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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #100 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 08:41:07 »
Any updates on this?

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #101 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 11:12:02 »
Any updates on this?

Working on it.
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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #102 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 17:50:39 »
Any updates on this?

Working on it.

How are you gonna called them? Zealstabs?  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #103 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 03:32:24 »
Any updates on this?

Working on it.

How are you gonna called them? Zealstabs?  :thumb:

I genuinely cannot possibly imagine that you're being serious.

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #104 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 05:22:14 »
Any updates on this?

Working on it.

How are you gonna called them? Zealstabs?  :thumb:

I genuinely cannot possibly imagine that you're being serious.


YES, they must be called the new "Zealstabs"  :thumb: .

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #105 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 09:40:50 »
Any updates on this?

Working on it.

How are you gonna called them? Zealstabs?  :thumb:

I genuinely cannot possibly imagine that you're being serious.

StabiZeals?

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #106 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 18:52:13 »
I'd rather go for "Ztabilizers"

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #107 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 19:40:59 »
Zealistraighteners

I'd be down for 3-5 sets if they were clear or nearly so.

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #108 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 19:47:04 »
Zeabilizers

Oops, meant Zealbilizers.

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #109 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 19:48:43 »
Zeabilizers

Oops, meant Zealbilizers.

Its got a ring to it.

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #110 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 20:36:45 »
Stabilizealers


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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #111 on: Mon, 25 April 2016, 21:05:05 »
removed.
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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #112 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 02:02:56 »
I'd be down for 3-4 sets if the were clear housings, purple stems, and gold wires, like the switches. I personally love the colors and would love my entire board to be decked out like it.
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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #113 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 09:59:44 »
Ztabilizers

Zealio Companion Off-axis Balance Regulating Apparatus
- ZCOBRA -

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I'm interested in this :D
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Ztabilizers

Zealio Companion Off-axis Balance Regulating Apparatus
- ZCOBRA -

It'd make a good patent's title; if only, they weren't already in production and sharing a very dated design.

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+1 for Ztabilizers

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Not certain, but were you aware of these Zeal?

https://world.taobao.com/item/531728803172.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w4002-8496744310.54.eactUt

Not the screw in type though.

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Not certain, but were you aware of these Zeal?

https://world.taobao.com/item/531728803172.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w4002-8496744310.54.eactUt

Not the screw in type though.

Link doesn't seem to work.
For me at least...

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Not certain, but were you aware of these Zeal?

https://world.taobao.com/item/531728803172.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w4002-8496744310.54.eactUt

Not the screw in type though.

Link doesn't seem to work.
For me at least...

How about pictures of them instead. I posted these on MD VE.A thread. They do matches Zealios very well. Zeal replied on MD that he have his own version coming soon.




Anyways I ordered some to check them out.
https://world.taobao.com/item/531797261669.htm

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The "new" version will have screws?

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couldn't really care less how the stabs look, they are under the caps, are these new stabs smoother however?
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Huh. Might order some from TaoBao for kicks and giggles.

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hey Zeal, have you consider transparent stem yet?  would that something be in the future?

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hey Zeal, have you consider transparent stem yet?  would that something be in the future?

A transparent switch stem isn't possible as transparent POM doesn't exist. Any other material wouldn't be as smooth.
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Apparently the Taobao ones that just came out are louder than regular cherry stabs, plus the wires that come with them rattle like hell. Not worth.

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Apparently the Taobao ones that just came out are louder than regular cherry stabs, plus the wires that come with them rattle like hell. Not worth.

Already purchased 2 full sets.  I'll report my findings when they arrive in a few weeks -- they should ship in the next couple days.

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I'd like to hear your thoughts.

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #128 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 20:04:36 »
bump. Progress update.

The taobao ones are very likely made out of polycarbonate. That material isn't optimal for smoothness and produces high pitched clacking sounds. Just looking at the surface, you can tell it's made from a very rough mould. No competition.

I just returned from a trip to Gateron and the transparent stabs are underway. ETA: 50 days until mould completion.

What will it look like?
-Screw in style PCB Mount
-Vintage "U" shape "factory-clipped" feet (since it's U shape, no more confusing which way the stab wire enters)
-Fully transparent nylon housing
-24k gold plated stabilizer wires in 2x, 6.25x, 7x.
-Gold plated screws

I need a new name for these stabilizers. :(

Project #2 will be released when stabilizers are out too.
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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #129 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 20:12:46 »
Screw in, ...,  yes!

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #130 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 20:16:20 »
Sweet ;D

For sure getting some to replace the ones in my B. Face :)


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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #131 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 20:25:41 »
bump. Progress update.

The taobao ones are very likely made out of polycarbonate. That material isn't optimal for smoothness and produces high pitched clacking sounds. Just looking at the surface, you can tell it's made from a very rough mould. No competition.

I just returned from a trip to Gateron and the transparent stabs are underway. ETA: 50 days until mould completion.

What will it look like?
-Screw in style PCB Mount
-Vintage "U" shape "factory-clipped" feet (since it's U shape, no more confusing which way the stab wire enters)
-Fully transparent nylon housing
-24k gold plated stabilizer wires in 2x, 6.25x, 7x.
-Gold plated screws

I need a new name for these stabilizers. :(

Project #2 will be released when stabilizers are out too.

Still waiting for my Taobao order.  I'll dream about these in the meantime.   :eek:

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #132 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 20:47:47 »
I need a new name for these stabilizers. :(

Ztabilizers. Ztabs for short.

Project #2 will be released when stabilizers are out too.

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #133 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 00:12:04 »
Looking forward to getting some!

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #134 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 00:47:18 »
Okay, that is great. No way I can get these to work with plates? I take it no other housings will be made?

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 00:56:03 »
Okay, that is great. No way I can get these to work with plates? I take it no other housings will be made?

Who uses plate mounted stabilizers?  :rolleyes:
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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #136 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 00:58:27 »
Okay, that is great. No way I can get these to work with plates? I take it no other housings will be made?

Who uses plate mounted stabilizers?  :rolleyes:


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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #137 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 06:17:17 »
ETA: 50 days until mould completion.

Damn, now I have to evaluate if it is worth waiting with my build to use these, or if I should just go and desolder everything once these are available... decisions, decisions, decisions

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #138 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 06:40:37 »
bump. Progress update.

The taobao ones are very likely made out of polycarbonate. That material isn't optimal for smoothness and produces high pitched clacking sounds. Just looking at the surface, you can tell it's made from a very rough mould. No competition.

I just returned from a trip to Gateron and the transparent stabs are underway. ETA: 50 days until mould completion.

What will it look like?
-Screw in style PCB Mount
-Vintage "U" shape "factory-clipped" feet (since it's U shape, no more confusing which way the stab wire enters)
-Fully transparent nylon housing
-24k gold plated stabilizer wires in 2x, 6.25x, 7x.
-Gold plated screws

I need a new name for these stabilizers. :(

Project #2 will be released when stabilizers are out too.

will these have a smoother travel than the cherry stabs?  I think that in the current state cherry stabs affect the feel of switch quite significantly, in a bad way, I wonder if this can be improved upon. 

project 2 = zeal gmk qmx clip for plate mount?  and if yes would it affect keytravel at all?  I use o-rings because i think 4mm is super long so that would be cool if you could change travel with it.  And will that be released at the same time as the stabs?
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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #139 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 10:17:16 »
Are this "old style sliders" compatible with usual PCB like GH60/Satan/Sentraq/GoN? I mean the screw-in part. Also would like to know the real difference with current Cherry Stabs which I feel quite sucks.

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #140 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 16:55:40 »
will these have a smoother travel than the cherry stabs?  I think that in the current state cherry stabs affect the feel of switch quite significantly, in a bad way, I wonder if this can be improved upon. 


Yes, the travel will definitely be smoother.

Are this "old style sliders" compatible with usual PCB like GH60/Satan/Sentraq/GoN? I mean the screw-in part. Also would like to know the real difference with current Cherry Stabs which I feel quite sucks.

Yes, old style sliders / screw in style are compatible with all the current generation custom PCBs. The only difference is they come with a flat base, so no more clipping required, and instead of 2 push out plastic pins that sometimes dislodge, you can now screw in the stabilizer.
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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #141 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 17:06:11 »
Awesome!

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #143 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 02:34:43 »
Yes, old style sliders / screw in style are compatible with all the current generation custom PCBs. The only difference is they come with a flat base, so no more clipping required, and instead of 2 push out plastic pins that sometimes dislodge, you can now screw in the stabilizer.

Sounds promising, 50 days until GB? At the same time with my Sentraq drop then. Seems like my stabs choice will go on this ZeStabs. Waiting for GB announcement  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #144 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 02:51:48 »
zeal here are some pictures of the transparent stabilizers from taobao.

the stems have the  U-shaped feet but they are not screw in type. aside from that they are loud (without tuning)









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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #145 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 04:28:21 »
Thanks for the video, ntw. Seeing the stabilizers stand all the way up without any grease or tuning is not good...Stabilizers should be able to fall down on its own.
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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #146 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 09:31:34 »
Thanks for the video, ntw. Seeing the stabilizers stand all the way up without any grease or tuning is not good...Stabilizers should be able to fall down on its own.
true. can't wait for the zealstabs  :cool:
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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #147 on: Sat, 11 June 2016, 12:38:34 »
Zeal, any updates on when your transparent cherry stabby will be available? I have ordered some R3 zealios, would be best if the stabby can be shipped together. In any case, hope will be on sale before VE.A ship. Plan to use them for it.

Thank you.

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #148 on: Sat, 11 June 2016, 12:41:41 »
Zeal, any updates on when your transparent cherry stabby will be available? I have ordered some R3 zealios, would be best if the stabby can be shipped together. In any case, hope will be on sale before VE.A ship. Plan to use them for it.

Thank you.

If you read up a bit it'll be 50 days before the moulds are even done.

It'll be a while before the stabs are even ready to be sold.

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Re: [IC] Transparent Cherry PCB Mount Stabs (pre-clipped, old style sliders)
« Reply #149 on: Sat, 11 June 2016, 14:04:54 »
Zeal, any updates on when your transparent cherry stabby will be available? I have ordered some R3 zealios, would be best if the stabby can be shipped together. In any case, hope will be on sale before VE.A ship. Plan to use them for it.

Thank you.

If you read up a bit it'll be 50 days before the moulds are even done.

It'll be a while before the stabs are even ready to be sold.

Thanks, 50 days to get molds done is a little long. Oh well, hope it will be on sale soon.