[GB] DSA Dolch ISO + Expansions/DSA RGBY/DSA DOLCH Blank Sets [REFUNDING]

[vorn]

Kit 1 and 2 ordered Thanks for running this!!!

After getting more feedback from people I am reconsidering the configuration of the iso kit.
Please provide feedback as to if this configuration would be better.
it will only have one blank iso enter. the rest of the keys all have legends to complete the replica GB.

I think I'd even prefer using just the blank ISO enter. +1

[hashbaz]

This is gonna be epic.

[Matt3o]

sorry but... no red ESC?

[G.C.W.]

So the actual GB runs 'til 21th june and the expansion pack 'til 12th july?

[Larken]

ErgoDox Addon Kit - 56 keys total - Don't forget to order the tkl kit above!
 - 4x 2u GX blanks
 - 12 1.5u GX blanks
 - 20 1u GE blanks
 - 20 1u GX blanks

A full ergodox kit would be the following:

60 1u keys.
12 1.5u keys.
4   2u keys

Colors aside, these are blanks, not legended keys. There's no reason why ergodox users have to buy a blank TKL set and get a bunch of unused keys for the ergodox (and there are alot of unused keys there). It would be better if you could either offer a full blank kit with for the ergodox, or offer blanks in loose numbers.

Kit 7 is awesome though.

[Glod]

Yeah that makes me think, with all the keys the same profile, why isn't this priced by the number of blanks total for 1x 1.25x, 1.5x, 2x etc etc. Wouldn't the tenkey and ergo dox kit lower in price if the top base is successful? For example the backspace in the tkl set is the same piece of plastic as the thumb keys on ergo dox. so the price sound go lower as the tkl set improves

[Luke]

I hope we get more orders, I really want the ISO addon and RGB but $80 is quite excessive for 8 keys 

[ApocalypseMaow]

I hope we get more orders, I really want the ISO addon and RGB but $80 is quite excessive for 8 keys 

I'm sure this will jump up there now that the mock ups are out. No worries man!

Not to mention this hasn't been updated from the 18th. Might be ten times what it is now...

[Luke]

I hope we get more orders, I really want the ISO addon and RGB but $80 is quite excessive for 8 keys 

I'm sure this will jump up there now that the mock ups are out. No worries man!

Not to mention this hasn't been updated from the 18th. Might be ten times what it is now...

I hope so! I'll prosionally put my order in when I get home to bump the total up

[maxmalkav]

I'd like to have a blank ISO setup. The blank blank ISO Enter key is perfect for that, would be possible adding a blank 1.25x (short L_Shift key) and 1x blank key because of the one more key of ISO layout?

EDIT:
I reply to myself: I'm asking for Kit 5 :/

[ApocalypseMaow]

I hope we get more orders, I really want the ISO addon and RGB but $80 is quite excessive for 8 keys 

I'm sure this will jump up there now that the mock ups are out. No worries man!

Not to mention this hasn't been updated from the 18th. Might be ten times what it is now...

I hope so! I'll prosionally put my order in when I get home to bump the total up

That's the right idea!

[domoaligato]

ErgoDox Addon Kit - 56 keys total - Don't forget to order the tkl kit above!
 - 4x 2u GX blanks
 - 12 1.5u GX blanks
 - 20 1u GE blanks
 - 20 1u GX blanks

A full ergodox kit would be the following:

60 1u keys.
12 1.5u keys.
4   2u keys

Colors aside, these are blanks, not legended keys. There's no reason why ergodox users have to buy a blank TKL set and get a bunch of unused keys for the ergodox (and there are alot of unused keys there). It would be better if you could either offer a full blank kit with for the ergodox, or offer blanks in loose numbers.

Kit 7 is awesome though.

like this?

ErgoDox Kit - 76 keys total
 - 4x 2u GX blanks
 - 12 1.5u GX blanks
 - 30 1u GE blanks
 - 30 1u GX blanks

This would give you the ability to have 30 ge keys in the alpha area and 15 on each side of the standard alpha area.

I will get a quote for this and contact the users that already ordered ergodox kits today if this is what everyone wants.

[G.C.W.]

So when does this and the main order end?

[domoaligato]

I'd like to have a blank ISO setup. The blank blank ISO Enter key is perfect for that, would be possible adding a blank 1.25x (short L_Shift key) and 1x blank key because of the one more key of ISO layout?

EDIT:
I reply to myself: I'm asking for Kit 5 :/

9 keys
 - 1x ISO dcs gx RETURN Key with legends matching the DSA Dolch groupbuy mentioned above
 - 1x ISO dcs gx RETURN blank
 - 1x 1.25u gx dsa Short ansi RETURN with legends
 - 1x 1.25u gx dsa Short ansi blank
 - 1x 1.25u gx DSA shift with legends
 - 1x 1.25u gx DSA shift blank
 - 1x 1u ge \| with legends
 - 1x 1u gx \| with legends
 - 1x 1u gx BACK with legends


here is the deal with the iso kit.
I have to double check the quote I got from SP for this kit.
it comes with 1.25 blanks in the original setup.
since people already ordered kit1 in the original setup I am not going to change it.
I just need to make sure that the prices SP gave me are correct because it shows 7 keys on my quote instead of 9.

[domoaligato]

So when does this and the main order end?

From the OP
Orders Close on : July 12th
Payments to hopefully be complete around : July 26th

[domoaligato]

Please discuss the ergodox kit as I really need help/feedback with it..

[AcidFire]

ErgoDox Addon Kit - 56 keys total - Don't forget to order the tkl kit above!
 - 4x 2u GX blanks
 - 12 1.5u GX blanks
 - 20 1u GE blanks
 - 20 1u GX blanks

A full ergodox kit would be the following:

60 1u keys.
12 1.5u keys.
4   2u keys

Colors aside, these are blanks, not legended keys. There's no reason why ergodox users have to buy a blank TKL set and get a bunch of unused keys for the ergodox (and there are alot of unused keys there). It would be better if you could either offer a full blank kit with for the ergodox, or offer blanks in loose numbers.

Kit 7 is awesome though.

like this?

ErgoDox Kit - 76 keys total
 - 4x 2u GX blanks
 - 12 1.5u GX blanks
 - 30 1u GE blanks
 - 30 1u GX blanks

This would give you the ability to have 30 ge keys in the alpha area and 15 on each side of the standard alpha area.

I will get a quote for this and contact the users that already ordered ergodox kits today if this is what everyone wants.

I'd be down for this for the kits I've already ordered.

[domoaligato]

larken came up with this render and it is exactly what I had planned to offer.

it would change the kit to
 - 12x 1.5u gx blanks
 - 4x   2u   ge blanks
 - 18x 1u   gx blanks
 - 42x 1u   ge blanks


from
 - 12 1.5u GX blanks
 - 4x 2u GX blanks
 - 20 1u GX blanks
 - 20 1u GE blanks

acid does change your mind at all?
I feel bad about this because I have messed this kit up so badly due to inexperience with the ergodox but hopefully I can get it back on track quickly.

[domoaligato]

fixed the op to reflect the quote received from SP on the ISO kit 1

This might answer some of the questions in regards to blanks for iso layouts.

Kit 1
 - 1x ISO dcs gx RETURN Key with legends
 - 1x ISO dcs gx RETURN blank
 - 1x 1.25u gx dsa Short ansi RETURN with legends
 - 1x 1.25u gx dsa Short ansi blank
 - 1x 1.25u gx DSA shift with legends
 - 1x 1.25u gx DSA shift blank
 - 1x 1u ge \| with legends
 - 1x 1u gx \| with legends
 - 1x 1u gx BACK with legends

[Glod]

Yeah that makes me think, with all the keys the same profile, why isn't this priced by the number of blanks total for 1x 1.25x, 1.5x, 2x etc etc. Wouldn't the tenkey and ergo dox kit lower in price if the top base is successful? For example the backspace in the tkl set is the same piece of plastic as the thumb keys on ergo dox. so the price sound go lower as the tkl set improves

please respond to this

i dont understand why you can getting quotes for different "sets"

DSA is all the same profile and you are just ordering blanks.

you could purchase everything by the units

# x 1x
# x 1.25 x
# x 2x

etc etc


you still have to sort them individually anyway, SP does not presort.

[domoaligato]

because if I supply kits then I just pre-sort the kits and then distribute them.
if I allowed piece by piece ordering then it will take forever to sort and keep track of. (more sorting errors)

edit : also set 1 the iso kit is mostly keys with legends.

[Glod]

because if I supply kits then I just pre-sort the kits and then distribute them.
if I allowed piece by piece ordering then it will take forever to sort and keep track of. (more sorting errors)

i was under the impression that SP doesn't sort kits.

it just seems wrong the ergodox price is jacked up even though you are going to sell hundreds of 1x and 1.5x units and the 2x is the same as a backspace and those also are going to be sold.

[domoaligato]

because if I supply kits then I just pre-sort the kits and then distribute them.
if I allowed piece by piece ordering then it will take forever to sort and keep track of. (more sorting errors)

i was under the impression that SP doesn't sort kits.

it just seems wrong the ergodox price is jacked up even though you are going to sell hundreds of 1x and 1.5x units and the 2x is the same as a backspace and those also are going to be sold.

If the ergodox kit changes to the proposal above then customers that wish to buy keys for there ergodox  will have to buy less keys overall and will end up spending less money and not end up with tons of extra keys they do not need.

Do you agree with the set change above for the ergodox would end up being beneficial to the ergodox users?

[Matt3o]

i was under the impression that SP doesn't sort kits.

sure they sort kits!

[Glod]

because if I supply kits then I just pre-sort the kits and then distribute them.
if I allowed piece by piece ordering then it will take forever to sort and keep track of. (more sorting errors)

i was under the impression that SP doesn't sort kits.

it just seems wrong the ergodox price is jacked up even though you are going to sell hundreds of 1x and 1.5x units and the 2x is the same as a backspace and those also are going to be sold.

If the ergodox kit changes to the proposal above then customers that wish to buy keys for there ergodox  will have to buy less keys overall and will end up spending less money and not end up with tons of extra keys they do not need.

Do you agree with the set change above for the ergodox would end up being beneficial to the ergodox users?

i like the ergodox kit update and it looks correct, im just extremely worried about cost. i have dramatically reduced income right now but i really want this and the one with legends so im really frustrated.

i was under the impression that SP doesn't sort kits.

sure they sort kits!

now i know, and knowledge is power.

[AcidFire]

Show Image

larken came up with this render and it is exactly what I had planned to offer.

it would change the kit to
 - 12x 1.5u gx blanks
 - 4x   2u   ge blanks
 - 18x 1u   gx blanks
 - 42x 1u   ge blanks


from
 - 12 1.5u GX blanks
 - 4x 2u GX blanks
 - 20 1u GX blanks
 - 20 1u GE blanks

acid does change your mind at all?
I feel bad about this because I have messed this kit up so badly due to inexperience with the ergodox but hopefully I can get it back on track quickly.

Not at all, looks good to me!

[domoaligato]

I am going to send this new proposal to SP and get a new quote for the ergodox kit.
I will send PM's to everyone that ordered them asking if they want order changes.

[maxmalkav]

Order submitted, I really hope the prices get a bit down before the close up date
Blanks are my best bet since getting proper national layout is impossible in my case. BTW, very thankful to find some love for ISO!

[elton5354]

I'm surprised blanks aren't that much cheaper than doubleshots.  Is it possible to combine the TKL set with KIT 5 like in the original GB?

[boost]

Order filled, really hope we hit lower tiers

[domoaligato]

Order filled, really hope we hit lower tiers

if we do not hit to lower tiers I will extend it.
I will review and update the counts now.
I have been busy answering pm's and questions about ergodox all morning

Edit: current orders.... updated post 2 with bolds to reflect
Kit 1 11
Kit2 19
Kit 3 17
Kit 4 8
Kit 5 17
Kit 6 9
Kit 7 14
Kit 8 13

[ApocalypseMaow]

I just noticed on Kit2 that you have double 1.25x mods? Is there anyway to get those extra ones made in 1x for some of the weird 75% and G80-1865s.
Like this

and this future 75% bottom row set up
1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1 - 1 - 1- 1 - 1 - 1
1.50 - 1 - 1.50 - 6.00 - 1 - 1 - 1- 1 - 1 - 1
1.50 - 1 - 1.50 - 7.00 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1
1.50 - 1.50 - 7.00 - 1.50 - 1.50 - 1 - 1 - 1

[Binge]

orderform filled, you money stealing money stealer!  )

[domoaligato]

ergodox updated to the complete kit

Kit 6 - Ergodox Addon                     
1         $471.06
5         $117.96
10         $73.83
15         $59.11
25         $47.34
50         $38.52
75         $35.57
100         $34.10
150         $32.63
200         $31.90
250         $31.45

[boost]

This GB needs more attention!!!

[domoaligato]

I have updated the OP/Descriptions and pricing for the ergodox kit and PM'd all people that have ordered the previous configuration.
Please PM me if you need to make order changes based on this.

[Glod]

dude that ergo dox set is expensive as hell. especially considering i am getting the redline set with legends and only need the modifiers.

im probably going to drop, i doubt this will drop below $50

i wish you offered just the blanks individually for the 10key and ergodox kits to reduce the cost.

[domoaligato]

I just noticed on Kit2 that you have double 1.25x mods? Is there anyway to get those extra ones made in 1x for some of the weird 75% and G80-1865s.
Like this

Show Image

and this future 75% bottom row set up
1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1 - 1 - 1- 1 - 1 - 1
1.50 - 1 - 1.50 - 6.00 - 1 - 1 - 1- 1 - 1 - 1
1.50 - 1 - 1.50 - 7.00 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1
1.50 - 1.50 - 7.00 - 1.50 - 1.50 - 1 - 1 - 1

I have duplicate 1.25x mods in the rgby kit?
it has 1.25 bottom row mods for Control, ALT, Win, Menu, FN
you get to decide if you use menu or FN

 - 2x 1.25u Red CONTROL
 - 2x 1.25u Blue ALT
 - 1x 2.25u Green SHIFT
 - 1x 2.75u Green SHIFT
 - 2x 1.25 Yellow WIN
 - 1x 1.25u Yellow MENU
 - 1x 1.25u Yellow FN
 - 2x 1.5u Red CONTROL
 - 2x 1.5u Blue ALT
 - 1x 1u Yellow WIN
 - 1x 1u Yellow MENU
 - 2x 1u Yellow FN
 - 1x 1.25u Green SHIFT - Pure short right SHIFT
 - 1x 1.75u Green SHIFT - short left SHIFT

[domoaligato]

dude that ergo dox set is expensive as hell. especially considering i am getting the redline set with legends and only need the modifiers.

im probably going to drop, i doubt this will drop below $50

i wish you offered just the blanks individually for the 10key and ergodox kits to reduce the cost.

please wait for the counts to get up higher before you decide.
This thread has only been live for 1 day.

[bazemk1979]

dude that ergo dox set is expensive as hell. especially considering i am getting the redline set with legends and only need the modifiers.

im probably going to drop, i doubt this will drop below $50

i wish you offered just the blanks individually for the 10key and ergodox kits to reduce the cost.

lol dude give it a time, even though OP says sweet spot for this GB should be 50 per set, I think its possible to reach 75 per set, give it a time.

[ApocalypseMaow]

I just noticed on Kit2 that you have double 1.25x mods? Is there anyway to get those extra ones made in 1x for some of the weird 75% and G80-1865s.
Like this

Show Image

and this future 75% bottom row set up
1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1 - 1 - 1- 1 - 1 - 1
1.50 - 1 - 1.50 - 6.00 - 1 - 1 - 1- 1 - 1 - 1
1.50 - 1 - 1.50 - 7.00 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1
1.50 - 1.50 - 7.00 - 1.50 - 1.50 - 1 - 1 - 1

I have duplicate 1.25x mods in the rgby kit?
it has 1.25 bottom row mods for Control, ALT, Win, Menu, FN
you get to decide if you use menu or FN

 - 2x 1.25u Red CONTROL
 - 2x 1.25u Blue ALT
 - 1x 2.25u Green SHIFT
 - 1x 2.75u Green SHIFT
 - 2x 1.25 Yellow WIN
 - 1x 1.25u Yellow MENU
 - 1x 1.25u Yellow FN
 - 2x 1.5u Red CONTROL
 - 2x 1.5u Blue ALT
 - 1x 1u Yellow WIN
 - 1x 1u Yellow MENU
 - 2x 1u Yellow FN
 - 1x 1.25u Green SHIFT - Pure short right SHIFT
 - 1x 1.75u Green SHIFT - short left SHIFT

I'm blind....  :-[
Sorry about that.

[Glod]

dude that ergo dox set is expensive as hell. especially considering i am getting the redline set with legends and only need the modifiers.

im probably going to drop, i doubt this will drop below $50

i wish you offered just the blanks individually for the 10key and ergodox kits to reduce the cost.

lol dude give it a time, even though OP says sweet spot for this GB should be 50 per set, I think its possible to reach 75 per set, give it a time.

im making judgement based on how many ergodox actually exist and how many of those are on geekhack.

[domoaligato]

This group buy has also been posted on DT as well.

[bazemk1979]

dude that ergo dox set is expensive as hell. especially considering i am getting the redline set with legends and only need the modifiers.

im probably going to drop, i doubt this will drop below $50

i wish you offered just the blanks individually for the 10key and ergodox kits to reduce the cost.

lol dude give it a time, even though OP says sweet spot for this GB should be 50 per set, I think its possible to reach 75 per set, give it a time.

im making judgement based on how many ergodox actually exist and how many of those are on geekhack.

we have a whole month ahead of us, looking at the begging prices of the RGBY makes me dizzy, but either way I filled the form and see what happens in a month. If there are not enough orders and everything stays expensive OP will understand why people dropped from the GB. Place the order and see what happens in a month, that's the point of GB you join for the better and see how it pans out.

[chaosstep]

Hello, domoaligato

Do you have any plan to include off-center stemmed caps lock for Cherry User?

[domoaligato]

Hello, domoaligato

Do you have any plan to include off-center stemmed caps lock for Cherry User?

I wanted to but the tooling cost was crazy.

[domoaligato]

If it makes some people feel a little better, these are the counts after only one day.

[tsangan]

Hello, domoaligato

Do you have any plan to include off-center stemmed caps lock for Cherry User?

I wanted to but the tooling cost was crazy.

Go ask OTD for permission, Matteo got the permission before

[domoaligato]

Hello, domoaligato

Do you have any plan to include off-center stemmed caps lock for Cherry User?

I wanted to but the tooling cost was crazy.

Go ask OTD for permission, Matteo got the permission before

k... in progress... wish me luck

[bazemk1979]

sorry but... no red ESC?

OP red Esc as add on to the RGBY set would be nice