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« Reply #50 on: Sat, 14 June 2014, 04:23:38 »
There are some matrix glyph fonts on google that we could use. Does anyone know the program that people use to mockup key sets, if so I could make one for a Matrix glyph layout.

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« Reply #51 on: Sat, 14 June 2014, 04:26:52 »
you can't 2-shot a full keyboard with custom legends. It would end up costing you way too much.

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« Reply #52 on: Tue, 17 June 2014, 19:25:59 »
Okay, so I managed to get my hands on these pics...

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(without backlighting during daylight)

And then...

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(with backlighting)

I like the gritty nature of the legends myself and I think that it would be cool to offer them in this way as an electric rain variant to the normal novelty set. Please weigh in on this...
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« Reply #53 on: Tue, 17 June 2014, 19:32:07 »
Okay, so I managed to get my hands on these pics...

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(without backlighting during daylight)

And then...

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(with backlighting)

I like the gritty nature of the legends myself and I think that it would be cool to offer them in this way as an electric rain variant to the normal novelty set. Please weigh in on this...

Ooh I recognise where those are from!

They could look best with green backlighting, being a Matrix theme and everything.

Might have to take my green backlit keyboard back from the guy who is borrowing it :))
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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 17 June 2014, 20:20:10 »
even though it's not properly "matrix" I would do the pill like this

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white on blue polycarbonate and white on red polycarbonate are nice ideas

You want proper pills...? I got proper pills:

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What do you think?

And this is what they would look like in PolyCarb with White Legends:

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Here is a green PolyCarb with a Black legend just for fun...

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« Reply #55 on: Tue, 17 June 2014, 21:42:51 »
I like the polycarb ones :)
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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 18 June 2014, 00:43:19 »
the dark PC caps are not very much readable...

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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 19 June 2014, 20:04:59 »
New mock up image available thanks to Matt3o. This one is good to go and has gotten the SP all clear for Double-Shootability...

As I finish each one and get the okay, I will post each final keycap mock up.
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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 10:42:32 »
Love it, major Matrix fan over here :)

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« Reply #59 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 10:44:31 »
Love it, major Matrix fan over here :)

Dont forget about the lady in red!

Maybe...I'm thinking a Red Stiletto
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« Reply #60 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 10:46:44 »
I can't believe it was 1999... it seems like yesterday...


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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 11:45:22 »
What happened to the white rabbit :3


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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 12:02:10 »
What happened to the white rabbit :3


There will be a white rabbit, but I will not post the final mockups until SP tells me they are good to go. I don't want to get anyone's hopes about certain designs. I will post it just as soon as I get the nod...
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« Reply #63 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 12:32:47 »
c'mon zero, make us dream.

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« Reply #64 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 12:44:35 »
I can't believe it was 1999... it seems like yesterday...

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Don't tell me you are a comic book fan :D Stuart's work is fantastic,I must read again some of his works.

OT: I'm curious how the Matrix caps will look in the final mockup, it's an interesting project
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« Reply #65 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:00:07 »
Don't tell me you are a comic book fan :D Stuart's work is fantastic,I must read again some of his works.

indeed I am :) I'm not a comic book freak but I love selected works of selected artists (sin city, v for vendetta, moebius, ...)

if zero is not going to do a full set, I might even consider a Matrix set...

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« Reply #66 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:06:59 »
Don't tell me you are a comic book fan :D Stuart's work is fantastic,I must read again some of his works.

indeed I am :) I'm not a comic book freak but I love selected works of selected artists (sin city, v for vendetta, moebius, ...)

if zero is not going to do a full set, I might even consider a Matrix set...

Please do...I would rather just do novelty sets...
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« Reply #67 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:07:48 »
Matt3o is a full set mastah
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« Reply #68 on: Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:25:52 »
I have already seen that ;)
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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #69 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 14:05:26 »
Just posted final mock ups! I have included three, count them three Geek Hack keycaps. Question: If I make all these keycaps available in one Parent group buy, will we be able to pull off selling 50 of them? If so, the price almost halves...

I need suggestions on how to section this Group Buy up, if necessary.

Also, is three Geek Hack keycaps too many?

Please note: All Red, Blue, and Green you see will be Poly Carbonate Transparent plastic. Black and white will be standard ABS.

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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 15:48:23 »
Also, is three Geek Hack keycaps too many?

No. You can never have enough Geek Hack keys.  :))

The set looks really nice. Are you going to do this as all one set?

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« Reply #71 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 16:52:10 »
Also, is three Geek Hack keycaps too many?

No. You can never have enough Geek Hack keys.  :))

The set looks really nice. Are you going to do this as all one set?

Should I? The cost for them all at once is steep until we sell 50...then it goes to half...
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« Reply #72 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 16:53:52 »
Also, is three Geek Hack keycaps too many?

No. You can never have enough Geek Hack keys.  :))

The set looks really nice. Are you going to do this as all one set?

If you could cull this thing back even further what would you get rid of to make it more affordable?
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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:13:24 »
I am beginning to think I have too many pills...
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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:17:03 »
I'm not an expert my any means, but the only way I can think of making it more affordable is by dropping a few keys. GEEK HACK keys and Modifiers might be the one's to drop, but folks like matt3o would probably have much more insight than me.

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« Reply #75 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:18:09 »
I'm not an expert my any means, but the only way I can think of making it more affordable is by dropping a few keys. GEEK HACK keys and Modifiers might be the one's to drop, but folks like matt3o would probably have much more insight than me.

If you could pick only one geekhack key, which would you want?
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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:18:23 »
It might work just fine as is. The logical way to split it up (which might not match the way potential collectors are looking at this set when it goes "live") is: mammalian keys in one set, pills (all of them) in another, and GH keys in their own set. Maybe you could mark up the individual sets twenty five cents per key unless they're purchased as the whole set ... that would be reasonable for those who just want more GH keys, and also encourage the fence-riders to push them all over the 50-copy tipping point.

edit: my $0.02: I'd drop the white pills & GH first. All three -- there are precious few polycarbonate keys, but white backgrounds with colors, even in an uncommon plastic, don't shout "hey buy me I'm new" like glow in the dark green.
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« Reply #77 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:20:25 »
Personally I like the green on black, especially if it is going to be a bright green.

Like mashby says, you cannot have enough GH keys :)

As long as the red and blue pill keys are 1.25x, you could probably drop the other white/red/blue 1x pills.

Gotta keep the white rabbit!  But maybe drop the black cat, if you have to (whilst retaining the green one).
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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #78 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:24:51 »
As an alternative theory... having the GH keys mixed in might help boost sales? I don't know how many people collect them like I do, so I can't say so definitely.

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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #79 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:28:19 »
Personally I like the green on black, especially if it is going to be a bright green.

Like mashby says, you cannot have enough GH keys :)

As long as the red and blue pill keys are 1.25x, you could probably drop the other white/red/blue 1x pills.

Gotta keep the white rabbit!  But maybe drop the black cat, if you have to (whilst retaining the green one).

I have to tell you that the Green is not bright green, it is translucent Polycarbonate for gritty backlighting...
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« Reply #80 on: Mon, 23 June 2014, 19:45:30 »
See the updated mocks section:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57916.0
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« Reply #81 on: Tue, 24 June 2014, 01:08:11 »
I hope the poly on black works out ok. It's very difficult to see the poly on black bumblebee caps without backlighting.

It would be awesome if you could do translucent green on black keycaps.
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« Reply #82 on: Tue, 24 June 2014, 13:02:15 »
I hope the poly on black works out ok. It's very difficult to see the poly on black bumblebee caps without backlighting.

It would be awesome if you could do translucent green on black keycaps.

Okay, so changing yet again...waiting for SP to okay my current pitch. I am scaling this thing way back and changing to something more readable.

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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 24 June 2014, 18:12:31 »
I am considering the next Group Buy. This one is simple, a few novelty keycaps that feature objects from the first film (the only one that matters IMHO). They will be DCS F Row ABS Double Shots and two modifiers 1x1.25 Poly Carbonate Pills:


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All red and blue will be Polycarbonate, like Keypop's:

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If you could pick one legend you would not like to see in the set, which would it be? I need to shave off one more legend to make this thing affordable for everyone.
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« Reply #84 on: Tue, 24 June 2014, 18:17:50 »
I'm a fan of green on black, but I like the white on red EMP, maybe the green on black EMP could go?
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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #85 on: Tue, 24 June 2014, 18:20:01 »
I'm a fan of green on black, but I like the white on red EMP, maybe the green on black EMP could go?

It would need to apply to both sets. So, no EMP in Glow in the dark and black, no EMP for PCRed with white. I like the EMP...

I would change the blue and red to the same legend instead of mirror images, but I don't want to cheapen the look. I like that they are opposites.

Decisions...

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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #86 on: Tue, 24 June 2014, 18:27:18 »
Kill the cat. Bring him back in the second series.

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« Reply #87 on: Tue, 24 June 2014, 18:52:37 »
Kill the cat. Bring him back in the second series.

+1
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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #88 on: Tue, 24 June 2014, 19:02:45 »
Kill the cat. Bring him back in the second series.

Kill the cat. Bring him back in the second series.

+1

So harsh...well that was Matt3o's design. He was talking of doing a Matrix theme at some point anyway, maybe I will just let him retain the right to it and drop it from this set.
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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #89 on: Tue, 24 June 2014, 23:00:16 »
Okay. The set is done. It ain't much, but it should fetch a fair price even in the beginning. Think we can sell 50 of these bad boys?

On to the title of this GB. I am thinking 'Mainframe Dream Prison'
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« Reply #90 on: Wed, 25 June 2014, 03:14:57 »
I was thinking something like "The Way Out" or "Unplugged".

My reasoning here is that since we finally have rabbit, pills and EMP, it represents the the whole way. From idea (following the rabbit) to the decision (the pills), and finally to action (EMP). So I actually I like the first one "The way out" better, but it might be a bit too philosophical  :rolleyes:

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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #91 on: Wed, 25 June 2014, 08:40:17 »
Ok, I had to do it. I just did a quick mockup of a TKL Matrix set using the Matrix font at dafont.com.

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« Reply #92 on: Wed, 25 June 2014, 08:45:38 »
I totally need to work on a matrix layout...

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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #93 on: Wed, 25 June 2014, 08:50:57 »

I totally need to work on a matrix layout...

Yes. Yes you do.

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« Reply #94 on: Wed, 25 June 2014, 08:58:48 »

I totally need to work on a matrix layout...

Yes. Yes you do.

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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #95 on: Wed, 25 June 2014, 09:26:39 »
I was thinking something like "The Way Out" or "Unplugged".

My reasoning here is that since we finally have rabbit, pills and EMP, it represents the the whole way. From idea (following the rabbit) to the decision (the pills), and finally to action (EMP). So I actually I like the first one "The way out" better, but it might be a bit too philosophical  :rolleyes:

How about 'There's No Spoon: The Novelty Keycap Set for the Digitally Unplugged'
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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #96 on: Wed, 25 June 2014, 09:32:56 »
Simply "There is No Spoon" would be perfect.

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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #97 on: Wed, 25 June 2014, 09:34:52 »
Simply "There is No Spoon" would be perfect.

Do you think that people will get the reference right away?
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« Reply #98 on: Wed, 25 June 2014, 09:38:10 »
I find it a quite subtle title, especially because there's not actually a spoon key. I don't think the title alone would influence sales anyway.

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Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
« Reply #99 on: Wed, 25 June 2014, 09:39:41 »
I find it a quite subtle title, especially because there's not actually a spoon key. I don't think the title alone would influence sales anyway.

I need to come up with a cool banner like yours...did you do it yourself?
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