If it's Desko, shouldn't we have OG beige and text+icon mods?
This is an interesting-looking set with a cool backstory. I think it will do well :) A few suggestions:
Base kit
- Add the missing ー quaternary (top-right) sublegend to the -_ほ key.
References and examples: 1 (https://imgur.com/a/Y2rvl1s) 2 (https://imgur.com/3YODxTM) 3 (https://i.imgur.com/BIw2oxu.jpg) 4 (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114733308117053/gmk_js_kit_01_base.jpg). (This character is a Japanese prolonged sound mark, not a regular dash.)- Change R4 1.25u Menu to Fn.
Fn is the more common legend, used on a wide variety of boards and sizes. Menu has limited uses, primarily for “standard”/non-programmable TKL and full-size boards with 6.25u bottom rows. But in these cases, Fn is a viable replacement for it, whereas Menu isn't really a viable replacement for Fn in other cases. Fn is also more popular overall, so it would be the preferred legend choice here.- Add R3 Pg Up, R4 Pg Dn for modern 65%/75% layouts.
65% is the most popular layout in the community (source (https://i.imgur.com/wFKVLxc)), and a lot of people need these keys to cover their 65% layouts. Including these keys is statistically more worthwhile than, for example, 1.5u OS keys or stepped 1.75u Control, which is why most GMK sets include the former and don't include the latter.- Speaking of stepped R3 1.75u Control, if this isn't a personal addition of yours, I would suggest removing it.
This key isn't popular enough to warrant being included in a base kit. There are already more than enough options for the R3 1.75u key. If R3 Control users really want a stepped key, they can use stepped ⇩. In fact, some sets (e.g. GMK Rouge) chose to not include R3 Control at all because the ⇩ is generic-looking enough that it can be used for Control.- Including a green 2.75u Shift might be worthwhile.
2.75u isn't prevalent in the enthusiast community, but it is still commonly used on custom TKLs, and I think this set would really shine on TKLs. Case in point: the inspiration behind the set, NMUR's TKL, has a green 2.75u Shift.- Speaking of TKLs, consider including a mod-colored R1 1u F13 key (or a R1 1u text novelty).
Spacebar kit
- Include a 1.25u space key.
This size is useful not just for Alice and similar boards (2u+1.25u left space), but also for standard split 6.25u space configurations on various ≥60% boards (2.75u+1.25u+2.25u, 2.25u+1.25u+2.75u).
As a side note, I really dig the “No Signal” deskmat design, and I'm probably going to pick one up even if I don't end up getting the set itself.
Thanks for reading, happy to hear your thoughts :)
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Hi thanks for your constructed comment as always
1) Did my render guy did it wrong or you're suggesting that GMK hiraganas are wrong ? if it's just the render, it's gonna get corrected asap :)
2) I prefere menu
3) Im considering it
4) Agreed, may remove it
5) Sorry render problem, gonna fix it, thanks for telling me
6) Im willing to include a F420 or a F69 if that suits people's needs just for the meme
7)Ill consider the 1.25 u but don't count too much on it.
Thanks a lot for your comment, waiting on your reply :)
¥ on pipe please
Hi thanks for your constructed comment as always
1) Did my render guy did it wrong or you're suggesting that GMK hiraganas are wrong ? if it's just the render, it's gonna get corrected asap :)
2) I prefere menu
3) Im considering it
4) Agreed, may remove it
5) Sorry render problem, gonna fix it, thanks for telling me
6) Im willing to include a F420 or a F69 if that suits people's needs just for the meme
7)Ill consider the 1.25 u but don't count too much on it.
Thanks a lot for your comment, waiting on your reply :)
1) GMK now has the correct mold for this key, so it's just the render.
2) Can't argue with that :) In that case, consider including a separate R4 1.25u Fn key. Although, I wouldn't say that it's a must; the other suggestions I had are more important.
5) 👍 Looks like it's already been fixed, nice.
6) That would be pretty cool ngl
I hadn't mentioned it previously, but how do you feel about using Super or System instead of Code for the OS key legends?¥ on pipe please
If consistency/accuracy is one of the goals, this isn't a good idea. See here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108328.msg2950676#msg2950676).
If R3 Control users really want a stepped key, they can use stepped ⇩. In fact, some sets (e.g. GMK Rouge) chose to not include R3 Control at all because the ⇩ is generic-looking enough that it can be used for Control.
2) I prefere menu2) Can't argue with that :) In that case, consider including a separate R4 1.25u Fn key. Although, I wouldn't say that it's a must; the other suggestions I had are more important.
I also hope that this becomes a full base kit with numpad, as it is fairly unreasonable cost-wise to do a TKL-and-smaller only kit with GMK (only justification for it would be if you were expecting to sell at least 1k units, but you must have a numpad kit as well).
You've included 1800/CP layout support without a numpad, in case you weren't aware.
Love the idea of the set, but hope this current trend of not including Numpad at least as a separate kit doesn't become a common occurence.I also hope that this becomes a full base kit with numpad, as it is fairly unreasonable cost-wise to do a TKL-and-smaller only kit with GMK (only justification for it would be if you were expecting to sell at least 1k units, but you must have a numpad kit as well).
You've included 1800/CP layout support without a numpad, in case you weren't aware.
Lightning's right on the money with this. With your current kitting, you're suggesting you're okay sacrificing compatibility for multiple accented options to achieve a similar price.
I like the colorway although I hope you consider text-only mods or text + icon.
What’s the black used I’m assuming CR?
Btw for the extra enter + tab key.
Yeah I think I can safely say that I’ll add it :)
Sooo, not including a numpad is part of your personal enjoyment? Your grand vision for this product? Strange, but you do you. I still think not having a numpad in any way will hurt your set in the end, and I hope it's a trend that doesn't catch on in the least.
Sooo, not including a numpad is part of your personal enjoyment? Your grand vision for this product? Strange, but you do you. I still think not having a numpad in any way will hurt your set in the end, and I hope it's a trend that doesn't catch on in the least.
That's not an argument, because you can say that for every possible compat, even 40%
Nobody forced anyone to have numpad in a set.
For a fact nobody complains in the GMK Honore thread.
Let's break the "codes" for once I guess :)
I hate those FAQ's that designers do. Just write; F: Will you take feedback? A: No.
I hate those FAQ's that designers do. Just write; F: Will you take feedback? A: No.
If you look what I answered to Konstantin you'd understand that I took and considered almost everything he told.
The FAQ was just here to advertise people that some layouts won't be covered.
I'd rather be honnest from the start and say "yeah maybe I'll consider it" and never make it.
Sorry if you thought that it was mean, that was really not the case and I appologise if people felt the same. :thumb:
For Sys/code etc. I don't really mind, but it's kinda like the menu, I guess I'm used to it so I didn't questionned it.
A lot of people seem to do the same but I guess it's pure personnal preferences.
So I wouldnt be against some changes unless people really request it , which I doubt
If R3 Control users really want a stepped key, they can use stepped ⇩. In fact, some sets (e.g. GMK Rouge) chose to not include R3 Control at all because the ⇩ is generic-looking enough that it can be used for Control.
First sentence I agree with, but second I'd suggest against. Considering a lot of this kit panders to the HHKB keyboard influence and layout, not having a R3 Control would just seem odd and unnecessary.
2) Can't argue with that :) In that case, consider including a separate R4 1.25u Fn key. Although, I wouldn't say that it's a must; the other suggestions I had are more important.
I'd support a 1.25u FN key; my FC750R actually has Alt/Fn/Menu/Ctrl on the right side of the spacebar, so I'm okay with both Menu and FN :p
However, and somewhat ironically, in the render of the dark gray U80, it appears a 1.25u FN key already exists. At this point that seems like an oversight, but hopefully that was a Freudian Slip.
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this looks pretty nice, the deskmat in the first render should really be an option though. it looks far cooler than the others. personaly id like text and icon mods. i dont mind about the numpad either way.
Can't stop thinking about GMK Minimal 2.
this is pretty lit, killer renders too.
2 main things
1. numpad avail?
2. are any of these colors stock, or is it fully custom? i like the tones of the alphas/mods a lot.
If R3 Control users really want a stepped key, they can use stepped ⇩. In fact, some sets (e.g. GMK Rouge) chose to not include R3 Control at all because the ⇩ is generic-looking enough that it can be used for Control.
First sentence I agree with, but second I'd suggest against. Considering a lot of this kit panders to the HHKB keyboard influence and layout, not having a R3 Control would just seem odd and unnecessary.
No worries, the second sentence wasn't part of the suggestion, I was just using that example to further my point about stepped Control not being necessary. I agree that regular R3 1.75u Control should definitely be in this set.
However, one thing that may be worth considering when it comes to this key, is changing the Control text to a ∧ icon (e.g. like GMK Red Devils (https://i.imgur.com/ZyyOr1U.jpg)). It fits in a bit better aesthetically with the surrounding icon mods. See below for an example:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ngbaQa9.png)2) Can't argue with that :) In that case, consider including a separate R4 1.25u Fn key. Although, I wouldn't say that it's a must; the other suggestions I had are more important.
I'd support a 1.25u FN key; my FC750R actually has Alt/Fn/Menu/Ctrl on the right side of the spacebar, so I'm okay with both Menu and FN :p
However, and somewhat ironically, in the render of the dark gray U80, it appears a 1.25u FN key already exists. At this point that seems like an oversight, but hopefully that was a Freudian Slip.
That's a good point, some TKLs do indeed use both Menu + Fn instead of Super + Fn/Menu. A few off the top of my head are: Drop CTRL and ENTR, Leopold FC750R, GMMK ТKL, Durgod K320. And I guess some people may prefer to have it this way on their customs, but I'm not sure how common that is.
I think the bigger argument in favor of also having Fn as an option is that, on its own, it trumps Menu in terms of popularity across a wide variety of boards and layouts (all the way from 40s up to full-size).
Love this! Any chance of getting a Canadian vendor?
Hi there,
First I want to thank all of you for your feedback, this was really important to make such decisions for the future of the set, here are the new changes :
Yes I made a very simple numpad kit, a separate one, I hope you guys are now happy with that :thumb:Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/zX47xGpW/Numpad.jpg)
For the latin kit I added an extra tab and enter so you can fit 2 keyboards with base + latinShow Image(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqSchsG5/Latin2.jpg)
For the base kit, I added R3 Pg R4 PgDn. Didn't do more modification to it, since imho it's perfect like thatShow Image(https://i.postimg.cc/g2RDQbB7/BaseTrue.jpg)
I hope that now the set fits your needs and that you're happy about the changes, and if not, please tell me why ;D
Maybe this is not important at all, but..
Numpad kit's naming should be uniform like others.
Namu paddo kitto or something.
aight cool now nobody can ever think to make another ic without a numpad
straight goofin'
will a Norde kit be included as addon?
Hi there,
First I want to thank all of you for your feedback, this was really important to make such decisions for the future of the set, here are the new changes :
Yes I made a very simple numpad kit, a separate one, I hope you guys are now happy with that :thumb:Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/zX47xGpW/Numpad.jpg)
For the latin kit I added an extra tab and enter so you can fit 2 keyboards with base + latinShow Image(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqSchsG5/Latin2.jpg)
For the base kit, I added R3 Pg R4 PgDn. Didn't do more modification to it, since imho it's perfect like thatShow Image(https://i.postimg.cc/g2RDQbB7/BaseTrue.jpg)
I hope that now the set fits your needs and that you're happy about the changes, and if not, please tell me why ;D
Very interested, but there are no colored/accent 1.25u mods? This render seems to show it at least:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qts5Xry.jpg)
Very interested, but there are no colored/accent 1.25u mods? This render seems to show it at least:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qts5Xry.jpg)
That’s a mistake, This set is meant for wkl/tsangan bottom row.
Sorry for the false hope
Update : GB will happen the 10th of April 2021.
Kits are fixed.
Will collab with artisan makers and cable makers
Answers to older comments :
1) Green dosent match wavez because Wavez R2 will run this year :thumb:
2) Red HHKB control is something I hesitated but Im not so sure considering this is an icon mod keycap sets, and adding a control text key won’t be that good looking.
As usual, thanks for your insane support !
Is the latin alphas CR legends on WS1?
What’s the black used I’m assuming CR?
Forgot to include it lol, thank god you remind me.
Should be CR yes.
Hi there, sorry for the lack of updates.
I would like to thank all of you guys for the amazing support for this group-buy.
The Group-buy will start April 19th for a month.
The proxies are the following :
EU : Candykeys
US : Mekibo
CN : Zfrontier
UK : ProtoTypist
AUS : Switchkeys
CA : AshKeebs
On top of that, we decided to collaborate with KeebStuff to offer you some nice cables !Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/TPkQ7kjg/Hero.jpg)Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/N0GpxhXQ/DSC-1262.jpg)
I will communicate in a near future about the prices, and will also make a GB thread pretty soon.
Take care and stay safe,
Enjoy.
Missing keycap?
Hello on this render are R4 1U red <Code> keycaps, but they are not included in any kit.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4xmUN5F.jpg)