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Offline some1ab

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[IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 12:31:45 »
EINS

Hello, my name is Some1Else and I am here to present my first public keyboard design:






Eins is my take on an "endgame" 60 percent keyboard. It features a curved, seamless side profile, a clean screwless bottom, and an ultra low front height and usb port. Eins combines many of the design elements that I have found tasteful throughout my journey in the hobby, but also reflects some of the details that I have yearned for in a 60.

Prototype Photos:






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Specs
Top mount
Ultra-low 16.5mm front height (using a ledge)
6 degree typing angle
Seemless and screwless
H60 PCB and daughterboard by Hiney


Plate:
 


Side Profile:




GB Details
The GB will be run by Keyboard Development Group (Hineybush).
GB date: TBA
# of units: 50-100
Price: TBA
Turnaround: 6-8 months from sale date
Colors: TBA
Layout: likely WKL

*I understand that this is not a lot of info, and I will try announce more as soon as I have it.


There will be a build stream within the month!

In the meantime, please feel free to join my Discord Server and Hiney's Server to keep up with the project. Also feel free to follow me on Instagram.

Thank you for reading!
« Last Edit: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:59:51 by some1ab »

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 12:33:57 »
yoo nice

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 12:40:10 »
This looks great!
100% approved.
GLWIC

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 12:40:18 »
Where is your "ultra-low front height" measured from? Will this support ISO? What aluminium do the case and plate use?

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 12:40:27 »
Looks nice, GLWIC!

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 12:44:52 »
nice curves i like it

Offline some1ab

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 12:49:27 »
Where is your "ultra-low front height" measured from? Will this support ISO? What aluminium do the case and plate use?

Front height is measured as shown https://i.imgur.com/2tJG267.png. Unfortunately there will not be ISO support due to the nature of the H60 PCB. Case and plate are 6063 aluminum for the prototype and will likely be for the buy as well.

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:04:00 »
Where is your "ultra-low front height" measured from? Will this support ISO? What aluminium do the case and plate use?

Front height is measured as shown https://i.imgur.com/2tJG267.png. Unfortunately there will not be ISO support due to the nature of the H60 PCB. Case and plate are 6063 aluminum for the prototype and will likely be for the buy as well.
FYI, plates should be made from 5000 series alu, not 6xxx series


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Offline Rafa_n

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:13:41 »
what makes the keyboard itself "high-end" except for the part where the term is used to try to justify a high price?

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:18:20 »
I didn’t mention this, but your front height should be measured from the inner ledge on the top case to the feet level. This looks a lot more like 20mm


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Offline Qwapa

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:21:26 »
The curve oh the weight is very clsssy!

Offline stewfayew

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:24:37 »
The front and back andromeda curves look cool. I like the low front height.

I can't figure out how one could know for certain the price of 1 board, but not 50-100.
Are you waiting on quotes for other materials or...? You certainly have a range, no?

And how does this post check our interest? Are you going to gauge interest by the number of reply comments? Page views? Instagram profile views?

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:25:47 »
what makes the keyboard itself "high-end" except for the part where the term is used to try to justify a high price?

just looking at the board, the machining does not look simple. Curves are expensive. Expensive machining usually equates to 'high end'

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:25:55 »
Where is your "ultra-low front height" measured from? Will this support ISO? What aluminium do the case and plate use?

Front height is measured as shown https://i.imgur.com/2tJG267.png. Unfortunately there will not be ISO support due to the nature of the H60 PCB. Case and plate are 6063 aluminum for the prototype and will likely be for the buy as well.
I believe the latest H60 revisions do support ISO, at least the last GB round hiney did had it according to his website listing. I also agree with paul about the plate alloy, i'd like seeing 5 series for the plate.
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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:37:39 »
Am a fan of the design,  do not like the seam less part .
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Offline some1ab

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:42:14 »
Where is your "ultra-low front height" measured from? Will this support ISO? What aluminium do the case and plate use?

Front height is measured as shown https://i.imgur.com/2tJG267.png. Unfortunately there will not be ISO support due to the nature of the H60 PCB. Case and plate are 6063 aluminum for the prototype and will likely be for the buy as well.
I believe the latest H60 revisions do support ISO, at least the last GB round hiney did had it according to his website listing. I also agree with paul about the plate alloy, i'd like seeing 5 series for the plate.

It appears that you are right. Was going off the listing on Hiney's store. Will consider adding an ISO option to the plate for the GB if there is enough interest.

Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:47:18 »
GLWIC! Looks good  :thumb:

Offline some1ab

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:50:36 »
Where is your "ultra-low front height" measured from? Will this support ISO? What aluminium do the case and plate use?

Front height is measured as shown https://i.imgur.com/2tJG267.png. Unfortunately there will not be ISO support due to the nature of the H60 PCB. Case and plate are 6063 aluminum for the prototype and will likely be for the buy as well.
FYI, plates should be made from 5000 series alu, not 6xxx series


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Thanks for letting me know. I wasn't aware that most people used 5xxx for the plate material. Will edit this for the GB.

Offline some1ab

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 13:58:59 »
I didn’t mention this, but your front height should be measured from the inner ledge on the top case to the feet level. This looks a lot more like 20mm


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If measured like this the front height is just under 16.9mm

Offline MoarCoffeePlzzz

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 14:04:31 »
A young and talented designer in the space. Glad to see how smooth your first buy went and the progression between designs. Good luck buddy!

Offline sub0001

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 14:13:12 »
Looking nice - GLWIC! Please consider offering WK top option  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 14:25:29 »
I see them blockers. GLWIC!

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 14:50:39 »
Subtle curves all around. Nice!
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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 18:03:20 »
curves boutta make me act some type of way :eyes:

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 19:54:14 »
Where is your "ultra-low front height" measured from? Will this support ISO? What aluminium do the case and plate use?

Front height is measured as shown https://i.imgur.com/2tJG267.png. Unfortunately there will not be ISO support due to the nature of the H60 PCB. Case and plate are 6063 aluminum for the prototype and will likely be for the buy as well.
FYI, plates should be made from 5000 series alu, not 6xxx series


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says who/since when? I've never seen 5k series preferred or at least mentioned, really.

excited to get KDG going with Eins!

Offline SE7EN_ate_NINE

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 02 January 2022, 20:16:25 »
Love the design. WK option please.

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 03 January 2022, 05:16:02 »
Wonder if the mounting point in spacebar will make it feel uneven

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 04 January 2022, 21:09:03 »
Sleek!
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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 04 January 2022, 21:13:21 »
looking so clean some1!!

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 05 January 2022, 01:51:25 »
Top mount
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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 05 January 2022, 04:14:21 »
Love how this looks! Great work

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 05 January 2022, 14:11:18 »
very nice looking board, curves look really nice and the finishing appears to look good on the proto. will alu be the only plate material?

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 05 January 2022, 14:36:23 »
Curves are nice.  Great work

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 05 January 2022, 19:19:52 »
very nice looking board, curves look really nice and the finishing appears to look good on the proto. will alu be the only plate material?

It will likely be alu + one other material.

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 00:46:05 »
Love the curves of this board! :D Looking forward to this

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 03:31:09 »
Those curves are stunning

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 07:45:01 »
Where is your "ultra-low front height" measured from? Will this support ISO? What aluminium do the case and plate use?

Front height is measured as shown https://i.imgur.com/2tJG267.png. Unfortunately there will not be ISO support due to the nature of the H60 PCB. Case and plate are 6063 aluminum for the prototype and will likely be for the buy as well.
FYI, plates should be made from 5000 series alu, not 6xxx series


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says who/since when? I've never seen 5k series preferred or at least mentioned, really.

excited to get KDG going with Eins!

Seems a preference thing, I use 5052 since its a bit softer and more flexible than 6063 but in most IC's, I tend to not even see the plate alu material grade mentioned
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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 08:33:06 »
Where is your "ultra-low front height" measured from? Will this support ISO? What aluminium do the case and plate use?

Front height is measured as shown https://i.imgur.com/2tJG267.png. Unfortunately there will not be ISO support due to the nature of the H60 PCB. Case and plate are 6063 aluminum for the prototype and will likely be for the buy as well.
FYI, plates should be made from 5000 series alu, not 6xxx series


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says who/since when? I've never seen 5k series preferred or at least mentioned, really.

excited to get KDG going with Eins!

Seems a preference thing, I use 5052 since its a bit softer and more flexible than 6063 but in most IC's, I tend to not even see the plate alu material grade mentioned
I missed hineys comment but..I’ve been grilled about it previously. And to be fair it does make complete sense. Sure it’s still stiff but there is a noticeable difference between the two when on a plate.

Bad idea for cases. Great for plates.


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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 09:19:50 »
Love me some wkl 60%, GLWIC!

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 13 January 2022, 04:14:15 »
Very promising! Not sure how, but the aesthetic reminds me of a high end pen. Definitely interested and looking forward to the sound test. GLWIC!

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 13 January 2022, 11:54:44 »
NE WK Avail?

I do like the board overall, sucks that it's very limited. Looking at the quantity this might be closer to 500$.

Wish this had slimmer side bezels rather than symmetrical ones.

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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 13 January 2022, 13:09:48 »
seems like my fingers would get prints all over that nice weight. nice curves though :thumb: glwic!
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Re: [IC] EINS | A High-End Top Mounted 60
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 25 January 2022, 08:47:28 »
what makes the keyboard itself "high-end" except for the part where the term is used to try to justify a high price?

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