyboards (I & II).
The goal here wasn't to replicated something existing or to create a sequel of an Apple keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Tue, 04 June 2019, 00:17:03
Any dyesub samples yet ?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Windeh on Tue, 04 June 2019, 11:53:37
👀

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/c3piOEq.png)


I bought the set before I saw the render...  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: biip on Wed, 05 June 2019, 02:30:41
Any dyesub samples yet ?

I should receive them in 2-3 days :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: eirunoopi on Tue, 18 June 2019, 13:09:51
Sorry to be that guy, but is there any chance of spare/extra sets now that the GB period is over?
I don't check these forums as often as I should...
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048 (GB 04/19 — 05/19)
Post by: Hotsauce on Sat, 06 July 2019, 22:15:09
Hopefully KBDFans purchased a lot of extras....
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: BahaMech on Sat, 17 August 2019, 00:10:30
any updates on how its coming along?
Thanks, Dion
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: CYFX on Sun, 18 August 2019, 18:29:26
any updates on how its coming along?
Thanks, Dion

You should be checking the GB thread for updates, rather than the IC.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: biip on Mon, 19 August 2019, 02:31:30
shipping is starting next week :thumb:

Also, would be nice if a mod could lock this topic.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: donkey on Sun, 06 October 2019, 13:08:07
shipping is starting next week :thumb:

Also, would be nice if a mod could lock this topic.

Biip, please do another round of 2048 ASAP. 2048 is going to be a classic.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: heyjaykay on Thu, 10 October 2019, 03:21:09
Really need this. Hope it runs again

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Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Senor Coconut on Sun, 10 November 2019, 08:49:20
Same here…(wonder why this topic isn't closed? well, still a safe place to whine…)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: CrazyNun on Sun, 10 November 2019, 09:46:15
Yeay, need this, hope it runs again
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: Hapi on Thu, 16 January 2020, 02:32:19
Yeay, need this, hope it runs again
me to
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: consumer on Thu, 16 January 2020, 04:31:23
Yeay, need this, hope it runs again
me to

I'm definitely in for this
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: krpsh on Fri, 17 April 2020, 21:56:43
i love it
too late..
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: bobgr8 on Sat, 18 April 2020, 11:53:34
I have the set, and even I hope it runs again!
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: RominRonin on Sun, 19 April 2020, 15:43:03
It would be great if won’t supported the various 40s kits. I wonder if they’ve raised the budget for the tooling...?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 19 April 2020, 16:11:38
I bought a couple of sets. And very happy with the design - the epbt quality is still not up to par with GMK but I can tolerate it.
If GMK 2048 can happen it will be a true blessing, but yeah I know it will be a long shot.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: macclack on Sun, 19 April 2020, 17:31:59
I bought a couple of sets. And very happy with the design - the epbt quality is still not up to par with GMK but I can tolerate it.
If GMK 2048 can happen it will be a true blessing, but yeah I know it will be a long shot.

That would be an expensive project. But cool to see happen.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: krpsh on Sun, 19 April 2020, 20:01:24
I bought a couple of sets. And very happy with the design - the epbt quality is still not up to par with GMK but I can tolerate it.
If GMK 2048 can happen it will be a true blessing, but yeah I know it will be a long shot.
You are thinking what I am thinking.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: RominRonin on Sun, 19 April 2020, 20:14:28
I’m curious, what did you think was not up to par with GMK?
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Mon, 20 April 2020, 07:50:44
I bought a couple of sets. And very happy with the design - the epbt quality is still not up to par with GMK but I can tolerate it.
If GMK 2048 can happen it will be a true blessing, but yeah I know it will be a long shot.




Double shot ABS are totally different to PBT dysubs. There is no point in comparing them.
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: piit79 on Tue, 21 April 2020, 06:20:38
I’m curious, what did you think was not up to par with GMK?
Also wonder. I was very pleasantly surprised by the quality, the legends are beautiful and sharp - better than GMK. I also very much enjoy the silky smooth texture.

I heard there's some warping, but I wouldn't know as my largest cap is a 2u spacebar ;)
Title: Re: [IC] EnjoyPBT Extended 2048
Post by: ideus on Wed, 22 April 2020, 08:47:35
I’m curious, what did you think was not up to par with GMK?
Also wonder. I was very pleasantly surprised by the quality, the legends are beautiful and sharp - better than GMK. I also very much enjoy the silky smooth texture.

I heard there's some warping, but I wouldn't know as my largest cap is a 2u spacebar ;)




My set does not have any flaw. It is just beautiful. I think, some people repeat the mantra that GMK is better than anything else. I really like my OG Cherry sets and the few GMKs that I have are not bad either. While I love the shiny textures of my old and used OG Cherry, the texture on ePBT feels just very nice to not like it.