[IC] NovelPro - A New Keycap Profile from NovelKeys

[dvorcol]

These will be dye sub (at least the first round), right?  Can you offer an alternative legend color – for example, black – to broaden the audience?  I personally want to test out your new profile, but wouldn't use the current legend color long-term.  But a grey & black color scheme at work would be perfect.

Anyway, great work!

[mgsickler]

These will be dye sub (at least the first round), right?  Can you offer an alternative legend color – for example, black – to broaden the audience?  I personally want to test out your new profile, but wouldn't use the current legend color long-term.  But a grey & black color scheme at work would be perfect.

Anyway, great work!

Not dyesub - doubleshot. The render wasnt a colorway, it was just to show off the font.

First colorway will be a neutral set.

[Techno Trousers]

Diubleshot ABS, right?

[mgsickler]

Diubleshot ABS, right?

Most likely. With talking to the injection molding places, they all say that ABS would be the best way to go.

[dvorcol]

Diubleshot ABS, right?

Most likely. With talking to the injection molding places, they all say that ABS would be the best way to go.

These will be dye sub (at least the first round), right?  Can you offer an alternative legend color – for example, black – to broaden the audience?  I personally want to test out your new profile, but wouldn't use the current legend color long-term.  But a grey & black color scheme at work would be perfect.

Anyway, great work!

Not dyesub - doubleshot. The render wasnt a colorway, it was just to show off the font.

First colorway will be a neutral set.

Double-shot ABS in a neutral colorway - all great news!

[Darknight00z]

Where are we with this?

[Mangaboy5398]

This still in the works?

[mgsickler]

Definitely still in the works.

Hope to have some more news in April-May.

[oldcat]

Lets get this project going!

[Mangaboy5398]

Definitely still in the works.

Hope to have some more news in April-May.

Thanks! Will be looking forward to it!

[dr_unconscionable]

Glad to hear the gears are still turning on this! Looking forward to hearing more

[Jaycob_Creighton]

I'm interested in these

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[G1LL3Y]

Any chance this new profile could also incorporate a TMX stem for both Cherry and Topre?

[mgsickler]

Any chance this new profile could also incorporate a TMX stem for both Cherry and Topre?

Unfortunately not. While its a good use and fit for artisans, our main worry is splitting the stem would cause the keycaps to have structure issue with extended use.

[TuCZnak]

Looking at the renders, is this basically SA in Cherry height? If so that would be glorious, love the SA look and spherical top but can't stand how tall they are. This would be right up my alley ;-)

[mgsickler]

Alright. Pretty decent update here.

Here are some updated renders (we are still working on a couple things, such as some of legend thickness). We are using Gotham Rounded as the font. Slightly modified to make sure everything can be injection molded. Here is a comparison of different profiles home row - SA, KAT, Cherry. https://imgur.com/a/jfVlPk5
 
This render is our idea of a full kit (including some duplicate keycaps).


Side profile.


Alternate Angle



Full Kit Suggestions.
* We know there are some keys missing. With that said I think we can add up to 5 keycaps to try to help out with compatibility.
* I have already been asked to a 1.25 key to the home row.
* ISO support is not planned at this time, but possibly down the future.
* I have also been asked to change C row Control to maybe function. Please let me know what you all think.
* We are also aiming to do this in doubleshot POM. My manu says that this shouldnt be an issue for them.

Next Steps
* Finalize Kit
* Get complete Accurate Quote from my manufacturer
* Get 2 keycaps made - "A" and "Caps Lock" to make sure that my manu can do the quality and detail that this project needs.

[dr_unconscionable]

Super exciting update! Thanks! Looks great so far.

[crykn]

I'll definitely be interested to see what doubleshot POM is like, admittedly I don't know a ton about POM. These keycaps look great, and I second having Function instead of Ctrl for the alternate tab key. Also, I know it was mentioned a while ago, but split spacebars would be cool if it's easy.

[Jae-3soteric]

Love to see new profiles being made available, and Def keen to try a set of this when it becomes available

[Zilleon]

I'm so sad we won't get Colevrak kits for this T_T

[mgsickler]

I'm so sad we won't get Colevrak kits for this T_T

It would be just an insane amount of extra cost.

[oh_chesteroni]

Fantastic update, Mike!

[Woovie]

Looking great, I'll note my 1.25u left shift request here for anyone else as well who wants this niche key in the future.

[dr_unconscionable]

While we're wishlisting here, I would also love to see a 1.25u shift, as well as a home row 1.25u Tab/Caps and a 1.75u Enter (or even just R3 blanks for these?). These are the keys I'm constantly missing when trying to fit sets onto some of my 40-50% boards. (That said, I understand that they're fairly niche, compared to the other keys)

[ptiede]

Doubleshot POM! That is very interesting. Super excited to try this. Compat looks good for me.

[Techno Trousers]

How does POM wear over the long haul? ABS type shininess or...?

[Bubblegum]

No ISO makes me sad

[romevi]

No ISO makes me glad (:

[nasp]

No Ergo/Assembly support either, but perhaps in the future? I understand you are just trying to get this project off the ground right now.

[xondat]

Extra navigation keys are very generous, not sure I've seen that much support all in one kit

[TuCZnak]

Looking great, I'll note my 1.25u left shift request here for anyone else as well who wants this niche key in the future.

Agreed, if ISO enter won't be a thing then at least do the split left shift, that one extra key is way more important for all the European layouts.

[mwahlig]

Oof those renders look great. No Planck support tho


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[mgsickler]

Oof those renders look great. No Planck support tho


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Been talking to Cole from Woodkeys. We are going to add a C row "Up" and 2 C Row blanks to the kit.

[KaosJ]

What colors will be available? (please not the showed colors in the render). 

Anyway i would actually prefer arrows instead of "down, left..."

[mgsickler]

What colors will be available? (please not the showed colors in the render). 

Anyway i would actually prefer arrows instead of "down, left..."

Colors are still a ways away from being decided, but the first colorway will be more soft than loud. 

We are just going to use text based for all keycaps, and not use any type of icons right now.

[oldcat]

Will for sure support this profile, seems quite ideal for me. Please move this forward

[wrongshoe]

Excited about this.

How well does POM take colors compared to ABS and PBT?

[The_Royal]

Excited about this.

How well does POM take colors compared to ABS and PBT?

Im not 100% sure, but I think some Gateron Stems, maybe all Cherry-MX stems, are made of a type of POM.

So If you think about all the nice a vibrant, as well as muted, colors we have in our switches,  I would say POM takes color very well. 

That is, to say, if my previous statement is correct.

[KaosJ]

What colors will be available? (please not the showed colors in the render). 

Anyway i would actually prefer arrows instead of "down, left..."

Colors are still a ways away from being decided, but the first colorway will be more soft than loud. 

We are just going to use text based for all keycaps, and not use any type of icons right now.

Make sense.
Regarding colors, please just don't go for the white alphas and grey mods.  Excited as well!

[mgsickler]

How does POM wear over the long haul? ABS type shininess or...?

From what I’ve read, POM does not shine or wear nearly as quick as ABS.

Excited about this.

How well does POM take colors compared to ABS and PBT?

Im not 100% sure, but I think some Gateron Stems, maybe all Cherry-MX stems, are made of a type of POM.

So If you think about all the nice a vibrant, as well as muted, colors we have in our switches,  I would say POM takes color very well. 

That is, to say, if my previous statement is correct.

That is correct! POM should be able to do a variety of colors with no issues.

[fer.real]

Very exciting!  A row C Function key to replace Caps Lock would definitely sell me.

[EightDiagram]

Can we get that 6u spacebar with offset stem?

[macclack]

I wonder why more keysets aren't made from POM.

[dallman5]

POM is dope, color me interested. 

Any chance for a row B or C 'Up' key? I think MT3 offered something similar and I know the Realforce TKLs are like this since it makes the arrow cluster more comfortable on a TKL and/or full-size. 

[sevenseacat]

As another Colemak user, I'm a bit disappointed but I'm still excited to see the update!

Blanks would fit the bill so we could use the profile, just sayin'

[mwahlig]

Oof those renders look great. No Planck support tho


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Been talking to Cole from Woodkeys. We are going to add a C row "Up" and 2 C Row blanks to the kit.

Nice! That'll help fill out a Planck a bit more.

Do you think a complete Planck kit will be offered in the future (including C raise/lower, D enter/shift, C esc, B tab, 2u space, etc)?

Really looking forward to trying these out, great work!

[the_high_5]

Profile looks great!

Probably a long shot, but would a 40s child kit be possible?

[Tom_Kazansky]

Full Kit Suggestions.
* We know there are some keys missing. With that said I think we can add up to 5 keycaps to try to help out with compatibility.
* I have already been asked to a 1.25 key to the home row.
* ISO support is not planned at this time, but possibly down the future.
* I have also been asked to change C row Control to maybe function. Please let me know what you all think.
* We are also aiming to do this in doubleshot POM. My manu says that this shouldnt be an issue for them.

- I think the current kit is fine for the first run. But in the future, please add 2.25u, 2.75u, 1.25u (blank, -convex- C row) keys for split-spacebar.
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- please leave C row Control for HHKB layout (I really don't know how many people would use C row Function)
- I have never touched a POM set before, I'm eager to try this set. 

[mgsickler]

Nice! That'll help fill out a Planck a bit more.

Do you think a complete Planck kit will be offered in the future (including C raise/lower, D enter/shift, C esc, B tab, 2u space, etc)?

Really looking forward to trying these out, great work!

I need to figure out exactly how many keys need to be added for Ortho support. I think it could be a worth while kit add on, especially when I look at DSA Milkshake Ortho kits sold.

Give me some time to figure out how many keycaps are needed for Ortho.

[Marutks]

This looks great!   I like flat bottom row keycaps.   Your keycaps look similar to MT3.   Are they better than MT3?   I guess doubleshot POM is better than PBT?

Please leave Control key on row C.  It is very popular location for Control key.
When this set will be available?