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Title: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 26 December 2015, 14:02:04
Project revealed here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83833


Hi guys,

After some more discussion with Gateron, Project Stab is doable so I'm here to gauge interest on the demand of these stabs. As PCB mounted stabs are hardly ever used commercially, this project will need A LOT of interest in order to be economically feasible as I expect the MOQ to be similar to switches (which is a lot).

What's new:

1) Stabs will come "pre-clipped" and take on the vintage shape like so:
If anyone has some disassembled pictures of the slider, please post/PM me. If anyone has pictures of the Ducky/Vortex orange stabs internals, I'd be interested in looking at those too.
(http://puu.sh/m8SI5/cddb260215.jpg)

2)The housing will be clear, (and so can the sliders?colour vote?)
-Clear slider
-Purple Slider
-???colour (comment)
If we end up with clear sliders, the mould would most likely be different from other colours. It's just the nature of the transparent plastics that prevents "regular" coloured plastics from being used.

3)Stabilizer mould will obviously be smoother than current generation Cherry stabs.

4)I know that spacebar wires have been really hard to source as Cherry P/Ns don't exist for them. I'll be getting the wires custom bent and gold plated!

Not sure about demand of screw-in style.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 26 December 2015, 14:05:40
I would love some screw-in ones, color isn't important.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: joey on Sat, 26 December 2015, 14:08:40
yes
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Steezus on Sat, 26 December 2015, 20:10:35
I've never tried screw in stabs before, I'm curious to give them a go. :thumb:

I would definitely like to have clear housings and gold wires, black sticks out a lot with an acrylic plate and Zealios.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 26 December 2015, 20:39:24
I'd be in for some. I'm all for green but transparent would probably be best for everyone.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Digitize on Sat, 26 December 2015, 20:47:07
i like the idea.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 26 December 2015, 21:11:29
I'm in for a dozen. Users can easily dye their own to whatever color they prefer. So just offer clear.

Also I do like the screw in kind but wasn't aware there could be a compatibility issue. So I'm okay if we do the "toothpick secured" kind.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: quake4mhg on Sat, 26 December 2015, 22:27:49
My noob question, is it fits my Vortex Race 1? what's the different feel from my original Cherry stabs? Thanks.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZuRONxHm.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Sat, 26 December 2015, 22:30:46
I have a set of screw in stabs if you'd like to borrow them! They've already been clipped, but I'd be happy to send them to you, just shoot me a pm!

I'd be down for at least 6 sets. Preferably 4 with 6.25x spacebar, and 2 with 7x.

So yeah!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: exitfire401 on Sat, 26 December 2015, 22:31:17
I'd be buying a lot of sets. Extra stabs are always good to have, and colors don't make any difference to me. I do have plans for a silver/purple 40%, so purple sliders would be perfect for that.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: strict on Sat, 26 December 2015, 23:34:47
I know this is about Cherry stabs and I normally wouldn't mention this except for the part where you said you were getting custom stab wires bent, is there any chance 7u Costar stab wires could be produced at some point? They are ridiculously hard to come across, it took me 8+ months and too much money to get the one I'm using now.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 26 December 2015, 23:37:26
I would love some screw-in ones, color isn't important.

Screw ins or nothing. 
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Sat, 26 December 2015, 23:39:00
Oh, I could also probably provide the stabs from a pok3r, if that would help as well!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: swornxin on Sat, 26 December 2015, 23:42:40
This would be awesome. I'd be in for at least a couple sets.

EDIT: No preference for colour. Both clear and purple would look good, in my opinion.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 27 December 2015, 13:59:42
My noob question, is it fits my Vortex Race 1? what's the different feel from my original Cherry stabs? Thanks.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZuRONxHm.jpg)

Yes, it'll fit in your Vortex Race 1 since it's PCB mount. Chances are your stabs aren't "clipped", so the stabilized keys feel mushy when bottoming out. The goal of these new stabs is to have them factory made flush so no clipping is required.

I have a set of screw in stabs if you'd like to borrow them! They've already been clipped, but I'd be happy to send them to you, just shoot me a pm!

I'd be down for at least 6 sets. Preferably 4 with 6.25x spacebar, and 2 with 7x.

So yeah!


Thanks for the offer. I'm in the process of obtaining some vintage stabs that are pictured in the OP, but if that falls through I'd hit you up! Oh and stabs sent to me most likely won't be coming back as it will be sent to Gateron. To make sorting easier, stabs will be sold in one pack as follows:

7x 2u (covers full size keyboards, custom split space layouts, 1800, etc)
1x 6.25u
1x 7u


I know this is about Cherry stabs and I normally wouldn't mention this except for the part where you said you were getting custom stab wires bent, is there any chance 7u Costar stab wires could be produced at some point? They are ridiculously hard to come across, it took me 8+ months and too much money to get the one I'm using now.

I'm not sure how feasible that is due to MOQ requirements from the metal factory that Gateron uses. :(

Oh, I could also probably provide the stabs from a pok3r, if that would help as well!

I'm very interested in seeing how the orange stabs look like from the underside. I've yet to see or find a picture of them not installed in a Ducky/Poker.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 27 December 2015, 15:17:07
Just wanted to say that I have had problems with screw-in stabs on GON and winkeyless.kr 60% boards. The screw creates a short on the LED pads. I've had to change all the stabs to standard ones. And to be honest the screw doesn't bring anything from my point of view. Normal ones are better.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: rm-rf on Sun, 27 December 2015, 15:20:15
Just wanted to say that I have had problems with screw-in stabs on GON and winkeyless.kr 60% boards. The screw creates a short on the LED pads. I've had to change all the stabs to standard ones. And to be honest the screw doesn't bring anything from my point of view. Normal ones are better.
just use a plastic washer?

Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Steezus on Sun, 27 December 2015, 15:25:19
Just wanted to say that I have had problems with screw-in stabs on GON and winkeyless.kr 60% boards. The screw creates a short on the LED pads. I've had to change all the stabs to standard ones. And to be honest the screw doesn't bring anything from my point of view. Normal ones are better.
just use a plastic washer?

That just adds more work to a problem that shouldn't really exist in the first place. I like the concept of screws but I've honestly never had a problem with any of my regular PCB mounted stabs.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 27 December 2015, 15:29:03
The regular ones are perfect, the screw type are just fancy and nothing more. Tried a plastic washer it was just a pain. And forget about beeing more solid the screw ones, they're not, they get pulled as easy as the normal ones. The plastic is soft and after you remove the screw a couple of times you can forget about them, they get loose.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 27 December 2015, 15:32:26
If these are available at a reasonable price I would be in for some !
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: rm-rf on Sun, 27 December 2015, 15:38:16
The regular ones are perfect, the screw type are just fancy and nothing more. Tried a plastic washer it was just a pain. And forget about beeing more solid the screw ones, they're not, they get pulled as easy as the normal ones. The plastic is soft and after you remove the screw a couple of times you can forget about them, they get loose.

if you are taking these things on and off a board,  don't apply so much torque to strip the threads?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: rm-rf on Sun, 27 December 2015, 15:39:19
well, i would like to buy a bunch if the price is alright. ^^
i really dislike the plate mounted stab housing, they never stay in.
and the pcb mounted ones are ok, but sometimes they come out.
i was placing small bits of plastic in between the two prongs to keep them in place.
for me these would be great for boards without plates.
i have a bunch of paper thin plastic washers that would be perfect for keeping the screws from contacting any spots on the pcb.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: xondat on Sun, 27 December 2015, 16:09:53
Make this match to Zealios and I'll buy a few sets. I'd personally like clear housing with purple stabs. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: cjhard on Sun, 27 December 2015, 17:14:16
I have interests in this. I haven't used my screw-in stabs from Ivan's buy yet because I could see where the screws would dig in and short my FaceW, and haven't had time to go get, or have made, mini plastic washers.

The stripped threads is also of concern, it is just a screw into plastic. Maybe a little tiny threaded nut and longer screws, or a recess in the plastic where the nut is held could help?

Has anyone thought of a way to reduce or eliminate stab ringing too? It's especially nasty with a heavier spring under a 7u spacebar.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 27 December 2015, 17:38:19
Has anyone thought of a way to reduce or eliminate stab ringing too? It's especially nasty with a heavier spring under a 7u spacebar.


Thick lube and bandaid mod below the stab :) If you cut carefully, it won't even show.

(http://puu.sh/maIim/dc17c2b81a.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Sun, 27 December 2015, 20:52:53
@zeal, these are off of a pok3r! Hope that helps. They are potato pics from my phone, so if you need something better, I have a dslr and a macro lens I can use. I just got lazy after about two hours of desoldering/replacing stabs and then resoldering
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: cjhard on Sun, 27 December 2015, 21:42:55
Thick lube and bandaid mod below the stab :) If you cut carefully, it won't even show.

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/maIim/dc17c2b81a.jpg)


And this kills the Upswing Ring from releasing the key? I'm having difficulties imagining what Band-Aid brand adhesive bandages achieve for this.

@zeal, these are off of a pok3r! Hope that helps. They are potato pics from my phone, so if you need something better, I have a dslr and a macro lens I can use. I just got lazy after about two hours of desoldering/replacing stabs and then resoldering

Is that a PCB stab wire in a plate mount stab? Many of us waited a few extra months for GMK Dolch because the plate mount stabs accidentally got paired with the middle-bend wires..
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 27 December 2015, 21:46:19
The regular ones are perfect, the screw type are just fancy and nothing more. Tried a plastic washer it was just a pain. And forget about beeing more solid the screw ones, they're not, they get pulled as easy as the normal ones. The plastic is soft and after you remove the screw a couple of times you can forget about them, they get loose.

It depends on the board.  On some of my boards, anytime I pop a cap, the pop in ones come out and I have to reseat them.  On those boards they also tend to feel a little loose and make more noise than the screw in ones.  If I use a screw in stabilizer, I don't have any of those problems.

If you're really worried about them coming loose, there are various things you can put on the threads to make them tougher to unscrew.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Sun, 27 December 2015, 22:39:55
The regular ones are perfect, the screw type are just fancy and nothing more. Tried a plastic washer it was just a pain. And forget about beeing more solid the screw ones, they're not, they get pulled as easy as the normal ones. The plastic is soft and after you remove the screw a couple of times you can forget about them, they get loose.

It depends on the board.  On some of my boards, anytime I pop a cap, the pop in ones come out and I have to reseat them.  On those boards they also tend to feel a little loose and make more noise than the screw in ones.  If I use a screw in stabilizer, I don't have any of those problems.

If you're really worried about them coming loose, there are various things you can put on the threads to make them tougher to unscrew.
That's how I feel about it.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Sun, 27 December 2015, 22:40:56
Thick lube and bandaid mod below the stab :) If you cut carefully, it won't even show.

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/maIim/dc17c2b81a.jpg)


And this kills the Upswing Ring from releasing the key? I'm having difficulties imagining what Band-Aid brand adhesive bandages achieve for this.

@zeal, these are off of a pok3r! Hope that helps. They are potato pics from my phone, so if you need something better, I have a dslr and a macro lens I can use. I just got lazy after about two hours of desoldering/replacing stabs and then resoldering

Is that a PCB stab wire in a plate mount stab? Many of us waited a few extra months for GMK Dolch because the plate mount stabs accidentally got paired with the middle-bend wires..
Haha! That's just off another set. It doesn't actually go in the pok3r, I just needed the flat bar for the pok3r since I reassembled it with pcb mount stabs!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: derzemel on Mon, 28 December 2015, 00:42:05
I am very interested, but only if they will be normal clip ones, not the screw ones.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 28 December 2015, 14:10:43
@zeal, these are off of a pok3r! Hope that helps. They are potato pics from my phone, so if you need something better, I have a dslr and a macro lens I can use. I just got lazy after about two hours of desoldering/replacing stabs and then resoldering

Thanks, very much appreciated. This confirms that the sliders were flattened and "clipped".

Thick lube and bandaid mod below the stab :) If you cut carefully, it won't even show.

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/maIim/dc17c2b81a.jpg)


And this kills the Upswing Ring from releasing the key? I'm having difficulties imagining what Band-Aid brand adhesive bandages achieve for this.

If you lube your stabs properly and apply some on the bandaid, you'll have 0 rattle. You can vigorously shake a freshly modded PCB and you won't hear a single rattle.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 28 December 2015, 14:15:14
I would buy a few sets, regardless of color. I would prefer screw in, since I can get the normal ones from winkeyless.kr , and other places, although these would be nicer I imagine.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 28 December 2015, 15:48:29
Quote
TRANSPARENT!
TRANSPARENT!

^ That was everyone shouting.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 28 December 2015, 15:55:06
Quote
TRANSPARENT!
TRANSPARENT!

^ That was everyone shouting.

Can confirm, needs to match Zealio or bust.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: amharris on Mon, 28 December 2015, 17:13:07
I've never tried screw in stabs before, I'm curious to give them a go. :thumb:

I would definitely like to have clear housings and gold wires, black sticks out a lot with an acrylic plate and Zealios.

+1 to every point that you've listed here.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: zhihuichan on Mon, 28 December 2015, 21:10:48
Golden wires black housing and clear slider, sounds very nice combo.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Steezus on Mon, 28 December 2015, 21:13:07
Golden wires black housing and clear slider, sounds very nice combo.

Black is already readily available, no point in making more. Clear all the way! :p
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: zhihuichan on Mon, 28 December 2015, 21:16:52
Maybe golden wires clear housing and purple slider. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Mon, 28 December 2015, 21:17:35
Maybe golden wires clear housing and purple slider. :)
This is what I would like.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: zhihuichan on Mon, 28 December 2015, 21:26:40
Maybe golden wires clear housing and purple slider. :)
This is what I would like.

Yep, it will work better in with purple zealio switch than cherry stabs.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 28 December 2015, 21:40:59
Maybe golden wires clear housing and purple slider. :)
This is what I would like.

Yep, it will work better in with purple zealio switch than cherry stabs.

Yeah but all clear stabs will work better will all switches and they can still be dyed.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Mon, 28 December 2015, 21:51:02
Totes intredasted.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: DukeMugen on Mon, 28 December 2015, 22:13:38
Transparent! Wuhoooooooooo! Finally!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ika on Mon, 28 December 2015, 23:05:33
I really like this idea but I'm a little scared of what the price would be. A gold-plated stab set is pushing the boundaries of what is reasonable for keyboard parts IMO.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 29 December 2015, 21:37:47
Love the idea of transparent stabs, and would definitely be down for a bunch as well!  :thumb:

Going all clear (so clear housing & slider) to match every type of switch would be the most universal choice imo and therefor probably best to reach moq.
Also, I personally prefer standard vs gold plated wires for a more technical and less blingy look. (not a huge fan of anything gold plated)


Purple sliders with gold plated wires would almost be a deal breaker for me tbh, since I prefer using linears which f.e. on Zealios would have clear sliders as well.
After all, having all clear sliders on switches, but purples on stabs is definitely worse then having purple Zealios with all clear stabs.  ;)

In terms of the wires, those could probably still be replaced with regular ones for people who don't like the added bling of gold plating like myself.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: edel781 on Sun, 03 January 2016, 22:34:35
Purple sliders with gold plated wires would almost be a deal breaker for me tbh, since I prefer using linears which f.e. on Zealios would have clear sliders as well.
After all, having all clear sliders on switches, but purples on stabs is definitely worse then having purple Zealios with all clear stabs.  ;)

+1  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 04 January 2016, 05:13:31
I wouldn't mind if it was black housing, sliders and wire.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: theanyday on Mon, 04 January 2016, 09:14:46
Definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Mon, 04 January 2016, 11:29:57
I think I'd be down for all clear or white stabs, with gold wires. Although I'm not particular about wire color, slider color would be a dealbreaker.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:37:12
Well, it seems that Gateron is unwilling to produce stabs in transparent plastic, only in white/milky due to a few reasons. Also given the lack of response, it wouldn't be ideal to create two new moulds for a single run. :(

Time to work on Zealio-S (which will definitely happen). 
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:42:22
Well, it seems that Gateron is unwilling to produce stabs in transparent plastic, only in white/milky due to a few reasons. Also given the lack of response, it wouldn't be ideal to create two new moulds for a single run. :(

Time to work on Zealio-S (which will definitely happen).
If that means a silenced switch, you can absolutely count me in!!! Otherwise, you can probably still count me in! XD
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: sairex on Tue, 05 January 2016, 01:15:12
I'm interested in these stabs if it ever happens!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 05 January 2016, 10:13:34
I'm interested in these stabs if it ever happens!

It looks like it's a no go, there's not enough interest for the cost of creating new molds and the moq. Even though it seemed like Zeal pumped out a **** ton of switches last round that is still considered very minuscule in the eyes of Gateron.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 06 January 2016, 02:19:57
rip
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 06 January 2016, 08:22:55
No!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 06 January 2016, 11:43:38
Vortex didn't ask for permission for orange stabs wtf bro
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 06 January 2016, 13:21:55
Dang. I was super excited about this.  :'(
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 06 January 2016, 14:10:40
Dang. I was super excited about this.  :'(

Well, I just got my quotes in for moulds and stab prices... It's doable depending on pricing. What kind of pricing are people expecting for 1 set consisting of: 7x 2u stabs, 1x 6.25u, 1x 7u? How many stab sets are you willing to order?

*please note that stabs may either be translucent white or transparent clear depending on the final result.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 06 January 2016, 14:13:28
What kind of pricing are people expecting for 1 set consisting of: 7x 2u stabs, 1x 6.25u, 1x 7u?

Whatever it takes to get these.

How many stab sets are you willing to order?

See above.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 06 January 2016, 14:35:11
What kind of pricing are people expecting for 1 set consisting of: 7x 2u stabs, 1x 6.25u, 1x 7u?

Whatever it takes to get these.

How many stab sets are you willing to order?

See above.

Not really helpful, unless you're ready to buy hundreds of sets yourself. :p
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 06 January 2016, 14:37:56
What kind of pricing are people expecting for 1 set consisting of: 7x 2u stabs, 1x 6.25u, 1x 7u?

Whatever it takes to get these.

How many stab sets are you willing to order?

See above.

Not really helpful

Sorry.  :-[

Come on, peeps!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Wed, 06 January 2016, 14:47:37
What kind of pricing are people expecting for 1 set consisting of: 7x 2u stabs, 1x 6.25u, 1x 7u?

Whatever it takes to get these.

How many stab sets are you willing to order?

See above.

Not really helpful, unless you're ready to buy hundreds of sets yourself.
As a minimum, I'd be willing to buy a minimum of 5 at about $20 per set. At most, I'd be willing to pay about $30 for five sets, and if it's less, I'd definitely be willing to purchase more!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 07 January 2016, 16:03:50
Dang. I was super excited about this.  :'(

Well, I just got my quotes in for moulds and stab prices... It's doable depending on pricing. What kind of pricing are people expecting for 1 set consisting of: 7x 2u stabs, 1x 6.25u, 1x 7u? How many stab sets are you willing to order?

*please note that stabs may either be translucent white or transparent clear depending on the final result.

I'm willing to buy 3 sets.  I would buy more but just can't right now.  It does seem like there are always people looking for stabs, but the supply comes in fits and starts.  Specifically the 6.25u.  Having a reputable store stock them regularly would help a lot of people I think.  Where could we find such a store???? :D
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 07 January 2016, 19:39:47
Update:

Even though half of me says it's not wise to go through with this project, the other half of me wants to see it come to fruition. I've decided to make it happen along with another project I'm working on. Stabs will be fully transparent. Q3 2016 - Prepare your wallets :P

Tentative GB date: July-August 2016.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Thu, 07 January 2016, 19:54:13
Update:

Even though half of me says it's not wise to go through with this project, the other half of me wants to see it come to fruition. I've decided to make it happen along with another project I'm working on. Stabs will be fully transparent. Q3 2016 - Prepare your wallets

Tentative GB date: July-August 2016.
Awesome! If it'll be that late, you can up my order to 8+ sets!

I didn't realize it would be happening that late, so this will give me time to save up
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 07 January 2016, 20:09:57
Update:

Even though half of me says it's not wise to go through with this project, the other half of me wants to see it come to fruition. I've decided to make it happen along with another project I'm working on. Stabs will be fully transparent. Q3 2016 - Prepare your wallets :P

Tentative GB date: July-August 2016.

Yeeeeeesssssshhhhhh
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 07 January 2016, 20:16:52
Well, it seems that Gateron is unwilling to produce stabs in transparent plastic, only in white/milky due to a few reasons. Also given the lack of response, it wouldn't be ideal to create two new moulds for a single run. :(

Time to work on Zealio-S (which will definitely happen).

What's zealio-s? zealio r2?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Thu, 07 January 2016, 20:46:54
Well, it seems that Gateron is unwilling to produce stabs in transparent plastic, only in white/milky due to a few reasons. Also given the lack of response, it wouldn't be ideal to create two new moulds for a single run. :(

Time to work on Zealio-S (which will definitely happen).

What's zealio-s? zealio r2?
It's a project that, as I'm aware, has not been officially unveiled!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 13 January 2016, 23:38:01
Well, it seems that Gateron is unwilling to produce stabs in transparent plastic, only in white/milky due to a few reasons. Also given the lack of response, it wouldn't be ideal to create two new moulds for a single run. :(

Time to work on Zealio-S (which will definitely happen).

What's zealio-s? zealio r2?
It's a project that, as I'm aware, has not been officially unveiled!!!

^^^ Project that hasn't been revealed yet. :P

Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Thu, 14 January 2016, 00:01:59
Well, it seems that Gateron is unwilling to produce stabs in transparent plastic, only in white/milky due to a few reasons. Also given the lack of response, it wouldn't be ideal to create two new moulds for a single run. :(

Time to work on Zealio-S (which will definitely happen).

What's zealio-s? zealio r2?
It's a project that, as I'm aware, has not been officially unveiled!!!

^^^ Project that hasn't been revealed yet.
Any eta for the unveiling?! The suspense is killing me!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 14 January 2016, 14:10:58
Well, it seems that Gateron is unwilling to produce stabs in transparent plastic, only in white/milky due to a few reasons. Also given the lack of response, it wouldn't be ideal to create two new moulds for a single run. :(

Time to work on Zealio-S (which will definitely happen).

What's zealio-s? zealio r2?
It's a project that, as I'm aware, has not been officially unveiled!!!

^^^ Project that hasn't been revealed yet.
Any eta for the unveiling?! The suspense is killing me!

Hopefully Q3 of 2016.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 14 January 2016, 14:18:18
Well, it seems that Gateron is unwilling to produce stabs in transparent plastic, only in white/milky due to a few reasons. Also given the lack of response, it wouldn't be ideal to create two new moulds for a single run. :(

Time to work on Zealio-S (which will definitely happen).

What's zealio-s? zealio r2?
It's a project that, as I'm aware, has not been officially unveiled!!!

^^^ Project that hasn't been revealed yet.
Any eta for the unveiling?! The suspense is killing me!

Hopefully Q3 of 2016.

Nice!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Thu, 14 January 2016, 16:35:49
Well, it seems that Gateron is unwilling to produce stabs in transparent plastic, only in white/milky due to a few reasons. Also given the lack of response, it wouldn't be ideal to create two new moulds for a single run. :(

Time to work on Zealio-S (which will definitely happen).

What's zealio-s? zealio r2?
It's a project that, as I'm aware, has not been officially unveiled!!!

^^^ Project that hasn't been revealed yet.
Any eta for the unveiling?! The suspense is killing me!

Hopefully Q3 of 2016.
But that's so far away!!! oh well. I suppose I could wait...
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Dodgy on Thu, 14 January 2016, 16:49:50
Clear sliders!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 17 January 2016, 21:11:29
When this happens, I'll buy some. Will make for a really great looking RGB board.   ;D

At least once a RGB 60% custom board becomes available...
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Steezus on Sun, 17 January 2016, 21:12:27
When this happens, I'll buy some. Will make for a really great looking RGB board.

Well, it seems that Gateron is unwilling to produce stabs in transparent plastic, only in white/milky due to a few reasons. Also given the lack of response, it wouldn't be ideal to create two new moulds for a single run. :(
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 17 January 2016, 21:14:38
Update:

Even though half of me says it's not wise to go through with this project, the other half of me wants to see it come to fruition. I've decided to make it happen along with another project I'm working on. Stabs will be fully transparent. Q3 2016 - Prepare your wallets :P

Tentative GB date: July-August 2016.

there is still hope
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Steezus on Sun, 17 January 2016, 21:15:53
Update:

Even though half of me says it's not wise to go through with this project, the other half of me wants to see it come to fruition. I've decided to make it happen along with another project I'm working on. Stabs will be fully transparent. Q3 2016 - Prepare your wallets :P

Tentative GB date: July-August 2016.

there is still hope

My bad didn't actually see that, some hope but don't want to get myself hyped up for it.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 17 January 2016, 21:32:43
My bad didn't actually see that, some hope but don't want to get myself hyped up for it.

No worries. It's restrained excitement for me, but if someone can get it done it's Zeal.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: jaffers on Sun, 17 January 2016, 21:39:07
yes plz count me in for a few sets maybe 6
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: DukeMugen on Mon, 18 January 2016, 00:22:58
5 SETS!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Hellcatz on Mon, 18 January 2016, 01:15:52
I will be down for a few sets
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: chilldude_22 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 19:48:04
Working on an all-clear Gon build and neeeeed these ASAP!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 19:56:06
removed.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 14 February 2016, 10:12:24
I'm interested.  Don't really care about transparency or whether they are screwed or not (just that it will work on all boards) (the preclipped feature is a nice timesaver though), what interests me is that they are smoother than modern stabs. 


Has anyone thought of a way to reduce or eliminate stab ringing too? It's especially nasty with a heavier spring under a 7u spacebar.

What's stab ringing?  I don't notice any of that on my boards.   
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: cjhard on Sun, 14 February 2016, 10:34:37
I get it pretty bad on my 7u spacebar w/ PCB mount stabs w/ heavier spring, and it's worse when I flip the spacebar. Just tap on the spacebar a couple times, if it sounds clattery, that's what I'm calling stab ringing.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 14 February 2016, 10:59:32
I get it pretty bad on my 7u spacebar w/ PCB mount stabs w/ heavier spring, and it's worse when I flip the spacebar. Just tap on the spacebar a couple times, if it sounds clattery, that's what I'm calling stab ringing.

I don't notice it.  I use o-rings and lube the stabs, maybe that has an effect. My heaviest spring is 67g.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 01 March 2016, 10:55:27
Clears with a preference for screw-in ones. But fine either way.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: evangs on Tue, 01 March 2016, 14:14:29
would there be an option to just get 2 unit stabs or would we only be able to buy full sets?  either way you can put me down for some
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: grav3serker on Wed, 02 March 2016, 01:00:59
My name is grav3serker and I approve Zealio-S :thumb:

(Assuming they are stabilizers)
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 02 March 2016, 02:23:39
My name is grav3serker and I approve Zealio-S :thumb:

(Assuming they are stabilizers)

Zealio-S is another project, haha. Should be released along with the transparent stabilizer project. (thumb)
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: grav3serker on Wed, 02 March 2016, 02:30:31
My name is grav3serker and I approve Zealio-S :thumb:

(Assuming they are stabilizers)

Zealio-S is another project, haha. Should be released along with the transparent stabilizer project. (thumb)
Hype! Haha :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 02 March 2016, 09:23:10
Interested in clear housings and purple sliders, some wires depending on pricing, I have more than enough of all of them but I'd get some if price is good. The only way to see trough and enjoy your slider colors will be having a clear housing.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: jebbra on Thu, 03 March 2016, 08:08:13
Interested! I really just thinking about clear stab after ordering R2 Zealios, and VOILA! here it is, an IC of it.
My cent: please no gold wire, there's no gold (at least no utterly visible besides the Zealios spring) to match it. Just make it a simple usual silver one.

One question: Why it is Cherry one and PCB one? More firm? Cause sliders can be colored to match Zealios Switch?
Somehow I like the easiness of Costar Plate Mounted one.

And I believe Zealios-S is a silencer add-on for switches. Do you have a prize of 70 of them if I'm right?  :p
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: derezzed on Thu, 03 March 2016, 11:04:50
Zealio-S is a tactile hologram.  The reason it won't debut until later this year is because the stem has a non-euclidian geometry that makes it incompatible with all existing keycaps.  Manufacturing keycaps that can fit Zealio-S requires a 5-dimensional injection mold.  Zealio-S are expected to cost 50 cents each.   Because of the unique manufacturing process,  keycaps for Zealio-S are expected to cost $8 - $17 trillion,  each.  I've heard that typing on them produces a sensation of the typist's consciousness resonating with the universe.

About the stabilizers: can they be installed on a prebuilt keyboard without having to desolder the switches and remove the plate? 
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Thu, 03 March 2016, 11:09:16
Zealio-S is a tactile hologram.  The reason it won't debut until later this year is because the stem has a non-euclidian geometry that makes it incompatible with all existing keycaps.  Manufacturing keycaps that can fit Zealio-S requires a 5-dimensional injection mold.  Zealio-S are expected to cost 50 cents each.   Because of the unique manufacturing process,  keycaps for Zealio-S are expected to cost $8 - $17 trillion,  each.  I've heard that typing on them produces a sensation of the typist's consciousness resonating with the universe.

About the stabilizers: can they be installed on a prebuilt keyboard without having to desolder the switches and remove the plate?
Probably not, unless you have a plate like the one that winkeyless uses, which is designed to do that.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: jynxed on Sun, 06 March 2016, 03:15:22
Clear/Semi clear/Milky stabs and purple sliders interest +1 (and will probably be down for at least 3 sets).
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 07 March 2016, 09:28:43
Clear or purple will be just great for zealio switches as many have mentioned.  :thumb:

EDIT: I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: kasakka on Sun, 24 April 2016, 03:50:23
Would these be less loose, noisy and wobbly compared to Cherry stabillizers? Because that's really what we need for stabilizers.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 24 April 2016, 08:41:07
Any updates on this?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 24 April 2016, 11:12:02
Any updates on this?

Working on it.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 24 April 2016, 17:50:39
Any updates on this?

Working on it.

How are you gonna called them? Zealstabs?  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Karura on Mon, 25 April 2016, 03:32:24
Any updates on this?

Working on it.

How are you gonna called them? Zealstabs?  :thumb:

I genuinely cannot possibly imagine that you're being serious.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 25 April 2016, 05:22:14
Any updates on this?

Working on it.

How are you gonna called them? Zealstabs?  :thumb:

I genuinely cannot possibly imagine that you're being serious.


YES, they must be called the new "Zealstabs"  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Mon, 25 April 2016, 09:40:50
Any updates on this?

Working on it.

How are you gonna called them? Zealstabs?  :thumb:

I genuinely cannot possibly imagine that you're being serious.

StabiZeals?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 25 April 2016, 18:52:13
I'd rather go for "Ztabilizers"
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Data on Mon, 25 April 2016, 19:40:59
Zealistraighteners

I'd be down for 3-5 sets if they were clear or nearly so.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Mon, 25 April 2016, 19:47:04
Zeabilizers

Oops, meant Zealbilizers.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: tuco on Mon, 25 April 2016, 19:48:43
Zeabilizers

Oops, meant Zealbilizers.

Its got a ring to it.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: VentureG on Mon, 25 April 2016, 20:36:45
Stabilizealers

Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 25 April 2016, 21:05:05
removed.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: timerwin63 on Tue, 26 April 2016, 02:02:56
I'd be down for 3-4 sets if the were clear housings, purple stems, and gold wires, like the switches. I personally love the colors and would love my entire board to be decked out like it.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Data on Tue, 26 April 2016, 09:59:44
Ztabilizers

Zealio Companion Off-axis Balance Regulating Apparatus
- ZCOBRA -
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Vypr on Wed, 25 May 2016, 23:59:08
I'm interested in this :D
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 26 May 2016, 00:08:07
Ztabilizers

Zealio Companion Off-axis Balance Regulating Apparatus
- ZCOBRA -

It'd make a good patent's title; if only, they weren't already in production and sharing a very dated design.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: grav3serker on Thu, 26 May 2016, 01:45:19
+1 for Ztabilizers
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: eyesmiles on Thu, 26 May 2016, 03:34:53
Not certain, but were you aware of these Zeal?

https://world.taobao.com/item/531728803172.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w4002-8496744310.54.eactUt

Not the screw in type though.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 26 May 2016, 04:47:36

Not certain, but were you aware of these Zeal?

https://world.taobao.com/item/531728803172.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w4002-8496744310.54.eactUt

Not the screw in type though.

Link doesn't seem to work.
For me at least...
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: krisst on Thu, 26 May 2016, 05:03:10

Not certain, but were you aware of these Zeal?

https://world.taobao.com/item/531728803172.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w4002-8496744310.54.eactUt

Not the screw in type though.

Link doesn't seem to work.
For me at least...

How about pictures of them instead. I posted these on MD VE.A thread. They do matches Zealios very well. Zeal replied on MD that he have his own version coming soon.

(http://i.imgur.com/fjoujFv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/io4Ktyy.jpg)

Anyways I ordered some to check them out.
https://world.taobao.com/item/531797261669.htm
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 26 May 2016, 07:15:32
The "new" version will have screws?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 26 May 2016, 09:46:54
couldn't really care less how the stabs look, they are under the caps, are these new stabs smoother however?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 26 May 2016, 09:49:41
Huh. Might order some from TaoBao for kicks and giggles.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Khuya on Sun, 29 May 2016, 15:33:39
hey Zeal, have you consider transparent stem yet?  would that something be in the future?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 29 May 2016, 16:36:01
hey Zeal, have you consider transparent stem yet?  would that something be in the future?

A transparent switch stem isn't possible as transparent POM doesn't exist. Any other material wouldn't be as smooth.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ika on Sun, 29 May 2016, 16:40:09
Apparently the Taobao ones that just came out are louder than regular cherry stabs, plus the wires that come with them rattle like hell. Not worth.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Data on Sun, 29 May 2016, 17:11:27
Apparently the Taobao ones that just came out are louder than regular cherry stabs, plus the wires that come with them rattle like hell. Not worth.

Already purchased 2 full sets.  I'll report my findings when they arrive in a few weeks -- they should ship in the next couple days.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Sun, 29 May 2016, 17:23:34
I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 07 June 2016, 20:04:36
bump. Progress update.

The taobao ones are very likely made out of polycarbonate. That material isn't optimal for smoothness and produces high pitched clacking sounds. Just looking at the surface, you can tell it's made from a very rough mould. No competition.

I just returned from a trip to Gateron and the transparent stabs are underway. ETA: 50 days until mould completion.

What will it look like?
-Screw in style PCB Mount
-Vintage "U" shape "factory-clipped" feet (since it's U shape, no more confusing which way the stab wire enters)
-Fully transparent nylon housing
-24k gold plated stabilizer wires in 2x, 6.25x, 7x.
-Gold plated screws

I need a new name for these stabilizers. :(

Project #2 will be released when stabilizers are out too.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 07 June 2016, 20:12:46
Screw in, ...,  yes!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: switchnollie on Tue, 07 June 2016, 20:16:20
Sweet ;D

For sure getting some to replace the ones in my B. Face :)
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Data on Tue, 07 June 2016, 20:25:41
bump. Progress update.

The taobao ones are very likely made out of polycarbonate. That material isn't optimal for smoothness and produces high pitched clacking sounds. Just looking at the surface, you can tell it's made from a very rough mould. No competition.

I just returned from a trip to Gateron and the transparent stabs are underway. ETA: 50 days until mould completion.

What will it look like?
-Screw in style PCB Mount
-Vintage "U" shape "factory-clipped" feet (since it's U shape, no more confusing which way the stab wire enters)
-Fully transparent nylon housing
-24k gold plated stabilizer wires in 2x, 6.25x, 7x.
-Gold plated screws

I need a new name for these stabilizers. :(

Project #2 will be released when stabilizers are out too.

Still waiting for my Taobao order.  I'll dream about these in the meantime.   :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 07 June 2016, 20:47:47
I need a new name for these stabilizers. :(

Ztabilizers. Ztabs for short.

Project #2 will be released when stabilizers are out too.

:-X
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 08 June 2016, 00:12:04
Looking forward to getting some!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 08 June 2016, 00:47:18
Okay, that is great. No way I can get these to work with plates? I take it no other housings will be made?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 08 June 2016, 00:56:03
Okay, that is great. No way I can get these to work with plates? I take it no other housings will be made?

Who uses plate mounted stabilizers?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 08 June 2016, 00:58:27
Okay, that is great. No way I can get these to work with plates? I take it no other housings will be made?

Who uses plate mounted stabilizers?  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 08 June 2016, 06:17:17
ETA: 50 days until mould completion.

Damn, now I have to evaluate if it is worth waiting with my build to use these, or if I should just go and desolder everything once these are available... decisions, decisions, decisions
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 08 June 2016, 06:40:37
bump. Progress update.

The taobao ones are very likely made out of polycarbonate. That material isn't optimal for smoothness and produces high pitched clacking sounds. Just looking at the surface, you can tell it's made from a very rough mould. No competition.

I just returned from a trip to Gateron and the transparent stabs are underway. ETA: 50 days until mould completion.

What will it look like?
-Screw in style PCB Mount
-Vintage "U" shape "factory-clipped" feet (since it's U shape, no more confusing which way the stab wire enters)
-Fully transparent nylon housing
-24k gold plated stabilizer wires in 2x, 6.25x, 7x.
-Gold plated screws

I need a new name for these stabilizers. :(

Project #2 will be released when stabilizers are out too.

will these have a smoother travel than the cherry stabs?  I think that in the current state cherry stabs affect the feel of switch quite significantly, in a bad way, I wonder if this can be improved upon. 

project 2 = zeal gmk qmx clip for plate mount?  and if yes would it affect keytravel at all?  I use o-rings because i think 4mm is super long so that would be cool if you could change travel with it.  And will that be released at the same time as the stabs?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: jebbra on Wed, 08 June 2016, 10:17:16
Are this "old style sliders" compatible with usual PCB like GH60/Satan/Sentraq/GoN? I mean the screw-in part. Also would like to know the real difference with current Cherry Stabs which I feel quite sucks.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 08 June 2016, 16:55:40
will these have a smoother travel than the cherry stabs?  I think that in the current state cherry stabs affect the feel of switch quite significantly, in a bad way, I wonder if this can be improved upon. 


Yes, the travel will definitely be smoother.

Are this "old style sliders" compatible with usual PCB like GH60/Satan/Sentraq/GoN? I mean the screw-in part. Also would like to know the real difference with current Cherry Stabs which I feel quite sucks.

Yes, old style sliders / screw in style are compatible with all the current generation custom PCBs. The only difference is they come with a flat base, so no more clipping required, and instead of 2 push out plastic pins that sometimes dislodge, you can now screw in the stabilizer.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Wed, 08 June 2016, 17:06:11
Awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: tuco on Wed, 08 June 2016, 19:26:46
Awesome!

My sentiments exactly!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: jebbra on Thu, 09 June 2016, 02:34:43
Yes, old style sliders / screw in style are compatible with all the current generation custom PCBs. The only difference is they come with a flat base, so no more clipping required, and instead of 2 push out plastic pins that sometimes dislodge, you can now screw in the stabilizer.

Sounds promising, 50 days until GB? At the same time with my Sentraq drop then. Seems like my stabs choice will go on this ZeStabs. Waiting for GB announcement  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ntw on Thu, 09 June 2016, 02:51:48
zeal here are some pictures of the transparent stabilizers from taobao.

the stems have the  U-shaped feet but they are not screw in type. aside from that they are loud (without tuning)

(http://i.imgur.com/gtnfmI6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KvBtmVg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jsp8gDt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/cEN04b3.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 09 June 2016, 04:28:21
Thanks for the video, ntw. Seeing the stabilizers stand all the way up without any grease or tuning is not good...Stabilizers should be able to fall down on its own.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ntw on Thu, 09 June 2016, 09:31:34
Thanks for the video, ntw. Seeing the stabilizers stand all the way up without any grease or tuning is not good...Stabilizers should be able to fall down on its own.
true. can't wait for the zealstabs  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: krisst on Sat, 11 June 2016, 12:38:34
Zeal, any updates on when your transparent cherry stabby will be available? I have ordered some R3 zealios, would be best if the stabby can be shipped together. In any case, hope will be on sale before VE.A ship. Plan to use them for it.

Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 11 June 2016, 12:41:41
Zeal, any updates on when your transparent cherry stabby will be available? I have ordered some R3 zealios, would be best if the stabby can be shipped together. In any case, hope will be on sale before VE.A ship. Plan to use them for it.

Thank you.

If you read up a bit it'll be 50 days before the moulds are even done.

It'll be a while before the stabs are even ready to be sold.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: krisst on Sat, 11 June 2016, 14:04:54
Zeal, any updates on when your transparent cherry stabby will be available? I have ordered some R3 zealios, would be best if the stabby can be shipped together. In any case, hope will be on sale before VE.A ship. Plan to use them for it.

Thank you.

If you read up a bit it'll be 50 days before the moulds are even done.

It'll be a while before the stabs are even ready to be sold.

Thanks, 50 days to get molds done is a little long. Oh well, hope it will be on sale soon.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 12 June 2016, 03:27:30
Just got an updated 3D render of my stabilizers... Looks very promising, addresses the issues present on both clip and screw type stabilizers.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: joey on Sun, 12 June 2016, 03:30:02
The screw in types *need* to be screwed in, right?

Do they come pre-band-aided? :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ntw on Mon, 13 June 2016, 10:12:43
any idea if the Massdrop ones are the same as the ones I bought from Taobao??

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/transparent-stabilizer-pack
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Mon, 13 June 2016, 10:13:50
any idea if the Massdrop ones are the same as the ones I bought from Taobao??

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/transparent-stabilizer-pack

Most likely, but that's because I don't recall any other source of clear stabilizers other than those and the ones Zeal is planning, which of course haven't been made yet.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Mon, 13 June 2016, 16:32:16
any idea if the Massdrop ones are the same as the ones I bought from Taobao??

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/transparent-stabilizer-pack

Most likely, but that's because I don't recall any other source of clear stabilizers other than those and the ones Zeal is planning, which of course haven't been made yet.
Just saw those on massdrop and got excited. Then I read bad things about it and followed the trail to here.
Then I discovered this was cherry and PCB only.
I cry.
No love for hand wired projects with simple costar plates.
I'm fine with white ones too, but nobody outside of taobao sells them, and I don't know their quality.
Anyone point me in the right direction? Or help me beg for plate version?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 13 June 2016, 16:40:31
There are rumors on pricing of these stabilizers at Massdrop, is there any tentative price yet?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 13 June 2016, 22:02:52
The ones on Massdrop do look like the poorly made ones on Taobao. Seeing the stabilizer pull all the way up and not fall down makes me cringe. :/

No comment on pricing yet. The process to make my stabilizers isn't a simple one, is all I can say. Remember, it addresses issues present on clip in and screw in type stabilizers.

Won't be showing the render yet, but will in the future.

Packs will most likely be sold as follows:

7x 2u
1x 6.25u
1x 7u wire

All wires 24k gold plated.

Total 8 sets of stabilizer housing & inserts, 7x 2u wires, 1x 6.25u wire, 1x 7u wire.

Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 13 June 2016, 22:33:03
Thank you for the feedback Zeal, I think the information is more than enough for now; besides, being aware that the rumors at MD about your pricing are just that is also good. I will certainly wait for yours any time. PCB mount clear ones with screws and pre-clipped stabilizers will be the best ones.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 13 June 2016, 22:37:04
The ones on Massdrop do look like the poorly made ones on Taobao. Seeing the stabilizer pull all the way up and not fall down makes me cringe. :/

No comment on pricing yet. The process to make my stabilizers isn't a simple one, is all I can say. Remember, it addresses issues present on clip in and screw in type stabilizers.

Won't be showing the render yet, but will in the future.

Packs will most likely be sold as follows:

7x 2u
1x 6.25u
1x 7u wire

All wires 24k gold plated.

Total 8 sets of stabilizer housing & inserts, 7x 2u wires, 1x 6.25u wire, 1x 7u wire.

It'd be cool to see 6u added to that list given that GMK are making 6u spacebars now and EnjoyPBT already makes them.

Regardless I'm looking forward to these ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 14 June 2016, 04:02:29
The ones on Massdrop do look like the poorly made ones on Taobao. Seeing the stabilizer pull all the way up and not fall down makes me cringe. :/

No comment on pricing yet. The process to make my stabilizers isn't a simple one, is all I can say. Remember, it addresses issues present on clip in and screw in type stabilizers.

Won't be showing the render yet, but will in the future.

Packs will most likely be sold as follows:

7x 2u
1x 6.25u
1x 7u wire

All wires 24k gold plated.

Total 8 sets of stabilizer housing & inserts, 7x 2u wires, 1x 6.25u wire, 1x 7u wire.

It'd be cool to see 6u added to that list given that GMK are making 6u spacebars now and EnjoyPBT already makes them.

Regardless I'm looking forward to these ;D

6u is definitely possible, but only a very small fraction of users would use 6u off centered spacebars.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zorox on Tue, 14 June 2016, 04:45:56
I am really one of your big followers now Zeal, and of course I back this up for my upcoming custom projects!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Tue, 14 June 2016, 07:40:16
The ones on Massdrop do look like the poorly made ones on Taobao. Seeing the stabilizer pull all the way up and not fall down makes me cringe. :/

No comment on pricing yet. The process to make my stabilizers isn't a simple one, is all I can say. Remember, it addresses issues present on clip in and screw in type stabilizers.

Won't be showing the render yet, but will in the future.

Packs will most likely be sold as follows:

7x 2u
1x 6.25u
1x 7u wire

All wires 24k gold plated.

Total 8 sets of stabilizer housing & inserts, 7x 2u wires, 1x 6.25u wire, 1x 7u wire.

It'd be cool to see 6u added to that list given that GMK are making 6u spacebars now and EnjoyPBT already makes them.

Regardless I'm looking forward to these ;D

6u is definitely possible, but only a very small fraction of users would use 6u off centered spacebars.

6u space bars cannot be flipped; that is a sacrilege.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: effectiveduck on Wed, 15 June 2016, 03:18:29

6u is definitely possible, but only a very small fraction of users would use 6u off centered spacebars.

Yea that's fair, I feel like there will be a bigger market for them in the future but for now there wouldn't be many buyers.


6u space bars cannot be flipped; that is a sacrilege.

Exactly :p
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ctrlX on Fri, 17 June 2016, 12:48:35
Is there any rough estimate when the GB will take place? I apologise if this has been asked before. Browsed back a couple of pages and didn't see any post regarding this.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 17 June 2016, 13:48:41
Is there any rough estimate when the GB will take place? I apologise if this has been asked before. Browsed back a couple of pages and didn't see any post regarding this.

Gonna be at least 2 months as the molds take 50 days.

I'd imagine Zeal will need to check the stabs after the molds are done before production so that will be another couple of weeks at minimum.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Data on Fri, 17 June 2016, 14:03:35
Yeah this will be like a Fall/Winter GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ctrlX on Fri, 17 June 2016, 14:46:49
Ah. Thanks for the info. Then I know I have to order other stabs for the upcoming build.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: krisst on Tue, 05 July 2016, 07:09:15
Hey Zeal, as the R3 groupbuy is about done. Any updates for these stabs? Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 05 July 2016, 13:32:59
Hey Zeal, as the R3 groupbuy is about done. Any updates for these stabs? Thanks!

Still waiting on the moulds to finish. These moulds aren't CNC'd, but rather made via EDM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_discharge_machining
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: krisst on Tue, 05 July 2016, 13:38:15
Hey Zeal, as the R3 groupbuy is about done. Any updates for these stabs? Thanks!

Still waiting on the moulds to finish. These moulds aren't CNC'd, but rather made via EDM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_discharge_machining

I remember EDM, back when I am still in school. XD

Alright then. Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: mind_funeral on Thu, 21 July 2016, 09:48:16
Any updates on these?  I got a project on hold waiting for these! :)
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Purp on Thu, 21 July 2016, 11:14:00
Any updates on these?  I got a project on hold waiting for these! :)

I'm in the same situation, hoping for a soonish release.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: BAS1C on Thu, 21 July 2016, 12:04:03
Holy dang! In for these Zeal. Your work amazes me! Looks like my zz96 is going to be Zeal'd to the nines.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 21 July 2016, 15:42:26
Moulds are done, pre-production pictures have been sent to me. A few tweaks are being made, and I'm really excited to show all the new stuff! :)
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 21 July 2016, 16:10:41
nice

Can't wait to put these in my board :)
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Purp on Thu, 21 July 2016, 17:45:21
Moulds are done, pre-production pictures have been sent to me. A few tweaks are being made, and I'm really excited to show all the new stuff! :)

Super cool thanks for the little update, did they provide any new ETA?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 21 July 2016, 17:48:42
Glad to hear about progress.

I've been assembling some aristotle stems in 65g zealios and hot damn these are great, looking forward to building them with these stabilizers.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: nugglets on Thu, 21 July 2016, 18:02:56
Moulds are done, pre-production pictures have been sent to me. A few tweaks are being made, and I'm really excited to show all the new stuff! :)

Super cool thanks for the little update, did they provide any new ETA?

Zeal mentioned elsewhere that there will be 3 new projects and R4 zealios launching in August. Have to assume these are one of the projects, along with the RGB 60% he mentioned and probably his version of the QMX clips.

When in August is anyone's guess.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 21 July 2016, 18:50:38
Is there a target price for the sets of stabs?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 22 July 2016, 10:28:59
Moulds are done, pre-production pictures have been sent to me. A few tweaks are being made, and I'm really excited to show all the new stuff! :)

Super cool thanks for the little update, did they provide any new ETA?


Hopefully have samples in my hands by the end of the month/early August.

Glad to hear about progress.

I've been assembling some aristotle stems in 65g zealios and hot damn these are great, looking forward to building them with these stabilizers.

Yeah...65g Zealiostotles are out of the world.

Moulds are done, pre-production pictures have been sent to me. A few tweaks are being made, and I'm really excited to show all the new stuff! :)

Super cool thanks for the little update, did they provide any new ETA?

Zeal mentioned elsewhere that there will be 3 new projects and R4 zealios launching in August. Have to assume these are one of the projects, along with the RGB 60% he mentioned and probably his version of the QMX clips.

When in August is anyone's guess.

;)

Is there a target price for the sets of stabs?

Pictures say a thousand words...Will wait to get samples on my hands to show everyone before I comment on price.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 22 July 2016, 10:37:39
Will Aristotles make a comeback?
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 22 July 2016, 10:42:22
Will Aristotles make a comeback?

A remade version won't, but I'm securing a last batch of NOS Aristotles as we speak...
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 22 July 2016, 10:43:28
Will Aristotles make a comeback?

A remade version won't, but I'm securing a last batch of NOS Aristotles as we speak...

NOS Aristotles would be dandy.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 22 July 2016, 11:59:12
Showing the thing before the asking price is a good marketing practice.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: shangrila500 on Sat, 23 July 2016, 18:58:30
Will Aristotles make a comeback?

A remade version won't, but I'm securing a last batch of NOS Aristotles as we speak...

Any idea when they might be available to purchase? I keep hearing great things about Aristotles and keep having an urge to try them!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 23 July 2016, 19:11:34
Will Aristotles make a comeback?

A remade version won't, but I'm securing a last batch of NOS Aristotles as we speak...

Any idea when they might be available to purchase? I keep hearing great things about Aristotles and keep having an urge to try them!

It's only great in Zealio housings. :P

Will announce when I get Aristotles in.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 23 July 2016, 19:16:30
Will Aristotles make a comeback?

A remade version won't, but I'm securing a last batch of NOS Aristotles as we speak...

Any idea when they might be available to purchase? I keep hearing great things about Aristotles and keep having an urge to try them!

It's only great in Zealio housings. :p

Will announce when I get Aristotles in.

Mm! Should those interested parties save a little fortune to get some? Maybe with one kidney? LOL.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: shangrila500 on Sat, 23 July 2016, 20:53:48
Will Aristotles make a comeback?

A remade version won't, but I'm securing a last batch of NOS Aristotles as we speak...

Any idea when they might be available to purchase? I keep hearing great things about Aristotles and keep having an urge to try them!

It's only great in Zealio housings. :P

Will announce when I get Aristotles in.

Good thing I bought plenty of Zealios in the last GB!

BTW, your shipping is AMAZING! I really don't mind paying extra for it because I know for a fact that it will be here the next day. I absolutely LOVE it! I just wish you had more LED colors and some Gateron Greens in stock right now...
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 24 July 2016, 01:34:04
Will Aristotles make a comeback?

A remade version won't, but I'm securing a last batch of NOS Aristotles as we speak...

Any idea when they might be available to purchase? I keep hearing great things about Aristotles and keep having an urge to try them!

It's only great in Zealio housings. :P

Will announce when I get Aristotles in.

Good thing I bought plenty of Zealios in the last GB!

BTW, your shipping is AMAZING! I really don't mind paying extra for it because I know for a fact that it will be here the next day. I absolutely LOVE it! I just wish you had more LED colors and some Gateron Greens in stock right now...

Thanks! :D I also love overnight express deliveries...I get spoiled when I use it to import stuff haha.

I've got most of the available 1.8mm colour variants in stock. Don't really have plans on stocking stock Gaterons for now, as many other vendors already do.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: shangrila500 on Mon, 25 July 2016, 00:17:46
Will Aristotles make a comeback?

A remade version won't, but I'm securing a last batch of NOS Aristotles as we speak...

Any idea when they might be available to purchase? I keep hearing great things about Aristotles and keep having an urge to try them!

It's only great in Zealio housings. :P

Will announce when I get Aristotles in.

Good thing I bought plenty of Zealios in the last GB!

BTW, your shipping is AMAZING! I really don't mind paying extra for it because I know for a fact that it will be here the next day. I absolutely LOVE it! I just wish you had more LED colors and some Gateron Greens in stock right now...

Thanks! :D I also love overnight express deliveries...I get spoiled when I use it to import stuff haha.

I've got most of the available 1.8mm colour variants in stock. Don't really have plans on stocking stock Gaterons for now, as many other vendors already do.

It is just amazing, I have ordered from you 3 times so far and it has already spoiled me so much that watching my keycap pullers shipping from Massdrop is driving me up the wall!

I looked for LEDs last week when I ordered some stabs and you were out of a lot then. I may have been looking at the wrong sizes too though, it was late at night and I was tired so my memory is foggy!

A lot of places do stock them but they are almost always out of the clear top green and blues. OriginativeCo has blues but no greens and 1up has the milky Gaterons in green and blue but they are out of stock of everything with clear tops or I would order from them. The only place that has them in stock is Winkeyless. I am just wanting you to carry them so I can have everything in one place!

Are there any other places that are in NA that stock the clear top Gaterons? I am fairly new so I am unfamiliar with all the different vendors.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: MandrewDavis on Mon, 25 July 2016, 01:36:54
Keep up the good work Zeal, looking forward to all the new items!

A lot of places do stock them but they are almost always out of the clear top green and blues. OriginativeCo has blues but no greens and 1up has the milky Gaterons in green and blue but they are out of stock of everything with clear tops or I would order from them. The only place that has them in stock is Winkeyless. I am just wanting you to carry them so I can have everything in one place!

Are there any other places that are in NA that stock the clear top Gaterons? I am fairly new so I am unfamiliar with all the different vendors.

I have had a great experience with SwitchTop.co (http://www.switchtop.co/) for small, misc orders of switches and stabs. Its also nice that they stock alu feet.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: shangrila500 on Thu, 28 July 2016, 00:40:20
Keep up the good work Zeal, looking forward to all the new items!

A lot of places do stock them but they are almost always out of the clear top green and blues. OriginativeCo has blues but no greens and 1up has the milky Gaterons in green and blue but they are out of stock of everything with clear tops or I would order from them. The only place that has them in stock is Winkeyless. I am just wanting you to carry them so I can have everything in one place!

Are there any other places that are in NA that stock the clear top Gaterons? I am fairly new so I am unfamiliar with all the different vendors.

I have had a great experience with SwitchTop.co (http://www.switchtop.co/) for small, misc orders of switches and stabs. Its also nice that they stock alu feet.

Thanks for the heads up! That may be where I end up buying from unless I end up buying a numpad from winkeyless this coming up month (which I very well do!). Thank you for the link, this will come in handy in the future!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: AceRuckus on Thu, 28 July 2016, 22:54:14
Clear stabs please :)
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: japanitrat on Fri, 12 August 2016, 17:31:40
+1, really excited about the upcoming projects!
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Fri, 12 August 2016, 19:18:44
I'd be interested in picking up 6-8 sets.
Title: Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 12 August 2016, 19:34:09
Project is revealed here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83833