Author Topic: [IC] Minitomic - Update april 17th (happening pretty soon!) (Read 44046 times)

. · « **on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 11:04:20 »

The Minitomic is a 45% staggered keyboard which I've been working on over the last few months.
Before getting a prototype made and opening a group buy, I'd like to get your feedback on the design.

Some information:
- Tray mounted design with 8 mounting points
- High profile one piece anodized aluminium case
- QMK compatible PCB
- Brass or aluminium 1.5mm plate
- European switch spacing^tm (19mm)
- USB-C Connector
- Angle of 5 degrees
- Capslock indicator under tab key
- Reset button under left shift key
- Fully designed by me

Anodization colors are to be determined, but will likely include black, silver and dark gray.
The price will hopefully be around 100-150 USD for a kit which includes a case, pcb and plate.

Supported layouts
These are the supported layouts right now, but let me know if you think it's missing something! KLE link

More renders

Thanks to janglad for the render at the top of this post

The keyset shown is DSA Just Beige by PrimeKB.

UPDATE 23/03/19
The prototype from china is here! It's looking really good

Click the picture for the album.

pngu · « **Reply #1 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 11:05:18 »

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #2 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 11:07:19 »

I like it & that’s a great price!

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duckboi · « **Reply #3 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 11:08:49 »

19mm spacing will have some keycaps scratch each other, just look at the E6-V2.
There's a reason why that standard is in place.

westfoxtrot · « **Reply #4 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 11:11:10 »

in for one

pngu · « **Reply #5 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 11:13:29 »

Quote from: duckboi on Thu, 25 October 2018, 11:08:49

19mm spacing will have some keycaps scratch each other, just look at the E6-V2.
There's a reason why that standard is in place.

That seems like an issue specific to that board. All OLKB stuff has 19mm spacing and I personally had a prototype manufactured recently that didn't have any issue like that, too.

Edit: Not to mention the 356mini, but those are tolerances that aren't easily achieved in manufacture.

ChrisSwires · « **Reply #6 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 11:23:26 »

45%? Staggered? 7u space option?

Guess I'll maybe be interested perhaps.

nasp · « **Reply #7 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 12:35:29 »

Quote from: ChrisSwires on Thu, 25 October 2018, 11:23:26

Guess I'll maybe be interested perhaps.

That has to be the most unhelpful and indecisive "interest" in a project!

MikeTheTiger · « **Reply #8 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 12:43:07 »

Color me interested. Looks great!!

ChrisSwires · « **Reply #9 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 12:52:21 »

Quote from: nasp on Thu, 25 October 2018, 12:35:29

Quote from: ChrisSwires on Thu, 25 October 2018, 11:23:26

Guess I'll maybe be interested perhaps.

That has to be the most unhelpful and indecisive "interest" in a project!

Haha, he knows I'm in. I have a tendency to buy every staggered 40. An unfortunate consequence of being me.

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long_qt_pie · « **Reply #10 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 12:58:03 »

Nice price point and I like the layout. Only suggestion would be in one of the split space layouts, to swap the shift and left most FN to have the FN between the two “spaces”

Haaaaaandrew · « **Reply #11 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 14:19:00 »

Looks neat, interested if I have money when it happens. Would love to see the 7u option be 1.5/1.5/7/1.5/1.5 for that sweet, sweet symmetry and to me feels right to use 1.5s with 7u

. · « **Reply #12 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 15:46:36 »

Thanks for the feedback so far! I'm glad so many of you like it

I've seen some interest in USB C though, is that something you guys want? I can definitely change that in the design.

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #13 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 16:14:36 »

Quote from: ChrisSwires on Thu, 25 October 2018, 12:52:21

Quote from: nasp on Thu, 25 October 2018, 12:35:29
Quote from: ChrisSwires on Thu, 25 October 2018, 11:23:26

Guess I'll maybe be interested perhaps.

That has to be the most unhelpful and indecisive "interest" in a project!
Haha, he knows I'm in. I have a tendency to buy every staggered 40. An unfortunate consequence of being me.

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Chris, believe I will be joining too!!!

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Draic · « **Reply #14 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 17:07:32 »

Quote from: maartenwut on Thu, 25 October 2018, 15:46:36

I've seen some interest in USB C though, is that something you guys want? I can definitely change that in the design.

Remember that only changing the connector will only work for USB-C to A but extra care is needed to ensure USB C to C works

. · « **Reply #15 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 17:15:45 »

Quote from: Draic on Thu, 25 October 2018, 17:07:32

Quote from: maartenwut on Thu, 25 October 2018, 15:46:36
I've seen some interest in USB C though, is that something you guys want? I can definitely change that in the design.

Remember that only changing the connector will only work for USB-C to A but extra care is needed to ensure USB C to C works

Yes, I am aware that I need to add some resistors

puddingfarmer · « **Reply #16 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 17:16:51 »

I am breaking my long tradition of lurking-only to voice my support.

MikeTheTiger · « **Reply #17 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 19:26:47 »

I second USB C

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #18 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 19:53:07 »

Quote from: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 25 October 2018, 19:26:47

I second USB C

10-4, me too

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MikeTheTiger · « **Reply #19 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 20:00:19 »

USB C to A support is fine for a keyboard.

Parva Ovis · « **Reply #20 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 23:03:09 »

USB C, please.

Draic · « **Reply #21 on:** Thu, 25 October 2018, 23:30:36 »

Quote from: long_qt_pie on Thu, 25 October 2018, 12:58:03

Nice price point and I like the layout. Only suggestion would be in one of the split space layouts, to swap the shift and left most FN to have the FN between the two “spaces”

good idea. The left half of the split spacebar is quite short and far the the right (compared with the normal spacebars). Swapping positions with FN would definitely move it's position to a more convenient location.

. · « **Reply #22 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 03:47:58 »

Quote from: Draic on Thu, 25 October 2018, 23:30:36

Quote from: long_qt_pie on Thu, 25 October 2018, 12:58:03
Nice price point and I like the layout. Only suggestion would be in one of the split space layouts, to swap the shift and left most FN to have the FN between the two “spaces”
good idea. The left half of the split spacebar is quite short and far the the right (compared with the normal spacebars). Swapping positions with FN would definitely move it's position to a more convenient location.

I put them where they are because the fn keys are closer to the thumbs, which is nice. I will also do USB-C

RivieraS · « **Reply #23 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 04:13:15 »

cant waitttttt

Draic · « **Reply #24 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 06:02:52 »

Quote from: maartenwut on Fri, 26 October 2018, 03:47:58

Quote from: Draic on Thu, 25 October 2018, 23:30:36
Quote from: long_qt_pie on Thu, 25 October 2018, 12:58:03
Nice price point and I like the layout. Only suggestion would be in one of the split space layouts, to swap the shift and left most FN to have the FN between the two “spaces”
good idea. The left half of the split spacebar is quite short and far the the right (compared with the normal spacebars). Swapping positions with FN would definitely move it's position to a more convenient location.
I put them where they are because the fn keys are closer to the thumbs, which is nice. I will also do USB-C

Ye now having a keyboard in front of me, I agree. Position is fine, it looked just a bit off for me on the render. Still more layout options is always nice :3

PaultheSloth · « **Reply #25 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 08:37:04 »

I'm in for one, any limit on units?

. · « **Reply #26 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 09:04:01 »

Quote from: PaultheSloth on Fri, 26 October 2018, 08:37:04

I'm in for one, any limit on units?

Hopefully not

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #27 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 09:42:30 »

Quote from: puddingfarmer on Thu, 25 October 2018, 17:16:51

I am breaking my long tradition of lurking-only to voice my support.

Great, this will make up for the standard layout JD45 that I sold a while back & I’m glad you will be offering more than just black & silver cases!!!!

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RivieraS · « **Reply #28 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 10:16:39 »

Hi Leader，I really want this

RivieraS · « **Reply #29 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 10:25:11 »

1、minila layout
2、2.25，2.75 spaces
3、left side 1.25，1.25，1.25，increase availability, fault-tolerance
4、right side 1，1，1，1.25，

RivieraS · « **Reply #30 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 10:30:56 »

And add brass weight versions please

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #31 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 10:44:09 »

Quote from: RivieraS on Fri, 26 October 2018, 10:25:11

1、minila layout
2、2.25，2.75 spaces
3、left side 1.25，1.25，1.25，including availability, fault-tolerance
4、right side 1，1，1，1.25，

Believe I saw some layouts that can help
@ work, so please give me an hour or two

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. · « **Reply #32 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 10:53:46 »

Quote from: RivieraS on Fri, 26 October 2018, 10:16:39

Hi Leader，I really want this

I have added it but needed to move the reset button to the left shift. Thanks for the suggestion

. · « **Reply #33 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 10:59:42 »

Quote from: RivieraS on Fri, 26 October 2018, 10:30:56

And add brass weight versions please

I will not do that because it will make the price higher, and this board is meant to be affordable.

RivieraS · « **Reply #34 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:10:02 »

what about electrophoresis white？

RivieraS · « **Reply #35 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:24:56 »

I would like increase badge or logo design

. · « **Reply #36 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:29:29 »

Quote from: RivieraS on Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:24:56

I would like increase badge or logo design

What do you mean by 'increase'?

RivieraS · « **Reply #37 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:38:51 »

Quote from: maartenwut on Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:29:29

Quote from: RivieraS on Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:24:56
I would like increase badge or logo design
What do you mean by 'increase'?

I hope the keyboard have a badge or nametag

dilbertprogrammer · « **Reply #38 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:41:35 »

Looks great! Count me in!

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #39 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:59:07 »

maartenwut
PM’ed you, not sure if some of what was sent can increase the price you are going for, but hope it helps

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. · « **Reply #40 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 12:22:03 »

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:59:07

maartenwut
PM’ed you, not sure if some of what was sent can increase the price you are going for, but hope it helps

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It's unlikely it will increase the price, but I think that's a bit much of compatibility. I don't want to turn it into swiss cheese and I'm sorry I can't cover every layout.

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #41 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 12:32:48 »

Quote from: maartenwut on Fri, 26 October 2018, 12:22:03

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:59:07
maartenwut
PM’ed you, not sure if some of what was sent can increase the price you are going for, but hope it helps

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It's unlikely it will increase the price, but I think that's a bit much of compatibility. I don't want to turn it into swiss cheese and I'm sorry I can't cover every layout.

Understood, figured it would help if had any other layout ideas.

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child · « **Reply #42 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 14:50:39 »

Quote from: Draic on Thu, 25 October 2018, 23:30:36

Quote from: long_qt_pie on Thu, 25 October 2018, 12:58:03
Nice price point and I like the layout. Only suggestion would be in one of the split space layouts, to swap the shift and left most FN to have the FN between the two “spaces”
good idea. The left half of the split spacebar is quite short and far the the right (compared with the normal spacebars). Swapping positions with FN would definitely move it's position to a more convenient location.

I'm strongly against the idea of putting FN in the middle. I love split space, but small key in the middle forces a very unnatural wrist movement. When I had such a layout (DZ60 with 2.25, 1.25, 2.75 split space) it was so bad the middle key was basically unused.

. · « **Reply #43 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 14:55:09 »

Alright, I finished routing the PCB today. Do note that this is not final

Front

Back

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #44 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 15:15:10 »

Quote from: maartenwut on Fri, 26 October 2018, 14:55:09

Alright, I finished routing the PCB today. Do note that this is not final

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Nice, I like it!

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. · « **Reply #45 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 15:28:44 »

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Fri, 26 October 2018, 15:15:10

Quote from: maartenwut on Fri, 26 October 2018, 14:55:09
Alright, I finished routing the PCB today. Do note that this is not final

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Nice, I like it!

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I'll probably slap some silkscreen art on it too, have to decide what exactly

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #46 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 16:53:35 »

Quote from: maartenwut on Fri, 26 October 2018, 15:28:44

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Fri, 26 October 2018, 15:15:10
Quote from: maartenwut on Fri, 26 October 2018, 14:55:09
Alright, I finished routing the PCB today. Do note that this is not final

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Nice, I like it!

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I'll probably slap some silkscreen art on it too, have to decide what exactly

Great, can you provide us w/ your silkscreen ideas or do we have to wait & see?

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. · « **Reply #47 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 17:01:27 »

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Fri, 26 October 2018, 16:53:35

Quote from: maartenwut on Fri, 26 October 2018, 15:28:44
Quote from: William_S_Jones on Fri, 26 October 2018, 15:15:10
Quote from: maartenwut on Fri, 26 October 2018, 14:55:09
Alright, I finished routing the PCB today. Do note that this is not final

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Nice, I like it!

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I'll probably slap some silkscreen art on it too, have to decide what exactly
Great, can you provide us w/ your silkscreen ideas or do we have to wait & see?

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I got nothing yet unfortunately. Suggestions are welcome

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #48 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 17:20:18 »

What theme do you want?

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William_S_Jones · « **Reply #49 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 18:19:03 »

Believe this is the best bet, an image of the available layouts on the PCB

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William_S_Jones · « **Reply #50 on:** Fri, 26 October 2018, 23:30:42 »

Or how about my favorite decepticon, Starscream.

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Spoopi · « **Reply #51 on:** Sat, 27 October 2018, 13:41:09 »

Do you have any plans to do a hhkb style layout option? Also theres the gasket fad going around right now

laserbeamspewpew · « **Reply #52 on:** Sat, 27 October 2018, 14:15:32 »

HHKB?

holtenc · « **Reply #53 on:** Sat, 27 October 2018, 21:36:36 »

Nice. I'll have to keep an eye out for this.

MMKB · « **Reply #54 on:** Sat, 27 October 2018, 23:06:49 »

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Fri, 26 October 2018, 18:19:03

Believe this is the best bet, an image of the available layouts on the PCB
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Personally, this is the 40% layout that makes the most sense. Would be very cool to have HHKB style blockers.

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #55 on:** Sat, 27 October 2018, 23:12:53 »

Quote from: MMKB on Sat, 27 October 2018, 23:06:49

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Fri, 26 October 2018, 18:19:03
Believe this is the best bet, an image of the available layouts on the PCB
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Personally, this is the 40% layout that makes the most sense. Would be very cool to have HHKB style blockers.

I agree too, but don’t believe the OP is interested in offering an additional case option.

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MMKB · « **Reply #56 on:** Sat, 27 October 2018, 23:15:12 »

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Sat, 27 October 2018, 23:12:53

Quote from: MMKB on Sat, 27 October 2018, 23:06:49
Quote from: William_S_Jones on Fri, 26 October 2018, 18:19:03
Believe this is the best bet, an image of the available layouts on the PCB
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Personally, this is the 40% layout that makes the most sense. Would be very cool to have HHKB style blockers.
I agree too, but don’t believe the OP is interested in offering an additional case option.

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I don’t think so either. Hard to redesign the case at the moment. Unless it’s JD45 style — plate without two corners

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #57 on:** Sat, 27 October 2018, 23:40:06 »

Yeah, I’m fine w/ this though, Also, if extras can be ordered, we could order an additional PCB, and create a custom HHKB type Case w/ a plate that covers the corners...

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. · « **Reply #58 on:** Sun, 28 October 2018, 07:39:36 »

I have updated the OP to reflect the latest changes. Let me know what you think! Also, there will not be a blockered version.

Fabi · « **Reply #59 on:** Sun, 28 October 2018, 09:32:04 »

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Sat, 27 October 2018, 23:40:06

Yeah, I’m fine w/ this though, Also, if extras can be ordered, we could order an additional PCB, and create a custom HHKB type Case w/ a plate that covers the corners...

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Something like this?

Don't mind the colors by the way

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #60 on:** Sun, 28 October 2018, 10:23:31 »

Quote from: Fabi on Sun, 28 October 2018, 09:32:04

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Sat, 27 October 2018, 23:40:06
Yeah, I’m fine w/ this though, Also, if extras can be ordered, we could order an additional PCB, and create a custom HHKB type Case w/ a plate that covers the corners...

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Something like this?

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Don't mind the colors by the way ;)

Yes, like that, & love that keycap colorway....Looks like a future GB!!!

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Fabi · « **Reply #61 on:** Sun, 28 October 2018, 10:38:28 »

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Sun, 28 October 2018, 10:23:31

Looks like a future GB!!!

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Well, you never know

elfick · « **Reply #62 on:** Wed, 31 October 2018, 21:10:55 »

It looks like the PCB mounts are the same as the JD45, is that the case?

. · « **Reply #63 on:** Thu, 01 November 2018, 00:03:47 »

Quote from: elfick on Wed, 31 October 2018, 21:10:55

It looks like the PCB mounts are the same as the JD45, is that the case?

No, because the switch spacing is different.

tex_live_utility · « **Reply #64 on:** Tue, 13 November 2018, 17:37:18 »

Design is great, price is great. Count me in.

tehbuffcow · « **Reply #65 on:** Tue, 13 November 2018, 22:05:26 »

Quote from: maartenwut on Thu, 25 October 2018, 11:04:20

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The Minitomic is a 45% staggered keyboard which I've been working on over the last few months.
Before getting a prototype made and opening a group buy, I'd like to get your feedback on the design.

Some information:
- Tray mounted design with 8 mounting points
- High profile one piece anodized aluminium case
- QMK compatible PCB
- Brass or aluminium 1.5mm plate
- European switch spacing^tm (19mm)
- USB-C Connector
- Angle of 5 degrees
- Capslock indicator under tab key
- Reset button under left shift key
- Fully designed by me ;D

Anodization colors are to be determined, but will likely include black, silver and dark gray.
The price will hopefully be around 100-150 USD for a kit which includes a case, pcb and plate.

Supported layouts
These are the supported layouts right now, but let me know if you think it's missing something! KLE link

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More renders

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Thanks to janglad for the render at the top of this post
The keyset shown is DSA Just Beige by PrimeKB.

Would we be able to replace the 1.25Rshift and 1u key with a standard single 2.25u Rshift?

tentboy · « **Reply #66 on:** Wed, 14 November 2018, 12:25:12 »

I love it, think i may pick this up for my first under 60% board.

any idea on timeline for GB?

asdflkweoiaf23452 · « **Reply #67 on:** Fri, 16 November 2018, 09:41:27 »

I'm in.

futurecrime · « **Reply #68 on:** Fri, 16 November 2018, 09:59:02 »

Don't know if you saw these Janglad renders in the GMK DMG IC.

Abec13 · « **Reply #69 on:** Tue, 20 November 2018, 00:45:26 »

Consider me interested. I like the minivan but I want a full spacebar, they sound nicer. And the JD45 has no angle.

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goto-bus-stop · « **Reply #70 on:** Tue, 20 November 2018, 15:22:02 »

This looks great! I'm very interested in 4x% that can fit a Dvorak bottom row lol

Jkshowman · « **Reply #71 on:** Sun, 25 November 2018, 06:59:25 »

Oh man, does it support screw in feet for an angle?

Edit: saw the 5 degrees... please take my money...

gabetjh · « **Reply #72 on:** Mon, 26 November 2018, 01:24:33 »

im in!

MMKB · « **Reply #73 on:** Sat, 01 December 2018, 02:09:50 »

Quote from: maartenwut on Thu, 01 November 2018, 00:03:47

Quote from: elfick on Wed, 31 October 2018, 21:10:55
It looks like the PCB mounts are the same as the JD45, is that the case?
No, because the switch spacing is different.

Curious to know why switch spacing is different. Is JD45's slightly wider?

Honestly a must buy for me if JD45-style blockers could be an option. I hope that’s not too niche. Let me know if anyone thinks the same.

Jkshowman · « **Reply #74 on:** Sat, 01 December 2018, 03:26:49 »

just got a minivan, so excited to get this for dat USB C experience

tex_live_utility · « **Reply #75 on:** Sat, 01 December 2018, 16:31:17 »

Quote from: futurecrime on Fri, 16 November 2018, 09:59:02

Don't know if you saw these Janglad renders in the GMK DMG IC.

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This is one of the things that sold me on DMG. Looks really nice.

salasource · « **Reply #76 on:** Tue, 04 December 2018, 07:00:25 »

Blocked bottom row like JD45 would have been perfect. But this still seems like a good alternative for high profile JD45. Definitely interested!!!

MMKB · « **Reply #77 on:** Tue, 04 December 2018, 11:49:36 »

Quote from: maartenwut on Thu, 01 November 2018, 00:03:47

Quote from: elfick on Wed, 31 October 2018, 21:10:55
It looks like the PCB mounts are the same as the JD45, is that the case?
No, because the switch spacing is different.

Could you elaborate how the spacing differs? Thanks!

tentboy · « **Reply #78 on:** Tue, 04 December 2018, 12:09:43 »

any updates on this? I eagerly check this thread all the time

Teedacus · « **Reply #79 on:** Tue, 04 December 2018, 12:17:54 »

Quote from: MMKB on Tue, 04 December 2018, 11:49:36

Quote from: maartenwut on Thu, 01 November 2018, 00:03:47
Quote from: elfick on Wed, 31 October 2018, 21:10:55
It looks like the PCB mounts are the same as the JD45, is that the case?
No, because the switch spacing is different.

Could you elaborate how the spacing differs? Thanks!

I think it's because the Minitomic uses 19mm spacing, and the JD45 probably uses 19.05mm spacing.

MMKB · « **Reply #80 on:** Tue, 04 December 2018, 15:57:00 »

Quote from: Teedacus on Tue, 04 December 2018, 12:17:54

Quote from: MMKB on Tue, 04 December 2018, 11:49:36
Quote from: maartenwut on Thu, 01 November 2018, 00:03:47
Quote from: elfick on Wed, 31 October 2018, 21:10:55
It looks like the PCB mounts are the same as the JD45, is that the case?
No, because the switch spacing is different.

Could you elaborate how the spacing differs? Thanks!

I think it's because the Minitomic uses 19mm spacing, and the JD45 probably uses 19.05mm spacing.

If that's the case, I'd love to see some standard 45% PCB really -- I know I'm asking too much

but it would benefit a lot from interchangeable parts just like GH60.

. · « **Reply #81 on:** Tue, 04 December 2018, 17:49:49 »

Quote from: MMKB on Tue, 04 December 2018, 15:57:00

If that's the case, I'd love to see some standard 45% PCB really -- I know I'm asking too much but it would benefit a lot from interchangeable parts just like GH60.

There is no standard for anything besides 60% unfortunately.

salasource · « **Reply #82 on:** Mon, 07 January 2019, 03:25:44 »

Any news?
Out of all 40+% keeps in interest check phase, this is the most promising one because prelude has non standard stagger and lynx l50 will not support 6.25 spacebar.

. · « **Reply #83 on:** Mon, 07 January 2019, 17:40:46 »

Quote from: salasource on Mon, 07 January 2019, 03:25:44

Any news?
Out of all 40+% keeps in interest check phase, this is the most promising one because prelude has non standard stagger and lynx l50 will not support 6.25 spacebar.

I should be getting a few prototypes soon.

audiosl4ve · « **Reply #84 on:** Fri, 11 January 2019, 13:11:08 »

we're waiting

Obe · « **Reply #85 on:** Wed, 23 January 2019, 17:43:57 »

When can we expect a gb?

Agpatel · « **Reply #86 on:** Mon, 28 January 2019, 00:20:04 »

Look forward to this possibly being my first 40%

audiosl4ve · « **Reply #87 on:** Mon, 28 January 2019, 00:25:06 »

Quote from: Agpatel on Mon, 28 January 2019, 00:20:04

Look forward to this possibly being my first 40%

You mean 45%?

Agpatel · « **Reply #88 on:** Mon, 28 January 2019, 10:33:51 »

Well that is it now - I can no longer be apart of this GB once it goes live /s/. I should say my first 40-45% keyboard....

Abec13 · « **Reply #89 on:** Wed, 13 February 2019, 01:27:40 »

Minivan buy coming up, would rather have this, but based on the low volume of people on this thread, can't see it happening anytime soon?

. · « **Reply #90 on:** Wed, 13 February 2019, 01:28:56 »

Prototypes are in the works

audiosl4ve · « **Reply #91 on:** Wed, 13 February 2019, 05:04:17 »

Wowo nice nice. Can't wait!

Hedgey · « **Reply #92 on:** Wed, 13 February 2019, 08:24:10 »

I'm in for this.

crd · « **Reply #93 on:** Wed, 13 February 2019, 11:14:05 »

This will definitely be my first sub-60

OnceSavedGaming · « **Reply #94 on:** Tue, 19 February 2019, 17:50:42 »

This is another simple 45% that I feel like I need

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salasource · « **Reply #95 on:** Thu, 21 February 2019, 08:01:02 »

Any eta on the prototypes? In my mind 45% is the most comfortable to use.

CrazyNun · « **Reply #96 on:** Thu, 21 February 2019, 14:45:03 »

V interested

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #97 on:** Thu, 21 February 2019, 18:02:25 »

Quote from: salasource on Thu, 21 February 2019, 08:01:02

Any eta on the prototypes? In my mind 45% is the most comfortable to use.
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Nice keyset!!

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Jkshowman · « **Reply #98 on:** Thu, 21 February 2019, 18:47:30 »

following this very closely!

. · « **Reply #99 on:** Sat, 02 March 2019, 06:47:04 »

I've decided to kill support for in switch leds because

em

**** leds lol

OnceSavedGaming · « **Reply #100 on:** Sat, 02 March 2019, 07:11:51 »

Quote from: maartenwut on Sat, 02 March 2019, 06:47:04

I've decided to kill support for in switch leds because

em

**** leds lol

Anymore the amount of people doing in switch LEDs is so low, I don't know why anyone supports it anymore on custom kits

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sam278 · « **Reply #101 on:** Sun, 03 March 2019, 01:59:34 »

It's probably too late, but I second 1.25u blockers

Right now this keyboard is a solid maybe for me, but with an option for blockers like on the JD45 this would be insta buy for me and I think a lot of other people.

Aerizu · « **Reply #102 on:** Sun, 03 March 2019, 03:14:46 »

Is it too late to provide suggestions for the layout?
1.5u-1u-1.5u-2.25u-2.75u-1.5u-1u-1.5u Bottom Row

sam278 · « **Reply #103 on:** Sun, 03 March 2019, 23:44:01 »

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Something like this would be endgame 40% layout for me.

tex_live_utility · « **Reply #104 on:** Mon, 04 March 2019, 09:02:01 »

Quote from: Aerizu on Sun, 03 March 2019, 03:14:46

Is it too late to provide suggestions for the layout?
1.5u-1u-1.5u-2.25u-2.75u-1.5u-1u-1.5u Bottom Row

I like this one a lot. Makes for a nice blocked-corner option as well.

. · « **Reply #105 on:** Mon, 04 March 2019, 09:08:30 »

There will not be an option for blockers, at least for now. Nor am I going to add more layouts to it because it's good enough cheese as is.

sam278 · « **Reply #106 on:** Mon, 04 March 2019, 20:09:23 »

Will there be an option for us to buy just a PCB?

Elefantine · « **Reply #107 on:** Tue, 05 March 2019, 04:30:23 »

Love the layout!
Particularly the first one with the Fn key on the left as well as the right.
Only problem is I'd have to source a 1.75u spacebar.

snurrebassen · « **Reply #108 on:** Tue, 05 March 2019, 05:00:23 »

Nice. I've been wanting to make a 40%, this is exactly what I'd want!
In for one!

. · « **Reply #109 on:** Tue, 05 March 2019, 05:02:13 »

Quote from: sam278 on Mon, 04 March 2019, 20:09:23

Will there be an option for us to buy just a PCB?

Yes.

jihadu · « **Reply #110 on:** Thu, 07 March 2019, 17:47:55 »

Count me in maarten!
Extra plate and pcb as well

hervuli · « **Reply #111 on:** Thu, 07 March 2019, 20:07:04 »

Love how this looks, the layout with 2.25/2.75u split space would be the one for me. Pretty close to my ideal 40-45% layout!

. · « **Reply #112 on:** Fri, 22 March 2019, 14:50:47 »

The chinese prototype came in today.

Next to my plastic case tada68

jihadu · « **Reply #113 on:** Fri, 22 March 2019, 14:58:42 »

William_S_Jones · « **Reply #114 on:** Fri, 22 March 2019, 15:15:32 »

Quote from: maartenwut on Fri, 22 March 2019, 14:50:47

The chinese prototype came in today.

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Next to my plastic case tada68

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Nice Marteen, I like it!

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odd · « **Reply #115 on:** Fri, 22 March 2019, 17:28:38 »

Another awesome 45 def count me in

snamellit · « **Reply #116 on:** Fri, 22 March 2019, 17:29:06 »

Looks really great...

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osamine · « **Reply #117 on:** Mon, 25 March 2019, 01:14:19 »

Will the keyboard support usb c to usb c?

. · « **Reply #118 on:** Mon, 25 March 2019, 01:17:15 »

Quote from: osamine on Mon, 25 March 2019, 01:14:19

Will the keyboard support usb c to usb c?

Yes

salasource · « **Reply #119 on:** Mon, 25 March 2019, 10:04:17 »

waiting the GB to start

king.keebs · « **Reply #120 on:** Mon, 25 March 2019, 23:21:56 »

Literally made a GH account to say I WANT THISSS! Would love to hear a typing video like oldcat is doing for his GB
I like that you are minimizing layout options so the plate will have less holes and hopefully the keyboard will sound more full?

TuCZnak · « **Reply #121 on:** Tue, 26 March 2019, 15:04:56 »

This looks killer for 100$

Fezznat · « **Reply #122 on:** Tue, 26 March 2019, 19:42:00 »

prototype looks super cool, I'm definitely interested in one of these!

voight-kampff · « **Reply #123 on:** Wed, 27 March 2019, 01:29:35 »

Looks cool

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snamellit · « **Reply #124 on:** Tue, 02 April 2019, 12:23:02 »

I am awestruck by the way the USB-C connector and the case line up.

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Hotsauce · « **Reply #125 on:** Mon, 08 April 2019, 23:39:17 »

This looks awesome! Hopefully the price stays within the estimate and I’m in.

salasource · « **Reply #126 on:** Mon, 22 April 2019, 07:43:57 »

Any updates?

Troif · « **Reply #127 on:** Mon, 22 April 2019, 22:20:57 »

Interested definitely. I am IN.

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pixelpusher · « **Reply #128 on:** Tue, 23 April 2019, 13:25:14 »

I like my minivan a lot. It's the first 40% keyboard I've tried. But I still cannot get used to the apostrophe/enter key. What do you guys do for the apostrophe?

tex_live_utility · « **Reply #129 on:** Tue, 23 April 2019, 14:39:10 »

Quote from: pixelpusher on Tue, 23 April 2019, 13:25:14

I like my minivan a lot. It's the first 40% keyboard I've tried. But I still cannot get used to the apostrophe/enter key. What do you guys do for the apostrophe?

I use the Enter key as Fn, I put apostrophe where semicolon usually is, and I put semicolon on Fn+apostrophe.

Parva Ovis · « **Reply #130 on:** Tue, 23 April 2019, 19:45:11 »

Quote from: pixelpusher on Tue, 23 April 2019, 13:25:14

I like my minivan a lot. It's the first 40% keyboard I've tried. But I still cannot get used to the apostrophe/enter key. What do you guys do for the apostrophe?

I bind one of the spacekeys to FN; FN + ; is apostrophe, FN + Enter is quote.

Zacharius · « **Reply #131 on:** Tue, 23 April 2019, 23:46:52 »

This is looking great!

pixelpusher · « **Reply #132 on:** Fri, 26 April 2019, 08:39:47 »

Quote from: Parva Ovis on Tue, 23 April 2019, 19:45:11

Quote from: pixelpusher on Tue, 23 April 2019, 13:25:14
I like my minivan a lot. It's the first 40% keyboard I've tried. But I still cannot get used to the apostrophe/enter key. What do you guys do for the apostrophe?
I bind one of the spacekeys to FN; FN + ; is apostrophe, FN + Enter is quote.

Quote from: tex_live_utility on Tue, 23 April 2019, 14:39:10

Quote from: pixelpusher on Tue, 23 April 2019, 13:25:14
I like my minivan a lot. It's the first 40% keyboard I've tried. But I still cannot get used to the apostrophe/enter key. What do you guys do for the apostrophe?

I use the Enter key as Fn, I put apostrophe where semicolon usually is, and I put semicolon on Fn+apostrophe.

I’ve tried this but I get terribly frustrated when I hit enter instead of apostrophe. Maybe I just need to give it more practice. Can qmk do tap for apostrophe and hold for enter? That might be weird though

fireworm · « **Reply #133 on:** Fri, 26 April 2019, 14:08:29 »

Quote from: pixelpusher on Fri, 26 April 2019, 08:39:47

Quote from: Parva Ovis on Tue, 23 April 2019, 19:45:11
Quote from: pixelpusher on Tue, 23 April 2019, 13:25:14
I like my minivan a lot. It's the first 40% keyboard I've tried. But I still cannot get used to the apostrophe/enter key. What do you guys do for the apostrophe?
I bind one of the spacekeys to FN; FN + ; is apostrophe, FN + Enter is quote.

Quote from: tex_live_utility on Tue, 23 April 2019, 14:39:10
Quote from: pixelpusher on Tue, 23 April 2019, 13:25:14
I like my minivan a lot. It's the first 40% keyboard I've tried. But I still cannot get used to the apostrophe/enter key. What do you guys do for the apostrophe?

I use the Enter key as Fn, I put apostrophe where semicolon usually is, and I put semicolon on Fn+apostrophe.

I’ve tried this but I get terribly frustrated when I hit enter instead of apostrophe. Maybe I just need to give it more practice. Can qmk do tap for apostrophe and hold for enter? That might be weird though

Split space: one as enter, one as space. 'Enter key' is just a 1.75u Apostrophe, where it should be (next to

. Split space 'enter' is tap for enter, hold for a nav fn layer.

pixelpusher · « **Reply #134 on:** Sun, 28 April 2019, 11:40:49 »

That might work. I don’t use the left Spacebar except for gaming, but I could put a separate gaming layer on it. I like the idea of accidentally pressing apostrophe when I need enter Better than the other way around. I’ve replied to so many messages like this accidentally:

I
I’ve tried to map it that way but it
it’s a frustration that I
I’d like to do away with

This is how it usually comes out on my 40% boards. 😂

goto-bus-stop · « **Reply #135 on:** Sun, 28 April 2019, 14:03:07 »

prototype looks sick! still excited about this

salasource · « **Reply #136 on:** Tue, 21 May 2019, 05:33:15 »

Any updates?

victorpre · « **Reply #137 on:** Tue, 21 May 2019, 09:15:26 »

Nice board! It would be nice to have a BT option

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Karni · « **Reply #138 on:** Wed, 14 August 2019, 04:44:19 »

Looks great, would love 1.25 blockers for hhkb look

EMC Labs · « **Reply #139 on:** Wed, 14 August 2019, 05:53:59 »

Anything happen to this project?

. · « **Reply #140 on:** Wed, 14 August 2019, 17:49:52 »

Quote from: Nightcrawler on Wed, 14 August 2019, 05:53:59

Anything happen to this project?

Life happened. Prototypes have been made and some people have one already. It's definitely not dead but hugely delayed.

idlemao · « **Reply #141 on:** Sat, 12 October 2019, 15:15:11 »

Really hope this gets going again

juliandoucette · « **Reply #142 on:** Sun, 13 October 2019, 16:09:26 »

Very interested.

I'd prefer 1.5u left shift / uniform stagger though.

. · « **Reply #143 on:** Thu, 09 April 2020, 12:13:31 »

Mykeyboard.eu will probably run this board this year!

. · « **Reply #144 on:** Thu, 16 April 2020, 17:33:35 »

David from mykeyboard is working on the details at the moment such as the pcb, case and plates etc. Really excited to see this happen soon!

equalunique · « **Reply #145 on:** Fri, 17 April 2020, 01:53:18 »

Bottom row is real similar to what I use on my ortho boards. Count me in.

sevenseacat · « **Reply #146 on:** Fri, 17 April 2020, 08:56:50 »

Yeah I'm down for this.

salasource · « **Reply #147 on:** Mon, 20 April 2020, 09:27:53 »

Looking forward to!

CaninoDev · « **Reply #148 on:** Mon, 20 April 2020, 23:18:54 »

I'm in

puddingfarmer · « **Reply #149 on:** Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:57:05 »

Is there a mailing list or something I can get on so I don't miss it? Thanks!

konstantin · « **Reply #150 on:** Sun, 30 August 2020, 13:56:42 »

Hi Maarten! Are you still planning on running this?

vaf1en · « **Reply #151 on:** Fri, 04 September 2020, 16:34:18 »

I would very much like one of these.
Think it would be a perfect match for KAM_Superuser down the line.

paperassgasket · « **Reply #152 on:** Fri, 04 September 2020, 16:39:56 »

It's so hard seeing this thread get pinged after 2 years asking if it's still happening.

Even harder that there hasn't really been anything quite comparable in the meantime that I'm aware of.

. · « **Reply #153 on:** Fri, 09 April 2021, 12:17:43 »

Since absolutely nothing seems to be happening, here it is: https://github.com/evyd13/minitomic

paperassgasket · « **Reply #154 on:** Fri, 09 April 2021, 12:26:57 »

Quote from: evyd13 on Fri, 09 April 2021, 12:17:43

Since absolutely nothing seems to be happening, here it is: https://github.com/evyd13/minitomic

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