Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 12:15:50
There will be new improvements based on the feedback I have received.
General information and price of the keyboard. Prices excludes shipping and PayPal fees:
TKL Keyboard USD 590
1. Case will be top mounted, 6063 aluminum - t5 (top and bottom casing)
2. Brass weight - Sandblasted
3. Typing angle at 7-8 degrees
4. Silver aluminium universal switch plate
5. QMK PCB - USB C daughterboard (Via ready)
6. Keyboard box
7. Colours - Aluminium anodizing (Please refer to the colour combos below)
Weight of unbuild keyboard plus PCB is approximately 4.3kg. Do note shipping will be considerably more versus Nebula since this is a hefty board.
Additional parts：
1. PCB USD 40
2. Brass switch plate - Sandblasted USD 35
3. Brass stripes - Sandblasted USD 20
Colour options:
1. Silver Top + Silver Bottom + Brass Stripes (+10 USD more for the stripes upgrade)
2. Carbon Top + Carbon Bottom + Brass Stripes (+10 USD more for the stripes upgrade)
3. Silver Top + Cyan Bottom + Cyan Stripes
4. Silver Top + Lavender Bottom + Lavender Stripes
5. Carbon Top + Orange Bottom + Orange Stripes
6. Grey Top + Red Bottom + Red Stripes
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/772171392397344868/Untitled.png)
Order form: https://forms.gle/S5rgD6ZKPEssvaBt5
Raffle results will be announced by 7 Nov 2020 or earlier.
Invoices will be billed in Singapore Dollars (SGD, based on bank rates as of 1 Nov 2020).
GB will start now and end 07 Nov 2020 (or when 100 units are ordered). Limited to 100 orders based on raffle results.
Delivery - given the uncertainty and how screwed up the world is, I set a buffer period of 6 - 8 months after initial down payment to the manufacturer (targeted 15 Nov 2020).
In the event it is completed early, it will be shipped out immediately once shipping invoice is paid for.
Contact:
Feel free to contact me here or via discord at Okonomiyaki#2832
Current numbers: 200/200. Heartfelt thanks to all that supported.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 12:17:19
1. Added 4 pad cut outs on the bottom.
2. Changed the moon logo to the one used in China round 1 group buy.
3. PCB undergoing design changes, connection of daughter board will be via JST SH connectors.
4. PCB changed to USB C.
5. Cable route recess on bottom case.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 12:17:33
Top view:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/727000229404213278/78ebb0a46a5a0a26.jpg?width=1986&height=1116)
Back view (do note the brass logo will the same as the picture below):
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/727000230167576677/525746bbb59695ec.jpg?width=1986&height=1116)
Exploded view:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/727000305526505522/5e15de20417b4af1.png)
New PCB:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/731160023954358322/-7529c33d14dfc9e0.jpg?width=1488&height=1116)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/731160042279010416/-19e1dd72c9a81363.jpg?width=822&height=1116)
USB C:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/772151988376567808/5e930960b55fe35.png)
Cable routing for JST SH connector:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/772151990225862656/-6b8863ab28cd7def.jpg?width=2325&height=1073)
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 12:18:05
Carbon + Orange with Brass stripes:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/727000163796647946/20180913_020841.jpg)
Silver + Green with Green stripes (not offered this time):
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/726999792772972544/3a0abe3936428892.jpg)
Grey + Red with Red stripes
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/726999780408033362/-440e0c7bf6c7d4bf.jpg?width=837&height=1116)
Silver + Silver with Brass stripes:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/726999780009574521/-45e30f7c3be0935.jpg)
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 12:23:10
1. Pricing of the keyboard has been updated accordingly to the quote from the manufacturer. Since anodization is done by a new setup in-house (same as Nebula) it is costlier.
2. Non-transferring of spots. I will not entertain any transfer of spots due to the rampant flipping of spots in this hobby.
3. 50/100 slots will be given automatically to past supporters of my projects as well as my friends. The remaining 50 will be via raffling.
4. I will be updating all progress here and in my discord. https://discord.gg/nHVqZ7fr3K
5. Feel free to contact me in discord.
Shipping:
Do note that shipping to USA will be approximately USD 60, Canada around USD 80. Rest of Asia / World will be advised.
I will invoice the exact shipping cost when I am ready for shipment.
Do note this is just a ballpark amount. Prices will be updated when it is ready to be shipped.
Billing and invoicing:
1. I am collecting in SGD as PayPal imposed an additional surcharge of 3% for checking out payments to US bank accounts (offshore for me)..
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 12:23:18
Lavender for reference:
(https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/FNLcOdf-OsofLfi_EOkZhqCEEPPcqwzZRnf0vi5ytx0/https/i.imgur.com/QBkiDQx.jpg?width=1998&height=1117)
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:09:47
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Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:10:18
Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:12:04
Post by: directheatedtriode on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:13:05
Post by: Vadurr on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:18:11
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:18:53
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:22:19
Is r2 pcb compactible with R1 Case?
The first PCB was directly soldered to the daughter board which in my honest opinion is super clunky.
Too many PCB RMAs arises from that.
This round it will be JST SH connectors, which requires routing at the bottom case for cabling space.
I don't think r2 PCB is suitable for r1 boards due to space constraints.
Post by: Themonkeyswrench on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:27:36
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:34:22
Themonkeyswrench are we supporters if we hurriedly bought r1 Moons as soon as we could?
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:44:17
I do not wish to publicize the list in case of harassments.
Post by: Baionlenja on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:45:35
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sat, 31 October 2020, 13:48:21
Post by: swangful on Sat, 31 October 2020, 14:30:28
IN.
awww yeeee
Post by: Eggplant on Sat, 31 October 2020, 15:38:16
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sat, 31 October 2020, 16:34:31
will the pcb work this time
Yes can confirm this time around the PCBs are way better than last time.
Post by: maximm on Sat, 31 October 2020, 16:38:44
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sun, 01 November 2020, 01:10:29
Is it still ISO compatible?
Yes
Post by: maximm on Sun, 01 November 2020, 03:22:56
Ordered a silver and black for my first builds in years!
Post by: macclack on Sun, 01 November 2020, 08:53:26
GLWGB!
Post by: ubmit on Sun, 01 November 2020, 09:44:09
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sun, 01 November 2020, 13:46:20
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sun, 01 November 2020, 13:47:28
Wew, as someone who was in the first round, I can vouch that this is legit awesome. PCB sucked but r1 was compatible with HineyTKL PCB which saved the day.
GLWGB!
This is something that will be fixed this round.
Post by: nathanchere on Sun, 01 November 2020, 13:54:04
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sun, 01 November 2020, 21:11:53
Post by: ReadmeDotTxt on Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:38:49
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Mon, 02 November 2020, 13:13:02
- Form was closed early due to overwhelming demand. I will perform the selection now. I have managed to secure the production units up to 200, slightly half of the joiners will win a spot. Production period will stay the same (6-8 months after my payment to manufacturer).
- I will send out the invoices to winners by 4 Nov 2020 (if you don't receive my invoice by then, you didn't get in). Please make payment as soon as possible to secure your spot. I would like to firm down the manufacturing quantity and production slots to avoid delays. China holidays are around end Jan/Feb next year.
- Please please confirm your orders, i.e. quantity, colour selection, extras, layout. Please contact me if you have issues before payment. Once I have submitted the order, no more changes.
Last but not least, thank you for the support guys. I really appreciate it. Cheers!
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Mon, 02 November 2020, 17:43:51
Will proceed to send them out once I am done napping.
Post by: cherrys23 on Mon, 02 November 2020, 18:06:02
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 02 November 2020, 18:13:52
Happy to just have a chance...
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 02 November 2020, 19:06:32
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Tue, 03 November 2020, 01:17:33
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Tue, 03 November 2020, 01:18:34
50/200 sent, still working on it.
Thanks for all the hard work Oko - excited and nervous! Good luck folks!
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Post by: rmendis on Tue, 03 November 2020, 02:07:27
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Tue, 03 November 2020, 09:46:35
PM question on discord =)
Replied and cleared :3
Post by: Hern on Tue, 03 November 2020, 11:48:44
Entered a few days ago and anxious to see who gets selected. I have been looking forward to this for awhile.
Plus it is my bday on Nov 8th so would be the perfect gift to myself lol
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Tue, 03 November 2020, 12:16:05
Post by: cherrys23 on Tue, 03 November 2020, 16:03:39
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Tue, 03 November 2020, 16:21:58
Once again, thank you for participating in this Group Buy.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Tue, 03 November 2020, 18:17:38
This will help me greatly. For now at least 100 units have been secured for this run.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/727463706577076274/773332660533461062/unknown.png)
Post by: Jedi on Tue, 03 November 2020, 20:21:51
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Tue, 03 November 2020, 20:45:49
If anyone backs out due to invoicing by PayPal, I’m happy to pay by credit card or transfer, you’re groupbuys are always reliable in my book.
Assuring to hear, am glad that I rushed to do the invoices to settle most of administrative tasks and fished out the problems early.
Will hook you up later if there is a free spot.
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 04 November 2020, 03:56:13
Post by: shansoft on Wed, 04 November 2020, 05:09:31
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 04 November 2020, 07:24:44
I don't believe they would fit as-is with Moon v2 but there is hope of aftermarket support at least
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 05 November 2020, 04:43:16
Managed to contact PayPal to increase my limit. I will fork up the rest if insufficient and leave it in my PayPal balance.
Do contact me if you have any problems. Unpaid invoices will be cancelled and ended to ban list after 7 Nov 2020.
Post by: Undrcontrl on Thu, 05 November 2020, 10:41:06
If anyone has second thoughts I am up for a Carbon colored one!
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Fri, 06 November 2020, 12:05:14
Well damn, missed the GB!
If anyone has second thoughts I am up for a Carbon colored one!
Spots are not transferrable. Best to wait in 2nd hand market.
Post by: Undrcontrl on Fri, 06 November 2020, 12:12:37
Will definitely look at second hand market but most people seem to like flipping boards and there is no board worth more than its GB cost, IMO
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sat, 07 November 2020, 16:49:07
All unpaid invoices will be cancelled and will be barred from entering my future GBs.
There will be strictly no change of addresses, should you move, please provide me with proof of moving during time of shipping.
Thanks again for those that participated, will move onwards to consolidation of orders.
I will provide manufacturing updates like how I did for Nebula. Cheers.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sun, 08 November 2020, 01:24:06
Post by: nathanchere on Sun, 08 November 2020, 06:46:42
Post by: maximm on Mon, 09 November 2020, 05:11:26
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sun, 22 November 2020, 11:11:23
Cheers.
Discord link: https://discord.gg/SjYB7am
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Mon, 30 November 2020, 03:28:38
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/782865506385526834/24ba94abad304634.jpg?width=798&height=1064)
Post by: defzone on Mon, 30 November 2020, 03:57:23
Production has already started last week.Excited!Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/726995965847928903/782865506385526834/24ba94abad304634.jpg)
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Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 10 December 2020, 11:58:30
Will try to provide an update if I receive anything substantial from China side.
Post by: Tekniqs on Thu, 10 December 2020, 16:43:24
Dec updates: not much going on here. Things are still moving on the CNC side and happy holidays to all.
Will try to provide an update if I receive anything substantial from China side.
even though not much substance, thanks for the update. I always appreciate it when gb runners drop in once in a while even just to say 'things are continuing to move along'.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Fri, 15 January 2021, 01:53:14
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/799546184129576960/-389f7e36ffd07973.jpg?width=816&height=1089)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/799546184540356628/-2ca167a1fe74b62c.jpg?width=816&height=1089)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/726995965847928903/799546184850341928/-3bc63ecf92d35b18.jpg?width=1452&height=1089)
Still plenty of time before the 6-8 months is up. Just don't be to anxious on the progress.
Love you all. Cheers.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Fri, 15 January 2021, 10:11:14
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 15 January 2021, 15:41:54
Thanks :)
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sun, 17 January 2021, 20:14:08
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Mon, 15 March 2021, 19:31:28
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Fri, 30 April 2021, 06:17:50
Will provide pictures once he sent them to me.
Post by: maximm on Fri, 14 May 2021, 06:38:37
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Fri, 28 May 2021, 23:39:40
Will a TX Bag be included or available?
TX Bag is not included. But they will be packed in proper foam boxes.
Post by: rmendis on Sun, 08 August 2021, 13:36:18
Post by: MajorKoos on Sun, 08 August 2021, 16:16:47
Any updates?
Discord says next update is mid August.
Post by: Tekniqs on Mon, 09 August 2021, 03:28:10
Post by: shansoft on Mon, 09 August 2021, 16:22:14
Any chance for different plates such as pc/fr4/etc? Just asking.
I don't think those were offer during GB. The plate file is available I believe, which is identical to Jane v1.
Post by: Tekniqs on Mon, 09 August 2021, 18:23:24
Any chance for different plates such as pc/fr4/etc? Just asking.
I don't think those were offer during GB. The plate file is available I believe, which is identical to Jane v1.
Oh OK. I happen to have a jane v1 fr4 hiney plate laying around. Works out
Post by: cruelworld on Wed, 11 August 2021, 19:31:18
Post by: Raul-7 on Thu, 12 August 2021, 13:13:27
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Sat, 14 August 2021, 21:54:13
Can I ask a question; if the GB is successful do you release new revisions for those who wish to buy but missed out? Thanks.
I mean...this is the V2 after all :D I'm sure there will be a V3 eventually but it won't happen until well after V2 has shipped. Oko has other projects they're working on as well.
Post by: Tyson on Tue, 11 January 2022, 13:45:34
Post by: wholypantalones on Mon, 28 March 2022, 11:40:58
Post by: Tyson on Mon, 28 March 2022, 12:02:32
n e updates avail?
Last time I looked in the discord it looked like Oko was working on shipping labels for everyone. I left the discord because I know I'll eventually get the board and I wanted to slim down on servers.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 28 March 2022, 12:18:41
Post by: wholypantalones on Mon, 04 April 2022, 20:50:52
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 04 April 2022, 22:12:51
I am a member of the discord. I just assumed after a year plus, there would be some sort of movement..
Will be 17 months later this week. The other boards of Fall 2020 (S75 U80a Iron 180 Bauer) are out. Vega was a few weeks later but maybe ~10x the number of units?
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 25 April 2022, 13:59:27
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 25 April 2022, 20:17:52
Just wondering if anyone has received any updates in private since the Discord is now locked?
No discord news whatsoever. I’d think most would post if we’d heard.
Post by: shansoft on Tue, 26 April 2022, 20:42:46
At least a few words explaining the situation would be nice, but then decided to mute discord channel instead.
Things are getting fishy….
Post by: drunken0monkey on Fri, 29 April 2022, 20:54:11
The fact that this is the only place I can vent (I don't expect a response) is a sad statement about the state of this hobby. I will reference the Vega here as it was a long wait with many delays, yet I never felt frustrated or cheated; because ai03 was transparent and communicated with customers respectfully.
Please do better, Okonomiyaki.
Post by: macclack on Sat, 30 April 2022, 10:51:06
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 30 April 2022, 10:53:35
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 30 April 2022, 11:29:06
The trivium TKL group buy has had better communication in 2022
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 11 May 2022, 17:44:53
“ 12 May 2022 update: Will be verifying all the units in China with a partner of mine in CN.
The list is already finalized. Once this is done within the month, shipping and invoicing will happen within May 2022.”
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 11 May 2022, 17:59:42
An update on discord:
“ 12 May 2022 update: Will be verifying all the units in China with a partner of mine in CN.
The list is already finalized. Once this is done within the month, shipping and invoicing will happen within May 2022.”
Thanks for relaying!
Post by: drunken0monkey on Mon, 06 June 2022, 16:08:44
Thanks
Post by: Tekniqs on Mon, 06 June 2022, 17:14:58
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 06 June 2022, 21:17:47
Post by: drunken0monkey on Tue, 07 June 2022, 11:30:06
This has made me change my view on the hobby (probably because it's my first really bad one). I used to give the benefit of the doubt to designers and all the people involved in actually making these keyboards happen; niche hobby and people doing it for the love of it kind of thing - I accepted the financial risk and unreliable schedules while dealing with anonymous entities. I will be more careful going forward. I don't know how many GB runners publicly provide their real names or contact information, but I'll be looking for it from now on. I suspect I'll be disappointed. I don't pretend to fully understand why I never questioned committing thousands of dollars to people I had never met, known or could be sure even existed (going a bit overboard here, I get it).
My general point is maybe the hobby has grown enough to demand a little more as buyers?
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Tue, 07 June 2022, 15:39:24
Appreciate the responses. At this point, the money's probably long gone . I hope someday a keyboard shows up.
This has made me change my view on the hobby (probably because it's my first really bad one). I used to give the benefit of the doubt to designers and all the people involved in actually making these keyboards happen; niche hobby and people doing it for the love of it kind of thing - I accepted the financial risk and unreliable schedules while dealing with anonymous entities. I will be more careful going forward. I don't know how many GB runners publicly provide their real names or contact information, but I'll be looking for it from now on. I suspect I'll be disappointed. I don't pretend to fully understand why I never questioned committing thousands of dollars to people I had never met, known or could be sure even existed (going a bit overboard here, I get it).
My general point is maybe the hobby has grown enough to demand a little more as buyers?
To be fair to yourself, Okonomiyaki had a reputation for being extremely trustworthy and had a proven track record of delivering things smoothly. There isn't anything you could have really done as a buyer that would have helped or prevent this from happening. Hindsight always 20/20, but there were no red flags at the time. I'm sure we'll get boards eventually but I have a feeling they will be less than A-stock. It just doesn't make sense that'd we'd get photos of boards practically finished with machining and then never receive anything. Clearly something went wrong, just wish we could get an iota of information as to what the issue actually is. I will definitely not be recommending anyone join any future buys from Okonomiyaki.
Post by: drunken0monkey on Tue, 07 June 2022, 18:22:06
Takes a long time to build a good reputation and an instant do ruin it. I really hope whatever the issues are she can resolve them without undue burden.
I for one am not planning to recover the money and will continue waiting.
But Oko, for the love of god, give us an update.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 07 June 2022, 19:03:30
Post by: idiot on Wed, 08 June 2022, 22:17:12
Post by: CavemanLeFancy33 on Thu, 09 June 2022, 00:33:45
Post by: directheatedtriode on Fri, 10 June 2022, 10:25:44
Post by: shansoft on Sat, 11 June 2022, 21:47:15
Something doesn't seem right about this one. The boards are definitely there based on the photo provided.
Okonomiyaki is located in Singapore, and recent COVID surges / lock down got nothing to do with Singapore either. The boards seems to be located in China right now.
My guess is, items are either lost on the way or the correspondent in China screwed it up. Okonomiyaki is trying resolved it on without revealing the situation to the buyers.
It's completely reasonable to be mad at the situation as buyer, and the right thing to do as a GB runner should have been more transparent about it.
There has been 2 times Okonomiyaki said shipping invoice will be sent out within the month, but that never happened. Months goes by, and absolutely no new information provided. Locking the Discord because people start questioning only makes it worse.
Simply talk out the problem, and let everyone know the situation, let us know if we can help in some way. Leaving all of us buyer in the dark is possibly the worst decision to make.
Post by: kronograf on Sun, 12 June 2022, 04:57:37
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Sun, 12 June 2022, 10:29:30
AFAIK Oko is currently fulfilling a CRP GB locally, so I don't know why they aren't responding to you guys. Oh well.
She's been running other GB's so I'm not totally surprised by this. Belle en rose is another example and that hasn't had an update since January and were supposed to be shipping next month.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 12 June 2022, 11:56:20
AFAIK Oko is currently fulfilling a CRP GB locally, so I don't know why they aren't responding to you guys. Oh well.
Hopefully it’s to raise money so that scammer can start some refunds
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 22 June 2022, 10:33:06
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 22 June 2022, 10:49:47
This GB is going to same route as the Rukia.
I think it's time to block vendors from using Discord to run their GB's.
It's too easy for them to just lock down all the channels to stop the buyers from collaborating/communicating when things go bad.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 22 June 2022, 13:21:29
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 22 June 2022, 14:05:05
Locking all the channels on Discord to stop people commenting on how delayed things are is lame.
This GB is going to same route as the Rukia.
I think it's time to block vendors from using Discord to run their GB's.
It's too easy for them to just lock down all the channels to stop the buyers from collaborating/communicating when things go bad.
vendors have been disallowed from doing this for a while now (almost 5 years iirc), but nobody ever flags it to the mods so people do it anyway
pretty clear in the site rules you're not allowed to run a GB and then give updates exclusively on another platform
Post by: drunken0monkey on Thu, 23 June 2022, 08:04:34
Locking all the channels on Discord to stop people commenting on how delayed things are is lame.
This GB is going to same route as the Rukia.
I think it's time to block vendors from using Discord to run their GB's.
It's too easy for them to just lock down all the channels to stop the buyers from collaborating/communicating when things go bad.
vendors have been disallowed from doing this for a while now (almost 5 years iirc), but nobody ever flags it to the mods so people do it anyway
pretty clear in the site rules you're not allowed to run a GB and then give updates exclusively on another platform
That's interesting and I wasn't aware of that rule. Is there a mechanism to enforce it? For example is Oko now blocked from running GBs on Geekhack?
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 23 June 2022, 08:27:17
Locking all the channels on Discord to stop people commenting on how delayed things are is lame.
This GB is going to same route as the Rukia.
I think it's time to block vendors from using Discord to run their GB's.
It's too easy for them to just lock down all the channels to stop the buyers from collaborating/communicating when things go bad.
vendors have been disallowed from doing this for a while now (almost 5 years iirc), but nobody ever flags it to the mods so people do it anyway
pretty clear in the site rules you're not allowed to run a GB and then give updates exclusively on another platform
That's interesting and I wasn't aware of that rule. Is there a mechanism to enforce it? For example is Oko now blocked from running GBs on Geekhack?
you should send this thread to a GH mod/admin and see if they take action
im not in this GB so i am staying out of it
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 23 June 2022, 13:28:23
Locking all the channels on Discord to stop people commenting on how delayed things are is lame.
This GB is going to same route as the Rukia.
I think it's time to block vendors from using Discord to run their GB's.
It's too easy for them to just lock down all the channels to stop the buyers from collaborating/communicating when things go bad.
vendors have been disallowed from doing this for a while now (almost 5 years iirc), but nobody ever flags it to the mods so people do it anyway
pretty clear in the site rules you're not allowed to run a GB and then give updates exclusively on another platform
That's interesting and I wasn't aware of that rule. Is there a mechanism to enforce it? For example is Oko now blocked from running GBs on Geekhack?
you should send this thread to a GH mod/admin and see if they take action
im not in this GB so i am staying out of it
Yes, this user can be prevented from running further group buys on this platform if they cease to provide updates here on their group buy threads
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 23 June 2022, 14:07:26
Locking all the channels on Discord to stop people commenting on how delayed things are is lame.
This GB is going to same route as the Rukia.
I think it's time to block vendors from using Discord to run their GB's.
It's too easy for them to just lock down all the channels to stop the buyers from collaborating/communicating when things go bad.
vendors have been disallowed from doing this for a while now (almost 5 years iirc), but nobody ever flags it to the mods so people do it anyway
pretty clear in the site rules you're not allowed to run a GB and then give updates exclusively on another platform
That's interesting and I wasn't aware of that rule. Is there a mechanism to enforce it? For example is Oko now blocked from running GBs on Geekhack?
you should send this thread to a GH mod/admin and see if they take action
im not in this GB so i am staying out of it
Yes, this user can be prevented from running further group buys on this platform if they cease to provide updates here on their group buy threads
Yep. Really just needs to be flagged to the mod team, either through PMs or reporting offending threads.
Post by: drunken0monkey on Fri, 24 June 2022, 15:11:12
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Post by: hungtranm18 on Sat, 02 July 2022, 19:29:30
Post by: shansoft on Sat, 02 July 2022, 23:50:28
I sent an e-mail to Okonomiyaki but she didn't have a response either. Can someone in singapore contact her?
I have also message her on discord, no reply either.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 03 July 2022, 15:56:01
I sent an e-mail to Okonomiyaki but she didn't have a response either. Can someone in singapore contact her?
Many there are too busy being apologists.
Post by: kronograf on Wed, 06 July 2022, 11:47:30
I sent an e-mail to Okonomiyaki but she didn't have a response either. Can someone in singapore contact her?
Many there are too busy being apologists.
Source? Hardly anyone in our local discord is defending them. Plenty of folks pissed off at not receiving their CRPs on time, either.
*Supposedly* the last someone heard they’re on some kind of quarantine with linkted access to email, but idk.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 06 July 2022, 12:17:39
Post by: kronograf on Wed, 06 July 2022, 12:28:27
Icedmilo April 16, kevinsunbo and others from the discord. Didn’t know CRP was behind for folks there too, that’s too bad.
You mean oko’s own discord? I’m not in there. Of course you’re gonna get fanboys.
Most folks on SGMK proper aren’t excusing their behavior.
Post by: Hern on Fri, 08 July 2022, 08:38:47
Some information I gathered is that the manufacturer does not have the address list on who to send each board to. Just several excuses if you ask me. Would be easy enough to just tell the manufacturer to ship direct to one person and then that one person has lots of work to then ship out all the boards to the right people.
Kevinsunbo said that the designer of moon will make a post here on this site and buyers can directly contact him to get them?
Basically writing this board off though as the chance of things working out at this point is slim to none.
Figures the most expensive board I get into for GB is the one that I get scammed on...
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 08 July 2022, 09:01:45
Been messaging a few from the locked discord in DM's. Seems something major happened with the manufacturer.
Some information I gathered is that the manufacturer does not have the address list on who to send each board to. Just several excuses if you ask me. Would be easy enough to just tell the manufacturer to ship direct to one person and then that one person has lots of work to then ship out all the boards to the right people.
Kevinsunbo said that the designer of moon will make a post here on this site and buyers can directly contact him to get them?
Basically writing this board off though as the chance of things working out at this point is slim to none.
Figures the most expensive board I get into for GB is the one that I get scammed on...
Wat? Before I left the server a while ago Oko was posting pics at their place of living with the boards in the red cases already. Are you sure they have their information correct in regards to issues with the manu? The pics I remember seeing could have possibly been for the Chinese orders but I'm not 100% sure. I don't feel this is a scam tbh, look how long it's taken Yutski to mail the Jane V2 CE's lol.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 08 July 2022, 11:20:46
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Fri, 08 July 2022, 14:35:10
Been messaging a few from the locked discord in DM's. Seems something major happened with the manufacturer.
Some information I gathered is that the manufacturer does not have the address list on who to send each board to. Just several excuses if you ask me. Would be easy enough to just tell the manufacturer to ship direct to one person and then that one person has lots of work to then ship out all the boards to the right people.
Kevinsunbo said that the designer of moon will make a post here on this site and buyers can directly contact him to get them?
Basically writing this board off though as the chance of things working out at this point is slim to none.
Figures the most expensive board I get into for GB is the one that I get scammed on...
Wat? Before I left the server a while ago Oko was posting pics at their place of living with the boards in the red cases already. Are you sure they have their information correct in regards to issues with the manu? The pics I remember seeing could have possibly been for the Chinese orders but I'm not 100% sure. I don't feel this is a scam tbh, look how long it's taken Yutski to mail the Jane V2 CE's lol.
Just went back and checked out those videos as I didn't want to leave the server until the board is in hand. I don't think that was Oko's living room. Looked more like an office space at the manufacturer's building. I also vaguely remember Oko saying these would ship directly from the manufacturer but I can't find the specific comment. Either way, She should have the master purchase/shipping list available. Providing a copy to the Manu doesn't seem like it should be taking this long, but if the manu didn't keep half-decent records on everything produced I can see why it would be taking longer. If that is the ONLY issue, I'll actually be very happy and won't mind the wait. The lack of communication is still enough to make me not want to join anything else Oko runs.
Post by: Ryanticz on Fri, 08 July 2022, 15:32:56
TGR track record is different so you can’t compare. Oko doesn’t have TGR reputation. Yutski doesn’t shut down their server and stop all updates because people are questioning the buy and what’s going on.
This is honestly the only issue I have with this GB. I've joined some bad GBs like the BOCC GB and even then the runner never locked the discord, not even a single channel. Locking an entire server just to avoid having to answer to people unhappy with the lack of communication is exactly what happened with the Rukia R2 and look at that run. Not a great look for Oko here at all.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Sat, 09 July 2022, 08:05:03
Been messaging a few from the locked discord in DM's. Seems something major happened with the manufacturer.
Some information I gathered is that the manufacturer does not have the address list on who to send each board to. Just several excuses if you ask me. Would be easy enough to just tell the manufacturer to ship direct to one person and then that one person has lots of work to then ship out all the boards to the right people.
Kevinsunbo said that the designer of moon will make a post here on this site and buyers can directly contact him to get them?
Basically writing this board off though as the chance of things working out at this point is slim to none.
Figures the most expensive board I get into for GB is the one that I get scammed on...
Wat? Before I left the server a while ago Oko was posting pics at their place of living with the boards in the red cases already. Are you sure they have their information correct in regards to issues with the manu? The pics I remember seeing could have possibly been for the Chinese orders but I'm not 100% sure. I don't feel this is a scam tbh, look how long it's taken Yutski to mail the Jane V2 CE's lol.
Just went back and checked out those videos as I didn't want to leave the server until the board is in hand. I don't think that was Oko's living room. Looked more like an office space at the manufacturer's building.
That was my impression as well.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 09 July 2022, 09:50:19
Been messaging a few from the locked discord in DM's. Seems something major happened with the manufacturer.
Some information I gathered is that the manufacturer does not have the address list on who to send each board to. Just several excuses if you ask me. Would be easy enough to just tell the manufacturer to ship direct to one person and then that one person has lots of work to then ship out all the boards to the right people.
Kevinsunbo said that the designer of moon will make a post here on this site and buyers can directly contact him to get them?
Basically writing this board off though as the chance of things working out at this point is slim to none.
Figures the most expensive board I get into for GB is the one that I get scammed on...
Post by: dangboy on Sat, 09 July 2022, 11:32:06
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 09 July 2022, 12:54:47
My bad, thought okonomiyaki and Kevinsunbo were different genders. My mistake.
Nonetheless, paying more money to scammers is iffy. Might be better to just take the L
Post by: dangboy on Sat, 09 July 2022, 16:36:41
? If Oko posts that the boards are ready to ship are you going to just not pay the shipping invoice?
I get and understand that you're angry, it's just a little grating.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 09 July 2022, 18:05:09
For that many, nah, the liar Okonomiyaki can sell em and send the GB money back. While that filth is addressing issues she can address a few more.
Post by: Lil on Sun, 10 July 2022, 09:55:30
“Kevinsunbo said that the designer of moon will make a post here on this site and buyers can directly contact him to get them?“
My bad, thought okonomiyaki and Kevinsunbo were different genders. My mistake.
Nonetheless, paying more money to scammers is iffy. Might be better to just take the L
Do you have any evidence of them being scammers or is that a label that you have created yourself?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 10 July 2022, 14:34:31
“Kevinsunbo said that the designer of moon will make a post here on this site and buyers can directly contact him to get them?“
My bad, thought okonomiyaki and Kevinsunbo were different genders. My mistake.
Nonetheless, paying more money to scammers is iffy. Might be better to just take the L
Do you have any evidence of them being scammers or is that a label that you have created yourself?
(https://i.redd.it/w3yaea6d68961.png)
Post by: XHE on Mon, 11 July 2022, 08:26:44
“Kevinsunbo said that the designer of moon will make a post here on this site and buyers can directly contact him to get them?“
My bad, thought okonomiyaki and Kevinsunbo were different genders. My mistake.
Nonetheless, paying more money to scammers is iffy. Might be better to just take the L
Do you have any evidence of them being scammers or is that a label that you have created yourself?
Let´s say there is a mounting fear that this GB will not go through. No matter the reasons on the runner´s side of things, the prospect of losing something like 600 Dollars on a GB can turn people sour... and very much understandably so.
Communication from Oko regarding this GB has been on and off at the best of times. Combined with an address check in December of 2021 with 0 follow up, and a single update this May promising fulfillment during that month, followed by a lock down of all channels of Oko´s discord server sure makes all the alarm bells ring.
Does that mean that Oko or Kevin or whoever are scammers? Not necessarily. Does that mean that we are facing an ever more probable outcome that leaves all backers several hundred dollars out of pocket? Yeah, it does.
Post by: Lil on Tue, 12 July 2022, 15:33:59
Let´s say there is a mounting fear that this GB will not go through. No matter the reasons on the runner´s side of things, the prospect of losing something like 600 Dollars on a GB can turn people sour... and very much understandably so.
Communication from Oko regarding this GB has been on and off at the best of times. Combined with an address check in December of 2021 with 0 follow up, and a single update this May promising fulfillment during that month, followed by a lock down of all channels of Oko´s discord server sure makes all the alarm bells ring.
Does that mean that Oko or Kevin or whoever are scammers? Not necessarily. Does that mean that we are facing an ever more probable outcome that leaves all backers several hundred dollars out of pocket? Yeah, it does.
All of us here are on the same boat [other than those here for the popcorn or who have more posts on Geekhack than days they've been alive]. People who have already given up, are demoralising everyone else and actively sabotaging the situation are bad actors and should be treated as such. Why do you think that communication has ceased and the discord has been locked down? From what I recall it's because the person calling them a scammer harassed them until they achieved it
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 12 July 2022, 16:26:31
Think if we mount up a big round of positivity the rukias will ship?
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Tue, 12 July 2022, 16:47:06
Let´s say there is a mounting fear that this GB will not go through. No matter the reasons on the runner´s side of things, the prospect of losing something like 600 Dollars on a GB can turn people sour... and very much understandably so.
Communication from Oko regarding this GB has been on and off at the best of times. Combined with an address check in December of 2021 with 0 follow up, and a single update this May promising fulfillment during that month, followed by a lock down of all channels of Oko´s discord server sure makes all the alarm bells ring.
Does that mean that Oko or Kevin or whoever are scammers? Not necessarily. Does that mean that we are facing an ever more probable outcome that leaves all backers several hundred dollars out of pocket? Yeah, it does.
All of us here are on the same boat [other than those here for the popcorn or who have more posts on Geekhack than days they've been alive]. People who have already given up, are demoralising everyone else and actively sabotaging the situation are bad actors and should be treated as such. Why do you think that communication has ceased and the discord has been locked down? From what I recall it's because the person calling them a scammer harassed them until they achieved it
Yeah, blame the buyers. They did this. They're the reason no details have been given since December. Not only are they sabotaging this GB indirectly, they probably sabotaged the factory directly.
I figure if we're reaching, we might as well go all out.
Also you can search "scam" and "scammer" in the discord. No one referenced those towards Oko when she locked it down. All of the conversation is still there to view. I have faith this will one day be delivered. I don't see a problem in calling it how I see it. We have not been given respectful communication for too long. I'm not surprised others are less optimistic and that's their right to be.
Post by: Lil on Tue, 12 July 2022, 19:46:36
Post by: kiyoboard on Tue, 12 July 2022, 20:34:22
The only way that we receive the boards is for them to be shipped by the GB runner to us. Can you please explain exactly what part of what any of you have said is helping the situation, instead of making it worse?
So you are basically saying that if everyone behaves nice there is a chance for boards to show up, but if they don't that chance is less? I think people should try to be civil regardless of the situation, but it is simply not acceptable for a GB runner to not ship things because some people said potentially mean stuff online. Imagine if Novelkeys hold your money hostage and not send you your GB orders just because you posted something that somehow hurt their feelings.
I am also in this GB(also was in Nebula GB which delivered fine). Personally never wrote anything in the discord server, but I think we shouldn't try to make this even slightly acceptable, as it isn't. If there is a production or personal issue, they are all understandable things but they need to be communicated.
Post by: shansoft on Wed, 13 July 2022, 20:00:35
Could be something happened in her life that impact the entire operation.
Honestly, I don't mind giving it more time, but lack of communications is a serious problem for GB. At this point the board is just sitting there not going anywhere. The chance of receiving is practically none existence at this point, given that CRP GB also fail through.
Does anyone have any success getting paypal to refund? I have ordered 2 board and multiple PCBs. Feels like thousand of dollars just flush into toilet.
Post by: Tekniqs on Wed, 13 July 2022, 20:35:42
, given that CRP GB also fail through.story on the crp gb?
Post by: shansoft on Thu, 14 July 2022, 17:33:06
, given that CRP GB also fail through.story on the crp gb?
based on the previous info, most of it still not shipped.
Post by: Lil on Thu, 14 July 2022, 17:44:04
So you are basically saying that if everyone behaves nice there is a chance for boards to show up, but if they don't that chance is less? I think people should try to be civil regardless of the situation, but it is simply not acceptable for a GB runner to not ship things because some people said potentially mean stuff online. Imagine if Novelkeys hold your money hostage and not send you your GB orders just because you posted something that somehow hurt their feelings.
I am also in this GB(also was in Nebula GB which delivered fine). Personally never wrote anything in the discord server, but I think we shouldn't try to make this even slightly acceptable, as it isn't. If there is a production or personal issue, they are all understandable things but they need to be communicated.
I am not apologising for or making excuses for the GB runner. Nor am I espousing that we should adopt some kind of stockholm syndrome style placative attitude towards them. I don't believe at this point that the GB runner is engaging with the participants or will see these posts. As I mentioned earlier it's a fact that the boards have to be shipped before we will receive them. Do you believe that what we post here will increase the chances of the boards shipping or expedite the process? I am simply questioning what some individuals had expected to achieve with their posts and communications here and over discord.
I accept the situation as it is. Although I feel that some people have contributed to the lack of communication, I can also accept that. Ultimately as you have alluded to it's the GB runner whom is responsible for communication and fulfilment regardless of the reception. What rubs me the wrong way is when those same people continue to wax lyrically and self indulgently here without self awareness. We are all in the same situation and probably all have a right to feel frustrated at this point - but they don't have it worse than anyone else, so maybe they can stop bemoaning the tragic fate of their life now?
They could atleast play a better tune on their tiny little violin that they are fiddling with so dramatically
Post by: kiyoboard on Fri, 15 July 2022, 09:11:18
So you are basically saying that if everyone behaves nice there is a chance for boards to show up, but if they don't that chance is less? I think people should try to be civil regardless of the situation, but it is simply not acceptable for a GB runner to not ship things because some people said potentially mean stuff online. Imagine if Novelkeys hold your money hostage and not send you your GB orders just because you posted something that somehow hurt their feelings.
I am also in this GB(also was in Nebula GB which delivered fine). Personally never wrote anything in the discord server, but I think we shouldn't try to make this even slightly acceptable, as it isn't. If there is a production or personal issue, they are all understandable things but they need to be communicated.
I am not apologising for or making excuses for the GB runner. Nor am I espousing that we should adopt some kind of stockholm syndrome style placative attitude towards them. I don't believe at this point that the GB runner is engaging with the participants or will see these posts. As I mentioned earlier it's a fact that the boards have to be shipped before we will receive them. Do you believe that what we post here will increase the chances of the boards shipping or expedite the process? I am simply questioning what some individuals had expected to achieve with their posts and communications here and over discord.
I accept the situation as it is. Although I feel that some people have contributed to the lack of communication, I can also accept that. Ultimately as you have alluded to it's the GB runner whom is responsible for communication and fulfilment regardless of the reception. What rubs me the wrong way is when those same people continue to wax lyrically and self indulgently here without self awareness. We are all in the same situation and probably all have a right to feel frustrated at this point - but they don't have it worse than anyone else, so maybe they can stop bemoaning the tragic fate of their life now?
They could atleast play a better tune on their tiny little violin that they are fiddling with so dramatically
I personally didn't get the feeling that those people thinking they have it worse than others. I think it is just people venting in their own way. I also agree that Oko reading these are very unlikely, and I would think most, if not all people are aware of that. So, I would think they are aware that what they write here has no effect on the outcome. As I said, it is just venting.
Also, it is expected for people to react to the same situation in a different way. And there might be legit reasons for some people to react more than others. For example if you are buying only 1 keyboard a year instead of 15, and this is the one that you bought, you would be way more upset compared to person losing 1 out of 15 keyboards they bought. Another reason might be having bought multiple boards in this GB with extras and brass upgrades etc. Just to be clear, I am not saying these justify any personal attacks, which I don't think happened.
I personally don't accept some people contributing to the lack of communication. I haven't been following conversations in her discord, but as I mentioned, it doesn't matter what happens in the discord or any other social platform. She can't behave like an adolescent teenager and try to punish all the people whom she got tens of thousands dollars. If someone is behaving out of line in discord, you just kick them out of there and move on. If your discord is totally out of control for some reason, then you just shut it down and continue updating on GH, with no live interaction with people, as she already should have been doing. Well, even discord can be an update only thing.
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Fri, 15 July 2022, 12:42:53
So you are basically saying that if everyone behaves nice there is a chance for boards to show up, but if they don't that chance is less? I think people should try to be civil regardless of the situation, but it is simply not acceptable for a GB runner to not ship things because some people said potentially mean stuff online. Imagine if Novelkeys hold your money hostage and not send you your GB orders just because you posted something that somehow hurt their feelings.
I am also in this GB(also was in Nebula GB which delivered fine). Personally never wrote anything in the discord server, but I think we shouldn't try to make this even slightly acceptable, as it isn't. If there is a production or personal issue, they are all understandable things but they need to be communicated.
I am not apologising for or making excuses for the GB runner. Nor am I espousing that we should adopt some kind of stockholm syndrome style placative attitude towards them. I don't believe at this point that the GB runner is engaging with the participants or will see these posts. As I mentioned earlier it's a fact that the boards have to be shipped before we will receive them. Do you believe that what we post here will increase the chances of the boards shipping or expedite the process? I am simply questioning what some individuals had expected to achieve with their posts and communications here and over discord.
I accept the situation as it is. Although I feel that some people have contributed to the lack of communication, I can also accept that. Ultimately as you have alluded to it's the GB runner whom is responsible for communication and fulfilment regardless of the reception. What rubs me the wrong way is when those same people continue to wax lyrically and self indulgently here without self awareness. We are all in the same situation and probably all have a right to feel frustrated at this point - but they don't have it worse than anyone else, so maybe they can stop bemoaning the tragic fate of their life now?
They could atleast play a better tune on their tiny little violin that they are fiddling with so dramatically
Earlier you said the only way we'd get these was if Oko shipped them and that somehow our morale magically makes that happen. Now you're saying Oko won't even read these messages. Which is it? And how can you say with such certainty that someone doesn't have it worse than you? What if they bought more than one board? The great thing about Geekhack is that is serves as a written record so future community members can look back at how past group buys were managed. This helps them make more informed decisions on who to support. That's good enough of a reason to post complaints and hold runners accountable. And just as as a final point, I think I'd rather wax lyrically and self indulgently than be a boot licker.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 15 July 2022, 12:46:25
Damn Lil you got 5 of em too?
Post by: hungtranm18 on Sun, 17 July 2022, 12:29:37
Post by: shansoft on Sun, 17 July 2022, 19:24:06
This is Oko's sales website https://synaesthesia.online/, I see her address here. Has anyone in Singapore tried to find her yet?
Based on the email that was previously sent by Oko for Moon TKL GB, it seems like there are 2 different people managing the GB. You can find both people with their correlated personal online profile quite easy.
Getting no reply from both of them. Something definitely happened but not disclosed for w/e reason. Their online presence essentially disappear as well.
I don't think scamming the buyer is the reason here. Honestly, just be more transparent and see if anyone can help with the situation. Not saying anything and just keeping people in dark is the worst kind.
Really hope this one goes through, but will start contacting the credit card service if its still like this in the near future.
Post by: DasGnome on Mon, 18 July 2022, 15:02:05
We can only speculate about what has happened sadly. Hopefully someone IRL can confirm they are alive and healthy, and then I can be mad.
Post by: kronograf on Wed, 20 July 2022, 12:11:07
This is Oko's sales website https://synaesthesia.online/, I see her address here. Has anyone in Singapore tried to find her yet?
From someone on the local discord who went to pick up their CRP order. Just relaying what they said:
(https://i.imgur.com/SEcV5o9.png)
Post by: directheatedtriode on Wed, 20 July 2022, 12:30:04
Post by: shansoft on Wed, 20 July 2022, 13:48:03
This is Oko's sales website https://synaesthesia.online/, I see her address here. Has anyone in Singapore tried to find her yet?
From someone on the local discord who went to pick up their CRP order. Just relaying what they said:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SEcV5o9.png)
Does Oko..... not have a smartphone...?
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 20 July 2022, 14:01:21
This is Oko's sales website https://synaesthesia.online/, I see her address here. Has anyone in Singapore tried to find her yet?
From someone on the local discord who went to pick up their CRP order. Just relaying what they said:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SEcV5o9.png)
Ok, so if I'm reading the date correctly on that, that was posted 10 days ago. Meaning that she should be back to shipping within the next 4 days. Hopefully she will ship all of the CRP orders then work on mailing out all of the Moon TKL orders. Thank you for giving us this info. I hope all is well with Oko in the long run. We've seen how strict China's been with handling the pandemic.
Post by: Aiwanei on Wed, 20 July 2022, 20:57:24
This is Oko's sales website https://synaesthesia.online/, I see her address here. Has anyone in Singapore tried to find her yet?
From someone on the local discord who went to pick up their CRP order. Just relaying what they said:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SEcV5o9.png)
Ok, so if I'm reading the date correctly on that, that was posted 10 days ago. Meaning that she should be back to shipping within the next 4 days. Hopefully she will ship all of the CRP orders then work on mailing out all of the Moon TKL orders. Thank you for giving us this info. I hope all is well with Oko in the long run. We've seen how strict China's been with handling the pandemic.
Oko is in Signapore not China unless I'm mistaken.
Post by: swyte on Mon, 25 July 2022, 17:30:53
Post by: shansoft on Wed, 03 August 2022, 03:00:33
anyone have any update on Oko's reenactment of The Italian Job renamed The Moon Job?
Nope! wondering this as well........
Post by: chillchuck on Wed, 03 August 2022, 08:43:04
Post by: swyte on Wed, 03 August 2022, 09:47:58
Might need to start crowdfunding a buyer representative to send over and figure out if Oko is in a soap opera coma or something.
This might seriously be the move to go with. From what I recall people have picked them up locally? Why don't we hire someone, a legal firm or repo, to pick up all remaining units, ship them out and bill to Oko and their shop/business. I'm not up to speed on SG law but there's got to be a way for asset's tied to Oko personally or tied up in Oko''s shop worth the fees we'd have to pay? I mean every extra month makes it seem worse and worse with regard to Okos alleged excuses peddled around to different people - manufacturer issues with pictures of the boards in cases, questionable ill health for months, brother is too scarred to ship and mess up - its really just a load of BS excuses, one after another once the last excuse has dried up. People dying with cancer can still post on a message board. There's no reason for this anymore except something went totally wrong.
Post by: shansoft on Wed, 03 August 2022, 14:17:14
Might need to start crowdfunding a buyer representative to send over and figure out if Oko is in a soap opera coma or something.
This might seriously be the move to go with. From what I recall people have picked them up locally? Why don't we hire someone, a legal firm or repo, to pick up all remaining units, ship them out and bill to Oko and their shop/business. I'm not up to speed on SG law but there's got to be a way for asset's tied to Oko personally or tied up in Oko''s shop worth the fees we'd have to pay? I mean every extra month makes it seem worse and worse with regard to Okos alleged excuses peddled around to different people - manufacturer issues with pictures of the boards in cases, questionable ill health for months, brother is too scarred to ship and mess up - its really just a load of BS excuses, one after another once the last excuse has dried up. People dying with cancer can still post on a message board. There's no reason for this anymore except something went totally wrong.
Where are all these Oko's informations coming from? That seems to be quite odd that people are able to contact them, but somehow we couldn't. Is there like alternative Discord channel they have in SG?
Post by: swyte on Thu, 04 August 2022, 12:04:58
Might need to start crowdfunding a buyer representative to send over and figure out if Oko is in a soap opera coma or something.
This might seriously be the move to go with. From what I recall people have picked them up locally? Why don't we hire someone, a legal firm or repo, to pick up all remaining units, ship them out and bill to Oko and their shop/business. I'm not up to speed on SG law but there's got to be a way for asset's tied to Oko personally or tied up in Oko''s shop worth the fees we'd have to pay? I mean every extra month makes it seem worse and worse with regard to Okos alleged excuses peddled around to different people - manufacturer issues with pictures of the boards in cases, questionable ill health for months, brother is too scarred to ship and mess up - its really just a load of BS excuses, one after another once the last excuse has dried up. People dying with cancer can still post on a message board. There's no reason for this anymore except something went totally wrong.
Where are all these Oko's informations coming from? That seems to be quite odd that people are able to contact them, but somehow we couldn't. Is there like alternative Discord channel they have in SG?
Literally no idea - no background is ever given just someone with a piece of info. Legit could just be Oko shills trying to calm down the crowds.
The only time she ever replied to me was on 3/18/22: "Okonomiyaki — 03/18/2022
Hi, waiting for the manu to quote me on the shipping charges these few days before i send out the invoice and proceed with shipping."
So honestly I dont see how its not a scam at this point.
Post by: swyte on Thu, 04 August 2022, 12:12:08
This is Oko's sales website https://synaesthesia.online/, I see her address here. Has anyone in Singapore tried to find her yet?
So I've been looking for the address on the site but never found it. Do you still have it? I'm going to ask my friend in SG to check it out and pick mine up if possible. This is just ridiculous at this point.
Post by: chillchuck on Thu, 04 August 2022, 13:06:18
Post by: speedyzy on Thu, 04 August 2022, 15:56:48
oh yeah!!!
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 04 August 2022, 16:36:24
So there could be some fanciful story of illness, or that I do indeed have magical powers to be negative enough to prevent board fulfillment, or…what if it’s just a scammer?
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 04 August 2022, 23:37:45
Post by: kronograf on Fri, 05 August 2022, 02:28:16
Where are all these Oko's informations coming from? That seems to be quite odd that people are able to contact them, but somehow we couldn't. Is there like alternative Discord channel they have in SG?
Literally no idea - no background is ever given just someone with a piece of info. Legit could just be Oko shills trying to calm down the crowds.
You guys do know we actually have local keyboard Discord servers that aren't solely about Oko, right? Whatever folks like me are relaying here is just mostly snippets from people who bought into their local CRP GB and want to know where their stuff is.
I mean, if anyone wants to send me like $2000 I'll gladly go down and knock on their door and video it for y'all, but past that...
Post by: swyte on Fri, 05 August 2022, 09:41:55
Where are all these Oko's informations coming from? That seems to be quite odd that people are able to contact them, but somehow we couldn't. Is there like alternative Discord channel they have in SG?Literally no idea - no background is ever given just someone with a piece of info. Legit could just be Oko shills trying to calm down the crowds.
You guys do know we actually have local keyboard Discord servers that aren't solely about Oko, right? Whatever folks like me are relaying here is just mostly snippets from people who bought into their local CRP GB and want to know where their stuff is.
I mean, if anyone wants to send me like $2000 I'll gladly go down and knock on their door and video it for y'all, but past that...
If you know the address mind DM'ing it? I have a friend in SG willing to do that for about $2000 less and willing to pick mine up (if they truly exist). But I havent had any luck locating an address. Hoping that if I can find one we can at least have confirmation if he can pick mine up, instead of just rumors that local orders may have been picked up.
Post by: kiyoboard on Fri, 05 August 2022, 09:58:55
Where are all these Oko's informations coming from? That seems to be quite odd that people are able to contact them, but somehow we couldn't. Is there like alternative Discord channel they have in SG?Literally no idea - no background is ever given just someone with a piece of info. Legit could just be Oko shills trying to calm down the crowds.
You guys do know we actually have local keyboard Discord servers that aren't solely about Oko, right? Whatever folks like me are relaying here is just mostly snippets from people who bought into their local CRP GB and want to know where their stuff is.
I mean, if anyone wants to send me like $2000 I'll gladly go down and knock on their door and video it for y'all, but past that...
If you know the address mind DM'ing it? I have a friend in SG willing to do that for about $2000 less and willing to pick mine up (if they truly exist). But I havent had any luck locating an address. Hoping that if I can find one we can at least have confirmation if he can pick mine up, instead of just rumors that local orders may have been picked up.
As much as I want to get my board and also find out what actually is going on, I don't think sending random stranger to another stranger's home is the move here. I don't know about the laws in Singapore, but that might get your friend in trouble with police, I would think. Besides, I think it is not feasible that she has all the boards and just sitting with all those boards at home.
That said, I am also not sure what is the correct approach either. Probably a good start would be finding out if the boards are actually manufactured or not, if anyone knows the CNC factory Oko used.
Post by: kronograf on Fri, 05 August 2022, 10:39:17
Where are all these Oko's informations coming from? That seems to be quite odd that people are able to contact them, but somehow we couldn't. Is there like alternative Discord channel they have in SG?Literally no idea - no background is ever given just someone with a piece of info. Legit could just be Oko shills trying to calm down the crowds.
You guys do know we actually have local keyboard Discord servers that aren't solely about Oko, right? Whatever folks like me are relaying here is just mostly snippets from people who bought into their local CRP GB and want to know where their stuff is.
I mean, if anyone wants to send me like $2000 I'll gladly go down and knock on their door and video it for y'all, but past that...
If you know the address mind DM'ing it? I have a friend in SG willing to do that for about $2000 less and willing to pick mine up (if they truly exist). But I havent had any luck locating an address. Hoping that if I can find one we can at least have confirmation if he can pick mine up, instead of just rumors that local orders may have been picked up.
It’s on their vendor website.
Post by: swyte on Fri, 05 August 2022, 12:22:11
Where are all these Oko's informations coming from? That seems to be quite odd that people are able to contact them, but somehow we couldn't. Is there like alternative Discord channel they have in SG?Literally no idea - no background is ever given just someone with a piece of info. Legit could just be Oko shills trying to calm down the crowds.
You guys do know we actually have local keyboard Discord servers that aren't solely about Oko, right? Whatever folks like me are relaying here is just mostly snippets from people who bought into their local CRP GB and want to know where their stuff is.
I mean, if anyone wants to send me like $2000 I'll gladly go down and knock on their door and video it for y'all, but past that...
If you know the address mind DM'ing it? I have a friend in SG willing to do that for about $2000 less and willing to pick mine up (if they truly exist). But I havent had any luck locating an address. Hoping that if I can find one we can at least have confirmation if he can pick mine up, instead of just rumors that local orders may have been picked up.
It’s on their vendor website.
https://synaesthesia.online/ ? It's not on there.
Post by: kronograf on Fri, 05 August 2022, 20:48:14
Where are all these Oko's informations coming from? That seems to be quite odd that people are able to contact them, but somehow we couldn't. Is there like alternative Discord channel they have in SG?Literally no idea - no background is ever given just someone with a piece of info. Legit could just be Oko shills trying to calm down the crowds.
You guys do know we actually have local keyboard Discord servers that aren't solely about Oko, right? Whatever folks like me are relaying here is just mostly snippets from people who bought into their local CRP GB and want to know where their stuff is.
I mean, if anyone wants to send me like $2000 I'll gladly go down and knock on their door and video it for y'all, but past that...
If you know the address mind DM'ing it? I have a friend in SG willing to do that for about $2000 less and willing to pick mine up (if they truly exist). But I havent had any luck locating an address. Hoping that if I can find one we can at least have confirmation if he can pick mine up, instead of just rumors that local orders may have been picked up.
It’s on their vendor website.
https://synaesthesia.online/ ? It's not on there.
It’s on the “Refund policy” page.
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Fri, 12 August 2022, 09:01:41
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 12 August 2022, 09:43:28
For the most part, a foreigner going for Singapore small claims court isn’t feasible, but I’d be happy to help monetarily because I’d be very, very interested in some of the details that would come out of it.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 12 August 2022, 10:56:22
Post by: BSGalaxy on Mon, 22 August 2022, 11:27:58
Post by: Tyson on Mon, 22 August 2022, 15:26:40
First time attaching an image so I hope it shows up right lol. This cropped up in the messages of the voice-chat part of Oko's discord server. Figured it was some kind of update I guess? And wanted to put it here. Unsure of what happened to Oko and I hope that their health isn't in shambles or something drastic, but if it's actually just them ghosting, that sucks.
Don't do that. Don't give me hope. :-[
If I don't get this board no worries, I was scammed by Teslatron, then Woodkeys, now Oko. I'm done with board GBs after this one. I pray everyone will get their boards and I would be willing to PM Kevinsunbo my information with proof of purchase for this buy if need be.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 22 August 2022, 15:42:46
Don't do that. Don't give me hope. :-[
If I don't get this board no worries, I was scammed by Teslatron, then Woodkeys, now Oko. I'm done with board GBs after this one. I pray everyone will get their boards and I would be willing to PM Kevinsunbo my information with proof of purchase for this buy if need be.
You think caps GBs are free from scammers? Think again. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84178.0
I hope you get your boards though.
Post by: swyte on Mon, 22 August 2022, 18:45:13
First time attaching an image so I hope it shows up right lol. This cropped up in the messages of the voice-chat part of Oko's discord server. Figured it was some kind of update I guess? And wanted to put it here. Unsure of what happened to Oko and I hope that their health isn't in shambles or something drastic, but if it's actually just them ghosting, that sucks.
I mean it sounds like she just didn't pay the manufacturer in full. I can only think that she either freaked because she didn't charge enough for the KB or used part of the money for something else and can't think of a way to explain it or just straight up ghosted with the money.
I feel like any comment or explanation of the situation from Oko would go a long way with everyone but she has actively closed all avenues of communication on Discord and doesnt respond to emails or geekhack comments so I think there is something sketchy going on.
Post by: playsbymd on Wed, 24 August 2022, 12:41:05
First time attaching an image so I hope it shows up right lol. This cropped up in the messages of the voice-chat part of Oko's discord server. Figured it was some kind of update I guess? And wanted to put it here. Unsure of what happened to Oko and I hope that their health isn't in shambles or something drastic, but if it's actually just them ghosting, that sucks.
How are they going to collect the addresses?
Post by: chillchuck on Wed, 24 August 2022, 12:50:46
First time attaching an image so I hope it shows up right lol. This cropped up in the messages of the voice-chat part of Oko's discord server. Figured it was some kind of update I guess? And wanted to put it here. Unsure of what happened to Oko and I hope that their health isn't in shambles or something drastic, but if it's actually just them ghosting, that sucks.
How are they going to collect the addresses?
I asked this same question in Discord. Kevinsunbo's response was:
"Eve（moon maker）and I will post on GH to collect the address. Moon will be done first."
So I guess just keep notifications on for this thread and eventually we'll hear something from them. But we've heard stuff like that before haha.
I wonder why the Manu would be willing to part with the boards without full payment, maybe they can file some kind of insurance claim to get the rest of the money or can pursue Oko in a more official capacity? I don't know.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 24 August 2022, 13:13:51
I asked this same question in Discord. Kevinsunbo's response was:
"Eve（moon maker）and I will post on GH to collect the address. Moon will be done first."
So I guess just keep notifications on for this thread and eventually we'll hear something from them. But we've heard stuff like that before haha.
I wonder why the Manu would be willing to part with the boards without full payment, maybe they can file some kind of insurance claim to get the rest of the money or can pursue Oko in a more official capacity? I don't know.
Manu would rather be done with this than having all the boards taking up warehouse space. Just my guess.
Post by: chillchuck on Wed, 24 August 2022, 13:22:12
I asked this same question in Discord. Kevinsunbo's response was:
"Eve（moon maker）and I will post on GH to collect the address. Moon will be done first."
So I guess just keep notifications on for this thread and eventually we'll hear something from them. But we've heard stuff like that before haha.
I wonder why the Manu would be willing to part with the boards without full payment, maybe they can file some kind of insurance claim to get the rest of the money or can pursue Oko in a more official capacity? I don't know.
Manu would rather be done with this than having all the boards taking up warehouse space. Just my guess.
Yea, I thought about that as well. Just would suck for them to have to eat that cost. Well the situation sucks for everyone involved actually haha, maybe we'll get dinged a little harder on the shipping invoice.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 24 August 2022, 15:28:03
I asked this same question in Discord. Kevinsunbo's response was:
"Eve（moon maker）and I will post on GH to collect the address. Moon will be done first."
So I guess just keep notifications on for this thread and eventually we'll hear something from them. But we've heard stuff like that before haha.
I wonder why the Manu would be willing to part with the boards without full payment, maybe they can file some kind of insurance claim to get the rest of the money or can pursue Oko in a more official capacity? I don't know.
Manu would rather be done with this than having all the boards taking up warehouse space. Just my guess.
Yea, I thought about that as well. Just would suck for them to have to eat that cost. Well the situation sucks for everyone involved actually haha, maybe we'll get dinged a little harder on the shipping invoice.
the manu for this board has their own record of shady **** so i'm not super peeved by that
it's not at all unusual for a manu to take half up front and half at delivery, what is unusual is that the person who is supposed to take delivery skipped out
Post by: directheatedtriode on Thu, 25 August 2022, 15:44:42
First time attaching an image so I hope it shows up right lol. This cropped up in the messages of the voice-chat part of Oko's discord server. Figured it was some kind of update I guess? And wanted to put it here. Unsure of what happened to Oko and I hope that their health isn't in shambles or something drastic, but if it's actually just them ghosting, that sucks.
How are they going to collect the addresses?
I asked this same question in Discord. Kevinsunbo's response was:
"Eve（moon maker）and I will post on GH to collect the address. Moon will be done first."
So I guess just keep notifications on for this thread and eventually we'll hear something from them. But we've heard stuff like that before haha.
I wonder why the Manu would be willing to part with the boards without full payment, maybe they can file some kind of insurance claim to get the rest of the money or can pursue Oko in a more official capacity? I don't know.
I'm probably asking a really dumb question but which Discord channel is this?
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 25 August 2022, 16:23:26
I'm probably asking a really dumb question but which Discord channel is this?
https://discord.gg/BajBbFVE
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 26 August 2022, 10:06:39
First time attaching an image so I hope it shows up right lol. This cropped up in the messages of the voice-chat part of Oko's discord server. Figured it was some kind of update I guess? And wanted to put it here. Unsure of what happened to Oko and I hope that their health isn't in shambles or something drastic, but if it's actually just them ghosting, that sucks.
How are they going to collect the addresses?
I asked this same question in Discord. Kevinsunbo's response was:
"Eve（moon maker）and I will post on GH to collect the address. Moon will be done first."
So I guess just keep notifications on for this thread and eventually we'll hear something from them. But we've heard stuff like that before haha.
I wonder why the Manu would be willing to part with the boards without full payment, maybe they can file some kind of insurance claim to get the rest of the money or can pursue Oko in a more official capacity? I don't know.
I'm probably asking a really dumb question but which Discord channel is this?
Technically it's not an actually Discord channel per say, Oko locked all of the channels in her server, what we are doing is going to the General Voice Chat, there is an option to look at the current thread in VC to keep communication out of channels while in VC. It's a new feature that Discord added. So people have been trying to chat in there. That's where the convo is happening.
Post by: volution on Mon, 29 August 2022, 01:14:25
If you are in the Moon TKL and or Belle En Rose group buy and has had conversations with her, if you could provide your receipts, Name and Phone number regardless of local or international. I am going to compile and build a case and proceed to the local authorities if nothing is going to happen in a few weeks. If you would like to and are ok with the chance of the local authorities calling to confirm the situation, please PM me with the details as i start building the details while waiting for any further details.
If you do have any conversations with her regarding these 2 GBs prior to the complete communication cut off and wouldn't mind providing the details it would help greatly too.
First off, i cannot make any guarantees that anything will come of it. However, Singapore has very stern laws.
Secondly, i have pmed a global moderator to obtain permission to do this before proceeding.
Thirdly, by providing your information and receipts you are also agreeing that the local authorities may or may not contact you for confirmation/questions regarding the matter.
As much as i would like to say i have faith in a GB runner based on past merits, i'm not taking the risk of waiting too long until its way past the point of anything could be done anymore. This has happened far too many times in the past to the point the GB runners get away scot free with all the money in tow. If the GB runner could not have the responsibilty and or courtesy to even provide basic updates regarding the problem there really isn't any point in trying anymore.
For the benefit of the doubt i will be giving another 2-3 weeks to see if anything is actually done while trying to communicate with her partner.
If you have any details and receipts you would like to provide that would allow me to build the case while waiting please PM me.
Post by: sl4ppy on Mon, 29 August 2022, 11:03:02
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 29 August 2022, 11:53:46
Post by: volution on Mon, 29 August 2022, 12:16:08
Earlier this month i spoke to Oko on the only way contactable to her now and asked her about the belle and was told the ETA was mid August. However, over the past few days i have been trying to get an update for her and is now completely ghosted. I have pmed this partner of hers that was providing the updates regarding the keyboards are going to get shipped regardless and informed him that if no tangible actions are taken within these few weeks i am proceeding to the local authorities. He replied saying that he will be negotiating with the manufacturer to get it done however he also said the same thing a week ago.
If you are in the Moon TKL and or Belle En Rose group buy and has had conversations with her, if you could provide your receipts, Name and Phone number regardless of local or international. I am going to compile and build a case and proceed to the local authorities if nothing is going to happen in a few weeks. If you would like to and are ok with the chance of the local authorities calling to confirm the situation, please PM me with the details as i start building the details while waiting for any further details.
If you do have any conversations with her regarding these 2 GBs prior to the complete communication cut off and wouldn't mind providing the details it would help greatly too.
First off, i cannot make any guarantees that anything will come of it. However, Singapore has very stern laws.
Secondly, i have pmed a global moderator to obtain permission to do this before proceeding.
Thirdly, by providing your information and receipts you are also agreeing that the local authorities may or may not contact you for confirmation/questions regarding the matter.
As much as i would like to say i have faith in a GB runner based on past merits, i'm not taking the risk of waiting too long until its way past the point of anything could be done anymore. This has happened far too many times in the past to the point the GB runners get away scot free with all the money in tow. If the GB runner could not have the responsibilty and or courtesy to even provide basic updates regarding the problem there really isn't any point in trying anymore.
For the benefit of the doubt i will be giving another 2-3 weeks to see if anything is actually done while trying to communicate with her partner.
If you have any details and receipts you would like to provide that would allow me to build the case while waiting please PM me.
To provide some updates after speaking to her partner. He has not had any contact with her since the 18th of June and according to him the manufacturer could not contact her at all. Only half the amount has been paid the rest are nowhere to be seen. In early this month i was still able to contact her through her local number but she is also completely ghosting that form of communication now, also some of the CRP orders were still yet to be delivered despite people mentioning that you could go self collect. People with the rest of the CRP orders are being ghosted as well.
This leads me to believe this person no intention of ever delivering anything anymore.
As yicaoyimu has suggested you could use that link and get in contact with me as well. Someone has posted that message on my behalf in there.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 29 August 2022, 15:00:30
volution will send you a PM.
Post by: volution on Mon, 29 August 2022, 15:04:08
If anyone bought things from her Shopify store I would suggest you contact Shopify as well, they do not take fraud very lightly. This coming from my partner that runs a Shopify store that has had to resolve stuff from years ago.
volution will send you a PM.
I have actually tried contacting shopify and reporting a fraud using their fraud report function. After sending in the information there was a disclaimer saying that shopify does not handle disputes and the information would be forwarded to the vendor instead.
Post by: volution on Wed, 31 August 2022, 08:01:41
I’ve also spoken to her China business partner and he has also agreed to work with me and gave me his contact details to try to resolve this. They also have had lost contact with her on QQ and discord too.
I have since given Oko an ultimatum that if she does not reply me within 2 weeks I would be proceeding with the local authorities. She seems to be replying to random CRP participants through the same contact but is choosing to ignore any queries regarding the 2 board GBs.
If you would like to provide more details and evidence, you may contact me through the methods on the thread.
You can choose to omit all personal sensitive details when providing the receipts however, leaving your name and contact number for confirmation goes a long way.
Post by: chillchuck on Wed, 31 August 2022, 09:09:57
So far, 4 people has come forward with receipts and details for these 2 GBs.
I’ve also spoken to her China business partner and he has also agreed to work with me and gave me his contact details to try to resolve this. They also have had lost contact with her on QQ and discord too.
I have since given Oko an ultimatum that if she does not reply me within 2 weeks I would be proceeding with the local authorities. She seems to be replying to random CRP participants through the same contact but is choosing to ignore any queries regarding the 2 board GBs.
If you would like to provide more details and evidence, you may contact me through the methods on the thread.
You can choose to omit all personal sensitive details when providing the receipts however, leaving your name and contact number for confirmation goes a long way.
Are you working toward getting the boards delivered as well or exclusively pursuing this from a legal standpoint?
Post by: volution on Wed, 31 August 2022, 09:54:24
So far, 4 people has come forward with receipts and details for these 2 GBs.
I’ve also spoken to her China business partner and he has also agreed to work with me and gave me his contact details to try to resolve this. They also have had lost contact with her on QQ and discord too.
I have since given Oko an ultimatum that if she does not reply me within 2 weeks I would be proceeding with the local authorities. She seems to be replying to random CRP participants through the same contact but is choosing to ignore any queries regarding the 2 board GBs.
If you would like to provide more details and evidence, you may contact me through the methods on the thread.
You can choose to omit all personal sensitive details when providing the receipts however, leaving your name and contact number for confirmation goes a long way.
Are you working toward getting the boards delivered as well or exclusively pursuing this from a legal standpoint?
Only working with him to from a legal standpoint. The person responsible for the rest of the payment has disappeared so even if the partner wishes to ship the boards i would at least like for the person responsible to have the payment ready or answer to the authorities first. As far as i can tell the sole responsibility lies on Oko for fulfilling the rest of the payment as the partner is only helping with dealing with the china side of logistics.
Post by: volution on Thu, 01 September 2022, 02:57:17
So far, 4 people has come forward with receipts and details for these 2 GBs.
I’ve also spoken to her China business partner and he has also agreed to work with me and gave me his contact details to try to resolve this. They also have had lost contact with her on QQ and discord too.
I have since given Oko an ultimatum that if she does not reply me within 2 weeks I would be proceeding with the local authorities. She seems to be replying to random CRP participants through the same contact but is choosing to ignore any queries regarding the 2 board GBs.
If you would like to provide more details and evidence, you may contact me through the methods on the thread.
You can choose to omit all personal sensitive details when providing the receipts however, leaving your name and contact number for confirmation goes a long way.
I have some good and bad news regarding the matter.
The good news is Oko has refunded me. However, she didn't offer any explanations whatsoever, she just said it won't be ready soon and straight up refunded me.
The bad news is since she has refunded me, from a legal standpoint i'm at an impasse as monetarily wise or in terms of obligations to me as a customer, it is no longer tied to me.
Here's what i can do however, i can try to pass the helm to someone else if they are up for it and if all parties including her business partner is in agreement, if not i would have to delete everything i have so far.
If you would like to know more details or wants to take over the case you can contact me and we can work things out.
Post by: volution on Thu, 01 September 2022, 07:24:04
Post by: chillchuck on Thu, 01 September 2022, 08:41:40
So far, 4 people has come forward with receipts and details for these 2 GBs.
I’ve also spoken to her China business partner and he has also agreed to work with me and gave me his contact details to try to resolve this. They also have had lost contact with her on QQ and discord too.
I have since given Oko an ultimatum that if she does not reply me within 2 weeks I would be proceeding with the local authorities. She seems to be replying to random CRP participants through the same contact but is choosing to ignore any queries regarding the 2 board GBs.
If you would like to provide more details and evidence, you may contact me through the methods on the thread.
You can choose to omit all personal sensitive details when providing the receipts however, leaving your name and contact number for confirmation goes a long way.
I have some good and bad news regarding the matter.
The good news is Oko has refunded me. However, she didn't offer any explanations whatsoever, she just said it won't be ready soon and straight up refunded me.
The bad news is since she has refunded me, from a legal standpoint i'm at an impasse as monetarily wise or in terms of obligations to me as a customer, it is no longer tied to me.
Here's what i can do however, i can try to pass the helm to someone else if they are up for it and if all parties including her business partner is in agreement, if not i would have to delete everything i have so far.
If you would like to know more details or wants to take over the case you can contact me and we can work things out.
She refunded you and told you the boards wouldn't be ready any time soon? Would you mind sharing a transcript of what was said? This is the first time I've heard of her responding to anything. I guess she only responded because you were actually building a case? I appreciate you putting into work but I don't know if anyone outside of Singapore can take up the mantle haha.
Post by: volution on Thu, 01 September 2022, 08:57:42
So far, 4 people has come forward with receipts and details for these 2 GBs.
I’ve also spoken to her China business partner and he has also agreed to work with me and gave me his contact details to try to resolve this. They also have had lost contact with her on QQ and discord too.
I have since given Oko an ultimatum that if she does not reply me within 2 weeks I would be proceeding with the local authorities. She seems to be replying to random CRP participants through the same contact but is choosing to ignore any queries regarding the 2 board GBs.
If you would like to provide more details and evidence, you may contact me through the methods on the thread.
You can choose to omit all personal sensitive details when providing the receipts however, leaving your name and contact number for confirmation goes a long way.
I have some good and bad news regarding the matter.
The good news is Oko has refunded me. However, she didn't offer any explanations whatsoever, she just said it won't be ready soon and straight up refunded me.
The bad news is since she has refunded me, from a legal standpoint i'm at an impasse as monetarily wise or in terms of obligations to me as a customer, it is no longer tied to me.
Here's what i can do however, i can try to pass the helm to someone else if they are up for it and if all parties including her business partner is in agreement, if not i would have to delete everything i have so far.
If you would like to know more details or wants to take over the case you can contact me and we can work things out.
She refunded you and told you the boards wouldn't be ready any time soon? Would you mind sharing a transcript of what was said? This is the first time I've heard of her responding to anything. I guess she only responded because you were actually building a case? I appreciate you putting into work but I don't know if anyone outside of Singapore can take up the mantle haha.
Yes, however this was regarding belle i have no idea about Moon TKL. There is something else going on with the Moon TKL and another local has more information, i will leave it up to him to share the details as he is the one in direct contact.
Post by: chillchuck on Thu, 01 September 2022, 09:05:52
So far, 4 people has come forward with receipts and details for these 2 GBs.
I’ve also spoken to her China business partner and he has also agreed to work with me and gave me his contact details to try to resolve this. They also have had lost contact with her on QQ and discord too.
I have since given Oko an ultimatum that if she does not reply me within 2 weeks I would be proceeding with the local authorities. She seems to be replying to random CRP participants through the same contact but is choosing to ignore any queries regarding the 2 board GBs.
If you would like to provide more details and evidence, you may contact me through the methods on the thread.
You can choose to omit all personal sensitive details when providing the receipts however, leaving your name and contact number for confirmation goes a long way.
I have some good and bad news regarding the matter.
The good news is Oko has refunded me. However, she didn't offer any explanations whatsoever, she just said it won't be ready soon and straight up refunded me.
The bad news is since she has refunded me, from a legal standpoint i'm at an impasse as monetarily wise or in terms of obligations to me as a customer, it is no longer tied to me.
Here's what i can do however, i can try to pass the helm to someone else if they are up for it and if all parties including her business partner is in agreement, if not i would have to delete everything i have so far.
If you would like to know more details or wants to take over the case you can contact me and we can work things out.
She refunded you and told you the boards wouldn't be ready any time soon? Would you mind sharing a transcript of what was said? This is the first time I've heard of her responding to anything. I guess she only responded because you were actually building a case? I appreciate you putting into work but I don't know if anyone outside of Singapore can take up the mantle haha.
Yes, however this was regarding belle i have no idea about Moon TKL. There is something else going on with the Moon TKL and another local has more information, i will leave it up to him to share the details as he is the one in direct contact.
Got ya, I appreciate the effort you went through! At least someone got some feedback and their money back. It looks like she locked that last general channel in Discord so all communication has to be on Geekhack for now. I plan on setting up another discord and post it here by the end of the weekend for Oko group buy participants that want to stay in touch, Geekhack isn't the easiest to keep track of everything.
Post by: Mearaz on Thu, 01 September 2022, 09:36:53
Here is what I know so far.
1) oko is running multiple groupbuys that is undelivered.
2) oko and 1 other person are/"were" working together on the groupbuys.
3) oko has not paid the manufacturer the remaining "half" of the cost.
4) oko is ghosting the manufacturer and her business partner in china Kevin.
5) from the order confirmation list, there is about 16 Singaporeans(that is if they all paid up) in the groupbuy. I do not know what the international orders are.
6) I tried to reach out to her on discord to no avail. I finally msg her on whatsapp and also got ghosted. Until I threaten to go to the police, she replied.
Here is my conversation with her.
Post by: ricesteam on Thu, 01 September 2022, 14:50:57
Post by: shansoft on Fri, 02 September 2022, 01:39:28
At this point, I don't think she even bother to ship out anything in the end. Based on all the lies she made, most likely money were spent somewhere and couldn't pay up manufacturer.
Sign me up for local authority step.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 02 September 2022, 15:32:44
Looks like Oko realize that we been chatting over the discord channel and locked the voice chat.
At this point, I don't think she even bother to ship out anything in the end. Based on all the lies she made, most likely money were spent somewhere and couldn't pay up manufacturer.
Sign me up for local authority step.
Let's just appreciate the fact that she hasn't locked this thread yet lol
Post by: hungtranm18 on Sat, 03 September 2022, 01:21:11
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 03 September 2022, 01:39:34
The good news is that Oko just updated her discord on moon v2
I wouldn’t believe anything she said until the board is in my hand.
Post by: maximm on Sat, 03 September 2022, 02:02:10
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 03 September 2022, 09:30:43
Still interested in paying to have her served. If she can produce the boards, the civil suit can stop.
Post by: hungtranm18 on Sat, 03 September 2022, 10:10:44
Post by: kiyoboard on Sat, 03 September 2022, 10:13:22
Spoken to Kevin and liaising with Eve, the listing will be sent over to Eve for shipping before 8th for moon.
Maybe I am too cynical, but he also seem to be biding time. First he was telling Oko is sick, busy, Covid etc. Later he claimed that he will collect names and addresses by the end of last month, by posting here which didn't happen. And now it is 8th.
Also it doesn't sound reasonable to me that a manu just shipping out products with only half of the money. It would be nice if he showed his conversation with Eve confirming this.
That said, I really like this board. I hope to be wrong and get my board.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 03 September 2022, 10:57:15
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sun, 04 September 2022, 19:20:15
Greatest apologies for the non-communication for the personal reasons I have. It is my fault.
1. I have unlocked the General chat in my Discord, but I intend to use for project update and communication.
2. The listing of addresses had been sent to Eve today. Awaiting for his communication.
3. Downpayment of the boards amounting to 75% of the total GB was made previously, the only portion not paid is the final retention fee upon GB end, and shipping not collected.
4. For any changes in your mailing address please kindly PM me.
Post by: singabore on Tue, 06 September 2022, 11:05:42
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Wed, 28 September 2022, 23:18:24
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Post by: swagcameleon on Sun, 02 October 2022, 07:46:18
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 17 October 2022, 19:08:34
Post by: Tyson on Mon, 31 October 2022, 16:16:50
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 31 October 2022, 16:25:13
Why would anyone believe in any word that she said. She's full of it and she only said those things to delay legal action.
Post by: kiyoboard on Mon, 31 October 2022, 18:33:17
Oko locked chat again. IOVERCALL doxxed her name real name and she locked general chat. She had been cooperative up until then mentioning that she was contacting SF Express to figure out the cost for shipping. She mentioned that things were being discussed and packed. This was all posted on the 29th. If anyone needs to contact her they should reach out in PMs on discord. One day I’ll get this board!
I wouldn't call it doxxing since that name is in https://synaesthesia.online/blogs/news. I don't condone their behavior on discord, since you are not going to win any arguments behaving that way even if you are right, but at the same time I wouldn't call Oko being cooperative just because we were getting one liner "updates" every few weeks. And pretty much every update was after some time from a missed deadline. And at this stage I think it should be obvious that before asking for more money, it is pretty much required to have some more concrete proof like photos of the boards rather than some chat message which can be easily manufactured. That said, I share the hope that I will get this board one day :)
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 31 October 2022, 20:52:56
Post by: idiot on Mon, 31 October 2022, 23:25:33
Post by: shansoft on Tue, 01 November 2022, 04:02:44
Oko locked chat again. IOVERCALL doxxed her name real name and she locked general chat. She had been cooperative up until then mentioning that she was contacting SF Express to figure out the cost for shipping. She mentioned that things were being discussed and packed. This was all posted on the 29th. If anyone needs to contact her they should reach out in PMs on discord. One day I’ll get this board!
It's not doxxing when her name is literally on her website.....
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Tue, 01 November 2022, 09:05:26
Post by: drunken0monkey on Tue, 01 November 2022, 11:56:32
Oko locked chat again. IOVERCALL doxxed her name real name and she locked general chat. She had been cooperative up until then mentioning that she was contacting SF Express to figure out the cost for shipping. She mentioned that things were being discussed and packed. This was all posted on the 29th. If anyone needs to contact her they should reach out in PMs on discord. One day I’ll get this board!
I wouldn't call it doxxing since that name is in https://synaesthesia.online/blogs/news. I don't condone their behavior on discord, since you are not going to win any arguments behaving that way even if you are right, but at the same time I wouldn't call Oko being cooperative just because we were getting one liner "updates" every few weeks. And pretty much every update was after some time from a missed deadline. And at this stage I think it should be obvious that before asking for more money, it is pretty much required to have some more concrete proof like photos of the boards rather than some chat message which can be easily manufactured. That said, I share the hope that I will get this board one day :)
I agree with your general statement here. Except I don't share your optimism. As a result I requested a full refund immediately. I'm not hopeful that I will receive a response.
Post by: shansoft on Sat, 05 November 2022, 03:25:02
Oko locked chat again. IOVERCALL doxxed her name real name and she locked general chat. She had been cooperative up until then mentioning that she was contacting SF Express to figure out the cost for shipping. She mentioned that things were being discussed and packed. This was all posted on the 29th. If anyone needs to contact her they should reach out in PMs on discord. One day I’ll get this board!
I wouldn't call it doxxing since that name is in https://synaesthesia.online/blogs/news. I don't condone their behavior on discord, since you are not going to win any arguments behaving that way even if you are right, but at the same time I wouldn't call Oko being cooperative just because we were getting one liner "updates" every few weeks. And pretty much every update was after some time from a missed deadline. And at this stage I think it should be obvious that before asking for more money, it is pretty much required to have some more concrete proof like photos of the boards rather than some chat message which can be easily manufactured. That said, I share the hope that I will get this board one day :)
I agree with your general statement here. Except I don't share your optimism. As a result I requested a full refund immediately. I'm not hopeful that I will receive a response.
Did you get your refund?
I have sent messages to her multiple times, and no response at all.
Said it will collect the shipping in the next 3 days, which has been more than 1-2 weeks at this point....
At this point I would like a full refund as well. It's ridiculous how little communications are there. Could simply explains what the situations are and don't leave people in the dark.
Post by: drunken0monkey on Sat, 05 November 2022, 19:03:11
Oko locked chat again. IOVERCALL doxxed her name real name and she locked general chat. She had been cooperative up until then mentioning that she was contacting SF Express to figure out the cost for shipping. She mentioned that things were being discussed and packed. This was all posted on the 29th. If anyone needs to contact her they should reach out in PMs on discord. One day I’ll get this board!
I wouldn't call it doxxing since that name is in https://synaesthesia.online/blogs/news. I don't condone their behavior on discord, since you are not going to win any arguments behaving that way even if you are right, but at the same time I wouldn't call Oko being cooperative just because we were getting one liner "updates" every few weeks. And pretty much every update was after some time from a missed deadline. And at this stage I think it should be obvious that before asking for more money, it is pretty much required to have some more concrete proof like photos of the boards rather than some chat message which can be easily manufactured. That said, I share the hope that I will get this board one day :)
I agree with your general statement here. Except I don't share your optimism. As a result I requested a full refund immediately. I'm not hopeful that I will receive a response.
Did you get your refund?
I have sent messages to her multiple times, and no response at all.
Said it will collect the shipping in the next 3 days, which has been more than 1-2 weeks at this point....
At this point I would like a full refund as well. It's ridiculous how little communications are there. Could simply explains what the situations are and don't leave people in the dark.
I did not receive a reply or any acknowledgement of the request. I'll post here if things change.
Post by: stimuz on Sun, 06 November 2022, 20:11:30
Post by: maximm on Mon, 07 November 2022, 08:14:45
Post by: Hern on Mon, 07 November 2022, 10:53:18
Seems like a lose lose no matter what
What is everyone else planning on doing?
Post by: kiyoboard on Mon, 07 November 2022, 17:50:48
So it seems refund is not an option and we are being forced to pay for shipping invoices that are to come...soon which may not even mean we get our boards.
Seems like a lose lose no matter what
What is everyone else planning on doing?
I am personally planning to do the payment with a credit card and wait couple of weeks to see if there is actually shipping or not. If not, I will just do a chargeback.
Post by: chillchuck on Tue, 08 November 2022, 11:57:57
Post by: drunken0monkey on Wed, 09 November 2022, 09:36:26
Post by: soloplayer on Tue, 15 November 2022, 03:13:13
yo suddenly i received my board
Post by: hungtranm18 on Tue, 15 November 2022, 07:01:28
Post by: Rew23 on Tue, 15 November 2022, 10:00:01
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yo suddenly i received my board
Did you pay for a shipping invoice?
Post by: soloplayer on Tue, 15 November 2022, 10:09:37
which country are you from ? I told Oko to send my moon to my proxy in china, but it's been 2 months I haven't received any tracking numberthe same as you, but i guess i'm lucky
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yo suddenly i received my board
Did you pay for a shipping invoice?
i havent received any
Post by: chillchuck on Mon, 21 November 2022, 08:22:19
Post by: drunken0monkey on Tue, 22 November 2022, 19:14:38
Oko, considering what I know about the situation, I believe it would be to your benefit to let people know what is happening in detail. This isn't a scam like others suggested based on my knowledge, which is limited. I think there are better ways to deal with this than what Oko has settled on, but I don't know that.
Only reason I'm posting this is because I've been vocal about being upset and feel it's fair to update as additional details become available. Please note that I don't have a way to help you get your keyboard; this was luck, timing and a lot of help. I can answer any questions people may have.
Post by: BSGalaxy on Tue, 22 November 2022, 19:58:07
With a bit of good timing, a ton of good will from a stranger, and a bit of luck I managed to get my keyboard. I can confirm that it exists and looks really nice. I'm in North America.
Oko, considering what I know about the situation, I believe it would be to your benefit to let people know what is happening in detail. This isn't a scam like others suggested based on my knowledge, which is limited. I think there are better ways to deal with this than what Oko has settled on, but I don't know that.
Only reason I'm posting this is because I've been vocal about being upset and feel it's fair to update as additional details become available. Please note that I don't have a way to help you get your keyboard; this was luck, timing and a lot of help. I can answer any questions people may have.
Hey, thanks for posting this, it's good to know that they properly exist and are being (albeit slowly) shipped to some people. I guess my only question would be do I -have- to get additional help or do you think there's a good chance it will show up one day at my doorstep in the future lol.
Post by: drunken0monkey on Tue, 22 November 2022, 20:55:26
With a bit of good timing, a ton of good will from a stranger, and a bit of luck I managed to get my keyboard. I can confirm that it exists and looks really nice. I'm in North America.
Oko, considering what I know about the situation, I believe it would be to your benefit to let people know what is happening in detail. This isn't a scam like others suggested based on my knowledge, which is limited. I think there are better ways to deal with this than what Oko has settled on, but I don't know that.
Only reason I'm posting this is because I've been vocal about being upset and feel it's fair to update as additional details become available. Please note that I don't have a way to help you get your keyboard; this was luck, timing and a lot of help. I can answer any questions people may have.
Hey, thanks for posting this, it's good to know that they properly exist and are being (albeit slowly) shipped to some people. I guess my only question would be do I -have- to get additional help or do you think there's a good chance it will show up one day at my doorstep in the future lol.
Unfortunately, that question I'm not able to answer with any level of confidence. What I can say is that I didn't get my board through Oko or anyone connected with her directly. I think she is, or at least was trying to find a way to get them from the manufacturer to buyers. The problem as I understand it sounds resolvable (some creativity may be required), so in my opinion there's a non-zero chance of getting your boards eventually.
I know that isn't much comfort, but I don't want to mislead by posting details I'm not fully informed on.
Post by: Rew23 on Sun, 04 December 2022, 09:30:02
Post by: ricesteam on Thu, 08 December 2022, 20:56:06
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Mon, 12 December 2022, 14:46:28
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Post by: swagcameleon on Wed, 14 December 2022, 09:20:41
Checked after forgetting that i went into this GB, may someone send me the discord server ?
Also, for my part, haven't received any invoices or anything, last contact with Oko was almost a year ago, for my address confirmation...
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Wed, 14 December 2022, 11:18:41
Hey,
Checked after forgetting that i went into this GB, may someone send me the discord server ?
Also, for my part, haven't received any invoices or anything, last contact with Oko was almost a year ago, for my address confirmation...
Sent you an invite
Post by: Hern on Sun, 18 December 2022, 17:58:26
I have not gotten any responses in several months and no sign of getting the board either so have reached out to some outside sources which is looking like it will cost much more than the board itself in fees but probably for a good cause.
I am available on most socials as Hern / Herner so if anyone wants to provide any information as well I may be able to get something on track once again.
Thanks - Will definitely be updating in the coming days/weeks as paperwork is finalized.
Post by: shansoft on Mon, 19 December 2022, 20:24:55
Beginning to gather information for legal action myself since a few others have backed down.
I have not gotten any responses in several months and no sign of getting the board either so have reached out to some outside sources which is looking like it will cost much more than the board itself in fees but probably for a good cause.
I am available on most socials as Hern / Herner so if anyone wants to provide any information as well I may be able to get something on track once again.
Thanks - Will definitely be updating in the coming days/weeks as paperwork is finalized.
Add me to the list..... Its getting ridiculous that no response even after I DM her many times, including emails.
Post by: hungtranm18 on Fri, 23 December 2022, 11:10:58
Beginning to gather information for legal action myself since a few others have backed down.
I have not gotten any responses in several months and no sign of getting the board either so have reached out to some outside sources which is looking like it will cost much more than the board itself in fees but probably for a good cause.
I am available on most socials as Hern / Herner so if anyone wants to provide any information as well I may be able to get something on track once again.
Thanks - Will definitely be updating in the coming days/weeks as paperwork is finalized.
Add me to the list..... Its getting ridiculous that no response even after I DM her many times, including emails.
please add me to your list
Post by: defzone on Fri, 23 December 2022, 16:10:48
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Post by: kiyoboard on Fri, 23 December 2022, 16:42:54
Beginning to gather information for legal action myself since a few others have backed down.
I have not gotten any responses in several months and no sign of getting the board either so have reached out to some outside sources which is looking like it will cost much more than the board itself in fees but probably for a good cause.
I am available on most socials as Hern / Herner so if anyone wants to provide any information as well I may be able to get something on track once again.
Thanks - Will definitely be updating in the coming days/weeks as paperwork is finalized.
I am also still waiting for the board, and would be happy if the GB runner is held responsible one way or another. But not sure what the expectation is from having such a list? You said "so have reached out to some outside sources which is looking like it will cost much more than the board itself in fees but probably for a good cause." so are you looking for people to send you money to be able to pay for the lawyer cost? Don't think I would be willing to send money to yet another stranger to save money that I lost to a stranger.
Post by: chillchuck on Sat, 24 December 2022, 16:35:42
Post by: ricesteam on Mon, 26 December 2022, 22:40:00
Now, if only there was a way to communicate with the factory directly...
Based on some people inexplicably getting their boards and it seems like Drunken being able to get theirs by working through a 3rd party and negotiating with the factory directly. I think the most effective path to actually getting a board in hand would probably be to go around Oko and try to communicate with the factory directly. I'm sure they'd like to get this stuff out of their way as well. I'm not exactly sure the best way to pursue something like that though. I'm all for getting together as buyers and organizing more, I just don't know how effective it is to go after Oko anymore.
Post by: shansoft on Sat, 07 January 2023, 21:04:20
Post by: chillchuck on Sun, 08 January 2023, 11:23:15
Post by: Bunn3y on Tue, 10 January 2023, 03:45:38
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Tue, 10 January 2023, 12:56:12
Any followups on the current situation for the GB?
Still silence since November 7th, 2022.
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 12 January 2023, 09:19:37
Post by: Rob27shred on Thu, 12 January 2023, 09:38:42
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 12 January 2023, 13:14:59
This Rukia, Monoflex, & a few others I'm sure I'm missing, definitely sadge. I'm thinking it's time to move on from the old GB model (just send someone your money & pray the product shows) completely...
if it was that easy we would have moved on from it a long time ago, but i agree with you that it is a bad system
Post by: Bunn3y on Fri, 13 January 2023, 08:40:34
Post by: singabore on Fri, 13 January 2023, 15:08:14
Post by: hungtranm18 on Sun, 15 January 2023, 08:19:22
I've been working on trying to get in touch with the Geekboy team directly. Making some ground but nothing concrete so far.There is 1 lucky person in my country got his moon v2, he said his proxy got it from manu and he didn't have to pay an extra fee.
Post by: chillchuck on Sun, 15 January 2023, 13:08:58
I've been working on trying to get in touch with the Geekboy team directly. Making some ground but nothing concrete so far.There is 1 lucky person in my country got his moon v2, he said his proxy got it from manu and he didn't have to pay an extra fee.
Yea, it's been a little difficult to get access to wechat and QQ since they now require verification, and I'm CONUS, but I've gotten some contacts for people at Geekboy. Hoping I can get some info after the holiday is over. Kevin seems like he's trying to find a way to get all these out of their warehouse as well. It's encouraging that most people that have been able to communicate with the manu, have been able to get their board in hand though. If I do get in contact, I plan on getting a discord together to relay information and communicate a little easier with the rest of the buyers who still have hope haha.
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 17 January 2023, 15:47:12
I have direct contact with the manufacture used for the Moon TKL, and I debated for about a month or so whether or not I wanted to get involved with acting as an intermediary to get all the boards shipped out, as I have no clue how many boards are outstanding and the work involved. I originally participated as well, and purchased 2 Moons at GB through Oko, and also never received the boards. I talked to the manufacturer and arranged to have my two boards, as well as a few keyboard friends' boards shipped out to me directly. We've already received the boards (total 7 boards) and the manufacturer is sitting on the completed kits, fully packed and ready to ship for quite some time.
I can arrange to have your boards shipped out from China direct to your country at my negotiated DHL rate. Any additional Duties/taxes will be payable by the receiver as boards are sent "DAP", meaning duties and taxes unpaid. If you refuse to pay the duties/taxes and the board is returned to sender, then we will not assist with re-shipping your board until the return costs have been paid. Unfortunately shipping costs has gone up ~$30+ due to current emergency surcharges from Covid, and fuel surcharges spiking up 20%+ range due to the current war abroad.
Shipping will have to start around beginning of February, when the manufacturer returns from CNY.
If you would like me to assist in getting your boards delivered, please DM me on Geekhack with a picture of your PayPal transaction receipt showing contents ordered, and we will confirm and match it with the manufacture's list.
Include the following in your DM to save us time:
Full name:
Address:
City:
State/Province:
Postal/Zip Code:
Country:
Phone number:
PayPal Email:
Whether you'd like to send PayPal F&F or via PayPal invoice:
Approx quotes for 1 board (subject to change as fuel surcharges change monthly): via PayPal F&F or PayPal invoice (4% surcharge applies)
CA - ~$106 USD (I can also accept e-transfers in CAD if preferred)
USA - ~$111 USD. 2x boards ~$168USD.
DE - ~$112 USD
UK - ~$122 USD
AU - ~$111 USD
JP - ~$92 USD
UAE - ~$122 USD
We will not by liable if the shipment is damaged or lost in transit, and are solely acting as an intermediary out of goodwill.
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Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 17 January 2023, 19:14:37
Post by: kiyoboard on Tue, 17 January 2023, 19:50:31
Hello all remaining Moon TKL GB members:
I have direct contact with the manufacture used for the Moon TKL, and I debated for about a month or so whether or not I wanted to get involved with acting as an intermediary to get all the boards shipped out, as I have no clue how many boards are outstanding and the work involved. I originally participated as well, and purchased 2 Moons at GB through Oko, and also never received the boards. I talked to the manufacturer and arranged to have my two boards, as well as a few keyboard friends' boards shipped out to me directly. We've already received the boards (total 7 boards) and the manufacturer is sitting on the completed kits, fully packed and ready to ship for quite some time.
I can arrange to have your boards shipped out from China direct to your country at my negotiated DHL rate. Any additional Duties/taxes will be payable by the receiver as boards are sent "DAP", meaning duties and taxes unpaid. If you refuse to pay the duties/taxes and the board is returned to sender, then we will not assist with re-shipping your board until the return costs have been paid. Unfortunately shipping costs has gone up ~$30+ due to current emergency surcharges from Covid, and fuel surcharges spiking up 20%+ range due to the current war abroad.
Shipping will have to start around beginning of February, when the manufacturer returns from CNY.
If you would like me to assist in getting your boards delivered, please DM me on Geekhack with a picture of your PayPal transaction receipt showing contents ordered, and we will confirm and match it with the manufacture's list.
Include the following in your DM to save us time:
Full name:
Address:
City:
State/Province:
Postal/Zip Code:
Country:
Phone number:
PayPal Email:
Whether you'd like to send PayPal F&F or via PayPal invoice:
Approx quotes for 1 board (subject to change as fuel surcharges change monthly): via PayPal F&F or PayPal invoice (4% surcharge applies)
CA - ~$106 USD (I can also accept e-transfers in CAD if preferred)
USA - ~$111 USD. 2x boards ~$168USD.
DE - ~$112 USD
UK - ~$122 USD
AU - ~$111 USD
JP - ~$92 USD
UAE - ~$122 USD
We will not by liable if the shipment is damaged or lost in transit, and are solely acting as an intermediary out of goodwill.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704561903787180112/1065014500257959966/20221114_223721.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704561903787180112/1065014500597715057/20221114_202521.jpg)
Will wait a few days to collect a few DM's before sending out invoices for shipping cost. Please only one DM thread per person. Thank you.
Thanks for doing this. DMd you my information.
Post by: BSGalaxy on Tue, 17 January 2023, 20:01:39
Post by: lecorsair on Tue, 17 January 2023, 21:05:30
If this pans out I am buying a fat stack of Pearlios to support this man lmfaoooo
Same same...
Post by: dangboy on Tue, 17 January 2023, 23:06:41
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Wed, 18 January 2023, 11:31:33
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 18 January 2023, 17:56:58
Hello all remaining Moon TKL GB members:
I have direct contact with the manufacture used for the Moon TKL, and I debated for about a month or so whether or not I wanted to get involved with acting as an intermediary to get all the boards shipped out, as I have no clue how many boards are outstanding and the work involved. I originally participated as well, and purchased 2 Moons at GB through Oko, and also never received the boards. I talked to the manufacturer and arranged to have my two boards, as well as a few keyboard friends' boards shipped out to me directly. We've already received the boards (total 7 boards) and the manufacturer is sitting on the completed kits, fully packed and ready to ship for quite some time.
I can arrange to have your boards shipped out from China direct to your country at my negotiated DHL rate. Any additional Duties/taxes will be payable by the receiver as boards are sent "DAP", meaning duties and taxes unpaid. If you refuse to pay the duties/taxes and the board is returned to sender, then we will not assist with re-shipping your board until the return costs have been paid. Unfortunately shipping costs has gone up ~$30+ due to current emergency surcharges from Covid, and fuel surcharges spiking up 20%+ range due to the current war abroad.
Shipping will have to start around beginning of February, when the manufacturer returns from CNY.
If you would like me to assist in getting your boards delivered, please DM me on Geekhack with a picture of your PayPal transaction receipt showing contents ordered, and we will confirm and match it with the manufacture's list.
Include the following in your DM to save us time:
Full name:
Address:
City:
State/Province:
Postal/Zip Code:
Country:
Phone number:
PayPal Email:
Whether you'd like to send PayPal F&F or via PayPal invoice:
Approx quotes for 1 board (subject to change as fuel surcharges change monthly): via PayPal F&F or PayPal invoice (4% surcharge applies)
CA - ~$106 USD (I can also accept e-transfers in CAD if preferred)
USA - ~$111 USD. 2x boards ~$168USD.
DE - ~$112 USD
UK - ~$122 USD
AU - ~$111 USD
JP - ~$92 USD
UAE - ~$122 USD
We will not by liable if the shipment is damaged or lost in transit, and are solely acting as an intermediary out of goodwill.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704561903787180112/1065014500257959966/20221114_223721.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704561903787180112/1065014500597715057/20221114_202521.jpg)
Will wait a few days to collect a few DM's before sending out invoices for shipping cost. Please only one DM thread per person. Thank you.
Thanks for coming in clutch Zeal! I’ll be sending you a DM with my info right now!
Post by: shansoft on Wed, 18 January 2023, 23:58:40
Hello all remaining Moon TKL GB members:
Thanks Zeal! Just sent you a DM! :D
Post by: Tekniqs on Thu, 19 January 2023, 01:21:32
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 19 January 2023, 09:15:36
If this pans out I am buying a fat stack of Pearlios to support this man lmfaoooo
fwiw i bought some when they came out and they are incredibly pogged
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 19 January 2023, 13:11:39
Save a copy of each personal message in my sent items by default.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;area=pmprefs
Will send out invoices / instructions when we reach closer to February, when DHL publishes their new fuel surcharge rates.
The manufacturer for the moon says they're returning around Feb 6.
Post by: chillchuck on Thu, 19 January 2023, 13:23:46
Post by: Capsy on Fri, 20 January 2023, 02:00:23
Hello all remaining Moon TKL GB members:
I have direct contact with the manufacture used for the Moon TKL, and I debated for about a month or so whether or not I wanted to get involved with acting as an intermediary to get all the boards shipped out, as I have no clue how many boards are outstanding and the work involved. I originally participated as well, and purchased 2 Moons at GB through Oko, and also never received the boards. I talked to the manufacturer and arranged to have my two boards, as well as a few keyboard friends' boards shipped out to me directly. We've already received the boards (total 7 boards) and the manufacturer is sitting on the completed kits, fully packed and ready to ship for quite some time.
I can arrange to have your boards shipped out from China direct to your country at my negotiated DHL rate. Any additional Duties/taxes will be payable by the receiver as boards are sent "DAP", meaning duties and taxes unpaid. If you refuse to pay the duties/taxes and the board is returned to sender, then we will not assist with re-shipping your board until the return costs have been paid. Unfortunately shipping costs has gone up ~$30+ due to current emergency surcharges from Covid, and fuel surcharges spiking up 20%+ range due to the current war abroad.
Shipping will have to start around beginning of February, when the manufacturer returns from CNY.
If you would like me to assist in getting your boards delivered, please DM me on Geekhack with a picture of your PayPal transaction receipt showing contents ordered, and we will confirm and match it with the manufacture's list.
Include the following in your DM to save us time:
Full name:
Address:
City:
State/Province:
Postal/Zip Code:
Country:
Phone number:
PayPal Email:
Whether you'd like to send PayPal F&F or via PayPal invoice:
Approx quotes for 1 board (subject to change as fuel surcharges change monthly): via PayPal F&F or PayPal invoice (4% surcharge applies)
CA - ~$106 USD (I can also accept e-transfers in CAD if preferred)
USA - ~$111 USD. 2x boards ~$168USD.
DE - ~$112 USD
UK - ~$122 USD
AU - ~$111 USD
JP - ~$92 USD
UAE - ~$122 USD
We will not by liable if the shipment is damaged or lost in transit, and are solely acting as an intermediary out of goodwill.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704561903787180112/1065014500257959966/20221114_223721.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704561903787180112/1065014500597715057/20221114_202521.jpg)
Will wait a few days to collect a few DM's before sending out invoices for shipping cost. Please only one DM thread per person. Thank you.
Thanks for this. Sent you a DM.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 20 January 2023, 09:10:51
Post by: Sushiimi on Fri, 20 January 2023, 11:57:55
Hello all remaining Moon TKL GB members:
I have direct contact with the manufacture used for the Moon TKL, and I debated for about a month or so whether or not I wanted to get involved with acting as an intermediary to get all the boards shipped out, as I have no clue how many boards are outstanding and the work involved. I originally participated as well, and purchased 2 Moons at GB through Oko, and also never received the boards. I talked to the manufacturer and arranged to have my two boards, as well as a few keyboard friends' boards shipped out to me directly. We've already received the boards (total 7 boards) and the manufacturer is sitting on the completed kits, fully packed and ready to ship for quite some time.
I can arrange to have your boards shipped out from China direct to your country at my negotiated DHL rate. Any additional Duties/taxes will be payable by the receiver as boards are sent "DAP", meaning duties and taxes unpaid. If you refuse to pay the duties/taxes and the board is returned to sender, then we will not assist with re-shipping your board until the return costs have been paid. Unfortunately shipping costs has gone up ~$30+ due to current emergency surcharges from Covid, and fuel surcharges spiking up 20%+ range due to the current war abroad.
Shipping will have to start around beginning of February, when the manufacturer returns from CNY.
If you would like me to assist in getting your boards delivered, please DM me on Geekhack with a picture of your PayPal transaction receipt showing contents ordered, and we will confirm and match it with the manufacture's list.
Include the following in your DM to save us time:
Full name:
Address:
City:
State/Province:
Postal/Zip Code:
Country:
Phone number:
PayPal Email:
Whether you'd like to send PayPal F&F or via PayPal invoice:
Approx quotes for 1 board (subject to change as fuel surcharges change monthly): via PayPal F&F or PayPal invoice (4% surcharge applies)
CA - ~$106 USD (I can also accept e-transfers in CAD if preferred)
USA - ~$111 USD. 2x boards ~$168USD.
DE - ~$112 USD
UK - ~$122 USD
AU - ~$111 USD
JP - ~$92 USD
UAE - ~$122 USD
We will not by liable if the shipment is damaged or lost in transit, and are solely acting as an intermediary out of goodwill.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704561903787180112/1065014500257959966/20221114_223721.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704561903787180112/1065014500597715057/20221114_202521.jpg)
Will wait a few days to collect a few DM's before sending out invoices for shipping cost. Please only one DM thread per person. Thank you.
Sent you a DM as well, thanks a ton for helping everyone out with this!
Post by: fireworm on Fri, 20 January 2023, 12:36:21
Hello all remaining Moon TKL GB members:
Sent you a DM, Zeal.
If they’re all finished, I really don’t understand why they weren’t shipped out
No one except oko knows; I have my own speculations, but eh. Not worth sharing.
Post by: hungtranm18 on Fri, 20 January 2023, 19:47:52
Hello all remaining Moon TKL GB members:
Thanks Zeal! Just sent you a DM!
Post by: defzone on Fri, 20 January 2023, 20:12:55
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Post by: lecorsair on Sun, 22 January 2023, 13:42:54
may i suggest, in these trying times, Clickiez switches
Not a participant in this Moon gb but wanted to support Zeal's wonderful gesture - just bought some Zilents for my next build. :thumb:
Post by: defzone on Sun, 22 January 2023, 19:59:44
Post by: SoloMilo on Mon, 23 January 2023, 08:26:14
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Mon, 23 January 2023, 08:42:04
Wish I had hopped on this one, eyes peeled for your next projects :eek:
Sir, this GB was abandoned by the runner and is just now being saved by Zeal. Read the room before you spam posts to get your count up.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 23 January 2023, 09:09:36
Wish I had hopped on this one, eyes peeled for your next projects :eek:
I doubt Oko will run another GB. If she does, I doubt she will have any participants.
Post by: Hern on Mon, 23 January 2023, 13:51:14
Keep the DM's coming. A lot of new GH members sending duplicate DMs due to not checking "save a copy of each PM" under settings.
Save a copy of each personal message in my sent items by default.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;area=pmprefs
Will send out invoices / instructions when we reach closer to February, when DHL publishes their new fuel surcharge rates.
The manufacturer for the moon says they're returning around Feb 6.
I was one that def did duplicate DM's due to not saving copy of PM. Sorry about that! Look forward to getting invoice or instructions for this in February!
Seems this is def the final solution we all needed. Def going to grab some Zealios for the occassion - What a champ!
Post by: sleep.deprxved on Tue, 24 January 2023, 11:01:24
Post by: ricesteam on Tue, 24 January 2023, 12:59:13
Post by: Demagine on Sun, 29 January 2023, 11:03:56
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 29 January 2023, 19:08:05
Post by: commandog on Thu, 02 February 2023, 10:57:14
Post by: defzone on Tue, 07 February 2023, 22:33:43
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Post by: Rew23 on Tue, 07 February 2023, 22:50:33
Post by: chillchuck on Tue, 07 February 2023, 23:03:47
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 08 February 2023, 13:42:53
Post by: Showyoright on Wed, 08 February 2023, 18:21:47
Anyone from the US receive an invoice? I have sent a message but haven’t received a response or invoice
I'm in the US and haven't received an invoice yet either.
Post by: chillchuck on Wed, 08 February 2023, 18:29:05
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 09 February 2023, 18:42:53
Manufacturer has told us that Oko held back 40% of the payment and agreed to remit the remainder once they've shipped out Chinese & Singapore orders. Manufacturer finished shipping those, but Oko has not remitted payment yet. There is some pushback from the boss about releasing the remaining boards, so we're actively talking to them to see if we can get some sort of movement. Sorry for the wait, we only invoiced a few customers for shipping and won't be invoicing more til we can confirm the boards will be released.
Post by: shansoft on Fri, 10 February 2023, 00:53:45
Update on the remaining Moon TKLs:
Manufacturer has told us that Oko held back 40% of the payment and agreed to remit the remainder once they've shipped out Chinese & Singapore orders. Manufacturer finished shipping those, but Oko has not remitted payment yet. There is some pushback from the boss about releasing the remaining boards, so we're actively talking to them to see if we can get some sort of movement. Sorry for the wait, we only invoiced a few customers for shipping and won't be invoicing more til we can confirm the boards will be released.
Seems like Oko took the money and disappear isn't too far off to describe this situation....
So if each board is 650, and there are 200 of it, which I am sure the total number is less than that....
40% of 200 * 650 is 52k USD.... Honestly that not that much money to run off with....
Perhaps there are other reason?
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Fri, 10 February 2023, 08:54:45
Update on the remaining Moon TKLs:
Manufacturer has told us that Oko held back 40% of the payment and agreed to remit the remainder once they've shipped out Chinese & Singapore orders. Manufacturer finished shipping those, but Oko has not remitted payment yet. There is some pushback from the boss about releasing the remaining boards, so we're actively talking to them to see if we can get some sort of movement. Sorry for the wait, we only invoiced a few customers for shipping and won't be invoicing more til we can confirm the boards will be released.
Seems like Oko took the money and disappear isn't too far off to describe this situation....
So if each board is 650, and there are 200 of it, which I am sure the total number is less than that....
40% of 200 * 650 is 52k USD.... Honestly that not that much money to run off with....
Perhaps there are other reason?
Gotta remember she's SG based so the conversion makes it a bit better for her. Seems like she went with fulfilling SG and China first as that made up 60% of the orders. Really feels bad for the rest of us. Short of paying for the board twice, not sure there is much that we can do. Definitely won't be doing that. Thanks for trying, Zeal.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 10 February 2023, 10:55:54
Post by: DasGnome on Fri, 10 February 2023, 10:59:58
Update on the remaining Moon TKLs:
Manufacturer has told us that Oko held back 40% of the payment and agreed to remit the remainder once they've shipped out Chinese & Singapore orders. Manufacturer finished shipping those, but Oko has not remitted payment yet. There is some pushback from the boss about releasing the remaining boards, so we're actively talking to them to see if we can get some sort of movement. Sorry for the wait, we only invoiced a few customers for shipping and won't be invoicing more til we can confirm the boards will be released.
As insanely frustrating as this GB has been, it's nice to get actual updates...Thanks, Zeal.
Post by: chillchuck on Fri, 10 February 2023, 11:07:19
I don’t understand what that has to do with the participants. It was the GB runner that ran off, not participants. It doesn’t make sense to hold our boards hostage that we PAID for. Manu should figure out what they should do with OKO.
The Manu doesn't have all of the money they are owed. We technically haven't paid for the boards as it stands right now. We gave our money to Oko with an understanding that she would pay them. She paid partially at the beginning and was supposed to pay the full amount after the completion of manufacturing. If they were to send out all of the boards, they would essentially be taking on the loss and giving away the only tangible thing that they could use to recoup their money with.
The only person to blame for this situation is Oko.
I really appreciate you making the effort Zeal, whatever comes of it.
Post by: fireworm on Fri, 10 February 2023, 13:05:32
Possible other situation is that Oko ran out of money and literally could not pay the 40%, so she said 'Welp. Mistakes were made.'
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 10 February 2023, 20:40:29
I don’t understand what that has to do with the participants. It was the GB runner that ran off, not participants. It doesn’t make sense to hold our boards hostage that we PAID for. Manu should figure out what they should do with OKO.
The Manu doesn't have all of the money they are owed. We technically haven't paid for the boards as it stands right now. We gave our money to Oko with an understanding that she would pay them. She paid partially at the beginning and was supposed to pay the full amount after the completion of manufacturing. If they were to send out all of the boards, they would essentially be taking on the loss and giving away the only tangible thing that they could use to recoup their money with.
The only person to blame for this situation is Oko.
I really appreciate you making the effort Zeal, whatever comes of it.
Amazing. Really amazing. And yes, thank you Zeal for being a godsend in this situation.
Post by: hungtranm18 on Sun, 12 February 2023, 02:33:36
Post by: MajorKoos on Sun, 12 February 2023, 13:20:34
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 12 February 2023, 13:28:29
Post by: Hern on Mon, 13 February 2023, 15:55:16
They want another 200$ a board so I can get mine, I'm game. I'm biased (r1 was the very first custom I ever held) but I still like em years later.
At this point I wouldn't mind paying around that much too if that is what is required here...better than having paid around $750 a few years back for nothing.
Post by: dangboy on Wed, 15 February 2023, 14:13:13
Post by: floatingskull on Thu, 16 February 2023, 23:07:33
They want another 200$ a board so I can get mine, I'm game. I'm biased (r1 was the very first custom I ever held) but I still like em years later.
At this point I wouldn't mind paying around that much too if that is what is required here...better than having paid around $750 a few years back for nothing.
I agree. I would imagine the manufacturer would be willing to settle for a lesser amount per board simply to get them out of their warehouse. If that number were reasonable, I'd do it. Thank you Zeal for all that you've done to try to find a solution. It is nice to have a better idea of what's going on.
Post by: TennisBall on Fri, 17 February 2023, 02:10:56
Post by: Silverion77 on Wed, 22 February 2023, 11:36:23
Subbing
Post by: Dennyroxsox on Wed, 22 February 2023, 12:26:27
Post by: kiyoboard on Fri, 03 March 2023, 16:46:18
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 03 March 2023, 16:53:47
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 03 March 2023, 16:55:48
Despite our best efforts, the manufacturer has refused to communicate with us further and allow us to assist with getting out the remaining Moon TKL boards. We find it odd, since they originally were willing to help us get the kits out. The manufacturer claim someone in Europe is arranging to assist in fulfilling out the remaining boards, but did not provide a name. We've pushed and asked who/which vendor approached them, but did not receive a name or brand.
I have already refunded shipping in full for the limited participants that I've invoiced. Hopefully whoever is going to take over the fulfillment does come here and post, but I personally have my reservations.
Post by: Rew23 on Fri, 03 March 2023, 16:59:10
Post by: dangboy on Fri, 03 March 2023, 17:01:09
Post by: chillchuck on Fri, 03 March 2023, 17:07:16
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 03 March 2023, 19:34:42
Post by: Suavity on Sat, 04 March 2023, 02:58:36
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Sat, 04 March 2023, 11:25:40
Post by: Hern on Sat, 04 March 2023, 15:58:02
Back to all hope being lost and never getting this board :(
Post by: defzone on Thu, 16 March 2023, 10:39:44
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Post by: dangboy on Thu, 16 March 2023, 11:13:20
Post by: defzone on Thu, 16 March 2023, 11:16:13
I guess just keep a lookout on any EU vendors selling in stock Moon TKLs lolWe've already paid the boards.
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Post by: dangboy on Fri, 17 March 2023, 11:14:12
We paid Oko for them, but she took the money. From the manu's point of view we didn't pay for squat.I guess just keep a lookout on any EU vendors selling in stock Moon TKLs lolWe've already paid the boards.
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Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 17 March 2023, 11:53:49
Post by: chillchuck on Fri, 17 March 2023, 12:03:29
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 17 March 2023, 13:13:10
If you don't mind me asking, how come you were able to get 2 of them? Did you use some proxies for part of your order?
Yes, paid for a proxy from Singapore after seeing that people from there were getting their boards but others werent. Got two, one with the wrong bottom. They're gorgeous, but probably not worth the 3800$ spent for 5 boards and proxying. I bought one spot from Chris of Prevail keys, wrote him to ask him to change the address but he never replied and denied I'd sent him anything publically, then admitted that he just didn't pay attention and hasnt responded when I asked for my money back. Other two the person followed through but no response.
Post by: defzone on Fri, 17 March 2023, 13:16:51
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Post by: eternalbuzz on Sat, 18 March 2023, 23:17:13
Maybe Jae-3soteric is trying his hand at saving the day? I believe he was in on the buy along with us.
This might be our last bastion of hope
Post by: Tyson on Thu, 23 March 2023, 13:46:09
Seems like manu is selling the boards we paid. I hope karma will get back to oko.
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Where are you getting this information from?
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Thu, 23 March 2023, 15:23:43
Seems like manu is selling the boards we paid. I hope karma will get back to oko.
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Where are you getting this information from?
Pretty sure they're extrapolating based on what Zeal said. Which is a very real possibility. We don't know who the EU person is or what their intentions are. Someone attempting to purchase the boards for resale is as believable (honestly more realistic) as a benevolent individual coming to save the Group Buy.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 23 March 2023, 15:58:33
My impression too, but happy to hear otherwise.
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 31 March 2023, 08:58:02
I tried to flash mine (somehow the flash button in QMK Toolbox was only clickable for a couple of seconds) with a hex file I created on QMK, which seems to have broken the PCB... I have tried resets, to no avail.
OG post also said it was VIA ready, but I cannot seem to find any VIA firmware and cannot seem to make it work in VIA. If anyone has had more success, I wouldn't mind a little help.
Again, sorry for posting here :(
Post by: chillchuck on Sun, 02 April 2023, 23:17:04
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/129ogn3/howling_at_the_moon_tkl_v2_group_buy/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/129ogn3/howling_at_the_moon_tkl_v2_group_buy/)
Post by: shansoft on Fri, 21 April 2023, 00:49:34
Bought 2 of these boards and just went down the toilet...
Post by: singabore on Fri, 21 April 2023, 11:43:04
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 21 April 2023, 14:12:46
Is there any way to get in contact with the manu?
I think we tried that and it was a fail. Not even our boy Zeal had a hard time getting the boards
Post by: soloplayer on Sat, 27 May 2023, 22:58:38
I feel sorry for asking this here, and really tried to find the info anywhere, but would anyone have the QMK file to flash the board or something to make it via compatible?
I tried to flash mine (somehow the flash button in QMK Toolbox was only clickable for a couple of seconds) with a hex file I created on QMK, which seems to have broken the PCB... I have tried resets, to no avail.
OG post also said it was VIA ready, but I cannot seem to find any VIA firmware and cannot seem to make it work in VIA. If anyone has had more success, I wouldn't mind a little help.
Again, sorry for posting here :(
me too. i really want to have a qmk and plate file for it
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 05 June 2023, 09:26:38
Post by: dangboy on Mon, 05 June 2023, 15:05:44
NE moon keyboards availSure, I'd be willing to sell you my spot!
Post by: singabore on Fri, 25 August 2023, 13:13:29
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 25 August 2023, 14:35:29
I feel sorry for asking this here, and really tried to find the info anywhere, but would anyone have the QMK file to flash the board or something to make it via compatible?
I tried to flash mine (somehow the flash button in QMK Toolbox was only clickable for a couple of seconds) with a hex file I created on QMK, which seems to have broken the PCB... I have tried resets, to no avail.
OG post also said it was VIA ready, but I cannot seem to find any VIA firmware and cannot seem to make it work in VIA. If anyone has had more success, I wouldn't mind a little help.
Again, sorry for posting here :(
me too. i really want to have a qmk and plate file for it
I replaced the OG PCB with a H87A.
Post by: shansoft on Tue, 29 August 2023, 01:21:28
guessing too late to pursue any sort of legal action?
If anyone want to start legal action, count me in and I'll chip in money for the lawyer. This is beyond ridiculous at this point.
Post by: MaxineCh on Fri, 01 September 2023, 12:19:23
Post by: singabore on Fri, 01 September 2023, 14:22:54
Post by: singabore on Fri, 29 September 2023, 10:05:19
Post by: shansoft on Sat, 30 September 2023, 14:30:53
no update i guess?
No update on that, and no massive amount of Moon TKL v2 that is circulating the r/mm as well. it seems a bit strange
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Mon, 04 December 2023, 15:45:57
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Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 05 December 2023, 02:00:24
Over a year. Never forget.
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Us Rukia Rd.2 victims stand in solidarity with you guys! :'(
Post by: shansoft on Tue, 05 December 2023, 16:40:04
Over a year. Never forget.
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Us Rukia Rd.2 victims stand in solidarity with you guys! :'(
I have paid for 2 board and multiple add-ons.... all down into toilet.... Hence if anyone can seek local authority in Singapore, I am totally down to support that.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 07 December 2023, 08:05:21
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 29 December 2023, 12:22:21
Oh well, pouring one out on NYE
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Fri, 29 December 2023, 12:24:42
Still sad to end 2023 with nothing to show for this one :'(I’ve tried to speak to the factory on this one as I have lost two personal boards here and it would be nice to try get them and pave a path for the community as well (or get them all and distribute them if I could) but despite a couple of early replies I’ve had nothing back for a long time (except offers to work on other “new” projects).
Oh well, pouring one out on NYE
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Post by: Tyson on Tue, 16 January 2024, 17:16:02
Still sad to end 2023 with nothing to show for this one :'(I’ve tried to speak to the factory on this one as I have lost two personal boards here and it would be nice to try get them and pave a path for the community as well (or get them all and distribute them if I could) but despite a couple of early replies I’ve had nothing back for a long time (except offers to work on other “new” projects).
Oh well, pouring one out on NYE
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Happy New Years Jae! Hope your able to hear back from them, I too have lost a few boards to ghosting manus and GB runners. This was one of the biggest ones I really wish I would have received!