Author Topic: [IC]DSA Wolf Mark [GB closed] (Read 27836 times)

hoq · « **on:** Wed, 28 September 2016, 20:44:27 »

GB is runing:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85346.0

Massdrop Voting Page:
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/DSA-Wolf-Mark-for-Planck-Preonic-Atomic-60-Minila-FC660M-WKL-HHKB
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Hi guys, I'm Hoq. I'm pleased to introduce our newly designed DSA keycaps for some minimized keyboards.

It is called Wolf Mark.

We are a Planck/Preonic/Atomic keyboard Enthusiasts' group, and our members love the ortholinear keyboards very much.
In China We also have planck/preonic/atomic like keyboards called OCD40, 50, 60.

But,as you know, so less keycaps can match the Planck/Prionic/Atomic layout ,even some Group Buyes of the SA/DSA keycaps.They ignored it.

So, we designed a DSA/SA keycaps sets for ourselves especially for P/P/A keyboards.
And we also developed 2 kits for some popular minimized beyboards such as 60%(normal and WKL，HHKB layout), minila, and FC660M.

Maybe we are rare, but, we are willing to fullfill our needs all by ourselves hands....

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Totally 4 kits to be offered:
(1) base
(2) planck/preonic/atomic
(3) 60%/minila/fc660m
(4) wkl/ hhkb

1.base

2. Planck/Preonic/Atomic kit

3. 60%(normal), minila, and FC660M.

4.WKL/HHKB

the SP ABS color

below are some 2D renderings. Hope mini beyboards lovers enjoy them.

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Update:
2016-09-29: IC started.
2016-09-29: add a 1u key to WKL/HHKB kit; add HHKB 2d rendering.
2016-09-30: add a white 1u "\|" key to P/P/A kit; modifide the "delete" key in HHKB rendering.
2016-10-7: add 2 blanck white key to P/P/A kit; add a red enter key to 60/minila/fc660m kit.

simonyunhe · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed, 28 September 2016, 20:47:11 »

Love the idea!

MikeTheTiger · « **Reply #2 on:** Wed, 28 September 2016, 20:49:03 »

Looks nice. I like the colors and the theme.

KyleZhuang · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed, 28 September 2016, 20:59:07 »

GTR is a wonderful choice.

kenlee · « **Reply #4 on:** Wed, 28 September 2016, 22:24:49 »

Nice render nice colorway

mun2912 · « **Reply #5 on:** Wed, 28 September 2016, 23:21:03 »

why not SA row3?

tmk1207 · « **Reply #6 on:** Wed, 28 September 2016, 23:40:27 »

Greats, take my money.

hoq · « **Reply #7 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 00:18:50 »

Quote from: mun2912 on Wed, 28 September 2016, 23:21:03

why not SA row3?

Thank you guys for your appreciation.

As you know , SA production schdules are full and bursting...
According to the nearest SA Group Buys，their lead time will be 2017 JUNE，and prone to even more delay.

We can not wait that long, so we decide to organize DSA GB first.

jebbra · « **Reply #8 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 01:23:22 »

CAN I JOIN YOUR "SMALL" GROUP?! I really loves the color it's like Honeywell! But I already have Granite sooo uugh..

ANYWAY YOU GUYS HAVE A COOL GROUP!

Edit: I think you should add 2x 1u blanks to support Planck's Grid layout.

tmk1207 · « **Reply #9 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 01:27:36 »

Quote from: hoq on Thu, 29 September 2016, 00:18:50

Quote from: mun2912 on Wed, 28 September 2016, 23:21:03
why not SA row3?

Thank you guys for your appreciation.

As you know , SA production schdules are full and bursting...
According to the nearest SA Group Buys，their lead time will be 2017 JUNE，and prone to even more delay.

We can not wait that long, so we decide to organize DSA GB first.

What time you will open gb?

Tom_Kazansky · « **Reply #10 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 01:38:56 »

The color is very cool!

Though I think I need a 1.75u Fn and the HHKB layout needs 1.5u Delete/Backspace

hoq · « **Reply #11 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 02:21:50 »

Quote from: Tom_Kazansky on Thu, 29 September 2016, 01:38:56

The color is very cool!

Though I think I need a 1.75u Fn and the HHKB layout needs 1.5u Delete/Backspace

Thank you for your advice.
We will review our design soon to see what keys need to be added.

hoq · « **Reply #12 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 02:25:42 »

Quote from: tmk1207 on Thu, 29 September 2016, 01:27:36

Quote from: hoq on Thu, 29 September 2016, 00:18:50
Quote from: mun2912 on Wed, 28 September 2016, 23:21:03
why not SA row3?

Thank you guys for your appreciation.

As you know , SA production schdules are full and bursting...
According to the nearest SA Group Buys，their lead time will be 2017 JUNE，and prone to even more delay.

We can not wait that long, so we decide to organize DSA GB first.

What time you will open gb?

We are still waiting for SP’s further information. Also hope it can start as soon as possible.

jchan94 · « **Reply #13 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 02:34:20 »

I definitely think you should consider full compatibility for full boards.

hoq · « **Reply #14 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 02:38:36 »

Quote from: jebbra on Thu, 29 September 2016, 01:23:22

CAN I JOIN YOUR "SMALL" GROUP?! I really loves the color it's like Honeywell! But I already have Granite sooo uugh..

ANYWAY YOU GUYS HAVE A COOL GROUP!

Edit: I think you should add 2x 1u blanks to support Planck's Grid layout.

Infact, we are a small group of P/P/A lovers based in China.
We have a chatting room in QQ app.
If you are familiar with Chinese language.I'd like to invite you to join in.

JaccoW · « **Reply #15 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 02:40:37 »

Looks pretty cool.

jebbra · « **Reply #16 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 03:46:14 »

Dang I can't do chinese lol. Btw where I can get more info about the OCD? I love the fact that OCD40 using high rise case instead of low rise one like Planck.

repuls0r · « **Reply #17 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 05:02:59 »

Please include the options for 1800 layout. Definitely will join with 1800 layout

hoq · « **Reply #18 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 08:33:03 »

Quote from: repuls0r on Thu, 29 September 2016, 05:02:59

Please include the options for 1800 layout. Definitely will join with 1800 layout

basically, this keysets only support 60% keyboards and below.
If this DSA keyset GB goes successfully， we will consider to run SA and try to cover all the layouts.

Data · « **Reply #19 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 08:52:00 »

Dang, this is nice.

My Atomic might actually get some use with this.

hoq · « **Reply #20 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 08:54:15 »

Quote from: jchan94 on Thu, 29 September 2016, 02:34:20

I definitely think you should consider full compatibility for full boards.

Thank you for your advice, bro.
We really hope to fullfill more keyboards.

However, it is our first try, We want to make it consice and affortable for 60% keyboards lovers.
Moreover, it's hard for us to run a large-scope GB, unless we find a foreign partner.

But, we believe we can make more adequate preparation for the next run some day.

Geckt · « **Reply #21 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 09:42:38 »

Quote from: hoq on Thu, 29 September 2016, 08:54:15

Quote from: jchan94 on Thu, 29 September 2016, 02:34:20
I definitely think you should consider full compatibility for full boards.

Thank you for your advice, bro.
We really hope to fullfill more keyboards.

However, it is our first try, We want to make it consice and affortable for 60% keyboards lovers.
Moreover, it's hard for us to run a large-scope GB, unless we find a foreign partner.

But, we believe we can make more adequate preparation for the next run some day.

The colors aren't very striking but it's certainly a nice combination when every set now is just out there to blind you silly looking.
A very nice looking and "safe" for keyboards in most colors.

RAS actually looks most like chilli red imo.

arhetue · « **Reply #22 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 10:15:43 »

I quite like it. Simple but stark.

I would be in for an F660M set.

ideus · « **Reply #23 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 21:26:45 »

The 1u \| key is missing off the main set; also, you may want to split the base set from the novelties.

hoq · « **Reply #24 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 22:01:55 »

Quote from: ideus on Thu, 29 September 2016, 21:26:45

The 1u \| key is missing off the main set; also, you may want to split the base set from the novelties.

We have noticed that, we will mend it ASAP.
Thank you, bro!

hoq · « **Reply #25 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 22:27:30 »

Quote from: jebbra on Thu, 29 September 2016, 03:46:14

Dang I can't do chinese lol. Btw where I can get more info about the OCD? I love the fact that OCD40 using high rise case instead of low rise one like Planck.

OCD series have no web page introduction, you may only buy it in TAOBAO.com.
The developer of OCD PCBs is a just greduated college student.

Jedi · « **Reply #26 on:** Thu, 29 September 2016, 23:26:49 »

I love this color combination so much. I can't help but register my interest for my planck board. Great, great job going with this classy classical colorway.

Judge_Mental · « **Reply #27 on:** Fri, 30 September 2016, 08:44:49 »

I love it! This just begs for a Wild Hunt/Witcher key!

cpeterson19 · « **Reply #28 on:** Fri, 30 September 2016, 08:47:36 »

Dude great work, the planck version is simply amazing i hope this makes it to GB i would love a set...or 2

arhetue · « **Reply #29 on:** Fri, 30 September 2016, 09:17:43 »

Quote from: cpeterson19 on Fri, 30 September 2016, 08:47:36

Dude great work, the planck version is simply amazing i hope this makes it to GB i would love a set...or 2

Oh wow yes it does. And maybe GoT house crest novelties? Stark and Targaryen - white wolf on gray, red dragon on black.

kaiwwww · « **Reply #30 on:** Sun, 02 October 2016, 13:11:51 »

looks cool

maximm · « **Reply #31 on:** Sun, 02 October 2016, 13:59:52 »

Looks nice!
Why is the space bar in the base kit?
It's only if use in the 60% kit

breckstar · « **Reply #32 on:** Sun, 02 October 2016, 22:43:43 »

Looks awesome.

drakeonyou · « **Reply #33 on:** Sun, 02 October 2016, 23:16:58 »

I'm up for a 60% set.

Can we have at least a RAS Enter?

hoq · « **Reply #34 on:** Mon, 03 October 2016, 09:05:55 »

Quote from: maximm on Sun, 02 October 2016, 13:59:52

Looks nice!
Why is the space bar in the base kit?
It's only if use in the 60% kit

Atomic keyboard also needs a 6.25 spacebar.
so we put it in the base kit.

hoq · « **Reply #35 on:** Mon, 03 October 2016, 09:21:41 »

Quote from: drakeonyou on Sun, 02 October 2016, 23:16:58

I'm up for a 60% set.

Can we have at least a RAS Enter?

If we add a 2.25u red enter key,
it will add some cost, and break the balance of color matching in some beyboards layout, such as minila , FC660，and HHKB.

If we get success this time. maybe we will consider a full layout design, we can make more novolties and kits to fullfill more users.

Hypocaffeinic · « **Reply #36 on:** Mon, 03 October 2016, 16:58:23 »

Nice set, and great concept to prioritise compatibility with Planck and other funny little 40% boards. I'm in for whatever will suit my Minivan!

drakeonyou · « **Reply #37 on:** Mon, 03 October 2016, 19:20:00 »

Quote from: hoq on Mon, 03 October 2016, 09:21:41

Quote from: drakeonyou on Sun, 02 October 2016, 23:16:58
I'm up for a 60% set.

Can we have at least a RAS Enter?
If we add a 2.25u red enter key,
it will add some cost, and break the balance of color matching in some beyboards layout, such as minila , FC660，and HHKB.

If we get success this time. maybe we will consider a full layout design, we can make more novolties and kits to fullfill more users.

That's fine by me. I'm still interested.

Is this sculpted?

MikeTheTiger · « **Reply #38 on:** Tue, 04 October 2016, 03:00:09 »

Quote from: drakeonyou on Mon, 03 October 2016, 19:20:00

Quote from: hoq on Mon, 03 October 2016, 09:21:41
Quote from: drakeonyou on Sun, 02 October 2016, 23:16:58
I'm up for a 60% set.

Can we have at least a RAS Enter?
If we add a 2.25u red enter key,
it will add some cost, and break the balance of color matching in some beyboards layout, such as minila , FC660，and HHKB.

If we get success this time. maybe we will consider a full layout design, we can make more novolties and kits to fullfill more users.

That's fine by me. I'm still interested.

Is this sculpted?

DSA is a uniform profile.

drakeonyou · « **Reply #39 on:** Tue, 04 October 2016, 05:50:51 »

Oh, I didn't notice that this is just for DSA. I just saw that this is a DSA/SA set based on the 1st post at the time of me reading.

priyadi · « **Reply #40 on:** Tue, 04 October 2016, 09:19:49 »

My suggestions:

A second set of Ctrl-Super-AltGr-Menu keys in P/P/A kit (with AltGr instead of Alt)
Alt layout support (colemak, dvorak, workman). For DSA, simply add regular FJ & deep dish HUNT
2 blanks in P/P/A kit for grid layout users

ideus · « **Reply #41 on:** Tue, 04 October 2016, 09:39:17 »

Some of the best key sets manufactured, recently, include a six units space bar that may add to the 18xx and HHKB layouts some authenticity. You may want to explore the option to include one if SP has the molds to build it with centered and off centered stems. It may expand the coverage of the set and attract a bit more demand; while, the six unit space bar is not that popular yet, getting it later, in the same exact color may be unfeasible.

Mophus · « **Reply #42 on:** Wed, 05 October 2016, 23:34:31 »

I like it! I also second the idea of 2 blanks for grid layout on Planck, Preonic, and Atomic.

gadzkun · « **Reply #43 on:** Thu, 06 October 2016, 00:04:00 »

im in for minila set

mrboovn · « **Reply #44 on:** Thu, 06 October 2016, 00:27:02 »

I've been waiting for this colorway in DSA for too long

iFreilicht · « **Reply #45 on:** Thu, 06 October 2016, 03:41:58 »

Man this set is looking so good but I'd have to buy all four kits to get the keys I need (HHKB just for 1.5u Delete, P/P/A just for white "\|") and then I'd still have two keys reading "Delete" right next to one another :/

A red enter for normal boards could look pretty cool as well, I would imagine.

hoq · « **Reply #46 on:** Fri, 07 October 2016, 09:11:18 »

Guys, thank you so much about your feedbacks . We have got some improvement about this groupbuy.

1. We have made a Massdrop voting page, you can chose the kits you love. We are likely to go with MD.
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/DSA-Wolf-Mark-for-Planck-Preonic-Atomic-60-Minila-FC660M-WKL-HHKB

2, Infact we have got the quotation from SP, and the price seems to be accceptable at MOQ100， 150，200。
If under 100 sets ,the price is too high.

3, according to some feedbacks ,we added some keys, and will upload the new pics soon.

bbmathlvr · « **Reply #47 on:** Fri, 07 October 2016, 12:58:40 »

The only problem here is that it's another amazing DSA set that I will have to choose between!

kenshinjeff · « **Reply #48 on:** Fri, 07 October 2016, 19:08:18 »

Very nice colours, I'll be buying one : D

hoq · « **Reply #49 on:** Sun, 09 October 2016, 02:35:06 »

Quote from: drakeonyou on Sun, 02 October 2016, 23:16:58

I'm up for a 60% set.

Can we have at least a RAS Enter?

added！

gadzkun · « **Reply #50 on:** Sun, 09 October 2016, 02:56:18 »

Quote from: hoq on Sun, 09 October 2016, 02:35:06

Quote from: drakeonyou on Sun, 02 October 2016, 23:16:58
I'm up for a 60% set.

Can we have at least a RAS Enter?

added！

ras spacebar for every set please xD

drakeonyou · « **Reply #51 on:** Sun, 09 October 2016, 03:02:15 »

Quote from: hoq on Sun, 09 October 2016, 02:35:06

Quote from: drakeonyou on Sun, 02 October 2016, 23:16:58
I'm up for a 60% set.

Can we have at least a RAS Enter?

added！

YAY!

pomk · « **Reply #52 on:** Sun, 09 October 2016, 03:43:12 »

Can you add international (norde) kit? Same keys as in mitos goodspeed kit of the same name. First drop point set to max 25.

MikeTheTiger · « **Reply #53 on:** Sun, 09 October 2016, 04:02:41 »

Quote from: hoq on Fri, 07 October 2016, 09:11:18

Guys, thank you so much about your feedbacks . We have got some improvement about this groupbuy.

1. We have made a Massdrop voting page, you can chose the kits you love. We are likely to go with MD.
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/DSA-Wolf-Mark-for-Planck-Preonic-Atomic-60-Minila-FC660M-WKL-HHKB

2, Infact we have got the quotation from SP, and the price seems to be accceptable at MOQ100， 150，200。
If under 100 sets ,the price is too high.

3, according to some feedbacks ,we added some keys, and will upload the new pics soon.

Voted. Don't care too much for DSA, but I love this colorway. Great job!!

arhetue · « **Reply #54 on:** Sun, 09 October 2016, 13:44:36 »

Any chance for 1 or 2 paw prints 1u in RAS? I am def down for a base + 60%. I'd be more enthusiastic about SA or DCS, but I like DSA on the 60% boards.

iFreilicht · « **Reply #55 on:** Sun, 09 October 2016, 15:09:02 »

Just noticed a small mistake in the HHKB rendering: There should be CTRL where the CAPS LOCK key is.

hoq · « **Reply #56 on:** Sun, 16 October 2016, 07:45:48 »

some 3d renderings updated.

ideus · « **Reply #57 on:** Sun, 16 October 2016, 07:47:56 »

That is a cute board; however, sixty boards are my minimum.

sitase · « **Reply #58 on:** Mon, 17 October 2016, 05:13:08 »

You should make a "hyper" key for the p/p/a set.

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sitase · « **Reply #59 on:** Mon, 17 October 2016, 05:16:01 »

Make sure to have a blank alphas child set.

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iFreilicht · « **Reply #60 on:** Wed, 19 October 2016, 16:42:53 »

Quote from: sitase on Mon, 17 October 2016, 05:16:01

Make sure to have a blank alphas child set.

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Why? You can buy blank DSA keys right now on PMK, no need to include them in the drop.

sitase · « **Reply #61 on:** Thu, 20 October 2016, 01:36:58 »

Quote from: iFreilicht on Wed, 19 October 2016, 16:42:53

Quote from: sitase on Mon, 17 October 2016, 05:16:01
Make sure to have a blank alphas child set.

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Why? You can buy blank DSA keys right now on PMK, no need to include them in the drop.

Not in all colours. So there is a need to make sure there are matching blanks.

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menuhin · « **Reply #62 on:** Thu, 20 October 2016, 01:47:07 »

Really nice clean design!

waqar · « **Reply #63 on:** Thu, 20 October 2016, 13:08:16 »

Possible to add icon modifiers instead of text?

arhetue · « **Reply #64 on:** Thu, 20 October 2016, 15:18:40 »

Quote from: waqar on Thu, 20 October 2016, 13:08:16

Possible to add icon modifiers instead of text?

+1 for this!

Data · « **Reply #65 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 08:18:41 »

Hmm, I thought something was off.

One of the Atomic layouts allows for 1.25u bottom row keys with the 2u space bar -- 8 of them actually. Have you considered supporting that layout?

ideus · « **Reply #66 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:31:44 »

Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 08:18:41

Hmm, I thought something was off.

One of the Atomic layouts allows for 1.25u bottom row keys with the 2u space bar -- 8 of them actually. Have you considered supporting that layout?

Show Image

Ortho-staggered??

Data · « **Reply #67 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:44:06 »

Quote from: ideus on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:31:44

Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 08:18:41
Hmm, I thought something was off.

One of the Atomic layouts allows for 1.25u bottom row keys with the 2u space bar -- 8 of them actually. Have you considered supporting that layout?

Show Image

Ortho-staggered??

Show Image

It's not staggered. It's symmetrical. Look at the space bar.

ideus · « **Reply #68 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:55:14 »

Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:44:06

Quote from: ideus on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:31:44
Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 08:18:41
Hmm, I thought something was off.

One of the Atomic layouts allows for 1.25u bottom row keys with the 2u space bar -- 8 of them actually. Have you considered supporting that layout?

Show Image

Ortho-staggered??

Show Image

It's not staggered. It's symmetrical. Look at the space bar.

It is left justified.

hoq · « **Reply #69 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 10:11:51 »

Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 08:18:41

Hmm, I thought something was off.

One of the Atomic layouts allows for 1.25u bottom row keys with the 2u space bar -- 8 of them actually. Have you considered supporting that layout?

Show Image

If you would like to buy a 60%/minila/FC660M kit more,
I think you can get totally 14 1.25u keycaps. :)

Data · « **Reply #70 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 10:36:53 »

Quote from: hoq on Fri, 21 October 2016, 10:11:51

Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 08:18:41
Hmm, I thought something was off.

One of the Atomic layouts allows for 1.25u bottom row keys with the 2u space bar -- 8 of them actually. Have you considered supporting that layout?

Show Image

If you would like to buy a 60%/minila/FC660M kit more,
I think you can get totally 14 1.25u keycaps. :)

Meh.

hoq · « **Reply #71 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 10:55:35 »

Hi Guys
The group buy has been started, it is running by my friend wangbwhz.

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menuhin · « **Reply #72 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 11:13:41 »

Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:44:06

Quote from: ideus on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:31:44
Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 08:18:41
Hmm, I thought something was off.

One of the Atomic layouts allows for 1.25u bottom row keys with the 2u space bar -- 8 of them actually. Have you considered supporting that layout?

Show Image

Ortho-staggered??

Show Image

It's not staggered. It's symmetrical. Look at the space bar.

One thing that bothers me about the design of the last release of Atomic is that, compared to Planck which is dead symmetrical, Atomic starts to squeeze the user towards the left like almost all other keyboards with such tendency starting from the 60% keyboard up to the full-size keyboard where the user is mostly squeezed typing on the left corner of the keyboard.

Why can't the Atomic be deisgned as 14 grid or 16 grid, so that everything can really be dead-centered?
It's an ortholinear anyways.

waqar · « **Reply #73 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 11:20:19 »

Quote from: hoq on Fri, 21 October 2016, 10:55:35

Hi Guys
The group buy has been started, it is running by my friend wangbwhz.

Link?

Data · « **Reply #74 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 12:18:20 »

Quote from: menuhin on Fri, 21 October 2016, 11:13:41

Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:44:06
Quote from: ideus on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:31:44
Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 08:18:41
Hmm, I thought something was off.

One of the Atomic layouts allows for 1.25u bottom row keys with the 2u space bar -- 8 of them actually. Have you considered supporting that layout?

Show Image

Ortho-staggered??

Show Image

It's not staggered. It's symmetrical. Look at the space bar.

One thing that bothers me about the design of the last release of Atomic is that, compared to Planck which is dead symmetrical, Atomic starts to squeeze the user towards the left like almost all other keyboards with such tendency starting from the 60% keyboard up to the full-size keyboard where the user is mostly squeezed typing on the left corner of the keyboard.

Why can't the Atomic be deisgned as 14 grid or 16 grid, so that everything can really be dead-centered?
It's an ortholinear anyways.

Yeah, I kind of agree. It's not perfect. Compromises had to be made. /shrug

Edit: I could probably make a 16x5 symmetric grid work.

menuhin · « **Reply #75 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 12:39:15 »

Oh I just found out it's only ABS..!
If I buy this set, I'll not dare to use it because I don't want it to develop the dirty-oily looking 'shine' like those on used ABS caps.
It'll just sit in the storage.

I really want this set to be PBT.

p.s. And I really hope the next release of Atom have 14 or 16 columns.

hoq · « **Reply #76 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 23:01:25 »

Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 12:18:20

Quote from: menuhin on Fri, 21 October 2016, 11:13:41
Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:44:06
Quote from: ideus on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:31:44
Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 08:18:41
Hmm, I thought something was off.

One of the Atomic layouts allows for 1.25u bottom row keys with the 2u space bar -- 8 of them actually. Have you considered supporting that layout?

Show Image

Ortho-staggered??

Show Image

It's not staggered. It's symmetrical. Look at the space bar.

One thing that bothers me about the design of the last release of Atomic is that, compared to Planck which is dead symmetrical, Atomic starts to squeeze the user towards the left like almost all other keyboards with such tendency starting from the 60% keyboard up to the full-size keyboard where the user is mostly squeezed typing on the left corner of the keyboard.

Why can't the Atomic be deisgned as 14 grid or 16 grid, so that everything can really be dead-centered?
It's an ortholinear anyways.

Yeah, I kind of agree. It's not perfect. Compromises had to be made. /shrug

Edit: I could probably make a 16x5 symmetric grid work.
Show Image

wow. This layout is so crazy. I like the left part of your layout, but the right Shift is hard to hit correctly if it's too small.
that's according to my expierence.

hoq · « **Reply #77 on:** Fri, 21 October 2016, 23:04:42 »

Quote from: menuhin on Fri, 21 October 2016, 12:39:15

Oh I just found out it's only ABS..!
If I buy this set, I'll not dare to use it because I don't want it to develop the dirty-oily looking 'shine' like those on used ABS caps.
It'll just sit in the storage.

I really want this set to be PBT.

p.s. And I really hope the next release of Atom have 14 or 16 columns.

the surface of DSA keycaps are frosted, that's not easy become oily looking than SA.

gadzkun · « **Reply #78 on:** Sat, 22 October 2016, 00:32:07 »

Quote from: hoq on Fri, 21 October 2016, 10:55:35

Hi Guys
The group buy has been started, it is running by my friend wangbwhz.

从我的 iPhone 发送，使用 Tapatalk

where it would running? GH or somewhere? link please

hoq · « **Reply #79 on:** Sat, 22 October 2016, 00:55:37 »

Quote from: gadzkun on Sat, 22 October 2016, 00:32:07

Quote from: hoq on Fri, 21 October 2016, 10:55:35
Hi Guys
The group buy has been started, it is running by my friend wangbwhz.

从我的 iPhone 发送，使用 Tapatalk

where it would running? GH or somewhere? link please

GH.
My friend applied the GB thread，just need to wait a moment！

从我的 iPhone 发送，使用 Tapatalk

gadzkun · « **Reply #80 on:** Sat, 22 October 2016, 01:20:58 »

Quote from: hoq on Sat, 22 October 2016, 00:55:37

Quote from: gadzkun on Sat, 22 October 2016, 00:32:07
Quote from: hoq on Fri, 21 October 2016, 10:55:35
Hi Guys
The group buy has been started, it is running by my friend wangbwhz.

从我的 iPhone 发送，使用 Tapatalk

where it would running? GH or somewhere? link please

GH.
My friend applied the GB thread，just need to wait a moment！

从我的 iPhone 发送，使用 Tapatalk

hypuuuuuuu

sitase · « **Reply #81 on:** Sat, 22 October 2016, 13:48:21 »

Would it be possible to order extra blanks?

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hoq · « **Reply #82 on:** Tue, 01 November 2016, 01:42:15 »

Thank you for your guys supports, the GB closed today.
We will place a formal order to SP and confirm precise production and delievery schedule.

============================
GB MOQ Count:
BaseSet 131
Planck/preonic/atomic 50
60%/minila/fc660m 101
Wkl/ hhkb 52
*Wolf team makes up the shortage quantity of planck kit

Evilocity · « **Reply #83 on:** Thu, 28 September 2017, 19:15:18 »

Quote from: hoq on Tue, 01 November 2016, 01:42:15

Thank you for your guys supports, the GB closed today.
We will place a formal order to SP and confirm precise production and delievery schedule.

============================
GB MOQ Count:
BaseSet 131
Planck/preonic/atomic 50
60%/minila/fc660m 101
Wkl/ hhkb 52
*Wolf team makes up the shortage quantity of planck kit

Hi hoq! Would you ever run Wolfmark again but in SA? I LOVE the colors on this set.

hoq · « **Reply #84 on:** Thu, 28 September 2017, 21:38:21 »

Quote from: Evilocity on Thu, 28 September 2017, 19:15:18

Quote from: hoq on Tue, 01 November 2016, 01:42:15
Thank you for your guys supports, the GB closed today.
We will place a formal order to SP and confirm precise production and delievery schedule.

============================
GB MOQ Count:
BaseSet 131
Planck/preonic/atomic 50
60%/minila/fc660m 101
Wkl/ hhkb 52
*Wolf team makes up the shortage quantity of planck kit

Hi hoq! Would you ever run Wolfmark again but in SA? I LOVE the colors on this set.

I considered about running a SA version of this keyset, but due to the SA production issue, maybe we need to wait for a quite long time.

Evilocity · « **Reply #85 on:** Fri, 29 September 2017, 05:40:23 »

Quote from: hoq on Thu, 28 September 2017, 21:38:21

Quote from: Evilocity on Thu, 28 September 2017, 19:15:18
Quote from: hoq on Tue, 01 November 2016, 01:42:15
Thank you for your guys supports, the GB closed today.
We will place a formal order to SP and confirm precise production and delievery schedule.

============================
GB MOQ Count:
BaseSet 131
Planck/preonic/atomic 50
60%/minila/fc660m 101
Wkl/ hhkb 52
*Wolf team makes up the shortage quantity of planck kit

Hi hoq! Would you ever run Wolfmark again but in SA? I LOVE the colors on this set.

I considered about running a SA version of this keyset, but due to the SA production issue, maybe we need to wait for a quite long time.

Have you considered Maxkey? It's not as long as SP!

hoq · « **Reply #86 on:** Sat, 30 September 2017, 10:32:42 »

Quote from: Evilocity on Fri, 29 September 2017, 05:40:23

Quote from: hoq on Thu, 28 September 2017, 21:38:21
Quote from: Evilocity on Thu, 28 September 2017, 19:15:18
Quote from: hoq on Tue, 01 November 2016, 01:42:15
Thank you for your guys supports, the GB closed today.
We will place a formal order to SP and confirm precise production and delievery schedule.

============================
GB MOQ Count:
BaseSet 131
Planck/preonic/atomic 50
60%/minila/fc660m 101
Wkl/ hhkb 52
*Wolf team makes up the shortage quantity of planck kit

Hi hoq! Would you ever run Wolfmark again but in SA? I LOVE the colors on this set.

I considered about running a SA version of this keyset, but due to the SA production issue, maybe we need to wait for a quite long time.

Have you considered Maxkey? It's not as long as SP!

It's hard to say, we need to take a long time.

rundeploy · « **Reply #87 on:** Fri, 17 November 2017, 15:58:13 »

When this is gonna run again ? I need this.

hoq · « **Reply #88 on:** Sun, 19 November 2017, 08:10:51 »

Quote from: rundeploy on Fri, 17 November 2017, 15:58:13

When this is gonna run again ? I need this.

Sorry we have no plan recently, maybe we will make a SA version someday.

voodoo6k · « **Reply #89 on:** Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:33:59 »

Hi,

Forgive me for bumping this thread, but I have a quick question about this set:

How do the light grey alphas look in reality? From most photos I have seen, they look kind of white...

Thanks

xondat · « **Reply #90 on:** Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:35:08 »

Quote from: voodoo5 on Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:33:59

Hi,

Forgive me for bumping this thread, but I have a quick question about this set:

How do the light grey alphas look in reality? From most photos I have seen, they look kind of white...

Thanks

You'd have better luck in the GB thread if the creator doesn't see this.

kokokoy · « **Reply #91 on:** Wed, 28 March 2018, 21:24:52 »

Not grey its more of an off white.

voodoo6k · « **Reply #92 on:** Wed, 28 March 2018, 21:31:26 »

Quote from: kokokoy on Wed, 28 March 2018, 21:24:52

Not grey its more of an off white.

If you look at this album, obviously the white balance is all over the place... I would guess the first photo is most accurate?

hoq · « **Reply #93 on:** Wed, 28 March 2018, 21:36:56 »

Quote from: voodoo5 on Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:33:59

Hi,

Forgive me for bumping this thread, but I have a quick question about this set:

How do the light grey alphas look in reality? From most photos I have seen, they look kind of white...

Thanks

Alphas look very white than grey.
You can refer to the GB thread as below:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85346.msg2479531#msg2479531

Sorry, I have to lockt this thread to not break the rule of this forum.

)

hoq · « **Reply #94 on:** Wed, 28 March 2018, 21:39:42 »

Quote from: hoq on Wed, 28 March 2018, 21:36:56

Quote from: voodoo5 on Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:33:59
Hi,

Forgive me for bumping this thread, but I have a quick question about this set:

How do the light grey alphas look in reality? From most photos I have seen, they look kind of white...

Thanks

Alphas look very white than grey.
You can refer to the GB thread as below:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85346.msg2479531#msg2479531

Sorry, I have to lock this thread to not break the rule of this forum. )

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