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Title: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: westfoxtrot on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:05:40
Group Buy is now live: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=116192

Date has changed please see below: March 4 - March 25

From the ashes rises Phoenix!
Featuring a beautiful curved side profile, Phoenix evokes a feeling of elegant luxury.

The board features a carefully thought out ground-up implementation of a sandwich gasket mounting system. It has been engineered to keep the typing feel not only consistent across the whole board but also make it one of the most pleasant experiences in keyboards.


(https://imgur.com/EuYym9S.png)(https://imgur.com/dSHTwNb.png)(https://i.imgur.com/bzKmzpD.jpg)
Photo credit @thinkkwer (https://www.instagram.com/thinkkwer/)

TL;DR – please fill in this form (https://forms.gle/Jy5HuJVbAZT81Beb7)

Key Features

Note about the weights: they are approx due to limited access to precision scales, some private owners measure it at 4.1, some at 3.9 so consider it ~4kg rather than dead on

Group Buy Details

Here is an excellent set of photos by the excellent @thinkkwer (https://imgur.com/a/uVgVLHj)

Please consider this post a living document, I am currently in the process of finalising all arrangements with vendors and factories so dates and pricing will be updated as soon as I can.

In testing and amongst the private buy participants I’ve found people tend to prefer poron gaskets so that will be the default gasket material. If we get a sufficient volume of orders I intend to also include a set of silicone gaskets for a slightly firmer feel.
The PCB that comes with the kit will be customised though it is compatible with a.88 PCBs with daughterboard support.
Gaskets and feet are both custom cut for this board, there is a large AliExpress store that sells similar sized feet that will work down the line if you are unable to source your own. Though I will release the files for the gaskets as those are specific for this board.

Options

Vendors
Here is a list of the retailers with their respective prices and regions. There are no regional restrictions outside of where a store can normally ship to, please buy from whichever vendor is best for you! Anything not completed will be updated ASAP

RegionRetailer & LinkRegional priceNotes
Europemykeyboard.eu (https://mykeyboard.eu/)TBD
USAMekibo (https://mekibo.com/)TBD
CanadaApexKeyboards (https://www.apexkeyboards.ca/)TBD
OCEDaily Clack (https://dailyclack.com/)TBD
SingaporeHex Keyboards (https://hexkeyboards.com/)TBD
East Asiakibou.store (https://kibou.store/)TBD
Indonesiapluskb (https://discord.link/pluskb)TBD
UKKeebCats (https://keebcats.co.uk/)TBD

Due to the ongoing complications of the pandemic an exact timeline is hard to nail down, I would be hopeful everything can be manufactured and shipped in around 6-9 months. Though once we have a better idea of the volume of boards it will be easier to get a better timeline to share.

Plate files will be made available in my github plate repository once production files are confirmed.

Here is an exploded view
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/610843527554793493/896818084160098355/unknown.png?width=800&height=705)

If you have any questions or comments about the case/pcb/buy etc. please ask here or by any of these contact methods: Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/user/Amthe/), Geekhack (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104294.0), email (http://mailto:max@cablecardesigns.co), discord (https://discord.gg/5GHFAtb).
I am most available on discord but will try to get back to you in a reasonable timeframe any way you reach out.

Thank you for your time

– Max

Additional links:
Soundtests pastelink (https://pslk.net/i70bbp9e)
Github on Effective Keyboard Height (https://github.com/Croktopus/effective-keyboard-height)

Thanks to:
Private Round buyers for their invaluable feedback
Morgana for an exceptional logo design
Kwerdenker/thinkkwer for being an extremely attractive human being
Lewis Flude for being an S-Tier proofreader
Everyone who was so enthusiastic to see the board come to life
you for reading the thanks section

Edit notes:
added weight to feature list
added EKH
added exploded view
added UK vendor
added pricing
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: of_sam on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:06:34
King ****.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: kk73715 on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:07:17
:pogchamfer:
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: The0rigina1 on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:07:36
reserved
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Ella on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:07:47
TKL
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: NRbigfoot on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:08:02
Phoenix looks so good Max
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: terrad on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:08:08
Yes

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Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: rookb on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:09:49
Give
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Yuray on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:12:11
The Swan evolved into a Phoenix. So excited for this!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Sensetrigger on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:12:41
Finally! Good luck with that.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Gvalch_ca on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:13:27
Looked at the thread name
Thought that this board will be the same as Prophet and Angel but in TKL size
Saw that it is just an isolation mount board
Disappointment was immeasurable and day was ruined
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: goya_dechi on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:15:13
IC form filled, can't wait. Best of luck Max!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: kiyoboard on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:15:37
I have been following this on Discord. Happy that IC for it started finally. And thanks for trying to make it unlimited and open for a month. Looking forward to the GB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: PeppyToad on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:17:09
Let's go ;D

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Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: namidettje on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:20:34
Frog TKL , Mr Suit TKL , Angle TKL , Cloudline TKL (and others whom I forgot) and now this.

My wallet can't take this any longer u_u

Pretty interesting, will await for sound tests but looks like a banger!

GLWIC



Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: gautema on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:24:36
Finally it’s happening  :cool:

Board of the year for me
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: westfoxtrot on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:24:51
Quote from: Gvalch_ca on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:13:27
Looked at the thread name
Thought that this board will be the same as Prophet and Angel but in TKL size
Saw that it is just an isolation mount board
Disappointment was immeasurable and day was ruined

turns out I can do more than 1 thing

Quote from: namidettje on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:20:34
Frog TKL , Mr Suit TKL , Angle TKL , Cloudline TKL (and others whom I forgot) and now this.

My wallet can't take this any longer u_u

Pretty interesting, will await for sound tests but looks like a banger!

GLWIC





Knew I forgot something, added a sound test section to collect these. Thanks
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: fortaye on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:25:14
This keyboard ran in July. Should be shipping soon. https://mechvault.net/products/phoenix-keyboard-kit

Phoenix was named after reviving the JD45 layout for the Phoenix45. A lot of people were asking ProjectCain for a premium version. So he ran the Phoenix. Aluminum case with beautiful brass weight. I thought you should know. Gl with gb!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:26:46
Yoooo, this is it chief. Glad to see the IC drop. Max #1 A-OK
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: westfoxtrot on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:30:17
Quote from: fortaye on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:25:14
This keyboard ran in July. Should be shipping soon. https://mechvault.net/products/phoenix-keyboard-kit

Phoenix was named after reviving the JD45 layout for the Phoenix45. A lot of people were asking ProjectCain for a premium version. So he ran the Phoenix. Aluminum case with beautiful brass weight. I thought you should know. Gl with gb!

was not aware of this - thanks for the info!
Title: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: vi0till on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:32:11
I dont usually like black color, but with brass bottom, black is super nice.

Any chance for half plate option?

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Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Puree on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:33:37
 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: mini_ninja_64 on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:44:37
UwU
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: ZavaZ86 on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:56:02
Max so lit
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Exluna on Fri, 08 October 2021, 10:02:52
Mmm very nice.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: actress on Fri, 08 October 2021, 10:06:12
Damn, great job.
Really hope it's unlimited. Would you consider half plate option for this, or is it not possible ?
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: peaceperfection on Fri, 08 October 2021, 10:20:05
Can't wait for it! Hope it's unlimited similar to Prophet and Angle. Bought almost all of your boards so far!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: whirlwind on Fri, 08 October 2021, 10:30:59
I love you Max.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: westfoxtrot on Fri, 08 October 2021, 10:39:46
Quote from: peaceperfection on Fri, 08 October 2021, 10:20:05
Can't wait for it! Hope it's unlimited similar to Prophet and Angle. Bought almost all of your boards so far!

Thanks for the support <3

Quote from: actress on Fri, 08 October 2021, 10:06:12
Damn, great job.
Really hope it's unlimited. Would you consider half plate option for this, or is it not possible ?

Definitely will, please add it in to the IC form and if there's demand for it I will do my best to accommodate
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: bert039 on Fri, 08 October 2021, 10:40:38
It's cool, man, got red bottoms on
Life is good
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: lewisflude on Fri, 08 October 2021, 11:04:43
An absolutely beautiful, elegant keyboard by one of the best designers in the hobby. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Gvalch_ca on Fri, 08 October 2021, 11:09:28
Quote from: westfoxtrot on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:24:51
turns out I can do more than 1 thing

Sure you can. But pin mount TKL would be awesome! Please consider it as you future project.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Finite on Fri, 08 October 2021, 11:43:23
Quote from: fortaye on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:25:14
This keyboard ran in July. Should be shipping soon. https://mechvault.net/products/phoenix-keyboard-kit

Phoenix was named after reviving the JD45 layout for the Phoenix45. A lot of people were asking ProjectCain for a premium version. So he ran the Phoenix. Aluminum case with beautiful brass weight. I thought you should know. Gl with gb!

Yeah, although the name isn't copyrighted, I still think it's a bit of a problem to name a keyboard the same as another one that already exists. I hope this one gets renamed so that there won't be any misunderstandings or confusion, but I won't blame the OP since it's obviously just an oversight on their part.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: c0d3r on Fri, 08 October 2021, 11:52:23
I AM ALL IN!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: mmayhem17 on Fri, 08 October 2021, 13:42:18
:eggplant:

Enviado de meu SM-G780G usando o Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Fri, 08 October 2021, 13:48:41
looks very based
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: lewisflude on Fri, 08 October 2021, 14:26:11
Quote from: Finite on Fri, 08 October 2021, 11:43:23
Quote from: fortaye on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:25:14
This keyboard ran in July. Should be shipping soon. https://mechvault.net/products/phoenix-keyboard-kit

Phoenix was named after reviving the JD45 layout for the Phoenix45. A lot of people were asking ProjectCain for a premium version. So he ran the Phoenix. Aluminum case with beautiful brass weight. I thought you should know. Gl with gb!

Yeah, although the name isn't copyrighted, I still think it's a bit of a problem to name a keyboard the same as another one that already exists. I hope this one gets renamed so that there won't be any misunderstandings or confusion, but I won't blame the OP since it's obviously just an oversight on their part.

Phoenix (TKL) actually predates Phoenix (40%) by around a year. A private GB ran in February of this year. I can’t foresee any misunderstandings here.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: pngu on Fri, 08 October 2021, 15:36:22
Quote from: lewisflude on Fri, 08 October 2021, 14:26:11
Quote from: Finite on Fri, 08 October 2021, 11:43:23
Quote from: fortaye on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:25:14
This keyboard ran in July. Should be shipping soon. https://mechvault.net/products/phoenix-keyboard-kit

Phoenix was named after reviving the JD45 layout for the Phoenix45. A lot of people were asking ProjectCain for a premium version. So he ran the Phoenix. Aluminum case with beautiful brass weight. I thought you should know. Gl with gb!

Yeah, although the name isn't copyrighted, I still think it's a bit of a problem to name a keyboard the same as another one that already exists. I hope this one gets renamed so that there won't be any misunderstandings or confusion, but I won't blame the OP since it's obviously just an oversight on their part.

Phoenix (TKL) actually predates Phoenix (40%) by around a year. A private GB ran in February of this year. I can’t foresee any misunderstandings here.

I think you're forgetting about fabled designer PhoenixStarr here, the inventor of the FRL TKL. I see a very real risk here with regards to people mistaking this keyboard for a person and then being disappointed when the door rings and all they get is a keyboard, and one with an F row at that!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Gnome on Fri, 08 October 2021, 15:38:44
Keybirb.
The asymmetry on the screwholes are driving me crazy.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: westfoxtrot on Fri, 08 October 2021, 15:46:08
Quote from: Gnome on Fri, 08 October 2021, 15:38:44
Keybirb.
The asymmetry on the screwholes are driving me crazy.

It's very deliberate in order to help the mounting system whilst being able to maintain the overall design language.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: _rubik on Fri, 08 October 2021, 15:51:40
Interested, but I'll have to circle back with feedback once I've digested it. Looks nice on first glance though
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Zurg Eon on Fri, 08 October 2021, 15:58:00
Very interested! Thank you for trying to make it unlimited
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Gnome on Fri, 08 October 2021, 16:05:50
Quote from: westfoxtrot on Fri, 08 October 2021, 15:46:08
Quote from: Gnome on Fri, 08 October 2021, 15:38:44
Keybirb.
The asymmetry on the screwholes are driving me crazy.

It's very deliberate in order to help the mounting system whilst being able to maintain the overall design language.

I understand there's a reason for it. It's a very clean looking board so the asymmetry really sticks out like a sore thumb to me.
Speaking of mounting system, any exploded renders available?
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Ustinj on Fri, 08 October 2021, 17:42:55
beautiful and unique, excellent all around ... i've always loved this board's unique silhouette
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Kinesiologist on Fri, 08 October 2021, 20:46:48
yes please, im ready
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: bert039 on Fri, 08 October 2021, 22:48:54
Quote from: Ustinj on Fri, 08 October 2021, 17:42:55
beautiful and unique, excellent all around ... i've always loved this board's unique silhouette

Now that you mentioned it I can't unsee it. Is there a way to hide the center screws? Love the bottom of the board but the asymmetry stains it.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: bananathock on Fri, 08 October 2021, 23:00:40
YAY! I'm so happy! Thank you westfoxtrot for bringing us another wonderful keyboard!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: lewisflude on Sat, 09 October 2021, 05:38:44
Quote from: bert039 on Fri, 08 October 2021, 22:48:54
Quote from: Ustinj on Fri, 08 October 2021, 17:42:55
beautiful and unique, excellent all around ... i've always loved this board's unique silhouette

Now that you mentioned it I can't unsee it. Is there a way to hide the center screws? Love the bottom of the board but the asymmetry stains it.

The screw placement is done in the same way as the TGR Jane V2. This is quite common to fit around board internals.

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5bebd8e2e17ba3e740c03a6d/1548722045125-DTMNOLT6CTIJ8CJAVVYX/DSC06370-Edit.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: stidal on Sat, 09 October 2021, 06:46:28
man, that back is something else. super clean :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: The0rigina1 on Sat, 09 October 2021, 08:12:35
Quote from: Finite on Fri, 08 October 2021, 11:43:23
Quote from: fortaye on Fri, 08 October 2021, 09:25:14
This keyboard ran in July. Should be shipping soon. https://mechvault.net/products/phoenix-keyboard-kit

Phoenix was named after reviving the JD45 layout for the Phoenix45. A lot of people were asking ProjectCain for a premium version. So he ran the Phoenix. Aluminum case with beautiful brass weight. I thought you should know. Gl with gb!

Yeah, although the name isn't copyrighted, I still think it's a bit of a problem to name a keyboard the same as another one that already exists. I hope this one gets renamed so that there won't be any misunderstandings or confusion, but I won't blame the OP since it's obviously just an oversight on their part.
You don't think the TKL in the title would've given it away?
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Jacki on Sat, 09 October 2021, 17:47:10
I'm so ready for that brass bottom
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Dragonhunt on Sun, 10 October 2021, 01:34:28
The red is just too good.
I wish you could anodize brass so you get the heft and colour.

Do you already know how heavy the 2 versions will be?

If the red alu is too light i might try to think of a way too add weights myself.
And afterwards find a way to cover the screw holes which can't be unseen once you notice it  ;D.

Looking forward to see the pricing on it.

Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Branno on Sun, 10 October 2021, 02:43:15
nut
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: HugoChowsky on Sun, 10 October 2021, 02:51:54
Is this board available in WK?

Oops sorry. I clearly didn't read the entire post. Sorry.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: dmatx1 on Sun, 10 October 2021, 03:54:59
Quote from: Dragonhunt on Sun, 10 October 2021, 01:34:28
Do you already know how heavy the 2 versions will be?

Quote
built brass base is 4.5kg and the alu is around 2.5 less so likely around 2kg
From Discord

Full aluminum board is very-very far from being light :)
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: sirieous on Sun, 10 October 2021, 11:57:14
Board sounds lovely. Keen to get in on the public run  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: dantambok on Sun, 10 October 2021, 12:04:20
great work Max!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: westfoxtrot on Sun, 10 October 2021, 13:10:50
Quote from: dantambok on Sun, 10 October 2021, 12:04:20
great work Max!

 :D

Quote from: dmatx1 on Sun, 10 October 2021, 03:54:59
From Discord

Full aluminum board is very-very far from being light :)

Added approx weights to the first post!

Quote from: sirieous on Sun, 10 October 2021, 11:57:14
Board sounds lovely. Keen to get in on the public run  :D

you're my hero

Quote from: HugoChowsky on Sun, 10 October 2021, 02:51:54
Is this board available in WK?

Oops sorry. I clearly didn't read the entire post. Sorry.

Yes it is! Kwerdenker only had a WKL version for his photo shoot

Quote from: Dragonhunt on Sun, 10 October 2021, 01:34:28

Do you already know how heavy the 2 versions will be?


Added to the first post

Quote from: Ustinj on Fri, 08 October 2021, 17:42:55
beautiful and unique, excellent all around ... i've always loved this board's unique silhouette

 :eek: TYSM

Quote from: Gnome on Fri, 08 October 2021, 16:05:50
I understand there's a reason for it. It's a very clean looking board so the asymmetry really sticks out like a sore thumb to me.
Speaking of mounting system, any exploded renders available?

Sorry for the delay, got locked out of fusion  :-X. Added to the first post  :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Qwapa on Mon, 11 October 2021, 07:33:11
Very interested in this board!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: ai06L on Mon, 11 October 2021, 08:19:49
this is hot
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Whale_algorithm on Mon, 11 October 2021, 13:51:09
This looks nice. Would it be technically feasible to make the bottom screws hidden like a keycult no 2, or to use an offset USB port?
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: westfoxtrot on Wed, 13 October 2021, 06:18:27
Quote from: Whale_algorithm on Mon, 11 October 2021, 13:51:09
This looks nice. Would it be technically feasible to make the bottom screws hidden like a keycult no 2, or to use an offset USB port?

This design element was intentional. The TKL form factor is inherently asymmetrical, and the exterior screws mirror the internals of the keyboard. This functionalist design decision is a part of the mounting system and the private round/prototyping has shown it be an effective part of the design
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Vorge on Wed, 13 October 2021, 11:05:18
I cant unsee the screws but I cant unsee how beautiful it looks either. Gonna definitely grab one. GLWGB
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: mikestah on Thu, 14 October 2021, 13:38:34
Take my moneys!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: niorob on Thu, 14 October 2021, 17:47:21
Very beautiful board, will definitely be trying to pick one of these up!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: bananathock on Fri, 15 October 2021, 22:41:54
you got this max!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Coquelox18 on Sat, 16 October 2021, 02:16:14
i love tkls so much and this is great :D
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Mandabanker007 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 09:28:06
Great looking weight design
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: westfoxtrot on Sat, 04 December 2021, 05:37:26
Pricing target has been added to the first post - sorry for the delay on getting this included I wanted to be sure it was as accurate and fair as possible.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: herbologist on Sat, 04 December 2021, 09:39:25
Gorgeous. Brass pricing is incredible.

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Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sat, 04 December 2021, 23:34:47
It is 12:22 am on December 5 2021 and i am looking at an aluminum and brass rectangle that is a well priced luxury keyboard.  I do not have enough money to buy it

Another bad night for me   Sleep well everyone
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Surefoot on Sun, 05 December 2021, 07:39:07
I'll definitely get one. Full brass base looks promising.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: mr_fro2000 on Sun, 05 December 2021, 07:48:33
Finally, a Max TKL.. looks amazing!  GLWS!
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: ephemeral25 on Sun, 05 December 2021, 14:16:27
I have yet to try a nice implementation of sandwich gasket mount.

This is probably my best bet.

Looks good so far :thumb:

I don't think the Alu version is well priced for an Unlimited run, maybe you don't want that many people to join IDK. The premium asked for the brass option makes a lot more sense all together and this would probably the option I will go for.

More photos would also be nice (sides and usb part of the board) to have a better overall idea.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: noorejji on Sun, 05 December 2021, 14:18:48
Will the red alu look like the bottom case in the OP? With all alu will the bottom color match the top case? Will the alu plate be the same color as the top case?
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Diggidy on Fri, 10 December 2021, 06:36:24
.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Hawksmoor on Sun, 12 December 2021, 06:53:56
Is the production version of mechstudio’s mk88 the same as that in Kwerdenker's photo's.
Like with multi layout: F12 and F13. 7U and 6.25U?

Could i also ask the thickness of the PCB? Is it 1.6 or 1.2mm?



Thanks
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: Whale_algorithm on Thu, 23 December 2021, 10:45:50
Quote from: Diggidy on Fri, 10 December 2021, 06:36:24
I will admit I don't love the bottom logo of the board - 

I tend to agree with you. I would prefer a smaller logo engraving
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: actress on Fri, 24 December 2021, 13:16:58
I'm also not crazy about the weight design to be honest. Will try to get one brass bottom unit anyway because I'm really liking the curves and sound profile of the board.
Also thank you for trying to do unlimited units.
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: J_Noes on Fri, 24 December 2021, 20:52:29
It’s so tempting but would prefer a tkl with a split plate
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: LMarci on Mon, 27 December 2021, 17:07:49
Nice and clean design, will definitely get a unit
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: westfoxtrot on Tue, 11 January 2022, 04:10:08
Quote from: Hawksmoor on Sun, 12 December 2021, 06:53:56
Is the production version of mechstudio’s mk88 the same as that in Kwerdenker's photo's.
Like with multi layout: F12 and F13. 7U and 6.25U?

Could i also ask the thickness of the PCB? Is it 1.6 or 1.2mm?



Thanks

The Production version will be tailored specifically for this board. F13 only and 7U only at the moment

1.6mm

Quote from: Diggidy on Fri, 10 December 2021, 06:36:24
I will admit I don't love the bottom logo of the board - it looks kind of cheesy to me - but overall I really like the aesthetics of the board and will likely be in for a brass bottom.

To confirm, a hiney 88 w/ db will be compatible?

Yes the hineybush 88 pcb is compatible with the daughterboard added and USB removed

Quote from: noorejji on Sun, 05 December 2021, 14:18:48
Will the red alu look like the bottom case in the OP? With all alu will the bottom color match the top case? Will the alu plate be the same color as the top case?

The red alu is this colour. With a full aluminium board you can choose to have the 3 parts different colours or matching
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: lewisflude on Tue, 11 January 2022, 04:17:58
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Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: noorejji on Tue, 11 January 2022, 10:06:38
Quote from: westfoxtrot on Tue, 11 January 2022, 04:10:08
Quote from: noorejji on Sun, 05 December 2021, 14:18:48
Will the red alu look like the bottom case in the OP? With all alu will the bottom color match the top case? Will the alu plate be the same color as the top case?

The red alu is this colour. With a full aluminium board you can choose to have the 3 parts different colours or matching
Thanks for clarifying.

Quote from: lewisflude on Tue, 11 January 2022, 04:17:58
Quote from: ephemeral25 on Sun, 05 December 2021, 14:16:27
I have yet to try a nice implementation of sandwich gasket mount.

This is probably my best bet.

Looks good so far :thumb:

I don't think the Alu version is well priced for an Unlimited run, maybe you don't want that many people to join IDK. The premium asked for the brass option makes a lot more sense all together and this would probably the option I will go for.

More photos would also be nice (sides and usb part of the board) to have a better overall idea.

This seems a little passive aggressive to me (saying maybe he doesn't want many people to join). The pricing is incredibly fair for the quality of the design for both alu/brass. We've seen multiple unlimited GBs go above the $700-800 mark in recent times. Maybe I'm misinterpreting. ;D

If you want something with great price/performance value, can I recommend: https://oceanusbrass.com/products/raw-brass-block (https://oceanusbrass.com/products/raw-brass-block)
Your post definitely comes off as snide, so what’s the point in pointing out something as perhaps being passive aggressive?
Title: Re: [IC] Phoenix - a TKL by Cable Car Designs
Post by: westfoxtrot on Tue, 25 January 2022, 04:35:29
Updated first post - change of date