Author Topic: A Gentle Request: Give the Apple Bashing a Rest Please (Read 25974 times)

TexasFlood · « **Reply #100 on:** Fri, 19 March 2010, 11:03:09 »

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Unless you count the $20,000 in electricity it took to operate it as noise.

Had it been fan cooled, I'm sure it would have sounded like a jet turbine.

They did generate a lot of heat. I recall one that was in a relatively small lab when the water based cooling system for the room developed a leak and had to be shut down. We had to shut the Cray down. Still got pretty damn warm in there but think it would have been fatal if the Cray had still been running.

InSanCen · « **Reply #101 on:** Fri, 19 March 2010, 17:26:12 »

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There seriously are 060 modded versions of the Falcon floating around out there? I'd love to see that!

The Hades 060 is the one that comes immediatly to mind.

My friend is running a CT63 at ~100Mhz

ch_123 · « **Reply #102 on:** Tue, 20 April 2010, 04:29:34 »

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I can never keep track of which is which...is the Mighty Mouse the wired one with little scroll ball, or Bluetooth wireless one with touch scrolling?

In the case of the latter don't bother, the latency is REALLY bad...I notice this and all I'm doing is basic use stuff for the most part. You may have seen the old PS/2 wireless ball mouse I use on my 286 from time to time...it tracks better with less latency.

The one with the little ball should be similar to the slightly earlier semitransparent optical ones.

I used one of these the other day in a computer store. I thought they were a definite improvement over the Mighty Mouse in most departments, and I didnt notice any lag issues.

kishy · « **Reply #103 on:** Tue, 20 April 2010, 13:14:59 »

Hmm...maybe something to do with the software setup on my friend's hackintosh (that's where I've used it).

ch_123 · « **Reply #104 on:** Tue, 20 April 2010, 14:50:18 »

Haha, there's your problem right there.

I mean, it wasn't the sort of thing that made you think "OMG I HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF THESE" but it was probably the best mouse you're likely to get free with a computer, albeit a €1,100 one...

vyshane · « **Reply #105 on:** Sun, 25 April 2010, 21:30:51 »

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Hmm...maybe something to do with the software setup on my friend's hackintosh (that's where I've used it).

Mouse lag is a known issue with nvidia cards in hackintoshes. Likely not magic mouse related.

kishy · « **Reply #106 on:** Sun, 25 April 2010, 22:07:00 »

Yeah he's got a GeForce Go something-or-other. That'd do it, I suppose.

quadibloc · « **Reply #107 on:** Sun, 25 April 2010, 23:48:34 »

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Some day I'll fit the one true computer into my bedroom -

I recently learned one interesting thing about the VAX. At least two models (the 6500 and the 8800) included the option of vector operations which were of a similar type to those of the Cray-1. And the architecture also provided for packed decimal operations.

I like that kind of versatility. And it even has the IBM 360 architecture beat, because while there were vector attachments for the 370, they were only the memory-to-memory kind, not including vector registers, which greatly enhanced the performance of the Cray.

wellington1869 · « **Reply #108 on:** Mon, 26 April 2010, 00:08:58 »

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Ever since the iPad announcement, the knives have been out on every forum online that doesn't have a pro-Apple slant to it. Look, I get it. A lot of people are annoyed at the spin factory that is part of the Apple operation and a lot of people even dislike their products for substantial technical reasons. This is all fine. You have every right to your opinion and I completely agree that a lot of Apple stuff is more hype than substance and some of it is even all hype and no substance.

I own a number of Apple products and while I'm no fanboy, it's just tiresome to see every other thread digress into Apple bashing when it's not even relevant. The more it happens, the more it'll attract people who want to flame anything Apple and probably some people who worship the Steve and see it as their religous duty to defend the Apple crest to this site. GeekHack will become just like every other tech discussion site that lost its desire to actually have real discussions. It'll be a bunch of people screaming at each other with the ones who are the most extreme in their positions gaining the most attention. It's poisonous for bashing of any sort to become the way people bond on a site so please give it a rest.

There are plenty of sites that are all about hating Apple, hating Microsoft, hating Linux, hating PCs, hating the Steve, hating the Bill... If this kind of thing makes your **** bigger, go there and you'll have an 80 foot Johnson in a week. Please don't turn this site into another one of those sites.

An in very un-GeekHack like fasion, I'll end by saying "Thank you."

replying belatedly to the original post...

I have a friend who I used to work with who's been an apple guy all his life. I've been a PC guy all my life. We kind of look upon each others world with a mixture of curiosity and suspicion. Every now and then we have huge arguments about whether MS or Apple is less evil (an argument that is, of course, fairly pointless). Once we had such a bad argument over MS/Apple that we didnt talk for 2 months. Seems pretty silly in retrospect.

I think its because computer familiarity is like learning a first language, and people will always be more familiar with their first language, and their first computing culture, and like ethnicity or religion, will tend to defend it if too harshly attacked. I just met my friend over the weekend (hadnt seen him in a year) and we promptly had another MS/Apple argument (over the ipad of course).

But we're both older now and thankfully a bit more mature. I conceded that I'd probably be buying one, and conceded some of its marvelous aspects that MS ought to take inspiration from. He conceded some of its limitations (usb, printing, flash, etc) and conceded Apple today is probably everything he once used to call MS.

Sad thing is, it took us nearly 10 years of arguing this to get to the point where we can diplomatically recognize the other's point of view on this topic.

Still, thats progress I guess.

hyperlinked · « **Reply #109 on:** Mon, 26 April 2010, 01:34:44 »

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Sad thing is, it took us nearly 10 years of arguing this to get to the point where we can diplomatically recognize the other's point of view on this topic.

Still, thats progress I guess.

That's good to hear for you and your friend. It's all bull**** and totally not worth it. The last time I felt compelled to get all huffy about what was the best computer was when I was 15 and owned an Atari 1040ST and the Atari folks didn't like the Commodore Amiga folks or the PC folks or the Apple folks. That's a lot of people to hate and even if you truly believed you supported the best, it got old to hate the rest of the world.

It's a pile of silica, plastic, metal, and glass. If you have a good experience, feel free to practice unabashed brand loyalty because your time is valuable. There are different reasons for owning hardware and other people have different needs and everything out there exists in an ecosystem. You might not be able to have one without the other(s).

Why am I primarily a Mac user? It's very simple and it's what I tell people when they ask me what kind of computer they should buy. No, I don't tell them buy what I own. I tell them to buy what their friends or closest associates own because they're going to need support and software recommendations. When I had to pack my Atari ST into a box as an artifact, most of my friends owned a Mac so I bought one of those.

Now, hopefully you and your friend don't just start arguing about something else. Maybe you guys just like to debate.

As long as it works for both of you, I guess that's ok. I have a friend who's a lawyer and man does that guy just like to argue about anything! It's fun to him.

hyperlinked · « **Reply #110 on:** Mon, 26 April 2010, 14:44:05 »

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I agree this discussion is irrelevant. The Amiga was way better. The Atari was like her ugly sister, who no one wants to date. I'll get into more details once I settled the ZX Spectrum/Commodore 64 war.

No it's not! No it's not!

You know, I never realized until the other day that the Atari ST was basically designed by ex-Commodore engineers and that the Amiga was the work of ex-Atari engineers.

Nonmouse · « **Reply #111 on:** Mon, 26 April 2010, 14:56:10 »

Yeah, Apple does make some worthwhile products...

kode · « **Reply #112 on:** Mon, 26 April 2010, 23:20:28 »

This ripster?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ntr23/sets/72157623793156013/

ricercar · « **Reply #113 on:** Mon, 26 April 2010, 23:44:42 »

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This ripster?

Black n red. Looks like rip to me.

xsphat · « **Reply #114 on:** Tue, 27 April 2010, 00:10:45 »

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Yeah, Apple does make some worthwhile products...

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OMG that is great. I have a burned out Mac Mini in my closet, maybe I should do that.

wellington1869 · « **Reply #115 on:** Tue, 27 April 2010, 00:22:44 »

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Now, hopefully you and your friend don't just start arguing about something else. Maybe you guys just like to debate. As long as it works for both of you, I guess that's ok. I have a friend who's a lawyer and man does that guy just like to argue about anything! It's fun to him.

yea we tend to 'debate' a bit too much probably

If we're not arguing about computers then its politics.
Funny thing is we're both leftists, but we still find like a 5% difference to fight over

Most of the time its just good fun though.

hyperlinked · « **Reply #116 on:** Tue, 27 April 2010, 01:18:28 »

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yea we tend to 'debate' a bit too much probably If we're not arguing about computers then its politics.
Funny thing is we're both leftists, but we still find like a 5% difference to fight over Most of the time its just good fun though.

I think you might be friends with the same argument-loving friend of mine. I didn't realize he spent time in NY.

Specter_57 · « **Reply #117 on:** Tue, 27 April 2010, 05:43:59 »

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hyperlinked · « **Reply #118 on:** Tue, 27 April 2010, 07:01:27 »

microsoft windows · « **Reply #119 on:** Tue, 27 April 2010, 14:03:47 »

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For wiping the Crapple off your ass.

itlnstln · « **Reply #120 on:** Tue, 27 April 2010, 14:08:24 »

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For wiping the Crapple off your ass.

That's pretty funny.

Specter_57 · « **Reply #121 on:** Tue, 27 April 2010, 19:13:09 »

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The image in post #140....

I wonder if you could gut out the crap of the original and replace it with a bread toaster....?

and then, I present to you...

"the MACQuarium..."

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kishy · « **Reply #122 on:** Tue, 27 April 2010, 19:30:49 »

I prefer the one made out of a PS/2 Model 25.

Apparently IBM even made better fishtanks than Apple ever could.

microsoft windows · « **Reply #123 on:** Tue, 27 April 2010, 19:40:21 »

That makes sense. Apple never beats IBM quality.

wellington1869 · « **Reply #124 on:** Wed, 28 April 2010, 01:01:53 »

actual product

Rajagra · « **Reply #125 on:** Wed, 28 April 2010, 02:12:33 »

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actual product

Yo Dawg, I put an iPod in your iPoo so you can Mac while you crap!

HaaTa · « **Reply #126 on:** Wed, 28 April 2010, 02:47:09 »

NoooooPoooooooo on uuuuuu!

*Its troll week on GH*

hyperlinked · « **Reply #127 on:** Wed, 28 April 2010, 02:53:06 »

You know it's bad when the OP is trolling his own thread.

Rajagra · « **Reply #128 on:** Wed, 28 April 2010, 06:52:14 »

I have nothing against Apple. But it's wise to be cautious when someone tries to tempt you with something new.

wellington1869 · « **Reply #129 on:** Wed, 28 April 2010, 09:24:01 »

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Yo Dawg, I put an iPod in your iPoo so you can Mac while you crap!

Hahahahahahahahaha

I'd like to see an apple ad with a rap in it. The music they play in their ads is SO white trash. Flowers and butterflies and "indy" young women with acoustic guitars in a starbucks singing about love or something. Blech.

kishy · « **Reply #130 on:** Wed, 28 April 2010, 09:41:19 »

Agreed, the "Apple music" is a strange phase in the history of music. I call it "garbage" since it is...

Of course, about 300% of modern music is garbage anyway, so maybe it's not so bad when put in the context of other "modern music" considering that.

Know what song makes me want to punch random strangers? Feist, anything by Feist, doesn't matter what the song is, she sounds ANNOYING.

Interesting fact: studies were able to confirm that something about the tone and frequency of most female voices makes males very irritated when they hear it.

hyperlinked · « **Reply #131 on:** Wed, 28 April 2010, 09:44:07 »

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I'd like to see an apple ad with a rap in it. The music they play in their ads is SO white trash. Flowers and butterflies and "indy" young women with acoustic guitars in a starbucks singing about love or something. Blech.

Find an ad from any Fortune 500 company that uses rap for marketing. I can't think of any, but then again the only TV I watch is hockey.

wellington1869 · « **Reply #132 on:** Wed, 28 April 2010, 09:45:32 »

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Of course, about 300% of modern music is garbage anyway,

agreed 1000 percent

you know which song makes me want to punch strangers? This one in this chrysler ad:

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Author Topic: A Gentle Request: Give the Apple Bashing a Rest Please (Read 25974 times)