Post by: KingRama on Sun, 25 March 2018, 07:18:32
Missed out? Join the waiting list here: http://m60.iwantrama.works (http://m60.iwantrama.works)
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M60-A
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The M60-A represents the benchmark and equilibrium between function and design for us at Rama Works. The gently exaggerated design of the frame is not understated, but rather provocative. Inspiration and evolution from previous models are evident in the beautifully articulated design and the well defined aesthetic, the fingerprint of our ‘Industrial Modern’ designs. The M60-A offers a unique contender in the traditional 60% form factor.
Expertly milled down from a single piece of solid brass & aluminium to it's final shape, hand polished to a mirror finish & beadblasted to a high grit finish, then PVD coated or anodized to the perfect color.
In an effort to provide the best end-user experience available, this board requires no soldering to construct with any Cherry MX-compatible switches. The M60-A offers a USB-C connection attached to the USB Extension PCB. There will be additional PCBs also available for individual sale. The board includes in-switch RGB LEDs under the PCB, which require no installation. PCB design by Wilba.
There is also an optional interior weight for extra heft. The optional interior weight is a beadblasted brass weight which has been PVD coated. The weight adds some extra stability to the exceptionally solid build of the M60-A weighing altogether close to 2.3kg (1.6kg without the additional weight)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5aafae7c352f533ca58a7512/1521462928439/RAMA-M60-A-03.666.jpg)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5aafa6a20e2e7254480b21bf/1521460924978/RAMA-M60-A-03.688.jpg)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab4ef41758d46d6fb4d4abf/1521807187614/RAMA-M60-A-03.759.jpg)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab4efa7352f534a09f4bc48/1521807290618/RAMA-M60-A-03.769.jpg)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab39b582b6a28cd3026210f/1521720165316/RAMA-M60-A-03.742.jpg)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab3af28575d1f7020b5a36f/1521725237374/RAMA-M60-A-03.747.jpg)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab4ef318a922d7af0500e9e/1521807170883/RAMA-M60-A-03.757.jpg)
There's a slideshow on the info page of the M60-A with various sets & colors :)
What's included?
1 x Top Enclosure (Aluminium)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5aafab3a6d2a7312c1818b3b/1521462083104/RAMA-C-RAMA-HHKB-MX-01.382.jpg)
1 x Base Enclosure (Aluminium)
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1 x Back Weight (PVD Mirror-Polished Brass)
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2 x Custom Moulded Foot (Silicone - Black)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2689/3156/products/RAMA-M60-A-03.733_1024x1024.jpg?v=1521612391)
1 x Polishing Cloth
8 x SS M2 Fixtures
4 x SS M4 Fixtures
4 x SS M3 Fixtures
1 x M60-A PCB with Kailh Switch Sockets (designed by Wilba)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2689/3156/products/RAMA-M60-A-03.725_1024x1024.jpg)
1 x U1-C PCB (USB-C Interface board)
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1 x U1-C to M60-A PCB CABLE
1 x USB-C to USB-A cable (USB 3.0)
1 x HEX tool for base fixtures
Various Packaging
OPTIONAL EXTRAS
STARTER KIT w/ STABS + NOVELKEYS BOX ROYAL
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2689/3156/products/RAMA-M60-A-03.738_1024x1024.jpg)
INTERNAL WEIGHT KIT + 775 grams (roughly)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2689/3156/products/RAMA-M60-A-03.732_1024x1024.jpg)
PREORDER NOW
https://rama.works/m60-a (https://rama.works/m60-a)
Preorder closes April 30th
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Post by: Signature on Sun, 25 March 2018, 07:57:59
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 25 March 2018, 08:24:09
Post by: Lisinge on Sun, 25 March 2018, 08:31:57
In for two dark grey and interior weights. The other colors looks great but i want to be able to freely match with keycaps.
What colors did you guys get?
Post by: clochette on Sun, 25 March 2018, 09:08:09
which keycap set is this? would certainly like to get the exact same configuration!
Post by: Lisinge on Sun, 25 March 2018, 09:18:56
GMK Olivia! https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94386.0Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab39b582b6a28cd3026210f/1521720165316/RAMA-M60-A-03.742.jpg)
which keycap set is this? would certainly like to get the exact same configuration!
Post by: clochette on Sun, 25 March 2018, 09:26:15
GMK Olivia! https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94386.0Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab39b582b6a28cd3026210f/1521720165316/RAMA-M60-A-03.742.jpg)
which keycap set is this? would certainly like to get the exact same configuration!
awesome, thanks!
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 25 March 2018, 10:58:16
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Post by: MMKB on Sun, 25 March 2018, 11:27:06
Post by: stxfreak on Sun, 25 March 2018, 12:23:32
Joined! How does typing sound without soldering the switches? Could you upload a recording of typing with GMK keycaps and any linear switches?
I think he is still waiting for the pcb, he mentioned several times elsewhere that he'll do stuff like that once he has it!
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 25 March 2018, 12:27:07
I was convinced it was because of the nylon base causing buildup quickly, and it might be. But what about the silicone feet? I was reading that rubber silicon can be conductive or not depending on how it’s made.
Just wish there was a better answer for how to not fry you $400 keyboard other than remember to discharge before you sit down or run a humidifier
This is not isolated to Rama’s projects. It happens with all of my aluminum boards. It just happens more with my m65-a
Post by: BongoUnicorns on Sun, 25 March 2018, 12:42:10
More and more people have been reporting issues with the pcb on their M65-a boards. My best guess is that it is related to the other thing people are reporting. Static shock.
I was convinced it was because of the nylon base causing buildup quickly, and it might be. But what about the silicone feet? I was reading that rubber silicon can be conductive or not depending on how it’s made.
Just wish there was a better answer for how to not fry you $400 keyboard other than remember to discharge before you sit down or run a humidifier
This is not isolated to Rama’s projects. It happens with all of my aluminum boards. It just happens more with my m65-a
Would using tiny rubber gaskets to stand off the plate from the top case do anything to prevent the ESD from ruining the PCB?
Post by: up-in on Sun, 25 March 2018, 13:31:38
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 25 March 2018, 13:50:17
Would imagine you need them on both sides of the plate to not conduct through the screws. If so you wouldn't be able plug the USB seen as its hole is cut tight.More and more people have been reporting issues with the pcb on their M65-a boards. My best guess is that it is related to the other thing people are reporting. Static shock.
I was convinced it was because of the nylon base causing buildup quickly, and it might be. But what about the silicone feet? I was reading that rubber silicon can be conductive or not depending on how it’s made.
Just wish there was a better answer for how to not fry you $400 keyboard other than remember to discharge before you sit down or run a humidifier
This is not isolated to Rama’s projects. It happens with all of my aluminum boards. It just happens more with my m65-a
Would using tiny rubber gaskets to stand off the plate from the top case do anything to prevent the ESD from ruining the PCB?
Post by: mago on Sun, 25 March 2018, 14:24:13
Post by: beekey on Sun, 25 March 2018, 14:25:15
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 25 March 2018, 17:15:21
Post by: Brannan on Sun, 25 March 2018, 17:19:26
Post by: metalliccharles on Sun, 25 March 2018, 17:37:09
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5a7d361271c10b289b71a7bd/1518155290476/RAMA-RAMA-HHKB-MX-GMKRAMA-01.497.jpg?format=1500w)
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 25 March 2018, 17:50:06
Awesome! but need more render for the Lake color.
There is one on reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/872l7e/m60a_navy_with_different_keysets/
Post by: l0uie on Sun, 25 March 2018, 19:37:11
Post by: Solotov on Sun, 25 March 2018, 21:16:40
Post by: p_blaze on Sun, 25 March 2018, 21:19:40
Went for Sage (dark green). But I still can't design which keyset would look good on it. Any idea guys?
GMK royal alpha or beige with green text and sublegends
Post by: Midori on Sun, 25 March 2018, 21:20:13
Went for Sage (dark green). But I still can't design which keyset would look good on it. Any idea guys?
Maybe one of the green sets like Camping or Coniferous. Or you could go with something more muted like 9009, Classic Retro, or Muted.
Post by: superdoedoe on Sun, 25 March 2018, 21:20:23
Post by: romeo on Sun, 25 March 2018, 21:21:41
Post by: midnight2903 on Sun, 25 March 2018, 21:31:09
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 25 March 2018, 22:20:25
More and more people have been reporting issues with the pcb on their M65-a boards. My best guess is that it is related to the other thing people are reporting. Static shock.
I was convinced it was because of the nylon base causing buildup quickly, and it might be. But what about the silicone feet? I was reading that rubber silicon can be conductive or not depending on how it’s made.
Just wish there was a better answer for how to not fry you $400 keyboard other than remember to discharge before you sit down or run a humidifier
This is not isolated to Rama’s projects. It happens with all of my aluminum boards. It just happens more with my m65-a
Haven't heard of any issues with Wilba's PCB's (who designed the M60 PCB) - including the Planck's with metal enclosures :)
Joined! How does typing sound without soldering the switches? Could you upload a recording of typing with GMK keycaps and any linear switches?
Waiting for a typing test. Not sold on Integrated plates.
Oh man, it sounds amazing - even without the PCB - but just waiting on until I get the full kit w/ PCB to post a typing video so all the proper resonance is there - will be tweaking internals if need be :)
This is the best looking board I've ever seen. Joined as soon as the buy went up! Is this a possibility for the weight??? :eek: :eek:Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5a7d361271c10b289b71a7bd/1518155290476/RAMA-RAMA-HHKB-MX-GMKRAMA-01.497.jpg?format=1500w)
Thanks so much!
That weight is actually the gold weight with a purple light reflecting on it :P
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 25 March 2018, 22:23:21
Went for Sage (dark green). But I still can't design which keyset would look good on it. Any idea guys?
Maybe one of the green sets like Camping or Coniferous. Or you could go with something more muted like 9009, Classic Retro, or Muted.
What this man said!
9009
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Terminal
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab4efc1f950b7039c6fa9a7/1521807314920/RAMA-M60-A-03.772.jpg)
Camping
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Post by: xondat on Sun, 25 March 2018, 22:24:03
There is also an optional interior weight for extra heft and resonance.
I'm confused by this :eek: :eek:
Are you trying to increase the resonance?
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 25 March 2018, 22:26:55
There is also an optional interior weight for extra heft and resonance.
I'm confused by this :o :o
Are you trying to increase the resonance?
Sorry, that should be reduced - as there is less air-room - not that it makes a ton of difference - still need to get the mic out and record a through samples with/without
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 25 March 2018, 23:04:01
Post by: stxfreak on Mon, 26 March 2018, 02:33:13
is it possible to have an optional carrying case for this?
I dont know if Rama has some himself, but there was a post on reddit last week, from guys who are making carrying cases. They follow the new releases and you can ask them weather the keyboards will fit, for example the m60-a would fit the 65% as it’s a little too big for the 60%.
https://www.etsy.com/de/shop/ModernCoupCases
Sorry for off topic.
Post by: gutsack on Mon, 26 March 2018, 14:55:23
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 26 March 2018, 17:23:43
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 26 March 2018, 17:37:13
Anyone see or know of some good renders of Dusk with some keysets?
i summon rama
he's been spamming renders in IC threads, so i'm sure he'll be happy to make some more
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 26 March 2018, 19:48:36
is it possible to have an optional carrying case for this?
Not at this point unfortunately - but there's a lot of cool artisan made sleeves like the ones stxfreak posted!
Here are some dimensions useful for getting a sleeve made:
(https://i.imgur.com/AOmnQ3X.png)
Anyone see or know of some good renders of Dusk with some keysets?Any keysets you're interested in seeing specifically? :)
There's a few on the main rama.works site (in the slideshow)
GMK PLUM
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab4ef6788251b2e6b13e038/1521807228873/RAMA-M60-A-03.763.jpg)
GMK RED SAMURAI
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab3b9ce758d46f90e2eb292/1521727964488/RAMA-M60-A-03.750.jpg?format=2500w)
GMK 9009 w/ the new VIM kit
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab4ef522b6a289b6722ed84/1521807208681/RAMA-M60-A-03.761.jpg?format=2500w)
Here's how the colour looks next to Lake:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZtxtYOW.jpg)
And next to Moon:
(https://i.imgur.com/0w6ymVt.jpg)
In for two. So excited.
DUAL WIELD ! :eek:
Anyone see or know of some good renders of Dusk with some keysets?
i summon rama
he's been spamming renders in IC threads, so i'm sure he'll be happy to make some more
100% let me know requests!
Post by: p_blaze on Mon, 26 March 2018, 20:12:48
Was hoping for a lunar red tho
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 26 March 2018, 20:39:35
is it possible to have an optional carrying case for this?
Not at this point unfortunately - but there's a lot of cool artisan made sleeves like the ones stxfreak posted!
Here are some dimensions useful for getting a sleeve made:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/AOmnQ3X.png)Anyone see or know of some good renders of Dusk with some keysets?Any keysets you're interested in seeing specifically? :)
There's a few on the main rama.works site (in the slideshow)
GMK PLUMShow Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab4ef6788251b2e6b13e038/1521807228873/RAMA-M60-A-03.763.jpg)
GMK RED SAMURAIShow Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab3b9ce758d46f90e2eb292/1521727964488/RAMA-M60-A-03.750.jpg?format=2500w)
GMK 9009 w/ the new VIM kitShow Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab4ef522b6a289b6722ed84/1521807208681/RAMA-M60-A-03.761.jpg?format=2500w)
Here's how the colour looks next to Lake:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZtxtYOW.jpg)
And next to Moon:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0w6ymVt.jpg)In for two. So excited.
DUAL WIELD ! :eek:Anyone see or know of some good renders of Dusk with some keysets?
i summon rama
he's been spamming renders in IC threads, so i'm sure he'll be happy to make some more
100% let me know requests!
These are hot! I'd like to see Olivia, Muted, and HF Origins if possible :)
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 26 March 2018, 20:42:37
Post by: superdoedoe on Mon, 26 March 2018, 20:49:35
This is such an aesthetically pleasing board. I'm in. I guess we've got another 3 or 4 weeks to order? Are these available in limited numbers?
IIRC Unlimited number and GB closes 20th April
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 26 March 2018, 21:27:45
GMK RED SAMURAIShow Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab3b9ce758d46f90e2eb292/1521727964488/RAMA-M60-A-03.750.jpg?format=2500w)
:eek: If Red Samurai wasn't for the Dark Red CA66, I would have had to reconsider buying Lake.
Post by: Muffin_Smasher on Tue, 27 March 2018, 00:45:09
Post by: up-in on Tue, 27 March 2018, 03:58:02
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 27 March 2018, 04:11:23
Post by: kmba on Tue, 27 March 2018, 05:03:22
I have some questions, does the felt lining as shown on the early render on Instagram gonna be there? It's very nice add. And does the extra weight really matter? I've never used a keyboard that weights more than 800g (1.7lbs), I read that M60-A weights 1,5kg without the weight so it's heavy enough but i don't know, the extra wight seems nice to fill the chamber.
It will be heavy enough without the additional weight.
Post by: audax989 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 05:53:21
Post by: notflipperdan420 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 06:07:41
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 27 March 2018, 08:11:34
Kuro, moon, and mist with sanctuary dcs if you really want to kill some time :p(https://i.imgur.com/0RtS2kQ.jpg)
Was hoping for a lunar red tho
Here you go!
These are hot! I'd like to see Olivia, Muted, and HF Origins if possible :)(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aba406470a6adbe9b7e36b0/5aba40a21ae6cf97f5699b61/1522155718606/RAMA-M60-A-03.814.jpg?format=1500w)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aba406470a6adbe9b7e36b0/5aba406503ce64c09d4c723c/1522155656224/RAMA-M60-A-03.809.jpg?format=1500w)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aba406470a6adbe9b7e36b0/5aba4065352f53257888cef3/1522155656944/RAMA-M60-A-03.810.jpg?format=1500w)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aba406470a6adbe9b7e36b0/5aba40862b6a28f01f778745/1522155684396/RAMA-M60-A-03.811.jpg?format=1500w)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aba406470a6adbe9b7e36b0/5aba40a2aa4a99d2a61ff964/1522155717993/RAMA-M60-A-03.813.jpg?format=1500w)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aba406470a6adbe9b7e36b0/5aba408703ce64c09d4c7777/1522155684225/RAMA-M60-A-03.812.jpg?format=1500w)
So that Moon looks quite dark grey from the color sample, i like it a lot!Agree'd! We had a custom bath made up for our grey :D Super happy with how it came out
I have some questions, does the felt lining as shown on the early render on Instagram gonna be there? It's very nice add. And does the extra weight really matter? I've never used a keyboard that weights more than 800g (1.7lbs), I read that M60-A weights 1,5kg without the weight so it's heavy enough but i don't know, the extra wight seems nice to fill the chamber.We have to do some further testing once the PCB comes in, but without we've found no difference as the sound with the 4.5MM integrated already sounds really great - but if necessary it will be included if a difference can be deduced :)
I have some questions, does the felt lining as shown on the early render on Instagram gonna be there? It's very nice add. And does the extra weight really matter? I've never used a keyboard that weights more than 800g (1.7lbs), I read that M60-A weights 1,5kg without the weight so it's heavy enough but i don't know, the extra wight seems nice to fill the chamber.
It will be heavy enough without the additional weight.
Yep! The extra weight is for people who need that something more, without it it's still decently hefty!
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5aba422603ce64c09d4cb50c/1522156083034/RAMA-M60-A-03.815.jpg?format=1500w)
Post by: garbo on Tue, 27 March 2018, 08:18:17
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 27 March 2018, 08:23:31
Since I can’t seem to see it mentioned anywhere, does anyone know if there’s a projected timeline for manufacturing and shipping? Would something like the end of the year be a fair estimate?
Aiming for July shipment - but will have a better estimation once we begin manufacturing :)
Post by: mkarlsson on Tue, 27 March 2018, 08:25:56
Any estimated price for the tkl version?
Post by: garbo on Tue, 27 March 2018, 08:30:33
Since I can’t seem to see it mentioned anywhere, does anyone know if there’s a projected timeline for manufacturing and shipping? Would something like the end of the year be a fair estimate?
Aiming for July shipment - but will have a better estimation once we begin manufacturing :)
Cool, that’s pretty speedy :thumb: My bad, I apparently didn’t look at the store page very closely cause it does say.
Good job with all the renders btw.
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 27 March 2018, 08:32:06
Wow Rama, these are beautiful.
Any estimated price for the tkl version?
Cheers mate!!
No pricing on the TKL yet - that will be run via OCO later this year :)
Since I can’t seem to see it mentioned anywhere, does anyone know if there’s a projected timeline for manufacturing and shipping? Would something like the end of the year be a fair estimate?
Aiming for July shipment - but will have a better estimation once we begin manufacturing :)
Cool, that’s pretty speedy :thumb: My bad, I apparently didn’t look at the store page very closely cause it does say.
Good job with all the renders btw.
No worries at all!! Cheers bro :D
Post by: GarrettSucks on Tue, 27 March 2018, 10:00:34
Post by: tanvir175 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 10:44:39
Since I can’t seem to see it mentioned anywhere, does anyone know if there’s a projected timeline for manufacturing and shipping? Would something like the end of the year be a fair estimate?
On the purchase page it says mid 2018. A user on Reddit said July was estimated and said by rama on a discord server. Not in the discord server myself and don't know which one they meant so can't verify that myself.
Edit: Didn't see that there was a second page and answer to this already before I posted.
Post by: mkarlsson on Tue, 27 March 2018, 11:34:57
Post by: midnight2903 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 11:53:52
Post by: xondat on Tue, 27 March 2018, 12:05:55
Is it just me or is ramaworks store down?
Works for me.
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 27 March 2018, 12:17:57
Post by: xondat on Tue, 27 March 2018, 12:23:17
Are there any details about the backside height of the keyboard?
Using the data he's provided (front height, depth, and angle), looks be about 35.90mm.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 27 March 2018, 12:24:27
There is also an optional interior weight for extra heft and resonance.
I'm confused by this :o :o
Are you trying to increase the resonance?
Sorry, that should be reduced - as there is less air-room - not that it makes a ton of difference - still need to get the mic out and record a through samples with/without
Aahhhh! That makes sense. Looking forward to hearing if there is a difference :p
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 27 March 2018, 12:27:10
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 27 March 2018, 13:33:18
Post by: Hokabuki on Tue, 27 March 2018, 14:11:26
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 27 March 2018, 16:41:44
Just to be clear, the layout can’t be changed at all, correct? I’m mainly concerned with the split backspace. I really like split backspace, but the sets I was going to put on don’t have r1 1u backspace keys (GMK solarized dark and GMK Led Zep)
with split backspace, you're supposed to use the \| key as backspace
Post by: tanvir175 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 16:59:55
Just to be clear, the layout can’t be changed at all, correct? I’m mainly concerned with the split backspace. I really like split backspace, but the sets I was going to put on don’t have r1 1u backspace keys (GMK solarized dark and GMK Led Zep)
You can put the ~` key there instead of 1u Del, like the HHKB does.
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 27 March 2018, 17:05:05
Just to be clear, the layout can’t be changed at all, correct? I’m mainly concerned with the split backspace. I really like split backspace, but the sets I was going to put on don’t have r1 1u backspace keys (GMK solarized dark and GMK Led Zep)
With QMK you can just make both keys work as backspace and change the lower backspace back to backslash if you want.
Post by: tanvir175 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 17:06:11
Just to be clear, the layout can’t be changed at all, correct? I’m mainly concerned with the split backspace. I really like split backspace, but the sets I was going to put on don’t have r1 1u backspace keys (GMK solarized dark and GMK Led Zep)
With QMK you can just make both keys work as backspace and change the lower backspace back to backslash if you want.
I think the concern was with having the correct legend caps.
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 27 March 2018, 17:09:57
Just to be clear, the layout can’t be changed at all, correct? I’m mainly concerned with the split backspace. I really like split backspace, but the sets I was going to put on don’t have r1 1u backspace keys (GMK solarized dark and GMK Led Zep)
With QMK you can just make both keys work as backspace and change the lower backspace back to backslash if you want.
I think the concern was with having the correct legend caps.
You just let that concern go and let peace wash over you. Then one night you wake with a start and realize this hobby is a weight upon your shoulders and life could be better if you just save yourself the trouble and stop buying boards. But then you say to hell with it and end up with two backspace keys labeled incorrectly.
Post by: tanvir175 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 17:14:52
Just to be clear, the layout can’t be changed at all, correct? I’m mainly concerned with the split backspace. I really like split backspace, but the sets I was going to put on don’t have r1 1u backspace keys (GMK solarized dark and GMK Led Zep)
With QMK you can just make both keys work as backspace and change the lower backspace back to backslash if you want.
I think the concern was with having the correct legend caps.
You just let that concern go and let peace wash over you. Then one night you wake with a start and realize this hobby is a weight upon your shoulders and life could be better if you just save yourself the trouble and stop buying boards. But then you say to hell with it and end up with two backspace keys labeled incorrectly.
FWIW, legends don't matter to me. I don't look at my board when I type. As long as it's aesthetically pleasing, the plastic is just there so I have something bigger to hit than that little stem.
And while your point is valid and fair, the original concern was with correct legend caps so I'm addressing it as such.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 27 March 2018, 17:18:01
Just to be clear, the layout can’t be changed at all, correct? I’m mainly concerned with the split backspace. I really like split backspace, but the sets I was going to put on don’t have r1 1u backspace keys (GMK solarized dark and GMK Led Zep)
If you care about correct legends, it's all going to be about what layout you use.
(https://i.imgur.com/r2MbSFe.png)
This is the MX version of the HHKB. Both keysets you mentioned support it. When you go changing it, I doubt you'll find full support.
Post by: Hokabuki on Tue, 27 March 2018, 17:27:45
Yes I’m one of those people who prefers correct legends. I’ll find someway to make it work and be a comfortable layout for myself.Just to be clear, the layout can’t be changed at all, correct? I’m mainly concerned with the split backspace. I really like split backspace, but the sets I was going to put on don’t have r1 1u backspace keys (GMK solarized dark and GMK Led Zep)
With QMK you can just make both keys work as backspace and change the lower backspace back to backslash if you want.
I think the concern was with having the correct legend caps.
You just let that concern go and let peace wash over you. Then one night you wake with a start and realize this hobby is a weight upon your shoulders and life could be better if you just save yourself the trouble and stop buying boards. But then you say to hell with it and end up with two backspace keys labeled incorrectly.
FWIW, legends don't matter to me. I don't look at my board when I type. As long as it's aesthetically pleasing, the plastic is just there so I have something bigger to hit than that little stem.
And while your point is valid and fair, the original concern was with correct legend caps so I'm addressing it as such.
Post by: tanvir175 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 18:07:15
Yes I’m one of those people who prefers correct legends. I’ll find someway to make it work and be a comfortable layout for myself.Just to be clear, the layout can’t be changed at all, correct? I’m mainly concerned with the split backspace. I really like split backspace, but the sets I was going to put on don’t have r1 1u backspace keys (GMK solarized dark and GMK Led Zep)
With QMK you can just make both keys work as backspace and change the lower backspace back to backslash if you want.
I think the concern was with having the correct legend caps.
You just let that concern go and let peace wash over you. Then one night you wake with a start and realize this hobby is a weight upon your shoulders and life could be better if you just save yourself the trouble and stop buying boards. But then you say to hell with it and end up with two backspace keys labeled incorrectly.
FWIW, legends don't matter to me. I don't look at my board when I type. As long as it's aesthetically pleasing, the plastic is just there so I have something bigger to hit than that little stem.
And while your point is valid and fair, the original concern was with correct legend caps so I'm addressing it as such.
Yeah, nothing wrong with that. I recommend going the standard HHKB layout, as shown in the image above in xondat's post. ever since using Backspace in the HHKB layout, I can't go back to using normal backspace. I keep hitting \\\\\\\ whenever I want to backspace at school/work.
Post by: ttot on Wed, 28 March 2018, 06:22:22
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 28 March 2018, 06:56:12
Post by: stxfreak on Wed, 28 March 2018, 07:39:39
Hey. I have a question. LAKE (NAVY) and Midnight Blue, from M10-B Mechanical Mini Pad drop, is it the same color, or are they different?
I think rama mentioned multiple times that, as they are produced by different manufacturers, the colors will be different. But I'm not sure if it was for the M10-B or a different one.
Post by: mbsurfer on Wed, 28 March 2018, 08:39:53
Post by: stxfreak on Wed, 28 March 2018, 08:58:00
I went in for Kuro because I plan on using SA Oblivion with Oblivion alphas. Now I'm second guessing if Moon was a better choice or if I should have got Hagoroma alphas like in Rama's renders.. These boards look great with any combo though
That's why I held off ordering moon, I was still debating if kuro or moon would be better. As soon as I saw the image of the anodization block Rama posted, I ordered moon. That grey is way darker than I thought and I really like that.
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 28 March 2018, 09:08:27
Hey. I have a question. LAKE (NAVY) and Midnight Blue, from M10-B Mechanical Mini Pad drop, is it the same color, or are they different?
Hey, yeah! They're the same colour reference for the Anodizing, but anodized by different manufacturers - so it will most definitely vary, but they will match colourtone wise :)
If only I could go for more colors, I went for moon to fit my GMK laser (kobe + blocknet), but I would love this Dusk also :3 ! First world problem I guess x)Mateeee, that's the ultimate combo - I'd be so content with that. Very much regret not getting in on laser :(
I went in for Kuro because I plan on using SA Oblivion with Oblivion alphas. Now I'm second guessing if Moon was a better choice or if I should have got Hagoroma alphas like in Rama's renders.. These boards look great with any combo though
You can always change up until the 20th of April! Just send an email at support@rama.works if you want to do so (can just reply to the order confirmation email) :)
SA Oblivion will defs look good with any colour M60 really since it's grey-based :)
I went in for Kuro because I plan on using SA Oblivion with Oblivion alphas. Now I'm second guessing if Moon was a better choice or if I should have got Hagoroma alphas like in Rama's renders.. These boards look great with any combo though
That's why I held off ordering moon, I was still debating if kuro or moon would be better. As soon as I saw the image of the anodization block Rama posted, I ordered moon. That grey is way darker than I thought and I really like that.
Yeah! It's really hard to tell until you see the ano blocks, super happy with the grey <3 _ <3
Post by: YisSerL on Wed, 28 March 2018, 11:30:25
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:16:57
Rama, are you including your rama branded usb c cable with this?
Yep! Comes with the Rama USB A to C 1M cable :)
Post by: funkybeat7 on Wed, 28 March 2018, 22:31:04
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 29 March 2018, 05:42:04
In for a Kuro M60-A! Now to play the waiting game and show off my endgame joy in a few months :D
You gotta show me photos of it on your desk when you get it all set up :D
Post by: funkybeat7 on Thu, 29 March 2018, 07:44:22
In for a Kuro M60-A! Now to play the waiting game and show off my endgame joy in a few months :D
You gotta show me photos of it on your desk when you get it all set up :D
Oh absolutely! My entire desk is getting an overhaul over the next few months and I hope what I have in mind looks nice. It's all going to be hand made by myself so I might have to find a nice camera to borrow for an evening to get good pictures, I'm going for the professional home office look haha
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Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 29 March 2018, 07:47:30
I have:
SA chocolatier,
Miami Dolch DSA
On the way:
originative Keyboard & Co
olivia (if it hits moq)
necro (if it hits moq)
what color should I get? very slightly leaning to gray
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 29 March 2018, 07:52:25
really having a hard time with deciding...Grey or black.
I have:
SA chocolatier,
Miami Dolch DSA
On the way:
originative Keyboard & Co
olivia (if it hits moq)
necro (if it hits moq)
what color should I get? very slightly leaning to gray
Personally I'm getting black only because I have a grey M65-A.
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 29 March 2018, 11:19:56
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 29 March 2018, 21:24:52
In for a Kuro M60-A! Now to play the waiting game and show off my endgame joy in a few months :D
You gotta show me photos of it on your desk when you get it all set up :D
Oh absolutely! My entire desk is getting an overhaul over the next few months and I hope what I have in mind looks nice. It's all going to be hand made by myself so I might have to find a nice camera to borrow for an evening to get good pictures, I'm going for the professional home office look haha
Ohhh what you're making your own desk?? Definitely gotta show us when that's done :D Can't wait to see man!
really having a hard time with deciding...
I have:
SA chocolatier,
Miami Dolch DSA
On the way:
originative Keyboard & Co
olivia (if it hits moq)
necro (if it hits moq)
what color should I get? very slightly leaning to gray
With all those sets, I'd definitely say Moon, yeah :) Would work with all of those for sure, so can easily swap between
In for some Moon Moon with all the options :thumb:
Solid choice!!
Post by: tanvir175 on Sat, 31 March 2018, 00:07:22
Also Rama, I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but is R2 M65-A ever going to happen? I don't need it to be soon but I'd like to know whether I should wait or scour through mechmarket.
Post by: Sylanthra on Sat, 31 March 2018, 00:46:25
I need you to design a TKL, or better yet, a split keyboard similar to VE.A. I love your designs, but they are all too small for me :(.
Post by: tanvir175 on Sat, 31 March 2018, 01:34:54
Rama,
I need you to design a TKL, or better yet, a split keyboard similar to VE.A. I love your designs, but they are all too small for me :(.
There's a Rama TKL coming later this year which will be sold at Originative, I think? Not sure about the vendor.
Post by: mkarlsson on Sat, 31 March 2018, 04:55:23
Rama,
I need you to design a TKL, or better yet, a split keyboard similar to VE.A. I love your designs, but they are all too small for me :(.
There's a Rama TKL coming later this year which will be sold at Originative, I think? Not sure about the vendor.
That’s also the info I saw.
Post by: Stagione on Sat, 31 March 2018, 05:18:07
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 31 March 2018, 05:34:01
I really want a Sage but so hard to find a keyset that matches with the green... and it's also not very flexible so I can't swap caps later :/I also consider sage, it is quite unique and very good looking, but I endup choosing moon wich is way more easy to associate. Sage will go nicely with any gray/beige vintage keyset I think
Post by: mudcakehoney on Sat, 31 March 2018, 07:57:43
Post by: Funktion on Sat, 31 March 2018, 10:03:30
Post by: Kerasan on Sat, 31 March 2018, 10:30:07
I really want a Sage but so hard to find a keyset that matches with the green... and it's also not very flexible so I can't swap caps later :/
it depends if you want to take a classic color or an exclusive color, black and gray are beautiful but many keyboards use these colors combination, sage is much rarer and it's perfect on the Rama m-60 imho
KMK Labs.
Post by: Sylanthra on Sat, 31 March 2018, 15:06:13
Rama,
I need you to design a TKL, or better yet, a split keyboard similar to VE.A. I love your designs, but they are all too small for me :(.
There's a Rama TKL coming later this year which will be sold at Originative, I think? Not sure about the vendor.
Found the info page https://rama.works/tkl-a/
Thanks for letting me know ;D.
Post by: Stagione on Sat, 31 March 2018, 16:11:36
Not sure if at all possible but I’d love to see a breakdown of colours ordered, interested to see which way people have been swinging
Yes, I'd be interested to see this as well. I'd imagine probably Moon and Kuro to be the most popular.
I really want a Sage but so hard to find a keyset that matches with the green... and it's also not very flexible so I can't swap caps later :/
it depends if you want to take a classic color or an exclusive color, black and gray are beautiful but many keyboards use these colors combination, sage is much rarer and it's perfect on the Rama m-60 imho
That's the thing. For a keyboard like M60-A which I can only afford one and it will probably not make another appearance, I want it to be an exclusive colour, but I want to be 100% sure before I pull the trigger also for the same reasons.
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 01 April 2018, 07:14:08
I really want a Sage but so hard to find a keyset that matches with the green... and it's also not very flexible so I can't swap caps later :/I also consider sage, it is quite unique and very good looking, but I endup choosing moon wich is way more easy to associate. Sage will go nicely with any gray/beige vintage keyset I think
Yeah, Sage works super well with Black/White and beige/yellow-toned sets :) And can also be accented nicely with some colours :)
Does Rama usually do a second round? Not sure I will have the funds to make this one but maybe in the future.
Potentially at some point, but won't be for a longgg while - and most likely not in the same colourways.
I already bought Lake but that Moon is beautiful.
Also Rama, I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but is R2 M65-A ever going to happen? I don't need it to be soon but I'd like to know whether I should wait or scour through mechmarket.
It'll be back :)
Not sure if at all possible but I’d love to see a breakdown of colours ordered, interested to see which way people have been swinging
From most to least ordered (so far):
Moon
Lake
Sage / Kuro (equal)
Mist
Dusk
Post by: midnight2903 on Sun, 01 April 2018, 08:20:18
I really want a Sage but so hard to find a keyset that matches with the green... and it's also not very flexible so I can't swap caps later :/I also consider sage, it is quite unique and very good looking, but I endup choosing moon wich is way more easy to associate. Sage will go nicely with any gray/beige vintage keyset I think
Yeah, Sage works super well with Black/White and beige/yellow-toned sets :) And can also be accented nicely with some colours :)Does Rama usually do a second round? Not sure I will have the funds to make this one but maybe in the future.
Potentially at some point, but won't be for a longgg while - and most likely not in the same colourways.I already bought Lake but that Moon is beautiful.
Also Rama, I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but is R2 M65-A ever going to happen? I don't need it to be soon but I'd like to know whether I should wait or scour through mechmarket.
It'll be back :)Not sure if at all possible but I’d love to see a breakdown of colours ordered, interested to see which way people have been swinging
From most to least ordered (so far):
Moon
Lake
Sage / Kuro (equal)
Mist
Dusk
moon master race :))
Post by: stxfreak on Sun, 01 April 2018, 09:07:22
I really want a Sage but so hard to find a keyset that matches with the green... and it's also not very flexible so I can't swap caps later :/I also consider sage, it is quite unique and very good looking, but I endup choosing moon wich is way more easy to associate. Sage will go nicely with any gray/beige vintage keyset I think
Yeah, Sage works super well with Black/White and beige/yellow-toned sets :) And can also be accented nicely with some colours :)Does Rama usually do a second round? Not sure I will have the funds to make this one but maybe in the future.
Potentially at some point, but won't be for a longgg while - and most likely not in the same colourways.I already bought Lake but that Moon is beautiful.
Also Rama, I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but is R2 M65-A ever going to happen? I don't need it to be soon but I'd like to know whether I should wait or scour through mechmarket.
It'll be back :)Not sure if at all possible but I’d love to see a breakdown of colours ordered, interested to see which way people have been swinging
From most to least ordered (so far):
Moon
Lake
Sage / Kuro (equal)
Mist
Dusk
moon master race :))
From the provided picture of the anodization block, it's really hard to pass on that grey.
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Mon, 02 April 2018, 08:13:37
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Post by: MoebiuS451 on Mon, 02 April 2018, 09:28:32
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 02 April 2018, 10:20:37
Hello, do have any renders (from above and isometric) with SP SA keysets (for instance Carbon SA with Dusk, Dolch SA with Sage or Dasher SA with Lake) ?
It would be interesting indeed! Even if I will go with qmk on this one, after 3 SA keyset, time to change a little ^^
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 02 April 2018, 13:12:52
Does Rama usually do a second round? Not sure I will have the funds to make this one but maybe in the future.
Potentially at some point, but won't be for a longgg while - and most likely not in the same colourways.I already bought Lake but that Moon is beautiful.
Also Rama, I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but is R2 M65-A ever going to happen? I don't need it to be soon but I'd like to know whether I should wait or scour through mechmarket.
It'll be back :)
Awesome! I'll be patiently waiting :)
Since I've already joined for Lake, I hope Moon makes another appearance in M65 r2 because that gray is one of the best I've seen.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Tue, 03 April 2018, 22:52:55
I already bought Lake but that Moon is beautiful.
Also Rama, I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but is R2 M65-A ever going to happen? I don't need it to be soon but I'd like to know whether I should wait or scour through mechmarket.
It'll be back :)
YES please! The M60 looks amazing, but I've long accepted that I cannot go smaller than 65%.
Also, uh, please consider a way to hide the side screws in the R2 M65-A 😆
Post by: KikkotheWhiteFox on Wed, 04 April 2018, 03:37:57
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 04 April 2018, 05:32:16
I ordered the GMK Samurai set and cant decide on colorway for the hkkb :-[ Do I go with the gray/ silver for the clean af look, or the pink with rose gold back weight. I'm scared of going pink because I think it might be too much, really leaning towards the grey or silver case and getting a extra rose gold back weight. Anyone that got this set, know which color case they are getting?
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab3b9ce758d46f90e2eb292/1521727964488/RAMA-M60-A-03.750.jpg)
IMHO I think it's not that good a match, the Dusk is a bit too "pink" to go well with the dark red of Samurai, but since I haven't seen Samurai in real life, it's hard to say if it works or not.
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab3b9da0e2e72ea76960db0/1521727975031/RAMA-M60-A-03.751.jpg)
Samauri on Moon is a safe choice ;D
Post by: namgungh on Wed, 04 April 2018, 14:57:37
Can anyone or Rama please comment on what colorway would match best on
- XDA Canvas Mitos
- Pulse SA Round 3?
I feel that getting Moon would be safe choice for any keysets....
Post by: speedyzy on Wed, 04 April 2018, 15:59:02
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 04 April 2018, 16:03:06
is it coming with a sound dampening liningHe mentioned that he still needs to do some sound tests to see if the lining has any noticeable effect. If it does, he’ll include it. If not, well there’s really no point.
Post by: ctrl on Wed, 04 April 2018, 16:04:53
Hello, do have any renders (from above and isometric) with SP SA keysets (for instance Carbon SA with Dusk, Dolch SA with Sage or Dasher SA with Lake) ?
It would be interesting indeed! Even if I will go with qmk on this one, after 3 SA keyset, time to change a little ^^
Second this. I hope to be able to use a SA keyset with the M60-A, but would like to see a render so as to judge whether it'll be a good match or not.
Post by: johuu on Wed, 04 April 2018, 17:33:12
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 04 April 2018, 18:05:51
Is there any render with GMK Necro available?
https://imgur.com/gallery/eKxdz
Jessica did these, she also made one on Sage that looked surprisingly good but I can't recall where I saved it, unfortunately. Maybe someone else has it.
Post by: PRkeys on Wed, 04 April 2018, 19:19:50
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 04 April 2018, 19:30:55
I also too had question about Samurai Red.
Can anyone or Rama please comment on what colorway would match best on
- XDA Canvas Mitos
- Pulse SA Round 3?
I feel that getting Moon would be safe choice for any keysets....
Mito had some renders up on his site for Pulse SA!
(https://mitormk.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/asset-48.png)
I think the safe choices are Kuro / Moon / Mist (the grayscales!)
I'll do some XDA renders this weekend, including Canvas :)
Is there any render with GMK Necro available?
Yup!
(https://i.imgur.com/TUoqVgG.jpg)
Any details on what is the status of GMK Heavy Industry ?
Stay tuned ;)
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 04 April 2018, 19:34:46
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Post by: xondat on Wed, 04 April 2018, 19:41:00
I'll do some XDA renders this weekend, including Canvas :)
XDA Oblique please!!
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 04 April 2018, 19:42:40
Sorry for the repost, KingRama, I'm interested as to whether individual PCBs will be for sale in your store after the conclusion of the GB?
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We always buy extra PCB's to stock on-hand for support/replacement related things, but these are typically not available for immediate purchase through the site. For instance we have about 30-40 spare M6-A PCB's at the moment :)
I'll do some XDA renders this weekend, including Canvas :)
XDA Oblique please!!
For sure! I'll add that one in too :)
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 05 April 2018, 07:52:39
Post by: G1LL3Y on Thu, 05 April 2018, 08:49:30
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 05 April 2018, 08:50:28
Does anybody know what the SS M# fixtures are that come with the M60-A? I'm new to the kb community, and I don't know what the fixtures are. BTW Lake is the best color! ;D ;DStainless Steel Machine Screws.
Post by: ye_cole on Thu, 05 April 2018, 09:44:12
Janglad made a render of SA Royalty on the M60a in the dusk colorway. (dusk master race!)
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 05 April 2018, 21:30:47
OK! I just put in my order this morning... went with Mooooooon - and the extra weight! My most expensive kb purchase (to date). It was a tough decision cause I want ALL colors. I'm a chicken and the price forced me to play it safe (I love the gray though so it's fine).
Woahh, huge turning point in your life! You're going to love it mate - we have a moon prototyping arriving before the GB closes as well (will come at the same time as the PCB's) so can't wait to show it off and do that typing video for you all :) And dw mate, the grey is legitimately very nice :D
Does anybody know what the SS M# fixtures are that come with the M60-A? I'm new to the kb community, and I don't know what the fixtures are. BTW Lake is the best color! ;D ;D
Fixtures = Screws :) SS = Stainless Steel, M = Metric! Lake is definitely super nice :D
(https://i.imgur.com/dBJV9S0.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/dBJV9S0.jpg)
Janglad made a render of SA Royalty on the M60a in the dusk colorway. (dusk master race!)
Oh my god they are made for eachother :O :O
Here are what keycap sizes you need, also some dimensions for people wanting to make sleeves/wristwrests etc:
(https://i.imgur.com/hpG6IVC.jpg)
Post by: stxfreak on Fri, 06 April 2018, 02:59:56
OK! I just put in my order this morning... went with Mooooooon - and the extra weight! My most expensive kb purchase (to date). It was a tough decision cause I want ALL colors. I'm a chicken and the price forced me to play it safe (I love the gray though so it's fine).
I know that feeling... stepping up from a CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S to a moon M60-a... Guess I'm doomed.
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 06 April 2018, 06:20:34
OK! I just put in my order this morning... went with Mooooooon - and the extra weight! My most expensive kb purchase (to date). It was a tough decision cause I want ALL colors. I'm a chicken and the price forced me to play it safe (I love the gray though so it's fine).
I know that feeling... stepping up from a CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S to a moon M60-a... Guess I'm doomed.
Indeed your dooooooomed! I start to join for a gray EXENT, thinking it will by my end game.. now I have it with also a lilac m65-a, and now waiting for Percent Canoe in silver/blue , CA66 in darkred, and m60 in moon ;D
Post by: tanvir175 on Fri, 06 April 2018, 15:49:18
OK! I just put in my order this morning... went with Mooooooon - and the extra weight! My most expensive kb purchase (to date). It was a tough decision cause I want ALL colors. I'm a chicken and the price forced me to play it safe (I love the gray though so it's fine).
I know that feeling... stepping up from a CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S to a moon M60-a... Guess I'm doomed.
Indeed your dooooooomed! I start to join for a gray EXENT, thinking it will by my end game.. now I have it with also a lilac m65-a, and now waiting for Percent Canoe in silver/blue , CA66 in darkred, and m60 in moon ;D
Dark red CA66 here, as well. I'm strongly considering changing my order to Moon. It's the nicest gray I've ever seen but then I'd have to wait for a different blue board for my GMK Nautilus.
@rama Should I want to change my order, do I pm you or send a support email?
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 07 April 2018, 00:40:01
OK! I just put in my order this morning... went with Mooooooon - and the extra weight! My most expensive kb purchase (to date). It was a tough decision cause I want ALL colors. I'm a chicken and the price forced me to play it safe (I love the gray though so it's fine).
I know that feeling... stepping up from a CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S to a moon M60-a... Guess I'm doomed.
Indeed your dooooooomed! I start to join for a gray EXENT, thinking it will by my end game.. now I have it with also a lilac m65-a, and now waiting for Percent Canoe in silver/blue , CA66 in darkred, and m60 in moon ;D
Dark red CA66 here, as well. I'm strongly considering changing my order to Moon. It's the nicest gray I've ever seen but then I'd have to wait for a different blue board for my GMK Nautilus.
@rama Should I want to change my order, do I pm you or send a support email?
Yeah! Just email support@rama.works with your order number (or simpler, just reply to your order confirmation email) and I'll adjust the order for you! Cheers :) The Moon is definitely super nice, really happy with how the colour came out :D
Post by: Muffin_Smasher on Sun, 08 April 2018, 17:33:43
Will you be using the same factory/ano source for your TKL board coming later this year? I only ask because i am having trouble deciding on an m60 color and if i knew any of these colors would be possible on the TKL i may decide different.
Specifically, i really like the Sage m60, however moon is sooooo good! If moon were to be available on the TKL then that means i could get both of the colors i like. :)
Post by: Midori on Sun, 08 April 2018, 18:41:14
Rama,Not sure if he could answer this question due to orginative being the ones who are running the TKL but if he can I'm sure he will.
Will you be using the same factory/ano source for your TKL board coming later this year? I only ask because i am having trouble deciding on an m60 color and if i knew any of these colors would be possible on the TKL i may decide different.
Specifically, i really like the Sage m60, however moon is sooooo good! If moon were to be available on the TKL then that means i could get both of the colors i like. :)
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Post by: KingRama on Sun, 08 April 2018, 22:06:49
Rama,
Will you be using the same factory/ano source for your TKL board coming later this year? I only ask because i am having trouble deciding on an m60 color and if i knew any of these colors would be possible on the TKL i may decide different.
Specifically, i really like the Sage m60, however moon is sooooo good! If moon were to be available on the TKL then that means i could get both of the colors i like. :)
Hey man! Unfortunately not, the TKL will be produced through Originatives channels rather than my own - so cannot assure that they will match (although if OCO decides to go with the same colours for the M60 - the colour references will be the same) :)
We have a moon prototype of the M60 on the way right now :D
Post by: ctrl on Mon, 09 April 2018, 02:54:03
OK! I just put in my order this morning... went with Mooooooon - and the extra weight! My most expensive kb purchase (to date). It was a tough decision cause I want ALL colors. I'm a chicken and the price forced me to play it safe (I love the gray though so it's fine).
I know that feeling... stepping up from a CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S to a moon M60-a... Guess I'm doomed.
Indeed your dooooooomed! I start to join for a gray EXENT, thinking it will by my end game.. now I have it with also a lilac m65-a, and now waiting for Percent Canoe in silver/blue , CA66 in darkred, and m60 in moon ;D
Dark red CA66 here, as well. I'm strongly considering changing my order to Moon. It's the nicest gray I've ever seen but then I'd have to wait for a different blue board for my GMK Nautilus.
@rama Should I want to change my order, do I pm you or send a support email?
Team Dark Red CA66 + Moon M60-A checking in here as well! :cool:
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 09 April 2018, 12:47:03
OK! I just put in my order this morning... went with Mooooooon - and the extra weight! My most expensive kb purchase (to date). It was a tough decision cause I want ALL colors. I'm a chicken and the price forced me to play it safe (I love the gray though so it's fine).
I know that feeling... stepping up from a CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S to a moon M60-a... Guess I'm doomed.
Indeed your dooooooomed! I start to join for a gray EXENT, thinking it will by my end game.. now I have it with also a lilac m65-a, and now waiting for Percent Canoe in silver/blue , CA66 in darkred, and m60 in moon ;D
Dark red CA66 here, as well. I'm strongly considering changing my order to Moon. It's the nicest gray I've ever seen but then I'd have to wait for a different blue board for my GMK Nautilus.
@rama Should I want to change my order, do I pm you or send a support email?
Team Dark Red CA66 + Moon M60-A checking in here as well! :cool:
I caved and changed it to Moon. I'll definitely miss the gorgeous Lake but I don't think I've seen a gray color done so well before. GMK Nautilus shouldn't mind being on Moon :)
Post by: Peppermint216 on Mon, 09 April 2018, 12:48:35
Post by: Lisinge on Mon, 09 April 2018, 14:15:45
Wheres the real photo samples of the grey?Are you talking about the last pic in this response? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94829.msg2583376#msg2583376
Post by: Peppermint216 on Mon, 09 April 2018, 14:23:27
Wheres the real photo samples of the grey?Are you talking about the last pic in this response? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94829.msg2583376#msg2583376
That's it, thanks. Almost looks black to me.
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 09 April 2018, 14:27:46
is it possible to have an optional carrying case for this?
Not at this point unfortunately - but there's a lot of cool artisan made sleeves like the ones stxfreak posted!
Here are some dimensions useful for getting a sleeve made:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/AOmnQ3X.png)Anyone see or know of some good renders of Dusk with some keysets?Any keysets you're interested in seeing specifically? :)
There's a few on the main rama.works site (in the slideshow)
GMK PLUMShow Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab4ef6788251b2e6b13e038/1521807228873/RAMA-M60-A-03.763.jpg)
GMK RED SAMURAIShow Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab3b9ce758d46f90e2eb292/1521727964488/RAMA-M60-A-03.750.jpg?format=2500w)
GMK 9009 w/ the new VIM kitShow Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab4ef522b6a289b6722ed84/1521807208681/RAMA-M60-A-03.761.jpg?format=2500w)
Here's how the colour looks next to Lake:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZtxtYOW.jpg)
And next to Moon:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0w6ymVt.jpg)In for two. So excited.
DUAL WIELD ! :eek:Anyone see or know of some good renders of Dusk with some keysets?
i summon rama
he's been spamming renders in IC threads, so i'm sure he'll be happy to make some more
100% let me know requests!
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dBJV9S0.jpg)
Janglad made a render of SA Royalty on the M60a in the dusk colorway. (dusk master race!)
mmhhh the colors seem different, however the janglad render is beautiful, as well as the keyset.
KMK Labs.
Post by: pab on Mon, 09 April 2018, 23:17:35
If only I could go for more colors, I went for moon to fit my GMK laser (kobe + blocknet), but I would love this Dusk also :3 ! First world problem I guess x)Mateeee, that's the ultimate combo - I'd be so content with that. Very much regret not getting in on laser :(
Wait KingRama, is Moon + Laser the ultimate combo or Dusk + Laser? I need to know... for science :P
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 10 April 2018, 16:40:18
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dBJV9S0.jpg)
Janglad made a render of SA Royalty on the M60a in the dusk colorway. (dusk master race!)
Is the dusk color really that dark or is it more pink? NEED TO KNOW. If it looks like this, I'm changing my mind on color for it.
Post by: tanvir175 on Tue, 10 April 2018, 16:44:38
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dBJV9S0.jpg)
Janglad made a render of SA Royalty on the M60a in the dusk colorway. (dusk master race!)
Is the dusk color really that dark or is it more pink? NEED TO KNOW. If it looks like this, I'm changing my mind on color for it.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94829.msg2583376#msg2583376
If only I could go for more colors, I went for moon to fit my GMK laser (kobe + blocknet), but I would love this Dusk also :3 ! First world problem I guess x)Mateeee, that's the ultimate combo - I'd be so content with that. Very much regret not getting in on laser :(
Wait KingRama, is Moon + Laser the ultimate combo or Dusk + Laser? I need to know... for science :P
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94829.msg2583629#msg2583629
Post by: pab on Tue, 10 April 2018, 16:47:34
If only I could go for more colors, I went for moon to fit my GMK laser (kobe + blocknet), but I would love this Dusk also :3 ! First world problem I guess x)Mateeee, that's the ultimate combo - I'd be so content with that. Very much regret not getting in on laser :(
Wait KingRama, is Moon + Laser the ultimate combo or Dusk + Laser? I need to know... for science :P
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94829.msg2583629#msg2583629
I don't understand your link or how it's relevant to my question. :-X
I've seen those pics, but I'm curious to what Rama thinks is the ultimate combo.
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Tue, 10 April 2018, 17:22:19
If only I could go for more colors, I went for moon to fit my GMK laser (kobe + blocknet), but I would love this Dusk also :3 ! First world problem I guess x)Mateeee, that's the ultimate combo - I'd be so content with that. Very much regret not getting in on laser :(
Wait KingRama, is Moon + Laser the ultimate combo or Dusk + Laser? I need to know... for science :P
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94829.msg2583629#msg2583629
I don't understand your link or how it's relevant to my question. :-X
I've seen those pics, but I'm curious to what Rama thinks is the ultimate combo.
I made the same misinterpretation. There was an implied "in your opinion" in your question that I didn't infer from the context. Regardless, that's a really cool link with a ton of renders.
Post by: tanvir175 on Tue, 10 April 2018, 17:32:17
If only I could go for more colors, I went for moon to fit my GMK laser (kobe + blocknet), but I would love this Dusk also :3 ! First world problem I guess x)Mateeee, that's the ultimate combo - I'd be so content with that. Very much regret not getting in on laser :(
Wait KingRama, is Moon + Laser the ultimate combo or Dusk + Laser? I need to know... for science :P
Like said above, it doesn't clearly state for his opinion. You could have been asking in general so I pointed you to the renders in case you haven't seen them.
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 11 April 2018, 07:24:16
Wheres the real photo samples of the grey?Are you talking about the last pic in this response? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94829.msg2583376#msg2583376 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94829.msg2583376#msg2583376)
That's it, thanks. Almost looks black to me.
A prototype in moon is on it's way soon :D
If only I could go for more colors, I went for moon to fit my GMK laser (kobe + blocknet), but I would love this Dusk also :3 ! First world problem I guess x)Mateeee, that's the ultimate combo - I'd be so content with that. Very much regret not getting in on laser :(
Wait KingRama, is Moon + Laser the ultimate combo or Dusk + Laser? I need to know... for science :p
OUUFFFF tough question... I'd say Moon, but I'm a sucker for monochromes :P
OK! I just put in my order this morning... went with Mooooooon - and the extra weight! My most expensive kb purchase (to date). It was a tough decision cause I want ALL colors. I'm a chicken and the price forced me to play it safe (I love the gray though so it's fine).
I know that feeling... stepping up from a CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S to a moon M60-a... Guess I'm doomed.
Indeed your dooooooomed! I start to join for a gray EXENT, thinking it will by my end game.. now I have it with also a lilac m65-a, and now waiting for Percent Canoe in silver/blue , CA66 in darkred, and m60 in moon ;D
Dark red CA66 here, as well. I'm strongly considering changing my order to Moon. It's the nicest gray I've ever seen but then I'd have to wait for a different blue board for my GMK Nautilus.
@rama Should I want to change my order, do I pm you or send a support email?
Team Dark Red CA66 + Moon M60-A checking in here as well! 8)
I caved and changed it to Moon. I'll definitely miss the gorgeous Lake but I don't think I've seen a gray color done so well before. GMK Nautilus shouldn't mind being on Moon :)
GMK Nautilus on Moon <3 I will be doing this too!! :-*
Post by: Lisinge on Wed, 11 April 2018, 07:50:18
Wheres the real photo samples of the grey?Are you talking about the last pic in this response? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94829.msg2583376#msg2583376 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94829.msg2583376#msg2583376)
That's it, thanks. Almost looks black to me.
A prototype in moon is on it's way soon :DIf only I could go for more colors, I went for moon to fit my GMK laser (kobe + blocknet), but I would love this Dusk also :3 ! First world problem I guess x)Mateeee, that's the ultimate combo - I'd be so content with that. Very much regret not getting in on laser :(
Wait KingRama, is Moon + Laser the ultimate combo or Dusk + Laser? I need to know... for science :p
OUUFFFF tough question... I'd say Moon, but I'm a sucker for monochromes :POK! I just put in my order this morning... went with Mooooooon - and the extra weight! My most expensive kb purchase (to date). It was a tough decision cause I want ALL colors. I'm a chicken and the price forced me to play it safe (I love the gray though so it's fine).
I know that feeling... stepping up from a CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S to a moon M60-a... Guess I'm doomed.
Indeed your dooooooomed! I start to join for a gray EXENT, thinking it will by my end game.. now I have it with also a lilac m65-a, and now waiting for Percent Canoe in silver/blue , CA66 in darkred, and m60 in moon ;D
Dark red CA66 here, as well. I'm strongly considering changing my order to Moon. It's the nicest gray I've ever seen but then I'd have to wait for a different blue board for my GMK Nautilus.
@rama Should I want to change my order, do I pm you or send a support email?
Team Dark Red CA66 + Moon M60-A checking in here as well! 8)
I caved and changed it to Moon. I'll definitely miss the gorgeous Lake but I don't think I've seen a gray color done so well before. GMK Nautilus shouldn't mind being on Moon :)
Looking forward to seeing that prototype. Still unsure if i want to change the colors of my m60’s
Post by: namgungh on Wed, 11 April 2018, 08:55:17
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 11 April 2018, 17:19:24
Here are what keycap sizes you need, also some dimensions for people wanting to make sleeves/wristwrests etc:It's a little tough to calculate based on the this picture but what is the total height from desk to the top of the R1 GMK keycap?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hpG6IVC.jpg)
Post by: mbsurfer on Thu, 12 April 2018, 08:05:20
Post by: onefivenine on Thu, 12 April 2018, 09:33:54
Post by: Midori on Thu, 12 April 2018, 11:23:36
Are there any photos (not renders) of the PVD brass back plate for rose gold & gold?The plate is aluminum unless you meant the weight. There should be some picturea of the gold weight from the sage prototype, but a dusk prototype hasn't been made.
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Post by: bball2 on Fri, 13 April 2018, 00:50:00
https://rama.works/#/m60-a/
12x sets of keycaps which you can check out all the different colors on.
Post by: vewy_nice on Fri, 13 April 2018, 08:55:38
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab3b9db1ae6cffd4ce37704/1521727976221/RAMA-M60-A-03.748.jpg?format=750w
I need.
I thought it was Coniferous, but that has grey mods.
Also nice to see a Taro set in there ;)
A lot of those keyset renders look REALLY muted/faded/pastel... I wonder if the board colors will be a bit darker in person, too?
I got a green, and I'd LOVE if it was a closer match to Nuclear Data :o
Post by: kmba on Fri, 13 April 2018, 08:58:57
What the heck keyset is this
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab3b9db1ae6cffd4ce37704/1521727976221/RAMA-M60-A-03.748.jpg?format=750w
I need.
I thought it was Coniferous, but that has grey mods.
Also nice to see a Taro set in there ;)
A lot of those keyset renders look REALLY muted/faded/pastel... I wonder if the board colors will be a bit darker in person, too?
I got a green, and I'd LOVE if it was a closer match to Nuclear Data :o
It's gmk camping with no accents.
Post by: Wilba on Fri, 13 April 2018, 09:13:01
Also nice to see a Taro set in there ;)
We're all big fans of Taro here! Rama and I both got a set! ;D
Post by: vewy_nice on Fri, 13 April 2018, 09:46:39
Also have GMK camping on the way, so that's exciting :o I ordered the green M60!
Definitely going to shamelessly copy that picture.
Post by: tanvir175 on Fri, 13 April 2018, 13:54:47
Also nice to see a Taro set in there ;)
We're all big fans of Taro here! Rama and I both got a set! ;D
I regret not getting one :(
Thought it was gonna be too much purple since I joined Laser but there's no such thing as too much purple
Post by: Midori on Fri, 13 April 2018, 13:59:48
Time to make up for that and pick up Violet Tendencies when it opens up.Also nice to see a Taro set in there ;)
We're all big fans of Taro here! Rama and I both got a set! ;D
I regret not getting one :(
Thought it was gonna be too much purple since I joined Laser but there's no such thing as too much purple
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Post by: tanvir175 on Fri, 13 April 2018, 14:31:53
Time to make up for that and pick up Violet Tendencies when it opens up.Also nice to see a Taro set in there ;)
We're all big fans of Taro here! Rama and I both got a set! ;D
I regret not getting one :(
Thought it was gonna be too much purple since I joined Laser but there's no such thing as too much purple
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I was thinking GMK Phantom :O
White Alphas aren't really my thing. I don't dislike them, I just don't prefer them.
Post by: RSC on Fri, 13 April 2018, 14:58:23
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 14 April 2018, 23:29:18
Any news on GMK Heavy Duty?
Will have something to show next month (fingers crossed)! ;)
Are there any photos (not renders) of the PVD brass back plate for rose gold & gold?
I've got samples of the PVD metals (on a different product) - I'll grab some photos for you later when I have some good natural lighting :)
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 15 April 2018, 05:42:17
Post by: forstsiven on Mon, 16 April 2018, 00:51:15
Any chance we can get renders with troubled minds? ;D
Could I see SP SA Song on lake, dusk and sage.
Post by: MoebiuS451 on Tue, 17 April 2018, 05:18:06
Hello, do you have any renders (from above and isometric) with SP SA keysets (for instance Carbon SA with Dusk, Dolch SA with Sage or Dasher SA with Lake) ?
Hello, still no SA renders ? Only 3 days before the closing ! :p
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 17 April 2018, 09:04:47
Are there any photos (not renders) of the PVD brass back plate for rose gold & gold?(https://i.imgur.com/vyku3Om.jpg)
Here you go (MIST, MOON, ROSE, GOLD, IGNORE THE BLUE) :p
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Here's the PCB with our signature gray soldermask! (By Wilba)
(https://i.imgur.com/siSWimQ.jpg)
Waiting on some proper models for SA :( GB will be extended to show off a proper typing video, moon proto will be arriving soon :DHello, do you have any renders (from above and isometric) with SP SA keysets (for instance Carbon SA with Dusk, Dolch SA with Sage or Dasher SA with Lake) ?
Hello, still no SA renders ? Only 3 days before the closing ! :p
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 17 April 2018, 09:09:58
Dayumn that looks good. ALSO WHY ARE WE IGNORING THE BLUEAre there any photos (not renders) of the PVD brass back plate for rose gold & gold?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vyku3Om.jpg)
Here you go (MIST, MOON, ROSE, GOLD, IGNORE THE BLUE)
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Here's the PCB with our signature gray soldermask! (By Wilba)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/siSWimQ.jpg)Waiting on some proper models for SA :( GB will be extended to show off a proper typing video, moon proto will be arriving soon :DHello, do you have any renders (from above and isometric) with SP SA keysets (for instance Carbon SA with Dusk, Dolch SA with Sage or Dasher SA with Lake) ?
Hello, still no SA renders ? Only 3 days before the closing !
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Post by: vewy_nice on Tue, 17 April 2018, 09:11:11
It's reminiscent of a finely-crafted watch.
Post by: Solotov on Tue, 17 April 2018, 09:25:23
For now, can't wait for my sage/gold. That PCB looks incredible :thumb:
Post by: Kerasan on Tue, 17 April 2018, 09:34:05
Dayumn that looks good. ALSO WHY ARE WE IGNORING THE BLUEAre there any photos (not renders) of the PVD brass back plate for rose gold & gold?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vyku3Om.jpg)
Here you go (MIST, MOON, ROSE, GOLD, IGNORE THE BLUE)
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Here's the PCB with our signature gray soldermask! (By Wilba)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/siSWimQ.jpg)Waiting on some proper models for SA :( GB will be extended to show off a proper typing video, moon proto will be arriving soon :DHello, do you have any renders (from above and isometric) with SP SA keysets (for instance Carbon SA with Dusk, Dolch SA with Sage or Dasher SA with Lake) ?
Hello, still no SA renders ? Only 3 days before the closing !
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because there is no color for the back weight :thumb:
KMK Labs.
Post by: krispy on Tue, 17 April 2018, 11:20:27
Quote
Waiting on some proper models for SA :( GB will be extended to show off a proper typing video, moon proto will be arriving soon :D
Nice! Any idea what the new GB deadline will be? I'm still trying to make up my mind on color.
Post by: mbsurfer on Tue, 17 April 2018, 12:07:36
Are there any photos (not renders) of the PVD brass back plate for rose gold & gold?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vyku3Om.jpg)
Here you go (MIST, MOON, ROSE, GOLD, IGNORE THE BLUE) :p
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Here's the PCB with our signature gray soldermask! (By Wilba)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/siSWimQ.jpg)Waiting on some proper models for SA :( GB will be extended to show off a proper typing video, moon proto will be arriving soon :DHello, do you have any renders (from above and isometric) with SP SA keysets (for instance Carbon SA with Dusk, Dolch SA with Sage or Dasher SA with Lake) ?
Hello, still no SA renders ? Only 3 days before the closing ! :p
Moon and Gold would look so good together. Moon with Gold sunken lettering :cheffingers:
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 17 April 2018, 12:18:30
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 17 April 2018, 18:48:49
Dayumn that looks good. ALSO WHY ARE WE IGNORING THE BLUE
LOL, goddamn I shouldn't have shown it ey? :p
Too many SKU's had to be selective :p
Blue PVD is my favorite color.
It's reminiscent of a finely-crafted watch.
Hnnng yeah, like all the tiny watch hands and stuff - beautiful.
Nice! Any idea what the new GB deadline will be? I'm still trying to make up my mind on color.
Will be end of month, want to properly show off a typing video and colour samples etc :) Will help you decide!
Moon and Gold would look so good together. Moon with Gold sunken lettering :cheffingers:
Oh my yes... need a dark grey with gold legends keycap set :o I guess what Red Samurai has for the mods, but for the alphas too :o
Rose or gold weight for red samurai?
Gold! Match the accents :D
Post by: pnkpanther65 on Tue, 17 April 2018, 19:54:49
Jtk Yolch for those gold alphaDayumn that looks good. ALSO WHY ARE WE IGNORING THE BLUE
LOL, goddamn I shouldn't have shown it ey?
Too many SKU's had to be selectiveBlue PVD is my favorite color.
It's reminiscent of a finely-crafted watch.
Hnnng yeah, like all the tiny watch hands and stuff - beautiful.Nice! Any idea what the new GB deadline will be? I'm still trying to make up my mind on color.
Will be end of month, want to properly show off a typing video and colour samples etc :) Will help you decide!Moon and Gold would look so good together. Moon with Gold sunken lettering :cheffingers:
Oh my yes... need a dark grey with gold legends keycap set :o I guess what Red Samurai has for the mods, but for the alphas too :oRose or gold weight for red samurai?
Gold! Match the accents :D
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Post by: Lormania on Tue, 17 April 2018, 22:02:43
Post by: onefivenine on Thu, 19 April 2018, 00:51:57
Do you know if the extra internal weight changes the acoustics?
Thanks in advance!
Post by: blacksimon on Thu, 19 April 2018, 06:20:48
Post by: chevovish on Thu, 19 April 2018, 11:00:28
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 19 April 2018, 11:10:17
What is the keyset on this one? I cannot find it anywhere. Looks so good...
Not sure, really. Maybe it's supposed to be GMK Penumbra with the Solarized kit? Although the alphas look more creamy than they should if that's the case. The mods look like a rendered version of Penumbra (more greenish tint, even though IRL they are more blue and almost black). Well hell, now it appears I have no idea.
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 19 April 2018, 11:18:11
What is the keyset on this one? I cannot find it anywhere. Looks so good...
Looks like solarized penumbra to me.
Secondly is it confirmed the GB end has been pushed back and not tomorrow?
EDIT; confirmed on Rama's facebook page. GB deadline pushed to end of the month
Post by: kmba on Thu, 19 April 2018, 11:40:10
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 19 April 2018, 12:05:19
Secondly is it confirmed the GB end has been pushed back and not tomorrow?
Confirmed, quoting his instagram:
Quote
We have extended the groupbuy until the end of the month to show off the revised moon prototype and various typing video's - we're super excited to show off all the LED features and feedback this keyboard provides.
To clarify, it's a revised prototype, not a revised Moon color :D
Post by: Marutks on Thu, 19 April 2018, 12:13:38
Post by: stxfreak on Thu, 19 April 2018, 12:19:43
Secondly is it confirmed the GB end has been pushed back and not tomorrow?
Confirmed, quoting his instagram:QuoteWe have extended the groupbuy until the end of the month to show off the revised moon prototype and various typing video's - we're super excited to show off all the LED features and feedback this keyboard provides.
To clarify, it's a revised prototype, not a revised Moon color :D
Is that kate in the instagram video, or do you have the built sage prototype? :D
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 19 April 2018, 15:27:53
Post by: gaunt on Thu, 19 April 2018, 16:48:39
Post by: xondat on Thu, 19 April 2018, 17:00:01
Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 April 2018, 17:28:01
What is the keyset on this one? I cannot find it anywhere. Looks so good...
It is a render. Look at that shadow.
Post by: G1LL3Y on Fri, 20 April 2018, 07:24:16
Post by: stxfreak on Fri, 20 April 2018, 07:47:21
So I'm thinking that for my Lake M60-A I may pair it with the SA Abyss keycaps. What do y'all think?? I would love to see that in a render if anyone could do that.
You should get a moon weight to go with that, would probably look sick.
Post by: PhantomTaco on Fri, 20 April 2018, 07:49:58
Post by: G1LL3Y on Fri, 20 April 2018, 08:09:28
So I'm thinking that for my Lake M60-A I may pair it with the SA Abyss keycaps. What do y'all think?? I would love to see that in a render if anyone could do that.
You should get a moon weight to go with that, would probably look sick.
Feel like GMK Yuri would look fantastic on the Lake color.
I already am in for the internal weight so maybe I will pick one up at a later date if Rama has any extra external weights. Currently my pockets beginning to run dry from all the kb purchases I have made recently.
As for GMK, I recently got into this hobby and I believe GMK only make cherry profile switches? I have tried cherry profile switches before and I didn't care for the sharp edges, or the real narrow keycap tops. So far I like DSA and I recently bought SA Solarized for the Lake M60-A, but I also really like the color palette of SA Abyss and I would assume that uniform row 3 SA would just be like a tall DSA. If y'all have any experience with uniform SA please let me know your thoughts.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 April 2018, 08:21:02
So I'm thinking that for my Lake M60-A I may pair it with the SA Abyss keycaps. What do y'all think?? I would love to see that in a render if anyone could do that.
You should get a moon weight to go with that, would probably look sick.Feel like GMK Yuri would look fantastic on the Lake color.
I already am in for the internal weight so maybe I will pick one up at a later date if Rama has any extra external weights. Currently my pockets beginning to run dry from all the kb purchases I have made recently.
As for GMK, I recently got into this hobby and I believe GMK only make cherry profile switches? I have tried cherry profile switches before and I didn't care for the sharp edges, or the real narrow keycap tops. So far I like DSA and I recently bought SA Solarized for the Lake M60-A, but I also really like the color palette of SA Abyss and I would assume that uniform row 3 SA would just be like a tall DSA. If y'all have any experience with uniform SA please let me know your thoughts.
I think that what you mean by "Cherry profile switches" is key caps in Cherry profile, if then, the answer is yes, GMK only manufactures Cherry key caps. SA and DSA key caps are made by Signature Plastics in the US. SA key caps in uniform profile feel close to DSA, but the taller height and larger weight makes typing on them different. Just for the record, keyboard switches are the actuators under the key caps.
Post by: G1LL3Y on Fri, 20 April 2018, 08:25:32
So I'm thinking that for my Lake M60-A I may pair it with the SA Abyss keycaps. What do y'all think?? I would love to see that in a render if anyone could do that.
You should get a moon weight to go with that, would probably look sick.Feel like GMK Yuri would look fantastic on the Lake color.
I already am in for the internal weight so maybe I will pick one up at a later date if Rama has any extra external weights. Currently my pockets beginning to run dry from all the kb purchases I have made recently.
As for GMK, I recently got into this hobby and I believe GMK only make cherry profile switches? I have tried cherry profile switches before and I didn't care for the sharp edges, or the real narrow keycap tops. So far I like DSA and I recently bought SA Solarized for the Lake M60-A, but I also really like the color palette of SA Abyss and I would assume that uniform row 3 SA would just be like a tall DSA. If y'all have any experience with uniform SA please let me know your thoughts.
I think that what you mean by "Cherry profile switches" is key caps in Cherry profile, if then, the answer is yes, GMK only manufactures Cherry key caps. SA and DSA key caps are made by Signature Plastics in the US. SA key caps in uniform profile feel close to DSA, but the taller height and larger weight makes typing on them different. Just for the record, keyboard switches are the actuators under the key caps.
Yeah I was meaning cherry profile key caps not switches. I think the Lake color will be for me; however, we will see when Rama does the typing demos with the updated moon prototype.
Post by: Marutks on Fri, 20 April 2018, 12:09:05
Feel like GMK Yuri would look fantastic on the Lake color.
Nautilus keycaps would look fantastic too!
Do you think black M60 would look good with LedZep keycaps? better than moon?
Post by: G1LL3Y on Fri, 20 April 2018, 17:15:31
Feel like GMK Yuri would look fantastic on the Lake color.
Nautilus keycaps would look fantastic too!
Do you think black M60 would look good with LedZep keycaps? better than moon?
I would think that the KURO M60A would look really good with the LedZep key caps. Personally I like good contrast and I think you would get better results with the KURO vs the moon.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 20 April 2018, 17:55:58
Post by: xondat on Fri, 20 April 2018, 17:57:03
Is the PCB hot swappable? Thank you！
Yes, it uses Kailh sockets.
Post by: forstsiven on Sat, 21 April 2018, 12:35:44
Is the PCB hot swappable? Thank you！
Yes, it uses Kailh sockets.
m60-a is going to be my first mech kb, would those kailh sockets work with Zealios?
Post by: xondat on Sat, 21 April 2018, 12:37:59
Is the PCB hot swappable? Thank you！
Yes, it uses Kailh sockets.
m60-a is going to be my first mech kb, would those kailh sockets work with Zealios?
Yes, anything Cherry MX style, so Cherry/Gateron (Zealio)/Kailh (Box)/etc.
Post by: forstsiven on Sat, 21 April 2018, 13:04:41
Is the PCB hot swappable? Thank you！
Yes, it uses Kailh sockets.
m60-a is going to be my first mech kb, would those kailh sockets work with Zealios?
Yes, anything Cherry MX style, so Cherry/Gateron (Zealio)/Kailh (Box)/etc.
Thanks for the prompt reply. I figured so, but figured I might as well double-check before purchasing.
Post by: bisoromi on Sat, 21 April 2018, 13:09:15
Post by: PhantomTaco on Sat, 21 April 2018, 15:53:28
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 22 April 2018, 05:53:29
Any update on the sound dampening lining and if it makes any difference?
last I heard, RAMA was still testing the sound properties of the mat.
Post by: stxfreak on Sun, 22 April 2018, 06:32:44
Any update on the sound dampening lining and if it makes any difference?
last I heard, RAMA was still testing the sound properties of the mat.
I don't think he will update us before he got the new moon prototype next week and puts it all together. I think he said the video for typingtest etc. would be out on wednesday.
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 22 April 2018, 12:10:37
Typing sound video is up on RAMA’s Instagram story. Don’t think it has sound mat, though I could be wrong.Any update on the sound dampening lining and if it makes any difference?
last I heard, RAMA was still testing the sound properties of the mat.
I don't think he will update us before he got the new moon prototype next week and puts it all together. I think he said the video for typingtest etc. would be out on wednesday.
Post by: mbsurfer on Sun, 22 April 2018, 12:17:17
Typing sound video is up on RAMA’s Instagram story. Don’t think it has sound mat, though I could be wrong.Any update on the sound dampening lining and if it makes any difference?
last I heard, RAMA was still testing the sound properties of the mat.
I don't think he will update us before he got the new moon prototype next week and puts it all together. I think he said the video for typingtest etc. would be out on wednesday.
It's pretty quiet:
https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/4055aee94cb7c683fa8bd01212e86673/5ADF2EBA/t50.12441-16/30868810_212113276068717_382089603090603325_n.mp4 (https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/4055aee94cb7c683fa8bd01212e86673/5ADF2EBA/t50.12441-16/30868810_212113276068717_382089603090603325_n.mp4)
Post by: pnkpanther65 on Sun, 22 April 2018, 12:18:24
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Post by: xondat on Sun, 22 April 2018, 12:20:39
Post by: stxfreak on Sun, 22 April 2018, 12:30:47
Post by: Kerasan on Sun, 22 April 2018, 13:34:53
KMK Labs.
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 23 April 2018, 21:08:34
would need a good video test on the youtube channel as for the M6 :thumb:
KMK Labs.
Yep! Moon proto arrived today :) Will be doing the videos over tomorrow (public holiday here in Melbourne) will also show the colour samples more in depth in various lighting! And try out a few different switch types :)
Post by: Midori on Mon, 23 April 2018, 21:11:31
MX Zilents? :thinking:would need a good video test on the youtube channel as for the M6 :thumb:
KMK Labs.
Yep! Moon proto arrived today :) Will be doing the videos over tomorrow (public holiday here in Melbourne) will also show the colour samples more in depth in various lighting! And try out a few different switch types :)
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Post by: Kerasan on Tue, 24 April 2018, 02:06:38
would need a good video test on the youtube channel as for the M6 :thumb:
KMK Labs.
Yep! Moon proto arrived today :) Will be doing the videos over tomorrow (public holiday here in Melbourne) will also show the colour samples more in depth in various lighting! And try out a few different switch types :)
TOP :thumb:
KMK Labs.
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 25 April 2018, 09:14:10
Post by: midnight2903 on Wed, 25 April 2018, 09:33:33
Videos up!
Will there be better daughter board cables for production units?
I was sweating when the cables were being plugged in.
Post by: zumu on Wed, 25 April 2018, 10:24:45
Post by: up-in on Wed, 25 April 2018, 12:35:49
Videos up!
When is pre order end if i still want to change the color? I chose Moon because it's the safest color to pair with any keycaps but it is boring imo. Dusk and Lake are just too god irl.
Post by: eyedrop on Wed, 25 April 2018, 13:29:11
Post by: bball2 on Wed, 25 April 2018, 14:22:24
When is pre order end if i still want to change the color? I chose Moon because it's the safest color to pair with any keycaps but it is boring imo. Dusk and Lake are just too god irl.
I think I'm on the same page as you, ordered mist, but might have to change it to Sage or Lake after the video :cool:
Post by: s3vv4 on Wed, 25 April 2018, 16:26:46
Post by: Lisinge on Wed, 25 April 2018, 16:28:01
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 25 April 2018, 19:31:38
What happened with the switch holes on the grey one? :D
They were revised from the first prototype. Now they touch the switch more on the left/right sides, all the way to the corners.
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 25 April 2018, 20:28:24
How did you end up using flat head screws? I hate those more than any :(
That's just for the prototype, production will have Phillips head for all internal :)
I just personally enjoy the look of slotted screws haha
When is pre order end if i still want to change the color? I chose Moon because it's the safest color to pair with any keycaps but it is boring imo. Dusk and Lake are just too god irl.
You have until the 30th to adjust the colors :) You can email support@rama.works (or better just reply to your order confirmation email) and I can adjust it :)
I didn't see any samples if the Mist color? Is it supposed to be the same as the macro pad on the left? That is to say, will it be shiny instead of matte like the other cases?
Mist/Kuro will be the same finish/shinyness as the other anodized sample blocks just in those colours :)
Post by: _PixelNinja on Thu, 26 April 2018, 05:48:28
Will there be better daughter board cables for production units?I came here to ask this too.
Post by: Lisinge on Thu, 26 April 2018, 06:03:01
What happened with the switch holes on the grey one? :D
They were revised from the first prototype. Now they touch the switch more on the left/right sides, all the way to the corners.
Cool, thanks! I spoke to rama about this before because i found it odd to have switch-top removable holes on a board with hotswap sockets :p
Post by: MoebiuS451 on Thu, 26 April 2018, 08:22:00
Hello, do you have any renders (from above and isometric) with SP SA keysets (for instance Carbon SA with Dusk, Dolch SA with Sage or Dasher SA with Lake) ?
Hello, you still don't have renders for SA keysets ? At least from above to assess color matching, like Carbon SA, Miami SA, Dasher SA with Lake, Troubled Mind SA with sage....
The easy choice would be the grey but I have yet many cnc grey cases...
Post by: DePulse on Thu, 26 April 2018, 08:26:47
Post by: Puree on Thu, 26 April 2018, 08:43:44
Will there be better daughter board cables for production units?I came here to ask this too.
This :thumb:
Post by: tanvir175 on Thu, 26 April 2018, 08:46:41
Is it possible to pay thru paypal? Kinda wanna use 2 of my credit cards for this. My card limit is not enough for 1 lol I need a split payment transcation :( really want these so bad
It's possible to pay through paypal but idk if you can split payments up. You might wanna PM or email RAMA to work that out.
Post by: Kerasan on Thu, 26 April 2018, 08:50:42
Hello, do you have any renders (from above and isometric) with SP SA keysets (for instance Carbon SA with Dusk, Dolch SA with Sage or Dasher SA with Lake) ?
Hello, you still don't have renders for SA keysets ? At least from above to asses color matching, like Carbon SA, Miami SA, Dasher SA with Lake, Troubled Mind SA with sage....
The easy choice would be the grey but I have yet many cnc grey cases...
this Saturday the video will be released with SA keyset and other switches :thumb:
KMK Labs.
P.s. however it would have been nice to add the colors of the type C cable as the colors of the cases to make the product more complete.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 26 April 2018, 08:51:16
Post by: DePulse on Thu, 26 April 2018, 09:21:34
Is it possible to pay thru paypal? Kinda wanna use 2 of my credit cards for this. My card limit is not enough for 1 lol I need a split payment transcation :( really want these so bad
It's possible to pay through paypal but idk if you can split payments up. You might wanna PM or email RAMA to work that out.
I will try to pm Rama. Maybe there is an option.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 26 April 2018, 17:14:06
Does the PCB fit standard sixty cases?
it uses a daughterboard, so i think not
Post by: Cas on Fri, 27 April 2018, 04:20:12
Post by: monkt on Sat, 28 April 2018, 18:28:02
Post by: xondat on Sat, 28 April 2018, 19:00:29
This is a keyboard that I'm hoping would last me a very long time. So, lets say I fry the pcb down the line, are there readily available alternate pcbs that would work/fit with this case if spares of the original were no longer available? Or would it more or less become a very beautiful, but expensive paperweight?
Sorry for the repost, KingRama, I'm interested as to whether individual PCBs will be for sale in your store after the conclusion of the GB?
We always buy extra PCB's to stock on-hand for support/replacement related things, but these are typically not available for immediate purchase through the site. For instance we have about 30-40 spare M6-A PCB's at the moment :)
:thumb:
Post by: monkt on Sat, 28 April 2018, 19:24:04
This is a keyboard that I'm hoping would last me a very long time. So, lets say I fry the pcb down the line, are there readily available alternate pcbs that would work/fit with this case if spares of the original were no longer available? Or would it more or less become a very beautiful, but expensive paperweight?Sorry for the repost, KingRama, I'm interested as to whether individual PCBs will be for sale in your store after the conclusion of the GB?
We always buy extra PCB's to stock on-hand for support/replacement related things, but these are typically not available for immediate purchase through the site. For instance we have about 30-40 spare M6-A PCB's at the moment :)
:thumb:
I was thinking about the possibility of the vendor no longer being able to provide a replacement pcb, say in 2-4 yrs. At this price, I'd like to know whether any alternate 60% pcbs would be a viable option, or if the design of the case makes that impossible without some kind of modification.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 28 April 2018, 19:25:06
This is a keyboard that I'm hoping would last me a very long time. So, lets say I fry the pcb down the line, are there readily available alternate pcbs that would work/fit with this case if spares of the original were no longer available? Or would it more or less become a very beautiful, but expensive paperweight?Sorry for the repost, KingRama, I'm interested as to whether individual PCBs will be for sale in your store after the conclusion of the GB?
We always buy extra PCB's to stock on-hand for support/replacement related things, but these are typically not available for immediate purchase through the site. For instance we have about 30-40 spare M6-A PCB's at the moment :)
:thumb:
I was thinking about the possibility of the vendor no longer being able to provide a replacement pcb, say in 2-4 yrs. At this price, I'd like to know whether any alternate 60% pcbs would be a viable option, or if the design of the case makes that impossible without some kind of modification.
Rama is going to be around for a while.
The PCB is not standard.
Post by: moitorpsychoo on Sat, 28 April 2018, 19:27:08
This is a keyboard that I'm hoping would last me a very long time. So, lets say I fry the pcb down the line, are there readily available alternate pcbs that would work/fit with this case if spares of the original were no longer available? Or would it more or less become a very beautiful, but expensive paperweight?Sorry for the repost, KingRama, I'm interested as to whether individual PCBs will be for sale in your store after the conclusion of the GB?
We always buy extra PCB's to stock on-hand for support/replacement related things, but these are typically not available for immediate purchase through the site. For instance we have about 30-40 spare M6-A PCB's at the moment :)
:thumb:
I was thinking about the possibility of the vendor no longer being able to provide a replacement pcb, say in 2-4 yrs. At this price, I'd like to know whether any alternate 60% pcbs would be a viable option, or if the design of the case makes that impossible without some kind of modification.
I have the same concern.
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Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 28 April 2018, 19:31:03
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 28 April 2018, 19:42:35
Rama being around in 2-4 years does not necessarily mean the pcb will still be around as well. Tbh, I had the same concerns, but then I realized the only reason I'd need a pcb is if there was some sort of manufacturing fault that caused the pcb to die out in let's say 2 years. Then again, if my garbage razer made it for 2 years, I have no reason to think that the m60a would last me any less.
The PCB's will be continued to be made, some of our products down the line will be using the exact same PCB :)
is there any real photo on kuro colour sample?, i have a hard choice between moon and kuro
Unfortunately not, black anodisation is pretty consistent across all products (it's mainly just surface finish which changes the appearance) - it'll be same surface finish as the other samples, just black :)
Is it possible to pay thru paypal? Kinda wanna use 2 of my credit cards for this. My card limit is not enough for 1 lol I need a split payment transcation :( really want these so bad
You can buy giftcards using different cards then pay using giftcards :)
Will there be better daughter board cables for production units?I came here to ask this too.
That was a prototype cable, we have another which is shrouded - we're still evaluating what works best for the board - the one that was shown is super durable (however it most likely will be coupled together rather loose if we use that one)
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 28 April 2018, 19:53:25
Rama being around in 2-4 years does not necessarily mean the pcb will still be around as well. Tbh, I had the same concerns, but then I realized the only reason I'd need a pcb is if there was some sort of manufacturing fault that caused the pcb to die out in let's say 2 years. Then again, if my garbage razer made it for 2 years, I have no reason to think that the m60a would last me any less.
The PCB's will be continued to be made, some of our products down the line will be using the exact same PCB :)
That's great news Rama, thanks for chiming in. It definitely puts my mind at ease now :)
One last question, I'm wondering if you could chime in on what percentage of total orders include an internal weight? I don't need an exact percentage, anything off the top of your head will suffice. I'm having a hard time deciding so I figure I would just go with the popular vote.
Post by: monkt on Sat, 28 April 2018, 19:57:15
Rama being around in 2-4 years does not necessarily mean the pcb will still be around as well. Tbh, I had the same concerns, but then I realized the only reason I'd need a pcb is if there was some sort of manufacturing fault that caused the pcb to die out in let's say 2 years. Then again, if my garbage razer made it for 2 years, I have no reason to think that the m60a would last me any less.
I've seen a couple of people mention frying their pcb with static electric discharge. I get that pretty bad in the winter where I live, and with this being an all metal case, it seemed like something I should consider.
Also, aren't these hot swap pcbs a relatively new design? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But if so, the durability of the hot swap feature may not yet be proven. In which case, it might well become necessary to find a replacement.
Post by: tanvir175 on Sat, 28 April 2018, 20:00:51
Rama being around in 2-4 years does not necessarily mean the pcb will still be around as well. Tbh, I had the same concerns, but then I realized the only reason I'd need a pcb is if there was some sort of manufacturing fault that caused the pcb to die out in let's say 2 years. Then again, if my garbage razer made it for 2 years, I have no reason to think that the m60a would last me any less.
I've seen a couple of people mention frying their pcb with static electric discharge. I get that pretty bad in the winter where I live, and with this being an all metal case, it seemed like something I should consider.
Also, aren't these hot swap pcbs a relatively new design? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But if so, the durability of the hot swap feature may not yet be proven. In which case, it might well become necessary to find a replacement.
I believe that issue was more with the nylon bottom's but I'm not up to date on M65-A stuff.
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 28 April 2018, 20:03:05
The static charge issue was with the m65a and is believed to be a result of the nylon base, which isn't a problem for this kit.
Rama being around in 2-4 years does not necessarily mean the pcb will still be around as well. Tbh, I had the same concerns, but then I realized the only reason I'd need a pcb is if there was some sort of manufacturing fault that caused the pcb to die out in let's say 2 years. Then again, if my garbage razer made it for 2 years, I have no reason to think that the m60a would last me any less.
I've seen a couple of people mention frying their pcb with static electric discharge. I get that pretty bad in the winter where I live, and with this being an all metal case, it seemed like something I should consider.
Also, aren't these hot swap pcbs a relatively new design? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But if so, the durability of the hot swap feature may not yet be proven. In which case, it might well become necessary to find a replacement.
You are right in that long term consumer testing has not been done with hotswap pcbs. I would imagine, just like with everything else, there will be wear and tear over time as you take out switches and replace them. How many times of switch switching will it take until the tolerance becomes too loose and a good connection isn't made with the switch pins? I don't think anyone knows the answer to that. I would like to believe that kailh has tested this and wouldn't release this technology unless it could handle over 100 times of taking a switch out and putting it back in.
Nonetheless, Rama said he will continue supporting the pcb, and Mike from novelkeys also sells the kailh hotswap sockets indicidually. So future proofing is definitely available. My mind is at complete ease now.
Post by: mgsickler on Sat, 28 April 2018, 20:05:09
Rama being around in 2-4 years does not necessarily mean the pcb will still be around as well. Tbh, I had the same concerns, but then I realized the only reason I'd need a pcb is if there was some sort of manufacturing fault that caused the pcb to die out in let's say 2 years. Then again, if my garbage razer made it for 2 years, I have no reason to think that the m60a would last me any less.
I've seen a couple of people mention frying their pcb with static electric discharge. I get that pretty bad in the winter where I live, and with this being an all metal case, it seemed like something I should consider.
Also, aren't these hot swap pcbs a relatively new design? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But if so, the durability of the hot swap feature may not yet be proven. In which case, it might well become necessary to find a replacement.
Kaihua does pretty thorough stress testing on all their products. I wouldn’t have any concerns with their durability.
Post by: monkt on Sat, 28 April 2018, 21:54:52
The static charge issue was with the m65a and is believed to be a result of the nylon base, which isn't a problem for this kit.
You are right in that long term consumer testing has not been done with hotswap pcbs. I would imagine, just like with everything else, there will be wear and tear over time as you take out switches and replace them. How many times of switch switching will it take until the tolerance becomes too loose and a good connection isn't made with the switch pins? I don't think anyone knows the answer to that. I would like to believe that kailh has tested this and wouldn't release this technology unless it could handle over 100 times of taking a switch out and putting it back in.
Nonetheless, Rama said he will continue supporting the pcb, and Mike from novelkeys also sells the kailh hotswap sockets indicidually. So future proofing is definitely available. My mind is at complete ease now.
Thanks. I actually tried to phrase my comment so as to not blame the Rama board. I don't have personal experience with it. What I do have experience with is shocking the hell out of my macbook this past winter, probably about a hundred times all together. Sometimes I feel like a walking Tesla coil. So really it's not that I have any complaint regarding Rama's design--it's my own body that gives me pause. And given that, I have to question the wisdom of getting myself an all metal board like this, as beautiful as it is. If I knew I could easily get non-proprietary replacement parts every time a minor electrical explosion burst forth from my fingertip, I might feel a little better. That being said, I really do want one, in about three different colors.
Post by: Lisinge on Sun, 29 April 2018, 03:57:28
That's great news Rama, thanks for chiming in. It definitely puts my mind at ease now :)
One last question, I'm wondering if you could chime in on what percentage of total orders include an internal weight? I don't need an exact percentage, anything off the top of your head will suffice. I'm having a hard time deciding so I figure I would just go with the popular vote.
When i asked, which was end of march to be fair, but then the number was about 60%.
I thought about this for some time too. But i ended on getting the internal weight because i really like a hefty board and i wanted to make this board as luxurious as possible :D
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sun, 29 April 2018, 04:02:10
I just placed my order 20 mins ago, didn't want to cut it to close to GB deadline and not be able to get my order in at all. Ended up watching his YouTube video and I didn't notice a huge difference in acoustics, which is what I was mostly concerned about. So I didn't get the internal weight and decided to save the money for some keycaps to go with my board :)
That's great news Rama, thanks for chiming in. It definitely puts my mind at ease now :)
One last question, I'm wondering if you could chime in on what percentage of total orders include an internal weight? I don't need an exact percentage, anything off the top of your head will suffice. I'm having a hard time deciding so I figure I would just go with the popular vote.
When i asked, which was end of march to be fair, but then the number was about 60%.
I thought about this for some time too. But i ended on getting the internal weight because i really like a hefty board and i wanted to make this board as luxurious as possible :D
Post by: Lisinge on Sun, 29 April 2018, 04:04:24
I just placed my order 20 mins ago, didn't want to cut it to close to GB deadline and not be able to get my order in at all. Ended up watching his YouTube video and I didn't notice a huge difference in acoustics, which is what I was mostly concerned about. So I didn't get the internal weight and decided to save the money for some keycaps to go with my board :)
Awesome dude! I'm sure you will be satisfied with that choice :D
What color did you get and which keycap set are you looking at getting with it? :D
Post by: onefivenine on Sun, 29 April 2018, 10:04:18
Looks like the PCB will support PCB mounted switches?
Post by: xondat on Sun, 29 April 2018, 10:09:58
Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2689/3156/products/RAMA-M60-A-03.725_2048x2048.jpg)
Looks like the PCB will support PCB mounted switches?
Correct
Post by: Hokabuki on Sun, 29 April 2018, 19:27:30
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 29 April 2018, 20:40:03
I submitted my order for an M60-A a week or two ago. I'm wondering if I buy the starter kit now, what's the best way to not pay twice for shipping? Or will the starter kit be available longer than the normal group buy?
There are no plans to stock starter kits after the group buy, the intent was only to give a "build out of the box" experience for M60-A.
I think changing your current order would be fine. Contact Rama Works.
Post by: MoebiuS451 on Mon, 30 April 2018, 03:23:28
Hello, do you have any renders (from above and isometric) with SP SA keysets (for instance Carbon SA with Dusk, Dolch SA with Sage or Dasher SA with Lake) ?
Hello, you still don't have renders for SA keysets ? At least from above to assess color matching, like Carbon SA, Miami SA, Dasher SA with Lake, Troubled Mind SA with sage....
The easy choice would be the grey but I have yet many cnc grey cases...
Hi, when the pre-order will be closed ? Still looking for SA renders...
Post by: stxfreak on Mon, 30 April 2018, 03:31:41
Hello, do you have any renders (from above and isometric) with SP SA keysets (for instance Carbon SA with Dusk, Dolch SA with Sage or Dasher SA with Lake) ?
Hello, you still don't have renders for SA keysets ? At least from above to assess color matching, like Carbon SA, Miami SA, Dasher SA with Lake, Troubled Mind SA with sage....
The easy choice would be the grey but I have yet many cnc grey cases...
Hi, when the pre-order will be closed ? Still looking for SA renders...
The GB will conlcude some time today, probably aus time. Rama unfortunately had some unexpected family stuff coming up on the weekend, so he wasn't able to make his video or renders (I asked him for his vid over instagram and this was his response). I don't know if we will get any more renders or the video until the deadline, but I also think he has already done quite a lot, even though there wasnt a specific SA render I know of. There are still the files to do renders on your own if you really have to have them, not saying that is something you should have to do.
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 30 April 2018, 03:35:25
Hello, do you have any renders (from above and isometric) with SP SA keysets (for instance Carbon SA with Dusk, Dolch SA with Sage or Dasher SA with Lake) ?
Hello, you still don't have renders for SA keysets ? At least from above to assess color matching, like Carbon SA, Miami SA, Dasher SA with Lake, Troubled Mind SA with sage....
The easy choice would be the grey but I have yet many cnc grey cases...
Hi, when the pre-order will be closed ? Still looking for SA renders...
The GB will conlcude some time today, probably aus time. Rama unfortunately had some unexpected family stuff coming up on the weekend, so he wasn't able to make his video or renders (I asked him for his vid over instagram and this was his response). I don't know if we will get any more renders or the video until the deadline, but I also think he has already done quite a lot, even though there wasnt a specific SA render I know of. There are still the files to do renders on your own if you really have to have them, not saying that is something you should have to do.
Finally got that time to make the video (with SA too!)
Only 6 hours left until the GroupBuy concludes :)
Post by: MoebiuS451 on Mon, 30 April 2018, 03:45:11
Post by: Marutks on Mon, 30 April 2018, 04:48:10
Post by: xondat on Mon, 30 April 2018, 06:13:20
Finally got that time to make the video (with SA too!)
Only 6 hours left until the GroupBuy concludes :)
No love for linear GMK? :'( :'(
I'm glad this buy is going so well Rama, congratulations for so far!!
Post by: stxfreak on Mon, 30 April 2018, 06:22:55
https://imgur.com/a/QWjoKtJ#RsBXsDQ
Post by: vewy_nice on Mon, 30 April 2018, 08:26:02
Here is an imgur album from a photo shoot /u/phatskin posted on r/mk, if anyone is still not sure if they want this beauty :)
https://imgur.com/a/QWjoKtJ#RsBXsDQ
Aww man I want those green feet for my sage :o
This board is going to be AWESOME.
Post by: monkt on Mon, 30 April 2018, 09:58:36
Post by: Wilba on Mon, 30 April 2018, 10:03:50
Is there a way to completely turn off the lighting on this board?
Yes.
Post by: stxfreak on Mon, 30 April 2018, 10:04:47
Is there a way to completely turn off the lighting on this board?
the video shows it with completely off leds, so I guess it is possible.
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 30 April 2018, 11:29:50
Scroll down until you find the m60 renders.
Post by: pvd on Mon, 30 April 2018, 14:30:17
Post by: ye_cole on Mon, 30 April 2018, 16:39:38
Duskboyes where u at
Post by: monkt on Mon, 30 April 2018, 19:47:21
Will there be some kind of repository support for this pcb, as I have seen with other boards?
Also, will a firmware download be necessary, or is it all pre-loaded?
I don't own a windows machine, so if a download is necessary, will it be available for mac/linux?
Post by: Wilba on Mon, 30 April 2018, 20:35:03
Since I'm new to this, what will I have to do to program the keyboard with QMK?
Will there be some kind of repository support for this pcb, as I have seen with other boards?
Also, will a firmware download be necessary, or is it all pre-loaded?
I don't own a windows machine, so if a download is necessary, will it be available for mac/linux?
Units will ship with firmware installed and a default keymap, so people can use it immediately.
The firmware will be using QMK. There will also be a GUI configurator to change keymaps and other settings.
Post by: briano1905 on Tue, 01 May 2018, 01:21:32
Post by: ctrl on Tue, 01 May 2018, 03:01:37
Post by: G1LL3Y on Tue, 01 May 2018, 07:01:19
So stoked for this! Looking forward to following the whole process now until it finally arrives. The color options in this drop were really good looking! Would be really interesting to see statistics of how many were sold of each color.
I too got the M60-A in Lake! What keycaps and switches are you going to use in your build?
Post by: ye_cole on Tue, 01 May 2018, 09:04:27
Quote
So stoked for this! Looking forward to following the whole process now until it finally arrives. The color options in this drop were really good looking! Would be really interesting to see statistics of how many were sold of each color.
Seconded! Seems interesting.
Post by: stxfreak on Tue, 01 May 2018, 09:05:03
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 01 May 2018, 09:49:01
Post by: monkt on Tue, 01 May 2018, 10:23:27
set 1: all white caps for both alphas and mods, with black legends
set 2: white alphas with black legends, black mods with white legends
I thought those two looked really nice with the Moon case and I'm trying to figure out if they are real sets that can be bought, or just nice renders.
Post by: stxfreak on Tue, 01 May 2018, 10:24:54
Can anyone identify a couple of keycap sets I saw in some of the renders here?
set 1: all white caps for both alphas and mods, with black legends
set 2: white alphas with black legends, black mods with white legends
I thought those two looked really nice with the Moon case and I'm trying to figure out if they are real sets that can be bought, or just nice renders.
First should be gmk stormtrooper, second could be oblivion with white alphas and the monochrome modifiers.
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 01 May 2018, 10:41:17
set 1: all white caps for both alphas and mods, with black legends
https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-pristine
Post by: monkt on Tue, 01 May 2018, 10:44:05
Can anyone identify a couple of keycap sets I saw in some of the renders here?
set 1: all white caps for both alphas and mods, with black legends
set 2: white alphas with black legends, black mods with white legends
I thought those two looked really nice with the Moon case and I'm trying to figure out if they are real sets that can be bought, or just nice renders.
First should be gmk stormtrooper, second could be oblivion with white alphas and the monochrome modifiers.
Thanks! Too bad it doesn't look like either of these is available anymore. I may end up with a naked board at this rate. I'd really want to get something like that all white caps, or white with black mods in both GMK and in SA. That's pretty much my vision for the Moon case. Not yet sure how to fulfill it since I'm new to this. Worried I may have to wait a couple of years for the right SA set given how long production seems to take right now.
Post by: monkt on Tue, 01 May 2018, 10:50:10
set 1: all white caps for both alphas and mods, with black legends
https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-pristine (https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-pristine)
Nice, thank you!
Can you tell if the base set for sale there would fit the m60-a?
I've pretty much lost my mind trying to sort out what's necessary in the various SA set group buys I have been looking at. GMK looks simpler because it often seems to have a lot more options bundled in the base set.
And is that pretty much standard market rate for a comparable set in GMK?
Post by: G1LL3Y on Tue, 01 May 2018, 10:50:57
Can anyone identify a couple of keycap sets I saw in some of the renders here?
set 1: all white caps for both alphas and mods, with black legends
set 2: white alphas with black legends, black mods with white legends
I thought those two looked really nice with the Moon case and I'm trying to figure out if they are real sets that can be bought, or just nice renders.
First should be gmk stormtrooper, second could be oblivion with white alphas and the monochrome modifiers.
Thanks! Too bad it doesn't look like either of these is available anymore. I may end up with a naked board at this rate. I'd really want to get something like that all white caps, or white with black mods in both GMK and in SA. That's pretty much my vision for the Moon case. Not yet sure how to fulfill it since I'm new to this. Worried I may have to wait a couple of years for the right SA set given how long production seems to take right now.
you could also check out the SA Ice Caps at https://pimpmykeyboard.com/sa-ice-cap-keyset/ (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/sa-ice-cap-keyset/)
Post by: monkt on Tue, 01 May 2018, 11:03:11
Can anyone identify a couple of keycap sets I saw in some of the renders here?
set 1: all white caps for both alphas and mods, with black legends
set 2: white alphas with black legends, black mods with white legends
I thought those two looked really nice with the Moon case and I'm trying to figure out if they are real sets that can be bought, or just nice renders.
First should be gmk stormtrooper, second could be oblivion with white alphas and the monochrome modifiers.
Thanks! Too bad it doesn't look like either of these is available anymore. I may end up with a naked board at this rate. I'd really want to get something like that all white caps, or white with black mods in both GMK and in SA. That's pretty much my vision for the Moon case. Not yet sure how to fulfill it since I'm new to this. Worried I may have to wait a couple of years for the right SA set given how long production seems to take right now.
you could also check out the SA Ice Caps at https://pimpmykeyboard.com/sa-ice-cap-keyset/ (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/sa-ice-cap-keyset/)
That actually looks really nice--thank you! Too bad they are all row 3, I really wanted to try the fully sculpted option. But this would make it a lot easier to switch the caps around for Colemak, I think.
So many set options. Do you know which ones would I need for the M60-A?
I'm going to have to print out the diagram with the cap sizes for this board and start comparing, but the Ice Cap product page doesn't list the sizes of the caps in each set.
Post by: voight-kampff on Tue, 01 May 2018, 11:17:11
you need the following, if you would recreate the renders of Rama:
2 x alt = 1.5u
1 x shift = 2.25u
1 x and 1.75u
1 x space = 7u
1 x fn = 1u
1 x backspace = 1.5u
Post by: xondat on Tue, 01 May 2018, 11:47:38
set 1: all white caps for both alphas and mods, with black legends
https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-pristine (https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-pristine)
Nice, thank you!
Can you tell if the base set for sale there would fit the m60-a?
I've pretty much lost my mind trying to sort out what's necessary in the various SA set group buys I have been looking at. GMK looks simpler because it often seems to have a lot more options bundled in the base set.
And is that pretty much standard market rate for a comparable set in GMK?
Yes, that'll work perfectly. Price is pretty standard considering it's in stock.
Post by: pnkpanther65 on Tue, 01 May 2018, 11:51:57
1 x backspace = 1.5u
Ftfy
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Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 01 May 2018, 12:07:55
Nice, thank you!
Can you tell if the base set for sale there would fit the m60-a?
I've pretty much lost my mind trying to sort out what's necessary in the various SA set group buys I have been looking at. GMK looks simpler because it often seems to have a lot more options bundled in the base set.
And is that pretty much standard market rate for a comparable set in GMK?
Xondat's already answered for the most part - bare in mind zFrontier also offers free shipping over $100 so the $160 there is also inclusive of that. Say $25 shipping to EU/CONUS depending on where you are, 135 for a set of that compatibility that is currently in stock (GMK leads are around 6 to 8 months now) is a really good price.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 01 May 2018, 12:09:52
GMK leads are around 6 to 8 months now
Where did you get info? It's still 16 weeks for new buys.
Post by: voight-kampff on Tue, 01 May 2018, 12:15:49
1 x backspace = 1.5u
Ftfy
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Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 01 May 2018, 12:57:07
Where did you get info? It's still 16 weeks for new buys.
You're probably right, I was just going off of most MD buys over the past year ish but their orders are huge compared to otherwise ran buys.
Post by: monkt on Tue, 01 May 2018, 13:00:18
I know I'm being kind of particular, but I think it's warranted for a board as nice as this. Plus, you know, I can't really afford to buy 3 or 4 sets hoping for just the right shade.
Maybe I should ask this in the keycaps forum? Don't want to derail things here, but maybe there's also room for fantasizing about what look we want for the M60-A we're all waiting for now? I'd certainly like to hear what everyone else is planning.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 01 May 2018, 13:06:01
Is that GMK Pristine set as bright white as it sounds? The photos look like it, but I read a couple of reviews that complain about it being more of a dull, off-white color. Which would be fine for a lot of builds, I think, but maybe not quite matching the look of that stormtrooper set?
I know I'm being kind of particular, but I think it's warranted for a board as nice as this. Plus, you know, I can't really afford to buy 3 or 4 sets hoping for just the right shade.
Maybe I should ask this in the keycaps forum? Don't want to derail things here, but maybe there's also room for fantasizing about what look we want for the M60-A we're all waiting for now? I'd certainly like to hear what everyone else is planning.
Browse both the Pristine and Stormtrooper group buy threads, but to close this, they use a different white.
Rama's videos uses Stormtrooper.
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 01 May 2018, 15:34:36
To add to that, GMK Blue on Black was delivered to the vendors in something like 4 weeks after payment.GMK leads are around 6 to 8 months now
Where did you get info? It's still 16 weeks for new buys.
Post by: Marutks on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:30:55
I too got the M60-A in Lake! What keycaps and switches are you going to use in your build?
GMK LedZep and zealio switches. Or dev/tty with kailh box navy.
Post by: arsenics on Wed, 02 May 2018, 01:36:46
Is that GMK Pristine set as bright white as it sounds? The photos look like it, but I read a couple of reviews that complain about it being more of a dull, off-white color. Which would be fine for a lot of builds, I think, but maybe not quite matching the look of that stormtrooper set?
I know I'm being kind of particular, but I think it's warranted for a board as nice as this. Plus, you know, I can't really afford to buy 3 or 4 sets hoping for just the right shade.
Maybe I should ask this in the keycaps forum? Don't want to derail things here, but maybe there's also room for fantasizing about what look we want for the M60-A we're all waiting for now? I'd certainly like to hear what everyone else is planning.
Pristine is definitely more of an off-white thing than Stormtrooper. IIRC, it's got the same alpha colours as 9009.
Post by: ttot on Wed, 02 May 2018, 03:12:12
Post by: up-in on Wed, 02 May 2018, 04:11:00
So, I ordered the M60-A in LAKE (NAVY) color, with starter kit. Black Alphas, turquoise Zambs and other necessary kits (like Text Hobbyist, Novelties, 7U Spacebars) from SA Pulse R3 drop. And of course violet "Mitolet" kit. I hope all of this together will look great! It only remains to buy a pair of themed cables.
I got the same lol. But i got rams + icon hobbyist instead. Can‘t wait to see how this’ll look.
Post by: Lisinge on Wed, 02 May 2018, 04:14:37
Rama being around in 2-4 years does not necessarily mean the pcb will still be around as well. Tbh, I had the same concerns, but then I realized the only reason I'd need a pcb is if there was some sort of manufacturing fault that caused the pcb to die out in let's say 2 years. Then again, if my garbage razer made it for 2 years, I have no reason to think that the m60a would last me any less.
I've seen a couple of people mention frying their pcb with static electric discharge. I get that pretty bad in the winter where I live, and with this being an all metal case, it seemed like something I should consider.
Also, aren't these hot swap pcbs a relatively new design? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But if so, the durability of the hot swap feature may not yet be proven. In which case, it might well become necessary to find a replacement.
Kaihua does pretty thorough stress testing on all their products. I wouldn’t have any concerns with their durability.
According to Kaihua's own specsheets available here http://www.kailhswitch.com/uploads/201815927/PG151101S11.pdf, they are rated at a minimum of 100 cycles.
Post by: voight-kampff on Wed, 02 May 2018, 05:40:40
Post by: Lisinge on Wed, 02 May 2018, 06:23:15
Does that mean I can replate my switches approximately 100 times?
At least, yes. I would like to think they would hold up to a lot more though.
Maybe someone with more knowledge about these sockets or how kaihua came up with that number can chime in.
Post by: kmba on Wed, 02 May 2018, 06:28:09
Post by: stxfreak on Wed, 02 May 2018, 06:36:26
Final sale count?
I guess rama still has a lot going on right now with unexpected personal stuff, he will probably update us all in the upcoming days, including stuff like that (I don't know if he will release precise numbers though).
Post by: monkt on Wed, 02 May 2018, 09:58:26
So, I ordered the M60-A in LAKE (NAVY) color, with starter kit. Black Alphas, turquoise Zambs and other necessary kits (like Text Hobbyist, Novelties, 7U Spacebars) from SA Pulse R3 drop. And of course violet "Mitolet" kit. I hope all of this together will look great! It only remains to buy a pair of themed cables.
I was really tempted by the Mitolet. I'm sure it'll look great together. I can't wait to see all the photos of these combinations eventually.
I got the same lol. But i got rams + icon hobbyist instead. Can‘t wait to see how this’ll look.
I think that combo will look really nice. And I wish I had understood how useful that Hobbyist option was while the set was still for sale. The fact that it included enter and tab keys made it so you didn't have to buy a separate Mods or TKL option just for those keys. Kicking myself now that I missed it and finally realized that this is not a typical offering in most sets.
Post by: gridds on Wed, 02 May 2018, 21:30:14
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 02 May 2018, 23:11:46
We are now beginning production this week for the M60-A - looking forward to showing off the packaging and other things we have been working on in the background - a sample is in production now for that.
Here is a division of which colours where most popular:
MOON 32.06%
SAGE 17.56%
LAKE 17.30%
KURO 12.85%
MIST 10.69%
DUSK 9.54%
Looking forward to shipping these out in the following months and seeing them on peoples desks :D
Will be posting updates as various components are finished :)
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 02 May 2018, 23:27:26
Thanks to everyone that has participated in this Group Buy!
We are now beginning production this week for the M60-A - looking forward to showing off the packaging and other things we have been working on in the background - a sample is in production now for that.
Here is a division of which colours where most popular:
MOON 32.06%
SAGE 17.56%
LAKE 17.30%
KURO 12.85%
MIST 10.69%
DUSK 9.54%
Looking forward to shipping these out in the following months and seeing them on peoples desks :D
Will be posting updates as various components are finished :)
What an interesting breakdown; that's really different from what I thought it'd be like.
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 02 May 2018, 23:32:39
Thanks to everyone that has participated in this Group Buy!
We are now beginning production this week for the M60-A - looking forward to showing off the packaging and other things we have been working on in the background - a sample is in production now for that.
Here is a division of which colours where most popular:
MOON 32.06%
SAGE 17.56%
LAKE 17.30%
KURO 12.85%
MIST 10.69%
DUSK 9.54%
Looking forward to shipping these out in the following months and seeing them on peoples desks :D
Will be posting updates as various components are finished :)
What an interesting breakdown; that's really different from what I thought it'd be like.
Right! Super surprising for sure, specially since SAGE/LAKE are equal basically - guessing people have some pretty cool sets lined up for these two! Now I just need to get my hands on Nautilus ><
Post by: voight-kampff on Thu, 03 May 2018, 01:34:42
What was you expectation Rama, regarding the orders in the different colors?
Guess Moon was a safe choice for you? And the other colors?
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 03 May 2018, 01:50:02
Counting down the secounds … :D
What was you expectation Rama, regarding the orders in the different colors?
Guess Moon was a safe choice for you? And the other colors?
Really excited to show what we have coming for these M60's :D
I was expecting the grey-scale colours to be more popular, black especially - it seems the signature colours where well received and popular - I suppose there are a lot of sets which match nicely with them - also will stand out really nicely on desks :D
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 03 May 2018, 14:52:48
Post by: maxf on Thu, 03 May 2018, 19:00:22
thinking either Heisei, WoB or maybe Violet Tendancies
thoughts?
Post by: xondat on Thu, 03 May 2018, 19:16:38
having trouble deciding on keycaps for the Moon variant
thinking either Heisei, WoB or maybe Violet Tendancies
thoughts?
Heisei
OG looks best on dark gray imo
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 03 May 2018, 19:58:37
having trouble deciding on keycaps for the Moon variant
thinking either Heisei, WoB or maybe Violet Tendancies
thoughts?
Heisei
OG looks best on dark gray imo
inclined to agree
but also
red riot/yolch
Post by: nguyenhimself on Thu, 03 May 2018, 22:05:36
having trouble deciding on keycaps for the Moon variant
thinking either Heisei, WoB or maybe Violet Tendancies
thoughts?
Heisei
OG looks best on dark gray imo
inclined to agree
but also
red riot/yolch
Not biased at aaaaaalllll. No sir 😆
Post by: maxf on Thu, 03 May 2018, 22:12:03
having trouble deciding on keycaps for the Moon variant
thinking either Heisei, WoB or maybe Violet Tendancies
thoughts?
Heisei
OG looks best on dark gray imo
inclined to agree
but also
red riot/yolch
Not biased at aaaaaalllll. No sir 😆
he even had the red riot bedsheets on stream tonight.
Post by: Khers on Fri, 04 May 2018, 12:52:08
Post by: xondat on Fri, 04 May 2018, 12:56:42
Any word on quantity? Did you sell more than tokyo60 (~600)?
I wrote a stupid script using the percentages provided above as input, and, according to that, the most plausible total number was 786.
****ing hell
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 04 May 2018, 12:57:41
How does this script work, uses maximum likelihoods? Probably better to pm me, I'm interested!Any word on quantity? Did you sell more than tokyo60 (~600)?
I wrote a stupid script using the percentages provided above as input, and, according to that, the most plausible total number was 786.
Post by: Perfex on Fri, 04 May 2018, 12:58:59
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 04 May 2018, 13:04:51
Any word on quantity? Did you sell more than tokyo60 (~600)?
I wrote a stupid script using the percentages provided above as input, and, according to that, the most plausible total number was 786.
jesus ****ing christ
Post by: voight-kampff on Fri, 04 May 2018, 13:11:13
Any word on quantity? Did you sell more than tokyo60 (~600)?
I wrote a stupid script using the percentages provided above as input, and, according to that, the most plausible total number was 786.
****ing hell
Post by: Wilba on Fri, 04 May 2018, 13:21:31
Any word on quantity? Did you sell more than tokyo60 (~600)?
I wrote a stupid script using the percentages provided above as input, and, according to that, the most plausible total number was 786.
I said to Rama, let's release percentages to 2 decimal places and see if anyone could be bothered working out a total number from that. But first, let's fudge the numbers so the actual total isn't revealed.
;D
Post by: Lisinge on Fri, 04 May 2018, 13:25:19
Any word on quantity? Did you sell more than tokyo60 (~600)?
I wrote a stupid script using the percentages provided above as input, and, according to that, the most plausible total number was 786.
I said to Rama, let's release percentages to 2 decimal places and see if anyone could be bothered working out a total number from that. But first, let's fudge the numbers so the actual total isn't revealed.
;D
Didn't your mom teach you it's bad to lie? ;D
Post by: xondat on Fri, 04 May 2018, 13:30:16
Any word on quantity? Did you sell more than tokyo60 (~600)?
I wrote a stupid script using the percentages provided above as input, and, according to that, the most plausible total number was 786.
I said to Rama, let's release percentages to 2 decimal places and see if anyone could be bothered working out a total number from that. But first, let's fudge the numbers so the actual total isn't revealed.
;D
absolute lad
Post by: Khers on Fri, 04 May 2018, 13:35:25
Post by: lecorsair on Fri, 04 May 2018, 13:58:12
Any word on quantity? Did you sell more than tokyo60 (~600)?
I wrote a stupid script using the percentages provided above as input, and, according to that, the most plausible total number was 786.
Calculated the number for sage gives me 138.02 units sold, or am I missing something(brain cells)?
Post by: naut on Fri, 04 May 2018, 14:06:14
Any word on quantity? Did you sell more than tokyo60 (~600)?
I wrote a stupid script using the percentages provided above as input, and, according to that, the most plausible total number was 786.
Calculated the number for sage gives me 138.02 units sold, or am I missing something(brain cells)?
You can thank Wilba for your damaged brain cells.
Post by: Jakyrian on Fri, 04 May 2018, 14:18:54
Any word on quantity? Did you sell more than tokyo60 (~600)?
I wrote a stupid script using the percentages provided above as input, and, according to that, the most plausible total number was 786.
Calculated the number for sage gives me 138.02 units sold, or am I missing something(brain cells)?
Nah the percentages are probably rounded, so 138 units. If you try the other values you'll get close to a whole number each time.
Post by: voight-kampff on Sat, 05 May 2018, 14:07:22
this will be a long wait ;D
Post by: stxfreak on Sat, 05 May 2018, 15:02:21
sh@t, I check back every hour to see if there is some news.
this will be a long wait ;D
If everything runs as planned, the wait isnt actually not that long for a custom keeb... I know what you mean though :D
Post by: Kerasan on Sat, 05 May 2018, 15:35:54
sh@t, I check back every hour to see if there is some news.
this will be a long wait ;D
the desire increases desire :p
KMK Labs.
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 06 May 2018, 03:29:22
sh@t, I check back every hour to see if there is some news.
this will be a long wait ;D
I'll try and provide updates as often as I can, I'll give you one now!
Mostly everything is now put into production :)
Custom feet: Paid and put into production
Internal cable: paid for production and awaiting new sample (shorter and sleeved)
Switches: paid for through NovelKeys
Stabilisers: paid for through GMK
USB-C cables: to be done
PCB's: Awaiting production
Cases: In production; awaiting payment
We have a new timeline for production to finish: Late August.
At this point we are looking at fulfilling throughout September (we will have more accurate timelines as we move along)
Cheers :)
Post by: up-in on Sun, 06 May 2018, 07:02:57
sh@t, I check back every hour to see if there is some news.
this will be a long wait ;D
I'll try and provide updates as often as I can, I'll give you one now!
Mostly everything is now put into production :)
Custom feet: Paid and put into production
Internal cable: paid for production and awaiting new sample (shorter and sleeved)
Switches: paid for through NovelKeys
Stabilisers: paid for through GMK
USB-C cables: to be done
PCB's: Awaiting production
Cases: In production; awaiting payment
We have a new timeline for production to finish: Late August.
At this point we are looking at fulfilling throughout September (we will have more accurate timelines as we move along)
Cheers :)
thanks for the update. i have a question regarding shipment. I won't be at my country around late August - late September. Is it still possible to change shipping address?
Post by: eyedrop on Sun, 06 May 2018, 07:52:26
/sI am sure you can ping Rama about it, he is very accommodating.
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Post by: Marutks on Sun, 06 May 2018, 08:18:44
Custom feet: Paid and put into production
I have seen few M65 build videos where they struggled to attach those custom feet to bottom of case. Custom feet were too wide :(
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 06 May 2018, 15:21:35
I have seen few M65 build videos where they struggled to attach those custom feet to bottom of case. Custom feet were too wide :(Which videos were those?
I’ve watched 4 different m65 build videos, plus my own build, where they fit perfectly.
Post by: stxfreak on Sun, 06 May 2018, 15:38:17
I have seen few M65 build videos where they struggled to attach those custom feet to bottom of case. Custom feet were too wide :(Which videos were those?
I’ve watched 4 different m65 build videos, plus my own build, where they fit perfectly.
Probably wodans, where he realized how to properly apply them after the first try :D
Post by: gutsack on Sun, 06 May 2018, 21:10:15
I have seen few M65 build videos where they struggled to attach those custom feet to bottom of case. Custom feet were too wide :(Which videos were those?
I’ve watched 4 different m65 build videos, plus my own build, where they fit perfectly.
Same, no problems with mine. Also, Rama didn't oversee the manufacturing or QC of the M65-A.
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 07 May 2018, 02:10:30
thanks for the update. i have a question regarding shipment. I won't be at my country around late August - late September. Is it still possible to change shipping address?Yep! Just reply to your most recent order confirmation email with your new address :)
Also I always email out a week prior to shipment for people to double check their addresses as well.
These ones are a little different to the M65 feet - they just sit into one cavity whereas the M65 one's sort of pop into individual cavities - there's also a through hole on either-end and the center - so you can pop it out quite easily as well :)Custom feet: Paid and put into production
I have seen few M65 build videos where they struggled to attach those custom feet to bottom of case. Custom feet were too wide :(
Post by: Cas on Thu, 10 May 2018, 05:07:13
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 10 May 2018, 17:43:24
Any update on Gmk Heavy industry?
Not GMK per se, but we have a sample coming in soon!! Hopefully in the next week or so :) I'll post some pics when it arrives :-*
Post by: Midori on Thu, 10 May 2018, 18:03:09
JTK Heavy IndustryAny update on Gmk Heavy industry?
Not GMK per se, but we have a sample coming in soon!! Hopefully in the next week or so :) I'll post some pics when it arrives :-*
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Post by: Atredl on Thu, 10 May 2018, 18:44:16
The times they are a-changin’JTK Heavy IndustryAny update on Gmk Heavy industry?
Not GMK per se, but we have a sample coming in soon!! Hopefully in the next week or so :) I'll post some pics when it arrives :-*
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Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Sat, 12 May 2018, 10:01:00
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 21 May 2018, 02:25:12
Even the PCB on this looks gorgeous...
All details are important! :D
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Here's a pic of the updated internal cable:
(https://i.imgur.com/wOv5SeZ.jpg)
Post by: Cas on Tue, 22 May 2018, 05:16:56
Post by: Brannan on Wed, 23 May 2018, 12:38:42
JTK Heavy IndustryAny update on Gmk Heavy industry?
Not GMK per se, but we have a sample coming in soon!! Hopefully in the next week or so :) I'll post some pics when it arrives :-*
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I would be totally down for JTK Heavy Industry.
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 23 May 2018, 12:45:13
Honestly, after seeing their fixed legends, which mind you some are fixed, I'm just still not impressed. The m60 is a premium kit. It's not your run of the mill tray mount GB that pop up every now on them on GH. I've already spent $400 on the kit now, I would much rather spend another $110 on a gmk set than $70 on a JTK set (keeping in mind these won't be full sets hence lower prices listed).JTK Heavy IndustryAny update on Gmk Heavy industry?
Not GMK per se, but we have a sample coming in soon!! Hopefully in the next week or so :) I'll post some pics when it arrives :-*
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I would be totally down for JTK Heavy Industry.
Anyways, this is all conjecture I guess, has Rama even confirmed that it was JTK?
Post by: G1LL3Y on Wed, 23 May 2018, 13:14:26
Honestly, after seeing their fixed legends, which mind you some are fixed, I'm just still not impressed. The m60 is a premium kit. It's not your run of the mill tray mount GB that pop up every now on them on GH. I've already spent $400 on the kit now, I would much rather spend another $110 on a gmk set than $70 on a JTK set (keeping in mind these won't be full sets hence lower prices listed).JTK Heavy IndustryAny update on Gmk Heavy industry?
Not GMK per se, but we have a sample coming in soon!! Hopefully in the next week or so :) I'll post some pics when it arrives :-*
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I would be totally down for JTK Heavy Industry.
Anyways, this is all conjecture I guess, has Rama even confirmed that it was JTK?
Isn't the title of the keyset at https://rama.works/#/gmk-heavy-industry/ (https://rama.works/#/gmk-heavy-industry/) "GMK Heavy Industry"?? Maybe remove the "GMK" text from the title if the set isn't going to be GMK to avoid confusion.
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 23 May 2018, 21:16:06
Honestly, after seeing their fixed legends, which mind you some are fixed, I'm just still not impressed. The m60 is a premium kit. It's not your run of the mill tray mount GB that pop up every now on them on GH. I've already spent $400 on the kit now, I would much rather spend another $110 on a gmk set than $70 on a JTK set (keeping in mind these won't be full sets hence lower prices listed).JTK Heavy IndustryAny update on Gmk Heavy industry?
Not GMK per se, but we have a sample coming in soon!! Hopefully in the next week or so :) I'll post some pics when it arrives :-*Show Image(https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji50.png)
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I would be totally down for JTK Heavy Industry.
Anyways, this is all conjecture I guess, has Rama even confirmed that it was JTK?
Not JTK!
Honestly, after seeing their fixed legends, which mind you some are fixed, I'm just still not impressed. The m60 is a premium kit. It's not your run of the mill tray mount GB that pop up every now on them on GH. I've already spent $400 on the kit now, I would much rather spend another $110 on a gmk set than $70 on a JTK set (keeping in mind these won't be full sets hence lower prices listed).JTK Heavy Industry (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji50.png) (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji50.png)Any update on Gmk Heavy industry?
Not GMK per se, but we have a sample coming in soon!! Hopefully in the next week or so :) I'll post some pics when it arrives :-*
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I would be totally down for JTK Heavy Industry.
Anyways, this is all conjecture I guess, has Rama even confirmed that it was JTK?
Isn't the title of the keyset at https://rama.works/#/gmk-heavy-industry/ (https://rama.works/#/gmk-heavy-industry/) "GMK Heavy Industry"?? Maybe remove the "GMK" text from the title if the set isn't going to be GMK to avoid confusion.
That is a variation of it, the new one is actually very different with the legends etc, so will be leaving that one for now :)
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Also, will have the prototype packaging arriving early next week, will have photos then!
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 23 May 2018, 21:18:11
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 23 May 2018, 22:20:58
That is a variation of it, the new one is actually very different with the legends etc, so will be leaving that one for now :)
Will the new version be cherry profile? :-X
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 23 May 2018, 23:04:47
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 23 May 2018, 23:13:16
Could it be novelkeys new profile? :eek:Oh shiettttttttt.
I don't think so though, I think Mike is still sampling and making prototypes
Post by: madKeyboardfish on Fri, 25 May 2018, 05:04:56
I've at least found some firmware for the M6-A (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/rama) that also hints to the M60-A being listed there sometime in the future.
So is there any plan on when this will happen? Would be awesome to have the ability to fully customize the keyboard.
Post by: Wilba on Fri, 25 May 2018, 05:32:03
Will the firmware for the M60-A be available on GitHub?
I've at least found some firmware for the M6-A (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/rama) that also hints to the M60-A being listed there sometime in the future.
So is there any plan on when this will happen? Would be awesome to have the ability to fully customize the keyboard.
Yes, the PCB design is based on the Zeal60 (which uses QMK) and I'm in the process of refactoring it and getting it into QMK master branch.
Right now, it's still in my QMK fork here: https://github.com/Wilba6582/qmk_firmware/tree/zeal60
Post by: madKeyboardfish on Fri, 25 May 2018, 07:59:53
Yes, the PCB design is based on the Zeal60 (which uses QMK) and I'm in the process of refactoring it and getting it into QMK master branch.Awesome! Can't wait to get my hands on that board
Right now, it's still in my QMK fork here: https://github.com/Wilba6582/qmk_firmware/tree/zeal60
Post by: Lisinge on Fri, 25 May 2018, 08:00:44
Yes, the PCB design is based on the Zeal60 (which uses QMK) and I'm in the process of refactoring it and getting it into QMK master branch.
Right now, it's still in my QMK fork here: https://github.com/Wilba6582/qmk_firmware/tree/zeal60
That's awesome Wilba! Thanks for putting in the time and working it into QMK master!
Post by: voight-kampff on Sat, 26 May 2018, 11:44:08
Wilba, how many layers are possible with m60-a?Will the firmware for the M60-A be available on GitHub?
I've at least found some firmware for the M6-A (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/rama) that also hints to the M60-A being listed there sometime in the future.
So is there any plan on when this will happen? Would be awesome to have the ability to fully customize the keyboard.
Yes, the PCB design is based on the Zeal60 (which uses QMK) and I'm in the process of refactoring it and getting it into QMK master branch.
Right now, it's still in my QMK fork here: https://github.com/Wilba6582/qmk_firmware/tree/zeal60
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Post by: midnight2903 on Sun, 27 May 2018, 04:23:10
Wilba, how many layers are possible with m60-a?Will the firmware for the M60-A be available on GitHub?
I've at least found some firmware for the M6-A (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/rama) that also hints to the M60-A being listed there sometime in the future.
So is there any plan on when this will happen? Would be awesome to have the ability to fully customize the keyboard.
Yes, the PCB design is based on the Zeal60 (which uses QMK) and I'm in the process of refactoring it and getting it into QMK master branch.
Right now, it's still in my QMK fork here: https://github.com/Wilba6582/qmk_firmware/tree/zeal60
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More than you will ever need probably.
Post by: voight-kampff on Sun, 27 May 2018, 05:39:23
MaybeWilba, how many layers are possible with m60-a?Will the firmware for the M60-A be available on GitHub?
I've at least found some firmware for the M6-A (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/rama) that also hints to the M60-A being listed there sometime in the future.
So is there any plan on when this will happen? Would be awesome to have the ability to fully customize the keyboard.
Yes, the PCB design is based on the Zeal60 (which uses QMK) and I'm in the process of refactoring it and getting it into QMK master branch.
Right now, it's still in my QMK fork here: https://github.com/Wilba6582/qmk_firmware/tree/zeal60
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More than you will ever need probably.
But then again I would like to know the answer
I write in two languages and use graphic software and a lot of keyboard shortcuts. So I need a few layers.
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Post by: Lisinge on Sun, 27 May 2018, 06:00:17
MaybeWilba, how many layers are possible with m60-a?Will the firmware for the M60-A be available on GitHub?
I've at least found some firmware for the M6-A (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/rama) that also hints to the M60-A being listed there sometime in the future.
So is there any plan on when this will happen? Would be awesome to have the ability to fully customize the keyboard.
Yes, the PCB design is based on the Zeal60 (which uses QMK) and I'm in the process of refactoring it and getting it into QMK master branch.
Right now, it's still in my QMK fork here: https://github.com/Wilba6582/qmk_firmware/tree/zeal60
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More than you will ever need probably.
But then again I would like to know the answer
I write in two languages and use graphic software and a lot of keyboard shortcuts. So I need a few layers.
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Since it runs QMK it should support up to 32 layers
Post by: voight-kampff on Sun, 27 May 2018, 06:47:26
Post by: heavyheaded on Wed, 30 May 2018, 11:01:08
Post by: Zanduby on Wed, 30 May 2018, 11:55:41
Post by: Kerasan on Wed, 30 May 2018, 12:08:49
Everyone needs to go check out Rama's IG story! Packaging looks absolutely tits!
YEAH!!! :cool:
KMK Labs.
Post by: Lisinge on Wed, 30 May 2018, 12:51:46
with it being based on the zeal60, is it going to use the scripty configuration method (vs the "normal" QMK build-your-keymap method)?
I compile and program my zeal60 just like i do any other QMK board. You don't have to use the script downloaded from zeals website
Post by: bball2 on Wed, 30 May 2018, 14:51:54
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/new-arrival/products/gbenjoypbt-black-on-white-with-icon-mods-159keys
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 30 May 2018, 17:25:01
Just joined the groupbuy for the EnjoyPBT black on white to go my M60A Mist :-)
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/new-arrival/products/gbenjoypbt-black-on-white-with-icon-mods-159keys (https://kbdfans.cn/collections/new-arrival/products/gbenjoypbt-black-on-white-with-icon-mods-159keys)
Awesome choice!! That's going to look great :D
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Oh and... here's the packaging!! :)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/deenS7tH13OZbOHmLt/giphy.gif)
(https://i.imgur.com/lQwtuCr.jpg)
Post by: DePulse on Wed, 30 May 2018, 18:16:18
Just joined the groupbuy for the EnjoyPBT black on white to go my M60A Mist :-)
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/new-arrival/products/gbenjoypbt-black-on-white-with-icon-mods-159keys (https://kbdfans.cn/collections/new-arrival/products/gbenjoypbt-black-on-white-with-icon-mods-159keys)
Awesome choice!! That's going to look great :D
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Oh and... here's the packaging!! :)Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/deenS7tH13OZbOHmLt/giphy.gif)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lQwtuCr.jpg)
That is effin' lit :eek: so excited!!
Post by: eyedrop on Wed, 30 May 2018, 19:14:18
Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Wed, 30 May 2018, 20:06:05
After seeing this, I now care about this box.
Post by: ye_cole on Wed, 30 May 2018, 21:56:52
Quote
Before seeing this I said, "I don't care, it's just a box."
After seeing this, I now care about this box.
you crazy for this one rama
Post by: bball2 on Wed, 30 May 2018, 21:58:04
Post by: vewy_nice on Fri, 01 June 2018, 10:43:23
Post by: befbef on Tue, 05 June 2018, 04:01:48
Post by: Lisinge on Tue, 05 June 2018, 04:43:28
Did just the pre-sale end or was this the only chance getting this case?
You are like a month late dude
Post by: befbef on Tue, 05 June 2018, 05:15:37
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 05 June 2018, 05:18:30
I know, but since it's called pre-sale in the shop I wasn't sure if there will be another sale later.I recall RAMA mentioning probably a R2 but not for a very long time.
Post by: _PixelNinja on Tue, 05 June 2018, 06:58:07
Potentially at some point, but won't be for a longgg while - and most likely not in the same colourways.
Post by: Aerizu on Wed, 06 June 2018, 08:09:23
*Got into this hobby in May*
*Sees this post in June*
Orz
Well, here's to hoping for R2 (or some extras in R1. Hehe)
Post by: Lisinge on Wed, 06 June 2018, 18:36:54
*RAMA releases a god-tier board in April*
*Got into this hobby in May*
*Sees this post in June*
Orz
Well, here's to hoping for R2 (or some extras in R1. Hehe)
I feel you dude. You can also hope for some boards to turn up on mechmarket when they start shipping
Post by: Nomcr on Wed, 06 June 2018, 22:05:02
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Post by: Lndefinite on Wed, 06 June 2018, 22:52:08
I'm super excited to receive my board. <3
Post by: Bael_Zharon on Wed, 06 June 2018, 23:33:05
LONG LIVE KINGRAMA!
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 07 June 2018, 01:22:20
I've been out of the office for the past week, but there's some stuff waiting for me at the warehouse - will show it once I return to Melbourne next week!
Can't wait to show some of the stuff we've been working on for this project :D
Post by: Hongook on Thu, 07 June 2018, 02:47:04
Post by: Carlobv on Thu, 07 June 2018, 08:45:22
*RAMA releases a god-tier board in April*
*Got into this hobby in May*
*Sees this post in June*
Orz
Well, here's to hoping for R2 (or some extras in R1. Hehe)
I feel you dude. You can also hope for some boards to turn up on mechmarket when they start shipping
I bought one without ever using the hhkb layout. I’d imagine others have done the same. If we can’t get used to it or don’t like it, there will probably be some posted
Post by: Hongook on Thu, 07 June 2018, 09:33:27
Post by: Aerizu on Thu, 07 June 2018, 09:42:06
*RAMA releases a god-tier board in April*
*Got into this hobby in May*
*Sees this post in June*
Orz
Well, here's to hoping for R2 (or some extras in R1. Hehe)
I feel you dude. You can also hope for some boards to turn up on mechmarket when they start shipping
I bought one without ever using the hhkb layout. I’d imagine others have done the same. If we can’t get used to it or don’t like it, there will probably be some posted
Luckily I'm well acquainted with the HHKB layout as I already built one with Tina C.
If you guys decide to sell your M60-A, you know who to message ;) ;) ;)
Post by: forstsiven on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:13:55
Post by: Allo on Thu, 07 June 2018, 14:05:05
I didn't order an extra back weight, but I'm wondering if there will be any extras available once production has been completed.
You might be able to swap with someone depending on what color you have/want
Post by: Hongook on Thu, 07 June 2018, 14:10:13
I’ll have the moon, but I’m wanting an extra rose gold/gold as well.I didn't order an extra back weight, but I'm wondering if there will be any extras available once production has been completed.
You might be able to swap with someone depending on what color you have/want
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Post by: oh_chesteroni on Thu, 07 June 2018, 14:17:50
Hey guys, thanks so much!!Please say keycaps please say keycaps!
I've been out of the office for the past week, but there's some stuff waiting for me at the warehouse - will show it once I return to Melbourne next week!
Can't wait to show some of the stuff we've been working on for this project :D
Ever since you teased that it wasn't JTK I've been dieing to find out what you have in store for us in replacement to gmk heavy industries.
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Post by: arsenics on Sat, 09 June 2018, 15:22:59
Post by: JamesShaw on Sat, 09 June 2018, 20:28:29
Post by: midnight2903 on Sun, 10 June 2018, 02:34:00
Any chance that this GB will relaunch in the future?
Rama has already commented on this before. Not in the near future since there are multiple projects queued up. Also won't be the same color ways probably.
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sun, 10 June 2018, 09:57:52
Any chance that this GB will relaunch in the future?
The answer to your question is half a page up.
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 11 June 2018, 08:00:03
I didn't order an extra back weight, but I'm wondering if there will be any extras available once production has been completed.
Email support@rama.works (or just reply to your order email) and we'll see if we have a spare in production available for you! :)
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Also I'm back in Melbourne now, I'll be driving into the warehouse tomorrow to check on the packages that have arrived - will send photos then! Hopefully it's the one I've really been waiting for :D
Post by: voight-kampff on Tue, 12 June 2018, 02:07:38
Made by https://www.coolcable.co.uk (https://www.coolcable.co.uk)
(https://i.imgur.com/s7TYhNk.jpg)
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 12 June 2018, 05:18:49
The cable with Lemo for my M60-A arrived yesterday :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/s7TYhNk.jpg)
Oh my god, that is beautiful - who made that? Digging the colors!!
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Project updates will now be posted here: https://rama.works/projectupdates (https://rama.works/projectupdates)
You can follow the link to see some of the new stuff that has come through!
Here's a brief preview, EPBT Heavy Industry!
(https://i.imgur.com/kgwrp8h.jpg)
PCB Anti-Static bags:
(https://i.imgur.com/aKhAnaX.jpg)
Check the link above for more images / updates :) I'll also post here as they happen as well.
Post by: voight-kampff on Tue, 12 June 2018, 05:39:19
epbt. cool, can't sleep till I got the M60-A :D
Is the white an off-white or something similar like kbdfans new epbt keycap set?
The cable is made at www.coolcable.co.uk. I updated my post with a link if you don't mind
Post by: Kerasan on Tue, 12 June 2018, 05:42:14
KMK Labs.
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 12 June 2018, 06:00:55
wow
epbt. cool, can't sleep till I got the M60-A :D
Is the white an off-white or something similar like kbdfans new epbt keycap set?
The cable is made at www.coolcable.co.uk (http://www.coolcable.co.uk). I updated my post with a link if you don't mind
It's off-white, not pure white :)
Those cables are super sweet, thanks for the link!
but... but... but.... I love u!!! :o :o :o :o :o
KMK Labs.
:-* :-*
Post by: moitorpsychoo on Tue, 12 June 2018, 06:05:38
Wow! ePBT has been making big moves lately! EPBT 9009, Black on white, and now ePBT heavy industry!The cable with Lemo for my M60-A arrived yesterday :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/s7TYhNk.jpg)
Oh my god, that is beautiful - who made that? Digging the colors!!
--
Project updates will now be posted here: https://rama.works/projectupdates (https://rama.works/projectupdates)
You can follow the link to see some of the new stuff that has come through!
Here's a brief preview, EPBT Heavy Industry!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kgwrp8h.jpg)
PCB Anti-Static bags:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aKhAnaX.jpg)
Check the link above for more images / updates :) I'll also post here as they happen as well.
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Post by: _PixelNinja on Tue, 12 June 2018, 07:50:10
If I had to nitpick though, from the pictures the mod legends seem bold in comparison the alphas and your renders of GMK Heavy Industry.
Post by: jlee755 on Tue, 12 June 2018, 08:11:23
Nice to see you chose ePBT for Heavy Industry : )Looks like a design choice, it suits his logo on the Esc key.
If I had to nitpick though, from the pictures the mod legends seem bold in comparison the alphas and your renders of GMK Heavy Industry.
Maybe it's a mistake but what do I know
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 12 June 2018, 08:24:26
Yeah, it was a design choice. If you follow the link, he says it's suited with their own typefaceNice to see you chose ePBT for Heavy Industry : )Looks like a design choice, it suits his logo on the Esc key.
If I had to nitpick though, from the pictures the mod legends seem bold in comparison the alphas and your renders of GMK Heavy Industry.
Maybe it's a mistake but what do I know
Post by: kristmascane on Tue, 12 June 2018, 09:59:05
Any chance you can post an IC for heavy industry in the IC section so that we can give feedback for it seperately rather than have 2 things going on in 1 thread?
Post by: ChrisSwires on Tue, 12 June 2018, 10:00:48
Nice update, Rama!
Any chance you can post an IC for heavy industry in the IC section so that we can give feedback for it seperately rather than have 2 things going on in 1 thread?
I'd second that, not after the M60 but may well be after heavy industry - this will make it difficult for me to follow!
Post by: Snappo on Tue, 12 June 2018, 10:01:32
Nice to see you chose ePBT for Heavy Industry : )
If I had to nitpick though, from the pictures the mod legends seem bold in comparison the alphas and your renders of GMK Heavy Industry.
If was honest, I would say the set looks very washed out compared to previous GMK renders.
The mods are too light,
The set has lost the striking contrast it once had.
Edit: In another photo RAMA put up the yellow is much fuller. The mods however are still far too light for me.
Nice update, Rama!
Any chance you can post an IC for heavy industry in the IC section so that we can give feedback for it seperately rather than have 2 things going on in 1 thread?
Agreed
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 12 June 2018, 10:15:18
With the yellow accents, I feel like they were designed to match the yellow on the inventory packaging. It's close, but I think it's just a bit too warm with a bit too much orange mixed in. I also think the gmk yellow was too cool, so maybe something in between with a bit less orange?
Post by: kristmascane on Tue, 12 June 2018, 10:17:16
The alphas are great, the yellow is great.
I'm not a fan of the "backspace" legend, and would much prefer to see the actual hhkb legends as options, ie what currently says "backspace" would say "del" and what currently says "del" would be a "~`". Not sure if that was already planned, but it would make the difference in purchasing the set for me at least.
Post by: ptiede on Tue, 12 June 2018, 10:55:50
I can live with the typeface on the mods, it's not a make or break deal for me. I do agree, however, that it is just a touch too think and I think it would look much better if it was slightly thinner. For example, I think this would make a big visual difference on back space, which as it currently stands is too overwhelming and distracts from the rest of the set. I also miss the darker modifiers, but at the same time like the lighter ones too. Maybe there could be an option to sell dark modifiers as a kit?
With the yellow accents, I feel like they were designed to match the yellow on the inventory packaging. It's close, but I think it's just a bit too warm with a bit too much orange mixed in. I also think the gmk yellow was too cool, so maybe something in between with a bit less orange?
A problem with darker modifiers is that since this is dye-sub they can't use white ink. So if you want darker modifiers the letters will then have very little contrast.
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 12 June 2018, 11:00:15
Oh right, completely forgot this would be dye sub. Good call. Maybe a similar method of reverse dye sub that was used on dsa starry night could be implemented? Probably not though eh, since that set wasn't manufactured by epbt.I can live with the typeface on the mods, it's not a make or break deal for me. I do agree, however, that it is just a touch too think and I think it would look much better if it was slightly thinner. For example, I think this would make a big visual difference on back space, which as it currently stands is too overwhelming and distracts from the rest of the set. I also miss the darker modifiers, but at the same time like the lighter ones too. Maybe there could be an option to sell dark modifiers as a kit?
With the yellow accents, I feel like they were designed to match the yellow on the inventory packaging. It's close, but I think it's just a bit too warm with a bit too much orange mixed in. I also think the gmk yellow was too cool, so maybe something in between with a bit less orange?
A problem with darker modifiers is that since this is dye-sub they can't use white ink. So if you want darker modifiers the letters will then have very little contrast.
Post by: 8ckerno on Wed, 13 June 2018, 10:31:24
Post by: stxfreak on Wed, 13 June 2018, 11:40:12
I have been thinking. Would it be easy to make the m60 Bluetooth? I would think that you can make a module between the pcb and usb-c bridge. This way you don't have to solder on the pcb itself and when unmodding it without leaving 'scars' on the stock contents.
I dont know if there would be enough space for that, with internal weight at least rama told me there is about 2-3mm space. The material would probably be the bigger difficulty, as probably neither alu or brass will work that well with bluetooth.
Post by: Carlobv on Wed, 13 June 2018, 12:15:20
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 13 June 2018, 12:15:47
I have been thinking. Would it be easy to make the m60 Bluetooth? I would think that you can make a module between the pcb and usb-c bridge. This way you don't have to solder on the pcb itself and when unmodding it without leaving 'scars' on the stock contents.
I dont know if there would be enough space for that, with internal weight at least rama told me there is about 2-3mm space. The material would probably be the bigger difficulty, as probably neither alu or brass will work that well with bluetooth.
Yes, you are correct. Bluetooth is not going to be able to get out of that case. No how. No way. Have to be a plastic window in the back or wood or something non-metal.
Post by: ptykozoon on Thu, 21 June 2018, 19:02:41
Post by: packman86 on Thu, 21 June 2018, 19:20:38
Is there any hope for the poor lost souls that missed the GB?
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 22 June 2018, 16:29:34
Is there any hope for the poor lost souls that missed the GB?
Or transfer spots if ramabae allows it
Post by: cgrums on Sat, 23 June 2018, 23:55:22
Post by: Aerizu on Sun, 24 June 2018, 06:25:38
If we're allowed I'm looking to let go of my spot. Moon with extra feet, starter kit and internal weight. PM me.
Sent you a PM mate :)
Post by: befbef on Mon, 25 June 2018, 19:37:21
Post by: ptykozoon on Tue, 26 June 2018, 13:13:54
Post by: cgrums on Wed, 27 June 2018, 09:50:27
If we're allowed I'm looking to let go of my spot. Moon with extra feet, starter kit and internal weight. PM me.
Sent you a PM mate :)
Glad we could get it done. To those other folks PMing me; good luck with your hunt!
Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Wed, 27 June 2018, 23:36:27
Post by: befbef on Thu, 28 June 2018, 01:45:35
Quote
I'm looking to drop out of my spot too. I have moon and the starter kit.I would take it. PM coming.
Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Fri, 29 June 2018, 23:17:54
QuoteI'm looking to drop out of my spot too. I have moon and the starter kit.I would take it. PM coming.
Thanks and enjoy! Sorry and thank you to everyone else who PM'ed me. Good luck!
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Mon, 02 July 2018, 01:05:18
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 02 July 2018, 01:28:25
I have a Sage spot with internal weight I'd like to sell. Although not sure how this would work?
I believe that the fairest thing to do would be to (option 1) refund the full order to RAMA, and RAMA later sells the board at cost.
(option 2) You can transfer the spot to someone who is interested, at cost. Ideally it should all be done at the exact cost of purchase.
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Mon, 02 July 2018, 01:38:52
id be okay with either. If anyone is interested, feel free to pm me!I have a Sage spot with internal weight I'd like to sell. Although not sure how this would work?
I believe that the fairest thing to do would be to (option 1) refund the full order to RAMA, and RAMA later sells the board at cost.
(option 2) You can transfer the spot to someone who is interested, at cost. Ideally it should all be done at the exact cost of purchase.
Post by: Zanduby on Mon, 02 July 2018, 10:07:57
I have a Sage spot with internal weight I'd like to sell. Although not sure how this would work?
I believe that the fairest thing to do would be to (option 1) refund the full order to RAMA, and RAMA later sells the board at cost.
(option 2) You can transfer the spot to someone who is interested, at cost. Ideally it should all be done at the exact cost of purchase.
Or just get the board yourself from the GB and sell on MM. Minimize the work Rama has to deal with.
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 02 July 2018, 20:59:02
I have a Sage spot with internal weight I'd like to sell. Although not sure how this would work?
Just email support@rama.works and we can do a full refund (reply to your order confirmation email) :)
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The Interior Weight, PCB and Extra Weight packaging is en-route - will have photos once it arrives! A large majority of the bases have been machined (essentially all), and about 1/4 of the top enclosures have been machined. Will have a post up on http://updates.rama.works with photos etc when things come in :)
Cheers!
Post by: actualglacier on Tue, 03 July 2018, 01:09:57
I have a Sage spot with internal weight I'd like to sell. Although not sure how this would work?
Just email support@rama.works and we can do a full refund (reply to your order confirmation email) :)
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The Interior Weight, PCB and Extra Weight packaging is en-route - will have photos once it arrives! A large majority of the bases have been machined (essentially all), and about 1/4 of the top enclosures have been machined. Will have a post up on http://updates.rama.works with photos etc when things come in :)
Cheers!
That's great to hear! Is the estimated ship date still September? Pretty stoked for this.
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 03 July 2018, 01:23:31
Lake with the basics. No extra items.
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 03 July 2018, 01:28:36
I have a Sage spot with internal weight I'd like to sell. Although not sure how this would work?
Just email support@rama.works and we can do a full refund (reply to your order confirmation email) :)
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The Interior Weight, PCB and Extra Weight packaging is en-route - will have photos once it arrives! A large majority of the bases have been machined (essentially all), and about 1/4 of the top enclosures have been machined. Will have a post up on http://updates.rama.works (http://updates.rama.works) with photos etc when things come in :)
Cheers!
That's great to hear! Is the estimated ship date still September? Pretty stoked for this.
Yep! Still on track for September :) Very excited to get everything out!
Post by: maxf on Sat, 07 July 2018, 02:05:39
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 07 July 2018, 10:16:42
you rock Rama! crossing my fingers to have it by the DC meetup ;-)
AHHH when is it? I want to visit America again!
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 07 July 2018, 10:33:30
http://reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8uobzg/meetup_washington_dc_sep_15_2018/you rock Rama! crossing my fingers to have it by the DC meetup ;-)
AHHH when is it? I want to visit America again!
Sep 15 2018
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Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 07 July 2018, 13:44:50
http://reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8uobzg/meetup_washington_dc_sep_15_2018/you rock Rama! crossing my fingers to have it by the DC meetup ;-)
AHHH when is it? I want to visit America again!
Sep 15 2018
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ffs why does it have to be RIGHT after I go back to school
Post by: longsock on Sat, 07 July 2018, 19:00:15
Post by: ye_cole on Sun, 08 July 2018, 16:41:50
ohh crap gotta go get switches now
can i get some hype in the chat
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Sun, 08 July 2018, 20:38:47
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 09 July 2018, 06:18:24
http://reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8uobzg/meetup_washington_dc_sep_15_2018/you rock Rama! crossing my fingers to have it by the DC meetup ;-)
AHHH when is it? I want to visit America again!
Sep 15 2018
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Omg awesome! Hope we can get the boards out to you by then :D
I will take someone’s spot if they want to drop out. I’m looking for Moon or Mist with the extra weight.
There's a waiting list here to fill cancelled orders: http://m60.iwantrama.works :)
ohh crap gotta go get switches now
can i get some hype in the chat
Which switches are you thinking! I have a new found love for Aliaz Silent Tactiles
Post by: maxf on Thu, 12 July 2018, 00:15:38
ffs why does it have to be RIGHT after I go back to school
RIP - maybe next year? :-(
http://reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8uobzg/meetup_washington_dc_sep_15_2018/you rock Rama! crossing my fingers to have it by the DC meetup ;-)
AHHH when is it? I want to visit America again!
Sep 15 2018
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Omg awesome! Hope we can get the boards out to you by then :DI will take someone’s spot if they want to drop out. I’m looking for Moon or Mist with the extra weight.
There's a waiting list here to fill cancelled orders: http://m60.iwantrama.works :)
ohh crap gotta go get switches now
can i get some hype in the chat
Which switches are you thinking! I have a new found love for Aliaz Silent Tactiles
I'll make up the guest room if you want to make the trip! Got some lubed 205g0 '86 vint blacks queued up for this. Sooooo ready! :-)
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 12 July 2018, 00:45:31
I'll make up the guest room if you want to make the trip! Got some lubed 205g0 '86 vint blacks queued up for this. Sooooo ready! :-)
Appreciate it!
Oh man, nothing better than well lubed vintage blacks! Currently been using Aliaz Silents and have been enjoying those, now I think I'm gonna switch back to linears again for a bit :D
Post by: Aerizu on Thu, 12 July 2018, 03:33:40
Post by: MightyFineShindig on Thu, 12 July 2018, 03:46:49
Does anyone knows what happened to GMK Heavy Industry?
Rama is working with EPBT now to make a Heavy Industry set.
Post by: Aerizu on Thu, 12 July 2018, 05:06:05
Does anyone knows what happened to GMK Heavy Industry?
Rama is working with EPBT now to make a Heavy Industry set.
It seems like so, but does that mean that the original GMK Heavy Industry would be abandoned?
Post by: Snappo on Thu, 12 July 2018, 05:08:10
Does anyone knows what happened to GMK Heavy Industry?
Rama is working with EPBT now to make a Heavy Industry set.
It seems like so, but does that mean that the original GMK Heavy Industry would be abandoned?
For now, yes. He might run it in the future, who knows.
Post by: asury on Thu, 12 July 2018, 05:29:24
Does anyone knows what happened to GMK Heavy Industry?
Rama is working with EPBT now to make a Heavy Industry set.
It seems like so, but does that mean that the original GMK Heavy Industry would be abandoned?
At least for now you can make a clone that might look close to it.
You'll need GMK Oblivion white alphas/GMK Honeywell alphas and Oblivion Monochrome modifier kit.
The yellow accent (fn, ctrl) if you want it, you can use yellow keys from GMK Serika later when it shipped.
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 12 July 2018, 17:57:48
Does anyone knows what happened to GMK Heavy Industry?
Rama is working with EPBT now to make a Heavy Industry set.
It seems like so, but does that mean that the original GMK Heavy Industry would be abandoned?
At least for now you can make a clone that might look close to it.
You'll need GMK Oblivion white alphas/GMK Honeywell alphas and Oblivion Monochrome modifier kit.
The yellow accent (fn, ctrl) if you want it, you can use yellow keys from GMK Serika later when it shipped.
:O Hell yeah, that would look awesome!! Now to buy all those kits :D
But yeah, PBT version is underway, we're just awaiting a second sample with a few fixes :)
Post by: 8ckerno on Sun, 15 July 2018, 12:10:54
Post by: RSC on Sun, 15 July 2018, 15:01:53
Will a switch puller be included? ;D
This ^^
Please.
Post by: superdoedoe on Mon, 16 July 2018, 00:33:04
Will a switch puller be included? ;D
This ^^
Please.
They cost like $3 just buy one beforehand.
Post by: Marutks on Mon, 16 July 2018, 05:06:33
They cost like $3 just buy one beforehand.
where? is it possible to buy one in the UK?
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 16 July 2018, 05:28:39
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 19 July 2018, 09:35:46
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b5095210e2e72f3e4d34b46/1532007813062/18C01D86-F697-42F9-BD7F-5B892069E367.jpg?format=1000w)
More pics here: https://rama.works/projectupdates/2018/7/20/m60-a-seq-3 (https://rama.works/projectupdates/2018/7/20/m60-a-seq-3)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b50959df950b763cdf2f0c7/1532007880264/273CE26B-C4C1-4027-A5E3-190B9353E588.jpg?format=1000w)
Post by: packman86 on Thu, 19 July 2018, 09:52:05
The packaging for the accessories has arrived in the warehouse!Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b5095210e2e72f3e4d34b46/1532007813062/18C01D86-F697-42F9-BD7F-5B892069E367.jpg?format=1000w)
More pics here: https://rama.works/projectupdates/2018/7/20/m60-a-seq-3 (https://rama.works/projectupdates/2018/7/20/m60-a-seq-3)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b50959df950b763cdf2f0c7/1532007880264/273CE26B-C4C1-4027-A5E3-190B9353E588.jpg?format=1000w)
Looking good!
Post by: ARSLOCK on Thu, 19 July 2018, 09:53:19
+1 for including a switch puller :D
Post by: Kerasan on Thu, 19 July 2018, 10:02:38
The packaging for the accessories has arrived in the warehouse!Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b5095210e2e72f3e4d34b46/1532007813062/18C01D86-F697-42F9-BD7F-5B892069E367.jpg?format=1000w)
More pics here: https://rama.works/projectupdates/2018/7/20/m60-a-seq-3 (https://rama.works/projectupdates/2018/7/20/m60-a-seq-3)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b50959df950b763cdf2f0c7/1532007880264/273CE26B-C4C1-4027-A5E3-190B9353E588.jpg?format=1000w)
gorgeous packaging.
maximum attention to detail.
KMK Labs.
Post by: ttot on Thu, 19 July 2018, 12:49:58
Post by: Marutks on Thu, 19 July 2018, 12:56:01
KAT looks pretty good!
Nice to see another alternative to SA profile keycaps. but... only black and white colours? dev/tty keyset looks so much better
Post by: Kerasan on Thu, 19 July 2018, 13:50:25
KAT looks pretty good!
Nice to see another alternative to SA profile keycaps. but... only black and white colours? dev/tty keyset looks so much better
there will be collaborations for other colors. This is a first classic demonstration set.
KMK Labs
Post by: Gacct on Thu, 19 July 2018, 14:13:06
Post by: Kerasan on Thu, 19 July 2018, 14:16:58
Rama will all of these individual component boxes be boxed within a box?
(https://i.imgur.com/lQwtuCr.jpg)
KMK Labs
Post by: Gacct on Thu, 19 July 2018, 14:19:57
Rama will all of these individual component boxes be boxed within a box?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lQwtuCr.jpg)
KMK Labs
I saw that, just wasn't sure if the individual boxes would all be boxed in that or if that will just contain the main case.
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 19 July 2018, 14:23:56
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 19 July 2018, 19:05:45
Rama will all of these individual component boxes be boxed within a box?
Hey, yeah! So the M60 enclosure is in that main box that Kerasan posted, then the accessories are encased in a foam insert which is placed above the main box :) This will all be inside a main shipping box that we've custom made to fit everything snugly :)
Man, it looks so good...Sept can't come soon enough
Getting closer! Will provide production updates as they come !
Awesome! :thumb: And yeah +1 for switch puller.
I actually do want to design a more suited switch puller - I'll see what I can do, but am not one to rush things!
gorgeous packaging.
maximum attention to detail.
KMK Labs.
Thanks mate!! Still more packaging to come too :D
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In the meantime, we'll start beginning to package all the Starter Kits so they're ready to go :)
Post by: _PixelNinja on Fri, 20 July 2018, 05:27:07
Seeing all of this unfold is very exiting, you guys have done amazing work and it's obvious a lot of passion has gone into this (as with all of your projects) — September can't come soon enough!
If I may ask one thing in regards to this photo:
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b5095210e2e72f3e4d34b46/1532007813062/18C01D86-F697-42F9-BD7F-5B892069E367.jpg?format=1000w)
My apologies if this is a silly question, but is there not a risk of the PVD coating getting scratched from rubbing against the packaging?
Also that second pic... Are you cheating on the Xiaomi Wiha with iFixit? :p
Post by: Kerasan on Fri, 20 July 2018, 14:54:30
RAMA,
Seeing all of this unfold is very exiting, you guys have done amazing work and it's obvious a lot of passion has gone into this (as with all of your projects) — September can't come soon enough!
If I may ask one thing in regards to this photo:Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b5095210e2e72f3e4d34b46/1532007813062/18C01D86-F697-42F9-BD7F-5B892069E367.jpg?format=1000w)
My apologies if this is a silly question, but is there not a risk of the PVD coating getting scratched from rubbing against the packaging?
Also that second pic... Are you cheating on the Xiaomi Wiha with iFixit? :p
if it were so fragile, nobody would wear watches with a PVD coating. however it is a legitimate question. from my experience with the pvd there is no such risk.
if you see any unboxing of Rama products, each piece is always wrapped in a protective membrane.
KMK Labs.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 20 July 2018, 15:30:11
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 21 July 2018, 02:28:44
RAMA,
Seeing all of this unfold is very exiting, you guys have done amazing work and it's obvious a lot of passion has gone into this (as with all of your projects) — September can't come soon enough!
If I may ask one thing in regards to this photo:Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b5095210e2e72f3e4d34b46/1532007813062/18C01D86-F697-42F9-BD7F-5B892069E367.jpg?format=1000w)
My apologies if this is a silly question, but is there not a risk of the PVD coating getting scratched from rubbing against the packaging?
Also that second pic... Are you cheating on the Xiaomi Wiha with iFixit? :p
Not a silly question! The hardness of the PVD coating is much higher than the plastic so it will not scratch it - however we will be doing some significant testing and throwing around to double check :P
Hahah! Of course not, the Wiha is still my favourite - using the iFixit for the bigger hex screw (Wiha didn't have the right size :-[ )
Honestly, I don't know if I'm more excited for the M60a or for the new stabs in development.
Yeah, I'm super excited for the stabs too, super fun to mould new things :D Keen to test the next proto when it arrives so can quickly move to production!
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sat, 21 July 2018, 15:34:42
Not a silly question! The hardness of the PVD coating is much higher than the plastic so it will not scratch it - however we will be doing some significant testing and throwing around to double check :PGotcha!
Hahah! Of course not, the Wiha is still my favourite - using the iFixit for the bigger hex screw (Wiha didn't have the right size :-[ )Yeah — the 3mm hex is the one bit missing from the Wiha kit for me. I wish there was one included.
Yeah, I'm super excited for the stabs too, super fun to mould new things :D Keen to test the next proto when it arrives so can quickly move to production!I'm exited to see how your stabilizers turn out too. I'd love to put some in the M60!
Post by: marre259 on Sat, 21 July 2018, 17:42:22
Post by: Etherealsound on Sat, 21 July 2018, 18:03:24
What's the timeline like for the stabs? Will I be able to put them in the M60 when it comes?
Not Rama, but I doubt it. He's still in development stage. Personally, I'd rather it come out a bit later and have it be closer to perfect. Hopefully pricing won't be too bad either. Would be nice to have an alternative to zeal stabs which are almost prohibitively expensive. Also, since the M60 is hotswappable, it shouldn't be too big of a deal to throw the stabs in when they do come out.
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 21 July 2018, 18:21:22
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 23 July 2018, 03:14:28
What's the timeline like for the stabs? Will I be able to put them in the M60 when it comes?
Not Rama, but I doubt it. He's still in development stage. Personally, I'd rather it come out a bit later and have it be closer to perfect. Hopefully pricing won't be too bad either. Would be nice to have an alternative to zeal stabs which are almost prohibitively expensive. Also, since the M60 is hotswappable, it shouldn't be too big of a deal to throw the stabs in when they do come out.
Yep, all correct there! Development will be a little longer on the stabs so we won't meet it in time for the M60-A but it is super easy to swap out new ones when the time comes :)
Getting closer to ship date! Cannot wait to see peoples desk setups :)
(https://i.imgur.com/vCQOFeB.jpg)
Post by: Aerizu on Mon, 23 July 2018, 03:37:56
What's the timeline like for the stabs? Will I be able to put them in the M60 when it comes?
Not Rama, but I doubt it. He's still in development stage. Personally, I'd rather it come out a bit later and have it be closer to perfect. Hopefully pricing won't be too bad either. Would be nice to have an alternative to zeal stabs which are almost prohibitively expensive. Also, since the M60 is hotswappable, it shouldn't be too big of a deal to throw the stabs in when they do come out.
Yep, all correct there! Development will be a little longer on the stabs so we won't meet it in time for the M60-A but it is super easy to swap out new ones when the time comes :)
Getting closer to ship date! Cannot wait to see peoples desk setups :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vCQOFeB.jpg)
Cool looking deskmat. What is it? :D
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 23 July 2018, 03:39:53
What's the timeline like for the stabs? Will I be able to put them in the M60 when it comes?
Not Rama, but I doubt it. He's still in development stage. Personally, I'd rather it come out a bit later and have it be closer to perfect. Hopefully pricing won't be too bad either. Would be nice to have an alternative to zeal stabs which are almost prohibitively expensive. Also, since the M60 is hotswappable, it shouldn't be too big of a deal to throw the stabs in when they do come out.
Yep, all correct there! Development will be a little longer on the stabs so we won't meet it in time for the M60-A but it is super easy to swap out new ones when the time comes :)
Getting closer to ship date! Cannot wait to see peoples desk setups :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vCQOFeB.jpg)
I need that mat..... Now :p
KMK Labs.
Post by: befbef on Mon, 23 July 2018, 04:24:57
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 23 July 2018, 04:30:18
Cool looking deskmat. What is it? :D
It's our new deskmat that we'll be releasing from stock, just awaiting them to arrive! :)
Post by: _PixelNinja on Mon, 23 July 2018, 04:33:09
Post by: Aerizu on Mon, 23 July 2018, 05:18:14
Cool looking deskmat. What is it? :D
It's our new deskmat that we'll be releasing from stock, just awaiting them to arrive! :)
Neat! I can't wait to own one :)
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 23 July 2018, 05:33:18
Will there be color options? You teased a grey variant in previous pictures.
For now it will just be the Gray variant :)
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 23 July 2018, 05:40:21
KMK Labs.
Post by: Cas on Mon, 23 July 2018, 16:45:53
Post by: redleaf on Tue, 24 July 2018, 02:06:38
Post by: l3nnys on Tue, 24 July 2018, 02:33:50
Digging to buy a second color ;D
Post by: marre259 on Tue, 24 July 2018, 03:27:05
There will be extras available?
Digging to buy a second color ;D
Just fill this out http://m60.iwantrama.works and rama will invoice you when someone drops out.
Post by: novelty on Tue, 24 July 2018, 20:23:18
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Wed, 25 July 2018, 05:57:49
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 25 July 2018, 06:58:33
A usb-c to usb-c cable would be lovely for mbp users. ;)I don't think the board supports c to c cables.
Post by: voight-kampff on Wed, 25 July 2018, 07:23:32
Why so?. The keyboard has an usb-c port. That is all what is needed. And of course the usb-c usb-cA usb-c to usb-c cable would be lovely for mbp users. ;)I don't think the board supports c to c cables.
cable
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Post by: ptiede on Wed, 25 July 2018, 09:13:36
I could be wrong but I believe atmega32u4 chips don't support USB c to USB c connections since they solely use USB 3.1. So the pcb won't recognize that port when plugged into a computer.Why so?. The keyboard has an usb-c port. That is all what is needed. And of course the usb-c usb-cA usb-c to usb-c cable would be lovely for mbp users. ;)I don't think the board supports c to c cables.
cable
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Post by: voight-kampff on Wed, 25 July 2018, 09:43:14
So far as I know the usb - A and C port size and form is usb-version agnostic, it depends what wireing the cable has. So usb 2.0 or 3.0 cables can exist in a form of usb-c.I could be wrong but I believe atmega32u4 chips don't support USB c to USB c connections since they solely use USB 3.1. So the pcb won't recognize that port when plugged into a computer.Why so?. The keyboard has an usb-c port. That is all what is needed. And of course the usb-c usb-cA usb-c to usb-c cable would be lovely for mbp users. ;)I don't think the board supports c to c cables.
cable
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But I might be wrong, or I just don't get the problem you are referring to.
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Post by: KingRama on Wed, 25 July 2018, 21:03:31
I'll wait for the yellow one. It's really a nice yellow :thumb:
KMK Labs.
love the yellow
Same! I wasn't sure if people would like the stark colour, but it's quite contrasting and looks really nice on a desk!
I can't wait for it to ship.
Very excited to ship them out, we'll be shipping in batches to make logistics easier, will update when we get to that stage :)
IE: Day 1: domestic orders Day 2: Single M60-A orders (top 3 colors) etc etc
So far as I know the usb - A and C port size and form is usb-version agnostic, it depends what wireing the cable has. So usb 2.0 or 3.0 cables can exist in a form of usb-c.I could be wrong but I believe atmega32u4 chips don't support USB c to USB c connections since they solely use USB 3.1. So the pcb won't recognize that port when plugged into a computer.Why so?. The keyboard has an usb-c port. That is all what is needed. And of course the usb-c usb-cA usb-c to usb-c cable would be lovely for mbp users. ;)I don't think the board supports c to c cables.
cable
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But I might be wrong, or I just don't get the problem you are referring to.
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The keyboard works USB-C to USB-C - tested on a Macbook Pro & Dell XPS USB-C ports ;D
Post by: Krakyn on Wed, 25 July 2018, 22:21:02
EDIT: Swapped! :)
Post by: asury on Thu, 26 July 2018, 00:02:09
Post by: ye_cole on Thu, 26 July 2018, 00:31:52
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Thu, 26 July 2018, 12:31:53
Moon M60-A with Calm Depths or Mist with Godspeed?
Post by: ye_cole on Thu, 26 July 2018, 20:33:45
Post by: kristmascane on Mon, 30 July 2018, 08:48:51
Post by: MeloDet on Mon, 30 July 2018, 16:29:43
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 31 July 2018, 00:48:56
With the whole BOX switch controversy going on I've been wondering about how that'll play out for those of us who ordered Royals with our M60. Do you already have the switches in? Or will it be possible for us to get the upcoming batches with corrected stems?
We have already received the entire batch of BOX Royal switches, however we are buying an entire new batch for our customers with the corrected stem :)
Post by: MeloDet on Tue, 31 July 2018, 12:00:26
With the whole BOX switch controversy going on I've been wondering about how that'll play out for those of us who ordered Royals with our M60. Do you already have the switches in? Or will it be possible for us to get the upcoming batches with corrected stems?
We have already received the entire batch of BOX Royal switches, however we are buying an entire new batch for our customers with the corrected stem :)
Oh man, that's awesome! Thanks!
Post by: voight-kampff on Tue, 31 July 2018, 12:38:07
will there be a delay shipping the starter kits because of this?
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 31 July 2018, 18:03:35
Oh man, that's awesome! Thanks!
For sure! :D
great.
will there be a delay shipping the starter kits because of this?
Doesn't look like it - we'll have the new batch this month :)
PCB's should be arriving in the next few weeks too and will be programmed and tested ! Will send updates when we get there
Post by: Krakyn on Mon, 06 August 2018, 04:49:19
EDIT: Swapped! :)
Post by: OmegaZero55 on Wed, 08 August 2018, 07:57:54
Post by: Mekuno on Wed, 08 August 2018, 14:57:39
Will there be any extra back weights available to purchase? I'm regretting not getting a moon one for my Lake M60-A.
I ordered moon m60a and different back plate, so the moon back plate that comes with it most likely won't be used. I am willing to sell it to you once it comes in if you are interested.
Post by: eyedrop on Wed, 08 August 2018, 17:31:19
Will there be any extra back weights available to purchase? I'm regretting not getting a moon one for my Lake M60-A.
I ordered moon m60a and different back plate, so the moon back plate that comes with it most likely won't be used. I am willing to sell it to you once it comes in if you are interested.
I might be interested in your moon back plate if OmegaZero55 is not.
Post by: vonswoopington on Wed, 08 August 2018, 19:03:41
Post by: DePulse on Wed, 08 August 2018, 20:26:24
Have dusk- If anyone wants to swap for moon hit me up!
I ordered Moon. I'm wanting to swap for dusk to match my laser set. How do we go about this? I'll also try to contact Rama about this. :D
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 08 August 2018, 21:11:23
Have dusk- If anyone wants to swap for moon hit me up!
I ordered Moon. I'm wanting to swap for dusk to match my laser set. How do we go about this? I'll also try to contact Rama about this. :D
Best to inbox someone else who is interested in swapping, then emailing support@rama.works and CC the person you want to swap with. Once both confirmed I can swap the order :)
Past all this, PCB's should be arriving either end of this week or early next! Will post an update on my site once they arrive. All enclosures have been machined and are in anodising and PVD coating!
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Wed, 08 August 2018, 21:35:51
Post by: W00gala on Wed, 08 August 2018, 21:48:42
Have dusk- If anyone wants to swap for moon hit me up!
I ordered Moon. I'm wanting to swap for dusk to match my laser set. How do we go about this? I'll also try to contact Rama about this. :D
Best to inbox someone else who is interested in swapping, then emailing support@rama.works and CC the person you want to swap with. Once both confirmed I can swap the order :)
Past all this, PCB's should be arriving either end of this week or early next! Will post an update on my site once they arrive. All enclosures have been machined and are in anodising and PVD coating!
Very Exciting! :thumb:
Post by: packman86 on Wed, 08 August 2018, 22:56:18
If anyone wants out and got mist/Moon with the external weight, I’ll buy in your spot! I can’t decide if most or Moon would go better with SA Godspeed though..
I have SA Godspeed on a silver TX-CP and it looks really nice. I don't think you can go wrong with either of those 2 options, though.
Post by: Solus on Wed, 08 August 2018, 23:33:22
Post by: kristmascane on Wed, 08 August 2018, 23:36:08
Exciting! Knocking on wood, but this seems a little ahead of schedule!Have dusk- If anyone wants to swap for moon hit me up!
I ordered Moon. I'm wanting to swap for dusk to match my laser set. How do we go about this? I'll also try to contact Rama about this. :D
Best to inbox someone else who is interested in swapping, then emailing support@rama.works and CC the person you want to swap with. Once both confirmed I can swap the order :)
Past all this, PCB's should be arriving either end of this week or early next! Will post an update on my site once they arrive. All enclosures have been machined and are in anodising and PVD coating!
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Post by: asury on Thu, 09 August 2018, 02:29:26
A slot opened up and I'm in boyzz. Moon + terminal. Can't wait for it to ship.
Congrats man, thanks for letting me know and arranging the swap, The moon will be awesome with terminal/oblivion/HFO.
As for my Sage, now my GMK 9009 will have a nice home ;D :thumb:
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Thu, 09 August 2018, 07:04:31
I have a Mist slot if anyone is interested in taking it.
I will take it. Do you have internal weight by chance?
Post by: vonswoopington on Thu, 09 August 2018, 08:40:59
A slot opened up and I'm in boyzz. Moon + terminal. Can't wait for it to ship.
Congrats man, thanks for letting me know and arranging the swap, The moon will be awesome with terminal/oblivion/HFO.
As for my Sage, now my GMK 9009 will have a nice home ;D :thumb:
No problem! Glad to help. Rama made the process painless.
Post by: ye_cole on Thu, 09 August 2018, 09:48:21
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No problem! Glad to help. Rama made the process painless.
Same, swapping was incredibly easy. Props rama!
Post by: Steerpike on Thu, 09 August 2018, 20:02:29
Post by: ye_cole on Thu, 09 August 2018, 20:11:33
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Just wanted to confirm my understanding; we would still need to get stabs, switches, and keycaps to complete this build?
yessir
Post by: Krakyn on Thu, 09 August 2018, 21:01:40
EDIT: Swapped! :)
Post by: Ducklett on Fri, 10 August 2018, 06:36:07
Post by: Steerpike on Fri, 10 August 2018, 08:38:05
Post by: Mekuno on Fri, 10 August 2018, 09:12:08
Out of curiosity, what switches are everyone getting? I've ordered 67g zealios :) Does anyone have recommendations for stabilisers? Are cheap ones just as good as more expensive ones? Will any cherry stabilisers be compatible with this?
I'd highly suggest reading/researching more about it, but generally speaking a screw in stab from gmk/genuine cherry is recommended. Cheap stabs will rattle and not sound as good. Nice choice of switches but I am going linear for this build. NOS MX black for me.
Post by: befbef on Fri, 10 August 2018, 09:14:26
Post by: bard on Fri, 10 August 2018, 09:17:56
Post by: voight-kampff on Fri, 10 August 2018, 09:40:30
Post by: Marutks on Fri, 10 August 2018, 09:50:03
Out of curiosity, what switches are everyone getting?
New 67g Zealios are really good. I am going to use Zeal transparent stabilizers.
Post by: asury on Fri, 10 August 2018, 10:09:46
Post by: vonswoopington on Fri, 10 August 2018, 10:28:17
Post by: onefivenine on Fri, 10 August 2018, 10:30:56
Is the spacebar 7u?Yes
Post by: vonswoopington on Fri, 10 August 2018, 10:42:48
Is the spacebar 7u?Yes
Thanks! I want to make sure I have the right stabs available.
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Fri, 10 August 2018, 12:50:31
I'm planning to use Halo true stem in Outemu Sky housing switches, a much cheaper alternative of Holy Panda :D. Already build some tester of it and I really like it.
I tried it and I was underwhelmed. I didn’t find them nearly as tactile as the stock items stem.. I feel like these aren’t true trues that I have..
Post by: stolenweapon on Fri, 10 August 2018, 20:32:50
Post by: onefivenine on Fri, 10 August 2018, 20:45:08
Post by: Krakyn on Fri, 10 August 2018, 22:22:52
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Post by: asury on Sat, 11 August 2018, 02:17:16
I'm planning to use Halo true stem in Outemu Sky housing switches, a much cheaper alternative of Holy Panda :D. Already build some tester of it and I really like it.
I tried it and I was underwhelmed. I didn’t find them nearly as tactile as the stock items stem.. I feel like these aren’t true trues that I have..
Hum, that's strange. FYI, I use the Halo stem with Clear Non LED hole Outemu top, along with Sky bottom, 68gr spring. IMO other outemu tops or the ICE bottom are not as good, as well as if I use 62gr instead of 68gr.
I compared it side by side with HP on a switch tester, not on a full board though..
Hope it will sounds good on M60-A, It's not as clacky as HP but from all outemu housing combination, the one that uses Sky bottom and Non LED top is the best IMO. One thing that I don't like, It's just feel a bit scratchy no matter how i tried to retool and lube them.
Post by: Etherealsound on Sat, 11 August 2018, 12:17:55
I'm planning to use Halo true stem in Outemu Sky housing switches, a much cheaper alternative of Holy Panda :D. Already build some tester of it and I really like it.
I tried it and I was underwhelmed. I didn’t find them nearly as tactile as the stock items stem.. I feel like these aren’t true trues that I have..
Hum, that's strange. FYI, I use the Halo stem with Clear Non LED hole Outemu top, along with Sky bottom, 68gr spring. IMO other outemu tops or the ICE bottom are not as good, as well as if I use 62gr instead of 68gr.
I compared it side by side with HP on a switch tester, not on a full board though..
Hope it will sounds good on M60-A, It's not as clacky as HP but from all outemu housing combination, the one that uses Sky bottom and Non LED top is the best IMO. One thing that I don't like, It's just feel a bit scratchy no matter how i tried to retool and lube them.
Sound is outemu housing's weakest point. It always sounds so hollow. The stem is the best thing about it so I'd say stick the stems into some retooled cherry housings.
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 12 August 2018, 13:28:14
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 12 August 2018, 14:04:29
For the purposes of a wrist rest, how wide is the board?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180812/bd77cc088d75ee99f0f6f89215dde257.jpg)
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Sun, 12 August 2018, 20:13:18
Post by: xondat on Sun, 12 August 2018, 20:20:59
Does anyone know if the PCB will support a stepped control key?
It's fixed layout, so no.
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 13 August 2018, 00:45:15
Does anyone know if the PCB will support a stepped control key?
It's fixed layout, so no.
Dam, just noticed this too. Not a deal breaker but would haven really liked stepped caps.
Post by: packman86 on Mon, 13 August 2018, 09:22:19
Does anyone know if the PCB will support a stepped control key?
It's fixed layout, so no.
Dam, just noticed this too. Not a deal breaker but would haven really liked stepped caps.
Stepped caps on HHKB layout is illegal.
Post by: pnkpanther65 on Mon, 13 August 2018, 10:14:01
Y'all in trubble now(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180813/50d59e70b1d333f691daa39a230df919.jpg)Does anyone know if the PCB will support a stepped control key?
It's fixed layout, so no.
Dam, just noticed this too. Not a deal breaker but would haven really liked stepped caps.
Stepped caps on HHKB layout is illegal.
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Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Mon, 13 August 2018, 12:36:54
Post by: _PixelNinja on Mon, 13 August 2018, 13:17:47
Has Rama released any timeline info on stabs? I’m sure it will be a while, but I’d love to put some on my new M60-A.
No time-frame, other than they will not be available for the release of the M60-A, from his last mention of 'em.
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 13 August 2018, 18:35:50
Has Rama released any timeline info on stabs? I’m sure it will be a while, but I’d love to put some on my new M60-A.
No timeline yet unfortunately :( waiting on the latest samples (1-2 weeks) - need to get it very right before moving into moulding :P
Was pretty happy with the first round of prototyping, so looking forward to testing out proto 2 :D
Post by: Steerpike on Tue, 14 August 2018, 11:08:39
Post by: Lisinge on Tue, 14 August 2018, 12:31:09
Anyone have any insight on stabilizers? I've read good things about zeal stabs and costar. Is this build meant to be used with PCB mount screw-in stabs?
You need PCB mount stabilizers, yes.
Most people think that GMK Screw-in stabilizers are the best stabs available right now.
Post by: nuclear_wizard on Tue, 14 August 2018, 15:06:49
Anyone have any insight on stabilizers? I've read good things about zeal stabs and costar. Is this build meant to be used with PCB mount screw-in stabs?
You need PCB mount stabilizers, yes.
Most people think that GMK Screw-in stabilizers are the best stabs available right now.
I love GMK screw-in stabs, but I'm a little wary of them since I read that someone shorted their board out from the screws going through the PCB hitting their metal case. Pretty sure all my boards have plenty of clearance, but still freaks me out a little bit...
Post by: Lisinge on Tue, 14 August 2018, 15:10:29
Anyone have any insight on stabilizers? I've read good things about zeal stabs and costar. Is this build meant to be used with PCB mount screw-in stabs?
You need PCB mount stabilizers, yes.
Most people think that GMK Screw-in stabilizers are the best stabs available right now.
I love GMK screw-in stabs, but I'm a little wary of them since I read that someone shorted their board out from the screws going through the PCB hitting their metal case. Pretty sure all my boards have plenty of clearance, but still freaks me out a little bit...
That's usually if the PCB isn't designed that well. Shouldn't be a problem on this PCB in particular because:
1. Wilba designs good PCBs.
2. Pads are generally not exposed due to the kailh sockets.
If you are really worried you could just use some nylon washers.
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 15 August 2018, 00:30:47
Dropping off a box to Wilba tonight :D
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 15 August 2018, 03:52:04
Anyone have any insight on stabilizers? I've read good things about zeal stabs and costar. Is this build meant to be used with PCB mount screw-in stabs?
You need PCB mount stabilizers, yes.
Most people think that GMK Screw-in stabilizers are the best stabs available right now.
I love GMK screw-in stabs, but I'm a little wary of them since I read that someone shorted their board out from the screws going through the PCB hitting their metal case. Pretty sure all my boards have plenty of clearance, but still freaks me out a little bit...
That's usually if the PCB isn't designed that well. Shouldn't be a problem on this PCB in particular because:
1. Wilba designs good PCBs.
2. Pads are generally not exposed due to the kailh sockets.
If you are really worried you could just use some nylon washers.
1. :D :blush:
2. This is single layout, so stabilizers do not overlap anything else. But also, typically the problem is overlapping with through-hole LEDs, and this has pre-assembled RGB LEDs.
Post by: kristmascane on Wed, 15 August 2018, 14:57:54
Post by: vonswoopington on Wed, 15 August 2018, 20:27:47
Speaking of PCB's, they're in our warehouse! I'll take some photos tomorrow :) The finish came out much better than the prototype ones and are very matte now :D
Dropping off a box to Wilba tonight :D
Nice! I'm excited to see the pics and updates.
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 15 August 2018, 22:18:11
I wonder if this will ship before TM gets the packaging in for their keyboards. LOL
The funnier thing would be m60 shipping near or before Tokyo 60. I wouldve gotten both but there is only so much budget.
Post by: spyruf on Fri, 17 August 2018, 00:00:48
Not picky on color either.
Post by: onefivenine on Fri, 17 August 2018, 20:49:59
If someone decided they aren't interested, I'm looking to take their spot!http://m60.iwantrama.works/
Not picky on color either.
Post by: fcoury on Sat, 18 August 2018, 11:46:51
Speaking of PCB's, they're in our warehouse! I'll take some photos tomorrow :) The finish came out much better than the prototype ones and are very matte now :D
Heya, did you get a chance to share these pictures? :D
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 19 August 2018, 09:00:03
Speaking of PCB's, they're in our warehouse! I'll take some photos tomorrow :) The finish came out much better than the prototype ones and are very matte now :D
Heya, did you get a chance to share these pictures? :D
Hey guys! So sorry, was supposed to post the photos the other day but have been caught up book-keeping for the past couple of days (and still going), just want to knock it off before I write-up something for the updates page :(
I'll post these for now!
(https://i.imgur.com/cXePN3I.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1QVGbVN.jpg)
Post by: packman86 on Sun, 19 August 2018, 09:47:38
Speaking of PCB's, they're in our warehouse! I'll take some photos tomorrow :) The finish came out much better than the prototype ones and are very matte now :D
Heya, did you get a chance to share these pictures? :D
Hey guys! So sorry, was supposed to post the photos the other day but have been caught up book-keeping for the past couple of days (and still going), just want to knock it off before I write-up something for the updates page :(
I'll post these for now!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cXePN3I.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1QVGbVN.jpg)
No LEDs in that smoool PCB?? Refund please!
JK! Can't wait to get mine!
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 20 August 2018, 06:28:23
No LEDs in that smoool PCB?? Refund please!
JK! Can't wait to get mine!
LOL maybe you can hack in a led to flash every time data flows through :P
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Finally got around to getting some time to write up some things in the updates blog [now Proto(Type)]
Check it out here: https://rama.works/prototype/2018/8/20/m60-a-seq-4-m6-b-wave-seq-2 (https://rama.works/prototype/2018/8/20/m60-a-seq-4-m6-b-wave-seq-2)
Post by: mpaarating on Mon, 20 August 2018, 08:21:44
Post by: vonswoopington on Mon, 20 August 2018, 10:37:38
No LEDs in that smoool PCB?? Refund please!
JK! Can't wait to get mine!
LOL maybe you can hack in a led to flash every time data flows through :P
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Finally got around to getting some time to write up some things in the updates blog [now Proto(Type)]
Check it out here: https://rama.works/prototype/2018/8/20/m60-a-seq-4-m6-b-wave-seq-2 (https://rama.works/prototype/2018/8/20/m60-a-seq-4-m6-b-wave-seq-2)
Thanks for the update. The PCB looks really nice. You mentioned that a few enclosure colors have already been completed. Will you be receiving them beforehand so we can see some sweet pics?
Post by: ReverbSlush on Mon, 20 August 2018, 12:50:34
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 20 August 2018, 23:30:52
My god those PCBs are gorgeous!
Thanks! We're super happy with how the custom silk screen came out :)
Thanks for the update. The PCB looks really nice. You mentioned that a few enclosure colors have already been completed. Will you be receiving them beforehand so we can see some sweet pics?
All the enclosures will be delivered us together, but we will have some photos early next month for you guys :)
just grabbed an M6-B to match my M60-A in Moon! I think it will be a nice combo...
They're meant to be together! Going to look awesome :D
Cheers!
Post by: vonswoopington on Mon, 20 August 2018, 23:36:40
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Wed, 22 August 2018, 20:03:42
Post by: Luciqueii on Thu, 23 August 2018, 12:34:42
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 23 August 2018, 14:36:58
Is this a case for 60%? Still possible to get? :)
Orders closed a looooong time ago. Try your luck when it reaches the market and people get it in the mail.
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 23 August 2018, 18:16:56
I am interested in getting a Yarbo cable for this build. I’ve heard worrying things about the connector being so heavy that it could damage the USB port on the PCB. The case on the M60-A looks like it might reinforce this port a bit. Do you think this is the case or is it still potentially a problem?
Do you have a link or image of what the cable looks like? :)
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Thu, 23 August 2018, 19:47:08
I am interested in getting a Yarbo cable for this build. I’ve heard worrying things about the connector being so heavy that it could damage the USB port on the PCB. The case on the M60-A looks like it might reinforce this port a bit. Do you think this is the case or is it still potentially a problem?
Do you have a link or image of what the cable looks like? :)
https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/57045316/TB2yYV7XEOO.eBjSZFLXXcxmXXa_!!57045316.jpg
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 23 August 2018, 20:04:52
I am interested in getting a Yarbo cable for this build. I’ve heard worrying things about the connector being so heavy that it could damage the USB port on the PCB. The case on the M60-A looks like it might reinforce this port a bit. Do you think this is the case or is it still potentially a problem?
Do you have a link or image of what the cable looks like? :)
https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/57045316/TB2yYV7XEOO.eBjSZFLXXcxmXXa_!!57045316.jpg (https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/57045316/TB2yYV7XEOO.eBjSZFLXXcxmXXa_!!57045316.jpg)
Hard to say, but should be fine given that circular part of the cable fits into the recess - else the new cable included with the M60-A will be metal (it's arriving next week - will show it then!)
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Fri, 24 August 2018, 04:20:23
Post by: NolaSwag on Fri, 24 August 2018, 11:31:44
I am interested in getting a Yarbo cable for this build. I’ve heard worrying things about the connector being so heavy that it could damage the USB port on the PCB. The case on the M60-A looks like it might reinforce this port a bit. Do you think this is the case or is it still potentially a problem?
Do you have a link or image of what the cable looks like? :)
https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/57045316/TB2yYV7XEOO.eBjSZFLXXcxmXXa_!!57045316.jpg (https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/57045316/TB2yYV7XEOO.eBjSZFLXXcxmXXa_!!57045316.jpg)
Hard to say, but should be fine given that circular part of the cable fits into the recess - else the new cable included with the M60-A will be metal (it's arriving next week - will show it then!)
Didn't realize a cable was going to be included! :D What's the length of the cable?
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 25 August 2018, 20:50:29
Is the schedule on time for m60-a? Will it be shipped the end of next month? Just can't wait to get it.Yeah! Should be around the end of September :) All the enclosures are just being anodised batch by batch right now :)
Didn't realize a cable was going to be included! :D What's the length of the cable?
1.5M :) Just gotta get it released from customs and I'll have some photos !
Post by: Krakyn on Sat, 25 August 2018, 20:59:59
EDIT: Swapped! :)
Post by: ye_cole on Sat, 25 August 2018, 21:01:27
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1.5M :) Just gotta get it released from customs and I'll have some photos !
can i get some hype in the chat
A L L M E T A L
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sun, 26 August 2018, 12:55:50
Post by: bard on Sun, 26 August 2018, 16:01:01
Post by: thunderbuttons on Mon, 27 August 2018, 08:13:57
Post by: voight-kampff on Mon, 27 August 2018, 10:56:42
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Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 27 August 2018, 12:07:47
Does anyone know which kind of aluminium alloy the M60-A is made from?
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probably 6061/6063
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 27 August 2018, 23:28:03
can i get some hype in the chat
A L L M E T A L
Paid customs today, so hopefully will arrive this week still :D
Hey Rama, are there any extra internal weights being produced? Any way of getting my hands on one for my order?
another question, I would like to purchase a second PCB, any chance?
Yep! Just reply to your order email :)
Does anyone know which kind of aluminium alloy the M60-A is made from?
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probably 6061/6063
6063, correct!
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 27 August 2018, 23:38:41
Post by: packman86 on Mon, 27 August 2018, 23:40:37
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 28 August 2018, 00:20:52
I never thought this day would come...
Getting close ;D
Post by: bard on Tue, 28 August 2018, 00:26:43
Yep! Just reply to your order email :)
Done, thx!
Post by: nocilantroplz on Tue, 28 August 2018, 01:09:40
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Tue, 28 August 2018, 01:25:22
Hello, I'm new here, and M60-A is love at first sight. Any idea when the next GB would be? and will the rose gold color be available again? Thank you!
Try your luck at signing up for the wait list (one of the first posts on this thread) or maybe someone with that color is wanting to get out of the buy and will let you buy them out of their spot. Good luck, man!
Post by: nocilantroplz on Tue, 28 August 2018, 01:36:55
Post by: Krakyn on Tue, 28 August 2018, 02:26:06
Hello, I'm new here, and M60-A is love at first sight. Any idea when the next GB would be? and will the rose gold color be available again? Thank you!
Just a heads up that the "rose gold" colour (I assume you mean Dusk) isn't exactly rose gold - it's more of a pink/red. Rama has posted a photo of the colour sample block at towards the bottom of page 1 of this thread, which should give you the best idea of what it looks like.
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 28 August 2018, 22:11:47
The USB cables have arrived, 1.5M long in black braided with metal ends!
(https://i.imgur.com/7WwcbZW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OJ7Ufsj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/csBLNbm.jpg)
Also:
MIST, KURO and SAGE have all been Anodized!
Will have better photos up on the blog later.
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 28 August 2018, 22:23:09
Post by: ptiede on Tue, 28 August 2018, 22:47:13
Hey all!!
The USB cables have arrived, 1.5M long in black braided with metal ends!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7WwcbZW.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OJ7Ufsj.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/csBLNbm.jpg)
Also:
MIST, KURO and SAGE have all been Anodized!
Will have better photos up on the blog later.
Ooof I can't wait for my sage board.
Post by: vonswoopington on Tue, 28 August 2018, 22:47:24
Post by: voight-kampff on Wed, 29 August 2018, 00:56:22
KingRama, will the source code for the keymaps released on github? For those who want modify and flash the keyboard vie terminal.
Replacement BOX Switches with updated stems also in!
Post by: gutsack on Wed, 29 August 2018, 01:17:55
KingRama, will the source code for the keymaps released on github? For those whu want modify and flash the keyboard vie terminal.
Yes, the PCB uses QMK.
Post by: voight-kampff on Wed, 29 August 2018, 01:26:25
I would like to know that the only option to update the firmware is not via a web interface.
KingRama, will the source code for the keymaps released on github? For those whu want modify and flash the keyboard vie terminal.
Yes, the PCB uses QMK.
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 29 August 2018, 02:41:41
thanks, yes I know, but that was not the question.
I would like to know that the only option to update the firmware is not via a web interface.KingRama, will the source code for the keymaps released on github? For those whu want modify and flash the keyboard vie terminal.
Yes, the PCB uses QMK.
If a PCB uses QMK, that implies that the code is released on github for people who want to modify it, compile it, flash it any way they choose.
So it does answer your question.
But if you want an answer from the guy who designed the PCB and writes the firmware, YES, you can do what you want.
Post by: voight-kampff on Wed, 29 August 2018, 10:03:14
thanks, yes I know, but that was not the question.
I would like to know that the only option to update the firmware is not via a web interface.KingRama, will the source code for the keymaps released on github? For those whu want modify and flash the keyboard vie terminal.
Yes, the PCB uses QMK.
If a PCB uses QMK, that implies that the code is released on github for people who want to modify it, compile it, flash it any way they choose.
So it does answer your question.
But if you want an answer from the guy who designed the PCB and writes the firmware, YES, you can do what you want.
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 29 August 2018, 10:17:02
cool then, thanks
Will be committed to here: https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/rama ;D
Post by: Zanduby on Wed, 29 August 2018, 10:59:54
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Wed, 29 August 2018, 11:57:15
Post by: mpaarating on Sun, 02 September 2018, 07:43:46
Post by: Kerasan on Sun, 02 September 2018, 07:47:24
Not sure if I missed this info or not, but what's the spacebar size on this?
7u :thumb:
KMK Labs
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 02 September 2018, 09:40:28
Bro! Updates are looking great, can't wait! Have fun in China.
Thanks Zanduby!! Will be off tomorrow and we'll be returning on the 11th - So please note that we'll be a little slower with our replies :)
Dang, I still think I made the right choice with Mist for my keycap set, but every time I see a photo of Moon, I get so jealous. You did an incredible job, Rama! I love that Moon color and will forever wonder what could have been!Mist's a beautiful color man! DW, when you get it, you're gonna love it - it's very pure with the Mirror Polished weight on the back, you'll see 8)
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Latest update posted here: https://rama.works/prototype/2018/9/1/m60-a-cables-koyu-announcement-misc (https://rama.works/prototype/2018/9/1/m60-a-cables-koyu-announcement-misc)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b8a22a4562fa736b2e48c5b/1535779532023/IMG_0316.JPG?format=1000w)
Post by: KaosJ on Sun, 02 September 2018, 09:49:50
Bro! Updates are looking great, can't wait! Have fun in China.
Thanks Zanduby!! Will be off tomorrow and we'll be returning on the 11th -Dang, I still think I made the right choice with Mist for my keycap set, but every time I see a photo of Moon, I get so jealous. You did an incredible job, Rama! I love that Moon color and will forever wonder what could have been!Mist's a beautiful color man! DW, when you get it, you're gonna love it - it's very pure with the Mirror Polished weight on the back, you'll see 8)
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Latest update posted here: https://rama.works/prototype/2018/9/1/m60-a-cables-koyu-announcement-misc (https://rama.works/prototype/2018/9/1/m60-a-cables-koyu-announcement-misc)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b8a22a4562fa736b2e48c5b/1535779532023/IMG_0316.JPG?format=1000w)
That PVD
(https://i.imgur.com/vn4U5d5.png)
Post by: mpaarating on Sun, 02 September 2018, 12:10:05
RIP time to buy more spacebars.Not sure if I missed this info or not, but what's the spacebar size on this?
7u :thumb:
KMK Labs
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Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 03 September 2018, 00:09:34
Bro! Updates are looking great, can't wait! Have fun in China.
Thanks Zanduby!! Will be off tomorrow and we'll be returning on the 11th - So please note that we'll be a little slower with our replies :)Dang, I still think I made the right choice with Mist for my keycap set, but every time I see a photo of Moon, I get so jealous. You did an incredible job, Rama! I love that Moon color and will forever wonder what could have been!Mist's a beautiful color man! DW, when you get it, you're gonna love it - it's very pure with the Mirror Polished weight on the back, you'll see 8)
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Latest update posted here: https://rama.works/prototype/2018/9/1/m60-a-cables-koyu-announcement-misc (https://rama.works/prototype/2018/9/1/m60-a-cables-koyu-announcement-misc)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b8a22a4562fa736b2e48c5b/1535779532023/IMG_0316.JPG?format=1000w)
What is the high of the KOYU's front side?
Post by: Marutks on Mon, 03 September 2018, 06:57:33
Post by: s3vv4 on Mon, 03 September 2018, 12:44:00
I saw some pictures of KOYU 65. It has weird bottom row layout. 1.5u and 1u keys
Literally the most classic bottom rows consists of 1.5u and 1u keys, it's not "weird"
Post by: up-in on Thu, 06 September 2018, 08:23:14
Thanks!
Post by: packman86 on Thu, 06 September 2018, 08:31:00
Hi, just a question regarding the kit. I've ordered the M60 alongside the stabilizer and switches. Do i still need to lubricate the stabilizer or is it pre-lube? If i need to, which lubrication is recommended?
Thanks!
Dielectric grease is great for stabs. Some people use 205 as well, but might be a bit more expensive.
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 06 September 2018, 08:44:42
Hi, just a question regarding the kit. I've ordered the M60 alongside the stabilizer and switches. Do i still need to lubricate the stabilizer or is it pre-lube? If i need to, which lubrication is recommended?
Thanks!
Dielectric grease is great for stabs. Some people use 205 as well, but might be a bit more expensive.
Super lube works really well and is quite affordable as well.
Post by: manzel on Thu, 06 September 2018, 12:23:54
There are many variants of Super Lube. 21030 is the one to use for stabs.Hi, just a question regarding the kit. I've ordered the M60 alongside the stabilizer and switches. Do i still need to lubricate the stabilizer or is it pre-lube? If i need to, which lubrication is recommended?Super lube works really well and is quite affordable as well.
Thanks!
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 06 September 2018, 21:22:37
I’ll get to the other questions when I can :)
DUSK:
(https://i.imgur.com/eNkPtdQ.jpg)
A few more: https://www.facebook.com/476878099179205/posts/965183497015327/ (https://www.facebook.com/476878099179205/posts/965183497015327/)
Post by: vonswoopington on Thu, 06 September 2018, 21:28:48
Apologies all for the lack of updates, still overseas!Wow that looks awesome. Can't wait to see the rest of the colors.
I’ll get to the other questions when I can :)
DUSK:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eNkPtdQ.jpg)
Post by: DePulse on Thu, 06 September 2018, 21:54:57
Apologies all for the lack of updates, still overseas!
I’ll get to the other questions when I can :)
DUSK:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eNkPtdQ.jpg)
A few more: https://www.facebook.com/476878099179205/posts/965183497015327/ (https://www.facebook.com/476878099179205/posts/965183497015327/)
oh boi :eek:
Post by: Vadurr on Fri, 07 September 2018, 02:16:57
Apologies all for the lack of updates, still overseas!
I’ll get to the other questions when I can :)
DUSK:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eNkPtdQ.jpg)
A few more: https://www.facebook.com/476878099179205/posts/965183497015327/ (https://www.facebook.com/476878099179205/posts/965183497015327/)
Ooof! All of a sudden I want Dusk...
Post by: voight-kampff on Fri, 07 September 2018, 02:56:34
Apologies all for the lack of updates, still overseas!Cool, looking great, I am counting back the seconds
I’ll get to the other questions when I can :)
DUSK:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eNkPtdQ.jpg)
A few more: https://www.facebook.com/476878099179205/posts/965183497015327/ (https://www.facebook.com/476878099179205/posts/965183497015327/)
Are the Moons ready now?
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Post by: Krakyn on Fri, 07 September 2018, 04:44:01
Post by: itsaferbie on Fri, 07 September 2018, 15:52:52
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 07 September 2018, 16:16:08
Post by: forstsiven on Fri, 07 September 2018, 23:59:52
Post by: Marutks on Sat, 08 September 2018, 15:59:17
Post by: Stagione on Sun, 09 September 2018, 03:35:18
Post by: fishinaspacesuit on Sun, 09 September 2018, 06:34:36
Edit: FOUND ONE!
Post by: NolaSwag on Mon, 10 September 2018, 16:29:10
Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 September 2018, 16:35:59
Somewhat off topic.. but which stabilizers in your opinion are the best/smoothest? I have a set of Zeal's screw-in stabs but I saw that GMK released screw-in stabs as well. Which would you recommend?
Zeal/GMK are about the same when properly modded imo. Nothing else worth considering rn.
Post by: NolaSwag on Mon, 10 September 2018, 16:40:06
Somewhat off topic.. but which stabilizers in your opinion are the best/smoothest? I have a set of Zeal's screw-in stabs but I saw that GMK released screw-in stabs as well. Which would you recommend?
Zeal/GMK are about the same when properly modded imo. Nothing else worth considering rn.
I gotcha, also just found this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD5Zj-ZgMLA) which seems to be a really good tutorial on stabilizer modding. Thought it would be helpful to throw it up here because I saw some other questions about stab lubing!
Post by: mpaarating on Tue, 11 September 2018, 00:14:39
I gotcha, also just found this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD5Zj-ZgMLA) which seems to be a really good tutorial on stabilizer modding. Thought it would be helpful to throw it up here because I saw some other questions about stab lubing!
This was super helpful. I just built a Chiwi60 and the damn stabs are so rattly. Can't wait to fix them.
Post by: Marutks on Tue, 11 September 2018, 04:45:07
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 12 September 2018, 04:29:01
Everything looks amazing. Are there any photos of lake?
Lakes should be done soon then they'll all be shipped to our warehouse here in Melbourne for final packaging and shipments :D Will have an update once the LAKE ones are done:)
Back in Australia now, so will have to spend some time catching up on lots then will hopefully have some time to write up a good update when ready! Thanks!
Post by: Lisinge on Fri, 14 September 2018, 13:35:01
Everything looks amazing. Are there any photos of lake?
Lakes should be done soon then they'll all be shipped to our warehouse here in Melbourne for final packaging and shipments :D Will have an update once the LAKE ones are done:)
Back in Australia now, so will have to spend some time catching up on lots then will hopefully have some time to write up a good update when ready! Thanks!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/WIHymRwcc68uc/giphy.gif)
Post by: RivieraS on Fri, 14 September 2018, 22:35:41
Hello, I'm new here, and M60-A is love at first sight. Any idea when the next GB would be? and will the rose gold color be available again? Thank you!+111111111
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sat, 15 September 2018, 02:49:21
Latest update posted here: https://rama.works/prototype/2018/9/1/m60-a-cables-koyu-announcement-misc (https://rama.works/prototype/2018/9/1/m60-a-cables-koyu-announcement-misc)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b8a22a4562fa736b2e48c5b/1535779532023/IMG_0316.JPG?format=1000w)
Is that the Kuro/Moon weight on the left ?
Post by: voight-kampff on Sat, 15 September 2018, 03:22:25
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Post by: KingRama on Sat, 15 September 2018, 10:51:36
Will there be a delay in shipping the M60-A?
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Just awaiting the LAKE units to finish anodising, then they will all be shipped to our warehouse and promptly shipped out to everyone :)
In the meantime we have been packing and getting all other components ready for shipping (ie starter kits and accessories)
Hello, I'm new here, and M60-A is love at first sight. Any idea when the next GB would be? and will the rose gold color be available again? Thank you!+111111111
It'll return!
Latest update posted here: https://rama.works/prototype/2018/9/1/m60-a-cables-koyu-announcement-misc (https://rama.works/prototype/2018/9/1/m60-a-cables-koyu-announcement-misc)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b8a22a4562fa736b2e48c5b/1535779532023/IMG_0316.JPG?format=1000w) (https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5b8a22a4562fa736b2e48c5b/1535779532023/IMG_0316.JPG?format=1000w)
Is that the Kuro/Moon weight on the left ?
Moon/Moon - picture is heavily edited/filtered though - not accurate :P
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sat, 15 September 2018, 14:15:54
Moon/Moon - picture is heavily edited/filtered though - not accurate :PDon't play with my heart :confused:
Post by: BerserkZz on Sat, 15 September 2018, 21:26:17
Post by: manzel on Sun, 16 September 2018, 10:11:38
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Sun, 16 September 2018, 10:37:13
Just asking, will it be possible to buy internal weight at this point or maybe after gb is concluded? I just realized I forgot to do so....
Rama might have extras. Let’s see what he says.
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 17 September 2018, 07:23:42
Just asking, will it be possible to buy internal weight at this point or maybe after gb is concluded? I just realized I forgot to do so....
Just reply to your order email and we will see if we have allocations available :)
Post by: BerserkZz on Mon, 17 September 2018, 10:59:55
Just asking, will it be possible to buy internal weight at this point or maybe after gb is concluded? I just realized I forgot to do so....
Just reply to your order email and we will see if we have allocations available :)
Thanks a lot, although I didn't receive any email from you.
Post by: Lisinge on Mon, 17 September 2018, 11:49:00
Just asking, will it be possible to buy internal weight at this point or maybe after gb is concluded? I just realized I forgot to do so....
Just reply to your order email and we will see if we have allocations available :)
Thanks a lot, although I didn't receive any email from you.
you should have received a orderconfirmation from support atz rama dotz works
Post by: chief_shankaho on Mon, 17 September 2018, 11:58:12
Just asking, will it be possible to buy internal weight at this point or maybe after gb is concluded? I just realized I forgot to do so....
Just reply to your order email and we will see if we have allocations available :)
Thanks a lot, although I didn't receive any email from you.
I read Rama's reply as "Just reply(ied) to your order email...", I'm assuming you did too. He's saying that you can reply to your original order confirmation email. I had to do that as well to change my color selection and he responded pretty quickly.
Post by: vonswoopington on Tue, 18 September 2018, 11:53:21
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 18 September 2018, 12:07:10
Just to confirm this, as I ordered a internal weight a couple of weeks ago. Just reply to your order confirmation email that you received after you placed your order for the m60. I just asked for an internal weight if they had any extras because it does seem to be based on allocation, as Rama mentioned.Just asking, will it be possible to buy internal weight at this point or maybe after gb is concluded? I just realized I forgot to do so....
Just reply to your order email and we will see if we have allocations available :)
Thanks a lot, although I didn't receive any email from you.
I read Rama's reply as "Just reply(ied) to your order email...", I'm assuming you did too. He's saying that you can reply to your original order confirmation email. I had to do that as well to change my color selection and he responded pretty quickly.
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 18 September 2018, 12:57:24
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Tue, 18 September 2018, 14:18:21
Yep, I added a weight just this morning. Quick reply to my email and I've already paid the new invoice. Also, am I the only one who ordered the mist color? lol. Oh well, I think it's gonna look nice.
I got Mist! Part of me wishes I got Moon, but I think Mist will be amazing.
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Tue, 18 September 2018, 20:32:48
Post by: stxfreak on Wed, 19 September 2018, 02:06:40
I’ve never typed on a thick integrated plate before. How would it affect the sound of switches? Would it make them louder or would the rigidity dampen it? Also the description says milled from brass and aluminum. The plate is aluminum, correct? Finally, would there be any room for a foam liner to dampen the sound or are the tolerances too tight?
So far there are only non integrated 5mm (4.8mm) plates, you can look up zephyr or noxary 280 prototype for the soundtests. I asked rama for the clearence for something like a sorbothane sheet and he told me there should be about 3mm clearence for something like that. And yes, plate is aluminum, only the backweight is brass afaik.
Post by: Marutks on Wed, 19 September 2018, 04:44:19
I’ve never typed on a thick integrated plate before. How would it affect the sound of switches? Would it make them louder or would the rigidity dampen it?
Integrated plate makes sound of switches louder. But I have typed only on clueboard integrated plate.
Zephyr's plate dampens the sound but it's not integrated.
Post by: chief_shankaho on Wed, 19 September 2018, 07:01:24
I’ve never typed on a thick integrated plate before. How would it affect the sound of switches? Would it make them louder or would the rigidity dampen it? Also the description says milled from brass and aluminum. The plate is aluminum, correct? Finally, would there be any room for a foam liner to dampen the sound or are the tolerances too tight?
I got this as a pad on my workbench and have a ton leftover, planning on trying it for dampening. It's got a gentle adhesive on the back and is like 2.3mm thick so hopefully it fits. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005I58W02/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005I58W02/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Post by: _PixelNinja on Wed, 19 September 2018, 10:17:50
Post by: hhkbp2 on Wed, 19 September 2018, 11:54:01
It'll return!
Good to know. :thumb:
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Wed, 19 September 2018, 12:13:48
When discussing with Wilba, he told me what you will be able to fit will depend on whether you have an internal weight or not. With the weight, it will be a tight fit (most of the space available being at the back of the case)?
Gah.. got a weight. Hopefully I can still make it fit. I want to silence this thing as much as possible given that it’s my work board.
Post by: chief_shankaho on Wed, 19 September 2018, 12:18:10
When discussing with Wilba, he told me what you will be able to fit will depend on whether you have an internal weight or not. With the weight, it will be a tight fit (most of the space available being at the back of the case)?
Gah.. got a weight. Hopefully I can still make it fit. I want to silence this thing as much as possible given that it’s my work board.
Depending on where the weight sits in the case, you can always cut the shape of the weight out of whatever material you're using to silence the board. Then it'll sort of fill in all that empty space where the weight doesn't sit. I don't know how big the weight is in relation to the case, but even if the weight takes up most of that free room, I'd assume there's still some room for silencing material.
Post by: voight-kampff on Thu, 20 September 2018, 01:47:28
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Post by: stxfreak on Thu, 20 September 2018, 02:15:59
Post by: asury on Fri, 21 September 2018, 06:40:55
Is the late September shipping estimation still on track? ;D
Post by: Clix4Clax on Fri, 21 September 2018, 09:10:25
Can't wait to receive my board :cool:
Is the late September shipping estimation still on track? ;D
Rama told me the other day the last color is still in anodising. They have to ship from the factory, do QC and sorting and shipping so my guess would be mid/late October.. This is my first custom board so i dont have any reference for a timeline but im sure thats not too far off.
So excited, gotta pick a USB c cable now.
Post by: Lisinge on Fri, 21 September 2018, 17:12:31
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 21 September 2018, 21:46:36
Spoke to rama today and the m60s are done and packaging is done. They are now going to be too hq and packed and shipped
Well, that's pretty amazing news :thumb:
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 22 September 2018, 05:12:21
Spoke to rama today and the m60s are done and packaging is done. They are now going to be too hq and packed and shipped
Yep!
Just a quick update, so all colors are now anodized and the packaging is on the way to our manufacturer - they will do an initial packing of the main boards and promptly sea-freight it to us.
Sea freight will take 2-3 weeks, and we'll do final assembly and packaging here then ship in batches of colour and country :) Still have to get around to posting some pictures and writing up more of an update on our site but that's where we're at right now!
Cheers :)
Post by: asury on Sat, 22 September 2018, 05:18:31
Spoke to rama today and the m60s are done and packaging is done. They are now going to be too hq and packed and shipped
Yep!
Just a quick update, so all colors are now anodized and the packaging is on the way to our manufacturer - they will do an initial packing of the main boards and promptly sea-freight it to us.
Sea freight will take 2-3 weeks, and we'll do final assembly and packaging here then ship in batches of colour and country :) Still have to get around to posting some pictures and writing up more of an update on our site but that's where we're at right now!
Cheers :)
Post by: Etherealsound on Sat, 22 September 2018, 09:39:51
Spoke to rama today and the m60s are done and packaging is done. They are now going to be too hq and packed and shipped
Yep!
Just a quick update, so all colors are now anodized and the packaging is on the way to our manufacturer - they will do an initial packing of the main boards and promptly sea-freight it to us.
Sea freight will take 2-3 weeks, and we'll do final assembly and packaging here then ship in batches of colour and country :) Still have to get around to posting some pictures and writing up more of an update on our site but that's where we're at right now!
Cheers :)
Yesss, can't wait to see an update to see how lake turned out!
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 23 September 2018, 03:45:01
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Post by: jjwax on Mon, 24 September 2018, 15:21:46
Post by: Lisinge on Mon, 24 September 2018, 16:53:44
is it possible to swim out to the boat caryring my board and pick it up there?
Keyboard pirates! That would make an awesome movie!
Post by: voight-kampff on Tue, 25 September 2018, 08:10:28
mechanical pirates vs membrane soldiers
Post by: MMKB on Tue, 25 September 2018, 11:44:26
;D
mechanical pirates vs membrane soldiers
Who wants to be membrane when you can be mechanical?
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Wed, 26 September 2018, 03:31:44
Post by: arsenics on Wed, 26 September 2018, 03:36:20
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94829.msg2661514.msg#2661514
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 26 September 2018, 04:38:27
Haven't heard from rama for quite a time. Is anything OK?
Yes! :P All good! Initial packaging has arrived at our manufacturer and they are packing now before sea-freight to us :) A few boxes where damaged in transit and are being remade and sent over in the next day or so
Post by: Champalan on Wed, 26 September 2018, 07:51:49
Post by: dimo on Thu, 27 September 2018, 21:07:31
Sorry if it's been asked before
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 27 September 2018, 21:39:25
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Thu, 27 September 2018, 21:40:56
I need pictures of lake in my life!
:D So do I.
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Thu, 27 September 2018, 22:16:51
Will there be extras/ has Rama done that in the past?
Sorry if it's been asked before
It’s been asked several times.. there will be another round.
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 30 September 2018, 11:26:26
Wilba, Kate and I went into the warehouse today to program and pack some of the PCB's! About 1/3rd done on that front. Just thought I'd post a quick little update :) All the starter kits, Cables & Package Inclusions (Screws/Tools etc) have been packed already.
Apologies for the bad photos, spent more time packing and forgot my camera :-[
(https://i.imgur.com/JZRfgSz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uR8cClh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nxDwGox.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NCup5IW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kxih3vT.jpg)
Post by: Darknight00z on Sun, 30 September 2018, 12:02:37
Post by: PoohGom on Sun, 30 September 2018, 13:17:29
Post by: kristmascane on Sun, 30 September 2018, 13:29:23
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Post by: fishinaspacesuit on Sun, 30 September 2018, 22:41:29
Post by: stxfreak on Mon, 01 October 2018, 02:10:55
Gorgeous PCBs and packaging! I'm so glad I ordered an extra PCB =)
I also did and am very glad, maybe just use it as a wall lighting :D
Post by: fishinaspacesuit on Mon, 01 October 2018, 02:17:12
Haha, I've been thinking.. maybe I can create a custom wall frame and put the PCB into the frame and then hang on my wall. Just needs a small enclosure out so for the power cable and can be turned on. The PCB is art by itself! Would be a good weekend project for sure.Gorgeous PCBs and packaging! I'm so glad I ordered an extra PCB =)
I also did and am very glad, maybe just use it as a wall lighting :D
Post by: Zanduby on Mon, 01 October 2018, 15:13:19
Haha, I've been thinking.. maybe I can create a custom wall frame and put the PCB into the frame and then hang on my wall. Just needs a small enclosure out so for the power cable and can be turned on. The PCB is art by itself! Would be a good weekend project for sure.Gorgeous PCBs and packaging! I'm so glad I ordered an extra PCB =)
I also did and am very glad, maybe just use it as a wall lighting :D
Shadow boxes are the best. They come in all shapes and sizes. I'm sure you could find one that would fit a PCB amazingly.
Post by: ptykozoon on Mon, 01 October 2018, 17:24:36
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 01 October 2018, 23:07:46
Is there going to be another thread for Koyu?
Yep! Will be :)
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Also great idea with the sculpture lighting with the PCB's, i need to get a frame and do the same ;D
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 02 October 2018, 01:15:04
Shhh... maybe he'll think he was supposed to give us one
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 02 October 2018, 02:18:16
any updates on that color matching PVD coated switch puller that comes with the board?😂😂😂 LOL, almost got me! Will be working on that one from the KOYU video though :p
Shhh... maybe he'll think he was supposed to give us one
Post by: ReverbSlush on Tue, 02 October 2018, 05:45:13
Post by: Kerasan on Tue, 02 October 2018, 07:20:42
any updates on that color matching PVD coated switch puller that comes with the board?
Shhh... maybe he'll think he was supposed to give us one
which color do you mean?
KMK Labs
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 05 October 2018, 14:34:08
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 06 October 2018, 02:09:39
Just checking in, these are still slated to be shipped before the end of the month?
Yep! Still at this point on track to be shipping by the end of the month :) Will have an update on our blog today!
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 06 October 2018, 11:28:57
(https://i.imgur.com/jENQuFK.jpg)
Post by: cucgach on Sat, 06 October 2018, 12:28:02
Have posted the latest update here: https://rama.works/prototype (https://rama.works/prototype)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jENQuFK.jpg)
Thanks for the update! Love the factory tour sum up!
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 06 October 2018, 12:43:21
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5bb8b45d652deace1693f888/1538831477454/IMG_0364.JPG?format=1000w)
Post by: Etherealsound on Sat, 06 October 2018, 12:48:07
Have posted the latest update here: https://rama.works/prototype (https://rama.works/prototype)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jENQuFK.jpg)
Dam, that's awesome. Where are the lakes thoo.
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 07 October 2018, 00:55:13
Thanks for the update! Love the factory tour sum up!
No worries at all! Hope to post more in the future on things like this :)
Aw **** yeah deep fried aluminium, get in my bellyShow Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5bb8b45d652deace1693f888/1538831477454/IMG_0364.JPG?format=1000w)
Was so cool seeing it go in as raw aluminium then come out to a deep fried dusk colour, magic!
Have posted the latest update here: https://rama.works/prototype (https://rama.works/prototype)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jENQuFK.jpg)
Dam, that's awesome. Where are the lakes thoo.
At the time the lake units where not complete, we'll see them when they come in :D
Post by: Cktenders on Sun, 07 October 2018, 08:57:18
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 07 October 2018, 18:43:01
Seeing those makes me wish I went dusk over moon.
Each colour is great in their own way, Moon will always look good too ;D Just chuck a good set on and you're good!
Post by: Krakyn on Mon, 08 October 2018, 07:13:03
Very much looking forward to receiving mine - never owned a keyboard of this quality before.
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 08 October 2018, 07:55:23
Thanks for the update. The production process looks incredible, would have loved to see some video of it too!
Very much looking forward to receiving mine - never owned a keyboard of this quality before.
No worries at all! Will hope to have another update soon :)
And I'm super looking forward to you receiving the keyboard too, please post some photos of it on your desk when you get it together - I'd love to see!
Post by: ExuDeCandomble on Tue, 09 October 2018, 07:25:10
Will there be extras/ has Rama done that in the past?
Sorry if it's been asked before
It’s been asked several times.. there will be another round.
My body (or bank account) is ready.
I definitely need a Dusk after seeing the recent photos.
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 14 October 2018, 07:00:43
All PCB's have been programmed and packaged as of today! The enclosures have officially been shipped as of yesterday as well. Final stretch now, super looking forward to it.
Further update posted here: https://rama.works/prototype/2018/10/14/boxr-m60-a-further-collaborations (https://rama.works/prototype/2018/10/14/boxr-m60-a-further-collaborations)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5bc1fb0d71c10bab9f295687/1539439419794/376685F4-9BC5-4822-AAB3-CFBA5370E44B.jpg?format=1000w)
Post by: Solotov on Sun, 14 October 2018, 08:34:45
Post by: Rumai on Sun, 14 October 2018, 13:40:37
His post felt like the first realistic look at the M60-A tbh.
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 14 October 2018, 22:53:33
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 15 October 2018, 01:23:15
Just wondering, do we have to use transparent switches in order for the LED's to shine through?Most definitely. Switches like regular Cherries only have tiny holes for the LED leads to go through. I doubt you’d get a significant amount of light through those. You’ll either want a fully transparent switch or an opaque bottom that has an SMD cutout with a transparent top.
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 15 October 2018, 08:55:10
Just wondering, do we have to use transparent switches in order for the LED's to shine through?Most definitely. Switches like regular Cherries only have tiny holes for the LED leads to go through. I doubt you’d get a significant amount of light through those. You’ll either want a fully transparent switch or an opaque bottom that has an SMD cutout with a transparent top.
Ah I see, so that limits my switch options quite a bit. It's kind of a shame since most switches with transparent housings tend to sound a bit worse.
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 15 October 2018, 09:11:28
Just wondering, do we have to use transparent switches in order for the LED's to shine through?
I've used regular, non-transparent switches in a backlit RGB board in the past and no light comes through.
Post by: nerium on Mon, 15 October 2018, 10:25:11
Which leads me to my next question.. I know it's largely personal preference, but what are considered to be the "best" switches these days? I'm considering Zealios/Zilents but am also thinking maybe about the normal Cherry MX Brown RGB's. Thoughts?
Post by: Clix4Clax on Mon, 15 October 2018, 10:54:59
Just wondering, do we have to use transparent switches in order for the LED's to shine through?
I've used regular, non-transparent switches in a backlit RGB board in the past and no light comes through.
I never thought about this.. What clicky switches exist with transparent bottoms? I heard the box switch issue still hasn't been fixed either.
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 15 October 2018, 11:14:47
Just wondering, do we have to use transparent switches in order for the LED's to shine through?
I've used regular, non-transparent switches in a backlit RGB board in the past and no light comes through.
I never thought about this.. What clicky switches exist with transparent bottoms? I heard the box switch issue still hasn't been fixed either.
Off the top of my head, you could most likely find or make the following RGB clicky switches in my order of preference:
Kailh heavy pale blue
Kailh pro light green
aristotle stem in a clear housing (could use aliaz, zeal, otemu ice) would put these higher up but I hate having to add plastic wrap to the stems to keep the keycaps from falling off
Cherry blue
Kailh speed gold
Gateron blue
Kailh blue
Cherry RGB version of most of their switches:
http://www.epathbuy.com/product/cherry-mx-mechanical-switches/
You would probably have to do a spring swap in the blue if you wanted greens (putting a heavier spring in the blue housing)
Gateron smd bottoms that would let a lot of light through:
https://www.1upkeyboards.com/shop/switches/gateron-clear-top-smd-switches-blue/
Non-box Kailh switches that are RGB compatible:
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/switches/products/kailh-switches
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/switches/products/kailh-pro-switches
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/switches/products/novelkeys-x-kailh-speed-heavy-switches
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/switches/products/kailh-speed-switches
Post by: Clix4Clax on Mon, 15 October 2018, 13:09:45
Just wondering, do we have to use transparent switches in order for the LED's to shine through?
I've used regular, non-transparent switches in a backlit RGB board in the past and no light comes through.
I never thought about this.. What clicky switches exist with transparent bottoms? I heard the box switch issue still hasn't been fixed either.
Off the top of my head, you could most likely find or make the following RGB clicky switches in my order of preference:
Kailh heavy pale blue
Kailh pro light green
aristotle stem in a clear housing (could use aliaz, zeal, otemu ice) would put these higher up but I hate having to add plastic wrap to the stems to keep the keycaps from falling off
Cherry blue
Kailh speed gold
Gateron blue
Kailh blue
Cherry RGB version of most of their switches:
http://www.epathbuy.com/product/cherry-mx-mechanical-switches/
You would probably have to do a spring swap in the blue if you wanted greens (putting a heavier spring in the blue housing)
Gateron smd bottoms that would let a lot of light through:
https://www.1upkeyboards.com/shop/switches/gateron-clear-top-smd-switches-blue/
Non-box Kailh switches that are RGB compatible:
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/switches/products/kailh-switches
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/switches/products/kailh-pro-switches
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/switches/products/novelkeys-x-kailh-speed-heavy-switches
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/switches/products/kailh-speed-switches
Thank you for the reply. I was looking at the RGB compatible Kailh switches but was not sure if they would work as the bottom housing is still opaque. Am i misunderstanding? the LED is near the bottom of the switch. Or does diffusion only happen in the tops and not the bottoms?
Also, Kailh with the pro stems have no report of cracked stems right?
Post by: nerium on Mon, 15 October 2018, 14:11:46
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 15 October 2018, 17:46:43
This may have been addressed already, but what's the deal with the Box Royals? I've been seeing a lot of discussions surrounding the tolerance levels of the box stems, cracking/stretching key caps, etc. It doesn't look like they've managed to fix the issues yet. I am going to be putting my most prized key caps on the M60 so if there's any chance at all that these switches are going to cause any damage whatsoever, I'll find new switches to put on it.
Which leads me to my next question.. I know it's largely personal preference, but what are considered to be the "best" switches these days? I'm considering Zealios/Zilents but am also thinking maybe about the normal Cherry MX Brown RGB's. Thoughts?
Hey! The BOX Royals we are supplying are with the new adjusted stem :) We received an entire batch of the old stem design that we had to replace.
As for best switch, absolutely right that it's largely personal but my current favourite is Aliaz Silent Tactiles, been using them for the past few months and loving it!
Any additional photos from @imprevade ? (Specifically, different colors?)
His post felt like the first realistic look at the M60-A tbh.
We sent him over our Moon proto for when he was working on the KOYU launch video. We have various photos of the Sage/Moon on our blog: https://rama.works/prototype (https://rama.works/prototype)
Post by: nerium on Tue, 16 October 2018, 08:37:41
This is the discussion on GH I just finished reading through as well.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96323.300
I saw those Aliaz switches the other day, they look neat! I'll have to check them out. Thank you!!
Post by: Sun on Tue, 16 October 2018, 21:23:35
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 17 October 2018, 18:37:52
The new adjusted stems (with the revised/smaller nubs), while better, are reportedly still problematic. I'm not sure how many people have issues vs how many do not, but the latest round of "fixed" stems are supposedly causing stress fractures in some keycaps, which over time could crack completely, or at the very least, cause the keycaps to not fit other stems correctly anymore. There was a decent amount of drama in various MD drop discussions that seems to have died down recently.
This is the discussion on GH I just finished reading through as well.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96323.300 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96323.300)
I saw those Aliaz switches the other day, they look neat! I'll have to check them out. Thank you!!
Something definitely to be wary of, I haven't personally had any issues on my end.
Definitely check the Aliaz out! There's something about them I really like ;D
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ALSO! As we'll be shipping in a few weeks, could everyone please check that the shipping address they have used is correct? And, if you haven't included a phone number in your order, please reply to your order confirmation email with the one! DHL Express requires a phone number, so it would be best to include it! I didn't realise at the time that I had not made it compulsory at checkout :( But yes, please reply direct to order confirmation, both for adding a phone number and changing your address (this is important as it'll be added to our ticketing system!) If there's no need for any changes and everything is correct, no need to reply to the confirmation email. EDIT: You will have to log in and check on your account to see if the phone number is there or not on the order, it is not included in the order confirmation email, please check before sending a support email!
Past that, thank you all for your patience! We'll let everyone know the shipping schedules once we get the stock in so we can plan accordingly. At this stage, there's not too much to update on as we wait for the freight-shipment to come in, we'll spend some time clearing the warehouse and making space for the pallets for arrival. Everything else is ready to go on our end, with the PCB's all tested and programmed! We'll have to spend a day or so packing the internal weights/extra back weights once they arrive also.
Cheers!
Post by: DePulse on Wed, 17 October 2018, 19:14:53
Post by: ullr on Wed, 17 October 2018, 19:33:30
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 17 October 2018, 20:12:54
Let the month of October end with joy and start November with a new toy :D :D :D lol so excited!!Hahahaha yes! ;D ;D ;D
I deleted the order confirmation email, where should I send my phone number
Just to support@rama.works with some information and we should be able to find your order! :)
Post by: voight-kampff on Thu, 18 October 2018, 01:00:45
I just replied to the confirmation mail, sent my phone number, but I got a reply email with the title "RAMA WORKS user activation"
url is: https://ramaworks.freshdesk.com/register/(hash_here)
I am confused, because I already have a user account.
Or should I create one on https://ramaworks.freshdesk.com too?
The new adjusted stems (with the revised/smaller nubs), while better, are reportedly still problematic. I'm not sure how many people have issues vs how many do not, but the latest round of "fixed" stems are supposedly causing stress fractures in some keycaps, which over time could crack completely, or at the very least, cause the keycaps to not fit other stems correctly anymore. There was a decent amount of drama in various MD drop discussions that seems to have died down recently.
This is the discussion on GH I just finished reading through as well.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96323.300 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96323.300)
I saw those Aliaz switches the other day, they look neat! I'll have to check them out. Thank you!!
Something definitely to be wary of, I haven't personally had any issues on my end.
Definitely check the Aliaz out! There's something about them I really like ;D
---
ALSO! As we'll be shipping in a few weeks, could everyone please check that the shipping address they have used is correct? And, if you haven't included a phone number in your order, please reply to your order confirmation email with the one! DHL Express requires a phone number, so it would be best to include it! I didn't realise at the time that I had not made it compulsory at checkout :( But yes, please reply direct to order confirmation, both for adding a phone number and changing your address (this is important as it'll be added to our ticketing system!) If there's no need for any changes and everything is correct, no need to reply to the confirmation email. EDIT: You will have to log in and check on your account to see if the phone number is there or not on the order, it is not included in the order confirmation email, please check before sending a support email!
Past that, thank you all for your patience! We'll let everyone know the shipping schedules once we get the stock in so we can plan accordingly. At this stage, there's not too much to update on as we wait for the freight-shipment to come in, we'll spend some time clearing the warehouse and making space for the pallets for arrival. Everything else is ready to go on our end, with the PCB's all tested and programmed! We'll have to spend a day or so packing the internal weights/extra back weights once they arrive also.
Cheers!
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 18 October 2018, 01:07:17
Hi Rama,
I just replied to the confirmation mail, sent my phone number, but I got a reply email with the title "RAMA WORKS user activation"
url is: https://ramaworks.freshdesk.com/register/(hash_here (https://ramaworks.freshdesk.com/register/(hash_here))
I am confused, because I already have a user account.
Or should I create one on https://ramaworks.freshdesk.com (https://ramaworks.freshdesk.com) too?
Hey ! Definitely don't need to sign up for that one, that's just our support ticketing system, for some reason it automatically sends out invites. I should try and find a way to remove the need for signing up to that!
Post by: vewy_nice on Thu, 18 October 2018, 08:26:24
This is the first board I've ever bought that I've had a keyset sitting unopened waiting for it to get here (GMK Camping, going to look SO hot with the sage!)
I've been whittling down my cache of cheap 60%'s, right now I've only got an AEK64 and a nice KBDfans 5* build I can't seem to let myself sell, so I'm super pumped to get another 60% back in the rotation!
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 18 October 2018, 08:36:22
Phone number sent :o
This is the first board I've ever bought that I've had a keyset sitting unopened waiting for it to get here (GMK Camping, going to look SO hot with the sage!)
I've been whittling down my cache of cheap 60%'s, right now I've only got an AEK64 and a nice KBDfans 5* build I can't seem to let myself sell, so I'm super pumped to get another 60% back in the rotation!
Awesome, thanks!
GMK Camping is 100% going to look amazing with sage, you gotta send pics when those are together :D
I have a few lying around in my closet too :P Definitely hard to let go, I get it :))
Post by: _PixelNinja on Thu, 18 October 2018, 13:01:49
Can't wait to get the M60-A. Still can't make up my mind on what keyset to put on it though D:
Post by: ptiede on Thu, 18 October 2018, 14:49:40
Phone number sent :oNice choice! That's the exact same setup I'm going for :p
This is the first board I've ever bought that I've had a keyset sitting unopened waiting for it to get here (GMK Camping, going to look SO hot with the sage!)
I've been whittling down my cache of cheap 60%'s, right now I've only got an AEK64 and a nice KBDfans 5* build I can't seem to let myself sell, so I'm super pumped to get another 60% back in the rotation!
Post by: Starston3 on Thu, 18 October 2018, 16:53:07
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 18 October 2018, 18:25:02
Confirmed address and sent phone number!
Can't wait to get the M60-A. Still can't make up my mind on what keyset to put on it though D:
Awesome thanks! oh man, get thinking! :))
Shipping address and phone number have verified on the site. :thumb:Perfect, cheers :D
Post by: KingRama on Fri, 19 October 2018, 01:24:06
The container will be docking on the 1st of November according to Port Schedules (big boats are slow!), there will be some time (about a week) for it to be cleared through customs and freighted to our warehouse. From there we'll be packing every day to ensure that we can get them out as soon as possible. I'll keep everyone updated with further news as it happens :) For now, time to clear some racking space in the warehouse.. :))
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 19 October 2018, 01:53:54
Hey everyone!
The container will be docking on the 1st of November according to Port Schedules (big boats are slow!), there will be some time (about a week) for it to be cleared through customs and freighted to our warehouse. From there we'll be packing every day to ensure that we can get them out as soon as possible. I'll keep everyone updated with further news as it happens :) For now, time to clear some racking space in the warehouse.. :))
Damn, November is going to be a great month. The anticipation is killing me tho
Post by: KingRama on Fri, 19 October 2018, 04:26:12
Hey everyone!
The container will be docking on the 1st of November according to Port Schedules (big boats are slow!), there will be some time (about a week) for it to be cleared through customs and freighted to our warehouse. From there we'll be packing every day to ensure that we can get them out as soon as possible. I'll keep everyone updated with further news as it happens :) For now, time to clear some racking space in the warehouse.. :))
Damn, November is going to be a great month. The anticipation is killing me tho
Don't worry man! I totally know the feeling, killing us here too, we just want to see them out in the wild :p
Post by: up-in on Fri, 19 October 2018, 05:45:33
Hey everyone!
The container will be docking on the 1st of November according to Port Schedules (big boats are slow!), there will be some time (about a week) for it to be cleared through customs and freighted to our warehouse. From there we'll be packing every day to ensure that we can get them out as soon as possible. I'll keep everyone updated with further news as it happens :) For now, time to clear some racking space in the warehouse.. :))
will be a nice birthday present for me, though i pay for it lol
hope it'll be shipped without any problem.
Post by: KingRama on Fri, 19 October 2018, 07:10:54
will be a nice birthday present for me, though i pay for it lol
hope it'll be shipped without any problem.
It's good to reward yourself, happy birthday for when it arrives! :D
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sat, 20 October 2018, 04:12:41
Awesome thanks! oh man, get thinking! :))The pressure :-\
Post by: distracteddev on Sat, 20 October 2018, 22:05:37
Post by: packman86 on Sat, 20 October 2018, 22:13:25
Can anyone confirm what size spacebar is needed?
7u like most all other MX HHKB layouts.
Post by: Shenpai on Wed, 24 October 2018, 02:50:06
Post by: Idragonist on Wed, 24 October 2018, 03:27:25
WTS/WTT Dusk M60-A gb spot, trade wants are kits >60%, realized i cant live without arrow keysPM sent
Post by: fishinaspacesuit on Wed, 24 October 2018, 08:44:54
Can anyone confirm what size spacebar is needed?
7u like most all other MX HHKB layouts.
Here's a nice layout image for the M60-A, I believe it was posted by Rama earlier in this thread
(https://i.imgur.com/NtnH2cm.jpg)
Post by: Clix4Clax on Wed, 24 October 2018, 10:26:29
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 24 October 2018, 21:28:48
is it mid/late november yet? ???
Almost!! Anxiously waiting the container arrival, might go drive to the port and watch it come in again haha :P
Post by: chief_shankaho on Thu, 25 October 2018, 07:37:24
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 25 October 2018, 08:21:03
I'm sure I've missed this somewhere, but is the PCB QMK compatible? Is it shipped with a stock layout? If it is, what do the layers look like?
Yep, the PCB is QMK compatible - the code is already in QMK master! We are also working on a GUI based configurator that will let you change the keymap instantly without needing to build QMK or install new firmware.
This will work with the firmware already installed on the shipped PCBs :)
We're drawing the default layout (most will find the default perfect for their needs)
Post by: G1LL3Y on Thu, 25 October 2018, 08:23:12
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 25 October 2018, 08:33:44
This may sound stupid, but this will be my first board in the HHKB layout. So for Windows users how would you do the CTRL+ALT DELETE command on the default layout? Or would you need to configure that as a QMK command/sequence?
Not a stupid question at all! This is how to Ctrl-Alt-Delete on the default layout:
(https://i.imgur.com/NrBuLL9.png)
Post by: Zanduby on Fri, 26 October 2018, 20:43:54
Post by: liv05 on Sat, 27 October 2018, 09:18:35
Also willing to buy your spot if you just want to leave the gb!
Post by: ye_cole on Sat, 27 October 2018, 23:12:29
Post by: airlangga07 on Tue, 30 October 2018, 10:10:08
Post by: eyedrop on Tue, 30 October 2018, 10:56:02
Good luck finding your M60-A!
Anybody who are willing to sell their spot to me?
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Post by: airlangga07 on Tue, 30 October 2018, 12:31:01
Did you PM ye_cole, who just posted right above you?
Good luck finding your M60-A!Anybody who are willing to sell their spot to me?
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Yes I did! Thank you very much for the words! I missed the GB and fully regret not to join to this great board.
Post by: ExuDeCandomble on Tue, 30 October 2018, 15:26:38
Yes I did! Thank you very much for the words! I missed the GB and fully regret not to join to this great board.
If you can handle the wait, there will be another run of the M60-A in the near-ish future. Seems there will be different colors offered and a special offering as well.
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 30 October 2018, 16:20:33
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 31 October 2018, 06:38:35
nearish = when koyu ships ≈ June 2019 ± a few months.
Sooner then that!
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UPDATE:
The M60-A enclosures are landing tomorrow by sea-freight in Melbourne (1st of November)! The container will then be going through customs and then delivered to our warehouse once cleared. Once in our warehouse we will aim to ship out the M60-A keyboards as quickly as possible! https://rama.works/prototype/2018/10/31/m60-a-incoming-parvum-mightykillers (https://rama.works/prototype/2018/10/31/m60-a-incoming-parvum-mightykillers)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5bd98b03c2241b3e282c4e6e/1540983622647/20181031-RW-CONTAINER-TEASER-01.1486.jpg?format=1000w)
Post by: fishinaspacesuit on Wed, 31 October 2018, 06:44:51
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 31 October 2018, 06:47:54
It's happening? It's happening! IT'S HAPPENING!!!
YUP! Very very excited to see these out to everyone!! Will update once the container arrives to our warehouse, we need to make some space to fit all these :-X
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 31 October 2018, 08:17:39
Does Rama usually do a second round? Not sure I will have the funds to make this one but maybe in the future.
Potentially at some point, but won't be for a longgg while - and most likely not in the same colourways.
@Rama If less than year is considered as longgg time for between R1 and R2. That timeframe is even shorter than re-run of keycaps.
How nice of you to pull the rug from R1 buyers.
I am not in the stance of against new buyers but if you are going to make statements as such to make your keyboard seem exclusive and limited but then change it later, its kind of a bait and switch. At least thats how I see it. Had I known R2 was just going to be a year later, I might not have joined R1. Just saying.
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 31 October 2018, 08:37:08
Does Rama usually do a second round? Not sure I will have the funds to make this one but maybe in the future.
Potentially at some point, but won't be for a longgg while - and most likely not in the same colourways.
@Rama If less than year is considered as longgg time for between R1 and R2. That timeframe is even shorter than re-run of keycaps.
How nice of you to pull the rug from R1 buyers.
I am not in the stance of against new buyers but if you are going to make statements as such to make your keyboard seem exclusive and limited but then change it later, its kind of a bait and switch. At least thats how I see it. Had I known R2 was just going to be a year later, I might not have joined R1. Just saying.
A little confused by this, R2 will be delivering around the same time frame as R1 in a new edition - we are not rerunning the same keyboards we have already sold.
We've been committed with all our offerings to not rerun previous editions, which has been seen with our keycaps and M6 series
Post by: onefivenine on Wed, 31 October 2018, 09:23:09
YUP! Very very excited to see these out to everyone!! Will update once the container arrives to our warehouse, we need to make some space to fit all these :-X
Please, bribe customs with like an artisan cap.
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Wed, 31 October 2018, 09:53:09
Does Rama usually do a second round? Not sure I will have the funds to make this one but maybe in the future.
Potentially at some point, but won't be for a longgg while - and most likely not in the same colourways.
@Rama If less than year is considered as longgg time for between R1 and R2. That timeframe is even shorter than re-run of keycaps.
How nice of you to pull the rug from R1 buyers.
I am not in the stance of against new buyers but if you are going to make statements as such to make your keyboard seem exclusive and limited but then change it later, its kind of a bait and switch. At least thats how I see it. Had I known R2 was just going to be a year later, I might not have joined R1. Just saying.
What's up with your hostility? Rama busts his ass to make awesome designs that people want. Some people were not able to get in on the first buy (myself included - luckily I was able to purchase a spot). We aren't paying for exclusivity; we are paying for Rama's design, intellectual property, and hard work. If you want exclusivity, go commission someone to design something custom for you and miss out on this awesome keyboard. At least you will be spared the terrible experience of having the same keyboard as other people...
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 31 October 2018, 11:42:00
Post by: ExuDeCandomble on Wed, 31 October 2018, 12:30:43
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 31 October 2018, 12:49:03
I apologize for any hostility that came across as that was not the intent.
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 31 October 2018, 17:54:49
I am not angry against new buyers but, I guess, I had a different assumption for the definition for lonnng time before r2. That was just the point I was getting at.
I apologize for any hostility that came across as that was not the intent.
It's all good man! I'm excited to further expand on our offerings in new and exciting ways in the future, and am even more excited to see how each person who receives one of the boards to make it their own and to see how they integrate it in their own setups!
YUP! Very very excited to see these out to everyone!! Will update once the container arrives to our warehouse, we need to make some space to fit all these :-X
Please, bribe customs with like an artisan cap.
LOL should have the opening of the container with some sacrificial boards for the customs agents :p Eitherway, customs has all been paid for pre-arrival so should hopefully all go through pretty quickly! Will ask our freight forwarder for an ETA for delivery :)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 01 November 2018, 18:12:55
I am not angry against new buyers but, I guess, I had a different assumption for the definition for lonnng time before r2. That was just the point I was getting at.
I apologize for any hostility that came across as that was not the intent.
Regardless of hostility your argument was/is weird and entitled - Rama doesn't owe anyone exclusivity, some times plans change, maybe he had not planned to run a second round for another 2 to 3 years but decided to do so for whatever perfectly valid (or not) reason he may have had. Successful products are coveted, this isn't Supreme or Yeezy or something, if he wants others to have a new iteration (or just a regular rerun) of the board then that's entirely understandable.
I don't think I can actually express how much that sort of mentality bothers me, happens a lot too - people buy something and then somehow the faux sense of exclusivity and entitlement being taken away pisses them off and creates animosity toward the creator and a product they would otherwise love and be proud of, comments like "pulling the plug on buyers" start flying out. Buy stuff you wanna buy, when you can/want to buy it. If you couldn't or didn't wanna justify buying R1, or feel you may regret it later, that's on you.
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 01 November 2018, 22:13:21
COULD YOU ALL PLEASE CHECK YOUR LATEST CONFIRMATION EMAIL AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS! IF NOT PLEASE REPLY DIRECTLY TO THE EMAIL WITH WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE THE M60-A SHIPPED!
Thank you! :)
Post by: asury on Thu, 01 November 2018, 22:21:34
I know it's early but, thanks for all this update and superb communication Rama!
Hope it stay smooth like this until everyone gets their boards. :)
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 01 November 2018, 23:03:09
Yay! My body is ready, everything is ready. I have Holy skies switches and GMK Camping waiting for the Sage to go camp together :p :D
I know it's early but, thanks for all this update and superb communication Rama!
Hope it stay smooth like this until everyone gets their boards. :)
GMK Camping + Sage... that is perfection :o You gotta show us all when that comes in :D
And of course! Will continue to update all throughout the following weeks as we pack and ship everything. Will have a better understanding of timelines once the pallets arrive and divide the workload - but we're dedicated to ship these out as soon as possible. Thank you all for your patience, super excited for guys to get your hands on them!!
Post by: up-in on Fri, 02 November 2018, 02:09:13
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Fri, 02 November 2018, 06:51:12
The wait is almost over! Still have not decided whether to put Pulse or Laser into Lake 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
As much as I love SA, I think you gotta go Laser. I’m not sure about Pulse black going with the gold weight. Also, I think the blue of Laser will go better with lake than the blue of Pulse. These are all guesses, so I could totally be wrong.
Post by: nerium on Fri, 02 November 2018, 07:45:38
GMK Camping + Sage... that is perfection :o You gotta show us all when that comes in :D
And of course! Will continue to update all throughout the following weeks as we pack and ship everything. Will have a better understanding of timelines once the pallets arrive and divide the workload - but we're dedicated to ship these out as soon as possible. Thank you all for your patience, super excited for guys to get your hands on them!!
This GB is running so smoothly! I still haven't decided on switches, though :(
Post by: Clix4Clax on Fri, 02 November 2018, 08:20:29
GMK Camping + Sage... that is perfection :o You gotta show us all when that comes in :D
And of course! Will continue to update all throughout the following weeks as we pack and ship everything. Will have a better understanding of timelines once the pallets arrive and divide the workload - but we're dedicated to ship these out as soon as possible. Thank you all for your patience, super excited for guys to get your hands on them!!
This GB is running so smoothly! I still haven't decided on switches, though :(
Good thing its hot swap and you don't have to decide! :D
edit: right now, at least. :p
Post by: ExuDeCandomble on Fri, 02 November 2018, 09:06:45
This GB is running so smoothly! I still haven't decided on switches, though :(
I'm in the same boat! I was planning to use Royal Clears but since issues have been discovered with the retooled Box stems, I can't take the risk of damaging my nice caps... Might be using good ol' Zealios or perhaps Halo Clears if I can get my hands on some.
Post by: jjwax on Fri, 02 November 2018, 09:16:36
Post by: NolaSwag on Fri, 02 November 2018, 15:25:01
Post by: cdhoffmann on Sat, 03 November 2018, 10:37:22
Post by: Darknight00z on Sun, 04 November 2018, 11:18:25
Regardless of hostility your argument was/is weird and entitled - Rama doesn't owe anyone exclusivity, some times plans change, maybe he had not planned to run a second round for another 2 to 3 years but decided to do so for whatever perfectly valid (or not) reason he may have had. Successful products are coveted, this isn't Supreme or Yeezy or something, if he wants others to have a new iteration (or just a regular rerun) of the board then that's entirely understandable.
I don't think I can actually express how much that sort of mentality bothers me, happens a lot too - people buy something and then somehow the faux sense of exclusivity and entitlement being taken away pisses them off and creates animosity toward the creator and a product they would otherwise love and be proud of, comments like "pulling the plug on buyers" start flying out. Buy stuff you wanna buy, when you can/want to buy it. If you couldn't or didn't wanna justify buying R1, or feel you may regret it later, that's on you.
Would you mind explaining how was this being entitled? I don't think I was.
Rama said R2 wouldn't be for long time. I factored that into my purchasing decision thinking it will be 2-3 years before the next round. So not wanting to wait that long I purchased.
The availability of an item can be a factor in my purchasing decision just like price, design, color etc... You may not agree with me, thats fine, but its factor of mine.
Now that I know Rama recycles his design so soon, Koyu R2 MIGHT happen in a year's time, I am less inclined to purchase it as there are other things I could buy and purchase Koyu next year.
I am happy to continue this discussion in pm, since we are getting off track form the thread.
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Mon, 05 November 2018, 08:15:42
Post by: Clix4Clax on Mon, 05 November 2018, 12:09:40
SA Godspeed
SA Oblivion alphas ( to pair with godspeed mods)
SA Pulse
GMK Laser & Waves
SA VOC (late 2019)
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Mon, 05 November 2018, 13:03:16
Picked up Moon , I have:
SA Godspeed
SA Oblivion alphas ( to pair with godspeed mods)
SA Pulse
GMK Laser & Waves
SA VOC (late 2019)
Nice! I got Mist to go with Godspeed Mods and Space Cadet Alphas, but I can’t decide if I’m just going to stick with normal Godspeed alphas. I like both options so much. The grey of the space cadet/oblivion seems less toyish.
Post by: G1LL3Y on Mon, 05 November 2018, 13:10:56
Post by: heycheeeno on Mon, 05 November 2018, 23:29:15
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 05 November 2018, 23:30:27
Just got my shipping confirmation!
Woah already? Nice dude
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Tue, 06 November 2018, 00:12:46
Just got my shipping confirmation!
But Rama hasn't posted update yet.
Post by: Lisinge on Tue, 06 November 2018, 00:23:14
Just got my shipping confirmation!
But Rama hasn't posted update yet.
He started shipping to australia first. He will probably post a update sooner or later but i imagine they are all pretty busy packing the orders :D
Post by: Krakyn on Tue, 06 November 2018, 00:53:18
In any case, I live in the same state as Rama but haven't received a shipping notification. No rush :)
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 06 November 2018, 01:07:40
Currently packing all Australian orders, they'll all be out tomorrow! Will be at the warehouse late tonight. Will post an update when I'm back at a computer.
Cheers!
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 06 November 2018, 07:56:16
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be195fc03ce64d76eb9c3b2/1541511563019/?format=1000w)
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Warehouse is absolutely packed now and will take some time to go through, I'll be getting some extra hands on to fold some boxes to speed up the process. Will keep you updated with the next round of shipments, be on the lookout for your shipping notifications!
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be19558898583afee342c02/1541510561773/2CB1AD85-8F7B-4A5F-B72A-83922B54025A.jpg?format=1000w)
Further updates here: https://rama.works/prototype/2018/11/7/m60-a-shipping-koyu-m6-b (https://rama.works/prototype/2018/11/7/m60-a-shipping-koyu-m6-b)
Post by: packman86 on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:10:22
Alright! All Australian orders have been packed and are being picked up tomorrow!Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be195fc03ce64d76eb9c3b2/1541511563019/?format=1000w)
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Warehouse is absolutely packed now and will take some time to go through, I'll be getting some extra hands on to fold some boxes to speed up the process. Will keep you updated with the next round of shipments, be on the lookout for your shipping notifications!Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be19558898583afee342c02/1541510561773/2CB1AD85-8F7B-4A5F-B72A-83922B54025A.jpg?format=1000w)
Further updates here: https://rama.works/prototype/2018/11/7/m60-a-shipping-koyu-m6-b (https://rama.works/prototype/2018/11/7/m60-a-shipping-koyu-m6-b)
This is really exciting! Thanks for all the hard work, RAMA!
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:13:20
This is really exciting! Thanks for all the hard work, RAMA!
Yeah! Just keen to finally see them out, can't wait for the logistics to be over and get back to design :D And cheers man! Wouldn't be able to do it without Kate too, she and I were at the warehouse all day packing :D
Post by: ExuDeCandomble on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:48:56
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Tue, 06 November 2018, 08:57:43
Post by: voight-kampff on Tue, 06 November 2018, 09:01:20
is there a timeframe for shipping to the EU?
thanks
This is really exciting! Thanks for all the hard work, RAMA!
Yeah! Just keen to finally see them out, can't wait for the logistics to be over and get back to design :D And cheers man! Wouldn't be able to do it without Kate too, she and I were at the warehouse all day packing :D
Post by: DePulse on Tue, 06 November 2018, 09:17:30
Post by: ttot on Tue, 06 November 2018, 10:52:05
Post by: eyedrop on Tue, 06 November 2018, 11:19:04
I called it...you need to design your next board and name it after Kate.
There is TGR Jane and Alice, but you have RAMA Kate.
This is really exciting! Thanks for all the hard work, RAMA!
Yeah! Just keen to finally see them out, can't wait for the logistics to be over and get back to design :D And cheers man! Wouldn't be able to do it without Kate too, she and I were at the warehouse all day packing :D
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Post by: krispy on Tue, 06 November 2018, 16:18:39
KingRama putting on a clinic for how to conduct a group buy. So stoked in anticipation for my shipping notification!^THIS.
Thanks Rama!, Kate!, and everyone else involved in this smooth GB!
Post by: cdhoffmann on Tue, 06 November 2018, 18:27:48
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 06 November 2018, 18:40:43
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:16:02
cool
is there a timeframe for shipping to the EU?
thanks
I think EU will be soon! Planning out which to get done this upcoming weekend. In the meantime have hired someone to pack all the internal weights to prepare for the shipments, should make it quicker with things pre-packed ready to go.
Hopefully we can get a view of the LAKE. But nice work done!
LAKE photo? Please. :)Had some spare time to swipe a LAKE from the pallet, this one's mine now!! :p
Here you guys go! Sorry for the wait, just wanted to get the first batch out as quickly as possible, I have to think of which set to pair with this now - something black I think :eek:
(https://i.imgur.com/1ZuhkvX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/v2LaPH2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hW6GeoQ.jpg)
More images here: https://imgur.com/a/bq65G7R
Thanks guys!! Really appreciate it, we both appreciate the kind words! A lot of other people have helped too, we had Wilba and a few friends help pack PCB's a few weeks ago :) Would be an absolute struggle without the support of everyone here and also the helping hands. Cheers!KingRama putting on a clinic for how to conduct a group buy. So stoked in anticipation for my shipping notification!^THIS.
Thanks Rama!, Kate!, and everyone else involved in this smooth GB!
Thanks for the dedication, Rama.
I called it...you need to design your next board and name it after Kate.
There is TGR Jane and Alice, but you have RAMA Kate.
Stay tuned! :)) :-X
Post by: vonswoopington on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:19:03
Wow lake looks niiiice. Super classy.cool
is there a timeframe for shipping to the EU?
thanks
I think EU will be soon! Planning out which to get done this upcoming weekend. In the meantime have hired someone to pack all the internal weights to prepare for the shipments, should make it quicker with things pre-packed ready to go.Hopefully we can get a view of the LAKE. But nice work done!LAKE photo? Please. :)Had some spare time to swipe a LAKE from the pallet, this one's mine now!!
Here you guys go! Sorry for the wait, just wanted to get the first batch out as quickly as possible, I have to think of which set to pair with this now - something black I think :eek:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1ZuhkvX.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/v2LaPH2.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hW6GeoQ.jpg)
More images here: https://imgur.com/a/bq65G7RThanks guys!! Really appreciate it, we both appreciate the kind words! A lot of other people have helped too, we had Wilba and a few friends help pack PCB's a few weeks ago :) Would be an absolute struggle without the support of everyone here and also the helping hands. Cheers!KingRama putting on a clinic for how to conduct a group buy. So stoked in anticipation for my shipping notification!^THIS.
Thanks Rama!, Kate!, and everyone else involved in this smooth GB!Thanks for the dedication, Rama.
I called it...you need to design your next board and name it after Kate.
There is TGR Jane and Alice, but you have RAMA Kate.
Stay tuned! :)) :-X
Post by: ReverbSlush on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:22:03
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:22:49
Had some spare time to swipe a LAKE from the pallet, this one's mine now!! :p
Here you guys go! Sorry for the wait, just wanted to get the first batch out as quickly as possible, I have to think of which set to pair with this now - something black I think :eek:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1ZuhkvX.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/v2LaPH2.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hW6GeoQ.jpg)
More images here: https://imgur.com/a/bq65G7RThanks guys!! Really appreciate it, we both appreciate the kind words! A lot of other people have helped too, we had Wilba and a few friends help pack PCB's a few weeks ago :) Would be an absolute struggle without the support of everyone here and also the helping hands. Cheers!KingRama putting on a clinic for how to conduct a group buy. So stoked in anticipation for my shipping notification!^THIS.
Thanks Rama!, Kate!, and everyone else involved in this smooth GB!Thanks for the dedication, Rama.
I called it...you need to design your next board and name it after Kate.
There is TGR Jane and Alice, but you have RAMA Kate.
Stay tuned! :)) :-X
Obviously photoshopped - a keyboard can't be this damned pretty. :-*
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:27:24
Oh my that lake color is ridiculously gorgeous! It’s making me rethink what keycaps I’m going to put on this board. :-*cool
is there a timeframe for shipping to the EU?
thanks
I think EU will be soon! Planning out which to get done this upcoming weekend. In the meantime have hired someone to pack all the internal weights to prepare for the shipments, should make it quicker with things pre-packed ready to go.Hopefully we can get a view of the LAKE. But nice work done!LAKE photo? Please. :)Had some spare time to swipe a LAKE from the pallet, this one's mine now!! :p
Here you guys go! Sorry for the wait, just wanted to get the first batch out as quickly as possible, I have to think of which set to pair with this now - something black I think :eek:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1ZuhkvX.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/v2LaPH2.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hW6GeoQ.jpg)
More images here: https://imgur.com/a/bq65G7RThanks guys!! Really appreciate it, we both appreciate the kind words! A lot of other people have helped too, we had Wilba and a few friends help pack PCB's a few weeks ago :) Would be an absolute struggle without the support of everyone here and also the helping hands. Cheers!KingRama putting on a clinic for how to conduct a group buy. So stoked in anticipation for my shipping notification!^THIS.
Thanks Rama!, Kate!, and everyone else involved in this smooth GB!Thanks for the dedication, Rama.
I called it...you need to design your next board and name it after Kate.
There is TGR Jane and Alice, but you have RAMA Kate.
Stay tuned! :)) :-X
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:28:48
I don't know how I got talked into Moon... my heart was telling me lake or sage and I should have listened! wow! I won't mess it up next time.
MOON looks great too.
Post by: distracteddev on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:35:39
So excited but also a little sad I couldn’t find a sage/lake/rose spot to takeover.
I guess Kuro will suffice until R2!
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:43:29
(https://i.imgur.com/4WqzhLT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z3fuf01.jpg)
ALSO! You will have to fully screw down each of the back weight screws as when received they are not completely tightened - double check! We will have the assembly documentation out this week :)
Post by: fishinaspacesuit on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:45:26
I got myself a Kuro, gonna put Red Samurai with some Brocaps hellfire on it to spice it up, can't wait!
Post by: Sneaky Potato on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:48:02
I'll get some photos later of the other boards, just a quick snap of the KURO:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4WqzhLT.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z3fuf01.jpg)
ALSO! You will have to fully screw down each of the back weight screws as when received they are not completely tightened - double check! We will have the assembly documentation out this week :)
I’m going to need a cold shower now
Post by: asury on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:48:37
I'll get some photos later of the other boards, just a quick snap of the KURO:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4WqzhLT.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z3fuf01.jpg)
ALSO! You will have to fully screw down each of the back weight screws as when received they are not completely tightened - double check! We will have the assembly documentation out this week :)
Wow! Kuro turns out very nice, will definitely looks stunning when combine with GMK Miami Nights for sure!
Post by: distracteddev on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:51:24
Looking forward to the black/gold back weight combo with either GMK Red Sam or perhaps something simpler like GMK monochrome or Metaverse.
Post by: Allo on Tue, 06 November 2018, 20:58:26
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Tue, 06 November 2018, 21:36:38
Edit - I’ll bump it to $150
Scratch that - $200
Post by: Mekuno on Tue, 06 November 2018, 21:45:58
Post by: packman86 on Tue, 06 November 2018, 22:53:23
Post by: ttot on Tue, 06 November 2018, 23:30:00
Post by: Krakyn on Tue, 06 November 2018, 23:30:43
Also, apologies for the mediocre image quality. Everything looks so much better in person.
(https://i.imgur.com/0akuXOL.jpg)
First one! Inside the box is the chassis + PCB + feet, in addition to a RAMA USB cable and cloth. I opted not to purchase the extra weight, and I'm glad I made that decision... I was honestly so surprised how heavy the keyboard is (despite knowing the advertised weight) - it really does scream quality.
(https://i.imgur.com/cLmwvHA.jpg)
I think I'll end up displaying this box on a shelf above my desk. It's pretty cool.
(https://i.imgur.com/r7sRFWW.jpg)
The board looks incredible even unbuilt. In this picture it's sitting on a table with a standard black finish, to give you an idea of how Moon looks vs Kuro.
(https://imgur.com/CxUPnlA.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/hu6EspR.jpg)
The backplate produces some pretty reflections. This is just the standard moon backplate.
(https://i.imgur.com/mL0vaVN.jpg)
Finally, "you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about". My first (and only) mechanical keyboard - a Pok3r with Cherry Browns an aftermarket case. Clearly I decided to get serious and skip the mid-tier purgatory and go straight to "endgame". I think the M60-A will last me a long long time :) Will try and sell my Pok3r shortly.
As I mentioned earlier I'm aiming to build my M60-A this weekend when I have heaps of spare time. I have MOD-M switches + EPBT BoW ready to go, but I've also ordered Modern Dolch which I'll probably end up using in the future. I hope this post gets other soon-to-be owners excited for theirs to arrive! Cheers.
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 06 November 2018, 23:43:13
My Moon M60-A (the first one?) has arrived! :) I've posted some pictures of the keyboard below, but just a heads up that I don't have any pictures of it assembled (sorry!) I have my last exam in 2 days and would rather spend my time studying for it than spending a few hours lubing switches :) I'm looking forward to assembling my M60-A this weekend. I'll post here and on reddit once it's done!
Also, apologies for the mediocre image quality. Everything looks so much better in person.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0akuXOL.jpg)
First one! Inside the box is the chassis + PCB + feet, in addition to a RAMA USB cable and cloth. I opted not to purchase the extra weight, and I'm glad I made that decision... I was honestly so surprised how heavy the keyboard is (despite knowing the advertised weight) - it really does scream quality.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cLmwvHA.jpg)
I think I'll end up displaying this box on a shelf above my desk. It's pretty cool.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/r7sRFWW.jpg)
The board looks incredible even unbuilt. In this picture it's sitting on a table with a standard black finish, to give you an idea of how Moon looks vs Kuro.Show Image(https://imgur.com/CxUPnlA.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hu6EspR.jpg)
The backplate produces some pretty reflections. This is just the standard moon backplate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mL0vaVN.jpg)
Finally, "you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about". My first (and only) mechanical keyboard - a Pok3r with Cherry Browns an aftermarket case. Clearly I decided to get serious and skip the mid-tier purgatory and go straight to "endgame". I think the M60-A will last me a long long time :) Will try and sell my Pok3r shortly.
As I mentioned earlier I'm aiming to build my M60-A this weekend when I have heaps of spare time. I have MOD-M switches + EPBT BoW ready to go, but I've also ordered Modern Dolch which I'll probably end up using in the future. I hope this post gets other soon-to-be owners excited for theirs to arrive! Cheers.
WOW!!!! Love the photos mate, these are amazing, also your house overall just looks super aesthetic :p Thanks for posting! And you definitely must be one of the first to receive it
Can't wait to see it together with the caps and everything :o :o Will have the assembly instructions done soon also ;D
ALSO, good luck with the exams, can gift yourself with a assembled M60 by the end of it :))
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Tue, 06 November 2018, 23:46:10
My Moon M60-A (the first one?) has arrived! :) I've posted some pictures of the keyboard below, but just a heads up that I don't have any pictures of it assembled (sorry!) I have my last exam in 2 days and would rather spend my time studying for it than spending a few hours lubing switches :) I'm looking forward to assembling my M60-A this weekend. I'll post here and on reddit once it's done!
Also, apologies for the mediocre image quality. Everything looks so much better in person.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0akuXOL.jpg)
First one! Inside the box is the chassis + PCB + feet, in addition to a RAMA USB cable and cloth. I opted not to purchase the extra weight, and I'm glad I made that decision... I was honestly so surprised how heavy the keyboard is (despite knowing the advertised weight) - it really does scream quality.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cLmwvHA.jpg)
I think I'll end up displaying this box on a shelf above my desk. It's pretty cool.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/r7sRFWW.jpg)
The board looks incredible even unbuilt. In this picture it's sitting on a table with a standard black finish, to give you an idea of how Moon looks vs Kuro.Show Image(https://imgur.com/CxUPnlA.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/hu6EspR.jpg)
The backplate produces some pretty reflections. This is just the standard moon backplate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mL0vaVN.jpg)
Finally, "you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about". My first (and only) mechanical keyboard - a Pok3r with Cherry Browns an aftermarket case. Clearly I decided to get serious and skip the mid-tier purgatory and go straight to "endgame". I think the M60-A will last me a long long time :) Will try and sell my Pok3r shortly.
As I mentioned earlier I'm aiming to build my M60-A this weekend when I have heaps of spare time. I have MOD-M switches + EPBT BoW ready to go, but I've also ordered Modern Dolch which I'll probably end up using in the future. I hope this post gets other soon-to-be owners excited for theirs to arrive! Cheers.
WOW, MOON looks so decent.
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 07 November 2018, 01:48:10
Post by: _PixelNinja on Wed, 07 November 2018, 02:32:39
Thanks for the dedication, Rama.
I called it...you need to design your next board and name it after Kate.
There is TGR Jane and Alice, but you have RAMA Kate.
Stay tuned! :)) :-X
* cough * Ever considered designing a gasket mount keyboard? * cough *
Post by: airlangga07 on Wed, 07 November 2018, 05:25:38
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Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 07 November 2018, 08:43:51
Post by: ExuDeCandomble on Wed, 07 November 2018, 09:00:56
Post by: vewy_nice on Wed, 07 November 2018, 10:44:45
I'm going to GMK Camping route that I think a lot of people will be taking.
That render just blew my socks off, and I HAD to have it.
I don't have any other green boards, either, so it's always good to expand your color pallet ;)
Post by: Mekuno on Wed, 07 November 2018, 10:49:08
I'm still excited to get my sage!
I'm going to GMK Camping route that I think a lot of people will be taking.
That render just blew my socks off, and I HAD to have it.
I don't have any other green boards, either, so it's always good to expand your color pallet ;)
I agree! I am going to get Sage Koyu which will be my first green board ;)
Post by: funkybeat7 on Wed, 07 November 2018, 10:52:22
Post by: Cas on Wed, 07 November 2018, 11:09:27
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 07 November 2018, 11:59:25
Thanks for the dedication, Rama.
I called it...you need to design your next board and name it after Kate.
There is TGR Jane and Alice, but you have RAMA Kate.Stay tuned! :)) :-X
* cough * Ever considered designing a gasket mount keyboard? * cough *
the new trend for 2019
Post by: barrel on Wed, 07 November 2018, 12:02:55
Post by: jjwax on Thu, 08 November 2018, 08:36:29
this is the hardest part about the wait - when other people are getting theirs and you're still waiting :eek:
Gonna be worth every second though!
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 08 November 2018, 08:58:03
Go check it out here: http://rama.care (http://rama.care)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be448aa8a922dc40a0f3d30/1541687482929/RW-M60-A-PCB-TROUBLESHOOT-01.1501.png?format=1500w)
There are images of the default layout that comes with the board through the link, but for ease here it is too:
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be4322c0e2e72806da5aaa1/1541681717624/RW-M60-LAYOUT-01_M60-A+Layer+0.png?format=1500w)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be437b06d2a738f1e25d025/1541683130567/RW-M60-LAYOUT-01_M60-A+Layer+1.png?format=1500w)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be437c04ae2371260215a91/1541683146599/RW-M60-LAYOUT-01_M60-A+Layer+3.png?format=1500w)
Layer 3 is the fun one with the controls for adjusting the backlight colour, brightness, effect and effect speed!
Post by: chief_shankaho on Thu, 08 November 2018, 08:59:29
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 08 November 2018, 10:27:41
Post by: Clix4Clax on Thu, 08 November 2018, 11:33:30
Hey guys! We've been writing up some guides, we'll be adding more as we move forward! The assembly documentation should be done tomorrow or so
Go check it out here: http://rama.care (http://rama.care)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be448aa8a922dc40a0f3d30/1541687482929/RW-M60-A-PCB-TROUBLESHOOT-01.1501.png?format=1500w)
There are images of the default layout that comes with the board through the link, but for ease here it is too:Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be4322c0e2e72806da5aaa1/1541681717624/RW-M60-LAYOUT-01_M60-A+Layer+0.png?format=1500w)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be437b06d2a738f1e25d025/1541683130567/RW-M60-LAYOUT-01_M60-A+Layer+1.png?format=1500w)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be437c04ae2371260215a91/1541683146599/RW-M60-LAYOUT-01_M60-A+Layer+3.png?format=1500w)
Layer 3 is the fun one with the controls for adjusting the backlight colour, brightness, effect and effect speed!
Im still a little confused how the RGB works ... Is "color 1 " referring to the alphas and "color 2" the mods? How would someone set per key colors? Or is it effects on all keys? I tried watching the video with the demo but couldn't really hone down where the key colors are individually set.
Post by: chief_shankaho on Thu, 08 November 2018, 12:19:18
Here you guys go! Sorry for the wait, just wanted to get the first batch out as quickly as possible, I have to think of which set to pair with this now - something black I think :eek:
I wonder about Skidata+ with the color pack but it's so hard to find. Something with light blue, brown and orange. I'm thinking of Leandren's signature, though this photo is heavily edited I think:
(https://i.imgur.com/j4Slb9c.jpg)
I've got Laser waiting for mine, but I'm not sure how the purple will look. Definitely going to find a set to match the board rather than a board to match Laser cause ugh. I can't get over how good that LAKE looks.
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 08 November 2018, 18:00:02
Im still a little confused how the RGB works ... Is "color 1 " referring to the alphas and "color 2" the mods? How would someone set per key colors? Or is it effects on all keys? I tried watching the video with the demo but couldn't really hone down where the key colors are individually set.
The GUI configurator will make it more obvious what is possible... until then... each effect can use Color 1 and/or Color 2. So one effect is using Color 1 for alphas, Color 2 for mods. Another is doing a vertical gradient between Color 1 and Color 2. Some ignore Color 1 and Color 2 and are "rainbow" effects. All effects are on all keys, and there is no per-key color setting - this is design choice that I've carried through from Zeal60/Zeal65. I never intended it to be on par with a "gamer keyboard", just make the LEDs glow in between keys in colors that match the keyboard case/keycaps.
Post by: Clix4Clax on Thu, 08 November 2018, 18:56:28
Post by: ullr on Thu, 08 November 2018, 19:06:31
Post by: jazzjarred on Thu, 08 November 2018, 19:44:59
Post by: Rogue_Jellybean on Thu, 08 November 2018, 19:49:42
I never understood why my buddy regularly buys two keyboards in different colors but I'm looking at the Lake colors and starting to wonder about that R2...
I doubt that Lake would be in Run 2 if it happened, seeing as the Rama M6-B had different colours than the M6-A :(
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 08 November 2018, 21:04:01
Thanks for the reply! As long as I can do alphas one color and mods another - that's all I care about :D
Yep! You can do that directly through the board and then more accurately through the configurator (in real-time!)
(https://i.imgur.com/XIqKBdO.png)
Looking forward to that configurator, I'm crippled without my custom layers!
Configurator will be up shortly :)
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 08 November 2018, 21:20:04
(https://i.imgur.com/QZi0RLx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5uYZkit.jpg)
More: https://imgur.com/a/pvxFrXh (https://imgur.com/a/pvxFrXh)
Post by: Clix4Clax on Thu, 08 November 2018, 21:48:54
Thanks for the reply! As long as I can do alphas one color and mods another - that's all I care about :D
Yep! You can do that directly through the board and then more accurately through the configurator (in real-time!)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/XIqKBdO.png)Looking forward to that configurator, I'm crippled without my custom layers!
Configurator will be up shortly :)
Wowee now THAT is schnazzy.
Post by: distracteddev on Thu, 08 November 2018, 23:32:45
Post by: Jakyrian on Fri, 09 November 2018, 00:21:21
Post by: distracteddev on Fri, 09 November 2018, 00:22:38
Post by: xondat on Fri, 09 November 2018, 00:23:46
Post by: Wilba on Fri, 09 November 2018, 00:41:44
Anyone know what alloy was used for this? I can't find the information anywhere.
Pretty sure it's aluminium alloy.
Post by: cdhoffmann on Fri, 09 November 2018, 01:54:54
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Fri, 09 November 2018, 02:42:04
Anyone know what alloy was used for this? I can't find the information anywhere.
The question was asked and answered earlier in this thread. I saw it a few days ago but too lazy to find it.
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Fri, 09 November 2018, 02:52:40
can i get some hype in the chat
A L L M E T A L
Paid customs today, so hopefully will arrive this week still :DHey Rama, are there any extra internal weights being produced? Any way of getting my hands on one for my order?another question, I would like to purchase a second PCB, any chance?
Yep! Just reply to your order email :)Does anyone know which kind of aluminium alloy the M60-A is made from?
Sent from my MIX using Tapatalk
probably 6061/6063
6063, correct!
Anyone know what alloy was used for this? I can't find the information anywhere.
See above for alloy.
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Fri, 09 November 2018, 02:57:05
Post by: up-in on Fri, 09 November 2018, 03:14:33
Hey guys! We've been writing up some guides, we'll be adding more as we move forward! The assembly documentation should be done tomorrow or so
Go check it out here: http://rama.care (http://rama.care)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be448aa8a922dc40a0f3d30/1541687482929/RW-M60-A-PCB-TROUBLESHOOT-01.1501.png?format=1500w)
There are images of the default layout that comes with the board through the link, but for ease here it is too:Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be4322c0e2e72806da5aaa1/1541681717624/RW-M60-LAYOUT-01_M60-A+Layer+0.png?format=1500w)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be437b06d2a738f1e25d025/1541683130567/RW-M60-LAYOUT-01_M60-A+Layer+1.png?format=1500w)Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5be437c04ae2371260215a91/1541683146599/RW-M60-LAYOUT-01_M60-A+Layer+3.png?format=1500w)
Layer 3 is the fun one with the controls for adjusting the backlight colour, brightness, effect and effect speed!
First time using this layout, need to print this out.
Post by: xondat on Fri, 09 November 2018, 04:28:48
6063, correct!Anyone know what alloy was used for this? I can't find the information anywhere.
See above for alloy.
Thanks mate.
Post by: KingRama on Sat, 10 November 2018, 07:30:04
(https://i.imgur.com/edM54BZ.jpg)
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Sat, 10 November 2018, 09:20:04
2nd batch out, being picked up Monday. Back to the warehouse early tomorrow to pack the next!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/edM54BZ.jpg)
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Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 10 November 2018, 10:05:47
Where are these beauties going?2nd batch out, being picked up Monday. Back to the warehouse early tomorrow to pack the next!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/edM54BZ.jpg)
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UK tracking received!
Post by: pnkpanther65 on Sat, 10 November 2018, 10:28:25
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Post by: Lisinge on Sat, 10 November 2018, 12:07:02
Post by: Lisinge on Sat, 10 November 2018, 14:04:39
Post by: xondat on Sat, 10 November 2018, 14:14:33
Some gb runners should takes notes how to run a gb. One that has a lot to learn was actually in here recently...
Step 1: find god factory :))
Post by: Mekuno on Sat, 10 November 2018, 14:30:32
Rama has a good future
Post by: siggerzz on Sat, 10 November 2018, 16:40:33
Man, Rama just seems to outclass/set the bar in terms of group buys and just general communication. Always appreciate the efforts that are being taken here by him and his team.
Rama has a good future
Yep, I've never done a GB before, mostly due to the fact a lot I've seen a done via Google docs and similar mediums, and generally feel a bit skeptical. As a first-timer, Rama really couldn't have done a better job at making the process smooth af, and the updates are massively appreciated. Rama, Kate and Wilba really go above and beyond, and I'm sure the finished product will too.
You can expect many more orders from me in the future! I just wish I could jump of the Koyu GB ;)
My 2 years of wanting a RAMA board is almost over, and it can't come sooner! :thumb:
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Sat, 10 November 2018, 16:54:36
Post by: Allo on Sat, 10 November 2018, 17:32:16
Any Mist owners lucky enough to have received theirs yet? I’m dying to see pictures of it!
Saw some on Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9v3i8v/rama_m60
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Sat, 10 November 2018, 17:37:26
Any Mist owners lucky enough to have received theirs yet? I’m dying to see pictures of it!
Saw some on Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9v3i8v/rama_m60
Thanks!
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 10 November 2018, 18:34:44
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 11 November 2018, 01:31:30
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 11 November 2018, 06:52:22
More for pickup by DHL tomorrow! Will be going into the warehouse tomorrow morning to pack some more orders for another full day. I think we're about 1/3 through at this stage.
Thanks for Wilba with the help today we had twice the throughput as normal :p
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Here's a post on Reddit of Super_Solid_Snake's MOON board: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9w0hmb/moon_m60a_with_maxkey_wob/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9w0hmb/moon_m60a_with_maxkey_wob/) (album in the comments)
Looking forward to seeing more pop up in the wild! :o
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ALSO, there have been quite a few orders with phone numbers missing, we send out an email to these orders as we see them - please check your spam folders! They're packed and ready to go, but we cannot generate a shipping label until we have a phone number :-X
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And thanks so much everyone for the kind words, wouldn't be possible with everyone's support! We really enjoy being hands on with all parts of the process to make sure we can deliver the best product we can <3
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 11 November 2018, 07:26:00
(https://i.imgur.com/ti6ueAV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Xc0u5h2.jpg)
Post by: airlangga07 on Sun, 11 November 2018, 07:29:19
Super jelly for not being in the group buy! Still waiting for the extras if there is any available!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/XBxw8o9.jpg)
More for pickup by DHL tomorrow! Will be going into the warehouse tomorrow morning to pack some more orders for another full day. I think we're about 1/3 through at this stage.
Thanks for Wilba with the help today we had twice the throughput as normal :p
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Here's a post on Reddit of Super_Solid_Snake's MOON board: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9w0hmb/moon_m60a_with_maxkey_wob/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9w0hmb/moon_m60a_with_maxkey_wob/) (album in the comments)
Looking forward to seeing more pop up in the wild! :o
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ALSO, there have been quite a few orders with phone numbers missing, we send out an email to these orders as we see them - please check your spam folders! They're packed and ready to go, but we cannot generate a shipping label until we have a phone number :-X
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And thanks so much everyone for the kind words, wouldn't be possible with everyone's support! We really enjoy being hands on with all parts of the process to make sure we can deliver the best product we can <3
Post by: bdkrzy on Sun, 11 November 2018, 07:42:06
Super jelly for not being in the group buy! Still waiting for the extras if there is any available!
Get on Koyu before it's too late :p. I like Koyu's layout a bit more.
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 11 November 2018, 12:05:28
Pics from the Empire of Dirt... #nofilter #nomakeup (my Nautilus was in use and filthy, but had to see how it looked...)Every photo of Lake looks absolutely perfect! Cant wait to receive my tracking number!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ti6ueAV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Xc0u5h2.jpg)
Post by: Clix4Clax on Sun, 11 November 2018, 19:43:24
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 11 November 2018, 21:47:03
Eastern US delivery expected Wednesday!!!
The awesome guys at DHL picked them up today !
(https://i.imgur.com/ohML5dP.jpg)
Another batch being picked up tomorrow :)
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 11 November 2018, 21:54:33
(https://i.imgur.com/zHGxFWd.jpg)
Post by: Solotov on Sun, 11 November 2018, 21:58:32
New daily driver...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zHGxFWd.jpg)
Freaking gorgeous...
Post by: andino on Mon, 12 November 2018, 00:59:08
Post by: blitzmaster on Mon, 12 November 2018, 02:03:02
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 12 November 2018, 04:43:12
Woo I got a shipping notice. Still awaiting pickup though! Can't wait for these to come in :p
Next pickup is scheduled for tomorrow morning! So excited for you to get it!
My Dusk with GMK Red Samurai + X&O's. Novelias on atm, looks and feels amazing. Could not be happier with this board.YESSSSSS, this is what I've been waiting for. That looks awesome, thanks for posting!!! Excited to see more combos :o
Post by: Cas on Mon, 12 November 2018, 06:13:39
Post by: mrpetrov on Mon, 12 November 2018, 10:39:53
Woo I got a shipping notice. Still awaiting pickup though! Can't wait for these to come in :p
Next pickup is scheduled for tomorrow morning! So excited for you to get it!My Dusk with GMK Red Samurai + X&O's. Novelias on atm, looks and feels amazing. Could not be happier with this board.
Looks so awesome. What switches are powering that beast?
YESSSSSS, this is what I've been waiting for. That looks awesome, thanks for posting!!! Excited to see more combos :o
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Mon, 12 November 2018, 13:00:58
Woo I got a shipping notice. Still awaiting pickup though! Can't wait for these to come in :p
Next pickup is scheduled for tomorrow morning! So excited for you to get it!My Dusk with GMK Red Samurai + X&O's. Novelias on atm, looks and feels amazing. Could not be happier with this board.
Looks so awesome. What switches are powering that beast?
YESSSSSS, this is what I've been waiting for. That looks awesome, thanks for posting!!! Excited to see more combos :o
Switches are Novelias
Post by: Krakyn on Mon, 12 November 2018, 17:53:01
Also posted pictures on reddit but didn't get much traction :( Subreddit is more interested in memes unfortunately :p
(https://i.imgur.com/IFyMjlx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mYjIyK0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xNgEOlR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IOMoj23.jpg)
- Moon M60-A, no internal weight
- Mod-M switches
- GMK stabilisers
- EnjoyPBT Black on White
After building it, I had a bit of trouble with keypresses not registering, but I followed the support section on RAMA's website and found it was due to the PCB bowing out slightly. Easily fixed by following instructions.
Really glad I joined this GB. I'm happy to pay the hefty price for it given that I've ended up with such a high quality daily-driver that will last me many years. I'm not a GB expert, but Rama and his team seem to have done a great job. Communication was good, the project was well managed in terms of time, and the end product is super high quality.
Future plans for my keyboard are GMK Modern Dolch - which will be my first GMK set!
Post by: JFKroflcopter on Mon, 12 November 2018, 18:57:34
Also posted pictures on reddit but didn't get much traction :( Subreddit is more interested in memes unfortunately :p
Future plans for my keyboard are GMK Modern Dolch - which will be my first GMK set!
Yeah.. Unfortunately, you normally won't get many upvotes there unless it's a meme or Anne Pro :/
Your board looks great - Modern Dolch will be a great match!
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 12 November 2018, 19:20:14
So exams are all done and I had a great weekend building my M60-A! This is my first time building a keyboard, so it was pretty fun having to learn to lube switches, slowly lube each switch, and do troubleshooting! Definitely didn't expect it to take so long!
Also posted pictures on reddit but didn't get much traction :( Subreddit is more interested in memes unfortunately :pShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/IFyMjlx.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mYjIyK0.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/xNgEOlR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/IOMoj23.jpg)After building it, I had a bit of trouble with keypresses not registering, but I followed the support section on RAMA's website and found it was due to the PCB bowing out slightly. Easily fixed by following instructions.
- Moon M60-A, no internal weight
- Mod-M switches
- GMK stabilisers
- EnjoyPBT Black on White
Really glad I joined this GB. I'm happy to pay the hefty price for it given that I've ended up with such a high quality daily-driver that will last me many years. I'm not a GB expert, but Rama and his team seem to have done a great job. Communication was good, the project was well managed in terms of time, and the end product is super high quality.
Future plans for my keyboard are GMK Modern Dolch - which will be my first GMK set!
Wow!!! That looks awesome, love the contrast with the switches. Looking forward to seeing that with Modern Dolch, I think you're going to love your first GMK set! I'm in for one of those too, super excited. Glad the guide was an easy follow, we'll be writing more as we move along :D
And thanks so much for the kind words man! We're working as hard as we can to get these out to everyone as quickly as possible - even bought a new machine to help aid packaging and speed things up (more on that soon!) :p
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 13 November 2018, 00:25:47
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 13 November 2018, 09:15:38
Super stoked to get my board! (hopefully soon!)
I was curious if you guys did any testing for ESD? I got my M-65A about a year ago, and have already fried the PCB LEDs from ESD from when I touched the aluminum body. Bambinoo (of suited up keycaps) posted a fix where he grounded the USB shield to the aluminum body. Do you think something like that is necessary for the m60-a? I really don't want to damage the PCB, but winter is coming, and the air gets dry - combined with wearing a sweater, I'm gonna be shooting sparks everywhere!
Post by: chief_shankaho on Tue, 13 November 2018, 09:19:25
Hey RAMA,
Super stoked to get my board! (hopefully soon!)
I was curious if you guys did any testing for ESD? I got my M-65A about a year ago, and have already fried the PCB LEDs from ESD from when I touched the aluminum body. Bambinoo (of suited up keycaps) posted a fix where he grounded the USB shield to the aluminum body. Do you think something like that is necessary for the m60-a? I really don't want to damage the PCB, but winter is coming, and the air gets dry - combined with wearing a sweater, I'm gonna be shooting sparks everywhere!
Jumping off of this, because I have absolutely no electronics experience outside of soldering switches: is there risk to putting a layer of rubber down for sound dampening IF that layer of rubber is making contact with the PCB? I would assume that this would be beneficial if anything, helping to insulate the contacts from the aluminum body, but I'm not for sure. I'll have the internal weight so I'm guessing the rubber will still touch the PCB.
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 13 November 2018, 09:32:30
Jumping off of this, because I have absolutely no electronics experience outside of soldering switches: is there risk to putting a layer of rubber down for sound dampening IF that layer of rubber is making contact with the PCB? I would assume that this would be beneficial if anything, helping to insulate the contacts from the aluminum body, but I'm not for sure. I'll have the internal weight so I'm guessing the rubber will still touch the PCB.
I have used foam before in Zephyr/Zeal65... it's safe for the rubber/foam to touch the PCB, but I would cut 20mm circle/square holes where the LED driver ICs are located, as they get warm (or hot!) so it is best to let that heat dissipate. The LED driver ICs are located in the middle of the PCB (one is above spacebar switch, the other near U/I keys), they're the small black square shaped parts.
When I briefly had access to the M60-A prototype, I put a stack of foam strips, wider at bottom, it was kind of a wedge shape overall, mostly filling the rear of the case. FWIW if you get the internal weight, you're not going to need foam, it fills the space enough IMHO.
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 13 November 2018, 09:32:34
Hey RAMA,IIRC the M65-A pcb wasn’t designed by Wilba. The Zeal60 pcb (which is what the M60 pcb is based off) hasn’t given people problems like the M65 pcb. I don’t think we’ll have issues with our M60 pcb shorting on us.
Super stoked to get my board! (hopefully soon!)
I was curious if you guys did any testing for ESD? I got my M-65A about a year ago, and have already fried the PCB LEDs from ESD from when I touched the aluminum body. Bambinoo (of suited up keycaps) posted a fix where he grounded the USB shield to the aluminum body. Do you think something like that is necessary for the m60-a? I really don't want to damage the PCB, but winter is coming, and the air gets dry - combined with wearing a sweater, I'm gonna be shooting sparks everywhere!
Edit: Nvm, I didn’t see the Wilba had already replied. Ignore me.
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 13 November 2018, 09:58:35
Hey RAMA,IIRC the M65-A pcb wasn’t designed by Wilba. The Zeal60 pcb (which is what the M60 pcb is based off) hasn’t given people problems like the M65 pcb. I don’t think we’ll have issues with our M60 pcb shorting on us.
Super stoked to get my board! (hopefully soon!)
I was curious if you guys did any testing for ESD? I got my M-65A about a year ago, and have already fried the PCB LEDs from ESD from when I touched the aluminum body. Bambinoo (of suited up keycaps) posted a fix where he grounded the USB shield to the aluminum body. Do you think something like that is necessary for the m60-a? I really don't want to damage the PCB, but winter is coming, and the air gets dry - combined with wearing a sweater, I'm gonna be shooting sparks everywhere!
Edit: Nvm, I didn’t see the Wilba had already replied. Ignore me.
I didn't address the ESD issue because there are conflicting opinions about even grounding the shell of the USB connector on a device (i.e. connecting the USB shell electrically to the ground wire of the USB cable, and thus the microcontroller's ground).
I have sacrificed many goats to the PCB Gods and they have blessed me with PCBs that don't spontaneously fry themselves like the M65-A PCB. But I'll go sacrifice another one just in case.
Post by: ReverbSlush on Tue, 13 November 2018, 10:01:16
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 13 November 2018, 10:09:17
Let's hope the same isn't true of the M60-A. Although it's kinda cool having keyboards for different seasons.
Post by: ReverbSlush on Tue, 13 November 2018, 10:34:30
And I'll throw my hat in the ring to say that now it is cold out and my heater is running, i can no longer use my M65-A because it shocks and restarts every time I come near it. I actually don't even have to touch it :thumb:
Let's hope the same isn't true of the M60-A. Although it's kinda cool having keyboards for different seasons.
:-X :-\ sorry that is happening to you! I feel guilty now that mine is fine.
Post by: vewy_nice on Tue, 13 November 2018, 10:43:56
And I'll throw my hat in the ring to say that now it is cold out and my heater is running, i can no longer use my M65-A because it shocks and restarts every time I come near it. I actually don't even have to touch it :thumb:
Let's hope the same isn't true of the M60-A. Although it's kinda cool having keyboards for different seasons.
Have you tried a different USB cable? Have you checked continuity between the chassis and the USB housing on the PCB?
That sounds like a grounding issue (Which always get worse in the dry winter season). If you're using a homemade USB cable, it might not have a frame/ground connection to your PC.
ps: Shipping email says THURSDAY! I'm so excited!
I was getting all worked up trying to figure out which switches I want to use (I've got a bunch in a drawer ready to go), I remembered this is hot-swappable! My first hot-swap board :)
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 13 November 2018, 11:09:47
And I'll throw my hat in the ring to say that now it is cold out and my heater is running, i can no longer use my M65-A because it shocks and restarts every time I come near it. I actually don't even have to touch it :thumb:
Let's hope the same isn't true of the M60-A. Although it's kinda cool having keyboards for different seasons.
Have you tried a different USB cable? Have you checked continuity between the chassis and the USB housing on the PCB?
That sounds like a grounding issue (Which always get worse in the dry winter season). If you're using a homemade USB cable, it might not have a frame/ground connection to your PC.
ps: Shipping email says THURSDAY! I'm so excited!
I was getting all worked up trying to figure out which switches I want to use (I've got a bunch in a drawer ready to go), I remembered this is hot-swappable! My first hot-swap board :)
Yeah, I've tried a handful of cables. Haven't checked continuity. Mine gets here tomorrow! woop woop!
Post by: nerium on Tue, 13 November 2018, 15:21:27
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 13 November 2018, 15:43:02
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 13 November 2018, 16:41:42
I noticed you said shipping to Eastern US went out (or began). I'm in Massachusetts but didn't get a shipping notice, so I'm guessing there are more batches for Eastern US?
I'm on the Eastern shore and still waiting too, brother
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 13 November 2018, 16:52:10
And I'll throw my hat in the ring to say that now it is cold out and my heater is running, i can no longer use my M65-A because it shocks and restarts every time I come near it. I actually don't even have to touch it :thumb:
Let's hope the same isn't true of the M60-A. Although it's kinda cool having keyboards for different seasons.
Have you tried a different USB cable? Have you checked continuity between the chassis and the USB housing on the PCB?
That sounds like a grounding issue (Which always get worse in the dry winter season). If you're using a homemade USB cable, it might not have a frame/ground connection to your PC.
ps: Shipping email says THURSDAY! I'm so excited!
I was getting all worked up trying to figure out which switches I want to use (I've got a bunch in a drawer ready to go), I remembered this is hot-swappable! My first hot-swap board :)
And to be fair to the makers out there, it's not just my M65-A that has ESD problems. It happens on my Canoe, my Tex case with a Pok3r PCB, my Norbatouch, and my E8-V1 board as well. I normally just use a plastic or wooden case in the colder seasons. Sucks, but I'm tired of running a humidifier 24/7 to keep from frying my boards.
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 13 November 2018, 17:11:28
And I'll throw my hat in the ring to say that now it is cold out and my heater is running, i can no longer use my M65-A because it shocks and restarts every time I come near it. I actually don't even have to touch it :thumb:
Let's hope the same isn't true of the M60-A. Although it's kinda cool having keyboards for different seasons.
Have you tried a different USB cable? Have you checked continuity between the chassis and the USB housing on the PCB?
That sounds like a grounding issue (Which always get worse in the dry winter season). If you're using a homemade USB cable, it might not have a frame/ground connection to your PC.
ps: Shipping email says THURSDAY! I'm so excited!
I was getting all worked up trying to figure out which switches I want to use (I've got a bunch in a drawer ready to go), I remembered this is hot-swappable! My first hot-swap board :)
And to be fair to the makers out there, it's not just my M65-A that has ESD problems. It happens on my Canoe, my Tex case with a Pok3r PCB, my Norbatouch, and my E8-V1 board as well. I normally just use a plastic or wooden case in the colder seasons. Sucks, but I'm tired of running a humidifier 24/7 to keep from frying my boards.
Honestly, it sounds like your environment might have a tad affect. I've got m65, norbatouch, e6v2 and haven't had ESD yet. -fingers crossed-
Secondly, I love DHL express. Direct flight from Australia to UK, no bs stopovers, my sage should be arriving tomorrow.
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 13 November 2018, 17:25:29
Seconded. I’ve had an M65, a Pok3r in a TEX aluminum case and currently an e6-v2. None with ESD issues. Los Angeles area for reference.
And to be fair to the makers out there, it's not just my M65-A that has ESD problems. It happens on my Canoe, my Tex case with a Pok3r PCB, my Norbatouch, and my E8-V1 board as well. I normally just use a plastic or wooden case in the colder seasons. Sucks, but I'm tired of running a humidifier 24/7 to keep from frying my boards.
Honestly, it sounds like your environment might have a tad affect. I've got m65, norbatouch, e6v2 and haven't had ESD yet. -fingers crossed-
Though I imagine it could also be a combination of poor ESD protection and environment.
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 13 November 2018, 17:42:27
And to be fair to the makers out there, it's not just my M65-A that has ESD problems. It happens on my Canoe, my Tex case with a Pok3r PCB, my Norbatouch, and my E8-V1 board as well. I normally just use a plastic or wooden case in the colder seasons. Sucks, but I'm tired of running a humidifier 24/7 to keep from frying my boards.
Honestly, it sounds like your environment might have a tad affect. I've got m65, norbatouch, e6v2 and haven't had ESD yet. -fingers crossed-
Seconded. I’ve had an M65, a Pok3r in a TEX aluminum case and currently an e6-v2. None with ESD issues. Los Angeles area for reference.
Though I imagine it could also be a combination of poor ESD protection and environment.
Got it. I'll just pull out the carpet in my room. I'm sure my wife will understand :p
Post by: Clix4Clax on Tue, 13 November 2018, 18:23:57
I noticed you said shipping to Eastern US went out (or began). I'm in Massachusetts but didn't get a shipping notice, so I'm guessing there are more batches for Eastern US?
Yup shipped Monday and arrives tomorrow in NH. Wicked fast thru DHL.I saw Rama was going by country and color. Ordered moon.
Next 24 hours will drag like no other.
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 13 November 2018, 18:32:11
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 13 November 2018, 18:43:17
Just wondering, does anyone know if washers are a necessity if using screw in stabs?
No. Washers are only needed on PCBs that support multiple layouts and the hole overlaps with pads, so a screw might short the pads together.
Post by: DePulse on Tue, 13 November 2018, 18:44:52
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 13 November 2018, 18:47:18
Just wondering, does anyone know if washers are a necessity if using screw in stabs?
No. Washers are only needed on PCBs that support multiple layouts and the hole overlaps with pads, so a screw might short the pads together.
Great to know! Thanks for the quick response
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Tue, 13 November 2018, 20:01:26
And being taxed for extra 370 rmb (50 dollars).
Anyone from Asia with shipping notif?
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Post by: DePulse on Tue, 13 November 2018, 20:25:53
Yes, Beijing arrived.
And being taxed for extra 370 rmb (50 dollars).Anyone from Asia with shipping notif?
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Ohh nice but not so nice on the tax :( didn't receive my shipping notif yet.
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Tue, 13 November 2018, 20:32:57
Yes, Beijing arrived.
And being taxed for extra 370 rmb (50 dollars).Anyone from Asia with shipping notif?
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Ohh nice but not so nice on the tax :( didn't receive my shipping notif yet.
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Post by: kokugatsu on Tue, 13 November 2018, 20:45:55
Anyone from Asia with shipping notif?Yep, got a shipping notif on Sunday and arrived on my doorstep yesterday
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 13 November 2018, 22:24:36
And to be fair to the makers out there, it's not just my M65-A that has ESD problems. It happens on my Canoe, my Tex case with a Pok3r PCB, my Norbatouch, and my E8-V1 board as well. I normally just use a plastic or wooden case in the colder seasons. Sucks, but I'm tired of running a humidifier 24/7 to keep from frying my boards.
Honestly, it sounds like your environment might have a tad affect. I've got m65, norbatouch, e6v2 and haven't had ESD yet. -fingers crossed-
Seconded. I’ve had an M65, a Pok3r in a TEX aluminum case and currently an e6-v2. None with ESD issues. Los Angeles area for reference.
Though I imagine it could also be a combination of poor ESD protection and environment.
Got it. I'll just pull out the carpet in my room. I'm sure my wife will understand :p
a humidifier will do wonders for your ESD
Post by: Regret on Tue, 13 November 2018, 23:19:13
Post by: up-in on Wed, 14 November 2018, 01:06:43
Post by: manzel on Wed, 14 November 2018, 02:13:11
Any Fellow German whos already got shipping notif?Mine is out for delivery today. If it does not arrive until I have to leave, I will have to wait until next week -.-
Post by: up-in on Wed, 14 November 2018, 02:20:05
Any Fellow German whos already got shipping notif?Mine is out for delivery today. If it does not arrive until I have to leave, I will have to wait until next week -.-
At least you know it’s on the way 😁, i still haven’t got any shipping notification 🤷🏻♂️
Post by: asury on Wed, 14 November 2018, 02:45:46
Any Fellow German whos already got shipping notif?Mine is out for delivery today. If it does not arrive until I have to leave, I will have to wait until next week -.-
At least you know it’s on the way 😁, i still haven’t got any shipping notification 🤷🏻♂️
I'm on the same boat, really hope that I'll be lucky enough to have it ship for me this weekend 🤞🏼 :D
Post by: heycheeeno on Wed, 14 November 2018, 04:42:01
The hot swap sockets are a little loose? For my board it seems to be most prevalent on the 5/6/7 keys.
Is this to be expected?
Also i accidentally dropped one of the rear hex keys and unable to find it, what size are they?
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 14 November 2018, 05:50:23
Finally got mine and assembled it, very nicely packaged i have noticed a few things however.
The hot swap sockets are a little loose? For my board it seems to be most prevalent on the 5/6/7 keys.
Is this to be expected?
Also i accidentally dropped one of the rear hex keys and unable to find it, what size are they?
Not sure if you mean the sockets are loose, or the switches in the sockets.
See the guides here: https://rama.works/guides
Perhaps your PCB is not flat in the middle and switches are not inserted fully.
The four bottom screws are M4, the hex key is 3mm.
Post by: G1LL3Y on Wed, 14 November 2018, 07:04:06
I noticed you said shipping to Eastern US went out (or began). I'm in Massachusetts but didn't get a shipping notice, so I'm guessing there are more batches for Eastern US?
I'm on the Eastern shore and still waiting too, brother
Same here I am out here in TN, and still no notification on shipping as of yet... :/
Post by: nerium on Wed, 14 November 2018, 07:36:38
I noticed you said shipping to Eastern US went out (or began). I'm in Massachusetts but didn't get a shipping notice, so I'm guessing there are more batches for Eastern US?
I'm on the Eastern shore and still waiting too, brother
Good to hear that I'm not the only one! Now to try and decide on switches.. I ordered Mist and a set of GMK WoB, but those don't ship until February :(
Post by: Steerpike on Wed, 14 November 2018, 08:03:55
Post by: jjwax on Wed, 14 November 2018, 09:12:00
I noticed you said shipping to Eastern US went out (or began). I'm in Massachusetts but didn't get a shipping notice, so I'm guessing there are more batches for Eastern US?
I'm on the Eastern shore and still waiting too, brother
Good to hear that I'm not the only one! Now to try and decide on switches.. I ordered Mist and a set of GMK WoB, but those don't ship until February :(
I've got some lubed 78g zilents and gmk yuri ready to go! (unless I can find someone to trade for some sweet serika action!)
Post by: G1LL3Y on Wed, 14 November 2018, 09:21:58
I noticed you said shipping to Eastern US went out (or began). I'm in Massachusetts but didn't get a shipping notice, so I'm guessing there are more batches for Eastern US?
I'm on the Eastern shore and still waiting too, brother
Good to hear that I'm not the only one! Now to try and decide on switches.. I ordered Mist and a set of GMK WoB, but those don't ship until February :(
I've got some lubed 78g zilents and gmk yuri ready to go! (unless I can find someone to trade for some sweet serika action!)
I've got some tealios and sa penumbra solaraized to complement my Lake M60-A.
Post by: siggerzz on Wed, 14 November 2018, 09:48:43
I should have expected it but damn is the customs fee expensive :(
Oh god, how much are we talking? Not looking forward to mine getting shipped to the UK :'(
Post by: msvming on Wed, 14 November 2018, 09:53:00
(https://i.imgur.com/R90lfiZ.jpg)
but one quick question to the Via Configurator, i saw one grey button call "Any" which description as to put any qmk command but i dont know how to use it
For example, if i want LT(2,KC_SPC), will it possible under Via Configurator or i need to do it manually in QMK?
Thanks!
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 14 November 2018, 10:20:31
Post by: Clix4Clax on Wed, 14 November 2018, 10:22:50
Just a quick question, does this board need to be programmed? If so, it would be the first board I've ever had to program so not too sure how it will go aha.
I am pretty sure all the PCBs are flashed to a default layout posted earlier in the thread.
https://rama.works/guides/#/m60a-default-layout/
Post by: pnkpanther65 on Wed, 14 November 2018, 10:24:08
Getting mine today in Canada, $104 Canuck Bucks :cI should have expected it but damn is the customs fee expensive :(
Oh god, how much are we talking? Not looking forward to mine getting shipped to the UK :'(
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
Post by: Mekuno on Wed, 14 November 2018, 10:27:44
Post by: siggerzz on Wed, 14 November 2018, 10:33:43
Getting mine today in Canada, $104 Canuck Bucks :cI should have expected it but damn is the customs fee expensive :(
Oh god, how much are we talking? Not looking forward to mine getting shipped to the UK :'(
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
Ouch. Suddenly glad I held off on Koyu ;D
Post by: Cktenders on Wed, 14 November 2018, 14:41:43
I noticed you said shipping to Eastern US went out (or began). I'm in Massachusetts but didn't get a shipping notice, so I'm guessing there are more batches for Eastern US?
I'm on the Eastern shore and still waiting too, brother
Good to hear that I'm not the only one! Now to try and decide on switches.. I ordered Mist and a set of GMK WoB, but those don't ship until February :(
I'm in Atlanta and got my Moon today. Not trying to rub salt in the wound or gloat. I wonder if he started at the far S.E. perhaps? Hopefully you all get yours soon!
Post by: Clix4Clax on Wed, 14 November 2018, 15:14:25
Post by: Lisinge on Wed, 14 November 2018, 15:18:39
But if you have the m60 coming in then i advice you to not look at the album for the true experience once you receive yours.
All i can say is that rama truly outdid themselves with the packaging and everything!
Post by: nu_types on Wed, 14 November 2018, 15:21:38
Getting mine today in Canada, $104 Canuck Bucks :cI should have expected it but damn is the customs fee expensive :(
Oh god, how much are we talking? Not looking forward to mine getting shipped to the UK :'(
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
Ouch, that's painful.
Post by: chief_shankaho on Wed, 14 November 2018, 15:37:31
Moon landed in Sweden. I put together a unboxing album for the ones interested: https://imgur.com/a/klrnrGX
But if you have the m60 coming in then i advice you to not look at the album for the true experience once you receive yours.
All i can say is that rama truly outdid themselves with the packaging and everything!
Mine comes tomorrow. MUST NOT LOOK
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Post by: heycheeeno on Wed, 14 November 2018, 17:51:32
Finally got mine and assembled it, very nicely packaged i have noticed a few things however.
The hot swap sockets are a little loose? For my board it seems to be most prevalent on the 5/6/7 keys.
Is this to be expected?
Also i accidentally dropped one of the rear hex keys and unable to find it, what size are they?
Not sure if you mean the sockets are loose, or the switches in the sockets.
See the guides here: https://rama.works/guides
Perhaps your PCB is not flat in the middle and switches are not inserted fully.
The four bottom screws are M4, the hex key is 3mm.
Thanks for the info regarding the screws.
The switches after being pushed into the sockets feel loose.
I haven't got the time at the moment but i'll definitely check the PCB on the weekend.
Thanks again!
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 14 November 2018, 18:18:56
but one quick question to the Via Configurator, i saw one grey button call "Any" which description as to put any qmk command but i dont know how to use it
For example, if i want LT(2,KC_SPC), will it possible under Via Configurator or i need to do it manually in QMK?
Some things haven't been finished, like that "Any" button. If you really want that now, you'll have to do it manually in QMK. Note that you'll need to hold Esc when inserting USB to clear the keymaps in memory, so that keymaps in your new firmware get used as the new defaults. I will explain this better somewhere else in the guides, just warning you (and others), if you start installing your own built QMK firmware, it might still be using the keymap already saved in memory and not the one you built.
Post by: msvming on Wed, 14 November 2018, 18:32:44
but one quick question to the Via Configurator, i saw one grey button call "Any" which description as to put any qmk command but i dont know how to use it
For example, if i want LT(2,KC_SPC), will it possible under Via Configurator or i need to do it manually in QMK?
Some things haven't been finished, like that "Any" button. If you really want that now, you'll have to do it manually in QMK. Note that you'll need to hold Esc when inserting USB to clear the keymaps in memory, so that keymaps in your new firmware get used as the new defaults. I will explain this better somewhere else in the guides, just warning you (and others), if you start installing your own built QMK firmware, it might still be using the keymap already saved in memory and not the one you built.
Thanks Wilba!, i need to hold esc that is why ...
been trying to flash for many times lol
Solved now!
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 14 November 2018, 18:47:38
but one quick question to the Via Configurator, i saw one grey button call "Any" which description as to put any qmk command but i dont know how to use it
For example, if i want LT(2,KC_SPC), will it possible under Via Configurator or i need to do it manually in QMK?
Some things haven't been finished, like that "Any" button. If you really want that now, you'll have to do it manually in QMK. Note that you'll need to hold Esc when inserting USB to clear the keymaps in memory, so that keymaps in your new firmware get used as the new defaults. I will explain this better somewhere else in the guides, just warning you (and others), if you start installing your own built QMK firmware, it might still be using the keymap already saved in memory and not the one you built.
Thanks Wilba!, i need to hold esc that is why ...
been trying to flash for many times lol
Solved now!
;D I think I need to add this to the top of all the keymap.c files.
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 14 November 2018, 18:52:25
I just wanna play with my toys!
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 14 November 2018, 19:34:18
Got mine together today. No time to get proper pics yet. Damn kid invited 1/2 of the neighborhood over for hot chocolate. I’ll be in the kitchen for a long time :(
I just wanna play with my toys!
LOLLL Leave the hot-chocolate away from the boards! :P
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Also, our new toy came in! We got this to increase the efficiency and presentation of our boxes - will be much neater and stronger now! Excited to get through the next batch and have more boards out to everyone as soon as possible. Going through them as quickly as we can, also will have some people helping out to get through it quicker ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/TVuXIga.jpg)
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 14 November 2018, 19:41:05
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 14 November 2018, 21:09:23
Post by: Brannan on Wed, 14 November 2018, 21:28:22
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 14 November 2018, 21:56:27
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3eLAVOl.gif)
uh... y'all got any more of those... PCBs?
Oh man. First two flat tires in one week and I just done broke my 7 key :(
I was like, that's weird, wonder why my PCB is bowed up... I'll just press down... blamo, right side of the hotswap socket ripped right off the PCB. Still not sure why it happened. The pin on the switch wasn't bent or anything. Oh well. I found that I can just connect it to the diode right underneath it and all is well. Still, ima need a new one at some point. Can't like with janky stuff on my nice boards.
Post by: onefivenine on Wed, 14 November 2018, 22:02:46
(https://i.imgur.com/BrybInt.jpg)
Post by: pnkpanther65 on Wed, 14 November 2018, 22:03:59
beautiful board Rama(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181115/e3506dc92d13752a470806680b3a0a75.jpg)Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 14 November 2018, 22:09:39
uh... y'all got any more of those... PCBs?
Oh man. First two flat tires in one week and I just done broke my 7 key :(
I was like, that's weird, wonder why my PCB is bowed up... I'll just press down... blamo, right side of the hotswap socket ripped right off the PCB. Still not sure why it happened. The pin on the switch wasn't bent or anything. Oh well. I found that I can just connect it to the diode right underneath it and all is well. Still, ima need a new one at some point. Can't like with janky stuff on my nice boards.
Email support@rama.works :) We'll sort that out!
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Also keep posting your setups, these are all so great :o Keeping us motivated during packaging :P
Post by: packman86 on Wed, 14 November 2018, 22:20:51
Also huge thanks for creating that configurator. Being able to see the lighting changes in real time is amazing!
It was a pleasure to be part of this group buy and I can't be happier with the result.
I'll flex photos once I get this thing in the studio and in front of a proper camera.
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 14 November 2018, 22:54:26
Post by: Mekuno on Wed, 14 November 2018, 23:24:42
(https://i.imgur.com/9hfx1m6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/q3BJrUW.jpg)
Post by: watevermelon on Wed, 14 November 2018, 23:42:08
As Rama requested, here is my Moon M60-A x Olivia! The build quality is second to none, and the experience of unboxing everything was a real treat. Thanks again to Rama, Kate and their team for making this happen!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/9hfx1m6.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/q3BJrUW.jpg)
That is ****ing fuego.
Post by: gutsack on Wed, 14 November 2018, 23:45:07
<jealousy intensifies>
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 14 November 2018, 23:46:36
Okay, these all look amazing but until I get a shipping notice for my two M60-As I’m going to go ahead and ask that every other person stop receiving, photographing, building or enjoying theirs. Thanks in advance!
<jealousy intensifies>
Well, I broke mine. That surely makes you feel a little bit better, right?
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 14 November 2018, 23:47:50
Okay, these all look amazing but until I get a shipping notice for my two M60-As I’m going to go ahead and ask that every other person stop receiving, photographing, building or enjoying theirs. Thanks in advance!
<jealousy intensifies>
Well, I broke mine. That surely makes you feel a little bit better, right?
F
Post by: Sun on Wed, 14 November 2018, 23:56:46
There was so much foam, I think the keyboard could withstand being dropped from a plane.
The packaging and PCB were beautiful. The attention to detail was on another level. I had so much fun unboxing everything.
What blew me away the most was the color. I got Sage and I don't think any picture or video will ever do it justice. I am glad I stuck with it.
I am excited to build it. I got Gateron yellow switches but now i feel I should have stepped up and got some Tealios. Also I am going to need a Moon weight to go with Modern Dolch.
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 15 November 2018, 00:09:02
Wow. This is my first keyboard GB and my mind is blown.
There was so much foam, I think the keyboard could withstand being dropped from a plane.
The packaging and PCB were beautiful. The attention to detail was on another level. I had so much fun unboxing everything.
What blew me away the most was the color. I got Sage and I don't think any picture or video will ever do it justice. I am glad I stuck with it.
I am excited to build it. I got Gateron yellow switches but now i feel I should have stepped up and got some Tealios. Also I am going to need a Moon weight to go with Modern Dolch.
Well, the good thing is that you can easily try out Tealios in the future! All hail King Rama.
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 15 November 2018, 00:13:12
Well, I broke mine. That surely makes you feel a little bit better, right?
Damn, not at all—that’s terrible. What happened?
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 15 November 2018, 01:11:26
REPRESENTING TEAM MIST. Tried and true, too proud to pick blue (although I own pretty much everything blue there is):
[attachimg=1]
Post by: packman86 on Thu, 15 November 2018, 01:53:58
7 key no workie. Apparently I have hulk strength and my poor PCB was on the receiving end, but Rama already has a new one on the way to me. Can you friggin believe this man? Anywhoo...
REPRESENTING TEAM MIST. Tried and true, too proud to pick blue (although I own pretty much everything blue there is):
(Attachment Link)
By far the prettiest Honeywell build I have seen! Gorgeous!!
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 15 November 2018, 02:27:11
I actually would love to get a silver back weight for my SAGE. Rama, is something like this doable in time?
Post by: schlep on Thu, 15 November 2018, 03:41:02
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3eLAVOl.gif)
uh... y'all got any more of those... PCBs?
Oh man. First two flat tires in one week and I just done broke my 7 key :(
I was like, that's weird, wonder why my PCB is bowed up... I'll just press down... blamo, right side of the hotswap socket ripped right off the PCB. Still not sure why it happened. The pin on the switch wasn't bent or anything. Oh well. I found that I can just connect it to the diode right underneath it and all is well. Still, ima need a new one at some point. Can't like with janky stuff on my nice boards.
My hotswap sockets for no. 9 key got ripped off the PCB too. How do you connect it back? Do we have to solder the hotswap socket back to the PCB?
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 15 November 2018, 05:48:15
My hotswap sockets for no. 9 key got ripped off the PCB too. How do you connect it back? Do we have to solder the hotswap socket back to the PCB?
If you have a soldering iron and want to try putting a hotswap socket back on, then this would obviously be a quicker fix than exchanging for a new PCB. First ensure that the PCB is flat for all the other switches. It seems most of the problems people are having are due to not putting any counterforce (i.e. pushing the socket while inserting the switches). Relying on the screws to hold the PCB flat will cause the PCB to bend in the middle. The screws are for aligning the PCB and making inserting switches easier.
To solder the hotswap, it should be OK to use the solder that is already on the pad, just put it in position and push down in the middle of the hotswap's "pin" with the soldering iron tip, which should melt the solder and form a new joint. Alternate between each side until the hotswap socket is flat.
NOTE: Soldering the hotswaps, or "reflowing" the hotswap pads, is not a solution to a switch not working. The most likely causes are the switch pin being bent, or the PCB not being flat.
Post by: schlep on Thu, 15 November 2018, 07:46:41
My hotswap sockets for no. 9 key got ripped off the PCB too. How do you connect it back? Do we have to solder the hotswap socket back to the PCB?
If you have a soldering iron and want to try putting a hotswap socket back on, then this would obviously be a quicker fix than exchanging for a new PCB. First ensure that the PCB is flat for all the other switches. It seems most of the problems people are having are due to not putting any counterforce (i.e. pushing the socket while inserting the switches). Relying on the screws to hold the PCB flat will cause the PCB to bend in the middle. The screws are for aligning the PCB and making inserting switches easier.
To solder the hotswap, it should be OK to use the solder that is already on the pad, just put it in position and push down in the middle of the hotswap's "pin" with the soldering iron tip, which should melt the solder and form a new joint. Alternate between each side until the hotswap socket is flat.
NOTE: Soldering the hotswaps, or "reflowing" the hotswap pads, is not a solution to a switch not working. The most likely causes are the switch pin being bent, or the PCB not being flat.
Thanks for the reply Wilba. Just to be sure if the sockets can still be salvaged, I have included a picture of the ripped off socket and the PCB.
I was just wondering on one side of the socket, there is a small piece of copper metal still stuck to it which I believe must have been ripped off from the PCB. How do I attach that back to the PCB?
I have also raised a support ticket through to Rama. I just hope I could get a temporary fix before a new PCB is sent over (if it can be sent over).
Thanks!
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 15 November 2018, 07:49:57
My hotswap sockets for no. 9 key got ripped off the PCB too. How do you connect it back? Do we have to solder the hotswap socket back to the PCB?
If you have a soldering iron and want to try putting a hotswap socket back on, then this would obviously be a quicker fix than exchanging for a new PCB. First ensure that the PCB is flat for all the other switches. It seems most of the problems people are having are due to not putting any counterforce (i.e. pushing the socket while inserting the switches). Relying on the screws to hold the PCB flat will cause the PCB to bend in the middle. The screws are for aligning the PCB and making inserting switches easier.
To solder the hotswap, it should be OK to use the solder that is already on the pad, just put it in position and push down in the middle of the hotswap's "pin" with the soldering iron tip, which should melt the solder and form a new joint. Alternate between each side until the hotswap socket is flat.
NOTE: Soldering the hotswaps, or "reflowing" the hotswap pads, is not a solution to a switch not working. The most likely causes are the switch pin being bent, or the PCB not being flat.
Thanks for the reply Wilba. Just to be sure if the sockets can still be salvaged, I have included a picture of the ripped off socket and the PCB.
I was just wondering on one side of the socket, there is a small piece of copper metal still stuck to it which I believe must have been ripped off from the PCB. How do I attach that back to the PCB?
Thanks!
Email support@rama.works and we can help you further.
Post by: vewy_nice on Thu, 15 November 2018, 08:20:44
Moon has landed in New Hampshire!
Hey! Where you at, fellow statesman?
My Sage comes in today! It's going to be a long day.
Post by: Clix4Clax on Thu, 15 November 2018, 08:47:21
Wow. This is my first keyboard GB and my mind is blown.
There was so much foam, I think the keyboard could withstand being dropped from a plane.
The packaging and PCB were beautiful. The attention to detail was on another level. I had so much fun unboxing everything.
What blew me away the most was the color. I got Sage and I don't think any picture or video will ever do it justice. I am glad I stuck with it.
I am excited to build it. I got Gateron yellow switches but now i feel I should have stepped up and got some Tealios. Also I am going to need a Moon weight to go with Modern Dolch.
Can confirm.. I have the Inventory2 in Sage and have not found a picture that does the color justice.
Post by: Clix4Clax on Thu, 15 November 2018, 08:50:02
Moon has landed in New Hampshire!
Hey! Where you at, fellow statesman?
My Sage comes in today! It's going to be a long day.
My dude , I am in the Merrimack area. What a trip . I bet we own the only RAMA gear in the whole state lol.
Here is my Moon with its first outfit.. Coming next is Godspeed with these alphas.
https://imgur.com/X3IfQc8
absolutely blown away by everything. From the smoothness of the GB itself to the carefully organized packing to the beauty of the board itself.
e
2nd edit: can confirm , yesterday was the longest day of my life. Days going quick now that i brought it to work and can play all day on it. Where are you located? we should have a Keeb meet up in the shire lol
(https://i.imgur.com/X3IfQc8.jpg?1)
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 15 November 2018, 09:13:09
My hotswap sockets for no. 9 key got ripped off the PCB too. How do you connect it back? Do we have to solder the hotswap socket back to the PCB?
If you have a soldering iron and want to try putting a hotswap socket back on, then this would obviously be a quicker fix than exchanging for a new PCB. First ensure that the PCB is flat for all the other switches. It seems most of the problems people are having are due to not putting any counterforce (i.e. pushing the socket while inserting the switches). Relying on the screws to hold the PCB flat will cause the PCB to bend in the middle. The screws are for aligning the PCB and making inserting switches easier.
To solder the hotswap, it should be OK to use the solder that is already on the pad, just put it in position and push down in the middle of the hotswap's "pin" with the soldering iron tip, which should melt the solder and form a new joint. Alternate between each side until the hotswap socket is flat.
NOTE: Soldering the hotswaps, or "reflowing" the hotswap pads, is not a solution to a switch not working. The most likely causes are the switch pin being bent, or the PCB not being flat.
Thanks for the reply Wilba. Just to be sure if the sockets can still be salvaged, I have included a picture of the ripped off socket and the PCB.
I was just wondering on one side of the socket, there is a small piece of copper metal still stuck to it which I believe must have been ripped off from the PCB. How do I attach that back to the PCB?
I have also raised a support ticket through to Rama. I just hope I could get a temporary fix before a new PCB is sent over (if it can be sent over).
Thanks!
This is what happened to mine as well. Already have a new one on the way. Just email support and they'll fix you up.
Post by: chief_shankaho on Thu, 15 November 2018, 14:52:41
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Abwe2vV4Os1ZMzL7_8ds4kViT7oHbdYTOOFcfnpv0Zu2rtl1_-_wIRd6LwKqyeDxJBJ1gp8uqRUOSo_0oKRBLg9yspMIYy_O57xkP2LO1jSPimraU_hDcZc9JFZ6uzubBZG7M7XShcxkuLSwnpnVCOXoZlTfUYKlGKQmuhlABrxpFNyf9I5Pk-AkoBVZVUovpNeyUA0q_Kdu1qYHSbn_gzYNlZXdL-TdVKG4KWDQVHcCtD9m7S-NDCNgc-gNmDikduNglpBBTjr734ac_BjQYJ_wD1Mlsmitoq6je0fKyLBRHJqgMrmAliCbSrOaQ8FIWuInhRG_csKncmxYcClyDkj17ymnjeN__YsWk35VSCVsQueUuqVfGrU3f58TXADbsVsgwKr0QTw5KEWhkq0Nhuby_fP2fQtuRT9xUKbPpWyqGJWePzfDDCKgSuHSHzAdvlkVxDum56MIg1-ugtlxG4RIO6mt5yh5m5njYmvoFudCPRw2NQJstBaZ7Hc5H0koD9FFlb_nQyZoTT_eGt7Bx6pYw-I8yI62J9rsTqAmwSNs8p7DsjAqKNpS6Jd6nK0-EqvBmfzJGGw7PcLYA8CBhScP7k8tiso5neFOJNgVIA9cFoPSVOtn_0U37npWBvpNRu1jMAjBAEgCmhKXJcsSGdrQ=w937-h1249-no)
It's incredible. I wish there was a screw in the top/center of the PCB as I had to leave the base off like shown in Rama's guides so I could press down on the center of the PCB while installing switches, which makes swapping switches a bit more time-consuming. Otherwise it's an incredible board. Certainly my favorite that I've owned.
Post by: bball2 on Thu, 15 November 2018, 15:53:18
Getting mine today in Canada, $104 Canuck Bucks :cDamn, that's going to hurt when I get mine as well :(
Post by: pnkpanther65 on Thu, 15 November 2018, 15:55:07
I'm in Quebec if that gives you any hope, might be better elsewhereGetting mine today in Canada, $104 Canuck Bucks :cDamn, that's going to hurt when I get mine as well :(
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 15 November 2018, 16:36:39
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Post by: Talljoe on Thu, 15 November 2018, 17:22:13
If you are using more than four layers you will want to set "DYNAMIC_KEYMAP_ENABLE=no" in your rules.mk. You might also be able to increase the number of supported layers, but I'm not sure at which point you start running out of flash. You'll know if you are having this problem if you try to switch to a new layer and the keys do nothing (answers the question as to why my Zeal60 boards stopped working).
Currently (but likely to be fixed soon with the merge of my PR (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/4432)) the rama/m60_a keyboard definition doesn't support the 60_hhkb layout. You will want to add it if you use layouts (and, frankly everyone should be using layouts). Once you have it in place you can use "make rama/m60_a:your_keymap_name:dfu" to build and flash your device.
To put the board into bootloader (programming) mode hold down the top-left key (usually Escape but I'll not be so presumptuous). This will also clear the EEPROM so if you set backlight colors they will be reset to the default. I recommend putting a RESET key in your keymap to enter bootloader without clearing the EEPROM or having to unplug/replug the USB cable each time (it can lead to scratching the back plate, to which I can testify).
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Thu, 15 November 2018, 17:35:45
Here's my space themed Mist!
Thanks again Rama! This thing is perfect!
Post by: BerserkZz on Thu, 15 November 2018, 19:34:00
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 15 November 2018, 19:57:03
Damn, looking at all these pics and I haven't gotten my shipping notification yet. Feels bad.I think that says more about how many keyboards were ordered + the speed of the shipping. Some of these boards are taking less than 48 hrs to get halfway around the world, which is awesome! Don’t worry, the wait will be worth it bud!
Post by: MrTq on Thu, 15 November 2018, 20:48:06
Just received the sage M60-A. Quality is top notch! Thank you, kingrama.The real one is more difference than the render :eek: Do you have any photo in good lightning condition?
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(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab4ef41758d46d6fb4d4abf/1521807187614/RAMA-M60-A-03.759.jpg)
Post by: Hokabuki on Thu, 15 November 2018, 21:59:25
Post by: schylarker on Thu, 15 November 2018, 22:00:34
Also, what are those four little nips on the switch cutouts? Are they do prevent shaving switch sides?
Post by: schlep on Thu, 15 November 2018, 22:15:37
My hotswap sockets for no. 9 key got ripped off the PCB too. How do you connect it back? Do we have to solder the hotswap socket back to the PCB?
If you have a soldering iron and want to try putting a hotswap socket back on, then this would obviously be a quicker fix than exchanging for a new PCB. First ensure that the PCB is flat for all the other switches. It seems most of the problems people are having are due to not putting any counterforce (i.e. pushing the socket while inserting the switches). Relying on the screws to hold the PCB flat will cause the PCB to bend in the middle. The screws are for aligning the PCB and making inserting switches easier.
To solder the hotswap, it should be OK to use the solder that is already on the pad, just put it in position and push down in the middle of the hotswap's "pin" with the soldering iron tip, which should melt the solder and form a new joint. Alternate between each side until the hotswap socket is flat.
NOTE: Soldering the hotswaps, or "reflowing" the hotswap pads, is not a solution to a switch not working. The most likely causes are the switch pin being bent, or the PCB not being flat.
Thanks for the reply Wilba. Just to be sure if the sockets can still be salvaged, I have included a picture of the ripped off socket and the PCB.
I was just wondering on one side of the socket, there is a small piece of copper metal still stuck to it which I believe must have been ripped off from the PCB. How do I attach that back to the PCB?
Thanks!
Email support@rama.works and we can help you further.
Thanks Wilba, Rama and pixelpusher for all the support. I managed to salvage the PCB but it does look like a temp solution.
I understand that things may break but I appreciate all the support from Wilba and Rama.
Post by: Steerpike on Thu, 15 November 2018, 22:20:47
Post by: chief_shankaho on Thu, 15 November 2018, 22:46:15
Mine arrived today, I'm very impressed! I noticed that several of my keys are kind of flakey; some flat out don't work and others seem sort of on and off between resetting them. I followed the guide and it appears that the PCB is fine (shorting the pins verified all keys). But my switches also look okay and look like they're fully seated; also, swapping the switches from some of the working keys didn't seem to help. However, pressing the PCB in the problem areas did help in a few cases... is there some trick to setting/mounting the PCB? I didn't notice any problems when setting it, but I'm not sure why else I might have this issue. Not sure if it's relevant, but I got 67g Zealios; are they known to have a different profile for their pins or something that might cause this?
May be the same issue I was having. There's no screw in the middle/top of the PCB so inserting the switches pushes the PCB down slightly, which makes the switches not seat completely in the sockets. I left the bottom off the case when I seated the switches and pressed against the bottom of the PCB as I inserted the switches. That's really only needed for like E through I and D through K, if that. Hope that helps.
Post by: onefivenine on Thu, 15 November 2018, 22:48:42
Mine arrived today, I'm very impressed! I noticed that several of my keys are kind of flakey; some flat out don't work and others seem sort of on and off between resetting them. I followed the guide and it appears that the PCB is fine (shorting the pins verified all keys). But my switches also look okay and look like they're fully seated; also, swapping the switches from some of the working keys didn't seem to help. However, pressing the PCB in the problem areas did help in a few cases... is there some trick to setting/mounting the PCB? I didn't notice any problems when setting it, but I'm not sure why else I might have this issue. Not sure if it's relevant, but I got 67g Zealios; are they known to have a different profile for their pins or something that might cause this?
Did you make sure that the pcb is sitting flush against the frame and switches fully inserted? Also check your switch legs, I smashed a couple of mine.
Post by: Mekuno on Thu, 15 November 2018, 22:53:56
Mine arrived today, I'm very impressed! I noticed that several of my keys are kind of flakey; some flat out don't work and others seem sort of on and off between resetting them. I followed the guide and it appears that the PCB is fine (shorting the pins verified all keys). But my switches also look okay and look like they're fully seated; also, swapping the switches from some of the working keys didn't seem to help. However, pressing the PCB in the problem areas did help in a few cases... is there some trick to setting/mounting the PCB? I didn't notice any problems when setting it, but I'm not sure why else I might have this issue. Not sure if it's relevant, but I got 67g Zealios; are they known to have a different profile for their pins or something that might cause this?
sometimes you just gotta pull out the switch, put in a different switch in and see if it works, or see if the pins aren't bent and actually seated properly.
Post by: schlep on Thu, 15 November 2018, 23:06:13
Hotswap PCBs are meant to be more convenient but I am starting to feel like soldered on ones are better.
Post by: voight-kampff on Fri, 16 November 2018, 03:36:25
Post by: KingRama on Fri, 16 November 2018, 05:05:49
Mine arrived today, I'm very impressed! I noticed that several of my keys are kind of flakey; some flat out don't work and others seem sort of on and off between resetting them. I followed the guide and it appears that the PCB is fine (shorting the pins verified all keys). But my switches also look okay and look like they're fully seated; also, swapping the switches from some of the working keys didn't seem to help. However, pressing the PCB in the problem areas did help in a few cases... is there some trick to setting/mounting the PCB? I didn't notice any problems when setting it, but I'm not sure why else I might have this issue. Not sure if it's relevant, but I got 67g Zealios; are they known to have a different profile for their pins or something that might cause this?
May be the same issue I was having. There's no screw in the middle/top of the PCB so inserting the switches pushes the PCB down slightly, which makes the switches not seat completely in the sockets. I left the bottom off the case when I seated the switches and pressed against the bottom of the PCB as I inserted the switches. That's really only needed for like E through I and D through K, if that. Hope that helps.
The best way to assemble the board is inserting the switches from the center and working outwards, Quake from TopClack recently did a build video and show's how to do it here:
https://youtu.be/1oIoVqhsO64?t=5149 (https://youtu.be/1oIoVqhsO64?t=5149) Hope that helps!
Post by: Kerasan on Fri, 16 November 2018, 07:08:15
I cant wait anymore, I envy/hate everyone! :)) :-* :-* :-*
KMK Labs
Post by: G1LL3Y on Fri, 16 November 2018, 07:22:44
I cant wait anymore, I envy/hate everyone! :)) :-* :-* :-*
KMK Labs
I know what you mean. I check my Rama account and GeekHack multiple times daily in hopes that I will find out something about my order... and the wait continues...
Post by: ttot on Fri, 16 November 2018, 07:34:13
I cant wait anymore, I envy/hate everyone! :)) :-* :-* :-*
KMK Labs
I know what you mean. I check my Rama account and GeekHack multiple times daily in hopes that I will find out something about my order... and the wait continues...
same story :)
Post by: KingRama on Fri, 16 November 2018, 07:39:56
I cant wait anymore, I envy/hate everyone! :)) :-* :-* :-*
KMK Labs
I know what you mean. I check my Rama account and GeekHack multiple times daily in hopes that I will find out something about my order... and the wait continues...
same story :)
Wilba, Kate and I are back in the warehouse early tomorrow morning! :D More orders to go out
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Latest guide here on installing switches:
https://rama.works/guides#/m60a-pcb-stab-switch-installation/ (https://rama.works/guides#/m60a-pcb-stab-switch-installation/)
Post by: msvming on Fri, 16 November 2018, 07:45:54
Mine arrived today, I'm very impressed! I noticed that several of my keys are kind of flakey; some flat out don't work and others seem sort of on and off between resetting them. I followed the guide and it appears that the PCB is fine (shorting the pins verified all keys). But my switches also look okay and look like they're fully seated; also, swapping the switches from some of the working keys didn't seem to help. However, pressing the PCB in the problem areas did help in a few cases... is there some trick to setting/mounting the PCB? I didn't notice any problems when setting it, but I'm not sure why else I might have this issue. Not sure if it's relevant, but I got 67g Zealios; are they known to have a different profile for their pins or something that might cause this?
May be the same issue I was having. There's no screw in the middle/top of the PCB so inserting the switches pushes the PCB down slightly, which makes the switches not seat completely in the sockets. I left the bottom off the case when I seated the switches and pressed against the bottom of the PCB as I inserted the switches. That's really only needed for like E through I and D through K, if that. Hope that helps.
The best way to assemble the board is inserting the switches from the center and working outwards, Quake from TopClack recently did a build video and show's how to do it here:
https://youtu.be/1oIoVqhsO64?t=5149 (https://youtu.be/1oIoVqhsO64?t=5149) Hope that helps!
Im also having issue on the 6,t,g which solved by pushing method. But after using for one day it's not register again
Should i try deassemble and install the switch again but starting from center? will it help?
Post by: chief_shankaho on Fri, 16 November 2018, 07:49:25
Mine arrived today, I'm very impressed! I noticed that several of my keys are kind of flakey; some flat out don't work and others seem sort of on and off between resetting them. I followed the guide and it appears that the PCB is fine (shorting the pins verified all keys). But my switches also look okay and look like they're fully seated; also, swapping the switches from some of the working keys didn't seem to help. However, pressing the PCB in the problem areas did help in a few cases... is there some trick to setting/mounting the PCB? I didn't notice any problems when setting it, but I'm not sure why else I might have this issue. Not sure if it's relevant, but I got 67g Zealios; are they known to have a different profile for their pins or something that might cause this?
May be the same issue I was having. There's no screw in the middle/top of the PCB so inserting the switches pushes the PCB down slightly, which makes the switches not seat completely in the sockets. I left the bottom off the case when I seated the switches and pressed against the bottom of the PCB as I inserted the switches. That's really only needed for like E through I and D through K, if that. Hope that helps.
The best way to assemble the board is inserting the switches from the center and working outwards, Quake from TopClack recently did a build video and show's how to do it here:
https://youtu.be/1oIoVqhsO64?t=5149 (https://youtu.be/1oIoVqhsO64?t=5149) Hope that helps!
Im also having issue on the 6,t,g which solved by pushing method. But after using for one day it's not register again
Should i try deassemble and install the switch again but starting from center? will it help?
I wouldn't re-install all the switches. It wouldn't hurt anything but it's not really needed. Just take those 3 out, take the bottom off the case, and push up on the bottom of the PCB as you install them. I'm guessing the first time you didn't push hard enough and the switches sat enough to make contact, but it wasn't enough to keep contact after typing on them for a while.
Post by: Steerpike on Fri, 16 November 2018, 12:55:37
Mine arrived today, I'm very impressed! I noticed that several of my keys are kind of flakey; some flat out don't work and others seem sort of on and off between resetting them. I followed the guide and it appears that the PCB is fine (shorting the pins verified all keys). But my switches also look okay and look like they're fully seated; also, swapping the switches from some of the working keys didn't seem to help. However, pressing the PCB in the problem areas did help in a few cases... is there some trick to setting/mounting the PCB? I didn't notice any problems when setting it, but I'm not sure why else I might have this issue. Not sure if it's relevant, but I got 67g Zealios; are they known to have a different profile for their pins or something that might cause this?
May be the same issue I was having. There's no screw in the middle/top of the PCB so inserting the switches pushes the PCB down slightly, which makes the switches not seat completely in the sockets. I left the bottom off the case when I seated the switches and pressed against the bottom of the PCB as I inserted the switches. That's really only needed for like E through I and D through K, if that. Hope that helps.
The best way to assemble the board is inserting the switches from the center and working outwards, Quake from TopClack recently did a build video and show's how to do it here:
https://youtu.be/1oIoVqhsO64?t=5149 (https://youtu.be/1oIoVqhsO64?t=5149) Hope that helps!
Im also having issue on the 6,t,g which solved by pushing method. But after using for one day it's not register again
Should i try deassemble and install the switch again but starting from center? will it help?
For me it's the 6, 7, 8, 9, 0 and i keys. I did manage to get 0 working with a push but, like your situation, it failed again in subsequent tests. Going to try re-installing switches from the middle out tonight (after verifying again that it's not defective switches in those sockets). The board appears to be flush to the case; I'll have to double check but the structure seemed simple enough that there wouldn't be any protrusions or obstacles to hinder it from being set correctly.
Post by: nerium on Fri, 16 November 2018, 13:38:01
Post by: Perfex on Fri, 16 November 2018, 14:58:09
SA 1965, Tealios, Zeal stabs
Post by: Lisinge on Fri, 16 November 2018, 15:18:30
Since they are Kailh hot-swap sockets, would using Kailh switches result in the least amount of problems? Going to try and decide on and order my switches tonight.
No, i really don't think that is the case. The only switches you're going to have actual problems with is some outemus that comes with sockets on the legs OR desoldered switches.
Just check the legs to see that they are straight before installing each switch and if you are really pedantic then apply counterpreasure with your hand just like rama and wilba have said.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 16 November 2018, 16:28:22
Build quality of the M60 was top notch.
what switches? Looks pretty fab
Post by: beerafffe1 on Fri, 16 November 2018, 16:58:46
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Post by: Perfex on Fri, 16 November 2018, 17:02:58
Sage+CampingShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181116/7858bba39cd2ee622ea3e3f9d4642891.jpg)
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Fantastic!
Post by: mrpetrov on Fri, 16 November 2018, 17:29:21
Sage+CampingShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181116/7858bba39cd2ee622ea3e3f9d4642891.jpg)
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Very cool and unique, especially with the Ewok artisan! Do you think the stormtroopers driving the AT-ST walkers on Endor used this colorway/artisan combo in their cockpits?
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 16 November 2018, 19:41:14
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Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 16 November 2018, 21:40:08
Post by: datfroyodoe on Sat, 17 November 2018, 01:43:00
I had issues with my PCB and was immediately sent a replacement one, which worked like a charm. Even putting up a guide on how to fix the rattling weight the next day after raising the issue to him.
This is a group buy done right, a gold standard for all future organisers to follow and reference. Congrats to Rama, Kate and Wilba for putting out such a wonderful product.
KURO / Outemu Sky / GMK Laser / Grimdark Keybuto III
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Post by: pnkpanther65 on Sat, 17 November 2018, 09:29:24
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Post by: ExuDeCandomble on Sat, 17 November 2018, 09:53:50
Post by: mrpetrov on Sat, 17 November 2018, 10:14:11
I feel like I've spent more time taking pictures of this board than typing on it so farShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181117/99a2903a11f83d4d6673ee2031be259a.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181117/60697138b644d7ae3e0c3ba2369ecd61.jpg)
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Great to see one with an SA profile keycap set on it - looks fabulous and I love the high profile on it. Thanks for sharing!
Post by: kidcongo on Sat, 17 November 2018, 10:44:22
(https://i.imgur.com/deGqeCU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/y0EolP0.jpg)
Everything about this board is very well done and beautifully finished, great job by everyone involved!
Post by: schlep on Sat, 17 November 2018, 10:46:11
Post by: Clix4Clax on Sat, 17 November 2018, 11:58:59
I feel like I've spent more time taking pictures of this board than typing on it so farShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181117/99a2903a11f83d4d6673ee2031be259a.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181117/60697138b644d7ae3e0c3ba2369ecd61.jpg)
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Great to see one with an SA profile keycap set on it - looks fabulous and I love the high profile on it. Thanks for sharing!
SAMR
Post by: pendemon on Sat, 17 November 2018, 15:29:14
Post by: TestostoBoost on Sat, 17 November 2018, 16:52:01
Post by: MMKB on Sat, 17 November 2018, 17:22:25
Great job Rama. This has been perfectly executed.
Post by: jjwax on Sat, 17 November 2018, 19:48:12
I’m obsessively checking for a shipping notification, haha.
Same here, bro.
It'll be worth it!
Post by: forstsiven on Sat, 17 November 2018, 20:20:34
Post by: Perfex on Sat, 17 November 2018, 20:51:19
Not sure the right way to phrase this, but my layer 1 and layer 2/3 keys don't register. Keyboard also randomly goes unresponsive, forcing me to unplug it and plug it back in for it to be responsive.
https://rama.works/m60a-keys-not-registering (https://rama.works/m60a-keys-not-registering)
Post by: cucgach on Sat, 17 November 2018, 21:26:29
(actually, I'm crying inside for not getting the board fast enough)
Post by: siggerzz on Sun, 18 November 2018, 05:04:15
For any UK buyers, it's around £73 for customs. Once you get your waybill number, you should be able to pay here https://epayments.dhl.co.uk/ (https://epayments.dhl.co.uk/). Not sure if it'll speed the process up at all.
Thanks again Rama, looking to it!
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 18 November 2018, 06:23:30
Thank you so much for the kind words, patience and photos! Absolutely love seeing all the set / colour combinations <3
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Just had another two days of packing with Kate / Wilba and his kids helping out. I anticipate another 2 days of packing and we'll be all done!!! Going back to the warehouse tomorrow to pack some more orders with Kate.
(https://i.imgur.com/FJy5RO8.jpg)
A few orders will have boutique boxes painted by Wilba's daughter, post a pic if you get it!
(https://i.imgur.com/y13R2gR.jpg)
Also the new tape machine is helping us pack orders a lot quicker and it results in much neater packaging :)
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Don't stop posting setups :D DHL Pickup for the packages shown above is scheduled in for tomorrow morning, so most orders from that batch should arrive before the end of week ;D
Post by: vewy_nice on Sun, 18 November 2018, 07:27:41
(https://i.imgur.com/6Ffa33h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/a2sUB4e.jpg)
I was able to fix it by scraping some of the solder mask off the via near the pad that ripped off, so all is well, but others might not share my luck.
Post by: Clix4Clax on Sun, 18 November 2018, 09:19:38
Pulse x Moon
Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Sun, 18 November 2018, 10:21:31
(Attachment Link)
Great job Rama. This has been perfectly executed.
I'm drooling over this. Great shot.
Post by: bard on Sun, 18 November 2018, 10:48:21
shipping notification... received
switches................... ready
caps....................... ready
:cool:
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 18 November 2018, 10:52:49
Hey, uh... Pay attention when you install the stabilizers! (I was distracted, talking to my gf)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6Ffa33h.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/a2sUB4e.jpg)
I was able to fix it by scraping some of the solder mask off the via near the pad that ripped off, so all is well, but others might not share my luck.
:eek: Was she naked at the time? IDK how you can forget stems and stab wires too...
j/k... sorry for your loss
F
Post by: gutsack on Sun, 18 November 2018, 13:03:30
Hey, uh... Pay attention when you install the stabilizers! (I was distracted, talking to my gf)
Post by: onefivenine on Sun, 18 November 2018, 13:12:38
Post by: ttot on Sun, 18 November 2018, 13:16:00
Post by: Hokabuki on Sun, 18 November 2018, 14:12:20
Post by: mrpetrov on Sun, 18 November 2018, 14:57:30
I'm having an issue with my spacebar stab catching on some keypresses. It's like something is pinching. Any suggestions? GMK Led Zep on it with GMK screw in stabs
Try to eliminate different things to deduce the cause. First try a different profile space bar. Then try a different switch type. Then try it without a space bar on it and see if the stabs are catching something. Then try it without a switch and use some tweezers to life the stabs up and down and see if they catch. There's some suggestions before you go removing all the switches and caps - hope this helps guy.
Post by: vewy_nice on Sun, 18 November 2018, 15:10:18
Well I was putting the whole assembled 2U stab in at the time, and I had the whole thing upside down.Hey, uh... Pay attention when you install the stabilizers! (I was distracted, talking to my gf)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6Ffa33h.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/a2sUB4e.jpg)
I was able to fix it by scraping some of the solder mask off the via near the pad that ripped off, so all is well, but others might not share my luck.
:eek: Was she naked at the time? IDK how you can forget stems and stab wires too...
j/k... sorry for your loss
F
It's my first PCB that has another convenient hole right where the proper stab hole should be...
Post by: aaron6301 on Sun, 18 November 2018, 15:24:27
I'm having an issue with my spacebar stab catching on some keypresses. It's like something is pinching. Any suggestions? GMK Led Zep on it with GMK screw in stabs
Try to eliminate different things to deduce the cause. First try a different profile space bar. Then try a different switch type. Then try it without a space bar on it and see if the stabs are catching something. Then try it without a switch and use some tweezers to life the stabs up and down and see if they catch. There's some suggestions before you go removing all the switches and caps - hope this helps guy.
Yeah, it can be a be any number of things or a culmination of multiple things.
Are the stabs lubed? What switches are you using and what spring weight? Is the stab bar properly seated in the stab channel and the slider itself?
In the past, I've had issues with lighter weight springs and thicker lubed stabs (tactiles). The overall weight was a little too light to provide enough force for return.
Alternatively, I've had sticking due to the stab bar popping out of the channel.
Post by: jjwax on Sun, 18 November 2018, 21:55:07
got that shipping notification!
HYPE!
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 18 November 2018, 22:10:45
I'm having an issue with my spacebar stab catching on some keypresses. It's like something is pinching. Any suggestions? GMK Led Zep on it with GMK screw in stabs
Try pressing on the far edges of the space bar. Press one side and see if the other one pops off of the stabilizer. If that is happening, add a small square of plastic wrap between the keycap and stabilizer insert.
Post by: Hokabuki on Sun, 18 November 2018, 22:19:36
I'm having an issue with my spacebar stab catching on some keypresses. It's like something is pinching. Any suggestions? GMK Led Zep on it with GMK screw in stabs
Try to eliminate different things to deduce the cause. First try a different profile space bar. Then try a different switch type. Then try it without a space bar on it and see if the stabs are catching something. Then try it without a switch and use some tweezers to life the stabs up and down and see if they catch. There's some suggestions before you go removing all the switches and caps - hope this helps guy.
Yeah, it can be a be any number of things or a culmination of multiple things.
Are the stabs lubed? What switches are you using and what spring weight? Is the stab bar properly seated in the stab channel and the slider itself?
In the past, I've had issues with lighter weight springs and thicker lubed stabs (tactiles). The overall weight was a little too light to provide enough force for return.
Alternatively, I've had sticking due to the stab bar popping out of the channel.
The stabs are lubed, and I'm using Cherry MX silent blacks. It's only catching on the downstroke and when I press on the left half of the spacebar. The stabs seem to be securely installed. It happens with two different GMK spacebars but isn't an issue with the SA one. Not really sure how to fix it.
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Mon, 19 November 2018, 01:47:00
Lake + ff yellow + Laser
Lake appears to be much darker for me. Would go for a silver board next time.
Nice board.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181119/eedf8cb9c345cdae27316eaf67a46887.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181119/b9bef1fd741ad459fe96131704a7c29a.jpg)
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Post by: KingRama on Mon, 19 November 2018, 06:01:07
Well I was putting the whole assembled 2U stab in at the time, and I had the whole thing upside down.Hey, uh... Pay attention when you install the stabilizers! (I was distracted, talking to my gf)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6Ffa33h.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/a2sUB4e.jpg)
I was able to fix it by scraping some of the solder mask off the via near the pad that ripped off, so all is well, but others might not share my luck.
:o Was she naked at the time? IDK how you can forget stems and stab wires too...
j/k... sorry for your loss
F
It's my first PCB that has another convenient hole right where the proper stab hole should be...
OUCH! So glad you fixed it though :-* We have a guide up here which shows where the stabiliser hole locations are: https://rama.works/guides#/m60a-pcb-stab-switch-installation/ :)
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Another batch being picked up tomorrow!
(https://i.imgur.com/cBhH6OC.jpg)
One more batch and ALL orders will be shipped! On that note, there's still a lot of orders which have missing phone numbers, please check your spam folder to see if we've sent you a message regarding this. Thankyou!
Post by: Clix4Clax on Mon, 19 November 2018, 06:05:21
Loving Godspeed on the Moon!! one of my favorites yet
Post by: ReverbSlush on Mon, 19 November 2018, 14:50:39
(https://i.imgur.com/I5ER0jY.jpg)
build process was easy. using halo clears, zeal stabs (my box didn't come with stabs, but I was planning on using these anyway), Keyboard & Co. caps for now.
with the weight IT IS SO HEAVY
Post by: mrpetrov on Mon, 19 November 2018, 15:37:13
here is mine:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/I5ER0jY.jpg)
build process was easy. using halo clears, zeal stabs (my box didn't come with stabs, but I was planning on using these anyway), Keyboard & Co. caps for now.
with the weight IT IS SO HEAVY
Looks great! Is that GMK Necro?
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 19 November 2018, 16:15:48
here is mine:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/I5ER0jY.jpg)
build process was easy. using halo clears, zeal stabs (my box didn't come with stabs, but I was planning on using these anyway), Keyboard & Co. caps for now.
with the weight IT IS SO HEAVY
Looks great! Is that GMK Necro?
Quote
Keyboard & Co. caps for now.
Post by: datfroyodoe on Mon, 19 November 2018, 21:31:42
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Post by: Regret on Mon, 19 November 2018, 22:08:48
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 19 November 2018, 22:15:38
Just curious, will there be extra back weights still available to purchase?
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Yep! We'll have extras :D Just waiting to ship the final batch and wait for everyone to receive their keyboards first :)
Should be of both the back weight and internal weight!
Just got my shipping notification! So excited! It's coming this friday, but i'll be out of the country until December 1st :-[ :-[Is someone going to be able to receive it?? I think DHL can hold if on vacation by calling and quoting AWB. Or I'm not sure if shipment options are also sent to you but it's usually there as well :) Next time email me and we can hold the package here until ready to ship also :D
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also love the keyboard pics above!! definitely right that it's super heavy with the internal weight, almost irrationally so :p
Post by: Wilba on Mon, 19 November 2018, 22:53:37
also love the keyboard pics above!! definitely right that it's super heavy with the internal weight, almost irrationally so :p
I was waylaid by a French colleague leaving work on Friday night, carrying my M60-A in one hand, by the time I extricated myself from the conversation, I'd pulled a tendon in my arm...
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:00:21
KMK Labs
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:05:29
Typing test is here (https://clyp.it/a4vsphh3?token=885c79a1f2889c593cc71738f4a34ac3). Note: keyboard contains internal weight.
(https://i.imgur.com/bxKqlhI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/r4WKVRc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1phkC5D.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pHAv6Mw.jpg)
Post by: Regret on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:37:13
Just got my shipping notification! So excited! It's coming this friday, but i'll be out of the country until December 1st :-[ :-[Is someone going to be able to receive it?? I think DHL can hold if on vacation by calling and quoting AWB. Or I'm not sure if shipment options are also sent to you but it's usually there as well :) Next time email me and we can hold the package here until ready to ship also :D
Thanks for the concern Rama, one of my roommates will be here next week, so I was able to schedule for it to be delivered the following Monday. I'll have a nice present waiting for me once I get back from Japan :)
Post by: Hokabuki on Mon, 19 November 2018, 23:44:01
GMK Led Zep looks great on Kuro! Still can’t figure out the space bar stab issue so I guess I’ll put Pulse on it instead.
Post by: Zanduby on Tue, 20 November 2018, 14:56:05
My SAGE M60-A arrived some days ago, and I finally got to assemble it. The green is a beautiful color for the anodizing -- the thick, integrated plate, as I expected, is quite stiff, so typing overall has a clack-ey sound signature. It's not a bad kind of sound, but it's certainly slightly echoey. I have recorded myself typing as well. Here are some photos; enjoy! :thumb:
Typing test is here (https://clyp.it/a4vsphh3?token=885c79a1f2889c593cc71738f4a34ac3). Note: keyboard contains internal weight.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6JiIAot.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/r4WKVRc.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1phkC5D.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pHAv6Mw.jpg)
I'm drooling! Amazing board you've put together there Diego.
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 20 November 2018, 15:18:33
Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181120/e0f5ffb8cd23f0ee513c6fb4ef982f00.jpg)
GMK Led Zep looks great on Kuro! Still can’t figure out the space bar stab issue so I guess I’ll put Pulse on it instead.
That looks so cool. Looks like something out of empire strikes back to me. The stabilizer issue, you might just try another wire. You can read what I’ve found here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93812.msg2554917
Pictures down lower that help explain.
Post by: Hokabuki on Tue, 20 November 2018, 15:23:37
Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181120/e0f5ffb8cd23f0ee513c6fb4ef982f00.jpg)
GMK Led Zep looks great on Kuro! Still can’t figure out the space bar stab issue so I guess I’ll put Pulse on it instead.
That looks so cool. Looks like something out of empire strikes back to me. The stabilizer issue, you might just try another wire. You can read what I’ve found here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93812.msg2554917
Pictures down lower that help explain.
Good read. I’ll have to take it all apart and see if that’s my issue
Post by: Stagione on Tue, 20 November 2018, 16:38:42
Post by: venderzhao on Tue, 20 November 2018, 17:57:25
Post by: DJSnotBoogie on Tue, 20 November 2018, 19:52:21
I read somewhere that there is a round 2 slated for the near future. Is that correct?
There are several selling on mechmarket, but yes there’s another round coming per Rama.
Post by: siggerzz on Wed, 21 November 2018, 15:36:12
Finally got mine through, absolutely love it!
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 21 November 2018, 16:29:03
Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181120/e0f5ffb8cd23f0ee513c6fb4ef982f00.jpg)
GMK Led Zep looks great on Kuro! Still can’t figure out the space bar stab issue so I guess I’ll put Pulse on it instead.
:-* :-* sick build
Post by: G1LL3Y on Wed, 21 November 2018, 16:44:57
More photos - https://imgur.com/a/HrihBxb
Post by: voight-kampff on Thu, 22 November 2018, 04:05:01
Post by: TestostoBoost on Thu, 22 November 2018, 07:29:27
Post by: _PixelNinja on Thu, 22 November 2018, 08:29:08
still no notification I am dying :'(Had a quick exchange with RAMA last night — the final batch will be going out this weekend.
Post by: bard on Thu, 22 November 2018, 10:36:34
Moon
GMK Pristine
MX Silents (Aliaz housing, MX Silent Black stem, SPRiT 63.5g gold spring, lubed with Tribosys 3204)
EPBT stabs
RAMA TypeHype Escape
Thanks RAMA! :thumb:
Post by: a clacktical mistake on Thu, 22 November 2018, 11:59:23
All these build pictures are looking great but this is just too good!
Finally got mine through, absolutely love it!
Post by: bard on Thu, 22 November 2018, 12:06:19
Post by: Talljoe on Thu, 22 November 2018, 12:08:35
how can I put it a bootloader mode? space + b does not work :eek:
Hold down escape (top-left key) when plugging in.
Post by: bard on Thu, 22 November 2018, 12:09:31
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 22 November 2018, 12:54:06
Post by: gaunt on Thu, 22 November 2018, 14:05:23
That said, one of the switches doesn't work. I found the troubleshooting page, and determined with shorting that it's the switch and not the PCB/hotswap socket that's the issue, so I'm just going to replace it and hope for the best. However, I don't have a switch remover tool. I can obviously order one, but it seems a bit excessive to make an international order for something so small. Does anyone know if there's a way to do this without a dedicated tool? I tried pushing at both sides of the switch with some pens but that didn't work out very well.
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 22 November 2018, 14:13:44
Just got mine in Dusk. It really is beautiful, and lives up to my high expectations. I'm also getting a pretty good first impression of Box Royals.
That said, one of the switches doesn't work. I found the troubleshooting page, and determined with shorting that it's the switch and not the PCB/hotswap socket that's the issue, so I'm just going to replace it and hope for the best. However, I don't have a switch remover tool. I can obviously order one, but it seems a bit excessive to make an international order for something so small. Does anyone know if there's a way to do this without a dedicated tool? I tried pushing at both sides of the switch with some pens but that didn't work out very well.
Small flat head screwdriver. Pry the bottom edge and then the top edge while slightly pushing in on the switch. careful not to scratch the case :)
Post by: gaunt on Thu, 22 November 2018, 14:31:00
Small flat head screwdriver. Pry the bottom edge and then the top edge while slightly pushing in on the switch. careful not to scratch the case :)
Thanks a lot. It works! You just saved my day :)
Post by: Starston3 on Thu, 22 November 2018, 15:15:30
Zeal Stabs
65g Arctos
GMK Nautilus with Vim novelties
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181122/3370c8d62a79af6cbbd1cc6c9420808d.jpg)
Post by: Cas on Thu, 22 November 2018, 17:23:05
Mine arrived today, impressive, easy installation but take some work some pins bents on the aliaz silent switches, when I installed them, very happy
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 22 November 2018, 18:12:38
still no notification I am dying :'(
Final batch this weekend, so sorry you guys have had to wait, but am super keen to finally have them all out the door <3
Rama and his team have set an incredibly high standard for all future group buys. Everything about this project has been fantastic, from the communication to the quality of the product including the unboxing experience. My wallet is ready for the U80. I don't know if I can throw money at you any faster. Thanks again, Rama.
Thanks so much!! I'm incredibly lucky to be working with such a great team to bring these out to everyone! Was a long wait for all, but during the process we've learned a lot to how we can make processes more efficient and invested in tools to speed things up - we're committed to continue with providing the same experience for our future products and preorders - cheers again!
Anyone know the specs for the back weight screws? I may have lost one in my ultra shaggy carpet.
Yep! https://rama.works/guides#/m60a-internal-fixtures/
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/t/5beacde7f950b773950dd798/1542465138868/?format=2500w)
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Also keep the builds coming!! Loving all the ones so far, love the TH Red accent cap on the moon enclosure! And Lake with Nautilus is a classic, will be making on of those myself when I have some time - am addicted to getting GMK sets now >_<
Post by: distracteddev on Fri, 23 November 2018, 01:53:41
1. I've read that we need to hold escape when plugging in the PCB for it to avoid using the keymap in memory. However, it seems doing this simply puts the keyboard into DFU mode. I can also put the board into DFU mode by mapping a key to the RESET function. Is there a different between these two methods? Is there a difference between the regular DFU mode and the made that is enabled that allows the keyboard to use the custom layout vs the one from its memory?
2. If I do flash my own keymap using QMK Toolbox, will the VIA configurator cease to work?
2b. Will I need to hold escape each time I plug in my board to ensure it uses my flashed keymap instead of the one in memory?
3. Is there anyway I can read about how exactly the VIA configurator works? I've started reading through the source but I haven't quite found the logic that controls how the keymap is edited and loaded onto the keyboard. Is the configurator simply flashing a new layout onto the board or does the keyboard somehow read a config file passed to it from the configurator and then it uses that?
Sorry for the detailed questions, I'm just used to flashing my boards manually using QMK Toolbox so I'm a little confused how all of this custom configurator stuff works.
Post by: Wilba on Fri, 23 November 2018, 02:37:37
VIA Configurator uses the "dynamic keymaps" feature I added to QMK, which will let you change keymaps without needing to compile QMK. It works by storing the keymaps in EEPROM memory, i.e. memory that will persist after a power cycle, and can be changed at runtime of the firmware. The backlight settings are also stored in this memory.
VIA Configurator works by communicating over USB with the keyboard firmware, and doesn't require uploading (flashing) new firmware to change keymaps etc.
Holding Esc when plugging in USB will invalidate the stored settings in EEPROM, and also start DFU bootloader so you can upload new firmware if you want. Invalidating the stored settings in EEPROM is useful if you want to install new firmware, but a side effect is that it can restore your PCB to "factory defaults". This is because the next time the firmware runs (whether the same firmware, or new firmware), it will load new settings from the firmware into EEPROM memory.
If you want to build your own QMK firmware (because you're a power user and want full control), you will probably want to turn off dynamic keymaps by adding DYNAMIC_KEYMAP_ENABLE = no in the file rules.mk in your keymap folder, i.e. /qmk_firmware/keyboards/rama/m60_a/keymaps/blahblah This will turn off dynamic keymaps so that it will only use the keymaps you define in keymap.c and never use keymaps in EEPROM. This will mean you can't change keymaps with VIA Configurator.
If you build your own QMK firmware and don't turn off dynamic keymaps, then install new firmware, if you didn't do the Esc/power on trick, then changes to keymaps in the firmware won't get used - it will still use the keymaps that were stored in EEPROM (i.e. from a previous firmware and/or changes using VIA Configurator). If you do the Esc/power on trick, then the keymaps in EEPROM will be reset to the keymaps in the firmware.
Note that the above also applies to backlight settings, if you're changing things like colors in code, they are only the defaults that get loaded into EEPROM memory.
You can use VIA Configurator for changing backlight settings while using a custom-built QMK firmware, as long as the firmware still has the code required for communicating with the host, and hasn't drastically changed things like keycodes.
What VIA Configurator can't do (yet) is know about any user-defined keycodes you may have added to your custom built QMK firmware. It also cannot handle changes the existing keycode values, i.e. if you change the order of keycodes in QMK core code, or turn on features that change this order. We're working on making it more tolerant of these things.
TL;DR VIA Configurator and "stock" M60-A firmware caters for most user's needs, by providing you with a simple way to change up to 4 layers of keymaps and change the backlight settings, without needing to build QMK yourself and do a slow and sometimes problematic upload of new firmware.
Post by: Pragmatizm on Fri, 23 November 2018, 09:14:45
Post by: MrTq on Fri, 23 November 2018, 09:15:19
(https://i.imgur.com/NKhnaVf.jpg)
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Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 23 November 2018, 09:32:36
It seems I may have a broken PCB, a number of my keys are not working. Those keys are 6,7,8,9, Y, U. I pulled the switches on all those keys to check for bent pins and even tried fresh switches to see if they were dead switches. I was able to get 9 and U to actuate only part of the time when I pressed firmly down on the switch. This leads me to believe there is an issue with the hot swap? Any advice would be helpful.
Touch the two hot swap arms simultaneously on the back with tweezers to see if they register a keypress. This way you’ll know if it’s thr board or not. Most likely one of the switches is not going through the board and caused it to bow out so that the rest can’t be properly seated.
Post by: mrpetrov on Fri, 23 November 2018, 09:55:07
Here’s my Sage https://imgur.com/a/w52tzYq
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That's a stunning racing green! What are you going to put in/on it?
Post by: MrTq on Fri, 23 November 2018, 10:54:07
My build: Box Royal switches, GMK Camping keyset. I’m also going to put it on GMK Terminal.Here’s my Sage https://imgur.com/a/w52tzYq
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That's a stunning racing green! What are you going to put in/on it?
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Post by: up-in on Fri, 23 November 2018, 12:24:24
My build: Box Royal switches, GMK Camping keyset. I’m also going to put it on GMK Terminal.Here’s my Sage https://imgur.com/a/w52tzYq
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That's a stunning racing green! What are you going to put in/on it?
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Very nice touch! How does the Box Royal feel?
Post by: TestostoBoost on Fri, 23 November 2018, 13:52:09
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Post by: Latto on Fri, 23 November 2018, 16:19:50
Post by: ExuDeCandomble on Fri, 23 November 2018, 16:56:41
Post by: Lisinge on Fri, 23 November 2018, 16:59:17
Post by: ExuDeCandomble on Fri, 23 November 2018, 17:12:29
Holy hell! How the **** did they manage that?! I'm sure rama will sort you out though!Precisely my first thought! That's a lot of packaging to punch through. When I initially saw that the outer box was damaged I wasn't too concerned, but then I saw the inner box and was hoping that the foam inside was thick enough. Sadly I don't think any foam known to man would have been dense enough to repel whatever sharp object was forcefully jabbed into my poor keyboard 😢
Post by: inter on Fri, 23 November 2018, 22:23:11
I will post some photos when the sun is up again, but I wanted to take a minute and just repeat what everyone else has said. This is an incredible product and an extremely well run and communicated group buy. Everything from ordering and updates to tracking shipping notifications, to unboxing, building and flashing was tastefully branded and a consistently delightful experience.
This is definitely makes typing feel luxurious, thank you for producing it Rama & Co!
Post by: deterouni on Fri, 23 November 2018, 22:42:14
Post by: xondat on Fri, 23 November 2018, 23:16:58
Holy hell! How the **** did they manage that?! I'm sure rama will sort you out though!Precisely my first thought! That's a lot of packaging to punch through. When I initially saw that the outer box was damaged I wasn't too concerned, but then I saw the inner box and was hoping that the foam inside was thick enough. Sadly I don't think any foam known to man would have been dense enough to repel whatever sharp object was forcefully jabbed into my poor keyboard 😢
This looks really similar to some other ****ed up packages I've seen - most likely it was dropped onto the end of a shelf (think metal racking) that was just straight metal, and it punctured all the way through. That's what I've been telling myself at least. Sorry to see that though :'(
Post by: deterouni on Fri, 23 November 2018, 23:55:10
Overall I am extremely disappointed in the finished product and QC of the PCB. I have over 8 keys that don't register when a switch is inserted. Yes i removed the switch to make sure the pin is straight and I can jump the switch on the back with tweezers. It appears that the solder that connected the hotswap to the PCB has several issues, or the sockets themselves are bad. One would be bad but over 8 is pretty ridiculous. I can reflow them, but I wonder if I should just pursue a replacement before trying that.
I ended up reflowing the sockets anyway. That has fixed the issue it appears.
Post by: r0b1n4sale on Sat, 24 November 2018, 04:41:00
Post by: Pragmatizm on Sat, 24 November 2018, 12:47:05
Overall I am extremely disappointed in the finished product and QC of the PCB. I have over 8 keys that don't register when a switch is inserted. Yes i removed the switch to make sure the pin is straight and I can jump the switch on the back with tweezers. It appears that the solder that connected the hotswap to the PCB has several issues, or the sockets themselves are bad. One would be bad but over 8 is pretty ridiculous. I can reflow them, but I wonder if I should just pursue a replacement before trying that.
I had the same issue. Looks like im going to have to pull it apart and check all the solder points. I shouldnt have to, but it seems I have little choice.
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 24 November 2018, 14:35:50
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 24 November 2018, 14:46:43
You guys with PCB issues... if you email support you will have a new PCB in 3 days. Don't fret.I'll take your old pcb off you.
Anyone with a broken pcb that wants to get rid of it, let me know.
Post by: Lisinge on Sat, 24 November 2018, 17:08:47
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sat, 24 November 2018, 17:50:18
I'll have some better shots coming up Later.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181124/cd4d6fbeec2e4d741ba0f230ffd771e7.jpg)
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 25 November 2018, 07:13:24
Solarized Moon
Post by: ullr on Sun, 25 November 2018, 09:56:10
Never thought I'd get a use for the ten Novelias I got, but they work great for the stabilized keys - box royals elsewhere. Absolutely love the board Rama.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZqZNos7.jpg)
Post by: Lisinge on Sun, 25 November 2018, 10:53:01
Post by: jjwax on Sun, 25 November 2018, 18:55:09
Parenthood is rough sometimes... I could be building this bad boy now.....
Tomorrow though!
Post by: Ashardalon on Sun, 25 November 2018, 20:26:51
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Parenthood is rough sometimes... I could be building this bad boy now.....
Tomorrow though!
I mean, if you need to pay for your kid's stuff I can take it all of your hands...
Post by: jjwax on Sun, 25 November 2018, 22:18:47
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Parenthood is rough sometimes... I could be building this bad boy now.....
Tomorrow though!
I mean, if you need to pay for your kid's stuff I can take it all of your hands...
LOL I don't need to pay for things, I just need time!
Post by: arang on Mon, 26 November 2018, 00:04:34
(https://i.imgur.com/i4S8c1C.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sOYCoYU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WOIst3D.jpg)
Post by: Ashardalon on Mon, 26 November 2018, 00:23:30
MY SAGEShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/i4S8c1C.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sOYCoYU.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WOIst3D.jpg)
Loving the accent keys complimenting the polished brass on the back!
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Mon, 26 November 2018, 02:20:30
Post by: fishinaspacesuit on Mon, 26 November 2018, 03:12:25
Post by: jjwax on Mon, 26 November 2018, 06:46:59
What was M60-A retail?
Base started at $360+$50 shipping (no switches/keycaps)
Post by: MisterKnife on Mon, 26 November 2018, 12:51:43
What was M60-A retail?
Base started at $360+$50 shipping (no switches/keycaps)
Add 90euros if your in the eu. Import
Post by: distracteddev on Mon, 26 November 2018, 13:28:39
I guess another option is a different PCB that could fit the case but I believe it uses custom mount points
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 26 November 2018, 13:57:31
This is a long shot, but does anyone have any crazy ideas on how I could mod the PCB to support a split spacebar? I’m willing to loose the top right delete if I have to.Well you’d need to drill at least 3 holes in the pcb for each switch you plan on adding. 2 for the metal pins and one for the center stub. And that’s if you plan on clipping off the pcb mount pins. This will also only work if there aren’t any existing traces in the spots where you drill. Then you’d have to find a way to add the new switches into the matrix. Since the case is fixed layout you’d need to do some serious dremel work on the case, which could get messy really quickly.
I guess another option is a different PCB that could fit the case but I believe it uses custom mount points
Overall I wouldn’t recommend it. Honest question, why not just find a keyboard that supports split space natively? There are a lot of chances to mess this up if you don’t already know what you’re doing.
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 27 November 2018, 07:16:59
Very satisfied with this board. Is it possible for us to get a usb-c to usb-c cable like this one (https://ramaworks.store/products/rama-usb3-1-c-a-1m-cable (https://ramaworks.store/products/rama-usb3-1-c-a-1m-cable)) from you?
We'll definitely be making C-C cables in the future, most likely in the same style included with the M60-A :)
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Parenthood is rough sometimes... I could be building this bad boy now.....
Tomorrow though!
I mean, if you need to pay for your kid's stuff I can take it all of your hands...
LOL I don't need to pay for things, I just need time!
Time is the hardest thing to come by these days ??? Also, gotta see that Serika on there!!
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MY SAGE
(https://i.imgur.com/i4S8c1C.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/i4S8c1C.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sOYCoYU.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/sOYCoYU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WOIst3D.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/WOIst3D.jpg)
Amazing photos as always Arang!! Love the entire collection!!
Post by: deterouni on Tue, 27 November 2018, 07:22:08
You guys with PCB issues... if you email support you will have a new PCB in 3 days. Don't fret.
Shot off an email. Thanks for the info. I did manage to get mine working, but I am concerned long term about having an already "repaired" PCB at the start of this keyboards life. I know with some of the older group buys PCBs are impossible to find.
Post by: jjwax on Tue, 27 November 2018, 07:51:27
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Best. Board. Ever.
With that internal weight this thing is an absolute UNIT.
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 27 November 2018, 08:05:16
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Best. Board. Ever.
With that internal weight this thing is an absolute UNIT.
Oh man, yeah, the internal weight makes it irrationally heavy. Like... confusingly heavy :)) Love love love the combo with Serika!!
Post by: mbsurfer on Tue, 27 November 2018, 08:26:34
Loving the board!
MOON
Internal Weight
Lubed Vint Blacks
GMK screw in stabs lubed, clipped, and band aid modded
SA Oblivion with Hagoromo Alphas, Git Mods, and Vim caps
ETFxHWS Textbook Fugthulu
Post by: vewy_nice on Tue, 27 November 2018, 08:29:25
(https://i.imgur.com/4U41hc1.jpg)
Also, this board has converted me to a split backspace lover in like 3 days flat. I keep hitting backslash instead of backspace on my other boards now :p
I'm loving all these pictures. Definitely my favorite keyboard I have ever touched currently.
GMK Plum looks surprisingly good on Sage! (Compared to what your initial gut reaction would be)
Post by: xondat on Tue, 27 November 2018, 08:44:52
I heard crappy cell-phone picture...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4U41hc1.jpg)
Also, this board has converted me to a split backspace lover in like 3 days flat. I keep hitting backslash instead of backspace on my other boards now :p
I'm loving all these pictures. Definitely my favorite keyboard I have ever touched currently.
GMK Plum looks surprisingly good on Sage! (Compared to what your initial gut reaction would be)
Plum looks really different to the renders in this picture :eek:
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 27 November 2018, 09:12:28
GMK Plum looks surprisingly good on Sage! (Compared to what your initial gut reaction would be)
Makes perfect sense, actually.
https://www.google.com/search?q=jewel+tones
Post by: chief_shankaho on Tue, 27 November 2018, 09:24:49
Post by: pnkpanther65 on Tue, 27 November 2018, 09:26:12
How many of you guys bandaid modded the spacebar stabilizer? I bandaided the other stabs but didn't do the spacebar since the LEDs would be covered by the bandaid.I bandaided all of mine. Used white medical tape so it just dulls and diffused the LEDs a bit on the space. It's lost light sure but the thocc is worth the trade to me
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Post by: chief_shankaho on Tue, 27 November 2018, 09:31:06
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 27 November 2018, 11:13:14
I heard crappy cell-phone picture...Right? I love plum on my sage!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4U41hc1.jpg)
Also, this board has converted me to a split backspace lover in like 3 days flat. I keep hitting backslash instead of backspace on my other boards now
I'm loving all these pictures. Definitely my favorite keyboard I have ever touched currently.
GMK Plum looks surprisingly good on Sage! (Compared to what your initial gut reaction would be)
Post by: inter on Tue, 27 November 2018, 11:47:53
How many of you guys bandaid modded the spacebar stabilizer? I bandaided the other stabs but didn't do the spacebar since the LEDs would be covered by the bandaid.
I did a band-aid mod on space, but I put tiny little band-aid pieces on each side (north/south) of the led. My downstroke is still dampened though! Although with my GMK stabs I am not sure it matters but I was worried about heat.
Post by: ullr on Tue, 27 November 2018, 13:10:53
Post by: Starston3 on Tue, 27 November 2018, 15:01:11
Post by: deterouni on Tue, 27 November 2018, 15:29:07
You guys with PCB issues... if you email support you will have a new PCB in 3 days. Don't fret.
Shot off an email. Thanks for the info. I did manage to get mine working, but I am concerned long term about having an already "repaired" PCB at the start of this keyboards life. I know with some of the older group buys PCBs are impossible to find.
Wanted to update. Got a response from the email and Rama's customer service is above and beyond. This above anything gives me a great feeling about supporting him and his future projects.
Post by: Ashardalon on Tue, 27 November 2018, 18:32:20
You guys with PCB issues... if you email support you will have a new PCB in 3 days. Don't fret.
Shot off an email. Thanks for the info. I did manage to get mine working, but I am concerned long term about having an already "repaired" PCB at the start of this keyboards life. I know with some of the older group buys PCBs are impossible to find.
Wanted to update. Got a response from the email and Rama's customer service is above and beyond. This above anything gives me a great feeling about supporting him and his future projects.
He's a proper good bloke and stands behind his product, it's made me pretty confident in buying RAMA merch for the foreseeable future! Glad to hear your issue is being resolved :)
Post by: MrTq on Tue, 27 November 2018, 20:16:45
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181128/308471a0fecd369752e5d405cd985068.jpg)
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Post by: ExuDeCandomble on Tue, 27 November 2018, 20:46:03
Holy hell! How the **** did they manage that?! I'm sure rama will sort you out though!Precisely my first thought! That's a lot of packaging to punch through. When I initially saw that the outer box was damaged I wasn't too concerned, but then I saw the inner box and was hoping that the foam inside was thick enough. Sadly I don't think any foam known to man would have been dense enough to repel whatever sharp object was forcefully jabbed into my poor keyboard 😢
Wanted to offer an update on my situation as well. Rama, as you might expect, has handled it flawlessly. I'll be receiving my replacement parts soon. When my new Kuro pieces arrive, it'll be adorned with Halo Clears and GMK Pristine. Can't wait!
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 27 November 2018, 23:27:33
Does it make sense?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181128/308471a0fecd369752e5d405cd985068.jpg)
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Yep. Looks fab
Post by: pendemon on Wed, 28 November 2018, 13:20:47
Post by: nerium on Thu, 29 November 2018, 12:46:39
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 29 November 2018, 12:54:34
Anyone else notice a fair bit of rust on the four black screws on the bottom of their base? I am tempted to replace them with stainless or pvd coated screws to prevent any rust staining..
Dude, just contact support on rama's site and get new ones :)
Post by: Cas on Fri, 30 November 2018, 15:04:00
Anyone else notice a fair bit of rust on the four black screws on the bottom of their base? I am tempted to replace them with stainless or pvd coated screws to prevent any rust staining..
Me, on one clearly
Post by: voight-kampff on Wed, 05 December 2018, 02:58:25
(https://i.imgur.com/pO4k9lz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/57Xg9MR.jpg)
Post by: nerium on Wed, 05 December 2018, 08:25:24
WOW. Never have I ever spent this much money on something and had zero regrets. I am completely blown away by the entire experience.
With the exception of some minor rust on the black screws, everything was perfect.
It only took me about 30-45 minutes to put it together (and I was taking my sweet time, to make sure I didn't break any of the hot-swaps).
One thing I definitely wish I did before installing the included switches (box royals; I'll get to this in a bit) is silence the space bar stab. It is VERY loud and unpleasant. I don't really like the idea of putting bandaid pieces and other sorts of odd fabric into this gorgeous keyboard, though. I think I am going to try to use one of the greases Rama recommends to get it to quiet down a bit. I'm guessing I can do this without taking the switches out and removing the PCB from the case? If that doesn't help enough, does anyone know if the Zeal stabs are quieter without modding them? If so, are they even compatible with this board? Any recommendations or tips are much appreciated.
One thing I failed to realize.. (cause I'm a noob, lol) is that I don't have any 7u spacebars.. Every kit I ordered in the past was for use on my Poker II or Pok3r and I never needed the larger spacebar. SO.. Until I receive my GMK WoB set which is supposed to ship in February, I think I'll be ordering the ePBT BoW R2 set and hope the spacebar isn't warped to hell like the ones from R1 were. Until then, my keeb is naked.
The switches (box royals).. They are awesome! I did get some minor stress fracture lines when I tested one on a GMK 3RUN cap, and these switches are TIGHT (putting keycaps on and taking them off is extremely difficult) when I tested them on a cheap cherry profile ABS set I got from Originative years ago, but they don't appear to be cracking any keycaps that I tested them on. I think I will end up using them.
Overall, I am so glad I got in on this group buy. The fit and finish, the QC, the packaging (amazing) the communication from Rama, the fast shipping.. Everything has been SO good. This should be the gold standard for how EVERY GB should be run. Take notes, other vendors/designers/creators!
This will definitely not be my last purchase from Rama. That is for damn sure.
Please, everyone post pics! I will take some tonight when I get home if I have time, too.
Post by: Ashardalon on Wed, 05 December 2018, 15:51:11
If you have not lubed any of the stabs, I highly recommend doing so. It can be simply done with dielectric grease, or if you're feeling a big more bourgeois, you can use something like Krytox 205g2 or g0. This should help reduce a lot of the noise coming from the spacebar, and Band-Aid modding would reduce it to pretty much nill. The ePBT stabs from Taobao are almost identical to Zeal's and a third of the price, and seem to be quite popular, so I would look into those, personally.
Post by: heavyheaded on Wed, 05 December 2018, 17:42:29
One thing I definitely wish I did before installing the included switches (box royals; I'll get to this in a bit) is silence the space bar stab. It is VERY loud and unpleasant. I don't really like the idea of putting bandaid pieces and other sorts of odd fabric into this gorgeous keyboard, though. I think I am going to try to use one of the greases Rama recommends to get it to quiet down a bit. I'm guessing I can do this without taking the switches out and removing the PCB from the case? If that doesn't help enough, does anyone know if the Zeal stabs are quieter without modding them? If so, are they even compatible with this board? Any recommendations or tips are much appreciated.
One thing I failed to realize.. (cause I'm a noob, lol) is that I don't have any 7u spacebars.. Every kit I ordered in the past was for use on my Poker II or Pok3r and I never needed the larger spacebar. SO.. Until I receive my GMK WoB set which is supposed to ship in February, I think I'll be ordering the ePBT BoW R2 set and hope the spacebar isn't warped to hell like the ones from R1 were. Until then, my keeb is naked.
Nerium - regarding Zeal stabs - yes, they are quiter without modding. I usually do the bandaid but on Topclack's advice skipped it this time and the spacebar is not loud. (I still lube with superlube tho)
Also, I have R1 of ePBT BoW and my 7U spacebar fits fine (I vaguely recall the problems may have been only with the first batch from R1).
Everyone else - anyone getting a short from time to time? Once in a while I need to reconnect the USB, not sure why yet.
Post by: nerium on Wed, 05 December 2018, 18:34:37
I ordered the Krytox GPL 205 grease as well as the ePBT BoW set earlier today. I'm going to grease the current stabs and see if they're satisfactory. I'll probably order the Zeal stabs as well, but I don't plan on replacing the stabs until I eventually swap the switches out. The new MD x Invyr Holy Pandas drop in a couple days (I know, I know.. not the real OG Pandas), so I'll be hopping on that just to try them out and will swap the stabs out then. Just hoping I don't damage the hot-swaps or the PCB in the process of removing the switches.
I'm curious as to why stabs weren't more well designed.. Maybe with miniature springs underneath, or just a completely different design but with the same stem for compatibility's sake. It's crazy how noisy they can get. Makes me wish I was good at that sort of thing and had connections to source manufacturing. *cough* RAMA *cough*
Post by: ReverbSlush on Wed, 05 December 2018, 19:30:37
as far as shorting goes, I haven't to unplug/plug my keyboard it, but I have noticed that sometimes when my computer reboots it says "no keyboard recognized" unless I plug directly to the mobo USB and not the hub I'm using. Although I've never had it happen with other keyboards, I really don't think that's an M60-A issue...
Post by: voight-kampff on Thu, 06 December 2018, 12:30:03
I have one question regarding defining keymaps.
Let's say I would like to get some more layers defined. I do this with qmk, that is allright.
But will the light macros be working after I flash the kbd with my hex?
Also it is not clear if -- say i have layer 4 and 5 defined -- will the on-the-fly changing stuff working with the VIA configurator?
Or when I flash the kbd with my hex will this feature be gone?
If yes, how can I cat it back after I flashed my kbd with my hex?
thanks
Post by: Rumai on Thu, 06 December 2018, 14:26:20
Post by: KingzandBean on Thu, 06 December 2018, 20:30:28
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 09 December 2018, 01:14:14
Post by: packman86 on Sun, 09 December 2018, 11:54:10
I don't know if I'm just missing something obvious but how do you program macros using the VIA configurator?
I think that was a functionality they are still working on. I can't point to the source for where I read that, but I am pretty sure I read that somewhere on GH or Discord.
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 11 December 2018, 19:53:11
Macros are indeed coming, but it'll require a firmware update on the board itself - which should be an easy process to do and we'll write a guide up on it as well (you won't even need to open the case) :)
As for the stab mods etc, we will have some video content on our guides page in the next few weeks also!
Post by: Eldr1tch on Thu, 13 December 2018, 00:15:54
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 13 December 2018, 00:21:50
Is this or the KOYU ever getting remade? I didn't know if RAMA Works did the whole artificial scarcity thing or not.
I don't know about remade, but I do know that there are a TON of these in the wild
Post by: Eldr1tch on Thu, 13 December 2018, 00:26:40
Is this or the KOYU ever getting remade? I didn't know if RAMA Works did the whole artificial scarcity thing or not.
I don't know about remade, but I do know that there are a TON of these in the wild
True, but they are always at least 50%-70% mark up and almost ALWAYS used with "little dings that happened through shipping, totally came that way promise senpai" :))
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 13 December 2018, 00:27:50
Is this or the KOYU ever getting remade? I didn't know if RAMA Works did the whole artificial scarcity thing or not.
I don't know about remade, but I do know that there are a TON of these in the wild
True, but they are always at least 50%-70% mark up and almost ALWAYS used with "little dings that happened through shipping, totally came that way promise senpai" :))
my experience has been different but ok
Post by: Eldr1tch on Thu, 13 December 2018, 00:28:55
Is this or the KOYU ever getting remade? I didn't know if RAMA Works did the whole artificial scarcity thing or not.
I don't know about remade, but I do know that there are a TON of these in the wild
True, but they are always at least 50%-70% mark up and almost ALWAYS used with "little dings that happened through shipping, totally came that way promise senpai" :))
my experience has been different but ok
Good thing about life is that everyone has a different experience. The journey and all of that. :-*
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 13 December 2018, 00:42:57
Is this or the KOYU ever getting remade? I didn't know if RAMA Works did the whole artificial scarcity thing or not.
We always tend to release things in new editions, wouldn't be the same colours from round 1 however 8)
Post by: pnkpanther65 on Thu, 13 December 2018, 07:30:28
Couple more for the road
Post by: Kerasan on Thu, 13 December 2018, 07:45:59
Couple more for the roadShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181213/2597260c36ef93a221c2f402527d9b9d.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181213/e520ba50c6290be14a0706512a19159f.jpg)
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friend you have a really refined taste, let me say
KMK Labs.
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 13 December 2018, 19:08:47
Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181213/2597260c36ef93a221c2f402527d9b9d.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181213/e520ba50c6290be14a0706512a19159f.jpg)
Couple more for the road
This is unreasonably nice. Really love how much yolch matches with the gold accents :o :o
Post by: qq on Thu, 13 December 2018, 22:17:14
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Couple more for the road
A man of taste, too classy :eek:
Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Sat, 15 December 2018, 16:00:58
finally my moon has arrived :cool:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pO4k9lz.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/57Xg9MR.jpg)
This is too nice. Absolutely love it. Makes me really regret backing out of my spot for the m60 moon. Hoping next year is the year I get my first Rama board depending on what he has in the works.
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 20 December 2018, 16:50:33
Possibly related, but sometimes the keyboard will fail to respond to keypresses after a while without use (even though the LEDs are still on) and I need to unplug it and plug it back in for it to work.
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 20 December 2018, 17:14:15
Post by: voight-kampff on Fri, 21 December 2018, 01:34:37
I've shocked mine a few times. Just dry here. I try to discharge the static before I touch it. It usually reboots the keyboardI wonder if shocking only happens to the m60-a? Or do you have issues also with some other metallic things?
Do you have the LEDs on or LEDs off when shocking happens?
Strange is that anodisation prevents the electric flow...
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Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 21 December 2018, 09:05:30
I've shocked mine a few times. Just dry here. I try to discharge the static before I touch it. It usually reboots the keyboardI wonder if shocking only happens to the m60-a? Or do you have issues also with some other metallic things?
Do you have the LEDs on or LEDs off when shocking happens?
Strange is that anodisation prevents the electric flow...
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We’ve discussed it in the past in here and other threads. It happens on all of my metal boards. Tray mount boards deal with it better and usually don’t transfer the shock to the pcb. (You shock yourself but no reboot). It doesn’t matter if the leds are on or not. It’s just something you learn to live with if you have a lot of static buildup in your space.
Post by: pnkpanther65 on Fri, 21 December 2018, 09:07:55
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Post by: ttot on Tue, 25 December 2018, 16:27:06
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 25 December 2018, 20:07:19
Post by: gutsack on Sun, 30 December 2018, 17:21:14
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This might be the best group-buy hardware I've ever seen. It's so well made, I'm in love. For my build I went with thick-lubed 67g R1 Zilents, Pulse SA R3 Rams and Noire, and Zeal screw-in stabs. Thing is nearly silent and feels amazing to type on. Absolutely love this board, it's gonna be my daily driver for a long time to come. I built it on a livestream here: https://karbonbased.io/builds/m60-a
Post by: laserbeamspewpew on Mon, 14 January 2019, 09:03:42
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 14 January 2019, 10:04:03
My PCB has developed a problem: 5-8 (4 keys) have stopped registering. I've tried different switches, I've made sure the pins weren't bent, and there's no visible damage to the sockets as far as I can tell when I opened up the board. How can I get this addressed?
Did you try pressing the back of the socket against the PCB when pressing the firmly seated switch? If you do that and it registers, it could be that one of the hotswap metal arms has come unattached from it's surface mounted pad. You can try to reflow those pads, but it's tricky. Just email rama through the website for a replacement. He's quick to respond.
Post by: voight-kampff on Fri, 18 January 2019, 09:46:13
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 23 January 2019, 07:47:29
Post by: pnkpanther65 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 08:02:29
So anyone know what the new M60-ax pcb brings? Saw it posted on instagramNon hot swap version possibly?
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Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 23 January 2019, 08:23:57
So anyone know what the new M60-ax pcb brings? Saw it posted on instagramNon hotswap and have 2 more mount holes.
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Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 23 January 2019, 09:00:09
So anyone know what the new M60-ax pcb brings? Saw it posted on instagramNon hotswap and have 2 more mount holes.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190123/aed1096bf28e17041a2f8c5974515726.jpg)
Thanks!
Post by: Marutks on Wed, 30 January 2019, 14:17:45
Featured in this video are the new M60 finishes, MILK and HAZE, and the STEALTH EDITIONS of MOON and KURO.
I wonder what is stealth edition
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 30 January 2019, 22:39:32
Post by: ptykozoon on Wed, 30 January 2019, 23:46:25
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Thu, 31 January 2019, 00:16:21
I like the new milk color, but I'd like it w/ the gold back plate. Is my only hope to order both the keyboard and the gold back weight separately? This seems a bit superfluous. What would I do with the original backplate? Also now we're looking at a $500 keyboard. Hmm.If it's anything like r1 then, yes, that is your only option. You could try to sell the backplate on r/mm to recouperape some cost if you really wanted to.
Post by: ian13 on Thu, 31 January 2019, 04:04:10
Post by: Aerizu on Thu, 31 January 2019, 05:19:35
Will the internal silicon dampener function as a standalone alternative to the internal brass weight or is it an add-on silencer that you can install with the internal brass weight on?
It says "Cannot be used at the same time as the Internal Weight." on the product page, so I guess it's the former.
Post by: b3nkei on Thu, 31 January 2019, 05:50:27
Post by: ian13 on Thu, 31 January 2019, 06:00:08
Will the internal silicon dampener function as a standalone alternative to the internal brass weight or is it an add-on silencer that you can install with the internal brass weight on?
It says "Cannot be used at the same time as the Internal Weight." on the product page, so I guess it's the former.
Oof! Completely missed that. I was (inefficiently) skimming the product page while walking. :)) Thank you so much! :thumb:
Post by: ptykozoon on Thu, 31 January 2019, 09:48:20
Endgame 60%. Zealios v2 lubed with gmk qmx silencer and silence rings. Just fantastic all around. Thanks Rama.
i love this, its so weird but it works
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 02 February 2019, 14:47:00
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Post by: mrpetrov on Sat, 02 February 2019, 14:50:38
Any other innovations on it that people can spot?
Post by: spyruf on Sun, 03 February 2019, 16:56:39
Is there any info as to whether the U80 will be an integrated plate or not? Kinda looks like it from the Rama web page but not possible to tell for sure.Seems like it’s gonna be an integrated plate. https://rama.works/prototype/2018/8/24/u80-seq-1-pcb-m6-b-proto-lumen-proto
Any other innovations on it that people can spot?
Post by: Beatnutz on Mon, 04 February 2019, 02:06:01
I like the new milk color, but I'd like it w/ the gold back plate. Is my only hope to order both the keyboard and the gold back weight separately? This seems a bit superfluous. What would I do with the original backplate? Also now we're looking at a $500 keyboard. Hmm.
Agreed. Not only that, I now have to pay for shipping and import tax (30%) for something I don't want. I went ahead and ordered the gold backplate anyway. But the whole ordeal left a foul taste in my mouth. r/MK will be swarming with these plates so it's not going to be easy to unload it.
Post by: _PixelNinja on Mon, 04 February 2019, 02:49:07
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Mon, 04 February 2019, 13:50:28
Post by: Ashardalon on Mon, 04 February 2019, 21:44:49
Is the only difference in Kuro/Moon Stealth editions the different backplate?
Yeah, it's aluminium instead of brass.
Post by: ttot on Tue, 05 February 2019, 04:53:37
Post by: kiandelmundo on Wed, 06 February 2019, 07:22:58
Post by: Beatnutz on Wed, 06 February 2019, 13:15:11
just wondering if you any of you get heavily taxed due to the amount of the board? and how do you guys avoid that?
There's no way to avoid it unless the sender declares a very low price for the shipment. That is fraud though, and very few are prepared to do it. And in all honesty, it's hard to get away with it when this board looks the way it does. It just doesn't come across as a $40 product.
Post by: rejuvienate on Thu, 07 February 2019, 21:47:21
Post by: clik_clak on Thu, 07 February 2019, 21:48:56
Updates from RAMA on the U80! Mentioned Q2, does it mean it’s different from what Originative Stated on 2-22?
Very curious about this, too.
If the Q2 Rama is going to be better than the Oco version, I can always wait a few more months.
Post by: gnunin on Fri, 08 February 2019, 02:45:07
Post by: _PixelNinja on Fri, 08 February 2019, 03:17:12
Looking to get the Seq 2. Is the internal weight worth getting? I have great respect for the amount of work & materials Rama put in his products, but 85$ is always 85$.
I guess it depends what you value. The M60-A definitely requires some form of dampening in order to not sound hollow. The internal weight helps in that regard but it makes the keyboard ridiculously heavy relative to its size (the sides being flat making it a bit difficult to pick up add to that effect). RAMA's video wherein Kate demonstrates the installation and use of the silicone sound dampener seems to show a similar result minus the heft — I'd wait for their next video with non-silent switches to see if such is indeed the case. Finally, if you don't mind resorting to more ghetto-mod-ish means, you could always fill in the M60-A with foam, rubber, shelf-liner or what have you.
Hope this helps.
Post by: gnunin on Fri, 08 February 2019, 03:23:32
Post by: _PixelNinja on Fri, 08 February 2019, 03:50:02
What color are you going for? I'll probably pick up a SEQ2 + internal dampener at the last moment but I can't decide between a Stealth edition or MILK :confused:
Post by: gnunin on Fri, 08 February 2019, 04:11:27
Post by: Aevyn on Fri, 08 February 2019, 12:24:19
Post by: dubious on Fri, 08 February 2019, 14:26:31
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sat, 09 February 2019, 10:40:39
Super excited to receive my Seq 2. Has anyone commented on the height of the keyboard? Just wondering how it feels typing / over long term / with/without wristrest / etc.. The front of the keyboard looks a little high to me, but I'm curious how it's worked out for other people.
The dimensions :
(https://reho.st/self/8cfbb4c4b0abdd1383bbd855a58b288a69953fbc.png)
Keyboard height should not be a problem provided one has his/her desk and chair setup at an appropriate height.
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Sat, 09 February 2019, 18:40:13
Post by: KingRama on Mon, 11 February 2019, 20:40:23
Will be extras of PBT Heavy Industry?
Yep! We'll have extras available, just shipped out all the orders today! Just need to wait for people to receive them and make sure all deliveries are as expected then we can offer up the extras. Past that there will be a round 2 also for Heavy Industry :)
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Post by: ptykozoon on Thu, 14 February 2019, 10:52:28
Post by: J__T on Tue, 26 February 2019, 13:09:09
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 26 February 2019, 17:52:39
Post by: gatr on Tue, 26 February 2019, 22:58:08
Do you think the Moon version of this would look good with a Rose back weight? I'm thinking of getting an extra and I'm not sure what I'd like.
I think it looks good. Here's a pic of mine, hopefully this will help your decision!
Post by: J__T on Wed, 27 February 2019, 03:47:52
Depends on the keycaps, but yeah I think it will look good. I was between that and the gold backplate. I went gold because I think it will go with more, but I think both will look good.
I had GMK Bento in mind when I thought of this but I've also got GMK Nautilus that would probably look better with gold or the moon stealth backplate.
What were you gonna use with the gold backplate?
I think it looks good. Here's a pic of mine, hopefully this will help your decision!
Thanks gatr, that actually helps a lot!
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 27 February 2019, 11:12:21
Depends on the keycaps, but yeah I think it will look good. I was between that and the gold backplate. I went gold because I think it will go with more, but I think both will look good.
I had GMK Bento in mind when I thought of this but I've also got GMK Nautilus that would probably look better with gold or the moon stealth backplate.
What were you gonna use with the gold backplate?
I am in on Bento too but I was going to go with a much lighter colored board (PC) for it. I think I am going to put GMK Oblivion R2 on my Moon with gold backplate. I also think GMK Minimal/any BOW would look really clean.
Moon + Rose Gold Backplate + Olivia is one of my favorite keyboard combinations I've seen. Hopefully there is a R2 on Olivia at some point!
Post by: dubious on Thu, 28 February 2019, 15:54:18
Super excited to receive my Seq 2. Has anyone commented on the height of the keyboard? Just wondering how it feels typing / over long term / with/without wristrest / etc.. The front of the keyboard looks a little high to me, but I'm curious how it's worked out for other people.
The dimensions :Show Image(https://reho.st/self/8cfbb4c4b0abdd1383bbd855a58b288a69953fbc.png)
Keyboard height should not be a problem provided one has his/her desk and chair setup at an appropriate height.
thanks for that! I'd seen the dimensions, more just curious how it felt while typing. It's not a huge deal, but ~19mm is a little higher than keyboards I've used in the past and I'd rather not adjust my whole desk/chair/footrest setup if I can avoid it.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Fri, 01 March 2019, 00:42:51
Depends on the keycaps, but yeah I think it will look good. I was between that and the gold backplate. I went gold because I think it will go with more, but I think both will look good.
I had GMK Bento in mind when I thought of this but I've also got GMK Nautilus that would probably look better with gold or the moon stealth backplate.
What were you gonna use with the gold backplate?
I think I am going to do Oblivion with Hago Alphas + Gold Rama cap to match with Moon/Gold Backplate.
I just think that gold is relatively neutral, and can go with a decent bit of sets.
Post by: GiantPeach on Wed, 06 March 2019, 09:36:13
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 06 March 2019, 10:10:40
Just put in my order for the Haze hotswap and internal dampener, really excited. This will be my first build. Right now I am thinking Zilents 62g switches and GMK Hyperfuse Remix caps, hoping it will look good together. As someone who has never really participated in a keyboard group buy, how long does it usually take to ship after the group buy ends, several months I'm assuming?
In this particular case you'll probably be looking at 4 to 6 months.
Post by: GiantPeach on Wed, 06 March 2019, 10:24:17
Just put in my order for the Haze hotswap and internal dampener, really excited. This will be my first build. Right now I am thinking Zilents 62g switches and GMK Hyperfuse Remix caps, hoping it will look good together. As someone who has never really participated in a keyboard group buy, how long does it usually take to ship after the group buy ends, several months I'm assuming?
In this particular case you'll probably be looking at 4 to 6 months.
Perfect plenty of time for my wallet to recover ;D Thanks for the response :thumb:
Post by: G1LL3Y on Sat, 09 March 2019, 14:15:40
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 09 March 2019, 16:07:13
Will the SEQ2 PCBs be compatible with the original M60-A?
Yes.
Post by: TheMnBN on Fri, 15 March 2019, 21:26:54
On a side note, I'm looking for a keycap set that goes along well with the Haze colorway and I have eyes on Metropolis and Oblivion R2 right now (pretty much personal favorites more than trying to match color :P). Any recommendation would be much appreciated.
Post by: rowie on Fri, 15 March 2019, 22:35:49
Sneaked in with a last-minute order of Haze M60-A. RAMA customer support is excellent! :thumb:
On a side note, I'm looking for a keycap set that goes along well with the Haze colorway and I have eyes on Metropolis and Oblivion R2 right now (pretty much personal favorites more than trying to match color :P). Any recommendation would be much appreciated.
I as well have my eyes on Metropolis and Oblivion. With Oblivion I plan to get the monochrome with cadet hagaromo for my Milk. For now I plan to join Minimal with the Rama caps and wait for R2 Heavy Industry.
Current set available that I think will look awesome with Haze is XDA Canvas purple Wolfgang or Manfred. I’m so tempted to jump on these as well. Paired with Bauhaus, Dieter and Keyluminatti will pop on either sets. Of course this would only apply if you like XDA profile. I tend to like most profiles except DSA being the last I’d buy unless it’s from a designer I like.
Post by: TheMnBN on Sat, 16 March 2019, 00:01:45
Sneaked in with a last-minute order of Haze M60-A. RAMA customer support is excellent! :thumb:
On a side note, I'm looking for a keycap set that goes along well with the Haze colorway and I have eyes on Metropolis and Oblivion R2 right now (pretty much personal favorites more than trying to match color :P). Any recommendation would be much appreciated.
I as well have my eyes on Metropolis and Oblivion. With Oblivion I plan to get the monochrome with cadet hagaromo for my Milk. For now I plan to join Minimal with the Rama caps and wait for R2 Heavy Industry.
Current set available that I think will look awesome with Haze is XDA Canvas purple Wolfgang or Manfred. I’m so tempted to jump on these as well. Paired with Bauhaus, Dieter and Keyluminatti will pop on either sets. Of course this would only apply if you like XDA profile. I tend to like most profiles except DSA being the last I’d buy unless it’s from a designer I like.
Canvas is still as sexy as ever! But I just prefer cherry profile so it's not an easy trade off between looks and typing feels that I'm willing to make.
Also, I think hagoromo alphas with monochrome accent mods are brilliant choices to go with Milk. Though Minimal is super clean, I already have WoB to be my 'simple but also very nice' set so I will have to skip out on that (well, my wallet is also screaming :D). The tougher choice for might right now is actually between Metropolis and Oblivion.
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 27 March 2019, 06:46:26
The spacebar still has a lot of echo. I've filled the inside with sorbothane and the spacebar still echos. Not sure if echos is the right word, but I hope you get what I mean.
Post by: iEatPuppers on Wed, 27 March 2019, 07:55:36
Post by: bard on Wed, 27 March 2019, 11:44:14
How are people silencing the spacebar? Beyond the usual lube and band aid mod.
The spacebar still has a lot of echo. I've filled the inside with sorbothane and the spacebar still echos. Not sure if echos is the right word, but I hope you get what I mean.
I put a foam like here https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9yweyr/silenced_spacebar_v1/
Post by: Cybee on Mon, 13 May 2019, 20:35:03
I am looking to let go of my M60-A SEQ 2 GB spot.
Color: Milk.
With Dampener.
Anyone interested please contact me via discord.
Discord: CybeeL1 #7893
Thanks :)
Post by: energyd on Sun, 16 June 2019, 16:23:17
I think I broke the USB-C interface board...Is there a way I could buy an extra from somewhere. the extra PCB (which include the interface board) is currently sold out on RAMA's website. don't know if my only choice now is to buy a PCB for the U-80A and use the usb-c board from there?
(https://i.imgur.com/sphbGV7.jpg)
Post by: xondat on Sun, 16 June 2019, 16:32:07
Hey guys,
I think I broke the USB-C interface board...Is there a way I could buy an extra from somewhere. the extra PCB (which include the interface board) is currently sold out on RAMA's website. don't know if my only choice now is to buy a PCB for the U-80A and use the usb-c board from there?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/sphbGV7.jpg)
Maybe email Rama Works, I'm sure they have lots of extras.
You could also fix it yourself - pads look okay.
Post by: Von Steve on Thu, 11 July 2019, 13:44:52
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 11 July 2019, 23:37:09
Post by: break on Sat, 13 July 2019, 14:07:36
Post by: MacSurfy on Fri, 19 July 2019, 00:44:59
Let me know if you're interested in selling a mist or milk M60-A. Thanks!
Post by: Zephyraeon on Sat, 20 July 2019, 09:00:28
EDIT: Got one.
Post by: Shadowhunter9782 on Mon, 22 July 2019, 18:07:03
Post by: SirWalross on Sat, 03 August 2019, 06:33:24
Post by: andromeda_sect on Tue, 06 August 2019, 16:45:06
Anybody want to buy a m-60a milk?
PM’d
Post by: bricra1983 on Thu, 15 August 2019, 18:18:23
But I'm having trouble visualizing a good key cap set. So wanted to ask for your input oh wise community... so go...
Post by: dubious on Thu, 15 August 2019, 18:33:19
Just picked up one of these in SAGE!!! (hard flex)
But I'm having trouble visualizing a good key cap set. So wanted to ask for your input oh wise community... so go...
OG Dolch
Post by: Eclips4x on Tue, 17 September 2019, 14:20:19
Just picked up one of these in SAGE!!! (hard flex)
But I'm having trouble visualizing a good key cap set. So wanted to ask for your input oh wise community... so go...
Sage just fits right in with Camping... GMK or SA either one. I'm rocking this SA Camping on mine and it's just perfect.
https://imgur.com/a/iaaOdCg
Post by: asury on Sun, 22 September 2019, 03:59:00
And here's what is it looks like with the GMK Camping(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190922/5b1a4da1ce2110021fde9a91d8610799.jpg)Just picked up one of these in SAGE!!! (hard flex)
But I'm having trouble visualizing a good key cap set. So wanted to ask for your input oh wise community... so go...
Sage just fits right in with Camping... GMK or SA either one. I'm rocking this SA Camping on mine and it's just perfect.
https://imgur.com/a/iaaOdCg
Post by: kzlow on Sun, 22 September 2019, 12:27:25
Post by: Mings7 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 20:36:10
Edit: Sold
Post by: jinrawke on Wed, 09 October 2019, 12:10:44
Post by: ptykozoon on Sun, 03 November 2019, 14:29:50
Post by: FRANCO on Sun, 03 November 2019, 15:56:30
Reddit username is u/forter4
Post by: regionfree on Sun, 03 November 2019, 19:34:28
Post by: vision-quest on Sun, 03 November 2019, 21:10:25
I have a M60-A Seq2 MOON GB spot.
PM'd
Post by: regionfree on Sun, 03 November 2019, 21:11:35