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Offline henz

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"The manly switch"
« on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 05:13:20 »
im thinking of building a manly switch. i have this idea off getting a hold of some cherry mx super black springs and putting them into greys/clears.

Has anyone tried something similar or is this a crazy idea as it seems they are out of production since 2012.

The actuation point would be more than 150 g, hence "the manly" (:
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:45:36 »
Try BIC pen springs.
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:47:12 »
Sprit did some heavy custom springs but I think they only went up to 120g but he might have done some higher ones for 'testing'
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:50:53 »
i used 80g springs from originative in blues for a while. I like heavy, but it ended up just being too much. Had to bump it back down to black springs.

I'm 6'3", 225 and have giant hands, and I felt that the blues with 80g springs were fairly manly.
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:53:36 »
I have some tactile grays in my ergodox, with 100gr springs from Spirit's 1st spring-only GB.

 I have to say I don't like it. Not because it takes too much to actuate ... I have 100gr springs in the nearby clears, but the tactile gray, even natural, is a bit too 'mushy' for the feel I was hoping for. 100gr manlyclears are mighty stiff, but I happen to like them.

 Of course, the pinkies don't have that ... browns, and off-homerow they have 50gr springs (also from Spirit). So, whatever. I believe that for the current run of springs, the 100 & 120gr versions didn't reach MOQ. No surprise they're a bit of a specialty item (and I guess I'm just special that way).
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:57:46 »
I picked up some 150g and 300g springs just for the hell of it awhile back. The 150g is ridiculously heavy, it essentially made a clear steam feel almost linear. The 300g spring was just totally outright, it felt like I was going to break something pressing that key  :))

I really like the spring in the tactile gray (non-clicky) ... I think that one is supposed to be around 120g?
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:58:10 »
Quote from: AKmalamute on Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:53:36
I have some tactile grays in my ergodox, with 100gr springs from Spirit's 1st spring-only GB.

 I have to say I don't like it. Not because it takes too much to actuate ... I have 100gr springs in the nearby clears, but the tactile gray, even natural, is a bit too 'mushy' for the feel I was hoping for. 100gr manlyclears are mighty stiff, but I happen to like them.

 Of course, the pinkies don't have that ... browns, and off-homerow they have 50gr springs (also from Spirit). So, whatever. I believe that for the current run of springs, the 100 & 120gr versions didn't reach MOQ. No surprise they're a bit of a specialty item (and I guess I'm just special that way).

I thought the clear stem and gray stem was identical?

Are you saying the 100g springs feel different when using a clear stem versus a gray stem?
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:26:42 »
Get some buckling spring. Not that heavy, but way more manly for sure! You will feel the manliness at first try!
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:34:47 »
Quote from: JPG on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:26:42
Get some buckling spring.

Be sure that it is Model F, it is the multiple layers of steel that gives it such awesome stability.

The Model M is mostly plastic.
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:58:34 »
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:58:10
I thought the clear stem and gray stem was identical?

Are you saying the 100g springs feel different when using a clear stem versus a gray stem?

My fingers know which one is the gray, and the clear right next to it has the same spring. So ... yes, I guess I have to say that's what I'm saying.
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:09:01 »
Some industrial keyboards and public access terminal keyboards are designed to have 200 - 400g actuation forces!

Quote from: AKmalamute on Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:58:34
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:58:10
I thought the clear stem and gray stem was identical?


Are you saying the 100g springs feel different when using a clear stem versus a gray stem?

My fingers know which one is the gray, and the clear right next to it has the same spring. So ... yes, I guess I have to say that's what I'm saying.

I'm pretty sure clear and grey stems are the same. Photographing clears is really hard for me since the translucent plastic just absorbs the flash and gets that halo effect.

y'all can probably tell that it's a cellphone picture. As soon as someone mails me a better camera, I'll start using it :p
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:14:21 »
Quote from: AKmalamute on Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:58:34
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:58:10
I thought the clear stem and gray stem was identical?

Are you saying the 100g springs feel different when using a clear stem versus a gray stem?

My fingers know which one is the gray, and the clear right next to it has the same spring. So ... yes, I guess I have to say that's what I'm saying.

Interesting...i'll have to experiment.
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:15:08 »
Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:09:01
Some industrial keyboards and public access terminal keyboards are designed to have 200 - 400g actuation forces!

I do not doubt that my Logic Controls restaurant keyboard (still available!) has that kind of force.
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He wasn’t someone telling Trump hard truths to make sure that he was protected. Cohen was the guy who simply wanted to make sure that Trump was placated. He wanted the boss to be happy. Cohen wasn’t using his clout or connections to turn the tide in Trump’s favor.
He was just another person whose ambitions and self-worth had become intertwined with Trump, someone who as federal investigators closed in on him, as he lied and then lied some more, he had to be reminded by his wife, his daughter and his son that Trump was neither his salvation, nor was he someone worth saving." 2024-05-14 comment

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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 13:18:59 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:15:08
Quote from: dorkvader on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:09:01
Some industrial keyboards and public access terminal keyboards are designed to have 200 - 400g actuation forces!

I do not doubt that my Logic Controls restaurant keyboard (still available!) has that kind of force.
where where!?
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 13:25:08 »
Not a conventional keyboard, this is intended for commercial and industrial environments.
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"Cohen has been described as a “fixer,” a guy who gets things done, who cleans up messes and who calms the waters in a crisis. But mostly, it seems that Cohen was a lackey.
He wasn’t someone telling Trump hard truths to make sure that he was protected. Cohen was the guy who simply wanted to make sure that Trump was placated. He wanted the boss to be happy. Cohen wasn’t using his clout or connections to turn the tide in Trump’s favor.
He was just another person whose ambitions and self-worth had become intertwined with Trump, someone who as federal investigators closed in on him, as he lied and then lied some more, he had to be reminded by his wife, his daughter and his son that Trump was neither his salvation, nor was he someone worth saving." 2024-05-14 comment

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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 13:59:02 »
ah! maybe its best i ask spirit. se what he has to offer. =)
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 15:09:10 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:34:47
Quote from: JPG on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:26:42
Get some buckling spring.

Be sure that it is Model F, it is the multiple layers of steel that gives it such awesome stability.

The Model M is mostly plastic.

Damn right.  My testosterone level goes up when I type on my F.                                                 
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 16:10:22 »
Ordered som springs from sprit's GB :) wee gonna havet some fun with 120g springs, gotta order som greys also
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Re: "The manly switch"
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 16:21:31 »
Quote from: henz on Mon, 18 August 2014, 16:10:22
Ordered som springs from sprit's GB :) wee gonna havet some fun with 120g springs, gotta order som greys also

just get clears: they are the same slider.
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