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Title: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | PROTOTYPE SHOWCASE
Post by: jasonlee on Sat, 19 December 2020, 16:40:56
Hello Geekhackers!

We are Marrowss - a passionate team of mechanical keycap addicts from Scandinavia (http://Marrowss.com (http://Marrowss.com)). This is our very first time showcasing our products on Geekhack. We got inspiration from the very classic Disney series: Pirates of the Caribbean. Look forward to receiving feedback from you guys!
Our design team's focus is to create the best usage experience, whether it is the aesthetic side of the product, its texture or the material used, all dedicated to our future customers. Apart from designing our own set, we choose to go to great lengths to challenge ourselves and commit ourselves to high quality and affordable keycap sets by establishing a manufacturing plant for keycaps (thekeycapfactory.info (http://thekeycapfactory.info)). This means that we are our manufacturer. For quality check, we will post a demo video with prototypes after the design is finalized. Therefore, we really appreciate it if you guys can spend some time giving us feedback.

TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES
**THIS IS OUR PROTOTYPE**
(https://i.imgur.com/JensUDq.jpg)
We got inspired by the class Disney series: Pirates of the Caribbean. During that “Golden Age of Piracy” (late 1600s to early 1700s), the pirate life was filled with dangerous adventures, buried treasures, eye patches, and the Jolly Roger. Undoubtedly, it was hard and interspersed with life-threatening battles that only men with the most extraordinary gallantry and greatest length of wickedness could become legendary. With that set in mind, we chose red as our theme color to fully reflect that ruthlessly precarious nature of the pirate life. Hopefully, this keycap set will get you to relive one of the most interesting times in human history.

(https://i.imgur.com/IOtVXKB.png)
PROTOTYPE SHOWCASE
So sorry for the late showcase, Hope you enjoyed the holidays and although it's quite early but Happy New Year!
IC Form

We appreciate any criticism, changes, suggestions, etc from you guys. They will be of great help for us to perfect our set.
Furthermore, if you're interested, we do have a Discord to answer any FAQs and post any newest updates on our kits.
This will be sublimated PBT keycap sets (Cherry profile)
Google: https://forms.gle/KDWj8g91aWLtFGcd6 (https://forms.gle/KDWj8g91aWLtFGcd6)
https://discord.gg/T7YuvEmt (https://discord.gg/T7YuvEmt)

TO-DO LIST

1. Edit designs if needed
2. Update prototypes with new designs
3. Find vendors

KITS
With this set, we target to try something new and unique.  We are really aware of the fact that we may have some issues with the design but every member of our teams is still very excited to try out this new experiment. That's why we really need feedback from you guys to make necessary changes to the set  :)

Base Kit 1
(https://i.imgur.com/eCAPTfI.jpg)

Basit Kit 2
(https://i.imgur.com/U77MFU8.jpg)

Ortho Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/EIKcBQz.jpg)

65% Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/FmLOSzZ.jpg)

Alt Mods
(https://i.imgur.com/SfObLH0.jpg)

Novelties
(https://i.imgur.com/Dl4cV5a.jpg)

Alpha Kit 1
(https://i.imgur.com/k88yLNi.jpg)

Alpha Kit 2
(https://i.imgur.com/n72ujfp.jpg)

Davy Jones' Locker Kits

(https://i.imgur.com/PTOCI5n.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Kjvpim8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ONFiAEW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xU8GrOb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hV9uvc4.jpg)


GB DATES, VENDORS, AND PRICING
To be Updated


Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: gilbert on Sat, 19 December 2020, 17:03:15
reserved
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: BapoDonu on Sat, 19 December 2020, 17:04:02
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: ephemeral25 on Sat, 19 December 2020, 17:04:52
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: yoot on Sat, 19 December 2020, 17:06:36
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: swomi on Sat, 19 December 2020, 17:07:23
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: Rico on Sat, 19 December 2020, 17:29:11
Simon, where are you ?
:p
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Sat, 19 December 2020, 19:23:47
While this isn't my style, love the attention to detail you put into this.


As a side note, are these going to be printed on, or double/triple-shot?

GLWIC.
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: Jefff on Sat, 19 December 2020, 19:28:42
What profile will this be?
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sat, 19 December 2020, 19:35:23
Who is manufacturing it
What profile is it in
How are the legends going to be made

and the most important
Why
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: Havattack on Sat, 19 December 2020, 23:14:16
I think someone all ready beat you guys to it.... Kind of weird just  how similar they are. https://www.ebay.com/itm/284107122669
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Sat, 19 December 2020, 23:21:02
Who is manufacturing it
What profile is it in
How are the legends going to be made

and the most important
Why


Quote
Apart from designing our own set, we choose to go to great lengths to challenge ourselves and commit ourselves to high quality and affordable keycap sets by establishing a manufacturing plant for keycaps ([/size]thekeycapfactory.info (http://thekeycapfactory.info/)[/color][/size]). For quality check, we will post a demo video with prototypes after the design is finalized. Therefore, we really appreciate it if you guys can spend some time giving us feedback.[/color]
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: Owl on Sat, 19 December 2020, 23:24:14
Pirate theme! Love it! Wish the renders were a little better and there was just a bit more info or samples of the material. Love it though. Extensive kitting too will appease a lot of people. HMS Victoria Deskmat maybe? Would love it.
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: jasonlee on Sat, 19 December 2020, 23:44:44
Who is manufacturing it
What profile is it in
How are the legends going to be made

and the most important
Why

Hi, we will manufacture the keycaps ourselves. It will be Cherry profile with sublimated printing (PBT). Sorry for not being clear in the original post. And why we manufacture ourselves? Simply because we can :p usually people have to wait for a long period of time after the group buy to have their keycaps delivered. However, if we own our manufacturing line, we can speed up the process. We know it's kinda hard to decide if you're interested in the set just with 2d version. We will update you guys with 3d renders soon. Stay tuned  :D (but if you guys do have any feedback, welcome! we really appreciate it if anyone can provide us some opinions so that we can improve our designs). When the designs are finalized, we will make a prototype to show you guys so don't worry
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | First Launching
Post by: Shiba1337 on Sat, 19 December 2020, 23:47:11
Not my style, a bit bust for me. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: jasonlee on Sun, 20 December 2020, 00:04:10
While this isn't my style, love the attention to detail you put into this.


As a side note, are these going to be printed on, or double/triple-shot?

GLWIC.

These will be sublimated PBT keycaps (cherry profile)  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Sun, 20 December 2020, 00:43:03
Who is manufacturing it
What profile is it in
How are the legends going to be made

and the most important
Why

Hi, we will manufacture the keycaps ourselves. It will be Cherry profile with sublimated printing (PBT). Sorry for not being clear in the original post. And why we manufacture ourselves? Simply because we can :p usually people have to wait for a long period of time after the group buy to have their keycaps delivered. However, if we own our manufacturing line, we can speed up the process. We know it's kinda hard to decide if you're interested in the set just with 2d version. We will update you guys with 3d renders soon. Stay tuned  :D (but if you guys do have any feedback, welcome! we really appreciate it if anyone can provide us some opinions so that we can improve our designs). When the designs are finalized, we will make a prototype to show you guys so don't worry


I think people will be more interested in how the prototypes will look like more than anything. With any new manufacturer, this will be the case.


I would highly recommend that the next time you post this IC or post an update, to include pictures of the prototypes. Renders alone won't suffice.


Again, kudos for trying something new and looping in new manufacturers. If the results are good, I'm sure that's just another option the community can use to design + manufacture keycap sets.
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: jasonlee on Sun, 20 December 2020, 01:26:15
Who is manufacturing it
What profile is it in
How are the legends going to be made

and the most important
Why

Hi, we will manufacture the keycaps ourselves. It will be Cherry profile with sublimated printing (PBT). Sorry for not being clear in the original post. And why we manufacture ourselves? Simply because we can :p usually people have to wait for a long period of time after the group buy to have their keycaps delivered. However, if we own our manufacturing line, we can speed up the process. We know it's kinda hard to decide if you're interested in the set just with 2d version. We will update you guys with 3d renders soon. Stay tuned  :D (but if you guys do have any feedback, welcome! we really appreciate it if anyone can provide us some opinions so that we can improve our designs). When the designs are finalized, we will make a prototype to show you guys so don't worry


I think people will be more interested in how the prototypes will look like more than anything. With any new manufacturer, this will be the case.


I would highly recommend that the next time you post this IC or post an update, to include pictures of the prototypes. Renders alone won't suffice.


Again, kudos for trying something new and looping in new manufacturers. If the results are good, I'm sure that's just another option the community can use to design + manufacture keycap sets.

Thanks for your suggestion. We will consider this. For now, we really want to make sure the designs look good enough before showcasing prototypes. We intended to upload the renders first to get more feedback, but ye, now everyone is also quite concerned about the prototypes so we will update renders and prototypes at the same time for the next update.   :)
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Sun, 20 December 2020, 01:42:30
Who is manufacturing it
What profile is it in
How are the legends going to be made

and the most important
Why

Hi, we will manufacture the keycaps ourselves. It will be Cherry profile with sublimated printing (PBT). Sorry for not being clear in the original post. And why we manufacture ourselves? Simply because we can :p usually people have to wait for a long period of time after the group buy to have their keycaps delivered. However, if we own our manufacturing line, we can speed up the process. We know it's kinda hard to decide if you're interested in the set just with 2d version. We will update you guys with 3d renders soon. Stay tuned  :D (but if you guys do have any feedback, welcome! we really appreciate it if anyone can provide us some opinions so that we can improve our designs). When the designs are finalized, we will make a prototype to show you guys so don't worry


I think people will be more interested in how the prototypes will look like more than anything. With any new manufacturer, this will be the case.


I would highly recommend that the next time you post this IC or post an update, to include pictures of the prototypes. Renders alone won't suffice.


Again, kudos for trying something new and looping in new manufacturers. If the results are good, I'm sure that's just another option the community can use to design + manufacture keycap sets.

Thanks for your suggestion. We will consider this. For now, we really want to make sure the designs look good enough before showcasing prototypes. We intended to upload the renders first to get more feedback, but ye, now everyone is also quite concerned about the prototypes so we will update renders and prototypes at the same time for the next update.   :)


I think you have the right idea. I agree the design is very important, but since you're a new manufacturer, that's where people's curiosity + concern may be. This will be true for any one staking out be a new manufacturer, even Salvun when he first started (whom is considered one of the best manufacturers in the community right now).


Good luck  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | First Launching
Post by: DotMatrix on Sun, 20 December 2020, 04:02:17
Took a look at the Marrowss Keycaps Instagram. Looks kinda sus because all of the posts use other peoples work and then says something like "stay tuned for our projects!". It looks misleading and that you're using other projects/sets to say that your work and quality is of the same.

For example, you post the novelties of SA Bliss from Minterly and don't mention her or that the design is not yours but instead say "Stay tuned for our new keycap project!". I don't think I see any original works of yours and I would wager that most of the pictures on the IG are also not taken by you either.

Also kind of suspicious that most of your followers are fake/bots.

I think you should update your posts to be misleading.
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: niakulah on Sun, 20 December 2020, 05:11:00
What profile will this be?
I read this in Captain Barbossa's voice
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | First Launching
Post by: reivyn124 on Sun, 20 December 2020, 06:04:07
Looks like they just deleted everything off their IG....kinda sus.

Would like to see some samples before considering this manu. Your site states the moq for a custom set is 50, prototypes are free, and shipping is free. If you own a factory already, why isn't there photos of actual prototype caps for this set? Protos don't seem to be too costly for you to make given that you're willing to offer them to anyone with a design for free.
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | First Launching
Post by: reivyn124 on Sun, 20 December 2020, 06:13:07
The pirate ship on the deskmat also looks awfully similar to something already on pinterest. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/283937951482324550/ (https://www.pinterest.com/pin/283937951482324550/)
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | First Launching
Post by: $W4GK!NG on Sun, 20 December 2020, 06:24:43
Took a look at the Marrowss Keycaps Instagram. Looks kinda sus because all of the posts use other peoples work and then says something like "stay tuned for our projects!". It looks misleading and that you're using other projects/sets to say that your work and quality is of the same.

For example, you post the novelties of SA Bliss from Minterly and don't mention her or that the design is not yours but instead say "Stay tuned for our new keycap project!". I don't think I see any original works of yours and I would wager that most of the pictures on the IG are also not taken by you either.

Also kind of suspicious that most of your followers are fake/bots.

I think you should update your posts to be misleading.

Just check his IG, seems like the post is all gone now, and I can't even check who the 8 followers are
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | First Launching
Post by: jasonlee on Sun, 20 December 2020, 06:52:18
What profile will this be?
I read this in Captain Barbossa's voice

This will be cherry profile keycaps
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | First Launching
Post by: jasonlee on Sun, 20 December 2020, 06:54:26
Took a look at the Marrowss Keycaps Instagram. Looks kinda sus because all of the posts use other peoples work and then says something like "stay tuned for our projects!". It looks misleading and that you're using other projects/sets to say that your work and quality is of the same.

For example, you post the novelties of SA Bliss from Minterly and don't mention her or that the design is not yours but instead say "Stay tuned for our new keycap project!". I don't think I see any original works of yours and I would wager that most of the pictures on the IG are also not taken by you either.

Also kind of suspicious that most of your followers are fake/bots.

I think you should update your posts to be misleading.

Thank you for pointing this out. We have made mistakes in the process of crediting some of the posts which have led to your misunderstandings. Therefore, we have deleted all of the misleading posts. We sincerely apologize for this.

With regard to the video prototypes of our products, we will update soon within 48 hours.
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | First Launching
Post by: jasonlee on Sun, 20 December 2020, 07:02:29
Looks like they just deleted everything off their IG....kinda sus.

Would like to see some samples before considering this manu. Your site states the moq for a custom set is 50, prototypes are free, and shipping is free. If you own a factory already, why isn't there photos of actual prototype caps for this set? Protos don't seem to be too costly for you to make given that you're willing to offer them to anyone with a design for free.

We really understand your concern. At the beginning, because we wanted to perfect the design before producing the prototypes, we haven't posted video prototypes yet. However, as for now, we see the need to post the prototypes sooner than expected. Therefore, we will post our video prototype within the next 48 hours.
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | First Launching
Post by: Reiniidevil on Sun, 20 December 2020, 09:26:53
You say you're from Scandinavia (assuming Sweden, based on your profile), and that you're the manufacturer of the keycaps, while the "manufacturing plant" is located in Southeast Asia. Are you based in Sweden or Southeast Asia? How does your operation work with a new keycap manufacturer?
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | First Launching
Post by: hali on Sun, 20 December 2020, 12:12:58
somehow the gmmk pro has more substance than this, ne samples avail?
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | First Launching
Post by: SherlockBunny on Sun, 20 December 2020, 16:45:45
I love the idea and the theme but I think the kitting for the 65% is a little barren. It'd be nice if you included support for things like 7U spacebar, split backspace, stepped capslock, and different nav keys (you could even make these novelties!). I know support for these is in the main kits but I think it's a HUGE lost opportunity to have a 65% kit without offering more compatibility so that more people can enjoy the set without wasting plastic and money.

Also, I think there's a mistake cuz the left control key says 1.5U but it looks like a 1.25U from the layout and compared to the tab key.

Otherwise, GLWIC and would love to see your future work. Keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | First Launching
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Sun, 20 December 2020, 17:25:15
I think it will help your brand and reputation a lot more if you folks show prototypes before releasing more designs: https://marrowss.com/groupbuy-eureka/

As someone that made a similar mistake before, I really mean it. It will do your name a whole lot better.

Wait till you have prototypes on hand before posting again on Geekhack!
Title: Re: [IC] TKF x Marrowss AGAINST THE TIDES | Cherry Profile | First Launching
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sun, 20 December 2020, 19:31:24
The keycap factory site looks very suspicious