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Offline dw_junon

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122 style terminal case comparison
« on: Mon, 17 August 2009, 16:06:11 »
First up, later style 122 keyboard assembly [in this example 1397003 PS/2 terminal emulator] in an older style case [from a 1389260 for 3179/3180 terminals].

Fits in quite neatly.



Yes, this works quite well.




Now for the older style keyboard assembly in the newer case.


It extends over the sides, and the height is never going to work...



Sure enough, not a good fit.



But what about the 104 key case [1387033 for the 3290 terminal]?  How different is it to the older 122 style?


It feels as though it would fit well if the right hand side of the 'board was "adjusted" suitably:



...and accordingly so vice-versa:




The newer style case really doesn't work with the old 104 assembly though:
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ARC/Chicony KB-5181 XT/AT blue ALPS? 101 US FCC ID E8H51KKB-5181 • AST ASTKB102 AT capacitive rubber dome 102 UK ISO
Cherry G80-2100 AT black Cherry 126 key German ISO unique • Compaq Enhanced III PS/2 unknown rubber dome 102 UK ISO
Datacomp DFK102ARA03 AT 102 blue ALPS? US/Arabic FCC ID blank, S/N 37880001 • Dell AT102W PS/2 Black ALPS 105 UK ISO x2
Fujitsu KFB4725-102 AT membrane rubber dome with spring 105 UK ISO • Hewlett Packard C1405A AT rubber dome 102 UK ISO
IBM 0989705 XT/AT no LEDs Model M 102 US/Arabic  • IBM 1388076 Industrial AT Model M 102 UK ISO
IBM 1389260 3179/3180 Display Station Model M 122 US 3270 x2 • IBM 1391406 PS/2 Model M 102 UK ISO x2
IBM 1397003 PS/2 Model M "Host Connect" emulator 122 German ISO • IBM 71G4643 PS/2 Model M Quiet Touch "Ouch!    Rubber spring" 102 UK ISO x2
IBM 5640987 3178 Display Station Model C2 capacitive buckling spring 87 key US 3270 • IBM 556-712-01 RT PC rubber dome [same as 2nd PCjr kbd?] 101 US
IBM 6450225 PC/AT capacitive buckling spring 84 key UK PC/AT • Lexmark 8125460 Model M2 102 UK ISO
NMB RT-102 117456-002 AT Hi-Tek black, clicky 102 UK ISO • Olivetti ANK 2462 M24 Personal Computer keyboard 2 clicky Olivetti spring module 102 UK unique
Ortek MCK-142Pro AT white ALPS 142 key UK • Sun 540-1006-03 Type unknown linear(?) keyswitch 2 87 key SunType2
Wang 724 725-3771-UK salmon ALPS 110 key UK Wang724 • Making this list hasn\'t half scared me...
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Offline Hak Foo

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122 style terminal case comparison
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 17 August 2009, 20:30:45 »
If they made a 122 with a M-style arrangement of the editing block and typing zone (wide, short enter, backslash over enter, wide left shift), I'd buy it immediately.  ISTR the contacts are there, but it's a "***** to do if you don't do it from before you rivet it together" problem.
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122 style terminal case comparison
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 17 August 2009, 20:36:29 »
Quote from: Hak Foo;110299
If they made a 122 with a M-style arrangement of the editing block and typing zone (wide, short enter, backslash over enter, wide left shift), I'd buy it immediately.  ISTR the contacts are there,


I'd buy it too, and it's true that some of the contacts are there, but I think the result would be a keyboard that produces scan codes software would not recognize. So they need to do more than simply put the keys in a different place on the existing board.
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Offline lowpoly

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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 18 August 2009, 06:33:28 »
Quote from: dw_junon;110256
1387033

Is that the one from recycledgoods?
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Offline dw_junon

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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 18 August 2009, 16:07:29 »
Quote from: kishy
Dare I say I've struck up a lot of forgotten interest in 122-key IBMs?

I already accused you of this.  While I did get around to taking new pictures of my IBM 'boards (except those I forgot...), I might never have got around to doing this, and certainly wouldn't have posted it, if it hadn't been for your wake up call.  This said, I have been aware that I've been using this 1397003 all this time, though...


Quote from: lowpoly
Is that the one from recycledgoods?

Yes, it is; there was a discount and I couldn't help myself...  Argecy.com still have at least one available which hopefully would not have cracks in the casing.
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ARC/Chicony KB-5181 XT/AT blue ALPS? 101 US FCC ID E8H51KKB-5181 • AST ASTKB102 AT capacitive rubber dome 102 UK ISO
Cherry G80-2100 AT black Cherry 126 key German ISO unique • Compaq Enhanced III PS/2 unknown rubber dome 102 UK ISO
Datacomp DFK102ARA03 AT 102 blue ALPS? US/Arabic FCC ID blank, S/N 37880001 • Dell AT102W PS/2 Black ALPS 105 UK ISO x2
Fujitsu KFB4725-102 AT membrane rubber dome with spring 105 UK ISO • Hewlett Packard C1405A AT rubber dome 102 UK ISO
IBM 0989705 XT/AT no LEDs Model M 102 US/Arabic  • IBM 1388076 Industrial AT Model M 102 UK ISO
IBM 1389260 3179/3180 Display Station Model M 122 US 3270 x2 • IBM 1391406 PS/2 Model M 102 UK ISO x2
IBM 1397003 PS/2 Model M "Host Connect" emulator 122 German ISO • IBM 71G4643 PS/2 Model M Quiet Touch "Ouch!    Rubber spring" 102 UK ISO x2
IBM 5640987 3178 Display Station Model C2 capacitive buckling spring 87 key US 3270 • IBM 556-712-01 RT PC rubber dome [same as 2nd PCjr kbd?] 101 US
IBM 6450225 PC/AT capacitive buckling spring 84 key UK PC/AT • Lexmark 8125460 Model M2 102 UK ISO
NMB RT-102 117456-002 AT Hi-Tek black, clicky 102 UK ISO • Olivetti ANK 2462 M24 Personal Computer keyboard 2 clicky Olivetti spring module 102 UK unique
Ortek MCK-142Pro AT white ALPS 142 key UK • Sun 540-1006-03 Type unknown linear(?) keyswitch 2 87 key SunType2
Wang 724 725-3771-UK salmon ALPS 110 key UK Wang724 • Making this list hasn\'t half scared me...
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Offline lowpoly

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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 19 August 2009, 11:58:06 »
These guys have one for $60:

http://www.ambry.com/page/search.asp?search_mode=pn&partnumber=1387033&x=0&y=0

They wouldn't answer my question about condition.

Shipping was $150+ to Germany.

I'll wait for ebay.
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Offline lowpoly

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« Reply #6 on: Thu, 20 August 2009, 04:42:46 »
There's a single person behind all these recycling websites.
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 20 August 2009, 06:17:56 »
Is that 104 key Model F or Model M style?
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